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Title: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: PTTG?? on February 14, 2018, 02:39:56 pm
http://store.steampowered.com/app/382310/Eco/

Standard I-didn't-make-this disclaimer.

There's definitely something to be said for this game. It's oddly compelling just from the crafting perspective, has an actual non-ugly aesthetic, and the long-term goal of not getting destroyed by an asteroid gives the building, mining, and crafting a nice sense of direction.

Forsaken1111 is setting up a server. PM them for server and discord access.

The server is "Bay12 Eco Server."
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. Server perhaps?
Post by: Kagus on February 14, 2018, 03:42:34 pm
I remember reading about this way back before it was actually released into open Early Access, and was intrigued by the concept of "Minecraft, but with climate and ecosystem simulation". The concept of having a multiplayer community try and balance expansion with pollution and resource management struck me as a very interesting and also hysterically doomed idea.

The addition of the meteor struck me as... Rather tacked-on. From what I've read, the timer is also quite unforgiving and can't be adjusted. I've also head some complaints about the skill system, calling it a bit too restrictive in that it effectively limits players to specific niches if they want to get anything done. Not much an independent player can do on his own. I mean, that could be quite fun; I've always liked "communal" games in the sense of multiple cogs working together to achieve something greater. I guess I'm just not used to Minecraft being one of those games, heh.

But it's really just conjecture, as I haven't actually played it myself as of yet.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. Server perhaps?
Post by: forsaken1111 on February 14, 2018, 03:53:09 pm
Space Engineers tried meteor storms as a game mechanic. It never added much interesting gameplay, just punshed progress because the safest thing to do was to sit quietly in a cave
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. Server perhaps?
Post by: xaritscin on February 14, 2018, 03:53:24 pm
think i saw this in IndieDB some years ago. didnt know they had actually put in Steam, it has grown well it seems.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. Server perhaps?
Post by: Folly on February 14, 2018, 05:05:28 pm
So it's a Minecraft clone with 30-day world cycles, and strong incentives to interact and cooperate with your community as you work towards common goals so that you can 'win' when your cycle ends.

Neat.
The $30 price tag feels a bit high for an Early Access small-developer game...but the reviews look solid, so I could get into it if there was enough interest from this community.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. Server perhaps?
Post by: PTTG?? on February 14, 2018, 08:04:24 pm
The asteroid timer can be modified. I find it an interesting idea -- save the environment from an asteroid without destroying the environment. It's not random; it's 30 days by default. It doesn't end the game outright (although it does ruin the ecology).

Apparently there are other ideas in the pipeline, too. Currently there's no real combat (there's hunting, but none of the animals are threats yet), but there are apparently plans for other existential threats. I for one would find it interesting to start in an ice age.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. Server perhaps?
Post by: Vivalas on February 14, 2018, 10:03:08 pm
Huh this looks really cool. The economic side is extremely interesting though, what with creating currency and such. I kinda wanna play it just to become an evil rich dictator and doom the world.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. Server perhaps?
Post by: PTTG?? on February 14, 2018, 10:19:47 pm
Well I'm OK with anything as long as its a good story. I'll set something up this evening.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. Server perhaps?
Post by: Android on February 14, 2018, 11:52:46 pm
i might be inclined to give this a try with you all. PTW
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. Server perhaps?
Post by: FakerFangirl on February 15, 2018, 12:07:13 am
It's a nice game. I might play again but I have no friends and it really is a co-op.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. Server perhaps?
Post by: Mephisto on February 15, 2018, 01:22:18 am
Hey, Eco thread. Just what I've been waiting for. If there were a server, I would probably play on it. I'll throw out an offer to host as well if PTTG?? ends up unable to.

I'm curious if you gain skill points while offline. In a single player setting, you're playing for all 720 hours. Multiplayer, you're not.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. Server perhaps?
Post by: deoloth on February 15, 2018, 07:34:02 am
I haven't played it since early alpha, so any knowledge I have may now be incorrect.

Skill points were slowly gained over time, but you had to eat to maintain the rate at which you got them. More nutritious food, the better the skill gain.

Multiplayer is balanced so it would be hard for someone to be able to do everything skillwise, I think singleplayer is the same way at the moment but is getting rebalanced looking at the current patch notes.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. Server perhaps?
Post by: LoSboccacc on February 15, 2018, 07:48:41 am
how's singleplayer? this seems at it's core a collaborative game.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. Server perhaps?
Post by: Mephisto on February 15, 2018, 08:28:37 am
Quote from: LoSboccacc on February 15, 2018, 07:48:41 am
how's singleplayer? this seems at it's core a collaborative game.

Kind of tedious. It's basically multiplayer without the other people, and the server is only running when you're playing.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. Server perhaps?
Post by: Ygdrad on February 15, 2018, 09:17:35 am
I played this with friends in the past, and unfortunately, probably won't be playing more of it unless they make some pretty big changes. The whole real-time skillpoint gain(like in eve online) system ruins it for some of us. You'd hop on the server, do whatever work you need to do to make sure others have what they need for today, spend skillpoints, and then you have no purpose, there's nothing to do because nothing you do past what's needed means anything since progress is real-time. Without the skill system you blow right through everything in no time flat, it only serves to stretch out what little content the game has. It doesn't feel like a real game, aside from maybe building for the sake of building, there's no reason to do anything once you've met your quota, feels like those limited daily playtime korean or cellphone games with artificial minecraft flavoring. :/

Even the whole premise, eco-friendliness, doesn't matter too much. Since you've got no reason to over-produce, unless you're on some server with a ridiculous amount of people, you're not really going to wreck the planet as long as you don't do anything obviously stupid like completely strip the world of a certain plant. Speaking of stupid, pollution code is linked to the block coordinate system. Once we found out the smithing byproducts that were sent to a stockpile were spreading pollution through the ground, we tried a few things and it seems that if you put it in a cart, it stops affecting the world since the cart is not a block and therefore not part of its coordinate system. The carts were getting filled up and would be in the way so what did we end up doing? We dumped them all into a deep river with no adverse effect... :|
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. Server perhaps?
Post by: PTTG?? on February 15, 2018, 02:03:14 pm
I suppose it encourages megaprojects. I was just thinking that it might be nice to run a server with the goal of building a dwarfy fort. Beards mandatory, of course.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. Server perhaps?
Post by: MrRoboto75 on February 15, 2018, 03:52:15 pm
Seems interesting, but I already have Factorio
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: PTTG?? on February 17, 2018, 02:06:29 pm
Test server is up and running. The intention is to make sure the tech works, to get a group of players together, and to experiment with the game.

Later, I intend to restart the server and/or move it to a better internet connection. Along the way, we'll probably add a mod or two (clay's toolkit?) and set up some baseline rules.

As of now, the server is in anarchy mode and it's a very large 200x200.

PM me for access info, I'll be back in an hour or two.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Sensei on February 17, 2018, 04:24:10 pm
I picked this up, I may appear on the server.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on February 17, 2018, 05:45:02 pm
I'll probably show up at some point. This is a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: PTTG?? on February 17, 2018, 08:57:54 pm
We've been having a bit of trouble getting it to work. The ports seem to be open on my end. I'll look more into it.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on February 17, 2018, 09:10:50 pm
Quote from: PTTG?? on February 17, 2018, 08:57:54 pm
We've been having a bit of trouble getting it to work. The ports seem to be open on my end. I'll look more into it.
Yeah I'm unable to connect
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: PTTG?? on February 17, 2018, 10:03:22 pm
I see you on the log, but you're the only one.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on February 17, 2018, 10:09:42 pm
Quote from: PTTG?? on February 17, 2018, 10:03:22 pm
I see you on the log, but you're the only one.
I tried a few times to connect. It sat at 'entering world' for a while then dropped me back to main menu
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: PTTG?? on February 17, 2018, 10:29:02 pm
Crap, likely my network isn't up to it. I'll look into other options. The server's still up for the time being but looks like it doesn't work. Feel free to test it.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on February 17, 2018, 10:58:19 pm
I can host one instead if people are interested. I have a fairly good host machine available.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: PTTG?? on February 18, 2018, 03:30:16 am
Sounds good to me. What's your internet like?
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: kilakan on February 18, 2018, 04:27:46 am
If yall get a server rolling and you seem to be having fun I'll buy the game and join most likely.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on February 18, 2018, 10:10:12 am
Quote from: PTTG?? on February 18, 2018, 03:30:16 am
Sounds good to me. What's your internet like?
Ridiculuously fast.

Quote from: kilakan on February 18, 2018, 04:27:46 am
If yall get a server rolling and you seem to be having fun I'll buy the game and join most likely.
I'll look into setting one up today.

I'll work out the settings. For now just PM me and I'll invite you to a discord we can use to chat. I believe there is a way to link the discord and server as well.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Mephisto on February 18, 2018, 12:48:38 pm
Forsaken and I played for a bit. I'm just tooling around with the tutorial again but I'm already liking the map more than the one in my singleplayer world.

While trying to get to Forsaken's place from my spawn point, I fell into a canyon. Twice. It's kind of hard to navigate at night.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Folly on February 18, 2018, 02:39:10 pm
So do we have a new server up yet?

When PTTG's server fell through yesterday, I jumped on some random empty server and murdered a few trees and dug some tunnels to get a feel for the basics. Definitely looking forward to starting for real now.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on February 18, 2018, 02:48:39 pm
We do. We could really use someone speccing hunting or farming or something too because food is becoming an issue
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: PTTG?? on February 19, 2018, 01:24:10 am
Well my Internet has been down for the last 12+ hours...
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on February 19, 2018, 01:31:03 am
Quote from: PTTG?? on February 19, 2018, 01:24:10 am
Well my Internet has been down for the last 12+ hours...
sorry to hear that. We got a lot done on day one. I just logged out to go to bed actually
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: deoloth on February 20, 2018, 12:48:22 am
I wouldn't mind giving it a try. Don't think Ive played Eco since Alpha 3 or 4. Likely not going to be around this weekend though, but after that i'll try to tackle any shortfalls going on in the world.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Shooer on February 20, 2018, 02:47:33 am
I have built a mint and created the server's first currency.  I have named it Shooer Coin and is trending well in the subterranean markets.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Shooer on February 20, 2018, 10:13:11 pm
Someone tried to start up a new currency to surpass Shooer Coins.  I now control the majority of this currency as well.  You can call me the Coaletariat.

Forsaken you need to get back on and mint more money if you want other people to use it.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Mephisto on February 20, 2018, 11:29:12 pm
Version 7.2.0 is going to be coming out ~March 6. We'll probably have blown the meteor out of the sky by then. Looks like it brings a lot of neat things, though.

Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on February 21, 2018, 06:08:33 am
Quote from: Shooer on February 20, 2018, 10:13:11 pm
Someone tried to start up a new currency to surpass Shooer Coins.  I now control the majority of this currency as well.  You can call me the Coaletariat.

Forsaken you need to get back on and mint more money if you want other people to use it.
I minted some more this morning for continued circulation.

Quote from: Mephisto on February 20, 2018, 11:29:12 pm
Version 7.2.0 is going to be coming out ~March 6. We'll probably have blown the meteor out of the sky by then. Looks like it brings a lot of neat things, though.

  • Massive worlds. Ours is ~.5km2. The new version should support close to 16km2.
  • Stat collection, meaning we can bog things down with bureaucracy.
  • Mods, though it'll probably be a while before they start coming out.
neat! For the new server I'll probably up the collaboration setting so its much more difficult to be a jack of all trades. For this server I wasn't sure what our population would look like so I didn't want to over do it on difficulty. If we have a core of 3-5 people who play often we can set it to low/medium collaboration and still cover most things between us, though it will take longer.

Next time I'd also like us to plan out a town and be less spread out if possible.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Niveras on February 21, 2018, 10:57:23 am
Interesting concept, to have a survival gameplay with an actual goal.

I wonder if it would be possible to mod in more fantastical elements as well as further survival goals, working it into something like Terraria's hardmode after defeating the wall of flesh. Don't bother with combat/adventure, but maybe some exploration elements into something like the corruption, enticement perhaps being necessary resources to unlock research.

Damn this interface, though. Why allow you to move all the elements except the hotbar? At least the chat window can be hidden. Didn't think to check how limited the keybinding options are.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on February 21, 2018, 11:19:31 am
Next version is supposed to be the start of mod support so it's possible we'll get a nice robust modding scene.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Knave on February 21, 2018, 11:31:43 am
This game is on my radar, and would love to join the bay12 gang once I've purchased!
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Ultimuh on February 21, 2018, 11:32:40 am
Quote from: Knave on February 21, 2018, 11:31:43 am
This game is on my radar, and would love to join the bay12 gang once I've purchased!
I'm on the same boat. I may be able to get it by next week, if not the week after.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on February 21, 2018, 12:05:11 pm
well I guarantee there will be more servers. I like the game a lot
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Sensei on February 21, 2018, 04:37:50 pm
Yes, I look forward to a new server. Right now Shooer has already done everything there is to do so it feels pointless to make your own stuff. :P

Since it seems we have some good interest in this we can probably do a server with lower skill point gain.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Folly on February 21, 2018, 05:11:52 pm
I'd be in for a lower skill-gain server.
I've learned a lot about farming this first time, and am confident I could get things set up more quickly and efficiently next time.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on February 21, 2018, 05:18:56 pm
I want to wait until the next version for a reset, at a minimum. I'd like to be more organized as well, so we could sign up for roles and specializations early so we don't overlap too much. Would anyone like to volunteer to be the labor foreman? We'll need someone to organize everything.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Sinlessmoon on February 21, 2018, 07:44:14 pm
I wouldn't mind joining as well! Seems like fun.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: deoloth on February 22, 2018, 10:39:05 am
My brother is on a trip, but he will likely join in soon. So you can add him to your potential population number.

I kinda think we could do with skill gain on normal, would encourage us more to decorate our homes to increase skill gain as well, plus as far as I can tell we are not even using contracts.

I would not mind if we get a little bit of a bigger world. Maybe up it to 1km or 1.5km?

I would like a central town/city, good for area's of commerce, but generally I make a point to setup a bit out of the way. We could have people a fair bit out of town establish contracts to connect roads to them, once we get a standard currency going.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on February 22, 2018, 12:41:10 pm
The next version of the game is coming soonish and will bring much larger worlds. I'll be standing up a new server at that time with more conservative skill gain as we'll have a larger population
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: QuakeIV on February 23, 2018, 01:10:23 pm
Thats literally two weeks, I'd personally like to see such a server to bridge the gap in the mean time, if anyone else is up for hosting such a thing.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on February 23, 2018, 01:27:49 pm
Quote from: QuakeIV on February 23, 2018, 01:10:23 pm
Thats literally two weeks, I'd personally like to see such a server to bridge the gap in the mean time, if anyone else is up for hosting such a thing.
We're essentially done at this point anyway. Is there any objection to my resetting the current server? I'll set it to medium collaboration for us to try that and mess around with until next version
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Sensei on February 23, 2018, 02:04:30 pm
I would be fine with resetting it. Medium or even high collaboration. Also, is it possible to turn up the effects of pollution? It seems pretty ignorable right now, like it's hard to have it affect much more than just your property.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on February 23, 2018, 02:07:34 pm
Quote from: Sensei on February 23, 2018, 02:04:30 pm
I would be fine with resetting it. Medium or even high collaboration. Also, is it possible to turn up the effects of pollution? It seems pretty ignorable right now, like it's hard to have it affect much more than just your property.
I will take a look at the settings and see.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Folly on February 23, 2018, 02:50:21 pm
I would be fine with an interim reset...though I'd hope we can blast the meteor first.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: QuakeIV on February 23, 2018, 03:13:36 pm
Oh yes.  I suggest we configure the meteor to hit shortly before the next version is scheduled to release, if possible.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Sensei on February 23, 2018, 04:07:41 pm
I'm in favor of the meteor hitting shortly before the update. Even if we fail, I wanna see what it looks like when the meteor hits. :D
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on February 24, 2018, 09:28:51 am
The server has been reset to allow some people to play during the interim. Consider it a challenge mode. Meteor will impact in 9 days
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: etgfrog on February 24, 2018, 04:59:56 pm
Is there any downside to not having calories besides not getting skillpoints? I'm mainly thinking you could run around for a few hours with a broken axe and no calories then once everything is set for a while, eat then go offline.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on February 24, 2018, 05:37:25 pm
Quote from: etgfrog on February 24, 2018, 04:59:56 pm
Is there any downside to not having calories besides not getting skillpoints? I'm mainly thinking you could run around for a few hours with a broken axe and no calories then once everything is set for a while, eat then go offline.
Once your calories hit zero you cannot work at all. Swinging the axe will just give the message "You are too hungry to work"
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Folly on February 24, 2018, 05:51:42 pm
Calories are just energy you consume when doing any action. They are part of the same system that generates skill points, but the calories themselves have no direct effect on skill points.

Each time you eat, your stomach's nutritional values average closer to the nutritional values of what you are eating. Daily skill point gains are based on the sum of your nutritional values, multiplied by how well balanced the 4 nutritional categories are, and then adjusted by the server's skill gain rate. So to get the most skill points possible you need to focus on eating both high-nutrient foods and a balanced variety of foods. In particular this should be done before you log off for a while.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Sensei on March 02, 2018, 05:56:43 pm
We may consider, for the next server, making the password publicly available at the top of the thread or something. That will get more people in without complete randos who just saw the game on the server browser. Then we can have more people to participate in the economy and such.

I also recommend we make good use of the law system to limit the server to just one kind of currency early on. I'm not completely clear how the law interface works, but I bet it's possible to elect someone as treasurer and prevent anyone else from minting currency. Otherwise maybe we can just make our first currency and then prevent anyone from creating a new currency.

On that note, is there a trick to proposing laws? I've been trying to propose a law on the current server which designates a district just to try it out, but it keeps telling me the form isn't completely filled and I can't tell why.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Shooer on March 03, 2018, 03:16:39 am
Quote from: Sensei on March 02, 2018, 05:56:43 pm
On that note, is there a trick to proposing laws? I've been trying to propose a law on the current server which designates a district just to try it out, but it keeps telling me the form isn't completely filled and I can't tell why.
It's broke, that's why.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Kagus on March 03, 2018, 05:20:09 am
Quote from: Shooer on March 03, 2018, 03:16:39 am
Quote from: Sensei on March 02, 2018, 05:56:43 pm
On that note, is there a trick to proposing laws? I've been trying to propose a law on the current server which designates a district just to try it out, but it keeps telling me the form isn't completely filled and I can't tell why.
It's broke, that's why.
Honestly, that sounds pretty realistic to me...
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on March 03, 2018, 08:27:34 am
Quote from: Sensei on March 02, 2018, 05:56:43 pm
We may consider, for the next server, making the password publicly available at the top of the thread or something. That will get more people in without complete randos who just saw the game on the server browser. Then we can have more people to participate in the economy and such.
Agreed, I will post the info and discord publically here next time. With all of the protections the game has for property, it would be difficult for someone to mess it up for everyone or troll intentionally.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: QuakeIV on March 03, 2018, 02:55:34 pm
You can only propose laws if you don't have the default citizenship law (which is the bug).  This came up a couple times in discord but nobody did anything about it.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: deoloth on March 06, 2018, 08:38:28 pm
Looks like the patch just hit.

Quote
Solar Generator cost changed from (1 steel) to (15 steel, 5 servos, 5 circuits)
Wind Turbine cost changed from (10 iron) to (20 steel, 10 gearboxes, 10 circuits)
Thats going to take a bit longer, lol.

Fair bit of other notes, plus lots of plant life changes. Players will also start with the basic tools in their bag instead of gaining through the tutorial.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: QuakeIV on March 07, 2018, 12:07:28 am
Handy.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Mephisto on March 07, 2018, 09:01:12 am
If the new server is going up soon, it looks like the server side is still in beta and requires opting in.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on March 07, 2018, 04:25:56 pm
Quote from: Mephisto on March 07, 2018, 09:01:12 am
If the new server is going up soon, it looks like the server side is still in beta and requires opting in.
I'm working on it now. Are you joining us in the new server? You're welcome to, I wasn't sure why you left
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Mephisto on March 07, 2018, 04:43:50 pm
Quote from: forsaken1111 on March 07, 2018, 04:25:56 pm
I'm working on it now. Are you joining us in the new server? You're welcome to, I wasn't sure why you left

No, I've kind of gotten sucked into other things. Thanks.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on March 07, 2018, 04:50:05 pm
Quote from: Mephisto on March 07, 2018, 04:43:50 pm
Quote from: forsaken1111 on March 07, 2018, 04:25:56 pm
I'm working on it now. Are you joining us in the new server? You're welcome to, I wasn't sure why you left

No, I've kind of gotten sucked into other things. Thanks.
No worries. You're welcome back later if you decide to rejoin.

Anyone else who wants to join, you can. Just PM me for the details
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on March 07, 2018, 08:00:17 pm
Anyone who had joined the server, we had to reset with a smaller map. Despite the update's claims of optimizations and the ability to run up to 16km maps, it lagged too badly even on a 9km map. We dropped it down to 4km and it is back up now.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Shooer on March 08, 2018, 04:17:19 am
Quote from: forsaken1111 on March 07, 2018, 08:00:17 pm
it is back up now.
Or is it?

The Tomato Commune shall continue on in this new smaller world.  It can not be stopped.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on March 08, 2018, 04:41:08 am
Quote from: Shooer on March 08, 2018, 04:17:19 am
Quote from: forsaken1111 on March 07, 2018, 08:00:17 pm
it is back up now.
Or is it?

The Tomato Commune shall continue on in this new smaller world.  It can not be stopped.
It was! It crashed at some point last night but is back up for now.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Sensei on March 08, 2018, 02:18:05 pm
Right now there seems to be an issue which causes desyncs quite regularly. I hope it gets fixed soon.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Dorsidwarf on March 11, 2018, 09:40:24 am
Kilian experience did a video on Eco  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8qEStF1H8Y)

"Now this may seem very similar to another mine...crafting game, but that is the point. They have recycled."
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Shooer on March 13, 2018, 01:09:59 am
I started a house, turned into a tower.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I've learned that building things high is buggy, in various ways.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Ultimuh on March 13, 2018, 03:14:20 pm
Bought the game.
So.. Now what?


edit: Seriously though, I'm going to familiarize myself with the game.
But please tell me whenever a decent server is up, I'd love to join.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Sensei on March 13, 2018, 04:36:55 pm
Go ahead and join "Bay12 Eco Server", I'll take the liberty of PMing you the password. Now, we really ought to have that in the OP, eh PTTG?
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Folly on March 15, 2018, 11:28:50 pm
I'm getting 'Incompatible Version' when trying to join the server?

Also, a look at upcoming vehicles. (http://www.strangeloopgames.com/eco-report-3-new-vehicle-list/)
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Ultimuh on March 15, 2018, 11:32:17 pm
Yeah, the game updated not too long ago.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: etgfrog on March 27, 2018, 09:53:55 pm
Ok, if you didn't get to see it, have a few screenshots

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Gabeux on March 29, 2018, 03:52:40 pm
Spoilers, man.  :P

I bought this 2 days ago and I enjoy it. Devs seem interested in making a fun game, and I can tolerate it a lot more than Wurm Unlimited, a billion times more than Wurm Online, makes more sense to me than playing multiplayer Minecraft in random servers (which I never did, actually), and overall I like it more than similar games.


I'm currently playing on this server (https://ecoservers.io/server/584/), just because it had the most players with the earliest day.
It'll soon get wiped and start over and I might hop back in there. Very High Specialization, nice folks.
But if Bay12 gets populated and active it would be great too.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on March 29, 2018, 04:48:11 pm
Quote from: Gabeux on March 29, 2018, 03:52:40 pm
But if Bay12 gets populated and active it would be great too.
They just completed killing the meteor on the bay12 server. :P

I could restart it though. There's a discord and everything, for coordination
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Gabeux on March 29, 2018, 04:54:47 pm
Oh really? For some reason I had the impression it was not very active, sorry.  :-X

Can you send me the Discord so I can keep informed? Is it Low Spec/High Spec and runs any mods?  :P
I'm 3 days into the game so I'm kind of a noob, but I did manage to get settled and find my way around a crazy high pop server.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Khan Boyzitbig on March 29, 2018, 05:22:37 pm
I've been looking at a few vids of this and think I will grab it soon to come explore a few servers. I know there will always be room for gatherers and I like digging holes so chances are thats where I would start myself if I come and join in the fun.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Folly on March 29, 2018, 05:41:48 pm
I get the impression that the Bay12 community is a bit burned out after the last 3 worlds. At least until the next significant content patch comes along.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on March 29, 2018, 07:03:33 pm
Quote from: Gabeux on March 29, 2018, 04:54:47 pm
Oh really? For some reason I had the impression it was not very active, sorry.  :-X

Can you send me the Discord so I can keep informed? Is it Low Spec/High Spec and runs any mods?  :P
I'm 3 days into the game so I'm kind of a noob, but I did manage to get settled and find my way around a crazy high pop server.
We didn't have any mods running but the host is pretty high spec. I'll give you the discord info.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Gabeux on March 30, 2018, 02:24:24 am
Oh sorry to mislead you forsaken, for some reason I picked up the silly server slang. Was asking about in-game High Specialization or Low Specialization, basically is skill gained slowly, normally or fast?
And thanks for the invite!
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on March 30, 2018, 03:54:50 am
Quote from: Gabeux on March 30, 2018, 02:24:24 am
Oh sorry to mislead you forsaken, for some reason I picked up the silly server slang. Was asking about in-game High Specialization or Low Specialization, basically is skill gained slowly, normally or fast?
And thanks for the invite!
The server that is up now uses the medium collaboration setting so the skill gain is I guess moderate. I didn't customize the skill numbers beyond the preset except to add a very low (0.001 or so) skill point gain on craft time to reward people for making stuff.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Gabeux on March 30, 2018, 11:09:04 am
Oh that's great, then. I played on Very High Collaboration, and you really have to be in the mood to play like that.. It becomes more like Wurm Online in which you have to invest it all in doing 1-2 things for DAYS if you want to progress with any speed, and if no one is online to restock the stuff you need, you'll waste a lot of time and resources..

Once server resets I'll join up (and bring gf if that's alright).  :D
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on March 30, 2018, 03:54:38 pm
Sure, bring whoever you want. I'll go ahead and reset the server tonight when I can as it doesn't look like many people are getting on any more, will post here and on discord when it is up.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Ultimuh on March 30, 2018, 06:02:11 pm
I might join it at some point.
Just don't expect me to pick skills that's needed though.
People seem to be able to get things done way ahead of me any way.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Gabeux on April 04, 2018, 03:59:04 pm
I'm having a blast with this game, I'm impressed there's not even more DF players on it. I'm still a damn noob, thats what I get for playing on very high specialization [minimal skill point gain] server.
I'm still interested in joining forsaken and bay12 server when/if people go back to it, but I got in too deep in the current playthrough.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Gabeux on April 05, 2018, 02:55:42 pm
Soooo I became a mod for the game's Discord almost at the same time as I was confirming the purchase of my Developer Founder Pack.
With devpack it means I can at least giveaway one copy here, but I'd really prefer for it to be for someone who's into it and won't forget about it a second after getting it.  ::)

As I find my way around all the new stuff that exploded in my face, and try to find out how to actually send someone a copy through the website, I'm announcing the giveaway already.
I'll use random.org as usual around 9 AM PST [13 PM BRT to me], hopefully by then I can quickly give it out.  :P

And of course you'd be free to join me and my group of players on the server I'm on and having a blast, we'll set you up if you so desire.
I recommend playing singleplayer first otherwise you'll be lost like me.  :P
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Glloyd on April 05, 2018, 03:35:59 pm
I'd certainly be interested Gabeux. I've been following this game since this thread popped up, and would love to play with some people from here. I'm just hesitant about buying into early access games, I've been burned before.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Gabeux on April 05, 2018, 03:43:22 pm
After I spent over 250 USD [which is about 700+ BRL] on this, and if you ever seen my post about sandbox early access games, aand if you trust the opinon of unknown people from the internet...you may have a glimpse that it's worth it.  :P
Definitively not for everyone, by the simple fact its not a PvE or PvP game. But those who like Minecraft and Wurm are bound to like it, if you like both probably bound to like it a lot.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: choppy on April 05, 2018, 05:43:34 pm
I am interested as well. On a side note has there been plans to add other issues to fix besides the meteor? ( like a super volcano?)
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Gabeux on April 05, 2018, 07:36:05 pm
Nice! :D I'm not sure actually, but there's a config/server tab only for Disasters, and the only entry there is the meteor. Same thing applies for atmosphere and other planet/generation parameters, that seem to be moddable or made in a way that more stuff can be added over time and changed/configured.
I haven't looked at any code or informed myself a lot yet, but it's easy to see it's being built from the ground up to make adding more content (through modding or otherwise) easy. Still have to validate this though
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Khan Boyzitbig on April 06, 2018, 06:48:05 am
Had a quick play of Eco just now, played about 37 minutes if the big old rock in the sky is accurate. Although I had to tweak the settings to get a stable FPS (shadows killed it, was getting 6-7 fps when night was falling, turned them down and bam 33fps). Okay All I did was chop a few trees and dig a small hole but I enjoyed that.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Dorsidwarf on April 06, 2018, 07:28:42 am
Quote from: Gabeux on April 05, 2018, 03:43:22 pm
After I spent over 250 USD [which is about 700+ BRL] on this, and if you ever seen my post about sandbox early access games, aand if you trust the opinon of unknown people from the internet...you may have a glimpse that it's worth it.  :P
Definitively not for everyone, by the simple fact its not a PvE or PvP game. But those who like Minecraft and Wurm are bound to like it, if you like both probably bound to like it a lot.

Wait, how did you spend 200+ bucks? Is there micro transaction spam?
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Mephisto on April 06, 2018, 08:18:59 am
https://ecoauth.strangeloopgames.com/home

Supporter editions. There are no microtransactions.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Gabeux on April 06, 2018, 07:38:35 pm
I also accidentally bought one extra copy and donated to the server I play in, in which the server admin does his best to deal with unstable mods that people want to use..which gives him lots of trouble.
To be honest it was probably 210-215 USD , since I pay in BRL I derp when converting.

Also, in celebration of having a blast playing the game due to having accidentally bumped into 2 df players and only discovering about it days later, and in celebration of being a n00b and buying one extra unnecessary copy, I'll be giving away 2 copies.  :P
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: inteuniso on April 06, 2018, 10:04:13 pm
Looks interesting, always has since I first saw it last year/whenever. Once I have built computers for my friends, I will join!
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Glloyd on April 06, 2018, 11:05:42 pm
I've looked into it more since I posted. It seems super interesting. Gabeux, how does the government stuff play out in practice? I can see that being pretty interesting if there was a criminal justice system of some sort implemented. Or even opposing polities. Also, how deep does the simulation go when it comes to pollution? Is there a way to clean up polluted areas? And what kind of impacts does pollution have?
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Gabeux on April 07, 2018, 05:25:24 am
Glloyd, I'll postpone replying reply to you in full because I'm heading to bed, but a couple hours ago I won the world leader election in the server. As an Early Access game, stuff is still placeholder, and there's no government system other than taxes, Treasury&allocation, currency minting and a leader who has power over all that (except minting can be done by the public, every server takes on it differently), but gov system and criminal system are on the roadmap and will be made.

If you are curious what kind of things can happen with the systems that are in place, please just read my declaration of insanity.. government? Here:
https://pastebin.com/yPhh9num (https://pastebin.com/yPhh9num)
Feel like joining in, yet? We have Magic Beans as our currency. And I hold the Mint. In my basement. With an excavator next to it and a crazy dorf digging to the planet core watching it.

Pollution can kill plant life and make the world look horrible, which in turn kills your hope in humanity and the animals, which will in parallel raise co2 levels and cause climate change/greenhouse effect making the sea levels raise which will make the noobs who built houses at the beach to finally take the need of a government serious. It's very deep AND wide for an early access game.

I doubt this works as a singleplayer game, however. Even for 2 player coop, like Wurm Unlimited I had to customize server files to make it make sense. Gameplay still fun, but playing with other people is what it was designed for and shines at. Buying it for singleplayer should be a crime. That just gave me an idea for a law...


Reminder that I'll be giving away two copies of the game in about 6-7 hours. I've stayed up til 7am organizing the government transition so I may wake a little late, but will do the giveaway first thing after waking up via random.org.
Only rule is the default one, no lunatics unless you write a 30 line dissertion about what this game means to you.

EDIT: Turns out I replied to you in full without passing out.
EDIT2: Fixed link
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Gabeux on April 07, 2018, 12:01:23 pm
Too bad I could not get people interested in the giveaway, only Glloyd and choppy joined in so you guys are the winners!

Can you guys pm me the email you want to receive the invite/key?

Also, big apologies because it seems I didn't say, when I announced the giveaway, that I was going to do it Saturday 07th [today], around 9PM PST. Game rekd my sleep and it was a bad overlook...sorry :(
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: choppy on April 07, 2018, 01:12:53 pm
Sweet thanks Gabeux. And try to get some sleep, I have done the whole stay up till 5 get up at 7 and it messes you up quickly. (I am mostly better with my sleeping habits now a days, although I still need to get a consistent time down.)
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Glloyd on April 07, 2018, 04:49:21 pm
Thanks Gabeux! PMing you now. It does sound surprisingly indepth for an Early Access game. I checked out their roadmap too, it looks promising, a lot of it seems like logical extensions of the current systems. I'm excited to try it out.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Gabeux on April 07, 2018, 08:47:05 pm
Sent to both a bit after each messaged me. Hope you guys enjoy it.

Server I play is super unstable, probably because the Ocean is boiling.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Ultimuh on April 10, 2018, 08:40:12 pm
I gotta ask.. Have anyone of you dug down to the planet's core?
If so, is there anything down there? Or do you just.. dig through the planet?
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Glloyd on April 10, 2018, 10:02:46 pm
As far as I've been able to tell, you hit bedrock and can't go any further, similar to Minecraft
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Gabeux on April 14, 2018, 10:53:05 pm
Unless a ramp eat you, then you fall down the planet and if you logoff just at the right moment....you log back in on the other side! Wormholes - unofficial feature confirmed.


Just announcing that the server I play on will go through a wipe very soon, and since I was able to build up a group of around 10 very nice people I met in-game, I'm again going overboard with it and once it wipes, we'll go try to build a city with pre-planned plots and so on..basically I'm trying to gather people to do what those games are designed for: doing cool shit through organization and planning. Last round everyone did what they wanted/thought was best and then we ended up with places looking brutally paved with just enough space for traffic, having to slice houses to make room for roads:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)


I plan on making a video with my AAR on my first playthrough along with adding some bits of a review about the game, if time allows. Will be difficult for me to speak in english on the mic, as it's not my first language and always feel awkward, but oh well..

Here's the server with all the info. Not wiped yet, though: https://ecoservers.io/server/584/
If you behave like a dorf it shouldn't be long until I invite you to the illuminati Glorious Bean Co-Op. If anyone wants to stick together and get a plot of land [5x5] or two (or more) in our city, share resources/crafting/etc, you're invited.

As a leader, economy and organization-wise I base myself on the way Dwarf Fortress goes, with people working together and becoming a self-sufficient group instead of doing everything through currency and capitalism. So the money is used when people within the group don't trust each other to give access to their land, or no one in the group can do a certain thing, so we buy/outsorce it. Ideally though, it's Communism Dwarf Econ. Of course, everyone is free to go do or play with/wherever they want, and they can (and should) have their own private property/house/workshop, since the communal crafting spot will probably eat resources like crazy.

The reason for DF-econ is mostly because capitalism is way too damn slow for my taste at the moment, and probably works better at very high pop very high activity servers. If all Stores are out of Boards and no Carpenter is on, I have to wait 6-24h for it. Not what I want out of the game atm.

hmu on Discord [ Gabeux#1309 ] as I'm on there actively.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Glloyd on April 15, 2018, 03:35:54 pm
Capitalism is way to slow if SP gain is slow and collaboration is high. The server I was playing on had upped the SP gain a bit and was medium collab, and there was a pretty thriving economy. There was even a currency war for a bit, as one currency had runaway inflation, so most people jumped ship to another. I think I'd prefer Dwarf Econ, but it was pretty fun to be the lumber king for a bit.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Gabeux on April 15, 2018, 06:34:07 pm
Join the Bean side Glloyd. Together we shall pollute the planet while taxing the rest of the world.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Gabeux on April 23, 2018, 03:15:10 am
I made a video about the current state of the playthrough, in which we destroyed the meteor in 6 days under very high specialization settings.
Lots of first times for me (had never done a video with voice and so on) so don't expect much. Here is it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPVvtG560I0).  :D
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Gabeux on April 28, 2018, 06:14:19 pm
Wiping and launching my first server ever, with my own modpack of sorts.

Server info here (https://ecoservers.io/server/3457).
Server Discord here (https://discord.gg/9UWRBBH).

Will also stop posting since no one here seems interested in poor Eco.  :P
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: forsaken1111 on April 28, 2018, 08:47:03 pm
It isn't that I'm not interested, just that the game needs a lot more work before it is complete. There is very little challenge to it right now.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Folly on April 28, 2018, 10:04:27 pm
Quote from: Gabeux on April 28, 2018, 06:14:19 pm
Will also stop posting since no one here seems interested in poor Eco.  :P

I'm definitely still interested...it's just that a bunch of us did 3 worlds back to back last month, and I'm kinda burned out. Looking at the planned features though, I fully intend to come back at a later date.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Glloyd on April 28, 2018, 11:02:58 pm
Quote from: Gabeux on April 28, 2018, 06:14:19 pm
Wiping and launching my first server ever, with my own modpack of sorts.

Server info here (https://ecoservers.io/server/3457).
Server Discord here (https://discord.gg/9UWRBBH).

Will also stop posting since no one here seems interested in poor Eco.  :P

I think many of us are interested, just waiting for more updates before playing more. Personally, I'm waiting for the vehicles update to hop back in since the server I was playing on was wiped recently.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Gabeux on April 28, 2018, 11:50:52 pm
Makes sense folks. I'll probably wait for a week after 7.4 [Vehicle update] hits sometime next week, so mods update and I have time to update my own.  :)
If you guys played 3 rounds, so yeah I can see why you took a break!  :D
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: quinnr on April 29, 2018, 01:31:56 am
Hey, played a bit when this was first released but kind of backed out since it was just so buggy, at least on my end (falling through ground regularly and having to reconnect, government and graphs flat out not working, general lag spikes), and was a bit curious how it was looking now that we're a bit further out from the initial release. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Gabeux on April 29, 2018, 02:42:57 am
Well I've put 4-5 full days "modding" [simple changes, but lots of files] and integrating mods to make my own modpack, so I can say its pretty fun and engaging.
There's still some rough edges, but takes a good while to bump into a bug. They are also hiring/implementing some sort of QA process so it seems that its getting less buggier.
I've been reporting bugs and issues and one of my reports was fixed in a day and released on the minor patch that was released on the next. So I'm all okay.

Graphs not working I dunno, you can check mine here (http://4.31.168.78:28200/).. If you were on a MP server, might have been because the server admin disable the graphs [aka stat-tracking] because it's a common workaround for db issues (that causes instabilities and kicks/disconnects or crash loops), although my server has been running for around 3 days with plenty of mods and some people trying to break it purposefully and no issues.

What I do agree is that the needs more content. They said they plan on adding more content every 2 weeks.
After 3 good runs I'm pretty sure one will have seen what there is to be seen. But I'm 250h+  in  (played 2 full playthroughs and 2 halfway through it) and I still have fun.
Of course, a lot of that is probably due to me being interested in taking part of the development very closely, even reading the source code so maybe one day I can make my own decent mods or even features/fixes.
Definitely not everyone's cup of tea, but definitely worth a try for those who like Minecraft / Wurm or even DF, given that I'm pretty sure they based the way population pools work from DF.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Khan Boyzitbig on April 29, 2018, 03:25:24 am
The server I go on only has trouble about a week into gameplay after people have built large homes and mines. Economy viewer is the worst though, pretty much the first to lag to a standstill.
Its a fun game but the devs need to do a lot more work if a server is to last beyond the meteor's destruction. Corrupted chunks cause some real issues too.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Glloyd on April 29, 2018, 04:41:03 am
Yeah, we had an issue that whenever the server would restart, any cart that had been recently moved would duplicate, and you would be unable to remove it. There's definitely a lot of bugfixing to do.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Folly on June 14, 2018, 11:29:53 pm
First Vehicle Update (https://www.strangeloopgames.com/eco-report-5-eco-first-stage-of-vehicle-update-is-released/) is out! Pickup truck, hand-plough, and skid-steer are now things. Also garbage piles!
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: PTTG?? on June 15, 2018, 01:28:31 am
Would not have expected finally being able to drop unwanted items to be as important as it is.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Urist McScoopbeard on June 15, 2018, 09:13:47 am
Are there NPCs in this game, or is all o the back of the players?
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Folly on June 15, 2018, 09:29:15 am
Only NPC's are the critters you can hunt.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Ultimuh on June 26, 2018, 08:22:31 pm
https://ecoauth.strangeloopgames.com/changelog

Oooh, an update!


edit: It has updated again, is the server still on or have we moved on from this game?
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Gabeux on July 23, 2018, 01:28:10 am
More updates :)

My server is still up (https://ecoservers.io/server/3457/) (although it's a public one) and I just updated my modpack (https://eco-mods.com/resources/glorious-bean-modpack.69/).
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Kruniac on July 24, 2018, 07:29:31 pm
This game shows some real promise. The idea of the server being wiped, either by solving the issue or by the planet being destroyed, is great by itself, but the eco system thing really makes this game unique.

It's a bitch to play solo, I'll tell you that.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: PTTG?? on January 26, 2019, 03:30:10 pm
There's been a couple of updates, and 0.8 is coming out on the 6th.

I've been thinking it'd be nice to get back into it. I spent a lot of time in the vaguely medieval age, it'd be nice to spend some time in a more contemporary era. Maybe to see a more citylike approach rather than a lot of distant compounds.
Title: Re: Eco. Minecraft made by Germans. SERVER INDEED!
Post by: Folly on January 26, 2019, 04:18:11 pm
I have been itching to try out that tractor...
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: PTTG?? on January 29, 2019, 04:51:43 pm
Liquid Nitrogen is produced from nothing but steel (presumably because it's condensed from air into the can). It is technically a food, and according to the wiki  (https://eco.gamepedia.com/Liquid_Nitrogen)provides 0 of every nutrient... but 10 calories.

Since your skill gain is based on the balance of what you've already eaten, does that mean that you can just sit there and drink a lot of liquid nitrogen and stay at level health? There's a couple other things, but this seems to be the only one that uses purely inorganic resources.

I made a spreadsheet. Of the normal, working foods, Stuffed Turkey has the most even nutrient distribution per calorie, so you can fill up quick without trashing your balance. Charred Tomato is the low-rent equivalent.
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: Glloyd on January 29, 2019, 08:32:52 pm
I was actually just thinking about this the other day. Might be interesting to give it another shot when 0.8 comes out, I haven't played in a while now.
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: etgfrog on January 29, 2019, 10:08:49 pm
I noticed when I had logged out for a while the nutrient balance will disappear on its own, so you will still have to eat those foods and gain balance. The amount of nitrogen you would have to "eat" would make it a bit silly.
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: LoSboccacc on February 03, 2019, 03:08:01 am
so, caved and bought.

it's interesting. there's lot of padding and busywork, especially at the beginning (i.e. carts using planks) but it seems to clear up nicely later on.

there's a fair share of bugs, like the wheelbarrows seem to go straight only when looking 90deg to the left.

that said the game only comes together only when the asteroid puts some real pressure. I've been on a 120 day server and everyone is basically just speculating on late recipes while building for themselves.

it is also not something one can do casually, you can win factorio playing casually with friends in 3 to 4 sessions, this would take some real commitment and has some real world day time limits, which isn't particularly kind to uncommitted people.

There's stuff that's still unclear to me however, for example it seems everyone needs their own building to benefit from room improvement, you can't have some sort of communal home and benefit from collective work
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: Ivefan on February 03, 2019, 04:08:53 pm
Yeah you need your own rooms to gain the points from that. if you have an active farmer & cook you can get really good points from food too.
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: LoSboccacc on February 04, 2019, 01:07:14 am
internet says that the bleeding_edge branch now contains the 8.0 for testing.

anyhow. I really like that stuff requires m^2 of housing, it makes for pretty convincing cities on populated servers. the limitation on vehicles of all kind push for roads to houses and working areas and in the end it makes the world feel really alive and interconnected. too bad housing material grows exponentially more expensive. at which point industrialization kicks in and solves the "cut these 50 tree for two blocks of lumber"?


edit: server I was playing disappeared. ugh. the level of commitment to get anywhere makes acutely painful server volatility.
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: forsaken1111 on February 04, 2019, 06:36:35 am
FWIW I plan to start an Eco server up on the new version using the discord I created previously for coordination, but I won't be doing that until I finish my final class around the end of this month. If you're okay with waiting until then you're welcome to join
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: LoSboccacc on February 04, 2019, 07:04:28 am
Quote from: forsaken1111 on February 04, 2019, 06:36:35 am
FWIW I plan to start an Eco server up on the new version using the discord I created previously for coordination, but I won't be doing that until I finish my final class around the end of this month. If you're okay with waiting until then you're welcome to join

sounds great, that way maybe we'll also get the first one or two inevitable fixes. we're 3 tho if you don't mind the crowd.
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: forsaken1111 on February 04, 2019, 07:05:42 am
Fine with me, the game works better with a healthy population in my experience
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: Glloyd on February 04, 2019, 04:48:33 pm
Quote from: forsaken1111 on February 04, 2019, 06:36:35 am
FWIW I plan to start an Eco server up on the new version using the discord I created previously for coordination, but I won't be doing that until I finish my final class around the end of this month. If you're okay with waiting until then you're welcome to join

I would gladly join as well whenever that gets started up, as long as I have time for it.
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: Khan Boyzitbig on February 04, 2019, 05:03:04 pm
I might be up for it as well, probably would be supplying raw material or maybe lumber once tech happens. Always some use for trees.
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: Gabeux on February 04, 2019, 07:04:48 pm
0.8 seems that will be really cool. I'm curious about the new Skill system coming up, and how that could affect the game.

I had went hard into Eco, but then stopped doing my modpack due to life stuff, and also because each patch slowly broke mods and a lot of modders went into long breaks or moved on. Would get to a point where I'd end up having to take over other people's mods, which I don't think is nice to do.
All the active players from my server moving on also kinda made me see no point into keeping it going.

I still have a public server running the 0.7.8.9. (https://ecoservers.io/server/3457/) Wiped less than a week ago, and to my surprise there are a few (3-7, not sure) people playing actively or casually. I'm not playing and haven't played in months though.
Feel free to hop on there to check things out, although having a more DF-community server like forsaken runs is probably cooler.
I usually only update to a newer version a week or so after it is released, since the leap to a new major version can get messy. And a side comment on the state of servers, ~6 months ago it was tough for me to get and keep my server in the Top 25 on the EcoServers list. Now it's ranked 5th with me doing pretty much nothing about it.

And I may or may not be low-key helping one of the best Eco modders in developing a game inspired in Rimworld / DF / Rise to Ruins / Prison Architect..
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: PTTG?? on February 04, 2019, 09:18:27 pm
I wouldn't mind doing some farming and mining and stuff. Most especially cooking, actually.
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: Gabeux on February 06, 2019, 06:21:19 pm
0.8 is out (https://ecoauth.strangeloopgames.com/changelog), GBS is up (https://ecoservers.io/server/3457/).
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: LoSboccacc on February 07, 2019, 04:21:23 am
dammit they significantly lengthened the  tier 0 grind, with the small cart behind a star, foliage and branches slowing you down significantly during logging and the new stone mechanics where the stone pick only breaks specific types of stones.
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: Gabeux on February 07, 2019, 06:54:50 am
Yeah the 'meta' changed a bunch. And IMO the vanilla values for Experience gain (both Level and Specialization) are borked. And then I tried tweaking it and borked it even further, with people maxing out a spec in a few hours of play.
It's cool to have more content though. Because before I'd just go Mining+Mortaring and dig caves for stone and then turning those caves into rooms. A lot of things felt very cheesy.

And now ramps are 4x1, and when you place one next to another, they connect. Finally. People derped so hard with ramps, since they'd build the whole world based on the width of Dirt and Stone, and then Asphalt had a different width and would always screw everyone's beautiful roads up.
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: Kagus on February 07, 2019, 08:28:03 am
How are the pollution/devastation mechanics working these days? That was kinda the main draw for me in the beginning, but then later it seemed like the meteor took over center stage and reduced the gravity of fucking up the environment.
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: LoSboccacc on February 08, 2019, 02:15:47 am
Spoiler: It was at this moment, He knew he fucked up (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: Gabeux on February 08, 2019, 04:13:15 am
RIP. We built our house close to a mountain thinking we'd build our good old glorious dwarven mountainhomes, only to hit basalt and never be able to advance.
Good job devs, now we can't build cave rooms so big it crashes the server in the first day anymore.
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 12, 2020, 12:11:44 pm
Necroposting to say that Update 9 is out, it has some cool stuff in it.

https://store.steampowered.com/newshub/app/382310?emclan=103582791454619046&emgid=2886199914087949153

I've set up a public server, anyone is welcome.

Jump on discord here: https://discord.gg/b5pqeYk
Or just join and check out the new update. The server is at ticktockbent.ddns.net:3000 so you can join directly or search for it.
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: Ozyton on September 12, 2020, 02:54:07 pm
I don't know if I've posted in this thread before, but I played this game solo a couple updates back. It was a nice, relaxing game of building up my mini town of sorts and setting up mining, logging, and farming operations complete with roads. I even had an elevator down to the mine. I was working on oil production so I could finally get the last bits I needed to blast the asteroid when an update came out that corrupted my savegame. Said update also changed the way skills work which made it much harder to do anything solo, so I kinda stopped playing.

All that said, I figure that multiplayer is the intended method to play anyways, I just can't get my friends to play it, and even if I could it'd be hard to get everyone on at the same time. Otherwise this game looks pretty damn neat. People making voxel based building games should use this game as inspiration instead of the super-blockiness of things such as Minecraft.
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: Mephisto on September 12, 2020, 03:45:53 pm
Quote from: forsaken1111 on September 12, 2020, 12:11:44 pm
I've set up a public server, anyone is welcome.

How far along is it? New as of 9?

No promises but I might join up a bit if my current diminished gameplay experience can handle it.
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 12, 2020, 04:53:17 pm
Quote from: Mephisto on September 12, 2020, 03:45:53 pm
Quote from: forsaken1111 on September 12, 2020, 12:11:44 pm
I've set up a public server, anyone is welcome.

How far along is it? New as of 9?

No promises but I might join up a bit if my current diminished gameplay experience can handle it.
New as of yesterday evening. Feel free to drop in if you like. I wasn't sure how many people would join so I have skill gain quite high. I think everything at my camp is public right now so grab anything you need.
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on March 11, 2021, 11:19:24 pm
This thread was getting dusty, but the game has recently seen a bit of a revival, so I figured I'd invite my Bay12 brethren to our server.

Eco - Ecology and Economy. We started out as a wayward band of player tired of admin abuse and draconian rules, and have since became a tight-knit group of about 7 active players. Our server is currently vanilla, though we plan on adding some QoL mods, and are looking for anyone willing to join and learn the ropes, and are more than willing to offer a helping hand.

The way we work- the gov't has "requisitions offices," which buy raw goods at the same price they sell them at, to provide income for gatherers and cheap goods for craftsmen. Being a polymath can really beneit you here, though there is always room for new builders, since we are ambitious and have tons of government commissioned projects.

Currently, we are looking for a dedicted farmer/gatherer and ideally cook, but really- anyone willing to work can find something to do.

We're also doing x2 $25 Steam giveaways at the end of the month, and plan on continuing the trend. If you you've be itching to play eco again, give us a go.

Our Discord:
https://discord.gg/AE2dHG4VFx

If you need helping hand, just ask! This group is a really friendly, helpful bunch!
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: Ozyton on March 13, 2021, 07:31:31 pm
It's awfully tempting to join in as I've only played this game solo... but there's so many games to play. I've also been afraid that I'd be more of a burden than an asset in these sorts of games, much as I enjoy the cooperative aspect.
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: dragdeler on May 04, 2021, 03:10:45 pm
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Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: PTTG?? on May 09, 2021, 01:13:06 pm
This game got me through the shutdown. I don't have so much time anymore but a chill game would be nice.
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: Iduno on May 09, 2021, 01:23:40 pm
Does this game require Steam to play, or are there other options?
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: forsaken1111 on May 09, 2021, 06:49:13 pm
I believe they have only published it on Steam. If you buy it direct you just get a steam code.
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: Mephisto on May 17, 2021, 09:14:56 pm
Looks like they're working on a bunch of post-meteor content now. I'll be interested in seeing what comes of that.
Title: Re: Eco: Save the planet from YOURSELF! (And an asteroid)
Post by: Empty on October 01, 2021, 08:10:11 am
Are there still groups playing this?

Anyone interested in starting a new server?