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Title: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Twi on February 25, 2012, 05:00:46 pm
A deranged madmangame the likes of which are few and far between!
...Except on Bay 12, that is.  ;)

This game can be thought of as working backwards from science. Instead of discovering the way the world works, you're setting it out, and making up particles and physicals and interactions and things along those lines. I may throw in some pictures in MSPaint at some point, just cuz.

As you create your hypothetical universe's building blocks, you get to see what happens with your universe. Stars? Planets? Life? Space mushrooms? Sentient interstellar medium? Something else entirely? Who knows?

Anyways, feel free to suggest anything, anything whatsoever. Keep in mind, of course, that new particles/laws/interactions take effect instantly: you don't get to put them in all at once. Unless you post them all at once, of course, but I somehow doubt that happening.  :P Also, let's not just having boring atoms and quarks and other real objects. Strange and unusual makes for more !!FUN!!
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Notes: The universe is a torus!

Empty space is occupied by Ether, a massless, sentient particle. They tend to be quite hot.

Hot and cold are defined by Fridgonic particles. The more of these in something, the colder it is. Fridigonic is the opposite of energy.

The basic unit of normal matter is the lutefisk, a manifestation of energy. Lutefisk particles can bond with each other to form various phlegm elements. Bonds come from additional energy.

Basic Phlegm elements include single lutefisk (?), double(?), triangular (3, ?) double-triangle, 4a (four in a rhombus with a single bond across the center, phlogistion) and 3-polymer, 3a (?)

Elan is a single lutefisk particle. Two Elans combine to form element 2, taking in Fridgonic in the process and repelling the Ether.

Phlogistion is a double-triangle arrangement of lutefisk. Phlogistion contains large amounts of energy in its bonds.

Quantum Particles. These might or might not exist. An area with a high concentration of particles will suffer from uncertainty, ie everyone/everything inside will disappear(and reappear elsewhere) once told or given their name(As soon as they are told their name they forget were they are supposed to be). Quantum particles tend to concentrate around boxes and cats.

Strange particle : This particle is an enigma. It stops when observed (but not seen), measured, quantified or in any way objected to anything minutely related to the scientific method. Its properties are of little significance.
Title: Re: You are physics! A suggestion game.
Post by: Armok on February 25, 2012, 05:20:49 pm
Instead of particles in an empty space, lets have cells fixed in/making up space, like a cellular automata. This can still be made to behave like normal physics but is needed because...

...2d time, instead of s[t]=f(s[t-1]) we have s[t1, t2]=f(s[t1-1, t2], s[t1, t2-1])

Oh, and lets make space strongly hyperbolic.
Title: Re: You are physics! A suggestion game.
Post by: Twi on February 25, 2012, 05:22:37 pm
Quote from: Armok on February 25, 2012, 05:20:49 pm
...2d time, instead of s[t]=f(s[t-1]) we have s[t1, t2]=f(s[t1-1, t2], s[t1, t2-1])
First off, I've attracted the great Armok to my thread. Rejoice?
Second, more importantly, clarify: What exactly would this mean?
Title: Re: You are physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Xeron on February 25, 2012, 05:26:09 pm
Make the planet gravity less.The space is filled with gravity instead of void.Also reverse all temperature scales.Its hotter in the extremes of a planet than at the center now.
Title: Re: You are physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Twi on February 25, 2012, 05:27:29 pm
Quote from: Xeron on February 25, 2012, 05:26:09 pm
Make the planet gravity less.The space is filled with gravity instead of void.Also reverse all temperature scales.Its hotter in the extremes of a planet than at the center now.
You cannot reverse ye planet, you must first create the universe! :P

(See also: Waiting on Armok to tell me what 2-d time would imply.)
Title: Re: You are physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: TCM on February 25, 2012, 05:57:45 pm
If E=Everything, than have E=1, and have 1=2.

Because Fuck Stability.
Title: Re: You are physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Nirur Torir on February 25, 2012, 06:18:39 pm
The Universe should be approximately as large as ours is. It should be hyper-toroid shaped and wrap around in any (standard*) direction, such that firing a beam weapon of infinite speed, range, and power in any direction would result in hitting oneself, discounting forces able to distort the beam.

*Not time. Toroidal time can't possibly be healthy.
Title: Re: You are physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Twi on February 25, 2012, 06:28:27 pm
Doughnut-shaped universe is go!

(http://tnypic.net/images/cabc9.gif) (http://tnypic.net/)

(Note to self, use something other than .gif)

This universe is currently empty. Void. Perhaps infinite. Who knows?
Title: Re: You are physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: obolisk0430 on February 25, 2012, 06:34:40 pm
Use the Ether and Fridgonic particles.
Title: Re: You are physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Twi on February 25, 2012, 06:38:55 pm
Ether and Fridgonic have been added to the directory.
However, as their properties have not been defined, they remain absent from the universe.
Title: Re: You are physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: obolisk0430 on February 25, 2012, 06:41:18 pm
The ether is, well, the ether.  It was a scientific theory that was disproved.  Fridgonic particles were a theory on how stuff gets cold.  The idea was that the more fridgonic particles something had, the colder and heavier it got.  It was also disproven.
Title: Re: You are physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Skyrunner on February 25, 2012, 06:44:19 pm
I think that the future organisms of this world should see by emitting particles from their eyes that bounce off things and return.
Title: Re: You are physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Twi on February 25, 2012, 06:48:32 pm
Quote from: obolisk0430 on February 25, 2012, 06:41:18 pm
The ether is, well, the ether.

Vacuum now contains Ether particles.
The other half is pointless until there are things.
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Title: Re: You are physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: obolisk0430 on February 25, 2012, 06:53:22 pm
Quote from: Twi on February 25, 2012, 06:48:32 pm
Quote from: obolisk0430 on February 25, 2012, 06:41:18 pm
The ether is, well, the ether.

Vacuum now contains Ether particles.
The other half is pointless until there are things.
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Not true, my good sir.  We must decide how stuff works before stuff can be created.
Title: Re: You are physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Twi on February 25, 2012, 06:54:23 pm
Quote from: obolisk0430 on February 25, 2012, 06:53:22 pm
Quote from: Twi on February 25, 2012, 06:48:32 pm
Quote from: obolisk0430 on February 25, 2012, 06:41:18 pm
The ether is, well, the ether.

Vacuum now contains Ether particles.
The other half is pointless until there are things.
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Not true, my good sir.  We must decide how stuff works before stuff can be created.
By creating stuff?
Title: Re: You are physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Skyrunner on February 25, 2012, 06:54:28 pm
((Okay, throwing out something that will be a problem in the future.))

Energy. It exists.
Mass, the visible effect energy has on the universe.
Energy casts a 'shadow' on reality that manifests as mass.

ENERGY IS MASS.

(No, it's not E=MC^2.)

(Or maybe it is. I don't understand that formula enough.)
Title: Re: You are physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Llamainaspitfire on February 25, 2012, 06:57:56 pm
Heat.
Description:Heat, Is hot, the opposite of cold, It burns if hot enough
Cold.
Description:Cold, Is the opposite of hot.
Title: Re: You are physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Twi on February 25, 2012, 06:59:48 pm
Quote from: Llamainaspitfire on February 25, 2012, 06:57:56 pm
Heat.
Description:Heat, Is hot, the opposite of cold, It burns if hot enough
Cold.
Description:Cold, Is the opposite of hot.
The Universe is now subject to heat.
Title: Re: You are physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Skyrunner on February 25, 2012, 07:00:53 pm
...No energy & mass? D:
Title: Re: You are physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Twi on February 25, 2012, 07:02:22 pm
Quote from: Skyrunner on February 25, 2012, 07:00:53 pm
...No energy & mass? D:
But what could we do with such things? :O
Title: Re: You are physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Skyrunner on February 25, 2012, 07:07:16 pm
What could we do with heat and cold? What could we do with heat and cold?


Energy and mass are the very requirements for things! >:-0 (mock rage)

Energy = heat. Therefore, mass = heat. Things that exist are hot, and the less of it that exists, it is cold.
Title: Re: You are physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Twi on February 25, 2012, 07:09:26 pm
Energy and mass in the manner you describe.

Besides, for those you need waves and/or particles/stuff :3
Title: Re: You are physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: obolisk0430 on February 25, 2012, 07:10:07 pm
Quote from: Skyrunner on February 25, 2012, 07:07:16 pm
What could we do with heat and cold? What could we do with heat and cold?


Energy and mass are the very requirements for things! >:-0 (mock rage)

Energy = heat. Therefore, mass = heat. Things that exist are hot, and the less of it that exists, it is cold.
No, you need to think out of the box.  Mass exists.  Heat and cold are defined by Fridgonic particles.
Title: Re: You are physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Skyrunner on February 25, 2012, 07:14:20 pm
Quote from: Twi on February 25, 2012, 06:48:32 pm
Quote from: obolisk0430 on February 25, 2012, 06:41:18 pm
The ether is, well, the ether.

Vacuum now contains Ether particles.
The other half is pointless until there are things.
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Quote from: obolisk0430 on February 25, 2012, 07:10:07 pm
Mass exists

I don't agree with that part :/


Also, I am thinking out of the box... in a way.

Restated: 'Energy' is something that is. It casts a shadow on the world that manifests as 'mass', which is a thing that is different from ether. It is substantial.
Also, energy equals heat. The more energy there is, the more mass there is, and therefore the more cold it is.
This is the basic property of mass. It is regulated by Fridgonic particles - a huge object of mass can actually be hot, because there are a large amount of Fridgonic particles in it.

((Also, the swapping of 'hot' and 'cold' is a bit confusing.))\\\




EDIT : I was confused -
Quote from: Skyrunner on February 25, 2012, 07:07:16 pm
What could we do with heat and cold? What could we do with heat and cold?
was supposed to be 'what can we do with mass & energy'. I got mislead by something else :/


EDIT 2 :
Quote
Also reverse all temperature scales.

Does that mean 'hot' == our current definition of 'cold', and vice versa? That's what I assumed.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Twi on February 25, 2012, 07:15:45 pm
By confusing you mean fun!

Also, do ether particles have mass, energy, or both? Or neither?
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Skyrunner on February 25, 2012, 07:20:20 pm
I'll say ether particles are something different from energy and its mass shadow. Ether particles have no mass. Therefore, they have no gravity, which is the pull of mass to each other, and by extension energy.

Their temperature is defined solely by their Fridgonic particle count, which is usually quite high. Meaning the ether is most of the time hot.

I also say we should implement the Celsius scale, so we can actually understand temperatures.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: micelus on February 25, 2012, 07:34:14 pm
In addition to the above, ether is sentient.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: raptorfangamer on February 25, 2012, 07:35:40 pm
create a new element
lutefisk
what does it do: the element of reality itself, all of the objects are made of (very) small compositions of lutefisk, according to how its arranged the pleghm (composition of lutefisk) arrange themselves into the objects you know, lutefisk is known by its fish-like form, but, what is a fish?
pleghm
what does it do: composes the various materials that exist, made out of lutefisk.

now...
randomly wave your finger while generating lutefisk, the composition of the first fives will compose the five basic elements, let it run on the universe and lets see what gets formed on it
Title: Re: You are physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on February 25, 2012, 07:36:16 pm
seed the universe with large blobs of liquid* phlogiston, an element which combust and facilitates the rapid heating (burning) of all other things in which it is imbued, in the presence of fridigonic particles.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Twi on February 25, 2012, 07:39:06 pm
Ether is massless! ...but sentient, despite it's inability to cause change.

The elementary particle Lutefisk has been created. Lutefisk can be combined into Pleghm, depending on it's arrangement.

Particles of Lutefisk have been generated and begin to clump together...
Quote from: Skyrunner on February 25, 2012, 07:20:20 pm


I also say we should implement the Celsius scale, so we can actually understand temperatures.

Error: Celsius requires water.
((Also, pic pending.))
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Llamainaspitfire on February 25, 2012, 07:42:20 pm
Quote from: Twi on February 25, 2012, 07:39:06 pm
Error: Celsius requires water.

And that would need Hydrogen and Oxygen.



Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Powder Miner on February 25, 2012, 07:44:02 pm
A new element:
Hergledsfkjghdslfghsdhdlhsd:
It warps space around it, causing a reverse-toroid (no I have no idea what that would be) for 1.111111111387856387698 meters radius around it. When two touch they create a massive line-explosion, an very very very powerful infinitely thin explosion that doesn't affect anything outside the line.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: obolisk0430 on February 25, 2012, 07:46:32 pm
Quote from: Powder Miner on February 25, 2012, 07:44:02 pm
A new element:
Hergledsfkjghdslfghsdhdlhsd:
It warps space around it, causing a reverse-toroid (no I have no idea what that would be) for 1.111111111387856387698 meters radius around it. When two touch they create a massive line-explosion, an very very very powerful infinitely thin explosion that doesn't affect anything outside the line.
No.  Just no.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Llamainaspitfire on February 25, 2012, 07:49:13 pm
Quote from: obolisk0430 on February 25, 2012, 07:46:32 pm
Quote from: Powder Miner on February 25, 2012, 07:44:02 pm
A new element:
Hergledsfkjghdslfghsdhdlhsd:
It warps space around it, causing a reverse-toroid (no I have no idea what that would be) for 1.111111111387856387698 meters radius around it. When two touch they create a massive line-explosion, an very very very powerful infinitely thin explosion that doesn't affect anything outside the line.
No.  Just no.
Yes.  Just Yes.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Twi on February 25, 2012, 07:50:12 pm
OVERFLOW ERROR!

Okay, but seriously, the first five Phlegm elements are incoming.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on February 25, 2012, 07:50:49 pm
fine. i'll change my suggestion. Phlogistion is a phlegm element, and combusts and facilitates the rapid heating (burning) of all other things in which it is imbued, in the presence of large concentrations of fridigonic particles. clump some of the lutefisk into blobs of phlogistion, and surround these blobs with fridigonic particles, such that they combust. call these blobs "stars".
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Skyrunner on February 25, 2012, 07:51:42 pm
OPPOSITION!

EDIT : I mean OBJECTION!

Quote
pleghm
what does it do: composes the various materials that exist, made out of lutefisk.

No, ENERGY composes the various materials that exist! D:<
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Twi on February 25, 2012, 07:54:54 pm
And Lutefisk is made of energy!
:P
As a personal suggestion, Fridigonic is actually anti-energy.

Anyways!

(http://tnypic.net/images/aa309.jpg) (http://tnypic.net/)

Have five types with no scale! Each red circle is a lutefisk particle. The one in the middle, with three particles and the dotted lines, is a polymer- ie, it can be repeated infinitely so long as it is in three-particle groups.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Skyrunner on February 25, 2012, 07:56:30 pm
I say that closed lutefisk structures represent a higher energy (and thus higher temperature) than opened structures. Apparently even the bonds (the black lines) have mass.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Twi on February 25, 2012, 07:57:46 pm
So, this is a world where high temperatures result in particles coming together. And cold breaks things down.

Bonds now have mass, as a manifestation of energy.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on February 25, 2012, 08:00:41 pm
phlogistion (see above) is composed of four particles of lutefisk.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Skyrunner on February 25, 2012, 08:01:31 pm
It's like this.

(http://www.ma.utexas.edu/users/gilbert/M408/LearnMod/Sphere.gif)

If the world is represented as a 2D plane, a lump of energy is that sphere. Mass is simply the circle on the plane.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Twi on February 25, 2012, 08:03:44 pm
Quote from: Skyrunner on February 25, 2012, 08:01:31 pm
It's like this.
-image

If the world is represented as a 2D plane, a lump of energy is that sphere. Mass is simply the circle on the plane.
Yeah, I know, it makes sense. =P

Anyways.

The double-triangle arrangement is now an unstable element, phlogistion.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Skyrunner on February 25, 2012, 08:07:33 pm
The single dot of lutefisk is called Elan. If two Elans bump into each other, they have a chance of bonding into the 2-dot structure and robbing the nearby Ether of its Fridgonic particles, becoming very cold and pushing the Ether away.

Yes, I'm aiming for suns.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Powder Miner on February 25, 2012, 08:08:31 pm
What about the Hergledsfkjghdslfghsdhdlhsd?
I gave more detail than some of the other elements suggested...
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on February 25, 2012, 08:09:06 pm
but suns are covered under how phlogiston acts.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Skyrunner on February 25, 2012, 08:11:10 pm
I'd say that Hergledsfkjghdslfghsdhdlhsd is a hyperdense mass of energy that, in the world-is-2-D analogy above, is a 4D shape. Therefore, it can suddenly warp the space, energy and other properties of the stuff around it and also destroys itself in the process.

@hubris

Phlogiston is an alternate method. :3
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Twi on February 25, 2012, 08:11:47 pm
So have two types of suns!

Elan exists!

Also, Herg is the equivalent of a singularity. :P
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Llamainaspitfire on February 25, 2012, 08:13:21 pm
FACP - Formation according to Condition, Is a particle that Forms according to condition, If cold, it turns into Particles that can make Ice or cold water, If hot, it turns into particles that can make lava, fire, etc,.
So, it's like a tree affect
If a few FACP particles collide under cold circumstances, Then they will split in half into particles that will lead to ice and water, and so on and so on.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Twi on February 25, 2012, 08:14:31 pm
Quote from: Llamainaspitfire on February 25, 2012, 08:13:21 pm
FACP - Formation according to Condition, Is a particle that Forms according to condition, If cold, it turns into Particles that can make Ice or cold water, If hot, it turns into particles that can make lava, fire, etc,.
So, it's like a tree affect
If a few FACP particles collide under cold circumstances, Then they will split in half into particles that will lead to ice and water, and so on and so on.

You must first invent those things.


On a more general note, blargh, this is going too fast.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Skyrunner on February 25, 2012, 08:14:47 pm
Ice? I do not know what this 'ice' you are talking about means. :3



@Twi

I kinda agree with that, we need more elementary physics to make more stuff.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Twi on February 25, 2012, 08:16:28 pm
Quote from: Skyrunner on February 25, 2012, 08:14:47 pm
@Twi

I kinda agree with that, we need more elementary physics to make more stuff.

IT would also help if I didn't suck at Paint. And could keep up. D:
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on February 25, 2012, 08:16:33 pm
i think that instead of hergled being a discrete element, it ought to be a compound of elements.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Skyrunner on February 25, 2012, 08:20:51 pm
Hergled is actually a manifestation of a 5D shape onto a 3D space.

So it turns out its not an element at all.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Powder Miner on February 25, 2012, 10:12:10 pm
Why would it have to be compound? Because it acts strangely? Acting strangely is a weird thing to discourage when we're making werid physics. Because it doesn't make anything? In real life, ununoctium isn't even naturally found at all, yet is an element.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Skyrunner on February 25, 2012, 10:13:19 pm
I'm kinda at a loss for what to make now.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 26, 2012, 03:43:38 am
Idea particles: These particles travel at the speed of light and can pass through most matter and anti-matter. When one strikes someones brain, that person gets a brilliant idea( Or not so brilliant idea, kinda depends on which particles you get)
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: kaian-a-coel on February 26, 2012, 05:47:18 am
how weird.
...
Therefore kinda cool :P

>Gravitropes: these particules are unidimensional "little ropes". Each extremity is attracted by massive particles, meaning each gravitrope will eventually "bond" two particles (if these have mass). They first attach to one particle, then tract it until the second extremity of the gravitrope find the nearest particle.
Also the attraction is proportionnal to the particles' mass and to the distance (and not the distance's square, note it)
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 26, 2012, 05:49:40 am
It's kinda almost litterally taken from the Discworld series though.

Anyway, any universe needs more discworld physics.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: micelus on February 26, 2012, 05:50:41 am
Mimiconictium. An element that mimics the attributes of other surrounding elements. The only way you can find out if its mimiconictium is if you surround it with ether and then have Herg happen nearby.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 26, 2012, 07:05:20 am
Another Discworld derivative.

Quantum Particles. These might or might not excist. An area with a high concentration of particles will suffer from uncertainity, ie everyone/everything inside will dissappear(and reappear elsewhere) once told or given their name(As soon as they are told their name they forget were they are supposed to be). Quantum particles tend to concentrate around boxes and cats.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Xeron on February 26, 2012, 07:35:50 am
Implode the universe several times ,awaiting for planets to form
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Twi on February 26, 2012, 09:07:13 am
Start blabbing! I'm going to be busy today, so you better start making/allowing cool things happening.   ;D

In the meantime, Quantum is in, despite the lack of boxes and cats.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Vorthon on February 26, 2012, 09:58:58 am
We need time particles. They should be called Chronobits. The more Chronobits in an area of space, the faster time flows.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: hachnslay on February 26, 2012, 10:43:36 am
Euclidium waves.
They congregate around matter and create euclidean 4D space (3 directions and time) they are also slightly attracted to itself, but will not increase in density.

This causes them to create Euclidean Space Spheres around matter. it is hard for matter to escape these spheres, as they tend to stretch into not sphere shapes while observed from the outside, but stay spherical when observed from the inside. This would be observed from the inside of the sphere as if the matter trying to escape the sphere was slowing down the nearer it got to the border.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: raptorfangamer on February 26, 2012, 11:10:40 am
have some elan particules babbling around and congregating

also, what lutefisk elements are still free?
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Twi on February 26, 2012, 11:17:04 am
Added-
Chronobits :3



As for mechanics: There are Elan stars and phlogiston stars. Ironically, both of them decay into element 2. 

Element 2, 3, and 3a (polymer) are still open.

I'm a bit busy, but I'll see about getting another picture in soon, maybe tomorrow.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on February 26, 2012, 11:22:12 am
new sub-elemental particle: Sauerkraut. Behaves in a similar way to lutefisk, and can combine with lutefisk for greater variation on elements.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: raptorfangamer on February 26, 2012, 11:28:00 am
element2

>become a solid element known as raw mycodium
raw mycodium creates solid substances (that out of the game would be known as generic "rock"), now, this generic primordial rock, it can catch eland and phlogiston to keep itself together, most of which get absorbed into the core creating an sphere-like rock floating.

>shoot some raw mycodium in space

most of our elements are made of nordic fish food. I am happy.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on February 26, 2012, 11:43:21 am
So you're saying the stars turn into... rock?

Quote from: twi
There are Elan stars and phlogiston stars. Ironically, both of them decay into element 2.
Title: Re: You are (making) physics! An unconventional suggestion game.
Post by: raptorfangamer on February 26, 2012, 11:46:11 am
Quote from: hubris_incalculable on February 26, 2012, 11:43:21 am
So you're saying the stars turn into... rock?

Quote from: twi
There are Elan stars and phlogiston stars. Ironically, both of them decay into element 2.

instead of exploding they turn into rock, which means you are either burned, or nommed when fighting a star
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Post by: Hubris Incalculable on February 26, 2012, 03:10:09 pm
New particle: Theosomaton: large concentrations will manifest into divine beings, with abilities that will influence natural forces. They tend to gather near large amounts of Mycodium, and any beings that form there will make it their home.
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Post by: Twi on February 26, 2012, 04:00:09 pm
New Basic Particle: Sauerkraut! Like Lutefisk, but different.

Element 2 is now: Mycodium. Tends to clump together all rock-like. :P

Theosomaton has been created. The gods are awake, this is not a drill.
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Going-Ons (Which need to be drawn at some point)

Star systems are developing, as well as mycodium 'planets'.  There are gods. They are bored.
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Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 26, 2012, 04:02:37 pm
I want a discworld.

 Create Chellonium( Basic component of star turtles) and eliphantigen( Basic component of elephants)
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Post by: Skyrunner on February 26, 2012, 04:02:47 pm
The gods grasp the threads of reality, the many lutefisk elements and sauerkrauts and mycodium and Elan stars and ether and Fridgonic particles, yes, every single one, and start shaping a single world that orbits a single Elan star...
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Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 26, 2012, 04:03:36 pm
Quote from: Skyrunner on February 26, 2012, 04:02:47 pm
The gods grasp the threads of reality, the many lutefisk elements and sauerkrauts and mycodium and Elan stars and ether and Fridgonic particles, yes, every single one, and start shaping a single world that orbits a single Elan star...
Throws some Quantums and Ideaparticles in the mix.
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Post by: Skyrunner on February 26, 2012, 04:04:43 pm
Yes, those too. ALL REALITY!

((not that they use all the particles and matter, just grasp them and take some of them to form a world.))
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Post by: Vorthon on February 26, 2012, 04:08:37 pm
Hmm... Should gravity make things collapse into a shape similar to that of the universe? (So that hydrostatic equilibrium results in toroidal planets & suns instead of spherical)
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Post by: Xeron on February 26, 2012, 04:10:08 pm
Yes
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Post by: Twi on February 26, 2012, 04:12:07 pm
Quote from: Vorthon on February 26, 2012, 04:08:37 pm
Hmm... Should gravity make things collapse into a shape similar to that of the universe? (So that hydrostatic equilibrium results in toroidal planets & suns instead of spherical)

Why the hell not?
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Anyways.

The gods have decided to make a lovely world on which they can duke it out and have their nonexistent underlings duke it out and such.

They name it Kearous. :P.
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Post by: Skyrunner on February 26, 2012, 04:13:00 pm
Well, 'gravity' is influenced by 4D energy intersecting with the 3D space of the Universe, so ...

Let's do it.

Ninja'd

The gods then decide to create magic. For the lolz.
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Post by: Twi on February 26, 2012, 04:14:38 pm
Now now, there is no reason magic cannot be self-consistent and describable via the scientific method, even if that consistency might be subjective rather than objective, don't you think?  ;)
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Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 26, 2012, 04:17:36 pm
Yup, create the Thaum, the elementary particle of magic. Thaums are organized Quantums( Ie, strange things happen the way you want them, and not randomly). Thaums automatically fall apart into Quantums when there's to much of them in a certain area. Thaums just spring up wherever they like to be.
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Post by: Skyrunner on February 26, 2012, 04:19:20 pm
Magic is manipulating said thaums to influence the movement of 4D Energy. This could create bursts of spontaneous combustion (aka Fireball), materialize stuff, and other magic-y things. This also means that lots of wizards bunched together using magic will quickly deplete the local amount of thaums.
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Post by: Furtuka on February 26, 2012, 04:27:13 pm
   Create Keriblan
      a substance that eats away at the nothingness outside of the universe. Keriblan will immediately begin traveling in a single "Direction" upon forming.

 From the perspective of one who is inside the universe, when Keriblan takes form it quickly collapses into a a sort of rip in the universe from which nothing can escape if they enter it, as it dumps them into the lawless space outside of the world and they begin to unravel.

 However in some cases, if something enters the rip from a specific direction, they instead are dumped back out of another rip somewhere else in the universe, this occurs when the Keriblan travels in such a way that it eventually loops back into the universe. This is much more common near the inner edge of the Universe for that reason.

Rips made by Keriblan also absorb Chronobits, slowing the flow of time around them. This also effects the traveling through the rips as the amount of time it takes to go through one speeds up based upon how old the rip is. Meanwhile something that travels through a newly formed rip might emerge a mellenia or so later.
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Post by: Skyrunner on February 26, 2012, 04:30:45 pm
How does Keriblan interact with energy and its mass shadow?
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Post by: Furtuka on February 26, 2012, 04:37:10 pm
Not much I guess? energy and it's resulting mass are capable of traveling through the rips as described
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Post by: alamoes on February 26, 2012, 04:40:38 pm
Put in 500000 joules of pi-energy in the shape of pies into our universe.  I really don't know how this would work in quantity of particles.  The pi energy keeps the universe smelling good.  This is the ether's source of food.  It also keeps evil garbage particle stuck in the senter.  No, not the center, the "senter" :D.  I really say good luck to you with this.  Onece the ethers eat oll of the pi-energy the garbage particles will flood the universe.  A formulla for the consumption of pi-energy is
y=Ea(4-Pi)^t
obviously the rate garbage particles leak through deserves a formula, but I'm not making that. 
G=garba
E=ether
a=initial amount of topic item
Pi=pi number
t=time
y=end amunt of topic item
Ea=E*a=electronic arts  :P
I'm done here.  :-X
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Post by: Skyrunner on February 26, 2012, 04:43:06 pm
....WE'RE DOOMED!

The rate of consumption is ... exponential.
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Post by: Vorthon on February 26, 2012, 04:46:08 pm
I vote against that, in that case.
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Post by: Furtuka on February 26, 2012, 04:55:39 pm
What's the senter?
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Post by: Hubris Incalculable on February 26, 2012, 04:57:47 pm
At a guess, it's an imaginary line, running through the middle of the torus, at an equal distance from any point on the edge of the universe.
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Post by: Twi on February 26, 2012, 04:58:03 pm
Dun dun dun!
Anyways.
Thaums exist. That's all from Twi now, this is kinda overloading him. :P
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Post by: Furtuka on February 26, 2012, 05:00:01 pm
Quote from: hubris_incalculable on February 26, 2012, 04:57:47 pm
At a guess, it's an imaginary line, running through the middle of the torus, at an equal distance from any point on the edge of the universe.

Well in that case, if Keriblan is implemented, then it could save the universe from the inevitable garbage singularity by eating holes that pass through the senter, allowing for the garba to be released into the nothingness
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Post by: Skyrunner on February 26, 2012, 05:09:38 pm
Perhaps Keriblan's 'eating away into nothingness' is actually converting stuff into energy that doesn't intersect with the 3D universe, meaning it is effectively removing it.
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Post by: Powder Miner on February 26, 2012, 05:39:37 pm
A new singularity-thinger is created: Kelerkaderkiderkreddddddddd It behaves like Herg (up to collisions with other kelerks), but when a herg and one of the kelerks collide, time in that area is reversed for a random amount of time and a Whatisgoingonaaaaaaaaaaaa particle is created.

Whatisgoingonaaaaaaaaaaaa: A new type of particle, it flips some aspect of any gods it touches. It also randomly adds a lutefisk to any other particle it touches. After the same amount of time as the time reversal of its creation event, it decays into trenelgin shards.

Trenelgin shards: Trenelgin shards are sub-particles that behave almost exactly like lutefisks, even being able to make things with them, except thatif caught in a herg's explosion, they will mutate into randomly any type of singularity, particle, or element.
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Post by: Haspen on February 27, 2012, 04:43:54 pm
Pens (singular: pen): Particles that spontaneously form when a lutefisk particle hits fridgonic particle at a very high(?) velocity. Pens have mass slightly larger than a lutefisk but they do not change the temperature nor form bonds with other pens. They generate a weak repulsion field which pushes away fridgonic particles. Of course, the more pens in a bunch, the stronger the field becomes.
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Post by: 10ebbor10 on February 27, 2012, 04:47:36 pm
Quote from: Haspen on February 27, 2012, 04:43:54 pm
Pens (singular: pen): Particles that spontaneously form when a lutefisk particle hits fridgonic particle at a very high(?) velocity. Pens have mass slightly larger than a lutefisk but they do not change the temperature nor form bonds with other pens. They generate a weak repulsion field which pushes away fridgonic particles. Of course, the more pens in a bunch, the stronger the field becomes.
So if you cool any sort of matter it would rapidly warm up.

Strange. SPeaking of that we need a Strange particle, whose only function is to puzzle future scientists.
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Post by: Skyrunner on February 27, 2012, 05:06:19 pm
Strange particle : This particle is an enigma. It stops when observed (but not seen), measured, quantified or in any way objected to anything minutely related to the scientific method. Its properties are of little significance.
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Post by: Xeron on February 28, 2012, 03:32:08 pm
Dark particle:These particles once appeared near living organisms makes them inherently evil.They obtain the knowledge of dark magic and terrible rituals.
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Post by: raptorfangamer on February 28, 2012, 03:36:58 pm
I request to see some sort of universemap with the particles interacting and such
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Post by: Twi on February 28, 2012, 05:44:50 pm
Strange exists.

Dark particles exist, but don't do anything partially because of lack of life and partially because evil is undefined. :P

Map is pending.... :/ Hard to keep up with this thread at times.
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Post by: Skyrunner on February 28, 2012, 06:47:10 pm
Can I make tha map? I'd like to try...
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Post by: Twi on February 28, 2012, 07:03:31 pm
Certainly, seeing as I'm kinda terrible at Paint.
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Post by: Skyrunner on February 28, 2012, 07:08:57 pm
Is the OP everything in the thread?
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Post by: Twi on February 28, 2012, 07:26:29 pm
Should be. Isn't. >_>
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Post by: Skyrunner on February 28, 2012, 09:02:21 pm
Ehh... what is a 'universe map'? o_O Right now I'm just drawing all the particles.
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Post by: raptorfangamer on February 28, 2012, 09:05:42 pm
Quote from: Skyrunner on February 28, 2012, 09:02:21 pm
Ehh... what is a 'universe map'? o_O Right now I'm just drawing all the particles.

the universe is a toroid

and what I mean by it is how have the particles reacted with each other so far (formed suns, rocks, and such)
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Post by: Powder Miner on February 28, 2012, 09:15:19 pm
Quote from: Powder Miner on February 26, 2012, 05:39:37 pm
A new singularity-thinger is created: Kelerkaderkiderkreddddddddd It behaves like Herg (up to collisions with other kelerks), but when a herg and one of the kelerks collide, time in that area is reversed for a random amount of time and a Whatisgoingonaaaaaaaaaaaa particle is created.

Whatisgoingonaaaaaaaaaaaa: A new type of particle, it flips some aspect of any gods it touches. It also randomly adds a lutefisk to any other particle it touches. After the same amount of time as the time reversal of its creation event, it decays into trenelgin shards.

Trenelgin shards: Trenelgin shards are sub-particles that behave almost exactly like lutefisks, even being able to make things with them, except thatif caught in a herg's explosion, they will mutate into randomly any type of singularity, particle, or element.
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Post by: Twi on February 28, 2012, 09:23:08 pm
Quote from: Powder Miner on February 28, 2012, 09:15:19 pm
Quote from: Powder Miner on February 26, 2012, 05:39:37 pm
A new singularity-thinger is created: Kelerkaderkiderkreddddddddd It behaves like Herg (up to collisions with other kelerks), but when a herg and one of the kelerks collide, time in that area is reversed for a random amount of time and a Whatisgoingonaaaaaaaaaaaa particle is created.

Whatisgoingonaaaaaaaaaaaa: A new type of particle, it flips some aspect of any gods it touches. It also randomly adds a lutefisk to any other particle it touches. After the same amount of time as the time reversal of its creation event, it decays into trenelgin shards.

Trenelgin shards: Trenelgin shards are sub-particles that behave almost exactly like lutefisks, even being able to make things with them, except thatif caught in a herg's explosion, they will mutate into randomly any type of singularity, particle, or element.

The names make my head hurt! D:
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Post by: Skyrunner on February 28, 2012, 09:35:21 pm
Okay, can't finish it today.

What I did so far : (link) (http://imgur.com/rz0wi)
OR
Spoiler: Warning - So humongous your monitor might explode (click to show/hide)

Upper right corner = Fridgonic
Blue squiggle - Mycodium
Purple thing - Theosomaton
Red round things - Lutefisk
Smaller orange round thing - Sauerkraut
Red sphere - Phlogiston star
Yellow sphere - Elan star
Black stick - Can't find it, a particle that did nothing but bond other particles
Question mark thing - Quantum particle
Small round black circle - Chronobits
Quotation mark - Herg
Four Quantum particles - Thaum
Gray particle - Ether
Light gray particle with lines after it - Idea particle

Big torus - THA UNIVERSE!
Black window's torus - A planet orbiting an Elan star. (which are totally spherical)
Grey plane with wire-model sphere - A diagram of energy and mass reduced by 1 dimension each.
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Post by: BunnyBob77 on February 28, 2012, 09:38:16 pm
Here's a suggestion: all particles should be able to be altered by application of enough strength (either mental or physical), although some are harder to change than others, like Fridgonic particles aren't too hard and chronobits are more difficult.
Meaning that magic exists, and can be done by punching stuff hard enough.
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Post by: Skyrunner on February 28, 2012, 09:38:58 pm
Magic already exists. Thaum.
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Post by: Powder Miner on February 28, 2012, 10:27:11 pm
Quote from: Twi on February 28, 2012, 09:23:08 pm
Quote from: Powder Miner on February 28, 2012, 09:15:19 pm
Quote from: Powder Miner on February 26, 2012, 05:39:37 pm
A new singularity-thinger is created: Kelerkaderkiderkreddddddddd It behaves like Herg (up to collisions with other kelerks), but when a herg and one of the kelerks collide, time in that area is reversed for a random amount of time and a Whatisgoingonaaaaaaaaaaaa particle is created.

Whatisgoingonaaaaaaaaaaaa: A new type of particle, it flips some aspect of any gods it touches. It also randomly adds a lutefisk to any other particle it touches. After the same amount of time as the time reversal of its creation event, it decays into trenelgin shards.

Trenelgin shards: Trenelgin shards are sub-particles that behave almost exactly like lutefisks, even being able to make things with them, except thatif caught in a herg's explosion, they will mutate into randomly any type of singularity, particle, or element.

The names make my head hurt! D:
The short forms:
Kelerk, What, Tren.
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Post by: Skyrunner on February 28, 2012, 10:53:23 pm
Uhm.. No comments on the universe map wip? :(
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Post by: Llamainaspitfire on February 28, 2012, 10:56:59 pm
Quote from: Skyrunner on February 28, 2012, 10:53:23 pm
Uhm.. No comments on the universe map wip? :(

Yeah, what'da use to make it?
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Post by: Roboboy33 on February 29, 2012, 12:28:44 am
New effect: Fridgonic phases.

The hotter something is the larger it gets, and vice versa, if you make something too big, (or hot) it will explode into Thaum, make something too small, (or cold) and it blinks out of exsictence, leaving behind large amounts of chronobits.
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Post by: raptorfangamer on February 29, 2012, 11:59:04 am
nice map, I couldnt see the planet orbiting the star though.
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Post by: Vorthon on February 29, 2012, 12:05:18 pm
And the sun's a sphere, not a torus. That doesn't make sense for the universe we are creating.

Also, I like the 'really-cold-things-disappear-in-a-puff-of-Chronobits' thing.
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Post by: Twi on February 29, 2012, 03:27:54 pm
Quote from: Vorthon on February 29, 2012, 12:05:18 pm
And the sun's a sphere, not a torus. That doesn't make sense for the universe we are creating.

Also, I like the 'really-cold-things-disappear-in-a-puff-of-Chronobits' thing.

If you could make that make sense to me I would totally do it. The 'stuff is torus naturally' bit.

Fridgonic phases could happen. I'm kind of behind here. :P
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Post by: Skyrunner on February 29, 2012, 03:28:24 pm
...I like sphere suns better D':

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Post by: Skyrunner on March 01, 2012, 05:59:47 pm
Donuts? Sprinkles? Chocolate? Sewage?

I have no idea what you are talking about :/
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Post by: Powder Miner on March 01, 2012, 06:01:34 pm
I made short forms of the names so they hurt heads less.