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BFEL has into Disgaea.

Not only is this some theoretical hyper-cocaine equivalent for my min/maxing munchkin mind, but it also means I now know where a couple of Gunner and Owlga's avatars are from. Which is always fun. Also Flonne is best girl.

I knew it wasn't directed at me, I was just saying to keep it civil, and the 'not dismissing you' bit was referring to the 'BFEL, chill out would you?' bit.

Yeah, I'm all for civil discussion of an issue. And tbh my whole stance this election is less "Trump is the best thing EVAR" and more "lets wait and see, he's probably not as bad as everyone seems to have convinced themselves".

But yeah, when someone says I condone rape the gloves come off.

Quote from: BFEL on January 14, 2017, 10:00:52 pm

Quote from: PTTG?? on January 14, 2017, 09:49:18 pm

BFEL, I really wish you cared one tenth as much about the president-elect's repeated and public bragging about sexual assault, tax fraud, and contract violations as you do about the failed opposition candidate's now-cleared legal issues.

And I really wish people like you would actually listen to what he said instead of jumping on the Trump bashing bandwagon.

By the "sexual assault" I assume you mean the grab them by the pussy comment? Yeah, the comment was that women LET him do that. I.E. consensually.
He wasn't just running around groping people, he was saying that women threw themselves at him cuz of his money.

By "tax fraud" do you mean the thing about him using the "loophole" to get money back from losses? The thing that every other politician in the fucking US uses? The thing HILLARY uses? The thing *I* use cuz gas is goddamn expensive when driving is part of your job?

As for contract violations I'm not aware of any specific instances, so...I guess its your move there?

Ok, so BFEL feels that it's not rape if the woman ever, even briefly, stops struggling. Good to know. Also nice to know that BFEL hasn't paid taxes in a decade.

And yeah, failing to pay someone who worked for you is a violation of the employment contract.

Oh, and there's also Trump's failure to turn over his tax returns, his shallow lies about being "audited" somehow preventing him from turning over said tax returns, indeed, his pathological lies and lies about his lies, even about things he said earlier in the same debate, his clear and continuing connections to Russian intelligence, his catastrophic failure to resolve his conflicts of interest, his manifestly unwise choices of cabinet members, his utter disregard for his intelligence briefings, his naked nepotism, and his violent opposition to science in fields as diverse as climatology and vaccination.

But no, let's do go on and beat a dead horse about god-damned Hillary Clinton. But for the record, let's please keep in mind that bashing Hillary does nothing to turn Trump into a decent human being, let alone a competent politician.

How exactly does "person consents and lets another person grope them" turn into "BRIEFLY STOPPED STUGGLING"? Do you just automatically assume no woman ever wants to have sexual contact with anyone ever? He never said "I was forcing myself on her and then she stopped struggling" (though, to be fair in the first part he did note that she initially rejected him, BUT THEN ON A SEPERATE OCCASSION was open to his advances, so maybe you got confused?)

And sure, using a system put in place by the government to get repaid for losses my job incurs is EXACTLY the same as not paying any taxes ever. 100% equivalent.

While I don't have solid info on the non-payments he made, what I've heard is that the reason he refused to pay the people he did was because they did shoddy, inexcusable "work" that was in and of itself a violation of the contract. Perhaps I'm wrong or misinformed on this point, but that's what I've heard on it.

Candidates aren't obligated to show their tax returns. And I seem to remember it taking a VERY long time for Hillary to release hers. Long enough to doctor them maybe?

"Clear and continuing connections to Russian Intelligence"? Oh you mean "an unnamed source"? I.E. "the shit we pulled out of our assholes"?

But sure, lets go beating a dead horse and keep bashing Trump for things he didn't say, things he didn't do, and things that you've been outright lied to about.
But for the record, keep in mind that bashing him doesn't change the fact that

YOU

FUCKING

LOST

or the fact that you're stuck with him.

BFEL, I really wish you cared one tenth as much about the president-elect's repeated and public bragging about sexual assault, tax fraud, and contract violations as you do about the failed opposition candidate's now-cleared legal issues.

And I really wish people like you would actually listen to what he said instead of jumping on the Trump bashing bandwagon.

By the "sexual assault" I assume you mean the grab them by the pussy comment? Yeah, the comment was that women LET him do that. I.E. consensually.
He wasn't just running around groping people, he was saying that women threw themselves at him cuz of his money.

By "tax fraud" do you mean the thing about him using the "loophole" to get money back from losses? The thing that every other politician in the fucking US uses? The thing HILLARY uses? The thing *I* use cuz gas is goddamn expensive when driving is part of your job?

As for contract violations I'm not aware of any specific instances, so...I guess its your move there?

They're both terrible, just in different ways.

We really shouldn't be joking about assassinating anybody, as much as we hate Trump

I don't hate Trump. And I'm not joking about being worried about assassination attempts. Its a thing I seriously fear might happen.

Also, taking bets on whether or not Obama ends up pardoning Hillary for the crimes she supposedly didn't commit before Trump takes office?

Are you trying imply that the Secret Service wants to assassinate Trump?

I'm implying that the democrats currently in power want to assassinate Trump.
And the peeps in the Secret Service right now are in THEIR pocket...

Quote from: redwallzyl on January 14, 2017, 07:05:22 pm

lol https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/business/media/cspan-russia-today.html

I saw that earlier, it just seems really wierd in the context of the whole Russia stuff that's been going on. They do say that they think there was some router issue, but I don't know if anybody has conclusively said that it is a router issue and not that someone intentionally messed with it or anything.

Wouldn't surprise me if this was done on purpose by dems to make the "Russian hacking" story seem more likely.