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Title: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Delamore on May 11, 2008, 06:38:00 pm
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Stranded II is a first person island survival game created by Unreal Software.
The game is about a male character with a British accent who has been washed up on an island after a boat accident, To survive he must create shelter,
find water, find and cook food and avoid the islands wild life who would like to cause him harm.
Stranded II uses an odd type of creation system, to for example a hammer, you select a branch and a rock in your inventory and press the "Combine" button,
giving you a list of objects you can create using those two items while this is simple for a hammer, you have no hint towards lots of later on objects
and some may take as many as 4 different things to create!


Adventure Mode
First up is a cutscene showing how you ended up on the island.
You get a diary entry the moment you get to the island talking about you being stuck there, pressing V at any time brings up the diary.
Your diary is a handy tool, every time you come across something new it will come up and talk about it, giving you hints on how to use the new thing to survive.
So now we're on a beach, you're surrounded by remains of your ship, floating barrels, crates and logs.
Lets begin by walking up to a crate or barrel and pressing the left mouse button, this will attack it with your hands, after a while it will break leaving an item behind.
To pick up items press E or press the right mouse button.
Press C to bring up your inventory, for more information check the Inventory section.
Break up all the crates and barrels you see around the area and pick up whats inside them, then explore the island.
I'll leave the rest to you, as Stranded II has a real discovery feeling the first time you create or find something, and by me telling you about them
I take away the best part of the game from you, just remember to read your diary offen and save offen


Inventory
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From left to right:
Use Uses the selected item, the same effect as if you held the item in your hand and pressed E.
Eat Eats the selected item, some items will cause damage such as rocks, but who the fuck eats rocks anyway?
Hold Wields the selected item, pressing E with an item wielded will use it, such as cooking meat, pressing the left mouse button will attack with it.
Combine Attempts to combine all the selected items, if it is a success it will show a list of possible items to create.
Drop Depending on the number below the cross, it drops a certain amount of the selected object.


Random Islands
Using the random island option from the main menu, you can create an island using some options, the main thing is size and how hard it is.
On a small island you'll still have quite a bit of moving area and see resources and animals more closely packed together.
On a medium island you'll have more than enough room and see animals at what seems like a good distance apart.
On a large island you'll never see half of it, most resources and animals are spread out, I've never seen a good reason to use this setting.

Easy has no animals which would cause you harm, you spawn with lots of suplys, this is basically a sand box.
Medium will see lion spawning stones around the island and a few random sharks which do not respawn, more tightly packed depending on size.
Hard you will see lots of piranha and sharks around the island and raptor nests on land.

Map Editor
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The map editor allows you to create your own island or archipelago, while the land shaper is a pain in the ass, I've seen a few nicely done maps out there.
I'll expand this section once I go back and use the map editor a bit more.


Modding
Stranded II can be modded to an extent, while some huge things can not be done, there is a good mod that adds alot to the game but it is currently only in German.
There's not alot I can really say here so explore the files your self.


Bugs
I'll update this as more come up.

1: All adventure mode diary entrys refusing to display, any discovery entrys on random islands do not show up either.

Spoilers
Most of the fun in Stranded II is discovery of how to create things and how things work, so keep spoilers in spoiler tags with obvious warnings to
what is within them.


Stranded II Download

Screenshots

(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m16/Delamore_/Fort.jpg)


Also sorry for recreating a thread we already had, I was planning to make this for other forums so I figured I may aswell finish it and post it here aswell.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Keiseth on May 11, 2008, 09:55:00 pm
Oh, you got me. I *love* survival games* like this, Unreal World being a personal favorite*. This looks very interesting, and apparently free, too? Always a plus. I'll give it a shot; thanks much, Delamore.

(*That or "Survival Kids" for the old gameboy. Same concept as this, basically.)

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Rabek Jeris on May 12, 2008, 10:58:00 am
I found this a few weeks ago... it ended up being the first game in a long, long time that I would play for an entire day off. I had a blast loading up a random map and building a little self-sustaining fortress to keep me safe from the lions. This is an excellent game, in my mind... though, I am probably biased, as I also love survival games, and there is a saddening lack of them in existance. Speaking of, does anyone else know of any games like this?
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Kagus on May 12, 2008, 11:01:00 am
That looks like a lot of fun, but this poor little laptop would cry for mercy if I tried to run it.  That, and the evil inherent in this touchpad would plot against me, waiting to strike at the worst possible time.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Delamore on May 12, 2008, 11:33:00 am
quote:
Originally posted by Rabek Jeris:
Speaking of, does anyone else know of any games like this?

Notrium has the whole survival aspect and such.
Wurmonline might be seen as survival for the first few days, but later on its bad.
Unreal World is a roguelike survival game.
Sadly there are not  a whole lot of good quality survival games, and even then non with multiplayer.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Keiseth on May 12, 2008, 03:13:00 pm
Aw, that's a shame, Kagus. The system requirements are really low, but the touchpad would be terrible.

Looks very interesting. I built a shelter on a hill, managed to fish and catch some food, as well. I like how many different items can be made, and the cleverness in making them. It challenges you to think surprisingly more than I thought it would.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Cthulhu on May 12, 2008, 04:42:00 pm
Tried Notrium.  I'm not sure which of these I prefer.  Notrium is more realistic, and has graphics I prefer(I can't stand low-quality 3d graphics.  Graphics must be excellent, 2d, or nonexistent).  The main problem is a lack of on-screen warnings when a stat is low, if you're too busy trying to find something, you'll just spontaneously die; and a lack of randomization.  It doesn't look like the planet is very big, and it seems to have a storyline, which I don't like in this kind of game.  I'd rather sit there and try to survive without worrying about some kind of escape.

Stranded has the randomization/world size thing down, the islands I've seen are indeterminably large.  The problem is a lack of realism(It takes 35 sticks to build a torch, wtf?), extremely annoying difficulty(Easy has no enemies and plenty of health, Medium has so many enemies it's impossible to find a place to camp, and Hard has so many enemies you can't even walk, and when you jump into the water to get away, two or three sharks grab you.)  It also has the aforementioned graphical suckiness.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Helmaroc on May 12, 2008, 05:47:00 pm
Stranded (II) - Got bored after 15 mins.

Notrium - Always get killed by chasing aliens.

Unreal World - The best of the three, bought it.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Cthulhu on May 12, 2008, 06:32:00 pm
I could never get into Unreal World, for some reason.

The little aliens are easy to kill in Notrium, but you need a ranged weapon for the big ones.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Keiseth on May 12, 2008, 06:43:00 pm
From what I read, there are a lot of neat things you can do/make in Stranded... taming animals, for one. I tried Notrium: probably the only Sci-Fi survival game I've ever seen. Finished the tutorial and I like the combat and weather/temperature. I've had Unreal World for a while; it's a good game, but certain things tick me off to no end (within miles and miles of wilderness, you may find ... one squirrel; if you're lucky!) But I love the spiritual/mystical elements of it, the sound, and the style.

Thanks a lot for the links! There goes the time I was going to spend studying, hehe.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Cthulhu on May 12, 2008, 07:15:00 pm
I had another go at Stranded.  The Adventure mode is infinitely better, the random island generator isn't very good and mostly produces low, jagged noise.  The adventure island is the perfect size, with a good variation in supplies, and not so many enemies I can't survive, but not too few to get supplies either.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Keiseth on May 12, 2008, 11:31:00 pm
If you get tired of adventure mode, make a map / find a map yourself, to get around the random map issue. I've only been playing Adventure.

Scared to death I'm going to chop all the trees down and murder myself.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Delamore on May 13, 2008, 03:22:00 am
quote:
Originally posted by Keiseth:
<STRONG>If you get tired of adventure mode, make a map / find a map yourself, to get around the random map issue. I've only been playing Adventure.

Scared to death I'm going to chop all the trees down and murder myself.</STRONG>



If you check your character skills, get click planting and you can see when you can plant trees.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Sean Mirrsen on May 13, 2008, 11:17:00 am
The thing that scares me most is that it's all Blitz3D...  just how slow does it run?
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 13, 2008, 11:31:00 am
For PIII 256 RAM 64Mb Gforce MX 400 it runs smoothly. With such level of graphics...
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Sean Mirrsen on May 13, 2008, 12:17:00 pm
I don't think B3D can output ANY graphics better than those...  No, well, it probably can, even software-based games have nice models sometimes, but from what I know, any sort of complex game will be slow on B3D... I don't have much experience with it though.  :)
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Keiseth on May 13, 2008, 02:48:00 pm
Not fond of the concept of Blitz, but I'm surprised to see that it runs *very* well despite my low system specs (P4 1.4ghz, 512mb PC133 SDRAM, GeForce FX 5500) -- for something like Blitz3D it's remarkably quick. I didn't mess with the settings from the default, however.

It sort of reminds me of Noctis, in a way. Rather peaceful and serene (Adventure mode; hostile animals on islands are another story). Though some of the items you make require a ridiculous amount of parts, and some of them require far too few (I can work iron with a stone hammer, and no fire? O_o)

Also, I took out a lion with a pick axe, without getting hit. The Urist Effect, clearly. If this game had deformable terrain (I haven't tried to make shovel) it would be great; strike the earth!

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 13, 2008, 02:57:00 pm
Unfortunately this game doesn't have any terraforming. You just get rocks/worms/pebbles from the ground.
The only thing that caught my attention is that it's a 1st person game with low graphics but a lot of moddable details and ability to make complex things.

I'd like to have something similar in Notrium; that game is great but I missed ability to build something more complex in infrastructure than a tower defence and a force shield.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: SHAD0Wdump on May 13, 2008, 03:11:00 pm
Might see if I can get a crack at the modding aspect and get some phasers in here.  :p
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Sean Mirrsen on May 13, 2008, 04:07:00 pm
When I was modding Total Annihilation, I made a strange game-like thing (in Dark Basic) with no point to it, where you were driving the most powerful tank of the upcoming mod, and squishing/shooting the least powerful units of the other side in the mod. You were nigh indestructable, the enemies were many, fun but not much point.

Now I was recently watching Animal Planet, and caught a word "Ele-vision"...

Imagine a scene - peaceful forest, trees, a mountain nearby, some kind of fort....  beardy little figures run out yelling, run at you...  and on your HUD there are two ears, two tusks, and a trunk.  :)
Plus a blinking sign "Ele-Vision" in a corner.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Boksi on May 13, 2008, 04:20:00 pm
For some reason, I am completely unable to sow any grains. I take them in my hand, but neither the left nor right mouse button works even if I'm looking directly down at my invisible toes...
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Cthulhu on May 13, 2008, 04:24:00 pm
When I first landed on the island, I had a lot of fun scouting it out, setting up a little home, peacefully fishing and crushing the skulls of parrots with my pickaxe.  Now it's day 19, I need two more logs to build my raft, and I"m ready to get out of here.(Please, if it's not possible to leave via raft, don't spoil it by telling me)
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 13, 2008, 04:25:00 pm
Press the use button ([E] by default).


P.S. Chtulhu was faster than me, but not with an answer.
I've answered the crops question.

[ May 13, 2008: Message edited by: Deon ]

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Boksi on May 13, 2008, 04:25:00 pm
Bah, leaving already? I'm going to build an abode to see if I can't get access to a proper boat first, y'know.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Cthulhu on May 13, 2008, 04:27:00 pm
I'm building a proper boat.  It's a raft with a sail.  You have no idea how many monkeys I had to massacre to make the sail.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Boksi on May 13, 2008, 04:35:00 pm
Monkeys are annoying. The only animals I can hit with reasonable accuracy are lions, so I hunt them. Also, a raft may be a proper boat, but I can still be an ignorant <censored> and insist on having at least a bit of shelter so I can sleep and such.

I still don't know how to sow grains.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 13, 2008, 04:37:00 pm
Isn't my method working?
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Boksi on May 13, 2008, 04:48:00 pm
...I was writing the reply to Ctulhu when you posted that. It works, and I've got a lovely field of grain growing in the hillside near my hut now. Back to building the fences and torches and the Kiwi breeding...
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Cthulhu on May 13, 2008, 04:57:00 pm
I have a hut, a wood storage, and a regular storage.  The boat is finished, and I'm just waiting out the current rainstorm before I leave.  Provided the rain is gone tomorrow, I will have spent exactly three in-game weeks alone on an island.

Pretty good for an awkward teenager with no survival skills whatsoever.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 13, 2008, 05:00:00 pm
And with a mighty pickaxe =).
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Cthulhu on May 13, 2008, 05:21:00 pm
I have now been on the raft for four hours.  The Island has long since passed out of view, and I begin to worry that I didn't bring enough supplies.

I think I will turn back, gather as much food as possible, and try again tomorrow.

It's 4 PM now, and I left at 7 AM.  No sign of the island at all, just a blank expanse, and the sky is turning orange.  It'll be night soon.  I have nowhere near enough food to last more than a day, and no water at all.
It was stupid to leave without preparation, I was so desperate to get away I didn't even think of gathering food and water, and now I'm going to pay with my life.

[ May 13, 2008: Message edited by: Cthulhu ]

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 13, 2008, 05:29:00 pm
Spoiler!!!

[ May 13, 2008: Message edited by: Deon ]

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Cthulhu on May 13, 2008, 05:33:00 pm
It's true, the ocean plays tricks on your eyes, and I spent the entire day going the wrong way, I probably rode right past the island.

I realized I may have a tiny chance at survival.  I brought my fishing rod, and if I can catch a few fish, the food and water could last me long enough to find either rescue or the island.


EDIT:  THE ISLAND!!  I found it!!  Fonzi be praised!

[ May 13, 2008: Message edited by: Cthulhu ]

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: wallish on May 13, 2008, 06:22:00 pm
Can anyone tell me how I get cord?  I just can't figure it out!  Also, I've gotten a piece of flint before from, I think, an iron ore spot.  But I'm not sure.  Can flint be found at any stone location, and if so, is there a way to increase your chances of getting it (I've only got the one).
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Cthulhu on May 13, 2008, 06:25:00 pm
Cord is made by selecting cotton in your inventory and clicking E.

I've never found flint from hitting rocks, I just wander around to find it.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Delamore on May 13, 2008, 07:24:00 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Cthulhu:
<STRONG>It's true, the ocean plays tricks on your eyes, and I spent the entire day going the wrong way, I probably rode right past the island.

I realized I may have a tiny chance at survival.  I brought my fishing rod, and if I can catch a few fish, the food and water could last me long enough to find either rescue or the island.


EDIT:  THE ISLAND!!  I found it!!  Fonzi be praised!

[ May 13, 2008: Message edited by: Cthulhu ]</STRONG>


SPOILER


You found an island? what the hell?

SPOILER

Edit
I've created an IRC channel on the irc.worldirc.org IRC network.
#Stranded
If you are stuck somewhere or want help with a bug, you can ask there.

[ May 13, 2008: Message edited by: Delamore ]

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Greiger on May 13, 2008, 08:07:00 pm
Interesting game.  I had a shelter, campfire, wood storage and small general storage box and finally figured out how to make an axe and started working on a hut.  

I went to sleep for a night.

Feuer! Feuer!

What the heck does that mean?  Ah! whats that noise?
*Turns around, sees flaming shelter.*
...Oh.  Thats what feuer means.
*shelter burns to the ground*
...Well fudge.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Delamore on May 13, 2008, 08:36:00 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Greiger:
<STRONG>Interesting game.  I had a shelter, campfire, wood storage and small general storage box and finally figured out how to make an axe and started working on a hut.  

I went to sleep for a night.

Feuer! Feuer!

What the heck does that mean?  Ah! whats that noise?
*Turns around, sees flaming shelter.*
...Oh.  Thats what feuer means.
*shelter burns to the ground*
...Well fudge.</STRONG>



Found out they added that into the latest update, had no idea what it was.
"Oh hey my storage is on fire"
<Storage>
"Oh fuck my hut and fence is on fire now"
<Hut>
"Oh fuck my palisades and forest are on fire"
Fuck fire, seriously.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Cthulhu on May 13, 2008, 08:43:00 pm
That's why you keep your fire away from your wood.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Greiger on May 13, 2008, 09:06:00 pm
Perhaps I should move my wood storage then.  Its about the same distance away.  

Or I could just let it burn, I'm sure I'll have a metric ton of branches by the time I collect all the stuff I need to finish my hut.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Cthulhu on May 13, 2008, 09:12:00 pm
I died, and it was the stupidest death ever.  I got killed by a lion, after my boat(Containing a week's supply of food, and all kinds of gear I thought I might need) teleported into the sky, and I fell off of it, losing all of my stuff.  I then went to make a net, and the lion started chasing me.  I had my fishing pole out, and I tried to grab a machete from my storage.  I accidentally right-clicked though, so I started fishing.  In the middle of the island.  With a lion next to me.

Dead.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Kagus on May 13, 2008, 11:31:00 pm
Well, the boat made it to safety.  That's half of the requirements.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: SHAD0Wdump on May 14, 2008, 01:32:00 am
You guys are on the first stage right?

Cuz if thats the case,What the hells takin' you so long,I just got the game today and I'm off to stage 2!

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Cthulhu on May 14, 2008, 06:51:00 am
Didn't know there was a stage 2.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: subject name here on May 14, 2008, 11:11:00 am
Is this the one where you have to do crazy things later in the game like grow marijuana for a hippy or is that the first game?
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 14, 2008, 11:31:00 am
There's 4 islands in the adventure mode.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: SHAD0Wdump on May 14, 2008, 02:34:00 pm
Yup so hop toit you panzies!
More items on da whey...
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Boksi on May 14, 2008, 02:41:00 pm
I'm still on the first island. I'm eking out a comfortable living, in fact:

(http://www.freewebs.com/bokaormur/strandedii1.PNG)

I'd also rather like to be able to mine out that iron ore. I have no actual tools more sophisticated than a bow and arrow. I've been pulling down the trees I need with my bare hands...

If I go, I'll bring along branches. You can never have enough branches. Leaves and vines are a dime a dozen, but I'm in continual short supply of branches. I'd also bring along a metric ton of food, seeing as that's not a problem to produce.

But I'm a perfectionist, so I'll finish my fence first. And probably more too. I'll probably have 200 planting before this island is over.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Cthulhu on May 14, 2008, 02:45:00 pm
I think I'm going to restart, on a random or player-made island.  I accidentally summoned a pirate, and it completely ruined my suspension of disbelief.  I found my island very peaceful until the giant pirate showed up and never left, and I couldn't focus while he was there.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: SHAD0Wdump on May 14, 2008, 02:55:00 pm
I actually tryed to machete him to death,he ended up spewing blood constantly.
So I ended up with a BLEEDING pirate,on MY island.
Decided to stop whacking him long enough to talk to him,little bit of side tracking and I'm off to stage 2.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Cthulhu on May 14, 2008, 02:59:00 pm
I did the same thing, I beat him all day with a machete.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Boksi on May 14, 2008, 03:29:00 pm
Insects ate my crops ;_;

I only saved a few sheafs and grains.

...

But I still have an abundance of berries, fish, lions, monkeys and a Kiwi Breeding.

Nevertheless, I've decided to move on instead. I'll go butcher lions for a few days for the skins, then chop down a bunch of trees for the logs.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Rabek Jeris on May 14, 2008, 03:54:00 pm
More than ten plots of grain in one area summons a swarm of locusts of a size not seen since the Ten Plagues. On the adventure mode islands, they eat your crops... on random islands, they seem not to. But it's still freaking annoying. The random islands aren't really that bad... it's just a matter of finding a decent spot. I managed to get enough supplies for a couple spears on a hard island, killed the lion near a few good resources, then hammered his spawn point into oblivion so that I could start building... it all just takes some thinking. And a little bit of luck.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Greiger on May 14, 2008, 07:36:00 pm
The locusts still eat yer crops in random island mode, they did it to me.

But why nuke the lion stone?  I just planted 100 some defence towers around it and just head over there once daily for my ration of lion meat and skins.   :D

Sometimes it gets lucky and hides between a couple rocks though.  If it does that I just pop it a couple times with my Arbalest.

EDIT:
My Home.  Pictures taken from on top of my hut.  Random, big island, normal endless.
(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/7492/screen00005kg6.th.bmp)
(http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/1139/screen00002pm7.th.bmp)
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/536/screen00003ka9.th.bmp)
(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7498/screen00004tv2.th.bmp)
Note the treeless wasteland in all directions.

[ May 14, 2008: Message edited by: Greiger ]

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Impending Doom on May 14, 2008, 09:00:00 pm
Finally gotten myself a stable little home on a small island separated from the mainland by just a few feet. I've been trying to build a fence around my encampment to keep out the wildlife, and I've run into a little snag: How exactly do you rotate your constructions?
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Greiger on May 14, 2008, 09:13:00 pm
Mousewheel did it for me.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Impending Doom on May 14, 2008, 09:16:00 pm
Crap, I'm using my laptop. Oh well, just means I'll have to steal the mouse from the upstairs computer.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: SHAD0Wdump on May 14, 2008, 09:24:00 pm
I've encountered a big problem...
I kinda left my fishing pole on stage one...
I can't get a new one on stage 2 and desperately need one...

To hell with it!This island is small insignificant and overall BORING.
Time for the editor and random island options.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Rabek Jeris on May 15, 2008, 09:32:00 am
On hard, there are enough lions that you pretty much have to destroy at least one lion stone x.X;

At least, it was that way on my island...

Let's see if I can't get some screens of my little fort from my normal island... I managed to get all the plants growing in it except cacao and plums. Cacao will, apparently, show up in the random crates every so often... so I've got my fingers crossed.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Jack A T on May 15, 2008, 11:04:00 am
I use the cheats to become invincible and wield an awesome sword, and then I kill everything I see on some random maps.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Delamore on May 15, 2008, 11:15:00 am
quote:
Originally posted by Rabek Jeris:
<STRONG>On hard, there are enough lions that you pretty much have to destroy at least one lion stone x.X;

At least, it was that way on my island...

Let's see if I can't get some screens of my little fort from my normal island... I managed to get all the plants growing in it except cacao and plums. Cacao will, apparently, show up in the random crates every so often... so I've got my fingers crossed.</STRONG>


Doesn't hard have raptors and no lions?

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 15, 2008, 12:31:00 pm
If only it had a multiplayer...
I dream about Island Troll Tribes mod for this =).
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: GreyMario on May 15, 2008, 12:50:00 pm
I'm not sure, but they tried to put some multiplayer aspects in... just hit Enter in-game. :V
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 15, 2008, 12:57:00 pm
I think it simulates Robinson talking to himself =). And maybe a monkey.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: GreyMario on May 15, 2008, 01:57:00 pm
I just shot a poor widdle scarlet macaw out of the sky.

Games where you can be an evil bastard and get away with it are fun.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 15, 2008, 03:07:00 pm
Are you good enough to live here?
Just a humble fort on the 1st island. Hovewer it took a lot of time.
(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9748/fort1or0.png)
(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9117/fort2nz8.png)
(http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4038/fort3yp3.png)
(http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/8708/fort4ut7.png)

With all needed features (crop farm, berries, well, hut, storage, tree house to shoot over the palisade, hammack and even a pier (made from large storage).

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: GreyMario on May 15, 2008, 04:51:00 pm
I was lucky enough to have a box of grapes drift ashore.

Anyone know how to open that one crate on the first island near the turtles?

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Boksi on May 15, 2008, 04:56:00 pm
There's certainly no lock to pick on it.

And Deon, that must've taken some time to build. I only built fences. That must've taken dozens of logs, if not a hundred!

I assume you have enough skill to plant trees?

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Cthulhu on May 15, 2008, 05:01:00 pm
quote:
Originally posted by GreyMario:
<STRONG>I was lucky enough to have a box of grapes drift ashore.

Anyone know how to open that one crate on the first island near the turtles?</STRONG>


SPOILER!

You find a lockpick after you build your first permanent dwelling(Hut or Treehouse)

As for trees to build palisades, look around him, he's clearcut the entire visible portion of the island.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 15, 2008, 05:15:00 pm
I'm trying to deal with clawmonkeys. They're hard =).
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: GreyMario on May 15, 2008, 07:24:00 pm
Okay, yeah, how do I tame a parrot?
Or at least catch it?

[ May 15, 2008: Message edited by: GreyMario ]

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Cthulhu on May 15, 2008, 08:55:00 pm
With a machete.

Loljk, I never caught one, try a net(Branch+10 cord)

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: GreyMario on May 15, 2008, 10:47:00 pm
I got that and the other two islands done. Now how do I find bananas? :V
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Rabek Jeris on May 15, 2008, 11:07:00 pm
They're up at the top of long, straight palm trees.

[Spoiler] If you're on the island I'm thinking, most of the banana trees are over by the watchtowers.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 16, 2008, 02:23:00 am
You catch parrots the same way you catch butterflies (thanks for tip about weight reduction! I've caught almost every butterfly!

I passed 2nd island very fast - it has a lot of food. The only question - where  to find more nuggets for a golden bow, I have a big problem with carnivores on the 3rd island.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Rabek Jeris on May 16, 2008, 10:56:00 am
[Spoiler... again] There's a golden bow on the island already. It's at the top of a hill/mountain near where you enter the level. There's golden shiny sparkly stuff coming from the mountain, so it's not hard to find. Other than that, I don't think there's any gold ore spots on that island. I dealt with that one by staying in the water and circling the island to find the stuff.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: GreyMario on May 16, 2008, 11:50:00 am
There's one behind that cave...

but it's still better to bring an Arbalest and 500 bolts. Which is what I did.

Island 4 is also easier to handle with the Arbalest.

[ May 16, 2008: Message edited by: GreyMario ]

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 16, 2008, 12:45:00 pm
A GOlden Bow shoots faster and does more damage btw.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: GreyMario on May 16, 2008, 01:04:00 pm
Actually, I had a lot of trouble slicing and dicing raptors with the golden bow.

I'd packed the Arbalest from way before so I used up about three hundred bolts and kicked my lumbering up to about 160. Tree murder!

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 16, 2008, 01:29:00 pm
Lol for stranded elves =).
My 3d island Ultimate Defence! (What a perfect stones!)
(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/817/palisade1lr5.png)
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Delamore on May 16, 2008, 01:54:00 pm
quote:
Originally posted by GreyMario:
<STRONG>There's one behind that cave...

but it's still better to bring an Arbalest and 500 bolts. Which is what I did.

Island 4 is also easier to handle with the Arbalest.

[ May 16, 2008: Message edited by: GreyMario ]</STRONG>



Arbalest is the most broken item in the game, completely overpowered and makes any island boringly easy.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: GreyMario on May 16, 2008, 02:08:00 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Delamore:
<STRONG>completely overpowered</STRONG>

Marksdwarves are overpowered too.


At any rate, though, I'm making a custom map using a random map as a base.

[ May 16, 2008: Message edited by: GreyMario ]

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 16, 2008, 04:58:00 pm
A center of my map:
A high volcano (it's far that's why it isn't very monumental) with obsidian and natives.

I haven't touched scripts yet.
 (http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/889/volcanogf5.png)  
StrandedII Map Competition maybe?

[ May 16, 2008: Message edited by: Deon ]

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Delamore on May 16, 2008, 05:28:00 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Deon:
StrandedII Map Competition maybe?

[ May 16, 2008: Message edited by: Deon ][/QB]



I'm in.
Also this thread is on Facepunchstudios and Somethingawful also, so it could be a nice contest.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 16, 2008, 06:43:00 pm
I've found that the scripts are very VERY easy! And C-like. Wow. You can make awesome stories in this game.
Also all models are b3d!
The game is a heaven for modders.
For now I'm tweaking native people =).
Damn it, it's hard to make a map and scripts together. You don't know what to do first :-).
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Delamore on May 16, 2008, 07:17:00 pm
The triggers to show diary entrys aren't showing up on any mode and blood rush isn't going away on adventure, so even if I made a map I can't test it.
Anyone else experienced these problems?
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: GreyMario on May 16, 2008, 07:27:00 pm
Hrm?

All you need for a diary entry is such:

code:
on:trigger{add "!1Sample Diary Entry";
add "Simple enough.";
add "";
add "The above is a newline.";
stoptrigger [ID];}

Use that in the code for an instant-active area trigger set to detect 1x Player. Walk into the area and you has a diary entry.


Or is that not the problem? :V

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 16, 2008, 07:27:00 pm
You may want to make some medical items to prevent your blood loss of fractures (which slow you down).

It's strange, I have no problems with diary...
 (http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/940/tribe2nz4.png)  
 (http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2776/bozx6.png)  
 (http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9744/shroomskv2.png)

Maybe if you show me your script I could help you.

[ May 16, 2008: Message edited by: Deon ]

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: GreyMario on May 16, 2008, 07:30:00 pm
Ninja'd!

By the way, I want to make something that'll show a list of what I could give to a person in order to recieve a specific item. How I does that?

(I'm referring to that menu that works somewhat like the combinations menu. The professor that comes up sometimes on the Random Islands does this.)

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 16, 2008, 07:36:00 pm
Do you mean THIS kind of thing?
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8840/tradeoy0.png)
Use:

sell id, quantity
buy id, quantity

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: GreyMario on May 16, 2008, 07:38:00 pm
Ja, that. Thanks.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Delamore on May 16, 2008, 07:52:00 pm
The problem isn't creating entrys, its the fact that ALL entrys already in the game do not work, such as when I play adventure mode the hammer entry shows, but no others from such as going close to the wheat, and bloodrush never goes away.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: GreyMario on May 16, 2008, 07:59:00 pm
Delamore: Odd. Reinstall, perhaps?

Deon: Okay, can you provide the script you used to do that? I've already got a dialogue set up, just how do I get to the part where I can trade with the professor?

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Delamore on May 16, 2008, 08:12:00 pm
quote:
Originally posted by GreyMario:
<STRONG>Delamore: Odd. Reinstall, perhaps?

Deon: Okay, can you provide the script you used to do that? I've already got a dialogue set up, just how do I get to the part where I can trade with the professor?</STRONG>


I currently have 3 copies downloaded, no matter how many times I do it nothing changes.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 16, 2008, 10:32:00 pm
Delamore:
Do you mean that you can't play the original adventure mode?


My trading script (ignore text after <- it's comment don't type it):
You should type it in your txt file and then change it's extention to .s2s
Put it anywhere in ../mods/Stranded II folder (I use /mod/scripts custom folder) and remember the path for future use.

code:

//~nativebo <- name of the script in he file
page=start
title=Bo <- title on top of popup window.
text=start
Hello! <-text the creature tells
I'm Bo!
I breed fish in my backyard.
What do you want?
text=end
button=trade,I want to get some fish. <- buttons (button=parameter,text)
button=action:close,Nothing, bye!

page=trade <- action summoned by button with "trade" parameter
title=Trade with Bo <- title on top of popup window
### Shell -> Fish <-comment for yourself
trade=start <-start of 1 trading block
sell=102,1 <-item to sell, quantity
buy=89,1 <-item to get for it, quantity
trade=end <- end of 1 trading block

### Pearl -> Fish
trade=start
sell=108,1
buy=89,3
trade=end


Then you type the following text in the "script" box of the creature (you can save this in .txt file and "Import" in editor; also note that the path to file is the path from ../mods/Stranded II/ directory to file with the just written ^ script):

code:

on:use{
dialogue "start", "mod/scripts/volcano_village_people.s2s","nativebo"
}

[ May 16, 2008: Message edited by: Deon ]

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: GreyMario on May 16, 2008, 10:38:00 pm
Copypasta and thankies.  :D
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 16, 2008, 10:42:00 pm
Don't forget to remove the "<- text" if you copy-paste it.
If you want to know the item numbers, search the "sys" folder, it has "objects.inf" file in it.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 16, 2008, 10:49:00 pm
I've finished 1/4 of my island's places of interest  (not by quantity, I plan more; I've basically covered about 1/4 of my island with special features) =). You've already seen the volcano (from distance though).
add to this the mushroom circle
   (http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5271/shroomscircleeu1.png)    
village
   (http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/179/villagevr0.png)    
Lone oasis
   (http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1133/oasisfq8.png)    
Grand Canyon
   (http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4307/canyonoy2.png)    
Black Marsh
   (http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3383/swampuo0.png)    

and a few more funny places.
I've used a few custom createdlandscape items and I desperately need new creatres (I'll make them by myself maybe, but definitely not yet).
The main "problem" i that I use a huge island for better realism and want to make every place unique.  Thus it takes a lot of time, and even now I'm not satisfied enough with already created places becase it's hard to add small details when you make something HUGE.

[ May 16, 2008: Message edited by: Deon ]

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: GreyMario on May 16, 2008, 11:32:00 pm
See, this is why I used the smallest medium map.

It's easier to work with and can still be fun to play.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Delamore on May 16, 2008, 11:34:00 pm
The exact problem is that no triggers work on me.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 17, 2008, 12:29:00 am
Do you mean that when you spawn of the 1st island you have no diary dialogues popping up?
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 17, 2008, 12:39:00 am
quote:
Originally posted by Cthulhu:
<STRONG>Stranded has the randomization/world size thing down, the islands I've seen are indeterminably large.  The problem is a lack of realism(It takes 35 sticks to build a torch, wtf?), extremely annoying difficulty(Easy has no enemies and plenty of health, Medium has so many enemies it's impossible to find a place to camp, and Hard has so many enemies you can't even walk, and when you jump into the water to get away, two or three sharks grab you.)  It also has the aforementioned graphical suckiness.</STRONG>

The random islands are bad, but this is because the game uses very simple algorythms for this.
You could make a perfect world creator, but it'd take a VAGON OF VAGONS of your scripting time.

But I like in this game: 1) easy scripting, you can literally make any item/behaviour/script; 2) easy modding.
The things I ignore: bad graphics, the landscapes are nice though, it's just about models. As I said, you can spend a lot of time making  nice models with nice animations and putting them in, the game supports it. The creator just skipped this step.
The things I hate: 255 limit. Yeah, such a stupid thing. ID cant be more than 255. It means maximum 256 items/objects/units... Weird. The last thing I expected.

About "35 branches in a torch", in my current map I'm making I already changed a lot of things, like 3 branches + 1 rope + 1 resin for a torch.

[ May 17, 2008: Message edited by: Deon ]

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Delamore on May 17, 2008, 12:47:00 am
quote:
Originally posted by Deon:
<STRONG>Do you mean that when you spawn of the 1st island you have no diary dialogues popping up?</STRONG>

For example on the first island when you spawn you get a diary, doesn't show.
When you first see wheat, you get a diary, doesn't show.
When you make a hammer you get a diary, DOES SHOW.
Survival guide? None of them show either.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 17, 2008, 08:48:00 am
This is a new creature I've added (officially 2 but they are just reskinned versions of 1 model)
Black and red ants.
With full animations.
Here you see the corpse of a black ant and a red ant movning by a bit further.
    (http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9962/antdm4.png)    

I've made an alpha version of my map, it has all main features plus randomly generated dung... I mean jungle -) full of acid plants and carnivore plants. I plan to add raptors there.
By the way I've increased the speed and damage of lions so they move faster than man, and they dwell in big savanna on my island, thus the lionhunt became dangerous and thrilling =).

P.S. The map is ready but I'm rehauling the buildings/adding new items and also I want to find nice models of steppe/savanna herbivore animals for hunt. Thus the release is postponed.

This is a "color" map of my island.
   (http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2787/mapcolorbiomesxo2.png)    

There's a volcano in the center, and different biomes around it. The white is a kind of Alaska (damn I spoiled resources placement =)). The brown line from the center to the edge actually is a color of the bottom of the freshwater river.
P.S. The island is round intentionally =).

[ May 17, 2008: Message edited by: Deon ]

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Cthulhu on May 17, 2008, 09:08:00 am
Want.

How did you make the models?  As in, what program did you use?

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 17, 2008, 09:28:00 am
I took them from free models and converted from 3ds to b3d.
The author is Psionic, I've dwelled in 1 forum with him
Here's another his awesome model: all greet the giant cave spider! Now DF travels to Stranded =).
P.S. He'll be a megabeast on my island.
 (http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4559/gcspideros1.png)  
It's a pity that Stranded supports only 1 animation for attack and 1 for movement (but 3 for idleness WTF).
This big bad guys has 4 different attacks and can even jump... not in Stranded.
But he's still awesome there (if you compare this to a basic lion model %)).
Now I'm trying to find a nice lion model to replace the freak from vanilla.

[ May 17, 2008: Message edited by: Deon ]

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Greiger on May 17, 2008, 10:34:00 am
*sound of jaw hitting floor*
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 17, 2008, 10:39:00 am
By the way who told that Stranded has bad graphics? Graphics are nice for me, the models are bad.
But it can be changed.
I'm trying to find a lion, gazelle/horse/zebra and human barbarian (for natives) models with animations. I don't have a vagon of time to make animations for models I have (it could be nice... GCS animations twitch when he walks, he could be much better).
Anyway, that's the model I use for natives while I can't find an appropriate one:
Ninja'd!   :D
 (http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4976/ninjadwv9.png)


P.S. Ouch I forgot! F***k the pirannahs! There'll be a mighty carp! I mean, a ton of carps, a river infested with carps which will try to pull you underwater!..

[ May 17, 2008: Message edited by: Deon ]

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 17, 2008, 11:25:00 am
The kind of jungle you can't pass easily (and there're daedly raptors roaming too... But they are rare, the jungle are hard by themselves).
(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9171/jungleli7.png)


P.S. No more raptors.
The crawlers rule the jungle =)
(http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/1614/crawlerff3.png)

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Cthulhu on May 17, 2008, 11:59:00 am
Looks awesome, when are you putting this up for download?
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Delamore on May 17, 2008, 12:43:00 pm
That's some quality work Deon, finish it up and I'll put it in all the threads for you.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Skyrage on May 17, 2008, 01:24:00 pm
Hmm, are they still updating Stranded 2 by any chance? I have the game installed from last year or so but I've not really played it for ages. Was great fun nevertheless. Should perhaps fire it up again, along with Notrium and URW...despite having being ripped off on URW I'm kinda missing it enough to consider paying for it again.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 17, 2008, 01:41:00 pm
I think I will add more critters and release alpha.38c =)
Then I will spend some time to write some useful scripts and add some "quests" to obtain unique items for unique combinations.
I have a lot of ideas and some places done (like that circle of mushrooms or tainted crystal rock in the forest) but I haven't managed to make scripts for it yet.
Now I want to add somemore monsters so alpha will be hunting-oriented, but later I want to add alchemy and smelting (when I find a reasonable models for an anvil and a furnace). I just hate this "gold-iron-crystal" rock system after DF with a lot of minerals. At least I want to add rock salt to make salt powder for advanced cooking and some valuable metals like copper and silver.
If someone could help me with cooking/smelting part (just scripts), I'd be very glad.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Delamore on May 17, 2008, 01:49:00 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Deon:
<STRONG>I think I will add more critters and release alpha.38c =)
Then I will spend some time to write some useful scripts and add some "quests" to obtain unique items for unique combinations.
I have a lot of ideas and some places done (like that circle of mushrooms or tainted crystal rock in the forest) but I haven't managed to make scripts for it yet.
Now I want to add somemore monsters so alpha will be hunting-oriented, but later I want to add alchemy and smelting (when I find a reasonable models for an anvil and a furnace). I just hate this "gold-iron-crystal" rock system after DF with a lot of minerals. At least I want to add rock salt to make salt powder for advanced cooking and some valuable metals like copper and silver.
If someone could help me with cooking/smelting part (just scripts), I'd be very glad.</STRONG>

Just try not to go overboard, alot of people avoid another mod out there because it adds alot of crap like explosives, guns and swords.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Impending Doom on May 17, 2008, 02:01:00 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Delamore:
<STRONG>
Just try not to go overboard, alot of people avoid another mod out there because it adds alot of crap like explosives, guns and swords.</STRONG>

Mod? I got those with the base game package. I don't use them, mind you.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Cthulhu on May 17, 2008, 02:11:00 pm
Yeah, that's part of the reason Stranded doesn't fully own.  I'd rather it be a more realistic simulation.  Pulling pure iron out of rocks with your bare hands and forging it into a machete with a hammer you made by fusing a rock to a stick doesn't strike me as realistic.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 17, 2008, 02:55:00 pm
As I said, I'll add smelting in and will make the iron to be only extractable by pick (I can do it now but I'd like you to explore the world first and give me some suggestions on flavour).
Also any quest ideas are welcome.

About "overloading", my final goal IS to overload, but I want to add a lot of realism and skip stupid things.
I.E. you can get a pickaxe via the quest/find randomly or you can find ore pieces but you can't mine ore with hands.
Further you need a smelter to transform the ore into bar/weapon, and I'm not sure is it easily code-able to replace usual "fire" requirement with actual furnace building requirement.

I've already changed the well "building" - you do not build it with hammer and stones and profit of clear water, you build just a carcass and then dig near you well about 20 times to get the water which simulates that you remove the mud from well and dig actual well hole.
To build a torch on the land you don't need like 30 sticks... You need just a bark plus a "torch" item which is made near fire from stick.

[ May 17, 2008: Message edited by: Deon ]

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 17, 2008, 03:32:00 pm
I hope you think the same way as I do...
And I think that this construction suits for making weapons better than a campfire.
Did I already "overload" the game? -) Or should I countinue?
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8770/furnacetw6.png)

So, any help withanimated animal/human models?

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Cthulhu on May 17, 2008, 03:46:00 pm
Oh, it's a smelter... I thought you made a blood well and then set a hammer and a rock on it.

If you really wanted to bloat it, you could put silver in the game, and a kite with a key, and use it to create electricity.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 17, 2008, 04:26:00 pm
Pfft... A number of avaliable buildings is hardcoded... WTF again =). I already used to the idea of bad things in unexpected places about this game.

If allows you to add new buildings without errors, it just doesn't allow you to have more than a basic number of buildings+vehicles in the building menu.
There're 2 solutions:
1) To find where it is written if it's not in exe and change that number.
2) Use a "template" building which will transform to buildings you want via dialogue scripts (possible nut a bit tricky and with cons.).

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Delamore on May 17, 2008, 04:37:00 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Deon:
<STRONG>I hope you think the same way as I do...
And I think that this construction suits for making weapons better than a campfire.
Did I already "overload" the game? -) Or should I countinue?
 (http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8770/furnacetw6.png)  

So, any help withanimated animal/human models?</STRONG>



I like the forge idea, I tried adding glass at one point.
But its when you get into unbalanced stuff like guns and swords that it really makes the game unfun, like the crossbow in the game already.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 17, 2008, 04:55:00 pm
If you make the crossbow to have reloading time like 5 seconds, it's not that unbalanced.
Also sjungle crawlers move fast behind trees and kill you even faster, they just tear you apart. So only lucky jumping and shooting can save you against one or maximum two.

It's the question of gameplay imbalance, not items. You can always give special pros an cons for every kind of item and this will make the game smoother.
Also I don't think you can make guns by your hands that easily on wild island so I have just 1 pistol (for now) as a trophy in special place (and it looks like it should be there... and it didn't help it's owner so you'de better decide if you want it or not).

I don't have all the island of "hardcore", there're quiet places but also there're deadly places such as my randomly-generated jungle which take about 1 sec of computer time when you sleep to regenerate again and I like to try to passstealthily through them (not to run, it's usually death  :)).

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Delamore on May 17, 2008, 06:36:00 pm
Anyone who wants to discuss modding/mapping or anything Stranded related, I've chosen just to use one IRC channel for the 3 forums rather than 3.
New network: irc.synirc.com  New Channel: #Stranded
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: martinuzz on May 17, 2008, 06:49:00 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Rabek Jeris:
<STRONG>I found this a few weeks ago... it ended up being the first game in a long, long time that I would play for an entire day off. I had a blast loading up a random map and building a little self-sustaining fortress to keep me safe from the lions. This is an excellent game, in my mind... though, I am probably biased, as I also love survival games, and there is a saddening lack of them in existance. Speaking of, does anyone else know of any games like this?</STRONG>

There is also Survival:The Ultimate Challenge by Activision Value
Not bad.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Delamore on May 17, 2008, 07:14:00 pm
quote:
Originally posted by martinuzz:
<STRONG>

There is also Survival:The Ultimate Challenge by Activision Value
Not bad.</STRONG>



We need more information on this.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 18, 2008, 08:10:00 am
I experimentd a bit and ended with this (menu at the furnace)
(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9485/smithingyo4.png)
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 18, 2008, 10:07:00 am
Here's Island Quest 0.4
It doesn't require the vanilla game, so you can just download and unpack it.
It lacks a lot of features I'm going to implement but is has base terrain and feature placement.
I indicatd many landmarks (not all though, i.e. I forgot to show the mushroom circle and some other nice features) and resources on map for easier test-play. It's not supposed to be that easy in final version, where you'll need to find a way to understand natives and you will know the map from village elder only; also there's already a map which will be supposed to be avaliable but you should kill a monster to get it. And resources won't be marked either.
For now when you sleep and wake up in the morning don't forge to destroy crates, they have useful items and some starter food.
Also I've made a way to "cheat" - if you dive into the water near your crash site you'll see 3 caves near the coast underwater and they will have a map and an arbalest with 30 bolts. Arbalest may flow up on the water surface sometimes, I didn't fix it yet =).  Also bolts are hard to see, but they are definitely there (you'll see a bolt end in the sand).
Try it, tell me your suggestions and test new smithing system (you still can make a hammer from stone+stick, but other weapons should be smithed at the furnace, also you should use "iron ore" near the furnace to get the "iron bar").
You'll have a free iron bar and a free iron ore from crate. I suggest you to make a pickaxe and a spade when you have a chance. You'll need a spade to dig the wells and find some roots/mushrooms (good source of food) and you'll use a pickaxeto mine ore (now you can't get the ore without pickaxe except random "iron ore" items which are very rare).
Also note that it's vry hard to get a rock without pickaxe now. I wanted to add "pain" when you hit the rock, but didn't do it because it's too "hardcore".
Also note that palms now can provide you not only with leaves but with bark too.
I've modded other things like fishing (in vanilla with fishing>500 you stopped gaining starfishes/seaweed but now I made it that with fishing>500 you get your guaranteed fish like before PLUS random chance to get clam/starfish/seaweed).

Play, test, suggest.
LINK

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Fenrir on May 18, 2008, 10:45:00 am
*appears*

It's a shame that the documentation describing what all the script functions do is in German.

*vanishes*

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Cthulhu on May 18, 2008, 11:16:00 am
(http://lolthulhu.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/bill-lurking_fear.jpg)

You've always been here, haven't you?  You never left...

[ May 18, 2008: Message edited by: Cthulhu ]

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 18, 2008, 11:41:00 am
You can use something like google translator so it's not that hard.

P.S. I was on irc channel and got this:

quote:

*** Greymario cheated, got here using a self-made link

What was that?

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Cthulhu on May 18, 2008, 12:03:00 pm
This does the trick nicely for translation, but doesn't do syntax, or the more obscure words, so there's still quite a bit of guesswork.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Boksi on May 18, 2008, 12:28:00 pm
Anyone have an idea on how to make the various types of mushrooms spawn near trees when the player sleeps?

I'm trying to make a bit of a marsh map. With lots of fungus.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: GreyMario on May 18, 2008, 01:21:00 pm
Use a spawncontrol info with the All X Days set to 1 and Instant Active set to 1 as well.

Deon: holy crap how do I access the map testing feature

[ May 18, 2008: Message edited by: GreyMario ]

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 18, 2008, 01:21:00 pm
Use spawn controller. You can see my map there're some custom scripts and there's a jungle which spawns after the first night and before there's just a marsh.
(I made this "random" jungle because it makes really nice cluttered biome with a lot of features randomized so I don't think that it was necessary to be placed by hand).
Also things respawn not after you slept but at 0:00 AM, I use this for many objects in my map (you arrive at 23:55).
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: beorn080 on May 18, 2008, 04:55:00 pm
Another survival game is called Lost in Blue for the DS. Similar to this in that you make items by using other items but far easier. The only problem is that while billed as a survival game, about halfway thru survival becomes almost trivial once you start stockpiling jerky and it becomes a puzzle game to get off the island. The worst of the puzzles is a maze that changes every time you go thru it. Optimally you only need to go through it three times I think but plan on wasting alot of time going back and forth. Still it was an interesting game.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: martinuzz on May 18, 2008, 06:59:00 pm
Aw forget I mentioned Survival: The Ultimate challenge.
Same idea as Stranded, bit more realistic in resource gathering/ staying healthy.
But Stranded is just WAAAAYYY better and more complex.
Wow this game is cool.
I had the same experience as another poster here. 1 full day of being absorbed into the game.
Actually have been looking quite some time for a nice survival game.
Reached the 2nd island pretty fast, got chased into the water by claw monkeys and was eaten by sharks.
New try. Now I'll try to stay a bit longer on the first island.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: SHAD0Wdump on May 18, 2008, 07:16:00 pm
In that random jungle,what if you want to make a treehouse?

[ May 18, 2008: Message edited by: SHAD0Wdump ]

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 18, 2008, 07:22:00 pm
If select an appropriate type of tree you'll make it.
I also made a new version with lighter, pirannahs in the river and a bridge, and a new "carpentry" with knife (the same system as fore smithing with furnace). Plus other small things like apple trees, outrigger (boat) etc.
(http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/9018/outriggeryx5.png)
I'll release it when it'll have more content.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Future on May 19, 2008, 07:33:00 am
After looking through the files i found that multiplayer could be turned on but after i set up a server i wasnt able to connect to it from my bros pc, i was trying it on deon's map (good map btw) but i couldn't figure out if it was our network because it's playing up atm or the actual multiplayer option. The reason i was trying this was because i thought it would be good to play with other people rather than on my own all the time. Anyone have any ideas?

P.S. i did check it as a multiplayer map.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 19, 2008, 10:37:00 am
1) Thanks for your approval, I spent some valuable time to do it faster (while I have uni session... weird, I'd better learnt something) and I will upgrade it (well, I already do some tweaks, write new scripts and add new objects despite of my problems with university but it will take much more time to add all the things I want and there'll be more scripts/events/quests beside the planned because I often improvise put something new during the creation process if I find it appropriate.
2) Sadly but there's no multiplayer possibility for this engine for now.
It should be re-written for multiplayer and the developers don't do this.
I think it's just an "easter egg" for those who like to look in raw files.

There's a modification "Stranded" for Garry's Mod 10 Half-Life and it's under heavy development by some enthusiastic people, but I can't check it because I don't have a possibility to spend 10$ for it now (I'd better donate it to Toady if I had a possibility, but I'm a family man + student + gamer %)).

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Future on May 19, 2008, 01:43:00 pm
It's a shame that there is no multiplayer because it would have been cool to play with other players. I also didn't like the models in this game which is why im trying to teach myself blender, if i get good with it then i might actually be able to make some models for stranded.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 19, 2008, 02:47:00 pm
I can find a lot of models and can done some by myself (I made fantasy creatures for other indie games so I have some basic skills) but the problem for me  now are animations. I can spend some time and learn it, because I know it's not hard and how it works (skeleton/vertex animations on timescale was something that we made in max for university in 1st course) but I don't have a desire to do so. You know, if you want to make a good model it should take a lot of time, much more than to find a free appropriate model and use it if the author doesn't mind about it.
But I cannot find a good free animated lion (I've found some in model base for about 400-500$ for a model!) and also I have just a ninja model for humans which was made by psionic who appeared to be very generous in comparison to other modellers. I can reskin it and change some animations later, but for now I have just a fragMotion on my computer and I didn't try to learn it yet. I can just transform/retexture/merge models (as I did with furnace and native woman).
So I ended for now with vanilla weird natives and added a native woman model (it's basically made from native man model by the creators of the EXTENDED mod, I just reshaped it a bit and added some details to texture). Well, it's possible for now to make some better human models from existing ones, but it'll still take some time and I'd better add new scripts/textures/systems to the existing map, I can add models anytime later, especially if I will find it somewhere.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Grantyman on May 19, 2008, 08:33:00 pm
Can I ask a question? How in the world do you make a spade or axe?
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 19, 2008, 08:35:00 pm
In this mod? Use the furnace. It shows all smithing tasks.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: GreyMario on May 19, 2008, 08:41:00 pm
"How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Pop?"
--"Man, I'd do ANYTHING for one of those. Unfortunately, all I can get my hands on are chocolate chip cookies and bread."
"Oh, right, same here. I forgot for a moment that we were stranded on an island."
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Future on May 20, 2008, 08:11:00 am
How do you make a furnace btw, ive been sitting around eating hemp for a couple of days (in game) because i couldnt figure it out.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 20, 2008, 07:03:00 pm
Build -> production
It tells you all the ingredients.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Future on May 21, 2008, 07:29:00 am
Im guessing that once you have built a shelter or tent then its supposed to unlock the furnace right? because ive built both and i still dont have any other options. (dont mean to be a pain btw)
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 21, 2008, 07:58:00 am
Are you sure you can't build everything from the start?
It means that I uploaded the version without unlocking script... In the current version I made everything avaliable at start. If it's not, then maybe I checked the wrong version when uploaded the file to rapidshare...
Do the villagers have wifes in their houses?

I will reupload this map with a few new features then. The last version doesn't have a lot of things because I'm passing my uni session now. It has fletchery (use knife you found on the beach) for arrows, apple trees and a new vehicle "outrigger" which is a fast boat made from bamboo+wood+leather.

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Future on May 21, 2008, 08:28:00 am
no i couldn't build anything but the hammer, then the shelter and tent once i made the hammer, after that there was nothing else. also the villagers dont have wives, also dont have the knife lol.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 21, 2008, 09:00:00 am
The knife was added later.
Now I've uploaded the last version and I paytested it for possible bugs. I've found some (my) bugs so now it's officially 0.51 =) with fletchery.
You can build a furnace without problems and there's a new boat in "vehicles" section.
Also use the knife you find on the beach in supply crate with right mouse button! while holding it to open the fletchery menu and make some arrows/bolts.
Eagles are balanced to be killed with 1 bolt instead of 2. Happy bird hunt in the canyons =).
Some loot is fixed, i.e. spiders now drop wool on death and scorpions no longer drop poison bottles, they drop poisonous goo now (which can be used to get poison; I will add bottles later so it'll be a bit harder). Ants now drop acidic goo which works as poisonous goo (just for now, later the efect will be changed).


STRANDED 2 ISLAND QUEST custom map
Version 0.51

Download

[ May 21, 2008: Message edited by: Deon ]

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Future on May 21, 2008, 09:09:00 am
Lol thanks for that, hopefully now ill be able to get somewhere also while wandering around i found the biggest spider i have ever seen  :). When you said you were going to add it as a megabeast i thought you were joking, then i ended up being split into two by the beast.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on May 21, 2008, 10:16:00 am
I just want him for a quest, but the questline won't be here until I have more NPC and events (I want some complex and maybe non-linear questline but before that I need a lot of balancing and also there's a lot of stuff scheduled). Also you can find some useful stuff there (a pistol and some things like clock an map near him; they're supposed to be left from another stranded man from your ship; no more spoilers       :) ).

P.S. Beware the fish. Now the river is heavily infested by carps. Joke, pirannahs they are. If you're impatient you can swim through it fast, or you can try to find a bridge, it's the only thing the natives have done (besides the village).

[ May 21, 2008: Message edited by: Deon ]

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Xane on May 27, 2008, 03:06:00 pm
Hey Deon, any chance I could use your new units in my map? I really only want to use the jungle crawler. If not, I'll just up the raptor speed for my map.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Alenth Eneil on May 31, 2008, 05:29:00 pm
Aside from Deon's mod, which I am getting now, what are the critical mods for this game?  I notice many of you are building things tht are not in vanilla(unless there is a new version out that I never heard of).

Also any map recommendations, as random maps do have that tendency to be just a long series of hills.  Or lakes.  Or rivers.

Though I have found some pretty cool areas.

PS: Am I the only one who loves giant maps because I won't really get bored with it?  If I level up a lot and get bored of the surroundings, I can keep the character and get a new experience jsut by going a few miles inland, or around the shore.  I wish that there were more times where it would generate multiple islands for you on one map...

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on June 01, 2008, 03:16:00 pm
Xane, use anything you want.
I don't take a credit for these creatures or items, I just make a map and write some scripts.

Alenth Eneil: this is why I made this map of huge size and with different biomes. I usually play in 1 biome and then move to another.

Sadly I have a uni session now and doesn't have a lot of time to spend on gaming...
I'd like to add i.e. new buildings and skills (like axemanship and marksman), but it will wait for a while.
I feel pity that the original game has just 4 skills, the skill can be made for ANY action (like in Ultima Online for example); well, we have to do it by ourselves.

[ June 01, 2008: Message edited by: Deon ]

Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on January 17, 2009, 03:36:09 pm
Bump necrothread etc. :).
Does anybody have a desire to play this game still?

Well, the main question: does anybody have the mod I've made? I wanted to expand it but the computer I was working on was stolen long time ago...
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Projectmayhem on January 17, 2009, 05:58:19 pm
I still play it! It was this thread actually that got me playing it. I thought everyone just forgot about it and stopped making mods for it. It's good to hear you want to continue your mod, it was pretty fun.

But i just deleted your mod when i was cleaning up my computer, sorry i hope someone else still has it so you can continue it again. I will definitely dl it if you do.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Vucar Fikodastesh on January 17, 2009, 06:11:25 pm
Luckily i never delete anything. ;) http://drop.io/pqtvr2f (http://drop.io/pqtvr2f#)

This is a totally awesome mod. I'm glad i was able to help.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: andrea on January 17, 2009, 07:54:45 pm
just downloaded it, seem nice
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: sonerohi on January 17, 2009, 08:11:09 pm
I can't get it to download properly on my Vista. It's telling me that the file is fully downloaded, however when I try to open it, it alternates between two error messages. The first one is that it isnt a valid file, and the second one is that it isn't fully downloaded. This puzzles me extremely since it definitely downloaded, and the file isn't corrupted or anything.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on January 17, 2009, 10:20:16 pm
WAAAGH!!! IT's not lost! I even got drunk becuase I thought that rapidshare killed it... But it's still alive!
From that time I learned how to make 3d objects so I am able to make a handsome of items and machines to pilot. Sadly I have a session but in a week I'm back at modding :).
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on January 17, 2009, 10:22:10 pm
I can't get it to download properly on my Vista. It's telling me that the file is fully downloaded, however when I try to open it, it alternates between two error messages. The first one is that it isnt a valid file, and the second one is that it isn't fully downloaded. This puzzles me extremely since it definitely downloaded, and the file isn't corrupted or anything.
I will try to upload it as zip instead of rar. Let me get  a clear head after the alcohol I drunk today (bad quarrel with a wife... you know, it's not that funny) and I'll try to help you.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Sowelu on January 18, 2009, 12:21:19 am
While my girlfriend was building a massive custom island, my hard drive died.

This game is still worth it.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: ductape on January 18, 2009, 12:39:13 am
I can't get it to download properly on my Vista. It's telling me that the file is fully downloaded, however when I try to open it, it alternates between two error messages. The first one is that it isnt a valid file, and the second one is that it isn't fully downloaded. This puzzles me extremely since it definitely downloaded, and the file isn't corrupted or anything.
I will try to upload it as zip instead of rar. Let me get  a clear head after the alcohol I drunk today (bad quarrel with a wife... you know, it's not that funny) and I'll try to help you.

How many wives do you have?
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on January 18, 2009, 12:56:23 am
Lol, single :). Why do you ask?
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Dragooble on January 18, 2009, 02:55:01 am
um, quick question. in the vanilla game how do you make arrows? i cant seem to figure that out.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: SHAD0Wdump on January 18, 2009, 02:12:07 am
stick-n-feathers

Kill birds for em...

At least that's what I remember... Haven't played in a while.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: andrea on January 18, 2009, 03:43:15 am
i am having some problems in my island... but tehre is one for which i need help. how do i sow grain??
i hold it, i click toward the ground and it says that i have to put it in my hand and use it on the ground.
what do i do?

forget what i said. i managed to do it. my next problem is fishing rod, but i'll  try to do it alone... untill island run out of animals. no more lions spawned

fishing rod = bamboo+ thread + ?
i can't keep fishing with an hammer.

and i need to build mroe things, and then try to find an axe. cutting trees with hammer isn't good.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on January 18, 2009, 07:38:30 am
OK, just make sure you've tried a few normal games before you try to start mine: I have most things in a hardcore way and there're deadly creatures on the island.

If something is not working, try different combinations:
1) Make sure it's in your hand.
2) Click either Mouse1, Mouse2 or "Use" button (E for me).

Mouse1 is usually for attacks and breaking actions (chopping wood, mining rocks for stones and pebbles etc., while mouse 2 is for special item actions i.e. rod fishing, shovel digging and hammer building (and fletching in my mod with a knife) while E is for direct interaction with something before you, i.e. picking up objects, talking to NPC and maybe planting seeds, I don't remember).
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: andrea on January 18, 2009, 09:03:14 am
yes, planting seeds is E. i am not using mods i think, i am using the link on the first post of the first page.

i am playing "adventure". and if i understand it well, i should move away from the island. i have everything ready but.. where do i go? just sail in a random direction?
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on January 18, 2009, 09:14:13 am
No, there's a quest objective if I remember it right. Something related to a pirate treasure.
I find "adventure mode" to be bland, there're much more interesting mods like Kidnap mod, and even mine is better in some aspects. Come on, 20 branches to build a single torch? Bah...
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: andrea on January 18, 2009, 09:17:38 am
quest? pirate?

there is only one box that i can't open, but it is stuck in sand. it seem i'll have to find a way to dig then. all this work on the sailboat wasted :(

ok, digging won't help. i am trying to burn the wooden box... it is locked and "too stable" to destroy. must be something important.

and... i give up on the fishing rod.i have no more ideas. the fish was the last entry on the diary. maybe i have to make a fishing rod before i can go on?
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on January 18, 2009, 09:48:28 am
You should get lockipick if I remember it right.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: andrea on January 18, 2009, 10:11:21 am
lockpick..
it seem i need so much for this first island. well, i'll start sowing again.
and ill build an hut. it seem i'll stay here forever.

meanwhile, i keep tryog to get fishing rod. till then, i'll hnt fishes with melee weapons and i'll eat insects.

edit: do trees regrow? i might run out of logs soon or later
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Boksi on January 18, 2009, 10:15:32 am
Trees don't regrow, but at a certain planter level(200?) you can plant branches so that they'll grow into trees.

Also, fishing rod needs bendable branch + thread.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on January 18, 2009, 10:23:08 am
Just don't eat butterflies. Note that they give you weight reduction.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: beorn080 on January 18, 2009, 10:31:26 am
Some quick tips.

Capture butterflies with the net.

Build the best shelter you can, either the treehouse or the log cabin.

Stock up on bread, and berry juice. Large fried meat is also good.

For story mode, make sure you carry a GOOD weapon with you. Fire arrows are easy to make, and with a long bow have incredible range. Also carry a pair of flint and food with you.

Using a net against a resource does almost no damage to that source while still harvesting the resources involved. Great for bamboo and those short vine only trees.

If your trying to kill time waiting for grain or hemp to grow, pull out your shovel. Using it massively increases your hunger, thirst, and tiredness, and allows you to sleep much sooner then normal. Plus you can find mushrooms and other useful things underground.

Always build any new building that you can. Most have fairly obvious uses, but certain structures aren't obvious but extremely useful.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: andrea on January 18, 2009, 10:51:27 am
wow, i was already doing all that (and i was lucky with butterflies. i found 40 of them all in the same place)

my character found a lockpick when i built the tree house. now i am killing time with my shovel waiting for grain. after i harvest grain, i'll give parrot to pirate so that i can go with him (why, why did i spend so much time building an unuseful sailboat!!)

and.. what is bendable branch??
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Boksi on January 18, 2009, 11:05:50 am
Use branch with water.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on January 18, 2009, 11:06:58 am
For those who want to play my mod: if you're totally lost in combinations, there's "combinations.inf" text file under mods\Stranded II\sys, I tell this because I forgot myself how to make a tent in my mod. Go grab the nearest weapon (since it's still in alpha I let you use arbalest which is underwater near shore, don't miss iron bolts, they are near arbalest but are hard to spot). Just note that arbalest has > 5 sec. reloading time and lions are twice faster than you. So you'd better hide and shoot. Hit'n'run no longer works as before.
Get 10 skins and 10 branches for your first tent. But I'd suggest for all the newcommers to come to the village, you can see it on the map. The elder in the village will show you the position of all metal ores on the island. Also if you've got clam from shore you can trade with civillians with clam.

(http://i40.tinypic.com/2zqzb0o.jpg)

The basic combos:

################# combinations_basic.inf
#
# Bendable Branch (Branch + Water)
# Flour (Grain + Stone)
# Paste (Flour + Water)
# Iron Bar (Iron + Hammer)
# Joint (Hempleaf + Leaf)
# Poison (toxic Fungus + Stone)
# Cacao (Cacaofruit + Stone)
# Branch (Trunk + Matchet)
# Branch (Trunk + Axe)
# Pebbles (Stone + Hammer)
# chocolate paste (Paste + Cacao)
#
################# combinations_potions.inf
#
# Healthpotion (Strong Healherb + Water + Stone)
# HealthPotion (Healherb + Water + Stone)
# HealthPotion (Goldherb + Water + Stone)
# Poison (Bitterroot + Fungus + Water + Stone)
# Wine (Grapes + Stone)
# Juice (Berries + Stone)
# Water (Leaf + Stone)
# Speedpotion (Cacaofruit + Coffee Fruits + Stone)

################# combinations_tools.inf
#
#  Hammer (Stone + Branch)
#  Fishing Rod (Bendable Branch + Cord)
#  Tent (Skin + Branch)
# Net (Cord + Branch)
# Torch ( Wool + Branch)
# <make fire> (Bark + Branch)
# <splint> (Branch + Liana)
# <bind> (Leaf + Liana)
# <bind> (Skin + Liana)


NOTE THAT YOU CAN GET WOOL FROM THE FALLEN MAST! Many people miss it.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: andrea on January 18, 2009, 11:45:13 am
branch + water? wow... i owuld have never thought about that. now i think i can start making arrows. normal ones, dnt know how to make other kinds. but they should still be good. after the first island. will there be any place where i can settle?
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on January 18, 2009, 12:51:42 pm
I think "normal" ones require pebbles for arrowheads.
Also, digging+fishing is a really good combo.

Dig up some worms and fish for... fish. Fried fish is very nutrient and easy obtainable, and you dig for pebbles and mushrooms too.
With these skills >50 you won't starve anywhere near water.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Dragooble on January 18, 2009, 01:04:29 pm
you dot need pebbles for arrowheads i think.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: andrea on January 18, 2009, 02:04:20 pm
wooden arrows don't need pebbles. but arrows does.

i found this on the third island, when i found a bow+arrows.
if i find the one who thought it would be fun to put these things on the third island... (not bow and arrows of course. the kind of animal that is tehre)
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: beorn080 on January 18, 2009, 02:08:38 pm
Stick + Feather = wooden arrow
Pebble + Stick + Feather = arrow
Wool (not cord) + Stick + Feather = Fire arrow
Finally I believe
Poison + Stick + Feather = poison arrow
Poison is I think
Poison mushroom + Stone = poison

Note that if you build defense towers near lion stones and have the arrow retrieval skill from hunting, you can get hundreds of thousands of free wooden arrows. Ok, maybe not that many, but more then you will ever use.

Third Island in adventure mode is meant to be a tree hopping affair IIRC. Get into the trees and avoid confrontation. Bringing fire arrows is very helpful since everything but rocks can burn.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: andrea on January 18, 2009, 02:25:07 pm
you are wrong about poison arrows. i tryed.

the third island... trees you say?
machinegun bow i say.

found a strange bow (goldenbow i think) and 300 normal arrows there :D i just went and started shooting. but i lost everything :( now, i have an hut, and there is a strange old man that i would like to kill. but it is impossible and i need him.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: beorn080 on January 18, 2009, 02:43:40 pm
Oh yes, an interesting note. Fire arrows make great log farming implements if you don't feel like swinging an axe a 50 times a tree. Just find a stand of palm trees and hit each tree with one fire arrow, and about 24-48 "hours" later they will die and leave you a log. Also works great if you want to clear cut an area for garden or kiwi hut purposes.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Neonivek on January 18, 2009, 02:46:03 pm
Oh yes, an interesting note. Fire arrows make great log farming implements if you don't feel like swinging an axe a 50 times a tree. Just find a stand of palm trees and hit each tree with one fire arrow, and about 24-48 "hours" later they will die and leave you a log. Also works great if you want to clear cut an area for garden or kiwi hut purposes.

Wow, now I see the view of Fire being an all-important invention as true!

How else could our ancestors clear cut?
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: andrea on January 18, 2009, 02:57:50 pm
fire... lets see how it works on people  8)
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on January 18, 2009, 03:22:30 pm
Thank you for the info on fire arrows. I'm going to fix it so dead trees drop coal instead.

also I'm going to revamp some stupid things, i.e. a knife which weights more than spade etc.. Also roasted fish and meat (especially fish) should make you want to drink and not decrease the thurst level. I will get to it too.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: sonerohi on January 18, 2009, 05:05:56 pm
Oops! I only read to about page 2 or 3, so I idn't know all about Deon's mod, when I made my post about invalid donwload, etc., I was talking about the 'nilla game.  :-X.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: andrea on January 18, 2009, 05:09:12 pm
never, never sow 40 crops in the same place. bad things happen.
be ready to take your slingshot.

now, lets wait till i have the rbead i need...
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: beorn080 on January 18, 2009, 05:12:29 pm
You can safely farm hemp in massive quantities. Only grain has problems.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on January 18, 2009, 05:14:57 pm
For those who missed it.

Island Quest (still in alpha)
http://drop.io/pqtvr2f#

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

In two words: it revamps the building system (less reagents of some type, more of another... for the sake of a common sense) and adds a LOT and a pretty big island for you to survive, with a few unique features and a HFS.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Fenrir on January 18, 2009, 05:26:23 pm
Those screenshots are amazing. I wish I had that kind of determination.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Dragooble on January 18, 2009, 05:50:15 pm
You can safely farm hemp in massive quantities. Only grain has problems.

yeah im having grain problems. how do you make a profit out of grain? as in end up with more grain than when you started?
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: andrea on January 18, 2009, 05:52:58 pm
sow about 20 grain. wait 3-4 days, harvest. you should get 3 grain per crop.

if you get 2, then wait another day
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: beorn080 on January 18, 2009, 06:35:04 pm
Slowly. Only plant about 10-15 units at a time and wait till its fully grown before harvesting. Every time you harvest, replant 10-15 plants and grind the rest.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Dragooble on January 18, 2009, 06:46:30 pm
another question. at my level of fishing it says i can construct bow nets.
how do you do that? also how long do i have to sail to get to the 2nd island and in what direction?
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Wooty on January 18, 2009, 06:56:47 pm
Bow nets are buildings in the water that slowly accumulate fish over time... I don't know exactly what you need to make them though.

As for the 2nd island, you don't need to sail, just act like you're settling on the island permanently and eventually the answer will turn up. If you're bored of the island and just want to get on with it,
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: beorn080 on January 18, 2009, 07:05:30 pm
Actually the second island requires tasks to be completed. Eventually you will need to acquire children of the sea and then you will go to the third island. A weapon would be a very good idea to carry at all times.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Wooty on January 18, 2009, 07:21:31 pm
He said to get to the second island, not to get to the third one .That's what I was referring to when I said 2nd.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Dragooble on January 18, 2009, 07:24:00 pm
i have built a hut... nothings happened yet.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: beorn080 on January 18, 2009, 07:27:06 pm
Just keep building and exploring. You'll find it.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on January 18, 2009, 07:28:22 pm
Tree hut?
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Dragooble on January 18, 2009, 07:31:29 pm
does the awnser involve the starfish in any way?
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Wooty on January 18, 2009, 07:44:38 pm
Huh. It happened to me the second I built my hut so I kind of just assumed it happened when you built a hut.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: beorn080 on January 18, 2009, 07:46:44 pm
I think all he has at the moment is a shelter. An actual hut or treehouse is required to advance the "plot". Would make sense if there was an actual mechanics reason to build something other then a shelter. Also would be nice if you could take down your shelter without spending an hour hitting it.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Dragooble on January 18, 2009, 07:59:19 pm
actually i DO have a hut. and im building a treehouse now too. maybe it has to do with the fact i havent taken down my tent and shelter?
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: beorn080 on January 18, 2009, 08:10:33 pm
Then you should have found a lockpick. If you did, go for a walk on the beach and the answer should come to you.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: andrea on January 19, 2009, 01:27:15 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: more spoiler (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: personal spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: beorn080 on January 19, 2009, 02:02:30 pm
You can't build gardens? I know there is one building that attracts a butterfly a day.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Wooty on January 19, 2009, 02:03:08 pm
Spoiler: re personal spoiler (click to show/hide)

Edit: Fixed. Gah. (It used to just say [spoiler:.... instead of having a working spoiler tag)
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Mephisto on January 19, 2009, 02:13:10 pm
Spoiler: re personal spoiler (click to show/hide)
Replaced : with =.

I played the original Stranded II and found it to be lacking. Once my DVI converter arrives in the mail (Damn you, faraway college campus and faulty memory), I'll fire up my gaming machine and give this mod a try.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: andrea on January 19, 2009, 02:55:42 pm
so, that is what garden too? 1 butterfly a day? i found something to do while i wait for the ship. thanks a lot
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Sowelu on January 19, 2009, 02:57:39 pm
Finished the adventure last night.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Sowelu on January 19, 2009, 03:12:26 pm
Fun facts from the scripts that may spoil your deep understanding of the game, including exactly how locusts work:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Man, I really want a WAY harder version of this game.  With no defense towers, because those suck.  And where I have to smoke meat if I want it to last more than a couple days.  Where sleeping in a hut on a hammock is actually better than sleeping under the basic shelter.  Where clothes and equipment gets wet if you swim.  Where you can get too cold or too hot.  Where fires don't last forever, but can catch trees on fire and spread.  Where you can't just eat fish forever for food AND thirst (but where pressing berries into juice isn't a mistake, and where you CAN drink rain, and stuff).

There were some really hardcore awesome games back in the 80s, like one where you crashed in a plane and didn't even automatically have a compass and couldn't automatically place yourself on your topo map, you had to use shadows from the moving sun and pray it was sunny, you didn't automatically know your leg was broken instead of sprained, etc.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: deadlycairn on January 19, 2009, 03:16:41 pm
I'm having a bit of trouble, these combinations to make items are all pretty nonsensical and I have no idea how to create the axe, which I desperately need.

By the way the torch is the best attacking tool, I once set a lion on fire and just ran until it keeled over. ;D
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Glacies on January 19, 2009, 03:27:43 pm
Okay, so I tried out island quest

Volcano village shop is awesome. Maybe they should have more options for trading currency...like 10 worms for 1 shell and vice versa, and also accept gold and iron, perhaps? The only problem is that you can bunk with them and make the whole shelter building thing moot because a water source is right next to a hut. And the abandoned village is even worse for that, with the free fish generators you didn't have to work to build, so you're instantly self-sufficent right when you find it. Oh, and you can walk in the volcano. Something's wrong. I think I saw a GCS in the valley with the sheep. The desert and the artic could use more catci and inukshucks, respectivley.

That is all. Indeed.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: andrea on January 19, 2009, 03:41:38 pm
can't make an axe?
remember that sometime a small stick isn't enough, and you might need something bigger.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on January 19, 2009, 05:20:49 pm
Okay, so I tried out island quest

Volcano village shop is awesome. Maybe they should have more options for trading currency...like 10 worms for 1 shell and vice versa, and also accept gold and iron, perhaps? The only problem is that you can bunk with them and make the whole shelter building thing moot because a water source is right next to a hut. And the abandoned village is even worse for that, with the free fish generators you didn't have to work to build, so you're instantly self-sufficent right when you find it. Oh, and you can walk in the volcano. Something's wrong. I think I saw a GCS in the valley with the sheep. The desert and the artic could use more catci and inukshucks, respectivley.

That is all. Indeed.

Thank you for the feedback :).
There're easy ways to live for those who is "newbie" as I stated above, and you can use the tips about shells etc. or not, I just hunt and build everything from scratch. It was supposed to be alpha version that's why there's a lot of easy-to-get-stuff: to test it (i.e. arbalest reloading speed vs. lion speed etc.).
The shop was "test shop" too, so there'll be more options when I get at them.

There're 2 spiders and 1 huge spider near the "wooly valley" :)

Thank you for ideas for cacti, when I've made this mod I mostly used other people's models and free stuff from the net but now I can make static models easily (no experience with animation still) so cacti are not a problem.

P.S. Free fish generator? What is it? I don't remember :).
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Glacies on January 19, 2009, 06:00:58 pm
The nets near the docks. Some stuff underwater would be neat too, even if it is just pillars and stuff.

Also the boat looks really stupid stuck on that mountain.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on January 19, 2009, 07:47:28 pm
It's not a mountain. These are rocks/reefs and it ended there after a storm: the boat was pierced by a rock after it landed on reefs.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: deadlycairn on January 19, 2009, 08:14:02 pm
Um... I kinda need more help than that. I've tried logs with stones, logs with iron. Logs with iron and vine, logs with iron and cord/vine, logs with stone and cord/vine, bamboo (what is that used for anyway) with stone and cord/vine etc. etc. If I need to build the shelter first I'll be stuffed, as I want the axe to make the logs required for the shelter.

Everything else is going well though. I've got a small farm plot up, growing grapes and grain, I built a tent with lion skin and branches and I have an abundance of claws and teeth I know not what to do with.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Dragooble on January 19, 2009, 08:36:52 pm
to make an axe you need a branch+iron. (raw iron not bar iron)
EDIT: you also need the hammer too.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: deadlycairn on January 20, 2009, 04:07:02 am
Thanks. I actually figured it out with the help of my sister - who has elected to speed through the adventure while I wait on the original island to prepare. We shall see who does better - so far it looks like me, with far more tools and buildings, as well as grapes, berries and grain. ;D
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Glacies on January 20, 2009, 07:44:18 am
It's not a mountain. These are rocks/reefs and it ended there after a storm: the boat was pierced by a rock after it landed on reefs.


So the storm threw the ship up forty feet onto a perfect point? :P Also, if you're going to the new world on a wooden boat, why is there a modern lighter on shore? [/nitpicks]

Otherwise, it's a lot of fun. I fully approve! :D
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Shades on January 20, 2009, 09:23:15 am
Do you still have to click 200 times to add the 200 whatevers to the thing your building, or have they finally fixed that so you can just use whatever you carry at once?

I guess I could install it to find out, but I am lazy :) Just remember getting so annoyed that I was click -> add stone or something over and over.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: andrea on January 20, 2009, 09:28:24 am
it is right click 200 times on the building with your hammer now.

the end wasn't good :(
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Glacies on January 20, 2009, 09:40:38 am
I just ignored the whole lockpick thing and made a comfortable, permanent living on the shore you wash up on. Did you know you can plant red-berries and grapes like you can plant grain? I make my own hooch and bread, supplemented with kiwi meat and fried fish.

Also, the tent is great for travelling in. Whenever you're advancing to another island or whatever else, take a tent on your boat. You can set it up again soon as you hit the shore.

Also is anyone else irritated by how the rain goes right through your roof?
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Yanlin on January 20, 2009, 10:28:44 am
Also is anyone else irritated by how the rain goes right through your roof?

I'm more pissed about how it only appears in front of you and you can't drink it.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Fenrir on January 20, 2009, 10:33:26 am
This game was fun up until I had built everything that there was to build, maybe even a little sooner. Then it instantly got old.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: beorn080 on January 20, 2009, 10:44:53 am
I have to agree with Fenrir. Once you get everything built, your done. The lack of win conditions, even insanely hard ones, limits enjoyment once you get everything built. Thought I suppose raising an army of monkeys and raptors might be worthwhile.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: SHAD0Wdump on January 20, 2009, 11:33:54 am
This is why this game just plain needs multiplayer,if it had that its playability would boost ten fold.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Shades on January 20, 2009, 11:37:27 am
You'd need to do something about sleeping though. Time skips don't work well in multiplayer ;)
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Fenrir on January 20, 2009, 11:40:28 am
This is why this game just plain needs multiplayer,if it had that its playability would boost ten fold.
QFT

How difficult would adding multiplayer be?
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: SHAD0Wdump on January 20, 2009, 11:51:14 am
As shades said,sleeping would be the major hurdle.

There is actually a in game chat system already,it just has no current purpose.

I have no idea coding wise.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Fenrir on January 20, 2009, 11:54:02 am
Nuke sleeping if it's going to stand in the way.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: SHAD0Wdump on January 20, 2009, 11:54:28 am
I just thought that. O)

I'm imagining 4 players,two work together the others fighting amongst themselves.

Another issue would be the need to code certain objects/tamed creatures to either attack or ignore people the owner deems enemy/ally.

Still another,I'm pretty sure the player has no model,more importantly I'm not sure if there is suitable code for players having models. Nevah mind.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Fenrir on January 20, 2009, 12:18:52 pm
The player does have a model.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Sowelu on January 20, 2009, 12:33:02 pm
This is why this game just plain needs multiplayer,if it had that its playability would boost ten fold.
QFT

How difficult would adding multiplayer be?

Insanely hard.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Shades on January 20, 2009, 12:34:49 pm
Insanely hard.

Agreed, it would be much easier to remake the game concept in an engine that already had multiplayer (torque for example)

The game itself isn't exactly complicated.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Fenrir on January 20, 2009, 12:52:47 pm
Bugger. If memory serves, the developer has explicitly stated that he won't be making mulitplayer, at least not any time soon.

For now we'll have to settle for succession islands or something.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: SHAD0Wdump on January 20, 2009, 12:59:36 pm
Or as stated,mod another game.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Danaru on January 20, 2009, 01:19:03 pm
succession islands

DO.

WANT.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Mephisto on January 20, 2009, 01:34:07 pm
Not cool. I can't sleep. The default sleep key is "z". I press z. Nothing happens.

It's especially bad in Island Survival or whatever the mod is called, when I start with a nearly-full fatigue bar. It wouldn't be so bad, but being tired KILLS YOU.


Forget it. The default seems to be "z" on a German keyboard, which is not located where the "z" is on mine. I reconfigured the controls. When I pressed "z", it came up as "y".
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Fenrir on January 20, 2009, 01:37:49 pm
succession islands

DO.

WANT.
I don't actually see that being too much fun since player creativity is limited to a far greater degree than in Dwarf Fortress. The only real decision you can make is where to place a building. There's no way to make a truely personal mark on the island.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Boogerman on January 20, 2009, 02:49:35 pm
succession islands

DO.

WANT.
I don't actually see that being too much fun since player creativity is limited to a far greater degree than in Dwarf Fortress. The only real decision you can make is where to place a building. There's no way to make a truely personal mark on the island.

Make a maze out of grain.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Sowelu on January 20, 2009, 03:20:28 pm
That would be fun until the locusts showed up, though I guess you can mod it to get rid of 'em.

Would be a shame to remake this in another engine--The graphics engine is actually GREAT for this game, seriously.  The landscape works quite impressively (though I don't like climbing-up-any-height-cliffs), navigating generally feels natural except in the editor, and the graphics effects look great and run fast on my machine.

Also the scripting language is apparently awesome and easy to use.  Though it WOULD be nice to lose its many many limitations.
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Post by: Fenrir on January 20, 2009, 03:30:11 pm
Hmm.... Since it's so easy to mod, perhaps we should have a community mod. We treat it like a succession fort and pass the game between people. Each person contributes something to the game. After everyone has added something, we could then proceed with the succession island plan.
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Post by: Wooty on January 20, 2009, 06:52:26 pm
Didn't somebody mod shovel that lowered the level of the terrain, and gave you dirt you could use to raise the terrain? Just that alone would let us make awsome succession islands.
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Post by: Sowelu on January 20, 2009, 09:29:28 pm
Hey, that would be cool.

My biggest issue is that there's not much you can do for a tech tree.  Right now, for gathering ore, well, you just walk to wherever the ore is and that's all.  There's no reason to accumulate much.  It would be awesome to have cause to fill up a wood storage, but right now, not really.

Also, uh, pounding at a rock for hours is kind of neat on Wurm, when you're standing next to other players, but I'm not sure how fun it would be in a single player game.

It could be fun if we switch off every game week though, hmm...  Would really have to think about "how am I going to optimize my time here".
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Post by: Vactor on January 20, 2009, 10:30:43 pm
One of the weaknesses of a game like this is that the fun for me is derived from what you don't know you can make.  Part of the drive to play is the idea that there is something you haven't discovered yet. Once that is no longer true it becomes tedious.
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Post by: deadlycairn on January 20, 2009, 11:13:54 pm
I'm driven by fear. Constantly upgrading my little shelter on island to protect me from my three great fears - fear of thirst, fear of hunger and fear of lions ;D. Because of these, I have a well, grain, berries, grapes, a slingshot, a bow, and a machete, and am collecting ammo for all of the above. Admittedly though, it can get boring quite fast, and I would like to mod some of the things that DONT make sense. Mining iron with your bare hands for a start.

On a side note, anyone know what claws and teeth are good for? As fun as not knowing is - it gets frustrating.
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Post by: Wooty on January 20, 2009, 11:46:34 pm
Claw spears, and some kind of claw/teeth arrows/darts that I can't really remember. And I think you might need some for a tent, but I might be thinking hides. Nothing incredibly useful
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Post by: Mephisto on January 20, 2009, 11:50:40 pm
Clawspear (clever name) is claw + branch. Tents don't have claws, just hides.

Teeth, as far as I can tell, do nothing.
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Post by: Wooty on January 20, 2009, 11:54:01 pm
I remeber now - teeth are slingshot ammunition. Claws might be too.
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Post by: deadlycairn on January 21, 2009, 12:12:23 am
Just a question - do you know of any hazard (probably one found in the sea) that can kill you in ~1 second on the second island? My sister's usual anti-enemy tactic is to run to the coastline, and with no real weapons whatsoever, she was ill-prepared for the second Island. Upon being mobbed by various clawmonkeys, she headed into the sea with about three-quarters health. Cue her screen flashing red three times in quick succession, and she's dead. Funnily enough, she elected to prepare further on the initial island instead of messing with the pirate :D
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Post by: Deon on January 21, 2009, 01:15:45 am
There may be some fish with teeth.

Also whoever couldn't press Z to sleep... There's a "sleep" button in character screen, you click it with a mouse. I've made you to sleep on my island for purpose: while you sleep  0:00 passes and everything which is generateed is, well, generated (like jungles, monster spawns etc.).
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Post by: A_Fey_Dwarf on January 21, 2009, 01:23:05 am
Just a question - do you know of any hazard (probably one found in the sea) that can kill you in ~1 second on the second island?

Glitchy sharks. For some reason they can swim through land and you can't tell they are there until it is too late. This usually wouldn't be a problem as you don't really need to go in the ocean all that often but on this island you are required to swim in the water on two separate missions (only one if you bring a fishing rod, which I was unfortunate enough to forget).
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Post by: Danaru on January 21, 2009, 05:28:15 am
Ironically enough, I found that the lions on the first island made an excellent food source

The Hunter becomes the Hunted.
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Post by: Deon on January 21, 2009, 06:03:55 am
Just play my mod :).

In vanilla lions are pussies.
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Post by: beorn080 on January 21, 2009, 10:45:19 am
Claws and teeth can be used as arbalest and slingshot ammo. Claws can also be used to make clawspears, which inflict bleed on any creature they hit. Thus one spear can kill a lion or raptor easy.
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Post by: andrea on January 21, 2009, 11:06:29 am
must find how to make arbalest. must be interetsing
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Post by: Deon on January 21, 2009, 11:08:09 am
Which island are you on?

P.S. Arbalest is broken in unmodded game. It should have reloading time of 5 or 6 seconds at least. When it shoots like an automated rifle it has no sense.
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Post by: andrea on January 21, 2009, 11:22:38 am
i finished the game. i wait for 14 days, i get tips on how to survive... and then i am back home?
bah.

also, is bamboo used for anything?
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Post by: beorn080 on January 21, 2009, 11:28:40 am
Bamboo + machete = bolts for arbalest.
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Post by: Sowelu on January 21, 2009, 01:02:19 pm
i finished the game. i wait for 14 days, i get tips on how to survive... and then i am back home?
bah.

also, is bamboo used for anything?

yeah, I was REAAAALLY torn about whether I wanted a super-hard island with all my previous stuff, (I had assumed I could load equipment onto the yacht like I could onto the sailraft), or whether I wanted to be dropped naked and screaming onto another island like you are on 4 again.

I mean, as long as there's trees and plants, there's water, and bark means food.  And it would have been kind of awesome to have to plant trees just to harvest their leaves to drink from.  It's just...a little too easy sometimes!  If there was no cotton and no plantable things besides trees, even vanilla would be challenging.

(Grapes and berries are so broken.  Find one bush with fifteen grapes, and in a week you have fifteen plants that can never be destroyed.  Also, berry juice restores a LOT less thirst than just eating fifteen berries, plus it weighs more...)
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Post by: andrea on January 21, 2009, 01:51:19 pm
yes, berry juice isn't very good.

in the first island i found bone. can i use it for something? (don't tell me what, just yes or no)
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Post by: deadlycairn on January 21, 2009, 01:54:41 pm
What about wine? I got a ton of grape vines so I decided to stock up pre-digging up treasure. I plan on leaving with bread, fish,wine, water, weapons and all my tools ;D
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Post by: Sowelu on January 21, 2009, 02:44:12 pm
yes, berry juice isn't very good.

in the first island i found bone. can i use it for something? (don't tell me what, just yes or no)

No.  Sorry :(

Hmm, I wonder if bone would make a good replacement for sticks in some hard-mode mods, before the player got enough carving tools and skills to make tools with carved branches?
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Post by: Deon on January 21, 2009, 04:55:45 pm
Bone -> bone arrows/bolts.
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Post by: A_Fey_Dwarf on January 21, 2009, 05:15:35 pm
Another thing that needs fixing in the game is that fishing rods should be made with bamboo and string. As a matter of fact bamboo makes great fishing rods if you don't have money to buy the proper thing. It's light, flexible and strong what more could you want?
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Post by: SHAD0Wdump on January 21, 2009, 05:19:17 pm
Bamboo doesn't have enough uses.(programed ones)
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Post by: Deon on January 21, 2009, 08:50:23 pm
Bamboo can be used to make bamboo huts, outrigger (boat) and maybe something else... Oh, and a blowpipe.
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Post by: andrea on January 22, 2009, 09:09:47 am
vanilla or mod?
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Post by: Deon on January 22, 2009, 11:28:19 am
Mod. (10 symbols) :)
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Post by: Sowelu on January 22, 2009, 12:55:16 pm
The vanilla and mod crosstalk in here is very confusing!
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Post by: sonerohi on August 28, 2009, 09:14:14 pm
Keep modding Deon.
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Post by: Errol on August 29, 2009, 03:50:27 am
Goddamned thread necromancers.
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Post by: Dr. Johbson on August 29, 2009, 04:32:49 am
Some things can not be allowed to die. Fun game, by the way. I'm worried I have an older version of Deon's mod though.
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Post by: Apple Master on August 30, 2009, 04:49:18 am
I tried this when I was 12ish and I didn't understand it at all.
But now I do.
Although I'm still on the 1st island...
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Post by: Blaze on August 30, 2009, 05:23:27 am
The first and second-to-last areas are the most fun IMO, since:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The game does become kind of easy once you have high enough skills, since most non-combat tools are relatively easy to make.

I mostly just generate random worlds and see where it takes me; now if only I could figure out how to work the debug screen to regen the world after I'm finished with it.
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Post by: Apple Master on August 30, 2009, 08:16:58 am
Hm.
Does anyone have any mods to reccomend?
Also is there a way to make animals "sleep" at night?
Damn lions!
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Post by: Blaze on August 30, 2009, 10:36:59 am
Not to be too condescending, but I suggest you play through the entire original campaign before trying out a mod.

SII doesn't have much in the way of Official (or unofficial, for that matter) mods, but I suppose you could try the Massive Mod (http://"http://www.unrealsoftware.de/forum_posts.php?post=84044&start=420).

Animals never sleep AFAIK, but If you're still on the first island, just avoid the northern section; at least until you've built up a decent stock of weapons. If you're on a later island, when you clear out an area, make sure to destroy the lion spawning rock. Spears and bows/crossbows should be simple enough to create with the items you have at your disposal.

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Post by: Apple Master on August 30, 2009, 10:55:20 am
Ah, Neato.
Another question, how do I rotate things when I'm placing them? (Buildings)
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Post by: x2yzh9 on August 30, 2009, 11:29:27 am
I downloaded notrium and its an exe, i start it and nothin comes up, i look in processes under task manager, no notrium.exe! I meet the system requirements. any ideas?
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Post by: Blaze on August 30, 2009, 11:41:08 am
If you hold down the mouse button when the building footprint is visible, you can rotate it. I don't think you can rotate buildings vertically though.

I downloaded notrium and its an exe, i start it and nothin comes up, i look in processes under task manager, no notrium.exe! I meet the system requirements. any ideas?
That's because you downloaded the installation executable, you'll need to install that first.
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Post by: Megaman on August 30, 2009, 11:53:21 am
I've played this on and off for 2 years and I found myself doing the large map and hard mode often. I'm a difficultcy freak.
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Post by: Apple Master on August 30, 2009, 12:00:32 pm
Ah, excellent
Finally I can fence of my humble abode from those damn lions.
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Post by: sonerohi on August 30, 2009, 12:31:48 pm
On Deon's mod, what is the blackish rock needed for furnaces?
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Post by: Uber dwarf2.0 on August 30, 2009, 12:32:22 pm
Is there a wikia for this?
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Post by: Megaman on August 30, 2009, 12:45:44 pm
did anyone know there's some HFS(Hidden Fun Stuff) on the main menu?
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Megaman on August 30, 2009, 01:58:59 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
this is what should happen, also
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
exploits and problems-
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: beorn080 on August 30, 2009, 02:01:35 pm
Large island hard mode isn't that hard. Small island hard mode is INCREDIBLY hard. Your pretty much guaranteed to find all the resources if you look far enough on a large island. On a small island, you have critters at your door all the time unless you stop them, and if you stop them no more meat.

Oh, a bit of a major glitch. Once you can recover arrows via hunting skill, your arrow towers leave arrows occasionally. Granted, they are the low level ones, but if you put a couple near a lion rock, and sleep, when you go back, there will be several hundred arrows on the ground.

Also, your best weapon is probably your bow. Poison and flame arrows make it easy to knock off critters and trees, respectively.
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Post by: Megaman on August 30, 2009, 02:04:40 pm
ninja'ed! Anyway, on large hard maps I set out to exterminate the lions and raptors+raptor spawn points, and leave lion spawnpoints in some cases because lions give good meat.
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Post by: Apple Master on August 30, 2009, 02:10:01 pm
I made myself an Arbelest and proceeded to own the lions on the first island.
Hooray!.
How does the lockpicking minigame work?
I can cycle from 1-3.
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Post by: Megaman on August 30, 2009, 02:15:01 pm
the right combonation of clicking the buttons.All it does is take time to do though.
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Post by: Apple Master on August 30, 2009, 03:02:37 pm
And clicking the buttons just = choosing them?
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Post by: Blaze on August 30, 2009, 05:23:26 pm
Just click the left/right buttons in the correct order.
The combination is:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Does anyone have a working link for Dean's mod? The previous rapidshare link timed out.
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Post by: Megaman on August 30, 2009, 06:32:10 pm
yes please give us the link, or else I'll have to kill all of rapidshare
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Post by: Apple Master on August 31, 2009, 04:46:06 am
OH GOD DON'T DO IT.
OMNOMNOM TASTY MOD (http://filesmelt.com/downloader/stranded_iq.rar)
EDIT: I'm on the 3rd island.
Are the nests with 3 spikes near them raptor nests?
If so I need to get rid of them.
Damn raptors.
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Post by: Megaman on August 31, 2009, 12:33:52 pm
yup. go get your machete and cut the shit out of them.
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Post by: beorn080 on August 31, 2009, 01:53:56 pm
Fire arrows are better. One shot each of the nests, and they should die in short order.
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Post by: SHAD0Wdump on August 31, 2009, 01:58:15 pm
If you get enough resources,and the nest is close enough,just surround them with those little arrow tower things,then come back every day to reap the meat.
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Post by: Megaman on August 31, 2009, 03:49:12 pm
I on average only get arrow towers after around a month in-game.
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Post by: SHAD0Wdump on August 31, 2009, 06:06:56 pm
Good point... This tactic is fairly dangerous as you need to preserve yourself and the thing making that objective hell...

But if you can pull it off,it is worth it.

Also... Sleep in a tree house,seriously.
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Post by: beorn080 on August 31, 2009, 07:12:30 pm
I prefer the archery stands. Can be built anywhere, though they lack the terminal velocity fall trick of the treehouses.
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Post by: Apple Master on September 01, 2009, 03:02:49 am
Also, is the 3rd island always the same time of day?
It doesn't seem to get light at all.
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Post by: Megaman on September 01, 2009, 11:09:44 am
ehem, EBIL ISLAND.
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Post by: Apple Master on September 01, 2009, 11:28:25 am
Yay 4th island ohshit where's my stuff.
AHHH LION.
*dies*
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Post by: Megaman on September 01, 2009, 04:00:08 pm
ahh yes, island where IT MAKES JOO DIE
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Post by: Metalax on September 01, 2009, 11:22:57 pm
Does anyone have a working link for Dean's mod? The previous rapidshare link timed out.

Found it buried in my miscellaneous old stuff directory. I've bunged it up on megaupload.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LYYT9TMM (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LYYT9TMM)
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Post by: Apple Master on September 02, 2009, 04:26:09 am
I already did that up thar ^^
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Post by: Apple Master on September 04, 2009, 12:24:55 pm
BAMP.
Hurrah I finished the story.,
Guide me to the best mods, pleeeeeeease.
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Post by: Mono124 on September 05, 2009, 11:15:10 am
Um.... Is there a reason to build a raft on Random Island mode? I built a raft and have been sailing for seven game days straight but haven't found another island. Will I ever find one?
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Post by: Blaze on September 05, 2009, 11:23:12 am
Nope, rafts are only for sea travel, around the island.

I've been working on a way to change maps when I've finished with one. Unfortunately, I can only load premade maps, as opposed to generating a new one.
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Post by: beorn080 on September 05, 2009, 11:31:08 am
The raft is great for a portable storage unit.
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Post by: Megaman on September 05, 2009, 11:32:43 am
the raft is some-what useless. Well until somone makes a map with a cluster of islands and you need a boat to get by the(sharp) reefs.
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Post by: beorn080 on September 05, 2009, 11:54:05 am
Or Lots of sharks and pirahnas. Those buggers are nasty.
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Post by: Dragooble on September 05, 2009, 06:28:21 pm
question. does the gold bow or the arbalest do more damage?
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Post by: Blaze on September 05, 2009, 06:35:12 pm
question. does the gold bow or the arbalest do more damage?
Goldbow does more damage and fires faster I believe.
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Post by: beorn080 on September 05, 2009, 07:23:16 pm
Can also fire multiple types of ammo, namely fire, poison, and regular.
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Post by: wutwut on September 07, 2009, 07:39:05 am
how do i delete unwanted items like bone?
is there a use for slime?
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Post by: andrea on September 07, 2009, 08:16:35 am
you can eat slime i think
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Post by: Megaman on September 07, 2009, 11:36:40 am
Can also fire multiple types of ammo, namely fire, poison, and regular.
all bow-type can fire multiple types of ammo
how do i delete unwanted items like bone?
click on the item, press the big X
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Post by: beorn080 on September 07, 2009, 11:43:44 am
He was comparing the arbalest and the gold bow. The arbalest can fire multiple types, but all do the same thing with varying levels of damage. The gold bow can fire arrows, poison arrows, and fire arrows, the last two do things beyond damage. Add in a claw spear for bleed and you drop anything really quick.
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Post by: Megaman on September 07, 2009, 02:10:34 pm
a lil inneficent since you spend alot of time to kill one thing, I would suggest giving a raptor a dose of poision and then gunning it down with 'normal' arrow
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Post by: wutwut on September 07, 2009, 04:43:35 pm
click on the item, press the big X
[/quote]
that just drops it on the ground though
how do i get rid of it permanently?
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Post by: Dragooble on September 07, 2009, 06:19:56 pm
i don't think you can.
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Post by: SHAD0Wdump on September 07, 2009, 07:07:41 pm
Don't items sometimes disappear after a while?
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Post by: Metalax on September 07, 2009, 07:15:09 pm
Yep, most items dropped on the ground will disappear after a few days/sleeps.
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Post by: SHAD0Wdump on September 07, 2009, 07:24:48 pm
Heh... I had one session where I simply let my tools and some other crap sit on the ground near my tent,they never disappeared. I assumed the tend somehow protects that,but possibly it has to do with something like sleep proximity.
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Post by: Itnetlolor on September 08, 2009, 12:26:42 am
Just got started on this addictive game. Thanks alot Bay-12 for giving me more crap to eat my time with another awesome game. :P

Anyway. Just reading some of the more recent posts, I figured stuff would want to disappear if I don't keep an eye on it; so I spent some time hauling stuff to my camp, just in case.

I'm still learning, but interestingly enough, for my first playthough, I did manage to kill off 2 lions (each a day apart from each other) with only a hammer and a flint rock on my first week, while getting burned by acid mushrooms and having an open wound after the second lion. His skin made a nice bandage.

I'm on a quest right now to find out if there are any Dharma Initiative stations placed on the Story Mode island.
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Post by: Sowelu on September 08, 2009, 03:08:05 am
I'm on a quest right now to find out if there are any Dharma Initiative stations placed on the Story Mode island.

That would be the best game EVER.
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Post by: Supercharazad on August 19, 2010, 08:45:36 am
This game is fun, and occaisionally FUN, I suggest anyone looking for a good survival game try this out!
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Post by: Jreengus on August 19, 2010, 08:47:01 am
What an informative and interesting post, certainly worth necroing a year old thread.
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Post by: Akura on August 19, 2010, 09:01:56 am
Oh, and you can destroy items by attacking them, to answer the question made a year ago.
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Post by: cartmann on August 19, 2010, 09:28:49 am
Soon gets boring though.
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Post by: Deon on August 19, 2010, 09:32:39 am
It just needs more modules for multiplayer version. Am I the only one who's made a big map with extensive crafting tree for this?
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Post by: dwarfguy2 on August 19, 2010, 09:59:48 am
mac version? is there one?
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Post by: Itnetlolor on August 19, 2010, 11:18:54 am
What's the most difficult vanilla random map settings to use? I'm up for a challenge. I mean, my RM is just about at it's limit (huge, normal, normal grassy). Bought all the items I could ever need (wandering hippie on island with me), there's tons of wildlife for game hunting with my arbalest, and I just about maxed out everything, and it all looks nice; plus, I have me a sailraft.

Alternatively, I have a new game with the Massive Mod installed. That poses a greater challenge, provided all the additional adjustments made to it. Not a fan of the forging process

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Fishing Rod = Bendable wood, cotton/wool rope
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: kilakan on August 19, 2010, 11:42:44 am
well I'm happy for the necro, now for an important question: HOW THE HECK DO I MAKE A FISHING ROD!!!
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Mephisto on August 19, 2010, 11:44:06 am
Wouldn't the highest challenge be on the smallest map possible with low resources? It's been a while since I played, but I seem to recall that it's possible that vital resources aren't available on maps like that.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Astral on August 19, 2010, 12:23:58 pm
I played this game for a while a while back, but didn't like how unintuitive some of the combinations were, and I had to constantly look back at a website detailing some of the most essential ones (for lack of a "I've built this, I know what it needs later" feature ingame).

Great game, could use some polish.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Jreengus on August 19, 2010, 12:27:56 pm
The only one I never got was how to make bendy wood, it makes no sense.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Megaman on August 19, 2010, 01:31:56 pm
HOW THE HECK DO I MAKE A FISHING ROD!!!
In order to create the fishing device, you must use a branch next to water to get bendy wood, harvest wool or cotton(press e near sheep, or attack cotton plants with your hands) get a cord(I think you have to use the cotton or wool in your inventory) combine the two. FISHING ROD GET
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: kilakan on August 19, 2010, 02:34:40 pm
thank you so much, now do i need a lure?
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Megaman on August 19, 2010, 02:36:33 pm
You can make a spade to get worms and such, I think you need iron and a straight branch.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: kilakan on August 19, 2010, 02:37:14 pm
ah thanks.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: dwarfguy2 on August 20, 2010, 11:00:27 am
guys is there a mac version.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on August 20, 2010, 11:15:02 am
I think that there's only one version...

And a challenge: come find and kill GCS in my map :P.

(http://i35.tinypic.com/f9qyoj.jpg)

P.S. Ah wait it's spider queen.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Hugehead on August 20, 2010, 11:52:52 am
Is that a custom map or did they add a underground area?
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Megaman on August 20, 2010, 11:59:24 am
I believe Deon made a mod with a custom map that included that. So yes, I suppose it is a custom map.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Itnetlolor on August 20, 2010, 12:47:02 pm
I'll need a bunch of bamboo and vines to craft myself one monstrous flip-flop to crush that thing.

Or I can always set it on fire, and melt me a vat of butter. Not letting that much meat go to waste. :d
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on August 21, 2010, 10:23:43 am
Download it here: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=3743

Map (it's mirrored, sorry... I forgot that when I took screenshot)
(http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2787/mapcolorbiomesxo2.png)

Go into single island -> Island_Quest.051


P.S.

Old screenshots: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=2714.msg45209#msg45209

And yeah, I've added a few custom monsters:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

And...

(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4976/ninjadwv9.png)

:P
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: dwarfguy2 on August 21, 2010, 10:52:08 am
WHY MUST AWESOME GAMES ONLY BE DEVELOPED FOR WINDOWS!
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Saint on August 21, 2010, 10:55:55 am
WHY MUST AWESOME GAMES ONLY BE DEVELOPED FOR WINDOWS!
Because mac's are limited by apple and suck, they also cost too much.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: dwarfguy2 on August 21, 2010, 11:07:08 am
WHY MUST AWESOME GAMES ONLY BE DEVELOPED FOR WINDOWS!
Because mac's are limited by apple and suck, they also cost too much.
friggin' parents. making me use this piece of scrap. i could crap a better computer.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Saint on August 21, 2010, 12:36:58 pm
WHY MUST AWESOME GAMES ONLY BE DEVELOPED FOR WINDOWS!
Because mac's are limited by apple and suck, they also cost too much.
friggin' parents. making me use this piece of scrap. i could crap a better computer.
You could build a better rig for about 300$.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Itnetlolor on August 21, 2010, 01:47:16 pm
Yeah, my old mac is pretty much obsolete to the newer stuff out there now Mac-wise. Now it functions as an interactive external hard drive.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Sensei on April 09, 2011, 02:15:24 pm
Here comes the necro!

I played through the adventure mode and was left wanting more. The random maps kinda suck and I can't wrap my head around the editor much (besides, it's no fun to play a map you know inside and out).

So:
-Where's the good player-made maps?
-Does multiplayer work?
-Whatever happened to unreal software? News updates and patches seem to come every several months, with the last one being on the last day of last year... it would suggest they're working it, or working on something, but on the other hand they never did get around to the promised English translations they started way back in 2007. At least, for Stranded. Looks like they're still working on games like Counter Strike 2D. So did they just switch over to making Worms rip-offs?
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Kadzar on May 13, 2011, 04:44:19 pm
I've been playing the mod and map that Deon made for this. There are a ton of resources on the map, but he made lion-spawners pretty much impossible to destroy, so I'm building a wall of palisades around the spawner.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Vendayn on March 13, 2012, 01:20:03 am
While this thread is very very old and there hasn't been any Stranded II topics since this. I didn't really want to make a new thread, as all the information is in this one.

So, I'll just post a reply, as I think that might be best. If not, sorry guys.

So the other day I downloaded Stranded II while a good friend of mine was over, as he likes these kind of games. I never played before, but I've seen this talked about a bit. I got my friend rather addicted to it. :P Same with myself, lol. The vanilla version doesn't work at all, though. By that, I mean I can't play on any resolution except 800x600 as the UI gets really messed up on anything higher. My monitor is 1920x1080, so 800x600 does not work for my eyes at all. Using mods fixes this, for some reason. Like I used Massive Mod and the higher resolution worked just fine.

Also, supposedly Stranded III is being made...but the developer is in school to learn game design, and he has a lot of tests. So he just works on it as he gets time (which I imagine isn't much). Something to look forward to.

So, I've tried various mods. Massive Mod, Forest Mod are two ones I liked, that I found on the official forum. Massive Mod does make things take a bit longer, but I think it aims for a more realistic approach

However, the main reason I'm replying. I've been playing the Island Quest mod by Deon and it is by far my favorite. Partly because of the map that comes with it, is rather epic. I also like all the things it adds. But most importantly...it adds one of my favorite things found on planet Earth...ANTS! :D I love ants, so its awesome to see he added them. So, I don't know if Deon comes around anymore...but nice job on your mod and map. I highly recommend you guys give his mod a try.

Anyway, I really enjoy Stranded II. Doesn't seem to be well known, or at least hasn't been talked about in a while. But I really enjoy it. Kind of feels like a 3d Unreal World, or Wurm kind of game. And the editing tools are rather nice, at least for making maps and stuff.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Deon on October 29, 2013, 04:09:23 am
I was reminded of my old mod and that all the links are broken, so here's the reupload if someone still wants to play it for whatever reason:

(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/889/volcanogf5.png)

(http://i40.tinypic.com/2zqzb0o.jpg)

(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9171/jungleli7.png)


Old posts about it:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=2714.msg395670#msg395670
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=2714.msg396009#msg396009

Download : http://www.mediafire.com/?vw7f5g7571xpfgz
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Reer123 on June 05, 2014, 07:40:21 am
3 happy. 3 crash island and 3 find food.



I created an account to post this. :)

This thread inspired me to download Stranded, after looking for over two days and unsuccessfully trying to "survive" on Minecraft I decided to give this a try. The thing that inspired me to look for a survival game was a recent show called "Marooned With Ed Stafford" which was basically like this game, the guy, Ed, is dropped off in a remote island in the Pacific and has to survive for sixty days. He survived alright and then he started going to other places, Romanian Mountains, Bornea, Australia and much more. After his last survival experience which was the last he was going to do I just decided to survive on Minecraft, which after five minutes doesn't work that well.

So I searched around "Cast away game" and found a "The Island: Castaway" from which I played the free trial and enjoyed it but it wasn't free roam, you were following a set story. So, I searched some more "Survival Island Games" and then in the images I saw the home page for Stranded, I had seen it a year earlier and wondered if it was any good, but back then I had the mentality that the graphics had to be awesome or no play the game. So this time I downloaded it, I started the Adventure and straight away got stuck, so I found this thread. It basically got me off the ground from hands, to axe to machete.

I watched a video of the adventure and completely ruined it for myself so I decided to go for a random island. All these islands just weren't right, I tried creating a island as I create maps on Minecraft [Created a cool Europe map :) ] but it wasn't really working, would have to get a height map which I didn't have the time to make. So after reading this whole forum I was following your [Deon's] progress on the map, but after trying most the download links and them failing I nearly gave up. Then the last download link I downloaded. I celebrated, even though it was 2am and after unzipping it I opened the game. I didn't know how to load the map, xD, so I went into load game which were survivals of Deon so I just left them, then I went into map editor and finally found the map. I tried to open it but an error kept coming up, I tried every version of it but still no luck. While writing this I decided to play one of your saves, I played the latest Deon2, t'was cool, killed off the giant spider easily with a knife, just ran in a circle hitting it's back. Then I looted all the iron. The steep cliffs can be ran up in a matter of seconds.... sadly so the spider attacked me in the hut. I then went out into the frost plain, which seemed a little flat like it was off the map or something so after consulting the map beside the gun I headed out for the gold. Got the event message for gold and mined around ten nuggets then I headed off for the village. The female villagers look really cool and it was fun going around to the villagers and buying stuff. I went to the chieftain because I had been poisoned by the spider and tried to buy some medicine but had ate all the meat keeping myself alive xD so I walked out of his hut and found the first aid. :P and then went back into his hut and found a healing potion. I headed off, with no poison and decided to climb the volcano. When I got to the top I was a bit disappointed to see no lava [You could make it like a pool of water but re-texture the water and then add a lot of sharks and piranha's so that if you take a dive you die.]. I then headed into the jungle and killed a monkey, I heard the foot steps and me being a bit paranoid took out the gun, I was looking around when I saw off in the trees something, one of your raptor type animals, running off I decided to chase it. I ran after it and was slowly closing in, it didn't seem to notice me but I don't know if this was just a coincident, it put itself behind a poisonous plant, while I was running at it. I didn't notice the plant and hit it, it then turned and in two hits I was dead... I then came back to writing this :). So after failing to get the map up I went onto unreal world, this was sort of fun, I had to look at a guide which was slightly hard to follow and then in the end killed myself. Started another char and killed myself. Then on the third char I actually found out what I was doing wrong and started the guide again, this time getting good until it said tracking. I couldn't find an animal and when I did it just ran away at first site.... So I just ran as fast as I could as far away as possible and then I got tired and slept, when I woke up I found a village, not that far from me so I went there. I went into a house and took all the stuff, I had been hungry and found food. Satisfied with my gain and not knowing the repercussions I headed off only to be stopped by an angry axe man. I told him I was robbing his stuff and he started to kick me. I was locked in the crawl position and didn't know how to stand so I had my rock and kept on hitting him in the legs. After around twenty minutes of this three other guys all armed with swords or knifes came over and two minutes later I got knocked out. They took all my stuff and at 85% injury I couldn't move so I just killed myself, which ended my night of fun. :P

I'm gonna go play Stranded again and either use one of my height maps from Minecraft or just play on Island 1 in story mode. I'd say I'll make a custom island :)
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Reer123 on June 05, 2014, 10:26:46 am
Here is the screen shot.
(http://i.imgur.com/aM1SzHt.png)
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Wooty on June 05, 2014, 07:37:08 pm
Since the thread's been revived I'll throw out the developer blog for Stranded III. Little more than a bare bones engine so far, but he's making slow and steady progress.

http://stranded3.com/
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: SeaBee on June 08, 2014, 10:03:36 pm
I spent a lot of time playing Stranded 2. Really enjoyed it.

Thanks for the link to Stranded 3, Wooty! Didn't know it was a thing.
Title: Re: Stranded II - God damnit I need two more vines.
Post by: Seriyu on June 09, 2014, 12:38:17 am
That is good news, I loved stranded 2, it was ultimately too limited for me though.