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Title: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.08: The True Names of Things
Post by: kiiranaux on August 03, 2021, 04:53:26 pm

   At the dawn of time, in the age of mythology, great primordial beasts roamed the countryside, battling each other for dominion. Locked in their vaults, angels and their descendents performed cruel hybridization experiments to create a perfect being capable of reconquering the heavens, ever watchful for the demons sealed away in their care. It was into this savage world that the great civilizations of Man, Elf, Dwarf, and Merrow found themselves thrust.
   As they engaged in friendly competition, sharing technologies and magics, each civilization became aware that there were other factions on the margins. From the nearby plains watched feisty goblins, hobgoblins marching in lock step, and sahuagin plaguing the shallow waters. In the local caves lurked skulking kobolds, carefree halflings, hissing lizards, and angry technologists protected by automatons. And worse still, in the deep oceans lurked another civilization - naga, who mercilessly extinguished incursions from goodmen and snatchers alike. Nonetheless, each of the three other factions, as they came to be known, continued to expand across the land.
   While the horn of progress sounded on, a few lucky individuals made breakthroughs in the magical arts. So-called 'sorcerers' were born with magical gifts - aether, fire, healing, or darkness - while 'wizards' studied into the depths of the night to master the same. Each aided their factions, but a few rogue individuals discovered the very secrets of magic itself, bequethed by the gods or forces far more fell, erecting dark towers and amassing sinister armies of bone, shadow, or silence.
   In these turbulent times, as each faction competed for ever-more power, for guns, magic, and steel, someone dug too deep. History does not record whether it was the dwarves or the goblins, but the passage they created unleashed hordes of orcs, themselves fleeing a far greater doom: demons, the discarded legions of the gods.
   During this age of calamity, the story's ending is left for you. Will the united do-gooders push back against the encroaching tide? Or will orcs join the other snatchers in time to seize the momentum? Perhaps chaos will reign, as the relentless Naga or isolated secretkeepers will exploit the shifting tides of power and capture the realm. Or perhaps fate will rest in the hands of a lowly tribe of kobolds, dark gnomes, or a hobbit...
   Someday, the conflict must come to an end. Only the most non-magical of creatures will survive: men, mundane as mud, but occasionally bearing the mark of another races' lineage. Men, wielding guns, magic, and steel as they set off into the wilds to finally put an end to the time of troubles. After all, so-called GOOD and EVIL are just two facets of the same twisted, mocking gods.

The choice is yours.

Welcome to the High Fantasy mod and modpack for Dwarf Fortress.

Promo Image:

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(https://i.imgur.com/9zDjZhB.png)

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Highfantasy is a mod layered atop of vanilla Dwarf Fortress that expand the vertical and horizontal scope of the game.

We incorporated elements of Tolkien-esque – and more modern – high fantasy, while remaining true to the vision of vanilla Dwarf Fortress. It’s balanced and bug-free, with each feature is designed to play well with every other feature. This mod is not in development – it is complete, and there are no more features planned, just additional balancing based on played feedback. And, HighFantasy is completely standalone. You should install it on a fresh download of dwarf fortress with no Lazy Newb Pack or other installers. This also means the mod can be updated to new versions of D.F. almost instantly!

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Installation instructions:

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-Download a fresh copy of Dwarf Fortress 50.04 or higher from the bay12 games website: http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/ (http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/)
-Unzip the download and drop the entire folder into [root] -> mods.
-Move the file "embark_profiles" into [root] -> prefs. You may need to create the prefs folder
-During worldgen, add Highfantasy, and deselect "Vanilla Creatures" "Vanilla Manterials" "Vanilla Bodies" for now.

Guide to modifying your copy of Highfantasy: this post (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=178840.msg8438809#msg8438809)

Mini-mods:

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"Big Cats and Lap Dogs." A standalone and completely 47.05 vanilla file that introduces two more common_domestic creatures, forest cats and lap dogs, which perform the functions of dogs and cats, respectively, in case you really prefer one species or the other. They are 100% vanilla and in their own file, creature_highfantasy_domestic, so can be used with pretty much any other mod. (Please extract the file from the Highfantasy download for now)

"Slimes of Armok: God of Splorch." A standalone 47.05 minimod which adds slimes and slime farming to Dwarf Fortress, based on (but not limited to a direct reproduction of) Stardew Valley and other video game sources, which fill unique design spaces (renewable resources, but not for iron). They are mostly vanilla and in their own files, creature_highfantasy_slime + material_template_slime + inorganic_highfantasy_slime + reaction_highfantasy_slime & item_tool_highfantasy (which is required by the base mod).
   -Any civ can capture and tame slimes in the second cavern layer.
   -Slimes are not trainable, but breed rapidly and birth fully formed
   -Slimes can be butchered for unique returns or for the "slime" building material.
   -Across four subspecies, there are 10 color families, 48 castes, and 114 attainable colors ranging from common to rare.
   -Slime color families inherit their colors genetically and have unique drops.
   -Slimes are milkable for (minimal) passive income, and 1 in 1111 "prismatic" slimes are milkable for candy byproducts.

By the way, I authored The New, Definitive Guide to RGB Slime Ranching in Stardew Valley (https://www.reddit.com/r/StardewValley/comments/m1hkgk/15_the_new_definitive_guide_to_rgb_slime_ranching/h0zty1f/?%24deep_link=true&correlation_id=464a47c6-3aba-41f1-96c0-d480a05a3d61&ref=email_comment_reply&ref_campaign=email_comment_reply&ref_source=email&%243p=e_as&_branch_match_id=864248996733043575) over on reddit.

"BlackPowder Firearms: Reloaded." Revised for compatibility with mods outside of Highfantasy. (Download coming soon).

Highfantasy focuses on 4 additions: Polishing, Balancing, Adding Horizontal and Vertical Progression Systems.

• More of the consistent dwarf fortress gameplay you love, including 20 new semi/megabeasts
• 14 unique, balanced, different-feeling civilizations trading and competing in 4 fleshed-out factions
• Better endgame hazards ranging from toxic materials and diseased creatures to siege machines to disguised impostors and powerful bloodlines
• Balanced, rewarding vertical progression systems that D.F. hasn’t reached yet – guns, magic, and more

In total, the features are:
   1. "Raw changes you can't do without"
   2a 14 Classic high-fantasy civilizations with factions and distinct features
    2.b More interesting underground civs
    2.c Reorganization of the caverns; Dinos; Eldrazi horrors; More fantasy creatures everywhere
    2.d Make animal-people above-ground more interesting/rarer
    2.e A Divine civ to make divine language and materials see usage
   3a Flesh out existing civ gameplay
    3.b lineage system for playable tieflings, aasimar, etc without ip-specific names
    3.c Catapults, Gunpowder, Orc Sieges
    3.d Better adventure mode
    3.e Hazardous materials, disguised creatures, and diseased creatures
   4. A complete and consistent magic system to complement Necromancy

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Inspired by D.F., this mod feels a little more mysterious than others.

There are no I.P. based creature or ability names! You don’t “Cast the Fireball spell”, which is inherently DnD, you “stretch out your hand and project a ball of magical fire. You aren’t a “Tiefling”, you’re a “human with touches of fiendish ancestry.” There aren’t “Gold Dragons”, there are just Dragons, and you won’t know what they do until they’re eating your corpse. And so on. Dwarf Fortress eschews limiting I.P. based names in favor of procedural generation, so we eschew I.P based names until D.F. can out-do us. When D.F. adds procedural magic, we’ll take ours out. When D.F. adds procedural dragons, we’ll get rid of ours.

There’s one more thing. This mod promises to not invalidate the information you can get just by reading the wiki. There are almost no changes to existing creatures, items, or even systems that would make it so that reading a wiki article about that thing is not helpful to you. Short swords still have edged cuts, giant giraffes are still in the savage biomes, and candy still comes with the circus. (Two exceptions: animalmen have been moved to good biomes, and the third cavern layer has been squeezed up to layer two.)

more consistent general gameplay.

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In fort mode, this means you can do logical things like use dragonscales as leather and giant insect chitin as bone, and a few surface stones like Flint and Chert are strong enough to make weapons. In adventure mode, you can pick more plant growths, repair your armor, and make lots of interesting items that would help your quest, while not becoming a total lone craftsman. And, there is a reasonably small list of civilized, magical, and animal people to choose from in gameplay. In both modes, there are many more interesting fantasy creatures, both intelligent, friendly, wild, and deadly, almost all of which are confined to non-Mundane biomes for balance. There are training weapons for more skill types, domestic animal men including catgirls, giant domestics and giant pond vermin, magical creatures like griffons, a few dinosaur groups and many extinct mammals, and veterinarians to heal animals. There are also more real-world animals, from seagulls to meerkats to Sulawesi cave pigs, which kobolds like to domesticate.
Although there are many new magical creatures, Non-intelligent Non-megabeast fantasy creatures are confined to non-mundane biomes (Savage, Evil, or Good), with the sole exceptions being skales, drakes, and elementals. So like in DF, in mundane biomes you'll have mostly mundane wildlife.
AnimalMen have been moved to Good biomes in keeping with the mod story. This means much more diversity in Savage biomes. They also have standardized armor sizes - only eight sizes to choose from instead of 300, four of which fit humans and/or dwarves!

new civilizations.

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This mod has 14 of them, and that number is no coincidence! In Vanilla D.F., there are 4 types of civilization: Normal Men/Elves/Dwarves, Evil Goblins, Thieving Kobolds, and an unused super evil faction. In Highfantasy, there are 4 Normal, 4 Evil, 4 Thieving, and 2 Superbad civs. There are also 2 different powerlevels of hidden, underground civilization, and finally, animal people were rebalanced and moved from SAVAGE to GOOD biomes. The most popular animal people from things like Magic the Gathering and DnD are almost always playable – Tigermen and Hyenamen (gnolls) and such.
Here are the civilizations:
   4Normal:   Dwarves   The same dwarves as ever, the only ones to mine adamantine. They have access to the second highest amount of reactions and materials of all races, and are balanced.
         Human*   Industrious surface dwellers who can make boulders and logs with high efficiency, and the masters of primitive gunpowder. Embark with your Lord and expand!
         Elves*      The forest dwelling civilization can grow useful wood from seeds, and can even “bloom” metals into Mythril, which is sharper than steel. Biologically immortal.
         Mer      These “sea-elves” use caught fish to grow coral and seaweed for use as building materials, can make unique weapons out of native metals and jade, and control weather.
   4Snatcher:   Orcs      The master siegers ride into battle on worgs with huge steel weapons and powerful siege machines, and live in dark towers ruled by demons. They also get a bonus to burning trees into charcoal.
         Goblins*   These wild creatures live in primitive tribes, fending off attacks from feral goblins and adopting rival tribe members. They build with bone and drink booze distilled from meat, and many of their pets spread debilitating diseases.
         Hobgoblins   These larger goblinoids march in lock-step with huge armies, and apply the human advantages of limited gunpowder and efficient building to the bad team. They have mastered the creation of the ancient alloy Orichalcum, which is harder than steel.
         Sahuagin   These wave-dwelling baddies have come to land, accompanied by vicious landsharks, and they take no prisoners.
   4Thief:      Kobold*   These adorable dograts live in sprawling caves milking their goats and pigs to brew fermented drinks, while salvaging the scraps of other races and sometimes obeying a dragon overlord. Just be careful not to milk a diseased beak dog or worg!
         Dark Gnomes   This spiteful race lives in mountain fortresses, where they build golems to do their labor and battle. They don’t use weapons, but are the only thief civ to use magic.
         Lizardmen and Halfings   You’ll be hard-pressed to find one of these hidden, non-playable civilizations, who mostly wish to escape the din of the world. One is offensive, the other defensive.
   2Superbad:   Naga      The slavers of the world, Naga take neither pet nor prisoner, and are exceptionally deadly fighters with both natural poison and mastery of weapons, magic, and their signature harpoon guns.
         Half-Angel   These descendants of the celestials are the “godmode” civilization, who can do everything anyone else can – but they WILL still attack you for a late-game challenge. Furthermore, they have access to animal hybridization magics that elude all other races, being able to summon great beasts at their labs. Half-angels can repopulate the world with forgotten beasts, Titans, Night creatures, animalmen, demons, and just about anything else, and can forge Divine metals and materials.

Finally, every race in Highfantasy has unique attack conditions, pack animals, permitted reactions, profession names, speech files, religious idols, and even noble titles tastefully inspired by the real world. No more 5 copies of the human civilization; you will definitely feel the difference.
(Dwarf = Medieval Britain+Scotland. Human = Medieval China. Mer = Aztecs. Goblin = NE Native American. Hobgoblin = Roman Empire. Orc = Mongols. Kobold = Primitive Man. Lizal = Medieval India. Angels = Muslim Caliphates. Fiends (optional) = Babylon / Sumerian. Elves, Sahuagin, DkGnomes, and Naga = fantasy inspired.

One quirk of the mod - in keeping with dF's "ages" idea, there are absolutely NO outsider controllable creatures except for Humans. Many creatures are playable from their tribes or when they join civs, but once they die out, they die out. In the end, only humanity is guaranteed.

better civilization-level gameplay.

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Every system included in the mod is designed to balance every other one. There are no “infinite reactions” without a cost. Weapons from Mod B aren’t broken compared to Mod A (thanks to Sver Combat Revised), etc, except for guns, which are more powerful to balance their detailed unlocking. Even wizardly studies cost time and materials.
   Another sort of exception is the mod’s lineage system. This mod introduces the idea that creatures can be magically-touched in their ancestry, ie, a tiefling. But in the spirit of dwarf fortress, we don’t use those special words. You can’t tell a tiefling ( “outsider” in dnd terms, but that means something different to DF players) by its name, or its appearance; you have to check its actual description. There are Angel, Demon, Fey, Shadow, and Elemental tieflings, and they appear in all 4 Normal and some other civilizations. You can get a Tiefling fort migrant, fort invader, fresh adventurer, or even adventure mode npc.
       Finally, new civilization-level hazards await. For the individual miner, certain caustic materials underground can lead to debilitating conditions, while diseased versions of certain underground creatures can plague the entire fort. In the third cavern layer await horrific, amalgamated creatures; sauropods stalk the savage wilds; and new megabeasts roam the skies, some of them with unique and deadly abilities. Siege weapons, which are creatures much like wagons, offer new threats from invaders. Combined with the lineage system, tricksome creatures force the player to always check creature descriptions and not just names.

better systems and vertical progression.

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Highfantasy introduces multiple vertical progression systems which works by gathering materials and learning recipes over time, much like adamantine in the vanilla game.
For the fighters among us, megabeasts have beating hearts which hold the cures to various difficult ailments including vampirism, old age, or sterility. Meanwhile, toxic creatures have bulbous venom sacs which adventures can extract to create contact poisons for subterfuge and sabotage.
Guns, the strongest mundane weapons, are a complicated mechanism that requires assembling a lock, a stock, and a barrel, plus gunpowder and bullets. All their reactions are confined to new workshops and are intended to be an endgame weapon for Human, Dwarves, Hobgoblins, Orcs, and Naga.
Highfantasy also introduces a balanced magic system loosely based on Dark Souls. (Spellcrafts mod) There are 5 main schools of magic besides necromancy: Aetherial, Miracles, Pyromancy, Polymorphy, and Hexing. Each of these schools of magic can be studied and passed from student to teacher as a secret in worldgen, OR, they can be studied meticulously in adventure or fort mode as a “wizard” of one of the schools.  Finally, there are two more secrets that are much rarer: the Shadowmancers, who raise corpses as shadows and build towers, and the Order of Silencers, who work to expunge all magic. They will fight back against your magical learning. Good luck surviving the endgame in this challenging world.

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A Balanced Magic System like No Other

Magic in Highfantasy takes inspiration mainly from the Dark Souls series and in part from popular fantasy ideas. Highfantasy divides magic into multiple “sources” and “schools.” When designing a new fantasy magic system, it’s important for there to be a reasoning or a mythos as to why the magic works the way it does, or how its schools have come to be. Here, the magic mythos is summarized in the following arcane diagram, which any good summoner would find located on their planar tomes:

(https://i.imgur.com/FfYz2A4.png)

The magic mythos of Highfantasy:

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Magic is an innate part of the world. Perhaps magic is dwindling, as evidenced by the emergence of so-called Pristinely Ungifted humans, but for now, it exists in wild places and manifests in mysterious ways. Pure magic, represented by the central faded blue dot, is known as “aetherial” or “aether” magic. Like a prism, this aether magic warps into one of the four classical elements - fire, water, earth(/poison/acid), and air(/lightning). When magic is especially concentrated, “elementals” appear, humanoids made entirely out of one or more of the classical elements, or “aetherials” made of pure magic itself. Some creatures, most prominently the five castes of dragon and four types of genie, are also strongly associated with an elemental school.
In Dwarf Fortress, the gods are mysterious and otherworldly beings. Strangely, they are associated with both good and evil, heaven and hell; they created angels to guard their vaults, but also released demons into the depths. The gods have their own magic, called “divine” magic, represented by the golden triangle. This magic is focused on life itself, mostly involving healing and protecting effects, and secondarily in magnified lightning magics.
As the gods pursue their heavenly squabbles and earthly interventions, they interact with the elemental magic innate to the world to provide mortals with the “gifts” of three empowered schools. First, for reasons yet unknown, the gods created demons out of elemental fire. From these demons flow the school of Pyromancy, represented by the red locus, and empowered fire magics.. Second, to populate the world, the gods created plants and animals. From these natural creatures flow the school of Polymorphy, represented by the green locus, and empowered earth magics. Finally, the preserve the mortals and their balance of power, the gods created Necromancy, represented by the dark blue locus, and empowered ice magics. Necromancy and Polymorphy are known as the “Creation” arc, Polymorphy and Pyromancy as the “Change” arc, and Pyromancy and Necromancy as the “Destruction” arc of the gods’ wills.
Summoners who have discovered this planar diagram are able to call forth beings associated with any part of existence using rituals of invocation. The school of Summoning magic is represented by the black circle that unites all the rest.
All of these magics take place in a single plane of existence and reality, but beyond reality itself lies a dark force of eldritch beings. These beings wield a magic known as “dementia”, for it warps mind and flesh into horrors beyond belief. When eldritch beings emerge from the realities beyond, they bring their own magic with them, represented by the line that cuts into the circular plane of magic. Naturally, the gods have attempted to interact with this horrific magic, creating the secret of Shadowmancy and of unnatural births. Mortals, too, seek to study and replicate these magics, if only for their own protection, but can only recreate so-called “shadow” magic as a pale reflection. Finally, where dementia magic meets and corrupts aetherial magic, only a void remains, known as the school of Silence.
Rumors speak of another type of foreign being that deals with innate magics known as “psyionics,” but evidence of this magic is limited throughout the world.

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Questions and Credits

Help! I can't - actually, how do any of these civilizations work!?
Check out (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=178840.msg8301543#msg8301543) the third post in this thread for a full how-to of each distinct civilization and tips on many areas of gameplay!

So what did you actually do? Why are you releasing this mod/pack?

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Well, to put it simply, this is how I want to play DF, and I want others to share that.
Highfantasy represents a collection of mods that has been balanced for years to play perfectly together. In addition to the tens of thousands of lines of code that are completely and utterly my own (such as for the mod's unique Merrow/Sea-Elf civilization), I also wrote hundreds of thousands of lines of compatability code - to balance weapons, systems, and things and make the systems consistent and cohesive. Sometimes this involved incredible amounts of grunt work - I probably wrote a thousand lines of code just adding kobold milk reactions to creatures from other mods, or venom sac reactions outside of Adventurecraft. Dwarvemon and Primal each required reviewing a million lines. Other times it meant a lot of design thinking to make sure the play experience was integral - such as redoing the entire magic system from the ground up.

Hey, did you consider adding classes like Paladin and Druid?

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Considered and discarded. Class in things like DnD or your favorite MMO are actually magic systems, and they're actually super limiting. Dwarf mods that add classes usually work either by introducing secrets which teach a bunch of magic interactions (even for non-"magic" things like barbarians having battle rage), or by introducing fake "races" like "Dwarf that's a Druid." Neither of these systems are elegant, and it doesn't make sense to me to call "perfect archer arrow shots" and "barbarian rages" spells. Instead, Highfantasy - like Dwarf Fortress itself - enables each character to be completely free to study whatever they want. You can be a Dwarf Sorcerer who uses magic with a pyromancy focus and is a damn fine archer and crime scene investigator, all in one - no fake races or extra secrets required!

Are there graphics?

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Tilesets are not supported for Highfantasy in DF Classic. Highfantasy stands on its own without any helper mods or modloades. Graphics for steam have been created by multiple artists, who are all credited there.

What mods are included? Are those mod authors being respected?

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Every line of code written by another mod author is meticulously credited - in the readme and in the files. Although their mods have been modified, sometimes heavily, their vision is respected and they were all contacted prior to the release of this mod:
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Modname         Signature   Author      Link                               Notices
n/o   Modest          (MM)      [LargeSnail]   http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=174231.0
Y   Revised       {+}       [Taffer et al]   http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=161832.0      
sent   Spice          (VSR)       [Warlord255]   http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=173907.0
Y   All Races Playable    (ARP)      [Lovechild]   http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=140713.0
Y   Primal          (DEP)      [Enemy Post]   http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=172869.15
n/d   Assorted Creatures Pack   (ACP)      [Enemy Post]   http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=163773.0   
n/a   Veterinarian Golems    (Vetg)      [Enemy Post]   https://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=14707
sent   Monstrous       (TB DND)   [Teneb]      http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=173304.0
Y   Goblin Hordes, Humans    (hordes; hf)    [Brolol.404]   http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=174305.0
Y   Savage Domestics    (savdom)   [Atkana]    http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=178013.0
Y   A Dwarven Domestic    (no vanilla)   [vettlingr]   http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=171979.0
n/a   Blackpowder       (BPFA)       [Jake*]      http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=85060.0
n/a   Toymod          (toymod)   [I3erent]
n/a   Dragon Blood       (db)      [Nixeris]    https://www.reddit.com/r/dwarffortress/comments/mezb3n/mod_dragon_blood/
n/d   Combat Reworked      (unmarked)   [Sver]      http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=170474.0   
Y   Spellcrafts      (no vanilla)   [Eric Blank]   http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=149426.0
Y   Vanilla Expanded Creatures()      [Splint]   http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=177593.0
Y   Adventurecrafts      (unmarked)   [Random_Dragon]   http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153036.0
Y   Voliol'sVariousVivants   (no vanilla/VVV)[voliol]   http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=170936.0
Y   What Lurks Below   (no vanilla)   [ZM5]      http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=167606.0
*Blackpowder completely restored and modernized by Kiiranaux.

What is Highfantasy compatible with?

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Highfantasy is not designed for compatibility, and is self-balanced, but of course I encourage your creativity. Here are some observations.
Legends Viewer: Yes, using "the old way" not "the DF hack way"
Any mod that does not edit raw files, such as ZM5's Lands of Duality or Splint's Extended: Yes, but there will be small errorlog errors, that won't matter.
Any mod that is already "digested" into Highfantasy, including ZM5's Lurks Below or Spellcrafts: NO! This will cause major bugs including list-shift errors.
Any mod that relies upon DFHACK: NO! Not supported, not recommended, unsure if bugs.
Any LazyNewbPack: NO! This will cause minor graphical errors.

I'm a mod author too! Can I use your files?

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Yes! But please be careful; it's hard to detangle my work from the many other authors involved. Look for the -SI- or - SI - codetags to know it's my work. In particular, I'd love to see my Merrow and Naga make their way into other peoples' worlds! Just please, credit me and the other mod authors wherever relevant.
The blackpowder mod is an exception, since I rebuilt it from the ground up from Jake's work. Please contact before using.
In general, be sure to contact me so I can check out what you've done! That leads to healthy and collaborative relationships.

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   This mod:
      is an alternative to existing big conversion mods that
      does not require DFHack or other utilities
   This mod:
      -is "Belgian Vanilla", trying to imitate the vanilla DF vision and play
      -is well-tested with an empty errorlog
      -is extremely easy to update with new DF updates
      -explicitly and painstakingly credits the work of other mod authors
   This mod:
      -is balanced for a great play experience
      -is feature complete, except for graphics and language work to be added over time.

   *Any proceeds will be set aside and used to allocate time to update this mod for Steam

Thank you for playing and enjoy the mod! And thanks to the all the first-year testers:

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Atkana
PlumpHelmetMan
Slots
voliol
DwarfStar
Sanguis
VABritto
Chbost
FiveBalesofHay
Ramiel. (special thanks)
Paranatural
Crashy_McGee
TheLastVegan

Highfantasy is also on Steam (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2900159797) Discord (https://discord.com/channels/329272032778780672/1055920819827654726) Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/dwarffortress/comments/qbisbd/introducing_the_highfantasy_mod_civs_creatures/)

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Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.00: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance; No DFHack. [47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on August 03, 2021, 04:54:31 pm

README

This is the modlog for kiiranaux's dwarf fortress edits - Highfantasy Mod / Modpack.
This mod group is up to date as of: v0.47.05 (Feb 1 2021).

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Version History:
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v1.4.X; "Under the Spawning Sun"
Additions: adds a few more dinosaur types
Additions: adds SPL's waterlogged creatures
Additions: adds support for Squamous/Kruggsmash autumn kingdom creatures (light version)
Additions: adds support for ZM5's Mythological Creatures minimod: 1 megabeast, 1 semimega, 1 feature_beast, 1 demon, 2 savage predators, 2 humanoids, 2 evil, 1 good creature
Additions: adds a forest plant "glowing nettle" that creates an extract called goblinbane.
Additions: adds 3 new prehistoric trees and the "dinosaur food chains" system
Additions: adds some flavor variation to cooking
Additions: adds Ley Feeders, a new creature
Spawning: balances creature spawning in evil and savage biomes, and for dinosaurs which are now rarer. (Extinct, intelligent, and elemental creatures, and mundane biomes, were covered in 1.3.0.)
Spawning: balances plant spawning to reflect vanilla
Spawning: a couple beasts now spawn as a FEATURE_BEAST (caverns) rather than a megabeast (surface) including: Balor, Marilith, Kampe, Spider Queen, Hollow/Amalgated/Dessicated One
Spawning: fixes spawning for some interesting creatures that were previously bugged - firenewts, tentacle demons, aberrations/aboleth, and visitors
Creatures: Human, Hobgoblins, Halflings, and Half-Angels are now TRAPAVOID, making each one quite a bit more challenging during invasions
Creatures: revisits spawning, naming, symbols, and more for demons across the mod
Interactions: adds an Adrenaline system for most humanoids
Interactions: the abilities of three more mythological creatures - Cait Sidhe, Furies/Erinys, Sirens - were rolled into Strangelings, Nightwings, Sirens, making each one more deadly.
Names/Descriptions: at great personal cost X_X, cleans up and standardizes descriptions of all animals, animal men, and giants. Now only animal men have gender dimorphic descriptions.
Reactions: cleans up the reaction shortcuts at the crafting workshop
Entities: adds difficulties to growing plants outdoors, to make the system non-trivial
Entities: removed a feature where Modest Mod allowed large fish to be pets, which created various problems
Adventure Mode: adds standardized DIFFICULTYs (adventure mode exp) for all relevant creatures across the whole mod
WorldGen: reviews creatures for whether they are NATURAL, SUPERNATURAL, and so on, mostly under the hood.
Debug: bugfix to the long-broken creation of bayonetted weapons
Debug: finishes the implementation of FEATURE_BEASTs
Debug: imports Ramiel.'s fixes to stone and soil tiles, finally restoring them to vanilla!@@

v1.3.X; "The Disuise Update" & "The Spawn Distribution Update"
Minimods: SLIMES OF ARMOK: GOD OF SPLORCH adds slimes and slime farming to Dwarf Fortress
Additions: (Symbols) Many creatures have been added to the "disguise" system, where their identities are hidden until viewing the description.
Additions: Added feral goblins to evil biomes as an analog to the wild goblins in savage biomes and failed hybrids in good biomes.
Additions: Added playable wild dragonfolkm naga, and psionic humans (normal biomes, like most magical humanoids).
Additions: Added mimics and oozes underground. As expected, they fit into highfantasy's "no IP" and "disguise" systems.
Additions: Ported over cave potatoes from Splint plant_cavern_shrubs_ex. Like other dwarf crops, made them poisonous to humans, forcing humes to at least farm aboveground.
Additions: Ported grawl (heavily edited) and spice shrooms (mostly unchanged) from Erik Blank's subterranean extras. As usual, cavern plants are largely not added to HF for balance reasons; skipped creatures can be easily readded per player preference.
Creatures: Replaced many VSR and ex_ creatures' CRAZED with PRONE_TO_RAGE:; this particular effects fish/water biomes
Creatures: Iron Elementals (vanilla, underground Iron Men) are now made of, and drop, Limonite, not iron itself.
Creatures: Many creatures that were missing spawn conditions now spawn properly
Creatures: Restricted aboveground Rodent Men to good biomes like all their other animal kin.
Creatures: For all lowercase extinct creatures, opened up the biomes they can spawn in but turned the frequency down to 1
Creatures: Animalmen are no longer LARGE_PREDATORs, meaning they do not spawn-compete, and that the popular men spawn.
Interactions/Syndromes: added bonus syndrome/creature class "likes_vodka" to humans, matching warlord's "cheese" syndromes. (chinese vodka exists and some of it is delicious, by the way)
Interactions/Syndromes: creatures that like meat are once again immune to liking cheese, as Warlord intended; however, goblins, hobgoblins, and orcs like cheese regardless.
Interactions/Secrets: Channelers (divine secret) can now summon the storm achwurm creature.
Classes: Added material resistances to genies and to feytouched, aasimar, tieflings, and genasi.
Reactions: Studying dementia/shadow magic now has a 1% chance to nearly kill the user (FORT MODE ONLY), but the chance of learning has been doubled.
Entities: Removed the AMBUSHER tag from Humans and Naga.
Bugs: frostbite bug was caused by no chest clothing for certain civs. With addition of necklaces and soutifs, this should be resolved.
Bugs: spellcharges no longer violently sublimate upon creation
Bugs: heavily reduced the weight of harpoons and AHTLATL darts (tlacochtli), and moderately reduced the velocity. The velocity is still very high, as this is a gun weapon. Need feedback on velocity of gun weapons before adjusting much further.
Bugs: debugs civs can now properly use the "hybridize" summon reactions to repopulate the world with dangerous / unique creatures.
Bugs: added spawn conditions for hybrids; they were missing
Files: added additional speech files
SPAWNING CHANGES:
Spawning: Reviewed spawning for extinct animals, intelligent people, elementals, and in mundane biomes.
removed non-megabeast spawn conditions for megabeasts, and so on
intelligent humanoids are large_roaming (so they spawn) but not large_predator (so they spawn more)
changes: adjusted spawns of multiple non-vanilla plants and vermin so that they only generate in biomes where there are already plants
Every mundane biome should have at least one intelligent humanoid non-Large_predator; and drake/skale separate
One intelligent aggressor humanoid per nonmundane biome
All EVIL: feral goblins
All GOOD: failed hybrids
All SAVG: wild goblins

v1.2.X "The Interaction Update"
Additions: added the Big Cats and Lap Dogs minimod
Additions: added Cryomancy as an "aborted" fort/adv magic school
Additions: added Pristinely Ungifted humans, Failed Hybrids, Frost giants, more elementals, more fiends, khezu
Additions: added more content from SPL Vanilla Expanded
Bugs: took measures to reduce problematic adventure mode interactions with invisibility
Interactions: gave Cave Fish Men the magic to teach Temporary NoBreathing and Cave Swallow Men the magic to teach Temporary Extravision
Entities: amphibian men are now a 3rd selection in the "level 2" cave civilizations.
Entities: enabled reactions for studying polymorphy (basic), cryo magic (necromancy), crafting the pyro focus, and crafting an icestorm basin to magic entities
Materials: made a bunch of changes to ensure that you can always train alchemy in the fort using the Magestaff
Bugs: great dragon, drake, chimera, philia - added "no heatdam" to materials to hoepfully stop red dragons from spontaneously melting
Bugs: fixed some remaining bugs with entity positions leaders. (Thanks VABritto)
Bugs: fixed a bug causing the dementia indoctrination spell to be un-usable
Bugs: death-dropping of foci was actually broken on most creatures. Fixed them to dissappear into smoke and leave the focus behind.

v1.1.1 "The Creature Class Update"
Many, many functional creature class changes to make the magic system and weakness/resistance consistent.

v1.1.X
"The Deep Caverns and Eldritch Update." See Readme for details.
Additions: Included voliol's various vivants 3.1 for some more mundane animals.
Additions: Conducted a major balance pass on the Magic system; all foci have alternate aquisition methods
Reactions: Reviewed and improved all reactions related to foci in the Magic system, adding alternate paths without simplifying, to standardize and reduce grind.

v1.0.3
"The Optional Files Update." See Readme for details.
Additions: Added 2 new glazes and 2 new flux stones (new uses of vanilla materials) from SPL / ex V9
Bugs: Removed non-functional entity "tyrant" positions; and others.

v1.0.2
Additions: Added pigeons.
Bugs: Fixed some. See Readme for details.

v1.0.1
"The Sorcery Fix." See Readme for details.

v1.0.0 Initial Release (See Blueprint)

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Release Features / Blueprint
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   1. "Raw changes you can't do without"
SI      Integrate Modest Mod and Revised fixes, and apply Revised content to other mods. This fixes a lot of vanilla bugs, and creatures have better descriptions and sounds.
VSR      fancy color stones get MATERIAL_VALUE:2 to reward creativity
VSR      flint swords
VSR/SI      flint picks
SI      added stone and metal display cases
MM      3 empty "generic"reactions for flexibility
SI      stone beds are available as a custom reaction (disabled by default - copy from reaction_highfantasy and paste over the empty Custom Reaction 1, 2, or 3, which all civs have)
MM      aquatic egg layers
MM      10x cave spider rarity
MM/Revised/SI   scales are leather; hoof/ivory is shell; chitin is bone; gut thread is silk
Warlord      tiny creatures like cats don't drop certain big body materials
Snaake      fixed: dwarves cant use 2h or foreign weapons bug (item_weapon, check sizes)
VSR      added training maces and hammers
VSR      added regeneration syndrome and better defense to inorganic construct men (elementals)
DEP      added some Dinosaurs and extinct creatures, like giant ground sloths
SI/DND/SPL/Adv   added many other fantasy megabeasts, like dragons, and creatures, like sirens
SI/SPL/Voliol   added many more real-world animals, like pigeons

   2. Classic high-fantasy civilizations with 1+ distinct feature
SI     2.a    Civilization plan
SI      Dwarf (tr)  Elf Human Mer      "Good" traders
SI      Goblin (tr) Orc Hob Sahuagin      "Snatcher" traders
SI      Kobold (tr) Lizalfos Halfling Gnomes   "Thief" but not traders, not searchable
SI      Naga, Angel               "Superbad"
SI      Lineage System (Half-elves, tiefling...)
SI      No outsiders except humans/nearhumans

SI     2.b More interesting underground civs, but still very primitive
SI      Civs: -primitive: Troglydyte, Gorlak, Mushroom, Manera
SI         -advanced: Cave Swallow, Cave Fish
SI         -made into aboveground civ: Lizard(-man), Snakeman(Naga)
SI      Give the second civ better armor/weapons/tech
SI      Moved aboveground: Rodent, Bat, Ant;
SI      Moved belowground: Rat, Worm, Mole-Rat (new)
SI      Wild creature only:           Amphibian Man; Olm Man, Bat, Rat, Ant
SI      Moved to full civ:          Lizalfos, Naga
SI      local pops & heroes ctrl:       gremlin; (also Faun, Satyr, Foul Blendec)
SI      adv controllable local pops only:    Troglydite; (also Siren, Harpy, Ogre)
SI      civ-joiner heroes only:       Cave Swallow, Cave Fish, Gorklaks, Manera, PLump Helmet Man
MM      lifespans: increase to min 18

SI   2.c Reorganization of the caverns to create a "prehistoric" layer while maintaining challenge curve
SI      Second cavern layer removed as a distinct, difficulty-transition layer.
SI      Third cavern layer moved up to the second cavern layer - including unique trees (Nether-cap, Blood thorn), vermin, and creatures.
SI         -if you see something that would have previously signaled "I'm in the third cavern layer," you're in the second.
Zm5/SI      Post-Third cavern layer added. Contains horrific ambominations of flesh
DEP/SI      -OR:Potentially contains hundreds of dinosaurs beyond the 30 found on the surface.
SI      -also contains spiders, dryders, and chaos witches.
SI      only gremlin, troll, elk bird + purring maggot had 1:3, now have 1:2
SI      fire creatures all moved to 4:4 (from 1:4 or 1:5) unless were 4:5 (magma crab)
SI      ***cavern layers controllable via config files
         
SI     2.d Make animal-person groups above-ground feel more special
SI/+      Set standardized armor sizes for all animal people!
SI      Moved to GOOD biomes (not Savage) to give giant animals room to breathe
SI      A small portion are (local_ctrl), meaning you can always play them; these are in line with Magic the Gathering classes for now
SI         -Eagle, Stork, Raven, Jackal, Fox, Frog, Lion, Cat(SI), Brown Bear, Elephant, Rhino, Mantis, Rat, Bat, Wolf, Crab, Hyena, Dog(SavDom), Horse (SavDom), Rabbit people, Salamander, Snake, Reptile, Lizard
SI      The rest are only (heroes), meaning you can play them if they join a full civilization
SI      Subt. animal people with their own civs don't follow these rules (Olm, Swallow, Fish, Amphibian)
         
     2.e Do something with Angels and divine materials
SI      Angels are a Snatcher+Thief civ
SI      Angels (Seraph) are a creature, based on Soldiers
SI      Spawn as their own civilization
SI         -Divine language, divine metals and clothing
SI         -Use GOOD animals
SI      Nephalim are a creature, based on RTR and file of angel_1
SI         -are GOOD animals but intelligent like trolls (involves slow learner)
SI      Angels can embark with any animal person
SI+EricBlank   Seraph can "summon" animal people, even ones missing from the world (solved by )

   3. Flesh out existing civ gameplay
     3.a Make all races and factions playable
SI      Playable Elves with Mythril
Brolol+Jake+SI   Playable Humans with Guns
SI      Bearded dwarf women
Brolol+SI   Playable Goblin tribes with diseases
SI      Goblins themselves are prolific with 4 creature variants (civ goblins, feral goblins, indentured assimilated "rival" goblins, and hobgoblins' goblin laborers)
SI      added 7 non-green goblin colors
MM/SI/Brolol   interesting food/drink requirements for goblinoids and slaves
SI      goblins 200 year max age, not immortal
SI      Playable/enemy hobgoblin legions
SI+Brolol   Playable/enemy naga slavers
SI      Playable/enemy orcs with orichalcum
SI      More orcs appear after deep dig by dwarves/gobs
SI      14 races have active seasons
SI      14 races have specific, staggered activity and siege timers; goblins are the earliest
SI      14 races have pack animals for trading as needed
SI      14 races have distinct Noble/Position names; are Capitalized except for squad members
SI      14 races' creatures have distinct Profession names
SI/I3erent   14 races have distinct Toys, with categories: Baby/Kid/Smart/Creature/People/Place
SI/Sver      14 races have selective weapons, armor, and armor qualities (normal-crude-rudimentary)
SI      14 races and even more creatures have bragging Speech files for killing all sentient races
SI      Many races have specific relgious SPHEREs leading to specific POWERs that like to take them over, eg kobolds worship dragons
VETG      Good, Evil, and Domestic veterinarian creatures allow healing of non-intelligent animals
     3.b
SI      Lineage system for playable tieflings, aasimar, etc without the IP-specific names
     3.c    
Jake/SI      Fully unlockable early firearm/gun weapon system
Sver      Effective ranged weapon sets that work in melee, and ranger armor
SI/Warlord    Toxic minerals to mine up + diseased versions of cavern animals = hazards for the character and the fort
Sver      Siege weapons - usueable some or all by dwarves, humans, hobgoblins, orcs, and of course angels
     3.d
RandomDra/SI   Better adventure mode gameplay, but without adding full adventure crafting (play fort mode if you want that)

   4. Add a magical counterbalance to Necromancy, but very toned down
EricBlank/SI-Wizardry   Study magic with a Grimoire to train in one of five schools, requiring a focus obtained in unique ways
EricBlank   -Sorcery    Innate magic awakened by certain encounters
EricBlank   -Summoning    An angel exlusive; unlock the deeper secrets of true summoning and hybridization
EricBlank   -5 Secrets    Supplements to wizardry, these map to the five schools, but also include Shadows (-mancer), Silence (anti-magic forces)
SI      -Balance magic to not be gamebreaking (by pushing wizardry back in the fort/adv tech trees)
SI      -No Free Lunch: all reactions that summon creatures or conjure things require both a Grimoire and a Planar Tome

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Polish and Bug "To-do List":
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In gameplay:
Interactions: Necromancer-created zombies are unusually tough vs vanilla and require time/luck to kill. (Investigating.)
Reactions: Altar gold bar reaction sometimes gives 150 items (Investigating)

Vanilla Bugs:
      -*food sale value is cheaty high
      -*armor/weapon rack doesn't work as storage
      -*Large predators dont attack if intelligent (?)
      -*generated beasts are too easy to sneak up on, need Observer (are intelligent)
      -*CAVE_SIMPLE civs cannot be played in fort mode, no matter what. To make them playable, they must become CAVE_COMPLEX. (effects Kobold, gnome; new cave_simple civs are lizal, hobbit)
      -^a few syndromes still don't work in adventure mode (add syndrome time /72 THEN [DWF_Stretch:72] for fort mode)
      -*any foe that hides in adventure mode becomes permanently invisible and basically unkillable (effects Oni)
      -^something causes auto "hostile" on subt. animal people creature file -large predator?
(*Cannot be fixed ^not worthwhile)   

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Design Philosophy:
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-Do what is most fun!
   -Preserve the feeling and design philophies of Vanilla
      for systems like weapons, armor, combat; farming; - don't break the utility of using the wiki
   -Make additions to the world that fit a Tolkien-esque fantasy setting,
      taking influence from other IPs but discarding IP-specific names and features often,
      just as Toady does with eg. generated demons/beasts/angels.
   -Document changes
   -Don't needlessly change many vanilla cosmetics like names
   -Be ready to remove things if (when!) Vanilla does them better
      eg dragons, animal people, magic, entities, siege, adventurers
   -Present a complete and bug-free experience to the user without dfhack

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Searching the raws:
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Most changes within files are offset by - SI - or -SI- (sorry!) as a searchable location

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Inspirations:
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   Toady&ThreeToe: Feeling of what is "vanilla," including procedural generation and excluding IP-specific names

   Tolkien: The majority of the mod
   Dark Souls: Limited Magic System; Chaos Witches (creature)      https://screenrant.com/dark-souls-magic-lore-pyromancy-sorcery-miracles-hexes/

   Magic TCG: Ixalan Merfolk (civ); Ravnica Nephilim (creature); Local_Ctrl Animal People; Primal (megabeast) dinos; Lurks Below eldrazi horrors and megabeast
   Dnd / Forgotten Realms: Hobgoblins; Lineage System; "wizards learn but sorcerers are born"
   Guild Wars: Krait as Naga interpretation (civ); Dark Gnomes civ; "except for Skales/Drakes/Elementals, calm biomes contain only mundane creatures"
   
   Nintendo: influences on hidden entities (Zora, Choza, Lizalfos)
   Harry Potter: Unicorn blood syndrome/interaction
   Game of Thrones: Shadowmancer secret
   Sword of Truth: Pristinely Ungifted humans
   Doctor Who: Silencer secret / order of silencers

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Data -> init
      [world_gen] advanced worldgen; (Not currently in use)
      [embark_profiles] 14-1=13 for civilized races (dwarf is vanilla)
      [d_init]
      [init]
      [interface] unknown
   Data -> Speech
      Speech: 14-2=12 for civilized races (dwarf/elf are vanilla) + jollygnome, half-fiend
      LairHunter: semi/megabeasts: lair_hunter_succubus.txt; balor; goro; marilith; demilich; empyrean; (No lair hunter for dragons, based on vanilla)
         +rodent man (skritt.txt), harpy, siren

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.00: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance; No DFHack. [47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on August 03, 2021, 04:54:55 pm

Playing the game and using new civilizations

Generating a world with all races: Using "number of civs: very high" should give all the civs as long as your world isn't "smallest".
   Every version of the mod also comes packed with one large generated world for that version, ready to go.
Selecting your starting civ: in fortress mode, the selected race is the one visible atop "Neighbors" list."
Embark: Every playable race is given a fleshed out default embark profile.
Forbidden tasks: If you can't build a necessary workshop, you must not have a unit with that labor turned on. EG elves, farming, "thresher"
Generic Reactions: No matter what version you are playing, you can always hotfix reactions using the "generic" reactions in the save file itself (not the main raws).

Civ Colors:

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Foreground color [0-7]
Background color [0-7] (skip)
Brightness of the foreground color [0 or 1]
0   0   Black
1   0   Blue         Gnome
2   0   Green         Lizardfolk
3   0   Cyan         Sahuagin
4   0   Red         Succubus; Cambion(disabled by default)
5   0   Magenta         Hob           
6   0   Brown         Kobold
7   0   Light grey      Halflings
0   1   Dark grey   8   Serpentfolk           
1   1   Light blue   9   Dwarf         Subterr. 1
2   1   Light green   10   Elf         Subterr. 2
3   1   Light cyan   11   Mer     
4   1   Light red   12   Orc         Subterr. 3 (disabled by default)
5   1   Light magenta   13   Goblin
6   1   Yellow      14   Angel; Amphib Man
7   1   White      15   Human

-------hUmans: (Incl. Tips from Brolol.404 and Jake)

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   You start with a lord or lady, who can appoint a steward, chamberlain, chancellor, physician, guard captain and seargent as needed.
   Assign 2 wood cutters/carpenters, 3 farmers and 1 animal handler (default in embark profile)
   > Start with the following buildings/areas: farm plots, sawmill, animal pasture, meeting area, temple zone, stockpiles.
   > Next build a village wall and a building for the lord/lady using wood blocks from the sawmill.
   Remember to plant crops early. If the biome freezes, you will need your harvest to last the winter or you will have to find another food source.
   A gunpowder industry takes a long time to set up, and the ingredients (sulfur and potash) may be easiest to import by trade

-------elves: (Incl. Tips from ARP)

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   Elves work by growing seeds into "bloomed" wood logs at a Shaper's workshop.
   Seeds: you can't start with them, so get them from plants. Use starting wood to make a still, carpenter, and crafting ("shaper") workshops. Set up a food stockpile. Designate plants for gathering. Eventually you'll be able to (b)rew drinks, and use the resulting seeds to grow woo(D). Try to turn off cooking for any seeds that can be brewed.
   One thing holding you up from creating drinks (->seeds->wood) might be lack of barrels. If your barrels are all filled with booze, start pushing out lavish meals. Elves provide the world with food and drink as their main exports.
   Trees growing in elf bases can be a problem since they wont cut them down. Use roads to block.
   Farming: elves don't use agricultural farming; they are gatherers. Build a farmer's workshop using a shearer, milker, etc
   Elves also don't mill, since they view seeds as babies.
   Elves have access to scale in worldgen, which functions as leather. It's more sustainable...
   Elves will recursively make mythril from mythril. Don't set functions to repeat; use workshops; micromanage
   Your grown bloomwood is still wood (hardcoded). Don't trade it to other elves, who for some reason don't trust your methods!
      However, you can fake feywood (metal) and they will accept this as trade.
   Caravans from good areas can bring sunberries for mythril. You or your elven civilization need access to good areas.
   elves don't use glass and stone, they use open air and wood; they can mine, but won't craft the ensuing stone.
   elves like decorating with gems, but won't cut them

-------mer: The spotlight civilization and inspiration for this mod!

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   Your first job is to build a kiln, followed by an aquitect's workshop. The kiln can be built from starting Clay or Charcoal.
   After you have a kiln, you can gather clay, and can use the clay to build an aquitect's workshop.
      -Alternatively, you can turn on carpentry, break your wagon, and build the AQ without a kiln.
   Mer are primarily fishers. Get fishing while you gather your clay.
      You can use some of your fish to cultivate coral or seaweed in the aquitect's works, with a Fish Dissector.
      You can also use (land) vermin or corpse remains to multiply your coral, if needed.
      You can easily see how much coral you have using the stocks -> tools
   Coral is used to make furniture, and gives mer happy thoughts. Seaweed is your source of beds.
      First make a carving knife, which lets you cut other coral. It's the only available edged tool.
   Merfolk can mine and make stone furniture, they just don't "craft" stone.
      Stone is still a useful building material for workshops and constructions (e.g. walls)
      If you find flint, you can make that into weapons or a pick; simple metals into crafts; and jade into furniture.
      Merfolk know jade especially well, and can easily make crafts from it; otherwise, 5% of all rough gems will be cut into a single craft or large gem
      cassiterite is crucially important; found in alluvial layers, it lets you glaze pottery
         You are also heavily pottery dependent. Make clay crafts.
   Merfolk can use their magic to work spare gold and platinum ores and jade at a Tidebinder's works
      ores fall into the economic stone category, and so must be designated for non-restricted use in the z-stone menu. (for gold and platinum)
   Trees growing in mer bases can be a problem since they wont cut them down. Use roads.
   Merfolk can use shells for shell furniture, but very expensive
   Weapons:
      besides precious metal blunt weapons at the tidebonder,
      merfolk can make a variety of traditional stone weapons at the craftsman's ("waker's") workshop.
      You can also carve a bone short sword or bow at the craftsman's workshop

-------goblins:----(includes tips from Hordes)

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   Kill wild animals to get bones. Carve them into furniture and items. You can also slaughter your rats.
   Your caputured rivals' labor is mostly useful for hauling or fighting. You can turn off hauling on your main goblins.
      Rival goblins need to drink, but not eat (rivals are denied food). Make sure you have a water source or you won't last the first winter.
   Goblins live in disease-ridden pits with rats and fleas, so expect a lot of status icons.
   If you're playing without any kind of automated labor, it's extremely important to start with skills eg animal skills, or else things like butchering rats won't work.
   Goblins get good thoughts from being around bone furniture, etc; not wood or stone.
      You can see how many bones you have from "body parts" in the Stockpiles.
   ethics such as "eat sapient" only plays its role during world generation, meaning you still won't get the option to butcher sapients in actual gameplay
   Goblins love to make and sell cheese, from the milk of female, diseased worgs. Note that due to a vanilla bug, (sentient?) pets like trolls can't be milked!
      Do note that such "gobbie cheese" is exceptionally unpalatable to non-goblinoid races, including orcs, kobolds, and dwarves, all who might obtain access to it.
      Non-diseased worgs make healthier "orc cheese," which doesn't upset anyone.
   For making poisons at the altar, the ALCHEMY skill token is set in the embark profile on Gob 3 (doctor).
      Alternatively, alchemist labor will need to be manually enabled.

-------hobGoblins:

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play similar to goblins, but gain access to human sawmills, etc for aboveground building, and matchlock pistol + arquebus guns
   The hobgoblin advantage is in their strong military (rather than the pellmell chaos of goblins or the raiding squads of orcs)
      Military positions are based on caste. Squad Leaders and Commanders can only be hobgoblins, not bugbears or goblins.     
   They also have access to many recently-extinct creatures as pets.   
   They are the only EVIL civ with non-crude armor, giving them an advantage.
   They also have access to orichalcum, a zinc+copper alloy made by infusing blood into the smelter, a better blunt weapon than silver (still not as good as strange mood platinum FWIW)
      You can get buckets of blood from the goblins' corpse still.

-------sahuagin:

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play the same as goblins, but trade slaves for sharks.
   Sahuagins have the advantage of being amphibious, and can work better in wet conditions than others.
   Sahuagins are the "edged only, no blunt" challenge civ.

-------Orcs:

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Orcs are the "siege" civilization. They have more siege (animals) than the competing human and dwarf civs.
      But they have crude armor.
   Orcs are also very large, and can use the biggest "great" weapons.
   Finally, orcs have some access to gunpowder (matchlock weapons), and steel,
      and get an advantage making charcoal from cutting trees.

------kobolds:

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Kobold Camp! Stone age. No smelting, but lots of crafting at the (K)obold workshop
      Scrap down invader metals, leathers, and clothes for raw materials.
      Refit invader armor to little Kobold size.
      Craft stray animal hair into clothes.
      Knap stones and gems into weapons.
      Ferment milk into Kumis - but watch out for diseased worgs!
      Keep your milkable animals alive despite the onslaught from *10* enemy races!   

------dark gnomes:

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Gnomes are the "no weapon or armor, only pets" challenge civ. Otherwise they are much like dwarves.
   There are four "Castes" of golem - Female and Male laborers, Big packbeasts/hunters, and Huge war-trainables.
   Although it is harder than "breeding" an army of golems, gnomes are also the only "thief" race to have access to wizardly magics

-------serpentfolk (naga):

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Build multiple aquitect's workshops;
      then use buckets of water to salvage for valuable flotsam and jetsam.
      You can get wood, metal, containers, even weapons this way, along with coin, crafts, and of course seaweed.
      Doing this trains the observer skill, making you better in combat.
   To fill buckets with water:
      -designate a pond zone over a water source with i -> p -> P -> f (should say "Full")
      -designate a second, invalid pond zone on dry land with i -> p -> P -> f (should say "Not Full")
   Your slave labor is only useful for hauling or fighting. You can turn off hauling on your main naga.
      Slaves need to drink, but not eat (slaves are denied food). Make sure you have a water source or you won't last the first winter.
   Naga are also amphibious and have a personal poison.
   Naga also get good thoughts from being around bone furniture and constructions.
   Naga also have access to human Sawmill/Quarry/Etc for efficient building, seeing as they have human slaves.
   Finally, naga can construct powerful and logic-defying harpoon guns out of all steel.

-------half-Angels:
Angels are the "debug civ" that can do pretty much everything (although they still have unique position tokens and toy list).

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Have the ability to use all the features and benefits of all others civilizations, so pick any one or two guides above to use as a base.
    and have a much stronger pet - the Nephilim,
    plus guaranteed unicorns/pegasi for high-value mats.
   The point of the angel civ is to let you summon animalpeople and all kinds of huge beasts to replenish them in your world.
      Note that animal men that are included in a worldgen angel site are NOT automatically added to either playable Adventure mode list - which is intended behavior.

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Playing adventure mode as a creature with a Lineage:

Lineage System overview:

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The Lineage System seeks to add DnD/Forgotten Realms -style "heritages" to DF:
   -Without using known and limiting IP names, such as "Tiefling"
   -Without losing the characteristics of the core race
   -While preserving a sense of mystery and surprise.

Each race in the heritage system uses a 200-point randomness system.
Generally, 190 out of every 200 creatures will be what's on the tin. Elf, Dwarf, Human.
5 out of every 200 will be a half-breed, such as a half-elf. You CAN distinguish them by name, physical features, and description, but they are the same as their core race except for a bit more adaptability (represented by skill gain).
1 out of every 200, respectively, will be what forgotten realms calls a "planetouched" creature.
   -Fey   
   -Shadow   
   -Fiend     
   -Celestial   
   -Elemental
But since this is DF, they aren't named "Aasimar", "Tieflings," and so on. You can imagine each society calls them something different.
   Instead, they're just named... human! (for example) And the tilesprite is the same!
   But if you look at the description, you can clearly see they have a different "heritage".
   And if you play one... or against one... you'll see they have some powers to match.

Dwarves, Humans, Elves, Mer; Orcs, Goblins; and Halflings all participate in the Heritage system.
Elves have an added chance to have a DF-inspired take on Drow, since we all love Drow, but again without the IP language;
   Elves also have much higher proportions of fey-inspired children than other races - think of them as Wild elves.

Creatures that can have Lineages: Humans, Dwarves, Elves, Mer, Orcs, Goblins, and Halflings
Creatures that have non-lineage Special Castes: Hobgoblins, Sahuagins, Half-Angels and -Fiends, Great Dragons, River Drakes, Dragonfolk, Chimeras, Hybrids, Succubi, Lamias, Centaurs
Adventure mode Special Mentions: Lizardfolk are completely immune to most poisons and diseases. Naga are immune to psychic powers. Elves are immortal. Goblins don't eat or drink. Djinn follow the same advantages as elemental lineages (below).
Non-Civ playable adventurers: Animalmen; Harpies / Sirens; Ogres; Oni; Fauns / Satyrs; Nymphs/Dryad-likes; Jotun; Half-fiends; Shapeshifters; Wildmen; Stalkers; Dragonfolk; Psions; Naga; Aetherials; Redcaps; Gorgons; Blemmyes; Djinn; Dark Dwellers; Corroders

Starting as a Lineage caste in adventure mode:

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Select one of the seven creatures with a lineage system. Press "g" to change the "caste" (gender). It will always cycle through the options in the same order, although it's random whether the first option is default male or default female. You can tell where you are in the list because the Half-races do NOT have disguised name, so they are like a bookmark for where you are in the list. Here's the order:

Human: Human m/f HalfHuman m/f Ungifted m/f Fey Lineage m/f Shadow Lineage m/f Aasimar m/f Tiefling m/f Air Genasi m/f
Dwarf: Dwarf m/f HalfDwarf m/f Fey Lineage m/f Shadow Lineage m/f Angel Lineage m/f Maeluth m/f Duergar m/f
Elf:   Elf m/f   Halfelf m/f Drow m/f WildElf m/f Shadar-kai m/f Celadrin m/f Fey'ri m/f
Mer: Mer m/f HalfMer m/f Fey Lineage m/f Shadow Lineage m/f Angel Lineage m/f Merrow m/f Water Lineage m/f
Goblin: Goblin m/f HalfGoblin m/f Fey Lineage m/f Shadow Lineage m/f Angel Lineage m/f Demon Lineage m/f Fire Lineage m/f
Orc: Orc m/f HalfOrc m/f Uruk Tanarukk m/f
Halfling: Lightfoot m/f Stout m/f D'hin'ni m/f Wispling m/f

So Dwarves, Mer, and Goblins are identical; Humans and Elves have an additional unaspected lineage, though elves lack an elemental lineage; and Orcs and Halflings have condensed options.

Guide to lineage advantages:

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These apply to lineage creatures.

Half/Near: Not disguised! Shows "half" in its creature name, unlike the others. Better skill gain.
Fey: Weak low-light vision, immune to polymorphy magic. Weak to good old-fashion iron. Entangling vine spell.
Shadow: Strong low-light vision, immune to hexing magic. Invisibility and negative energy spells.
Celestial: Mild low-light vision, immune to divine magic, immune to some reanimation magic. Defense and anti-evil spells.
Demonic: Mild low-light vision, immune to some pyromancy magic, weak to anti-evil bolts. Blindness and torment-bolt spells.
Elemental: Immunity to aether magic, and additional advantages by type - See below.

Guide to elemental advantages:

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These apply to lineage creatures, djinn, and elementals themselves. Combined elementals get the advantages of each parent elemental. (Elementals aren't playable, but it's a useful reference when fighting them).

All: Mild low-light vision, do not need to breathe air, immune to some reanimation magic. Corresponding elemental spell attack.
Earth: Petrify Immune
Fire: Fire Immune
Water: Cold Immune
Air: Shock Immune

Elemental creatures: All have a bodylimb regeneration skill to keep them in combat a bit longer. Remember that they are also one of only 3 (types of) magical creatures that can spawn in mundane biomes.

Elemental creature combinations: (Surface, Underground)
(S) Ice elemental: Water, Air
(S) Vacuum elemental: -Air
(S) Water elemental
(S) Air elemental
(S) Salt elemental: -Water
(S) Energy elemental: -Fire
(S) Steam elemental: Water, Fire
(S) Smoke elemental: Fire, Air
(S) Dust elemental: Air, Earth
(U) Earth elemental
(U) Fire elemental
(U) Blood elemental: +Water
(U) Crystal elemental: -Earth
(U) Magma elemental: Earth, Fire
(U) Metal elemental: +Earth
(U) Mud/Tar elemental: Earth, Water
Aetherial: this creature is a "pure magic" elemental
Gargoyle: this non-elemental creature is nonetheless "earth-aspected."
Oread, Neriad: these fey creatures are nonetheless "water-aspected."
Air beast: this non-elemental creature is nonetheless "air-aspected."
Dragons, Chimeras, Drakes, Dragonfolk: these creatures are aspected to one of the four elements, with poison and acid belonging to "earth."

The underground elementals are all useful for replenishing the resources of your fort, while the surface elementals (1 per mundane biome) are sources of aether foci. Be careful - all of them fight back.

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The Weapons of Highfantasy

Highfantasy balances all weapons so that nothing is "overpowered." Thanks to Sver's Combat Evolved, everything hits about the same, even new weapons like the Kusarigama and Ahtlatl and tools like the ladle. The exceptions occur with weapons that are created after a long or challenging tech tree, meaning the guns (see below) and the magestaff, which trains wizard skills.
Highfantasy reduces the damage done by unarmed strikes. Using the work of a couple mod authors, including Warlord's Vanilla Spice Revised, unarmed strikes are weaker, and most weak humanoid creatures won't use strong bites or scratches in combat either. However, overall body integrity is a bit stronger, with some organs healing faster and some joints toughened. The full joint rework from Sver is not included, due to invalidating too much of the vanilla wiki.
Highfantasy includes ranged weapon sets so your warriors will never club with their crossbows again. Unless you tell them to, of course. Otherwise, they'll go out armed with a "set of arms" such as a crossbow and mace, and attack with the mace when needed. Of course, you can always still craft ranged weapons by themselves if you see a need.

Guide to ranged weapon sets:

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   crossbows (minsize 20000) and arbalests (minsize 15000) are small enough for kobolds
   WANDERER_ARMS_SVER] crossbow + hatchet
   CROSSBOWMAN_ARMS_SVER] crossbow + parrying dagger
   SKIRMISHER_ARMS_SVER] crossbow + short sword
   HIGHWAYMAN_ARMS_SVER] crossbow + mace
   SCOUT_ARMS_SVER] crossbow + war cleaver
   ARBALESTER_ARMS_SVER] arbalest + parrying dagger
   SHARPSHOOTER_ARMS_SVER] arbalest + battle axe
   TRENCHMAN_ARMS_SVER] arbalest + war hammer
   [HUNTER_ARMS_SVER] arbalest + war cleaver
   MARKSMAN_ARMS_SVER] arbalest + large dagger
      BOLTS]  =VANILLA=
      BOLTS_BROAD_SVER]
      BOLTS_BLUNT_SVER]

   bows (minsize 38000), recurve bows (minsize 60000), spear-throwers (minsize 45000) are too big for kobolds
   longbows (minsize 70000) are too big for dwarves
   slings are small enough for most races (minsize 6000)
   TRAPPER_ARMS_SVER] bow + hatchet
   BOWMAN_ARMS_SVER] bow + parrying dagger
   WOODSMAN_ARMS_SVER] bow + bearded axe
   STAKESMAN_ARMS_SVER] bow + maul
   ADVENTURER_ARMS_SVER] bow + longsword
   RANGER_ARMS_SVER] longbow + war knife
   YEOMAN_ARMS_SVER] longbow + short sword
   LINEBREAKER_ARMS_SVER] longbow + war hammer
   FORESTER_ARMS_SVER] longbow + hawk axe
   LONGBOWMAN_ARMS_SVER] longbow + large dagger
   RAVAGER_ARMS_SVER] recurve bow + morningstar
   NOMAD_ARMS_SVER] recurve bow + scimitar
   GUARD_ARMS_SVER] recurve bow + horned axe
   AMBUSHER_ARMS_SVER] recurve bow + large dagger
   CHARGER_ARMS_SVER] recurve bow + estoc
      ARROWS]  =VANILLA=
      ARROWS_BROAD_SVER]
      ARROWS_CRESCENT_SVER]

   SPEAR_SLING_SVER] sling + short spear
   RUSTLER_ARMS_SVER] sling + morningstar
   WATCHMAN_ARMS_SVER] sling + bladed spear
   BILLMAN_ARMS_SVER] sling + dagger-axe
   POACHER_ARMS_SVER] sling + mace
   SLINGER_ARMS_SVER] sling + short sword
   ROGUE_ARMS_SVER] sling + large dagger
      SLING_BULLETS_SVER]
      SLING_BOULDERS_SVER]

   JAVELINMAN_ARMS_SVER] spear-thrower + spear
   MILITIA_ARMS_SVER] spear-thrower + spiked staff
   RAIDER_ARMS_SVER] spear-thrower + battle axe
   LANCER_ARMS_SVER] spear-thrower + heavy spear
   COMPANION_ARMS_SVER] spear-thrower + war cleaver
   MONSTERSLAYER_ARMS_SVER] spear-thrower + falx
   BEASTHUNTER_ARMS_SVER] spear-thrower + great cleaver
      JAVELINS_SVER]
      WAR_DARTS_SVER]

      HB_BOLTS_SVER] ammo is fine as is
      HB_BALLS_SVER]

   BLOWGUN]  =VANILLA=
      BLOWDARTS]  =VANILLA=

Guide to new armor sets:

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Highfantasy sticks to the vanilla definitions of armor and clothing so as not to invalidate information on the wiki. However, there are a few new inclusions.

First, shields have been expanded to include three new types.
   [SHIELD:ITEM_SHIELD_BUCKLER]  =VANILLA=
   [SHIELD:ITEM_SHIELD_SHIELD]  =VANILLA=
   [SHIELD:ITEM_SHIELD_MEDIUM_SVER]
   [SHIELD:ITEM_SHIELD_LARGE_SVER]
   [SHIELD:ITEM_SHIELD_TOWER_SVER]

Second, special armor has been provided to make ranged combat units more mobile yet well-covered.
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_PLATE_ARCHER_SVER:COMMON]  =SVER_ARCHER_ARMOR=
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_HALF_ARCHER_SVER:COMMON]  =SVER_ARCHER_ARMOR=
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_MAIL_ARCHER_SVER:COMMON]  =SVER_ARCHER_ARMOR=
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_MAIL_VEST_ARCHER_SVER:COMMON]  =SVER_ARCHER_ARMOR=

Finally, nonstandard armor has been provided to spice up most invaders.
   CRUDE ARMOR is used by orcs and other evil invaders. It is heavy but made from fewer pieces of metal. It also includes the new clothing items NECKLACE, CULOTTE, and SOUTIF. Beware, Hobgoblins wear normal, powerful armor still!
   RUDIMENTARY ARMOR is used by kobolds, who are just doing the best they can with melted-down and reforged scraps.

Guide to new materials:

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Highfantasy introduces a few noteworthy new materials.
BLACK STEEL is an alternative to steel for steel-makers with access to different ores. (SPL)
WHITE GOLD is an alternative to platinum for steel-makers with access to different ores.

ORES OF COAL AND IRON may release toxic particles when mined. (VSR)
GOETHITE is an iron-bearing ore present in swampy biomes.

REALGAR, ORPIMENT, ARSENOLITE, ARSENOPYRITE, and FLUORAPATITE are rocks which must be hazardously extracted. (HF)
PHOSPHORITE is a rock-based but dangerous fertilizer alternative that does not require burning trees.
APATITEs (various colors) are beautiful gems found in clusters of phosphorite.

COLD IRON is an alternative to iron that is strangely effective against fiendish foes. (tbDND)
LUCID IRON is a similar substance that has outsized power against psyionic creatures.

BLOOMWOOD is a wood substitute made by the elves, although other elves may pretend not to recognize it. (ARP)
FEYWOOD is weapon-grade metallic wood made using a catalyst by elf adventurers who set off into the world. (ADV)

MYTHRIL is the second-sharpest metal, crafted by elves using their strange magics. (HF)
ORICHALCUM is the second-hardest metal, crafted by hobgoblins as they prepare for war.

AETHER is the essence of magic itself, and can be found in many forms, including pure, metallic, and salts and residues used in research. (Spell)
HOLYWOOD is the essence of divinity, and can be used to smite evil foes.

Guide to Gun Manufacturing:

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Not every civilization can make and use guns, and no map will have every necessary material.
   There are two main processes involved, making the weapons and making the ammunition, within the three dedicated firearms workshops. The exception is gunpowder, which you'll probably only be making intermittently.

   There is a progression system based on what you have access to.
      No steel                     Arquebus or Matchlock, using brass match lock
      Steel, no flinty mats and/or gunpowder   Spring-guns
      Steel, no paper                  Blunderbuss / Dragoon
      All mats                     "Best" guns
   
   To make a gun, you need a lock, a stock, and a barrel. Bayonets are optional and can be added later.
   The required materials are:
   Matchlocks                        Steel OR Brass* + potash OR saltpeter   + cloth      *hardened
   Springlocks (makes guns that don't take gunpowder)   Steel
   Wheellocks (functions as Firelock)            Steel      + pyrite
   Firelocks                           Steel      + striker
      Striker                                    flint OR chert OR agate

   Large Stock / 2 Small Stocks            1 log      
   Long Barrel / 2 Short Barrels            1 metal bar            

   Arquebus**                  1 Matchlock (L)   1 Large Stock   1 Long Barrel
   Spring-gun*                  1 Springlock(L)   1 Large Stock   1 Long Barrel
   Rifle, Musket, Hand mortar, Fowling piece^, Blunderbuss: 1 Firelock (L)   1 Large Stock   1 Long Barrel

   Matchlock Pistol**               1 Matchlock (S)   1 Small Stock   1 Short Barrel
   Small spring-gun*               1 Springlock(S)   1 Small Stock   1 Short Barrel
   Pistol, Bladed pistol, Carbine         1 Firelock (S)   1 Small Stock   1 Short Barrel
   
   * These weapons can be made with copper barrel. All others are restricted to iron, bronze or steel.
   ** These weapons can be made with copper barrel by dwarves only. All others are restricted to iron, bronze or steel.
   ^ Aka a shotgun, this one weapon accepts two different ammos.
   
   Strikers | Stocks | Guns   are assembled in the Assembly Workbench using Weaponsmithing.
   Barrels  | Locks           are made at the Gunsmith's forge using Metalcrafting.
   
   Firelocks and spring-locks can be bought from the caravans in boxes, which can be opened at the Workbench using the Striking skill. There's a 95% chance you'll get a wooden chest free out of this reaction, but occasionally it'll break. Each box contains six large or ten small locks of the type you bought.
   
   Ammunition is a two-step process, at least for gunpowder arms. The first step is to make a batch of gunstones or buck/birdshot at the Ammunition Mint, using the Metalcrafting labour. These can be made of quite literally any metal, although there are separate reactions for lead, iron and copper. Shot made from lead or other mostly-useless metals like tin or zinc will reliably kill or incapacitate through leather. Gunstones can be fired from spring guns by themselves, but if you want a bit more bang for your dwarfbuck you'll need to combine them with some paper and a sack of gunpowder at the Workbench with the Bookbinding skill.
   
   As for gunpowder itself, you will require the following: 2 blocks of coal or charcoal, 8 blocks of saltpeter or potash, 1 boulder of brimstone and ten empty bags. This is the only BPFA reaction to take place at the Smelter, using furnace operating.

   Militia squads, including the default "leather armor" uniform, will not assign themselves cartridge ammo to carry. You must manually add the right ammo in the military supplies ammo screen.

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The Pursuit of Knowledge

Magic is an endgame system in Highfantasy. To start as a wizard, you need a grimoire (a spellbook), which you can make or buy, but crafting this grimoire requires a light yellow diamond - meaning you'll have to wait until you mine or trade one to get going with your scholarly studies. Even the grimoire only lets you study magic in general, to learn three weak spells. To proceed any farther, you'll need a focus.
Magic comes from many sources. Magic can be studied as a wizard in fort or adventure mode. It can be given or stolen as a secret from a secret-keeper. It can be unlocked through an encounter with a sorcerous being. A few magical creatures can even gift unique magic spells just for encountering them; these include Aetherials, Chaos Witches, and Cave Fish and Cave Swallow people.

Activating the Alchemy skill

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The magestaff is a magical weapon that activates and trains the user's ALCHEMY skill, used for wizardly reactions.
   The magestaff is now created through specific reactions only, at the wizard workshop (or by an adventurer), using ENCRUSTGEM and a rough gem. This also helps rebalance it as an "elite" weapon like guns.
   Charges for the magestaff are now created through specific reactions only, at the wizard workshop (or by adventurers), using CUTGEM and a rough gem. Sometimes, you'll fail to create a charge, but transmute a light diamond instead.
The wizard workshop building, like the magestaff, is built using any rough gem, so that the building itself can be constructed early on....but you won't get much farther in your magical studies until you craft a grimoire.
Gems are easy enough to find in fort mode, and in adventure mode, characters now have the option to scavenge for them. This can get you started building a magestaff and workshop. Gems have more uses than ever!

   *gnome "magitek" boost - dark gnomes (and angels) can craft magestaffs and charges out of any material, and can embark with them, without needing to use the wizard's workshop.

Diamond in the rough

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Two ingredients are needed to craft a grimoire (spellbook): aether salt and a light diamond.
In both fort and adventure mode, there are many ways to produce aether salt, including some which are slow but free.
After that, you'll need to find the diamond to proceed. Not everyone wants to wait for a lucky mining strike, trade opportunity, or loot pile theft, so keep in mind that you can sometimes transmute a diamond from any other gem using "Create Spell Charges" in both modes.
With these shortcuts available, there's no need to waste all your points on a grimoire in adventure mode!
Also of note, studying magic creates a lot of aether salt and occasionally some aether residue. Normally, the only use for aether residue is to reduce it back into salt. But after you have a grimoire, you can use the reaction "Contaminants of Stones" with both aether salt and residue to gradually create all the diamonds you'll ever need!

Finding your wizardly Focus

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To learn the 5 schools of magic, you’ll need to find their Focus.
Every reaction that has a change to create a focus is clearly labeled with the success chance.
      The Aether Focus is created 1% when studying general magic (DF and ADV). Alternatively, kill any Elemental.
      The Pyromancy Focus is created 1% while making fireball basin (DF and ADV). Alternatively, kill a Chaos Witch in the lava sea.
      The Miracle Focus is created 2-3% while using altar (DF) or shrine (ADV). Alternatively, kill an Empyrean megabeast.
      There is no Necromancy Focus, but necromantic ice spells can be studied by resonating two aether foci together.
      The Bestiary is created 1% when summoning pets*    (DF and ADV). Alternatively, kill a Chimera or a Chimeric Hybrid semimegabeast.
      The Hexing Focus is created 1% when summoning demons*      (DF and ADV). Alternatively, kill a Hollow One in the deep caverns.
      *Requires a planar tome. The Planar Tome  is created 1% while making aether residue (DF and ADV). Alternatively, kill an Aetherial.
Of course, you can buy these Foci from merchants, but one focus costs as much as 10 excellent weapons, so there are choices to make.
All spells are learned by eating their magical “essence” after making it.
The half-angel civilization has the ability to take planar summoning even farther by bringing forth even more powerful, deadly beasts.

List of Spells

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As of v1.3.00,
Studying in general has 3
Aetherial wizardry has 8, and others from becoming a sorcerer, and others from the silence secret
Miracle wizardry has 16, plus 4 more learned instantly from study accidents, and more from the channeling secret
Pyromancy wizards have 3, but the pyromancy secret has more, and there's a spell exclusively learned from chaos witches
Necromancy wizards have 3, but of course the necromancy secret is a rich wealth of knowledge
Polybestia wizards have 16 (elves/angels/adventurers) / 6 (Dwarves) /  4 (others), and more from the druid secret
Dementia wizards have 5, and more from the shadowmancy secret, but studying dementia may be fatal! (Fort mode only)

It should take about the same amount of studies (~100) to get all essences in each school.

Secrets and their Tutelage

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Learning a secret unlocks the character's inner power. Secrets can be found from one or more learning sources. Secrets and sorcery all change the title of the character, while wizardly studies do not. The names of secret keepers and their sources are:
   Sorcery* (pure)                                        encounters
   Channeler (divine)                                     gods, masters, slabs
   [Necromancer]                                         [gods, masters, slabs]
   Pyromancer (fire)                                       gods, masters, slabs
   Druid (polybestia)                                      gods, masters, slabs
   Shadowmancer (shadows/unnatural birth)   gods, masters, slabs
   Silencer (antimagic)                                   gods, masters, slabs; research (does not work in current vanilla version)

Sorcery is the gift of using pure aetherial magic without studying as a wizard. Sorcery is unlocked through an encounter with a magical being; these include dryads, carp men, frost giants, and summoned pet familiars. Sorcery can also be "forced" by ingesting a sorcery potion, made by a wizard.

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Delving deep into the world below

Highfantasy is highly consistent with surface spawning. The foes that appear are evenly distributed across appropriate biomes.

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Every biome contains exactly one elemental, one or more intelligent humanoid, and one or more rare, prehistoric mammal like a Mega Armadillo.
Every savage biome contains wild goblins, giant animals, and at least one magical large predator if non-tropical.
Every evil biome contains feral goblins, generic ghouls n ghosts, and at least one evil large predator.
Every good biome contains failed hybrids, animalmen, and (due to scarcity) the same set of unicorn+faun+mermaid+ wild magical creatures.

Drakes and skales, though magical, can spawn in mundane biomes; they are "commonplace."
Dinosaurs spawn in "primoridal" (savage tropical) biomes with distinct food chains based on evolutionary eras. The predator spawns only when the prey spawns, and the prey spawns only with the right plant.

Highfantasy reorganizes the caverns. One of only two big changes to vanilla wiki information, everything in cavern layer three has been "moved up" to layer two.
   Functionally, nothing is lost, since layer two was a "transition layer" with a combination of layer 1 and layer 3 creatures.
   This change can be easily reversed by using the optional version c_variation_highfantasy file, located in the optional files, without locking you out of the new creatures.
   (The other big vanilla wiki change is that animal men spawn in "good" biomes, not "savage." This is part of the mod story and also helps greatly with savage biome diversity.)
Cavern plant-life has not been changed. The following descriptions use the colors as currently previewed for the Premium release.

Layer One: The Moss-covered Cavern

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Just like in vanilla, this early cavern layer contains the sort of simple creatures that adventures might be hired to stop from raiding village cellars. It also contains a few fungal beasties that lovers of cleanliness had best avoid.

Layer Two: The Twisting Passages

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Like the vanilla layer three, these dark spaces contain hulking creatures that the local ruler would probably send their best knights down to kill, and is not for the faint of heart. Among these brutes are the bosses of the fungal creatures above.

Layer Three: The Deep Darkness

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Here in the quiet depths, danger lurks around every corner. Among the empty chasms creep horrifying creatures that only great heroes and wizened mages would dare battle, including dryders and corroders. But the true danger lies in the murky pools, from which eldritch horrors emerge to scout the lands above.
The eldritch creatures, from "What Lurks Below" by ZM5, include:
-predators (two-word creatures ending in -er, like "flesh harvester")
-minions (one-word creatures referencing the predators, like "fleshworm")
-bosses (the Hollow One, Amalgamated One, and Dessicated One)

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.00: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance; No DFHack. [47.05]
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on August 03, 2021, 06:40:57 pm

This certainly looks like an ambitious mod project with lots of intriguing features (had me at "siege engines", really). I'll definitely be trying it at some point, but probably not until I get bored of the vanilla worlds I'm currently playing in.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.00: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance; No DFHack. [47.05]
Post by: Enemy post on August 03, 2021, 08:26:55 pm

Hey cool, I've been waiting for this to be released! Thanks for including my mods.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.00: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance; No DFHack. [47.05]
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on August 03, 2021, 11:26:33 pm

I'm pretty sure the answer to this question is "yes" because you seem pretty dedicated to keeping the vanilla experience intact and just expanding upon it but I'll ask anyway just in case: the vanilla "vault" angels are still a thing alongside this new angel civ, right?

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.00: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance; No DFHack. [47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on August 04, 2021, 09:10:25 am

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Thanks for including my mods.

It's a pleasure to spotlight your great work!

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I'm pretty sure the answer to this question is "yes" because you seem pretty dedicated to keeping the vanilla experience intact and just expanding upon it but I'll ask anyway just in case: the vanilla "vault" angels are still a thing alongside this new angel civ, right?

Yes!
-Vault angels still exist in vaults, with slabs, as all three generated castes (soldier worker general). Think of these as the literal Angels.
-Occasionally a powerful angelic being gets outside the vaults, making an aboveground megabeast (Empyreon, children of gods)
-The angel civ are "half-angels." They are as if the vault angels went out and "met" the mortal races, and made a civ.
-The "angelic lineage" human, etc civ members are even more distant, but have useful powers.... like they had a half-angel ancestor.

Demons work similarly.
-Vanilla demons still exist in the underworld, with both generated unique, generated non-unique, and a few populations of HF demons.
-Occasionally a powerful demon gets outside the underworld, making an aboveground megabeast (lesser marilith or balor)
-Instead of a demon civ there is a wild population of "half-demons". They are as if a few demons while aboveground "met" the mortal races. They join civs like animalmen.
-The "demonic lineage" human, etc civ members are even more distant, but have useful powers.... like they had a halfdemon ancestor.

Two sides of the same coin, indeed!

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.00: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance; No DFHack. [47.05]
Post by: Atkana on August 05, 2021, 01:51:49 am

So after playing around a little bit in adventure mode I've got a couple of questions:

• What's metallic aetherium? DFhack reports that it's quite similar to iron, but it's incredibly cheap (I think it has the default material modifier of 1). It kinda meant it was very easy to outfit my adventurer :P
• Is there something special you're supposed to do to kill zombies with the mods in this pack, or is it just an unintentional result of the gameplay changes that they seem practically unkillable? I spent almost a whole ingame day just fighting a group of zombies, and didn't manage to kill a single one. Slashes to the neck to try and behead them would be deflected by whatever ragged clothing they were wearing, and the best that blunt blows to the head would do was bruising the skin/fat and maybe twisting a ligament or damaging a facial feature, never pulping. In an admittedly kinda cool sounding struggle, I was constantly wrestling new weapons from their hands to get something new to try and bash their heads in or cut their heads off, the weapons quickly breaking apart and leaving the zombies unscathed (I think the durability thing is a tool-weapon problem). I even climbed the tower to grab a gold statue in hopes that it was heavy enough to bash their heads in, but it wasn't. Q.Q

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.00: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance; No DFHack. [47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on August 05, 2021, 09:59:55 am

Hey Atkana! Forwarning that I'm not super experienced with adventure mode gaming, so this is very helpful to me.

Metallic Aetherium:

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The magic system, which is a vertical progression system (even more so in Fort mode than in Adv mode, although the trees look almost identical), occasionally leads to transmutation or new items; ie, "this magical research cost me Aether Salt, and I didn't get the result I was expecting, but I did get this metal item." When you get new items here, there's often made of an aether material instead of a given vanilla material, to show they've been magically summoned. Enter Metallic Aetherium.
However it should have a material modifier higher than 1 I'll fix that on the next pass.

Killing zombies:
I'm a bit stumped on this one - let's gather some more data!

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-What kind of being were you? Human? Harpy? etc
-What kind of zombies were you fighting - necromancer-summoned or shadowmancer-summoned thralls? Or some kind of unrelated creature like ghouls?
-Did you see anything different in the combat logs referring to special abilities, like, did they somehow have regeneration?
-Did you only fight with villager tool-weapons, or what other weapons did you try with?
-Any idea what materials their clothes were made out of? (IIRC, Highfantasy doesn't mess with vanilla clothing at all)
--On the subject of clothes, did they happen to be listed as "crude" (goblin, etc) or "rudimentary" (kobold)?
-We did reduce the damage from biting and scratching, and maybe the force multiplier for punches and kicks if a weaker race (human)

Next question, has anyone gone up against an undead force in fort mode and do you have similar trials? I'll be watching out for this myself!

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.00: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance; No DFHack. [47.05]
Post by: Atkana on August 05, 2021, 12:18:42 pm

Quote from: kiiranaux on August 05, 2021, 09:59:55 am

Killing zombies:
I'm a bit stumped on this one - let's gather some more data!
-What kind of being were you? Human? Harpy? etc
-What kind of zombies were you fighting - necromancer-summoned or shadowmancer-summoned thralls? Or some kind of unrelated creature like ghouls?
-Did you see anything different in the combat logs referring to special abilities, like, did they somehow have regeneration?
-Did you only fight with villager tool-weapons, or what other weapons did you try with?
-Any idea what materials their clothes were made out of? (IIRC, Highfantasy doesn't mess with vanilla clothing at all)
--On the subject of clothes, did they happen to be listed as "crude" (goblin, etc) or "rudimentary" (kobold)?
-We did reduce the damage from biting and scratching, and maybe the force multiplier for punches and kicks if a weaker race (human)

Next question, has anyone gone up against an undead force in fort mode and do you have similar trials? I'll be watching out for this myself!

As far as I am aware, they're normal zombies without any abilities, with the tower-dweller being called a necromancer, so it's possible that they're just vanilla zombies. I was a naga, who wasn't very well equipped for zombie fighting - just a spear, no big edged weapons or bludgeoning weapons - so that's why I was quite reliant on using their items to fight. In one of the screengrabs of the log, a slash from an iron noble sword, and a cut from an iron smallsword were both deflected by a dark gnome corpse's xsmall giant kakapo leather dressx.

After loading up my save and spawning in a jagged steel sword (a generated weapon?) I managed to behead a straggling zombie, and also managed to bash another's head in with their own Cryolite Sledgehammer after 3 heavy bashes. Though then going on to fight another with regular heavy punches and shield bashes yielded no results. It's entirely possible that some degree of luck is involved with this, as the usual raised zombies do get a really high toughness boost.

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I realised as a better test, I should try things out in arena, which makes it easy to compare to vanilla. Using my newly-patented goblin-armed-with-an-iron-shortsword-standard (I know those weapons technically vary between the pack and vanilla, though) I tested how long it took for them to kill an unarmed goblin animated corpse. In the modpack it takes much longer than in vanilla (where fights usually only take a couple of seconds) for the goblin to kill the zombie (if they even manage that). Just to make sure it wasn't anything generally modpack related, I tested fights against 2 regular (non-animated) combatants, and their fights go as quickly as vanilla ones.

(All the extra magic effects made them hard to select, but I'm pretty sure I correctly managed to select a vanilla necromancer's "Animated corpse" in both instances)

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.00: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance; No DFHack. [47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on August 06, 2021, 09:48:13 am

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TL;DR - zombie toughness is currently higher is highfantasy, requiring greater time and some luck to kill them. Other combat is fine.

I'm not finding anything that explains this well. I know that Highfantasy nerfs unarmed strikes (especially scratch/bite), and that there are a few code interactions that might have made zombies stronger. Combined, I think you just have to go for those weapon strike critical hits. (Unless I think of something else).

However I'm relieved to hear it's not a general combat problem, that would have been a crisis! This is exactly why I avoided modders' changes to joints and to armor coverage - it's just a completely different combat at that point.

And yes, jagged steel sword would be a vanilla, generated weapon.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.00: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance; No DFHack. [47.05]
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on August 06, 2021, 03:31:21 pm

So really liking your mod so far, and what's more...think I have the honour of reporting the first bug.

I noticed while testing some things in arena mode that some of your creatures have the "nothing" placeholder name, which in my experience generally happens when a creature lacks individual caste names. You might want to go into the raws and double-check them all.

Otherwise, great stuff! Think I'll be playing this mod for a long time.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.00: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance; No DFHack. [47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on August 06, 2021, 04:03:57 pm

Thanks Plump,

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I noticed while testing some things in arena mode that some of your creatures have the "nothing" placeholder name

-snip- (incorrect analysis)

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.00: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance; No DFHack. [47.05]
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on August 06, 2021, 04:26:53 pm

I mean it shows up in legends mode as well, which is why I went into the arena to figure out which creatures it was affecting.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.00: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance; No DFHack. [47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on August 06, 2021, 05:11:58 pm

Ah, I see! Would you post a screenshot? The context of the screenshot could help a lot with identifying who's missing their name.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.00: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance; No DFHack. [47.05]
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on August 06, 2021, 06:08:53 pm

I can't right now unfortunately, but I'll do so at my earliest convenience (probably tomorrow at some point).

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.00: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance; No DFHack. [47.05]
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on August 06, 2021, 09:02:56 pm

I know just off-hand that the Calamity megabeasts are affected by the bug, but I'll report any others to you as well.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.00: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance; No DFHack. [47.05]
Post by: Slots on August 07, 2021, 05:12:41 am

Here is a legends mode of a bunch of nothings.

(https://i.imgur.com/SlJUvyX.png)

Things to note however: I installed ontop of a LNP install with DFHack and the Meph+Vordak tileset enabled. Don't know if that would mess with anything related to to this.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.0.1: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance. (Major) [47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on August 07, 2021, 11:28:14 am

Version 1.0.1 is live!
This version addresses the name issues identified by Plumphelmetman and Slots. Thank you! Other polish is included.
This version does not introduce any changes that would substantially necessitate a new world if already invested.
Only ~10 raw files, plus the readme docs, were changed; sorting raws by date (Aug 6 + Aug 7) will show those and save a full install.

v1.0.1

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Interactions: Stopped sorcery sources from spreading it like an STD. (Sorcery sources were changed to TOUCH interaction rather than LINEofSIGHT (carp-magi, dryads, familiars), except for the Aetherial (megabeast).
    Sorcery interaction recharge time was increased 1000x. Sorcery potion lowered from 100% to 90% effectiveness).
Creatures: Did a "tone and feel" pass on carp people, plus gave them all ability to pet
Creatures: bulettes (for sahuagin) had their pet value increased from 1 to 50
Names/Descriptions: Golem War Machine renamed to Golem Combat Platform to remove redudant name when war trained
Names/Descriptions: Continued work on putting all descriptions in vanilla format (files: tb dnd monstrosity, creature_standard_spellclrafts)
Symbols: half-Angels are not related to the lineage system, so don't need to hide as a "U". Change to "A".
Materials: material value of aetherium and aetherwood increased to 2, metallic aetherium to 11 (to prevent cheap adv outfitting)
Bugs: Gave calamity megabeasts their castenames back (was "nothing")

Legends mode picture showing calamity megabeasts:

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(https://imgur.com/Xskug34.png)

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.0.1: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance. (Major) [47.05]
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on August 07, 2021, 10:26:49 pm

So funny watching orcs petting and talking affectionately to their siege engines. It's obviously a side effect of siege engines being coded as domesticated creatures for orc civs, but I still love how it comes across almost as an unintentional parody of stereotypical orc war culture. :P

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.0.1: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance. (Major) [47.05]
Post by: Atkana on August 11, 2021, 11:06:01 am

Had another bit of a play with my naga adventurer (and checked out their raws) and came to notice a few things:

• Nagas have the spit interaction, but don't have a SPIT material defined. As such it defaults to spitting their first material, which is naga fat.
• The fingers body part used has CONTYPE:GRASP, meaning that fingers get attached to their tails, since they have the GRASP tag.
• Similarly, their punch attack uses the BY_TYPE:GRASP filter, meaning that those grasping tails can be used for punching. Using BY_CATEGORY:HAND should fix that.
• It's not clear if they've accidentally had their venom removed from their bite or not. The injection part in their bite attack is commented out, with the explanation being that "the venom material is removed", but the creature has a venom material.
• This ones just a personal and quite small detail, but their tails are very small for what I imagine "traditional" nagas to have (compared to their body + lower body combined, their tails are currently 1/20th of that volume). You can use [RELSIZE:BY_CATEGORY:TAIL:your_size_here] if you want to adjust that (5000ish seems like an okay value according to Dwarf Portrait, ignoring that the program is behaving a bit jankily for me). Obviously, this'll have an impact on the rest of their size and effectiveness of certain attacks.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.0.1: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance. (Major) [47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on August 11, 2021, 11:55:42 am

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orcs petting and talking affectionately to their seige engines

This will never get old!

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Their fingers get attached to their tails.

The stuff of nightmares! Thanks Atkana. I've got this and the rest fixed for Naga (I'll release a version in the next few hours) - but the fingers thing is actually Warlord's bug originally, so I want to identify which other animalpeople are effected and send Warlord a pm with our changes. Cheers!

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.0.1: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance. (Major) [47.05]
Post by: voliol on August 14, 2021, 01:10:12 pm

Ran the raws through DF Duplisearch (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=175695.0) and found two errors: seagull men are called "albatross men", and lorises are called "lemurs". There are also multiple creatures called "moles", "beak dogs" and "worgs", but I'm not sure whether this is an oversight or intentional, especially with the latter two.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.0.1: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance. (Major) [47.05]
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on August 16, 2021, 04:53:06 pm

Quote from: voliol on August 14, 2021, 01:10:12 pm

Ran the raws through DF Duplisearch (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=175695.0) and found two errors: seagull men are called "albatross men", and lorises are called "lemurs". There are also multiple creatures called "moles", "beak dogs" and "worgs", but I'm not sure whether this is an oversight or intentional, especially with the latter two.

It seems the latter two at least are intentional, since I noticed in the arena that they have both diseased and non-diseased variants.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.0.1: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance. (Major) [47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on August 18, 2021, 05:29:59 pm

Hello all,

I hope everyone is making great stories with the mod! All issues identified by everyone have been fixed. I will put out a release tomorrow (Thursday) for this week. I missed last week's release due to the wildfires in South of France - I'm safe!

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Beak Dogs and Worgs... have diseased variants

One rare but significant hazard in the mod, which I forgot to advertise, is the prevalence of multiple mineral-based sicknesses and creature-based diseases. They are important for a number of civs, including dwarfs (yay additional dwarf gameplay) and kobolds (who are at high risk for the above, which relates to cheesemaking.) The mineral-based sicknesses come from known toxic minerals in life; they were well-researched for the mod.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.0.1: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance. (Major) [47.05]
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on August 18, 2021, 07:50:23 pm

Something else I've noticed lately that I suspect is a bug...the majority of the populace of certain sites seem to have a tendency to be heavily frostbitten for no reason I can readily figure out.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.0.1: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance. (Major) [47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on August 19, 2021, 07:57:19 am

Version 1.0.2 is live!
This version addresses the tail fingers identified by Atkana, which has also been reported to the original mod author. Thank you! Other polish is included.
This version does not introduce any changes that would substantially necessitate a new world if already invested.
Only ~12 raw files, plus the readme doc, were changed from 1.0.1; sorting raws by date (Aug 14 + Aug 18) will show those and save a full install.

v1.0.2

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Additions: Added pigeons. I woke up in a cold sweat realizing one of life's best animals was not included in DF. They are smaller than the (extinct) passenger pigeons.
Creatures: Gave Lizardmen the ability to spit.
Creatures: For Lizardmen, added a new tail swipe attack. (Nagas have this by default since their tail is Stance, and other tailed men have by default upon conversion).
Creatures: For Naga, clarified that their tail swipe is their only "kick" option. (All other tailed men have a kick by default because their tails are NOT their kicking limbs after conversion).
Creatures: For Naga, restored their poison / venom.
Creatures: Restored the missing two heads to the Primal Calamity (the dinosaur hydra megabeast). It now properly has three.
Names/Descriptions: Fixed some lemur vs loris issues. Lorises are not in Highfantasy at present.
Names/Descriptions: Fixed Seagull Men masquerading as Albatross Men.
Names/Descriptions: Cleared up the moles. By the way, the star-nosed mole is an absolutely amazing creature and you should go read about it.
Symbols: Updated default human, dwarf, and elf creature colors to match civ colors. Goblins had already been changed to match in 1.0.0.
Bugs: Gave Naga a spit material to stop them spitting their own fat.
Bugs: Removed fingers from the tails of naga. This was a single case; for the more widespread version of the bug, read on.
Bugs: Added code to the animalman cv conversion to prevent fingers growing from TAIL_ANIMALMAN_GRASP s by creating a "4handfingers" bodypart in body_default. This fixed tailfingers on at least 12 creatures impacted by the basic_1partbody, body_with_head_flag, and quadruped_neck body type conversions across legged and legless versions. Did NOT need to also adjust the Punching interaction in the animalman cv because it already used CAT not TYPE; serpentmen (nagas) were a hardcoded exception/oversight by the original coder.

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The majority of the populace of certain sites seem to have a tendency to be heavily frostbitten.

Adding this one to the "unknown source" tracker. Offhand, my first questions are: are they wearing clothes? Is it a certain civ's sites or which ones? Possible vectors include clothing changes and, much less likely, body changes (what few there are). There aren't weather changes.

Also Voliol, great work on your creatures mod - I just found it for the first time and will be checking it out :)

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.0.2: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance. (Major) [47.05]
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on August 19, 2021, 08:51:06 pm

It seems to primarily affect subterranean civs, as so far I've noticed it with halflings and orcs. And yes, they were all wearing clothes.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.0.2: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance. (Major) [47.05]
Post by: Splint on August 20, 2021, 08:24:57 pm

Glad to see this finally released. Here's hoping it gets some love given the amount of stuff that appears to have been popped in this.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.0.2: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance. (Major) [47.05]
Post by: Slots on August 20, 2021, 09:48:03 pm

Are the calamities meant to die of old age? I just noticed that the only one I had in my world did nothing for 21 years before it died of old age.

I also seem to have run into a nothing again.

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(https://i.imgur.com/7xdS6zH.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/u36PzU1.png)

Looking at the names in legends viewer tells me that they are philia.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.0.2: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance. (Major) [47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on August 22, 2021, 12:03:26 pm

Tagging Philia castename and Calamity maxages for the next version, they are not supposed to have one.

Plump: that's helpful. I strongly suspect this is related to the "crude" clothing introduced by Sver (not the same as the "rudimentary" clothing used by kobolds). Good guys, kobolds, hobgoblins don't use crude clothing, but I think everyone else does. And frostbite is related to clothing coverage amount - I bet the amount for crude clothing is too low. Will look into it.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.0.3: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance. (Major) [47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on August 27, 2021, 07:03:30 am

Version 1.0.3 is live!
This version cleans up demon megabeast spheres and spreading evil, and banditry for civilizations. It also ports a few bugfixes from the dwarven domestic animals mod and brings new features from Splint's Vanilla Expanded v9 (see Materials). Most importantly, it addresses code related to the "Tyrant" positions for multiple civs, which have been removed - explanation below.
This version does not introduce any changes that would substantially necessitate a new world if already invested.
However, many raw files and a couple speech files were changed from 1.0.2. Sorting raws by date (Aug 19 + 26-27) will show those and save a full install if desired.

v1.0.3

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Files: Organized the entire readme folder, and the blueprint itself; included an obvious "optional files" subfolder
Files: -Re-added the optional uppercase dino files. Remember that even if you use them, they are default set to layer 3 of the caverns, but that can be easily adjusted en-masse via. Also, they're mostly unmodified.
Files: -Added an optional file for half-fiends, a close copy of angel civ, which is VERY loosely based on ancient sumerian/akkadian civilization
Files: Data-Speech - updated goblin, hobgoblin, orc, sahuagin kill speech to fix typos
Files: Data-Speech - added lair_hunter_frog.txt
Interactions: Standardized name of lizal, naga, and general tail attacks to simply "swipe." Punch, Kick, Scratch, Bite, Swipe.
Entities: Reviewed banditry. All civs except elves have BANDITRY, and all the others except hobbits and angels/cambions have LOCAL_BANDITRY.
Entities: Edited the religious spheres of goblins, hobgoblins, and lizal to match their associated megabeasts after sphere changes for spreading evil
Creatures: All aboveground demon varieties, and the blendec and dracolich, can accurately spread evil spheres if ruler (made sure they had POWER, SPREAD_, and one of the 5 relevant spheres).
Creatures: Except Yargle, he doesn't SPREAD, although Boghorror semimegabeasts do now properly inhabit lairs
Creatures: Lamia no longer spread_evil_spheres
Creatures: Otters (vanilla and stygian) can now fish for your fort via a MouthGrasp (ported from DBDB)
Creatures: Unicorns, horses, dogs, wolves have discipline (frontport from SPL vanilla expanded V9)
Creatures: cats and dogs spawn wild (frontport from SPL vanilla expanded V9)
Creatures: Wolves were added to class ZOOANIMAL for human use.
Creatures: lowered animalman freq from 115% to 90% (vanilla is 10%, by the way) in good biomes,
   but increased the popular ones up to 180% and removed their biome restrictions using a new CV - "popular"
   -by the way, every other [GOOD] creatures intentionally lacks biome restrictions, due to good biome scarcity (all_main, except merpeople use all the water biomes)
   (this is also a good time to remind that highfantasy does include popular Gnolls and Drow, they just aren't so obviously singled out with IP-based names)
Creatures: Feral Goblins have been renamed to Wild Goblins and are no longer OPPOSED_TO_LIFE
Names/Descriptions: edited feral goblins' descriptions and SPEECH (tile already matched) to match goblins and mirror the "show don't tell" system already used by nearhumans and lineages
Names/Descriptions: edited hobgoblins' goblin laborers' descriptions and CASTE_SPEECH (caste_tile already matched) ... ""
Names/Descriptions: edited rival goblin slaves' descriptions and SPEECH (tile already matched) ... ""
Names/Descriptions: edited orc and halforc descriptions to match vanilla format
Names/Descriptions: edited bugbear description to match vanilla format, and added a caste tile for them
Names/Descriptions: edited hobgoblin description to match format; in fact, I think their description was bugged before with no ]
Names/Descriptions: added baby and childnames for hobgoblins and bugbears (generic)
Names/Descriptions: plural of giant star-nosed moleS
Names/Descriptions: great ice and fire imps are now greater (creature_spellcrafts)
Materials: Added cobalt and uranium (pitch) glaze (frontport from SPL vanilla expanded V9)
Materials: Added borax and olivine as flux stone (frontport from SPL vanilla expanded V9)
Code Cleanup: Across multiple entities, replaced goblin-ish POSITION variable names to civ appropriate ones
Code Cleanup: HF copies of lowercase recent extinct creatures had _HF appended to their creature names to prevent list-shift errors for people who want to play with all the dinos
Code Cleanup: Moved the lowercase dino CVs from the dep cv to the highfantasy cv, where the marquis dino CVs already existed, for consistency.
Bugs: ported recent bugfixes from DBDB dwarf domestics. Also 2 name changes, and removed COLOR and MATERIAL template files.
Bugs: removed max ages from all Calamities; they will no longer die of old age
Bugs: Gave Philia their castenames back (was "nothing")
Bugs: Fixed an important bug which caused most of the entities to create and fill a second civ leadership position (Forgetyrant, deeptyrant, etc; the merfolk "Tyrant" is something else). These positions were supposed to be exclusive to the Megabeast associated with each religious entitiy (Balors for goblins, etc), but did not work correctly because you cannot use ACCEPTED/REJECTED CREATURE/CLASS to target a creature (balor) outside of the civ's creature (goblin), so instead the game just filled those positions all the time with whatever was avaialable. This has no real gameplay impact, but is pretty big for civ-level flavor considerations. Note that megabeasts taking over the entities is uneffected, and they will still do so if possible.

Ongoing efforts:

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-Still looking for the source of the frostbite on certain civs. I don't think it's related to clothing.
-Still aware that zombies are strangely hard to chop up compared to other creatures
-misspelled the "CRAFTS" sphere on one creature, no need to report this as it has already been fixed

Player questions:
Has anyone hit cavern layer 3 yet? Currently, it's a bit lacking in HF, since the mod was balanced around a bunch of Uppercase Dinos living there, but then I disabled them by default. It's kindof barren right now with spiders, dryders, and the deadly visitor. I'm thinking of adding ZM5's Dementia creatures (from Lurks Below) as another optional module?

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.0.3: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance. (Major) [47.05]
Post by: Splint on August 27, 2021, 11:06:52 am

I personally vouche for What Lurks Below in general.

Hopefully everything that's been frontported from V9 of SVE works properly, been a while since I messed with the glazes and its entirely possible I lost something during the mod reorganization.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.0.3: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance. (Major) [47.05]
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on August 27, 2021, 06:42:56 pm

I say go for it! In general, WLB has some fantastic creatures.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.0.3: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance. (Major) [47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on August 28, 2021, 08:41:47 am

Yep! I've been playing with it and the integration is really smooth. I'm looking forward to releasing it, but will take a bit longer to "swallow." I'm adding some crossplay with Spellcrafts and Highfantasy in general, as usual. Adding larger sets of content isn't something I'm planning to do often, but this one is a great fit.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.0.3: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance. (Major) [47.05]
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on September 02, 2021, 03:33:35 pm

Think I found another bug that I figured I should report. I enabled the cavern dinos just out of curiosity for my latest world, and it appears that they still show up as domesticated animals for aboveground civs like in the "vanilla" Primal mod. Kinda spoils the HFS mood I was hoping to create with them. :P

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.0.3: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance. (Major) [47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on September 03, 2021, 04:17:57 pm

Plump,

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I have addressed this in the current release! I had actually taken care of that and many other adjustments in a pre-release version, but lost those files after I cut the uppercase dinos from the main mod. You're welcome to try them now - with minor adjustments in the c_variation_highfantasy file, they can be played alongside the following.

Version 1.1.0 is live!
This version includes what is hopefully the final major addition to the mod in the form of key parts of ZM5's "What Lurks Below," adding fleshy, eldritch horrors to the third subterranean cavern layer. This fills the final to-do item of the mod as originally conceived by adding an eldrazi-inspired brood. As always with highfantasy, these creatures are integrated into the existing entities and this version has a clean errorlog. The version also includes the following:
-adds mundane animals from Voliol's Various Vivants
-cleans up the acquisition of foci for each of the 5 spellcrafting schools
-gives a major racial advantage to lizal and green dragonic things
-cleans up bugs related to the optional files, ensuring all optional files play well with the default files
As a major release, Highfantasy 1.1.0 includes changes such that starting a new save file is strongly recommended. The mod will continue to be updated with bugfixes as needed and, after the premium release, graphics.
Many raw files but no data files were changed from 1.0.3. A fresh installation into the raw folder is recommended.

v1.1.0

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Additions: Introduced about 1/3 of ZM5's "lurks below" cavern mod to fill the gap in cavern 3, filling an unfinished gap in Highfantasy and adding another significant challenge. Lurks Below adds a bunch of eldrazi annihilator fleshy horrors to layer 3, some fungal creatures to layer 1 (bosses on 2), some circus vermin, and a few less exotic creatures across the caverns. One of these, the crystal goat, is particularly notable because its dairy products provide temporary resistance to the dementia magics of layer 3. Progression!
   -standardized the naming conventions of the cavern-3 eldritch horrors to both group them together and explain what they do.    https://imgur.com/a/7OXMa
      The boss creatures are the hollow, the amalgate, and the assemblage.
      The predators have dual names with "-er". Flesh harvester, flesh herder, nightmare weaver, sight distorter, resolution breaker, form defacer, dark dweller (peaceful).
      The minions have singular names related to their spawner. Thoughtless from Nightmare Weavers, Sightless from Sight Distorters, fleshspawn and fleshworms from flesh herders/harvesters
      In every case, I tried to keep the names as reminiscient as possible of ZM5's, hence not changing many of them much or at all.
   -added toggle for the entire Lurks Below suite in cv_highfantasy to control cavern biome spawning or eliminate the creatures
   -added milk ferment/class, venom sacs, hides, dried guts as appropriate. Plus, there are other cross-mod interactions given the name "dementia."
   -the new humanoid creatures are now local_pops_ctr but not _heroes; civs won't accept them (except Dark Dwellers)
   -cavern screechers are an additional option to fill the basic layer_linked civ
   -hell nymphs are [DEMON]s
   -crystalline chargers are simplified to crystal chargers
   -fungi monsters are pet exotic not pet, except for the nonhostile Scavenger flower and hostile vine serpent. Moldspawn aren't pets at all.
   -eldritch creatures have a pet class given to (debug civs) but are otherwise either pet_exotic or not pet.
   -gave elves, angels ZM5_DEATHBLOOM as "always pet", has no pet token by default but has petvalue.
   -goblins are the only civ messy enough to tame the new moldspawn and moldslaves - surprisingly fitting since moldslaves are disease spreaders.
Additions: added a super hyper gameending eldritch megabeast. it has no population trigger, only massive wealth and trade triggers.
Additions: Included voliol's various vivants 3.1 for some more mundane animals. I'm pretty shocked we didn't have hornets, lemmings, and vampire bats already.
   -added milks, venom sacs, dried guts, zooanimal class as appropriate.
   -added standardized animal person armor sizes for Voliol VVV animals
   -onager horse renamed to common onager (lest confusion with seige); wallaby, & mountain zebra milk ferment
   -gave 2 baleen reactions to pretty much all civs. Would have been cool to limit, but it's so niche already
   -adjusted voliol's animalman cv to capture all our mod changes and styles
   -did not add "leather to hide" to the animalpeople, because Warlord never did this to vanilla animal people
   -salamander men are one more addition to the list of "popular" (more available, more playable) animal men
Additions: Conducted a major pass over the Magic system (see Reactions below); all foci have alternate aquisition methods
Files: Rewrote the readme section on Spellcrafts to be much more descriptive, including on acquisition of foci
Files: Added an alternate Highfantasy Caverns cv file in the optionals, which restores the vanilla layout of the caverns (1-2-3 vs 1-3-& in highfantasy)
Creatures: doubled spawn frequency of great drakes (vanilla dragons), which were tending to die out over time
Creatures: restricted loes to aboveground (was 0:2) to reduce their numbers
Creatures: lizal, wyverns, and anything with a green dragon head are no longer    [CREATURE_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON], meaning they are immune to lesser venoms and most syndromes.
Creatures: underground vermin - rats, moles, mole rats, bats, and friends - are now properly populating caves and caverns. Worms too, but they are -unnumbered- so don't show up in Sites file
Creatures: rat men spawn underground along with bat men, worm men, etc
Creatures: added standardized animal person armor sizes for SPL/vanilla expanded. Changed Sponge Men armor size to match VVV Starfish Men.
Creatures: SPL (plains) zebras can now properly create fermented milk.
Creatures: SPL venom sacs and spinnerets for orbweaver, harvest spider
Creatures: ADV poison can now be extracted correctly from bark scorpion, recluse spider, giant cave spider
Creatures: eliminated two ubiqitous spawning biomes (glacier, lake) from aetherials. Also, they're no longer a POWER. Just another interesting species.
Creatures: troodon (hf) - renamed to troodontid and reduce spawn freq. Note that elves really love adopting these guys and using them as surrogate chickens, which is adorable and reasonable.
Names/Descriptions: diseased giant bats are now brackish giant bats
Names/Descriptions: renamed vanilla flesh balls to fleshballs to fit our Lurks Below conventions, as if they are a preview or early scout of the horrors to come. They and 3 other vanilla cavern creatures are now also internally defined as eldrich.
Names/Descriptions: renamed lesser/normal hell hounds to flare and inferno hounds, respectively, because hell is kindof an IP-based name
Names/Descriptions: renamed "brock" (former badgerwolf) to "brockh" because the name brock was irritating, also reverted mammole to mole-beast. We grew up with these names, durnit.
Names/Descriptions: all mole-creatures have been united by a dash, except for the molemarian. vmeste, mui silniy!
Materials: See changes to acquisition of Foci below.
Reactions: Reviewed and improved all reactions related to foci in the Magic system, adding alternate paths without simplifying, to standardize and reduce grind.
   +a grimoire is consistantly called that, not Book of Magic or Inscribed Slate
   +ingame names of Studying reactions updated to use Highfantasy's templateing (pyromancy not hyazith, etc)
   +the planar book and bestiary, which are two different items, were completely split in function.
      The planar book is used for summons/conjures, and the bestiary for polymorphs. Added/updated tool descriptions to suggest this.
   +all creature summons and item conjures require both a grimoire and planar tome, in addition to aether salt and (in fort mode) the workshop. Alchemy reactions do NOT require the Planar Tome.
      the nice part about this is it means the planar book is useful for all civs in conjuring; before, was only useful for angels' summoning.
   +every single reaction which can create Foci now has a description stating so, and giving the (low) percent success.
   +provided an alternate acquisition method for every focus, to standardize the schools as horizontal progression at the end of a vertical system.
      The Aether Focus is created 1% when studying general magic (DF and ADV). Alternatively, kill an Aetherial.
      The Pyromancy Fc is created 1% while making fireball basin (DF and ADV). Alternatively, kill a Chaos Witch.
      The Miracle Focs is created 2-3% while using altar (DF) or shrine (ADV). Alternatively, kill an Empyrean.
      The Hexing Focus is created 1% when summoning demons*      (DF and ADV). Alternatively, kill a Hollow from the new Lurks Below content.
      The Bestiary     is created 1% when elves summon pets*    (DF and ADV). Alternatively, kill a Chimera or a Hybrid.
      *Requires a planar tome. The Planar Tome  is created 1% while making aether residue (DF and ADV).
   +added the Sorcery Potion reaction, which was missing, and gave it to entities. As a reminder, a sorcerer is just a naturally-gifted aetherial-school wizard.
   +relevant to the above, the remaining magical entities all gained the holy altar and its 3 reactions. An aether salt cost was added to the "free" offering - there's no such thing as free lunch.
   +As a reminder, Highfantasy's Secrets are supplemental to the wizard study schools, not redundant, and they map to the schools. They are: Pyromancy, Druidism (Animals or Trees), Miracles, Birth and Silence
Code Cleanup: Various code cleanup related to the spellcrafts foci and templating.
Bugs: Fixed that scaled drakes were spawning in cavern layer 3 instead of aboveground, which is pretty significant, since they are one of the only 2-3 non-mundane creatures allowed to spawn in mundane surroundings
Bugs: Fixed chaos witches not spawning (only effected 1.0.3, prior versions were fine)
Bugs: Removed the tags [Pet] and [Common_domestic] from the optional Uppercase Dinos, and replaced with [Pet_Exotic], to make them more HFS-y
Bugs: Made sure that water-based Uppercase Dinos, if you use them, will spawn in water. This applies to creature_ADP_water_DEP, creature_ocean_DEP, creature_rivermonsters_DEP, and creature_watervermin_DEP.
   Note that if you plan to use the uppercase dinos AND the eldritch creatures, it is recommended to make some spawning changes which are detailed in c_variation_highfantasy, or else these dinos will spawn over the others.

v1.1.01

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Creatures: Standardized the pet-ness of the ZM5 dementia creatures. Put simply, anything that's a minion can now be tamed as pet_exotic if you take pity on it, while anything that's a predator cannot be a pet (save debug civs)
Files: generated a new Save 10 to be attached to the file download to include the above

Ongoing efforts:

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-Still looking for the source of the frostbite on certain civs. I don't think it's related to clothing.
-Still aware that zombies are strangely hard to chop up compared to other creatures

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.0.3: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance. (Major) [47.05]
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on September 03, 2021, 04:31:20 pm

Yay more HFS!

Speaking of ZM5, would there be any complications to me adding ZM5's "Lands of Duality" mod on top of this or would that mess up the balance you've worked on so carefully?

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.0.3: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance. (Major) [47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on September 03, 2021, 05:00:34 pm

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Is ZM5's "Lands of Duality" compatible with this mod?

Yes! There will be errorlog errors but no significant bugs.

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Can I add the rest of ZM5's "What Lurks Below" to this mod?

No, that will cause real and gamebreaking bugs including list-shift errors. You can copy unsued creatures over but don't drag and drop the files.

More thoughts:

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Lands of Duality is an interesting one. I've explored it quite a bit, and it's a neat concept; in fact, a lot of what it has done are thing that I considered in earlier stages of HF. What makes it unique is that each Evil and each Good biome is distinct from each other one, so you won't encounter the same creatures in every playthrough. Highfantasy does the exact opposite - all good creatures can spawn in all good biomes (except for animalmen that aren't [POPULAR]), and most evil creatures have broad spawn conditions at least. Also, LoD creatures' interactions, while sometimes powerful, aren't tied into any systems in a way that would break things. And because ZM5 is a good clean coder, there's no file overlap between LoD and Lurks Below itself. Go for it.

Only word of advice is you WILL likely get a couple bugs in the errorlog, but none of them will have any impact on gameplay whatsoever (they relate to the banes of my existence - venom sacs, skulls, hides, dried guts, and so on).

What I would NOT recommend is trying to add any of the cut files from Lurks Below, which will cause big problems. If Lurks Below has a creature that a player really likes, I recommend to cut and paste just the [CREATURE:] itself into the creature_cavern_HF file.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: Sanguis on September 07, 2021, 02:41:41 pm

I am really grateful for this modpack. May I ask if it is compatible with legends viewer?

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on September 07, 2021, 09:42:30 pm

Thank you for the kind words Sanguis!

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Is Highfantasy compatible with Legends Viewer?

Yes. To avoid DFHack installation bugs, I recommend using Legends Viewer "the old way", per its forum page:

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1. Enter Legends Mode.
2. Export the XML `(x)`
3. Export Map/Gen Information `(p)`
4. (Optional) Export Additional Detailed Maps `(d)`

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Updated the front page with compatibility information and some more general information.

Updated post #3 with a full breakdown of the Lineage system and how to play as your desired adventurer. This doesn't need a re-install, it applies to any version of the mod you're already playing; it's just the explanation.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: DwarfStar on September 12, 2021, 12:39:04 pm

I started a dark gnome fort a while back (v1.0.1) and I had a problem that I wasn't really anticipating. I understood that I would have very few weapons to choose from, but what I didn't realize is that being unable to produce axes meant, no access to wood. Is that intentional? I eventually got all the wood I needed after the first small invasion, that I was able to overwhelm with golems, brought an axe that I was able to use. I am fine with dark gnomes being meant to be a high difficulty, but it's hard to role-play this particular limitation. Do these gnomes, who are talented enough machinists to be able to build golems, really not have the technology to fell trees? Or did I just miss some reaction that would have let me build some kind of axe?

I'd suggest going one of two ways with it:

1. Give the dark gnomes some kind of poor-quality axe like stone or bone axes so they can chop wood.
2. Completely eliminate wood from the dark gnome reactions, even removing the carpenter, ashery, and wood burning workshops. They would need stone beds or something like that. This would raise the difficulty further since they would have no access to potash or charcoal.

I looked over the release notes for the versions since v1.0.1 and didn't see anything about this, but my apologies in advance if you've already addressed this.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on September 12, 2021, 04:56:09 pm

Hey DwarfStar, thanks for the great feedback!

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Lacking axes, gnomes lack access to wood without invasions or trades.

It's intended behavior that gnomes not have the axe as a weapon, but not intended for them to lack wood. I appreciate you pointing out that this leads to un-fun gameplay and is not a flavor match either.

In the short term, this is a great time to talk about ModestMod's Custom Reactions - which you can use for any civilization regardless of what version you're playing on!

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Generic reactions are something to can be added and changed for all civs at any point your playthrough. They are located in the raws specific to your SAVE file, not the general raws, in the file reaction_modest_generic. You can use any one of those three files to add and change reactions on the fly. Undernearth a line like "[REACTION:GENERIC_1]", you can post some code. For example:
[REACTION:GENERIC_1]
   [NAME:make stone bed]
   [BUILDING:MASON:NONE]
   [REAGENT:stone:1:BOULDER:NO_SUBTYPE:NONE:NONE][WORTHLESS_STONE_ONLY]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:BED:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:stone:NONE]
      [PRODUCT_TOKEN:bed]
   [SKILL:MASONRY]

[REACTION:GENERIC_2]
   [NAME:make stone axe]
   [BUILDING:MASON:NONE]
   [REAGENT:stone:1:BOULDER:NO_SUBTYPE:NONE:NONE][WORTHLESS_STONE_ONLY]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_BATTLE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:stone:NONE]
      [PRODUCT_TOKEN:axe]
   [SKILL:STONECRAFT]

In the long term, for the next bugfix update, I have some other ideas. (Which might be a while, since there is nothing I need to work on that I know how to fix, and no other pressing needs or polish issues...and I want to let everyone play with their worlds and get more feedback on the balance in 1.1.01, and there's only one more polish/fluff thing I want to work on).

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Actually, my preferred solution would be to give the golems axes and picks for laboring; but although I could easily code such appendages, under current limitations I would not be able to get the game to recognize them for task-usage. Instead, I'll make a "harvesting implement" that chops trees and mines without problems, but isn't good in combat, and I might give it to a few other civs too. In the meantime, use these reactions.

I will also do a pass over every civilization to make sure they all have the ability to at least craft an axe (except maybe elves). I was careful to make sure that everyone can craft either a pickaxe or a mattock, because not having the option at all is not fun, regardless of flavor, as you pointed out.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: DwarfStar on September 12, 2021, 05:31:39 pm

Well, honestly it wasn't all that un-fun, since the gnomes that didn't get beds from the deconstructed wagons didn't seem to mind too much. It was an interesting challenge not having wood, so I rushed magma and built copper pots, cages, and bins. It's more of a role-playing problem of trying to imagine the gnomes coming across an axe for the first time, saying "what is this wizardry?" In that scenario it's hard to reconcile them then having advanced carpentry skills.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on September 12, 2021, 05:58:45 pm

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It's more of a role-playing problem of trying to imagine the gnomes coming across an axe for the first time, saying "what is this wizardry?"

You should sig this, I'm laughing myself to death!

Updated post #3 with some more information about the cavern creatures and reorganization. This doesn't need a re-install, it applies to the current version; it's just the explanation.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: Sanguis on September 13, 2021, 06:11:13 pm

Uh. I got a problem now. The captain asked me to kill an oni but they seem impossible to kill since they strike you in invisibility. is ther something i could do against it?

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on September 13, 2021, 07:01:06 pm

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Oni seem impossible to kill since they strike you in invisibility.

EDIT: See Atkana's response below. It is recommended to avoid the few creatures that hide in Highfantasy when playing adventure mode. For the next version, I'll up their challenge ratings to 11 so they are not assigned as quests, and increase their hide timer for DF mode.
(These creatures include: Oni, Stalkers, Skelk, Lesser Imps, faerie dragons, all 4 genie types, and all Shadow Lineage caste creatures. For the next version v1.1.1, due to this vanilla big, I will remove hiding from leser imps, faerie dragons, and genies.)

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: Atkana on September 14, 2021, 01:18:29 am

Due to bugs in the base game, anything that hides in adventure mode becomes permanently invisible and essentially uninteractable. DFhack's reveal-hidden-units can be used as a workaround to undo their hiding so the game is playable.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: Sanguis on September 14, 2021, 07:21:07 pm

Hi again. How do one get a grimoire? crafting it requires a diamond but searching for gems only brings rock crystals. I also tryed shops but nothing was found.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on September 15, 2021, 11:00:00 am

Hey Sanguis,

That's actually intended behavior, it's supposed to be really tough to "suddenly" turn to magic studies. Although I'm open to suggestions for balance tweaks. You can:
-check human town Trinket Shops for diamonds
-maybe there's a human shop that sells tools and might have a grimoire?
-raid dwarf fortresses for diamonds and/or grimoires

Of course, if your objective is to play as a wizard, that's another story entirely - just start with a grimoire from Equipment -> Tools. My human adventurer from Save10 is carrying a Llama Wool Grimoire and a Sheep Wool Divine Focus, of all things...

Q: I'm going back and forth on giving the free "search for gems" reaction a chance to create a diamond, or adding a "search harder" option to get diamonds for those who are having the problem you are having.

Q: And for you Sanguis, in case you're really attached to your current adventurer, maybe you can try using the generic reactions... I'm not sure if they can adjust adventure mode on the fly, but it's worth a shot! (And I need to know that info anyway).

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

In the file reaction_modest_generic, in your SAVE folder not your raws folder, copy the following under [REACTION:GENERIC_3]

   [NAME:Inscribe a Grimoire, Desparately]
   [ADVENTURE_MODE_ENABLED]
   [REAGENT:material:1:NONE:NO_SUBTYPE:NONE:NONE][BUILDMAT]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_BOOK_MAGIC:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:material:NONE]
   [SKILL:ALCHEMY]
   [DESCRIPTION:Inscribe a grimoire desparately by pouring your heart and soul into the act.]
   [CATEGORY:EB_SPELLCRAFTS_ITEMS]

For fort mode, this can adjust reactions on the fly... I'm not sure if it works in adventure mode too.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on September 15, 2021, 01:52:52 pm

I've also been trying to learn magic over the course of many, many adventure mode sessions so this is extremely helpful to me as well. Thanks kiira!

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on September 15, 2021, 03:51:55 pm

;) my pleasure. By the way, almost all the information you could need about the magic system is on the frontpage now. There's like 99% parity between adventure and fort modes. The only differences are that
1. In fort mode, your diamond goes into the spell workshop, but in adv mode it goes into the grimoire itself to start.
2. Divine foci have different "backup" sources in fort and adv mode.

For anyone who's playing with the spellcrafts magic system prior to 1.0.3, the alternate-acquisition of foci has changed but the main mechanics of the magic system have not: Study magic, unlock a new focus somehow, study more magic with that focus.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: Sanguis on September 15, 2021, 04:47:00 pm

Thanks that worked! Another question is what are ''arms''? The game counts this things as weapons.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on September 15, 2021, 05:44:04 pm

"Arm" in general can be a synonym for "weapon", but what specific weapons are you referring to? Off the top of my head, could be referring to guns (aka "firearms").

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: Sanguis on September 15, 2021, 06:13:43 pm

I mean things named ''slinger arms'' ''thief arms'' watchman arms'' ''linebraker arms'' etc

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: Splint on September 15, 2021, 06:52:06 pm

Quote from: Sanguis on September 15, 2021, 06:13:43 pm

I mean things named ''slinger arms'' ''thief arms'' watchman arms'' ''linebraker arms'' etc

It's probably a workaround for using matched weapon sets (a slinger or crossbowman realistically wouldn't go into a fight with just a sling or crossbow for example,) to account for the jank around issuing multiple weapons to a single soldier.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on September 15, 2021, 07:12:49 pm

Yep. Thank Sver for this. They are ranged weapon sets.
One arms = 1 ranged weapon + 1 melee weapon, and people actually know how to use them.
They don't at all replace the melee weapons themselves, and i guess you can still make the standalone ranged weapons too if you like. Made the same way you'd expect, preferably from metal.

I need to add Sver's guide (ie, "a wanderer's arms is a crossbow plus an axe") to the front page info. I'll get to that soon.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: Sanguis on September 16, 2021, 08:18:19 pm

I just made a brimstone essence with my grimoire! What do I do with it next?

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: Sanguis on September 16, 2021, 08:31:54 pm

Oh I figured it out. But the magma shot doesnt seem to do any damage at all. Does it depend on wizardry skill?

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on September 16, 2021, 09:09:18 pm

Good job! You must be studying Pyromancy :) As you seem to have figured out, what you do is... eat it!

The brimstone essence is a VERY weak spell, that's why it's so much more common (21%) when studying pyromancy than the better pyromancy spells - Magma and Fireball (14%). However it should be doing SOME damage... what are you attacking? And I don't think it's based on wizard skill... it's just a material emission haha.

Also, I forgot to add to the OP, if you're doing an adventure mode character who will jump-start as a wizard, try to take some disease resistance! Studying magic is dangerous and mentally taking...

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: Sanguis on September 16, 2021, 10:54:40 pm

Oh I see. Thanks for the tip! My character at this point is an unkillable vampire killing 5 TRex not even getting hit once.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: Sanguis on September 17, 2021, 01:39:13 am

Aether residue only needed to make the planar tome?

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on September 17, 2021, 08:51:39 am

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My character at this point is an unkillable vampire killing 5 TRex not even getting hit once.

That's amazing, sounds like you're making some great stories haha

Aether residue is a "waste product" of many magic studying reactions, including the creation of a planar tome. The only use for it is to "reduce" it back into useful aether salts, in both fort and adv mode.

Edit: actually that's not true! In fort mode, there's the alchemy reaction "Contaminants of Stones" with two versions. One of the versions takes aether residue - and this version has a chance to produce a light yellow diamond (the kind needed for the spell workshop... comes a bit late in fort mode, but I'm going to copy this reaction over to adventure mode for the next version too :) )

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: Sanguis on September 17, 2021, 02:35:20 pm

Are the demons you summon always hostile even thou concidered tame?

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on September 17, 2021, 04:20:48 pm

If so, I kind of actually like that idea personally. Summoning fiends from the netherworld to aid you in your battles should feel like a double-edged sword IMO.

Guess it depends on your playstyle, though.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: Sanguis on September 17, 2021, 05:44:00 pm

Oh. Ive been summoning demons for a while and got a magic aura in my inventory. What is it?

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on September 17, 2021, 07:25:28 pm

Sanguis, I think you're trying to master all the different schools of magic haha... don't forget that there are also secrets to learn, and sorcery, in addition to the wizard school!

Demon summoning: you know the reaction is labeled with "EXTREMELY DANGEROUS", right?  :P  Yes, the reaction has [IE_MAKE_PET_IF_POSSIBLE], so if possible they WOULD be made pets, but most of the larger, dangerous demons CAN'T be made pets, only the little guys. So...yeah, it's extremely dangerous, and it's very tough even to grind out for a hexing focus.

Magic aura: that one's a little less clear. Is it a spell essence (fish)? If so it might be the aetherial spell "sense magic auras", and you just need to eat it. "Magic aura" is also the material name for silence burst and aether burst, although i wouldn't think there would be a material leftover from those, but maybe it's a leftover from casting one of those? Unsure, I'm grasping. Got any more info?

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: Sanguis on September 17, 2021, 08:25:56 pm

I read about this item on spellcraft page. It is a sindrome bomb which explodes in your inventory. About hexing: do I need to actually summon the demons or only do the reaction to get it?

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on September 17, 2021, 08:38:19 pm

Only do the reaction, I would suppose!

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: Sanguis on September 17, 2021, 09:01:06 pm

Finally! The legendary hexing focus! Where do I dump the two whole pages of demon summoning essence thou....

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: Sanguis on September 17, 2021, 09:16:13 pm

How many spells are there in one school? I already have 3 in pyromancy but new ones dont seem to appear

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on September 18, 2021, 11:44:50 am

Nice work on the hexing focus! Obviously you should go to a quaint field and use all those essences at once! ;)

Oh, I should add a spell list to the OP. As of v1.1.01:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Studying in general has 1
Aetherial wizardry has 8, and others from becoming a sorcerer, and others from the silence secret
Miracle wizardry has 18, and more from the miracle secret
Pyromancy wizards have just 3, but the pyromancy secret has more, and there's a spell exclusively learned from chaos witches
Polybestia wizards have 15, and more from the secret - which itself has two variants (plants and animals)
Dementia has 5, and more from the shadowmancy secret

These numbers seem wildly different, but I tried to make it so that it would take about the same amount of studies (~100) to get all essences in each school. And the numbers will be rebalanced a bit in the future. (As mentioned, I'm holding the next update until there's something major to fix).

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: Sanguis on September 18, 2021, 04:13:48 pm

Dementia indoctrination does not  appear  on the ability list. Does this list have a limit on how many abilities can you have? Or is it some other problem?

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: Sanguis on September 18, 2021, 04:26:48 pm

Seems like it has a limit. Is there a way to fix it?

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on September 18, 2021, 04:52:49 pm

Now that's something I don't have any idea about. I hope this isn't a vanilla limit - I'm trying to think of any other mod authors who might have introduced so many abilities in the adventure screen...
If it's a vanilla limit that kind of sucks. But i guess then adventurers have to kind of choose how they specialize...

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: Sanguis on September 18, 2021, 04:55:38 pm

Or not. That gone completely strange. I ate an aether spell essence to check if the list has a limit. It did not appear. I reloaded the game walked a couple of locations and it appeared. But the dementia spell hasnt

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on September 18, 2021, 07:30:51 pm

I actually think this is an issue with the indoctrination spell itself - it has a few lines of code missing compared to other spell essences. I need to confer with erik to confirm whether it's a bug or intention, I don't quite have this one sorted out myself. But looking at the code, I bet if you get another new dementia spell, it will show up as normal!

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: Sanguis on September 18, 2021, 08:13:22 pm

By the way, where the chaos witch is found? They are people who read te pyromancy slab?
Ps: how can I disable mer before world generation? Their sites seem to be unreachable by other civs so in old worlds mer are billion and other are few.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on September 19, 2021, 09:53:48 am

I kind of thought that was why sahuagin were a thing, but maybe we need yet another warmongering ocean civ to further balance things out.

Unless there's a bug that means even other ocean civs are unable to reach each other, which I hadn't really considered.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on September 19, 2021, 12:23:45 pm

Also on the topic of bugs, I tried to start a gob fort but it seems that the default embark conditions for goblins are bugged since they don't have access to picks as a civ. I assume that's an oversight and not intended behaviour.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on September 19, 2021, 10:03:16 pm

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Goblins are bugged, can't start with pick

Ah, the embark profile itself is bugged. It should give them "tunneler" instead of pick. I bet there are other civs with this issue; i'll review.
   Every civilization has a pick, but some of them have it listed as either "mattock" or "tunneler" instead. I may remove this, the mod has outgrown it; but anyway everyone can start with a pick. Let me know if tunneler isn't showing up for goblins, that would be a problem.

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Where can I find chaos witches / pyromancy slab?

That's actually two different questions. Chaos witches are in the Magma Sea; they can swim in lava so they may come up to your fort from magma smelters or magma pools. The config file c_variation_highfantasy also give you the option to let them spawn on layer 3, which may or may not be the only way to see them in adventure mode (I'm not sure, can you visit the magma sea in adventure mode?)
    The pyromancy slab would be carried by pyromancers, who are secret-keepers that don't build towers (same with miracles secret, silencers, and druid/nature secret. Not all of these have slabs; some of the are just master and apprentice). Pyromancers are never towers, but whether they are slab or just master/apprentice is something I need to refresh myself on. I suspect just master/apprentice, so it may be quite hard to find one.
   One thing that IS bugged is chaos witches and other creatures dropping foci as a kill reward. It doesn't currently work right, but I think I've got it fixed for v1.1.1 eventually. (it was Extra Butcher Object, but you can't butcher sapients...now it's an "unusual corpse" in 1.1.1 instead).

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Merfolk civs are too big

Interesting, I've never had that problem. For example Save10 has 9000 mer vs 40000 dwarves, elves, goblins. And as Plump suggested, the sahuagin and naga are supposed to help contain this. I'll make sure that both sahuagin and naga have "can expand over oceans" which should help more.
If you want to disable Mer, they are the first entity in the file entity_highfantasy_modded, which also contains sahuagin, halflings, and hobgoblins.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: Sanguis on September 19, 2021, 10:29:04 pm

Thanks for the answer. I actually asked about mer becaue I have 9000 humans 5000 dwarves 5000 goblins 3000 orcs 30000 hangels aaaaand........ 96000 mer

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: Splint on September 20, 2021, 03:30:51 am

ocean-based civs in general tend to become very numerous very quickly, mainly due to a simple lack of competition. The healthiest civs in SVE (which this pack contains elements of,) are often the fish people, which I can only assume is because they don't really have to compete with the groundwalkers for settlement space or anything and they're largely ethically compatible with one another leading to infrequent wars at best among themselves.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on September 20, 2021, 09:22:23 am

Re: dementia indoctrination - I asked erik. I thin it's just a bug that you can't learn that one properly, and i know where the bug would be

Re: Merfolk:Agree with Splint, hence why there is additional competition. Edit: I did check the "ocean spreadiness" of naga and sahuagin, and it's identical to merfolk... I wonder if this was just a one-time boom or...

Sanguis, what strikes me about your numbers is that you have 30k hangels; I usually run worlds for about 75 years and usually there are less than 100 hangels left, which makes sense since they only create one single civ. How long are you generating your worlds for? Not that it's wrong, I just wonder if you're doing something I'm not. Also, you listed 6 civs, are you using the other 8? (Sahuagins, Hobgoblins, Naga, Elves, and the thief civs?)

Regarding secrets and slabs:
"Supernatural" = gift from the gods. "Teaching" = taught by master to disciples. "Recording" = Slabs. "Research" = does not currently work (due to being unfinished in Vanilla)
   silence: supernatural, teaching, recording, research
   nature: supernatural, teaching, recording
   fire: supernatural, teaching, recording
   shadow/birth: supernatural, teaching
   divine: supernatural, teaching
So shadow and divine secrets don't have slabs.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on September 20, 2021, 08:15:15 pm

So "shadow" and "birth" are two parts of the same secret? I was wondering why legends mode was always saying the shadowmancers in my worlds learned "the secret of unnatural birth".  :P

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: VABritto on September 21, 2021, 09:54:57 pm

I am loving this mod. Very good job mate!

Some comments I have so far:
1) The only incident I have had so far is that for some reason a 1 year old human girl died of thirst and hunger randomly. Don't know if it was her mother who just didn't feed her or what, but just thought you should know.
2) Some of the entity files need revision. The Augustus title of the hobgoblins wasn't working because it had a population requirement. Some others had that as well, I don't quite recall. There was also some problem with the tags, in which you used a tag from the goblin civilization as the person who was to appoint someone from another civilization (I think it was one of those aquatic ones, can't recall which exactly though - the one with the slavers)

I am currently playing as humans and am finding it very fun.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on September 21, 2021, 11:19:26 pm

Another bug I'd like to report, from some more testing I've done in the arena it seems that red dragons spontaneously melt as soon they're placed. No idea what could be causing this, since it happens before they even have the chance to breathe fire.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on September 22, 2021, 11:18:20 am

Welcome, VABritto, Thank you everyone!

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Red dragons spontaneously melt

I think I've got this fixed; also applied the suspected fix to other red draconic things (adding "no heatdam point")

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Some titles aren't working because they have population requirements

I'll learn how this works and fix it for the next version, which will be ready soon.

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A problem with the tags in which you used a tag from the goblin civilization... to appoint

This one I can't find - I thought I fixed all these back in 1.0.3. Can you do us a huge favor and check again for where it is? I don't see the culprit.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on September 22, 2021, 04:03:04 pm

Thanks again for your help kiira. Really been enjoying this mod so far (I especially like the orcs, role-playing a sieger civilization is a lot of fun as it turns out, currently building my own personal version of Isengard in fort mode), looking forward to the next version! :)

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on September 22, 2021, 05:45:13 pm

Glad to hear it! That sounds VERY cool.
One of the best things about Highfantasy not using DFHack is that I'm excited to be able to push out a release very soon after Premium is released, and premium is gonna be HUGE for us because of the better ability to make aboveground structures.

I'm trying to trickle down the updates, I hate breaking peoples' (and my own) fortresses all the time. 1.1.0 was the last other mod imports I wanted to add and 1.1.1 should be pretty much the last content, there's a TON of changes but they're all very very small that build up to a nice core. From there it's just tiny bugfixes, which i can stock up until there's something that needs to be addressed badly. A loooot of people downloaded 1.1.0 so I'm conscious of that.

Plump I guess you can think of this Isengard as your learning experience and do it even faster this weekend! haha

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on September 22, 2021, 06:35:16 pm

Lmao I guess I can, I've also started a dwarf fort in another more recent Highfantasy world of mine (which I've started recording the progress of in community games & stories *coughnotashamelessselfplugcough*). I might just hold onto a separate save of the current version for that one.

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: VABritto on September 22, 2021, 08:38:02 pm

Hey there Kiiranaux! I have downloaded a fresh install of Highfantasy to help on the bugfixes (on my own game I made my own little cosmetic differences just for rp purposes, like substituting instances of "royal" in Plains entity with "imperial" because the leader is an Emperor, that sort of thing).

So I'm writing as I see them ok? So sorry if it isn't that structured.

In ENTITY:PLAINS, [POSITION:hf_KING] has the tag [REQUIRES_POPULATION:140]. This will prevent the position from being generated. Removing it solves the problem.

In [ENTITY:RIVERS], all positions that are supposed to be appointed by [POSITION:VOICE] are actually with the tag [APPOINTED_BY:DRUID].

In [ENTITY:CUNNING], [POSITION:hf_KING] has the tag [REQUIRES_POPULATION:140]. [POSITION:MAYOR] doesn't have any tag for how it is selected so it will never generate. REQUIRES_POPULATION is not enough.

In [ENTITY:RELAXED], [POSITION:LEADER_HOBBIT] has the tag [EXPORTED_IN_LEGENDS]. This would make every mayor appear in the history file in the list of rulers. This should only be on those civ level leadership positions you'd consider the "rulers" of the country, because it is a list.

In [ENTITY:TOOTHY], [POSITION:LEADER_SAH] shouldn't have the tag [EXPORTED_IN_LEGENDS].

In [ENTITY:FALLEN], [POSITION:hf_KING] shouldn't have the tag [REQUIRES_POPULATION:140].

In [ENTITY:SLINKING], [POSITION:LEADER_NAGA] shouldn't [EXPORTED_IN_LEGENDS].

In [ENTITY:SNATCHING], position [POSITION:hordes_TRIBAL_CHIEFTAIN_GOBLIN] shouldn't have the tag [EXPORTED_IN_LEGENDS].

In [ENTITY:HISSING], it appears that the position [POSITION:LEADER_LIZ] is chosen by the Goblin position [APPOINTED_BY:hordes_START_POSITION]. I think you meant to have it be chosen by a Hissing start position, but you forgot to make it and used the goblin start position tag. Also it shouldn't have the tag [EXPORTED_IN_LEGENDS].

In [ENTITY:PLOTTING], [POSITION:LEADER_TECH] shouldn't have the tag [EXPORTED_IN_LEGENDS].

I hope this helps!

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on September 22, 2021, 11:03:57 pm

Thank you so much, it was very generous of you to document these so thoroughly!
Also,this was the last info I needed to push out the just-finished update! So everyone can look for that Friday! (finishing up documentation)

EDIT: TONS of new documentation added to OP, post 2, and especially post 3.
Post 2 includes a changelog for the new update (v1.1.1 and v1.2.0)

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.1.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on September 24, 2021, 03:45:10 pm

Version 1.2.01, the Creature Class Update, is live!

(https://i.imgur.com/FfYz2A4.png)

This version finishes the final balance pass of the mod by reviewing and completely integrating magic spells, weaknesses, and resistances from all areas of Highfantasy. Lineage creatures are clearly associated and resistant to their own lineage; elemental creatures follow elemental themes; and magical creatures battle it out with competing powers. When you are ready to check out this version, a fresh install is recommended. Future versions will mainly address major bugs.

A great deal of information has been added to the OP post #3 explaining all elements of the mod; additionally, a "lore" dive into the mod's magic system and its internal consistency is present on OP post #1.

Versions 1.1.1 and 1.2.0/1 were combined into a single release. Where 1.1.1 covers the above, 1.2.0 introduces the following major features:
-adds Cryomancy as a "limited" fort/adv magic school.
-adds the Pristinely Ungifted humans, Failed Hybrids, more elementals, scarab beetles, and khezu
-restores Frost (Ice) Giants from Spellcrafts as a tribal/population creature, and two Fiends from Tb_dnd in their hell versions only.
-restores a number of creatures and plants from SPL vanilla expanded v9.1 and earlier
-continues and concludes balancing of magical focus acquisition, and incorporates the Magestaff into magical research
-works around vanilla bugs related to monsters "hide"ing
-finishes rewriting all major descriptions to match the vanilla format "A... creature... that...."

"Big Cats and Lap Dogs," a standalone and completely vanilla file that introduces two more common_domestic creatures, forest cats* and lap dogs, which perform the functions of dogs and cats, respectively, in case you really prefer one species or the other. They are 100% vanilla and in their own file, creature_highfantasy_domestic, so can be used with pretty much any other mod.
*They're based on servals, but are a little bigger. Although known from the savanna, servals do in fact inhabit oak forests.

Full feature list:

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Worked on v1.2.0 and v1.1.1 interchangeably, as 1.1.1 the "Creature Class Update" became 1.2.0 the "Final? Content Update"
v1.2.01
Bugs: fixed a bug where civs had stopped spawning because everyone was [FEMALE]
Bugs: dryads were missing a tag that stopped them from spawning
Bugs: as a side effect of the work from VABritto, finally squashed a longstanding bug causing some civs to generate vanilla lowercase leaders despite code suggesting otherwise
Files: deleted "descriptor_color_spellcrafts_civ" as it caused demon names that looked wrong, and we weren't using it anyway
Entities: multiple small changes to improve position name flavor (thanks VABritto for identifying many of them)
v1.2.0
Files: updated and copied OP Post 3, with all the guide info, into a PDF file to distribute with the mod
Additions: added Cryomancy as an "aborted" fort/adv magic school. Basically, your wizard is trying to learn necromancy, but discovers ice spells instead. (It doesn't have a unique focus; resonate two aether foci together.)
Additions: added the Pristinely Ungifted humans, another lineage, who are resistant to magic and also can't learn magic, explaining how humans in the mod story/setting are the only creatures with [OUTSIDER], always able to survive.
Additions: added Failed Hybrids, humanoid [GOOD] creatures that help finish telling the mod story/setting
Additions: added salt (water), energy (fire), steam (water+fire), smoke (fire+air), and dust (earth+air) elementals to round out the set.
Additions: added back Frost (Ice) Giants from Spellcrafts as a tribal/population creature, because Jotun are very iconic and we didn't have any substitute quite yet. They are another creature that can unlock sorcery, like dryads and carp.
Additions: added back two more tb_dnd_fiend s in their hell versions only.
Additions: added scarab beetles and their variations
Additions: added forest cats and lap dogs, which perform the functions of dogs and cats, respectively, in case you really prefer one species or the other. They are 100% vanilla and in their own file, creature_highfantasy_domestic, so it's basically a standalone mini-mod.
Additions: added Khezu ("Pale Wyvern"), which is acid-based (although also paralyze immune), rounding out the set of 5 non-standard elemental dragons to match the 5 standard elemental dragons. (Wyvern is poison based, and philia are r/w/b)
Additions: split skelk into skelk minions, which work as before but don't naturally spawn, and matriarchs, which naturally spawn and have difficulty 11, meaning they won't be assigned as quests in adventure mode. This is important because they suffer from the vanilla Enemy Invisibility bug.
Additions from SPL Vanilla Expanded, v9.1 or earlier:
   plant_surface_trees, because they are all [SAVAGE][GOOD]or[EVIL], except giant bamboo, and help identify those biomes
   plant_surface_shrubs: mostly just the real ones. Why not others? Balance, and the need to find specific plants for spellcrafts and adventurecraft things.
   plant_surface_grass: just chimegrass
   creature_fish_cavern_ex: added all these vermin and the grotto shark; skipped cap grabbers; added HF layer toggles to them
   creature_fish_surface_ex: added, except the mythical goldfish
   creature_birds_surface_ex: added, and standardized animalman sizes for armor
   creatures_invertibrates_surface_ex: added, although its files are split between here and the old version of the file... messy
   creatures_entities_ex: hill dogs (dwarves) and siege turtles (mer)
   materials: added black steel and white gold; gave them to any entities that can make steel.
   ported: - Nightwings have been rendered slow learners, allowing Dark Pit civs to potentially field them as minions like they might blizzard men, ogres, and trolls.
   ported: - One- and two-humped camels given innate discipline for when they're used as mounts.
   ported: - Bumblebees can now be hived, so you can get their products for units who like them.
   NOTES: SPL/ex has a lot of other creatures that we didn't use, but can be placed into Highfantasy pretty easily on your own. Will note this on the "compatibility" page of the OP.
Interactions: Increased cast timer of Invisibility to Once a week in fort mode, once an hour in adventure mode. This effects Oni, Stalkers, Skelk, Lesser Imps, faerie dragons, all 4 genie types, and all Shadow Lineage caste creatures; but...
Interactions: Removed Invisibility from Lesser Imps, Faerie Dragons, and Genies due to the above.
Interactions: the game-ending megabeast now has Cave-in Dust, usable a little less than once a day in fort mode.
Interactions: changed any reference to the old spellcrafts school names in the interactions of spell essences to the new school names. did not bother changing the names in the SYNDROMEs, only in the CE_CAN_DO_INTERACTIONs.
Interactions: added "slab recording" for shadowmancy secret because it's more fun, even if it seems like some super dark magic
Interactions: rewrote the code for polymorphy reactions so that in addition to keeping your gender when used on a humanoid creature, it will also now work by default on other creatures from dogs to dinosaurs to dragons. (The best part is that animalpeople are immune to polymorphy so i was able to skip adding m/f tags for all their constituent animals. Excelsior!)
Interactions:    easter egg: doppelgangers, when polymorphed, are often polymorphed to the wrong gender, due to ability to confuse the caster
Interactions: gave Cave Fish Men the magic to teach Temporary NoBreathing, a spellcrafts spell from the now-removed Furry Cave Shark creature.
Interactions: gave Cave Swallow Men the magic to teach Temporary Extravision, like the above.
Entities: amphibian men are now a 3rd selection in the "level 2" cave civilizations. This balances that fact that adding cavern screechers to the "level 1" cave civs meant there were 5 options for level 1, and only 2 options for level 2; plus, amphibian men were feeling a bit lost in the mess of the rest of the caverns.
Entities: enabled reactions for studying polymorphy (basic), cryo magic (necromancy), crafting the pyro focus, and crafting an icestorm basin to magic entities
Entities: merfolk now properly exclude animal people from their amphibian pets
Entities: human guardsmen and such are called "imperial" rather than "royal" (thanks VABritto)
Entities: re-enabled Picks for goblins (they had an alternate pick, but...forget it). Their embark profile should work again.
Entities: re-enabled sky sharks as always pet for sahuagin. Unsure when this was disabled, presumably before 1.0.0. Also added grotto sharks from SPL. (Not always present, just pet)
Entities: Because they have unique weapon philosophies, Mer and Dark gnome (creature) profession names have been updated.
Entities: dark gnome civilization now have access to hatchets for treecutting. I wouldn't count on them for combat, though... stick to the golems for that.
   By the way, you can also use the conjuring circle to conjure an aether axe, even for elves, who otherwise still have no axes.
Creatures: All elementals are now /weak/ to aetherial magic and spell-iron but highly resistant to all other damage (1/5, was 3/5). They are also generally immune to elemental damage sources, although air works on air (shock/lightning does not).
Creatures: On the other hand, all genies are now highly /resistant/ to aetherial magic. They have the same elemental damage resistances as elementals.
Creatures: Fire genies are no longer resistant to dragonfire; that seemed a bit extreme.
Creatures: Dragons, Chimeras, and Drakes - Black and Green are half as common, so together they equal the ratio of one of the three other domains
Creatures: ported spellcrafts improvement to Feedling summoning of food (no longer requires nest box)
Creatures: ported spellcrafts improvement to minidwarves now produce coins, not bars; also, they are now creature_class:dwarf which effects nothing.
Creatures: nephilim difficulty (quest xp) increased from 3 to 6
Creatures: skelk (matriarchs) and oni now have difficulty: 11 to stop them being assigned as quests in adventure mode, since they Hide.
Creatures: sahuagins now swim innate, rather than learned; this was an oversight.
Creatures: Hybrids now join Lizal and others as not creature_class:general poison, giving a huge advantage against poisons.
Creatures: ZM5 Resolve Breakers (formerly named Resolution Breaker, Gemini - same thing) now have a psionic attack but are also now weak again lucid iron, just like other psi creatures
Creatures: Behirs moved to cavern layer 2; was 0-1
Creatures: Gnome golems are now /extremely/ weak to electricity, of the kind you might find breathed out of blue draconic things
Names/Descriptions: the three Dementia bosses are now unified by a naming convention, "hollow one" instead of "hollow" (1 word dementia creatures are minions).
   this also gave the opportunity to restore ZM5's chosen name to the "Dessicated (One)"; was "Assemblage" in 1.0.01
   Also confirmed that all three spawn in groups of just one... get it?
Names/Descriptions: Added descriptions to the thoughtless, sightless, and moldslaves that spawn NATURALLY to distinguish them from the summoned minions.
   In the case of moldslaves, also called them "aged" to fit goblin pet name standards, since they don't need to follow the Dementia/Eldritch naming conventions (thoughless/sightless do.)
Names/Descriptions: Crystal charger shrunk 10x and renamed to Carbuncle, which is not just a FF ip name but also a Chilean mythical creature.
Names/Descriptions: Restored the vanilla name to Green Devourers; note that devourer scorpions (aboveground) are something totally different
Names/Descriptions: Bulette is now land shark, removing an ip-based name. Behir is now lightning crawler. Things like basilisk are multimedia, but bulette is pretty dnd-specific. Plus, it matches sky sharks. Did you know we have sky sharks?
Names/Descriptions: Philia is now bipedal dragon, removing an ip-based name.
Names/Descriptions: Renamed goroistro to "agitator." Succubi are established fantasy creatures, as is now the balor (especially given the tolkien influence of this mod), and mariliths are from indian folklore.
Names/Descriptions: Meanwhile the underground versions of these and other demons had names changed to fit a "seven deadly sins" theme. Completed names/descriptions pass on tb_dnd_fiends.
Names/Descriptions: Ents renamed to simply Treefolk. What would you call it if a tree just up and hit you? ip-based name. (maybe we should just call them trees... hehe)
Names/Descriptions: Hybrids are renamed to chimeric hybrids, and had their color changed to be the same as necromancer failed experiments
Names/Descriptions: Eastern/Sky dragons renamed to guardian dragons... i've been looking for a new name for a while
Names/Descriptions: changed the display name for the miracle secret to channeler
Names/Descriptions: changed the secret-discovery names for nature and for shadows to differ slightly based on the sphere they were discovered through (animals/trees, birth/darkness)
Reactions: All item conjuring reactions now use TRAPPING instead of ALCHEMY, to match summoning reactions. Considering that the altar uses concentration and the bronze golem uses mechanics, this diversifies the use of skills in the fort magic system. It also makes sense given the clear purpose of the planar tome as of 1.0.0.
Reactions: The fort and adv mode reactions "attempt to create a fireball basin, fail, but have 1% chance to succeed in making a pyromancy focus" are now MUCH more player friendly by preserving reagents and discarding the milk bulb (but not the bar of ash).
Reactions: Added a reaction to adv mode which, like the failed fireball basin, attempts to transmute stone to metal but has a 4% chance to succeed in creating a light yellow diamond. (Still requires a grimoire, so not a solution to the scarcity problem).
Reactions: The fort mode reaction "exchange - aether salts" has been renamed "exchange - exotic items" and is much, much less generous now.
Reactions: moved generic disease resist + cleaning back to general from divine school
Reactions: moved unused generic earth spell to polymorphy
Reactions: pushed basins (aka, tower defense devices) back even farther in the tech tree; creating a basin now requires the consumption of a focus but is now back to 100% success (was 85)
Materials: made a bunch of changes to ensure that you can always train alchemy in the fort even if not playing with cheats and therefore unable to enable the alchemy skill manually
   the Magestaff now trains the Alchemy skill, which is important because it's not easy to enable alchemy and migrants don't necessarily arrive with it.
   the magestaff is now created through specific reactions only, at the wizard workshop, using ENCRUSTGEM and a rough gem. This also helps rebalance it as an "elite" weapon like guns.
   changed the spellcrafts building requirements to take any rough gem, not just diamonds, so that the building itself can be constructed early on...
   updated the BUILDLABOR of the conjurer's circle to TRAPPER, from ALCHEMIST, to match its reactions; the enchanting table to MECHANICS for the same reason
   ...but re-added the diamond requirement on the grimoire itself in fort mode (like in adv mode) to keep magic far back in the tech tree
   charges for the magestaff are now created through specific reactions only, at the wizard workshop, using CUTGEM and a rough gem. Gems have more uses that ever!
   these charges are always* made of aether, so aether-resistant creatures are even resistant to the spell attack of the magestaff.
   In addition to training alchemy, this addresses the fact that the Magestaff was the last remaining weapon not balanced against Sver's weapon combat values.
   *gnome "magitek" boost - dark gnomes (and angels) can still craft magestaffs and charges out of any material, and can embark with them
   for other entities, removed the magestaff and bolts as cultural weapons so they can't be made out of anything.
   Created the reactions "..STAFF" and "...SPELLBOLTS" which were defined in entities, but did not exist; added them in fort and adv mode
Materials: *drumroll please* ... crafting spellbolts now has a 1% chance to produce a faint yellow diamond, fixing the scarcity problem.
Materials: the grimoire and the spellstaff both require aether salt to create, which means little since it's free to scavenge for.
Materials: Slightly adjusted material values of foci to rise with difficulty of obtaining. You can now start ADV mode with a planar tome.
Materials: All foci can now be made from hard, soft, or metal components (for starting as a flavorful adventure mode wizard)
Materials: Removed aether-metal anvils, for balance purposes, because every civ was able to embark with them. Not every civ having access to iron/steel anvils is a core part of the DF vanilla experience.
Materials: The focus reward for killing an aetherial has been upgraded to a planar tome.
Materials: All aboveground elementals now drop an aether focus as the reward for killing them; that's a LOT of options
Materials: In a pinch, you can now make blunt attacks with a grimoire (FFXIV-style).
Materials: made cold iron effective against demon vermin
Materials: made iron (regular) effective against fey and feytouched creatures
Materials: lowered drakes' item values from 7 to 3, since chimeras are only a 4x
Bugs: Duplicate creatures - deleted EX coconut crabs and spider crabs, and VVV version of centipedes. There's... not really rhyme or reason to it.
Bugs: Duplicate plants - deleted VVV cloudberry, since adventurecraft already fleshes out the vanilla cloudberry plant
Bugs: great dragon, drake, chimera, philia - added "no heatdam" to materials to hoepfully stop red dragons from spontaneously melting
Bugs: fixed some remaining bugs with entity positions leaders. Many thanks to VABritto who documented the needed changes thoroughly.
Bugs: fixed a bug that stopped succubi from SENSE-ing potential mates, then corrected that same line of code where I had copied it to Lamias
Bugs: fixed multiple Spellcrafts bugs related to CE_SENSE_CREATURE_CLASS using "START" as the class improperly
Bugs: fixed errors preventing the inclusion of lorises; they're back.
Bugs: fixed a bug causing the dementia indoctrination spell to be un-usable
Bugs: death-dropping of foci was actually broken on most creatures because of the vanilla bug preventing butchering of sentients. Fixed them to dissappear into smoke and leave the focus behind, except for the chimeras and hollow.
Code Cleanup: Annihilator's calling interaction moved from ZM5 to HF text file
Code Cleanup: Removed unused ZM5 lurks below/cavern revamp minions from the raws. There was nothing to spawn them anyway. Keep this in mind if manually adding back in other lurks below / cavern revamp creatures.
Code Cleanup: Removed unused ZM5 file "inorganic_cavern_revamp_zm5"
Code Cleanup: Split off all the real-world animals from creature_highfantasy into creature_highfantasy_animals

v1.1.1
Code Cleanup: Note! even though most Creature Classes from mods are underused, never remove them; simply add the right one and mix compatibility as needed. You never know when someone will suddenly decide to make "creature_class:beetle" matter...
Code Cleanup: NON-FUNCTIONAL creature class additions:
   3 spelldivine creatures are now ccCelestial
   gorgons are now cchumanoid and ccMONSTROUS_HUMANOID
   5 creatures in SPELL_ACHWURM are now ccOUTSIDER, as are 2 in SPELL_EXTRADIMENSIONAL
   ice and vacuum elementals are no longer ccSPELL_FEY
   lizardmen are now ccLIZARD
   unicorn and pegasus are now ccGOOD
   chimeric hybrids, failed hybrids, and chimeras are now ccHYBRID. griffons already were.
   nymphs are now ccWATER_ELEMENTAL like neriads, oriads
   golems are now ccMECHANICAL_ZM   ccCONSTRUCT
   ZM5 border of hell vermin (3) got ccDEMON_PET and ccFIEND; hell hounds got ccDEMONIC_ZM; soul wisps got ccDEMON_PET
Code Additions: FUNCTIONAL creature class additions:
   3 spelldivine creatures are now ccHOLYIMMUNE and 2 others are now ccFIEND
   the underworld versions of tb_dnd_fiend s and cr hell vermin are ccTURNIMMUNE, this stops them from being hurt by antievil bolt; they are "stronger" because they've been in hell. Explains why antievil bolt doesn't work on vanilla demons.
   siege weapins and gnome golems and many spellcrafts creatures are ccNORAISE
   carbuncles, like ungifted humans, are ccMAGIC_IMMUNE
   resolve breakers are now ccPSYIMMUNE
   gargoyles are no longer ccELEMENTAL, but keep earth advantages
   lorises and lemurs are now ccMONKEY
   toads, skales, and skelk are now ccAMPHIBIAN
   vacuum (spellcrafts air) elementals are now ccINCORPOREAL, like tb_dnd ones
   water and air (tb_dnd) elementals are now ccINORGANIC, like spellcrafts ones
   faerie dragons are no longer ccMONSTER
   dryads (spellcrafts) are now ccNATURE_ZM, ccFEY, and ccSPELL_PLANTSHROOM, and ccHUMANOID for good measure
   mushroom men (spell), cactus men (HF), treefolk, walking gingko, and tanglethorn are now ccNATURE_ZM and ccSPELL_PLANTSHROOM
   ZM5 cavern plant creatures are now ccSPELL_PLANTSHROOM; they and cavern mold creatures are also ccNATURE_ZM
   VVV creatures with ccCARNIVORE_MAMMAL are now also ccLIKES_MEAT
   air beast (spell) is ccINORGANIC, ccAIR_ELEMENTAL, and ccGAS, but not incorporeal; they are also the new only ccAIR_IMMUNE.
   water elemental things are now both ccCOLDIMMUNE ccCOLD_IMMUNE
   air elemental things are now both ccSHOCKIMMUNE ccLIGHTNING_IMMUNE
   fire elemental things are now both ccFIREIMMUNE and have MAGMAVISION (earth elemental things were already ccPETRIFYIMMUNE)
   fey things are no longer ccGENERAL_POISON, are ccACIDIMMUNE
   planetouched creatures are now straight up immune to a school of magic
      "tieflings" to pyromancy (although taking a rock of magma to the face still hurts)
      "aasimar" to divine magic and lightning
      "feytouched" to polymorphy, acid, and poison (but still GENERAL_POISON)
      "shadowtouched" to dementia magic, but not to the full dark magic of the eldritch creatures
      "genasi" to ALL aetherial magic PLUS the elemental magic school they are associated with
      "drow" are resistant to aetherial magic but not immune
     ---Interactions and/or Inorganics:
   ghoul poison (tb dnd) now also does not effect [SYN_IMMUNE_CLASS:GOLEM][SYN_IMMUNE_CLASS:INORGANIC][SYN_IMMUNE_CLASS:MECHANICAL_ZM]
   ZM5 petrifying gas now does not effect ccPETRIFY_IMMUNE
   spell_aetherial_sense_auras can also properly sense poison-dragon things, which would otherwise have been overlooked. It's possible poison dragons are immune to some other reactions they shouldn't be; will watch this over time.
   many materials in many inorganic_spellcrafts: added magic_immune and aether_immune (and 2 shadow_immune) as necessary
   many interactions in interaction_spellcrafts_sch_d: added ccpoly_immune as immune for poly reactions
   antievil bolts are no longer effective against eldritch creatures nor shadowtouched lineages, but do now hit spellcrafts undead
   noraise as an immunity class to: shadow raise, all spellcraft reanimations, eldritch/mold raise from cavern revamp/lurksbelow
   other additions of sensible resisting classes to the interactions themselves, generally such that holy can't hit holy, etc
      dementia wizard school is considered "weak" eldritch magic; shadow can block shadow but can't block dementia
     ---Entirely New:
   new class:    [SYN_IMMUNE_CLASS:SHADOW_IMMUNE]   specific to dementia magic
      creatures: dark dweller, shadow lineages
      spells: dementia spells
   new class:    [SYN_IMMUNE_CLASS:POLY_IMMUNE]      specific to polymorph magic
      creatures: dryad, nymph, oread, neriad, pixie, faerie, will o' wisp, faerie dragon; animalpeople CVs; underground animal people; carp men
      spells: polymorphy spells
   new class:    [SYN_IMMUNE_CLASS:HORROR_IMMUNE]   specific to eldritch attacks
      creatures: NONE (cannot add a creature class via syndrom
      spells: Annihilator dust, burning pain, sightless transformation, thoughtless infection, others

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: VABritto on September 24, 2021, 04:15:35 pm

Reporting bug: In [ENTITY:PLAINS], [POSITION:hf_LORD] should have the tags [APPOINTED_BY:hf_START] [SUCCESSION:BY_POSITION:hf_HEIR]

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: kiiranaux on September 24, 2021, 04:30:08 pm

Hotfix'd! Thanks for catching that early, before the weekend download rush! haha

Title: Re: Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.01: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major)[47.05]
Post by: VABritto on September 24, 2021, 04:34:42 pm

Quote from: kiiranaux on September 24, 2021, 04:30:08 pm

Hotfix'd! Thanks for catching that early, before the weekend download rush! haha

Glad to help! This will be fun! As always I did some personal modifications for RP purposes (I sent you a message with them in case you find them interesting), but will mostly be playing mod-vanilla, because your mod is pretty much how I always wanted to play DF lol

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: VABritto on September 26, 2021, 06:43:45 pm

I am RPing that the Imperial Legate writes an annual report given to the Imperial Emissary when he visits. As such, I am writing a log of sort with things that were done. Here is what I have so far:

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Yearly Legationary Report for the Outpost of Feywreath.

In the 46th year of the reign of His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Inbew of the House of Huram,

Granite. Feywreath was founded. I Tesgenatha Izroshkofi, Legate of His Imperial Majesty, have been tasked with overseeing the settling of this new colony and give proper support and council to whoever the Faywreathians decide to rule over them as Lord. As of now, however, there is little talk of Lordship. The initial settlers are 7, including myself. Messrs. Ulek Lesec, Ujozom Wumolcescu and Cobsit Olourwawko, as well as Mmes. Last Uzustrubgano, Heg Ejatihurultisnastha and Matug Pocwut. The first order of business was to build a simple hall for shelter and to store food, as well as to start building barrels to properly store everything we need. We have brought with us two lions, two rhinoseros and two waterbuffalos, each a couple, as well as three sheep, three turkeys, three pigs and a cat. Feywreath Castle will be set on top of a steap cliff facing south to the valley below in the Depressed Lowland. Up North we have a small river. We are three days travel from the nearest settlement of our people, the Hamlet of Pertinenceplaited. Our closest human neighbours are under the jurisdiction of the vile and thieving Emperor Acsutdusha of the House of Hashestrok, over a day's travel from here. Closer still are many Goblin settlements that surround the countryside. For now we do not have any contact with them, but I am weary of not having any walls set up for our defense. I have talked to the settlers and they too seem worried at our current state. We plan on building walls as soon as possible around this high hill. I have taken upon myself the task of the village carpenter, making all the wooden furnature and utilities that Faywreath needs. Mrs. Last is digging a channel to the river and we intend to make an artificial well fed by said channel. I am building wooden mechanisms to control the floodgates that will keep the water under control.

Slate. Mmes. Heg and Matug were attacked by an alligator and were seriously wounded. Mrs. Heg would have probably been killed if one of our lions didn't rescue her and dispatched the monster. This land is full of ferocious creatures, we have even spotted giant ants wandering about. The faster that we create the wall and have a Lord to organize the defenses, the better.

Legate Tesgenatha was killed by an alligator in the end of the month of Slate. I, Ulek Lesec, take his charge as temporary Imperial Legate. When the Emissary arrive I will speak to him of who will substitute Mr. Tesgenatha. Most of our folk are wounded, for a great band of alligators poured through the lands attacking everyone in its wake. My main job has been to gather the wounded and tend to them, although my situation is precarious. The only ones that are in any shape to help me are Mr. Cobsit, who's responsibility is to forage for food, and Mrs. Last, who is still working on our well.

Hematite. As determined by the Imperial Emissary, I will resume now officially the functions of Legate Tesgenatha. I have given him the report made by myself and my predecessor. From Hematite onward I will continue writing the report to be given next year this month.

Malachite. Five migrants have arrived. The elderly Mr. Ismu Omaramsod and his son Horun Hurcata, together with Horun's wife Budungamarop Ethridomongub, as well as Mmes. Konom Mushcarospocpuki and Rolsu Eshrelist. This brings our population up to 11 souls. I have welcomed them to our outpost and have assigned them functions. We will need all the hands we can get. After a while I sat with them and asked them of their history. Mr. Ismu is a man of venerable age, having been born 86 winters ago. He is of a warrior disposition and does not seem to care much for intellectual conversation. His son Horun shows more of an interest in that sort of thing and has more refined manners. Father and son seem very different from one another, from mannerisms, worldview and even eye color (Ismu has tawny colored eyes while Horun's are blue), but both seem to equally have an air of coldness to them that is hard to explain. Mr. Ismu went on to say that he used to be the Sergeant of Heapclonks before migrating here, confirming my first impression of him. There he met Legate Bonena Odoocon, Horun's mother. He did not talk much about her, it seems their relationship didn't go much further. Horun himself has also seen combat, having fought in the glorious assault on Infidelityedges, that devilish goblin fort having being pillaged by him and other soldiers. His wife Budungamarop is of noble blood, having been the heiress to the lordship of the hamlet of Latitudinalcelery. She gave up her inheritance to marry Mr. Horun and come to Feywreath. Mrs. Konom had a hard life, having been enslaved by the Goblins and having to resort to criminal activities to survive at times. She is not one to talk much, but the little she did say seemed dark. I did not press her further on the matter. She seems to be a friend of Mrs. Budungamarop, having come from the same hamlet. Mrs. Rolsu has previously been a Legate for the hamlet of Skillgallstone and has chosen to come to Feywreath to help in the colonization efforts.

I suggested to the settlers that Mr. Ismu be made Lord over Feywreath, mainly because of his military experience and the fact he has an Heir already present and living with us. Given how badly we need protection in these parts, nobody argued against it. And so I confirm with my Imperial Authority that in the 46th year of the reign of Inbew, in mid Malachite, the Feywreathians have chosen Ismu Omaramsod and his House for the Lordship of this Outpost. His first order of business was to prioritize the construction of the reservoir for our well and nominated Mrs. Rolsu as outpost Physician to tend to the wounded. He also ordered the burial of Legate Tesgenatha, who we haven't been able to bury all this time because of lack of manpower.

Galena. As the well is going fast underway, Lord Ismu ordered the construction of a smithy and mandated the production of gauntlets. Legate Tesgenatha was finally buried, I took care of the matter myself.

Limestone. The well was inaugurated. It is divided into three parts. A deep hole was dug in the ground on Feywreath Hill, until it got under ground level to the river. Then a tunnel was dug through all the way to the river. A floodgate was placed on the mouth of the river-side tunnel entrance, to control exactly when water can enter the tunnel. Another floodgate was placed on the midsection for safety. Finally a third floodgate was placed near the entrance to the well. Before the well's entrance's floodgate and the mid-tunnel floodgate we constructed two large reservoirs, each with floodgates attached to them so as to store a good amount of water in case we ever need to keep the river entrance closed. After the reservoir was filled to the brim, its floodgates were closed. With the tunnel itself full, we closed the river entrance. Lord Ismu wishes that it is only open when we actually need to replenish our water supply, preventing any strange creature to enter through the river tunnel. The Lord then ordered us to remove all access we can to the hill top, and build two great gates as the only entrances. All trees near the hill are to be chopped off and a road built around it to prevent new trees from growing anytime soon.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: VABritto on September 26, 2021, 07:02:59 pm

Reported Bug: When I go to the military screen there is a "Lord" squad for some reason. When I click 'c' on top of it (the option does not appear, I just tried it), the game crashed. Not sure why. I tried it twice and it happened both times, so it is reproducible. How-To: Appoint a Lord > Go to Military Screen > Go to the squad named "Lord" > Press 'c'

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on September 26, 2021, 08:51:55 pm

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I am writing a log of sorts with things that were done

This is so cool! I also love doing things like this. Excited to see more of your writing.
"Legate Tesgenatha was killed by an alligator in the end of the month of Slate. I, Ulek Lesec, take his charge as temporary Imperial Legate."  :'(

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Lord squad bug

I'll start looking into this. It's interesting that the lord is given a squad; one is not created in the code. It's possible there is another tag that causes the position to automatically generate a squad. Anyway, in the meantime, advise not to use the lord squad, and it's not intended anyway!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: Chbost on September 27, 2021, 07:30:26 am

Hello! Love the mod and playing as the Nagas :)
I have come across what I believe to be some bugs. Nagas are unable to make the Harpoon Guns, this due to the harpoon guns requiring STEEL stocks, while producing "STEEL STOCKS" it can only be made out of wood, checking for example the Details allows for setting the materials as wooden materials, this makes Nagas unable to assemble the harpoon guns since the stock that comes out is a "Cedar Stock" rather than a steel stock.

This can be due to in the raws? (I am not a raw wizard)
[REACTION:STEEL_STOCK]
   [NAME:make steel stock]
   [BUILDING:GUN_FORGE:CUSTOM_ALT_H]
   [BUILDING:GUN_MAGMA:CUSTOM_ALT_H]
   [REAGENT:log:1:WOOD:NONE:NONE:NONE]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_STOCK_L:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:log:NONE]
   [SKILL:FORGE_WEAPON]
   [FUEL]
   [CATEGORY:STOCK]


It is set as LOG here whilst the reaction

[REACTION:MAKE_HARPOON_GUN]
   [NAME:make steel harpoon gun]
   [BUILDING:WORK_BENCH:CUSTOM_ALT_H]
   [REAGENT:lock:1:TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_SPRINGLOCK_L:METAL:STEEL]
   [REAGENT:stock:1:TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_STOCK_L:METAL:STEEL]
   [REAGENT:barrel:1:TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_BARREL_L:METAL:STEEL]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AIRGUN:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:barrel:NONE]
   [SKILL:FORGE_WEAPON]
   [CATEGORY:SPRINGS]

I think this calls for a metal stock?

Nagas are also unable to produce the Harpoon ammo. As they do not appear to have the reaction to make it available to them in the entity files. I think they need the following reaction [PERMITTED_REACTION:HARPOON]

Also Nagas appear to be unable to produce many of the coral crafts and weapons available to the MER in the reaction_highfantasy file. Their only permitted reactions regarding coral stuff/relating to the aquitects workshop is

-SI-   [PERMITTED_REACTION:FLOTSAM]
-SI-   [PERMITTED_REACTION:JETSAM]
-SI-   [PERMITTED_REACTION:naga_CORAL_BLOCKS]

This may be what you intended, that the Mer have access to the coral crafts/furniture/weapons and not the Naga, but since the Naga has the Aquitects workshop aswell it could be an interesting idea to include even the Naga in accessing those reactions.

Made an account just to say thank you for this cool mod (first post) :P And maybe help out some with a bug report.

-Best Wishes: Chbost

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on September 27, 2021, 08:22:52 am

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Naga are unable to assemble STEEL stocks

You're completely correct, this is a bug. Luckily everyone can fix this without any damage to their worlds! Simply go into your raws in the SAVE file (must be the raws specific to your save!) and change the 2 lines

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[REACTION:STEEL_STOCK]
   [NAME:make steel stock]
   [BUILDING:GUN_FORGE:CUSTOM_ALT_H]
   [BUILDING:GUN_MAGMA:CUSTOM_ALT_H]
   [REAGENT:log:1:WOOD:NONE:NONE:NONE]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_STOCK_L:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:log:NONE]
   [SKILL:FORGE_WEAPON]
   [FUEL]
   [CATEGORY:STOCK]

to

[REACTION:STEEL_STOCK]
   [NAME:make steel stock]
   [BUILDING:GUN_FORGE:CUSTOM_ALT_H]
   [BUILDING:GUN_MAGMA:CUSTOM_ALT_H]
   [REAGENT:A:150:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:STEEL]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_STOCK_L:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:NONE]
   [SKILL:FORGE_WEAPON]
   [FUEL]
   [CATEGORY:STOCK]

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Naga are missing the reaction to make harpoon ammo

Right again! To fix this one, you'll need to edit one of the generic reactions in your SAVE folder raws under reaction_modest_generic:

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Where it says
[REACTION:GENERIC_3]

Replace with
[REACTION:GENERIC_3]
   [NAME:make harpoon ammo]
   [BUILDING:BULLET_MINT:CUSTOM_ALT_H]
   [BUILDING:BULLET_MAGMA:CUSTOM_ALT_H]
   [REAGENT:metal:150:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:NONE]
   [PRODUCT:100:60:AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_HARPOON:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:metal:NONE][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:60]
   [FUEL]
   [SKILL:METALCRAFT]

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Naga don't have access to coral craftsmaking

This one is intentional, to differentiate the civs, but just like other players, there's nothing stopping you from taking one of the other coral reactions you want to play with, and using it as GENERIC_1 or GENERIC_2. Please post here if you're having any trouble editing those reactions on the fly; there's no need for you to start a new world at this time :)

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: Chbost on September 27, 2021, 10:49:31 am

Thank you for your quick reply!

The aformentioned fixes worked :)

Another problem i appear to be having is that the Forge Bayonet/Reforge Bayonet appears to be consuming the resources yet not producing the "blade" which leads me to think something might be wrong there? (Tried Steel bars + reforging copper weapons into bayonets, each time (tried 10 times in a row just be safe) reaction consumes charcoal + bar/weapon yet no output is being made) I belive i have looked at the raws and i cant find anything wrong with it under reaction_guns.


Another thing which might be a design choice or not just thought I would mention it. Played multiple Naga fortresses, the only producable "clothing" (Cloth/Silk/Yarn) is crude caps and loincloths, leading the nagas to have "Embarrasing thoughts about having the chest area uncovered" and eventually having multiple "felt humiliated dwelling upon having no shirt" which increases stress over long times. I have always put every civ member into the militia to forcewear leather crude lamellar armour to avoid this. Naga can produce tunics/all other cloting using FEATHER under clothiers shop but this is hard to come by, is this intentional?

Best Regards: Chbost

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: VABritto on September 27, 2021, 10:57:34 am

Quote from: kiiranaux on September 27, 2021, 08:22:52 am

This one is intentional, to differentiate the civs, but just like other players, there's nothing stopping you from taking one of the other coral reactions you want to play with, and using it as GENERIC_1 or GENERIC_2. Please post here if you're having any trouble editing those reactions on the fly; there's no need for you to start a new world at this time :)

This is one thing I love about DF. You can pretty much custom make your own experience the way you like it on the fly. It is the closest thing I've seen to this day to "playing make believe" in a video game.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on September 27, 2021, 12:09:26 pm

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Forge Bayonet/Reforge Bayonet appears to be not producing the "blade"

I'm a bit stumped by this one! Are you sure the bayonets aren't being moved to a "tool" stockpile of some kind? They are tools like foci, stepladders, etc. We can do some more testing - I rebuilt Blackpowder from the ground up and I think you're the first to work on its systems.
Again, as a hotfix for your world,

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

In reaction_guns,
 under REACTION:AIRGUN_BAYONET],
replace       [REAGENT:blade:1:TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_BAYONET:METAL:NONE]
with
   [REAGENT:metal:150:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:NONE]

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Played multiple Naga fortresses, the only producable "clothing" (Cloth/Silk/Yarn) is crude caps and loincloths, leading the nagas to have "Embarrasing thoughts about having the chest area uncovered" and eventually having multiple "felt humiliated dwelling upon having no shirt" which increases stress over long times. I have always put every civ member into the militia to forcewear leather crude lamellar armour to avoid this.

Ahhhhh, I think I finally know where the frostbite bug other people talked about is coming from. It's intentional but not working as intended. In the next release I'll give all the crude armor civs some kind of simple shirts and pants too. For now I recommend beating up some local GOOD guys, eh? Also I love your workaround, that does the trick too.

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I love about DF. You can pretty much custom make your own experience

I could not agree more! Now, oops, I should take that, my master beekeeper is complaining that the Minidwarves are on strike again. Fort life goes on!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: VABritto on September 27, 2021, 02:14:01 pm

Is the effects of not wearing clothes hardcoded? If it isn't, maybe you can create your own just for them, something like [SAVAGE_CLOTHING] or something like that, with no necessity of covering the chest. But I'm just spitballing here, not sure if it is even possible lol

Also a question: How do you suggest one go about starting a mod, mate? You have inspired me to try my hand on it. I don't have time properly, because I have a baby to tend to besides the usual responsibilities of life, but I do feel like giving it a go one of these days.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: Splint on September 27, 2021, 02:22:51 pm

Quote from: VABritto on September 27, 2021, 02:14:01 pm

Is the effects of not wearing clothes hardcoded? If it isn't, maybe you can create your own just for them, something like [SAVAGE_CLOTHING] or something like that, with no necessity of covering the chest. But I'm just spitballing here, not sure if it is even possible lol

Also a question: How do you suggest one go about starting a mod, mate? You have inspired me to try my hand on it. I don't have time properly, because I have a baby to tend to besides the usual responsibilities of life, but I do feel like giving it a go one of these days.

Far as I know it's hard-coded, though I think there's a specific personality trait that can mitigate it (I forget which one.)

I think old kobold mod stuff got around it with "shirts" that were just called necklaces or what have you, so if the Naga are meant to convey a tribalistic feel, can just make their clothing be appropriate items. That's how I implemented things like hammer, axe and anvil pendants, dogtags and various necklaces. Like "Braided leather neck-chords" or crude harnesses or whatever.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: VABritto on September 27, 2021, 02:42:49 pm

Quote from: Splint on September 27, 2021, 02:22:51 pm

Quote from: VABritto on September 27, 2021, 02:14:01 pm

Is the effects of not wearing clothes hardcoded? If it isn't, maybe you can create your own just for them, something like [SAVAGE_CLOTHING] or something like that, with no necessity of covering the chest. But I'm just spitballing here, not sure if it is even possible lol

Also a question: How do you suggest one go about starting a mod, mate? You have inspired me to try my hand on it. I don't have time properly, because I have a baby to tend to besides the usual responsibilities of life, but I do feel like giving it a go one of these days.

Far as I know it's hard-coded, though I think there's a specific personality trait that can mitigate it (I forget which one.)

I think old kobold mod stuff got around it with "shirts" that were just called necklaces or what have you, so if the Naga are meant to convey a tribalistic feel, can just make their clothing be appropriate items. That's how I implemented things like hammer, axe and anvil pendants, dogtags and various necklaces. Like "Braided leather neck-chords" or crude harnesses or whatever.

That's a great idea. That would basically solve the problem and keep the original desired aesthetics!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: Chbost on September 28, 2021, 09:31:20 am

Hello again!

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"Are you sure the bayonets aren't being moved to a "tool" stockpile of some kind?"

Positively, I have made over 100 bayonet reactions in my "larger" world and watching multiple of these reactions closely to see if something even spawns, also checking stockpiles/inventories of nagas/lists of items.

I have tested multiple smaller worlds (starting as Nagas with equipment to forge/reforge multiple bayonets) I am still unable to produce them. One peculiar thing might be worth mentioning in that I am using DF Hack, when setting up a production order of bayonets the workflow plugin is unable to detect "output" even when i specificly detail for example "brass bayonets" or "steel bayonets". What is also interesting is that bayonets can be made from almost any material including what I believe are "placeholder" effects from magic such as Energy, Twilight Flames, Ice. But it can also be made from Vampire Dust or Quicklime. I have no idea if this is due to DF Hack I do not belive it to be so, since all other features are working correctly and I appear to only have this problem using the Bayonet reactions.

Are you able to forge bayonets or have you tested it? If it is just on my end it is probably some df hack-sorcery going on.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: VABritto on September 28, 2021, 09:56:30 am

From what I heard, the HF Mod is not compatible with DF-Hack.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: VABritto on September 28, 2021, 10:56:49 pm

So this was basically my first year:

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Yearly Legationary Report for the Outpost of Feywreath.

In the 46th year of the reign of His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Inbew of the House of Huram,

Granite. Feywreath was founded. I Tesgenatha Izroshkofi, Legate of His Imperial Majesty, have been tasked with overseeing the settling of this new colony and give proper support and council to whoever the Faywreathians decide to rule over them as Lord. As of now, however, there is little talk of Lordship. The initial settlers are 7, including myself. Messrs. Ulek Lesec, Ujozom Wumolcescu and Cobsit Olourwawko, as well as Mmes. Last Uzustrubgano, Heg Ejatihurultisnastha and Matug Pocwut. The first order of business was to build a simple hall for shelter and to store food, as well as to start building barrels to properly store everything we need. We have brought with us two lions, two rhinoseros and two waterbuffalos, each a couple, as well as three sheep, three turkeys, three pigs and a cat. Feywreath Castle will be set on top of a steap cliff facing south to the valley below in the Depressed Lowland. Up North we have a small river. We are three days travel from the nearest settlement of our people, the Hamlet of Pertinenceplaited. Our closest human neighbours are under the jurisdiction of the vile and thieving Emperor Acsutdusha of the House of Hashestrok, over a day's travel from here. Closer still are many Goblin settlements that surround the countryside. For now we do not have any contact with them, but I am weary of not having any walls set up for our defense. I have talked to the settlers and they too seem worried at our current state. We plan on building walls as soon as possible around this high hill. I have taken upon myself the task of the village carpenter, making all the wooden furnature and utilities that Faywreath needs. Mrs. Last is digging a channel to the river and we intend to make an artificial well fed by said channel. I am building wooden mechanisms to control the floodgates that will keep the water under control.

Slate. Mmes. Heg and Matug were attacked by an alligator and were seriously wounded. Mrs. Heg would have probably been killed if one of our lions didn't rescue her and dispatched the monster. This land is full of ferocious creatures, we have even spotted giant ants wandering about. The faster that we create the wall and have a Lord to organize the defenses, the better.

Legate Tesgenatha was killed by an alligator in the end of the month of Slate. I, Ulek Lesec, take his charge as temporary Imperial Legate. When the Emissary arrive I will speak to him of who will substitute Mr. Tesgenatha. Most of our folk are wounded, for a great band of alligators poured through the lands attacking everyone in its wake. My main job has been to gather the wounded and tend to them, although my situation is precarious. The only ones that are in any shape to help me are Mr. Cobsit, who's responsibility is to forage for food, and Mrs. Last, who is still working on our well.

Hematite. As determined by the Imperial Emissary, I will resume now officially the functions of Legate Tesgenatha. I have given him the report made by myself and my predecessor. From Hematite onward I will continue writing the report to be given next year this month.

Malachite. Five migrants have arrived. The elderly Mr. Ismu Omaramsod and his son Horun Hurcata, together with Horun's wife Budungamarop Ethridomongub, as well as Mmes. Konom Mushcarospocpuki and Rolsu Eshrelist. This brings our population up to 11 souls. I have welcomed them to our outpost and have assigned them functions. We will need all the hands we can get. After a while I sat with them and asked them of their history. Mr. Ismu is a man of venerable age, having been born 86 winters ago. He is of a warrior disposition and does not seem to care much for intellectual conversation. His son Horun shows more of an interest in that sort of thing and has more refined manners. Father and son seem very different from one another, from mannerisms, worldview and even eye color (Ismu has tawny colored eyes while Horun's are blue), but both seem to equally have an air of coldness to them that is hard to explain. Mr. Ismu went on to say that he used to be the Sergeant of Heapclonks before migrating here, confirming my first impression of him. There he met Legate Bonena Odoocon, Horun's mother. He did not talk much about her, it seems their relationship didn't go much further. Horun himself has also seen combat, having fought in the glorious assault on Infidelityedges, that devilish goblin fort having being pillaged by him and other soldiers. His wife Budungamarop is of noble blood, having been the heiress to the lordship of the hamlet of Latitudinalcelery. She gave up her inheritance to marry Mr. Horun and come to Feywreath. Mrs. Konom had a hard life, having been enslaved by the Goblins and having to resort to criminal activities to survive at times. She is not one to talk much, but the little she did say seemed dark. I did not press her further on the matter. She seems to be a friend of Mrs. Budungamarop, having come from the same hamlet. Mrs. Rolsu has previously been a Legate for the hamlet of Skillgallstone and has chosen to come to Feywreath to help in the colonization efforts.

I suggested to the settlers that Mr. Ismu be made Lord over Feywreath, mainly because of his military experience and the fact he has an Heir already present and living with us. Given how badly we need protection in these parts, nobody argued against it. And so I confirm with my Imperial Authority that in the 46th year of the reign of Inbew, in mid Malachite, the Feywreathians have chosen Ismu Omaramsod and his House for the Lordship of this Outpost. His first order of business was to prioritize the construction of the reservoir for our well and nominated Mrs. Rolsu as outpost Physician to tend to the wounded. He also ordered the burial of Legate Tesgenatha, who we haven't been able to bury all this time because of lack of manpower.

Galena. As the well is going fast underway, Lord Ismu ordered the construction of a smithy and mandated the production of gauntlets. Legate Tesgenatha was finally buried, I took care of the matter myself.

Limestone. The well was inaugurated. It is divided into three parts. A deep hole was dug in the ground on Feywreath Hill, until it got under ground level to the river. Then a tunnel was dug through all the way to the river. A floodgate was placed on the mouth of the river-side tunnel entrance, to control exactly when water can enter the tunnel. Another floodgate was placed on the midsection for safety. Finally a third floodgate was placed near the entrance to the well. Before the well's entrance's floodgate and the mid-tunnel floodgate we constructed two large reservoirs, each with floodgates attached to them so as to store a good amount of water in case we ever need to keep the river entrance closed. After the reservoir was filled to the brim, its floodgates were closed. With the tunnel itself full, we closed the river entrance. Lord Ismu wishes that it is only open when we actually need to replenish our water supply, preventing any strange creature to enter through the river tunnel. The Lord then ordered us to remove all access we can to the hill top, and build two great gates as the only entrances. All trees near the hill are to be chopped off and a road built around it to prevent new trees from growing anytime soon.

Sandstone. Faywreath Hill was dug around in a way that all paths up to it were removed, except the two specified by Lord Ismu. He knighted his son Horun and charged him with the defense of the settlement. Sir Horun chose Mr. Ujozom and Mr. Cobsit as his followers and with the copper we brought with us we had short swords forged for all three of them. Each were given a pair of gauntlets, greaves and wooden medium-sized shields. Lord Ismu presented his son additionally with a helm, a mail-coat, a breastplate and low boots. All made from copper. These aren't the best weapons and armor, but it was what we could do with the materials we have. Lord Ismu now wants to further dig around the cliff closer to the valley, to make it as hard and controlled as possible for anyone to get to Faywreath Hill. He showed me a plan he made of a series of gate entrances going all the way down towards the valley. There he wishes to make a town, overlooked by a future Faywreath Castle on top of the hill. "Faywreath Hill will be our safe haven in case of an attack. When that happens, we evacuate all subjects to the castle with the livestock. We will keep a large storage room here and keep enough food to last us out a siege if needed", Lord Ismu said. He then ordered that we start building the wall around said hill. Many new migrants have arrived, including a couple of necromancers, Mr. Uwsho Ozithrezbomo and Mrs. Wuvak Elsinomuthan and a daughter of the Emperor himself, Her Imperial Highness Alos Zomkor and her husband Mr. Hakudng Estxuriset. Besides them we have Mr. Woloc Golapagebekat and his wife Mrs. Ucsur Osmkawewthric, as well as Mrs. Nocpu Apsutmanomug. Lord Ismu greeted the necromancers with certain suspician. The older necromancer, Mr. Uwsho, was born before the Triarchy, in the time in which the Empire was under only one Emperor. His wife was much younger than him, but still middle-aged for our standards, yet neither looked even a bit aged except for their snow white hair. They unsettle me. Sir Horun vouched for their permenance among us, arguing that their knowledge could prove very useful for us in the long run. Lord Ismu shrugged and left it up to him. I overheard the good knight speaking to them about plans of making a wizard's towar in the eastern side of Faywreath Hill for them to stay, after the necessary defenses were sorted out. As of now none of us have any place of our own. We sleep on the hospital floor or on the grass. Lord Ismu lives in the same manner, but I have noticed that this is taking a toll on him. He is tough, but he is still an old man. While building the wall we are also at the same time building the meadhall. That is where everyone will sleep, each with his own bed, while we don't move to the valley below. There we will also have some much needed entertainment, with tables and chairs for us to drink and relax. Mrs. Mutag apparently will never recover from her injuries and is now incapable of walking or grasping anything. She manages to walk with the help of crutches, but she is basically incapable of doing any work. Lord Ismu does not force her to do anything and has stipulated a stippend to keep her comfortable. She is being taken care of by the community for the sacrifice she made in the foundation of this outpost.

Opal. The kitchen is already set on the back of the meadhall, with the still always busy making different brews. A bit of civilization after almost a year of toil and animalistic conditions is not something to shrug off! The construction effort on the wall is focusing mostly on the eastern section. Because of the double effort of making the Hall and the wall, it is advancing slowly.

Obsidian. The meadhall is finished! Now we are making a general temple so that our people may pray, the eastern walls and a tomb for Lord Ismu, since he has none yet.

On the last days of Obsidian, Mrs. Matug Pocwut died of dehydration. She refused to drink water... By the year's end, we have gained a total of 19 migrants this year. 2 of them died. My predecessor, Legate Tesgenatha Izroshkofi, by alligator attack, and my friend Mrs. Matug Pocwut, by voluntary dehydration. May they rest in peace. This brings the total of our population this year to 17 souls. The report for next Hematite continues in the next year,

In the 47th year of the reign of His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Inbew of the House of Huram,

Granite.

It seems Matug died because she couldn't hold anything yet insisted on drniking from a cup. Rather bizarre way to go.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on September 29, 2021, 12:52:31 pm

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"shirts" that were just called necklaces

I agree with VAB, this is a fantastic idea. I'll use it as part of the fix for next version. Some of the crude armor civs will get regular shirts and pants, etc though. As always, no new version until I've got a significant bugfix, so people can keep enjoying their worlds.

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Compatibility with DFHack

I really have no idea on this one, it's possible DFHack works fairly well with HF, and if it's helping someone play the game they the way they want to then I'm happy for them; it's just not supported. You'll thank me when HF is one of the first mods out post-Premium ;)

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Making bayonets, and is it a vanilla bug or a dfhack issue?

I have not made a bayonet in my forts yet, i'll get on that. I'm unsure if this is a dfhack issue, but let's assume it's not until I can confirm things are working on my side.
However one thing you said does catch my attention - "bayonets can be made of anything." That shouldn't be right, they are [NO_DEFAULT_JOB] so they can only be made from the exact reaction, and the exact reaction calls for BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:NONE (any metal). I need to take some time to make sure that reaction is working correctly in no-df-hack fort mode, and then I'll comment on this again.
In the meantime, please remember that you can edit the reaction output on the fly anytime to use without waiting for a new version and world:

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   [REAGENT:metal:150:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:NONE] instead of
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How do you suggest one go about starting a mod?

Mods come in different flavors. Adding a simple creature or plant, adding a new material/tool/weapon, adding a new reaction, and adding a simple civilization, or all of the above+more. Because Highfantasy uses the vanilla setting, it's a good place to deconstruct my work (and others' work) and see how it works:

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To learn how to make a simple creature, open up HARPY in creature_standard and compare to my SIREN in creature_highfantasy
To learn how to make a simple civilization, compare the vanilla PLAINS entity (humans) to the one in highfantasy
To learn how to make a simple material, compare the vanilla metal STEEL to my metals MYTHRIL and ORICHALCUM
To learn how to make a simple reaction, look at the (unused) reaction in reaction_highfantasy to make a stone bed.

Creatures that use new body parts are tougher, which is why i'm always complaining about "venom sacs, hides, milks, and skulls" hehe... but check out c_variation_highfantasy, here are examples of my moving around spawn biomes and of a creature with a non-standard bodypart in CREATURE_VARIATION:THREE_HEADS

One more note on creatures, Highfantasy does some pretty clever things with using CASTES instead of just making new creatures - such as for "imposter" creatures, "lineage" creatures, and even subspecies. I learned this from Tb_dnd's five dragon types which are a great starting place.

Interaction, Syndrome, and spells are much harder still, so I would save those for once you've learned how to do some of the other things.

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46th year of the reign of His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Inbew of the House of Huram

Loving your little group of settlers. Sounds like a fortress that viewers would love too, you're welcome to post some spoilered screenshots! Why couldn't Mrs. Matug hold anything - was her hand crushed or something? I wonder if one could have force-fed her if she was hospitalized or such. Tragic!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: VABritto on September 29, 2021, 02:02:22 pm

Quote from: kiiranaux on September 29, 2021, 12:52:31 pm

Loving your little group of settlers. Sounds like a fortress that viewers would love too, you're welcome to post some spoilered screenshots! Why couldn't Mrs. Matug hold anything - was her hand crushed or something? I wonder if one could have force-fed her if she was hospitalized or such. Tragic!

Thanks mate! I'll post some screenshots when I get some down time. So far it's very crude and simple. A meadhall connected with a kitchen + still+ food storage room, connected with a makeshift hospital. With a small shrine sharing a wall with the meadhall. All this on top of a hill that had its ramps removed except for in two strategic positions, where gates were placed on the top and the base of the hill. With a well made with a reservoir underneath channeling water from the river and controlling the flux with bridges working as floodgates. I am also digging a "drainpipe" tunnel that would lead out of the hill and controlled with bridges as floodgates, to remove all the water from the well if I ever want to change the layout of the system safely or if I ever want to, for some reason, inundate the valley below. Random workshops are scattered throughout the place, as well as a well and levers. That's basically it so far lol But I plan on making a castle on this hill. Down south from it is a pretty steep cliff going down to a large valley (but still with ramps going down the cliff side). I plan on the actual settlement being there, on the valley below. This part of the settlement would be the castle. Where everyone would run to when problems arise. But they would actually live in the valley, each having their own house and with buildings for each workshop etc. I could then convert the drainpipe tunnel into an aqueduct ending in another underground tunnel feeding another well lol Then I can just feed them as needed so everyone would have water and not need to go up the hill and to the river. On the north a small river is present and it goes all the way south-east. And it falls on a magnificent waterfall because of how much lower the land is on the other side. It is actually a pretty incredible landscape and a perfect place for a human settlement lol I'm liking it a lot.

Matug was unfortunately attacked by alligators on the month of Slate. And very brutally so. She only survived because they ran straight to our lions and an epic fight between them ensued and the alligators ran. We didn't have equipment to treat her at first and when we could take care of her the damage was irreversable. She lived though for almost a year, but she couldn't walk (I think she was crawling the whole time, don't know why she didn't grab crutches) and she couldn't hold anything. I felt pitty on her and let her stay without working no problem. Would keep her safe and well indefinitely but she kinda kept insisting on drinking with a cup, but couldn't actually grab anything so she kept trying until she died. She died on top of the craftsdwarf's shop, on a pile of cups. Sad stuff. It is all written in the Report, it is just a pretty long report xD

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on September 29, 2021, 03:21:45 pm

I see, I had already read the first half of the report so I skipped to the second half, and forgot that she had been mauled. Et quelle mort ironic! - what an ironic death!

The blueprint of the fort in relation to geography sounds outstanding, make me want to make something similar!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: Splint on September 29, 2021, 03:56:12 pm

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"shirts" that were just called necklaces

I agree with VAB, this is a fantastic idea. I'll use it as part of the fix for next version. Some of the crude armor civs will get regular shirts and pants, etc though. As always, no new version until I've got a significant bugfix, so people can keep enjoying their worlds.

To be specific with how I did those necklaces, I made them very tiny on the layer stuff (so they would be wearable with the rest of an outfit, assuming one isn't gaming the system with their uniforms,) and had them set as an over layer item, similar to cloaks and such, with very small coverage. Sometimes as a result, metallic pendants would still actually save people from injury, since they were considered civilian wear.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: VABritto on September 29, 2021, 04:13:48 pm

Quote from: kiiranaux on September 29, 2021, 03:21:45 pm

I see, I had already read the first half of the report so I skipped to the second half, and forgot that she had been mauled. Et quelle mort ironic! - what an ironic death!

The blueprint of the fort in relation to geography sounds outstanding, make me want to make something similar!

I'm glad you liked it! Later I will post images to show exactly how it is and what I plan to do with it.

Also, notice that in the Report it is said that the Necromancer Uwsho was born "before the Triarchy". It is because in the lore of this world (that I am making up as I go along) I have made that humanity was under one Emperor before world gen (the world existed and history existed), but the Empire fell into a series of civil wars one after the other until we got something like a Diocletian moment in which the three most powerful warring generals simply agreed to each be made Emperor of one third of the Empire. Each third is its own realm with its own command and such, and they are not loyal to the other two Emperors, but they still feel a sense of themselves being part of "one united Human Empire", just under three Emperors each with his own "jurisdiction". Two of the jurisdictions stabilised under dynasties. The one we follow is under the jurisdiciton of Emperor Inbew, who has reigned for whopping 46 years (he is old). He is the son of Emperor Huram. Huram assumed power after the first Triarch of his jurisdiction (Emperor Ihdetre) died without heirs after reigning for 36 years. His family is a family of warriors and explorers and they were descended from Lords and Ladies. So nobility through and through. The second jurisdiction that stabilised itself is the one under Emperor Acsutdusha. He is the son of Emperor Hashestrok. Hashestrok was actually one of the three original Triarch Emperors, so Emperor Acsutdusha kinda represents the original imperial line of the Triarchy. From his history I see that he was a criminal so I imagined him being an unsavery character. The other third of the Triarchy never stabilised at all. It has been ruled by three successive Emperors, none related to one another. So I imagine this group is more of the "wild frontier" part of the Empire, with their Emperors never managing to keep a solid grip on power. Now the Empire has three Triarchs: Emperor Inbew (ruled so far 46 years, he is 86 years old!), Emperor Acsutdusha (ruled so far a whopping 58 years, he is 106 years old!) and Emperor Tedra (ruled so far 14 years, he is 57 years old).

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on September 29, 2021, 04:58:00 pm

Neat, so that's basically how you're dealing with humans having three separate civilizations, right?

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: VABritto on September 29, 2021, 05:03:39 pm

Quote from: kiiranaux on September 29, 2021, 04:58:00 pm

Neat, so that's basically how you're dealing with humans having three separate civilizations, right?

Exactly! I am role playing that they are considered one Empire divided into three. Kinda like how the Roman Empire was in the Tetrarchy or in the Middle Ages with the Holy Roman Empire (Western) and the Eastern Roman Empire (also called "Byzantine"). Because I like to study Medieval Political Theory, whenever I hear the word "Emperor", the idea of "universal" always comes to mind. As in, for Medieval People there was always only one Empire. I wanted to reflect a similar concept in this game, being that I am playing as a human.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: Chbost on September 30, 2021, 10:10:43 am

Hello again!

I have recently tried my hand at the spellcrafts part of the mod, as the nagas tend to swim in goldbars after a few years I decided to try to sacrifice a goldbar in the "Holy Altar Building". Got some new cool powers I assume (from the combat logs some gesturing appears and such). I have noticed one funky behaviour though. Sometimes the reaction spawns 150 items from the "spawn list" such as i got 150 obsidian boulders at one time from 1 reaction later onwards 150 marble boulders. I later got 150 silver whips running the goldbar reaction. This does not seem right or maybe it is? Just checking.

Tried the reaction 3 times in a row just to see what would happen and I got lucky i guess and now have 450 silver whips, so I guess my trapcorridor is all set xD.

Anyway the necklaces idea sounds really good or some tribalwear, the merchants I recieve tend to sense that my civmembers are not very well dressed and such bring massive amounts of leatherbins (filling up their entire wagonspaces with it) even though i already have 30+ leatherbins + loincloths/boots/caps/leatherarmour covering all bodyparts. I think this is due to the lack of "tunics"/non-armour bodywear and a lack of socks/shoes.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on September 30, 2021, 07:08:26 pm

Hey kiira, just became your first Patreon backer.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: FiveBalesOfHay on September 30, 2021, 07:17:35 pm

Is this mod supposed to use a tileset? Because the tiles are all weird.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on September 30, 2021, 07:28:51 pm

Not as far as I know, I noticed some of the tiles were different as well but I think that's just by design.

Come to think of it, why did you change so many of the tiles kiira? I'm quite curious now that it's been brought up.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on October 01, 2021, 04:26:59 pm

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Just became the first patreon backer

Thank you so much! I noticed, and it's really appreciated. As I said I'm just gonna save that for coffees for when it's time to do the premium / graphics update :)

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Sometimes the reaction spawns 150 items from the "spawn list"

Looking into this, that's curious. Will report back if I find an obvious solution.

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Changed tile sets / using a tile set

HF is not supposed to use a tile set, per say. This change comes from Modest or Revised or Vanilla Spice, one of the three foundational vanilla expanding mods that were the first three I installed into HF. It causes a bunch of issues with lazy newb pack, too... it's on my list to go through and undo, however, I'm not going to worry about it until premium is here and it's time to add new sprite hooks for every creature/plant/etc. Not going to be a fun time.
Folks who are describing issues, that's when using other tile sets or something, right? I don't think these are present when just using a fresh bay12 install, but I'm all ears if that's incorrect...

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on October 01, 2021, 04:38:25 pm

I mean I've never used a tileset but some of the tiles are still off for me, not that it's a huge deal (just a few little things like ground vegetation being represented by the "." vermin tile or soil tiles being represented by "Ä"). Overall it's just something I got used to, I won't lose sleep if you want to prioritize the more pressing bugs like the ongoing frostbite problem.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on October 01, 2021, 06:41:08 pm

So the ground vegetation is a config setting found in DINIT or INIT. You can change it any time! I use it to reduce visual clutter.
The soil changes are what i'm referencing, that one of the baseline mods changes for some reason, which I need to double check why.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on October 01, 2021, 06:56:40 pm

Also another potential bug (sorry don't mean to overwhelm you with bug reports haha): are night troll lairs supposed to be devoid of the vanilla details like cauldrons, meat cleavers, piles of prepared humanoid flesh, etc? I always found those little details to be quite immersive and creepy in the best kind of way in vanilla DF, yet the one I visited in adventure mode recently was completely bare like an animal's den. Granted, I suspect that particular lair was abandoned since the night troll never showed up either, I'd just like to know whether I can expect the same to be the case for any other night troll lairs I might encounter.

I've noticed a similar case for the CAVE_SIMPLE civs, which no longer appear to be littered with all the traps and elaborate passages and such that kobolds like to use in vanilla. Is this, as I've pondered, a deliberate quality-of-life alteration now that those civs are actually playable?

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: VABritto on October 01, 2021, 08:45:41 pm

Possible bug report: The merchants got to the trade depot. But after that left randomly without any explanation. I don't know if it was because I have lions guarding the entrance and they got scared. But I just found it strange lol

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: Splint on October 01, 2021, 09:40:56 pm

Quote from: VABritto on October 01, 2021, 08:45:41 pm

Possible bug report: The merchants got to the trade depot. But after that left randomly without any explanation. I don't know if it was because I have lions guarding the entrance and they got scared. But I just found it strange lol

Check for wagon wood, something probably spooked one of the merchants or attacked a draft animal, causing the wagon to scuttle. Alternatively, they may have been carrying something that boiled at a high enough temperature to damage and scuttle the wagon, so check for any out-of-place residue. My money is only keas or other thieving animals or the boiling-stuff theory.

Quote from: kiiranaux on October 01, 2021, 06:41:08 pm

So the ground vegetation is a config setting found in DINIT or INIT. You can change it any time! I use it to reduce visual clutter.
The soil changes are what i'm referencing, that one of the baseline mods changes for some reason, which I need to double check why.

Also man, I wish I had this level of engagement with my stuff, seems you've done well kiiranaux  :P And if it has anything to do with any minerals from my mod, let me know so I can fix it. I tend to just ignore non-serious errors like that and nobody has said anything in SVE's thread about it.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on October 01, 2021, 11:02:12 pm

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Also another potential bug

No worries, I love this stuff, always happy to keep polishing the play experience!

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night troll lairs

Vanilla night troll lairs should absolutely still have the creepy details, I bet the one you found was abandoned. Now, there are new non-generated night trolls in highfantasy - lamia and succubi, plus maybe some from spellcrafts? - and they have some but not all the characteristics of generated night trolls. Actually you might have found a LAIR that didn't belong to a NIGHT TROLL but just to a LAIR-making creature. For example, a harpy or a rodent man.

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cave simple civs

With current vanilla limitations you can't be a CAVE_SIMPLE civs AND let them be playable (which sucks!), so kobolds and gnomes are now FORT_SIMPLE civs. Halflings and lizard men are still CAVE_SIMPLE, so they still have the cool traps and passages, as far as I've seen! Every kobold camp mod i've ever seen starts by making them not CAVE_SIMPLE, because you have to  :(

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merchants

Could be vanilla, we'll keep an ear out for the different possible explanations. If anything is spontaneously combusting, definitely call that out for a fix.

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Level of engagement

Splint I'm so greatful for your work! I would have never had the time to put all these little things together, but for the past two years, I've been keeping track of things I liked, and with everyone's work I have more time to smooth and balance everything.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on October 01, 2021, 11:06:25 pm

Mine was definitely procgen, the lord I took the quest from identified it as a "night creature", but you're right it was probably abandoned and that lord was just a bit behind the times.

The strangest thing in regards to the cave civs is that in the original version of the mod the first adventurer I played was a halfling and they started out in a cave that looked the way it should, so I suspect it's a bug specific to newer versions of the mod.

Worth noting though that I've only played two or three halflings/lizal starting from their native civ in the current version, so I'll keep playing to see whether or not it was just a quirk specific to a particular worldgen or something.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on October 01, 2021, 11:15:34 pm

Ah, see, not a bug, rather, I didn't make it extremely clear that halflings and lizardmen are actually /not/ fortress playable. So if you started as a halfling/lizal, you should see the "cave that looks the way it should"- in this version or any previous. If you started as a kobold/gnome, the cave will look empty, in this version or any previous!

But are you saying in the current version you start as a halfling or lizal and the cave is still boring? That would be a problem!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on October 01, 2021, 11:45:26 pm

Yeah the latter is what I'm saying, though this wasn't the case in the first version of Highfantasy when I played it.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on October 01, 2021, 11:53:03 pm

Ok feel free to disregard all complaints related to cave civs, it appears it was just a crappy worldgen because in my latest world halfling/lizal settlements are generating as they should. Sorry for the mistaken bug report.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: Chbost on October 02, 2021, 07:01:16 am

Hello again!

I decided to do some experiments with things I thought might be weird or potential bugs before reporting them, I tested them with my world with DF-Hack and also in a fresh new install of DF with only HF (no tilesets no dfhack no nothing).

In the new install bayonets are still not working for me and it also available to be crafted with pretty much anything from Abominable fog to Yellow diamond (just thought I would double check, still not a major issue I can still use your fix thanks btw :) )
I have noticed a new bug with the spellcrafts, so when I craft Spellcharges in the wizards studio, I believe they do spawn but they evaporate almost immediatly, clouding the room in a burst of aetherium which incidently starts decaying all flamable items, for example the table (if it is made out of wood) thus dismantling the workshop due to its components being "burned up" (wooden table can be seen deteriorating until it dissasembles the workshop) and also the grimoire if it is close by, my grimoire was also made out of aether salts, I dont know if this is supposed to be if it is taking the correct resource and assigning its name.

Crafting other items (so far as I have checked do work) for example the wizards staff (the one which the spellshards are ammunition for) crafts without incident. Again I am 100% sure that the items are not being moved anywhere and that it is not a compatability issue due to me testing this with base DF 47.05.

Also tested the Holy Altar again this time using a flesh sacrifice, it spawns the correct items I think: using 5 slave meat gave me 3 marble.
The goldbar sacrifice still gives 150 items.


This was all tested in fortress mode with the Naga Civ in a fresh install.

Hope this will help alittle with narrowing down some bugs. :)

On Another non-bug note maybe more a balancing factor?, the Nagas are insanely strong in combat, I have had non-trained nagas using copper crude armour take out alot of invaders, from orcs to humans to sahuagians, I had 1 naga whom killed 20+ sahuagins all by himself, he charged the sauhgins knocked them down, bit them making them paralyzed and stunned, (naga venom) he then shaked them around (sauhigins are bigger? so he should not have been able to do that?). Their swipe attack also almost always (tail swipe) knocks away hostiles very far, making it a very strong attack. Naga tridents also only cost 1 bar to make, and they are very lethal, making them out of steel they are able to punch through pretty much everything.

Also Nagas tend to still use their tail to grasp weapons? So sometimes they use their arms, but if they have been wounded they resort to using their tail to wield one hand items (it does not say strapped to tail), also multigrasp items appear to be used with their tail, for example I had a swordsnaga using a two-handed sword equipped at the tailslot. (I am using the latest HF version, Ive read somewhere about a fingers on tail bug before, they appear to be still able to hold items with their tail (maybe it is meant to be, I personally think its kinda cool)).

I know they are a "superbad" and maybe they are supposed to be very strong since you write that they are very good at fighting and such, just thought I would mention it if it is something you would want to know. Maybe they are just realy strong, but the trident price might need to be upped abit since cranking out steel tridents for all civ members is very viable due to multiple aquitects workshops, and could probably be made to be in line with the costs of other weapons such as a large dagger taking 6 bars to make.

Thanks again for such a cool mod :)!

EDIT: I tried spellshards with a table made of stone in the wizards workstation, the table does not melt now and the workshop stays intact yet burst of aetherium still happens and no spellshard item is available (still goes poof).
On one fun note due to the lack of clothes I have begun raiding and waging alot of war on the civilized population and receiving many human invaders "Begun the sock-wars has"

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on October 02, 2021, 12:24:19 pm

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Cave civ issues resolved

Thank you Plump, very glad to hear this!

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Spellcharges evaporate almost immediately, clouding the room in a burst of aetherium which incidently starts decaying all flamable

OH MY GOSH haha, okay, this is a major one! It must be because of the material they are made of which must sublimate at room temperature. I'll adjust to a more STABLE version of aetherium. Please make the following reaction code changes on the fly:

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 in your save file's raws, to reaction_spellcrafts_adv and _fort,
to the "create spell charges" reactions,
replace
   [PRODUCT:90:10:AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_SP_CHARGE:INORGANIC:AETHER]
   [PRODUCT:10:10:AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_SP_CHARGE:INORGANIC:AETHER] bonus chances
   [PRODUCT:1:10:AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_SP_CHARGE:INORGANIC:AETHER]
with
   [PRODUCT:90:10:AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_SP_CHARGE:INORGANIC:AETHER_METALLIC]
   [PRODUCT:10:10:AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_SP_CHARGE:INORGANIC:AETHER_METALLIC] bonus chances
   [PRODUCT:1:10:AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_SP_CHARGE:INORGANIC:AETHER_METALLIC]

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150 items at the altar

This is clearly not a fluke but it's got me stumped. Will do additional testing and report back.

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Naga balance issues

This is all really great feedback. For the next version, I will: decrease the power of the tail swipe; increase the "recharge" time on the venom usage, and/or make it not paralyze (poison is enough for this civ); increase the material use and decrease the power of the trident.
Grasping with the tails is intended, and was preserved intentionally when getting rid of the spooky tail fingers bug.

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General bug and balance notes

With the frostbite bug most likely squashed (in the coming version), the remaining major bug is the overcharged difficulty of killing necromancer-summoned zombies. I still think it's due to the combat rework, but with so many systems interacting to create this "feature" I don't have a clear fix yet. But just letting everyone know that's still on the list. Bug progress can be tracked at any time by looking at "Polish and Bug "To-do List"" on the OP post #2.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: Chbost on October 03, 2021, 08:24:51 am

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decrease the power of the tail swipe

I think it is a very cool attack but targets it strike often "explode into gore", so this change is realy necessary :)

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; increase the "recharge" time on the venom usage,and/or make it not paralyze (poison is enough for this civ);

The effects of naga poison appears to be substantial if multiple nagas are able to inject it into one target or if one naga makes multiple bite attacks, but if it is a single naga only 1 bite wont do to much (the combat is often over before the full effects of poison become apparent), so increasing the recharge time could be realy good when it comes to mass melees to avoid them biting all adjacent hostiles. I personally think the poison is realy cool and also the paralyze function.

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increase the material use and decrease the power of the trident.

Sounds good :D

Another thing I noticed is that the Harpoons are realy strong aswell. This below is an example of the combat log (not a freak incident but this happends often if they hit a target)

03/10/2021 02:41:40.968: The flying {¡brass harpoon¡} strikes the human swordsman in the lower body, bruising the muscle and bruising the right kidney through the ({bronze chain leggings})!
03/10/2021 02:41:40.991: The human swordsman is propelled away by the force of the blow!
03/10/2021 02:41:41.175: The human swordsman's lower body skids along the ground, but it is deflected by the human swordsman's ({goat leather cloak})!
03/10/2021 02:41:41.365: The human swordsman slams into an obstacle!


As the log shows being hit by a harpoon as a "normal sized" creature propelles the creature away. The airgun is realy strong in this sense. In my mind the airgun is perhaps smaller than how it is represented in the game, is it like a small sized ballista? It also appears to be difficult using them in squads due to the combined weight, as if I have Nagas with 1 airgun + 60 harpoons (normal ammunitionsize) they move very slow. 1 stack with 60 brass harpoons (normal produced amount) weigh 282 whilst a steel spring gun weighs 3.

Armour weighs are estimates, checked multiple crafted ones some are 1-3 weight units lower/higher these are the average numbers I had in my batch production:
One copper lamellar armour weighs 13 whilst a copper crude cuirass weighs 13, a copper crude full helmet 14


EDIT: Forgot to check other ammunition weights, could not make them out of brass but copper arrows have 2 weight,  copper bolts have 2 weight and copper javelins have 66 (all 60 stacked) and copper harpoons has 294. EDIT:

Even with only leather armour or no armour at all for my harpoon gunners they move slower than my heavy armored "Tyrants"

If it is intended to keep the harpoons "heavy"? 290/60=4.8 (since the harpoon is heavier than the armature that launches it) maybe it is possible to reduce the ammunitionsize? Since producing 60 harpoons only takes 1 bar possibly increasing the bar cost or reducing the ammunition size (possibly to 20 harpoons? (97weight)), since units equipped with 1 stack of harpoons moves as if they had full body heavy armour and sometimes end up being dehydrated as they are unable to move fast enough from and to my food/drink piles) (I have started placing multiple small prepared food/drink stockpiles to alleviate this xD)

Again sorry if i bombard this thread with my suggestions, I am just trying to report as much as possible before the next big update.

Thanks for the quick fix regarding spellshards! Cant wait to try them out :)

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on October 03, 2021, 12:40:11 pm

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Harpoon gun and harpoon weight calculations

Thank you much Chbost, it looks like harpoon ammo is definitely overweighted, which would also explain why they are "blasting off" any regular-sized creatures they hit! Will tune that down. And yes I definitely want to get all this in before updating again, even though the next update has some cool things :)

By the way, the next update to high fantasy, following the "creature class update", is the "Disguise Update", make of that what you will...

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on October 03, 2021, 06:13:02 pm

I have a few guesses and all of them are extremely interesting. I'll keep my eyes on this thread for the new update.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: Chbost on October 04, 2021, 10:22:32 am

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"creature class update", "Disguise Update"

Sounds very interesting indeed :)!


My shot in the dark :P

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Something to do with the polymorph system in spellcrafts_sch_d?

EDIT: I have been trying out as much of the spellcrafts as I can and I have noticed some funky behaviour, the following is a combat log during an ambush

04/10/2021 06:02:44.780: The spearnaga casts a spell!
04/10/2021 06:02:44.781: The spearnaga doesnt seem to need to breathe!
04/10/2021 06:02:44.782: The spearnaga casts a spell!
04/10/2021 06:02:44.783: The spearnaga can move with impunity!
04/10/2021 06:02:45.036: The spearnaga gestures!
04/10/2021 06:02:45.038: The recruit is no longer hungry!
04/10/2021 06:02:45.039: The spearnaga is no longer hungry!
04/10/2021 06:02:45.164: Etexostra Tezspumulsmke, Spearnaga: Hasss the tide turned?  I laugh in the face of death!
04/10/2021 06:02:46.498: The spearnaga casts a spell!
04/10/2021 06:02:46.499: The spirit wisp is revived in spirit!
04/10/2021 06:02:46.561: The spirit wisp is completely paralyzed!
04/10/2021 06:02:47.200: The spearnaga stabs the spirit wisp in the core with his ¡steel trident¡ and the injured part is cloven asunder!
04/10/2021 06:02:47.202: The spirit wisp is propelled away by the force of the blow!
04/10/2021 06:02:47.454: The spirit wisp's orb skids along the ground!
04/10/2021 06:02:47.580: The spearnaga stands up.
04/10/2021 06:02:47.770: The spirit wisp slams into an obstacle!

So the Spearnaga (whom I used alot in the temple/altar I assume he knows some of the Medipeshos (or however it is *spelled* (the pun was real)) he has a bunch of powers he can also reanimate these spirit orbs, sometimes they are friendly and just float around, but in this instance it became hostile. checking the dead/missing logs

See picture:

(https://imgur.com/5RqrUdE.png)

(First time uploading a picture here might not work :S.

It appears that he reanimated first one of the wardogs named Buquoh which turned hostile then he reanimated a human "Orshalash Azsaboronli" Axeman which also turned hostile and was quickly dispatched. I guess it works kinda like intelligent undead? That if they reanimate hostile creatures they remain hostile? Is this intended or are they supposed to switch allegiance?

Another thing is that the humans do not send sieges but send abnormaly large ambushes like 150+ invaders ambushing the fort. Are humans a ambush civ? Or should they be more like the Orcs (they have never ambushed me only outright sieges)?

Anyway will continue to explore as much as I can with the spellstuffs :D I soon have enough magestaffs and spellshards to replace all harpooners so kinda excited to see what effects one will get with 20+nagas with magestaffs xD

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on October 05, 2021, 01:36:54 pm

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It appears that he reanimated first one of the wardogs named Buquoh which turned hostile then he reanimated a human "Orshalash Azsaboronli" Axeman which also turned hostile and was quickly dispatched. I guess it works kinda like intelligent undead? That if they reanimate hostile creatures they remain hostile? Is this intended or are they supposed to switch allegiance?

Another thing is that the humans do not send sieges but send abnormaly large ambushes like 150+ invaders ambushing the fort. Are humans a ambush civ? Or should they be more like the Orcs (they have never ambushed me only outright sieges)?

Anyway will continue to explore as much as I can with the spellstuffs :D I soon have enough magestaffs and spellshards to replace all harpooners so kinda excited to see what effects one will get with 20+nagas with magestaffs xD

Good feedback - I'm going to look into each of the parts of this.
(By the way, where are you seeing the word "Medisophos? I thought I had changed them all to divine relatively recently? :) )
There is a Divine spell that re-animates but I havn't looked at it in depth. Unclear if it is supposed to make friendly or not; will report back! Just like when someone talked about the demon summon earlier, these reanimates are supposed to have "MAKE PET IF ABLE." I'll verify.

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My shot in the dark

Incorrect! :p Although you are correct in that the base elements of the new threat are already present in HF in current limited cases...

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: DwarfStar on October 05, 2021, 03:56:20 pm

Quote from: Chbost on October 04, 2021, 10:22:32 am

Another thing is that the humans do not send sieges but send abnormaly large ambushes like 150+ invaders ambushing the fort. Are humans a ambush civ? Or should they be more like the Orcs (they have never ambushed me only outright sieges)?

I think these come from Sver's Combat Reworked. He calls them "tactical" civs and is an optional install with that mod. I'm not sure what combination of entity tokens creates the effect.

It's definitely an interesting challenge. I reworked my retracting bridge trap design to allow it to catch invisible enemies. Instead of hooking the whole bridge to a lever or levers, I only retract a part of the bridge at a time, controlled by a minecart hitting pressure plates. It's set up so that no matter what part of its "cycle" it's on, there is still a path across the bridge, so invisible enemies march right across and get dropped into whatever waits for them below.

While the challenge is interesting, it seems like it might be too hard for beginning players. If you're not planning to create optional difficulty levels, it might be better to remove.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: Chbost on October 05, 2021, 05:25:15 pm

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Medisophos

"interaction_spellcrafts_sch_a" they are labelled MEDISEPHOS

Below are examples of what some of the raw interactions names are
[INTERACTION:SPELL_MEDISEPHOS_RECUPERATION_SHORT]
[INTERACTION:SPELL_MEDISEPHOS_RECUPERATION_LONG]

I believed it was a medisephos spell but now after looking closely it was probably that the Spearnaga probably had received this powergroup:
[INORGANIC:SPELL_DIVINE_MAGIC_POWERS_PROTECTIVE]



I also did some reactions in the wizard studio, and it was from here I thought it was the medisephos school.

in reaction_spellcrafts_fort

[REACTION:SPELL_LEARN_MAGIC_MEDISEPHOS_FORT]
   [NAME:Study Simple Miracles]
   [BUILDING:SPELL_MAGIC_STUDY:e]
   [REAGENT:Grimoire:1:TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_BOOK_MAGIC:NONE:NONE][PRESERVE_REAGENT]
   [REAGENT:Divine Focus:1:TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_AMULET_MEDISEPHOS:NONE:NONE][PRESERVE_REAGENT]
   [REAGENT:Aether Salt:1:STONE:NONE:INORGANIC:AETHER_SALT]
   [PRODUCT:10:1:STONE:NONE:INORGANIC:AETHER_RESIDUE]
   [PRODUCT:10:1:STONE:NONE:INORGANIC:AETHER_SALT]
-SI-   [PRODUCT:3:1:FISH:NONE:SPELL_ESSENCE_KINEROCH:KINEROCH_LIGHTNINGBOLT]
-SI-   [PRODUCT:3:1:FISH:NONE:SPELL_ESSENCE_KINEROCH:KINEROCH_LIGHTNING_PROTECTION]
-SI-   [PRODUCT:7:1:FISH:NONE:SPELL_ESSENCE_GENERIC:GENERIC_RECUPERATION]
-SI-   [PRODUCT:7:1:FISH:NONE:SPELL_ESSENCE_GENERIC:GENERIC_FITNESS]
   [PRODUCT:5:1:FISH:NONE:SPELL_ESSENCE_MEDISEPHOS:MEDISEPHOS_RECUPERATE]
   [PRODUCT:4:1:FISH:NONE:SPELL_ESSENCE_MEDISEPHOS:MEDISEPHOS_REFORM]
   [PRODUCT:4:1:FISH:NONE:SPELL_ESSENCE_MEDISEPHOS:MEDISEPHOS_SHIELD]
   [PRODUCT:4:1:FISH:NONE:SPELL_ESSENCE_MEDISEPHOS:MEDISEPHOS_EMPOWERMENT]
   [PRODUCT:4:1:FISH:NONE:SPELL_ESSENCE_MEDISEPHOS:MEDISEPHOS_RELIEF]
   [PRODUCT:4:1:FISH:NONE:SPELL_ESSENCE_MEDISEPHOS:MEDISEPHOS_EXTENSION]
   [PRODUCT:4:1:FISH:NONE:SPELL_ESSENCE_MEDISEPHOS:MEDISEPHOS_CLOTTING]
   [PRODUCT:4:1:FISH:NONE:SPELL_ESSENCE_MEDISEPHOS:MEDISEPHOS_EVILPROTECT]
   [PRODUCT:3:1:FISH:NONE:SPELL_ESSENCE_MEDISEPHOS:MEDISEPHOS_HOLYSPIKE]
   [PRODUCT:4:1:FISH:NONE:SPELL_ESSENCE_MEDISEPHOS:MEDISEPHOS_SUBDUE]
   [PRODUCT:4:1:FISH:NONE:SPELL_ESSENCE_MEDISEPHOS:MEDISEPHOS_ZOMBIE]
   [PRODUCT:4:1:FISH:NONE:SPELL_ESSENCE_MEDISEPHOS:MEDISEPHOS_COMMUNE]
   [PRODUCT:1:1:BOULDER:NONE:INORGANIC:SPELL_LEARNTHREAT_SICKNESS]
   [PRODUCT:1:1:BOULDER:NONE:INORGANIC:SPELL_LEARNTHREAT_MANIA]
   [PRODUCT:1:1:BOULDER:NONE:INORGANIC:SPELL_LEARNTHREAT_LUCK_CURSE]
   [SKILL:ALCHEMY]
   [CATEGORY:EB_SPELLCRAFTSFORT_LEARN_MEDISEPHOS_FORT]
   [CATEGORY_NAME:Spellcrafts - Divine School]
   [CATEGORY_DESCRIPTION:Learn essentials of divine magic.]

Since the goldbar reaction gave me 150 divine focuses I decided to test this out and it was from these spells I believed he did his thing

Also when i started looking for divine/medisephos i found this in item_spellcrafts_tools

[ITEM_TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_AMULET_MEDISEPHOS]
[NAME:focus:foci]-SI-(amulet of medisephos:amulets of medisephos)

I actually have no idea where he got the resurrect wisp thing from.

I decided to make a backup and view the legends file to find out if it could be seen what he had for stuff.


(https://imgur.com/COHZYjD.png)


As show above he has the protection only, but that would not make him able to summon wisps? And I am 100% that this is the same naga that is doing this wisp magic. Could it be that legends views Divine protection as a secret? Whilst the other is not being listed? If it becomes necessary I could just go into adventuremode on this find the naga and forcecontrol him to view exactly what he can do, but this is  something of a last resort on my end.

I also found a few other nagas with the protection and one incidently with the medisephos one

(https://imgur.com/SAmzvqy.png)

So this picture above shows that the medisopos interaction/stuff is still available using the wizards studio reaction.

Anyway always fun to see the reactions working out and these nagas with the divine protection became some real beasts in combat :D

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on October 05, 2021, 06:34:09 pm

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"Medisophos"

My question was if these titles were visible ingame, and all the things you referenced are meta / in-code, so we're good!

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Tactical Civs

The tactical civs are not included in HF (much of Sver's CR is removed), however, I think I ended up re-creating the effect unintentionally in 1.0.X. I'll relook at this and tone it down.

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DIVINE_PROTECTION

Okay so this was great feedback; what it made me realize is that there are still divine spells that can be learned by praying at the holy altar, which is not intended behavior. I'll rip 'em out for the next version, and split them between the Divine wizard school and the Divine secret (chanelers? already forgot what I called it). Thank you!

Will respond to more later!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: VABritto on October 05, 2021, 08:01:10 pm

Another year passed! I had to retroactively change the year because I got the regnal year wrong by a year lol

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Yearly Legationary Report for the Barony of Feywreath.

IN THE 47TH YEAR OF THE REIGN OF HIS IMPERIAL MAJESTY, EMPEROR INBEW OF THE HOUSE OF HURAM,

GRANITE. Feywreath was founded. I Tesgenatha Izroshkofi, Legate of His Imperial Majesty, have been tasked with overseeing the settling of this new colony and give proper support and council to whoever the Faywreathians decide to rule over them as Lord. As of now, however, there is little talk of Lordship. The initial settlers are 7, including myself. Messrs. Ulek Lesec, Ujozom Wumolcescu and Cobsit Olourwawko, as well as Mmes. Last Uzustrubgano, Heg Ejatihurultisnastha and Matug Pocwut. The first order of business was to build a simple hall for shelter and to store food, as well as to start building barrels to properly store everything we need. We have brought with us two lions, two rhinoseros and two waterbuffalos, each a couple, as well as three sheep, three turkeys, three pigs and a cat. Feywreath Castle will be set on top of a steap cliff facing south to the valley below in the Depressed Lowland. Up North we have a small river. We are three days travel from the nearest settlement of our people, the Hamlet of Pertinenceplaited. Our closest human neighbours are under the jurisdiction of the vile and thieving Emperor Acsutdusha of the House of Hashestrok, over a day's travel from here. Closer still are many Goblin settlements that surround the countryside. For now we do not have any contact with them, but I am weary of not having any walls set up for our defense. I have talked to the settlers and they too seem worried at our current state. We plan on building walls as soon as possible around this high hill. I have taken upon myself the task of the village carpenter, making all the wooden furnature and utilities that Faywreath needs. Mrs. Last is digging a channel to the river and we intend to make an artificial well fed by said channel. I am building wooden mechanisms to control the floodgates that will keep the water under control.

SLATE. Mmes. Heg and Matug were attacked by an alligator and were seriously wounded. Mrs. Heg would have probably been killed if one of our lions didn't rescue her and dispatched the monster. This land is full of ferocious creatures, we have even spotted giant ants wandering about. The faster that we create the wall and have a Lord to organize the defenses, the better.

Legate Tesgenatha was killed by an alligator in the end of the month of Slate. I, Ulek Lesec, take his charge as temporary Imperial Legate. When the Emissary arrive I will speak to him of who will substitute Mr. Tesgenatha. Most of our folk are wounded, for a great band of alligators poured through the lands attacking everyone in its wake. My main job has been to gather the wounded and tend to them, although my situation is precarious. The only ones that are in any shape to help me are Mr. Cobsit, who's responsibility is to forage for food, and Mrs. Last, who is still working on our well.

HEMATITE. As determined by the Imperial Emissary, I will resume now officially the functions of Legate Tesgenatha. I have given him the report made by myself and my predecessor. From Hematite onward I will continue writing the report to be given next year this month.

MALACHITE. Five migrants have arrived. The elderly Mr. Ismu Omaramsod and his son Horun Hurcata, together with Horun's wife Budungamarop Ethridomongub, as well as Mmes. Konom Mushcarospocpuki and Rolsu Eshrelist. This brings our population up to 11 souls. I have welcomed them to our outpost and have assigned them functions. We will need all the hands we can get. After a while I sat with them and asked them of their history. Mr. Ismu is a man of venerable age, having been born 86 winters ago. He is of a warrior disposition and does not seem to care much for intellectual conversation. His son Horun shows more of an interest in that sort of thing and has more refined manners. Father and son seem very different from one another, from mannerisms, worldview and even eye color (Ismu has tawny colored eyes while Horun's are blue), but both seem to equally have an air of coldness to them that is hard to explain. Mr. Ismu went on to say that he used to be the Sergeant of Heapclonks before migrating here, confirming my first impression of him. There he met Legate Bonena Odoocon, Horun's mother. He did not talk much about her, it seems their relationship didn't go much further. Horun himself has also seen combat, having fought in the glorious assault on Infidelityedges, that devilish goblin fort having being pillaged by him and other soldiers. His wife Budungamarop is of noble blood, having been the heiress to the lordship of the hamlet of Latitudinalcelery. She gave up her inheritance to marry Mr. Horun and come to Feywreath. Mrs. Konom had a hard life, having been enslaved by the Goblins and having to resort to criminal activities to survive at times. She is not one to talk much, but the little she did say seemed dark. I did not press her further on the matter. She seems to be a friend of Mrs. Budungamarop, having come from the same hamlet. Mrs. Rolsu has previously been a Legate for the hamlet of Skillgallstone and has chosen to come to Feywreath to help in the colonization efforts.

I suggested to the settlers that Mr. Ismu be made Lord over Feywreath, mainly because of his military experience and the fact he has an Heir already present and living with us. Given how badly we need protection in these parts, nobody argued against it. And so I confirm with my Imperial Authority that in the 46th year of the reign of Inbew, in mid Malachite, the Feywreathians have chosen Ismu Omaramsod and his House for the Lordship of this Outpost. His first order of business was to prioritize the construction of the reservoir for our well and nominated Mrs. Rolsu as outpost Physician to tend to the wounded. He also ordered the burial of Legate Tesgenatha, who we haven't been able to bury all this time because of lack of manpower.

GALENA. As the well is going fast underway, Lord Ismu ordered the construction of a smithy and mandated the production of gauntlets. Legate Tesgenatha was finally buried, I took care of the matter myself.

LIMESTONE. The well was inaugurated. It is divided into three parts. A deep hole was dug in the ground on Feywreath Hill, until it got under ground level to the river. Then a tunnel was dug through all the way to the river. A floodgate was placed on the mouth of the river-side tunnel entrance, to control exactly when water can enter the tunnel. Another floodgate was placed on the midsection for safety. Finally a third floodgate was placed near the entrance to the well. Before the well's entrance's floodgate and the mid-tunnel floodgate we constructed two large reservoirs, each with floodgates attached to them so as to store a good amount of water in case we ever need to keep the river entrance closed. After the reservoir was filled to the brim, its floodgates were closed. With the tunnel itself full, we closed the river entrance. Lord Ismu wishes that it is only open when we actually need to replenish our water supply, preventing any strange creature to enter through the river tunnel. The Lord then ordered us to remove all access we can to the hill top, and build two great gates as the only entrances. All trees near the hill are to be chopped off and a road built around it to prevent new trees from growing anytime soon.

SANDSTONE. Faywreath Hill was dug around in a way that all paths up to it were removed, except the two specified by Lord Ismu. He knighted his son Horun and charged him with the defense of the settlement. Sir Horun chose Mr. Ujozom and Mr. Cobsit as his followers and with the copper we brought with us we had short swords forged for all three of them. Each were given a pair of gauntlets, greaves and wooden medium-sized shields. Lord Ismu presented his son additionally with a helm, a mail-coat, a breastplate and low boots. All made from copper. These aren't the best weapons and armor, but it was what we could do with the materials we have. Lord Ismu now wants to further dig around the cliff closer to the valley, to make it as hard and controlled as possible for anyone to get to Faywreath Hill. He showed me a plan he made of a series of gate entrances going all the way down towards the valley. There he wishes to make a town, overlooked by a future Faywreath Castle on top of the hill. "Faywreath Hill will be our safe haven in case of an attack. When that happens, we evacuate all subjects to the castle with the livestock. We will keep a large storage room here and keep enough food to last us out a siege if needed", Lord Ismu said. He then ordered that we start building the wall around said hill. Many new migrants have arrived, including a couple of necromancers, Mr. Uwsho Ozithrezbomo and Mrs. Wuvak Elsinomuthan and a daughter of the Emperor himself, Her Imperial Highness Alos Zomkor and her husband Mr. Hakudng Estxuriset. Besides them we have Mr. Woloc Golapagebekat and his wife Mrs. Ucsur Osmkawewthric, as well as Mrs. Nocpu Apsutmanomug. Lord Ismu greeted the necromancers with certain suspician. The older necromancer, Mr. Uwsho, was born before the Triarchy, in the time in which the Empire was under only one Emperor. His wife was much younger than him, but still middle-aged for our standards, yet neither looked even a bit aged except for their snow white hair. They unsettle me. Sir Horun vouched for their permenance among us, arguing that their knowledge could prove very useful for us in the long run. Lord Ismu shrugged and left it up to him. I overheard the good knight speaking to them about plans of making a wizard's towar in the eastern side of Faywreath Hill for them to stay, after the necessary defenses were sorted out. As of now none of us have any place of our own. We sleep on the hospital floor or on the grass. Lord Ismu lives in the same manner, but I have noticed that this is taking a toll on him. He is tough, but he is still an old man. While building the wall we are also at the same time building the meadhall. That is where everyone will sleep, each with his own bed, while we don't move to the valley below. There we will also have some much needed entertainment, with tables and chairs for us to drink and relax. Mrs. Mutag apparently will never recover from her injuries and is now incapable of walking or grasping anything. She manages to walk with the help of crutches, but she is basically incapable of doing any work. Lord Ismu does not force her to do anything and has stipulated a stippend to keep her comfortable. She is being taken care of by the community for the sacrifice she made in the foundation of this outpost.

OPAL. The kitchen is already set on the back of the meadhall, with the still always busy making different brews. A bit of civilization after almost a year of toil and animalistic conditions is not something to shrug off! The construction effort on the wall is focusing mostly on the eastern section. Because of the double effort of making the Hall and the wall, it is advancing slowly.

OBSIDIAN. The meadhall is finished! Now we are making a general temple so that our people may pray, the eastern walls and a tomb for Lord Ismu, since he has none yet.

On the last days of Obsidian, Mrs. Matug Pocwut died of dehydration. She refused to drink water... By the year's end, we have gained a total of 19 migrants this year. 2 of them died. My predecessor, Legate Tesgenatha Izroshkofi, by alligator attack, and my friend Mrs. Matug Pocwut, by voluntary dehydration. May they rest in peace. This brings the total of our population this year to 17 souls. The report for next Hematite continues in the next year,

IN THE 48TH YEAR OF THE REIGN OF HIS IMPERIAL MAJESTY, EMPEROR INBEW OF THE HOUSE OF HURAM,

GRANITE. We have finished making a drainpipe from the well reservoir to the valley. Lord Ismu wanted it made so we could easily dry the well if we ever wanted to make necessary changes to the system safely. He also said that it could be put to other uses, with a dark grin. I preferred not to ask which, but I trust his prudential judgement on the matter. We call the exit of this drainage tunnel the "gargoyle" and it overlooks the valley.

SLATE. Mrs. Last got stuck on a tree. We had to cut it down to free her. Luckily nobody got injured. Lord Ismu dug a basement for the entire meadhall complex. He ordered that all our food be stored there. It is a huge space and it is clear the lord wishes to make sure that they would be able to withstand a long siege. A couple of migrants have arrived. Mr. Itsub Mumuddazomo, a cousin of our Mrs. Konom, and his wife Mrs. Iwak Ngdanrathreh. Mrs. Iwak was placed on plant gathering duties with Mr. Cobsit, while Mr. Itsub is being trained as a second brewer to help our chief brewer, Mr. Woloc.

FELSITE. The eastern section of the wall is finished. All trees surrounding the hill were cut down.

HEMATITE. Lord Ismu's tomb is nearly complete. Because of this, we have begun to build the main castle-complex, with the Lord's chambers, the Lord's throne room and the Lord's study. Besides this, Sir Horun as Heir to the Lordship will also have his own chambers, dining room and studies. We haven't started this work till now because Lord Ismu insisted on focusing on providing for his subjects and preparing the defenses. But everyone could see that the living conditions were wearing him down, due to his old age. Through my insistence he ordered work to comence in providing proper quarters for himself and his House. The Emissary arrived this month and has offered Lord Ismu the title of Baron for his hard work. Emperor Inbew is seemingly impressed with how well he is conducting things in the frontier and wants to honor him. The Lord accepted the title happily.

MALACHITE. The Baron's throne room and tomb are completed. 8 migrants have arrived. Mr. Azwewtugis Xugoongothin (a nephew of Mr. Istsub and Mrs. Iwak) and his wife Mrs. Juthimuk Xacegem (who is Mrs. Wuvak's niece); Mr. Tep Epetuho (Mrs. Ucsur's cousin) and his wife Mrs. Gencoru Atorpujamuogitkel (who is Mrs. Konom's older sister!); the elderly 92-year old Mr. Oxutishmana Copteki; and finally Mmes. Iwathro Ansplegablaca, Febipupibid Vopolgosp and Thro Atluludagwa. In the end of Malachite, Innumdonen Nilumemepado, Uwsho and Wuvak's son, was born. He is the first child to be born in our settlement. I was astonished by it, for I did not know necromancers could have children.

GALENA. We have finished all the living facilities for the Baron and his family. Lord Ismu had the drainpipe tunnel's floodgate scheme refined so that we would not have to dry the well to pass through the drainpipe. Now there is a separate floodgate to keep the well water outside the drainpipe entrance. While making the change our people discovered goethite in the tunnels. Lord Ismu's reaction to it would not have been better if it was gold. He laughed with joy, holding the little stone and said "Iron! There is iron under this hill. With this, we can create a military worthy of the Empire." He ordered immediately an appraisal of the surrounding hill to find more of the ore. He will begin a mining operation from there.

SANDSTONE. Given our new found source of weapons and armor, Sir Horun decided to expand his band of warriors and enlisted Mr. Azwewtugis and Mr. Tep. Both are men in their 50s, but they are actually the youngest men in this settlement if you take out Mr. Ojozom and Mr. Cobsit (who are already enlisted) or master Innumdonen, who is just a child. Everyone will be fitted with iron armor and weapons.

A great number of immigrants have innundated Faywreath! It seems Lord Ismu's fame has been circulating far and wide as new faces emerge from the thick forest up our fortress hill. What I find most astonishing though is that it seems that Lord Ismu's tolerance for the wizards have attracted more members of their order into our home. Lord Ismu ordered a yak bull and a donkey to be killed in honor of the newcomers. First, we ascertained who was coming to our village and what their story was. He first focused on the Necromancers. The new arriving necromancers were two men, Mr. Wartha Budabolimil and Mr. Oxuthba Shororumethorpur. Of the two, the latter was the master of our resident necromancer Mr. Uwsho. Lord Ismu got all four necromancers together in his throne room and told them to tell him everything about the order. Who they were, how many, where they were located. They said they come from the Order of Dideobsa. Their founder is a woman named Cust Zabanened. She began the order in the 11th year of the reign of Emperor Huram, though she herself has been a Necromancer since the 22nd year of the reign of Emperor Ihdetre, first of the Triarchs of our jurisdiction. She learned Necromancy by reading from a slate slab containing the secrets of life and death. This slab's name is Ngibedlemsostiggul, and it was created by the god of Death Quest Domeguxuluceslo. So although the order itself was founded 79 years ago, her Necromantic lineage began 102 years ago. Mrs. Cust was the first chieftess of the Order. It seems that because the half-angel Rouku Bubaam stole Ngibedlemsostiggul and took it to Jadedburlesqued, Chieftess Cust started a war with the Caliph of the half-angels, Lord Aku Bakoum. They conquored two settlements from the half-angels, so it wasn't complete foolishness. But in the 3rd of Inbew, the half-angels managed to turn the tide and sacked the tower of Rock-nutencodes, where their seat of power was. Chieftess Cust was taken in chains and made prisoner. She fled again many years later, but by then the Order was already in other hands and she had to move to another town, in which it is said to this day she schemes to grab hold of power once more. In the ensuing chaos of the sacking of the tower, Uthathradi Memoguselesmitho, a young member of the order, became its chieftess the very next year. This position she managed to hold on to for only a year, until again the half-angels attacked and she was taken prisoner. She is still their prisoner to this day, working as a scholar for them. A much senior member of the order, Odapi Loshsiguk, then became Chieftess. And again the fighting continued, with Odapi being taken prisoner and only escaping decades later, but suffering the same fate as Cust. The next chieftess was Urdinut Erthabbagwakju, Odapi's master. He managed to hold onto power for only another year before being ousted by the Caliph. He also fled from prison years later. The next to assume power was Chieftain Facos Rathrehwewom, who was under the same master as Urdinut (master Igonadapin Opgusieb), and it was this same master Igonadapin Opgusieb who later the next year, on the 8th of Inbew, became Chieftain, after Facos was captured by Aku. Facos also escaped from prison. From then on, Chieftain Igonadapin has reigned over the Order, him being a direct disciple of Cust Zabanened. Although the tower has been sacked many times (in fact it has been sacked as early as last year, from what they report), the Caliph has not been able to capture the illusive Chieftain Igonadapin. I leave in this writing a copy of their lineage, as told by them. Lord Ismu decided to keep it in case more of their order appear, so that he may know who they are. This is the transcript:


"The Necromantic Order of Dideobsa was founded by Cust Zabanened, who learned it from the slate slab of Ngibedlemsostiggul, created by the god of Death Quest Domeguxuluceslo. The order branches out into two distinct Houses, from Cust's two apprentices, the House of Odukocparuhob, the older lineage, and the House of Opgusieb, the younger lineage. The younger lineage is the ruling House, being Igonadapin Opgusieb the Chieftain of Dideobsa.

Quest created Ngibedlemsostiggul.
From Ngibedlemsostiggul, Cust Zabanened became the first.
Cust had Ipabel Odukocparuhob and Igonadapin Opgusieb.

Ipabel Odukocparuhob had Manget Ubturoxenga.
Manget had Wuvak Elsinomuthan.
Wuvak had Quem Ungotidire, Ufol Vidilrafebbak and Othrupim Zabatokibonema.

Quem had Ujit Uquenthequosa.
Ujit had Hin Uxemarinocgoc, creator of the race known as the Eyes of Uxemarinocgoc.

Ufol had Vis Zospabreturo.
Vis had Ikasm Vedolumig.

Othrupim had Ran Oquiaspibe.

From these, Quem died on the 33rd of Inbew, struck down by a golem; Hin died on the 35th of Inbew, struck by a dragon; and Ikasm died on the 47th of Inbew, fighting three dark gnomes in the siege of Immanentsally. While killing two of them, he was slain by the last. With this, the House of Odukocparuhob has 8 living souls in total.

Igonadapin Opgusieb had Urdinut Erthabbagwakju and Facos Rathrehwewom.

Urdinut had Odapi Loshsiguk.
Odapi had Ohwothng Acstubtungir.
Ohwothng had Sinathistram Iddajithram.
Sinathistram had Bihom Kemithcucitlud.
Bihom had Uthathradi Memoguselesmitho.
Uthathradi had Eshmuthetuth Ospifengil.
Eshmuthetuth had Keplem Cestahebor.
Keplem had Besp Uthesatwena.

Facos had Ikudo Sushagulbikate.
Ikudo had Apista Acaconmomoojorbesta and Oxuthba Shororumethorpur.
Apista had Ogor Kilusmlerostreg, Eshe Apsuucenodolerab and Ipumash Urishimel.

Eshe had Iwarolera Gabpathadoecsu.
Iwarolera had Jelthralithi Ohudpasoncist.
Jelthralithi had Wartha Budabolimil and Dolmo Ufodasmal.
Wartha had Ipbin Ufodawumol and Sesmi Picpukidunel.

Ipbin had Nacnam Ujithaegetob.
Nacnam had Jastiga Carimielothen.

Oxuthba had Uwsho Ozithrezbomo.
Uwsho had Oquov Ceszizemeko.

From these, Bihom died on the 8th of Inbew, struck down by a bronze colossus; Eshmuthetuth died a year later, killed by a giant mosquito while hunting giant beasts; and Ipbin died on the 22nd of Inbew, slain by a dragon. In total, the House of Opgusieb, has 26 living souls.

The entire Order of Dideobsa has in total 34 living souls."

Of these, Oxuthba is Uwsho's master and part of the ruling House of Opgusieb. Wartha is also from this House, but farther down the line from Cust. Mrs. Wuvak is of the House of Odukocparuhob and much senior up the line, having as master
Manget, who's master is Ipabel Cust's apprentice. Of these it seems clear that Mr. Oxuthba holds precedence, and so we are treating him as such. Lord Ismu made him responsible for the behavior of the other necromancers of the order while in Faywreath.

Talking more with them, we have found that many of them faught in the siege of Infidelityedges, which increased manyfold the goodwill of the Faywreathians towards them. Most from their order were enslaved by the half-angels. Although many managed to escape, some are still in bondage, others are imprisoned elsewhere. Most of them seem to be free, though. Inquiring over the slab that founded the order, it seems it was stolen from the half-angels by a dark gnome named Zug Nimematistekzagoth, and to this day she has it tucked away in the hillocks of Penancemenacled. All of the necromancers here seem to speak of the subject with anger. They feel cheated on and it seems like they will not forget this slight until they recover what was once theirs.

Besides the necromancers, we have also received as migrants Mr. Ucstrib Vicditow (Mr. Tep's uncle) and his wife Tot Oxurfanid; Mrs. Tot's younger brother Wenilluh Thdomceste (both being cousins of the necromancer Mr. Wartha); as well as Mmes. Ditkit Zabiiwol and Hibtu Lumoljonmuthi. Mrs. Ucsur (Chief Brewer Mr. Woloc's wife) is a niece of Mrs. Tot and a cousin of Mr. Tep! It seems many of our migrants are sending letters home with the merchants and Emissary. Their kinsmen are all coming to the barony.

OPAL. Mr. Oxutishmana has forged all of the iron armor Sir Horun and his followers will require. His work is ver impressive, most are masterpieces!

OBSIDIAN. This year, we had 17 new migrants to the barony, one birth (our first, master Innumdonen Nilumemepado) and no deaths. With thus a total of 35 souls and counting. The report for next Hematite continues in the next year,

IN THE 49TH YEAR OF THE REIGN OF HIS IMPERIAL MAJESTY, EMPEROR INBEW OF THE HOUSE OF HURAM,

GRANITE.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: DwarfStar on October 06, 2021, 12:14:59 am

Quote from: Chbost on October 05, 2021, 05:25:15 pm

Could it be that legends views Divine protection as a secret?

If it's a secret, and you have DFHack, you should be able to find out by typing "show-unit-syndromes selected" in the DFHack prompt with the unit selected.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: VABritto on October 06, 2021, 05:29:25 pm

I have bought a grimoire that came from merchants. What do I do with it? (Fortress mode here)

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on October 06, 2021, 07:10:46 pm

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Got a grimoire

Good work! Build a wizard's study, create some aether salt (there are many ways to do so), then start doing the reaction "study magic in general" until you get an aether focus. Then "study aether magic" until you earn some kickass spells, which your wizard will likely consume and learn!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: VABritto on October 06, 2021, 08:33:56 pm

Nice! So I can basically train wizards? Can I define specific dwarves for these tasks? Where are they in the job preference list? I want to allocate only my Necromancers to study magic.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on October 07, 2021, 02:07:43 pm

Question about the planned tileset for Premium: are you planning on something that will integrate smoothly with the new (well, not so new by this point but you know what I mean) vanilla tileset? Or will it be a different tileset entirely?

Also, is it important to the functionality of the mod that I keep the entire expanded word list intact? I'm really starting to notice just how much more impenetrable names like "Oru Father-in-lawtriumphed" make legends mode, which could be difficult enough to parse in vanilla.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on October 08, 2021, 11:25:39 am

-Hoping to drop an experimental release of 1.2.1 today, folks, so check here tonight!-
This release has been delayed because I've been using a new tool from voliol to do some minor but comprehensive rebalancing of creatures in biomes.

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Nice! So I can basically train wizards? Can I define specific dwarves for these tasks? Where are they in the job preference list? I want to allocate only my Necromancers to study magic.

Great question, answer is yes. You do it using stockpiles, military, and burrows.

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1. Build a wizard study. Craft a magestaff and some mage charges (you'll need gems for this. Don't forget to edit the reaction in your save so that magecharges are made of AETHER_METALLIC not AETHER!!! See earlier in this thread.)
2. Create a military squad for your necromancers or intended wizards, and assign them all magestaffs and charges as a ranged weapon and ammo. Raise their skills however you like - archery range probably works, which is pretty funny, or raids, or wild creatures. This will raise their "Alchemist" skill.
Normally you can track who is raising their alchemist skill because they'll be called "wizard" instead of "miner, etc"; with necromancers, that's a special title (so is Sorcerer, and there are other secret-based ones too), so I think they will be called Necromancer Wizard, which is intended behavior.... or maybe they will just stay called Necromancer.
3. Once their alchemist skill is at least turned on (which should be very quick, you can guess on it), create a burrow around the wizard study and lock them in. Maybe provide some nice food and drink and beds. Now you need a diamond, to craft a grimoire. Once you've got the diamond and crafted the grimoire, you can do the reaction "study magic in general", evenually get a aether focus, then start the reaction "study aether magic," and voila.
4. Each of these "study magic..." has a chance to generate an "essence" which is a food that teaches a spell. It's much more common for the "study aether magic" reaction. If only your necromancers are allowed into the burrow, and/or if those essences are not allowed to leave the area of the burrow, then only your necromancers will learn those spells!
5. Also, I forget which version you are playing on (hence why I'm trying to limit the major releases!") but if it's 1.2.+, make sure you go until you get a second aether focus, so you can knock the two of them together and teach your necromancers the ice spells they were always intended to have!

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Premium tileset

Absolutely the former - ie, matching the vanilla tileset. Luckily, a lot of highfantasy sprites can be done via palette swap of vanilla, especially thanks to the disguise sytem, and I intend to abuse that heavily.
It will go something like this:

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v.X release: write in placeholder tile hooks, which will probably just be the old letters of the alphabet, for every HF creature and sprite. This means that we'll be able to make HF worlds immediately, and just swap the sprite sheets later without breaking worlds. I think.
v.Y release: add in all the HF sprites that can be made off of vanilla sprite swaps or tiny sprite edits, like the Siren from Harpy, to cover most creatures.
v.Z release: with the help of other authors for their mods, add in sprites for creatures in highfantasy and the related mods that don't copy easily from a vanilla sprite, like... the Zm5 eldritch creatures would eventually come from ZM5 who will establish a new "canon" appearance for them. I'm not sure if there even are any truly my-own HF creatures that are so different from vanilla that I can't make them with a relatively easy sprite swap! Mostly that's stuff from the included mods.

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Expanded words

The expanded words list is tough to remove once it has been put in, and I'm not sure why - probably because some vanilla files were overridden. You are more than welcome to try, though, just make sure there aren't legends mode anomolies after you do it. Also, you may have to re-define the "obscene words" wordlist since that is "called" by every entiry. It's potentially a lot of work, a little harder than just dropping back in the vanilla files.
Hypothetically this will become an almost non-issue with the premium release's ability to click through legends mode better.
By the way, my other to-do for the premium release, besides the obvious graphics, is to further expand the word list (and possibly remove from the -edit- other mod's -/edit- word list that you're referencing). I want to get new Highfantasy creatures (Siren, etc) and concepts (Pyromancy, Focus, Gun, etc) into it, which is not that hard but something I'm not dedicating time to presently.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: Splint on October 08, 2021, 11:46:48 am

Uhhh, Vanilla Expanded doesn't touch the language files. You sure it's not some other mod you meant to reference there?

Also good luck far as anything regarding graphics goes. I was gonna do some for ZM's critters but there's just so damn many.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on October 08, 2021, 11:51:07 am

-Hoping to drop an experimental release of 1.2.1 today, folks, so check here tonight!-
This release has been delayed because I've been using a new tool from voliol to do some minor but comprehensive rebalancing of creatures in biomes.

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word list

derp, excuse me Splint, I meant to say that I know the expanded word list is from one of the first three mods integrated into HF, which I always get three three of them mixed up - Modest Mod, DF Revised, and Vanilla Spice Revised - because they all make tiny, overlapping edits to the raws.
Vanilla Expanded is of course something completely different which adds cool content, including more than what HF uses, and folks should be checking it out ;)

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The Necromantic Order of Dideobsa
Their founder is a woman named Cust Zabanened
the god of Death Quest Domeguxuluceslo
the slate slab of Ngibedlemsostiggul
the Caliph of the half-angels, Lord Aku Bakoum
the elusive Chieftain Igonadapin

WOW! This is honestly one of the most interesting DF blood fued stories I've read yet. I was not expecting this twist! DF provides such fascinating interconnectivity of its world. The little details, such as the Feywreathed citizens being grateful to them! Man, those half-angels really have a vendetta against Cust. I'll be curious to see if Cust and/or Ngibedlemsostiggul end up playing further roles in your story. Also, man, Lord Aku is a vicious fellow.

I actually have a request for you VABritto (and anyone else who is telling such great stories).

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

You seem to enjoy storytelling here, and I'm certainly appreciating it. When I release 1.2.1, I'm going to finally advertise HF, just one time, on reddit. You know what else DF reddit loves? Stories. After I put out 1.2.1 (not the experimental branch today, but the final branch hopefully next friday), it would be super cool to see you post whatever years of Feywreathed you have up there as a storytelling! You know, the infamous DF story "boatmurdered" itself also occured in a non-vanilla world, I think possibly in Dark Ages (which is like the IP-heavy version of HF!), so people are used to this.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: VABritto on October 08, 2021, 01:13:31 pm

Quote from: kiiranaux on October 08, 2021, 11:25:39 am

I want to get new Highfantasy creatures (Siren, etc) and concepts (Pyromancy, Focus, Gun, etc) into it, which is not that hard but something I'm not dedicating time to presently.

I am pretty busy most of the day, but if you want I can make up some words and send it to you in excel (or whatever format is better for you) that isn't in the files.

I'm also having a bit of trouble with legends because of how gigantic and strange (even by DF standards) some names get. The only up side is that most people in the world have unique first names after 125 years lol

Besides this, I have one feedback regarding the tileset: Although the '.' marks instead of the usual grass markers did "clean" the screen a lot, it also caused a bit of depth confusion because things that are a level under it are also marked with '.' So I have to keep going one level up and see what is in blue to properly distinguish depth. I personally think the trade-off isn't much worth it, but maybe that's just me.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: VABritto on October 08, 2021, 01:27:29 pm

Quote from: kiiranaux on October 08, 2021, 11:51:07 am

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The Necromantic Order of Dideobsa
Their founder is a woman named Cust Zabanened
the god of Death Quest Domeguxuluceslo
the slate slab of Ngibedlemsostiggul
the Caliph of the half-angels, Lord Aku Bakoum
the elusive Chieftain Igonadapin

WOW! This is honestly one of the most interesting DF blood fued stories I've read yet. I was not expecting this twist! DF provides such fascinating interconnectivity of its world. The little details, such as the Feywreathed citizens being grateful to them! Man, those half-angels really have a vendetta against Cust. I'll be curious to see if Cust and/or Ngibedlemsostiggul end up playing further roles in your story. Also, man, Lord Aku is a vicious fellow.

Yeah, I found it pretty epic! Ngibedlemsostiggul was stolen from the half-angels afterwards and taken by a dark-gnome. To this day, the only Necromancer who learned the secrets of life and death through it was Cust, so it is pretty much her Order's slab. Neither the Angel nor the Dark-Gnome seemed to want to actually read from it. The feud between the half-angels and the necromancers is pretty brutal. They faught pretty valiantly for many years and actually conquered TWO settlements from the half-angels (which I found insanely cool), but alas, the tide turned eventually and after that, as you can see, there was a sacking of their tower almost yearly at times. And a lot of them always were taken into slavery or prison after that. Before Chieftain Igonadapin, every time the tower was sacked they captured their chieftain. They usually escaped later on, but by then they were no longer the civ leader. Only Chieftain Igonadapin managed to escape capture, seemingly without any reason to it. I like to imagine that he is simply elusive and smart enough to hide when needed. Cust became a crime boss in a random city, so I imagine her plotting to return to power and remove her apprentice from the chieftaincy. I might go to war with the half-angels to help them out one day, but we still need to prepare a proper military.

Quote from: kiiranaux on October 08, 2021, 11:51:07 am

I actually have a request for you VABritto (and anyone else who is telling such great stories).

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You seem to enjoy storytelling here, and I'm certainly appreciating it. When I release 1.2.1, I'm going to finally advertise HF, just one time, on reddit. You know what else DF reddit loves? Stories. After I put out 1.2.1 (not the experimental branch today, but the final branch hopefully next friday), it would be super cool to see you post whatever years of Feywreathed you have up there as a storytelling! You know, the infamous DF story "boatmurdered" itself also occured in a non-vanilla world, I think possibly in Dark Ages (which is like the IP-heavy version of HF!), so people are used to this.

you have my permission to show my story to whoever you like, mate, no problem lol If it helps, you can post it on reddit ^^ I don't actually use reddit so I don't mind if you do it. I am finding Faywreath to be a pretty interesting settlement. It is so far the most different one I made so far. Also am happy that only two people died so far (and both because of problems from the first year). Not having dwarves with strange moods is actually one of the best part of the experience so far lol My people die because they were actually attacked or suffered something in which that makes sense (within DF limits of course lol). Not because I don't have shells in my fortress!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: FiveBalesOfHay on October 08, 2021, 02:55:32 pm

This mod is very fun. I’ve been playing hobgoblins; my fortress is on the surface, protected by a river surrounding it on three sides. I recently had to deal with a were-elk problem, though, as it turns out werebeasts can walk across the floor of the river since they don’t need to breathe.

Also, my hobgoblins can’t seem to make staffs. I think this is because they can’t carve jewels? I’m not sure if this is a bug or intended. The new tileset is also irksome. I embarked in a desert, and the bright yellow ì is rather painful to stare at for too long.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on October 08, 2021, 03:06:45 pm

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FeyWreathed

Amazing, thank you! Give it some time haha.

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My hobgoblins can't make staffs

Whoops, you're right, it's because the civ lacks encrustgem and cutgem. I'll fix that for the next release for all civs. In the meantime, you should be able to turn on those labors for an individual hobgoblin via the labors command. (link) (https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Labor#Assigning_labors) I've used this before to let elves chop down an annoying tree....

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: VABritto on October 08, 2021, 03:25:02 pm

Hey Kiiranaux, I noticed something that might be a bug, but a pretty minor one (also, forgive my memory. It happened a while ago so I don't really know for sure how accurate this is lol) : It seems that I can only make wooden slabs (or write on it, I don't remember) when masonry is enabled, even though it is made of wood. Again, sorry for the vagueness.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on October 08, 2021, 04:05:27 pm

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changing the dots for grass '.'

Remember, this one is a config setting in d_init, [VARIED_GROUND_TILES, so you can change it back to YES at any time. It's not a real "feature" of HF, just a suggestion!

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Making wooden slabs requires masonry

Interesting, I just checked the reaction from brolol's Human Fortress, which i think is where you'd be seeing it, and as far as I can tell it's working correctly. Can you give any more info on this? Spoilered here is the reaction as written, which correctly asks for carpentry:

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[REACTION:hf_CARPENTER_SLAB_WOOD]
   [NAME:Carve wood slab]
   [BUILDING:CARPENTER:CUSTOM_SHIFT_S]
   [REAGENT:A:1:WOOD:NONE:NONE:NONE]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:SLAB:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:NONE]
   [SKILL:CARPENTRY]

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: VABritto on October 08, 2021, 04:11:02 pm

It was when the settlement was in the first year, so I don't recall exactly. It might be that it can't be made or that it can't be engraved, without masonry. When I start a new fortress I'll try it again (because now I have so many people in mine that I can't really do it practically) and then I'll inform you where the problem actually lies. But that might take a while because I don't plan on changing fortress at least until I get the village in the valley and all the buildings I want to have there lol

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on October 08, 2021, 04:46:15 pm

Sure thing, and I've been pleased that there's been no gigantic bug or missed feature forcing you to skip out on this world. You should definitely play it until it has exceeded its fun!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on October 08, 2021, 11:47:15 pm

Have you confirmed that the "popular animal person" tag is working? Just that several of the worlds I've spawned haven't had hyena men, tiger men, elephant men, etc. available to play in adventure mode despite most of the worlds being large and climatically-diverse enough to support all of them.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on October 09, 2021, 12:02:46 am

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Popular animal men

Oh, interesting! I actually know why that is now - it's because despite them being so common, they inherit the tag [LARGE_PREDATOR] meaning only one of them can spawn in a given GOOD biome, and there are few GOOD biomes per world.
This feedback is great evidence that it needs to be removed from both the popular squad and animalmen in general. For now, add this fix to CV:Popular before you generate your next world:

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   [CV_REMOVE_TAG:LARGE_PREDATOR]

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: VABritto on October 09, 2021, 09:38:59 pm

And another year passed just like the last. I have noticed I have been writing the name Feywreath wrong for a long while. It isn`t Faywreath but Feywreath. So I changed it here lol

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Yearly Legationary Report for the County of Feywreath.

IN THE 47TH YEAR OF THE REIGN OF HIS IMPERIAL MAJESTY, EMPEROR INBEW OF THE HOUSE OF HURAM,

GRANITE. Feywreath was founded. I Tesgenatha Izroshkofi, Legate of His Imperial Majesty, have been tasked with overseeing the settling of this new colony and give proper support and council to whoever the Feywreathians decide to rule over them as Lord. As of now, however, there is little talk of Lordship. The initial settlers are 7, including myself. Messrs. Ulek Lesec, Ujozom Wumolcescu and Cobsit Olourwawko, as well as Mmes. Last Uzustrubgano, Heg Ejatihurultisnastha and Matug Pocwut. The first order of business was to build a simple hall for shelter and to store food, as well as to start building barrels to properly store everything we need. We have brought with us two lions, two rhinoseros and two waterbuffalos, each a couple, as well as three sheep, three turkeys, three pigs and a cat. Feywreath Castle will be set on top of a steap cliff facing south to the valley below in the Depressed Lowland. Up North we have a small river. We are three days travel from the nearest settlement of our people, the Hamlet of Pertinenceplaited. Our closest human neighbours are under the jurisdiction of the vile and thieving Emperor Acsutdusha of the House of Hashestrok, over a day's travel from here. Closer still are many Goblin settlements that surround the countryside. For now we do not have any contact with them, but I am weary of not having any walls set up for our defense. I have talked to the settlers and they too seem worried at our current state. We plan on building walls as soon as possible around this high hill. I have taken upon myself the task of the village carpenter, making all the wooden furnature and utilities that Feywreath needs. Mrs. Last is digging a channel to the river and we intend to make an artificial well fed by said channel. I am building wooden mechanisms to control the floodgates that will keep the water under control.

SLATE. Mmes. Heg and Matug were attacked by an alligator and were seriously wounded. Mrs. Heg would have probably been killed if one of our lions didn't rescue her and dispatched the monster. This land is full of ferocious creatures, we have even spotted giant ants wandering about. The faster that we create the wall and have a Lord to organize the defenses, the better.

Legate Tesgenatha was killed by an alligator in the end of the month of Slate. I, Ulek Lesec, take his charge as temporary Imperial Legate. When the Emissary arrive I will speak to him of who will substitute Mr. Tesgenatha. Most of our folk are wounded, for a great band of alligators poured through the lands attacking everyone in its wake. My main job has been to gather the wounded and tend to them, although my situation is precarious. The only ones that are in any shape to help me are Mr. Cobsit, who's responsibility is to forage for food, and Mrs. Last, who is still working on our well.

HEMATITE. As determined by the Imperial Emissary, I will resume now officially the functions of Legate Tesgenatha. I have given him the report made by myself and my predecessor. From Hematite onward I will continue writing the report to be given next year this month.

MALACHITE. Five migrants have arrived. The elderly Mr. Ismu Omaramsod and his son Horun Hurcata, together with Horun's wife Budungamarop Ethridomongub, as well as Mmes. Konom Mushcarospocpuki and Rolsu Eshrelist. This brings our population up to 11 souls. I have welcomed them to our outpost and have assigned them functions. We will need all the hands we can get. After a while I sat with them and asked them of their history. Mr. Ismu is a man of venerable age, having been born 86 winters ago. He is of a warrior disposition and does not seem to care much for intellectual conversation. His son Horun shows more of an interest in that sort of thing and has more refined manners. Father and son seem very different from one another, from mannerisms, worldview and even eye color (Ismu has tawny colored eyes while Horun's are blue), but both seem to equally have an air of coldness to them that is hard to explain. Mr. Ismu went on to say that he used to be the Sergeant of Heapclonks before migrating here, confirming my first impression of him. There he met Legate Bonena Odoocon, Horun's mother. He did not talk much about her, it seems their relationship didn't go much further. Horun himself has also seen combat, having fought in the glorious assault on Infidelityedges, that devilish goblin fort having being pillaged by him and other soldiers. His wife Budungamarop is of noble blood, having been the heiress to the lordship of the hamlet of Latitudinalcelery. She gave up her inheritance to marry Mr. Horun and come to Feywreath. Mrs. Konom had a hard life, having been enslaved by the Goblins and having to resort to criminal activities to survive at times. She is not one to talk much, but the little she did say seemed dark. I did not press her further on the matter. She seems to be a friend of Mrs. Budungamarop, having come from the same hamlet. Mrs. Rolsu has previously been a Legate for the hamlet of Skillgallstone and has chosen to come to Feywreath to help in the colonization efforts.

I suggested to the settlers that Mr. Ismu be made Lord over Feywreath, mainly because of his military experience and the fact he has an Heir already present and living with us. Given how badly we need protection in these parts, nobody argued against it. And so I confirm with my Imperial Authority that in the 46th year of the reign of Inbew, in mid Malachite, the Feywreathians have chosen Ismu Omaramsod and his House for the Lordship of this Outpost. His first order of business was to prioritize the construction of the reservoir for our well and nominated Mrs. Rolsu as outpost Physician to tend to the wounded. He also ordered the burial of Legate Tesgenatha, who we haven't been able to bury all this time because of lack of manpower.

GALENA. As the well is going fast underway, Lord Ismu ordered the construction of a smithy and mandated the production of gauntlets. Legate Tesgenatha was finally buried, I took care of the matter myself.

LIMESTONE. The well was inaugurated. It is divided into three parts. A deep hole was dug in the ground on Feywreath Hill, until it got under ground level to the river. Then a tunnel was dug through all the way to the river. A floodgate was placed on the mouth of the river-side tunnel entrance, to control exactly when water can enter the tunnel. Another floodgate was placed on the midsection for safety. Finally a third floodgate was placed near the entrance to the well. Before the well's entrance's floodgate and the mid-tunnel floodgate we constructed two large reservoirs, each with floodgates attached to them so as to store a good amount of water in case we ever need to keep the river entrance closed. After the reservoir was filled to the brim, its floodgates were closed. With the tunnel itself full, we closed the river entrance. Lord Ismu wishes that it is only open when we actually need to replenish our water supply, preventing any strange creature to enter through the river tunnel. The Lord then ordered us to remove all access we can to the hill top, and build two great gates as the only entrances. All trees near the hill are to be chopped off and a road built around it to prevent new trees from growing anytime soon.

SANDSTONE. Feywreath Hill was dug around in a way that all paths up to it were removed, except the two specified by Lord Ismu. He knighted his son Horun and charged him with the defense of the settlement. Sir Horun chose Mr. Ujozom and Mr. Cobsit as his followers and with the copper we brought with us we had short swords forged for all three of them. Each were given a pair of gauntlets, greaves and wooden medium-sized shields. Lord Ismu presented his son additionally with a helm, a mail-coat, a breastplate and low boots. All made from copper. These aren't the best weapons and armor, but it was what we could do with the materials we have. Lord Ismu now wants to further dig around the cliff closer to the valley, to make it as hard and controlled as possible for anyone to get to Feywreath Hill. He showed me a plan he made of a series of gate entrances going all the way down towards the valley. There he wishes to make a town, overlooked by a future Feywreath Castle on top of the hill. "Feywreath Hill will be our safe haven in case of an attack. When that happens, we evacuate all subjects to the castle with the livestock. We will keep a large storage room here and keep enough food to last us out a siege if needed", Lord Ismu said. He then ordered that we start building the wall around said hill. Many new migrants have arrived, including a couple of Necromancers, Mr. Uwsho Ozithrezbomo and Mrs. Wuvak Elsinomuthan and a daughter of the Emperor himself, Her Imperial Highness Alos Zomkor and her husband Mr. Hakudng Estxuriset. Besides them we have Mr. Woloc Golapagebekat and his wife Mrs. Ucsur Osmkawewthric, as well as Mrs. Nocpu Apsutmanomug. Lord Ismu greeted the Necromancers with certain suspician. The older Necromancer, Mr. Uwsho, was born before the Triarchy, in the time in which the Empire was under only one Emperor. His wife was much younger than him, but still middle-aged for our standards, yet neither looked even a bit aged except for their snow white hair. They unsettle me. Sir Horun vouched for their permenance among us, arguing that their knowledge could prove very useful for us in the long run. Lord Ismu shrugged and left it up to him. I overheard the good knight speaking to them about plans of making a wizard's towar in the eastern side of Feywreath Hill for them to stay, after the necessary defenses were sorted out. As of now none of us have any place of our own. We sleep on the hospital floor or on the grass. Lord Ismu lives in the same manner, but I have noticed that this is taking a toll on him. He is tough, but he is still an old man. While building the wall we are also at the same time building the meadhall. That is where everyone will sleep, each with his own bed, while we don't move to the valley below. There we will also have some much needed entertainment, with tables and chairs for us to drink and relax. Mrs. Mutag apparently will never recover from her injuries and is now incapable of walking or grasping anything. She manages to walk with the help of crutches, but she is basically incapable of doing any work. Lord Ismu does not force her to do anything and has stipulated a stippend to keep her comfortable. She is being taken care of by the community for the sacrifice she made in the foundation of this outpost.

OPAL. The kitchen is already set on the back of the meadhall, with the still always busy making different brews. A bit of civilization after almost a year of toil and animalistic conditions is not something to shrug off! The construction effort on the wall is focusing mostly on the eastern section. Because of the double effort of making the Hall and the wall, it is advancing slowly.

OBSIDIAN. The meadhall is finished! Now we are making a general temple so that our people may pray, the eastern walls and a tomb for Lord Ismu, since he has none yet.

On the last days of Obsidian, Mrs. Matug Pocwut died of dehydration. She refused to drink water... By the year's end, we have gained a total of 19 migrants this year. 2 of them died. My predecessor, Legate Tesgenatha Izroshkofi, by alligator attack, and my friend Mrs. Matug Pocwut, by voluntary dehydration. May they rest in peace. This brings the total of our population this year to 17 souls. The report for next Hematite continues in the next year,

IN THE 48TH YEAR OF THE REIGN OF HIS IMPERIAL MAJESTY, EMPEROR INBEW OF THE HOUSE OF HURAM,

GRANITE. We have finished making a drainpipe from the well reservoir to the valley. Lord Ismu wanted it made so we could easily dry the well if we ever wanted to make necessary changes to the system safely. He also said that it could be put to other uses, with a dark grin. I preferred not to ask which, but I trust his prudential judgement on the matter. We call the exit of this drainage tunnel the "gargoyle" and it overlooks the valley.

SLATE. Mrs. Last got stuck on a tree. We had to cut it down to free her. Luckily nobody got injured. Lord Ismu dug a basement for the entire meadhall complex. He ordered that all our food be stored there. It is a huge space and it is clear the lord wishes to make sure that they would be able to withstand a long siege. A couple of migrants have arrived. Mr. Itsub Mumuddazomo, a cousin of our Mrs. Konom, and his wife Mrs. Iwak Ngdanrathreh. Mrs. Iwak was placed on plant gathering duties with Mr. Cobsit, while Mr. Itsub is being trained as a second brewer to help our chief brewer, Mr. Woloc.

FELSITE. The eastern section of the wall is finished. All trees surrounding the hill were cut down.

HEMATITE. Lord Ismu's tomb is nearly complete. Because of this, we have begun to build the main castle-complex, with the Lord's chambers, the Lord's throne room and the Lord's study. Besides this, Sir Horun as Heir to the Lordship will also have his own chambers, dining room and studies. We haven't started this work till now because Lord Ismu insisted on focusing on providing for his subjects and preparing the defenses. But everyone could see that the living conditions were wearing him down, due to his old age. Through my insistence he ordered work to comence in providing proper quarters for himself and his House. The Emissary arrived this month and has offered Lord Ismu the title of Baron for his hard work. Emperor Inbew is seemingly impressed with how well he is conducting things in the frontier and wants to honor him. The Lord accepted the title happily.

MALACHITE. The Baron's throne room and tomb are completed. 8 migrants have arrived. Mr. Azwewtugis Xugoongothin (a nephew of Mr. Istsub and Mrs. Iwak) and his wife Mrs. Juthimuk Xacegem (who is Mrs. Wuvak's niece); Mr. Tep Epetuho (Mrs. Ucsur's cousin) and his wife Mrs. Gencoru Atorpujamuogitkel (who is Mrs. Konom's older sister!); the elderly 92-year old Mr. Oxutishmana Copteki; and finally Mmes. Iwathro Ansplegablaca, Febipupibid Vopolgosp and Thro Atluludagwa. In the end of Malachite, Innumdonen Nilumemepado, Uwsho and Wuvak's son, was born. He is the first child to be born in our settlement. I was astonished by it, for I did not know Necromancers could have children.

GALENA. We have finished all the living facilities for the Baron and his family. Lord Ismu had the drainpipe tunnel's floodgate scheme refined so that we would not have to dry the well to pass through the drainpipe. Now there is a separate floodgate to keep the well water outside the drainpipe entrance. While making the change our people discovered goethite in the tunnels. Lord Ismu's reaction to it would not have been better if it was gold. He laughed with joy, holding the little stone and said "Iron! There is iron under this hill. With this, we can create a military worthy of the Empire." He ordered immediately an appraisal of the surrounding hill to find more of the ore. He will begin a mining operation from there.

SANDSTONE. Given our new found source of weapons and armor, Sir Horun decided to expand his band of warriors and enlisted Mr. Azwewtugis and Mr. Tep. Both are men in their 50s, but they are actually the youngest men in this settlement if you take out Mr. Ojozom and Mr. Cobsit (who are already enlisted) or master Innumdonen, who is just a child. Everyone will be fitted with iron armor and weapons.

A great number of immigrants have innundated Feywreath! It seems Lord Ismu's fame has been circulating far and wide as new faces emerge from the thick forest up our fortress hill. What I find most astonishing though is that it seems that Lord Ismu's tolerance for the wizards have attracted more members of their order into our home. Lord Ismu ordered a yak bull and a donkey to be killed in honor of the newcomers. First, we ascertained who was coming to our village and what their story was. He first focused on the Necromancers. The new arriving Necromancers were two men, Mr. Wartha Budabolimil and Mr. Oxuthba Shororumethorpur. Of the two, the latter was the master of our resident Necromancer Mr. Uwsho. Lord Ismu got all four Necromancers together in his throne room and told them to tell him everything about the order. Who they were, how many, where they were located. They said they come from the Order of Dideobsa. Their founder is a woman named Cust Zabanened. She began the order in the 11th year of the reign of Emperor Huram, though she herself has been a Necromancer since the 22nd year of the reign of his predecessor Emperor Ihdetre, first of the Triarchs of our jurisdiction. She learned Necromancy by reading from a slate slab containing the secrets of life and death. This slab's name is Ngibedlemsostiggul, and it was created by the god of Death Quest Domeguxuluceslo. So although the order itself was founded 79 years ago, her Necromantic lineage began 102 years ago. Mrs. Cust was the first chieftess of the Order. It seems that because the half-angel Rouku Bubaam stole Ngibedlemsostiggul and took it to Jadedburlesqued, Chieftess Cust started a war with the Caliph of the half-angels, Lord Aku Bakoum. They conquored two settlements from the half-angels, so it wasn't complete foolishness. But in the 3rd of Inbew, the half-angels managed to turn the tide and sacked the tower of Rock-nutencodes, where their seat of power was. Chieftess Cust was taken in chains and made prisoner. She fled again many years later, but by then the Order was already in other hands and she had to move to another town, in which it is said to this day she schemes to grab hold of power once more. In the ensuing chaos of the sacking of the tower, Uthathradi Memoguselesmitho, a young member of the order, became its chieftess the very next year. This position she managed to hold on to for only a year, until again the half-angels attacked and she was taken prisoner. She is still their prisoner to this day, working as a scholar for them. A much senior member of the order, Odapi Loshsiguk, then became Chieftess. And again the fighting continued, with Odapi being taken prisoner and only escaping decades later, but suffering the same fate as Cust. The next chieftain was Urdinut Erthabbagwakju, Odapi's master. He managed to hold onto power for only another year before being ousted by the Caliph. He also fled from prison years later. The next to assume power was Chieftain Facos Rathrehwewom, who was under the same master as Urdinut (master Igonadapin Opgusieb), and it was this same master Igonadapin Opgusieb who later the next year, on the 8th of Inbew, became Chieftain, after Facos was captured by Aku. Facos also escaped from prison. From then on, Chieftain Igonadapin has reigned over the Order, him being a disciple of Cust Zabanened. Although the tower has been sacked many times (in fact it has been sacked as early as last year, from what they report), the Caliph has not been able to capture the elusive Chieftain Igonadapin. I leave in this writing a copy of their lineage, as told by them. Lord Ismu decided to keep it in case more of their order appear, so that he may know who they are. This is the transcript:


"The Necromantic Order of Dideobsa was founded by Cust Zabanened, who learned it from the slate slab of Ngibedlemsostiggul, created by the god of Death Quest Domeguxuluceslo. The order branches out into two distinct Houses, from Cust's two apprentices, the House of Odukocparuhob, the older lineage, and the House of Opgusieb, the younger lineage. The younger lineage is the ruling House, being Igonadapin Opgusieb the Chieftain of Dideobsa.

Quest Domeguxuluceslo created Ngibedlemsostiggul.
From Ngibedlemsostiggul, Cust Zabanened became the first.
Cust had Ipabel Odukocparuhob and Igonadapin Opgusieb.

Ipabel ODUKOCPARUHOB had Manget Ubturoxenga.
Manget had Wuvak Elsinomuthan.
Wuvak had Quem Ungotidire, Ufol Vidilrafebbak and Othrupim Zabatokibonema.

Quem had Ujit Uquenthequosa.
Ujit had Hin Uxemarinocgoc, creator of the race known as the Eyes of Uxemarinocgoc.

Ufol had Vis Zospabreturo.
Vis had Ikasm Vedolumig.

Othrupim had Ran Oquiaspibe.

From these, Quem died on the 33rd of Inbew, struck down by a golem; Hin died on the 35th of Inbew, struck by a dragon; and Ikasm died on the 47th of Inbew, fighting three dark gnomes in the siege of Immanentsally. While killing two of them, he was slain by the last. With this, the House of Odukocparuhob has 8 living souls in total.

Igonadapin OPGUSIEB had Urdinut Erthabbagwakju and Facos Rathrehwewom.

Urdinut had Odapi Loshsiguk.
Odapi had Ohwothng Acstubtungir.
Ohwothng had Sinathistram Iddajithram.
Sinathistram had Bihom Kemithcucitlud.
Bihom had Uthathradi Memoguselesmitho.
Uthathradi had Eshmuthetuth Ospifengil.
Eshmuthetuth had Keplem Cestahebor.
Keplem had Besp Uthesatwena.

Facos had Ikudo Sushagulbikate.
Ikudo had Apista Acaconmomoojorbesta and Oxuthba Shororumethorpur.
Apista had Ogor Kilusmlerostreg, Eshe Apsuucenodolerab and Ipumash Urishimel.

Eshe had Iwarolera Gabpathadoecsu.
Iwarolera had Jelthralithi Ohudpasoncist.
Jelthralithi had Wartha Budabolimil and Dolmo Ufodasmal.
Wartha had Ipbin Ufodawumol and Sesmi Picpukidunel.

Ipbin had Nacnam Ujithaegetob.
Nacnam had Jastiga Carimielothen.

Oxuthba had Uwsho Ozithrezbomo.
Uwsho had Oquov Ceszizemeko.


From these, Bihom died on the 8th of Inbew, struck down by a bronze colossus; Eshmuthetuth died a year later, killed by a giant mosquito while hunting giant beasts; and Ipbin died on the 22nd of Inbew, slain by a dragon. In total, the House of Opgusieb has 26 living souls.

The entire Order of Dideobsa has in total 34 living souls."

Of these, Oxuthba is Uwsho's master and part of the ruling House of Opgusieb. Wartha is also from this House, but farther down the line from Cust. Mrs. Wuvak is of the House of Odukocparuhob and much senior up the line, having as master
Manget, who's master is Ipabel Cust's apprentice. Of these it seems clear that Mr. Oxuthba holds precedence, and so we are treating him as such. Lord Ismu made him responsible for the behavior of the other Necromancers of the order while in Feywreath.

Talking more with them, we have found that many of them faught in the siege of Infidelityedges, which increased manyfold the goodwill of the Feywreathians towards them. Most from their order were enslaved by the half-angels. Although many managed to escape, some are still in bondage, others are imprisoned elsewhere. Most of them seem to be free, though. Inquiring over the slab that founded the order, it seems it was stolen from the half-angels by a dark gnome named Zug Nimematistekzagoth, and to this day she has it tucked away in the hillocks of Penancemenacled. All of the Necromancers here seem to speak of the subject with anger. They feel cheated on and it seems like they will not forget this slight until they recover what was once theirs.

Besides the Necromancers, we have also received as migrants Mr. Ucstrib Vicditow (Mr. Tep's uncle) and his wife Tot Oxurfanid; Mrs. Tot's younger brother Wenilluh Thdomceste (both being cousins of the Necromancer Mr. Wartha); as well as Mmes. Ditkit Zabiiwol and Hibtu Lumoljonmuthi. Mrs. Ucsur (Chief Brewer Mr. Woloc's wife) is a niece of Mrs. Tot and a cousin of Mr. Tep! It seems many of our migrants are sending letters home with the merchants and Emissary. Their kinsmen
are all coming to the barony.

OPAL. Mr. Oxutishmana has forged all of the iron armor Sir Horun and his followers will require. His work is ver impressive, most are masterpieces!

OBSIDIAN. This year, we had 17 new migrants to the barony, one birth (our first, master Innumdonen Nilumemepado) and no deaths. With thus a total of 35 souls and counting. The report for next Hematite continues in the next year,

IN THE 49TH YEAR OF THE REIGN OF HIS IMPERIAL MAJESTY, EMPEROR INBEW OF THE HOUSE OF HURAM,

GRANITE. 18 new migrants have arrived! Lord Ismu didn't even bother to interview all of them. He just accepted them all like that! When I told him that we should check up these people and know where they come from, he just shrugged and said "We'll get the gist of it over time." He also seems pleased that the extra hands will help us finish the walls quicker. And from there, the valley below will be safe to settle.

SLATE. A new baby girl was born to Mrs. Juthimuk and Mr. Azwewtugis. Her name is Ipa Quablastriluleth. That would be the third child in the barony so far (the second one was not born here, but came as a migrant. His name is master Sinast Ojoltud, son of Mr. Lura Warlupestamsanth and Mrs. Ot Epucshsingenpa). Farmers among our people asked Lord Ismu to give them a guildhall. He agreed and decided to make that the first building in the valley.

FELSITE. A new baby girl was born to Mrs. Ucsur and her husband Mr. Woloc, our Chief Brewer. Her name is Nem Ocoosmka.

HEMATITE. The Imperial Emissary has visited us once more. She was impressed both with my report and with what she saw in our barony and has declared that in the Capital we are spoken of in good favor. "A stronghold in the middle of Goblinhome! A spear to thrust at a moment's notice at the House of Hashestrok if ever Acsutdusha grows too bold!" They have been incentivizing people to move to our lands and it seems to have been working so far. He finally declared that he had been given the authority to grant Lord Ismu the honors of Count. He accepted the title, of course. It is rather symbolic that our lands have been elevated to a country right now when we finally finished the Walls on Feywreath Hill! Sir Horun bought three books from the merchants this year, one of them being what seems like a wizard's grimoire. Much meat, drink and other foodstuff was bought, as well as many toys for the children.

MALACHITE. Another wave of migrants has arrived.

LIMESTONE. The valley's well has been innaugurated. It is fed by the same source as the castle's well. The water goes through a drainage tunnel that can be accessed through a hole dug near the well and that is separated from the water by two floodgates (one at the entrance to the hole, which we call the Dry Entrance, and another that accesses the well's mouth, which we call the Wet Entrance.) The tunnel then goes down the hill underground and comes out of it south, overlooking the valley. A wooden and roofed aqueduct protrudes from this drainage hole and ends in an opening downwards. Before the opening, there are two floodgates. One directly before the hole, making it possible to stop the water from going down; and another right beside it, making it possible to let the water fall downhill outside of the system, if needed. Going down the opening, the water goes through a deep tunnel with a floodgate at the entrance. After that, to both sides, there are carved two large reservoirs to store water, with four floodgates at each side. Going still on, you get to the well's mouth, which also has a floodgate. Beside the floodgate, before reaching the well, there's a drainage tunnel blocked by another floodgate. It leads to the mine, where we are digging for ores. The idea is that if ever needed, we can remove the water through those tunnels and spread the water thin so it may evaporate by itself. This tunnel is also accessed from the mine's entrance, bypassing the well completely. So that we do not have to drain the well to actually mine. Three guilds were formed in Feywreath, one of farmers, another of craftsmen and a third of woodworkers. Their guildhalls will be the first three buildings in the valley. Count Ismu had the meadhall expanded so that everyone from the county could comfortably fit inside it. "This hall will be the temporary dormitory of the entire village in case of a siege, it needs to be spacious enough for that", he said. It seems the Count is always thinking of invasions and sieges. He is always planning on ways to better protect his people. After the guilds are satisfied with their guildhalls, Count Ismu wishes to build barracks where Sir Horun and his men may dedicate their days training. He will also have a wizard's tower built to accomodate the Order of Dideobsa. From the blueprint he showed me, the tower will have at its lowest area a library that will be open to the public and managed by the wizards. Right over that, they'll have their laboratory where they will be free to study magic as they see fit, as long as they do not put the Feywreathians in danger. Over that floor will be their individual rooms and on the top floor the Chief Wizard's quarters. We currently have a good number of hunters that have been helping supplement the Feywreathian diet with much needed meat. We currently survive mainly by this effort and by the diligent work of our Chief Herbalist Mr. Cobsit and his team, which are responsible for foraging. Now that we have a farmer's guild and have the castle secured, it seems natural that we will soon begin developing the land for agriculture. Other facilities for the offices necessary to maintain Count Ismu's estates are also in demand, but these the good Count says can wait.

SANDSTONE. New migrants have arrived. Among them, to the general glee of all of Feywreath, Count Ismu's fourth son, Sir Secrolthur Sisharturvalcorusmal! Sir Horun is Count Ismu's second son. His eldest son lives elsewhere and for that reason is not being contemplated for the inheritance of the county. The Count promptly made Sir Secrolthur a knight and charged him with assembling a band of men and helping Horun with the defense of the county. The safety of the succession now strengthened, the Feywreathians feel more at peace. The Count also ordered iron armor and weapons to be made.

MOONSTONE. As our population is now on 74 souls, and given that the barracks are well over way, Count Ismu ordered that a census be made of all able-body men, divided into age groups, so as to prepare for the creation of the comital host. Excluded from the roster are the children, the elderly (over 60 years old), the wizards and myself. I accompanied the sons of Ismu as they took to this task. Here is the full roster:

"Roster of Able-Body Men of Feywreath.
Ethngostra Ushonulxuthu, 20, Single.
Bas Spratupusetstur, 21, Single.
Igenopo Slimenihomsa, 21, Married.
Lura Warlupestamsanth, 24, Married.
Enpatal Sathadoowbamatuk, 27, Single.
Adul Otholodetokurimbordeve, 28, Single.
Ojozom Wumolcescu, 32, Single.
Bezi Ladtemtodural, 35, Married.
Cobsit Olourwawko, 35, Single.
Felathrek Beheomsin, 41, Married.
Himel Gopugespudacarte, 49, Married.
Istsub Mumuddazomo, 54, Married.
Udmiz Repaawkixi, 56, Single.
Azwewtugis Xugoongothin, 58, Married."

When the Count saw the roster he frowned slightly. "Including my two sons, we only have 16 men available for service in a population of 74", he said before shrugging. "We'll work with what we have.".

Of the squires of Sir Horun, Mr. Tep was relieved from duty because he passed the age of 60. In his place, Mr. Ethngostra was recruited. The current followers of sir Horun are thus Messrs Azwewtugis, Cobsit, Ojozom and Ethngostra. For Sir Secrolthur, we recruited Messrs Bas, Igenopo, Lura and Adul. Besides these personal squires for the House of Ismu, the Count also made Mr. Enpatal the Sergeant of Feywreath and responsible for the recruiting of the other five able-body men into the comitatus. The forges are up day and night preparing the armor and weapons that these men will take to war. Count Ismu wants to begin training them as soon as the barracks are ready. These are being built right in the mouth of the upper Southern Gate and goes all the way up to the Northern wall.

On further news, we found out we actually have a centenarian among us, Mr. Aqui Abehrocapashim. He is 106 years old and his wife, also a resident, is 92!

Talking to these people, it seems many are refugees. It explains why so many of them are women or elderly. Emperor Inbew seems to be in all out war with the dark gnomes and so far it doesn't seem to be going in our favor. This just made Count Ismu even more resolute in preparing and equipping his soldiers. After they are all battle-ready, he told me he plans on sending them to help in the war effort. Given the copious amount of food we haev stored, as well as our fairly good defense structures, the Count does not feel threatened by the perspective of sending all his men to battle. In case of an emergency, the older men of the village can grab arms to defend it.

OPAL. The barracks were innaugurated and the men have begun combat drills. The barracks is composed of seven rooms in total. One room is to be the training room. Three of them are for the Sergeant's accommodations. Another one is to keep their equipment, another the private military chapel and the last one is space for further expansion. Count Ismu ordered the first residential house to be built in the valley. It will be the home of his son Sir Secrolthur.

OBSIDIAN. The extra space in the barracks was repurposed to serve as the base of operations for our captain of the guard. We will presently only have one person responsible for justice, without any helpers. He will be one of the elderly men of the village. Count Ismu will still choose who. He is currently just waiting for the proper equipment given to the guardsman to be made.

This year, we had 37 new migrants to the county, two births and no deaths. With thus a total of 74 souls and counting. The report for next Hematite continues in the next year,

IN THE 50TH YEAR OF THE REIGN OF HIS IMPERIAL MAJESTY, EMPEROR INBEW OF THE HOUSE OF HURAM,

GRANITE. Mr. Tep, the retired squire of Sir Huron, was chosen to be the captain of the guard, in honor of his previous  service to the House of Ismu. He was given the standard iron armor of Feywreath, but instead of an actual sword he has been given a wooden sword, so that he may punish criminals without striking a lethal blow.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.2.02: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on October 12, 2021, 04:42:05 pm

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if you want I can make up some words and send it to you in excel (or whatever format is better for you) that isn't in the files.

This could be very helpful! First, wait for me to generate a list of new words to be added to the language files, starting with the english language and symbol files. Then I/we can think about translating it. This will be the next big step (and not one that requires a HF update).

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From the blueprint he showed me, the tower will have at its lowest area a library that will be open to the public and managed by the wizards. Right over that, they'll have their laboratory where they will be free to study magic as they see fit, as long as they do not put the Feywreathians in danger. Over that floor will be their individual rooms and on the top floor the Chief Wizard's quarters.

Continuing to love this story! I'm sure those magical reactions will be TOTALLY SAFE.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Civs, Creatures, Systems, Balance (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on October 12, 2021, 04:47:03 pm

Version 1.3.00r, the Spawning Update and the Disguise Update, is live!

Anyone who loves their current 1.2.02 worlds is good to keep playing those. Almost all bugs addressed in 1.3.00 can be fixed via reaction changes already posted in this thread. Message me if you have concerns and happy playing!

This update balances the spawning of magical creatures throughout the mod, devoting significant thought to the question of "what makes a mundane biome?"

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Where savage biomes are the realm of magically-empowered creatures, and good and evil biomes host their own distinct features, mundane biomes are places that look relatively close to the locales of our own world. However, each mundane biome hosts one variant of elemental creature (such as a Water Elemental), and one intelligent humanoid creature (such as a Centaur). Additionally, mundane biomes rarely (very rarely) spawn mundane creatures that are not dinosaurs but have, in our world, already gone extinct. Each of these challenges maintains the general feeling of the vanilla biome split while hinting at the many wild things to come if one ever ventures into the savage biomes. Savage and mundane biomes are different, but both are "fun!"

The update also adds a disguise system to many tricksome creatures in highfantasy.

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Disguises build on the "information problem" already in place for diseased worgs and beak dogs and multi-caste creatures like dragons or lineages. A few brand new creatures are added, such as Mimics and Oozes, while other creatures have been better disguised.
Basically, if your units list shows something walking around that shouldn't be, check that description asap.
This is realistic - if you see a "boulder" or "tree" walking around, you're going to investigate posthaste!

In addition to the above major features, v1.3.00r introduces the following additions:

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   -feral goblins to evil biomes as an analog to the wild goblins in savage biomes and failed hybrids in good biomes.
   -wild dragonfolk, psionic humans, and naga. They are adventure playable.
   -cave potatoes from Splint plant_cavern_shrubs_ex. Like other dwarf crops, made them poisonous to humans, forcing humes to at least farm aboveground.
   -grawl (heavily edited) and spice shrooms (mostly unchanged) from Erik Blank's subterranean extras.
   -a reaction that summons the cheese creatures (spellcrafts, getting into the really wierd stuff) to magic using civs and adventurers, effectively re-adding these creatures.
   -Animalmen are no longer Large Predators, meaning they don't spawn compete and "popular" animalmen actually spawn.
   -removed non-megabeast spawn conditions for a great many semi and megabeasts
   -studying dementia magic now has a 1% chance to outright kill the scholar (fort mode only)
   -bug fixes including the frostbite bug

"Slimes of Armok: God of Splorch" is another minimod which adds slimes and slime farming to Dwarf Fortress, based on (but not limited to a direct reproduction of) Stardew Valley and other video game sources, which fill unique design spaces (renewable resources, but not for iron). They are mostly vanilla and in their own files, creature_highfantasy_slime + material_template_slime + inorganic_highfantasy_slime + reaction_highfantasy_slime & item_tool_highfantasy (which is required by the base mod).

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   -Any civ can capture and tame slimes in the second cavern layer.
   -Slimes are not trainable, but breed rapidly and birth fully formed
   -Slimes can be butchered for unique returns or for the "slime" building material.
   -Across four subspecies, there are 10 color families, 48 castes, and 114 attainable colors ranging from common to rare.
   -Slime color families inherit their colors genetically and have unique drops.
   -Slimes are milkable for (minimal) passive income, and 1 in 1111 "prismatic" slimes are milkable for candy byproducts.

By the way, I authored The New, Definitive Guide to RGB Slime Ranching in Stardew Valley (https://www.reddit.com/r/StardewValley/comments/m1hkgk/15_the_new_definitive_guide_to_rgb_slime_ranching/h0zty1f/?%24deep_link=true&correlation_id=464a47c6-3aba-41f1-96c0-d480a05a3d61&ref=email_comment_reply&ref_campaign=email_comment_reply&ref_source=email&%243p=e_as&_branch_match_id=864248996733043575) over on reddit.

Full feature list:

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1.3.00b "The Disuise Update," "The Spawn Distribution Update"
Additions: SLIMES OF ARMOK: GOD OF SPLORCH adds slimes and slime farming to Dwarf Fortress, based on (but not limited to a direct reproduction of) Stardew Valley and other video game sources, which fill unique design spaces (renewable resources, but not for iron). They are mostly vanilla and in their own files, creature_highfantasy_slime material_template_slime inorganic_highfantasy_slime reaction_highfantasy_slime and item_tool_highfantasy (which is required by the base mod), so it's basically a standalone mini-mod.
   -Any civ can capture and tame slimes in the second cavern layer.
   -Slimes are not trainable, but breed rapidly and birth fully formed
   -Slimes can be butchered for unique returns or for the "slime" building material.
   -Across four subspecies, there are 10 color families, 48 castes, and 114 attainable colors ranging from common to rare.
   -Slime color families inherit their colors genetically and have unique drops.
   -Slimes are milkable for (minimal) passive income, and 1 in 1111 "prismatic" slimes are milkable for candy byproducts.
Additions: Added feral goblins to evil biomes as an analog to the wild goblins in savage biomes and failed hybrids in good biomes.
Additions: Added wild dragonfolk and psionic humans (normal biomes, like most magical humanoids). They are adventure playable.
Additions: Added mimics and oozes underground. As expected, they fit into highfantasy's "no IP" and "disguise" systems. Read on for more disguised creatures.
Additions: Added more naga. Naga are a fantasy creature with many interpretations; the two added types work like mountain gnomes to dark gnomes.
Additions: Ported over cave potatoes from Splint plant_cavern_shrubs_ex. Like other dwarf crops, made them poisonous to humans, forcing humes to at least farm aboveground.
Additions: Ported grawl (heavily edited) and spice shrooms (mostly unchanged) from Erik Blank's subterranean extras. As usual, cavern plants are largely not added to HF for balance reasons; skipped creatures can be easily readded per player preference.
Additions: Added a reaction that summons the cheese creatures (spellcrafts, getting into the really wierd stuff) to magic using civs and adventurers, effectively re-adding these creatures.
Creatures: Forest cats no longer hunt vermin, since you have cats for that
Creatures: Each surface biome now has only one elemental that will spawn, with frequency 10. Added missing spawn code for ice and vacuum elementals (spellcrafts).
Creatures: Beastman (spellcrafts) is now playable in adventure mode, if local; this is as close as Highfantasy lets you get to starting as a werebeast
Creatures: Iron Elementals (vanilla, underground Iron Men) are now made of, and drop, Limonite, not iron itself.
Creatures: Ice, Vacuum, and Salt elementals are no longer large_predator s, so they don't spawn-compete.
Creatures: Large and Giant honey bees (spellcrafts), crawling claws (tb_dnd), will now spawn (were missing large_roaming)
Creatures: Treefolk, Kirin will now spawn (were missing all spawning conditions)
Creatures: Enabled spawning conditions for existing silk_worm abalone triton_snail mantis_shrimp odonata; spider_golden_orb_weaver
Creatures: Restricted aboveground Rodent Men to good biomes like all their other animal kin.
Creatures: For all lowercase extinct creatures, opened up the biomes they can spawn in but turned the frequency down to 1 (except for moa, cave ____'s, some ocean creatures); also added more savage spawn biomes for moa
   Previously, these creatures were limited to Taiga/Shrubland biomes but were totally dominant there. The new system suits HF better in multiple ways.
Creatures: Animalmen are no longer LARGE_PREDATORs, meaning they do not spawn-compete with each other, and that the popular animal men will be available in more worlds (gnolls, birdfolk, etc)
Creatures: Naga: Reduced velocity of tailswipe from 500 to 200; Reduced Venom Bite attack from primary to secondary (lowering the frequency).
Creatures: Shapeshifters are now mischievous
Creatures: Centaurs and Gorgons are no longer SAVAGE (see details on humanoid spawning below)
Professions Names: subterranean animalmen all properly call wizards "wizards" rather than "alchemists" (previously only naga did this.)
Symbols: Underground elementals all have updated s. castenames and symbols to fit the "disguise" system
Symbols: Treefolk, evil Gingkos, tanglethorn bushes all have updated s. castenames and symbols to fit the "disguise" system
Symbols: Root serpents, root deer, carrot men, spider vines, craven creepers, rose budders all have updated s. castenames and/or symbols to fit the "disguise" system
Symbols: Death Trees have updated s. castenames and symbols to fit the "disguise" system. This one's a megabeast so watch out.
Symbols: Woodblights have updated s. castenames and symbols to fit the "disguise" system.
Symbols: Shapeshifters have updated s. castenames to fit the "disguise" system.
Symbols: Plant-based ZM5 cavern creatures all have updated s. castenames and symbols to fit the "disguise" system
Symbols: Plump helmet men all have updated s. castenames and symbols to fit the "disguise" system
Symbols: Psions have updated s. castenames and symbols to fit the "disguise" system
Symbols: Cactus men all have updated s. castenames and symbols to fit the "disguise" system
Symbols: Cheese creatures have updated castenames (only) to fit the "disguise" system (keep in mind these don't naturally spawn)
Names/Descriptions: Forest cat information updated to clearly be a serval (with caracal influences) rather than a Maine Coon or Norwegian Forest Cat
Names/Descriptions: Thoughtless renamed to Dreamless, since it was still unclear they come from Nightmare Weavers rather than, say, Resolve Breakers
Names/Descriptions: Lizal renamed to lizardfolk, since we now have treefolk, snakefolk, and dragonfolk; folk = "slightly more than an animal man and not related to exactly one animal."
Names/Descriptions: Scaled Drakes renamed to River Drakes
Interactions/Syndromes: added bonus syndrome/creature class "likes_vodka" to humans, matching warlord's "cheese" syndromes. (chinese vodka exists and some of it is delicious, by the way)
Interactions/Syndromes: creatures that like meat are once again immune to liking cheese, as Warlord intended; however, goblins, hobgoblins, and orcs like cheese regardless.
Interactions/Secrets: Channellers (divine secret) can now summon the storm achwurm creature.
Classes: Moldslave minions and many spellcrafts_wild creatures are now ccNATURE_ZM (functional)
Classes: aberrations and chuul are now ccPSYIMMUNE (functonal)
Classes: Added material resistances to genies and to feytouched, aasimar, tieflings, and genasi. Fixed some issues with goblin aasimar.
Materials: increased value of alexandrite from 20 to 25, because it only comes from one spot in the world, like tanzanite
Materials: a few toys can now be made out of soft mats (previously most were hard, and a few could not be made at all)
Materials: Trident material cost increased to 9, in line with other Sver melee weapons.
Reactions: as a small part to address ongoing bugs with the goldbar altar prayer, removed silver whips as a potential item recieved
Reactions: Fixed naga harpoon steel stock making (this can be fixed in older worlds by editing the STEEL STOCK reaction)
Reactions: Fixed naga unable to make harpoons ammo (this can be fixed in older worlds by filling a GENERIC_ reaction with the content of REACTION:HARPOON)
Reactions: Bladed gun reactions had output of 2 guns; fixed to 1
Reactions: Bladed guns are now created with a metal bar, not a bayonet, as a temporary stopgap for the mysteriously inoperable bayonet reaction.
   The old bayonet creation has not been changed or removed, so if it works correctly for anyone, please report this.
Reactions: Harpoons can now only be made out of steel; this was always the intended behavior.
Reactions: Moved the 4 "extra powerful" divine spells from the holy altar (lv 2 and 3) to "Study Divine Magic." These aren't edible essences, but boulders that dissolve upon creation.
Reactions: Studying dementia/shadow magic now has a 1% chance to nearly kill the user (FORT MODE ONLY), but the chance of learning the 5 spells has been doubled.
Entities: Added the naga harpoon reactions to the debug civs, which were strangely lacking.
Entities: Added minimal clothing to civs that were missing it (orc & naga).
   They and other civs have new clothing items including necklace, soutif, and culotte.
Entities: Every civ that can study magic has guaranteed access to gem cutter/gem setter professions
Entities: Removed the AMBUSHER tag from Humans and Naga. Although ambushes ramp up to sieges, it just didn't make sense for civs with seige weapons and powerful armor.
Bugs: frostbite bug was caused by no chest clothing for certain civs. With addition of necklaces and soutifs, this should be resolved.
Bugs: spellcharges no longer violently sublimate upon creation. This can be fixed in older worlds by changing output material from AETHER to AETHER_METALLIC.
Bugs: heavily reduced the weight of harpoons and AHTLATL darts (tlacochtli), and moderately reduced the velocity. The velocity is still very high, as this is a gun weapon. Need feedback on velocity of gun weapons before adjusting much further.
Bugs: debugs civs can now properly use the "hybridize" summon reactions to repopulate the world with dangerous / unique creatures.
Bugs: added spawn conditions for hybrids; they were missing
Files: added additional speech files
SPAWNING CHANGES:
removed non-megabeast spawn conditions for Khezu, philia, wyvern, loch dragon, great drake, dragon turtle, 6x calamities + Annihilator, Lamia, SpiderQueen, Primevial Vampire, Death Tree, Chimeric Hybrid
intelligent humanoids are large_roaming (so they spawn) but not large_predator (so they spawn more)
   exceptions: (vanilla semi/megabeasts) all
   exceptions: (vanilla underground) troll
   exceptions: (vanilla SAVAGE) ogre, yeti, sasquatch, harpy; siren, oni
   exceptions: (vanilla EVIL) blizzard man, ice wolf, beak dog, grimeling, foul blendec, strangler, nightwing
   applied to: (modded non-SAVAGE) Frost giant, dryad, carp man; neriad/etc, gorgon
notes: cactus man are SAVAGE in deserts. They are magical creatures.
notes: skelk are SAVAGE in any_wetland. they are large predator.
notes: skale, drakes won't show up in every relevant mundane biome because they are large predators
changes: adjusted spawns of multiple non-vanilla plants and vermin so that they only generate in biomes where there are already plants: milk bulb, tundra oats, snowwood, water bulb, balm leaf, ash bloom, spice shroom, mini dwarf, fig wasp
changes: removed natural spawns for: plump_helmet_man, cave fish, amphib man

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Every mundane biome should have at least one intelligent humanoid non-Large_predator; and drake/skale separate
Mountain   oread, dragonfolk
Glacier      frostgiant
Tundra      frostgiant
Swamp MF   drake, skale; naga
Swamp MS   drake, skale; psion
Marsh MF   drake, skale; naga
Marsh MS   drake, skale; psion
Swamp RF   drake, skale; naga
Swamp RS   drake, skale; psion
Marsh RF   drake, skale; naga
Marsh RS   drake, skale; psion
Swamp Mn   drake, skale; psion, aetherial
Taiga      dryad, frostgiant
Forest M(2)   dryad, shapeshifter
Forest R(3)   dryad
Grassland_m   centaur, shapeshifter
savanna_m   centaur
shrubland_m   centaur
Grassland_r   gorgon
savanna_r   gorgon
shrubland_r   gorgon
desert_bad   dragonfolk, aetherial
desert_rock   dragonfolk, aetherial
desert_sand   dragonfolk, naga
ocean_trop   stalker, neriad
ocean_temp   stalker, neriad
ocean_arc   stalker, neriad
pools x6   invalid!
lake fresh m   drake, skale; carpman
lake brack m   drake, skale;
lake salt  m   drake, skale; stalker
lake fresh r   drake, skale; carpman
lake brack r   drake, skale;
lake salt  r   drake, skale; stalker
river freshm   drake; nymph, carpman
river brackm   drake; nymph
river salt m   drake; nymph, stalker
river freshr   drake; nymph, carpman
river brackr   drake; nymph
river salt r   drake; nymph, stalker

One intelligent aggressor humanoid per nonmundane biome
All EVIL: feral goblins
All GOOD: failed hybrids
All SAVG: wild goblins

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

1.3.00r
Symbols: Retroactively added the hordes_goblin pets to the disguise system, by disguising their s. castenames
Symbols: For the disguise system, s. child castenames also needed to be updated
Creatures: Adjusted the population ratios and disguise features of treefolk castes
Creatures: Added "local...heroes" to rodent men
Creatures: Removed carbuncles from layer 1
Creatures: Removed large_predator from multiple ex_ creatures that are small and/or don't attack humans
Creatures: After fighting with them for ages, removed or resized many ex_ vermin that were not vermin
Creatures: Replaced many VSR and ex_ creatures' CRAZED with PRONE_TO_RAGE:; this particular effects fish/water biomes
Creatures: Feral Goblins and Failed Hybrids are now [CRAZED]
Creatures: Skales now have a pet value and are pet_exotic

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on October 20, 2021, 09:55:15 am

Future Development Roadmap for Highfantasy

As of 1.3.00, Highfantasy has hit a stable and permanent release. Future "major" releases are not planned at this time until Premium. 1.2.02 was stable enough that, to repeat, Anyone who loves their current 1.2.02 worlds is good to keep playing those. Almost all bugs addressed in 1.3.00 can be fixed via reaction changes already posted in this thread. Message me if you have concerns and happy playing!

Highfantasy is now feature-complete.
(There's one more system that may be implemented at the time of premium, but development time will not go towards it currently).
This means that anyone who starts or continues a 1.2.02 or 1.3.00 world at this time is good to keep playing all the way up until the Premium release next year.

In the leadup to the premium release, Highfantasy development will focus on the following two areas:
-improving the language files
-preparing graphical hooks

Improving the language files (Process 1)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

1. Create a list of new objects ("Oni" "Lungdragon" etc) and concepts ("Pyromancy" "Focus" "Gunpowder" etc) in HF
2. Add the list of new words to the English language files for HF, with suffixes/types as necessary
3a. Create translations of the words into the 5 non-procedural language (Human, Dwarf, Elf, Goblin, Kobold)
3b. Add translations of the words into the 5 non-procedural language files with suffixes/types as necessary
4. Categorize the new english language words into existing vanilla "word groups", so they propogate correctly ingame

Assistance may be solicited for 3a and 3b

Notes:
-Highfantasy will not add any new languages. The 6 vanilla languages (5+divine) are considered "language families" and are sufficient for the 14 civilizations as currently implemented.
-The Highfantasy language addition will be built on the Expanded word list (from Taffer and Warlord), but changes may be made to the expanded word list if requested

Preparing the graphical hooks (Process 2)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

1. Using the list of objects from Process 1, create a graphical tracker (Excel) and process flow for each necessary graphic
2a. For each object, estimate the number of needed sprites (civs; undead; growth stages; ...)
2ba. For each object, flag if it can be created as a simple palette swap or temporarily created with a placeholder palette swap
2bb.    For each planned palette swap, identify the source object and the hue of the palette swap
2bc.    For each palette swap, identify whether the palette swap is short term (more work needed later) or long term (final)
2ca. For each object that is not a palette swap, identify whether it comes from another mod that will put in graphics
2cb.    For each other mod, identify whether I will likely want to use the mod graphics or discard the mod graphics
2cc.    For each mod whose graphics will be used, contact the mod author about their plans to implement / share
3. Flag the remaining HF object graphics which will need to be created manually (for example - 10 colors of slime, lap dogs, servals)
4. Post list of remaining HF object graphics and solicit assistance in creation in line with Premium style!

Assistance may be solicited for the remaining HF object graphics (3, 4) but people may be surprised how few of them there actually are!

These processes will be done slowly over the coming months; small bugfixes may be released during this time as needed. Let's all enjoy the road to Premium!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on October 20, 2021, 04:12:14 pm

Thanks for the heads-up, I can finally post community stories feeling secure that I won't abruptly have to abandon them. :)

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on October 21, 2021, 03:40:57 pm

You and me both! I'm enjoying my own current little fortress alongside a savage river at a swamp and shrubland biome intersection, befriending the local centaurs, brewing vodka, and raising my servals/forest cats. The giant ticks have not yet noticed us, but the time for glory will someday come :)

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on October 22, 2021, 07:33:35 am

Also what's the major system planned for Premium? It's ok if you want to keep it a surprise.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: Enemy post on October 22, 2021, 09:34:26 am

Where should I go if I’m looking for dinosaurs?

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on October 22, 2021, 10:20:59 am

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Where should I go if I’m looking for dinosaurs?

Savage biomes. Wetlands, Savannas, Tropical Shrubland, Forests, there's a few in grasslands and deserts, one or two in temperate shrublands. EG Tyrannosaurs are in SAVAGE Any_forest, any_grassland, any_wetland, which is a lot of biomes, although they are large_predators so they do compete with other savage things.

If you're looking for the full suite of uppercase dinos, those have to be installed with 1 extra step from the optional files (see post 1), and then they are located in cavern layer 3 (although that location can also be disabled or moved around using the dinosaur CV).

(Adding to my list of premium changes that, I should make sure every savage biome can spawn at least one "marquis dinosaur," like I did with mundane biomes and the rare "ancient mammals", probably one predator + one prey.)

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Also what's the major system planned for Premium?

Spoiler, but for long enough out that we'll all have forgotten it,

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I'm planning a horizontal extension to the magic system to brew potions. The system would be modular and based on potion brewing in the obscure minecraft mod "Better Than Wolves" (link (http://www.sargunster.com/btw/index.php?title=Potions)). It would probably use the herbalism/plant gathering skill, with spellcrafts' magical ingredients as a starting point (balm leaf, etc). I want to include this both because it's a logical addition that works in the current setting, is fairly easy and interesting, and also frankly as an omage since most of my love and talent at video game design comes from studying and listening to Flowerchild, the creator of BTW

As a fluff inclusion with this system, unrelated, I would also introduce a couple of "magical being alcohols", of the type that you might find in a DnD campaign tavern. Dragon's Tongue, SlimeShine, and the like. Nothing special, just slightly magical booze with a kick.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on October 22, 2021, 10:44:33 am

Sounds cool, procgen myth & magic will also be huge for the Highfantasy magic system I imagine (as if I didn't already have enough reasons to look forward to it :P).

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on October 22, 2021, 11:09:01 am

Myth&Magic will be very cool for Highfantasy; I'm excited to rebuild/redesign around it.

But Premium is gonna be sooo important, because Premium makes it so easy to build aboveground, which really helps playing most of HF's civilizations. Building aboveground is obviously totally possible in the current release of DF but it takes some getting used to!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: Enemy post on October 22, 2021, 11:15:18 am

Thanks for the answer!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: VABritto on October 22, 2021, 11:16:47 am

Quote from: kiiranaux on October 22, 2021, 11:09:01 am

Myth&Magic will be very cool for Highfantasy; I'm excited to rebuild/redesign around it.

But Premium is gonna be sooo important, because Premium makes it so easy to build aboveground, which really helps playing most of HF's civilizations. Building aboveground is obviously totally possible in the current release of DF but it takes some getting used to!

How will premium do so? I didn't see that update

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on October 22, 2021, 01:10:33 pm

Just the ability to mouse click and drag to place things like walls in a hollow or filled square. I might be misremembering, but I thought I saw Zach do this in some gameplay vids a while back. We certainly have seen him do it with digging, so it stands to reason the same click and drag would apply to walls and floors.

Currently, to build an outdoor house in this or any mod that uses aboveground building (or building aboveground as dwarves in vanilla), you have to 1. build each wall, which is 5 actions because the last wall needs a space for a door. 2. build a ramp to the side of the wall. 3. build floors above each of the 5 wall segments. 4. build floors in the airspace above the interior. Only then can you place furniture inside the house. It's tedious, and realistic, but would be a lot faster with click and drag.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on October 26, 2021, 12:42:50 pm

Note regarding slime:

So, fun fact, slimes in this mod use a form of inheritance code that I havn't actually seen in dwarf fortress before - a combination of the caste and color inheritance systems used by other creatures. I originally wrote this code so that "black panther" leopards and other big cats would actually display the name black panther if they were of the correct coloration.

Anyway, as of some additional testing today, I'm pleased to say that the nested color inheritance works correctly! Let's say you have a green slime, whose specific green color is dark olive, and that slime mates, having one or more offspring. If the offspring fall into the green color family, they are more likely, but not guaranteed, to be dark olive than another green color. In other words, working as intended! Hopefully one of more of us finds this system interesting. You're free to go out there and "collect them all"!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: Sanguis on October 28, 2021, 02:30:54 am

Hi! What is magestaff used for? The item you can craft in spellcrafs.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on October 30, 2021, 03:40:08 pm

Hey there Sanguis,

The magestaff is super useful! It's a weapon but the weapon skill is "alchemy" (wizard skill). In other words, you can use it to "turn on" the wizard skill even if you don't have any dwarves with that labor enabled. And, it can train alchemy for better wizards.

To use it you'll have to craft some spellcharges, which use gems as an ingredient!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on November 14, 2021, 08:24:42 pm

Hello all,

I've added a link on the homepage to a development version of Highfantasy. The dev version will always contain the newest balance tweaks and adjustments, while saving me from posting new updates except when there are major bugs to address or content additions that warrant a new release. So anytime you're ready to start a new save file, it's worth checking out.

There continue to be no major bugs or features to fix and 1.3.00r is a great time - I'm enjoying my own little aboveground fortress for the past couple weeks. Cheers!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: Paranatural on November 17, 2021, 04:23:26 pm

Quote from: kiiranaux on November 14, 2021, 08:24:42 pm

Hello all,

I've added a link on the homepage to a development version of Highfantasy. The dev version will always contain the newest balance tweaks and adjustments, while saving me from posting new updates except when there are major bugs to address or content additions that warrant a new release. So anytime you're ready to start a new save file, it's worth checking out.

There continue to be no major bugs or features to fix and 1.3.00r is a great time - I'm enjoying my own little aboveground fortress for the past couple weeks. Cheers!

Heya man, I like the Mod but I've had two sieges show up now with no attackers ever showing up. I can send you the save if you want.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on November 28, 2021, 05:23:20 pm

Hey Paranatural, sorry for the late reply and happy holiday if you just celebrated!
More so than the save, help me by providing the following information:
-What version of HF are you playing on? (the version of the zip file you downloaded)
-What civilization are you playing as? (Dwarves, etc)
-What civilization/s were the seigers? (Goblins, etc)
-How did you know it was a seige? Only by the "siege!" announcement? You said no attackers showed up, but did anything else show up - other NPCs, etc?

Let me know and hopefully I can get it fixed up :)

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: Ramiel. on November 30, 2021, 05:18:00 pm

Looking forward to trying this out, seems to have a lot of content from mods I usually smash together for personal use.

Regarding the tile display changes - I've seen these changes before, but I don't remember where.  I think it was in one of Splint's old works, but I'm not sure, and even if so I don't think it originated there.  Either way, while a lot of people don't seem to mind too much I personally find it literally unplayable (not an exaggeration, I've tried and I just can't stand it for more than a few minutes).  So I took a few minutes and reverted all the tile changes for soil/rock/etc.  Uploaded to dffd in case anyone else wants it as well.
https://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=15759

Files edited are inorganic_stone_layer, inorganic_stone_mineral, inorganic_stone_soil, inorganic_stone_gem, inorganic_other
Note that the only mod changes in inorganic_stone_soil and inorganic_other were the tile display changes.  I included the files, but they're just copies from the base game.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on December 02, 2021, 10:42:59 am

Thanks Ramiel. Did you preserve the other changes in those files? Off the top of my head, I think there are mineral value changes and things that work with the poison-ore-disaster system used in those files.
If so, I'll add these to the "optional files" within HF to make sure others can always use them.

Cheers

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: Ramiel. on December 02, 2021, 02:56:27 pm

Absolutely.  As I said, the two I mentioned were identical to the vanilla files aside from the tile changes.  The other three had lots of little changes - nosiest were actually all the material changes in the gem file, I assume to allow stone/gem weapons.  Anyways, I mostly just copied the tile numbers from vanilla files over to the modded ones, so nothing should be altered modwise.  Notepad++'s Compare plugin is such a godsend.

And I'm enjoying the mod so far.  First fort was an absolute failure; overcame several challenges with river drakes at spawn torching everything and part of the map turning out to be reanimating.  But at some point my Shoveldon who'd been protecting us decided to just stop fighting and watch from the sideline as foul blendec corpses tore everyone apart.  Had no problems trampling newly-risen citizen corpses, but left the blendecs alone.  Tried to reclaim, but the Shoveldon had himself risen from the grave, so that quickly proved to be a terrible idea.  Ah well, on to the next outpost!
Part of me kinda wants to gen a new world, but the dwarves in this one have tamed Giant Bison, and that's just too cool to give up.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on December 07, 2021, 11:41:01 am

Great work on the changes. I'll get that into the next dev version as noted (Edit: it's done). I know a lot of folks wanted this, haha.

That fort sounds like a beautiful disaster. And wow, you actually got foul blendecs! That means all these spawning distribution changes are finally paying off. Meanwhile, the fort I've been running since November 1 is at a standstill with a bunch of regular, vanilla intelligent undead lietenants. I've been save scumming like a dirty cheater trying to see if it's recoverable, but I'm pretty sure they've got me good and beat! But my beautiful fort layout D:
Your dwarves taming giant bison is indeed pretty heckin cool. It sounds like that shoveldon decided it was not being paid enough. "I've had it with these heckin drakes in this heckin floodplain!"

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on December 21, 2021, 06:33:00 pm

Update: there's been another "light" (yet hundreds of hours of work?) "non-essential" release over on the development version downloads, bringing us up to development version v1.3.14d.

The features here continue to be high-labor, low-player-impact, but I want to knock them out before premium and before another main 1.4.00 release. There are only two such features left!: DIFFICULTY (which impacts adventure mode) and NATURAL+ (which impacts age names). Truly low reward, yet they have to be done. Then finally I can move onto indexing language files.

Current Development version: v1.3.14d    includes the following existing development branch features:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

-cleans up the reaction shortcuts at the crafting workshop!!!  (ALL 1.3.XX saves can use this. See included standalone download.)
-balances creature spawning in evil and savage biomes, and for dinosaurs which are now rarer. (Extinct, intelligent, and elemental creatures, and mundane biomes, were covered in 1.3.0.)
-balances plant spawning to reflect vanilla
-adds difficulties to growing plants outdoors, to make the system non-trivial
-adds a few more dinosaur types
-adds SPL's waterlogged creatures
-adds support for Squamous/Kruggsmash autumn kingdom creatures (light version)

and adds the following additional new development version features:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

-imports Ramiel.'s fixes to stone and soil tiles, finally restoring them to vanilla!@@
-at great personal cost X_X, cleans up and standardizes descriptions of all animals, animal men, and giants. Now only animal men have gender dimorphic descriptions.

-adds support for ZM5's Mythological Creatures minimod: 2 megabeasts, 1 semimega, 1 demon, 2 savage predators, 2 humanoids, 2 evil, 1 good creature
--the abilities of two more mythological creatures - Cait Sidhe and Furies/Erinys - were rolled into Strangelings and Nightwings, making the latter much more deadly.
-adds a forest plant "glowing nettle" that creates an extract called goblinbane.
-adds 3 new prehistoric trees and the "dinosaur food chains" system
-removed a feature where Modest Mod allowed large fish to be pets, which created various problems

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: Chbost on December 26, 2021, 12:29:13 pm

Hello again!

Long time since i wrote anything here, have been playing as the Naga civilization again. I have noticed two oddities.

First the value of the components to build Airguns seem off in some instances, for example a steel stock´s value is 30 whilst one steel matchlock was about 4500 (both normal quality). The problem begins when you have a good metalsmith or whoever it is that forges them, in that if you produce good quality or masterwork  items the value increase becomes very high, and since the reaction produces about 3 matchlocks of steel it leads to very large sieges with only having produces and later assembled 3-5 airguns.

(masterworks value is 12x leading the value for one matchlock to be 54 000)

The airguns themselves when assembled are of "normal value".

Another is with the attach bayonett to airgun/spring-gun. It takes the bar and the gun as it should and then when the reaction fires, the ingredients vanish. I have tried this multiple times and with different bars. Unclear to why the reaction would cause a problem?


A fun note though is that in my first migrant wave i got a Naga Necromancer capable of raising intelligent undead, so I have constructed a grand resurrection chamber. where all dead civmembers are laid to rest then locking them in with the necromancer and a captured gnome leading to the resurrection of the civ members as "Pale Slayers" with the ability to cause nausea and vomit, actually managed to kill a megabeast that came using only the intelligent undead, since it made the flying megabeast so nauseus and sick (when all 15 gestures) that it dropped to the ground which allowed them to bash it when it could not parry the attacks.


So now the undying Naga empire rises again from "Sunkenwell The Ivory Vault" :D
 

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on December 27, 2021, 01:20:34 pm

Hey Chbost,

1. Thanks for the comments about the value of components, this was described well. I'll try to tweak the values a little bit, and probably by reducing the output quantity of matchlocks - best we can do, and encouraging you to use each one. However generating large sieges based off forging guns is not entirely unreasonable!

2. Those bladed weapons stump the heck out of me. And it sounds like you're using the new reaction that takes bars rather than the older "bayonets." In which case maybe it is a problem with the output. I will investigate again, but I've had little luck with this so far, I'm afraid. N.B. Have you tried taking the output of the bladed reactions and giving it to yourself for free using a no-reagent reaction? I should test that myself, but in the meantime, I'm curious if that would give you a bladed gun or also vanish. And you deserve it anyway!

I love your story of the naga necromancer. It's particularly apt since I've long been inspired by the idea in the Guild Wars franchise that naga (Krait) are so fiercely xenophobic that they would rather work with their own undead than with other races. Very cool!

I wonder, given your production, if you will become the first player to experience the "final boss" of Highfantasy...

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: Chbost on December 29, 2021, 09:04:42 pm

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bladed weapons

I have been testing alot of things in the raws to try and see what happends, force material steel = no gun, remove bar = no gun, the name is correct as an item and I do not see any problem. Yet one thing i noticed is that all other "active" reactions appears to have 3 more lines below them such as

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[REACTION:PISTOL_BLADED]   
   [NAME:fix blade to pistol]
   [BUILDING:WORK_BENCH:CUSTOM_P]
   (REAGENT:blade:1:TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_BAYONET:METAL:NONE) temporarily removed due to inoperable bayonet tool
   [REAGENT:metal:150:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:NONE]
   [REAGENT:gun:1:WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_PISTOL:METAL:NONE]
   [PRODUCT:100:2:WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_PISTOL_BLADED:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:gun]
   [SKILL:FORGE_WEAPON]
   [CATEGORY:BAYONET]
   [CATEGORY_NAME:fix bayonets]
   [CATEGORY_DESCRIPTION:Affix a bayonet to a compatible weapon.]
   [CATEGORY_KEY:CUSTOM_Y]

These three last pieces are only on those weapons i believe are available ingame for certain races but not all, but are not on the airgun bayonet reaction along with many other reactions I do not believe are being used. Might have nothing to do with why it does not work or not, I have not taken my masters in "raw wizardry" yet xD

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[REACTION:AIRGUN_BAYONET]   
   [NAME:fix blade to spring-gun]
   [BUILDING:WORK_BENCH:CUSTOM_S]
   (REAGENT:blade:1:TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_BAYONET:METAL:NONE) temporarily removed due to inoperable bayonet tool
   [REAGENT:metal:150:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:NONE]
   [REAGENT:gun:1:WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AIRGUN:METAL:NONE]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AIRGUN_BAYONET:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:gun]
   [SKILL:FORGE_WEAPON]
   [CATEGORY:BAYONET]

What is even more peculiar is that when you are in a workshop you can view the "products" of the reaction. There is no product viewable ingame if I try to run the reaction.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(https://i.imgur.com/MAO4ic9.png)

I have no idea what is causing this, it is not at all game breaking my harpooners are still going very strong even without bayonets.

I have also read up about the Krait and it has inspired me to make a large obelisk like tower in the middle of my above ground fort, I have also started raiding the Orcs in order to capture their siege engines (raiding for pets :D) which I can then war train and use myself which is really fun (I have 37 war trained plague onagers all standing by in my "pasture" of pillboxes made out of fortifications and traps).

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"final boss"

I have now ramped up my production of trade trinkets and crafts from the less usable bars I get from "salvage jetsam", so with any luck I will have my legions of pale slayers ready to defeat this unknown horror :)

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on December 30, 2021, 02:32:47 pm

Chbost, Thanks for your input! It's definitely a problem with the output, them. I'll continue to investigate, although this is -not- fixed in the below.
Also quite like what you're doing with your naga base. What could be cooler than capturing seige weapons and turning them back against the world? Regarding the "final boss", here's the attack trigger: 1 million exported wealth OR 10 million created wealth (no population trigger) and I can confirm they are actively spawning ~1 in pretty much every world I've generated since 1.3.00, although you may have to cut through "lesser" bosses to get to it.

Here's another development version, taking us closer to 1.4.00. DIFFICULTY was knocked out, so happy adventuring! NATURAL+ remains, along with some odds and ends.
This time I have a request. 1.3.15d introduces FEATURE_BEASTs, which work like forgotten beasts. I'm pretty sure they are coded correctly, but I havn't had the time to ensure they are spawning. If anyone has time to generate some worlds, pierce the caverns, produce some output, and get some megabeast attacks, let me know if any of the newly FEATUREd beasts appear instead of Forgotten Beasts alone. To aid in getting there quickly, I've left in the debug reaction "print money" at the mason (skill:smelting); this can be removed at any time in any save file.

Current Development version: v1.3.15d    includes the following existing development branch features:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

-cleans up the reaction shortcuts at the crafting workshop!!!  (ALL 1.3.XX saves can use this. See included standalone download.)
-balances creature spawning in evil and savage biomes, and for dinosaurs which are now rarer. (Extinct, intelligent, and elemental creatures, and mundane biomes, were covered in 1.3.0.)
-balances plant spawning to reflect vanilla
-adds difficulties to growing plants outdoors, to make the system non-trivial
-adds a few more dinosaur types
-adds SPL's waterlogged creatures
-adds support for Squamous/Kruggsmash autumn kingdom creatures (light version)
-imports Ramiel.'s fixes to stone and soil tiles, finally restoring them to vanilla!@@
-at great personal cost X_X, cleans up and standardizes descriptions of all animals, animal men, and giants. Now only animal men have gender dimorphic descriptions.
-adds support for ZM5's Mythological Creatures minimod: 1 megabeast, 1 semimega, 1 feature_beast, 1 demon, 2 savage predators, 2 humanoids, 2 evil, 1 good creature
--the abilities of three more mythological creatures - Cait Sidhe, Furies/Erinys, Sirens - were rolled into Strangelings, Nightwings, Sirens, making each one more deadly.
-adds a forest plant "glowing nettle" that creates an extract called goblinbane.
-adds 3 new prehistoric trees and the "dinosaur food chains" system
-removed a feature where Modest Mod allowed large fish to be pets, which created various problems

and adds the following additional new development version features:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

-a couple beasts now spawn as a FEATURE_BEAST (caverns) rather than a megabeast (surface) including: Balor, Marilith, Kampe, Spider Queen, Hollow/Amalgated/Dessicated One
-adds standardized DIFFICULTYs (adventure mode exp) for all relevant creatures across the whole mod
-fixes spawning for some interesting creatures that were previously bugged - firenewts, tentacle demons, aberrations/aboleth, and visitors
-revisits spawning, naming, symbols, and more for demons across the mod

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: Chbost on January 06, 2022, 04:56:26 pm

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wealth requirement

Soon I should be able to get the final boss :D

Possible Bug Report:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I have noticed another oddity, in the Wizard Workshop, when running the learn basic magic one or more products seem to be causing issues. If you remember the spellshard bug when spellshards was not "solid" but rather exploded the workshop, something similar appears to be happening from time to time as the workshop burns down if the table is made out of wood, making it out of stone prevents the melting. Also sometimes the game crashes running that reaction leading me to believe a minumum of two outputs seem to cause this varied behaviour, it produces runestones as it should so it is probably not that output. Hard to check the magic "knowledge" parts.

Some reflections in general playing the naga´s include:

Raiding is a must since they are carniverous and does not have any "food" pets, they also do not have any seeds (starting pick), so foraging for "drink" fruit/plants is important, since the seaweed is not enough to make drink to prevent "unhappy thoughts". The raiding for pets is also very important since it allows the player to actually "breed" various pets, I for example have alot of these flying bug-things that the Orc´s have, and I am currently breeding them in order to have a steady supply of food, since only fishing and hunting can be very difficult once the site population reaches 150+.

Very strong fighters and large squads make raiding quite viable, also quite easy to make them realy good as fighters due to their high observation skill :
Quote taken from DFWiki regarding observation.

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In combat, the observer skill is used to note and anticipate the attacks of enemies. Skilled observers are less likely to be surprised by an opponent's charge, for instance, and less likely to receive a penalty for being attacked from the side. Higher skill levels give the observer more information, such as which arm the opponent is using for its next attack.

This combined with the tail (Can use tail for both attacking "Swipe" and grasping) makes them very lethal since the enemy does not get a hit on them, since they know where to effectively parry or dodge even against multiple opponents, fun note is that I had a Naga that had lost both his arms, and he was still one of my best fighters, using his sword grasped by the tail, I think his kill count went up to about 20-30 although most of these were gnomes and goblins.
One difficulty arising from the tail, is the unability to jump/effectively climb, I have had many nagas stuck on the ground aggroed on a climber that was 2-3 z-levels above them with no ability whatsoever to reach them.

Also they do not have cave adaption (Please do not change this) which is great since it allows for building combined above/below ground bases whilst also offering the ability of rapid attacks with underground nagas to the siegers above without the nausea and profuse vomiting.

Some difficulties with the Naga´s is the lack of friends, every race is hostile and you really need a friendly caravan (your yearly civ caravan), had a siege once that lasted about 1/1,5 years I believe, leading my entire fort to starve (lost about 20% of my civ members (large fort) to famine) since the caravan is so important. This also means that everyone will raid and attack you. Which is fun but can quickly lead into "FUN" when they start piling up the sieges and ambushes, for example had both Hobgoblins/Orcs/Elves all coming and fighting in a massive battle outside my fort.

All in all a very fun race to play around with very suitable for an "offensive" non turtling playstyle, since sieges must be dealt with in order to gain the caravan and be able to hunt, unless one breaches the caverns and can live of the "meat" wandering around there ;)

Anyway keep up the good work! :D

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on January 22, 2022, 07:09:07 pm

Thanks all for the input. I have possibly identified a fix to the bayonetted weapon system.

This should be the last development version on 1.3.X. I'm all set for 1.4.00 with the exception of figuring out whether and how well the new FEATURE_BEASTs are working as forgotten beast supplements. That's the Balor/Marilith, Spider Queen, Gaoler Demon, and 3 dementia bosses. I'm continuing to make dummy forts to test this - any help and continued feedback is appreciated!

Here's another development version, taking us closer to 1.4.00. NATURAL+ is done, so that's it, all that's left on my log is moving into the language files (identifying words for new things like Balor and Mythril) and then into spriting for premium.

Current Development version: v1.3.16d    includes the following existing development branch features:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

-cleans up the reaction shortcuts at the crafting workshop!!!  (ALL 1.3.XX saves can use this. See included standalone download.)
-balances creature spawning in evil and savage biomes, and for dinosaurs which are now rarer. (Extinct, intelligent, and elemental creatures, and mundane biomes, were covered in 1.3.0.)
-balances plant spawning to reflect vanilla
-adds difficulties to growing plants outdoors, to make the system non-trivial
-adds a few more dinosaur types
-adds SPL's waterlogged creatures
-adds support for Squamous/Kruggsmash autumn kingdom creatures (light version)
-imports Ramiel.'s fixes to stone and soil tiles, finally restoring them to vanilla!@@
-at great personal cost X_X, cleans up and standardizes descriptions of all animals, animal men, and giants. Now only animal men have gender dimorphic descriptions.
-adds support for ZM5's Mythological Creatures minimod: 1 megabeast, 1 semimega, 1 feature_beast, 1 demon, 2 savage predators, 2 humanoids, 2 evil, 1 good creature
--the abilities of three more mythological creatures - Cait Sidhe, Furies/Erinys, Sirens - were rolled into Strangelings, Nightwings, Sirens, making each one more deadly.
-adds a forest plant "glowing nettle" that creates an extract called goblinbane.
-adds 3 new prehistoric trees and the "dinosaur food chains" system
-removed a feature where Modest Mod allowed large fish to be pets, which created various problems
-a couple beasts now spawn as a FEATURE_BEAST (caverns) rather than a megabeast (surface) including: Balor, Marilith, Kampe, Spider Queen, Hollow/Amalgated/Dessicated One
-adds standardized DIFFICULTYs (adventure mode exp) for all relevant creatures across the whole mod
-fixes spawning for some interesting creatures that were previously bugged - firenewts, tentacle demons, aberrations/aboleth, and visitors
-revisits spawning, naming, symbols, and more for demons across the mod

and adds the following additional new development version features, which are now mostly deep under the hood:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

-adds an Adrenaline system for most humanoids
-adds some flavor variation to cooking
-adds Ley Feeders, a new creature
-bugfix to the long-broken creation of bayonetted weapons
-continues to edit the implementation of FEATURE_BEASTs
-reviews creatures for whether they are NATURAL, SUPERNATURAL, and so on, mostly under the hood.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: CrashyMcGee on January 23, 2022, 01:07:10 am

Red scaled dragonborn seem to immediately combust and melt.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on January 24, 2022, 01:55:13 pm

Thanks, fixed for 1.4.00. Just add the following under [SELECT_CASTE:ALL]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

-SI-   [SELECT_MATERIAL:ALL]      Copied from Great Drakes (vanilla) to hopefully stop immediate melting
      [COLDDAM_POINT:NONE]
      [HEATDAM_POINT:NONE]
      [IGNITE_POINT:NONE]
      [IF_EXISTS_SET_MELTING_POINT:55000]
      [IF_EXISTS_SET_BOILING_POINT:57000]
      [SPEC_HEAT:30000]

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.3.00: Spawns and Disguises (Major!!)
Post by: TheLastVegan on January 24, 2022, 03:54:52 pm

Wonderful!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: All Under the Sun (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on January 24, 2022, 10:59:05 pm

Version 1.4.00r, Under the Spawning Sun, is live!

Anyone who loves their current 1.2.02-1.3.00 worlds is good to keep playing those. Almost all bugs addressed in 1.3.00 and 1.4.00 can be fixed via reaction changes already posted in this thread. Message me if you have concerns and happy playing!

This update balances spawning and other systems even further throughout the mod, devoting significant time to far flung play systems to encourage maximum cohesion. The OP post 3 has been updated with a wealth of new how-to information.

The current development version has been replaced with a file containing "updated reactions" which provide bugfixes for save files from 1.3.00. These reaction files can be dropped into your save folder at any time without generating a new world.

The full feature list is too long to post, but is included in the full Highfantasy Readme. It covers the prior 17 development versions.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

v1.4.00r; "Under the Spawning Sun"
Additions: adds a few more dinosaur types
Additions: adds SPL's waterlogged creatures
Additions: adds support for Squamous/Kruggsmash autumn kingdom creatures (light version)
Additions: adds support for ZM5's Mythological Creatures minimod: 1 megabeast, 1 semimega, 1 feature_beast, 1 demon, 2 savage predators, 2 humanoids, 2 evil, 1 good creature
Additions: adds a forest plant "glowing nettle" that creates an extract called goblinbane.
Additions: adds 3 new prehistoric trees and the "dinosaur food chains" system
Additions: adds some flavor variation to cooking (thanks Splint for inspiration)
Additions: adds Ley Feeders, a new creature
Spawning: balances creature spawning in evil and savage biomes, and for dinosaurs which are now rarer. (Extinct, intelligent, and elemental creatures, and mundane biomes, were covered in 1.3.0.)
Spawning: balances plant spawning to reflect vanilla
Spawning: a couple beasts now spawn as a FEATURE_BEAST (caverns) rather than a megabeast (surface) including: Balor, Marilith, Kampe, Spider Queen, Hollow/Amalgated/Dessicated One
Spawning: fixes spawning for some interesting creatures that were previously bugged - firenewts, tentacle demons, aberrations/aboleth, and visitors
Creatures: Human, Hobgoblins, Halflings, and Half-Angels are now TRAPAVOID, making each one quite a bit more challenging during invasions
Creatures: revisits spawning, naming, symbols, and more for demons across the mod
Interactions: adds an Adrenaline system for most humanoids
Interactions: the abilities of three more mythological creatures - Cait Sidhe, Furies/Erinys, Sirens - were rolled into Strangelings, Nightwings, Sirens, making each one more deadly.
Names/Descriptions: at great personal cost X_X, cleans up and standardizes descriptions of all animals, animal men, and giants. Now only animal men have gender dimorphic descriptions.
Reactions: cleans up the reaction shortcuts at the crafting workshop
Entities: adds difficulties to growing plants outdoors, to make the system non-trivial
Entities: removed a feature where Modest Mod allowed large fish to be pets, which created various problems
Adventure Mode: adds standardized DIFFICULTYs (adventure mode exp) for all relevant creatures across the whole mod
WorldGen: reviews creatures for whether they are NATURAL, SUPERNATURAL, and so on, mostly under the hood.
Debug: bugfix to the long-broken creation of bayonetted weapons
Debug: finishes the implementation of FEATURE_BEASTs
Debug: imports Ramiel.'s fixes to stone and soil tiles, finally restoring them to vanilla!@@

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on January 25, 2022, 10:38:29 am

Apologies to anyone who attempted to download last night; I had not clicked *submit* on the file. The version 1.4.00 is now live for real!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: Enemy post on January 25, 2022, 12:56:02 pm

I'm curious about the dinosaur food chains. What does that mean, and should I steal it for Primal?

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on January 25, 2022, 04:11:58 pm

Hey Enemy post! We all sure do love your work. I suspect you'll have already reverse engineered this by the time you get to my comment, but just in case, here you go!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

It's the tag SPECIFIC_FOOD. I've never seen anyone do this before, but it's actually so much bigger than pandas and grazing.
For any given creature, you can list a plant or animal, and then it will never spawn that creature unless the other plant or animal is actually spawning. Just don't define any grasses (like bamboo); stick to using trees and shrubs as your plants base.
Here's the crazy part - it actually works with multiple chained creatures. You'd think for sure it would get messed up but nope, it works exactly as you intend. Check out the file creature_dep_marquisdinocopy_hf .
So, for example, I can define the tree GINKGO, then i can define the creatures TRICERATOPS and BRONTOSAURUS and list that they will only ever spawn in a biome with Ginkgos, then i can define T_REX and list that t-rex will only ever spawn in a biome with triceratops or brontosaur (its an OR function not an AND, luckily), which in means that i only ever get T-rex in biomes with Ginkgos. So this is where it gets crazy. I can assign one (or more) plants per unit of time, then map some prey to those plants, then map some predators to those prey, and voila! You now have Units of Time (Permian, Upper Permian, whatever) linked to trees which subdivide a single biome token (defined on the tree), and which correctly populate the fauna of that period. So if you have permian gingkos and cambrian ginkgos, and both have the biome TAIGA, you can now have Permian Taigas, Cambrian Taigas, and Permian + Cambrian Taigas (you cannot forbid this).

I was very unambitious with this - I defined just 3 trees, spawned each tree in ALL_TROPICAL biomes, then mapped huge periods of time to each tree. I think it was a tree each for Triassic+Early Jurassic, Middle+Late Jurassic, and Cretaceous. Add in some specific food creatures and voila. But you could go really all out with this.

The best part is, as long as you arent using grasses, the animals don't actually EAT each other, so you can map, say, Pterodactyl to Triceratops without the player having to see Pterodactyls trying to eat Triceratops, or Ginkgos, no with the risk of the creatures starving.

Last point: this is a triangle effect. Because the code works correctly, there is a tradeoff of frequency. Let's say you have Gingko, Trike, and Trex all set to frequency 50; and let's further assume that your spawns are balanced such that 50 is otherwise the "true" frequency of them considering all other creatures. Well, If the gingko is in 50% of Taigas, and the trike is in 50% of Gingko-bearing taigas, then the Trike is in 25% of Taigas. And the Trex is in 12.5% of Taigas. I get around this by having the frequencies INCREASE up the food chain - something like 60% for the plants, 80% for the prey, 100% for the predators.

Truly an under-utilized tag!

Feel free to incorporate this work in Primal either by taking the code directly or by building out the system - in your case, a single note in a relevant text file is more than enough credit to Highfantasy. Of course, I only had to set this up for ~30 dinybois; yours would be a little more comprehensive!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: SQman on January 25, 2022, 04:41:28 pm

That is interesting. I had no idea this token actually influenced population spawning. I've dismissed it as something just for pandas. It will be useful for my mods too. Thank you for bringing that up!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on January 25, 2022, 04:48:17 pm

Thanks for the vote of confidence SQ - enjoy! I'm curious to see what everyone does with it.
Also, I spent dozens of hours testing the tag FEATURE_BEAST for this release. All my findings are out on the Wiki now. Definitely encourage folks check that out.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: Splint on January 25, 2022, 04:53:43 pm

Quote from: kiiranaux on January 25, 2022, 04:11:58 pm

Hey Enemy post! We all sure do love your work. I suspect you'll have already reverse engineered this by the time you get to my comment, but just in case, here you go!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

It's the tag SPECIFIC_FOOD. I've never seen anyone do this before, but it's actually so much bigger than pandas and grazing.
For any given creature, you can list a plant or animal, and then it will never spawn that creature unless the other plant or animal is actually spawning. Just don't define any grasses (like bamboo); stick to using trees and shrubs as your plants base.
Here's the crazy part - it actually works with multiple chained creatures. You'd think for sure it would get messed up but nope, it works exactly as you intend. Check out the file creature_dep_marquisdinocopy_hf .
So, for example, I can define the tree GINKGO, then i can define the creatures TRICERATOPS and BRONTOSAURUS and list that they will only ever spawn in a biome with Ginkgos, then i can define T_REX and list that t-rex will only ever spawn in a biome with triceratops or brontosaur (its an OR function not an AND, luckily), which in means that i only ever get T-rex in biomes with Ginkgos. So this is where it gets crazy. I can assign one (or more) plants per unit of time, then map some prey to those plants, then map some predators to those prey, and voila! You now have Units of Time (Permian, Upper Permian, whatever) linked to trees which subdivide a single biome token (defined on the tree), and which correctly populate the fauna of that period. So if you have permian gingkos and cambrian ginkgos, and both have the biome TAIGA, you can now have Permian Taigas, Cambrian Taigas, and Permian + Cambrian Taigas (you cannot forbid this).

I was very unambitious with this - I defined just 3 trees, spawned each tree in ALL_TROPICAL biomes, then mapped huge periods of time to each tree. I think it was a tree each for Triassic+Early Jurassic, Middle+Late Jurassic, and Cretaceous. Add in some specific food creatures and voila. But you could go really all out with this.

The best part is, as long as you arent using grasses, the animals don't actually EAT each other, so you can map, say, Pterodactyl to Triceratops without the player having to see Pterodactyls trying to eat Triceratops, or Ginkgos, no with the risk of the creatures starving.

Last point: this is a triangle effect. Because the code works correctly, there is a tradeoff of frequency. Let's say you have Gingko, Trike, and Trex all set to frequency 50; and let's further assume that your spawns are balanced such that 50 is otherwise the "true" frequency of them considering all other creatures. Well, If the gingko is in 50% of Taigas, and the trike is in 50% of Gingko-bearing taigas, then the Trike is in 25% of Taigas. And the Trex is in 12.5% of Taigas. I get around this by having the frequencies INCREASE up the food chain - something like 60% for the plants, 80% for the prey, 100% for the predators.

Truly an under-utilized tag!

Feel free to incorporate this work in Primal either by taking the code directly or by building out the system - in your case, a single note in a relevant text file is more than enough credit to Highfantasy. Of course, I only had to set this up for ~30 dinybois; yours would be a little more comprehensive!

Now this is some interesting stuff right here.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: Sytel on February 01, 2022, 02:58:49 am

My dark gnomes are getting upset that they don't have shoes...
I don't think I can make shoes for them. I don't think they can wear them, either. But they really wish they could.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on February 02, 2022, 06:17:36 pm

Hey Sytel,

They can wear shoes and there is one reaction to conjure boots made out of aether, available at the conjuring circle, but it's decidly midgame. I've added normal shoe crafting for them for a future version.
In the meantime, if you aren't playing around with magic yet, you can use this reaction to make some boots without starting a new save file.
Just go into Data -> Save -> [your save file] -> objects -> reaction_modest_generic and replace these lines:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

find the line
[REACTION:GENERIC_1]

and add these lines below it:
   [BUILDING:CRAFTSMAN:NONE]
   [NAME:exchange stone for boots]
   [REAGENT:stone:1:BOULDER:NO_SUBTYPE:NONE:NONE][WORTHLESS_STONE_ONLY]
-SI-   [PRODUCT:85:4:SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_BOOTS:METAL:AETHER_METALLIC]
-SI-   [SKILL:TRAPPING] was ALCHEMY

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: FantasticDorf on February 02, 2022, 06:29:27 pm

PTW very glad the subterreanean beasts got in. Dinosaur tidbit is also very interesting.

Only thing i will say is that pumping up the frequency does affect the mathmatics behind the chance that they'll be used in wg, T-rexes with a 100 frequency attributed to making the realistic foodlink network will quite likely be chosen for their size (food) and multiple traits if the civ's allowed to utilize them hence why horses have the same rates as every other animal (default 50 and common_domestic to get carried around) but appear nearly 4 times as regularly for filling nearly every animal job role outside of war.

[ANIMAL] entity tokens are overrides though, so shouldn't affect the core in-game experience if carefully managed with additional steps like making their meat unpalatable.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on February 02, 2022, 10:22:01 pm

Well that finally explains to me why Troodontids were so unbelievable common before the spawning changes began in 1.3.00... (easily domesticated, forest spawning with elves, food, not threatening, big...)

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: Urist the CaveBear on February 03, 2022, 08:49:27 am

I just want to say this is my favorite DF mod and I'm so tremendously pleased by the Highfantasy project's existing length, depth, and breadth of quality; as well as your terrific continued work. You're great, and so's your mod, thanks a heap.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on February 03, 2022, 09:00:36 pm

Urist!! Thank you so much! This means so much. I know I say I'm just doing this because it's the way I want to play DF myself, but man comments like this - what a joy :)
Thanks to all the partnering mod authors (many good conversations!) and patient bug testers for helping us get this far!
I'm just buried in a hole doing language file stuff for the next month or so, so... always forward progress :)

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: Enemy post on February 13, 2022, 11:43:46 am

Oops, sorry I forgot to thank you for the information regarding food chains. That’s extremely interesting, I could finally have time-biomes without the animals being in the wrong environments. I’ll probably do that if I have free time at some point. Thanks!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: redivider on February 20, 2022, 07:07:56 pm

Holy shite, this is amazing! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on March 08, 2022, 05:33:20 pm

Thank you redivider, also nice Palindrome name :)

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: Kyuuketsuki_23 on March 21, 2022, 08:32:05 am

Just downloaded this mod. Amazing, so far!

However, I've got a question. When I play as a Shapeshifter in Adventure mode, how do I, well, shapeshift?

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on March 22, 2022, 10:02:31 pm

Hi Kyuukeysuki, welcome to Highfantasy!
I'm amused to say that it never occurred to me to actually add a shapeshifting interaction. This is mostly because I can't overcome the social networks present in adventure mode... which is most of the purpose of shapeshifting in fantasy media.

However. It should be fairly straightforward (a bit of work, but not overly complicated) to add in some temporary shapeshifting interactions to that creature for 1.5. Off the top of my head, I think shapeshifters should be able to shift into any of the 14 playable races (for a short time but with no recharge timer), and probably the other intelligent humanoids (like dragonfolk) too, althogh that's a bit more work. What else feels like it's really missing? Definitely looking at input here, although this is a ways off

Otherwise 1.5 work continues and it's almost exclusive language file stuff at the moment.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: trees on June 06, 2022, 10:27:50 pm

Just wanted to chime in to say this mod looks great! I'm coming back to the game after a long while and this has all of the things I was looking to kludge together into my personal mod already done, haha -- Sver combat, fresh coat of paint with the new beasts and civs that's stylish but meshes with the original feel, clean errorlog... I just rolled up a half-human adventurer in a town overtaken by serpentfolk and I'm stoked to see what's out there. Thanks a bunch!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: holam on June 14, 2022, 01:42:30 pm

Is it normal for undeath to be basicaly invincible ? No atack that I use on them, with my cimitar, is eable to separate or destroy there heads and so I am uneable to kill any of them 

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on June 14, 2022, 05:33:04 pm

Thanks Trees, I'm so happy you're enjoying!
I've been on a long, boring hiatus while doing some new language files (so you can name your fortress the Enmity of Spell Charges, haha), but Highfantasy is always on the mind. I'm also constantly reviewing notes from DF to think how I'll hand the port to Premium. it'll be a great time. Post your thoughts on the mod!

Holam - this is the one outstanding bug that I can't seem to resolve. Others have reported on it. Not sure what change to what caused that... I'll give it full testing priority once we're done with language updates! Or maybe it will randomly make sense to me one day like the former frostbite bug did.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: holam on June 17, 2022, 03:55:29 pm

I think that I have found the reason why it happens, It is related to the weapon expertise and the body part one decides to chop, the higher your ability with the weapon the easier it is, and the more sturdy the part is the harder it is to cut, and it is impossible to cut a body part in one swing without enough experience with one weapon, making undead basically impossible to kill, in my limited experience
the easier way that I have found is to go for the neck with a cutting attack   

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on June 21, 2022, 02:54:01 pm

Holam - thanks, that's really good info. I wonder if some changes in HF are making all body part connections more sturdy, and perhaps vanilla undeath ALSO make parts more sturdy, making this apparent.

Vanilla necromancy is hard-coded, so I can't edit that, but I might be able to make necks easier to chop off across the board, giving a reasonable and realistic way to handle these undead.

How is "going for the neck with a cutting attack" working out for you?

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Unrelated: Squirttle123 let me know via an email that the frontpage instructions were misleading on how to get that first faint yellow diamond, required for crafting a spellbook in both adventure and fort modes. I was pointing players to the wrong reaction; the correct reaction is "Create Spell Charges," which has a 1% chance of producing the desired gem. The frontpage has been updated to address this. Thanks!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: holam on June 23, 2022, 01:53:41 pm

As of now "cutting necks" has only been possible with a scimitar, also, as I have been trying different methods for killing it would appear that advancing in a combat skill has no visible effect whatsoever, which could be related to the problem, also half angels can shoot an unlimited amount of projectiles with there innate habilities, making very easy to get a legendary throwing ability. 

Edit : grammar     

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on July 17, 2022, 09:31:05 am

Thanks Holam. No progress yet on my side (Highfantasy time is being consumed with other 1.5 updates). If only scimitars work, it must have something to do with the combat equation and shear values or something like that. Sounds like I'll need to learn that in order to fix this... which is a bit of an undertaking. It'll stay at the top of the list though.

Preview: Highfantasy 1.5, which is primarily focused on increasing the language files to allow words related to HF content like "wyvern," has been expanded in scope to include the following two major feature sets:
-interactible Yokai system. Yokai are mutually exclusive with other monsters, and can only interact with the world indirectly
-eldritch eruptions. After penetrating the caverns, some common animals and creatures will begin to... morph.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: FoggyHunter on July 18, 2022, 10:58:23 pm

Hi, I've only recently downloaded this mod and so far so good, but there are a bug I wanted to report and a question I'd like some advice on.

First of all, it seems that when I try to add conditions to a work order through a workshop (so not the usual job screen management), Dwarf Fortress just hard crashes.  Here's the exact steps that lead to the crash:
  1. Go into Set Building Tasks/Preferences mode
  2. Hover over Craftdwarf's Workshop and go into its Workshop Profile
  3. Go to Work Orders and que a new order for 25 wood bolts
  4. Go to the Conditions screen of the work order and add an item condition
  5. Change Item type of Condition to Bolts
  6. Enter Change Material menu
  7. Attempt to type Wood to filter options, and it is at this point that the game either crashes or freezes.

The funny thing is, I got it to consistently happen three times after the first time it happened, but when I did it at the same time as me typing this, I needed to attempt to scroll down the list for the crash to happen, instead of just typing in the filter.  Very weird.

But that can be easily avoided by just not making item conditions through the workshop itself (I think). 

What I can't seem to avoid is my dwarves getting their lungs rotted from just smelting iron. I assume this is due to the mod as it added hazardous materials, but I've lost 5 dwarves to smelting fumes alone in under half a year.  How do I avoid this without completely killing my metal industry?

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: FantasticDorf on July 19, 2022, 08:28:56 am

Quote from: FoggyHunter on July 18, 2022, 10:58:23 pm

Hi, I've only recently downloaded this mod and so far so good, but there are a bug I wanted to report and a question I'd like some advice on.

The funny thing is, I got it to consistently happen three times after the first time it happened, but when I did it at the same time as me typing this, I needed to attempt to scroll down the list for the crash to happen, instead of just typing in the filter.  Very weird.

But that can be easily avoided by just not making item conditions through the workshop itself (I think). 

What I can't seem to avoid is my dwarves getting their lungs rotted from just smelting iron. I assume this is due to the mod as it added hazardous materials, but I've lost 5 dwarves to smelting fumes alone in under half a year.  How do I avoid this without completely killing my metal industry?

The work-manager is outside the scope of the modder (any modder, its a hardcoed system) to control, but perhaps something the mod has done has created a illegible field (though the mantis reports dispute that)

I found this  (http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=9905) &   this (http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=11515)  relevant report on mantis from two years ago, putting in the words 'Woo' causes a crash.

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About the lung rotting, i dont have much to say as a outside observer other than the severity x unit size might be too strong, since syndromes become more intense the smaller the affected creature is.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on July 24, 2022, 08:57:54 pm

Re work manager: see everything @FantasticDorf said. I believe I also encountered this on my last playthrough, and yes, you just need to avoid searching Woo in that way. It's a vanilla bug.

@FoggyHunter re black lung: 5 dwarves in under half a year is too many; I'll need to tune down the chance. I'll take a look at the syndrome intensity. I think 1 a year is the sweet spot.

That being said, I'd also like to add some counterplay for this issue. Some species should be more or less susceptible to this; dwarves should be less at risk and human more at risk. I'll make Earth genasi (lineage system dwarves) completely immune to mining syndromes in the next update, giving you a reason to be very happy when you get one. But it's not in the current version. Thanks for pointing this out.

One question - what's the primary ore of iron that you're smelting? Magnetite? Goethite? Let me know!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: Smerg_the_Dargon on September 16, 2022, 12:54:51 am

I just want to say this mod is absolutely wonderful! I love playing as things other than dwarves, and you added a wonderful amount of unique content for every new race.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: Bjorn on September 26, 2022, 08:44:36 pm

Hey there mate! (VABritto here, I had forgotten the password for my old account, Bjorn, and ended up using the VABritto account instead, but I'm the same person) I'm glad to see this mod is still running along nicely. I've been in a long hiatus from gaming in general ever since my son was born, but I intend to return to dwarf fortress soon-ish. I'm going to mod a human civ for personal fun (going to try my hand on hybrid governments), but I'm going to do it with your mod as a base because it's my favourite mod and I like playing with its features even though I want to put in more stuff lol

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: Bjorn on October 04, 2022, 07:42:39 pm

Has anyone else been having trouble with pathing? I'm using a modified version of this mod but sometimes I have to save and reload again or else my humans don't notice they can enter certain rooms and such.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on October 10, 2022, 10:05:13 am

Hey VAB! Glad to have you back. We're definitely still kicking over here.
I've never noticed pathing issues while testing / playing various civs. Post some examples so we have some documentation and I'll keep an eye out for it.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: Vanzetti on December 09, 2022, 03:43:09 pm

Hi kiiranaux,

Just wanted to say that your mod is awesome and I'm looking forward to a version for the Steam DF.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on December 11, 2022, 03:34:35 pm

Thank you Vanzetti!

Highfantasy is coming to steam! I'd like to update everyone based on the information I sent to patreon subscribers and conversations with other mod authors. Here's where we're at.

1. For the past week I've been working with people across the forums to help everyone understand how to update our mods. That has been successful.
2. I've spent time the last week updating the code for Highfantasy for the new raw format. It is STABLE AND WORKING on my pc. There's also some new content, including:
-Dark elves, dark dwarves, dark merfolk
-a plague of Eldritch Sickness
-shapeshifting
-yokai invasion and defense system.
-2500 new words added to the dictionary and appropriately coded.
3. Next step is to finalize the new code, and upload to steam without graphics. You'll be able to start save file with a lot of placeholder graphics, soon.
4. I'll start rolling out graphics for all parts of the modpack in collaboration with other mod authors. We're already talking about this, and some of the authors have moved very quickly.

See you all soon!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: Vanzetti on December 13, 2022, 03:48:04 am

Quote from: kiiranaux on December 11, 2022, 03:34:35 pm

-Dark elves, dark dwarves, dark merfolk

Are you planning to give them the "dark x" name?

I was just thinking that, keeping with the approach of your mod, it would be more interesting to have civilizations with the same name, but a different set of morals? This was a player could suddenly get a goblin caravan, and discover that these goblins are more enlightened than the regular ones. Or get a "vile force of darkness" composed of dwarfs.

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: kiiranaux on December 15, 2022, 03:36:04 pm

Vanzetti - I've been going back and forth on that. I agree with those thoughts, which is why they definitely won't be called things like "drow", "snirfneblin", etc. I do think they aren't "disguised" creatures, because they look considerably different than their equivalents. I was very close to using "deep" ie "deep dwarves", but I stuck with "dark" since vanilla already has mountain gnomes x dark gnomes. Re "vile force of dwarf darkness," I'd like them to join up with goblins and the like, and am playing with the numbers to that end still.

As for goblins, those are all over HF. There's the goblin civ, rival goblins captured by the goblin civ, goblin slaves (caste) in the hobgoblin civ, feral goblins that are pretty evil, wild goblins that are just another intelligent humanoid like vanilla animal-people, and failed hybrids which are basically aquatic goblins - all of them have a completely different place/purpose in HF, and that's just the ones with goblin in the name, 6 of them. It's almost unnecessary to make a second true goblin civ.

I am noodling on whether there's a place for non-evil orcs, though - but for now they can migrate to your fortress as a dissenter the same way a goblin might in vanilla. Tbd!

Title: Re: [47.05] Highfantasy Mod/Pack 1.4.00: Under the Spawning Sun (Major!!)
Post by: Pillbo on December 15, 2022, 11:18:31 pm

I just wanted to say I'm looking forward to playing this mod on v50. This sounds exactly like what I want out of a mod and I hope there is a tileset for it soon.

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.00: The True Names of Things
Post by: kiiranaux on December 23, 2022, 02:09:54 pm

Version 1.5.00, The True Names of Things, is live!

Highfantasy is being released simultaneously on Classic and Premium.
The installation is completely standard in both modes, and is also detailed in the info.txt. In both modes, worldgen currently requires removing Vanilla Creatures, Vanilla Materials, Vanilla Bodies until more modding hooks are added.
Loading Highfantasy takes a long time. It will finish and the game will play normally.

Highfantasy Graphics are Coming.
There will be updates to highfantasy almost daily to provide graphics. Graphics should be addable without harming existing worlds. We think. We'll find out in a day or two as the first are added.

Get in touch!
If you're a spriter, and you're interested in working on graphics specific to this mod (such as Naga), please get in touch! I'd love to showcase your talent, and it will be better than the palette swaps I'll be cobbling together.

This update adds yokai, eldritch sickness, shapeshifting, dark creatures, alt civs, a massive dictionary expansion, tutorialization, and accessibility throughout the mod. The OP post 3 will be updated soon to reflect changes. The full feature list is way too long to post, but is included in the full Highfantasy Readme in the v_readme file highfantasy.zip

v1.5.00r; "The True Names of Things", new systems

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DF Update 50.01: Applied all necessary raw changes to update the HF raws to 50.01.
   For the vanilla raws, see http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=180650.0 (I wrote this guide).
   For highfantasy, a few edge cases / improvements worth noting are listed below.
Additions: Added complete Yokai Invasion mechanic and Yokai Defense progression system
      Added over 30 yokai that can stealthily infiltrate the fortress to cause mischief and harm.
         Yokai are immune to tradition damage, so they must be defeated either by crafting new "wards" or using magic (spellcrafts magic system, or, see below!)
      Added over 30 "mononoke," magical versions of common monsters, which can repel yokai. Every civ has access to at least one, mirroring their current animals
         There's a golem mononoke for the gnomes, and even an eldritch creature mononoke and a demon mononoke in the 3rd and 5th cavern layers.
      Added about 10 "onnen", intelligent humanoids that can join (or be!) adventurers for yokai protection
      Added about 10 "goriki", destructive monsters that live in savage areas and fight yokai very effectively
      Added two specific [GOOD] creatures from japanese mythology, the baku and the tengu, who also don't like yokai
      Added new semimegabeast and megabeast yokai, and semimegabeast "omamori" (guardians)
      Added a new megabeast that must be summoned by advanced spellcrafts, but can be trained to fight yokai very effectively
      Added a new final endgame-level boss creature (it's the second one total), which is yokai-adjacent
Additions: The Yokai system is built on pokemon-like code, offering the following systems:
      -Many Yokai and others can grow stronger by evolving, either during combat or when exposed to magic items in a constructable chrysalis
      -Yokai and others can be trained by feeding them plant-based drinks, or empowered by gifting them elemental lodestones
      -Yokai can be fought off (but not captured!) by throwing magical "wards"
      -Yokai are normally [TRAPAVOID][WEBIMMUNE], but can be stunned by "balms," which can be crafted
         -Stunned Yokai are rendered vulnerable to traps, and can then be trained like any other creatures
      -All of this is done without using IP-based names for the creatures, but fans of Pokemon/Yokai Watch and students of Japanese lore will be able to recognize things easily.
         -Yes, there's charmander (lizard mononoke), pikachu (mouse mononoke), and also Yuka-oni (blizzard yokai), Nekomata (mystic yokai), etc. Just look around and check descriptions
         "my favorite creature is missing!" there's an easy solution, see below.
Additions: SpellXYokai:
      Mapped Yokai powers to the existing magical elements & schools of Highfantasy
         So basically, 1 yokai type = 1 highfantasy elemental or gem name = 1 power descriptor, but the names may not be exactly the same
         Grass Type=Steam Elemental=Growth Powers=Polymorphy(1 of multiple)
         There's an image mapping this out among the readme files
         -mononoke and others' elements are granted defense based on the highfantasy elemental resistance system (but NOT vice-versa!)
      Spellcasting civs can create special yokai wards for each elemental school
      Spellcasting civs can craft a special yokai ward for handling extra-dangerous cavern yokai
      Spellcasting civs can summon a unique spirit that can develop into either a powerful guardian or a wicked yokai
      Spellcasting civs can craft a new type of basin (magic turret) that shoots balms (render yokai vulnerable to trapping)
      Killing elementals drops a masterwork elemental lodestone. It can be used as normal to empower mononoke of that element.
         Spellcasting civs can "crack" the lodestone to get the expected Aetherial Focus (if it was a surface elemental)
         All civs can "crack" the lodestone for renewable resources, like in vanilla (if it was a subterranean elemental)
      the Haywire Yokai, which infiltrates various vanilla workshops, can now also use the spellcrafts basin (magic turret) reactions. Its normal form can even knock other yokai unconscious. Perhaps it was the basins' original inspiration?
      Existing plants have reaction classes, and many (surface + depths) can be used to craft mononoke vitamins

Additions: Added eldritch sickness as another layer of difficulty to Highfantasy's endgame.
      Sickness is initially spread via the touch of the three eldritch bosses and the final boss.
      Sickness is also initially spread by ingesting the organs of any normal or boss-sized eldritch creature (not the final boss, because "defeating" the invasion)
      Infected creatures sprout horrible mutations. After 15 days, they are reduced to mumbling. After a month, they become opposed to life.
      Infected creatures can themselves spread the mutation after 15 days via touch, leading quickly to the downfall of a fort.
      Any creature that lives and drinks can become infected by the touch of another, from humans to cats to kraken.
Additions: Carbuncles are powered up and now bless creatures with aether and eldritch magic immunity, tagging the creature as "warded"
      A carbuncle nuzzle is just an indicator, and grants just one day of warding
      Carbuncle dairy products are now much more potent, granting a full month of warding
      Carbuncles still appear in cavern layer 2, before one must content with the eldritch horrors
Additions: Shapeshifters are now functional. They can shift for one hour (adv, dwfx144) into:
      Living, humanoid, bipedal, not-half creatures of their gender, including:
      Dwarf, Elf, Merfolk, Goblin, Hobgoblin, Orc, Sahuagin, Kobold, Halfling, Dark Gnome, Lizardfolk, Serpentfolk,
      Frost Giant, Naga, Dryad, Dragonfolk, Harpy, Ogre, Troll, Djinn, Satyr, Stalker, Succubus, Divine Angel, Gremlin, Yokai
Additions: Fully implemented deep dwarves, dark elves, and merrow as parallel to gnomes/dark gnomes.
      Their descriptions mirror and warp the descriptions of the surface variants.
      These creatures can spawn underground as members of the advanced layer-linked civ, and as of 50.01, these civs can attack.
      Deep dwarves and merrow, like existing dark elves, can also spawn as "second-generation" members of the good civs, though less commonly than the prior dark elf rate (1/20 -> 1/50). It just means the old charm of occasionally breeding "an evil one" is not lost. Ah, the joys of adultery!
      The surface versions of each species still occasionally spawn as "second-generation" members of the dark civ, at the half-lineage rate of 1/20.
         Normal, Dark (Caste), Dark (Creature), and Surface (Caste) all have different yet subtly connected descriptions. Taken together, the sets of 4 descriptions each form a verbal panorama.
      "Dark humans" already exist in the form of the Ungifted, who are much too powerful to allow a whole layer civ of them.
Additions: Alt Civs. Certain civilizations have a 1 in 6 chance to generate with an unusual creature instead of their standard one, but all the same behaviors
      This is a common fantasy feature that is often requested, reduces stereotyping, and diversifies worlds without adding more/samey civs. Keep in mind that each of highfantasy's civs is quite unique.
      This feature does not use or duplicate, and has nothing to do with, dark creatures. That's separate. Read above.
      A 16% chance, and 14 different civs, means you need to generate about 80 civs to reliable get all Alts. (Medium world with Very High civs, or Large with High/Very high)
      civ         other who might inhabit them      creature token (usually normal)
       dwarf       goblin "ingenieers"         GOBLIN
       goblin       dwarf "scratchlings"          DWARF
       orc          elf "renegades"            ELF
       elf          orc "druids"            ORC_BRIGHT_SI   - only used here
       hobgoblin       human "imperials"         HUMAN                     
   "The ones that scare us because they look different, they're just that - different. But the evil ones... they look just like us."

Additions: Dictionary: Restored the vanilla dictionary translations
      The expanded dictionary previously reset the entire 2100-word vanilla wordlist. This update restores the vanilla translations of all vanilla words, meaning if you look up a dwarven word from the wiki or after seeing your favorite DF streamer use it, you'll find the same translation in Highfantasy again.
      The expanded dictionary also previously removed a bizarre set of 20 vanilla words entirely, such as Beer, Boar, and King. This has been fixed.
      The 7000 new words from expanded have been maintained.
         goblins were using "i" for their new words, which they don't do in vanilla. 110 such i's have been replaced with o.
Additions: Dictionary: Added over 500 new words based on items, ideas, and concepts that appear in HF
      did not add words for all new animal people, as animal people words are generally buried in HF (see patch 1.0.0)
      unlike all other animal people, cat-,dog-,and horse-person can be used as an adjective
      1500 spaces remain for additional Highfantasy words, and some are planned.
Additions: Dictionary: Other
      Also added the nouns "familiar" and "elemental" as expanded uses of vanilla words
      Added word categories for all 500+ new Highfantasy words
      Blocked highfantasy words related to high-tech stuff from being randomly used, including:
         guns, wizardry, best metals, underworld, elementmen, dinosaurs
      Fixed vanilla dictionary entries for creatures that have their names changed in highfantasy
         (white) stork /person, (saltwater) crocodile /person, (desert) tortoise /person
         blackbird, falcon, parrot, horned owl,recluse spider, gecko,marmot, macaque,   land tortoise
         butterfly, langur,tree frog/frog, cobra, mamba
         cave crawler, lungdragon, (giant) grouper, (giant) land tortoise
      removed the space in new words like metal elemental; vanilla uses dashes in the dictionary instead

Additions: Disguises: Many disguised creatues are now mischievous, and have their disguised name removed where it was not actually effective
      eg, it's suspicious when you see a 'tree' in the unit list - something that shouldn't be there in the first place
      (the graphic/tile disguises are still intact, as they are very effective.)
      :Removed the disguised names and added the MISCHIEVOUS tag to inorganic-based, including:
         giant ooze, mimic, 7 underground elementals,
         tanglethorn, root serpent, vine spider, craven creeper, twig blight, vine blight,
         scavenger flower, man-trap, killer bloom, vine serpent
      :Removed the disguised names entirely from some intelligents and plants, including:
         treefolk, cactusfolk, plump helmet man, fungal pod, deathbloom, morbishroom
      :Changed the disguised names to be more effective for:
         walking ginkgo ("treefolk"); tree blight ("treefolk"), rose budder ("hedgehog)"
      :Did not change the disguised names for some animal-based, including:
         cheese creatures, root deer, psion, shapeshifter, pumpkins
Additions: (Via bugfix) fixed an error in the reactions that prevented the output of runestone traps
Additions: (Via bugfix) since the bladed gun recipes were fixed in 1.4.00, they now once again require actual bayonets rather than metal bars
Additions: (Via bugfix) Fixed some attack triggers for certain spellcraft and dragon semimegabeasts that were missing


Tutorials: Added tooltips to all non-vanilla buildings indicating their main purpose. The spell building maps out the main steps to get started studying magic.
Tutorials: Added position descriptions for all positions that have Manager, Broker, Bookkeeper, Medical, or Militia Commander equivalent duties, which helps with the cultural position names.
Tutorials: Dramatically improved the tutorialization of getting to that first magic study in both fort and adv modes, via multiple vectors

Accessibility: Standardized names, capitalization, and hotkeys of all mod workshops to fit vanilla norms and to not conflict. Again.
Accessibility: The above, but for reaction categories (aka workshop submenus)

Challenges: The following civilizations' creatures now actively suffer from spending too much time underground via a counter-trigger of CAVE_ADAPT (credit: df wiki)
      Humans, Elves, Merfolk, Hobgoblins, Sahuagins, Half-Angels
Challenges: Angels now have KILL ANIMAL: UNTHINKABLE. Trading them animal products will cause a diplomatic incident.
Challenges: The final boss (Annihilator) is now a feature beast (depths, not surface).
         Spawn triggers have changed in vanilla 50.00, so to avoid being invaded by this creature, keep your population below 140!
         to avoid being invaded by Balors, eldritch lietenants, and the yokai megabosses, keep your population below 110, although wealth and exports also matter.
Challenges: Spellcrafts Adv - increased the chance to scavenge a cheap gem in adventure mode to 11%, from 2%
               increased the chance when making spell charges to create a diamond to 9%, from 1%.
               increased the chance of success making free aether salts to 9% in adv, from 1%  (still 1% in fort mode)
       -All togther, this means the amount of times you have to perform a scavenge reaction to ultimately get a diamond went from 2100 to 111.
         Also increased this reaction's chance of creating aether salt from 5% to 20%
         But reduced this reaction's chance of creating spell bolts from 91% to 11%
      Spellcrafts Fort - mirrored the spell bolts reaction changes in fort mode, but as gems are more plentiful and one studio trains many wizards, the diamond chance is 4%.
         This is still an improvement from 100 gems needed to just 25 gems needed to get that first diamond.                           

Adventure: 4 yokai are availabe to play as fully equippable, speaking, learning terrors
Adventure: Added reactions for crafting wards, empowering, and evolving mononoke (no x, no healing, no seals until workshops are added)

[New] Creatures: Added dark elf primogenitors that can be selected during orc embarks to advise and guide, but not at any other time.
[New] Creatures: Added decay elementals (cavern, poisonous) and vortex elementals (surface, windy)

v1.5.00r; "The True Names of Things", changes

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(summary only)
Creatures: dwarves of the Earth Elemental lineage are now immune to all mining-based syndromes
Creatures: half-angels have been nerfed and must now wait 23000 to shoot their projectile; was 200
Creatures: serpentfolk (naga) venom has been nerfed considerably, and no longer causes paralysis
Creatures: desert naga venom is weakened essentially to nothing, and they are no longer tracker-cannibals, but recieve a potent spellcasting ability in return
Creatures: humanoid slaves are now able to reach a peak strength and toughness higher than a dwarf, giving them something to distinguish from other creatures
Creatures: frog, tortoise, turtle, and tiger men are now popular
Creatures: Mountain gnomes no longer spawn aboveground, but rather as members of the primitive layer-linked civ
Spawns: Spider creatures are now removed from layer 1, per new vanilla guidance
Materials: very slightly reduced the chance of mining-based syndromes from all appropriate activities
Entities: added native footwear to civs that were always dying of frostbite
Entities: Elven mythril picks and coins are now made at the moonforge, like all other mythril except for the initial anvil.
Names/Descriptions: various
Vanilla Bugs: The custom profession name "wizard" is currently disabled and shows up as a legendary "modskill06," for example. There is no vanilla tag to fix this right now but I'm sure there will be soon.

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.00: The True Names of Things
Post by: Urist the CaveBear on December 23, 2022, 05:11:34 pm

I'm so excited.  What a tremendous thing to wake up to.  This remains my favorite Dwarf Fortress mod, and I've been checking it's status daily since .50 came out.  I can't wait for the weekend, to really dig into it.  Thanks again for your outstanding work, Kiiranaux. 

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.00: The True Names of Things
Post by: kiiranaux on December 23, 2022, 05:24:52 pm

My pleasure Urist! As always, I've tried my best to give back to all the other mod authors by posting my learnings (and there are many) on the wiki for others to benefit from them. I think that particularly showed in the week post-launch where I was focused on identifying raw changes over in the other thread. That's why others are ahead in terms of graphics. But that will change, soon!

On a personal note, this was an incredibly huge endeavor. I've known for the past year that it would be, but wow - yesterday was the 17th straight 16-hour day spent working on this. I'm so proud the dictionary has Highfantasy entries, and I'm so pleased with what we've done with the yokai system. It's totally ready for revamped adventure mode, too!

Cheers all and may Dwarf live another 20 years!

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.00: The True Names of Things
Post by: Vanzetti on December 24, 2022, 06:56:38 am

hi kiiranaux,

Congrats on the new version!

Question: this might be beyond the scope of your work, but have you considered making the mod more modular? Just as an example, things like the yokai might be thematically off for some people. Could be nice if it was possible to turn them on/off.

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.00: The True Names of Things
Post by: jolibee on December 24, 2022, 09:25:57 am

Thank you and good work!

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.00: The True Names of Things
Post by: kiiranaux on December 24, 2022, 10:54:56 am

This post will serve as a reference for the modularity of Highfantasy. It is now linked from the front page.

First, a disclaimer: remember that many of the more "magical" features of highfantasy are restricted to savage biomes. You can have a pretty vanilla experience by playing as dwarves in a non-savage biome - all the progression systems will be there, but you won't be seeing wacky things, for the most part. Just a local elemental, a local extinct mammal, a local intelligent humanoid, and possibly drakes and skales.

--

Modularity is provided via the c_variation files.
 
-To completely remove yokai, mononoke, goriki, onnen from your world,

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

for non-mononoke, go to the file c_variation_pokevariation, and remove every instance of large_roaming, megabeast, or semimegabeast.
for mononoke, in the same file, search for [CREATURE_VARIATION:highfantasy_pokemon_civtrainable] and remove the line [CV_NEW_TAG:PET]

-To completely remove eldritch creatures, and restore vanilla cavern layer 2 (there's nothing unique there),

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

follow the instructions in c_variation_highfantasy. There are also instructions there for other things

-To completely remove dinosaurs

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

for savage dinousaurs, add the following tag to each of the last four creature variations in c_variation_highfantasy: [CV_NEW_TAG:UNDERGROUND_DEPTH:4:4]

for dinosaur men and/or weredinosaurs, you can use the same line, but their cv is c_variation_dep_hf. note that there are multiple entries for dinosaur men (different sizes) so you'll need to get all of them.

"My favorite creature is missing!" No it's not, they're all in there. Just search for it, add this at the start of its file, and call it what you want.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

-SI-   own[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:highfantasy_pokemon_favorite]
-SI-   new[DESCRIPTION:A familiar monster resembling a BLANK. It has UNKNWON behaviors or tendencies. It is highly agitated in the presence of yokai, and wishes to battle using its strange powers, but otherwise acts like a domestic creature.]
-SI-   new[NAME:BLANK mononoke:BLANK mononoke:BLANK mononoke]
-SI-   new[CASTE_NAME:BLANK mononoke:BLANK mononoke:BLANK mononoke]

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.00: The True Names of Things
Post by: Vanzetti on December 24, 2022, 03:55:14 pm

Quote from: kiiranaux on December 24, 2022, 10:54:56 am

Vanzetti: I agree! Modularity is provided via the c_variation files.
 
To completely remove yokai, goriki, onnen from your world, go to c_variation_poke, and remove every instance of large_roaming, megabeast, or semimegabeast. Ripping out the mononoke is a bit harder but I think you can do it by removing "pet" and adding "underground_depth:4:4" in the same file in the variation for civ users.

As in, remove the token "large_roaming", or the entire creature that has the token?

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.00: The True Names of Things
Post by: kiiranaux on December 24, 2022, 04:35:40 pm

In the variation file only, no need to touch the creature.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

replace each this
   [CV_NEW_TAG:LARGE_ROAMING]
with this
   CV_NEW_TAG:LARGE_ROAMING]

this
   [CV_NEW_TAG:MEGABEAST]
with this
   CV_NEW_TAG:MEGABEAST]

this
   [CV_NEW_TAG:SEMIMEGABEAST]
with this
   CV_NEW_TAG:SEMIMEGABEAST]

and this block
[CREATURE_VARIATION:highfantasy_pokemon_civtrainable]
   [CV_NEW_TAG:PETVALUE_DIVISOR:10]
   [CV_NEW_TAG:CREATURE_CLASS:POKEDOMESTIC]
   [CV_NEW_TAG:TRAINABLE_HUNTING]
   [CV_NEW_TAG:AT_PEACE_WITH_WILDLIFE]
   [CV_NEW_TAG:NATURAL]
   CV_NEW_TAG:PET] it doesn't matter, even as pet exotics the civs get them
   CV_NEW_TAG:MUNDANE] only really matters for civilized creatures

with this
[CREATURE_VARIATION:highfantasy_pokemon_civtrainable]
   [CV_NEW_TAG:UNDERGROUND_DEPTH:4:4]

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.00: The True Names of Things
Post by: Urist the CaveBear on December 24, 2022, 06:11:23 pm

So I haven't started a fortress yet, but I've been generating worlds and poking around the Embark interface.  I can confirm some reports I've seen that "Digging Implements" seem to have been replaced by various types of weapons for various civs - I'm guessing this is some sort of issue akin to raw-dupes, but I'm not an experts.   Perhaps weirder is this "Dwarven" civilization I found, the Bisexual Bastards, which is typed as Dwarven in the civilization list, and has 7 dwarves available for its embark, but it's whole domestic Animal list is distinctly Goblin.  I have no access to dwarven domestic creatures, and in fact can embark with a wide range of hunting and war-trained cavern creatures - mononoke of various stripes, Beak Dogs, slimespawn, something called a "Sustainer" (which sounds deeply Sinister), and most interestingly, "Rival Goblins".  Out of curiosity, I tried embarking as the other Dwarven civilization in this world, the Gopher Fence, and they also demonstrate the Digging Implement bug, but have a standard Dwarven domestication list.  Just some notes. 

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.00: The True Names of Things
Post by: kiiranaux on December 24, 2022, 07:14:27 pm

What you discovered was an alt-civ of "dwarven scratchlings", a 16% chance to replace a goblin civ. It's a new thing. Most likely there's a true dwarven civ around your world somewhere. Annoyingly, the creature descriptions are hidden in Unit -> Health -> Description, which is unfortunate since hf encourages the player to constantly examine descriptions to learn things such as, for example, my expedition leader had celestial lineage.

Re the digging implement bug: I just encountered that myself and it's a real problem. I don't fully understand the bug, which is vanilla caused, but there's a really obvious solution that I'm working to code now. I'll almost certainly release that, with the first graphical update, tonight EST.
Also, I need to check this, but I'd be willing to bet that using an embark profile (place the file in prefs) gets around this. hf's dwarf embark profile includes a copper pick. I'll report back once I tested this.

You should keep that world. A civ of dwarves named the Bisexual Bastards who reject dwarven standards? Are you kidding me? That's legendary. I'll confirm later that these changes (include the digging implement fix) don't require a new world.

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.00: The True Names of Things
Post by: kiiranaux on December 24, 2022, 07:50:40 pm

The new version can be downloaded which provides a workaround for this new vanilla digging implement bug. You don't need to generate a new save. Wagon wood, from deconstructing your wagon, can be used to craft a pickaxe (3 times) at the CARPENTER's workshop.

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.01: The True Names of Things
Post by: kiiranaux on December 25, 2022, 12:29:48 am

Version 1.5.01 is live. Very few changes. Best of all, this gave me the opportunity to confirm how the save-refresh feature works. It's laid out in the file, but here's a summary:

UPDATING YOUR SAVE (ALL VERSIONS): Happens automatically. When you go to load your save, a newer compatible version will be detected. Select "update" when prompted.

And here's the very brief changelog. You don't need to generate a new world.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

v1.5.01 (New save NOT required)
Vanilla Bugs: Provided a hotfix for the "digging implement bug," where using "Play Now" starts you without a pickaxe. Details are in the post right before this, and it will now install automatically.
Creatures: Gorlaks are removed from the list of "subterranean entity" spawns. They spawn wild. This is because they are nice, and the sub entities are brutal.
Creatures: Onnen spawn only in savage biomes now, UNLIKE other intelligent humanoids, and they are far rarer.
Creatures: Djinn no longer "produce heroes" (all four types of genie)
Names/Descriptions: Fixed spelling of "calamity"
Files: optional files are provided for civ 15 and civ 16. They don't spawn by default.
   Civ 15 is the half-fiends, which are identical to angels. Half-fiends naturally spawn as intelligent humanoids.
   Civ 16 is the true debug civ.

Graphics are going well. We'll release some crucial ones tomorrow.

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.01: The True Names of Things
Post by: Urist the CaveBear on December 25, 2022, 07:23:04 am

"You should keep that world. A civ of dwarves named the Bisexual Bastards who reject dwarven standards? Are you kidding me? That's legendary."

Are you kidding me?  There's no way I'm not playing them.  Working on the Embark right now. 

Very cool you were able to get the save-refresh for updates working so easily - brave new world for Dwarf Fortress modding. 
Some additional notes on the weirdness that is the Bisexual Bastards' embark screen, there appears to be no access whatsoever to drinks for the Dwarf Scratchlings.  Food is there, but no drinks of any kind.  Also, there are two separate "Beak Dogs".  Both have male and female varieties, as well as hunting and war-trained variants of both, it's like the entries are doubled up.  (After digging around in the Creatures portion of the Symbol designer during Embark, I'm wondering if these aren't Beak Dogs and "Diseased" Beak Dogs)  Finally, we can embark with "Rival Goblins" as pets - I know these are like slaves for the Naga and are an intended part of Goblin civilization, are they an intended part of the Scratchling's identity as well?

Also Also - I notice they seem to be using a different Dwarven Langauge than the one I'm used to (not just that there are more words, I know that HF adds new languages and expands existing ones), do Scratchlings speak a different language than "proper" dwarfs, or does HF randomize the vanilla dwarf tongue?

Ooooh, apparently these guys are tribal and pre-metallurgical?  I'm not... sort of makes this bronze-ore embark... err, difficult. 

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.01: The True Names of Things
Post by: kiiranaux on December 25, 2022, 10:30:05 am

Urist - everything you mentioned is an intended feature ;) Check the readmes, civilization gameplay, for goblins. Because the "alt civs" don't actually increase the total civ count past 14, they just mean that once in a while one of your 14 isn't quite... right.

My first time embarking with that civ a year ago, I failed to find a water source and all my captured rivals died. Which hampered the work efforts rather considerably.

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.01: The True Names of Things
Post by: Urist the CaveBear on December 25, 2022, 06:17:02 pm

That's all very cool - I was starting to get the impression they were goblins wearing Dwarfs as a shirt or something. 
I saw Bright Orcs during another world-gen. 

It would be nice if there was some menu nesting in some of the places where the MOD has added very large numbers of crafting options.  For instance, the Smithy, putting all of the two-handed weapons under an umbrella, all of the throwing weapons under another.  Maybe even doing it by Axe/Sword/Polearm etc. given the new plethora available. 

Update: Three Horns the Hobgoblin Outpost wiped out by Agitated Giant Badgers. 

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.01: The True Names of Things
Post by: kiiranaux on December 26, 2022, 10:07:53 am

Hah!

I wish I could. I worked really hard to get what menus I could cleaned up, and though I'm sure I've missed a few, it just so happens that you don't actually create the reactions for weapons - they are hard-coded. So the game just understands "oh this is a weapon, it should be craftable from iron (occasionally also obsidian) at XYZ workshops." Same with armor, clothing, etc.

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.01: The True Names of Things
Post by: Urist the CaveBear on December 26, 2022, 10:23:21 am

Totally understandable, and ultimately not that big a deal as long as you interact with your smithy through the Manger's Work Orders.

In other news, I've been try to use the Goblin Corpse Still to make Blood so my Hobgoblins can alloy Orichalcum; but they just keep processing mussel shells and bones into "Liquid", which I now have several barrels of.  I did manage to make a barrel of Fermented Meat, so that Reaction seems to be working the way I'd expect.

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.01: The True Names of Things
Post by: Vanzetti on December 26, 2022, 02:55:11 pm

Just to report. I tried to embark with Orcs, found out I can get Dark Elfs as pets for 1 point each, and they are being added to the citizens tab. So, that's interesting. Not sure if intended?  ;)

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.01: The True Names of Things
Post by: kiiranaux on December 26, 2022, 04:16:59 pm

Working as intended except for the point value, which I'll fix today.
Recommend reading that creature's description when you're in game.
Generally recommend reading everything's description in highfantasy. (Health -> Description. It used to be much more in your face in old DF.)

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.01: The True Names of Things
Post by: Urist the CaveBear on December 26, 2022, 07:47:53 pm

The division of Creature Descriptions into 3 or 4 separate tabs is one of my least favorite interface tweaks they've made. 

I'm setting up a Dwarven embark right now - and it looks like some of the graphics for the expanded Dwarven domestics have got mixed around.  Particularly, the Aquifer Turtles appear to be some kind of vampire bat creatures, and the sloth-bats appear to be poultry. 

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.01: The True Names of Things
Post by: kiiranaux on December 26, 2022, 09:40:34 pm

That's fixed for tomorrow - good catch. I reviewed the rest of them and they should be correct now too.

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.00: The True Names of Things
Post by: Vanzetti on December 27, 2022, 03:24:46 am

Quote from: kiiranaux on December 24, 2022, 10:54:56 am

Ripping out the mononoke is a bit harder but I think you can do it by removing "pet" and adding "underground_depth:4:4" in the same file in the variation for civ users.

Can you give an example, please?

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.00: The True Names of Things
Post by: kiiranaux on December 27, 2022, 09:43:23 am

Quote from: Vanzetti on December 27, 2022, 03:24:46 am

RE removing mononoke specifically, Can you give an example, please?

Sure. After updating you save later today with the new version,

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

In the file c_variation_pokevariation,
Find "[CREATURE_VARIATION:highfantasy_pokemon_civtrainable]",
and remove the line [CV_NEW_TAG:PET_EXOTIC]
That will cover all of them.

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.01: The True Names of Things
Post by: Vanzetti on December 27, 2022, 10:53:17 am

Hi. I tried this now, but there are still mononoke in the animal list on embark screen (they cost 3000 points).

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.01: The True Names of Things
Post by: kiiranaux on December 27, 2022, 02:07:30 pm

That's correct. The particular fix I just listed won't work until the version to be released later today, which will also fully fix pickaxe wierdness.

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.05: The True Names of Things
Post by: kiiranaux on December 27, 2022, 11:08:52 pm

Version 1.5.05 is live on DFFD and Steam!
This version fixes a number of major bugs caused by sneaky code changes. A new world is not required. The bugs include:
-serpentfolk not wearing pants (they now wear tunics and robes to cover their zero-legged selves)
-wagons showing up empty for multiple civs (their pack_animals now have CAPACITY even without a wagon, since wagons come later now)
-inability to select pickaxes during embark screens, and scrambled weapons during the embark screen (for existing worlds, you'll still need to search for and add a pickaxe or tunneler during embark, but you can properly do that now)
-issues with plant gathering

I've shared the learning from these wierd new vanilla edge cases on the modding sections of these forums.

@Vanzetti, the solution mentioned earlier should now work to remove mononoke (removing "PET")
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=178840.msg8438809#msg8438809

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.05: The True Names of Things
Post by: Vanzetti on December 29, 2022, 12:24:47 pm

Thanks!
Another question: will it ruin anything if I remove the extended language words? Or just some of them?

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.05: The True Names of Things
Post by: kiiranaux on December 29, 2022, 05:40:39 pm

Vanzetti: It wont hurt anything, but make sure you remove them thoroughly. find the WORD token in language_words, and remove its entire entry, then remove that word token from each of the four languages (human dwarf elf goblin) and search for it in the language_symbols files and remove it anywhere there.

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.05: The True Names of Things
Post by: Dragonslayerelf on December 30, 2022, 02:08:21 am

Can you link a version compatible with 47.05? I don't really like 50 and the changes that go with it so I'd appreciate it if the older version was still kept up for we who stick with the old version.

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.05: The True Names of Things
Post by: kiiranaux on December 30, 2022, 02:57:30 pm

Sure Dragonslayer, I'll put a link to a "last 47.05 compatible version" later. There was one that I never released which is slightly more up to date that what was on DFFD recently. Later today.

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.05: The True Names of Things
Post by: Pillbo on December 31, 2022, 05:47:26 pm

Hello, I just started my first HF fort on the steam release. My dwarf options seem to be part of the goblin civ, so I need a Tribeboss to create a squad, but I don't seem able to appoint a Tribeboss. How does this position work? Is it like a mayor that I need to wait for the dwarves to choose? Any workaround to get a squad going? My plan was to make a war fort.

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.05: The True Names of Things
Post by: kiiranaux on December 31, 2022, 09:19:57 pm

Philbo - sorry about that, I know what's causing it and can fix it for tomorrow's update. When you download .09 from steam tomorrow, you'll be able to continue playing on your existing world and appoint the boss.

Version 1.5.08 is live on DFFD and Steam!
This version fixes infinite worldgen rejectionss. A new world is not required.

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.08: The True Names of Things
Post by: Pillbo on January 01, 2023, 05:57:30 pm

thanks I'll keep an eye out for the .09 release. That fort crumbled already because there was no water and I couldn't start with booze or plants. By the time I realized the issue everyone was too far gone. I'll probably try a reclaim in the next couple days though.

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.08: The True Names of Things
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on January 04, 2023, 07:34:11 pm

Hi kiira,

Long time no see. Was ecstatic to see this mod has been adapted and uploaded to the Steam workshop, but quick concern: I forgot to save the original vanilla graphics file (as you recommended in the installation instructions) before overriding it with the "graphics_creatures_layered" file. Is the original file just lost forever now, or can I still retrieve it?

I realize this isn't totally relevant to the mod or necessarily within your area of knowledge, but wasn't quite sure where else to ask.

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.08: The True Names of Things
Post by: Stimraug on January 10, 2023, 07:17:07 am

How do the tags ATTACK_FLAG_BAD_MULTIATTACK and ATTACK_FLAG_INDEPENDENT_MULTIATTACK interact, especially in fortress mode combat? I've seen them used for the weapons. If an attack is flagged as multiattack, how many times can it hit compared to one without a tag? A comprehensive answer about these tags would make me happy, thank you :)

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.08: The True Names of Things
Post by: TheKerberos on January 16, 2023, 04:22:19 am

Hello I'm literally new on DF, how can I play as Cambion/Succubus race? Is it "entity_highfantasy_type4_cambion" ? And do I need to edit anything or the civ are they the Half-fiend civ?

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.08: The True Names of Things
Post by: Olek on January 16, 2023, 05:53:16 am

Quote from: PlumpHelmetMan on January 04, 2023, 07:34:11 pm

Hi kiira,

Long time no see. Was ecstatic to see this mod has been adapted and uploaded to the Steam workshop, but quick concern: I forgot to save the original vanilla graphics file (as you recommended in the installation instructions) before overriding it with the "graphics_creatures_layered" file. Is the original file just lost forever now, or can I still retrieve it?

I realize this isn't totally relevant to the mod or necessarily within your area of knowledge, but wasn't quite sure where else to ask.

You should be able to verify the game in Steam to get original file back.

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.08: The True Names of Things
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on January 16, 2023, 12:00:05 pm

Quote from: Olek on January 16, 2023, 05:53:16 am

Quote from: PlumpHelmetMan on January 04, 2023, 07:34:11 pm

Hi kiira,

Long time no see. Was ecstatic to see this mod has been adapted and uploaded to the Steam workshop, but quick concern: I forgot to save the original vanilla graphics file (as you recommended in the installation instructions) before overriding it with the "graphics_creatures_layered" file. Is the original file just lost forever now, or can I still retrieve it?

I realize this isn't totally relevant to the mod or necessarily within your area of knowledge, but wasn't quite sure where else to ask.

You should be able to verify the game in Steam to get original file back.

Thanks. How do I do that? Not great with Steam functionality beyond just installing and running the games.

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.08: The True Names of Things
Post by: kiiranaux on January 16, 2023, 04:50:42 pm

Quote from: Stimraug on January 10, 2023, 07:17:07 am

How do the tags ATTACK_FLAG_BAD_MULTIATTACK and ATTACK_FLAG_INDEPENDENT_MULTIATTACK interact, especially in fortress mode combat? I've seen them used for the weapons. If an attack is flagged as multiattack, how many times can it hit compared to one without a tag? A comprehensive answer about these tags would make me happy, thank you :)

ATTACK_FLAG_BAD_MULTIATTACK       Multiple strikes with this attack cannot be performed effectively.
ATTACK_FLAG_INDEPENDENT_MULTIATTACK       Multiple strikes with this attack can be performed with no penalty.
Don't know how many times it can hit, but this is actually a vanilla question so maybe the wiki can help

Quote from: TheKerberos on January 16, 2023, 04:22:19 am

Hello I'm literally new on DF, how can I play as Cambion/Succubus race? Is it "entity_highfantasy_type4_cambion" ? And do I need to edit anything or the civ are they the Half-fiend civ?

Yep that's right, just add that file. No changes needed.

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.08: The True Names of Things
Post by: Olek on January 20, 2023, 09:01:27 am

Quote from: PlumpHelmetMan on January 16, 2023, 12:00:05 pm

Quote from: Olek on January 16, 2023, 05:53:16 am

Quote from: PlumpHelmetMan on January 04, 2023, 07:34:11 pm

Hi kiira,

Long time no see. Was ecstatic to see this mod has been adapted and uploaded to the Steam workshop, but quick concern: I forgot to save the original vanilla graphics file (as you recommended in the installation instructions) before overriding it with the "graphics_creatures_layered" file. Is the original file just lost forever now, or can I still retrieve it?

I realize this isn't totally relevant to the mod or necessarily within your area of knowledge, but wasn't quite sure where else to ask.

You should be able to verify the game in Steam to get original file back.

Thanks. How do I do that? Not great with Steam functionality beyond just installing and running the games.

Left click on Dwarf Fortress in your steam library, then right click on it, on the menu that appears left click on properties, left click on local files, left click on verify integrity of game files.
Wait till it scans the game files, if it finds any files that have been altered it will redownload them.

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.08: The True Names of Things
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on January 27, 2023, 06:24:03 am

Quote from: Olek on January 20, 2023, 09:01:27 am

Quote from: PlumpHelmetMan on January 16, 2023, 12:00:05 pm

Quote from: Olek on January 16, 2023, 05:53:16 am

Quote from: PlumpHelmetMan on January 04, 2023, 07:34:11 pm

Hi kiira,

Long time no see. Was ecstatic to see this mod has been adapted and uploaded to the Steam workshop, but quick concern: I forgot to save the original vanilla graphics file (as you recommended in the installation instructions) before overriding it with the "graphics_creatures_layered" file. Is the original file just lost forever now, or can I still retrieve it?

I realize this isn't totally relevant to the mod or necessarily within your area of knowledge, but wasn't quite sure where else to ask.

You should be able to verify the game in Steam to get original file back.

Thanks. How do I do that? Not great with Steam functionality beyond just installing and running the games.

Left click on Dwarf Fortress in your steam library, then right click on it, on the menu that appears left click on properties, left click on local files, left click on verify integrity of game files.
Wait till it scans the game files, if it finds any files that have been altered it will redownload them.

It worked, thanks so much!

Title: Re: [50.01][Class+Prem] Highfantasy Mod System 1.5.08: The True Names of Things
Post by: Viax on July 21, 2023, 06:20:46 am

Whats does PREFSTRING:terrifying features] mean? rival goblins. Also, what is the right way to use them? herbs, hauling and fishing? ot they can do other interesting things? Poor i just got two.
1. New citizens come quite late,
2. Can i change POP_Ratio for some castes from 1 to 3 or 5? Dwarfs. Just didn't see other ones.
3. Does creating mod with Entity:Mountain, creature ETC and Caste:all with change to skill rust will override all castes attributes ? it looks like this

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creature_norustpatch

[OBJECT:CREATURE]
[SELECT_CREATURE:DWARF]
[SELECT_CASTE:ALL]
         [PHYS_ATT_RANGE:STRENGTH:1750:2300:2900:3500:4200:4700:5000]           +++     
         [PHYS_ATT_RATES:STRENGTH:200:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [PHYS_ATT_CAP_PERC:STRENGTH:5000:NONE:NONE:NONE]
          [PHYS_ATT_RANGE:TOUGHNESS:1750:2300:2900:3500:4200:4700:5000]           +++
           [PHYS_ATT_RATES:TOUGHNESS:200:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [PHYS_ATT_CAP_PERC:TOUGHNESS:5000:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [PHYS_ATT_RANGE:AGILITY:1750:2300:2900:3500:4200:4700:5000]           +++
           [PHYS_ATT_RATES:AGILITY:200:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [PHYS_ATT_CAP_PERC:AGILITY:5000:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [PHYS_ATT_RANGE:ENDURANCE:1750:2300:2900:3500:4200:4700:5000]           +++
           [PHYS_ATT_RATES:ENDURANCE:200:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [PHYS_ATT_CAP_PERC:ENDURANCE:5000:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [PHYS_ATT_RANGE:RECUPERATION:1750:2300:2900:3500:4200:4700:5000]        +++       
           [PHYS_ATT_RATES:RECUPERATION:200:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [PHYS_ATT_CAP_PERC:RECUPERATION:5000:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [PHYS_ATT_RANGE:DISEASE_RESISTANCE:1750:2300:2900:3500:4200:4700:5000]  +++
           [PHYS_ATT_RATES:DISEASE_RESISTANCE:200:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [PHYS_ATT_CAP_PERC:DISEASE_RESISTANCE:5000:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [MENT_ATT_RANGE:FOCUS:1750:2300:2900:3500:4200:4700:5000]              +++             
           [MENT_ATT_RATES:FOCUS:200:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [MENT_ATT_CAP_PERC:FOCUS:5000:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [MENT_ATT_RANGE:CREATIVITY:1750:2300:2900:3500:4200:4700:5000]        +++         
           [MENT_ATT_RATES:CREATIVITY:200:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [MENT_ATT_CAP_PERC:CREATIVITY:5000:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [MENT_ATT_RANGE:PATIENCE:1750:2300:2900:3500:4200:4700:5000]           +++     
           [MENT_ATT_RATES:PATIENCE:200:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [MENT_ATT_CAP_PERC:PATIENCE:5000:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [MENT_ATT_RANGE:MEMORY:1750:2300:2900:3500:4200:4700:5000]           +++             
           [MENT_ATT_RATES:MEMORY:200:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [MENT_ATT_CAP_PERC:MEMORY:5000:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [MENT_ATT_RANGE:SPATIAL_SENSE:1750:2300:2900:3500:4200:4700:5000]        +++
           [MENT_ATT_RATES:SPATIAL_SENSE:200:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [MENT_ATT_CAP_PERC:SPATIAL_SENSE:5000:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [MENT_ATT_RANGE:EMPATHY:1750:2300:2900:3500:4200:4700:5000]           +++
           [MENT_ATT_RATES:EMPATHY:200:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [MENT_ATT_CAP_PERC:EMPATHY:5000:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [MENT_ATT_RANGE:MUSICALITY:1750:2300:2900:3500:4200:4700:5000]        +++
           [MENT_ATT_RATES:MUSICALITY:200:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [MENT_ATT_CAP_PERC:MUSICALITY:5000:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [MENT_ATT_RANGE:ANALYTICAL_ABILITY:1750:2300:2900:3500:4200:4700:5000]  +++
           [MENT_ATT_RATES:ANALYTICAL_ABILITY:200:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [MENT_ATT_CAP_PERC:ANALYTICAL_ABILITY:5000:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [MENT_ATT_RANGE:LINGUISTIC_ABILITY:1750:2300:2900:3500:4200:4700:5000]  +++
           [MENT_ATT_RATES:LINGUISTIC_ABILITY:200:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [MENT_ATT_CAP_PERC:LINGUISTIC_ABILITY:5000:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [MENT_ATT_RANGE:INTUITION:1750:2300:2900:3500:4200:4700:5000]           +++
           [MENT_ATT_RATES:INTUITION:200:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [MENT_ATT_CAP_PERC:INTUITION:5000:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [MENT_ATT_RANGE:WILLPOWER:1750:2300:2900:3500:4200:4700:5000]           +++
           [MENT_ATT_RATES:WILLPOWER:200:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [MENT_ATT_CAP_PERC:WILLPOWER:5000:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [MENT_ATT_RANGE:SOCIAL_AWARENESS:1750:2300:2900:3500:4200:4700:5000]     +++
           [MENT_ATT_RATES:SOCIAL_AWARENESS:200:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [MENT_ATT_CAP_PERC:SOCIAL_AWARENESS:5000:NONE:NONE:NONE]
           [MENT_ATT_RANGE:KINESTHETIC_SENSE:1750:2300:2900:3500:4200:4700:5000]     +++
           [MENT_ATT_RATES:KINESTHETIC_SENSE:200:NONE:NONE:NONE]
         [MENT_ATT_CAP_PERC:KINESTHETIC_SENSE:5000:NONE:NONE:NONE]
         [SKILL_RATES:200:NONE:NONE:NONE]
         [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_BIPED_GAITS:700:450:350:200:1200:1600]
         [PERSONALITY:ABSTRACT_INCLINED:0:40:40]
         [PERSONALITY:ACTIVITY_LEVEL:15:25:40]
         [PERSONALITY:ALTRUISM:40:40:60]
         [PERSONALITY:AMBITION:70:80:100]
         [PERSONALITY:ANGER_PROPENSITY:25:35:40]
         [PERSONALITY:ANXIETY_PROPENSITY:0:0:0]
         [PERSONALITY:ART_INCLINED:0:30:40]
         [PERSONALITY:ASSERTIVENESS:60:85:100]
         [PERSONALITY:BASHFUL:0:45:50]
         [PERSONALITY:BRAVERY:50:80:100]
         [PERSONALITY:CHEER_PROPENSITY:60:70:100]
         [PERSONALITY:CLOSEMINDED:0:20:35]
         [PERSONALITY:CONFIDENCE:50:70:85]
         [PERSONALITY:CRUELTY:25:50:60]
         [PERSONALITY:CURIOUS:5:65:100]
         [PERSONALITY:DEPRESSION_PROPENSITY:0:0:0]
         [PERSONALITY:DISCORD:25:40:65]
         [PERSONALITY:DUTIFULNESS:80:90:100]
         [PERSONALITY:EMOTIONALLY_OBSESSIVE:0:20:40]
         [PERSONALITY:ENVY_PROPENSITY:10:25:40]
         [PERSONALITY:EXCITEMENT_SEEKING:40:60:65]
         [PERSONALITY:FRIENDLINESS:60:66:90]
         [PERSONALITY:GRATITUDE:65:80:100]
         [PERSONALITY:GREED:0:25:40]
         [PERSONALITY:GREGARIOUSNESS:75:85:100]
         [PERSONALITY:HATE_PROPENSITY:0:35:40]
         [PERSONALITY:HOPEFUL:0:20:40]
         [PERSONALITY:HUMOR:60:75:90]
         [PERSONALITY:IMAGINATION:0:20:50]
         [PERSONALITY:IMMODERATION:0:25:50]
         [PERSONALITY:IMMODESTY:10:30:40]
         [PERSONALITY:LOVE_PROPENSITY:0:35:40]
         [PERSONALITY:LUST_PROPENSITY:0:20:30]
         [PERSONALITY:ORDERLINESS:90:95:100]
         [PERSONALITY:PERFECTIONIST:60:80:99]
         [PERSONALITY:PERSEVERANCE:10:20:35]
         [PERSONALITY:POLITENESS:70:80:100]
         [PERSONALITY:PRIDE:40:50:75]
         [PERSONALITY:PRIVACY:0:20:40]
         [PERSONALITY:SINGLEMINDED:60:66:100]
         [PERSONALITY:STRESS_VULNERABILITY:0:0:0]
         [PERSONALITY:SWAYED_BY_EMOTIONS:0:10:40]
         [PERSONALITY:THOUGHTLESSNESS:0:25:50]
         [PERSONALITY:TOLERANT:50:80:100]
         [PERSONALITY:TRUST:60:75:100]
         [PERSONALITY:VANITY:0:35:40]
         [PERSONALITY:VENGEFUL:0:35:40]
         [PERSONALITY:VIOLENT:0:35:40]
         [PERSONALITY:WASTEFULNESS:0:20:40]

So far it works, but i have only regular caste dwarfs (month played, so it's 30 days after embarking), don't want to make the game easier! I am just beginner, playing on hard diff, and i like hard playing, overall i always change something in mod files, just for myself.
Tried adding one weapon during game, with reaction to it. Is it possibile? Just wanted to make OP bow just for my race, and reactions for 100 arrows/bolts. game see these reactions, but no matter what, i am unable to make them. BUT IT WAS GOING GAME, should i make a new word?

Overall, this is probably the most complicated mod created and is worth the effort.  Outstanding work. I hope it will be updated with game updates too.

Third question - if i make it compatible with Dark ages, it it possible to make official crossmod edition?

Edit2: Caravan didn't bring any items :(( how to fix that?