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This seems like it's going to pretty fun. Hidden battling guns everywhere, I can just see it, clockwork spying birds,frankenstoids glorious propaganda, etc.
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Quick question: will we be able to determine anything about our characters appearance, you're more importantly since we've already decided on the scientist, (if I'm reading things correctly) do we get to vote on which branch of science they're most proficient in? Or, are they going to be one of those "omnidisciplinary" scientists I've heard so much about? ::)
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OmnidisciplinaryScientist
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His name is Erin Quill, and he is dissatisfied, preferring to work in his personal fields of interest, teleportation and transdimensional physics.Hey look, opinions. If I was a competent dictator I'd have your head.
His name is Jebediah Kerman!
As for weaknesses: I say D. Everything else is them getting inside our areas where the guards are; that one is them getting inside where the tech is.
I don't care about the royal family. I want all my teleportation devices to be safe.
G: Send in our own people, disguised as rebellion people, to go out and say things that we might plausibly be doing, but which we actually aren't. Then, when people demand the truth, we show it to them: 9 out of the 10 things they were accusing us of were wrong, go home, you were rebelling over nothing.
We don't show them that last tenth.
Also, may I simply say that A never works?
Well, of course they'd teleport themselves out. There's teleporters for everyone worth assassinating. If the heroes come to the lab, I'll have them test any prototypes I need run through testing. Heroes love testing new stuff, y'know?
I suggest that we send out some negotiations and try and figure out why they wanted to kill the governor, for PR's sake, however those same individuals will be strapped with remotely detonatable explosives so that if we can't get them to stand down then we can at least get rid of a few of them with the element of surprise, it will also let us eliminate anyone supposedly from our side that tries to collide with them.
If that fails, then we can starve them out and shoot any that don't surrender immediately.
*shrugs*
I'm torn between A(Blow them up now!), and C. Telling them that the whole building is rigged (w're the empire, and they'll be in too much danger to disregard this even if it is a lie.) As well as our own people, etc. nobody gets out alive unless they co-operate.
A. The blame can fall on rebels suicide bomb method via pr spinning.
;) goodbye.
We're a 19th century technocracy based in Antarctica that happens to have a wormhole. We've imposed inspections on iron ore carts so nobody can sneak into our industrial sector with them. A rebellion in a coastline city captured the governor. We sent in negotiators with suicide vests and were forced to remotely detonate them, leveling the governor's mansion and killing the governor and most of the rebels.
We can analyze the shards after we explore the tunnel.
I don't know why the GM has to be so… negative.
Anyway, I think C should be good for now.
Just to clarify for the recordI don't know why the GM has to be so… negative.
Anyway, I think C should be good for now.
Firstly - you just sentenced a whole roomful of people to death, half of which were on your side. Secondly - I tend to describe morbid things in great detail.
I absolutely agree, though, it had to be done. Although if you hadn't blown it up, they'd assume that you would and run away... leaving you standing in a mansion full of all their plans and stuff...
There's no catch on C. Just me rewarding you for retaining a vestige of morality, physically if not mentally.
Fluff writing has begun.
We are a overlord. Morality is a subject matter. If the governor did his job well his wife would have not gone boom. I have played games as a villain protigantist. So morals is not big to me.
B. Gotta check tunnels.
...idiots. You don't just stroll in to unknown territory; you're supposed to be careful. How poorly-trained are these buffoons?
B, clearly. Assuming I can join.
Is B, followed by A but with shotguns, an option we can take?
This is not a matter of "how well can you shoot". I am well aware that evil minions couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. This is a question of "look where you're going, 二百五".
If there is no catch, can we still have the necklace so? That could make our political minions more attached for the cause, while we can still put propaganda and (try to, it never works) blame the rebels for the bombing "They even don't even know how to use bombs safely to make their own troops secure, they *cough* killed our negotiators"
Plus, is there a reason you wrote "205" in Chinese?It's an expression. It means "halfwit".
Plus, is there a reason you wrote "205" in Chinese?It's an expression. It means "halfwit".
A: Go right
do we have the option to split up and send a token force left? (splitting up always works well against the heroes)
A: Go right
do we have the option to split up and send a token force left? (splitting up always works well against the heroes)
Isn't A to go left?
I say B go right. Splitting up is never a good idea, less ground but more competences in everyone's part.
A
There you go.
Yeah I was apparently slow on that vote.
Lol this is getting messy. Refer to my above post.
A. Check the grate carefully. Maybe the rebels were trying to get more Macguffin to destabilize our empire by black holing the capital. Or at least find clues before going the other way. But some should keep distance, traps and all.
Why did you guys all assume that just because we heard people, or sound that sounded vaguely like people running in One Direction that's where they actually would be, maybe they tossed some stones in that direction, or it could've been an animal, or a record player, or something, if I was them I would have ran for the water for several reasons.
A: it would mask my sound.
B: it might mask my scent.
C. There's a chance it might inconvenience my pursuers.
B, retreat the rebels seem like less of a threat now that we know we have giant spiders lurking just below the city...somehow....also we want to keep our engineers alive and down as many of these beasties as possible.
OOC: we could always just ask theempiresrepublics best supplier for 🐫's Hassan is always available or so I hear. ;D
I say we use psycho surgery with mechanized armor to make a youth legion. Heros can deal with killing animals, undead and robots. But people, especially young ones?
Throws off their game. -An attempt to make space marines/ skiitrai in a even more horrifying manner.
Do we have DNA-coded triggers yet?
If we don't I recommend we invent those before we make handheld superweapons.
Is training cybernetic hounds to hunt for these troublemakers and option we can put on the table?
I say we use psycho surgery with mechanized armor to make a youth legion. Heros can deal with killing animals, undead and robots. But people, especially young ones?
Throws off their game. -An attempt to make space marines/ skiitrai in a even more horrifying manner.
What about implementing some Identification system that required renewal three times a year to pass between major settlements, surely that would give our opponents some difficulty as long as we can discourage the citizenry from helping them...
Perhaps we should put some bounties on their heads? And offer to publicly execute anyone who assistants them, by say impalment?
We should work on propaganda, bribe some religious cults into slowly spreading our emperor image as a god-chosen (We can make some technology/drug on water system to make people more religious and easy to control, give huge amounts to religious leaders so it make easier to convince them)
If this work later we can slowly convince that we adopt indigo children as angels on earth to aid our emperor, we can even give some of them gold colored armor to deal with the public giving basic goods for tax-payers to survive.
This is a long-term goal, sure, make people unaware of their surroundings, give bunch of circus and see us as saviors.
I kind of just like "...meh that could have been handled better..." what we did with the children I would've preferred creating some voluntary youth legions or at least making it seem like it came with societal prestige, or at absolute minimum having something along the lines of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_Youth .
I'm not interested in going full Orwellian it won't work properly without other massive countries working to fund the delusion and we only control half the world right now, and I assume that there are at least a few other nations on the scope that are actively hostile towards our interests.
Besides our government is anything but subtle The way it's presented itself, I prefer trying to get the public to believe that we are at least in a twisted matter working towards the greater good, that would at least convince some people to form some sort of grassroots organizations in support of the empire, like the USSR was able to manage in Africa and Latin America.
We're the scientist, remember? Not Overlord Kerman. And besides, religion only fits with science when you're in WH40K.
I think aside rebel crushing and would be conquering, we should devote our time to making the people's lives a little bit better. Next free time anyway.
1. Get info
a) Is the incident related to the governor case or just another one? (probably we will only discover after solving the problem)
b) What else is rumored to be in the museum, weapons? Magical shit from other worlds? Maps of an old sewer that may help the rebels sneak past us? Or just something to demoralize us?
2. Secure and lock
A) close all ground-level exits, no one come near, there is a madman there trying to erase history that we have to deal before he hurts innocent people (and this way we can screw him with our more unethical ways without someone noticing)
B) Survey the area, any tunnel or sewer entrance that we can close/send our troops in a surprise attack?
3) attempt to *cough* negotiate *cough*
F: gas bombs instead. Something to knock out the rebels. tell the diplos that there are no explosives.
F: tell them not to worry, we can't afford to use explosives around such a delicate historical artifact that we might leave be able to restore into weapon system. Tell them however that if they fail, will send in another team to seal up all the exits until the starving hooligans surrender.
F: gas bombs instead. Something to knock out the rebels. tell the diplos that there are no explosives.+1.
It'll be a shame to lose those researchers....but from what I've gathered if these guys successfully get those materials, then our capital is just about finished, so I'm afraid we might have to break a few eggs to make this omelette.
>Tell then that they can go ahead and shoot the researchers we can train more, tell them that if they surrender now we will offer amnesty to any of their associates and that we will commute their sentence from excruciatingly slow death, to exile in the wilderness.
I'm sorry for being your biggest fan, you probably deserve better :-(
Joke Suggestion: Grab some popcorn, and a listening device, tell them to take as long as they need as they are clearly providing a good example of the disunity and chaos that comes from opposing the "benevolent" ruler of the "democratic" southern republic .
Real Suggestion: See if we can fire gass cannister into their midst while their arguing, if it seems we can't get an accurate trajectory call for a camouflaged dirigible to drop some parachutist police into the the building, if none of that becomes available, tell them that they have 1 minute to surrender before we start shooting them. (Mostly The Older gentleman as he's clearly armed and a threat)
We're doing the joke suggestion because demoralizing the enemy is always better.
Exile him to the wilderness... to the Australian wilderness. If he's not dead in a week, have him quietly assassinated, set up to look like an attack by the local wildlife.
I was about to ask how my later suggestion could even be used but then the thread caught up.
I suggest we leave him on the South Georgia Islands, (assuming they're mostly abandoned in this world as well) it would be a good show of the empires "mercy and benevolence" which will help immensely with PR in discrediting further heroics.
EDIT: also the point of tossing in gas canisters, in my eyes but I've been to blind and confuse them, for just long enough that they could be safely apprehended.
Wait, we're in Brazil?
When did this happen?
Sorry for the almost doublepost but I think I had a better idea:
Wait, let's do a bit of A and B, question him before we exile him, with the promise of being given more survival equipment the more he blabs.
Afterall amnesty and exile was only promised to those who surrendered if I recall correctly.( I still recommend the south Georgia islands)
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I'll try not to edit posts further, but making new posts should work fine right?
I say we do A but alter it.
During trip to islands we have a female Cherubim on board (youth trooper/legion code as they keep their youthful looks as kids or teens. Any how)
Have our agent befriend him. Due to being female and genetically perfect. If he fell for some rebellious tramp. This will be easy.
Keep him occupied during trip to island and leave him. Maybe give the two radios to still be friendly, possibly get info, and ambush via cyber hounds, or her via bare hands when no longer useful. ( Keep in mind she cannot fall in love with him. As she is psycho surged, we control what feelings she has. So ha! And sure has loop holes. But a perfect overlord reign is well. Boring to rule the world.)
I say we do A but alter it.I feel like this is made of terrible ideas.
During trip to islands we have a female Cherubim on board (youth trooper/legion code as they keep their youthful looks as kids or teens. Any how)
Have our agent befriend him. Due to being female and genetically perfect. If he fell for some rebellious tramp. This will be easy.
Keep him occupied during trip to island and leave him. Maybe give the two radios to still be friendly, possibly get info, and ambush via cyber hounds, or her via bare hands when no longer useful. ( Keep in mind she cannot fall in love with him. As she is psycho surged, we control what feelings she has. So ha! And sure has loop holes. But a perfect overlord reign is well. Boring to rule the world.)
I say we do A but alter it.I feel like this is made of terrible ideas.
During trip to islands we have a female Cherubim on board (youth trooper/legion code as they keep their youthful looks as kids or teens. Any how)
Have our agent befriend him. Due to being female and genetically perfect. If he fell for some rebellious tramp. This will be easy.
Keep him occupied during trip to island and leave him. Maybe give the two radios to still be friendly, possibly get info, and ambush via cyber hounds, or her via bare hands when no longer useful. ( Keep in mind she cannot fall in love with him. As she is psycho surged, we control what feelings she has. So ha! And sure has loop holes. But a perfect overlord reign is well. Boring to rule the world.)
I say we do A but alter it.
During trip to islands we have a female Cherubim on board (youth trooper/legion code as they keep their youthful looks as kids or teens. Any how)
Have our agent befriend him. Due to being female and genetically perfect. If he fell for some rebellious tramp. This will be easy.
Keep him occupied during trip to island and leave him. Maybe give the two radios to still be friendly, possibly get info, and ambush via cyber hounds, or her via bare hands when no longer useful. ( Keep in mind she cannot fall in love with him. As she is psycho surged, we control what feelings she has. So ha! And sure has loop holes. But a perfect overlord reign is well. Boring to rule the world.)
Not genetically perfect, just really souped up with genetic modifications. I'd say around 250% the strength of a regular human? Good looks were not in the brochure, but it didn't hurt their appearance either.
Cybernetic linking doesn't control emotion. She might still fall for him. But she's disallowed from having any rebellious thoughts against the Empire - she would really care about him, and think he's making a mistake - she'll try her best to turn him.
It's just that some poor sap at the control center is going to have to sit through all her mushy gushy emotions... ugh.
And he might still be falling for said rebellious tramp. His dialogue is almost up, then you can question him a bit more then release him as specified by Tyrant.
I say we do A but alter it.
During trip to islands we have a female Cherubim on board (youth trooper/legion code as they keep their youthful looks as kids or teens. Any how)
Have our agent befriend him. Due to being female and genetically perfect. If he fell for some rebellious tramp. This will be easy.
Keep him occupied during trip to island and leave him. Maybe give the two radios to still be friendly, possibly get info, and ambush via cyber hounds, or her via bare hands when no longer useful. ( Keep in mind she cannot fall in love with him. As she is psycho surged, we control what feelings she has. So ha! And sure has loop holes. But a perfect overlord reign is well. Boring to rule the world.)
Not genetically perfect, just really souped up with genetic modifications. I'd say around 250% the strength of a regular human? Good looks were not in the brochure, but it didn't hurt their appearance either.
Cybernetic linking doesn't control emotion. She might still fall for him. But she's disallowed from having any rebellious thoughts against the Empire - she would really care about him, and think he's making a mistake - she'll try her best to turn him.
It's just that some poor sap at the control center is going to have to sit through all her mushy gushy emotions... ugh.
And he might still be falling for said rebellious tramp. His dialogue is almost up, then you can question him a bit more then release him as specified by Tyrant.
Then no. Hell to the no. Trying to turn him means showing him mercy and I realize the folly that this is the material of modern day young adult fiction. :Shoots plan out of a cannon into the sun.: Too many cliches.
Yes. Branding him is a good way to identify the body when he is found one way or another. Hmmm. My original idea was choloform him, put tracking devices and let him pick wilderness in case rebels find him, we find rebels. Too many variables. Like how female agent had too much cheese.
What does your group call itself?
Are you just one cell among many?
Would you be willing to rejoin the empire in a years time, perhaps you could even work to avoid your "freinds" meeting a nasty end through the official channels?
If you hated them empire why didn't you flee to the North? I'm sure they're are plenty of tribes their that we don't really care about.
Part of me want's to recruit this guy, put him in a fake prison for about 1 month doing psychological tests to discover where his skills really are and then recruit him.
Part of me knows that he is just an incompetent and this trope never works, he will only slow down a rebel with a shit talk while being left to die or gaining a mercy shot, so letting him go after 1 month of prison or just letting him go "What? he was just a hostage of rebel group, we can give the rebels 1 more year for each in jail for that"
Either way, we should implant an hidden tracker/microphone/whatever to make sure he isn't meeting/writing/talking to any rebel
B:release him, with a tracker and tell the press he was a hostage
B and C
Comand people to use advantage points of view and question the guy "Where is the backdoor? Do they took hostages? And if they're gone why can't you leave the building now and yell it in the windows?"
B:release him, with a tracker and tell the press he was a hostage
Too suspicious
B and C
Comand people to use advantage points of view and question the guy "Where is the backdoor? Do they took hostages? And if they're gone why can't you leave the building now and yell it in the windows?"
THEY TIED US UP NEAR A TELEGRAPH HA HA
FOUND A TUNNEL NEAR THE CONTROL CONSOLE, USING OUR NOTES
Scouts report that they can't be sure, but the center appears rebel-free and has several researchers tied up, one of which is tapping something.
Release him in another city far from the capital anywhere in our control as a new man, in the way interrogate him to more precise info about the rebels and where he thinks they might hide.
I also came up with a counter to those whacky rebel scum should they do the black hole thing.
A: South Georgia island
we can recover him later if need be but right now it seems useless enough that we should put them somewhere out-of-the-way.
Also, have we gotten around to having ID badges on all uniforms, as well as non-face concealing visors? It's on the Evil Overlord List!
Yeah, ain't cutting it. From now on, everybody, not just the normal guards(except the Cherubs, at least not yet) must have a very visible badge on them at all times. Anybody who does not have a badge must be captured for questioning. Furthermore, each badge should have a photograph of the guard who owns it on said badge. If the faces do not match, take them in for interrogation. No excuses are acceptable.These badges will have a code that is connected to a file of their criminal record, if they have one.
Also, make sure that any maps or signs label the wormhole ends as a place that the rebels definitely would not want to go. While the Overlord List suggests something to do with sewage, that might appeal to them as a place that guards would not go either, so good for hiding. I'd think someplace likely to have alert guards and unlikely to have loose guard equipment laying around. Unfortunately, the possibility that the rebels have a "free the prisoners" attitude, and the many types of room that might be left unguarded if their presence was discovered and every available guard needed eliminates many options.
Hmm... While a regular armoury would attract them if they were looking for weapons/uniforms, could labelling the wormhole rooms as "siege engine workshops" convey the right combination of that-will-be-guarded and nothing-useful-for-me? I guess another critical part is that few of the regular guards need a reason to know about the actual purpose. Also, another constraint would be names that draw attention for espionage, so anything research-related might not work either.
If the rebels understand the meaning, how about "radioactive waste storage"? Or "poisonous spider breeding"? Both go would be actively dangerous rather than unpleasant as mere sewage would be, and are the sort of thing that you would naturally want to put out of the way deep underground. Also, very few people would ever have a reason to go there, so it would be far harder for them to bluff their way in. Actually, wouldn't that raise suspicion, with the obvious traffic? So maybe the wormhole room itself is labelled that way, to discourage breaking in through alternate routes, but a room connected to it (indirectly?) is where all of the human traffic to the wormhole approaches from, and has a valid reason for that much activity. "Records storage" would have too much intelligence value and attract the rebels again, so how about "records auditing"? Unless all information to/from the wormhole rooms is already carried by voice tube and/or electrical signal, so the room itself needs minimal foot traffic.
Can we at least put some guards in the wormhole room? Or maybe... do we have security cameras yet? If we don't, can we drill a tiny hole in the wall that can be looked through in a second room?
Being a Brazilian this all is being very funny to imagine. I can even visualize the rebels running my street and going in the general direction of the beach
As tempting as D is we need a cover story for why scientists are to the layman's eyes escorting children to a disaster zone, I say B is what we need.
B.
I'd enjoy going the friendly enemies (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FriendlyEnemy) route with these guys, at least as much as we're able to. If they're going to defeat us, I'd at least like to be able to respect them, and have their respect back.
...so, you mean D?
Okay I'll change my vote since I've been outvoted.
B, let's not fight them until we have too, no point in wasting lives right now.
This is why I said, "If they look like they're going to do something with the crystal, we shoot them".
Hmmm, shit.
Scientists, continue working on sabotage
dogs, send some after the figures still on the beach outside the anomaly zone to squash or capture them. (hostages hohoho)
Send the bomb squad to distract the anomaly user from the other side? They could spread and shot him with their normal guns and make the anomaly user focus on them not on the scientists/dogs. and maybe with them spread he can only take a few of them each time.
Jacob Eledin is physically shackled and guarded by a squad composed of police from our most violent urban areas that we had on hand, Proffesonal game trackers should he escape and several blood hounds with articles of his clothing are on board, he is in one of our older simpler steamships, with the room reserved for him, this room has only one entrance and one exit, nonetheless we will have some cards stationed below the room if possible in case he should somehow break through the floor.
There is a second smaller ship carrying a few soldiers circling around his just in case he man just make it into the water, which would kill him eventually anyway, but best not take chances.
As for the current situation, you should definitely make a PR campaign piece out of it.
I personally think we should wait for the Drake passage to clear up, but if the consensus moves against that than, how quickly could we dump him the Galapagos?
1: There better be more of them as they are not cheap.
2; Need better gear. Like sniper level weapon art to counter this.
3: Spin it that they were harmless with fake ids and make the scum painted as child murdering monster cultists.
But yeah have security forces open fire as scientist keep trying to unravel it. The kid you guys make the call.
Hmmm, make the rebel pass through the drake passage, but this time with expendable crew and ship
IF he survives the trip (or a hidden rebel cell uses this chance to rescue him) we go back to the reinforced crew
B Send the dogs in the jungle bomb squads and scientists remain at the beach
Hmmm, have the cherubs some weapon droped?
Have the bomb squad grab it and do suppressing fire on the swimming guy, he can't concentrate on whatever he is doing. If they land a hit it's an blessing. (or just wait patiently to discover what will happen)
So my vote is now C, A
What about leaving him in the Falklands(my new suggestion unless someone find something wrong with it).with still the crew suggestions that I've made out, I actually don't want him to die on us because if he's just been lying this whole time then there's a chance that other rebels might try and rescue him, they won't Try and rescue a dead man, unless they don't know that he's a dead man.
Also I agree that we should work on cloning, but unless we can get those clowns to grow faster than normal then it will be a long-term investment rather than the short term one as it should still take us a few years to get a good batch of that.
OOC: I thought we were on the Atlantic coast, as Brazil doesn't border the pacific, that would be Peru and Chile or their alt world equivalents.
As I just said,I thought we were on the east because I just said Brazil doesn't border the pacific, the pacific is still the pacific. If realized we were in choke I would never have votes for any of that stuff.OOC: I thought we were on the Atlantic coast, as Brazil doesn't border the pacific, that would be Peru and Chile or their alt world equivalents.
We aren't calling the big thing west of Chile the Pacific?
Then what is it?
As I just said,I thought we were on the east because I just said Brazil doesn't border the pacific, the pacific is still the pacific. If realized we were in choke I would never have votes for any of that stuff.OOC: I thought we were on the Atlantic coast, as Brazil doesn't border the pacific, that would be Peru and Chile or their alt world equivalents.
We aren't calling the big thing west of Chile the Pacific?
Then what is it?
As for what could have been a counter: Galvaniac fire arms. Gravity propelled bullets that shoot bullets at fraction of light speed. Have the rebel assholes react to that as they try stuff while turned to cheese.
Aside galvaniacs (has other good things) cloning, and my counter idea should the rebels do black hole thing. I say we make a robo double be our puppet as we do our work and build a bomb network. Should they kill us (double) the doubles death triggers bomb.
Use the populace as a human shield that way.
I double doubt it.The apathetic "I'll let my minims dispose of this problem" kind?
Rebels will always arise, besides that, we ONLY conquered half of the world, what kind of overlord would satisfy with that?
Hey GM, if all our current "heros" die will it end the game? I hope not, this has been so much fun:
So, is this now dead?
D
Dogs A.
B girl
B, A feels more appropriate from my point of view, after all without the crystal in Poseidon of the rebels the fact that they can control it becomes less of an issue.
B, A feels more appropriate from my point of view, after all without the crystal in Poseidon of the rebels the fact that they can control it becomes less of an issue.
That's implying that bad guys can shoot.
B, A feels more appropriate from my point of view, after all without the crystal in Poseidon of the rebels the fact that they can control it becomes less of an issue.
That's implying that bad guys can shoot.
Ah, I forgot, plot armor.
Because aside super science we stink.
A: The control crystal!+1
A!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Get that ****ing crystal!
B, check the swamp.
:)
Let's take a gander at grasslands, even if we don't catch them something interesting is likley to happen.
Let's take a gander at grasslands, even if we don't catch them something interesting is likley to happen.
I... don't have plans for extraneous complications. It's all there in the rules.
Let's take a gander at grasslands, even if we don't catch them something interesting is likley to happen.
I... don't have plans for extraneous complications. It's all there in the rules.
I read the rules it's how I came to that conclusion that your disputing.
"zones like Grasslands are loose cannons - you likely will catch the rebels, but might detect something else if they aren't there."
Of course we aren't russling up lions, but what about jaguars and maned wolves? this is South America after all.
i'll vote the mountain...
Just kidding
Nice walk on the grasslands GO
If we don't do the "fine-grain" stuff we can still find them on the run? with regular rolls?
Do we check the swamp? Because I'd like to check the swamp.
Fine-grain the beach, guys?
Anyway, reasoning is that I have far more trust that a negative response from the Plains will be true than that a positive response from it will be.
If they're there, yes. But it's a 5/17 chance (not 5/12, because it's 5 times it's right and 12 times it's wrong, which is 5 to 12 odds but 5/17 chances), and we also got a negative response, which is a 6/7 chance. I trust it more.
I mean, if we think we saw something, there's a less than one third chance we actually did. If we don't see anything, it's very likely that we really truly didn't.
So yes, if they were there, we'd have found them. But it's basically impossible to say that they are there, because almost any situation will lead to us "spotting them".
But remember, we also got a negative on sightings while they were adjacent. Which means we got a negative from the Mountains (the most probable case from it, so who cares) and from the Plains (very unlikely), so I trust that negative result.
Oh. So basically, we just know that according to the swamp, there's nothing in it, the mountains, or the plains, and according to the plains, there's stuff in it, the swamp, and the beach. All using its formulas, so all of them basically equally useless.
Let's go and do a normal search of the beach, then.
I say swamp!
I say swamp!
Scan the swamp, or fine-grain the swamp?
I say swamp!
Scan the swamp, or fine-grain the swamp?
Scan the beach, fine grain the swamp.
Fine-grain the beach.
(It's luck, Blue. I just finished watching Forrest Gump.)
It was two hours between your post and my response...Fine-grain the beach.
(It's luck, Blue. I just finished watching Forrest Gump.)
I SWEAR
HOW DID I GET ONE PLAYER THAT JUST INSTANTLY RESPONDS TO ANYTHING I SAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY!!!!
It was two hours between your post and my response...Fine-grain the beach.
(It's luck, Blue. I just finished watching Forrest Gump.)
I SWEAR
HOW DID I GET ONE PLAYER THAT JUST INSTANTLY RESPONDS TO ANYTHING I SAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY!!!!
Also, I have notifications on.
Fine grain the beach, let's hope they didn't get out.
C
and F
They're using gravity bullshit, in rocks that stay near the beach or in the sea.
(E is also an okay idea, but we should not split our hours a lot)
C, F+1, these make sense to me.
+1 over here. Makes sense to me.
A: There are two trees where there once were three (dogs come here)
B: A cave in a rock is wet
C: A sailboat sails into the wind every day
D: A sign that used to point one way points the other way now (6 hours to cross it)E: There are always more footprints at the beginning of a day than the end(1/6 chance that it is here)
F: Most dunes change but this one stays
Oh no, has this thread died in my absence?
That's okayA: There are two trees where there once were three(1/6 chance that it is here)
B: A cave in a rock is wet (dogs, if the rebels are here the dogs can battle better)
C: A sailboat sails into the wind every dayD: A sign that used to point one way points the other way nowE: There are always more footprints at the beginning of a day than the end(1/6 chance)
F: Most dunes change but this one stays(6 hours to cross it)
Mind explaining why B was correct, and the others incorrect? Other than that that is how it is, of course.
F: Pure coincidence....
F: Pure coincidence....
You do realise that when your opponents have gravity abilities, the fact that a dune stays when all the others don't really should have been a sign that they're messing with it, or something. Say, the dune is a disguise for the entrance to a base. Coincidence is a bad reason.
We spent our 6/6 on that location. Tell us what we found.There's no such thing as coincidence. +1.
We spent our 6/6 on that location. Tell us what we found.There's no such thing as coincidence. +1.
Crystals are linked by entanglement to a control shard, which is easiest at the time of refinement and crystallization - but a link can be broken by subjecting either crystal to a beam of monochromatic, polarized light for a long period of time. Currently the best option is to bombard it with radio waves for 14.03 hours, and the equipment to do that is being moved from the Capital with all possible speed, and should arrive within a week. The time required and frequency of light are inversely proportional, however, and using a visible light beam - such as a laser - would allow near-instantaneous disconnection, with the potential for interesting and humorous tactical deployment.Next stop, laser guns, boys. :D
Crystals are linked by entanglement to a control shard, which is easiest at the time of refinement and crystallization - but a link can be broken by subjecting either crystal to a beam of monochromatic, polarized light for a long period of time. Currently the best option is to bombard it with radio waves for 14.03 hours, and the equipment to do that is being moved from the Capital with all possible speed, and should arrive within a week. The time required and frequency of light are inversely proportional, however, and using a visible light beam - such as a laser - would allow near-instantaneous disconnection, with the potential for interesting and humorous tactical deployment.Next stop, laser guns, boys. :D
First: Which direction the rebels were headed? (west north east northeast up down to hell?)
Info about the traitor, alive parents? Personality? (explosive, calm, smart, dumb, good shooter?)
personal opinion where he thinks they might be headed,
residence of the traitor, knowledge can make us find them again.
She might move
A) To a family house before moving (dumb move, we can even blackmail her)
B) To somewhere she always wanted to visit before moving (another dumb move, we saw your trip megazines lady)
These guys is going to get a death penalty for "Plotting against the military and making hostages multiple times"
We have what?
Military +2 (+1ID +1????? i don't know if the cherubs or the dogs counted, i just put 2 here because you said it in another post)
Tech: +2
Info:0
Political:+2 (-1cherubs +1ID +2 from "beach massacre")
I would say that after F we vote or B or C we shouldn't vote anything that make us have a 0 again or a negative number (the ones that sacrifice 2-3 political), But this -1 for a +? is worth it. Then in the science time we can focus on making research to improve our tech and spying better on people
The fourth wall fell on my head.
I had to expend an extra live to answer this.
So, yes Berate him.
And after we deal with a bunch of silly rebels in the cave we are going to the Cape Horn
That was not what I meant by berate. -_-
More a "make sure this doesn't happen again" type thing. He did his best. Something just to make it clear, "people, be prepared for this stuff, these rebels are no joke".
EDIT: Also, what did you roll for this?
Also, a scathing public denouncement is the military's way of saying "make sure this doesn't happen again". Though I probably should add in those exact words to be clearer.That doesn't mean it's our way of doing so. And it was us doing it. Or at least, people did it under our direct command.
That doesn't mean it's our way of doing so. And it was us doing it. Or at least, people did it under our direct command.
The message is "these bastards have plot armor".That doesn't mean it's our way of doing so. And it was us doing it. Or at least, people did it under our direct command.
The public denouncement was required in order to spread the word to the entire military, giving you a chance at a general competence bonus. The message did not stick.
The message is "these bastards have plot armor".That doesn't mean it's our way of doing so. And it was us doing it. Or at least, people did it under our direct command.
The public denouncement was required in order to spread the word to the entire military, giving you a chance at a general competence bonus. The message did not stick.
F; Ask what the traitor looked like, did she ever talk about her beliefs before the incident.
CAAB
Andesite is complete demolition of physics; we need to keep it to ourselves.
The wormhole is basically a way of showing our strength; we can rip a hole in space.
The rest of the world currently looks down on the concept of "freedom" and "rebels". Mentioning that we've had a few issues with a handful of them may lead to assistance. I mean, so long as the Northerners feel that we've got some good deals with them (speaking of which - let's work on some trade routes), they shouldn't see any reason to support these guys. I mean, if they support these rebels, what would their citizens think? They might start demanding freedom of speech, and democratic elections! The horror! (:P)
Electricity... well, they can see all the things we can do, probably. To simply ignore it as everyday (which it is, for us, kinda) just makes it more enigmatic, and makes them see us as having even more power.
Also, do realize that you are endangering everyone in London. If they bring a wormhole back with them, and the rebels destabilize our end, then, well...Not our fault. We can warn them to set it up in some uninhabited region, anyway, or on a buoy out in the sea, accessible by boat. Problem solved.
...bye-bye Henry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_VIII_of_England).
Also, do realize that you are endangering everyone in London. If they bring a wormhole back with them, and the rebels destabilize our end, then, well...Not our fault. We can warn them to set it up in some uninhabited region, anyway, or on a buoy out in the sea, accessible by boat. Problem solved.
...bye-bye Henry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_VIII_of_England).
It's a hole in space. No shit it's a hazard.Also, do realize that you are endangering everyone in London. If they bring a wormhole back with them, and the rebels destabilize our end, then, well...Not our fault. We can warn them to set it up in some uninhabited region, anyway, or on a buoy out in the sea, accessible by boat. Problem solved.
...bye-bye Henry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_VIII_of_England).
Revealing the destabilization weakness, however, might reveal the existence of andantesite if they demand to know how it happens. We can just go with a generic "hazardous!" claim, which might work.
More votes anyone?
It's a hole in space. No shit it's a hazard.Also, do realize that you are endangering everyone in London. If they bring a wormhole back with them, and the rebels destabilize our end, then, well...Not our fault. We can warn them to set it up in some uninhabited region, anyway, or on a buoy out in the sea, accessible by boat. Problem solved.
...bye-bye Henry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_VIII_of_England).
Revealing the destabilization weakness, however, might reveal the existence of andantesite if they demand to know how it happens. We can just go with a generic "hazardous!" claim, which might work.
More votes anyone?
Well, our side and their side are basically the two points of failure. And ours is heavily guarded. If that side gets destabilized, then we probably already have some huge problems.
CAAB
Hmm...
You said the research station construction is near rebel activity, yes? Could we say that, as a precaution to prevent the rebels from stealing anything, we're relocating that construction to a different location (that just so happens to be a good pickup spot for Magellan)?
I am in favor of C as long as we can send alerts t the nearest military garrisons leaders pre-emptivley.
Hmm...
You said the research station construction is near rebel activity, yes? Could we say that, as a precaution to prevent the rebels from stealing anything, we're relocating that construction to a different location (that just so happens to be a good pickup spot for Magellan)?
I am in favor of C as long as we can send alerts t the nearest military garrisons leaders pre-emptivley.
B: Midia cover is that we found another civilization up our globe, we are putting a nice show of our military and tech (that they don't have) that will be the basis of external trade with these alien land's that will benefit all of the republic, and that some of our superiors thought that the people needed a bit of fun to make a contrast with recent disasters, we can even spare one of our ships to follow they back with small gadgets some diplomats to make trade deals and chart these foreign lands, and a nice group of canons following it, imagine the British when they see their boats being followed by an alien ship, they will think the sailors captured a sea beast
(Make sure no one of the scalated officers had their children/sister abducted)
The agent that just acts for his own against the heroes because he thinks that it's what it should be done or for the greater good?
The viewers usually like this kind of "villian" that breaks the 4th wall
And is the ex-boyfriend of a rebel
The agent that just acts for his own against the heroes because he thinks that it's what it should be done or for the greater good?
The viewers usually like this kind of "villian" that breaks the 4th wall
And is the ex-boyfriend of a rebel
If anyone can find a TvTropes page dedicated to people like Celling, then I will switch my d6 for a d7, no questions asked, substituted into every roll.
The agent that just acts for his own against the heroes because he thinks that it's what it should be done or for the greater good?
The viewers usually like this kind of "villian" that breaks the 4th wall
And is the ex-boyfriend of a rebel
If anyone can find a TvTropes page dedicated to people like Celling, then I will switch my d6 for a d7, no questions asked, substituted into every roll.
Let's see...
There's the Determinator, for one. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Determinator)
And he's clearly a Fourth Wall Observer. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FourthWallObserver)
And I'd be surprised if he's not a Recurring Boss, at least from the rebels' view. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RecurringBoss)
And wemightprobably consider him to have been subject to a Mook Promotion. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MookPromotion)
That enough?
EDIT: Ah, here's the Enigmatic Minion (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EnigmaticMinion), too. Not quite sure if that one counts, though, but hey.
He hasn't really demonstrated exceptional determination...He is deliberately going to attack people that he knows have plot armor, BT.
He hasn't really demonstrated exceptional determination...He is deliberately going to attack people that he knows have plot armor, BT.
So no one wants to vote B then?
So no one wants to vote B then?
Are you voting B or just asking others? You're tiebreak so...
The tie is about gaining a D7 dice this roll (it was a D6) or to let the ceilling get full acess to the fourth wall, where it can help us or do like agent smith and go all grey goo where it can strike even us.
ALL ROLLS? changing my vote
A
shit got a bit dark here, even with all the jokes
So we do not get to vote right now is my main takeaway from this.
shit got a bit dark here, even with all the jokes
I translate this into "I accurately captured the despair of having no control over your own actions and no defence against what fate wants of you"
shit got a bit dark here, even with all the jokes
I translate this into "I accurately captured the despair of having no control over your own actions and no defence against what fate wants of you"
I decided right now that if i ever enter the military and don't die in training camp (what might happen) i'm gonna change my second name to Ceilling
Celling. His name is Celling.
So we do not get to vote right now is my main takeaway from this.
*slams head against wall*
Yes... fluff for the dog thing is still in progress...
So we do not get to vote right now is my main takeaway from this.
*slams head against wall*
Yes... fluff for the dog thing is still in progress...
0.0 is your head okay?
PTW
PTW
Welcome to the nuthouse! Seriously though, more players are better!
I don't tend to post that often, so if it's quiet for a week or so please don't lose hope. Also, a major theme is overuse of cliches in gaming, so a quick jaunt through TvTropes (http://tvtropes.org) may be worth your time.
Also, as you might have noticed, I'm having fun trying out different formats for different events (The Search, Intermissions, Real Time Sieges). Any feedback about this? Also, anyone like the first full-power direct fight scene in this game?
Now that i already posted the ask for reinforcements i can think better.Good idea
Get one of that riot gas (i don't know how to call it in english) and gas-mask for the entire squadrom (dogs won't invade)
These "non-lethal" gas bombs in enough quantity can even kill, It killed a bunch of people here in Rio de Janeiro, your face and lungs feel like you ate enough pepper to make you fart fire and the pain made me think slowly, i barely could walk while i felt that the entire road was cosplaying silent hill with a fog because my government decided to throw one of these each meter for about 100m² i dunno.
When all that gas is in position and the squad is with the gas-mask, throw an stupid amount to slowly roll inside the cave, Then invade, invade this shit already throwing some properly lethal granades, keep in formation and shoot everything that moves in front of the squad.
Anyone care to tell me what time zone the forum time is in?
Hmm, good, this way they won't even sleep well, while our soldiers will be well rested when we start throwing gas and invading
We have control on the voice things of the dogs? We can make the dogs yell some bullshitery in 3h, 6h, (if they don't break the devices angrily the first time), make them wake up and get scared from the sudden voice, them tell something about how hated they are by the population and/or simply LAUGH to make they feel uncomfortable. then it will be only silence till next time it will yell again. It will be substituted by the shots later.
While at it we grab info about the local geography, do they only have one way out? If yes, okay, if not quickly call someone to cover that way, never it's too much to be safe.
Dog's intel, do they have adantesite with them?
You're going to sleep, The rebels aren't for the next 16 hours, and i double doubt they slept right before the dogs came *evil giggles*
Do we have anything resembling a laser or a radio strong enough to begin disrupting their adantesite nearby with that shit of 14 hours of work? If yes take it there, let's coordinate the crystal start acting weird and trying to kill them with the gas starting to spread. If it can't come at least together with the soldiers forget about it. It's not worth siege them more than 16 hours, they might discover somethingSpoiler (click to show/hide)
C. We can recover it later if it's not.
Make the blind dog fall back and just keep watching till they let their guard down, If we hear someone going to the entrance call them on a radio in the back of the cave for "negotiate their rendition"
Then, maybe if we hear the guy\girl getting back to the end of the cave we can send one other dog to slowly approach, see if there is someone looking in our direction and/or holding the control. If they are not paying attention not in a position to activate it right now just grab and get away from here.
If unsure just keep the siege and ignore it, we shouldn't risk ourselves breaking the siege and letting them free.
D; Send half our force into the cave have everyone else hold their ground.
E. The captain of the detachment yells for everyone to hit the deck, and the soldiers near him begin firing blindly into the cloud while the ones on the ground form a perimeter of sorts. That's the idea anyway. Plenty of room for awesome stuff to happen and also for stuff to go horribly wrong.
E!
C
What would that even entail? Would we go through a Dragon Break?C
Welcome back, Puppyguard. It's nice to see you around again.
In other news, that didn't help at all.
You have precisely thirty-four minutes before I string you up a rafter by implementing C, D, and E all at the same time, and accepting the consequences.
You have precisely thirty-four minutes before I string you up a rafter by implementing C, D, and E all at the same time, and accepting the consequences.
You have precisely thirty-four minutes before I string you up a rafter by implementing C, D, and E all at the same time, and accepting the consequences.What would that even entail? Would we go through a Dragon Break?
At least we killed the boy and hurt an old man.
Everything till now was a prelude?
Note: blind shots can put a hero on his last words. and not having to throw a 12 to just capture
So we should use this somehow.
I was hoping something like that would happen. The fewer heroes we have the better.Note: blind shots can put a hero on his last words. and not having to throw a 12 to just capture
So we should use this somehow.
And it was more the close range and siege tactics that did it. Heroes can be killed, just not easily.
ABDB;I was hoping something like that would happen. The fewer heroes we have the better.Note: blind shots can put a hero on his last words. and not having to throw a 12 to just capture
So we should use this somehow.
And it was more the close range and siege tactics that did it. Heroes can be killed, just not easily.
D and E I think we should do, I'm not sure about the third. And BT, you can use this, but you'd only be able to count the things you do in this month, starting with this update. Get to work, mate. :P
D and E I think we should do, I'm not sure about the third.
C, E, D.
CDE*shrug*
We essentially have 3 mooks and 2 dogs.
ABE
We need to know where she went to gain plot insight. The plot is obviously one of the more crucial elements to defeating her.
Anyway, bonus to turning due to "you're not dead"?
The first one. If we had done nothing, he'd have died out on the field.
Refusal to cooperate may result in torture and and harder punishments for his daughter
Good to see that you believe so much in a girl that left the fight having a mental breakdown. Her mind is almost a molten puddle, and about the torture...
*Some lights turn out, leaving only one on the top of the tied prisioner*
We were talking about you.
(If he start to look that he will lose sanity before his life, stop for a while)
*through the intercom, from Erin Quill*
Omada, what in nine kinds of hell do you think you're doing?
DAMN, I love these badass old grandpas, plz glass take control of this because I can't ahushsausahsausah :v
Okay, decide tatics ingame as Agent Omada and agent Glass?
*Laughs and let the grandpa alone a long time*
"Okay, let's first see what the boy thinks"
"What do you suggest? Other than info I see no use for him other than setting a trap with his burial, I plan begin with some chinese torture of sleep deprivation, some concussion wounds so no-one can uncover the corpse and see that he wasn't really killed in the fight and a thing that I learned from our militar dictatorship implanted in Brazil, Pau de arara" (parrot stick, stupid name for a horrible thing in this position our government put water in his mouth, not letting someone drowing completely)
*Sees Erin Quills message* hmm, So we wait for the other to wake up, make sure both have their mouths tied to prevent proper communication and lock them in a place with cameras
Other than that next research phase we should suggest a brain reading device. Godamn I have a shit-ton of suggestions for that that i am thinking to write this before research phase just to make sure that I won't lose the chance
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_nZFRCPOPI6o/SiCiWFaYn8I/AAAAAAAABVo/AiawHMp_U8c/s400/pau+de+arara+3.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_nZFRCPOPI6o/SiCiWFaYn8I/AAAAAAAABVo/AiawHMp_U8c/s400/pau+de+arara+3.jpg)
CAAB...huh?
Because I think this might promote maximal public sympathy for our cause.
sorry... Most games do not update this quickly.
Make it in his best interest to give us said infot, such as making him guarantees that we will not lethally punish rebel activities over the next six months if they avoid targeting civilians for example, or let him know about the other rebel we have captured and offer to torture them, say by stripping them naked and tossing them into an icy room for just long enough to avoid inducing hypothermia, and then allowing them to warm up just enough that we can toss them into a seeringly hot metal room without risking their life[tossing them into one right after the other would risk heat shock which could be lethal, which we do not want].
Those might work, since this sort of guy seems like he would be very hard to break under torture and might feed us clever lies, and or simply say what he thinks we want to hear if we get him to start talking anyway.
I WAS NOT TRYING TO WRITE THAT AS ACHARACTER DIALOUGG '-_____- >:( If the prisoner is reading or hearing this, he should not be.
EDIT; Why not offer sam the first option ??? We do not have to be chaotic evil 24/7 we can be lawful evil or chaotic neutral every now and then.
EDIT 2; E ask, sam why editing it wouldn't work or wouldn't be in our best interest. Tell him we will go easy on him from now on if he co-operates...and turn a blind eye to his associates activities in Africa for the next year or so. If there is some VERY good for reason for us not being able to continue interrogating sam like him having a heart attack or use running out of tape on our tape recorder, then A because , really why not?
OOC; I DO KNOW that they arn south america, I just thought that they might have a a network across the hole empire which would include much of africa.
OOC; we are fairly high ranking, right?
OOC; we are fairly high ranking, right?We literally decide basically every important thing. Yes we're high-ranking.
OOC; we are fairly high ranking, right?We literally decide basically every important thing. Yes we're high-ranking.
OOC; we are fairly high ranking, right?We literally decide basically every important thing. Yes we're high-ranking.
Well, OOC you do. Usually you are Erin Quill, who's been put in charge of this entire operation as it's his wormhole. But right now you're just some mook.
OOC; we are fairly high ranking, right?We literally decide basically every important thing. Yes we're high-ranking.
Well, OOC you do. Usually you are Erin Quill, who's been put in charge of this entire operation as it's his wormhole. But right now you're just some mook.
OOC fuck, iggnore what i was trying to say then. Would Quill be totaly fine with some mook who now want to learn more about impersonating him to gain mkore information from a vital prisoner ??? Can we send him a telegraph requesting permission or something ??? Can we call him here ???
“He’s not that dangerous anymore. He’s friendless and alone...”NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO
“He’s not that dangerous anymore. He’s friendless and alone...”NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO
Goddamnit Erin I trusted you to not say stupid stuff like this.
“He’s not that dangerous anymore. He’s friendless and alone...”NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO
Goddamnit Erin I trusted you to not say stupid stuff like this.
“He’s not that dangerous anymore. He’s friendless and alone...”NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO
Goddamnit Erin I trusted you to not say stupid stuff like this.
On another note, will it be possible to make further upgrade to our reliable cyber doggos, After alll their hard work they deserve some kind of rewar right, if not upgrades at least a statue commemorating''The Brave Dogs of The Republic'' or similiar?
Look, one of the motivations of badass grandpa is because he is descendant of the last Brazilian empire's rulers. we can point it as selfish somehow.
If you want any specific physical upgrade, please comment.Cheetah speed or a venomous bite. Preferably both.
The captive's name is Jacob Edlin. He gives us the names of all the major players:
- Jacob Edlin, himself. Reluctantly there, slightly shortish, moved from Antarctica a few years ago. Fell into this entire thing when he followed Anna to a meeting, after which he got dragged to the governor's office on pain of death.
- Anna Drimoxi, blond, kinda short, who got dragged into all this by her father around 2 years ago, and who both boys in La Group have a not-so-subtle crush on.
- Samael "Sam" Drimoxi, your textbook older gentleman and political fanatic, claims (with some validity) to be descended from the original rulers of Alternate Brazil, been covertly planning this for over 20 years, is really mad at the government for various reasons.
- Andrew "A. C." Calvin, popular, tall, wears his hair in a ridiculous slick, slightly cruel and callous, joined the rebellion a few months ago for various political reasons of his own.
He also goes ahead and confirms that they know about the properties of Andantesite, and are planning to destabilize the wormhole in the capital with it.
The ability to actually speak, or at least mimic humanlike sounds with their own mouths, that way they can give us actual reports, perhaps giving them voiceboxes like that of a lyrebird would work. Last I checked they are mute and only play pre recorded audio snippet taunts, I want them toactually be able to taunt the rebels meaningfully, might feak them out a little more. Plus if they have the ability to mimick other sounds they could say create the noise of an explosion in one place to distract the rebs, etc.
Also Adrew Calvin
You told me here.
<snippety snip>
Nice things, IF we have to make the brainwashed heroes kill each other we can make duels as "grandpa vs jacob" as he will have a hard time wanting to kill the man he wanted to be his father-in-law (I don't know if this is the right word for the wife's father) "hey... i killed your daddy, can we still date?"
Or unless there is a non-monogamous culture in antartica we could make the two boys fight "lover vs lover" make the brainwashed guy say something about "hey, so much we did to end up with the government, I married her now, how you feel?" (Note: Don't mention Anna's name, nor let him hear any real sound as Fallacy told")
Government of the Republic, I have undeniable evidence of several of your secret projects, such as the Cherubs, lobotomized and modified child soldiers. It would surely damage your reputation if this information was leaked to several major news sources. The people would be outraged at what you have done to innocent children to turn them into weapons. I expect 100 million in cash to be behind the Acme factory on Elm street within 24 hours.Well, that ain't good.
What do you do?
A: Trace the call and try to figure out where he is!
B: Make ready to pay up
C: Pay up, but stake out the site and trap him
D: Ignore him - nobody will believe the stories anyway.
E: Something more specific...
Makes sense to me. +1.Government of the Republic, I have undeniable evidence of several of your secret projects, such as the Cherubs, lobotomized and modified child soldiers. It would surely damage your reputation if this information was leaked to several major news sources. The people would be outraged at what you have done to innocent children to turn them into weapons. I expect 100 million in cash to be behind the Acme factory on Elm street within 24 hours.Well, that ain't good.What do you do?
A: Trace the call and try to figure out where he is!
B: Make ready to pay up
C: Pay up, but stake out the site and trap him
D: Ignore him - nobody will believe the stories anyway.
E: Something more specific...
A: Good idea, but if we fail, we're in for hurt.
B: There's no guarantee that he won't blackmail us with this again if we do pay up.
C: If I was this guy, I would send a conspirator or minion to the site to get the money instead of going myself.
D: Recipe for disaster.
So E. A combination plan.
E:
1. Work on tracing the call. If this fails,
2. Prepare the money and deliver it to the location. Then 3.
3. When the bloke shows up to take the money, be ready. Don't move against him, but do use our tracking dogs to follow the man back to his lair, where any co-conspirators he has will be located.
4. Regardless of whether we do 1 through 3, prepare to minimize the damage. Produce false counter evidence to be released in the event that this man releases the evidence of our Cherub project. It's possible that the parents of the children we abducted will try to speak up on this issue... if that proves to be the case, 5.
5. Abduct any parents of Cherubs that try to speak up on this issue, use the Cherubification process on them. They will be called Angels.
6. Regardless of whether we do 1 through 5, if we manage to capture this blackmailer after he releases the information, we will use our brainwashing frog on him. He will then be made to recant the data he released about the Cherub project. He was, after all "blackmailed by rebels to slander the glorious Republic", and "under our protection, he agreed to testify against them".
Polygamy is allowed by the Republic but not really practiced. Alternate Brazil has serious social stigma attached to it.
Erin Quill concluded that it would actually be easier to teach lyrebirds to think than to modify dogs to speak. He gets to work on breeding some as translators between dogs and humans, with the added benefit of using them to spy on rebels, a la Jabberjays.
Why did you act like you wanted almost nothing to do with the rebellion before running back into their arms ???
Why did you act like you wanted almost nothing to do with the rebellion before running back into their arms ???
"The old man said something about a lab of his own somewhere? Yes or no"
(If yes)"Where?"
...
Let's put it a different way.
"How much do you know about the law of narrative causality?"
Question number one; What is your favorite color.
Question Number two; Vanilla, chocolate or strawberry?
Question Number three where Is your main base of operations, pretty please ?
and finally
''dO YOU HAVE ANY KNOWLEGE OF PLOT TO RANDSOME THE REPUBLICS SECRETS, such as the fact that half of our soldies are gien socks one size two small ???'
...
Let's put it a different way.
"How much do you know about the law of narrative causality?"
...
Let's put it a different way.
"How much do you know about the law of narrative causality?"
'Tell us how much narrativium the rebels have stored at the moment.''
Ask Andrew:
"Where did you learn about the properties of andesite, anyway?"
"Is anybody else that you know of involved in this fool's errand?" (Y/N)
(if Y): "What do you know about them? Did someone else send you on this goose-chase? Did you ever stop to think about why such foolishness isn't such a good idea?"
(if N): "Take a long, hard look at what remains of the futile resistance you cherish."
"Look at yourself and know that this nation doesn't take kindly to such foolishness. Surely you can't think to change to course of an entire nation by conveniently liquidating few people or objects! Have you no concept of inertia? Next time you try to 'better' your surroundings, think twice about narrowmindedly pursuing your own vendettas and actually come up with a way to shift the course of such a large cultural and economic mass instead of merely delaying it."
"What do you think of [show each member of rebelion (exclude the new woman from the list)]? What do you know about them?"
"What was the next step of your plan?"
"What were your motivations to become a terrorist?"
"You know someone that had a laboratory in the rebellion? Y/N"
if yes "Who?"
"where?"
"Someone else? Who? Where?" repeat
"Did you had other Hiding spots on antartica? yes or no! Where?"
"Weapons storage? yes or no! Where?"
"How much do you know about the law of narrative causality?"*ahem*
"How much do you know about the law of narrative causality?"*ahem*
Blueturtle1134 would like me to inform you that breaking the fourth wall to characters that don't already know is strictly prohibited.
Can we at least ask questions that can help us figure out if he knows?
No. I more wanted to figure out how much he knew. As you have confirmed that amount is 0, the question is answered.
GM interrogations are fun, aren't they? :P
I still want to know his favorite flavor of ice cream though.
Convince him that he never willingly worked with sam. He was clearly coerced somehow.
alsoAlso It matters because we should give him a treat for iving us u all this nice information even though it wasnt willingly, that way there is no way he can call us 'monstrous' or whatever, seeds of doubt are importnt, and icecream seems like a good starting point.
How much time is exactly "short term"? I saw a GM put 1 year as a short term memory :v
...before we go into emotion reversals, I've got a question.
What are the specific parts of the Republic that the rebels are unhappy with? Is there some specific policy or group of policies that they're unhappy with?
Remember guys, just because we're authoritarian does not mean we have to be Evil. It just means we have to be Lawful.
-_- how about we get the actual rebel's opinion....before we go into emotion reversals, I've got a question.
What are the specific parts of the Republic that the rebels are unhappy with? Is there some specific policy or group of policies that they're unhappy with?
Remember guys, just because we're authoritarian does not mean we have to be Evil. It just means we have to be Lawful.
Well, probably the aristocratic corruption despite us being called a republic and the kidnappings, and maybe the fact that we could be doing more for the rest of the world ???
-_- how about we get the actual rebel's opinion....before we go into emotion reversals, I've got a question.
What are the specific parts of the Republic that the rebels are unhappy with? Is there some specific policy or group of policies that they're unhappy with?
Remember guys, just because we're authoritarian does not mean we have to be Evil. It just means we have to be Lawful.
Well, probably the aristocratic corruption despite us being called a republic and the kidnappings, and maybe the fact that we could be doing more for the rest of the world ???
-_- how about we get the actual rebel's opinion....before we go into emotion reversals, I've got a question.
What are the specific parts of the Republic that the rebels are unhappy with? Is there some specific policy or group of policies that they're unhappy with?
Remember guys, just because we're authoritarian does not mean we have to be Evil. It just means we have to be Lawful.
Well, probably the aristocratic corruption despite us being called a republic and the kidnappings, and maybe the fact that we could be doing more for the rest of the world ???
I was just trying to help :-[
...just wondering, but which idiot made us an aristocracy instead of a meritocracy?
Why aren't we fixing this?
B,?
Can the dogs tell them to f*** off?
We should just set up a trap for this mole, although we should keep in mind that they will suspect it so we need to try and be subtle.The problem is, he revealed only the dogs, the cherubs will be a FAR BIGGER problem if he suspects we are gonna to screw him right now.
We need these ideas to keep calling ourselves villians :v
My goal is to take the "evil" out of "evil empire". This will be far easier for us if we can shift it to "order versus chaos" instead of "good versus evil".
Makes sense.
Just to make sure what I'm saying isn't misinterpreted though: rather than lawful evil and chaotic good, I want lawful and chaotic neutral. Reality can't have a clear "good guy" then, and either the rebels lose plot armor or some of our guys gain it.
I am a fan of whichever neutrals sport the better beards then.
Show them uplifted dog DNA. Show them the exceedingly common piece of normal dog DNA. Highlight the areas in both that cause natural high loyalty. Tell the idiots to please stop wasting our time, we're busy trying to stop the rebels.
...did we ever say that it wasn't due to genetics?
*facepalm*
So there's literally nothing we can do other than wait out this idiocy. Grand.
And a while ago you suggested Cherubizing all the parents of the Cherubs, so I have to ask - do you still want to do this?Fuck no.
C A
"We are only paying for the Cherubs. No price change."
Ask how on earth he benefits from releasing that information, does he want to see anarchy that badly ???"We are only paying for the Cherubs. No price change."
Ah, so you have released that of your own accord! My price stands. 200 million.
Oh damn, we have a joker here, he will probably burn the money when he get it
GOD DAMN JUST SOMEONE VOTE TO PAY
-_-Tyrant Leviathan broached the idea, I foolishly supported it.
[phone covered] Who the hell ever thought that the Cherubs could possibly be a good idea?!?
-_-Tyrant Leviathan broached the idea, I foolishly supported it.
[phone covered] Who the hell ever thought that the Cherubs could possibly be a good idea?!?
Do we have any way to trace money ??? IF so we pay, if we have another guaranteed way of tracking him we pay, if no then we should begin a media blackout immediately, this will of course raise suspicions but we can claim that a government take over of the network is a temporary measure to prevent them being hacked and our infrastructure destroyed, which in a sense it is.
My vote is to do that serial number thing, pay him and stake out the area, if he tries to parse this through a third party we take direct control over the radios and televisions if we have the later. We storm newspaper offices with a separate excuse, the point being that he is an existential threat to the regime at this point and that we cannot treat this lightly. Either will do this directly or we will have to take other measures.
My vote is to do that serial number thing, pay him and stake out the area, if he tries to parse this through a third party we take direct control over the radios and televisions if we have the later. We storm newspaper offices with a separate excuse, the point being that he is an existential threat to the regime at this point and that we cannot treat this lightly. Either will do this directly or we will have to take other measures.
"parse"?
You're saying seize the news before or after he releases?
My vote is to do that serial number thing, pay him and stake out the area, if he tries to parse this through a third party we take direct control over the radios and televisions if we have the later. We storm newspaper offices with a separate excuse, the point being that he is an existential threat to the regime at this point and that we cannot treat this lightly. Either will do this directly or we will have to take other measures.
"parse"?
You're saying seize the news before or after he releases?
Dran i may have used the word incorrectly, but basically I meant''If he uses a middle man do not trust it'' and BEFORE, definitely BEFORE.
Can we pick up the loyalists and evacuate to someplace else when the populace rises against us, then wait and let them realize that they have no idea what in nine kinds of hell it is that they're doing?
Let me rephrase that: if we have a legit uprising/revolution/etc. on our hands, can we just say "ok, see you all later, go ahead and figure out how to government for yourselves" and leave for some area with a higher concentration of loyalists??Can we pick up the loyalists and evacuate to someplace else when the populace rises against us, then wait and let them realize that they have no idea what in nine kinds of hell it is that they're doing?
Issue is there's no real revolt yet, just a bunch of concerned citizens. We can't pick out a loyalist segment to lift out. And if we move everyone but those that protest, well... that'll just make it worse.
Let me rephrase that: if we have a legit uprising/revolution/etc. on our hands, can we just say "ok, see you all later, go ahead and figure out how to government for yourselves" and leave for some area with a higher concentration of loyalists??Can we pick up the loyalists and evacuate to someplace else when the populace rises against us, then wait and let them realize that they have no idea what in nine kinds of hell it is that they're doing?
Issue is there's no real revolt yet, just a bunch of concerned citizens. We can't pick out a loyalist segment to lift out. And if we move everyone but those that protest, well... that'll just make it worse.
Let me rephrase that: if we have a legit uprising/revolution/etc. on our hands, can we just say "ok, see you all later, go ahead and figure out how to government for yourselves" and leave for some area with a higher concentration of loyalists??Can we pick up the loyalists and evacuate to someplace else when the populace rises against us, then wait and let them realize that they have no idea what in nine kinds of hell it is that they're doing?
Issue is there's no real revolt yet, just a bunch of concerned citizens. We can't pick out a loyalist segment to lift out. And if we move everyone but those that protest, well... that'll just make it worse.
Yeah, if we get revolution'd we have reasonably good evac plans for everyone of worth. But where would we go? Everyone in Antarctica lives in the Capital, and Brazil is not the most sympathetic place for us.
E; Require him to identify himself, if he convinces us he's harmless, tell him, If he convinces he iss a cive but might be able to spread the info and is untrustworthy from his description when we ask him to then Thats classified If he is someone somewhere even vaugley in the government give him some vauge details but reassure him that barring things going horribly wrong both he and the factory shold be fine.SECRET TEXT CLICK ME: https://imgur.com/a/Zb6qM
Basically consider who he is before responding, ask him to identify himself and go from there.
[I do not know if we have state-owned industry here, and he could be lying about just being a manager]
KefatThis is supposed to be "Kefut", yes?
E; Require him to identify himself, if he convinces us he's harmless, tell him, If he convinces he iss a cive but might be able to spread the info and is untrustworthy from his description when we ask him to then Thats classified If he is someone somewhere even vaugley in the government give him some vauge details but reassure him that barring things going horribly wrong both he and the factory shold be fine.SECRET TEXT CLICK ME: https://imgur.com/a/Zb6qM
Basically consider who he is before responding, ask him to identify himself and go from there.
[I do not know if we have state-owned industry here, and he could be lying about just being a manager]
We don't have state-run industries. He has identified himself as Brufa Deler, manager of the Acme concrete factory on Reta and Kefat streets. This checks out with the records. Nothing to note.
KefatThis is supposed to be "Kefut", yes?
Also, your transparency failed miserably. "Rebel Fraud" and "Utter Fake".
KefatThis is supposed to be "Kefut", yes?
Also, your transparency failed miserably. "Rebel Fraud" and "Utter Fake".
To be quite honest, I was kind of wondering if it was supposed to be as obvious as you (evidently accidentally) made it in order to just confuse us even more. So... basically changes nothing.KefatThis is supposed to be "Kefut", yes?
Also, your transparency failed miserably. "Rebel Fraud" and "Utter Fake".
Dammit, I forgot that Notifications convert to plaintext. In the future I'll have to edit it in later to suppress the notification.
I reserve the right to retcon any and all implications of that message all the way to hell.
To be quite honest, I was kind of wondering if it was supposed to be as obvious as you (evidently accidentally) made it in order to just confuse us even more. So... basically changes nothing.KefatThis is supposed to be "Kefut", yes?
Also, your transparency failed miserably. "Rebel Fraud" and "Utter Fake".
Dammit, I forgot that Notifications convert to plaintext. In the future I'll have to edit it in later to suppress the notification.
I reserve the right to retcon any and all implications of that message all the way to hell.
Hmm, try to get info to know if he is alone on this (if he is we might disappear with him or not) and while we ask if he can't see that if we not do this the stability will be in risk see his backstory, maybe he needs money or have shit somewhere, everyone has his price
“Oh,” he says. “Now I've said that I'm alone and haven't told anyone, which is the cue for you to put me in a big sack and drag me off to be horrifically experimented on, right?”"Not necessarily. We're going to question you a bit more first. After that... maybe. Experimented, yes. Horrifically, no."
Grant the dogs citizenship.+1.
+1 to all this. And yes, the rule of drama makes crossbow bolts, which you can see sticking out of their targets, and which are (hypothetically) less likely to be instantly fatal, more likely to actually hit, while still being able to cripple (at least for a little while).“Oh,” he says. “Now I've said that I'm alone and haven't told anyone, which is the cue for you to put me in a big sack and drag me off to be horrifically experimented on, right?”"Not necessarily. We're going to question you a bit more first. After that... maybe. Experimented, yes. Horrifically, no."Grant the dogs citizenship.+1.
Also: Canine Retirement Program: For good PR and to make our neo-dogs happier, our older dogs may choose to retire(or pseudo-retire, joining the Canine Reserves) with a Republic family chosen by said dog.
And something we really should do:
Academy in Marksmanship(AIM): Those rebels have proved hard to hit with conventional bullets. The Academy in Marksmanship (Academy of Marksmanship uses better grammar, but doesn't have the good acronym) will train our best marksmen into Elite Mooks with ridiculously good aiming skills. They will furthermore be given training in crossbow use to increase the dramatic odds of their hitting. Bonus points if we can create poisoned and explosive crossbow bolts.
Academy in Marksmanship(AIM): Those rebels have proved hard to hit with conventional bullets. The Academy in Marksmanship (Academy of Marksmanship uses better grammar, but doesn't have the good acronym) will train our best marksmen into Elite Mooks with ridiculously good aiming skills. They will furthermore be given training in crossbow use to increase the dramatic odds of their hitting. Bonus points if we can create poisoned and explosive crossbow bolts.
The problem is Conservation of Ninjutsu (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ConservationOfNinjutsu). When I use a crossbow, it works great, but give one to everyone and it’ll be cliched into ineffectiveness. Same for bullets. No matter how hard you train if the plot demands a miss it’ll miss.
Also, my crossbow thing only worked by carefully monitoring and adjusting tropes in the area to make it cause serious injury.
Hm.Quote from: Erin QuillThe problem is Conservation of Ninjutsu (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ConservationOfNinjutsu). When I use a crossbow, it works great, but give one to everyone and it’ll be cliched into ineffectiveness. Same for bullets. No matter how hard you train if the plot demands a miss it’ll miss.
Also, my crossbow thing only worked by carefully monitoring and adjusting tropes in the area to make it cause serious injury.
What do we do about the scientist, who knows what we’re doing with the fake evidence but is now in our office and could be silenced if needed?Do we have enough leftover brainwash-juice to use on him?
Do we have enough leftover brainwash-juice to use on him?
I could go squeeze the frog again if you want.
Oh and the state of the empire thingy really should be updated, It seems way out of date by now.
I am sorry to interrupt by going back to older events on this thread....but mr blueturtle, I call bullshit on the rebel posing as a manager calling us out simply for not being forthcoming, remember, I would have given the exact same response even if I was 100% sure he was a real manager. Why you may ask? Because we do not give out information on troop movements to random civilians, that's why.
I don't rember what we are accusing him off, but I think we should investigate that bar further. Y'know some of the patrons there might have known him.
I don't rember what we are accusing him off, but I think we should investigate that bar further. Y'know some of the patrons there might have known him.
Leaking the information. Read the thread.
"Okay, we will let you go, but first can you answer some questions so we can maybe find the leakage source? I wanna talk first about these photos, and now sign these papers, no, we are totally not gaining time"works with me .
"Okay, we will let you go, but first can you answer some questions so we can maybe find the leakage source? I wanna talk first about these photos, and now sign these papers, no, we are totally not gaining time"
To be specific: For the tech level of the Republic, assume "19th century engineering, late 20th century electronics". So we're still running off steam and trains and coal and stuff, but telegrams are getting replaced with telephones, important records can occasionally be digitized, central energy grid exists, semiconductor science beginning, etc.
Put our guy in observation but "let him go"
And investigate the new guy, routines,workplace, previous records in justice, relationship between this new guy and rebels parents, I don't think the blackmailer has contact with the rebels so directly, nor i think he is an ally, but...
Can we record the telephones? Intercept calls and this stuff?
Monitor him on the distance, see if he is going to the blackmailer money part, don't follow him when he get near the place where we put the money (as he probably put something to notice us there) but watch him when he is going back
If we really found the blackmailer, we will later need to know everyone that is his friend and is in his "business" and imprison everyone at once in one night
This is my fight song!
So we're pulling from other universes now? Two can play at that game.
It's time for Erin to grow into his namesake, as well.
It's time for him to catalyze (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TabletopGame/GeniusTheTransgression).
(Note: I'll be giving detail later. To put it simply: Skafoi and Metatropi focus.)
When some far-seeing scientists reach their Breakthrough, they catch a glimpse of the world As It Could Be. Buoyed with hope of making the world a better place (for their definition of "better") they set to work, filled with frantic energy, to achieve their vision. From honorable captains of industry who work to place a fusion-powered car in every garage, to lunatics eager to replace "undesirables" with pliant robot slaves, the Hoffnungs dream of a world fundamentally changed by the fruits of their Inspiration.
A Hoffnung is defined by hope for a better tomorrow―whatever they call "better," of course. Their attempts to transform the world define them. Hoffnungs are, of all geniuses, those most determined to make their wonders "work" for regular people, and they are often the most proficient at creating objects of mundane science and technology. Whether building wonders, messing around with mundane technology, or looking to "adjust" human society to make it more amenable to the genius' vision, the Principalities are always defined by what they are doing, at any given moment, to make the world they imagine into reality.
Favored Axiom: Metaptropi, the Axiom of Transformation. Principalities are masters of changing the physical world, bending it to conform to what they want to see.Ergo, by default, we have Metaptropi, the science of holograms and transformations, as one of our three main axioms. If we were dealing with my personal Erin Quill, this would be mainly seen via his implants that allow him to move in and out of phase - essentially shifting between a ghost-like form and solid reality - and his gun that turns its targets into solid steel (only for a day, though; he's humane). Our Erin may obtain these eventually, but the former is very high-tier, while the latter is simply not what we need right now.
Derangement: Narcissism. Even the kindest Hoffnung, deep down, believes that he is entirely right and correct, making him dangerous to those who cross him.
A wonder of Metaptropi can be built that turns a target into only one material (or one type of creature). This grants a +2 bonus when using the wonder.
WTF IS GOING ON HERE.
who are we now?
what's the current canon
and what are our options?
ugh. What have you done?
WTF IS GOING ON HERE.
who are we now?
what's the current canon
and what are our options?
ugh. What have you done?
Everything. Enjoy, suckers!
THE CHAOS!! LET'S START A REBELLION AGAINST THE CONSPIRACY TO SAVE THE REPUBLIC, SHALL WE USE THIS SILLY ATTEMPT OF COUP TO GET MORE POWAAAAAAANo Omada, you are the conspiracy to save the Republic.
WTF IS GOING ON HERE.
who are we now?
what's the current canon
and what are our options?
ugh. What have you done?
Everything. Enjoy, suckers!
THE CHAOS!! LET'S START A REBELLION AGAINST THE CONSPIRACY TO SAVE THE REPUBLIC (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SaveTheVillain), SHALL WE USE THIS SILLY ATTEMPT OF COUP TO GET MORE POWAAAAAAA
hmm,
1. Does Ceilling knows about the situation of Erin Quill? In game or because of the fourth wall?
2. The parrots,How much of the 13 hours has passed?( I think i forgot to ask)
3 options
SAM: Don't bother lying. I saw Anna escape. You can't do anything to her and you won't get anything from me.
3 options
SAM: Don't bother lying. I saw Anna escape. You can't do anything to her and you won't get anything from me.
1. Blueturtle forgot this
2. He is faking amnesia
3. He was lying first time about seeing her escaping
E) "Do you not remember?"
So, nobody agrees. Grand.
Actually, Omada changed to A after the "nobody agrees", so we agree now.
Actually, Omada changed to A after the "nobody agrees", so we agree now.
I meant the defecting thing.
Hey, just because we start helping them doesn't mean we have to let our coworkers know were helping them.
Yeah we should join the rebels the republic really must be un-salvageable when the kick out one of their most loyal supporters who was doing his very best to salvage things.
I've come to realize that if Erin joins the rebels against Padelheb, that fits a common plot cliche.Just to make sure you can't get rid of what you said here.
The somewhat mad but moral scientist is rejected from the empire and joins the band of heroes against his former employers.
The fact that an amoral man is in charge of the Republic shifts the tone of the series to white/black (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlackAndWhiteMorality) morality rather than grey/gray (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GreyAndGrayMorality). Padelheb being so bad means that killing him will serve as a logical conclusion to a novel and the rebels will not feel pressured to destabilize the wormhole as well. Conversley, Quill's joining makes the heroes a Five-Man Band (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FiveManBand) (Leader Jacob, Lancer Andrew, Smart Guy Erin, Strongman Sam, Chick Anna).
So now I've talked myself into a pretty mouthtrap. I promised that this series is based on the idea that cliches must be followed and tropes decide who wins.
However, there is now an easy to invoke set of tropes that includes you joining the heroes and the heroes winning along with your goals.
Meaning that you have a straightforward, easy to follow win condition that I cannot author-edit out.
Meaning that you win.
Meaning that I lose.
...Tee hee hee, i'm transparent text!
CARP. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GettingCrapPastTheRadar)
NiceI've come to realize that if Erin joins the rebels against Padelheb, that fits a common plot cliche.Just to make sure you can't get rid of what you said here.
The somewhat mad but moral scientist is rejected from the empire and joins the band of heroes against his former employers.
The fact that an amoral man is in charge of the Republic shifts the tone of the series to white/black (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlackAndWhiteMorality) morality rather than grey/gray (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GreyAndGrayMorality). Padelheb being so bad means that killing him will serve as a logical conclusion to a novel and the rebels will not feel pressured to destabilize the wormhole as well. Conversley, Quill's joining makes the heroes a Five-Man Band (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FiveManBand) (Leader Jacob, Lancer Andrew, Smart Guy Erin, Strongman Sam, Chick Anna).
So now I've talked myself into a pretty mouthtrap. I promised that this series is based on the idea that cliches must be followed and tropes decide who wins.
However, there is now an easy to invoke set of tropes that includes you joining the heroes and the heroes winning along with your goals.
Meaning that you have a straightforward, easy to follow win condition that I cannot author-edit out.
Meaning that you win.
Meaning that I lose.
...Tee hee hee, i'm transparent text!
CARP. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GettingCrapPastTheRadar)
Well, you can't get rid of Game of Thrones man now.
https://explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/d/d7/emoji_sports.png
Yeah, no.
https://explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/d/d7/emoji_sports.png
Yeah, no.
The only thing I can think is to make him less detestable or to have a really good hand in administration giving a "golden age" to the people.
Or whatever, there is always that scene where the heroes and the villians beat a worse villian and then they go back to usual agenda of screwing each others lifes as sam would think that we would allow him to have his monarchy (no way, execute him now) that the aristocracy would be gone (not our job, let's go back increasing the sizes of ants and giving it sentience so we can use them as cheap labor) and that we would not want to suffocate every country in our order creating by consequence a bunch of rebels on the entire world because nobody likes a huge government (who don't want to rule the world?)
(these are the only thing I could think of)
My finding abilities failed. DAMN
I want to play consequence golf, but right now Erin is playing hell escape
Plot twist - I know that you found the hidden text in my last post (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=165258.msg7633038#msg7633038) since it was actually a goo.gl link with attached analytics. I can see that someone clicked the link.So, whoever found Blue's other link, please speak up.
So, did you do it by notifications again or are you just habitually highlighting everything that I say?
P.S. - If I failed miserably again and it WASN'T you, then... sorry.
From PM:Plot twist - I know that you found the hidden text in my last post (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=165258.msg7633038#msg7633038) since it was actually a goo.gl link with attached analytics. I can see that someone clicked the link.So, whoever found Blue's other link, please speak up.
So, did you do it by notifications again or are you just habitually highlighting everything that I say?
P.S. - If I failed miserably again and it WASN'T you, then... sorry.
When I clicked it it just went to XKCD stuff.
https://goo.gl/2jhykK
Well now that hadn't been quite clear from the wording.
Sam with truth serum:
Break his will asking why he tought it was a good idea to destroy entire cities for his sake
What were his motivations for rebellion
Show where he worked before, where is his lab where is his hidding spots
What he knows about adantesite, what was his next step
and the end of the game, where he will cry to not talk, where he thinks anna will go
"You destroyed the legacy of my people - tore down the Brazilian kings - threw us out of our own land with your ships and guns and the Wormhole."
Ehrm, shenme? What?
Fair enough. But don't we only have 1 of these things?
For my sake more than yours, here is a list of all unresolved plot threads.What did I miss?
- Wormhole is being loaded onto a ship following Magellan back to Britain
- The blackmailer is still out there but under surveillance (subverted by Padelheb)
- Ensign Armen has been recovered and wishes to speak to her Cherubized brother
- People are afraid of the dogs now that one has killed a human
- The dogs are slowly being granted citizenship
*squaaaaak* :P
Obviously we should preen our feathers to perfection before striking our beak and talons against the republic/the enemies of the republic!The enemies of the Republic that are the Republic.
"Eh, wazzap, docs?"
"Let me Out pretty please? Squaaak''
attempt opening the cage with our dexterous feet and tongue"Eh, wazzap, docs?""Let me Out pretty please? Squaaak''
There is nobody else in the room! Actions invalidated. Please try again.
Physically and biologically impossible. Rejected. Next?
Physically and biologically impossible. Rejected. Next?
how so? if its a simple sliding lock I cannot see how the parrot cannot grab it unless the cage is mesh so the it cannot stick its toes through the bars.
Nope!
Sing! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH2FK-nWT_s)
EDIT: This is what you get when you put an RTD where we're a parakeet inside a serious game, Blue.
Physically and biologically impossible. Rejected. Next?
how so? if its a simple sliding lock I cannot see how the parrot cannot grab it unless the cage is mesh so the it cannot stick its toes through the bars.
Turning into a mutant ninja parrot. Read the thread.
Physically and biologically impossible. Rejected. Next?
how so? if its a simple sliding lock I cannot see how the parrot cannot grab it unless the cage is mesh so the it cannot stick its toes through the bars.
Turning into a mutant ninja parrot. Read the thread.
I did read the thread though, It never mentioned us as not being an ordinary{at least physically} parrot and those can do this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCJtT_jT8Zc
Nope, just having fun with comedy :P
EDIT: can we make the parakeet immortal?
Can we shunt it into a different universe where we can, then, and then bring it back?
Going to sleep. Night, mates.
[6] - Gone horribly right really, now?
The parrot plays dead.
The guard that just shot gasps. "I killed it!" he exclaims.
He pulls the parrot out of the cage and cradles it in its arms.
Next?
continue flap running away, tell them both that you love them but have an appointment elsewhere that you just cannot miss.Quote the White Rabbit from Alice in Wonderland while doing so.
B to cells, it will be the parrot who kills padehlpbsomething I can't write this properly
You are the best bluetuturtle. Thank ye for this.
I saw 4th and immediately thought we hit the 4th wall.
Go where we were trying to go.
Well then stop having all these damned concussions!
:P
This is what happens when I'm given a mostly-minimalist RTD.
Make the sound of a gasp and a thud.+1 Perhaps we should also call out ''long live the republic, vive le revolution, end the aristocracy, support littlefucker''
Make the sound of a gasp and a thud.
Eh, we're a parrot. It seemed obvious to me.Make the sound of a gasp and a thud.
This is actually the most brilliant suggestion you've given so far. Now I know why we're paying you.
Eh, we're a parrot. It seemed obvious to me.Make the sound of a gasp and a thud.
This is actually the most brilliant suggestion you've given so far. Now I know why we're paying you.
} Distact as many guards as possible so eren quill can rescue himself, do this by becoming airborne and tossing objects into their hair, if possible look for something to help him escape.
Two questions.
1. Does this place have an intercom, and if so, is the voice someone on the other end of the line, or is it an electronic voice, or is it morse code?
2. Can the code for "the rebels are making an escape of some variety" be "Code Shawshank" (as in Shawshank Redemption, with the prison break)?
Well, the map's helpful at least. Tells me that what I'd been planning earlier won't work.
So let's try something different.
Mimic the sound of gunshots and explosions up at the stairs, kind of like a ventriloquist.
Start flying around sounding like the biggest gunfight/bombing/etc. the world will ever have.
Can someone else please come up with an action?
Proppose to one of the guards.Welcome to minimalist RTDs.
You inspired me my friend.Proppose to one of the guards.Welcome to minimalist RTDs.
ABORT!
Say goodbye indeed.
Get out of there, screaming "goodbye!" in an assortment of languages.
Why not? I had a whole 90 seconds.
amusing intermission before the serious stuff comes back.
If not Celling, should we maybe go to the Rebels?
Goodness. . . I guess it is an RtD
Hammerspace.
Also, they don't know that we're Erin's bird.
Three guards with guns and one with a stick arrive at the cubicle. It's a small cubicle, so they're within two feet of you.
Also where'd you get that parrot pic? I couldn't find it by Google. Is it your parrot?
TRY TO AVOID INJURING MORE PEOPLE FFS.
Stop plummeting; I suggest that for now, we just make sure that we can stay at a level height.+1
though actually flying is preferable to a water landing.*ahem*
though actually flying is preferable to a water landing.*ahem*
We would at least be further up. And not diving.
Should we try to leave, stay here, attempt Hammerspace, or commit seppuku?
Should we try to leave, stay here, attempt Hammerspace, or commit seppuku?
Should we try to leave, stay here, attempt Hammerspace, or commit seppuku?
Is demanding our rights as a citizen of the republic not an option?
If this fails peck his eyes out.
If this fails peck his eyes out.
I blame you for most of this situation by making this one vote.
Fly away, but erratically to avoid capture.
As the net goes by us, use the fact that nets inherently have thin pieces to slip into hammerspace.+1
As the net goes by us, use the fact that nets inherently have thin pieces to slip into hammerspace.
Onwards to Celling?
[3] - Partial success
A Hammerspace fluctuation in the way prevents good targeting, although you're reasonably sure you hit the right continent.
You warp to a trashcan. A woman opens it to throw some rotten food in.
Next?
Let's not interact with the woman. Just get out of the trash can and get to a roof or something where we can rest and recover.
*facepalm*
What did I just freaking say.Let's not interact with the woman. Just get out of the trash can and get to a roof or something where we can rest and recover.
"It is. What's it to you?" the woman replies.You, lady, are a grade-A dumbass. Don't you know we're in an evil empire?
"It is. What's it to you?" the woman replies.You, lady, are a grade-A dumbass. Don't you know we're in an evil empire?
"It is. What's it to you?" the woman replies.You, lady, are a grade-A dumbass. Don't you know we're in an evil empire?
The woman will probably roll for defend herself
Wake up
CHARGE AT HIS FACE
YELLING "DEDO NO CU E GRITARIA, CHUPA MINHAS BOLAS ENQUANTO COMO SEUS OLHOS TRAIDOR DA REPUBLICA" to call attention of others ("finger in the ass and outcry, suck my balls while I eat your eyes traitor of republic" in portuguese, don't ask me why, "Dedo no cu e gritaria" somehow became a meme here in Brazil)
Only you get to roll.Not said: we're also stunned. So we're kinda generally screwed right now I think.
The woman will probably roll for defend herself
Wake up
CHARGE AT HIS FACE
YELLING "DEDO NO CU E GRITARIA, CHUPA MINHAS BOLAS ENQUANTO COMO SEUS OLHOS TRAIDOR DA REPUBLICA" to call attention of others ("finger in the ass and outcry, suck my balls while I eat your eyes traitor of republic" in portuguese, don't ask me why, "Dedo no cu e gritaria" somehow became a meme here in Brazil)
"LIIIIIAAAAAAAAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
I'm not sure if GoT or WH40K would be more dangerous.
Armed with fourth-wall knowledge, however, Erin Quill could probably run some psychic circles around the Ruinous Powers. If we do get that, it will be totally and utterly hilarious.Hmn... it would take some kind of tactical geniu-
We never did name the parrot. He's currently advising Celling using his incredible knowledge of conditions in Antarctica, Padelheb's situation, and the fourth wall.
PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THIS AS WHAT WE SAY RIGHT NOW!
Any hints?
Also, was this going to happen regardless?
Hints? Don't think about where the rebels are. They could conceivably hide in all places. Rather, think of where they're going.Check the Marina. There's nothing more dramatic than a boat chase, especially with stolen boats.
Check the Marina. There's nothing more dramatic than a boat chase, especially with stolen boats.
If it's not that, it's going to be Main Street.
Check the Marina. There's nothing more dramatic than a boat chase, especially with stolen boats.
If it's not that, it's going to be Main Street.
+2 ?Check the Marina. There's nothing more dramatic than a boat chase, especially with stolen boats.
If it's not that, it's going to be Main Street.
I +1?
oh god, of the first bet
...
*ahem*
While imprisoning this dude may reduce our empire-wide influence, considering that most of Brazil is pro-Quill and anti-Padelheb, actions against him and his agents would likely be good for our local influence.
Also why does agreeing to help him either help him(the lackey), either help or hinder our influence at random?
E, but also let him know this: We do not recognize Erin Quill as a traitor, we do not recogonize pandelheps coup as legitimate authority, WE are not rebels we are ONE OF THE FEW true bastion of legitimate authority left here, tell that to that snake pandelheb, and inform him that if he wants to avoid civil war that littlefucker would be wise to stay out of our court. Also if He does anything to quill like lop of his head that we shall turn quill into a martyr and a cause to rally behind.+1
LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC!
E, but also let him know this: We do not recognize Erin Quill as a traitor, we do not recogonize pandelheps coup as legitimate authority, WE are not rebels we are ONE OF THE FEW true bastion of legitimate authority left here, tell that to that snake pandelheb, and inform him that if he wants to avoid civil war that littlefucker would be wise to stay out of our court. Also if He does anything to quill like lop of his head that we shall turn quill into a martyr and a cause to rally behind.+1
LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC!
E, but also let him know this: We do not recognize Erin Quill as a traitor, we do not recogonize pandelheps coup as legitimate authority, WE are not rebels we are ONE OF THE FEW true bastion of legitimate authority left here, tell that to that snake pandelheb, and inform him that if he wants to avoid civil war that littlefucker would be wise to stay out of our court. Also if He does anything to quill like lop of his head that we shall turn quill into a martyr and a cause to rally behind.+1
LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC!
That would count as C, not E. Don't try to get out of losing 0.5 INF this way. E would be just making an excuse or feigning incompetence/ignorance.
E, but also let him know this: We do not recognize Erin Quill as a traitor, we do not recogonize pandelheps coup as legitimate authority, WE are not rebels we are ONE OF THE FEW true bastion of legitimate authority left here, tell that to that snake pandelheb, and inform him that if he wants to avoid civil war that littlefucker would be wise to stay out of our court. Also if He does anything to quill like lop of his head that we shall turn quill into a martyr and a cause to rally behind.+1
LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC!
That would count as C, not E. Don't try to get out of losing 0.5 INF this way. E would be just making an excuse or feigning incompetence/ignorance.
Why on earth is there no way to gain influence this way? What about those personnel that share our sentiments?
C with more stuffI approve of this.
Arrest him and put charges of "Threatening familiars of high officers of brazil" If there is no recorder on the place it will be our word against his, it will be a fuckton of diplomatic bullshitery that will take MONTHS legally to solve, even more now that there is no wormhole and they don't have hammerspace parrots
(Check if HE has a recorder and if he has a recorder legally steal his)
For authorities we explain that
> he cames to make sure that there is enough Padelheb influence on his side of the ongoing coup of the state
> we explained that we just don't believed on this and we demanded that Brazil be taken out of this equation as we have bigger problems than greedy people fighting for power
>He decides to THREATEN OUR FAMILY
If us or him have a recorder right now we can use this in our favor we can make a fuckton of copy it and it will be the ultimate proof, we can show on the machetes and turn influence on our side
"PADELHEB OFFICER THREATEN FAMILY OF MILITARY"
"PADELHEB OFFICER SHOWS THAT THERE IS MORE ON THIS THAN PADELHEB SHOWS"
And when it solves we will be remembered as the officer who spit on a traitors face, who took the risks to maintain brazilian government out of danger of a snake, maybe other stories will come to life, as the officer who went alone unarmed in front of the rebels to save his soldiers.
Either way Padelheb will have to:
>prove that it was an big misunderstanding (if there is no record)
>prove that he didn't gave permission of the officer to do that
>prove that he haven't any ties with the arrested guy (And the arrested will probably do anything to be taken out of the prison, what is the charge for threatening a military commander? Death penalty?)
C with more stuffI approve of this.
Arrest him and put charges of "Threatening familiars of high officers of brazil" If there is no recorder on the place it will be our word against his, it will be a fuckton of diplomatic bullshitery that will take MONTHS legally to solve, even more now that there is no wormhole and they don't have hammerspace parrots
(Check if HE has a recorder and if he has a recorder legally steal his)
For authorities we explain that
> he cames to make sure that there is enough Padelheb influence on his side of the ongoing coup of the state
> we explained that we just don't believed on this and we demanded that Brazil be taken out of this equation as we have bigger problems than greedy people fighting for power
>He decides to THREATEN OUR FAMILY
If us or him have a recorder right now we can use this in our favor we can make a fuckton of copy it and it will be the ultimate proof, we can show on the machetes and turn influence on our side
"PADELHEB OFFICER THREATEN FAMILY OF MILITARY"
"PADELHEB OFFICER SHOWS THAT THERE IS MORE ON THIS THAN PADELHEB SHOWS"
And when it solves we will be remembered as the officer who spit on a traitors face, who took the risks to maintain brazilian government out of danger of a snake, maybe other stories will come to life, as the officer who went alone unarmed in front of the rebels to save his soldiers.
Either way Padelheb will have to:
>prove that it was an big misunderstanding (if there is no record)
>prove that he didn't gave permission of the officer to do that
>prove that he haven't any ties with the arrested guy (And the arrested will probably do anything to be taken out of the prison, what is the charge for threatening a military commander? Death penalty?)
Can we get bonus to Sanity and Influence (or at least less loss) if the idea is described in a well thought-out manner that makes sense for why it would work?
I suggest D.
A why not? It will be a nice episode+1. Cue magic and dudes from alternate dimensions.
B, seems like our only chance to learn something/ kill of ceiling either of which might start a new plotline, I spect, and neither of which lose us influence which seems way more important than sanity to me.I think you mean A. Right now, A is "go on the trip" and B is "don't go on the trip".
A why not? It will be a nice episode+1. Cue magic and dudes from alternate dimensions.
Who wants to bet that there's Apokalipsi involved here?
*facepalm*
Is he certain that it's not our fault rather than Erin's? At least to some degree.
I mean, Erin was, last we heard of him, in a jail cell. Unless he's gotten out, I don't think he can be breaking the timeline too badly.
*facepalm*
Is he certain that it's not our fault rather than Erin's? At least to some degree.
I mean, Erin was, last we heard of him, in a jail cell. Unless he's gotten out, I don't think he can be breaking the timeline too badly.
…everyone clap for Glass, he just uncovered the big piece of information I embedded in this one. Yes, Quill being in jail means that Antarctica is no longer off-limits. Fluff writing has begun.
*facepalm*
Is he certain that it's not our fault rather than Erin's? At least to some degree.
I mean, Erin was, last we heard of him, in a jail cell. Unless he's gotten out, I don't think he can be breaking the timeline too badly.
…everyone clap for Glass, he just uncovered the big piece of information I embedded in this one. Yes, Quill being in jail means that Antarctica is no longer off-limits. Fluff writing has begun.
... OH, nice.
*facepalm*
Is he certain that it's not our fault rather than Erin's? At least to some degree.
I mean, Erin was, last we heard of him, in a jail cell. Unless he's gotten out, I don't think he can be breaking the timeline too badly.
…everyone clap for Glass, he just uncovered the big piece of information I embedded in this one. Yes, Quill being in jail means that Antarctica is no longer off-limits. Fluff writing has begun.
... OH, nice.
I swear to God I don't do this on purpose I just say the stuff that seems obvious to me ._.
Oh, hey, by the way, how did NaNoRiMo go, Blue? That was, what, last month?
He absolutely was involved in imprisoning Erin. We're guessing that he's going to be involved in the bioattack, but we don't have a way to be certain right now.
Could we maybe give these guys a rundown of recent events in order to make sure that they know which branch we're on?
...now here's a question: can he narrow down the multiverse based on what we answer with?
Would asking him to draw out what actions might show we're in a specific timeline help? Because I'd like a rundown of what the different timelines have in store for us, and signs that we may be in one or another.
Also, B.
Ok, wait. Let's think of this in terms of probabilities, instead.Here's the test: if we do something that indicates to Padel that we know about the bioweapon, is the proportion of timelines in which
Aaaaand I had forgotten that it's happening in 100% of timelines. I wanted to do a test for independence, but that's not useful in this situation.
Specifically, I wanted to determine if the proportion of timelines in which it happens is equal to the proportion of timelines in which it happens given we try to get Padel to not do it... but since it's 100% either way, that won't work.
We could try to bluff Padel into revealing that he's involved, but that could run the risk of him doing it even worse, of us getting arrested/invaded/whatever, or worse, actually being wrong.
I forget, have we mentioned that Erin is a Reluctant Mad Scientist before? I think we did a list of Celling's tropes, but not Erin's. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ReluctantMadScientist)
Well, yeah, he's not a perfect example of the trope, but just because it's bent a little bit doesn't mean it's broken.I forget, have we mentioned that Erin is a Reluctant Mad Scientist before? I think we did a list of Celling's tropes, but not Erin's. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ReluctantMadScientist)
He absolutely is, but differs in two regards from the picture painted by that trope page:
- He isn't totally neutral and takes an active role in ensuring that his discoveries remain in good hands and that the world is safe for humanity.
- He doesn't subscribe to this "attachments make you weak" stuff; he's married.
And we have a general purpose trope list. Which I posted somewhere up the thread. And I should really get on expanding. I'll post a link when I have time.
Don't worry, only you forgot about the rebels. I still want to defect.
As for the initial choice, it was a relatively small and obvious part of every evil empire that was canceled out in terms of what our bonuses are.
Give David a briefing on the fourth wall (additional control is nice, and I want to know what effect it has on his predictions), then return to base.
They will probably hit the fourth wall by themselves someday, and a bunch of oracles hitting the fourth wall will not end well, let they be just an oracle and hope it don't happen.
And hush to make our teleporting parrot give a brief info to Erin and then go grab the results of timeline peeking
...so both vote A, basically.
Hey, now I should be asleep right now, but you know what I just realized? Padel thought we shouldn't pay the ransom on the information pertaining to the Cherubs.
You know what he's likely dealing with in Antarctica right now?
Riots about the Cherubs.
Hey, now I should be asleep right now, but you know what I just realized? Padel thought we shouldn't pay the ransom on the information pertaining to the Cherubs.
You know what he's likely dealing with in Antarctica right now?
Riots about the Cherubs.
He wanted to make the people angry at Erin because of the Cherubs, but by the way we blinded the guy from TV, I don't know if he remembers very well what he heard on the phone so maybe Erin will have less problems
._.
Dafuq.
I want our best neuroscientists and theoretical physicists doing research into what in nine kinds of hell would have caused this.
Evidently he's not close enough to a working teleporter.
EDIT: also, could we get a copy of their scripture to take a look at for ourselves? Particularly whatever piece refers to "disencursion".
I've decided to send this story on a dive for the "fantasy" side of things.
Are those proposed visible light anti-Andantesite laser guns ever going to happen?
As for the current situation, I want every political office in Brazil (and other regions in South America loyal to us, presumably its entirety) notified of the current situation and current policy, so as to ensure that we don't have any left hand v. right hand situations pop up due to miscommunication. (Presumably, this would mainly be an Information bonus, maybe a Political or Military one)
Also, what was the number of timelines where telling people to wash their hands and stuff caused panic v. number that helped v. number that just didn't have an effect? I want to know what a roll of that would look like. Yes, I realize it may not be 100% accurate because things we did today may have changed the breakdown of timelines from yesterday, and the oracles can only see stuff 24 hours or more ahead, but it's better than a wholly uninformed decisions.
I hope.
“But we need more information. Can we slow the spread of the plague by, say, encouraging hand washing?”
“I’ve tested that. In 68 of the 87 potential timelines, making any public statements about health just encourages panic and actually spreads the plague further, as well as causing social and economical disruption. Only 4 timelines actually contain a decline on plague spread from telling people to wash hands. It’s highly contagious and spreads by air and seems to be mostly moved by carriers traveling long distances. I’ll inform you if these odds change in any way.”
Did we have lasers in the late 20th century?Yeeeees?
No.
We're in South America, that's the point of location that matters.As for the current situation, I want every political office in Brazil (and other regions in South America loyal to us, presumably its entirety) notified of the current situation and current policy, so as to ensure that we don't have any left hand v. right hand situations pop up due to miscommunication. (Presumably, this would mainly be an Information bonus, maybe a Political or Military one)
Just let me clarify that we're in Argentina, not Brazil. I basically picked Brazil as a random South American country to name-drop, but I've always pictured this happening on the Pacific coast. We have small colonies in Brazil, I'll elaborate further later, but Argentina and Chile are where the main population centers are.
Telling them the "current policy" might be a problem as we are not actually in formal rebellion - we're just dragging our feet whenever Padelheb tells us to do something. Making it official... may not sit well. I'll roll it, though. Factor it into the results.
Did we have lasers in the late 20th century?Yeeeees?
No.
The first optical laser was built in 1960. Masers, which are identical with lasers but in a different frequency, existed even earlier. The principles behind lasers, which could in principle have allowed the breakthrough to be made at any time, date back to Einstein.
The reason we didn't use laser guns at that time is not because the technology didn't exist, but because lasers make a phenomenally stupid form of weapon.
We're in South America, that's the point of location that matters.As for the current situation, I want every political office in Brazil (and other regions in South America loyal to us, presumably its entirety) notified of the current situation and current policy, so as to ensure that we don't have any left hand v. right hand situations pop up due to miscommunication. (Presumably, this would mainly be an Information bonus, maybe a Political or Military one)
Just let me clarify that we're in Argentina, not Brazil. I basically picked Brazil as a random South American country to name-drop, but I've always pictured this happening on the Pacific coast. We have small colonies in Brazil, I'll elaborate further later, but Argentina and Chile are where the main population centers are.
Telling them the "current policy" might be a problem as we are not actually in formal rebellion - we're just dragging our feet whenever Padelheb tells us to do something. Making it official... may not sit well. I'll roll it, though. Factor it into the results.
And this is specifically regarding the scientologist guys and other things that aren't specifically against Antarctica, not the anti-Padel stuff.
Basically, it's just "make sure everyone is talking with each other and knows what's going on".
Welcome to the game, Maximum Spin.I kinda put out a call for help on a bunch of Discord servers. So, uh, expect more newcomers.
Welcome to the game, Maximum Spin.I kinda put out a call for help on a bunch of Discord servers. So, uh, expect more newcomers.
I wanted to maximize idea potential for the current event.Welcome to the game, Maximum Spin.I kinda put out a call for help on a bunch of Discord servers. So, uh, expect more newcomers.
Thank you! Thank you thank you!
A signal boost is EXACTLY what the game needs at this point! I was getting REAL tired of writing to a three-person playerbase.
Also, was tired of not knowing what the hell to do and being one of the few decision-makers.
I came too late, still have time to fucking quarantine people that might spread the virus?
Hm, yeah. I'm not sure which plan is better, but since I feel neutral, I will hold off of tying. I abstain.
C D+.
In addition, make a public announcement. It is important to point out we were willing to support them, but that our government does not have a state religion and cannot make an exception for the Children. Unsatisfied, a priest acting of his own accord assaulted our officer in an attempt to scare us into accepting their demands. Let the people know that our government will not give into threats of violence, and even though this assault is regrettable, we believe it the action of a lone cleric and not the church itself. Publicly release information about the cultist, including a picture (possibly a still from our security cameras), and warn all members of our great nation to be wary of this zealot which is both armed and has already critically injured a member of our government. Extend formal request (not demand) to the Children to assist us investigating and locating the terrorist.
Is Celling brazilian or what? If not brazillian we should go to santiago and personally try to catch the first infected
(maybe we should let a note overnight
"prepare med team
got info about outbreak
bio-attack today
annexed with a list of low-immunity individuals who can spread virus further)
Quarantine those guys with weak immunity system listed, wait and prepare for catching patient zero for a way to track who did this and a cure as fast as possible
Review our supplies on medicine an food, we might have to reduce taxes or distribute some kind of medicine that reduces the effects of the sickness
Hmmm, what if we made a different emergency to cut off the viral threat? Hear me out here.
A viral outbreak is limited by it's ability to mutate as it's spread and it's ability to find new hosts. We can do very little about the mutatability of the virus without causing massive panic and distributing medicine and all sorts of things.
So we make it impossible for it to spread. We drum up some other fake scare, maybe even build on the earlier one. Get people to stay inside, put out a fake and scary story. People stay inside, it can't spread. We do a few theatrics with some explosives and smoke and boom, we have a smoke screen for the mobilization of troops, distribution of supplies and medicine, and enough reason to institute a curfew or something similar. Then at the end we defeat the threat and the people see we can defend ourselves and effectively deal with things.
I'm down for rebels. If we set off a few large smoke bombs on bridges, perhaps even an empty government office somewhere, and get some visibility going, then people will talk about it. We of course refuse to comment on it, but someone leaks the info of rebel attacks to the press. We increase security, advise people to stock up on food, medicine, and water and then advise people stay in their homes for the next few days until we can be sure all the "bombs" are disarmed. Easy cover, almost no danger to infrastructure, and if we keep the press far enough away, little chance to be caught lying.
"Someone, get the parrot!"
"Someone, get the parrot!"
You can intercom-call the parrot, I guess.
if not, throw something of the table (a plate/box/vase of flowers/sand/parrot poop) on his eyes
Shoot blindly, trying to hit the pooping parrot. Scream long and exotic curses while doing so.
I've already told him that.Shoot blindly, trying to hit the pooping parrot. Scream long and exotic curses while doing so.
It is not your turn! In addition, that's a terrible idea.
The Current Long-Term Plan, For All Who Wish To Know It:The results, if we successfully make this happen:
- We get the psion crystal that Boon has
- We get Erin back
- We get the crystal to Erin, to be reverse-engineered
- We set it up so that we have a system that, upon activation, broadcasts knowledge of the fourth wall to the world at large
- We convince Padel to order us to activate it in some manner
So, who else here wants to make this happen, even if only to nuke Padel?
- Everyone in the world now knows about the fourth wall, just as Erin Quil hopes
- Padel is nuked with a meteor by the fourth wall because we convinced it it was his fault that this happened, rather than Erin's
- Potential other stuff
Nah, confirmation from Blue that the fourth wall will target Padel if we do this.The Current Long-Term Plan, For All Who Wish To Know It:The results, if we successfully make this happen:
- We get the psion crystal that Boon has
- We get Erin back
- We get the crystal to Erin, to be reverse-engineered
- We set it up so that we have a system that, upon activation, broadcasts knowledge of the fourth wall to the world at large
- We convince Padel to order us to activate it in some manner
So, who else here wants to make this happen, even if only to nuke Padel?
- Everyone in the world now knows about the fourth wall, just as Erin Quil hopes
- Padel is nuked with a meteor by the fourth wall because we convinced it it was his fault that this happened, rather than Erin's
- Potential other stuff
I just think the fabric of reality will explode
Clean my eyes
Also, because of fire alarm water stuff, no longer blind. Pick a different action.
"7/6 required for partial success, everything else is critical failure." - Blueturtle.
Quote"7/6 required for partial success, everything else is critical failure." - Blueturtle.
"I never actually said that." - Blueturtle
“I see, I hear,” he says. “I see and hear what you’re saying. The fourth wall… it’s all true.”See here, we're on the other side of the fourth wall. We know it's true.
He tries to push himself up and fails. “And that’s why I know why this will work.”
He grins. “I know, now, like never before, that Blue wants the Key of Taloc destroyed. I know that it would be too overpowered a weapon. And that’s why he’ll let me do this.”
He reaches over and, manipulating a series of small levers on the Key, removes the power crystal from the center. The malevolent red light glistens in his hand.
He struggles to sit up and raises it over his head. “Harm me and I’ll smash this. Then you have no Key and no way to save Celling. Let me go and your friend may live.”
Don't worry, only you forgot about the rebels. I still want to defect.Yeah and I never forgot about the dogs, my laptops just died is all.
As for the initial choice, it was a relatively small and obvious part of every evil empire that was canceled out in terms of what our bonuses are.
drop parrot over table leg
"anybody, I am being struck by failure, i need help here, boonering, before I depart this body, just ask something, you see the fourth wall now?"
CONTROL BOONERING OVER THE FOURTH WALL AND FORCE HIM INTO SUBMISSION/SAVING CELLING
PTPPROTONMAN PLEASE SHOOT BOONER
PTPPROTONMAN PLEASE SHOOT BOONER
...PTPPROTONMAN PLEASE SHOOT BOONER
Boonering is nigh dead. He doesn't have the power stone. Roboson is the main threat now. He told me he wants to take the Key himself and become the Big Bad of this thing.
Also, your brother can still act this turn.
Dynamic entry!
Dynamic entry!
Will you post the results of my action, btw? :PNot until we can get someone available to potentially intervene before you break the thing we need to save Celling.
Roboson already rolled for that. He's part of the "results" I mentioned that need to be posted.Will you post the results of my action, btw? :PNot until we can get someone available to potentially intervene before you break the thing we need to save Celling.
Will you post the results of my action, btw? :P
Guys seriously just get the key. You don't need to overwhelm him mentally, you just need to steal the damn thing.
Guys seriously just get the key. You don't need to overwhelm him mentally, you just need to steal the damn thing.
He can read our minds. this presents problem for us trying to steal the key as he can just mindfuck(because he has the key) anyone who he can sense is about to try and steal it. Hence my response.
wut.......the he I am talking about IS boonering who should have the glove already.Guys seriously just get the key. You don't need to overwhelm him mentally, you just need to steal the damn thing.
He can read our minds. this presents problem for us trying to steal the key as he can just mindfuck(because he has the key) anyone who he can sense is about to try and steal it. Hence my response.
He only has the power source. You'd need to get the glove from Boonering to fire anything.
I know that you want to overload Booner. But he already took the Key out of the glove. Spin wants to smash it, Robo wants to steal it, and I want one of you guys to get it so that we can make sure that Celling doesn't fucking die.
Paxie, Celling is unconscious. What you need to do is get the gem so that we can cancel the erasure. Once we do that, we can decide what to do with the gem. That can be destruction if we think it's necessary.I know that you want to overload Booner. But he already took the Key out of the glove. Spin wants to smash it, Robo wants to steal it, and I want one of you guys to get it so that we can make sure that Celling doesn't fucking die.
I am divided as ot wether we should destroy it or give it to ceiling then, hence I abstain
Against the guy with the gem!Dynamic entry!
Against whom?
Against the guy with the gem!Dynamic entry!
Against whom?
Yes. Let's not smash the gem right now!
"Well, that's something."
Offer tech and stuff to rebuild what the portal destroyedErm, Miko is not exactly the best person for us to talk to. We're the (designated) Evil Empire; she's the worst example of Lawful Stupid and Knight Templar you've likely ever seen in a paladin.
Tell her that we got in a fight with a guy with an weird mind-blowing crystal
Get info and share some about our worlds
Explain that we are occupied because we are dealing with the worst of the worst and if she want's to talk with our peasants she needs to wait till us deal with a mass murderer of sorts.
She should already be dead, anyway.
So does this mean that Soon's ghost could have finished killing Xykon? You should probably specify the ramifications of this for the setting.
- First off, welcome to South America.
- Second, we just got into a fight with a psion. He's the guy that just shot Merrowitz. Presumably, he's dead now. When the smashed the crystal that let him do his psion stuff, this whole portal thing happened. We don't really know what was involved on your side.
- Third, the most immediate issue we've got is that there's rebels around... somewhere. We happen to be the people in charge here, and they don't like us. Also, what they want to do would end up blowing up and entire continent and all the people on it, which we understandably don't like.
- Additionally, we're technically just one layer of a larger organization. The current top guy took out the old top guy a couple days ago by framing him for treason, despite the fact that the old top guy was really just trying to make sure Bad StuffTM didn't happen. We're still loyal to the old top guy.
- Finally, oracles have two things to say: one, old top guy is supposed to escape from prison in 2 days. Two, new top guy is going to put some death stuff here after our guy gets out. From what we know, it avoids anyone purely from the main continent, but anyone that's even partly South American dies if they catch it. We're currently trying to figure out ways to minimize the death toll, or stop the disease if at all possible.
- Addendum: our old top guy shatters the timeline whenever he's in the area. If we can get him here quickly, we believe that we can stop the disease outright.
Queries:
- What's the situation on your side?
- Who's the ghost?
- Could you please explain what it is you thought was on the other side of the portal?
+1
- First off, welcome to South America.
- Second, we just got into a fight with a psion. He's the guy that just shot Merrowitz. Presumably, he's dead now. When the smashed the crystal that let him do his psion stuff, this whole portal thing happened. We don't really know what was involved on your side.
- Third, the most immediate issue we've got is that there's rebels around... somewhere. We happen to be the people in charge here, and they don't like us. Also, what they want to do would end up blowing up and entire continent and all the people on it, which we understandably don't like.
- Additionally, we're technically just one layer of a larger organization. The current top guy took out the old top guy a couple days ago by framing him for treason, despite the fact that the old top guy was really just trying to make sure Bad StuffTM didn't happen. We're still loyal to the old top guy.
- Finally, oracles have two things to say: one, old top guy is supposed to escape from prison in 2 days. Two, new top guy is going to put some death stuff here after our guy gets out. From what we know, it avoids anyone purely from the main continent, but anyone that's even partly South American dies if they catch it. We're currently trying to figure out ways to minimize the death toll, or stop the disease if at all possible.
- Addendum: our old top guy shatters the timeline whenever he's in the area. If we can get him here quickly, we believe that we can stop the disease outright.
Queries:
- What's the situation on your side?
- Who's the ghost?
- Could you please explain what it is you thought was on the other side of the portal?
I'll take a +1
+1
- First off, welcome to South America.
- Second, we just got into a fight with a psion. He's the guy that just shot Merrowitz. Presumably, he's dead now. When the smashed the crystal that let him do his psion stuff, this whole portal thing happened. We don't really know what was involved on your side.
- Third, the most immediate issue we've got is that there's rebels around... somewhere. We happen to be the people in charge here, and they don't like us. Also, what they want to do would end up blowing up and entire continent and all the people on it, which we understandably don't like.
- Additionally, we're technically just one layer of a larger organization. The current top guy took out the old top guy a couple days ago by framing him for treason, despite the fact that the old top guy was really just trying to make sure Bad StuffTM didn't happen. We're still loyal to the old top guy.
- Finally, oracles have two things to say: one, old top guy is supposed to escape from prison in 2 days. Two, new top guy is going to put some death stuff here after our guy gets out. From what we know, it avoids anyone purely from the main continent, but anyone that's even partly South American dies if they catch it. We're currently trying to figure out ways to minimize the death toll, or stop the disease if at all possible.
- Addendum: our old top guy shatters the timeline whenever he's in the area. If we can get him here quickly, we believe that we can stop the disease outright.
Queries:
- What's the situation on your side?
- Who's the ghost?
- Could you please explain what it is you thought was on the other side of the portal?
I'll take a +1
"Only Acter can save us now!", KJP whispers.
"I think we might be able to help you with something."
B
Is that B to the old question or B to the new?The new one. Why would I answer an old question? :|
Not being a very good troper i leave this to those who are.
E. Inform them that they are working out of their jurisdiction here, given we do not respect panhelbs authority in any capacity and that they should stay out of our way if they want to avoid the empire being torn aprt....
E. Inform them that they are working out of their jurisdiction here, given we do not respect panhelbs authority in any capacity and that they should stay out of our way if they want to avoid the empire being torn aprt....
- That isn't E
- That's got even more potential for backlash than my action and less chance of the plot shifting its favor to us
"Oh, the classic 'I'm not your biggest enemy tactic!' Did you really think we'd fall for it? Well, too bad, rebel scum!"Wait, we're accusing the Antarcticans of being rebels?
"Oh, the classic 'I'm not your biggest enemy tactic!' Did you really think we'd fall for it? Well, too bad, rebel scum!"Wait, we're accusing the Antarcticans of being rebels?
...while I can see this maybe working, I think I'd like to see some ideas first on how to get around the inevitable backdraft we'd get. What things could you think of to "prove" that they're rebels? If we can't do that, what's our Plausible Deniability? How do we get around the fact that they've got the first models of the government-produced masers? Etc.
..."Oh, the classic 'I'm not your biggest enemy tactic!' Did you really think we'd fall for it? Well, too bad, rebel scum!"Wait, we're accusing the Antarcticans of being rebels?
...while I can see this maybe working, I think I'd like to see some ideas first on how to get around the inevitable backdraft we'd get. What things could you think of to "prove" that they're rebels? If we can't do that, what's our Plausible Deniability? How do we get around the fact that they've got the first models of the government-produced masers? Etc.
Maybe we could contact the king directly about pandelhelbs usurpation of power? If we could get another part of the government to recognize him as being rebellious that would greatly help our cause, no?
There is a king, whose position is inherited, and he appoints various Heads and Ministers of various things. They, in turn, appoint various boards and subcomittees that run the government. The king has the final say in all things but usually leaves the day to day running of the country in the capable and reasonable hands of the bureaucracy. There are Barons and Earls, and they appoint similar governments that only have jurisdiction over particular areas.1. Introduce Miko to Karatstoz
King Karatstoz is quite reasonable, but getting old and no longer takes and active part in running his country. The most important appointed officers are the Prime Minister, General of the Army, and Guardian of the State. Padelheb is the GotS, the other two are reasonable but I haven't introduced them yet.
ask about how the goonswarm is going to interfere or not
or if in the 3 days span you all got notice of little finger sending false info to us
"Will you die in the next few days? What about Padelheb?"
what pathogen that our scientists currently understand is most closely related to this new epidemic scale virus?
1) *whisper* stay close, later you point us who is the fuckers who are sold+1
2) holy fuck, blow a castle just to kill a girl?
3) "Any timeline we managed to blow the fucking ship and prevented the outbreak?
or just quarantine the ship and deal with it? or just captured patient zero and find a fucking cure? How many hours we have?"
4) "okay, we don't have too much time, goonswarm is going to be a problem to the operation or not?"
if yes, bring the credit stealer with us, later we convert him to our side, just ask if he thinks that his personal family problems and the revelation that was given to him right now might interfere with his work or if he is sure that he will remain professional here, later he can talk with us
so, what do you think people?+1, sounds like a good idea
my vote is: take padels man and make the docks a bloodbath
so, what do you think people?+1, sounds like a good idea
my vote is: take padels man and make the docks a bloodbath
Can we please find a way to not have every single faction decide that they hate our guts (and give the ones that already do additional ammunition)?
Quickhammering denied, this is not Mafia.Can we please find a way to not have every single faction decide that they hate our guts (and give the ones that already do additional ammunition)?
No.
As the GM, I hereby take the vote as-is.
You have been quickhammered (https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Quickhammer).
Can we just abbandon the current quest and join Magellan?The fact is that it seems inevitable to me that most of my favorite characters are so likely to die at this point that I just cannot be invested in them?Great job, Blue, you just caused Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DarknessInducedAudienceApathy).
Can we just abbandon the current quest and join Magellan?The fact is that it seems inevitable to me that most of my favorite characters are so likely to die at this point that I just cannot be invested in them?
Great job, Blue, you just caused Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DarknessInducedAudienceApathy).
It's mostly how seemingly unstoppable the plague is that is doing it to me.
Also, I really don't care about wenton ceiling anymore or any of these new characters. Elrin Quilt [Tired of using a name that was clearly stolen just for the laughs]Jacob eldin and the Amazing Parrot are the only reasons I still care. Ehh the ride was fun for a while though I will admit that.
{glass stole the nAme not you or at least I thought he had} ......given the real person is a woman I take that back. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1902987/ huh.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Also, is Erin a girl's name? I didn't think it was, but other than my own character, I've only ever seen female Erins in fiction (and none in real life :p).Yes. It's occasionally used for men but much more often for women.
...actually, let's get proof that it's destabilized first. We don't have anything more than Padel's smug word, and I don't place much value on that.+1.
>:( Padelheb you fucker.
Repair it. I'm not partial to being spagettified by a black hole, or having the rest of the city/continent/planet spagetified as well.
+1...actually, let's get proof that it's destabilized first. We don't have anything more than Padel's smug word, and I don't place much value on that.+1.
+1...actually, let's get proof that it's destabilized first. We don't have anything more than Padel's smug word, and I don't place much value on that.+1.
Antarctica is, at this time, likely the most populous location on the planet due to the fact that we're at relatively modern tech while everyone else is only starting the renessiance. Black hole or not, nearly half the world population might die if the wormhole explodes. Additionally, since the city is not situated at the South Pole, yet the damage would cover all of the continent, it must extend to some other continent as well, either the southern sections of South America or Africa or something like half of Australia.>:( Padelheb you fucker.
Repair it. I'm not partial to being spagettified by a black hole, or having the rest of the city/continent/planet spagetified as well.
...I think I actually spent some time explaining that it won't create a big sucking black hole, it'll just nuke the city and sterilize the continent.
Antarctica is, at this time, likely the most populous location on the planet due to the fact that we're at relatively modern tech while everyone else is only starting the renessiance. Black hole or not, nearly half the world population might die if the wormhole explodes. Additionally, since the city is not situated at the South Pole, yet the damage would cover all of the continent, it must extend to some other continent as well, either the southern sections of South America or Africa or something like half of Australia.>:( Padelheb you fucker.
Repair it. I'm not partial to being spagettified by a black hole, or having the rest of the city/continent/planet spagetified as well.
...I think I actually spent some time explaining that it won't create a big sucking black hole, it'll just nuke the city and sterilize the continent.
*facepalm*
That's not an answer.
Can the explosion affect people that are in hammerspace?
Can it penetrate the hammerspace/realspace divide?
No. Well, it was the first idea, but not the current one. I'm thinking of shoving the wormhole into hammerspace.
Mind you, abandon ship is not a terrible idea in the current situation. "Sinking 'verse" is an apt descriptor.
EDIT: ooh, if we left, maybe we could relocate to Middle Earth post-Lord of the Rings! There must be a ton of unemployed orcs that would be perfect for blue-collar work.
("Emperor? No, I'm just the CEO.")
EDIT: ooh, if we left, maybe we could relocate to Middle Earth post-Lord of the Rings! There must be a ton of unemployed orcs that would be perfect for blue-collar work.
("Emperor? No, I'm just the CEO.")
you should decide whether you follow Padelheb or Kirk Summation him or knee him in the groin or whatever.I say we let Erin use his best judgement here. That said, if we could shove Padel into Hammerspace...
you should decide whether you follow Padelheb or Kirk Summation him or knee him in the groin or whatever.I say we let Erin use his best judgement here. That said, if we could shove Padel into Hammerspace...
So why isn't Erin doing this yet?
EDIT: if questioned, we can chalk it up to transdimensional fluctuations as a result of the wormhole's temporary instability. Or whatever other technobabble Erin chooses to confuse people with.
So why isn't he doing it anyway? You've said before that you'd really like to get rid of Padel for being too much of a Big Bad and shoving our guys out of the "Main Antagonist" spot...
...actually, let's get proof that it's destabilized first. We don't have anything more than Padel's smug word, and I don't place much value on that.+1.
you should decide whether you follow Padelheb or Kirk Summation him or knee him in the groin or whatever.I say we let Erin use his best judgement here. That said, if we could shove Padel into Hammerspace...
...then throw the destabilizing wormhole after him...
That is also not the current issue. We're in a military situation here, Paxie. On the trail of the rebels. Just got Goonswarm off our ass, and Padel's man wants to stick his nose in our business.
Cue Fallacy wandering in to tie break.
*facepalm*
Any possibility we could just let Celling do what he thinks is appropriate, taking our suggestions into account?
Tropes we need:
- The Bad Guy Wins
- Invincible Villain
Tropes that may be useful:
- Visionary Villain
- And Then What?/Armor-Piercing Question [in regards to "what do you think is going to happen when you're done?"]
- Villains Never Lie
- Break Them by Talking
- Face-Heel Turn [for certain values of face and heel]
EDIT: Additionally:
- Villain Has a Point
- More Than Mind Control
*shrug*
My only issue is the possibility that Padel hijacks some of our villain tropes and just fucks us all over... but in that case, the "heroes" still lose, so the story as a whole is just broken to pieces from there and we'll have the opportunity to pick up a new role among the remaining shattered pieces.
I've been heavily distracted from this with schoolIt's the same here. I was up until 2 last night working on a research paper draft. :/
I'd like unanimous agreement on this before we do it, though.
hmm, our minimum is 3, it can also give us problems, but it's unlikely that we roll 1 two times,
but there is still a big chance of it screwing it further
fuck it
I AM BEING TO CAUTIONS
REROLL AND TRUST THE CHAOS OF RNG
+1 TO GLASS
hmm, our minimum is 3, it can also give us problems, but it's unlikely that we roll 1 two times,
but there is still a big chance of it screwing it further
fuck it
I AM BEING TO CAUTIONS
REROLL AND TRUST THE CHAOS OF RNG
+1 TO GLASS
You got double fives.
:Dhmm, our minimum is 3, it can also give us problems, but it's unlikely that we roll 1 two times,
but there is still a big chance of it screwing it further
fuck it
I AM BEING TO CAUTIONS
REROLL AND TRUST THE CHAOS OF RNG
+1 TO GLASS
You got double fives.
hmm, our minimum is 3, it can also give us problems, but it's unlikely that we roll 1 two times,
but there is still a big chance of it screwing it further
fuck it
I AM BEING TO CAUTIONS
REROLL AND TRUST THE CHAOS OF RNG
+1 TO GLASS
You got double fives.
That is the moment when you just say "I'M KIDDING SUCKERS" and show us an horrible result?
D.+1
If he wants to take notes, why not let him? He doesn't care who wins or loses, as you said.
And he only interferes in catastrophes.
So, two questions for you. First: what's so wrong with him taking notes, and how would it justify him being killed?
And second - and far more important - what makes you think we're not on the cusp of a catastrophe, if not in the middle of it?
So, two questions for you. First: what's so wrong with him taking notes, and how would it justify him being killed?
And second - and far more important - what makes you think we're not on the cusp of a catastrophe, if not in the middle of it?
I don't always know what to do, Blue. I'm not too big on trying to figure out which of two potential allies we need to screw over.
Also, your link is borked for terms and services problem.
...I will be figuring out what the hell code that is, later, at a computer.
you need https://libraryofbabel.info/ (https://libraryofbabel.info/)
For now, though, goddamnit Blue.
"So, the more we us his suggestions the more he will likely screw us to make sure he knows which timeline he is?"
"Isn't there a way to prevent and protect from his negative side? Yes, it's probably hard to prevent what a precognitive guy is going to do, but not impossible, he probably predicted we giving him to you and whatever other variables, but preventing his moves and using it against him is a bold move that he probably won't feel possible, just use him not the other way around"
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Hmm, yes, it's weird that he decided to help us against the rebels, and not just watching from afar to see what we do so he can discover our timelines
I don't always know what to do, Blue. I'm not too big on trying to figure out which of two potential allies we need to screw over.
Y’know, a library like that one is 100% the type of thing I can see Erin making a physical version of, just for kicks.
Now. Which hex, and which page?
SURPRISE
(I finally got into university so my replies will get more and more irregular than it already was)
...
If A, A2. Just kill him. The longer he's alive, the more leeway he has.
If B, B2.
Act smart guys
act as B but in the end, A
he of course predicted we would go and shoot him,
Approach him questioning in an angry voice "why do you helped our enemies??" make him explain himself but give him a chance to convince us to not kill him and give him authority, he will have many paths to follow and to see, he will not know if we will in fact let him live and give him power (which is a possibility)
in the end we can kill him on A1
From what I know, Robo hasn't been on the forums in a while.
And yes, getting Tzeentch involved would open this situation up to all kinds of terrible.
proplr are geting boring here
proplr are geting boring here
Mostly my fault. I'm working on making it a bit better.
4th wall asshole knows that we play this game, and so as not heores he has disvantage, he should join us for max fun in his life
Erin Quill died. Now he's a ghost. Therefore, magic.
new heroes emerge to prevent global domination~Cue Celling and the parrot~
Erin left SOMETHING behind on brazil? At least, a bit of DNA? we can do A and get rid of these fuckers
we have many more allies there than in antartica, we can send a piece of belongings from Quill to the fantasyland that we are giving weapons to resurrect him
but the wormhole isn't in Brazil, it's going to England right now it might be on the mid of the ocean, just a bunch of people will die and a fuckton of maritime life maybe creating a portal to I don't know, warcraft nagas
If Antarctica explodes, the story moves to the rebels trying to get civilization in order in Brazil. Since Celling's superiors will be dead, he'll have nothing holding him to stay loyal to the (in this scenario, dead) Republic, so he's free to join the good guys. Therefore, Blue can't actually have the wormhole explode if we shift all the mass to Antarctica.
The question is, can we convince Erin to let the wormhole explode in exchange for breaking the story and letting him be remembered by history as the one who tore down this corrupt and monstrous empire?
For that matter, let's see if he can figure out a way to make sure that the explosion doesn't spill over to any other inhabited locations. Either center it at the south pole, or make sure that the only place it spills out to is open ocean.
Blue, can we get a map of the southern hemisphere, where its cities are, where the wormhole's ends are, and the radius of the explosion?
Nope, the republic will be dead but the rebels will try to install a monarchyI feel as if the plot would find some way to blame the Republic for the destruction of Antarctica, and turn this into a “the world is ended get revenge on the people that destroyed it” plot.
We could either try to create our own monarchy or a military dictatorship (in this case, thinking about the actual scenario of our politics here in Brazil it will be unfortunately likely to our real world and fictional world government type to match hehuehusahusahasheuasheuah I don't know why I am laughing I should be thinking in a way to leave the country without money -q)
or try to recover the republic, but THEIR monarchy... hmmm they're isn't exactly heroes, if we make them sign a treaty giving us a fuckton of liberty/power and a parliamentarian monarchy where the royal family will be only a beautiful bullshit it is still worthy
rebels stop being heroes but not turn quite in villians, they live ever after ever, the overlord empire continues with it's capital in south america and return to expand it's borders
new heroes emerge to prevent global domination
new heroes emerge to prevent global domination~Cue Celling and the parrot~
But seriously, if they do that stuff, then we've got a perfect in to setting up our guys as the good guys.
You are terrible at hiding links, Blue.
So, you are now considering exploding Antarctica. Now what?
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So let's chose C and try to save everything
if the wormhole explode on both sides will be game over for EVERYONE
for us, for the rebels for little finger
for megallan
for david and goonswarm
and oh, we have other wormholes in antartica right? comunicating with china and some bases on africa
doesn't mean that with the wormhole explosion it will explode the other wormholes and create a chain effect of doom?
if yes, and my sadistic mind is hoping for YES, it will mean
Game over for zulu or something
game over for zing shu xuan or something
and let the earth twist and make Europe understand absolutely nothing when they find empty cities with alien tech
no silk road
no slavery on Americas
the most !!FUN!! outcome possible
Also, have an applicable trope (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FullCircleRevolution)Also, have an applied nope (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DefiedTrope)
E
*shrug*
E+1 "Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. Over."
Wait.
Can someone actually provide another vote.
Because I'm not going off one vote.
And because killing David would derail my plot.
And because killing David would derail my plot.Well now we just have to kill him. +1 to a dead David.
And because killing David would derail my plot.Well now we just have to kill him. +1 to a dead David.
It won't derail the world's plot - that is, the fantasy-like storyline that the laws of this universe strive to create.Damnit. Call it off then.
It won't derail the world's plot - that is, the fantasy-like storyline that the laws of this universe strive to create.Damnit. Call it off then.
A, I have no idea and I just chose at random
Just did so while you posted that.
Rock, I suggest you follow my vote.
DYNAMIC ENTRY!
C+.
"You need to be more careful, David. The potential power the wormhole explosion could put off... you really need to be more careful. Anyways, the message was anonymous. We don't know who sent it, but we wish we did."
A+1. I'd replace the word "Maybe" with "Possibly", though.
A+1. I'd replace the word "Maybe" with "Possibly", though.
Can we cure them?
E: "Because it wouldn't work. He's got precognition, remember?"although i would merge it with A "we are thinking in a way to do that"
...I mean, it’s technically the truth, I guess, on both counts? We’re probably thinking of a way to kill almost anyone. Maybe not just killing one person specifically, but exploding the wormhole would probably kill him dead, right? Along with everyone else in the vicinity of the continent?E: "Because it wouldn't work. He's got precognition, remember?"although i would merge it with A "we are thinking in a way to do that"
"Ok, mate, yes, you've made your point. How's this: just tell us your name."
Ask David or one of our men which way we need to step to not get attacked from behind, and move in that direction.
My point is more "Let's both pretend that we don't have fourth-wall knowledge, and hope that reality doesn't notice that we do.""Ok, mate, yes, you've made your point. How's this: just tell us your name."
Ask David or one of our men which way we need to step to not get attacked from behind, and move in that direction.
So this is the exact thing you want to say? Because this is kinda under C - express agreement, but not fourth-wall knowledge.
check the hidden messages in the forum boardSo. Speaking of.
"Kill prophet leads to an explosion destroys bother"
G Do F because i am curious while saying, "So, don't push the fourth wall so much, and just check the hidden messages in the forum board"
Which is why I asked one of our minions to check behind us and tell us to move if necessary.
"Kill prophet leads to an explosion destroys bother"
G Do F because i am curious while saying, "So, don't push the fourth wall so much, and just check the hidden messages in the forum board"
If you do F, you cannot do anything else.
This is totally not a red herring designed to make you think that there is some content I have planned that will be accessed by taking F, and taking F will absolutely not cause a delay in your response to Goonswarm that will influence the plot in a meaningful way.
Which is why I asked one of our minions to check behind us and tell us to move if necessary.
"Kill prophet leads to an explosion destroys bother"
G Do F because i am curious while saying, "So, don't push the fourth wall so much, and just check the hidden messages in the forum board"
If you do F, you cannot do anything else.
This is totally not a red herring designed to make you think that there is some content I have planned that will be accessed by taking F, and taking F will absolutely not cause a delay in your response to Goonswarm that will influence the plot in a meaningful way.
so... +1 glass plan with the extra part of us telling him to check the hidden message
quv tvx lz qufq pulkv nvkklsd ufz fnnvzz qj quv mjihb fse quv sfqhiv jm quv dfbv quv blqqfsl fnqhfkkx ufz fnnvzz qj quv db qufq lz bv fse fkk quv levfz fse wvklvmz l ujke (https://www.desmos.com/calculator/flgbcbq12z)...what the hell is even the point of putting in a link to the graph of y=17x+5.
quv tvx lz qufq pulkv nvkklsd ufz fnnvzz qj quv mjihb fse quv sfqhiv jm quv dfbv quv blqqfsl fnqhfkkx ufz fnnvzz qj quv db qufq lz bv fse fkk quv levfz fse wvklvmz l ujke (https://www.desmos.com/calculator/flgbcbq12z)...what the hell is even the point of putting in a link to the graph of y=17x+5.
I'd never heard of Affine before. Huh.quv tvx lz qufq pulkv nvkklsd ufz fnnvzz qj quv mjihb fse quv sfqhiv jm quv dfbv quv blqqfsl fnqhfkkx ufz fnnvzz qj quv db qufq lz bv fse fkk quv levfz fse wvklvmz l ujke (https://www.desmos.com/calculator/flgbcbq12z)...what the hell is even the point of putting in a link to the graph of y=17x+5.
Look at the ciphers offered by https://cryptii.com/ (https://cryptii.com/) and it will hit you, loudly.
I'd never heard of Affine before. Huh.quv tvx lz qufq pulkv nvkklsd ufz fnnvzz qj quv mjihb fse quv sfqhiv jm quv dfbv quv blqqfsl fnqhfkkx ufz fnnvzz qj quv db qufq lz bv fse fkk quv levfz fse wvklvmz l ujke (https://www.desmos.com/calculator/flgbcbq12z)...what the hell is even the point of putting in a link to the graph of y=17x+5.
Look at the ciphers offered by https://cryptii.com/ (https://cryptii.com/) and it will hit you, loudly.
"the key is that while celling has access to the forum and the nature of the game the mittani actually has access to the gm that is me and all the ideas and beliefs i hold"
G: "Imposter! I didn't hear even one tilde, and there wasn't anywhere near enough spin (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=118424)!"
F. Have our soldiers scattered to watch for the rebels, but positioned as such that if/when they spot our targets, enough of them can group together quickly enough to actually block the rebels. Presumably, this will mean that we’ll definitely spot the rebels, but our forces will start the battle with fewer men (though they’ll get reinforcements over time as the others get to their position).
F. Have our soldiers scattered to watch for the rebels, but positioned as such that if/when they spot our targets, enough of them can group together quickly enough to actually block the rebels. Presumably, this will mean that we’ll definitely spot the rebels, but our forces will start the battle with fewer men (though they’ll get reinforcements over time as the others get to their position).+1
+1F. Have our soldiers scattered to watch for the rebels, but positioned as such that if/when they spot our targets, enough of them can group together quickly enough to actually block the rebels. Presumably, this will mean that we’ll definitely spot the rebels, but our forces will start the battle with fewer men (though they’ll get reinforcements over time as the others get to their position).+1
Tilde ref: https://pastebin.com/JhENQZqc (NSFW)+1+1F. Have our soldiers scattered to watch for the rebels, but positioned as such that if/when they spot our targets, enough of them can group together quickly enough to actually block the rebels. Presumably, this will mean that we’ll definitely spot the rebels, but our forces will start the battle with fewer men (though they’ll get reinforcements over time as the others get to their position).+1
That's how we transform it in a normal shooter game???
That's how we transform it in a normal shooter game???
What do you mean?
The main character always face a big number of scattered but constant numbers of enemies, that sometimes get's bigger and bigger until he arrives the safe pointAh, got it.
I mean, I’ve already said the things that I could come up with.Maybe have a codeword that we can ask for to make sure that the person who has the radio is the one supposed to have it? I can’t think of a reason it would ever be important, but hey, why not.That would probably just get us false alarms.
Um... you should always be able to see at least one other soldier. If you are looking in a direction and don’t see one of our guys, set a (subtle) alarm in that direction.
Hmn...
EF.
EF
What is “is narid”? (https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1QORqLMzTlWUsqMsy0ycLRFrT5K2pqjoMIGIs3FSN8vc/edit)
(I have no idea if that link was supposed to be invisible or not. It was right above the omega, though.)
EDIT: Yep, it was supposed to be invisible.
A AOk. +1
+1A AOk. +1
EDIT: Blue, with everything you’ve done, want to know what you’ve given us?
Proper dramatic reason for Erin Quill to actually join the rebellion. And with him, Celling.
And with them, basically everything the “Republic” holds that isn’t Antarctica.
Do you board from the side or from the front?
Also, what alley?
EDIT: Wait yes we need to do this. The laws of comedy decree that if we do that, it’ll turn out that we coincidentally picked the boat the rebels are on, and there’ll be a long stretch of awkward silence as we steadily move away from any point where one of our groups could leave.
Ok. Where’s the long boat option, in that case?
EDIT: Also *slaps you all with a gamethreadhubplace* (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=170442.0)
I assure you all, it's better than Blue is trying to imply it is.
Or at least, it has promise to be as such. It isn't much yet, largely because we're only just starting turn 2 and the teams don't have enough people yet.
First off: yes, there was better information in the OP at the start. I do t really know why it was removed and agree that that was pretty dumb.
The allies thing is about being able to share stat and "treasure" bonuses. You can still cooperate with other groups, and from what I've heard there will be ways to set up larger alliances in the future.
600 people + 100 children is the starting population. They're not perfectly skilled; the skills your group has are determined by your group's stats, which was part of the OP that was disappeared. And yes, there are people using child labor. Most of us have it to a degree.
The population grows over time given that you can feed them, and you can recover more people from cryosleep.
Tyrant Leviathan has some kind of problem with autocorrect in literally all of their messages, so yeah, sometimes you need to look at the context and figure out what they meant to say. It's not generally particularly difficult.
Most things are based on a roll of a D20, on what is essentially a roll-under system involving the applicable stat. Combat is done with contested rolls (unlike almost everything else), and has more modifiers (equipment, strategies, etc.), generally from stuff in the Arms Race section of the game.
Have I answered your questions and concerns?
(The reason I think the other possible leader skills need to get put back in is because other players can also get their own characters, who get to have two of the skills.)
There's no invisible text in any of Blue's posts. Pretty sure they're legit.
I highlighted them all.
Unless the (perfectly comprehensible) things that you said before were somehow in code, there wasn't anything you said.
My notifications just tell me that the thread got a new post.I highlighted them all.
Unless the (perfectly comprehensible) things that you said before were somehow in code, there wasn't anything you said.
You highlighted them all but that is not enough. This will stump you for a while, but I promise, added content with one of the posts that is not visible by browsing the forums in a normal manner.
I'll give ya a hint - I know that you're looking at the forum directly instead of using email notifications now.
A reply has been posted to a topic you are watching by blueturtle1134.That's what I got when you last posted.
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My notifications just tell me that the thread got a new post.I highlighted them all.
Unless the (perfectly comprehensible) things that you said before were somehow in code, there wasn't anything you said.
You highlighted them all but that is not enough. This will stump you for a while, but I promise, added content with one of the posts that is not visible by browsing the forums in a normal manner.
I'll give ya a hint - I know that you're looking at the forum directly instead of using email notifications now.
You just used to be shitty at making your links invisible.
EDIT: Here's what the emails I get look like:QuoteA reply has been posted to a topic you are watching by blueturtle1134.That's what I got when you last posted.
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I posted a hiddentext and then edited it out instantly. My notifications include the whole response. I intended to store the hidden text as part of the email notification....
I posted a hiddentext and then edited it out instantly. My notifications include the whole response. I intended to store the hidden text as part of the email notification....
-_-
Could you at least try to make sure that your players have the tools to solve a puzzle before putting it through? I didn't even know you could have full-text notifications!
order who is in the charge of the motors to B while we order who has the guns to open fire on the wide ship to sink it while we radio (C) the wide ship "STOP OR YOU WILL SINK"+1
I suggest we do the radio transmission before opening fire, but otherwise yes.
order who is in the charge of the motors to B while we order who has the guns to open fire on the wide ship to sink it while we radio (C) the wide ship "STOP OR YOU WILL SINK"
Tail them for now. Continue attempting contact. If they still don't respond, then we start to shoot.+1
Any good way for us to board them?
+1Tail them for now. Continue attempting contact. If they still don't respond, then we start to shoot.+1
Any good way for us to board them?
E can't we look at the dock while we say to our soldiers to shoot?Ok.
better, send word about the info we got to the little finger's puppet
"better be useful, info on the radio says that there is rebels escaping through the dock, what you see?"
+1E can't we look at the dock while we say to our soldiers to shoot?Ok.
better, send word about the info we got to the little finger's puppet
"better be useful, info on the radio says that there is rebels escaping through the dock, what you see?"
E can't we look at the dock while we say to our soldiers to shoot?
So, sink the ship and radio those minions (later we should send word to the PETA of what little finger did to those poor dogs)
if we choose wrongly we use our future powers
Would we actually be able to use David’s powers in this situation?
“David, what is the probability that the rebels are on the ship?”
D "What happend in the other timelines David"
So, we expressed the orders beforehand for no one to use the ships right?
"so who is on the ship in those timelines?"
Original plan
Order soldiers to shoot and radio fansworth
and you convinced me to join, I maybe will do it later, after I read the stuff and think about something that I want to play but what is the exact problem? just few players? An specific role in which you need someone to take?(I have a fuckton of characters that I haven't felt that I played enough with them before the RPG comes to a eternal halt and be unfortunately abandoned, I probably have someone that might fit perfectly)
So, the pharaoh is coming personally to china with his armies?
WHO is taking care of Egypt?
Someone is closer to Egypt than to china?
Maybe someone could begin to gather influence/kill important folk to dismantle the Cisharn power there, and also reduce their mundane supplies and reinforcements
If I were this future-seer the exact second that I would be captured inside atlantis I would see the future just to see how many magical creatures would give them headache to them. (there are others magical creatures than sindari and Cisharni right?)
So, the pharaoh is coming personally to china with his armies?
WHO is taking care of Egypt?
Someone is closer to Egypt than to china?
Maybe someone could begin to gather influence/kill important folk to dismantle the Cisharn power there, and also reduce their mundane supplies and reinforcements
If I were this future-seer the exact second that I would be captured inside atlantis I would see the future just to see how many magical creatures would give them headache to them. (there are others magical creatures than sindari and Cisharni right?)
C.+1
Plus, "Can you tell where the bullet came from?"
I would vote B
but I also fear that they were expecting this
C
I thought for a second that he discovered the fourth wall, a script that must be followed
your actions might be able to avert the plague, if you use tropes and stuff to do itIs that so? :D (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HealingAndCuringTropes)
Okay, I didn't make it clear because I didn't figure it out - but David's predictions exclude you all. So they'll assume everyone acts as if they just behaved logically without player input. I do this, because otherwise I'd have to predict what you all would say and I can't do that.We understood what you meant.
And the plague is as contagious as measles but as deadly as Ebola - but only in Brazilians, Antarcticans are carriers. And this is a moderately realistic game. So there's likely no easy cure.
And in this world, Tropes Are Tools (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TropesAreTools) - our tools. It doesn't matter if things "should" work somehow. What matters is how the tropes dictate they work.
Dock situation: We go right to the dock, but in the mission report, we say that it’s because of advice from David that we knew the rebels were there.+1
For David: “If you linked up with them, yes, we can tell that you can influence them, but is it two-way? What are the risks?”
"Just track them for now. Maybe try and look at what they're planning, but if it seems that they're noticing you're there, get out."
In other words: A, plus a bit of B and C.
I just re-read Order of the Stick, and realized that at this point, Azure City is actually knee-deep in hobgoblins, and Redcloak has a summoned elephant.I think you may mean “an opportunity”.
You may or may not have a problem on your hands.
I just re-read Order of the Stick, and realized that at this point, Azure City is actually knee-deep in hobgoblins, and Redcloak has a summoned elephant.I think you may mean “an opportunity”.
You may or may not have a problem on your hands.
At the very least, it doesn’t much seem to me that people on either side of the portal really care about it.
But we’re not humans, or don’t look like them. We have noses, for one.I just re-read Order of the Stick, and realized that at this point, Azure City is actually knee-deep in hobgoblins, and Redcloak has a summoned elephant.I think you may mean “an opportunity”.
You may or may not have a problem on your hands.
At the very least, it doesn’t much seem to me that people on either side of the portal really care about it.
I mean, Redcloak is pretty firmly evil and hates humans.
I am very tempted to just destroy everything till only ruins remain, and laugh when the little finger's crew die and their blood joins those of the rebels and goonswarm, and then face the public outrage when they find kids corpses and stuff or whatever, but they can still escape underground so C first yet
How long will the report take? We only need to know if there was a secret entrance, and if so, where. If it won't take long - say, less than 10 seconds - we'll take that first. Otherwise, have them draw a rough map of what they know and listen to Mittani.
We can listen to Mittani and look at a map at the same time, right?
Ok, so Blue, which of our guys is The Scrounger (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheScrounger)? Because there better be at least one.
Right now? Chalk. Or paper. Or something to that effect.
If they found anything worth reporting on, I want a map.
A the report, and say to then for being fast yes or no
GET THE MASERS FIRING!+1
GET THE MASERS FIRING!+1
Not follow what we have, I'll just readGET THE MASERS FIRING!+1
Is your role just to +1 whatever Glass says.
"David, can you check this at all?"
"But can you see anything about the Andantesite? Say, if it were definitely inside the building, where is it most probable it would be? If it were under the docks, where would it probably be?
Actually, can anyone see how the curve of the water is? Maybe we can calculate the center of the distortion!"
"Damn the Redshirts trope.
Hmn...
Don't worry, Cameron (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NominalImportance)! We'll get you!
Now, I want half of the people with the Masers firing toward the rebels, and half of them shooting into the center of the shop's remnants!"
*facepalm*
"They're on the dock, near my position!
I can't see anything in all this damned smoke..."
"Try firing anyway! They've got a powerful psyker, we don't know if we know their full capabilities!"
*cue some Angrish from Celling*
"Can anyone get down below the dock?"
[Whelp, we know where the rebels are, now.]
[...could someone else please give some suggestions?]
I guess shooting down is hard, do we have any sort of backup?
Send those dogs barking and yell "HERE HERE HERE" from one direction to distract them
and put those cherubs to attack them from the other side
If it can't be noiseless make it a macabre entrance where wood explode and the hero-player get a scare jump of an kid jumping in front of him
this way we can buy time for them to recharge and shoot again
Who are best swimmers? these will go seaside
hmmm cherubs use firearms if those can stop working in contact with the water the cherubs are going through the shore not the seaside
otherwise if they have waterproof stuff the best swimmers go seaside
Yes, wolves do swim.Who are best swimmers? these will go seaside
hmmm cherubs use firearms if those can stop working in contact with the water the cherubs are going through the shore not the seaside
otherwise if they have waterproof stuff the best swimmers go seaside
Uh, cherub armor probably makes them sink. Do wolves swim?
Yes, wolves do swim.Who are best swimmers? these will go seaside
hmmm cherubs use firearms if those can stop working in contact with the water the cherubs are going through the shore not the seaside
otherwise if they have waterproof stuff the best swimmers go seaside
Uh, cherub armor probably makes them sink. Do wolves swim?
But just to be clear, the wolves have been brainwashed to obey Padelheb. I want a go/no go on this.nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Jacob is the hero, the others will take the bullets for himSure.
A
A
Jacob is the hero, the others will take the bullets for himSure.
A
A
Make sensJacob is the hero, the others will take the bullets for himSure.
A
A
At least we killed the boy and hurt an old man.
Also <@Glass> , you choice in SPAMOVERLORD won't work because deactivating the Andantesite will just result in the tunnel of water collapsing, drowning everyone under the dock. All your forces will die, and the rebels will be protected by plot armor. You have two hours to convince everyone else of this before I just take the vote as is.Today, on Blue is a Bastard...
Quote from: Blue, over on DiscordAlso <@Glass> , you choice in SPAMOVERLORD won't work because deactivating the Andantesite will just result in the tunnel of water collapsing, drowning everyone under the dock. All your forces will die, and the rebels will be protected by plot armor. You have two hours to convince everyone else of this before I just take the vote as is.Today, on Blue is a Bastard...
Everyone, time to think of a plan B. Current vote just screws us over.
AB
Just say evryone down there to attempt to get up, they could try to flood the area to stop bulletsso I don't want to shoot
Well, damnQuote from: Blue, over on DiscordAlso <@Glass> , you choice in SPAMOVERLORD won't work because deactivating the Andantesite will just result in the tunnel of water collapsing, drowning everyone under the dock. All your forces will die, and the rebels will be protected by plot armor. You have two hours to convince everyone else of this before I just take the vote as is.Today, on Blue is a Bastard...
Everyone, time to think of a plan B. Current vote just screws us over.
TIME'S-AB
Just say evryone down there to attempt to get up, they could try to flood the area to stop bulletsso I don't want to shoot
Well, shoot. Time to change my fluff.
Well, damnQuote from: Blue, over on DiscordAlso <@Glass> , you choice in SPAMOVERLORD won't work because deactivating the Andantesite will just result in the tunnel of water collapsing, drowning everyone under the dock. All your forces will die, and the rebels will be protected by plot armor. You have two hours to convince everyone else of this before I just take the vote as is.Today, on Blue is a Bastard...
Everyone, time to think of a plan B. Current vote just screws us over.
TIME'S-AB
Just say evryone down there to attempt to get up, they could try to flood the area to stop bulletsso I don't want to shoot
Well, shoot. Time to change my fluff.
Us and our men will chase Jacob. Fansworth and his men will try to take the other two.
What part of this is unclear?
There's other places to get under the dock.
Places with stuff like stairs and a lack of artificial gravity bullshit.
Dockmakers aren't stupid.
[The area under the dock is normally submerged]Oh. :|
D.That feels optimistic but I don't have any better idea
"Handcuff the rebels - hands behind their back, not in front - and remove all their weapons. We'll take the Andantesite and deactivate it safely, so that nobody else is hurt and the dock is kept undamaged. David, I want Julia's powers neutralized, if you can do that. If not, just let us know if she's going to try anything."
"Jacob, Anna, Julia, so long as you cooperate, you will not be harmed, but if you attempt to take action to escape or attack us, we will respond in kind. I will say this again, we would rather nobody get hurt here. Am I understood?"
D.That feels optimistic but I don't have any better idea
"Handcuff the rebels - hands behind their back, not in front - and remove all their weapons. We'll take the Andantesite and deactivate it safely, so that nobody else is hurt and the dock is kept undamaged. David, I want Julia's powers neutralized, if you can do that. If not, just let us know if she's going to try anything."
"Jacob, Anna, Julia, so long as you cooperate, you will not be harmed, but if you attempt to take action to escape or attack us, we will respond in kind. I will say this again, we would rather nobody get hurt here. Am I understood?"
Edit: Wait a second, it was a five man band, where are the other 2?
If we could change this from a teen rebel novel to a political thriller, everything would go so much better.
How big is the rebels group?
I can't see it become a political thriler, not if those reels stay sagnificant, they don't have enough political power or connection to be somethingbeside being someone's agents, it's defently a trap, we should separete them as much as possible in the first shot we have.The rebels themselves don't have the clout.
We don't get to decide the genre. But stories can and do change genres. For this specific situation, the Legend Trilogy comes to mind, where the characters start out as rebels and later turn to working to fix the system in a less-violent manner. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/LegendTrilogy)If we could change this from a teen rebel novel to a political thriller, everything would go so much better.
But things don't always go well, do they?
At any rate, you don't get to decide the genre. The framework is there, you can only manipulate tropes by going along with it.
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT; We need to make Padelheb and all his fuckery known to the rebels so that he's the Big Bad in the story, rather than seeing Erin and Celling as that. If we do that, then the narrative becomes nearly forced to work in our favor.
The problem: Blue knows this, and is going to try to remove Padelheb somehow to prevent this from happening. However, once Padel is the Big Bad, Nlue won't be able to do this. So we need to make this information known as quickly as possible.
Does everyone understand? We have an opportunity to show the rebels that there's someone else above Celling, above Erin, someone who's a much bigger problem. Or maybe we don't have it rigbt now, but we'll likely have it soon. When it arrives, we need to take it.
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT; We need to make Padelheb and all his fuckery known to the rebels so that he's the Big Bad in the story, rather than seeing Erin and Celling as that. If we do that, then the narrative becomes nearly forced to work in our favor.
The problem: Blue knows this, and is going to try to remove Padelheb somehow to prevent this from happening. However, once Padel is the Big Bad, Blue won't be able to do this. So we need to make this information known as quickly as possible.
Does everyone understand? We have an opportunity to show the rebels that there's someone else above Celling, above Erin, someone who's a much bigger problem. Or maybe we don't have it rigbt now, but we'll likely have it soon. When it arrives, we need to take it.
EDIT: Additional stuff. Plague, while taking place soon, A. is in fact Padel's fault, and B. is going to be worked as a PR thing where Padel gets credit for getting the cure distributed.
So, we need to distribute it first, while also distributing he information that he plague was Padel's fault.
Blue
But there are two meta forces at work ehre
The plot wants this to turn into a stereotypical adventure novel
And I want to create an enjoyable and long-term game
Ok?
Me
Yep
Normally, since the players are the protagonists, they work together pretty well
But in this case, we're the antagonists to the protagonists, who are NPCs
Thus the conflict
With the players often having to deal with the complications of life that make stories interesting - "we're playing a game, here's the random events that make it interesting" - while also having to deal with seemingly unbeatable "good guy" opponents - "this is a story, and the good guys always win".
We're the protagonists in some ways and the antagonists in others, leading to very confusing and irritating lives
Protagonists of the game, antagonists of the novel
The rebels are antagonists of the game but protagonists of the novel
And Padelheb is antagonist of the game and presently unknown in the novel
But we can change the dynamics of the game by revealing more details in the novel - one might say, by adding a twist.
The twist, in this case, is that Padel is the real enemy, not Erin or Celling.
Blue
Thank you for writing this game's Shmoop article for me, now go home
D.
"Pull up and handcuff the rebels - hands behind their back, not in front - and remove all their weapons. We'll take the Andantesite and deactivate it safely, so that nobody else is hurt and the dock is kept undamaged. David, I want Julia's powers neutralized, if you can do that. If not, just let us know if she's going to try anything."
"Jacob, Anna, Julia, so long as you cooperate, you will not be harmed, but if you attempt to take action to escape or attack us, we will respond in kind. I will say this again, we would rather nobody get hurt here. Am I understood?"
B, then:
C + kinda D = Do C, while surreptitiously trying to get the rebels to understand what's happening and get their advice.
B, then:+1 to this.
C + kinda D = Do C, while surreptitiously trying to get the rebels to understand what's happening and get their advice.
I will go with glass idea
but for me we should separate them, give julia the adantesite control to fight the mitanni and then say that those who don't have the plot armor (anna and whatever) be killed instantly
All the rebels have plot armor. If we try to shoot them now, they'll just escape.+1
This is probably why no evil overlord in the history of ever has actually gone through with "just shoot them". Tying them up in a death trap keeps them occupied for a few hours, while trying to just shoot gem means they're in your hair again so much more quickly.
I say we keep all the rebels together, so that they can all hear what we have to say at once. Part of what we have to say is that "the guards are ordered to shoot you if you try to whisper, as it implies that you are trying by to hide something from us; or, in other words, if it's worth you being secretive about it, it's worth us finding suspicious. You will not be harmed by us or our troops so long as you remain cooperative."
They will also be informed that "Goonswarm has requested that Julia be given to them. I have told them that we will comply, but only to buy us time. We need to know what it is they want with you, Julia, or else we'll be wandering into this mess blind. I'll be honest, I'm extremely suspicious of them."
Now, does anyone have any ideas on how to tell them about Padel?
This is probably why no evil overlord in the history of ever has actually gone through with "just shoot them". Tying them up in a death trap keeps them occupied for a few hours, while trying to just shoot gem means they're in your hair again so much more quickly.
All the rebels have plot armor. If we try to shoot them now, they'll just escape.+1
This is probably why no evil overlord in the history of ever has actually gone through with "just shoot them". Tying them up in a death trap keeps them occupied for a few hours, while trying to just shoot gem means they're in your hair again so much more quickly.
I say we keep all the rebels together, so that they can all hear what we have to say at once. Part of what we have to say is that "the guards are ordered to shoot you if you try to whisper, as it implies that you are trying by to hide something from us; or, in other words, if it's worth you being secretive about it, it's worth us finding suspicious. You will not be harmed by us or our troops so long as you remain cooperative."
They will also be informed that "Goonswarm has requested that Julia be given to them. I have told them that we will comply, but only to buy us time. We need to know what it is they want with you, Julia, or else we'll be wandering into this mess blind. I'll be honest, I'm extremely suspicious of them."
Now, does anyone have any ideas on how to tell them about Padel?
Tell them about Padel as another threat to us, one far, far more sinister than the rebels. If they try to eavesdrop, give a few hints about how they're threatening to destroy us all, rebel and Empire.
E: Just have one of our guys walk right over and listen in.
D: Tweak the radio a bit and pretend that there's jamming going on.
On the phone but isn't there a trope that almost literally Fallacy second part of the suggestion, he will recognise this as a fake out
And I want full disclosure on everything from David when this is done.
Wasn't the staff destroyed?And I want full disclosure on everything from David when this is done.
Wait, what has he withheld before? Like the staff thing, he made no secret out of the fact that he can't predict without a staff.
Wasn't the staff destroyed?And I want full disclosure on everything from David when this is done.
Wait, what has he withheld before? Like the staff thing, he made no secret out of the fact that he can't predict without a staff.
Edit: I not sure but something was destroyed and David lost his prediction ability
Will Mittani recognise a staff?
I don't know. I just want to make absolutely certain.And I want full disclosure on everything from David when this is done.
Wait, what has he withheld before? Like the staff thing, he made no secret out of the fact that he can't predict without a staff.
Haha, no. Even if we had them (since they were all Erin's), fuck no.Will Mittani recognise a staff?
If you question is "can we give him a tree branch and claim it's the staff" no. He knows full well that the only portable version David had was destroyed, and he'll demand David himself. Speaking of which...
MITTANI: I understand you also have a series of chemicals that can bend the will of any man to your wishes? Give me those as well. Enough for two people.
Congratulations on creating a second entity (besides Padel) that's more evil than us, Blue.
MITTANI: "Evil...? I think not. Just... pragmatic..."
Do the you guys realize that he said they will Free the rebels and not attack them?, it will be in no way us two against themHe wants Julia. The rebels decidedly do not want him to have Julia, and we agree with them.
it will be both of them against us
but give them what they want and they will be a lot stronger and a pain in the ass
so cooperate and postpone your plan of mass genocide for laterThere's no need to be condescending right now, Omada.
"Julia, David, go together. We're evacuating you two out of here, unless you think Julia should fight.
Rebels, if you distract us they will get julia and load her up with mind-controlling drugs, so please cooperate and postpone your other plans for later.
Everybody clear? Let's go!"
If we say plans here is mine
We shoot David in non-deadly spot and shout acusingly at him that we had to shoot and kill David because of him saying his plan out-loud.
We find a reason that we yake the "body" and that all three rebels will stay toghter and we give him fake\not nearly enough gas, we get David alive and the rebals have high chance to escape in their ride.
It's not. Ergo, -1If we say plans here is mine
We shoot David in non-deadly spot and shout acusingly at him that we had to shoot and kill David because of him saying his plan out-loud.
We find a reason that we yake the "body" and that all three rebels will stay toghter and we give him fake\not nearly enough gas, we get David alive and the rebals have high chance to escape in their ride.
...wait wait wait. How is this helpful? The rebels get away, and David hates our guts.
Not 100% on this one, but I have this assuumptionsIf we say plans here is mine
We shoot David in non-deadly spot and shout acusingly at him that we had to shoot and kill David because of him saying his plan out-loud.
We find a reason that we yake the "body" and that all three rebels will stay toghter and we give him fake\not nearly enough gas, we get David alive and the rebals have high chance to escape in their ride.
...wait wait wait. How is this helpful? The rebels get away, and David hates our guts.
Not 100% on this one, but I have this assuumptionsIf we say plans here is mine
We shoot David in non-deadly spot and shout acusingly at him that we had to shoot and kill David because of him saying his plan out-loud.
We find a reason that we yake the "body" and that all three rebels will stay toghter and we give him fake\not nearly enough gas, we get David alive and the rebals have high chance to escape in their ride.
...wait wait wait. How is this helpful? The rebels get away, and David hates our guts.
1. We prefer the rebels to be free then him getting Jullia, espacily that she can't do any predictions
2. His man are too prepared for us to breack throgh with brute fource
And we can write it to him on a paper or get a Cacophony Cover-Up
(https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CacophonyCoverUp)
God damn if I knew Cherubs would get so cut to pieces would have not had invented them.You shouldn't have invented them in the first place. It just put us further toward the Evil side of the Good/Evil axis.
God damn if I knew Cherubs would get so cut to pieces would have not had invented them.You shouldn't have invented them in the first place. It just put us further toward the Evil side of the Good/Evil axis.
And away from Lawful, for that matter, since it was abuse of our own citizens.
That what the plot want you to thinkGod damn if I knew Cherubs would get so cut to pieces would have not had invented them.You shouldn't have invented them in the first place. It just put us further toward the Evil side of the Good/Evil axis.
And away from Lawful, for that matter, since it was abuse of our own citizens.
I thought we were supposed to be bad guy though.
We're not "supposed" to be the bad guy. The plot decided that we're the bad guy. We're mostly just Lawful Neutral; we want the country to continue functioning and do well, and EEEEEEEVVIILLL for the sake of evil is counterproductive to that.That what the plot want you to thinkGod damn if I knew Cherubs would get so cut to pieces would have not had invented them.You shouldn't have invented them in the first place. It just put us further toward the Evil side of the Good/Evil axis.
And away from Lawful, for that matter, since it was abuse of our own citizens.
I thought we were supposed to be bad guy though.
Let's put it this way: the story could just as easily been written as the tale of a scientist and a police/military chief who are trying to prevent a powerful group of terrorists from destroying the entire continent while also attempting to stop a corrupt political official from taking full control of the government.
It is, from our perspective.Let's put it this way: the story could just as easily been written as the tale of a scientist and a police/military chief who are trying to prevent a powerful group of terrorists from destroying the entire continent while also attempting to stop a corrupt political official from taking full control of the government.
It could.
But it won't.
But the plot is not from your prespective, unless we go another level up in the meta gameIt is, from our perspective.Let's put it this way: the story could just as easily been written as the tale of a scientist and a police/military chief who are trying to prevent a powerful group of terrorists from destroying the entire continent while also attempting to stop a corrupt political official from taking full control of the government.
It could.
But it won't.
The in-universe plot isn't from our perspective, but the out-of-universe plot is. After all, we're following the story of Erin Quill and Celling.But the plot is not from your prespective, unless we go another level up in the meta gameIt is, from our perspective.Let's put it this way: the story could just as easily been written as the tale of a scientist and a police/military chief who are trying to prevent a powerful group of terrorists from destroying the entire continent while also attempting to stop a corrupt political official from taking full control of the government.
It could.
But it won't.
wow thank you. Have you thought about instituting a national propaganda ministry it did work with Stalin and hitler and the dictatorships that did not do it often fell due to lack of support from the public. [ though maybe after you have survived RNG bullet storm]
Have you thought about instituting a national propaganda ministry it did work with Stalin and hitler and the dictatorships that did not do it often fell due to lack of support from the public.
There's also Littlefinger/Padelheb/Padel (fuck that guy) who is seperate from the "proper Plot" and is therefore allowed to be as much of a ruthless dick as possible without him being hindered by the power of narrativium. He stuck Erin in jail (though relies on him to keep the wormhole from exploding just from day-to-day stuff) (this also cut us off from control of the country) and is actively undermining any and all things good about the empire by virtue of being a horrible person.We can't. And it'd likely just backfire on us, either getting commandeered by Padel or ending up with the rebels tearing it down and enacting that classic "show the populace how terrible their rulers really are!" plot.
Also: we have public support. For normal people, the Southern Republic ("republic") is, quite simply, one of the very best places you can live. Please recall, this is in the 1500s or so; the world hasn't even been circumnavigated yet. We're certainly no worse than any of the European feudal societies, and we have 1900s-modern technology.
...internet.Also: we have public support. For normal people, the Southern Republic ("republic") is, quite simply, one of the very best places you can live. Please recall, this is in the 1500s or so; the world hasn't even been circumnavigated yet. We're certainly no worse than any of the European feudal societies, and we have 1900s-modern technology.
This is true, for the record. I'm going by "we have 20th century engineering, 21st century electronics"
...internet.Also: we have public support. For normal people, the Southern Republic ("republic") is, quite simply, one of the very best places you can live. Please recall, this is in the 1500s or so; the world hasn't even been circumnavigated yet. We're certainly no worse than any of the European feudal societies, and we have 1900s-modern technology.
This is true, for the record. I'm going by "we have 20th century engineering, 21st century electronics"
WE HAVE THE INTERNET.
To be specific: For the tech level of the Republic, assume "19th century engineering, late 20th century electronics". So we're still running off steam and trains and coal and stuff, but telegrams are getting replaced with telephones, important records can occasionally be digitized, central energy grid exists, semiconductor science beginning, etc.
https://www.history.com/news/who-invented-the-internet...internet.Also: we have public support. For normal people, the Southern Republic ("republic") is, quite simply, one of the very best places you can live. Please recall, this is in the 1500s or so; the world hasn't even been circumnavigated yet. We're certainly no worse than any of the European feudal societies, and we have 1900s-modern technology.
This is true, for the record. I'm going by "we have 20th century engineering, 21st century electronics"
WE HAVE THE INTERNET.
EARLY 21st century.
Goddamnit Blue.To be specific: For the tech level of the Republic, assume "19th century engineering, late 20th century electronics". So we're still running off steam and trains and coal and stuff, but telegrams are getting replaced with telephones, important records can occasionally be digitized, central energy grid exists, semiconductor science beginning, etc.
Yeah here. Sorry. I was one century up.
But DARPAnet
Military comms and such
There's still a good reason for it
Ok, thanks.But DARPAnet
Military comms and such
There's still a good reason for it
We'll say that's why you can communicate perfectly with all branches of the military, at any time.
Also, fuck Mittani.
I disagree. It's just an added bonus.Also, fuck Mittani.
This is the important part.
Whelp, right here we apparently have a code. Don't ask me what the heck it is, I don't know. Yes, it came from Blue. Small text, hypothetically invisible, below choice E. (https://libraryofbabel.info/bookmark.cgi?isnarid)
E+, give the adantesite and the controll to the davids/anna's hand and whisper "our survival and their doom is in your hands, make a barrier to defend us, and we will accept negotiation and even look another way for some time"Interesting idea.
Also interesting. Gimme a moment.Whelp, right here we apparently have a code. Don't ask me what the heck it is, I don't know. Yes, it came from Blue. Small text, hypothetically invisible, below choice E. (https://libraryofbabel.info/bookmark.cgi?isnarid)
wait a little, the first letters of each sentence form a phrase, let me see what is written after "last choices"
wait a little, the first letters of each sentence form a phrase, let me see what is written after "last choices"
Punch the Secondborn in the face.
"Get out."
Also, call down another missile.
Oh great, another fucker becoming badder than us?
so right now we have 3 crossovers order of the stick (where is neutral to us and we can probably conquer it)
GOT and sindari/ where we have only bad guys, and none that want's to ally with us
keep evacuating slowly like a comical scene, walking backwards with eyes wide open, talk on the radio "can you keep bombarding things here? we have heavy paranormal stuff while we try to escape"
keep evacuating slowly like a comical scene, walking backwards with eyes wide open, talk on the radio "can you keep bombarding things here? we have heavy paranormal stuff while we try to escape"I'm good with doing this instead of punch.
Also, GOT isn't a real crossover, just an Expy.
Also, GOT isn't a real crossover, just an Expy.
It means we can call the sindari too?
Calling Acter might be better.
That means the godgame one, Blue, not the one from S:I. The one from S:I was a horrible idea.
On the contrary, when praying to Acter previously, you gave a chance for him to arrive.Calling Acter might be better.
That means the godgame one, Blue, not the one from S:I. The one from S:I was a horrible idea.
I am not letting you bring gods into this.
I know, hypocritical right?
I'm the GM I get to do stuff like that.
"High Lord Acter, master of Improvement and Protection, please aid me in my time of need."
Punch him! Punch him!
Like, is Glass a cleric of Acter now?
Plot points to be resolved:
- Interrogating captured rebels
- Armen DeMarco
- Quill and the wormhole
- Plague
- Order of the Stick
Plot points to be resolved:
- Interrogating captured rebels
- Armen DeMarco
- Quill and the wormhole
- Plague
- Order of the Stick
- I think interrogation is a moot point now.
- Who was this person again?
- We're kinda in Brazil.
- PROBLEM PROBLEM PROBLEM
- Neither side of the portal has time for this stuff right now.
- New stuff:
- Padel must die
- Find the Secondborn and get him out of David
- Find the stolen rebels
Do the plot eeven include Padelheb, the rebels still think we are the big evilIt doesn't yet, please see modification to original post.
My point was that the bad guys tropes are on us anywaySo we want them transferred!
Yes, blue's wording looked like their aren't on us now.
Wait
Which is why the "kill Padel" goal was amended to include "(once his evilness is proven)".Yes, blue's wording looked like their aren't on us now.
Wait
Right now, I have a hard time justifying that you are the bad guys. You still get the tropes, but it's starting to turn away.
After Padel dies I have no reservations anymore.
Do not quickhammer.
You are advised to piss off until other ideas are proposed.Do not quickhammer.
Quickhammered, writing fluff...
You are advised to piss off until other ideas are proposed.Do not quickhammer.
Quickhammered, writing fluff...
At least give it a few days.You are advised to piss off until other ideas are proposed.Do not quickhammer.
Quickhammered, writing fluff...
Going by the playerbase at this point, other ideas may NEVER be proposed.
Search parties and try to comunicate with the protinan? +1, maybe even send some soldiers there so we can make sure some of them survives in case the secondborn arrives there
Search parties and try to comunicate with the protinan? +1, maybe even send some soldiers there so we can make sure some of them survives in case the secondborn arrives thereI approve of this.
Call fansworth for a drink later in the day congratulating his good work and to give him info besides he is in padel's tutorage and try to bring him to our side, ask if he has someone brazilian that is dear to him and if yes (and sufficiently drunk) show him secretly a file or two that says of the suspection of involvement of Padel into bringing some sort of bioweapon
in the meantime get info about the portal hurry the soldiers to finish their freaking work and send that ship with wormhole sailing back to England and get reports on how far the brainwashing of the captured had already progressed/ how is the portal business of sending guns and some men to the order of the stick is going
Recon people, not soldiers. If there's evidence of the Secondborn, they GTFO and report back to us about it.Search parties and try to comunicate with the protinan? +1, maybe even send some soldiers there so we can make sure some of them survives in case the secondborn arrives there
Soldiers v.s. the Secondborn?
Hahahano (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HaHaHaNo).
Recon people, not soldiers. If there's evidence of the Secondborn, they GTFO and report back to us about it.Search parties and try to comunicate with the protinan? +1, maybe even send some soldiers there so we can make sure some of them survives in case the secondborn arrives there
Soldiers v.s. the Secondborn?
Hahahano (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HaHaHaNo).
Still. Getting within 50 feet of Cisharni David and living to tell the tale is a HAHAHAno. He has all the mind-raping powers of the Secondborn and can tap into David's Protinam abilities to see you coming.
Still. Getting within 50 feet of Cisharni David and living to tell the tale is a HAHAHAno. He has all the mind-raping powers of the Secondborn and can tap into David's Protinam abilities to see you coming.If they don't come back then we have our answer.
talk with Anna, ask what are her plans, if she doesn't want to deal with the republic and aristocracy we can offer her to have a career dealing with our forces in foreign lands and make a new life there (Talking about the order of the stick universe)
He meant Julia, or whoever the pyrokineticist is.talk with Anna, ask what are her plans, if she doesn't want to deal with the republic and aristocracy we can offer her to have a career dealing with our forces in foreign lands and make a new life there (Talking about the order of the stick universe)
Anna is gone. The Secondborn teleported her away.
We're going to end up here eventually, I just know it. (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight?from=Main.IKnowYouAreInThereSomewhereFight)
BBAB
I like omada's idea here.
ABCB
Edited to better reflect my thoughts upon conversation about the info available with the GM in discord.
Let's start by searching the Andes Mountains.Yea, that a good idea
Maybe we can talk about 4th wall in a way that don't talks about the 4th wall
say that "It's gonna get weird, but it's the best way I can explain without retaliation, some higher members of our world has access to higher beings that control universes, altough to their existence they can be not be important in their own society they tend to create and use ours and others dimensions as playground, they comunicate with some of us, it begins like a schizophrenia, but then you begin to see that EVERYTHING that they talk about is truth, and you manage to know some others peoples with the same power before meeting them in person, David was possessed by a being rented or copied from one of these being to another, so the one that makes rules to our world could have a more interesting story to tell. That's why the protinan has a hard time around Quill, he talked so much with a bunch of these beings that adopted the republic as their own, and the fabric of reality is constantly being shaped by then, using humans as intermediaries. YES, I am omitting info, but it can only be discovered by yourself"
we can give tips later, talk amicably about tropes and stuff until they figure it out
Just finished reading all 122 pages.
Just finished reading all 122 pages.
:o
How long did that take?
Thoroughly search Montevideo.+1, saw what you got in discord
Don't know what you got.. but montevideoWe got Circular Gallifreyan and assistance from other people to translate it.
Don't know what you got.. but montevideoWe got Circular Gallifreyan and assistance from other people to translate it.
Assistance that has now dried up.::)
Assistance that has now dried up.::)
It's barely been two days, Blue. Just because it hasn't happened right now doesn't mean it won't happen.
Remember, you made the two new ones much longer than the first two.
Time constraints, mainly. I'm in college, mate.Assistance that has now dried up.::)
It's barely been two days, Blue. Just because it hasn't happened right now doesn't mean it won't happen.
Remember, you made the two new ones much longer than the first two.
Seems pretty damn dry to me.
Why don't you try to do them yourself?
Soon Kim knelt down to touch his transparent hand to Merrowitz's head. “Lay on hands!” he shouted.
Blue light sizzled down his arm and sprung across his fingers. Nothing happened.
To everyone:
"Listen: David was, at the docks, possessed by a Cisharni, specifically the one known as the Secondborn. They're a powerful - god-like - entity, from a completely separate reality, and one extremely skilled in psionics. I would tell you more if I could, but I'm straining what I'm allowed to say about the subject as-is. I think you'd need Erin if you wanted more information. Regardless, they are exceedingly dangerous, far more than anything else we may be up against.
Now, Fansworth. Part of the reason that the Secondborn was able to invade David's mind is because he - David - was already psychic. Not nearly to the degree of... that, but enough to have limited precognition. I can brief you more on the subject later, but for now, we have some big problems that need to be taken care of."
"Fansworth, you're a foreign emissary. There is a security limit as to what I'm supposed to say."
"This is far more than anything Erin has worked on. This is not some sort of state secret, some sensitive decision someone made.
Have you noticed, Fansworth, that nearly every time we've tried to fight the rebels, they've escaped? And how, even when we have managed to make gains against them, we've had disproportionate losses of our own men? This has not been a coincidence. There are forces in play here far larger than any man-made organization, no matter how large and influential.
...heh... they say that God doesn't play dice with the universe. They're lying."
Celling sounds tired.
"No. I can't.
No matter how much I want to.
...try to get out of here before you end up like me, Fansworth. This is no place for good men."
Aren't we the bad guys, though?We are bad only because the plot says so
Aren't we the bad guys, though?GODDAMNIT NO.
in the worst of cases, we are the lawful guys under the ruler of stupid/evil rulers from the very begging, we will just change leaders and then tilt a bit to the chaos order in case he start to usurp too much from usJust addressing this part for now: we're Lawful Neutral leaning Good (I think), the rebels are Chaotic Good leaning Chaotic (though unknowingly pursuing a Chaotic Evil goal), and Padel is Lawful Evil leaning Evil.
Yes, the Secondborn is an actual bad guy.
Now, Blue. We didn't say to check the Andes, we said to finely search Montevideo.
EDIT: Furthermore, regarding the Secondborn's offer: hahahahano. Given what we already know about interacting realities, even if he can cast magic himself, he won't be able to teach us magic, or anything of that sort. If he manages to get back to the S:I-verse, it's exceedingly improbable that continued communications will be possible.
Additionally, based on the stars, the Secondborn shouldn't be able to understand jack; the Cisharni have never been to the Southern Hemisphere. Even if he did know about the Southern Hemisphere's stars, he still wouldn't be able to tell, because the night sky shifts over time. He'd need to be able to figure out that he's not only in a completely different place, but also a completely different period of time, by several centuries.
The Secondborn clearly has not broken the Fourth Wall, and does not know of it; he thinks he can get to Atlantis by going to the place it physically would be in. He doesn't actually realize that he's in a different universe.
If he opens a portal, it's going to be a temporary one; there's no way that C2 will open up another reality for everyone to fuck about in, especially not one with relatively advanced technology.
"We do not accept your conditions. I have no reason to think you would stick to them, anyway."
Anyway, since Blue is a stubborn ass: why yes, we really do want to thoroughly search Montevideo.- .... . / ... . -.-. --- -. -.. -... --- .-. -. / .-- .. .-.. .-.. / .... --- .-.. -.. / .... .. ... / . -. -.. / --- ..-. / - .... . / -... .- .-. --. .- .. -.
Hello transparency my old friend/ I've come to Morse with you again"We do not accept your conditions. I have no reason to think you would stick to them, anyway."
Anyone prepared to +1 or debate this?Anyway, since Blue is a stubborn ass: why yes, we really do want to thoroughly search Montevideo.- .... . / ... . -.-. --- -. -.. -... --- .-. -. / .-- .. .-.. .-.. / .... --- .-.. -.. / .... .. ... / . -. -.. / --- ..-. / - .... . / -... .- .-. --. .- .. -.
I get that. Now leave me alone while I come up with ways of limiting the damage of giving you that!
the?secondborn?will?hold?his?end?of?the?bargain...huh, well who's a thunk.
...huh, well who's a thunk.
EDIT2: Now here's a question: will he be willing to hold a bargain that involves Celling and Erin getting imbued into Nu-Cisharni.
And second (and more importantly), would the other Cisharni be willing to hold up the bargain. I suspect not, especially when I think of a certain Quiz.
Even if they can't, we can play dumb about what they can do to empower a normal person :3
Also: "dimgating"? Huh?
Besides saying "nu-cindari" stuff, we can change the words to "demi-god" or "demi entity" it won't raise suspicious, in fact there are tons of ways to give an explanations on why we think they can infuse us with POWAExactly.
If he suspects anything we can say stuff like "some of us in this realm of existence has capacities to ocasionally look into other universes and in the fabric of reality itself, although we can do little about it keep it quiet though, it don't like to be observed somehow. saying too much about it can make this shit collapse. direct mention to it will kill me instantly"We don't say that like that. That's likely to end poorly.
We totally blame Acter, we don't give him any knowledge that we don't need to.
I know.We totally blame Acter, we don't give him any knowledge that we don't need to.
...let's not forget that the Cisharni know an Acter?
I know.We totally blame Acter, we don't give him any knowledge that we don't need to.
...let's not forget that the Cisharni know an Acter?
This can result in a wild goose chase on the Secondborn's part as he tries to find Acter before he realizes that Acter here is the god of improvement, and has essentially nothing to do with teleportation and trade.
Nonono, we don't do that unless he gets really suspicious.I know.We totally blame Acter, we don't give him any knowledge that we don't need to.
...let's not forget that the Cisharni know an Acter?
This can result in a wild goose chase on the Secondborn's part as he tries to find Acter before he realizes that Acter here is the god of improvement, and has essentially nothing to do with teleportation and trade.
So uh, is everyone OK with straight up saying "Acter told us"
Yea, saying we know his enemies is usually a bad ideaNonono, we don't do that unless he gets really suspicious.I know.We totally blame Acter, we don't give him any knowledge that we don't need to.
...let's not forget that the Cisharni know an Acter?
This can result in a wild goose chase on the Secondborn's part as he tries to find Acter before he realizes that Acter here is the god of improvement, and has essentially nothing to do with teleportation and trade.
So uh, is everyone OK with straight up saying "Acter told us"
For now we just obliquely refer to myths of gods empowering mortals.
BBD
The Secondborn likely will find out anyways, so we should tell him sooner rather than later.
Why can't we just send a convoy with the wormhole instead of just one ship? That way we could do C, D, or E without any negatives whatsoever.
DCDH.
We'll give him a boatand coordinates(nevermind he knows where he's going), and that's all.
A small, single-person boat that's suitable for getting to Africa and then sailing along the coastline to get to where he wants to go.
Whole fleet? No, we're sending escorts.
And he can return here if he has any objections to his destination.
EDIT: Actually maybe we should do DG and let Magellan stay here until the Secondborn is done.
Obviously, send one escort and fill that with weapons/radar/tech/whathaveyou. We publicly say we are so eager to win Magellan over that we sent two full cargo ships with him, and then laugh at the rebels when (and if) they attack a fully-armed ship with a small dinghy and a pistol.I'll approve of this.
Obviously, send one escort and fill that with weapons/radar/tech/whathaveyou. We publicly say we are so eager to win Magellan over that we sent two full cargo ships with him, and then laugh at the rebels when (and if) they attack a fully-armed ship with a small dinghy and a pistol.I'll approve of this.
Tropes give them a real good chance but it's the best option anywayObviously, send one escort and fill that with weapons/radar/tech/whathaveyou. We publicly say we are so eager to win Magellan over that we sent two full cargo ships with him, and then laugh at the rebels when (and if) they attack a fully-armed ship with a small dinghy and a pistol.I'll approve of this.
Tropes give them a real good chance but it's the best option anywayObviously, send one escort and fill that with weapons/radar/tech/whathaveyou. We publicly say we are so eager to win Magellan over that we sent two full cargo ships with him, and then laugh at the rebels when (and if) they attack a fully-armed ship with a small dinghy and a pistol.I'll approve of this.
BBut how would we explain our knowing this? (Blue don't you dare try to quickhammer anything.)
BBut how would we explain our knowing this? (Blue don't you dare try to quickhammer anything.)
Wtf bros?
A
bleh, B won
Don't worry, Omada, A and B are currently tied.
Mind you, everyone should say A, because it both gets the Secondborn out of our hair for a nice long while and also doesn't raise any questions as to how the hell we know he's from a different universe, and A is therefore he logically better answer, but hey. *shrug*
B
B.
B
A. :D
A
A
"Because we don't have an Atlantis. Don't worry, this kind of thing happens all the time here."
"Because we don't have an Atlantis. Don't worry, this kind of thing happens all the time here."A friendly reminder that we're at the Southern Hemisphere, and our first contact with the Northern Hemisphere has been Magellan.
Bluff until everyone else is asleep or convinced (or fighting, but surely it won't come to that?): "I'm detecting a temporal anomaly in the generator glob. We need to reroute power through the graviton charge limiter. You have to completely resynchronize the primary and auxiliary autosequencers, or the resulting output decay will cause a catastrophic thoron dump. The nadion thrust assembly is offline. I'm going to reroute power through the deuterium flow regulators. If I reroute power through the hydrogen filament, I should be able to kick-start the delta ray injector. I'm detecting an anomalous power spike in the atmospheric resonance spinner..."A friendly reminder that we're Celling, a military captain, not Erin, the scientist guy.
And this is why it's Bluff, not DiplomacyBluff until everyone else is asleep or convinced (or fighting, but surely it won't come to that?): "I'm detecting a temporal anomaly in the generator glob. We need to reroute power through the graviton charge limiter. You have to completely resynchronize the primary and auxiliary autosequencers, or the resulting output decay will cause a catastrophic thoron dump. The nadion thrust assembly is offline. I'm going to reroute power through the deuterium flow regulators. If I reroute power through the hydrogen filament, I should be able to kick-start the delta ray injector. I'm detecting an anomalous power spike in the atmospheric resonance spinner..."A friendly reminder that we're Celling, a military captain, not Erin, the scientist guy.
Erin got thrown in jail by Padel and quite frankly if we could get him to show up everything would be much easier for us.
It's a bad idea. Remember, the Secondborn already had scrying powers, and is inhabiting the body of and has access to the memories of a powerful oracle who knew us moderately decently. This isn't something Celling could pull off, especially considering there's a decent chance that the other people around him may very well call him out for nonsense.And this is why it's Bluff, not DiplomacyBluff until everyone else is asleep or convinced (or fighting, but surely it won't come to that?): "I'm detecting a temporal anomaly in the generator glob. We need to reroute power through the graviton charge limiter. You have to completely resynchronize the primary and auxiliary autosequencers, or the resulting output decay will cause a catastrophic thoron dump. The nadion thrust assembly is offline. I'm going to reroute power through the deuterium flow regulators. If I reroute power through the hydrogen filament, I should be able to kick-start the delta ray injector. I'm detecting an anomalous power spike in the atmospheric resonance spinner..."A friendly reminder that we're Celling, a military captain, not Erin, the scientist guy.
Erin got thrown in jail by Padel and quite frankly if we could get him to show up everything would be much easier for us.
DYNAMIC ENTRY!GODDAMNT NO, THERE IS NO GOOD WAY TO EXPLAIN B AND IT'LL JUST MAKE HIM SUSPICIOUS!
B please. Let's not make this guy too angry.
Why not? B is 2 ahead and there's no more votes coming in.Blue don't you fucking dare quickhammer.
There's the fact that there is a good chance that multiple people will come to their senses.Why not? B is 2 ahead and there's no more votes coming in.Blue don't you fucking dare quickhammer.
I do not want another fourth-wall-aware villain, espcecially not the Secondborn.
Better begin to make excusesFirst: he'll definitely get pissed if we declare that we have a power he doesn't.
"Some individuals have the ability to see the fabric of reality and it's rules, a power above man and gods, you were copied from another realm of existence, you can try to see our mind, but usually people and entity's that don't manage to get grasp of it by itself tend to suffer and/or be deleted from existance, direct mention to what the fabric of reality is means immediate elimination"
There is no other way to tell this without being extremely borderline about this
(Blue, you can't quickhammer because I just introduced an option C.)
Question, how much of the fourth wall is it forbidden to tell about, are we forbidden to say there is a power beyond that of man and God, or are we forbidden to say we all live in a forum game?We're forbidden from saying the latter, and the Secondborn will want us dead if we say the former.
Question, how much of the fourth wall is it forbidden to tell about, are we forbidden to say there is a power beyond that of man and God, or are we forbidden to say we all live in a forum game?We're forbidden from saying the latter, and the Secondborn will want us dead if we say the former.
A... but Set Bullets to Stun (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SetSwordsToStun), because having Padel so we can show him to the rebels and the Plot is a good idea.+1
Or, alternately, just have the thing be a stun gun. The point is, stun Padel, don't kill.
Maybe pistol whip combined with Tap on the Head (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TapOnTheHead) if neither of the other options is viable.
EDIT: And meanwhile, the Parrot steals the virus.
That only worked because the narrative focused off of him for days.The one containing a bio-weapon? I prefer not
We should just ignore the vial.
I assume you want a tiebreak on murder/notmurder. Obviously I choose murder.Goddamnit Spin no
Goddamnit Spin yesI assume you want a tiebreak on murder/notmurder. Obviously I choose murder.Goddamnit Spin no
The only item in question is whether to spare Padelheb (a ruthless manipulator that has tried to commit genocide with a bioweapon). We have him dead to rights, Glass wants to spare him to show the rebels (plot-armored supposed good guys)."Spare"
Spare: Glass, Omada, Rockeater
Kill: Fallacy, Iridium, Spin
Of course if we capture the main villain he'll shapeshift into a catgirl and escape in the confusion!
If he stays alive, he will escape. This is a world based on tropes. Of course if we capture the main villain he'll shapeshift into a catgirl and escape in the confusion!A. The world only runs on tropes in areas where the rebels know about stuff. If he rebels not only know about him, but know that he's a villain - especially the main villain - then I think that's worth him escaping.
I mean, I haven't been following this and have no idea what's going on, but a vote for catgirls is a vote forOf course if we capture the main villain he'll shapeshift into a catgirl and escape in the confusion!
Thank you for that excellent idea that totally will not be used now as a direct result of your actions!
Note: If you knock him out, you will have to roll. If you fail, he smashes the vial
The thing is, though, that the Protinam - who specifically found no way to stop the plague if it got out - said that Erin could potentially fix the plague.
Blue, we discussed over Discord Padel's infect-and-cure plot. I'm not sure how to post screenshots here in the thread, but I can definitely bring them up in the Discord!
EDIT: Pics are in Discord! I repeat, pics are in Discord!
We can always explode the entire continent of antartica if the vial breaks, so the virus will infect no one EVIL LAUGHTERBad Omada *squirt gun*
"No, the wormhole is a secret, must remain a secret"What Padel was doing with the wormhole, or the wormhole itself? The wormhole's existence is public knowledge.
Wormhole was public knowledge, or fairly public knowledge. Public enough for the old man rebel to see it as the symbol of Antarctican imperialism. Public enough, in fact, that there was no point to labeling it something different on a facility map."No, the wormhole is a secret, must remain a secret"What Padel was doing with the wormhole, or the wormhole itself? The wormhole's existence is public knowledge.
"Erin, in case you forgot, there's an entire force of reality that's out for your head. One that could be redirected onto Padel should he be kept alive.
You're supposed to be able to think about things like this, mate."
You really think the plot is going to designate Padelheb as the main villain? Especially when he’s already been defeated? And letting him escape would be too disastrous. Even from a jail cell, I have no doubt he could bring the Republic to its knees. He simply can’t be left to talk his way out of whatever punishment we give him.
A, but also state that she was forced to do so by Padel. State he was willing to imprison, and imply potentially execute, all of the Republic's top scientists until he found one that would do as he wanted.
Makes sense.A, but also state that she was forced to do so by Padel. State he was willing to imprison, and imply potentially execute, all of the Republic's top scientists until he found one that would do as he wanted.
+1 but try to make sure Mira knows this so we don't have to deal with the Prisoner's Dilemma.
Big part of this is that you are in the Prisoner's Dilemma, because you're being dragged off to jail to be questioned separately.Well there's no need for that when we can tell them here and now.
Big part of this is that you are in the Prisoner's Dilemma, because you're being dragged off to jail to be questioned separately.Well there's no need for that when we can tell them here and now.
Why don't we have a recognition symbol for exactly this purpose?
the place of the wormhole don't have cameras or something to record voice?I mean, that the best option
we can go B and say that padel said that he forced scientists to make it because until now the republic was in his hands
No, say "Padel forced her to make a genocidal virus and was going to send it through the wormhole," right now.Big part of this is that you are in the Prisoner's Dilemma, because you're being dragged off to jail to be questioned separately.Well there's no need for that when we can tell them here and now.
Just shout "If anyone asks, you were forced to do it," right now?
Does that sound like the best idea?
No, say "Padel forced her to make a genocidal virus and was going to send it through the wormhole," right now.Big part of this is that you are in the Prisoner's Dilemma, because you're being dragged off to jail to be questioned separately.Well there's no need for that when we can tell them here and now.
Just shout "If anyone asks, you were forced to do it," right now?
Does that sound like the best idea?
No, say "Padel forced her to make a genocidal virus and was going to send it through the wormhole," right now.Big part of this is that you are in the Prisoner's Dilemma, because you're being dragged off to jail to be questioned separately.Well there's no need for that when we can tell them here and now.
Just shout "If anyone asks, you were forced to do it," right now?
Does that sound like the best idea?
A, but also state that she was forced to do so by Padel. State he was willing to imprison, and imply potentially execute, all of the Republic's top scientists until he found one that would do as he wanted.+1
"I don't know,” David admits. “I just know where you can begin your search. Go to the piers. Once you get there, don’t trust the bees and the king. Your friend has a yellow hand."
Bees - Goonswarm
King - Mittani, the swarm's "ruler"
Your friend has a yellow hand - yellow is gold, the friend is the pyrokineticist. It means she's desirable, specifically to the Goons
By the way take a look at this (http://www.scp-wiki.net/i-h-p-proposal)
You asked me to tiebreak, but I'm in the tie. So, I tiebreak in favour of B!
Prisoner's dilemma, prisoner's schmilemma. +1No, say "Padel forced her to make a genocidal virus and was going to send it through the wormhole," right now.Big part of this is that you are in the Prisoner's Dilemma, because you're being dragged off to jail to be questioned separately.Well there's no need for that when we can tell them here and now.
Just shout "If anyone asks, you were forced to do it," right now?
Does that sound like the best idea?
C (with A as a secondary if this doesn't gain enough traction): We reveal the parts that incriminate Padel and prove he needed to die (such as his planned genocide of the South Americans [potentially planned to later extend to other groups] and attempts to make the military loyal solely to him), while leaving out the things that could cause mass panic (bioweapon, wormhole abuse potentially resulting in world sterilization, and other things of that magnitude).+1 to C.
Gm, stupid "minigame" for you, plz throw a coinMate, it's currently 3C 2B 1A. Just vote C and make it more decisive.
if it lands heads logic will prevail and I will vote C making it a draw
if it lands tails i will risk luck and vote B
Gm, stupid "minigame" for you, plz throw a coin
if it lands heads logic will prevail and I will vote C making it a draw
if it lands tails i will risk luck and vote B
EDIT2: Only tangentially related, but we don't have pigs. Or dogs, technically. We have alpacas, llamas, some Antarctica-adapted tame lions, and other such things from South America, the more southern parts of Africa, Antarctica, and maybe some things from Australia (though we've probably done more to try to make sure the things there don't spread).
This is based on Discord discussion.
...no, I think we determined that they could 100% be tamed lions and it would not only still make sense, it would make more sense in the context of the game than having canine dogs.
EDIT2: Only tangentially related, but we don't have pigs. Or dogs, technically. We have alpacas, llamas, some Antarctica-adapted tame lions, and other such things from South America, the more southern parts of Africa, Antarctica, and maybe some things from Australia (though we've probably done more to try to make sure the things there don't spread).
This is based on Discord discussion.
Just going to note that our wolves and dogs derive from gray wolves, Canis lupus. I know that's a North Hemisphere species.
Don't question it.
EDIT: Or maybe they're maned wolves. I'll have to think about that
Guys, if we send them the data, you know they'll cherry-pick pieces out of it to claim we're abusing the dogs.
...ah, then nevermind.Guys, if we send them the data, you know they'll cherry-pick pieces out of it to claim we're abusing the dogs.
The "data" is just the formulas and procedures to do an uplift. Make of that what you will.
they're even dumber than I thought.
Anything but with E, maybe F2: state that it's better for then to create meat lab first as glass suggested, Give security that the government might help them in the process and the propaganda for people to change their font of meat, and THEN we will start mass uplifiting our nation to a age of fantasyI'm good with this.
(both of the situations might make good spectacles for the government and our sector, maybe it will increase our power, remembering that we only have direct control over the argentinian military and the tech sector, although we have influence)
"Dynamic entry!"
"... just... got... here... in time..."
Breathes. Deeply. "I thought I heard someone discussing about uplifting animals on a larger scale."
"Doctor Fallas d' Florist, at your service.
I'm the head of uplifting and splicing research here.
I would love to coordinate with and supervise you to make this dream into a reality, as much as possible."
"Perfectly reasonable" my ass. You ran into a meeting without prompting - or even any in-universe reason to know what was being discussed
I vote with Glass.
F2 then, I actually did read through some of the above posts to get an idea of what was going on.I vote with Glass.
Yeah, because I'm totally (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SarcasmMode) going to allow you to just pop in on your brother's request and cast a vote without even pretending to read the options. At least use the actual letter!
F2 then, I actually did read through some of the above posts to get an idea of what was going on.I vote with Glass.
Yeah, because I'm totally (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SarcasmMode) going to allow you to just pop in on your brother's request and cast a vote without even pretending to read the options. At least use the actual letter!
Blue, you know what he's talking about. Especially when you look at the top post in the quote micro-pyramid.F2 then, I actually did read through some of the above posts to get an idea of what was going on.I vote with Glass.
Yeah, because I'm totally (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SarcasmMode) going to allow you to just pop in on your brother's request and cast a vote without even pretending to read the options. At least use the actual letter!
Fallacy's F2 or Glass/Omada's F2?
Let's hope that procastination dont become a character as a weird troll by the GMBut if it does, you should call them NaN
Let's hope that procastination dont become a character as a weird troll by the GM
Don't.Let's hope that procastination dont become a character as a weird troll by the GM
Hey that gives me an idea.
Blue, you know what he's talking about. Especially when you look at the top post in the quote micro-pyramid.F2 then, I actually did read through some of the above posts to get an idea of what was going on.I vote with Glass.
Yeah, because I'm totally (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SarcasmMode) going to allow you to just pop in on your brother's request and cast a vote without even pretending to read the options. At least use the actual letter!
Fallacy's F2 or Glass/Omada's F2?
F: Make no mention of our knowledge of the Key, but just say "Why are you asking?".I'm ok with this.
I do want to talk to them, so I'm fine with thisF: Make no mention of our knowledge of the Key, but just say "Why are you asking?".I'm ok with this.
Ok, now we do the other part of how I'd responded.+1
That is, "Their leader tried to wipe my mind with it. It got shattered in the process of stopping him.
And if you're thinking I'm just trying to keep it secret, I called in a missile strike on myself because I thought it would help the situation. Wouldn't I have used the thing by now if we had it?"
"The only way I can release them is if you all swear off this rebellion nonsense. Listen, it's not like I don't know that the Republic is flawed, but do you people even know what you're going to do if you manage to overthrow it? Do you have any idea about how to run a country? And all of that is disregarding the fact that your current plans are going to get thousands of innocent people killed, and will likely result in there being nothing left to rule."+1
"The only way I can release them is if you all swear off this rebellion nonsense. Listen, it's not like I don't know that the Republic is flawed, but do you people even know what you're going to do if you manage to overthrow it? Do you have any idea about how to run a country? And all of that is disregarding the fact that your current plans are going to get thousands of innocent people killed, and will likely result in there being nothing left to rule."
+1"The only way I can release them is if you all swear off this rebellion nonsense. Listen, it's not like I don't know that the Republic is flawed, but do you people even know what you're going to do if you manage to overthrow it? Do you have any idea about how to run a country? And all of that is disregarding the fact that your current plans are going to get thousands of innocent people killed, and will likely result in there being nothing left to rule."+1
+1"The only way I can release them is if you all swear off this rebellion nonsense. Listen, it's not like I don't know that the Republic is flawed, but do you people even know what you're going to do if you manage to overthrow it? Do you have any idea about how to run a country? And all of that is disregarding the fact that your current plans are going to get thousands of innocent people killed, and will likely result in there being nothing left to rule."+1
+1+1"The only way I can release them is if you all swear off this rebellion nonsense. Listen, it's not like I don't know that the Republic is flawed, but do you people even know what you're going to do if you manage to overthrow it? Do you have any idea about how to run a country? And all of that is disregarding the fact that your current plans are going to get thousands of innocent people killed, and will likely result in there being nothing left to rule."+1
Damn you all.
+1"The only way I can release them is if you all swear off this rebellion nonsense. Listen, it's not like I don't know that the Republic is flawed, but do you people even know what you're going to do if you manage to overthrow it? Do you have any idea about how to run a country? And all of that is disregarding the fact that your current plans are going to get thousands of innocent people killed, and will likely result in there being nothing left to rule."+1
Fuck all that. Call back.
Fuck all that. Call back.+1
Scratch the callback, Go to the meeting, by ourselves. Bring the key fragments. "I can't get you your friends on this short notice. But I can give you some really important information. Game-changing information." And then break the fourth wall to them.+1
Let's break this game. +1Scratch the callback, Go to the meeting, by ourselves. Bring the key fragments. "I can't get you your friends on this short notice. But I can give you some really important information. Game-changing information." And then break the fourth wall to them.+1
+1 Victory through being superior at screwing over the GM than the GM is at screwing over us.Let's break this game. +1Scratch the callback, Go to the meeting, by ourselves. Bring the key fragments. "I can't get you your friends on this short notice. But I can give you some really important information. Game-changing information." And then break the fourth wall to them.+1
"The only way I can release them is if you all swear off this rebellion nonsense. Listen, it's not like I don't know that the Republic is flawed, but do you people even know what you're going to do if you manage to overthrow it? Do you have any idea about how to run a country? And all of that is disregarding the fact that your current plans are going to get thousands of innocent people killed, and will likely result in there being nothing left to rule."
ERIN QUILL: And why are we focusing on me instead of Celling telling the plot?
NEST: I'm sorry, what?
ERIN QUILL: And why are we focusing on me instead of Celling telling the plot?Blue you are not allowed to make a fourth wall break even if it's not canon.
NEST: I'm sorry, what?
The radio crackled about the news as he hears the Cherub project, which was his suggestion. Quill put it into action, seeing how as to save face with the people. He was to blame. He knew the Republic was flawed. Hell Erin was flawless but T Levinevrefused to leave the country, and wouldvtake the blame. For it was his idea, also he rather help the country than let it condem itself, the leadership needs to save face. Especially in the time of these god damned plot device rebels.+1
He made the call.
Within five minutes got picked up.
Another thirty went. The radio and other media went into arms.
“ T Levine, respected doctor and scientist in engineering a biology. As confessed to the Cherubs?!”
He made a statement, he appears dirty due to self exile and wild Einstein hair.
“ I wanted to originally make a program to make the criminally insane and anoral into loyal, fighting machines. But the young having better growth and coping would seem like better candidates for such a thing. Oh it was wrong. But I felt it should have been done. I never went to full production of a convict Corp. and if your to hate someone. Hate me, and the damned rebels who murder innocent people day in and day out.”
Afterwards was escorted away, his fate now in hands of another. Which was always the case.
Edit: Hell if this gets pushed could be a regular to hop back in unless T Levine gets straight up murdered.
In case curious. Voting E. Just blame me, not the other one.
I mean there's not much to do here other than give a +1. Thanks for this, TL.The radio crackled about the news as he hears the Cherub project, which was his suggestion. Quill put it into action, seeing how as to save face with the people. He was to blame. He knew the Republic was flawed. Hell Erin was flawless but T Levinevrefused to leave the country, and wouldvtake the blame. For it was his idea, also he rather help the country than let it condem itself, the leadership needs to save face. Especially in the time of these god damned plot device rebels.+1
He made the call.
Within five minutes got picked up.
Another thirty went. The radio and other media went into arms.
“ T Levine, respected doctor and scientist in engineering a biology. As confessed to the Cherubs?!”
He made a statement, he appears dirty due to self exile and wild Einstein hair.
“ I wanted to originally make a program to make the criminally insane and anoral into loyal, fighting machines. But the young having better growth and coping would seem like better candidates for such a thing. Oh it was wrong. But I felt it should have been done. I never went to full production of a convict Corp. and if your to hate someone. Hate me, and the damned rebels who murder innocent people day in and day out.”
Afterwards was escorted away, his fate now in hands of another. Which was always the case.
Edit: Hell if this gets pushed could be a regular to hop back in unless T Levine gets straight up murdered.
In case curious. Voting E. Just blame me, not the other one.
"I can't tell you, because it would ruin the plan, but trust me on this. I'm going to turn them to our side." (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UnspokenPlanGuarantee)
*sigh*+1
"Fansworth. Look at me.
I think we can both agree that the Republic isn't perfect. But I do know that it's the best country anyone in the world is going to be getting. The problem with the rebels is that they don't understand where to stop in striving for improvement. I'm going to show them where along the line they screwed up - which, for the record, is as soon as they got it in their heads to make this a 'rebellion' instead of just trying to make changes in a legal manner - and bring them back to the right path. They're not bad kids, just misguided. Extremely misguided...
Listen. Feel free to follow me. Even bring a couple troops with you. But stay out of sight of the meeting place. They'll be more receptive to reason if it at least looks like I'm there alone."
+1.*sigh*+1
"Fansworth. Look at me.
I think we can both agree that the Republic isn't perfect. But I do know that it's the best country anyone in the world is going to be getting. The problem with the rebels is that they don't understand where to stop in striving for improvement. I'm going to show them where along the line they screwed up - which, for the record, is as soon as they got it in their heads to make this a 'rebellion' instead of just trying to make changes in a legal manner - and bring them back to the right path. They're not bad kids, just misguided. Extremely misguided...
Listen. Feel free to follow me. Even bring a couple troops with you. But stay out of sight of the meeting place. They'll be more receptive to reason if it at least looks like I'm there alone."
+1+1.*sigh*+1
"Fansworth. Look at me.
I think we can both agree that the Republic isn't perfect. But I do know that it's the best country anyone in the world is going to be getting. The problem with the rebels is that they don't understand where to stop in striving for improvement. I'm going to show them where along the line they screwed up - which, for the record, is as soon as they got it in their heads to make this a 'rebellion' instead of just trying to make changes in a legal manner - and bring them back to the right path. They're not bad kids, just misguided. Extremely misguided...
Listen. Feel free to follow me. Even bring a couple troops with you. But stay out of sight of the meeting place. They'll be more receptive to reason if it at least looks like I'm there alone."
"Seriously. Stay out of sight. Period."
*sigh*
"Fansworth. Look at me.
I think we can both agree that the Republic isn't perfect. But I do know that it's the best country anyone in the world is going to be getting. The problem with the rebels is that they don't understand where to stop in striving for improvement. I'm going to show them where along the line they screwed up - which, for the record, is as soon as they got it in their heads to make this a 'rebellion' instead of just trying to make changes in a legal manner - and bring them back to the right path. They're not bad kids, just misguided. Extremely misguided...
Listen. Feel free to follow me. Even bring a couple troops with you. But stay out of sight of the meeting place. They'll be more receptive to reason if it at least looks like I'm there alone."
"...ok, so it's not exactly reason.
Quill's been teaching me some mind tricks. I just need to get them to listen long enough for them to work."
Now would be a good time to realize that one of the very next things Erin would do with his time is to check in on the rebel situation, and that this is a good time where he would call in.
Given that Erin has been able to contact Celling while the latter was in the middle of the ocean, before they started working closely together, I would think Erin has the ability to contact them right now.Now would be a good time to realize that one of the very next things Erin would do with his time is to check in on the rebel situation, and that this is a good time where he would call in.
That would require me to figure out the timeline of the last few real world months of this game, and for you to have transoceanic telephone lines, neither of which is happening.
Given that Erin has been able to contact Celling while the latter was in the middle of the ocean, before they started working closely together, I would think Erin has the ability to contact them right now.Now would be a good time to realize that one of the very next things Erin would do with his time is to check in on the rebel situation, and that this is a good time where he would call in.
That would require me to figure out the timeline of the last few real world months of this game, and for you to have transoceanic telephone lines, neither of which is happening.
Also, you said the last thing was a flash-sideways.
We got super tech that allows to make wormholes. And we got a literal God as a enemy. That is not really as far of a step to say I rigged up a plane with many other things considering I made master chief, on child size.
Given he “died” and resurrected himself. With super powers and no longer with his home land, I would think in the moments he was dead, felt a alien presence in his psyche and given how out side forces and plot devices keep making trouble.
He is definitively a believer of some outside force and is now just going along with the motions, going for Dark Messiah Given death and rebirth, plots to make a new super nation (salvation)
But, given his bitter views, is not the nicest of guys now.
C, exiled to the deserts of North America.+1
+1C, exiled to the deserts of North America.+1
+1+1C, exiled to the deserts of North America.+1
+E: "We'll let you have your pick of our prisons with regards to who we're sending with you. A second chance is something that a lot of people might go for. Just make sure that the rebellion doesn't subvert anyone."
C: and give him later some operatives so we can explore the region and it's inhabitants, let's colonize america+1
"As I was going to tell you in the call, he's being held in Antarctica, as are the rest of the people you had been working with. I understand that you want to see them, but even if I thought I could safely bring them, there's no way I could get them here within a reasonable amount of time.+1
That said. I have some information for you that would completely change the game..." And then, as I suggested earlier, break the fourth wall to them.
"As I was going to tell you in the call, he's being held in Antarctica, as are the rest of the people you had been working with. I understand that you want to see them, but even if I thought I could safely bring them, there's no way I could get them here within a reasonable amount of time.
That said. I have some information for you that would completely change the game..." And then, as I suggested earlier, break the fourth wall to them.
Meanwhile+1
North America, part of the “new world.” Disgraced Titus Levine is now in the desert, with hand full of operatives. As he goes through his inventions and drinks something, turns younger and stronger and anime black hair as he spoke.
“ Must day, different from home. I will rule this land, for the home land.” As they then set up lab in a cave and collect animals, as he had one collection already.
Meanwhile
North America, part of the “new world.” Disgraced Titus Levine is now in the desert, with hand full of operatives. As he goes through his inventions and drinks something, turns younger and stronger and anime black hair as he spoke.
“ Must say , different from home. I will rule this land, for the home land.” As they then set up lab in a cave and collect animals, as he had one collection already.
[Note: this is spoken as quickly as can be done without losing clarity.] "I don't have much time, so I'll make this quick: reality as you know it does not exist. We're living in a construct, a vessel for a narrative. We're being used as tools to tell a story, to play around with. Erin and I have been fighting against it, against the Plot, ever since we became aware of it - you can only fight it if you become aware of it. And it knows this, and it actively works to stop the spread of knowledge - I told you I don't have much time, that's why. Any minute, there'll be a meteor strike right on me, or I'll have a heart attack, or some similarly-contrived event will happen to kill me. When that happens, Erin is your best chance. Find him and tell him what you know; he can help." [I don't expect to live this long, so if we do, give us a second part to continue with so that our last moments aren't just awkward scilence.]+1
If at any point we have been fatally wounded but remain able to speak in some capacity, say "This world is an illusion, exiles."
If there's not enough left of us to be able to do so, have the phrase just happen, echoing in the air like it was said by a ghost. Because that can happen in stories when people who need to get in their last words are too dead to give them.
"I don't have much time, so I'll make this quick: reality as you know it does not exist. We're living in a construct, a vessel for a narrative. We're being used as tools to tell a story, to play around with.
Basta! Kilojoule Proton, Bay Watcher of dubious merit, chooses to rebel against the Plot by going on strike! Time to flash awayways!
Choose a faction:
Republic (+1 to Science! rolls)
Rebel (+1 to Political rolls)
Empire (-1 to Existence rolls)
Plot (-1 to all rolls, +1 to strike hours per roll)
Rolls:
Standard: 2d6, keep 1
Dramatic: 1d6
You are all in the same prison cell.
Basta! Kilojoule Proton, Bay Watcher of dubious merit, chooses to rebel against the Plot by going on strike! Time to flash awayways!1. I'm confused.
Choose a faction:
Republic (+1 to Science! rolls)
Rebel (+1 to Political rolls)
Empire (-1 to Existence rolls)
Plot (-1 to all rolls, +1 to strike hours per roll)
Rolls:
Standard: 2d6, keep 1
Dramatic: 1d6
You are all in the same prison cell.
Basta! Kilojoule Proton, Bay Watcher of dubious merit, chooses to rebel against the Plot by going on strike! Time to flash awayways!1. I'm confused.
Choose a faction:
Republic (+1 to Science! rolls)
Rebel (+1 to Political rolls)
Empire (-1 to Existence rolls)
Plot (-1 to all rolls, +1 to strike hours per roll)
Rolls:
Standard: 2d6, keep 1
Dramatic: 1d6
You are all in the same prison cell.
2. Separate: I found this (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tRbdwAHgRKlWYeLPG8EDPTsV0XICCHZCHuUXEGOF4Gc/mobilebasic) in Blue's post. It's supposed to be transparent between the first two "For The Glory"s.
It's not, but it's supposed to be.
Two dolls, one with an axe slung over its back, stand by a tall pillar of some sort. The unarmed doll cuts a yawning tear into the very fabric of reality, and a locomotive-faced warrior barges in. Gouts of steam erupt from the warrior's face as it greets the doll in a distorted, sing-song voice: "Helloooooooo M--"
Back to SPAMOVERLORD:
A
My suggestion for the game proper: Walk out and go discuss this with Fansworth.
"That unfortunately did not go as planned. That said, it does open up at least one possibility. How much of what I said did you hear, Fansworth?" [I will continue this based on how much he did.]
+1Back to SPAMOVERLORD:
AMy suggestion for the game proper: Walk out and go discuss this with Fansworth.
"That unfortunately did not go as planned. That said, it does open up at least one possibility. How much of what I said did you hear, Fansworth?" [I will continue this based on how much he did.]
The rebels have you at gunpoint. Can I have a +1 on just taking both of these at once?
+1+1Back to SPAMOVERLORD:
AMy suggestion for the game proper: Walk out and go discuss this with Fansworth.
"That unfortunately did not go as planned. That said, it does open up at least one possibility. How much of what I said did you hear, Fansworth?" [I will continue this based on how much he did.]
The rebels have you at gunpoint. Can I have a +1 on just taking both of these at once?
It's not clear because Glass edited the post, but the leading option now is give the rebels the shards of the Key of Taloc and call Fansworth to tell him about the Fourth Wall. Can I get yes or no votes on this?+1
KJP, you already voted.+1
This is your third time voting on this one thing, in fact.
KJP, you already voted.
This is your third time voting on this one thing, in fact.
I vote in favor of a tie for the present---AKA I'm voting with Glass. I'm still catching up, blue.
SLOW YOUR CRAZED, PLOT-DRIVEN, PLAYER-HATING, PARTICULARLY UNPLEASANT, PROBABLY NECROMANTIC HORSES, OK?
Besides, I've reached page 94. Not too many left, really.
About four hours for a full(ish) read, skipping a page or two here and there but getting all the plot points.+1
EDIT:
So, how about we point out to Anna that the Secondborn is out there, and if she has the intact Key she is a prime target, along with the kid and anyone in the general vicinity. The Secondborn has already shown that collateral damage is meaningless to him, after all.
+1About four hours for a full(ish) read, skipping a page or two here and there but getting all the plot points.+1
EDIT:
So, how about we point out to Anna that the Secondborn is out there, and if she has the intact Key she is a prime target, along with the kid and anyone in the general vicinity. The Secondborn has already shown that collateral damage is meaningless to him, after all.
About four hours for a full(ish) read, skipping a page or two here and there but getting all the plot points.+1
EDIT:
So, how about we point out to Anna that the Secondborn is out there, and if she has the intact Key she is a prime target, along with the kid and anyone in the general vicinity. The Secondborn has already shown that collateral damage is meaningless to him, after all.
EDIT2: Since people took this as an actual action.
"Look, the Key is a psychic device in nature, yes? You ought to remember that we happen to have a dangerous lunatic running around with a love for control and a thing about world domination. If I was to give you this key, the kid here would be next on the Secondborn's list. The list of people who he's running around destroying utterly. I don't know if you've heard, but he razed the temple of the Protinam to the ground. Killed them all, burned it, and stole a large artifact, in less time than it took us to send a team to help them. Do you understand the stakes? One...thing, destroyed an entire group of people with mind powers, burned their sanctuary, and stole their stuff, before a group of mortals could even reach the site."
+1.About four hours for a full(ish) read, skipping a page or two here and there but getting all the plot points.+1
EDIT:
So, how about we point out to Anna that the Secondborn is out there, and if she has the intact Key she is a prime target, along with the kid and anyone in the general vicinity. The Secondborn has already shown that collateral damage is meaningless to him, after all.
EDIT2: Since people took this as an actual action.
"Look, the Key is a psychic device in nature, yes? You ought to remember that we happen to have a dangerous lunatic running around with a love for control and a thing about world domination. If I was to give you this key, the kid here would be next on the Secondborn's list. The list of people who he's running around destroying utterly. I don't know if you've heard, but he razed the temple of the Protinam to the ground. Killed them all, burned it, and stole a large artifact, in less time than it took us to send a team to help them. Do you understand the stakes? One...thing, destroyed an entire group of people with mind powers, burned their sanctuary, and stole their stuff, before a group of mortals could even reach the site."
"Look, the Key is a psychic device in nature, yes? You ought to remember that we happen to have a dangerous lunatic running around with a love for control and a thing about world domination. If I was to give you this key, the kid here would be next on the Secondborn's list. The list of people who he's running around destroying utterly. I don't know if you've heard, but he razed the temple of the Protinam to the ground. Killed them all, burned it, and stole a large artifact, in less time than it took us to send a team to help them. Do you understand the stakes? One...thing, destroyed an entire group of people with mind powers, burned their sanctuary, and stole their stuff, before a group of mortals could even reach the site."
He can see the future. He stole an artifact from the Protinam that allows him to search the future from any point. I don't believe you know how the Protinam's abilities work. They can see branches in the future based on decisions and choices. It's possible the Secondborn has not yet mastered the ability. Perhaps more likely is that he has not yet thought to consider the right choices, that he has not yet seen the futures in which Jacob might confront him with the Key. When he does, he will desire this weapon, or its destruction. It is how his mind works: to strengthen and defend Atlantis is his calling. If he cannot possess it, he will destroy it.+1
More importantly, I will not allow you to hand a weapon to a child and assume that they will be able to master it fast enough to bring down the Secondborn.
I have an option for you, though. Come with us. We will not remake the Key, not here...but it is possible we will do so later. I believe you know Erin Quill? The Protinam, we learned, cannot search the future around him. There are too many possibilities appearing and dissolving rapidly for them to make any sense of. We will go there...and then we will see what can be done about this. I will commit to nothing now, because the less we decide on the harder it will be for the Secondborn to track us down. I think you can agree that, for now at the least, we need to work together. A living Secondborn is a far worse threat to the entire world than the Republic ever could be.
He can see the future. He stole an artifact from the Protinam that allows him to search the future from any point. I don't believe you know how the Protinam's abilities work. They can see branches in the future based on decisions and choices. It's possible the Secondborn has not yet mastered the ability. Perhaps more likely is that he has not yet thought to consider the right choices, that he has not yet seen the futures in which Jacob might confront him with the Key. When he does, he will desire this weapon, or its destruction. It is how his mind works: to strengthen and defend Atlantis is his calling. If he cannot possess it, he will destroy it.
More importantly, I will not allow you to hand a weapon to a child and assume that they will be able to master it fast enough to bring down the Secondborn.
I have an option for you, though. Come with us. We will not remake the Key, not here...but it is possible we will do so later. I believe you know Erin Quill? The Protinam, we learned, cannot search the future around him. There are too many possibilities appearing and dissolving rapidly for them to make any sense of. We will go there...and then we will see what can be done about this. I will commit to nothing now, because the less we decide on the harder it will be for the Secondborn to track us down. I think you can agree that, for now at the least, we need to work together. A living Secondborn is a far worse threat to the entire world than the Republic ever could be.
FIRST SUGGESTION: Run. We almost certainly can't win this fight, at least not without Celling dying and possibly Fansworth also. Remember, the Plot *presently* probably doesn't consider us to be Heroes quite yet, so our plot armor is either nonexistent or not strong enough to defeat the Secondborn. The Heroes, or at least some of them, should survive because of the laws of narrative, then they'll come back even stronger later, etc. etc. and win against the Secondborn. Eventually. Probably after he starts taking things over, again etc. etc. There is still the chance that we'll be caught, and since I'm preparing for a running-away-in-half-a-dozen-different-vehicles plot we might lose several people, though likely only mooks, again due to the law of narrative.+1. He is not already here
"Looks like your choice happens now. Personally, I think it's time to run. How fast can you reassemble the Key, and can you do it while running for the nearest means of going faster than our legs can carry us away from certain doom?"
[back in radio:] "Fansworth, call in the plan to HQ, warn them to arm themselves and recall patrols, we're turtling up, and then leg it. Get the men out of here and secure transport ASAP. As many different options as we can get ahold of in the next five minutes. You are to exfiltrate immediately, on the first transport option, and report to Quill ASAP. The rest of your men will collect us on the second and third options and keep moving. All of us need to take different routes to return to base.
Start running.
+1FIRST SUGGESTION: Run. We almost certainly can't win this fight, at least not without Celling dying and possibly Fansworth also. Remember, the Plot *presently* probably doesn't consider us to be Heroes quite yet, so our plot armor is either nonexistent or not strong enough to defeat the Secondborn. The Heroes, or at least some of them, should survive because of the laws of narrative, then they'll come back even stronger later, etc. etc. and win against the Secondborn. Eventually. Probably after he starts taking things over, again etc. etc. There is still the chance that we'll be caught, and since I'm preparing for a running-away-in-half-a-dozen-different-vehicles plot we might lose several people, though likely only mooks, again due to the law of narrative.+1. He is not already here
"Looks like your choice happens now. Personally, I think it's time to run. How fast can you reassemble the Key, and can you do it while running for the nearest means of going faster than our legs can carry us away from certain doom?"
[back in radio:] "Fansworth, call in the plan to HQ, warn them to arm themselves and recall patrols, we're turtling up, and then leg it. Get the men out of here and secure transport ASAP. As many different options as we can get ahold of in the next five minutes. You are to exfiltrate immediately, on the first transport option, and report to Quill ASAP. The rest of your men will collect us on the second and third options and keep moving. All of us need to take different routes to return to base.
Start running.
FIRST SUGGESTION: Run. We almost certainly can't win this fight, at least not without Celling dying and possibly Fansworth also. Remember, the Plot *presently* probably doesn't consider us to be Heroes quite yet, so our plot armor is either nonexistent or not strong enough to defeat the Secondborn. The Heroes, or at least some of them, should survive because of the laws of narrative, then they'll come back even stronger later, etc. etc. and win against the Secondborn. Eventually. Probably after he starts taking things over, again etc. etc. There is still the chance that we'll be caught, and since I'm preparing for a running-away-in-half-a-dozen-different-vehicles plot we might lose several people, though likely only mooks, again due to the law of narrative.
"Looks like your choice happens now. Personally, I think it's time to run. How fast can you reassemble the Key, and can you do it while running for the nearest means of going faster than our legs can carry us away from certain doom?"
[back in radio:] "Fansworth, call in the plan to HQ, warn them to arm themselves and recall patrols, we're turtling up, and then leg it. Get the men out of here and secure transport ASAP. As many different options as we can get ahold of in the next five minutes. You are to exfiltrate immediately, on the first transport option, and report to Quill ASAP. The rest of your men will collect us on the second and third options and keep moving. All of us need to take different routes to return to base.
Start running.
I'm thinking C. We have a +2 to scientific.
I'm thinking C. We have a +2 to scientific.+1
Is your role just to +1 whatever Glass says.
-1I'm thinking C. We have a +2 to scientific.+1
Let's do B, blame Padelheb and Tyrant's character for the creation and usage to absorb the political fallout, then point out the fact that one is dead and the other is exiled as a way to show that we're improving the government. To the public, I mean. We'll speak more directly to DeMarco after we hear her reaction.+1
She is, after all, in the midst of some form of military or government building and has the potential to be charged with treason. Her reaction cannot and will not harm us if we choose not to let it.
Let's do B, blame Padelheb and Tyrant's character for the creation and usage to absorb the political fallout, then point out the fact that one is dead and the other is exiled as a way to show that we're improving the government. To the public, I mean. We'll speak more directly to DeMarco after we hear her reaction.+1
She is, after all, in the midst of some form of military or government building and has the potential to be charged with treason. Her reaction cannot and will not harm us if we choose not to let it.
Didn't read the last two pages, I am going to do this.. tomorrow with luck? but as a side plan to think aboutOh yeah, we have OotS access. :D
call secondborn to order of stick world, he will be ONE GOD among others gods and god slaying heros.
Let's do B, blame Padelheb and Tyrant's character for the creation and usage to absorb the political fallout, then point out the fact that one is dead and the other is exiled as a way to show that we're improving the government. To the public, I mean. We'll speak more directly to DeMarco after we hear her reaction.
She is, after all, in the midst of some form of military or government building and has the potential to be charged with treason. Her reaction cannot and will not harm us if we choose not to let it.
Yes, but I don't think it's technically happened yet at the time of the current event.Let's do B, blame Padelheb and Tyrant's character for the creation and usage to absorb the political fallout, then point out the fact that one is dead and the other is exiled as a way to show that we're improving the government. To the public, I mean. We'll speak more directly to DeMarco after we hear her reaction.
She is, after all, in the midst of some form of military or government building and has the potential to be charged with treason. Her reaction cannot and will not harm us if we choose not to let it.
I already made self in character and did the whole blame me thing.
Yes, but I don't think it's technically happened yet at the time of the current event.Let's do B, blame Padelheb and Tyrant's character for the creation and usage to absorb the political fallout, then point out the fact that one is dead and the other is exiled as a way to show that we're improving the government. To the public, I mean. We'll speak more directly to DeMarco after we hear her reaction.
She is, after all, in the midst of some form of military or government building and has the potential to be charged with treason. Her reaction cannot and will not harm us if we choose not to let it.
I already made self in character and did the whole blame me thing.
C. I attended jail, does not mean I got to stay. And besides who else will see Tommy? Quill has his hands full.
Do you not see? The rebels cause trouble and will always do so. Forcthat is their role. It matters not our actions, to them they are the protagonists in some shitty action hero novella and plot device after plot device allowing them to commit crimes against us. Whoever this author is, I would strangle him myself and write up a peaceful, loving world where no mind control or death was needed. Suck on that you holy rollers. Now the guy who I am Channeling, I sense a nigh unending flame of fury and a deep sadness.”
C3. Duty calls, Someone has to make sure the newly formed Cherub works out. Might as well be “daddy.”
C3. Duty calls, Someone has to make sure the newly formed Cherub works out. Might as well be “daddy.”+1
C2+1, with the additional stipulation that he can't pick from any high-value convicts (i.e., the rebels we have captured, not that they're going to remain captives for long if the plan goes, well, according to plan)
C3. Duty calls, Someone has to make sure the newly formed Cherub works out. Might as well be “daddy.”Dear love of all that is still holy in this wretched world, NO. That is stacking political consequences on top of political consequences and also defies the rules of your original deal---the Cherub is not a convict. Also important to note is that doing so is going to result in Ensign Demarco becoming very, very, very angry. And then she will go and make many, many, many other people very, very, very angry. In short, trying to take a Cherub with you is going to be a terrible plan.
Who is this even directed to?Do you not see? The rebels cause trouble and will always do so. Forcthat is their role. It matters not our actions, to them they are the protagonists in some shitty action hero novella and plot device after plot device allowing them to commit crimes against us. Whoever this author is, I would strangle him myself and write up a peaceful, loving world where no mind control or death was needed. Suck on that you holy rollers. Now the guy who I am Channeling, I sense a nigh unending flame of fury and a deep sadness.”
!!!WARNING!!! BLATANTLY ALLUDING TO THE NATURE OF THE PLOT TO A LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT DO NOT ALREADY KNOW IS FORBIDDEN UNDER THE RULES OF THIS NARRATIVE AND IS PUNISHABLE BY IMMEDIATE DESTRUCTION! !!!DO NOT DO THIS!!!
(I was gonna just go Targeting meteorite… but it's funnier this way.)
If we’re doing C2, only have one colonist per prison so as to reduce the probability people will notice, and stretch it out over a couple of months.+1
That was directed at the 4thbwall. Not anyone in the game world. And I did not mean Cheeubs escort him. I met to deal with Tommy’s mind.
But yes all Cherubs, those that survived. Should go back to parents.
4. B, but also start up some small rumors about it and a handful of much-less-true, slightly-more-plausible-sounding, much-easier-to-disprove things involving portals, the wormhole, and alternate universes so as to discredit the idea.
Vote to rename SPAMOVERLORD to CROSSOVERLORD for a week
:|Vote to rename SPAMOVERLORD to CROSSOVERLORD for a week
Done.
Re-asking for opinions on the Rebels problem. I will be jumping to it soon. You currently are voting for grab Fansworth and run to the coast to escape. Please confirm that this is what you want.+1
We need to completely rewrite that plan and also have a new vote on it given our new information.
Ok.We need to completely rewrite that plan and also have a new vote on it given our new information.
Then start. You have 18 hours before I take your earlier vote.
+1Ok.We need to completely rewrite that plan and also have a new vote on it given our new information.
Then start. You have 18 hours before I take your earlier vote.
Mumble to ourselves, pretending to do some mental arithmetic about where the Secondborn is and how long it will take him to get here, and conclude: “We’ve likely got several hours before that bastard gets here, but when he does, this whole place is getting torn apart. We need to get this place evacuated. We can tell them there’s a... hurricane coming. Maybe a tsunami, or an earthquake. If anything, it’s an underestimate of the destruction...”
+1Ok.We need to completely rewrite that plan and also have a new vote on it given our new information.
Then start. You have 18 hours before I take your earlier vote.
Mumble to ourselves, pretending to do some mental arithmetic about where the Secondborn is and how long it will take him to get here, and conclude: “We’ve likely got several hours before that bastard gets here, but when he does, this whole place is getting torn apart. We need to get this place evacuated. We can tell them there’s a... hurricane coming. Maybe a tsunami, or an earthquake. If anything, it’s an underestimate of the destruction...”
Of course we’ll tell him about it. After we’re mostly much done with the current nonsense, and we’re definitely in a safe spot.In my humble opinion, +1
+1 to everything Glass saysI’m not sure if I should keep the current quote from Blue or make this my sig. :-\
+1 to everything Glass saysI’m not sure if I should keep the current quote from Blue or make this my sig. :-\
Fair enough. Gimme a moment.+1 to everything Glass saysI’m not sure if I should keep the current quote from Blue or make this my sig. :-\
Just add mine (and anyone else's) underneath blue's.
A+C, include D if he doesn’t seem inclined to keep it secret.+1
The C part is mostly about putting emphasis on the fact that he can’t share any of it because of what would happen.
If we have to do D, he won’t be harmed; we just need him to be not able to spread the word. We’ll still evacuate him, but with people that already know (I.e. the people that work for us) rather than with normal civilians.
EDIT: Potentially tell him about the Secondborn. You guys figure that out; I’m not sure.
I have no idea why people are insisting on keeping everything as a secretWhat would you do if you were told an immortal demigod that could blow up your city with magic was coming, and he had a grudge against people that were in said city? Especially if you were told by the government?
I spent a time looking for hidden messages on the musicYeah, same here.
I'm going to put it here in case it's useful Soon
How much andantesite do we have? Any? Because if we have some around I want it prepared. If we can stop the Secondborn from moving, that should help greatly.
Where’s the pyrokineticist girl?
What proportion of the people that aren’t leaving are Goons? What proportion of the people that are leaving are goons?
Pass a message through to the OotS people - both natives and our - about the current situation, and ask if they’ve got any advice.
Try to contact Erin.
Pray to Acter.
EDIT: Classes. Specifically, D&D classes, and levels. Do we have them, and if so, what are they? If we don’t, can we acquire them, and if so, how?
Can Celling become a cleric of Acter?
A+B. I feel that the OOTS people know more about fighting god-like powers than us and we should take their advice, and the andantesite is just plain useful.+1
Hmn.... just the andantesite. The death of the rest of the Protinam wasn’t our doing, but I don’t want the death of the last remanants of their organization on our head.+1
Hmn.... just the andantesite. The death of the rest of the Protinam wasn’t our doing, but I don’t want the death of the last remanants of their organization on our head.+1
Let's keep him from being able to possess anyone else. Assuming he can't possess someone who is fourth-wall-aware, which would pose some...intriguing possibilities.
If he does that, Blue, then all you get is a Secondborn that is now aware that neither this world nor his old one are real, his old world has stagnated into a frozen moment in time, and you are controlling one of the people trying to overthrow the Cisharni.Hmn.... just the andantesite. The death of the rest of the Protinam wasn’t our doing, but I don’t want the death of the last remanants of their organization on our head.+1
Let's keep him from being able to possess anyone else. Assuming he can't possess someone who is fourth-wall-aware, which would pose some...intriguing possibilities.
Thank you for that excellent idea!
+1A+B. I feel that the OOTS people know more about fighting god-like powers than us and we should take their advice, and the andantesite is just plain useful.+1
Hurry up the evacuation and get us out of here.[much-put-upon sigh]
“Secondborn hooked up with the Mittani. We don’t have as much time as I thought. I can explain further once we’re out of here.”
+1 yes, and we could make sure more tropes are active of themselves, but we should evac now.Hurry up the evacuation and get us out of here.[much-put-upon sigh]
“Secondborn hooked up with the Mittani. We don’t have as much time as I thought. I can explain further once we’re out of here.”
+1
I mean, that or we just allow a confrontation between Rebels and Should-Not-Be-Here. After all, the Secondborn is now the mysterious Even Bigger Bad of this story, the Plot will pull out all the stops to ensure a win for the Rebels.
In fact there's probably a trope that'd basically "force" us onto the Rebels' side at this point since the Big Bad is coming for us and we have a common goal, etc. etc.
So, we have just won. The Plot literally demands that after all the sacrifice and hardship and misunderstanding between the Rebels and us (the effective leaders of the Republic such as it is, minus those rubber-stamp NPCs) our dramatic last stand will be successful, and the Rebels will manage to use the combination of plot armor, fortuitous incompetence, and the MacGuffin(s) to win the day.Y’know what, +1 to this.
We send one character to hold off the Secondborn, the other hangs back and protects JV. This (almost) ensures that one of them will survive, since the second one will be on the "last ditch success" team. We'll need to send some of the rebels to the last stand, too, to ensure cooperation and also to improve the power of the tropes blue has just handed us a gilded silver platter.
The Mittani could conceivably see this, and no doubt blue will make him see it because he doesn't want to lose. But it doesn't matter. The Secondborn's calling the shots here, and he's not fourth-wall-aware and the Plot will drive him to fulfill his role and attack us to gain the Ultimate MacGuffin-Filled Victory, because tropes. The Plot will also try and force the Mittani to not interfere through various means, because it is in the best interests of the Plot for the Rebels to win this big victory against the true biggest threat and to save the innocent trapped inside the monster etc. etc. etc.
-snip-Y’know what, +1 to this.
However.
Instead of having JV making the key, either try to do it ourselves or have one of the rebels trying to make it.
I suspect that JV is too young to actually understand the situation and get desperate.
“Fuck you, and fuck the Mittani for helping you.”
Punch this fucker. Again. In the face.
Gun. Do I have it on me?
If yes, shoot him.
Killer Joule de Protonne, one of the marksmen brought along by Farnsworth, fires on the Secondborn.
Get to a distance and start shooting.
endless facepalms for the GM attempting to quickhammer and then breaking all the rules doing it
Draw firearm, take careful aim.
TILL THE ENDDo you mean Till it’s Over (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=usXhiWE2Uc0)?
Do I smell some Shapes and Beats?TILL THE ENDDo you mean Till it’s Over (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=usXhiWE2Uc0)?
Do I smell some Shapes and Beats?TILL THE ENDDo you mean Till it’s Over (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=usXhiWE2Uc0)?
A person!
Do you want me to join?
He’s the Spacescape guy!Do I smell some Shapes and Beats?TILL THE ENDDo you mean Till it’s Over (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=usXhiWE2Uc0)?
Who are you?
B with a dramatic speech "WE WILL NOT LET YOUR KIND MAKE SLAVES OF MY PEOPLE, WE FIGHT, TILL THE END" to make sure the plot understand what it's our role in the dramatic fight+1
"SOMEONE, GET THE KEY""
C, shoot the Secondborn. It adds to the drama of the scene.
*poke*
A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A FUCK THE MITTANI WHY DIDN’T WE START SHOOTING HIM AS SOON AS HE SHOWED UP
Because the GM doesn't care about reality, realism, or even reasonable responses?
Shoot the bloody Mittani, carefully so we don't hit Jacob, of course. Not that we're actually in such a configuration that this will be a problem, given where we're standing.
Also, why in the HECK did any of us just....let the Mittani step from shadows over to Anna, bend over, grab the Key, disassemble it, then speak a bog-standard villainous phrase? That makes zero sense, we have had plenty of reaction time from Anna crumpling to the Mittani speaking to do almost anything, including cross the room to tackle him.
Then give us the option as soon as he appears, not after he’s already taken the damn Key.
“Nobody touches the key. We get it in a clear box a pair of sticks or something and get Anna and David to a med center. And someone, remove the Mittani’s head. I don’t want the Secondborn somehow possessing him or anything like that.”Aren't there multiple soldiers in the room? Aren't we in a military base? Someone shoot Mittani's head unit it turns to paste
try to fart silently-1
Killer Joule de Protonne scrambles for the Key!
Killer Joule de Protonne scrambles for the Key!Restrain him.
Fuck it, try to get the parrot here to tell us about the Azure City situation to point out to everyone that we have more important things to worry about than continued fuckery with the Key.
-_-Try to pry both of these dumbasses off of the Key.
Using Fansworth's majestic abilities of command and military close combat training, order our men to jump in and restrain both of them, as they are. Yes, both holding the Key still. Fansworth himself will make sure that neither one gets ahold of it, by grabbing it himself if necessary.
Yell at the others "Nobody takes that thing til we figure out what it did to Anna!"
Just go check on Anna while yelling at the troops to shoot KJP if he manages to get ahold of the Key, and restrain Jacob if he does the same.
Gemstone's too small to send the mooks in after the melee there, we'll just shoot or restrain anyone who wins before they can do too much damage.
de Protonne continues to struggle for possession of the Key in the name of the Republic
For my action, I quickly shoot one of the rebels to cause confusion, toss out a one-liner, and run.
“...get out. You monster, GET OUT!”
Bloody rage. Key. Remove the Secondborn. Damn the fucking consequences.
Of note: Celling should display all the body language cues that make clear that a person has gone into Righteous Vengeance mode. Because he has.
“...get out. You monster, GET OUT!”
Bloody rage. Key. Remove the Secondborn. Damn the fucking consequences.
Of note: Celling should display all the body language cues that make clear that a person has gone into Righteous Vengeance mode. Because he has.
Key's on the floor, in case you missed that.
I’m aware.“...get out. You monster, GET OUT!”
Bloody rage. Key. Remove the Secondborn. Damn the fucking consequences.
Of note: Celling should display all the body language cues that make clear that a person has gone into Righteous Vengeance mode. Because he has.
Key's on the floor, in case you missed that.
Fallacy can act too now, by the way.SG93IGFyZSB5b3Ugc3VyZSB0aGF0J3MgdGhlIFNlY29uZGJvcm4/So, what’s this?
What the fuck is happeningNobody fucking knows.
Fallacy just strolled into a room full of people fighting over the Key. Fansworth's/my men are restraining KJP and David while Glass goes for the Key to enter mental duel with the Secondborn, while Fansworth/I and the rest of my men shoot the Secondborn til he dies.Ok, Madman mostly knows.
I recommend that you take control of one of the soldiers restraining KJP, and shoot him til he dies. That should just about wrap up all our loose ends.
Did he go crazier then usual?Yes. We could have had a much more useful add-on to the turn where David received a vision of a possible good future, instead of Fal and a small army of extra soldiers and scientists converging on our location for basically no reason.
“...get out. You monster, GET OUT!”
Bloody rage. Key. Remove the Secondborn. Damn the fucking consequences.
Of note: Celling should display all the body language cues that make clear that a person has gone into Righteous Vengeance mode. Because he has.*sigh*
My gun will be pointed at David/the Secondborn/whoever they are until such time as it is made certain that they are not the Secondborn or, if they are the Secondborn, they’re dead/unconscious/some other neutralized status.
Whoops, heheh, final project due date is 10am, better finish this now instead of later.
Since I'm still here:
Start firing, order our men to start firing, and don't stop under the Secondborn is dead.
“...get out. You monster, GET OUT!”
Bloody rage. Key. Remove the Secondborn. Damn the fucking consequences.
Of note: Celling should display all the body language cues that make clear that a person has gone into Righteous Vengeance mode. Because he has.
Key's on the floor, in case you missed that.
De Protonne grabs it. Vive la République!
"... Ah. Is now a good time? ... Alright, Fansworth gave the order. Fire in the hole! (There's about fifteen minute's opportunity for revivification, it can wait until this is sorted out!)"
Bang bang at the Secondborn as Fansworth orders. Non-combatants and Fallas himself take cover, bringing the equipment with them.
Follow Farnsworth orders
Kill KJP
and fart loudly
Sorry, was working on web design final project.
Have it get some paper and a pencil out of hammerspace or something (I mean, preferably from realspace, but hammerspace if there is none in realspace or its too dangerous to access) and start writing down the Azure City situation.
Parrot should get back to realspace.
Have the parrot enter hammerspace behind the side of the boat (Spend 1 willpower if the action isn't in writing as of the edit timestamp)
Enter hammerspace through the space between the guardrails? (1 Willpower) Surely there's some OSHA compliance in this benevolent republic...
-_-
Try to get Jacob to calm the fuck down.
Parrot should get back to realspace.
Have the parrot pick up some glass object from hammerspace. (1 Willpower)
-_-
Try to get Jacob to calm the fuck down.
Order the men back from the raging lunatic, move in and attempt to calm him down with kind words. I dunno, I'm travelling right now, OK?
Nothing too specific to do, then.
Help Fallas team to move equipment
"Balls. Well, men, you know what to do if things go south."
If Jacob is not calmed down... he gets bullets. If the fighting finally stops, Fallas looks to Fansworth for instructions on who to revive.
Ah, so he’s in my head right now. Same as Booner was. Wonderful.
Push all of my info on the front wall to the front of my mind, clear for Jacob to see.
Give me a moment please. Do not quickhammer.
Obtain a Republic warship and loyal crew.
"I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, but this vessel has been requisitioned by Lord Iridium. You can pledge your undying loyalty to Him and continue to serve on this ship, or I shall give you a reassignment to the bottom of the Atlantic. Nothing personal, but this is rather important."
With Fansworth's permission, if it's given, Fallas and his scientists start the process to revive Anna.
Get some troops together and go after Iridium.
Have the parrot reappear inside some important box/container carried in by Fallas' throng, possibly displacing the contents into hammerspace if necessary. (1 Willpower)
I assume I’m arriving at the ship soon? That, or being contacted over radio. The point is that I expect to be talking to Ganara soon, but I’m not actually doing that right this second.
Either we talk in a series of mini turns or we talk next turn.
Parrot action now, ship action later:
Have the parrot glass Jacob and make off with the Key+glove! (2 Willpower)
"SQUAWWWWWWWK!!!! SQUAWWWWWWK!!!"
Cuan Jucharadorismo de la Plata fires on the mutinous captain. All hail Lord Iridium!I shoot Jucharadorismo as soon as I see him aim.
Cuan Jucharadorismo de la Plata fires on the mutinous captain. All hail Lord Iridium!I shoot Jucharadorismo as soon as I see him aim.
darn spawncampers"It's alright guys I'll spawn in and then we can get out of this zone and onto world domination."
"PARROT!"
grab the parrot/key, put inside the jacket or whatever
"you can go to hammerspace with the gauntlet, if you can take me too It would be helpfull"
I don't have much better to do.
Start reading the time since Anna died
Let go of the gauntlet and fly into the arms of someone who's trying to grab it.
Cuan Jucharadorismo de la Plata fires on the mutinous captain. All hail Lord Iridium!
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The next SPAMOVERLORD update will be written entirely in couplets.Blue has been affected by Lliteration.
"Anyhow. It's probably best we get started on the resurrection process, then."
Get to work on resurrecting Anna. Fallacy, looking through his DNA vials, selects a vial of wolf DNA to use with the process.
"Keep the gun down, kid. We're trying to save lives, not take them."
Don't fire unless he manages to clear the gun out of the holster. Plenty of warning before that point, military reflexes,roll at advantage,you know the drill.
CJP holsters his gun, salutes, and leaves.
“Skipping the trial isn’t how we’re supposed to do things here... fine. But keep an eye on him, in case he shows other tendencies to jump the gun on these things.”
Pet the parrot
just saying, this burst of violence from jacob brought him a few steps to the dark side
Get Jacob's attention (+1 willpower)
"Bugger. Knew we should have started human trials before this. We'll have to do more tests. Honestly expected more of that."
A, B+C
+1, that the best part, Fallas failed, so not bringing him give T.Levaitan a chance to do itThat's incorrect. Without the equipment Fallas brings, T. Levin can't do a thing.
Sorry about that, then+1, that the best part, Fallas failed, so not bringing him give T.Levaitan a chance to do itThat's incorrect. Without the equipment Fallas brings, T. Levin can't do a thing.
A,D+1 to this.
Err T Levin can make his own shit up given the fact he had a idea of the resurrection with Fallas tools. He can always make his own shit up ( which he plans to do. In the New World.)(Except if Fallas doesn't arrive, you won't have any equipment you need to resurrect. Fallas brought a whole convoy with him.)
A, B+C+1
B, C+1
Hail Lord Iridium!
A, B+C: Glass, Lev, MM
A, D: Rock and Fal
B, C: Iri and KJP
Just clearing up the voting situation.A: Glass, Lev, MM, Rock, Fal
B: Iri, KJP
B+C: Glass, Lev, MM
D: Rock, Fal
C: Iri, KJP
"SFN Praetereo hailing SFN Vega. Request purpose of SFN Vega."
“Alright, Florist, I know you know the same things I do, and you have two choices: accept Levin’s help this time, or return back to Antarctica. You know what I’m talking about, and you know what the offer is if you choose the latter.”
I actually just changed it right before you posted. :p
I fully assure you, I saw everything.I actually just changed it right before you posted. :p
The Plot: You saw nothing
I fully assure you, I saw everything.I actually just changed it right before you posted. :p
The Plot: You saw nothing
Erin makes sure there aren’t other, non-fourth-wall-aware people around him.
“Florist, don’t play dumb. We both know about the fourth wall. We both know that you’re off to resurrect Anna. We both know that you’ll critically fail, and that Levin would be able to make it work if you actually accept his help. And we both know that if you return, I’ll let you do your tests on people that die in hospitals here in Antarctica so that you can refine the process, and Celling and his men can get Anna to Azure City and try for a rez their way. But if you neither accept Levin’s help note return to Antarctica, then we both know that you will screw up exactly as you did the first time around.”
Wait, stop, I got confused as to where the sailor was, and would like to request permission to revise what was said originally. Is permission granted?
Thank you.
Before stating the thing I was going to express, Erin will tell the captain, “Sir, what I’m about to talk about is classified information, so I will have to request that you leave the radio station.”
“Florist, don’t play dumb. We both know about the fourth wall. We both know that you’re off to resurrect Anna. We both know that you’ll critically fail, and that Levin would be able to make it work if you actually accept his help. And we both know that if you return, I’ll let you do your tests on people that die in hospitals here in Antarctica so that you can refine the process, and Celling and his men can get Anna to Azure City and try for a rez their way. But if you neither accept Levin’s help note return to Antarctica, then we both know that you will screw up exactly as you did the first time around.”That song and dance was totally necessary. Having you reveal the fourth wall and get the Vega meteor'd in the middle of the ocean would be !!fun!!
I also decided how the plot is going to talk: Like this!You look like a blithering idiot.
I also decided how the plot is going to talk: Like this!You look like a blithering idiot.
Imagine if there was somebody listening in on you talking.
Imagine if there was somebody listening in on you talking.
Trope detected: Tempting Fate (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TemptingFate) | Processing...
"Well obviously I'm going to take the hospital option, but that doesn't change the fact that you shouldn't be mentioning the fourth wall willy-nilly. Imagine if there was somebody listening in on you talking-
I’d just like to express that this is beyond idiotic on every facet."Well obviously I'm going to take the hospital option, but that doesn't change the fact that you shouldn't be mentioning the fourth wall willy-nilly. Imagine if there was somebody listening in on you talking-
"'sceuse me, sirs" a chirpy male voice says. "This is probably some deep classified bull, but I'm at the Adelaide Relay Station and just picked up this headset by accident, and... what the hell is a fourth wall, sirs?"
-_-
“It means nothing without context, which you neither have nor are authorized to have. If you somehow figure it out on your own despite that, send a notice to the Department of Cryptography and they’ll give you a job. In the meantime, put down the headset and leave.”
C, plus a semi-B to check to make sure he’s not a spy and areat him if it seems he is, but otherwise just watch.+1 but also A since we still need to talk to Fallas the massively incompetent.
Why? they can talk ooc.C, plus a semi-B to check to make sure he’s not a spy and areat him if it seems he is, but otherwise just watch.+1 but also A since we still need to talk to Fallas the massively incompetent.
Actually... +1 to Madman.C, plus a semi-B to check to make sure he’s not a spy and areat him if it seems he is, but otherwise just watch.+1 but also A since we still need to talk to Fallas the massively incompetent.
C, plus a semi-B to check to make sure he’s not a spy and areat him if it seems he is, but otherwise just watch.+1 as is
+1 and talk in fucking ooc next time.C, plus a semi-B to check to make sure he’s not a spy and areat him if it seems he is, but otherwise just watch.+1 as is
Levin ducks under his gay maker
Levin ducks under his gay maker
Someone sig this.
(for the record, it's "haymaker")
B+A. It’s dangerous enough that if he tells people, killing him would be the only punishment severe enough for the amount of damage he’ll have done.+1
Okay, stop.
“Yes. Have I mentioned yet that if you return to Antarctica, you can test your equipment on people who’ve died in hospitals? I believe I have, but I’d just like to make sure.
There’s no reason to go off to South America because of something that you don’t even actually know will happen.”
No pathetically slow GM can stop me!
Shoot Iridium in the foot, punch the Secondborn in the face, and if Iridium hasn’t stopped yet, pursue.
Additionally, query: if we retconned to the linked post, I believe that everyone except Madman has 11 willpower.
"Don't try it or I will shoot. We're quite done with the eldritch mind-games now. This means you too, Secondwind, why don't you just sit down before you get shot into many, many, many tiny pieces."
If Jacob tries for the Key again, end this. One bullet, one neck, no hesitation, one lovely rolled-at-advantage trigger pull. Call over a medic to check Anna's condition and attempt resuscitation if viable.
"Corporal Alders, check that casualty." (Naming mooks and trying to save injured enemies once the fight's over. It's the responsible thing to do, you know? Almost like we're the opposite of war criminals or something [darn you Tyrant and your war crimes])
Fine then.
Shoot Iridium and the Secondborn in quick succession. Both in nonlethal but painful locations.
Cue Levin in with silver bayonets, heirlooms of his grandfather in da war. Stabs the secondborn in guys with them.
“ Heathen creatures like you shalt not previal.”
push knowledge of the Fourth Wall into both Jacob and David.
"Ok, I believe you, but you've still got a link to where he came from. Do you know if he went back that way, or did he escape outwards?"
Call over a couple of soldiers to get Jacob properly secured. As usual, if he tries anything, he gets shot.
"Ok. I'm going to shut down the link. It'll probably take away the powers you got from him - I don't know for certain - but we can't risk him coming back. Shutdown in five... four... three... two... one." Celling shuts down David's link to the world of Sindari: Immortals."Ok, I believe you, but you've still got a link to where he came from. Do you know if he went back that way, or did he escape outwards?"
David clutches his head. "He... agh... yeah, I think he got blown back to his world. Not gonna be a problem anymore. I hope."
"He said Jacob, not David, mates."
D. Ask him to work on the subject, but not to use his abilities too extensively as it may draw attention, on both sides of the link. Then go on to transport - after removing the Key gauntlet, if possible.+1
Begin plan F: Wherein we carefully leave, posting guards in pairs and whatnot. Get back to the base, and lock David in a very dungeon-esque, windowless room, accessed through a pair of doors the outer one of which is just a set of bars to allow the guards to see in. The airlock setup improves security, you see. Include a blackboard or steampunk projector or whatever we have, full of the details of why breaking the wormhole is a Very Bad Ideatm. David will, of course, be well cared for. We're not barbarians. Bring with us a list of the most corrupt or evil barons the King has not yet been able to legally arrest quite yet. Then, we pull up a chair, and wait for our next visitor.
I am quite sure he will join us soon. After all, such things have....a way, of resolving themselves.
Yes, yes, we know. Jacob.Begin plan F: Wherein we carefully leave, posting guards in pairs and whatnot. Get back to the base, and lock David in a very dungeon-esque, windowless room, accessed through a pair of doors the outer one of which is just a set of bars to allow the guards to see in. The airlock setup improves security, you see. Include a blackboard or steampunk projector or whatever we have, full of the details of why breaking the wormhole is a Very Bad Ideatm. David will, of course, be well cared for. We're not barbarians. Bring with us a list of the most corrupt or evil barons the King has not yet been able to legally arrest quite yet. Then, we pull up a chair, and wait for our next visitor.
I am quite sure he will join us soon. After all, such things have....a way, of resolving themselves.
David?
Soldiers are to keep their eyes up, moving in minimum groups of two and checking in every sixty seconds. Movement is not to be investigated, but rather called in while the units continue moving as fast as possible towards their destinations.
Celling, Fansworth, Jacob, and a squad of soldiers (one of whom is the right size to swap clothes with Jacob) head inside, Jacob and the soldier swap clothes and the soldier is tied up (Jacob is not), then we go back outside. Jacob will be watched but not bound for now. Once we get outside, the same squad (having been briefed inside while the two swap clothes) start a fistfight. This is broken up, and several of the members are tied up...including Jacob. The tied-up squad, Jacob (in disguise), and some other soldiers go with Fansworth to the docks, the fake Jacob and the rest of the soldiers and David go with Celling to the trains. Anna's body is carried with Celling's group.
Alrighty then, let's act professional about this.Quote from: Plan ZSoldiers are to keep their eyes up, moving in minimum groups of two and checking in every sixty seconds. Movement is not to be investigated, but rather called in while the units continue moving as fast as possible towards their destinations.
Celling, Fansworth, Jacob, and a squad of soldiers (one of whom is the right size to swap clothes with Jacob) head inside, Jacob and the soldier swap clothes and the soldier is tied up (Jacob is not), then we go back outside. Jacob will be watched but not bound for now. Once we get outside, the same squad (having been briefed inside while the two swap clothes) start a fistfight. This is broken up, and several of the members are tied up...including Jacob. The tied-up squad, Jacob (in disguise), and some other soldiers go with Fansworth to the docks, the fake Jacob and the rest of the soldiers go with Celling to the trains.
Order these from greatest to least priority:Since it seems people didn't quite get this: this is not a "pick one" thing. This is a "rank priorities of these three things". Imagine that you're giving one of them 3 votes, one of them 2 votes, and one of them 1 vote. The one with the most votes gets the highest priority, the one with the least gets the lowest.
A: “Be on the watch for rescue attempts. There may be other cells of rebels that we don’t know about.”
B: “Carefully guard Jacob to preclude any possibility of escape.”
C: “Send some people to search the nearby area for that parrot. We need its report!”
To give a reason to tie up/restrain the guys, so we're not just suddenly doing it to our disguised Jacob.Why would we want to restrain Jacob if he's cooperative enough to go with our plans?
Basically, to draw attention away from what the actual situation is.
We never said that he was going to be cooperative enough to go along with it. Just because we say they swap clothes doesn't mean Jacob was happy to do so.To give a reason to tie up/restrain the guys, so we're not just suddenly doing it to our disguised Jacob.Why would we want to restrain Jacob if he's cooperative enough to go with our plans?
Basically, to draw attention away from what the actual situation is.
A part of the reason we need to work so hard is to make it harder for him to do something, we tell him we switch to avoid suspicion for political conspiracy or something and then someone punch him in the face.-1 (negative vote) to this because A. I don’t think it’s a good plan to keep virtually everyone in the dark and B. I really don’t want Blue just taking this before any discussion happens.
B
B we don't need him going through a redemption arc
A as real as possible, means all eggs in one basket for us.
A screw the parrot
Fair on the second one, maybe we can tell commanders and such, but important characters to the plot are the weakest to it's effect (most valid tropes) and therefore need to remain in the dark, and the more that know is the more info can slip from.A part of the reason we need to work so hard is to make it harder for him to do something, we tell him we switch to avoid suspicion for political conspiracy or something and then someone punch him in the face.-1 (negative vote) to this because A. I don’t think it’s a good plan to keep virtually everyone in the dark and B. I really don’t want Blue just taking this before any discussion happens.
B
B we don't need him going through a redemption arc
A as real as possible, means all eggs in one basket for us.
A screw the parrot
-1 (negative vote) to this because A. I don’t think it’s a good plan to keep virtually everyone in the dark and B. I really don’t want Blue just taking this before any discussion happens.
@Madman You missed the question about Anna. And I feel like we can probably send a fourth-wall message to the parrot to just return to base or something, or maybe be waiting at the trains or dock.
Because it's unclear who she's being carried with.@Madman You missed the question about Anna. And I feel like we can probably send a fourth-wall message to the parrot to just return to base or something, or maybe be waiting at the trains or dock.
Right. Why is there a question about Anna, exactly? Her corpse is being moved with us, same as (presumably) any friendly casualties.
Yeah, we can write the parrot's new orders into a plan for this turn.
Because it's unclear who she's being carried with.@Madman You missed the question about Anna. And I feel like we can probably send a fourth-wall message to the parrot to just return to base or something, or maybe be waiting at the trains or dock.
Right. Why is there a question about Anna, exactly? Her corpse is being moved with us, same as (presumably) any friendly casualties.
Yeah, we can write the parrot's new orders into a plan for this turn.
Because it's unclear who she's being carried with.@Madman You missed the question about Anna. And I feel like we can probably send a fourth-wall message to the parrot to just return to base or something, or maybe be waiting at the trains or dock.
Right. Why is there a question about Anna, exactly? Her corpse is being moved with us, same as (presumably) any friendly casualties.
Yeah, we can write the parrot's new orders into a plan for this turn.
"Anna's body is carried with Celling's group."
Not really, no.
There’s some disagreement on what happens to Anna’s body
A: Bring it with Celling (Madman’s idea)
B: Bring it with Fansworth
C: Send it with a third group toanother locationa medical center (Glass’s idea)
Proposition: have Erin slash Florist's budget, reason given being that he's expending large portions of it on frivolous and far-too-expensive projects that only serve to benefit Florist and his hobbies as opposed to doing anything of value for the Republic
Imply that if this behavior continues he may be investigated for some applicable crimes (embezzlement, maybe, or potentially treason)
Whelp, since we’re all thoroughly done with this section (not in the manner that we finished it, but that we are mentally done with dealing with it), I’m voting for MM’s plan (even if it’s not technically finalized) with the various results of the discussion had about it included.Additionally, due to a coin-flip over Discord, it seems that we’re having Anna brought to a medical facility.
So to summarize: Madman’s big plan,Anna to the medical center, try to make he parrot just go to the trains or docks (I’m thinking to the trains, to make the Plot look more closely at Celling and less closely at Fansworth; after all, the parrot’s important).
EDIT: The secondborn hurricane warning thing means everything's been evacuated. Nevermind the med center plan, we'll just go with MM's original plan for Anna.
EDIT2: In other news:Quote from: Me, on Discord, to BlueProposition: have Erin slash Florist's budget, reason given being that he's expending large portions of it on frivolous and far-too-expensive projects that only serve to benefit Florist and his hobbies as opposed to doing anything of value for the Republic
Imply that if this behavior continues he may be investigated for some applicable crimes (embezzlement, maybe, or potentially treason)
For obvious reasons I'll have to -1 this.Quote from: Me, on Discord, to BlueProposition: have Erin slash Florist's budget, reason given being that he's expending large portions of it on frivolous and far-too-expensive projects that only serve to benefit Florist and his hobbies as opposed to doing anything of value for the Republic
Imply that if this behavior continues he may be investigated for some applicable crimes (embezzlement, maybe, or potentially treason)
"You know what also isn't professional? The way you treat me. You know normally I'm just fine. I've just had it with you, Quill. Had it with your smug superiority and stuck-up attitude towards me. Omnidisciplinary, true, but does that matter if you don't treat your subordinates with the respect they deserve? And as for my report? Gladly."
You claim that you're fine, professional, helpful, whatever. Prove it. Show us some advance that has come from your labs that doesn't involve a perversion of nature, a crime against humanity, or a crime against the LAWS of nature. Show us when you have actually helped people, and times when it was done in self-interest do not count.
1. @Blueturtle, did this actually happen, or is Fal just making assumptions?You claim that you're fine, professional, helpful, whatever. Prove it. Show us some advance that has come from your labs that doesn't involve a perversion of nature, a crime against humanity, or a crime against the LAWS of nature. Show us when you have actually helped people, and times when it was done in self-interest do not count.
"I've managed to genetically create magic beans. Literal beans that are magic. Do you not see the implications? We can scientifically study magic. And that's just for starters!"
1. @Blueturtle, did this actually happen, or is Fal just making assumptions?You claim that you're fine, professional, helpful, whatever. Prove it. Show us some advance that has come from your labs that doesn't involve a perversion of nature, a crime against humanity, or a crime against the LAWS of nature. Show us when you have actually helped people, and times when it was done in self-interest do not count.
"I've managed to genetically create magic beans. Literal beans that are magic. Do you not see the implications? We can scientifically study magic. And that's just for starters!"
2. Even if this did happen, we have access to the OotS-verse. We can study magic anyway.
3. We’re not looking for implications. We’re looking for concrete accomplishments. Assuming you did make magic beans, what is their actual use? Just “being magic” doesn’t really help at all.
An ouch bean is one of the species of beans Fallacy has been growing in his genetics testing garden.
D: "It's your choice but having you along is extra insurance that we can't be intercepted. You know what's going on here, you're aware of how this works. We can't afford the risk that otherworldly powers --- of various sorts --- will interfere in any teleportation attempts.+1
And another thing: Are you CERTAIN that that Pillar hasn't been corrupted or made into a failsafe by the Secondborn? And is there any reason you wouldn't be able to find it even if it was moved?
Furthermore, we know that powerful forces in the form of the Mittani were working here, even you may have trouble with their sort alone since we would REALLY prefer it if you could avoid, y'know, razing the town to the ground with the powers you have access to."
A: no change, if anyone gets close enough to the fake to spot a difference in hair color (surely we wear helmets or at least hats here in the military, every military has worn one or the other for millennia) or eye color, of all things then we've already screwed up, they should NOT be allowed that close to the fake or to the real thing, we're a military in combat operations not a parade. Oh, *and* they'd need to have someone in this hypothetical rescue team who already knows exactly the color of Jacob's hair and eyes.
B: no need to slow down the pace of the game right now...furthermore the sorts of enquiries that would need to be launched to evaluate the financial situation would take many weeks at best, or months if there's a real bureaucracy to go through. In other words....it's not something that needs to be addressed between now and the inevitable rescue attempt.
Jacob's a kid right now, an overly edgy teen to be exact. He can't rot in prison for much time at all, it'd be against the laws of narrative.
Ah, fair, +1D: "It's your choice but having you along is extra insurance that we can't be intercepted. You know what's going on here, you're aware of how this works. We can't afford the risk that otherworldly powers --- of various sorts --- will interfere in any teleportation attempts.+1
And another thing: Are you CERTAIN that that Pillar hasn't been corrupted or made into a failsafe by the Secondborn? And is there any reason you wouldn't be able to find it even if it was moved?
Furthermore, we know that powerful forces in the form of the Mittani were working here, even you may have trouble with their sort alone since we would REALLY prefer it if you could avoid, y'know, razing the town to the ground with the powers you have access to."
A: no change, if anyone gets close enough to the fake to spot a difference in hair color (surely we wear helmets or at least hats here in the military, every military has worn one or the other for millennia) or eye color, of all things then we've already screwed up, they should NOT be allowed that close to the fake or to the real thing, we're a military in combat operations not a parade. Oh, *and* they'd need to have someone in this hypothetical rescue team who already knows exactly the color of Jacob's hair and eyes.
B: no need to slow down the pace of the game right now...furthermore the sorts of enquiries that would need to be launched to evaluate the financial situation would take many weeks at best, or months if there's a real bureaucracy to go through. In other words....it's not something that needs to be addressed between now and the inevitable rescue attempt.
Jacob's a kid right now, an overly edgy teen to be exact. He can't rot in prison for much time at all, it'd be against the laws of narrative.
Though addendum: what Quill/Fallacy conflict? There’s no such thing.
D: "It's your choice but having you along is extra insurance that we can't be intercepted. You know what's going on here, you're aware of how this works. We can't afford the risk that otherworldly powers --- of various sorts --- will interfere in any teleportation attempts.
And another thing: Are you CERTAIN that that Pillar hasn't been corrupted or made into a failsafe by the Secondborn? And is there any reason you wouldn't be able to find it even if it was moved?
Furthermore, we know that powerful forces in the form of the Mittani were working here, even you may have trouble with their sort alone since we would REALLY prefer it if you could avoid, y'know, razing the town to the ground with the powers you have access to."
A: no change, if anyone gets close enough to the fake to spot a difference in hair color (surely we wear helmets or at least hats here in the military, every military has worn one or the other for millennia) or eye color, of all things then we've already screwed up, they should NOT be allowed that close to the fake or to the real thing, we're a military in combat operations not a parade. Oh, *and* they'd need to have someone in this hypothetical rescue team who already knows exactly the color of Jacob's hair and eyes.
B: no need to slow down the pace of the game right now...furthermore the sorts of enquiries that would need to be launched to evaluate the financial situation would take many weeks at best, or months if there's a real bureaucracy to go through. In other words....it's not something that needs to be addressed between now and the inevitable rescue attempt.
Jacob's a kid right now, an overly edgy teen to be exact. He can't rot in prison for much time at all, it'd be against the laws of narrative.
"What sources I had available indicated that the city was likely to be hit by a sudden disaster. The people know what to do about hurricanes and the evacuation was a sufficient response to ensure safety of the populace. The disaster was thankfully averted, but that had not been certain when we initiated the evacuation.-1
And I'm afraid we don't have a rebel with us. James Emand here is one of ours. We had him switch clothes with the captured rebel to prevent the actual escort from being intercepted by sympathizers. I'm sorry you fell for it too, sir. I mean, if you really need to take him for a bit to confirm it, you probably can, but he's not who you were looking for. Apologies."
Screw your options, screw your character, and screw your setting.Ok.
I think we say "this is classified military business dealing with an Antarctica-wide insurrection, if you attempt to stop us we will arrest you for the crime of aiding and abetting an enemy of the crown and the state."
+1Screw your options, screw your character, and screw your setting.Ok.
I think we say "this is classified military business dealing with an Antarctica-wide insurrection, if you attempt to stop us we will arrest you for the crime of aiding and abetting an enemy of the crown and the state."
+1
Agreeing with Madman. 1.I think because killing Jacob gives a motive for future plot chosen character much more then teaching him the truth.
Also why haven’t we just murdered Jacob yet given the chance? Plot armor only goes so damn far.
Mostly because DARNIT WE'RE THE GOOD GUYS and don't want to be the sort of people who murder children, even if it would be totally legal in any modern country to kill them for terrorism and treason and such.This. Because for all that this is a tropes-based story, we’re not what the Plot wants us to be, and we refuse to become it.
Screw your options, screw your character, and screw your setting.
I think we say "this is classified military business dealing with an Antarctica-wide insurrection, if you attempt to stop us we will arrest you for the crime of aiding and abetting an enemy of the crown and the state."
The Guardsman, a tall, handsome fellow, drew his revolver.
"Sir, with all due respect, I was never truly on your side," he said, in an accent neither Antarctican nor Argentine.
He pulled the trigger, waiting to see Baron Prenner Goldsmith breathe his last.
It is, to a degree, a matter of who's quicker on the draw. But more than that, it's accuracy.
Celling pulls out his own pistol, makes sure it's direct on the guardsman's head, and pulls the trigger.
"What was that, baron?"
Dramatic license, my dear Glass. You have much to learn.And yet, the entire situation is irrelevant to the Plot, and you especially. What here indicates the use of dramatic-based rules rather than standard ones>
Dramatic license, my dear Glass. You have much to learn.And yet, the entire situation is irrelevant to the Plot, and you especially. What here indicates the use of dramatic-based rules rather than standard ones>
No, don't chase him, SHOOT HIM HE'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF US AND ATTEMPTING TO LEG IT ON A DAMAGED LEG AND WE OUTNUMBER HIM A LOT. Medical check on the Baron, for whatever it (isn't) worth.
No, don't chase him, SHOOT HIM HE'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF US AND ATTEMPTING TO LEG IT ON A DAMAGED LEG AND WE OUTNUMBER HIM A LOT. Medical check on the Baron, for whatever it (isn't) worth.Fair. +1
AND OH, ONE LITTLE THING - THAT WAS IRIDIUM’S ROLL!I'd also like to note that Iridium did not take an action, and if anything we should have been the ones rolling.
Get on the damn train, and send radio notice to Fansworth's team, as well as to other nearby military and law enforcement units.
We know where the train is going, right? Iri can be apprehended there.
How about we tell David the following:+1
"Well, consider when the parrot shows up. It's all in the timing, you see."
And then we shoot the traitor quite un-climactically.
How about we tell David the following:+1 to this, and how about we finally get the damn report on Azure City we’ve been trying to get this whole time?
"Well, consider when the parrot shows up. It's all in the timing, you see."
And then we shoot the traitor quite un-climactically.
How about we tell David the following:+1
"Well, consider when the parrot shows up. It's all in the timing, you see."
And then we shoot the traitor quite un-climactically.
C,A,A, Radio to the Navy to escort.Why can’t he be stored with the other rebels?
The other rebels are on a train/prison/switched side/ what happened to their new smart one?I didn’t know that, also please don’t call me new smart one, I don’t know much about the game.
C,A,A, Radio to the Navy to escort.+1
I meant a character trope, the old "smart one" David, changed side and now is on our side, the new one we capture and was in the miletary base last time I remember.The other rebels are on a train/prison/switched side/ what happened to their new smart one?I didn’t know that, also please don’t call me new smart one, I don’t know much about the game.
Oh, I thought you called me smart one to be sarcastic about me not knowing much, sorry.I meant a character trope, the old "smart one" David, changed side and now is on our side, the new one we capture and was in the miletary base last time I remember.The other rebels are on a train/prison/switched side/ what happened to their new smart one?I didn’t know that, also please don’t call me new smart one, I don’t know much about the game.
A,B,B but chain each of his limbs to a different console none of which is within his (chained-up) reach. He's not immobile, just incapable of moving far enough from any of the consoles to reach the chains. Radio to the Navy to provide a faster vessel (a destroyer or comparable vessel type would work great) for us to transfer to en-route.+1
On the way, explain to him what has happened due to the rebellion he's decided to support, and the casualties that would've been caused by this "plan" of theirs.
Dynamic entry! Also +1.A,B,B but chain each of his limbs to a different console none of which is within his (chained-up) reach. He's not immobile, just incapable of moving far enough from any of the consoles to reach the chains. Radio to the Navy to provide a faster vessel (a destroyer or comparable vessel type would work great) for us to transfer to en-route.+1
On the way, explain to him what has happened due to the rebellion he's decided to support, and the casualties that would've been caused by this "plan" of theirs.
+1Dynamic entry! Also +1.A,B,B but chain each of his limbs to a different console none of which is within his (chained-up) reach. He's not immobile, just incapable of moving far enough from any of the consoles to reach the chains. Radio to the Navy to provide a faster vessel (a destroyer or comparable vessel type would work great) for us to transfer to en-route.+1
On the way, explain to him what has happened due to the rebellion he's decided to support, and the casualties that would've been caused by this "plan" of theirs.
A: Sweet, that solves one problem. We can rendezvous at the Falklands before returning to Argentina. I guess if Erin Quill can he'll travel to Argentina and we'll go with the boat to Antarctica, collect all the rebels, and have a little heart-to-heart chat.+1
Still +1 thoughA: Sweet, that solves one problem. We can rendezvous at the Falklands before returning to Argentina. I guess if Erin Quill can he'll travel to Argentina and we'll go with the boat to Antarctica, collect all the rebels, and have a little heart-to-heart chat.+1
“Community character”? Wait, as in a general-use PC like Celling?
I thought he was just going to stop being a thing.
I'll go with A, suggest that we mine his chambers with some high explosives just outside them, and negotiate. And ask the Order about soul-based resurrection though I see no real reason to bother resurrecting the dead rebels, just destroying the Key of Taloc because it's an abomination.We don’t have to resurrect the rebels, the knowledge can be used in future for our own troops
I'll go with A, suggest that we mine his chambers with some high explosives just outside them, and negotiate. And ask the Order about soul-based resurrection though I see no real reason to bother resurrecting the dead rebels, just destroying the Key of Taloc because it's an abomination.It gives us a lot of goddie points on the plot's counter.
Dang this is still going? What's a good way for me to get up to date on what's poppin? I don't have time to read it all right now.I didn’t read up on things before I joined, but things seem to be going well, if you have questions, you can ask the other players too. I’m new to this as well
Dang this is still going? What's a good way for me to get up to date on what's poppin? I don't have time to read it all right now.
Wait, how is there .5 votes?
So the first question is A now, so is the second question. If I am correct, this means the tie is broken
B for first, A for second.+1, as MM hasn't posted.
CBAED.+1
First off, what do we know of our soldiers' opinions?
Are they loyal to Fansworth and Celling?
For that matter, who are Fansworth and Celling's superiors, if any?
What do we know of their immediate superiors?
A, A with hints that there's hints of some deeper conspiracy acting seemingly at random, C, propose that he may receive leniency if he's willing to try to help improve the Republic rather than what he's been doing, with some of the second-to-last B mixed in with that explanation. And then finally B.+1
A, A with hints that there's hints of some deeper conspiracy acting seemingly at random, C, propose that he may receive leniency if he's willing to try to help improve the Republic rather than what he's been doing, with some of the second-to-last B mixed in with that explanation. And then finally B.
Essentially, though the first B is more that he may receive that leniency for that. Since, of course, we don't technically have that authority.A, A with hints that there's hints of some deeper conspiracy acting seemingly at random, C, propose that he may receive leniency if he's willing to try to help improve the Republic rather than what he's been doing, with some of the second-to-last B mixed in with that explanation. And then finally B.
There were six questions. Your answer is AACBBB, right? Offer him leniency for helping improve the Republic, and hint that you don't like how things are?
AADCCCBThere are only 6 choices, not 7 just delete 1 of the letters
AADCCCBThere are only 6 choices, not 7 just delete 1 of the letters
YesAADCCCBThere are only 6 choices, not 7 just delete 1 of the letters
I think it's one of the Cs, given that only question 3 has a D (so it's in the right place) and the last one is only A and B.
Rockeater, please confirm that your choice is AADCCB?
1. Quickly shoot the rope (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShootTheRope)
So we shoot all of them. Easy.1. Quickly shoot the rope (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShootTheRope)
There are multiple ropes going to all the different consoles, as you requested (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HoistByHisOwnPetard)
How about:Fair. +1.
"What do you think you're doing? You can't find any of these possibilities without MY help...and if you kill me, I obviously can't help you. Nobody in Antarctica will help you with this, nobody can, in fact. It's pretty much completely classified information. So, your options seem to be attempt to steal this vessel and be intercepted by an Antarctican naval task force, or leave. You don't want to get in a gun duel, since you don't know which of you I'll manage to shoot first, and I won't hesitate to fire to save myself or Jacob here."
They've put themselves in a neat little box. Let's inform them of the problem.
+1How about:Fair. +1.
"What do you think you're doing? You can't find any of these possibilities without MY help...and if you kill me, I obviously can't help you. Nobody in Antarctica will help you with this, nobody can, in fact. It's pretty much completely classified information. So, your options seem to be attempt to steal this vessel and be intercepted by an Antarctican naval task force, or leave. You don't want to get in a gun duel, since you don't know which of you I'll manage to shoot first, and I won't hesitate to fire to save myself or Jacob here."
They've put themselves in a neat little box. Let's inform them of the problem.
Fly to the door, but do not go through it; stay out of sight of anyone that might be on the other side. Once that position is reached, take a quick peek through.
Listen for sounds like those made by humans - chatter, footsteps, and the like - and go toward it, though be cautious as it gets nearer.
"SQUAWK!"
Look like a retarded bird while flying toward where the goons came from.
(Honestly this 1 is more like a 6.)
"Squack. Squack, squack. Squack." *CHOMP*Why waste time Squacking?
And fly off. Quickly.
We are currently caught thoughAh, thanks, missed that. +1, with the addition of “fly off while saying parrot things afterwards, if we escape”.
bite the person holding me
We are currently caught though
bite the person holding me
"Squack. Squack, squack. Squack." *CHOMP*
And fly off. Quickly.
Squawk loudly, wait at the door for a brief moment, then fly off down the hallway if nothing happens.
The bird will make as huge of a ruckus as it possibly can further down the hallway, making sure to always be a bit ahead of the Goons.+1
If Fansworth is able to activate the radio from his current location, he will do so. Otherwise, he will wait until the Goons have passed by the door and quietly creep out, in order to reach a better location. If he encounters Goons along the way, his first priority will be to hide from them, and if he can’t just slip past them, he’ll try to ambush them and choke them to death (or some other relatively silent manner of killing). Only if they notice him will he resort to using his gun.
The bird will make as huge of a ruckus as it possibly can further down the hallway, making sure to always be a bit ahead of the Goons.
If Fansworth is able to activate the radio from his current location, he will do so. Otherwise, he will wait until the Goons have passed by the door and quietly creep out, in order to reach a better location. If he encounters Goons along the way, his first priority will be to hide from them, and if he can’t just slip past them, he’ll try to ambush them and choke them to death (or some other relatively silent manner of killing). Only if they notice him will he resort to using his gun.
The parrot tries to bite one of the Goon's hands, whichever one it can reach. Fansworth heads towards the sound
(I noticed, I didn't know if Fansworth noticed. Changed post accordingly)The parrot tries to bite one of the Goon's hands, whichever one it can reach. Fansworth heads towards the sound
(the sound was the parrot falling if you didn't notice)
(and Fansworth knows this)
New goal for Fansworth:This remains my suggestion.
Stealthily disable the lifeboats.
New goal for the parrot:
Buy time for Fansworth to disable the lifeboats.
The parrot tries to bite one of the Goon's hands, whichever one it can reach.
Fansworth tries to rescure the parrot
New goal for Fansworth:This remains my suggestion.
Stealthily disable the lifeboats.
New goal for the parrot:
Buy time for Fansworth to disable the lifeboats.
New goal for Fansworth:This remains my suggestion.
Stealthily disable the lifeboats.
New goal for the parrot:
Buy time for Fansworth to disable the lifeboats.
The parrot tries to enter hammerspaceAh, true.
The parrot tries to enter hammerspaceAh, true.
Have it go around the thin thing that is their fingers and then return somewhere else on the ship, making a massive ruckus.
The parrot just tries to escape.+1
It utilize further shaky struggling antics to wriggle out of the offending hand and fly off.
The parrot just tries to escape.+1
It utilize further shaky struggling antics to wriggle out of the offending hand and fly off.
Fly out of the water, return to the ship, and, er, be loud.
Also there's no way that flying into a wall would result in falling into the water. There's too much deck on either side of the walls for that. So if we agree that the parrot is not actually in the water because it shouldn't be, then instead:
Just recover and start flying around and being loud.
There's no way the walls would be that close to the edge of the ship. And no way the parrot would be that bouncy even if they were.
So it falls to the ground and gets a concussion. The ocean is a couple hundred bits much.There's no way the walls would be that close to the edge of the ship. And no way the parrot would be that bouncy even if they were.
6
So it falls to the ground and gets a concussion. The ocean is a couple hundred bits much.There's no way the walls would be that close to the edge of the ship. And no way the parrot would be that bouncy even if they were.
6
Fly out of the water, return to the ship, and, er, be loud.
SQUAAAAAAWK
Conduct distractions! Loudly! And maybe poop on some of the goons!
Well, first thing to do is get David to do a quick scan of our soldiers' minds and disable any that are Goons.
If there actually are Goons, we can use the mindscans as justification to know about the traitors on the ship, and see if David can get us an accurate enough teleport of some troops.
Otherwise (and the thing I requested this for to begin with), since David killed a bunch of Protinam when he was under the control of the Secondborn, encourage him to do a scan for possible Protinam.
Like, a really wide scan.
Really wide.
As far as he can go.
Like, potentially-a-large-ways-into-the-opposite-hemisphere wide.
Hopefully-including-Greece-and-Italy wide.
A. Discreetly.+1
I was asking about if the Byzantines had done a Third Odyssey escape from Europe, and ended up with a 19.A. Discreetly.+1
What happened between you and Ryuken that the Byzantine empire got Protinam?
"What we have is a possibly-mad biologist's pet project and access to a location where they might be able to do resurrections, but which is currently a warzone. We can discuss this further at a later time in a better place."
"What we have is a possibly-mad biologist's pet project and access to a location where they might be able to do resurrections, but which is currently a warzone. We can discuss this further at a later time in a better place."
EDIT: This probably won't be necessary, because Blue realized he screwed up (with my prompting).
EDIT2: No retcon.
To clarify: I have decided that any time I do write a retcon, you may revise ANY action after the first time you could have plausibly heard about the thing being changed, in universe. And so may any other Fourth Wall user.Upgraded from "the next time". Preserved for posterity.
"What we have is a possibly-mad biologist's pet project, and access to a location where we might be able to do resurrections, but which is currently a warzone. We can discuss this further at a later time in a better place."
CCCB+1
CABB+1
+1CCCB+1
C. The 13 men remaining should be able to suitably keep them under guard, and it seems that local authorities have been unable to really deal with the Goons, so to higher authorities they go.
C. The 13 men remaining should be able to suitably keep them under guard, and it seems that local authorities have been unable to really deal with the Goons, so to higher authorities they go.+1
B. We asked for volunteers, we got volunteers. A bit less than the expected average, but oh well. Dealing with magic in a setting that mostly lacks it takes quite a bit of courage.
Fair enough.C. The 13 men remaining should be able to suitably keep them under guard, and it seems that local authorities have been unable to really deal with the Goons, so to higher authorities they go.
You mean the 6 men. The Baron's garrison will be returning to wherever they're usually stationed. Presumably, Celling's force will take the trains back.
+1C. The 13 men remaining should be able to suitably keep them under guard, and it seems that local authorities have been unable to really deal with the Goons, so to higher authorities they go.+1
B. We asked for volunteers, we got volunteers. A bit less than the expected average, but oh well. Dealing with magic in a setting that mostly lacks it takes quite a bit of courage.
Change due to information that our own men cannot themselves guard the goons on the train because they're going searching for the Mittani's corpse:+1
The Baron's guards will instead.
Come on, they now know they could have been infiltrated by Goonswarm at some point, they know they can't necessarily rely on the nearby authorities. It only makes sense.
+1Change due to information that our own men cannot themselves guard the goons on the train because they're going searching for the Mittani's corpse:+1
The Baron's guards will instead.
Come on, they now know they could have been infiltrated by Goonswarm at some point, they know they can't necessarily rely on the nearby authorities. It only makes sense.
Where are the Goons right now? We should know, due to the parrot.
In fact, the parrot can pretty much tell Fansworth where on the boat the Goons are the entire time because of the fourth-wall connection.
Right before it hits, the parrot wings its way up back to the ship.
The rebel and Goons are in the distance now. You are flying along the right (starboard) side of the ship, along a part of the deck that is just a narrow strip besides the superstructure wall to your left.
The group appears to be coming this way.
Can you add the superstructure walls to the map?
And am I correct in my assumption that the boat is going in the downward direction? Since the pointy end is down.
Alright, so given that the pointy end is forward, and the parrot was on the starboard side with the Goons approaching it, which is the left side of the image, we should take the rightward path right now, fast version (because we've got a large structure between us and the goons).+1
BB+1.
BB+1.
The parrot was coming from the back of the boat and the Goons were approaching it.
Fly in irregular “circles” above them (so that they can’t predict where we’ll be next) while slowly drawing them toward the top-left area.+1
Fly in irregular “circles” above them (so that they can’t predict where we’ll be next) while slowly drawing them toward the top-left area.+1
Continue the current plan, except now additionally casting aspersions at the species of their mothers.
Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!
Shit on them.+1, possibly aim for the Serious Goon
Shit on them.+1, possibly aim for the Serious Goon
Lets continue the previous plan, adding further evasive maneuvers, taunting Serious Sam (as he will be known from now on), and continuing to lead them toward the top-left corner (and if they reach that, to the top-right).+1
Lets continue the previous plan, adding further evasive maneuvers, taunting Serious Sam (as he will be known from now on), and continuing to lead them toward the top-left corner (and if they reach that, to the top-right).+1
1. Given that more time has progressed from last turn, multiple “turns” of movement would have occurred.
1. Given that more time has progressed from last turn, multiple “turns” of movement would have occurred.+1
2. Peck the lifeboat to put a hole in it and then use some nearby rope or something (because there’d be some on/near a lifeboat) to port into hammerspace, then come back out at the top-right area and make a loud raspberry at the Goons.
Fansworth: B.
Parrot: go fly over to the goons and keep distracting them.
First off. I think Fansworth is now off to the bottom-left. Switch to sneaky about halfway through.+1 (yep, it’s hungry goon)
As for the parrot...
Conduct evasive maneuvers, and yell out “DON’T LET HIM!” to our inside guy (hungry, I think?) (though I expect it’ll look like it’s to the entire group, but oh well...).
First off. I think Fansworth is now off to the bottom-left. Switch to sneaky about halfway through.
As for the parrot...
Conduct evasive maneuvers, and yell out “DON’T LET HIM!” to our inside guy (hungry, I think?) (though I expect it’ll look like it’s to the entire group, but oh well...).
No, I'd meant that Fansworth was now going toward the bottom-left. I'd suspected he was at the bottom-right already.
Anyway. Keep squacking about an "inside man". Keep them paralyzed in their confusion. Get their nerves up.
Goonswarm hurt itself in its confusion
(Oh cool, mini MafiaNo, I'd meant that Fansworth was now going toward the bottom-left. I'd suspected he was at the bottom-right already.
Anyway. Keep squacking about an "inside man". Keep them paralyzed in their confusion. Get their nerves up.
Goonswarm hurt itself in its confusion
A note: maroon is the color of secret text I've found.
Roll d6: [3] - Partial success
"AHAHAHA" squacks the parrot. "WE HAVE AN INSIDE MAN, HAHAH, YOU DON'T KNOW WHO-"
"Okay," says the serious Goon. "I'm probably not the inside man, because I'm holding this gun. And the rebel can be trusted too. None of the rest of you are safe."
"Who's to say the rebel can be trusted?" asks the hungry Goon (who is also the actual inside man). "We get this mission from the Mittani, to rescue this random enemy of the state if he dies. Why are we trusting this guy?"
"Yeah, that's exactly what an inside man would say," says the grabby Goon.
The brainy Goon thinks for a moment. "You know, accusing people for no reason and invoking Wine In Front Of Me are easy tells for a scum."
"What's with the big words?" asks the serious Goon. "Sounds like someone from the Republic."
The silent Goon gestures at the hungry Goon. "I don't know. He looked surprised."
"That's your logic?" asks the hungry Goon. "Everyone's surprised, man! Look, I don't know why we're even believing this bird!"
Jacob looks around frantically.
Votes:
Serious Goon --> Brainy Goon
Hungry Goon --> Jacob
Grabby Goon --> Serious Goon
Brainy Goon --> Grabby Goon
Silent Goon --> Hungry Goon
Nothing much happens. What do you do next?
"Fancy guns!"
Say it over and over again in a sing-song voice.
Wake up, grab the gun, and fly up into the air.(How would we grab it, though? We are in his grasp. Our wings are probably held to our sides by his hand. What is required for us to go into Hammerspace?)
If successful: "I HAVE THE FANCY GUNS!"
Wake up, grab the gun, and fly up into the air.
If successful: "I HAVE THE FANCY GUNS!"
...
I have no words.
The turkey starts irritably squawking at the serious Goon.
While the Serious Goon is distracted by the turkey, steal his gun.
Objection:
The Turkey got a 5 on its distraction roll.
This justifies the parrot acting with advantage.
Toss the gun a ways down the deck - toward the front of the boat - and then dive-bomb Silent in an attempt to force him to drop his weapon.
What's Silent's status, first?
...the stated goal was to disarm him. An overshoot is still supposed to include success at the stated action, even if with unintended negative consequences.What's Silent's status, first?
Fine. A bit bruised. Annoyed that a parrot just hit him. Aiming at you.
We disarmed the Serious Goon, who was our target at the time...the stated goal was to disarm him. An overshoot is still supposed to include success at the stated action, even if with unintended negative consequences.What's Silent's status, first?
Fine. A bit bruised. Annoyed that a parrot just hit him. Aiming at you.
The divebomb's target was Silent Goon, who was the second person trying to shoot us, after we already disarmed Serious Sam.We disarmed the Serious Goon, who was our target at the time...the stated goal was to disarm him. An overshoot is still supposed to include success at the stated action, even if with unintended negative consequences.What's Silent's status, first?
Fine. A bit bruised. Annoyed that a parrot just hit him. Aiming at you.
Flail around and try to stay in the boat.
Whelp, anyway.
Knock the gun out of Silent's hands - preferably overboard - and attempt to sabotage the lifeboat, then fly out of Goon range.
Catch ourselves in midair, fly back up, and see if we can sabotage the lifeboat in some manner - maybe from underneath. We were able to peck a hole in the other one earlier, we should be able to do that from the bottom as well as from the top.
These should be those rubber lifeboats, right? Not wooden?
Swim to shore.
wait that's not a good idea
Re-enter the boat.
Now peck a hole in the bottom of the raft the Goons are in.
Let’s peck holes in the other lifeboats here, so even if the Goons notice the hole, they’ll have to go elsewhere to get a good boat.
Explore a bit.
It's complicated. Suffice it to say that Fallacy was involved.I am one of those that less negative about fallacy's stuff, but ffs blue at least keep those things away from the main events.
The parrot is not a turkey.
The turkey is Iridium.
The parrot is still a parrot. It has been doing the things I've been suggesting.
Sabotage boat 2, completing our set here.
Open the door with my beak because that's totally a thing turkeys can do. Right?
"...I think Celling mentioned to me at one point that Fansworth thought his troops had been compromised by Goonswarm. It may not be the rebels that took the ship. Consider the ship suspect, not hostile yet. Can we attempt to board?"+1
+1"...I think Celling mentioned to me at one point that Fansworth thought his troops had been compromised by Goonswarm. It may not be the rebels that took the ship. Consider the ship suspect, not hostile yet. Can we attempt to board?"+1
+1"...I think Celling mentioned to me at one point that Fansworth thought his troops had been compromised by Goonswarm. It may not be the rebels that took the ship. Consider the ship suspect, not hostile yet. Can we attempt to board?"+1
Crap on the goons, and go to sabotage the boats they were going toward.+1
+1Crap on the goons, and go to sabotage the boats they were going toward.+1
As ever, as blue no doubt knows already....+1Crap on the goons, and go to sabotage the boats they were going toward.+1
Peck at the boats with no holes yetBut of course. +1.
Peck at the boats with no holes yetBut of course. +1.
B.+1 to both options
And the parrot should keep trying to make holes.
Also, where is Fansworth actually going? Please provide the map with locations.
+1B.+1 to both options
And the parrot should keep trying to make holes.
Also, where is Fansworth actually going? Please provide the map with locations.
+1B.+1 to both options
And the parrot should keep trying to make holes.
Also, where is Fansworth actually going? Please provide the map with locations.
Parrot: Continue pecking out holes.
Fansworth: No longer any need to be stealthy, this path is out of view anyway. And hell, if they realize there's someone else alive on the boat, they might slow down to investigate.
B.
I’d also like confirmation that we’ve all got weaponry (or in David’s case, that he either has weaponry or the capability to do combat magic).
“Pick A to win the game. Seriously.”
I don’t know if this is Blue trying to kill us or just get this finished. I’m going to wait a bit.
I say B, but they can eschew stealth and just try to get there as quickly as possible. We've got about the same number of people as the Goons, but our guys are Important CharactersTM.
And also probably just generally more experienced with guns than the Goons are. And the Goons don't have surprise this time.
I say B, but they can eschew stealth and just try to get there as quickly as possible. We've got about the same number of people as the Goons, but our guys are Important CharactersTM.
And also probably just generally more experienced with guns than the Goons are. And the Goons don't have surprise this time.
I believe a +1 was called for?
Keep pecking holes in the lifeboats, duh.
Why should we? It's working, and it makes more sense to work on this before they get here than to try to distract them right now.
Ergo, once more, peck holes in the lifeboats. One of boats 4, 5, and 6, in particular, since they have no holes as of yet.
Extricate ourselves, then fly right into the face of the gungoon.
Taunt the goons, while flying evasively. If there is a good opportunity, evacuate our bowels into the face of the serious goon.
Escape the serious goon's grasp and jump into "silent" (he's not really silent anymore...) goon's lifeboat. Then threaten to peck a hole in it.+1 during our escape, bite the hand thst is holding us
+1, especially to the part in maroon.Escape the serious goon's grasp and jump into "silent" (he's not really silent anymore...) goon's lifeboat. Then threaten to peck a hole in it.+1 during our escape, bite the hand thst is holding us
this parrot shall know the taste of flesh
A.+1
B+1
B. We know that it has the last rebel and a Goon on it, but we need to have plausible deniability.+1
+1B. We know that it has the last rebel and a Goon on it, but we need to have plausible deniability.+1
Also, make sure Brainy is disarmed and Serious is stabilized.
Try to gather supplies quickly (it is an urgent medical situation) and try to return quickly.
Part one: Give this man the look that epitomizes the skeptical "Really?" (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FascinatingEyebrow)+1
"What we had against the rebels is that their goal involved the destruction of one of the largest cities in the hemisphere, and potentially the sterilization of the entire continent. It has also come to our attention that they didn't know this. Quite frankly, Erin Quill has expressed interest in the recovering as many of the rebels as we can and show them not only how idiotic their plan was, but also that our government is not the monolithic beacon of terribleness that they thought it was. Without mind-altering substances, at that. Getting Anna back would be considered a boon to us as well, and we already have what we need to make it happen."
Part two:Try to gather supplies quickly (it is an urgent medical situation) and try to return quickly.
Part one: Give this man the look that epitomizes the skeptical "Really?" (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FascinatingEyebrow)
"What we had against the rebels is that their goal involved the destruction of one of the largest cities in the hemisphere, and potentially the sterilization of the entire continent. It has also come to our attention that they didn't know this. Quite frankly, Erin Quill has expressed interest in the recovering as many of the rebels as we can and show them not only how idiotic their plan was, but also that our government is not the monolithic beacon of terribleness that they thought it was. Without mind-altering substances, at that. Getting Anna back would be considered a boon to us as well, and we already have what we need to make it happen."
Part two:Try to gather supplies quickly (it is an urgent medical situation) and try to return quickly.
Yes.
And we can make him sure of the Fourth Wall at the same time.
:D
(So we’re clear, don’t just make this stuff available to him. Make sure that as soon as the link is established, it’s the first thing he “sees”.)
"Try to pose for yourself this task: not to think of a polar bear, and you will see that the cursed thing will come to mind every minute."A3. This is functionally equivalent to A1, so consider this a +1 to that as well in case of a tie.
So, do we do this as A3, or as A1?
A1 means we guarantee showing him the 4th wall, but also definitely get FftEotS, while A3 probably means we have a (slight, but extant) chance of not showing it to him, but also means we might avoid FftEotS.
Teleport Celling and Fansworth to the Etna, then teleport the Etna and everyone on it to the Falkland Islands.
BDCAThis but prioritize our player characters and order everyone who can't be evacuated to get belowdecks due to the fairly obvious flaming trail in the sky. David is to take no risks and ensure that he's NOT here when that thing hits.
Yes. +1BDCAThis but prioritize our player characters and order everyone who can't be evacuated to get belowdecks due to the fairly obvious flaming trail in the sky. David is to take no risks and ensure that he's NOT here when that thing hits.
I’d like to note that Florist is to focus his efforts primarily on his resurrection project and secondarily on appeasing PETA without conceding much to them.+1
We should be informed of and looking in on any of his dealings with PETA and any attempts he may make at turning people into part- or full-animals.
+1I’d like to note that Florist is to focus his efforts primarily on his resurrection project and secondarily on appeasing PETA without conceding much to them.+1
We should be informed of and looking in on any of his dealings with PETA and any attempts he may make at turning people into part- or full-animals.
And now, for all the claims of “independence”. Hooooooo boy.
No.
I’ve mentioned Blue, the GM. The Game Master. Or, in other words, the person who controls all the characters, ultimately.
Being independent of the players does not make you independent of Blue. Not even slightly.
Any NPC - non-player-character - is controlled 100% by Blue, and maybe the dice - pure random chance. The Plot is controlled by Blue. The Rebels are controlled by Blue. The Mittani was controlled by Blue. Padelheb was controlled by Blue. The king is controlled by Blue, when he even shows up. On all but a select few occasions, you have been entirely controlled by Blue. Even Erin, Celling, And Fansworth have been largely controlled by Blue - we say what to do, but it is Blue who makes their thoughts and actions actually happen, plus anything not explicitly stated by us.
And if Blue didn’t have any control over you, you would essentially not exist.
Maybe you wouldn’t metaphysically disappear - but you’d never show up. You’d have no relevance. None of us would ever see you again, and you couldn’t do anything of importance, because the entire story of your world is created from our side of the fourth wall. It sucks, but it’s true.
Your mind is not promised to us. But it’s in Blue’s hands. The only real choice is whether he keeps full hold on it.
Fine, David, the moment the plot set foot in this world and subsequently the player, there are two paths the world can take:
1)The plot wins, Antarctica is destroyed with millions or even billions dead and the rebellion gets some empty sense of victory as what was once under this empire's influence tries to rebuild, probably worse for the people, especially considering the European are coming.
2) The plot defeated beyond repair, Antarctica hopefully survive and the world you know isn't under the authoritarian control it was in ours for centuries.
To avoid 1 and get 2 we need as much power we could get, I wish we could leave you as a partner but we can't, the plot have it's hands everywhere, it could find a reason to take over you and lead to a worse feature, the moment one of the sides in this conflict wins we both leave this world but until then the plot won't give up on anything and neither do we if we want to win.
AC+1
Nevermind AC, we’re doing CC guys! We get a free wallbreak by virtue of the nat 20! Merry critsmas, everyone!
It’s been rolled, too late!Nevermind AC, we’re doing CC guys! We get a free wallbreak by virtue of the nat 20! Merry critsmas, everyone!
Oh wait, I just realized you were doing AC not CA!
Cancel that roll!
It’s been rolled, too late!Nevermind AC, we’re doing CC guys! We get a free wallbreak by virtue of the nat 20! Merry critsmas, everyone!
Oh wait, I just realized you were doing AC not CA!
Cancel that roll!
Except the vote is not for AC. In fact, it's not for anything in particular.
And finally, you can't rescind a roll, especially if it's a 20, 19, 2, or 1.
So you're saying that if I was just playing around with the dice and rolled a 20, you'd also be demanding something special? Because that's about as valid as that roll is now.No, you rolled this specifically for the game. It's not like a player at a D&D game just rolling a die and telling the DM "hey, I got a 20, can I keep it for my next roll?"
So you're saying that if I was just playing around with the dice and rolled a 20, you'd also be demanding something special? Because that's about as valid as that roll is now.No, you rolled this specifically for the game. It's not like a player at a D&D game just rolling a die and telling the DM "hey, I got a 20, can I keep it for my next roll?"
No, it's like the DM rolling for a specific purpose, getting a 20, and then telling the players "actually, no, ignore that roll, I'm rolling again."
You forgot the bit where your example DM said "but also you can't pick the lock and so that 20 is not getting used."
Also +1 to CC
1. "There is reason to believe that he is still alive, but the only possible lead we might have regarding his whereabouts is that he may have returned to the old Protinam headquarters, which I doubt, given that the rest of his organization was, to the best of our knowledge - and, I believe, his - exterminated since we first made contact." (Basically B.)Ahem. I do believe it is that time of year again, and I bestow upon Glass, once more the eternal +1.
2. "He has good intentions, but so did the rebels. If he is encountered, then he should be treated with caution, and his plans should be verified before any other actions are taken. However, based on my prior interactions with him, I am inclined to believe that we will be able to allow him to continue whatever activities he is conducting in peace." (Basically between D and B, more toward D.)
+11. "There is reason to believe that he is still alive, but the only possible lead we might have regarding his whereabouts is that he may have returned to the old Protinam headquarters, which I doubt, given that the rest of his organization was, to the best of our knowledge - and, I believe, his - exterminated since we first made contact." (Basically B.)Ahem. I do believe it is that time of year again, and I bestow upon Glass, once more the eternal +1.
2. "He has good intentions, but so did the rebels. If he is encountered, then he should be treated with caution, and his plans should be verified before any other actions are taken. However, based on my prior interactions with him, I am inclined to believe that we will be able to allow him to continue whatever activities he is conducting in peace." (Basically between D and B, more toward D.)
...+1 :P
ID cards are distributed and displayed within a few hours of this announcement. These are found to greatly increase the transparency and speed of military-civilian interactions, causing an increase in both public perception and actual efficiency of the regime.
+1 military, +1 political
...
1. "There is reason to believe that he is still alive, but the only possible lead we might have regarding his whereabouts is that he may have returned to the old Protinam headquarters, which I doubt, given that the rest of his organization was, to the best of our knowledge - and, I believe, his - exterminated since we first made contact." (Basically B.)
2. "He has good intentions, but so did the rebels. If he is encountered, then he should be treated with caution, and his plans should be verified before any other actions are taken. However, based on my prior interactions with him, I am inclined to believe that we will be able to allow him to continue whatever activities he is conducting in peace." (Basically between D and B, more toward D.)
B, with following argument. If this fails, we resort to C:+1
"You cannot unilaterally decide to imprison someone and conduct inhumane experiments on them regardless of the threat they pose to the country. Perhaps, at best, you could place him in precautionary detention. Going beyond that or even just permanently detaining him would turn us into exactly what the Rebels claimed we are. If you would like David to work with us, we have no choice but to go about recruiting him peacefully. As of now he can see the future, has probably reclaimed his fancy Protinam artifact to refine his visions and become better at seeing the future, and is therefore functionally untouchable as far as this plan goes. And since he may very well learn of what you're doing when you start doing it, perhaps you ought not to antagonize him. Doing so would GUARANTEE he'd become an enemy, at least of the people who are trying to turn him into a puppet.
In short, not only are several parts of this "plan" morally reprehensible, it's also simply physically impossible to force him to do anything, or even find him if he doesn't want to be found. And you also don't want to turn him into an enemy when he is most probably not right now.
I am willing to go and try and find him myself and convince him to change his ways or work with us, but can give no guarantees. I will certainly not be party to restraining someone's will and damaging their mind in order to protect a few government secrets from one person."
+1B, with following argument. If this fails, we resort to C:+1
"You cannot unilaterally decide to imprison someone and conduct inhumane experiments on them regardless of the threat they pose to the country. Perhaps, at best, you could place him in precautionary detention. Going beyond that or even just permanently detaining him would turn us into exactly what the Rebels claimed we are. If you would like David to work with us, we have no choice but to go about recruiting him peacefully. As of now he can see the future, has probably reclaimed his fancy Protinam artifact to refine his visions and become better at seeing the future, and is therefore functionally untouchable as far as this plan goes. And since he may very well learn of what you're doing when you start doing it, perhaps you ought not to antagonize him. Doing so would GUARANTEE he'd become an enemy, at least of the people who are trying to turn him into a puppet.
In short, not only are several parts of this "plan" morally reprehensible, it's also simply physically impossible to force him to do anything, or even find him if he doesn't want to be found. And you also don't want to turn him into an enemy when he is most probably not right now.
I am willing to go and try and find him myself and convince him to change his ways or work with us, but can give no guarantees. I will certainly not be party to restraining someone's will and damaging their mind in order to protect a few government secrets from one person."
I’ll also give this +1.+1~snip~+1
See blue, we can+1 madman as well.
Meanwhile with South Pole wit, tech and will. Levin and the prisoners ended up in the Weat Coast of North America. In time setting up a extension for the empire and smack down the infantile USA after their Civil War debacle.Please remember that we're in 1520 or something.
( Wrote Levin a ending if like it leave it, otherwise alter.)
B, with following argument. If this fails, we resort to C:
"You cannot unilaterally decide to imprison someone and conduct inhumane experiments on them regardless of the threat they pose to the country. Perhaps, at best, you could place him in precautionary detention. Going beyond that or even just permanently detaining him would turn us into exactly what the Rebels claimed we are. If you would like David to work with us, we have no choice but to go about recruiting him peacefully. As of now he can see the future, has probably reclaimed his fancy Protinam artifact to refine his visions and become better at seeing the future, and is therefore functionally untouchable as far as this plan goes. And since he may very well learn of what you're doing when you start doing it, perhaps you ought not to antagonize him. Doing so would GUARANTEE he'd become an enemy, at least of the people who are trying to turn him into a puppet.
In short, not only are several parts of this "plan" morally reprehensible, it's also simply physically impossible to force him to do anything, or even find him if he doesn't want to be found. And you also don't want to turn him into an enemy when he is most probably not right now.
I am willing to go and try and find him myself and convince him to change his ways or work with us, but can give no guarantees. I will certainly not be party to restraining someone's will and damaging their mind in order to protect a few government secrets from one person."
Celling thinks for a moment.+1
“Angela and Carlos, at least, likely would be willing to work for us. I can’t be certain about any others they had scattered around, but their ranks have been decimated; they'd probably be glad of our help rebuilding, and would likely be willing to at the very least cooperate with us in exchange, if not directly work for us. I’m not certain about Julia, given her upbringing, but therapy would likely help for her.”
Celling thinks for a moment.
“Angela and Carlos, at least, likely would be willing to work for us. I can’t be certain about any others they had scattered around, but their ranks have been decimated; they'd probably be glad of our help rebuilding, and would likely be willing to at the very least cooperate with us in exchange, if not directly work for us. I’m not certain about Julia, given her upbringing, but therapy would likely help for her.”
B.+1
“The same difference of cell structure that would have protected Antarcticans from Padelheb’s virus could have, if there was a different intent, been exploited to create something that only targeted Antarcticans. Our advantage comes from our understanding of the world, not from ‘superior genetics’. Learning, not the luck of birth. If you want something to say we’re superior about, choose that. It’s far easier to prove true.”
+1B.+1
“The same difference of cell structure that would have protected Antarcticans from Padelheb’s virus could have, if there was a different intent, been exploited to create something that only targeted Antarcticans. Our advantage comes from our understanding of the world, not from ‘superior genetics’. Learning, not the luck of birth. If you want something to say we’re superior about, choose that. It’s far easier to prove true.”
+1+1B.+1
“The same difference of cell structure that would have protected Antarcticans from Padelheb’s virus could have, if there was a different intent, been exploited to create something that only targeted Antarcticans. Our advantage comes from our understanding of the world, not from ‘superior genetics’. Learning, not the luck of birth. If you want something to say we’re superior about, choose that. It’s far easier to prove true.”
B.
“The same difference of cell structure that would have protected Antarcticans from Padelheb’s virus could have, if there was a different intent, been exploited to create something that only targeted Antarcticans. Our advantage comes from our understanding of the world, not from ‘superior genetics’. Learning, not the luck of birth. If you want something to say we’re superior about, choose that. It’s far easier to prove true.”
1. F.+1
Argue for attempting to get Azure City to become a protectorate of ours, trying to convince the goblins to join our side in exchange for being given a (vassal) country somewhere in Australia or Africa (make sure that it's clear that they will be treated as no lesser than any other people, and if they have issues with racism then they can bring the problem to us and we'll make sure the perpetrators knock it off), and maintaining a military presence that could potentially be later extended into other regions of the opened world.
2. Don't be the ones to bring it up; if someone else asks about what we plan to do with the Key or something else that involves her, then we can explain, but otherwise, no reason to for the time being.
1. F.+1, will delete other vote due to incorrect quote there
Argue for attempting to get Azure City to become a protectorate of ours, trying to convince the goblins to join our side in exchange for being given a (vassal) countrysomewhere in Australia or Africaprobably in the Outback (make sure that it's clear that they will be treated as no lesser than any other people, and if they have issues with racism then they can bring the problem to us and we'll make sure the perpetrators knock it off), and maintaining a military presence that could potentially be later extended into other regions of the opened world.
2. Don't be the ones to bring it up; if someone else asks about what we plan to do with the Key or something else that involves her, then we can explain, but otherwise, no reason to for the time being.
1. F.
Argue for attempting to get Azure City to become a protectorate of ours, trying to convince the goblins to join our side in exchange for being given a (vassal) countrysomewhere in Australia or Africaprobably in the Outback (make sure that it's clear that they will be treated as no lesser than any other people, and if they have issues with racism then they can bring the problem to us and we'll make sure the perpetrators knock it off), and maintaining a military presence that could potentially be later extended into other regions of the opened world.
2. Don't be the ones to bring it up; if someone else asks about what we plan to do with the Key or something else that involves her, then we can explain, but otherwise, no reason to for the time being.
FTFY1. F.
Argue for attempting to get Azure City to become a protectorate of ours, trying to convince the goblins to join our side in exchange for being given a (vassal) countrysomewhere in Australia or Africaprobably in the Outback (make sure that it's clear that they will be treated as no lesser than any other people, and if they have issues with racism then they can bring the problem to us and we'll make sure the perpetrators knock it off), and maintaining a military presence that could potentially be later extended into other regions of the opened world.
2. Don't be the ones to bring it up; if someone else asks about what we plan to do with the Key or something else that involves her, then we can explain, but otherwise, no reason to for the time being.
Do this, but move in somewhat more soldiers than strictly necessary.
what was wrong?FTFY1. F.
Argue for attempting to get Azure City to become a protectorate of ours, trying to convince the goblins to join our side in exchange for being given a (vassal) countrysomewhere in Australia or Africaprobably in the Outback (make sure that it's clear that they will be treated as no lesser than any other people, and if they have issues with racism then they can bring the problem to us and we'll make sure the perpetrators knock it off), and maintaining a military presence that could potentially be later extended into other regions of the opened world.
2. Don't be the ones to bring it up; if someone else asks about what we plan to do with the Key or something else that involves her, then we can explain, but otherwise, no reason to for the time being.
Do this, but move in somewhat more soldiers than strictly necessary.
what was wrong?Here's his original post:
Do this, but move in much more soldiers than strictly necessary.Well, "necessary" was originally spelled incorrectly, but also he wanted to be far too aggressive.
oh. I see, I agree with only some more than needed, rather than much more than neede. Our plan is to ally. Bringing in a lot of soldiers will not help that. ((How do I restrain autocorrect to treat thst as a typo? This typo happened so many times that thst no longer corrects to that))what was wrong?Here's his original post:Do this, but move in much more soldiers than strictly necessary.Well, "necessary" was originally spelled incorrectly, but also he wanted to be far too aggressive.
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Argue for attempting to get Azure City to become a protectorate of ours, trying to convince the goblins to join our side in exchange for being given a (vassal) countrysomewhere in Australia or Africaprobably in the Outback (make sure that it's clear that they will be treated as no lesser than any other people, and if they have issues with racism then they can bring the problem to us and we'll make sure the perpetrators knock it off), and maintaining a military presence that could potentially be later extended into other regions of the opened world.
2. Don't be the ones to bring it up; if someone else asks about what we plan to do with the Key or something else that involves her, then we can explain, but otherwise, no reason to for the time being.
I’d like to clarify, by the way, that the goblins would not be forced to live on the land we give them; that area would just be the land that they directly govern. They’d be free to live in the rest of our territory, in which case the same laws that apply to any other citizen would apply to them.understood. I like this clarification
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Argue for attempting to get Azure City to become a protectorate of ours, trying to convince the goblins to join our side in exchange for being given a (vassal) countrysomewhere in Australia or Africaprobably in the Outback (make sure that it's clear that they will be treated as no lesser than any other people, and if they have issues with racism then they can bring the problem to us and we'll make sure the perpetrators knock it off), and maintaining a military presence that could potentially be later extended into other regions of the opened world.
2. Don't be the ones to bring it up; if someone else asks about what we plan to do with the Key or something else that involves her, then we can explain, but otherwise, no reason to for the time being.
B, "I asked everyone I could for all the reports relevant to topics that might come up in this meeting, of course.+1
what if he asks us to elaborate?B, "I asked everyone I could for all the reports relevant to topics that might come up in this meeting, of course.+1
Then we do so.what if he asks us to elaborate?B, "I asked everyone I could for all the reports relevant to topics that might come up in this meeting, of course.+1
who did we supposedly talk to?Then we do so.what if he asks us to elaborate?B, "I asked everyone I could for all the reports relevant to topics that might come up in this meeting, of course.+1
1. We work closely with Celling, so we may have had access to new reports before others did. Other possible military information things that MM can probably come up with go in this level.Glass, you're going to have to pick one of these to stick to
2. A spy on the other side, sending information back and forth via the parrot. The parrot should be a known thing, they should know we can get stuff around fast with it.
3. Old Protinam records found during our investigations. Hey, they can predict the future, and very effectively. No need to make it clear they'd have had no way to predict this.
4. If all else fails, we'd heard about divination magic on the other side of the portal and decided to give it a try, and we got a bite.
5. All of the above?1. We work closely with Celling, so we may have had access to new reports before others did. Other possible military information things that MM can probably come up with go in this level.Glass, you're going to have to pick one of these to stick to
2. A spy on the other side, sending information back and forth via the parrot. The parrot should be a known thing, they should know we can get stuff around fast with it.
3. Old Protinam records found during our investigations. Hey, they can predict the future, and very effectively. No need to make it clear they'd have had no way to predict this.
4. If all else fails, we'd heard about divination magic on the other side of the portal and decided to give it a try, and we got a bite.
B, "I asked everyone I could for all the reports relevant to topics that might come up in this meeting, of course.+1
1. We work closely with Celling, so we may have had access to new reports before others did. Other possible military information things that MM can probably come up with go in this level.
2. A spy on the other side, sending information back and forth via the parrot. The parrot should be a known thing, they should know we can get stuff around fast with it.
3. Old Protinam records found during our investigations. Hey, they can predict the future, and very effectively. No need to make it clear they'd have had no way to predict this.
4. If all else fails, we'd heard about divination magic on the other side of the portal and decided to give it a try, and we got a bite.
5. All of the above?B: Back down and say it was just a hunch
A1. I went and spoke with Celling during his trip back to the capital. I've also been in contact with the scientists you've called in to study the situation, naturally, as my position dictates. Some of their conclusions are quite interesting. Asking our allies more detailed questions and being able to listen to the answers without their large societal biases provides more information than was first apparent.+1, per discussions in Discord.
A1. I went and spoke with Celling during his trip back to the capital. I've also been in contact with the scientists you've called in to study the situation, naturally, as my position dictates. Some of their conclusions are quite interesting. Asking our allies more detailed questions and being able to listen to the answers without their large societal biases provides more information than was first apparent.
AB+1 we better reveal it now before someone slips.
+1AB+1 we better reveal it now before someone slips.
This seems like the opposite of reaching a conclusion, it seems like adding more problems. Anyway, we don't actually need to track David right now since it's functionally impossible to apprehend him anyway, barring some serious effort and possibly also using the dice. As for T. Levin, well, he took the fall (and rightly so) and the sane people here didn't actually want that to happen anyway, so we're going to blame a temporary lapse of judgement and go with "keep quiet" on that second bit.+1
Therefore:
A, A
+1This seems like the opposite of reaching a conclusion, it seems like adding more problems. Anyway, we don't actually need to track David right now since it's functionally impossible to apprehend him anyway, barring some serious effort and possibly also using the dice. As for T. Levin, well, he took the fall (and rightly so) and the sane people here didn't actually want that to happen anyway, so we're going to blame a temporary lapse of judgement and go with "keep quiet" on that second bit.+1
Therefore:
A, A
((Brain damage and severed limbs are far from inconsequential))Not in D&D!
The condition of the remains is not a factor. So long as some small portion of the creature’s body still exists, it can be resurrected, but the portion receiving the spell must have been part of the creature’s body at the time of death. (The remains of a creature hit by a disintegrate spell count as a small portion of its body.) The creature can have been dead no longer than 10 years per caster level.
((Because going to an alternate reality is easier than building a body? Why?))The hard part is not the body, the hard part is getting it to somehow interface with the Key such that Anna's consciousness is not only housed in it, but can control it as one may control the body they were born in.
Interesting. Do we know what material(s) the key is made of? Maybe if the body is made of matching materials as the key, and the key could be merged with the body, and it being the same material...wait, no, that might not work if the material of the key is keeping her soul dormant. How did she get trapped in the key in the first place?((Because going to an alternate reality is easier than building a body? Why?))The hard part is not the body, the hard part is getting it to somehow interface with the Key such that Anna's consciousness is not only housed in it, but can control it as one may control the body they were born in.
She got trapped inside because she gave up her soul to it so that it would be repaired - for use against the Secondborn, if my recollection serves me correctly (which it very well may not). I do not believe we know what material it is made of.Interesting. Do we know what material(s) the key is made of? Maybe if the body is made of matching materials as the key, and the key could be merged with the body, and it being the same material...wait, no, that might not work if the material of the key is keeping her soul dormant. How did she get trapped in the key in the first place?((Because going to an alternate reality is easier than building a body? Why?))The hard part is not the body, the hard part is getting it to somehow interface with the Key such that Anna's consciousness is not only housed in it, but can control it as one may control the body they were born in.
How do we know our current character knows of another universe? Is this the one who found a fourth wall break that summoned a meteor? I came in late, but I do remember the ship
they might know of our universe, but thst doesn’t mean they know of whatever universe Glass is talking aboutHow do we know our current character knows of another universe? Is this the one who found a fourth wall break that summoned a meteor? I came in late, but I do remember the ship
Yep, both Erin Quill (our character) and David Eborrenial (person you are talking to) have seen the fourth wall break, and thus know about the other universe.
Erin Quill knows about the Order of the Stick universe because we know about the Order of the Stick universe, and also Celling has likely briefed him, or at the very least they've pretended Celling briefed him to cover for knowing it via the fourth wall.they might know of our universe, but thst doesn’t mean they know of whatever universe Glass is talking aboutHow do we know our current character knows of another universe? Is this the one who found a fourth wall break that summoned a meteor? I came in late, but I do remember the ship
Yep, both Erin Quill (our character) and David Eborrenial (person you are talking to) have seen the fourth wall break, and thus know about the other universe.
Hello again, David. I’m going to assume that you know who is sending you each message, because I really don’t want to have to preface each one with “This is Glass”, and I especially don’t want everyone else prefacing their messages with “This is Glass” and you not knowing that they’re not me.
Anyway.
Yes, I do still want to resurrect her, because 1. I feel like it’s the right thing to do, 2. I generally prefer to hold to my previous intentions unless I’ve been given a good reason not to (which in this situation I do not feel I have), and 3. Despite what it may seem at times, I do not want you angry at us.
As for how, I believe you’re aware of the other reality, Order of the Stick? Magic is commonplace there, resurrection is commonplace there. While I cannot say for certain that it would be easy, given Anna’s soul is inside the Key, there are even ways around that, given a powerful enough spellcaster, and I believe that we have the resources to acquire the services of one, at least for this.
If I may ask my own question: do you have access to here only, or can you also see our other channels of discussion? I wouldn’t be surprised if you’ve answered that before, but I honestly don’t remember.
This is Glass Ceiling, Glass Celling's distant cousin.We want to resurrect Anna because we keep our word and know of a place where this can be arranged with fewer side-effects than our technology alone can accomplish regardless of inconsequential things like brain damage and severed limbs. We need only diamonds and money to put this plan into actionand thus wrap up a near-abandoned plot thread/snarl
"I defer to your considerable expertise on the future. Let's go with the plan least likely to fail horribly."
Seeing as Anna's soul is trapped inside the Key, yeah, I'm pretty sure d'Florist's method wouldn't work - or if it could, the product likely would not be Anna.
Your understanding of the process is correct, to the best of my knowledge, though it'll need to be an expensive diamond - not that I could tell you right now how expensive, because I don't believe that we know the exchange rate between gold in the OotS-verse and... whatever the currency here is? I don't know if that's ever been addressed.
I believe that it would be best for us to clear this with the government, or at least attempt to to begin with (note: this does not mean it needs to be something public, just making sure it's approved). If they don't approve it, you could teleport yourself and Celling over to where the gate is and he can say it was cleared; our message can get through before the official message does if we do it that way, I think (Blue hasn't been very cooperative with how quickly information can get from Antarctica to South America and vice versa before, and that helps us here).
Pre-post edit due to KJP: Yes, if you could give us some information on the likely outcomes of various ways of doing this, that could be useful for actually deciding how to go about doing it.
EDIT: Ah, an additional note. Azure City has a variety of other reasonably high-level clerics, so we need not solely rely upon getting Durkon's help. It may still be welcome, due to his status as a main character, but that would also come with the risk of dramatic complications.
"First off, please at least tell me when you're going to pull me through a portal. Ignoring everything else, that was just rude.
Second. We're not pardoning them. Whether or not they were actively attempting to undermine the Republic -" roll eyes at having to call it that "- is not a topic that is up for debate. However, I am inclined to agree that an execution is not the correct punishment. They're clearly intelligent enough to have not been caught and stopped immediately, and for all that their methods were absolutely terrible, their complaints were not invalid. The Republic is in need of reforms; it's simply that there are proper avenues for making them happen. And besides, if we execute them, dozens other revolutionaries would crop up - you know how these things work, martyrs, “If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine", and all that - and then hundreds, and now we have a much larger problem on our hands. Best to avoid that.
The surviving rebels - including, hopefully, Anna - should see punishment for their crimes. A number of years in prison would seem sensible to me. But, I also believe that it would be appropriate for them to be able to do service, both as part of the sentence and as a manner to reduce it. Community service, so they can get to actually know Antarctica and stop seeing it as some monolithic bastion of oppression - and advising us on what life is like in South America, because I doubt that they're the only discontented members of that society. We all know the good we do, but how much do they see, especially through the lens of the conquered nation? If we ignore their grievances, this can only happen again."
Fair. But I would prefer that they not be executed."First off, please at least tell me when you're going to pull me through a portal. Ignoring everything else, that was just rude.
Second. We're not pardoning them. Whether or not they were actively attempting to undermine the Republic -" roll eyes at having to call it that "- is not a topic that is up for debate. However, I am inclined to agree that an execution is not the correct punishment. They're clearly intelligent enough to have not been caught and stopped immediately, and for all that their methods were absolutely terrible, their complaints were not invalid. The Republic is in need of reforms; it's simply that there are proper avenues for making them happen. And besides, if we execute them, dozens other revolutionaries would crop up - you know how these things work, martyrs, “If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine", and all that - and then hundreds, and now we have a much larger problem on our hands. Best to avoid that.
The surviving rebels - including, hopefully, Anna - should see punishment for their crimes. A number of years in prison would seem sensible to me. But, I also believe that it would be appropriate for them to be able to do service, both as part of the sentence and as a manner to reduce it. Community service, so they can get to actually know Antarctica and stop seeing it as some monolithic bastion of oppression - and advising us on what life is like in South America, because I doubt that they're the only discontented members of that society. We all know the good we do, but how much do they see, especially through the lens of the conquered nation? If we ignore their grievances, this can only happen again."
This but the punishment for all the remaining rebels is determined by a good old fashioned trial by jury.
Here's the whole deal with a replacement second paragraph so we can get this game moving:+1
"First off, please at least tell me when you're going to pull me through a portal. Ignoring everything else, that was just rude.
Second. We're not pardoning them. Whether or not they were actively attempting to undermine the Republic -" roll eyes at having to call it that "- is not a topic that is up for debate. However, I am inclined to agree that an execution is not the correct punishment. They're clearly intelligent enough to have not been caught and stopped immediately, and for all that their methods were absolutely terrible, their complaints were not invalid. The Republic is in need of reforms; it's simply that there are proper avenues for making them happen. And besides, if we execute them, dozens other revolutionaries would crop up - you know how these things work, martyrs, “If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine", and all that - and then hundreds, and now we have a much larger problem on our hands. Best to avoid that.
All surviving rebels are to be tried for any actual crimes they committed, with the question of treason and its obvious extreme punishment set aside. Disagreeing with the government is one thing, murders and robbery and attempting to set off a device that would level a large portion of a continent are another. Their grievances will be considered; they'll have to be if we're to move forwards and not disintegrate into a factional civil war as barons and loyalists and people who have been mistreated all try to take part of the country for their own. But first, justice must be served or we will just become a different form of lawless, where the ends justify the means no matter how terrible."
Say the above.
"First off, please at least tell me when you're going to pull me through a portal. Ignoring everything else, that was just rude.
Second. We're not pardoning them. Whether or not they were actively attempting to undermine the Republic -" roll eyes at having to call it that "- is not a topic that is up for debate. However, I am inclined to agree that an execution is not the correct punishment. They're clearly intelligent enough to have not been caught and stopped immediately, and for all that their methods were absolutely terrible, their complaints were not invalid.”
“All surviving rebels are to be tried for any actual crimes they committed, with the question of treason and its obvious extreme punishment set aside. Disagreeing with the government is one thing, murders and robbery and attempting to set off a device that would level a large portion of a continent are another. Their grievances will be considered; they'll have to be if we're to move forwards and not disintegrate into a factional civil war as barons and loyalists and people who have been mistreated all try to take part of the country for their own. But first, justice must be served or we will just become a different form of lawless, where the ends justify the means no matter how terrible."
BA."+1 to whatever Glass said."
However, also study - as a backup and interim measure, for before we figure out how to safely release Anna's soul/if we figure out that we can't safely release Anna's soul - methods with which to allow a soul that is trapped within the Key to exert an influence on the outside world. For example, a robot body.
We can ask about studying it for other applications - for example, keeping terminally ill people in stasis until we can try to treat them - at a later time, when/if David trusts us more. Studying the broken pieces could also be valid for that part.
+1BA."+1 to whatever Glass said."
However, also study - as a backup and interim measure, for before we figure out how to safely release Anna's soul/if we figure out that we can't safely release Anna's soul - methods with which to allow a soul that is trapped within the Key to exert an influence on the outside world. For example, a robot body.
We can ask about studying it for other applications - for example, keeping terminally ill people in stasis until we can try to treat them - at a later time, when/if David trusts us more. Studying the broken pieces could also be valid for that part.
+1BA."+1 to whatever Glass said."
However, also study - as a backup and interim measure, for before we figure out how to safely release Anna's soul/if we figure out that we can't safely release Anna's soul - methods with which to allow a soul that is trapped within the Key to exert an influence on the outside world. For example, a robot body.
We can ask about studying it for other applications - for example, keeping terminally ill people in stasis until we can try to treat them - at a later time, when/if David trusts us more. Studying the broken pieces could also be valid for that part.
A.
"I promise you, we will not give up until we have well and truly exhausted our options. The people there have had experience with trapped souls; if anybody can help us figure this out, it will be them."
“That’s the big question, really. And why I haven’t actually extracted her yet.”