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Author Topic: American Election Megathread - It's Over  (Read 715542 times)

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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7305 on: October 26, 2012, 01:08:15 pm »

http://www.enstarz.com/articles/8577/20121026/electoral-college-map-2012-obama-hits-271-votes-enough-win-election.htm

According to these dudes, Obama has it in the bag with 271 electoral votes, 76 tossups and 191 for Romney.

http://freedomslighthouse.net/2012-presidential-election-electoral-vote-map/

According to these dudes, Romney has it in the bag with 279 electoral votes to Obama 259.

http://electoral-vote.com/
these dudes favor obama even more, though several of the states are sufficiently low for obama that they could swing the other way.

http://www.electionprojection.com/2012elections/president12.php
And these dudes are even more predicting obama victory.... gotta go to lunch now, cant finish this comment.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7306 on: October 26, 2012, 01:09:48 pm »

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/.

I like to use 538 myself.  Obama 294 to Romney 244 currently.
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« Reply #7307 on: October 26, 2012, 01:10:14 pm »

I heard an Australian reporter on TV talking about the ~1969 independence vote of West Papua from Indonesia. The US and UK wanted it to stay as part of Indonesia, this was back when Indonesia had the murderous dictator Suharto.

The reporter said he was there at a polling place, and there was a British election observer inside the polling place. Outside people were trying to get in to vote, but the Indonesian army was threatening them at gunpoint, beating people, herding those who protested into trucks and disappearing them somewhere. There were hand-picking people who were allowed to vote in the referendum, but these people were scared witless what would happen if they didn't "vote right".

The reporter went into the polling place, and told the "observer" what was happening outside. The observer calmly said "my job is to observe what happens in here, not out there!".

I can believe that.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7308 on: October 26, 2012, 02:10:03 pm »

I'm seriously hoping that our Nov. 6th die roll goes to Obama... it's all prayer [or hope, for a non-religious perspective] at this point. I'd like to know what the best universities in Canada are, just in case...
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7309 on: October 26, 2012, 02:17:31 pm »

I'm seriously hoping that our Nov. 6th die roll goes to Obama... it's all prayer [or hope, for a non-religious perspective] at this point. I'd like to know what the best universities in Canada are, just in case...

Eh, I don't like or trust Romney, but I doubt he'd ruin the country or anything. I do expect that he'd avoid doing anything that actually cost rich people money. Other than that, it's hard to say what he'd really do. He changes his position on everything too often to get a sense of what he'd do if he was actually president.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7310 on: October 26, 2012, 02:25:53 pm »

I'm not worried about Romney for Romney's sake, it's that he'll roll over and let his party implement all sorts of crazy stuff. There will be big pressure on him to fill the Supreme Court with radical conservatives so they can overturn Roe-vs-Wade and ban abortions, and stuff like that.

Will he stand up to the more radical impulses of his own party?

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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7311 on: October 26, 2012, 02:34:44 pm »

Romney preaches to the crowd he addresses, no matter if it contradicts what he has said before. 

It is going to be a question of who is he going to need to preach to for another 4 years in office.  If you can answer that, you will know what direction he will try to take the country in. 
I am of the belief that he can practically ignore the masses for the first 3 years... and follow the agenda of securing big money for the next cycle, since America "Heck Yea!" has the attention span of young children.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7312 on: October 26, 2012, 03:05:13 pm »

I'm not worried about Romney for Romney's sake, it's that he'll roll over and let his party implement all sorts of crazy stuff. There will be big pressure on him to fill the Supreme Court with radical conservatives so they can overturn Roe-vs-Wade and ban abortions, and stuff like that.

Will he stand up to the more radical impulses of his own party?

That's what I meant. Personally Romney would probably play more moderate to keep his public appeal up, but the far-right wing of the Republican party could use him like a puppet to shove through all their stone-age morals and trickle-down economics.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7313 on: October 26, 2012, 03:08:47 pm »

http://freedomslighthouse.net/2012-presidential-election-electoral-vote-map/

According to these dudes, Romney has it in the bag with 279 electoral votes to Obama 259.

That site has Ohio as a Romney state even though their polling averages show Obama ahead.  I'm guessing they rationalize using the "undecideds always break towards the challenger" myth.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7314 on: October 26, 2012, 03:16:11 pm »

I'm not worried about Romney for Romney's sake, it's that he'll roll over and let his party implement all sorts of crazy stuff. There will be big pressure on him to fill the Supreme Court with radical conservatives so they can overturn Roe-vs-Wade and ban abortions, and stuff like that.

Will he stand up to the more radical impulses of his own party?

Why does everybody always act like overturning Roe V. Wade is the most radical aspect of the far-right's agenda?
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7315 on: October 26, 2012, 03:23:22 pm »

It's a controversial banner issue, and the original decision is, legally speaking, extremely flimsy , so it's not hard to find reasoning to overturn it. Thus, it is the most public of judicial issues.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7316 on: October 26, 2012, 03:26:43 pm »

Plus the 5000 deaths a year from illegal abortions the United States used to have, and the population was about half of the present level. So it's definitely an issue that can kill people.

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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7317 on: October 26, 2012, 03:28:09 pm »

Why does everybody always act like overturning Roe V. Wade is the most radical aspect of the far-right's agenda?
Stop.  I have already seen the future this post leads us to, and I cannot allow it to happen again.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7318 on: October 26, 2012, 03:31:53 pm »


Stop.
Hammertime!

But yeah we just averted an abortion clusterfuck recently. That way the dark side lies.
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Re: American Election Megathread
« Reply #7319 on: October 26, 2012, 04:16:55 pm »

Abortion threads kill.
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