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Title: Let's Play Shadow President (Obsolete)
Post by: Tok'ra Operative on September 15, 2016, 08:00:09 pm
Since User "Angel Of Death" has entered into an indefinite period of cybernetic hibernation resulting in the death of the previous "Let's Play Shadow President" here on Bay 12 Games, I have decided to personally start up a new topic from scratch. I am also pleased to report that the long-awaited scenario "Soviet Storm Rising" has finally been released; I repeat the new scenario has finally been released and has been uploaded onto Google Drive.

The scenario will start off with the Soviet Union and her Warsaw Pact allies having just begun their full-scale invasion of (West) Germany. All of NATO is actively committed to the defense of (West) Germany with the exception of the United States. It is entirely up to the player to immediately join in the conflict thereby committing to a tense shooting war with the Soviet Union OR remain neutral thereby leaving Europe to their fate. Do keep in mind however that the Soviet Union will very shortly begin a series of surgical strikes upon the United States. If successful, Soviet leadership will be 100% while U.S. leadership is sliced down to roughly 30%. Furthermore the Soviet Union will make an assassination attempt; it is actually possible to get knocked out before the first week had even gone by. Even if assassination is avoided, it is still possible to lose a single advisor which could certainly hurt in the long-term. Over the first month, additional fighting breaks out in Latin America and the Korean Peninsula. Over the second month, conflicts erupt throughout Africa. Priority should obviously be given to U.S.A. World Team Alliance members with most military aid money and troop deployments reserved for the defense of (West) Germany. The conflict could remain entirely conventional OR it could very well go nuclear.

I am also pleased to report that I am well into putting together yet ANOTHER scenario. This one will be called "World Socialist Order" which is an alternate sequel and sort of the "Super Iraq" version of "Soviet Storm Rising". The Soviet Union won World War III and Europe is dominated by Communism and Socialism. Russia and China are the dominate world powers while the U.S. has become a third rate power. U.S. ideology is changed to Nationalist and the country is in a civil war. China's ideology changed to Democratic Socialist and is in a new cold war with the USSR.

Soviet Storm Rising (Third World War - 1990)
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Soviet Storm Rising (Status View Maps)
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Old "Let's Play Shadow President" Topic (Link)
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IMPORTANT EDIT: DO NOT resort to camping in the War Room to try to stave off impeachment. Doing so can lead to in-game glitches including bugged maps, consistent game freezes on advisor pages, etc.

Update Edit: Scenario download link has been updated.
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: GentlemanRaptor on September 15, 2016, 08:12:03 pm
It begins. Can't wait to dive in!
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: Relic on September 15, 2016, 08:13:23 pm
Looking forward to it :)
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: EuchreJack on September 17, 2016, 03:29:33 am
Awesome!

I look forward to reading people's stories about this new scenario.
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: Tok'ra Operative on September 26, 2016, 01:39:28 am
Let's Play Shadow President (Soviet Storm Rising)

July 1, 1990

It is one month to the day since the start of the Third World War. Soviet-led Warsaw Pact forces continue their invasion of (West) Germany. Both sides have sustained considerable losses in the tens of thousands. Roughly three quarters of the U.S. Armed Forces have been committed to the defense of (West) Germany; all military and covert financial aid has been pulled from non-aligned countries and rerouted over to NATO and U.S. has withdrawn from Saudi Arabia (one less reason for Osama to attack America) & Egypt. Additional U.S. forces were also deployed to Central America to defend Honduras from invading Cuban, Nicaraguan, and Soviet forces; North Korean troops have also invaded South Korea so yet more troops may need to be deployed overseas. In late June '90, the Second Tiananmen Square Revolt escalated when Chinese Nationalists marched on Beijing and overthrew the Communist Party; should make for an interesting "Capitalists versus Nationalists" Cold War II down the road; or "Capitalists versus Nationalists versus Communists" should the Soviet Union be spared from invasion. Iraq sponsored a coup in Saudi Arabia; Imperialists are now in charge.

The Third World War - 1990 (Central Front)
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The Third World War - 1990 (Red Dawn Invasion Scare)
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The Third World War - 1990 (One Month Later)
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The Third World War - 1990 (World Status Maps)
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August 1, 1990

Conflict has erupted in nearly every corner of the globe from Europe to Asia and from Latin America to Africa. Over 90% of the U.S. Armed Forces have been deployed to Europe, Latin America, and Asia to protect U.S.A. World Team Alliance members from continuing Communist aggression. Sending additional troops to Africa to defend the Centralists and Imperialists would risk leaving the U.S. open for invasion so there's not much that can be done about the Communist expansions there. No additional coups have occurred the previous month. Due to the Nationalist takeover increasing China's ethics from 1.0 to 2.0, the scheduled invasion of Taiwan was cancelled.

The Third World War - 1990 (Month 2)
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The Third World War - 1990 (Frontlines)
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Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: NRDL on September 26, 2016, 03:37:11 am
I'm getting legitimate nostalgia from this.  PT motherfucking W. 
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: Tok'ra Operative on September 26, 2016, 12:01:44 pm
Breaking News!

At exactly midnight on September 21, 1990, America was viciously attacked by terrorists from Congo. The terrorists in question triggered an explosion at a chemical plant in Montana, claiming the lives of over 500 American citizens. The President is currently weighing several options of retaliation against Congo including blocking trade and potential military strikes. The latter is risky since Congo is an ally of the Soviet Union and risks retaliation. Even if military force is used, chances are it will be via airstrike and special operations rather then military invasion due to the fact that over 90% of the military is already committed to combat operations around the globe.

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Edit Update: The U.S. has retaliated against Congo for the terrorist attack in Montana. Aside from the usual condemnation and full trade embargo, the U.S. Navy attacked a military installation on the outskirts of Brazzaville with a cruise missile strike. 398 Congolese military personnel and 80 civilians were killed in the attack; furthermore all Congolese nuclear spending was eliminated. The Soviet Union while irritated has not militarily retaliated against our nation.
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: Tok'ra Operative on October 01, 2016, 05:57:29 am
Soviet Storm Rising (Let's Play & Scenario Update)

I have updated the scenario Soviet Storm Rising. Panama has become a U.S. holding and the events file was updated to indicate an invasion of (West) Germany from the Soviet Union. I have also edited the Read Me file, eliminating bad pointers and adding some good ones. It is best to read that particular file over before playing.

My current "Let's Play" has reached the start of 1991; due to the unique arrangement of global politics such as Nationalist China, I have decided to add "Soviet Storm Rising II" as a second scenario set on January 1, 1991.

Soviet Storm Rising II (Starting Point)
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Soviet Storm Rising II (World War III)
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Soviet Storm Rising II (Status View Maps)
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Soviet Storm Rising II (Frontlines)
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Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: GentlemanRaptor on October 03, 2016, 12:12:11 pm
The D/L is working again - thanks!
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: Tok'ra Operative on October 06, 2016, 01:32:58 pm
Soviet Storm Rising (Let's Play Update - NATO Victory in West Germany

September 12, 1991

After over a year of war, NATO won a major victory when Soviet-led troops fighting in (West) Germany were forced to surrender. The Soviets also lost their foothold in the Americas with the surrenders of Cuba and Nicaragua as well as the total withdrawal of troops from the region. With the surrender of Cuba to U.S. occupation, the Cuban troops that were fighting in the ongoing conflicts in South Africa and Zaire were forced to pull out which effectively prolonged both conflicts. With Warsaw Pact casualties 3,000,000+ compared to NATO casualties 200,000+, there is no denying that NATO has come out on top and that the Soviet Union is no longer capable of engaging a major campaign outside its borders relying solely on conventional means. Should NATO take offensive actions against the Warsaw Pact, a conventional victory is an almost certainty provided that the Soviets don't decide to resort to their strategic arsenal. However even if no offensive action is taken, NATO has already achieved victor status.

With U.S. military assistance, Israel began a ten-day campaign throughout the Middle East. During the campaign, contract assassin Jason Bourne was hired in secret by the U.S. President to eliminate Saddam Hussein. The campaign concluded with Syria, Jordan, Iraq, and Kuwait under Israeli military occupation. Unfortunately since Imperialist Saudi Arabia is rated as "Cooperation", any attempt to continue the campaign further WILL (not probably) result in my Secretary of Defense tendering his resignation. As a result the unfriendly countries throughout the rest of the Arabian Peninsula are out of Israel's reach for now.

NATO Victory in West Germany
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Military Occupations
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Assassinations
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Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: GentlemanRaptor on October 07, 2016, 10:17:53 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/a1iaZjt.gif)
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: EuchreJack on October 09, 2016, 06:31:34 pm
We don't want the world going nuclear, so I'm going to calculate that as long as we avoid invading Soviet soil, they won't uncap the nukes.

Hm, maybe instead of invading the whole Warsaw Pact, which might be seen as an attempt to invade the USSR, just taking East Germany and a couple of the more prosperous European counties?  The remainder of the Warsaw Pact might just break up on their own.
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: Tok'ra Operative on October 10, 2016, 11:27:18 am
Soviet Storm Rising (Let's Play Update - NATO Defeats Warsaw Pact)

September 19, 1991

Just one week after the Warsaw Pact had failed in taking over (West) Germany, Combined NATO Forces have overrun the Warsaw Pact countries throughout Eastern Europe. The Reunification of Germany is complete and the Soviet Union has lost their Warsaw Pact allies to NATO occupation. The Soviet Union has been demoted to "Minor Power" status and is most definitely in no position to threaten NATO again for years perhaps even decades. It is highly likely that the fighting in Africa will not be ending anytime soon; since the countries being attacked are Centralist and Imperialist, chances are the U.S. won't risk further loss of life to get involved in "bad guy versus bad guy" conflicts.

NATO Victories
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Military Occupations
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Post-Warsaw Pact
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African Conflicts
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Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: EuchreJack on October 10, 2016, 07:09:32 pm
I don't like nukes, and China is becoming a threat.  Take the money and run?
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: Tok'ra Operative on October 11, 2016, 02:59:15 pm
I don't like nukes, and China is becoming a threat.  Take the money and run?
The possibility of a nuclear conflict has been significantly reduced. An armistice has ended active combat between NATO and the Soviet Union. At the moment I am focusing primarily on raising the peace levels of my allies though I am also taking the opportunity to help my allies takeover a few Centralist countries. Once I reach the start of 1992, I intend to put together yet another scenario which will depict the Chinese-led Nationalists as the new bad guy alliance with the Soviet-led Communists being a secondary concern.

Soviet Storm Rising (CRISIS ALERT!)

December 2, 1991

Nationalist China is preparing to launch a surgical strike against Socialist France. Neither country is really on friendly terms with the United States so it is almost pointless to get involved militarily and risk a Fourth World War so soon after winning the Third. However since both parties involved are nuclear powers, it is possible however unlikely that this one surgical strike might trigger a French nuclear response. If that happened, China would almost certainly launch a nuclear retaliatory strike against France which would result in great loss of life throughout Western Europe. In that event, America would have little choice but to retaliate in kind against China.

1991 Sino-French Crisis
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Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: Iituem on October 12, 2016, 06:47:00 am
Economic Sanctions could be a classical middle of the road action.  Doesn't directly involve us yet, but might discourage further action.
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: GentlemanRaptor on October 12, 2016, 04:30:56 pm
I'm down for some sanctioning action.
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: Tok'ra Operative on October 12, 2016, 05:09:48 pm
I'm down for some sanctioning action.
I've already made the sanctioning threat and China went ahead with the strike anyways. Fortunately France didn't retaliate with anything more then a statement of condemnation. The primary objectives I face are restoring the peace, helping Israel deal with the Centralists, and deciding on the fate of Imperialist Cyprus. I will probably also make good on my threat and restrict trade with China; trade relations with the Soviets might be upgraded from "closed" to "restricted" as a gesture of good faith and in the honor of the upcoming peace treaty.
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: EuchreJack on October 14, 2016, 08:58:29 pm
You should be doing what the US is doing in real life: Become best buddies with China's neighbors.

I think crippling China's economy is the best long-term method.

And your poll regarding German takeover of France is wrong: The Germany tried to take over France prior to WW1.
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: Tok'ra Operative on October 14, 2016, 09:04:14 pm
You should be doing what the US is doing in real life: Become best buddies with China's neighbors.

I think crippling China's economy is the best long-term method.

And your poll regarding German takeover of France is wrong: The Germany tried to take over France prior to WW1.
I was referring to the number of times that Germany actually took Paris, the first two being the Franco-Prussian War and World War II.

Edit: However you're right and I have already edited the poll regarding German takeover of France.
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: Tok'ra Operative on October 15, 2016, 06:18:10 am
Soviet Storm Rising (Let's Play Update)

January 1, 1992

The world is a very different place. While the Soviet Union managed to survive into 1992 and avoid breaking apart, their recent defeat at the hands of NATO have reduced them to a third rate power. The Warsaw Pact is history, the Soviet military is a shadow of its former self, and Communism has become a secondary concern. NATO and Soviet leaders signed a peace treaty on New Year's Day, formally ending the Third World War. China has taken the Soviet Union's place as America's primary opponent and by extension Nationalism has replaced Communism as the primary bad guy ideology. Current sentiment with Socialist France is just as bad as with Nationalist China. Many NATO countries, particularly Germany, remain very bitter toward France for abandoning the NATO alliance in favor of a non-aggression pact with the Soviet Union shortly before the outbreak of World War III. Many even went as far as to compare the actions of France to the actions of 1940's Francoist Spain and called for action to be taken against Paris ranging from embargoes to military attack.

World Evaluation & Budget View
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Bad Guy Countries
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World Status Maps
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Military Occupations 1
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Military Occupations 2
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Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: NRDL on October 15, 2016, 06:22:35 am
Social outcry's linked to condemnations and stuff right?  Spam China with that. 
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: Tok'ra Operative on October 17, 2016, 06:57:33 pm
Social outcry's linked to condemnations and stuff right?  Spam China with that.
Yeah...too soon to risk another global conflict. Besides China hasn't really done anything except assassinate the Soviet leader and surgical strike France, both of whom are our enemies in the current Let's Play. In my opinion, France is more of a threat then China at the moment.
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: NRDL on October 17, 2016, 07:00:51 pm
Is it due to their nuke arsenal?  I don't see them being very capable in a conventional military confrontation.
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: Tok'ra Operative on October 17, 2016, 08:26:30 pm
Is it due to their nuke arsenal?  I don't see them being very capable in a conventional military confrontation.
France could respond to another Chinese surgical strike with nuclear force which would force the Chinese to respond in kind against France. My nearby allies would suffer great loss of life if that were to happen. Yes I'd be forced to nuke China for that but at the same time I'd have to hold France responsible for launching first and invade them.
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: George_Chickens on October 17, 2016, 11:05:45 pm
Soviet Storm Rising's finally out? That's amazing! It's also good to see France being the true bad guy of Shadow President once again.
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: Tok'ra Operative on October 18, 2016, 07:00:47 am
Soviet Storm Rising's finally out? That's amazing! It's also good to see France being the true bad guy of Shadow President once again.
I may be releasing a sequel scenario in which France and Germany are at war; it will likely be set on June 1, 1992 however I might decide on a later year.
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: Knave on October 19, 2016, 10:33:04 am
Man, I didn't think it was possible to be at war with the soviet union without a nuclear winter popping off!

Shadow President is always one of those games I love reading about and wish I had more time to dedicate to really learning. Wish there was a modern equivalent.
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: Tok'ra Operative on October 19, 2016, 09:21:40 pm
Man, I didn't think it was possible to be at war with the soviet union without a nuclear winter popping off!

Shadow President is always one of those games I love reading about and wish I had more time to dedicate to really learning. Wish there was a modern equivalent.
Bringing down Soviet ambition certainly helps. A few dozen surgical strikes could do the trick...just as long as their threat on the last surgical strike wasn't a nuclear strike AND their ambition was lowered in that last strike, then retaliation should be avoided. Of course obviously very risky but then again so is successfully defending Germany while the Soviets are "Ruthless". Any ruthless country that loses a conventional battle tends to launch a limited nuclear strike...even the U.S. in such a case tends to launch whether the player likes it or not so keeping an eye on America's ambition is a must.
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: George_Chickens on October 20, 2016, 12:34:01 am
Man, I didn't think it was possible to be at war with the soviet union without a nuclear winter popping off!

Shadow President is always one of those games I love reading about and wish I had more time to dedicate to really learning. Wish there was a modern equivalent.

There's really nothing that gives you so much power but so much abstraction, as though the world is more than just numbers and AI. Victoria 2 comes close, but it's a totally different style of game.

I've made a website (http://www.shadowpresident.ga) for the easy access of mods. It's heavily under construction, but I'd like to get some feedback. I'd also really appreciate if someone could send the contact email a message, so I can see if I've set it up right.
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: Tok'ra Operative on November 02, 2016, 04:17:57 am
Soviet Storm Rising (Let's Play Update)

March 8, 1992

The Hardliners have finally lost their hold over the Soviet government in the aftermath of an internal coup. Mikhail Gorbachev has been reinstated as President of the Soviet Union after having lived in exile in Siberia since his overthrow in '89. Soviet ideology has shifted from Communism over to Democratic Socialism and President Gorbachev is meeting with republic leaders to sign the New Union Treaty. With their primary foreign benefactor gone, the remaining Communist countries are now vulnerable to attack. America's goal now is to attempt to open a diplomatic dialogue with the Soviet Union and convince them to to temporarily join the Team Alliance for the remainder of 1992

March '92 Coup (USSR)
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Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: GentlemanRaptor on November 08, 2016, 10:17:57 am
Any news on an update?
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: Tok'ra Operative on November 08, 2016, 12:47:01 pm
Soviet Storm Rising (Let's Play Update)

June 1, 1992 - Two Years Later

The Second Cold War between Capitalist U.S.A. and Nationalist China thus far remains "cold" with no major sign of open hostilities. The Union of Soviet Sovereign Republics under President Gorbachev has become more free society under the ideology of Democratic Socialism with the Communist monopoly on the central government becoming a thing of the past; Angola has followed their ally's example. Democratic Socialism has also become the ruling ideology in India which has officially cost China their most powerful ally as well as ending nearly two years of alignment. Israel, with U.S. aid, has managed to conquer a number of additional countries throughout the Middle East including Iran. Angola and Zaire remain at war and the conflict is nearing its second year; President Bush is considering the deployment of U.S. troops to aid Angola against Zaire to force the latter's unconditional surrender since the former is now a free country and the conflict has been going on far too long.

World Map Stats
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Additional Land Holdings
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Angolan-Zairean War
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Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: NukingEnrichesSoil on January 23, 2017, 03:04:28 am
I have been enjoying this scenario, its hard to find anything relating to shadow president modification on the web. It has gone smooth minus a few bugs. I was wondering if you still had the Korean and Post Apoc. scenarios, the original links are dead.
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: George_Chickens on January 29, 2017, 10:24:34 pm
I have been enjoying this scenario, its hard to find anything relating to shadow president modification on the web. It has gone smooth minus a few bugs. I was wondering if you still had the Korean and Post Apoc. scenarios, the original links are dead.

I'm afraid Experiment is gone for some reason. I really hope he comes back. However, I have the mods! I'll upload them soon. I'm missing one of the Korean Conflicts, sadly.
Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: Lenzar on February 27, 2017, 07:10:42 am
I've made a website (http://www.shadowpresident.ga) for the easy access of mods. It's heavily under construction, but I'd like to get some feedback. I'd also really appreciate if someone could send the contact email a message, so I can see if I've set it up right.

The download link seems to be broken. :(

Title: Re: Let's Play Shadow President (Reboot)
Post by: Tok'ra Operative on May 03, 2017, 06:12:08 pm
Restoration
Title: Let's Play Shadow President (Restoration)
Post by: Tok'ra Operative on June 04, 2019, 01:56:00 am
Restoration
Title: Let's Play Shadow President (Closed)
Post by: Tok'ra Operative on May 12, 2022, 11:10:57 pm
New Let's Play Shadow President thread: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=182049.0