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Dwarf Fortress => DF Dwarf Mode Discussion => Topic started by: Bryan Derksen on November 07, 2009, 10:58:04 pm

Title: The werewolf Buruzemkom and the werewolf Atoosmoz have married. Congratulations!
Post by: Bryan Derksen on November 07, 2009, 10:58:04 pm
That was unexpected. :)

As I mentioned over in the "goblin POW" thread a few days back, I had captured a couple of werewolves at one point and decided not to waste them so I threw in the "pet" tag to make them tameable. One thing led to another and now I've got 60+ tame werewolves and werewolf pups in my fort, and they've almost all got names because I capture goblin sieges and feed them to the pack. I noticed that the werewolves were slowly gaining social skills, too, which was fine by me (some of them are now "superwerewolfly tough" and are skilled consolers, comedians, etc.). I've made a bunch available for pets but so far no dwarves have claimed one.

Well, I just got the announcement in the subject header (the two lovebirds have decided to forego any formal celebrations) and I'm starting to realize what a weird situation I've got into with this fort. What happens now if one of those two gets claimed as a pet? What about all the breeding these guys have been doing so far, out of wedlock? I can't view the relationships screen for werewolves so I don't know if these two are bringing in any pups from previous matings to their new family. Maybe I'll copy the save and abandon to see if I can find them in the legends.

I look forward to this stuff getting even more confused and disturbing when it's possible for dwarves to become werewolves themselves. :)
Title: Re: The werewolf Buruzemkom and the werewolf Atoosmoz have married. Congratulations!
Post by: Count Dorku on November 07, 2009, 11:04:18 pm
"If life hands you lemons, program in lemonade".
Title: Re: The werewolf Buruzemkom and the werewolf Atoosmoz have married. Congratulations!
Post by: Haedrian on November 08, 2009, 01:48:20 am
More importantly - does the meat taste good?
Title: Re: The werewolf Buruzemkom and the werewolf Atoosmoz have married. Congratulations!
Post by: Aspgren on November 08, 2009, 06:16:30 am
Quote from: Haedrian on November 08, 2009, 01:48:20 am
More importantly - does the meat taste good?

That's a tricky question. One that might be best left unanswered ... since werewolves are something ELSE that take werewolf form - and upon dying they return to their original form. They'd taste .. dwarf, elf, human, kobold, goblin, orc ... who knows? What if the werewolf female is really an elf, and the male is really a dwarf? That would mean their pups would be some kind of dwarven/elven wolf contraption, as they were bred in wolf form.  ???

Of course this isn't in the game but ... it would be barrels of fun if werewolves reacted this way!  ;D
Title: Re: The werewolf Buruzemkom and the werewolf Atoosmoz have married. Congratulati
Post by: Overspeculated on November 08, 2009, 10:55:39 am
I now want werewolves on my map.
Adding in the pet_exotic tag and hoping that some elves will bring them!
Title: Re: The werewolf Buruzemkom and the werewolf Atoosmoz have married. Congratulations!
Post by: Bryan Derksen on November 08, 2009, 12:30:21 pm
Had a look in legends and neither of them have had any pups before entering into the relationship. They became romantically entangled about a year prior to getting married, which suggests to me that they have the full suite of  interpersonal relationships that dwarves do going on under the hood. I've noticed that there haven't been any werewolf births at all in recent years, I wonder if now that they're getting married to each other the game has "realized" that they shouldn't be breeding willy-nilly like animals any more.

I also found that one of my werewolves had apparently given birth to herself some years previous. She's listed as her own mother and it's not just a coincidental duplication of names, her mother has the same birthdate she does. My dwarves must have been rather creeped out when that happened.
Title: Re: The werewolf Buruzemkom and the werewolf Atoosmoz have married. Congratulations!
Post by: Grendus on November 08, 2009, 01:06:06 pm
Weird. I never got a marriage message when my dwarves get married. Turns out my mayor married my metalcrafter, I didn't find out until she gave birth to their first daughter. Sure enough, I checked the relationship tab and they're married.
Title: Re: The werewolf Buruzemkom and the werewolf Atoosmoz have married. Congratulations!
Post by: Aspgren on November 08, 2009, 01:12:34 pm
Quote from: Grendus on November 08, 2009, 01:06:06 pm
Weird. I never got a marriage message when my dwarves get married. Turns out my mayor married my metalcrafter, I didn't find out until she gave birth to their first daughter. Sure enough, I checked the relationship tab and they're married.

Yeah you did. They always come, they're green. They're incredibly easy to miss amidst all the "stray horse gave birth to foals" crap.
Title: Re: The werewolf Buruzemkom and the werewolf Atoosmoz have married. Congratulati
Post by: AtomicPaperclip on November 08, 2009, 02:15:15 pm
Quote from: Overspeculated on November 08, 2009, 10:55:39 am
I now want werewolves on my map.
Adding in the pet_exotic tag and hoping that some elves will bring them!

No, you don't. *rocks back and forth*
Title: Re: The werewolf Buruzemkom and the werewolf Atoosmoz have married. Congratulati
Post by: Overspeculated on November 08, 2009, 03:35:32 pm
Quote from: Bryan Derksen on November 08, 2009, 12:30:21 pm
I also found that one of my werewolves had apparently given birth to herself some years previous. She's listed as her own mother and it's not just a coincidental duplication of names, her mother has the same birthdate she does. My dwarves must have been rather creeped out when that happened.
This is a masterfully designed image of a werewolf and a dwarf by Urist Engraver, the werewolf is giving birth to itself, the dwarf is screaming in terror.
Title: Re: The werewolf Buruzemkom and the werewolf Atoosmoz have married. Congratulati
Post by: Hortun on November 08, 2009, 04:18:38 pm
Quote from: Overspeculated on November 08, 2009, 03:35:32 pm
Quote from: Bryan Derksen on November 08, 2009, 12:30:21 pm
I also found that one of my werewolves had apparently given birth to herself some years previous. She's listed as her own mother and it's not just a coincidental duplication of names, her mother has the same birthdate she does. My dwarves must have been rather creeped out when that happened.
This is a masterfully designed image of a werewolf and a dwarf by Urist Engraver, the werewolf is giving birth to itself, the dwarf is screaming in terror.
It menaces with spikes of incest and is adorned with rings of paradox.
Title: Re: The werewolf Buruzemkom and the werewolf Atoosmoz have married. Congratulati
Post by: winner on November 08, 2009, 04:25:09 pm
you might want to send the save to toady that sounds like an interesting bug.
Title: Re: The werewolf Buruzemkom and the werewolf Atoosmoz have married. Congratulations!
Post by: slink on November 08, 2009, 05:21:31 pm
Well if the werewolves were being generated by infection from other werewolves, that would make sense.  The original creature in a sense does give birth to the werewolf, or at least the internal identity changes.  But that isn't how it works in DF, is it?
Title: Re: The werewolf Buruzemkom and the werewolf Atoosmoz have married. Congratulations!
Post by: Funk on November 08, 2009, 05:51:24 pm
have you hit the max number for the map?maybe that is way thay stoped haveing kids.
Title: Re: The werewolf Buruzemkom and the werewolf Atoosmoz have married. Congratulati
Post by: Hoborobo234 on November 08, 2009, 06:01:32 pm
I say pics or it didnt happen
Title: Re: The werewolf Buruzemkom and the werewolf Atoosmoz have married. Congratulati
Post by: Overspeculated on November 08, 2009, 07:22:13 pm
Quote from: slink on November 08, 2009, 05:21:31 pm
But that isn't how it works in DF, is it?
Indeed, that isn't how it happens. There are no mechanics for lycanthropy in DF. Meanwhile, there are undead, although I don't think that skeletal hoary marmot ever was a living, breathing, hoary marmot, so there is no turning-undead mechanic either.
Title: Re: The werewolf Buruzemkom and the werewolf Atoosmoz have married. Congratulations!
Post by: Grendus on November 08, 2009, 10:13:24 pm
Metamorphosis and disease haven't been implemented yet. When they are, I'm sure you'll be sieged by were-gobs and undead hoards to your hears content.
Title: Re: The werewolf Buruzemkom and the werewolf Atoosmoz have married. Congratulations!
Post by: zchris13 on November 08, 2009, 10:38:52 pm
Yeah. That's a bug. Or at least part of it is. I don't know what part though.
Title: Re: The werewolf Buruzemkom and the werewolf Atoosmoz have married. Congratulati
Post by: Bryan Derksen on November 09, 2009, 12:57:22 am
Quote from: Hoborobo234 on November 08, 2009, 06:01:32 pm
I say pics or it didnt happen

The two lovebirds:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The werewolf who gave birth to herself:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The werewolf Buruzemkom and the werewolf Atoosmoz have married. Congratulations!
Post by: Neyvn on November 09, 2009, 08:07:10 am
Are they the only Married Were's on the map.
It could be something fun like they are the Alpha Wolf and Pack Mother.
Most likely not, but hey if it will create stories...