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Title: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on March 29, 2018, 01:04:23 pm
Because why the heck not? The short length of updates and speed of the game itself doesn't lend much space for verbose paragraphs describing the world and its inhabitants. Here, you can ask where Fomorians went, why the calendar is AD while it doesn't mean Anno Domini, and so on.

I will try to reply as often and as accurately as possible ;V



Old Series:

SPAMKINGDOM: Houlandine Dynasty of Luathbas (800 - 892 AD) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=159974.0)
SPAMKINGDOM+: Elected Overlords of Tven (956 - 985 AD) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=163069.0)
SPAMKINGDOM#: Yoean Dynasty of Methiant (1076 AD - hiatus?) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=164245.0)



New Series?:

SPAMKINGDOM 3: Lycwlian Dynasty of Kastoria (400 AEC - ongoing) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=173984.0)



NAQ means No-Answer Question. If I post a NAQ, your question is without answer. Further prying around the question will only result in more NAQs.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: RoseHeart on March 29, 2018, 01:06:50 pm
Is military superior, mechanically?

(sorry, not exactly lore, but I've been wondering...)
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on March 29, 2018, 01:08:33 pm
What do you mean by that :v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Blood_Librarian on March 29, 2018, 01:08:41 pm
Who was this elf that Houladin III had married?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on March 29, 2018, 01:09:16 pm
This is so cool! Thanks Haspen!

So.. what did actually happened to the Fomorians?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: RoseHeart on March 29, 2018, 01:10:13 pm
What do you mean by that :v

Is it like the easiest difficulty setting? (I suppose it ties into lore...)
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on March 29, 2018, 01:13:50 pm
Who was this elf that Houladin III had married?

It was Houlandin II's wife actually, and she was elven princess who lost the civil war in Elven Forest of Tisilenteliya, her name was Aolineniya.

This is so cool! Thanks Haspen!

So.. what did actually happened to the Fomorians?

They were a great migratory savage race loitering in Grey Rockfields. Few tribes went east and died in Houlandin II's Luathbas, majority went northwards and most probably were driven off by pre-Albionese. If they're still around, they would prolly be hiding in some mountains up there.

Is it like the easiest difficulty setting? (I suppose it ties into lore...)

Still not sure what you mean because SPAMKINGDOM has no difficulty settings?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: RoseHeart on March 29, 2018, 01:14:16 pm
I will try to reply as often and as accurately as possible ;V

Perhaps it should be called SPAMLORE!
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Weirdsound on March 29, 2018, 01:17:37 pm
When we helped Cydwyl with their civil war, they gave us some land as a prize. I recall you saying that this land had been divided when Cydwyl and Methiant split into seperate nations. At which point in history were the two nations one, and why did they split?

Also, is it too soon to ask who had Cyl's wife killed, or why Cyl's brother-in-law tried to kill him?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on March 29, 2018, 01:19:00 pm
Hmm. Well I hope they're not extinct. Perhaps we'll someday get another chance to recruit them! Fanciful subjects are the best subjects!

Anyway is it just me or does it seem like we're encountering magical stuff/beings/races less than we did back during the days of Luathbas? Though we did recently discover Orcworld so it might just be me being a bit paranoid.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Rockeater on March 29, 2018, 01:19:51 pm
PTW
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Blood_Librarian on March 29, 2018, 01:21:13 pm
How many people were killed by the sum total of our plots? What about our wars?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on March 29, 2018, 01:25:59 pm
When we helped Cydwyl with their civil war, they gave us some land as a prize. I recall you saying that this land had been divided when Cydwyl and Methiant split into seperate nations. At which point in history were the two nations one, and why did they split?

Either I ate some words or you read it wrong; no, it is Domain of Donuth that was split. Its first (and last) overlord died and his kids went into mad rush to claim gibs on the throne, and Cydwyls and Methiant banded together to get halves of it for themselves.

Southern went to Methiant (then ruled by Yoe II, I believe), the northern became part of Cydwyl, then ruled by Queen Dogethe. The land that Cidric gave you as prize was the northern half, so entirety of 'Domain of Donuth' now belongs to Methiantese crown.

As for your other question, this is lore thread, not mystery solving thread :P

Anyway is it just me or does it seem like we're encountering magical stuff/beings/races less than we did back during the days of Luathbas? Though we did recently discover Orcworld so it might just be me being a bit paranoid.

Its human proliferation that causes magical races to hide, and with them the magic hides as well. As humans 'blob' across the continent, even megabeasts, ghosts, demons and fantasy stock dragons will stop showing up.

How many people were killed by the sum total of our plots? What about our wars?

Pretty sure that Yoean dynasty cannot be responsible for more than 200 to 300 thousand deaths so far.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on March 29, 2018, 01:28:19 pm
Ah. Is there a way that we can try to keep the magic/fanciful stuff around or are we just doomed to lose our ability to interact with magical stuff as the game/history goes on?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Rockeater on March 29, 2018, 01:28:53 pm
How many dynasties we ruled? only Yoean?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Blood_Librarian on March 29, 2018, 01:29:51 pm
Would a really big war against a common enemy or a huge depopulation event fix this?

If a local depopulation event occurs, would the magical races move in to this place or such?

How much progress have we made on fireblood since we first found it? Is it more deadly, advanced, etcera?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on March 29, 2018, 01:35:02 pm
Ah. Is there a way that we can try to keep the magic/fanciful stuff around or are we just doomed to lose our ability to interact with magical stuff as the game/history goes on?
Would a really big war against a common enemy or a huge depopulation event fix this?

If a local depopulation event occurs, would the magical races move in to this place or such?

No, the future of the world is set on being de-magified as humans become the supreme race on it. I have few ways to take it back to 'magic-filled fantasy world', but that would mean lots of bad things to happen to Methiant in meanwhile. Keep eyes peeled though!

How many dynasties we ruled? only Yoean?

3 so far, one represented by each main SPAMKINGDOM game (original, + and #).

How much progress have we made on fireblood since we first found it? Is it more deadly, advanced, etcera?

At first it was Greek Fire-like substance manufactured in far west. As the chemisty behind it was worked out in the east, it was remade more into standard gunpowder and explosive substance it is used as today (simply because its easier to handle and has more uses).
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Blood_Librarian on March 29, 2018, 01:37:44 pm
Would it be possible for one of our kings to become a sourcerer or similiar type of ability?

Has their been cases of a human, dwarf or elf ruling another species society, and how well did it end up for them and their line?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on March 29, 2018, 01:41:05 pm
Is it weird that I'm kinda hoping a lot of bad things happen to Methiant now?

Ah. Well that's sad. I've always really liked the magical parts of the game.

So how have the people of the Luathbas region changed culturally now since the time of Luathbas? I'm already pretty knowledgeable about how we've changed religiously but I'm curious if there has been any similar extreme culture changes?

Would it be possible for one of our kings to become a sourcerer or similiar type of ability?

Has their been cases of a human, dwarf or elf ruling another species society, and how well did it end up for them and their line?
I'm also really curious about this.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Rockeater on March 29, 2018, 01:45:14 pm
Where we ever vassal or tributery of other ruler and how that ended up?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on March 29, 2018, 01:48:36 pm
Where we ever vassal or tributery of other ruler and how that ended up?
We were a vassal of the old Dahnia Kingdom in the second game. Tried rebelling in the second generation of that Dynasty and failed. That's how the second game ended. The kings of Lametania are descended from that guy who rebelled via his son Solus who managed to inherit Lametania through his mother. Him inheriting also let him survive the purge conducted on all the other members of the second game dynasty.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: omada on March 29, 2018, 01:58:09 pm
PTW
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on March 29, 2018, 02:00:43 pm
Would it be possible for one of our kings to become a sourcerer or similiar type of ability?

Has their been cases of a human, dwarf or elf ruling another species society, and how well did it end up for them and their line?

No. Humans are incapable of magic.

Almost none, except few brief stints, arguably the time of SPAMKINGDOM when Houlandin II had elven wife-queen also counts.

So how have the people of the Luathbas region changed culturally now since the time of Luathbas? I'm already pretty knowledgeable about how we've changed religiously but I'm curious if there has been any similar extreme culture changes?

Luathbas peoples were strongest united in times before and during Luathbas, the first unity achieved during Tygwand Dynasty of the early 600s.

Since then they've drifted into three cultures and kingdoms; Felonsine (western Luathbas), Methiantese (eastern Luathbas) and Ceodwellian (south-eastern Luathbas), the latter is very strongly mixed with Parsians as those lands were Parsian till conquest by Houlandine Dynasty.

Ceodwellians and Methiantese got many new faiths going with them, while Felonsines mostly stuck to Pantheonism; thus Felonsines could be said be the 'true' Luathbasians.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on March 29, 2018, 02:06:38 pm
As I'm pretty sure we've conquered most of those three regions does that mean that we've united the three Luathbasians groups under us? Seeing as how we've taken most if not all of the core lands of Luathbas could we reclaim Luathbas as their successors? Also does Pantheonism have more actually real mystical aspects to it compared to other Luathbasian religions? Since we've only really seen Pantheon spirit stuff and not mystical spirit stuff for other religions?

Edit moving this up to a different post: Also our Hurthlings aren't just going to up and disappear someday because of the decline of magic are they? Because I'm kinda afraid they might as a fanciful race. If we somehow manage to some other fanciful races under our rule before they start hiding will they disappear? Is it also possible to get Hurthlings to spread more through out our Kingdom instead of just be isolated to their valley?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Chiefwaffles on March 29, 2018, 02:14:17 pm
No, the future of the world is set on being de-magified as humans become the supreme race on it. I have few ways to take it back to 'magic-filled fantasy world', but that would mean lots of bad things to happen to Methiant in meanwhile. Keep eyes peeled though.

Clearly Haspen is planning on taking Spamkingdom all the way to the near-future setting-wise, then creating a Shadowrun-like scenario.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on March 29, 2018, 02:15:38 pm
As I'm pretty sure we've conquered most of those three regions does that mean that we've united the three Luathbasians groups under us? Seeing as how we've taken most if not all of the core lands of Luathbas could we reclaim Luathbas as their successors?

Also does Pantheonism have more actually real mystical aspects to it compared to other Luathbasian religions? Since we've only really seens Pantheon spirit stuff and not mystical spirit stuff for other religions?

Technically, yes. Though you would have to switch to Pantheonism first to truly champion Methiant as 'continuators of Luathbas' :P

Pantheonism comes from the worship of Gods that Descended (the day of that event started the AD calendar). While their mythology got wonky, their deities numbers' inflated and their magical powers waned greatly, they still have the most mysticism going around, what with mostly working purifications, rituals and augury.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Criptfeind on March 29, 2018, 02:16:23 pm
Purification not seemed to do much for us tbh.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on March 29, 2018, 02:18:18 pm
Purification not seemed to do much for us tbh.

Can't fight against most powerful magicians of the world ya know ;v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on March 29, 2018, 02:19:27 pm
Well I'm definitely going back to supporting converting to Pantheonism then!

Also editted these over to this post: Also our Hurthlings aren't just going to up and disappear someday because of the decline of magic are they? Because I'm kinda afraid they might as a fanciful race. If we somehow manage to some other fanciful races under our rule before all magical stuff starts hiding will they disappear? Is it also possible to get Hurthlings to spread more through out our Kingdom instead of just be isolated to their valley?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on March 29, 2018, 02:21:03 pm
Also editted these over to this post: Also our Hurthlings aren't just going to up and disappear someday because of the decline of magic are they? Because I'm kinda afraid they might as a fanciful race. If we somehow manage to some other fanciful races under our rule before all magical stuff starts hiding will they disappear? Is it also possible to get Hurthlings to spread more through out our Kingdom instead of just be isolated to their valley?

They're second least magic race of the world. They will slowly spread, and with enough care they will prolly not die off.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on March 29, 2018, 02:24:41 pm
Those Damed shits or anyone else better not look at our precious little Hurthlings wrong or they'll be dealing with some very angry Luathbasians!  >:(

Also yeah. I'm not letting Luathbas go! I refuse to let go of our mythical adventures as the Kings of Luathbas! I have to believe that we can reclaim Luathbas and prepare ourselves for the return of magic once it disappears! Mainly because I like magic so I'm going to be hopeful enough to assume it'll reappear! Luathbasian Pantheonism for the win!  :P

Also did the whole Damed hates non-humans help with the decline of magic since it's a fairly successful human religion? Do human always cause magic to weaken or is it something else about the way humans are now that is causing the decline?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on March 29, 2018, 02:59:42 pm
Also did the whole Damed hates non-humans help with the decline of magic since it's a fairly successful human religion? Do human always cause magic to weaken or is it something else about the way humans are now that is causing the decline?

Nah. It comes from the fact that they were always a bit narcissistic and thought themselves better than other, plus any other races they encountered were either uncivilized native tribes or hermitic villages easy for conquering and enslavement. A bit of mysticism thrown in to daily rituals and heeeeere comes Damed!
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: mightymushroom on March 29, 2018, 03:03:08 pm
Does this mean the Orcworld is chock full of magic?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on March 29, 2018, 03:05:40 pm
Does this mean the Orcworld is chock full of magic?

Maybe, you never know :P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on March 29, 2018, 03:06:58 pm
Ah ok. How about Humans causing the decline of magic? Is it an thing that will always happen when there are to many humans or is it just something about the way they are now that is causing it?

Also will it ever be possible for us to finally achieve the rare and mystical harem? Will the words prophesied by the wise Omada "A cute intersex harem with everyone in love with the androgynous king and smart and useful enough into pushing the kingdom forward." ever finally be in our grasp?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on March 29, 2018, 03:12:18 pm
Ah ok. How about Humans causing the decline of magic? Is it an thing that will always happen when there are to many humans or is it just something about the way they are now that is causing it?

Also will it ever be possible for us to finally achieve the rare and mystical harem? Will the word prophesied by the wise Omada "A cute intersex harem with everyone in love with the androgynous king and smart and useful enough into pushing the kingdom forward." ever finally be in our grasp?

Magic is natural, civilization is scientific. The more civilization grows and sciences go ahead, the less nature is magical and becomes devoid of magical beings.

...Neveeeerrrrrrrrrrr!
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on March 29, 2018, 03:18:08 pm
 :'( Don't worry harem I won't give up on the dream! THE DREAM!

Also yeah I can see how that would make humans spreading a problem for magic then... considering that currently the overwhelming majority of humans aren't able to use even the tiniest bit of magic by themselves. So they kinda have to develop along the path of science instead of magic.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Maximum Spin on March 29, 2018, 03:35:43 pm
Where exactly is the blood of the old Houlandins still lurking? Does Parsia still have it through Ceodwell? Have we managed to marry into any already?

Second, does this business about declining magic imply that you also plan to prevent the realisation of my dream of marrying as many elves as possible until we can actually get pointy ears to stick as a phenotype?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on March 29, 2018, 03:40:36 pm
Where exactly is the blood of the old Houlandins still lurking? Does Parsia still have it through Ceodwell? Have we managed to marry into any already?

Second, does this business about declining magic imply that you also plan to prevent the realisation of my dream of marrying as many elves as possible until we can actually get pointy ears to stick as a phenotype?

Blood of old Houlandins definitely migrated north; after Luathbas was disintegrated, their relatives wandered off to Tven (the Dukes of Tven had Houlandine blood) and to Dahnia, and then mingled with future Cydwyls and Helliste, but this blood relation nowadays is really nominal. The other, stronger branch started with martial but dim-witted Ceodwell (the first of ten or so Ceodwells), who created Kingdom of Ceodwell. It continued till they basically died off due internal squabbles and then you guys rolled over Ceodwell for grabs in early 1100s.

No idea, but elves are even more reclusive than dwarves. Good luck :P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Draignean on March 29, 2018, 03:47:05 pm
Hi, I'm with fluffer news agency, can you tell me the lore behind how you keep your fur so soft and glorious while still maintaining a forum game sensation beloved by billions of brain cells the world over?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on March 29, 2018, 03:49:56 pm
Hi, I'm with fluffer news agency, can you tell me the lore behind how you keep your fur so soft and glorious while still maintaining a forum game sensation beloved by billions of brain cells the world over?

Refined tuna oil cosmetic cream.

And I'm still a bit unsure how did something this simple get such attention. It started as half-assed attempt at suggestion game and I was going to discard it in few days and move on to something else.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on March 29, 2018, 03:51:09 pm
Hmm. Isn't the Ceodwell Branch of the Houlandin bloodline still technically alive through us via our grandmother and Solus's descendants? Since Solus was paternally descended from Prince Ceodwell?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on March 29, 2018, 03:53:44 pm
Hmm. Isn't the Ceodwell bloodline still technically alive through us via our grandmother and Solus's descendants? Since Solus was paternally descended from Prince Ceodwell?

Now for ultimate truth:

I actually don't keep real blood relation notes and what little was written down in the 600+ pages of SPAMKINGDOM# is all info we have, and nobody keeps bookmarks I think 'v.

Someone really should make a genealogy book outta this.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Harry Baldman on March 29, 2018, 03:57:15 pm
Refined tuna oil cosmetic cream.

And I'm still a bit unsure how did something this simple get such attention. It started as half-assed attempt at suggestion game and I was going to discard it in few days and move on to something else.

It's got an immediately understandable premise, a steady cycle that prevents pacing issues (minus sometimes during events) and a system that makes solid sense most of the time. It's simple, but draws from all the right influences to work well enough.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Arlos on March 29, 2018, 03:57:38 pm
Hum, I have an important question.
How is it that Cyl lived so long?!?
I mean, he basically antagonized everyone around and spent a good amount of his time fighting, but somehow he reached his 70! Is he secretly a dwarf? Surviving out of sheer spite for his ennemies?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Maximum Spin on March 29, 2018, 03:58:29 pm
What are wizards, anyway?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on March 29, 2018, 03:58:46 pm
Yeah. I actually can't get enough of SPAMKINGDOM. It's probably why I'm usual all for posting in the SPAMGAMES that seemed to start popping up in waves after you gave us the SPAMKINGDOM masterpiece. Also I could actually see the future SPAMKINGDOM people making historical dramas about the SPAMKINGDOM time periods.  :P That is if magic doesn't decide to come back for revenge before they can make get stuff like TVs and other media used to view historical dramas that is.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: mightymushroom on March 29, 2018, 04:00:09 pm
So if Pantheonism has the "most" working mysticism, what are the Alldivine strengths, if any, regarding the supernatural?

Same for the Eleven Graces? Heck, maybe just some background on the Graces, they are apparently popular enough to have a court presence in the "new star" event but I recall no lore about their actual beliefs.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Harry Baldman on March 29, 2018, 04:01:17 pm
What are wizards, anyway?

It's like in Lord of the Rings, I think, where they're weird angelic beings knocking about since the dawn of the world as we know it, incredibly powerful but also mercurial and distant for the most part.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on March 29, 2018, 04:04:33 pm
Also if magic ever does decide to come back and !WAM! humanity back into some tribal dark age or something like that then I should remember to focus on magic instead of technology. I'll never let the temptation of the gun lure me away from the honor of the sword again!  :'(
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Maximum Spin on March 29, 2018, 04:05:03 pm
What are wizards, anyway?

It's like in Lord of the Rings, I think, where they're weird angelic beings knocking about since the dawn of the world as we know it, incredibly powerful but also mercurial and distant for the most part.
I know my LotR, but since I'm assuming this setting doesn't have an Eru or Maiar I was hoping for more specifics.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on March 29, 2018, 04:13:38 pm
Hum, I have an important question.
How is it that Cyl lived so long?!?
I mean, he basically antagonized everyone around and spent a good amount of his time fighting, but somehow he reached his 70! Is he secretly a dwarf? Surviving out of sheer spite for his ennemies?

Sorceress' blessing raised minimum age cap by 10 years, so I do 'random sleep death from old age' ticks only since Cyl turned 50.

Meanwhile, RNG blessed your rolls in just right moments for Cyl (and, as we see from history, to the misfortune of most of his kids).

What are wizards, anyway?

Wizards are demigods and servants of good, wandering around and nurturing morality in rulers and leaders by guiding them to do good deeds. They are also means to protect humans from getting hurt by magic too much (or by being tainted by it).

Sorceresses are demigoddesses and servants of dark, wandering around and showing that through excesses, vice and money, you can get everything. Their spells also strengthen the world magic in local area, inevitably causing a spike in monsters, disasters and such.

So if Pantheonism has the "most" working mysticism, what are the Alldivine strengths, if any, regarding the supernatural?

Same for the Eleven Graces? Heck, maybe just some background on the Graces, they are apparently popular enough to have a court presence in the "new star" event but I recall no lore about their actual beliefs.

While northwestern faiths are based on Pantheonism and thus have magical ties to nature and arcane, southeastern faiths come from philosophy and astronomy (and astrology, and herbalism, and other doctor's stuffs). Thus, it's more common to see an Eleven astrologer giving Kings a horoscope, while Priests of Love of the Pantheon are performing a ritual to help the King's son get kids after multiple failures.

Alldivine, its roots obviously coming from southeastern philosophies, has almost nil supernatural strengths. They do a lot of martial discipline, strengthening of oneself, as well as herbalism and medicine instead, all very alluring things for peasants who want to protect their families from all those mini warlords and petty despots that popped up in the region since early 1000s.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on March 29, 2018, 04:15:34 pm
See totally a peasants religion. Pantheonism is totally best religion!  :P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Baffler on March 29, 2018, 07:08:54 pm
What exactly is the nature of the dispute between the elves and dwarves? I remember even very early in the game that Houlandin II's wife was deeply offended by our dealing with dwarves, and especially so when we commissioned an artifact.

Related question, what goes into making an artifact?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Arlos on March 29, 2018, 07:31:12 pm
Related question, what goes into making an artifact?

I am guessing for the Dwarves, they put elves in their Artifact, and the Elves put Dwarves.  :P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: mightymushroom on March 29, 2018, 07:39:08 pm
See totally a peasants religion. Pantheonism is totally best religion!  :P

Mysticism and magic are on the way out. Science and democracy for the win!  :P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Maximum Spin on March 29, 2018, 07:41:21 pm
Mysticism and magic are on the way out. Science and democracy for the win!  :P
Whoa, whoa, who said anything about democracy? Democracy is a passing fad. Haven't we already seen that with the Damdamians?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on March 29, 2018, 08:06:38 pm
Mysticism and magic for life! Democracy is a lie! The peasants have no rights!
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: omada on March 29, 2018, 10:23:22 pm
Before it turns into a war



Refined tuna oil cosmetic cream.

And I'm still a bit unsure how did something this simple get such attention. It started as half-assed attempt at suggestion game and I was going to discard it in few days and move on to something else.

So much that even I Gm'ed (?) a bit of a spamkingdom of my own with some of my friends here in Brazil, and some of then liked a lot the minimalist details and i won't be surprised if someday one of them starts making his own, you created a virus haspen, it will take over the world



So we will never see a human mage, but we can help into increasing magic in regions

we can now set a list of priorities (and we need to discover this info in game by the mouth of a wizard or sorcerer)

1) influence the studies of the arcane so it keep into the minds of folks

2) protect and maintain alive other races

3) amass a fuckton of money and hire sorceress every now and then (HEY WE SHOULD ASK FOR AN MYSTICAL BEAST NEXT TIME, BUT ASK FOR A BEAST THAT WE CAN BREED WITH OUR HORSES, OR LIVE A LONG TIME SO WE CAN ASK FOR A FEMALE)

Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on March 29, 2018, 11:57:37 pm
What exactly is the nature of the dispute between the elves and dwarves? I remember even very early in the game that Houlandin II's wife was deeply offended by our dealing with dwarves, and especially so when we commissioned an artifact.

Related question, what goes into making an artifact?

It goes beyond AD; elves took 'woven' magic as theirs, using non invasive methods to procure magic stuff from surrounding nature. Dwarves on other hand do with blood sacrifices and plow through the dirt and rock in search for magical minerals. After many, many disputes about these fundamental differences, elves got pissed and started fighting with dwarves, and because dwarves are stubborn, elves easily offended, and the two are both long-lived and believe their magic is 'superior' to the other, the conflict now last for over a thousand years ;v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Criptfeind on March 30, 2018, 06:15:33 am
Wait, does that mean that the magical artifacts that we get from dwarves are made out of "blood sacrifices"? Is the principle material of the scepter of weather a handfull of our people that they temporary stole from us?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Rockeater on March 30, 2018, 06:22:52 am
Are the artifacts worth it
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Maximum Spin on March 30, 2018, 06:32:26 am
Wait, does that mean that the magical artifacts that we get from dwarves are made out of "blood sacrifices"? Is the principle material of the scepter of weather a handfull of our people that they temporary stole from us?
I believe we were already told that this was true. I mean, not specifically that they boiled down our people into the weather sceptre, but that they do make their artefacts out of blood sacrifice.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Criptfeind on March 30, 2018, 06:33:49 am
Forgiving the dwarves was a mistake.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: omada on March 30, 2018, 09:34:52 am
I thought the "blood sacrifices" were metaphorical like how they would sacrifice a big number of dwarves to exploit the deepest parts of the land for the search of magical stuff

or they in fact  cut their hands to bleed into the object I dunno

but wearing artifacts made of dead dwarves seems cool to visualize
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on March 30, 2018, 10:57:44 am
Wait, does that mean that the magical artifacts that we get from dwarves are made out of "blood sacrifices"? Is the principle material of the scepter of weather a handfull of our people that they temporary stole from us?

They draw blood from living beings with needles and pipes and mix it into their powders and alloys used in artifact making. After all, there's a lot of iron in blood :P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: omada on March 30, 2018, 11:13:03 am
Wait, does that mean that the magical artifacts that we get from dwarves are made out of "blood sacrifices"? Is the principle material of the scepter of weather a handfull of our people that they temporary stole from us?

They draw blood from living beings with needles and pipes and mix it into their powders and alloys used in artifact making. After all, there's a lot of iron in blood :P

If someone REALLY piss us off we are going to make a sword from the blood of our enemies

write that down
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on March 30, 2018, 11:22:02 am
Wait will our artifacts eventually stop working as the magic of the world disappears?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Harry Baldman on March 30, 2018, 11:24:35 am
Wait will our artifacts eventually stop working as the magic of the world disappears?

We really do need to institute the House of Learning to master weather control before then.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on March 30, 2018, 11:29:50 am
Wait, does that mean that the magical artifacts that we get from dwarves are made out of "blood sacrifices"? Is the principle material of the scepter of weather a handfull of our people that they temporary stole from us?

They draw blood from living beings with needles and pipes and mix it into their powders and alloys used in artifact making. After all, there's a lot of iron in blood :P

If someone REALLY piss us off we are going to make a sword from the blood of our enemies

write that down

A right way of thinking, but best way to go is to make a sword from blood of the someone's children and other loved ones, then use it to stab the fucker.

Wait will our artifacts eventually stop working as the magic of the world disappears?

Definitely.

We really do need to institute the House of Learning to master weather control before then.

Yeah, gotta build that Climatron!
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on March 30, 2018, 11:36:38 am
Hmm. Would it ever be possible for humans to find a way to learn to eventually do magic or are humans just completely and utterly incapable of using magic forever?

Also is there any big events that we caused/influenced during the three SPAMKINGDOM games that had a major impact on the history of this region/world?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Harry Baldman on March 30, 2018, 11:39:20 am
Are orcs purely a feature of the Ironbone Mountains (as in, does it seem like they've radiated out from that area) or are they found elsewhere in the world as well? For instance, are the Calvendocians and Damdamians familiar with them in the same way? Are there any famous orcs?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on March 30, 2018, 11:46:41 am
Hmm. Would it ever be possible for humans to find a way to learn to eventually do magic or are humans just completely and utterly incapable of using magic forever?

Also is there any big events that we caused/influenced during the three SPAMKINGDOM games that had a major impact on the history of this region/world?

Yes, that requires infusing the world with more magic.

Breaking Luathbas up caused slight technological delay in the region, thus allowing the westerners to stumble upon Fireblood first.

Are orcs purely a feature of the Ironbone Mountains (as in, does it seem like they've radiated out from that area) or are they found elsewhere in the world as well? For instance, are the Calvendocians and Damdamians familiar with them in the same way? Are there any famous orcs?

Orcs are native to Orcworld and has been inhabiting Ironbone Mountains for several hundred years, raiding nearby lands every so often too. But no, they haven't ventured past Eldrican and Parsia, relatively speaking. No famous orcs existed, except some occassional orcish warchiefs that survived long enough for someone to record their names (I think there was one in Luathbas time?)
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on March 30, 2018, 12:04:53 pm
So besides killing off huge amounts of humans, rolling back technology, and hiring sorceresses are there other ways to strengthen magic? Also just to make sure since you used a different word by infuse do you mean strengthen magic as opposed to it's current weakening?

Are/were there ever going to be any edicts that revolved around magic stuff?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Harry Baldman on March 30, 2018, 12:12:28 pm
Orcs are native to Orcworld and has been inhabiting Ironbone Mountains for several hundred years, raiding nearby lands every so often too. But no, they haven't ventured past Eldrican and Parsia, relatively speaking. No famous orcs existed, except some occassional orcish warchiefs that survived long enough for someone to record their names (I think there was one in Luathbas time?)

Yeah, what I was wondering about was whether there was just one portal to Orcworld or several scattered in the world (perhaps sporadically opening and closing in magical hotspots), but this points to just one stable gateway that may or may not have a magical origin.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Blood_Librarian on March 30, 2018, 12:18:59 pm
What happens if you try and civilize the elves or Dwarves to humanities society?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Kashyyk on March 30, 2018, 12:21:04 pm
We tried that with the dwarves one time. They constantly got into feuds with our subjects, pissed them off, refused to pay tax and were generally unpleasant to deal with.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Blood_Librarian on March 30, 2018, 12:29:16 pm
We only pushed that for like 2-3 years, not decades. THey'd eventually turn around once we get to a few decades or maybe generations of Dwarves or elves.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: omada on March 30, 2018, 03:13:53 pm
We maintained control of the hurthlings enough time so they could become happy little ones again

maybe after some time we would see more pleasant dwarves and hardened humans
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Criptfeind on March 30, 2018, 03:35:14 pm
We only pushed that for like 2-3 years, not decades. THey'd eventually turn around once we get to a few decades or maybe generations of Dwarves or elves.

The issue is if we try, it could have serious backfire potential. Afaik the dwarven kingdoms that exist around us now and constantly vex us were made from the dwarves we invited to live in our lands in the first game. When those lands were fragmented when the games ended they stole a bunch of land and enslaved a bunch of humans and made their kingdoms.

If we spread the dwarven population even further we run the risk of a series of bad rolls ending the game and then EVEN MORE dwarven kingdoms popping up to fuck with us in future games.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: omada on March 30, 2018, 09:05:32 pm
Dwarf king won't live forever, someday it will have no heir to live, and they will enter in a civil war, this day we take back our lands and make some of them our vassals

DAMN IT'S HARD TO WRITE RIGHT
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Rockeater on April 01, 2018, 07:47:01 am
Should we recognize the name of the king in the story now?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Harry Baldman on April 01, 2018, 07:48:46 am
Should we recognize the name of the king in the story now?

King Feodh the Savior, from the original SPAMKINGDOM! Quite religious, overthrew his gay brother with the help of Pantheonists to seize the throne. Forgot what exactly happened to him, however.

EDIT: eaten by a Hydra! Delightful. His reign begins here (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=159974.msg7283168#msg7283168).
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Kashyyk on April 01, 2018, 07:52:53 am
Curious. I wonder how we're meeting him now then.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Harry Baldman on April 01, 2018, 07:53:34 am
Curious. I wonder how we're meeting him now then.

He didn't get a proper burial because, once again, eaten by a Hydra. So I assume we're speaking with his restless spirit.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Rockeater on April 01, 2018, 08:08:05 am
So if it will continue to another 400 years someone will meet our grandson who was killed by the tree?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: mightymushroom on April 01, 2018, 09:27:42 am
King Feodh the Savior, from the original SPAMKINGDOM! Quite religious, overthrew his gay brother with the help of Pantheonists to seize the throne. Forgot what exactly happened to him, however.

EDIT: eaten by a Hydra! Delightful. His reign begins here (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=159974.msg7283168#msg7283168).

Thanks for pulling that up! Hmm, it may be relevant to keep in mind that his trait is Wise...
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: omada on April 01, 2018, 07:53:33 pm
So if it will continue to another 400 years someone will meet our grandson who was killed by the tree?

probably

or he will become an forgotten beast himself


BEWARE THE METHIANT EMPEROR, IT'S WOODEN BODY EMANATES A CHARISMATIC AURA LURING TRAVELERS TO IT'S HANDS, BEWARE HIS EXPLOSIVE SEEDS


after defeating "a magical forest sprung from it's bodies, a strange necklace is found at the middle of a giant, hollowed, mystical looking tree"

after it passing through our kingdom and leaving
"it's path left a trail of destruction, and dark trees seen to be starting to grow, what do we do?

a) burn it to the ground
b)let it be, it's just trees
C)call priests to purify the area
D) continue calling the wizard"
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on April 02, 2018, 04:37:32 pm
What religion is dominant in Cydwyl?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on April 02, 2018, 04:45:50 pm
What religion is dominant in Cydwyl?

Predominantly Pantheonism, although of Dahnian kind, so your local deities might wary.

Singlularism and Alldivinism are minorities (no more than 10% adherents). Other faiths and pagan beliefs don't even register on Cydwyllian religious radar.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on April 02, 2018, 04:49:12 pm
Is King Erik also Pantheonist?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on April 02, 2018, 04:51:59 pm
Is King Erik also Pantheonist?

Entirety of the north has been Pantheonist for hundreds of years now.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Weirdsound on April 02, 2018, 04:53:49 pm
Is King Erik also Pantheonist?

Entirety of the north has been Pantheonist for hundreds of years now.

Shit. We should team up my agenda of 'combine nations by making King Erik emperor' with your agenda of Spamkingdom 1 Nostalgia.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on April 02, 2018, 04:55:30 pm
Suddenly Erik has become a very very acceptable heir. We need to get some Elective Succession stat! Pantheonism for the win! He is of the bloodline of Cyl and of the best religion!
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on April 08, 2018, 03:25:15 pm
So now that we control the Luathbasian core regions, the three Luathbasian peoples, and are Pantheonist is there anything else we need for a Luathbas Restoration to be possible?

Also just cause I'm curious is there anything we've done in the past three games that have helped the weakening of magic?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on April 08, 2018, 03:58:31 pm
So now that we control the Luathbasian core regions, the three Luathbasian peoples, and are Pantheonist is there anything else we need for a Luathbas Restoration to be possible?

Also just cause I'm curious is there anything we've done in the past three games that have helped the weakening of magic?

The last piece of territory to truly claim Restoration of Luathbas would be at least the eastern half of the current Duchy of Koi, vassal of Eldricans.

Any megabeast slaying counts up for this, but no, there wasn't much you dont to weaken it; instead, you never helped strengthen it, so it wanes away on its own slowly.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on April 08, 2018, 04:26:53 pm
How can we strengthened magic? I mean besides killing off a lot of humans, stop science from progressing, or hiring super expensive sorceresses?

Also just you wait Eldricans. You've proven yourself a fickle neighbor at best so next time you decide to act up Koi will be ours! Then finally Luathbasian glory shall shine again!  8)
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: omada on April 08, 2018, 06:58:34 pm
The title will be fucking big

"Don't mess with me, I am Cyl, emperor of methiant, restorer of Luathbas, king of luathbas, felonsien, tiffit. conqueror of donuth and overlord of eval and... hey, wake up, I haven't finished yet"
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Questions

1. there are negative title?

2. a negative title will count towards being "the great" or it will hind the progress and we will have to take another title?

3. How old can a dwarf be? Long enough that we probably won't see a civil war raging because the king will always have time enough to procreate?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on April 09, 2018, 12:07:25 am
How can we strengthened magic? I mean besides killing off a lot of humans, stop science from progressing, or hiring super expensive sorceresses?

To be honest there's not much you can do with current framework ;v

1. there are negative title?

2. a negative title will count towards being "the great" or it will hind the progress and we will have to take another title?

3. How old can a dwarf be? Long enough that we probably won't see a civil war raging because the king will always have time enough to procreate?

1. Only a few, reserved for the worst of the worst.

2. They will hinder it, duh.

3. In this setting, Elves comfortably live up to 300, Dwarves up to 200, Hurthlings to about 100, Humans usually end at 60.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Blood_Librarian on April 09, 2018, 06:14:11 pm
Is being particularly cruel, incompetent, romantically promiscuous or having some from every meta-human species a negative trait?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on April 10, 2018, 12:03:30 am
Is being particularly cruel, incompetent, romantically promiscuous or having some from every meta-human species a negative trait?

There's plethora of negative traits, people voting in SPAMKINGDOM are just good enough at avoiding them. Or on few occassions, RNG blesses their rolls.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Imic on April 10, 2018, 05:38:50 am
You once mentioned castes in the context of Dwarves, and that's had me curious... How does Dwarrow society work, anyway?
(Dwarrow being an ancient Norse plural for multiple dwarfs)
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on April 10, 2018, 09:33:48 am
You once mentioned castes in the context of Dwarves, and that's had me curious... How does Dwarrow society work, anyway?
(Dwarrow being an ancient Norse plural for multiple dwarfs)

No idea, didn't get to it in detail v:

Tbh you must be taking more meticulous notes about spamkingdom than I do 'v.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Imic on April 10, 2018, 09:56:55 am
You once mentioned castes in the context of Dwarves, and that's had me curious... How does Dwarrow society work, anyway?
(Dwarrow being an ancient Norse plural for multiple dwarfs)

No idea, didn't get to it in detail v:

Tbh you must be taking more meticulous notes about spamkingdom than I do 'v.
Well, in that case, I'm counting on you to create a massive Dwarven societal system and law and culture before I next come on the forum!
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: mightymushroom on April 10, 2018, 09:13:27 pm
I have the impression (obviously not canon) from Uncle Dwarf King's visit that it's managed somewhat like a large international conglomerate in our world, with multiple corporate entities (fortresses) each having their own specialty products and performance goals. We've heard that the regional managers (kings) have a Council that obviously exchanges information and makes coordinated decisions like destroying artifacts. Some of the phrases the High King uses sound like a CEO or at least very senior director upset with his underlings' stubborn pride tanking the "eastern" branches' bottom line.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on April 10, 2018, 10:57:31 pm
How do our subjects feel about/think of our Empire and Emperor? Can you tell us a bit of what the culture in our Empire is like? Also what do the neighboring foreign peoples think about our Empire, Emperor, and people?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Imic on April 11, 2018, 08:30:29 am
How do our subjects feel about/think of our Empire and Emperor? Can you tell us a bit of what the culture in our Empire is like? Also what do the neighboring foreign peoples think about our Empire, Emperor, and people?
+1
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on April 11, 2018, 09:42:39 am
How do our subjects feel about/think of our Empire and Emperor? Can you tell us a bit of what the culture in our Empire is like? Also what do the neighboring foreign peoples think about our Empire, Emperor, and people?

No.

Culture is fairly standard european western medieval, with some celtic and nordic infusions. If Albion is Norway, then Methiant is Denmark, Eldrican is French, Parsians are Turks and Damdamians are Swiss ;v

No.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Blood_Librarian on April 11, 2018, 09:52:54 am
What is the prevalance of clay-made bricks in our society? How exactly do they lay bricks to make castles in SPAMKINGDOM? Is Masonry more prevalent then the use of fired bricks? If Masonry is more common, what is the process by which it is used?

What is the average size of a masonry/fired brick, and is it often used by the peasants as a makeshift weapon to collapse eachothers skulls?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on April 11, 2018, 10:00:13 am
What is the prevalance of clay-made bricks in our society? How exactly do they lay bricks to make castles in SPAMKINGDOM? Is Masonry more prevalent then the use of fired bricks? If Masonry is more common, what is the process by which it is used?

What is the average size of a masonry/fired brick, and is it often used by the peasants as a makeshift weapon to collapse eachothers skulls?

Clay and pottery isn't very well established in Luathbas because the region is very muchly rock-prevalent. Shaped rocks and rock blocks are used for construction, clay is mostly used for pots and other water-holding vessels. Eldricans have much more clay, and so do Helliste. Parsia and Gubta use mudbricks, rock and sandstone.

No idea for both v;
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on April 11, 2018, 12:07:14 pm
How martial/war-like is Methiantese/Luathbasian culture? What is our literary culture like in Methiant? Is there any cool geographical places in Methiant/Luathbas that hasn't been mentioned? What is the concept of honor like in Methiantese/Luathbasian culture? Is that one important fortress the House of Lech from the first game still around/used?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on April 11, 2018, 12:31:22 pm
How martial/war-like is Methiantese/Luathbasian culture? What is our literary culture like in Methiant? Is there any cool geographical places in Methiant/Luathbas that hasn't been mentioned? What is the concept of honor like in Methiantese/Luathbasian culture? Is that one important fortress the House of Lech from the first game still around/used?

Pretty sure that culturally the region haven't progressed much, being engrossed in multiple wars, skirmishes and changes of overlordship since fall of Luathbas ;v

Not sure about places or honor, never paid much attention to that.

As for House of Lech, I'm pretty sure I mentioned in current SPAMKINGDOM that its rubble is laying somewhere around.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on April 11, 2018, 12:45:35 pm
Could we possibly get the chance to rebuild the House of Lech? Who was your favorite King/Emperor of the SPAMKINGDOM games Haspen? If we passed the edicts House of Learning and Patronage of the Arts and kept them going over a long time frame could we possibly start to see some major cultural development since they seem like Edicts that could have that kind of impact?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on April 11, 2018, 12:50:21 pm
Could we possibly get the chance to rebuild the House of Lech? Who was your favorite King/Emperor of the SPAMKINGDOM games Haspen? If we passed the edicts House of Learning and Patronage of the Arts and kept them going over a long time frame could we possibly start to see some major cultural development since they seem like Edicts that could have that kind of impact?

Maybe? Houlandin III of course. Sure I guess.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on April 11, 2018, 01:02:45 pm
Houlandin III was pretty awesome yeah. How do you feel/what is your opinion about the filthy traitorous Damdamian scum? Are the Kiwi people still a thing under the Eldricans? Since I think I remember the Eldricans be a further west Kingdom that came over and conquered the Kiwis? Are Kiwis a related culture to the Luathbasian culture group?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on April 11, 2018, 01:22:38 pm
Houlandin III was pretty awesome yeah. How do you feel/what is your opinion about the filthy traitorous Damdamian scum? Are the Kiwi people still a thing under the Eldricans? Since I think I remember the Eldricans be a further west Kingdom that came over and conquered the Kiwis? Are Kiwis a related culture to the Luathbasian culture group?

Damdamian people best people!

Kiwis are marginalized in Eldrican Kingdom, and their culture (shared with Koi) is different from both Luathbasian and from Eldrican cultures.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Rockeater on April 16, 2018, 04:04:19 pm
The other leaders who got the title "The Great", did they also ruled that long or did they got titles faster?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on April 16, 2018, 04:06:57 pm
The other leaders who got the title "The Great", did they also ruled that long or did they got titles faster?

I think the latter? No idea, I don't go that far with world-building :P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Weirdsound on April 16, 2018, 04:09:12 pm
While Parsia is on our minds, what has become of Leath's widow, and his offspring by her?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Rockeater on April 16, 2018, 04:10:57 pm
So Cylinder is the only one we played as?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on April 16, 2018, 04:11:49 pm
While Parsia is on our minds, what has become of Leath's widow, and his offspring by her?

Considering that they are heathens, by heathen, and of royal family, and 3 out of 4 are women, pretty sure that Manipur got or has planned to off them or sell them into slavery.

This is a subplot I/we should address soon, ye ;vc

Cylinder

ALL HAIL EMPEROR CYLINDER, FIRST OF HIS NAME!
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on April 16, 2018, 04:20:45 pm
That dirty worm better not touch our relatives if he knows whats good for him. Otherwise he'll be dying a very painful death. No one gets away with killing/hurting our blood but us!  >:(

Also is the ever distant harem something that Parsians practice? Can we absorb it from their culture?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Rockeater on April 16, 2018, 04:59:05 pm
Damn Autocorrect
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Baffler on April 16, 2018, 05:27:58 pm
What became of the dwarves who fled deeper underground when we sacked their fortress? Did they escape somehow, or were they just hiding in a mineshaft until the coast was clear?

Related, what were the dwarves fighting down there shortly before we sacked their fort? I don't remember exactly when that happened but they warned us about the situation but refused our offer to help, then just told us it was dealt with a while later.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on April 16, 2018, 11:55:04 pm
What became of the dwarves who fled deeper underground when we sacked their fortress? Did they escape somehow, or were they just hiding in a mineshaft until the coast was clear?

Related, what were the dwarves fighting down there shortly before we sacked their fort? I don't remember exactly when that happened but they warned us about the situation but refused our offer to help, then just told us it was dealt with a while later.

They went deeper underground and through all those caves and tunnels, navigated their ways safely to other fortresses.

They dug too deep and released some couple forgotten beasts and such. Took them a while to kill'em all.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Imic on April 17, 2018, 01:47:22 am
Ah, Haspen. Occasionally killing off people and unleashing eldritch horrors on side characters that escaped. All in a day's work for the person who is essentially more powerful than any god, but still only focuses on this one wee Empier here.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: crazyabe on April 17, 2018, 12:47:32 pm
PTW
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Blood_Librarian on April 17, 2018, 09:14:19 pm
Are Aliens a thing? Like actual, bonified space aliens?

Is the world flat? Or is it round?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on April 17, 2018, 11:54:35 pm
Are Aliens a thing? Like actual, bonified space aliens?

Is the world flat? Or is it round?

Dunno, haven't met any yet :P

It is round, but no one circumnavigated it yet.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on April 23, 2018, 12:54:22 am
Was there any nations with religious tolerance laws before us?

Has any other nation besides us set up a House of Learning or something like it?

Is the 'Purer' version of Pantheonism that just appeared more mystical/magical because it only worships the oldest Pantheon gods?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on April 23, 2018, 09:43:56 am
Was there any nations with religious tolerance laws before us?

Has any other nation besides us set up a House of Learning or something like it?

Is the 'Purer' version of Pantheonism that just appeared more mystical/magical because it only worships the oldest Pantheon gods?

The region in general was quite tolerant, because it lies in nature of Pantheonism to be tolerant ("hey, nice god. Did you know we have 50 plus of them? Ain't that rad!"), then Singularism and Damed showed up, and recently Alldivinism, and people began to play favorites, till Cyl happened.

No, Methiant the only one with university in this region.

It sheds away lots of gods made from people aka 'this guy did this and killed this beast and then won seven battles in a row, truly he must've been god in disguise'. Thann's purist version crops the list back to first half of first millenium AD.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on May 04, 2018, 05:42:09 pm
What religions do the Elves and Dwarves practice?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on May 05, 2018, 01:58:55 am
What religions do the Elves and Dwarves practice?

No idea. But true to DF inspirations that are already aplenty in spamkingdom, dwarves probably have some sort of pantheon and elves worship a forest spirit or two.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: ZBridges on May 05, 2018, 02:51:36 am
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You decide to lead her to the healers. You don't get far before the maid clutches her stomach - or chest, you're not sure - in pain and leans downwards. Great, there will be a floor mess soon-

Ye gods! Instead of barfing like any normal sick person would do, a ribbed black appendage bursts from her mouth. In a cacophony of clicks, sizzles and very quiet shrieks, the maid stands upright, her chest bursting open and a set of four, scythe-like legs extending from her exposed ribcage, the visible bones wrapped in mass of black tentacles.

The horrid tentacle-ant-maid-thing then bursts a lobster-like tail from between its legs and goes as qaudruped. Its tongue-tube-thing extends towards you, and only now you notice triple row of needle-like teeth decorating its tight throat tunnel.

Drooling and clicking widly, this monster from other world advances towards you!!

a) fuckin hell run away and to the left there's guard tower there, or was it healers? fuk this why its always me
b) aaaah what the fuck time to run and go left that's were the mess hall is the masses gotta help or maybe some damn guards will b around for once
c) fuck this and evacuate through the window and if you remember correctly there's some roof underneath or stables or somethin

What sort of monster was this thing, and where did it come from?
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Post by: VoidSlayer on May 05, 2018, 03:03:55 am
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1to5

You decide to lead her to the healers. You don't get far before the maid clutches her stomach - or chest, you're not sure - in pain and leans downwards. Great, there will be a floor mess soon-

Ye gods! Instead of barfing like any normal sick person would do, a ribbed black appendage bursts from her mouth. In a cacophony of clicks, sizzles and very quiet shrieks, the maid stands upright, her chest bursting open and a set of four, scythe-like legs extending from her exposed ribcage, the visible bones wrapped in mass of black tentacles.

The horrid tentacle-ant-maid-thing then bursts a lobster-like tail from between its legs and goes as qaudruped. Its tongue-tube-thing extends towards you, and only now you notice triple row of needle-like teeth decorating its tight throat tunnel.

Drooling and clicking widly, this monster from other world advances towards you!!

a) fuckin hell run away and to the left there's guard tower there, or was it healers? fuk this why its always me
b) aaaah what the fuck time to run and go left that's were the mess hall is the masses gotta help or maybe some damn guards will b around for once
c) fuck this and evacuate through the window and if you remember correctly there's some roof underneath or stables or somethin

What sort of monster was this thing, and where did it come from?

That's a Zorkubt, an unfortunately common ailment in Methiant during the fall.  The parasite is passed through drinking water and heating or brewing normally kills it but a few people are infect each year despite this.  The tail actually has the egg cluster which it tries to get into a nearby body of water so the life cycle of the other gender can fertilize it.

The only curious thing is why it was so hostile, as they normally run from most encounters despite their great ability at self defense.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on May 05, 2018, 03:53:37 am
The horrid tentacle-ant-maid-thing then bursts a lobster-like tail from between its legs and goes as qaudruped. Its tongue-tube-thing extends towards you, and only now you notice triple row of needle-like teeth decorating its tight throat tunnel.

What sort of monster was this thing, and where did it come from?
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It was alien parasite, and came FROM THE OUTER SPAAAACE!! on a meteorite.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: omada on May 05, 2018, 10:21:27 am
The horrid tentacle-ant-maid-thing then bursts a lobster-like tail from between its legs and goes as qaudruped. Its tongue-tube-thing extends towards you, and only now you notice triple row of needle-like teeth decorating its tight throat tunnel.

What sort of monster was this thing, and where did it come from?

It was alien parasite, and came FROM THE OUTER SPAAAACE!! on a meteorite.
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Existence of aliens and life out of our planet confirmed



how magic works in OUTER SPAAAACEE!! and void?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on May 05, 2018, 10:28:55 am
how magic works in OUTER SPAAAACEE!! and void?

It works!
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Kashyyk on May 05, 2018, 12:08:14 pm
 According to legend, have dwarves and elves always been a part of the world, or did they appear after humanity?

I'm curious if there's an elfworld and dwarfworld somewhere.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on May 05, 2018, 12:30:21 pm
Hmm. I don't think I ever asked this but was magic always weakening throughout the game or did it start weakening after the start of the original SPAMKINGDOM? Could we have stopped in from weakening if we had taken actions to strengthen it earlier?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on May 05, 2018, 12:44:47 pm
According to legend, have dwarves and elves always been a part of the world, or did they appear after humanity?

I'm curious if there's an elfworld and dwarfworld somewhere.

Elves and dwarves are native to Spamworld, if that's what you're asking.

Currently only Orcs are 'immigrants' from outside world, in this case, Orcworld.

Hmm. I don't think I ever asked this but was magic always weakening throughout the game or did it start weakening after the start of the original SPAMKINGDOM? Could we have stopped in from weakening if we had taken actions to strengthen it earlier?

Gradually weakening since Descent (Year 0).
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on May 05, 2018, 01:32:05 pm
Ok. So the Pantheonist gods descending down to our world and the stuff they did while down here has something to do with the weakening of magic?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on May 05, 2018, 01:35:57 pm
No, they gave out magic to humans who didn't have any magic prior :V

By 500s-600s there was scant few magical humans left, and nowadays only elves and dwarves have any innate magic left from all peoples of spamworld.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on May 05, 2018, 01:44:56 pm
Ah. So the Gods actually strengthened magic but humans somehow managed to lose their magic over time? Hmm. Unfortunately for us it doesn't look like the gods are going to come down and start throwing magic around again any time soon. Well I guess all we can do is try to please the gods and hope they one day decide to award us some cool magic stuff again. *Begins plotting to convince the others to revoke religious freedom and spread mystical Pantheonism everywhere*
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Imic on May 05, 2018, 02:07:50 pm
Is it allowed to send lore suggestions in, or will my beutiful vision of what Dwarven society looks like ahve to remain headcanon for eternity?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Maximum Spin on May 05, 2018, 02:12:40 pm
Is it allowed to send lore suggestions in, or will my beutiful vision of what Dwarven society looks like ahve to remain headcanon for eternity?
If you can't send them to Haspen, send them to me. I've been planning to add a dwarf-based spamgame to my portfolio once I have the wherewithal to run games again.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on May 12, 2018, 01:37:29 pm
Could the Prince of Glory give us magic of some kind or at least affect the whole weakening magic situation in some way? I mean sure that is probably a long shot but eh don't know if ya don't ask right?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on May 12, 2018, 07:40:52 pm
Could the Prince of Glory give us magic of some kind or at least affect the whole weakening magic situation in some way? I mean sure that is probably a long shot but eh don't know if ya don't ask right?

Ask him v;
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Blood_Librarian on May 23, 2018, 12:40:30 pm
Could you describe how well we use gunpowder and things compared to everyone else? how advanced we are, how innovative it is and what we are doing?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on May 23, 2018, 12:54:34 pm
Could you describe how well we use gunpowder and things compared to everyone else? how advanced we are, how innovative it is and what we are doing?

You're doing on level of Calvendocians, who like you are having arquebuses and already developing down-scaled field artillery (they're masters of refining and ingredient production tho, and will surely outclass you one day).

Anyone touching you two uses larger guns and has yet to develop hand-held firearms.

Anyone east of Parsia lacks any Fireblood capability at the moment.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Blood_Librarian on May 23, 2018, 01:09:26 pm
Who are the Calvedonians?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on May 23, 2018, 01:12:03 pm
Who are the Calvedonians?

Western inventors of Fireblood, who in SPAMKINGDOM+ sold some stuff to Tven (or did Tven spies got it? I don't remember), which allowed first Blackheart cannons to be produced. The trade lasted for only a while but was enough to help kickstart Fireblood making in this region.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on May 23, 2018, 01:25:03 pm
Hmm. Is there anything unique or 'strange' about the Luathbasian cultures/peoples that make them stick out from the neighboring peoples? Like the Parsians, Damdamians, and even the Eldricans to some extent seem to be quite culturally different from us so it'd be kinda cool to know how Luathbasians look to them. Also how have the Gupta been doing since we kicked Parsia's ass for them? Also also how do they feel about us after we kicked Parsia's teeth in?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on May 23, 2018, 01:31:23 pm
Hmm. Is there anything unique or 'strange' about the Luathbasian cultures/peoples that make them stick out from the neighboring peoples? Like the Parsians, Damdamians, and even the Eldricans to some extent seem to be quite culturally different from us so it'd be kinda cool to know how Luathbasians look to them. Also how have the Gupta been doing since we kicked Parsia's ass for them? Also also how do they feel about us after we kicked Parsia's teeth in?

Luathbasians are source of warriors and magnet for strange beings since time immemorial, so sayeth foreign books (and that's why you should be wary of Luathbasians).

Gubta are busy recovering... and stuff. I don't think they've noticed your assistance.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on May 23, 2018, 01:41:46 pm
So basically they think we're a bunch of weirdo pagan warriors or something like that?  :P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on May 23, 2018, 02:48:06 pm
So basically they think we're a bunch of weirdo pagan warriors or something like that?  :P

Yeah. You're pre-Charlemagne Saxons with Celtic vibes :P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on May 23, 2018, 02:57:16 pm
That's actually pretty awesome. Though I think we beat who ever this world's Charlemagne is to the whole Empire business. Unless Cyl would count as this world's Charlemagne? Cause I'm pretty sure the Damdamians were suppose to be kinda like this world's Romans and their empire was kinda collapsing when Cyl came around to start punching everyone's teeth in. Though that make this a little early for him to be a Charlemagne figure.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on May 23, 2018, 03:32:41 pm
That's actually pretty awesome. Though I think we beat who ever this world's Charlemagne is to the whole Empire business. Unless Cyl would count as this world's Charlemagne? Cause I'm pretty sure the Damdamians were suppose to be kinda like this world's Romans and their empire was kinda collapsing when Cyl came around to start punching everyone's teeth in. Though that make this a little early for him to be a Charlemagne figure.

King Arthur then, with like 12 kids of Royal Table :P

And most of them died horribly too!
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on May 23, 2018, 04:29:28 pm
Yeah sounds about right. Though Cyl was a lot better at surviving than King Arthur. Cause damn I was actually starting to think he'd find a way to live forever if he kept surviving on and on like he did. Like I'm pretty sure he's the oldest ruler we've ever had.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Weirdsound on May 23, 2018, 04:34:14 pm
Yeah sounds about right. Though Cyl was a lot better at surviving than King Arthur. Cause damn I was actually starting to think he'd find a way to live forever if he kept surviving on and on like he did. Like I'm pretty sure he's the oldest ruler we've ever had.

Cyl specifically chose not to pursue longer life. I like to think on that day, the reaper breathed a sigh of relief.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on May 23, 2018, 04:36:52 pm
Yeah sounds about right. Though Cyl was a lot better at surviving than King Arthur. Cause damn I was actually starting to think he'd find a way to live forever if he kept surviving on and on like he did. Like I'm pretty sure he's the oldest ruler we've ever had.

Oldest 'player' character at age of death and longest-reigning ruler of SPAMKINGDOMs, yes ;v

From NPCs only Queen Dogethe of Cydwyl comes close; she died in 1125 IIRC and I remember having her fighting against Yoe I in 1081, and she succeeded to the throne in 1082 and if by 'late twenties' we take on her introduction as being about 28, that gives us ~43 years of rule and ~72 years old at time of death v;
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: RoseHeart on May 23, 2018, 10:05:13 pm
Read this as Spamkingdom H&H for a moment...
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on May 28, 2018, 09:31:19 pm
Since we're roughly analogous to the pre-Charlemagne pagan Saxons with celtic influences do we have any religious traditions that seem particularly "strange" or "savage" to our southern/eastern/western neighbors? Well besides the whole conflicting Polytheism/Monotheism traditions that separate us and our southren/western neighbors. Not really including our northern neighbors since they seem pretty religiously similar to us.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on May 29, 2018, 12:02:48 am
Since we're roughly analogous to the pre-Charlemagne pagan Saxons with celtic influences do we have any religious traditions that seem particularly "strange" or "savage" to our southern/eastern/western neighbors? Well besides the whole conflicting Polytheism/Monotheism traditions that separate us and our southren/western neighbors. Not really including our northern neighbors since they seem pretty religiously similar to us.

Pantheonism also makes use of sacrifices of animals. No one else around here does that, except Parsians (who sacrifice bulls and donkeys specifically).
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: melkor on May 30, 2018, 06:03:12 am
I have a question about marriage, specifically whom'st(?) dynasty children belong to.
Most of the time children will always belong to the dynasty of the male, but sometimes they belong to the female although that is rare.
You would need a special marriage for that to happen. How does this go in Spamkingdom? does this work the same?
 
In the case of our current female ruler will the child be of her dynasty(i actually don't know the name of her dynasty) or of Cyl
Also since bjern died his wife (Empress Ruberta I) is now the ruler, but she is from a different dynasty then bjern meaning that his dynasty (also dont know the name) is going to end with his daughter Rinilda
so we have 3 dynasty's 1 is of Rinilda 1 of Ruberta and 1 from Cyl.
seeing as 2 of these three dynasty lines could abruptly end could there be conflict? And how important are the dynasty lines in this world?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on May 30, 2018, 11:10:24 am
I have a question about marriage, specifically whom'st(?) dynasty children belong to.
Most of the time children will always belong to the dynasty of the male, but sometimes they belong to the female although that is rare.
You would need a special marriage for that to happen. How does this go in Spamkingdom? does this work the same?
 
In the case of our current female ruler will the child be of her dynasty(i actually don't know the name of her dynasty) or of Cyl
Also since bjern died his wife (Empress Ruberta I) is now the ruler, but she is from a different dynasty then bjern meaning that his dynasty (also dont know the name) is going to end with his daughter Rinilda
so we have 3 dynasty's 1 is of Rinilda 1 of Ruberta and 1 from Cyl.
seeing as 2 of these three dynasty lines could abruptly end could there be conflict? And how important are the dynasty lines in this world?

Oh no, legalities, my only weaknessss ;F

In Luathbas, Methiant and elsewhere in the region, its always by male. (Females can inherit stuff of their fathers, but they will be legally considered part of their husband's family).

Ruberta is Eldrican (of house Alda), and Cyl is Cydwyllian (of house Dogethe), so we have an interesting situation incoming:

Unless Deathan, somehow, manages to get Emperor'd, Yoean dynasty by its male line is going to get ejected from the throne (the female line persists via Eirika's marriage to Cidric, which produced Cyl of Cydwyl). There's also Ustwelf and Saenn (both sons of Cyl the Great), but Ustwelf is very happy with his life as a Pantheonist hermit and Saenn is running low far in Ysirene lands.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on May 30, 2018, 01:08:34 pm
Hmm. I wonder if we could end up with some line hoping? Like the succession switching back and forth between the male Yoean line and a Female Yoean line descended from Cyl of Cydwyl? It'd be kinda weird but cool. We could also just have a daughter of Cyl and Ruberta succeed and marry back into the Male line.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Weirdsound on May 30, 2018, 01:24:34 pm
Hmm. I wonder if we could end up with some line hoping? Like the succession switching back and forth between the male Yoean line and a Female Yoean line descended from Cyl of Cydwyl? It'd be kinda weird but cool. We could also just have a daughter of Cyl and Ruberta succeed and marry back into the Male line.

Frankly, we have elective succession, which is quickly becoming my favorite Imperial Institution. Why make crazy schemes for our lineage, when we can just put the best candidate for the job who happens to be remotely related to the Royal Family on the throne?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on May 30, 2018, 03:32:09 pm
If we play things right could we possibly see Luathbasian culture and Parsian Culture fuse? I've kinda been interested in the idea since SPAMKINGDOM 1. Luathbasians and Parsians have been my favorites of all the cultures/peoples we've encountered in the game so I just find the idea of getting to be both as a fused Luathbas-Parsian people/culture kind cool. That and we might finally be able to acquire the mythical harem for our ruler. :P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: mightymushroom on June 21, 2018, 12:18:40 pm
Okay, so I'm wondering: wizards supposedly are protecting humans from the perils of magic, and this statement is not directly limited to the workings of sorceresses. How do they feel about dwarven blood rituals? Or elven incantations (if that's the right word)? Is some flavor of magic goodlier than others?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on June 21, 2018, 12:33:09 pm
Okay, so I'm wondering: wizards supposedly are protecting humans from the perils of magic, and this statement is not directly limited to the workings of sorceresses. How do they feel about dwarven blood rituals? Or elven incantations (if that's the right word)? Is some flavor of magic goodlier than others?

Wizards protect humans from evil. Both dwarven magic and elven magic are related to forces of nature, and thus not inherently evil, even if that magic is making people blow up.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Criptfeind on June 21, 2018, 12:35:11 pm
Does that mean that the sorceress is inherently evil? I thought I recalled them being explained as inherently chaotic and capricious and cause natural disasters with their magic, but dang, if they are straight up evil maybe we should avoid them more.

Also if wizards are here to protect us from evil, why do we need to do a quest for their help? Or, perhaps, why do they wait for us to finish a quest to help? Sending us on a quest is all well and good but it seems like they'd really want to help us anyway and should go to work right as we agree, even if the quest goer fails or whatever.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on June 21, 2018, 12:40:51 pm
Because like Sorceresses, they're demigod beings and they want to see if mortals can earn their services.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Criptfeind on June 21, 2018, 12:43:16 pm
So they are less here to protect humanity from evil and more to amuse themselves watching people scurrying around?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on June 21, 2018, 12:47:08 pm
That's what demigods do v;
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: mightymushroom on June 22, 2018, 08:57:14 am
Does that mean that the sorceress is inherently evil? I thought I recalled them being explained as inherently chaotic and capricious and cause natural disasters with their magic, but dang, if they are straight up evil maybe we should avoid them more.

I read them as incarnations of self-indulgence, an excess of which is nearly the definition of evil in many philosophies. (No wonder Xaviera Roarecho acted insulted when Luath asked for good health for his family.)

It's less obvious whether mortals are inherently tainted by using them: our flying horse, for instance, has been fielded exclusively against dangerous creatures that we otherwise might have called a wizard to deal with. If a similar end is achieved, are we worse as a ruler? As a person?

(On the other hand, it's strongly implied that wizards do not kill Beasts, instead merely escorting them vaguely elsewhere. So maybe yeah we are that much darker.)
(And on the other other hand, lore strongly implies that the reduction/destruction of magic in the world is natural for humans. Sad, but who will blame us for being ourselves?)
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Kashyyk on June 22, 2018, 12:47:20 pm
What sort of reputation did Emperor Cyl (and Methiant by extension) have with our neighbours by the time he died? Did we get the one we wanted?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on June 22, 2018, 01:01:20 pm
What do you mean v:
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Weirdsound on June 22, 2018, 01:51:12 pm
Umm... Why is the main Spamkingdom thread locked?

Edit, now it isn't
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on June 22, 2018, 01:55:30 pm
Yeah someone on discord told me it was locked, so I unlocked it. No idea how it got locked in first place v:

/me le shrugs.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Kashyyk on June 22, 2018, 02:20:26 pm
What do you mean v:

We were going for a reputation as a solid friend who would help you out, but if you crossed him he would make sure you regretted it. Is that what neighbouring rulers thought of him or did they think something else?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on June 22, 2018, 02:23:03 pm
It's more of regular politics question, but no, at time of Cyl's death most of Methiantese neighbours viewed Yoean dynasty as short-tempered, greedy and slightly bit paranoid, so they preferred to keep relations simple and don't mingle too much with the royals except to provide kids and maybe get a shot at inheriting the vast empire. ;v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Criptfeind on June 22, 2018, 02:34:02 pm
Short tempered and a bit (rightfully imo) paranoid seems fair. I'm not sure about greedy, unless that's the trade commission only, but the npcs are generally all really greedy, so I guess it's not surprising that they see that in others.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on June 25, 2018, 12:16:22 pm
Hmm. What is the internal politics of Methiant looking like right now? Like besides the position of Monarch how do we organize the rest of the country's power structure? Are we still under a mostly feudal system? Do we appoint people to positions of power or is everything inherited? Do the Hurthlings have their own local Hurthling leaders who report to us or is it completely run under human/Methiantese management? How is Eval's chosen form of government going since they sworn vassalage under us?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on June 25, 2018, 01:35:03 pm
Hmm. What is the internal politics of Methiant looking like right now? Like besides the position of Monarch how do we organize the rest of the country's power structure? Are we still under a mostly feudal system? Do we appoint people to positions of power or is everything inherited? Do the Hurthlings have their own local Hurthling leaders who report to us or is it completely run under human/Methiantese management? How is Eval's chosen form of government going since they sworn vassalage under us?

Since time immemorial (as in before the old Luathbas), we're in some sort of Administrative Monarchy where officials have power over aristocracy, and the administrative structure was/is:

Monarch -> The Council (The Advisor, The Marshal, etc etc) -> City administrators/Province governors -> subject village elders & noblemen with holdings

Any nobility was tied to old dynasties and was barons and counts and dukes only because they owned some lands or had shiny titles bestowed upon them. If they do try to exert power its about feuds over a particular farmland or hunting area or a valley or such.

Actual Dukes are the only people with power and are vassal rulers of a Kingdom; in Duchy of Eval, it's Council of Princes/Families/they're not even sure themselves. It's a ruling council, and that's important.

Any true feudal systems with dukes, counts, barons with both political and territorial power was and is present only in the west and north. And since last century, Holy Damdamian Empire but we know how that one ended.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: mightymushroom on June 25, 2018, 02:19:12 pm
So we're more like the pre-medieval empires in governance.
Still, it's clear from recent comparison to the culture of the Damdamians that our hereditary landed nobility enjoy a great deal of privilege – be it without much power – or responsibilities – relative to the unlanded classes.


How widespread are our research/educational institutions in the Empire? Do the Fireblood Court and House of Learning actively recruit/teach/study things all over, or are they just a couple of buildings in the capital where sufficiently interested wandering scholars sometimes apply for membership?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on June 25, 2018, 02:23:51 pm
So we're more like the pre-medieval empires in governance.
Still, it's clear from recent comparison to the culture of the Damdamians that our hereditary landed nobility enjoy a great deal of privilege – be it without much power – or responsibilities – relative to the unlanded classes.

Yes, the noblemen or political persons do have priviledges, north from Methiant even more (is why they're so unwilling to give it up to administratively-bent governance).

How widespread are our research/educational institutions in the Empire? Do the Fireblood Court and House of Learning actively recruit/teach/study things all over, or are they just a couple of buildings in the capital where sufficiently interested wandering scholars sometimes apply for membership?

It's more like governmental institutions dedicated to national research. There are no public schools or universities in Methiant or anywhere near. Public schools are only in republican south. They do accept wandering scholars and pupils, but they mostly keep the study 'to Methiant and themselves' - they do not share fruits of research with commoners and definitely not with foreigners.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on June 25, 2018, 10:37:17 pm
Ah. I quite like our traditional form of government then. If I'm remembering right then animal sacrifice is accepted in Methiant so I'm wondering if Human sacrifice was ever a thing in Luathbas's ancient history or has it always been animals? Also what is the traditional view of slavery in the area? Also Also I know I've asked what other countries think of us in the past but I also want to know what our people think of the neighboring countries around us? Plus since we're loosely based on pre-Charlemagne Saxons [with some Celt vibes] do we have any laws/customs that are similar to old Germanic laws/customs like the Weregild?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on June 25, 2018, 11:50:46 pm
Ah. I quite like our traditional form of government then. If I'm remembering right then animal sacrifice is accepted in Methiant so I'm wondering if Human sacrifice was ever a thing in Luathbas's ancient history or has it always been animals? Also what is the traditional view of slavery in the area? Also Also I know I've asked what other countries think of us in the past but I also want to know what our people think of the neighboring countries around us? Plus since we're loosely based on pre-Charlemagne Saxons [with some Celt vibes] do we have any laws/customs that are similar to old Germanic laws/customs like the Weregild?

No human sacrifice for Pantheon and it also views slavery as worst offense to gods. I dunno what's weregild is so it's not in Methiant either ;v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Maximum Spin on June 25, 2018, 11:56:40 pm
I dunno what's weregild is so it's not in Methiant either ;v
Weregild is basically a fine for murder. It is the monetary price of a life.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: omada on June 30, 2018, 03:21:05 pm
SO hmmm,

does the firetube creation gave us any bonus somewhere on our nation?

It was said that special troops would use that, I laughed at the idea of a medieval black ops throwing granades and thinking about our shadowranks using it

but I never saw it being used anywhere. it was too small to count as a bonus on the army? or the first time the bonus was used we already had so many bonuses that we begun to get that "too many modifiers" every battle and we didn't saw how much it helped us?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on June 30, 2018, 08:26:47 pm
I dunno what's weregild is so it's not in Methiant either ;v
Weregild is basically a fine for murder. It is the monetary price of a life.

Oooh.

Dungeon for non-royal murder, execution for regicide (funnily, this is the merciful of the two). Attempted or successful, doesn't matter in Methiant.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Weirdsound on July 01, 2018, 01:30:13 pm
So I just noticed that Ruberta seems to be the only child of ageing parents. I know they are people of some importance in Eldrican. What becomes of their lands and titles when they die off? Obviously we can't send our only son and future emperor to be heir to a lesser noble, but would Eldrican inheritance law allow Rinilda to take over for them?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 01, 2018, 01:34:56 pm
They get given to other members of family with seniority and in the kingdom, if none are found, they go under direct rule of the Eldrican King.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: birdy51 on July 01, 2018, 03:55:01 pm
Would any of our kids have a claim to shake in the matter though?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 01, 2018, 04:08:52 pm
Not in Eldrican's eyes, nope.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on July 02, 2018, 11:34:10 pm
You know since our army has generally been one of the more invested parts of our nation since it was reformed into a professional standing force I'm wondering what kind of reputation our army has both in our Empire and in the countries surrounding us?

Also since the three Lauthbasian groups [Felosians, Methiantese, and Ceodwellions if I'm remembering correctly?] have been subsumed back into one nation have we seen any movement towards the three cultures fusing back into a singular Lauthbas culture or even just any cultural change in general? Though I will admit I wouldn't be surprised if there hasn't been much going on since it hasn't really been that long since the two other groups became our subjects.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 02, 2018, 11:54:53 pm
You know since our army has generally been one of the more invested parts of our nation since it was reformed into a professional standing force I'm wondering what kind of reputation our army has both in our Empire and in the countries surrounding us?

Also since the three Lauthbasian groups [Felosians, Methiantese, and Ceodwellions if I'm remembering correctly?] have been subsumed back into one nation have we seen any movement towards the three cultures fusing back into a singular Lauthbas culture or even just any cultural change in general? Though I will admit I wouldn't be surprised if there hasn't been much going on since it hasn't really been that long since the two other groups became our subjects.

It has a valid reputation of being fearsome, although Eldricans (and by proxy, Lametania/Rucus) believe they can beat you up with sheer allied numbers if it comes to blows.

If anything, the dominant culture will become Methiantese, replacing the other two and ultimately becoming the 'new' Luathbasian culture.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on July 03, 2018, 11:23:58 am
It has a valid reputation of being fearsome, although Eldricans (and by proxy, Lametania/Rucus) believe they can beat you up with sheer allied numbers if it comes to blows.

Those damn Damdamians/Damdamian lovers don't have a proper fear of our stubborn Luathbasian fury? *Prophet shakes fist* We'll correct that eventually! No one gets away with sullying the pride and honor of those of Lauthbas!

Anyway how much of a difference is there between Methiantese and the culture of Old Lauthbas?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 03, 2018, 01:11:30 pm
Anyway how much of a difference is there between Methiantese and the culture of Old Lauthbas?

Luatbasians, for example, did not host plays or mingle with non-Pantheonists, for example :P

Soon enough, all resemblance to Luathbas will be in nothing but its roots and old family traditions. Sad, but inevitable, c'est la vie v;
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on July 03, 2018, 11:34:09 pm
I refuse to believe it's inevitable! Lauthbas forever! This is surely some evil Damdamian plot! We must return to the true Lauthbasian way! The non-Pantheonist must be cleansed As soon as Ruberta dies my votes are going straight for reclaiming our rightful Lauthbasian land from Eldrican! That was the last condition we needed for restoring the title of Lauthbas right?

Also what do our people think of Damdamians and their crappy Damed Worship? I hope they hate them as much as I do.


Also also what do people think of Cyl I now that he's been died for a while? How does his memory live on?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 03, 2018, 11:59:08 pm
Also also what do people think of Cyl I now that he's been died for a while? How does his memory live on?

He was Great, they're sure at least of that.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on July 04, 2018, 12:18:59 am
Hmm. How is our army organized? Like I know it's a professional army but it'd be cool to know more details on it.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Criptfeind on July 04, 2018, 05:58:23 am
Has Damed Worship worship, at least that in our southlands, managed to calm down a bit from their kill all non humans stance? Or is that more or less still how it is?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 04, 2018, 08:27:12 am
Hmm. How is our army organized? Like I know it's a professional army but it'd be cool to know more details on it.

It's professional army organized into professional smaller armies whom are divided into smaller units.

Yes, it's very professional like that.

Has Damed Worship worship, at least that in our southlands, managed to calm down a bit from their kill all non humans stance? Or is that more or less still how it is?

It still doesn't see nonhumans as anything better than trash (or cheap workforce, if they're feeling generous), but with Damdamian supernation having crashed into smaller units, so did the hardcore crusadery and super-authority of Cult of Damed break apart.

If anything, any central religious authority is located in Damedia, but it doesn't have the same amount of political power in secular states surrounding it as it had in the past.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on July 04, 2018, 10:49:37 pm
You know now that I think of it... what is the Pantheonist stance on non-humans exactly? I know that it can't be negative since they've never complained about our dealings with them in the past but I've also never heard their thoughts on them before either.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 05, 2018, 08:51:51 am
You know now that I think of it... what is the Pantheonist stance on non-humans exactly? I know that it can't be negative since they've never complained about our dealings with them in the past but I've also never heard their thoughts on them before either.

No idea to be honest. It's a NTOT V: (never thought of that).

I think someone asked this question in very first SPAMKINGDOM, or at least a question very similar to this. Check maybe there?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: omada on July 05, 2018, 12:26:39 pm
I didn't found in the first game

but in the second I found this


It turns out that many of Pantheonists from old Luathbas are clashing heads with the more and more strict Singularists, and the product of it was Acceptant heresy. Preached at first by elderly Singularist priest who converted, Suis of Einvad, within last year the heretical movement had reached almost ten thousand followers in the southern cities.

Acceptant heresy preaches that the Singularist faith had forgotten its roots, and had eschewed the tolerant and open-minded tendencies of many orders and temples of Pantheon, instead steering into totalitarian bent like the xenophobic Cult of Damed. 'Acceptants' are more accepting (hence the name) to those of different faith, different preferences for love, foreigners from different places, as well as happily allow Hurthling and Dwarven worshippers and even acolytes (not that many join, though).

It maybe answer that pantheonists are tolerant or open minded to it.

But that raise another question

did the acceptant heresy became the rule of the singularists? it is still a minor religion?  only exist in Ceodwell? Got forgotten by the GM and the hearts of the people and died?  :P

I remember that "shortly" after this we got a problem with singularists and heresy guys and decided to exile a large portion of both, and ceodwellians adopted them and mocked us
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 05, 2018, 01:31:53 pm
did the acceptant heresy became the rule of the singularists? it is still a minor religion?  only exist in Ceodwell? Got forgotten by the GM and the hearts of the people and died?  :P

I remember that "shortly" after this we got a problem with singularists and heresy guys and decided to exile a large portion of both, and ceodwellians adopted them and mocked us

Nope, Acceptants kinda lost all its ground during the 'Warlord Age' between Tven and Methiant, when the Alldivines brought in their warrior-priests and pragmatic teachings. Singularists did mellow out a bit, but are still less tolerant than Pantheonists (and that's why Singularists are the third and smallest of all 3 Methiantese religions at the moment).
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on July 05, 2018, 11:10:47 pm
How is the religious situation in the Empire doing lately anyway? Like how is Pantheonism doing? Alldivines? The minor cults that used to be protected?.... Evil Damed worship?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 05, 2018, 11:49:34 pm
How is the religious situation in the Empire doing lately anyway? Like how is Pantheonism doing? Alldivines? The minor cults that used to be protected?.... Evil Damed worship?

I'm going to address that soon in game tho 'v.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: omada on July 06, 2018, 03:07:30 am
Oh, when I was looking about what was the pantheonist view on non-humans I found that there were in the first spamgame a group of merchant lizard people, short tempered, colors from green to brown, no black (or was from black to brown and no green?)

they just did shit in the same day they steped luathbas, got banned and they decided that they will never come back, aparently they are from far far away after gutba lands

And they use "S" in their phrasssssssessss a lot

Sssso are they related to the lizardsssss guysssss that we had to deal in ssssspamkingdom2?


Also, the centaurs that we tried to recruit? did they managed to get past gutba or they culture got they killed before?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 06, 2018, 10:58:56 am
Sssso are they related to the lizardsssss guysssss that we had to deal in ssssspamkingdom2?

Let me just say that in this world there's heck a lot of reptilean overlords to choose from ;v

Also, the centaurs that we tried to recruit? did they managed to get past gutba or they culture got they killed before?

An excellent question that could be very generously answered if only some intrepid explorers and scholars mounted an expedition that way, don't you think v;
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: omada on July 06, 2018, 01:33:51 pm
good point  :P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Kashyyk on July 08, 2018, 06:13:14 am
Now that we've had access to orcworld for a while, and have been sending troops and scholars through, how well known is the portal?

Is it common knowledge in Methiant? Do our neighbours know much about it?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 08, 2018, 06:16:05 am
Now that we've had access to orcworld for a while, and have been sending troops and scholars through, how well known is the portal?

Is it common knowledge in Methiant? Do our neighbours know much about it?

People know about it, others know about it, nobody bothers because they're sure Methiant won't let them in. The 'new world' hype has kinda died off, especially when the toxic dust storm and sealing of the tunnel happened.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on July 08, 2018, 10:45:51 pm
Have court wizards ever been a thing in this worlds history? I'm kinda curious because we've given the choice to offer a place in our court to wizards to pay for their help before if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 08, 2018, 11:42:36 pm
Have court wizards ever been a thing in this worlds history? I'm kinda curious because we've given the choice to offer a place in our court to wizards to pay for their help before if I remember correctly.

No.

Just because you were given that choice doesn't mean a Wizard would accept it (aka it was to road you toward epic quests).
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 21, 2018, 01:24:18 am
shouldn’t the cult of damed hate the kingdom of eldrican for dealing with the filth known as dwarven kind?.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 21, 2018, 02:22:49 am
shouldn’t the cult of damed hate the kingdom of eldrican for dealing with the filth known as dwarven kind?.

Not nowadays, not really.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A
Post by: Basil ii on July 21, 2018, 02:26:22 am
shouldn’t the cult of damed hate the kingdom of eldrican for dealing with the filth known as dwarven kind?.

Not nowadays, not really.
so the cult tolerate the dwarfs but not anything else?.

Or maybe it is that the more fanatical members are starting to die off.

It likely that the dwarven goods is simply to valuable to be thrown aside.





Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: omada on July 21, 2018, 05:56:07 pm
In game it was said somewhere that the eldrican had too much trade ties with the dwarves (they sold crops and trinkets to them), and when the cult of the damed took place their racist tendencies got weaker

if somewhere is likely to create a Damed heresy it's there

holy fuck, maybe that will be the way their huge alliance can dissolve



So, what is the religious census now?

before it was suggested that we had three state religions because pantheonist singularism and alldivines were the big ones

but it seens that the majority of our population is pantheonist now, how much we have from the others? 60% pantheonists 15% singularist 15%alldivines 10% others?

also, how work the religious structure? can the archpriest/priests be monarcs/nobles at the same time? is it possible that if we decide to put that state relgion edict at work we might use the chance to make that plan of us becoming the head of the religion?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 21, 2018, 06:10:42 pm
So, what is the religious census now?

before it was suggested that we had three state religions because pantheonist singularism and alldivines were the big ones

but it seens that the majority of our population is pantheonist now, how much we have from the others? 60% pantheonists 15% singularist 15%alldivines 10% others?

also, how work the religious structure? can the archpriest/priests be monarcs/nobles at the same time? is it possible that if we decide to put that state relgion edict at work we might use the chance to make that plan of us becoming the head of the religion?

Majority means at least 66% of populace is adhering to Pantheonist faith ;v

All the faiths in Methiant and elsewhere stick to the 'elected by high clerics' position of the head of the church. Only the Gubtan faith is different, cuz it places the First Emperor as god and his sons being sons of a god.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 23, 2018, 10:07:32 am
So why are the dwarfs dying out when they seem to prosper. does the strength of magic effect fertility of the race.?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Maximum Spin on July 23, 2018, 02:02:21 pm
Totally a lore question, don't tell me otherwise: Did you forget you made SPAMCOLONY? :P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 23, 2018, 02:22:22 pm
So why are the dwarfs dying out when they seem to prosper. does the strength of magic effect fertility of the race.?

I'm plenty sure that question was answered somewhere, just don't know where ;v

Totally a lore question, don't tell me otherwise: Did you forget you made SPAMCOLONY? :P

No, I didn't forget, am still preparing a good number system for the rolls v;
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 23, 2018, 02:27:06 pm
So is the steel of the dwarves lesser artifacts?. [Or just superior metal working?]
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Maximum Spin on July 23, 2018, 02:38:17 pm
So is the steel of the dwarves lesser artifacts?. [Or just superior metal working?]
...I think it's just steel

The rest of us don't have steel yet.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 23, 2018, 02:43:40 pm
So is the steel of the dwarves lesser artifacts?. [Or just superior metal working?]
...I think it's just steel

The rest of us don't have steel yet.
oh
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 23, 2018, 02:45:03 pm
So is the steel of the dwarves lesser artifacts?. [Or just superior metal working?]
...I think it's just steel

The rest of us don't have steel yet.

Dwarven steel is actually a special alloy of iron, mithril and few other minerals (chromium mostly). It has twice better resistance values while losing none of elascity and sharpness of normal steel sheet.

No human can dig deep enough survive the heat of depth where mithril powder occurs, is why only dwarves make it ;v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 23, 2018, 03:12:13 pm
So what could humans do when they had magic did they make artifacts?.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 23, 2018, 03:19:31 pm
So what could humans do when they had magic did they make artifacts?.

The (relatively) ancient Tygwand dynasty had few princes who knew magic and were the last pure humans to make artifacts.

They were around the place in, uh 400s? 500s? I'm sure their time was mentioned in that post when the Coronation Staff was dug out from their tombs.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Kashyyk on July 23, 2018, 03:20:31 pm
Was the Coronation Staff ever said to have magic powers, or is it just a fancy relic?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 23, 2018, 03:24:51 pm
Was the Coronation Staff ever said to have magic powers, or is it just a fancy relic?

That question was recently sort-of-answered, by dwarves :P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 23, 2018, 03:34:16 pm
How big is our culture influence in nearby cultures?.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 23, 2018, 03:36:50 pm
How big is our culture influence in nearby cultures?.

That question has also been answered not so long ago.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 23, 2018, 03:42:28 pm
so where did the first Gupta emperor come from.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 23, 2018, 03:44:02 pm
so where did the first Gupta emperor come from.

Eh, dunno :v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 23, 2018, 03:46:41 pm
Could there be theoretically in the future be a school edict.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 23, 2018, 04:00:01 pm
Could there be theoretically in the future be a school edict.

What do you mean by that? There's already a royal university going on :V
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: birdy51 on July 23, 2018, 05:03:42 pm
My guess is that he's asking whether there would ever be a national would there be a national system of tutelage, or a formal introduction for government intervention in the education of children.

My own guess is that something like that wouldn't happen until the rights of all Methiantese men be respected and declared, whereupon it becomes necessary to see that every child, from the peasantry to the bourgeoise receive some nominal form of edumahcations in accordance with those rights. 

...Oh God, that almost sounds like a member of the Bill of Rights faction might say. What scandalous utterances! Education... For PEASANT CHILDREN! *shudders*
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 23, 2018, 11:08:08 pm
My guess is that he's asking whether there would ever be a national would there be a national system of tutelage, or a formal introduction for government intervention in the education of children.


this is what I meant.i mean Prussia had a absolute monarchy but with an education system in place.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 23, 2018, 11:46:27 pm
My guess is that he's asking whether there would ever be a national would there be a national system of tutelage, or a formal introduction for government intervention in the education of children.


this is what I meant.i mean Prussia had a absolute monarchy but with an education system in place.

Ah, then probably nowhere in near future v;
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 24, 2018, 12:02:41 am
So if theoretically if doge could marry a dwarven princess would their children be able to craft artifacts?.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 24, 2018, 12:04:25 am
So if theoretically if doge could marry a dwarven princess would their children be able to craft artifacts?.

First Doge and dwarven princess would have to make kids, and that's nearly impossible v:

Plus, she would need to me a runesmith, and that caste isn't nobility ;v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 24, 2018, 12:08:55 am
Would they at the very least get a much longer lifespan.WAIT A MINUTE CASTE SYSTEM WHAT!.[rune smiths are not nobility? Is the warrior caste on top?]
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Maximum Spin on July 24, 2018, 12:55:16 am
Yeah, I want to hear more about this too.

so I can steal it for my game which is technically set in the same universe
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: TankKit on July 24, 2018, 08:54:35 am
How well known is Methiant?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 24, 2018, 10:22:34 am
How well known is Methiant?

You guys received a delegation of priests from Ivonia a moment ago, take a guess V:
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Criptfeind on July 24, 2018, 11:25:38 am
I have a question, how important are family lines and how far do they stretch and still stay important? Once our son is on the throne, the kids of the union we're considering now would be third cousins I think, that's pretty far away. Will they have any real relevance to us anymore? Will these family lines eventually fad away at some point and just become part of the background nobility of Methiant? Or do they still get tracked and we'll have to manage their marriages and stuff?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 24, 2018, 11:37:25 am
I have a question, how important are family lines and how far do they stretch and still stay important? Once our son is on the throne, the kids of the union we're considering now would be third cousins I think, that's pretty far away. Will they have any real relevance to us anymore? Will these family lines eventually fad away at some point and just become part of the background nobility of Methiant? Or do they still get tracked and we'll have to manage their marriages and stuff?

Dynasties only look forward and sideways, never backwards, when trying to establish who is important in the line to the throne.

Basically it means that once the father's son ascends to the throne, his uncles have nothing to do but suck it up. Unless the son dies childless, of course, then people trace the lineages.

Of course with Elective system you guys made lots of family member at least slightly pissed off, because not only they can get passed over when tallying a heir, they can be passed over for a distant cousin.

Fortunately for you, none of family members after Cyl had many kids getting anywhere near to having political power v;
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on July 24, 2018, 01:45:27 pm
Has us hiring so many Sorceresses slowed down the local decline of magic any? I'm just curious because I think I remember you saying something about hiring Sorceresses temporarily increasing the magic levels of the local area back when I was asking all those questions about magic.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: omada on July 24, 2018, 01:47:41 pm
1.Hmmm, okay, I remember that dwarves don't reproduce with humans

but elfs do so...

ignoring the fact that a lineage with elf blood means that there will be a rain of elven assassins after you, what are the other influences? closer to make (at least our direct lineage) magical again, albeit not pure humans?

2.what was the reason that humans stopped being "pures"?

3. Do we really got any chance to make humans magical again?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 24, 2018, 01:51:45 pm
Can hurtlings reproduce with a human?.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: omada on July 24, 2018, 01:56:05 pm
Can hurtlings reproduce with a human?.

I need to brainwash myself now
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 24, 2018, 02:00:16 pm
1.Hmmm, okay, I remember that dwarves don't reproduce with humans

but elfs do so...

ignoring the fact that a lineage with elf blood means that there will be a rain of elven assassins after you, what are the other influences? closer to make (at least our direct lineage) magical again, albeit not pure humans?

2.what was the reason that humans stopped being "pures"?

3. Do we really got any chance to make humans magical again?

1. None, unless the elfman hybrid moves to Tisilenteliya and works hella hard to get into politics. But hey, 'I banged an elven princess' is a rightful acheevo!

2. Too much time spent on warfare, breeding, consuming, and not being one with nature or pursuing lengthy mystical rituals ("I will die by 40 I ain't got time for dis"). Elves, who live up to half a millenium, and dwarves, that easily get to 150s/200s, have plenty time to do stuff.

3. Very slim, and that's a long term project for next few hundred years ;v

Can hurtlings reproduce with a human?.

Like with elves, it will produce many stillbirths and some very interesting deformities.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 24, 2018, 02:04:51 pm
so mystic rituals strengthen magic inside a person?.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on July 24, 2018, 02:08:02 pm
I don't care how slim it is! Magic is more than worth it! Magic, Pantheonism, and Luathbas [*Prophet eyes the Duchy of Koi*] are my eternal goals in this game.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 24, 2018, 02:09:51 pm
I don't care how slim it is! Magic is more than worth it! Magic, Pantheonism, and Luathbas [*Prophet eyes the Duchy of Koi*] are my eternal goals in this game.
if it is possible then 1+ unlimited power!.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Criptfeind on July 24, 2018, 02:10:42 pm
Screw magic, that shits for dwarves and elves. Better we go the tech route and wipe out/make into fantasy the other races.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 24, 2018, 02:13:42 pm
Screw magic, that shits for dwarves and elves. Better we go the tech route and wipe out/make into fantasy the other races.
why not both and have mad scientist working in our labs.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: TankKit on July 24, 2018, 02:14:58 pm
Yeah I honestly don't care about magic either, I just want Methiant to survive. Also, why should we curse ourselves with the name of an old, failed kingdom? Out with the old kingdom, in with the new empire. Besides, any efforts we make to get magic will just be ruined by the other humans anyway so it's kind of pointless unless we somehow manage to make all of the humans in the world dedicate themselves to magic, which ain't happening.

Also I believe it's been mentioned that magic and tech are both mutually exclusive, could be wrong though.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 24, 2018, 02:18:19 pm
I just went back to that post and I do believe they did indeed refer to it as a Ancient Wand. I have to agree that this must be investigated!

It makes the people believe the staff holder's ascension is perfectly legit.

There you go, a cross-post for once ;v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: crazyabe on July 24, 2018, 02:19:23 pm
...If thats true, then... shit.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Criptfeind on July 24, 2018, 02:35:07 pm
Screw magic, that shits for dwarves and elves. Better we go the tech route and wipe out/make into fantasy the other races.
why not both and have mad scientist working in our labs.

Maths is why. Let me demonstrate.

Elves and Dwarfs=Bad
Magic=Elves and Dwarfs
QED: Magic=Bad
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 24, 2018, 02:37:11 pm
Okay you might have a point but what about the hurlings?.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Criptfeind on July 24, 2018, 02:42:28 pm
Hurthlings have been noted to be the second least magical race, behind humans, and have the potential to survive in a world without magic, so they are fine.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 24, 2018, 02:48:52 pm
But they would lose their magical green thumb.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Criptfeind on July 24, 2018, 02:49:56 pm
It doesn't seem to be that much magic so much as just that they are knowledgeable about farming.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on July 24, 2018, 08:28:56 pm
I don't really think of Dwarves and Elves = bad though. In fact since we've come to an agreement with the Dwarves I'm of the opinion that Dwarves = good. It's just costs to much money and blood to maintain constant hostile relations with the Dwarves. I think the only reason we did it for a while there is because Cyl the Great wasn't a man the backed down from anything... even if he couldn't realistically win in the situation. You had to push really hard to get him to admit defeat and even then it was only temporary most of the time. Anyway maintaining a beneficial and prosperous relationship with the Dwarves is better than fighting them.

Also what Human magic like back when it was a thing?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 24, 2018, 11:59:48 pm
Also what Human magic like back when it was a thing?

No idea v:

But considering humans are the greatest copycats anywhere, it probably was half-flashy-sorceress and half-item-crafting-dwarven magics.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 25, 2018, 12:35:46 am
Do the hurtlings have a religion?.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 25, 2018, 10:39:54 am
Do the hurtlings have a religion?.

Some sort of agricultural pantheon, yes. They keep small altars and house-gods-idols-to-pray-to at their homes.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 25, 2018, 10:42:15 am
So what are the possible defects you get when mommy hurling loves daddy human very much. 
[other than sterility]
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 25, 2018, 10:43:21 am
So what are the possible defects you get when mommy hurling loves daddy human very much.

Death.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 25, 2018, 10:46:19 am
So if the civilizations of the world where to collapse would magic increase?.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 25, 2018, 11:12:46 am
No idea V:!
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 25, 2018, 11:32:55 am
So Does the current emperor of Gupta like us due to the fact that we indirectly helped him come to power?.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 25, 2018, 11:38:29 am
This isn't a lore question V:
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 25, 2018, 11:39:30 am
So do the dwarfs purchase slaves if so where from?.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 25, 2018, 11:41:43 am
So do the dwarfs purchase slaves if so where from?.

Anyone who sells them, duh. Damdamians, Parsians, Calvendocians, formerly also Eldricans and Nomads and even more formerly, Orcs.

They also force into slavery those of their human subjects who have outstanding debts and are unable to pay them after a time.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 25, 2018, 11:45:18 am
So is there a slave overseer caste in dwarf society or does that duty belong to the rune-smiths/merchant caste or is it a subset of one of those two.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 25, 2018, 01:29:20 pm
So is there a slave overseer caste in dwarf society or does that duty belong to the rune-smiths/merchant caste or is it a subset of one of those two.

No idea :v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 25, 2018, 01:36:43 pm
So how does the caste system work in dwarf society?.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 25, 2018, 01:57:22 pm
So how does the caste system work in dwarf society?.

Uh, it works :v

Why you keep asking questions about such random things?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 25, 2018, 02:32:32 pm
[i am quite curious about your world] so have the gods weakened due to the decline of magic?.
If so could they once send powerful avatars on earth.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 25, 2018, 02:44:29 pm
[i am quite curious about your world] so have the gods weakened due to the decline of magic?.
If so could they once send powerful avatars on earth.

No idea and no idea :v

Your questions would have a point *IF* I had a whole lorebook at ready, which I don't, because I make things up as we go and when needed.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Basil ii on July 25, 2018, 02:55:07 pm
[i am quite curious about your world] so have the gods weakened due to the decline of magic?.
If so could they once send powerful avatars on earth.

No idea and no idea :v

Your questions would have a point *IF* I had a whole lorebook at ready, which I don't, because I make things up as we go and when needed.
thank you for your time i will stop posting for a while.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on July 25, 2018, 11:32:20 pm
Who was your favorite ruler that we've had over the various games Haspen? Also I know that interactions with other religions spawned stuff like the Singularists and the Alldivine in the Luathbas region but is the reverse true? Has Pantheonism had any impact on other religions/countries/regions?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Haspen on July 25, 2018, 11:55:12 pm
Who was your favorite ruler that we've had over the various games Haspen?

Houlandin III of Luathbas, duh.

Also I know that interactions with other religions spawned stuff like the Singularists and the Alldivine in the Luathbas region but is the reverse true? Has Pantheonism had any impact on other religions/countries/regions?

Its Dahnian variant propagated north and replaced the native Hel(liste) animism between games 2 and 3.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Prophet on July 26, 2018, 01:10:18 am
Ah. Was Houlandin III the Half-Elf or the one who married an elf? Can't remember which he was off the top of my head. Either way it's not that surprising. The original Houlandins where pretty awesome.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Criptfeind on July 26, 2018, 01:18:41 am
Houlandin III was the Half-Elf.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on July 29, 2018, 03:45:16 pm
I wonder if the sorceress magic gave us cancer. Or maybe just bad luck.

The truth is out there! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpqffgak7To)
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Prophet on July 29, 2018, 03:51:28 pm
Well while were on the subject of mysteries... why do I get a feeling that it's the Wizards who stole our artifacts as some kind of punishment for hiring Sorceresses so much?

I know humans are currently the least magical race in the world but what is the most magical race in the world right now?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on July 29, 2018, 04:08:25 pm
I know humans are currently the least magical race in the world but what is the most magical race in the world right now?

Elves.

A large gap in magical capabilities later, you get Dwarves.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Prophet on July 29, 2018, 04:13:06 pm
Since Elves can produce healthy children with humans what would happen if a bloodline of humans kept breeding with Elves?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on July 29, 2018, 05:14:20 pm
Since Elves can produce healthy children with humans what would happen if a bloodline of humans kept breeding with Elves?

Probably they would retain more and more elfin features. 8 - 10 or so generations down the line, magic-wielding kids would appear.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Prophet on July 29, 2018, 05:27:41 pm
... I now support breeding with Elves at all costs. Also oh hey a name change!

So what are the effects of having Pantheonism as our state religion both short and long term?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: crazyabe on July 29, 2018, 05:52:59 pm
... I now support breeding with Elves at all costs. Also oh hey a name change!

So what are the effects of having Pantheonism as our state religion both short and long term?
>More Support from Pantheists now
>Less Heresy and invading religion in the long run
>However, if we get Told off by the priests or remove it Some... "Important" groups of people will probably get pissed off at us.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: auzewasright on July 29, 2018, 08:33:22 pm
... I now support breeding with Elves at all costs. Also oh hey a name change!

So what are the effects of having Pantheonism as our state religion both short and long term?
>More Support from Pantheists now
>Less Heresy and invading religion in the long run
>However, if we get Told off by the priests or remove it Some... "Important" groups of people will probably get pissed off at us.
Also, it costs more money as the Pantheonists, unlike the Singularists, demand costly shrines and temples.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: auzewasright on July 29, 2018, 08:47:04 pm
Yeah I honestly don't care about magic either, I just want Methiant to survive. Also, why should we curse ourselves with the name of an old, failed kingdom? Out with the old kingdom, in with the new empire.
I think of it as Sardinia-Peidmont and Italy. The point being that all of the varying cultures were Italian, and thus declaring a unified Italian state, irregardless of the fact that there was the Kingdom of Italy a millennia earlier, and that it fell. Same as how there are a bunch of different cultures that are all Lauthbasian, and thus by becoming Lauthbas we secure the unity of these different cultures. We don't need to evoke the old kingdom som much as declare an new, unified (hopefully to be singularist) empire.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Weirdsound on July 29, 2018, 09:04:59 pm
Alright, I'm not 100% sure if these questions qualify as lore questions, but I'll ask them nonetheless because they are important.

1: Do we still have a Laz0rhorse, or did it leave when Ruberta died?
2: Which relatives did we lose to the plague? Does our new emperor still have two surviving sisters?
3: If Cylia is alive, do we know her trait? She is older than Doge/Yoe IV, so I'm guessing the information would be available.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on July 29, 2018, 11:52:57 pm
So what are the effects of having Pantheonism as our state religion both short and long term?

Costlier temples, for sure.

Pantheonist support if you are buddies with them and bad things start to happen.

2: Which relatives did we lose to the plague? Does our new emperor still have two surviving sisters?
3: If Cylia is alive, do we know her trait? She is older than Doge/Yoe IV, so I'm guessing the information would be available.

2. Couple cousins on Hein's side. Both sisters still alive.
3. Wise.

As for The Flying Horse, I will think about it later.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Prophet on July 30, 2018, 11:20:07 am
So from what I can tell we can expect Yoe IV as a Hedonist to be getting "Busy" a lot. What else can we expect to arise from that trait?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on July 30, 2018, 11:23:48 am
So from what I can tell we can expect Yoe IV as a Hedonist to be getting "Busy" a lot. What else can we expect to arise from that trait?

There will be a chance that he will 'automatically' approve of lavish parties, parades, funerals etc.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Prophet on July 30, 2018, 11:28:52 am
Will Hedonist... finally give us the chance to obtain the ever elusive harem? Since he doesn't seem to be the type to be satisfied with only one.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on July 30, 2018, 11:31:49 am
Will Hedonist... finally give us the chance to obtain the ever elusive harem? Since he doesn't seem to be the type to be satisfied with only one.

He will bone people before, during and after marriage, so be prepared for lots of bastards, scandals, divorces and pretenders somewhere in the 1200s v;
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: birdy51 on July 30, 2018, 11:34:45 am
I imagine that the people will get used to it eventually. "Oh look. Another bastard. Wonder how that happened..."
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Prophet on July 30, 2018, 11:47:50 am
Yoe IV is looking like he's shaping up to be another Cyl the Great with all those good traits of his... except with the scandalous personal life problems of Cyl's children too.

Also not going to lie... I have this weird image in my head of Yoe IV demanding a country's princes/princesses at the end of wars instead of actually important stuff like land and money. Just cause he's such a horndog.  :P

Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on July 30, 2018, 11:52:52 am
Also not going to lie... I have this weird image in my head of Yoe IV demanding a country's princes/princesses at the end of wars instead of actually important stuff like land and money. Just cause he's such a horndog.  :P

;vc

/me scribbles down for the future use.

Prophet u genius.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: TankKit on July 30, 2018, 11:57:14 am
Damn it Prohpet, you gave him ideas! Never give a GM ideas!
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Prophet on July 30, 2018, 12:55:04 pm
How's the City of Luathbas doing anyway? We haven't heard from it in a while so I hope it's doing fine.

Also how are the Hurthlings doing? Have we finally seen them spread outside of their valley a bit?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Weirdsound on July 30, 2018, 12:55:42 pm
Also, did anything of note happen in Orcworld during the Timeskip?

Edit: What are the details of the Peace Treaty that ended the great war with Rossama? How long is it good for, and is Methiant bound by it in any way?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on July 30, 2018, 03:49:07 pm
How's the City of Luathbas doing anyway? We haven't heard from it in a while so I hope it's doing fine.

Also how are the Hurthlings doing? Have we finally seen them spread outside of their valley a bit?

It's prospering, although it's fame as centre of theological thought has dimmed somewhat.

They're mostly in their valley, some families has moved out to southern Cydwyl or Tvenian area though. Still, they don't like moving a lot.

Also, did anything of note happen in Orcworld during the Timeskip?

Edit: What are the details of the Peace Treaty that ended the great war with Rossama? How long is it good for, and is Methiant bound by it in any way?

Nothing at all. No delegations or attacks occured, which makes the soldiers a bit complacent.

Rosamanas stay east of Bloodpeak Mountains, non-Rosamanas stay in the west of them. So far it has held since its conception amongst all five parties (Rosamana, Helliste, Methiant, Cydwyl and Parsia).
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Hotfire90 on July 31, 2018, 03:06:16 pm
What happened to the lizardlings and lizard eggs we captured from the Rosamanas?

And do we still have the evidence of Eldrican's involvement of sending assassins after Cyl I and his wife?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on July 31, 2018, 03:10:22 pm
What happened to the lizardlings and lizard eggs we captured from the Rosamanas?

Being spoils of war, most if not all of soldiers sold the eggs or made omelettes with them. Lizards were kept as pets or sold away as well.

And do we still have the evidence of Eldrican's involvement of sending assassins after Cyl I and his wife?

The what evidence now? v:
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Hotfire90 on July 31, 2018, 03:20:10 pm
The spymaster concluded (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=164245.msg7674710;topicseen#msg7674710) that the Eldricans had sent assassins after Cyl I. On that note, what happened to the copy of the evidence that was given to the eldrican envoy? (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=164245.msg7684645#msg7684645)
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on July 31, 2018, 03:30:35 pm
The spymaster concluded (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=164245.msg7674710;topicseen#msg7674710) that the Eldricans had sent assassins after Cyl I. On that note, what happened to the copy of the evidence that was given to the eldrican envoy? (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=164245.msg7684645#msg7684645)

Well yeah, they did try to kill Cyl I back in the day, when the original dynasty was in power.

As for the copy of evidence, its probably in some archive, long dismissed and forgotten by the GM their spies and courtiers alike.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: omada on July 31, 2018, 03:40:30 pm
It was so much time ago that it weighs almost nothing to most people. And it isn't the same dinasty

so...


1)A long long time ago we sent scouts to the mountains where the birdmen 2.0 were probably located in the orcworld they haven't never returned, and we decided to send someone else to find then, it was before the doomstorm

did people just said "oh, damn it, we are not sending another expedition and better they fuck themselves" and never tried to explore again?


2)The imediate terrains around the orcfortress is what exactly? sand/desert?

3) the birdmen 1.0, the ones that killed Leath, there are still tribes out there? they have relation with the birds of the orcworld? I wouldn't be surprised that the birds of the orcworld found their way into our lands and created two societies :v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on July 31, 2018, 03:54:57 pm
1)A long long time ago we sent scouts to the mountains where the birdmen 2.0 were probably located in the orcworld they haven't never returned, and we decided to send someone else to find then, it was before the doomstorm
did people just said "oh, damn it, we are not sending another expedition and better they fuck themselves" and never tried to explore again?

2)The imediate terrains around the orcfortress is what exactly? sand/desert?

3) the birdmen 1.0, the ones that killed Leath, there are still tribes out there? they have relation with the birds of the orcworld? I wouldn't be surprised that the birds of the orcworld found their way into our lands and created two societies :v

Yeah after the dissappearance of two groups people just stopped loitering around the mountains.

Mountains to the north, deserts/badlands everywhere else.

They probably migrated away now that everyone is settling around the Rainbow Lizard mountains and even more northernly.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Kashyyk on August 01, 2018, 10:21:58 am
How well know outside of Methiant is our fetish for magical artifacts?

Do we know if any of our neighbours have any magical artifacts? If so, what are they?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 01, 2018, 10:28:25 am
How well know outside of Methiant is our fetish for magical artifacts?

Do we know if any of our neighbours have any magical artifacts? If so, what are they?

Artifact fetish of Methiantese is pretty well known.

Common knowledge aboot artifacts: Lametanians have the Bow of Striking or whatever it was called way back in the century. Eldrican still have the Crown of Eldric, inspiring soldiers to do better. They dont' really use it, though, and they definitely didn't use it when fighting against the nomads.

You have no info on other nations, but other nations don't really put their plans in few trinkets ;v As for Dwarves, well, I'm sure you can have a good guess.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Prophet on August 01, 2018, 10:42:57 am
Do you have any plans for spy related Edicts? The Spymaster and his lot don't really seem to do much or be that useful right now.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 01, 2018, 10:48:17 am
Do you have any plans for spy related Edicts? The Spymaster and his lot don't really seem to do much or be that useful right now.

No idea ;v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Maximum Spin on August 01, 2018, 10:49:37 am
Maybe you should crowdsource some edict ideas. :P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Kashyyk on August 01, 2018, 11:07:31 am
Do you still track the locations of our various lost artifacts? Is there any chance that they could be recovered?

Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 01, 2018, 11:49:28 am
1. Dwarven Necklace of Persuasion, first made by King Houlandin I of Lauthbas in 810 AD, lost to Lametania in 811 AD, later recovered by King Llewyn "The Conqueror" of Lauthbas in 868AD. Brief internship in a Hydra from 881 AD to 882AD. Last held by Queen Aife of Lauthbas 892 AD during the economic collapse of Lauthbas.

2. Platinum dwarf Scepter bought in 816 AD by King Houlandin II of Lauthbas, later destroyed in 818 AD to appease Lady Aolineniya.

3. Murder Time, obsidian mace-head gifted to King Houlandin II of Lauthbas by the Formorian king in 827 AD. Reforged in 828 AD. Seized by Queen Alexandria of Lametania in 831 AD. Gifted back to Queen Elana of Lauthbas in 889 AD by Lametania governers, and then reforged. Last held by Queen Aife of Lauthbas 892 AD during the economic collapse of Lauthbas.

4. Dwarven Cuirass of Deflection, made for Houlandin III "The Master Tactician" of Lauthbas in 849 AD. Destroyed in 860 AD by Lady Aolineniya.

5. Sky Iron Knife, made for Houlandin III "The Master Tactician" of Lauthbas in 859 AD. Entombed with him in 860 AD. Uncovered in 867 AD by Llewyn "The Conqueror" of Lauthbas. Lost during Siege of Luathbas in Autumn, 891 AD. Gifted to Dukr Merachd "The Blessed" of Tven in 956 AD. Unknown fate.

6. Ancient Terror, an spear of unknown alloy was unearthed from an ancient barrow by Duke Estwalf "The Lizardslayer" of Tven in 963 AD. Unknown fate.

7. Dwarven Amulet of Protection, made for King Yoe I of Methiant in 1077 AD. Lost during Battle of Lamtain in Late Summer 1085 AD.

8. The Rainbow Scepter I, made for King Yoe I of Methiant in 1085 AD. Stolen by an unknown thief in 1092 AD. Recovered by adventurers the same year. Destroyed out of spite by dwarves in 1117 AD.

9. Lakemetal Thread Tunic, gifted to King Cyl I "The Conqueror" of Methiant in 1125 AD. Disappeared in 1145 AD.

10. Coronation Staff, unearthed from Lost Tombs of Tygwand by King Cyl I "The Conqueror" of Methiant in 1133 AD. Stolen by unknown thieves in 1183 AD.

11. Wolf-Fang, unearthed from Lost Tombs of Tygwand by King Cyl I "The Conqueror" of Methiant in 1133 AD. It was handed over to dwarves as terms of peace treaty in 1139 AD.

12. The Rainbow Scepter II, made for Emperor Cyl I "The Conqueror" of Methiant in 1144AD. Stolen by unknown thieves in 1183 AD.

13. Leaf-Necklace, recovered from unknown honeycomb tomb in 1153 AD by Emperor Cyl I "The Conqueror" of Methiant. Destroyed in 1155 AD.

14. Crown of Heavens, made for Emperor Yoe III of Methiant in 1165 AD.

15. Flying Horse, created for Empress Ruberta "The Good" of Methiant in 1174 AD.

16. Bracelet of Charisma, created for Empress Ruberta "The Good" of Methiant in 1179 AD. Stolen by unknown thieves in 1183 AD.

17. Bronze Flagbearer, created for Empress Ruberta "The Good" of Methiant in 1180 AD.

18. Candlestick of Weather, created for Empress Ruberta "The Good" of Methiant in 1182 AD.

19. Blade of Puncturing, created for Empress Ruberta "The Good" of Methiant in 1182 AD.

20. Rainbow Scepter III, created for Emperor Yoe IV of Methiant during his regency in 1191 AD.

1&3 were taken as debt/war/tribute reparations by Damdamians/Kiwis/whoever.

2&4 has been dissolved by soil according to elven rites.

5 fell into hands of Ankurvat Dwarves when Merachd and his army got busted during their attack against Ankurvat. They definitely sold it away somewhere to the west.

6 definitely ended in hands of Dahnians after their vile rebellious Tven vassal lost against their forces. Some Dahnian noble family ought to have it.

7 is defintiely with Lametanian royal family, in a royal vault or some such.

8 yup, they did it.

9 Elves took it back while also damaging the magic of remaining Moonthread cloaks.

...Of course I'm not telling you where 10, 12 and 16 is :P

11 As with all looted trinkets (look 5), they sold it away for money.

13 Trap item did its work and exploded, duh.

14 Currently on Yoe IV's head (stays there most of the time tbh).

15 Currently in Methiantese royal stables, in a separate wing of it cuz it kept eating normal horses after Ruberta's death.

17&20 are currently in the royal vault.

18 Kept in Orcworld Fortress, just in case.

19 Currently at Yoe IV's belt, usually in the vault.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 01, 2018, 11:54:36 am
Wait a minute so the lazor horse is stress eating because her master died?.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 01, 2018, 12:05:40 pm
Wait a minute so the lazor horse is stress eating because her master died?.

Just keep your kids away from it.

Or go Elf way and feed it your political prisoners.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 01, 2018, 12:11:07 pm
So is Albion a monarchy?.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 01, 2018, 12:13:56 pm
So Albion is it a monarchy?.

Yes.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Maximum Spin on August 01, 2018, 12:15:53 pm
Incidentally, would you just straight-up not allow us to breed the laserhorse or is it conceivable that we might manage to find a way? Because I have a plan for that.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 01, 2018, 12:17:37 pm
Incidentally, would you just straight-up not allow us to breed the laserhorse or is it conceivable that we might manage to find a way? Because I have a plan for that.

It's highly prized unique murder machine that costed arm and leg to acquire.

Am I going to let you get extra copies for free? Take a logical guess, people :V
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 01, 2018, 12:28:43 pm
Could we resurrect cyl as a undead/vampire through sorcery. I think probably not though it would be funny after all the shit he has been through.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Maximum Spin on August 01, 2018, 12:58:24 pm
It's highly prized unique murder machine that costed arm and leg to acquire.

Am I going to let you get extra copies for free? Take a logical guess, people :V
Yeah, I figured.

My suggestion was going to be to get around the sorceress' "my vanity prevents me from copying someone else's work" problem by asking for anything else, to the limits of her creative capacity, that could breed with the horse. Sort of a "Show me how much better you are than the other sorceress, then!" thing. And letting her take a sample of the horse to do so so she can't complain about not knowing what it's made of.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: omada on August 01, 2018, 01:29:19 pm
Or next time ask for a bunch of weaker beings that can be breedable
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: crazyabe on August 01, 2018, 02:02:26 pm
Or next time ask for a bunch of weaker beings that can be breedable
"I'd like a hoard of Sentient garden gnomes bound to my will please..."
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 01, 2018, 02:14:04 pm
Or next time ask for a bunch of weaker beings that can be breedable
"I'd like a hoard of Sentient garden gnomes bound to my will please..."
how do garden gnomes breed?. Actually nevermind i will never get that image out of my head
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: VoidSlayer on August 02, 2018, 02:16:46 am
Undead are pretty universally evil so far, wasn't there some lich king dark lord or some such from a long time ago we ignored?  Or sent adventurers to defeat?

Oh I guess the exception was the king under the lake, but given the wizard specifically had us put it to rest it was probably not a good idea for the undead to hang around.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 02, 2018, 03:06:40 am
Undead are pretty universally evil so far, wasn't there some lich king dark lord or some such from a long time ago we ignored?  Or sent adventurers to defeat?

Oh I guess the exception was the king under the lake, but given the wizard specifically had us put it to rest it was probably not a good idea for the undead to hang around.
it was mostly a joke question honestly that guy does deserve some rest after all that he has been through.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: omada on August 02, 2018, 06:40:40 am
how do garden gnomes breed?. Actually nevermind i will never get that image out of my head

Now I feel somewhat revenged for that hurthling-human love stuff
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 02, 2018, 07:48:55 am
how do garden gnomes breed?. Actually nevermind i will never get that image out of my head

Now I feel somewhat revenged for that hurthling-human love stuff
sorry man just trying to build the master race over here. wow this thread has taken a very strange and hilarious turn.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 07, 2018, 09:34:27 am
Now for my next question does trade improve relations between countries? If so is it gradual as I thought?.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 07, 2018, 09:45:25 am
Now for my next question does trade improve relations between countries?.

It's more like a good preventer of wars; people who earn money from trade won't like to have this sudden income gone because of a border incident or diplomatic scandal or such ;v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 07, 2018, 09:48:52 am
So what happened to Parsia during the regency council.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 07, 2018, 09:50:13 am
So what happened to Parsia during the regency council.

But it's still there? v:
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 07, 2018, 09:51:54 am

But it's still there? v:
WAIT WHAT!? Did the new Gupta empire consume them?.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 07, 2018, 09:54:12 am
I'm confused :V
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 07, 2018, 09:59:15 am
I'm confused :V
did sim empire conquer them or what.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 07, 2018, 10:14:03 am
I'm confused :V
did sim empire conquer them or what.

But I told you it's still there :v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 07, 2018, 10:28:06 am
I'm confused :V
did sim empire conquer them or what.

But I told you it's still there :v
welp I am a idiot last question for the day will we get a chance to found the service of the imperial mapmakers again?.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 07, 2018, 10:31:54 am
welp I am a idiot last question for the day will we get a chance to purchase the service of the imperial map makers again?.

...

I don't understand your question again '<.

If you mean when the map's getting updated, it's end of the year (as always now that Cartographers are active).

If you mean when the Cartographers will ask for funds for another expedition, then I dunno. In few years I think.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 07, 2018, 10:33:26 am
welp I am a idiot last question for the day will we get a chance to purchase the service of the imperial map makers again?.
If you mean when the Cartographers will ask for funds for another expedition, then I dunno. In few years I think.
yep this was the question thanks for your time.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Prophet on August 07, 2018, 11:26:57 am
What do the Dwarves think of us and our people?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: auzewasright on August 07, 2018, 06:38:20 pm
A: When will we next get the option to colonize?
B: Is there the possibility that a large portion of our population is practicing other religions in private to avoid persecution?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: omada on August 07, 2018, 08:25:09 pm
So, looks like we colonized further north. Nice

what's up with that Mistemon lands?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Maximum Spin on August 07, 2018, 09:11:29 pm
what's up with that Mistemon lands?
It has the look of a Dwarven settlement to me. They're usually about that size and the name sounds right (DF dwarven words with suffixes).


Of course, now I want to see "Abystok" appear on the map some time...
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Baffler on August 07, 2018, 09:48:45 pm
How densely populated is the Damdamian Republic? With Parsia under our influence and Cydwyl close to personal union with us we'll be pretty close to them soon in terms of land area, but if I remember right Cydwyl is mostly featureless steppe and Parsia is mostly featureless desert.

Related, what would annexing Cydwyl and Parsia do to our population score?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 08, 2018, 12:00:36 am
What do the Dwarves think of us and our people?

That you're somewhat OK.

A: When will we next get the option to colonize?
B: Is there the possibility that a large portion of our population is practicing other religions in private to avoid persecution?

If there will be a rush to settle, you will be notified of possible sponsorship. Otherwise peeps do it (very slowly) on their own.

Why would there be persecution of religion, though? v:

what's up with that Mistemon lands?

Dorf hall also responsible for slight reduction of Elven forest to the west. Their ballsiest endeavour so far.

How densely populated is the Damdamian Republic? With Parsia under our influence and Cydwyl close to personal union with us we'll be pretty close to them soon in terms of land area, but if I remember right Cydwyl is mostly featureless steppe and Parsia is mostly featureless desert.

Related, what would annexing Cydwyl and Parsia do to our population score?

There are cities upon cities upon villages upon fortresses in the south and west, the coastal areas always were the Damdamian core lands and their first Republican capital was on the coast too (today's it would be in Spania). North and far east are considered somewhat of a frontier, and the central division lines are slightly less populated also due to decades of fighting between The Empire and The Republic.

Cydwyl would bump it up by a 1, Parsia would not.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: omada on August 08, 2018, 12:07:47 am
I know that you calculate people by density over "blocks" of land or something like that

We have a max number of 12 right now because we are an emperor


The stat is a number proportional for the land or it's something fixed and meaning that if we have a 8 in a large land we have many scattered settlements?

it always made me a bit confused, if it's proportional what would be the difference in-game of having population of 8 in a small land (methiant in the beginning of the game for example) and population of 8 in a giant land (methiant-cydwyll after being united)
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 08, 2018, 12:10:30 am
it always made me a bit confused, if it's proportional what would be the difference in-game of having population of 8 in a small land (methiant in the beginning of the game for example) and population of 8 in a giant land (methiant-cydwyll after being united)

More manpower for army, and this stat ain't listed anywhere ;v

To precede another question: Army stat shows the amount of currently combat-ready troops.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Maximum Spin on August 08, 2018, 12:12:48 am
Dorf hall also responsible for slight reduction of Elven forest to the west. Their ballsiest endeavour so far.
Heh, that's actually exactly what my dwarf game was going to be about if option A had been chosen in the beginning. I'd think you looked at my notes, if I wrote anything down. :P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: omada on August 08, 2018, 12:15:23 am
Okay, maybe I will have to ask anyway because I am almost getting it

So a army of 1 in my second example would be bigger in numbers or it's just that we can pull more population to refill it again when it's needed?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Kashyyk on August 08, 2018, 08:19:32 am
Haspen, what's your favourite part of running SpamKingdom?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 08, 2018, 08:28:16 am
So a army of 1 in my second example would be bigger in numbers or it's just that we can pull more population to refill it again when it's needed?

Higher population, faster refills, yes.

There was a change of what 1 Army means; in earlier times when your nation wasn't that big, 1 = 1000 soldiers. Now I believe I enlarged it to 2~2.5k? I know Criptfeind was involved in my changing of mind ;vc

Haspen, what's your favourite part of running SpamKingdom?

When people are sure that some more or less crazy idea gonna work.

And then they roll a 1.

<3
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Criptfeind on August 11, 2018, 08:40:23 am
What does Parsia think of Methiant and what does Methiant think of Parsia generally? They don't seem to really do much.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 11, 2018, 08:48:10 am
What does Parsia think of Methiant and what does Methiant think of Parsia generally? They don't seem to really do much.

Why people keep asking me about current in-game diplomatic relations '<.

I really shouldn't be answering these but oh well: most of Parsian court sees you as... well they think you can be tolerated, but few peoples are still a bit resentful cuz you destroyed their dreams of making Parsia great again.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Criptfeind on August 11, 2018, 09:04:15 am
Why people keep asking me about current in-game diplomatic relations '<.

I think that should be sorta self evident. Despite having a Vizier installed in that country we basically get no news or have any idea about what's going on there. And now we need to make vital decisions about what to do with them with zero information.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Prophet on August 11, 2018, 09:08:56 am
If we somehow manage to incorporate Parsia into our Empire could we possible see Luathbasian and Parsian cultures mixing more and perhaps over a long time see some fusion between the two? Kinda like how Ceodwellian Luathbasian was influenced by Parsian culture? At least I think they were? Is my memory failing me?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Imic on August 11, 2018, 10:12:22 am
Prophet, can I just say that if your agenda is Elf breeding programs in the hopes of having magic umpty-grandchildren and pantheonist mumbo jumbo, then I will support literally ever single decision you make.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Maximum Spin on August 11, 2018, 05:36:27 pm
Prophet, can I just say that if your agenda is Elf breeding programs in the hopes of having magic umpty-grandchildren and pantheonist mumbo jumbo, then I will support literally ever single decision you make.
That's my agenda!
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A!
Post by: Imic on August 11, 2018, 05:59:04 pm
Prophet, can I just say that if your agenda is Elf breeding programs in the hopes of having magic umpty-grandchildren and pantheonist mumbo jumbo, then I will support literally ever single decision you make.
That's my agenda!
Maximimic Propheteers, unite!
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Prophet on August 11, 2018, 07:16:17 pm
Magic and Pantheonism forever!
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: auzewasright on August 11, 2018, 07:27:43 pm
Magic and Pantheonism forever!
Just say no to Pantheonism.
But do say yes to eleven waifus and reunited Lauthbas.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Prophet on August 12, 2018, 11:35:44 am
How did the Rosamanians get their lizard mounts? How have they stopped the practice of lizard riding from spreading out of their lands? Like you'd think after so long eventually someone would find a way of getting their hands on some of the Rosamanian Lizards and start using them themselves. If they really are just that good at keeping they Lizards away from foreign hands... can we ask them to teach us how to do that except with Artifacts instead of lizards?  :P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 12, 2018, 11:41:30 am
How did the Rosamanians get their lizard mounts? How have they stopped the practice of lizard riding from spreading out of their lands? Like you'd think after so long eventually someone would find a way of getting their hands on some of the Rosamanian Lizards and start using them themselves. If they really are just that good at keeping they Lizards away from foreign hands... can we ask them to teach us how to do that except with Artifacts instead of lizards?  :P

Lizard breeding is highly professional, time-consuming and respected job amongst Agaresians, and remains so amongst Rosamanas. How to breed and raise lizards, you start learning that as a kid ;v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 12, 2018, 11:50:58 am
Do the rosamanians lizards have fur on them as northern dinosaurs did to protect against the cold? Or are they just your average fantasy giant lizard?.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 12, 2018, 11:58:58 am
Do the rosamanians lizards have fur on them as northern dinosaurs did to protect against the cold? Or are they just your average fantasy giant lizard?.

;vc

War Lizards confirmed just now to be feathered.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Prophet on August 12, 2018, 12:20:26 pm
Since the Luathbasians appearantly like the Goat enough to put it on their coat of arms do we have any distinctly Luathbasians breeds of Goat? How important of a cultural symbol is the Goat to our people now?... Do the nobility keep pet Goats?  :P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 12, 2018, 12:32:17 pm
Since the Luathbasians appearantly like the Goat enough to put it on their coat of arms do we have any distinctly Luathbasians breeds of Goat? How important of a cultural symbol is the Goat to our people now?... Do the nobility keep pet Goats?  :P

The first 'kingdom' had rulers coming from goat herders, so they placed a goat on the banner, and it remained there long afterwards.

No war goats for you.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Criptfeind on August 12, 2018, 12:40:51 pm
Speaking of the Lizard breeders of the north, what happened to all the lizard and lizard eggs we captured during that war? It was almost 20 years ago, but afaik I don't think we've heard of anything since.... If lizard handling is something you need to learn as a kid, we should have a generation of young adult who've had that time.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: omada on August 12, 2018, 12:55:46 pm
Speaking of the Lizard breeders of the north, what happened to all the lizard and lizard eggs we captured during that war? It was almost 20 years ago, but afaik I don't think we've heard of anything since.... If lizard handling is something you need to learn as a kid, we should have a generation of young adult who've had that time.
He answered part of it before somewhere in this post.

some were sold, transformed in breakfast and some lizardlings were sold as pets, the numbers of eggs were too small BUT... yes

we may have someone good enough on this, a few of them that might try to sell us their services
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Criptfeind on August 12, 2018, 12:56:39 pm
Ahh. Cool.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Prophet on August 12, 2018, 01:46:48 pm
That's a genius idea Haspen! Next time we hire a sorceress we should ask for War Goats.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: omada on August 12, 2018, 02:03:28 pm
How long it takes to the sorcerer's chaotic magic to dissipate and it be safe to hire her again?

it's safe to hire her again now?


(If it wasn't for that owl I would suggest in the game for us to hire her and has for her to build the founding of a castle, and create around that castle a new capital between Cydwyl and Methiant)
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Weirdsound on August 12, 2018, 02:12:43 pm
(If it wasn't for that owl I would suggest in the game for us to hire her and has for her to build the founding of a castle, and create around that castle a new capital between Cydwyl and Methiant)

That sounds like a better job for the dwarves. Wish you had thought of that while we were negotiating with the High King.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 12, 2018, 02:16:21 pm
So haspen between the dwarfs and the sorceresses who could we hire to build castles/forts? etc.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 12, 2018, 02:27:55 pm
So haspen between the dwarfs and the sorceresses who could we hire to build castles/forts? etc.

Local masons?

Dwarves could be persuaded, if you really wanna be frivolous with your expenses :P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: omada on August 12, 2018, 02:50:54 pm
Hmmm, I fear creating a castle in the hands of the dwarves would be dangerous in case we get problems with them again, although we are again tied to the neck with those small guys


maybe just buy* " magical pieces" of the castle from different sources and then assemble it later

*buy can become loot if the elves mess with us and we couldn't hire elves from Prawlant

In the end we ask some hurthlings to live in the castle and take care of the gardens, so it will have beautiful flowers and fresh fruits all year long
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Prophet on August 12, 2018, 03:17:42 pm
I wish the Hurthlings would finally start moving to other parts of our empire. Partly so I don't have large amounts of stress whenever other countries target our only known sustainable population of them. Anyone who hurts our adorable midget farmers should face the full wrath of the Empire!
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 13, 2018, 01:43:17 am
So can the blade of puncturing pierce through hard forgotten beast shell/hide or does that not count as armour?.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 13, 2018, 09:21:03 am
I wish the Hurthlings would finally start moving to other parts of our empire. Partly so I don't have large amounts of stress whenever other countries target our only known sustainable population of them. Anyone who hurts our adorable midget farmers should face the full wrath of the Empire!

They really don't like moving around. They like their cozy valley. Only the crazy ones like Bibber Baggar venture out on great adventures to vanquish evil.

Others are fine with growing cabbages, grapes and barley all their lives :P

So can the blade of puncturing pierce through hard forgotten beast shell/hide or does that not count as armour?.

It's called Blade of Puncturing, yes.

Also, I'm now introducing NAQ - Non-Answer Question - to this thread. Anything I haven't thought about and thus have no answer for will be answered with NAQ ;v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: birdy51 on August 13, 2018, 09:44:56 am
So, how have Hurthlings adapted to Methiant rule? Are they kind of chill with it?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 13, 2018, 09:46:51 am
So, how have Hurthlings adapted to Methiant rule? Are they kind of chill with it?

They're currently so chill with it they actively help the vineyard industry implemented by Methiantese officials v;

If this were Europa Universalis, Hurthlings would be listed under 'Accepted Cultures' :P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: auzewasright on August 13, 2018, 10:02:19 am
What does "AD" stand for if not Anno Domini?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 13, 2018, 10:08:32 am
What does "AD" stand for if not Anno Domini?
i think that is because that’s was the date the gods gave mankind magic I think?.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Kashyyk on August 13, 2018, 10:24:16 am
Also, I'm now introducing NAQ - Non-Answer Question - to this thread. Anything I haven't thought about and thus have no answer for will be answered with NAQ ;v

In these situations can we start pitching potentially-canon answers to you?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 13, 2018, 10:55:36 am
Also, I'm now introducing NAQ - Non-Answer Question - to this thread. Anything I haven't thought about and thus have no answer for will be answered with NAQ ;v
In these situations can we start pitching potentially-canon answers to you?
that would be pretty neat.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 13, 2018, 11:01:38 am
Also, I'm now introducing NAQ - Non-Answer Question - to this thread. Anything I haven't thought about and thus have no answer for will be answered with NAQ ;v

In these situations can we start pitching potentially-canon answers to you?

No V:
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: birdy51 on August 13, 2018, 11:05:29 am
Too late! Already rewriting the parts of history that doesn't have answers.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 13, 2018, 11:09:31 am
So how just how large was the kingdom from the first game?.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Criptfeind on August 13, 2018, 11:24:01 am
We're still on the same map in almost the same place as Luathbas, you can overlay the old map on top of the new to see the differences. Basically Luathbas was in the same place as Methiant currently is, except Methiant owns the Hurthling Valley and a few extra colony bits in the north, and Luathbas owned the lands currently owned by the dwarves of Ankurvat and Zasitost and the Kingdom of Kiwi which is now the Duchy of Koi and part of eastern Eldrican and all of Tevn (which now Methiant owns half and Cydwyl owns half) and Parsia owns half of Khosra now.

So basically Luathbas was in the same place as Methiant but slightly bigger in most directions.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 13, 2018, 11:27:35 am
We're still on the same map in almost the same place as Luathbas, you can overlay the old map on top of the new to see the differences. Basically Luathbas was in the same place as Methiant currently is, except Methiant owns the Hurthling Valley and a few extra colony bits in the north, and Luathbas owned the lands currently owned by the dwarves of Ankurvat and Zasitost and the Kingdom of Kiwi which is now the Duchy of Koi and part of eastern Eldrican and all of Tevn (which now Methiant owns half and Cydwyl owns half) and Parsia owns half of Khosra now.

So basically Luathbas was in the same place as Methiant but slightly bigger in most directions.
well that answers my question thank you.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 13, 2018, 11:35:03 am
What does "AD" stand for if not Anno Domini?

After Descent (of Pantheonist Gods). It's the standard calendar numbering for peoples from Koi to Helliste ;v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: auzewasright on August 13, 2018, 11:51:28 am
What is the literacy rate of Methiant and pre-invasion Tiftit, and other nations?
What was the worst decision the players ever made?
You think I would have remembered that after reading them back to back.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 13, 2018, 11:54:04 am
What is the literacy rate of Methiant
and pre-invasion Tiftit,
and other nations?

Standard literacy rate for medieval based class society without public schooling and freedom of speech.
All but bookkeepers and helears were illiterate.
NAQ ;v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Criptfeind on August 13, 2018, 12:04:35 pm
What was the worst decision the players ever made?

I'm not Haspen but this is a pretty subjective question, so I wanta throw in my vote for the answer. And I think that's when like 3 random people voted to rebel after 30 years of being a loyal and solid vassal in Spamkingdom+ and that shit got hammered home before anyone else could vote, essentially ending the game.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 13, 2018, 12:09:44 pm
What was the worst decision the players ever made?

Ask them not me v:
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Maximum Spin on August 13, 2018, 01:06:05 pm
Can we induce the hurthlings to spread by building artificial valleys near their valley? :P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 13, 2018, 01:14:33 pm
Very interesting question for which I will answer with NAQ ;V

I will keep that idea in mind tho.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 14, 2018, 10:12:51 am
Does the duchy of koi have a panthonist majority?.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: omada on August 14, 2018, 01:11:17 pm
Public schools are something we are only going to get after doing the bill of rights edict or is something that might pop up as random event?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 14, 2018, 02:00:02 pm
Public schools are something we are only going to get after doing the bill of rights edict or is something that might pop up as random event?
woah shouldn’t 30/20% of our population be literate before we attempt something that big?
We should need the surplus of teachers that such a literate population provides.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Maximum Spin on August 14, 2018, 02:14:59 pm
woah shouldn’t 30/20% of our population be literate before we attempt something that big?
We should need the surplus of teachers that such a literate population provides.
Why would we need a literacy rate of fully ⅕? A teacher can teach well over four students!
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 14, 2018, 02:32:35 pm
woah shouldn’t 30/20% of our population be literate before we attempt something that big?
We should need the surplus of teachers that such a literate population provides.
Why would we need a literacy rate of fully ⅕? A teacher can teach well over four students!
Summary since it would take to long to explain in detail.
it’s just far more easier and cheaper to do anything if you have a skilled labor force especially in medival times for example trying to forge bronze without a Smith is just painful.
[anyway enough armchair history]
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 16, 2018, 06:11:25 am
What is albinons state religion? I think that we have the same faith but I am not sure.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 16, 2018, 08:35:51 am
What is albinons state religion? I think that we have the same faith but I am not sure.

Sorry, I can't divulge information about Albinons because this country isn't on the local map yet :V
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 16, 2018, 08:54:02 am
What is albinons state religion? I think that we have the same faith but I am not sure.

Sorry, I can't divulge information about Albinons because this country isn't on the local map yet :V
ah it’s ok now for my last question of the day do the cult of damed accept slavery of humans in their religion or is it just nonhumans that get enslaved?.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: mightymushroom on August 16, 2018, 08:56:40 am
I'm pretty sure Basil meant Albion. You know, those pieces up on the shore of the Saltsand Waters?

Our religious information on them comes from the offer to marry our son to an Albion princess (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=164245.msg7714139#msg7714139). They have a religion based on Father Mountain and Mother Sky. (Not Pantheonism.)

Herta seemed like a nice person, I wish we could have seen more of her but the palace was so crowded at the time. I assume she traveled north again after her son died and she was snubbed by the court.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 16, 2018, 10:02:55 am
I'm pretty sure Basil meant Albion. You know, those pieces up on the shore of the Saltsand Waters?

Our religious information on them comes from the offer to marry our son to an Albion princess (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=164245.msg7714139#msg7714139). They have a religion based on Father Mountain and Mother Sky. (Not Pantheonism.)

Herta seemed like a nice person, I wish we could have seen more of her but the palace was so crowded at the time. I assume she traveled north again after her son died and she was snubbed by the court.
yep thank you.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 16, 2018, 10:43:29 am
I'm pretty sure Basil meant Albion. You know, those pieces up on the shore of the Saltsand Waters?

Our religious information on them comes from the offer to marry our son to an Albion princess (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=164245.msg7714139#msg7714139). They have a religion based on Father Mountain and Mother Sky. (Not Pantheonism.)

Herta seemed like a nice person, I wish we could have seen more of her but the palace was so crowded at the time. I assume she traveled north again after her son died and she was snubbed by the court.

Ah yes, its a dualist religion. Father and Mother, Warrior and Family-figure, Moon and Sun, Fire and Water etc etc.

Herta died (of plague?) in 1187, you can see its on the family tree posted at End of Year 1193.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 16, 2018, 10:51:18 am
I'm pretty sure Basil meant Albion. You know, those pieces up on the shore of the Saltsand Waters?

Our religious information on them comes from the offer to marry our son to an Albion princess (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=164245.msg7714139#msg7714139). They have a religion based on Father Mountain and Mother Sky. (Not Pantheonism.)

Herta seemed like a nice person, I wish we could have seen more of her but the palace was so crowded at the time. I assume she traveled north again after her son died and she was snubbed by the court.

Ah yes, its a dualist religion. Father and Mother, Warrior and Family-figure, Moon and Sun, Fire and Water etc etc.

Herta died (of plague?) in 1187, you can see its on the family tree posted at End of Year 1193.
that clears that up thanks. So in their belief system multiple powerful spirits control the world.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 16, 2018, 10:57:45 am
that clears that up thanks. So in their belief system multiple powerful spirits control the world.

What?

I just wrote its only 2 :v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 16, 2018, 02:33:03 pm
that clears that up thanks. So in their belief system multiple powerful spirits control the world.

What?

I just wrote its only 2 :v
oh meant it in the way like how the Plato imagines the realm of the ideas or if you want a more Eastern example on how everyone is Brahman literally everyone.
[What I am actually getting at]
I don’t know how to explain this in detail but it’s mostly just the truth/god/s is/are a cosmic principle of all of existence and as much part of the world as of the heavens.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 16, 2018, 02:48:19 pm
v:?

No, Father Mountain owns half the things in the world, Mother Sky owns the other half (according to Albionese sacred texts).

Dunno where you getting Eastern vibes from '<.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 16, 2018, 03:12:19 pm
v:?

No, Father Mountain owns half the things in the world, Mother Sky owns the other half (according to Albionese sacred texts).

Dunno where you getting Eastern vibes from '<.
I am just going to give you the source of my vibe
Ah yes, its a dualist religion. Father and Mother, Warrior and Family-figure, Moon and Sun, Fire and Water etc etc.
i think I just read it wrong I thought that albinos people believed that the father/mother were the personification of opposite forces in the universe acting in harmony but I guess I was wrong.

[Kind of like shiva and kali the mother who gives birth and the father who slays]
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 16, 2018, 04:15:10 pm
They're not opposite, they're complementary v;
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 16, 2018, 04:23:36 pm
They're not opposite, they're complementary v;
true.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 17, 2018, 01:18:53 pm
So you remember those frostlings yoe I fought. What happened to them did they go extinct?.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 17, 2018, 01:32:16 pm
So you remember those frozen undead creatures yoe I fought. What happened to them did they go extinct?.

You mean Frostlings?

Ice zombies ;v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 17, 2018, 01:44:35 pm
So you remember those frozen undead creatures yoe I fought. What happened to them did they go extinct?.

You mean Frostlings?

Ice zombies ;v
yep.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: melkor on August 18, 2018, 04:51:20 am
does the world have the same calendar as us. As in 12 months in a year between 28 an 31 days for each month 7 days in a week.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 18, 2018, 05:39:07 am
does the world have the same calendar as us. As in 12 months in a year between 28 an 31 days for each month 7 days in a week.

You think I would track days like that? of course not!

4 Seasons of 3 Months of 30 days each.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Draignean on August 18, 2018, 07:03:23 am
does the world have the same calendar as us. As in 12 months in a year between 28 an 31 days for each month 7 days in a week.

You think I would track days like that? of course not!

4 Seasons of 3 Months of 30 days each.

Can we eventually do the Roman thing and just create a new month by stealing days from everyone else?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 18, 2018, 07:04:30 am
Can we eventually do the Roman thing and just create a new month by stealing days from everyone else?

No v:
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 18, 2018, 08:40:24 am
Do the parsians practice animal sacrifice?. I think I remember something about that they use it for their divinations but I am not sure.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 18, 2018, 09:04:08 am
Do the parsians practice animal sacrifice?. I think I remember something about that they use it for their divinations but I am not sure.

Yeah they do ;v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 18, 2018, 09:25:52 am
So why have the forgotten beasts stopped appearing?.


We have had a whole 15 years during the regency without one so what’s going on?.

Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: mightymushroom on August 18, 2018, 09:51:59 am
It's part of the general decline of magic, in particular I'd guess fewer 'wild' areas left for beasts to come from.*
Beast attacks have never been all that frequent in Methiant as in past kingdoms.
We have plagues and drunk relatives causing international incidents and worst of all: inflation.

*please do not give Haspen the idea for a mole-based beast bursting into a major city
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 18, 2018, 09:59:06 am
*please do not give Haspen the idea for a mole-based beast bursting into a major city

;vc

/me writes that down for later.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 18, 2018, 10:01:02 am
It's part of the general decline of magic, in particular I'd guess fewer 'wild' areas left for beasts to come from.*
Beast attacks have never been all that frequent in Methiant as in past kingdoms.
We have plagues and drunk relatives causing international incidents and worst of all: inflation.

*please do not give Haspen the idea for a mole-based beast bursting into a major city
true but if it’s because magic is fading it appears to do so exponentially faster than before.
if this continues at this speed our artifacts will be gone within a decade.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Imic on August 19, 2018, 04:42:05 am
/me writes that down for later.
When you see him saying this, you know to get down.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: mightymushroom on August 19, 2018, 10:51:47 am
I thought Parsia and Sim Empire both practice forms of Eleven Graces worship? Ajarat Padarahka is talking and acting as if the Parsians are heathens, did Sim's takeover also change something about their religious life or have they always been at odds without my realizing it?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on August 20, 2018, 03:12:24 am
So you know how in old Gupta the princes of the emperor would fight among themselves to try and seize the throne after the father died what kept them from doing the same as sim and change the succession laws and reform the administration?.




[essentially what I am asking here is why didn’t we not see a earlier reformed Gupta?.]


Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 20, 2018, 07:57:22 am
So you know how in old Gupta the princes of the emperor would fight among themselves to try and seize the throne after the father died what kept them from doing the same as sim and change the succession laws and reform the administration?.

That was in Parsia, not Gubta ;v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: omada on August 21, 2018, 10:48:20 pm
There is members of the hurthlings in our army? Even in negligible amounts?

 I know that they aren't inclined in leaving their houses, but I believe that there might always have some adventurous spirit somewhere, or a descendant of a hurthling family that got killed by parsia. Plus, we have that mandatory service on the army, I don't know if the laws were made exclusively for humans and hurthlings got immune to that, or they got rejected by the army because of the training drill
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 21, 2018, 11:55:25 pm
I know that they aren't inclined in leaving their houses, but I believe that there might always have some adventurous spirit somewhere, or a descendant of a hurthling family that got killed by parsia. Plus, we have that mandatory service on the army, I don't know if the laws were made exclusively for humans and hurthlings got immune to that, or they got rejected by the army because of the training drill

Those are very interesting questions but NAQ

If I were to decide, I would say only handful of brave ones are in.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Maximum Spin on August 31, 2018, 05:36:59 pm
With no ulterior motives whatsoever, what kinds of animal people are there in your world?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 31, 2018, 05:40:19 pm
With no ulterior motives whatsoever, what kinds of animal people are there in your world?

A lot of them.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Maximum Spin on August 31, 2018, 05:43:59 pm
Do you have parakeet people?!
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on August 31, 2018, 05:51:51 pm
Do you have parakeet people?!

I do now :P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: omada on August 31, 2018, 10:26:55 pm
Does this change of era already affected artifacts?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on September 01, 2018, 02:03:41 am
Does this change of era already affected artifacts?

It's weakening of magic which will do that, not a new page on calendar ;v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: auzewasright on September 01, 2018, 07:18:17 am
Whatever happened to the Ruzians?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on September 01, 2018, 07:24:29 am
Whatever happened to the Ruzians?

They were incorporated into Dahnia, and by the time of Grand Duchy, they were minority, till their culture stopped being a thing by start of SPAMKINGDOM# ;v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?
Post by: Basil ii on September 01, 2018, 07:44:07 am
will artifacts get more expensive as magic declines?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?
Post by: Haspen on September 01, 2018, 07:45:26 am
will artifacts get more expensive as magic declines?

If artifactmakers go caput, the price for existing ones will sure skyrocket.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Basil ii on September 01, 2018, 07:53:47 am
So where do Sorceresses and wizards come from.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on September 01, 2018, 08:44:47 am
So where do Sorceresses and wizards come from.

NAQ forever and ever, will never tell V:
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: auzewasright on September 01, 2018, 08:47:55 am
So where do Sorceresses and wizards come from.

NAQ forever and ever, will never tell V:
Presumably somewhere beyond the fourth wall.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Kashyyk on September 01, 2018, 09:26:19 am
As magic declines will wizards and sorceresses become rarer?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on September 01, 2018, 10:33:59 am
As magic declines will wizards and sorceresses become rarer?

Quite possibly ;v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: auzewasright on September 01, 2018, 10:59:34 am
Whatever happened to the Ruzians?

They were incorporated into Dahnia, and by the time of Grand Duchy, they were minority, till their culture stopped being a thing by start of SPAMKINGDOM# ;v
Ok, I was worried if there was a remnant that migrated north and is building up to begin a mass invasion of the Sim empire or some other nations (like those guys around that lake in the north).
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: birdy51 on September 01, 2018, 11:21:02 am
Do you have parakeet people?!

I do now :P
Yessssssssss!
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on September 01, 2018, 11:21:15 am
Ok, I was worried if there was a remnant that migrated north and is building up to begin a mass invasion of the Sim empire or some other nations (like those guys around that lake in the north).

I don't understand your way of thinking but OK I guess :P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: auzewasright on September 02, 2018, 02:48:20 pm
Ok, I was worried if there was a remnant that migrated north and is building up to begin a mass invasion of the Sim empire or some other nations (like those guys around that lake in the north).

I don't understand your way of thinking but OK I guess :P
I doubted it, but considering that you like things coming back to kick us, you never know. :P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Kashyyk on September 10, 2018, 09:07:47 am
So now that were in the Age of Fireblood, how do most battles happen? Is it all Pike & Shot now?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on September 10, 2018, 09:26:27 am
So now that were in the Age of Fireblood, how do most battles happen? Is it all Pike & Shot now?

You're at start of Age of Fireblood :v

Pike and shots will happen once you modernize the Army to such tactics. For now its the same as before aka 'bombard and charge into melee'
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Criptfeind on September 10, 2018, 09:27:28 am
When the shift does happen will an increase of powerful ranged weapons and focus on that sorta combat cause a decrease of cases where the leaders of armies personally enter combat?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on September 10, 2018, 09:56:29 am
Well your monarchs aren't really required since the army has been modernized cuz that's why the learned officers noticed that most monarchs in Methiant are shit at leading.

But I keep the option open just in case y'all wanna barge in ;v

One day you can surely go George III and say 'nah me and my kids ain't gonna lead again anymore' and them generals will be like 'we got chu bruh'.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Criptfeind on September 10, 2018, 10:10:19 am
Wait, does that mean that the martial skill won't give a bonus to leading our army anymore as compared to just letting our professional dudes do it?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on September 10, 2018, 10:17:43 am
Wait, does that mean that the martial skill won't give a bonus to leading our army anymore as compared to just letting our professional dudes do it?

Oh, no, it will :V

Personal participation is no longer expected, that's what I mean.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Kashyyk on September 25, 2018, 06:53:59 am
How big is Methiant-Cydwyl compared to well known nations in real life?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on September 25, 2018, 10:41:22 am
How big is Methiant-Cydwyl compared to well known nations in real life?

But I gave you guys a map v:
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Kashyyk on September 25, 2018, 11:11:47 am
I know, but I want to know how we compare! How close are we to the Roman Empire? Are we smaller than France? I wanna know :P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on September 25, 2018, 11:12:41 am
I know, but I want to know how we compare! How close are we to the Roman Empire? Are we smaller than France? I wanna know :P

NAQ

Specifically so I don't need to work out a distance/area/measurement system V:
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Weirdsound on September 25, 2018, 11:15:03 am
I know, but I want to know how we compare! How close are we to the Roman Empire? Are we smaller than France? I wanna know :P

NAQ

Specifically so I don't need to work out a distance/area/measurement system V:

We could probably make a rough estimate if more landmarks were marked on that map. You have, on occasion, given us travel time between our capital and the various places we have visited. Google tells me an average rider not pushing their horse too hard can travel about 30 miles a day.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on September 25, 2018, 11:16:23 am
Oh no, the math's already involved! I was too late!

/me runs away.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Imic on September 25, 2018, 11:47:20 am
Oh no, the math's already involved! I was too late!
Sigged.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on October 07, 2018, 04:10:48 am
Okay, so, let's not beat around the bush.

It has been evident, possibly to quite few people, that I have a trouble putting out regular updates.

It might be a burnout, or like I confided in discord, a sign of the game getting 'boring' for me. Don't get me wrong, I love the world I've made, and I love the format, and of course I love the amount of attention it gets, it's just... kinda 'eh'.

Looking back into SPAMKINGDOM#, I now see that I've made few mistakes:

Elective Monarchy: Allowing you guys to secure the continuation of the dynasty (and thus, the game) by picking up basically any valid relative. I cannot spawn a Pretender because hey, why rebel if the big guys on the throne already have succession troubles already out of equation?

Overtech: Getting guns early and letting the people concentrate on them heavily while nations around do not have such a research program involved. I basically had to roll out Age of Fireblood to knock out that +1/+2 from Fireblood Methiantese armies were getting to at least have the Empire put some effort in conquests.

Too Many Artifacts: Sorceresses making up artifacts was a thing from the beginning, but I did not take into account the possibility of rapidly replenishing Economy stat. I vaguely recall, I think it was Ruberta?, being able to commission an artifact every few years.

It really gets a bit disheartening if all I have to do is to roll out an update where the super Army of Methiant-Cydwyl blasts all enemies with its overtech and 150% discipline, and the Emperors are so decked out in booster trinkets that to get them do wrong I must make up negative modifiers.

Hiatus? Most definitely, SPAMKINGDOM# is on hiatus.

Dropping the game? A possibility, too.

I currently busy myself with Res Publica (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=172233.0) on the side to try something new. Also there's the new thing that's 'in the works', DOOMguys (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=172305.0), where people go to Mars and shoot up fallen marines and demons. We will see how this all goes.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: TankKit on October 07, 2018, 06:33:16 am
I understand that it can get disheartening to roll the same updates out constantly, but you control the game. I personally thought that the demon event thingy at 1300 was suppose to be the main event to basically let all the other countries catch up or something like that. Also, it kind of sounds like you're upset that we're doing too good in the system you made. Not our fault no one else thought of it first. :P

In all seriousness though, I do understand that writing the same general pattern of STOMP STOMP STOMP updates can get boring and you probably don't want to just pull another event out of nowhere to stop us stomping everything. Still, I hope that even if you drop this game you do make a new one because this has been fun to read and participate throughout the entire game, from being stomped to stomping. Same with the other games.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: auzewasright on October 07, 2018, 09:05:09 am
Maybe we should "retire" the nation and start up again 150 years later, after everything falls apart without us.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: helmacon on October 07, 2018, 11:15:47 am
I think, that with greater success congress greater challenges. We have just been extending the scale. Sure, we haven't had a real challenge lately, but then again, when was the last time we fought someone even roughly our size. The next big conflict the game has been building to us with the eldrican, or possible the damaed. They're certainly going to challenge us when we get there. You can't reform an entire empire in a few turns though, so conflicts like that take a lot longer to develope. I think it will certainly be epic when it does happen though.

I do agree with you about artifact spam, but then, you did steal like 3 or 4 artifacts from us just a bit ago, and we have no means to regain new artifacts now since the wizards warning.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: TankKit on October 07, 2018, 11:50:25 am
Actually yeah, now that I've been awake longer and have thought about it more it does seem like you've solved the issues pretty handily so far, and things are getting challenging if we want to do much more expanding. It's probably burnout or something like that.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Blood_Librarian on October 08, 2018, 10:34:26 am
What is the state of society as of now?
Are the people happy?
What is the average life of a peasant? A Baron? A King? The Emperor?

What happens when a king dies?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Maximum Spin on November 07, 2018, 11:59:49 am
What's the state of printing technology?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on November 07, 2018, 12:02:05 pm
What's the state of printing technology?

Still far from 3D printers but slowly we're getting there.

:P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Maximum Spin on November 07, 2018, 12:18:18 pm
What's the state of printing technology?

Still far from 3D printers but slowly we're getting there.

:P
Yes but how about right now, Haspen. :P
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on November 07, 2018, 01:17:13 pm
I believe they're printing things on small scale now.

Affordable fine-quality scholarly volumes available in every Damdamian manor coming next year!

Or maybe ten, tops.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: auzewasright on November 09, 2018, 02:17:20 pm
I believe they're printing things on small scale now.

Affordable fine-quality scholarly volumes available in every Damdamian manor coming next year!

Or maybe ten, tops.
This changes everything...
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: ZBridges on November 30, 2018, 08:01:47 pm
2+1-1 due to Dwarven Necklace of Persuasion (weakened) and Fundamentalists"

Why was the Dwarven Necklace of Persuasion "weakened?"
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on December 01, 2018, 03:15:57 am
2+1-1 due to Dwarven Necklace of Persuasion (weakened) and Fundamentalists"

Why was the Dwarven Necklace of Persuasion "weakened?"

Damed's direct antimagical influence ;v

It happened in the past, it happened now, it will continue to happen.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: omada on December 01, 2018, 01:05:16 pm
How is the elven-dwarven war going? I don't remember seeing it being concluded
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: TankKit on December 01, 2018, 01:55:43 pm
Has there ever been Damedian crusades before? If so, what was the result?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on December 01, 2018, 02:14:23 pm
How is the elven-dwarven war going? I don't remember seeing it being concluded

It's neverending stoooooooryyyyyyyy~~

Has there ever been Damedian crusades before? If so, what was the result?

There have been a few I guess? Considering the Damedians are the superpower of the south, it seems every Crusader was more or less victorious.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: TankKit on December 01, 2018, 03:54:56 pm
So they're much, much better than the real life crusades and have never lost a crusade. Makes sense, considering their power. Have they ever broken up before, and have they had any crusades since the first crack of the most recent break appeared?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on December 01, 2018, 04:31:49 pm
Have they ever broken up before, and have they had any crusades since the first crack of the most recent break appeared?

The civil war that broke the old Damdamians into an Empire and Republic was first ever; before that their republican ways prevented rise of superinfluential military leaders. As for crusades, no; since the civil war the religious authorities were neither strong or centralized enough to call up their sheeple for a crusade.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: TankKit on December 01, 2018, 04:49:01 pm
Did they try?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: ZBridges on December 10, 2018, 01:08:48 am
What was the direct cause of the Pantheonist Descent?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on December 10, 2018, 10:32:04 am
What was the direct cause of the Pantheonist Descent?

Do I look like Methuselah to you '<.?

Did they try?

They were busier with more important things I'm sure.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Lord_lemonpie on December 19, 2018, 03:36:10 pm
Haspen, did you use any special software to create your family trees? They look clean af, and I'd love to know what you used for a game I'm running.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on December 19, 2018, 03:38:41 pm
MSPaint.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: TankKit on December 19, 2018, 03:39:33 pm
Lol.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Lord_lemonpie on December 19, 2018, 03:42:35 pm
MSPaint.
Damn, that's a shame. Had hoped for a super quick way to make them. Thanks for the response though!
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Prophet on February 13, 2019, 11:19:58 pm
1: How are the Hurthlings doing? We haven't heard much about them in a while so I'm kinda curious what they've been up to. Have we finally seen some progress in getting them to spread around more in the Empire? Please don't tell me our Hurthlings are doing bad.  :'(

2: What have the Parsians been up to while under our rule?

3: How do the Dwarves view our Empire/Emperors currently?

4: What's the Dwarven opinion of those treacherous Damdamians [Including Eldrican]?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Weirdsound on February 13, 2019, 11:29:09 pm
1: How are the Hurthlings doing? We haven't heard much about them in a while so I'm kinda curious what they've been up to. Have we finally seen some progress in getting them to spread around more in the Empire? Please don't tell me our Hurthlings are doing bad.  :'(

I recall at some point there was a plauge that killed off the vast majority of them.

Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on February 14, 2019, 12:56:58 am
1: How are the Hurthlings doing? We haven't heard much about them in a while so I'm kinda curious what they've been up to. Have we finally seen some progress in getting them to spread around more in the Empire? Please don't tell me our Hurthlings are doing bad.  :'(

2: What have the Parsians been up to while under our rule?

3: How do the Dwarves view our Empire/Emperors currently?

4: What's the Dwarven opinion of those treacherous Damdamians [Including Eldrican]?

1. Like Weirdsound said, the plague killed off majority of them, and they're on road to extinction.

2. Plotting your downfall I presume.

3. "Less stubborn than usual." I would think, I'm not sure.

4. This should be two questions really. About Damdamians: They dislike them, but taught them not to mess beards up. About Eldricans: Being non-Damdamians, they're valuable trading partners and amicable neighbours.

But please ask more lore questions instead of question of current geo-political situation, this is not the thread for that ;v
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Prophet on February 14, 2019, 01:17:20 am
1. Like Weirdsound said, the plague killed off majority of them, and they're on road to extinction.

 :'(


How many dynasties have ruled since the start of recorded Luathbasian history?

Which of the ancient Luathbasian dynasties was the last to use magic?

How many gods are in the Pantheon?

How is the Pantheonist leadership structured?

How old is the old capital of Luathbas?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on February 14, 2019, 10:54:51 am
How many dynasties have ruled since the start of recorded Luathbasian history?

Which of the ancient Luathbasian dynasties was the last to use magic?

How many gods are in the Pantheon?

How is the Pantheonist leadership structured?

How old is the old capital of Luathbas?

Unfortunately between Tygwand dynasty of the 500-600s, and Houlandines of 800s, there weren't many that could count as dynasties... the usual schematic for succession would be 'hey evil guy, you're evil and thus dethroned' but when the old good guy would finally die, either his kids did a civil war or an usurper would kick the young heir off the throne, sitting on it until someone came up to say 'hey evil guy...'. The history is filled with usurpers (usually evil) and rebels-made-kings (usually good).

Tygwands. Don't ask which one though, I haven't yet decided on details of that particular piece of mythology ;V

At least 112, since inclusion of Leath, son of Cyl the Great, as God of Diplomacy.

Archpriest is elected for life from the council of High Priests (several hundred at this point), who themselves rule over a parish comprising of a city and surrounding villages/towns. Akin to our world's Pope, Archpriest is the authority on doctrine, course and politics of the Pantheonist cult. Priests control individual temples, where Acolytes learn and serve, with hopes of advancing further up the ladder given enough time.

You mean the City of Luathbas? It existed at least since the late 300s (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=159974.msg7309348#msg7309348), when the Palace of Luathbas King was the size of a mead hall. (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=159974.msg7310327#msg7310327) Considering that both the palace and the surrounding town must've existed few decades at least, it's safe to assume the City of Luathbas was founded no later than around 300 AD.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: mightymushroom on November 26, 2019, 06:10:17 pm
Digging this up to ask: what's the deal between Xanes and Peons? From the hyphenated name of their country I thought there would have been some sort of alliance or at least marriage long ago, but both sides seem to think of the Peons as a subjugated people.

Also, is there any great difference between them? Culture, religion, that sort of thing?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on November 27, 2019, 12:58:38 am
Peons lived in a republic, and are maritime, mercantile peoples, while Xaneans were always a monarchy that conquered them and then ostentibly put the hyphen for extra prestige. Back in the day, Peons worshipped mermaids while Xaneans were strictly Mother&Father.

The cultural difference is similar to that between Bretons and French. Also, Peonian peoples have been fighting for independence nearly 100 years if not more.
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Naturegirl1999 on December 02, 2019, 12:49:30 am
Can you tell more about the fei? How long have they existed? Are they related to any other races? If so, how? Why do they attack humans? Are humans their only prey?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: auzewasright on December 08, 2019, 02:31:35 pm
Is Spamkingdom 3 in the same world as Spamkingdom 2 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=162796.0)?
Title: Re: SPAMKINGDOM LORE Q&A! (and Hub?)
Post by: Haspen on December 08, 2019, 02:46:55 pm
No.