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[neotemplar]

I already got 50% of a fire team already. I can add a volcanora and be missing only two slots.

Charizard y
Blaziken
Moltres

Need to make

Volcanora
Magmortar
Chandelure

The last three I can directly safari

[Urist Imiknorris]

Actually, screw Speed Boost Sharpedo. What I miss is Swampert.

[umiman]

I can give you a protean Froakie. Not sure why you want a sap sipper Azumarill considering Huge Power is so much better. I can guess you're trying to make a rain team, but huge power priority aqua jet is the signature move of Azumarill.

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If you guys are interested in Mega Kangaskhan, how it works is that it can use every attack twice, the second time hitting for 50% damage. Essentially every single attack of it is amped by 50%. So even an innocuous move like fake out is quite scary on it. After all, it has super priority and hits for about 60 damage instead of the measly 40. It's got a massive movepool too, with access to things like shadow claw, it's biggest STAB return, flamethrower, etc.

It's quite powerful for this reason. Flexible and reasonably tanky while doing great damage. However, it has a few drawbacks.

1. Every move attacks twice. This can be a benefit, but a smart enemy can juke you really hard by doing things like using King's Shield at that point. Then you just lowered your attack to -4 stages. There's also things like attacking someone with rocky helmet twice or anything else you can imagine.

2. It's not THAT tanky. Either you choose to bulk up or you choose to do damage. It can't specialize in both unlike Tyranitar or Snorlax or Aegislash. Most likely you will choose to get damage on it, leaving its defenses okay... but not amazing. Among the many things that can OHKO it are outrage, high jump kick, focus blast, etc. Furthermore, while 100 speed is great seeing as it outspeeds more than 80% of the population, it won't outspeed dedicated sweepers like Blaziken or Garchomp or Mewtwo or even guys like Lucario or Scizor. The list is quite extensive as anything faster than 100 with a fighting move or can do outrageous damage will blow up Mega Kanghaskan.

Essentially, if any of those guys are in the field, you can't use Mega Kangaskhan or it just feeds. At best you can get off one attack, then you will die.

3. Normal type makes for really shitty attackers. It's only STAB is normal type, and despite having great coverage, it doesn't have any way to supereffective anything. It does good damage over time, but the problem is it generally won't survive long enough to kill something. Furthermore, while it may not be weak to anything other than fighting, it still takes normal damage from everything except ghost.

So again, it's pretty easy to take it down. This isn't no Mewtwo X.

That being said, I still think it's really good. Just you have to be aware of its weaknesses. If someone has a fast fighting type, you need to remove that before you use it. All the other weaknesses can be worked around with given a little imagination and baiting.

[Urist Imiknorris]

I'm trying to have an answer to physical grass moves beyond the relatively squishy Tentacruel.

[umiman]

I'm trying to have an answer to physical grass moves beyond the relatively squishy Tentacruel.

If you're running a rain team, why don't you just rely on ice beam?

It's not like grass types are particularly fast. All their sweeper types rely on sun to outspeed things. And since you're running a rain team, almost everyone should have access to ice beam given they'll be all water type.

[Reudh]

I'm trying to have an answer to physical grass moves beyond the relatively squishy Tentacruel.

If you're running a rain team, why don't you just rely on ice beam?

It's not like grass types are particularly fast. All their sweeper types rely on sun to outspeed things. And since you're running a rain team, almost everyone should have access to ice beam given they'll be all water type.

Venusaur-M laughs at your puny ice beam, and needs no sun.

[Yoink]

Hnnng. Downloading. I'm binging on coffee whilst using free internet.

[umiman]

I'm trying to have an answer to physical grass moves beyond the relatively squishy Tentacruel.

If you're running a rain team, why don't you just rely on ice beam?

It's not like grass types are particularly fast. All their sweeper types rely on sun to outspeed things. And since you're running a rain team, almost everyone should have access to ice beam given they'll be all water type.

Venusaur-M laughs at your puny ice beam, and needs no sun.

Pffft.... Base 80 speed. Weak to flying and psychic. Bring it on!

<- Currently has no flying and psychic moves or pokemon.

[Urist Imiknorris]

I'm trying to have an answer to physical grass moves beyond the relatively squishy Tentacruel.

If you're running a rain team, why don't you just rely on ice beam?

It's not like grass types are particularly fast. All their sweeper types rely on sun to outspeed things. And since you're running a rain team, almost everyone should have access to ice beam given they'll be all water type.

Venusaur-M laughs at your puny ice beam, and needs no sun.

It's generally special-based though, so unless it has Earthquake Tentacruel doesn't particularly fear it. Even if it does, I don't think it can answer Gyarados.

Also I forgot that Greninja gets STAB on Ice Beam and Extrasensory, even though that's half the point of Protean.

[umiman]

Venusaur has earthquake.

[Urist Imiknorris]

It's obviously fat enough to learn it. The question is whether a given Venusaur is likely to be using it.

Umiman, I'm online if you've got that Froakie.

EDIT: Thank you very much!

[umiman]

No worries. Share some of your breeding guys with me in the future too!

I'm pretty sure the Aegislash I'm currently using is yours too. 31/31/31/x/31/x

[neotemplar]

So today my Shuckle did this in a fight:
Come out on Chesnaught-Toxic.  Guy swaps to lucario-Wraps it to death. Lapras comes out-Toxic.  Shuckle goes down.

I found this to be histerical and the guy on the other end must have been fuming.

I also had shuckle solo a Mega Charizard Y, which really impressed me with shuckle.

[neotemplar]

Shoot, accidental double post.  Sorry about that.

[Reudh]

I'm trying to have an answer to physical grass moves beyond the relatively squishy Tentacruel.

If you're running a rain team, why don't you just rely on ice beam?

It's not like grass types are particularly fast. All their sweeper types rely on sun to outspeed things. And since you're running a rain team, almost everyone should have access to ice beam given they'll be all water type.

Venusaur-M laughs at your puny ice beam, and needs no sun.

Pffft.... Base 80 speed. Weak to flying and psychic. Bring it on!

<- Currently has no flying and psychic moves or pokemon.

Base 100 speed in Mega forme.