Got the game. It’s fun but boy is power annoying in the first tiers. You have to run everything on biomass which is a limited resource and your power costs to up pretty quickly as well.
I have also heard rumors it has a data collecting scheme, haven't bothered to look up the articles on it though.
Have fun with your Chinese spyware, everyone.I will have fun thanks.
From the comments, looks like somebody getting worked up over not necessarily a big deal. It's slow and poorly coded but there's no real evidence that it's spying on you at a level beyond the industry standard.I have also heard rumors it has a data collecting scheme, haven't bothered to look up the articles on it though.
Have a relevant Reddit post. (https://www.reddit.com/r/PhoenixPoint/comments/b0rxdq/epic_game_store_spyware_tracking_and_you/) I'm not surprised, though, given Tencent.
Have fun with your Chinese spyware, everyone.
Saw the ads for this and it's about... Chopping down forests to build factories? Why would you want that?
Also you are contractually obligatedThat... Also doesn't strike me as fun.
It’s... a video game. No different than killing people in shooter games.There's a difference between some fun violence, or even fun evil, and tiresome corporate wage slavery and waste.
Uh. Wow.I shared my impression and then continued to talk to people who talked to me about it. That's not a campaign, that's how threads here always work. There's no need to act like I shat on your dog.
It’s a game where you build factories. That’s it. It seems like you don’t like that gameplay concept and are using it to campaign against it. It’s just not for you, man. I don’t see why you’re so worked up about the fluff beyond the gameplay.
I shared my impression and then continued to talk to people who talked to me about it. That's not a campaign, that's how threads here always work. There's no need to act like I shat on your dog.You also assumed background fluff to game-play mechanics.
Maybe look at what I actually wrote. I talked about perception and portrayal of the game only, because that's the only part I'm qualified to talk about. But since that sort of thing is usually supposed to reflect what the game's about (and it's on Epic, so I don't have steam reviews or anything to go by) I reckon it's significant enough to mention.I shared my impression and then continued to talk to people who talked to me about it. That's not a campaign, that's how threads here always work. There's no need to act like I shat on your dog.You also assumed background fluff to game-play mechanics.
I miss having some "downtime" or "sideline" activities in Factorio.
Protecting the environment is for those loser civilizations that don't have interstellar travel and are stuck where they evolved. :P
As for Epic: The whole "Epic is spyware!" BS is way overblown (oh no, they preload your Steam friends list just in case you decide to link your accounts), and the "but they are owned by the Chinese!" BS ignores the fact that so are a bunch of other companies no one seems to care about (also, Tencent does not have a controlling interest in Epic, so it kinda doesn't matter).
Making matters more absurd is the whole "exclusives" thing. Exclusive to Epic is *nothing* like console exclusives. You can still buy the game and play it on PC, where a console exclusive can only be bought and played on that console, not to mention that Epic exclusives are often available on consoles too so it is even less like a traditional exclusive. It is the equivalent of needing to go to Gamestop instead of Walmart. Who cares?
Steam exclusives were fine for years, now that there is a second store that is getting some exclusives it is suddenly bad? Uh huh. Pull the other one.
Oh and I don't really care about the Epic launcher, it seems like they take a smaller cut than Steam (5% instead of 10%) so if that means more money to the devs, it's all good in my book.
Oh and I don't really care about the Epic launcher, it seems like they take a smaller cut than Steam (5% instead of 10%) so if that means more money to the devs, it's all good in my book.
While I'm in favor of moving the launcher discussion out of this thread, I just had to correct this point. Steam's standard cut is 30%, not 10%. And as much as I enjoy using Steam, I can understand why publishers are moving away from them over this factor.
Yeah, I was watching someone play this, and it didn't take long to realize that there is no challenge to belt routing. You can just go over the mess.
I used to think I wanted Factorio 3D, but now I think I want Factorio with RTS-style 3D graphics. 3D, but constrained into a 2D plain.
How much content is there currently in the game? Even Factorio didn't really get great until 0.12ish, so I'm wondering whether this is worth checking out now, or if one is better off waiting a year or so for bugs to get fixed and more depth to be added?
Game needs a vertical conveyor.
Yeah, I was watching someone play this, and it didn't take long to realize that there is no challenge to belt routing. You can just go over the mess.
I used to think I wanted Factorio 3D, but now I think I want Factorio with RTS-style 3D graphics. 3D, but constrained into a 2D plain.
A much bigger factor to factory simplification imo is that splitters do not wait for each output before moving on to the next. This means that if one output lane gets backed up, the other lanes will continue feeding, and thus perfect balancing is not required. Though efficient design is it's own reward, so you can do it anyway.
I bought the game on Steam a few days ago, and I'm having fun.
Just switched my factory's power source from Biofuel to Coal.
Now I need to focus on Steel production, hopefully my new power plants will be able to manage that.
And no, I have not gone crazy with everything yet. Just a modest factory setup, for now.
Biofuel is a tier below coal in this game. And upgrading from iron to steel is a must if you want to make nay progress beyond the beginner stages.I bought the game on Steam a few days ago, and I'm having fun.
Just switched my factory's power source from Biofuel to Coal.
Now I need to focus on Steel production, hopefully my new power plants will be able to manage that.
And no, I have not gone crazy with everything yet. Just a modest factory setup, for now.
Isn't switching from Biofuel to Coal and focusing on Steel production counter-productive?