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[GrayFox]

This is pretty much why I decided not to preorder. Preordering things without a release date just seems like a bad idea to me.

I think you get a discount though.
I don't know if that will end when beta comes out or when full release is out. But eventually it will be five dollars more.
The game will come out eventually. I hope soon! But who doesn't?

[Chattox]

As I feared, it would seem making a ton of pre-order money has made them a bit too relaxed. This news is going to piss off a lot of people, I think. I'm not too fussed myself, except for the potential loss of preorder money if a complete release never happens, but at the same time Rome 2 is out in less than 2 weeks so I don't have a single shit to give

[Maxono]

http://www.twitch.tv/multiplay
Starbound stream will start in 10 mins

[GrayFox]

except for the potential loss of preorder money if a complete release never happens

Not to single you out, but do people really think that's going to happen at this point? I know there have been many crowdfunding scams and failures, but that's almost impossible here. There's been too much work put into this game. They have a deal with Sony. We've seen too much. There's no way it won't come out... eventually!  I don't have time to watch the stream, but I'll be looking forward to watching the recording at some point! 

[Maldevious]

Maybe the speculation about the release is the game, and we've had it all along, right here in front of us.

[hemmingjay]

So I'm watching this stream and a voice is SCREAMING in the back of my mind the entire time and it's saying ........"THIS IS ALREADY BETA!!!!!!!!! THEY NEED TO TELL US WHY THEY AREN'T GIVING IT TO US!"

Seriously.

[Sean Mirrsen]

So I'm watching this stream and a voice is SCREAMING in the back of my mind the entire time and it's saying ........"THIS IS ALREADY BETA!!!!!!!!! THEY NEED TO TELL US WHY THEY AREN'T GIVING IT TO US!"

Seriously.

Have you seen the stream yesterday? Where the game crashed twice upon trying to jump to a different planet? That is why it's not yet in beta.

[hemmingjay]

Which is typical performance for a beta.

[Frumple]

Only twice, haha. AAA games have been released in worse condition

Seriously though, as HJ says, that's actually about right for a genuine beta state game. Some of the ones I've managed to get in with early on have honestly been less stable than that, starting off. Good beta player base (built-in via preorders), solid bug tracker, and rapid bugfixing/improvements and they'd have a wonderful environment for a good will inducing beta stage, imo, as well as the benefits of good ol' brute force bug checking.

[Skyrunner]

Were the animations smoother than the one I saw a week or so ago? o_O I was kinda disappointed by the mining animations. The pick seemed a bit weird somehow.

[Moogie]

Gods, I had to stop watching that stream. I can't stand those guys. The only one of them who had actually played the game before seemed to be the only one who had any sense or intelligence in him. The others just constantly fumbled around, destroyed what he was trying to do (in order to, you know, show us some more interesting gameplay than a bunch of hapless idiots fumbling around) and just uuugghhh PUT THE FURNACE BACK YOU F***ING IDIOT--

...Sorry. I just really, really don't like those dudes. I've never watched Yogscast before and now I'll never be tempted to in future. Super frustrating.

[KaelGotDwarves]

Posting because I want to follow and apparently haven't posted here yet?

I haven't wanted a game to be released and not suck so badly since before KSP was coming out.

[miauw62]

Which is typical performance for a beta.

Yeah, but I bet you can imagine the reaction from the community, especially when you take in account it's current composition.

"URR HURR HURR GAME HAS BUGS MONEY BACK!"

[quinnr]

Which is typical performance for a beta.

Yeah, but I bet you can imagine the reaction from the community, especially when you take in account it's current composition.

"URR HURR HURR GAME HAS BUGS MONEY BACK!"

I feel like the giant sales thing is a part of their hesitance to release the game. Since people feel like the game has a super-huge budget and all this money, they are going to have higher expectations. I don't blame them a ton for being hesitant to release anything under that sort of pressure, and can see them wanting it to be pretty much perfect before releasing the "beta". But yeah, definitely would like to hear something more than "Oh, some time this year."

[hemmingjay]

At this point, they can't do anything right. Everyone will criticize whatever they release because it has been hyped so much and for so long. Expectations, my own included, are out of control. People think they have a huge budget, but overall it's been less than 2 million dollars for what is a large indie team and tons of overhead for such a development. Honestly, I am worried that they have really hurt their own ability to make a lot of money from this. They are clearly artists and not business people, which might be good for us, but it won't end well for the team.

One thing that is clear though, this game is a career maker for everyone involved.

PS The mining animations are being adjusted. The animation and the size of the area mined are both being worked on. This game is a lot less about mining down than Terraria was though, so it's less of a priority.