Post by: Mephansteras on March 03, 2015, 01:01:59 pm
(http://img.ie/images/30zld.jpg) (http://img.ie/)
Like last time, we'll be going Classic for this, which should be tough but quite doable. I'm going to be doing Pseudo Ironman, which is to say I'm going to allow myself the option of rolling back to a previous save if I hit a point where I'm playing horribly and really should have quit a while ago. Happens when I get too hungry or tired to think. I'll try not to use it too often and we won't be doing that within a mission, so if I have to back out it'll force me to redo everything as a disincentive to use the option much.
Long War itself is...extensive. So extensive I'm not even going to bother trying to write up all the changes. Pretty much everything has been tweaked, expanded upon, etc. Just...go look at the wiki (http://ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Long_War) for it. Suffice to say that the LP is going to be rather different from a normal game of XCOM, even if the core of the game is the same.
As usual, you're welcome to sign up for soldiers, give me recommendations on what to do at a strategic level, and hopefully enjoy watching our troops splatter alien gore across the globe.
You may wish to work together to try and get a cohesive squad put together, but I'll work with whatever you guys give me. Due note that your squad will eventually need an officer, so one of you should plan on taking on that responsibility at some point (and therefore will not be MEC or Psionic). Squads start at 6 troops and can go up to 8.
Spoiler: Signup sheet (click to show/hide)
Long War Links
Soldier Classes (http://ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Soldiers_%28Long_War%29)
Weapons (http://ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Weapons_%28Long_War%29)
Equipment (http://ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Equipment_%28Long_War%29)
Base Stats
Credits: §244
Income: §344
Meld: 105
Engineers: 14
Scientists: 17
Hanger
F.O. - "Swordsman" Kruger - Stingrays - 0 Kills - Crazysheep
F.O. "Dasher" Al-Ayesh - 0 Kills - Tiruin
Spoiler: Barracks (click to show/hide)
Memorial
I'm collecting the customization options here so people can more easily decide how they want their people to look. This will probably grow slowly. Note that in Long War there is also the sleeveless version of each armor for the lighter versions. We can also give any class all of the options, so there is even more customization options.
Spoiler: Basic Armor (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Carapace Armor (click to show/hide)
Post by: Mephansteras on March 03, 2015, 01:06:00 pm
First up: Second Wave options.
Here is what I'm thinking so far:
(http://img.ie/images/2015/03/03/311f936d10cf3ba30eb4d5d732fcc2c6.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/2tU)
Training Roulette is also an option I'm happy playing with, although it does limit how much planning you can do for your soldier builds. Let me know if you'd like that one or any of the other options (http://ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Second_Wave_%28Long_War%29)
Commander's Choice is on so that I can give people the classes they want and so that I can remake our soldiers from the previous campaign a good bit easier. Can't change Country or Gender, but we can do everything else the same.
Next, starting Country. Unlike previous games, there are now Country bonuses in addition to overall Continent Bonuses. We only get the continent bonus once we've covered all of the council nations on that continent with satellites.
Here is the wiki page with all 36 possible bonuses (http://ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=The_Council_%28Long_War%29)
Let me know what you'd like.
Post by: birdy51 on March 03, 2015, 02:16:39 pm
Spoiler: Birdvig (click to show/hide)
Not sure on Second Wave stuff, but I shall place a vote for our base to be in Europe.
Post by: GiglameshDespair on March 03, 2015, 02:24:38 pm
UK - Their Finest Hour
Post by: tryrar on March 03, 2015, 02:26:25 pm
Rick "Fullshot" Marker
Gender:Male
Nationality:USA
Appearance:Caucasian with brown hair(and a random helmet)
Preferred Class:Sniper
Preferred weapon:Sniper Rifle
Preferred Equipment:SCOPE and nades(for emergencies)
Preferred Tactics:Parking in a good spot with plenty overwatch and putting huge holes in heads of aliens]Rick "Fullshot" Marker
Gender:Male
Nationality:USA
Appearance:Caucasian with brown hair(and a random helmet)
Preferred Class:Sniper
Preferred weapon:Sniper Rifle
Preferred Equipment:SCOPE and nades(for emergencies)
Preferred Tactics:Parking in a good spot with plenty overwatch and putting huge holes in heads of aliens
I'm not sure about aiming angles, but I support the others. I propose we set down in North America(specifically USA for the godly Special Warfare School)
Post by: RangerCado on March 03, 2015, 02:52:39 pm
Spoiler: Character! WEE! (click to show/hide)
As for country... knowing our struggle with the air game last time, I suggest Egypt: For the Sake of Glory.
My second pick would be UK: Their Finest Hour.
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on March 03, 2015, 02:57:05 pm
Since there's a pair of snipers right above me, I'll change my character.
Name: Urist Imiknorris
Gender: M
Nationality: Russian
Appearance: I volunteer for Skittle Squad (is eye-searingly bright cyan an option?). Make me look ridiculous, and give me a helmet.
Preferred class: Engineer
Preferred weapon: Shotguns!
Preferred equipment: Grenades! (the kill-things type, none of that sissy flashbang and smoke grenade crap)
Preferred tactics: Try to stay back and explode aliens until I run out of explode. Then rush in and start shooting.
Upgrade path: Sapper->HEAT Warheads->Will to Survive->Mayhem->Packmaster->Tandem Warheads
And a question that I can't find from the wiki: Which HEAT perk affects the Collateral Damage perk?
Post by: Toaster on March 03, 2015, 03:12:43 pm
Why Dynamic War? Are you tweaking the .ini value on that since it replaced NSLW?
Country? Too many good options, really. Probably something that boosts the air game or gives a starting building set.
Post by: Mephansteras on March 03, 2015, 03:29:26 pm
And a question that I can't find from the wiki: Which HEAT perk affects the Collateral Damage perk?
I'm...honestly not sure.
Why Dynamic War? Are you tweaking the .ini value on that since it replaced NSLW?
Partly I want to try it out, partly because I'm restarting in the middle of a good campaign and a shorter new campaign sounds nice. I could tweak the ini value if people don't want 50%, though.
Post by: Toaster on March 03, 2015, 03:30:41 pm
Post by: Rince Wind on March 03, 2015, 03:54:54 pm
I tried Long War with training roulette, because it was one of my favourite Vanilla options, but it was horrible (for me).
Name: Rince "Wizard" Wind (Rina if it is a girl)
Country: whatever
Class: Scout
Preferred Loadout: Shotgun, Flashbang, HE Grenade (or a stunner if needed)
Some bright color, bright green is nice, a basecap
Edit: I vote for Asia as the starting continent (and the one to cover in sats first), country...maybe Australia? Though 3 more steam vents sound really useful as well, even if you just use two but have a better chance of them not being far apart.
Post by: Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum on March 03, 2015, 05:03:40 pm
Also PTW.
Post by: Teneb on March 03, 2015, 05:12:03 pm
Gender: Male
Nationality: Any
Appearance: Any
Preferred class: MEC (Pathfinder)
Preferred weapon: MEC weapons
Preferred equipment: Flamethrower as secondary
Preferred tactics: Will always use the flamethrower when possible.
Post by: Mephansteras on March 03, 2015, 05:13:53 pm
Could I just have my old character ~rebuilt?
Of course!
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on March 03, 2015, 05:18:07 pm
Post by: Tiruin on March 03, 2015, 05:19:28 pm
I did not yet read the OP. :x
Name: Mister "Harlequin" CrowNo fist of fury?
Gender: Male
Nationality: Any
Appearance: Any
Preferred class: MEC (Pathfinder)
Preferred weapon: MEC weapons
Preferred equipment: Flamethrower as secondary
Preferred tactics: Will always use the flamethrower when possible.
@tryrar: Your HTML link is broken :P
I would vote a YES for Training Roulette.
Asia is my vote.
Also, aw. The starting country does not include the Philippines...unlike the unmodded XCOM (judging from wiki).
>.>
Post by: RAM on March 03, 2015, 05:19:49 pm
And I would like the same character.
Post by: Teneb on March 03, 2015, 05:24:41 pm
Flamethrower. All the way.Name: Mister "Harlequin" CrowNo fist of fury?
Gender: Male
Nationality: Any
Appearance: Any
Preferred class: MEC (Pathfinder)
Preferred weapon: MEC weapons
Preferred equipment: Flamethrower as secondary
Preferred tactics: Will always use the flamethrower when possible.
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on March 03, 2015, 05:51:39 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 03, 2015, 05:54:03 pm
Also, aw. The starting country does not include the Philippines...unlike the unmodded XCOM (judging from wiki).
>.>
The starting countries only includes Council Nations, which the Philippines has never been one of. The starting country is basically just which one you get a satellite over first, AND it gives a nifty bonus (which I liked to the wiki page for). Lots of options, there, even multiple for the same country in a lot of cases.
Post by: IronyOwl on March 03, 2015, 05:57:14 pm
Quote from: Australia
All soldiers receive +5 ability points for stat rolls upon recruitment.Oooooh, let's go here!
Post by: Tiruin on March 03, 2015, 05:59:13 pm
I misunderstood a lot there. Oops. :-X Should've listened to that one voice wondering why the countries match satellite country-targets there.Also, aw. The starting country does not include the Philippines...unlike the unmodded XCOM (judging from wiki).
>.>
The starting countries only includes Council Nations, which the Philippines has never been one of. The starting country is basically just which one you get a satellite over first, AND it gives a nifty bonus (which I liked to the wiki page for). Lots of options, there, even multiple for the same country in a lot of cases.
I just really hope the expanded nationalities take in a ton of choices. :) Looking into the LW files--it
...This. Australia is a nice place forQuote from: AustraliaAll soldiers receive +5 ability points for stat rolls upon recruitment.Oooooh, let's go here!
Post by: Quartz_Mace on March 03, 2015, 06:12:46 pm
Gender: Any
Nationality (in order of preference): France, Canada, Belgium, 'Murica
Appearance: Whatever for now
Preferred Class: Infantry
Preferred weapon: Assault rifles. Later on, heavy rifles would be preferred if my character has good enough accuracy.
Preferred equipment: Scope and grenade (flash bang, AP, HE, chem, ghost, or whatever else fits the mission)
Post by: Sheb on March 03, 2015, 06:18:04 pm
Gender: Male
Nationality: Belgian/German
Appearance: Uh, I don't care.
Preferred class: Assault
Preferred weapon: Pistol/Shotgun
Preferred equipment: Flashbang/Armor
Preferred tactics: Run and Flank
Post by: Mephansteras on March 03, 2015, 07:07:45 pm
North America - 1
USA - Special Warfare School 1
South America
Europe - 3
UK - Their Finest Hour 1 (.5)
Russia - Sukhoi Company 1
Africa - 2
Egypt - For the Sake of Glory 1
Nigeria - ? 1
Asia - 3
Australia - 3
Post by: Quartz_Mace on March 03, 2015, 07:10:53 pm
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on March 03, 2015, 07:15:39 pm
Post by: Tiruin on March 03, 2015, 07:16:42 pm
I'll switch my vote to U.K. AP might be more useful than increased accuracy.Wouldn't a permanent stat-wide boost to everyone be better given that we can research most of the bonuses in the starting countries that way?
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on March 03, 2015, 07:21:56 pm
Quote from: changelog
Phoenix Cannon is back (replacing Phoenix Coilgun). It is available at Alien Materials and is probably a middling upgrade to the missiles -- it has base laser cannon armor piercing (enough to do full damage to Raiders) and slightly higher damage per second than Avalanche, and all the shots should mean it should provide more consistent results than the missiles.
Added foundry project "Phoenix Coilguns" that improves all existing Phoenix Cannon to Phoenix Coilgun stats and is available after researching Gauss Weapons.
Post by: GiglameshDespair on March 03, 2015, 07:51:43 pm
5 stat points are not a lot, to be honest. More than made up for with the extra XP from more downed UFOs.
Post by: RAM on March 03, 2015, 08:00:27 pm
Post by: Darkening Kaos on March 03, 2015, 08:53:11 pm
Could I just have my old character ~rebuilt?
Also PTW.
Same for my guy/gal. Must be Aussie.
Post by: Tiruin on March 03, 2015, 08:55:55 pm
c'mon, go nigeria, how can you say no to running speed!Its a VERY hard comparison (for me anyway) :I
General +5 to stats given the lacking editing of personnel...or a PERMANENT +1 to MOVE for EVERYONE.
Sorry about caps.
...I am very much leaning on the bonus to move given how nightmarish it was, having slow operatives on an Impossible LW game.
The Chryssalids will tear you apart...faster!
but GAH. Hard decisions. :-\
Post by: crazysheep on March 03, 2015, 09:22:20 pm
How about we go with Japan and Ghost in the
If we do, may I request to take one of the SHIVs that we get from this bonus:
Name: "Search()" Thunder-1 (in other words, just tack on the nickname and keep the original SHIV designation)
Gender: AI
Nationality: XCOM
Appearance: Default, unless there are new customisation options.
Preferred class: SHIV
Preferred weapon: Superheavy Plasma, of course, but the heaviest SHIV weapons you've researched.
Preferred equipment: Battle Computer + Holotargeter + Adaptive Tracking Pod
Preferred tactics: Suppress aliens and blood traitors, overwatch when situation calls for it. Not the designated tank.
Post by: Jim Groovester on March 03, 2015, 11:19:18 pm
I don't care about the build. Just pick for me.
Post by: Tiruin on March 04, 2015, 02:18:17 am
I shallI did consider that as a viable optionbe an asssuggest something out of left wing just to see what people think:
How about we go with Japan and Ghost in theShellMachine?
Sign me up as myself again.Meph! Can Jim be a mech which punches aliens and acts like a Guardian, able to take many blows like they were nothing? :D
I don't care about the build. Just pick for me.
Post by: Beacon80 on March 04, 2015, 02:20:16 am
Post by: crazysheep on March 04, 2015, 02:34:57 am
I did consider that as a viable optionEh, fair point. Although I find SHIVs to be rather handy early on.due to the reference it had to many very nice thingsbut then the greater utility would always come firstbefore the lesser, yet more fashionable idea.
Post by: RedKing on March 04, 2015, 09:54:37 am
Post by: Mephansteras on March 04, 2015, 10:24:53 am
I'll join. No real preference on class.
Character name and appearance?
Post by: RAM on March 04, 2015, 04:05:32 pm
Duuuuuuude, don't take the free robots, they be useless endgame. Think of the endgame man!
Post by: Toaster on March 04, 2015, 04:48:20 pm
That said, unless you're using the SHIVs *solely* as a plasma sponge, I think you'd be better off with building the Japan bonus supersoldier into a debuff machine and letting rookies mooch off kills than taking SHIVs who are more like space fillers that don't get promotions.
I wouldn't take either one for this campaign, anyway.
Post by: Atomic Emu on March 04, 2015, 05:54:43 pm
Gender: Male
Nationality: Czech
Appearance: Something like this (http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/531761112939265440/5A92B07A5C3CFE707E1BFB5D70DD75B02CD84528/)
Preferred class: Scout
Preferred weapon: Carbine
Preferred equipment: Flashbang + Smoke
Preferred tactics: Aggressive close-mid range flanking, using the grenades for protection
Feel free to change anything as necessary.
Post by: Mephansteras on March 04, 2015, 06:22:32 pm
Post by: crazysheep on March 04, 2015, 07:19:35 pm
The theory is that a stronger start will give you an initial advantage that propels you into a stronger endgame.Now I wonder if there's any scope to mod SHIVs to gain XP and promotions, lol.
That said, unless you're using the SHIVs *solely* as a plasma sponge, I think you'd be better off with building the Japan bonus supersoldier into a debuff machine and letting rookies mooch off kills than taking SHIVs who are more like space fillers that don't get promotions.
But oh well. They'd be too strong if that was the case, and plasma sponge is already their designated callsign.
Post by: Quartz_Mace on March 04, 2015, 08:33:05 pm
If you pursue the right research and engineering, they can be equipped to improve their stats and provide new abilities. Although MECs will outstrip then quickly in all those fields.The theory is that a stronger start will give you an initial advantage that propels you into a stronger endgame.Now I wonder if there's any scope to mod SHIVs to gain XP and promotions, lol.
That said, unless you're using the SHIVs *solely* as a plasma sponge, I think you'd be better off with building the Japan bonus supersoldier into a debuff machine and letting rookies mooch off kills than taking SHIVs who are more like space fillers that don't get promotions.
But oh well. They'd be too strong if that was the case, and plasma sponge is already their designated callsign.
However, SHIVs cannot be mind controlled, while much more deadly MECs can. Worth a bit of consideration.
Post by: RAM on March 05, 2015, 12:16:44 am
Post by: mainiac on March 05, 2015, 12:26:02 am
Amy Wong
Gender:Female
Nationality:USA
Appearance:Wears a camo style helmet at all times
Preferred Class:Scout
Preferred weapon: Some sort of assault rifle
Preferred Equipment: Motion sensors, motion sensors, motion sensors
Preferred Tactics: Use motion sensors
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on March 05, 2015, 12:26:12 am
Post by: Mephansteras on March 05, 2015, 01:33:38 am
Here is what we have so far.
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(http://img.ie/images/2015/03/05/d3c0eb1a41aed733153fd6db60c14a1b.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/2vh)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/03/05/55828b090bff608b6ee3d755d6aeccbb.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/2vl)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/03/05/708e3a5bfd95aaa7eccf121b3875d4ef.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/2vo)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/03/05/9ab30d3f581b13c7cb50505d07626593.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/2vI)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/03/05/317d6f694a943ceea23c8620791f90fe.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/2ve)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/03/05/9d59903b0d596a92b0b066df582820c5.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/2vN)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/03/05/b78b73c533d47fae87f2cbe9ed1e0332.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/2vf)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/03/05/66e4e19b0bd5a50b49450c7a14361fe2.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/2vt)
And here is what we have in the Barracks right now
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
@Sheb: No male Germans or Belgians. See anyone you want on the roster?
@RAM: Got a preference on soldier? Wasn't able to remake her as she was, so...
@Tiruin: No Filipino soldiers this time, and no British girls. See someone else you'd like to claim?
@i2amroy: No male Egyptians, see someone else you want?
@Jim Groovester: Wasn't able to remake quite the same person. Preference on which soldier to take now?
@Burnt Pies: Wasn't able to remake quite the same person. Preference on which soldier to take now?
@Nidilap: We have an Irish guy, but he's not really well statted for an Assault. What would you like to do?
@Rince Wind: See someone you'd like?
@Urist Imiknorris: No male Russians. See someone else you'd like?
@Deathsword: See someone you'd like?
@Beacon80: See someone you'd like?
@RangerCado: Shortage of appropriate females for those countries. See someone else you'd like?
Everyone else...I'm out of time, so I'll try to get back to this tomorrow.
Post by: Darkening Kaos on March 05, 2015, 03:36:00 am
Corporal; Shredder Ammo
Sergeant; Will to Survive This seems to have changed since 14
Tech Sergeant; Danger Zone.
Other decisions pending.
Post by: Rince Wind on March 05, 2015, 08:10:25 am
Post by: birdy51 on March 05, 2015, 08:37:25 am
Post by: Sheb on March 05, 2015, 09:41:11 am
Post by: Teneb on March 05, 2015, 09:43:17 am
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M Private Iran Medium High 4 Medium High AliveIf you don't mind.
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on March 05, 2015, 09:52:33 am
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M Private UK Medium Medium 4 Very High Medium Alive
Post by: Mephansteras on March 05, 2015, 10:12:45 am
I'll take the female German private with very high mobility then, gotta get close to use that shotgun!
Actually, I believe one of the German Privates became Gisselle, due to a lack of male Germans for Krauss. Regardless, the return of Gisselle pleases me.
Ah, yes, I seem to have missed Gisselle is the roster updates. Regardless, she's not the one Rince Wind wants, so it should all be good.
Post by: birdy51 on March 05, 2015, 11:13:34 am
Post by: Rince Wind on March 05, 2015, 12:22:11 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 05, 2015, 12:32:09 pm
Post by: RangerCado on March 05, 2015, 01:43:38 pm
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F Private Germany High Medium 4 High Low Alive
Post by: Mephansteras on March 05, 2015, 01:47:47 pm
This should be fine Meph.QuoteF Private Germany High Medium 4 High Low Alive
Sorry, that one is actually Giselle Krauss, I forgot to update the roster with her. Both German girls are now claimed, I'm afraid.
Anyone else look good to you?
Post by: Culise on March 05, 2015, 02:21:40 pm
Code: [Select]
F Specialist China High Medium 4 Low LowAlmost asking for a sniper or support class. Lisa Chien, if you please. ^_^Name: Lisa "Wildshot" Chien
Gender: Female
Nationality: China
Appearance: Black hair in a ponytail. Whichever armor decs you prefer.
Preferred class: Gunner (since we have a couple snipers already)
Preferred weapon: LMG (but feel free to switch to a SAW for missions where move/fire ability and general mobility are important, like Bomb Disposal)
Preferred equipment: Aim/Crit booster + Battle Scanner
Preferred tactics: Hang back, providing battlefield support
Post by: RAM on March 05, 2015, 02:26:33 pm
F Private Nigeria High High 4 Low Medium Alive
One of these two please. Probably the Nigerian, to make up for us getting the wrong country... Also my previous character had high starting aim...
Post by: i2amroy on March 05, 2015, 03:42:46 pm
Kinda late, but unless they've changed it from b14 I'm almost 100% sure it's HEAT Ammo.And a question that I can't find from the wiki: Which HEAT perk affects the Collateral Damage perk?I'm...honestly not sure.
@i2amroy: No male Egyptians, see someone else you want?What, you mean I have to come up with some new horribly cliched soldier?!? :P
I'll take:
F Private Ireland Medium Medium 5 Low High Alive
Will post the exact name/look combination later today when I get a chance to mess around in the character editor.
Post by: RangerCado on March 05, 2015, 04:05:25 pm
Uh… I guess i'll go all average stats and hope for more accuracy and mobility then.
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F Private Taiwan Medium Medium 4 Medium Medium Alive
Post by: Jim Groovester on March 05, 2015, 08:27:07 pm
@Jim Groovester: Wasn't able to remake quite the same person. Preference on which soldier to take now?
Eh just give me any old dude then and then I'll see what I can make from their stats.
Post by: i2amroy on March 05, 2015, 09:59:07 pm
Name: Shamrock Ádhúil (Note, you need to type the accent as the accented character [no auto-replace stuff] but XCOM will accept it)
Nickname (once she gets it): "Lucky"
Eventual Class: Infantry
Weapon: Assault Rifle type for now, gonna switch to Battle/Heavy rifle type once we've got lazors
Armor: Tac vest for now
Accessories: Laser Sight + Medkit. Switch to Scope + Laser Sight once a Scope is avaliable
Voice: English (Australian) [No female English (Irish) :(]
Race: 1
Head: 2
Skin Color: 6
Hair/Helmet: 5
Hair Color: 15
Armor Deco: 1
Armor tint: 31
Post by: Mephansteras on March 05, 2015, 10:35:04 pm
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(http://img.ie/images/2015/03/06/d5eae89c690fe6b54d3fef8c52e9ea34.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/2KB)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/03/06/bf3b241b7956786fb20a21995e4b2ef9.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/2Kc)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/03/06/985e75b0207a642f859843885ab2e24f.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/2Kk)
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(http://img.ie/images/2015/03/06/53e0dca9521d501f9f0c364b917cbe0b.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/2KS)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/03/06/8e7dd35944fb193707e87a3cde6da788.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/2KU)
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Spoiler: Updated Roster (click to show/hide)
Ok, that's pretty much everyone now.
Tiruin, Burnt Pies, Nidilap, and tryrar, I don't have anyone with the nationalities you want left (or were suitable for your soldier). You can grab someone out of the what's left in the roster or you can wait for me to get some more soldiers in.
crazysheep, do you want me to build a Shiv for you? Won't be right away, but I can do that if you prefer. Or you can claim a Pilot again.
Everyone - If you want changes to your soldier, just let me know what you want done.
And with all that out of the way, let's start the game, shall we?
Post by: tryrar on March 05, 2015, 10:44:19 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 05, 2015, 10:49:48 pm
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I thought for sure I was a goner.
We had just finished a successful mission against an alien Abduction vessel that had landed. Captured the thing virtually intact! And then the aliens struck back.
They did something new.
It was a giant...explosion of what I can only assume was psychic energy. It seems to have ripped me into some sort of parallel universe. I woke up in my bed, the day when the summons of the Council first came. When I was first called to be the Commander of X-COM.
And called I was. It was the same...almost. But so many little things are different this time. I can only wonder what it all heralds.
Our base is in Asia this time, rather than Africa. Australia is providing our initial primary funding, as well as some excellent troop training.
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As before, there was Bradford with a briefing on the first mission. All sectoids, as expected, and an easy enough victory for the troops. They even captured some Meld!
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The world situation is pretty stable. Panic is a bit high in Mexico and Brazil, but otherwise well under control.
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Vahlen, of course, wishes to know what we shall focus our research on first
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And the base layout is a bit different, as you'd expect. Nice to have a nearby Steam Vent, although it'll mess with the Satellite Uplink block a bit.
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I also toured the Barracks and spoke with the soldiers. So many familiar faces, but many new ones as well. I can only wonder at the different threads of their past that either led them here again, or didn't. None of them seem to remember that other world.
What is real? It must have been. How else could I know so many of these people who I have never met before in my life? I remember sending them out, watching them fight, promoting them. Watching some of them die.
I can only hope that with all the changes around me I can use my experience to do better.
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on March 05, 2015, 11:04:06 pm
Let's get us some early air superiority!
Also, I think instead of going with Will to Survive, I'll take Repair and occasionally bring an Arc Thrower with me (especially if I'm being deployed alongside either a MEC or SHIV).
Post by: Toaster on March 05, 2015, 11:05:51 pm
Can't wait for Portent to roll around so you can try to get me killed!
Also, go ahead and put me down for Sapper first pick, not that you'll need that for a while. I'll have to think about the changed perk tree.
EDIT: UI, you and I are going places.
Post by: i2amroy on March 05, 2015, 11:19:14 pm
Notice how Alien Materials is in red? That means that we can't do it right now. :P
I say start researching Xenobiology.
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on March 05, 2015, 11:22:33 pm
Post by: Darkening Kaos on March 06, 2015, 01:56:24 am
...I say start researching Xenobiology.
Agreed. +1
Post by: Tiruin on March 06, 2015, 02:14:38 am
Aww fish. Someone got the German recruit mirroring my past Meph'LW game. xD
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Tiruin, Burnt Pies, Nidilap, and tryrar, I don't have anyone with the nationalities you want left (or were suitable for your soldier). You can grab someone out of the what's left in the roster or you can wait for me to get some more soldiers in.Its...its ok. I'll just wait for either British/Filipino to pop into the roster. If ever we have enough money to spend on new recruits. Thanks though, for running this awesome thing. :)
Back to the reserve crew for me. :'(
Post by: Remalle on March 06, 2015, 02:42:31 am
Post by: crazysheep on March 06, 2015, 02:51:35 am
crazysheep, do you want me to build a Shiv for you? Won't be right away, but I can do that if you prefer. Or you can claim a Pilot again.I'll go with the pilot, thanks Meph :3
As for research project, let's do Alien Weaponry.
Post by: Tiruin on March 06, 2015, 02:53:50 am
Woah, hold on here. One may enlist as a pilot character?crazysheep, do you want me to build a Shiv for you? Won't be right away, but I can do that if you prefer. Or you can claim a Pilot again.I'll go with the pilot, thanks Meph :3
When did they add the XCOM (Free version) Pilot to the game? (They only had a pistol...but still!)
Post by: Pencil_Art on March 06, 2015, 02:55:09 am
Name: Leaden 'Pencil_Art' Stik
Gender: Male
Nationality: Chinese or NZ.
Appearance: Default. I have no preferences maybe.
Preferred class: Medic
Preferred weapon: N/A
Preferred equipment: Medkit
Preferred tactics: Heals high priority team members. Tries to stay behind the front lines, such as with other support classes, but advances where needed.
Post by: crazysheep on March 06, 2015, 03:07:15 am
Woah, hold on here. One may enlist as a pilot character?No, not that pilot, but the interceptor pilots :P
When did they add the XCOM (Free version) Pilot to the game? (They only had a pistol...but still!)
Post by: Rince Wind on March 06, 2015, 09:47:14 am
Post by: Powder Miner on March 06, 2015, 03:43:38 pm
(blow some aliens UP maybe)
Post by: RAM on March 06, 2015, 04:25:01 pm
Xenobio.
Race for the steam vent!
Post by: Mephansteras on March 06, 2015, 05:19:00 pm
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I then do a tour of the Hanger and order two of the interceptors fitted out with Stingray missiles
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@crazysheep: Let me know which pilot you'd like and if you want any changes made
I was also introduced to another of our soldiers. One I hadn't known in that other universe, but I am sure he will do well.
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Some time passes and our first alien scout craft is spotted over Australia. We send up an interceptor after it
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He hits it a few times, but sustains a bit of damage and then loses contact.
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A second interceptor is sent up, and this one manages to down it!
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We gear up a squad. Time for these troops to start seeing some action!
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Geared up, our rookies head out on Operation Lazy Calm
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Spoiler: Operation Lazy Calm (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Soldiers (click to show/hide)
Post by: birdy51 on March 06, 2015, 06:07:22 pm
Post by: Rince Wind on March 06, 2015, 07:23:45 pm
But 2 Kills and the right to carry a shotgun are worth a couple days in the sickbay.
Now...did we get those good looking nurses back as well?
Post by: crazysheep on March 06, 2015, 08:54:26 pm
Post by: Powder Miner on March 06, 2015, 11:42:44 pm
B. I'm really liking the heavier narrative element-- it was what made me enjoy the first XCOM run you ran so much, and here I enjoy it as much if not more.
Post by: RAM on March 07, 2015, 01:10:55 am
Post by: Burnt Pies on March 07, 2015, 03:58:55 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 08, 2015, 11:27:36 pm
My main wishes are female, eastern european and high/very high aim. Otherwise, I don't mind. Same name, skills and looks as last time, please.
I've got the girl from Montenegro, but the rest of the available females are middle eastern or African. The Montenegro one has medium aim, not sure if you want her, one of the other soldiers, or just wait for some more recruits to show up.
Post by: RedKing on March 09, 2015, 01:46:19 pm
Post by: Teneb on March 09, 2015, 05:14:15 pm
Post by: Pencil_Art on March 09, 2015, 11:02:01 pm
Holy crap that's some long fatigue timers. Gonna need a lot of grunts to keep an operable squad running.
That would be Long War doing it's work.
Post by: crazysheep on March 09, 2015, 11:10:06 pm
LW default fatigue is something like 5 days. Dynamic War incorporates a scaling factor to speed up the campaign, while increasing fatigue duration by the same factor for balance.
Post by: mainiac on March 10, 2015, 04:17:00 pm
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on March 10, 2015, 05:02:05 pm
Post by: crazysheep on March 10, 2015, 08:36:53 pm
I think he means that there are less missions, so the fatigue times have been increased to remain relevant.Essentially this, sorry for my poor explanation.
Post by: Tiruin on March 11, 2015, 02:30:59 am
Them raws really have tiny percentages for many, MANY countries. And the USA still comes out on the top percentages! xD
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on March 11, 2015, 05:22:47 am
Post by: Tiruin on March 11, 2015, 05:23:59 am
I have a potentially insane idea for my soldier. Unfortunately, it requires that HEAT, flak, and shredder ammo all cooperate nicely together, which the wiki doesn't say (beyond AP, flak and shredder ammo items having "Can't stack with some other specialized ammo"), so I'll have to wait and see if some Science gets done.I believe that with the training roulette, it can happen--there are also items which give the desired attribute if the ability cannot be learned.
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on March 11, 2015, 05:29:37 am
EDIT: Oh wait, there it is, right in the b15 changelog.
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Three special ammo items -- Flak, Shredder and AP -- cannot stack.There goes that plan unless flak can stack with the shredder perk, in which case I should be golden.
Post by: GiglameshDespair on March 11, 2015, 08:55:54 pm
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on March 11, 2015, 09:28:14 pm
Post by: crazysheep on March 11, 2015, 09:43:00 pm
Post by: i2amroy on March 12, 2015, 01:17:33 am
That said note that currently being shredded has no effect on the bonus damage from HEAT ammo or Flak ammo. The bonus damage from shredded is applied to the post-armor modified damage number, but happens before the HEAT ammo (and probably Flak ammo) bonus damage is added on top as a flat bonus.
Post by: Mephansteras on March 16, 2015, 11:50:00 pm
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I also want to get a leg up on our research, so I use the remaining funds to start building a Laboratory and a new generator
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With those projects underway, things quiet down for a bit. Of course, the Aliens were hardly going to leave us alone for too long. We get word that Canada is under attack.
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Time for more of our rookies to get some combat experience against the aliens!
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Geared up, the troops head out for Operation Devil's Empire
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Spoiler: Operation Devil's Empire (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Soldiers (click to show/hide)
A week passes, and we get word that Argentina has abandoned us. Not wholly unexpected, though it was still disappointing to hear.
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The fission generator completes a few days later.
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Dr. Vahlen informs us shortly afterwards that the research into Xenobiology is complete
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Excellent. Now, what to focus on next?
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Post by: Pencil_Art on March 17, 2015, 12:07:01 am
Sign me up. :DReposting this just in case.
Name: Leaden 'Pencil_Art' Stik
Gender: Male
Nationality: Chinese or NZ.
Appearance: Default. I have no preferences maybe.
Preferred class: Medic
Preferred weapon: N/A
Preferred equipment: Medkit
Preferred tactics: Heals high priority team members. Tries to stay behind the front lines, such as with other support classes, but advances where needed.
Post by: crazysheep on March 17, 2015, 12:24:36 am
Post by: i2amroy on March 17, 2015, 12:29:18 am
Post by: Tiruin on March 17, 2015, 03:22:25 am
+1 for Alien Weaponry from me.third'ing this.
We need a serious firepower boost. :-\
Also, it looks like we're hard for cash.
Meph: Make my character into an airforce pilot instead! Any free aircraft (Asia based, if ever)
It'd hurt to try to get that extremely tiny percentage of even getting a Filipino soldier, seeing the raws and the many percentages ._.
Post by: Darkening Kaos on March 17, 2015, 03:27:53 am
Let's go with Alien Weaponry.
Jumps on bandwagon.
Post by: Sheb on March 17, 2015, 07:26:19 am
Post by: Rince Wind on March 17, 2015, 07:55:53 am
Post by: Toaster on March 17, 2015, 08:26:13 am
Alien Weapons, though it is kinda stupid to first research alien biology and then weapons, if you don't continue on the biology path.
In Long War it lets you trade sectoid corpses for scientists via Council requests.
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on March 17, 2015, 10:20:09 am
Post by: Mephansteras on March 17, 2015, 11:08:10 am
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And a quick status update for the base
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@Tiruin: Sure. Dasher fine? We're based in Asia, so you get that immediately at least.
@Sheb: Mummy, perhaps?
@Pencil Art: I have you in my list, I just don't have any available Chinese or NZ characters available. You can check the roster in the OP and claim any unnamed soldier on the list, or you can wait until I get some new recruits to see if we get one you want.
Post by: Karkov on March 17, 2015, 01:45:50 pm
Post by: Pencil_Art on March 17, 2015, 10:05:48 pm
Post by: Tiruin on March 18, 2015, 01:49:29 am
@Tiruin: Sure. Dasher fine? We're based in Asia, so you get that immediately at least.♪~I get to be in the airforce~♫♪
And have an aeronautical degree~
Woohoo! \o/
Thanks Meph. :)
Post by: GiglameshDespair on March 18, 2015, 01:42:23 pm
Post by: Toaster on March 18, 2015, 02:16:49 pm
Post by: i2amroy on March 18, 2015, 02:18:51 pm
http://www.reddit.com/r/Xcom/comments/2zc9fy/lw_b15_a_cautionary_tale_of_skipping_to_gauss/Pretty much. It's still possible in long war, but really requires you to min/max some of your other decisions. I'd be kinda hesitant at doing it during a mass-controlled LP.
Post by: Darkening Kaos on March 22, 2015, 07:04:49 pm
Post by: mainiac on March 22, 2015, 08:19:57 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 22, 2015, 08:28:35 pm
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on March 26, 2015, 09:45:38 am
Post by: RAM on April 16, 2015, 07:06:46 pm
Post by: Quartz_Mace on April 17, 2015, 02:46:46 pm
Post by: Toaster on April 17, 2015, 02:50:11 pm
Long War is a mod for the 2012 version, and expands upon it in many new ways.
Post by: Quartz_Mace on April 17, 2015, 02:54:54 pm
You mean 1994 versus 2012? I consider it a faithful update logically streamlined to make sense and translate well to modern gaming. It's a blast to play and plays well. Unless you're super-hardcore attached to the old system, you'll like the new if you liked the old.Cool, I'll try it then. The only things that I miss terribly from the old system are time units, but from what I've seen Long War's movement system is more fluent than vanilla EW.
Long War is a mod for the 2012 version, and expands upon it in many new ways.
Post by: Toaster on April 17, 2015, 02:56:24 pm
Post by: Quartz_Mace on April 17, 2015, 03:08:00 pm
I consider the 2012 action system well balanced and sensible; the change (and many others) also cut out on a lot of micromanagement.Don't get me wrong. I liked the new game, the new time system was just my least favorite aspect. They did make a number of imporvements, gene mods and MECs for example, and controlling one crack-team of supersoldiers as opposed to 20 rookies is pretty cool too, but I just felt that time units allowed much more tactical flexibility than the 2 action turn. With the old system, you could pop out, shoot at an alien, and run back into cover and your ability to react was proportionate to remaining actions, but the new one isn't terrible. At least the cover system was pretty improved, and it wasn't as glitchy as the original (but not by much [/kidding]).
Post by: Toaster on April 17, 2015, 06:48:56 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on April 17, 2015, 09:16:23 pm
But I've been itching to play more X-Com lately, so I'll be getting back into this very soon.
Post by: RAM on April 18, 2015, 02:13:45 am
So really, the best remark I can come up with is that the new game is small. It is compact, so you can get more compare to what you put in, but there is much less of it.
Post by: Twinwolf on April 25, 2015, 01:48:31 pm
Name: Ashley <Don't care about the nickname, you pick> Haverford
Gender: Female
Nationality: Any
Appearance: Black hair of medium length, white, Caucasian, green armor tint.
Preferred class: Any
Preferred weapon: Any
Preferred equipment: Any
Preferred tactics:
Post by: Mephansteras on June 04, 2015, 09:06:48 pm
The aliens try to scout over Australia but we drive them off.
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Things are then quiet for a little bit. Japan and France are interested in our Sectoid corpses, which we exchange for more skilled Scientists. Vahlen is quiet excited, as our Laboratory should be up and running in a short while.
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Of course, the Aliens aren't going to leave us be for that long. An urgent message arrives from the Council
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A UN Official, huh? I can't help but smile. I know exactly who we're going in to save.
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I have some of our veterans gear up. They have orders to be extra careful with the VIP on this mission.
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Spoiler: Operation Fading Vanguard (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Soldiers (click to show/hide)
Post by: Jim Groovester on June 04, 2015, 11:01:46 pm
On the other hand, all the thin men would've dropped in cover, so it's a mixed bag.
Post by: RAM on June 05, 2015, 01:16:43 am
Post by: Remalle on June 05, 2015, 02:13:23 am
Post by: Darkening Kaos on June 05, 2015, 07:17:31 am
Post by: Mephansteras on June 06, 2015, 10:54:01 am
Some soldier updates
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And looking forward to future expansions I order Shen to build an access lift to the next layer of the base.
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We also trade a few more sectoid corpses in for another scientist
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/06/672579fd6854f3f0d480a96a4911eeb3.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Zhp)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/06/2b5993b49f504274b28fc09c03c3817f.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Zhq)
And not long after we get word that the Aliens are attempting abductions in Nigeria. We assemble a team and order them to head out on the double!
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/06/e8898d7550cfed6b8fa60740a41b5675.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Zhx)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/06/12535a5f5f89a4f939ebe77ae1ea3477.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Zh9)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/06/0d8e92aa6c2ab263941c6e3c32de077c.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZhB)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/06/acf9ea7316ea3af4ba4646e9d4b724f4.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Zhc)
Spoiler: Operation Purple Skull (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Soldiers (click to show/hide)
We use the funds from the abduction to order another interceptor. Our air game could certainly use the help.
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/06/0fdedca8037908397b933e0f7da1d44d.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZlP)
Post by: Mephansteras on June 06, 2015, 11:10:56 am
The next few days are pretty uneventful. The lab is finished, much to Dr. Vahlen's satisfaction.
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/06/959aa7f7005fabec7bf1f67f132db412.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZId)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/06/d455ec54600551a8661438637e6270b7.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZIG)
Our new Interceptor arrives, bringing us to a full compliment of 6 fighters over Asia
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/06/cf885645169d61805971eebdb12ef5ed.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZIW)
And the Access lift is completed, opening up a new layer of the base for construction.
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/06/23d5f4f4ba9408d1127cb18d6ba8b8e4.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZIb)
Finally, the month ends with the usual meeting with the Council. They are most pleased with our progress to date. I can only hope future meetings go so well.
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/06/c42b4e28b1a853e212e313cd67427bb5.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZIr)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/06/2ee5cf8fba526dd0b2a50ae35ec74b4b.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZeM)
With the additional funds I order a second Satellite Uplink built as well as excavations towards the steam vent on the second level. We'll need that power soon, I'm sure.
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/06/abc3242570b37db21701dacef03edf6e.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Ze2)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/06/f2e051dfebf520c632a47c243134d2f3.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Ze6)
A short time later Dr. Vahlen informs me that the preliminary research into the Alien Weapons has been completed.
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/06/ac5c27425cf33ef6e3a52be569c332d6.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZeP)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/06/dba3eff02818d60ece0226aee3672a0b.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZeC)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/06/464b0a4b5e1d0b831534f7517af5a390.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZeZ)
We'll have to decide what to focus our research efforts on next.
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/06/f5b1b9587582f35144d8fe66f36a1c89.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Zeg)
Post by: GiglameshDespair on June 06, 2015, 11:36:23 am
Beam lasers.
Post by: crazysheep on June 06, 2015, 12:22:03 pm
Post by: birdy51 on June 06, 2015, 12:39:41 pm
Post by: RAM on June 06, 2015, 02:56:22 pm
Did I just come out of a month-long coma?
Post by: Darkening Kaos on June 06, 2015, 10:26:51 pm
Post by: scrdest on June 07, 2015, 04:45:56 am
Beam Lasers to give the aliums all-round warm and fuzzies.One out of two ain't bad.
Post by: i2amroy on June 07, 2015, 08:16:54 pm
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on June 09, 2015, 05:00:31 am
Post by: Mephansteras on June 09, 2015, 01:22:01 pm
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/09/343530a8a3eabc01c03cb326ed8bc23b.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Z8h)
Speaking of, we have a few soldier updates
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/09/b2ed03d0a3967f836f287d999fcd688a.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Z8l)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/09/ab3081b6a250dec4e7a15cdfcdb380db.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Z8o)
I also order Shen to start work on some new equipment to help our soldiers out against the aliens.
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/09/9c3786461399d592e242cf072afc0e54.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Z8I)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/09/5aae6a6345619b2a2c950d61a52d7bf0.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Z8e)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/09/ac9dd64a76620587238f1a9cbc2da1f0.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Z8N)
His men also continue the excavations on the second level.
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/09/a576c8dce2ec058962446d0893c73fe1.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Z8f)
In the midst of our base management the aliens decide to do a hit and run on Australia. I order the interceptors up to hopefully take it down, or at least drive it off.
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/09/2cfb896ac2f78e5a1279ccf7902b3ede.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Z8t)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/09/31b228b130d60e14dd2202dbddf2e8d3.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Z8w)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/09/1e3febd4c63bf566f9298d252b83ce06.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Z81)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/09/c008b45fdc29621b8730e6ad017fcf10.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Z87)
We manage to drive it off, but sustain more damage than I'd like to our own aircraft
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/09/efafdce94d845b03a7ac52a04af0cf8e.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Z88)
Almost immediately afterwards another alien craft shows up on radar. This one is big, and headed low
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/09/7df0403c2e0da4932680f8d95e0a0de8.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Z8n)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/09/1108a7a76cf1c9a0c6477b3cffbe799e.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Z8v)
An abductor landing in Melbourne. Time to get the troops geared up and out there!
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/09/d0e442bdbb1d12ccaea6c5198b5b28bd.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Z8y)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/09/7d8fab08c3d721c9b5ecc5801eb698a6.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Z8z)
Kaos will be leading this one, with a mix of Seasoned troops and a pair of rookies.
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/09/bb1d396c6c0fab8cff72816a5f13309a.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Z8J)
Spoiler: Operation Severed Savior (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Soldiers (click to show/hide)
Australia requests some of the weapon fragments we've recovered to improve thier own forces. While we will need quite a few, we could also really use more Engineers so we take the offer.
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/09/2361b86a112cf1d5ec1149b9137e957d.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Zno)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/09/5d14326723f1f6b5fc775f29dad220fb.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Zne)
Shen reports that our new equipment is completed and ready for use
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/09/ee106a49abd832443b48d8f276beb585.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZnN)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/09/9e734bd2f4ae20291faa8c1138931248.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Znf)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/09/04d6046a07ccceb59442007a27d6243b.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Znt)
The next few days pass uneventfully, until Vahlen reports that our Beam Weapon research is complete!
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/09/5fe3a40b03124747e60d6f3c54031523.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Znw)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/09/ec5ffc2ff57197f25ef814d018af3e02.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Zn1)
Now, what to focus on next?
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/09/c8bfaf973a057bebe9b8a9b1b1635e8a.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Zn7)
Also, here is the list of all soldiers waiting on Promotions:
Rina Wind
Jane Rickenbacker
Vector Space
Quartz Mace
Jack Raven
Max Greene
Amy Wong
Post by: Sheb on June 09, 2015, 01:33:30 pm
Post by: Toaster on June 09, 2015, 01:57:05 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on June 09, 2015, 02:10:33 pm
Xenoneurology. What do we lack for Adv. Lasers? What are the prospects for getting containment up and running?
Alloys, mostly. We have 19 before building any basic laser weapons and we need 30. So unless we can take down some UFO's soon it'll be awhile.
Containment up and running should be possible sometime soon, I think, if we want to go that route.
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on June 09, 2015, 02:13:21 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on June 09, 2015, 08:44:19 pm
What version of b15 are you playing on? Since I've got an assault again maybe I'll see what build I can come up with.
Alien Materials. With all the people getting shot we should prioritize better armor. (and maybe pheonix cannons)
Also this.
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on June 09, 2015, 08:45:36 pm
Was that my first mission? Golly, out for (more than) a month again.It's a pretty accurate intro for an assault.
Post by: SOLDIER First on June 09, 2015, 09:31:58 pm
Spoiler: Can we still apply? Screw it, applying. (click to show/hide)
Post by: Darkening Kaos on June 10, 2015, 04:05:32 am
Alien Materials +1
Post by: RAM on June 10, 2015, 05:01:35 am
Post by: crazysheep on June 10, 2015, 05:13:25 am
Post by: Toaster on June 10, 2015, 07:57:46 am
Post by: GiglameshDespair on June 10, 2015, 08:11:17 am
Post by: crazysheep on June 10, 2015, 08:55:20 am
Sectoid corpse requests come from Xenobiology, which we have.In that case going for Alien Materials is the better call then.
Post by: Mephansteras on June 10, 2015, 09:33:06 am
What version of b15 are you playing on? Since I've got an assault again maybe I'll see what build I can come up with.
The latest. b15d2.
Spoiler: Can we still apply? Screw it, applying. (click to show/hide)
You're in luck, I actually have an unclaimed guy from the UK.
Rickenbacker's waiting on promotion? What's her choices?Steadfast, Covering Fire, and Executioner. Same choices Villiams had after her last mission.
Post by: Toaster on June 10, 2015, 09:35:39 am
Post by: Mephansteras on June 10, 2015, 09:43:26 am
B15e is posted in the optional files section; it's "basically complete" but the devs went on vacation right after releasing it so they wouldn't have been able to put out emergency patches. It doesn't need them, though.
Hmm, I'll have to check that out.
Post by: GiglameshDespair on June 10, 2015, 10:37:52 am
Post by: SOLDIER First on June 10, 2015, 02:46:25 pm
Bloody Aliums, don't mind them attacking Melbourne, the massive herds of hipsters could do with thinning out a bit, and it was nice of them to destroy a few coffeedumpsshops, but they really needed to die much quicker.
Alien Materials +1
Post by: Quartz_Mace on June 10, 2015, 06:56:07 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on June 10, 2015, 10:54:27 pm
What version of b15 are you playing on? Since I've got an assault again maybe I'll see what build I can come up with.
The latest. b15d2.
I don't know which version Gunslinger and Ranger were rolled into a single perk, but by the time my dude gets to either of those perks you'll probably be up to date on the latest version.
So let's go with:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Powder Miner on June 16, 2015, 09:40:52 am
Post by: i2amroy on June 17, 2015, 06:37:53 pm
Also yay, level up! (And boo, injured for a month. :().
Post by: Mephansteras on June 18, 2015, 01:11:12 pm
After a bit of discussion we decide to focus on Alien Materials
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/18/7d9fef783f6b827bff41e734f32ebdef.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZWS)
Some soldier updates
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/18/2afdb5f30860946bb01447225b360935.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZWk)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/18/2728ff9dc8b6a9e338f8d9984dab43c0.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZWQ)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/18/ca303409f1d63b659fa536b3e3f3fbee.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZWR)
I then have Shen start work on some of the new laser weapons. We can't make much, but every one counts.
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/18/83c070056cef59da03edb3748d1893a8.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZWU)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/18/3b763f2b2919adcf08a379c6be5a5a64.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZWi)
I also have him build a satellite. Should have had him do that a while ago but...
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/18/d248524fd05e926a36efd2d84375d671.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZW4)
Mexico is now looking for sectoid corpses. We have plenty of those and not enough scientists, so I'm happy to do the exchange.
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/18/5e82b1296d6e30501751109be749e046.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZWA)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/18/bf3a13312e5be2370996e8df895425be.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZWE)
This second offer from them isn't as good, but we'll take it anyway.
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/18/07f40a3892bbc2b7c3fb3b5ffae88bf1.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZWL)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/18/f02c41e9a6746841ace65eba995c2484.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZWY)
Our new Satellite Uplink is up and functioning. Won't have any satellites for it for a while, but at least the option is there now.
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/18/ff104cb5612e792964ca88a11c8e8ef1.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZWm)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/18/a88c33f02cc3549ed3d817b1e9f14baa.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZW5)
Another Medium UFO incoming on Australia. Maybe this time we'll actually manage to down one of the things.
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/18/5db43887baacc3fcbc93e98a8ea45d62.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZWD)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/18/783630681a4366c450e9f7c6b8494100.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZWF)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/18/5ab5d888de702a77ac376cdc87bc6704.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZWX)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/18/675954f5aed051683339c0446b26b4c9.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZWh)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/18/7662870f5387155df170269109f23aab.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZWl)
We deal some good damage to it, and it flees before our second fighter can even engage. Frustrating. Our air force is getting chewed up but we're not getting the downed UFOs we need for Alloys.
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/18/856ca74cbedbf346bf4f9074cc3cde8d.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZWo)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/18/99b87adc40785338621e5cec5a953b84.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZWI)
It seems that the aliens are busy. Right after we lose sight of that UFO word comes that the Aliens are attacking India!
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/18/604f51f0a699f82501e32716a8c26a84.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZWe)
Rickenbacker will be leading this team out on Operation Cold Whisper
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/18/92cb68c80e8fefeb433668516975655f.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZWN)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/18/3b26d1ba98c75c4293778f58783bb170.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/ZWf)
Spoiler: Operation Cold Whisper (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Soldiers (click to show/hide)
The Officer Training school is now available to us. We'll have to get that built soon.
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/18/3700ba2370db8d6f19dd49a0ac692fb1.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Zbm)
Post by: GiglameshDespair on June 18, 2015, 02:35:38 pm
Post by: RAM on June 18, 2015, 05:09:12 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on June 18, 2015, 06:42:21 pm
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/19/7d9cf427629c677f0862db0ed96f61b5.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Zbn)
Speaking of digging and the OTS: We have enough money and power to do at least one construction project if we wish. But, what? Where do we want to expand to and what do we want to focus on? We could do OTS on the far right, and Alien containment below that. Or we could add an access lift down and build a Foundry on the 3rd level, right side. That might require another power station, though, which we could add to the column on the left.
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/19/cda9d1644fa925f63863a5e27a4c6d26.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/Zbv)
Post by: Culise on June 18, 2015, 06:44:38 pm
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on June 18, 2015, 08:55:26 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on June 18, 2015, 09:27:21 pm
OTS in top right corner.
Yeah, let's do this. Gotta get Squad Size I going. If you're in b15e gotta get the Command perk going too.
Post by: Powder Miner on June 20, 2015, 02:36:26 pm
Post by: Atomic Emu on June 22, 2015, 01:38:05 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on June 22, 2015, 07:01:32 pm
A few soldier updates
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/23/bee018cd14e077cd16ac0fbc194e244c.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/g6d)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/23/cb233b575efc5366efd93eea31700c1a.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/g6G)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/23/c4bcde57eeee3deb1f796ca012f7af99.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/g6W)
After a bit of thinking, I've decided to go ahead and get the Officer Training School going. Larger squad sizes will be incredibly helpful and having a good core group of officers should make the troops more effective all around.
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/23/7c1728d6e27f1a103757fe2c886d7fa5.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/g6b)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/23/3502186434509879ed9e6bccc523857e.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/g6r)
The next two days pass uneventfully and Vahlen informs me that we've completed our initial research into the Alien Materials. Time to figure out where we're going to focus our efforts next.
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/23/81b64589ba6181c4e7086c10b324d828.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/gPM)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/23/796688ceb04ece99682449005cacd7b2.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/gP2)
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/23/a9933e021f02fdabfe1bdf1c550da1e5.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/gP6)
Post by: i2amroy on June 22, 2015, 07:05:03 pm
Post by: Toaster on June 22, 2015, 07:12:03 pm
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on June 22, 2015, 08:43:54 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on June 22, 2015, 10:21:11 pm
Post by: Tiruin on June 22, 2015, 10:39:09 pm
Xenoneurology.This; unless we don't have the containment chamber present yet :-\ (if we do, this is where my vote lands).
In b15 doesn't UFO analysis provide extra resources for crash recovery? If that's the case I would say go with that.From what I know, it modifies it to have a somewhat moderate %+ bonus to the recovery, but it...pays back in the long-run more than the short-run. {Though, UFO analysis does give our fighters somewhat of an advantage, too, and that -one- missle hit does make a difference between a splash, a crash, or your fighter being knocked out for good}.
I'm ambivalent towards this, but I do know UFO Analysis is quite much among the 'shortest research time projects' list.
Voting for UFO analysis unless Xenoneurology can provide more of a lasting benefit given the...linear way research goes (one at a time)
Post by: crazysheep on June 23, 2015, 03:19:06 am
Post by: RAM on June 23, 2015, 04:07:31 am
Post by: Darkening Kaos on June 23, 2015, 05:05:02 am
Post by: Toaster on June 23, 2015, 01:00:15 pm
Voting for UFO analysis unless Xenoneurology can provide more of a lasting benefit given the...linear way research goes (one at a time)
If we want to buff the air game, we go Advanced Lasers for laser cannons. The analysis can wait until we have the research base to knock them off in two days or less.
Post by: Tiruin on June 23, 2015, 09:11:41 pm
...I totally forgot that we don't have munitions which turn the tide in that ratio. Thanks Toaster! :)Voting for UFO analysis unless Xenoneurology can provide more of a lasting benefit given the...linear way research goes (one at a time)
If we want to buff the air game, we go Advanced Lasers for laser cannons. The analysis can wait until we have the research base to knock them off in two days or less.
Swap my voting back to Xenoneurology
Post by: Toaster on June 24, 2015, 10:35:22 am
Also, once we capture a Muton we can get Alien Grenades.
Note: We don't need a containment for the above.
Post by: BFEL on June 24, 2015, 03:18:46 pm
I want to be MECH'd later as the ULTIMATE mobile cover.
Post by: Mephansteras on June 24, 2015, 03:24:42 pm
Also, it helps if you put in a request using the signup sheet format. Makes it easier when I'm customizing the character.
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I have an update for everyone played and screenshotted. Should be up tonight. Just need to finish doing the write-up. We got to do Portent. Yay!
Post by: Toaster on June 26, 2015, 03:48:36 pm
Post by: birdy51 on June 26, 2015, 03:54:51 pm
Post by: Tiruin on June 26, 2015, 09:15:13 pm
"This time I got Toaster killed. Woo!"You made my day. XD
Would be funnier if Meph actually did this but he's awesome. But it somehow still made me laugh. :P
Post by: Thels on June 28, 2015, 02:18:49 am
| F | Private | Iran | High | Low | 3 | Very High | Medium | Alive |
Spoiler: Signup sheet (click to show/hide)
EDIT: Actually, since she has high Accuracy, could just give her an Assault/Laser Rifle until she has Close Encounters, which allows her to move in, shoot, and get out more safely.
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on June 28, 2015, 04:00:24 pm
Post by: Thels on June 28, 2015, 06:33:19 pm
Hmm, that said, with her higher aim, that could be more beneficial.
Do we have two decent Covert Operatives right now? Else it could be worthwhile to pick up Steadfast and Hit & Run instead of CCS and CE, and focus on that. It would still make her a decent pop in, shoot, pop out character, though she'd be nearly useless against flying targets...
Post by: Mephansteras on June 28, 2015, 09:04:35 pm
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/29/2b1b05e5e8a708d3d1ab2fe224c60d7c.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/gZ0)
Brazil wants meld. While I am loathe to part with any of it, I eventually decide that the deal is good enough. We need scientists more at the moment.
(http://img.ie/images/2015/06/29/c18e7bba73147267533907bc84709c25.jpg) (http://img.ie/image/gZ3)
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A request from the council...
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Oh. Hello, Portent. We're doing this now, are we? Well...I know what we'll find out there, but might as well go pick up the pieces. Can't let the aliens have free run.
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I make a few executive decisions regarding some promotions. I want only our experienced troops on this one.
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I have Kaos gear up the squad and get under way.
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Spoiler: Operation Broken Fear (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Soldiers (click to show/hide)
@Thels: We have 0 Assault Corporals at this point. Heck, we just now got more than one Corporal period.
Post by: Darkening Kaos on June 28, 2015, 11:47:24 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Shredder, I choose you!Spoiler (click to show/hide)
And over a month of hospital food - I'm gonna be an angry trooper when I get back on active duty.
Post by: Thels on June 29, 2015, 03:46:43 am
@Thels: We have 0 Assault Corporals at this point. Heck, we just now got more than one Corporal period.
Well, I'm going with this character regardless (updated a bit from the previous post):
| F | Private | Iran | High | Low | 3 | Very High | Medium | Alive |
Spoiler: Signup sheet (click to show/hide)
, Ranger, I'm torn between taking Steadfast and Hit and Run, and sticking to Assault Rifles due to her low health, or going for the up close and personal CCS and CE, and switching to Shotguns at that point. On the other hand, as an Assault, she should get decent health upgrades, and she's currently like what, 1 hp under average?
What builds are Sheb McSheb and Jim Groovester currenty going for?
Post by: Toaster on June 29, 2015, 08:30:31 am
CCS/CE are pretty stellar perks, and if you have the mobility to abuse CE, it's a near-Hit and Run. Just grab Extra Conditioning at the end to shore up your HP pool and you'll be good to go.
Post by: Thels on June 29, 2015, 08:37:26 am
If there's not, then her mobility could make her a good candidate. Steadfast can be very important for not panicking at the right moment, to hack those arrays, whereas CCS is actually a liability, as you can't turn it off mid-mission, and when you're out of ammo, you can't Run & Gun to hack the next array. CCS also doesn't synergize all that well with Hit & Run, making Steadfast the superior choice.
Post by: Orb on June 29, 2015, 01:31:56 pm
Post by: Quartz_Mace on June 29, 2015, 03:55:27 pm
Post by: i2amroy on June 29, 2015, 04:14:27 pm
Okay, guys, I know I'm the biggest target in the squad but what the hell.....?They aren't all standing at the same distance from the camera. Look at the feet and you'll notice that it's a wedge formation, your guy is really the same size as the other guy on the right.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Mephansteras on June 29, 2015, 04:17:13 pm
Are we going for psionics? If we are, I'm thinking of going for will to survive for the Will bonus because my character's will would be pretty high. If not, I'll take an offensive perk but I'm not sure which yet.
I plan on using all of the available tools, yes. Which soldiers get what depends on what the player wants. (Psi, Mech, Genetics, etc)
Post by: Darkening Kaos on June 29, 2015, 08:34:32 pm
Okay, guys, I know I'm the biggest target in the squad but what the hell.....?They aren't all standing at the same distance from the camera. Look at the feet and you'll notice that it's a wedge formation, your guy is really the same size as the other guy on the right.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Ahem.....Perspective can go fuck itself, Escher style.
Post by: Quartz_Mace on June 30, 2015, 01:41:26 pm
Alright, then I will go with Will to Survive. A psi infantry might be a little odd, but there are some psi abilities that might be very useful at certain times, like when I'm out of ammo but need to contribute to the squad, or when I've moved up and can't shoot twice.Are we going for psionics? If we are, I'm thinking of going for will to survive for the Will bonus because my character's will would be pretty high. If not, I'll take an offensive perk but I'm not sure which yet.
I plan on using all of the available tools, yes. Which soldiers get what depends on what the player wants. (Psi, Mech, Genetics, etc)
It also makes me harder to kill, which I love.
Post by: BFEL on July 01, 2015, 11:38:39 am
Also If you take Regen Biofield it can synergize well with my planned Mobile Cover GoliathAlright, then I will go with Will to Survive. A psi infantry might be a little odd, but there are some psi abilities that might be very useful at certain times, like when I'm out of ammo but need to contribute to the squad, or when I've moved up and can't shoot twice.Are we going for psionics? If we are, I'm thinking of going for will to survive for the Will bonus because my character's will would be pretty high. If not, I'll take an offensive perk but I'm not sure which yet.
I plan on using all of the available tools, yes. Which soldiers get what depends on what the player wants. (Psi, Mech, Genetics, etc)
It also makes me harder to kill, which I love.
Speaking of which:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Also scratch my previous order for a high defense/health guy, MECing erases that stuff, go high will because that is apparently unaffected,
Spoiler: Perk Progression (click to show/hide)
Post by: Mephansteras on July 01, 2015, 05:38:16 pm
Some soldier updates
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And with our stocks of alloys a little replenished I order some more laser weapons built. Shen also informs me that the first batch is ready for field use.
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A few days pass and the Council presents us with their report on our progress. Pretty good so far, I'd say. But things haven't started to get really nasty, yet.
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Oh, hello. Shoot that thing down, we need more alloys!
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A landing! Even better!
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Villiams, get a squad ready. Time to snag ourselves some alien tech.
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Spoiler: Operation Hidden Crown (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Soldiers (click to show/hide)
As an unfortunate note after that fight our only Laser Rifle is damaged beyond use. Shen informs me we'll need to set up a specialized Repair Bay to get it back up and working again. Seems odd that the Workshop can't do that but...we start working towards building one. We need those weapons!
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We also get a Fission Generator building to provide the necessary power for the new facility.
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Post by: birdy51 on July 01, 2015, 07:03:38 pm
Continue to visit Villiams. Bring the checkers board and the head of a sectoid stolen from the scientists to cheer her spirits.
Post by: Jim Groovester on July 01, 2015, 10:01:36 pm
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Seeing this reminds me of this classic picture (http://imgur.com/WLUJeHg), and how it needs to be updated to include the laser rifle being broken as well.
Post by: RAM on July 01, 2015, 10:12:28 pm
Opportunist for Villiams.
Post by: i2amroy on July 04, 2015, 02:23:11 am
Of course shredder is definitely much more helpful early, but if any later gunners feel like building for the long game it's definitely something to keep in mind.
Post by: BFEL on July 05, 2015, 06:26:21 pm
Note on Heat Ammo, but it does trigger and do full damage on anything that does damage with your gun. This means that, for example, flush shots that would normally only do 1 damage in exchange for their ~90% hit chance still do like 5 damage to mechanical units (this is even better if you pick up danger zone and mayhem, since your suppression becomes a 6 damage guaranteed hit AoE on all mechanical units in it). It also pierces all armor, meaning it's great for bursting mechtoid shield bubbles.But then you can't bullet wizard! That build gives you a guaranteed hit AoE that makes all subsequent shots on those units stronger and more likely to hit!
Of course shredder is definitely much more helpful early, but if any later gunners feel like building for the long game it's definitely something to keep in mind.
Post by: Toaster on July 06, 2015, 04:05:48 pm
Also, Sapper Sapper Sapper Sapper Sapper Sapper Sapper
Post by: birdy51 on July 06, 2015, 04:24:42 pm
Is it too late to request HEAT for Giselle instead?
Post by: Thels on July 06, 2015, 05:14:40 pm
Shredder Ammo leads into the Bullet Wizard build. Basically, you combine Suppression + Danger Zone + Mayhem + Holo Targeting + Shredder Ammo.
Suppression itself always succeeds. If your opponent provokes a reaction shot, then that shot is based on your hit chance, but it's not the important part.
Danger Zone applies Suppression to a group of targets close to each other, instead of just 1 target.
Mayhem deals 2 damage to all Suppressed targets.
Holo Targeting applies a +10 aim bonus to hit all Suppressed targets.
Shredder Ammo causes all Suppressed targets to take more damage.
Thus, the combination of perks allows you to AoE debuff groups of aliens with 100% chance of success. It's a great support build.
Flush and HEAT Ammo are more for dealing damage, which can also be really useful, but it depends on what you want to go for. Support or dealing damage.
Post by: birdy51 on July 06, 2015, 07:11:48 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on July 18, 2015, 06:44:56 pm
Officer Training School will be done shortly. Do Rickenbacker and Villiams still want to be our first officers?
Post by: RAM on July 18, 2015, 08:45:34 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on July 18, 2015, 09:58:48 pm
That seems sensible.Do IDoes Villiams still have crazy-high will?
Yeah, she's got one of the better wills.
Post by: Darkening Kaos on July 18, 2015, 11:03:09 pm
Post by: BFEL on July 19, 2015, 02:26:42 am
Just letting you know my next choice is Will to Survive.Could you give that perk to the thread?
Post by: Darkening Kaos on July 19, 2015, 02:53:46 am
Just letting you know my next choice is Will to Survive.Could you give that perk to the thread?
Hmmm. Can you tell if it is working?
Just be thankful I didn't choose Executioner.......
Post by: BFEL on July 20, 2015, 05:08:40 am
Well since it seems to be an inverse relationship Executioner would probably have resulted in the thread springing to life with everyone, even Toady One worshipping the results daily.Just letting you know my next choice is Will to Survive.Could you give that perk to the thread?
Hmmm. Can you tell if it is working?
Just be thankful I didn't choose Executioner.......
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on August 19, 2015, 08:57:17 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on August 20, 2015, 10:44:48 am
Sorry about the Hiatus everyone. Haven't forgotten about this, I've just had my free time seriously curtailed this past month with my sister ending up in the hospital. I'm hoping this will start to get back to normal sometime soon, but it could be a few more weeks.
Post by: mainiac on August 20, 2015, 11:11:01 am