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Title: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: Mephansteras on April 12, 2010, 02:10:51 pm

Ok, 14 players! Good number! Sign-ups are closed and the game will start sometime today, once I've had a chance to get all the set-up done.

Players

• Jim Groovester - Human Enchanter
• Leafsnail - Doppelganger War Vet
• JanusTwoface
• Mr.Person - Human Enchanter/Kook
• ToonyMan - Alien Exterminator
• Pandarsenic
• Org - Human Psychic Warden
• RedWarrior0 - Doppelganger Medium
• Vector - Human Guardian
• webadict - Human Townsperson
• forsaken1111 - Human Agent
• Jokerman-EXE - Human Heroic Guard/Kook
• Solifuge
• Darkness3313 - Human Intelligence Scientist-- Replaced Kashyyk

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Mephansteras on April 12, 2010, 02:11:22 pm

Here are the current rules:

Here is the (current) list of possible roles:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

• Townie
      Visible Role: No Role
      Race: Human
      Goal: Survive
      Rules: Normal citizen. No powers, just your wits and a desire to live
      Victory: Town Wins
  
• Doppelganger
      Visible Role: No Role
      Race: Doppelganger
      Goal: Kill
      Rules: Body-snatching, man-eating monster. You want to feast on human flesh and avoid being caught
      Victory: Doppelgangers Win
  
• Doppelganger leader
      Visible Role: No Role
      Race: Doppelganger
      Visible Race: Human
      Goal: Kill
      Rules: More powerful and adept then the others, the leader is immune to detection by Agent or Detective short of death. The Telepath will still receive a 'kill' goal from the Dopp Leader, however.
      Victory: Doppelgangers Win
  
• Advanced Doppelganger
      Visible Role: No Role
      Race: Doppelganger
      Goal: Kill
      Rules: An experimental advanced version of the doppelganger. Once per game the advanced doppelganger can Consume and Replace the target for that night. In game terms, the player who was the doppelganger is now out of the game (although he still wins with the dopps), and the player targeted by the advanced dopp becomes a doppelganger. This new form of doppelganger is unstable, however, and cannot have any other abilities. Any abilities possessed by the Consumed character are lost, including Mind Shield. The advanced doppelganger shows up as a normal doppelganger would to all investigative roles. Aliens cannot be Consumed, but the once-per-game limit on the ability is not used up if the Adv. Dopp tries to consume them.
      Victory: Doppelgangers Win
  
• War Vet
      Race: Human/Doppelganger
      Goal: Kill (Always)
      Rules: Is trigger happy and will kill anyone visiting them at night, although they still die if the night target was deadly. Can choose to turn off this ability for a night (leaving themselves vulnerable)
      Victory: Town/Doppelgangers win
  
• Vigilante
      Race: Human/Doppelganger
      Goal: Kill
      Rules: This character is similar to the war vet, story wise. However, while the War Vet stays at home and shoots anything that moves, the Vigilante goes out hunting himself. He gets one kill each night. If he is a dopp, he may either perform the group night-kill or his own kill.
      Victory: Town/Doppelgangers win
  
• Agent
      Race: Human/Doppelganger
      Goal: Find
      Rules: An FBI agent investigating the situation. Can investigate one person per night to determine their Race. Roles with a 'Visible Race' tag will show that Race instead of their true race.
      Victory: Town/Doppelgangers win
  
• Detective
      Race: Human/Doppelganger
      Goal: Find
      Rules: During the night, the Detective can investigate a character to determine what role, if any, the character possesses. Roles with the 'Visible Role' tag will show that role instead of thier actual Role..
      Victory: Town/Doppelgangers win
  
• Telepath
      [Psychic]
      Race: Human/Doppelganger
      Goal: Find
      Rules: The Telepath has limited psychic powers. Once per night, the Telepath can investigate a player and use their powers to determine the goal that character had that night based on their Role and Actions taken. The Telepath need not leave his house to use his powers.
      Victory: Town/Doppelgangers win
  
• Medium
      [Psychic]
      Race: Human/Doppelganger
      Goal: Find (Always)
      Rules: The medium can freely communicate with Dead characters via PM/Ghost Chat. This ability works during both the Day and Night phases.
      Victory: Town/Doppelgangers win
  
• Reporter
      Race: Human/Doppelganger
      Goal: Find
      Rules: Years of following celebrities around has given this person the ability to track anyone anywhere and keep out of sight in the process. Each night the Reporter can choose to either follow someone to see where they go or watch to see if anyone visits them that night. The Reporter does NOT get any more information about what happens, only the location visited or the people at the location. Attempting to follow a War Vet is still fatal, of course.
      Victory: Town/Doppelgangers win
  
• Guardian
      Race: Human/Doppelganger
      Goal: Protect
      Rules: Can prevent one person from being night-killed. Only protects against one attack a night.
      Victory: Town/Doppelgangers win
  
• Bodyguard
      Race: Human/Doppelganger
      Goal: Protect
      Rules: The Bodyguard is randomly given one of three abilities at the start of the game. The bodyguard uses these abilities to protect another player during the night.
         
  • Heroic Guard: The bodyguard will protect the other player with their life. This varient will sacrifice themself to prevent all night-kills targeting the other player from effecting them. The Bodyguard dies at the end of the night.
  • Observent Guard: The bodyguard will protect the other player with their life. This varient protects against the first night-kill against their target, and will determine the identity of the attacker and pass on this information to thier guarded target. The Bodyguard dies at the end of the night.
  • Vengeful Guard: The bodyguard will protect the other player with their life. This varient protects against the first night-kill against their target and kills the attacker in the process. The Bodyguard dies at the end of the night.
      Victory: Town/Doppelgangers win
  
• Psychic Warden
      [Psychic]
      Race: Human/Doppelganger
      Goal: Protect
      Rules: The psychic warden can use his abilities to foil other characters. Each night he can pick a character. That character cannot take any role-related actions for that night and following day. The Psychic Warden does not need to leave his house to use this power. All targets, regardless of role, will be aware that they have been tampered with.
      Victory: Town/Doppelgangers win
  
• Mad Scientist
      Race: Human/Doppelganger
      Goal: Based on Tech or Actions
      Rules: The Mad Scientist has been secretly working on his amazing project in the town. He was going to sell it to the government, but due to the current disaster, he's going to have to give it an early field test. At the beginning of the game the Mad Scientist picks one of three technologies to start the game with, depending on which Varient they are. All Mad Scientists have access to the Mind Shield.
      Varients:
         
  • Military Scientist: Can create Sentry Guns or Assassin Bot
  • Cutting Edge Scientist: Can create Body Double or Mind Control Ray
  • Intelligence Scientist: Can create Snooper Bot or Security System.
         
  • Body Double: A perfect body double. It could be organic, robotic, even a hologram. Regardless, it takes his place in dangerous situations while he stays safe. If the Mad Scientist is killed or abducted, the body double takes his place. This also applies to lynches during the day phase. It's a one-use item, though, so he's vulnerable after it's been destroyed.
  • Security System: A highly advanced security system watches over the Mad Scientist's house. He knows the identity of anyone who visits his house during the night. He does not, however, know their purpose. Unless it's to kill him, and he finds that out the hard way.
  • Sentry Guns: Functions like the War Vet, attacking and killing anyone who comes snooping around the Mad Scientist's house. However, it has limited ammo (it is just a prototype version), and only works for one night. Should the Mad Scientist be attacked, it is the Sentry Gun that is destroyed not the Scientist. Once destroyed, the Sentry gun cannot protect against any further attacks that night. Like the War Vet's ability, the gun can be turned off for a night. This makes the house safe for friendly visitors but leaves the Mad Scientist vulnerable to attack.
  • Snooper bot: This little bug-bot can trail another player at night and see where they go (if anywhere).
  • Assassin bot: Once per game the MS can use the assassin bot to day-kill another player. This attack cannot be traced back to the Mad Scientist.
  • Mind Control Ray: Once per game the MS can use the Mind Control Ray to choose another player's target for the night. The targeted player cannot target themself, and if the player does not have a night action (and is not the dopp/cultist chosen for the night kill), or if the player has a limited-use night ability and chose not to use it, then no action occurs. The Ray also allows the Scientist to control that player's vote during the next day and may change it as often as he wishes.
  • Mind Shield: The Mind Shield gives the user a Mind Shield. Should the user already possess a Natural Mind Shield, it will be upgraded to an Advanced Mind Shield. An advanced mind shield provides the same protection as a normal mind shield, but has the added benefit of always appearing to work to the one using psychic powers against the user. Telepaths will always receive a 'Survive' result, Psychic Wardens will not know their power is blocked, and so on.
          Due to their mechanical nature, the Inventions cannot be stopped by a Psychic Warden
      Victory: Town/Doppelgangers win
  
• Enchanter
      [Psychic]
      Race: Human/Doppelganger
      Goal: Survive
      Rules: The Enchanter uses his Psychic abilities to make people weight his vote more than others. His votes count double. If at any point there are more Mind Shields then regular players, this power will not work.
      Victory: Town/Doppelgangers win
  
• Alien Scientist
      Race: Alien
      Goal: Find
      Tech: 1 Medium Tech Slot
      Rules: The Alien Scientist is on earth to capture one example of each species for study (1 human, 1 doppelganger/cultist, 1 alien). Each night he may choose to Abduct a player. If that player is of a race he does not have, they are removed from the game and kept for study. If he already has one, they are returned to play the following morning. The Scientist and all of his captives may freely PM one another. Once he has 1 of each, he wins and he and all abducted players are removed from the game. If he is killed, all abducted players are returned to the game. If the game ends and he does not have one of each, he loses. He only obstructs the win condition of the Exterminator.
      Victory: Captures 1 normal human, 1 psychic human, 1 doppelganger/cultist, and 1 alien
  
• Survivor
      Visable Role: No Role
      Race: Alien
      Goal: Survive
      Rules: The Alien is there for some other purpose, and is simply hiding as a human. Their only goal is to survive until the end of the game. They win as long as they are alive, regardless of which side wins.
      Tech: 1 Small Tech Slot
      Victory: Is alive and unabducted at the end of the game
  
• Exterminator
      Race: Alien
      Goal: Kill
      Rules: The doppelganger infestation is a danger to the Alien's people, and it and all traces of it must be wiped from the Earth. The Alien kills one person a night. The Alien wins when they and thier Operative (if there is one) are the only ones left alive. The Exterminator always has a Mind Shield.
      Tech: 1 Medium and 1 Large Tech Slot
      Victory: All non-Exterminator aligned players are dead
  
• Operative
      Race: Alien
      Goal: Based on Actoin
      Rules: The Operative is sent along with the Exterminator to aid them in their task. During the mission he can do each of the following once during the night. The Operative may only perform one action each night, although he may choose to perform no actions on any given night.
         
  • Determine a player's Race
  • Determine a player's Role
  • Perform a Night Kill on a player
  • Role-Block a player
  • Act as a Vengful Bodyguard for the Alien.
      Tech: 0 Slots
      Victory: All non-Exterminator aligned players are dead
  

    All aliens get to pick from the following set of equipment to start the game with, based on the number of Tech slots listed under thier role. An alien can only have 1 of any given item unless otherwise noted.

    Item list:
   

• Personal Shield: Works once as though guarded by the Guardian. Will also protect against Morningkills. Small tech slot.
• Mind Shield: The Mind Shield gives the user a Mind Shield. Should the user already possess a Natural Mind Shield, it will be upgraded to an Advanced Mind Shield. An advanced mind shield provides the same protection as a normal mind shield, but has the added benefit of always appearing to work to the one using psychic powers against the user. Telepaths will always receive a 'Survive' result, Psychic Wardens will not know their power is blocked, and so on. Small tech slot.
• Holoform Modulator: Works once when investigated, allowing the alien to choose a role and race to show as. Once activated it lasts the entire night but is used up after that. Small tech slot.
• Scanner: Works once as a combination of the Agent and Detective, showing both Race and Role as well as any gadgets or tech possessed by the player. The scanner bypasses all role effects on investigation (such as the Kook or Dopp Leader). The scanner does not use up the Alien's action, nor does it trigger any responses by the target (such as PWV or Reporter watching a location). Small tech slot, can be taken as a two-use item for a Medium tech slot.
• Deadman bomb: If the Alien is lynched, he explodes killing the last person to vote for him and a random person near him. A day-kill that is not a lynch will result in two random players being killed. If he is night-killed, the bomb kills his attacker (counts as an NK). Small tech slot.
• Stun Orb: Allows the Alien to stun another player, preventing them from taking any actions that night or using any active abilities the following day (Role-block another player). 1 Use. Does not trigger War Vet/Turret response.  Small tech slot, can be taken as a two-use item for a Medium tech slot.
• Advanced Holoform Modulator: Works as the Holoform Modulator, but also allows the Alien to project an active hologram. This hologram can be shown to go to any location (or stay at home). Anyone following the Alien will watch the Hologram instead of the Alien. Medium tech slot.
• Assassin bot: Once per game the Alien can use the assassin bot to day-kill another player. This attack cannot be traced back to the Alien. In addition, it is triggered remotely and can be used even while abducted. Medium tech slot.
• Mind Control Ray: Once per game the Alien can use the Mind Control Ray to choose another player's target for the night as well as their vote for the next day. If the player does not have a night action (and is not the dopp/cultist chosen for the night kill), or if the player has a limited-use night ability and chose not to use it, then no action occurs. The alien still controls the vote on the next day. Medium tech slot.
• Stun Bomb: Allows the Alien to stun the entire town, preventing any player from using an Action for that night or using any active abilities the following day. The Alien who uses it is unaffected. Medium tech slot.
• Combat Camouflage: A combination of weapons and accessories that allows the Exterminator to mask his kills as if they came from any source (Vig, Dopp, or Abduction). Medium tech slot.
• Intel You begin the game with Intel on the survivors in the town. This gives you a list of all Roles in the game, but not who has them. Large tech slot.
• Plasma Bomb: One use per game, can be chosen in lieu of a nightkill, which will kill the target, and anyone interacting with the target, and anyone interacting with them, and so on. Cannot be protected against. It is triggered remotely, so the Alien is smart enough to stay out of the Blast Radius, and is therefore unaffected (assuming he's not targeting himself for some reason). Can also be used while abducted. Only effects people physically at that location (so Psychics are fine). Large tech slot.

• Mind Shield
      [Psychic]
      [Ability]
      Race: Any
      Rules: This character is completely immune to all Psychic effects and abilities (Telepath, Warlock, Disciple of Truth, and Psychic Warden). The Mind Shield is not a role in itself, but an ability granted to a non-psychic character that may or may not already have a role. There can be two Mind Shields per side. Psychic characters will be aware of a Mind Shield blocking their abilities.
  
• Kook
      Race: Human or Corrupted Human
      Visible Race: Doppelganger
      Rules: The guy who's always seemed a bit "off" to everyone. Now his behavior has gotten even more erratic. It's really due to stress from the killings and whatnot, but it makes the Agent confuse him for a Doppelganger. The Kook also talks to himself a lot, and will always show up to a Watcher as having communicated with someone that day. Requires Doppelgangers to be a faction to show up.
  

     

Definitions:
    Doppelganger: These foul creatures kill and eat humans, taking on all of their memories and abilities. Once they have a form, most doppelgagners cannot change again. They are a flawed species, and possess and uncontrollable bloodlust forcing them to kill and eat humans each night. Their goal is to destroy all of the humans in the town and make their way out into the larger world.
    Night Kill: Any kill that happens during the Night Phase. The Doppelgangers and Cultists each get 1 Night Kill as a group, in addition to any allowed by Roles.
    Morningkill: A morning kill happens between the day and night phase, and cannot be prevented by abilities that prevent night kills. (Such as the Guardian)
    Abduction: When a player abducts another player, two things happen. First, the abducted player is role-blocked for the night. Second, that player is removed from play for that night (and possibly the game). While removed, they cannot be the target of any other night action and cannot vote or be lynched during the day. Exceptions: The Paranoid War Vet and Sentry Gun are not role-blocked by an abduction, and will kill the player attempting the abduction. Abducted players are not role-flipped until their abductor leaves the game.

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I've written a perl script to pick roles and whatnot randomly. It has some rules that it follows, but it should make for a nice amount of randomness to the set-up. Note that while I'll generally just go with whatever it spits out, I may make modifications to the set-up in order to make a more interesting game or to test out a specific feature. Also note that I will intentionally mess or not mess with stuff just to screw up anyone depending on the Gambler's Fallacy.

Not all roles are guaranteed. In fact, it's quite possible to have a game with nothing but normal doppelgangers and humans.
There will only be, at most, 2 of any given role per side for Humans and Doppelgangers (other then townsperson, normal doppelganger, and cultist)
There can only be 1 of each Alien Role in a game. An Exterminator can have either an Operative or a Controlled Doppelganger working with him, not both.

Spoiler: Current Role Matrix (click to show/hide)

name	type	faction	max	weight	psychic	goal	requires	restricted	varients	varientof
Mind Shield	ability	town	2	1	1
Mind Shield	ability	dopp	2	-3	1
Mind Shield	ability	alien	2	1	1
Kook	ability	town	2	-1	0		dopp::any
Townsperson	role	town	100	0	0	survive
Agent	role	town	2	4	0	find
Detective	role	town	2	3	0	find
Telepath	role	town	2	3	1	find
Guardian	role	town	2	4	0	protect				Bodyguard
War Vet	role	town	2	1	0	kill
Bodyguard	role	town	2	1	0	protect			yes
Heroic Guard	role	town	2	1	0	protect				Bodyguard
Observent Guard	role	town	2	1	0	protect				Bodyguard
Vengful Guard	role	town	2	2	0	protect				Bodyguard
Mad Scientist	role	town	2	2	0	survive			yes
Military Scientist	role	town	2	3	0	kill				Mad Scientist
Cutting Edge Scientist	role	town	2	2	0	survive				Mad Scientist
Intelligence Scientist	role	town	2	1	0	find				Mad Scientist
Medium	role	town	2	3	1	find
Enchanter	role	town	2	2	1	survive
Psychic Warden	role	town	2	2	1	protect
Vigilante	role	town	2	3	0	kill
Reporter	role	town	2	3	0	find
Doppelganger	role	dopp	100	-1	0	kill
Agent	role	dopp	2	-4	0	find
Detective	role	dopp	2	-6	0	find
Telepath	role	dopp	2	-5	1	find
Guardian	role	dopp	2	-6	0	protect				Bodyguard
Bodyguard	role	dopp	2	-3	0	protect			yes
Heroic Guard	role	dopp	2	-2	0	protect				Bodyguard
Observent Guard	role	dopp	2	-2	0	protect				Bodyguard
Vengful Guard	role	dopp	2	-3	0	protect				Bodyguard
Mad Scientist	role	dopp	2	2	0	survive			yes
Military Scientist	role	dopp	2	-5	0	kill				Mad Scientist
Cutting Edge Scientist	role	dopp	2	-4	0	survive				Mad Scientist
Intelligence Scientist	role	dopp	2	-2	0	find				Mad Scientist
Psychic Warden	role	dopp	2	-4	1	protect
Enchanter	role	dopp	2	-3	1	kill
Reporter	role	dopp	2	-3	0	find
Leader	role	dopp	1	-4	0	kill
Advanced Doppelganger	role	dopp	1	-7	1	kill		cult::any
Vigilante	role	dopp	2	-8	1	kill
War Vet	role	dopp	2	-7	1	kill
Medium	role	dopp	2	-4	1	find
Exterminator	role	alien	1	0	0	kill
Survivor	role	alien	1	0	0	survive	dopp::any
Operative	role	alien	1	0	0	protect	alien::Exterminator
Scientist	role	alien	1	0	0	find	alien::any

Vengful Guard	role	town	2	2	0	protect				Bodyguard
Mad Scientist	role	town	2	2	0	survive
Medium	role	town	2	3	1	find
Enchanter	role	town	2	2	1	survive
Psychic Warden	role	town	2	2	1	protect
Vigilante	role	town	2	3	0	kill
Reporter	role	town	2	3	0	find
Doppelganger	role	dopp	100	-1	0	kill
Agent	role	dopp	2	-4	0	find
Detective	role	dopp	2	-6	0	find
Telepath	role	dopp	2	-5	1	find
Guardian	role	dopp	2	-6	0	protect				Bodyguard
Bodyguard	role	dopp	2	-3	0	protect			yes
Heroic Guard	role	dopp	2	-2	0	protect				Bodyguard
Observent Guard	role	dopp	2	-2	0	protect				Bodyguard
Vengful Guard	role	dopp	2	-3	0	protect				Bodyguard
Mad Scientist	role	dopp	2	-4	0	kill
Psychic Warden	role	dopp	2	-4	1	protect
Enchanter	role	dopp	2	-3	1	kill
Reporter	role	dopp	2	-3	0	find
Leader	role	dopp	1	-4	0	kill
Advanced Doppelganger	role	dopp	1	-7	1	kill		cult::any
Vigilante	role	dopp	2	-8	1	kill
War Vet	role	dopp	2	-7	1	kill
Medium	role	dopp	2	-4	1	find
Exterminator	role	alien	1	0	0	kill
Survivor	role	alien	1	0	0	survive	dopp::any
Operative	role	alien	1	0	0	protect	alien::Exterminator
Scientist	role	alien	1	0	0	find	alien::any

General Rules:
 

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

  Rule on PMs: Private Messages are allowed. However, I must be copied on all PMs. Failure to do so will result in very bad things happening to you. In addition you may NOT quote any PM from me, either your initial Role-PM or any role-related PMs. (Night role results, etc).  I'll make an exception for specifically rules-related questions. This is to keep the suspense and uncertainty in the game high. You're not supposed to know if the other person is lying or not, and quoting me gives too much weight to whatever it is you're saying.

  The Game will have a set Maximum game-day that it will go to. At that point, any players who have not already achieved thier victory conditions will lose. I will give ample warning beforehand if this event is imminent. This is to prevent stalemates from developing and dragging a game out forver.
 
  Nights will last for 24 hours or until I've heard from each player with a night role, whichever comes first.
    In the event of night role collision, see the order of presidence below. All actions within the same level are assumed to happen simultaniously.
    The Doppelgangers may choose to skip thier night kill. They may only do this twice in a row before their bloodlust forces them to kill.

  Days will last for 48 hours or until everyone has voted (if there is a long period of inactivity after everyone votes I'll end the day to keep things moving).
    In the event of a tie, no lynch will occur.

  Extensions: Extensions require at least 25% of the living players requesting an extension. Votes against the extension will reduce the counted number requesting (so, of 8 players if 3 vote for an extension and one votes against it it's still 2 for, which is 25%, which grants the extension.)
Extensions will extend the day by 24 hours. No more then two extensions will be granted on any given game day.

  Conditional voting is currently unavailable, so you'll either have to vote carefully or make sure you log on before the end of the day if you want to change your vote.

  All votes should be colored red to make it easy for me to spot them.

  Speaking While Dead: The dead may post once after they have died to comment on their death. They may not provide any information about the game in this post. After this, any posting in the game before it has ended will result in a one game ban from future Paranormal games. Repeated abuse, or posts that have a major impact on the game, can result in a permaban from any future Paranormal games (and probably a lot of other Forum games as well as word gets around).

  Dead may freely PM a Medium character if that role is present in the game.

  Doppelgagners and the Dead will have special chat areas on http://www.quicktopic.com. I will PM the appropriate link to you at the start of the game or when you die. A Medium will have access to the Dead channel. The Dead channel will start with a statement of whether or not there is a Medium in the game.

  Event Order: The order of events is as follows:

    Mind Control
    Pure Role-blockers
    Abductors
    Protectors
    Investigators
    Night Kills (The War Vet (or equivalent) is sort of an exception, in that he'll kill anyone who targets them on THEIR turn, rather than his)

  All kills will be effectively simultaneous. (I may make some literary liberties with this in the PMs, but there won't be any cases like the Dopps->Exterminator->Townie chain like Game 2 had)

 

  Feel free to ask for clarification on any rule.
 

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 12, 2010, 02:13:32 pm

In.

No changes between this game and the last?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Mephansteras on April 12, 2010, 02:38:51 pm

Nope, nothing other then a change in the weights for scum-town for small groups of players.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Leafsnail on April 12, 2010, 02:48:39 pm

In.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 12, 2010, 04:20:17 pm

In.

You wouldn't by any chance have a list of which team won each game and / or who was on the winning teams would you?  I could go through the old games and look it up, but I figured that asking first would be easier.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Mr.Person on April 12, 2010, 04:32:33 pm

I've missed a lot of these, in

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Mephansteras on April 12, 2010, 04:59:10 pm

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 12, 2010, 04:20:17 pm

In.

You wouldn't by any chance have a list of which team won each game and / or who was on the winning teams would you?  I could go through the old games and look it up, but I figured that asking first would be easier.

I think the rules discussion thread has a list of games and who won.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: ToonyMan on April 12, 2010, 05:10:43 pm

IN mosthaps

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 12, 2010, 05:25:44 pm

I should have been pre-in'd for this as per my in-on-all-Paranormal-Mafias policy. :o

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: ToonyMan on April 12, 2010, 05:35:44 pm

YOUR BONE IS THE BEST PANDAR

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Org on April 12, 2010, 06:47:37 pm

IN

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 12, 2010, 06:50:34 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 12, 2010, 05:35:44 pm

YOUR BONE IS THE BEST PANDAR

Sig upgraded.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 12, 2010, 07:23:11 pm

I suppose I might have time to joIN

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Vector on April 12, 2010, 07:32:19 pm

In.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Eduren on April 12, 2010, 07:44:10 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 12, 2010, 06:50:34 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 12, 2010, 05:35:44 pm

YOUR BONE IS THE BEST PANDAR

Sig upgraded.

No room for Eduren ;_;

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: ToonyMan on April 12, 2010, 08:20:20 pm

Quote from: Eduren on April 12, 2010, 07:44:10 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 12, 2010, 06:50:34 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 12, 2010, 05:35:44 pm

YOUR BONE IS THE BEST PANDAR

Sig upgraded.

No room for Eduren ;_;

NOOOOOO

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 12, 2010, 08:45:16 pm

Quote from: Eduren on April 12, 2010, 07:44:10 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 12, 2010, 06:50:34 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 12, 2010, 05:35:44 pm

YOUR BONE IS THE BEST PANDAR

Sig upgraded.

No room for Eduren ;_;

Sorry, the quote was just too big.

Like my penis.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Eduren on April 12, 2010, 10:42:41 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 12, 2010, 08:45:16 pm

Quote from: Eduren on April 12, 2010, 07:44:10 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 12, 2010, 06:50:34 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 12, 2010, 05:35:44 pm

YOUR BONE IS THE BEST PANDAR

Sig upgraded.

No room for Eduren ;_;

Sorry, the quote was just too big.

Like my penis.

Subtle.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 12, 2010, 10:49:30 pm

Quote from: Eduren on April 12, 2010, 10:42:41 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 12, 2010, 08:45:16 pm

Quote from: Eduren on April 12, 2010, 07:44:10 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 12, 2010, 06:50:34 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 12, 2010, 05:35:44 pm

YOUR BONE IS THE BEST PANDAR

Sig upgraded.

No room for Eduren ;_;

Sorry, the quote was just too big.

Like my penis.

Subtle.

Also like my penis.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: webadict on April 12, 2010, 11:10:58 pm

In. If RedWarrior0 is insta-lynched Day 1.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 13, 2010, 04:15:04 am

But if he lurks we know he's scum!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Leafsnail on April 13, 2010, 04:30:58 am

We could run a Lynch All Lurkers policy this game.  See what it does for activity.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: webadict on April 13, 2010, 08:13:07 am

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 13, 2010, 04:30:58 am

We could run a Lynch All Lurkers policy this game.  See what it does for activity.

Usually such policies are more beneficial for scum.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Leafsnail on April 13, 2010, 09:23:11 am

It'd be more a way to make sure EVERYONE COMES DOWN AND PLAYS than a way to find scum.  Heck, in the actual Lynch All Lurkers game they never actually had to lynch a lurker.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: webadict on April 13, 2010, 09:42:20 am

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 13, 2010, 09:23:11 am

It'd be more a way to make sure EVERYONE COMES DOWN AND PLAYS than a way to find scum.  Heck, in the actual Lynch All Lurkers game they never actually had to lynch a lurker.

True. et's do it.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Mephansteras on April 13, 2010, 12:34:24 pm

Eduren, are you in?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 13, 2010, 12:43:33 pm

In

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 13, 2010, 01:06:19 pm

IN. This should be uhh...interesting.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Solifuge on April 13, 2010, 01:12:55 pm

I was in this before this thread even existed.

Also, if I get the Advanced Doppleganger, I fully intend to consume myself all Oroborus-style, and cease to exist.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: ToonyMan on April 13, 2010, 01:16:53 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 13, 2010, 01:12:55 pm

I was in this before this thread even existed.

Also, if I get the Advanced Doppleganger, I fully intend to consume myself all Oroborus-style, and cease to exist.

Consume the mod.

Auto-win!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Eduren on April 13, 2010, 01:51:53 pm

Quote from: Mephansteras on April 13, 2010, 12:34:24 pm

Eduren, are you in?

Nope.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Leafsnail on April 13, 2010, 02:05:04 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 13, 2010, 01:12:55 pm

I was in this before this thread even existed.

Also, if I get the Advanced Doppleganger, I fully intend to consume myself all Oroborus-style, and cease to exist.

Funnily enough my AD type role had already gone through that process.

Come to think of it, part of the AD's huge power is the fact that it's a Death Antimiller.  A death antimiller is already regarded as one of the most powerful roles scum can have.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Mephansteras on April 13, 2010, 02:10:01 pm

Yeah. Hence the high cost.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: webadict on April 13, 2010, 03:00:59 pm

I forgot another rule: Always lynch Org, or he'll be an incredible burden to the Town.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: ToonyMan on April 13, 2010, 03:11:27 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 13, 2010, 03:00:59 pm

I forgot another rule: Always lynch Org, or he'll be an incredible burden to the Town.

Another rule: Never night-kill Org, as he will actually help town by dying.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Eduren on April 13, 2010, 03:54:21 pm

We should totally have a gentlemans agreement that the Mafia kills the lurkers the first few nights.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: webadict on April 13, 2010, 04:06:26 pm

Quote from: Eduren on April 13, 2010, 03:54:21 pm

We should totally have a gentlemans agreement that the Mafia kills the lurkers the first few nights.

Only if everyone agrees to neither watch nor protect the lurkers nor any other action which would give one side advantage over the other.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Solifuge on April 13, 2010, 04:07:45 pm

I could agree to that.

Of course, if there are lurkers who aren't being offed, then we can peg a Dopple/Cultist or two.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: webadict on April 13, 2010, 04:12:23 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 13, 2010, 04:07:45 pm

I could agree to that.

Of course, if there are lurkers who aren't being offed, then we can peg a Dopple/Cultist or two.

There is no rule against using an Agent/Detective/Telepath on lurkers as well. And, to be fair, if the mafia is lurking, they deserve to be outed.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Org on April 13, 2010, 04:49:52 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 13, 2010, 03:00:59 pm

I forgot another rule: Always lynch Org, or he'll be an incredible burden to the Town.

what
i am good

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: ToonyMan on April 13, 2010, 04:52:45 pm

Quote from: Org on April 13, 2010, 04:49:52 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 13, 2010, 03:00:59 pm

I forgot another rule: Always lynch Org, or he'll be an incredible burden to the Town.

what
i am good

Cool story bro.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: webadict on April 13, 2010, 05:16:43 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 13, 2010, 04:52:45 pm

Quote from: Org on April 13, 2010, 04:49:52 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 13, 2010, 03:00:59 pm

I forgot another rule: Always lynch Org, or he'll be an incredible burden to the Town.

what
i am good

Cool story bro.

I am Doctor! Inspect me!

LOL, JK I AM WAR VET NOW I LYNCH YOU FOR NOT INSPECTING ME WHICH WOULD END DA GAME ANYWAYZ!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Org on April 13, 2010, 05:38:46 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 13, 2010, 05:16:43 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 13, 2010, 04:52:45 pm

Quote from: Org on April 13, 2010, 04:49:52 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 13, 2010, 03:00:59 pm

I forgot another rule: Always lynch Org, or he'll be an incredible burden to the Town.

what
i am good

Cool story bro.

I am Doctor! Inspect me!

LOL, JK I AM WAR VET NOW I LYNCH YOU FOR NOT INSPECTING ME WHICH WOULD END DA GAME ANYWAYZ!

Hehehe

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: webadict on April 13, 2010, 05:47:59 pm

Point proven.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Solifuge on April 13, 2010, 05:48:42 pm

Webadict is just jealous of your manly indifference, and happy-go-lucky nature, Org.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Mr.Person on April 13, 2010, 05:53:28 pm

I think the problem is that Org doesn't do what most players would do. That's not automatically bad, but it is... confusing sometimes. Also, Org has a tendency to do things that most of the rest of us would never do. Usually it's because of the risks or we've seen the plan fail or the plan was retarded to begin with. Still, every once in awhile, Org catches scum. It's just after all the failures, it's hard to imagine Org doing something that actually works really well.

I think Webadict just doesn't like Org, probably because Org used to be a bad lurker. The emphasis is on USED to be.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: webadict on April 13, 2010, 05:57:54 pm

Quote from: Mr.Person on April 13, 2010, 05:53:28 pm

I think the problem is that Org doesn't do what most players would do. That's not automatically bad, but it is... confusing sometimes. Also, Org has a tendency to do things that most of the rest of us would never do. Usually it's because of the risks or we've seen the plan fail or the plan was retarded to begin with. Still, every once in awhile, Org catches scum. It's just after all the failures, it's hard to imagine Org doing something that actually works really well.

I think Webadict just doesn't like Org, probably because Org used to be a bad lurker. The emphasis is on USED to be.

I've got nothing against Org. Just his play style.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Org on April 13, 2010, 08:31:59 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 13, 2010, 05:47:59 pm

Point proven.

NOW I SHALL CLAIM DOCTOR EVERY GAME!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Leafsnail on April 13, 2010, 08:41:19 pm

You were pretty obviously a PWV... surprised noone else noticed it.  Then again, I guess I was looking at it through scum goggles as someone who'd already lost a teammate to a PWV.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 13, 2010, 08:42:32 pm

I think it was universally obvious what Org was...

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: webadict on April 13, 2010, 09:48:30 pm

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 13, 2010, 08:41:19 pm

You were pretty obviously a PWV... surprised noone else noticed it.  Then again, I guess I was looking at it through scum goggles as someone who'd already lost a teammate to a PWV.

You mean two teammates to a Vig.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Leafsnail on April 13, 2010, 09:52:27 pm

Janus also attacked a PWV.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: webadict on April 13, 2010, 09:55:29 pm

But I still hit two. It would've been three, but I was tragically ended before then.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Leafsnail on April 14, 2010, 08:34:28 am

That's why I killed you~

Although it might've gone better if Neruz and you didn't claim.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Kashyyk on April 14, 2010, 10:15:08 am

In. How dare you try to sneak this past me!  :D

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups
Post by: Leafsnail on April 14, 2010, 10:58:49 am

Alright, 14 players.

3 scum and 1 third party, perhaps?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups Closed
Post by: Mephansteras on April 14, 2010, 11:10:33 am

All right, that's it for sign-ups! Game will start once I have all the set-up done. So...sometime today. Hopefully it'll be up by lunchtime.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups Closed
Post by: ToonyMan on April 14, 2010, 11:15:10 am

Geez this is starting up quickly.  But this is good news, I'm not playing in any mafias!!!!  Maybe I'll actually be a third-party for once.

Or not get lynched the first day.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups Closed
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 14, 2010, 11:26:17 am

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 14, 2010, 11:15:10 am

Or not get lynched the first day.

Don't worry, we have RedWarrior0 and Org.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups Closed
Post by: Org on April 14, 2010, 03:14:57 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 14, 2010, 11:26:17 am

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 14, 2010, 11:15:10 am

Or not get lynched the first day.

Don't worry, we have RedWarrior0.

Fixed

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups Closed
Post by: Mr.Person on April 14, 2010, 03:22:14 pm

Don't worry ma'am, I'm from the Internet!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups Closed
Post by: ToonyMan on April 14, 2010, 03:28:35 pm

Game plan, we all lynch Org day 1.

Vote Org.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Signups Closed
Post by: Mephansteras on April 14, 2010, 03:48:12 pm

A tranquil Pacific island. Small, out of the way, and the perfect spot for a quiet vacation. Well...until now.

First there was the Tsunami. It didn't hit much and wasn't that big, but it hit the island hard enough to wash out all the roads leading to the hotel and wreck most of the boats on the island. It'll be a bit before anyone can go anywhere outside of the hotel grounds.

Then...then there were the pods found in a secluded cave down by the beach. Three of them, matching the descriptions of those 'doppelgangers' you keep hearing about on TV.

After that, of course, came the disappearances. Most of the hotel staff has either died or fled, leaving you fourteen alone here. Three of you are monsters. It's best if you find them and kill them quickly, before they decide to have you for lunch.

---

Day One has started! It will go until ~5pm Pacific Friday

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Vector on April 14, 2010, 03:50:15 pm

Good morning, Mr.Person.  What's your avatar?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 14, 2010, 03:54:44 pm

Did everyone get a role?  Because I don't have one right now.

Anyway, vote Org.  We had an agreement!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mephansteras on April 14, 2010, 03:57:03 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 14, 2010, 03:54:44 pm

Did everyone get a role?  Because I don't have one right now.

Your role PM is in my out-box, so if you don't have it yet it's probably just the system being slow.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 14, 2010, 03:58:51 pm

Vector! How dare you attack Mr.Person on the basis of his avatar! It's clearly a... Something having to do with elephants?

Anyways, if you were scum, what scum role would you be and why?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Vector on April 14, 2010, 04:02:47 pm

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 14, 2010, 03:58:51 pm

Vector! How dare you attack Mr.Person on the basis of his avatar! It's clearly a... Something having to do with elephants?

Anyways, if you were scum, what scum role would you be and why?

Presumably, I'd be whichever role Meph's RNG ended up handing me, because that's how he hands out roles.   ::)

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Kashyyk on April 14, 2010, 04:14:51 pm

Panda. What are the odds of you being an exterminator again?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 14, 2010, 04:25:39 pm

Quote from: Kashyyk on April 14, 2010, 04:14:51 pm

Panda. What are the odds of you being an exterminator again?

Fuck you.

*ahem* Anyway.

Vector, why the intentional nonanswer?

OH SNAP SECOND VOTE MOTHERFUCKERSSSSS

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Vector on April 14, 2010, 04:31:17 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 14, 2010, 04:25:39 pm

Vector, why the intentional nonanswer?

I have a headache and felt like answering the question with a literal interpretation of its contents.

If I got to pick my role, though, I'd probably want to be a dopp vig.  Double-kills are obscenely useful, and I tend to prefer killing roles to the softer sorts.  Otherwise, Adv. Dopp is pretty good, but since I consider myself a reasonably skilled scum player I don't really want to off myself like that.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 14, 2010, 04:33:47 pm

I suppose it would work. Now, what do you think Mr.Person's avatar is?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 14, 2010, 04:34:33 pm

Quote from: Mephansteras on April 14, 2010, 03:57:03 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 14, 2010, 03:54:44 pm

Did everyone get a role?  Because I don't have one right now.

Your role PM is in my out-box, so if you don't have it yet it's probably just the system being slow.

Oh right, I got my role now so sweet.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Vector on April 14, 2010, 04:41:35 pm

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 14, 2010, 04:33:47 pm

I suppose it would work. Now, what do you think Mr.Person's avatar is?

Some kind of green pachyderm with a bent for prostitution?  I honestly don't know.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 14, 2010, 04:42:54 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 14, 2010, 03:54:44 pm

Did everyone get a role?  Because I don't have one right now.

Anyway, vote Org.  We had an agreement!

Hey man.
No.
Red first.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 14, 2010, 04:48:09 pm

Trying to get out of the inevitable lynch?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 14, 2010, 04:49:38 pm

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 14, 2010, 04:48:09 pm

Trying to get out of the inevitable lynch?

NOU

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 14, 2010, 04:50:35 pm

TOONYMAN because I can can can!

You were scum last game, I'm just getting off to a good start and killing you NAO.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 14, 2010, 04:51:13 pm

Also, my usual tactic is worthless here. People won't just forget about me this game.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 14, 2010, 04:51:39 pm

Unvote.

Org, RedWarrior0, explain to me why we should lynch the other first.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 14, 2010, 04:53:24 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 14, 2010, 04:51:39 pm

Unvote.

Org, RedWarrior0, explain to me why we should lynch the other first.

Because Org is a Doctor.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 14, 2010, 04:53:41 pm

Well, honestly I'd rather lynch scum first.

And you already claimed?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 14, 2010, 04:54:06 pm

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 14, 2010, 04:53:41 pm

Well, honestly I'd rather lynch scum first.

And you already claimed?

no

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 14, 2010, 04:54:27 pm

Org, you earned this and you know it.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 14, 2010, 04:56:04 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 14, 2010, 04:54:27 pm

Org, you earned this and you know it.

No

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Leafsnail on April 14, 2010, 04:59:51 pm

Webadict, are you still up for lynch all lurkers?  I certainly am.  It should help discourage scum from hiding and avoiding attention.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 14, 2010, 05:02:56 pm

Of course, there isn't much to debate, only to decide. I've lurked horribly before. Very horribly, especially as survivor and as scum (well, Boot camp was an exception for the scumlurk). Org pisses people off with his manner of playing. I piss(ed) people off with lurking. However, the only policy lynch I would support is claimed scum, a selfvote in a no-jester game, confirmed scum, or a claim that fails. I say we try to lynch scum today.

Quote from: Org on April 14, 2010, 04:53:24 pm

Because Org is a Doctor.

Quote from: Org on April 14, 2010, 04:54:06 pm

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 14, 2010, 04:53:41 pm

And you already claimed?

no

This, Org.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 14, 2010, 05:04:52 pm

No

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mr.Person on April 14, 2010, 05:35:13 pm

What is with everyone's fascination with Tree Trunks?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 14, 2010, 05:40:15 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 14, 2010, 04:25:39 pm

Quote from: Kashyyk on April 14, 2010, 04:14:51 pm

Panda. What are the odds of you being an exterminator again?

Fuck you.

*ahem* Anyway.

Vector, why the intentional nonanswer?

OH SNAP SECOND VOTE MOTHERFUCKERSSSSS

Pandarsenic.

Now who's got the second vote?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 14, 2010, 05:45:59 pm

Org and I are tied.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 14, 2010, 05:48:16 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 14, 2010, 05:45:59 pm

Org and I are tied.

Talk about insulting.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mephansteras on April 14, 2010, 05:49:07 pm

The Whiteboard
Mr.Person: Vector
Org: Pandarsenic, ToonyMan
Pandarsenic: Kashyyk, webadict
ToonyMan: Jokerman-EXE
Vector: RedWarrior0
webadict: Leafsnail

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mr.Person on April 14, 2010, 05:49:49 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 14, 2010, 04:50:35 pm

TOONYMAN because I can can can!

You were scum last game, I'm just getting off to a good start and killing you NAO.

You must be aware that many of us players in this game would lynch ToonyMan for minor things, yes?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 14, 2010, 05:56:39 pm

Um...yes?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 14, 2010, 06:10:53 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 14, 2010, 05:48:16 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 14, 2010, 05:45:59 pm

Org and I are tied.

Talk about insulting.

I know.
To be tied with Pandar...

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 14, 2010, 06:46:56 pm

Quote from: Org on April 14, 2010, 06:10:53 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 14, 2010, 05:48:16 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 14, 2010, 05:45:59 pm

Org and I are tied.

Talk about insulting.

I know.
To be tied with Pandar...

I'm going to rape you with a pitchfork.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 14, 2010, 07:00:22 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 14, 2010, 04:50:35 pm

TOONYMAN because I can can can!

You were scum last game, I'm just getting off to a good start and killing you NAO.

I laugh at your vote, it's a fallacious logic.  Hah!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 14, 2010, 07:00:44 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 14, 2010, 06:46:56 pm

Quote from: Org on April 14, 2010, 06:10:53 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 14, 2010, 05:48:16 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 14, 2010, 05:45:59 pm

Org and I are tied.

Talk about insulting.

I know.
To be tied with Pandar...

I'm going to rape you with a pitchfork.

Harr a harr harr harr

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 14, 2010, 07:07:49 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 14, 2010, 06:46:56 pm

Quote from: Org on April 14, 2010, 06:10:53 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 14, 2010, 05:48:16 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 14, 2010, 05:45:59 pm

Org and I are tied.

Talk about insulting.

I know.
To be tied with Pandar...

I'm going to rape you with a pitchfork.

Jealous, much?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 14, 2010, 07:11:00 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 14, 2010, 06:46:56 pm

Quote from: Org on April 14, 2010, 06:10:53 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 14, 2010, 05:48:16 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 14, 2010, 05:45:59 pm

Org and I are tied.

Talk about insulting.

I know.
To be tied with Pandar...

I'm going to rape you with a pitchfork.

Hurr hurr hurr.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 14, 2010, 07:31:09 pm

I'm going to randomvote Kashyyk for no particular reason other than to say that I am here and that I am present and that I have not read the thread so far and I'll get back to you with some interesting questions sometime tomorrow.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 14, 2010, 08:08:33 pm

I am going to vote Kashyyk as well. I've got an ox-cart loaded with Dixieland musicians, and nowhere to steer it.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 14, 2010, 08:12:17 pm

YOU SICK MONSTER.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 14, 2010, 08:25:26 pm

What, it was a package deal... can't pass up value like that.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Leafsnail on April 14, 2010, 08:32:30 pm

Webby, question.

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 14, 2010, 04:59:51 pm

Webadict, are you still up for lynch all lurkers?  I certainly am.  It should help discourage scum from hiding and avoiding attention.

Quote from: Mr.Person

You must be aware that many of us players in this game would lynch ToonyMan for minor things, yes?

What's this supposed to mean?

Quote from: Solifuge

I am going to vote Kashyyk  as well. I've got an ox-cart loaded with Dixieland musicians, and nowhere to steer it.

Saaaame again.  What reaction would you be looking for after this vote?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 14, 2010, 08:48:54 pm

Sure. Why not? It's a good lesson to teach. Unless there's a reason not to.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 14, 2010, 09:43:44 pm

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 14, 2010, 04:59:51 pm

Webadict, are you still up for lynch all lurkers?  I certainly am.  It should help discourage scum from hiding and avoiding attention.

Hey, Leafsnail, a question. Are you still up for suspecting people who try to implement policy lynches in games that traditionally have not had them? I am.

Further, why are you proposing this specifically to webadict instead of everybody in the game? Do you need his stamp of approval to propose something? Very fishy, if you ask me.

Kashyyk: A question to justify my random vote. Who among our number do you think is easiest to catch as scum?

Vector: Same question as Kashyyk's.

JanusTwoFace: You and forsaken1111 have yet to say anything. What do you make of this?

Pandarsenic: I've seen your wintuition in action, and it is impressive. What do your elven eyes see does your wintuition tell you at this point?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Leafsnail on April 14, 2010, 09:54:19 pm

Bear in mind I suggested this policy before I received a role pm.  And I asked webadict since he agreed to it before, and it seemed like a decent question to ask a randomvote on.

Unvote and vote Solifuge pending an answer to previous question.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 14, 2010, 10:07:12 pm

Oh crap. I forgot to use the Gambler's Fallacy to say that...

Pandarsenic
Vector
RedWarrior0

will be scum.

Org will be third party.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 14, 2010, 10:12:02 pm

I SEE A LACK OF JANUS AND FORSAKEN.

All lurkers will be shot repeatably until death.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 14, 2010, 10:49:54 pm

Wow that filled up fast.  I totally wasn't expecting this to start for another day or three.  Sweet though.  Anyways, thoughts so far.

Spoiler: Long version (click to show/hide)

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 14, 2010, 03:54:44 pm

Anyway, vote Org.  We had an agreement!

Are you really going to do this?  Because I actually happen to agree with you.  Voting Org until he does something useful is as good a day 1 vote as any until more things happen.

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 14, 2010, 04:25:39 pm

Quote from: Kashyyk on April 14, 2010, 04:14:51 pm

Panda. What are the odds of you being an exterminator again?

Fuck you.

Quote from: Vector on April 14, 2010, 04:31:17 pm

If I got to pick my role, though, I'd probably want to be a dopp vig.  Double-kills are obscenely useful, and I tend to prefer killing roles to the softer sorts.  Otherwise, Adv. Dopp is pretty good, but since I consider myself a reasonably skilled scum player I don't really want to off myself like that.

Don't even think it.  Dopp Vig is too powerful.  Dopp War Vet is fine, but a Vig?  Have we ever had one in Paranormal?  I think the weighting is too high.  On the other hand, the Adv. Dopp is neat if you don't run into a War Vet *scowls at Vector* (Paranormal 13).

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 14, 2010, 04:51:13 pm

Also, my usual tactic is worthless here. People won't just forget about me this game.

That's a useful enough tactic if people aren't out to lynch lurkers.  Please don't do it.

Quote from: Org on April 14, 2010, 04:54:06 pm

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 14, 2010, 04:53:41 pm

And you already claimed?

no

Org fake-claimed Doc end game a round or so ago.  I'm not sure who believed it.  So no, I doubt he's a Doc this time around.

Quote from: Useless posts

*** Insert a dozen or so completely useless posts here ***

Why?  Just why?

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 14, 2010, 08:32:30 pm

Quote from: Mr.Person

You must be aware that many of us players in this game would lynch ToonyMan for minor things, yes?

Are you incapable of using the quote button?  It's not terribly unfortunate, but it's nice to be able to click on the quote link to go to the original post to make sure they haven't been tampered with.

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 14, 2010, 09:43:44 pm

JanusTwoFace: You and forsaken1111 have yet to say anything. What do you make of this?

I honestly didn't notice the game start.  I shouldn't make that mistake again now that it's running.

Quote from: webadict on April 14, 2010, 10:07:12 pm

Oh crap. I forgot to use the Gambler's Fallacy to say that...

Pandarsenic
Vector
RedWarrior0

will be scum.

Org will be third party.

Nah.  Almost completely wrong.  It's defeinatley Leafsnail and Forsaken as scum.  You're probably right about RedWarrior0 though.  (/BS)

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 14, 2010, 10:12:02 pm

I SEE A LACK OF JANUS AND FORSAKEN.

All lurkers will be shot repeatably until death.

Please don't shoot me!  I'm here now.  Go ahead and shoot Scumsaken though if he doesn't show up.  Now that I'm here, lynching lurkers sounds like a much better idea...

Short version:
- ToonyMan, do you actually want Org lynched?  Why?
- RedWarrior0, Org fake-claimed doc (was really a War Vet) in a previous round (was it 14 or 13?)
- I hadn't posted yet because I haven't checked my email all day.  I wasn't expecting the game to fill so quickly.
- What's with all the random crap (even worse than normal) at the top of
- Webadict is being much calmer this game.  A definite plus.
- I'm here now, so please don't shoot me!

More questions:
- Vector, is a calm Webadict more likely to be town or scum?
- ToonyMan, from the previous section.
- Solifuge, if you could choose, which third party would you most like to play? Why?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 14, 2010, 10:54:08 pm

Yeah I do want Org lynched, he's going to be useful or die.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 14, 2010, 11:33:02 pm

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 14, 2010, 08:32:30 pm

Quote from: Solifuge

I am going to vote Kashyyk  as well. I've got an ox-cart loaded with Dixieland musicians, and nowhere to steer it.

Saaaame again.  What reaction would you be looking for after this vote?

ProTip: The reaction I'm looking for is not Kashyyk's. >.o

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Vector on April 15, 2010, 12:29:27 am

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 14, 2010, 09:43:44 pm

Vector: Same question as Kashyyk's.

JanusTwoFace, then ToonyMan, then Pandarsenic.  They have the clearest meta, by far.

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 14, 2010, 10:49:54 pm

- Vector, is a calm Webadict more likely to be town or scum?

The only meta I know on calm/angry Webadict is with respect to me.  If he's calling me dumb, he's usually town.  If he's ignoring me, he's usually scum.

---

Warning: my brain is not functioning as well as it usually does.  It will hopefully be better in a couple of days, but until then my scumhunting ability will be somewhat impaired.

Additional: Mr.Person, answer the goddamned question.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 15, 2010, 12:52:02 am

Quote from: Vector on April 15, 2010, 12:29:27 am

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 14, 2010, 09:43:44 pm

Vector: Same question as Kashyyk's.

JanusTwoFace, then ToonyMan, then Pandarsenic.  They have the clearest meta, by far.

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 14, 2010, 10:49:54 pm

- Vector, is a calm Webadict more likely to be town or scum?

The only meta I know on calm/angry Webadict is with respect to me.  If he's calling me dumb, he's usually town.  If he's ignoring me, he's usually scum.

---

Warning: my brain is not functioning as well as it usually does.  It will hopefully be better in a couple of days, but until then my scumhunting ability will be somewhat impaired.

Additional: Mr.Person, answer the goddamned question.

Well, see, I could call you dumb for that statement, but then that would just be me not ignoring you.

You see the conundrum you've put me in.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Vector on April 15, 2010, 12:53:27 am

Quote from: webadict on April 15, 2010, 12:52:02 am

Well, see, I could call you dumb for that statement, but then that would just be me not ignoring you.

You see the conundrum you've put me in.

Call me whatever you like.  I'm reporting the patterns, not making any sort of resounding statement as to their significance.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 15, 2010, 01:35:57 am

Quote from: Vector on April 15, 2010, 12:53:27 am

Quote from: webadict on April 15, 2010, 12:52:02 am

Well, see, I could call you dumb for that statement, but then that would just be me not ignoring you.

You see the conundrum you've put me in.

Call me whatever you like.  I'm reporting the patterns, not making any sort of resounding statement as to their significance.

Or maybe that's what you want me to think.

But, who would you get rid of right now if you could?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 02:07:16 am

Didn't realize the game had started, I was asleep when it did.

Alright... Org.

That's my post. Hope you enjoyed it.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 15, 2010, 03:14:43 am

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 14, 2010, 09:43:44 pm

Pandarsenic: I've seen your wintuition in action, and it is impressive. What do your elven eyes see does your wintuition tell you at this point?

1) Don't buddy me
2) Org, regardless of alignment, is not going to be any help at all. If he flips scum we shouldn't read too much into his d1 interactions because he's just going to be a useless WIFOMing douchecock until we lynch him.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Kashyyk on April 15, 2010, 05:35:46 am

I love RVS dogpiles.

Jim: i reckon either Org or Red, simply because they're probably going to get lynched soon anyway.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 09:26:39 am

Org doesn't appear to have anything to say anyway.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 10:07:03 am

I invariably feel bad that Org gets the lynchmobile pointed toward him at the start of just about every game. Reminds me of the one kid who always gets picked last for the kickball team, and then never gets a chance at the plate.

He's a Doctor, Jim, not a Doppleganger!

Anywho, did you see what I did there Kashyyk, or did Sweet Lemon Brown and the Louisiana Kings distract you with the melodious tunes comming from their station wagon? Or were you perhaps too dazzled by my amazing deductive ability? Scum on day 1... how DO I do it?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 10:14:40 am

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 10:07:03 am

I invariably feel bad that Org gets the lynchmobile pointed toward him at the start of just about every game. Reminds me of the one kid who always gets picked last for the kickball team, and then never gets a chance at the plate.

Why are you defending him?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 15, 2010, 10:17:05 am

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 10:07:03 am

I invariably feel bad that Org gets the lynchmobile pointed toward him at the start of just about every game. Reminds me of the one kid who always gets picked last for the kickball team, and then never gets a chance at the plate.

He's a Doctor, Jim, not a Doppleganger!

Anywho, did you see what I did there Kashyyk, or did Sweet Lemon Brown and the Louisiana Kings distract you with the melodious tunes comming from their station wagon? Or were you perhaps too dazzled by my amazing deductive ability? Scum on day 1... how DO I do it?

He knew what this was!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 10:33:06 am

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 10:14:40 am

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 10:07:03 am

I invariably feel bad that Org gets the lynchmobile pointed toward him at the start of just about every game. Reminds me of the one kid who always gets picked last for the kickball team, and then never gets a chance at the plate.

Why are you defending him?

Because I'm the White Knight of the Internets, and it is my duty to protect every .Web, .Com, .Gov, and even .Org from the forces of the Evilnet.

P.S. I don't much care for .Edus, though. Too srys, without sufficient lulz.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 15, 2010, 10:37:41 am

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 10:33:06 am

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 10:14:40 am

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 10:07:03 am

I invariably feel bad that Org gets the lynchmobile pointed toward him at the start of just about every game. Reminds me of the one kid who always gets picked last for the kickball team, and then never gets a chance at the plate.

Why are you defending him?

Because I'm the White Knight of the Internets, and it is my duty to protect every .Web, .Com, .Gov, and even .Org from the forces of the Evilnet.

P.S. I don't much care for .Edus, though. Too srys, without sufficient lulz.

Lol. It's funny on so many levels!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 10:39:27 am

I am made of pure, concentrated wit.

Out of curiosity Toonyman, are you consciously or subconsciously trying a new behavior set this game? If you're aware of it, what is it?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Eduren on April 15, 2010, 10:39:51 am

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 10:33:06 am

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 10:14:40 am

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 10:07:03 am

I invariably feel bad that Org gets the lynchmobile pointed toward him at the start of just about every game. Reminds me of the one kid who always gets picked last for the kickball team, and then never gets a chance at the plate.

Why are you defending him?

P.S. I don't much care for .Edus, though. Too srys, without sufficient lulz.

:'(

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 10:58:11 am

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 10:39:27 am

I am made of pure, concentrated wit.

Out of curiosity Toonyman, are you consciously or subconsciously trying a new behavior set this game? If you're aware of it, what is it?

You dodged the question!

Before becoming a hypocrite I'll answer yours.  If it was subconsciously I wouldn't know and if it was consciously I would tell you.  I'm not any different than any other town Toony.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 11:04:48 am

I notice a definite increase in your Serious Business level. You seem less comfortable.

Also, I totally didn't dodge your question. Org is a poor defenseless damsel, and I must ride to his rescue on my iSteed.

Moreover, I'm busy scumhunting! *waggles fingers mysteriously, withdrawing into the shadows of a poorly lit hallway, and tripping over a box*

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mephansteras on April 15, 2010, 11:09:27 am

The Whiteboard
Kashyyk: Jim Groovester, Solifuge
Mr.Person: Vector
Org: forsaken1111, Pandarsenic, ToonyMan
Pandarsenic: Kashyyk, webadict
Solifuge: Leafsnail
ToonyMan: Jokerman-EXE
Vector: RedWarrior0

---

Reminder: Day 1 ends ~5pm Pacific Friday

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 15, 2010, 11:09:46 am

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 10:58:11 am

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 10:39:27 am

I am made of pure, concentrated wit.

Out of curiosity Toonyman, are you consciously or subconsciously trying a new behavior set this game? If you're aware of it, what is it?

You dodged the question!

Before becoming a hypocrite I'll answer yours.  If it was subconsciously I wouldn't know and if it was consciously I would tell you.  I'm not any different than any other town Toony.

On the contrary, you are always different, but I would relay it more to subconsciously.

Anyhow, who would you rather we lynched?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 11:28:23 am

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 11:04:48 am

Org is a poor defenseless damsel, and I must ride to his rescue on my iSteed.

Then give cause to pursue another.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 11:41:36 am

FORSAKEN1111 caused a General Production Fault in module CHIVALRY32.DLL at 0002:24AF. SCUM_CRUSADE == FALSE.

ABORT, RETRY, FAIL?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 11:45:36 am

You fail

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 11:55:43 am

Quote from: webadict on April 15, 2010, 11:09:46 am

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 10:58:11 am

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 10:39:27 am

I am made of pure, concentrated wit.

Out of curiosity Toonyman, are you consciously or subconsciously trying a new behavior set this game? If you're aware of it, what is it?

You dodged the question!

Before becoming a hypocrite I'll answer yours.  If it was subconsciously I wouldn't know and if it was consciously I would tell you.  I'm not any different than any other town Toony.

On the contrary, you are always different, but I would relay it more to subconsciously.

Anyhow, who would you rather we lynched?

Org or Solifuge.

Org right now.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 12:04:46 pm

Unvote.

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 11:55:43 am

Quote from: webadict on April 15, 2010, 11:09:46 am

Anyhow, who would you rather we lynched?

Org or Solifuge.

Org right now.

Of the two, I'd rather Org as well... however, I can't imagine being the first lynch in 3/4 games is a pleasant experience for him as a player, in the metagame sense.

If I were to point the finger elsewhere, there have been more than enough 1-post players who literally have tossed out a randomvote with no subsequent material, to warrent the lynchmobile's actual attention.

For instance, dear sweet JokermanEXE... just how executable are you?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 12:11:11 pm

Org is never lynched first day because of people like you.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 15, 2010, 12:19:45 pm

Unvote Kashyyk.

Solifuge, is this jester act you're pulling really all that helpful?

Quote from: Eduren on April 15, 2010, 10:39:51 am

:'(

Is that all you have to say for yourself?

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 15, 2010, 03:14:43 am

1) Don't buddy me
2) Org, regardless of alignment, is not going to be any help at all. If he flips scum we shouldn't read too much into his d1 interactions because he's just going to be a useless WIFOMing douchecock until we lynch him.

I take it back. I've seen your utopia wintuition and it is more like a fruitopia failtuition.

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 12:11:11 pm

Org is never lynched first day because of people like you.

Can somebody explain all the Org hate to me? As far as I can tell, he's done his typical Day 1 Org crap and it doesn't even look all that serious to me. So why are you and Pandarsenic and a couple other people pushing for an Org lynch?

FAKEEDIT:

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 12:04:46 pm

For instance, dear sweet JokermanEXE... just how executable are you?

Okay, that is pretty funny. But the question still stands.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 12:23:37 pm

He does his Org crap every game

Why are you defending him scum?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 15, 2010, 12:25:00 pm

Why are you pushing a lynch on him scum?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 15, 2010, 12:25:17 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 15, 2010, 12:29:27 am

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 14, 2010, 09:43:44 pm

Vector: Same question as Kashyyk's.

JanusTwoFace, then ToonyMan, then Pandarsenic.  They have the clearest meta, by far.

What am I clearly meta'ing?

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 02:07:16 am

Didn't realize the game had started, I was asleep when it did.

Alright... Org.

That's my post. Hope you enjoyed it.

That... was completely useless.  And the rest of your posts:

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 11:28:23 am

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 11:04:48 am

Org is a poor defenseless damsel, and I must ride to his rescue on my iSteed.

Then give cause to pursue another.

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 11:45:36 am

You fail

Do you have anything constructive to add?  Anything at all?  Normally I go after Org for not being overly useful in the early game, but you're definitely ahead (or behind I guess) him right now.

Forsaken1111

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 12:28:39 pm

~Here a scum, there a scum, everywhere a scum-bum.

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 15, 2010, 12:19:45 pm

Unvote Kashyyk.

Solifuge, is this jester act you're pulling really all that helpful?

Jim, the "jester act" is just my method of scumhunting. I'm merely looking for a different set of reactions out of people than you are. By asking transparent and largely senseless "Who is the second cousin of the most unlikely scum's worst nemesis?" questions, we're largely wasting time. Everyone knows what's going on in the random vote phase, and when players are aware of it, it has no power. Thus, I must improvise.

Moreover, it's a chance for me to excercise my Vorpal Wit... even if it's more of just a series of bad puns and self-deprecating jokes. As ever, it is just how I roll.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 15, 2010, 12:31:07 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 12:28:39 pm

Jim, the "jester act" is just my method of scumhunting.

But any method of scumhunting is worth only how much it helps you find scum. Is it helping you find scum?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 12:34:53 pm

I'll leave that to Meph to reveal. Still, does any alternative really bear that much fruit? How much can you trust your personal interpretation of percieved reactions to silly questions or silly words?

But yes, Mrs.EXE, is Jokerman home, and can he come out to play?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 12:48:15 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 15, 2010, 12:25:00 pm

Why are you pushing a lynch on him scum?

Because he's scum.

Why are you defending him AGAIN scum?  He hasn't even showed up!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 12:48:58 pm

Today.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 12:52:14 pm

Clearly the only way to resolve such well-made and countered arguments is by bashing your heads against one another until one of you falls unconscious.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 12:55:49 pm

Or until the Org comes.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 15, 2010, 12:56:44 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 12:48:15 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 15, 2010, 12:25:00 pm

Why are you pushing a lynch on him scum?

Because he's scum.

Why are you defending him AGAIN scum?  He hasn't even showed up!

Was I defending him? I believe I asked why people wanted to lynch him. I believe that calls for an explanation of ones suspicions.

If you can explain to my satisfaction why Org is scum instead of just repeating it over and over again, I will vote for him.

Time to put your written communication skills to work.

Can ToonyMan:
1) Put forth a thesis.
2) Find supporting evidence.
3) Convincingly argue his thesis.

I suspect ToonyMan cannot. So, until he can, ToonyMan.

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 12:52:14 pm

Clearly the only way to resolve such well-made and countered arguments is by bashing your heads against one another until one of you falls unconscious.

Quiet, you. I don't need your witty interjections while I'm questioning people.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 12:59:40 pm

Don't you need to have a supporting defensive as well?

Org is scum until he shows up and does shit, like I've said.
The evidence is HE'S NOT HERE/DOING ANYTHING USEFUL.
I'm arguing because you're defending his horrible play.

Now I ask, why are you voting me?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 01:06:42 pm

Perhaps pause to consider that Org, in this thread, has posted more than 3 other players. Essentially, you've latched onto an individual, and are not willing to let go until he meets some arbitrary criteria... as has your buddy Jim with you.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 01:17:47 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 01:06:42 pm

Perhaps pause to consider that Org, in this thread, has posted more than 3 other players. Essentially, you've latched onto an individual, and are not willing to let go until he meets some arbitrary criteria... as has your buddy Jim with you.

I'm not following some code you made up, I'm playing my own way.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 15, 2010, 01:19:24 pm

Golly Soli, you're an impatient one!

And zounds, you're pointing the *ominous voice* FINGER OF SUSPICION at me! I thought you were some kind of iKnight, but then, so am I! Perhaps that's why we're butting heads.

To answer your accusation, I gave my RV and then was too busy laughing at the random crap to say anything (plus I didn't have much to contribute), and then I fell asleep and I'm just now getting back to reading.

At the moment, I'll keep my vote on ToonyMan because I'm interested in this emerging debate between him and Org. He got THOOPER THERIOUTH about the whole lurking thing, which I thought was just a joke.

And Org's posts can't really be counted, because there's not exactly content in them.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 01:20:56 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 15, 2010, 01:19:24 pm

And Org's posts can't really be counted, because there's not exactly content in them.

Give this man a brownie.

Org's post NEED TO COUNT.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Vector on April 15, 2010, 01:27:31 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 15, 2010, 01:35:57 am

Or maybe that's what you want me to think.

But, who would you get rid of right now if you could?

In a world where I'm tossing unreadable people, you die.

In a world where I'm tossing people I think are scum, Mr.Person is my best lead right now.


Given my lack of data, though, at this point I'd be killing based on unreadability, rather than scumballs who need a speedy quicknoose.  That means you.

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 15, 2010, 12:25:17 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 15, 2010, 12:29:27 am

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 14, 2010, 09:43:44 pm

Vector: Same question as Kashyyk's.

JanusTwoFace, then ToonyMan, then Pandarsenic.  They have the clearest meta, by far.

What am I clearly meta'ing?

You're town.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 02:16:38 pm

Alright more content.

I'll explain my vote on Org.

In past games, Org has been a hindrance to whatever team he is on. A vote for Org will either remove a townie who will screw it up for us or remove a scum. Both of these are good.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 15, 2010, 02:20:04 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 02:16:38 pm

Alright more content.

I'll explain my vote on Org.

In past games, Org has been a hindrance to whatever team he is on. A vote for Org will either remove a townie who will screw it up for us or remove a scum. Both of these are good.

Perfectly logical and true to boot.  I commend you.  Except for the minor fact that essentially the same thing has already been said this round several times.

Do you have any comments on any of the other (non-Org) players?  Preferably something new or a comment on something older that adds a new twice...

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 02:33:29 pm

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 15, 2010, 02:20:04 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 02:16:38 pm

Alright more content.

I'll explain my vote on Org.

In past games, Org has been a hindrance to whatever team he is on. A vote for Org will either remove a townie who will screw it up for us or remove a scum. Both of these are good.

Perfectly logical and true to boot.  I commend you.  Except for the minor fact that essentially the same thing has already been said this round several times.

Do you have any comments on any of the other (non-Org) players?  Preferably something new or a comment on something older that adds a new twice...

Sure...

Vector says a lot while saying very little. She thinks Janus is town, Person is Scum, and Web is unreadable, and gives no reasons for any of these opinions.

Toony is less crazy than usual. Did you get new medication toon?

I don't know Jokerman-EXE but his posts seems wordy and still strangely devoid of relevant content. He likes to confirm other people's statements.

Solifuge has a silly-man routine going on. I don't know him either, but this feels forced. Possible cover? "Like me because I am silly and you shouldn't vote me"?

Jim seems defensive when accused of defending Org, but this is understandable to a point. He demands that Toony provide evidence against Org when he himself provides none FOR Org.

Webadict is webadict, unjustified ego big as the moon. He's playing the same as he usually does.

Eduren has zero content.

Kashyyk thinks Red or Org will be lynched but voted Pandar...

Is that enough? I have a headache.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 02:35:55 pm

I don't take pills because I don't believe they work.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 15, 2010, 02:45:20 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 12:59:40 pm

Don't you need to have a supporting defensive as well?

Org is scum until he shows up and does shit, like I've said.
The evidence is HE'S NOT HERE/DOING ANYTHING USEFUL.
I'm arguing because you're defending his horrible play.

Now I ask, why are you voting me?

A supporting defensive what? You must mean evidence supporting my own conclusion.

I have the same evidence as you: his three or so posts, but I draw a different conclusion. I see the regular town Org bullshit where you see scum. I don't think that's reason enough to lynch him.

Why am I voting you? I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill with Org and I don't like it.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 02:50:43 pm

Oh well, how do you expect to win if you don't take attack Mr. Defensive-on-a-guy-you-don't-know?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 02:56:07 pm

Unvote

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 02:33:29 pm

Solifuge has a silly-man routine going on. I don't know him either, but this feels forced. Possible cover? "Like me because I am silly and you shouldn't vote me"?

"I never desired to please the rabble. What pleased them, I did not learn; and what I knew was far removed from their understanding." </Pretentious Quote>

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 02:33:29 pm

Is that enough? I have a headache.

I find this attitude interesting. It's as though you're approaching interactions with other players from a perspective that necessitates satisfying the demands of others enough to negate their suspicions, before retiring from the fray. Moreover, you just threw out reasons why EVERYONE is suspicious.

As such, Forsaken1111.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 03:03:49 pm

I was asked for my opinion on people and I gave it. And I do have a headache. This is your reason for voting me? Fine.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 15, 2010, 03:24:33 pm

Quote from: Forsaken

Didn't realize the game had started, I was asleep when it did.

Alright... Org.

That's my post. Hope you enjoyed it.

Sup
Solifuge is buddying
Toonyman

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 03:25:17 pm

Reason for the vote Org?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 03:26:26 pm

Most epically disjointed post ever. The caboose to your train of thought is waaaaaay off toward the horizon to the point that I can't even hope to follow it.

But I do love you, Org.

*Brohug*

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 03:26:58 pm

Quote from: Org on April 15, 2010, 03:24:33 pm

Sup
Solifuge is buddying
Toonyman

I agree on Solifuge.

Would you do me a favor and explain your vote on Toony? Is it more than retribution? A good reason and a bit more participation would go a long way towards proving that you intend to be useful this round.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 15, 2010, 03:28:14 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 03:25:17 pm

Reason for the vote Org?

Don't worry soli It is cool.

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 03:03:49 pm

I was asked for my opinion on people and I gave it. And I do have a headache. This is your reason for voting me? Fine.

No toonyman.
THis si why:I have things, like sleep and school. I can't just post whenever, site is banned at school and stuff. Duh.
Stop pushing a wagon bro

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 03:28:35 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 03:26:26 pm

Most epically disjointed post ever. The caboose to your train of thought is waaaaaay off toward the horizon to the point that I can't even hope to follow it.

But I do love you, Org.

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 03:26:26 pm

Most epically disjointed post ever. The caboose to your train of thought is waaaaaay off toward the horizon to the point that I can't even hope to follow it.

But I do love you, Org.

*Brohug*

You edited your post, that's a warning.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 03:29:27 pm

Quote from: Org on April 15, 2010, 03:28:14 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 03:25:17 pm

Reason for the vote Org?

Don't worry soli It is cool.

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 03:03:49 pm

I was asked for my opinion on people and I gave it. And I do have a headache. This is your reason for voting me? Fine.

No toonyman.
THis si why:I have things, like sleep and school. I can't just post whenever, site is banned at school and stuff. Duh.
Stop pushing a wagon bro

Then defend yourself?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 15, 2010, 03:30:32 pm

Wasting someone because he isnt here all the time isnt cool because I am good just not all the time.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 03:31:09 pm

That took me about 3 seconds... truely your ninja skills are incredibly accute.

Alas, my devious plan to give Org a Brohug has been revealed to the world. I may as well give up now.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 03:33:37 pm

Quote from: Org on April 15, 2010, 03:30:32 pm

Wasting someone because he isnt here all the time isnt cool because I am good just not all the time.

There isn't anything worth reading in this post Org.

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 03:31:09 pm

That took me about 3 seconds... truely your ninja skills are incredibly accute.

Alas, my devious plan to give Org a Brohug has been revealed to the world. I may as well give up now.

You admit it then.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 15, 2010, 03:34:50 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 03:33:37 pm

Quote from: Org on April 15, 2010, 03:30:32 pm

Wasting someone because he isnt here all the time isnt cool because I am good just not all the time.

There isn't anything worth reading in this post Org.

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 03:31:09 pm

That took me about 3 seconds... truely your ninja skills are incredibly accute.

Alas, my devious plan to give Org a Brohug has been revealed to the world. I may as well give up now.

You admit it then.

Why pushin it brosky?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 03:35:41 pm

Quote from: Org on April 15, 2010, 03:34:50 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 03:33:37 pm

Quote from: Org on April 15, 2010, 03:30:32 pm

Wasting someone because he isnt here all the time isnt cool because I am good just not all the time.

There isn't anything worth reading in this post Org.

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 03:31:09 pm

That took me about 3 seconds... truely your ninja skills are incredibly accute.

Alas, my devious plan to give Org a Brohug has been revealed to the world. I may as well give up now.

You admit it then.

Why pushin it brosky?

I plan to not let scum get away?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Vector on April 15, 2010, 03:40:10 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 02:33:29 pm

Vector says a lot while saying very little. She thinks Janus is town, Person is Scum, and Web is unreadable, and gives no reasons for any of these opinions.

I'm still rebooting after a total mental shutdown on Tuesday.  I'm pretty sure Person is scum and Solifuge is town, but telling you precisely why is very hard (if not impossible) right now.  ToonyMan seems like town to me at the moment, though I may change my opinion on that one D2.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 15, 2010, 03:41:19 pm

For the time being, I'll unvote and post more in a little bit.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 03:56:21 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 03:35:41 pm

Quote from: Org on April 15, 2010, 03:34:50 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 03:33:37 pm

Quote from: Org on April 15, 2010, 03:30:32 pm

Wasting someone because he isnt here all the time isnt cool because I am good just not all the time.

There isn't anything worth reading in this post Org.

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 03:31:09 pm

That took me about 3 seconds... truely your ninja skills are incredibly accute.

Alas, my devious plan to give Org a Brohug has been revealed to the world. I may as well give up now.

You admit it then.

Why pushin it brosky?

I plan to not let scum get away?

D'aww, Org loves me too. Feel the Bromance.

Also, Toony has hereby KICKED REASON TO THE CURB, and for it has temporarily lost what credibility he had with me.

My Scumspects given what I know now, in no particular order, are:
- Toonyman, for fetching your drill, and tunnelling on a player using logic that could apply to anyone(could just be a preoccupation with offing Org though), and your twitchy playstyle.
- Forsaken111, for defensively casting unfocused suspicion on everyone when prompted, followed by confronting a lynch vote head on only to passively accept it ("Sure, go ahead and vote for me!"). Universal suspicion is tolerable, but says nothing, and is an easy out for scum, who by default know who to trust, and have to take some time to warm up to their false townie "persona".

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 15, 2010, 03:59:43 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 02:33:29 pm

Vector says a lot while saying very little. She thinks Janus is town, Person is Scum, and Web is unreadable, and gives no reasons for any of these opinions.

It's day 1.  Having any evidence at all is great, having an opion is good enough at this point.  At least she posted opinions without making it sound like teeth were being pulled.

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 02:33:29 pm

Toony is less crazy than usual. Did you get new medication toon?

This one's true.  From just the first day guess, Toony is probably either town or has managed to completely revise his scum game.

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 02:33:29 pm

I don't know Jokerman-EXE but his posts seems wordy and still strangely devoid of relevant content. He likes to confirm other people's statements.

This is normal.  The second half is not terribly useful and usually a scumtell though, so that's a good sign.

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 02:33:29 pm

Jim seems defensive when accused of defending Org, but this is understandable to a point. He demands that Toony provide evidence against Org when he himself provides none FOR Org.

To be fair, Org is impossible to read.  So lynching him before the end of the game is a semi-viable if not praiseworthy strategy.

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 02:33:29 pm

Webadict is webadict, unjustified ego big as the moon. He's playing the same as he usually does.

Webadict is nothing like he was last game.  This is a good thing.

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 02:33:29 pm

Is that enough? I have a headache.

It's enough for a decent post, but it would be nice if people didn't have to push to get them out of you.

I can sympathize with the headache though.  Take some head-drugs, take a nap, whatever helps and come back later.  :D

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 15, 2010, 03:41:19 pm

For the time being, I'll unvote and post more in a little bit.

*pet peeve of mine*

Please actually do come back and post more later when you say you will.  Otherwise it looks rather-over-much like you are acting helpful without doing anything as such.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 15, 2010, 04:00:57 pm

Yes, I know. I will.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 04:23:50 pm

From my attacks thus far I concur that Org, Solifuge, and Jim Groovster are the scum team.

Org reactions to my attack were one of OMGUS and invalid content.
Solifuge is a refugee in audacity.
Jim is a over-defensive dude protecting someone he does not know.

That is all. (for now)

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Leafsnail on April 15, 2010, 04:29:16 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 14, 2010, 11:33:02 pm

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 14, 2010, 08:32:30 pm

Quote from: Solifuge

I am going to vote Kashyyk  as well. I've got an ox-cart loaded with Dixieland musicians, and nowhere to steer it.

Saaaame again.  What reaction would you be looking for after this vote?

ProTip: The reaction I'm looking for is not Kashyyk's. >.o

Whose is it then?

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 10:07:03 am

I invariably feel bad that Org gets the lynchmobile pointed toward him at the start of just about every game. Reminds me of the one kid who always gets picked last for the kickball team, and then never gets a chance at the plate.

He's a Doctor, Jim, not a Doppleganger!

Anywho, did you see what I did there Kashyyk, or did Sweet Lemon Brown and the Louisiana Kings distract you with the melodious tunes comming from their station wagon? Or were you perhaps too dazzled by my amazing deductive ability? Scum on day 1... how DO I do it?

This looks like unbelievably clumsy chainsaw defence to me.  My question is: Why are you doing it?

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 15, 2010, 12:19:45 pm

I take it back. I've seen your utopia wintuition and it is more like a fruitopia failtuition.

So why did you say it in the first place?  What, is Pandar accusing you of buddying enough to make you back the hell away?

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 15, 2010, 12:25:00 pm

Why are you pushing a lynch on him scum?

Quite a big change in opinion, here.  What makes you think Org is town now?

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 15, 2010, 12:56:44 pm

Time to put your written communication skills to work.

Can ToonyMan:
1) Put forth a thesis.
2) Find supporting evidence.
3) Convincingly argue his thesis.

I suspect ToonyMan cannot. So, until he can, ToonyMan.

Wait.  You're criticising him for voting Org and then vote him with VERY VERY similar reasons?

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 15, 2010, 12:56:44 pm

Time to put your written communication skills to work.

Can ToonyMan:
1) Put forth a thesis.
2) Find supporting evidence.
3) Convincingly argue his thesis.

I suspect ToonyMan cannot. So, until he can, ToonyMan.

Wait.  You're criticising him for voting Org and then vote him with VERY VERY similar reasons?

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 03:26:58 pm

Quote from: Org on April 15, 2010, 03:24:33 pm

Sup
Solifuge is buddying
Toonyman

I agree on Solifuge.

Would you do me a favor and explain your vote on Toony? Is it more than retribution? A good reason and a bit more participation would go a long way towards proving that you intend to be useful this round.

This is a ridiculously mild way of addressing Org.No questions about whether or not he's scum, just advice to him on how to play better.  And agreeing.  Oh god, the buddying.

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 04:23:50 pm

From my attacks thus far I concur that Org, Solifuge, and Jim Groovster are the scum team.

Org reactions to my attack were one of OMGUS and invalid content.
Solifuge is a refugee in audacity.
Jim is a over-defensive dude protecting someone he does not know.

That is all. (for now)

WHY ARE YOU PROVIDING A SCUMTEAM SO EARLY

Although I do agree that Jim and Solifuge require further examination.  They're both defending Org and attacking his attackers for no apparent reason.  Jim also seemed to switch positions, which was strange.

Org himself is currently fairly null.  He acts fairly randomly in many situations... I'd understand fighting a policy lynch, but I don't see why people would be calling him town at this point.  Forsaken has been doing some of the same too.

This was the scumhunting part of the post.  What follows will be the Lynch All Lurkers analysis.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 15, 2010, 04:35:49 pm

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 15, 2010, 03:59:43 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 02:33:29 pm

Webadict is webadict, unjustified ego big as the moon. He's playing the same as he usually does.

Webadict is nothing like he was last game.  This is a good thing.

Wasn't I town last time?

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 15, 2010, 04:00:57 pm

Yes, I know. I will.

RedWarrior0.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Leafsnail on April 15, 2010, 04:39:28 pm

I'll give a simple figure:
Amount of time that has passed since player's last post (rounded off to nearest hour)

Leafsnail - 0
ToonyMan - 0
RedWarrior0 - 0
JanusTwoface - 1
Solifuge - 1
Vector - 1
Org - 1
Forsaken - 1
Jim Groovester - 2
Jokerman-EXE  - 3
webadict - 5
Eduren - 6
Kashyyk - 11
Pandarsenic - 13

Aaaand that's everyone.  Looking ok so far.  I'll make these every now and again so noone slips under the radar.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 04:41:58 pm

The rasky Webadict can change the flow of time!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 15, 2010, 04:43:03 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 04:41:58 pm

The rasky Webadict can change the flow of time!

MUAHAHAHA! I'M THE TIMEBENDER! NOW TO WILL YOU OUT OF EXISTENCE AGAIN!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 05:24:19 pm

Quote from: Org on April 15, 2010, 03:28:14 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 03:03:49 pm

I was asked for my opinion on people and I gave it. And I do have a headache. This is your reason for voting me? Fine.

No toonyman.
THis si why:I have things, like sleep and school. I can't just post whenever, site is banned at school and stuff. Duh.
Stop pushing a wagon bro

That wasn't a response to you Org.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Leafsnail on April 15, 2010, 05:44:34 pm

Eh, still within 24 hours, I don't care too much :P.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 15, 2010, 05:51:00 pm

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 15, 2010, 04:29:16 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 15, 2010, 12:19:45 pm

I take it back. I've seen your utopia wintuition and it is more like a fruitopia failtuition.

So why did you say it in the first place?  What, is Pandar accusing you of buddying enough to make you back the hell away?

It was a question to throw out there at the beginning of the game to get people talking. I made a snide response because it made me smile.

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 15, 2010, 04:29:16 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 15, 2010, 12:25:00 pm

Why are you pushing a lynch on him scum?

Quite a big change in opinion, here.  What makes you think Org is town now?

I haven't seen evidence of Org being scum yet. Where did my opinion change?

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 15, 2010, 04:29:16 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 15, 2010, 12:56:44 pm

I suspect ToonyMan cannot. So, until he can, ToonyMan.

Wait.  You're criticising him for voting Org and then vote him with VERY VERY similar reasons?

So what, I'm a hypocrite.

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 15, 2010, 04:29:16 pm

Although I do agree that Jim and Solifuge require further examination.  They're both defending Org and attacking his attackers for no apparent reason.  Jim also seemed to switch positions, which was strange.

Coward.

Is it too much to say you suspect me, instead of weaseling out and saying I "require further examination" or that I look "strange"? I would think you were town if you did. But you didn't so I think you're scum.

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 15, 2010, 04:39:28 pm

I'll give a simple figure:
Amount of time that has passed since player's last post (rounded off to nearest hour)

Leafsnail - 0
ToonyMan - 0
RedWarrior0 - 0
JanusTwoface - 1
...

Aaaand that's everyone.  Looking ok so far.  I'll make these every now and again so noone slips under the radar.

"Hey, look, everybody. I'm participating by making useless contributions!"

Did you really need to count how many hours ago people posted? Is there any meaning about how long ago people posted? No, not at all. You may as well count the number of posts between their last and the current post, and use that as a rubric of participation instead. It will still be meaningless.

So why did you bother tabulating the number of hours? There's no meaning behind it since people have lives and are not always available to posting. I don't care that that's what you were going to do, it's still completely useless. Did you do it just to be able to make fluff posts where you don't ruffle any feathers by suspecting anyone? That's what I think anyway.

Unvote ToonyMan. This seems familiar to the crap you were pulling in Toon Mafia 6, so enjoy your spot on my scum shortlist, Leafsnail.

Quote from: Vector on April 15, 2010, 03:40:10 pm

I'm still rebooting after a total mental shutdown on Tuesday.  I'm pretty sure Person is scum and Solifuge is town, but telling you precisely why is very hard (if not impossible) right now.  ToonyMan seems like town to me at the moment, though I may change my opinion on that one D2.

I dislike that you've created for yourself an excuse for lurking, apparently through Day 2. Whether the excuse is legitimate or not does not concern me at the moment. Suffice it to say, I'm going to keep my one you.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 05:53:34 pm

Jim sounds like he needs a hug.

Jim, I suspect you buddy. Don't feel left out. :P

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 15, 2010, 05:55:21 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 05:53:34 pm

Jim sounds like he needs a hug.

Jim, I suspect you buddy. Don't feel left out. :P

Don't buddy.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 15, 2010, 05:56:48 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 15, 2010, 05:55:21 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 05:53:34 pm

Jim sounds like he needs a hug.

Jim, I suspect you buddy. Don't feel left out. :P

Don't buddy.

He buddies to me by suspecting me?

Strange mafia game we're playing.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 15, 2010, 05:57:17 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 15, 2010, 05:56:48 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 15, 2010, 05:55:21 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 05:53:34 pm

Jim sounds like he needs a hug.

Jim, I suspect you buddy. Don't feel left out. :P

Don't buddy.

He buddies to me by suspecting me?

Strange mafia game we're playing.

That's exactly how he's buddying though.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 06:01:25 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 15, 2010, 05:55:21 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 05:53:34 pm

Jim sounds like he needs a hug.

Jim, I suspect you buddy. Don't feel left out. :P

Don't buddy.

Fuck off webadict

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 15, 2010, 06:03:05 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 06:01:25 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 15, 2010, 05:55:21 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 05:53:34 pm

Jim sounds like he needs a hug.

Jim, I suspect you buddy. Don't feel left out. :P

Don't buddy.

Fuck off webadict

Quit buddying up to webadict.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 06:04:12 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 15, 2010, 06:03:05 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 06:01:25 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 15, 2010, 05:55:21 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 05:53:34 pm

Jim sounds like he needs a hug.

Jim, I suspect you buddy. Don't feel left out. :P

Don't buddy.

Fuck off webadict

Quit buddying up to webadict.

My bad. I'll stop buddying by insult and suspicion.

Man I'm a good buddy.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Eduren on April 15, 2010, 06:05:57 pm

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 15, 2010, 04:39:28 pm

I'll give a simple figure:
Amount of time that has passed since player's last post (rounded off to nearest hour)

Leafsnail - 0
ToonyMan - 0
RedWarrior0 - 0
JanusTwoface - 1
Solifuge - 1
Vector - 1
Org - 1
Forsaken - 1
Jim Groovester - 2
Jokerman-EXE  - 3
webadict - 5
Eduren - 6
Kashyyk - 11
Pandarsenic - 13

Aaaand that's everyone.  Looking ok so far.  I'll make these every now and again so noone slips under the radar.

:D

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 06:08:48 pm

Eduren, seriously. Post something or fucking leave.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 15, 2010, 06:09:26 pm

I'd like to point out how this is proving my point about how tracking the hours between posts is a useless measure of participation.

Do you have anything to say, Eduren, or will we just have to lynch you for flagrant and deliberate and unapologetic lurking?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Eduren on April 15, 2010, 06:13:55 pm

Go ahead. Just try to lynch me!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 15, 2010, 06:14:49 pm

Choose the second one.

Quote from: Eduren on April 15, 2010, 06:13:55 pm

Go ahead. Just try to lynch me!

And you have invoked the Annoying Clause of LAL, Eduren.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 06:15:45 pm

Quote from: Eduren on April 15, 2010, 06:13:55 pm

Go ahead. Just try to lynch me!

Fine.

Unvote, Vote Eduren.

Maybe next time you'll play the game.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 15, 2010, 06:16:23 pm

Money that he is alien with DMB.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 15, 2010, 06:16:43 pm

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 15, 2010, 06:16:23 pm

Money that he is alien with DMB.

Then make people you wish to see die lynch him.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mephansteras on April 15, 2010, 06:17:06 pm

I'm just going to ignore those, as Eduren is not in the game.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 06:17:47 pm

-.- Sigh...

Fine, back to Org. Eduren, that's some shit. Get out

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 15, 2010, 06:18:52 pm

I think it would've been funny if you marked those and we lynched him.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Vector on April 15, 2010, 06:19:14 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 15, 2010, 05:51:00 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 15, 2010, 03:40:10 pm

I'm still rebooting after a total mental shutdown on Tuesday.  I'm pretty sure Person is scum and Solifuge is town, but telling you precisely why is very hard (if not impossible) right now.  ToonyMan seems like town to me at the moment, though I may change my opinion on that one D2.

I dislike that you've created for yourself an excuse for lurking, apparently through Day 2. Whether the excuse is legitimate or not does not concern me at the moment. Suffice it to say, I'm going to keep my one you.

Or, more relevantly, I had to withdraw from my university thanks to being too goddamned crazy and proceeded to become even more crazy.  I am providing you with a warning because during the event I was too screwed over to factor 78 or pass any of my other basic mental tests (like "can I stop gibbering and rocking?  No?  Okay, apparently not.").  Yesterday, I was incapable of completing a basic train of thought, such as "why I liked or disliked a given movie."  Today I seem to be mostly all right, other than the fact that I'm still getting answers in pictures rather than words at times and my concentration is somewhat poor.

So basically, doodabuddy, you can ask me questions and I'll do my best to answer them.  If you like, I can elucidate my previously-stated opinions.  I will do whatever I can--but for the next little bit I will be side-lining and probably pursuing leads less well than I would prefer, since I effectively had my brain ripped apart and need a touch of time to put it back together again.

If you're going to call me scum for my "excuse," then come get me.  Don't just throw little shots off the bow because you can't find much to say other than "Durrhurr Vector's not explaining her attacks."  I'm ready and waiting.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 06:21:12 pm

Jesus, if I just took the bus to crazyville the last thing I'd do is sign up for a mafia game.

Each to his or her own though, I suppose. Since I'm an asshole I don't have to bother with things like sympathy.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 06:21:54 pm

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 15, 2010, 06:18:52 pm

I think it would've been funny if you marked those and we lynched him.

Hehehe... first ever non-player lynch in Mafia?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 15, 2010, 06:24:41 pm

Man Forsaken, I'd vote you just as a matter of principle, because that was some shit. But for the moment, there are scummier players on my list.

This emerging Groovester/Leafsnail fight is certainly illuminating, but I'm still waiting to see how the Org/Toony argument plays out. At the moment, I'm pretty suspicious of Jim Groovester, for being so defensive, and ToonyMan, for pressing so hard against Org. It just seems shady to act like that this early in the game.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Vector on April 15, 2010, 06:26:38 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 06:21:12 pm

Jesus, if I just took the bus to crazyville the last thing I'd do is sign up for a mafia game.

Each to his or her own though, I suppose. Since I'm an asshole I don't have to bother with things like sympathy.

Dude, I'm on the goddamned 9 AM freight to Crazyville.  Thing is, though, that if I don't get some mental stimulation and social time it's going to speed up faster than you can say "cubic walrus."

I don't ask for sympathy.  I ask that you forgive me for not being hyper-active and superfluously explanatory the way I usually am, and if you catch me doing anything incorrectly... then by golly, come get me.  Don't just stand back behind the sidelines poking at me with sticks, get over here where I can bite your head off.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 06:30:16 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 15, 2010, 06:24:41 pm

Man Forsaken, I'd vote you just as a matter of principle, because that was some shit. But for the moment, there are scummier players on my list.

If you put stuff like that on a public forum you'd better be ready for the response. Not everyone will be sympathetic.

Voting for poor manners now?

Quote from: Vector on April 15, 2010, 06:26:38 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 06:21:12 pm

Jesus, if I just took the bus to crazyville the last thing I'd do is sign up for a mafia game.

Each to his or her own though, I suppose. Since I'm an asshole I don't have to bother with things like sympathy.

Dude, I'm on the goddamned 9 AM freight to Crazyville.  Thing is, though, that if I don't get some mental stimulation and social time it's going to speed up faster than you can say "cubic walrus."

I don't ask for sympathy.  I ask that you forgive me for not being hyper-active and superfluously explanatory the way I usually am, and if you catch me doing anything incorrectly... then by golly, come get me.  Don't just stand back behind the sidelines poking at me with sticks, get over here where I can bite your head off.

No problem Vector, I've been there. And I hope you understand that no offense was intended.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 15, 2010, 06:30:59 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 12:04:46 pm

For instance, dear sweet JokermanEXE... just how executable are you?

I found this hilarious.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 06:31:55 pm

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 15, 2010, 06:30:59 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 12:04:46 pm

For instance, dear sweet JokermanEXE... just how executable are you?

I found this hilarious.

Yes, that would be his silly guy buddy routine in action.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Vector on April 15, 2010, 06:36:26 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 06:30:16 pm

No problem Vector, I've been there. And I hope you understand that no offense was intended.

No, of course.  I mostly play this game to work out anger, anyway, so don't worry about it >_>

No offense taken whatsoever.

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 15, 2010, 06:24:41 pm

Man Forsaken, I'd vote you just as a matter of principle, because that was some shit. But for the moment, there are scummier players on my list.

This emerging Groovester/Leafsnail fight is certainly illuminating, but I'm still waiting to see how the Org/Toony argument plays out. At the moment, I'm pretty suspicious of Jim Groovester, for being so defensive, and ToonyMan, for pressing so hard against Org. It just seems shady to act like that this early in the game.

Buddying, passiveness, sidelining, defensive play.

Hello there, Jokerman.  Name your favorite 3-P scumteam from the players in this round.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 06:38:39 pm

Nice job trying to lynch someone not even in the game bandwagon-happy-people.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 15, 2010, 06:45:35 pm

No dude, I'm not buddying or voting you for being rude or anything like that. The post was just way farther out there than I was expecting at all, mostly because I'm dealing with some serious stuff on my end too, and if you had said something like that to me I would be pretty pissed. I still respect the game enough to keep it separate from the conversation.

At the moment, I'm suspicious of Toony and Jim, like I said. I'm having trouble choosing a third, honestly, but I do feel like Solifuge is hiding something. I don't know his meta, but it seems a little weird, and others have commented on it that I assume know his meta more than I.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 06:49:04 pm

Two people does not a bandwagon make.

And if he were in the game and behaved like that, he'd deserve a lynch. I just didn't think to check the first page as usually people are courteous enough not to disrupt a game in progress. Thanks so much Eduren.

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 15, 2010, 06:45:35 pm

No dude, I'm not buddying or voting you for being rude or anything like that. The post was just way farther out there than I was expecting at all, mostly because I'm dealing with some serious stuff on my end too, and if you had said something like that to me I would be pretty pissed. I still respect the game enough to keep it separate from the conversation.

At the moment, I'm suspicious of Toony and Jim, like I said. I'm having trouble choosing a third, honestly, but I do feel like Solifuge is hiding something. I don't know his meta, but it seems a little weird, and others have commented on it that I assume know his meta more than I.

You'd be pissed at me if I said... what? That you'd taken the bus to crazytown? That I didn't have much sympathy? Which part would piss you off in this theoretical exchange? And if buddying or voting wasn't your purpose, what was the point? Were you defending Vector's virtue?  ::)

She's a big girl, she can handle teh internetz.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mephansteras on April 15, 2010, 06:50:09 pm

The Whiteboard
forsaken1111: JanusTwoface, Solifuge
Leafsnail: Jim Groovester
Mr.Person: Vector
Org: forsaken1111, Pandarsenic, ToonyMan
Pandarsenic: Kashyyk
RedWarrior0: webadict
Solifuge: Leafsnail
ToonyMan: Jokerman-EXE, Org

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 06:50:45 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 06:31:55 pm

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 15, 2010, 06:30:59 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 12:04:46 pm

For instance, dear sweet JokermanEXE... just how executable are you?

I found this hilarious.

Yes, that would be his silly guy buddy routine in action.

I prefer "Flippant Irreverence For The Conventions Of Mafia Gameplay" but whatever floats your boat. To answer the related queary:

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 15, 2010, 04:29:16 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 14, 2010, 11:33:02 pm

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 14, 2010, 08:32:30 pm

Quote from: Solifuge

I am going to vote Kashyyk  as well. I've got an ox-cart loaded with Dixieland musicians, and nowhere to steer it.

Saaaame again.  What reaction would you be looking for after this vote?

ProTip: The reaction I'm looking for is not Kashyyk's. >.o

Whose is it then?

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 10:07:03 am

I invariably feel bad that Org gets the lynchmobile pointed toward him at the start of just about every game. Reminds me of the one kid who always gets picked last for the kickball team, and then never gets a chance at the plate.

He's a Doctor, Jim, not a Doppleganger!

Anywho, did you see what I did there Kashyyk, or did Sweet Lemon Brown and the Louisiana Kings distract you with the melodious tunes comming from their station wagon? Or were you perhaps too dazzled by my amazing deductive ability? Scum on day 1... how DO I do it?

This looks like unbelievably clumsy chainsaw defence to me.  My question is: Why are you doing it?

I don't know what a chainsaw defense is, but I am doing it because it makes players take action of their own volition. It provokes responses both typical and atypical of players, causes some to make passive side comments about it while otherwise not participating, makes others sit back and ignore it, and makes some lash out. It's like a little red cape being fluttered at a Bull, but the Matador in question also has a pair of heart-print boxers on his head, and he's doing the Electric Boogaloo.

P.S. I am that Matador.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 06:51:38 pm

Man I hate losing connection every two minutes or so, don't get DSL folks.

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 15, 2010, 06:45:35 pm

At the moment, I'm suspicious of Toony and Jim, like I said. I'm having trouble choosing a third, honestly, but I do feel like Solifuge is hiding something. I don't know his meta, but it seems a little weird, and others have commented on it that I assume know his meta more than I.

Are you suspicious of me and Jim only because we have posted a lot or other reason?
Any reason two of your suspicions are mine as well?

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 06:49:04 pm

Two people does not a bandwagon make.

And if he were in the game and behaved like that, he'd deserve a lynch. I just didn't think to check the first page as usually people are courteous enough not to disrupt a game in progress. Thanks so much Eduren.

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 15, 2010, 06:45:35 pm

No dude, I'm not buddying or voting you for being rude or anything like that. The post was just way farther out there than I was expecting at all, mostly because I'm dealing with some serious stuff on my end too, and if you had said something like that to me I would be pretty pissed. I still respect the game enough to keep it separate from the conversation.

At the moment, I'm suspicious of Toony and Jim, like I said. I'm having trouble choosing a third, honestly, but I do feel like Solifuge is hiding something. I don't know his meta, but it seems a little weird, and others have commented on it that I assume know his meta more than I.

You'd be pissed at me if I said... what? That you'd taken the bus to crazytown? That I didn't have much sympathy? Which part would piss you off in this theoretical exchange? And if buddying or voting wasn't your purpose, what was the point? Were you defending Vector's virtue?  ::)

She's a big girl, she can handle teh internetz.

I think of band wagons as quick votes, not quantity.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 06:53:06 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 06:51:38 pm

I think of band wagons as quick votes, not quantity.

Well refine your definition then. I'm not responsible for you being wrong.

http://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Bandwagon

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 06:53:31 pm

MetaFoS Eduren for not joining the game. He's just trying to keep his scummy arse from being able to be lynched.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuJxYmJlEHY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuJxYmJlEHY)

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 06:54:53 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 06:53:06 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 06:51:38 pm

I think of band wagons as quick votes, not quantity.

Well refine your definition then. I'm not responsible for you being wrong.

http://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Bandwagon

I have my own terms dude, put the text book down.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Eduren on April 15, 2010, 06:55:45 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 06:53:31 pm

MetaFoS Eduren for not joining the game. He's just trying to keep his scummy arse from being able to be lynched.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuJxYmJlEHY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuJxYmJlEHY)

Totally. You scare me.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 06:55:49 pm

If you're going to be annoying and argue then by band wagon I meant vote in quick succession, got it?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 06:59:20 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 06:55:49 pm

If you're going to be annoying and argue then by band wagon I meant vote in quick succession, got it?

So you meant we shouldn't reaction vote when someone does something incredibly scummy? Due to his posting after game start and being included on the 'list of people and how long since they've posted' I assumed he was in the game. I don't memorize the active players on day 1, hell I hadn't even looked at the list at that point as I didn't expect this to start so soon.

Anyway, your meaning is clear now. I will never again vote so quickly after someone does something worthy of voting. I'll give you at least an hour to feel comfortable.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 07:00:21 pm

That fact of the matter is you didn't bother checking if Eduren was IN THE GAME.  You have itchy trigger fingers for voting people and that's a scum tell.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 07:03:12 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 07:00:21 pm

That fact of the matter is you didn't bother checking if Eduren was IN THE GAME.  You have itchy trigger fingers for voting people and that's a scum tell.

You're right. Voting people who act scummy is a scum tell. Sorry guys.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 15, 2010, 07:04:36 pm

Solifuge and Jim Groovester (who should be Groovestar because that would be cooler) are scummy.

Org is a liability so I'm policyvoting him until he stops being useless.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 07:05:31 pm

Well, rather than bickering and posting a whole lot of nothing, Forsaken111 and Toonyman, voice your grievances and revised suspicions in a mature and civil manner, and let us move groove on.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mephansteras on April 15, 2010, 07:05:56 pm

Eduren, please refrain from disrupting the game. Watchers watch only, please.

The rest of you, drop it and get back to the game.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 07:06:22 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 07:03:12 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 07:00:21 pm

That fact of the matter is you didn't bother checking if Eduren was IN THE GAME.  You have itchy trigger fingers for voting people and that's a scum tell.

You're right. Voting people who act scummy is a scum tell. Sorry guys.

Oh my god.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Eduren on April 15, 2010, 07:07:33 pm

Quote from: Mephansteras on April 15, 2010, 07:05:56 pm

Eduren, please refrain from disrupting the game. Watchers watch only, please.

The rest of you, drop it and get back to the game.

Sorry boss.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 07:07:38 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 07:05:31 pm

Well, rather than bickering and posting a whole lot of nothing, Forsaken111 and Toonyman, voice your grievances and revised suspicions in a mature and civil manner, and let us move groove on.

Org
Solifuge
Leafsnail
Forsaken

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 15, 2010, 07:10:35 pm

Policy lynching will be useless.
Toony stop yo tunnelin

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 07:11:16 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 07:05:31 pm

Well, rather than bickering and posting a whole lot of nothing, Forsaken111 and Toonyman, voice your grievances and revised suspicions in a mature and civil manner, and let us move groove on.

What revised? I moved back to Org when I realized my error and nothing has changed. My only 'grievance' was toony calling a two-man reaction vote a bandwagon.

Suspicions... despite toony's insipid argument he doesn't strike me as scummy. I still suspect you Solifuge, and your nice-guy act, especially now that you've gone all 'lets be reasonable' and tried to.. what? stave off an argument? In Mafia, interaction and argument are bread and butter. You can't scumhunt without provoking some sort of response from someone.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 07:12:51 pm

Quote from: Org on April 15, 2010, 07:10:35 pm

Policy lynching will be useless.
Toony stop yo tunnelin

Then be useful and help us find a better target Org. This is exactly why the policy lynch is a good idea. You're sitting here going "Guys don't vote me. Its bad" without helping us in the slightest bit to find a better target for the vote.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 07:15:09 pm

Quote from: Org on April 15, 2010, 07:10:35 pm

Policy lynching will be useless.
Toony stop yo tunnelin

Not a defense.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 15, 2010, 07:29:18 pm

Quote from: Org on April 15, 2010, 07:10:35 pm

Policy lynching will be useless.
Toony stop yo tunnelin

Raw self-preservation

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 07:30:08 pm

Hereby named the Org Defense!

Finally, Org, you have a mafia strategy named after you!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 15, 2010, 07:42:46 pm

Quote from: Forsaken

Didn't realize the game had started, I was asleep when it did.

Alright... Org.

That's my post. Hope you enjoyed it.
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Quote from: Solifuge on Today at 12:04:48 PM

    Org is a poor defenseless damsel, and I must ride to his rescue on my iSteed.
end quote

Then give cause to pursue another.
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You fail
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Alright more content.

I'll explain my vote on Org.

In past games, Org has been a hindrance to whatever team he is on. A vote for Org will either remove a townie who will screw it up for us or remove a scum. Both of these are good.
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Large post about plauers and stuff.
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I was asked for my opinion on people and I gave it. And I do have a headache. This is your reason for voting me? Fine.
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I agree on Solifuge.

Would you do me a favor and explain your vote on Toony? Is it more than retribution? A good reason and a bit more participation would go a long way towards proving that you intend to be useful this round.
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Jim sounds like he needs a hug.

Jim, I suspect you buddy. Don't feel left out. :P
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Fuck off webadict
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Eduren, seriously. Post something or fucking leave.
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Fine.

Unvote, Vote Eduren.

Maybe next time you'll play the game.
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-.- Sigh...

Fine, back to Org. Eduren, that's some shit. Get out
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Hehehe... first ever non-player lynch in Mafia?
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 Jesus, if I just took the bus to crazyville the last thing I'd do is sign up for a mafia game.

Each to his or her own though, I suppose. Since I'm an asshole I don't have to bother with things like sympathy.
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If you put stuff like that on a public forum you'd better be ready for the response. Not everyone will be sympathetic.

Voting for poor manners now?

No problem Vector, I've been there. And I hope you understand that no offense was intended.
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Two people does not a bandwagon make.

And if he were in the game and behaved like that, he'd deserve a lynch. I just didn't think to check the first page as usually people are courteous enough not to disrupt a game in progress. Thanks so much Eduren.


You'd be pissed at me if I said... what? That you'd taken the bus to crazytown? That I didn't have much sympathy? Which part would piss you off in this theoretical exchange? And if buddying or voting wasn't your purpose, what was the point? Were you defending Vector's virtue?  ::)

She's a big girl, she can handle teh internetz.
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Well refine your definition then. I'm not responsible for you being wrong.

http://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Bandwagon
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So you meant we shouldn't reaction vote when someone does something incredibly scummy? Due to his posting after game start and being included on the 'list of people and how long since they've posted' I assumed he was in the game. I don't memorize the active players on day 1, hell I hadn't even looked at the list at that point as I didn't expect this to start so soon.

Anyway, your meaning is clear now. I will never again vote so quickly after someone does something worthy of voting. I'll give you at least an hour to feel comfortable.
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You're right. Voting people who act scummy is a scum tell. Sorry guys.
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What revised? I moved back to Org when I realized my error and nothing has changed. My only 'grievance' was toony calling a two-man reaction vote a bandwagon.

Suspicions... despite toony's insipid argument he doesn't strike me as scummy. I still suspect you Solifuge, and your nice-guy act, especially now that you've gone all 'lets be reasonable' and tried to.. what? stave off an argument? In Mafia, interaction and argument are bread and butter. You can't scumhunt without provoking some sort of response from someone.
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Then be useful and help us find a better target Org. This is exactly why the policy lynch is a good idea. You're sitting here going "Guys don't vote me. Its bad" without helping us in the slightest bit to find a better target for the v
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 Hereby named the Org Defense!

Finally, Org, you have a mafia strategy named after you!

All of Forsaken's posts! Yay.
Now, he doesn't seem to care about lynching me, because obviously I am never helpful.
The minute that townies start wasting a player, not even trying to scumhunt, scum wins day one! Statistically speaking, i will be town more than scum. So, each game we do this, you either get lucky, or you don't and help scum. Maybe I am not always helpful, but if I get a role that can help, it usually does during the night. THing is, I won't get killed by scum USUALLY, due to the fact that I obviously don't think up a plan and try to find scum, and everyone doesn't like my playstyle and stuff so they want to lynch me but ANYWAYS. So, I can be helpful, so dont fucking lynch me.

He obviously can think of anything then LOL HINDRANCE POLICY LYNCH BANDWAGOn. Try again, Forsaken

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 07:56:37 pm

Well you've finally done something useful at least.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 07:59:53 pm

Org just posted over 5 lines, see?  This is very good news.
Unvote, keep doing what you just did Org.
Vote Solifuge, I don't recall you giving a list of suspions, thought?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 08:06:10 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 07:59:53 pm

Org just posted over 5 lines, see?  This is very good news.
Unvote, keep doing what you just did Org.
Vote Solifuge, I don't recall you giving a list of suspions, thought?

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 03:56:21 pm

My Scumspects given what I know now, in no particular order, are:
- Toonyman, for fetching your drill, and tunnelling on a player using logic that could apply to anyone(could just be a preoccupation with offing Org though), and your twitchy playstyle.
- Forsaken111, for defensively casting unfocused suspicion on everyone when prompted, followed by confronting a lynch vote head on only to passively accept it ("Sure, go ahead and vote for me!"). Universal suspicion is tolerable, but says nothing, and is an easy out for scum, who by default know who to trust, and have to take some time to warm up to their false townie "persona".

Your repertoire of talents includes reading comprehension, yes?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 15, 2010, 08:06:32 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 07:59:53 pm

Org just posted over 5 lines, see?  This is very good news.
Unvote, keep doing what you just did Org.
Vote Solifuge, I don't recall you giving a list of suspions, thought?

I cant until tomorrow, but I can do better on weekends.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 08:07:40 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 08:06:10 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 07:59:53 pm

Org just posted over 5 lines, see?  This is very good news.
Unvote, keep doing what you just did Org.
Vote Solifuge, I don't recall you giving a list of suspions, thought?

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 03:56:21 pm

My Scumspects given what I know now, in no particular order, are:
- Toonyman, for fetching your drill, and tunnelling on a player using logic that could apply to anyone(could just be a preoccupation with offing Org though), and your twitchy playstyle.
- Forsaken111, for defensively casting unfocused suspicion on everyone when prompted, followed by confronting a lynch vote head on only to passively accept it ("Sure, go ahead and vote for me!"). Universal suspicion is tolerable, but says nothing, and is an easy out for scum, who by default know who to trust, and have to take some time to warm up to their false townie "persona".

Your repertoire of talents includes reading comprehension, yes?

Thanks.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Vector on April 15, 2010, 08:28:45 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 15, 2010, 06:45:35 pm

No dude, I'm not buddying or voting you for being rude or anything like that. The post was just way farther out there than I was expecting at all, mostly because I'm dealing with some serious stuff on my end too, and if you had said something like that to me I would be pretty pissed. I still respect the game enough to keep it separate from the conversation.

At the moment, I'm suspicious of Toony and Jim, like I said. I'm having trouble choosing a third, honestly, but I do feel like Solifuge is hiding something. I don't know his meta, but it seems a little weird, and others have commented on it that I assume know his meta more than I.

... Answer the question.  Favorite scumteam.  Go.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 15, 2010, 08:31:26 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 15, 2010, 07:04:36 pm

Solifuge and Jim Groovester (who should be Groovestar because that would be cooler) are scummy.

Org is a liability so I'm policyvoting him until he stops being useless.

I find neither of those first two suspicious, and therefore declare you scummy.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 15, 2010, 10:42:26 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 15, 2010, 08:28:45 pm

... Answer the question.  Favorite scumteam.  Go.

I don't even know what you're asking me! I said I suspected Toony, Jim, and Solifuge. Like, twice now.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Vector on April 15, 2010, 10:44:15 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 15, 2010, 10:42:26 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 15, 2010, 08:28:45 pm

... Answer the question.  Favorite scumteam.  Go.

I don't even know what you're asking me! I said I suspected Toony, Jim, and Solifuge. Like, twice now.

...................

Which two people would you most prefer as scumbuddies?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 15, 2010, 10:46:52 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 15, 2010, 10:44:15 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 15, 2010, 10:42:26 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 15, 2010, 08:28:45 pm

... Answer the question.  Favorite scumteam.  Go.

I don't even know what you're asking me! I said I suspected Toony, Jim, and Solifuge. Like, twice now.

...................

Which two people would you most prefer as scumbuddies?

OH. THAT MAKES MORE SENSE NOW.

Um. Well, I wouldn't know. I don't know anyone's meta well enough, but just based on who I think could do it well, Pandarsenic and Webadict. I think they're experienced enough to be really dangerous against town.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 15, 2010, 10:49:32 pm

Webadict: Who are your suspicions, then? Other than me, naturally. I can't recall you having named anyone.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Vector on April 15, 2010, 10:58:17 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 15, 2010, 10:46:52 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 15, 2010, 10:44:15 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 15, 2010, 10:42:26 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 15, 2010, 08:28:45 pm

... Answer the question.  Favorite scumteam.  Go.

I don't even know what you're asking me! I said I suspected Toony, Jim, and Solifuge. Like, twice now.

...................

Which two people would you most prefer as scumbuddies?

OH. THAT MAKES MORE SENSE NOW.

Um. Well, I wouldn't know. I don't know anyone's meta well enough, but just based on who I think could do it well, Pandarsenic and Webadict. I think they're experienced enough to be really dangerous against town.

... Uh-huh...

Awfully shy, arentcha?  Why haven't you been attacking anyone directly?  Too afraid?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 15, 2010, 11:00:56 pm

I honestly had no clue what you were asking me.

My attention is split right now and I don't want to start saying half-assed things and get pinged for it later. I want to wait until I can devote my attention to the game. I'm old-fashioned that way.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Vector on April 15, 2010, 11:08:00 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 15, 2010, 11:00:56 pm

I honestly had no clue what you were asking me.

My attention is split right now and I don't want to start saying half-assed things and get pinged for it later. I want to wait until I can devote my attention to the game. I'm old-fashioned that way.

First statement is fine.  Second statement bothers me a bit with its defensiveness, but I'll just watch you for now.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mr.Person on April 16, 2010, 12:57:05 am

Congratulations, Leafsnail. You get a double FoS from me. One for compiling a list and including a player not in the game (Eduren) and another for compiling a list and not including a player actually in the game (me).

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 15, 2010, 11:00:56 pm

I honestly had no clue what you were asking me.

My attention is split right now and I don't want to start saying half-assed things and get pinged for it later. I want to wait until I can devote my attention to the game. I'm old-fashioned that way.

Jokerman, you're intentionally posting less often so that your posts will be more thought out and harder to read. What is your response ?

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 03:56:21 pm

Also, Toony has hereby KICKED REASON TO THE CURB, and for it has temporarily lost what credibility he had with me.

So why did ToonyMan have so little credibility in the first place?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 16, 2010, 09:42:13 am

Long version contains wall of text.  Sorry, but I don't always get online often enough to respond to everything as it comes up.

Spoiler: Long version (click to show/hide)

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 15, 2010, 03:59:43 pm

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 15, 2010, 03:41:19 pm

For the time being, I'll unvote and post more in a little bit.

*pet peeve of mine*

Please actually do come back and post more later when you say you will.  Otherwise it looks rather-over-much like you are acting helpful without doing anything as such.

Still waiting...  The three posts you've made since you'd be back:

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Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 15, 2010, 06:16:23 pm

Money that he is alien with DMB.

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 15, 2010, 06:18:52 pm

I think it would've been funny if you marked those and we lynched him.

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 15, 2010, 06:30:59 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 12:04:46 pm

For instance, dear sweet JokermanEXE... just how executable are you?

I found this hilarious.

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Two quotes commenting on Eduren, one commenting on Solifuge's wordplay on Jokerman's name (not the first person to do so either).  Although it was funny. I'm still waiting for your 'more later' RedWarrior0.

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 15, 2010, 04:39:28 pm

I'll give a simple figure:
Amount of time that has passed since player's last post (rounded off to nearest hour)

Leafsnail - 0
ToonyMan - 0
RedWarrior0 - 0
JanusTwoface - 1
...

I think someone else said that, but that's mostly data for the sake of seeming active.  I'll generally post counts with the number of useful posts (in my opinion) which at least identifies lurkers.  Keeping track of last posts on the other hand mainly identifies people with less time or more restricted hours in which to post.  Scummy, Leafsnail, very scummy.

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 15, 2010, 05:53:34 pm

Jim sounds like he needs a hug.

Jim, I suspect you buddy. Don't feel left out.

This sounds scummy.  Although I think that if you are scum, than Jim is likely not.  Unless you're being more careful about making connections with scum buddies than I expect you to be.

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 15, 2010, 06:18:52 pm

I think it would've been funny if you marked those and we lynched him.

If he'd been in the game, I would have voted him for that.  I vaguely remember this happening in Wizard Duel 1 too.  Meh, moving on.

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 06:38:39 pm

Nice job trying to lynch someone not even in the game bandwagon-happy-people.

Similiar to the previous comment, I don't know if I would directly call them out for it.  There have been lessor offences that caused basically insta-lynches.  On the other hand, this definately doesn't help forsaken's already shaky case.

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 07:00:21 pm

That fact of the matter is you didn't bother checking if Eduren was IN THE GAME.  You have itchy trigger fingers for voting people and that's a scum tell.

We already had two people before that refering to Eduren being in the game. Forsaken (http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=54074.msg1169755#msg1169755) says he has no content and Leafsnail (http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=54074.msg1170171#msg1170171) says it's been 6 hours since Eduren's posted.  Eduren had posted before that, so it could be an honest mistake.  But town needs to lynch scum, scum just needs to lynch anyone.  So it is scummy of webadict and forsaken.

Quote from: Org on April 15, 2010, 07:42:46 pm

Quote from: Forsaken

...

All of Forsaken's posts! Yay.
Now, he doesn't seem to care about lynching me, because obviously I am never helpful.
The minute that townies start wasting a player, not even trying to scumhunt, scum wins day one! Statistically speaking, i will be town more than scum. So, each game we do this, you either get lucky, or you don't and help scum. Maybe I am not always helpful, but if I get a role that can help, it usually does during the night. THing is, I won't get killed by scum USUALLY, due to the fact that I obviously don't think up a plan and try to find scum, and everyone doesn't like my playstyle and stuff so they want to lynch me but ANYWAYS. So, I can be helpful, so dont fucking lynch me.

He obviously can think of anything then LOL HINDRANCE POLICY LYNCH BANDWAGOn. Try again, Forsaken

This... was actually useful.  The first part at least.  The second part is understandable but annoying.  It's like you depend completely on your role to do anything.  In paranormal, this can be fine because there are so many more roles, but that's *really* not what Mafia should be about.  Mafia should be about scumhunting.

Short version:
- RedWarrior, where is this 'more later' post you promised?
- Leafsnail is posting data only to post, there are better data sets to collect
- Forsaken still sounds scummy and isn't being terribly useful
- Forsaken and Leafsnail made posts including Eduren, webadict voted
- Org is being more useful but is too role focused

Right now (if I've counted correctly) we have a four way tie on forsaken, Org, Solifuge, and ToonyMan.

Jim, Vector, Kashyyk, and Webadict, you are the four not voting for one of the first four.  To each of you, which of the first list do you find most scummy right now (seeing as the day ends today)?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 16, 2010, 10:06:06 am

Quote from: Mr.Person on April 16, 2010, 12:57:05 am

Jokerman, you're intentionally posting less often so that your posts will be more thought out and harder to read. What is your response ?

My response to what? I'm not into the game yet because I'm not focusing on playing, I'm focusing on my life right now. I haven't pressed or attacked anyone because that requires commitment and follow-through, which I don't think I can offer right now.

And if you're talking about posts few and far between, there are far better candidates for your suspicions. RedWarrior and Org, and in some cases Leafsnail (because I don't really count his table as a post). Why are you only asking me about it? Do you think I'm scum, or not? Also, I might have missed it, but what's your list of suspicions? If you already posted one, just quote/link it pl0x.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 16, 2010, 11:10:35 am

Unvote.

Vote Jokerman, don't join bakery if you don't have time to cook.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 16, 2010, 11:11:21 am

Also, you're being highly defensive.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mephansteras on April 16, 2010, 11:15:29 am

The Whiteboard
forsaken1111: JanusTwoface, Org, Solifuge
Jokerman-EXE: ToonyMan
Leafsnail: Jim Groovester
Mr.Person: Vector
Org: forsaken1111, Pandarsenic
Pandarsenic: Kashyyk
RedWarrior0: webadict
Solifuge: Leafsnail
ToonyMan: Jokerman-EXE

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Reminder, day ends at ~5pm Pacific today

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 16, 2010, 11:27:36 am

Forsaken, since you're due to be lynched by the current votecount, do you have anything to say on your behalf? Would you care to try to explain why you are more town than scum, or why the suspicions levied against you are misguided or incorrect?

All I've gotten so far is a sort of "Oh, that's why you think I'm suspicious, huh?" by which you accept the accusations, and do nothing to refute them. Passivity when accused it a poor attempt at trying to remain cool, and isn't the response town players make.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 16, 2010, 11:27:59 am

You guys are voting forsaken? I'd rather lynch RedWarrior0 or Leafsnail

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Vector on April 16, 2010, 11:32:39 am

Quote from: Mr.Person on April 16, 2010, 12:57:05 am

Congratulations, Leafsnail. You get a double FoS from me. One for compiling a list and including a player not in the game (Eduren) and another for compiling a list and not including a player actually in the game (me).

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 15, 2010, 11:00:56 pm

I honestly had no clue what you were asking me.

My attention is split right now and I don't want to start saying half-assed things and get pinged for it later. I want to wait until I can devote my attention to the game. I'm old-fashioned that way.

Jokerman, you're intentionally posting less often so that your posts will be more thought out and harder to read. What is your response ?

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 03:56:21 pm

Also, Toony has hereby KICKED REASON TO THE CURB, and for it has temporarily lost what credibility he had with me.

So why did ToonyMan have so little credibility in the first place?

Answer the goddamned avatar question :I

Also, Extension.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 16, 2010, 11:35:41 am

Quote from: webadict on April 16, 2010, 11:27:59 am

You guys are voting forsaken? I'd rather lynch RedWarrior0 or Leafsnail

I'd like to hear what Forsaken has to say. Do you have reason to suspect Red/Leaf more than Forsaken?

Also Webadict's finally mellowing out! Yaaaaay!

Quote from: Vector on April 16, 2010, 11:32:39 am

Also, Extension.

I don't think an extension is terribly necessary, but I defer to the majority.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Vector on April 16, 2010, 11:37:38 am

Quote from: Solifuge on April 16, 2010, 11:35:41 am

Quote from: Vector on April 16, 2010, 11:32:39 am

Also, Extension.

I don't think an extension is terribly necessary, but I defer to the majority.

I want my question answered :I

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 16, 2010, 11:39:09 am

Quote from: Solifuge on April 16, 2010, 11:35:41 am

Quote from: webadict on April 16, 2010, 11:27:59 am

You guys are voting forsaken? I'd rather lynch RedWarrior0 or Leafsnail

I'd like to hear what Forsaken has to say. Do you have reason to suspect Red/Leaf more than Forsaken?

Also Webadict's finally mellowing out! Yaaaaay!

Quote from: Vector on April 16, 2010, 11:32:39 am

Also, Extension.

I don't think an extension is terribly necessary, but I defer to the majority.

... Well, since when does Leaf post pointless graphs?

And RedWarrior0 is just lurking.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 16, 2010, 11:42:23 am

I agree with both of those.

Also, Extension until Mr.Person answers that avatar question, I want to know as well!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 16, 2010, 11:45:48 am

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 16, 2010, 11:42:23 am

I agree with both of those.

Also, Extension until Mr.Person answers that avatar question, I want to know as well!

What avatar question?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 16, 2010, 11:46:30 am

Quote from: Solifuge on April 16, 2010, 11:27:36 am

Forsaken, since you're due to be lynched by the current votecount, do you have anything to say on your behalf?

Not really. So far I've been listed as scum for making an offhand comment to Jim and answering a question about my suspicions. These are things which most of you have done as well.

For what it's worth, I will throw in for an extension as well. Hopefully you guys will realize the error here.

Soli is voting me because I disparaged his friendly guy routine. Org is revenge voting. Janus I'm not sure about, he made up a reason and went with it. Suppose someone has to die day 1.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 16, 2010, 11:47:00 am

Quote from: webadict on April 16, 2010, 11:45:48 am

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 16, 2010, 11:42:23 am

I agree with both of those.

Also, Extension until Mr.Person answers that avatar question, I want to know as well!

What avatar question?

His thoughts on the movie.

Where his newest avatar comes from.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Vector on April 16, 2010, 11:52:52 am

Quote from: webadict on April 16, 2010, 11:45:48 am

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 16, 2010, 11:42:23 am

I agree with both of those.

Also, Extension until Mr.Person answers that avatar question, I want to know as well!

What avatar question?

First question of the game, doodabuddy.  He didn't answer my RV question, and it's pissing me off.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 16, 2010, 11:56:12 am

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 16, 2010, 11:46:30 am

Quote from: Solifuge on April 16, 2010, 11:27:36 am

Forsaken, since you're due to be lynched by the current votecount, do you have anything to say on your behalf?

Not really. So far I've been listed as scum for making an offhand comment to Jim and answering a question about my suspicions. These are things which most of you have done as well.

For what it's worth, I will throw in for an extension as well. Hopefully you guys will realize the error here.

Soli is voting me because I disparaged his friendly guy routine. Org is revenge voting. Janus I'm not sure about, he made up a reason and went with it. Suppose someone has to die day 1.

What is the error? I've stated why I thought you were suspicious, and it had nothing to do with "disparaging my friendly guy routine". As have others.

Instead of telling everyone else why the people voting for you are all scum, why not explain to the people voting for you why we are mistaken?

Quote from: Vector on April 16, 2010, 11:52:52 am

Quote from: webadict on April 16, 2010, 11:45:48 am

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 16, 2010, 11:42:23 am

I agree with both of those.

Also, Extension until Mr.Person answers that avatar question, I want to know as well!

What avatar question?

First question of the game, doodabuddy.  He didn't answer my RV question, and it's pissing me off.

THIS- IS- SERIOUS BUSINESS! *boot*

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 16, 2010, 12:00:25 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 16, 2010, 11:46:30 am

Quote from: Solifuge on April 16, 2010, 11:27:36 am

Forsaken, since you're due to be lynched by the current votecount, do you have anything to say on your behalf?

Not really. So far I've been listed as scum for making an offhand comment to Jim and answering a question about my suspicions. These are things which most of you have done as well.

For what it's worth, I will throw in for an extension as well. Hopefully you guys will realize the error here.

Soli is voting me because I disparaged his friendly guy routine. Org is revenge voting. Janus I'm not sure about, he made up a reason and went with it. Suppose someone has to die day 1.

It's interesting.  In the past few games I've played with you, you've been lynched for being too agressive and for being too passive.  You're in passive mode again.  If you're town, let this be a lesson for you.  When you're scum, well, let it be a lesson for you anyways.

How about this, from the earlier tie, who of these do you think is scummiest: Org, Solifuge, and Toonyman.  And why?

Quote from: Vector on April 16, 2010, 11:52:52 am

First question of the game, doodabuddy.  He didn't answer my RV question, and it's pissing me off.

Better to be pissed off than pissed on...

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mr.Person on April 16, 2010, 12:14:10 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 16, 2010, 11:52:52 am

Quote from: webadict on April 16, 2010, 11:45:48 am

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 16, 2010, 11:42:23 am

I agree with both of those.

Also, Extension until Mr.Person answers that avatar question, I want to know as well!

What avatar question?

First question of the game, doodabuddy.  He didn't answer my RV question, and it's pissing me off.

She's a character named Tree Trunks from a new show on Cartoon Network called Adventure Time.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 16, 2010, 12:21:36 pm

Quote from: Mr.Person on April 16, 2010, 12:14:10 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 16, 2010, 11:52:52 am

Quote from: webadict on April 16, 2010, 11:45:48 am

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 16, 2010, 11:42:23 am

I agree with both of those.

Also, Extension until Mr.Person answers that avatar question, I want to know as well!

What avatar question?

First question of the game, doodabuddy.  He didn't answer my RV question, and it's pissing me off.

She's a character named Tree Trunks from a new show on Cartoon Network called Adventure Time.

I KNEW IT!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Leafsnail on April 16, 2010, 12:22:04 pm

Firstly - I'm not sure why everyone's attacking me for posting a "time since last posted" post.  If you think about how RedWarrior0 was able to go for literally DAYS without posting and noone even noticed, I think this is useful.  Notice it's seperate from the scumhunting I've done - it's in addition, not instead of, normal play.  If you feel like criticising my normal play, fine.  Shoot.  But don't just lazily vote me because I'm trying to follow through the Lynch All Lurkers plan.

Quote from: Jim Groovester

Is it too much to say you suspect me, instead of weaseling out and saying I "require further examination" or that I look "strange"? I would think you were town if you did. But you didn't so I think you're scum.

Yeah, I can find the scum immediately and with COMPLETE certainty.  Fuck off.  If you go FULL BLAST RAEG all the time whenever you have the slightest suspicion, noone treats your serious suspicions with any thought.  Just ask Webadict.

Quote from: Jim Groovester

Did you really need to count how many hours ago people posted? Is there any meaning about how long ago people posted? No, not at all. You may as well count the number of posts between their last and the current post, and use that as a rubric of participation instead. It will still be meaningless.

The thing about lurkers is that THEY DON'T GET NOTICED.  If they don't post, they don't get any attention (think RedWarrior, and Alexhans did this once to an absolutely ridiculous degree).

Quote from: Jim Groovester

Did you do it just to be able to make fluff posts where you don't ruffle any feathers by suspecting anyone?

It's IN ADDITION TO, not instead of, scumhunting.  I will make game related posts and also make sure that noone's slipping under the radar at the same time.

Forsaken - you've been posting a lot but almost all of them say nothing at all.  In fact, after a string of irrelevant posts all you can find to back up your vote is

Quote from: forsaken

Fine, back to Org.

Why are you voting Org and what do you think about the game?

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 15, 2010, 06:24:41 pm

Man Forsaken, I'd vote you just as a matter of principle, because that was some shit. But for the moment, there are scummier players on my list.

This emerging Groovester/Leafsnail fight is certainly illuminating, but I'm still waiting to see how the Org/Toony argument plays out. At the moment, I'm pretty suspicious of Jim Groovester, for being so defensive, and ToonyMan, for pressing so hard against Org. It just seems shady to act like that this early in the game.

This is pretty noncommital.  And, what's more, you don't explain why you'd vote forsaken on principle, or why your other suspicions are worse that forsaken.  Similarly, why is "pressing so hard against Org" scummier than forsaken?

Quote from: Solifuge on April 15, 2010, 06:50:45 pm

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 15, 2010, 04:29:16 pm

This looks like unbelievably clumsy chainsaw defence to me.  My question is: Why are you doing it?

I don't know what a chainsaw defense is, but I am doing it because it makes players take action of their own volition. It provokes responses both typical and atypical of players, causes some to make passive side comments about it while otherwise not participating, makes others sit back and ignore it, and makes some lash out. It's like a little red cape being fluttered at a Bull, but the Matador in question also has a pair of heart-print boxers on his head, and he's doing the Electric Boogaloo.

P.S. I am that Matador.

A chainsaw defence is indirectly defending someone by launching an offensive against your attackers.  This answer is... kindof odd, but I guess it makes sense.

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 15, 2010, 07:07:38 pm

Org
Solifuge
Leafsnail
Forsaken

Again, it's rather early to be pulling together scumteams, ToonyMan.  At least give some reasoning.

Quote from: webadict on April 15, 2010, 08:31:26 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 15, 2010, 07:04:36 pm

Solifuge and Jim Groovester (who should be Groovestar because that would be cooler) are scummy.

Org is a liability so I'm policyvoting him until he stops being useless.

I find neither of those first two suspicious, and therefore declare you scummy.

...

Is this a joke?

Quote from: Mr.Person on April 16, 2010, 12:57:05 am

Congratulations, Leafsnail. You get a double FoS from me. One for compiling a list and including a player not in the game (Eduren) and another for compiling a list and not including a player actually in the game (me).

...Really?  I just went back and looked at each player in turn, then marked their time on.  When I got to 14 players, I stopped, since I didn't consider some idiot might be POSTING WHEN NOT IN GAME

Quote from: Janus

- Leafsnail is posting data only to post, there are better data sets to collect

I made a content post DIRECTLY before, but you decide to ignore that, eh?

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 16, 2010, 10:06:06 am

Quote from: Mr.Person on April 16, 2010, 12:57:05 am

Jokerman, you're intentionally posting less often so that your posts will be more thought out and harder to read. What is your response ?

My response to what? I'm not into the game yet because I'm not focusing on playing, I'm focusing on my life right now. I haven't pressed or attacked anyone because that requires commitment and follow-through, which I don't think I can offer right now.

And if you're talking about posts few and far between, there are far better candidates for your suspicions. RedWarrior and Org, and in some cases Leafsnail (because I don't really count his table as a post). Why are you only asking me about it? Do you think I'm scum, or not? Also, I might have missed it, but what's your list of suspicions? If you already posted one, just quote/link it pl0x.

Massive deflection much?  Also seems like a fairly large overreaction, as well as a tint of OMGUS at the end.

Quote from: webadict on April 16, 2010, 11:39:09 am

Quote from: Solifuge on April 16, 2010, 11:35:41 am

Quote from: webadict on April 16, 2010, 11:27:59 am

You guys are voting forsaken? I'd rather lynch RedWarrior0 or Leafsnail

I'd like to hear what Forsaken has to say. Do you have reason to suspect Red/Leaf more than Forsaken?

Also Webadict's finally mellowing out! Yaaaaay!

Quote from: Vector on April 16, 2010, 11:32:39 am

Also, Extension.

I don't think an extension is terribly necessary, but I defer to the majority.

... Well, since when does Leaf post pointless graphs?

Since RedWarrior0 showed me how easy it is to completely avoid suspicion through not posting.  It's part of the Lynch All Lurkers experiment thing.

Reads -
Jim is being dumb, but I've played with scum Jim and town Jim fairly recently, and this definately looks like town Jim.  Scum Jim is passive to a ridiculous degree (think Para 14).
Solifuge is being weird, but he acts weird pretty much every game.  I'm not sure if he's even been scum before, though, so meta will be hard to use.  He does appear to be making an effort to scumhunt, though, so I'm leaning town.
Webadict is acting VERY differently from usual.  His accusations are weak, his reasons poor.  I do prefer him like this, but it's very scummy.
Forsaken has been posting losts of useless fluff and ignoring most of the game.  But, unvote -
Jokerman is scum.  His last post is very bad, and he's given few to no reasons why he finds Jim or Mr.Person more suspicious than forsaken (who he apparently wanted to vote).  Random deflections andd overreactions makes him look even worse.

Post over, Lurker check post coming up.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Leafsnail on April 16, 2010, 12:30:59 pm

Number of hours since last post (to the nearest hour):
Leafsnail - 0
webadict - 0
Mr.Person - 0
JanusTwoFace - 0
Solifuge - 0
Vector - 1
ToonyMan - 1
forsaken1111 - 1
Jokerman-EXE - 2
Pandarsenic - 2
Org - 4
RedWarrior0 - 6
Jim Groovester  - 6
Kashyyk - 31
Eduren - infinity

Unvote.  Kashyyk, come the hell down here and play.  You were on earlier today.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mr.Person on April 16, 2010, 12:35:54 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 16, 2010, 12:21:36 pm

Quote from: Mr.Person on April 16, 2010, 12:14:10 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 16, 2010, 11:52:52 am

Quote from: webadict on April 16, 2010, 11:45:48 am

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 16, 2010, 11:42:23 am

I agree with both of those.

Also, Extension until Mr.Person answers that avatar question, I want to know as well!

What avatar question?

First question of the game, doodabuddy.  He didn't answer my RV question, and it's pissing me off.

She's a character named Tree Trunks from a new show on Cartoon Network called Adventure Time.

I KNEW IT!

Congratu-fucking-lations, do you want a pie?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 16, 2010, 12:39:56 pm

@Leafsnail:
I was mentally listing my thoughts for myself, I could give reasons.

Here's a full(kinda) review why not.  My list changes constantly so yeah I'll post my current thoughts anyway.

Most Scum\
Jokerman - Highly defensive and passive.  Maybe just lazy, hah!
Forsaken - His responses to my attacks are completely stupid.  Plus itchy trigger fingers.
Kashyyk - I just checked the front page and I realized Kashyyk is in this game, I didn't even know.  That's bad.
RedWarrior - Look at Kashyyk.

Middle Ground\
Org - For now at least.
JanusTwoFace - I've been scum with him and he's acting similar to that.
Vector - Being nonsensical, null really though.
Solifuge - Similar to Vector, but more in substance.
Everybody else - I can't really think of anything noteworthy right now.

Lower Ground\
Jim Groovstar - Acting like himself I believe.  At least when he and I were debating if you could say that.
Cheeetar - HE'S ALWAYS TOWN TO ME.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Vector on April 16, 2010, 12:42:43 pm

Pandarsenic.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 16, 2010, 12:44:02 pm

For those concerned about my scum play, I'm honestly pretty much the same as I am as town. I tend to use the same atypical tactics and wierdness, because doing something without a rubric to measure it against tends to work regardless of what side you're on.

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool" </Pretentios Quote=2>

Though I'm far from an expert, I can be a terribly duplicitous person at times, and have a knack for spinning complex and believable lies, and backing it up with the emotional ernesty that makes them look legitimate.

This is limited to online Mafia games, since I suck at lying in person.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 16, 2010, 12:45:50 pm

So you are lying in this game?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 16, 2010, 12:57:12 pm

Best, most non-paradoxical question to ask ever.
(This is a lie)

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mr.Person on April 16, 2010, 01:44:33 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 16, 2010, 10:06:06 am

Quote from: Mr.Person on April 16, 2010, 12:57:05 am

Jokerman, you're intentionally posting less often so that your posts will be more thought out and harder to read. What is your response ?

My response to what? I'm not into the game yet because I'm not focusing on playing, I'm focusing on my life right now. I haven't pressed or attacked anyone because that requires commitment and follow-through, which I don't think I can offer right now.

And if you're talking about posts few and far between, there are far better candidates for your suspicions. RedWarrior and Org, and in some cases Leafsnail (because I don't really count his table as a post). Why are you only asking me about it? Do you think I'm scum, or not? Also, I might have missed it, but what's your list of suspicions? If you already posted one, just quote/link it pl0x.

I don't keep a big list of suspicions, I just jump on the people I find suspicious. Like, say, Jokerman. I didn't even attack you and you respond with defense, defense, defense. Your offense is vague and directed at easy to attack players. That's nice. Try being useful instead of just flailing around trying not to get lynched.

I'm getting warning flags from Webadict since he's acting like how he does as scum (not angry, basically), but I believe he said he's going to change how he plays.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 16, 2010, 01:50:25 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 16, 2010, 12:42:43 pm

Pandarsenic.

I agree with this as well.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mephansteras on April 16, 2010, 01:55:55 pm

The Whiteboard
forsaken1111: JanusTwoface, Org, Solifuge
Jokerman-EXE: Mr.Person, ToonyMan
Kashyyk: Leafsnail
Leafsnail: Jim Groovester
Org: forsaken1111, Pandarsenic
Pandarsenic: Kashyyk, Vector
RedWarrior0: webadict
ToonyMan: Jokerman-EXE

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3 requests for an Extension. One more will extend the deadline to 5pm Pacific Monday.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mr.Person on April 16, 2010, 02:25:36 pm

Extension

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mephansteras on April 16, 2010, 02:27:02 pm

Very well. Day will now end ~5pm Pacific Monday

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 16, 2010, 04:25:02 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 16, 2010, 11:10:35 am

Unvote.

Vote Jokerman, don't join bakery if you don't have time to cook.

Nice OMGUS. You don't even add anything to the argument, you just parrot Vector.

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 16, 2010, 11:42:23 am

I agree with both of those.

Also, Extension until Mr.Person answers that avatar question, I want to know as well!

Still buddying. Way to be suspicious.

@Leafsnail: I didn't want to vote Forsaken. I don't think he's scum.

Quote from: Mr.Person on April 16, 2010, 01:44:33 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 16, 2010, 10:06:06 am

Quote from: Mr.Person on April 16, 2010, 12:57:05 am

Jokerman, you're intentionally posting less often so that your posts will be more thought out and harder to read. What is your response ?

My response to what? I'm not into the game yet because I'm not focusing on playing, I'm focusing on my life right now. I haven't pressed or attacked anyone because that requires commitment and follow-through, which I don't think I can offer right now.

And if you're talking about posts few and far between, there are far better candidates for your suspicions. RedWarrior and Org, and in some cases Leafsnail (because I don't really count his table as a post). Why are you only asking me about it? Do you think I'm scum, or not? Also, I might have missed it, but what's your list of suspicions? If you already posted one, just quote/link it pl0x.

I don't keep a big list of suspicions, I just jump on the people I find suspicious. Like, say, Jokerman. I didn't even attack you and you respond with defense, defense, defense. Your offense is vague and directed at easy to attack players. That's nice. Try being useful instead of just flailing around trying not to get lynched.

I asked you a series of direct questions that you're conveniently deflecting. Care to answer them?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 16, 2010, 04:26:59 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 16, 2010, 12:42:43 pm

Pandarsenic.

Gonna wash your hands explain your vote?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Vector on April 16, 2010, 04:29:00 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 16, 2010, 04:26:59 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 16, 2010, 12:42:43 pm

Pandarsenic.

Gonna wash your hands explain your vote?

Out!  Out, damned spot!  I... BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

You're scum, sideliner.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 16, 2010, 05:17:06 pm

I didn't even know Vector was voting you Jokerman, I don't care.  You're scum.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 16, 2010, 05:41:41 pm

And how am I sidelining?

Further comment has been removed until I get a reply to that.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Vector on April 16, 2010, 05:55:07 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 16, 2010, 05:41:41 pm

And how am I sidelining?

Further comment has been removed until I get a reply to that.

You've basically made no statements other than "let's policy-lynch Org, durhurhur."  Your contributions are sparse and mediocre.  I know you like chilling, but seriously... this is a bit too chill.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 16, 2010, 06:08:58 pm

The part I removed earlier:

Org posted a big "Don't vote for meeee" thing but I have refused to allow "Org being Org" as an excuse since my uPick. Jim Groovester is doing nothing to look more like town, but I'll feel like I'm violating my "no mercy for Org Being Org" rule if I switch to him.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mr.Person on April 16, 2010, 06:10:45 pm

@Jokerman: I'm asking only you questions because I think you're scum. For now, everybody else doesn't matter.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 16, 2010, 06:34:12 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 16, 2010, 05:55:07 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 16, 2010, 05:41:41 pm

And how am I sidelining?

Further comment has been removed until I get a reply to that.

You've basically made no statements other than "let's policy-lynch Org, durhurhur."  Your contributions are sparse and mediocre.  I know you like chilling, but seriously... this is a bit too chill.

So am I!

Why isn't anyone paying attention to me!?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Vector on April 16, 2010, 06:40:52 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 16, 2010, 06:34:12 pm

So am I!

Why isn't anyone paying attention to me!?

Sorry, Little Webby.  It's Pandarsenic's turn right now.  Now go play with your blocks or something.  I hear they're lemon-flavored.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 16, 2010, 06:50:13 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 16, 2010, 06:34:12 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 16, 2010, 05:55:07 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 16, 2010, 05:41:41 pm

And how am I sidelining?

Further comment has been removed until I get a reply to that.

You've basically made no statements other than "let's policy-lynch Org, durhurhur."  Your contributions are sparse and mediocre.  I know you like chilling, but seriously... this is a bit too chill.

So am I!

Why isn't anyone paying attention to me!?

Go suck a lemon.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 16, 2010, 06:52:30 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 16, 2010, 06:40:52 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 16, 2010, 06:34:12 pm

So am I!

Why isn't anyone paying attention to me!?

Sorry, Little Webby.  It's Pandarsenic's turn right now.  Now go play with your blocks or something.  I hear they're lemon-flavored.

If it's my turn you should respond to me :c

And WAIT A MINUTE

YOUR ACCUSATION IS I'M ACTING TOO MUCH LIKE I NORMALLY DO

Quote from: Vector on April 16, 2010, 05:55:07 pm

I know you like chilling, but seriously... this is a bit too chill.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Vector on April 16, 2010, 06:56:35 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 16, 2010, 06:52:30 pm

If it's my turn you should respond to me :c

And WAIT A MINUTE

YOUR ACCUSATION IS I'M ACTING TOO MUCH LIKE I NORMALLY DO

Quote from: Vector on April 16, 2010, 05:55:07 pm

I know you like chilling, but seriously... this is a bit too chill.

No, my accusation is that you may like being chill, but you'd better step up to the plate more and get scumhunting.  This situation is kind of sad.

And seriously, if you think someone is scum, then go attack him.  You're just kind of sitting around right now, doing very little because ... Org is annoying and you have a new policy, so now you've got to just kind of sit here twiddling your thumbs?  I mean, seriously.  It is time for cracking heads, doodabuddy.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 16, 2010, 06:57:20 pm

It's called being Too Pandarsenic.

Which is a panda tell.

Pandas.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 16, 2010, 07:36:08 pm

My scumhunting is not letting Org off the hook until he's scumhunting.

And I'm Too Pandarsenic, I'm a Poisoner! Aahhhh.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 16, 2010, 08:39:53 pm

And I am back. Janus, that "more later" went to bed. Then had school, a service project, and dinner with parents and will be posted after I finish checking up on all my threads.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 16, 2010, 09:37:59 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 16, 2010, 07:36:08 pm

My scumhunting is not letting Org off the hook until he's scumhunting.

And I'm Too Pandarsenic, I'm a Poisoner! Aahhhh.

Hehehe. Yeah. Ill take a look, what say you.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 16, 2010, 09:54:31 pm

*Waits impatiently*

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 16, 2010, 10:09:49 pm

Ignoring Forsaken, Solifuge.
Buddying.
In basically EVERY POST.
Then saying his jester act is scumhunting.
Yeah...

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 16, 2010, 10:13:51 pm

All right for now. Unvote Org, vote Jim Groovester for my prior reasons.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Kashyyk on April 17, 2010, 08:20:28 am

sorry for dissappearing there, i'll unvote and read through all those posts.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 17, 2010, 08:36:50 am

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 16, 2010, 10:13:51 pm

All right for now. Unvote Org, vote Jim Groovester for my prior reasons.

That was alright? Really?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 17, 2010, 01:15:47 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 17, 2010, 08:36:50 am

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 16, 2010, 10:13:51 pm

All right for now. Unvote Org, vote Jim Groovester for my prior reasons.

That was alright? Really?

It was kinda weak...

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 17, 2010, 02:54:46 pm

I know that was half-assed, thus the "for now." You've stated two people you claim are suspicious and I want to deal with Jim, but you're not off the hook. I just want to deal with someone other than you for now because god knows I don't have the patience to keep this up forever. That's your whole strategy as scum though, so... ugh.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 17, 2010, 03:15:27 pm

I'm trying to think of something to say, but nothing is coming out.

Let's see Kashyyk's scum list.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 17, 2010, 06:48:44 pm

Wow, wasn't able to access the forums for a while there. Kept getting some error.

I'd like to know if Web's scum list has changed any, and who he would rather have as scum buddies in this game.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Leafsnail on April 17, 2010, 06:58:52 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 16, 2010, 01:50:25 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 16, 2010, 12:42:43 pm

Pandarsenic.

I agree with this as well.

Uh... what?  Any reasons to back it up?

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 16, 2010, 04:25:02 pm

@Leafsnail: I didn't want to vote Forsaken. I don't think he's scum.

So... why did you say

Quote from: Jokerman

Man Forsaken, I'd vote you just as a matter of principle, because that was some shit. But for the moment, there are scummier players on my list.

Coded for convenience.  Note that "scummier" implies you do find him scummy, just not as scummy as the others.

Quote from: webadict on April 16, 2010, 06:34:12 pm

So am I!

Why isn't anyone paying attention to me!?

Because we kinda prefer you like this, and we're worried that lynching you for acting calm will make you revert back to jerkface webadict.

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 16, 2010, 10:13:51 pm

All right for now. Unvote Org, vote Jim Groovester for my prior reasons.

Was what Org posted really enough to defend himself from your accusations?

Quote from: Kashyyk on April 17, 2010, 08:20:28 am

sorry for dissappearing there, i'll unvote and read through all those posts.

You better.  Unvote.  Back to Jokerman.

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 17, 2010, 02:54:46 pm

I know that was half-assed, thus the "for now." You've stated two people you claim are suspicious and I want to deal with Jim, but you're not off the hook. I just want to deal with someone other than you for now because god knows I don't have the patience to keep this up forever. That's your whole strategy as scum though, so... ugh.

I'm not sure what you're saying.  You'd policy lynch Org for being Org but you don't have the patience to do it?

I don't think I'll do Lynch All Lurkers analysis now.  The forum errors have been keeping me off, and I suspect some of the players here have been getting them too.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 17, 2010, 07:02:15 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 17, 2010, 06:48:44 pm

Wow, wasn't able to access the forums for a while there. Kept getting some error.

I'd like to know if Web's scum list has changed any, and who he would rather have as scum buddies in this game.

Who would I want as scumbuddies? Three of me: The only real team that could get things done.

What was my scum list to begin with, might I add?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 17, 2010, 07:56:07 pm

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 17, 2010, 06:58:52 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 16, 2010, 10:13:51 pm

All right for now. Unvote Org, vote Jim Groovester for my prior reasons.

Was what Org posted really enough to defend himself from your accusations?

Addressed this.

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 17, 2010, 02:54:46 pm

I know that was half-assed, thus the "for now." [Org has] stated two people [he claims] are suspicious and I want to deal with Jim, but [Org's] not off the hook. I just want to deal with someone other than [Org] for now because god knows I don't have the patience to keep this up forever. That's [Org's] whole strategy as scum though, so... ugh.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 17, 2010, 08:10:13 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 17, 2010, 07:02:15 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 17, 2010, 06:48:44 pm

Wow, wasn't able to access the forums for a while there. Kept getting some error.

I'd like to know if Web's scum list has changed any, and who he would rather have as scum buddies in this game.

Who would I want as scumbuddies? Three of me: The only real team that could get things done.

What was my scum list to begin with, might I add?

Way to completely avoid the question. So you have no scum list at all, even in your head? Nice.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mr.Person on April 17, 2010, 08:19:26 pm

@ The Org Problem: If he tries to go back to lurking, lynch him. Don't let up just because he says something, lynch him.

I'll be watching, too.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 18, 2010, 09:51:34 am

Sorry, havent been able to post tooo much do to errors

Pandar, it is kinda weird that you just drop me.
Still.
Your reasons to drop me are kinda weak.
If you guys are gonna policy lynch me, you have to stick with it.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 18, 2010, 11:00:43 am

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 16, 2010, 08:39:53 pm

And I am back. Janus, that "more later" went to bed. Then had school, a service project, and dinner with parents and will be posted after I finish checking up on all my threads.

Back with a worthless post on Friday and nothing since then.  I'm perfectly understanding that people have lives outside of the forums, but this post came after the end of when the day would originally have been.  If you don't actually post what you've promised by the end of the day Monday evening (hopefully earlier than that though), you deserve to be lynched scum.  unvote and vote RedWarrior0.

Quote from: Org on April 18, 2010, 09:51:34 am

Sorry, havent been able to post tooo much do to errors

Pandar, it is kinda weird that you just drop me.
Still.
Your reasons to drop me are kinda weak.
If you guys are gonna policy lynch me, you have to stick with it.

Org, you are an odd one.  You have a tendency towards strange wording and I could swear that this post is asking us to lynch you.  Do you really want to be lynched?  Why?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 01:10:57 pm

Forums have been up and down for me, all morning I was unable to get in. Anyway I'm sticking to my vote.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 18, 2010, 01:31:55 pm

Okay, what I meant to say was that if Pandar was so on to policy lynching me, he shouldnt be changing his vote around.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 01:32:49 pm

Kinda like I haven't? :P

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 18, 2010, 01:35:33 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 01:32:49 pm

Kinda like I haven't? :P

But I am already voting for yooooou!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 01:43:47 pm

Quote from: Org on April 18, 2010, 01:35:33 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 01:32:49 pm

Kinda like I haven't? :P

But I am already voting for yooooou!

I voted you fiiiirst!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 18, 2010, 01:44:21 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 01:43:47 pm

Quote from: Org on April 18, 2010, 01:35:33 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 01:32:49 pm

Kinda like I haven't? :P

But I am already voting for yooooou!

I voted you fiiiirst!

But I actually have good reassssssooooooooonnnnns!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 01:46:09 pm

Quote from: Org on April 18, 2010, 01:44:21 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 01:43:47 pm

Quote from: Org on April 18, 2010, 01:35:33 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 01:32:49 pm

Kinda like I haven't? :P

But I am already voting for yooooou!

I voted you fiiiirst!

But I actually have good reassssssooooooooonnnnns!

Revenge isn't a good reasoooon!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 18, 2010, 01:47:00 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 01:46:09 pm

Quote from: Org on April 18, 2010, 01:44:21 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 01:43:47 pm

Quote from: Org on April 18, 2010, 01:35:33 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 01:32:49 pm

Kinda like I haven't? :P

But I am already voting for yooooou!

I voted you fiiiirst!

But I actually have good reassssssooooooooonnnnns!

Revenge isn't a good reasoooon!

Policy voting isnt a good reasoooon!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 18, 2010, 01:47:48 pm

Shut up.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 01:48:10 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 18, 2010, 01:47:48 pm

Shut up.

Stop buddying.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 18, 2010, 01:48:53 pm

That makes 0 sense to me doodabuddy.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 18, 2010, 01:49:21 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 01:48:10 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 18, 2010, 01:47:48 pm

Shut up.

Stop buddying.

Stop buddying.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 01:53:09 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 18, 2010, 01:48:53 pm

That makes 0 sense to me doodabuddy.

Stop buddying

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 18, 2010, 01:54:44 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 01:53:09 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 18, 2010, 01:48:53 pm

That makes 0 sense to me doodabuddy.

Stop buddying

Stop scumming

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 01:57:20 pm

Quote from: Org on April 18, 2010, 01:54:44 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 01:53:09 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 18, 2010, 01:48:53 pm

That makes 0 sense to me doodabuddy.

Stop buddying

Stop scumming

Stop pyramiding?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 18, 2010, 01:57:53 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 17, 2010, 08:10:13 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 17, 2010, 07:02:15 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 17, 2010, 06:48:44 pm

Wow, wasn't able to access the forums for a while there. Kept getting some error.

I'd like to know if Web's scum list has changed any, and who he would rather have as scum buddies in this game.

Who would I want as scumbuddies? Three of me: The only real team that could get things done.

What was my scum list to begin with, might I add?

Way to completely avoid the question. So you have no scum list at all, even in your head? Nice.

I didn't avoid any question. I pushed it further into the future because I was wondering how you knew what my scumlist was to begin with.

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 01:57:20 pm

Quote from: Org on April 18, 2010, 01:54:44 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 01:53:09 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 18, 2010, 01:48:53 pm

That makes 0 sense to me doodabuddy.

Stop buddying

Stop scumming

Stop pyramiding?

You're both going to live very short lives doing this.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 02:01:46 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 18, 2010, 01:57:53 pm

I didn't avoid any question. I pushed it further into the future because I was wondering how you knew what my scumlist was to begin with.

Never said I knew it, I was asking if it had changed in light of the recent posts. Also stop avoiding answering and just answer, scumface.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 18, 2010, 02:02:02 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 01:57:20 pm

Quote from: Org on April 18, 2010, 01:54:44 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 01:53:09 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 18, 2010, 01:48:53 pm

That makes 0 sense to me doodabuddy.

Stop buddying

Stop scumming

Stop pyramiding?

Stop deflecting.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 18, 2010, 02:23:23 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 02:01:46 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 18, 2010, 01:57:53 pm

I didn't avoid any question. I pushed it further into the future because I was wondering how you knew what my scumlist was to begin with.

Never said I knew it, I was asking if it had changed in light of the recent posts. Also stop avoiding answering and just answer, scumface.

It has changed.

But how am I avoiding? Tell me that.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 02:25:22 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 18, 2010, 02:23:23 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 02:01:46 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 18, 2010, 01:57:53 pm

I didn't avoid any question. I pushed it further into the future because I was wondering how you knew what my scumlist was to begin with.

Never said I knew it, I was asking if it had changed in light of the recent posts. Also stop avoiding answering and just answer, scumface.

It has changed.

But how am I avoiding? Tell me that.

You replied twice without answering. So would you care to share your thoughts on scum then, since you have recently seen something that changed your mind?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mr.Person on April 18, 2010, 02:26:22 pm

I think there's been more Org-posts today than there have been total posts yesterday.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 18, 2010, 02:41:25 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 02:25:22 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 18, 2010, 02:23:23 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 02:01:46 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 18, 2010, 01:57:53 pm

I didn't avoid any question. I pushed it further into the future because I was wondering how you knew what my scumlist was to begin with.

Never said I knew it, I was asking if it had changed in light of the recent posts. Also stop avoiding answering and just answer, scumface.

It has changed.

But how am I avoiding? Tell me that.

You replied twice without answering. So would you care to share your thoughts on scum then, since you have recently seen something that changed your mind?

Well, see, now you're actually asking questions that matter. I mean, all you were doing before was pointing out one detail on a question I was trying to get more information on and therefore couldn't possibly answer. Unless you wish to get details completely out of context, I intend and will continue to pry apart your question in hopes of finding your intentions.

Failure for me to do so would be simple carelessness, just as failure for you to actually ask a meaningful question would be ignorant on your part. Seeing as how you didn't mention anything about the scum team question, which I also would've seemingly "avoided" (Using your incredibly broad sense of the word), I'm going to assume that you have no intention on actually finding any relevant information from the questions. The only implications of this would be an attempt to fit into the Random Vote Stage, which has long since passed, or to waste my valuable time, which would be a grand error on your part.

Hence, I can only assume that your continuing insistence on these questions is simply meant to distract, detract, and otherwise derail the entirety of the conversation hereto present.

So, the real question is, do you really want to ask that question? Or would you rather try scumhunting?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 02:45:40 pm

I'd like you to answer questions put to you instead of babbling. If you don't want to, or simply can't, then that's fine too and says a lot.

You say you're not avoiding but the initial question was fairly simple and you've made a big production about it, forcing me to persist to get any information from you at all. Why aren't you just answering? What are you hiding behind that wall of text which tells us nothing?

If you're trying to cast suspicion on me, save your breath. Just answer the damn question.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 18, 2010, 02:54:21 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 02:45:40 pm

I'd like you to answer questions put to you instead of babbling. If you don't want to, or simply can't, then that's fine too and says a lot.

You say you're not avoiding but the initial question was fairly simple and you've made a big production about it, forcing me to persist to get any information from you at all. Why aren't you just answering? What are you hiding behind that wall of text which tells us nothing?

If you're trying to cast suspicion on me, save your breath. Just answer the damn question.

I'm not trying to cast suspicion on you because you're doing just fine yourself.

I answered your previous questions. The fact that you failed to specify is your fault.

Now, go back to whatever it was you were doing. What was it, asking meaningless questions? Oh wait...

So basically, no. Because the questions are meant to be pointless. Otherwise, you would've asked me to answer the scum team question.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 05:04:48 pm

So in the end you're refusing to share your thoughts on who might be scum. Got it

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 18, 2010, 05:22:06 pm

I am very surprised I've managed to not post this long. Sorry for the absence, I had... unexpected parental issues.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 18, 2010, 05:24:23 pm

That's fine, you don't have to post anything significant, you're exempt.

That's an active lurking post.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 18, 2010, 05:26:59 pm

Yes, I know about that. I'll get active.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 18, 2010, 05:27:54 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 05:04:48 pm

So in the end you're refusing to share your thoughts on who might be scum. Got it

Correct. Mostly because it is entirely irrelevant at this moment, and any mention of my suspects tends to be wrong at this stage of the game, which scum tend to latch onto, kill me, then use my list to persecute people for them.

Anything else I can help you fail at?

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 18, 2010, 05:24:23 pm

That's fine, you don't have to post anything significant, you're exempt.

That's an active lurking post.

Can we PLEASE lynch him?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 18, 2010, 05:30:28 pm

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 18, 2010, 05:26:59 pm

Yes, I know about that. I'll get active.

Better.

Quote from: webadict on April 18, 2010, 05:27:54 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 18, 2010, 05:24:23 pm

That's fine, you don't have to post anything significant, you're exempt.

That's an active lurking post.

Can we PLEASE lynch him?

Beggars can't be choosers.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 18, 2010, 08:14:55 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 15, 2010, 06:09:26 pm

I'd like to point out how this is proving my point about how tracking the hours between posts is a useless measure of participation.

Do you have anything to say, Eduren, or will we just have to lynch you for flagrant and deliberate and unapologetic lurking?

This is the last post of Jim Groovester's that I could find. It's over 100 back.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 18, 2010, 08:28:48 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 18, 2010, 08:14:55 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 15, 2010, 06:09:26 pm

I'd like to point out how this is proving my point about how tracking the hours between posts is a useless measure of participation.

Do you have anything to say, Eduren, or will we just have to lynch you for flagrant and deliberate and unapologetic lurking?

This is the last post of Jim Groovester's that I could find. It's over 100 back.

Yeah.
MOD, PROD JIM

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 18, 2010, 08:29:35 pm

Oh wait. Weekends
Give him til late-ish Monday.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 18, 2010, 08:32:53 pm

That was on Thursday. He just disappeared.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Org on April 18, 2010, 08:33:40 pm

Yeah, but weekends, people do stuff

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 18, 2010, 08:35:22 pm

Eh. My vote stays until his statement about lurking and tracking hours stops being incredibly ironic.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Leafsnail on April 18, 2010, 08:36:52 pm

Sorry... I meant to post today, but spent all night getting to number one spot on irc instead.  I'll write something tomorrow :/.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 18, 2010, 09:36:13 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 18, 2010, 08:35:22 pm

Eh. My vote stays until his statement about lurking and tracking hours stops being incredibly ironic.

... You want to lynch Jim and not Redwarrior?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 18, 2010, 09:38:14 pm

I'm giving RedWarrior a chance like I have for Org right now, it'll become apparent by the end of the Day if either do anything.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 18, 2010, 10:03:21 pm

Yeah, apologies if anyone's been upset. I get more active time during the week than on the weekends.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 18, 2010, 10:04:37 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 18, 2010, 10:03:21 pm

Yeah, apologies if anyone's been upset. I get more active time during the week than on the weekends.

this, though I tend to have unpredictable times anyway.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 18, 2010, 10:51:33 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 18, 2010, 09:36:13 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 18, 2010, 08:35:22 pm

Eh. My vote stays until his statement about lurking and tracking hours stops being incredibly ironic.

... You want to lynch Jim and not Redwarrior?

RedWarrior0 is being an obnox activelurker but Jim is missing entirely.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mr.Person on April 18, 2010, 11:07:30 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 18, 2010, 05:27:54 pm

Correct. Mostly because it is entirely irrelevant at this moment, and any mention of my suspects tends to be wrong at this stage of the game, which scum tend to latch onto, kill me, then use my list to persecute people for them.

Cry me a godamn river, scum. This isn't town Webadict, town Webadict doesn't even consider the possibility he's wrong. Never has, never will. There is no way that you're sitting here refusing not to say who's scum because you're worried that you're wrong. That's bullshit.

Quote from: webadict on April 18, 2010, 05:27:54 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 18, 2010, 05:24:23 pm

That's fine, you don't have to post anything significant, you're exempt.

That's an active lurking post.

Can we PLEASE lynch him?

Who is this directed at?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mr.Person on April 18, 2010, 11:07:58 pm

*Refusing to say who's scum

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 11:08:53 pm

Quote from: Mr.Person on April 18, 2010, 11:07:30 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 18, 2010, 05:27:54 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 18, 2010, 05:24:23 pm

That's fine, you don't have to post anything significant, you're exempt.

That's an active lurking post.

Can we PLEASE lynch him?

Who is this directed at?

I believe he was talking about Red

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mr.Person on April 18, 2010, 11:11:03 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 11:08:53 pm

Quote from: Mr.Person on April 18, 2010, 11:07:30 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 18, 2010, 05:27:54 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 18, 2010, 05:24:23 pm

That's fine, you don't have to post anything significant, you're exempt.

That's an active lurking post.

Can we PLEASE lynch him?

Who is this directed at?

I believe he was talking about Red

I never knew Forsaken was secretly Webadict.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 18, 2010, 11:11:43 pm

Quote from: Mr.Person on April 18, 2010, 11:07:30 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 18, 2010, 05:27:54 pm

Correct. Mostly because it is entirely irrelevant at this moment, and any mention of my suspects tends to be wrong at this stage of the game, which scum tend to latch onto, kill me, then use my list to persecute people for them.

Cry me a godamn river, scum. This isn't town Webadict, town Webadict doesn't even consider the possibility he's wrong. Never has, never will. There is no way that you're sitting here refusing not to say who's scum because you're worried that you're wrong. That's bullshit.

!!

So much that. I thought something was off about WUBA WUBA WUBA but thought it was just him being obnoxious to me pissing me off, but Mr.Person is right about this.

Ninja'd: forsaken1111 may not be WUBA WUBA WUBA but he's right about whom that was for.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 11:16:27 pm

Well we know Web won't answer simple questions, so I answered for him.

And yeah looking back over that exchange and in light of what Mr. Person said(which I agree with) I am going to drop my policy lynch on Org and vote Webadict. Won't answer a simple question, stalls for the better part of a day, then refuses to share his thoughts on scum 'because he may be wrong'.

What's wrong, afraid you won't be able to justify that huge ego if you make some incorrect predictions?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 18, 2010, 11:30:15 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 11:16:27 pm

Well we know Web won't answer simple questions, so I answered for him.

And yeah looking back over that exchange and in light of what Mr. Person said(which I agree with) I am going to drop my policy lynch on Org and vote Webadict. Won't answer a simple question, stalls for the better part of a day, then refuses to share his thoughts on scum 'because he may be wrong'.

What's wrong, afraid you won't be able to justify that huge ego if you make some incorrect predictions?

Lol. I answered several questions, many of which were quite simple with answers, many of which were also simple. If you expected complexity, I'd have tried asking a question that involved thinking.

So, as to where you think I'm stalling, I've already told you that I wasn't, and you know this. You just refuse to admit that I already told you so.

And no. I'm never afraid of making a mistake. They're actually quite common. I'm simply playing strategically. I can't die during the Day, and therefore have all Day to make any judgments. Quite possibly before I die, but I find it very unlikely. I mean, what with everyone focusing on lurkers instead of scumhunting.

You can suck a lemon.

I'd like to parallel your argument to a similar one: You are scum. Because of what so-and-so said, your mother, a black horse, and today is Friday. How do they compare? I stole arguments from so-and-so, listed unimportant things, and then mentioned something that wasn't even true. In hopes of supporting an argument. One that probably isn't true.

But, that's just me. And that's just you. And we aren't similar. So, the very idea anyone would try to deconstruct my rationales to methodize my thought pattern is laughable in its own right but clearly uses meta to the extremes.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mr.Person on April 18, 2010, 11:47:21 pm

So Webadict, who do you think is scum?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 19, 2010, 12:00:01 am

Quote from: Mr.Person on April 18, 2010, 11:47:21 pm

So Webadict, who do you think is scum?

As of right now or in the future, or who I think right now is scum but not after I answer the question?

The real question is who gives a crap what I think. I could say my main suspects are Mephansteras, God, the 3 Stooges, Santa Claus, and the Fax Machine from Office Space, but they're all meaningless without a point.

So, for simplicity's sake, I'll give you one suspect because it technically answers the question and makes me look like more of a jerk (Although, one could argue that I'm answer the question in the correct manner, as the sentence itself implies I am wary of only 1 person): Pandarsenic. But I'd still want to get rid of RedWarrior0.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 19, 2010, 01:06:46 am

Unvote.

Webby, I'm mighty suspicious of you at this point, because you're really dodgy and because you're still set on one person despite all the evidence you gave as to others' (forsaken) scumminess.

However, something stuck out to me much MUCH more:

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 02:45:40 pm

If you're trying to cast suspicion on me, save your breath. Just answer the damn question.

Seriously? This is like...come on. What a feeble way to wrap up your attack. "Here's my evidence against you! It's so good, you can't even think about accusing me!" Honestly, it juts made me more suspicious of you, forsaken. What was your reasoning here? Why shouldn't he try to cast suspicion on you, if that's the point of the game?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 19, 2010, 05:54:11 am

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 19, 2010, 01:06:46 am

However, something stuck out to me much MUCH more:

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 02:45:40 pm

If you're trying to cast suspicion on me, save your breath. Just answer the damn question.

Seriously? This is like...come on. What a feeble way to wrap up your attack. "Here's my evidence against you! It's so good, you can't even think about accusing me!" Honestly, it juts made me more suspicious of you, forsaken. What was your reasoning here? Why shouldn't he try to cast suspicion on you, if that's the point of the game?

Good job, you siezed upon the least important part of the post. I said that because I was already majority voted, so he may as well save his breath.

See I'm not worried about living, I am worried about exposing scum. Day will end, and you will see that I was Town. I hope then you will remember Web's actions here and not be fooled by his sudden backpedaling.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 19, 2010, 08:47:21 am

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 19, 2010, 05:54:11 am

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 19, 2010, 01:06:46 am

However, something stuck out to me much MUCH more:

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 02:45:40 pm

If you're trying to cast suspicion on me, save your breath. Just answer the damn question.

Seriously? This is like...come on. What a feeble way to wrap up your attack. "Here's my evidence against you! It's so good, you can't even think about accusing me!" Honestly, it juts made me more suspicious of you, forsaken. What was your reasoning here? Why shouldn't he try to cast suspicion on you, if that's the point of the game?

Good job, you siezed upon the least important part of the post. I said that because I was already majority voted, so he may as well save his breath.

See I'm not worried about living, I am worried about exposing scum. Day will end, and you will see that I was Town. I hope then you will remember Web's actions here and not be fooled by his sudden backpedaling.

Except I'm not scum, so such a statement would be futile, as would your actions. You don't really understand how roles work, and who they usually target. Even if I WERE scum, I'd still be acting just like this, so your evidence against me is otherwise useless. It's like me saying ToonyMan is scum because he doesn't make any sense.

If you truly wish to find scum, you'd need to investigate everyone's actions and post what is scummy about them. That'll get you something if you're about to die. Now much, but it's better than this failure.

Also, I don't understand how this isn't a part of my ego:

Quote from: webadict on April 18, 2010, 05:27:54 pm

Correct. Mostly because it is entirely irrelevant at this moment, and any mention of my suspects tends to be wrong at this stage of the game, which scum tend to latch onto, kill me, then use my list to persecute people for them.

I mean, wouldn't that imply that I assume everyone holds my opinion in such high regards that I'll assume they'll follow through with it?

That's stupid. They never follow through with it. Even when it's lylo, there's evidence, and there's only one scum remaining.

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 19, 2010, 01:06:46 am

Unvote.

Webby, I'm mighty suspicious of you at this point, because you're really dodgy and because you're still set on one person despite all the evidence you gave as to others' (forsaken) scumminess.

However, something stuck out to me much MUCH more:

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 02:45:40 pm

If you're trying to cast suspicion on me, save your breath. Just answer the damn question.

Seriously? This is like...come on. What a feeble way to wrap up your attack. "Here's my evidence against you! It's so good, you can't even think about accusing me!" Honestly, it juts made me more suspicious of you, forsaken. What was your reasoning here? Why shouldn't he try to cast suspicion on you, if that's the point of the game?

... Because scum would do that? And that post was also before he voted me, making your point even more moot, as well as terrible reasoning. It never wrapped up an attack it was never really a part of.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 19, 2010, 09:26:30 am

Reply #330 (http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=54074.msg1177297#msg1177297) to Reply #341 (http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=54074.msg1177372#msg1177372) are completely worthless Org + Forsaken posts with Toony trying (and failing) to regain control.  I wish there was a way to hide posts inline.  Maybe some sort of GreaseMonkey script.  Hmm.

Quote from: Mr.Person on April 18, 2010, 02:26:22 pm

I think there's been more Org-posts today than there have been total posts yesterday.

Org-posts =/= useful posts (in general, but sometimes he's suprising)

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 18, 2010, 05:22:06 pm

I am very surprised I've managed to not post this long. Sorry for the absence, I had... unexpected parental issues.

Yes, but you still haven't posted that 'more later'.  Please do so. >:(

Quote from: webadict on April 19, 2010, 12:00:01 am

The real question is who gives a crap what I think. I could say my main suspects are Mephansteras, God, the 3 Stooges, Santa Claus, and the Fax Machine from Office Space, but they're all meaningless without a point.

You totally should have put Eduren on that list, you've actually voted for him.  (/sarcasm)

Quote from: webadict on April 19, 2010, 08:47:21 am

Except I'm not scum, so such a statement would be futile, as would your actions. You don't really understand how roles work, and who they usually target. Even if I WERE scum, I'd still be acting just like this, so your evidence against me is otherwise useless. It's like me saying ToonyMan is scum because he doesn't make any sense.

If you truly wish to find scum, you'd need to investigate everyone's actions and post what is scummy about them. That'll get you something if you're about to die. Now much, but it's better than this failure.

Except that we as a collective have this annoying tendency to basically ignore dead people.  Sure they can't talk, but they're also confirmed as either scum or town and should color everything said premortem (is that a viable word?).

More if/when RedWarrior comes back.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 19, 2010, 09:58:39 am

I forgot about Eduren.

And it's not that everyone ignores me when I'm dead. If there's a Medium, I have a little bit of influence. But, mostly ignores would be correct.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mephansteras on April 19, 2010, 11:05:03 am

The Whiteboard
forsaken1111: Jokerman-EXE, Org, Solifuge
Jim Groovester: Pandarsenic
Jokerman-EXE: Leafsnail, Mr.Person, ToonyMan
Leafsnail: Jim Groovester
Pandarsenic: Vector
RedWarrior0: JanusTwoface, webadict
webadict: forsaken1111

---

Reminder: Day ends ~5pm Pacific Today

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 11:09:55 am

Extend. I want to see if Jim shows up.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 19, 2010, 11:11:19 am

or if Red posts something of any consequence...

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 11:17:30 am

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 19, 2010, 11:11:19 am

or if Red posts something of any consequence...

He won't.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Vector on April 19, 2010, 11:19:18 am

Blorgh.  Okay, I've been keeping away from here due to more sudden RL badness... but I'll try to do a thread reread later today.  My mental faculties are back, at least.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 19, 2010, 11:24:44 am

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 11:17:30 am

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 19, 2010, 11:11:19 am

or if Red posts something of any consequence...

He won't.

Then let's lynch him.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 19, 2010, 11:39:15 am

Quote from: webadict on April 19, 2010, 11:24:44 am

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 11:17:30 am

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 19, 2010, 11:11:19 am

or if Red posts something of any consequence...

He won't.

Then let's lynch him.

I can get behind a lurker lynch but my swapping right now just leaves us in a 3-way tie...

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 19, 2010, 11:40:27 am

Do we really need a second extension? If we keep waiting on lurkers, we'll be delaying forever, and this game will never move forward. Besides, unless a more tempting tactical target presents itself, I was under the impression that we had a Gentlemans Agreemant to lynch, consume, or abduct all lurkers.

Anywho, my lynch vote has been the same for the weekend, and I still haven't seen reason to change it, my spotty catch-up time notwithstanding.  I have only a spotty idea what's been posted over the last 3 days. If someone posted a brief summary of Web's current beef, and what folks are yet bickering over, I would platonically love them forever. Otherwise, I'll try to get caught up later today/tomorrow.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 11:48:09 am

I really do want to see if ol' Groovestar shows up.

I'm calling him Groovestar until he posts.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 19, 2010, 11:51:31 am

Quote from: Solifuge on April 19, 2010, 11:40:27 am

Do we really need a second extension?

Did you at least look at the vote count? You're pro day-ending when we'll end in a no-lynch?

If that's your intent, fine, but give reasons at least and say so. What you posted makes it seem like you hammered something out without even looking at the most recent page or two.

Here I'll help:

Quote from: Mephansteras on April 19, 2010, 11:05:03 am

The Whiteboard
forsaken1111: Jokerman-EXE, Org, Solifuge
Jim Groovester: Pandarsenic
Jokerman-EXE: Leafsnail, Mr.Person, ToonyMan
Leafsnail: Jim Groovester
Pandarsenic: Vector
RedWarrior0: JanusTwoface, webadict
webadict: forsaken1111

---

Reminder: Day ends ~5pm Pacific Today

I'll wait and see what others post, but I don't think it's a good idea to no-lynch day 1.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mr.Person on April 19, 2010, 11:52:43 am

Quote from: Solifuge on April 19, 2010, 11:40:27 am

Do we really need a second extension? If we keep waiting on lurkers, we'll be delaying forever, and this game will never move forward. Besides, unless a more tempting tactical target presents itself, I was under the impression that we had a Gentlemans Agreemant to lynch, consume, or abduct all lurkers.

Anywho, my lynch vote has been the same for the weekend, and I still haven't seen reason to change it, my spotty catch-up time notwithstanding.  I have only a spotty idea what's been posted over the last 3 days. If someone posted a brief summary of Web's current beef, and what folks are yet bickering over, I would platonically love them forever. Otherwise, I'll try to get caught up later today/tomorrow.

Holy crap, you're not even trying, are you? Why would you post what you think should happen if you haven't even read anything?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: webadict on April 19, 2010, 12:16:32 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 19, 2010, 11:40:27 am

Do we really need a second extension? If we keep waiting on lurkers, we'll be delaying forever, and this game will never move forward. Besides, unless a more tempting tactical target presents itself, I was under the impression that we had a Gentlemans Agreemant to lynch, consume, or abduct all lurkers.

Anywho, my lynch vote has been the same for the weekend, and I still haven't seen reason to change it, my spotty catch-up time notwithstanding.  I have only a spotty idea what's been posted over the last 3 days. If someone posted a brief summary of Web's current beef, and what folks are yet bickering over, I would platonically love them forever. Otherwise, I'll try to get caught up later today/tomorrow.

Summary: Webadict is awesome and people that vote for him are not.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 19, 2010, 12:21:22 pm

And that is why you read up yourself. Any summary will be biased by whoever writes it.

Which, I think, is the point web was oh-so-subtly trying to make.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Solifuge on April 19, 2010, 12:28:53 pm

I thought we had a majority on Forsaken still. Also, the wonderful thing about asking for summaries from others is that you don't have to trust them implicitly. In fact, you can analyze the review for biases and intent. You can also analyze people who flip their shit over very very minor things. Ye gods, it is belike to eldritch magicks!

So, for starters, why AREN'T we in a majority against Forsaken111 or RedWarrior0? Does anyone have a reason why one is less scummy than the other?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 19, 2010, 01:35:14 pm

Alright, what I see right now is that Org, Redwarrior, Kaskyyk, and Jim are lurking something bad.

Jim at least has the excuse of not being here, either way I don't think a lurker lynch is going to help us, they're chance kills (except for maybe Red), I want someone (Jokerman) dead for being scummy as hell.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: ToonyMan on April 19, 2010, 01:35:52 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 19, 2010, 12:28:53 pm

So, for starters, why AREN'T we in a majority against Forsaken111 or RedWarrior0? Does anyone have a reason why one is less scummy than the other?

What is this?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 19, 2010, 01:48:15 pm

I'll extend as well. It's still early in the week, you never know what might happen.

Though if by the end of the day we haven't heard from some of the lurkers, I'm still down with the Gentlemen's Agreement.  :P

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Leafsnail on April 19, 2010, 02:01:16 pm

FRICKIN' LURKERS.  Unvote.

I'd be fully behind a Kashyyk lynch, if we can get an extension.  He lurked, lurked some more, posted when I called him out on it, AND THEN CONTINUED TO LURK.  This is exactly the kind of bullshit Lynch All Lurkers is meant to stop.  He IS around, he's just choosing to say nothing.

Jim Groovester seems to be genuinely absent from the site, but he NEEDS to get back here or get replaced.  RedWarrior needs to provide the analysis he promised, and Org needs to post for today.  I'll get a Lynch All Lurkers table up later (not so useless now, eh?).

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Mephansteras on April 19, 2010, 03:09:57 pm

Kashyyk has requested a replacement due to lack of time to properly play the game.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 19, 2010, 03:13:53 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 11:48:09 am

I really do want to see if ol' Groovestar shows up.

I'm calling him Groovestar until he posts.

Don't you have better things to do while you wait for me to show up? Anyways, I'm here. Allow me to look closely through the thirteen pages of game that happened while I was gone to find out what exactly you wanted me to show up for.

Or if you're nice, you could restate it for me.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - We still hate vacations
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 19, 2010, 03:16:33 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 19, 2010, 03:13:53 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 11:48:09 am

I really do want to see if ol' Groovestar shows up.

I'm calling him Groovestar until he posts.

Don't you have better things to do while you wait for me to show up? Anyways, I'm here. Allow me to look closely through the thirteen pages of game that happened while I was gone to find out what exactly you wanted me to show up for.

Or if you're nice, you could restate it for me.

Mostly we wanted you to play the game with us.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Org on April 19, 2010, 03:28:30 pm

Ive been gone for like seventeen hours geez.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 19, 2010, 03:51:46 pm

Quote from: Org on April 19, 2010, 03:28:30 pm

Ive been gone for like seventeen hours geez.

Two more and you'd have missed the end of the day.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 19, 2010, 04:22:57 pm

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 16, 2010, 09:42:13 am

Short version:
- RedWarrior, where is this 'more later' post you promised?
- Leafsnail is posting data only to post, there are better data sets to collect
- Forsaken still sounds scummy and isn't being terribly useful
- Forsaken and Leafsnail made posts including Eduren, webadict voted
- Org is being more useful but is too role focused

Right now (if I've counted correctly) we have a four way tie on forsaken, Org, Solifuge, and ToonyMan.

Jim, Vector, Kashyyk, and Webadict, you are the four not voting for one of the first four.  To each of you, which of the first list do you find most scummy right now (seeing as the day ends today)?

As I recall, I'm actually voting for Leafsnail right now. Reasons were making useless overtures to demonstrate towniness, and by calling for further examination on me instead of openly suspecting me. This may not be completely relevant right now since it's a few days old, but you asked a question, so I answered.

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 16, 2010, 12:22:04 pm

Jim is being dumb, but I've played with scum Jim and town Jim fairly recently, and this definately looks like town Jim.  Scum Jim is passive to a ridiculous degree (think Para 14).

Hmm. So quick to declare me town after I accuse you of being scum? Interesting.

Regardless, I find your answers perfectly reasonable even though I still don't like all the lurker counts you've been doing. Thus I will unvote for the time being.

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 16, 2010, 10:13:51 pm

All right for now. Unvote Org, vote Jim Groovester for my prior reasons.

I don't know what these prior reasons are. You've accused me and I don't know what for. Was it because I opposed an Org policy lynch? That's right, I think it was. I still stand by my opposition to it.

And finally,

I think Jokerman-EXE is scum. His posts all bear the smell of cautious scum. Too careful to accuse anyone outright, being wishy washy about who he suspects. I could give a more detailed analysis of my suspicions but that's the general impression I get.

So, I'm going to Object to an Extension because all of you apparently wanted to extend because there was a tie. Tada! Tie broken.

Also, Pandarsenic is probably scum. I wish I could put my finger on why I think this is the case. He's posted frequently, but it doesn't seem like he's really done all that much. He's accused Org, accused me, been obstinate about his vote on Org, then gone back to accusing me, and that's pretty much it. I think he'd be doing more if he were town instead of latching onto Org and myself.

Also, webadict is full of shit, being deliberately evasive about answering simple questions, being a general tool, but that's nothing new. If he continues to do this, well, nobody will be able listen to what he has to say, because he was being deliberately evasive and didn't bother to put out his suspicions for everybody to look at.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Mephansteras on April 19, 2010, 04:35:16 pm

The Whiteboard
forsaken1111: Jokerman-EXE, Org, Solifuge
Jim Groovester: Pandarsenic
Jokerman-EXE: Jim Groovester, Mr.Person, ToonyMan
Kashyyk: Leafsnail
Pandarsenic: Vector
RedWarrior0: JanusTwoface, webadict
webadict: forsaken1111

---

Day currently ends in ~2.5 hours. We have 1 net vote for an extension (2 for, 1 against)

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 19, 2010, 04:37:59 pm

Oh, oops. I was looking at the last votecount and missed Leafsnail unvoting Jokerman-EXE. So I guess I didn't break the tie.

In that case, I'll Remove my Extension Objection.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Mephansteras on April 19, 2010, 04:40:21 pm

We have two votes for an Extension. Two more would be needed to Extend the day to ~5pm Pacific Tuesday.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Vector on April 19, 2010, 04:43:26 pm

Extension

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 19, 2010, 04:48:21 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 19, 2010, 04:37:59 pm

Oh, oops. I was looking at the last votecount and missed Leafsnail unvoting Jokerman-EXE. So I guess I didn't break the tie.

In that case, I'll Remove my Extension Objection.

So you voted to 'break the tie' and now that you realize that your vote created a tie situation you don't change it?

You removed your objection to the extension but did not vote for one. Do you want a tie situation?

For my part, I'll throw in for an extension.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Mephansteras on April 19, 2010, 04:55:11 pm

Day is now extended to ~5pm Pacific Tuesday.

There will be no further Extensions.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 19, 2010, 05:05:12 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 19, 2010, 04:22:57 pm

I think Jokerman-EXE is scum. His posts all bear the smell of cautious scum. Too careful to accuse anyone outright, being wishy washy about who he suspects. I could give a more detailed analysis of my suspicions but that's the general impression I get.

*goes back*

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 19, 2010, 05:54:11 am

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 19, 2010, 01:06:46 am

However, something stuck out to me much MUCH more:

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 02:45:40 pm

If you're trying to cast suspicion on me, save your breath. Just answer the damn question.

Seriously? This is like...come on. What a feeble way to wrap up your attack. "Here's my evidence against you! It's so good, you can't even think about accusing me!" Honestly, it juts made me more suspicious of you, forsaken. What was your reasoning here? Why shouldn't he try to cast suspicion on you, if that's the point of the game?

Good job, you siezed upon the least important part of the post. I said that because I was already majority voted, so he may as well save his breath.

See I'm not worried about living, I am worried about exposing scum. Day will end, and you will see that I was Town. I hope then you will remember Web's actions here and not be fooled by his sudden backpedaling.

Whoa, that looks like an accusation there.

In response to forsaken (I totally didn't even see this post until I went back to read the thread), I'd like to point out that while you did answer the question I was asking, you were incredibly defensive about it. At the same time, I feel that you're being genuine about what you're saying, and coupled with the fact that you actually answered the question, I'll unvote you for now.

In rereading the thread, I've found that Pandarsenic has done several scummy things.

First, he's jumped on Jim and stayed there. While not scummy in itself, the majority of his posts since the initial accusation have been active lurks/prods for Jim to come back, and that seems suspicious to me. Also:

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 17, 2010, 02:54:46 pm

I know that was half-assed, thus the "for now." You've stated two people you claim are suspicious and I want to deal with Jim, but you're not off the hook. I just want to deal with someone other than you for now because god knows I don't have the patience to keep this up forever. That's your whole strategy as scum though, so... ugh.

Still waiting for the rest of this.

Does that satisfy you, Groovestar?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 19, 2010, 05:05:40 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 19, 2010, 04:22:57 pm

I think Jokerman-EXE is scum. His posts all bear the smell of cautious scum. Too careful to accuse anyone outright, being wishy washy about who he suspects. I could give a more detailed analysis of my suspicions but that's the general impression I get.

*goes back*

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 19, 2010, 05:54:11 am

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 19, 2010, 01:06:46 am

However, something stuck out to me much MUCH more:

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 18, 2010, 02:45:40 pm

If you're trying to cast suspicion on me, save your breath. Just answer the damn question.

Seriously? This is like...come on. What a feeble way to wrap up your attack. "Here's my evidence against you! It's so good, you can't even think about accusing me!" Honestly, it juts made me more suspicious of you, forsaken. What was your reasoning here? Why shouldn't he try to cast suspicion on you, if that's the point of the game?

Good job, you siezed upon the least important part of the post. I said that because I was already majority voted, so he may as well save his breath.

See I'm not worried about living, I am worried about exposing scum. Day will end, and you will see that I was Town. I hope then you will remember Web's actions here and not be fooled by his sudden backpedaling.

Whoa, that looks like an accusation there.

In response to forsaken (I totally didn't even see this post until I went back to read the thread), I'd like to point out that while you did answer the question I was asking, you were incredibly defensive about it. At the same time, I feel that you're being genuine about what you're saying, and coupled with the fact that you actually answered the question, I'll unvote you for now.

In rereading the thread, I've found that Pandarsenic has done several scummy things.

First, he's jumped on Jim and stayed there. While not scummy in itself, the majority of his posts since the initial accusation have been active lurks/prods for Jim to come back, and that seems suspicious to me. Also:

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 17, 2010, 02:54:46 pm

I know that was half-assed, thus the "for now." You've stated two people you claim are suspicious and I want to deal with Jim, but you're not off the hook. I just want to deal with someone other than you for now because god knows I don't have the patience to keep this up forever. That's your whole strategy as scum though, so... ugh.

Still waiting for the rest of this.

Does that satisfy you, Groovestar?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 19, 2010, 05:14:13 pm

Forums mess up on you? Its been glitching on me all day.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Leafsnail on April 19, 2010, 05:20:15 pm

Actually, since Kashyyk is being replaced and is not lurking, I'll unvote, and revote Jokerman.

His most recent post isn't so much a defence as an attempt to appease Jim at the last minute.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 19, 2010, 05:23:38 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 19, 2010, 05:05:40 pm

Does that satisfy you, Groovestar?

No. Not especially.

First, you backpedal off your vote on forsaken1111, and then you... what? Pander to my suspicions? (More like Pandar to my suspicions. Get it? Get it?)

That doesn't really convince me that you're not scum. Sorry, vote stays.

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 19, 2010, 04:48:21 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 19, 2010, 04:37:59 pm

Oh, oops. I was looking at the last votecount and missed Leafsnail unvoting Jokerman-EXE. So I guess I didn't break the tie.

In that case, I'll Remove my Extension Objection.

So you voted to 'break the tie' and now that you realize that your vote created a tie situation you don't change it?

You removed your objection to the extension but did not vote for one. Do you want a tie situation?

For my part, I'll throw in for an extension.

I did not vote to break the tie. I voted for who I thought was scum.

Because I have my vote on who I thought was scum, I have no reason to change my vote even if I did inadvertently create a tie situation.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 05:33:45 pm

Jim, I'm tempted to keep my vote on you for the "Pandar to my suspicions joke" but I appreciate bad puns and OMGUS votes like the one you just cast, good job there by the way, and now that you're playing, which is what the Lynch All Lurkers (and Activelurkers) policy is meant to enforce...

Unvote Jim Groovester, vote RedWarrior0 because fuck RedWarrior0's refusal to be useful. He's figured out he can't just lurk to victory as scum so he's posting just enough that we remember him posting but I don't recall him posting anything useful.

THIS IS MAFIA. IF YOU'RE NOT BEING USEFUL I'LL VOTE YOU BECAUSE WE ARE NOT.

ALLOWING.

LURKERS.

TO RUIN.

THIS.

GAME.

That is all.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 19, 2010, 05:37:37 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 05:33:45 pm

Jim, I'm tempted to keep my vote on you for the "Pandar to my suspicions joke" but I appreciate bad puns and OMGUS votes like the one you just cast, good job there by the way, and now that you're playing, which is what the Lynch All Lurkers (and Activelurkers) policy is meant to enforce...

OMGUS vote? I don't recall casting one of those.

I believe all I've done is OMGFOSed you.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 05:42:08 pm

Ah, you're right. Apologies, I had your FoS confused with Jokerman-EXE's hi-I'm-buddying-Jim vote for me because of his double post.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 19, 2010, 05:50:06 pm

Okay, I just went through 29 pages and didn't find a single post by RedWarrior0 which contained anything that I would consider substantial. I now agree with Pandar, especially in light of Red's recent active lurking and low post count.

I am going to unvote and vote RedWarrior0 at this point. I just hope that he is scum active lurking, as he seems to be, rather than a townie who is just too busy to play.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 19, 2010, 06:14:13 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 19, 2010, 05:14:13 pm

Forums mess up on you? Its been glitching on me all day.

Ugh, yeah. They've been giving me Hell since Friday.

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 19, 2010, 05:20:15 pm

Actually, since Kashyyk is being replaced and is not lurking, I'll unvote, and revote Jokerman.

His most recent post isn't so much a defence as an attempt to appease Jim at the last minute.

No, it's me voicing a goddam suspicion. You know, doing the thing that was asked of me. That's how I thought the game worked.

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 19, 2010, 05:23:38 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 19, 2010, 05:05:40 pm

Does that satisfy you, Groovestar?

No. Not especially.

First, you backpedal off your vote on forsaken1111, and then you... what? Pander to my suspicions? (More like Pandar to my suspicions. Get it? Get it?)

I explained my reasoning for moving my vote. If you can't read the post enough to realize that, then there's no point in trying to sway you because you apparently won't get it.

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 05:33:45 pm

Jim, I'm tempted to keep my vote on you for the "Pandar to my suspicions joke" but I appreciate bad puns and OMGUS votes like the one you just cast, good job there by the way, and now that you're playing, which is what the Lynch All Lurkers (and Activelurkers) policy is meant to enforce...

Nice buddying, scum.

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 05:42:08 pm

Ah, you're right. Apologies, I had your FoS confused with Jokerman-EXE's hi-I'm-buddying-Jim vote for me because of his double post.

How the fuck am I buddying him? He's voting for me, dude. I'm accusing you because, you know, you're scum and you act like, that's right, scum. By the way, read my double post, because I'm still waiting for the continuation of your accusation of Org/the switch over to Jim.

In fact, in addition to that, what's your current scumlist?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: ToonyMan on April 19, 2010, 06:17:22 pm

Pointing the finger at Forsaken for being stupid with Jim's analyze post.

Most notably, this quote,

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 19, 2010, 04:48:21 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 19, 2010, 04:37:59 pm

Oh, oops. I was looking at the last votecount and missed Leafsnail unvoting Jokerman-EXE. So I guess I didn't break the tie.

In that case, I'll Remove my Extension Objection.

So you voted to 'break the tie' and now that you realize that your vote created a tie situation you don't change it?

You removed your objection to the extension but did not vote for one. Do you want a tie situation?

For my part, I'll throw in for an extension.

Awfully freakin jumpy, after removing his extension objection you attack him for trying to cause a tie?  That makes 0 sense.

FAKE-EDIT:  Looks like Jim responded to this, I'm making my mark anyway.

You guys do know lynching lurkers is a good way to avoid scum-hunting right?
(that's bad thing)

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Mr.Person on April 19, 2010, 06:25:41 pm

Lynching lurkers is better than having them.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 06:26:35 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 19, 2010, 06:14:13 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 19, 2010, 05:14:13 pm

Forums mess up on you? Its been glitching on me all day.

Ugh, yeah. They've been giving me Hell since Friday.

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 19, 2010, 05:20:15 pm

Actually, since Kashyyk is being replaced and is not lurking, I'll unvote, and revote Jokerman.

His most recent post isn't so much a defence as an attempt to appease Jim at the last minute.

No, it's me voicing a goddam suspicion. You know, doing the thing that was asked of me. That's how I thought the game worked.

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 19, 2010, 05:23:38 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 19, 2010, 05:05:40 pm

Does that satisfy you, Groovestar?

No. Not especially.

First, you backpedal off your vote on forsaken1111, and then you... what? Pander to my suspicions? (More like Pandar to my suspicions. Get it? Get it?)

I explained my reasoning for moving my vote. If you can't read the post enough to realize that, then there's no point in trying to sway you because you apparently won't get it.

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 05:33:45 pm

Jim, I'm tempted to keep my vote on you for the "Pandar to my suspicions joke" but I appreciate bad puns and OMGUS votes like the one you just cast, good job there by the way, and now that you're playing, which is what the Lynch All Lurkers (and Activelurkers) policy is meant to enforce...

Nice buddying, scum.

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 05:42:08 pm

Ah, you're right. Apologies, I had your FoS confused with Jokerman-EXE's hi-I'm-buddying-Jim vote for me because of his double post.

How the fuck am I buddying him? He's voting for me, dude. I'm accusing you because, you know, you're scum and you act like, that's right, scum. By the way, read my double post, because I'm still waiting for the continuation of your accusation of Org/the switch over to Jim.

In fact, in addition to that, what's your current scumlist?

Buddying because you're voting someone who was voting for him and that he FoS'd.

And I don't see how appreciating bad puns is buddying, but okay.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: webadict on April 19, 2010, 06:38:31 pm

Vig can shoot Panda tonight.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 19, 2010, 06:41:22 pm

If there is one. How do you know/ why do you think there is webadict? Ignoring lurk accusations for the moment because there isn't much defense against them.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Mr.Person on April 19, 2010, 06:42:58 pm

@RedWarrior: That's rolefishing.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 06:48:35 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 19, 2010, 06:38:31 pm

Vig can shoot Panda tonight.

That would be wasteful.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: webadict on April 19, 2010, 06:53:45 pm

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 19, 2010, 06:41:22 pm

If there is one. How do you know/ why do you think there is webadict? Ignoring lurk accusations for the moment because there isn't much defense against them.

Why are you rolefishing?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 07:00:23 pm

WUBA WUBA WUBA is exterminator with intel.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: webadict on April 19, 2010, 07:05:54 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 07:00:23 pm

WUBA WUBA WUBA is exterminator with intel.

Rooooooolefishing.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 07:08:36 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 19, 2010, 07:05:54 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 07:00:23 pm

WUBA WUBA WUBA is exterminator with intel.

Rooooooolefishing.

You're a joke.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: webadict on April 19, 2010, 07:11:00 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 07:08:36 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 19, 2010, 07:05:54 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 07:00:23 pm

WUBA WUBA WUBA is exterminator with intel.

Rooooooolefishing.

You're a joke.

At least I'm funny.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 07:12:39 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 19, 2010, 07:11:00 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 07:08:36 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 19, 2010, 07:05:54 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 07:00:23 pm

WUBA WUBA WUBA is exterminator with intel.

Rooooooolefishing.

You're a joke.

At least I'm funny.

Not really.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: webadict on April 19, 2010, 07:22:47 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 07:12:39 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 19, 2010, 07:11:00 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 07:08:36 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 19, 2010, 07:05:54 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 07:00:23 pm

WUBA WUBA WUBA is exterminator with intel.

Rooooooolefishing.

You're a joke.

At least I'm funny.

Not really.

Oh really? I laughed a little, so I fail to see how that's true.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 07:30:28 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 19, 2010, 07:22:47 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 07:12:39 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 19, 2010, 07:11:00 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 07:08:36 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 19, 2010, 07:05:54 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 07:00:23 pm

WUBA WUBA WUBA is exterminator with intel.

Rooooooolefishing.

You're a joke.

At least I'm funny.

Not really.

Oh really? I laughed a little, so I fail to see how that's true.

You're so pathetic even you laugh at you?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: webadict on April 19, 2010, 07:31:59 pm

Derailing aside, why'd you assume that I knew there was a Vigilante?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Org on April 19, 2010, 07:32:29 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 07:30:28 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 19, 2010, 07:22:47 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 07:12:39 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 19, 2010, 07:11:00 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 07:08:36 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 19, 2010, 07:05:54 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 07:00:23 pm

WUBA WUBA WUBA is exterminator with intel.

Rooooooolefishing.

You're a joke.

At least I'm funny.

Not really.

Oh really? I laughed a little, so I fail to see how that's true.

You're so pathetic even you laugh at you?

Quote pyramid!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 07:42:59 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 19, 2010, 07:31:59 pm

Derailing aside, why'd you assume that I knew there was a Vigilante?

Maybe he's given up and admitted he's going to get launched and as such is just trying to be disruptive before dying?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: webadict on April 19, 2010, 08:04:55 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 07:42:59 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 19, 2010, 07:31:59 pm

Derailing aside, why'd you assume that I knew there was a Vigilante?

Maybe he's given up and admitted he's going to get launched and as such is just trying to be disruptive before dying?

I would assume such and forcing out a role would be a noble death for scum.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 08:09:28 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 19, 2010, 08:04:55 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 07:42:59 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 19, 2010, 07:31:59 pm

Derailing aside, why'd you assume that I knew there was a Vigilante?

Maybe he's given up and admitted he's going to get launched and as such is just trying to be disruptive before dying?

I would assume such and forcing out a role would be a noble death for scum.

REDWARRIOR0, WE SALUTE LYNCH YOU!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 19, 2010, 08:44:06 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 19, 2010, 06:38:31 pm

Vig can shoot Panda tonight.

this.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 08:46:14 pm

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 19, 2010, 08:44:06 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 19, 2010, 06:38:31 pm

Vig can shoot Panda tonight.

this.

THIS SOUNDS LIKE GOOD ADVICE FROM A RELIABLE INDIVIDUAL

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 08:46:52 pm

EBWOP: also, is that a formal accusation or a blind OMGUS, RedWarrior0?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 19, 2010, 08:47:57 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 19, 2010, 07:31:59 pm

Derailing aside, why'd you assume that I knew there was a Vigilante?

in response,

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 19, 2010, 08:44:06 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 19, 2010, 06:38:31 pm

Vig can shoot Panda tonight.

this.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 08:49:36 pm

Ah.

But RedWarrior0, of whom are you suspicious then?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 19, 2010, 08:53:25 pm

Web, for seeming to know that a vig exists to kill you tonight.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 08:56:58 pm

Day Shortening if RedWarrior0 has majority.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: webadict on April 19, 2010, 09:48:13 pm

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 19, 2010, 08:53:25 pm

Web, for seeming to know that a vig exists to kill you tonight.

That makes no sense at all, since scum can't know anything like that. Except the Exterminator, who would get something else instead.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 19, 2010, 09:59:42 pm

Exhibit A: scumvig
Exhibit B: alien with intel
Exhibit C: you are vig

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Org on April 19, 2010, 10:01:31 pm

Shouldnt c be townvig?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Mr.Person on April 19, 2010, 10:02:40 pm

Unvote, vote RedWarrior. Continue rolefishing. Go ahead, see how far that gets you.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 19, 2010, 10:04:52 pm

I'm simply stating that web's comment about a vigkill seemed somewhat fishy to me.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: webadict on April 19, 2010, 10:16:53 pm

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 19, 2010, 10:04:52 pm

I'm simply stating that web's comment about a vigkill seemed somewhat fishy to me.

In what universe is that fishy? You immediately start rolefishing for answers. I mean, I would've accepted "Telling the PRs what to do," since there's a possibility of a PWV, but you jumped straight to "He's a Vig/EA/ScumVig" (ScumVig? Really? REALLY?!)

It's just nonsensical, plus you haven't contributed like you said you would, and then you're able to contribute nothing once you're able to post.

Ergo, scum.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 10:42:09 pm

I'm tempted to say we can confirm Wuba as town because of RedWarrior0's scumslip in A/B/C possibilities.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Vector on April 19, 2010, 11:26:39 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 10:42:09 pm

I'm tempted to say we can confirm Wuba as town because of RedWarrior0's scumslip in A/B/C possibilities.

Wait, can you explain?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 11:38:02 pm

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 19, 2010, 09:59:42 pm

Exhibit A: scumvig
Exhibit B: alien with intel
Exhibit C: you are vig

RedWarrior0 is obvscum

He makes a ridiculous claim, a silly claim, and considers the possibility that Web is townvig, which is what he believes or what he's fishing for. He didn't say ANY townvig. He named Wuba specifically. He seems to consider "Wubavig" synonymous with "townievig"

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Vector on April 20, 2010, 12:44:11 am

Ahhh, now I understand.  Fair enough.  RedWarrior0.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 20, 2010, 01:06:14 pm

In fact I vote we go ahead and end the day if red is majority. Its pretty clear now that he is scum.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Mephansteras on April 20, 2010, 01:27:33 pm

The Whiteboard
forsaken1111: Org, Solifuge
Jokerman-EXE: Jim Groovester, Leafsnail, ToonyMan
Pandarsenic: Jokerman-EXE
RedWarrior0: forsaken1111, JanusTwoface, Mr.Person, Pandarsenic, Vector, webadict

---

Two votes for a day shortening. Need two more to actually shorten the day.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 20, 2010, 01:30:50 pm

I don't fully understand. Why are we shortening?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 20, 2010, 01:31:51 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 20, 2010, 01:30:50 pm

I don't fully understand. Why are we shortening?

Because red has a vast majority of votes and its unlikely to change, so we may as well go ahead and end the day to get on with the game.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 20, 2010, 01:33:16 pm

Doesn't the day end at 5 anyway? If so, I'll shorten as well, I'd like to move on.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: ToonyMan on April 20, 2010, 01:34:34 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 20, 2010, 01:33:16 pm

Doesn't the day end at 5 anyway? If so, I'll shorten as well, I'd like to move on.

...And save your ass.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 20, 2010, 01:38:25 pm

Thats the point. Day ends in 4.5 hours anyway, we may as well end it now.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Mr.Person on April 20, 2010, 02:04:58 pm

In the grand scheme of things, do those 4 hours matter? Why yes, yes they do. I've taken notice of the fact that you guys have decided to shorten rather than actually ask more questions. Especially you, Pand.

Jokerman, Forsaken, and Pand: Who else is scum?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 20, 2010, 02:15:01 pm

Oh yay.  The forums are back.  And all shiny looking! Or at least different.  I like the new smileys.  ;D

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 19, 2010, 06:17:22 pm

You guys do know lynching lurkers is a good way to avoid scum-hunting right?
(that's bad thing)

Personally, I'd be happy with forced replacement / mod killing (fondly remembering Toon Mafia 5, won on a mod kill), but that's not going to help so lynches are what's left.  Eventually one would hope that they'd either stop lurking or stop playing.  And with the number of lurkers we still have, we can almost guarantee that at least one is scum, so start with the scummiest lurker until we have more to go off tomorrow.

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 19, 2010, 09:59:42 pm

Exhibit A: scumvig
Exhibit B: alien with intel
Exhibit C: you are vig

What does this even mean?  That we have one of each?  That webadict is one of them?  It's badly phrased at best.  Also, I've never seen nor never expect to see a dopp Vig.  It's just too powerful, the town would have to be crazy powerful to counter it.

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 11:38:02 pm

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 19, 2010, 09:59:42 pm

Exhibit A: scumvig
Exhibit B: alien with intel
Exhibit C: you are vig

RedWarrior0 is obvscum

He makes a ridiculous claim, a silly claim, and considers the possibility that Web is townvig, which is what he believes or what he's fishing for. He didn't say ANY townvig. He named Wuba specifically. He seems to consider "Wubavig" synonymous with "townievig"

RedWarrior is scummy.  I understand that part, but I'm not sure if I follow the rest.  Is it just because RedWarrior is picking on Webadict specifically or something more than that?

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 20, 2010, 01:38:25 pm

Thats the point. Day ends in 4.5 hours anyway, we may as well end it now.

On the other hand, the day ends in 4.5 hours (less now) anyways, so why would we push to shorten it?  I don't think it will actually make tomorrow morning start earlier although I guess it would give those with night actions more time.

Really it looks more like this:

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 20, 2010, 01:34:34 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 20, 2010, 01:33:16 pm

Doesn't the day end at 5 anyway? If so, I'll shorten as well, I'd like to move on.

...And save your ass.

For both forsaken and Jokerman-EXE.  More so for Jokerman with 1 more vote though.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Leafsnail on April 20, 2010, 02:42:12 pm

Jokerman is still very obvious scum.  He's submitting a day shortening request when the person he's voting for isn't even getting lynched, for chrissake...

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 20, 2010, 03:15:58 pm

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 20, 2010, 02:15:01 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 20, 2010, 01:38:25 pm

Thats the point. Day ends in 4.5 hours anyway, we may as well end it now.

On the other hand, the day ends in 4.5 hours (less now) anyways, so why would we push to shorten it?  I don't think it will actually make tomorrow morning start earlier although I guess it would give those with night actions more time.

Really it looks more like this:

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 20, 2010, 01:34:34 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 20, 2010, 01:33:16 pm

Doesn't the day end at 5 anyway? If so, I'll shorten as well, I'd like to move on.

...And save your ass.

For both forsaken and Jokerman-EXE.  More so for Jokerman with 1 more vote though.

My ass wasn't in danger. If all I wanted to do was 'save my ass' I would have objected to the extension and swapped my vote to break the tie.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 20, 2010, 03:18:27 pm

Started WoT but may have virus issues. I notice how everyone hopped on the wagon once I started receiving votes, though.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 20, 2010, 03:30:59 pm

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 20, 2010, 03:18:27 pm

Started WoT but may have virus issues. I notice how everyone hopped on the wagon once I started receiving votes, though.

Pffffft. Take your WIFOM and shove it.

Unvote Jokerman-EXE. RedWarrior0.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Org on April 20, 2010, 03:37:36 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 20, 2010, 03:30:59 pm

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 20, 2010, 03:18:27 pm

Started WoT but may have virus issues. I notice how everyone hopped on the wagon once I started receiving votes, though.

Pffffft. Take your WIFOM and shove it.

Unvote Jokerman-EXE. RedWarrior0.

What is WoT?
And how is it Wifom?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 20, 2010, 03:40:46 pm

WoT = Wall of Text.

It's WIFOM because RedWarrior0 is suggesting that the scum (or whoever) joined on the bandwagon only after votes started to materialize onto him. He therefore implicitly suggests that he is not scum. Thus, the WIFOM.

A very feeble attempt at WIFOM, at best.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Org on April 20, 2010, 03:43:49 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 20, 2010, 03:40:46 pm

WoT = Wall of Text.

It's WIFOM because RedWarrior0 is suggesting that the scum (or whoever) joined on the bandwagon only after votes started to materialize onto him. He therefore implicitly suggests that he is not scum. Thus, the WIFOM.

A very feeble attempt at WIFOM, at best.

Yeah....thats Wifom

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Mr.Person on April 20, 2010, 03:47:18 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 20, 2010, 03:40:46 pm

WoT = Wall of Text.

It's WIFOM because RedWarrior0 is suggesting that the scum (or whoever) joined on the bandwagon only after votes started to materialize onto him. He therefore implicitly suggests that he is not scum. Thus, the WIFOM.

A very feeble attempt at WIFOM, at best.

If you don't know what WIFOM is, don't run around saying everything is WIFOM.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Org on April 20, 2010, 03:49:04 pm

Quote from: Mr.Person on April 20, 2010, 03:47:18 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 20, 2010, 03:40:46 pm

WoT = Wall of Text.

It's WIFOM because RedWarrior0 is suggesting that the scum (or whoever) joined on the bandwagon only after votes started to materialize onto him. He therefore implicitly suggests that he is not scum. Thus, the WIFOM.

A very feeble attempt at WIFOM, at best.

If you don't know what WIFOM is, don't run around saying everything is WIFOM.

He is implying that those who joined up are scum.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Mr.Person on April 20, 2010, 03:58:09 pm

That's very true, but it's not WIFOM on its own.

Now if he is indeed scum, then yes, it's WIFOM where exactly the scum jumped in on the wagon, or even if they jumped in at all. And yes, pointing it out in the manner he did worries me. A lot.
On the other hand, if he's not scum, there's no WIFOM.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: webadict on April 20, 2010, 04:27:07 pm

Quote from: RedWarrior0 on April 20, 2010, 03:18:27 pm

Started WoT but may have virus issues. I notice how everyone hopped on the wagon once I started receiving votes, though.

So... you started getting bandwagoned because people voted you = You're being bandwagoned because you're being bandwagoned.

How about the fact that you still haven't contributed. I mean, you're able to say this, but not able to sum up everything that's happened?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 20, 2010, 05:19:30 pm

Quote from: Mr.Person on April 20, 2010, 03:47:18 pm

If you don't know what WIFOM is, don't run around saying everything is WIFOM.

Don't tell me what to do.

Especially when you're doing something as obnoxious as arguing the proper use of a game jargon acronym, for crying out loud.

This ain't English Lit class.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Mr.Person on April 20, 2010, 05:54:59 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 20, 2010, 05:19:30 pm

Don't tell me what to do.

Especially when you're doing something as obnoxious as arguing the proper use of a game jargon acronym, for crying out loud.

This ain't English Lit class.

This isn't rocket science: If you don't know the meaning of a word, don't use it. It makes you hard to understand, which is scummy. More importantly, it makes you sound like an idiot.

I also find it strange you didn't dispute the fact you don't know what WIFOM is. Interesting.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: webadict on April 20, 2010, 06:00:14 pm

End the Day.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Org on April 20, 2010, 06:01:21 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 20, 2010, 06:00:14 pm

End the Day.

eh, Might as well.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 20, 2010, 06:08:36 pm

Quote from: Mr.Person on April 20, 2010, 05:54:59 pm

This isn't rocket science: If you don't know the meaning of a word, don't use it. It makes you hard to understand, which is scummy. More importantly, it makes you sound like an idiot.

I also find it strange you didn't dispute the fact you don't know what WIFOM is. Interesting.

Snobbery in the proper use of game terminology looks incredibly silly. Don't you have better things to get your panties in a twist than whether or not I used a game term that is rarely used in its strictest and most formal sense correctly?

If you don't, well, I feel sorry that you don't have more important concerns.

Also, End the Day. I want to have the last word in this stupid fucking argument.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: webadict on April 20, 2010, 06:11:00 pm

This is srs, gaiz.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 20, 2010, 06:11:55 pm

Yep, Mafia is serious business.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Org on April 20, 2010, 06:13:45 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 20, 2010, 06:11:55 pm

Yep, Mafia is serious business.

SRSLY

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 20, 2010, 06:19:46 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 20, 2010, 06:11:00 pm

This is srs, gaiz.

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 20, 2010, 06:11:55 pm

Yep, Mafia is serious business.

Quote from: Org on April 20, 2010, 06:13:45 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 20, 2010, 06:11:55 pm

Yep, Mafia is serious business.

SRSLY

Don't you understand the importance of what's at stake here? Somebody could be misusing informally developed game jargon incorrectly and not even know it!

I will not brook any sarcasm from the peanut gallery!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Org on April 20, 2010, 06:22:16 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 20, 2010, 06:19:46 pm

Quote from: webadict on April 20, 2010, 06:11:00 pm

This is srs, gaiz.

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 20, 2010, 06:11:55 pm

Yep, Mafia is serious business.

Quote from: Org on April 20, 2010, 06:13:45 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 20, 2010, 06:11:55 pm

Yep, Mafia is serious business.

SRSLY

Don't you understand the importance of what's at stake here? Somebody could be misusing informally developed game jargon incorrectly and not even know it!

I will not brook any sarcasm from the peanut gallery!

SRSLY

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 20, 2010, 06:34:45 pm

Quote from: Mr.Person on April 20, 2010, 02:04:58 pm

In the grand scheme of things, do those 4 hours matter? Why yes, yes they do. I've taken notice of the fact that you guys have decided to shorten rather than actually ask more questions. Especially you, Pand.

Jokerman, Forsaken, and Pand: Who else is scum?

Mr.Person, Vector, and MAYBE JanusTwoFace (and myself, but we're asking whom I consider likely to be scum) are in a particularly high-risk bracket for "Bussing the hopeless partner." Jokerman-EXE is a popular one but I haven't been actually, er. Watching his posts enough to determine whether I think he is or not.

Quote from: Mr.Person on April 20, 2010, 05:54:59 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 20, 2010, 05:19:30 pm

Don't tell me what to do.

Especially when you're doing something as obnoxious as arguing the proper use of a game jargon acronym, for crying out loud.

This ain't English Lit class.

This isn't rocket science: If you don't know the meaning of a word, don't use it. It makes you hard to understand, which is scummy. More importantly, it makes you sound like an idiot.

I also find it strange you didn't dispute the fact you don't know what WIFOM is. Interesting.

Is that a fucking joke?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 1 - 1 Replacement Requested
Post by: Mephansteras on April 20, 2010, 06:46:54 pm

The Whiteboard
forsaken1111: Org, Solifuge
Jokerman-EXE: Leafsnail, ToonyMan
Pandarsenic: Jokerman-EXE
RedWarrior0: forsaken1111, JanusTwoface, Jim Groovester, Mr.Person, Pandarsenic, Vector, webadict


  After a lot of talking and arguing and insults you finally manage to settle on who to lynch. RedWarrior0 backs up as Jim Groovester picks up an old handgun and points it at him. "Well, monster, game's up." he smirks.

  "You can't do this!" Screams RedWarrior0. "You can't just kill someone! This is barbaric! It's wrong! It's-" His brains flying out the back of his head silences him, and the body slumps to the ground.

  "It's what had to be done." says Jim, quietly.

  You all watch the body as it slow transforms. The fingers elongate into claws and what is left of his features melt away into a smooth, featureless face. It seems you were right! You search through his belongings and find a business card of his. It seems he was not only a doppelganger, but also a Medium. Well, he can talk to the dead face to face now, you suppose.

  Tired and exhausted you head off to your bungalows to try and catch a few hours of sleep before the dawn.

---

Day 1 is over! Night 1 has now started. Please send in your night actions.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Night 1 - Replacement Found
Post by: Mephansteras on April 22, 2010, 03:59:29 pm

  Dawn comes and you reconvene at the main hotel building. Mr.Person and webadict do not join you, however, and eventually you all decide that you should go check to see what happened.

  At Mr.Person's hut you find the door locked, but a window stands open. A brave soul clambers inside and unlocks the door. As you search the room you find a clear trail of blood leading from the bed to the window. It is obvious that he was murdered in his bed and the body removed. A little more searching reveals books on Enchantment and enhancing one's psychic powers. Strange. You knew he was a bit kooky, perhaps this was the cause. In any case, it looks like he's become the latest victim of the monsters.

  Heading over to webadict's bungalow quickly shows you why he never showed up. His bungalow, well, is just gone. Where it stood is a charred circle of ash and smoky glass. You're not sure what happened, exactly, but it's obvious that nothing could have survived the blast! Back at the hotel you do a bit of digging around, but it seems that there was nothing interesting about him to be found. Just a simple townsperson caught up in this nightmare, you suppose.

---

Day 2 has started. It will go until ~5pm Pacific Monday

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: webadict on April 22, 2010, 04:02:17 pm

... Did I just get Plasma Bomb'd? DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Vector on April 22, 2010, 04:04:16 pm

Pandarsenic.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 22, 2010, 04:08:49 pm

Vector

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Leafsnail on April 22, 2010, 04:10:52 pm

...Woah.  Well, looks like the Exty's wasted most of his power.  Vector/ Org - we can talk in this game.

Jokerman-EXE is still scum.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 22, 2010, 04:13:21 pm

Oh man.  Webadict was not only Vanilla Townie but got blown to hell as well.  The unusual thing is that it looks like a Plasma Bomb which would have killed anyone targeting Webadict as well.  Have we finally learned our collective lesson and stopped targeting him night 0 (other than our otherworldly friend of course)?

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 20, 2010, 06:08:36 pm

Also, End the Day. I want to have the last word in this stupid fucking argument.

I see why you might be angry about the argument, it was rather silly. But did it really call for a day shortening?  Specifically the fifth vote for one when only four where necessary?

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 04:04:16 pm

Pandarsenic.

Care to elaborate?  You've been a bit quieter than normal this game (with reason granted), but this seems short even for that.

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 04:08:49 pm

Vector

Org.  And I'll even give a reason:  It takes about a minute (if that) to type a sentence or two why you are voting someone.  Please do so.  This is more normal for you than Vector but that doesn't mean it's acceptable.  Without reasoning you leave all of us to come up with why we think you're voting them.  Remember, scum can lynch anyone.  Town has to lynch scum.

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 22, 2010, 04:10:52 pm

Jokerman-EXE is still scum.

No better than Vector or Org.  Could you restate in a sentence or two why?  It's a new day after all.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: ToonyMan on April 22, 2010, 04:16:07 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 04:04:16 pm

Pandarsenic.

Post restriction?  I don't remember those.

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 22, 2010, 04:10:52 pm

...Woah.  Well, looks like the Exty's wasted most of his power.  Vector/ Org - we can talk in this game.

Jokerman-EXE is still scum.

Can't agree more with the Jokerman lynch.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: ToonyMan on April 22, 2010, 04:21:42 pm

Oh right, that would be because of passivity, highly defensive when pushed and general laziness to do anything.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Vector on April 22, 2010, 04:22:40 pm

I'm voting him because I have 4 picks for exterminator, and he's highest on the list.  I'll be looking back through the thread soon to do another little examination.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Solifuge on April 22, 2010, 04:27:42 pm

I'm mostly interested in people who switched from their earlier arguments in order to vote RedWarrior0 after the dogpile began. I'm suspecting bussing, particularly from my dear friend forsaken1111.

Yesterday's votes on RedWarrior0: forsaken1111, JanusTwoface, Jim Groovester, Pandarsenic, Vector

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:01:35 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 04:22:40 pm

I'm voting him because I have 4 picks for exterminator, and he's highest on the list.  I'll be looking back through the thread soon to do another little examination.

Im voting you for voting pandar as exterminator.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Vector on April 22, 2010, 05:03:54 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:01:35 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 04:22:40 pm

I'm voting him because I have 4 picks for exterminator, and he's highest on the list.  I'll be looking back through the thread soon to do another little examination.

Im voting you for voting pandar as exterminator.

Illogical.  Captain.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:05:22 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 05:03:54 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:01:35 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 04:22:40 pm

I'm voting him because I have 4 picks for exterminator, and he's highest on the list.  I'll be looking back through the thread soon to do another little examination.

Im voting you for voting pandar as exterminator.

Illogical.  Captain.

No. It is logical for the exterminator to vote for a "exterminator".

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Vector on April 22, 2010, 05:07:06 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:05:22 pm

No. It is logical for the exterminator to vote for a "exterminator".

... Whatever.  If you have some real arguments, come hit me with them.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:07:45 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 05:07:06 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:05:22 pm

No. It is logical for the exterminator to vote for a "exterminator".

... Whatever.  If you have some real arguments, come hit me with them.

All of yours are conjecture.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Vector on April 22, 2010, 05:10:36 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:07:45 pm

All of yours are conjecture.

I get the distinct feeling that you're trying to block my scumhunting attempts.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 22, 2010, 05:11:33 pm

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 22, 2010, 04:13:21 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 20, 2010, 06:08:36 pm

Also, End the Day. I want to have the last word in this stupid fucking argument.

I see why you might be angry about the argument, it was rather silly. But did it really call for a day shortening?  Specifically the fifth vote for one when only four where necessary?

Looks like I get the last word... forever! Heh heh heh heh....

No, I suppose it wasn't really necessary, but I'm petty, and using game mechanics to win stupid arguments is not above me.

Jokerman-EXE, was it you who psychic warden'd me last night? And can you explain in ten words or less why you trying to pander to my suspicions to save your skin is something a townie would do?

Quote from: webadict on April 22, 2010, 04:02:17 pm

... Did I just get Plasma Bomb'd? DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG.

Technically this could be considered using your bah! post to reveal game information, but somebody would've probably connected the dots anyway.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:11:50 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 05:10:36 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:07:45 pm

All of yours are conjecture.

I get the distinct feeling that you're trying to block my scumhunting attempts.

I get the distinct feeling that you're trying to block my scumhunting attempts.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:19:03 pm

Jokerman-EXE why so scummy?

Quote from: Solifuge on April 22, 2010, 04:27:42 pm

I'm mostly interested in people who switched from their earlier arguments in order to vote RedWarrior0 after the dogpile began. I'm suspecting bussing, particularly from my dear friend forsaken1111.

Yesterday's votes on RedWarrior0: forsaken1111, JanusTwoface, Jim Groovester, Pandarsenic, Vector

What is this? I did not 'switch after the dogpile began'. I voted him for lurking, unhelpfulness, and being obvscum. No other reason.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Mephansteras on April 22, 2010, 05:20:24 pm

The Whiteboard
forsaken1111: Solifuge
Jokerman-EXE: forsaken1111, Jim Groovester, Leafsnail, ToonyMan
Org: JanusTwoface
Pandarsenic: Vector
Vector: Org

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 22, 2010, 05:23:03 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:11:50 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 05:10:36 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:07:45 pm

All of yours are conjecture.

I get the distinct feeling that you're trying to block my scumhunting attempts.

I get the distinct feeling that you're trying to block my scumhunting attempts.

I get the distinct feeling that Org has found the Exterminator.

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 05:07:06 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:05:22 pm

No. It is logical for the exterminator to vote for a "exterminator".

... Whatever.  If you have some real arguments, come hit me with them.

This isn't a denial. More like the criminal in a cop show shouting, "You have no proof!" when faced with an accurate accusation of his crimes.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:30:09 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 22, 2010, 05:23:03 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:11:50 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 05:10:36 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:07:45 pm

All of yours are conjecture.

I get the distinct feeling that you're trying to block my scumhunting attempts.

I get the distinct feeling that you're trying to block my scumhunting attempts.

I get the distinct feeling that Org has found the Exterminator.

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 05:07:06 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:05:22 pm

No. It is logical for the exterminator to vote for a "exterminator".

... Whatever.  If you have some real arguments, come hit me with them.

This isn't a denial. More like the criminal in a cop show shouting, "You have no proof!" when faced with an accurate accusation of his crimes.

I have a distinct feeling that you are trying to deflect to Vector scum
So Jim and Vek.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 22, 2010, 05:34:59 pm

Whoa. Huh.

Wow forsaken, nice OMGUS.

I'm not going to keep trying to convince you fucktards. Keep your votes on me if you prefer, but I'm going to scumhunt.

Pandarsenic, still waiting for answers from yesterday.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:35:46 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 22, 2010, 05:34:59 pm

Whoa. Huh.

Wow forsaken, nice OMGUS.

I'm not going to keep trying to convince you fucktards. Keep your votes on me if you prefer, but I'm going to scumhunt.

Pandarsenic, still waiting for answers from yesterday.

hehehe
you said scumhunt.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:37:00 pm

I want to be the very best,
Like no one ever was.
To lynch them will be my real test,
to hunt them is my cause!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: ToonyMan on April 22, 2010, 05:40:00 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 22, 2010, 05:34:59 pm

I'm not going to keep trying to convince you fucktards. Keep your votes on me if you prefer,

Then there is no reason to change my vote.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:40:31 pm

Indeed

Calling us names doesn't change the fact that you made yourself so obvious

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 22, 2010, 05:42:21 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 04:22:40 pm

I'm voting him because I have 4 picks for exterminator, and he's highest on the list.  I'll be looking back through the thread soon to do another little examination.

Fair enough, although 4/10 seems a little excessive (unless you're on your own list for some reason).  I'll wait for your 'more later' post though.  Just make sure there is one. (don't think the dopps would make that mistake twice and don't want to waste a lynch if that's the case).

Quote from: Solifuge on April 22, 2010, 04:27:42 pm

I'm mostly interested in people who switched from their earlier arguments in order to vote RedWarrior0 after the dogpile began. I'm suspecting bussing, particularly from my dear friend forsaken1111.

Yesterday's votes on RedWarrior0: forsaken1111, JanusTwoface, Jim Groovester, Pandarsenic, Vector

A reasonable argument.  For reference, here's the voting record I have on RedWarrior0:

Reply #185 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1170153#msg1170153) - webadict for first "more later" post
Reply #325 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1177062#msg1177062) - me for no "more later" after 200ish posts
Reply #418 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1181227#msg1181227) - Pandarsenic "LYNCH ALL LURKERS"
Reply #421 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1181282#msg1181282) - forsaken votes but seems defensive about it
Reply #453 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1182003#msg1182003) - Mr.Person for role fishing
Reply #459 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1182337#msg1182337) - Vector seemingly based on Pardarsenic's posts
Reply #472 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1183065#msg1183065) - Jim Groovester for bandwagon -> WIFOM post

Actually, no-one ever unvoted him.  That's kind of interesting.

So Solifuge, why did you pick forsaken?  Because he was first on Mephansteras' list and thus easy perhaps?

The other way around, RedWarrior's votes:

Reply #67 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1166633#msg1166633) - Vector, looks like RVS
Reply #179 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1169958#msg1169958) - unvote, this is the first "post more" post

Makes me suspicious of Vector if anything.  Common enough for newer scum to vote a partner during RVS.  Not too suspicious though. 

That being said, there's another problem.  You posted here (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1180496#msg1180496) calling for a lynch on either forsaken or RedWarrior (although you kept your vote on forsaken) and then didn't post again even though the day didn't end until two and a half days later.  Any particular reason for that?

Actually, I was curious, so I went back to try to find out when you first voted for forsaken.  Turns out it was all of the way back in Reply #164 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1169827#msg1169827) (page 4 / 11) for forsaken's rather unhelpful attitude.  It was a good point then, but is it still now? I went back through the posts and forsaken's attitude varies from competely pointless and random (like the quote pyramids with Org :() to some actually useful posts.

Mostly I think that forsaken is still figuring out his playstyle he's gotten hammered for being too agressive and for being too passive, town both times.  I'm getting the same vibes this time.

Basically, I think Vector's a little suspicious for being the only person RedWarrior voted, Solifuge is lurking somewhat (which isn't unusual, but unfortunate; at least there's content), and forsaken goes back and forth on voting.

Quote from: webadict on April 14, 2010, 10:07:12 pm

Oh crap. I forgot to use the Gambler's Fallacy to say that...

Pandarsenic
Vector
RedWarrior0

will be scum.

Org will be third party.

Going back through the thread I found this.  1/4 so far.  If he turns out to have been correct, he's going to be insufferable next game... :P

Quote from: The forums

Warning - while you were typing 19 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.

!!!!!

I'm going to go ahead and post this, I'll look through the rest when I get back home.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:43:52 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:40:31 pm

Indeed

Calling us names doesn't change the fact that you made yourself so obvious

Way to quick edit

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:44:31 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:43:52 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:40:31 pm

Indeed

Calling us names doesn't change the fact that you made yourself so obvious

Way to quick edit

What?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:45:15 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:44:31 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:43:52 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:40:31 pm

Indeed

Calling us names doesn't change the fact that you made yourself so obvious

Way to quick edit

What?

Before, you had just "Indeed."

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:45:40 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:45:15 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:44:31 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:43:52 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:40:31 pm

Indeed

Calling us names doesn't change the fact that you made yourself so obvious

Way to quick edit

What?

Before, you had just "Indeed."

did not

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:46:01 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:45:40 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:45:15 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:44:31 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:43:52 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:40:31 pm

Indeed

Calling us names doesn't change the fact that you made yourself so obvious

Way to quick edit

What?

Before, you had just "Indeed."

did not

Oh yeah. You forgot the period.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:46:42 pm

Dunno what Org is babbling about

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:47:04 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:46:42 pm

Dunno what Org is babbling about

fail defense.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 22, 2010, 05:47:12 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:30:09 pm

I have a distinct feeling that you are trying to deflect to Vector scum
So Jim and Vek.

...Right.

Org, occasionally you inadvertently stumble onto something. Most of the time you just stumble.

Why, I agree with you about Vector, because of her unusual concern about the Exterminator and how she dismissed your questions.

But accusing me of deflecting onto Vector is an accusation that makes about no sense.

You stumbled on something worth pursuing, and I decided to pursue it.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:48:23 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:47:04 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:46:42 pm

Dunno what Org is babbling about

fail defense.

You want me to defend myself against an accusation that I edited a post? I have no idea what your game is but this is both pointless and irrelevant to the issue at hand.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 22, 2010, 05:59:27 pm

Change of tactics

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:30:09 pm

I have a distinct feeling that you are trying to deflect to Vector scum
So Jim and Vek.

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:47:04 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:46:42 pm

Dunno what Org is babbling about

fail defense.

Org, why are you casting suspicion on everything that moves?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Vector on April 22, 2010, 06:43:40 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 22, 2010, 05:47:12 pm

Why, I agree with you about Vector, because of her unusual concern about the Exterminator and how she dismissed your questions.

Excuse me?  What questions?

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 22, 2010, 05:23:03 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 05:07:06 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:05:22 pm

No. It is logical for the exterminator to vote for a "exterminator".

... Whatever.  If you have some real arguments, come hit me with them.

This isn't a denial. More like the criminal in a cop show shouting, "You have no proof!" when faced with an accurate accusation of his crimes.

"Accurate accusation?"  No, I'm not the exterminator.  I'm not a dopp, either.  I'm a townie.

I'm waiting for Org to show up with his reasons for thinking I'm the exterminator, rather than answering attacks that don't exist.

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 22, 2010, 05:42:21 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 04:22:40 pm

I'm voting him because I have 4 picks for exterminator, and he's highest on the list.  I'll be looking back through the thread soon to do another little examination.

Fair enough, although 4/10 seems a little excessive (unless you're on your own list for some reason).  I'll wait for your 'more later' post though.  Just make sure there is one. (don't think the dopps would make that mistake twice and don't want to waste a lynch if that's the case).

Ah: I have 4 people who I think would play the exterminator this way.  Of those, there's two that seem "likely" and two that seem unlikely.  Pandarsenic is the most likely, since this method of play smells like him.

The reread will mostly be a retrawl to build a case against Pandarsenic, which may be difficult given his low posting volume.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Vector on April 22, 2010, 06:44:36 pm

Whoops, this didn't get into the last post.

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:30:09 pm

I have a distinct feeling that you are trying to deflect to Vector scum
So Jim and Vek.

... So you're nominating me for the dopps, now?  Pick one, scumbucket.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 22, 2010, 07:14:48 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 06:44:36 pm

Whoops, this didn't get into the last post.

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:30:09 pm

I have a distinct feeling that you are trying to deflect to Vector scum
So Jim and Vek.

... So you're nominating me for the dopps, now?  Pick one, scumbucket.

Exterminator=Antitown=Not good, no?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 22, 2010, 07:15:23 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 22, 2010, 05:59:27 pm

Change of tactics

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:30:09 pm

I have a distinct feeling that you are trying to deflect to Vector scum
So Jim and Vek.

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:47:04 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:46:42 pm

Dunno what Org is babbling about

fail defense.

Org, why are you casting suspicion on everything that moves?

because everyone who moves other than me is unknown to me?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 22, 2010, 07:28:37 pm

I can't believe Vector got herself trapped by the Org theory of scummitude. Between that, her other interactions with Org (WHO IS OMG SCUMHUNTING FINALLY! ORG WINS A PRIZE), her vote for me on the most arbitrary of grounds "Hurr hurr he looks exterminate-y" YOU DIDN'T EVEN SAY HOW THAT IS YOU JUST SAID I LOOK LIKE AN EXTY, and her being in the "High risk bracket" I brought up for people likely to be bus-facing or wagon-facing RedWarrior0 once he reached what seemed to be the point of no return, I feel no compunction in voting for her.

And whoever said I lynched RedWarrior0 for LynchAllLurkers: Wrong. I lynched him for his meta, as adapted for a game where he knew everyone would be watching him. And I was right. You're welcome.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 22, 2010, 07:30:25 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 22, 2010, 07:28:37 pm

I can't believe Vector got herself trapped by the Org theory of scummitude. Between that, her other interactions with Org (WHO IS OMG SCUMHUNTING FINALLY! ORG WINS A PRIZE), her vote for me on the most arbitrary of grounds "Hurr hurr he looks exterminate-y" YOU DIDN'T EVEN SAY HOW THAT IS YOU JUST SAID I LOOK LIKE AN EXTY, and her being in the "High risk bracket" I brought up for people likely to be bus-facing or wagon-facing RedWarrior0 once he reached what seemed to be the point of no return, I feel no compunction in voting for her.

And whoever said I lynched RedWarrior0 for LynchAllLurkers: Wrong. I lynched him for his meta, as adapted for a game where he knew everyone would be watching him. And I was right. You're welcome.

I am still watching you.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 22, 2010, 07:31:33 pm

As you should.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 22, 2010, 07:32:08 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 22, 2010, 07:31:33 pm

As you should.

Yes.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 22, 2010, 07:45:25 pm

Finished going through the posts.  Wow that was a lovely burst of activity.

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 22, 2010, 05:11:33 pm

Jokerman-EXE, was it you who psychic warden'd me last night? And can you explain in ten words or less why you trying to pander to my suspicions to save your skin is something a townie would do?

Rolefishing mayhaps?  Tsk tsk.

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:19:03 pm

What is this? I did not 'switch after the dogpile began'. I voted him for lurking, unhelpfulness, and being obvscum. No other reason.

You were the 4th vote which is close enough although it really gained steam after you, you're correct.  It's your wishy washy wording (hoping that he's "just active lurking") that's suspcious to me:

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 19, 2010, 05:50:06 pm

I am going to unvote and vote RedWarrior0 at this point. I just hope that he is scum active lurking, as he seems to be, rather than a townie who is just too busy to play.

You added some to your suspicious after that, but not terribly much.

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 22, 2010, 05:34:59 pm

Whoa. Huh.

Wow forsaken, nice OMGUS.

Can you point out a game where OMGUS was actually a scumtell?  It's claimed so often but basically never seems to actually help.  It's almost worth it to see who refuses to vote someone who votes for them in an inflamatory way.

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 22, 2010, 05:34:59 pm

I'm not going to keep trying to convince you fucktards.

Not helpful.

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:37:00 pm

I want to be the very best,
Like no one ever was.
To lynch them will be my real test,
to hunt them is my cause!

Not helpful.  Amusing, but not helpful.

Spoiler: Org + forsaken quote pyramid (click to show/hide)

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:46:01 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:45:40 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:45:15 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:44:31 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:43:52 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:40:31 pm

Indeed

Calling us names doesn't change the fact that you made yourself so obvious

Way to quick edit

What?

Before, you had just "Indeed."

did not

Oh yeah. You forgot the period.

I've seen you do the same Org, although not in this game.  My email says one thing but the forum says another and doesn't show the edited mark.  And forsaken, the email does just say 'Indeed'.  Any idea why that would be?

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 22, 2010, 07:28:37 pm

And whoever said I lynched RedWarrior0 for LynchAllLurkers: Wrong. I lynched him for his meta, as adapted for a game where he knew everyone would be watching him. And I was right. You're welcome.

I didn't say that's why you lynched him, I said that's the reason you gave when you first voted him:

Spoiler: Pandarsenic's post (click to show/hide)

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 05:33:45 pm

Jim, I'm tempted to keep my vote on you for the "Pandar to my suspicions joke" but I appreciate bad puns and OMGUS votes like the one you just cast, good job there by the way, and now that you're playing, which is what the Lynch All Lurkers (and Activelurkers) policy is meant to enforce...

Unvote Jim Groovester, vote RedWarrior0 because fuck RedWarrior0's refusal to be useful. He's figured out he can't just lurk to victory as scum so he's posting just enough that we remember him posting but I don't recall him posting anything useful.

THIS IS MAFIA. IF YOU'RE NOT BEING USEFUL I'LL VOTE YOU BECAUSE WE ARE NOT.

ALLOWING.

LURKERS.

TO RUIN.

THIS.

GAME.

That is all.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Solifuge on April 22, 2010, 07:52:31 pm

Not seeking to excuse it, but I'll apologize for lurking. I've been a magnet for misfortune lately. (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=43236.msg1187980#msg1187980) Got a lot heaped on my plate as a result of it.

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 22, 2010, 05:42:21 pm

So Solifuge, why did you pick forsaken?  Because he was first on Mephansteras' list and thus easy perhaps?

I've gotten a feeling from him for the entire time, and it is one of inconsistency and masquerade. Shifting emotions, highly specific and largely weightless accusations, and bandwagon behavior (granted it's supplemented by ~2 reasons per accusation).

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 22, 2010, 05:42:21 pm

That being said, there's another problem.  You posted here (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1180496#msg1180496) calling for a lynch on either forsaken or RedWarrior (although you kept your vote on forsaken) and then didn't post again even though the day didn't end until two and a half days later.  Any particular reason for that?

To be frank, because extensions on Day 1 bore the hell out of me, and I stopped reading the thread until the end of the First Extension. When it was extended a second time, I bashed my head, gently, against the keyboard with a resounding "Hruuurgh" and set about to doing other things with my time. I'm a mercurial person, as you have already indicated.

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 22, 2010, 05:42:21 pm

Actually, I was curious, so I went back to try to find out when you first voted for forsaken.  Turns out it was all of the way back in Reply #164 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1169827#msg1169827) (page 4 / 11) for forsaken's rather unhelpful attitude.  It was a good point then, but is it still now? I went back through the posts and forsaken's attitude varies from competely pointless and random (like the quote pyramids with Org :() to some actually useful posts.

I've not yet caught a useful post. Anything he said was a regurgitation of someone else's argument, an OMGUS, or hopping aboard the lynch-wagon. I invite him to prove himself otherwise to me.

---

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 06:43:40 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 22, 2010, 05:47:12 pm

Why, I agree with you about Vector, because of her unusual concern about the Exterminator and how she dismissed your questions.

Excuse me?  What questions?

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 22, 2010, 05:23:03 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 05:07:06 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:05:22 pm

No. It is logical for the exterminator to vote for a "exterminator".

... Whatever.  If you have some real arguments, come hit me with them.

This isn't a denial. More like the criminal in a cop show shouting, "You have no proof!" when faced with an accurate accusation of his crimes.

"Accurate accusation?"  No, I'm not the exterminator.  I'm not a dopp, either.  I'm a townie.

I'm waiting for Org to show up with his reasons for thinking I'm the exterminator, rather than answering attacks that don't exist.

Dame Vektor, was du fresst?!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 07:55:20 pm

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 22, 2010, 07:45:25 pm

It's your wishy washy wording (hoping that he's "just active lurking") that's suspcious to me:

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 19, 2010, 05:50:06 pm

I am going to unvote and vote RedWarrior0 at this point. I just hope that he is scum active lurking, as he seems to be, rather than a townie who is just too busy to play.

You added some to your suspicious after that, but not terribly much.

You find the fact that I hope he's scum lurking and not town unable to get to a computer suspicious? Really? You're suspicious because I don't want to lynch a townie by mistake?!

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 22, 2010, 07:45:25 pm

And forsaken, the email does just say 'Indeed'.  Any idea why that would be?

I don't know why the email doesn't match up with the post, no. Then again I've been having trouble with the forums for days when posting or just browsing, so I'm not entirely sure they're working 100% yet. The recent move was good but I still get a few glitches.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 22, 2010, 08:07:16 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 22, 2010, 07:52:31 pm

Not seeking to excuse it, but I'll apologize for lurking. I've been a magnet for misfortune lately. (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=43236.msg1187980#msg1187980) Got a lot heaped on my plate as a result of it.

Ouch.  Okay, fair enough.  Best of luck with that.

And I happen to agree with you about the incessant early game extensions (or shortenings for that matter).  Everyone knows when they day is scheduled to end, so get in what you need by then.

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 19, 2010, 05:50:06 pm

You find the fact that I hope he's scum lurking and not town unable to get to a computer suspicious? Really? You're suspicious because I don't want to lynch a townie by mistake?!

Honestly, yes.  He was being suspicious and lurking after being repetedly warned not too.  Your wording looks like you are attacking only to appear to be scum hunting and using wording that will shield if/when things go wrong.  More of a scum tell than town, that.

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 07:55:20 pm

I don't know why the email doesn't match up with the post, no. Then again I've been having trouble with the forums for days when posting or just browsing, so I'm not entirely sure they're working 100% yet. The recent move was good but I still get a few glitches.

Okay.  It's not like it was a big change.  Just unusual.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 08:16:18 pm

You're reading to much into it. My wording was intended to convey that I was behind the lynch, I was just hoping we were correct.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Vector on April 22, 2010, 08:27:42 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 22, 2010, 07:28:37 pm

I can't believe Vector got herself trapped by the Org theory of scummitude. Between that, her other interactions with Org (WHO IS OMG SCUMHUNTING FINALLY! ORG WINS A PRIZE), her vote for me on the most arbitrary of grounds "Hurr hurr he looks exterminate-y" YOU DIDN'T EVEN SAY HOW THAT IS YOU JUST SAID I LOOK LIKE AN EXTY, and her being in the "High risk bracket" I brought up for people likely to be bus-facing or wagon-facing RedWarrior0 once he reached what seemed to be the point of no return, I feel no compunction in voting for her.

No, I'm saying that there's clearly an exterminator (I checked the tech slots and so on).  Thinking about it, this strategy looks like it would be performed by:

Pandarsenic
Leafsnail
Vector
JimGroovester
Solifuge

in that order.  Vector is town, so she gets crossed off the list.  Then, JimGroovester and Solifuge would probably play the game a bit closer to the chest, so I put them near the bottom.  I doubt they'd take this kind of audacious gamble, though they'd know enough meta to think "Webadict N1 PlasmaBomb" was a good idea.

That leaves you and Leafsnail as the most likely to use this gambit, but you're at the very top because ... well, once again, it reeks of you.  I've played enough games with you to know your style, and this just looks like you.  It's your playstyle, it's your sort of idea.  It's ballsy and based on a small piece of information that not all that many people know about and few would bet on.

But I know you.  You're a gambler, and this looks like your sort of play--or, as I said, possibly Leafsnail's.

Quote from: Solifuge on April 22, 2010, 07:52:31 pm

Dame Vektor, was du fresst?!

I'm currently devouring a samosa and a glass of milk, actually.  55 cents at the Indian Cash-and-Carry :D

Protip: I don't speak German.  Yet.

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 07:55:20 pm

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 22, 2010, 07:45:25 pm

It's your wishy washy wording (hoping that he's "just active lurking") that's suspcious to me:

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 19, 2010, 05:50:06 pm

I am going to unvote and vote RedWarrior0 at this point. I just hope that he is scum active lurking, as he seems to be, rather than a townie who is just too busy to play.

You added some to your suspicious after that, but not terribly much.

You find the fact that I hope he's scum lurking and not town unable to get to a computer suspicious? Really? You're suspicious because I don't want to lynch a townie by mistake?!

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 22, 2010, 07:45:25 pm

And forsaken, the email does just say 'Indeed'.  Any idea why that would be?

I don't know why the email doesn't match up with the post, no. Then again I've been having trouble with the forums for days when posting or just browsing, so I'm not entirely sure they're working 100% yet. The recent move was good but I still get a few glitches.

You're a dopp.  You're freaking out entirely too much over what honestly seems to be a minor post edit, and a little handful of votes.

So, until I manage to get the rest of that case on Pandarsenic: Forsaken1111.  Further quotation-logging on you is also forthcoming.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 08:28:23 pm

Where exactly did I 'freak out' about it?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Vector on April 22, 2010, 08:30:58 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 08:28:23 pm

Where exactly did I 'freak out' about it?

The part where you tried really, really hard not to own up to it--and have now slipped and effectively stated that you did edit your post.

Your responses to Org and Janus indicate that you are lying and, since I advocate lynching all liars, I'm voting you.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 22, 2010, 08:31:17 pm

Lol vek you are so hilarious.
You completely ignore me.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 08:32:56 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 08:30:58 pm

The part where you tried really, really hard not to own up to it--and have now slipped and effectively stated that you did edit your post.

When did this happen? I think you are misinterpreting something. I never edited anything, and if I had such an edit would show an edit tag. Frankly I think you're all making far too much out of a glitch.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Vector on April 22, 2010, 08:35:41 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 08:31:17 pm

Lol vek you are so hilarious.
You completely ignore me.

No, I'm not ignoring you.  Note all those other posts.  I'm waiting for you to say something other than "Lol, Vector is an Exterminator" with what appears to be no backing whatsoever.

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 08:32:56 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 08:30:58 pm

The part where you tried really, really hard not to own up to it--and have now slipped and effectively stated that you did edit your post.

When did this happen? I think you are misinterpreting something. I never edited anything, and if I had such an edit would show an edit tag. Frankly I think you're all making far too much out of a glitch.

I'm talking about that short edit period where the edit tag doesn't show up.  I feel like you're lying out of your ears right now, to be honest.

I also note that your "I don't care about you as a human being" tends to show up when you're playing scum, and it popped up this game.  Most curious.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 22, 2010, 08:36:53 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 08:35:41 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 08:31:17 pm

Lol vek you are so hilarious.
You completely ignore me.

No, I'm not ignoring you.  Note all those other posts.  I'm waiting for you to say something other than "Lol, Vector is an Exterminator" with what appears to be no backing whatsoever.

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 08:32:56 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 08:30:58 pm

The part where you tried really, really hard not to own up to it--and have now slipped and effectively stated that you did edit your post.

When did this happen? I think you are misinterpreting something. I never edited anything, and if I had such an edit would show an edit tag. Frankly I think you're all making far too much out of a glitch.

I'm talking about that short edit period where the edit tag doesn't show up.  I feel like you're lying out of your ears right now, to be honest.

I also note that your "I don't care about you as a human being" tends to show up when you're playing scum, and it popped up this game.  Most curious.

You seem off.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Vector on April 22, 2010, 08:38:04 pm

That's a start.  Please explain how I seem off.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 22, 2010, 08:38:30 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 08:38:04 pm

That's a start.  Please explain how I seem off.

Defense was all meh.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 08:40:10 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 08:35:41 pm

I'm talking about that short edit period where the edit tag doesn't show up.  I feel like you're lying out of your ears right now, to be honest.

I also note that your "I don't care about you as a human being" tends to show up when you're playing scum, and it popped up this game.  Most curious.

I was asking when this slip-up occurred that you seem so sure of. I never admitted any such thing, and would not because its incorrect.

As for my 'I don't care about you as a human being" attitude, that's just me being an asshole as usual. I'm not sure which game you're talking about where this popped up, but I'd love a few supporting quotes if this is your reason for voting me, however meta it is.

So please clarify, are you voting me because you believe I edited a post to add in an inconsequential line or because I acted like a jerk in a different game?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Vector on April 22, 2010, 08:45:30 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 08:38:30 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 08:38:04 pm

That's a start.  Please explain how I seem off.

Defense was all meh.

MAYBE IF YOUR ATTACKS WEREN'T SO GODDAMNED MEH, MY DEFENSE COULD BE LESS MEH YOU LITTLE TOAD!

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 08:40:10 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 08:35:41 pm

I'm talking about that short edit period where the edit tag doesn't show up.  I feel like you're lying out of your ears right now, to be honest.

I also note that your "I don't care about you as a human being" tends to show up when you're playing scum, and it popped up this game.  Most curious.

I was asking when this slip-up occurred that you seem so sure of. I never admitted any such thing, and would not because its incorrect.

As for my 'I don't care about you as a human being" attitude, that's just me being an asshole as usual. I'm not sure which game you're talking about where this popped up, but I'd love a few supporting quotes if this is your reason for voting me, however meta it is.

So please clarify, are you voting me because you believe I edited a post to add in an inconsequential line or because I acted like a jerk in a different game?

I'm voting you because you edited a post to add in an inconsequential line (or so it seems, given various "evidence"), and I feel like the vote is supported by

Quote from: forsaken1111 on March 10, 2010, 01:58:38 am

Quote from: Vector on March 09, 2010, 09:02:36 pm

HMPH.

Oh and Sorry Vector, nothing personal. I had to keep the bluster up.  ;D

Your behavior from this game.  Remember this?  I certainly do.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 08:50:47 pm

So you're voting because you think I added something inconsequential to a post, and because I acted like a jerk in this game. And this makes me scum how?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 22, 2010, 08:51:08 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 08:35:41 pm

I'm talking about that short edit period where the edit tag doesn't show up.  I feel like you're lying out of your ears right now, to be honest.

I really don't think that this was forsaken's fault.  It went from this:

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:40:31 pm

Indeed

To this:

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:40:31 pm

Indeed

Calling us names doesn't change the fact that you made yourself so obvious

Not really a big deal.  There are plenty better things to go after forsaken for than that.

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 08:27:42 pm

So, until I manage to get the rest of that case on Pandarsenic: Forsaken1111.  Further quotation-logging on you is also forthcoming.

If I read this correctly you are going to go back and look harder at Pandarsenic and Forsaken.  Is this correct?  If so, do you have a rough ETA?  The day is currently scheduled to last until Monday so we have plenty of time, but it would be nice to have some time to go over it.

Spoiler: Off topic (click to show/hide)

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 08:45:30 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 08:38:30 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 08:38:04 pm

That's a start.  Please explain how I seem off.

Defense was all meh.

MAYBE IF YOUR ATTACKS WEREN'T SO GODDAMNED MEH, MY DEFENSE COULD BE LESS MEH YOU LITTLE TOAD!

That made me think of an Ogre Toad:
(http://pic.leech.it/i/8d357/adbf8f02hg9xty.jpg)

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: ToonyMan on April 22, 2010, 08:53:32 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 08:50:47 pm

So you're voting because you think I added something inconsequential to a post, and because I acted like a jerk in this game. And this makes me scum how?

Meta.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Vector on April 22, 2010, 09:04:21 pm

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 22, 2010, 08:51:08 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 22, 2010, 08:35:41 pm

I'm talking about that short edit period where the edit tag doesn't show up.  I feel like you're lying out of your ears right now, to be honest.

I really don't think that this was forsaken's fault.  It went from this:

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:40:31 pm

Indeed

To this:

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 05:40:31 pm

Indeed

Calling us names doesn't change the fact that you made yourself so obvious

Not really a big deal.  There are plenty better things to go after forsaken for than that.

It's not a big deal.  His reaction to the small deal, however, is a big deal.  I wasn't paying all that much attention D1, and this is what has caught my eye about his behavior.

The ETA is probably going to be Friday evening, since the morning will be dedicated to exercise and studying and I'm currently playing Baten Kaitos.

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 08:50:47 pm

So you're voting because you think I added something inconsequential to a post, and because I acted like a jerk in this game. And this makes me scum how?

Your apparent overreaction is what worries me.  Your acting like a jerk (a fairly weak meta-argument) is just the beginning of a case I intend to build.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 09:06:15 pm

My reaction? All I did was tell org he was wrong and then try to dismiss the whole thing, because it was stupid.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Vector on April 22, 2010, 09:09:46 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 09:06:15 pm

My reaction? All I did was tell org he was wrong and then try to dismiss the whole thing, because it was stupid.

...

If you edited it and then told him you didn't, you are probably scum.  As such, I cannot believe anything you say on the matter.  I will, however, go back and make a larger case on you.  If you address that case adequately, I will remove my vote.  That is all.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 22, 2010, 09:12:02 pm

You are all Murr I am ANGRY RAR

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 09:13:55 pm

Even if I had lied about the edit, that wouldn't make me scum Vector. It would just make me a pathological liar. Your reasons for voting me are without merit, I hope you do make a 'better' case against me, or any case at all in fact which doesn't include "you might have lied about something that doesn't impact the game" and "you acted like a jerk in another game".

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Vector on April 22, 2010, 09:16:57 pm

Quote from: Org on April 22, 2010, 09:12:02 pm

You are all Murr I am ANGRY RAR

And what's your point?  You are all Murr I am STUPID DUR.

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 09:13:55 pm

Even if I had lied about the edit, that wouldn't make me scum Vector. It would just make me a pathological liar. Your reasons for voting me are without merit, I hope you do make a 'better' case against me, or any case at all in fact which doesn't include "you might have lied about something that doesn't impact the game" and "you acted like a jerk in another game".

... Lynch all liars.  Also, now you're just being difficult.

If you're town and lying about this dumb little edit, then let it be known that you shouldn't do that next time.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 22, 2010, 09:19:50 pm

I am town, and I'm not lying, and there was no edit. I am glad to see we're all quite paranoid.

I apologize for being 'difficult'. Next time the forums glitch and people want to lynch me for no reason at all, I'll be sure to make it quite easy for them.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 22, 2010, 09:31:37 pm

Hehe, it isnt funny when you get caught as scum.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: ToonyMan on April 22, 2010, 10:05:02 pm

The forum didn't glitch unless JanusTwoFace is lying.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 22, 2010, 10:19:02 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 22, 2010, 10:05:02 pm

The forum didn't glitch unless JanusTwoFace is lying.

Huh?  Either Forsaken is lying or the forum did glitch.  I've seen it do the same thing before (Org in one of the Vote Mafias).  And it will duplicate posts when you are previewing messages if a new response shows up while you are typing.  I have no idea why he'd edit for such a small matter, so I don't think he's lying.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: ToonyMan on April 22, 2010, 10:21:39 pm

OK.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 23, 2010, 12:00:36 am

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 22, 2010, 07:45:25 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 22, 2010, 07:28:37 pm

And whoever said I lynched RedWarrior0 for LynchAllLurkers: Wrong. I lynched him for his meta, as adapted for a game where he knew everyone would be watching him. And I was right. You're welcome.

I didn't say that's why you lynched him, I said that's the reason you gave when you first voted him:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 05:33:45 pm

Jim, I'm tempted to keep my vote on you for the "Pandar to my suspicions joke" but I appreciate bad puns and OMGUS votes like the one you just cast, good job there by the way, and now that you're playing, which is what the Lynch All Lurkers (and Activelurkers) policy is meant to enforce...

Unvote Jim Groovester, vote RedWarrior0 because fuck RedWarrior0's refusal to be useful. He's figured out he can't just lurk to victory as scum so he's posting just enough that we remember him posting but I don't recall him posting anything useful.

THIS IS MAFIA. IF YOU'RE NOT BEING USEFUL I'LL VOTE YOU BECAUSE WE ARE NOT.

ALLOWING.

LURKERS.

TO RUIN.

THIS.

GAME.

That is all.

Emphasis added for Janus, and to answer the question about the OMGUS: Janus, I once got YOU with it, remember?


Vector: Aww, backing off of me so soon?

You're like GRAWR IT IS PANDAR
I KNOW IT 'CAUSE OF META AND BALLS
PANDARSENIC HAS META AND BALLS
SO NOW I'M GOING TO VOTE FORSAKEN1111 BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T BLINDLY PILE ON PANDARSENIC

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Vector on April 23, 2010, 12:11:33 am

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 23, 2010, 12:00:36 am

Vector: Aww, backing off of me so soon?

You're like GRAWR IT IS PANDAR
I KNOW IT 'CAUSE OF META AND BALLS
PANDARSENIC HAS META AND BALLS
SO NOW I'M GOING TO VOTE FORSAKEN1111 BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T BLINDLY PILE ON PANDARSENIC

No, I thought I'd caught him lying.  That's more of an offense than "being ballsy when a ballsy move was used."  So I unvoted you.  I still think that either you or Leafsnail is the exterminator.  I just happened to think that Forsaken was a confirmed dopp.

As I said, I'll look at both of you again tomorrow evening.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Solifuge on April 23, 2010, 12:17:30 am

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 23, 2010, 12:00:36 am

GRAWR IT IS PANDAR
I KNOW IT 'CAUSE OF META AND BALLS
PANDARSENIC HAS META AND BALLS
SO NOW I'M GOING TO VOTE FORSAKEN1111 BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T BLINDLY PILE ON PANDARSENIC

Pardon my vast unhelpfulness please, but I totally read that as some kind of Amazonian "VECTOR IS TRYING TO KILL ME BECAUSE I HAVE BALLS" thing, and I just about cracked up thinking on it.

I'mma go get some rest now, doods.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 23, 2010, 01:14:41 am

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 23, 2010, 12:00:36 am

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 22, 2010, 07:45:25 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 22, 2010, 07:28:37 pm

And whoever said I lynched RedWarrior0 for LynchAllLurkers: Wrong. I lynched him for his meta, as adapted for a game where he knew everyone would be watching him. And I was right. You're welcome.

I didn't say that's why you lynched him, I said that's the reason you gave when you first voted him:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 05:33:45 pm

Jim, I'm tempted to keep my vote on you for the "Pandar to my suspicions joke" but I appreciate bad puns and OMGUS votes like the one you just cast, good job there by the way, and now that you're playing, which is what the Lynch All Lurkers (and Activelurkers) policy is meant to enforce...

Unvote Jim Groovester, vote RedWarrior0 because fuck RedWarrior0's refusal to be useful. He's figured out he can't just lurk to victory as scum so he's posting just enough that we remember him posting but I don't recall him posting anything useful.

THIS IS MAFIA. IF YOU'RE NOT BEING USEFUL I'LL VOTE YOU BECAUSE WE ARE NOT.

ALLOWING.

LURKERS.

TO RUIN.

THIS.

GAME.

That is all.

Emphasis added for Janus, and to answer the question about the OMGUS: Janus, I once got YOU with it, remember?


Vector: Aww, backing off of me so soon?

You're like GRAWR IT IS PANDAR
I KNOW IT 'CAUSE OF META AND BALLS
PANDARSENIC HAS META AND BALLS
SO NOW I'M GOING TO VOTE FORSAKEN1111 BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T BLINDLY PILE ON PANDARSENIC

Pandar, this is like the third time you've just completely ignored the accusations and questions I've put to you. My vote stays and I hope someone else notices this blatant deflecting/dodging so I don't feel like I'm going crazy here.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 23, 2010, 01:36:43 am

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 23, 2010, 01:14:41 am

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 23, 2010, 12:00:36 am

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 22, 2010, 07:45:25 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 22, 2010, 07:28:37 pm

And whoever said I lynched RedWarrior0 for LynchAllLurkers: Wrong. I lynched him for his meta, as adapted for a game where he knew everyone would be watching him. And I was right. You're welcome.

I didn't say that's why you lynched him, I said that's the reason you gave when you first voted him:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 19, 2010, 05:33:45 pm

Jim, I'm tempted to keep my vote on you for the "Pandar to my suspicions joke" but I appreciate bad puns and OMGUS votes like the one you just cast, good job there by the way, and now that you're playing, which is what the Lynch All Lurkers (and Activelurkers) policy is meant to enforce...

Unvote Jim Groovester, vote RedWarrior0 because fuck RedWarrior0's refusal to be useful. He's figured out he can't just lurk to victory as scum so he's posting just enough that we remember him posting but I don't recall him posting anything useful.

THIS IS MAFIA. IF YOU'RE NOT BEING USEFUL I'LL VOTE YOU BECAUSE WE ARE NOT.

ALLOWING.

LURKERS.

TO RUIN.

THIS.

GAME.

That is all.

Emphasis added for Janus, and to answer the question about the OMGUS: Janus, I once got YOU with it, remember?


Vector: Aww, backing off of me so soon?

You're like GRAWR IT IS PANDAR
I KNOW IT 'CAUSE OF META AND BALLS
PANDARSENIC HAS META AND BALLS
SO NOW I'M GOING TO VOTE FORSAKEN1111 BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T BLINDLY PILE ON PANDARSENIC

Pandar, this is like the third time you've just completely ignored the accusations and questions I've put to you. My vote stays and I hope someone else notices this blatant deflecting/dodging so I don't feel like I'm going crazy here.

What and where? -.- Evidently I've missed them three times.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Mephansteras on April 23, 2010, 11:26:27 am

The Whiteboard
forsaken1111: Solifuge, Vector
Jokerman-EXE: forsaken1111, Jim Groovester, Leafsnail, ToonyMan
Org: JanusTwoface
Pandarsenic: Jokerman-EXE
Vector: Org, Pandarsenic

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Leafsnail on April 23, 2010, 11:40:30 am

Quote from: Jokerman

Pandar, this is like the third time you've just completely ignored the accusations and questions I've put to you. My vote stays and I hope someone else notices this blatant deflecting/dodging so I don't feel like I'm going crazy here.

You're still scum, Jokerman.  But apparently you aren't gonna bother defending yourself today... great way to avoid attention or further attacks.  And you haven't so much put it to him three times as mentioned him a few times.  I really don't think he's consciously ignoring you.

Forsaken is covering his ass far too much.  He says didn't lie, although if he did it wouldn't make him scum, and it was a forum glitch, and then makes another restatement of alignment.  And obvious strawmanning when Vector votes you... you're definately second on my scumlist, Forsaken.

Vector's analysis of possible extys is interesting, but I can't say I agree with her "Possible exterminators" list.  For one thing, I can see ToonyMan trying this; for another I feel that Janus, forsaken and Org all have enough past knowledge to come up with the idea as WIFOM.  What IS true is that Pandar is being a useless dick in response to Vector's accusations, and seems to be OMGUSing.  It's looking more and more scummy.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Vector on April 23, 2010, 12:12:50 pm

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 23, 2010, 11:40:30 am

Vector's analysis of possible extys is interesting, but I can't say I agree with her "Possible exterminators" list.  For one thing, I can see ToonyMan trying this; for another I feel that Janus, forsaken and Org all have enough past knowledge to come up with the idea as WIFOM.  What IS true is that Pandar is being a useless dick in response to Vector's accusations, and seems to be OMGUSing.  It's looking more and more scummy.

They have the knowledge, but they don't have the behavior patterns.  Also, I'm fairly certain that Janus is town (meta), though I'm feeling less and less certain of Toony (also mostly meta) given his lurky-lurk.  The thing is, though, that usually he's way more nervous than this when given an alignment with which he's unfamiliar.  So I've partially ruled him out, especially because this looks like it was very carefully planned--and he tends to be more spontaneous.

Org would do it, yeah, but usually he uses power roles more to be annoying than that sort of destructive.  Again, more planning's going on than I'd expect from Org.

As far as Forsaken goes... maybe?  I don't think so... he looks like a dopp to me.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Solifuge on April 23, 2010, 12:29:11 pm

Circa last Mafia, Pandar started moviong toward an increasing level of Asshattery, and has been much more inflamatory. I think it's a new style he's experimenting with.

Also, I do believe Kashyyk was replaced, yes? I might've missed it, but I believe we have yet to hear from his replacment.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 23, 2010, 01:04:59 pm

Never think someone isnt scum. I plan alot in my games.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 23, 2010, 01:27:14 pm

Quote from: Org on April 23, 2010, 01:04:59 pm

Never think someone isnt scum. I plan alot in my games.

I'd be so interested to see your planning strategy. No joke.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: ToonyMan on April 23, 2010, 01:38:01 pm

I want reasons why people aren't voting Jokerman.

Quote and respond people?  Also why isn't anybody attacking me it's pissing me off.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Vector on April 23, 2010, 01:38:39 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 23, 2010, 01:38:01 pm

I want reasons why people aren't voting Jokerman.

Quote and respond people?  Also why isn't anybody attacking me it's pissing me off.

Possibly because you don't look like scum?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 23, 2010, 06:09:04 pm

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 23, 2010, 11:40:30 am

What IS true is that Pandar is being a useless dick in response to Vector's accusations, and seems to be OMGUSing.  It's looking more and more scummy.

I got a mafia member yesterday and I'm reasonably confident that (it feels so weird saying this) Org found scum. I stated my reasons and voted.

If you're gonna attack me, attack me. None of this poke-and-retreat bullshit.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 23, 2010, 06:43:47 pm

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 22, 2010, 07:45:25 pm

Finished going through the posts.  Wow that was a lovely burst of activity.

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 22, 2010, 05:11:33 pm

Jokerman-EXE, was it you who psychic warden'd me last night? And can you explain in ten words or less why you trying to pander to my suspicions to save your skin is something a townie would do?

Rolefishing mayhaps?  Tsk tsk.

No, not rolefishing. Just letting everyone know I was roleblocked. I was going to vote for Jokerman-EXE anyway so I decided I'd use it as an opportunity to inform everyone. I get the feeling anyway that the person who roleblocked me is town and suspected me, rather than scum just randomly roleblocking me.

---

Anyways, I've gotta say that I actually agree with Pandarsenic about Vector. Org's actually hit upon something.

Vector, I don't like this crap you're pulling. If you suspect Pandarsenic, vote for him. None of this pussyfooting around by saying you can't vote him because you don't have a case on him yet. That's CRAP.

Also, way to muck up the thread with discussion about the Exterminator. Why do you care about him/her above the doppelgangers right now? It seems like a good strategy you'd come up with: distract everyone in the game with discussion about the Exterminator to direct suspicion away from the dopps. Well, I'll have no more of it.

Unvote Jokerman-EXE. He may still be scum, but newbie scum is easily dealt with. Vector is most suspicious right now.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: ToonyMan on April 23, 2010, 06:54:55 pm

I'm not convinced about this.

All votes look like restatements to me.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Vector on April 23, 2010, 07:20:21 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 23, 2010, 06:43:47 pm

Anyways, I've gotta say that I actually agree with Pandarsenic about Vector. Org's actually hit upon something.

Vector, I don't like this crap you're pulling. If you suspect Pandarsenic, vote for him. None of this pussyfooting around by saying you can't vote him because you don't have a case on him yet. That's CRAP.

Also, way to muck up the thread with discussion about the Exterminator. Why do you care about him/her above the doppelgangers right now? It seems like a good strategy you'd come up with: distract everyone in the game with discussion about the Exterminator to direct suspicion away from the dopps. Well, I'll have no more of it.

Unvote Jokerman-EXE. He may still be scum, but newbie scum is easily dealt with. Vector is most suspicious right now.

I voted him because he looked suspicious.  Now I am voting Forsaken1111 because I thought he had been caught in a bold-faced lie, which is higher on the "scumminess" list than "I think he's the exterminator."

Why do I care about the exterminator?  Because he's trying to kill townies.  What do I do to people trying to kill townies?  I vote them and try to smoke them out of their little hidey-holes.  I don't want to screw around with the exterminator at lylo, I want to find him and kill him as soon as I can.  You may also note that I've also been talking about dopps, so it's not like I've been going "OMG, let's kill the exterminator and ignore the dopp threat!"

Well, anyway.  If you've got any questions to ask, ask them.  For now... I have a headache and I need to go study, so I guess I'll go do that.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 23, 2010, 07:52:03 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 23, 2010, 01:27:14 pm

Quote from: Org on April 23, 2010, 01:04:59 pm

Never think someone isnt scum. I plan alot in my games.

I'd be so interested to see your planning strategy. No joke.

Cant telol you now.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: ToonyMan on April 24, 2010, 09:39:46 am

Vote count.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 24, 2010, 11:19:07 am

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 24, 2010, 09:39:46 am

Vote count.

What? He did one less than a page ago. Unless I missed something, the only thing that changed is that Jim unvoted and voted vector causing a tie.

Unofficial Vote Count:

The Whiteboard
forsaken1111: Solifuge, Vector
Jokerman-EXE: forsaken1111, Leafsnail, ToonyMan
Org: JanusTwoface
Pandarsenic: Jokerman-EXE
Vector: Org, Pandarsenic, Jim Groovester

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: ToonyMan on April 24, 2010, 11:38:55 am

I looked everywhere and couldn't find it.  I must of looked too far back and not the front.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: ToonyMan on April 24, 2010, 11:40:07 am

None of his vote counts have when the day ends, I don't want a freakin tie.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 24, 2010, 12:21:40 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 24, 2010, 11:40:07 am

None of his vote counts have when the day ends, I don't want a freakin tie.

I think we're ok.

Quote from: Mephansteras on April 22, 2010, 03:59:29 pm

Day 2 has started. It will go until ~5pm Pacific Monday

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Mephansteras on April 24, 2010, 12:24:00 pm

The Whiteboard
forsaken1111: Solifuge, Vector
Jokerman-EXE: forsaken1111, Leafsnail, ToonyMan
Org: JanusTwoface
Pandarsenic: Jokerman-EXE
Vector: Jim Groovester, Org, Pandarsenic

---

Day ends ~5pm Pacific Monday

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Leafsnail on April 24, 2010, 01:16:47 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic

I got a mafia member yesterday and I'm reasonably confident that (it feels so weird saying this) Org found scum. I stated my reasons and voted.

If you're gonna attack me, attack me. None of this poke-and-retreat bullshit.

Aaaand yet this isn't what I called you out on.  Y'see, one use of making a fairly mild attack is that you get to see if someone massively overreacts.  Yes, you got scum yesterday, but I don't see how this a defence, especially when we have an Exterminator.

Unvote.  Pandarsenic.  The bit at the end is almost hilariously hypocritical.  You criticise me for making a mild attack while making... an extremely mild attack.  And if I've only made one post against you, how can I have poked and retreated?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 24, 2010, 09:16:35 pm

You said I'm being useless and OMGUSing.

The initial part is a refutation of useless.

The second part addresses you using a scumtell with very specific applications to go "you're looking increasingly scummy, so if I need to lynch you later I can point back at this. I'm so clever!"

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 24, 2010, 10:17:07 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 23, 2010, 07:20:21 pm

I voted him because he looked suspicious.  Now I am voting Forsaken1111 because I thought he had been caught in a bold-faced lie, which is higher on the "scumminess" list than "I think he's the exterminator."

Why do I care about the exterminator?  Because he's trying to kill townies.  What do I do to people trying to kill townies?  I vote them and try to smoke them out of their little hidey-holes.  I don't want to screw around with the exterminator at lylo, I want to find him and kill him as soon as I can.  You may also note that I've also been talking about dopps, so it's not like I've been going "OMG, let's kill the exterminator and ignore the dopp threat!"

Well, anyway.  If you've got any questions to ask, ask them.  For now... I have a headache and I need to go study, so I guess I'll go do that.

So you vote people you find suspicious, but you unvote them when you can't build a case against them (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1189635#msg1189635)? I dunno, Vector, that seems pretty inconsistent to me.

Then there's what you're doing with forsaken1111. You pulled out Lynch All Liars on him, over a post edit. That seems a bit excessive. Also, you've justified your vote partly because him being a dick is apparently a scum tell, at least to you. Are you sure you don't have an axe to grind with him? You referenced his behavior, against you in part, (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1189704#msg1189704) as one of your reasons you voted for him.

I see you using some common scum tricks. Dropping the hammer on people hard for minor scum tells is pretty scummy, and invoking policy lynches for the same minor scum tells is pretty scummy, too. Then there's you flat out abandoning your attack on Pandarsenic, just to go after a guy who may or may not have made a post edit.

Quote from: Mephansteras on April 12, 2010, 02:10:51 pm

Players

• ...
• Darkness3313-- Replaced Kashyyk

Hey, who's this dude and why hasn't he said anything yet?

Darkness3313, typically when you replace somebody it's polite to actually play the game you're entering.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Vector on April 24, 2010, 11:12:05 pm

...

Look: I think Janus is town.  Therefore I thought Forsaken must be lying.  I don't hold long-term grudges, but I remember that as a piece of meta (kind of like "Webadict tends to be a real dick when he plays town").  I dropped Pandarsenic because I only have one vote to use on people who I think are scum.

I can and will build a case on Pandarsenic.  I'm not doing that right now because there's some rather more important RL issues going on right now, so I'm mostly taking things as they come, rather than engaging in such a time- and labor-intensive process.  I'm lazy.  Shoot me.


I will also note that I have invoked no policy lynches whatsoever, since the main body of my reasoning amounts to "If Forsaken edited his post and then felt the need to lie about it, then that constitutes an overreaction.  Overreactions are scummy."  Furthermore, it seems as though you have never heard of pressure voting--or is that scummy now?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 24, 2010, 11:19:11 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 24, 2010, 11:12:05 pm

I can and will build a case on Pandarsenic.  I'm not doing that right now because there's some rather more important RL issues going on right now, so I'm mostly taking things as they come, rather than engaging in such a time- and labor-intensive process.  I'm lazy.  Shoot me.

We'll wait. Unless we lynch you. :3 I still think your general actions are and have been scummy though, for the same reasons as I last named, thus my continued vote.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 24, 2010, 11:22:46 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 23, 2010, 06:43:47 pm

Unvote Jokerman-EXE. He may still be scum, but newbie scum is easily dealt with. Vector is most suspicious right now.

Jim I'd like this explained. You say clearly that Jokerman is scum, yet you unvote him because you suspect vector.

I want to make sure I understand. You are unvoting someone you KNOW to be scum to vote someone you SUSPECT to be scum. Is that correct?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 24, 2010, 11:23:17 pm

Another question on that Jim, did you realize you were creating a tie situation?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Vector on April 24, 2010, 11:43:02 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 24, 2010, 11:19:11 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 24, 2010, 11:12:05 pm

I can and will build a case on Pandarsenic.  I'm not doing that right now because there's some rather more important RL issues going on right now, so I'm mostly taking things as they come, rather than engaging in such a time- and labor-intensive process.  I'm lazy.  Shoot me.

We'll wait. Unless we lynch you. :3 I still think your general actions are and have been scummy though, for the same reasons as I last named, thus my continued vote.

No problem.  Sorry for keeping you waiting.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 24, 2010, 11:46:18 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 24, 2010, 11:43:02 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 24, 2010, 11:19:11 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 24, 2010, 11:12:05 pm

I can and will build a case on Pandarsenic.  I'm not doing that right now because there's some rather more important RL issues going on right now, so I'm mostly taking things as they come, rather than engaging in such a time- and labor-intensive process.  I'm lazy.  Shoot me.

We'll wait. Unless we lynch you. :3 I still think your general actions are and have been scummy though, for the same reasons as I last named, thus my continued vote.

No problem.  Sorry for keeping you waiting.

S'fine. You have a day or two.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: ToonyMan on April 25, 2010, 11:57:14 am

HEY JOKERMAN

You think Vector or Forsaken is right?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 25, 2010, 02:30:57 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 24, 2010, 11:12:05 pm

Shoot me.

Okay.

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 24, 2010, 11:22:46 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 23, 2010, 06:43:47 pm

Unvote Jokerman-EXE. He may still be scum, but newbie scum is easily dealt with. Vector is most suspicious right now.

Jim I'd like this explained. You say clearly that Jokerman is scum, yet you unvote him because you suspect vector.

I want to make sure I understand. You are unvoting someone you KNOW to be scum to vote someone you SUSPECT to be scum. Is that correct?

Yes, that's right. If Jokerman-EXE is scum, he'll drop more scumtells that will convict him further. But Vector's cunning and crafty and not so easy to catch.

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 24, 2010, 11:23:17 pm

Another question on that Jim, did you realize you were creating a tie situation?

It's like a broken record with you about ties. Yes, I did know I was making a tie.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 25, 2010, 07:25:48 pm

@Pandarsenic:

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 19, 2010, 05:05:12 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 17, 2010, 02:54:46 pm

I know that was half-assed, thus the "for now." You've stated two people you claim are suspicious and I want to deal with Jim, but you're not off the hook. I just want to deal with someone other than you for now because god knows I don't have the patience to keep this up forever. That's your whole strategy as scum though, so... ugh.

Still waiting for the rest of this.

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 19, 2010, 06:14:13 pm

How the fuck am I buddying him? He's voting for me, dude. I'm accusing you because, you know, you're scum and you act like, that's right, scum. By the way, read my double post, because I'm still waiting for the continuation of your accusation of Org/the switch over to Jim.

In fact, in addition to that, what's your current scumlist?

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 22, 2010, 05:34:59 pm

Pandarsenic, still waiting for answers from yesterday.

You've posted like 30 times since the first time I asked, and not once have you even acknowledged the questions. Why is that? It's mighty suspicious that you can have a silly quote fight with WUBA WUBA WUBA but not post any content when you've had questions asked of you.

@Toony: The fuck you talkin' bout, man? Can you link me, or something?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 25, 2010, 07:28:00 pm

Hey guys.

You know what is not fun? Studying for statistics for three hours.
And stuff

Vector is stillk Exterminator

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 25, 2010, 07:53:51 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 25, 2010, 07:25:48 pm

@Pandarsenic:

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 19, 2010, 05:05:12 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 17, 2010, 02:54:46 pm

I know that was half-assed, thus the "for now." You've stated two people you claim are suspicious and I want to deal with Jim, but you're not off the hook. I just want to deal with someone other than you for now because god knows I don't have the patience to keep this up forever. That's your whole strategy as scum though, so... ugh.

Still waiting for the rest of this.

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 19, 2010, 06:14:13 pm

How the fuck am I buddying him? He's voting for me, dude. I'm accusing you because, you know, you're scum and you act like, that's right, scum. By the way, read my double post, because I'm still waiting for the continuation of your accusation of Org/the switch over to Jim.

In fact, in addition to that, what's your current scumlist?

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 22, 2010, 05:34:59 pm

Pandarsenic, still waiting for answers from yesterday.

You've posted like 30 times since the first time I asked, and not once have you even acknowledged the questions. Why is that? It's mighty suspicious that you can have a silly quote fight with WUBA WUBA WUBA but not post any content when you've had questions asked of you.

@Toony: The fuck you talkin' bout, man? Can you link me, or something?

I answered those ages ago. A little effort, please.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: ToonyMan on April 25, 2010, 07:56:52 pm

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 25, 2010, 07:25:48 pm

@Toony: The undeed swear you talkin' bout, man? Can you link me, or something?

The previous page dude, like, can you read?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: ToonyMan on April 25, 2010, 07:58:49 pm

When Vector attacked Forsaken for lying about editing his post.

Is this truth or not to you?  Who'd you suppose?  Is this an overreaction on Vector's part or Forsaken's?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 26, 2010, 09:57:11 am

Ug.  Sick.

Spoiler: Long version == Wall of text (click to show/hide)

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 23, 2010, 12:00:36 am

... to answer the question about the OMGUS: Janus, I once got YOU with it, remember?

When was that?  Near-mountainious mayhaps?  Not my greatest game ever.

Quote from: Vector on April 23, 2010, 12:11:33 am

No, I thought I'd caught him lying.  That's more of an offense than "being ballsy when a ballsy move was used."  So I unvoted you.  I still think that either you or Leafsnail is the exterminator.  I just happened to think that Forsaken was a confirmed dopp.

As I said, I'll look at both of you again tomorrow evening.

Fair enough except it was a relatively small issue.  So it looks more like you trying to push what could have been an easy lynch rather than building a solid case.

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 23, 2010, 11:40:30 am

Vector's analysis of possible extys is interesting, but I can't say I agree with her "Possible exterminators" list.  For one thing, I can see ToonyMan trying this; for another I feel that Janus, forsaken and Org all have enough past knowledge to come up with the idea as WIFOM.  ...

I think you're refering to targetting webadict.  If that's the case, I've made a policy of never targetting him after abducting him twice in earlier Paranormal rounds.  Believe me if you will, but I'm not the Exterminator.

Quote from: Solifuge on April 23, 2010, 12:29:11 pm

Circa last Mafia, Pandar started moviong toward an increasing level of Asshattery, and has been much more inflamatory. I think it's a new style he's experimenting with.

I've seen Pandarsenic's asshattery (such an amusing word) wax and wane quite a bit over the games I've played with him.  Currently he's being somewhat inflamatory but in a quieter way than it could be.

Quote from: Org on April 23, 2010, 01:04:59 pm

Never think someone isnt scum. I plan alot in my games.

Really?  Care to share?

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 23, 2010, 01:38:01 pm

I want reasons why people aren't voting Jokerman.

Quote and respond people?  Also why isn't anybody attacking me it's pissing me off.

Because I've been sick.  And I think that either forsaken or Vector is more likely scum.  I seriously doubt that both are because I don't think we'd see that level of infighting with only two scum left.

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 23, 2010, 06:43:47 pm

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 22, 2010, 07:45:25 pm

Finished going through the posts.  Wow that was a lovely burst of activity.

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 22, 2010, 05:11:33 pm

Jokerman-EXE, was it you who psychic warden'd me last night? And can you explain in ten words or less why you trying to pander to my suspicions to save your skin is something a townie would do?

Rolefishing mayhaps?  Tsk tsk.

No, not rolefishing. Just letting everyone know I was roleblocked. I was going to vote for Jokerman-EXE anyway so I decided I'd use it as an opportunity to inform everyone. I get the feeling anyway that the person who roleblocked me is town and suspected me, rather than scum just randomly roleblocking me.

Huh.  I guess so.  It just feels like an awkard way to go about it.

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 23, 2010, 06:43:47 pm

Also, way to muck up the thread with discussion about the Exterminator. Why do you care about him/her above the doppelgangers right now? It seems like a good strategy you'd come up with: distract everyone in the game with discussion about the Exterminator to direct suspicion away from the dopps. Well, I'll have no more of it.

Because as long as the Exterminator is alive it's far more likely that two of us will die each night.  On the other hand, there's the possibility of the Dopps/Exterminator wiping each other out, but it's statistically unlikely right now.  And at this point the Exterminator still has one more trick up his sleave, so it might be useful to eliminate said threat before it becomes a problem.

Quote from: Org on April 25, 2010, 07:28:00 pm

Hey guys.

You know what is not fun? Studying for statistics for three hours.
And stuff

Vector is stillk Exterminator

Org =/= being helpful, although potentially excusable.  Good luck with statistics, but still.

Short version:
- I'm not the Exterminator, I have a policy of not targetting Webadict N1 after abducting him twice.  Believe it or not, it's true.
- Pandarsenic is not at maximum asshattery, quieter than he could be.
- Org plans things?
- Forsaken or Vector is likely scum.  Not both.
- Jim's (not?) rolefishing was awkwardly worded.
- Exterminator still has a medium slot (which he chose), thus probably more dangerous than a dopp.
- Org is back to less helpful, repeating himself.

I think forsaken or Vector is scum, but we still have until this evening to choose a lynch.  I also think that Darkness3313 hasn't posted at all yet.  I've never played with him before, so it'll be hard enough to get a read on him.  Hopefully a vote will provoke a response if anything will.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 26, 2010, 10:41:37 am

Extension. Meph, I want a prod for Darkness3313.

Also, I do think Vector is scum but I think it's fair that if real life crap is getting her way, we at least give her a chance to respond.

Also, we are NOT tied right now, correct?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Mephansteras on April 26, 2010, 10:53:52 am

The Whiteboard
forsaken1111: Solifuge, Vector
Jokerman-EXE: forsaken1111, ToonyMan
Darkness3313: JanusTwoface
Pandarsenic: Jokerman-EXE, Leafsnail
Vector: Jim Groovester, Org, Pandarsenic

---

Day 2 ends ~5pm Pacific Today.

1 Vote for an Extension.

Darkness3313 has until this afternoon (pacific time) to post or he will be officially prodded.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: webadict on April 26, 2010, 11:41:24 am

Quote from: Mephansteras on April 26, 2010, 10:53:52 am

The Whiteboard
forsaken1111: Solifuge, Vector
Jokerman-EXE: forsaken1111, ToonyMan
Darkness3313: JanusTwoface
Pandarsenic: Jokerman-EXE, Leafsnail
Vector: Jim Groovester, Org, Pandarsenic

---

Day 2 ends ~5pm Pacific Today.

1 Vote for an Extension.

Darkness3313 has until this afternoon (pacific time) to post or he will be officially prodded.

I'd like to point out that this afternoon is when the Day ends. How is that fair?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Mephansteras on April 26, 2010, 11:45:23 am

The day ends at 5pm. I'll let him go until Noon before I do an official prod. Seeing as he hasn't posted since Day 2 began, I think I'm being generous.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: webadict on April 26, 2010, 11:45:54 am

Quote from: Mephansteras on April 26, 2010, 11:45:23 am

The day ends at 5pm. I'll let him go until Noon before I do an official prod. Seeing as he hasn't posted since Day 2 began, I think I'm being generous.

I meant that in being too generous. :P

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 26, 2010, 12:29:38 pm

Hey, Leafsnail, how come JTF is voting lurkers for lurking, instead of you? Didn't you make a giant fuss about it on Day 1? Didn't you make large overtures and tables and graphs and crap like that on Day 1, and you've done none of it on Day 2?

Boy, it's like you completely forgot to keep up appearances at the start of Day 2!

Scum.

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 26, 2010, 10:41:37 am

Extension. Meph, I want a prod for Darkness3313.

Also, I do think Vector is scum but I think it's fair that if real life crap is getting her way, we at least give her a chance to respond.

Also, we are NOT tied right now, correct?

You must be waiting for this case to materialize against you. I doubt it will.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 26, 2010, 12:36:45 pm

Also,

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 26, 2010, 09:57:11 am

Short version:
- I'm not the Exterminator, I have a policy of not targetting Webadict N1 after abducting him twice.  Believe it or not, it's true.

Suspiciously Specific Denial (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuspiciouslySpecificDenial).

I don't think anybody was specifically accusing you of being the Exterminator. Vector on multiple occasions said she thought you were town, and Leafsnail talking about who the Exterminator could be was just hypothetical.

Strange you would make such a strong denial for Leafsnail's speculation.

Interesting. This game looks like it's shaping up. So, JTF, any partners?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 26, 2010, 01:03:11 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 25, 2010, 07:53:51 pm

I answered those ages ago. A little effort, please.

Did you? It's highly possible that I might have missed it. Link me?

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 25, 2010, 07:58:49 pm

When Vector attacked Forsaken for lying about editing his post.

Is this truth or not to you?  Who'd you suppose?  Is this an overreaction on Vector's part or Forsaken's?

Oh, my bad.

I think that initially, it was an overreaction on the part of Vector, but Forsaken made it a lot worse for himself by reacting the way he did. At this point, I think that Vector is pushing maybe a little too hard (which looks kind of like scumhunting to me) and Forsaken is pretty defensive about it.

What about you, Tooneh? Again, sorry if you already posted it, but I probably missed it if you did.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Leafsnail on April 26, 2010, 01:56:06 pm

Eh, I get these weird surges/ lulls in activity.  Sometimes I just feel like I can't be bothered to post.  Sorry, I'll try to get myself into it again.

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 24, 2010, 09:16:35 pm

You said I'm being useless and OMGUSing.

The initial part is a refutation of useless.

The second part addresses you using a scumtell with very specific applications to go "you're looking increasingly scummy, so if I need to lynch you later I can point back at this. I'm so clever!"

So... if you think this is so damning, why didn't you press the point at all later?

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 24, 2010, 11:23:17 pm

Another question on that Jim, did you realize you were creating a tie situation?

How is this relevant?  There was quite a while to go before deadline, so creating a tie situation would probably only be temporary.

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 26, 2010, 01:03:11 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 25, 2010, 07:53:51 pm

I answered those ages ago. A little effort, please.

Did you? It's highly possible that I might have missed it. Link me?

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 25, 2010, 07:58:49 pm

When Vector attacked Forsaken for lying about editing his post.

Is this truth or not to you?  Who'd you suppose?  Is this an overreaction on Vector's part or Forsaken's?

Oh, my bad.

I think that initially, it was an overreaction on the part of Vector, but Forsaken made it a lot worse for himself by reacting the way he did. At this point, I think that Vector is pushing maybe a little too hard (which looks kind of like scumhunting to me) and Forsaken is pretty defensive about it.

What about you, Tooneh? Again, sorry if you already posted it, but I probably missed it if you did.

Well then - who's scum?

Quote from: Jim

Hey, Leafsnail, how come JTF is voting lurkers for lurking, instead of you?

How am I supposed to know?

Quote from: Jim

Didn't you make a giant fuss about it on Day 1? Didn't you make large overtures and tables and graphs and crap like that on Day 1, and you've done none of it on Day 2?

Didn't seem to be working.  And I've had one of these mafia apathy (mapathy?) spells I get on quite a regular basis.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: ToonyMan on April 26, 2010, 02:20:31 pm

Unvote.

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 26, 2010, 01:03:11 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 25, 2010, 07:53:51 pm

I answered those ages ago. A little effort, please.

Did you? It's highly possible that I might have missed it. Link me?

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 25, 2010, 07:58:49 pm

When Vector attacked Forsaken for lying about editing his post.

Is this truth or not to you?  Who'd you suppose?  Is this an overreaction on Vector's part or Forsaken's?

Oh, my bad.

I think that initially, it was an overreaction on the part of Vector, but Forsaken made it a lot worse for himself by reacting the way he did. At this point, I think that Vector is pushing maybe a little too hard (which looks kind of like scumhunting to me) and Forsaken is pretty defensive about it.

What about you, Tooneh? Again, sorry if you already posted it, but I probably missed it if you did.

Besides what Leafsnail said with the not making an absolute answer (get back on that), Forsaken is the scum here.

Why did you try to cover up a simple edit Forsaken?

I think I'm causing a tie so EXTENSION me up.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 26, 2010, 03:29:03 pm

There really isnt much else to add.
I feel convinced that vec is scum.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Vector on April 26, 2010, 03:47:10 pm

Convinced by WHAT, people?  Is it the fact that I haven't written my report yet?  Is it the fact that I'm a little bit less nasty than usual, or that I have other things to do that are more important than a Mafia game?

Sucks for you, but you're going to just have to deal with it.  Honestly, at this point I don't feel like going back and doing a wide scan over the entire game.  If you want to lynch me over that, then go right ahead--but I'm too tired to bother.  Yes, this is me "not playing to win conclusively," and I suppose it's a rules break.  I just don't really care anymore.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Darkness3313 on April 26, 2010, 04:46:06 pm

Sorry for not posting at all, I wasn't aware the day had started.

I can't seem to find anything that hasn't already been said but,
Forsaken is my vote.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 26, 2010, 04:50:47 pm

... That's it? Seriously?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Mephansteras on April 26, 2010, 04:51:49 pm

The Whiteboard
forsaken1111: Darkness3313, Solifuge, ToonyMan, Vector
Jokerman-EXE: forsaken1111
Darkness3313: JanusTwoface
Pandarsenic: Jokerman-EXE, Leafsnail
Vector: Jim Groovester, Org, Pandarsenic

---

Day ends ~5pm Pacific Today.

2 Votes for an Extension. 1 more required to extend the deadline to 5pm Pacific Tuesday.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 26, 2010, 04:57:15 pm

Quote from: Darkness3313 on April 26, 2010, 04:46:06 pm

Sorry for not posting at all, I wasn't aware the day had started.

I can't seem to find anything that hasn't already been said but,
Forsaken is my vote.

Oh mah gawd.
So bad.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 26, 2010, 05:04:28 pm

Vector, exterminate Forsaken1111 and we'll let you stick around for a while.

Unvote Vector, vote Darkness3313.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Vector on April 26, 2010, 05:05:24 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 26, 2010, 05:04:28 pm

Vector, exterminate Forsaken1111 and we'll let you stick around for a while.

That would work if I were the exterminator.  Too bad that I'm a townie.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 26, 2010, 05:33:42 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 26, 2010, 12:36:45 pm

Also,

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 26, 2010, 09:57:11 am

Short version:
- I'm not the Exterminator, I have a policy of not targetting Webadict N1 after abducting him twice.  Believe it or not, it's true.

Suspiciously Specific Denial (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuspiciouslySpecificDenial).

I don't think anybody was specifically accusing you of being the Exterminator. Vector on multiple occasions said she thought you were town, and Leafsnail talking about who the Exterminator could be was just hypothetical.

Strange you would make such a strong denial for Leafsnail's speculation.

Interesting. This game looks like it's shaping up. So, JTF, any partners?

I could have sworn that Pandarsenic had said something.  Can't find it now though.  Leafsnail's post just being hypothetical?  What does that even mean?  Isn't that the entire point of mafia that all accusations (barring investigations, but sometimes even then) are hypothetical?

Quote from: Darkness3313 on April 26, 2010, 04:46:06 pm

Sorry for not posting at all, I wasn't aware the day had started.

I can't seem to find anything that hasn't already been said but,
Forsaken is my vote.

I... what?  Really?  My vote stays.  Replacing in can be hard, but you still have to try.

I'm sick as anything so may be a little disjointed.  I'll vote for the Extension too.  Darkness3313, you have another day, look a little deeper at what's been said.  And I get some sleep.  Maybe that'll help.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Mephansteras on April 26, 2010, 05:34:38 pm

Day has been Extended to ~5pm Pacific Tuesday

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 27, 2010, 09:48:00 am

Still sick, so not a long post.

I think that forsaken or Vector is likely scum but not both (or at least not both of the same type).  I also think that Darkness3313 needs to talk more or die (nothing against you personally, it's just impossible to read someone that doesn't talk).

Right now, we have 11 players right now with 2 dopps and 1 Exterminator (as far as we know) and possibly another alien.  Best case, we lynch a dopp and the Exterminator and remaining dopp cross kill tonight.  While that would be hilarious, I doubt it will happen.  More likely, we'll have 8 players tomorrow with 1-2 dopps and 0-1 Exterminators (pending the lynch).  Still shiny.

On the other hand, right now Forsaken has 3 votes and will be lynched with Darkness, Pandarsenic, and Vector each with 2 votes apiece.  That makes me a might twitchy with the possibility of another Enchanter.

I'll be back later.  Mostly waiting for Darkness3313 at this point.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 27, 2010, 12:32:18 pm

Woah, alright well since the vote has inexplicably swung my way I will go ahead and throw it out there. This will likely mean my death, even if you don't lynch me now to verify my claim. I am a town Agent and last night I investigated Jokerman-exe returning the result of doppelganger. This was and is my main reason for voting him, and I wanted this information to get out before I was lynched.

Now if you need to lynch me to verify my claim, I understand that. Its up to you guys.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 27, 2010, 01:08:37 pm

Hmm. That changes things.

Jokerman-EXE, anything to say on you being a dopp?

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 26, 2010, 05:33:42 pm

I could have sworn that Pandarsenic had said something.  Can't find it now though.  Leafsnail's post just being hypothetical?  What does that even mean?  Isn't that the entire point of mafia that all accusations (barring investigations, but sometimes even then) are hypothetical?

Leafsnail's post was just idle speculation on people who had the know how to pull off a webadict plasma bomb during Night 1. You were among them. As was I. As was Org, ToonyMan, Vector, forsaken1111, Mephansteras, Cheeetar, MagmaDeath, Frelock, Mr. Person, Apostolic Nihilist, and their brothers. Basically, Leafsnail said that everybody could be the Exterminator, but he also didn't seriously accuse anybody of being it. The only serious accusations of Exterminatortude so far have been towards Pandarsenic, by Vector, and towards Vector, by Org, myself, and Pandarsenic.

After all, Org was on the list of potential Exterminators. He didn't go out of his way to deny that he was it. I was on the list of potential Exterminators. I didn't go out of my way to deny it. Leafsnail was also on the list of potential Exterminators, and he didn't go out of his way to deny it.

But you did.

So, what do I think of somebody who ventures out of his way to deny something he hasn't been accused of? Why, I suspect them of being what they deny.

So go make yourself useful and target scum tonight.

Quote from: Leafsnail on April 26, 2010, 01:56:06 pm

Quote from: Jim

Hey, Leafsnail, how come JTF is voting lurkers for lurking, instead of you?

How am I supposed to know?

Quote from: Jim

Didn't you make a giant fuss about it on Day 1? Didn't you make large overtures and tables and graphs and crap like that on Day 1, and you've done none of it on Day 2?

Didn't seem to be working.  And I've had one of these mafia apathy (mapathy?) spells I get on quite a regular basis.

Figures. Lazy scum bum.

It worked well enough on RedWarrior0. Why the change of heart?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 27, 2010, 01:14:53 pm

I'll validate Forsaken's roleclaim by making one of my own.

I'm a Bodyguard and also a Kook. Thus the investigation would come back as Dopp. That's pretty much all there is to say. Like Forsaken, it's pretty much up to you whether or not you believe me.

However, at this point, I do believe that Forsaken's roleclaim is legit.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 27, 2010, 01:23:25 pm

Unvote. Jokerman-EXE.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 27, 2010, 01:27:07 pm

Oh, and before you wonder why I'm voting you, Bodyguard is sort of a role class. It's not a role itself.

Should've picked one of the variants, dude.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 27, 2010, 01:35:15 pm

Oh. Heroic Guard, I didn't know it mattered.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 27, 2010, 01:37:58 pm

The hell it does.

If Heroic Guard were in your role PM, you would've claimed that first.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Mephansteras on April 27, 2010, 01:42:08 pm

The Whiteboard
forsaken1111: Darkness3313, Solifuge, ToonyMan, Vector
Jokerman-EXE: forsaken1111, Jim Groovester
Darkness3313: JanusTwoface, Pandarsenic
Pandarsenic: Jokerman-EXE, Leafsnail
Vector: Org

---

Day ends ~5pm Pacific Today

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Leafsnail on April 27, 2010, 02:05:29 pm

Quote from: Jim Groovester on April 27, 2010, 01:08:37 pm

Figures. Lazy scum bum.

It worked well enough on RedWarrior0. Why the change of heart?

Lazy bum is most definately correct.

What I meant by not working was in stopping lurkers.

Quote from: Jokerman-EXE on April 27, 2010, 01:14:53 pm

PLEASE KILL ME NOW

Ok.  Unvote, vote Jokerman.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: ToonyMan on April 27, 2010, 02:21:07 pm

Hahahaha

Unvote, vote Jokerman, would you look at that I vote scum first then switch to someone to tell me they are 100% scum.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: ToonyMan on April 27, 2010, 02:22:15 pm

Btw, if you get a dopp results usually you tell people that unless you're a high risk player or are scum yourself, but Jokerman proved that nicely.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 27, 2010, 02:29:33 pm

I didn't say anything at first because people were voting him anyway, and I hoped to live through the night to investigate someone else.  I had every intent of revealing my information if the vote swung away from Jokerman but now that my role is known I don't expect to live to see tomorrow.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 27, 2010, 06:28:24 pm

So confusing. Agent claim?
Wow. Nice fake.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: ToonyMan on April 27, 2010, 06:30:37 pm

Quote from: Org on April 27, 2010, 06:28:24 pm

So confusing. Agent claim?
Wow. Nice fake.

Not from Jokerman's reaction.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 27, 2010, 06:31:48 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 27, 2010, 06:30:37 pm

Quote from: Org on April 27, 2010, 06:28:24 pm

So confusing. Agent claim?
Wow. Nice fake.

Not from Jokerman's reaction.

So, maybe Forsaken and Joker are scum, one goes for the Agent, other lies, makes it look obv scum?
Or is that too complex for Joker?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: ToonyMan on April 27, 2010, 06:32:14 pm

That still makes Jokerman scum...

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 27, 2010, 06:34:45 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 27, 2010, 06:32:14 pm

That still makes Jokerman scum...

Yeah, but Vek is still exterminator...

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 27, 2010, 07:30:48 pm

That's a really complex way to bus someone... but I guess it could work. I don't see Jokerman as that deceptive and I'm certainly not that clever.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Org on April 27, 2010, 07:31:44 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 27, 2010, 07:30:48 pm

That's a really complex way to bus someone... but I guess it could work. I don't see Jokerman as that deceptive and I'm certainly not that clever.

hehehe
what up scum?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 27, 2010, 07:34:55 pm

Org do you actually have an attack to make or are you just going to keep repeating yourself?

It doesn't matter though, I doubt the scum will let me live past tonight if you guys don't lynch me today.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 27, 2010, 07:39:16 pm

Hey Vector, what do you make of Jokerman-EXE's brilliant claim? You've yet to comment on it.

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 27, 2010, 07:34:55 pm

It doesn't matter though, I doubt the scum will let me live past tonight if you guys don't lynch me today.

It would be stupid to lynch you when there's obvscum about.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 2 - What's a vacation without a luau?
Post by: Mephansteras on April 27, 2010, 07:40:31 pm

The Whiteboard
forsaken1111: Darkness3313, Solifuge, Vector
Jokerman-EXE: forsaken1111, Jim Groovester, Leafsnail, ToonyMan
Darkness3313: JanusTwoface, Pandarsenic
Pandarsenic: Jokerman-EXE
Vector: Org


  With forsaken1111's revelation, you turn your eyes towards Jokerman-EXE. After a bit of discussion a decision is reached. Jokerman-EXE must die!

  ToonyMan grabs up the pistol and points it at Jokerman, who sinks to the floor and closes his eyes. The crack of the gunshots echos in the room, and Jokerman slumps over. You watch the body carefully for signs that he might be a doppelganger, but the body remains human. Searching the body you find a police officer's badge. Perhaps he was a Heroic Guard despite his somewhat Kooky behavior after all.

  You ponder this as you head back to your rooms for the night.

---

Night 2 has fallen and will go until ~5pm Pacific Wednesday. Get your night actions in by then or you will do nothing. If you choose to do nothing, please let me know so I'm not waiting on you.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Night 2
Post by: Mephansteras on April 28, 2010, 04:30:33 pm

  The next day dawns, bright and clear. It almost seems as if the weather is mocking you.

  Looking around, you see that Jim Groovester, Leafsnail, and ToonyMan have all failed to show up. Strange.

  First you head off to Jim's bungalow. There you find the door open and a pool of blood on the ground, but no body. A trail of blood leads out of the door, but you decide to poke around a bit first. Strewn about you find various tricks of the magician's trade. Books on stage magic line the shelves, although you do find a few more interesting books on magic and Enchantment. Interesting, it seems he had similar taste in books to Mr.Person.

  Eventually you head back out and follow the trail of blood. It leads out into the jungle, with a pair of heavy footprints to go along with it. Following them along you find Jim's body lying in a bed of ferns. A single bullet hole to the head seems to be his only wound, although obviously enough to kill him with one shot. but why was he dropped here?

  Looking around you see scorch marks on a nearby tree, and one sharp-eyed individual finds a bullet shell. Searching the area you find more scorch marks on trees and holes burned through leaves. You also find a few more bullet shells and quite a few footprints and scrapes in the soil. Following these signs you eventually come across a strange scene underneath a large tree. A doppelganger lies on the ground, face up. One arm is badly burnt and half of its chest is gone. The clothes look similar to the ones that Leafsnail was wearing, though. You also find a gun lying a few feet away next to the tree.

  There is also another figure lying here. This one is obviously Alien in nature. Dark green blood is splashes over its front, obviously coming from the large rent in its throat. It is also wearing body armor of some sort that seems to have blocked a few bullets, and in the ground underneath it is a strange looking device. Might be a weapon of some sort, you're not sure. Energy crackles from it when someone tries to pick it up, however, and you decide that it's probably best to leave it alone for now.

  Does look like those two killed one another last night. Fortunately, really, even if poor Jim got caught up in it somehow.

  In any case you go off and take a look at their rooms.

  Leafsnail has a few pictures that show that he was a War Veteran, which would explain the gun, if not how he managed to get one onto this island. Maybe he picked it up here? In any case you don't find any evidence of who his fellow doppelganger might be, and you decide to head off to check out Toony's house.

  ToonyMan's hut is full of strange gadgets and equipment, including a very ominous looking robot of some sort. Touching anything seems to result in painful sparks, so you quickly decide not to try and take anything. One thing you do find is a board with pictures of all of you on it, with X marks through the dead. Webadict's picture was also circled, as was Leafsnail's. It seems he wanted to Exterminate all of you, though why is something you'll probably never know.

 Eventually you head back. There is still one more doppelganger out there, after all, and none of you wants to end up as lunch!

---

Day 3 has started and will go until ~5pm Pacific Friday

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 28, 2010, 04:38:06 pm

Couldn't you two have killed each other instead of killing me?

Bah.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Org on April 28, 2010, 04:43:34 pm

So Toony was Exterminator, killed Leafsnail who was a dopp, who killed Janus?
Confusing.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: ToonyMan on April 28, 2010, 04:46:55 pm

GOD DAMMIT WHY AM I SUCH A GOOD VIG AS EXTERMINATOR FUUUUU

At least I get to say nobody suspected me.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 28, 2010, 04:56:02 pm

Huh?  I'm still alive.  Org, seriously.  Pay attention.  This isn't the first time this game even, let alone in others.

As far as I can tell:
- Leafsnail killed Jim.
- Toony killed Leafsnail.
- Leafsnail's War Ven'ness killed Toony.

Thus we are down to only one dopp left (doesn't look like there are any more aliens, although I could be wrong).  Yay for us!

Living players:
- JanusTwoface
- Pandarsenic
- Org
- Vector
- forsaken1111
- Solifuge
- Darkness

For now Darkness3313, why don't you give us a nice long read on the situation while I look back at Jim, Toony, and Leafsnail's interactions with everyone.  Sooner rather than later if you don't mind.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Leafsnail on April 28, 2010, 04:56:43 pm

Falcon punch.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Org on April 28, 2010, 05:18:12 pm

Jim. Janus.
Jim. Janus. Jim. Janus.

Janus.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 28, 2010, 05:24:39 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 28, 2010, 04:46:55 pm

GOD DAMMIT WHY AM I SUCH A GOOD VIG AS EXTERMINATOR FUUUUU

At least I get to say nobody suspected me.

You fucker, you totally had us >:[

Also, Darkness3313.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Org on April 28, 2010, 05:26:47 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 28, 2010, 05:24:39 pm

Quote from: ToonyMan on April 28, 2010, 04:46:55 pm

GOD DAMMIT WHY AM I SUCH A GOOD VIG AS EXTERMINATOR FUUUUU

At least I get to say nobody suspected me.

You fucker, you totally had us >:[

Also, Darkness3313.

He had me.
Vektor is still scum.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 28, 2010, 05:30:43 pm

FWIW, I investigated Vector last night and got a result of Human.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Org on April 28, 2010, 05:38:47 pm

Meh.
I am not scum.
Is it MC time?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 28, 2010, 05:40:46 pm

Could be a Dopp Leader.

Also, In Theory!, you might have investigated to look for a kook to accuse and "clear" yourself. Of course, idle speculation doesn't get us much but you and Vector aren't quite clear yet.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Org on April 28, 2010, 05:42:29 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 28, 2010, 05:40:46 pm

Could be a Dopp Leader.

Also, In Theory!, you might have investigated to look for a kook to accuse and "clear" yourself. Of course, idle speculation doesn't get us much but you and Vector aren't quite clear yet.

I still think its Vek.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 28, 2010, 05:49:20 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 28, 2010, 05:40:46 pm

Also, In Theory!, you might have investigated to look for a kook to accuse and "clear" yourself. Of course, idle speculation doesn't get us much but you and Vector aren't quite clear yet.

Your theory depends on some amazing luck, namely me finding a kook my first shot.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 28, 2010, 05:54:50 pm

Quote from: forsaken1111 on April 28, 2010, 05:49:20 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 28, 2010, 05:40:46 pm

Also, In Theory!, you might have investigated to look for a kook to accuse and "clear" yourself. Of course, idle speculation doesn't get us much but you and Vector aren't quite clear yet.

Your theory depends on some amazing luck, namely me finding a kook my first shot.

Yes, but if you did find one on your first shot you'd no doubt take advantage of it.

I'm not saying this is the case, I'm just saying it could be.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 28, 2010, 06:02:07 pm

Yes, if I were a scum agent and I found a kook my first attempt I would undoubtedly take advantage of it, you're correct.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Solifuge on April 28, 2010, 11:29:41 pm

I demand further suspicion. Also, digging the crazy Ouroboros of kill-chaining last night. I wouldn't have anticipated it, but we have what we have.

Something tells me there is still a support alien out there. Also, and sorry to latch onto him single-mindedly like an angry wolverine here, but Forsaken was a high-priority target, by my reckoning... specifically as a self-outed Agent who outed a Kook. Why is it, then, that he wasn't taken down last night?

I might propose, for the sake of debate, a no-lynch to test this statement, followed by Forsaken "scanning" another target tonight. If we have no Dopple-snacking in the night and a legitimate scan, or if we have a dopple-kill, and Forsaken reports a claim that his target refutes, then it's plausible that Forsaken is a doppleganger. Otherwise, there's reason to believe he's clean, and we get another scan out of him. In this event, one would expect the remaining Doppleganger to kill him, since he's helping the town.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Vector on April 28, 2010, 11:31:19 pm

Yeah, I'm all for that.  No Lynch.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Solifuge on April 28, 2010, 11:31:51 pm

Addendum:

It would be a positive or neutral outcome, no matter what happens. At minimum, I would suggest that we not lynch him today.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 28, 2010, 11:34:56 pm

We can shoot Darkness3313 or have Forsaken scan him.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Vector on April 28, 2010, 11:37:43 pm

No, I'm sorry.  This is stupid.

Let's say he's the last dopp.  Then if he snacks someone, he can also run a 100% legitimate claim on anyone--because Solifuge, you should really stop declaring side-alien roles so obviously.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Solifuge on April 28, 2010, 11:41:50 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 28, 2010, 11:37:43 pm

No, I'm sorry.  This is stupid.

Let's say he's the last dopp.  Then if he snacks someone, he can also run a 100% legitimate claim on anyone--because Solifuge, you should really stop declaring side-alien roles so obviously.

I will have you know I did no such thing. I am a creature of pure duplicity, far beyond letting such things slip out between the lines... no sir/madam.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Vector on April 28, 2010, 11:46:36 pm

Let's lynch Mr. Darkness, and see about further whacky hijinks tomorrow.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 29, 2010, 01:16:49 am

Alright, Darkness today and we'll see what happens tomorrow.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 29, 2010, 11:12:55 am

Quote from: Org on April 28, 2010, 05:18:12 pm

Jim. Janus.
Jim. Janus. Jim. Janus.

Janus.

Um.  What?  They both have a J?  That's it?  Sigh...

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 28, 2010, 05:40:46 pm

Could be a Dopp Leader.

Also, In Theory!, you might have investigated to look for a kook to accuse and "clear" yourself. Of course, idle speculation doesn't get us much but you and Vector aren't quite clear yet.

And I thought I was paranoid.  It's possible, but I *hope* we don't have to worry about that.

Quote from: Org on April 28, 2010, 05:42:29 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 28, 2010, 05:40:46 pm

Could be a Dopp Leader.

Also, In Theory!, you might have investigated to look for a kook to accuse and "clear" yourself. Of course, idle speculation doesn't get us much but you and Vector aren't quite clear yet.

I still think its Vek.

Even through Forsaken says she's human?  There's only two possibilities that would lead to Vector being scum: She's a dopp leader (possible) or Forsaken is lying (lying about a dopp result on the last dopp would be *really* *really* stupid).

Quote from: Solifuge on April 28, 2010, 11:29:41 pm

I might propose, for the sake of debate, a no-lynch to test this statement, followed by Forsaken "scanning" another target tonight. If we have no Dopple-snacking in the night and a legitimate scan, or if we have a dopple-kill, and Forsaken reports a claim that his target refutes, then it's plausible that Forsaken is a doppleganger. Otherwise, there's reason to believe he's clean, and we get another scan out of him. In this event, one would expect the remaining Doppleganger to kill him, since he's helping the town.

At 7 players, doesn't it make more sense to lynch someone so we don't end with an even number of players?  I agree that lynching Forsaken is a bad plan at this point, but could we lynch someone (*cough* Darkness3313 *cough*) else?

In most games, it *might* make sense to lynch Forsaken and move the game along, but in Paranormal we have a lot of power roles about.  Every night gives us a decent amount more information to deal with.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Mephansteras on April 29, 2010, 01:30:10 pm

The Whiteboard
Darkness3313: forsaken1111, JanusTwoface, Pandarsenic, Vector

---

Day ends ~5pm Pacific Friday

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Solifuge on April 29, 2010, 02:02:32 pm

Though I think we just have a case of lurky laziness with Mr. Darkness, and our nights have been relatively short... doesn't seem to match up.

Meta aside, it's a lurker lynch, which I can get behind. Before I can hope aboard the Lynchburg Express, though, I need to do some snooping. BRB, ladies and/or gents.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Org on April 29, 2010, 03:26:07 pm

Meh. Needs a prod, Dark does.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Solifuge on April 29, 2010, 10:02:43 pm

Snooping session concluded. Org it is.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Vector on April 29, 2010, 10:05:53 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 29, 2010, 10:02:43 pm

Snooping session concluded. Org it is.

Care to give the rest of us any sort of explanation?  I mean, if he's the scum, then it'd be nice to know why you "know" this.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Mephansteras on April 29, 2010, 10:32:20 pm

  JanusTwoFace gets a glazed expression on his face. "Yeah...let's just lynch Org. That sounds great...."

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 29, 2010, 10:46:20 pm

o_o;

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 29, 2010, 11:05:28 pm

Huh.  Ok, I was wrong...

I was Mind Controlled last night and redirected to target Vector.  Upon waking this morning and seeing the carnage, I thought that it must have been ToonyMan (he still had a medium slot unaccounted for) and I asked if a Mind Control Ray worked from beyond the grave.  Turns out it doesn't, so I thought it didn't matter anymore. 

But it wasn't Toony, so that means that we either have a Cutting Edge Scientist or another Alien (not an operative, they don't get tech) who decided to mess with me.  For today at least, whoever this mysterious person is controls my vote.  >:

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Solifuge on April 29, 2010, 11:06:15 pm

Dance, puppet, dance!

Quote from: Vector on April 29, 2010, 10:05:53 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 29, 2010, 10:02:43 pm

Snooping session concluded. Org it is.

Care to give the rest of us any sort of explanation?  I mean, if he's the scum, then it'd be nice to know why you "know" this.

I fully intend to... I needed to wait for that last bit to work, though. As you can see, Janus is under my control... I am the Mad Scientist, and you have born witness to my Mind Control Ray! Marvel at it! MuahaHahaha! Aha! Ha!

Now, to unveil my scheme. The players, as I know them:

* Solifuge - Cutting-Edge Scientist, and self.
* Darkness3313 - Not a likely Dopple due to brevity of the night phase. Also utterly inactive in the face of an impending lynch, which is nonsense for the last remaining Doppleganger.
* JanusTwoface - Mind-Controlled, and not a Doppleganger, as he used a Psychic Warden ability on Vector last night rather than a night-kill. Also did not lie about his target, while not knowing that I was the one who picked his target.
* forsaken1111 - Agent, with positive testimony to back him up. Not 100%, but a fair bet at Town, considering his reasonable suspicion, scum-hunting, and pro-town behavior.

This leaves:
* Vector - According to her own testimony, was roleblocked last night at the behest of my temporary subject, Janus.
* Org - Being extra Org-ish. Forgetting blatant and simple details, and making a point of announcing his ignorance to everyone. Strikes me as trying too hard to play "poorly".
* Pandarsenic - Reasonably suspicious of things, specifically Forsaken's Agenthood. Lurky and passively aggressive, though.

Of the three, my best bet resides with Org at present. With a lynch, a Psychic Block, we have 2/3 chances to hit scum today and tonight, and still get another day if we mess up.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 29, 2010, 11:23:37 pm

Are we going to massclaim?

Forsaken is highly unlikely to be a Dopp (not certain but unlikely). Vector, Soli, and Janus are all unable to have performed the kill.


okay, hold up.

Rereading the flavor suggested that Jim was killed by a VIGILANTE, not a Doppelganger. Was he?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 29, 2010, 11:37:17 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 29, 2010, 11:23:37 pm

Rereading the flavor suggested that Jim was killed by a VIGILANTE, not a Doppelganger. Was he?

The bullet is odd, but I think that particular flavor is from Leafsnail being a War Vet.  The body was dragged off, which isn't something I'd expect a Vigilante to do.  I still think Leafsnail killed Jim and Toony killed Leafsnail (and was killed as well in turn).

I think I'm in favor of a mass claim, but I want to check something with Solifuge first.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Solifuge on April 29, 2010, 11:45:57 pm

I assume that the Trifecta of Death yesterday was due to:

Toony (Alien Exterminator) targeting Leafsnail (Dopple War Vet), Leafsnail Dopple-killing Jim (Enchanter), and then Leafsnail's counter-kill proc'd on Toony's extermination. Enchanters don't target players, so they can't be counter-killed by a War Vet.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 29, 2010, 11:51:13 pm

Huh.  That looks oddly like what I posted just after the the day started and again just before yours. :P (/sarcasm)

I should have been asleep an hour ago :(  Curse you suddenly interesting mafia games!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 29, 2010, 11:53:13 pm

Okay, I have an idea.

Let's reread all the posts by dead dopps and see who's implicated by them?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Vector on April 30, 2010, 01:36:50 am

Sounds like a plan.  First off, I'll switch my vote to Org, but I'll have to look over the posts tomorrow morning.

I'm not so sure about the massclaim's utility at this point.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Org on April 30, 2010, 06:17:52 am

Quote from: Vector on April 30, 2010, 01:36:50 am

Sounds like a plan.  First off, I'll switch my vote to Org, but I'll have to look over the posts tomorrow morning.

I'm not so sure about the massclaim's utility at this point.

what?
Vector. What is this?
Also I am psychic warden.
Or whatever its name is. Blocker guy

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Solifuge on April 30, 2010, 07:58:03 am

Unvote. Janus clarified that he is not the Psychic Warden, so Org's story matches up.

I'd bring the logical procession over to Pandarsenic now. And also will deliver the following plan.
Org, tonight you can target one of the remaining suspects, and we will see what happens.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 30, 2010, 09:47:57 am

Spoiler: Interactions with Leafsnail (click to show/hide)

Searched for 'leaf', quick(ish) scan.  I've probably missed something.

Day 1:
- Random votes webadict asking if Lynch All Lurkers is shiny
- RedWarrior responds to Leafsnail (without being provoked) about the question to webadict[/b]
- Leafsnil wants clarification in the main thread from Mr.Person and Solifuge here (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1167621#msg1167621)
- Jim pushes leafsnail over policy lynch
- Attacks Solifuge over odd playstyle
- Attacks Jim for voting Toony for similar reasons Toony was voting Org (Jim repsons w
- Claims forsaken is being over mild
- Toony makes early sumteam
- Makes the time since last post chart
- Jim and Leafsnail fight
- Jokerman comments on the fight
- Vector comments on the comments on the fight
- Mr.Person double FOSs Leafsnail (for time list + including Eduren)
- I comment on there being better data to collect
- Leafsnail commonents on Pandarsenic's vote switch and unvotes Kashyyk on very slim evidence
- Pandarsenic says that has been addressed
- Leafsnail complains about lurkers, revotes Kashyyk
- Comments on Jim, RedWarrior, and Org absences
- Leafsnail backs off again when he noticies that Kashyyk is being replaced
- Leafsnail says Jokerman is obvscum

Day 2:
- Continues to vote Jokerman
- I ask for an actual reason for the vote
- ToonyMan joins the Jokerman vote without a reason (then gives a reason a post later)
- Vector names Leafsnail as potential Exterminator
- Still pushes on Jokerman
- Says forsaken is covering his ass to much
- Says Vector's analysis of Exterminators is interesting, thinks Toony, me, forsaken, and Org are all likely possibilities
- Attacks Pandarsenic for being hypocritical (mild attacks)
- Jim says that Leafsnail's abandonded the Lynch All Lurkers platform
- Jim's post about suspiciously specific denial, response is [url=http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1200553#msg1200553]here (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1199735#msg1199735)

Day 3:
- Leafsnail wakes up dead (or rather doesn't)

Comments:
- Two comments day 1 and a mild attack on Pandarsenic day 2, seems a little slim.
- Defends Org (ish) when Toony is voting him, comments on his absence later, adds Org to list of possible Exterminators
- No interactions with Vector day 1, adds to her Exterminator list day 2.
- Claims forsaken is overly mild day 1, that's it
- Wants clarification from Solifuge during the very first part of day 1, nothing more
- Swaps back and forth on Kashyyk/Darkness, suprisingly much interaction

Really, there aren't many interactions.  The strongest connection, I'd say is Kashyyk/Darkness.  With how good of shape we're in right now, that's plenty for me to keep my vote.

Spoiler: The bit I did earlier on RedWarrior (click to show/hide)

Quote from: JanusTwoface on April 22, 2010, 05:42:21 pm

For reference, here's the voting record I have on RedWarrior0:

Reply #185 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1170153#msg1170153) - webadict for first "more later" post
Reply #325 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1177062#msg1177062) - me for no "more later" after 200ish posts
Reply #418 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1181227#msg1181227) - Pandarsenic "LYNCH ALL LURKERS"
Reply #421 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1181282#msg1181282) - forsaken votes but seems defensive about it
Reply #453 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1182003#msg1182003) - Mr.Person for role fishing
Reply #459 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1182337#msg1182337) - Vector seemingly based on Pardarsenic's posts
Reply #472 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1183065#msg1183065) - Jim Groovester for bandwagon -> WIFOM post

Actually, no-one ever unvoted him.  That's kind of interesting.

The other way around, RedWarrior's votes:

Reply #67 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1166633#msg1166633) - Vector, looks like RVS
Reply #179 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1169958#msg1169958) - unvote, this is the first "post more" post

Makes me suspicious of Vector if anything.  Common enough for newer scum to vote a partner during RVS.  Not too suspicious though. 

Comments:
- Myself, Pandarsenic, Forsaken1111, and Vector vote for him (in that order)
- RedWarrior's only vote was on Vector
- Kashyyk/Darkness has no interaction, but that's not suprising
- Neither Org nor Solifuge were ever voting for or being voted for by RedWarrior

Vectors was the latest on the vote pile and the only one RedWarrior voted for, which is suspicious.  Org and Solifuge specifically didn't join the bandwagon (and had few interactions with RedWarrior0 at all).

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Mephansteras on April 30, 2010, 11:33:45 am

The Whiteboard
Darkness3313: forsaken1111, Pandarsenic
Org: JanusTwoface, Vector
Pandarsenic: Solifuge

---

Day 3 ends ~5pm Pacific Today

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 30, 2010, 11:36:18 am

I'm pretty sure that I'm still voting Darkness3313 (via here (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1206200#msg1206200)).  If not, now I am.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Mephansteras on April 30, 2010, 11:38:07 am

  JanusTwoFace grimaces. "Uggg. No, no, I...I...have to keep voting Org. He smells BAD!!!!"

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 30, 2010, 11:40:33 am

Oh yeah.  I don't have a vote today. >:(

(Sorry Meph)

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Solifuge on April 30, 2010, 12:15:17 pm

Alright, alright, I'll relinquish my control over your free will, by which I mean I'll now force you to vote as you would hav eanyway!

Your wish is now your command! Muahah! Haa-ack *cough cough* ehem.

Ha.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Mephansteras on April 30, 2010, 12:20:27 pm

JanusTwoFace twitches again. "Nooo! I want to vote for Darkness3313! I want to lynch him!"

---

As a sidenote, I find JanusTwoFace being mind-controlled absurdly funny for some reason.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Solifuge on April 30, 2010, 12:43:13 pm

Me too. Pity I can't just keep him dangling on a string, and bat him around morbidly for awhile. Alas, the sacrifices I must make for the rest of you.

Even so, Mind Control Rays definitely get an A+ (for awesomeness) from me. Kinda glad I didn't go with something lame and strategically sound like a Body Double.

Guys and gals, once we make it through this, be sure to buy the new SoliTech Mind Control Device. You wont be able to be dissapointed!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Vector on April 30, 2010, 02:01:10 pm

Hmmkay... Pandarsenic is next, yes?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Solifuge on April 30, 2010, 02:22:56 pm

Well, usually the person who is next is who you are most suspicious of. Pretty sure Dark is just inactive Town, since the last scum usually fights for their life. I don't have any case in support of him though, and he's not helping anyone by lurking, so its as good as any.

Sticking with my suspicions, nevertheless. Even so, Dark, if you'd like to come back and declare your role though, it might help the Town!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Org on April 30, 2010, 03:18:11 pm

My targets were Vector.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Solifuge on April 30, 2010, 03:46:33 pm

Ermm... every night?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Org on April 30, 2010, 04:06:09 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 30, 2010, 03:46:33 pm

Ermm... every night?

Yes.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 30, 2010, 04:30:55 pm

I stay on Darkness3313 because by doing absolutely nothing he got us off of him which makes no sense at all.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 30, 2010, 04:46:09 pm

Quote from: Mephansteras on April 30, 2010, 12:20:27 pm

As a sidenote, I find JanusTwoFace being mind-controlled absurdly funny for some reason.

Also great fun when I forgot and tried to change my vote.  Which essentially amounted to me arguing with myself.  :P

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 30, 2010, 04:30:55 pm

I stay on Darkness3313 because by doing absolutely nothing he got us off of him which makes no sense at all.

This.  And we have at least three (power-role information heavy) lynches before we can lose (unless there's another Alien about, which I doubt).  Even if it looks like Pandarsenic trying to save himself, there's always tomorrow for his lynch.

Quote from: Org on April 30, 2010, 04:06:09 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 30, 2010, 03:46:33 pm

Ermm... every night?

Yes.

For future reference it makes more sense (at least to me) to target someone different each night as a role-blocker.  That way, you're more likely to hit the scum doing the killing (which is easy to tell if there's no night kill and no-one else says anything).  But that could just be me.  As it is, it seems a fair bit suspicious.  We'll see what everyone thinks after another night though.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Vector on April 30, 2010, 04:49:15 pm

Quote from: Org on April 30, 2010, 04:06:09 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 30, 2010, 03:46:33 pm

Ermm... every night?

Yes.

Did anything odd happen to you N1, Org?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 30, 2010, 05:06:08 pm

Quick thought: If Leafy hadn't been Exterminated, today would be lylo with one vote not being controlled by its user, wouldn't it...?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Solifuge on April 30, 2010, 06:19:42 pm

Quote from: Vector on April 30, 2010, 04:49:15 pm

Quote from: Org on April 30, 2010, 04:06:09 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 30, 2010, 03:46:33 pm

Ermm... every night?

Yes.

Did anything odd happen to you N1, Org?

I must say, I am curious as well. Is this what I believe it is?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Vector on April 30, 2010, 06:29:25 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on April 30, 2010, 06:19:42 pm

I must say, I am curious as well. Is this what I believe it is?

What, precisely, do you believe it is?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Org on April 30, 2010, 08:12:47 pm

Woops.
Jim then Vector.
Must be all these games with vec being scum, you know.
Confusing me.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 3 is a bit crispy and bullet-ridden
Post by: Mephansteras on April 30, 2010, 09:50:55 pm

The Whiteboard
Darkness3313: forsaken1111, JanusTwoface, Pandarsenic
Org: Vector
Pandarsenic: Solifuge


  Darkness3313 seems oddly uncaring as JanusTwoFace picks up the gun and put it to his head. You all flinch as the shot blasts brains and blood across the room.

  After a few moments, however, it is obvious that Darkness was simply a normal human who had given up on life. Searching his quarters you find schematics for some sort of surveillance robot. His records indicate that it was destroyed at some point, however. Perhaps the destruction of his life's work caused his depression? Whatever the reason, you determine that he was an Intelligence Scientist of some renown before this.

  In any case the monster is still out there, and you need to get sleep.

  You spit up and head off for your homes, and what little rest you might be able to find.

---

Day 3 has ended. Send in your night actions!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Night 3
Post by: Mephansteras on May 03, 2010, 01:35:43 pm

  You gather once again, the large room feeling kind of empty with so few of you left.

  Forsaken1111 fails to show up today, however, and that realization makes the room seems even more empty than it did before.

  Heading off to his hut you find the front door open. Blood is splashed across the kitchen, and his severed head sits with eyes open upon the countertop atop a pile of gnawed bones. His FBI badge is there as well, floating on a pool of blood. It is fairly obvious what did this to him.

  Now, however, you need to find the last doppelganger before it does the same to you.

---

Day 4 has started, and will go until ~5pm Pacific Wednesday

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Solifuge on May 03, 2010, 01:54:48 pm

Congrats on mucking with the plan, all.

So, Org, need I ask who you targetted last night? *glares*

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Vector on May 03, 2010, 02:13:45 pm

Pandarsenic.  You've been lurking so hard it hurts, and I can hardly believe you're playing the game anymore.  Get out here and hang.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Org on May 03, 2010, 03:19:47 pm

Okay, so Soli wasnt scum....  :(

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Solifuge on May 03, 2010, 03:23:42 pm

99% on this, but until Janus chimes in, Org and I are verifiably not scum.

I motion for a mass claim. All in favor, claim at will. All against, please attach a noose to your neck to save us the effort.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Org on May 03, 2010, 03:24:58 pm

Psychic Blocker guy.
Psychic Warden?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Vector on May 03, 2010, 04:25:16 pm

I'm a guardian.

N1: Protected ToonyMan (yeah, I know)
N2: Protected Forsaken1111
N3: Protected Solifuge

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: forsaken1111 on May 03, 2010, 06:22:09 pm

Death post:

Well it had to happen eventually. Stay the course town, we have this in the bag.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Org on May 03, 2010, 06:34:41 pm

So a day after this is left if we miss.
Thats good.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 03, 2010, 07:49:04 pm

I'm a Vengeful Guard.

N1: Guarded Vector
N2: Solifuge redirected me to guard Vector again
N3: Guarded Org on Solifuge's request

As far as I can figure, last night Org Warded Solifuge which clears both of them and Forsaken's townitude means that Vector is either town or a Dopp Leader (with the former more likely).  Which means that Pandarsenic must be scum.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Org on May 03, 2010, 07:49:54 pm

Vector is still scum.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Solifuge on May 03, 2010, 07:52:34 pm

Vector, please elucidate us as to your logic, if you would. Knowing that Forsaken was a high-priority player (IE the Agent) why did you choose to defend me (A spent power-role, and unconfirmed townie) instead of him?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Org on May 03, 2010, 07:53:18 pm

And here is why he is scum.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Solifuge on May 03, 2010, 07:56:46 pm

Well, either way... we have strategic options available which give us a pretty large chance for victory here, I'm pretty sure.

Awaiting Pandar's claim.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 03, 2010, 08:10:08 pm

War Veteran.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 03, 2010, 08:12:03 pm

And what the fuck? Vector claims guardian who didn't protect the Agent? Bullshit.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Org on May 03, 2010, 08:14:39 pm

HEY LOOK INTERESTING THAT YOU BUDDU WITH ME

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 03, 2010, 08:23:21 pm

True fact: You can just lynch Vector, then, supposing the game were not to end:

Org blocks Janus, Janus guards Soli, Soli blocks me (or whatever).

Kill happens, one of the Wardens has to be scum.
If not, it could be any of the four remaining but it won't be because Vector is scum.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Vector on May 03, 2010, 09:05:10 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on May 03, 2010, 07:52:34 pm

Vector, please elucidate us as to your logic, if you would. Knowing that Forsaken was a high-priority player (IE the Agent) why did you choose to defend me (A spent power-role, and unconfirmed townie) instead of him?

You seem to have some huge amount of information, most of which we are not privy to.  Furthermore, I'm nearly certain you're town.  Even more importantly, at the end of the day I didn't know Forsaken was confirmed (if this was covered somehow, I missed it) and I'd been getting a scum read off him previously.

Basically, I consider the large repository of information you currently control far, far more important than one more inspection from a scummy agent in a game which may contain a dopp leader.  There was too much WIFOM there, and you're sitting on reams and reams of data that we need to win.

Quote from: Org on May 03, 2010, 07:53:18 pm

And here is why he is scum.

I'm a chick.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Org on May 03, 2010, 09:08:03 pm

....

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 03, 2010, 09:09:59 pm

Soooooo are we lynching Vector yet?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Solifuge on May 03, 2010, 10:41:01 pm

Quote from: Vector on May 03, 2010, 09:05:10 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on May 03, 2010, 07:52:34 pm

Vector, please elucidate us as to your logic, if you would. Knowing that Forsaken was a high-priority player (IE the Agent) why did you choose to defend me (A spent power-role, and unconfirmed townie) instead of him?

You seem to have some huge amount of information, most of which we are not privy to.  Furthermore, I'm nearly certain you're town.  Even more importantly, at the end of the day I didn't know Forsaken was confirmed (if this was covered somehow, I missed it) and I'd been getting a scum read off him previously.

Basically, I consider the large repository of information you currently control far, far more important than one more inspection from a scummy agent in a game which may contain a dopp leader.  There was too much WIFOM there, and you're sitting on reams and reams of data that we need to win.

I find it odd that, not but last night, you made a point of telling me how you didn't trust me... yet that was the night which you claim to have made this decision that I was most certainly town, and must be protected above the Agent... the same agent who claimed you as Town? Also, by "reams and reams of information", I have to assume you meant the singular fact that I knew I had forced Janus to target you last night, and bluffed like the dickens? A bluff which, as of last night, you knew to be a bluff?

I know you're not an imperceptive person, Vector... so I find this highly uncharacteristic. I hate to admit it, but the flattery almost helps... not quite, though. :3

Anywho, I could see good results coming from a lynch, or a no-lynch at present though. Thoughts, all?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 03, 2010, 10:47:27 pm

My guess: Vector, knowing Forsaken1111 was legit, decided to knock him out in the interest of "HEY EVERYONE LOOK HE'S A SANE COP AND CALLED ME TOWN"

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Vector on May 03, 2010, 10:49:40 pm

WAIT

WAIT YOU WERE BLUFFING

AUGH.

What's the good of a no-lynch, by the way?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Solifuge on May 03, 2010, 10:58:16 pm

The good of a no-lynch is that we have a Psychic Warden who has cleared or tested most players. Also, we have a Kills-The-Attacker Bodyguard, a War Veteran, and a Guardian. Between all of these, we can invent several scenarios that could determine the validity of everyones claims. I would, but I'm feeling lazy and irritable this evening.

Also...

Quote from: Vector on May 03, 2010, 10:49:40 pm

WAIT

WAIT YOU WERE BLUFFING

AUGH.

What's the good of a no-lynch, by the way?

...seriously? I tried bluffing you on N1, and you were coy to it from the first moment. We are now to believe that your brain turns to Swiss Cheese under the light of Day? Unless you've got Mad Cow, I don't buy it.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Solifuge on May 04, 2010, 09:26:31 am

<.< alright, get up and off your arses. I have devised a plan which CANNOT FAIL. By which I mean it's highly experimental, and has never before been tested. So it's basically the same thing.

First, we must decide on a lynch target. I am skeptical of Vector right now, though everyone but Org is too recalcitrant to voice suspicions, which is pretty bad. I'm open to suggestions, and the plan works no matter who we lynch (so long as it isn't me... <.<)

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 04, 2010, 09:33:44 am

I'm still leaning towards Pandarsenic, but turns out you were bluffing so I don't actually have any direct evidence on that.  And Vector has been acting far more questionably today than she had been.

And if turns out that Vector is town, we can lynch Pandarsenic tomorrow.

unvote, vote Vector

PSEUDO-EDIT:  A plan?  Shiny.  Care to share?  (or does that make it ineffective?)

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Org on May 04, 2010, 09:42:11 am

Yeah, sorry bout not blocking pandar, you seemed so scummy when you pmed me.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Mephansteras on May 04, 2010, 11:40:16 am

The Whiteboard
Pandarsenic: Vector
Vector: JanusTwoface, Org, Pandarsenic, Solifuge

---

Day 4 ends ~5pm Pacific Wednesday

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Vector on May 04, 2010, 01:03:10 pm

I'm town.  I'm all right with getting lynched, but you guys had better psychic warden the hell out of Pandarsenic (I'm guessing he's an adv. dopp or mad scientist of the killbot variety).

I just... augh.  I'm town.  He picked PWV for the WIFOM, so that people would be afraid to night action him and BLAH BLAH BLAH.  Yeah, I made a stupid mistake, and yeah, I didn't catch one of the bluffs going on--but to be honest, I didn't catch the other ones until I fell for them and rethought.

Scratch what I said above about being fine with being lynched.  I'm fine with a lynching as long as you guys have a foolproof plan to deal with Pandarsenic.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Solifuge on May 04, 2010, 01:26:54 pm

The War Vet thing is a pretty sensible falseclaim. Guardian covers you pretty well too, and leaves no trail, so it's also a pretty solid falseclaim.

Anyway, the plan is foolish_^^proof, but I do want to lynch the doppleganger sooner than relying on a defensive strategy to get us through to tomorrow. Also, don't discount that there's still a reasonable possibility that Janus is scum, though if so he's covering it up darned well.

Unvote for now, while I review.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Org on May 04, 2010, 03:32:47 pm

Nah, Vek is scumzors.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 04, 2010, 10:07:44 pm

Y'know, once we lynch Vector, assuming the game were not to end (I'm confident it will but others are not) and all players are equally likely to be Dopps, we can just have each Warden remaining block each non-Warden remaining and no-lynch each day until the Dopp is forced to kill by the No Happy Endings Rule. If no kill occurs, one of the nonwardens must be the Dopp. If a kill occurs, the Warden!Dopp is forced to reveal himself by his kill choice.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Org on May 04, 2010, 10:21:29 pm

If vek isnt scum ill block panar

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 04, 2010, 10:26:09 pm

Sure.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Org on May 04, 2010, 10:26:51 pm

Yep

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Solifuge on May 05, 2010, 09:32:59 am

Quote from: Org on May 04, 2010, 10:21:29 pm

If vek isnt scum ill block panar

Quote from: Pandarsenic on May 04, 2010, 10:26:09 pm

Sure.

Pandar, I love how you just go along with this, without a moment's hesitation or debate. Your suspicious, quiet aggreability aside, Org targetting you carries potential problems, which I'll ask Mephansteras to clarify (if he would be so kind?) Given current role asumptions:

1) If a Psychic Warden targets a War Veteran, will the Warden be counter-killed, or does it not trigger since he doesn't physically visit the War Vet?

2) Would the Psychic Warden's power suppress the War Veterans ability to counterkill for the night? This would leave you open to a nightkill, which would be bad.

Also, for the time being  Pandarsenic

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Mephansteras on May 05, 2010, 11:16:42 am

A Psychic character does not leave the house to use their ability, so they are safe from a War Vet's retaliation.

A blocked War Vet loses their ability to fight back.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Solifuge on May 05, 2010, 11:23:58 am

Needless to say, Mr. Pandar, it makes no sense to want to have your ability supressed for the night, and also waste Org's chance to peg the dopple. Town would not want Org to target them, especially in your case, since it would also be the only way you would be killed.

Needless to say, you're probably our final fiend. And if not at the end of the day, I'd ask that players contact me, so we can enact Ze Strategy, and coordinate our actions through me.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 05, 2010, 12:07:12 pm

You don't get it, do you?

Soli blocks Janus who guards Soli
Org blocks me

Org dies, Soli did it
Soli dies, Org did it
Janus dies, I should still be informed whether I was blocked or not; I can report which Warden is scum in the morning.
I die, Soli has to have done it because if Org did it he would die.

If nobody dies, it's one of me or Soli. But it won't be, 'cause it's Vector.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Solifuge on May 05, 2010, 12:19:49 pm

Newsflash #1) I can't block. I'm a spent Mad Scientist, who mind-controlled Janus two nights ago.

Newsflash #2) I couldn't be the last doppleganager, as I was under lockdown by Org yesterday.

Newsflash #3) Janus is not a Warden. Though I mind-controlled Janus to target Vector, and Vector reported being Psy-Blocked, Org is the one that Psy-blocked Vector. Janus is a Bodyguard, and instead protected Vector.

---

Speaking of which... Vector, did you really get targetted by Org every night, with the exception of one? Because that's just nutters.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Solifuge on May 05, 2010, 12:38:27 pm

D-D-D-D-DOUBLE POSTER:

I'm going to be busy at class for most of the evening (in 3 hours or so). Pandarsenic is our most likely scum, and if he actually was a Town War Vet, it would mess with the plan. If somehow this is incorrect, drop me a PM before choosing a Night Action, and I'll coordinate things with my Huge Ammount Of Information (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1220818#msg1220818)... and possibly SCIENCE! which I intend to blind you with.

[/]-[/]
 OoooO

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Vector on May 05, 2010, 12:42:45 pm

I have no idea.  The only night I actually found myself being blocked was N2.  On the other two, it said that I walked over and nothing happened to the person in question.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Solifuge on May 05, 2010, 12:49:42 pm

...and Org, what do you have to report? You seemed confused about it before, since you corrected yourself once.

Who were your targets, on a night-by-night basis?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Solifuge on May 05, 2010, 01:15:56 pm

NVM Org. Also, yet another Doublepost (Rejoice!):

Vector: Guardian

Quote

N1: Protected ToonyMan (yeah, I know)
N2: Protected Forsaken1111
N3: Protected Solifuge

Vector's list of targets seems to make sense, and lines up with how players appeared to be useful/trustworthy to the town, and thus who were likely to be killed. It's a very clean list, especially given a retrospective perspective. It can't be verified, though.

Janus: Vengeful Guard

Quote

N1: Guarded Vector
N2: Solifuge redirected me to guard Vector again
N3: Guarded Org on Solifuge's request

I've mucked with Janus' targets enough to make his data null at best. He did comply.

Org: Psychic Warden

Quote

N1: Roleblocked Jim Groovesterstar
N2: Roleblocked Vector
N3: Roleblocked Solifuge

Org is Org, and also Sherlock Holmian. Possibly Moriorgrty. Investigate further... nevertheless, his targets can attest that they were targetted according to the chart too.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 05, 2010, 01:38:48 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on May 05, 2010, 12:07:12 pm

You don't get it, do you?

Soli blocks Janus who guards Soli
Org blocks me

Org dies, Soli did it
Soli dies, Org did it
Janus dies, I should still be informed whether I was blocked or not; I can report which Warden is scum in the morning.
I die, Soli has to have done it because if Org did it he would die.

If nobody dies, it's one of me or Soli. But it won't be, 'cause it's Vector.

You really aren't paying attention are you?  (Yes, I know, midterms.  In May? That sucks.)

Same information as Solifuge's newsflashes in a nice easy list:
JanusTwoface - Vengeful Guard
Org - Psychic Warden
Pandarsenic - War Vet
Solifuge - Intelligence Scientist Vanilla now
Vector - Guardian

---

Right now Org is clear and Solifuge is basically clear via Org.  Vector-scum has to be a Dopp Leader to have fooled Forsaken's scan.  If we lynch Vector today, the game either ends or we have one more day.

Then tonight Org and I have potential choices.  If Org wardens Pandarsenic, than he is unprotected.  But if he's the last scum than he cannot make the night kill and we lynch him tomorrow.  I really wouldn't have anyone to protect.

On the other hand, if Org wardens me, Pandarsenic is free to kill anyone.  So we still know who the scum is, we just have one less townie.

So, it doesn't really matter who Org wardens as long as he does warden and who I guard doesn't seem to matter unless something goes horribly wrong.  As far as horribly wrong could be: Advanced Dopp.  At this point, I doubt it, because I'd have guessed it would have been used right after the Toony/Leafsnail/Jim massacre.  If that's the case, Org had better choose correctly.

Does that seem right to you?  (/potentially obscure Firefly reference)

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Vector on May 05, 2010, 02:20:56 pm

This is after Org said he roleblocked me N1 and N2?  What the hell is this bullshit?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 05, 2010, 02:30:07 pm

Um.  No.  Look at Solifuge's post right before mine (based on this post of Org's):

Quote from: Org on April 30, 2010, 08:12:47 pm

Woops.
Jim then Vector.
Must be all these games with vec being scum, you know.
Confusing me.

Org only blocked you night 2.  The night Leafsnail was the Dopp's killer and imploded on ToonyMan.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Solifuge on May 05, 2010, 02:37:23 pm

Quote from: Vector on May 05, 2010, 02:20:56 pm

This is after Org said he roleblocked me N1 and N2?  What the hell is this bullshit?

I'm telling you, MoriOrgity is on the loose! Someone get to Scotland Yard, and fetch the InvestOrgators!

Seriously though, he did correct himself. If I may be so bold as to peer into the mind of the Org, he was probably a bit confused, and answered "Who have you used your power on so far?" as "Who did you target last night?", IE you, Vector.

Besides, if he isn't who he says he is, and doesn't Psy-Block, then we'll know he didn't target anyone, so no matter what he wouldn't get very far being scum.

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Quote from: JanusTwoface on May 05, 2010, 02:30:07 pm

Org only blocked you night 2.  The night Leafsnail was the Dopp's killer and imploded on ToonyMan.

I'm wondering if Pandarsenic might have been someone's target, since one of the dead appeared to have been War Veteren-ed in the Brainppan.

Pandar, did you get any flavor to the affect that you fought someone off?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 05, 2010, 04:52:38 pm

Oh hey I'm retarded Soli isn't a Warden
Vector is still the Dopp

Solifuge, at various bulletpoints (harhar) I thought I might have been in one of those entanglements but I received no PMs. Nobody has targeted me thus far.

Also, remind me - does being cleared of the kill on any night but the night where there's only one Dopp really have ANY meaning since another Dopp could've done it?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Mephansteras on May 05, 2010, 04:55:22 pm

The Whiteboard
Pandarsenic: Solifuge, Vector
Vector: JanusTwoface, Org, Pandarsenic

---

Day ends ~5pm Pacific Today

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 4 is grisly
Post by: Mephansteras on May 05, 2010, 07:07:03 pm

After much wrangling and plotting it is agreed that Vector will die.

She grimaces, but does not flinch as the gun is held to her head.

"Just remember my words, tomorrow." She says, eyes fixed forward.

There is a sharp crack, a splatter of blood, and she lies dead on the floor. You stare at the body, watching the rivulet of blood slowly creep away from the body. Eventually, however, you have to concede that she was human. Checking her pockets reveals a Police Badge. Seems she was an honest Guardian after all.

And now she cannot protect you, and the doppelganger is still among you. Time is running out.

You head off to your rooms. Some to work, some to plot, and others to pray they live to see the dawn.



Day 4 is over. Send in your night actions!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Night 4
Post by: Mephansteras on May 06, 2010, 12:00:07 pm

  You are all pleasantly surprised to see that no one has gone missing in the night. There is still a doppelganger to discover, however.

---

Day 5 has started. It will go until ~5pm Pacific Friday

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Solifuge on May 06, 2010, 12:54:16 pm

Aha! I knew it! Mephansteras was the Doppleganger all along!

No, but seriously. Org basically spewed illogical vomitus all over the plan, and now it is sullied and inspires nausea.

Also, it was ruined.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Solifuge on May 06, 2010, 12:58:59 pm

Also also, Org smells like poo, because he is a poo-head.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Org on May 06, 2010, 01:06:39 pm

No u.
Something happened, blocked Janus, no dead people.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 06, 2010, 01:36:23 pm

Your point?  I did my best to protect you last night.

I'm guessing that Pandarsenic none'd on the idea that you'd do exactly what you did. 

With Vector town, than it has to be Pandarsenic.  Unless I miscalculated crazy much somewhere.  I doubt it.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Org on May 06, 2010, 03:26:10 pm

Actually, my action us weird...
As expected, Janus?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 06, 2010, 03:37:48 pm

Um.  What?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Org on May 06, 2010, 04:06:55 pm

Quote from: JanusTwoface on May 06, 2010, 03:37:48 pm

Um.  What?

Is.
Sorry.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 06, 2010, 05:04:30 pm

What are you talking about?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Org on May 06, 2010, 05:31:03 pm

Well, my block seems to have failed.
My idea is that it might be a mind shield.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 06, 2010, 06:06:00 pm

So you didn't actually block me, there was no kill, and you still think I'm scum?

I really did protect you last night, which only accidently worked it turns out. I had to check my PM to make sure I actually did have a mind shield.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Org on May 06, 2010, 06:42:32 pm

My block failed.
So maybe Soli is lying?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 06, 2010, 08:15:02 pm

Everyone, hold up and unvote until Solifuge can explain if somebody MUST be scum. -.-

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Solifuge on May 07, 2010, 01:20:39 am

Okay Org... WTF?

You got the memo about the plan last night, and I explained to you how not following the plan could very likely get you killed, and yet you changed it anyway and "blocked" the bodyguard... and now you claim that your ability failed, and that I'm somehow scum because of it? What the hell were and are you thinking? I'm beginning to question whether you're scum or not, as well as not having you lynched earlier in the game. <_<;

So yeah. Org, clarify what the hell happened, and stop rewriting your stories. Was your role blocked, or did it fail to affect your target? I don't believe you have it in you to be this duplicitous, but honestly... get your story straight.

---

Also guys, Mephansteras included, I'm going to be leaving town on tomorrow night through Monday morning, for a weekend backpacking trip. Unless we can get this resolved before the weekend, I'm going to need a stand-in through Monday, if not a replacement.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 07, 2010, 01:25:40 am

Or we can extend the day.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Solifuge on May 07, 2010, 09:07:16 am

Quote from: Pandarsenic on May 07, 2010, 01:25:40 am

Or we can extend the day.

...or we could extend the day.
Extension, plox.

So, anywho, we're at the penultimate lynch, which is a mislynch-and-lose (A MiLo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Milo_and_Otis), if you will), and I haven't had the time to review posts, motives, and statements much at all... and today is no exception. Given that Org has done everything he can to sabotauge my ability to deduce what's going on by being a giant anusbrain, I think we need to do this the old-fashioned way.

I'd really appreciate some reasoning from you guys. If there is a player who's willing to make a schematic of the last few days' lynches, focusing on the posts of the remaining 4 players in regards to the lynches, that would be awesome. Biased is fine too, so bias away... I'd even invite the Scum player to do it!

I'll slap a vote down in the event that we don't get an extension by the time I leave. Hope to get some direction beyond my gut instinct right now, though!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Org on May 07, 2010, 09:59:39 am

It's weird. It says that my psychic coil loosened around Janus...
But, you never know. Okay?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Solifuge on May 07, 2010, 10:48:30 am

So, Janus... you're saying now that you actually ARE a Mind Shield?

If so, this is the best MiLo ever.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 07, 2010, 10:57:01 am

Quote from: Org on May 07, 2010, 09:59:39 am

It's weird. It says that my psychic coil loosened around Janus...
But, you never know. Okay?

Mind Shield.

This is important:  Did you get the same flavor on Solifuge?  If you did, than he's not clear at all (likely scum actually, for letting us go on this long).  If you didn't, than he's clear because you blocked him when there was only one dopp and a kill.

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Unless Org says that Solifuge has a Mind Shield, Pandarsenic is scum.

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 28, 2010, 05:40:46 pm

Could be a Dopp Leader.

Also, In Theory!, you might have investigated to look for a kook to accuse and "clear" yourself. Of course, idle speculation doesn't get us much but you and Vector aren't quite clear yet.

First to posit Vector as Dopp Leader and Forsaken as scum theory.

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 29, 2010, 11:23:37 pm

Are we going to massclaim?

Forsaken is highly unlikely to be a Dopp (not certain but unlikely). Vector, Soli, and Janus are all unable to have performed the kill.


okay, hold up.

Rereading the flavor suggested that Jim was killed by a VIGILANTE, not a Doppelganger. Was he?

Mass claim two days ago, probably trying to work out how to get through three more days.
Also trying to confuse people with the circle kill.  Confusion is good for dopps, bad for town.

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 29, 2010, 11:53:13 pm

Okay, I have an idea.

Let's reread all the posts by dead dopps and see who's implicated by them?

Calls for reread to look town without actually doing the reread.

I did check (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54074.msg1210837#msg1210837), but there's only a minor connection with Pandarsenic (mild attack on day 2, used to not be totally disassociated) and another with Org/Solifuge (neither voted RedWarrior day 1, although almost everyone else did).

Quote from: Pandarsenic on April 30, 2010, 05:06:08 pm

Quick thought: If Leafy hadn't been Exterminated, today would be lylo with one vote not being controlled by its user, wouldn't it...?

I missed this when it was posted.  Looks like he's trying to cast suspicion on someone, although I can't for the life of me tell who.  Maybe SOlifuge?

Quote from: Pandarsenic on May 03, 2010, 08:23:21 pm

True fact: You can just lynch Vector, then, supposing the game were not to end:

Org blocks Janus, Janus guards Soli, Soli blocks me (or whatever).

Kill happens, one of the Wardens has to be scum.
If not, it could be any of the four remaining but it won't be because Vector is scum.

Makes mistakes, if people used this information, he would have been unblocked (well, he was anyways, but this was clarified first).

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Quote from: Solifuge on May 07, 2010, 10:48:30 am

So, Janus... you're saying now that you actually ARE a Mind Shield?

If so, this is the best MiLo ever.

Yes, just hadn't noticed because it hadn't come up.  And it's either you or Pandarsenic, strongly leaning towards the latter unless Org reports back to damn you.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Solifuge on May 07, 2010, 11:08:23 am

A point of interest I'd like to bring up is that Pandar approached me via PM about if I wanted him to "turn off his gun" tonight, without being prompted.

It felt strange, and forced.

Org has been Org... and not uncharacteristically so... and you supported his claim that you have a mind-shield.

I really am not a fan of people changing their stories, and their role-claims midway through. Org "remembered" that he targetted Jim on N1 after he claimed that Vector was his target every night. That was chalked up to silliness. Janus, you're suddenly a Mind-Shiled, which is a detail you weren't willing to share earlier... makes me think you might have been hiding the trump card in your hand, to keep a leg up on Town as a Dopple, such that any carefully-laid plan would fall apart. Pandar has been trying hard to look like a War Vet, but he hasn't changed his story, or suddenly "remembered" important details.

All of y'all have been pretty darned scatterbrained for this game, and it makes it hard for me to read people. Sons, were I Webadict, I would be dissapoint.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 07, 2010, 11:24:26 am

That is a little odd, but it also kind of makes sense.  Yesterday, he had to make three more kills to win the game.  Vector was the first with the lynch and he could either kill another in the night and hope to get 1 of 2 to agree with him or try to buy favor with the town and convince 1 of 3 instead (so long as the other 2 don't agree on someone else).

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Org on May 07, 2010, 01:05:30 pm

Nope, it seems that is was successful from the Soli-blcoking.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Mephansteras on May 07, 2010, 02:29:48 pm

The Whiteboard
JanusTwoface: Org
Pandarsenic: JanusTwoface

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Day ends ~5pm Pacific Today

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Org on May 07, 2010, 02:46:18 pm

EXTENSION

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Mephansteras on May 07, 2010, 02:54:32 pm

That's two votes for an Extension.

Day is now extended to ~5pm Pacific Monday

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 07, 2010, 05:10:19 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on May 07, 2010, 11:08:23 am

A point of interest I'd like to bring up is that Pandar approached me via PM about if I wanted him to "turn off his gun" tonight, without being prompted.

It felt strange, and forced.

Why forced? Either you would want me to or you wouldn't, and I didn't intend to catch shit for it if you forgot to tell me. -.-

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Solifuge on May 10, 2010, 09:18:43 am

Okay, I am back. Also, Pandarsenic. He's been unhelpful, hasn't provided useful information, or even reasonable thought/suspicions. He's quasi-lurking by deferring to others, and being non-commital.

As Obi-Wan-Kenobi once advised, I will trust my instincts. If we're wrong, Org/Janus, you know what to do. We will proceed with a modified form of last night's plan, in which Org will ACTUALLY LISTEN THIS TIME please.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 10, 2010, 10:29:27 am

Uh, Solifuge? Why not just NL?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Solifuge on May 10, 2010, 11:23:47 am

No Lynch puts us in a stalemate. Scum keeps on no-killing until the town lynches, and town keeps on no-lynching until the scum kills. Worse, we have a psychic warden who blocks characters, and a mind-shield. You'd keep getting blocked, and if Janus were a dopple he wouldn't attack, knowing it would incriminate him...

We'd just keep going and going and going. And that's no fun, plus the game would be force-ended by Meph at that point.

So, for now, we wait. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F8VOPxxmpI)
Did you see what I did there oh man.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 10, 2010, 11:26:13 am

"The Doppelgangers may choose to skip thier night kill. They may only do this twice in a row before their bloodlust forces them to kill."

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Mephansteras on May 10, 2010, 11:27:11 am

The Whiteboard
JanusTwoface: Org
Pandarsenic: JanusTwoface, Solifuge

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Day ends ~5pm Pacific Today

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 10, 2010, 11:34:18 am

Extension.

I'll vote JanusTwoFace for now, if I must.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Solifuge on May 10, 2010, 12:15:40 pm

Quote from: Pandarsenic on May 10, 2010, 11:26:13 am

"The Doppelgangers may choose to skip thier night kill. They may only do this twice in a row before their bloodlust forces them to kill."

Hmmm... very well.

Unvote Pandarsenic and No Lynch. This is actually a good idea, and gives Org a chance to Psy-Block Pandarsenic before the dopple is forced to kill.

And if they do kill, we've pretty much got it down.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 10, 2010, 12:57:55 pm

Mephansteras:  How does the time limit work if the Dopp chooses to kill but is blocked by a Psychic Warden?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Org on May 10, 2010, 01:01:29 pm

Soli wants me to no block.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Mephansteras on May 10, 2010, 01:05:11 pm

Quote from: JanusTwoface on May 10, 2010, 12:57:55 pm

Mephansteras:  How does the time limit work if the Dopp chooses to kill but is blocked by a Psychic Warden?

The time limit for the Dopps is the number of days they can go without killing before they have no choice in the matter. If they are blocked they simply lose the choice of whether or not to kill the next night. They have to keep trying.

General note: This game is limited to 7 active day/night cycles. On the 8th day, the game ends and anyone who hasn't won yet loses.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 10, 2010, 01:10:48 pm

Shiny.

So the thing that worries me most is that Pandarsenic is the one to bring up the No Lynch.  If he's an Advanced Dopp we could be in all manner of trouble.  We'll still have a lynch tomorrow but with no idea who the dopp is.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Solifuge on May 10, 2010, 02:11:10 pm

I quit. Org, you are the worst possible partner to attempt to work with, and my patience in trying is expended.

For perspective, here was the plan.
Last Night, Org doesn't block anyone. I tell Pandar to "turn off his gun" so Janus can block him. This wasn't happening; instead, I asked Janus to protect Org, and Org to do nothing. The following were the intended results:

1) Pandar is Scum: Sensing a safe opportunity to kill Org or me, he would have a clean shot at either of us, and could easily pin it on Janus. However, Org would have been Vengefully guarded, which would have killed him if he attacked. Being that I am now a powerless player, I was most likely not going to be his target if both of us were unprotected available.

2) Janus is scum: Janus was told that Org is blocking Pandar tonight, so if scum he would no-kill, in hopes to frame Pandar, foment his lynch, and then win.

But what does Org do? He blocks Janus, breaking the whole chain, and effectively ruining any info that could have been gleaned, etc.

So then, I attempt to scramble to piece together the wreckage. Today, I publically imply that Org will Psy-Block Pandarsenic and disable his counter-killing ability, and intended to privately tell Janus to bodyguard him, tell Pandar to Keep his Gun On, and ask Org privately to not psy-block him at all. The goal is:

1) If Pandar is a Dopple, he won't attack, Janus will target him, and die (if he really is a War Vet) or will be alive if he isn't, thus clearing up the WIFOM or revealing Pandar to have lied about being a War Vet, thus allowing Org and I to lynch him assuredly tomorrow.

2) If Janus is a Dopple, he would do nothing, wanting to make it appear as though.

So I tell Org not to block him, and why, and then:

Quote from: Org on May 10, 2010, 01:01:29 pm

Soli wants me to no block.

Durp Durp Durp. Way to sabotauge things once again. This is the 3rd night you've done this, Org.

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In conclusion, the remaining players are 1/4 Scum, and 1/4 Pant's-On-Head Retarded, so we're as good as outnumbered... especially since Org seems to have made it his personal crusade to sabotauge anything I can hope to do. My future policy will be to lynch Org on Day 1, given any remotely probable cause.

Anyway, I have lost the desire to try to plan anything, so I'll just lynch vote, and hope to end it one way or another. Pandarsenic, my unusually lengthy temper is worn thin. Please take this gracefully and stand still so we can shoot you.

And Org, you're doing everything but helping right now. I'd encourage you to make more use of that big lump of pinkish-grey matter in your head. It's there for a reason.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Solifuge on May 10, 2010, 02:17:23 pm

Parts of the last post made no sense, since I was jumping around to organize my thoughts, and I think I trailed off in one or two places.

Adendum: Given evidence, the scum is Janus, and not Pandarsenic. I also know I'll never get Org off his one-track-mind to vote for him, but I am eagerly anticipating this being finished. Also, in the event that I am right, and Panda is Town, I'd ask that you kill me first, Janus, such that your unwitting accomplice can go a-frolicking off with you, eating people in distant lands.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Org on May 10, 2010, 03:27:36 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on May 10, 2010, 02:11:10 pm

I quit. Org, you are the worst possible partner to attempt to work with, and my patience in trying is expended.

For perspective, here was the plan.
Last Night, Org doesn't block anyone. I tell Pandar to "turn off his gun" so Janus can block him. This wasn't happening; instead, I asked Janus to protect Org, and Org to do nothing. The following were the intended results:

1) Pandar is Scum: Sensing a safe opportunity to kill Org or me, he would have a clean shot at either of us, and could easily pin it on Janus. However, Org would have been Vengefully guarded, which would have killed him if he attacked. Being that I am now a powerless player, I was most likely not going to be his target if both of us were unprotected available.

2) Janus is scum: Janus was told that Org is blocking Pandar tonight, so if scum he would no-kill, in hopes to frame Pandar, foment his lynch, and then win.

But what does Org do? He blocks Janus, breaking the whole chain, and effectively ruining any info that could have been gleaned, etc.

So then, I attempt to scramble to piece together the wreckage. Today, I publically imply that Org will Psy-Block Pandarsenic and disable his counter-killing ability, and intended to privately tell Janus to bodyguard him, tell Pandar to Keep his Gun On, and ask Org privately to not psy-block him at all. The goal is:

1) If Pandar is a Dopple, he won't attack, Janus will target him, and die (if he really is a War Vet) or will be alive if he isn't, thus clearing up the WIFOM or revealing Pandar to have lied about being a War Vet, thus allowing Org and I to lynch him assuredly tomorrow.

2) If Janus is a Dopple, he would do nothing, wanting to make it appear as though.

So I tell Org not to block him, and why, and then:

Quote from: Org on May 10, 2010, 01:01:29 pm

Soli wants me to no block.

Durp Durp Durp. Way to sabotauge things once again. This is the 3rd night you've done this, Org.

---

In conclusion, the remaining players are 1/4 Scum, and 1/4 Pant's-On-Head Retarded, so we're as good as outnumbered... especially since Org seems to have made it his personal crusade to sabotauge anything I can hope to do. My future policy will be to lynch Org on Day 1, given any remotely probable cause.

Anyway, I have lost the desire to try to plan anything, so I'll just lynch vote, and hope to end it one way or another. Pandarsenic, my unusually lengthy temper is worn thin. Please take this gracefully and stand still so we can shoot you.

And Org, you're doing everything but helping right now. I'd encourage you to make more use of that big lump of pinkish-grey matter in your head. It's there for a reason.

Nope. Pandar is scum.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Mephansteras on May 10, 2010, 03:32:40 pm

The Whiteboard
JanusTwoface: Org, Pandarsenic
Pandarsenic: JanusTwoface, Solifuge

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 10, 2010, 04:27:36 pm

I... what?

Is NOBODY voting someone they think is scum?

Soli thinks Janus is scum and votes for me, Org thinks I'm scum and votes for Janus, I'm not sure but in light of Solifuge's revelations and Janus' mindshield claim Janus is most probable scum though a NL is the best move today, and Janus... I guess he wants the War Veteran out of the way.

Also:

Quote from: JanusTwoface on May 10, 2010, 01:10:48 pm

Shiny.

So the thing that worries me most is that Pandarsenic is the one to bring up the No Lynch.  If he's an Advanced Dopp we could be in all manner of trouble.  We'll still have a lynch tomorrow but with no idea who the dopp is.

I would have fired this off in the past - like, y'know, last night?

Also, if somebody flips "Townie" (especially Janus) they're an Advanced Doppelganger and I'm clear because an attempt to convert me would end with a faceshooting.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Org on May 10, 2010, 04:29:59 pm

I have a plan guys.

No Lynch, and No Actions.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Org on May 10, 2010, 04:31:06 pm

Hehe.
Tonight I will know who scum is.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 10, 2010, 04:32:20 pm

Unvote.

No lynch.

I'm keeping my gun ready. Target me if you dare. Janus, if you're scum please suicide on me and if you're not please don't.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Solifuge on May 10, 2010, 08:47:56 pm

Pandarsenic, may I borrow one of you guns? Org has a plan, and I want to be able to end it all as painlessly as possible.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 11, 2010, 12:56:43 am

Sure, come grab it once I'm done with it. >_<

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 5 dawns cool and quiet
Post by: Mephansteras on May 11, 2010, 01:10:41 am

  You bicker a bit but ultimately decide that lynching no one is best for today.


Day 5 has ended. Send in your night actions!

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 6 mocks you
Post by: Mephansteras on May 11, 2010, 04:52:15 pm

  Only three of you left today. Org, it seems, was not lucky enough to survive through the night.

  You go to his house, dreading what you might find. There you find a table with the stub of a melted candle, a crystal, and a small chain lying on it. Next to Org's head, which has its eye's propped open staring at the crystal. It's...really pretty creepy. Seriously, this doppelganger is messed up.

  In any case, it's clear from a bit of searching around that Org was some sort of Psychic Warden. And you didn't even know such people existed before now. Well...this one used to exist, anyway.

  You then realize with horror that the creature that did this is standing right next to you. You'll have to find him today, if you want to live to get off this cursed island alive!

---

Day 6 has started. It will go until ~5pm Pacific Thursday

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 6 mocks you
Post by: Solifuge on May 11, 2010, 05:05:29 pm

Org didn't tell me who he blocked last night. Can either of you two tell me if you were bound by ethereal chains last night?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 6 mocks you
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 11, 2010, 06:16:01 pm

That would be me he blocked. My instinct remains that Janus is the final scum.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 6 mocks you
Post by: Solifuge on May 11, 2010, 06:28:00 pm

Janus, did Org attempt to block you again?

Pandar, are you certain if it's Janus, and if so, why no vote?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 6 mocks you
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 11, 2010, 08:20:35 pm

Pandarsenic. It has to be.

Didn't notice any flavor indicating if Org targeted me. So I guess he either none'd or hit another mind shield.   

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 6 mocks you
Post by: Solifuge on May 11, 2010, 09:05:51 pm

Okay, charade over. I was hoping to bait a lie from you, Janus, but maybe I'm getting too transparent...

Anywho, enough of the data lines up. JanusTwoFace it is. Dopple Mind Shields suck serious citrus, but it's better than Dopple War Veterans.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 6 mocks you
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 11, 2010, 09:10:53 pm

What exactly says that he's actually a War Vet?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 6 mocks you
Post by: Solifuge on May 11, 2010, 10:08:44 pm

Out of curiosity, why is that even remotely relevant?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 6 mocks you
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 11, 2010, 10:25:19 pm

We can break out the role values if you really want.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 6 mocks you
Post by: Solifuge on May 11, 2010, 10:26:24 pm

<.< what I'd really like is for a consensus vote either way, Pandar. And I'd hope the answer'd be rather obvious by now.

IE. If I was scum, I'd have hammered with Janus.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 6 mocks you
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 11, 2010, 10:32:33 pm

Unless you feared such an action exposing you, yes.

I would be more bold in my actions but I'm tired right now, and I swore not to play Mafia while tired.

Since I'm violating that, I at least won't vote at Lylo while tired.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 6 mocks you
Post by: Solifuge on May 12, 2010, 07:54:22 am

Quote from: Solifuge on May 11, 2010, 10:26:24 pm

If I was scum, I'd have hammered with Janus.

Quote from: Pandarsenic on May 11, 2010, 10:32:33 pm

Unless you feared such an action exposing you, yes.

Pandar, I wouldn't have to worry about it "exposing" me because I'd have already won.

Seriously, if you're Scum, vote with me on Janus and you win. If you're not, vote with me on Janus and you win. I'm pretty sure the J-Man is the Dopple, as he has merely presented oblique observations in the face of a lynch-vote, as he has been doing for some time. Remember that I was blocked successfully by Org, on a night when only 1 dopple remained, and someone was killed anyway, so I am clear. On top of that, it should be pretty darned obvious, since you were blocked last night, who was the killer.

Oh, and Janus, your best bet at winning is to convince Pandar that I'm scum, so you might want to be voting on me instead. Unless he makes a turn for the scummy, I'm pretty well set.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 6 mocks you
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 12, 2010, 11:42:00 am

But I know that you're town.  The only way you could not be town is if you had an Advanced Mind Shield, but you'd have to have been an Exterminator for that.

Pandarsenic is scum.  He's been lurking his ass off pretty much the entire game, barely being helpful even now when his last few 'helpful' comments involved lynching Vector (even though Forsaken was proven Agent), Solifuge being a Psychic Warden, and No Lynching which got us to where we are today.  And now he's about to lurk his way to a scum victory.  Way to go.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 6 mocks you
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 12, 2010, 12:11:15 pm

Hell, JanusTwoFace.

My intuition has at least a 9/10 success rate. I need to just trust it.

Meph, feel free to end the day.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 6 mocks you
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 12, 2010, 05:04:38 pm

I'm confused about what your intuition has to do with this.  And about how you still seem to think that Solifuge can somehow be scum.  Unless you're keeping your options open and hoping to convince me instead of Solifuge.

And Solifuge, if you're not going to vote for Pandarsenic, we might as well end this--we've already lost.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 6 mocks you
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 12, 2010, 05:43:19 pm

Janus: Because my intuition is always right and it says you're scum?

Because something seemed weird about him firing off his MIND CONTROL the night it would've been Lylo if Leafyface had survived.

Still.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 6 mocks you
Post by: Solifuge on May 12, 2010, 07:42:58 pm

Just to clarify, both of you have been scummy as hell. Now, lets get to shootin'.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 6 mocks you
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 12, 2010, 09:18:43 pm

What have I done that's scummy?  Other than forgetting that I had a Mind Shield.

Pandarsenic's been lurky/unhelpful/scummy all game.  Shoot him.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 6 mocks you
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 12, 2010, 10:57:34 pm

If you guys won't just ignore it like Mr.Person in Vote Mafia Special Edition, I'll post a supermegafatty summary of everything that has happened.


Also, Org, I want you to explain why you blocked me in dead chat.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 6 mocks you
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 12, 2010, 10:59:08 pm

Unlikely that there's anything that could possibly convince me that you're not scum, but it would be interesting to see the game from another prospective.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 6 mocks you
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 12, 2010, 11:30:32 pm

Going to focus only on interactions of flipped scum and players still alive, for sake of what little consisefaceness I can manage.

Toony randoms Org
RedWarrior0 randoms Vector, asks what scum role she would be
Kashyyk asks if I'm exty, I give him the only response he deserved and asked why Vector gave an answer that, while literally true, was absolutely meaningless with a pseudorandom vote. Vector replies.
RedWarrior0 goes on a tangent about Mr.Person's avatar.
RedWarrior0 pushes Org lynch, goes HURR HURR I CAN'T LURK BECAUSE EVERYONE IS WATCHING FOR IT
(Also, I'm going to stop tracking Toony. He was exty, yeah, but that's irrelevant unless one of you is Operative and the other is Doppelganger).
I ask Org and RedWarrior0 why each wants the other lynched first. Org goes "HURR HURR DOCTOR"
RedWarrior0 would "rather lynch scum first," acts like he thinks Org claimed.
I vote Org for being a douchebag. He replies "No."
Leafsnail shows up, randomvotes Wuba and asks about lynchingoflurkers.
RedWarrior0 argues against policy lynching, implying that lynching him is policylynching.
Wuba secondvotes me for secondvoting Vector ages before he showed up.
Org acts like a dumbass. I tell him to stop acting like a dumbass.
Leafsnail repeats his question for Wuba, pokes at Soli and Mr.Person
Soli responds to Leafsnail's poke with a valid point.
I point out that I don't mind Org policylynch at all.
Solifuge suggest that policylynching Org isn't a fantastic idea - noteworthy because if he was a Dopp that'd be him directing the lynch towards his team's Medium.
Everyone is like "Why bother protecting ORG?"
Soli hunts the fuck out of Toony, then votes Jokerman-EXE.
I-

Oh hey

I missed most of your posts

I'm tired, I'll do this later if the game doesn't end

Blah

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 6 mocks you
Post by: Mephansteras on May 13, 2010, 11:22:00 am

The Whiteboard
JanusTwoface: Pandarsenic, Solifuge
Pandarsenic: JanusTwoface

---

Day ends at ~5pm Pacific Today, unless all three of you agree to shorten it.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 6 mocks you
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 13, 2010, 11:33:00 am

Quote from: Pandarsenic on May 12, 2010, 11:30:32 pm

Going to focus only on interactions of flipped scum and players still alive, for sake of what little consisefaceness I can manage.

Toony randoms Org
RedWarrior0 randoms Vector, asks what scum role she would be
Kashyyk asks if I'm exty, I give him the only response he deserved and asked why Vector gave an answer that, while literally true, was absolutely meaningless with a pseudorandom vote. Vector replies.
RedWarrior0 goes on a tangent about Mr.Person's avatar.
RedWarrior0 pushes Org lynch, goes HURR HURR I CAN'T LURK BECAUSE EVERYONE IS WATCHING FOR IT
(Also, I'm going to stop tracking Toony. He was exty, yeah, but that's irrelevant unless one of you is Operative and the other is Doppelganger).
I ask Org and RedWarrior0 why each wants the other lynched first. Org goes "HURR HURR DOCTOR"
RedWarrior0 would "rather lynch scum first," acts like he thinks Org claimed.
I vote Org for being a douchebag. He replies "No."
Leafsnail shows up, randomvotes Wuba and asks about lynchingoflurkers.
RedWarrior0 argues against policy lynching, implying that lynching him is policylynching.
Wuba secondvotes me for secondvoting Vector ages before he showed up.
Org acts like a dumbass. I tell him to stop acting like a dumbass.
Leafsnail repeats his question for Wuba, pokes at Soli and Mr.Person
Soli responds to Leafsnail's poke with a valid point.
I point out that I don't mind Org policylynch at all.
Solifuge suggest that policylynching Org isn't a fantastic idea - noteworthy because if he was a Dopp that'd be him directing the lynch towards his team's Medium.
Everyone is like "Why bother protecting ORG?"
Soli hunts the fuck out of Toony, then votes Jokerman-EXE.
I-

Oh hey

I missed most of your posts

I'm tired, I'll do this later if the game doesn't end

Blah

The only one of us you've mentioned so far is Solifuge.  Who can't be scum.  So really not helpful at all.  Pretty much your general mode of operation for this game: promise to do something usefully town and than fail to deliver.  Scum.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Day 6 mocks you
Post by: Mephansteras on May 13, 2010, 08:07:32 pm

  "No one has anything more to say?" asks Pandarsenic, looking around.

   "No?"..."Fine". He picks up the pistol and points it at JanusTwoFace.

  Janus stands up, and as he does so his form begins to shift. His fingers elongate as his face seems to melt back in on itself. "Gah, enough! I've killed enough of your kind, I'm not scared of two pitiful humans!"

  Solifuge screams and hides behind a table as Pandarsenic opens fire. But the shots fly wide as the inhumanly fast doppelganger dashes forward. With a swift kick he knocks the gun out of Panda's hand. A slash with his claws and the War Vet tumbles backwards and slumps onto the ground.

  "Now for you, you meddling scientist. I'm going to enjoy picking your brain". The monster chuckles as it strides forward, only to fall forward as gunshots ring out. Pandarsenic slowly gets to his feet, holding onto his side with one hand while loosly holding his personal firearm in his other. "Don't turn you back on me, scum." He growls, and then puts a few more rounds into the Vengeful Guard's prone body.

  "Hey egghead, think you can find some way for us to get out of here and go home? This vacation sucked!"

---

That's it! Game over! Town wins.


Dead Chat: http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/JH7QmpcZT6LE
Dopp Chat: http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/uucrfEbNbyqnt

Spoiler: Role PMs (click to show/hide)

Paranormal Mafia 15

There are 14 players, 3 of which are Doppelgangers and 1 are aliens (0.09)

JanusTwoface (Doppelganger)
    Vengful Guard
    Mind Shield
Jim Groovester (Human)
    Enchanter   
Jokerman-EXE (Human)
    Heroic Guard
    Kook
Kashyyk (Human)
    Intelligence Scientist
Leafsnail (Doppelganger)
    War Vet
Mr.Person (Human)
    Enchanter
    Kook
Org (Human)
    Psychic Warden
Pandarsenic (Human)
    War Vet
RedWarrior0 (Doppelganger)
    Medium
Solifuge (Human)
    Cutting Edge Scientist
ToonyMan (Alien)
    Exterminator
    Personal Victory
    Mind Shield
Vector (Human)
    Guardian
forsaken1111 (Human)
    Agent
webadict (Human)   
    Townsperson



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Roles
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--------------------
Doppelgangers
-------------------

You awaken in cave to the smell of salt, and fish. Soft sand crunches under your feet as you make your way outside to warmth of the sun.

You do not know what you are, or why you are here. But you do know hunger, and the desire to feed.

Scouting around you find some humans splashing in a secluded cove. They are swiftly overcome, and with their consumption comes knowledge, and identity.

JanusTwoface (Doppelganger)
    This human served in the military, and had some skill with weapons. You have decided to use these skills to act as a Vengeful Guard for your kin. Should anyone attack them, you will strike them down instead, though it may cost you your life.
   
  Your mind also  seems to have a natural barrier against psychic contact. This Mind Shield will help you stay hidden and safe from the humans.

Leafsnail (Doppelganger)
    Your human served alongside JanusTwoFace's human in the military, but his nature was much more cautious. As a War Vet you will lash out any who come near you at night, regardless of their intent. You may turn this ability off for a night, if you wish, though that will leave you vulnerable.

RedWarrior0 (Doppelganger)
    Your human has long dabbled in the spirit realms and had become an accomplished Medium. You may use this ability to speak with the souls of the departed.

You three share a connection which allows you to speak to one another at all times: http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/uucrfEbNbyqnt

-------------

ToonyMan (Alien)

Greetings, Exterminator. As you know, our rivals have been experimenting at creating doppelgangers to infiltrate our ranks. These experiments must be stopped! You are to track one set of pods to the planet earth, and wipe all traces of the experiment from the island.
   
To aid you in this, you have been given access to Tech. Choose may choose one Medium Tech and one Large Tech to aid you. Reply to this message with your Tech choices as soon as possible.

In addition, you have been trained to guard your mind with a Mind Shield which will protect you from psychic detection and attack.

--

Jim Groovester (Human)
    You are an entertainer her at the hotel, posing as a simple stage magician. In fact, you are a talented Enchanter who is able to bend the minds of his audience. You've used this ability to keep audiences enthralled, but now it seems you must use it to help destroy these monsters. During the day your vote counts double, unless you specifically choose not to use your ability for that day.

--

Jokerman-EXE (Human)
    A long-term police officer, you're here for some much needed R&R after a rather nasty mission went south on you and your partner. His death has really weighed on your conscious. Therefore, you've decided that you'll be a Heroic Guard, protecting the other humans here from these monsters. Each night you may choose to guard another player. If that player is attacked, no matter the odds, you will defend them even though it would likely result in your own death.

  Your trauma has effected you a good bit, however, and it's caused people to look at you like some kind of Kook. Hopefully no one will mistake you for a doppelganger because of it!

--

Kashyyk (Human)
  This island has been a perfect place for an Intelligence Scientist like you to work in secret. Now it seems you'll need to test your prototype out sooner then you'd thought! (Choose from Mind Shield, Snooper Bot or Security System)

--

Mr.Person (Human)
    You chose this hotel because it was out of the way and quiet. A good place to practice your skills as an Enchanter. Looks like you really needed to pay more attention to that little voice in the back of your mind! But you're here now, and so are these monsters. At least you can use your powers to help override their votes. During the day your vote counts double, unless you specifically choose not to use your ability for that day.
   
  Unfortunately, people have always found you to be a bit off. Kind of a creepy Kook in a lot of ways. You can only hope that this does cause anyone to mistake you for one of those doppelgangers!

--

Org (Human)
   You chose this hotel because it was out of the way and quiet. A good place to practice your skills as a Psychic Warden. Looks like you'll get a little more practice then you'd thought! Each night you can choose to target another player and block them from taking any actions. As this is a psychic ability, you need not leave your room to use it.

--

Pandarsenic (Human)
    God damn it! You came to this stinking island to forget about all that violence and death! Well, those monsters chose the wrong War Vet to pick on! You've found a pistol and you're going to blow the brains out of anyone stupid enough to come knocking on your door!

--

Solifuge (Human)
    This island has been a perfect place for an Cutting Edge Scientist like you to work in secret. Now it seems you'll need to test your prototype out sooner then you'd thought! (Choose from Mind Shield, Body Double or Mind Control Ray)

--

Vector (Human)
    It seems that a true Guardian gets no rest, even on vacation. You've spent your whole career as a police officer watching the backs of your fellow officers and defending the lives of innocents. Now it seems you'll have to help protect them from monsters as well. Each night you may choose to protect another player. If they should be attacked you'll keep them safe from harm.

--

forsaken1111 (Human)
   Our agency has tracked a doppelganger pod to this island. Your task, Agent, is to discover the identities of the doppelgangers and expose them. Do not let these monsters escape from that island! Each night you can inspect another player to determine if they are human, doppelganger, or alien.

--

webadict (Human)   
    You know, life just can't give you a break sometimes. You go through a nasty divorce, almost have a heart attack, and then you think life throws you a bone. A cheap hotel on a tropical island! A nice place to forget about it all. But, no, now there are doppelgangers to worry about. What is it about the average townsperson that fate hates so much?

Spoiler: Night 1 (click to show/hide)

forsaken1111  Human Agent       inspect Jokerman-exe  Doppelganger

  You wait until dark and slip quietly outside. After carefully making sure that no one is around you head of to Jokerman-exe's hut. Once there you find a small crack in the wall and peek in. He's walking around with a strange vacant expression on his face, mechanically taking care of small things in the room. He shows all of the tell-tale signs of an inhuman that has let down its guard and isn't putting in the effort to appear human. Nodding to yourself you head off to your room. No doubt about it, Jokerman-exe is a doppelganger!
--

JanusTwoface  Doppelganger  Vengful Guard/Mind Shield       Guard Vector  guards

  You slip quietly into the night and head off to Vector's hut. You have to push down your violent impulses, and spend the night guarding her rather than eating her. But you manage, and the night passes quietly anyway. As dawn nears you head off to join Leafsnail for the night's feast.
--

Jim Groovester  Human Enchanter         blocked

  You wake up in the middle of the night with a pounding heart. You try to get up, but your body won't move! It feels as if you are bound in invisible chains binding you to your bed. You struggle for a bit, but it is no use. Eventually you fall back asleep and awaken in the morning with a splitting headache. You're pretty sure you won't be able to use your abilities this day, not with a headache like this!
--

Jokerman-EXE  Human (Dopp)  Heroic Guard/Kook       Guard Vector  guards
 
  You slip quietly into the night and head off to Vector's hut. You can't be sure that she's not a monster, of course, but you resolve to protect her tonight regardless. Fortunately, she remains left alone and your services are not needed. Eventually you head back to your room for a few hours of rest.
--

Darkness3313  Human Intelligence Scientist        Pandarsenic Destroyed Snooper Bot

  You send your snooper bot off to watch Pandarsenic. It creeps off into the night and you settle down in front of the monitors with a cup of coffee. After a bit you see it close in on his hut. As it gets closer you see a small bit of motion near a window and you turn the bot towards the window and start to zoom in. You catch just a glimpse of a gun barrel before the screen fills with static. It seems that he didn't like anyone intruding on his privacy. A shame your bot was destroyed so early, though.

--

Leafsnail Doppelganger  War Vet       Kill Mr.Person  Kills
 
  You sneak off into the night, slipping through the vegetation as silent a breeze. You find Mr.Person's hut easily enough, discover that while the door is locked one of the windows is not. You quickly slip in and move up to the bed. Mr.Person sleeps fitfully, and his eyes open just before your claws reach his throat. He doesn't even have time to scream.

--

Mr.Person Human (Dopp)  Enchanter/Kook          Dies

    Your dreams are troubled, and you wake in the darkness. Your heart pounds in your chest, and as your eyes adjust you notice a shape above you. Before you can even scream a clawed hand reaches down, and the world returns to darkness.

    You have died, and your soul drifts off to limbo. http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/JH7QmpcZT6LE

--

Org Human Psychic Warden        Block Jim Groovester  blocks

  As the sun sets you get out your ceremonial artifacts. A small white candle, a thin brass chain, and chunk of quartz. You focus your eyes on the quartz, watching the flicker of candle light as it glints on the clear stone. As your mind relaxes you slip into the trance of a Warden and cast your mind out to Jim Groovester. You feel his spirit close and grasp the chain from the table. As you wind the chain in your hands you feel the spiritual chain wind around him. He is bound and shall not leave this night. You break the trance and get up to stretch. That was tiring, but hopefully you've managed to save a life tonight.

--

Pandarsenic Human War Vet         Shoots something

  You sit in your hut, watching the forest through a small slit in the window. Your pistol feels heavy in your hands, the grip slick with sweat. After a while you grow tired, but years of discipline help keep you alert. Eventually you snap fully alert, your senses sharpening. Something out there...is moving.

  You snatch the pistol up and take careful aim before squeezing off a few rounds. The sharp report of gunshots cracks through the night air and there is a brief flurry of movement from the bushes, then silence. You're not sure if you hit whatever it was, or if it got away. But at least whatever it is knows you mean business!

  You reload the gun and spend a few tense hours waiting for it to return, but nothing happens. As dawn breaks over the waters you stretch and begin to prepare for the long day ahead.
--

ToonyMan  Alien Exterminator/Mind Shield        Plasma Bomb Webadict  Bombs Plasma Bomb, Assassin Bot

  You bring up the link to your shipboard computer and punch in a few co-ordinates. After carefully double-checking everything you set the bomb to ignite and gaze out your window. After a few minutes  there is a flash of light arcing down from the sky, and then a great pulse of light from where webadict's hut used to be. He, and anyone paying him a visit, is likely little but ash at this point.

--

Vector  Human Guardian        Guard ToonyMan  Guards

  You head out as night falls and make your way silently to ToonyMan's hut. You then find a secluded spot to watch from and settle down for a long wait. Fortunately, nothing interesting happens and you are able to head back to your hut for a few hours of sleep before dawn.
--

webadict  Human Townsperson         Bombed
 
  As you get ready to go to bed you notice a strange whining noise. You head over to your window and look out, just in time to see a streak of light heading towards you. The world explodes in light and fire, and you know no more.

  You have died, and your soul drifts off to limbo. http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/JH7QmpcZT6LE

Spoiler: Night 2 (click to show/hide)

forsaken1111  Human  Agent        Investigate Vector  Human

  You  carefully make your way over to Vector's hut and watch her for a bit. She acts perfectly normal, however, and you don't see anything unusual about her that suggests that she is anything other than a normal human.

--

JanusTwoface  Doppelganger  Vengful Guard/Mind Shield        Guards Vector  Controlled - Guard Vector

  You gather up your gear and prepare to head off to watch ToonyMan. But as you walk out the door something buzzes in your mind, and you find yourself drawn inexplicably toward's Vector's house. You were going to guard Vector tonight, that's it. No...wait...yes...no...you're not sure. But you go guard Vector anyway.

  Fortunately, she doesn't really need protecting and you head back to your house and fall asleep. As you drift off, something nags at the back of your mind. Something else you were going to do...

[You have been Mind Controlled. During the next day the person who is using the Mind Control device can change your vote however they see fit, which I will post in the thread. You can try to change the vote, but unless the person controlling you allows it I will simply change your vote back when I do a vote count.]

--

Jim Groovester  Human  Enchanter          Dies     

  You sleep in your bed, restfully tonight with none of the strange binding feelings that held you the night before. Your rest, however, is interrupted. You awaken to a creaking sound, and slowly...fearfully...get out of bed. You approach the main room of the hut to and can dimly see a figure standing there. You focus your mind on the figure, trying to bend its will to your own. "Leave this house, whoever you are!" You command, projecting all your willpower into that one phrase. The figure steps back and starts to turn around, but then shakes its head. An arm raises and you see the glint of gun barrel. A loud crack sounds in the room, and all goes dark.

  You have died, and your soul drifts off to limbo. http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/JH7QmpcZT6LE
--

Leafsnail  Doppelganger  War Vet        Kill Jim Groovester  Kills Jim, Kills Toonyman/Dies   

  You slip silently through the jungle. War honed skills combine with supernatural strength and grace to form a killing machine like no other. And tonight...tonight Jim Groovester is going to experience that first hand.

  You easily reach his hut unseen. The front lock on this one is old, the wood holding it brittle and rotten. You carefully snap the lock out of the door frame and open the door. A slight creak as it swings open, but no other sound. Your footfalls are silent on the floor, but it seems your prey is awake and aware. He steps out of the bedroom and speaks. "Leave this house, whoever you are!" he commands. You can feel the force of his will batter your mind. Unable to resist, you step backwards and begin to turn. But then...then your mind turns red. Rage and bloodlust fills you. How dare this human try to control you! With a snarl you lift your hand and fire a bullet through his forehead. He staggers back and collapses onto the ground, dead.

  You sling the body over your shoulder and head out into the night.

  As you slip back through the forest you instincts come alive. You are not just hunter this night, but hunted as well.

  You dump the body on the ground and slip between two large trees. As you slide into cover a bolt of searing energy slams into the tree to your right. You stretch out your senses, and feel your attacker moving through the brush. You roll off to the side and snap off a shot. The bullet rips through the underbrush, but your assailant leaps away. Another blast of energy slices through the jungle, this one missing you by mere inches. You snap off another shot and leap upwards, swinging up into the trees. You quickly scramble up a large branch and leap across to another tree. Searing energy follows you along, but the shots are wide.  Safe from view behind a canopy of large leaves you slowly creep towards your attacker. You can sense him, moving carefully along the ground. Soon, a clear shot opens up. You fire off two shots and roll off of the branch. As you land your attacker staggers backwards. Your shots hit, but did not kill. You fire off another shot before ducking through some bushes into a gully.

  A growled curse follows you, and several bolts of energy sizzle through the underbrush to arc over your head. Grinning, you slither your way across the muddy gully and under another thick bush. Tense moments go by as you sense your attacker moving around in the underbrush. Sensing an opportune moment you burst forwards. Supernatural speed catapults you through the brush towards your target, leaves and twigs snapping as you pass. As you burst out of the brush you fire a shot point-blank into your opponent's chest. Grunting, he slides down and kicks upwards. Tumbling, you crash to the ground and roll into a tree. As you spring upright a blast of energy slams into your arm. Hot pain lances through it, and you feel your gun slip from your grasp. Growling you leap forward, somersaulting through the air to land behind your opponent. He spins to face you, and your good arm lashes out. Claws slice through fabric and flesh, and hot blood sprays over your arm as you sever the arteries in his neck. As he falls backwards you feel a searing pain in your chest. You feel the ground slam into your back, and hear the sighing of the wind through the jungle. Moments pass, and all slips into oblivion.

  You have died, and your soul drifts off to limbo. http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/JH7QmpcZT6LE

--
 
Org  Human  Psychic Warden        Block Vector  Blocks       

  You sit at the lone table in the hut, your ceremonial artifacts before you. As before, you focus your eyes on the quartz, watching the flicker of candle light as it glints on the clear stone. Your mind relaxes and you slip into the trance of a Warden. This night you cast your mind out to Vector. You feel her spirit close cast a spiritual chain about her. You feel her mind struggle, but she is no match for your power. Soon her struggles cease, and you can tell that the binding is complete. She will go nowhere tonight.
--
   
Solifuge  Human  Cutting Edge Scientist        Control JanusTwoFace - Target Vector    Mind Control Ray

  You have to work hard to stifle a laugh as you flip the switch on your Mind Control Beam. Finally, a chance to try it out for real!!

  You carefully align the beam with JanusTwoFace's position and fire up the control process. Streams of code fly across your screen as it connects, and controls. Rubbing your hands with glee you input a few commands and focus his mind on Vector. Whatever thoughts he may have had, whatever plan or goal he may have had in mind, he will now think only of Vector.

  And tomorrow...tomorrow he shall vote as you see fit!

[The mind control is pretty simple. You PM me with whatever vote you want Janus to make. I will then make a post showing him voting the way you want (obviously mind controlled). Regardless of what votes he makes in the thread, his vote will always revert back to the vote you choose unless you specifically allow him to make his own choice]
--

ToonyMan  Alien  Exterminator/Mind Shield        Kill Leafsnail  Kills/Dies  Plasma Bomb (used), Assassin Bot

  You strap on your combat gear and head out into the night. You doubt Leafsnail will put up much of a fight, but better to be safe than sorry.

  As you approach his hut you detect movement in the jungle nearby. Cautiously, you slip through the thick foliage and peer around. The first thing you spot is a body dumped on the ground. The second is a figure slipping between two trees. You fire off a bolt of energy at whoever it is, but they duck back in time. Hissing you move sideways to get a shot just as the figure rolls away from the trees. A gunshot rings out through the night, and you hear the bullet hiss through the underbrush near you. Bringing up your blaster you fire off another shot, this one skimming just past the creature's head. And your cameras have given you an image of it. It is a creature indeed...a doppelganger, and dressed in Leafsnail's clothing. It seems you chose better than you thought. You duck out of the way as another bullet wings by you, and leafsnail makes a mighty leap into the trees above your head. You track the movement of the branches are fire off a few shots, but you doubt any hit.

  You carefully make your way along, scanning the treetops for signs of your foe. A flicker of motion is your only warning as more gunshots crack above you. The impacts stagger you, but it seems your armor did its job well. Your vitals are fine. The doppelganger drops down from the trees and fires off another shot but you duck aside. Before you can retaliate it has slipped off into the bushes. You fire a few shots off after it, then begin to circle around. Time slowly drags on as you make your way through the underbrush, eyes scanning all areas. A crack of snapping twigs alerts you and you spin towards the sound as Leafsnail bursts out of a screen of leaves. Another shot slams into your chest and you grunt, slipping on wet leaves. Your reflexes take over and as you slide downwards you kick up, sending the creature flying over you to crash onto the jungle floor to roll into a tree. It springs upwards, but you're ready this time and a bolt of blue energy slams into its arm. It hisses and flinches backwards, the pistol slipping from its grip to thud into a pile of leaves.

  Growling the monster leaps at you, somersaulting over your blasts to land behind you. You spin to face it, only to feel a burning sensation as razor sharp claws rip through your neck. Your training takes over once again, however, and a flash of blue light explodes between you. As you struggle to stop the bleeding you see the creature collapse backwards, half its chest missing. You sink to the ground, your suit pumping chemicals into you as warning sirens go off in your head. The damage is too much, though, and you barely manage to stand again before everything goes dark, and you sink into oblivion.

  You have died, and your soul drifts off to limbo. http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/JH7QmpcZT6LE

--

Vector  Human  Guardian        Guard forsaken1111  Blocked

  You grab up your gear and prepare to head out into the night. Forsaken1111, if he is what he seems to be, will need your protection tonight. But as you start to pick up your coat, you feel something strange. A tightening around you, as if invisible chains were wrapped around you. You struggle, trying to break free, to get out the door. But you cannot, they wind tighter and tighter, your thoughts grow slower and your eyelids are so heavy you can barely keep them open. All you manage to do is collapse onto a beanbag chair before darkness overcomes you.

  You awaken the next morning, muscles stiff and head pounding. You're not sure what happened to you last night, but whatever it was certainly wasn't good for you!

Spoiler: Night 3 (click to show/hide)

forsaken1111  Human  Agent        Investigate Org  Human, dies

  Yeah head out once again, this time to see what Org might be. Your heart races at every sound, and you jump slightly at ever rustle of leaves in the underbrush. But you make it to Org's bungalow safely, and carefully spy on him. After about an hour or so you have decided that he displays none of the traits of a doppelganger, and can safely be deemed human.

  Once back at your hut you pull out your notebook and make a few notes. The number of threats has decreased, yes, but you have not found the last doppelganger yet. As you sit, making notes on each of the surviving people in the hotel, you feel a breeze ruffle your hair. Odd, you didn't leave a window open...

  With a rush of fear you stand up, just in time to see a doppelganger rise up from behind the chair. You reach for your gun, but the monster is too quick. With lightning fast reflexes it grab you by the throat and you hear a sickening crunch. You cannot breath, and as you struggle to bring up your gun the monster hurls you across the room to crash into the counter. Your gun flies from your grasp, but you can do nothing but try futily to gasp air through a crushed throat. Soon your vision swims, and all goes dark.

  You have died, and your soul drifts off to limbo: http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/JH7QmpcZT6LE
 
--


JanusTwoface  Doppelganger  Vengful Guard/Mind Shield        Kill forsaken1111  Kills

 You sneak off to forsaken1111's hut, only to find him gone. Shrugging, you open up a window and slide inside, content to wait for his return. Eventually you hear him enter and settle down in a chair. As he scribble something or other on a pad of paper you slowly creep towards him. Finally you come up to the back of the chair and rise up, finding yourself face-to-face with the human. He reaches for a weapon, but you are much faster than he. Your hand closes around his throat and crushes it. Struggling for breath he still tries to attack you, so you hurl him across the room to crash into the counter. His body slumps to the ground, the pistol far away from this outstretched hand as his face turns purple. Soon, he fades into death. Grinning, the bloodlust burning inside you, you feast upon the corpse.

--
   
Org  Human  Psychic Warden        Block Solifuge  Blocks

  Once again you sit at the lone table in the hut, your ceremonial artifacts before you. The candle flickers before you, drawing you mind into it's glittering dance, and you slip into the trance. This night you cast your mind out to Solifuge. The chains of power descend up on him, binding and holding him while his energy seeps away. Soon you feel the ritual complete, and your mind falls back into your body. He will do nothing tonight.
 
--
     
Solifuge  Human  Cutting Edge Scientist          Blocked

  You are sitting at your desk and reviewing the data from your Mind Control. Fascinating information here, and so much to go over! But after a bit you feel stiff, and tired. You try to get up and stretch but your muscles cannot move! You feel bound, as if invisible chains have been wound around you. Your eyes droop even as you struggle, and soon your head rests on your desk. Darkness claims you.

  You awaken the next morning stiff, hungry, and with a headache pounding on your skull.
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Vector  Human  Guardian        Protect Solifuge  Guards

  You head out as night falls and make your way silently to Solifuge's hut. You then find a secluded spot to watch from and settle down for a long wait. Fortunately, nothing interesting happens and you are able to head back to your hut for a few hours of sleep before dawn.
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Spoiler: Night 4 (click to show/hide)

JanusTwoface  Doppelganger  Vengful Guard/Mind Shield        Guard Org
 
  Suppressing the bloodlust is a bit difficult, but you stay in control of yourself and manage to watch over Org without giving in to the impulse to kill him. You do feel a strange tickling sensation in your mind, however, as if something keeps sliding around the outside of your awareness. Eventually it stops, however, and the rest of the night passes quietly.

--

Org  Human  Psychic Warden        Block Pandarsenic Blocks

  You hang up the phone on Solifuge and start to lay out your implements. You run the chain through your fingers for a bit before starting, staring at the crystal in thought. You shake your head a bit to clear you mind, and light the candle. The flickering lights draws you in again, and you slip into the trance. The chains of power are flung out towards JanusTwoFace, but this time something is wrong. You don't feel a tightening, but a slipping. The chains dissolve into ether around him. You try again, but your power seems to just slide around him. Again and again you cast the chains, until your body is shaking and your mind fuzzy with exhaustion. It is no use, though, your chains cannot bind him.

  You get up and stagger off to bed. You can only hope that things work out for the best.

Spoiler: Night 5 (click to show/hide)

JanusTwoface  Doppelganger  Vengful Guard/Mind Shield        Kill Org
 
  You return to Org's house once again. This time, however, your visit will not be so benign.

  Creeping up to the door you find it unlocked, and you slip in. Org is sitting at a table, his back to you. As you approach he stretches his arms up and leans back. You  swiftly grab his head in your hands and break his neck with a sharp crack. The body thumps forward onto the table, rattling a chain that slips off to the ground. His artifacts did him no good, however, so you pay them no mind. It is blood you are after this night, and blood you shall have.

--

Org  Human  Psychic Warden        Block Pandarsenic Blocks Die

  The flickering light of the candle glints off of the crystal. You stare at it for a while before finally finding your center and allowing yourself to go into the trance. You send out your spirit, this time seeking Pandarsenic. Unlike last night, your chains have no trouble binding him. You smile as you feel the chains wrap around him, bind him, and draw off his energy. You then release the power and slip back into yourself.

  You stretch your arms up and arch your back, trying to work out a few kinks. You wanted to get practice on this vacation, but constant nights of using your abilities is starting to exhaust you. Before you can finish that thought, however, a pair of hands grabs your head. You hear a sharp crack, and everything goes dark.

    You have died, and your soul drifts off to limbo. http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/JH7QmpcZT6LE

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Pandarsenic

  You sit in your hut, gun next to you on a side table. Your thoughts are grim as you think about the events that have occurred. Something is off, however. You start to feel a strange binding sensation, as if giant chains were being wrapped around you. You try to stand, but you cannot get up. You struggle, trying to get to your gun, but your arms seem bound to the chair! Soon your mind grows fuzzy, and you slip into a dreamless sleep.

  You awaken to the sound of birds the next morning. Loud birds. Birds that should just SHUT UP AND GO AWAY. Your head is pounding, and all you really want to do is go back to sleep for a few hours. But you can't do that. So you slowly drag yourself out of the chair and start to get ready.

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Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: Org on May 13, 2010, 08:16:15 pm

Night 4 said I blocked Pandar.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: RedWarrior0 on May 13, 2010, 08:21:12 pm

I really wouldve given a summary, it's just that I wasn't that focused and I did have little available time.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: Solifuge on May 13, 2010, 08:26:04 pm

Spoiler: Dopplechat: (click to show/hide)

Quote from: Dopplechat, JanusTwoface

Yeah... So I got a message from Solifuge that says he "knows I targeted Forsaken" last night.

That either means that Pandarsenic is a reporter or that Solifuge is bluffing. Either way, I really don't see much of a way out of this.

My best bet is for Pandarsenic to be lynched today and to kill Solifuge tonight. Then I have to convince Org that Vector is the last scum. That's if I don't get lynched on Pandarsenic's evidence.

Spoiler: Janus and I via PM: (click to show/hide)

Quote from: JanusTwoface on May 03, 2010, 07:41:57 pm

Quote from: Solifuge on May 03, 2010, 02:07:24 pm

So, last chance. Mind telling why you didn't target Org last night, and what your actual role is? Because you sure as heck weren't "bodyguarding" Forsaken last night.

Eh?  I did guard Org.  If someone told you different, than they are lying scum.  Since Org and you appear to be pairwise cleared and Forsaken cleared Vector (unless she's an Advanced Dopp perhaps), then it must be Pandarsenic.

Quote from: Solifuge on May 03, 2010, 07:45:27 pm

It was a entirely a bluff. In the event you were Forsaken's killer, I was hoping to squeeze an excuse out of you. >.o

Spoiler: Dopplechat: (click to show/hide)

Quote from: Dopplechatm JanusTwoface

Hahahha. Damn. Solifuge was totally bluffing. That's awesome! And this might just work out yet. If I can get either Pandarsenic or Vector lynched today, I can kill Org or Solifuge and the other tonight.

Actually, it would be better to get Vector killed because I'm immune to Org's power.

Mephansteras, another question: If there are two players alive during the a day, I can rise and overpower the other player even if they are a War Vet, correct?

Oh my... Janus, you rolled with that quite well. I was cranking out bluffs left and right, but I couldn't find a chink anywhere. Well played... you had me doubting up until the end, when I ment to use indifference to mask just how uncertain I was that you were Scum.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: ToonyMan on May 13, 2010, 08:35:03 pm

/me checks the dopp chat to see how they react to my exterminator night kill thing.
Janus seemed light-hearted heh.
Man, if I was a little less lucky I would have won as exterminator, I don't think that's ever happened.  Maaaaaaaaaaaaan.

I was doing so good.

Quote from: Janus

Right. Still awesome. I guess I should thank Toony at some point (I do think it was him).

You're welcome.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 13, 2010, 08:38:48 pm

Bah.  That was an interesting game at the very least.  I need to work on my end game a bit though.

Wish that I'd killed Org rather than guarding him that one night.  I really think that his ignoring your order (and forcing me to reveal my Mind Shield) won you the game.  Sigh.  Org being Org, turns out it can be useful sometimes.

Also, I'm a little surprised that no-one actually asked who I had guarded when I was redirected to Vector... :P  For anyone that doesn't read the dopp chat, I was originally guarding ToonyMan.  Turns out if that had gone through Leafsnail and I would have killed each other leaving the rest of you doppless... :P

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: ToonyMan on May 13, 2010, 08:39:29 pm

Then I would win.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 13, 2010, 08:41:06 pm

That Solifuge for that then... :P

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 13, 2010, 08:48:30 pm

This.

This is why I said to myself "Just shut and trust the wintuition."

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 13, 2010, 08:51:28 pm

Where is some evidence of that wintuition?  It's easy enough to claim when there's three players left and one is cleared.  And before that I seem to remember you being convinced that Vector was scum.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: ToonyMan on May 13, 2010, 08:52:25 pm

Admit it Pandar, you just flipped a coin.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: Solifuge on May 13, 2010, 08:56:23 pm

Org, I was vain and frustrated that you weren't doing what I'd asked. It was a logical plan, and I'd thought I'd explained it well enough. Nevertheless, in this instance you disagreeing did have positive results, so good on you.

Also, I was really hoping to redirect Janus onto someone who was being killed, and take them out as a surprise. Or better, find him to be a doppleganger, and redirect their kill. I was hoping it would force an inactive Dopple into being the main killer too... but you already had a benign action.

That was largely what had me doubting that you were Scum. If Org hadn't blocked Pandar the night you killed him, I'd have definately sided with you, Janus.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: Org on May 13, 2010, 09:12:10 pm

Quote from: JanusTwoface on May 13, 2010, 08:38:48 pm

Bah.  That was an interesting game at the very least.  I need to work on my end game a bit though.

Wish that I'd killed Org rather than guarding him that one night.  I really think that his ignoring your order (and forcing me to reveal my Mind Shield) won you the game.  Sigh.  Org being Org, turns out it can be useful sometimes.

Also, I'm a little surprised that no-one actually asked who I had guarded when I was redirected to Vector... :P  For anyone that doesn't read the dopp chat, I was originally guarding ToonyMan.  Turns out if that had gone through Leafsnail and I would have killed each other leaving the rest of you doppless... :P

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: webadict on May 13, 2010, 09:12:43 pm

Janustwoface = Bodyguard variant
Bodyguards = 3
Max 2 Bodyguards/Side
2 Town Bodyguards
Janustwoface = scum

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: Org on May 13, 2010, 09:15:02 pm

Good thing I didn't follow Soli's orders.
Looks like I helped win.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 13, 2010, 09:16:15 pm

Quote from: webadict on May 13, 2010, 09:12:43 pm

Janustwoface = Bodyguard variant
Bodyguards = 3
Max 2 Bodyguards/Side
2 Town Bodyguards
Janustwoface = scum

Vector was Guardian and Jokerman-EXE was Heroic Guard IIRC.  Guardian isn't a Bodyguard Variant, although I think that might have come up in Paranormal Discussion at some point, so there were only two Bodyguards in the game.

Quote from: Org on May 13, 2010, 09:15:02 pm

Good thing I didn't follow Soli's orders.
Looks like I helped win.

Just don't let it get to your head, yes?

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: RedWarrior0 on May 13, 2010, 09:37:48 pm

Meph didn't make it clear in the OP, but he did in dead chat.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 13, 2010, 09:47:06 pm

Ah.  Read the Dead Chat now.  Glad to know I wasn't suspected until the close to the end.  And that I do still need to work on my end game.

Mephansteras, could you make it more clear in the OP that Guardian is a Bodyguard variant?  I thought I remembered something about that, but I checked the roles and didn't see.  Heck if I was going to bring it up though.

And yes, I should have killed Org earlier.  Oh well.  There's always other games... :D

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 13, 2010, 10:08:04 pm

Quote from: JanusTwoface on May 13, 2010, 08:51:28 pm

Where is some evidence of that wintuition?  It's easy enough to claim when there's three players left and one is cleared.  And before that I seem to remember you being convinced that Vector was scum.

I still don't see how he was cleared. Also, I was blocked so it could've been either of you who was scum to me.

Though I was cleared because nobody counterclaimed blockee and thus I couldn't have killed.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 13, 2010, 10:15:04 pm

IIRC, Org blocked him the night that I killed Forsaken.  Org would have gotten flavor if Solifuge had been a dopp with a Mind Shield, so we knew he didn't have one and there was a kill with only one dopp left.  So it couldn't have been him.  I guess I could have tried to push it.  That would have been an interesting lynched.

And you could have been if you'd also had a Mind Shield.  Org was dead, so there's no way we would have been able to counter that claim.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: Mephansteras on May 13, 2010, 10:41:45 pm

Quote from: JanusTwoface on May 13, 2010, 09:47:06 pm

Mephansteras, could you make it more clear in the OP that Guardian is a Bodyguard variant?  I thought I remembered something about that, but I checked the roles and didn't see.  Heck if I was going to bring it up though.

Yeah, it'll be correct in the discussion thread as well as any future games. I just didn't want to change it mid-game because that could have tipped people off that they needed to pay more attention to it.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 13, 2010, 10:53:30 pm

I do thank you for that... That would have made life far more interesting.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: Mephansteras on May 13, 2010, 11:04:52 pm

Quote from: Org on May 13, 2010, 08:16:15 pm

Night 4 said I blocked Pandar.

That was a copy/paste error. I'd copied night 4 to give me the basics for night 5 and then accidentally started editing Night 4 instead. So I had to move stuff around, and I must have missed that part when correcting things. The actual messages are correct, though.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: Org on May 13, 2010, 11:07:11 pm

I know.
Just wanted to point that out.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: Solifuge on May 14, 2010, 01:29:17 pm

Quote from: Org on May 13, 2010, 09:15:02 pm

Good thing I didn't follow Soli's orders.
Looks like I helped win.

The wrong lesson to take from this would be "Don't go along with the plans of other people." I was suggesting a process of elimination. You shot that to pieces and randomly picked your own target, who was also the wrong target... but it was able to provide the info we needed to be able to go after the right player.

The right lesson to take from this would be "choose logical targets for lynches and role powers" and "share your plans and information with players you can trust" because had I not known you'd targeted Pandar, you'd have taken that secret to the grave, and we'd have probably bit it.

Title: Re: Paranormal Mafia - Round 15 - Game over!
Post by: Mephansteras on May 14, 2010, 04:38:07 pm

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