Aside from fixing some crash bugs, the main change this time is the addition of specific pile types. You can access these from [q] on existing piles or you can set them when you are placing piles by selecting "custom settings". Piles now make claims on bins and barrels. This is displayed as "Cedar Bin <12>". You can use the [q] view for a pile to set the maximum number of bins and barrels it uses. For now, a pile will only take one extra empty bin/barrel until something is placed inside, then it will take another until it gets up to the maximum. We'll add some other options later. In the [p]ile menu, you can also designate a number of reserved bins and barrels that will be used by jobs such as distillation before any stockpile gets to claim them.
[ October 29, 2006: Message edited by: Toady One ]
[ October 30, 2006: Message edited by: Toady One ]
Mmmmmm... specific stockpiles....
Well, so much for sleep!
Thanks!
Thanks Toady.
[ October 29, 2006: Message edited by: Toady One ]
[ October 29, 2006: Message edited by: Abyssal Squid ]
I found a weird behaviour, I made a food pile, then a second one and changed settings on the second one to forbid everything, then just permit fish. My initial alchohol barrels are still being loaded onto the fish stockpile though. I don't think they were already tasked for that pile since they had the other one, but who knows
I'll check the pile distinction. If the game had any chance to put them in the pile before the drink became forbidden the haul jobs would stay, but I think there's an issue with barrels in some places. For instance, an empty barrel will probably always be brought to a furniture pile even if you turn off everything... at least if you turn it off in a certain way. I'm working on these.
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Originally posted by Mechanoid:
<STRONG>Fap?
FAP FAP FAP!</STRONG>
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Originally posted by Toady One:
<STRONG>Was it an old world where the items weren't selectable? I think some of the old worlds force the "local plants" condition a bit to harshly, and you can't bring plump helmet products because they can't be found around your home civ. The newest world generation should correct this.</STRONG>
Yeah, I wanted to rush to check out the new stockpile menu and just copied an old save. Should make for an interesting challenge for a bit, at least.
As you can see from the labels, the rump usually has the best meat, but on a young, tender nothing child the thighs are tasty, too.
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Originally posted by Abyssal Squid:
<STRONG>Is it intentional that you can't start out with plump helmets, plump helmet spawn, or dwarven wine?[ October 29, 2006: Message edited by: Abyssal Squid ]</STRONG>
I noticed sometime last week that the availability and (I think) price of starting items now varies.
I think that it didn't vary before that, but all I know for sure is that it now does.
[ October 29, 2006: Message edited by: w ]
NEW VERSION UP IT FIXES A CRASH BUG THAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU SAVE AND LOAD WITH A FURNITURE PILE AND THEN LOOK AT ITS CUSTOM MENU
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Originally posted by DDouble:
<STRONG>I get the option to bring "Nothing" and "Nothing Child" in the animals list at start. Also, there is "Nothing Meat" in the meats list (which I noticed was cut down quite a bit, not very many meats left).</STRONG>
Then you've got a domesticated animal that has spaces between the colons in the name. Check your RAW files, particularly the pig if you just copy pasted that, and you'll have to regen to fix this, sadly.
And just out of curiousity - how many units of wine, ale or whatever does a barrel (or should) contain?
quote:My suggestion is to fix it when you add fixes for the stack/wine recombining issues implied above (so dwarves continue to pour newly-brewed wine into barrels until those barrels are full, rather than wasting a million barrels for half a drop of wine each.)
Originally posted by Toady One:
<STRONG>Yeah, that's been a problem for a while. And nobody wants me to fix it...</STRONG>
The two are logically connected, and once dwarves combine things more efficiently, the player won't need so many barrels anyway.
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Originally posted by Aquillion:
<STRONG>My suggestion is to fix it when you add fixes for the stack/wine recombining issues implied above (so dwarves continue to pour newly-brewed wine into barrels until those barrels are full, rather than wasting a million barrels for half a drop of wine each.)The two are logically connected, and once dwarves combine things more efficiently, the player won't need so many barrels anyway.</STRONG>
I think a limit on this should be to lock the barrel into the brewery til filled then let it be put in a stock then it has to be emptied before it can be brought back to the brewery to be filled again. booze isn't like water where dumping more into an old barrel has no effect on it lol booze needs to be aged and all that you know :)
now if we could make dwarves use the least full barrel they can find free it would make that viable eh? :)
*EDIT* n/m they finally got around to moving em to barrels ;)
[ October 30, 2006: Message edited by: DimmurWyrd ]
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Originally posted by Aquillion:
<STRONG>My suggestion is to fix it when you add fixes for the stack/wine recombining issues implied above (so dwarves continue to pour newly-brewed wine into barrels until those barrels are full, rather than wasting a million barrels for half a drop of wine each.)The two are logically connected, and once dwarves combine things more efficiently, the player won't need so many barrels anyway.</STRONG>
Perhaps the craftsdwarf should be able to make smaller stone jugs to store liquids in. A smaller capacity liquid holding device. This would allow the starting equipment to include less or no barrels, and instead have jugs.
Given how much they like their hooch, it does make a lot of sense.
Will dwarf start to haul the items out of barrels,or just wait the items in the barrels to be consumed,or need to build new barrels,to satisfy the number of "Reserved Barrels"?
Can I specify a number of barrels to install certain type of items,or to only be used for certain job(brewing,etc.),just like the stockpiles do?
Now, my barrels are full of food.I just want to have some empty barrels for brewing.Please teach me how to do(Except making lots of extra barrels.),thanks.
[ October 31, 2006: Message edited by: savagust ]
[ October 31, 2006: Message edited by: Toady One ]
A pile will claim no more than "Max #" barrels/bins.
The pool from which all piles claim barrels/bins does not include the first "Reserved #" empty barrels.
[ October 31, 2006: Message edited by: savagust ]
But I think players can effectively simulate that now by putting in small stockpiles customized to hold whatever they want for that barrel.
And, really, the armor/weapon stand system didn't seem to work so well that we'd want to go around using it for other things, did it?