Name: DariusThis, let us be hearty and hale.
Trait: Healthy
Boon: Population
Name: Lycwl (pronounced lie-cwool), my attempt at not producing a name that invokes a culture in particular.
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Name: Lycwl (pronounced lie-cwool), my attempt at not producing a name that invokes a culture in particular.+1
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A - I wonder if we'll have the opportunity to restore he family's land and property. And anyone else who the last king did this too.
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The orcish dignitaries have arrived, bringing with them about twenty orcs. The bodyguard orcs are at least half, to full head taller than the dignitaries, as well as a bit bulkier.
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Was any peace deal like this one was ever accepted in those games?
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fuck it. Let's go out in a blaze of glory.
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. . . magic as everyday tools . . . crystalline tableware . . .
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I feel like deserting the populace right after a revolt isn’t a good idea
There is A and B no C or DI feel like deserting the populace right after a revolt isn’t a good idea
Less people alive, less people to revolt!
On the other hand,
D
level 30 adventurers always seem good.
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BBAGood point, changing my previous vote to BBA
We just exhausted ourselves *preventing* autonomous areas in our kingdom. Lets not roll back over for it now, just because this guy happens to be willing to work with us *at the moment*.
bba bba bba bba bbaIt appears tiebreaker is needed, do we start debating which one to do? BBA vs BAB? The BBB deciding who to refuse?
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Nyeeeeh ;V
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I'd rather have Duke Circo as an ally than an issue down the road. As we know nothing else about his daughters, we should take the one with a couple more childbearing years ahead of her.
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@Naturegirl1999 when u post a new vote, please use theI didn’t make a new vote, my vote was always d, I just counted the votes since I thought it would be easierstrikethroughto erase the previous, otherwise I fail to notice and your votes get doubled ;v
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A messenger is dispatched to the Cbran aeries, requesting presence of their artificers!410 AEC, End of the Year
Happiness: 4
Population: 3
Economy: 3
Army: 2
*Navy: 2
"Although our sources of income are rather stable," The Advisor says to you, pacing before your desk. "You've requested the Drakes to commission us an artifact, and there's still two years of tributes that we need to send to Maestrimar and Satorias. We could tax the peasants, or the noblemen."
"The Marshal and the Admiral are at odds with each other. They both believe that with our current income, both the Army and the Navy should be enlarged to protect us from outside and inside threats."
As for the taxes...
A) Raise the taxes for the peasants.
B) Make up some one-time tax for the noblemen.
C) Nothing, there's no need for extra taxation!
As for the military...
A) Time to recruit some more soldiers.
B) Let's build some more ships.
C) Nah, we're doing fine right now!
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This, the taxing of peasants constantly, this is why I wanted to do a one time tax to the nobles for the money we needed at that momentUrrgh, new money troubles just keep coming don't they?
Maybe we don't have to buy everything that passes in front of our nose . . .
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. . . but this one is well proven. (And since we keep taxing peasants to the point of rebellion . . .)
Edit: Looking back to why we renbelelled against Arrat, it looks like we are turning into him
D would be nice but C in abnscence.+1
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They might dislike us for it but I doubt it would be more then a minor grudge.
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No, leading the army means leading the army.Changed choice accordingly
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C. But be polite about it. This thing could be powerful.Agreed, we should be polite
AIt would be a good idea to learn more thiugh
If the noise has stopped, problem solved. No need to mess any further with ropes that move without wind and other weird stuff.
It suddenly occurs to me... what if this thing's a grell? It's time for some cautionary measures, methinks.What’s a Greek?
If write-in suggestions cannot be made, then A. We'll deal with this whatever-it-is in the morning.
If we can write in our own suggestions... D: call in three or four orcs to investigate.
Kinda like the Romans in beta testing.It suddenly occurs to me... what if this thing's a grell? It's time for some cautionary measures, methinks.What’s a Greek?
If write-in suggestions cannot be made, then A. We'll deal with this whatever-it-is in the morning.
If we can write in our own suggestions... D: call in three or four orcs to investigate.
And this... is going straight to the OOC quotes thread. :DWhat’s a Greek?Kinda like the Romans in beta testing.
Ugh, D. Better some exorcist gets eaten than us... butI Don’t think they will ask. That’s why we should continue investigation
can we try and find exorcists that won't "exorcise first, ask questions later"? If this thing is a ghost, it might turn out to be someone we know.
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AI’m not sure if not spending on the capital will result in loss, I certainly don’t think our children pare old enough to rule in our absence. We have to try to keep the capital functioning. And maybe TAX THE NOBLES when we get the chance. They are rich and can afford it without starving
I don’t think we’re long for this world.
A, If we don't have a capital city, then the citizens cant riot there.Or even better, if we don't have any citizens, there won't be any riots!
But then we don’t have anyone to rule over, unless we expect the nobles to start workingA, If we don't have a capital city, then the citizens cant riot there.Or even better, if we don't have any citizens, there won't be any riots!
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Opportunities for festivals usually show up elsewhere, like for a good harvest or some other auspicious happening.When will we be able to re,I’ve the extra taxes?
(If you want to "spend" money to get happiness, maybe try not collecting extra taxes for a while, is my point.)
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When will we stop the extra taxes on the peasants?
A.Taxing the peasants is the reason they are revolting
We must never stop taxing the peasants. Taxing the peasants is the cause for all of this good weather.
He caresses his bread.Typo? :P
If this actually does something, we wanna choose carefully... and land prosperity oughta go a fair ways towards helping fulfill all that family-related stuff anyway. Healthy peasants means healthy us!
Oh, also this way we get good publicity if anybody should happen to hear us praying.
So you are voting for D too? I think putting the letter along with the reasoning can help choice countingIf this actually does something, we wanna choose carefully... and land prosperity oughta go a fair ways towards helping fulfill all that family-related stuff anyway. Healthy peasants means healthy us!
Oh, also this way we get good publicity if anybody should happen to hear us praying.
((imitation is a form of flattery 8)))
If this actually does something, we wanna choose carefully... and praying on behalf of our (future) family on a thanks-for-my-family pilgrimage to a family-oriented god just makes sense. Even a hint of a promise that our dynasty will reach a third generation would mean more stable prospects than we've seen in a number of years.
Oh, also this way we get a reputation for piety if anybody should happen to hear us praying. ;)
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As wonderful and enlightening and whatnot as that sounds, we do have a kingdom to run.
Probs too little, too late, but A.Well sure... but most likely at the cost of our kingdom's stability. I mean, not that we're very good at ensuring that ourselves anyway... but still, I don't really trust our circle-of-nobles to keep things in one piece while we're gone.
If we frame ourself as a devout man of faith, we might earn greater support from both the common folk and the Church.
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CV"V"?
B Ah a raven, the ancient weakness of orcs, too bad they could not protect us.To be fair, the raven isn’t a threat, it’s sending a message
GOh yeah, the protection from the ring applies to our kin as well, G
Not worth trading an artifact that can be passed down for a buff that only applies to a single character.
GOh. Right. Silly me. G
Not worth trading an artifact that can be passed down for a buff that only applies to a single character.
GG seems fair
Not worth trading an artifact that can be passed down for a buff that only applies to a single character.
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Oh no Ive seen this event trigger before!Oh? Where? What happened?
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I note Abene seems rather taken with this fellow... could become a problem in future.Oh no Ive seen this event trigger before!Oh? Where? What happened?
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Information is always good.
AAsking for information is not sending him away, though
We may regret hiring him, but if we send him away our wife will make sure we regret it.
Asking for information is not sending him away, though
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D - We generally have the opportunity to acquire new troops when war looms, and there's the chance of the orcs offering again. We rarely ever get the opportunity to increase our population by throwing money at themYeah, our feudalism means we can call for levies that don't appear to be counted on the Scrolls (equal to about +5, I think, last time). Population growth would be wonderful.
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Is Satorias some kinda nemesis of ours? I don't recall.You may recall the giant war in which we refused to reach terms until their army utterly humiliated us and forced punitive concessions for many years? It's that Satorias.
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E) -Ah hah!
E) Get busy with it. Promise you will have another son within 5 years.Oh, this works! +1 if permissible, otherwise still B
E option is unavailable, if you want a custom for me to consider, label it F ;v
Ah. In that case...
F: We shall promise to produce a male heir to our throne within five years.
FI want to know this too
(Wait, what is E? Why is an unavailable choice present?)
C Artifacts are !FUN!+1
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B, I don't like the feeling that A makes us look needy.That’s fair, B
L: AnreuOh, I actually really like this. Much better than my goofy suggestion. +1
Let us name him after the leader of Xane-Peon, as a sort of conciliatory gesture to ease any hurt feelings over the betrothal/power sharing debacle, which has just been rendered moot.
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Let us name him after the leader of Xane-Peon, as a sort of conciliatory gesture to ease any hurt feelings over the betrothal/power sharing debacle, which has just been rendered moot.
C - I believe we follow agnatic/male-preference primogeniture succession, rather than absolute primogeniture. Thus it is perfectly fine for Arina to no longer be the heir to the throne
C - I believe we follow agnatic/male-preference primogeniture succession, rather than absolute primogeniture. Thus it is perfectly fine for Arina to no longer be the heir to the throne
The update looks pretty clear to me that Arina is the heir, nothing changed when a son was born. Our first two heirs were our first two born, I don't think we ought to assume male preference rules without clearer evidence. (After all the complaining and law changing in previous Spamkingdoms, Haspen may have started this one with better chances for the daughters, knowing that exactly a situation like this might then arise.) Furthermore Arina is our remaining child by our first wife, so she may have precedence on that account – even though the second marriage was encouraged by the court and eventually the priests, it was nevertheless presented as a special exception to traditional values.
In this run, it's absolute primogeniture, because such is Father's and Mother's wish for the eldest to inherit (and is why youngest get least). It's why the nobles are making such a fuss aboot it. Putting youngest over elder is also a reason for the pious ones to make a fuss, btw.Oh, A in that case, this would hopefuly be more understandble.
Honestly, going along with it means we will combine two nations, but likely have to fight a civil war against the Kastorian nobility at some point down the road to do so. I'd say its worth a try.I don't know if we can go as far as turning into that one crusading nation everybody loves to hate, but I do think combining the nations is worth a try. Especially if we get lucky and Arina & Marti's first, inheriting child is a girl. We can claim all sorts of motherly privileges to raise her properly Kastorian.
Edit: We could even claim that the death of our son following the betrothal of our daughter is a sign that the father and mother will all people who worship them to be united under one leadership, and thus claim justification to go and conquer other nations of our faith.
Honestly, going along with it means we will combine two nations, but likely have to fight a civil war against the Kastorian nobility at some point down the road to do so. I'd say its worth a try.I don't know if we can go as far as turning into that one crusading nation everybody loves to hate, but I do think combining the nations is worth a try. Especially if we get lucky and Arina & Marti's first, inheriting child is a girl. We can claim all sorts of motherly privileges to raise her properly Kastorian.
Edit: We could even claim that the death of our son following the betrothal of our daughter is a sign that the father and mother will all people who worship them to be united under one leadership, and thus claim justification to go and conquer other nations of our faith.
So are you saying B,then? Because B says we go with itHonestly, going along with it means we will combine two nations, but likely have to fight a civil war against the Kastorian nobility at some point down the road to do so. I'd say its worth a try.I don't know if we can go as far as turning into that one crusading nation everybody loves to hate, but I do think combining the nations is worth a try. Especially if we get lucky and Arina & Marti's first, inheriting child is a girl. We can claim all sorts of motherly privileges to raise her properly Kastorian.
Edit: We could even claim that the death of our son following the betrothal of our daughter is a sign that the father and mother will all people who worship them to be united under one leadership, and thus claim justification to go and conquer other nations of our faith.
We'd also need King Lycwl to die before said first child is born, so we can play as Arina. Quite a few pieces that need to fall into place for that to work.
The more I think about it, the more I feel that we actually have a decent chance of this all going down fine without having to do anything. King Anreu promised Kastoria special treatment. King Lycwl is Charismatic, and should be able to use the concessions offered to pacify the nobles. Failing that, we have the army and money to put them down if they rebel.
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Both, the laws are modeled after traditions of The Father and the Mother cult ;vI'm surprised that it's considered a whopping -2 "Outrageous" in that case. Faithless hypocrites!
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This is basically the DM asking: “Are you sure?”
Which is normally not a good thing...
Its -2 because you will be 'selling' the kingdom to foreigner ;v
And yes, breaking the bonds of matrimony or picking up a new kid to replace Arina would also piss them off. No win option in that one.
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"A gift?"
"Well!" The head diplomat smiles. "Queen Yanna believes in fair trade and fair repayments, and only asks that when you rebuild your wealth, you simply send the money back as a sign of your own, personal, generosity. Consider this our own way at strengthening relationships between countries and royal families."
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Xane-Peon's continued friendship is very very valuable to us. I'll not risk it over a grudge.Here, here! B
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But... but just because we don't have immediate enemies now doesn't mean we won't later!Superdorf is right. We should be prepared
But... but just because we don't have immediate enemies now doesn't mean we won't later!
B There's no need for bodyguards right now, the country is stable and we don't have any immediate enemies either.
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They should be warned but we need the goodwill of our allies against human threats that might appear.
That said, belt tightening for now, no more festivals and whatnot for a while.
Uhh Weirdsound, you're good at this bit. What name would be most politically expedient?
I'll go with L: Zoria after the kid's maternal grandfather who is our mentor/close ally at court.
+1I'll go with L: Zoria after the kid's maternal grandfather who is our mentor/close ally at court.
As good a name as any! +1
+1+1I'll go with L: Zoria after the kid's maternal grandfather who is our mentor/close ally at court.
As good a name as any! +1
L: Bitor then.+1
+1L: Bitor then.+1
Oh, oop. Well, that's an easy change.+1+1L: Bitor then.+1
I wonder if we can make a profit selling our gold weapons to other countries if the Fai start to spread...Not sure, they have gold and craftsman to make those
Plus we still need themI wonder if we can make a profit selling our gold weapons to other countries if the Fai start to spread...Not sure, they have gold and craftsman to make those
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This is why we have alliances. If they will not stand with us against the fey, what use are they as an ally.
I’m not sure we know how many there areA
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This is why we have alliances. If they will not stand with us against the fey, what use are they as an ally.
If we have to call them in against an enemy that seems to number in the mere dozens or hundreds, what use are we to them as an ally?
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So do we get to send him beyond the wall and turn him into the 3 Eyed Raven? Or does that only work when we cripple him on purpose after he catches us in an act of incest?
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Burn baby burn. This is a long term solution. We will likely incur some religious rebellions and/or some divine wrath, but once it is done with, we will never have to worry about the bastards instead.You are right
Plus, it seems like most of the nobles are on our side here. If the church rises against us, we can put them down easily, and demand the right to start taxing them again as terms for peace.
B, trees can be replanted
Shame there was no option to hunt those tasty money makers known as mermaids.
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P.S. I am not going to the plains, I am moving to the coast and taking up mermaid worship in b4 divine retribution.
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P.S. I am not going to the plains, I am moving to the coast and taking up mermaid worship in b4 divine retribution.
I thought of that, but that would likely turn both our subjects and our Mother/Father worshiping neighbors against us. If we want to turn against the church, we need the church to make the first move.
DD
Sounds to me more like a good way to get people riled up for a holy war on top of our current troubles.
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Lets get a trait out of this maybe!Explain to me what a "trait" is in the context of SPAMKINGDOM games?
I smell a Monty Python reference. :D+1
C-- Orange!
+1I smell a Monty Python reference. :D+1
C-- Orange!
C: Gold. The field of wheat, the gleam of coins, the light of sun, the tongue of flame. Fortune and disaster.+1
+1C: Gold. The field of wheat, the gleam of coins, the light of sun, the tongue of flame. Fortune and disaster.+1
+1+1C: Gold. The field of wheat, the gleam of coins, the light of sun, the tongue of flame. Fortune and disaster.+1
+1+1+1C: Gold. The field of wheat, the gleam of coins, the light of sun, the tongue of flame. Fortune and disaster.+1
Also: the capital of Assyria is (or was) Nineveh, and the airspeed velocity of an unladen European Swallow is about 24 mph.
(Is there a reason you chose this color, Superdorf?)
BThe higher risk the more likely we become a corpse
The higher the risk the better the reward.
For a brief moment, you can see that King Amet is looking at you.
Then you look back at the Oracle, confused.
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Eat the horse. Much tastier than nasty lizard flesh!Yep.
A AEat the horse. Much tastier than nasty lizard flesh!Yep.
Even if it's not, it's not at all clean and we really don't want it getting infected. I figure this is something well worth taking a little time over... especially if we extend our supplies by eating the horse.And the lizards
C - A single berry can kill us if it is the wrong type. Let's not risk itGood point
AA horse, a horse, my spamkingdom for a horse! (And some food pls I'm starving)
At this point, I’m not sure how we get back home with the supplies we have left.
AIt's simple: off-screen teleportation (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BoringReturnJourney)
At this point, I’m not sure how we get back home with the supplies we have left.
This link lead me to what you showed me, what Fridge Logic (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FridgeLogic) was, why Plot Holes (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PlotHole) can happen, and what Timey Wimey Balls (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TimeyWimeyBall) are. Good lnkAIt's simple: off-screen teleportation (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BoringReturnJourney)
At this point, I’m not sure how we get back home with the supplies we have left.
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C I disagree. I'd rather another branch of the family inherit over allowing the bloodline to be subverted.
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Honestly, I wouldn't mind coming to an understanding with her and the spymaster. Let her sleep around, silence her partners, claim the kids as our own.
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Honestly, I wouldn't mind coming to an understanding with her and the spymaster. Let her sleep around, silence her partners, claim the kids as our own.
Our treasury isn't the best...
Edit: I feel like something should be done to the oracle for causing all this (I support launching burning tar in a catapult at 'er building).
AYes, now that I think about it, you are right
Writing an "IOU" for a marriage pact just kinda seems like... a bad idea.
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Are our bedroom issues public knowledge? Or are these nobles genuinely expecting us to give their female relatives children?I'm assuming widespread gossip at the very least – the poor rolls with Ane mean she made no secret that she despised us and never spent the night. If we'd already had a child we might have let her be, but we need that cover story should, ahem, a surrogate father enter the picture. Mention of which ought not be taken as a proposal for action, merely one possibility that the future might throw.
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BBegone, pirates
Punishing plundering pirates promotes peace and prosperity.
Wait, the mines have been continually making gold weapons? How many do we need?We need to be sure they are gone before melting the only thing that can defeat them down
But B. One more year. Make sure they are gone. Perhaps clear some forest.
Wait, the mines have been continually making gold weapons?
Wait, the mines have been continually making gold weapons?
Well, yeah, you didn't wonder why Economy wasn't going slowly up these years?
Haspen, could you clarify something? The previous update on Elea that I remember said she and Anreu were childless; but that was five years ago and Kemen is an "infant" king with a name our family has used in the past. Is Kemen believed to be her and Anreu's son, or someone else who just happens to be a baby?
Haspen, could you clarify something? The previous update on Elea that I remember said she and Anreu were childless; but that was five years ago and Kemen is an "infant" king with a name our family has used in the past. Is Kemen believed to be her and Anreu's son, or someone else who just happens to be a baby?
Thank you.Haspen, could you clarify something? The previous update on Elea that I remember said she and Anreu were childless; but that was five years ago and Kemen is an "infant" king with a name our family has used in the past. Is Kemen believed to be her and Anreu's son, or someone else who just happens to be a baby?
That's Anreu III and Elea's son, yis. 1.5 years old currently.
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Fireblood hasn't been invented in this game, in fact at the start we were using bronze weapons (which seem to have changed to iron a couple updates ago). I expect walls are a greater factor than in the SPAMfuture. (P.S. Duke Oro probably has a martial trait, if it's the same duke who was the hero of the reconquest of Arosema twenty years ago.)
B - You never know, they might be surrendering.It states they wish to negotiate the terms of our surrender.
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That will kill us, if teh red exclamation point is any indication
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Matin's wife is the daughter of Duke Oro, executing her entire family will probably upset her.The alchemists and the oracle have both killed the king himself and they are still alive. If she is upsetted, she can join the club.
Matin's wife is the daughter of Duke Oro, executing her entire family will probably upset her.
The alchemists and the oracle have both killed the king himself and they are still alive. If she is upsetted, she can join the club.Why are we blaming slipping and falling from an overhung cliff while pursued by a bear on the Oracle? I don't see how she has enough agency in that scene to be the deciding factor.
Wait. Matin's wife is Oro's daughter? I thought it was our last King who married Oro's daughter?Yes, our current king's wife is Oro's daughter. She disowned her father at or near the start of the conflict, according to the coronation update, preferring steadfastness over treachery. Iakes'
The alchemists and the oracle have both killed the king himself and they are still alive. If she is upsetted, she can join the club.Why are we blaming slipping and falling from an overhung cliff while pursued by a bear on the Oracle? I don't see how she has enough agency in that scene to be the deciding factor.
Wait. Matin's wife is Oro's daughter? I thought it was our last King who married Oro's daughter?Yes, our current king's wife is Oro's daughter. She disowned her father at or near the start of the conflict, according to the coronation update, preferring steadfastness over treachery. Iakes'wifewidow is a granddaughter, who also renounced ties in favor of the Lycwyllian royals.
Because she sent us on that stupid quest that got our king killed. Also she broke the fourth wall, without us even getting to collectively flip her off for doing so.The alchemists and the oracle have both killed the king himself and they are still alive. If she is upsetted, she can join the club.Why are we blaming slipping and falling from an overhung cliff while pursued by a bear on the Oracle? I don't see how she has enough agency in that scene to be the deciding factor.
Disorder and chaos grips the Kingdom of Xane-Peon right now; the regents of infant King, Kemen I, are fighting the forces loyal to Queen Elea and her lover, General Matin Zagorra. That your aunt would rebel against Xane-Peonian Crown is a shock to your family, but then again, she didnt' write for years. Apparently, her goal is to place her lover on the throne of Xane-Peon and start a new dynasty.*emphasis added
Issues of family status and character aside, if we want to continue our alliance with Xane-Peon, we should probably pick a side.
I'll go with B as a purely pragmatic choice. If we side with the baby, his regents would kill the queen when we win. If we side with the queen, she would likely allow her son to live out his life with us as part of the Kastorian nobility, thus keeping more of our endangered family alive. Also, the Queen's lover and future King is General Matin Zagorra. Sounds like a Martial character who I would rather fight alongside than against.
Issues of family status and character aside, if we want to continue our alliance with Xane-Peon, we should probably pick a side.
I'll go with B as a purely pragmatic choice. If we side with the baby, his regents would kill the queen when we win. If we side with the queen, she would likely allow her son to live out his life with us as part of the Kastorian nobility, thus keeping more of our endangered family alive. Also, the Queen's lover and future King is General Matin Zagorra. Sounds like a Martial character who I would rather fight alongside than against.
It sounds like you picked the wrong option for what you're intending.
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Issues of family status and character aside, if we want to continue our alliance with Xane-Peon, we should probably pick a side.
I'll go with A as a purely pragmatic choice. If we side with the baby, his regents would kill the queen when we win. If we side with the queen, she would likely allow her son to live out his life with us as part of the Kastorian nobility, thus keeping more of our endangered family alive. Also, the Queen's lover and future King is General Matin Zagorra. Sounds like a Martial character who I would rather fight alongside than against.
Issues of family status and character aside, if we want to continue our alliance with Xane-Peon, we should probably pick a side.
I'll go with A as a purely pragmatic choice. If we side with the baby, his regents would kill the queen when we win. If we side with the queen, she would likely allow her son to live out his life with us as part of the Kastorian nobility, thus keeping more of our endangered family alive. Also, the Queen's lover and future King is General Matin Zagorra. Sounds like a Martial character who I would rather fight alongside than against.
Balderdash. Matin could let those guys live only because he is secure as king by lineage and the voices in his head are (by the slimmest margin) soft-hearted toward those who were not the head of the rebellion. There is no way that an NPC, who specifically wants to overthrow the previous dynasty, lets the crowned king of that dynasty escape alive. Elea's not even taking the reins herself, she has to share power with the pretender king. Speaking of General Zagorra and his presumed martial ability, the two sides are in a stalemate. Our involvement should tip the scale regardless.
(Frankly, it sounds like the pragmatic choice is more likely to be joining the Peons.)
(Wait, now we(they) have steel? Man, tech progress is fast in this world.)
Elea has 12 thousand, if they have 2 thousand more than ten thousand
B even if our forces don't have a martial guy our lucky trait works even without us being there, we can use this moment to create ties in their courtIf you speak the truth, then I'm sufficiently convinced.
C - Invite King Kemen and his court to KastoriaC, unless we need to take the options given, in that case B.
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A cold is worth diplomatic relations.
Sounds good to me! C if possible, B if not.C - Invite King Kemen and his court to KastoriaC, unless we need to take the options given, in that case B.
AAgreed. A.
"The war is far from over. If we kill her now, we are signing our own death warrants should the war turn against us."
AAgreed. A.
"The war is far from over. If we kill her now, we are signing our own death warrants should the war turn against us."
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Reply -
To the Brave Hero Matin
Your words cut deep, and your offer of a duel intrigues, but I fear I must decline. I am unworthy of meeting you in such honorable competition - My virtue is nothing compared to your own. You, who gallantly slew your rival by having your woman poison him! You, who posses the courage to make war against the most deadly of foes - a mere child! You who are selfless enough to grant the Peons their own country through your well calculated and clearly genius plan of plunging the realm you wish to run into civil war.
I am but a humble man, who seeks nothing more than to manage his realm, preserve his family, honor the Father and Mother, and end lowly bottom-feeding vermin who think they can rebel against their rightful King. Oh, and herd swine I guess. You are correct in saying that we do indeed rise some fine pigs in Kastoria. It figures my sister would fall in love with a man who reminds her of home!
In summary, I could never duel a hero such as yourself. I do, however, intend to someday go home and fondle my wife as you suggest. I bet you wish you could do the same, but it would seem your princess is in my castle for the foreseeable future. I'd advise you instead to fall on your sword, but judging by the fact that you haven't given my sister children, I doubt yours is even sharp enough to do damage.
Yours truly
-The Real King Matin
This has all of my yes. Haspen, please make it so.B
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To the Brave Hero Matin
Your words cut deep, and your offer of a duel intrigues, but I fear I must decline. I am unworthy of meeting you in such honorable competition - My virtue is nothing compared to your own. You, who gallantly slew your rival by having your woman poison him! You, who posses the courage to make war against the most deadly of foes - a mere child! You who are selfless enough to grant the Peons their own country through your well calculated and clearly genius plan of plunging the realm you wish to run into civil war.
I am but a humble man, who seeks nothing more than to manage his realm, preserve his family, honor the Father and Mother, and end lowly bottom-feeding vermin who think they can rebel against their rightful King. Oh, and herd swine I guess. You are correct in saying that we do indeed rise some fine pigs in Kastoria. It figures my sister would fall in love with a man who reminds her of home!
In summary, I could never duel a hero such as yourself. I do, however, intend to someday go home and fondle my wife as you suggest. I bet you wish you could do the same, but it would seem your princess is in my castle for the foreseeable future. I'd advise you instead to fall on your sword, but judging by the fact that you haven't given my sister children, I doubt yours is even sharp enough to do damage.
Yours truly
-The Real King Matin
Send this exact letter.
+1This has all of my yes. Haspen, please make it so.B
Reply -
To the Brave Hero Matin
Your words cut deep, and your offer of a duel intrigues, but I fear I must decline. I am unworthy of meeting you in such honorable competition - My virtue is nothing compared to your own. You, who gallantly slew your rival by having your woman poison him! You, who posses the courage to make war against the most deadly of foes - a mere child! You who are selfless enough to grant the Peons their own country through your well calculated and clearly genius plan of plunging the realm you wish to run into civil war.
I am but a humble man, who seeks nothing more than to manage his realm, preserve his family, honor the Father and Mother, and end lowly bottom-feeding vermin who think they can rebel against their rightful King. Oh, and herd swine I guess. You are correct in saying that we do indeed rise some fine pigs in Kastoria. It figures my sister would fall in love with a man who reminds her of home!
In summary, I could never duel a hero such as yourself. I do, however, intend to someday go home and fondle my wife as you suggest. I bet you wish you could do the same, but it would seem your princess is in my castle for the foreseeable future. I'd advise you instead to fall on your sword, but judging by the fact that you haven't given my sister children, I doubt yours is even sharp enough to do damage.
Yours truly
-The Real King Matin
Send this exact letter.
+1+1This has all of my yes. Haspen, please make it so.B
Reply -
To the Brave Hero Matin
Your words cut deep, and your offer of a duel intrigues, but I fear I must decline. I am unworthy of meeting you in such honorable competition - My virtue is nothing compared to your own. You, who gallantly slew your rival by having your woman poison him! You, who posses the courage to make war against the most deadly of foes - a mere child! You who are selfless enough to grant the Peons their own country through your well calculated and clearly genius plan of plunging the realm you wish to run into civil war.
I am but a humble man, who seeks nothing more than to manage his realm, preserve his family, honor the Father and Mother, and end lowly bottom-feeding vermin who think they can rebel against their rightful King. Oh, and herd swine I guess. You are correct in saying that we do indeed rise some fine pigs in Kastoria. It figures my sister would fall in love with a man who reminds her of home!
In summary, I could never duel a hero such as yourself. I do, however, intend to someday go home and fondle my wife as you suggest. I bet you wish you could do the same, but it would seem your princess is in my castle for the foreseeable future. I'd advise you instead to fall on your sword, but judging by the fact that you haven't given my sister children, I doubt yours is even sharp enough to do damage.
Yours truly
-The Real King Matin
Send this exact letter.
+1, changing my vote to B for this.+1+1This has all of my yes. Haspen, please make it so.B
-snip an absolute roast-
Send this exact letter.
+1+1, changing my vote to B for this.+1+1This has all of my yes. Haspen, please make it so.B
-snip an absolute roast-
Send this exact letter.
+1+1+1, changing my vote to B for this.+1+1This has all of my yes. Haspen, please make it so.B
-snip an absolute roast-
Send this exact letter.
Spoiler: Local Map, year 423 (click to show/hide)
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E - If we're lucky, General Matin's forces will end up fighting the Peon nationalists outside our walls
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They can't even afford lodgings fit for a king in their castle, and as I recall, the rebels control the mines where Xane-Peon gets their money. If they could get mercenaries, they would have gotten mercenaries by now.
Again. Matin holds the mines, and probably isn't a total idiot. He will likely use the break in the fighting to reinforce his position, and allow us to weaken our army fighting the Peonians.Actually that's a good point. Changing my vote to F.
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Please remind me, what advice was ignored?
My vote will remain E regardless of the answer to this, I was just curious
Ah, yes, a dumb move on their partE
Please remind me, what advice was ignored?
My vote will remain E regardless of the answer to this, I was just curious
We wanted Kemen's regents to negotiate with Peon. They refused.
We should spend some money on bards and writers to make sure the histories record that we first attempted to keep our pledge to Xane but were thwarted by the foolish regents.
A we won't bet something without putting weight to win+1 A
Somebody let me know if I'm going overboard here, but I figure if we're doing this we'd better commit to it!
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What a tangle! We're supporting the Peons, but now the Peons are joining with Matin, who is pretty much our sworn enemy after the whole imprisoning his lover thing. We're going to give future graduate students plenty to write about, that's for sure.Question, won’t this pit our troops against each other?
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Regardless of who wins between Peons and Regents, we must oppose Matin in full force because we only get lands the Peons end up with – I'm sure he's not planning to split it with us.
Question, won’t this pit our troops against each other?We have Kastorian uniforms, battle flags, and such to recognize our own units. Besides, I'm thinking that our troops and his aren't with the same group(s) of Peons. Even if there is a unified Peon leadership trying to play both sides – which is unconfirmed – they ought to have enough sense to keep rival armies apart from each other.
Our valiant troops could also march in and defend against the vile usurper, then turn around and honorably open the gates in vile treachery when the real peonian army arrives.What I'd like to see happen is first cut down the traitor, Matin Zoza; second turn around and force the regents to make terms with the combined Kastoria-Peon army, trying especially to annex any land belonging to particularly odious regents; and third take our share of the proceeds and give it back to Kemen sans idiot advisors. Then we pretend we were watching out for our nephew's interests all along.
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Game of thrones it up.
Our valiant troops could also march in and defend against the vile usurper, then turn around and honorably open the gates in vile treachery when the real peonian army arrives.What I'd like to see happen is first cut down the traitor, Matin Zoza; second turn around and force the regents to make terms with the combined Kastoria-Peon army, trying especially to annex any land belonging to particularly odious regents; and third take our share of the proceeds and give it back to Kemen sans idiot advisors. Then we pretend we were watching out for our nephew's interests all along.
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Game of thrones it up.
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This is about how I expected that war to end.
*Navy: 5Okay, time to ask: what does the asterisk mean?
I assume it's a sub-category type thing*Navy: 5Okay, time to ask: what does the asterisk mean?
Also, A B
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BI assume by blaming the Regents, thus giving us a slightly tardy excuse to
How would this even be spun in our favor?
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I always wonder how they manage to make these massive armies appear out of nowhere when we don't seem to have any troop to rally in the first place.
Anyways, we just put money into bolstering the army, lets give that time to work.
We didn’t have much army before.C
I always wonder how they manage to make these massive armies appear out of nowhere when we don't seem to have any troop to rally in the first place.
Anyways, we just put money into bolstering the army, lets give that time to work.
All the troops we were going to rally joined them instead.
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We should keep the brave noble boy in mind when splitting the lands of the traitors between those who deserve them.
AThe purpose of a siege isn't generally to prepare for an assault of a castle, it's to starve the defenders out. The longer the siege, the weaker the inhabitants of the city become, until they either surrender or, in very rare cases, refuse to surrender but become so weak that the assaulting army is able to just walk all over them in an assault.
Somebody explain to me tho why this taking a long time would be a good thing?
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One of these days we're going to read a letter that has some sort of magic curse it places on people who read it.
C,A Honestly, I don't blame her for being bored.+1 We have spent a lot of time away from home during our reign. If there is fault, perhaps we share it to some degree?
But maybe we could send her a letter to remind her that we are still out here thinking of her?
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We are Matin the Fearsome. We have crushed two rebellions while outnumbered and fought with our troops on the frontline. We have personally slain members of an opposing house in 2-1 combat. We have gained the terror of traitors and the love of our people. We have fought on both sides of a war, and won. We have made orcs refuse to pay us because of how bad ass we are.
I think we can handle a mere lizard.
Besides, we're lucky and you have to remember that while this option is high-risk, it is also high-gain for a very good reason. How many other people can say that they personally killed a salamander? Not many, I would bet. Also, salamander cloak.
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We are Matin the Fearsome. We have crushed two rebellions while outnumbered and fought with our troops on the frontline. We have personally slain members of an opposing house in 2-1 combat. We have gained the terror of traitors and the love of our people. We have fought on both sides of a war, and won. We have made orcs refuse to pay us because of how bad ass we are.
I think we can handle a mere lizard.
Besides, we're lucky and you have to remember that while this option is high-risk, it is also high-gain for a very good reason. How many other people can say that they personally killed a salamander? Not many, I would bet. Also, salamander cloak.Last time we fought a megabeast, we had an artifact sword and a laser horse, and still only managed a draw. Let's not throw this character away.
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We are Matin the Fearsome. We have crushed two rebellions while outnumbered and fought with our troops on the frontline. We have personally slain members of an opposing house in 2-1 combat. We have gained the terror of traitors and the love of our people. We have fought on both sides of a war, and won. We have made orcs refuse to pay us because of how bad ass we are.
I think we can handle a mere lizard.
Besides, we're lucky and you have to remember that while this option is high-risk, it is also high-gain for a very good reason. How many other people can say that they personally killed a salamander? Not many, I would bet. Also, salamander cloak.Last time we fought a megabeast, we had an artifact sword and a laser horse, and still only managed a draw. Let's not throw this character away.
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Actually, thinking about it, D is a bad idea. Last time we asked a Witch it was trouble. I'd rather throw Matin's life away, and risk a regency, than risk a witch taking our son. Our other kid is a daughter, and Orcs don't serve women.
Changing my vote to A.
No option to squad up with our new Orc bodyguards for it? Just us solo, or the entire army?
Well, B then I suppose.
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Also, we only lost the left leg below the knee. It's not entirely unreasonable for us to, say, hire someone to make us a new one some time in the future. Especially if our reputation remains positive.
AI also vote A. Why not attach a Salamander tooth or a sword where our leg was
Ooooooh yeah baby we won! And our people love us! And all the scroll numbers are doing amazing! We've saved our reputation!
Also, we only lost the left leg below the knee. It's not entirely unreasonable for us to, say, hire someone to make us a new one some time in the future. Especially if our reputation remains positive.
Also, we only lost the left leg below the knee. It's not entirely unreasonable for us to, say, hire someone to make us a new one some time in the future. Especially if our reputation remains positive.
I was originally going to refuse because that seemed like the in character thing to do, but then I realised the possibility of joining their kingdom with ours in the future, and I knew Matin wouldn't want to forgo such a wonderful opportunity.
A all the way!
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Yfres wouldn’t know if we send it
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(Will strike out first vote)
WAIT.... HONOR OF DOGE?
Spoiler: Local Map, year 423 (click to show/hide)
It would be rude to run off after starting negotiations with Gellaine.Eh, fair point. Changing vote.
Actually a difficult choice.
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We are still missing a leg right?
Also I'm pretty sure we don't have a solid potential heir.
Just because we're missing a leg doesn't mean we can't do something about it in the future and, besides, Matin is definitely not the sort of person to abdicate. His nickname is the Fearsome for Father's sake.
Also I'm pretty sure we don't have a solid potential heir.
Urgh. "A" seems petty. "B" seems heavy-handed. "C" makes us look weak.
A, I suppose.
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I was thinking we don't have a lot of pull right now because we've neglected our pilgrimage. Although Matin has certainly had a charmed reign just to survive to this point.The oracle broke the fourth wall and lead us to our death. I still want to get a trebuchet over there to obliterate the place.
In my opinion the most obvious influence of the supernatural so far was the Oracle – and that didn't quite go to plan. Even our artifact is uncertain: how do we know when we didn't get sick? And I don't think any of the rulers have stepped aboard a ship.
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is making me nervous only because it commits our "mightiest" riders to an experimental program. But since we've brought them all the way here, I want to give them a try. Horses aren't warlike by nature, either, without a trusted rider they prefer to run from anything noisy. "Scalies" at least have armaments, one supposes they must have instinct to use them in some circumstance.
A.Good point, A
If it falls out of fashion here, we can middleman it to another nation.
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