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Title: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Max White on April 18, 2010, 08:28:12 pm
So I was thinking...And thats never a good sign!
What if we were to have a dwarf fully equip in fire proof items, such as fire imp leather, then give him a wooden training sword, and then somehow light the sword on fire.

Could we, in theory, have a dwarf fighting with a flaming sword that lights others on fire but NOT himself?
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: darkrider2 on April 18, 2010, 08:30:17 pm
No, because a dwarf isn't smart enough to keep the !!firesword!! away from his beard.
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Max White on April 18, 2010, 08:32:18 pm
He doesn't need the beard! BURN IT OFF!

In the name of DWAVEN SCIENCE!
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: FreakyCheeseMan on April 18, 2010, 08:35:27 pm
Quote from: Max White on April 18, 2010, 08:32:18 pm
He doesn't need the beard! BURN IT OFF!

In the name of DWAVEN SCIENCE!

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Max, there are limits to what we do here. Even in the name of dwarven science.
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Max White on April 18, 2010, 08:47:00 pm
Oh come on, women, humans and clowns seem to get along without them.
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Rumrusher on April 18, 2010, 08:48:17 pm
why not use the flames of a [insert custom creature here, maybe a forgotten beast] and make a flame sword from a reaction of the material.
still I don't know wrapping the sword in fire imp leather would protect the wielder but it will cause fire damage though.
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Coidzure Dreams on April 18, 2010, 08:49:22 pm
It's just... I think it's too dark a thought to contemplate, even for Armok. @_@
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Max White on April 18, 2010, 08:52:07 pm
Think of it this way.
You remember you last time you killed hundreds of dwarfs for science?



The beards were the first to burn, and they lived a good 30 seconds each before buring themselves without a beard. Times that by the 100 dwarfs, and that's 50 minutes worth of life that the dwarfs were without beards. About 49 minutes longer then the flaming sword dwarf will live.
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Flying Carcass on April 18, 2010, 09:10:09 pm
You could just have the flaming sword dwarf be a female dwarf and bypass the beard issue entirely.
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Max White on April 18, 2010, 09:11:04 pm
Yes but then the three children hanging off her will catch fire.
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Blackburn on April 18, 2010, 09:19:50 pm
Quote from: Max White on April 18, 2010, 09:11:04 pm
Yes but then the three children hanging off her will catch fire.
And that's stopped people before...?
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Coidzure Dreams on April 18, 2010, 09:26:57 pm
Quote from: Blackburn on April 18, 2010, 09:19:50 pm
Quote from: Max White on April 18, 2010, 09:11:04 pm
Yes but then the three children hanging off her will catch fire.
And that's stopped people before...?

Merely more blood for the blood god.  Also, avoids the issue of beardicide.
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Jacob/Lee on April 18, 2010, 09:29:49 pm
Quote from: Max White on April 18, 2010, 08:47:00 pm
Oh come on, women, humans and clowns seem to get along without them.
Dwarven women have beards.
Humans aren't manly anyway.
Clowns, well, they deserve beards but I don't think blobs of ashes can grow a beard.
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Max White on April 18, 2010, 09:30:07 pm
Quote from: Blackburn on April 18, 2010, 09:19:50 pm
Quote from: Max White on April 18, 2010, 09:11:04 pm
Yes but then the three children hanging off her will catch fire.
And that's stopped people before...?

Oh I don't care about the children, but the parent will freak out and stop trying to kill things, and things not getting killed makes me sad.
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Torchy on April 18, 2010, 09:34:38 pm
Quote from: Jacob/Lee on April 18, 2010, 09:29:49 pm
Quote from: Max White on April 18, 2010, 08:47:00 pm
Oh come on, women, humans and clowns seem to get along without them.
Dwarven women have beards.

Actually, they don't.
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Rorcayt on April 18, 2010, 09:43:29 pm
Ive purposely handed peasants training swords... and then lit them on fire to make them more effective at breaking the siege... IT WAS A MOST BEAUTIFUL TACTIC.
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Max White on April 18, 2010, 09:47:09 pm
Now if it was possible to survive...

Wait, can't we swim in lava now due to melting fat?
So THEREFOR were we to melt the fat off a dwarf, keep them happy enough to integrate back into the army, THEN give them flaming weapons, we could skip the fire proof materiel.
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Shiv on April 18, 2010, 10:04:11 pm
Can't we just get the sword wet then have it catch fire the same way of melting fat and 'acid rain'?

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Yes but then the three children hanging off her will catch fire.

I think they're protected via the 'boob flap'.
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Owlbread on April 18, 2010, 10:07:42 pm
Hang on, is fire imp leather completely fireproof? As in, the dwarf wearing it whilst standing in the middle of a raging forest fire will not be injured? This is amazing. Are you sure?
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Max White on April 18, 2010, 10:10:21 pm
Quote from: Owlbread on April 18, 2010, 10:07:42 pm
Hang on, is fire imp leather completely fireproof? As in, the dwarf wearing it whilst standing in the middle of a raging forest fire will not be injured? This is amazing. Are you sure?

Nope, not at all! But I know that modding a dwarf to have fire imp skin rather then normal skin makes him able to swim in lava...
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Owlbread on April 18, 2010, 10:14:39 pm
Quote from: Max White on April 18, 2010, 10:10:21 pm
Quote from: Owlbread on April 18, 2010, 10:07:42 pm
Hang on, is fire imp leather completely fireproof? As in, the dwarf wearing it whilst standing in the middle of a raging forest fire will not be injured? This is amazing. Are you sure?

Nope, not at all! But I know that modding a dwarf to have fire imp skin rather then normal skin makes him able to swim in lava...

I find this very dissapointing.
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Max White on April 18, 2010, 10:16:57 pm
I never said they wouldn't protect your dwarf, I just said I wasn't sure it was 100% fire proof, and they will live every time.

Fire proof clothing will certainly raise your dwarfs chances to live. I once managed to get a dwarf to haul burning coal by using dragon hide gloves...Dwarf didn't live, but he DID survive long enough to move the coal.
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Coidzure Dreams on April 18, 2010, 10:17:46 pm
Quote from: Shiv on April 18, 2010, 10:04:11 pm
Can't we just get the sword wet then have it catch fire the same way of melting fat and 'acid rain'?

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Yes but then the three children hanging off her will catch fire.

I think they're protected via the 'boob flap'.

Or, possibly, dorfs are marsupials and that's why they carry their babies at all times.

Quote from: Torchy on April 18, 2010, 09:34:38 pm
Quote from: Jacob/Lee on April 18, 2010, 09:29:49 pm
Quote from: Max White on April 18, 2010, 08:47:00 pm
Oh come on, women, humans and clowns seem to get along without them.
Dwarven women have beards.

Actually, they don't.

I'm quite sad about this.
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Max White on April 18, 2010, 10:21:41 pm
Quote from: Coidzure Dreams on April 18, 2010, 10:17:46 pm
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lots of stuff

I'm quite sad about this.

They can EASILY be modded to have beards, just go to your raws, find creatures_stranded, then hold Ctrl+F, paste in [CASTE:FEMALE] and press enter to find instructions on how to make females have beards.
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Owlbread on April 18, 2010, 10:26:05 pm
Quote from: Coidzure Dreams on April 18, 2010, 10:17:46 pm
Quote from: Shiv on April 18, 2010, 10:04:11 pm
Can't we just get the sword wet then have it catch fire the same way of melting fat and 'acid rain'?

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Yes but then the three children hanging off her will catch fire.

I think they're protected via the 'boob flap'.

Or, possibly, dorfs are marsupials and that's why they carry their babies at all times.

Quote from: Torchy on April 18, 2010, 09:34:38 pm
Quote from: Jacob/Lee on April 18, 2010, 09:29:49 pm
Quote from: Max White on April 18, 2010, 08:47:00 pm
Oh come on, women, humans and clowns seem to get along without them.
Dwarven women have beards.

Actually, they don't.

I'm quite sad about this.

I was also saddened by that development.
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Intelligent Shade of Blue on April 18, 2010, 11:34:29 pm
Gentledwarves, the solution is obvious: !!beards!!.
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Max White on April 18, 2010, 11:41:01 pm
Note to self: Mod dwarfs to attack with beards.
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: DarthCloakedDwarf on April 18, 2010, 11:44:37 pm
Quote from: Torchy on April 18, 2010, 09:34:38 pm
Quote from: Jacob/Lee on April 18, 2010, 09:29:49 pm
Quote from: Max White on April 18, 2010, 08:47:00 pm
Oh come on, women, humans and clowns seem to get along without them.
Dwarven women have beards.
Actually, they don't.
So sayeth He Who Is Toad.
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Frumple on April 19, 2010, 02:22:24 am
I'm now terribly curious as to what would happen if you slap the flame template onto dwarven beard hair. Will try it after a nap.

Tentative hypothesis: Hilarity and alcohol explosions.

Hrm... a beard of fire and booze-blood. This bears testing...
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Max White on April 19, 2010, 03:28:54 am
Quote from: Frumple on April 19, 2010, 02:22:24 am
I'm now terribly curious as to what would happen if you slap the flame template onto dwarven beard hair. Will try it after a nap.

Tentative hypothesis: Hilarity and alcohol explosions.

Hrm... a beard of fire and booze-blood. This bears testing...

Armok himself would envy such a dwarf!
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: tastypaste on April 19, 2010, 04:28:34 am
A flaming sword sounds like a good idea until you realize what would happen when he walked into the alcohol stockpile.
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Max White on April 19, 2010, 05:24:01 am
Then is sounds like AN AWESOME IDEA!!!
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Nexii Malthus on April 19, 2010, 05:31:50 am
Quote from: Jacob/Lee on April 18, 2010, 09:29:49 pm
Dwarven women have beards.
Haha. No.
Spoiler: creature_standard.txt (click to show/hide)
The deactivated tag has been preserved for those that do prefer their women with beards. So you can mod it in if you want to.


I think Toady has made mentions about flaming swords previously, somewhere, pretty sure. Was it on DF Talk?
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Max White on April 19, 2010, 05:34:22 am
Everybody else here watched meet the Spartans? Oh good, then sing it with me.

Mr. war mongering latent homosexual!
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Blackburn on April 19, 2010, 04:46:24 pm
Quote from: Max White on April 19, 2010, 05:34:22 am
Everybody else here watched meet the Spartans? Oh good, then sing it with me.

Mr. war mongering latent homosexual!
I think anyone who watched that movie wants to suppress any memory of it.
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Coidzure Dreams on April 19, 2010, 05:26:22 pm
Movie?  There's no movie by that name.
Title: Re: Possible flaming swords?
Post by: Max White on April 19, 2010, 07:20:09 pm
 8)And the infection continues...