i find it rather easy to imagine how a stew made of plump helmet,dwarven ale and pig tail seeds would look like.i imagine beer biscuits as using something simple and stable as a main ingredient regardless of whether the description mentions it,and simply being cooked with beer for flavour.when i see a roast made out of cat tallow,gray langure eyes,dwarven sugar and pig milk,however...yuck
That is a cake. Instead of butter, we have tallow. Sugar and milk equals pastries. I don't know who the hell eats eyes, but hey. Spell Happy birthday with them.
For the most part, dwarven cuisine is not something I would care to imagine--- In fact, so much so that I have seriously contemplated a cooking mod for the kitchen workshop.
Pastry needs oil. It is not optional. The thicker, heavier, and creamier the lipid, the better.My knowledge of all things pastry is a little low, so I'll defer to your judgement on that, but I stand by my statement about 3 flour + 1 sugar making essentially a big loaf of bread with sugary glaze on top
I imagine drink quality would be about brewing time (longer time = higher quality) and skill (for factors like not dropping dirt into the drink you're brewing), so I imagine it would come to a tradeoff:
For the most part, dwarven cuisine is not something I would care to imagine--- In fact, so much so that I have seriously contemplated a cooking mod for the kitchen workshop.
that would be very interesting.especially if you found a way to put quality levels in boozes and generally make better quality drinks
a lot of people eat eyes.fish eyes are considered a delicacy in some places(especially if the fish is big enough),and animal heads are used for soup.not too long ago,meat was quite expensive,so when an animal was slaughtered they didn't let even one part go to waste.
i find it rather easy to imagine how a stew made of plump helmet,dwarven ale and pig tail seeds would look like.i imagine beer biscuits as using something simple and stable as a main ingredient regardless of whether the description mentions it,and simply being cooked with beer for flavour.when i see a roast made out of cat tallow,gray langure eyes,dwarven sugar and pig milk,however...yuckSome kind of bastard cheese cake made of fat milk and sugar and topped with monkey eyes.
you mean like this dish? http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smalahove
And no, I have not tried it..
.... Since we are preparing meals, break it down into entrées, then assemble those entrées into meals. ...
.... Since we are preparing meals, break it down into entrées, then assemble those entrées into meals. ...
I'd like to point out that the vast majority of "medieval-ish" societies don't feature meat as a default component. Usually, the core of a diet is a starch... bread-like products (loaves, biscuits, hoe cakes, pastry cases, etc.) from a grain (wheat, rye, oat, etc.), potato, corn (maize), rice, manioc, legumes, pulses, squashes, and so on. The better-quality ones of these also have significant other dietary contribution, including protein. For peoples that need more energy (active workers, warriors, cold-climate dwellers, etc.), you'll see more supplementation with fats and alcohols to provide higher energy density. Meats are typically a comparatively small part of overall diet; they may be culturally significant as luxury or ceremonial foods, or sparingly used as an accent.
Cultures in cold climates will typically have a lot more meats and alcohols; cultures in hot climates will typically have a lot more fruits. But I'd say that you've got things backward from a historical perspective (and much of the world even today): what you label as "filler" is actually the core of the meal, around which everything else is ultimately organized.
I've got some more thoughts forming on fundamentally fungal-based cuisines; we've got far fewer historical examples to draw on, but I'd guess at a start that the plump helmet fills in a role that's vaguely analogous to squash: partway between vegetable and core starch.
You need a solid base food in-game to cook something, you can't just turn syrup and beer into candy unfortunately. If you could though, it would probably end up as a pretty musky tasting soup...you mean like this dish? http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smalahove
And no, I have not tried it..
yes,that is exactly the thing i had in mind when i wrote that.i have tried a very similar dish in Megara.i was with a friend and we were returning from our vacations,when we felt hungry,so we stopped to eat.the thing is,there was only one tavern in the town that we knew of,and it was kind of early so they hadn't prepared much.only chicken,and...roasted lamb head!out of curiosity,we ordered both the chicken and the head...
it was better than it sounds,actually.the brain was particularly nice...
there was also a family of tourists nearby.the look on their faces as they watched us ate the head was priceless:a mix of disgust,fascination,and plain"wow,these assholes are eating this thing for real?"
and wait,it gets worse.much worse.
http://www.okinawahostels.com/files/u2/fish-eyes-heiwadori-market-naha.jpg (http://www.okinawahostels.com/files/u2/fish-eyes-heiwadori-market-naha.jpg)
is there a way to make a roast only out of drinks,or is the game sane in that department?how do you guys think it would look like?
Plump helmets are the only "dwarven" crop that can be eaten raw, and I would guess that they are the most widely produced and therefore the most widely consumed. On the other hand, there are three other more specialized underground crops that Dwarves eat in some form. Cave wheat is milled into flour, sweet pods into sugar or syrup, and quarry bushes are grown for their leaves and to press rock nuts, either into a paste or for oil. There are also a few other uniquely Dwarven foodstuffs, like Dwarven cheese. I don't think I've ever actually seen a purring maggot though, so I'm inclined to view this as a delicacy.So plump helmets are like cave apples, you could theoretically make them to only thing your fortress grows/eats/brews, but it won't be very efficient use of space or resources when the other crops offer more output and diversity with slightly more work
Pastry needs oil. It is not optional. The thicker, heavier, and creamier the lipid, the better.
This is because it is the oil that allows the pastry to form layers, and the layers are what make if flaky and crisp. Traditionally, the best oils to use were hard white lard, white tallow, and cold butter.
You can also use vegetable oils if you chill then whip the bejeebus out of them, but that requires litterally freezing temperatures. (Like, in the deep freeze. It also requires you to either work VERY fast, or to have to keep returning the unfinished pastry to the freezer; if you take too long working the dough, it wont come out right though. That's why you should probably use that saturated, hard fat-- white lard, hard tallow, or chilled butter instead. Just throwing this little aside in for those vegans that want pastry without the animal products)
Historically accurate metalworking. Pastry. Fungus-based diets. Attack tokens. Dinosaurs.