Infinity Voter - Once per game, you can make your vote count for infinite votes.
Forceful Voter - The person for whom you vote is lynched. If that person does not hold the majority of votes, you are killed. If you do not vote, you are killed. Your vote is not affected by active powers.
Negative Voter - Your vote(s) take away from the votee. Your vote(s) is not affected by inate powers.
Motivational Voter - Each Night, you give another player an extra vote for the following Day.
Lynch Delayer - You may choose to force a delay on any lynches besides yours to the end of the next Day.
Triple Voter - You have three votes. If you only vote for one person, that vote will count as three, and your role will not be revealed. If you vote for two people, the first person will get two votes.
Secret Voter - Your vote is actually a secret, sent in a pm to me. You may appear to vote for someone other than who you are voting for.
Vote Blocker - Each Day, you may block someone else from continued voting. If they have already voted by that point, they may not retract their vote. If they have not voted, they may not vote.
Swing Voter - Your vote(s) is not taken into consideration unless it is a tie-breaker. If your vote(s) would break a tie, you gain another permanent vote.
Lovestruck Voter - Your vote always goes on to the person for whom [ x ] votes. If [ x ] dies, you may vote freely. You may appear to vote for someone else. Your vote is shifted at the end of the day.
Vote Counter - Each Day, you can bring up the current count on votes in thread. The count will be at the moment you pm me, so as to not skew the results.
Or give people time to be online? <_<Well, yeah, but I mean in general. Some roles are very big, but I created tons of roles. Maybe I could see how well the game works first?
I'll join for the sake of having more players. ;DWe'll go with about 7-9 players, I suppose. I'll have to make sure it's balanced, and there will probably be 2 mafia.
I'll play, but only cos' it's you Webadict.Woo. That's 6. Now for a 1-3 more!
Anyone? Why does Meph get 23 people and I can't even get 7?I'll play, but only cos' it's you Webadict.Woo. That's 6. Now for a 1-3 more!
I'm in. I actually haven't played in a mafia in a while.Sweet! I'll wait until today's end for any other joiners, and then I'll send out roles. I'll try and make this as balanced as possible.
I say unknown for this one and known for the next. When people die, post the description of the role they had and post it in the OP. That way they'll be in a convenient spot for you to copy for next game.Grand idea. I'll do this.
One more would be good. That way the town:mafia ratio is right on.It would also make things a little more even. Some of these roles... Geez!
I accuse Pandar.Yes. You know two roles that are in play.
Webadict, does everyone know a role besides their own that is in play?
Just popping in and saying "It was not I, it was, in fact, inaluct!" is not especially scumhunting, MrPerson
Unvote.
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Seeing as how everyone has knowledge of one role that is not their own, why don't we all reveal what that is? Everyone would remain anonymous while simultaneously all become more knowledgeable.
webadict, will you allow us to do what Sir Josh said?There is no problem with this. However, you must paraphrase what the role does, and not copy and paste it.
I presume we get mod killed if we copy paste then?It'd be like me striking you with lightning.
;)
Mephansteras, you have a lot of experience with the player's inner workings due to all the Paranormal mafias. I'd like you to borrow Web's BS machine and come up with a list for us. Would that be too much trouble?
The role I was told about was the Vote Counter, who gets to look at the vote totals once a day.
The role I was told about was the Vote Counter, who gets to look at the vote totals once a day.
...As in, the actual totals, not just what we see?
That's what it seems to say.The role I was told about was the Vote Counter, who gets to look at the vote totals once a day.
...As in, the actual totals, not just what we see?
That's what I'm guessing.
Motivational Voter-This guy is able to give someone an extra vote during the night, which the receiver can then use the next day. Maybe Mafia, maybe not. If Mafia, he could grant votes to townies to gain their trust (if they do know) or give an extra vote to a townie who's bad at scumhunting (if they don't know). Also could, y'know, give an extra vote to Mafia members.
Forceful Voter - The person you vote for has to be lynched and it has to be the majority or else you're dead. If you don't vote, you're dead. Your vote isn't effected by anything. Potential game-ender if Mafia. Almost certainly scum-safe. Making a Mafia member always have to vote with the majority would be horrifically unfair.
Lynch Delayer - Can delay any lynch besides their own until the end of the next day. Could be either.
Tie Breaker- The person's vote is not taken into consideration unless it would break a tie. Probably not Scum. Making Scum be the guy who always hammers or making him vote early and not change is just cruel and, again, a little unfair.
Negative voter - His vote counts for -1, effectively helping the person he votes for. I'm wary of this one; it makes it easy for Mafia to shelter their own members while appearing to be voting for them.
Infinity Voter - Gets one use of an "Infinite Votes" power per game. Potential game-ender if Mafia. Having a near-guaranteed lynch ready to spring in the endgame is a dangerous power. It's also exactly the sort of trick webadict would set the Mafia up with.
Lovestruck Voter - Must vote as another player does. Very dangerous if other player is Mafia. Almost certainly not tied to Negative Voter or Forceful Voter. Unless it's a Mafia member tied to another Mafia member, this would also be a horrifically unfair thing to do to a Scum player.
Vote Counter - Can see how many actual votes are on people once per day. Now that I think about it, this could be a powerful information-gathering tool for scum. It would also give the Mafia, if Infinity Voter is the other scum, one lynch trick and one information gathering trick, which is in accordance with the principle of Mafia being an Informed Minority vs. an Uninformed Majority.
Also, webadict, can we get an extension?Yes, I suppose. Until the end of the weekend?
Ah, so that's how it works? Neat. As you might be able to infer from the data, I'm a triple voter. My vote counts for 3 votes.
I can also divide my vote among two people, with the first getting 2 votes, and the second getting 1.
I suppose I'll unvote now.
Actually, Web, would a person know they were motivated?Yes. If a person were to recieve or lose a vote, they would be notified.
Also, I should have said "I am not any of these." (unless web answers the question with a 'no').
Someone out there is a Vote Blocker. They can freeze someone's vote (ie, that person cannot change it again). I'm not sure about when that resets though.
Zaithemaster + Pandarsenic votes (in order):
- Zai votes for Pandar (to throw off suspicion)
- Pandar votes for Frelock
- Pandar changes to Toonyman
- Zai follows Pandar and votes for Frelock (avoids both on the same person)
(Not terribly suspicious but better than nothing, mostly it just jumped out at me in my vote graph)
A voice rises up from the crowd: "Let's get a vote count!"
Current Votes:
inaluct - Mr.Person
Frelock - ToonyMan
Pandarsenic - Zaithemaster, JanusTwoface
Org - Mephansteras
ToonyMan - Pandarsenic
Mr.Person - chaoticjosh, Pandarsenic
Infinity Voter - Once per game, you can make your vote count for infinite votes.
Forceful Voter - The person for whom you vote is lynched. If that person does not hold the majority of votes, you are killed. If you do not vote, you are killed. Your vote is not affected by active powers.
I vote Frelock again. But wait. Web, why wasn't my vote for Frelock counted? It wouldn't have mattered anyway (Mr. Person still would have died), but still... And what's with the vote count? Was that you subconsciously realizing that I wasn't voting for Pandar anymore but still forgetting to switch my vote over to Frelock, or is that how it would be if I had still been voting for Pandar (probably because JanusTwoFace or Org is the Negative Voter)?No, that vote count is correct. Sometimes, weird things happen.
Also. Are alignments not revealed at death (town or Mafia)? Or would "Mafia member" just be included in the role description of one?
Hmm...I'm going to guess that Pandarsenic was night-killed by the mafia in an attempt to frame chaoticjosh. That's pretty common scum reasoning, so for now I'm putting josh on my 'probably not scum' list.
I'll go ahead and vote for Frelock, since he was active day 1 but didn't end up voting for anyone. Why not, Frelock?
Org IS the tie breaker. Notice how both Zai's and Janus' votes are counted on this page:Ah, missed that. At least Zai isn't (currently) on my list of suspicious people.
That's pretty rational of you Meph, to immediately jump to the conclusion that I'm being framed instead of calling me scum. Perhaps you're in fact scum, and you want to do some sort of weird reverse bus, to make an innocent look more innocent, in order to draw suspicion away from yourself?And perhaps you're both scum, trying to throw the rest of us off by blaming each other. But that kind of thinking is going to drive me insane, so I'll back down for now.
Org IS the tie breaker. Notice how both Zai's and Janus' votes are counted on this page:
http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=39061.90
When the weird vote counter ability is used.Hmm...I'm going to guess that Pandarsenic was night-killed by the mafia in an attempt to frame chaoticjosh. That's pretty common scum reasoning, so for now I'm putting josh on my 'probably not scum' list.
I'll go ahead and vote for Frelock, since he was active day 1 but didn't end up voting for anyone. Why not, Frelock?
That's pretty rational of you Meph, to immediately jump to the conclusion that I'm being framed instead of calling me scum. Perhaps you're in fact scum, and you want to do some sort of weird reverse bus, to make an innocent look more innocent, in order to draw suspicion away from yourself?
A thought occurred to me Meph, in the very hypothetical scenario that you were a dopp, knowing what you know, would you have used that logic to instead kill me rightaway, instead of trying to frame me?
chaoticjosh and Pandarsenic both voted for Mr.Person. One possibility is that chaoticjosh was trying to silence Mr.Person's role-revealing (meaning that the Mafia could have a powerful unknown role)
At least Zai isn't (currently) on my list of suspicious people.
Oh. The second role?
On the message?
Wait. If I read it correctly, shouldn't we get more people to vote first? The Vote Counter can only reveal once per day and will only reveal the current vote state. So if we use it before the Negative Voter votes, that particular ability won't show up.
Is this correct?
Except that these roles are coming from what webadict told us, and he wouldn't have said if any of them were mafia-specific roles. At least, I really doubt he would. Especially if some could be either town or mafia.
Yes, I agree that the mafia could be lying about the roles they were told about, but the fact that 'mafia' doesn't show up in the descriptions isn't really a clue.
Damn! I'm really starting to regret lynching Mr.Person, he could've had the puzzle piece I need!Yes.
Alright, this is pure speculation, but since all the roles are vote based, this'll explain why I'm left alive:
Now, I'm thinking that the role that Mr.Person knew about was some role that completely negates someone else's vote, so my triple vote won't count for anything, so the mafia can leave me alive because I'm not as influential as I think I am, and thus not a threat!
WA, if there were such a role, would the vote counter be able to see it's effects? A simple yes or no will suffice.
Yes I do. Your question is "Are any of the roles specifically Mafia?"Yes, I agree that the mafia could be lying about the roles they were told about, but the fact that 'mafia' doesn't show up in the descriptions isn't really a clue.
Fine. We shall ask him andhopefullyget an answer.
HEY WEBADICT. Did you include the full role description of the "other" roles in the role PMs?
Yes I do. Your question is "Are any of the roles specifically Mafia?"Yes, I agree that the mafia could be lying about the roles they were told about, but the fact that 'mafia' doesn't show up in the descriptions isn't really a clue.
Fine. We shall ask him andhopefullyget an answer.
HEY WEBADICT. Did you include the full role description of the "other" roles in the role PMs?
The answer is no.
Basically. None of them say, "You are mafia."Quote from: webadictYes I do. Your question is "Are any of the roles specifically Mafia?"Yes, I agree that the mafia could be lying about the roles they were told about, but the fact that 'mafia' doesn't show up in the descriptions isn't really a clue.
Fine. We shall ask him andhopefullyget an answer.
HEY WEBADICT. Did you include the full role description of the "other" roles in the role PMs?
The answer is no.
Kay then. Moving along.
Wait...you do what?
Ugh, on second thought I think Sir Josh and JanusTwoFace are dopps--I mean scum. webadict said that any role can be any alignment, why are both of you so strong in voting for him because of his role?
Can you please give more detail on what your role does?
Someone out there is a Vote Blocker. They can freeze someone's vote (ie, that person cannot change it again). I'm not sure about when that resets though.
^ this ^
Wow, I was right! My theory on the missing role was completely true.
The role I was told about was the Vote Counter, who gets to look at the vote totals once a day.
Maybe I'm paying entirely too much attention, but:The role I was told about was the Vote Counter, who gets to look at the vote totals once a day.
I'm pretty sure that the only role we don't know about is Mr.Person's, which at this point we'll never know (unless the player that actually has it reveals it).
That just goes to show how arrogant I've been lately, when admitting that I occasionally make mistakes is OOC.I think I'll end the Day tomorrow at 10 PM.
but anyway, WA, when will the day end?
That just goes to show how arrogant I've been lately, when admitting that I occasionally make mistakes is OOC.
And inaluct needs to post his defense. >=|I'm not exactly sure what you want, since you're reasoning is pretty bizarre.
3 hrs left right?4 hours, actually.
Zaithemaster honestly seems to be bussing Inaluct at the last second, mixed in with his obscenely odd hypothesis of there being certain people that are lying.
You act as if my reasons for not voting on the first day are suddenly invalid because of your scheme.
If I were lying and saying that I was the negative voter to provide an excuse for not voting on the first day, would I have just voted for myself?
IT IS NOW TIME FOR SOVIET PASTA TO MAKE BENEFIT FOR MOTHERLAND, COMRADES.
You are home to watch Pravda on televisir about degenerate murderer who is on the loose. You look out the window door to beet field, and you notice Man standing in the snow. He look like foto on televisir and he smile at you. You gulp vodka, picking up fone to your right and dialing Local Militia Precinct Commissar. Back out the glass you look, pressing fone to ear. Notice he now closer to you. You drop vodka in shock.
No footprints in snow. It was reflection. You dullard!
Your apartment is bulldozed down to make way for glorious tractor factory.
Negative Voter - Your vote(s) take away from the votee. Your vote(s) is not affected by inate powers.
Motivational Voter - Each Night, you give another player an extra vote for the following Day.
"If you are reading this, then it means that I am still alive. I've asked Webadict to post this message of mine at the start of the day, to which he agreed.
It is 3:30 AM as I write this, several hours after the end of the day, and I've come to the conclusion that preparations must be made.
What preparations? Vote Zaithemaster
I do this because, if my suspicions are correct, then I will be left alive by the mafia for the express purpose of being an increasingly easy lynch, and Zai, whom I suspect to be mafia, will aid in this by Vote Blocking me before I am able to do anything, thus gauranteeing I am unable to vote. By voting in this manner though, I am able to dodge Zai's vote block, and if he used his power preemptively on me last night, then my vote is now permanently attached to him. Take that!
Though, if I'm completely wrong, and Zai didn't preemptively block me, then I can simply re-evaluate the situation whenever I log on.
Also, I would like to ostracize Inaluct for being a lousy lurking town player that apparently can't argue to save his life, and accepts death at the drop of a hat."
Thank you very much Webadict.
Vote Count
inaluct - JanusTwoface, chaoticjosh, Mephansteras, inaluct (6)
JanusTwoface - ToonyMan, Kashyyk (1)
It would appear basic logic is something that amazes and confuses you Zai, because a 5 v. 5 tie would result in a mafia win, because that would result in a no-lynch, and thus a free kill for mafia.
For us to get one more than you, all townies have to vote for scum (you, as you're the most obvious), and I have to block a scum.
Problems that are likely to come up in any case:
- ToonyMan gets Kashyyk's vote. If ToonyMan is scum and Kashyyk isn't, then the Mafia gets an extra vote.
- The vote has to be tied for Org's vote to count.
Question for Zai:
- Can you move your block? Or once you've used it, it's stuck?
Vote Count
inaluct - JanusTwoface, chaoticjosh, Mephansteras, inaluct (6)
JanusTwoface - ToonyMan, Kashyyk (1)
Wait a minute. Something is a little squirrely about this vote board. Either ToonyMan's vote or Kashyyk's vote counted for inaluct instead of for me. We know that Kashyyk is the Lovestruck Voter, so this has to be some sort of ability of ToonyMan's. Looks somewhat suspicious (although I'm not opposed to votes moving off of me).
ToonyMan, care to share?
Back to present time. I don't want Sir Josh to be scum. :-X I think he is though. Blarg. Whatever.
Vote Zai.
Well, uh.....my role is the secret voter. I can once during the game switch my vote from behind the scenes. I'm SORRY inaluct I thought you were scum. :'(
Question for webadict:Everyone dies. If there is a tie between any number of people, they all die.
- What will happen with a tied vote? No-lynch or everyone dies?
Question for webadict:Everyone dies. If there is a tie between any number of people, they all die.
- What will happen with a tied vote? No-lynch or everyone dies?
Question for Zai:
- Can you move your block? Or once you've used it, it's stuck?
Eh, I 'unno. I'll ask Web.
What if everyone voted for themselves? Who would win?
Super props go to a Janus, Org, Kashyyk team, should one exist.
Wait, does that mean the town and mafia don't have to be tied? :oIf there were no way for Town to win, then yes.
I am not Scum.Super props go to a Janus, Org, Kashyyk team, should one exist.
That would be hilarious. XD
Unfortunately, I am 100% sure Josh is scum. He's not being himself.
I'm just hoping TM was telling the truth about only being able to secretly change his vote once per game. =/
I'm still hoping Frelock's actually scum, though. <.< And a scum team of Josh, Janus, and Org would be bad. If that's the case, they need to just come right out and say that they've won to end this. Same for Josh and TM.
I'm really hoping the scum team is Frelock, Josh, and Org. Then town can win pretty easily.
I'm doing lots of hoping. >,>
Super props go to a Janus, Org, Kashyyk team, should one exist.
That would be hilarious. XD
Unfortunately, I am 100% sure Josh is scum. He's not being himself.
I'm just hoping TM was telling the truth about only being able to secretly change his vote once per game. =/
I'm still hoping Frelock's actually scum, though. <.< And a scum team of Josh, Janus, and Org would be bad. If that's the case, they need to just come right out and say that they've won to end this. Same for Josh and TM.
I'm really hoping the scum team is Frelock, Josh, and Org. Then town can win pretty easily.
I'm doing lots of hoping. >,>
Hmm, I forgot about the tie breaker and the lovestruck voter. So, since I'm out of the running, we have the current votes possible:
Chaoticjosh: 3 votes (his role, of course)
Zaithmaster: 2 votes (if he was indeed motivated, which I'm assuming is true)
Toonyman: 2 votes (gets Kashyyk's vote)
JanusTwoFace: 1 vote
Org: 1 vote (must be a tie to count)
Frelock: 0 votes (blocked)
Kashyyk: 0 votes (lovestruck)
Current tally:
CJ-Zai, Toony (4)
Zai-CJ (3)
Automatic Scum Wins:
CJ, Janus, Org (3+1+1(tiebreak) v 2+2)
Zai, Toony, Janus (2+2+1 v 3)
Zai, Toony, Org (2+2+1(tiebreak) v 3+1)
CJ, Toony (3+2 v 2+1)
CJ, Zai (3+2 v 2+1)
I LIKE HIM BETTER. ;D I don't know, I was just joking.
Unvote.
Vote Sir Josh. :(
Well, uh.....my role is the secret voter. I can once during the game switch my vote from behind the scenes. I'm SORRY inaluct I thought you were scum. :'(
With this info, I think we can infer that the scum team is:
Zai
Frelock
Janus
Well, I'll probably get lynched.
Seriously, lynch Zai when I'm gone. Avennnnnge meeeeeeee.
Aw shit. I'm now thinking Josh is scum.
Unvote inaluct. Too late to make a difference, though.
How does Inaluct making a statement against you implicate ME?
[Snipped for size]
I never said that part was a lie, silly, though I can see how you could think I had, considering I had poorly worded that second sentence of mine in my accusation post. The gist of it is: you didn't give the whole truth. This, combined with Meph's theory of your role being made to somewhat counter Josh's, is why I'm voting for you. If you're proven not scum after the lynch, then I'll vote for Josh tomorrow (if I'm still alive, as I have the only role that can completely annihilate the use of Josh's role...).
Wait. Oh crap. Sudden thought: my role, possibly alongside inaluct's, is what's meant to counter Josh's role. Only thing is, I would have to block him before he votes, or lock him on someone I think is scum. Thoughts, particularly from Josh and inaluct?
I am confused. Reevaluation time.
Hold up, I just noticed something.chaoticjosh and Pandarsenic both voted for Mr.Person. One possibility is that chaoticjosh was trying to silence Mr.Person's role-revealing (meaning that the Mafia could have a powerful unknown role)
Why would I do that!? Role revealing was MY idea to begin with! I thought he was lurking, and it was only until after he was lynched that it became clear (through reading Paranormal) that his power had gone out.
Now Janus, I know you're quite the talkative thinker, but I'll hazard a guess that you're mafia, because you're acting like you do in Paranormal, where you were a Dopp!
Janustwoface
Also, my suspicion of ToonyMan is increasing ever so much, mainly from his inability (purposeful or otherwise) to form any solid suspicion of his own.
To hide a powerful (and currently unknown) Mafia role from the Town perchance?
You SCUM.....hrmmmm.....voting for you would be a OMGUS vote wouldn't it?
Whatever.
Unvote.
Vote Janus. He's scum. SCUM SCUM SCUM.
If at all, I'd prefer to lynch Janus, because if he is in fact scum as I think he is, then he has the ability to perform a hefty WIFOM, that goes like this:
If ToonyMan is in fact town, then he can prevent his lynch, thereby incriminating both himself and ToonyMan. Then he kills one player in the night, gets killed himself the following day, another nightkill, and then ToonyMan. So it'd be like Janus would be sacrificing himself for 3 townies...
Neither Janus or Toony can MOVE their votes now, because if they do, they're condemning themselves to death.
I'm not refusing to lynch ToonyMan, I just think you are far more dangerous.
If you were town, you could still lynch both of us basically by yourself, but you obviously don't want to lynch Toony either.
Overall, that last post was enough to convince me that Josh and Toony are both scum.
Well, there is something you've obviously forgotten about! Day 1, I random voted, then got exposed as the triple voter by Frelock, the vote counter.
Then just say what you're thinking Zai!
"Oh, I trust Janus so much! Therefore, the only scum team has to be Josh, Kashyyk, and Frelock!"
You're hoping for the slimmest of the slim chances? Why can't you just trust me Zai?
Also, you're right Frelock, IIRC, Janus can't delay his own lynch.
Also, EPYC?
If both TM and Janus are scum, Zai, lynching Janus would be the best decision, so Toony's lynch can't be delayed.
Three votes on Janus, three votes on me. If WA up and decides to end the day right now, then Janus and I will die.
NO ZAI! NOT WIN-WIN! You're just taking advantage of Toon's lapse in judgment to try to kill me as well!If you can get a second, yes I will allow a ONE HOUR extension.
COME ON TOON! Where are you?
WA, can I ask for a day extension? A small one? Maybe just an hour or something?
Unvote Kashyyk. Vote chaoticjoshDay Extension Approved!
Nah, I'm just playin' with you. I wouldn't do that.
Unvote Josh. Vote ToonyMan.
Kidding again.
Unvote TM. Vote chaoticjosh.
Boop. Real vote this time. 2 on Josh.
And Josh, I think it would be much easier to pin the blame on me for a loss for the town than TM.
HOWEVER: If Janus does not attempt to defend himself. I will change my vote to him. Condemning him to death, essentially. And to give him time to do this, I second the day extension.
HOWEVER: If Janus does not attempt to defend himself. I will change my vote to him. Condemning him to death, essentially. And to give him time to do this, I second the day extension.
I'll sacrificing myself for the good of the town; both of us dying gives the town an additional 2 votes relative to the Mafia.
Also, I've realized that my ability doesn't help us overly much at this point. All I can do is stop the Mafia from killing during the day. They can still kill us all during the night.
So what exactly do you want?
I have little beyond the deep suspicion that Josh is scum and that Toony is crazy.
I will say that Josh isn't helping his case in my eyes with how extremely defensive he's being. I do guess that he who screams the loudest is heard the most. I just hope that this strategy of his doesn't cost the town the game.
In my defense, I would like to point out that I have been one of the more active players this game. Each day, I tried to figure out who the scum were (albeit unsuccessfully). This time, I think I've finally found one, and he's about to slip away. Sadness.
Come on Zai! Do you think a Mafia member would sit here, arguing with you, sticking his neck out, being loud and obnoxious and noticeable for two whole days!? Really?!
Come on Zai! Do you think a Mafia member would sit here, arguing with you, sticking his neck out, being loud and obnoxious and noticeable for two whole days!? Really?!
Yes
Lynch Delayer - You may choose to force a delay on any lynches besides yours to the end of the next Day.
Triple Voter - You have three votes. If you only vote for one person, that vote will count as three, and your role will not be revealed. If you vote for two people, the first person will get two votes.
Vote Zai.
Everyone lynch him NOW.
As for why I'm voting for you, I'm highly suspicious of you now. Sir Josh and Janus are dead and only one flipped Mafia. Doesn't sound right.
Now the scum is trying to lynch me! OMGUS vote.
BUT I'M NOT SCUM ARG. Stop trying to trick me. You could want to be extending the day so you can gloat and stuff.
Checked back again. Frelock can't be scum if Sir Josh is telling the truth (which he most likely was)
You know what? Screw it.
Unvote.
Vote Zai.
Vote for me, do it. I don't know what's going to happen, but let's find out.
No it's fine.
I'm not saying anything else. Bite me.
Mafia won.
Good game.
Well, now that I haven't been blocked...
Vote Toonyman
Also, Kashyyk, if you vote for TM, and then Zai blocks you, he can't take your vote, because it's locked in place.
Actually, Zai, you might just want to take away Kashyyk's vote now, so he can't go over to TM.
Oh, now I see what we should have done. You should have blocked Org. Then you and TM would die, yes. However, if, as I suspect, Org is scum, then I or Kashyyk votes for him on the last day, and since the vote is 1-0, he can't vote because there's no tie.
And inaluct for one game.
I vote for tOONYMAN. hE REALLY HAS BEEN SCUMMY. aLTHOUGH MY VOTE DOESNT REALLY COUNT.You need to use Red.
Ignore the caps. Too lazy to fix. Working on AP stats hw.
inaluct was lurking this game and I disliked his playing. He is to receive a one-game ban.And inaluct for one game.
o,0 What'd inaluct do?
I'd like Org to say he votes for TM before ending the day, though.
[pre-post edit:] Does what Org just said qualify as a vote, should there be a tie? I'm not sure how much you're enforcing a "your vote must be in color" rule.
inaluct was lurking this game and I disliked his playing. He is to receive a one-game ban.
Oh, I thought WA was going to post my final Bah post, but I'll just do it:
AaAAAgGGhHHHHHHHH!
You mean 50?Oh, I thought WA was going to post my final Bah post, but I'll just do it:
AaAAAgGGhHHHHHHHH!
A bit late do that now. ;)
And 3/45 people voting to end the day is the majority, so yea! Game's almost over again!
I'm about 50% sure now that Kashyyk is mafia. The other 90% is split evenly between you two.
So, you are 140% sure that someone is mafia? And that the respective chances are 50% 45% and 45%.
I am 9001% sure one of you are mafia.So, you are 140% sure that someone is mafia? And that the respective chances are 50% 45% and 45%.
That was the joke. ;)
Same to Org's reply.
Secret Voter - Your vote is actually a secret, sent in a pm to me. You may appear to vote for someone other than who you are voting for.
Vote Blocker - Each Day, you may block someone else from continued voting. If they have already voted by that point, they may not retract their vote. If they have not voted, they may not vote.
Org, if you vote Zai we win. Kashyyk has already voted, with me. The block was a waste.Why did Tooneyman do this ridiculous thing of revealing himself? Because he knew he had won anyway, as long as Kashyyk remained inactive. For this reason, it is impossible for me/ Kashyyk to remain in the mafia. I will now be reading through the rest of this thread to see which of you two are in the mafia.
ToonyMan - 2
Zai - 2
Org vote Zai. We win.
When do you expect the day to end, webadict? I'm happy to end the day if Org's happy with it (and if he doesn't vote for me, of course).The Day will end if I have a majority vote to end the Day or for another 30 hours.
Actually, there aren't double lynches in this game, are there?There are as many lynches as people that are tied.
So if everyone had one vote at the beginning they could vote themselves and everyone dies?Assuming that everyone could and did, then yes.
Not quite. For example, whoever CJ voted for would automatically be lynched, as he had the most votes. This is actually the only time where double-lynching is a viable strategy. Plus, if everyone died, it would be a draw, and wouldn't it be better for town to win?
So if everyone had one vote at the beginning they could vote themselves and everyone dies?
Were I mafia, I would have voted with TM yesterday against Zai and won. The same goes for you, hence why my vote's on Leaf. Also, were I scum, I wouldn't have to resort to this; I'd just vote with Leaf and we'd be done. The only person I'm 100% certain is town is me, hence why I'm quite happy with this situation, as I know I'll survive, and therefore, town will survive and win.That's not true. Org is a tie breaker. If he switched who he voted for, TM would've still died (2 vs 1+tiebreaker). I know you're not mafia because if you switched, TM would have survived (1+tiebreaker vs 2).
Correction. 2 vs 2+tiebreaker. Too bad none sees this.Look back at what Webadict said.
Zaithemaster - ToonyMan (1)Kashyyk didn't vote. Therefore you didn't get get his vote. If Org had switched, the result would be the same, only we would know Org was scum.
ToonyMan - Zaithemaster, Frelock, Org (2)
The game would've been one if I hadn't replace Kashyyk.
You're dead. Stop posting or I'll give you a really bad role next time. And I have plenty of them.The game would've been one if I hadn't replace Kashyyk.
That too. ;)
Web? When is the day ending?Right now.
Swing Voter - Your vote(s) is not taken into consideration unless it is a tie-breaker. If your vote(s) would break a tie, you gain another permanent vote.
Lovestruck Voter - Your vote always goes on to the person for whom [ x ] votes. If [ x ] dies, you may vote freely. You may appear to vote for someone else. Your vote is shifted at the end of the day.
Vote Counter - Each Day, you can bring up the current count on votes in thread. The count will be at the moment you pm me, so as to not skew the results.
So what exactly just happened?They lynched each other. Org was the scum. Town won! Frelock took over for the Mayor, because I wanted him to.
Whatever town this is just got screwed. I'm glad I'm dead, actually.So what exactly just happened?They lynched each other. Org was the scum. Town won! Frelock took over for the Mayor, because I wanted him to.
I was asleep at the time and if I had we might still have lost.
Vote Blocker - Each Day, you may block someone else from continued voting. If they have already voted by that point, they may not retract their vote. If they have not voted, they may not vote.And anyway, looking back at the whiteboard on that day...
I think Zai voteblocked Kashyyk to prevent his vote following yours. It would've ended up 2 vs 1 w/ swing voter.
If only I knew the fall extent of your power. :V
If only I knew the fall extent of your power. :V
I shared the "fall extent" of my power a while ago.
Yeah Kashyyk was blocked by Zaithemaster. The funny thing is I knew that was the only way for town to win :P
Ask Janus and Josh.
Oh, you're SURE one of us are dopps? Now, there is something I've been keeping a secret. I like you though, so I'll let you in on this secret, and it'll just be between you, and me, and everyone else here. What if I told you that this vicious arguing between me and Zai has actually lowered my suspicion of him?
Now, in my list of possible scum teams, there is one that I forgot to mention:
ToonyMan
Janus
Org
Now, if I had to guess the only person that's been lurking more than you, is Org. Janus, using his apparently pedestal of intelligence and towniness, remains in the center with his objectivity and holding back with his lynch delay, presumably to use in the endgame. You'll provide random votes he may need, and Org'll look pretty and help out where he can.
Now, if I had to speculate at all, I think this would be the scum team I'm looking for.
ZaiIt was only later that I saw the correct one and I realised that Org had to be the mafia member (also I knew that Frelock could have switched his vote and won instantly on day 5 if he were mafia). Blowing my own brains out was unfortunate, but I realised that refusing to do that would be a total scum tell.
Frelock
Janus
Zai
Kashyyk
Janus
Zai*
ToonyMan*
Kashyyk*
Janus*
Toonyman*
Kashyyk*
Kashyyk
Janus
Org
Yeah Kashyyk was blocked by Zaithemaster. The funny thing is I knew that was the only way for town to win :P
Ask Janus and Josh.
Yep, WA predicted that blocking Kashyyk would be the only way to go. I was really worried that you might not catch on, but you did. Then I was worried that Frelock was going to march us straight to defeat, but then Leafsnail saved us, and it was alright.
Finally, page 18:Oh, you're SURE one of us are dopps? Now, there is something I've been keeping a secret. I like you though, so I'll let you in on this secret, and it'll just be between you, and me, and everyone else here. What if I told you that this vicious arguing between me and Zai has actually lowered my suspicion of him?
Now, in my list of possible scum teams, there is one that I forgot to mention:
ToonyMan
Janus
Org
Now, if I had to guess the only person that's been lurking more than you, is Org. Janus, using his apparently pedestal of intelligence and towniness, remains in the center with his objectivity and holding back with his lynch delay, presumably to use in the endgame. You'll provide random votes he may need, and Org'll look pretty and help out where he can.
Now, if I had to speculate at all, I think this would be the scum team I'm looking for.
100% ACCURATE SCUM TEAM PREDICTION! Yeah!
Who we kill'in this night?Who did you vote?
Josh
You mean the secret vote? I didn't do it.
I don't want to kill Sir Josh so early. :P He always dies at the beginning. That's no fun. GRRR.. I'm having jerk with a heart of gold syndrome.
How about Pandar? He's a good alternative.
SO WAIT! You decided to not kill me because I usually get killed by the mafia?
I got saved by mercy-logic, wow.
Why'd you hit Meph then instead of me?