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Title: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Slozgo Luzma on September 14, 2018, 02:42:58 am
When adventuring parties become a thing in the next update, what band of souls will you feed to Armok's altar first?

I'm probably going to go with either a generic four-person elf/human/human/dwarf/kobold party fulfilling ranger-bard/scholar-diplomat/fighter/fighter/thief. Either that or something similar with only animal people.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Mort Stroodle on September 14, 2018, 12:40:24 pm
A family of four dwarven draltha ranchers, and their herd of three dralthas.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Senator Jim Death on September 14, 2018, 01:43:35 pm
generic four-person elf/human/human/dwarf/kobold party

Are we getting dwarf/kobold hybrids in that update, or is the human a werehuman such that he turns into a different human at the full moon?
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Lorn Asbord Schutta on September 14, 2018, 02:49:11 pm
2 companions, one bard/spy focused on stealth and stabbing with knife, other being hammerman in heaviest armor I will find. As lead I will play human focused on intrigue skill, reading and writing. With the party of zealot, templar and inquisitor I will begin the hunt for the wicked and sinners.

And of course, when each of the first adventurers will die, I am going to make party of nine, with elf, dwarf, four goblins and three man. Just to wait for generated golden artifact ring...
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Cathar on September 14, 2018, 03:32:42 pm
If we can create multiple adventurers, I will just ask a couple of friends to create theirs and will report on our virtual wacky adventures. If not I'll continue to explore the world with my human swordsman and his drunk dwarf sidekick
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Nidilap on September 14, 2018, 07:20:34 pm
Depends how big the party will be

If I can get away with thirteen Dwarves and a small Human, I'll journey to find a Dragon Lair and get some heavy combat going.

Assuming that the game will be more - ahem - conservative, with the party amount, I'll enjoy a party of Humans and Dwarves getting drunk and fighting bandits. Hell, maybe incite a revolt or two.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Enemy post on September 14, 2018, 07:43:08 pm
2 companions, one bard/spy focused on stealth and stabbing with knife, other being hammerman in heaviest armor I will find. As lead I will play human focused on intrigue skill, reading and writing. With the party of zealot, templar and inquisitor I will begin the hunt for the wicked and sinners.

And of course, when each of the first adventurers will die, I am going to make party of nine, with elf, dwarf, four goblins and three man. Just to wait for generated golden artifact ring...

Shouldn't kobolds be the equivalent of the thieving hobbitses?

For my part, probably a solo human or dwarf accompanied by a pack of modded raptor pets.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Cathar on September 14, 2018, 08:03:42 pm
I have encountered a hobbit in my (almost) vanilla game. Really a normal human. Except he kept his children size all his life, I had a blast while watching him in Dwarf Portrait or Armok Vision ; my twelve years old squire was looking down on him. I love this game
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Egan_BW on September 14, 2018, 09:38:25 pm
Hopefully we can define the relationships between our adventurers, so that we can be siblings and such.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: George_Chickens on September 14, 2018, 10:44:20 pm
I want to recruit a band of criminals and go on raids in the countryside, eventually making a warband which topples kingdoms and rules them brutally for its own gain.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Cathar on September 15, 2018, 09:51:10 am
Hopefully we can define the relationships between our adventurers, so that we can be siblings and such.

Yes please
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Blastbeard on September 15, 2018, 10:04:44 am
I'm really more excited for mounts and pack animals, but I've already got a list of party compositions I want to try out.

Highlights form the To-do list:
No matter what I do, I'm hoping to get some good use out of pack animals, or at least a party member dedicated to loot hauling. Nobody really appreciates the logistics of a successful dungeon crawl until you realize you can only carry so much, and have to pick and choose what to leave behind.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: KittyTac on September 15, 2018, 10:40:29 am
Nobody really appreciates the logistics of a successful dungeon crawl until you realize you can only carry so much, and have to pick and choose what to leave behind.
This brings me back to Dungeon Crawl.

"Must... pick up... everything... but my inventory is full... ARGH!"
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Dozebôm Lolumzalìs on September 15, 2018, 11:40:11 pm
In Pandemonium: another scroll of remove curse, or a potion of cure mutation? Tough decision... of course, now that they've removed potions of cure mutation, this decision doesn't exist anymore.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: KittyTac on September 15, 2018, 11:47:00 pm
In Pandemonium: another scroll of remove curse, or a potion of cure mutation? Tough decision... of course, now that they've removed potions of cure mutation, this decision doesn't exist anymore.
I think regular mutation potions have a decent chance of removing bad mutations (now that they've been buffed to have an increased chance to bring good ones).
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Shonai_Dweller on September 16, 2018, 12:02:11 am
I want to see how far I can push the villain system. Starting with just me, a couple of drunks, an elephant-man heavy and extensive knowledge of all the worlds networks (if that data is exportable), we'll plot the downfall of civilization one step at a time from our secret underground hut.

Oh, will need some crocodiles and a white cat to complete the party.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Blastbeard on September 16, 2018, 12:41:15 am
So basically a medieval mafia? That's actually a good idea. Taking the usual murderhobo approach to dealing with the new villains and their networks is probably going to lead to a lot of collateral damage and more flying spit than a Ugandan Knuckles meme. Fighting fire with fire might be more effective in the long run, and will probably be more interesting than just killing everything that moves.
I'm pretty sure the ability to (attempt to) extort sites by forcing them to offer tribute already works in adventure mode, so there's definitely work to do of an illicit nature. Now we just need law-givers and nobles to gain the ability to outlaw things such as weapons for civilians or the consumption of alcohol, and there's the arms dealing and bootlegging business for you right there.

If mercenaries ever gain adventure mode utility, running a warband of fighting men would probably be fun too. Granted, butter doesn't exist yet, so there's no real incentive, but a horde of soldiers-of-fortune at your back is always a great stepping stone into the world of medieval politics.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Arcvasti on September 16, 2018, 12:43:49 am
One kobold and as many cats as the starting points will buy.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Cathar on September 16, 2018, 01:48:17 pm
Will we ever be able to train cats for war in the future? And give them little armors and swords adapted to their paws?
If yes I will do a party made exclusively of this.

Also I don't understand how people in general seem to think mercenaries and companions are useless in the current version. The system could use some improvement, but creating and managing my warband is 80% of my adventuring gameplay

[...] more flying spit than a Ugandan Knuckles meme.

I now also want to see a band of red kobolds spit at the enemy, click at each other and never freeze
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Blastbeard on September 16, 2018, 03:21:44 pm
Will we ever be able to train cats for war in the future? And give them little armors and swords adapted to their paws?
If yes I will do a party made exclusively of this.
One of the highlights of my early adventuring days was witnessing a cat decapitate a human bandit. It may have just been a commoner, but war cats could be a viable option. Lord knows they breed fast enough to neglect casualties.

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Also I don't understand how people in general seem to think mercenaries and companions are useless in the current version. The system could use some improvement, but creating and managing my warband is 80% of my adventuring gameplay
Having a large party is one thing, doing stuff with it and getting a tangible reward out of it is another. And while you may be able to create a warband, but it's still not not a Warband until you can wield a blade while mounted. Wielding a blade while mounted while also being a Lord with a personal Banner would be even better, but we're not likely to see such things come to pass in our lifetime.

[...] more flying spit than a Ugandan Knuckles meme.
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I now also want to see a band of red kobolds spit at the enemy, click at each other and never freeze
Maybe the reason kobolds keep going extinct in my worlds is because they do not know the way. The way to not get eaten by rocs, that is.

Power Rangers but it's kobolds
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Cathar on September 16, 2018, 03:33:51 pm
Having a large party is one thing, doing stuff with it and getting a tangible reward out of it is another. And while you may be able to create a warband, but it's still not not a Warband until you can wield a blade while mounted. Wielding a blade while mounted while also being a Lord with a personal Banner would be even better, but we're not likely to see such things come to pass in our lifetime.
*laugh in swadian while charging you money for mods*

Also I'm now really considering basing my kobolds on ugandan knuckle with just enough distance for plausible deniability.
This is just perfect for a race of creatures derping their way into extinction. This is the wai my bruda
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: KittyTac on September 16, 2018, 09:33:46 pm
Actually, banners might come with either economy (20 years) or laws and customs (6 years). Unless you are really old, you will live to see those releases.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Slozgo Luzma on September 16, 2018, 09:41:38 pm
Actually, banners might come with either economy (20 years) or laws and customs (6 years). Unless you are really old, you will live to see those releases.

We may live to see Dwarf Fortress v1.0, but it will be many lifetimes before anyone sees the full release of Mount and Blade II: Bannerlord.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Yerland on October 20, 2018, 08:31:40 pm
I will explore the world and create a party of the largest animal people I can find, then bring them back to my fort and make custom masterwork armor and weapons for all of them.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: KittyTac on October 20, 2018, 09:09:47 pm
Kobold raiding party!
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: SQman on October 23, 2018, 12:41:43 pm
Three cheetah men: wrestler, maceman and crossbowman. I'll mod in karate gi and go hunting for ape men.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Blastbeard on October 23, 2018, 02:02:09 pm
Three cheetah men: wrestler, maceman and crossbowman.

The Cheetah men formed a party.
And now...
           A dissapointment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ3fVEA8lNE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ3fVEA8lNE)

"No SQman. No."
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Eric Blank on November 05, 2018, 06:20:00 pm
Possibly a true bandit gang. Or maybe a gnoll tribe, with a human sorceror. The four horsemen of the apocalypse? A werebeast/bard band would also be cool. A vampire cult could be fun.

Gnoll vampire cult with human sorceror vampire!
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: BigUglyWorm on November 09, 2018, 08:56:50 pm
  • Rodent men, rodent men, we're the rodent men. We play at night, we stalk at night, we're the rodent men
They are, of course, led by the largest among them.
"AH'M DE GIANT RODENT-MAN DAT MAKES ALL A DUH ROOLZ!"
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Rumrusher on November 10, 2018, 01:30:18 pm
So kinda wonder if it possible to just do this party thing with dfhack? write up a script that just starts adventure mode with companions bound to you already?
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Shonai_Dweller on November 11, 2018, 10:11:45 pm
So kinda wonder if it possible to just do this party thing with dfhack? write up a script that just starts adventure mode with companions bound to you already?
Possibly, but no mounts, no villaneous commands, no party creation screen or equipment purchase on start up. Possibly no pets either. With a release predicted for this month I'm not sure why you'd want to bother making a Dfhack version right now.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Egan_BW on November 12, 2018, 09:53:06 am
Not to mention no way to actually control the whole party. Guess you could use dfhack to body-hop, but that's not the same as what toady wants it to be.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Rumrusher on November 13, 2018, 01:52:50 pm
So kinda wonder if it possible to just do this party thing with dfhack? write up a script that just starts adventure mode with companions bound to you already?
Possibly, but no mounts, no villaneous commands, no party creation screen or equipment purchase on start up. Possibly no pets either. With a release predicted for this month I'm not sure why you'd want to bother making a Dfhack version right now.
challenge? probably an advfort vs adv build menu that toady added where both does the same concept but tackles it differently and one adds on to the other alot more.

though party Creation and equipment purchase is probably an UI thing and out of my hands, using unit/item spawning scripts is doable, mounts are doable as that's a unit.relationship and unit flag toggle for that to work, also pets uhh hmm I think I did that with just simple modding and making a syndrome that gifts the ability to talk to a unit and get them to join you. 

other than that probably figuring out how bandit ai work so one could just send companions out to rob folks is probably something to add to the todo list for villainous commands.


oh yeah one could just use the fort mode embark system for the points and party creation, then just 'bodyswap' into the body of one of the fort residents and companion the rest of the civ.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: KittyTac on November 13, 2018, 11:05:25 pm
It would be easier and faster to just wait for the update.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: evilmagic on November 14, 2018, 06:59:43 am
I have a group of 10 friends that i've been playing games with for years so i was going to make 10 naked dwarves with knives and give each of them ONE skill. One would have reading, one would have knife fighting, one would have swimming, one would have riding, one would have fighter, etc. Maybe give them an item for their skill (riding would get to start with a horse, maybe the throwing guy gets a few knives instead of just one) and just see how long we all survive. It makes each one dying a lot more important because if, for example, we lose the reader we just cant read anymore. See how long it takes for us to make it from naked outsiders to full steel legends and how many of us survive that far.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: 5crownik007 on November 17, 2018, 04:59:51 am
I'd make a group of master carpenters and build a town.
Screw those vanilla towns with their permanent residents and functioning wells, we'll make our own town, with blackjack and kobold hookers.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Truncatedurist on November 20, 2018, 11:44:01 pm
^yes
I would make a  party of elephant men wrestlers and kill all of the megabeasts.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: pikachu17 on November 21, 2018, 05:55:42 pm
PTW
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: pikachu17 on November 23, 2018, 04:47:34 pm
Not sure what it'll look like, but I'm gonna retire them in my fortress.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Grand Sage on December 06, 2018, 07:19:28 pm
Hang on, go back to the kobold hooker part...

Nah just kidding, but i liked the idea of adventurers founding towns.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: newsamsam on December 07, 2018, 03:59:11 am
I'll just have some carpenters, some bards, Animal people and Elephants.
Finally my traveling circus is ready!
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Egan_BW on December 07, 2018, 04:03:07 am
Don't forget to bring someone who can read/write, so that you can put up a sign...
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on December 07, 2018, 12:55:44 pm
Think I'll probably start with something fairly simple, like a pair of sibling adventurers and their horses, maybe a dog too. I'll wait until I get the hang of controlling multiple characters to move onto something crazy like 30 axedwarves on the backs of giant elephants.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: ZM5 on December 12, 2018, 09:22:24 am
This. (https://66.media.tumblr.com/2b8f9ea08c9935ddaad70cc445bf8800/tumblr_phlfovtIGL1solpxqo2_1280.png) Will probably have to substitute most of these with modded races since I deleted all animal people in my raws, but, eh. As long as we get to have an epic quest (https://66.media.tumblr.com/2be0dcbe970a1e8911dce33df7d9fe88/tumblr_phlfovtIGL1solpxqo1_640.png).
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: KittyTac on December 12, 2018, 09:55:58 am
This. (https://66.media.tumblr.com/2b8f9ea08c9935ddaad70cc445bf8800/tumblr_phlfovtIGL1solpxqo2_1280.png) Will probably have to substitute most of these with modded races since I deleted all animal people in my raws, but, eh. As long as we get to have an epic quest (https://66.media.tumblr.com/2be0dcbe970a1e8911dce33df7d9fe88/tumblr_phlfovtIGL1solpxqo1_640.png).
I can't access the blog, can you explain?
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: ZM5 on December 12, 2018, 10:01:28 am
This. (https://66.media.tumblr.com/2b8f9ea08c9935ddaad70cc445bf8800/tumblr_phlfovtIGL1solpxqo2_1280.png) Will probably have to substitute most of these with modded races since I deleted all animal people in my raws, but, eh. As long as we get to have an epic quest (https://66.media.tumblr.com/2be0dcbe970a1e8911dce33df7d9fe88/tumblr_phlfovtIGL1solpxqo1_640.png).
I can't access the blog, can you explain?
Posted (https://i.imgur.com/Q7kvsGG.png) to imgur (https://i.imgur.com/B1QkxGb.png), incase anyone else can't see it.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on December 12, 2018, 12:55:40 pm
Adventurer: Can you tell me the way to Pee Pee Creek?
NPC: Pee Pee Creek is far to the east *you receive a detailed description*. In 122, the meme enthusiast Ikul Canyonlures was struck down by the internet troll Momuz Muckyelled the Irritation of Sponges in Pee Pee Creek.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: Urist McVoyager on December 13, 2018, 12:04:16 am
I'll probably start with a tribe of tigermen and settle in the woods, hunting things and gathering various other animal people to our settlement.
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: PlumpHelmetMan on December 13, 2018, 12:15:33 am
Now that I think about it, I might start with some Fellowship of the Ring type group with at least one member of every civilized race, united against some great evil (this will also be the villain release, luckily, so it shouldn't be too hard to track one down).
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: delphonso on January 04, 2019, 06:36:06 pm
Seven dwarves and a wagon. Possibly some cats, dogs, and two randomly chosen work animals. Off to the mountains! Strike the earth!
Title: Re: What Will Your First Adventuring Party Look Like?
Post by: King Zultan on January 05, 2019, 07:10:08 am
Probably gonna make a group of random creatures from all the mods I've installed.