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Dwarf Fortress => DF Adventure Mode Discussion => Topic started by: Rumrusher on August 23, 2010, 06:07:03 pm

Title: how to achieve Quatum Travel aka body swap.
Post by: Rumrusher on August 23, 2010, 06:07:03 pm

daruis has made it possible to body swap with out a cage trap (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=69682.0)

^{oh I done this on 31.10 yet I think one can do this with 40d with dwarf companion.}

Spoiler: "31.10 version" (click to show/hide)

this is another pointless quirk you can achieve in adventure mode but unlike the other ones I made this can be done with out need to be in fort mode(no wait you need fort mode for the cage traps but that's all).

you need to do three things for this to work

a loaded cage trap
a runesmith
and the adventure traps to be on(in the init folder).

After you created your cagetraps in a area where you won't forget where they are(pave a road to them.)
you need to get taught in one*
then go in runesmith find your adventurer's flag tab and remove the "Caged" section and click the floppy disk to save.
 now during the freedom of the cage walk at least a good two embark tiles away from the cage( or keep walking until you suddenly die)
**once you kick the bucket the game will randomly(well the person who the top of the list in runesmith from a guess) select 1 creature from the area.
This is your first leap now the game will swap your character for every time you travel with any thing in the area.

Anathema found another way to do this with out cage traps and utilities and also dump a save file on the character
 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=75246.0)

now I only found two ways of staying with the same character. first one is simply walking to your destination(which is just as easy as it sounds) second and risky the Travel shuffle, where you have to Travel back you the town(area) you lost your old body to reappear in it then travel to your next destination( risky as this can lead to an ambush and either having to Travel back to the same spot or losing your character in the woods.)
if you wish to return to your old body just go back to the original spot(you might have to travel back to swap bodies.)

Spoiler: warning (click to show/hide)

*best to Save before you get trap or you might corrupt the save if you screw around before jumping in the cage
** now on the issue of death ending the game by starvation or Escape means losing the ability to play as your original adventurer, so far this is pretty new so I don't know if returning and retiring will end the quantum traveling.  yes it does stop the body swapping

so now with this you can finally get into the shoes of a law giver, a prisoner, a king, and many more!
edit: thanks for the alt title Kobold
edit: thanks for the alt way of doing it Anathema

Title: Re: how to achieve Quatum Travel mode
Post by: Kobold Troubadour on August 23, 2010, 06:57:55 pm

Better title would have been body switching or something...interesting little find. Guess that's one way to "assassinate" higher ups.

Although last time I tried, I wasn't able to run runesmith (maybe I haven't installed all the necessary files/program or cuz' my DF is in another drive entirely, whatever).

Title: Re: how to achieve Quatum Travel mode
Post by: Rumrusher on August 24, 2010, 07:46:01 am

Quote from: Kobold Troubadour on August 23, 2010, 06:57:55 pm

Better title would have been body switching or something...interesting little find. Guess that's one way to "assassinate" higher ups.

Although last time I tried, I wasn't able to run runesmith (maybe I haven't installed all the necessary files/program or cuz' my DF is in another drive entirely, whatever).

Well this and adding interesting stuff in quests like hired to kill a priest who kill 5 people.
One could body swap a priest hire some lowly companions(and a demon) walk miles into a ruin and park the dude there. Though one has to Travel back to town(in someone else body no less) and retire into the adventurer.

Title: Re: how to achieve Quatum Travel aka body swap.
Post by: Biag on August 24, 2010, 12:51:35 pm

If you do stuff while in, say, the law-giver's body, does it show up in their Legends entry?

Also, this means that apparently Toady has the basic framework down for taking control of already-existing folks in the world. Awesome.

Title: Re: how to achieve Quatum Travel aka body swap.
Post by: Rumrusher on August 25, 2010, 01:10:38 pm

Quote from: Biag on August 24, 2010, 12:51:35 pm

If you do stuff while in, say, the law-giver's body, does it show up in their Legends entry?

Also, this means that apparently Toady has the basic framework down for taking control of already-existing folks in the world. Awesome.

yes but they won't be shown in a blue text as a adventurer is so you better either change their name and do something historic due to any normal person would never pop up in the legend.
wait if companions travel with you and if you have body swap on then one could control the other companions this way though I think you have to recruit the band again in a different body.

Title: Re: how to achieve Quatum Travel aka body swap.
Post by: Kobold Troubadour on August 25, 2010, 06:57:08 pm

Hmmm......so theoretically, you can train & raise the entire town to "adventurer" class skills, stats & equips (Or if you go the extra mile several if not all towns).

Ought to give more interesting things in either Fortress or Adventure modes (Have your dorfs make a fort to a nearby town filled with battle hardened citizens, instant border patrols?).

Title: Re: how to achieve Quatum Travel aka body swap.
Post by: Rumrusher on August 26, 2010, 12:02:38 pm

Quote from: Kobold Troubadour on August 25, 2010, 06:57:08 pm

Hmmm......so theoretically, you can train & raise the entire town to "adventurer" class skills, stats & equips (Or if you go the extra mile several if not all towns).

Ought to give more interesting things in either Fortress or Adventure modes (Have your dorfs make a fort to a nearby town filled with battle hardened citizens, instant border patrols?).

the only kicker is that the game will randomly select the first character then if you go back as the same character it will swap between the second(adventurer or new depending if the guy still there) character and the one you played before...
To get the chance to play as every body you might want to body swap then travel to a different town and repeat.
so yeah you can train raise and equip towns and turn them into a militia even a army then send squads of 12 on other town and civs.

Title: Re: how to achieve Quatum Travel aka body swap.
Post by: Flaede on October 05, 2010, 11:00:24 pm

Just found this. Why did this thread not get more love?
A question: can people could train up the civ-leaders so they destroy you in fort mode?

Title: Re: how to achieve Quatum Travel aka body swap.
Post by: Rumrusher on October 06, 2010, 06:56:52 am

Quote from: Flaede on October 05, 2010, 11:00:24 pm

Just found this. Why did this thread not get more love?
A question: can people could train up the civ-leaders so they destroy you in fort mode?

any one with can learn tag will earn stats and learn skills.
So yes you can train up Civ-Leaders.
Don't know why you want them to megabeast rampage you but hey I'm not masochistic.
You can also get the Civ leader to recruit a band of 'bodyguards' with runesmith if you slap on a high adventure trait on the meat shield.

The only thing I would ask you to save a lot over is setting up a In-game battle. If there is a war happening you can body swap a general recruit some army men and Travel over to the enemy base or town they should start to cause havoc on the folks there due to your not in the body of the general and the natural AI will attack those a enemy to the civ leading to a pretty good battle on a large scale out side of arena mode.

I think with loyalty crusade tactics one could do this with out having any race in war if you can get out of the town fast enough after getting someone in that town to become a enemy of the civ your returning to and recruit enough men on the second trip back.
The guys you brought back might not fight the town right away due to the provoker is a mile to the east away from the Meed hall. When they do oh boy It will be fun!

Title: Re: how to achieve Quatum Travel aka body swap.
Post by: Heliman on October 13, 2010, 10:20:59 pm

Quote from: Rumrusher on October 06, 2010, 06:56:52 am

Don't know why you want them to megabeast rampage you but hey I'm not masochistic.

It's for the thrill of the hunt! we're bored of snapping the brittle necks of goblin kings! After thousands of goblin king kills, we now want one to go down kicking, biting, spitting and scratching!

Title: Re: how to achieve Quatum Travel aka body swap.
Post by: Rumrusher on November 17, 2010, 06:00:28 pm

good news Daruis updated his Dfusion to do exactly this with out the hassle of setting up cages and traps.

Title: Re: how to achieve Quatum Travel aka body swap.
Post by: The Master on July 09, 2011, 06:48:43 pm

I doubt there's any point in asking, but is this still possible in the vanilla game, or is the only way to do this now through utilities? OR, is there no way at all now?

Title: Re: how to achieve Quatum Travel aka body swap.
Post by: Rumrusher on July 10, 2011, 07:58:42 pm

Quote from: The Master on July 09, 2011, 06:48:43 pm

I doubt there's any point in asking, but is this still possible in the vanilla game, or is the only way to do this now through utilities? OR, is there no way at all now?

how I did this first was through utilities on vanilla, but people have said sleeping in the ocean will allow you access to this.

Title: Re: how to achieve Quatum Travel aka body swap.
Post by: thegoatgod_pan on July 11, 2011, 12:21:12 pm

I had it happen to me when I recruited a demon I randomly found living in a village.  Granted my adventurer was actually a militia commander from fort mode, up and about due to dfhack. It was sorta fun, but turning into random cavern critters can be a hassle and curb your fast traveling.  Esp. when you go from being, say, a giant tiger to a pond grabber.

Title: Re: how to achieve Quatum Travel aka body swap.
Post by: Rumrusher on July 11, 2011, 09:08:07 pm

Quote from: thegoatgod_pan on July 11, 2011, 12:21:12 pm

I had it happen to me when I recruited a demon I randomly found living in a village.  Granted my adventurer was actually a militia commander from fort mode, up and about due to dfhack. It was sorta fun, but turning into random cavern critters can be a hassle and curb your fast traveling.  Esp. when you go from being, say, a giant tiger to a pond grabber.

if the character isn't perma saved change in adventure mode using Dfusion any other means of changing will cause the Quantum Travel effect even sleeping will do this to you.
this is because adventures have a small bit of code that tracks where they are and auto direct control them.
this small code can be broken and send the control to a random character and due to each random character doesn't have that code the game will continue to play a random character until it finds the adventurer.