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Dwarf Fortress => DF General Discussion => Topic started by: Caprealis on June 15, 2012, 02:38:00 pm

Title: Easy ways to cause war?..
Post by: Caprealis on June 15, 2012, 02:38:00 pm
It seems like no matter how many times I kill all the elfs but one, or seize stuff from the Humans.. ect..
They never declare war, And come back next year to trade..

Is this supposed to take a long time?..

And out of the many years I have played DF.. this still has never happened to me. Even after worldGen!

Suggestions? ideas?..
Title: Re: Easy ways to cause war?..
Post by: 10ebbor10 on June 15, 2012, 02:49:58 pm
For the elves, try trading wood. I heard this would upset them more then jsut killing them. Another option might be to give elves a diplomat, as they will try to impose tree cutting quota.
Title: Re: Easy ways to cause war?..
Post by: Caprealis on June 15, 2012, 02:52:19 pm
I was trying to avoid using hack.. But seeing that there is no update for 34.11 yet, Ill start doing that..
Title: Re: Easy ways to cause war?..
Post by: WaffleEggnog on June 15, 2012, 03:10:34 pm
Pfft..... war.... lol..... who needs war? Its more fun killing unsuspecting merchants every year.
Title: Re: Easy ways to cause war?..
Post by: Caprealis on June 15, 2012, 03:22:59 pm
I want more things to kill though..

:P For more fun.
Title: Re: Easy ways to cause war?..
Post by: Loud Whispers on June 15, 2012, 03:25:35 pm
Yeah, you'll be better off modding diplomats in or just using DFhack to add diplomats in. Then kill the diplomats.
Title: Re: Easy ways to cause war?..
Post by: Azated on June 15, 2012, 08:19:45 pm
Those elven bowman are a pain in the neck to fight. Many dwarves shall die for the cause!

I usually just trade them wooden barrels, wait till they get all pissy, they drop a bridge on their dirty little heads. I don't even care about taking their stuff, elven items are horrible anyway.
Title: Re: Easy ways to cause war?..
Post by: Corai on June 15, 2012, 08:23:19 pm
Those elven bowman are a pain in the neck to fight. Many dwarves shall die for the cause!

I usually just trade them wooden barrels, wait till they get all pissy, they drop a bridge on their dirty little heads. I don't even care about taking their stuff, elven items are horrible anyway.


But there cloth! There cloth is dyed! Am I the only one who's entire industry revolves around elven cloth?


...Well I could grow it myself...
Title: Re: Easy ways to cause war?..
Post by: Azated on June 15, 2012, 09:09:37 pm
Those elven bowman are a pain in the neck to fight. Many dwarves shall die for the cause!

I usually just trade them wooden barrels, wait till they get all pissy, they drop a bridge on their dirty little heads. I don't even care about taking their stuff, elven items are horrible anyway.


But there cloth! There cloth is dyed! Am I the only one who's entire industry revolves around elven cloth?


...Well I could grow it myself...

Plump helmets and pig tails, the only crops you'll ever need.
Title: Re: Easy ways to cause war?..
Post by: Corai on June 15, 2012, 09:11:43 pm
Those elven bowman are a pain in the neck to fight. Many dwarves shall die for the cause!

I usually just trade them wooden barrels, wait till they get all pissy, they drop a bridge on their dirty little heads. I don't even care about taking their stuff, elven items are horrible anyway.


But there cloth! There cloth is dyed! Am I the only one who's entire industry revolves around elven cloth?


...Well I could grow it myself...

Plump helmets and pig tails, the only crops you'll ever need.

I dont play as dwarves. Humans or kobolds. So yeah. :D


To cause war, fixdiplomat using dfhack then murder every diplomat. Or for humans, there caravan.
Title: Re: Easy ways to cause war?..
Post by: peskyninja on June 16, 2012, 05:58:41 am
For humans, use the fixmerchants command.
Title: Re: Easy ways to cause war?..
Post by: Loud Whispers on June 16, 2012, 06:05:48 am
Plump helmets and pig tails, the only crops you'll ever need.

I would disagree. Running a cloth industry entirely on pig tails is nigh impossible during winter and spring.

So there are two other crop options needed to fill this niche;

Rope reeds, and Giant Cave Spider.
Title: Re: Easy ways to cause war?..
Post by: GreatWyrmGold on June 16, 2012, 08:43:23 am
Giant cave spiders are crops?
...That gives me an idea for something to mod...
Title: Re: Easy ways to cause war?..
Post by: Loud Whispers on June 16, 2012, 12:17:13 pm
Giant cave spiders are crops?

You can sew crops
You can sew silk

Spiders are crops to me
Title: Re: Easy ways to cause war?..
Post by: CyberUrist on June 16, 2012, 10:43:57 pm
Giant cave spiders are crops?

You can sew crops
You can sew silk

Spiders are crops to me

Imma try and sig that.
Title: Re: Easy ways to cause war?..
Post by: Nyan Thousand on June 17, 2012, 02:23:55 am
I don't understand. If your clothing industry is run by anything other than elves, then you're doing something wrong.
Title: Re: Easy ways to cause war?..
Post by: Corai on June 17, 2012, 02:29:59 am
I don't understand. If your clothing industry is run by anything other than elves, then you're doing something wrong.

So I am doing something right?


DAMNIT!
Title: Re: Easy ways to cause war?..
Post by: Naryar on June 17, 2012, 03:11:43 am
Urist McGrower cancels Pickup Item : Interrupted by Grown Giant Cave Spider x6
Title: Re: Easy ways to cause war?..
Post by: BinaryBeast1010011010 on June 17, 2012, 04:22:05 am
Thanks guys, I was gettint bored and hesitated to create a new fort, now I'm going to, just to really try the clothing, glass and ceramic industry and cause war with everyone else but dwarves. In front of a necro tower of course.
Title: Re: Easy ways to cause war?..
Post by: Corai on June 17, 2012, 05:24:33 am
Thanks guys, I was gettint bored and hesitated to create a new fort, now I'm going to, just to really try the clothing, glass and ceramic industry and cause war with everyone else but dwarves. In front of a necro tower of course.

Give kobolds towns and [SIEGE], along with goblin siege triggers, so you get sieged by the GIANTASS ARMIES of kobolds.
Title: Re: Easy ways to cause war?..
Post by: Man In Zero G on June 17, 2012, 11:37:21 am
Plump helmets and pig tails, the only crops you'll ever need.

I would disagree. Running a cloth industry entirely on pig tails is nigh impossible during winter and spring.

So there are two other crop options needed to fill this niche;

Rope reeds, and Giant Cave Spider.

Why aren't your dwarfs wearing leather? Why aren't you brewing the pig tails? Booze is far more important than cloth.
Title: Re: Easy ways to cause war?..
Post by: Loud Whispers on June 17, 2012, 04:16:58 pm
Why aren't your dwarfs wearing leather? Why aren't you brewing the pig tails? Booze is far more important than cloth.
I have 700 pig tails. 1800 rope reeds.
700 units of Dwarven ale. 1600 River spirits.
It's easy to do process, weave and brew crops all at the same time.
I have very few animals.
I need leather for quivers.
Animal skins have a habit of trying to eat people.

Any one of those reasons.
Title: Re: Easy ways to cause war?..
Post by: jellsprout on June 17, 2012, 04:33:20 pm
My clothing industry is run by goblins. Crops are for booze.
Title: Re: Easy ways to cause war?..
Post by: Klitri on June 17, 2012, 07:11:13 pm
Urist McGrower cancels Pickup Item : Interrupted by Grown Giant Cave Spider x6
Sigged :PP