Well. Good luck?
I just want Erdoğan off my life!Why? What does the opposition candidate have to offer beside not being Erdogan?
I just want Erdoğan off my life!
The less conservatives in power worldwide, the better.I just want Erdoğan off my life!Why? What does the opposition candidate have to offer beside not being Erdogan?
I just want Erdoğan off my life!Why? What does the opposition candidate have to offer beside not being Erdogan?
Is it ? USA removed some very bad rules in the middle east, subsequently it lead to instability and blood bath that made the region more impoverished. Can you be more specific than a generic dogma ?I just want Erdoğan off my life!Why? What does the opposition candidate have to offer beside not being Erdogan?
Simply removing someone who rules for ~20 years is a good thing, no country can be truly prosperous with this kind of stagnation.
Is it ? USA removed some very bad rules in the middle east, subsequently it lead to instability and blood bath that made the region more impoverished. Can you be more specific than a generic dogma ?I just want Erdoğan off my life!Why? What does the opposition candidate have to offer beside not being Erdogan?
Simply removing someone who rules for ~20 years is a good thing, no country can be truly prosperous with this kind of stagnation.
We are talking about the turkish voting someone else in power here :). I don't see how you can compare it to those interventionsA comparison can be made on the grounds of much harm caused to the cheer of clueless people. Germans also just voted someone else in power in the lead to ww2.
THE ELECTIONS ARE HAPPENINGbest of luck.
I AM GONNA GO VOTE
THE ELECTIONS ARE HAPPENINGbest of luck.
I AM GONNA GO VOTE
We are talking about the turkish voting someone else in power here :). I don't see how you can compare it to those interventionsA comparison can be made on the grounds of much harm caused to the cheer of clueless people. Germans also just voted someone else in power in the lead to ww2.
I know little about Turkish politics. Maybe that guy will be even worse. But if Erdogan will remain in power, stagnation and rot of the Turkish political system will continue and there are no maybes.I have little interests in your faith in change or cave sandwich slogans, unless someone have actual argument in support of either party I am out.
Yeah the guy is basically a Turkish version of Putin (tho his flavor of authoritarianism (try saying that quickly three times) has a more religious bend). The only reason his shit has been tolerated by most of the west is because Turkey is far too important and useful to alienate, both to NATO and the EU at large.
It'll be good to see the bastard gone, even tho the chances of that actually happening are fairly slim as he's had a good few decades to entrench himself in the position.
I don't think you guys understand the stakes this election has for me. I am a pansexual atheist. If ersoğan wins, and sharia arrives at last, I will die.Erdogan has been in power in one form or another for twenty years, which, if I recall correct, is your entire life. You have not been dead yet. Please try to retain a sense of proportion.
I don't think you guys understand the stakes this election has for me. I am a pansexual atheist. If ersoğan wins, and sharia arrives at last, I will die.Erdogan has been in power in one form or another for twenty years, which, if I recall correct, is your entire life. You have not been dead yet. Please try to retain a sense of proportion.
Yeah, sadly Turkey is becoming to look like more and more like the USAHA HA!
Just curious - I assume your country doesn't have term limits? I think this is one of the things that the USA got correct, political system speaking.It does, but they rebooted their government in 2018 so Erdogan's party's official position is that the term limits were reset because "President" is now a new, different office. I'm not clear on whether any courts have explicitly endorsed this, but it seems to be broadly assumed that he can run for another two terms now.
Their voters are in genuine shock as they have never experienced a defeat before, while we are seasoned election veterans.What defeat, though? They've won the parliament, and they nearly got the presidency in the first round. At best they're not winning as hard as usual. Which, again, seems more likely to be a waking call for the absentees rather than a source of despondency.
The local pundits think Erdogan has this election as good as won. [..]Same here. Now i'll be looking if he change his position on Sweden.
CODENAME: BIGDICKENERGYPure Energy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijAYN9zVnwg)
I AM OUT
OVER
Same pundits say no election tampering was reported by independent observers or otherwise, other than the state-controlled media campaign.
Yeah about that...
It is proven by now that AKP cheating was rampant.
Millions of voters in Turkey on May 14 went to the polls to elect a president and members of parliament. During election day, there were reports of attacks, frauds, and attempts to prevent voting at polling stations from all over the country. Daily Evrensel reporters complied the incidents.Wew that is a novel form of voter suppression. Certainly one for the history books
People’s Democratic Party (HDP) Press Office announced that around two thousand people in southeastern Gaziantep province, who are mostly Green and Left Party (YSP) voters, were unable to vote because they had been registered as polling officials from the Patriotic Party without being informed.
Also in Diyarbakır, around 200 voters who were assigned as polling officials without their knowledge were not allowed to vote.
ERSOĞAN CHEATEDCould I get some sauce for that?
OFFICALLY CONFIRMED
ERSOĞAN CHEATEDCould I get some sauce for that?
OFFICALLY CONFIRMED
Cause my quick ten second google search didn't give me any results.
THEY LITERALLY PURGED THE WEB. WOW.This is a very familiar attitude here in the US, lately.
Here. (https://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/siyaset/son-dakika-chpden-secim-tutanagi-aciklamasi-2082029?utm_medium=Slider%20Haber&utm_source=Cumhuriyet%20Anasayfa&utm_campaign=Slider%20Haber) It is Turkish though.
Essentially;
"Turkey’s Supreme Electoral Council (YSK) sharing data on elections with political parties after the 14 May elections revealed that mistakes were made in many ballot box minutes. After detecting numerous irregularities, statements came from the Republican People's Party (CHP)."
"Mistakes", MY ASS!
Fixed that for you :PTHEY LITERALLY PURGED THE WEB. WOW.This is a very familiar attitude here in the US, for a very long time.
Here. (https://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/siyaset/son-dakika-chpden-secim-tutanagi-aciklamasi-2082029?utm_medium=Slider%20Haber&utm_source=Cumhuriyet%20Anasayfa&utm_campaign=Slider%20Haber) It is Turkish though.
Essentially;
"Turkey’s Supreme Electoral Council (YSK) sharing data on elections with political parties after the 14 May elections revealed that mistakes were made in many ballot box minutes. After detecting numerous irregularities, statements came from the Republican People's Party (CHP)."
"Mistakes", MY ASS!
Is there any hope at all? Looking st parlient it seems to me Erdogan has a substantial % of seats and vote
Is there any hope at all? Looking st parlient it seems to me Erdogan has a substantial % of seats and vote
Eeeeeh... As it stands, president is more powerful than the parliament. Ersoğan expanded the power of his position, like, alot. Kemal will inherit all of it, including the ability to terminate the decisions of the parliament.
Economy is so bad that the Turkish Central Bank has negative reserves.A Turkish shopkeeper once told me "Life doesn't get easier. You just get more Turkish"
I am richer than the country I am living in. Let that sink in.
I am richer than the country I am living in. Let that sink in.My country is in hock for more money than exists.
It will be a long night in Turkey.
I don't believe that Erdogan won't cheat enough to guarantee victory in case he has slightly less than necessary. The question for me is whether the opposition will go to the streets or not.
I don't believe that Erdogan won't cheat enough to guarantee victory in case he has slightly less than necessary. The question for me is whether the opposition will go to the streets or not.I doubt he would need to cheat this time. I am worried about Turkish economy if it goes the same way Erdogan might start to rely on Russian income even more which might turn into a double edged sword.
Good luck going forward. Do you have any kind of escape plan?
It might not be a bad idea. What's the border with Greece like?Good luck going forward. Do you have any kind of escape plan?
no
Few weeks ago, I expected Erdogan to lose. Naive me was sure that collapsing economy and huge casualties from the Earthquake (which would be far lower if not huge corruption in the construction sector) will motivate people to vote against, vote for anyone but the current guy. I was so wrong.
Pretty sure islamaphobia is against the rules, and its at least bigoting an entire religion if it isn't...and people who believe in it.
Pretty sure islamaphobia is against the rules, and its at least bigoting an entire religion if it isn't...and people who believe in it.
This thread because of that just reminds me of a far right wing propaganda talk, whatever the intentions were to begin with. That is one of the #1 talking point of the far right (far right in the US, whatever that is in turkey) is how "dangerous" islam is. Blanketing an entire people+religion under one roof. (to add...it also makes me just very slightlier happy the guy won, and I know nothing about him or anywhere in that part of the world, but if the other side was based on bigotry and fear of islam, then its probably good he won. But can't really base it on one single thread and persons single opinion).
Pretty sure islamaphobia is against the rules, and its at least bigoting an entire religion if it isn't...and people who believe in it.I'm getting sick of this "Beat on the victim of persecution because they're not 100% politically correct about their oppressor's dogma" >:(
This thread because of that just reminds me of a far right wing propaganda talk, whatever the intentions were to begin with. That is one of the #1 talking point of the far right (far right in the US, whatever that is in turkey) is how "dangerous" islam is. Blanketing an entire people+religion under one roof. (to add...it also makes me just very slightlier happy the guy won, and I know nothing about him or anywhere in that part of the world, but if the other side was based on bigotry and fear of islam, then its probably good he won. But can't really base it on one single thread and persons single opinion).
I can, and will be bitter and aggressive about Islam though. Look, I know you guys have no completely direct equalivent, but listen. Islam is a primordial abomination that emerged from the mind of a 7th century, epileptic schizophrenic Arabic merchant with serious issues. Islam is not a good thing. Any person who looks at it from the outside and is capable of thinking will immidiately back off. Only way you can even be content in it is that if you are indoctrinated from birth and never exposed to any alternatives.
I can, and will be bitter and aggressive about Islam though. Look, I know you guys have no completely direct equalivent, but listen. Islam is a primordial abomination that emerged from the mind of a 7th century, epileptic schizophrenic Arabic merchant with serious issues. Islam is not a good thing. Any person who looks at it from the outside and is capable of thinking will immidiately back off. Only way you can even be content in it is that if you are indoctrinated from birth and never exposed to any alternatives.And yes indeed, Islam was founded by a mysogenistic retard who thought it was funny to call himself prophet.. But so was Christianity, and Judaism, and probably all religions that came before that. Religion is just nasty powerplay for those in power.
I can, and will be bitter and aggressive about Islam though. Look, I know you guys have no completely direct equalivent, but listen. Islam is a primordial abomination that emerged from the mind of a 7th century, epileptic schizophrenic Arabic merchant with serious issues. Islam is not a good thing. Any person who looks at it from the outside and is capable of thinking will immidiately back off. Only way you can even be content in it is that if you are indoctrinated from birth and never exposed to any alternatives.Almost spot on. I'd say though that there's two ways... One way you can even be content in it is that if you are indoctrinated from birth and never exposed to any alternatives. The other way is if you are male, and get to own and abuse three wives for free.
The other way is if you are male, and get to own and abuse three wives for free.Hey, and as many
Look, I know you guys have no completely direct equalivent, but listen.Are you certain about that
I can, and will be bitter and aggressive about Islam though.Sure, but keep in mind that that vast majority of Turks are religious, reportedly close to half are religiously observant once a week or more. So regarding most folks around you as idiots and insulting their beliefs would not make your life easier.
Note that the 3 wives thing is rare and was and is limited almost exclusively to people with noticeably higher than average income.There is the thing that a man needs to be able to afford to sustain his wives, but that doesn't make it any less mysogenistic.
Also, note that polygamy is strictly illegal in Turkey.True. Turkey still benefits from Atatürk's secular and modern ideology. My observation was more islam-general than Turkey-specific. The three wives thing is still very much a thing in a lot of islamic countries.
There is the thing that a man needs to be able to afford to sustain his wives, but that doesn't make it any less mysogenistic.
The three wives thing is still very much a thing in a lot of islamic countries though.It is mostly a thing in sub-Saharan Africa and mostly because many men die young there. Developed, stable Muslim countries usually have a low % of such marriages, and they are usually restricted and\or not popular.
I don't care if someones an Arab. I live in Anatolia. Being an anti-Arab racist here would be like hating your neighbors.
I can, and will be bitter and aggressive about Islam though. Look, I know you guys have no completely direct equalivent, but listen. Islam is a primordial abomination that emerged from the mind of a 7th century, epileptic schizophrenic Arabic merchant with serious issues. Islam is not a good thing. Any person who looks at it from the outside and is capable of thinking will immidiately back off. Only way you can even be content in it is that if you are indoctrinated from birth and never exposed to any alternatives.
It isn't like Christianity, where a reformation has happened to mitigate and break apart some of its influence. You have to understand. You have to.
People who attack me for my faith can also fuck off and die however. It's not your business what I want to believe. Yes my old self was essentially obliterated by my conversion but that is a good thing considering what I was like.I vaguely remember you saying you're Buddhist. Did you convert to or from? Because if you converted to Buddhism, obliterating the self is... well, the point.
There are people full of hate everywhere, in every religion AND no religion at all. But they are (I hope anyway) a small group of people, in the grand scheme of things.
lol no I said I considered Buddhism and then went like, "nah". I am a Protestant.People who attack me for my faith can also fuck off and die however. It's not your business what I want to believe. Yes my old self was essentially obliterated by my conversion but that is a good thing considering what I was like.I vaguely remember you saying you're Buddhist. Did you convert to or from? Because if you converted to Buddhism, obliterating the self is... well, the point.
And some of those reformed christians turned out as calvinists so...They really got quite radical, after their split with the hobbesites, in the great Wattersonian Schism of '95!
I don't care about polygyny.
I want a MAN!
I don't care about polygyny.
I want a MAN!
Truth is most people in Turkey (and middle east at large) care about lgbt issues as much as you care about Bangladesh sinking cities. They have more pressing priorities in tumultuous neighborhood at tumultuous times. Most voted Erdogan because the despite the economic hardship he represents stability, diplomatic clout, and Islamic values -- that is not in anyway or form my endorsement just is their perspective.
I think Magmacube means more emigrants from Turkey.Taking their money with them, no doubt.
demographic ?
It will only get worse in time.So AKP camp is invincible?
I can't wrap my head around that.
It will only get worse in time.So AKP camp is invincible?
Sounds about right (https://freedomhouse.org/country/turkey/freedom-world/2022), but I find your lack of faith disturbing.
People who believe, aspire, and fight for something tend to be more successful at bringing about change than those who passively wait for thing to change.
I, even I, know the solution
Love, music, wine, and revolution
Maybe. This reminds me the USA politics, where people thought that Trump is the problem rather than the symptoms. With a lot of online only activist who affect nothing, meanwhile I think the AKP camp isn't waiting for anything, they are making kids and educating them how they like.People who believe, aspire, and fight for something tend to be more successful at bringing about change than those who passively wait for thing to change.
Oh, don't worry. The time to do that will come, inevitably. There is a breaking point for everything.
President Erdogan shifts towards sane economics
https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/06/04/president-erdogan-shifts-towards-sane-economics
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The World is a small place. Number 20 ain't so large as far as economies go.
Being shitburger transit state might work for a time, but it's not really adding to the economic future. It's like how the Middle East is gonna have a hard reckoning once US & EU go electric. Some Saudi Princes will probably just move, since their country will have much less to offer them. Maybe to Turkey.
Without something like the construction of many, many new nuclear power stations going for electric cars won't change much. Maybe, maybe balance will change somewhat and oil will be like 30% cheaper. It is more than enough for Saudi to live as they do now.
As for the topic, there is no Islamist country (that also doesn't have a lot of oil) that is not dirt poor. This is why I think that If Turkey is going to become Sunni Iran, it won't have oil to maintain its economy
Being shitburger transit state might work for a time, but it's not really adding to the economic future. It's like how the Middle East is gonna have a hard reckoning once US & EU go electric. Some Saudi Princes will probably just move, since their country will have much less to offer them. Maybe to Turkey.
One of the things that contributed to Germans economic competitiveness was that the cheap commodities from Russia, and I don't mean just oil and gas but there are a lot of other raw materials essential for its industry. That why Germany was ignoring Russia shitburger-ness and was bending over to keep this economic link alive up until the invasion. Because money talk.
Don't per capita it (https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/exports-by-country)And?
40 years ago, in 1983, germany had the strongest wages in europe, maybe not in absolute numbers, but adjusted for cost of living I really doubt pounds and francs took you as far as marks. Then they acquired their low salary sector through unification... What had been the perfect semi-permeable membrane crumbled (ikea is one of the big and famous companies that produced in east germany and sold in west germany) their overall economy adjusted downwards. Then in 2005 they had a giant reform of laborlaws, which turned germany into the biggest minimum wage sector among it's neighbours, and that is the correct reason to be mad at them, it makes them so competitive that sooner or later the standard of living of the whole EU will be threatened to be lowered.Relevance? Does any of that suppose to contradict what I said?
...and what does this have to do with Turkey?Have you ever been to Germany?
...and what does this have to do with Turkey?Have you ever been to Germany?
Because the Turks have. :P
Such joke. Much fun.
a disease.Again, you should be more careful with your phrasings. Imagine if someone called you that.. you can't turn PC only when its convenient.
Fuck you :Pa disease.Again, you should be more careful with your phrasings. Imagine if someone called you that.. you can't turn PC only when its convenient.
iirc someone recently made fun of Elon Musk being 'free speech absolutist' only when it suits him, I guess he is no different then rest of you just much more successful/rich.Actually, I am probably the only one that is a "Free Speech Absolutist", and I ain't censoring you.
Tucker Carlson also think so.He does. Why would that have a bearing on my beliefs?
iirc someone recently made fun of Elon Musk being 'free speech absolutist' only when it suits him, I guess he is no different then rest of you just much more successful/rich.Oh I wasn't making fun of him being a hypocrite about being a free-speech-absolutist. I was making fun of him for claiming to be a free-speech-absolutist at all!
You have censored enough people in your Ukraine threads, to the extent you could, or cheered on them being booted. You're no free speech absolutist - may Chomsky forgive you....like usual, Il Palazzo has a good point.
MaxTheFox believes in the virtues of censoring Far Right Rhetoric, just ask them.And they believe in the virtues of censoring Far Left Rhetoric, just ask them. Do you see the problem for discourse..
Magma has not once been PC, Allah Bless him.Saying what you have on your mind without any filter is easy, the question is do you afford others the same freedom. What if someone came here and used such language about him.. would he be saying Perhaps or crying with religious zeal for the ban hammer..
So you would support anyone right to say that your religion is a 'pervasive mind disease'. Stating that you are 'beyond saving', what you say is merely 'validate your beliefs', and it is 'virtue to censor' you.Nope because I consider my beliefs more valid than theirs.
I consider my beliefs more valid than theirs.Said like any true believer out there.
I expect to be banned from communities they control too-- and that's fine because I don't go there and my side and their side should stay in each others' lanes. Let them have their own echo chambers.So its a fair game to ban LGBTQ people, because they should stay in their 'own lanes', their own
You have censored enough people in your Ukraine threads, to the extent you could, or cheered on them being booted. You're no free speech absolutist - may Chomsky forgive you....like usual, Il Palazzo has a good point.
This forum is a rare exception, of a community where both the left and the right can tolerate each other.Lol. This forum is an exception? This den of progressive scum and villainy? There are no right wing people on bay 12. Or if there are, they stay away from politics. They've all been bullied away over the years. Best you can get is a few centrists.
My position is honestly less spite and more recognizing that civility just... doesn't really work out nowadays.If you contribute to it not working, then you must want for it not to work.
If you contribute to it not working, then you must want for it not to work.
There are no truly far-right people but that's a good thing. There’s a few people I would consider moderate right though. McTraveller, jipehog, TheDwarfy, arguably Strongpoint. Yes there are no outright Nazis or reactionaries because they get chased off, but considering them even existing is a symptom of our society's degradation that's a good thing.This forum is a rare exception, of a community where both the left and the right can tolerate each other.Lol. This forum is an exception? This den of progressive scum and villainy? There are no right wing people on bay 12. Or if there are, they stay away from politics. They've all been bullied away over the years. Best you can get is a few centrists.
When I adopted these beliefs it was already dead. I alone won't revive something society-wide so I chose the belief that, you know, makes it easier on me and communities I have a stake in. I am not a true idealist, I am willing to throw away principles if I see something is not working out.My position is honestly less spite and more recognizing that civility just... doesn't really work out nowadays.If you contribute to it not working, then you must want for it not to work.
Yes, I wish to profit from my hypocrisy. How astute of you to notice!You have censored enough people in your Ukraine threads, to the extent you could, or cheered on them being booted. You're no free speech absolutist - may Chomsky forgive you....like usual, Il Palazzo has a good point.
Don't listen to him Jack! I believe you're just as much a free speech absolutist as Musk is! And probably for the same reason as well.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMaybe we should step off Magma's thread...
Freedom of speech is a lie online anyways. What I meant is, who's going to stop e.g right-wing Discord servers banning left-wing people who join? And they do.It is not that different from asking someone to leave your private property because you dislike their views. Not freedom of speech per see.
Turning the other cheek might work IRL, but online it just gets you slapped twice. Wouldn't there be less conflict if everyone just stuck to their ideologically-aligned communities?Funny. I always assumed that turning the other cheek refers to not reacting to insults and choosing humility over pride.
There’s a few people I would consider moderate right though. McTraveller, jipehog, TheDwarfy, arguably Strongpoint. Yes there are no outright Nazis or reactionaries because they get chased off, but considering them even existing is a symptom of our society's degradation that's a good thing.
You missed the part where I said online? They should be allowed to speak in real life of course. Segregating the Nazis into their own Nazi towns or whatever in real life would indeed not work out and is just batshit. In my experience it's MUCH easier to deconvert bigots IRL (still very hard) than it is online (borderline impossible unless you have godlike persuasive skills and their beliefs are wavering anyways).QuoteTurning the other cheek might work IRL, but online it just gets you slapped twice. Wouldn't there be less conflict if everyone just stuck to their ideologically-aligned communities?Funny. I always assumed that turning the other cheek refers to not reacting to insults and choosing humility over pride.
And there will be MORE conflict when people will inevitability be forced out of their bubbles. For example, when politicians from the other bubble will win the election. And someone has to win the elections.
Working society is based either on compromises or massive amounts of violence and oppression and compromises are impossible if everyone will decide to stop communicating with anyone who disagrees with you.
Left and right wing are indeed hard to define in an unbiased way. You're definitely right economically.QuoteThere’s a few people I would consider moderate right though. McTraveller, jipehog, TheDwarfy, arguably Strongpoint. Yes there are no outright Nazis or reactionaries because they get chased off, but considering them even existing is a symptom of our society's degradation that's a good thing.
You know why I reject being called right? Because if far-rights are defined as extreme racists, misogynists, homophobes, etc. then being called a moderate right is being called all of that but to a somewhat lesser extent
You missed the part where I said online? They should be allowed to speak in real life of course.
You're definitely right economically.Well, I am a staunch proponent of universal basic income. I think the world will be unfair without strong trade unions everywhere. I consider copyright laws to be a bloated structure that went far beyond the necessary purpose and is used to feed parasites. Monopolies should be violently fucked at every opportunity, etc. But yeah, I believe that any attempt to implement communism can bring only poverty, injustice, and tyranny.
So, today, a 12 year old boy has been found dead inside a cult mederese's (islamic school) barn. He has been reported to have escaped two times before, yet his family had sent him back each time.
Here is the fucked up part. Family of the boy pressed no charges, and the imam responsible has been taken into custody, and was then released, nilly willy. He is still a free man. Opening and running medrese's are literally illegal.
The exact same shit happened when Enes Kara took his own life at a cult student dorm, and when that baby got raped to death by a cult imam. Family pressed no charges, and the criminal left the police free of charge. These will only get more common as time passes.
This is the stuff we are dealing with. Half this country would stand by these scum any day of the week. There is no justice. Humanity is dead. That wretched abomination called islam has taken the victory, their wicked god is pridefully beating its chest right in front of our faces.
I am thinking of carrying a knife with me, and getting a gun carrying permit ASAP. I am LGBT+, an atheist, and an autist. I am the living, breathing personification of the words; "the nail that sticks out".
And I don't want to die. If I die, there will be NO justice for me. Police won't protect me. The courts won't consider me. My family will not stand by me.
I pass as just a "normal", if not weird guy from outside. I have that going for me at least. No one around me knows I am neither of the three things that I am. I have told no one of my sexuality. I am undiagnosed. I am still registered as muslim.
If I am able to in the future, I will escape this failed state.
Get that Pistol Permit ASAP, before you end up on some list that bars you from ever getting one.Going gun ho EuchreJack? Dragdeler offered some safer options.
For Magma, there might be a narrow window when his government will allow most people to obtain a pistol permit.Get that Pistol Permit ASAP, before you end up on some list that bars you from ever getting one.Going gun ho EuchreJack? Dragdeler offered some safer options.
Magma has not once been PC, Allah Bless him.
Turkey's Central Bank hikes benchmark interest rate to 15% from 8.5%
So unexpected! (no)
Ukraine needed a war (or 2008 financial crisis) to make similar steps
Yep, it doesn't seem like it is going to get any better soon. I thought people would change their minds after the earthquake, but that is not the case (which was shocking to me). I feel extremely disappointed and unsurprised at the same time.
Contrary to popular belief- and this may be very shocking and surprising to all you, but I am not actually an eldritch, cube-shaped volcano god with cetacean features.......
Who can say when it will strike? (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/2/13/hold-analysis-is-istanbul-ready-for-a-strong-earthquake) Earthquake proofing a city is beyond my understanding
The real reason for the prohibition is antisemitism.
Couldn't believe my ears. I guess Allah trades in crypto himself.
A muslim I know told me he cannot take a mortgage because of his religion, even though the low rent and tax laws make a mortgage extremely advantageous where I live. So in order to buy a house he needs to get filthy rich instead. He's trading in cryptocurrencies to get there. Because Allah is absolutely cool with that shit. But not with 2% rent on a mortgage, oh no, blasphemy.There are shariah house financing options, where the bank purchases the house and sells it to the buyer in monthly installments at a higher price. In economic terms it usually comes out to more expensive than a mortgage, but does have some advantages. It is unaffected by interest rate swings, so you don't get a situation where a weak homeowner is suddenly bankrupted during a recession. And if there is a housing market price collapse, the bank is the one holding the house, and the bank is in a position to just maintain its current financial arrangement with its counterparty, unless the bank itself is in financial distress
So far he's gained a few thousand negative euros from trading, buy hey. Temporary setback.
Couldn't believe my ears. I guess Allah trades in crypto himself.
A muslim I know told me he cannot take a mortgage because of his religion, even though the low rent and tax laws make a mortgage extremely advantageous where I live. So in order to buy a house he needs to get filthy rich instead. He's trading in cryptocurrencies to get there. Because Allah is absolutely cool with that shit. But not with 2% rent on a mortgage, oh no, blasphemy.
So far he's gained a few thousand negative euros from trading, buy hey. Temporary setback.
Couldn't believe my ears. I guess Allah trades in crypto himself.
I can't really tell if you're trying to disagree or make a point or just speculating for fun I guess?Neither?
A muslim I know told me he cannot take a mortgage because of his religion, even though the low rent and tax laws make a mortgage extremely advantageous where I live. So in order to buy a house he needs to get filthy rich instead. He's trading in cryptocurrencies to get there. Because Allah is absolutely cool with that shit. But not with 2% rent on a mortgage, oh no, blasphemy.There are shariah house financing options, where the bank purchases the house and sells it to the buyer in monthly installments at a higher price. In economic terms it usually comes out to more expensive than a mortgage, but does have some advantages. It is unaffected by interest rate swings, so you don't get a situation where a weak homeowner is suddenly bankrupted during a recession. And if there is a housing market price collapse, the bank is the one holding the house, and the bank is in a position to just maintain its current financial arrangement with its counterparty, unless the bank itself is in financial distress
So far he's gained a few thousand negative euros from trading, buy hey. Temporary setback.
Couldn't believe my ears. I guess Allah trades in crypto himself.
As you may or may not know, bottom man are exempt from militiary service. You know why. The whole "unmanly" shtick. Tops are allowed though. So it is pretty much the Greek point of view.BECOME UNGOVERNABLE
The exemption previously required photogtaphic evidence; You essentially had to show a bunch of militiary doctors porn of you getting fucked in the ass.
But nowadays it has been reduced to a "pschological evaluation". With that I mean you and your family answering incredibly invasive questions such as the kinds of toys you played with in your childhood or if you use perfume or not. Questions to "determine" if you are a bottom or not. Which is bullshit, as you can tell.
And as you may or may not know... I am queer. I am planning to dodge the draft by being me. I have 0 respect or compassion for the militiary. I hate the idea of toiling under it.
Now, should I enter the evaluation? I am not effeminate at all. I am actually gender neutral on most regards. Being me is probably not enough for me to pass as a gay bottom.
Or should I fulfill the... older requirements?~. As a treat?
We all know why this rule exists. All man on the top most be bottoms themselves and they must be trying to eliminate the competition.
...
They have no words to label me. They have no concept to describe me. Their pathetic little framework falls apart at the sight of me. I am neither of the two things they use to describe the likes of me. Me. Me. Me.
I am the natural consequence of nature that they call an abberation. I am the living, breathing personification of the words "the nail that sticks out". I am the grim reminder that all they think they know and have been believing for millenia are all false.
Yea. I am all that. Any objections? Cool.