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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #2385 on: September 23, 2013, 05:54:12 am »
StL, how arabic are your formics?

I'm still thinking about making halflings sing. Furthermore what they sing would reflect and could be used to identify traits. Such as the rare adventurous halflings would sing songs of foreign cultures, among other things. For formics, of course, they might have nasheed.

Regular, fearful halfling:
(Master Dragonrump sings!)
"Hush now baby halfling, hush now don't you cry"

Adventurous halfling, sings the normal songs but may occasionally also:
(Tit Stupiditypumpkin imitates a busy, high-pitched voice chittering with zeal and fervor!)
...in the night of her absence, soldiers did not forget jihad-ah...
...we now come to you with veiled face, lance and saber (clatters jaw madly) elucidating the mandate of the Queen!

Feel free to opt out of thisoic I the pla It just seems cool there would be actual limited knowledge of other cultures, visible. While leaving the leap of log
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« Reply #2386 on: September 23, 2013, 05:57:29 am »
Excuse me, feel feree to opt out of this entirely. But it would be cool to have intercultural reference... In indirect form.

They would also sing troll songs and ballad of Mastertea and such.

What kind of damn smartphone undergoes a massive memory leak to the point of unresponsiveness from writing two paragraphs? Piece of crap. Well, more when I get home.

I suppose Ender's game Formics would never sing though :P
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« Reply #2387 on: September 23, 2013, 11:00:21 am »
In triple-posting news:

- HugoL and Gnorm, your newest reports are added to the front page under HugoL bugfixing turn
- Aseaheru's videos are now linked under "fanart". Thanks! :)


Here's some new stuff. This time it's animal sounds!

Generic vocalization interactions:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Vocalizing creature variations, four of them:
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Speech files:

Code: (speech_hound_hlg.txt) [Select]
Woof!
Woof!
Woof!
Woof!
Woof!
Woof! Woof!
Bark!
Bow-wow-wow!
(the hound pants loudly)
Arooooooooooooo!
(the hound whimpers)
Code: (speech_tit_hlg.txt) [Select]
Chirp!
Tweet! Tweet! Tweet!
Result? When inserting
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:DOG_BARK_HLG]
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:GROWL_HLG]
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:WHIMPERS_FLEEING_HLG]
into feral hounds, this happens when attacking a pack:


Note that they growl at you when you are further away (20 squares, not in picture), then start barking when you're at 15 squares, and whimpering when they're scared. Adds character.

It's actually extremely useful for an adventurer. When you see "Woof!" or "The Feral Hound growls!" flashing at the lower boundary of your screen, it's time to consider evasive action.
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #2388 on: September 23, 2013, 12:34:57 pm »
For the Little Ones I see them singing sorta like Halflings, but with a bit of Scottish music added in.
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« Reply #2389 on: September 23, 2013, 12:39:10 pm »
So...would domestic hounds bark at Halflings, or just things they don't like?
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Halfling

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« Reply #2390 on: September 23, 2013, 01:23:01 pm »
With those variations they would bark at things they don't like, ie. when a halfling would throw a rock. The line that determines this is

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[CREATURE_VARIATION:DOG_BARK_HLG]

[CV_NEW_TAG:CAN_DO_INTERACTION:VOCALIZATION_HLG]
[CV_NEW_TAG:CDI:USAGE_HINT:ATTACK] <-----------------
Changing the usage hint to GREETING would mean that they bark at friendly halflings like they're puppies happy to see their owner, and why not. :)

Leaving it blank would mean they bark at everything, which is how bird chirping works (any bird with the variation will chirp at any creature in range 2x/day).
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« Reply #2391 on: September 23, 2013, 02:57:35 pm »
I think domestic dogs should just wag their tails. It's adorable.
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« Reply #2392 on: September 23, 2013, 03:02:24 pm »
Perhaps also yip?
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« Reply #2393 on: September 23, 2013, 03:25:09 pm »
Quote from: HugoLuman on September 23, 2013, 02:57:35 pm
I think domestic dogs should just wag their tails. It's adorable.
Quote from: Aseaheru on September 23, 2013, 03:02:24 pm
Perhaps also yip?

+1 on the Yipping and Tail-wagging .(OwO).
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Something I find interesting and thought I should share: DF from scratch: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=127552.0

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« Reply #2394 on: September 23, 2013, 03:29:20 pm »
Perhaps "beg", "sit", and "roll over"?

Might make dogsplosions even laggier, though.
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« Reply #2395 on: September 23, 2013, 03:52:00 pm »
Well,

Spoiler: variations for wagging tail and yipping (click to show/hide)

Code: (puppy_yip_hlg.txt) [Select]
Yip!
Yip!
Yip yip!
-> Creatures with variation can wag tail at friendlies 1x/3 days (to reduce spam), can yip at a friendly 1x/2 days. :)

Actually, having halflings have them do tricks is very simple. The blueprint is:
Dog uses an interaction to transmit a syndrome to a nearby halfling. This syndrome permits the halfling to target the dog and say "sit!". Then, the dog sits. Sitting may then enable it to give the previous halfling another syndrome causing them to say "good boy" and cause a report of "Fairy Volepants throws the dog a small treat!" "The Hound looks pleased!".

Entirely possible. I've made entire dialogs occur outside of talk mode that way in a private mod. But it might indeed cause fortress mode to lag, a LOT. :P

Could be added as an easter egg in adventurer mode.
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« Reply #2396 on: September 23, 2013, 03:57:47 pm »
The Formics, if they sang at all, would probably use more insectile "singing" - less like hymns and more like cicadas. Being gifted with language, though, they'd still have songs with vocals - probably work-based songs from the workers, rhythmic and useful in keeping members of a working group in synch.  Rhythmic stuff in general would be a theme among them, with cicadas as inspiration for their music.

As for how Arabic they are, the idea of Jihad wouldn't be a big one, if at all present, as they do have a pantheon (which doesn't really lend itself well to holy war, considering how polytheism tends to be more accepting of  new gods) though a near-religious attitude towards the Queen is something they have. Considering they live in deserts and wastelands, and I mainly associate Arabs with those areas, past the jihad thing they're pretty Arabic :)

EDIT: Considering the droning sound cicadas make, bagpipes might be a good instrument for them if we start adding in trade goods like that. They are fanatically-devoted-to-their-queen, Arabic bagpipers, essentially, when it comes to music. The Highlands and the Sahara.
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Quote from: Pyro627 on August 20, 2012, 02:32:35 pm
Generally, when one is conducting an experiment, it is worth noting that the observers went insane, killed each other, and then rose from the dead.
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« Reply #2397 on: September 23, 2013, 04:01:59 pm »
Jihad just means "duty". The idea of it as "holy war" is a fairly recent one. But that aside, I don't see ants doing the whole "put the nonbelievers to the sword" thing.
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« Reply #2398 on: September 23, 2013, 04:07:11 pm »
Why not? RL ant colonies war all the time.



In other news, I have a request for the modders: An item that produces syndrome gas. And has a prefstring.

Edit: oh god, I just described cigarettes.
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« Reply #2399 on: September 23, 2013, 04:08:22 pm »
Well, there's alchemical incense that gives syndromes. I'm not sure you can make an item produce gas.
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Quote from: Pyro627 on August 20, 2012, 02:32:35 pm
Generally, when one is conducting an experiment, it is worth noting that the observers went insane, killed each other, and then rose from the dead.
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It's like DF inhaled a peanut.
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