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Quote from: Babylon on January 18, 2013, 03:28:42 pm

I think this belongs in the suggestions section.

Not particularly, it's not a suggestion. It's a question.

And a suggestion at the same time.

From my observations, dwarves have only one job in mind, and when that's finished, they decide what job to do next. That's why it gets irritating when they get interrupted by animals. I'm not sure what the priority is, but party seems to be right up the top, and clean right down the bottom (I've seen it happen like twice).

But.... why? If someone wants to use an obvious exploit to train their dwarves extra fast, that's their call.  It's a single player game, who cares if people want to cheat?
If you use legitimate training methods, the experience gain is quite slow.  It's not as if you can accidentally exploit the system as it is now, you really have to go out of your way.

That said, your suggestion doesn't seem entirely unreasonable, it just seems like it wouldn't impact people playing the game normally.  I don't see the point of making a change just to stop training exploits.

This.

If people want to use exploits, then go ahead. That's why we still have Dwarven Atom Smashers. Until we get online leaderboards or something, there's no incentive for Toady to fix exploits when he can use that time to add new features.

If you attack the caravan dwarves (you can do that), then it breaks the friendliness mechanics of the game, and all the dwarves in your fortress start attacking each other, it's quite amusing really. That's the closest to attacking a specific dwarf that you can get.

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My understanding from what Toady wrote re: APIs was that he didn't want to make them because then when he changed the API (as he would be guaranteed to do), people wouldn't use the new version of DF because their cool toys don't work with it. Reading between the lines, Toady doesn't particularly like DF Hack et al. but he tolerates them because there's not much else he can do, plus he's not the sort of person to obfusticate the memory just to stop it.

From that, I can see how it would benefit Toady to add Dwarf Foreman and stuff into the game, but given that we have existing utilities to do it right now, I see no reason why Toady should duplicate effort, especially since I think that the interface of Dwarf Therapist is far better than it could be if it was integrated into Dwarf Fortress. Also, having it separate allows for it to be continually developed alongside all of Toady's work, instead of giving him something else to do on top of everything else.

Right now, in Dwarf Therapist, I can sort by dwarves in several different ways, and then look at a glance what they are assigned to do and what their skills are, as well as if they are idle or not, the windows interface is particularly suited to this.

It has been suggested multiple times to make rooms more like zones. IIRC Toady has plans to make rooms more like hospitals in future.

The reason that hospitals are zones is that they are a more recent addition, so Toady made them that way, and hasn't retro-coded it in for bedrooms etc.

It has also been suggested to make workshops designated in the same way.

It sounds feasible for dwarves to do this, even if it is more modern, so I reckon we should add it in.
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