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Dwarf Fortress => DF Dwarf Mode Discussion => Topic started by: Urist Imiknorris on May 04, 2011, 02:05:50 pm

Title: A thought on power
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on May 04, 2011, 02:05:50 pm
Why is it that our mature fortresses all use green energy sources (wind, water, geothermal) if we're so fixated on burning everything and raping the land?
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: NecroRebel on May 04, 2011, 02:07:09 pm
Burning and raping the land is recreational. Where business is concerned, though, sustainability is the name of the game.
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: Necro910 on May 04, 2011, 02:09:15 pm
Burning and raping the land is recreational. Where business is concerned, though, sustainability is the name of the game.
Indeed.
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: CinnibarMan on May 04, 2011, 02:09:38 pm
Burning and raping the land is recreational. Where business is concerned, though, sustainability is the name of the game.

A sig is you.
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on May 04, 2011, 02:11:31 pm
^^ Where busi indeed.
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: CinnibarMan on May 04, 2011, 02:12:55 pm
^^ Where busi indeed.

Stupid character limit.

You are embarrassing me in front of all my important random internet stranger friends.
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: Necro910 on May 04, 2011, 02:18:53 pm
^^ Where busi indeed.

Stupid character limit.

You are embarrassing me in front of all my important random internet stranger friends.
Ironically, I'd sig this if I had room. All the URL's take up massive amounts of space  >:(
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: WJLIII3 on May 04, 2011, 02:53:57 pm
Well, I mean, I try to clearcut forests for coal power, but sooner or later I run out of wood anyway, and am forced to return to magma for my forges
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: Necro910 on May 04, 2011, 02:57:01 pm
Well, I mean, I try to clearcut forests for coal power, but sooner or later I run out of wood anyway, and am forced to return to magma for my forges
Wait, whaaa?

Why wouldn't you just only use magma? Magma is cheap, abundant, renewable, and magma forges don't destroy any!
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: Darkmere on May 04, 2011, 02:58:09 pm
Why WOULDN'T you go out of your way to clearcut forests?

I smell an elf...
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: Triaxx2 on May 04, 2011, 02:58:45 pm
Fah. This is DWARF FORTRESS. We can rape and burn the land, and run clean geothermal energy. (Seriously, run your magma stack up to the top of the world and flood the ground with magma and build your forges out on magma-safe constructions. With walk ways connecting them. :D)
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: Necro910 on May 04, 2011, 02:59:16 pm
Why WOULDN'T you go out of your way to clearcut forests?

I smell an elf...
Indeed. And he's refusing to use magma!
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: IcarusOne on May 04, 2011, 07:02:08 pm
Because using green energy is just another human saying for "making nature one's bitch."
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: EBannion on May 04, 2011, 10:27:49 pm
Well, I mean, I try to clearcut forests for coal power, but sooner or later I run out of wood anyway, and am forced to return to magma for my forges

When I start getting to this point, I just ask the caravans for wood and they bring me truly absurd amounts of logs.
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: Sphalerite on July 30, 2011, 01:01:41 pm
If there was a way to use coal to replace wind or water power, I'm sure that there would be people who'd insist on doing it.  As it is, there's no way to use non-green power sources for mechanical power.  Although I like to imagine that a properly built dwarven water reactor is somehow an abomination against nature that the elves would condemn if they understood.

I use magma for my forges, but I end up clear-cutting the forest anyway, to make pearlash for clear glass blocks and windows.
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: CriticallyAshamed on July 30, 2011, 06:02:17 pm
I only use magma but I still pillage the land!

How else are you meant to make woodcrafts to try to sell to elves?
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: ThatAussieGuy on July 30, 2011, 09:37:31 pm
What's the point of using everyday fuel sources when we already pervert the laws of thermodynamics to make magma our pumpstacked bitch? Seems like a step backwards if you ask me.
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on July 30, 2011, 09:54:59 pm
I only use magma but I still pillage the land!

How else are you meant to make woodcrafts to try to sell to elves?

Steal woodcrafts from elves to try to sell to elves?
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: Deus Machina on July 31, 2011, 02:38:38 am
I guarantee that as soon as steam or burning booze creates considerably pressure, it will be about five minutes after the announcement that someone has a magma-and-sewer-brew based turbine.
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: Oliolli on July 31, 2011, 02:51:30 am
Which happens about two minutes after someone creates a pressure-based noble-and-prisoner-execution chamber.
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: Deus Machina on July 31, 2011, 03:35:36 am
Which happens about two minutes after someone creates a pressure-based noble-and-prisoner-execution chamber.

We have that. It's called a bridge.

Pressure is pressure, right?
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: Oliolli on July 31, 2011, 04:15:50 am
Alright, a steam pressure-based one.
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: ThatAussieGuy on July 31, 2011, 07:07:02 am
Which happens about two minutes after someone creates a pressure-based noble-and-prisoner-execution chamber.

We have that. It's called a bridge.

Pressure is pressure, right?

Pressure plate + bridge = a noble being elevated far above their station, followed by being brought back down to earth by common sense. And gravity.
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: ClkWrkJester on July 31, 2011, 08:56:25 am
I am offended at the implication that a true dorf would ever clearcut a forest for material gain.  That he would destroy the fortress just to make some meagre amounts of glass.

A true dorf clearcuts to make the flooding and magma sprayers more predictable on the surface.
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: Triaxx2 on July 31, 2011, 10:48:30 am
A true dorf clear cuts to make room for his solid Obsidian Magma spewing trees. with magma pouring out the tips of the fronds.
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: imperium3 on July 31, 2011, 11:00:39 am
I guarantee that as soon as steam or burning booze creates considerably pressure, it will be about five minutes after the announcement that someone has a magma-and-sewer-brew based turbine.

And one minute after that, they'll invent the dwarven reactor meltdown...
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: Number4 on July 31, 2011, 01:04:12 pm
I am offended at the implication that a true dorf would ever clearcut a forest for material gain.  That he would destroy the fortress just to make some meagre amounts of glass.

A true dorf clearcuts to make the flooding and magma sprayers more predictable on the surface.

No. A true dorf clears the forest for no particular reason, just to annoy the elves.
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on July 31, 2011, 01:11:47 pm
If there was a way to use coal to replace wind or water power, I'm sure that there would be people who'd insist on doing it.  As it is, there's no way to use non-green power sources for mechanical power.  Although I like to imagine that a properly built dwarven water reactor is somehow an abomination against nature that the elves would condemn if they understood.

I use magma for my forges, but I end up clear-cutting the forest anyway, to make pearlash for clear glass blocks and windows.
necrobump?

Nope. The actual necro was removed for... reasons.
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: Triaxx2 on July 31, 2011, 01:52:47 pm
Bow-chika-wow-wow...
Title: Re: A thought on power
Post by: ThatAussieGuy on August 01, 2011, 06:16:04 am
I am offended at the implication that a true dorf would ever clearcut a forest for material gain.  That he would destroy the fortress just to make some meagre amounts of glass.

A true dorf clearcuts to make the flooding and magma sprayers more predictable on the surface.

No. A true dorf clears the forest for no particular reason, just to annoy the elves.


A true dwarf uses magma to burn the land, boil the sea and build a killsat over the sky to take it away from those goddamn giant eagles.