Topic: What makes Spirits of Fire not kill themselves? (Read 1025 times)

Poco a Poco · « **on:** April 04, 2009, 08:09:59 pm »

I'm currently modding in a size 32 "Devil" creature, and want him to set everything he touches on fire, a la SoF.

However, due to me being new to modding and not thinking, I just set his FIXED_TEMP the same as a SoF's, and he just burned himself to death.
So, what exactly makes SoFs not kill themselves?
Is it the lack of skin?

varkarrus · « **Reply #1 on:** April 04, 2009, 08:13:49 pm »

I think they have some sort of fireproof tag.

Poco a Poco · « **Reply #2 on:** April 04, 2009, 08:23:53 pm »

Quote from: varkarrus on April 04, 2009, 08:13:49 pm

I think they have some sort of fireproof tag.

Nope, I put the [FIREIMMUNE] tag on my Devil, didn't work. It doesn't seem to be the fire generated but the pure heat of the creature that kills it.

Duke 2.0 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 04, 2009, 08:26:53 pm »

I believe it has something to do with skin or flesh. Dunno what it is though. I never delved into the raws that deeply before.

mission0 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 04, 2009, 08:39:44 pm »

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I think all the tags are what keep the SOF alive however if you want them to have a body of some sort with meat and all that then...

   [HEATDAM_POINT:12600]
   [IGNITE_POINT:13000]
   [MELTING_POINT:13500]

these may be needed but if you want the same temp as the SOF they will need to be amped up. As they are now they will resist magma but the SOF is quite a bit hotter than that.

Karadan · « **Reply #5 on:** April 04, 2009, 08:40:36 pm »

Could be the simple humanoid body I suppose.... Or one of those no skin or other tags... could create a few dozen all missing/adding one tag and see what does it.

Untelligent · « **Reply #6 on:** April 04, 2009, 10:29:32 pm »

Show us your creature raw, that should usually go in your first post when you have a modding-related problem.

Did you put STANDARD_FLESH on it? That defaults a few temperature-related tags and probably screwed it up.

Sir_Geo · « **Reply #7 on:** April 05, 2009, 05:58:43 am »

if you take a look at your creature_subterranean file and look up the bonedam and leatherdam values of fire imps you can find the tags that will keep them from spontaneously combusting. (you should also change the homeotherm and a few other tags that are found near the bottom of the entry of the imps)

EDIT: I think these are the tags
   [HOMEOTHERM:10095]
   [HEATDAM_POINT:13000]
   [IGNITE_POINT:13500]
   [LEATHER_HEATDAM_POINT:13000]
   [LEATHER_IGNITE_POINT:13500]
   [BONE_HEATDAM_POINT:14000]

Greiger · « **Reply #8 on:** April 05, 2009, 10:42:13 am »

You defiantly need to remove [STANDARD_FLESH] that overwrites custom temp values and sets them to a typical earthlike organic creature values. In my own experience you don't need to define custom bone temp values and such, it should use the creature values unless it dies, but they won't hurt.

[FIREIMMUNE] Does not actually make a creature immune to heat (except possibly firebreath, and possibly some non heat based damage being on fire causes), but it does make them able to path through magma which may be necessary. Though if you want them to pass through 7 deep magma underground you probably want the nobreathe tag as well.

Add the temperature values Sir_Geo supplied, and they should work fine.

Poco a Poco · « **Reply #9 on:** April 05, 2009, 11:46:32 am »

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that's the raw as it currently appears, with the FIXED_TEMP taken out. I currently have a few custom body part combinations on there. Its based on the Demon raw, obviously.

So if I add the temperature and heatdam tags, etc, it should fix the issues?

EDIT: I also just noticed my LIKES_FIGHTING tag is broken. Woopsy!
EDIT 2: New problem, it seems that the Devils are not being created at world gen like other megabeasts. Am I missing a tag?

Untelligent · « **Reply #10 on:** April 05, 2009, 01:52:25 pm »

Quote from: Poco a Poco on April 05, 2009, 11:46:32 am

So if I add the temperature and heatdam tags, etc, it should fix the issues?

EDIT: I also just noticed my LIKES_FIGHTING tag is broken. Woopsy!
EDIT 2: New problem, it seems that the Devils are not being created at world gen like other megabeasts. Am I missing a tag?

If you want it to act like a Spirit of Fire in that it burns whatever it touches and is immune to heat itself, just add FIXED_TEMP and remove STANDARD_FLESH. I don't think you don't need to worry about the other temperature tags if you do this, since SoF's don't have any of them last time I checked.

If I'm correctly in assuming that this is intended to be a megabeast and not a HFS, add [BIOME:ANY_LAND] in there and it should spawn.

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