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Title: LOTR in annoucement messages "The =Fellowship= of the ☼Ring☼"
Post by: Karnewarrior on April 14, 2010, 06:27:37 am
So, lying in bed last night I had a thought, which grew to an Idea, which is now a reality! Make a thread of announcements plotting the basic storyline of the LOTR. It's just that simple! We will start with the hobbit, and move on until we get to the Return of the King, and then I'll see if we can do another series. I'll start...

Spoiler: before (click to show/hide)
The story so far...
Spoiler: The +Hobbit+ (click to show/hide)
And then...
 
Bilbo Baggins, Hobbit, has organized a party at The Shire
The child, Frodo Baggins, has grown into a Hobbit
Hobbit cancels listen to speech: job item lost or destroyed x144
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: warhammer651 on April 14, 2010, 07:58:45 am
Bilbo Baggins, hobbit, cancels life: interrupted by dwarf
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on April 14, 2010, 08:58:50 am
Sauron cancels Seek Ring: Dangerous terrain.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: Mikko on April 14, 2010, 09:07:40 am
Just stopping by to ask: Is it supposed to be in chronological order?
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: Vester on April 14, 2010, 09:08:35 am
Maybe someone could arrange them later?
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: Hishan on April 14, 2010, 09:26:58 am
Gandalf "The Grey" cancels Cross bridge : Dangerous terrain
The Balrog has been struck down
Gandalf "The Grey" cancels rest : too injured
Gandalf "The Grey" has bled to death
Gandalf "The Grey" has become a white wizard

Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: SanDiego on April 14, 2010, 09:50:56 am
Nazgűls cancel store One ring in Mordor: job item lost or destroyed
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: Hairywoodenleg on April 14, 2010, 09:57:02 am
Bilbo Baggins, hobbit, cancels life: interrupted by dwarfx13

Fixed
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: Karnewarrior on April 14, 2010, 12:00:28 pm
acctually, they are supposed to be in chronological order. Sorry I wasn't specific enough, it was 6:40 and I was rushing to get ready for school. I would like you to post a job (or at least a race) too. Thank'ee kindly.
Anyways,

Thorin, Dwarf cancels eat meal: Item Unavailible
Bombur, Tubby, has grown to become a Fatso
the Hobbit collapses from exaustion!
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: Kavalion on April 14, 2010, 12:03:43 pm
Denethor cancels stewardship:  Went Insane.
Denethor went berserk!
Faramir cancels Rest Injury:  Interrupted by Denethor.
Faramir has burst into flames!
Denethor has burst into flames!
Pippin cancels Recover Wounded:  Interrupted by Denethor.
Denethor has died in the heat.
Faramir cancels Die: Issuing Mandate
The Steward has mandated the death of a few million orcs.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: Hishan on April 14, 2010, 12:16:17 pm
Denethor cancels stewardship:  Went Insane.
Denethor went berserk!
Faramir cancels Rest Injury:  Interrupted by Denethor.
Faramir has burst into flames!
Denethor has burst into flames!
Pippin cancels Recover Wounded:  Interrupted by Denethor.
Denethor has died in the heat.
Faramir cancels Die: Issuing Mandate
The Steward has mandated the death of a few million orcs.

Oh thats quite, quite brilliant
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: Karnewarrior on April 14, 2010, 12:20:54 pm
Denethor cancels stewardship:  Went Insane.
Denethor went berserk!
Faramir cancels Rest Injury:  Interrupted by Denethor.
Faramir has burst into flames!
Denethor has burst into flames!
Pippin cancels Recover Wounded:  Interrupted by Denethor.
Denethor has died in the heat.
Faramir cancels Die: Issuing Mandate
The Steward has mandated the death of a few million orcs.

Oh thats quite, quite brilliant
Though not in chronological order with the rest of this thread. I'm sure someone will quote this at that time, however.

Gandalf "The Grey", Wizard, has organized a party at the Green Dragon Inn
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: Hishan on April 14, 2010, 12:21:54 pm
Frodo, hobbit, cancels dump item : iterrupted by Nazgul x9
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: Dakk on April 14, 2010, 12:23:52 pm
Gandalf, wizard, cancels search: Interrupted by hobbit.
Peregrin Tűk cancels hold staff: Job item lost or destroyed.
A vile force of darkness has arrived!
The wooden door was destroyed by a cave troll.
Gimli, axedwarf, cancels mourn: Interrupted by cave troll.
Aragorn, swordsman, cancels search: Interrupted by cave troll.
Boromir, swordsman, cancels search: Interrupted by cave troll.
Frodo, swordhobbit, cancels search: Interrupted by cave troll.
Legolas, elf ranger, cancels search: Interrupted by cave troll.
Gimli, axedwarf, has entered martial trance!
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: Sizik on April 14, 2010, 12:27:02 pm
Gollum cancels Get Ring: Job Item Lost or Destroyed.
A Hobbit has stolen a ☼gold ring☼!
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: RandomNumberGenerator on April 14, 2010, 12:59:50 pm
Are we doing LOTR or The Hobbit?

An Ambush! Curse them!
Bilbo cancels travel: Interrupted by Goblin.
Goblin x30 cancels hunt: Can not find path.
A wolf has burned to death.
A goblin has burned to death.
Goblin starts singing x29

Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: Lawec on April 14, 2010, 01:25:05 pm
You stab the Hobbit with your Nazgul Dagger!
It is stuck!
You twist the Nazgul Dagger!
The Hobbit gives in to pain.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: Karnewarrior on April 14, 2010, 01:29:26 pm
Are we doing LOTR or The Hobbit?

An Ambush! Curse them!
Bilbo cancels travel: Interrupted by Goblin.
Goblin x30 cancels hunt: Can not find path.
A wolf has burned to death.
A goblin has burned to death.
Goblin starts singing x29


the hobbit, and in chronological order, even though no one is listening.
HINT HINT WINK WINK NUDGE NUDGE >:(
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: Ultimuh on April 14, 2010, 01:37:56 pm
Are we doing LOTR or The Hobbit?

An Ambush! Curse them!
Bilbo cancels travel: Interrupted by Goblin.
Goblin x30 cancels hunt: Can not find path.
A wolf has burned to death.
A goblin has burned to death.
Goblin starts singing x29


the hobbit, and in chronological order, even though no one is listening.
HINT HINT WINK WINK NUDGE NUDGE >:(

I guess they have too much fun to actually follow the plot.  ;D
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: thvaz on April 14, 2010, 01:47:32 pm
Gríma, wormtongue, slash the wizard in the neck from behind with his -steel dagger-, tearing apart the muscle.
An artery has been opened by the strike!
Saruman, wizard, cancels speak: too injured.
Saruman, wizard, has bled to death.
Gríma, wormtongue, cancels fleeing: too injured.
Gríma, wormtongue, was shot and killed.
Samwise Gamgee, gardener, was elected mayor.
Samwise Gamgee, mayor, has organized a party at Party Tree.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: Mr_Bucket_Hat on April 14, 2010, 01:52:34 pm
Bilbo cancels pickpocket: Caught by Troll.
Troll cancels interrogation: Interuppted by Dwarf.
Dwarf cancels Search: Interuppted by Sack x13
Troll cancels stewing: Interupted by argument.
Troll cancels roasting: Interupted by argument.
Troll cancels squashing into jelly: interupted by sunrise.
The troll has been stoned to death.
The troll has been stoned to death.
The troll has been stoned to death.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: Karnewarrior on April 14, 2010, 01:55:30 pm
someone has to take that out of context.

The Troll has been stoned
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: Yagrum Bagarn on April 14, 2010, 02:02:30 pm
You guys'd better do what Karnewarrior says before you give the poor guy a heart attack.

I will now ignore my own advice and post something unrelated to DF.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: Hairywoodenleg on April 14, 2010, 03:37:35 pm
These should be copied into the first post in right order. I'm not sure how far we are yet, but i suppose next would be

Gollum charges Bilbo Baggins!
Bilbo Baggins dodges!
Gollum cancels chase: dangerous terrain.
Goblin cancels kill: job item lost or destroyed.
Bilbo Baggins cancels escape: stuck at door.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: NinjaE8825 on April 14, 2010, 03:38:28 pm
This is a bit earlier in the timeline than Karnewarrior began, but it's very dorfy, so I'm putting it in anyway. :p
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: Karnewarrior on April 14, 2010, 04:02:01 pm
These should be copied into the first post in right order. I'm not sure how far we are yet, but i suppose next would be

Gollum charges Bilbo Baggins!
Bilbo Baggins dodges!
Gollum cancels chase: dangerous terrain.
Goblin cancels kill: job item lost or destroyed.
Bilbo Baggins cancels escape: stuck at door.
This is good. I will do so.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: RandomNumberGenerator on April 22, 2010, 02:28:02 pm
Huh. I tried to post chrolilogically, but I may have skipped ahead a bit. My part was supposed to be when the goblisn ambush the party, they all scramble up trees, then gandalf throws burning pinecones down.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Lord Shonus on April 22, 2010, 02:42:11 pm
You have discovered a cave entrance.
Thorin Oakenshield, Dwarf, has become attached to Orcrist, an artifact Long Sword!
Gandalf "The Grey", Wizard has become attached to Glamdring, an artifact Long Sword
Bilbo Baggins, Burglar, ahs become attached to an unnamed artifact dagger!
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Karnewarrior on April 22, 2010, 03:21:15 pm
Huh. I tried to post chrolilogically, but I may have skipped ahead a bit. My part was supposed to be when the goblisn ambush the party, they all scramble up trees, then gandalf throws burning pinecones down.
Errr.. ??? humm.... ::) I have some foggy recollection of that. I'll see if I can fit you in.

You have discovered a cave entrance.
Thorin Oakenshield, Dwarf, has become attached to Orcrist, an artifact Long Sword!
Gandalf "The Grey", Wizard has become attached to Glamdring, an artifact Long Sword
Bilbo Baggins, Burglar, ahs become attached to an unnamed artifact dagger!
Gonna put this in too.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Tahin on April 22, 2010, 03:29:07 pm
These are pretty brilliant, but I suggest they be moved to a wiki page or something so the order is easier to clean up.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Lord Shonus on April 22, 2010, 03:33:59 pm
You have discovered a hidden valley full of elves.
Elrond Half-Elven, Elf has organized a party at *Oak Table*
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages
Post by: Arkenstone on April 22, 2010, 03:44:19 pm
This all reminds me of my unfinished Hobbit in DF thread... (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=40894.msg723639#msg723639)

Gríma, wormtongue, slash the wizard in the neck from behind with his -steel dagger-, tearing apart the muscle.
An artery has been opened by the strike!
Saruman, wizard, cancels speak: too injured.
Saruman, wizard, has bled to death.
Gríma, wormtongue, cancels fleeing: too injured.
Gríma, wormtongue, was shot and killed.
Samwise Gamgee, gardener, was elected mayor.
Samwise Gamgee, mayor, has organized a party at Party Tree.

Um, Saruman cut down the party tree...

Also,
Bilbo cancels pickpocket: Caught by Troll.
Troll cancels interrogation: Interuppted by Dwarf.
Dwarf cancels Search: Interuppted by Sack x13
Troll cancels stewing: Interupted by argument.
Troll cancels roasting: Interupted by argument.
Troll cancels squashing into jelly: interupted by sunrise.
The troll has been stoned to death.
The troll has been stoned to death.
The troll has been stoned to death.
You have discovered a cave entrance.
Thorin Oakenshield, Dwarf, has become attached to Orcrist, an artifact Long Sword!
Gandalf "The Grey", Wizard has become attached to Glamdring, an artifact Long Sword
Bilbo Baggins, Burglar, has become attached to an unnamed artifact dagger!

Shouldn't that last part wait until they fight the goblins later?  And the spiders, in the case of sting (which wasn't an artifact to begin with; but Bilbo later gave it a name, and hence semi-artifactship).
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Soadreqm on April 22, 2010, 04:10:32 pm
"Gollum", Slinker cancels answer riddle: Hunting vermin for food.
"Gollum", Slinker cancels pickup equipment: Job item lost or destroyed.
"Gollum", Slinker is throwing a tantrum.


I can't remember what the colors are supposed to be. :(
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Squirrelloid on April 22, 2010, 05:16:21 pm
People, do try to keep faithful to the books, not the movie.  Saruman was stabbed in his sleep, and 'off camera'.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:17:25 pm
The gobbos and wolves happened way after the trolls.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Lord Shonus on April 22, 2010, 05:22:00 pm
People, do try to keep faithful to the books, not the movie.  Saruman was stabbed in his sleep, and 'off camera'.

No, Grima slit his throat from behind on the doorstep of Bag End. It was Lotho Sackville-Baggins who was stabbed in his sleep "off-camera" and implied to be eaten by wormtounge.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Squirrelloid on April 22, 2010, 05:41:53 pm
People, do try to keep faithful to the books, not the movie.  Saruman was stabbed in his sleep, and 'off camera'.

No, Grima slit his throat from behind on the doorstep of Bag End. It was Lotho Sackville-Baggins who was stabbed in his sleep "off-camera" and implied to be eaten by wormtounge.

You sure?  Now I have to go re-read it.  I will bow to your more immediate knowledge if this is so. 
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:42:59 pm
People, do try to keep faithful to the books, not the movie.  Saruman was stabbed in his sleep, and 'off camera'.

No, Grima slit his throat from behind on the doorstep of Bag End. It was Lotho Sackville-Baggins who was stabbed in his sleep "off-camera" and implied to be eaten by wormtounge.

You sure?  Now I have to go re-read it.  I will bow to your more immediate knowledge if this is so.
Lord Shonus is correct.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: SIGVARDR on April 22, 2010, 05:44:12 pm
I'm just about done re-reading lotr for the umpteenth time,and i don't remember wormtongue being a cannibal.Then again i never really paid much attention to the shire parts.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Org on April 22, 2010, 05:45:37 pm
I'm just about done re-reading lotr for the umpteenth time,and i don't remember wormtongue being a cannibal.Then again i never really paid much attention to the shire parts.
He ate him.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: SIGVARDR on April 22, 2010, 05:47:22 pm
Well that's fairly messed up.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Lord Shonus on April 22, 2010, 05:58:22 pm
Here's the relevant passage:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Karnewarrior on April 22, 2010, 06:02:22 pm
Ninja'd.
Well, my post is now irrelavant. Back to the... Message spam.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: SIGVARDR on April 22, 2010, 06:03:36 pm
I never doubted what you said,still,thanks for linking the passage.Almost thought he might have been redeemable at some point:Can definitely say not anymore.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Squirrelloid on April 22, 2010, 06:46:35 pm
Ok, re-read, i stand corrected.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Karnewarrior on April 22, 2010, 06:50:08 pm
Bilbo Baggins Cancels be useful: Interuppted by Cave Spider

Am I still holding true to the storyline? I havn't read the hobbit in years.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: monk12 on April 22, 2010, 07:05:31 pm
Bilbo Baggins Cancels be useful: Interuppted by Cave Spider

Am I still holding true to the storyline? I havn't read the hobbit in years.

Just noting that, unless I'm mistaken, you mixed up the chronology of the trolls and the goblins. Trolls came first, then they crossed the mountains and had all kinds of goblin shenanigans, and that was followed by the elf/barrel thing. But yeah, I haven't read it in a long time either.  In fact...
 
Monk12 Cancels Post: Interrupted by Novel
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: atomfullerene on April 22, 2010, 07:09:07 pm
And Bilbo got them out of the mess with the spiders, it was one of the first times he was really useful in the book.

I'm not very good at DF announcement speak, but the dwarves arriving at Beorn's place reminds me of an immigrant wave.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Lord Shonus on April 22, 2010, 08:19:45 pm
The hobbit went like this:

Unexpected Party-Trolls-Ambshed by goblins-Escape goblins-Riddles in the dark-Escape gollum-Escape goblins and wolves-Beorn-Mirkwood-Spiders-Improsioned by wood Elves-river ride-Lake town-Smaug-Battle of Five armies-Return Home
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Squirrelloid on April 22, 2010, 08:57:38 pm
Not much of a hobbit fan, but since we already have a bunch of LotR stuff:

The Nazgul The Witchking of Angmar has come!
The King's Guard cancels protect King, overcome by Terror xN
Theoden, King cancels kill goblin, unconscious
Snowmane cancels stand up, landed on by Fell Beast
Fell Beast cancels eat, interrupted by Dernhelm
Dernhelm, Kinsman cancels store item in stockpile, interrupted by The Witchking of Angmar
Dernhelm has become an Eowyn!
Eowyn, Shieldmaiden has begun a conversation with The Witchking of Angmar.
Witchking of Angmar has become upset at the defacing of a masterpiece prophecy!
Fell Beast has been struck down!
The Witchking of Angmar has become upset at the death of a pet!
The Witchking of Angmar is throwing a tantrum!
The Witchking of Angmar cancels kill Eowyn, interrupted by Meriadoc.
Eowyn, Shieldmaiden has entered a martial trance!
The Witchking of Angmar has been struck down!
Eowyn, Shieldmaiden cancels aid Theoden, unconscious
Meriadoc, Hobbit Squire cancels aid Theoden, interrupted by Snowmane
Theoden has been struck down!
Eomer has become King of Rohan

Edit: Now with color! (I think I have these right)

More Edit: oh right, titles!
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: bmaczero on April 22, 2010, 10:22:58 pm
This is brilliant  :D.  I'm picking up with the gobbos here:

Dwarven Adventurer cancels travel: Interrupted by storm x13
You have discovered a cavern.
A thief has stolen a Stray Pony (tame)!
Bilbo Baggins, Burglar cancels Sleep: Interrupted by Goblin Snatcher
An ambush!  Curse them!
A Goblin Snatcher has been fried by lightning. x5
A Wizard has sprung from ambush!
The Great Goblin cancels Interrogate: Interrupted by Orcrist "Biter", Goblin-cleaver.
The Great Goblin has mandated the death of certain dwarves.
Goblin Underling cancels Kill: Interrupted by Wizard. x40
Goblin Underling has gone stark raving mad! x40
The Great Goblin has been struck down.
An ambush!  Curse them!
Bilbo Baggins, Burglar cancels Escape: Unconcious


There's a lot of cancel spam in this story :P.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: bmaczero on April 22, 2010, 10:42:08 pm
Still bored...

You have discovered a great lake beneath the mountain.
Bilbo Baggins, Burglar cancels Explore: Interrupted by Gollum.
Bilbo Baggins, Burglar is more experienced.
Gollum cancels Pickup Equipment: Job item lost or destroyed.
Gollum has become enraged!
Bilbo Baggins, Burglar cancels Flee: Tripped
Gollum cancels Kill: Job item lost or destroyed.
A thief has stolen a ☼Gold Ring☼!
Bilbo Baggins, Burglar has become an enemy of Gollum.
Goblin Guard cancels Train: Interrupted by Burglar x15
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Lord Shonus on April 22, 2010, 11:28:24 pm
A Goblin Snatcher has been fried by lightning. x5
The Great Goblin cancels Interrogate: Interrupted by Orcrist "Biter", Goblin-cleaver.

I would suggest changing this line to:

A Wizard has Sprung From Ambush
"The Great", Goblin cancels Interrogate: Interrupted by wizard.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Odd!x on April 23, 2010, 01:54:16 am
Thorin has begun a conversation with Beorn.
Thorin cancels converse: interrupted by dwarf x 2
Thorin has begun a conversation with Beorn.
Thorin cancels converse: interrupted by dwarf x 2
Beorn is rapidly losing patience
Thorin has begun a conversation with Beorn.
Thorin cancels converse: interrupted by dwarf x 2
Beorn has become enraged!

color/exact wording may be inaccurate :P
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: bmaczero on April 23, 2010, 08:28:51 am
Good idea, Shonus, done.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Solarn on April 23, 2010, 10:46:53 am
Not much of a hobbit fan, but since we already have a bunch of LotR stuff:

The Nazgul The Witchking of Angmar has come!
The King's Guard cancels protect King, overcome by Terror xN
Theoden cancels kill goblin, unconscious
Snowmane cancels stand up, landed on by Fell Beast
Fell Beast cancels eat, interrupted by Dernhelm
Dernhelm cancels store item in stockpile, interrupted by The Witchking of Angmar
Dernhelm has become an Eowyn!
Eowyn has begun a conversation with The Witchking of Angmar.
Witchking of Angmar has become upset at the defacing of a masterpiece prophecy!
Fell Beast has been struck down!
The Witchking of Angmar has become upset at the death of a pet!
The Witchking of Angmar is throwing a tantrum!
Eowyn has entered a martial trance!
The Witchking of Angmar has been struck down!
Eowyn cancels aid Theoden, unconscious
Meriadoc cancels aid Theoden, interrupted by Snowmane
Theoden has been struck down!
Eomer has become King of Rohan

Edit: Now with color! (I think I have these right)
You do realize it was Merry, not Eowyn, who struck down the Witch-King, right?
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Dr. Johbson on April 23, 2010, 11:03:16 am
I love this thread entirely too much.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Anfold on April 23, 2010, 11:08:04 am
You do realize it was Merry, not Eowyn, who struck down the Witch-King, right?

No, it was Eowyn who killed him, when Merry stabbed him was enough of a distraction to let her get the killing blow. Also, someone might want to mention the paralysis effect that happens to anyone who stabs Angmmar.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Squirrelloid on April 23, 2010, 11:21:16 am
You do realize it was Merry, not Eowyn, who struck down the Witch-King, right?

No, it was Eowyn who killed him, when Merry stabbed him was enough of a distraction to let her get the killing blow. Also, someone might want to mention the paralysis effect that happens to anyone who stabs Angmmar.

QFT.  That whole 'no living man may hinder me' stuff wasn't just for show.  Pretty sure Meriadoc counts as a 'man' for the purposes of the prophecy.  Only Eowyn *can* kill him.

The paralysis effect doesn't really fit into the announcements very well.  Similarly, I tried inserting something about merry stabbing him, but announcements don't give blow-by-blow combat descriptions.

Ah, found a way to insert the latter!
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Satarus on April 23, 2010, 11:36:36 am
Meriadoc is a man (gender), but not a Man (race).
Eowyn is not a man (gender) but is a Man (race). 

Both of them together kill the witch king.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Squirrelloid on April 23, 2010, 11:40:47 am
Meriadoc is a man (gender), but not a Man (race).
Eowyn is not a man (gender) but is a Man (race). 

Both of them together kill the witch king.

Tolkien pretty explicitly means gender here.  I mean, not only does the dialog support that interpretation, but the race interpretation is pretty worthless in a world where there are elves, dwarves, and dunedain, in addition to hobbits.  The Witchking wouldn't be nearly so confident nor the prophecy relevant if all you had to do was find a non-Man (race).
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Satarus on April 23, 2010, 11:48:44 am
I'm just saying both loopholes were covered in his death.  A hobbit and a woman worked together to kill the witch king.  Tolkien wrote that whole part because he thought McDuff being born by caesarean birth was a cop-out.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Soadreqm on April 23, 2010, 11:54:48 am
"Merry" Brandybuck, swordshobbit strikes the Witch-King of Angmar to the left knee from behind, cutting the magic through the steel leggings!
"Merry" Brandybuck, swordshobbit gives in to pain.
The large dagger shatters!
The Witch-King of Angmar gives in to pain.
Éowyn, swordswoman strikes the Witch-King of Angmar to the head, shattering the magic!
The Witch-King of Angmar has been struck down!
Éowyn, swordswoman gives in to pain.


And yeah, Merry was too man to kill the Witch-King. It was a prophecy, anyway, so it might be less that a man can't kill him and more that Éowyn is destined to. Never trust prophecies, they'll screw you over at the worst possible time.

And of course there's nothing mentioned about seriously maiming him or burying him alive for four thousand years. Gandalf seemed pretty confident about facing him before they were distracted.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Supermikhail on April 23, 2010, 12:41:55 pm
Has this already been posted?:

Goblin cancels gloat: Job item lost or misplaced x48
Warg cancels howl: Job item lost or misplaced x43
Gandalf "The Grey" has begun a conversation with a Eagle Lord.



Is there an announcement for a conversation ending?
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Solarn on April 23, 2010, 12:55:07 pm
You do realize it was Merry, not Eowyn, who struck down the Witch-King, right?

No, it was Eowyn who killed him, when Merry stabbed him was enough of a distraction to let her get the killing blow. Also, someone might want to mention the paralysis effect that happens to anyone who stabs Angmmar The Witch-King (Angmar is the place he's from, not who he is).
Strange. I dug out my English copy of LoTR, and you're apparently right. I always remembered it being Merry, which would have made the entire thing so much cooler.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Squirrelloid on April 23, 2010, 01:18:02 pm
"Merry" Brandybuck, swordshobbit strikes the Witch-King of Angmar to the left knee from behind, cutting the magic through the steel leggings!
"Merry" Brandybuck, swordshobbit gives in to pain.
The large dagger shatters!
The Witch-King of Angmar gives in to pain.
Éowyn, swordswoman strikes the Witch-King of Angmar to the head, shattering the magic!
The Witch-King of Angmar has been struck down!
Éowyn, swordswoman gives in to pain.


And yeah, Merry was too man to kill the Witch-King. It was a prophecy, anyway, so it might be less that a man can't kill him and more that Éowyn is destined to. Never trust prophecies, they'll screw you over at the worst possible time.

And of course there's nothing mentioned about seriously maiming him or burying him alive for four thousand years. Gandalf seemed pretty confident about facing him before they were distracted.

Now with combat logs!  Clearly we need little red Cs on the margins of the text, hyperlinked to the relevant combat logs.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Solarn on April 23, 2010, 01:33:30 pm
And of course there's nothing mentioned about seriously maiming him or burying him alive for four thousand years. Gandalf seemed pretty confident about facing him before they were distracted.
Then again, it's entirely possible that Gandalf is above prophecies, seeing as he is one of the maiar.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Solifuge on April 23, 2010, 01:49:17 pm
Highly entertaining read.

As a point of interest, these are the tags for ◄MAGIC ITEM►, as listed in the raws. I'd suggest adding them to the old elven swords, the One Ring, etc.

But yes, highly entertaining, peeps.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Supermikhail on April 23, 2010, 01:53:16 pm
I've once heard on the radio that Tolkien was very... Christian. And in Christianity nothing much is above prophecies (I'm pointing at the Apocalypse).
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Solarn on April 23, 2010, 03:02:40 pm
I've once heard on the radio that Tolkien was very... Christian. And in Christianity nothing much is above prophecies (I'm pointing at the Apocalypse).
I've once read on the internet that Tolkien was crazy and LoTR was a way of escaping reality for him. Your point is?

Besides, Arda is as far removed from Christianity as possible. Whatever Tolkien's own beliefs were, he clearly didn't feel the need to burden his creation with them.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Soadreqm on April 23, 2010, 04:05:42 pm
Yeah, Tolkien was a reasonably devout catholic, pals with C.S. Lewis, and drew a lot of stuff from Christian mythology among other things. I don't think that had much to do with his prophecies, especially considering everyone already knows he took that bit from Shakespeare. :)

Elsewhere in the setting, though, it seems that people take that kind of thing seriously. Fëanor's sons swore their oath in the name of Ilúvatar, and Manwe couldn't release them from it. When Morgoth cursed Húrin, it stuck. Holy oaths and such were presumably binding unless otherwise stated. That said, Gandalf probably could have taken the Witch-king in combat, but as per the prophecy, they never fight.

Now, because I like to at least pretend I'm staying on topic, and can't remember the bits that come next in Hobbit, my rendition of the ring destroying scene:
Frodo Baggins, Ringbearer cancels dump item: Went insane.
Frodo Baggins, Ringbearer has decided to keep the Ring!
Frodo Baggins, Ringbearer has become invisible.
Frodo Baggins, Ringbearer cancels megalomania: Interrupted by "Gollum".
Frodo Baggins, Ringbearer cancels megalomania: Resting injury.
Frodo Baggins, Ringbearer is no longer invisible.
"Gollum" has organized a party at the magma forge.
"Gollum" cancels attend party: Dangerous terrain.
"Gollum" has died in the heat!
"The Master Ring", a legendary artifact has been destroyed!
Sauron, Dark lord has been struck down.
A flock of eagles has arrived.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Lord Shonus on April 23, 2010, 04:37:23 pm
You have discovered a river
Bombur, Fatso, has fallen into a river
Bombur, Fatso, cancels travel: Exhausted x999
Dwarf cancels attend party: Cannot find path x50
Dwarf cancels travel:webbed x12
Giant Forest Spider cancels eat: Interrupted by burglar
The burglar stabs the Giant Forest Spider in the eyes with his ◄Elven Dagger►
The burglar stabs the Giant Forest Spider in the body with his ◄Elven Dagger►
The Giant Forest Spider has been struck down!
The burglar has bestowed the name Sting on his ◄Elven Dagger►!
The spinning small rock strikes the Giant Forest Spider in the head, bruising it!
The Giant Forest Spider has passed out from the pain!
The spinning small rock strikes the Giant Forest Spider in the body, shattering it!
The Giant Forest Spider has been struck down!
Giant Forest Spider cancels eat: Interrupted by Burglar x20
Giant Forest Spider cancels eat: Interrupted by Voices x20
The Giant Forest Spider had Become Enraged! x20
The Giant Forest Spider has been struck down! x10
Giant Forest Spider cancels kill: Interrupted by Voices x20
Bilbo Baggins, Burglar has entered a martial trance!
Giant Cave Spider cancels kill burglar: Too afraid
Dwarf Cancels Flee: Interrupted by Elf x12

Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Arkenstone on April 23, 2010, 04:40:51 pm
I've once heard on the radio that Tolkien was very... Christian. And in Christianity nothing much is above prophecies (I'm pointing at the Apocalypse).
I've once read on the internet that Tolkien was crazy and LoTR was a way of escaping reality for him. Your point is?

Besides, Arda is as far removed from Christianity as possible. Whatever Tolkien's own beliefs were, he clearly didn't feel the need to burden his creation with them.
Actually, Tolkien's mythology is almost completely compatible with Christianity.  The Silmarillion was written from the elven point of view, which has a few interesting points in it:

1.  The elves don't have a religion, because they already understood who made the world go 'round.
2.  Said creator (Ilúvatar, which has the same connotations in Elvish as "the Lord" does in English) is an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent being whose nature is not explained in the book, except that He was beyond ANYONE'S comprehension (even that of the Valar!)
3.  This being created the Valar to please Him; and so too Arda (the earth).
4.  The greatest of the Valar and therefore the second-most powerful being in existence was Melkor, but he rebelled and was later named Morgoth.
5.  Many of the Valar then entered Arda to serve inside it; they were later mistaken for gods by men.
6.  The elves were called the first-born children of Ilúvatar, Men were the second.
7.  The elves were completely contained inside the bounds of the world, and therefore were immortal (e.g. they couldn't leave if they wanted to, and the weight of the world was indeed heavy upon them).
8.  Men were given the gift of being able to leave the world itself, (aka die) but Morgoth misled them to believe that that was a curse. (Seriously, if life sucks so much, why would you not want to leave?)
9.  The final fate of man was not known to the elves, but they said it may be revealed to men somewhere else. (aka the Bible)

So if you think about it, Tolkien did a really good job at getting pagan mythology to fit into christian religious teachings.  Every moral lesson, for instance, actually coincides with age-old christian values.



And as for the dwarves...
      The 7 fathers of the dwarves were created by Aulë, (see below) who was impatient with the emptiness of the world in the time before the elves awoke.  He wasn't supposed to do that.  Besides, the dwarves were as lacking of life as Toady's, only being able to act as and when ordained.  Ilúvatar, who of course knew what was going on, came down and confronted Aulë; who repented, offering to destroy his creation.  The dwarves were cowering, and from that it was known that they had, in fact, been given life.  However, they were then put to sleep and hidden in different places under the mountains, to await the time of their awakening: after elves but before man.

Now, Aulë was one of the most similar of the Valar to Melkor, with the important difference of remaining loyal.  He was the smith of the Valar, crafting things merely to create them, and giving them away freely afterwords.

A very *interesting* fact is that his wife is Yavanna, who created TREES and asked for the creation of the Ents to guard them.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Supermikhail on April 24, 2010, 12:44:37 am
Quote
The 7 fathers of the dwarves were created by Aulë, (see below) who was impatient with the emptiness of the world in the time before the elves awoke.  He wasn't supposed to do that.  Besides, the dwarves were as lacking of life as Toady's, only being able to act as and when ordained.  Ilúvatar, who of course knew what was going on, came down and confronted Aulë; who repented, offering to destroy his creation.  The dwarves were cowering, and from that it was known that they had, in fact, been given life.  However, they were then put to sleep and hidden in different places under the mountains, to await the time of their awakening: after elves but before man.

Now I want Toady to implement a mechanic where

You've discovered dwarven brothers! Praise the miners!
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: smokingwreckage on April 24, 2010, 01:49:52 am
What if you found a glowing pit, that echoed with the remembered ring of hammer on anvil, and in it was a stone slab with a sleeping legendary dwarven ancestor?

HOLY CRAP.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Solarn on April 24, 2010, 02:11:27 am
What if you found a glowing pit, that echoed with the remembered ring of hammer on anvil, and in it was a stone slab with a sleeping legendary dwarven ancestor?

HOLY CRAP.
Then you'd be boned because you somehow tunneled under the Undying Lands, into Aulë's workshop and the Valar are going to destroy your whole continent as punishment.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Acanthus117 on April 24, 2010, 02:32:34 am
Nah, you can just stop them with magma. and cage traps mixed with artificial cave-ins for knockout effect. Just make sure you don't accidentally release them, or you're truly boned.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Soadreqm on April 24, 2010, 02:36:28 am
Oh, come on, they only did that once! Well, twice, if you count the time they fought Morgoth and the collateral damage sunk half of Middle-Earth. Anyway, they weren't exactly in the habit of sinking continents.

Also, Aulë created seven starting dwarves? HOLY CRAP! :o
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Solarn on April 24, 2010, 02:38:26 am
Oh, come on, they only did that once! Well, twice, if you count the time they fought Morgoth and the collateral damage sunk half of Middle-Earth. Anyway, they weren't exactly in the habit of sinking continents.

Also, Aulë created seven starting dwarves? HOLY CRAP! :o
Yes, but their forceful-intrusion-into-Aman to continent-destruction ratio is 1/1, so if you extrapolate from that...
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Supermikhail on April 24, 2010, 02:40:59 am
Also, Aulë created seven starting dwarves? HOLY CRAP! :o

I just had a "natural discovery" moment, then remembered that both Silmarillion and Dwarf Fortress were created by human beings...
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Odd!x on April 24, 2010, 02:42:51 am
hi ho, hi ho, it's off to cliche we go... ;D
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: CptFastbreak on April 24, 2010, 03:09:06 am
insightful stuff

There's not nothing much to add to that, only that C.S. Lewis was not a Christian to begin with, he semi-converted after heavy proselytizing from Tolkien - but to Anglicanicism, and then married a divorced woman. Because of Tolkien's Catholicism, this put quite a strain on their friendship. You can read all this up in H. Carpenter - "J.R.R. Tolkien - A Biography" and H. Carpenter - "The Inklings". God, I feel nerdy right now.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Supermikhail on April 24, 2010, 03:19:12 am
hi ho, hi ho, it's off to cliche we go... ;D
Why?... Number 7 isn't a cliché, it's a reality of European+ culture.

insightful stuff

There's not nothing much to add to that, only that C.S. Lewis was not a Christian to begin with, he semi-converted after heavy proselytizing from Tolkien - but to Anglicanicism, and then married a divorced woman. Because of Tolkien's Catholicism, this put quite a strain on their friendship. You can read all this up in H. Carpenter - "J.R.R. Tolkien - A Biography" and H. Carpenter - "The Inklings". God, I feel nerdy right now.

It's strange to think that in my Christian days (and younger (=dumber), at that) I considered The Chronicles of Narnia a staple of Christianity in fiction, and the Lord of the Rings - idle musings on the verge of heresy. By strange I mean, when you relate the works to their authors.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Rainforce on April 24, 2010, 04:48:16 am
insightful stuff

There's not nothing much to add to that, only that C.S. Lewis was not a Christian to begin with, he semi-converted after heavy proselytizing from Tolkien - but to Anglicanicism, and then married a divorced woman. Because of Tolkien's Catholicism, this put quite a strain on their friendship. You can read all this up in H. Carpenter - "J.R.R. Tolkien - A Biography" and H. Carpenter - "The Inklings". God, I feel nerdy right now.
wrong double-negation? wouldn't it be "There's not much to add to that, only that [etc]" or something O.o?
the sentence itself indicates that either "there's absolutely nothing to add to that"[thereby denying itself for the second part]  or "There's much to add to that" [and that's also not the case]
so what?XD
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: CptFastbreak on April 24, 2010, 08:28:54 am
There's not nothing much to add to that
wrong double-negation? wouldn't it be "There's not much to add to that, only that [etc]" or something O.o?

True, it's a typo, should just be "nothing much to add".
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Arkenstone on April 24, 2010, 09:04:19 am
Quote
The 7 fathers of the dwarves were created by Aulë, (see below) who was impatient with the emptiness of the world in the time before the elves awoke.  He wasn't supposed to do that.  Besides, the dwarves were as lacking of life as Toady's, only being able to act as and when ordained.  Ilúvatar, who of course knew what was going on, came down and confronted Aulë; who repented, offering to destroy his creation.  The dwarves were cowering, and from that it was known that they had, in fact, been given life.  However, they were then put to sleep and hidden in different places under the mountains, to await the time of their awakening: after elves but before man.

Now I want Toady to implement a mechanic where

You've discovered dwarven brothers! Praise the miners!
What if you found a glowing pit, that echoed with the remembered ring of hammer on anvil, and in it was a stone slab with a sleeping legendary dwarven ancestor?

HOLY CRAP.
Now, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!

I think that if you find something like that, he'd be Legendary +10 (!) with 5000 in every stat.  He'll immediately replace your civ's king and from then on act like a useful noble.

Of course, you may just find the tomb of such a dwarf; the end result of that would be much more Fun!

Maybe we should start a suggestion thread...
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: JoshBrickstien on May 01, 2010, 02:03:32 am
I'll hop in, in plot line, and in the Hobbit.  ;)

In the field is the wizard Gandalf, and dwarves in clearing. The dwarves and Gandalf are arguing.

Gandalf Cancels Argue: Interrupted by Burglar
Dwarf Cancels Argue: Interrupted by Burglar x13
A Hobbit is no longer in hiding
Group Cancels Talk: Interrupted by Goblins

Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Supermikhail on May 01, 2010, 02:51:30 am
Uh, it's all wrong, it's all messed up!
Alright, whoever comes here next does the elven fortress and barrels! >:(
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: ed boy on May 01, 2010, 04:16:52 am
This might help - a PDF of the hobbit.
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fazimro.googlepages.com%2FLordoftheRings-TheHobbit.pdf&ei=zcK2Sr65Foyy8Qakj6yTDw&rct=j&q=hobbit+e-book&usg=AFQjCNGvjqaahHXtjE11jxBVeN5M5jtVAQ

Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: JoshBrickstien on May 01, 2010, 02:21:10 pm
Uh, it's all wrong, it's all messed up!
Alright, whoever comes here next does the elven fortress and barrels! >:(

I have my copy of the book here.
Misty mountains first, then the eagles, Beorn, then mirkwood, the spiders, THEN the elves and the barrels.  ;)
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Supermikhail on May 01, 2010, 02:42:06 pm
What I meant was, if you look through this thread, all the announcements for until the elves and the barrels have been written out.
I, actually, don't have a copy at hand and am not going to be tempted by ed boy's FILES.
So, I don't know if with elves something noteworthy happens, except for

A burglar has stolen a prepared meal! x20
A burglar has stolen a prison key!
Elven guard cancels check on a prisoner: Job item lost or destroyed x12
A prisoner has escaped!x12

Uh, have no idea about the right colors.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Arkenstone on May 01, 2010, 07:42:38 pm
For those of you too lazy to read... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSHLGnexe-w&feature=PlayList&p=7E06CEB4E58F3902&playnext_from=PL&index=0&playnext=1)
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Karnewarrior on May 01, 2010, 07:49:44 pm
 :o What the hell is wrong with his eyes?!
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Supermikhail on May 02, 2010, 12:47:28 am
Update the OP, OP. >:(
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Devast on May 02, 2010, 08:28:13 am
I probably butchered this.

Ungoliante cancels eat: Item destroyed

Turin cancels rest: Interrupted by Baleg
Beleg has been struck down!

The artifact Silmaril has been lost!
Maglor has withdrawn from society

Human Kingx9 has been possessed
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Karnewarrior on May 02, 2010, 09:25:43 am
Update the OP, OP. >:(
Did he really teleport to the elves?
No. What happened on the trip?
That druid guy. Write something for that!
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Supermikhail on May 02, 2010, 10:19:20 am
You mean this?

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54284.msg1190509#msg1190509 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54284.msg1190509#msg1190509)
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54284.msg1192152#msg1192152 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=54284.msg1192152#msg1192152)
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Karnewarrior on May 02, 2010, 10:54:38 am
Updated, but I'm to lazy to pick through, so can you compile anything I missed?
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Supermikhail on May 02, 2010, 12:41:46 pm
Okay.

Before Beorn comes this:

Gandalf Cancels Argue: Interrupted by Burglar
Dwarf Cancels Argue: Interrupted by Burglar x13
A Hobbit is no longer in hiding
Group Cancels Talk: Interrupted by Goblins
After that someone has already written a thing, but I can't find it... Nevermind, it seems it was about a different thing somehow. So

An ambush! Curse them!
Goblins start singing.
Gandalf "The Grey", a wizard, launches a fire bolt! x6
A goblin cancels attend a party: Interrupted by a wizard. x53
A goblin has burned to death. x5
A warg has burned to death x8

Goblin cancels gloat: Job item lost or misplaced x48
Warg cancels howl: Job item lost or misplaced x43
Gandalf "The Grey" has begun a conversation with a Eagle Lord.
It would be nice to insert after it

Civilization Giant Eagles has become a friend of dwarves.
Civilization Giant Eagles has become a friend of Bilbo Baggins.

After that goes Beorn.

After
Beorn has become enraged
it would be sensible to insert

Beorn has calmed down.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Karnewarrior on May 02, 2010, 04:07:48 pm
Up to date. The replies can begin anew. 8)
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Supermikhail on May 18, 2010, 10:03:36 am
Hmm....

So, I've finally got my hands on a copy of The Hobbit. I haven't got past Mirkwood, in fact, barely past Beorn, but I've noticed that some events here aren't exactly correct. For example:
<...>
Bilbo Baggins, Burglar has become an enemy of Gollum.
You have discovered a Goblin Caves' Back-door!
Goblin Guard cancels Train: Interrupted by Burglar! x15[/b]
Goblin Guard cancels re-capture a prisoner: Job item lost or misplaced! x15
Goblin Guard has become confused x15
Bilbo Baggins, a hobbit, has become stuck!
Bilbo Baggins, a Hobbit, has popped out!
Goblin Guard cancels search for a prisoner: Too sun-sick! x15
Gandalf Cancels Argue: Interrupted by Burglar
Dwarf Cancels Argue: Interrupted by Burglar x13
Gandalf Cancels Argue: Interrupted by Burglar
Dwarf Cancels Argue: Interrupted by Burglar x13
A Hobbit is no longer in hiding
Group Cancels Run: Interrupted by a Warg pack
Warg cancels attend a meeting: Interrupted by a Dwarf!x13
Warg cancels attend a meeting: Interrupted by a Hobbit!
Warg cancels attend a meeting: Interrupted by a Wizard!
An ambush! Curse them!
Gandalf "The Grey", a wizard, has made a masterpiece enchanted spark-bomb! x6
Warg cancels hold council: Interrupted by magical fire! x235
Warg has become enraged! x235
A warg has burned to death x34
A warg champion has burned to death x16
An ambush! Curse them!
Group cancels mock: Interrupted by a goblin raiding party!
A goblin cancels attend a party: Interrupted by Giant Eagles. x223
Goblin cancels gloat: Job item lost or misplaced x223
Warg cancels howl: Job item lost or misplaced x185
Warg has been struck down by a Giant Eagle x13
Goblin raider has been struck down by a Giant Eagle x9
You have discovered a Giant Eagle Eyrie!
Gandalf "The Grey" has begun a conversation with a Eagle Lord.
the Civilization of Giant Eagles has become a friend of  the Lonely Mountain, a dwarven Civilization.
the Civilization of Giant Eagles has become a friend of Bilbo Baggins.
Gandalf "The Grey", a wizard, has begun a conversation with Beorn, a skin-changer.
Gandalf "The Grey", a wizard, cancels converse: interrupted by dwarf x 2
Gandalf "The Grey", a wizard, has begun a conversation with Beorn, a skin-changer.
Gandalf "The Grey", a wizard, cancels converse: interrupted by dwarf x 2
Gandalf "The Grey", a wizard, has begun a conversation with Beorn, a skin-changer.
Gandalf "The Grey", a wizard, cancels converse: interrupted by dwarf x 2
The Honey Menace, a bear war-party, has returned from a mission with success!
Beorn, a skin-changer, has become a friend of the Lonely Mountain, a dwarven Civilization.
Beorn, a skin-changer, has become a friend of Gandalf "The Grey", a wizard.
Beorn, a skin-changer, has become a friend of Bilbo Baggins, a hobbit.
The dwarven expidition has left on it's journey
<...>

At least in the 1999 paperback edition I've got here, Beorn doesn't become enraged, and is in fact, quite amused by the story.
I'm not sure who's the object and who's the subject when there is an announcement like "Bilbo Baggins, Burglar has become an enemy of Gollum.", but depending on the relationship, it may need to be changed, as Bilbo Baggins felt his famous pity towards the Gollum then.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Lord Shonus on May 19, 2010, 12:19:34 am
BIlbo being an enemy of gollum is quite correct. Gollum hates Bilbo to the extent that

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Beorn came VERY close to losing it with all the interruptions.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Supermikhail on May 19, 2010, 05:49:21 am
BIlbo being an enemy of gollum is quite correct. Gollum hates Bilbo to the extent that

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Beorn came VERY close to losing it with all the interruptions.

I meant who's whose enemy. Especially in relation to DF announcements. And whether in DF announcements it matters - can one entity be hostile to another while the opposite isn't true?

As of Beorn's rage:

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<...>"Well, now there arefifteen of you; and since goblins can count, I suppose that is all that there were up the trees. Now perhaps we can finish this story without any more interruptions." Mr Baggins saw then how clever Gandalf had been. The interruptiions had really made Beron more interested in the story, and the story had kep him from sending the dwarves off at once like suspicious beggars.
<...>"A very good tale!" said he. "The best I have heard for a long while. If all beggars could tell such a good one, they might find me kinder. You may be making it all up, of course, but you deserve a supper for the story all the same. Let's have something to eat!"
<...>

Well, to me Beorn sounds completely pleased, that is quite the opposite of enraged. I know he growls before that when the dwarves come in, but it seems to me more from impatience to hear the rest of the story than hard feelings.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Supermikhail on May 23, 2010, 06:56:10 am
It is now autumn.
A burglar has stolen a prepared meal! x20
Bilbo Baggins, a hobbit, has become more experienced!
A dwarf cancels be unhappy at imprisonment: Interrupted by a hobbit! x13
You have discovered a Elven Fortress Water-gate!
A king's butler has passed out from exhaustion.
A chief of the guard has passed out from exhaustion.
A burglar has stolen a stack of prison keys!
A prisoner has escaped! x13
A burglar has stolen a prepared meal!
Bilbo Baggins, a burglar, has become ill.
Bombur, a fatso, has passed out from exhaustion.
Dori, a dwarf, has passed out from exhaustion.
Nori, a dwarf, has passed out from exhaustion.
Ori, a dwarf, has passed out from exhaustion.
Oin, a dwarf, has passed out from exhaustion.
Gloin, a dwarf, has passed out from exhaustion.
You have discovered the Lake Town!
A Lake-town guard cancels attend a party: Interrupted by a dwarf! x10
The Lake Town Master cancels attend a party: Interrupted by a dwarf!
A Lake Town citizen cancels attend a party: Interrupted by a dwarf! x134
Thorin "Oakenshield", a dwarf, has become a legend!
The Lake Town citizens have begun a party. x15
You have discovered the Lonely Mountain!
You have discovered the Desolation of the Dragon!
You have discovered the ruins of Dale!
You have discovered the Main Gate!
A dwarf has lost spirit. x13
You have discovered the Secret Door!
Bilbo Baggins, a burglar, has become more experienced!
A dwarf has lost spirit. x13
A hobbit has lost spirit.
It is the Durin's Day now!
You have discovered the Secret Passage!
Bilbo Baggins, an experienced burglar, cancels scout: Too afraid!
You have discovered Smaug, a dragon!
You have discovered the Smaug's hoard!
Bilbo Baggins, an experienced burglar, cancels scout: Enchanted!
A burglar has stolen a Masterpiece Golden Cup!
Group has begun a party.
Smaug, a dragon, has become enraged!
A dwarf cancels attend a party: Interrupted by a dragon! x12
A pony has been struck down! x5
Smaug, a dragon, and Bilbo Baggins, an experienced burglar, have begun a conversation.
Smaug, a dragon, has calmed down.
You have discovered the Smaug's weak spot!
Smaug, a dragon, has become enraged!
Bilbo Baggins, an experienced burglar, has passed out from exhaustion!
An artifact Secret Door has been destroyed by a dragon!
Smaug, a dragon, has calmed down.
The Lake Town cancels life: Interrupted by a dragon!
Smaug, a dragon, has become enraged!
There is a fire in the city! x13
A guard cancels fight: Fleeing! x54
Bard, a captain of the guard, cancels be desperate: Interrupted by a thrush!
Bard, a captain of the guard, has launched an artifact blackwood arrow!
Smaug, a dragon, has been struck down!
Bard, a captain of the guard, has become a dragon slayer!
The Lake Town has been destroyed!
A dwarf cancels wait: Starving for air! x13
Bilbo Baggins, an experienced burglar, cancels wait: Starving for air!
Bilbo Baggins, an experienced burglar, cancels scout: Enchanted!
A burglar has stolen the Arkenstone, a dwarven artifact!
Thorin "Oakenshield", a dwarven legend, has begun a conversation with Roäc, a raven elder.
The Lonely Mountain, a dwarven civilization, have sent an embassy to the The Dwarves of the Iron Hills, a dwarven civilization.
The winter is upon you!
An embassy of elves and men has arrived!
An embassy of elves and men has arrived!
Thorin "Oakenshield", a dwarven legend, has begun a conversation with Bard, a dragon slayer.
An embassy of elves and men has arrived!
The Lonely Mountain, a dwarven civilization, has become an enemy of the Lake Town, a human civilization.
The Lonely Mountain, a dwarven civilization, has become an enemy of the Wood Elves, a elven civilization.
An elven guard cancels hold watch: Interrupted by a burglar! x5
Bilbo Baggins, an experienced burglar, has begun a conversation with Bard, a dragon slayer, and the Elvenking, a king.
An embassy of elves and men has arrived!
Thorin "Oakenshield", a dwarven legend, has become dumbstruck!
Thorin "Oakenshield", a dwarven legend, has become enraged!
Bilbo Baggins, an experienced burglar, has become an enemy of Thorin, a dwarven legend.
The host of the Dwarves of the Iron Hills has arrived!
The Dwarves of the Iron Hills, a dwarven civilization, has become an enemy of the Lake Town, a human civilization.
The Dwarves of the Iron Hills, a dwarven civilization, has become an enemy of the Wood Elves, a elven civilization.
It is dark now.
The host of the Goblins of the North has arrived!
The host of the Wargs has arrived!
The Dwarves of the Iron Hills, a dwarven civilization, has become an ally of the Lake Town, a human civilization.
The Dwarves of the Iron Hills, a dwarven civilization, has become an ally of the Wood Elves, a elven civilization.
The Battle of Five Armies has begun!
A elf has entered a martial trance! x251
A dwarf has entered a martial trance! x341
A human has entered a martial trance! x419
A goblin has been struck down! x15
A warg has been struck down! x20
A elf has been struck down! x8
A goblin has been struck down! x34
A warg has been struck down! x31
A dwarf has been struck down! x11
A human has been struck down! x2
An ambush! Curse them!
A elf has been struck down! x50
The Lonely Mountain, a dwarven civilization, has become an ally of the Lake Town, a human civilization.
The Lonely Mountain, a dwarven civilization, has become an ally of the Wood Elves, a elven civilization.
Thorin "Oakenshield", a dwarven legend, has entered a martial trance!
A dwarf has entered a martial trance! x12
A goblin has been struck down! x26
A warg has been struck down! x8
A dwarf has been struck down! x30
A elf has been struck down! x7
A human has been struck down! x10
The host of Giant Eagles has arrived!
Bilbo Baggins, an experienced burglar, has been knocked out.
The Battle of Five Armies has ended!
Bilbo Baggins, an experienced burglar, has begun a conversation with Thorin "Oakenshield", a dwarven legend.
Bilbo Baggins, an experienced burglar, has become a friend of Thorin "Oakenshield", a dwarven legend.
Thorin "Oakenshield", a dwarven legend, has passed away!
Dain has become the King Under the Mountain!
Bilbo Baggins, an experienced burglar, has become downcast.
Gandalf "the Grey", Bilbo Baggins, Beorn and the Elven host have left on their journey!
Bilbo Baggins, an experienced burglar, has become a friend of Wood Elves, the elven civilization.
The Elven host has turned towards Mirkwood.
It is now spring.
Gandalf "the Grey" and Bilbo Baggins have left on their journey.
Bilbo Baggins, an experienced burglar, is back again!

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http://www.ece.uwaterloo.ca/~dwharder/Personal/Hobbit/ (http://www.ece.uwaterloo.ca/~dwharder/Personal/Hobbit/)
Supermikhail has become more experienced.
Supermikhail has passed out from exhaustion.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Arkenstone on July 30, 2010, 09:19:22 pm
A burglar has stolen the Arkenstone, a dwarven artifact!
This is where I got my username from... (not the thread, but the book)
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Murphy on July 30, 2010, 10:04:11 pm
You know, elves and humans can't enter martial trances. It's a dwarven ability.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Arkenstone on July 30, 2010, 10:14:01 pm
You know, elves and humans can't enter martial trances. It's a dwarven ability.
A Catgirl has been struck down! x3
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: robolee on July 31, 2010, 01:47:14 pm
Golum cancels eat rabbit, interrupted by 'taters.
Samwise has created a masterpiece.

Technically Golum was interrupted by a stupid fat hobbit, but I had to mention the taters.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: antymattar on July 31, 2010, 01:55:20 pm
Dwarf cancels search for dragon; Chained up X13
Bilbo cancels search for spiders; searching for dwarfs
You have discovered an expansive elven(!!!) cavern deep underground.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The =Fellowship= of the *Ring*"
Post by: Karnewarrior on July 31, 2010, 02:19:06 pm
The hobbit is finished. We are now working on the Fellowship of the rings. Please bold and color your announcement messages, it's less work for me.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The =Fellowship= of the *Ring*"
Post by: ed boy on July 31, 2010, 03:30:26 pm
This may help:
http://pdfcast.org/pdf/the-lord-of-the-rings-the-fellowship-of-the-ring
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The =Fellowship= of the *Ring*"
Post by: Arkenstone on August 02, 2010, 10:08:01 pm
Ehh, too much abriged in my opinion. :-\   If you won't read the entire book, then just stick with the movie...
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The =Fellowship= of the *Ring*"
Post by: sadron on August 02, 2010, 10:15:06 pm
Gimli cancels Defend Helms Deep: Finding Box.
(I had not noticed Karne's post until after, but I couldn't pass this post up regardless, sorry Karne ^^;.)
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The =Fellowship= of the *Ring*"
Post by: Xenoc on August 03, 2010, 04:09:44 am
OK - so lets start the ball rolling on Fellowship...

Bilbo Baggins, Hobbit, has organized a party at The Shire
The child, Frodo Baggins, has grown into a Hobbit

...can't for the life of me remember what colour growing up announcements should be...  :o
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The =Fellowship= of the *Ring*"
Post by: Arkbrik on August 03, 2010, 04:51:35 am
A thief has stolen a ¤Dragon Rocket¤!
A masterpiece Dragon Rocket by Gandalf the Grey has been destroyed!
The Wizard grabs the Hobbit by the left ear, bruising the skin!
The Wizard grabs the Hobbit by the right ear, bruising the skin!
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The =Fellowship= of the *Ring*"
Post by: Arkenstone on August 03, 2010, 06:26:42 am
Bilbo Baggins, Hobbit, has organized a party at The Shire
Shouln't it be more like
Bilbo Baggins, Hobbit, has organized a party at the Party Tree

Also,
Hobbit cancels listen to speech: job item lost or destroyed x144
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The =Fellowship= of the *Ring*"
Post by: Arkenstone on August 03, 2010, 06:36:49 am
The hobbit is finished. We are now working on the Fellowship of the rings. Please bold and color your announcement messages, it's less work for me.
I just wanted to point out that {font=terminal} works a lot better...
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The =Fellowship= of the *Ring*"
Post by: ed boy on August 03, 2010, 09:51:50 am
Also,
Hobbit cancels listen to speech: job item lost or destroyed x144
not quite. There were 145 hobbits (144 guests+frodo) there.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The =Fellowship= of the *Ring*"
Post by: Arkenstone on August 03, 2010, 12:38:16 pm
GRR!  I had almost 2 dozen lines and lost it!!!!  >:(
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The =Fellowship= of the *Ring*"
Post by: Lord Shonus on August 03, 2010, 06:23:59 pm
A thief has stolen a ¤Dragon Rocket¤!
A masterpiece Dragon Rocket by Gandalf the Grey has been destroyed!
The Wizard grabs the Hobbit by the left ear, bruising the skin!
The Wizard grabs the Hobbit by the right ear, bruising the skin!

This was a movie-only event.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The =Fellowship= of the *Ring*"
Post by: Karnewarrior on August 03, 2010, 07:56:10 pm
Updated.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The +Hobbit+"
Post by: Murphy on August 07, 2010, 10:44:03 pm
You know, elves and humans can't enter martial trances. It's a dwarven ability.
A Catgirl has been struck down! x3
I don't get it.

Another little note: Smaug the dragon was not struck down, but rather shot and killed.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The =Fellowship= of the *Ring*"
Post by: kopout on August 10, 2010, 03:32:52 am
It is said that when science is applied to fantasy god kills a catgirl 
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The =Fellowship= of the *Ring*"
Post by: Karnewarrior on August 10, 2010, 01:34:02 pm
Oh, really?

How would mithril exist? Could it be made of natural carbon fibers?
*Scream*
How do dragons stay aloft? I say they use helium sacs.
*Stabbing noises*
I think that trolls are actually a type of lizard, which explains the regeneration
*lightning strike*
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The =Fellowship= of the *Ring*"
Post by: Ironhand on August 10, 2010, 02:44:18 pm
Why is the *ring* not ☼masterwork☼?
In fact, why is it not an artifact?

I bet "Onering" is a valid name in dwarvish. You should look it up.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The =Fellowship= of the ☼Ring☼"
Post by: Blackdutchie on August 11, 2010, 03:31:57 pm
Closest the language_DWARF raw file gives me is:
Shoner(Pocket_Verb, whatever that is)
Ging (Youth)
Shonerging
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The =Fellowship= of the ☼Ring☼"
Post by: Lord Shonus on August 11, 2010, 04:13:49 pm
The hobbit Lobelia Sackville-Baggins has come! A short pudgy creature fond of food and luxury! Beware her shrill voice!
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The =Fellowship= of the ☼Ring☼"
Post by: Karnewarrior on August 11, 2010, 04:41:06 pm
I'm not counting it if you don't color it. I'd also like you to bold it, if you can. :)
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The =Fellowship= of the ☼Ring☼"
Post by: ed boy on August 11, 2010, 05:02:34 pm
Would it be possible for you to include on the first post a guide for what messages are in what colour? It would make colouring a lot easier.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The =Fellowship= of the ☼Ring☼"
Post by: Karnewarrior on August 11, 2010, 05:07:36 pm
Alright, it'll be up in a second.
Title: Re: LOTR in annoucement messages "The =Fellowship= of the ☼Ring☼"
Post by: MaDeR Levap on August 11, 2010, 07:17:26 pm
The hobbit Lobelia Sackville-Baggins has come! A short pudgy creature fond of food and luxury! Beware her shrill voice!
Eye-cancer. Now repeat after me: I will NOT draw dark blue on dark gray background.