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Title: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: evilcherry on March 03, 2017, 01:33:30 am
When you try to jam the Spam* games and the Outpost games you got this.

This is the year 2047. Scientists judged that for some reason, the surface of the earth will not be too habitable by the end of year 2050. The governments are frantically building underground shelters for the populace, but this is merely a way to placate the populace - the scientific consensus is that they are just delaying the inevitable by a few decades if not a few years.

The real hope lies in the Ark ships, not one, but several built by the nations of earth. Thanks to improved power and cyrosleep technology, it would be good enough for a one-way trip for thousands, if not millions of people, to the nearest stars, and to settle upon one of the planets orbiting them.

You will be the captain of one of the Ark Ships, yet to be built. But before you begin, what nation will you represent?

- The Great Huge Republic of the Atlantic
- The Union of many many Republics and Kingdoms
- The Northern Empire
- The Great Eastern People's Republic
- The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
- The Federation of Southern Princely states

And what is your name?
Title: Re: Spamoutpost!
Post by: evilcherry on March 03, 2017, 01:33:46 am
Reserved, just in case.
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Post by: RoseHeart on March 03, 2017, 02:04:09 am
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- The Great Huge Republic of the Atlantic

Tom Crumpet
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Post by: 10ebbor10 on March 03, 2017, 02:14:37 am
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The Union of many many Republics and Kingdoms
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Post by: DoopUltimate007 on March 03, 2017, 04:45:20 am
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The Union of many many Republics and Kingdoms
+1
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Post by: piratejoe on March 03, 2017, 05:16:22 am
The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun

Glory to Nippon, Glory to Emi Araya
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Post by: VoidSlayer on March 03, 2017, 07:27:03 am
The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun

Glory to Nippon, Glory to Emi Araya

+1
Title: Re: Spamoutpost!
Post by: evilcherry on March 03, 2017, 10:00:08 am
The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun, or in short the Empire, is a product of geopolitical necessity. As the Great Eastern People's Republic increasingly looked for external solutions to their numerous internal problems, the many states on its periphery was increasingly drawn, or forced to cooperate with each other. Under the banner of the Empire of Rising sun, the second, or the Reformed of the Rising sun was formed as the amalgamation of the three major states and some other city-states in the region.

Five years ago, after some Congressional wrangling and a mock rebellion, the Republic of the Atlantic finally parted with some of its most rebellious Western States. In the words of the president, it is for the Republic to be greater and huger. With the end of Earth looming, these newly independent states have reluctantly joined the Empire for protection and a future.

The Empire have cutting edge technology in Robotics, energy storage, semiconductors, and more recently software development thanks to tons of software engineers fleeing prosecution of the Republic of the Atlantic. Sometimes they are, however, too cutting edge. With a multiracial populace, the Empire finally know how to be inclusive, and has gone very far from its xenophobic past. However they are a very fragile union, even worse than The Union of many many Republics and Kingdoms. If people find the empire more threatening - which it was just more than a century ago, they would be the most happy to undermine the Empire in service to the People's Republic, the Republic of the Atlantic, or even The Northern Empire.

+ Robotics, humanoid robots instead of trucks in many applications
+ Energy Storage technology
+ Semiconductor technology
+ Better software
+ Interracial relations
- Lower reliability in basically everything involving electronics
- Higher chance of mutiny and spies

We will first focus on Emi Araya, which I assume to be a she. Before being appointed captain of the non-existent ship, you are...

A) a politician, of course.
B) a proud naval captain of the Space Self-defense Forces, and a rarity.
C) a businesswoman, by virtue of marriage.
D) a Propulsion scientist.
E) the most popular member of the 486-girl strong (and growing) idol group that has been selling voting tickets bundled with music for a few decades.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: overseer05-15 on March 03, 2017, 10:11:52 am
I vote E.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: VoidSlayer on March 03, 2017, 12:24:25 pm
D Technology is our future.

If we get the choice I say we trade our tech for goodwill.  Not like we will need it after 3 years.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: 10ebbor10 on March 03, 2017, 01:33:22 pm
D
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: Puppyguard on March 03, 2017, 04:10:56 pm
D
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: piratejoe on March 03, 2017, 05:32:00 pm
D, and yes, Emi is a she.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: evilcherry on March 04, 2017, 04:07:06 am
You are Emi Araya, the Propulsion scientist. At least it is a related profession.

You don't get to choose its destination - you will be part of a major international cohort of ships sent to the star TRAPPIST-1.

The government scrambled a working group to work with you. They immediately drafted up three designs for you to choose from.

A A Generation ship. 1000 people will be kept awake as crew, and reproduce crew for the hundreds if not thousands year long journey. The ship thus only need the minimal amount of thrust to operate, and most of the generators will be diverted to keep the crew and the cyrosleeping populaton of 100k alive.

B A One-or-two Generation Ship. Aimed at reaching the destination as fast as possible, the ship will now be designed for a crew of 100 persons - good enough for an extended operation that must be concluded within the human lifetime, or at most two. Due to a combination of weight, material strength, and many factors, the cyrosleeping population will be lowered to 50k.

C A "Frozen One-way Liner", which only a skeletal crew of 20 is kept awake at any time, which is deemed just good enough to monitor the situation, to do emergency damage control, and to wake up more crew if old-school manpower is needed. After their prescribed tour, the crew will be frozen again, while another cohort will be thawed to replace them. This will in theory support a practically indefinite operation with very limited resources, but the long term effects of cyrosleeping is untested, and being frozen is definitely not the best retirement plan in the Empire. This ship will carry 1m cyrosleeping bodies that will spend a good part of the next millennium frozen.



The ship will be purpose built, but due to time constraints, you will have to cobble it up from existing vessels. You decide to utilize...

A Commercial rockets, defunct satellites, space stations and such, of course.
B There will be no demand for commercial flights after 3 years. Lets start putting something together from excess airliners can you?
C Isn't there a battleship lying in the ocean? And there another passenger liner? Now raise them ALL for the glory of the Empire!

Finally, you will need an aide to assist your operations. You decided to appoint...

A Kenji Shibata the politican.
B Son Haneul the Biologist.
C Chen Kwang-yi the Industralist.
D Stephanie Lee Suet-yee the newest rising star in the ERS-486 girl group.
E Steve Meyers the Software engineer.

No partial votes.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: VoidSlayer on March 04, 2017, 04:18:42 am
I like a generation ship, if it lasts hundreds of years it will have plenty of time to set up a new colony.  Although cryo-sick mutants from C sounds like a fine idea!  Might even be able to include research and manufacturing to improve the vessel en route.

A A Generation ship

A Commercial rockets, defunct satellites, space stations and such, of course.

C Chen Kwang-yi the Industralist.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: 10ebbor10 on March 04, 2017, 08:41:18 am
Important note, we're not the only one visiting the system. It's a multinational effort.

If we take option A or C, there could be a colony more than hundred years old already present when we arrive. C more so than A, as C is evn slower.

I like the idea of arriving in a settled system.

C
C
C


Space Cryo Ship Yamato
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: evilcherry on March 04, 2017, 01:41:08 pm
Invitation for tiebreakers.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: VoidSlayer on March 04, 2017, 07:54:18 pm
At least we agree on the second in command!

Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: piratejoe on March 04, 2017, 10:19:51 pm
Did someone say space Battlecryoship Yamato~?

C
C
D (Because I find it kinda funny.)
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: VoidSlayer on March 04, 2017, 10:51:07 pm
Actually, if we are doing a generation ship I suppose the pop idol would be best.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: piratejoe on March 05, 2017, 07:43:21 am
Probably, though, if we do end up with Chen the industrialist, I would say that we refer to their last name as Yakumo no mater how much it possibly pisses them off, just cuz references. I also wonder if the emperor will have his own ship and or cryo pod. Probably, but, you never know.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: S34N1C on March 05, 2017, 10:50:13 am
PTW
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: Haspen on March 05, 2017, 10:52:44 am
A A Generation ship

A Commercial rockets, defunct satellites, space stations and such, of course.

C Chen Kwang-yi the Industralist.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: evilcherry on March 05, 2017, 12:13:52 pm
We are tied once again on the 1st and 2nd issue.

Probably, though, if we do end up with Chen the industrialist, I would say that we refer to their last name as Yakumo no mater how much it possibly pisses them off, just cuz references. I also wonder if the emperor will have his own ship and or cryo pod. Probably, but, you never know.

Some people would insist on Imperial Pronunciation to call him Chin Kin'i. But this is one of the least concerns of the empire. Also, perhaps one might notice that, Son Haneul has would be called Son Hanuru, but this does not stop some nationalists calling her Son Sora.

Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: piratejoe on March 05, 2017, 12:36:56 pm
I was saying Yakumo instead of Kwang-yi because it would be a reference, not due to pronunciation. But hey, at least we can put up a the more you know sign here. Also, considering you called Chen a him, that proves we cannot really reference the character that we'd be referencing by calling them Chen Yakumo or Yakumo Chen.

Also, willing to change my vote to A just to get this started due to the original spam man Haspin tying the vote
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: evilcherry on March 05, 2017, 01:55:00 pm
A, A, C. Before I go to sleep.

You called to help of Chen Kwang-yi, The industrialist hailing from Niitaka (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yushan_(mountain)#History) island. He would piecing the ship into space, which mainly utilizes defunct, mothballed, or outdated spacecrafts. These will be expanded into the proposed generation ship, before lifted into space piece by piece, for a launch somewhere in 2050, or optimistically 2049 as claimed by Chen.

Spring 2047, Estimated Completion: Spring 2050

Work started in earnest. One of the main choice for engineers is what kind of powerplant they are going to bring. Only fusion provides the endurance and power density for such a long journey. There is Magnetic Confinement Fusion, which is more promising technology and would be more efficient, but its breaking edge and would probably be never fully ironed out in these three years. There is also inertial confinement fusion, which is more commonly used, but less efficient and means more resources will be needed to build fuel storage.

A Magnetic Confinement Fusion
B Inertial Confinement Fusion

The Employment of Chen, meanwhile, has caused diplomatic tensions with the People's Republic. According to their version of events, Niitaka is theirs. While they don't object to his employment to the Empire, they would want you to share semiconductor production facility on the island for their spacecraft.

A Do we need so much ICs anyway? Buy them off.
B Do we need so much ICs anyway? We better trade them for aluminium and titanium frames for our spacecrafts.
C NIITAKA IS EMPIRE!
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: 10ebbor10 on March 05, 2017, 02:14:33 pm
A
B
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: piratejoe on March 05, 2017, 05:17:30 pm
A & C fuck off china you peace of shit, how you didn't get a 1991 Russian style rebellion or a dose of murican capitalism & freedom right to the face is beyond me. Besides, they where probably going to be our main enemy anyway seeing as china hates everyone in Asia but themselves. This is a proven fact IRL seeing as that they are tried to take over the Indonesian & Philippine parts of the south china sea with man made islands made on top of coral reefs. Also they are allied to North Korea so that's even more points to their jackass score.

Besides, we all know the real china is the republic of china, not the peoples republic of china, such a shame that the real china is stuck on Taiwan atm.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: VoidSlayer on March 05, 2017, 06:55:07 pm
A
B


I am sure we can work out the problems with MCF in the hundreds of years we will have!  Or explode or whatever.

We should save the violent combat for later stages.  I mean the world will likely go to shit anyway, no need to do that early.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: evilcherry on March 06, 2017, 01:10:22 am
Players: mind that no real-world countries or llamas are harmed. Flame at your own risk.

A B

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6oh my oh my oh my

It turns out that the People's Republic are actually suffering from key deficiencies in the production of low energy consumption, radiation hardened chips and circuitry, and they have a hard time sourcing for them. They are so desperate that they are willing to sell you some titanium production.

Chen estimate that with the newly acquired production capability we can launch the ship one quarter earlier than the original projections. Meanwhile, rattling the sabre for nothing means the People's Republic looked weak in such a poorly calculated move.

You also budget for MCF powerplants. The actual powerplant will only be installed in no earlier than 2049, and the current work is concentrated on erecting the hulls for the ark.

Summer 2047, Estimated Completion: Winter 2049



The choices for everyone's ships to Trappist-1 are out:

Atlantean Republic: Slow Cyro-liner
The Union: Slow Cyro-liner
The Northern Empire: Generation Ship
People's Republic: Fast Ship
The Federation: Fast Ship

This might need a change in your diplomatic priorities. Note that these are not the only ships that are built - there are ships to different stars, and your action affects them, too.


Your human psychologist suggest that in addition to the biological data bank on board and a room for vats of microorganisms needed for terraforming and food production, we should also bring a thousand sanitized rodents (or small herbivores) on board as a more pleasing food resource for the journey, and cyrosleeping larger animals to somehow recreate earth at the destination - this includes larger animals like elephants and whales. The live animals will replace the room for 100 men kept awake. The Cyrosleeping animals will replace a total of 10k cyrosleeping pods. We have the technology to genetically alter animals to prevent a genetic bottleneck, but the technology to produce large animals from nothing is problematic at best.

A To hell with that! Isn't space cake (A mixture of Rice, Seaweed and Microbes) good enough? Baka!
B We can cyrosleep the animals, but having live animals on board is a security risk.
C We need to keep our people happy. Lets bring all of them on board.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: overseer05-15 on March 06, 2017, 01:29:49 am
B is for baka
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: Demonic Spoon on March 06, 2017, 01:34:31 am
B
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Post by: 10ebbor10 on March 06, 2017, 02:55:11 am
B
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: VoidSlayer on March 06, 2017, 08:16:20 am
C, what could possibly go wrong with releasing rodents in a controlled environment?
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: evilcherry on March 06, 2017, 11:05:34 am
Disclaimer: Speculative Science here.

B

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6nani kore?

Your crew applicants were told that they have to endure space cake for the rest of their lives. Recruiters reported that the feedback was surprisingly positive.

Autumn 2047, Estimated Completion: Winter 2049

The second question would be the propulsion used. While you will definitely have ion thrusters as backup, Your engineers have put up three solutions to provide the main thrust:

A Good old VASIMR and ion thrusters, of course. Rough calculations means you will reach TRAPPIST-1 in 2000 years, give or take a few hundred.
B We should just tap into the reactor and reconfigure it as a fusion rocket! This would shorten the journey time to around 1000 years, but the energy budget would be much tighter.
C We need the most cutting edge technology available - Antimatter generators! Probably we can iron out all its problems. Journey time will be reduced 600 years, but this is utterly unproven technology - if it ultimately fails you would expect up to 20000 years to the destination, depending on how and when it become inoperable. That said, your energy supplies will not last that long. Hopefully you will have a plan B by then.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: 10ebbor10 on March 06, 2017, 11:26:03 am
A

Antimatter is too dangerous. Any failure that doesn't take place in the first 5-20% of our voyage will send us hopelessly overshooting our target.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: piratejoe on March 06, 2017, 11:47:45 am
B, that way we aren't to slow that we end up being beat to badly by the Chinese or the Federation and possibly can beat the other, not as good empire.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: TheBiggerFish on March 06, 2017, 12:43:08 pm
PTW.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: Haspen on March 06, 2017, 12:44:46 pm
A

Better get there late than explode midway from untested tech.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: Chrose on March 06, 2017, 12:57:14 pm
B
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: Harry Baldman on March 06, 2017, 01:01:36 pm
A, hopefully by that time the settlers will have experienced whatever apocalypse awaits them on TRAPPIST-1 and we can pick up the pieces.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: Demonic Spoon on March 06, 2017, 02:50:47 pm
C

2 Millennia generation ship is just asking for everything to go wrong. No thanks.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: Lorknis on March 06, 2017, 03:10:24 pm
C!

Gotta go fast. I mean it'll probably be fine, right?
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 06, 2017, 03:18:08 pm
Hey, isn't propulsion our speciality? We should be able to go for the slightly riskier (not riskiest) option without things going horribly wrong. Right?

B
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: VoidSlayer on March 06, 2017, 07:18:14 pm
B

No antimatter!

Although really antimatter regulated fusion would be okay.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: evilcherry on March 07, 2017, 12:46:19 am
AAA
BBBB
CC

You redesign the reactor so they have the option to redirect their output as thrust.

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5+1 you must have control of atmospheric noise!

Your talent as a propulsion engineer showed in the engine design. It is still under assembly but you fully expects it to consume less energy than current fusion rockets once online.


Winter 2047, Estimated Completion: Winter 2049

Your prospective crew come up with a petition to install "almost terrestrial" amenities on the ship. This includes a zero-g space-ball court, themed "relaxation' rooms under artificial gravity, small scale on-board manufacturing and production for more "natural" consumer goods, and a long list of minor, sundry items that you don't have the time to properly read. While the small items can be procured without much difficulty, the large items will take some time to properly assemble, and adding all these would add three months to the production. With the more efficient engine, though, most of it can be made available once the cruise phase of the journey is reached. You decide to:

A When can I get the key to the best themed relaxation room? Count me in sweetie. And please change my velvet bedsheet for a new one every month.
B Nah this is another distraction. We will have a gym for physical preparation for landing, but that's it.
C This man must be a spy. He will have no more to do with this ark.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: Haspen on March 07, 2017, 12:48:29 am
Creature comforts are important for wellbeing of any society.

A
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 07, 2017, 02:47:31 am
We went for the generation ship option, right? We can't expect 1000 people to spend 1000 years doing nothing but watch dials and occasionally go to the gym. They shall have their entertainments, to keep them sane during the journey.

A
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: Chrose on March 07, 2017, 03:32:53 am
A
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: piratejoe on March 07, 2017, 08:31:12 am
A, mind nummbing boredom can lead to mental breakdowns.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: evilcherry on March 07, 2017, 11:15:16 am
AAAA

You agree with the representative and agree to add another section to the ship to house the amenities.

Spring 2048, Estimated Completion: Spring 2050

You got grim news. Testing has found out that the latest shipment of titanium frame from the People's Republic was of substandard quality. Further testing reveal that the number of defects found is significantly but regularly higher in most of the imported frames. It looked like that one particular facility has been deliberately producing poor frames for us.

You talked with the espionage people in the military self defense forces. They believe that the People's Republic is too busy pushing production to undermine us through this. However, they do not rule out private citizens actively doing this out of patriotism, and the People's Republic, quite frankly, have a fiduciary duty to guarantee the quality of their exports.

You decide to:

A Keep silent. Try to trace and isolate the defective products, and divert some domestic production towards their replacement. This will delay production somehow.
B We have to trust the People's Republic this time to keep them in check, as we need their production too. We should work together to trace the source of the defective frames, and arrange to switch production to a less troublesome facility.
C This is an insult to The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun! This must be made public to corner the People's Republic diplomatically.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: 10ebbor10 on March 07, 2017, 12:25:43 pm
B
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: Haspen on March 07, 2017, 12:27:30 pm
B
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 07, 2017, 12:49:08 pm
We cannot accept more delays, but we also have no need to upset our neighbours. We can surely work together on this issue.

B
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: VoidSlayer on March 07, 2017, 11:27:00 pm
Aww no option D : undermine the quality of reactor parts we send them so their reactor explodes in transit.

C
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: piratejoe on March 07, 2017, 11:30:33 pm
Hehehhehe, they would probably find that bit out if we did that sadly....

C, because as stated before, both middle fingers held high against them.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: Lorknis on March 07, 2017, 11:36:04 pm
C!
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: evilcherry on March 07, 2017, 11:40:22 pm
Tiebreakers please.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: VoidSlayer on March 08, 2017, 01:49:04 am
Bah, I'll move to B, good relations and all that hippie crap.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: evilcherry on March 08, 2017, 10:37:18 am
You tried to reason with the People's Republic. They were very happy to pinpoint where the defective frames have come from; they are very happy to close that factory down and redirect production; they even let you conduct factory visits as often as you like, and let you test for quality as intensively as you wish. But even with these measures, the defective rates have not gone down - they have actually gone up. The situation was so bad that Chen has pushed the estimate time of completion for a quarter to Summer 2050.

You decide to:

A Unfortunately we are not in a position to rock the boat. We accept that their products are going to be defective, and will only let them build less crucial parts, while we specify for a higher standard to compensate. That said, there is only so much parts that can be produced at a lower standard, and thus domestic production is needed to fill in the gap. This will still push the date of completion another quarter down the road to Autumn 2050.
A1 Additionally, we decide to scale down the ship (to be decided in next update) to make up for lost time.
B We will stick to anti-sabotage guidelines to the word. We will dispatch people at every factory looking at every corner of it, we will conduct our own QC, we will place our own security devices with every shipment. This is going to be quite intrusive and the local populace will not like this, but unless we do this we will be never sure of the quality of the products.
C I told you this is an insult to The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun! Gather every Journalist and Netouyo to bombard the world with the misdeed of the People's Republic!
D Perhaps we should be a bit discreet? We tell our semicon exporters to export defective products. This will perhaps send a subtle message to the People's Republic to get their act together and purge the ringleaders to this conspiracy.

Summer 2048, Estimated Completion: Summer 2050

With the increasing tension, the military self defense forces are pledging you allow arms and armed personnels on board the ark. They have plans for personal arms on board, a railgun on a turret for anti-ship role, guided rockets, orbital bombs, and prototype space fighters/Humanoid robots on board. While the personal weapons are cheap, the space weapons are going to eat up more production. You decided that:

A Minimal policing with cudgels and tasers are enough.
B Lethal force is needed to keep the populace in check and spies out.

A Space weapons? Did you watch too much anime?
B We need some guns as a deterrent, but that's it.
C The Northern Empire and the People's Republic are not friendly. The ship should be armed to teeth, so when we get to the destination, we will land unopposed.

(No partial votes. Also, for the first vote, A and A1 will be counted together, but the choice with more people choosing will be chosen)
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: 10ebbor10 on March 08, 2017, 11:11:34 am
C We gave them a chance, now they face the consequences

B We're not going to be the first too land. Others may arrive hundreds of years before us. If we have no defenses, they may decide to steal our stuff.

C We're not going to be the first too land. Others may arrive hundreds of years before us. If we have no defenses, they may decide to steal our stuff.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: VoidSlayer on March 08, 2017, 11:14:00 am
D Hit them where it hurts

A We do not need weapons to keep the population in check.  If anything that would make it worse.

C
Yeah external weapons though?  Those we need.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 08, 2017, 11:14:52 am
...so much for amity in the face of human extinction.
1. A is a bad idea; why should we roll over and accept this sort of thing? B was stated earlier in the text not to work; doing it more seems foolish. C just invites the People's Republic to stop supplying us altogether. I say D; an eye for an eye.
2. Eh, why not. It's free (ish).
3. Really not a fan of pushing production back even more; all those weapons will take time to build. I say we trust in the goodness of man... wait, no, that'd be stupid. Minimal defences it is.

D, B, B
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: Lorknis on March 08, 2017, 11:26:39 am
...so much for amity in the face of human extinction.
1. A is a bad idea; why should we roll over and accept this sort of thing? B was stated earlier in the text not to work; doing it more seems foolish. C just invites the People's Republic to stop supplying us altogether. I say D; an eye for an eye.
2. Eh, why not. It's free (ish).
3. Really not a fan of pushing production back even more; all those weapons will take time to build. I say we trust in the goodness of man... wait, no, that'd be stupid. Minimal defences it is.

D, B, B
+1
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: evilcherry on March 08, 2017, 01:40:11 pm
You tell the semicon factories to deliberate introduce substandard chips into the export batch.

Not long later, the state television of the People's Republic is running a series of reports on the poor standard of ICs from the Empire. The program called for the People's Republic to develop its semicon industry to chase that of the empire; but the state microblog and state forums are vile with all kinds of accusations. Some people are questioning why they are suddenly importing so much microchips, especially from Niitaka which is perpetually a part of the People's Republic. Some heavy industry workers naively talked about increased production without extra pay. Then someone suggested that they should strike against unpaid overtime...

You soon heard that strikers has disrupted production, to the point that it grinds down to a halt. Given the graveness of the situation, you have full confidence that the People's Republic will end the strike quickly and forcefully by sending army columns into the factories, but production will not start until sometime later - that will translate to another wasted quarter for us. Worse still, It looks like that the global public will soon know that the true purpose of the arks.

At the same time, You authorized the police force on the ark to carry arms. Guns on ships of the navy and Tanks are appropriated for the Ark.

Autumn 2048, Estimated Completion: Autumn 2050

You start interviewing applicants for cyrosleeping passengers. Given that they are expected to live on the destination, competition is stiff - and your staff complains that they have no time to actually read the resume of all the applicants. They have a point, so you instruct them to...

A Stick to first come first served basis, and interview applicants until all the berths are filled.
B The Businessmen and industrialists of the Empire has contributed much towards the ark, and lets reward them with a space on it. We should tell the leading firms to give us a list of persons to be preserved on the ark, and to fill the ark from the list.
C We will resort to sortition. Applicants are divided by race and gender, before we randomly select people from them to recreate the composition of our society.
D Anyone not writing their name using imperial pronunciation is out. That would mean only people from the original Empire and some the most loyal citizens of the other parts are eligible. This would give us a more homogeneous, "purer" society at the destination, at the expense of genetic variety.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: crazyabe on March 08, 2017, 01:48:52 pm
PTW
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: Lorknis on March 08, 2017, 01:49:30 pm
C!
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 08, 2017, 03:11:29 pm
Well, I guess there was no way of getting out of that without suffering delays of some sort. Hopefully there will be no further problems.

Anyway. Hmm. None of these options appeal. It'd be nice to be able to filter for quality of applicant, but none of those options really do so.
I guess the best option is just to go random? It's the most 'fair', and will ensure that our new colony is at least no worse than our current society.

C
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: Haspen on March 08, 2017, 03:38:08 pm
Torn between B and C..

Let's go with B
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: crazyabe on March 08, 2017, 05:23:20 pm
C
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: VoidSlayer on March 08, 2017, 05:29:40 pm
Lets Buy some companies help.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: 10ebbor10 on March 08, 2017, 06:13:57 pm
B
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: Chiefwaffles on March 08, 2017, 07:26:18 pm
B is how you get an Ark full of middle managers.
C
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: piratejoe on March 08, 2017, 08:49:07 pm
C, though make sure the emperor has a spot too, wouldn't want to let Amaterasu's lineage die on earth now do we. Though, considering, he probably already has a spot.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: evilcherry on March 10, 2017, 11:57:27 am
BBB
CCCCC

You tell the interviewers and recruiters shortlist applicants through sortition, before interviewing for their psychological suitability. At least you prevented a society of middle managers or a society without anyone willing to become a janitor.

Naturally, the nationalists and the businessmen are not that pleased...

Winter 2048, Estimated Completion: Autumn 2050

You start to feel uneasy about the late estimated completion date at this point of time. Do you wish to carry less of an item to let you launch the ark a quarter earlier?

A Engines. You estimate that by using smaller but more efficient engines, you can reach TRAPPIST-1 in 1200 years.
B Fuel. There will be very little margin of error, and deployment will need to be swift at the destination. Then again you have someone going ahead of you.
C Colonists. You finish interviews early and bring only 30000 colonists in suspended animation.
D Industrial Equipment and raw material. You will only bring a very basic set of tools that is needed to start an industry, and you need to mine immediately. Hope those before you will not fail you.
E Autumn 2050 is not that late. Don't get distracted, you remind yourself.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 10, 2017, 12:06:29 pm
Hmm. Well, I say that as a propulsion scientist we know what we are doing when it comes to fuel usage, and of the proposed things to dump fuel is the only one that will be of little use at our destination. Time, labour, and materials are all needed to establish a new colony. Interstellar spacecraft fuel, not so much.

B
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: Haspen on March 10, 2017, 12:08:23 pm
^this

B

However, is that 2050 date a date when Earth goes explody? Or is it gonna be a gradual but inevitable deterioration of, I don't know, atmosphere or something?
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: crazyabe on March 10, 2017, 01:38:01 pm
E.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: piratejoe on March 10, 2017, 01:53:56 pm
B
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: 10ebbor10 on March 10, 2017, 03:08:24 pm
E
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: Lorknis on March 10, 2017, 03:24:03 pm
E!
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 10, 2017, 03:30:30 pm
Quote
E
So, uh, you are aware that the world is gonna end at some point in 2050, right? An unexpected delay or two could see us failing to complete the Ark.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: Tyrant Leviathan on March 10, 2017, 06:17:30 pm
B. Need space for colony. As a smart person in propulsion will make it count and we are on a deadline. Literally by late 2050 game over.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: VoidSlayer on March 10, 2017, 08:08:57 pm
1200 years?  That is enough time to fully colonize the entire system, then collapse down into pre-industrial states on terraformed worlds, the slowly rebuild civilization through a dark age, then collapse and rebuild a second time.  Earth and the other colony ships might not even be myths.

I like it.  We will have extra fuel, a long term proven habitat and the tools to repair and upgrade it once we reach the system.  Even if the rest of humanity has died out or become decadent or collapse we can survive fine.

A
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: evilcherry on March 11, 2017, 10:20:52 am
A
BBBB
EEE

You hastily made an instruction to build less fuel tanks for fuel.

Spring 2049, Estimated Completion: Summer 2050

TIME OF RECKONING: ARE OUR UNDERGROUND CITIES FAKE?
NO FUTURE WITH UNDERGROUND CITIES
UNDERAGE GIRLS SEEN OUTSIDE VILLA: HOW FAR ARE THE 0.1% WILLING TO PAY FOR PLACES ON THE ARK?
TRUE NEWS: WE 99.9% ARE DOOMED
BLACKS AND LATINOS GIVEN PREFERENCE BEFORE WHITES AND ASIANS

A leaks website have been running vile with these headlines. The government assures that there will be no immediate threat to your job.

Summer 2049, Estimated Completion: Summer 2050

The All-Hexanation of the Pacific labour movement - Hexanation of the Pacific being the republican name of our mighty Empire of the Rising Sun - has threatened to hold a general strike. They specifically required an answer to all those allegations!

You met with your superiors.

"Araya-san," the Prime Minister said with a grim face. "Our hands are tied at this moment. There are red lines everywhere and we can't afford to cave in to the workers. However, as the work of the arks are of prime importance, we feel we need to have your input on how we should handle this."

You mulled for a bit and...

A "Prime Minister, I guess we need to arrest the Union Bosses."
B "Prime Minister, I guess we need to bribe the Union Bosses using beautiful girls and guarantee for some berths on the Ark."
C "Prime Minister, we should just keep silent and wait until the people are fed up with this strike."
D "Prime Minister, its time to revive the army and declare martial law.'
E -
F You keep silent.
G You keep silent. Perhaps its a good time to meet the Union Bosses for real, radical political change...
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 11, 2017, 10:38:34 am
Oh boy.
I mean, fair enough, right? How do you convince people to spend their last years building a spaceship that they almost certainly will not be allowed to board?
...
Well, one way or another, we have to do it. Let's consider our options.
Spoiler: options (click to show/hide)
...
I think D is the way to go. The army should be able to keep things under control for a year, right? Even if we have to make people work at gunpoint.

D
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: 10ebbor10 on March 11, 2017, 12:09:00 pm
E
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: crazyabe on March 11, 2017, 12:17:05 pm
B.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: evilcherry on March 11, 2017, 12:30:09 pm
E
Your conscience precludes from choosing option E. Try again.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: piratejoe on March 11, 2017, 06:05:56 pm
Honestly, I wish there was an option to go out there and say "Look, guys, do you want all of us and our nation to die? If so, keep going on strike, otherwise, we need you to be able to save this nation." or something along those lines.

Regardless, its time we put the E in Empire, as much as it sucks to do so. D, suppress them but try not to kill anyone.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: Chrose on March 12, 2017, 01:20:23 am
D
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: evilcherry on March 12, 2017, 12:33:55 pm
B
DDD

Quote
1

Martial law was declared. Long stored insignia were brought out as the army reasserts itself as the army. Non-essential trades are told to cough up enough workers and production capacity to fill in the gaps.

Alas, this also does not end well from the very minute its declared. Years of peaceful coexistence sapped the will of the army to fight. Mutinies are reported everywhere, with some soldiers switching sides almost immediately. The most loyal troops acted as military police, and while they are successful in restoring order at the most crucial industries, there are only so many of them.

What was only a threat yesterday becomes the The great strike today. Factories are now working at half capacity, meaning that work will only progress half as fast as planned. On the other hand, to handle the crisis, you are now meeting with your superiors more frequently.

In other news, There are similar disturbances in the world. Though it would be absurd to classify this as good news now.

Late Summer 2049, Estimated Completion: Late Summer 2050

There is no end to the strike. What will you do?

A Plead the workers to go back to work.
B Plead the workers to go back to work, and reserve some space for some of the workers who do want to work.
C Incentivise soldiers to stick to their job by promising them a higher chance than commoners for space.
D Import foreigners to take their place by promising them a chance for space.
E We wait for one half season and see what happens.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: TheBiggerFish on March 12, 2017, 12:42:20 pm
B?
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 12, 2017, 12:50:58 pm
There is not enough space for all the hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of workers we need to complete the project. There is space for a few thousand loyal soldiers, though- and a thousand loyal soldiers means ten thousand working workers. And we don't even need to promise them a spot, just a better chance for one. We could convert hundreds of thousands of soldiers at the cost of only ten thousand berths.
Or something. I dunno, maybe that's getting a little despotic. Perhaps a heartfelt plea for unity would work?
...nah.

C
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: piratejoe on March 12, 2017, 02:04:04 pm
C Welp, time to go the way of the old rising sun empire....Im sure the current emperor is going to have a lot to do once we get to where we're going.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: Chrose on March 13, 2017, 12:31:23 am
C
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: piratejoe on March 15, 2017, 03:12:15 pm
Bump?
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: evilcherry on March 16, 2017, 10:39:02 am
Yes I was a bit busy these days...

B
CCC

Quote
2

Early Autumn 2049, Estimated Completion: Late Summer 2050

Despite your best efforts, most of the soldiers were firmly in solidarity with the strikers. A small consolation is that the soldiers who keep on doing their jobs has done very well to prevent the situation from deteriorating.

Despite this There is no end to the strike. What will you do?

A Plead the workers to go back to work.
B Plead the workers to go back to work, and reserve some space for some of the workers who do want to work.
C You tell the Prime Minister to authorize soldiers to open fire at anyone who disobeyed work orders - and deserters.
D Import foreigners to take their place by promising them a chance for space.
E You reserve space only for those who are working on the spaceship. There is still a lottery to be done though.
F We wait for one half season and see what happens.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: Lorknis on March 16, 2017, 10:44:35 am
E, with a bit of a caveat.

When/If we get to our new planet, there is a potential for those among the strikers to be selected through pure luck of the lottery. Therefore, I propose that those among the strikers are actually disqualified from the lottery from their act of disobedience.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 16, 2017, 10:45:56 am
Okay, so, despotism is not working. I don't think tripling down on martial law by authorising gunfire is going to help at this point. I guess all we can do is pray that pleading works. And if it doesn't, well, how bad can the apocalypse be, right?

B
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: piratejoe on March 16, 2017, 12:17:12 pm
B, for the above stated reasons.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: evilcherry on March 19, 2017, 12:59:39 am
BB
E

Just like in any labour dispute, the best, if not the most controversial, way to solve it is by deliberately treating some of the labour better than the others. In the past, they may have a family and can be easily enticed as they are the sole breadwinner; this time, they gleely return to work because they actually have a chance to live.
The factories are filled soon; some of them have to even turn away workers who have been agitators in the past, or who were late when reporting back to work.

Congratulations! You have solved the labour crisis... for the moment.


Late Autumn 2049, Estimated Completion: Early Autumn 2050

The Great Huge Republic of the Atlantic is always Great. And Huge. But this time it has some big problems. And this is not going to work. Its going to fail bigly.

Refugees. What has been seen as a refugee importer is now suddenly becoming an exporter, as the global crisis worsens. It looks like that there are minor criminals, drug addicts, bible thumpers, and bona fide political refugees. As we do have a land border with them that is not lined by THAT wall, all sorts of people can just hike over it for refuge.

In response, the nationalists have organized the "Movement for a Pure Empire", which calls for expulsion of all refugees, plus anyone who do not receive the imperial pronunciation fully except those who are irreplaceable. Practically, that means those no on "Empire Proper" will be dumped somewhere else in the world.

A Open borders, with incentives.
B Just Open borders but we don't care to integrate them into our society or we are going to carry them in space, given our constraints.
C Only bona fide political refugees are allowed in. Return everyone else. Nor we are going to let them on the ships anyway.
D Sorry the border is now closed.
E For a Pure and Red Empire!
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: crazyabe on March 19, 2017, 01:12:00 am
B.
Title: Re: Spamoutpost! - Emi Araya of the Ark of The Reformed Empire of the Rising Sun
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 19, 2017, 02:20:20 am
Okay then.
It's the end of the world, who cares where people choose to die? Let them come.

B