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Title: SYSTEM
Post by: Karnewarrior on April 24, 2011, 12:39:31 pm
(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu246/karnewarrior/Systemstart.png?t=1303666622)

The SYSTEM is empty. It needs a sun. Or two suns. Or possibly three. You can do whatever you like with this SYSTEM, but the ultimate goal is to get a sentient species out and make your mark on history.

So, what will it be?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Fniff on April 24, 2011, 01:04:42 pm
A green sun slowly forms over a millennium. It glows dimly but it will be there forever.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: ragnarok97071 on April 24, 2011, 01:08:22 pm
Gasses condense, swirling together to form a star. This star is a strange one, banded with all of the colors of the visible spectrum. It burns brightly, and will likely have very strange death throes. It is of average size.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: DinosaurusRex_x on April 24, 2011, 01:11:29 pm
You're inside a purple nebulus.  There is a double sun orbiting itself.  A smaller dense blue one and a large red one.

There are 4 planets orbiting them, one of them super large one with moons the size of the smallest planet in orbit, and a middle-sized one with rings.   There are also two asteroid belts.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: NightS on April 24, 2011, 01:25:18 pm
Just one sun, two would be too much heat and gravitational variations. A young small class F, G or K would be the best for it.

The colors and temp would be the following: F-Very light near white yellow 6,000–7,200 K, G-Light Yellow 5,500–6,000 K, K-Yellow 4,000–5,250 K. The sun is a G type star with a surface temp of 5700 K more or less. This may be useful as a reference point.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: rty275 on April 24, 2011, 02:27:31 pm
Three suns orbiting a supermassive planet from a long distance away.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: NightS on April 24, 2011, 02:32:29 pm
That is just phisically impossible, such a dense planet cannot exist physically, it would collapse on itself. (gravity is a bitch)
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: ragnarok97071 on April 24, 2011, 02:34:41 pm
I love how you say that about a massive planet, but don't even mention my star that utterly breaks logic.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: rty275 on April 24, 2011, 02:41:52 pm
What if it was a gaseous planet and the stars were white dwarfs?

EDIT: And what if it wasn't gaseous, but the orbit of the stars was perfect in such a way that their gravity countered the effects of the planets gravity just enough that the planet wouldn't collapse, but the surface would have an acceptable level of gravity?
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: ragnarok97071 on April 24, 2011, 02:42:42 pm
If a planet is massive enough to cause stars to orbit it, it's most likely massive enough to fuse.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: rty275 on April 24, 2011, 02:47:12 pm
See previous edit.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Karnewarrior on April 24, 2011, 04:18:21 pm
(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu246/karnewarrior/Systemsun.png?t=1303679787)

A sun is there. It is a greenish yellow color, and burns medium hot. It is perfect for a species to grow, if they had a planet...
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: NightS on April 24, 2011, 04:52:53 pm
I think stars cannot be green, but.. who minds :P

Small-medium sized rocky planet, a bit far from the sun. It has deserts of copper sulphate and it is diluded on most of its water, which also shares its space with small sulphuric acid pools inland. The copper sulphate gives the planet a beautiful blue colour, while its atmosphere is composed mainly of methane, acetylene and sulphur dyoxide. The atmosphere is very dense, and masks the blue planet with a whirling green colour. The greenhouse effect plus its distance from the sun makes it a slightly cold planet, maybe near the 4º celsius in the equator, but its strong geothermal energy (yay, magma!) gives the planet a pretty constant tepmprature.

Simplify this the best you can, i cannot, im sorry, i want a "realistc" weird planet xD
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Johnfalcon99977 on April 24, 2011, 07:11:34 pm
Small-medium sized rocky planet, a bit far from the sun. It has deserts of copper sulphate and it is diluded on most of its water, which also shares its space with small sulphuric acid pools inland. The copper sulphate gives the planet a beautiful blue colour, while its atmosphere is composed mainly of methane, acetylene and sulphur dyoxide. The atmosphere is very dense, and masks the blue planet with a whirling green colour. The greenhouse effect plus its distance from the sun makes it a slightly cold planet, maybe near the 4º celsius in the equator, but its strong geothermal energy (yay, magma!) gives the planet a pretty constant tepmprature.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Karnewarrior on April 27, 2011, 05:59:36 pm
(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu246/karnewarrior/Systemplanet1.png?t=1303944967)

You create a planet some ways from the sun, directly in the center of the Goldilocks Zone.

(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu246/karnewarrior/Systemcometimpact1.png?t=1303944967)

Oh dear. That seems rather... Large...

(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu246/karnewarrior/Systemnewmeteorbelt.png?t=1303944967)

You may need something to divert or catch those. A Gas Giant would work nicely here, assuming it was outside the orbit of your Living Planet. Of course, it can't be in the new Meteor Belt for obvious reasons. Or, if you wanted, a inventive solution to those pesky comets could be found.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: ragnarok97071 on April 27, 2011, 06:02:31 pm
STEP ONE: Redesign the sun so that when a comet enters the system, it sends out a small amount of it's fused material to grab them and drag them into the suns gravity well.
STEP 2: Have the sun reabsorb them.
STEP III: Break the ice down into hydrogen and Oxygen.
STEP D: Use these materials for great fusion.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: USEC_OFFICER on April 27, 2011, 06:04:22 pm
I think stars cannot be green, but.. who minds :P

I think it depends on the gases that make up the star, and the temperatures/fusion that occur in the star. Normally, stars are made out of hydrogen, helium and other atoms low on the periodic table. I assume that our sun is made up of some exotic gases, or we aren't using atoms from the periodic table.

But I digress.
STEP ONE: Redesign the sun so that when a comet enters the system, it sends out a small amount of it's fused material to grab them and drag them into the suns gravity well.
STEP 2: Have the sun reabsorb them.
STEP III: Break the ice down into hydrogen and Oxygen.
STEP D: Use these materials for great fusion.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Karnewarrior on April 27, 2011, 06:04:53 pm
STEP ONE: Redesign the sun so that when a comet enters the system, it sends out a small amount of it's fused material to grab them and drag them into the suns gravity well.
STEP 2: Have the sun reabsorb them.
STEP III: Break the ice down into hydrogen and Oxygen.
STEP D: Use these materials for great fusion.
That seems very.. Artificial, does it not?

Remember, everything in the universe has gravity. Everything
Giant Abe Lincoln FTW
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: ragnarok97071 on April 27, 2011, 06:06:37 pm
We're pretty much a god.

Puny things like the laws of physics don't apply to us.

Also, Rule of Cool.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: DinosaurusRex_x on April 27, 2011, 06:07:57 pm
Go supernova.

That'll teach comets to come knocking on our planet.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Karnewarrior on April 27, 2011, 08:37:12 pm
Go supernova.

That'll teach comets to come knocking on our planet.
Are you sure you want to restart? Y/N

We're pretty much a god.

Puny things like the laws of physics don't apply to us.

Also, Rule of Cool.
Alright, if that's the consensus, but the more artificial-looking phenomena the more strange and alien theories your people will come up with, and the more variety, which means more wars and more chance of failure.

For example, Sol is a 90% natural system, in game terms. A few oddities, but not too many. SYSTEM already is at this level just due to the suns coloration.

You get to play one tribe per species that develops. The better situated the planet, the more species, but also the more wars. Eventually, only one species will survive, probably being yours. If it isn't, it collapses and you get another chance to flourish. But right now you're trying to just get SYSTEM up and running before your star goes nova on it's own.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: choobakka on April 27, 2011, 09:12:22 pm
Create a large purple gas giant with green polka-dots. It will have exactly 23 moons. And a distinct lack of rings. The purple will be slightly swirly, and the spots will be migrating storms that move about its surface. All of the planets will have sufficient geothermal energy to be able to support life.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: NightS on April 28, 2011, 01:18:57 am
Create a large purple gas giant with green polka-dots. It will have exactly 23 moons. And a distinct lack of rings. The purple will be slightly swirly, and the spots will be migrating storms that move about its surface. All of the planets will have sufficient geothermal energy to be able to support life.

This but without the polka dots (how the eff are you going to expalin them also?)
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: DinosaurusRex_x on April 28, 2011, 01:31:11 am
Polka dots = unending storms.

Also, we require HEXAGONS ON OUR POLES

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzL194jiTyY

THERE'S A MOTHERFUCKING HEXAGON ON SATURN!!!   :o
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: NightS on April 28, 2011, 04:47:49 am
... ok but those dots must move (i mean, not unmovile storms, but this is just a dumb detail)
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Armok on April 28, 2011, 06:43:51 am
> make a tiny hevy planet rotating stupidly fast almost touching the star. It's made of iron and occasionally passes through magnetic features of the star causing it to send out EM pulses.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Karnewarrior on April 28, 2011, 02:10:06 pm
(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu246/karnewarrior/Systemironplanet.png?t=1304017525)

You make a small ball of molten iron quite close to the star. every once in a while it sends out a EM pulse, disrupting electronics across SYSTEM. Congratulations, you've managed to cause irreparable harm to a otherwise healthy-

O.K fine it's not that bad. Just a flare or two. Your Living Planet will need a strong EM field to counter it, though.

(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu246/karnewarrior/Systemgasgiant.png?t=1304017525)

...

~Barney was a dinosaur...~
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: USEC_OFFICER on April 29, 2011, 04:11:24 pm
Clearly, Barney's magnetic field will protect its moons from the harmful EM pulses, allowing some of the outer moons to support life (The inner ones get fried by Barney's magnetic field).

Remember that each of Barney's 23 moons could support life, and we have, what, 11 planets to grow a civilization on? (Probably less, as those on the outside would get burned by the EM pulses).
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: DinosaurusRex_x on April 29, 2011, 04:23:17 pm
Build a planet with an iron core right before the asteroid belt.  It gets smacked around by the occasional meteorite, but its atmosphere becomes thick after being hit by an ice comet storm and meteorites with protein codes on them.   After many years it starts swallowing asteroids and forming a couple of moons.   6, to be exact, ranging in size from kilometers in diameter to a hundred meters.

Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: choobakka on April 29, 2011, 04:41:16 pm
We must create life on Barney's 17th moon, hereon named Banegroves the Sphere of Epic. They will be small four-limbed hairy things that can only survive in magma vents in the ethanol sea.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Armok on April 29, 2011, 05:08:22 pm
Hardening stuff against EM isn't that hard, and depending on how things work out it might be usable as a power source.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Karnewarrior on April 30, 2011, 11:56:00 am
(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu246/karnewarrior/SystemLivingPlanet.png?t=1304182371)

You create a Living Planet!

(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu246/karnewarrior/SystemMoons.png?t=1304182371)

Some moons have been formed.

(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu246/karnewarrior/Systemareyousure.png?t=1304182371)

WARNING: Entering PLANET mode disables all Solar System alteration tools. You will no longer be able to form planets. The abilities will be regained when your Species is capable of such feats. Are you sure you wish to enter your Living Planet?
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: choobakka on April 30, 2011, 12:32:09 pm
Before we do that add a dwarf planet that scientists can argue about on the very edge of the solar system.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: NightS on April 30, 2011, 02:44:42 pm
Make the dwellers of the planet call the dwarf planet Urist and make one of the moons out of hematite and call it Armok
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Karnewarrior on April 30, 2011, 03:18:50 pm
(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu246/karnewarrior/Systemdwarfplanet.png?t=1304194039)

You add a little Dwarf planet first because why the hell not.

(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu246/karnewarrior/Systemwaterworld.png?t=1304194039)

You enter the Living Planet.

The world is covered in an ocean. There is no land, the rock and soil perfectly even 4500 meters below the ocean surface. It is up to you to create landmasses. You may create land of a certain shape, or if you wish, take the file into Photoshop(Godly Edition) and alter the world in that way. You may also simply specify a location and a random landmass of a general size will be formed.

On a landmass you may specify several Land Types:

1} Grasslands - Medium Food, low fertility, high visibility, low danger. Land begins as this by default.
2} Praries/savannas - low food, high fertility, high visibility, medium danger.
3} Tundra - low food, low fertility, high visibility, low danger.
4} Desert - low food, low/high fertility (with river), high visibility, high danger.
5} Forest - medium food, medium fertility, low visibility, medium danger.
6} Jungle - high food, low fertility, low visibility, high danger.
7} Swamp - medium food, medium fertility, low visibility, high danger.
8} Glacier - No food, no fertility, high visiblity, medium danger.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: ggamer on April 30, 2011, 04:05:22 pm
add a glacial mass to the south pole.

((What are you using to make the map?))
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Karnewarrior on April 30, 2011, 05:02:19 pm
photoshop. Just photoshop.

I suppose you can use MSPaint too, and if something needs to be blurred a bit I can do that myself.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Armok on April 30, 2011, 05:51:39 pm
> Apply perlin noise displacement map.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Karnewarrior on February 19, 2013, 01:06:56 pm
(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu246/karnewarrior/SystemVolcanoe_zpsad99539b.png?t=1361297064)

Glacial Ice caps form!

The sea levels receding have revealed previously hidden volcanoes. They begin filling the atmosphere with various compunds and gases!

The glacial ice cools surrounding air, causing minor winds to form.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 19, 2013, 01:09:45 pm
((Speaking of delayed updates))

PTW.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: GreatWyrmGold on February 19, 2013, 06:30:01 pm
Create a large continent encompassing the southeastern volcanic isle. It will be mountainous in the southeastern section, including the volcano, but swampy nearer the northern and western coasts and jungled elsewhere.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Remuthra on February 19, 2013, 06:55:45 pm
Create a small continent near the south pole that is made primarily of highly volcanic tundra.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Karnewarrior on February 19, 2013, 07:10:24 pm
(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu246/karnewarrior/Newisle_zps9a7d608c.png?t=1361318790)

A new island arises from the deep. It is long and carries a ridge on it's southern side.

A Super-Volcano has gone dormant.

A new Super-Volcano has arisen near the south pole.


The glacial ice cools the surrounding air, causing average winds.
Volcanoes continue to pump greenhouse gases and toxins into the atmosphere. However, the new ice caps mean the world is still cooling.
Existing supervolcanoes produce land.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: GreatWyrmGold on February 19, 2013, 07:42:49 pm
Create a new volcano towards the western edge of the map.
Seed smaller volcanoes as well.
Expand the land around all volcanoes.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Remuthra on February 19, 2013, 07:44:53 pm
Seed a volcano with a huge iron content.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: mcclay on February 19, 2013, 08:36:19 pm
In the west create a medium continent composed of prairie and jungle.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Karnewarrior on February 20, 2013, 01:17:10 pm
(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu246/karnewarrior/Continental_zps5da2e673.png?t=1361384188)
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Fniff on February 20, 2013, 01:37:33 pm
Create a desert that connected the lowest island and the largest island.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on February 20, 2013, 02:35:36 pm
Create a continent under the northern ice-sheet, extending southwards as a tundra, then connecting with forests to the large eastern continent, the landmass having a shape roughly like this:
(http://img.ie/f7qzi.png)

e: whoops - wrong pic.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: miauw62 on February 20, 2013, 02:41:58 pm
Reduce the temperature a bit to extend ice and reduce water, then raise some more land out of the sea to form a proper continent starting around the equator and going north.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: LordSlowpoke on February 20, 2013, 03:03:05 pm
Dump sand inside a random supervolcano.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: GreatWyrmGold on February 20, 2013, 04:06:29 pm
Reduce the temperature a bit to extend ice and reduce water, then raise some more land out of the sea to form a proper continent starting around the equator and going north.
Sounds like a good idea.

Dump sand inside a random supervolcano.
Why?
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Fniff on February 20, 2013, 04:10:31 pm
Experiment, I presume.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Aseaheru on February 20, 2013, 04:16:02 pm
Create land under the southern icecap with volcanoes forming, making small islands just past the edge of the southern ice cap.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Jbg97 on February 20, 2013, 04:26:37 pm
BURN EVERYTHING ON THE CONTINENTS. WE AIN'T MAKIN PUSSY-ASS LIFE HERE.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Fniff on February 20, 2013, 04:36:15 pm
I veto that to the third degree.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: GreatWyrmGold on February 20, 2013, 05:01:16 pm
BURN EVERYTHING ON THE CONTINENTS. WE AIN'T MAKIN PUSSY-ASS LIFE HERE.
-1
I regret that I cannot find a way to make those characters look like they are on fire to express the magnitude of my disapproval as well as my profound sense of irony.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Remuthra on February 20, 2013, 05:04:05 pm
Dump sand inside a random supervolcano.
+1.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Karnewarrior on February 20, 2013, 07:02:05 pm
(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu246/karnewarrior/BadIDea_zps3c9ed1b4.png?t=1361404746)

The sand is melted and resolidifies into glass, capping the super-volcano.

The glacial ice caps cease cooling the air. The wind has equalized at an average speed.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Remuthra on February 20, 2013, 07:04:42 pm
Get those ice caps cooling again!
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Jbg97 on February 20, 2013, 07:07:32 pm
MELT THE ICE CAPS.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Remuthra on February 20, 2013, 07:09:01 pm
MELT THE ICE CAPS.
Noooo!
Not the polar bears!
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Jbg97 on February 20, 2013, 07:11:34 pm
MELT THE ICE CAPS.
Noooo!
Not the polar bears!
FUCK THE POLE ICE
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Karnewarrior on February 20, 2013, 07:12:17 pm
Polar bears don't exist yet. The world has yet to generate life, only a semi-habitable environment.

There's not much oxygen yet.

MELT THE ICE CAPS.
Noooo!
Not the polar bears!
FUCK THE POLE ICE
OK I laughed at that one.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: jaass on February 20, 2013, 08:06:12 pm
Spawn Primitive life.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Remuthra on February 20, 2013, 08:07:03 pm
Quote
Polar bears don't exist yet. The world has yet to generate life, only a semi-habitable environment.

There's not much oxygen yet.
I knew it!
He's future assasinating unborn polar bears!
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Karnewarrior on February 20, 2013, 08:12:00 pm
Quote
Polar bears don't exist yet. The world has yet to generate life, only a semi-habitable environment.

There's not much oxygen yet.
I knew it!
He's future assasinating unborn polar bears!
BEAR ABORTION IS BOTH SIMPLE AND FUN
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: kopout on February 20, 2013, 08:29:08 pm
There's not much oxygen yet.

That is a good thing for primitive life as it would likly be anarobic!
 8)
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Remuthra on February 20, 2013, 08:32:19 pm
Does it have to have an oxygen rich atmosphere? We are God, after all.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Tsuchigumo550 on February 20, 2013, 08:37:04 pm
Put a mountain range along the islands at a lower height than the first one, to vary the height of the islands.


Find out what gases make up the atmosphere, and what layers are part of the atmosphere (if there is one)
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: GreatWyrmGold on February 20, 2013, 08:38:12 pm
Does it have to have an oxygen rich atmosphere? We are God, after all.
No.
In fact, if we constrain ourselves to an Earthlike history, we'd need to avoid pumping O2 into the atmosphere for a while.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: jaass on February 20, 2013, 08:39:55 pm
I say screw our evolution timeline lets make anaerobic bacteria, and see what happens.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Remuthra on February 20, 2013, 08:41:10 pm
I say make a silicon based biology.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Jbg97 on February 20, 2013, 08:41:50 pm
I say we dump fully fledged humans into the oceans and make them turn into mer-men and develop nuclear weapons for our amusement
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Remuthra on February 20, 2013, 08:43:03 pm
I say we dump fully fledged humans into the oceans and make them turn into mer-men and develop nuclear weapons for our amusement
That's it. I'm lobbying for robopolarbears.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Jbg97 on February 20, 2013, 08:44:12 pm
I say we dump fully fledged humans into the oceans and make them turn into mer-men and develop nuclear weapons for our amusement
That's it. I'm lobbying for robopolarbears.
Since we melt the ice caps will they need to be PirateRobotPolarBears?
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Remuthra on February 20, 2013, 08:45:01 pm
I say we dump fully fledged humans into the oceans and make them turn into mer-men and develop nuclear weapons for our amusement
That's it. I'm lobbying for robopolarbears.
Since we melt the ice caps will they need to be PirateRobotPolarBears?
That does sound pretty awesome.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: GreatWyrmGold on February 20, 2013, 08:48:46 pm
I say we dump fully fledged humans into the oceans and make them turn into mer-men and develop nuclear weapons for our amusement
-1

I say we dump fully fledged humans into the oceans and make them turn into mer-men and develop nuclear weapons for our amusement
That's it. I'm lobbying for robopolarbears.
Since we melt the ice caps will they need to be PirateRobotPolarBears?
That does sound pretty awesome.
If we do that (and I don't want to), we'd need to make them ninjas and zombies as well. At minimum.


Oh, and seeding life will probably disable terrain controls like making the life-planet disabled systemic controls.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Tsuchigumo550 on February 20, 2013, 08:52:52 pm
Why not get some bigger plants up and running? Like... Huge plants. But not elfy huge plants, but like, beer trees. With intoxicating fruit.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Remuthra on February 20, 2013, 08:55:13 pm
Why not get some bigger plants up and running? Like... Huge plants. But not elfy huge plants, but like, beer trees. With intoxicating fruit.
*cough*Sun Berries*/cough*
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Vgray on February 20, 2013, 09:17:34 pm
Create a continent under the northern ice-sheet, extending southwards as a tundra, then connecting with forests to the large eastern continent, the landmass having a shape roughly like this:
(http://img.ie/f7qzi.png)

e: whoops - wrong pic.

This.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: GreatWyrmGold on February 20, 2013, 09:31:46 pm
You talk, I act.

Create some mats of sargasso-like plants, but silicon-based, so big and thick they can function as small islands when creatures come along. Give them floating, juicy fruits. Also create some sort of animal to eat these fruits and spread the seeds within.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: LordSlowpoke on February 20, 2013, 09:34:23 pm
You talk, I act.

Create some mats of sargasso-like plants, but silicon-based, so big and thick they can function as small islands when creatures come along. Give them floating, juicy fruits. Also create some sort of animal to eat these fruits and spread the seeds within.

Dump sand inside.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Karnewarrior on February 20, 2013, 11:59:41 pm
Create a continent under the northern ice-sheet, extending southwards as a tundra, then connecting with forests to the large eastern continent, the landmass having a shape roughly like this:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

e: whoops - wrong pic.

This.
Unfortunately, you lack the ability to create large landmasses of defined shapes from nothing. You may attempt to extend land along those lines, should you wish to. Be aware that tectonic movement coupled with erosion will eventually make any and all shaped landmasses moot.




Warning, Creating life will end geologic simulation.
No further direct modifications will be possible to rock formations. No further landmass will be added. No further geologic-scale additions will be considered. Timescale will slow to a evolutionary timescale. If environment proves inhospitable to life, simulation will end. If player interference proves inhospitable to life, simulation will end. Early life is fragile.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: GreatWyrmGold on February 21, 2013, 05:19:53 pm
Ho hum. Continental drift works in this world, right?

Create some plants like silicon-based algae*, and some sponges*, and some silicon-based bacteria* living in various places, and some silicon-based fungi*, and silicon-based diatons*, and silicon-based protists* of various sorts, and a single species of carbon-based bacteria which lives by the hydrothermal vents.

Long-term goal:
Create some mats of sargasso-like plants, but silicon-based, so big and thick they can function as small islands when creatures come along. Give them floating, juicy fruits. Also create some sort of animal to eat these fruits and spread the seeds within.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: McMagma on February 21, 2013, 05:22:16 pm
Ho hum. Continental drift works in this world, right?

Create some plants like silicon-based algae*, and some sponges*, and some silicon-based bacteria* living in various places, and some silicon-based fungi*, and silicon-based diatons*, and silicon-based protists* of various sorts, and a single species of carbon-based bacteria which lives by the hydrothermal vents.

Long-term goal:
Create some mats of sargasso-like plants, but silicon-based, so big and thick they can function as small islands when creatures come along. Give them floating, juicy fruits. Also create some sort of animal to eat these fruits and spread the seeds within.
+1
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Vgray on February 21, 2013, 05:44:38 pm
Ho hum. Continental drift works in this world, right?

Create some plants like silicon-based algae*, and some sponges*, and some silicon-based bacteria* living in various places, and some silicon-based fungi*, and silicon-based diatons*, and silicon-based protists* of various sorts, and a single species of carbon-based bacteria which lives by the hydrothermal vents.

Long-term goal:
Create some mats of sargasso-like plants, but silicon-based, so big and thick they can function as small islands when creatures come along. Give them floating, juicy fruits. Also create some sort of animal to eat these fruits and spread the seeds within.
+2

Because Great Wyrm always has the best ideas.

I just realized how old this is....

No wonder it looked so familiar.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Tsuchigumo550 on February 21, 2013, 05:50:05 pm
+1 GWG's idea.

Also, create some non-silicone based creatures, to serve as another caste (like plant/animal/fungus, we currently have one kingdom)

I'm thinking something based on a Noble Gas, or Lithium. Because Lithium and H2O just looove each other.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: LordSlowpoke on February 21, 2013, 05:54:59 pm
Ho hum. Continental drift works in this world, right?

Create some plants like silicon-based algae*, and some sponges*, and some silicon-based bacteria* living in various places, and some silicon-based fungi*, and silicon-based diatons*, and silicon-based protists* of various sorts, and a single species of carbon-based bacteria which lives by the hydrothermal vents.

Dump sa-

damnit

Create boron-based volcano-dwelling fungi!
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Vgray on February 21, 2013, 06:09:19 pm
Our long term goal is now to create peaceful squid-people called the Boron.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Fishybang on February 21, 2013, 06:28:59 pm
PTW
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: NRDL on February 21, 2013, 06:37:41 pm
Ho hum. Continental drift works in this world, right?

Create some plants like silicon-based algae*, and some sponges*, and some silicon-based bacteria* living in various places, and some silicon-based fungi*, and silicon-based diatons*, and silicon-based protists* of various sorts, and a single species of carbon-based bacteria which lives by the hydrothermal vents.

Long-term goal:
Create some mats of sargasso-like plants, but silicon-based, so big and thick they can function as small islands when creatures come along. Give them floating, juicy fruits. Also create some sort of animal to eat these fruits and spread the seeds within.

+1
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: GreatWyrmGold on February 21, 2013, 06:40:16 pm
Also, create some non-silicone based creatures, to serve as another caste (like plant/animal/fungus, we currently have one kingdom)
If you'd notice, I added some carbon-based life.

Quote
I'm thinking something based on a Noble Gas, or Lithium. Because Lithium and H2O just looove each other.[/i]
Create boron-based volcano-dwelling fungi!
You can't create life "based" on just any element. The element needs to be able to bind with several other elements in a versatile number of ways. The best elements for that are probably those in Period 14, for various reasons related to valance electrons...so, carbon, silicon, maybe germanium, maybe maybe tin or lead.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Aseaheru on February 21, 2013, 06:44:54 pm
Lets get some Germanium based things on one of the icecaps. i vote the southern ones.
four arms/legs small and 6 fingers on each limb. and a tail.
think smart monkey
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: GreatWyrmGold on February 21, 2013, 06:47:54 pm
Lets get some Germanium based things on one of the icecaps. i vote the southern ones.
four arms/legs small and 6 fingers on each limb. and a tail.
think smart monkey
Start simple. There's no life on land yet; we're still Precambrian. No monkies yet.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Aseaheru on February 21, 2013, 06:51:56 pm
eventually?

perhaps a creature that live at a volcano that blows them around the world?
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Nosaneinme on February 21, 2013, 06:52:45 pm
Lets get some Germanium based things on one of the icecaps. i vote the southern ones.
four arms/legs small and 6 fingers on each limb. and a tail.
think smart monkey
Start simple. There's no life on land yet; we're still Precambrian. No monkies yet.

Then Make Crazyest Life form to made by human mind
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Karnewarrior on February 21, 2013, 07:03:35 pm
To everyone voting for Non-carbon based life: Silicate lifeforms on this planet would either be glacially slow to do everything, not making a very good game and also not evolving fast enough to escape before the sun goes supernova, or would die from the relatively absolutely freezing tempratures of the planet.

You guys made a earth-like planet. Just warning you because it would seem cruel to have your life die on the first post in the Evolution scale.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: NRDL on February 21, 2013, 07:09:04 pm
Make Carbon based micro-organisms then. 
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: CyberUrist on February 21, 2013, 07:34:44 pm
Make Carbon based micro-organisms then.
+1.

Also, unimportant germanium-based or silicate extremophile bacteria living in the/a volcano(s).
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Tsuchigumo550 on February 21, 2013, 07:46:39 pm
Also, create some non-silicone based creatures, to serve as another caste (like plant/animal/fungus, we currently have one kingdom)
If you'd notice, I added some carbon-based life.

Quote
I'm thinking something based on a Noble Gas, or Lithium. Because Lithium and H2O just looove each other.[/i]
Create boron-based volcano-dwelling fungi!
You can't create life "based" on just any element. The element needs to be able to bind with several other elements in a versatile number of ways. The best elements for that are probably those in Period 14, for various reasons related to valance electrons...so, carbon, silicon, maybe germanium, maybe maybe tin or lead.

The positive ones would work too, Lithium is one of the highly reactive ones, and Flourine... jesus.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: LordSlowpoke on February 21, 2013, 07:48:50 pm
Also, create some non-silicone based creatures, to serve as another caste (like plant/animal/fungus, we currently have one kingdom)
If you'd notice, I added some carbon-based life.

Quote
I'm thinking something based on a Noble Gas, or Lithium. Because Lithium and H2O just looove each other.[/i]
Create boron-based volcano-dwelling fungi!
You can't create life "based" on just any element. The element needs to be able to bind with several other elements in a versatile number of ways. The best elements for that are probably those in Period 14, for various reasons related to valance electrons...so, carbon, silicon, maybe germanium, maybe maybe tin or lead.

good sir i did my research and at this stage of tectonic activity boron-based lifeforms inside of volcanoes are nothing that should be considered impossible considering boron's chemistry is actually even more variable than carbon's and this stuff even has its own wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothetical_types_of_biochemistry) which you can use as a springboard to even more sources supporting my pseudoresearch

arararararar
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Jbg97 on February 21, 2013, 07:52:11 pm
Also, create some non-silicone based creatures, to serve as another caste (like plant/animal/fungus, we currently have one kingdom)
If you'd notice, I added some carbon-based life.

Quote
I'm thinking something based on a Noble Gas, or Lithium. Because Lithium and H2O just looove each other.[/i]
Create boron-based volcano-dwelling fungi!
You can't create life "based" on just any element. The element needs to be able to bind with several other elements in a versatile number of ways. The best elements for that are probably those in Period 14, for various reasons related to valance electrons...so, carbon, silicon, maybe germanium, maybe maybe tin or lead.

good sir i did my research and at this stage of tectonic activity boron-based lifeforms inside of volcanoes are nothing that should be considered impossible considering boron's chemistry is actually even more variable than carbon's and this stuff even has its own wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothetical_types_of_biochemistry) which you can use as a springboard to even more sources supporting my pseudoresearch

arararararar
Too variable. So variable in fact, it cannot make viable life.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Urist McDwarfFortress on February 21, 2013, 07:57:29 pm
We should seed some silicon-based life on one of the moons of Barney, for future !!Fun!!
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Jbg97 on February 21, 2013, 08:00:11 pm
I say we should set up an area for carbon based life, and another area for silicon based life. Then later, we can have an era of racism and war, finally closing the debate of whether carbon or silicon based life is better.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: LordSlowpoke on February 21, 2013, 08:01:58 pm
Also, create some non-silicone based creatures, to serve as another caste (like plant/animal/fungus, we currently have one kingdom)
If you'd notice, I added some carbon-based life.

Quote
I'm thinking something based on a Noble Gas, or Lithium. Because Lithium and H2O just looove each other.[/i]
Create boron-based volcano-dwelling fungi!
You can't create life "based" on just any element. The element needs to be able to bind with several other elements in a versatile number of ways. The best elements for that are probably those in Period 14, for various reasons related to valance electrons...so, carbon, silicon, maybe germanium, maybe maybe tin or lead.

good sir i did my research and at this stage of tectonic activity boron-based lifeforms inside of volcanoes are nothing that should be considered impossible considering boron's chemistry is actually even more variable than carbon's and this stuff even has its own wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothetical_types_of_biochemistry) which you can use as a springboard to even more sources supporting my pseudoresearch

arararararar
Too variable. So variable in fact, it cannot make viable life.

there i went and pulled up an article which doesn't support me in any way, claim my research was pseudoresearch in the same post and generally babble around and they grab me by the other end of the argument and smash it again

you guys ;_;
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Tsuchigumo550 on February 21, 2013, 08:22:06 pm
This is a Bay12 full scale evolution game. An argument on feasibility had to happen, or this wouldn't be considered a success.

Anyway.

I'm all for volcanic Boronites, but we need something ready to evolve in an explosive way. Volcanoes aren't a great place to spread life.

!!FUN!! yes, life... maybe not. Though, if the Boronites, the Carbonites, and the Siliconites all spread, we could have a Columbus Meets The Natives event on scales unheard of... should they all survive. I'm still all for a Lithiumite, but Lithium is a metal. I'd say we at least need to use things from the nonmetals that are not gases at room temperature or are more common in forms that are not gases.

+1 Boron
+1 Carbon
±0 Silicon, in my vote.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Jbg97 on February 21, 2013, 08:25:35 pm
How about positroniumites? It wouldn't work at all, but we're God so it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: GreatWyrmGold on February 21, 2013, 09:15:01 pm
You can't create life "based" on just any element. The element needs to be able to bind with several other elements in a versatile number of ways. The best elements for that are probably those in Period 14, for various reasons related to valance electrons...so, carbon, silicon, maybe germanium, maybe maybe tin or lead.
The positive ones would work too, Lithium is one of the highly reactive ones, and Flourine... jesus.
[/quote]
There is such a thing as too reactive. It's called "unstable."

Anyways...if possible, how about both silicon- and carbon-based microbes? And maybe boron, if that would actually work.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Tsuchigumo550 on February 21, 2013, 09:22:46 pm
I'm pretty sure Boron could. Probably, however, wouldn't ascend farther than small animals if that- Silicon could form some pretty advanced stuff but I can imagine that would take some huge amounts of time and, in all likelyhood, silicons would be closer to plants of some nature than active creatures. Carbon is our best bet even if it is decidedly boring. Phosphorous or Potassium could be a good choice.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Aseaheru on February 22, 2013, 09:34:42 am
can we still get some germanium life somewhere?
like on the Dwarf world? it wont need to be large... just enough that whatever we create can find it someday.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Remuthra on February 22, 2013, 02:49:59 pm
If the temperatures are way too low for silicon based life, let's make some other life base for our oceans, boron would be cool.
And make some silicon based creatures living inside the supervolcanoes.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Tsuchigumo550 on February 22, 2013, 03:55:27 pm
oh yeah, silicates are high-heat. forgot lo:
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Karnewarrior on February 22, 2013, 04:34:42 pm
(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu246/karnewarrior/indubitablystupid_edited-1_zps8b0cbd3b.png?t=1361568524)

LIFE HAS BEEN FORMED!

(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu246/karnewarrior/newbug_zpsd91bd5c5.png?t=1361568442)

It seems to have advanced slightly while you were zooming in. But it's still lacking something... Something beyond other life to play with.

The white hexagons are dissolved minerals such as salts and metals. The red helixes are naturally occuring proteins in the primeval slurry, i.e. Life that has yet to develop any kind of shell. The white cell in the center is the first full Life on the planet. The other molecules don't react.

You may not directly control the White Cell. However, you may modify it's environment. The Cell will react to most stimuli; but it's still a single cell. It doesn't have any cognitive processes yet! Try not to kill it, for if you do, and it has not yet bred, your SYSTEM will be lost, and the simulation will end.

Life is a fragile and precious thing. Protect it.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Remuthra on February 22, 2013, 04:39:44 pm
Throw some minerals at the cell, to try to get it to form a mineral shell.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 22, 2013, 04:41:09 pm
((How did we manage to create a parasite(virus) without it having anything to parasite on.

Besides, virii are questionably alive.))
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: LordSlowpoke on February 22, 2013, 04:42:52 pm
Gently pat the cell with glucose.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Karnewarrior on February 22, 2013, 04:43:41 pm
((How did we manage to create a parasite(virus) without it having anything to parasite on.

Besides, virii are questionably alive.))
*cell

That's what I meant.

It's more ameaboa(SP)-like than anything, though.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Jbg97 on February 22, 2013, 04:44:31 pm
EARTHQUAKE. Shaking is what caused the first cells to undergo meiosis.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Scelly9 on February 22, 2013, 04:47:37 pm
Gently pat the cell with glucose.
+1
Then
Throw some minerals at the cell, to try to get it to form a mineral shell.
+1, but gently/.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Aseaheru on February 22, 2013, 04:53:22 pm
+1  to both and to earthquake.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Scelly9 on February 22, 2013, 04:55:07 pm
I think we should hold off on the shaking until we get big enough that a hard collision with a big mineral wouldn't wipe us out instantly.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Aseaheru on February 22, 2013, 04:57:25 pm
yes.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: GreatWyrmGold on February 22, 2013, 05:34:57 pm
I think we should hold off on the shaking until we get big enough that a hard collision with a big mineral wouldn't wipe us out instantly.
Agreed.

Also examine cellular structures more carefully. Does it have pDNA already or is it still in the pRNA stage?
(The p's stand for "pseudo.")
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: NRDL on February 22, 2013, 08:13:35 pm
Spawn glucose around it.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: javierpwn on February 22, 2013, 09:17:21 pm
Spawn glucose around it.
GLUCOSE IS A CARBON BASED MOLECULE!!!
IT JUST BREAKS DOWJ INTO ADENASINE TRIPHOSPHATE!

WE HAVE A SILICON BASED LIFE-FORM
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Karnewarrior on February 22, 2013, 09:19:50 pm
Spawn glucose around it.
GLUCOSE IS A CARBON BASED MOLECULE!!!
IT JUST BREAKS DOWJ INTO ADENASINE TRIPHOSPHATE!

WE HAVE A SILICON BASED LIFE-FORM
No you don't. It's in water. If it was based on Silicon it would be dead. Or so slow as to appear that way.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: javierpwn on February 22, 2013, 09:22:49 pm
I thought we did.....

Also, glucose is pretty complex disaccharide, which requires special processes, and proteins to deconstruct
Give it some sucrose and ATP
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Tsuchigumo550 on February 22, 2013, 10:51:29 pm
Add chemical crystals that slowly react with the clusters already there, such as if that was Na, add Cl, to form an element vital to our new life that will be plentiful in water.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: GreatWyrmGold on February 22, 2013, 10:55:35 pm
What did we make the life based on? Boron or carbon?
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: NRDL on February 22, 2013, 10:58:34 pm
To everyone voting for Non-carbon based life: Silicate lifeforms on this planet would either be glacially slow to do everything, not making a very good game and also not evolving fast enough to escape before the sun goes supernova, or would die from the relatively absolutely freezing tempratures of the planet.

You guys made a earth-like planet. Just warning you because it would seem cruel to have your life die on the first post in the Evolution scale.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Remuthra on February 22, 2013, 11:07:13 pm
To everyone voting for Non-carbon based life: Silicate lifeforms on this planet would either be glacially slow to do everything, not making a very good game and also not evolving fast enough to escape before the sun goes supernova, or would die from the relatively absolutely freezing tempratures of the planet.

You guys made a earth-like planet. Just warning you because it would seem cruel to have your life die on the first post in the Evolution scale.
Does not help whatsoever.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: GreatWyrmGold on February 22, 2013, 11:08:04 pm
To everyone voting for Non-carbon based life: Silicate lifeforms on this planet would either be glacially slow to do everything, not making a very good game and also not evolving fast enough to escape before the sun goes supernova, or would die from the relatively absolutely freezing tempratures of the planet.

You guys made a earth-like planet. Just warning you because it would seem cruel to have your life die on the first post in the Evolution scale.
Does not help whatsoever.
All that says is that it would be stupid to make silicon life.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Nosaneinme on February 22, 2013, 11:14:27 pm
Have  amendment to back Make This Planet mode,Is that if Possible that game move to haul because this
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Karnewarrior on February 23, 2013, 12:35:48 am
What did we make the life based on? Boron or carbon?
Carbon. I've never heard of Boron as a viable candidate for life. I know zilch about what life made of Boron would have to act like different from Carbon-based life.

And Silcate life would die. So Carbon.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Remuthra on February 23, 2013, 09:57:41 am
What did we make the life based on? Boron or carbon?
Carbon. I've never heard of Boron as a viable candidate for life. I know zilch about what life made of Boron would have to act like different from Carbon-based life.

And Silcate life would die. So Carbon.
Just to note, Silicate is something completely different than Silicon. Silicate is made up of silicon and oxygen.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Descan on February 23, 2013, 04:20:24 pm
I just wanna say why would Silicon life necessarily be slow and hard? Carbon-based life is squishy but all (I think?) other carbon forms we know of are either combustible (coal) or hard-as-fuck (diamond).

Just saying.

Of course, if silicon life is squishy too, what's the point in doing it? It wouldn't change anything.

... This is just a long way to say PTW.

Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: GreatWyrmGold on February 23, 2013, 04:31:39 pm
Silicon-based life has two big advantages over carbon-based that you're ignoring.

1. Sand and other sediments contain lots of silicon. Terravores wouldn't be entirely ridiculous.
2. It's cool to be different.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Remuthra on February 23, 2013, 04:33:56 pm
Can we still create life? I don't think it said anywhere we couldn't.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: miauw62 on February 24, 2013, 04:46:28 am
Let's just go with what we know: Carbon.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Aseaheru on February 24, 2013, 03:36:00 pm
WE HAVE LIFE.
lets keep it alive, shall we?
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: alamoes on March 08, 2013, 08:36:29 pm
HAH!  Let us play with some chemicals.  Some chemical has to make it divide so we have more to work with. ;)  We should find out what element it is made from first, if it is boring old carbon, or something interesting, like iron based life.  Let us first test how it will react with its natural surroundings.  We should spawn a molecule of DeoxyriboNucleic Acid of random genes.  Actually we should probably let our cell roam before the beginning of our meddlings with life. 
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Tsuchigumo550 on March 08, 2013, 08:52:21 pm
Give our little critter some NaCl.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Rolepgeek on March 08, 2013, 08:54:23 pm
Screw silicon based, make lead based. Or better and weirder; argon based.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Remuthra on March 08, 2013, 08:55:53 pm
But that's physically imposs-
Bay 12 Rejects Your Conventional Logic!
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Nosaneinme on March 08, 2013, 09:14:56 pm
But that's physically imposs-
Bay 12 Rejects Your Conventional Logic!

How do know yet,You Human never Get off this Rock yet so and There A lot thing about matter yet do not unterstand
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: GreatWyrmGold on March 08, 2013, 10:07:34 pm
We do, however, understand chemistry pretty well. And if elements don't work the same in space as they do on Earth, might as well throw everything out.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Nosaneinme on March 08, 2013, 10:11:41 pm
We do, however, understand chemistry pretty well. And if elements don't work the same in space as they do on Earth, might as well throw everything out.

Do know all human knowledge about universe you get number like this 0.0000000001 and What know Matter is that Reaction and Bonding and Small is Bigger also this,My Father Explain me this long time ago

Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Tsuchigumo550 on March 08, 2013, 10:16:25 pm
Laws are still laws. Most of our knowledge of chemistry is lawful, meaning that, unless we start finding areas of the universe that break basic law, such as other dimensions, then we get no deviation. New elements would doubtfully create life due to their great size- stability and reactivity become problems- not to mention the amount of electrons required for that kind of thing. You'd be suprised at how much of the lower periodic table is man-made, and the still large amount of elements that simply refuse to exist for long in our world.

Not to be mean, but is English your first language? I don't want to be that guy who's an insensitive dick when explaining things. Even if we had workarounds, which are feasible depending on what theories you believe, they simply wouldn't work in a law-based game such as this.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: GreatWyrmGold on March 08, 2013, 10:17:33 pm
We do, however, understand chemistry pretty well. And if elements don't work the same in space as they do on Earth, might as well throw everything out.
Do know all human knowledge about universe you get number like this 0.0000000001 and What know Matter is that Reaction and Bonding and Small is Bigger also this,My Father Explain me this long time ago
Guess what matters most for this particular problem?
Reaction and Bonding
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Tsuchigumo550 on March 08, 2013, 10:21:32 pm
Yeah, larger elements and metals are the assholes of the elemental world when it comes to that kind of thing, too. Metals change their valence electrons for fun because of their makeup, Iron(II) and Iron(III) and all that crap, then the fact that larger elements have a disturbing tendency to not like existing for more than thirty seconds, and in those thirty seconds, spew radiation all over the friggin place.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Nosaneinme on March 08, 2013, 10:23:45 pm
Yeah, larger elements and metals are the assholes of the elemental world when it comes to that kind of thing, too. Metals change their valence electrons for fun because of their makeup, Iron(II) and Iron(III) and all that crap, then the fact that larger elements have a disturbing tendency to not like existing for more than thirty seconds, and in those thirty seconds, spew radiation all over the friggin place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=w2xzIgdD_XA

This Video Will Explain everything
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Remuthra on March 08, 2013, 10:26:20 pm
That video explained everything!*

*by which I mean it has no bearing on this discussion whatsoever
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: GreatWyrmGold on March 08, 2013, 10:29:21 pm
That video explained everything!*

*by which I mean it has no bearing on this discussion whatsoever
Aye. We're discussing physics, not philosophy.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Tsuchigumo550 on March 08, 2013, 10:31:06 pm
The game has to adhere to known law though.

Our reality is one universe. So yeah, doing the quantum shuffle could land you in Lead-Yttrium-AWESOMEium land, but unfortunately, we can't slaughter the beautiful engine we've been given without killing the rest of the game with it.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Nosaneinme on March 08, 2013, 10:32:12 pm
That video explained everything!*

*by which I mean it has no bearing on this discussion whatsoever
Aye. We're discussing physics, not philosophy.
*Leaves,No never to again by this fourm
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Tsuchigumo550 on March 08, 2013, 10:49:44 pm
I hate to do that, and while I feel like the previously mentioned insensitive dick, I also feel kind of... justified? He wasn't trolling as far as I could tell. Seemed too young, maybe? I don't know.


Anyway, back to CARBON VS SILICON DEATHMATCH
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Remuthra on March 08, 2013, 10:52:21 pm
Would it be possible to create a race of biomachines?
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: GreatWyrmGold on March 08, 2013, 11:03:18 pm
Would it be possible to create a race of biomachines?
Be more specific. When it's made of life, "machine" is a bit tough to define...
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Remuthra on March 09, 2013, 07:13:48 am
Would it be possible to create a race of biomachines?
Be more specific. When it's made of life, "machine" is a bit tough to define...
I mean augmenting a creature with parts made form other compounds, such as giving organisms naturally metallic bodies, so essentially they are born cyborgs.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: GreatWyrmGold on March 09, 2013, 08:23:24 am
Would it be possible to create a race of biomachines?
Be more specific. When it's made of life, "machine" is a bit tough to define...
I mean augmenting a creature with parts made form other compounds, such as giving organisms naturally metallic bodies, so essentially they are born cyborgs.
I can't think of any reason why not, but I still doubt that's possible without significant meddling...
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: ragnarok97071 on March 09, 2013, 08:29:00 am
Well, unless we have them usually do something that causes them to absorb a lot of minerals and then excrete them through their skin.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Aseaheru on March 09, 2013, 09:23:55 pm
OK. We have life, lest not talk about what it will be or replacing it until our life ether dies or grows enough for evolution.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Jbg97 on March 10, 2013, 12:53:37 am
We need the element of irony in high amounts. Everyone knows that life cant survive without irony.
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: CyberUrist on March 11, 2013, 11:08:23 am
We need the element of irony in high amounts. Everyone knows that life cant survive without irony.
Then what about surprise? Huh? What about the Elements of Harmony? Huh? What about THOSE elements?
Title: Re: SYSTEM
Post by: Nosaneinme on March 11, 2013, 03:40:27 pm
We need the element of irony in high amounts. Everyone knows that life cant survive without irony.
Then what about surprise? Huh? What about the Elements of Harmony? Huh? What about THOSE elements?
No,How about love as food and Carbon as it shell

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