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RichardxCyrielle (Yes, she's a side character. No, that does not make this any less cute.)

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MariaxSelinaxYurixNuriel (HAREM)

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RichardxCamille (The only couple who knew each other for longer than two months. Woo~)

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AshleyxConnyxNurielxBismuth (OPPOSING HAREM)

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LylexEveryone (An Uke and five Semes. Go figure.)

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MariaxSelina (The original, accept no substitutes.)

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LyleXRichard (Too much yuri, not enough yaoi.)

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IzzyxLucas (Because a normal tsundere is not enough.)

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WillxStella (*insert witty tagline here*)

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MariexEveryone (Marie, duh.)

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AshleyXRichard (Screw retcons, I want my OTP now!)

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Total Members Voted: 23

[PrivateNomad]

That's all that happened? What about the raid on ASMRA?

[IamanElfCollaborator]

That's all that happened? What about the raid on ASMRA?

Oh, yeah, that. That was a bit forgotten when the souls thing came up*.

*aka we won

[Akroma]

yup.

if ICARUS invested actual thought into what Marie was saying, she might come to the conclusion that she does not have a soul, and that would unsettle her. Since it has no advantage of knowing that you have no soul, and since there is no downside to believing that you have a soul eventhough you might not have one, the overall effect is simply entirely removing a gigantic source of worry and existential dread that comes along with that question. ICARUS was basicaly just going (LALALA I CANT HEAR YOU) internaly the entire time, because she does not want to give Marie the chance to even instill a hint of a doubt in her mind.

and you gotta admit, it's kind of a mean thing to do and make someone question wether or not they have a soul, especially when that person is one of the first sentient AIs that currently exist and spends most her nights, unable to sleep, with trying to not be crushed by the question of what the hell she actually is. Massively touchy question. Just looke at what that got HILDA.

[IamanElfCollaborator]

yup.

if ICARUS invested actual thought into what Marie was saying, she might come to the conclusion that she does not have a soul, and that would unsettle her. Since it has no advantage of knowing that you have no soul, and since there is no downside to believing that you have a soul eventhough you might not have one, the overall effect is simply entirely removing a gigantic source of worry and existential dread that comes along with that question. ICARUS was basicaly just going (LALALA I CANT HEAR YOU) internaly the entire time, because she does not want to give Marie the chance to even instill a hint of a doubt in her mind.

and you gotta admit, it's kind of a mean thing to do and make someone question wether or not they have a soul, especially when that person is one of the first sentient AIs that currently exist and spends most her nights, unable to sleep, with trying to not be crushed by the question of what the hell she actually is. Massively touchy question. Just looke at what that got HILDA.

If it wasn't for the no canon character rule, Richard would have shut them both up by referring to robots that have Personas, which kinda sets precedent for robots to have souls/be sentient.

[Twi]

Hey, Marie doesn't see it that way. There are otherwise perfectly normal people in her world who don't have souls. Not having magic is annoying, but they get by.

As you can imagine, Marie doesn't give a fuck.

[IamanElfCollaborator]

Hell, the only person who does is probably ICARUS, ironically.

[Akroma]

yeah, but without a soul, ICARUS would literaly just be a thing. A simulation of a mind, even less of a mind than HILDA, who at least got this void stuff going on where you seemingly never have a soul. But ICARUS has no relation to the void whatsoever. For ICARUS, the distinction between having a soul and not having a soul is the difference between being a person and a toaster.

[kj1225]

And Kyle is firmly believes that souls are bullshit as no one has shown him proof of it that is concrete. Which is what happened last time. If he does have a soul he will remove it as it is unessessary.

[Twi]

Whether or not she thinks she has a soul does not change her sentience.

Also, Kyle, *points at Anima*

There.

ALTERNATIVELY.

Mind magic.

Consciousness is immaterial and emergent, hard to predict from the physical activity of the brain. Unless there's something ethereal connected to your brain, like, say, a soul, how would mind magic work?

[Akroma]

yeah, but one sentience is content, while the other is driven to insanity over the question of what the hell she is, and the feeling of not belonging

[IamanElfCollaborator]

yeah, but without a soul, ICARUS would literaly just be a thing. A simulation of a mind, even less of a mind than HILDA, who at least got this void stuff going on where you seemingly never have a soul. But ICARUS has no relation to the void whatsoever. For ICARUS, the distinction between having a soul and not having a soul is the difference between being a person and a toaster.

Well, the answer to that question might be solved by shoving her into the nearest TV and seeing if a Shadow forms. If it does, she has a soul. If not, well, we tried.

And Kyle is firmly believes that souls are bullshit as no one has shown him proof of it that is concrete. Which is what happened last time. If he does have a soul he will remove it as it is unessessary.

Uh....yeah, the only ways someone can perform soulectomy on themselves is to die, throw themselves into the Void and hope for the best, or a lot of painful experiments which will probably result in him dying first.

Hell, Kyle IS proof they exist; say hi, Merlin.

[Twi]

So as usual, Marie gets to laugh at her scientific outlook being superior and allowing for peace of mind even if she knew full well that she didn't have a soul. Because that's interesting!

IN all seriousness, though, science is not safe for non-Marie's, apparently.

[IamanElfCollaborator]

So as usual, Marie gets to laugh at her scientific outlook being superior and allowing for peace of mind even if she knew full well that she didn't have a soul. Because that's interesting!

And Anima gets to resume not giving a shit because she got over that before the Romans became an empire!

[kj1225]

You realize that's like pointing to a bible for proof of an actual christian god...

Also, I will mention that, since it probably won't come up, Kyle doesn't believe in actual gods. Just powerful people who get pissy when you say they aren't gods.

Come on. Kyle is already scuicidal. It's not like he cares about dieing in the course of removing his soul.

[Twi]

ALTERNATIVELY.

Mind magic.

Consciousness is immaterial and emergent, hard to predict from the physical activity of the brain. Unless there's something ethereal connected to your brain, like, say, a soul, how would mind magic work?

Hell, Kyle IS proof they exist; say hi, Merlin.