Post by: Twiggie on February 03, 2013, 08:14:38 am
We will be playing SMAC, not SMAX. Please download and install patch 4.0 (http://games.softpedia.com/progDownload/Sid-Meier-s-Alpha-Centauri-Patch-Download-45620.html)
Turn Counter (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnQSCJarXKxydHFWN28tU0VTUldVQWVJWlEwR3BGTnc#gid=0)
Standard rules apply:
Those found to be cheating (by the GM, me), will be kicked and banned.
If you're unsure what counts as cheating, contact me first.
I am counting exploiting rush-buying as cheating, by the way.
Don't be a dick.
Player agreements will not be enforced by the GM.
Please also read these (http://alphacentauri.us/pbemrules.html) rules.
Sign-ups in turn order:
Postal83 (Gaians)
PTTG?? (Peacekeepers)
Un67 (Hive)
GlyphGryph (Believers)
Karlito (Spartans)
Twiggie (Morganites)
Made of Time(University)
Settings:
Ocean, erosive, native, cloud: average
All victories enabled
No blind research
Size: Large
Difficulty: Thinker
No Co-operative Victory
Do or Die disabled
Post by: postal83 on February 03, 2013, 09:31:15 am
Post by: Un67 on February 03, 2013, 10:19:38 am
Faction: I dunno. I'll see when we get there. The Human Hive, maybe?
Difficulty: I'd prefer Talent or at the most the one above that. I'm not that experienced with this game.
Post by: Twiggie on February 03, 2013, 10:28:11 am
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 03, 2013, 10:35:16 am
Edit: I'd think I'd go for the dedicated tech faction*.
*University thingy, right?
Post by: Twiggie on February 03, 2013, 10:37:10 am
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 03, 2013, 10:37:57 am
Well, I'd rather not have complete newbies play. If you can play half a dozen solid games against the AI by the time we start you should be fine though.I think that might be a better idea.
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 03, 2013, 11:40:55 am
I've played a LOT of this game and I'm not sure if I've got "a half dozen solid games" under my belt. :P
Post by: postal83 on February 03, 2013, 11:41:40 am
Post by: Twiggie on February 03, 2013, 12:11:08 pm
I'd say doing some research and then 2 or 3 games combined with some more looking into tactics would be MORE than enough. A half dozen solid games? Seems a bit like overkill to be honest, unless they are ultra-small maps with accelerated tech.
I've played a LOT of this game and I'm not sure if I've got "a half dozen solid games" under my belt. :P
haha yeah :p winning a dozen times on citizen is nowhere near as hard as winning on transcend, though.
Post by: Twiggie on February 03, 2013, 12:31:59 pm
Also Glyph, playing?
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 03, 2013, 01:19:29 pm
Not playing on citizen though.I'd say doing some research and then 2 or 3 games combined with some more looking into tactics would be MORE than enough. A half dozen solid games? Seems a bit like overkill to be honest, unless they are ultra-small maps with accelerated tech.
I've played a LOT of this game and I'm not sure if I've got "a half dozen solid games" under my belt. :P
haha yeah :p winning a dozen times on citizen is nowhere near as hard as winning on transcend, though.
Also, read through the tech list. It's quite interesting.
Post by: Twiggie on February 03, 2013, 01:39:30 pm
Also I want to advocate for SMAX - extra secret projects, extra sea improvement facilities, extra techs, extra races, extra awesome.
Also there's an option for a turn timer, I'm planning on having it at the highest setting - 45 seconds or (4*bases+4*units) seconds, whichever is higher.
Post by: Un67 on February 03, 2013, 02:55:34 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 03, 2013, 09:57:45 pm
I'd love to play though, assuming no SMAX. Might be best to have one session where we can all show up for the first several turns if we can and then switch to PBEM. But PBEM is fine, even though I've never done it before.
What are victory conditions going to be, esp. in regards to allied victories? You say "all victory conditions", but I think everyone allying right off the bat would be against the spirit of the game... :P
Post by: Twiggie on February 04, 2013, 08:35:44 am
Post by: Il Palazzo on February 04, 2013, 09:10:05 am
I might have another player from outside the forums willing to give this a go, but I'd need a couple days to contact him.
You guys ok with waiting?
I'd vote for the vanilla SMAC, by the way.
Post by: Twiggie on February 04, 2013, 10:23:04 am
I've chosen the Morganites, btw. Make your choice quickly or get stuck!
There should totally be a way to have duplicate factions.
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 04, 2013, 10:26:51 am
Post by: Il Palazzo on February 04, 2013, 10:32:31 am
Let me get in touch with him, and should you find somebody else to fill both the spots, then we'll just look somewhere else.
And should we make it in after all, I'll take whatever's left.
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 04, 2013, 10:35:41 am
If Il Palazzo's friend comes in, I'm willing to bow out and just follow along, assuming this game gets documented in-forum. :P
Post by: Il Palazzo on February 04, 2013, 10:37:58 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 04, 2013, 10:42:28 am
Also, if we are full up on players, difficulty matters a whole lot less, right? It's essentially just a question of how easy we want it to be for Drones to revolt?
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 04, 2013, 11:09:50 am
Post by: Sharp on February 04, 2013, 11:44:38 am
Also PBEM with 7 players can take ridiculously long times. My experience is the opposite of Palazzo, pretty much anything above 2 players with PBEM can take a long time and for a game like Alpha Centauri it can take a long long time for 7 players to even get a few turns in a PBEM game.
Dedicated TCP/IP sessions would be better, if I recall correctly you can always get people to stand in or let the AI control a faction.
However it does depend on the players, if everyone can pretty much be sure they are checking for updates frequently then it can go quite smoothly.
Post by: Il Palazzo on February 04, 2013, 11:57:20 am
The TCP/IP has problems with organising players from various timezones to "meet", especially since there's going to be more than one meeting, and then keeping them in front of the screen while they wait for their turn - and it easily takes half an hour or more for it to come back to you, even in the early stages of the game.
Post by: postal83 on February 04, 2013, 12:18:18 pm
EDIT: Also, I vote for SMAC, Large map
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 04, 2013, 01:28:57 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 04, 2013, 01:37:37 pm
I vote for smallest map possible. ;)
how surprising :D
Post by: PTTG?? on February 04, 2013, 01:46:15 pm
SMAX, preferably. I've never played the pirates before, but I understand they're very powerful. Elsewise, I'll take the religious morons, or maybe the hive.
Post by: Twiggie on February 04, 2013, 02:02:35 pm
EDIT: sorry, i didnt read il Palazzo's post: PTTG, you're in if the next player to join is not palazzo's friend.
Post by: Twiggie on February 04, 2013, 03:04:06 pm
We'll also need to gather emails, I suggest you pm them to me and I can either broadcast to everyone, or give people only the address they'll need.
You will need to provide me with your password once we start, so that the rest of us aren't screwed over if anyone drops out.
Here (http://alphacentauri.us/pbem.html) is an explanation on how to PBEM, for those of you who are like me and have no idea wtf is going on.
Post by: Un67 on February 04, 2013, 05:07:04 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 04, 2013, 05:12:32 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 04, 2013, 05:17:40 pm
Post by: Un67 on February 04, 2013, 05:21:54 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 04, 2013, 05:23:27 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 04, 2013, 05:38:45 pm
First... I'm not sure exactly what you mean?
Because let's face it, I'm Miriam, I'm going to be capturing lots of technologically superior units and probably doing quite a few upgrades. And I don't actually understand how we design units if we can't use the workshop, but maybe I'm getting terminology mixed up here? Does this mean we can't, for example, upgrade a captured unit to current tech-level armor and weapons and equipment without spending three turns doing it? It's really quite confusing and poorly worded, and doesn't 11 already cover the abuse case? (I don't actually understand 11 either, but whatever, we'll figure it out) It seems to be talking about upgrading ALL units at the same time, which I didn't even know was an option and wouldn't want to do though?
I also don't understand the bit about drops. What is the point of dropping at all if you can only drop one unit per turn? I was under impression multi-unit drops were the NORMAL way to handle drops... apparently I was wrong.
rule 10 seems a bit... odd. As in its not a rule. :P Rule 7... well, we might consider just disallowing pacts. Can you disable allied victory without disabling pacts?
Post by: Twiggie on February 04, 2013, 06:04:35 pm
Multiple drops is for ONE unit to do more than one drop in a turn. Apparently that's possible too.
Basically rule 8 is dealing with upgrading units in chunks being cheaper. For example if you had a 1-1-1, you and you want to upgrade it to a 12-6-3, you might first upgrade it to 12-1-3 and then upgrade that to a 12-6-3, instead of doing the upgrade in one chunk (I think its cheaper to do that). Doing that IS allowed, but doing all that in one turn is not (and there are ways to accomplish that).
Essentially, just play normally. If you find a way to cut costs that might be considered dodgy, ask in the thread.
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 04, 2013, 06:06:46 pm
Ah well, I'll probably just be doing one or the other most of the time anyway. I really need to review how the SMAC battle calcs work again too, I always forget the details and screw myself over.
Post by: Twiggie on February 05, 2013, 08:26:48 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 05, 2013, 09:07:43 am
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 05, 2013, 11:10:35 am
I didn't know Borehole Cluster, Unity Wreckage and Manifold Nexus were in SMAC, but I'm getting them in my games - is that from 4.0 or did SMAX add them retroactively?The manual of SMAX leads me to believe that they were indeed added retroactively.
Post by: PTTG?? on February 05, 2013, 12:32:51 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 05, 2013, 01:48:48 pm
I've always had the borehole cluster get annihilated in a couple turns by spore launchers.
:(
We still need to conclude the vote on difficulty - I've run a few test games and Large seems small enough for momentum players to do their thing. Is everyone OK with the second-most difficult one? (third citizen is a drone)?
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 05, 2013, 01:50:01 pm
I should be pretty honest right now, I'm not a great player mechanically. I really enjoy diplomacy though, so hopefully I can make up for that. I never did get tweaking things mechanically down to the art form that most other online players seem capable of.
Post by: postal83 on February 05, 2013, 04:06:32 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 05, 2013, 04:07:34 pm
Wanna fill that last spot and get started already!
Post by: Karlito on February 05, 2013, 05:05:14 pm
Post by: Il Palazzo on February 05, 2013, 05:28:28 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 05, 2013, 05:37:48 pm
up to the rest of you i guess. start now or wait a day or two?
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 05, 2013, 05:54:56 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 05, 2013, 06:06:40 pm
Post by: postal83 on February 05, 2013, 06:19:04 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 05, 2013, 06:35:06 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 05, 2013, 06:48:42 pm
Post by: Karlito on February 05, 2013, 06:50:08 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 05, 2013, 07:12:42 pm
Turns will be played in
Diplomacy can by done by PM on the forums, of course.
Post by: Twiggie on February 05, 2013, 07:38:35 pm
Post by: postal83 on February 05, 2013, 10:58:34 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 06, 2013, 06:26:22 am
inb4 restart
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 06, 2013, 07:31:30 am
Also, my email is listed in my forum profile.
Post by: Twiggie on February 06, 2013, 07:56:09 am
Also, my email is listed in my forum profile.
I knew that.
>.>
<.<
Post by: postal83 on February 06, 2013, 09:09:12 am
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 06, 2013, 09:10:51 am
Post by: Twiggie on February 06, 2013, 12:18:54 pm
thought it'd be fast than this :<
Post by: PTTG?? on February 06, 2013, 12:51:46 pm
Consider it chess by mail.
Post by: Twiggie on February 06, 2013, 12:54:01 pm
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 06, 2013, 12:57:58 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 06, 2013, 01:04:54 pm
Post by: Karlito on February 06, 2013, 01:57:56 pm
Post by: Un67 on February 06, 2013, 02:54:49 pm
Post by: Karlito on February 06, 2013, 03:12:18 pm
Gaians
Hive
University
Morganites
Spartans
Believers
Peacekeeprs
Apparently we can change that order if we edit the .ini file, though I'm not sure of the optimal time zone arrangement.
EDIT: I extrapolated GlyphGryph and PTTG??'s timezone from profile information. We could go Gaians, Peacekeepers, Hive, Believers, Spartans, Morganites, University, which would put us roughly in ascending timezone order.Definitely having all the Europeans on one or the other end of the turn order could make it possible to do 24-hour turns.
Post by: Twiggie on February 06, 2013, 03:43:48 pm
i definitely think it's worth doing. if we're going to play for 3 months and it saves us one day every five turns (35 player turns), which i think is a low estimate of what it will save, that's.... a whole lot more turns!
i'll just do a quick playtest to check if it will work if only i change the ini file, then I'll make the change
Post by: Un67 on February 06, 2013, 03:48:20 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 06, 2013, 04:03:13 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 06, 2013, 04:08:42 pm
you guys won't have to make any changes, I'll just start the game again and send it out. however the factions will have swapped colours :p peacekeepers will be dark blue, hive will be white etc etc. gaians and spartans keep their colours
EDIT: new game sent.
Post by: Karlito on February 06, 2013, 04:33:19 pm
gaians and spartans keep their colours
Haha, yes!
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 06, 2013, 04:35:55 pm
Post by: Karlito on February 06, 2013, 04:42:42 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 06, 2013, 04:46:26 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 06, 2013, 04:49:56 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 06, 2013, 05:21:35 pm
sent the new game to myself because i hit reply on the previous email i sent to save time :p
Post by: Svampapa on February 07, 2013, 07:26:05 am
"Crap! Another SMAC let's play. Now I have to fight the urge to... nope, couldn't hold it this time either. Time to fire up another SMAC game. There goes this day. And tomorrow."
Post by: Twiggie on February 07, 2013, 07:30:13 am
Post by: postal83 on February 07, 2013, 08:55:05 am
Post by: PTTG?? on February 07, 2013, 12:40:27 pm
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 07, 2013, 01:34:41 pm
Man I hope they remake it sometimeI would too, but common sense says me that most people won't think it to be as good as the original.
Post by: Un67 on February 07, 2013, 03:20:44 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 07, 2013, 07:12:35 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 07, 2013, 07:31:59 pm
multiplayer -> hotseat/PBEM -> load, right? or load and h/pbem might be the other way around.
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 07, 2013, 07:35:22 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 07, 2013, 07:44:31 pm
do you have SMAX installed?
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 07, 2013, 07:51:23 pm
Edit: Figured it out. It was installing/unzipping to the wrong folder. Let's hope it works now...
Edit: FINALLY. Windows 8 was refusing to give me permission to extract. Got it though.
Edit: Uh... is there a reason why we start with a city? I am REALLY confused right now. D:
Post by: Karlito on February 07, 2013, 08:23:52 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 07, 2013, 08:39:20 pm
Post by: Karlito on February 07, 2013, 09:09:13 pm
If there's a message about me tampering with the game, I apologize. I accidentally quit out the first time I loaded up the game, so I had to load it up twice :-[. It won't happen again.
In the now-dead EFS PBEM game that I was playing for a while we made a point of posting a notification every time we completed a turn, which resulted in a lot of clutter in the thread, but it did let us see at a glance where the save was. Plus people seem to check the forums more often then their own email, so it helped to move the game along. I've got Thunderbird to ding every time I get new mail, so it doesn't matter too much to me, but do you guys think we should adopt that rule?
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 07, 2013, 09:25:49 pm
Kiera looked down at the fledgling colony spread out across the hillside in front of her. Dutiful people, working hard to build a righteous tomorrow, struggling in an alien environment to do the right thing. Unity. The ship that brought us here, but also the force that will hold our people together and lead us to prosperity. This will be Unity Capital. The future is bright.
Post by: PTTG?? on February 08, 2013, 12:46:39 am
Correct that and the patch should be installed. I ran into that myself, hard to catch.
Post by: Twiggie on February 08, 2013, 04:36:20 am
I have 1.5 hours of lab time left, then I have to do a piece of coursework and go shopping then I'll get straight on that game :p
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 08, 2013, 09:05:55 am
Post by: Twiggie on February 08, 2013, 10:20:19 am
coursework ended up taking 3 hours for 5% of the mark, /sigh
playing now
Post by: postal83 on February 08, 2013, 10:23:46 am
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsGfojY8FgAldG1EVU9mVFRGWlNaUUVnVENkS0FWemc&usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsGfojY8FgAldG1EVU9mVFRGWlNaUUVnVENkS0FWemc&usp=sharing)
I didn't make anything fancy, just a concept, feel free to edit it how you see fit. But it's a nice way to see where the turn stands and make the saves available, will also prevent clutter on the thread of turns being complete?
Also, its public right now, so if this is something you guys would be interested in, we should probably lock it down so only those playing would have access....
Post by: Twiggie on February 08, 2013, 10:31:51 am
moreover, no calling councils until you have met everyone. (ofc building the empath guild counts for contact).
lastly, im not sure how contact will work via diplomacy (selling channels to other players). you are allowed to make a cash gift to a player in return for a comlink to another player, of at least one credit. the turn AFTER you have finalised the trade, you may contact the player whose link you bought.
please keep all saves in case somebody cheats and we need to prove stuff.
ninja: we'll need to consider that, postal. basically boils down to how much we trust each other to not poke around in saves that aren't ours.
Post by: postal83 on February 08, 2013, 10:38:16 am
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 08, 2013, 11:27:37 am
I'll do it as soon as I can.
Post by: Twiggie on February 08, 2013, 11:28:01 am
Post by: PTTG?? on February 08, 2013, 12:50:08 pm
"My thoughts on the matter are final. You will update our protocols immediately."
"But sir-!"
"Silence! I will brook no insubordination in this matter."
"Yes sir."
The functionary went to the com center. He quickly set about to updating the contact systems with the new communication protocols to his master's wishes. He disliked this change, but he had no choice.
It was a small enough change, he supposed- but what did "Peacemaker" actually mean? And the new title?
Pah! We don't even know if any other colonists survived the landing. Who cares if they will have to call him "awesome"?
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 08, 2013, 02:05:09 pm
Post by: Un67 on February 09, 2013, 09:17:12 am
Post by: Twiggie on February 09, 2013, 09:20:55 am
Lal- or PTTG?? as we was insisting on being called now- looked to his underling.
"My thoughts on the matter are final. You will update our protocols immediately."
"But sir-!"
"Silence! I will brook no insubordination in this matter."
"Yes sir."
The functionary went to the com center. He quickly set about to updating the contact systems with the new communication protocols to his master's wishes. He disliked this change, but he had no choice.
It was a small enough change, he supposed- but what did "Peacemaker" actually mean? And the new title?
Pah! We don't even know if any other colonists survived the landing. Who cares if they will have to call him "awesome"?
isn't police state prohibited for peacekeepers? :p
Post by: Twiggie on February 09, 2013, 01:04:19 pm
also i've played a few test game and it is SHOCKING how close together people can be, even on large maps - one time i spawned 6 tiles away from santiago. quit that game pretty damn fast :p
Post by: Karlito on February 09, 2013, 02:16:38 pm
Post by: Un67 on February 09, 2013, 03:31:07 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 09, 2013, 03:49:04 pm
Post by: Karlito on February 09, 2013, 04:45:35 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 09, 2013, 06:07:31 pm
how's it going anyway?
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 09, 2013, 08:54:32 pm
Post by: Un67 on February 09, 2013, 10:09:43 pm
Post by: Karlito on February 10, 2013, 03:05:16 am
Post by: Twiggie on February 10, 2013, 07:52:25 am
my scout failed to enter a rocky square :@
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 10, 2013, 10:41:38 am
"Yes, Sister," responded the messenger. "Everything north of the capital until the ocean. And what's even better than the knowledge itself is that we found something special..." The conversation continues, their voice fading to a whisper as Brother Luke strolled away from the door. There are those who must know of this...
Post by: Twiggie on February 10, 2013, 11:00:03 am
Post by: PTTG?? on February 10, 2013, 11:40:28 am
Lets hope he didn't just find the monsoon jungle.
Yeah, one time I played Miriam with a monsoon jungle and had such a pop boom I could have had a tech victory. I don't recall how that game actually ended...
Post by: Twiggie on February 10, 2013, 12:00:21 pm
We're playing at Thinker, not Librarian (it's the second hardest, as stated before)
Also Do or Die is NOT enabled, iirc. Which means if you get wiped early you'll be able to restart.
Post by: PTTG?? on February 10, 2013, 11:22:04 pm
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 11, 2013, 03:07:29 am
What are we waiting for?My bad. Apparenlty gmail refused to send the email the first time. Resend it.
Post by: Twiggie on February 11, 2013, 05:39:38 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on February 11, 2013, 06:31:04 pm
Post by: postal83 on February 11, 2013, 09:17:49 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on February 12, 2013, 01:05:23 am
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 12, 2013, 02:52:44 am
Yeah.. I'm just waiting on access to the google drive file then I will play my turn asap.Stupid docs system. Next time I'm just sending it as an attachment.
My bad again. (Could've sworn I fixed it yesterday, but apparently it didn't happen.)
Post by: Twiggie on February 12, 2013, 06:39:22 am
Post by: postal83 on February 12, 2013, 08:28:59 am
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 12, 2013, 08:32:01 am
what was wrong with using email in the first place :/I encountered problems with automatic spam and security filters before.
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 12, 2013, 08:53:28 am
Post by: PTTG?? on February 12, 2013, 11:26:25 am
Post by: Karlito on February 12, 2013, 11:53:40 am
Post by: PTTG?? on February 12, 2013, 12:19:04 pm
EDIT: Also, I might have researched and built a stockpile of planet busters. Possibly.
Post by: Un67 on February 12, 2013, 04:21:18 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on February 12, 2013, 04:30:40 pm
Post by: Un67 on February 12, 2013, 04:58:58 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on February 12, 2013, 05:04:06 pm
Post by: Un67 on February 12, 2013, 05:37:53 pm
EDIT: Received and sent off to GlyphGryph, hopefully without a hitch.
Post by: PTTG?? on February 12, 2013, 05:56:13 pm
Post by: Karlito on February 12, 2013, 10:27:54 pm
Karlita coughed ever so politely, and tapped the numerous stars that now decorated her uniform.
"I mean, errrr, Grand Marshal??" the Major stammered, "Ma'am I don't think you can just-"
"Of course I can... General. After all, we'll need more than the fourty surviving Unity Security forces in the army if any of those other factions made planetfall. Besides, it would be silly for the eventual leader of all humanity to be a mere Colonel."
Also: retroactively a woman.
Post by: Twiggie on February 13, 2013, 04:47:20 am
"Approaching the pod now, Chief."
"Very well, Lieutenant, you have your orders, let us see what we can scavenge from this thing" Morgan replied as he surveyed his executive board, crowded into the command post deep within Morgan Industries.
"Chief, if I could have just a quick moment?" - Amanda Gater, his COO - "When are we going to change this ridiculous colour scheme? The rank and file would appreciate it if we didn't all have to go around looking like damned hippies"
"Nonsense!" somebody shouted, pushing their way towards the executive officer. "Waldrup, Design, reporting, chief! I'll have you know that this newly-developed orange metalling is 7.8% cheaper than any viable alternative!"
Another burst of the static from the radio, and everyone's voices tailed off into silence.
"Chief, we have the pod half open, and some weird shit is going down! You need to see this!"
As the grainy video feed came up on the main monitors, everyone present in the post saw the boiling, writhing mass of worms erupting from within the pod.
"Get the hell out of there, William!" - Gater again - "Fall back!"
Also it seems I've found my first landmark. It is not a good one. Sigh.
Post by: Karlito on February 13, 2013, 06:22:39 am
Post by: Twiggie on February 13, 2013, 06:25:20 am
how is sunny mesa not good? and there are no spore launchers, so no destroying the boreholes i think
Post by: Karlito on February 13, 2013, 07:05:44 am
how is sunny mesa not good?
Oh it's fine, I just find it conceptually kind of boring compared to other landmarks. Even the other energy bonus ones are like, "the ground is made of radiation" rather than, "the ground is higher here so it gets more sunlight."
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 13, 2013, 10:55:23 am
"We don't know, Brother. We've never seen anything like it before. Kiera's science teams are all over it, but..."
He waved his hand, dismissing it. "Idiots, the lot of them. It could be years before they figure out what it's for. I want you to get a man in that team, reporting back to me. Send me what he learns, and pass along my requests. We don't know what this is yet, but I can tell you this: It's not of human origin. It is a gift from our Lord, and we will unlock it's secrets when he wishes us to and not a moment sooner. And it will be our group that unlocks that secret first, not Kiera's sycophants, and I believe in my heart and soul that it will contain the seeds our triumph."
The other man nodded. "His will be done, Brother."
Post by: Twiggie on February 13, 2013, 10:57:55 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 13, 2013, 11:04:48 am
-Sister Kiera Griffin
Post by: Karlito on February 13, 2013, 11:23:27 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 13, 2013, 11:31:44 am
You certainly don't stand firmly against the Lord as Morgan does. Your cities are not dens of vice and sin. You value discipline, and tradition, and respect, and countless other virtues. I think it is clear why the Lord would favour you as well.
-Sister Kiera Griffin
Post by: Twiggie on February 13, 2013, 12:29:04 pm
The right-thinking people of Morgan Industries will forge their own destiny through adversity, no matter the obstacles. Wealth unimaginable will be ours.
CEO T Morgan
Post by: Twiggie on February 14, 2013, 06:47:40 am
seems like I'm always the biggest gap between turns, maybe I should try and play before uni
herp. should look at timestamps on emails, really. -.-
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 14, 2013, 10:34:23 am
Will your god provide you with technological advance? Will he feed your citizens when they call to you in their starvation? Will he arm your soldiers in times of war? Will he provide you with prosperity in times of peace?
Evidence so far says "Yes", to all of the above.
-Sister Kiera Griffin of the Believers
Post by: Un67 on February 14, 2013, 11:57:52 am
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Evidence so far says "Yes", to all of the above.
And yet can man not do all these things, and more? The society of man is far more potent than your distant god, so long as they are directed to a greater purpose. Do not delude yourself, good Sister, it is the blood, toil, and sweat of man that will guide us to rapture. With fruitful industry and rational science in hand we shall gain the power of which only your gods can dream of. So long as you do not impede society's tireless march towards progress, however, we shall not bother your senseless prayers and leave you to your own as you to our.
Chairman Yun Liushiqi, the Human Hive
Post by: Twiggie on February 14, 2013, 12:49:49 pm
CEO T Morgan
(Where are we at re turns, btw?)
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 14, 2013, 01:34:39 pm
I suspect, Chairmun Yun, that you are one of those men. I have read your manifestos, and I see the future you envision, and there is no place for humanity in it. If you wish to tirelessly pursue your own oblivion, then do so - when God's righteous fury cleanses you from Planet, however, do not expect us to aid to you.
-Sister Kiera Griffin of the Believers
Post by: Un67 on February 14, 2013, 02:05:39 pm
Good Sister Kiera, I do not pretend that progress is easy or comfortable, but progress is all too necessary. Humanity cannot and will not thrive stagnating under a government that chooses to deny advancement, as history has demonstrated time and time again, for instance the late Qing Dynasty. I know what is best for my people and will do what I can to spur the coming of progress. I do not pretend that I am some kind of great savior, only a guide to a better place. Together, we must all make sacrifices, and I know that I can make those sacrifices worth their while. You may feel free to judge my methods and call them evil, but when I have built a utopia in which all citizens thrive and no citizens suffer, have I not built the heaven that your citizens pray for fruitlessly?
I admire your commendable sense of ethics, Sister, but they are misplaced. Do not look at microcosms and instead look at the large picture - is utopia not worth the means to acquire it? If you will spare us no aid when your distant god wipes us out, so be it, but know that when our utopia becomes complete, your citizens will be quite welcome to join. Has your messiah not told you to turn the other cheek? We hold no grudges against the misguided, so why do you?
Cordially,
Chairman Yun Liushiqi
Post by: Karlito on February 14, 2013, 02:11:42 pm
(I played the and passed it on to GlyphGryph. I'm not sure if he played it yet, though.)(Hasn't been passed onto me yet, though I've usually been getting them in the evening)
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 14, 2013, 02:14:27 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 14, 2013, 03:13:28 pm
Edit: Done.
Post by: Twiggie on February 15, 2013, 05:20:18 am
Also lets have some more RP from you guys! its pretty fun :D
edit:done
Post by: Un67 on February 15, 2013, 07:09:04 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 15, 2013, 12:18:52 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 15, 2013, 12:19:58 pm
edit: apparently morgan was the richest man on earth and financed the majority of the UNS Unity. did not know.
Post by: PTTG?? on February 16, 2013, 12:12:32 pm
Lal starts with a bonus colony pod. This does not ensure that he will start with anywhere worth settling at all nearby.
Hmm... maybe I should use my planet busters to clear an area for this colony...
Post by: Karlito on February 16, 2013, 12:22:09 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 16, 2013, 12:22:09 pm
edit: apparently morgan was the richest man on earth and financed the majority of the UNS Unity. did not know.Don't trust the extended universe, especially the books. They are ... kind of really bad.
Post by: Twiggie on February 16, 2013, 12:41:30 pm
That's why I used my second colony pod to expand my first settlement while I scouted around for good sites and built up anti-worm forces.
you had more than one square at your main base worth more than 3-2-1? :O
Post by: Un67 on February 16, 2013, 01:29:36 pm
EDIT: OK, I'm not sure what's going on, but something's stopping me from playing the turn. It tells me that I've already played it (I haven't) and is telling me that I've tampered with the game or something. If I try to log in, it won't let me do so and after I try three times it just forces me to save it without allowing me to do anything. I've tried redownloading the save but it hasn't helped. Does anyone know what to do?
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 16, 2013, 02:45:39 pm
i think im near someone, cant tell who yet thoughAs far as I've read not the majority, but a pretty significant part. (One of the cryobay's at least.)
edit: apparently morgan was the richest man on earth and financed the majority of the UNS Unity. did not know.
Post by: Twiggie on February 16, 2013, 02:55:56 pm
You can do that? Another day, another thing learned :-\
EDIT: OK, I'm not sure what's going on, but something's stopping me from playing the turn. It tells me that I've already played it (I haven't) and is telling me that I've tampered with the game or something. If I try to log in, it won't let me do so and after I try three times it just forces me to save it without allowing me to do anything. I've tried redownloading the save but it hasn't helped. Does anyone know what to do?
redownload it and change the name of the file?
Post by: Karlito on February 16, 2013, 03:02:29 pm
Post by: Un67 on February 16, 2013, 03:26:07 pm
Is it possible that PTTG might play his turn again and send it to me? I don't want to be a pain, but I'm afraid that it doesn't seem to be working.
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 16, 2013, 04:30:05 pm
Post by: Un67 on February 16, 2013, 05:17:44 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 16, 2013, 05:27:32 pm
Post by: Un67 on February 16, 2013, 05:29:06 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 16, 2013, 07:13:02 pm
Post by: Un67 on February 16, 2013, 07:17:26 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 16, 2013, 07:29:33 pm
if you've reinstalled did you redo the patch?
Post by: Un67 on February 16, 2013, 07:35:49 pm
Also, I'm certain that the version I have is pre-patched. I don't think that's the problem.
Post by: PTTG?? on February 17, 2013, 11:52:06 am
Post by: Un67 on February 17, 2013, 12:12:06 pm
Post by: Karlito on February 17, 2013, 12:13:56 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 17, 2013, 12:34:13 pm
Post by: Un67 on February 17, 2013, 12:37:18 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 17, 2013, 01:59:06 pm
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 17, 2013, 03:21:59 pm
ONWARDS!Haven't recieved anything yet.
Post by: Karlito on February 17, 2013, 03:24:15 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 17, 2013, 03:25:56 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on February 18, 2013, 01:51:44 pm
Post by: Karlito on February 18, 2013, 02:09:26 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 18, 2013, 03:47:05 pm
i have a feeling i'd be one of the main culprits :p
Post by: Un67 on February 18, 2013, 06:50:42 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 18, 2013, 10:56:05 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 19, 2013, 09:41:55 am
^ You'd have to beat my bumbling ineptness first :P
you were saying? :p
i assume you've played your turn
Post by: Un67 on February 19, 2013, 04:24:59 pm
Resent it.
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 19, 2013, 04:27:38 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 19, 2013, 04:39:09 pm
EVERYTHING INTO THE INBOX, NAO!
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 19, 2013, 04:57:14 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 19, 2013, 08:09:10 pm
Fortune has smiled upon us today. The Lord, I thinks, see's fit to grant us an army, as if he was requesting we make use of it. Is there as yet some unforeseen danger on this planet? As near as I can tell, we remain absolutely alone here, and though the planet itself is inhospitable, we seem to be settling in fairly well. Regardless, the recovered vehicles have allowed us to scout out several amazing sites for our colony pods, and I feel that in a few short years we will be fully prepared to settle them. The amount of alien fungus to the south and west worries me a bit - we've seen no sign of it being dangerous, but it seems almost... foreboding. It is difficult to move through, at the least, so I rest easy knowing we have such fine colony sites awaiting us that rest far from the reach of those purple tendrils.
Brother Luke has been acting strange lately, ever since the exploration team discovered the artifact (or perhaps that is simple the first I've noticed of it) and I've assigned extra surveillance to him. He is not as good at lurking as he believes, and he would do better to fill his networks with those who have a greater loyalty to himself than to me. I trust that the Lord still guides his heart, but this place is full of temptations for the unwary - it may be that he has lost the true path, and will need to be gently guided back to the light.
-Sister Kiera Griffin, The Diary of Planet, 2105
Post by: Karlito on February 19, 2013, 08:47:51 pm
-Grand Marshal Karlita Santiago, 2105
Spoiler: Also, eat your heart out, University (click to show/hide)
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 19, 2013, 08:51:07 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on February 20, 2013, 01:08:54 am
Post by: Twiggie on February 20, 2013, 07:08:00 am
First tech next turn, if only I had a monument on my capital :<
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 20, 2013, 04:58:52 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 20, 2013, 05:07:04 pm
Post by: Karlito on February 20, 2013, 05:09:51 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on February 21, 2013, 03:53:02 pm
No pressure or anything, but at this rate, a 300 turn game will take 2.2 years.
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 21, 2013, 04:38:02 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 21, 2013, 04:41:34 pm
would be nice to keep that going and get 1turn/day over the weekend
EDIT: was hoping for a turn when i woke up, no such luck :<
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 22, 2013, 08:14:58 am
You see - I've made contact.
More later.
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 22, 2013, 08:32:15 am
I make this speech here today not to talk of possible challenges, though, but to bring amazing news! A Rover team today discovered that the rumours are true! There ARE other survivors of our ship, out and wandering the surface of Planet! We do not yet know if this Patrol is a small group of survivors having survived until now by scavenging Planets wilderness, or if they are organized by a larger group of survivors as ours are. If it is the first, we will extend the offer to join us, as we did the teams we found in stasis in the capsules we've uncovered. If it is the second, we will open up dialogue immediately, and discover the extent to which our brethren have succeeded here. I know many of you will be eager to try and contact family you've been separated from, and I promise I will do what I can to quell your worries. Thank you, and we will pass along the news as we learn more." With that, the broadcast flickered our, and Kiera turned, as another camera flickered.
"Have you made contact with them, yet, Commander?" She asked.
A face, tired and chapped from roving the wilds for years, appeared on the screen. "Yes, ma'am. We've taken position in a flanking position and sent someone in. They claim to be from a group calling themselves the University. I'll patch you through now, Sister, if you wish."
She nodded. "Do it."
((10ebbor10, we need to talk. :P))
Post by: Twiggie on February 22, 2013, 08:36:06 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 22, 2013, 10:05:56 am
But seriously, I was under the impression the Spartan's were most opposed to the University.
The Believers seem most opposed to the Hive. While hostility with the other factions, esp. the University and Morganites, is possible, it really depends on point of view - a more cynical and self-centered Miriam could easily befriend the Morganites, using religion as a tool for advancement, and one who sees the University's work as the study of the glory of creation could easily befriend them for that and practical reasons (they shore up each others weaknesses rather well in either case).
The Hive, though? There is simply no potential for cooperation there.
Post by: Twiggie on February 22, 2013, 10:15:16 am
((EDIT: yeah! played my turn within 5 minutes of receiving it! :p))
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 22, 2013, 04:25:25 pm
Oh, and yeah, not going to be diametrically opposed. On another note, for some reasons there are turns in which I can do essentially nothing for some reason. No movements, no research breakthrough. It just says I've finished my turn as soon as I load it.))
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 22, 2013, 04:27:43 pm
But seriously, we need to talk. Could you hop onto the lower boards IRC in about three or four hours?
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 22, 2013, 04:45:19 pm
Do you have "auto-turn-end" turned on? If so... you might want to disable that, and enable "pause at end of turn".That's 2:00 (Night) for me. So, um, I'm afraid not.
But seriously, we need to talk. Could you hop onto the lower boards IRC in about three or four hours?
((On a side note, theology certainly is science, good science.))
[Edit: I can't remember that bloody 12 hour system]
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 22, 2013, 05:11:30 pm
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 23, 2013, 09:14:45 am
Do you have "auto-turn-end" turned on? If so... you might want to disable that, and enable "pause at end of turn".It's not that. I turned that off. It's just that when I load the turn, it's in the exact same state as I left it, with nothing (unit movements,construction, research) progressing. I've managed to fix it with reinstalling and reloading the save(hence the tampering warning that'll surely pop up).
That's the reason why the Spartans got the first breakthrough btw. Should have had one in 2104/2105, I believe. Sadly, for the last 3 turns my civ was frozen in statis(Hence my suspicion. Having a research that is supposed to be finished next year last 3 years is a bit strange).
((And just to illustrate the fact that there was indeed a bug, I reloaded some old saves, and those started with a breakthrough where there hadn't been one when I officially played them. No need to restart though))
PN: Send the save
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 23, 2013, 09:49:01 pm
Post by: Karlito on February 24, 2013, 10:55:35 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 26, 2013, 07:38:31 pm
Post by: Un67 on February 26, 2013, 07:41:46 pm
I can send it again, but maybe you want to set up a filter for me that redirects everything I send to your inbox? Again, it looks like we have a spam-filter problem.
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 26, 2013, 07:46:08 pm
Post by: Un67 on February 26, 2013, 08:47:51 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 26, 2013, 08:49:04 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 26, 2013, 08:54:11 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 26, 2013, 09:16:36 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 26, 2013, 10:04:48 pm
Post by: Karlito on February 26, 2013, 10:15:47 pm
EDIT: Sent. Is it normal to be stuck at breakthrough:4 turns for more than 1 turn?
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 27, 2013, 07:03:16 am
Sorry, I haven't yet. Been travelling around, and internet access has been a little spotty. I'm doing it now.
EDIT: Sent. Is it normal to be stuck at breakthrough:4 turns for more than 1 turn?
As far as I know, that's a bug. I had it 3 turns in a row with breakthrough next turn. Reloading broke the statis.
However, if you did something energy intensive, it could be that. (Or a rounding error)
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 28, 2013, 10:39:56 am
Post by: Twiggie on March 02, 2013, 06:02:47 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 02, 2013, 11:42:55 am
Post by: PTTG?? on March 02, 2013, 12:20:44 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 02, 2013, 12:43:46 pm
Post by: Karlito on March 02, 2013, 01:04:59 pm
Post by: Twiggie on March 02, 2013, 01:29:38 pm
put a turn counter in the first page, just colour the appropriate square when you've done your turn. its not mandatory but it should cut down on the amount of 'wheres the save fml' chatter that takes several hours to fill - now you just need to open one page.
Post by: 10ebbor10 on March 04, 2013, 12:03:32 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 05, 2013, 09:36:53 pm
"What you're describing... it's horrific." Kiera seemed calm, but her voice betrayed her shock. She quickly collected herself, however. "Send the soldiers my personal commendations for overcoming such a horrifying deal and emerging victorious, with minimal losses. It was incredibly quick thinking, with the make-shift flamethrowers."
Sister Doschild bowed. "It shall be as you say, Sister. The Lord's Will Be Done." The Sister turned, and made to leave the Rectory. "And tell our friends at the University what happened. They may know more about this new threat."
Post by: Twiggie on March 06, 2013, 02:50:57 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on March 07, 2013, 02:34:04 pm
Post by: Twiggie on March 07, 2013, 02:38:30 pm
Post by: 10ebbor10 on March 07, 2013, 02:56:17 pm
waiting on ebbor, apparentlyNo we're not. Also, the turn counter isn't formatted correctly. If it were, we'd finished 2111 already. (I just started that year)
Post by: Twiggie on March 07, 2013, 03:05:58 pm
i dont see the problem with the counter :/
Post by: 10ebbor10 on March 07, 2013, 03:26:18 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 08, 2013, 01:02:53 pm
Post by: Twiggie on March 09, 2013, 09:36:29 am
good progress!
Also, this turn I got that little overwhelming odds popup. except the odds were 27-7 in my favour...
Are you sure you want to attack? HELL YES I DO! LETS BURN THOSE DAMN THINGS!
Post by: Karlito on March 09, 2013, 11:54:41 am
:< like 5 of you play your turn in 12 hours and then you have to wait 10 hours for me to wake up :<
Ideally, that's how it should work, if we did a turn every day.
Post by: Twiggie on March 11, 2013, 05:23:15 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 11, 2013, 08:38:44 pm
Post by: postal83 on March 11, 2013, 09:10:02 pm
Post by: Twiggie on March 11, 2013, 09:21:21 pm
Post by: postal83 on March 11, 2013, 10:20:51 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on March 11, 2013, 10:41:37 pm
Post by: Twiggie on March 11, 2013, 11:32:39 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 12, 2013, 12:04:09 am
So does un67 have it?
Post by: PTTG?? on March 12, 2013, 12:11:04 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 12, 2013, 12:21:03 am
Post by: postal83 on March 12, 2013, 12:23:46 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 12, 2013, 08:31:53 am
Post by: postal83 on March 12, 2013, 12:41:45 pm
Post by: Un67 on March 12, 2013, 03:29:43 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 12, 2013, 03:37:35 pm
PTTG, double check you sent it.
Post by: PTTG?? on March 12, 2013, 03:57:15 pm
Post by: Un67 on March 12, 2013, 08:41:15 pm
Post by: Twiggie on March 13, 2013, 07:57:17 pm
Sir! We have won a victory against... something! We never even saw what it was but we still managed to beat it! Rejoice in the superiority of Morganite weapons!
Does anyone know if raising land will divert rivers?
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 13, 2013, 10:05:17 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on March 13, 2013, 10:13:39 pm
I assume Karlito's gonna send me the turn at 3am as usual. I'll be waiting (stupid uni project grrr)
Sir! We have won a victory against... something! We never even saw what it was but we still managed to beat it! Rejoice in the superiority of Morganite weapons!
Does anyone know if raising land will divert rivers?
Yes, it does.
Post by: Twiggie on March 15, 2013, 10:02:31 am
Post by: PTTG?? on March 16, 2013, 02:35:31 am
Post by: Twiggie on March 17, 2013, 08:45:13 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 19, 2013, 12:17:12 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on March 19, 2013, 02:51:48 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on March 21, 2013, 01:43:47 pm
Post by: Karlito on March 21, 2013, 01:45:45 pm
Post by: Twiggie on March 21, 2013, 01:47:50 pm
Post by: 10ebbor10 on March 21, 2013, 01:56:27 pm
Post by: Karlito on March 22, 2013, 12:03:01 am
Post by: Twiggie on March 22, 2013, 05:58:30 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 22, 2013, 03:45:23 pm
Post by: Twiggie on March 22, 2013, 04:04:44 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on March 22, 2013, 04:05:47 pm
Post by: Karlito on March 22, 2013, 04:14:43 pm
Post by: postal83 on March 22, 2013, 05:30:31 pm
Post by: Karlito on March 22, 2013, 09:19:53 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on March 23, 2013, 01:38:14 am
Post by: Karlito on March 23, 2013, 01:43:50 am
My turn is done, I keep getting attacked by worms :(
Post by: Un67 on March 23, 2013, 08:43:31 am
(No, you can't do it to me, that would be silly.)
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 23, 2013, 09:02:14 am
oh, did you use your first pod to +1 your capital?
I did not. In... 6, turns, I think? I will be up to 4 cities. It will be nice. It will take weeks, but it will be nice. ;)
Post by: Twiggie on March 23, 2013, 09:23:03 am
Post by: 10ebbor10 on March 27, 2013, 10:08:22 am
I won't have net acces for the entirety of Easter. So if anyone wants to take over the prevent the game from standing still for 2 weeks, please do.
Post by: Karlito on March 27, 2013, 11:11:29 am
Post by: 10ebbor10 on March 27, 2013, 11:25:28 am
Going to Greece. Should be fun.
Post by: PTTG?? on March 27, 2013, 11:27:08 am
Let's officially suspend the game until you get back, unless you think there's any way you could get periodic internet access.
Post by: Twiggie on March 27, 2013, 12:49:21 pm
i asked in the smac thread for a sub for ya
Post by: PTTG?? on April 01, 2013, 11:00:32 pm
EDIT: He's gone to greece for two weeks.
OK yeah this game's gonna die.
Post by: GlyphGryph on April 02, 2013, 04:39:31 pm
Regardless, I hope this game doesn't die! I certainly haven't given up on it anyway, I just figured it was on hiatus until and only until he returned.
Post by: Karlito on April 02, 2013, 04:45:23 pm
Post by: Twiggie on April 02, 2013, 05:20:08 pm
Post by: Twiggie on April 02, 2013, 05:43:33 pm
Post by: Karlito on April 02, 2013, 06:07:19 pm
Post by: Twiggie on April 02, 2013, 08:57:57 pm
:)
Post by: postal83 on April 03, 2013, 08:58:04 am
Post by: 10ebbor10 on April 03, 2013, 02:52:34 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on April 05, 2013, 09:34:06 am
Post by: PTTG?? on April 05, 2013, 05:31:17 pm
Post by: Karlito on April 06, 2013, 12:54:58 am
Post by: Twiggie on April 11, 2013, 11:24:03 am
OTOH, new city soon!
also, ebbor, don't forget to remind me when you get back so I stop playing your turns :P
Post by: PTTG?? on April 11, 2013, 12:28:50 pm
Post by: Karlito on April 11, 2013, 12:40:29 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on April 11, 2013, 01:36:05 pm
(And would have been last night if he didn't fall asleep for 12 hours)
Now I just need to finish these network nodes, since I've got a pile of artifacts to hook up to them...
Post by: PTTG?? on April 11, 2013, 07:14:36 pm
Post by: Twiggie on April 11, 2013, 07:15:22 pm
Post by: Karlito on April 11, 2013, 07:44:40 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on April 12, 2013, 12:02:30 am
Post by: 10ebbor10 on April 12, 2013, 07:11:45 am
Post by: Un67 on April 12, 2013, 02:22:07 pm
Post by: Karlito on April 13, 2013, 12:29:55 am
Post by: Un67 on April 13, 2013, 08:50:51 am
I'll figure something out, then.
Post by: GlyphGryph on April 16, 2013, 11:19:49 am
/me convulses wildly.
I've got some good RP planned for next turn, damn it!
Also, ebbor, respond to my diplomacies.
Post by: PTTG?? on April 17, 2013, 10:32:53 am
Post by: Twiggie on April 18, 2013, 07:32:42 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on April 18, 2013, 07:37:45 pm
Quellin nodded. "The settlers are industrious, Sister. They will not disappoint. And already we push towards the Elysian Plains, with our eyes ever on the frontier. You have no need to worry over the Dawnseekers growing complacent." He laughed, a bit. "And with that, I must be off. We've gotten promising reports on the western front I must see to. May you always chase the Dawn, Sister, and may it's light always bless your path."
----
Meanwhile, some distance away. "What do you mean, they've taken it all?" screamed Brother Luke at his cowering underling. "We were close! We could have unlocked it's secrets!" The disciple cowered.
"It's the new Former project, sir. The Lady has committed all our resources to it, she's recycling half the city in pursuit of it, and has cut off funding to almost every other project. There's just nowhere for the credits to come from, sir - she's watching it all personally, to make sure production completes on time."
Luke frowned. He didn't like this at all. Something was coming - he could feel it in his bones - and Sister Kiera's dedication to turning this planet into some kind of New Eden was going to be no protection against it. No, something had to change.
"Consider this project on hold, then. I will personally fund a smaller project, but one that might be vitally important to our security. After your failure here, do not expect to be involved."
Post by: Karlito on April 18, 2013, 10:02:28 pm
Post by: Twiggie on April 19, 2013, 05:48:42 am
"It's the new Former project, sir. The Lady has committed all our resources to it, she's recycling half the city in pursuit of it, and has cut off funding to almost every other project. There's just nowhere for the credits to come from, sir - she's watching it all personally, to make sure production completes on time."
formersnextturninternethighfive?
i thought at first you were implying an artifact spend, but i doubt you've got a node up already... selling your Rec Commons, Kiera? Your people will not be happy...
Post by: GlyphGryph on April 19, 2013, 09:08:47 am
University, why would you give the Believers tech? Whyyy?
Imagine you found yourself next to me, I had three cities, 4 rovers and 4 scouts right on your boarder. Would you prefer I be working on my new laser units, or building formers? :P Plus, they are my GOOD FRIENDS.
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formersnextturninternethighfive?I was only a few turns away from my network node and artifact hookup, but decided the formers were more valuable so switched over to produce on of them immediately instead.
i thought at first you were implying an artifact spend, but i doubt you've got a node up already... selling your Rec Commons, Kiera? Your people will not be happy...
2 more turns until city #4! ^_^
Post by: PTTG?? on April 21, 2013, 12:11:12 pm
Post by: Twiggie on April 21, 2013, 01:15:43 pm
As the last of the mineral-bearing behemoths rolled in, and the outer doors began their descent, his COO reported.
'Morgan, construction across the colonies is going well. Every one of our cities is producing the new machines. Work should be done in a matter of years.'
'Years?' Morgan questioned 'We don't have years. Progress must not be stopped, we must increase all our outputs. Utilise every means necessary to get them out!'
And, the next year, the machines now styled 'Formers' rolled out from every base, to tame the planet for the benefit of all mankind. Editor's note: but mainly the Morganites. Because we're the best.
Morgan Archives, On Industry, 2119, Part 4, Chapter 3, excerpt.
Post by: GlyphGryph on April 21, 2013, 02:22:34 pm
Post by: Twiggie on April 21, 2013, 02:37:45 pm
edit: i feel like im giving away trade secrets here. :< ah well
Post by: 10ebbor10 on April 21, 2013, 02:42:27 pm
Where is ebbor?My turn?
Oh, dammit. Evil spamfolder strikes again. Will try to get it done soon.
Post by: Twiggie on April 22, 2013, 03:21:45 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on April 22, 2013, 03:34:35 pm
Post by: 10ebbor10 on April 22, 2013, 04:10:31 pm
ebborrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr?What?
At the point of you writing that message the turn should've been on it's way through the interwebs.
Post by: GlyphGryph on April 22, 2013, 07:20:18 pm
Post by: Twiggie on April 25, 2013, 05:10:56 am
Post by: PTTG?? on April 26, 2013, 02:39:40 pm
Every one of them was a monolith.
Hey, at least they weren't worm-infested. But given that we haven't actually found any actual pods, I'm sure my people must think that the ENTIRE spaceship vaporized in orbit.
Post by: GlyphGryph on April 26, 2013, 03:17:33 pm
Post by: Twiggie on April 28, 2013, 09:02:39 am
also, if my score drops suddenly, don't be surprised :(
Post by: GlyphGryph on April 28, 2013, 08:38:05 pm
Post by: Karlito on April 28, 2013, 09:15:10 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on April 28, 2013, 10:48:34 pm
Post by: 10ebbor10 on April 29, 2013, 12:06:38 am
Post by: Twiggie on May 01, 2013, 02:33:54 am
Post by: 10ebbor10 on May 01, 2013, 03:41:48 am
how're we doing for turns? looks like nobody's updated since my last turnStrange.
I'll send the save again. Hope it processes this time. (Really, fourth time I'm trying this.) Something strange is going on.
Post by: Twiggie on May 03, 2013, 04:20:04 pm
Post by: Un67 on May 04, 2013, 04:50:21 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on May 04, 2013, 06:34:12 pm
Post by: mastahcheese on May 05, 2013, 09:24:59 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on May 06, 2013, 02:20:26 pm
Posting to watch, you guys are hilarious.
I kind of wish we had a way of displaying a live recording for non-players.
Back to the RP:
"Let me get this straight: We designed a specialized radiofrequency broadcasting system, capable of being detected kilometers away, and built it, with multiple redundancies, into the hundreds of cargo pods that were attached to the Unity. Am I right, so far?"
"Yes, Mister PTTG."
"And this system includes an advanced encryption system that not only locks the pod, but allows us to identify where it is, but also conclusively identify it as a cargo pod from our ship."
"Yessir."
"We have so far detected eight such pod signatures."
"Well, actually-"
"I was told they were pod signatures. Pods which might contain vehicles, tools, supplies, even energy or advanced research documents!"
"Um, yes, sir."
"And EVERY SINGLE POD has so far turned out to be, in fact, an alien structure of unfathomable power and mysterious origin, which, while surely a useful machine, is utterly immobile and has made a great deal of our inhabitable area only slightly better than worthless."
"yes sir."
"Can you tell the difference between a crate and a giant magical rock?"
"no sir."
"Well, at least you've got that right."
[Later]
"Hey man, don't worry about it. He's just still mad at you for landing the first colony pod a thousand miles inland instead of on the coast so we'd have boats and stuff..."
Post by: Twiggie on May 06, 2013, 02:52:54 pm
Posting to watch, you guys are hilarious.
i didnt realise 'hey man play' 'oh sorry dude ive played now' would appear fun :p
i was doing a quick bit of reading, apparently eliminating players can be a bit buggy (here (http://www.civgaming.net/smac/acad_elimination.shtml)). I think the solution presented at the bottom of the page is best.
Post by: PTTG?? on May 06, 2013, 05:47:42 pm
Post by: Mongol13524 on May 07, 2013, 12:16:21 am
Post by: mastahcheese on May 07, 2013, 07:29:59 pm
Posting to watch and think about how much I might have if I could play the darn game. (Not as in this MP, as in how to not completely suck at SMAC/SMAX.)Oh, I'm terrible at it, too. I wish I still had my copy.
Post by: Twiggie on May 07, 2013, 08:15:46 pm
Post by: Mongol13524 on May 08, 2013, 12:31:40 am
its not really so hard once you get to know the tech tree a bit better and understand some of the more advanced game mechanics.So, exactly like every 4X ever?
Post by: Twiggie on May 08, 2013, 11:02:05 am
thing is, i doubt people want to give up information that other people dont know they have, so it might be a bit hard.
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 08, 2013, 11:38:29 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on May 09, 2013, 11:43:30 am
Post by: Twiggie on May 09, 2013, 11:46:14 am
Post by: postal83 on May 09, 2013, 11:59:53 am
Post by: PTTG?? on May 09, 2013, 12:30:34 pm
Post by: Twiggie on May 09, 2013, 12:48:32 pm
Post by: Twiggie on May 11, 2013, 02:16:32 pm
Post by: tahujdt on May 13, 2013, 12:44:48 am
Post by: PTTG?? on May 13, 2013, 12:54:49 am
Post by: tahujdt on May 13, 2013, 12:56:46 am
Ok, make sure you're around in three years when this game is over.Sorry, should have read the thread better. I will stick around, though.
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 13, 2013, 08:26:39 am
I'm feeling pretty good, so far.
Post by: 10ebbor10 on May 13, 2013, 10:32:10 am
If you want to, I suppose you can take over The University. Having serious trouble currently to update in time, something which is not likely to improve in the near future.Ok, make sure you're around in three years when this game is over.Sorry, should have read the thread better. I will stick around, though.
Post by: tahujdt on May 13, 2013, 10:34:34 am
My favorite faction. I would sure like to. Is that ok with everyone else?If you want to, I suppose you can take over The University. Having serious trouble currently to update in time, something which is not likely to improve in the near future.Ok, make sure you're around in three years when this game is over.Sorry, should have read the thread better. I will stick around, though.
Post by: PTTG?? on May 13, 2013, 10:53:24 am
Post by: Twiggie on May 13, 2013, 11:53:55 am
Wasn't planning on writing all that, but mh
Post by: PTTG?? on May 13, 2013, 12:27:28 pm
Post by: mastahcheese on May 13, 2013, 12:32:58 pm
University is pretty much every new player's favourite faction, they're the least balanced of all the starting 7, thanks to the importance of tech and nigh-irrelevance of drones. The gaians come a close second in being overpowered, thanks to that lovely efficiency increase.Back when I had this game when I was a kid, my brother would always choose the university for the tech boost, and I started as the Hive, and never really did that well. But then when I discoved the Gaians, I was able to make ludicrus use of their ability to capture mind worms, and after I figured out that you can change your civics (or whatever they're called), and then focus it all on being as green and tree-hugging as possible, than the chances of mind worm capture actually increases. Just keep a few plots of fungus a bit away from your base, and have high-level units stay on patrol = free units. The looks on my brothers face face when he soaks countless hours upgrading his weapons and armors, only to be assualted by psychic damage. I never even realized they got an efficiency boost.
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 13, 2013, 01:25:38 pm
My favorite faction. I would sure like to. Is that ok with everyone else?Just as a note, the University is currently my good friends.
Post by: tahujdt on May 13, 2013, 01:46:59 pm
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No using the design workshopI assume that means 'Super Singularity Gravship Probability Fungicidal Formers' are out?
Whenever I take over the world, I have an army of those continually clearing fungus and raising ground. Also, I bug-exploit to get a borehole on every uranium flats square, is that out too?
Post by: Twiggie on May 13, 2013, 01:56:22 pm
the main example is that you cant use PlanNet to make rovers.
Post by: 10ebbor10 on May 13, 2013, 02:12:00 pm
Post by: Karlito on May 13, 2013, 06:22:04 pm
Post by: Twiggie on May 14, 2013, 06:40:01 am
Post by: PTTG?? on May 14, 2013, 06:57:31 pm
Post by: Twiggie on May 14, 2013, 07:20:41 pm
Post by: tahujdt on May 14, 2013, 07:21:10 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 16, 2013, 02:59:54 pm
Post by: tahujdt on May 16, 2013, 07:25:06 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on May 16, 2013, 07:25:50 pm
Post by: tahujdt on May 16, 2013, 07:28:57 pm
Whine and ye shall receive. Sorry for the delay, I've been having serious parental issues. Forwarding the save now.
Post by: PTTG?? on May 16, 2013, 09:44:34 pm
Post by: postal83 on May 16, 2013, 09:57:45 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 16, 2013, 10:54:20 pm
Nevermind, got it figured out.
Whine and ye shall receive. Sorry for the delay, I've been having serious parental issues. Forwarding the save now.
Huzzah! I have marked off your turn in the turn-list.
Post by: tahujdt on May 17, 2013, 02:43:31 am
Post by: Un67 on May 17, 2013, 02:17:01 pm
Post by: postal83 on May 17, 2013, 08:25:14 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on May 19, 2013, 02:12:06 am
Post by: Twiggie on May 19, 2013, 04:40:32 am
Post by: tahujdt on May 19, 2013, 12:39:03 pm
Hey dudes, the save I just received says ebbor.. i think I received the turn a little prematurely.I might've sent you the wrong save, let me try again.
Post by: PTTG?? on May 20, 2013, 03:34:34 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on May 21, 2013, 12:03:59 pm
Post by: 10ebbor10 on May 21, 2013, 12:20:05 pm
Post by: USEC_OFFICER on May 21, 2013, 12:20:49 pm
So you managed to replace me with someone even slower?
It appears that way. The irony is quite delicious.
Post by: tahujdt on May 21, 2013, 12:29:18 pm
Finals are over, will post soon.
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 23, 2013, 09:06:04 am
Post by: PTTG?? on May 23, 2013, 11:03:48 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 23, 2013, 11:35:53 am
Post by: Twiggie on May 23, 2013, 12:30:19 pm
Post by: Un67 on May 24, 2013, 08:05:08 am
Post by: Sharp on May 24, 2013, 10:08:09 am
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
You have done maybe an hour or more of an network game, but I think you should still be able to transfer your PBEM to a TCP/IP game, although I dunno if you can transfer TCP/IP to PBEM but it should be possible.
Just a suggestion if you think there is maybe 1 hour where you guys will be free to play you could probably double the turns you have done.
Post by: PTTG?? on May 24, 2013, 10:33:04 am
Post by: 10ebbor10 on May 24, 2013, 11:12:39 am
Post by: PTTG?? on May 24, 2013, 11:21:19 am
Post by: PTTG?? on May 24, 2013, 08:26:33 pm
If play has not been resumed by the time I get up tomorrow, I'll haul somebody else in. I know one or two people from the forums who I'm sure would join.
Awesome, time's up. Let's get this Popsicle stand back on the show!
Post by: postal83 on May 25, 2013, 04:28:48 pm
Post by: Karlito on May 25, 2013, 04:39:52 pm
Post by: Twiggie on May 25, 2013, 05:59:15 pm
Post by: 10ebbor10 on May 26, 2013, 04:43:13 am
no, im playing uni while we wait for a replacement. i dont particularly want to destroy the uni because theyre in the top spot and it could screw up the game balance.I was? Suprising.
Post by: Made of Time on May 26, 2013, 11:29:10 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 26, 2013, 11:45:33 am
-Missive from the desk of Sister Kiera, of the University
Post by: Made of Time on May 26, 2013, 12:27:06 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on May 26, 2013, 05:10:00 pm
Post by: Un67 on May 26, 2013, 07:57:07 pm
The honorable Chairman Yun Lishiqi hereby welcomes the new Provost of the University and hopes to cooperate with him on matters of progress and rational development.
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 27, 2013, 12:19:56 am
With what we've taken, we may read the words of the scripture written within our genes, and I've already set the men to work figuring out how this advanced weaponry functions. Kiera may have a soft spot for her dear provost, and may believe the University her allies in "seeking the truth the Lord wishes to reveal unto us", but I am far more of a realist than she is - they are heathens, ruthless and godless and their treachery knows no bounds. While she distracts them with her sweet words, and while she is in turn distracted by the promise of this new discovery (and what, I wonder, will her reaction be to the news that the University has been less than forthright with her? For make no mistake, before they died those refugees made it quite clear from whence they and their knowledge came), while all that is happening I will be surreptitiously distributing the weapons of the future to our soldiers even now roaming planets surface.
From the desk of Brother Luke, The Diary of the Lord's Will
Post by: Twiggie on May 27, 2013, 06:45:37 am
A fine reminder of the superiority of mankind over such wilderness, and a precursor of the fungus purges that were to come.
The Path to Riches. Morgan.
Post by: Twiggie on May 29, 2013, 01:22:56 pm
OK. :(
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 29, 2013, 01:49:28 pm
Or you probably nerve-stapled to the bastards to "strengthen their resolve".
Post by: Twiggie on May 29, 2013, 03:35:20 pm
The men and women of 01-B carried out their orders to perfection, without the need for financial incentives. The enterprising citizens of Morgan Industries are glad to risk their lives for their fellow man. They know that their survival and prosperity relies on their own sweat - maybe your citizens should follow their example, instead of wasting their time praying in the dirt to a god who never answers.
None of my citizens would take a reward, though it was offered. They know their resoluteness in the face of death has been repaid by the survival of thousands of people just like them. Those few who perished have been placed in the cryo-tanks, awaiting the day when science can make them live again. The cost is inconsequential, considering the state of our capacitors. Can your followers rely on such support, Kiera? Or do they still have delusions about their god providing them with such solutions?
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 29, 2013, 04:17:03 pm
Post by: Un67 on May 29, 2013, 04:17:20 pm
And Morgan, before you boast too highly of your social mobility and equal opportunity, I will bring your attention back to the society of the 19th century. Its form of capitalism is the one that bears greatest resemblance to your own, and you can see quite plainly that there was great social immobility and extremely unequal opportunity. Now, the socialism as practiced by the Soviet Union and such states was no better, with the vanguard elite, which is why it has been our greatest striving to provide true equality to humanity, under the pretenses of working solely for the purpose of the betterment of humanity, not under the nebulous direction of ideology and the bureaucrats that will so readily abuse it. And finally, Sister Kiera, I feel your words have a certain irony to them. Certainly you too have promised a nonexistent reward: the reward of an afterlife in Heaven?
I will say no more, this is quite sufficient.
~Chairman Yun Liushiqi
Post by: Twiggie on May 29, 2013, 04:56:53 pm
Regarding the economic system put in place for my citizens, it is true that there were crippling problems back on Earth. However, I propose that this was a symptom of thousands of years of ingrown and reinforced social policy that could not be changed. The power was far too concentrated, and the mercantilism of those years was a disgrace to mankind, and not worthy of the name of capitalism. I take great affront at such a comparison. I also question your comparison of economic policy of the 19th century and the Soviet Union. Maybe you should take a refresher course on ordinal numbers - I know not everyone's education systems has room for such basic notions. Free education for all is a central policy in every Morganite city, as education is the key to success and advancement.
Regardless, the situation on Earth is hardly the same as it is here. There is no previous economic system to build on, and thus perfection may be achieved, as I'm sure you'd know if only you'd take the time to read my book, The Centauri Monopoly.
Post by: Un67 on May 29, 2013, 06:38:29 pm
Additionally, I am offended that you would stoop to question my educational attainment and personal experience. Morgan, I had graduated from Tsinghua University with full marks - one of the last classes before it had been destroyed in the Second Chinese Revolution. I have served within the public service, and I have worked within the military of both the People's Republic and the Neo-Dynastic Empire, and as such my breadth of experience is unquestionable. I would, however, prefer to debate matters of substance, if that would be at all possible.
P.S. I do accept your apology. Many have a certain amount of ingrained bias against such systems.
~Chairman Yun Liushiqi
Post by: PTTG?? on May 30, 2013, 03:25:39 am
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If I might be the voice of moderation here, may I just say... What's that? The Datalinks?... One moment, gentlemen, I must address an issue with colonial maintenance <clicking noises, feedback, and a thump>--Excerpt, Episode 17, South Centauri Reserve (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdCB9yE9Hcc), Datalinks
<muted, but audible over the feed> What is so important you need to interrupt me during peace talks?... We're THAT far behind them in the power rankings? Well, where do we stand in number of colonies... hmm... I see... Open the feed again...
<click> Ah, as I was saying, gentlemen, erm, sometimes, uh... violence is the best solution. Um, not when talking to me of course, but, well, consider it an, ehm, option, as it were, when solving problems amongst yourselves.
I have to go now, ah, some of my generals want to demonstrate some of our new... mega... tanks. Yes. Mega-tanks. Very big. Very powerful. Remember, violence solves everything!
<click>
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 30, 2013, 11:16:44 am
Well, hypothetically. I really should bring my rovers back to base and upgrade them soon, or at least finish that damn prototype.
Post by: Un67 on June 01, 2013, 06:51:05 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on June 01, 2013, 08:06:13 pm
Post by: Twiggie on June 02, 2013, 06:05:56 pm
Post by: Karlito on June 02, 2013, 07:42:48 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on June 02, 2013, 11:34:01 pm
OH MAH GAWD, TWO TURNS IN ONE DAY!
Post by: Twiggie on June 04, 2013, 07:22:27 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on June 04, 2013, 10:26:38 am
Post by: Twiggie on June 04, 2013, 10:58:58 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on June 04, 2013, 11:00:44 am
I've got another city that should be founded in a couple turns, too. (I would have another city ALREADY but god-damn mind worms)
Post by: Twiggie on June 04, 2013, 11:03:36 am
Post by: PTTG?? on June 04, 2013, 11:23:27 am
Noooooo, I'm no longer on the scoreboard for any of the top factions :<
Oh dear.
Post by: GlyphGryph on June 04, 2013, 11:31:04 am
But luckily quick thinking saw me through with no pop loss. The worms took the bait of a weak unit on fungus, I finished an assault team the next turn and blew them up.
If my colony pod HAD been completed, they might have wiped the entire city out. >_>
Post by: PTTG?? on June 06, 2013, 01:26:06 am
Post by: Twiggie on June 06, 2013, 06:39:44 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on June 06, 2013, 08:25:59 am
Post by: PTTG?? on June 07, 2013, 03:59:12 pm
Post by: Twiggie on June 09, 2013, 04:55:15 am
where are youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Post by: Karlito on June 09, 2013, 02:07:52 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on June 09, 2013, 03:30:00 pm
Post by: Karlito on June 09, 2013, 03:38:18 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on June 09, 2013, 04:49:36 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on June 09, 2013, 09:56:05 pm
It's amazing- 25 years ago, professor Mcdonnell had been approached by a re-breather-masked man who asked him if he would like to take a part in the first real research project on Chiron.
It was hard to believe, to say the least. At the time, Mcdonnell had been manually digging trenches for sewage treatment... back then, strong backs were far more useful than strong minds, as the chaos of the initial landing was still subsiding.
For nearly three decades, Mcdonnell had watched his fellow researchers and scientists grow old, working on this special project. His own daughter had been born, and she grew up working with the gene sequencing equipment that he himself had designed. There were shortfalls, yes. There were issues that the earth-side researchers would never have anticipated. But now, though he was getting older (not that retiring was much of an option), the end was in sight. There were terabytes of information, not only about human genes, but also proteins which planet's biosphere shared with earth life, and lingering hints of some kind of other connection... all that remained was to process the data, breaking it down into real, usable knowledge about the human genetic code.
Mcdonnell finally finished his report, giving an estimate of seven years, given good conditions, before completion. 20 years ago, he'd sent a similar report. But this time he was sure.
Thirty minutes after he sent the message to the leadership council, the man who'd first visited him out in the sump fields, a man who never seemed to age, visited Mcdonnell's quarters. Apparently he decided this project needed his personal attention. Seven years was simply too long...
Post by: Twiggie on June 10, 2013, 07:14:04 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on June 10, 2013, 09:34:45 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on June 10, 2013, 10:27:56 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on June 10, 2013, 11:07:05 pm
Post by: Karlito on June 10, 2013, 11:13:08 pm
Post by: Un67 on June 11, 2013, 02:58:09 pm
Post by: Twiggie on June 11, 2013, 03:48:27 pm
until the spartans hit your p-defenses with probes :D
Post by: Un67 on June 11, 2013, 06:42:14 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on June 13, 2013, 05:56:52 pm
Post by: postal83 on June 14, 2013, 07:49:11 am
Post by: MarcAFK on June 14, 2013, 08:44:34 am
Post by: PTTG?? on June 14, 2013, 06:52:45 pm
Post by: postal83 on June 14, 2013, 07:55:41 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on June 15, 2013, 01:17:57 am
Post by: Twiggie on June 15, 2013, 01:13:13 pm
Post by: Made of Time on June 15, 2013, 01:35:41 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on June 16, 2013, 10:27:13 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on June 16, 2013, 05:35:50 pm
Figured it out.
Post by: Twiggie on June 19, 2013, 04:13:20 am
Post by: postal83 on June 19, 2013, 02:06:54 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on June 19, 2013, 02:33:48 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on June 20, 2013, 09:28:49 pm
Post by: Twiggie on June 20, 2013, 10:03:02 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on June 20, 2013, 10:04:23 pm
Post by: Twiggie on June 21, 2013, 10:09:39 am
I'm thinking of doing a remake of this game, actually. It's been on my 'cool coding projects to do' list for a while, and I don't think it would be particularly hard, though it may take a while. Being able to add new features like 14 players, or improve the MP section, would just be so awesome. I'll probably never get round to it, though, and even if I do I'm sure there'd be legal problems :<
Post by: Made of Time on June 21, 2013, 10:28:36 pm
Post by: mastahcheese on June 22, 2013, 12:13:27 am
Post by: Twiggie on June 23, 2013, 10:56:51 am
:(
Post by: Un67 on June 23, 2013, 11:36:03 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on June 23, 2013, 02:53:15 pm
Post by: Twiggie on June 23, 2013, 03:56:06 pm
nothing in my inbox :< no doubt karlito will have it to me when i wake up, though
Post by: Un67 on June 23, 2013, 08:16:52 pm
Post by: Twiggie on June 25, 2013, 09:13:10 am
If anyone is lurking and wants to play, I'd be very happy to take your info so you can sub in these situations.
Post by: Twiggie on June 26, 2013, 09:11:59 pm
OK, it has a limit. but its still a lot, dammit.
Post by: PTTG?? on June 27, 2013, 12:10:18 am
I hate trigonoromy/
Post by: Twiggie on June 28, 2013, 02:57:05 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on June 28, 2013, 03:08:02 pm
Sent.
Post by: Twiggie on June 29, 2013, 08:51:35 am
Post by: Twiggie on June 30, 2013, 12:17:05 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on June 30, 2013, 05:20:44 pm
Post by: Un67 on June 30, 2013, 08:40:17 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on June 30, 2013, 11:04:19 pm
Post by: Karlito on June 30, 2013, 11:12:01 pm
Post by: Twiggie on July 01, 2013, 07:23:55 am
Post by: Un67 on July 01, 2013, 10:44:59 am
Post by: Twiggie on July 01, 2013, 10:53:48 am
Post by: PTTG?? on July 01, 2013, 11:35:28 pm
Post by: Un67 on July 02, 2013, 07:55:07 am
Post by: postal83 on July 02, 2013, 07:54:18 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on July 03, 2013, 09:16:46 pm
#SisterKieraSMAC at irc.darkmyst.org
There is someone in particular I would very much like to talk with. You know who you are.
Post by: Un67 on July 05, 2013, 05:41:28 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on July 06, 2013, 12:06:51 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on July 06, 2013, 12:17:46 pm
Post by: Twiggie on July 07, 2013, 05:23:01 am
Post by: Un67 on July 07, 2013, 07:41:22 am
Post by: Karlito on July 07, 2013, 09:30:03 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on July 12, 2013, 07:11:55 pm
Ahhhhh my email isn't working at all. Files corrupted. I have a backup, but I need a windows machine to set it up. I'm just going to get a yahoo account for now.
Good news is, I got WINE working, so I can run SMAC. I think it actually runs better under wine than it does on windows 7.
Post by: Karlito on July 13, 2013, 11:51:07 am
Post by: Twiggie on July 13, 2013, 05:17:32 pm
I have more important stuff to tech to :p
Post by: Un67 on July 13, 2013, 05:27:42 pm
Kind of surprised you didn't get it earlier, actually.
Post by: PTTG?? on July 13, 2013, 05:56:48 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on July 15, 2013, 08:43:44 pm
Post by: Twiggie on July 18, 2013, 11:50:38 am
Post by: Un67 on July 19, 2013, 07:25:25 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on July 19, 2013, 07:25:48 pm
Post by: Twiggie on July 21, 2013, 01:25:50 pm
Also, Believers top tech? Dafuq is happening?
Post by: PTTG?? on July 21, 2013, 02:06:14 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on July 21, 2013, 06:19:49 pm
Also, Believers top tech? Dafuq is happening?
It is the will of the Lord that we unlock the secrets he has hidden within the eden he created for us.
That is what we shall do.
Post by: postal83 on July 23, 2013, 09:35:38 am
Post by: Un67 on July 27, 2013, 06:42:25 am
I will be away for 5 days starting on Tuesday. Twiggie, would it be OK if you subbed in for my turns during the period?
Post by: Twiggie on July 28, 2013, 02:17:01 am
Post by: Twiggie on July 28, 2013, 10:06:18 am
Post by: Karlito on July 28, 2013, 08:55:37 pm
Post by: Twiggie on July 29, 2013, 02:40:03 am
Post by: Un67 on July 29, 2013, 09:58:38 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on July 29, 2013, 10:24:03 am
Are we sure postal ever received the turn? He certainly didn't mark it. Did Made of Thyme take his turn?
Post by: postal83 on July 29, 2013, 12:01:58 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on July 29, 2013, 12:12:35 pm
Because I certainly never got it.
Post by: Un67 on July 29, 2013, 03:32:55 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on July 29, 2013, 03:46:52 pm
PTTG might have thought he sent it or forgot to send it after he finished or something. Either way looks like it is currently with him, then...
Post by: PTTG?? on July 29, 2013, 04:11:46 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on July 29, 2013, 04:13:15 pm
Also, update the damn turn tracker people.
Post by: PTTG?? on July 29, 2013, 06:11:51 pm
Post by: Un67 on July 29, 2013, 06:54:35 pm
On a more positive note, I managed to save a Former from some mind worms. Huzzah!
Post by: Un67 on August 03, 2013, 02:15:03 pm
Post by: postal83 on August 04, 2013, 09:13:52 pm
I just completed my turn and sent off to PTTG, but I don't plan to play again... it's just not fun anymore and feels like a chore now. Probably why I only play MMOs for the first free month.
Twiggie should have my password.
Post by: Un67 on August 06, 2013, 09:40:19 am
Post by: Twiggie on August 06, 2013, 09:57:07 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on August 06, 2013, 10:29:08 am
/me flashes a nefarious grin.
We can say he was born again as the result of a spontaneous conversion! It will be glorious!
Post by: PTTG?? on August 06, 2013, 02:26:35 pm
Post by: Un67 on August 06, 2013, 04:39:58 pm
Post by: Made of Time on August 07, 2013, 09:40:16 am
Post by: Twiggie on August 07, 2013, 12:47:57 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on August 07, 2013, 12:56:26 pm
Post by: Twiggie on August 07, 2013, 01:01:32 pm
Post by: Made of Time on August 08, 2013, 05:03:24 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on August 11, 2013, 11:57:15 am
Post by: Made of Time on August 11, 2013, 07:14:44 pm
Post by: Un67 on August 11, 2013, 07:49:53 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on August 12, 2013, 12:08:01 am
Post by: Karlito on August 12, 2013, 01:33:53 am
In the absence of a replacement, I think it's fair to give the Gaians to the person whose score is lowest.
Uh, is that me?
Post by: Made of Time on August 12, 2013, 08:10:02 am
Post by: Karlito on August 12, 2013, 09:01:18 am
Post by: Twiggie on August 13, 2013, 11:16:13 am
I'll pm you the password, Karlito
Post by: Karlito on August 13, 2013, 09:38:53 pm
Post by: Twiggie on August 14, 2013, 03:07:52 am
Post by: Karlito on August 14, 2013, 08:36:18 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on August 20, 2013, 12:03:57 pm
Post by: Un67 on August 20, 2013, 08:52:46 pm
EDIT: NVM, found it after some browsing. Will just keep saving into the separate folder, though, much more convenient.
Post by: PTTG?? on August 20, 2013, 09:58:52 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on August 25, 2013, 02:08:32 pm
Gryyyyyyph...
Post by: GlyphGryph on August 25, 2013, 02:23:35 pm
Post by: Karlito on August 25, 2013, 06:56:08 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on August 25, 2013, 07:43:24 pm
Post by: Un67 on September 04, 2013, 02:39:58 pm
Chairman's Burrow, 2158
Pacing the corridors of Chairman's Burrow, Atticus Brown nervously awaited further news from the upper levels of the base. His father Ian was the fledgling base's security guard, and two mind worm boils had been spotted not long before, sent to shore by an Isle of the Deep. The sounds of screeching and of the flamethrower had been heard for days, and they had said that now the noise had stopped. Everyone awaited the newest news; no one knew whether Ian Brown had won or if the mind worms had gotten him once and for all. Though Supervisor Hussein had scolded him for doubting his father and urged him to return to his work immediately, even the local boss's words could not stop him. It was not long before the sound of the mind worms boring through metal could be heard on the upper levels. Ian Brown was dead, and soon the base would be helpless. Supervisor Hussein was about to order a former team on the surface to move in and stall the worms, but even that could only hold them off for a few days, and it would mean the deaths of innocents.
For the first time, Atticus said something he did not think he would in a lifetime. "No."
Supervisor Hussein looked back at him and raised an eyebrow. "Is that what I think I heard? No? Boy, do you want us to die? The men and women on the former team are more then willing to make a sacrifice for the greater cause so that we might live. Don't contradict me again, boy, unless you value your life."
His bravery unrelenting, Atticus replied. "No. The former team might hold them back for an hour if you're lucky, but they aren't trained solders. How are they supposed to hold back against a boil of mind worms? Once they've been beaten, it'll be for nothing, since they'll just burrow right through the hatch afterwards."
"And we're supposed to just do nothing and let them kill all of us here? Is that the plan now?"
Atticus stepped forward to meet the gaze of Supervisor Hussein. "We need someone to fight them. I'll do that - I'll avenge my father, and keep those damned worms back if it's the last thing I do. I swear it on his name."
Examining Atticus briefly, and then sighing, the Supervisor conceded, "Young man, I suppose you are brave, at least. It will be a long time before any reinforcements can reasonably arrive, and the Network Node's completion can wait in the face of more urgent concerns. Fine, go to the workshop, and collect what you need, but let me tell you that it may indeed be the last thing you do."
With that, Atticus sprinted towards the workshop, weaving between the base's denizens in a hurry to get past them. Soon he found himself in the workshop where he spent most of his working days, and before him Mihai Ivanov, both his friend and colleague. He was a tinker at heart; if any man could put together the equipment he needed with the parts of a Network Node, it was him.
"Mihai, I-"
Chuckling, Mihai replied, "Atticus, I know, I know. Here, let me take your measurements: we'll end up wasting some of the materials but it'll be for the better. Now, if you could just stand over here..."
Over the next half hour, he built a crude but serviceable suit of synthsteel armor, and then a crude flame thrower from spare parts meant for the heaters. It was a rather jury-rigged set, but it was... something, at the least. Atticus felt more of a soldier than ever - even though he had hardly any training, he more than knew what he needed to do. Looking back at Mihai, he said only, "I'm ready."
"I know you are. Now, quick, to the surface! It'll be a matter of minutes before they puncture the hatch!"
***
For what seemed to be an eternity Atticus fought the boil of mind worms. His father had defeated the first and fallen to the second, now Atticus had to follow the job. At first he thought he would lose himself in the pain and horror of the unthinkable, but he steeled his resolve. This was for the good people of Chairman's Burrow, for his father, for Mihai, and yes, even for Supervisor Hussein. They were all his people, damn it, and he was going to protect them with whatever he had. But for one moment his will faltered at the boil lunged at him, beginning to burrow through his armor with razor sharp cutters. He summoned his very last reserve of stamina and willpower to switch on his flamethrower for one final burst, and the searing flame burned away both mind worm and his own exposed flesh. But it was the last of them, the force was beaten. In relief, he collapsed onto the ground.
***
It was two days later that he awoke in Chairman's Burrow's infirmary. Before him, he could see Mihai's proud smile, and the considerably sterner smile of Supervisor Hussein besides him. There was a third figure, though, and Atticus's vision was too blurry at first to make him out. Was this who he thought he was? Was this really-
"Young Atticus Brown, let me, on the behalf of all of the citizens of the Human Hive, congratulate you for your bravery and mettle fighting against the mind worms. I had been monitoring the situation from the Hive, and I had my doubts as to whether your base would survive. But through the sacrifice of your father, the bravery of yourself, the ingenuity of your friend Mihai, and the momentary leniency of your Supervisor, it seems that you have pulled through. I apologize for what you have endured, but it was for the better of all of us."
Atticus bowed his head, and said simply, "It was only what we all should have done."
Offering a rare smile, before departing the room, Chairman Yun said, "Yes, truly, it was."
Post by: GlyphGryph on September 04, 2013, 03:55:31 pm
He could feel the time that had passed in his bones, and it infuriated him that always, every time, she was a step ahead of him. Every time he thought he'd found a way to upset her grip on power, she'd find a way to cut off his ambitions at their knees - without, it seemed, ever being aware of what she was doing. Was she truly blessed? Had the Lord seen fit to insure her success and Luke's failure?
Or was she simply an incredibly good actor?
Either way, he could not argue with the effectiveness of her economic programs - reports indicated that expansion was progressing ahead of all estimates. And Kiera had finally agreed to the formation of a small army to send north into the unexplored wilds and return with what they could find. But it wasn't enough. They were growing, yes, but she was leaving them desperately weak - it was almost as if she did not understand just how dangerous a world they found themselves in. It wasn't just the occasional mind worm attacks - against the faith of the believers, those were but annoyances. It wasn't the unrest from the drones - again, there was no real threat from that direction. No, it was from the conniving backstabbers, the outright heathans she insisted on calling friends and allies.
He cursed, under his breath, before crossing himself and asking the Lord for forgiveness. He knew the monsters to their south were preparing for war - he could feel it in his bones, in his soul. All of their improvements, their expansion, their industrious efforts, would be useless in the face of the assault he knew was coming. And he'd thought for sure he'd found a way to prove it, to demonstrate to Sister Kiera that his beliefs were true - but the infiltration had ended poorly. He'd known there would be risks, but outright murder of his diplomatic envoy?
That was not what he'd expected. And the worst part was, while he was sure that in and of itself was enough evidence for the Believers to take action, if he revealed that he'd siphoned the supplies off to train and recruit the infiltration team, and that he'd taken the action unilaterally risking a confrontation and potential breakdown in negotiation against direct orders, he'd be cut out of the loop. Without his influence, he couldn't be sure of what action would be taken - and anything but a dedicated strike with the full momentum of the Believer forces was doomed to failure.
If they'd returned with the information he needed, he could have passed it off as coming from University defectors. He could used the information to demonstrate that outright war was the only option. He could have understood what a war would mean - what they were up against - and insured there was an appropriate response. But yet again, he was hindered, a massive black unknown, festering like an open wound to their south, a volcano building up steam in the heat of their immoral sin and threatening to spill over without notice and swallow them all.
Brother Luke slammed his fist into his simply wooden table. What was he going to do now?
Post by: PTTG?? on September 04, 2013, 07:34:09 pm
Later, eating the worm-and-reclaimed-fungus-surprise with "Nearly Undetectable" brand organonitriate extract, he thought to himself... Man, this would probably taste better with fish... but then we'd need foils. And access to the coast. That would be a plus.
Post by: Twiggie on September 05, 2013, 05:28:32 am
Also, wanted to check some stuff with you guys; should seeing somebody's base be sufficient for radio contact? Even if your units aren't close enough to normally give that? I want to think yes, thought I'd check first, since apparently theres no facility for trading radio frequencies in MP...
Post by: GlyphGryph on September 05, 2013, 08:10:13 am
And you fucking IGNORED ME you dick. Worst money I ever spent!
Post by: Twiggie on September 05, 2013, 09:04:10 am
I should really check that shit more often
Post by: PTTG?? on September 05, 2013, 02:05:58 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on September 05, 2013, 02:14:30 pm
Post by: Twiggie on September 05, 2013, 02:54:15 pm
Council may be opened once a player has legitimate contact to all other players. I still don't have that, but if someone does, it obviously starts with planetary governor elections, and feel free to do so at any time.
Idk if this has been said yet, but the person who calls the vote is required to post all vote counts here, so that negotiation for votes can happen.
Once its called all nations can communicate freely.
Post by: Un67 on September 05, 2013, 03:04:28 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on September 05, 2013, 07:34:33 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on September 05, 2013, 09:59:26 pm
Post by: Twiggie on September 06, 2013, 06:00:21 am
No promises at this time, it all depends on just how many votes I need. Get building your pop now and vote for the only real choice!
I imagine the vote will be between me, glyph and whoever calls the vote, unless someone has a bunch of monsoon cities that I'm not aware of
Post by: Made of Time on September 06, 2013, 09:41:36 am
Post by: Made of Time on September 06, 2013, 09:45:06 am
Post by: Made of Time on September 06, 2013, 09:54:31 am
Post by: Twiggie on September 06, 2013, 10:28:01 am
I offer a pact of brotherhood to all those who vote Morgan.
Post by: GlyphGryph on September 06, 2013, 10:51:41 am
Post by: Twiggie on September 06, 2013, 10:55:52 am
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: PTTG?? on September 06, 2013, 12:01:57 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on September 06, 2013, 12:08:29 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Made of Time on September 06, 2013, 01:04:02 pm
Post by: Twiggie on September 06, 2013, 01:09:41 pm
As far as I know this is all hypothetical anyway, unless somebody actually has all the comms keys?
Post by: Made of Time on September 06, 2013, 01:23:01 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on September 06, 2013, 01:37:22 pm
And if everyone else I messaged would actually talk to me I might well be able to get that!
Post by: Karlito on September 06, 2013, 06:49:50 pm
Also, I don't believe I've received Spartan 2159 from you, GG.
Post by: Twiggie on September 08, 2013, 04:49:39 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on September 08, 2013, 10:00:33 pm
Post by: Karlito on September 08, 2013, 10:09:43 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on September 13, 2013, 05:35:43 pm
Well, not, like, actually. What they did was force me to switch my node to new security patrol after they ate the old one...
Bah
Post by: PTTG?? on September 15, 2013, 08:22:12 pm
Anyway, are we going to get a planetary council meeting soon or what?
Post by: Un67 on September 15, 2013, 08:39:09 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on September 15, 2013, 09:49:30 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on September 15, 2013, 11:07:35 pm
Dang mind worms are acting like I'm a major polluter when I don't think I have any kind of substantial industrial activity at all...So, ah, slight problem. I kind of forgot who I've gotten the comms for. You can trade them, yes... but it doesnt keep track of them, heh.
Anyway, are we going to get a planetary council meeting soon or what?
I have Believers (duh), Morganites, University, and Peacekeepers for sure. If anyone has the comms for the Hive, Spartans, and Gaians, either pass (or re-pass) those comms to me, or pass it to one of the above factions and tell them to pass it to me.
And then we can get this show on the road!
Post by: PTTG?? on September 16, 2013, 10:20:20 am
Post by: Un67 on September 16, 2013, 03:54:16 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on September 16, 2013, 06:13:24 pm
Post by: Karlito on September 16, 2013, 06:30:44 pm
I have Spartans, and... well, that's about it. :PYes, we seem to be trapped on isolation island together.
Morganites should be able to get you the Gaians comm freq though.
Post by: Twiggie on September 17, 2013, 09:07:18 am
Post by: PTTG?? on September 17, 2013, 01:41:01 pm
yay.
Post by: Burnination on September 20, 2013, 04:01:42 pm
I have no idea what that sentence means but he told me to say it :).
Post by: Karlito on September 20, 2013, 05:45:15 pm
Post by: Un67 on September 20, 2013, 06:16:00 pm
Post by: Twiggie on September 20, 2013, 06:20:04 pm
thanks
Post by: Burnination on September 20, 2013, 06:22:45 pm
Post by: Karlito on September 20, 2013, 06:48:26 pm
excellent, karlito would you mind filling him in with the info for gaians pw/forwarding email?
It has been done. Made of Thyme knows where to send the turns?
Post by: Twiggie on September 20, 2013, 07:03:13 pm
Post by: Burnination on September 21, 2013, 08:05:16 am
Post by: Un67 on September 22, 2013, 06:14:52 pm
Post by: Twiggie on September 22, 2013, 06:40:12 pm
Post by: Un67 on September 22, 2013, 07:00:05 pm
Post by: Karlito on September 22, 2013, 07:42:56 pm
Post by: Burnination on September 22, 2013, 08:16:50 pm
Also how do I ingratiate myself with everyone at once? Pictures of kittens work for everyone? :D
Post by: Made of Time on September 23, 2013, 12:05:06 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on September 24, 2013, 11:36:48 pm
Post by: Un67 on September 25, 2013, 07:29:58 pm
Post by: Twiggie on September 28, 2013, 04:35:31 am
Post by: Burnination on September 29, 2013, 12:16:43 am
Post by: PTTG?? on September 29, 2013, 12:51:39 am
Post by: Un67 on September 29, 2013, 08:15:22 am
(Also, I really wouldn't recommend discussing piracy here.)
Post by: PTTG?? on September 29, 2013, 11:58:54 am
So yeah, no naval campaigns for the time being.
Post by: Un67 on September 29, 2013, 02:02:03 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on September 30, 2013, 12:24:14 pm
Post by: Twiggie on September 30, 2013, 12:56:03 pm
check my research next turn. its a little bit higher than yours.
Post by: Un67 on September 30, 2013, 03:40:06 pm
Post by: Made of Time on October 02, 2013, 08:58:54 pm
Post by: Twiggie on October 03, 2013, 05:00:34 am
Post by: 10ebbor10 on October 06, 2013, 03:39:32 pm
Post by: Un67 on October 07, 2013, 08:47:41 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on October 08, 2013, 01:00:30 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 08, 2013, 01:04:46 am
Ah well.
Post by: Un67 on October 08, 2013, 05:22:57 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on October 09, 2013, 12:25:46 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 11, 2013, 09:37:28 pm
Vote for me! Whoo!
But seriously vote for me. I'll give you, like, a tech.
Post by: Twiggie on October 12, 2013, 02:11:31 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 12, 2013, 02:30:50 am
Post by: Twiggie on October 12, 2013, 02:57:28 am
Idk if this has been said yet, but the person who calls the vote is required to post all vote counts here, so that negotiation for votes can happen.
Do you really think its fair for someone to call the vote and their opposition have no information on who they need to win the vote until potentially every other player has voted?
Post by: Made of Time on October 12, 2013, 03:24:04 pm
13.1. If you call a meeting of the Planetary Council, at first you have to send an email message to all of the other players stating: a) what is being voted on, b) what choices are available, c) if it a vote for governor then how many votes each faction gets. This rule is necessary so that players who will vote near the end of the election have a chance to make promises and influence the votes of players who must vote earlier.
Current vote totals:
Believers - 40
Spartans - 13
Morganites - 25
University - 15
Gaians - 8
Peacekeepers - 12
Hive - 13
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 12, 2013, 03:40:38 pm
Myself and Twiggie are the two who are up for election, vote counts Time mentioned above are correct.
Post by: Twiggie on October 12, 2013, 04:02:53 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 15, 2013, 02:57:02 pm
In fact... you are probably doing that right now, aren't you? It's all just backroom dealings and greased palms!
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 15, 2013, 08:00:21 pm
What the hell. The hole point of this vote was for me to get the lay of the land, but there's not actually a way to see who voted for what? That's dumb. Is the vote supposed to be a secret vote?
Post by: PTTG?? on October 15, 2013, 10:45:16 pm
Post by: Karlito on October 15, 2013, 11:58:06 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 16, 2013, 12:11:52 am
Post by: Made of Time on October 16, 2013, 09:25:49 am
13.2. As the players voting at the beginning of the circle don't get an information about the voting of the later factions, all players have to tell by email how they voted, so that all players the same information have about the voting of the others.
On my turn, the vote count was 53-25. Glyph & Karlito had voted for Glyph, and Twiggie had voted for Twiggie. I abstained from the vote.
Post by: Made of Time on October 16, 2013, 09:28:35 am
Post by: Un67 on October 16, 2013, 01:45:59 pm
Post by: Twiggie on October 16, 2013, 02:19:00 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 16, 2013, 02:19:59 pm
Sorry, I don't have the exact numbers, but I do remember I was the swing vote that brought Twiggie the victory.
I will remember this, then.
Post by: Un67 on October 16, 2013, 09:27:21 pm
Post by: Twiggie on October 18, 2013, 05:44:29 am
Post by: Un67 on October 18, 2013, 08:45:04 am
EDIT: Burn told me he hasn't received the turn yet.
Post by: Made of Time on October 18, 2013, 07:40:04 pm
Post by: Twiggie on October 21, 2013, 09:38:02 am
mm.
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 21, 2013, 10:43:42 am
Post by: PTTG?? on October 21, 2013, 11:24:16 am
Post by: mastahcheese on October 21, 2013, 08:18:14 pm
Oh, wait.
Post by: Made of Time on October 22, 2013, 09:01:34 am
Post by: Un67 on October 22, 2013, 04:25:00 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on October 22, 2013, 04:48:27 pm
Post by: Un67 on October 22, 2013, 04:54:51 pm
Post by: Karlito on October 22, 2013, 06:50:26 pm
(we're back on)
Post by: Twiggie on October 23, 2013, 08:10:54 am
Post by: Twiggie on November 03, 2013, 10:49:39 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on November 03, 2013, 12:22:54 pm
Post by: Karlito on November 03, 2013, 01:25:42 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on November 14, 2013, 11:27:43 am
Post by: Un67 on November 14, 2013, 06:33:43 pm
Post by: Twiggie on November 16, 2013, 10:29:32 am
For some reason my social engineering screen gives the wrong numbers, too. It tells me I should get techs in 5 turns, but the science screen still tells me every 6 :/
Post by: GlyphGryph on November 16, 2013, 11:00:37 am
Also, glad to hear things are going poorly for you, Governor. ;)
Post by: Twiggie on November 20, 2013, 12:51:09 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on November 20, 2013, 03:37:56 pm
Post by: Made of Time on November 21, 2013, 12:28:16 am
Post by: Un67 on November 21, 2013, 02:45:37 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on November 21, 2013, 04:44:16 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on November 22, 2013, 09:06:49 pm
Question:
Is there any fucking way to figure out what the hell happened on not-your-turn? Apparently I've lost a whole bunch of battles! Destroyed units, I assume. What units? Who knows. Where? Beats me. It's certainly been a while since the last time I saw this goddamn map.
I'm getting killed over here, I've lost 5 battles in the last three turns, and I have no idea how or by who.
Post by: Karlito on November 22, 2013, 09:08:17 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on November 24, 2013, 12:19:58 pm
Post by: Twiggie on December 04, 2013, 09:25:24 am
Post by: Un67 on December 08, 2013, 08:23:40 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 08, 2013, 08:50:04 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 09, 2013, 08:57:17 am
Post by: PTTG?? on December 09, 2013, 12:39:50 pm
Post by: mastahcheese on December 09, 2013, 03:55:25 pm
We should do something special for the 100th turn. I'm thinking that I'll put up a censored world map for public consumption and maybe a nice bit of flavor text.I would like this.
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 20, 2013, 08:56:07 pm
Post by: Un67 on December 21, 2013, 09:37:49 am
Post by: Made of Time on December 21, 2013, 04:46:13 pm
Post by: Un67 on December 22, 2013, 11:30:42 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 23, 2013, 01:53:04 am
Vote counts are:
Dierdre: 13
Lal: 18
Chairman Yun: 15
Twiggie: 49
Karlita: 25
GlyphGryph: 69
Made of Time: 26
Please post after you vote with who you voted for.
Also vote for me. :)
If I'm not already giving you stuff, I will.
Also, I voted for myself.
Post by: PTTG?? on December 23, 2013, 02:27:17 pm
Post by: Twiggie on December 23, 2013, 02:33:08 pm
Post by: Karlito on December 23, 2013, 11:43:51 pm
Post by: Twiggie on December 24, 2013, 10:19:20 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 24, 2013, 11:25:26 am
Post by: Made of Time on December 24, 2013, 10:34:46 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 25, 2013, 03:50:51 pm
Post by: Karlito on January 06, 2014, 12:34:08 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 06, 2014, 12:59:01 am
Post by: Made of Time on January 14, 2014, 07:58:16 pm
Post by: Karlito on January 14, 2014, 08:18:49 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 15, 2014, 01:20:11 am
Post by: Un67 on January 15, 2014, 11:53:24 am
Post by: Made of Time on January 16, 2014, 12:52:37 am
Post by: Made of Time on January 16, 2014, 09:38:07 am
Post by: PTTG?? on January 16, 2014, 12:03:56 pm
Post by: Made of Time on January 23, 2014, 09:31:13 am
Post by: Twiggie on January 23, 2014, 09:47:03 am
Post by: PTTG?? on January 23, 2014, 12:06:59 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 23, 2014, 12:43:55 pm
...yep, confirmed, sent 2194 to Karlito. Haven't received 2195. Can you guys update the spreadsheet with the last turn you completed?
Post by: Karlito on January 23, 2014, 07:55:06 pm
I think this cancels out with that one time I finished the turn in 20 minutes :P.
Post by: PTTG?? on January 23, 2014, 09:10:35 pm
Post by: Twiggie on January 24, 2014, 10:00:06 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 24, 2014, 01:40:22 pm
So don't be surprised if I don't take many turns during that time!
Post by: Karlito on February 22, 2014, 07:58:41 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on February 22, 2014, 11:28:04 pm
Post by: Twiggie on February 23, 2014, 06:44:40 am
Post by: Made of Time on February 23, 2014, 02:35:40 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 23, 2014, 03:14:16 pm
As I mentioned, 2+ week vacation! But back now.
Post by: MarcAFK on February 25, 2014, 07:37:50 am
And maybe install some turn limits, damn, 9 days average per turn :P
Post by: Twiggie on February 25, 2014, 02:17:38 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 25, 2014, 02:37:49 pm
I'm sure it will speed up alot when it's just me and my friends left, huehuehue
Post by: MarcAFK on February 26, 2014, 02:47:51 am
Post by: Twiggie on February 26, 2014, 02:20:51 pm
Post by: Made of Time on February 26, 2014, 03:43:39 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on February 26, 2014, 05:12:40 pm
"Yes sir. Severely."
"This pod being, essentially, a shipping container with parachutes and reentry shielding?"
"Well, yes, sir."
"'Pod' is perhaps an overly extravagant name. A box, or a crate, really."
"...You could say that, sir."
"How does a crate malfunction? Outside of breaking, perhaps?"
"Sir?"
"Let's move on. This malfunction unleashed an earthquake according to your report, is that correct?"
"Yes sir."
"Did the box contain angry spirits? Malevolent deities?"
"Records say the pod contained algal food packs. Sir."
"Is Planet allergic to algae?"
"Not to my knowledge, sir."
"One last thing. Your report states without further comment that the resultant land displacement was a vertical amount of several thousand kilometers, sufficient to bring hundreds of new acres of land not only above sea level, stranding our nearby aquatic base in a barren desert, but also redirecting the flow of a major river besides."
"Yes, sir?"
"That's a damn strange earthquake."
"I'm afraid I'm not a geologist, sir."
"You're not a cartographer either, this new land mass is apparently perfectly square. Well, since you're still the best expert we have on this new phenomenon, I'm transferring you to inventory and receiving. Please use your knowledge to ensure that we don't have any of our more recently-manufactured crates suddenly burst into new mountain ranges- oh, don't look so downhearted. This isn't a demotion. I would consider it a valuable career move. In fact, do well there and I may have a position for you in a diplomatic venture."
"...Seriously?"
"Yes, I understand Morgan Enterprises is in need of a new warehousing clerk. Good-day."
Post by: tahujdt on February 27, 2014, 07:46:45 pm
-snip-This is hilarious.
Post by: Made of Time on March 07, 2014, 09:02:57 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 07, 2014, 09:22:19 am
I passed on 2197 to Karlito ages ago. (over a week ago)
Post by: Karlito on March 07, 2014, 09:51:53 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 07, 2014, 09:59:42 am
Post by: Made of Time on March 10, 2014, 10:34:29 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on March 11, 2014, 01:42:55 am
I still want to publish a world map for the lurkers (assuming they're still out there) in MY 100.
Post by: Delta Foxtrot on March 13, 2014, 06:37:16 pm
I still want to publish a world map for the lurkers (assuming they're still out there) in MY 100.
'Sup.
Post by: MarcAFK on March 15, 2014, 11:08:03 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 15, 2014, 01:01:20 pm
I'll be posting a lot more flavour stuff soon enough.
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 17, 2014, 11:53:29 pm
Post by: tahujdt on March 18, 2014, 02:25:41 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 18, 2014, 02:27:40 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on March 18, 2014, 04:27:56 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on March 18, 2014, 11:02:02 pm
Save has been passed on. Let's get this turn-of-the-century stuff rolling.
Post by: Karlito on March 20, 2014, 11:41:57 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 21, 2014, 12:04:55 am
Post by: PTTG?? on March 22, 2014, 11:21:51 am
"Stop them! Security! Probe team in the Datali-arghh!"
"Erm, never mind. Everything's fine here, we're all fine... how are you?"
[COMMENCING UPLOAD...]
Spoiler: world map overview (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: UN Peacekeeper refugee centers, including Crate Mountain (click to show/hide)
I find it fascinating that UN Ocean Authority is now in the middle of a desert.
Post by: Twiggie on March 22, 2014, 05:32:30 pm
Post by: Patchy on March 25, 2014, 12:33:56 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 25, 2014, 01:05:53 pm
UN is blue.
Believers are yellow.
Morgan is orange.
Spartans are black.
University is purple.
Gaians are green.
Hive doesn't seem to exist.
I'm pretty sure these are all their normal colours though.
Post by: Patchy on March 25, 2014, 08:47:18 pm
I am just glad this map doesn't reveal any of my important cities. Haha, I can still strike from the shadows! Not that I'm planning to strike anyone, of course.
UN is blue.
Believers are yellow.
Morgan is orange.
Spartans are black.
University is purple.
Gaians are green.
Hive doesn't seem to exist.
I'm pretty sure these are all their normal colours though.
That helps a lot, and seems the believers are bible thumping Planet pretty well.
As for the colours, well a couple of them are mixed up, must've been a multiplayer thing. But that doesnt matter much, and isn't too hard to look up their defaults if it really matters to someone.
Post by: Karlito on March 25, 2014, 08:56:39 pm
As for the colours, well a couple of them are mixed up, must've been a multiplayer thing.
I think colors were assigned by player order and not faction, or something like that.
Post by: MarcAFK on March 26, 2014, 08:10:43 am
UN:purple
Believers:orange
Morgan:yellow
Spartans:black
University: uh I don't remember, probably red
Gaians:green
And Hive: blue
Post by: Twiggie on March 26, 2014, 01:58:28 pm
we switched the order around to give us more turns/day, and it turns out the colours are based on order, not faction.
Post by: PTTG?? on March 28, 2014, 12:42:28 pm
Post by: Made of Time on March 30, 2014, 11:09:45 pm
Post by: mastahcheese on March 30, 2014, 11:15:41 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on March 31, 2014, 03:34:41 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 31, 2014, 03:41:39 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on April 01, 2014, 11:07:50 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on April 01, 2014, 12:20:31 pm
Post by: Twiggie on April 01, 2014, 01:06:23 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on April 01, 2014, 01:19:58 pm
EDIT: As far as I know, Yun is still playing. He was in a few turns ago... It's the Gaians who swapped.
Post by: Un67 on April 01, 2014, 07:11:32 pm
Post by: Twiggie on April 02, 2014, 02:18:02 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on April 07, 2014, 08:06:21 am
Post by: Made of Time on April 07, 2014, 09:27:27 am
Post by: Twiggie on April 07, 2014, 01:04:36 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on April 18, 2014, 06:41:19 pm
Still waiting on 2102
Post by: PTTG?? on April 18, 2014, 06:47:24 pm
And it's off.
Post by: GlyphGryph on April 18, 2014, 09:03:31 pm
Post by: Twiggie on April 24, 2014, 12:51:15 pm
An explanation is here (http://www.civgaming.net/smac/acad_elimination.shtml) - I'm going to require you to self-destruct the unit in your last city to take yourself out of the game on the next turn. Please don't take any other actions on that turn, of course.
I'll write up a suitably self-aggrandising post about the war, if that's any consolation for being knocked out.
Post by: GlyphGryph on April 24, 2014, 06:52:01 pm
Post by: PTTG?? on May 15, 2014, 05:09:03 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 26, 2014, 09:52:45 pm
Post by: Twiggie on May 27, 2014, 12:42:53 pm
Better check its not waiting on me :p
Post by: Twiggie on May 28, 2014, 02:18:48 pm
Morgan stands at the microphone, an imposing figure in his immaculate suit. Behind him, scenes of gargantuan explosions and torn metal sinking into the sea play on a gigantic 3DVisionTM screen.
The roar of applause fills the building, rising to a crescendo as the recording fades out to show the Morgan ternion. Morgan steps forward.
Good afternoon. What you see behind me has been the first real action in the war declared by the Imperialist Believers.
They seek to take our land. They seek to take our wealth. They seek to take our Freedom from us! But WE WILL BROOK NO AGGRESSION!
- a fire flashes in his eyes -
These filthy 'Believers' would have us bend and kneel before them! They would have us cast out of our homes and into the dirt!
But our troops are seasoned. And they are clearly more than a match for these fools. Perhaps they thought their god would help them! Pah! I say we will make them pay. Pay for their threat on our sovereignty.
Let this be a message to those nations who would retain their own freedom. Sister Miriam is weak and ripe for invasion. Any Nation taking Believer cities will be rewarded! Though they may breed like rabbits, they are no match for a modern military!
We will have justice!
- Morgan turns and strides away -
Post by: Twiggie on May 28, 2014, 02:20:11 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 28, 2014, 03:40:25 pm
"Sister."
"Make your report, Brother."
"The Storm still disrupts our communication. Reports indicate the carriers full of eager colonists and their defenders were destroyed by advanced weaponry - it wasn't mindworm attacks, Sister Kiera, not this time."
"How many were lost?"
"2 defensive cruisers, both transports, three-"
"Don't bore me with the details of hardware, Brother. How many people did we lose?"
"We're guessing that at least 10,000 lives were lost, Sister."
"And do we know who did it?"
"They appear to have brought down one of the attackers before they were destroyed, Sister. It is... as you feared. An unprovoked attack by the madmen that serve the tyrant Twiggie."
"For him, I am guessing this was a mere economic calculation - that unclaimed land is clearly something he sees profit in, and what cost is it to him when the price to hold it is paid in Believer lives? But this unprovoked aggression cannot go unanswered. When we lost contact with our men exploring the jungle, I was willing to give him the benefit of a doubt. Perhaps it was truly just the wildlife? But no - there are no more excuses for this behaviour.
From this point forward, we are at war. We are at war with an aggressive, unscrupulous, unstable individual. We will liberate his people, and free them from the shackles of bondage - we will free them from their slavery to Twiggie's greed, to his corporate slave-drivers. We will liberate them, and in the process we will insure our own security from this vicious madman.
Let the bell's ring, and spread the word among our flock. The devil has made his move, and we must act."
Post by: Twiggie on May 28, 2014, 04:55:25 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 28, 2014, 07:09:28 pm
How dare you try to turn this around and declare it, somehow, aggression on my part.
Post by: Twiggie on May 29, 2014, 02:48:23 am
I daresay anything else would be the actions of a madman, fit to rule nothing but their own padded cell.
And do not speak to me of lack of aggression when you send units equipped with nerve gas to my borders. Your despicable actions will be the death of you.
Post by: GlyphGryph on June 01, 2014, 10:00:28 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/HLYLfrC.gif)
Post by: GlyphGryph on June 04, 2014, 02:19:37 pm
Post by: Made of Time on June 06, 2014, 07:45:08 am
Post by: Twiggie on June 18, 2014, 02:27:09 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on June 18, 2014, 08:32:58 am
Post by: Twiggie on July 01, 2014, 03:46:16 am
Don't think I saw anything in my inbox...
Post by: GlyphGryph on July 01, 2014, 08:11:53 am
Post by: PTTG?? on July 01, 2014, 10:35:01 am
Post by: Made of Time on July 01, 2014, 09:41:57 pm
Post by: Karlito on July 01, 2014, 09:44:33 pm
Does that mean we're now stuck on karlito?
Whooooooooooooooooooooooops.
Post by: MarcAFK on July 16, 2014, 03:36:43 am
Also, Necro! How's the turn going Karlito?
Post by: GlyphGryph on July 16, 2014, 02:43:23 pm
I'll send it out today.
Post by: Twiggie on August 01, 2014, 01:49:46 pm