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Title: A vampire that everyone KNOWS is a vampire won't admit it!
Post by: YvAd on August 03, 2014, 10:56:34 pm
I asked a villager for directions to the vampire human val shovelface or whatever. When i walk to mr. shovelface, he says that he is NOT a vampire... what's going on here?
Title: Re: A vampire that everyone KNOWS is a vampire won't admit it!
Post by: random_odd_guy on August 03, 2014, 11:26:48 pm
sometimes people have the same first name
Title: Re: A vampire that everyone KNOWS is a vampire won't admit it!
Post by: YvAd on August 03, 2014, 11:50:54 pm
No, it's the same first and last name, and at the right village. Oddly, after i confronted him and he denied it, now no one thinks he's a vampire- when i ask for directions, he just shows up as a human.
Title: Re: A vampire that everyone KNOWS is a vampire won't admit it!
Post by: Arcvasti on August 03, 2014, 11:58:39 pm
In the newest version, vampires deny being vampires. Try face-stabbing instead.
Title: Re: A vampire that everyone KNOWS is a vampire won't admit it!
Post by: lue on August 04, 2014, 12:10:08 am
That's weird. So far I've been able to successfully accuse every hidden night creature I come across, same as before.
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Post by: Wilfred of Ivanhoe on August 04, 2014, 01:42:10 am
It probably has something to do with NPCs being able to tell lies since 0.40.01
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Post by: klefenz on August 04, 2014, 02:16:00 am
To be sure check if shovelface is wearing human hair rings or such.
Title: Re: A vampire that everyone KNOWS is a vampire won't admit it!
Post by: Dunamisdeos on August 05, 2014, 12:34:18 am
Stab it first, and then check the loot for human hair bracelets and such.
Title: Re: A vampire that everyone KNOWS is a vampire won't admit it!
Post by: Rumrusher on August 05, 2014, 03:59:51 am
shovelfist might be a an pregen retired adventurer with loads of bling from his adventures.
better check is to see if he has gray or white hair since vampires while immortal still show signs of aging.
Title: Re: A vampire that everyone KNOWS is a vampire won't admit it!
Post by: MonkeyHead on August 05, 2014, 04:08:45 am
Shovelfist, legendary liar, able to change reality via sheer force of will.
Title: Re: A vampire that everyone KNOWS is a vampire won't admit it!
Post by: Dunamisdeos on August 05, 2014, 05:17:00 pm
Shovelfist, legendary liar, able to change reality via sheer force of will.

Stab Mr. Shovelfistface! See if He can lie his way out of a gut wound. Edged violence is the key to all mysteries in the fanciful land of Dwarf Fortress.
Title: Re: A vampire that everyone KNOWS is a vampire won't admit it!
Post by: AutoBahn on August 05, 2014, 06:45:35 pm
I have a similar problem where I'll accuse vampires of being night creatures, and, upon doing so, they will boast about who they've killed or say a comment on the weather instead of confirming my suspicion and entering combat.
Title: Re: A vampire that everyone KNOWS is a vampire won't admit it!
Post by: Tawa on August 05, 2014, 10:15:18 pm
I have a similar problem where I'll accuse vampires of being night creatures, and, upon doing so, they will boast about who they've killed or say a comment on the weather instead of confirming my suspicion and entering combat.
Kasp Swordbeer, prospective vampire slayer: "I am Kasp Swordbeer, and I shall slay you where you stand, you night-prowling beast of shadow!"

Kol Drunkenpregnancies, vampire: "Nice weather we're having."
Title: Re: A vampire that everyone KNOWS is a vampire won't admit it!
Post by: klefenz on August 06, 2014, 11:17:39 am
I have a similar problem where I'll accuse vampires of being night creatures, and, upon doing so, they will boast about who they've killed or say a comment on the weather instead of confirming my suspicion and entering combat.
Kasp Swordbeer, prospective vampire slayer: "I am Kasp Swordbeer, and I shall slay you where you stand, you night-prowling beast of shadow!"

Kol Drunkenpregnancies, vampire: "Nice weather we're having."

Kek, they just keep changing subject. Remember when some night troll denied being a creature of the night?

Vapires need another detection way, like showing a croos/holy symbol to see if they get scared or looking at their teeth.
Title: Re: A vampire that everyone KNOWS is a vampire won't admit it!
Post by: Dunamisdeos on August 06, 2014, 12:45:40 pm
I have a similar problem where I'll accuse vampires of being night creatures, and, upon doing so, they will boast about who they've killed or say a comment on the weather instead of confirming my suspicion and entering combat.
Kasp Swordbeer, prospective vampire slayer: "I am Kasp Swordbeer, and I shall slay you where you stand, you night-prowling beast of shadow!"

Kol Drunkenpregnancies, vampire: "Nice weather we're having."

Kek, they just keep changing subject. Remember when some night troll denied being a creature of the night?

Vapires need another detection way, like showing a croos/holy symbol to see if they get scared or looking at their teeth.

I have an idea. Let's stab it. Eh? Ehh??
Title: Re: A vampire that everyone KNOWS is a vampire won't admit it!
Post by: cephalo on August 06, 2014, 01:19:56 pm
You know who else has trouble facing up to the truth? Were-creatures. I've been finding naked people living alone in caves, and when I accuse them, they try to act like I'm the bad guy! They're super easy to kill in their human form. Maybe I am the bad guy?
Title: Re: A vampire that everyone KNOWS is a vampire won't admit it!
Post by: Monsterfurby on August 06, 2014, 01:52:26 pm
I have a similar problem where I'll accuse vampires of being night creatures, and, upon doing so, they will boast about who they've killed or say a comment on the weather instead of confirming my suspicion and entering combat.
Kasp Swordbeer, prospective vampire slayer: "I am Kasp Swordbeer, and I shall slay you where you stand, you night-prowling beast of shadow!"

Kol Drunkenpregnancies, vampire: "Nice weather we're having."

If he says so at night, when no sunlight can reach him - that's practically a confession. Stabbity stab stab!
Title: Re: A vampire that everyone KNOWS is a vampire won't admit it!
Post by: Dunamisdeos on August 06, 2014, 04:19:13 pm
I have a similar problem where I'll accuse vampires of being night creatures, and, upon doing so, they will boast about who they've killed or say a comment on the weather instead of confirming my suspicion and entering combat.
Kasp Swordbeer, prospective vampire slayer: "I am Kasp Swordbeer, and I shall slay you where you stand, you night-prowling beast of shadow!"

Kol Drunkenpregnancies, vampire: "Nice weather we're having."

If he says so at night, when no sunlight can reach him - that's practically a confession. Stabbity stab stab!

I agree with your reasoning, and with your solution.
Title: Re: A vampire that everyone KNOWS is a vampire won't admit it!
Post by: draeath on August 26, 2014, 12:24:49 pm
It was probably heard by others when he denied it. This "knowledge" travels.
Title: Re: A vampire that everyone KNOWS is a vampire won't admit it!
Post by: Rumrusher on August 26, 2014, 04:01:50 pm
I have a similar problem where I'll accuse vampires of being night creatures, and, upon doing so, they will boast about who they've killed or say a comment on the weather instead of confirming my suspicion and entering combat.
Kasp Swordbeer, prospective vampire slayer: "I am Kasp Swordbeer, and I shall slay you where you stand, you night-prowling beast of shadow!"

Kol Drunkenpregnancies, vampire: "Nice weather we're having."

Kek, they just keep changing subject. Remember when some night troll denied being a creature of the night?

Vapires need another detection way, like showing a croos/holy symbol to see if they get scared or looking at their teeth.
well the thing with night creatures is that they don't really answer back to that question, it's really just a weirdly spelled out form of "are you a vampire?" so yes the night troll isn't a Vampire.
then again you could just catch them in the act which is a possibility though pretty much a quest of it's own.