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Title: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 26, 2009, 06:59:15 pm

A Mafia with lots of unique roles!

Basic Mafia Rules: There will be a number of players, some of these players are Mafia! The players spend the day voting on a person to kill, and the Mafia spend the night to kill one person at their own discretion.

There are two rogue agents mixed in with special powers, each with the objective of having to kill all the other players.

The town wins should they manage to eliminate the mafia, and the rogue players. The mafia wins when they eliminate all other players. The Rogue players win when all players other than themselves are dead.

Two players will be selected at random to be "best friends". If one of the best friends die, then the other will be so grief-stricken that they'll commit suicide the next night. If the deceased BF is revived on the same night that the living BF would commit suicide, then the suicide is prevented from occurring. If at any time the two BF's are the only players left standing, they automatically win, regardless of what faction they're on.

This particular Mafia has the additional rule that the roles of dead players are NOT revealed, not to the populace and not to the killer. Only Investigaters can determine the roles of the dead.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Townie roles:

Cop: A regular cop, uses the help of his enabler to investigate one person each night (determining their role) or investigate one dead body (determining it's role posthumously). Is informed of who his enabler is.

Cop Enabler: Has no powers by himself, but if he's killed, the cop can't perform his duties and transforms into a regular townie. If revived, then the cop will be able to perform his duties again. Is informed of who the cop is.

Arrogant Master Detective: During the night, he functions exactly like a cop, and can investigate one person or body per night. During the day, he has the added ability of being able to deduce the truthfulness of any statement OR investigate any dead body to determine it's role and who killed that person (he requests to do either of these things by contacting the mod, i.e. me). However, he's so arrogant, the he'll gloat loudly of his discovery and everyone will be notified that he's the master detective.

Amnesiamancer: Once a night, he'll cast his magic to make a character forget what he wanted to do that night, thus negating whatever his action was. The Amnesiamancer overrides any and all actions. Those that are targeted by the Amnesiamancer are notified that they their character has been amnesia-fied, but not by who.

Alarmomancer: If he's attacked, will automatically let everyone know exactly who attacked him. If targeted by the Amnesiamancer at the same time as being attacked, he'll forget to cast his magic.

White Mage: Each night, he can target one person each night to protect OR one person to revive each night.

Mafia Roles:

Necromancer: Can revive any character each night.

Illusionist: Each night, can cast a magic on himself or anyone else that not only hides his identity, but can fool anyone investigating him into thinking that the subject of the magic is any role the illusionist wants (for example, he could cast the magic on the white mage, saying to make him look like a mafia member, and if anyone investigates them, they'll turn up mafia member. But if he casts the magic on himself, and says he wants to appear like an Alarmomancer, then anyone investigating him will think he's the alarmomancer.) Cannot make himself look like the Lovecraftian horror.

Criminal Mastermind: Can perform perfect crimes. Can kill the Alarmomancer without triggering his alarm, and the arrogant master detective can't deduce his identity from examining his victims, but the AMD will not be revealed because of this.

third party roles

Situational Mind Controller: This person can control the actions of ANY other character during the night, on one condition however: when requesting who to mind control, he must post the person's name AND role, necessitating that he deduce who's who before he can become effective. His victims are made aware that they are mind controlled, but not by who. Wins when he's the only person left. If he successfully mind controls a mafia member, he controls who the mafia kills that night or use that mafia member's power. If he controls the cop or detective, the results are given to the mind controller and not the investigator. If mind controlling a killer role, he can order that player to kill themselves. Automatically loses should all the killing roles be exterminated and no way to revive them exists.

Lovecraftian Horror: A monster of unimaginable horror hiding amongst humans. He can kill one player per night and he can survive being nightkilled once, and any detective investigating him is given the "townie" result and the investigator in question goes insane, and any person they investigate after that gives them an incorrect answer. They are not told they are insane. He wins when all other players are dead. The Illusionist's magic overrides and disables his mind-warping appearance.

Ontop of all this:

Two players will be chosen to be "best friends", these two players will know eachother's identities. If one of the two are killed, then the second will wait until the next night, and then commit suicide. The white mage cannot protect against suicide. If revived, he waits until the next night, then commits suicide again unless the first is revived.

THIS IS IMPORTANT: You may PM each other freely as long as I am CC'd on every PM. All communication is to include me.

Any questions? If something seems wrong with the roles as I've laid them out, then feel free to point it out.

The players, in order of first to last to sign up:

Penguinofhonor
Zaithemaster
Qwertyuiopas
PsychoJelly
Boksi
Webadict
Alexhans
Org
Inaluct
bob_smith
Pandarsenic
Cheeetar
Nuke

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: penguinofhonor on March 26, 2009, 07:01:31 pm

I'll play.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Zai on March 26, 2009, 07:01:47 pm

Quote from: chaoticjosh on March 26, 2009, 06:59:15 pm

The town wins should they manage to eliminate the town, and the rogue players.

wut

Other than that, I'm in.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 26, 2009, 07:03:46 pm

Ha, thanks for catching that typo Zai.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: qwertyuiopas on March 26, 2009, 07:04:44 pm

This looks interesting.

I'll play too!

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Psyco Jelly on March 26, 2009, 07:08:39 pm

I'll play.

Hoping for lovecraftian horror.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: penguinofhonor on March 26, 2009, 07:10:10 pm

Also, with revivals, what's to stop the game from just descending into "I revive player A, we lynch player A, I revive player A, we lynch player A" with the vigilante/serial killer-esque roles killing at random until they kill a reviver person?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Boksi on March 26, 2009, 07:11:31 pm

Count me in.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: webadict on March 26, 2009, 07:19:38 pm

Quote from: penguinofhonor on March 26, 2009, 07:10:10 pm

Also, with revivals, what's to stop the game from just descending into "I revive player A, we lynch player A, I revive player A, we lynch player A" with the vigilante/serial killer-esque roles killing at random until they kill a reviver person?

No point. I'm in.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 26, 2009, 07:22:30 pm

Quote from: penguinofhonor on March 26, 2009, 07:10:10 pm

Also, with revivals, what's to stop the game from just descending into "I revive player A, we lynch player A, I revive player A, we lynch player A" with the vigilante/serial killer-esque roles killing at random until they kill a reviver person?

The mafia and the lovecraftian horror can kill a person each night, so the situation you describe is sort of unlikely, and once all the mafia and the two rogues are dead, the town would be considered the winner automatically.

There is only one stalemate type condition I thought of, and that's if the Amnesiamancer is the last townie and only one other killer role is the last opposition. They'll cancel eachother out forever, so I'd end the game as a draw.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Psyco Jelly on March 26, 2009, 07:27:22 pm

What if the white mage and lovecraftian horror are best friends?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 26, 2009, 07:29:48 pm

In that condition Psycho, then The LCH would have to kill the white mage last. So he's technically declared the winner before the next night begins.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Psyco Jelly on March 26, 2009, 07:31:52 pm

For that matter, if the white mage was one of the best friends, why would he/she commit suicide instead of reviving them?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 26, 2009, 07:34:57 pm

I'd allow the white mage to revive his best friend before he did the deed.

I made a slight change to the situational mind controller. If he's controlling a killer role, he can order that role to commit suicide. I did this so he can actually win instead of it being a logical impossibility.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Alexhans on March 26, 2009, 07:36:36 pm

Quote from: chaoticjosh on March 26, 2009, 06:59:15 pm

This particular Mafia has the additional rule that the roles of dead players are NOT revealed, not to the populace and not to the killer. Only Investigaters can determine the roles of the dead.[/i]

I hate this chaos... you're the only one who has fun with this... It doesn't help anyone not to know anything about what's going on...

Quote

I'm hoping for a lot of players, hopefully 16, but 12 will do fine.

I'd suggest no more than 13...

Have you thought about consequences between actions? Do you know if it's balanced?  because your last third world war was not really fair.  I'd suggest reading the mafiawiki on balancing and making your own mods... How to mod (http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Category:How_to_Mod). Look at Game Balance, Flavor...
useful too (http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=To_Amateur_Game_Designers)
Can you tell us anything about the probable amount of roles or at least wich roles are surely going to appear?

If someone revives it will be obviously revived by the necro... so everyone should lynch him...

the Illusionist explanation is a bit weird... clarify please.
Really... roles should be easy to explain or there's something wrong with them.

Third party roles are farfetched... Situational Mind Controller... I hope you can handle all the orders you will get from the different power roles...

Having said all this... I'm in with reservations... There are a lot of mafia games going on so I don't know how much attention they will give this one or the others.  That's why I think that a clear game with few people is better than a super complex game with multiple power roles and stars and magical wonders with millions of signed ups but no one that actually plays...

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 26, 2009, 07:44:37 pm

You are quite the skeptic Alexhans. I will clarify.

The white mage and the necro can revive people, and no one is notified who revived who.

The Illusionist does exactly what it says, it creates an Illusion. What this means is that, each night, he can create an illusion, either around himself or any other player (the other player is not made aware of this), and the Illusionist dictates what he wants the illusion to be, in order to trick anyone that is investigating that person that night. For example, the illusionist creates an illusion around the alarmomancer, and says he wants him to look like the mind controller. Anyone investigating him will think he's the mind controller. The Illusionist can also create an Ilusion around dead bodies, to create the same effect.

It's easy to remember but hard to explain.

was that a question about the Situation mind controller, or just a statement?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Alexhans on March 26, 2009, 07:54:38 pm

Quote from: chaoticjosh on March 26, 2009, 07:44:37 pm

You are quite the skeptic Alexhans. I will clarify. 

I am lately.  Since my Bajo Flores total failure...  :'(

Quote from: chaoticjosh on March 26, 2009, 07:44:37 pm

The white mage and the necro can revive people, and no one is notified who revived who.

Well... we'll see how it goes then... I hadn't understood the mage part...
regarding the illusionist... I hope he's not too powerful for the game. 

Quote

was that a question about the Situation mind controller, or just a statement?

an expression of hope.

I'm not calling you inexperienced or anything because I definetly know you succesfully mod a lot of things but mafia doesn't rely precisely on roleplay, imagination and coolness... It wouldn't hurt you to read that links I sent you.  :P

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 26, 2009, 08:22:39 pm

I just finished reading it Alex, I must say, it was informative. I think I did a good job though, so I've setup the dominos, now I just have to see how they fall, so to speak.

Also, what did you mean by "my third world war was not really fair"? I don't remember being a mod for something like that.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Org on March 26, 2009, 08:23:20 pm

Im in.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Zai on March 26, 2009, 08:24:49 pm

Quote from: chaoticjosh on March 26, 2009, 08:22:39 pm

Also, what did you mean by "my third world war was not really fair"? I don't remember being a mod for something like that.

I believe he's referring to the "Third World Mafia" put on by Servant Corps.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Servant Corps on March 26, 2009, 08:46:41 pm

Third-World War wasn't fair? Mechnically, it was pretty fair, everyone started with the same amount of units and money, and told to fight. It was due to the Cooperative Victory that made it so totally unfair.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 26, 2009, 08:58:12 pm

Let me just count everyone that's signed up.

Penguinofhonor
Zaithemaster
Qwertyuiopas
PsychoJelly
Boksi
Webadict
Alexhans
Org

That's 8 people thus far. Great response seeing as how all of them are regulars around here.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Alexhans on March 26, 2009, 09:02:33 pm

Quote from: chaoticjosh on March 26, 2009, 08:22:39 pm

I just finished reading it Alex, I must say, it was informative. I think I did a good job though, so I've setup the dominos, now I just have to see how they fall, so to speak.

Also, what did you mean by "my third world war was not really fair"? I don't remember being a mod for something like that.

oh NO! sorry for that... That one was Servant Corps mafia... I apologize.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: penguinofhonor on March 26, 2009, 10:10:12 pm

Ha, you called me a regular.

Not that I already knew that, but now I can stroke my internet-ego a bit more.

... I really need a hobby or something.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: inaluct on March 26, 2009, 10:11:54 pm

Sign me up. :)

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: bob_smith on March 26, 2009, 10:50:14 pm

This sounds interesting, I'm in.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 26, 2009, 11:05:42 pm

Ha, 10 people now, that's great.

I've been working out the possible scenarios for all the roles in my mind, and the "best friends" rule throws a big ol' monkey wrench in there, So I'm changing the rules slightly.

1) If any two players that are best friends are the only two players left alive at any time, they both win automatically, regardless of what faction they're on.

also, I want to buff the AMD slightly, so rule change number two:

2) The AMD, if, during his day turn, decides to investigate a corpse, and that person was killed by the Criminal Mastermind, the AMD can deduce the corpse's role without blowing his cover. He still cannot determine who killed the corpse however.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 27, 2009, 01:23:12 am

I totally want to be the Mind Controller. :3 I'm in.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: webadict on March 27, 2009, 08:47:19 am

Quote from: chaoticjosh on March 26, 2009, 11:05:42 pm

Ha, 10 people now, that's great.

I've been working out the possible scenarios for all the roles in my mind, and the "best friends" rule throws a big ol' monkey wrench in there, So I'm changing the rules slightly.

1) If any two players that are best friends are the only two players left alive at any time, they both win automatically, regardless of what faction they're on.

also, I want to buff the AMD slightly, so rule change number two:

2) The AMD, if, during his day turn, decides to investigate a corpse, and that person was killed by the Criminal Mastermind, the AMD can deduce the corpse's role without blowing his cover. He still cannot determine who killed the corpse however.

Who says what the AMD says? Do you or the AMD?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Cheeetar on March 27, 2009, 09:00:16 am

I am in.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 27, 2009, 09:19:16 am

Quote from: webadict on March 27, 2009, 08:47:19 am

Quote from: chaoticjosh on March 26, 2009, 11:05:42 pm

Ha, 10 people now, that's great.

I've been working out the possible scenarios for all the roles in my mind, and the "best friends" rule throws a big ol' monkey wrench in there, So I'm changing the rules slightly.

1) If any two players that are best friends are the only two players left alive at any time, they both win automatically, regardless of what faction they're on.

also, I want to buff the AMD slightly, so rule change number two:

2) The AMD, if, during his day turn, decides to investigate a corpse, and that person was killed by the Criminal Mastermind, the AMD can deduce the corpse's role without blowing his cover. He still cannot determine who killed the corpse however.

Who says what the AMD says? Do you or the AMD?

If the AMD wants to detect the truthfulness of a statement or investigate a corpse, then he'll tell me and I'll make a post broadcasting his identity AND his deduction.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: webadict on March 27, 2009, 10:11:50 am

Well, I suppose it's better than having the mafia pose as AMD...

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 27, 2009, 10:15:38 am

Why not.
Sign me up.
Zombies for the win!

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 27, 2009, 12:06:24 pm

If I'm counting correctly, then we have 13 players, a good number.

If anyone wants to jump into the action, do it within the next couple hours, I'll probably be officially starting the Mafia by 4:00 pm Eastern, three hours from now.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 27, 2009, 03:24:30 pm

Alright guys, I'm not accepting any more entries. I have all the roles determined, and I'm sending PM's now.

Remember, copy me in on all PM's between eachother.

Don't copy/paste the PM I give you to prove your innocence.

Be considerate, and don't talk if you are killed.

votes are in red

Role playing is encouraged but not mandatory.

Feel free to ask me any questions if you are confused.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 27, 2009, 04:40:19 pm

Game Start

May the best team/player win!

The players, in order of first to last to sign up:

Penguinofhonor
Zaithemaster
Qwertyuiopas
PsychoJelly
Boksi
Webadict
Alexhans
Org
Inaluct
bob_smith
Pandarsenic
Cheeetar
Nuke

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 27, 2009, 04:47:21 pm

Then I guess...
It is a cold day. A stiff breeze ruffles the hair of NUKE9.13 as he stands by the freshly dug grave. 13 others are with him. The thirteenth is lying in the grave. The good knight chaoticjosh lies clad in his simple grey robes, holding his double bladed axe. A stake has been driven through his heart, and protective charms are lain around him. NUKE9.13 starts the sermon
"He was a good man... he was also a bad man. Such was his nature. He let us all live here, in his rambling mansion, without checking our backgrounds at all... that was his downfall, I guess."
Tears flow.
"Where did it start? Was it with the mysterious thefts? Certainly that led to some people leaving. The illusionary staircase... the cause of demise of a resident white mage... we all know they come in twos. So there is another here. He could have saved chaotic, were it not for that-"
Nuke indicates the stake
"And the drawings of insanity... we have all heard whispers of a beast that draws such things. Thus the talismans.
Some say that the lobster man was controlled by another mind when he hung himself. Certainly he was acting oddly.
And then when he got up again and killed his friend, well, that's just worrying. Would the white mage do such a thing?"
NUKE9.13 realises he is rambling too much. He sighs, and together with three others, lowers the lid onto the coffin. He then throws a handful of dirt onto the coffin, and whispers the words:
"We will kill those who did this to you, chaotic"   

WHAMMO
I DECLARE THAT CANON.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Alexhans on March 27, 2009, 04:59:49 pm

well... I guess we could all start by stating:
I have a townie Role
because AMD is like the child in DF mafia and can see throught the truth of a post.
Everyone... Do it.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 27, 2009, 05:05:04 pm

Dammit Nuke, I walk away from the computer for a second and you make a masterpiece! How can I trust you to do anything?

Now here's the REAL canon:

13 persons called from across the land, contacted by the old miser "ChaoticJosh", meet today at his Manor. The sprawling building covers tens of acres, as testament to his immense wealth.

As the last guest enters the old building however, the doors, windows and walls glow brightly with intense light. A magic barrier has suddenly been erected surrounding the entire estate. No one can get out. Glowing letters suddenly appear on the former exit:

"I'd like to play one last game with my money before I die. I have invited a number of guests, a number of killers, a renowned hitman, and a monster from beyond this world. Once everyone with murderous intent has ceased to live, only then will the barrier be lifted.

You will enjoy your stay at my Manor I hope, your rooms and all things necessary to live have already been prepared for you.

May the game begin!"

You look at eachother, and decide that, not knowing how anyone is, to decide on who dies by a formal vote.

What will become of you?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 27, 2009, 07:29:27 pm

"Wait..." Pandarsenic mutters. "Hold up," he speaks, louder this time. "If the killers are the last ones alive, they're still stuck, then, right? 'Everyone with murderous intent' must die, right...?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 27, 2009, 07:38:11 pm

It's meant to allude to everyone's objective. where some of the guest came in knowing they are going to be killing somebody. Once the source of the intent is gone, the condition is met, and the doors open back up.

It also applies to the best friends, who don't want to kill eachother, and so the condition is met when they're the only ones left.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Cheeetar on March 27, 2009, 08:01:05 pm

I have a townie role.
I'd advise the AMD to only investigate this late game, when he can be more sure of getting a mafia killed.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: webadict on March 27, 2009, 08:21:30 pm

I have a townie role.

Also... I don't know why people aren't worried about the Lovecraftian Horror... If the AMD investigates him, he'll become insane.

Quote from: Cheeetar on March 27, 2009, 08:01:05 pm

I have a townie role.
I'd advise the AMD to only investigate this late game, when he can be more sure of getting a mafia killed.

He has a point.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Cheeetar on March 27, 2009, 08:26:38 pm

Assuming all the roles are used, everyone has a role. There are 5 mafia roles/kill everyone roles, and 6 townie power roles. Then there are two best friends.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 27, 2009, 08:36:31 pm

Also, we're seriously able to lynch a Great Old One? That is hilarious.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: inaluct on March 27, 2009, 11:42:45 pm

I am pro-town.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Psyco Jelly on March 28, 2009, 01:19:38 am

Townie.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 28, 2009, 01:21:16 am

Quote from: Psyco Jelly on March 28, 2009, 01:19:38 am

Townie.

What about them?
FoS.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: inaluct on March 28, 2009, 01:33:24 am

Quote from: Pandarsenic on March 28, 2009, 01:21:16 am

Quote from: Psyco Jelly on March 28, 2009, 01:19:38 am

Townie.

What about them?
FoS.

Seconded.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Alexhans on March 28, 2009, 01:45:42 am

Quote from: Alexhans on March 27, 2009, 04:59:49 pm

well... I guess we could all start by stating:
I have a townie Role
because AMD is like the child in DF mafia and can see throught the truth of a post.
Everyone... Do it.

Quote from: Psyco Jelly on March 28, 2009, 01:19:38 am

Townie.

Is it so hard to do what I asked?
If anyone avoid's writing that he WILL gain my vote.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 28, 2009, 03:48:49 am

I have a townie role.
And my intro was much better than yours.

Humph.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Cheeetar on March 28, 2009, 04:13:37 am

Quote from: NUKE9.13 on March 28, 2009, 03:48:49 am

I have a townie role.
And my intro was much better than yours.

Humph.

You know, even if you are a townie, this could come up as false because ChaoticJosh does not like your intro :P.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: qwertyuiopas on March 28, 2009, 06:14:13 am

I'm a townie.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Boksi on March 28, 2009, 06:42:50 am

I'm the lovecraftian horror.

No. Not really.

What I am is a Townie. I have no powers whatsoever. Whee.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: webadict on March 28, 2009, 08:21:53 am

Quote from: Boksi on March 28, 2009, 06:42:50 am

I'm the lovecraftian horror.

No. Not really.

What I am is a Townie. I have no powers whatsoever. Whee.

So... make part of your post a lie... That great! Really. AWESOME. Now I think you are the Lovecraftian Horror, because the AMD will get a townie detection off the Lovecraftian Horror...

FoS

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Boksi on March 28, 2009, 08:27:47 am

Okay, how about this:

I am a townie and have no powers whatsoever.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: bob_smith on March 28, 2009, 11:21:31 am

I am town alligned.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Zai on March 28, 2009, 11:29:43 am

I have a townie role.

And webadict, the Cop would become insane if they investigated the Lovecraftian Horror, too, not just the AMD.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Org on March 28, 2009, 11:30:53 am

I am a townie.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: webadict on March 28, 2009, 12:04:23 pm

Quote from: Zaithemaster on March 28, 2009, 11:29:43 am

I have a townie role.

And webadict, the Cop would become insane if they investigated the Lovecraftian Horror, too, not just the AMD.

Whoops, I forgot there was even a cop... I thought there was only an AMD. Duly noted!

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Alexhans on March 28, 2009, 01:40:47 pm

Quote from: Boksi on March 28, 2009, 08:27:47 am

Okay, how about this:

I am a townie and have no powers whatsoever.

the cop is not interested in you claiming not to be a PR.  It want's to know if you're aligned with the town.  That isn't useful.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: inaluct on March 28, 2009, 01:45:02 pm

That's it, vote Boksi. That was one time too many.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Boksi on March 28, 2009, 02:09:23 pm

Gah! Pro-town! I am pro-town! I am-

Oh, forget it. Guess I'll change my estimate of my destiny from "guy who gets killed in second turn" to "guy who gets killed in first turn".

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 28, 2009, 02:17:17 pm

Quote from: Boksi on March 28, 2009, 02:09:23 pm

I am pro-town!

He's said that in a stand-alone sentence. We can scan him.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: bob_smith on March 28, 2009, 02:41:41 pm

Anyone noticed that Panda still hasn't said anything meaning he's got a town role?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 28, 2009, 02:45:26 pm

Wait, I didn't?

I'd take the time to dig up a post if/where I did but that's too bothersome.

I am pro-town.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 28, 2009, 09:47:12 pm

I like Meph's two day game-day's, so I'll probably be ending the first day some time tomorrow.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Zai on March 28, 2009, 10:01:06 pm

Hey Josh. Can we get a complete list of people in the game?

My vote goes to Psyco Jelly for saying "Townie" and nothing else.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 28, 2009, 10:19:49 pm

Sure thing Zai, I'll put it up on the first post too.

Quote from: chaoticjosh on March 27, 2009, 04:40:19 pm

The players, in order of first to last to sign up:

Penguinofhonor
Zaithemaster
Qwertyuiopas
PsychoJelly
Boksi
Webadict
Alexhans
Org
Inaluct
bob_smith
Pandarsenic
Cheeetar
Nuke

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: penguinofhonor on March 28, 2009, 10:22:27 pm

I'm a townie.

The Arrogant Master Detective will die rather often, won't he?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: webadict on March 28, 2009, 10:23:05 pm

Quote from: penguinofhonor on March 28, 2009, 10:22:27 pm

I'm a townie.

The Arrogant Master Detective will die rather often, won't he?

...Probably.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: penguinofhonor on March 28, 2009, 10:27:14 pm

Ha, I can imagine him using his night action and getting killed.

You hear someone shouting in the middle of the night: "Ha, I found it out! Go me! <insert person here> is the alarmomancer! I'm so smart. Hey, why do you have that knife? Get away from me! No! No!"

You all rush towards the voice and discover <someone> the Arrogant Master Detective's body.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Psyco Jelly on March 28, 2009, 10:55:39 pm

I vote Zaithemaster for voting for me.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Alexhans on March 28, 2009, 11:00:20 pm

Quote from: Zaithemaster on March 28, 2009, 10:01:06 pm

Hey Josh. Can we get a complete list of people in the game?

My vote goes to Psyco Jelly for saying "Townie" and nothing else.

Quote from: Psyco Jelly on March 28, 2009, 10:55:39 pm

I vote Zaithemaster for voting for me.

OMGUS and townie argument right so... Vote Psyco Jelly

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Zai on March 28, 2009, 11:01:41 pm

...Wow. An OMGUS vote? Really? Those are never good.

Also, you still haven't said that you are a townie. My vote for you remains.

Ninja'd by Alexhans pretty much.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: inaluct on March 28, 2009, 11:02:48 pm

Unvote.

Vote Psycho Jelly. Mainly because Boksi seems to have been honestly making a joke, and for the reasons Alexhans enumerated.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 28, 2009, 11:17:25 pm

As a free service, I'll impartially keep track of votes.

Expanding the existing list of players, everyone's name is on the left, and everyone voting for that person on the right.

List:

Quote

Penguinofhonor

Zaithemaster       Psyco jelly

Qwertyuiopas

PsychoJelly      Zaithemaster Alexhans Inaluct

Boksi           

Webadict

Alexhans

Org

Inaluct

bob_smith

Pandarsenic

Cheeetar

Nuke

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 28, 2009, 11:17:53 pm

I vote for Psyco Jelly. I mean, really, man?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: webadict on March 28, 2009, 11:40:11 pm

He has a point. I won't vote for him yet, but I will FoS him until it's fixed.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Org on March 29, 2009, 08:53:34 am

I have to go with Pyscho Jelly.

OMGUS votes are not something to do.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 29, 2009, 01:11:55 pm

Update on the vote list:

Quote

Penguinofhonor

Zaithemaster       Psyco jelly

Qwertyuiopas

PsychoJelly      Zaithemaster Alexhans Inaluct Pandarsenic Org

Boksi           

Webadict

Alexhans

Org

Inaluct

bob_smith

Pandarsenic

Cheeetar

Nuke

The day is ending in about 3 hours, which is 5:00 pm Eastern roughly.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Psyco Jelly on March 29, 2009, 01:37:47 pm

I withdraw my vote.

You want to kill me? I encourage you not to be so rash in your decision. You may find a use for me, as something other than fodder. It will only detriment you to kill me.

I am for the town.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: penguinofhonor on March 29, 2009, 03:27:50 pm

Gah. Psyco Jelly is pro-town. Believe me.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 29, 2009, 03:33:18 pm

Unvote.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Org on March 29, 2009, 03:42:56 pm

How can we be sure?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 29, 2009, 03:45:29 pm

penguinofhonor's certainty indicates that one of them may be a cop and the other may be the enabler....

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: webadict on March 29, 2009, 04:02:53 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on March 29, 2009, 03:45:29 pm

penguinofhonor's certainty indicates that one of them may be a cop and the other may be the enabler....

Or they may be best friends.

Unvote.

Or they're lying...

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 29, 2009, 04:08:39 pm

Well, certainly Psyco will be investigated by the ordinary cop if he isn't one of those two, right?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 29, 2009, 04:19:16 pm

Quote from: webadict on March 29, 2009, 04:02:53 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on March 29, 2009, 03:45:29 pm

penguinofhonor's certainty indicates that one of them may be a cop and the other may be the enabler....

Or they may be best friends.

Unvote.

Or they're lying...

You didn't vote for anybody Webadict.

I'll be ending the day within the hour, once I've finished the next turn on Peasant Adventure.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: webadict on March 29, 2009, 04:25:23 pm

Wow.

I've been working all day (And by that I mean four hours...), so I'm out of it... Mostly because of the hour walk back to my dorm.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 29, 2009, 05:00:46 pm

Day end!

Pandar's unvote wasn't highlighted, but I'll accept it anyway, please be sure to highlight this stuff. I don't want to chastise you guys.

Today's vote tally:

Quote

Penguinofhonor

Zaithemaster

Qwertyuiopas

PsychoJelly      Zaithemaster Alexhans Inaluct Org

Boksi           

Webadict

Alexhans

Org

Inaluct

bob_smith

Pandarsenic

Cheeetar

Nuke

As the sun sets, the suspicion thickens, and the small bunch that voted have come to a conclusion. Alexhans, Inaluct, and Org gang up on Psyco Jelly, pinning him to the ground. They hold his arms and legs down as Zaithemaster rummages through an old closet and finds a stray golf club that belongs to old man ChaoticJosh. Zaithemaster places his heel on Psyco's forehead as he takes his aim, then THWACK THWACK THWACK, smashes Psyco's skull to bits with several swings of the 5 iron.

Psyco now lays upon the floor, dead. Pandar, who had reconsidered at the last moment, laments to find a mortuary built into the manor, with room for 13 people.

The group carries Psyco's body (and the bits of his skull) to the mortuary and place him there.

Each member of the party then finds there own room, and rest for the night.

The night will end once everyone's sent me there night actions, or until tomorrow or something.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! First Night!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 30, 2009, 06:23:32 pm

Everyone gets up in the morning and meet in the main hall. Everyone is surprised to find Psyco Jelly has returned from the dead, and groggily wanders out of the mortuary. However, two people are not amongst you, Webadict and Penguinofhonor.

Hurriedly, the entire group rushes back upstairs only to find both dead, laying on the floor in their rooms.

The players today:

Quote

Penguinofhonor *dead*
Zaithemaster
Qwertyuiopas
PsychoJelly
Boksi
Webadict *dead*
Alexhans
Org
Inaluct
bob_smith
Pandarsenic
Cheeetar
Nuke

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! First Night!
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 30, 2009, 07:49:37 pm

So... no revelation of alignment or roles on death, since people can be revived, I guess?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! First Night!
Post by: bob_smith on March 30, 2009, 08:24:32 pm

Quote from: chaoticjosh on March 26, 2009, 06:59:15 pm

This particular Mafia has the additional rule that the roles of dead players are NOT revealed, not to the populace and not to the killer. Only Investigaters can determine the roles of the dead.

Yup. Right now, I'd guess that Penguinofhonor was town aligned cause he vouched for Psyco Jelly, but I dunno. Ive noticed that Qwertyuiopas only posted once, to say he's a townie, I point my FoS at Qwertyuiopas.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! First Night!
Post by: inaluct on March 30, 2009, 08:44:06 pm

Did webadict do anything? We might be able to find out if the mafia had a motive.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! First Night!
Post by: Cheeetar on March 30, 2009, 09:12:12 pm

Quote from: inaluct on March 30, 2009, 08:44:06 pm

Did webadict do anything? We might be able to find out if the mafia had a motive.

He said he was a townie, he FoSed Boksi, he FoSed Psyco Jelly, he unvoted for penguinofhonor (despite the fact he never originally voted for penguinofhonor).

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! First Night!
Post by: bob_smith on March 30, 2009, 09:45:38 pm

Quote from: Cheeetar on March 30, 2009, 09:12:12 pm

Quote from: inaluct on March 30, 2009, 08:44:06 pm

Did webadict do anything? We might be able to find out if the mafia had a motive.

He said he was a townie, he FoSed Boksi, he FoSed Psyco Jelly, he unvoted for penguinofhonor (despite the fact he never originally voted for penguinofhonor).

Actually I'm pretty sure he unvoted Psyco Jelly, not realizing he had only FoSed him. He also mentioned the Lovecraftian Horror and its insanity powers.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! First Night!
Post by: Cheeetar on March 30, 2009, 09:56:39 pm

Quote from: bob_smith on March 30, 2009, 09:45:38 pm

Quote from: Cheeetar on March 30, 2009, 09:12:12 pm

Quote from: inaluct on March 30, 2009, 08:44:06 pm

Did webadict do anything? We might be able to find out if the mafia had a motive.

He said he was a townie, he FoSed Boksi, he FoSed Psyco Jelly, he unvoted for penguinofhonor (despite the fact he never originally voted for penguinofhonor).

Actually I'm pretty sure he unvoted Psyco Jelly, not realizing he had only FoSed him. He also mentioned the Lovecraftian Horror and its insanity powers.

Well, he unvoted while he was quoting Pandarsenic talking about Penguinofhonor.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: inaluct on March 30, 2009, 09:56:51 pm

Well, is the Lovecraftian Horror nightkillable? He might have been it, based on his talking about it's powers.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 30, 2009, 09:59:01 pm

Quote from: inaluct on March 30, 2009, 09:56:51 pm

Well, is the Lovecraftian Horror nightkillable? He might have been it, based on his talking about it's powers.

It is nightkillable, but it can avoid being nightkilled once.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: bob_smith on March 30, 2009, 10:25:07 pm

Does the revivee recieve info about the reviver?
ie. name or title

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 30, 2009, 10:28:32 pm

Nope, they are just told whether or not they are successful.

Situations in which a revive is NOT successful are:

if an amnesiamancer targets you for that night.

if the mind controller targets you for that night.

EDIT: I just reread your post, the reviver receives no info on who they are targeting, and the revivee receives no info on who helped them.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: Psyco Jelly on March 31, 2009, 10:27:52 am

Could someone revive Penguin of Honor tonight, I need him.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: Alexhans on March 31, 2009, 11:14:03 am

Quote from: Psyco Jelly on March 31, 2009, 10:27:52 am

Could someone revive Penguin of Honor tonight, I need him.

???

Any one has any ideas on who the enemy can be?  I mean the lovecraftian horror and the other anti town reviver role....?

I hate no flip mafias....  :(

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: penguinofhonor on March 31, 2009, 03:10:03 pm

A bowl of alphabet soup lies in the middle of whatever room we're in, used for ghosts to communicate with the living.

It forms the words "Where are you, crazy detective guy? We need info."

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: Zai on March 31, 2009, 06:11:58 pm

Dead people don't talk. That's cheating. And that's a no-no.

But I find it odd that you (penguinofhonor) say "crazy detective guy." I take this to mean that you have knowledge of the Cop and/or AMD being crazy already. Meaning that they have already investigated the Lovecraftian Horror. So I must wonder why you would say this. Because it suggests to me that either you are the Lovecraftian Horror, or you know who the Lovecraftian Horror is.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: penguinofhonor on March 31, 2009, 09:25:08 pm

The soup forms the words, "Oh, I forgot that the Lovecraftian Horror can make people go crazy. I just use that word too much. Also you can't yell at me for talking because you're accusing me now."

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: Zai on March 31, 2009, 09:49:30 pm

Dude. Seriously. Talking while dead is cheating. Just wait until you are revived (if you ever are) to talk again. Dead people talking just hurts the game. Unless, of course, that is a game mechanic, which it is not in this case. But in this game, there is a possibility (2 roles have this ability) that you can be revived; just wait until you are to talk again. Until then, just follow along silently.

But for now, I'll take you for your (undead) word that you were merely using a random adjective, and meant nothing else by it.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 31, 2009, 09:54:31 pm

Yeah PoH, no more talking, or I'll incinerate your body and make it impossible for you to revive.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: inaluct on March 31, 2009, 10:12:43 pm

Someone, eat the soup.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: Cheeetar on March 31, 2009, 10:27:35 pm

Quote from: inaluct on March 31, 2009, 10:12:43 pm

Someone, eat the soup.

Yoink. *NOM NOM NOM*

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: webadict on March 31, 2009, 11:01:29 pm

Quote from: penguinofhonor on March 31, 2009, 09:25:08 pm

The soup forms the words, "Oh, I forgot that the Lovecraftian Horror can make people go crazy. I just use that word too much. Also you can't yell at me for talking because you're accusing me now."

*webadict's ghost pulls penguinofhonor back into the ground.*

"I'll keep him dead, people!"

*webadict then goes back underground*

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 01, 2009, 06:46:29 pm

I don't think anyone voted for anyone...

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: webadict on April 01, 2009, 07:01:35 pm

Quote from: chaoticjosh on April 01, 2009, 06:46:29 pm

I don't think anyone voted for anyone...

You guys suck!

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: Zai on April 02, 2009, 04:21:26 pm

Alright. I still believe Psyco and PoH to be anti-town. I'll vote Psyco again until I'm provided with a logical argument as to why he couldn't be. Mafia members know each other too, after all.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: Org on April 02, 2009, 04:22:08 pm

Lets see his defense

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 02, 2009, 04:43:32 pm

I'll extend this into tomorrow, to give you guys some more time.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 02, 2009, 04:46:57 pm

Psyco Jelly as well for me.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: bob_smith on April 03, 2009, 09:14:34 am

I vote Qwertyuiopas. He hasn't posted since the first day, when he posted once.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: Psyco Jelly on April 03, 2009, 10:26:47 am

I'll Abstain since there is no good reason to vote right now.

Zaithemaster, you could wait until I get night killed. I'm not mafia. Inspect me if you must.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 03, 2009, 03:13:55 pm

meh... we DO suck... But this is what happens when you combine the bay12games mafia (with fast arguments and short days) and no-flip...  We always heavyly rely on the roles... But now there's so much roles out there with so many things that could go wrong that we don't know what to do...

I go with Psyco as well

It will be funny if he is back again tomorrow.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 03, 2009, 03:26:16 pm

I've been putting more thought into this, and have come to the conclusion this is a worse idea than I had originally imagined. If no one is enjoying this, then I'll shut this down.

Otherwise, I'll just continue with the next night.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: Servant Corps on April 03, 2009, 03:29:22 pm

Are you crazy? This is awesome. I have been observing the game, and I want to see it continue.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 03, 2009, 03:35:28 pm

Quote from: chaoticjosh on April 03, 2009, 03:26:16 pm

I've been putting more thought into this, and have come to the conclusion this is a worse idea than I had originally imagined. If no one is enjoying this, then I'll shut this down.

Otherwise, I'll just continue with the next night.

No... Im not saying we arent enjoying it... Maybe im not very much... but only because Im really busy right now and dont have much time to think or post in this games. 
  What Im saying is that everyone is really lost and don't know where to begin with... my thoughts are that maybe next time an open game would be better.
  But please... Lets finish it so we can see if how it went later and have more experience for future mafia modifications.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: Zai on April 03, 2009, 04:10:23 pm

I'm enjoying this game so far, Josh. Don't end it prematurely.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: qwertyuiopas on April 03, 2009, 04:24:59 pm

Yeah, I just keep forgetting to post here...

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 03, 2009, 04:31:28 pm

Alright, I was just taking the inactivity a little too personal.

Votes:

Quote

Penguinofhonor

Zaithemaster       

Qwertyuiopas        Bob_smith

PsychoJelly   Zaithemaster Pandarsenic Alexhans

Boksi           

Webadict

Alexhans

Org

Inaluct

bob_smith

Pandarsenic

Cheeetar

Nuke

Abstain            Psyco Jelly

Taking another vote, Zai and Pandar gang up on Psyco Jelly, belting and pummeling him, until he lies beaten and bruised on the ground. Alexhans takes an old medieval axe from above the mantle and with a swift strike lops Psyco's head off!

They group once again carries his body off to the mortuary.

Alright guys, send in your night actions!

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 07, 2009, 07:30:41 pm

Everyone meets up in the main hall as day three begins. Webadict is seen drowsily exiting the mortuary and joins up with everyone.

However, Zaithemaster and Inaluct are not in attendance.

You explore the house, and find Inaluct in the grand kitchen, a knife through his heart. You find Zaithemaster in his room, dead from incredible damage to his throat.

Day 3 begins!

I should remind all deceased players to NOT TALK! I will remove you from the game if this rule is broken.

Also, sorry for the unusually long night.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: webadict on April 07, 2009, 08:16:30 pm

So... Hi everybody!

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Second Day!
Post by: Org on April 07, 2009, 08:17:25 pm

Hey.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 07, 2009, 09:27:09 pm

Quote from: chaoticjosh on April 07, 2009, 07:30:41 pm

Everyone meets up in the main hall as day three begins. Webadict is seen drowsily exiting the mortuary and joins up with everyone.
However, Zaithemaster and Inaluct are not in attendance.

You explore the house, and find Inaluct in the grand kitchen, a knife through his heart. You find Zaithemaster in his room, dead from incredible damage to his throat.

Day 3 begins!

I should remind all deceased players to NOT TALK! I will remove you from the game if this rule is broken.

Also, sorry for the unusually long night.

What does that mean??? The bolded part...
Vote Webadict

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Org on April 07, 2009, 09:31:08 pm

He comes back to life...

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 07, 2009, 09:35:32 pm

Quote from: Org on April 07, 2009, 09:31:08 pm

He comes back to life...

when was he dead??? and I correct myself... vote webadict.... You'll now soon enough why...

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Org on April 07, 2009, 09:41:09 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 07, 2009, 09:35:32 pm

Quote from: Org on April 07, 2009, 09:31:08 pm

He comes back to life...

I think he died night 1?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 07, 2009, 09:43:48 pm

oh... right... he did... Anyway... you'll know soon enough...  when chaos posts...

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: inaluct on April 07, 2009, 09:44:35 pm

Someone revive poor inaluct! :(

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Org on April 07, 2009, 09:45:02 pm

Chaos?

PURGE THE UNCLEAN!
FOR THE EMPEROR!

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 07, 2009, 09:51:25 pm

Quote from: inaluct on April 07, 2009, 09:44:35 pm

Someone revive poor inaluct! :(

No posting whilst dead Inaluct, this is gonna be your last warning.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 07, 2009, 09:58:11 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 07, 2009, 09:26:29 pm

I'll use my day investigation on inalucts body...

As the group discusses in the main hall, Alexhans goes into the Grand Kitchen before Inaluct's body is moved or any of the evidence tampered with. He examines the scene for but a moment before it becomes clear to him.

"AHHA!" He exclaims, Alexhans calls everyone into the grand kitchen.

"Alright everyone, I will now deduce sir Inaluct's identity and his killer! As you can clearly see, by the almost odd garlicky and decaying smell of his body, this man had odd bathing habits, and the only profession in the world that involves bathing in blood and garlic is the necromancer! Now as you can clearly see, from the unusual pattern of the blood on the floor, that almost indistinguisable footprints were left, that the normal person can't see, but to a trained and talented detective like I, are clear as day! I can tell, it was Bob_smith that killed Inaluct!"

The crowd stands in awe. Certainly only a Master Detective could have deduced this!

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 07, 2009, 10:02:42 pm

and I discovered that webadict is the criminal mastermind too.  Thank you, thank you...  ;D  (I'm not arrogant... I'm perfect  :))

Let's lynch webadict now.

the necro is down!!!  Cheers to bob_Smith.

Title: !
Post by: Org on April 07, 2009, 10:04:17 pm

Wait.
The necro is dead! YAY!
Who was it? It was Inaluct. Okay, sorry. Confusing post.
And web is the assassin?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: bob_smith on April 07, 2009, 10:10:17 pm

Notice there is no killer role on the townie side....

But... Isn't that impossible...
unless the mafia doesn't know the necromancer... Do they?

Would the master detective have said he couldn't deduce the identity if it were the Criminal Mastermind, or does he just say a random person?
What about with the Lovecrafian Horror?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 07, 2009, 10:12:35 pm

there's the Situational Mind Controller... I'll think about it...
He can target me tonight so I should be protected or something

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 07, 2009, 10:23:04 pm

If i had encountered the Lovecraftian Horror I would:

Quote

any detective investigating him is given the "townie" result and the investigator in question goes insane, and any person they investigate after that gives them the opposite answer of what they'd normally get. They are not told they are insane

Is there an opposite to criminal mastermind???
I investigated Cheeetar yesterday and he looked town...

Can someone tell if this is correct?  Any more facts?
Penguinofhonor - dead night 1
Zaithemaster - dead night 2
Qwertyuiopas
PsychoJelly - lynched day 1, revived, lynched day 2,
Boksi
Webadict   - dead night 1 and revived.  Criminal Mastermind according to my investigation
Alexhans   - Arrogant Master Dedective.
Org       
Inaluct    -  dead night 2 Necromancer
bob_smith
Pandarsenic
Cheeetar   -  I checked him and found him town.
Nuke

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: webadict on April 07, 2009, 10:43:11 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 07, 2009, 10:02:42 pm

and I discovered that webadict is the criminal mastermind too.  Thank you, thank you...  ;D  (I'm not arrogant... I'm perfect  :))

Let's lynch webadict now.

the necro is down!!!  Cheers to bob_Smith.

Well.. two things are wrong with that:

One, I'm not the Criminal Mastermind. Nor is there anyway for me to prove it.

Two, you're stupid. Now, we can either have the White Mage waste their turn each night protecting you while the Situational Mind Controller takes over you to figure out who's their enemy. This also means you've just wasted the White Mage's abilities.

Although, I guess the White Mage is free to contact you now. Of course, you can't really trust any of them until they're identified, so good luck with that, since you'll state their occupation out loud.

I can't prove anything, now can I?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 07, 2009, 10:49:08 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 07, 2009, 10:43:11 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 07, 2009, 10:02:42 pm

and I discovered that webadict is the criminal mastermind too.  Thank you, thank you...  ;D  (I'm not arrogant... I'm perfect  :))

Let's lynch webadict now.

the necro is down!!!  Cheers to bob_Smith.

Well.. two things are wrong with that:

One, I'm not the Criminal Mastermind. Nor is there anyway for me to prove it.

Two, you're stupid. Now, we can either have the White Mage waste their turn each night protecting you while the Situational Mind Controller takes over you to figure out who's their enemy. This also means you've just wasted the White Mage's abilities.

Although, I guess the White Mage is free to contact you now. Of course, you can't really trust any of them until they're identified, so good luck with that, since you'll state their occupation out loud.

I can't prove anything, now can I?

no web... You failed in proving anything.  I'm sorry, you had to be scum sometime... It was probable... I think it is your first time in all bay12games mafias...
Thanks for the free insult.  That makes you scummier.  You try to make me not trust the white mage... weak.  I will never state the white mage out loud.  DOn't try to make them scared of me.  And anyway... the mage can do whatever he choses... Protect me or revive someone... I'd prefer protection but what the hell... I still have to see if it would save me against the third party role...

Everyone please let's have mercy of Web and not make his agony longer...

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: bob_smith on April 07, 2009, 10:52:23 pm

This highly depends on if the mafia know all other mafia or not.
Assuming they do, the Lovecraftian Horror must have killed Inaluct.
If you go can't go insane from investigating after the Horror, then Cheetar is the Horror (Meaning the white mage was killed) if I am considered innocent. (I am innocent) Otherwise I am the Horror, and should be lynched.

Considering that going insane makes everyone look the opposite of their role, that would mean the white mage was killed and (if he investigated Cheetar on the first day) he found the AMD, but he can't because he is the AMD. (Oops, just realized he investigated Cheetar yesterday)
But, if he investigated Cheetar yesterday, then the Criminal mastermind would still be correct.
Therefore it could be Cheetar if he was investigated after Webadict.

Of course, if he can go insane from looking at the victim, then the Horror could be anyone.

If Mafia do not know each other, and the Necromancer's revival was just random, then the Webadict could have killed the Necroer, or AMD is insane and either Cheetar or I are to blame.


I hope you guys can read that and trust me. I am a townie.
Also, Chaoticjosh, answer whether mafia know each other, if you go insane from just looking at the dead body of the killed.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 07, 2009, 10:57:48 pm

mmm bob... You should've been happy for killing Inaluct as he was the necro... But I guess that means you're the Lovecraftian Horror.  (I had already thought about it and believed it was that way... just waiting for you to post, I'm awesome, I'm beatifull, not at all arrogant :))

State your case in a more tidy fashion because I see a lot of mess in your last one.  it was just WIFOM for me... You probably can't convince me but you may convince others.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 07, 2009, 11:00:14 pm

Quote from: bob_smith on April 07, 2009, 10:52:23 pm

I hope you guys can read that and trust me. I am a townie.
Also, Chaoticjosh, answer whether mafia know each other, if you go insane from just looking at the dead body of the killed.

1Q)Do the mafia know eachother?
1A) If I haven't made it clear already, yes, they do.

2Q)Is it possible to go insane from looking at the victims of the LCH?
2A)No, only from investigating him or his body directly.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: webadict on April 07, 2009, 11:02:16 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 07, 2009, 10:49:08 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 07, 2009, 10:43:11 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 07, 2009, 10:02:42 pm

and I discovered that webadict is the criminal mastermind too.  Thank you, thank you...  ;D  (I'm not arrogant... I'm perfect  :))

Let's lynch webadict now.

the necro is down!!!  Cheers to bob_Smith.

Well.. two things are wrong with that:

One, I'm not the Criminal Mastermind. Nor is there anyway for me to prove it.

Two, you're stupid. Now, we can either have the White Mage waste their turn each night protecting you while the Situational Mind Controller takes over you to figure out who's their enemy. This also means you've just wasted the White Mage's abilities.

Although, I guess the White Mage is free to contact you now. Of course, you can't really trust any of them until they're identified, so good luck with that, since you'll state their occupation out loud.

I can't prove anything, now can I?

no web... You failed in proving anything.  I'm sorry, you had to be scum sometime... It was probable... I think it is your first time in all bay12games mafias...
Thanks for the free insult.  That makes you scummier.  You try to make me not trust the white mage... weak.  I will never state the white mage out loud.  DOn't try to make them scared of me.  And anyway... the mage can do whatever he choses... Protect me or revive someone... I'd prefer protection but what the hell... I still have to see if it would save me against the third party role...

Everyone please let's have mercy of Web and not make his agony longer...

I'm not saying you'll say his name out loud, but now you've just:

1) Lessened the probability of saving someone during the night.
2) Increased the probability of finding the White Mage for the Mafia.
3) If there are more than one Mage talking to you, then you'll have to scan one of them... I'm not trying to scare them, but rather warn them.

Unfortunately, you're right Alexhans. I never said I proved anything. I merely pointed things out for the Town. Unfortunately, since I'm powerless, there's not much I can do.

Also, your mafia assumption is wrong. I had the same probability as anyone else. I believe that's called the Gambler's Fallacy. Also, I've been Mafia plenty of times.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: bob_smith on April 07, 2009, 11:20:16 pm

I'll try to make this as clear as possible, as my last post was messy...
Facts - Either way, All of these are true:

• LCH or Criminal Mastermind must have killed Inaluct.
• Alexhans is either insane through looking at Cheetar, the LCH, or I am the LCH.
• Webadict is the Criminal Mastermind, found on the first day.

Death Results
If Alexhans is insane through looking at Cheetar either:

• Cheetar killed the White Mage, Inaluct.
• Webadict killed the White Mage, Inaluct.

If I am the LCH, then I killed the Necromancer, Inaluct.


Question: Does the Master Detective say a random name if the Criminal Mastermind killed the victim?
If the answer to this question is no, then only Cheetar or I could have killed Inaluct.

Edit: If killing still continues after Webadict and I are dead, kill Cheetar. I know he's the LCH.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 07, 2009, 11:24:19 pm

Quote from: bob_smith on April 07, 2009, 11:20:16 pm

Question: Does the Master Detective say a random name if the Criminal Mastermind killed the victim?

Any person killed by the CM is done in such a way as to leave NO evidence whatsoever. The AMD, if wanting to investigate this person, instead of telling everyone, would admit defeat and his action is made defunct.

In other words, no.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: bob_smith on April 07, 2009, 11:32:10 pm

'Nother Question, my calculations must be off. If Alexhans was insane, then he would see both the killer, and the victim's profession opposite, correct?

Edit: Also, what are the opposites of Cop Enabler, Amnesiamancer, and Alarmomancer?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 07, 2009, 11:36:25 pm

Quote from: bob_smith on April 07, 2009, 11:32:10 pm

'Nother Question, my calculations must be off. If Alexhans was insane, then he would see both the killer, and the victim's profession opposite, correct?

Well, it's hard to determine "opposite" because not everyone has a clear opposite, I should change the wording to "inaccurate" or "false", because it better describes what you're saying.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: bob_smith on April 07, 2009, 11:51:19 pm

Question: If Alexhans was insane, would he see both the killer's name and victim's profession inaccurately?
If not, which one would be false?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 07, 2009, 11:57:06 pm

Quote from: bob_smith on April 07, 2009, 11:51:19 pm

Question: If Alexhans was insane, would he see both the killer's name and victim's profession inaccurately?
If not, which one would be false?

In the case of insanity, as you've described, yes, the AMD is given entirely incorrect information, on whole.

The only time this isn't the case would be if he were looking at the LCH, where he is always given the "townie" result, regardless of sanity.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Jackrabbit on April 07, 2009, 11:59:12 pm

Are you running another round after this? I'm in if so.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: bob_smith on April 08, 2009, 12:17:47 am

Could the Cop Enabler, Amnesiamancer, or Alarmomancer be seen by an insane AMD as a Necromancer?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 08, 2009, 12:26:31 am

Quote from: bob_smith on April 08, 2009, 12:17:47 am

Could the Cop Enabler, Amnesiamancer, or Alarmomancer be seen by an insane AMD as a Necromancer?

Generally, an insane AMD could see anyone as any other member of any faction, except the correct one.

There is a very weird loophole in the rules though pertaining to this, and you get a cookie if you can spot it.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 08, 2009, 12:40:41 am

Quote from: chaoticjosh on April 08, 2009, 12:26:31 am

Quote from: bob_smith on April 08, 2009, 12:17:47 am

Could the Cop Enabler, Amnesiamancer, or Alarmomancer be seen by an insane AMD as a Necromancer?

Generally, an insane AMD could see anyone as any other member of any faction, except the correct one.

There is a very weird loophole in the rules though pertaining to this, and you get a cookie if you can spot it.

Is it that there's a chance the person he scans could either give a result he's gotten before or show up as the Lovecraftian Horror?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 08, 2009, 12:43:15 am

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 08, 2009, 12:40:41 am

Quote from: chaoticjosh on April 08, 2009, 12:26:31 am

Quote from: bob_smith on April 08, 2009, 12:17:47 am

Could the Cop Enabler, Amnesiamancer, or Alarmomancer be seen by an insane AMD as a Necromancer?

Generally, an insane AMD could see anyone as any other member of any faction, except the correct one.

There is a very weird loophole in the rules though pertaining to this, and you get a cookie if you can spot it.

Is it that there's a chance the person he scans could either give a result he's gotten before or show up as the Lovecraftian Horror?

He could never deduce that someone's the LCH, because it contradicts the rules given, but yes, he could get a result he's gotten before.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 08, 2009, 12:45:46 am

Well, you were saying there's a weird loophole, and you said that he could see the target as ANY member of ANY faction, meaning that the inherently impossible result of seeing someone as a Lovecraftian Horror SHOULD be possible.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 08, 2009, 12:52:23 am

Don't take my absent-mindedness at face value.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 08, 2009, 12:55:08 am

Quote from: chaoticjosh on April 08, 2009, 12:43:15 am

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 08, 2009, 12:40:41 am

Quote from: chaoticjosh on April 08, 2009, 12:26:31 am

Quote from: bob_smith on April 08, 2009, 12:17:47 am

Could the Cop Enabler, Amnesiamancer, or Alarmomancer be seen by an insane AMD as a Necromancer?

Generally, an insane AMD could see anyone as any other member of any faction, except the correct one.

There is a very weird loophole in the rules though pertaining to this, and you get a cookie if you can spot it.

Is it that there's a chance the person he scans could either give a result he's gotten before or show up as the Lovecraftian Horror?

He could never deduce that someone's the LCH, because it contradicts the rules given, but yes, he could get a result he's gotten before.

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 08, 2009, 12:45:46 am

Well, you were saying there's a weird loophole, and you said that he could see the target as ANY member of ANY faction, meaning that the inherently impossible result of seeing someone as a Lovecraftian Horror SHOULD be possible.

Quote from: chaoticjosh on April 08, 2009, 12:52:23 am

Don't take my absent-mindedness at face value.

THIS IS CONFUSINGS ME. ARGHBLBLBL.

Wait, so guys, fill me in... how do we know the White Mage is dead and webadict is the Criminal Mastermind again?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: bob_smith on April 08, 2009, 01:07:19 am

Alexhans is the AMD, it was revealed earlier. He said he found Webadict was the Criminal Mastermind, implying it was on the first day. Alexhans then searched Cheetar, coming up with townie.

If Cheetar made Alexhans go insane by being the Lovecraftian Horror, the victim could be anyone except a person with a mafia role.
Otherwise, I killed Inaluct, who would be the Necromancer, making me the LCH.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Cheeetar on April 08, 2009, 01:17:09 am

How do we know that Webadict is not the LCH and-
How do we know Inaluct is the White Mage?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: bob_smith on April 08, 2009, 01:31:50 am

Quote from: Cheeetar on April 08, 2009, 01:17:09 am

How do we know that Webadict is not the LCH and-
How do we know Inaluct is the White Mage?

1. You need to trust Alexhans, the AMD.
2. He may or may not be, I forgot to ask a question first.

There are 3 possiblities for how Inaluct died.

• You, Cheetar first made Alexhans insane from the inspection, then you killed Inaluct, who could be anybody except for a Mafia member.
• You, Cheetar made Alexhans insane, then Webadict killed Inaluct, who could be anybody except a Mafia member.
• I killed Inaluct, and Alexhans deduced both our positions correctly.

I'm assuming:

• the CM could have been changed by insanity
• there is only one CM and LCH, with no other killers

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 08, 2009, 01:51:03 am

Oh, hey, the AMD has a Cop investigation at night. I hadn't realized that.

Also, I've been contacted by the Cop Enabler; he wants us to revive Zaithemaster, the Cop.

I've been passed along this information:

1) Zaithemaster is the Cop
2) penguingofhonor is the mind controller.
3) Psyco Jelly is Pro-Town

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: webadict on April 08, 2009, 10:11:18 am

Hey, everybody.

I suppose I can't really deny my duplicitous nature as Criminal Mastermind.

So, guess what! I plan to make the Town lose with every ounce of my body. You, Town, will never win. Wanna know why?

If you would, please, Situational Mind Controller and Lovecraftian Horror, contact me. I will simply have you guys help us defeat the Town. What do you say? We can tie it all up, can't we?

Hehehehehe... Let's all work together, Mafia and Third Party, to defeat the Town. Sure, you don't have to trust me, but I promise neither to release your name nor to kill you if you join us. It's better that way, isn't it?

Stop us now, Town.

Also, I vote webadict. He's obviously Mafia. He's also a frickin' genius.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Org on April 08, 2009, 10:17:06 am

Well.
Looks like suicide really.
Webadict

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: webadict on April 08, 2009, 10:19:13 am

Quote from: Org on April 08, 2009, 10:17:06 am

Well.
Looks like suicide really.
Webadict

No one truly sees what I'm doing?

I'd explain it, but I think that's a little TOO evil genius-y. So, I'll let you guys figure it out.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 01:00:47 pm

Well... first of all...
Sorry about last night... I was drunk with arrogance... ;) 
No really I was really tired and decided to just go with it and do whatever I felt like.
Now I'll return to my usual self and try to make the best out of this good prospect.
I still don't like all this fishing by webadict to try to guess my situation regarding the white mage... I said the thing about protecting me to see how they would react.

Quote from: webadict on April 07, 2009, 11:02:16 pm

1) Lessened the probability of saving someone during the night.
2) Increased the probability of finding the White Mage for the Mafia.
3) If there are more than one Mage talking to you, then you'll have to scan one of them... I'm not trying to scare them, but rather warn them.

mmm...nevertheless I get the feeling that you ARE trying to scare the White Mage...

Quote from: webadict on April 07, 2009, 11:02:16 pm

Also, your mafia assumption is wrong. I had the same probability as anyone else. I believe that's called the Gambler's Fallacy. Also, I've been Mafia plenty of times.

I know web... I've read the wiki.  That's why I said it.  It's not a proof or anything.  Just a comment.  In wich bay12games were you scum??? I don't recall any I played with you and you were scum... (Don't talk about ongoing games of course)

Quote from: bob_smith on April 07, 2009, 11:20:16 pm

I'll try to make this as clear as possible, as my last post was messy...
Facts - Either way, All of these are true:

• LCH or Criminal Mastermind must have killed Inaluct.
• Alexhans is either insane through looking at Cheetar, the LCH, or I am the LCH.
• Webadict is the Criminal Mastermind, found on the first day.

Death Results
If Alexhans is insane through looking at Cheetar either:

• Cheetar killed the White Mage, Inaluct.
• Webadict killed the White Mage, Inaluct.

If I am the LCH, then I killed the Necromancer, Inaluct.


Question: Does the Master Detective say a random name if the Criminal Mastermind killed the victim?
If the answer to this question is no, then only Cheetar or I could have killed Inaluct.

Edit: If killing still continues after Webadict and I are dead, kill Cheetar. I know he's the LCH.

I investigated webadict last night.  So if your theory of LH being Cheeetar is correct (I would be so unlucky) then webadict should be the opposite of the criminal mastermind. But he claims he has nothing to prove... That is like a townie claim. Therefore I find it scummy.

Quote from: chaoticjosh on April 07, 2009, 11:36:25 pm

Quote from: bob_smith on April 07, 2009, 11:32:10 pm

'Nother Question, my calculations must be off. If Alexhans was insane, then he would see both the killer, and the victim's profession opposite, correct?

Well, it's hard to determine "opposite" because not everyone has a clear opposite, I should change the wording to "inaccurate" or "false", because it better describes what you're saying.

And now you tell me this!!!

Quote from: chaoticjosh on April 08, 2009, 12:26:31 am

Quote from: bob_smith on April 08, 2009, 12:17:47 am

Could the Cop Enabler, Amnesiamancer, or Alarmomancer be seen by an insane AMD as a Necromancer?

Generally, an insane AMD could see anyone as any other member of any faction, except the correct one.

There is a very weird loophole in the rules though pertaining to this, and you get a cookie if you can spot it.

mmm...this is practically an admission that I am insane.  Crap.  Let's think about the possibilities of that loophole... maybe it's the next one on the list... or something like that... But that's not really weird.
I knew my role sucked....  I investigated Cheeetar because he mentioned the LH... and maybe it was because he wanted to talk about it driving attention from himself... :(

Quote from: webadict on April 08, 2009, 10:19:13 am

Quote from: Org on April 08, 2009, 10:17:06 am

Well.
Looks like suicide really.
Webadict

No one truly sees what I'm doing?

I'd explain it, but I think that's a little TOO evil genius-y. So, I'll let you guys figure it out.

dude... the LH needs everyone else but him to die.  He will not contact you.


Night 1:  I Investigate Cheeetar.   Town.
Night 2: I investigate Webadict.  Criminal Master
Day 2:  I investigate inaluct's body.  Necromancer.   killed by bob. 

If cheetar is alive we need to hear from him.
unvote webadict for now

anyway... I still consider web a useful lynch because he hasn't claim any PR.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: NUKE9.13 on April 08, 2009, 01:48:46 pm

Well well well webadict, looks like you were caught with your pants down.
As it were.
Now, seeing as webadict has apparently roleclaimed CM, I think that the whole 'ZOMG AMD IS INSANE' thing is over. Unless inaluct was the LCH...
Well, whatever.

Aaaanyway, die webadict die
...
Wait, alexhans, why did you unvote webadict? We know who he is, and we know that either:
the necromancer is dead,
OR, the LCH is dead.
If webadict comes walking out of the crypt again, then we'll have our answer, and we know that you're cuu-koo. If he doesn't, then yeah, we know pretty much the same as we know now. Win(mafia dead)+(Win (we know more)/neutral (we know the same as we know now))

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 01:52:38 pm

I want to hear from Cheeetar and others before lynching anyone.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: webadict on April 08, 2009, 02:07:57 pm

Well... in a Werewolf game I was scum. In Pirate Mafia I was scum... Umm... Oh! Last Paranormal Game I was definitely scum.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: bob_smith on April 08, 2009, 05:35:36 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 01:00:47 pm

I investigated webadict last night.  So if your theory of LH being Cheeetar is correct (I would be so unlucky) then webadict should be the opposite of the criminal mastermind. But he claims he has nothing to prove... That is like a townie claim. Therefore I find it scummy.

This screws what I've been thinking. I need to know who you investigated first, Cheetar or Webadict, and what the exact wording was (but don't quote chaoticjosh, just use "s).

Quote from: webadict on April 07, 2009, 11:05:44 pm

So... you're the Lovecraftian Horror.

I don't like you, nor do I wish you to win, but I can't do anything to you right now. However, as I am going to die, I would like to form a... truce. Mafia and Lovecraftian Horror. Obviously, I can't do much for you, but I know that us working together is better than not.

Sure, rat me out if you want. But they WILL go for you tomorrow. Unless I help you. We Mafia want the White Mage dead. You want the White Mage dead. As well as the cop too.

Unfortunately, the SMC is our biggest enemy. He knows your identification. He knows my identification. He knows too much.

Therefore, we help you. You help us. We get rid of our enemies. We can always end the game in a tie, right?

I recieved this from Webadict after I was accused. This, and his other post prove that he is the Criminal Mastermind. Also, it is not true that I am the horror.

I vote Webadict.

EDIT: Adding on to my post

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Org on April 08, 2009, 05:40:25 pm

I will unvote for now.

Too much doubt...Although he did confess....

I dont know.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 05:42:40 pm

Quote from: Alexhans

Night 1:  I Investigate Cheeetar.   Town.
Night 2: I investigate Webadict.  Criminal Master
Day 2:  I investigate inaluct's body.  Necromancer.   killed by bob. 

Cheeetar came up as townie.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: webadict on April 08, 2009, 05:44:26 pm

Quote from: bob_smith on April 08, 2009, 05:35:36 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 01:00:47 pm

I investigated webadict last night.  So if your theory of LH being Cheeetar is correct (I would be so unlucky) then webadict should be the opposite of the criminal mastermind. But he claims he has nothing to prove... That is like a townie claim. Therefore I find it scummy.

This screws what I've been thinking. I need to know who you investigated first, Cheetar or Webadict, and what the exact wording was (but don't quote chaoticjosh, just use "s).

He investigated Cheeetar first. He said so. Why does everyone think that Cheeetar is the LCH?

Also, he cannot quote the mod's words. He can paraphrase though.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 05:48:39 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 08, 2009, 05:44:26 pm

Quote from: bob_smith on April 08, 2009, 05:35:36 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 01:00:47 pm

I investigated webadict last night.  So if your theory of LH being Cheeetar is correct (I would be so unlucky) then webadict should be the opposite of the criminal mastermind. But he claims he has nothing to prove... That is like a townie claim. Therefore I find it scummy.

This screws what I've been thinking. I need to know who you investigated first, Cheetar or Webadict, and what the exact wording was (but don't quote chaoticjosh, just use "s).

He investigated Cheeetar first. He said so. Why does everyone think that Cheeetar is the LCH?

dude... if cheetar is not the LCH then you are the criminal mastermind.  Take your pick.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: webadict on April 08, 2009, 05:57:27 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 05:48:39 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 08, 2009, 05:44:26 pm

Quote from: bob_smith on April 08, 2009, 05:35:36 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 01:00:47 pm

I investigated webadict last night.  So if your theory of LH being Cheeetar is correct (I would be so unlucky) then webadict should be the opposite of the criminal mastermind. But he claims he has nothing to prove... That is like a townie claim. Therefore I find it scummy.

This screws what I've been thinking. I need to know who you investigated first, Cheetar or Webadict, and what the exact wording was (but don't quote chaoticjosh, just use "s).

He investigated Cheeetar first. He said so. Why does everyone think that Cheeetar is the LCH?

dude... if cheetar is not the LCH then you are the criminal mastermind.  Take your pick.

Well... yeah, that's true. Or I was under an illusion.

It's just that everyone keeps saying he's the LCH, but I don't know why... I suppose he could've been. I just don't know how you could've picked LCH first turn...

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 06:08:46 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 08, 2009, 05:57:27 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 05:48:39 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 08, 2009, 05:44:26 pm

Quote from: bob_smith on April 08, 2009, 05:35:36 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 01:00:47 pm

I investigated webadict last night.  So if your theory of LH being Cheeetar is correct (I would be so unlucky) then webadict should be the opposite of the criminal mastermind. But he claims he has nothing to prove... That is like a townie claim. Therefore I find it scummy.

This screws what I've been thinking. I need to know who you investigated first, Cheetar or Webadict, and what the exact wording was (but don't quote chaoticjosh, just use "s).

He investigated Cheeetar first. He said so. Why does everyone think that Cheeetar is the LCH?

dude... if cheetar is not the LCH then you are the criminal mastermind.  Take your pick.

Well... yeah, that's true. Or I was under an illusion.

It's just that everyone keeps saying he's the LCH, but I don't know why... I suppose he could've been. I just don't know how you could've picked LCH first turn...

wrong... Illusion works only at night... you're making me more suspicious of you. 
I picked him because he warned against the LCH... No im thinking it was the stupidest motive I've ever had... He had the LCH in mynd because it was him...

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 08, 2009, 06:44:36 pm

I'm noticing webadict hasn't denied bob_smith's claimed PM.

webadict, did you really PM him that or not?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Cheeetar on April 08, 2009, 07:44:29 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 01:52:38 pm

I want to hear from Cheeetar and others before lynching anyone.

I have no idea what is going on.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: webadict on April 08, 2009, 08:22:09 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 06:08:46 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 08, 2009, 05:57:27 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 05:48:39 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 08, 2009, 05:44:26 pm

Quote from: bob_smith on April 08, 2009, 05:35:36 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 01:00:47 pm

I investigated webadict last night.  So if your theory of LH being Cheeetar is correct (I would be so unlucky) then webadict should be the opposite of the criminal mastermind. But he claims he has nothing to prove... That is like a townie claim. Therefore I find it scummy.

This screws what I've been thinking. I need to know who you investigated first, Cheetar or Webadict, and what the exact wording was (but don't quote chaoticjosh, just use "s).

He investigated Cheeetar first. He said so. Why does everyone think that Cheeetar is the LCH?

dude... if cheetar is not the LCH then you are the criminal mastermind.  Take your pick.

Well... yeah, that's true. Or I was under an illusion.

It's just that everyone keeps saying he's the LCH, but I don't know why... I suppose he could've been. I just don't know how you could've picked LCH first turn...

wrong... Illusion works only at night... you're making me more suspicious of you. 
I picked him because he warned against the LCH... No im thinking it was the stupidest motive I've ever had... He had the LCH in mynd because it was him...

Yeah... you investigated me at Night, did you not?

Although, I suppose that is a good reason for Cheeetar.

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 08, 2009, 06:44:36 pm

I'm noticing webadict hasn't denied bob_smith's claimed PM.

webadict, did you really PM him that or not?

I did indeed, to figure out if he was the LCH. I didn't get any concrete evidence, so then it's obvious, isn't it? The AMD is insane. Obviously, I couldn't've done it, because I came up with a role, therefore, Cheeetar is the LCH. Simple as that.

I suppose it doesn't matter now. I'm not really the Mastermind. I was only saying that to find the LCH and the CM. Although, it appears those two have been found, and I can't really find the Mafia with the same trick, because I've already used it.

I'm not Mafia.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 08:46:28 pm

Quote from: Cheeetar on April 08, 2009, 07:44:29 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 01:52:38 pm

I want to hear from Cheeetar and others before lynching anyone.

I have no idea what is going on.

Re-read from the day start then... FoS Cheeetar  Don't act like this.  Is not so much to read, just do it or you will be claiming guilty of the suspicions marking you as Lovecraftian Horror.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Cheeetar on April 08, 2009, 08:47:47 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 08:46:28 pm

Quote from: Cheeetar on April 08, 2009, 07:44:29 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 01:52:38 pm

I want to hear from Cheeetar and others before lynching anyone.

I have no idea what is going on.

Re-read from the day start then... FoS Cheeetar  Don't act like this.  Is not so much to read, just do it or you will be claiming guilty of the suspicions marking you as Lovecraftian Horror.

From what people are saying, it's either Bob_Smith or me that is the LH. So, I vote Bob_Smith.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 08:50:17 pm

Quote from: Cheeetar on April 08, 2009, 08:47:47 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 08:46:28 pm

Quote from: Cheeetar on April 08, 2009, 07:44:29 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 01:52:38 pm

I want to hear from Cheeetar and others before lynching anyone.

I have no idea what is going on.

Re-read from the day start then... FoS Cheeetar  Don't act like this.  Is not so much to read, just do it or you will be claiming guilty of the suspicions marking you as Lovecraftian Horror.

From what people are saying, it's either Bob_Smith or me that is the LH. So, I vote Bob_Smith.

that's all you have to say??  No theories? no proof?  no claim?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Cheeetar on April 08, 2009, 08:52:03 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 08:50:17 pm

Quote from: Cheeetar on April 08, 2009, 08:47:47 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 08:46:28 pm

Quote from: Cheeetar on April 08, 2009, 07:44:29 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 01:52:38 pm

I want to hear from Cheeetar and others before lynching anyone.

I have no idea what is going on.

Re-read from the day start then... FoS Cheeetar  Don't act like this.  Is not so much to read, just do it or you will be claiming guilty of the suspicions marking you as Lovecraftian Horror.

From what people are saying, it's either Bob_Smith or me that is the LH. So, I vote Bob_Smith.

that's all you have to say??  No theories? no proof?  no claim?

No. Bob_Smith himself has said that it is either Bob_Smith or me. What has to be said has already been said.
Edit: I claim Townie.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Org on April 08, 2009, 08:52:53 pm

Cheetar. You.
Are. LHC.

I know this. Gut Feeling.
But you are done for.
CHEEETAR

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Cheeetar on April 08, 2009, 08:54:44 pm

Oh, and by the way, if the killings stop after either I or Bob_Smith are dead, that proves nothing. Because if the killings continued, the one alive would HAVE to be the lovecraftian horror. If I were the lovecraftian horror, I would be trying to keep Bob_Smith alive, so I can continue murdering.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 08:55:07 pm

Org goes always with the consensus... He is flipper the dolphin.  ;D

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Org on April 08, 2009, 08:56:45 pm

Its a gut feeling.

I think I am right.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: bob_smith on April 08, 2009, 08:57:07 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 05:42:40 pm

Quote from: Alexhans

Night 1:  I Investigate Cheeetar.   Town.
Night 2: I investigate Webadict.  Criminal Master
Day 2:  I investigate inaluct's body.  Necromancer.   killed by bob. 

Cheeetar came up as townie.

Just townie, No special powers, EXAMINED FIRST?

Then,

• Cheetar is LCH and Webadict was illusioned. I am a townsperson.
• Cheetar is LCH and Webadict is not who he claims to be, and is the Situational Mind Controller. I am a townsperson.
• Cheetar is a townie. Webadict is the CM. I am LCH and killed Inaluct.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 08, 2009, 10:29:14 pm

Alright, let's tally the votes for today:

Quote

Penguinofhonor *dead* ?Pandarsenic?

Zaithemaster  *dead*

Qwertyuiopas

PsychoJelly *dead*   

Boksi           

Webadict         Webadict  Nuke   bob_smith

Alexhans

Org

Inaluct *dead*

bob_smith           Cheeetar

Pandarsenic

Cheeetar     Org

Nuke

No Lynch

Several oddities, particular, Pandar voting for someone that's already dead, and Webadict voting for himself.

Remember, if it's not red or orange, it doesn't count!

Day three will end sometime tomorrow! Maybe around 5 PM eastern.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 10:31:21 pm

Quote from: chaoticjosh on April 08, 2009, 10:29:14 pm

Alright, let's tally the votes for today:
Several oddities, particular, Pandar voting for someone that's already dead, and Webadict voting for himself.

yeah well... this game is too much mess to know who is alive and who isn't...  :P

And besides... maybe Pandar is trying to do a super lynch that we'll make him need 2 revives to come back...  ;)

anyone has anything to add?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: webadict on April 08, 2009, 10:50:15 pm

Quote from: bob_smith on April 08, 2009, 08:57:07 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 05:42:40 pm

Quote from: Alexhans

Night 1:  I Investigate Cheeetar.   Town.
Night 2: I investigate Webadict.  Criminal Master
Day 2:  I investigate inaluct's body.  Necromancer.   killed by bob. 

Cheeetar came up as townie.

Just townie, No special powers, EXAMINED FIRST?

Then,

• Cheetar is LCH and Webadict was illusioned. I am a townsperson.
• Cheetar is LCH and Webadict is not who he claims to be, and is the Situational Mind Controller. I am a townsperson.
• Cheetar is a townie. Webadict is the CM. I am LCH and killed Inaluct.

That makes no sense. Why are the only possible outcomes for me are being the CM or the SMC?

The Situational Mind Controller portion makes no sense. I'm a Townie, and if the AMD is insanem, then it makes sense why I'd get a Mafia role when investigated.

I believe your list should look something like this:

• Cheetar is Townie and Webadict was illusioned. bob_smith is LCH.
• Cheetar is LCH and Webadict Townie. I am a townsperson.
• Cheetar is Townie. Webadict is the CM. I am LCH and killed Inaluct.

Albeit it is more likely that you are the LCH, I somehow doubt you are, so I suppose I'll vote for Cheeetar.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Cheeetar on April 08, 2009, 10:53:17 pm

Webadict, I think that vote is made purely to get people out of voting for you. You could have voted for Bob_Smith but didn't because people would have called it an OMGUS, and instead voted for me, making it a tie.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: webadict on April 09, 2009, 12:11:34 am

Quote from: Cheeetar on April 08, 2009, 10:53:17 pm

Webadict, I think that vote is made purely to get people out of voting for you. You could have voted for Bob_Smith but didn't because people would have called it an OMGUS, and instead voted for me, making it a tie.

...I didn't because I didn't think he was the LCH. I'm fairly sure you are, because I came up as the CM, when it should've been Townie. The only possible situation where you're safe is if I were illusioned while dead, which isn't a bad a chance as I'd like, but it still could be better.

...Also, noooooo... I voted so everyone would vote for meeeeee...

I could've voted for bob_smith... But I'm more certain you're the LCH...

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 09, 2009, 01:01:29 am

BURN THE CORPSE

I actually wasn't aware that PoH was dead because ordinary townie-ness is kinda... mundane. I haven't been paying close attention.

I'll vote for the probable LCH, Cheeetar.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: NUKE9.13 on April 09, 2009, 04:08:43 am

Waaait, whaaat?
So, webadict is a good guy?
It's possible, I suppose...
We know for sure that alexhans is pro-town, so I'm going to trust his judgement here and unvote

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Cheeetar on April 09, 2009, 04:34:25 am

3 votes for me, 1 vote for Webadict, 1 vote for Bob_Smith.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 09, 2009, 02:02:45 pm

unvote vote Qwertyuiopas...
Cheeetar... If you would be so kind... do the same...
Pandar... web... Let's lynch him.  Trust me.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 09, 2009, 02:10:15 pm

I'll be extending the day a bit, because I have some appointments in RL that need attention.

So, an extra 3 or 4 hours sounds about right.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: webadict on April 09, 2009, 02:10:54 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 09, 2009, 02:02:45 pm

unvote vote Qwertyuiopas...
Cheeetar... If you would be so kind... do the same...
Pandar... web... Let's lynch him.  Trust me.

...?

Ooookay... Unvote

Vote qwertyuiopas?

Why?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 09, 2009, 02:30:39 pm

there's a tie right now... we need to lynch qwerty.   cheeetar... everyone else?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: NUKE9.13 on April 09, 2009, 02:42:18 pm

Alex wtf are you talking aboot?
What has qwertuiopas done?
Qwertuiopas

Is he the SMC? Or the real CM? Or what? I mean, what? Explain, man.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 09, 2009, 03:09:42 pm

Drop vote.

Vote for qwertyuiopas

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 09, 2009, 05:38:15 pm

Alright, Today's done!

The final tally:

Quote

Penguinofhonor *dead*

Zaithemaster  *dead*

Qwertyuiopas         Alexhans  Webadict   Nuke  Pandarsenic

PsychoJelly *dead*   

Boksi           

Webadict          bob_smith

Alexhans

Org

Inaluct *dead*

bob_smith           Cheeetar

Pandarsenic

Cheeetar     Org

Nuke

No Lynch

As the sun sets, the group reaches it's decision. The groups circles about Qwerty who has been snoozing nonchalantly on the main hall's comfy recliner. Taking their time, the group discovers a morbid execution room, full of guillotines, exotic poisons, and various weapons, all brand new. Alexhans strikes Qwerty's sleeping, thoroughly confusing him as Webadict and Nuke grab and by the arms, carry him deep into the manor, to the execution room, force him into a guillotine, and Pandar PULLS THE LEVER! Qwerty's head is cut clean off. They carry his corpse to the mortuary, and go to their rooms for the night.

All roles send in your night actions.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Night!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 10, 2009, 06:01:07 pm

Morning arrives, and everyone convenes in the main hall. Qwertyuiopas has arisen from the grave and joins you, however someone is missing... Pandar!

You go up to his room, and you find Pandar dead on the floor. His face is purple and a towel and an odd can rest on the floor.

The remaining list of players:

Quote

Penguinofhonor *dead*

Zaithemaster  *dead*

Qwertyuiopas

PsychoJelly *dead*   

Boksi           

Webadict     

Alexhans

Org

Inaluct *dead*

bob_smith       

Pandarsenic *dead*

Cheeetar

Nuke

No Lynch

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Night!
Post by: webadict on April 10, 2009, 10:17:37 pm

Four hours and no one speaks. Fine, I'll speak.

There wasn't two kills... What does that mean? Also, why is qwerty back alive?

What was the point of voting for him?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Night!
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 10, 2009, 10:25:04 pm

Well, I would speak, but... yeah.
Wait.
Crap.
Ignore me. D:

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Night!
Post by: Cheeetar on April 10, 2009, 10:28:22 pm

Well, I think Qwerty was revived and then he poisoned someone. We have to get the necromancer and then Qwerty if we want a chance at winning.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Night!
Post by: NUKE9.13 on April 11, 2009, 12:36:32 pm

I say we wait for Alexhans before choosing a lynchee.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Night!
Post by: Alexhans on April 11, 2009, 01:30:05 pm

I'm here, but I'm clueless... any ideas? Nuke, Cheeetar, anyone else?  what about Boksi? he is been missing for a while now... lurking in my book because he has posted in other threads...

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Night!
Post by: NUKE9.13 on April 11, 2009, 02:05:39 pm

Well, why did you vote for qwerty? We lynched him, and he got raised. What now?
We thought webadict was the CM, but you unvoted him. Why?
Does that mean Cheeetar is the LCH?
If webadict was not the CM, he either got illusioned or Cheeetar was the LCH.
If qwerty was evil and he got raised, then inaluct was not the necromancer... well, I'm assuming that qwerty was not the white mage's best friend.
In that case, you are insane, which means that one of your inspectees was the LCH.
Of your inspectees only cheeetar stands out...
Cheeetar
But correct me if I'm wrong.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Night!
Post by: Boksi on April 11, 2009, 08:37:20 pm

Frankly, I'm basically clueless here, which is why I'm not posting.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Night!
Post by: Cheeetar on April 11, 2009, 08:49:31 pm

Unless anybody has a good idea of who the necromancer is, I'm voting Qwertyuiopas.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Night!
Post by: Org on April 11, 2009, 09:01:00 pm

Sorry Cheeetar

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Night!
Post by: bob_smith on April 11, 2009, 09:09:09 pm

Quote from: NUKE9.13 on April 11, 2009, 02:05:39 pm

Well, why did you vote for qwerty? We lynched him, and he got raised. What now?
We thought webadict was the CM, but you unvoted him. Why?
Does that mean Cheeetar is the LCH?
If webadict was not the CM, he either got illusioned or Cheeetar was the LCH.
If qwerty was evil and he got raised, then inaluct was not the necromancer... well, I'm assuming that qwerty was not the white mage's best friend.
In that case, you are insane, which means that one of your inspectees was the LCH.
Of your inspectees only cheeetar stands out...
Cheeetar
But correct me if I'm wrong.

We should probably try to vote off the necromancer as Alexhans said. Otherwise, the mafia will just re-raise their mafia person. I'd vote Boksi cause Alexhans suspects him.
I'm not voting for Cheetar just because we know who he is, while we don't know who boski is.
BTW. If Alexhans is insane, so he can only find what people aren't.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Night!
Post by: webadict on April 11, 2009, 11:43:14 pm

I agree. Cheeetar is the more likely candidate.

But what was the point of voting qwerty, Alex? I haven't found any clue for why we were voting for him, other than that you said so. Was it a test to see if the necromancer was still alive?

Was it a test?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Third Night!
Post by: bob_smith on April 12, 2009, 12:42:47 am

Quote from: webadict on April 11, 2009, 11:43:14 pm

I agree. Cheeetar is the more likely candidate.

But what was the point of voting qwerty, Alex? I haven't found any clue for why we were voting for him, other than that you said so. Was it a test to see if the necromancer was still alive?

Was it a test?

Yeah, cause anyone voting for Cheetar likely doesn't want him to kill their side. He can kill mafia too.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: bob_smith on April 12, 2009, 12:54:42 am

Oh, and I vote Boksi and hope you're good at guessing out necromancers Alexhans.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 12, 2009, 12:56:42 am

I'll be ending the day some time tomorrow.

Vote tally:

Quote

Penguinofhonor *dead*

Zaithemaster  *dead*

Qwertyuiopas          Cheeetar

PsychoJelly *dead*   

Boksi                     bob_smith 

Webadict     

Alexhans

Org

Inaluct *dead*

bob_smith       

Pandarsenic *dead*

Cheeetar           Nuke   Org   Webadict

Nuke

No Lynch

Requests for extensions will be listened to.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: Cheeetar on April 12, 2009, 03:52:06 am

I vote Boksi then. Alexhans is suspicious of him, and also I don't want to be lynched.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: qwertyuiopas on April 12, 2009, 07:56:20 am

Cheetar.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: bob_smith on April 12, 2009, 09:20:07 am

C'mon guys, don't vote Cheetar. Alexhans probably thinks killing the necromancer is more important, otherwise he would've voted Cheetar.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: Org on April 12, 2009, 09:23:20 am

Why are you trying to guard the LHC?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: Cheeetar on April 12, 2009, 09:56:06 am

Quote from: Org on April 12, 2009, 09:23:20 am

Why are you trying to guard the LHC?

Well, a known enemy is better than an unknown enemy?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: bob_smith on April 12, 2009, 10:02:00 am

Cheetar can't be worse than the Criminal Mastermind, who is coordinated with the mafia. By trying to kill the enemy necromancer, we can get rid of the larger threat.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: NUKE9.13 on April 12, 2009, 10:19:51 am

Ahem. Better one rabbit in the hand than two in the bush, as they say.
Whilst yes; the LCH can also, and must also, kill the mafia. But he must also kill town. And as we can assume that there are more townies than mafia, he is a liability.
Yes, we also have to find and kill the mafia. Yes, the mafia is more dangerous than the LCH. But despite their greater span of abilities, they can still only kill one person a night.
Currently, two people are dying per night. There is a small chance that one of them is a mafia, and a smaller chance that either of them is neutral.
If we kill cheeetar (who is probably the LCH), we reduce the amount of kills to 1 per night.
If we kill someone at random, there is first of all no guarantee that we kill a bad guy, and secondly, the amount of kills per night is not reduced at all. The best that could happen is that one of the kills is no longer undetectable.
Now, if we had a roleblocker, things would be different. Then we would be better off killing at random. But we don't. So lets kill cheeetar.

So, yes, a known enemy is better. Because we can kill him. And yes, the LCH is worse than the mastermind. And alexhans hasn't voted yet.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: Org on April 12, 2009, 10:35:48 am

Quote from: bob_smith on April 12, 2009, 10:02:00 am

Cheetar can't be worse than the Criminal Mastermind, who is coordinated with the mafia. By trying to kill the enemy necromancer, we can get rid of the larger threat.

But who is he?

And what Nuke said.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 12, 2009, 11:13:55 am

everyone who is voting for Boksi or Cheeetar please vote for Org.  He is probably the necro.

vote Org

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: Org on April 12, 2009, 11:20:56 am

Lolwut?

When did I become the necro?

I AM NOT the necro.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: bob_smith on April 12, 2009, 02:11:31 pm

Quote from: NUKE9.13 on April 12, 2009, 10:19:51 am

Ahem. Better one rabbit in the hand than two in the bush, as they say.
Whilst yes; the LCH can also, and must also, kill the mafia. But he must also kill town. And as we can assume that there are more townies than mafia, he is a liability.
Yes, we also have to find and kill the mafia. Yes, the mafia is more dangerous than the LCH. But despite their greater span of abilities, they can still only kill one person a night.
Currently, two people are dying per night. There is a small chance that one of them is a mafia, and a smaller chance that either of them is neutral.
If we kill cheeetar (who is probably the LCH), we reduce the amount of kills to 1 per night.
If we kill someone at random, there is first of all no guarantee that we kill a bad guy, and secondly, the amount of kills per night is not reduced at all. The best that could happen is that one of the kills is no longer undetectable.
Now, if we had a roleblocker, things would be different. Then we would be better off killing at random. But we don't. So lets kill cheeetar.

So, yes, a known enemy is better. Because we can kill him. And yes, the LCH is worse than the mastermind. And alexhans hasn't voted yet.

Roleblocker is called the amnesiamancer,but I'm not sure if he's still here. Also, there was only one kill last night, and no revival. Alexhans seems pretty sure the necromancer is alive, so amnesiamancer must be alive too.

Also, I vote for Org, cause we need to find the necromancer.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: Org on April 12, 2009, 02:17:09 pm

Yes lets be idiots and random lynch.
That always works.

/sarcasm off

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 12, 2009, 02:56:39 pm

come on people... vote for Org... we are narrowing down the necro...

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: Org on April 12, 2009, 02:59:48 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 12, 2009, 02:56:39 pm

come on people... vote for Org... we are narrowing down the necro...

I would like to know how I am the necro.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: NUKE9.13 on April 12, 2009, 03:46:10 pm

...
/facepalm
I retract everything I just said. Roleblocker blocks cheeetar, right.
I totally forgot about the amnesiamancer!
Org; I'm guessing alexhans checked you and got a townie result. That makes you evil. And as we sort-of-know that the SMC is dead (PoH), and we sort-of-know who the LCH is (cheeetar), we sort of that you are mafia... I guess.
Am I right, alex?
Anyway, alex has spoken! Lycnh the org!

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 12, 2009, 08:58:35 pm

I'm extending the day to tomorrow, because it's Easter, and I don't want to exclude people that are celebrating.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: webadict on April 12, 2009, 09:14:34 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 12, 2009, 02:56:39 pm

come on people... vote for Org... we are narrowing down the necro...

What if the White Mage revived/s the Necromancer on accident?

Also, I'd like to point out something called the Org effect:

Quote from: Org on April 12, 2009, 11:20:56 am

Lolwut?

When did I become the necro?

I AM NOT the necro.

Simply put, Org cannot lie. Whether it is against his nature or not is unknown, but it's just impossible.

But if you feel it'll narrow down the Necro, then so be it. Org

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: Cheeetar on April 12, 2009, 09:45:05 pm

I vote for Org.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: bob_smith on April 12, 2009, 09:55:25 pm

Josh, does the insane AMD get opposite results for statements too, or just random ones?
Alexhans can scan anyone's statements remember?
Also, Org could say, "My role in Mind & Magic Mafia is not the necromancer." rather than just "I am not the necro." if you guys think clarification is needed.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 12, 2009, 09:59:43 pm

Quote from: bob_smith on April 12, 2009, 09:55:25 pm

Josh, does the insane AMD get opposite results for statements too, or just random ones?

If you look at the first post, you'd notice that the AMD's skill only detects the 'truthfulness' of a statement. Only labeling it true or false. An insane AMD would always get the wrong answer, in this case.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: qwertyuiopas on April 13, 2009, 08:00:47 am

Could the AMD check the truthfulness of one of his own statements?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: Cheeetar on April 13, 2009, 09:21:48 am

Quote from: qwertyuiopas on April 13, 2009, 08:00:47 am

Could the AMD check the truthfulness of one of his own statements?

Why would he want to?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: qwertyuiopas on April 13, 2009, 09:45:25 am

A guarenteed check for LCH effects.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: bob_smith on April 13, 2009, 10:01:46 am

We know he's insane. Why would we be hunting the necromancer, if it's dead?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 13, 2009, 03:02:10 pm

Alexhans sits down and thinks very carefully about a statement said by sir Org...

Quote from: Org on April 12, 2009, 11:20:56 am

I AM NOT the necro.

It rolls around in his head, his prodigial intellect straining it's hardest to deduce it's truthfulness.

Then it hits him!

He gathers everyone around him as he explains his logic!

Necro >Velcro > Velcro straps > children's shoes > children's feet > messy kitchen floors > dirt > earth > planet > home > Mom > Mom's home cooking > disgusting > bad > FALSE!

Org is without a doubt, telling a lie!

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: webadict on April 13, 2009, 03:19:53 pm

Wait... so does this mean Org IS the necromancer?

So... he's telling the truth about not being the necromancer, which is opposite because he's insane.

So he IS the necromancer?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 13, 2009, 03:33:25 pm

I made a critical error somewhere in my line of thinking, I have no choice but to repeal the error I made with Alexhans' answer.

Check the edit in the above.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: webadict on April 13, 2009, 03:41:39 pm

Quote from: chaoticjosh on April 13, 2009, 03:33:25 pm

I made a critical error somewhere in my line of thinking, I have no choice but to repeal the error I made with Alexhans' answer.

Check the edit in the above.

Don't feel bad. We all make mistakes sometimes.

Now, back to what I was saying: Org cannot lie. I figured as much. He's simply a really bad liar.

Also, this pretty much proves Alexhans is insane.

Should we still lynch Org?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 13, 2009, 05:34:21 pm

no... I'll go with Nuke if we have time...

unvote vote nuke

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 13, 2009, 07:52:13 pm

The vote tally:

Quote

Penguinofhonor *dead*

Zaithemaster  *dead*

Qwertyuiopas         

PsychoJelly *dead*   

Boksi                   

Webadict     

Alexhans

Org                      Bob_smith  Nuke   Webadict Cheeetar

Inaluct *dead*

bob_smith       

Pandarsenic *dead*

Cheeetar           Org   Qwertyuiopas

Nuke                 Alexhans

No Lynch

These are the current votes, please point out any mistakes.

I'll be ending the day in approximately 1 hour, at 10 PM eastern. Requests for further extensions will be listened to.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: bob_smith on April 13, 2009, 08:14:49 pm

I unvote Org. I vote Nuke.
It's probably either him or Boksi, or maybe one other person from what Alex is saying.

Edit: I also think we should extend a day, but maybe that just me.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: webadict on April 13, 2009, 09:09:52 pm

I unvote and vote Cheeetar.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 13, 2009, 09:17:41 pm

Contemplating Bob's request, the day will be extended by 1 hour.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: bob_smith on April 13, 2009, 09:19:01 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 13, 2009, 09:09:52 pm

I unvote and vote Cheeetar.

Why Cheetar and not nuke or boski?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: Cheeetar on April 13, 2009, 09:30:29 pm

I unvote Org, vote Nuke

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: webadict on April 13, 2009, 09:48:45 pm

Quote from: bob_smith on April 13, 2009, 09:19:01 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 13, 2009, 09:09:52 pm

I unvote and vote Cheeetar.

Why Cheetar and not nuke or boski?

Because that's a waste of the Amnesiamancer's power. We're basically going on a witch hunt killing everybody until one of them ends up being the necromancer.

I think that Cheeetar gone will give us a point. Obviously, there's a Town base, and we can just wait it out, since both sides can revive.

Also, bob_smith is obviously the White Mage, given Alexhans quick summation that he is not the LCH.

qwerty must've been some nobody, since he was voted by Alexhans, or the Amnesiamancer.

Why am I saying all this? So the game ends. This game is too long for its own sake, and now the Mafia can start winning maybe. All that's been happening is that people are doing nothing but dying and coming back to life.

Also, has anyone even seen Boksi on the thread?

Pointless.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 13, 2009, 10:09:16 pm

The votes:

Quote

Penguinofhonor *dead*

Zaithemaster  *dead*

Qwertyuiopas         

PsychoJelly *dead*   

Boksi                   

Webadict     

Alexhans

Org                       Nuke

Inaluct *dead*

bob_smith       

Pandarsenic *dead*

Cheeetar           Org   Qwertyuiopas   Webadict

Nuke                 Alexhans bob_smith  Cheeetar

No Lynch

I absolutely despise ties, so the day is extended another hour.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: bob_smith on April 13, 2009, 10:32:06 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 13, 2009, 09:48:45 pm

Quote from: bob_smith on April 13, 2009, 09:19:01 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 13, 2009, 09:09:52 pm

I unvote and vote Cheeetar.

Why Cheetar and not nuke or boski?

Because that's a waste of the Amnesiamancer's power. We're basically going on a witch hunt killing everybody until one of them ends up being the necromancer.

We kill then necromancer, as then we can tell because they won't be revived. If we block random people, we are no closer to finding the necromancer.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: webadict on April 13, 2009, 10:47:06 pm

Quote from: bob_smith on April 13, 2009, 10:32:06 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 13, 2009, 09:48:45 pm

Quote from: bob_smith on April 13, 2009, 09:19:01 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 13, 2009, 09:09:52 pm

I unvote and vote Cheeetar.

Why Cheetar and not nuke or boski?

Because that's a waste of the Amnesiamancer's power. We're basically going on a witch hunt killing everybody until one of them ends up being the necromancer.

We kill then necromancer, as then we can tell because they won't be revived. If we block random people, we are no closer to finding the necromancer.

...So, basically when people stop coming back to life, we found the Necromancer.

Great plan guys. I can't believe it took two people to think of it. Hey Mafia, stop bringing people back to life, and we've found your Necromancer!

Excellent plan. Bravo. You sir, are a master planner.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: bob_smith on April 13, 2009, 10:54:48 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 13, 2009, 10:47:06 pm

Quote from: bob_smith on April 13, 2009, 10:32:06 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 13, 2009, 09:48:45 pm

Quote from: bob_smith on April 13, 2009, 09:19:01 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 13, 2009, 09:09:52 pm

I unvote and vote Cheeetar.

Why Cheetar and not nuke or boski?

Because that's a waste of the Amnesiamancer's power. We're basically going on a witch hunt killing everybody until one of them ends up being the necromancer.

We kill then necromancer, as then we can tell because they won't be revived. If we block random people, we are no closer to finding the necromancer.

...So, basically when people stop coming back to life, we found the Necromancer.

Great plan guys. I can't believe it took two people to think of it. Hey Mafia, stop bringing people back to life, and we've found your Necromancer!

Excellent plan. Bravo. You sir, are a master planner.

If they stop, we can kill the others... then we'd still be able to continue searching.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: webadict on April 13, 2009, 11:00:24 pm

Quote from: bob_smith on April 13, 2009, 10:54:48 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 13, 2009, 10:47:06 pm

Quote from: bob_smith on April 13, 2009, 10:32:06 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 13, 2009, 09:48:45 pm

Quote from: bob_smith on April 13, 2009, 09:19:01 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 13, 2009, 09:09:52 pm

I unvote and vote Cheeetar.

Why Cheetar and not nuke or boski?

Because that's a waste of the Amnesiamancer's power. We're basically going on a witch hunt killing everybody until one of them ends up being the necromancer.

We kill then necromancer, as then we can tell because they won't be revived. If we block random people, we are no closer to finding the necromancer.

...So, basically when people stop coming back to life, we found the Necromancer.

Great plan guys. I can't believe it took two people to think of it. Hey Mafia, stop bringing people back to life, and we've found your Necromancer!

Excellent plan. Bravo. You sir, are a master planner.

If they stop, we can kill the others... then we'd still be able to continue searching.

...So, you guys have absolutely no plan.

Does anyone? Do you guys even know who's Mafia? Do we know how many of them are dead?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: webadict on April 13, 2009, 11:14:37 pm

I unvote and vote NUKE.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 13, 2009, 11:54:01 pm

BAM! VOTES! THE DAY IS OVER!

Quote

Penguinofhonor *dead*

Zaithemaster  *dead*

Qwertyuiopas         

PsychoJelly *dead*   

Boksi                   

Webadict     

Alexhans

Org                       Nuke

Inaluct *dead*

bob_smith       

Pandarsenic *dead*

Cheeetar           Org   Qwertyuiopas

Nuke                 Alexhans bob_smith  Cheeetar  Webadict

No Lynch

The group circles around Nuke like vultures. The leap on him, grabbing his arms and legs, and struggle as he might, he is no match to the will of the people. They carry him to the execution chamber, and look at their choices. There's the guillotine, the noose, the stretcher, the gas chamber, any number of humane poisons, but the group sees something interesting, a large hole in the ground with smoothed, slippery sides labeled "PIT OF POISONOUS SPIDERS!" with a suspicious greased rope and pulley right above it. The group ties Nuke's hands together and tethers his ankles to the pulley, the group then lifts Nuke up, and drops him into the pit face first. He hits the bottom, and is immediately swarmed by millions of angry poisonous spiders of every variety. They cover him, biting every square inch of his body, injecting him with obscene amounts of poison from nearly every species of poisonous spider. Nuke opens his mouth to scream, and they crawl into his mouth, down his throat and into his lungs, biting his insides and suffocating him at the same time.

The group stands there, unable to watch anymore, and for several minutes they just listen to Nuke's muffled screams as he struggles in vain to shake them off of himself.

The screaming eventually stops, and the group looks into the pit to see a unrecognizable human mass, covered in spiders. Webadict and Alexhans, with a heave-ho, lift Nuke's body out of the spider pit. They give the rope a good couple jerks to shake off all the spiders, but they can't get the ones in his mouth, so they give him a quick dip into a conveniently placed vat of ACID!

The group carries Nuke's blackened, bitten, bruised, poisoned, and partially dissolved body to the mortuary, where they lay him to rest.

The group can't help but think that maybe this wouldn't have happened to him had he not tried to be the storyteller.

Night roles, send in your actions now.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Night!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 14, 2009, 08:40:20 pm

Everyone meets up in the Main Hall, with only one absentee, bob_smith.

The group goes up to his room, to find him sprawled out on the floor, a bullet wound in his forehead, and his brains splattered about the room. Blood is everywhere, it is quite the grisly sight.

The remaining players.

Quote

Penguinofhonor *dead*

Zaithemaster  *dead*

Qwertyuiopas         

PsychoJelly *dead*   

Boksi                   

Webadict     

Alexhans

Org                   

Inaluct *dead*

bob_smith        *dead*

Pandarsenic *dead*

Cheeetar           

Nuke         *dead*       

No Lynch

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Night!
Post by: Alexhans on April 14, 2009, 08:47:11 pm

we got the necro... no revival... there are at least 2 mafia goons (one is qwerty definetly) the LCH is cheetar... So it all depends on the kills tonight.

Qwertyuiopas
Boksi
Webadict     
Alexhans
Org
Cheeetar

I say we lynch Qwerty.  Vote Qwerty

we lynch mafia.  1 mafia left 3 town 1 SK.
mafia kills town, Sk kills town.  1 mafia, 1 SK 1 town.  Anything can happen.  Even a tie.
If there are 3 mafia left we lynch mafia
mafia kills town, SK kills town, 2 mafia, 1 Sk: mafia win.

If in any of those mafia kill Sk mafia or town can win. 
If SK kills mafia in one of them town or SK can win, or even tie SK,mafia.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fourth Night!
Post by: Alexhans on April 14, 2009, 09:02:28 pm

write: "My objective is to make the town win" So I can check it.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fifth Day!
Post by: Cheeetar on April 15, 2009, 08:31:12 pm

My objective is for me to win. I vote Qwerty.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fifth Day!
Post by: qwertyuiopas on April 16, 2009, 06:46:03 am

:(

But I am a town person!

I vote anyone other than me.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fifth Day!
Post by: Boksi on April 16, 2009, 09:38:05 am

My objective is for the town to win.

If only I had any use whatsoever...

I guess I'll jump on the bandwagon and vote Qwertyuiopas.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fifth Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 16, 2009, 07:27:14 pm

Alexhans calls everyone around him again.

"Today, I will deduce the truthfulness of this statement!

Quote from: Alexhans on April 16, 2009, 10:18:15 am

I investigate "My objective is for the town to win."  by Boksi

"This statement as bothered me for a good hour, but I believe I have the answer, now sir Boksi, I just need your cooperation, please give my your right hand."

Boksi gives Alexhans his hand.

"Now, can you assert that your objective is for the town to score victory?"

Boksi nods, and Alexhans feels his pulse.

"AHA! Even though it for a split second, your pulse was irregular, and from this, I can deduce that you sir, are lying!"

The crowd stands in awe, again.



I'll be extending the day by 24 hours, to allow for more activity.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fifth Day!
Post by: webadict on April 16, 2009, 08:10:04 pm

Whoops. I've been busy for a while.

I guess we vote for Qwerty?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fifth Day!
Post by: Org on April 16, 2009, 08:18:16 pm

Anyone have a voting list?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fifth Day!
Post by: webadict on April 16, 2009, 08:25:54 pm

Vote list is pretty much:
qwertyuiopas Alexhans, webadict, Boksi, Cheeetar
Anyone else qwertyuiopas

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fifth Day!
Post by: qwertyuiopas on April 16, 2009, 08:34:21 pm

Oh, fine, just kill me!
It's not like I have any specia role...


But be warned that killing me will waste a turn and rid you of one friendly vote, a vote that could save one of you later...

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fifth Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 16, 2009, 08:36:34 pm

Quote from: qwertyuiopas on April 16, 2009, 08:34:21 pm

Oh, fine, just kill me!
It's not like I have any specia role...


But be warned that killing me will waste a turn and rid you of one friendly vote, a vote that could save one of you later...

This is called appeal to emotion an is not a valid defense.  If you were town... You would come with something better.

What do you think about my investigations?  Any ideas?  If you are town you will want to help us right?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fifth Day!
Post by: qwertyuiopas on April 16, 2009, 08:41:40 pm

To quote the role PM, with irrelevant parts and link/date information removed, a

Quote from: chaoticjosh

regular Townie

That means I can do NOTHING special, except that I am one more meatshield in the way of the "mafia" winning.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fifth Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 16, 2009, 08:47:30 pm

You can't quote or fake-quote the mod.  That's ussually a mod-kill.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fifth Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 16, 2009, 08:59:46 pm

I'm not comfirming or denying anything, but I'm letting Qwerty off with a warning.

Let that be a warning to everyone else too, I want to avoid modkilling if it's possible. I have my finger on the trigger though.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fifth Day!
Post by: qwertyuiopas on April 17, 2009, 07:02:36 am

It is part of my plan. Being modkilled would mean that the townies are free to lynch a more likely target.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fifth Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 19, 2009, 01:52:50 am

That's it, you guys had enough time.

Day is over!

The votes:

Quote

Penguinofhonor *dead*

Zaithemaster  *dead*

Qwertyuiopas         Alexhans  Cheeetar   Boksi  Qwerty

PsychoJelly *dead*   

Boksi                   

Webadict     

Alexhans

Org                   

Inaluct *dead*

bob_smith        *dead*

Pandarsenic *dead*

Cheeetar           

Nuke         *dead*       

No Lynch

Qwerty wins... I mean LOSES unanimously.

The crowd grabs Qwerty and drags him to the execution chamber, looking for another exotic method of death. They see a hatch on the wall, labeled "Trained Killer Skelk, throw person in here". The group opens the hatch and throws Qwerty in, before quickly closing it back up.

The group can then only hear Qwerty's screams as the Skelk mauls him ruthlessly.

The hatch then opens of it's own volition as Qwerty is spit back out, his body mangled horribly and his blood sucked dry.

The group carries him to the mortuary before retiring for the night.


Night roles, send in your actions!

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Fifth Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 19, 2009, 09:55:27 am

Every meets up in the main hall.

However, someone is missing, Alexhans. They find his room's door ripped off the hinges, and Alexhans literally lying in pieces inside. The scene is too brutal, and the group can't carry the pieces of his body to the mortuary, so they just let him lie.

Remaining players:

Quote

Penguinofhonor *dead*

Zaithemaster  *dead*

Qwertyuiopas       *dead*

PsychoJelly *dead*   

Boksi                   

Webadict     

Alexhans    *dead*

Org                   

Inaluct *dead*

bob_smith        *dead*

Pandarsenic *dead*

Cheeetar           

Nuke         *dead*       

Day Six!

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: Org on April 19, 2009, 10:12:18 am

LHC killed him is my best guess.

So, as my gut tells me this is probably the right one, and as so long that ALexhans was not lying, I vote CHEEETAR.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: Cheeetar on April 19, 2009, 09:29:34 pm

Well, I have been working with you guys so far. I haven't been able to kill anyone because of the amnesiamancer, and I've just been tamely voting for whoever you want. Plus, why would I kill the guy who was trying to help me survive?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: webadict on April 19, 2009, 09:42:28 pm

Quote from: Cheeetar on April 19, 2009, 09:29:34 pm

Well, I have been working with you guys so far. I haven't been able to kill anyone because of the amnesiamancer, and I've just been tamely voting for whoever you want. Plus, why would I kill the guy who was trying to help me survive?

But the problem is that you can't win unless the Town and the Mafia are dead. So, neither side could keep you alive even if they wanted to. The other problem is that we have an unknown amount of Mafia left alive. Possibly even none in some odd circumstance.

Penguinofhonor
Zaithemaster
Qwertyuiopas
PsychoJelly
Boksi
Webadict
Alexhans
Org
Inaluct
bob_smith
Pandarsenic
Cheeetar
Nuke

We have four people left and a known LCH. Honestly, we have no choice but to lynch you Cheeetar. You are killing people, and we have to stop it.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 21, 2009, 04:04:36 pm

I'm increasing the day by 12 hours, cause I feel a tad guilty this is so inactive.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: qwertyuiopas on April 21, 2009, 04:11:32 pm

(Well, really with all the dead people....)
{note: the above was found in some randomly scrambled bits on a laptop HD weeks after the conclusion, complete with a date and "signature". Hopefully this clever bit of explaination makes it legal enough that a barely game-related comment gets past the "no dead posting" issues}

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: webadict on April 21, 2009, 04:26:02 pm

I'd do more posting... but there's no point. If I'm correct, there's four people, and only Cheeetar can get lynched.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 21, 2009, 05:03:28 pm

Oh, silly me, I'm so tired I can't even count!

Alright, I repeal my decision to extend the day, and the day ends.

Posting the tally would be redundant, so here's the action:

As the night draws near, the votes are in, and Cheeetar finds a bottle 87 yr. old Chardonnay in the grand pantry and pours himself a glass. Org takes a small vial clearing marked "cyanide", and Cheeetar, accepting the will of the group, takes it from him, and pours a few drops into his glass of wine. With one last sip, he appreciates the rich taste, and then drops to the floor.

The Boksi and Webadict take Cheeetar's corpse to the Mortuary, and as Boksi stretches and heads off to his room, he sees Org coming down the stairs, carrying both his and Webadict's luggage.

Boksi, confused, opens his mouth to ask, but then Org throws a large briefcase over to Webadict, who promptly places it on the ground, opens it up, and takes a tactical shotgun out!

"Hold still Boksi, this'll all be over quick." Webadict utters as a slug flies at Boksi's direction, him jumping away in panic and thus only missing him narrowly.

Org, quietly and calmly, takes a seat by the exit as WA chambers another round into the barrel.

"Wait! Please! Have mercy!" Boksi shouts, pleading for his life.

A plead that was unheard, as a another shot rings out, once again only missing Boksi by a hair. Boksi runs for his life, back upstairs, fully expecting WA to pursue.

WA does not pursue however, instead calmly walking back over to his briefcase, and repacks his shotgun, where he then joins Org by the door.

Boksi, still fearing for his life, dashes into his room, and quickly barricades the door. WA, pulls a small remote control out of his inner pocket, and pushes a button.

Boksi, still panicked, then hears a distinct beeping. He looks under his bed to see an odd square package that wasn't there before. Before he could deduce what it was however, the C4 in the package explodes with incredible force, completely obliterating Boksi's room, and ending his life right there.

The main door lights up with the words "Congratulations, you have survived my deadly game. You may leave.". The force field glows brightly, then with a pang sound, is lifted, and the double doors swing open. Org and Webadict calmly walk back to the black convertible they came here in, placing there things in the trunk. Webadict then opens a small compartment in the backseat and gets a cellular phone out.

He dials up a number and speaks,

"Yes, this is Webadict, our mission at old Joshua's Manor has been completed, all of the targets are dead. Nuke was killed though, so get an Agency necromancer to drop by and resurrect him. That is all.

Webadict takes the wheel and Org takes the passenger seat, and they drive away into the night.

Mind & Magic Mafia winners: The Mafia

Everyone's role and status at the end:

Quote

Alarmomancer: PsychoJelly BEST FRIEND *dead*

Amnesiamancer: bob_smith *dead* *perfect murder*

Arrogant Master Detective: Alexhans *Insane* *dead*

Cop: Zaithemaster *dead*

Cop Enabler: Pandarsenic *dead* *perfect murder*

Criminal Mastermind: Webadict

Illusionist: Org

Lovecraftian Horror: Cheeetar  *dead*

Mind Controller: Penguinofhonor BEST FRIEND *dead* *perfect murder*

Necromancer: Nuke *dead*

Townie: Qwertyuiopas *dead*

Townie: Boksi  *dead*

White Mage: Inaluct *dead*

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: Org on April 21, 2009, 05:11:51 pm

Nice.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: webadict on April 21, 2009, 05:13:59 pm

High five!

Sorry, NUKE. I'm sorry I had to lynch you. It was a necessary step, to gain the Town's trust. Also, I needed their role list.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: Boksi on April 21, 2009, 05:14:29 pm

Bugger.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: Zai on April 21, 2009, 05:17:06 pm

So that was quite an interesting game.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 21, 2009, 05:21:18 pm

Sorry for the sub-par hosting everyone. I'm thinking of hosting another, if anyone's interested, of course.

I have some ideas to add that might make for an even more interesting game.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: Zai on April 21, 2009, 05:25:12 pm

Really, that just needed to be quicker. Similar to the EPYC topic. >,>

And what might these new ideas of yours be?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: webadict on April 21, 2009, 05:25:34 pm

It's okay. I thought you did well. I liked the pms too.

Only thing that was hard to keep track of was who was alive.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: Org on April 21, 2009, 05:31:45 pm

I had one kill. very lucky one to.

Inaluct.


On another note, can we talk about new roles?
Do you have any ideas?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: inaluct on April 21, 2009, 05:42:27 pm

How come people always kill me?!

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: Zai on April 21, 2009, 05:46:57 pm

Yeah... If inaluct hadn't died so early, the "town" (I only just now realized that that term doesn't really fit this game <.<) would probably have won.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: bob_smith on April 21, 2009, 06:04:58 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 01:00:47 pm

Night 1:  I Investigate Cheeetar.   Town.
Night 2: I investigate Webadict.  Criminal Master
Day 2:  I investigate inaluct's body.  Necromancer.   killed by bob. 

So did Alexhans investigate Cheeetar or Webadict on the first night, cause I remember reading that he investigated Webadict after going insane?

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: qwertyuiopas on April 21, 2009, 07:08:17 pm

See? I told you I was better off alive or modkilled!

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: webadict on April 21, 2009, 07:22:02 pm

Quote from: bob_smith on April 21, 2009, 06:04:58 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 01:00:47 pm

Night 1:  I Investigate Cheeetar.   Town.
Night 2: I investigate Webadict.  Criminal Master
Day 2:  I investigate inaluct's body.  Necromancer.   killed by bob. 

So did Alexhans investigate Cheeetar or Webadict on the first night, cause I remember reading that he investigated Webadict after going insane?

Hahaha. I was illusioned. He got the right answer for the wrong reasons.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: Cheeetar on April 21, 2009, 08:44:10 pm

Well, I'd like to note that I told Alexhans who I was shortly after Bob_Smith told everyone it had to be him or me. Also, I refused to help him and tried to kill both him and Bob_Smith for every night action afterwards.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: webadict on April 21, 2009, 08:50:39 pm

Quote from: Cheeetar on April 21, 2009, 08:44:10 pm

Well, I'd like to note that I told Alexhans who I was shortly after Bob_Smith told everyone it had to be him or me. Also, I refused to help him and tried to kill both him and Bob_Smith for every night action afterwards.

Ha ha. I wanted to see if I could win with keeping you alive. We couldn't though, so we had to kill you. Otherwise, we would've.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: Cheeetar on April 21, 2009, 08:54:04 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 21, 2009, 08:50:39 pm

Quote from: Cheeetar on April 21, 2009, 08:44:10 pm

Well, I'd like to note that I told Alexhans who I was shortly after Bob_Smith told everyone it had to be him or me. Also, I refused to help him and tried to kill both him and Bob_Smith for every night action afterwards.

Ha ha. I wanted to see if I could win with keeping you alive. We couldn't though, so we had to kill you. Otherwise, we would've.

Damn. I would've sided with you, too, because killing all the innocents is more my role description.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 21, 2009, 08:55:50 pm

I don't understand... Why did I get the truth about Webadict if I was insane?  You said I would get the opposite role... That's unfair.

I told my fellow partners I suspected webadict...

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: webadict on April 21, 2009, 09:05:20 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 21, 2009, 08:55:50 pm

I don't understand... Why did I get the truth about Webadict if I was insane?  You said I would get the opposite role... That's unfair.

I told my fellow partners I suspected webadict...

I was illusioned as sheriff

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: Alexhans on April 21, 2009, 10:51:01 pm

WOW!  Good play...

When did you and Org got in touch?

I was suspicious of you for your push cheetar.  That was anti-town.

I guess Im retiring for now from all this mafia games in bay12.  I find it frustrating that there can be so much scheming outside the thread.   It gives possibilities of breaking strategies...

Josh must have laughed his ass off when I checked the LHO the first night.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: inaluct on April 21, 2009, 10:52:25 pm

And then when you promptly accused me of being a necromancer and told the white mage to cover you.

And then got killed like, 2 nights later.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: webadict on April 21, 2009, 11:52:03 pm

Quote from: Alexhans on April 21, 2009, 10:51:01 pm

WOW!  Good play...

When did you and Org got in touch?

I was suspicious of you for your push cheetar.  That was anti-town.

I guess Im retiring for now from all this mafia games in bay12.  I find it frustrating that there can be so much scheming outside the thread.   It gives possibilities of breaking strategies...

Josh must have laughed his ass off when I checked the LHO the first night.

It's different. You have to think more open-minded, and watch out for Town bases as well as Mafia. This game was very difficult.

Also, Org and I were Mafia. We knew each other. NUKE's and Org's abilities saved me.

Also, we kept reviving people that weren't Mafia, so everyone would think they were.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 22, 2009, 02:11:42 am

Quote from: Alexhans on April 21, 2009, 10:51:01 pm

Josh must have laughed his ass off when I checked the LHO the first night.

Yes, yes I did.

I hope you don't quit mafia Alex, you're a very good player, it's just that you got really unlucky while all the mafia's balancers got killed or tied up.

Ideas for possible future roles:

Deathamancer: 3 times per game, day or night, can snap his fingers and stop the heart of any other player. These can be used all at once if the player so chooses. A 4th kill is possible, but requires that the deathamancer sacrifice his own life. Wins when all the other players are dead. Will win even if he himself is dead. [third party]

Bromancer: Controls the power of friendship. Once per game, can place the 'Best Friends' bond between any two players, including himself. Does not negate the current two Best Friends. [Mafia][Town][Third party]

Usurper: One of the mafia is tasked with extra winning condition of having to ensure that one of his mafia brethren are killed before the end of the game. Will lose if this condition is not met. [mafia]

Fake Death pill: Not a role, but an item, per se. At the beginning of the game, one player will be chosen randomly and given a 'fake death' pill. At any time, day or night, that player can take the pill and 'die'. The player will automatically revive in 3 days. The player cannot be targeted for a lynch, but can still be targeted for a nightkill. The Best Friend of the 'deceased' will not be convinced that the player has died, because they have such a special bond, and won't commit suicide. In the chance that a 'dead' player is still dead when one of the other parties has met their winning condition, the 'dead' player auto-loses. [town][mafia][third party]

I'm also toying with the idea of a Mafia that is separated at the start of the game. With there being a "main" group, containing the mafia leader that makes the final say on nightkills, and a 'detached' group, which is also mafia, but is not in contact with the first group and must try to deduce who their brethren are, so they can join up with them.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: NUKE9.13 on April 22, 2009, 03:48:15 am

I thought it was a good laugh. Even after I died. I mean, I still won, right? The agency we be round soon to revive me, and then it's off to the Mafia Hideout for some celebratory drinks.
Heh. It was funny when Alexhans said he thought webadict was the CM, because we thought he had checked him the first night. So we panicked.. well, I did, at least.
Anyway, good game. Perhaps a little to luck-dependant, as without the CM we would have been screwed.. but I'll still be in for the next.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: webadict on April 22, 2009, 08:41:17 am

Quote from: NUKE9.13 on April 22, 2009, 03:48:15 am

I thought it was a good laugh. Even after I died. I mean, I still won, right? The agency we be round soon to revive me, and then it's off to the Mafia Hideout for some celebratory drinks.
Heh. It was funny when Alexhans said he thought webadict was the CM, because we thought he had checked him the first night. So we panicked.. well, I did, at least.
Anyway, good game. Perhaps a little to luck-dependant, as without the CM we would have been screwed.. but I'll still be in for the next.

We had it won since day five. The last part was simply lynching Cheeetar. We were guaranteed to win, since Org or I could fake being Town and lynch him.

Also, yeah NUKE, sorry about the sacrifice, and I had to play the whole CM thing off.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 22, 2009, 09:09:37 am

Actually, even at day 6, had Boksi figured out that WA and Org were the mafia, then he could have won for the town or the LCH could have won had both Cheeetar and Boksi worked together.

Think of it this way:

Org and WA voted for Cheeetar.

had Cheeetar and Boksi voted for either Org or WA, then they could have forced a tie, then night 6 would have begun.

In this scenario, Cheeetar would be free to kill either WA or Org. If the mafia chose to attack Cheeetar, then they'd be down one while Cheeetar survives due to his 1 free survival from a nightkill.

If another tie was forced, then the next night, Cheeetar and the remaining mafia could kill eachother, and the town would win, with Boksi as the sole survivor.

However, if the mafia chose to go after boksi on night 6, then the game would have ended with Cheeetar as the winner, because at that point, there'd be no choice but to force a draw on day 7, and the night would simply follow the formula of "Mafia tries to kill LCH, mafia fails because of 1 free immunity, LCH kills last mafia. Cheeetar wins"

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: webadict on April 22, 2009, 09:52:46 am

Oh right. I forgot the whole free night kill survival thing.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: Cheeetar on April 23, 2009, 03:23:59 am

Awww, victory was so close at hand. Boksi, you ruined it! You knew there were only two mafia remaining, so you should have known that killing me would have lost town the game.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: Boksi on April 23, 2009, 09:16:31 am

No, I didn't know that. honestly, I was merely confused.

Title: Re: Mind & Magic Mafia! Sixth Day!
Post by: webadict on April 23, 2009, 10:19:59 am

Quote from: Boksi on April 23, 2009, 09:16:31 am

No, I didn't know that. honestly, I was merely confused.

I figured as much. I was hoping you'd either vote with us or not vote at all, like you were doing. Sorry about the explosives.