Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 18, 2011, 08:37:27 am
5 Peasants have traveled long and hard and finaly they have reached their destination. Today they will build a village, a beacon of hope in a world of darkness, a bastion of goodwill amoung the seas of corruption, a fort of inde-
Lets just suffice to say it's going to be a nice place to live.
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To the North are many rolling hills, to the south is a beach as well as a vast lake, there is a large forest to the west and wide open plains to the east.
There is so much to do and so little time. What shall the party do, and more importantly what shall we call this soon to be prosperous township?
Population:
5x peasants
Inventory:
1x Hammer
1x Shovel
1x Pickaxe
1x Hatchet
Author Notes:
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RulerOfNothing was so kind as to compile a list of links to all of the posts which contain updates. I would advise using this if you aare going to read through it all from the beginning because sometimes there are a few pages between updates.
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I may or may not remember to update this list.
Post by: Firelordsky on September 18, 2011, 08:39:04 am
Post by: NRDL on September 18, 2011, 08:40:40 am
Cut some trees down and build a town hall/base.
Standard Warcraft 3 tactic, do it.
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 18, 2011, 08:41:27 am
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 18, 2011, 09:05:58 am
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A townhall is a bit ambitious but a shelter sounds doable in the short term, one of the peasants takes the axe only and begins to chop down trees in the forest.
One peasant stays behind to watch the equipment while the remaining 3 search for food.
The peasants have discovered: Red Berries
These berries look delicious and have a healthy red glow about them. Do you wish to gather berries for food Y/N?
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Post by: Hitty40 on September 18, 2011, 09:09:26 am
Also, have a random giant whale attack the lone peasant.
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 18, 2011, 09:10:17 am
Also keep the lone peasant watching the tools, as we probably cannot replace them if something happens to them.
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 18, 2011, 09:19:07 am
Post by: Ultimuh on September 18, 2011, 09:22:19 am
By the way.. WHAT kind of villagers are they?
Humans?
Nevermind then..
Post by: Firelordsky on September 18, 2011, 09:39:59 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 18, 2011, 09:45:52 am
Name the village Candy Mountain.
Collect the red berries.
Post by: The Merchant Of Menace on September 18, 2011, 10:03:45 am
Post by: Criptfeind on September 18, 2011, 10:40:06 am
Have one guy Collect berries.
Have one guy Take up the shovel and start making farm land (if possible, if not then go off to dig a hole in the ground as the start of a mine.)
Have one guy Take up the pickaxe and start digging a mine (if possible, if not then get the shovel guy to do so.)
Axe guy keeps cutting wood.
Have the last guy grab the hammer and go search the plains for any food grasses.
Post by: Coolnesstod on September 18, 2011, 10:41:30 am
I vote New Hope.
Have one guy Collect berries.
Have one guy Take up the shovel and start making farm land (if possible, if not then go off to dig a hole in the ground as the start of a mine.)
Have one guy Take up the pickaxe and start digging a mine (if possible, if not then get the shovel guy to do so.)
Axe guy keeps cutting wood.
Have the last guy grab the hammer and go search the plains for any food grasses.
I vote for this.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 18, 2011, 01:10:56 pm
+1 for chomping those berries and then building a fire pit.
Post by: vagel7 on September 18, 2011, 01:12:50 pm
I vote New Hope.
Have one guy Collect berries.
Have one guy Take up the shovel and start making farm land (if possible, if not then go off to dig a hole in the ground as the start of a mine.)
Have one guy Take up the pickaxe and start digging a mine (if possible, if not then get the shovel guy to do so.)
Axe guy keeps cutting wood.
Have the last guy grab the hammer and go search the plains for any food grasses.
I vote for this.
This has my full support.
Post by: Ultimuh on September 18, 2011, 01:19:09 pm
I vote New Hope.
Have one guy Collect berries.
Have one guy Take up the shovel and start making farm land (if possible, if not then go off to dig a hole in the ground as the start of a mine.)
Have one guy Take up the pickaxe and start digging a mine (if possible, if not then get the shovel guy to do so.)
Axe guy keeps cutting wood.
Have the last guy grab the hammer and go search the plains for any food grasses.
I vote for this.
This has my full support.
Same here, with the exception that the mine should probably be in the hills.
Post by: Criptfeind on September 18, 2011, 01:27:12 pm
Post by: ed boy on September 18, 2011, 03:09:24 pm
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 18, 2011, 05:19:54 pm
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Many names are considered but only one rings with the true sound of freedom, justice and all the things the party has set out to achieve...
New Hope
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After establishing that the berries are in fact safe to eat thanks to the wonderful science of taste testing the peasants split up and begin to perform their tasks:
One peasant has begun to collect the berries.
One peasant has begun to construct a mine, although it's more or less turning out to be a hole full of clay.
One peasant has started to break apart rocks for the construction of a Fire Pit.
One peasant had taken the hammer and begun the journey east to explore new and uncharted lands(also known as the plains you crossed on the way here).
The tree has been felled and the peasant begins to strip away the branches and leaves finding a bird nest in the process.
Inventory:
1x Pile of branches
1x Pile of leaves
1x Bird nest(with 2 eggs)
6x Large red berries
4x Small red berries
Equiped items:
1x Hatchet
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
1x Hammer
Population:
5 Peasants
Authors Notes:
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Post by: Firelordsky on September 18, 2011, 05:24:56 pm
Post by: tasteful on September 18, 2011, 05:27:59 pm
Post by: Coolnesstod on September 18, 2011, 05:29:10 pm
Lets name the berry-gatherer: Hans.Anyone get the reference?
Post by: Hitty40 on September 18, 2011, 05:30:10 pm
Name the tree cutter Franz.Lets name the berry-gatherer: Hans.Anyone get the reference?
Shining Force?
Post by: Coolnesstod on September 18, 2011, 05:31:42 pm
Post by: Tarran on September 18, 2011, 05:33:06 pm
*Avoids swipes*
Also, have the shoveler look for sand. If he finds sand, collect a bunch of sand and clay, in a ratio of 3 units of sand to 7 units of clay.
The berry picker shall keep picking, but avoid picking the young fruit before they are ripe.
Hammah dude shall keep going east. At a cautious rate.
Post by: ed boy on September 18, 2011, 05:37:00 pm
Post by: Heron TSG on September 18, 2011, 05:38:22 pm
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 18, 2011, 05:50:41 pm
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 18, 2011, 06:08:40 pm
Post by: Hitty40 on September 18, 2011, 06:31:50 pm
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 18, 2011, 06:39:26 pm
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 18, 2011, 07:13:39 pm
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At the village work carries on. Picky has finished processing the stone into smaller pieces for use in the fire pit, more berries have been picked by Franz and Hans has continued his work on the tree. They consider wearing leaves to cover their shame but they have no way of attaching the leaves to themselves.
Plains:
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The unnamed Peasant has found the plains and spotted a herd of plain grazers. They are resting in the shade of a lone tree.
Lake/Beach:
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Inventory:
5x Pile of branches
4x Pile of leaves
1x Bird nest(with 2 eggs)
13x Large red berries
6x Small red berries
7x Small Stone
Equiped items:
1x Hatchet
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
1x Hammer
Population:
5 Peasants
Author Notes:
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Post by: Neyvn on September 18, 2011, 07:18:57 pm
Post by: Hitty40 on September 18, 2011, 07:19:59 pm
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 18, 2011, 07:28:33 pm
We shall name the animals cows.
After Cowan, the peasant who discovered them.
Have Cowan return to the settlement and gather a few handfuls of berries to tame the cows with.
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 18, 2011, 07:31:41 pm
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 18, 2011, 07:35:08 pm
Have Jaiantlandwaylan grab some sticks and carefully build a fence around the Jaiantlandwayls.We shall name the animalscowsgiant land whales.
After Jaiantlandwaylan, the peasant who discovered them.
Have Jaiantlandwaylan return to the settlement and gather a few handfuls of berries to tame the giant land whales with.
Post by: Heron TSG on September 18, 2011, 08:11:12 pm
Oh hell yes.We shall name the animalscowsgiant land whales.
After Jaiantlandwaylan, the peasant who discovered them.
Have Jaiantlandwaylan return to the settlement and gather a few handfuls of berries to tame the giant land whales with.
And I recommend naming the fish species 'Rolphins'.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 18, 2011, 08:13:50 pm
Oh hell yes.We shall name the animalscowsgiant land whales.
After Jaiantlandwaylan, the peasant who discovered them.
Have Jaiantlandwaylan return to the settlement and gather a few handfuls of berries to tame the giant land whales with.
And I recommend naming the fish species 'Rolphins'.
Plus. Freaking. One.
Post by: Ultimuh on September 18, 2011, 08:19:29 pm
But if it's not good as is then I suggest.. Greyhorn.. yeah.. that sounds nice dosn't it? I mean, they are grey and they have horns..
As for the fish.. Pink Salmon? Wait.. what genome are they?
Maybe.. Pinkscale.. ?
Hmm.. I wonder what color they are OUT of the water?
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 18, 2011, 08:24:58 pm
I am going to have to hop the land whale-Rolphin bandwagon..
Post by: Ultimuh on September 18, 2011, 08:28:48 pm
Rolphins I can accept for the fish but.. Land Whales.. No.. That I refuse..
However I will bow down to the decision of the Game Master.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 18, 2011, 08:34:54 pm
The other names makes no sense.. I mean.. Land-whales? ???
Welcome to the Bay 12 Forums! On your right you will find a cubby box where you can put your sanity, and above that are coat racks for the ham.
Post by: micelus on September 18, 2011, 08:37:09 pm
+2Oh hell yes.We shall name the animalscowsgiant land whales.
After Jaiantlandwaylan, the peasant who discovered them.
Have Jaiantlandwaylan return to the settlement and gather a few handfuls of berries to tame the giant land whales with.
And I recommend naming the fish species 'Rolphins'.
Plus. Freaking. One.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 18, 2011, 08:43:25 pm
The other names makes no sense.. I mean.. Land-whales? ???It makes perfect sense. They're whale-like, but landbound.
Rolphins I can accept for the fish but.. Land Whales.. No.. That I refuse..
Post by: Ultimuh on September 18, 2011, 08:45:42 pm
The other names makes no sense.. I mean.. Land-whales? ???It makes perfect sense. They're whale-like, but landbound.
Rolphins I can accept for the fish but.. Land Whales.. No.. That I refuse..
They are NOTHING like whales..
But I will accept whatever will be chosen.
But it dosn't mean I have to like it.
Post by: Johnfalcon99977 on September 18, 2011, 08:51:52 pm
Begin forcibly breeding the peasants.
Post by: Firelordsky on September 18, 2011, 08:53:21 pm
Five People will not be enough for the future................ I guess?
Begin forcibly breeding the peasants.
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 18, 2011, 08:54:18 pm
Five People will not be enough for the future.
Begin forcibly breeding the peasants.
Before we are certain of their genders?? I'm not sure we will be successful in this venture.
Post by: Tarran on September 18, 2011, 08:55:37 pm
Five People will not be enough for the future.Veto. We do not even know if there are any girls/any boys. And it would take 9 months for them to be born.
Begin forcibly breeding the peasants.
Post by: Johnfalcon99977 on September 18, 2011, 08:56:00 pm
Before we are certain of their genders?? I'm not sure we will be successful in this venture.
Do I look like I care?
Veto. We do not even know if there are any girls/any boys. And it would take 9 months for them to be born.
Exactly why we should start now.
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 18, 2011, 08:57:52 pm
Post by: Ultimuh on September 18, 2011, 08:58:32 pm
I think we should get a stable food source and shelter before we think about increasing the population.
Finally something I can agree on.
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 18, 2011, 09:04:03 pm
I think we should get a stable food source and shelter before we think about increasing the population.
Finally something I can agree on.
Ya. i agrees.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 18, 2011, 09:05:35 pm
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Franz has become a Woodcutter! Franz can now chop down/process trees twice as fast!
Rolf has returned from the beach with some sand. But Rolf doesn't know what to do with it. He also discovered the Rolphins which he named after himself(because he's egotistic like that).
Jaiantlandwaylan (Jaian for short) has returned from the plains. Jaian deliberated for a while on what to call the creatures he found, he toyed with "Giant Land Whales" but decided they may be confused with whales of the south and decided to call them "Grey Horned Land Jians" despite there being no water variety of Grey Horned Jians he thought it was a good idea.
Work continued in the soon-to-be-village with the firepit only needing sticks and !!fire!! to become complete.
The tree will be turned into planks by Franz in no time if he/she continues to process it, but Franz also has ideas about creating a shelter from the leaves and sticks.
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Inventory:
5x Pile of branches -1 for construction of firepit
4x Pile of leaves
1x Bird nest(with 2 eggs)
13x Large red berries
6x Small red berries
1x Pickaxe
Equiped items:
1x Hatchet
1x Shovel
1x Hammer
Population:
4 Peasants
1 Woodcutter
Author Notes:
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Post by: Roboboy33 on September 18, 2011, 09:08:42 pm
Post by: Coolnesstod on September 18, 2011, 09:09:25 pm
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 18, 2011, 09:09:58 pm
Post by: Draxis on September 18, 2011, 09:10:05 pm
Wow, while I made the post 2 new replys were made, while I was revising it another one was made. I see people are interested.
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 18, 2011, 09:10:09 pm
Hans, Franz and Rolf are males, while jaian and Picky are females.
+1
Post by: Ultimuh on September 18, 2011, 09:12:35 pm
Anyway..
They should be building a temporary shelter for the night, plenty of sticks to use.
Post by: Tarran on September 18, 2011, 09:13:54 pm
Picky starts making a rough Kiln via rocks and clay. Use shovel or pick if needed.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 18, 2011, 09:14:21 pm
I know it doesn't make sense but it means i don't have to change the shadeing for everything later.
Sundiagram:
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Hans, Franz and Rolf are males, while jaian and Picky are females.
+1
For the sake of a pun Picky has high standards. :P
Post by: Ultimuh on September 18, 2011, 09:15:29 pm
Not an actual update i'm just gonna let you all know how the sun is working(it has been moving a little bit if you havn't noticed).
I know it doesn't make sense but it means i don't have to change the shadeing for everything later.
Sundiagram:Spoiler (click to show/hide)Hans, Franz and Rolf are males, while jaian and Picky are females.
+1
For the sake of a pun Picky has high standards. :P
That's good to know! :o
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 18, 2011, 09:23:46 pm
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 18, 2011, 10:38:05 pm
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Picky completed the fire pit and began to make more small stones for possible future constructions. Hans decided to have a little chat with picky since he had nothing better to do after moving all of the berries to the newly established Town Center.
Rolf remembered what to do with the sand and clay and began to create bricks next to the lake. Bricks will be useful in any further construction projects but they will have to dry before they can be used.
Franz and Jaian quickly constructed the frame for a shelter to spend the night in.
Inventory:
2x Pile of branches
4x Pile of leaves - 2 for construction of the shelter
4x Wet bricks
1x Bird nest(with 2 eggs)
13x Large red berries
6x Small red berries
1x Hatchet
1x Shovel
Equiped items:
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
Population:
4 Peasants
1 Woodcutter
5 turns until nightfall
Author Notes:
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Post by: Heron TSG on September 18, 2011, 10:41:23 pm
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 18, 2011, 10:42:25 pm
Post by: Coolnesstod on September 18, 2011, 10:43:12 pm
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 18, 2011, 10:48:41 pm
We need to get chopping with that wood, on the double. At the very least, we could fortify the camp site with three or four logs. Alternatively, if we have the time and resources, we could prop three logs up in a triangular structure and build a platform at the top.
At any rate, I think we should send someone westward a little ways to see just how much potential lumber we have to work with.
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 18, 2011, 10:52:32 pm
Post by: Heron TSG on September 18, 2011, 10:55:23 pm
>Use branches and leaves to finish that shelter.
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 18, 2011, 11:13:33 pm
Post by: Ultimuh on September 18, 2011, 11:23:53 pm
Folks, when Lincoln says it's going to be bad, I think he means Minecraft bad.
Minecraft bad? How about Dwarf Fortress bad?
Post by: Coolnesstod on September 18, 2011, 11:26:49 pm
Use branches and leaves to finish the shelter. Also have someone sharpen some sticks into makeshift spears.
Vote this.
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 18, 2011, 11:29:00 pm
Use branches and leaves to finish the shelter. Also have someone sharpen some sticks into makeshift spears.
Vote this.
I agree. also, as i said before, we need flint for fire, and a pointy fence around the shelter.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 19, 2011, 12:41:16 am
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Rolf has made more bricks and has made a neat little pile of them.
Jaian and Franz have completed the shelter and are now starting to build a spiked pit around it. Franz is creating wooden spears from the sticks which can be used as weapons or used in the construction of the shelter's defences.
Picky and Hans have gone to the rocky area of the beach to find flint.
Rocky Beach(right of the regular beach and below the plains):
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They have spotted other people! Three of them are talking around what appears to be broken portions of a boat, there are 2 female peasants and a male fishermen.
Inventory:
1.5x Piles of branches
2x Pile of leaves
9x Wet bricks
3x Semi-wet Bricks
1x Bird nest(with 2 eggs)
13x Large red berries
6x Small red berries
1x Hatchet
7x Wooden spears
1x Hammer
Equiped items:
1x Wooden Spear
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Population:
4 Peasants
1 Woodcutter
Total: 5
Other Entities:
2 Peasants
1 Fisherman
4 turns until nightfall
Author Notes:
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Post by: Heron TSG on September 19, 2011, 12:48:25 am
Or perhaps Greople, because they are gray people.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 19, 2011, 12:51:55 am
And then hurry up and start felling more trees and stripping branches! :-[
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 19, 2011, 01:06:01 am
I suggest that Picky and Hans talk to the newcomers.
Post by: NRDL on September 19, 2011, 01:10:39 am
Post by: micelus on September 19, 2011, 01:13:22 am
Post by: Draxis on September 19, 2011, 05:27:49 am
Post by: Hitty40 on September 19, 2011, 08:01:04 am
Post by: vagel7 on September 19, 2011, 08:51:18 am
Post by: Ultimuh on September 19, 2011, 09:56:12 am
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 19, 2011, 10:17:24 am
Chromosians? Makes sense, I vote for it.+1
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 19, 2011, 01:22:22 pm
Post by: Hitty40 on September 19, 2011, 01:29:39 pm
Post by: ed boy on September 19, 2011, 01:30:15 pm
Post by: Johnfalcon99977 on September 19, 2011, 03:34:48 pm
...
Or, alterntively, just convince them to join our town.
Post by: Ultimuh on September 19, 2011, 03:41:52 pm
Or, alterntively, just convince them to join our town.
Yes, we should.
Altough it's not much of a town.. not even a village.. yet.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 19, 2011, 07:47:17 pm
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 19, 2011, 08:03:16 pm
Seziure Warning:
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Rolf is now a clayworker! He is more efficient at pottery and brickmaking!
Village:
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Rolf has turned all of the sand and clay into bricks causing him to become a clayworker.
The shelter's defences are half finished and Franz has gone to gather more branches by cutting down trees (the only way he knows how). Jian is continuing on with construction of the defences.
Rocky Beach:
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Picky stands behind Hans pick at the ready in case these fellows try any funny buisness. Hans tells them about the village and that it's the closest civilisation around. This convinces the shipwrecked trio and they decide to join the village.
Inventory:
2x Pile of leaves
13x Wet bricks
9x Semi-wet Bricks
3x Moist bircks
1x Bird nest(with 2 eggs)
13x Large red berries
6x Small red berries
1x Hatchet
7x Wooden spears
1x Hammer
1x Wooden Spear
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Population:
5 Peasants
1 Woodcutter
1 Clayworker
1 Fisherman
Total: 8
3 turns until nightfall
Author Notes:
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Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 19, 2011, 08:13:46 pm
Send the idlers to help de-branch the trees with their hands, when they have been felled.
Post by: adwarf on September 19, 2011, 08:29:11 pm
Give of those tough women a shovel and have them dig out a small hole near the fire. Line the bottom with leaves and place our food supply inside before night falls. Cover the top first with sticks, then leaves, and finally a layer of dirt. Lay a few of Rolf's bricks at the edges to protect it!This also instead of using clay, and sand to make bricks use mud as it is far more efficient, and much faster than using clay, and sand. As for defenses we should begin digging a trench from the ocean all the way to the edge of our village, and connect them thus making a small moat. We can expand it as needed, and cross it with a simple branch bridge when needed this will give us quite a bit more protection, and should allow us to work through the night if need be. Finally we should also begin preparing some torches to help fend off animals as most animals are scared of fire.
Send the idlers to help de-branch the trees with their hands, when they have been felled.
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 19, 2011, 08:31:00 pm
Post by: Ultimuh on September 19, 2011, 08:35:09 pm
3 turns until nightfall
Every time you do that, I keep hearing that sound from Legend of Zelda: Majoras Mask whenever the game announces how many hours remain.
Post by: Tarran on September 19, 2011, 08:46:10 pm
This also instead of using clay, and sand to make bricks use mud as it is far more efficient, and much faster than using clay, and sand.What is the name of this kind of brick? Because according to Wikipedia a "Mud" brick is "made of a mixture of clay, mud, sand, and water".
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 19, 2011, 08:49:33 pm
This also instead of using clay, and sand to make bricks use mud as it is far more efficient, and much faster than using clay, and sand.What is the name of this kind of brick? Because according to Wikipedia a "Mud" brick is "made of a mixture of clay, mud, sand, and water".
Adobe, which is properly made of a very dense sort of soil with straw and cow feces mixed in. Said soil, however, in places such as where I live, is usually dense enough without the addings.
Post by: Tarran on September 19, 2011, 08:56:59 pm
My best explanation would be that your soil has a already strong concentration of clay or something.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 19, 2011, 08:59:53 pm
Give of those tough women a shovel and have them dig out a small hole near the fire. Line the bottom with leaves and place our food supply inside before night falls. Cover the top first with sticks, then leaves, and finally a layer of dirt. Lay a few of Rolf's bricks at the edges to protect it!This also instead of using clay, and sand to make bricks use mud as it is far more efficient, and much faster than using clay, and sand. As for defenses we should begin digging a trench from the ocean all the way to the edge of our village, and connect them thus making a small moat. We can expand it as needed, and cross it with a simple branch bridge when needed this will give us quite a bit more protection, and should allow us to work through the night if need be. Finally we should also begin preparing some torches to help fend off animals as most animals are scared of fire.
Send the idlers to help de-branch the trees with their hands, when they have been felled.
Just to clarify do you want the trench to block off the path to the forest?
Post by: BunnyBob77 on September 19, 2011, 09:04:26 pm
Post by: Johnfalcon99977 on September 19, 2011, 09:04:37 pm
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 19, 2011, 09:19:44 pm
>Put Seziure Warnings On Career Evolves.
Thanks for telling me about that, I diddn't consider that sort of thing when i did them.
Edit: Just remembered that we need names for the newcomers so suggest away.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 19, 2011, 09:23:08 pm
Post by: adwarf on September 19, 2011, 09:25:32 pm
Yes, because we can use portable stick bridges, or logs to cross.Give of those tough women a shovel and have them dig out a small hole near the fire. Line the bottom with leaves and place our food supply inside before night falls. Cover the top first with sticks, then leaves, and finally a layer of dirt. Lay a few of Rolf's bricks at the edges to protect it!This also instead of using clay, and sand to make bricks use mud as it is far more efficient, and much faster than using clay, and sand. As for defenses we should begin digging a trench from the ocean all the way to the edge of our village, and connect them thus making a small moat. We can expand it as needed, and cross it with a simple branch bridge when needed this will give us quite a bit more protection, and should allow us to work through the night if need be. Finally we should also begin preparing some torches to help fend off animals as most animals are scared of fire.
Send the idlers to help de-branch the trees with their hands, when they have been felled.
Just to clarify do you want the trench to block off the path to the forest?
Post by: Heron TSG on September 19, 2011, 10:33:13 pm
Edit: Just remembered that we need names for the newcomers so suggest away.>Henceforth, newcomers shall be named after the deeds they accomplish.
To that end, name the male Rex. As in, like a boat.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 19, 2011, 10:53:24 pm
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As Night approaches the villagers franticaly prepare for nightfall with Picky and one of the new females beggining to dig a trench(soon to be moat) to protect the village from any threats in the forest. Rex, Hans and the other new female begin to strip leaves and branches from the newly felled tree while Franz sharpens the sticks into makeshift spears. Rolf and Jaian continue work on the shelters defences and then hide the the Berries in a hole then conceal them.(After distributing several to the villagers for a quick meal)
Weapons:
7x Wooden Spears
Tools:
1x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
2x Pile of leaves
13x Moist bircks
12x Dry Bricks
Food:
9x Large red berries
3x Small red berries
Misc:
1x Bird nest(with 2 eggs)
Population:
5 Peasants
1 Woodcutter
1 Clayworker
1 Fisherman
Total: 8
2 turns until nightfall
Author Notes:
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Post by: NRDL on September 19, 2011, 10:54:35 pm
Build protective wall, arm people with spears.
Post by: Coolnesstod on September 19, 2011, 10:57:34 pm
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 19, 2011, 10:59:16 pm
Vote NRDL's but dont build a wall, that would take to long, instead, Light the fire and have everyone get ready for a night, its gonna be a long one.
I'm planning to have night only go for 7 or 6 turns, just to make sure they spend more time working then cowering in fear/fighting/whatever they end up doing at night.
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 19, 2011, 11:03:01 pm
Build protective wall, arm people with spears.This, then
Put the birds nest on top of the shelter
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 19, 2011, 11:12:41 pm
In my opinion, we should just forget about the trench. It is going to take far too long, and I have my doubts that such a thin, shallow body of water will keep anything out. Instead of bringing the water to us, we should go to the water. It's certainly too late now, but provided that we can survive and scrounge up some rope-worthy material, I suggest we use a couple of the logs to build a floating hut offshore, tethered to a few high posts, with a raising bridge. There we could net Rolphins and and retire for the night in peace...
Post by: Ultimuh on September 19, 2011, 11:15:57 pm
Plan nightly shifts, with at least two people staying awake at a time.
Post by: Heron TSG on September 19, 2011, 11:26:17 pm
I'd like to have most of them have normal names and not Miner1, Miner2, Cheesemaker1 and Guywhokilledabirdthattime.Alright. Puns everywhere?
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 19, 2011, 11:29:57 pm
Post by: Heron TSG on September 19, 2011, 11:48:44 pm
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 19, 2011, 11:57:45 pm
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 20, 2011, 12:05:15 am
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 20, 2011, 12:55:07 am
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The world is bathed in orange light, (as though someone had applied a tacky special effect over it) as the sun sets...
Preparations for night continue, with Rolf starting a fire using a flint he found at the beach. Jaian and Picky create small holes for lighing sentry fires while Chloe continues on the ditch-moat. Franz continues to use his hatchet to sharpen wooden spears and the others use the tree logs to create a quick wall.
Weapons:
23x Wooden Spears
Tools:
1x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
2x Piles of sticks
5x Pile of leaves
25x Dry Bricks
Food:
9x Large red berries
3x Small red berries
Misc:
1x Bird nest(with 2 eggs)
Population:
5 Peasants
1 Woodcutter
1 Clayworker
1 Fisherman
Total: 8
1 turn until nightfall
Authors Notes:
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Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 20, 2011, 01:04:59 am
Post by: Tarran on September 20, 2011, 01:07:48 am
Ummm... guys... what was the plan again? I really should've been helping/paying attention...
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 20, 2011, 01:10:14 am
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 20, 2011, 01:10:32 am
Finish that barricade, arm the Chromosians (if that's what we're calling them) and name one of those girls Chloe, ASAP!
Yeah thats what we are calling them I just havn't found a good opportunity to use the word itself.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 20, 2011, 01:16:40 am
1) The perspective disagreement; the right-side wall shouldn't really be visible
2) We're all going to die because our defenses aren't up yet, oh god.
Post by: Tarran on September 20, 2011, 01:19:33 am
But honestly, I don't see what other options we have. :-\
Lower the spear wall so the tips aren't as high as a Chromosian's neck, make them as high as a Chromosian's chest instead. Also, set up the piles of leaves and sticks up behind the spear wall to partially conceal occupants if possible.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 20, 2011, 01:31:35 am
What do you guys think of just hiding out in the trees tonight?
Post by: Tarran on September 20, 2011, 01:35:47 am
What do you guys think of just hiding out in the trees tonight?Bad plan.
Yeah, that's all I think of it, really.
Post by: NRDL on September 20, 2011, 01:40:33 am
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 20, 2011, 01:47:08 am
A trench, maybe, i'm guessing it's been suggested before. Yeah, really, the main defense is in our spears. Also, make torches, use them as both lighting and weapons.
Did you look at the pictures for the past two updates? :P
Post by: NRDL on September 20, 2011, 01:52:18 am
Post by: Alternatecash on September 20, 2011, 02:21:28 am
Post by: NRDL on September 20, 2011, 02:23:20 am
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 20, 2011, 04:37:21 am
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The sun was nearly set.
Jaian and Picky continued to construct the shelter's defences, adding more spears in between the exsisting ones and lowered their angles so they would be more deadly to shorter foes. Franz continued to create more wooden spears to replace the ones being used in the construction of the shelter's defences and in the arming of the villagers.
The rest of the villagers fired hardened the exsisting spears to increase their combat effectivness.
Weapons:
14x Wooden Spears
5x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
1x Piles of sticks
5x Pile of leaves
25x Dry Bricks
Food:
9x Large red berries
3x Small red berries
Misc:
1x Bird nest(with 2 eggs)
Population:
5 Peasants
1 Woodcutter
1 Clayworker
1 Fisherman
Total: 8
Night has come
Authors Notes:
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Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 20, 2011, 04:51:22 am
Post by: NRDL on September 20, 2011, 04:53:51 am
Have 3 people stand on guard while the others do other stuff (like sleep)
Do this. Make sure the sentries have the fire hardened spears.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 20, 2011, 04:55:33 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_drying
Yay Google.
And yeah, shifts of sleep and watches should be good.
Post by: ed boy on September 20, 2011, 05:01:26 am
Since there are eight of us, have two people sleep dusk to midnight, two people sleet midnight to dawn, to people sleep dawn to noon, and two people sleep noon to dusk.
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 20, 2011, 05:50:34 am
have the most culinary inclined chromosian smash the berries together with the eggs into a paste, splat it on a large rock and bake it by the fire until the egg in the paste is cooked. distribute the meal evenly among everyone
have a couple of people sleep early while the others finish the spear wall
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 20, 2011, 06:12:19 am
i love this kind of games, and the artwork is just lovelly!!I support cooking the berries as well.
have the most culinary inclined chromosian smash the berries together with the eggs into a paste, splat it on a large rock and bake it by the fire until the egg in the paste is cooked. distribute the meal evenly among everyone
have a couple of people sleep early while the others finish the spear wall
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 20, 2011, 06:29:30 am
i love this kind of games, and the artwork is just lovelly!!
have the most culinary inclined chromosian smash the berries together with the eggs into a paste, splat it on a large rock and bake it by the fire until the egg in the paste is cooked. distribute the meal evenly among everyone
have a couple of people sleep early while the others finish the spear wall
Thanks. It feels a bit cheated to me though because I reuse most of the assets instead of redrawing things, it does mean that I can update more often though and it doesn't kill me (and along with the small size of everything it hides how i can't draw to well).
Post by: micelus on September 20, 2011, 06:51:13 am
i love this kind of games, and the artwork is just lovelly!!
have the most culinary inclined chromosian smash the berries together with the eggs into a paste, splat it on a large rock and bake it by the fire until the egg in the paste is cooked. distribute the meal evenly among everyone
have a couple of people sleep early while the others finish the spear wall
Thanks. It feels a bit cheated to me though because I reuse most of the assets instead of redrawing things, it does mean that I can update more often though and it doesn't kill me (and along with the small size of everything it hides how i can't draw to well).
Really I think your just being modest. That artstyle is simplistically beautiful.
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 20, 2011, 07:07:54 am
Post by: NRDL on September 20, 2011, 07:10:42 am
i love this kind of games, and the artwork is just lovelly!!I support cooking the berries as well.
have the most culinary inclined chromosian smash the berries together with the eggs into a paste, splat it on a large rock and bake it by the fire until the egg in the paste is cooked. distribute the meal evenly among everyone
have a couple of people sleep early while the others finish the spear wall
I think the ones who are standing the graveyard shift should be alert, spears in hand, not crushing berries.
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 20, 2011, 07:30:39 am
though it would be careless to not leave a sentry or two, we have no real reason to think the night is any more dangerous that the day. do you propose the guys just stand around doing nothing for 6 turns?
Post by: NRDL on September 20, 2011, 07:33:51 am
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 20, 2011, 07:54:58 am
Post by: NRDL on September 20, 2011, 08:04:02 am
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 20, 2011, 08:17:53 am
come on, the guys haven eaten in a day, and this isn't the graveyard shift, the sun has just set.
though it would be careless to not leave a sentry or two, we have no real reason to think the night is any more dangerous that the day. do you propose the guys just stand around doing nothing for 6 turns?
I'm pretty sure I made them eat some berries before they hid them a few updates ago.
Also...
I propose that the guys guard the sleeping chromosomians. And Evil Lincoln specifically said "Try to survive the night." What do you think is going to happen?
Those words triggered a sequence of thoughts in my head that caused me to make my avatar.
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 20, 2011, 08:32:27 am
hide the the Berries in a hole then conceal them.(After distributing several to the villagers for a quick meal)hum, yes, apparently you did
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 20, 2011, 08:50:31 am
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 20, 2011, 11:09:20 am
Come on, since when is being undefended and unprepared fun?
Have you never played Minecraft or Dwarf Fortress..? Getting screwed is like, the best part of those games.
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 20, 2011, 11:29:27 am
Those words triggered a sequence of thoughts in my head that caused me to make my avatar.
Hmmm.... Needs more Evil. Maybe a monocle or a recently kicked puppy?
Post by: Urist Mcinternetuser on September 20, 2011, 12:09:55 pm
Post by: kaian-a-coel on September 20, 2011, 02:17:19 pm
organize guards turns. Two Chromosians will sit and watch the neighbouring, while the other 6 sleep. Change enough times during the night so that everyone got a watching turn, as short as possible (always by pair: the watchers also make sure that the other isn't sleeping.)
Post by: adwarf on September 20, 2011, 02:47:28 pm
New Hope Defense
The New Hope Defense (As I Have named it) involves the digging of a trench from the ocean up to the base of the hills, and then across to the edge of the plains, and back down to the ocean. Once this step is complete we block the edges, and empty the water out of it so we can dig we deepen the trench further, and then fill it with stakes, and spears before removing the dams. This will give us a moat around our town which we can then build a wall behind it all the way around, back to the ocean, and then it will connect to the starting point giving us a wall that completely surrounds the village, and gives us a great defensible position as well as a good spot to make a village since we have ready access to wood, clay, sand, food, and other necessities just outside our wall. As for crossing the trench we simply make either a log drawbridge or a 6-7 stack high of sticks tied together for a bridge.
Now question time:
Do our people require freshwater, or does it appear out of thin air, and do we just ignore it?
Post by: JacenHanLovesLegos on September 20, 2011, 03:34:42 pm
>Create a schedule so everybody gets a full night's sleep, but the sleep is offset so there are always people awake.+1
Since there are eight of us, have two people sleep dusk to midnight, two people sleet midnight to dawn, to people sleep dawn to noon, and two people sleep noon to dusk.
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 20, 2011, 03:35:53 pm
+another 1>Create a schedule so everybody gets a full night's sleep, but the sleep is offset so there are always people awake.+1
Since there are eight of us, have two people sleep dusk to midnight, two people sleet midnight to dawn, to people sleep dawn to noon, and two people sleep noon to dusk.
Post by: Coolnesstod on September 20, 2011, 03:38:34 pm
Just gonna keep on Adding on +1+another 1>Create a schedule so everybody gets a full night's sleep, but the sleep is offset so there are always people awake.+1
Since there are eight of us, have two people sleep dusk to midnight, two people sleet midnight to dawn, to people sleep dawn to noon, and two people sleep noon to dusk.
Post by: Ultimuh on September 20, 2011, 03:39:36 pm
Just gonna keep on Adding on +1+another 1>Create a schedule so everybody gets a full night's sleep, but the sleep is offset so there are always people awake.+1
Since there are eight of us, have two people sleep dusk to midnight, two people sleet midnight to dawn, to people sleep dawn to noon, and two people sleep noon to dusk.
plus one
Post by: Alternatecash on September 20, 2011, 04:27:17 pm
And another.Just gonna keep on Adding on +1+another 1>Create a schedule so everybody gets a full night's sleep, but the sleep is offset so there are always people awake.+1
Since there are eight of us, have two people sleep dusk to midnight, two people sleet midnight to dawn, to people sleep dawn to noon, and two people sleep noon to dusk.
plus one
Post by: micelus on September 20, 2011, 04:31:07 pm
And another.Just gonna keep on Adding on +1+another 1>Create a schedule so everybody gets a full night's sleep, but the sleep is offset so there are always people awake.+1
Since there are eight of us, have two people sleep dusk to midnight, two people sleet midnight to dawn, to people sleep dawn to noon, and two people sleep noon to dusk.
plus one
And another agreement.
Post by: Urist Mcinternetuser on September 20, 2011, 04:36:11 pm
What the hell: +1And another.Just gonna keep on Adding on +1+another 1>Create a schedule so everybody gets a full night's sleep, but the sleep is offset so there are always people awake.+1
Since there are eight of us, have two people sleep dusk to midnight, two people sleet midnight to dawn, to people sleep dawn to noon, and two people sleep noon to dusk.
plus one
And another agreement.
Post by: adwarf on September 20, 2011, 04:38:36 pm
And another +1What the hell: +1And another.Just gonna keep on Adding on +1+another 1>Create a schedule so everybody gets a full night's sleep, but the sleep is offset so there are always people awake.+1
Since there are eight of us, have two people sleep dusk to midnight, two people sleet midnight to dawn, to people sleep dawn to noon, and two people sleep noon to dusk.
plus one
And another agreement.
END QUOTE PYRAMID !
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 20, 2011, 04:41:57 pm
END QUOTE PYRAMID !YES PLEAS>
Post by: Person on September 20, 2011, 04:51:55 pm
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 20, 2011, 05:42:06 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
As night sets in the villagers decide to split into two groups, one shall keep watch until midnight and the other shall keep watch from midnight to dawn. Franz, Rolf, Jian and Chloe volunteer to take first watch with Franz forgoing a spear in favour of his trusty hatchet.
Weapons:
16x Wooden Spears
8x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
1x Pile of sticks
25x Dry Bricks
Food:
9x Large red berries
3x Small red berries
Misc:
1x Bird nest(with 2 eggs)
Population:
5 Peasants
1 Woodcutter
1 Clayworker
1 Fisherman
Total: 8
Author Notes:
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Post by: Hitty40 on September 20, 2011, 05:53:14 pm
Post by: Ultimuh on September 20, 2011, 05:55:06 pm
If anyone spots anything out of the ordinary, report back immediately! Do not investigate without the others knowing.
Post by: Tarran on September 20, 2011, 05:58:18 pm
Also, Lincoln, you once again forgot to put the leaves behind the sticks.
Post by: JacenHanLovesLegos on September 20, 2011, 06:00:23 pm
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 20, 2011, 06:05:44 pm
Please tell me that I'm not the only one who notices the two green blobs to the left... D:
Also, Lincoln, you once again forgot to put the leaves behind the sticks.
I just redid the image so the sticks and leaves are fixed.
Post by: Draxis on September 20, 2011, 06:08:14 pm
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 20, 2011, 06:27:23 pm
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Franz and Rolf decide to go on a little patrol and maybe dig a few more sentry fires while they are gone. Chloe and Jaian stay and fire harden more spears just in case they have to get their throwing on.
The air feels almost alive and the forest seems much more menacing then it did during the day.
Weapons:
14x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
1x Pile of sticks
25x Dry Bricks
Food:
9x Large red berries
3x Small red berries
Misc:
1x Bird nest(with 2 eggs)
Population:
5 Peasants
1 Woodcutter
1 Clayworker
1 Fisherman
Total: 8
Author Notes:
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Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 20, 2011, 06:29:59 pm
Two people should patroll around the camp once in a while.
Noooo! Baaaad! Stay in the camp, close the helpless companions, where they can be defended or awoken quickly..
Please tell me that I'm not the only one who notices the two green blobs to the left... D:
I see two fires, a pair of stumps, and several rocks.
I think I see them!!!111
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 20, 2011, 06:33:16 pm
(http://i53.tinypic.com/16abg4o.png)Please tell me that I'm not the only one who notices the two green blobs to the left... D:
I see two fires, a pair of stumps, and several rocks.Where are the blobs..?
I think I see them!!!111
There
Post by: Tarran on September 20, 2011, 06:35:01 pm
Keep eyes on the forest.
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 20, 2011, 06:36:02 pm
Oh dear god now there's four.Five, actually, 3 green 2 orange
Keep eyes on the forest.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 20, 2011, 06:38:22 pm
(http://i53.tinypic.com/16abg4o.png)Please tell me that I'm not the only one who notices the two green blobs to the left... D:
I see two fires, a pair of stumps, and several rocks.Where are the blobs..?
I think I see them!!!111
There
Must be my screen- all I see are four blue arrows on a black canvas. :/
At any rate, don't just run up and stab the jigglers. Everyone knows that slimes just a.) burst into countless more little slimes, or b.) crawl up weapons and devour your hands!
What we need is fire. Light some torches, and get ready with one in each hand; the off-hand torch can be thrown to keep them at bay!
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 20, 2011, 06:39:47 pm
Post by: Ultimuh on September 20, 2011, 06:41:22 pm
Post by: Alternatecash on September 20, 2011, 06:44:17 pm
When spotting something potentially hostile, alert whole camp.And a torch per person. We don't have any way of making red-light lanterns, so we'll just have to let our night-vision suffer.
Post by: adwarf on September 20, 2011, 06:59:05 pm
ThisWhen spotting something potentially hostile, alert whole camp.And a torch per person. We don't have any way of making red-light lanterns, so we'll just have to let our night-vision suffer.
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 20, 2011, 06:59:54 pm
+2ThisWhen spotting something potentially hostile, alert whole camp.And a torch per person. We don't have any way of making red-light lanterns, so we'll just have to let our night-vision suffer.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 20, 2011, 07:00:23 pm
What we need is fire. Light some torches, and get ready with one in each hand; the off-hand torch can be thrown to keep them at bay!
how are you going to make these torches?
Post by: adwarf on September 20, 2011, 07:06:22 pm
By using the flaming sticks to fend off the multiplying blobs that wish to melt our face, and eat our gizzards.What we need is fire. Light some torches, and get ready with one in each hand; the off-hand torch can be thrown to keep them at bay!
how are you going to make these torches?
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 20, 2011, 07:13:33 pm
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Franz and Rolf spot a Slime in the forest! They call to Jaian and Chloe to wake everyone up but they are confused to how a slime can even physicaly exist and suspect it is some sort of hoax.
Weapons:
14x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
1x Pile of sticks
25x Dry Bricks
Food:
9x Large red berries
3x Small red berries
Misc:
1x Bird nest(with 2 eggs)
Population:
5 Peasants
1 Woodcutter
1 Clayworker
1 Fisherman
Total: 8
Author Notes:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: ed boy on September 20, 2011, 07:16:32 pm
Post by: adwarf on September 20, 2011, 07:22:18 pm
Post by: Alternatecash on September 20, 2011, 07:29:06 pm
Post by: Johnfalcon99977 on September 20, 2011, 07:37:56 pm
Post by: Hitty40 on September 20, 2011, 07:38:51 pm
Form Phalanx Formation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalanx_formation) in the general direction of Slimes.
I believe we also need to shields to do a phalanx.
Post by: Johnfalcon99977 on September 20, 2011, 07:39:40 pm
Get everyone to form Phalanx Formation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalanx_formation) in the general direction of Slimes.
I believe we also need to shields to do a phalanx.
Doesn't matter. We have the spears.
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 20, 2011, 07:41:50 pm
Post by: Hitty40 on September 20, 2011, 07:42:29 pm
Get everyone to form Phalanx Formation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalanx_formation) in the general direction of Slimes.
I believe we also need to shields to do a phalanx.
Doesn't matter. We have the spears.
Very well.
Have everyone dual-wield spears and form a pikeman stance(split with 3 people in front and 4 people in back; have front row kneel down, spears out, with the back row standing up with spears out)
Post by: adwarf on September 20, 2011, 07:44:00 pm
Ah it would work, but I say we move four men to the logs, and trench to fight the slimes from the other side that way we can attack them, and they will be slowed down for a bit as we hold them back on the other side. Meanwhile the other four will form up around the hut, and campfire watching the hills, and plains for more attackers.Get everyone to form Phalanx Formation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalanx_formation) in the general direction of Slimes.
I believe we also need to shields to do a phalanx.
Doesn't matter. We have the spears.
EDIT: Correction it would work on anything , but slimes they are a gel like substance, and will just absorb the impact we need to hold them off until we get some fire to fight them back into the forest.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 20, 2011, 07:46:52 pm
Phalanx, you said?
Also, I vote we adopt the slime.
Post by: adwarf on September 20, 2011, 07:48:28 pm
http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/walk1-1-boss1.) I hated that boss never got past him.
Phalanx, you said?
Also, I vote we adopt the slime.
2.) Ya thats the best idea lets adopt the things that want to kill us with their hugs.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 20, 2011, 07:50:21 pm
Post by: Johnfalcon99977 on September 20, 2011, 07:50:50 pm
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 20, 2011, 07:55:41 pm
No, All slimes are obviously evil. Kill it now.
With fire, since it can't be emphasized enough.
Post by: Draxis on September 20, 2011, 07:56:32 pm
Also:
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Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 20, 2011, 07:57:50 pm
Post by: ed boy on September 20, 2011, 08:00:40 pm
Also:That's nothing. Earlier on, I had 40 new replies to this thread.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Urist Mcinternetuser on September 20, 2011, 08:02:35 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 20, 2011, 08:02:52 pm
Post by: adwarf on September 20, 2011, 08:04:26 pm
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 20, 2011, 08:06:06 pm
Post by: Tarran on September 20, 2011, 08:10:37 pm
Wake the others, Phalanx as Johnfalcon suggested.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 20, 2011, 08:15:11 pm
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 20, 2011, 08:47:55 pm
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Everyone wakes up and franticaly reaches for their spears (Excluding Picky who feels more comfortable using her pick).
Franz anc Rolf run to the log wall to try and stop the slimes climbing over it while Jaian and Chloe move to run around the wall and flank the slimes. As Rolf's spear pierces the first slime's thick outer-membrane it begins to slowly bleed a thick green sludge and deflate slightly as it tries to scale the log wall.
Rex and Arete stand near the pile of spears ready to rain down wooden death onto their foes(throw a few spears at them) and Picky and Hans watch the hills and plains for signs of more enemies.
Weapons:
14x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
1x Pile of sticks
25x Dry Bricks
Food:
9x Large red berries
3x Small red berries
Misc:
1x Bird nest(with 2 eggs)
Population:
5 Peasants
1 Woodcutter
1 Clayworker
1 Fisherman
Total: 8
Author Notes:
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Post by: Johnfalcon99977 on September 20, 2011, 08:49:27 pm
Line up against the Log and stab them as they come up.
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 20, 2011, 09:00:04 pm
Post by: adwarf on September 20, 2011, 09:01:54 pm
(Is there no moon at all, or what?)
Post by: Johnfalcon99977 on September 20, 2011, 09:02:19 pm
Keep two men looking toward our flank and Behind, in case enemies come from other directions.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 20, 2011, 09:07:14 pm
Keep up the current plan, but keep everyone on this side of the wall, and have those who are flanking help hold the slimes on the other side of the wall.
(Is there no moon at all, or what?)
There is a moon I just forgot to draw it in.
Post by: Tarran on September 20, 2011, 09:13:41 pm
Post by: JacenHanLovesLegos on September 20, 2011, 09:14:24 pm
Fine then.This.
Line up against the Log and stab them as they come up.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 20, 2011, 09:17:16 pm
We could perhaps roll the log over them.
Pop pop pop.
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 20, 2011, 09:19:05 pm
Poor slimes. :<
We could perhaps roll the log over them.
Pop pop pop.
GENIOUS!
do that at once!
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 20, 2011, 09:21:00 pm
+2Fine then.This.
Line up against the Log and stab them as they come up.
Post by: stabbymcstabstab on September 20, 2011, 09:25:28 pm
Post by: Tarran on September 20, 2011, 09:27:00 pm
Just make sure to watch your feet, just in case they're acidic or toxic.Poor slimes. :<
We could perhaps roll the log over them.
Pop pop pop.
GENIOUS!
do that at once!
Post by: JacenHanLovesLegos on September 20, 2011, 09:28:27 pm
I take mine back! This!Just make sure to watch your feet, just in case they're acidic or toxic.Poor slimes. :<
We could perhaps roll the log over them.
Pop pop pop.
GENIOUS!
do that at once!
Post by: Tarran on September 20, 2011, 09:30:28 pm
:|
Post by: JacenHanLovesLegos on September 20, 2011, 09:31:31 pm
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 20, 2011, 09:33:28 pm
So... you took back your vote for stabbing them so you could put it in stabbing them again?Yes, he did, because he's that awesome.
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 20, 2011, 09:34:31 pm
Post by: Johnfalcon99977 on September 20, 2011, 09:41:41 pm
Now that I have thought about that, I realize how stupid it is and how drastically it will fail.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 20, 2011, 10:02:43 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
The villagers try and hold back the slimes from behind the logs. The green slimes have a thick membrane that when punctured, causes them to bleed thick sludge while the orange slimes have a composition closer to that of very thick dry tree sap and only split when stabbed or slashed. The slimes continue to advance despite some of them being filled with numerous holes and oozing sludge everywhere.
Weapons:
14x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
1x Pile of sticks
25x Dry Bricks
Food:
9x Large red berries
3x Small red berries
Misc:
1x Bird nest(with 2 eggs)
Population:
5 Peasants
1 Woodcutter
1 Clayworker
1 Fisherman
Total: 8
Author Notes:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Tarran on September 20, 2011, 10:06:05 pm
This is the only way I think we can deal with these blobs if they're still moving after a stabbing.
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 20, 2011, 10:07:31 pm
Author Notes:then allow me to start the quote pyramidSpoiler (click to show/hide)
Poor slimes. :<
We could perhaps roll the log over them.
Pop pop pop.
Post by: JacenHanLovesLegos on September 20, 2011, 10:13:01 pm
This!Poor slimes. :<(This)
We could perhaps roll the log over them.
Pop pop pop.
Post by: NRDL on September 20, 2011, 10:15:42 pm
Post by: Coolnesstod on September 20, 2011, 10:16:27 pm
Stab them a bit more, then lure them back to the fires.I like this one.
Post by: Supernerd on September 20, 2011, 10:41:22 pm
Post by: Alternatecash on September 20, 2011, 10:42:45 pm
...I'm sorry.
Post by: Coolnesstod on September 20, 2011, 10:55:07 pm
Post by: NRDL on September 20, 2011, 11:08:56 pm
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 20, 2011, 11:23:03 pm
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 20, 2011, 11:32:32 pm
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The villagers roll the log over the green slimes, crushing them all with a satisfying 'pop' sound. Picky takes a swing at the closest one and the severed part flies off in an arc! The severed part falls closer to the fire and begins to melt. Meanwhile other orange slime is being hacked to pieces by Franz and Hans.
Weapons:
14x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
1x Pile of sticks
25x Dry Bricks
Food:
9x Large red berries
3x Small red berries
Misc:
1x Bird nest(with 2 eggs)
Population:
5 Peasants
1 Woodcutter
1 Clayworker
1 Fisherman
Total: 8
Author notes:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 20, 2011, 11:39:27 pm
In any case, Use the shovel to scoop the green slime into one place, then roll the log back into place.
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 20, 2011, 11:43:38 pm
Post by: Alternatecash on September 20, 2011, 11:50:07 pm
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 20, 2011, 11:50:53 pm
Post by: Urist Mcinternetuser on September 21, 2011, 12:09:35 am
Post by: Ultimuh on September 21, 2011, 12:12:35 am
However next night.. who knows?
Post by: Tarran on September 21, 2011, 12:35:53 am
Maybe a moat, then a ramp, then wooden stick wall reinforced with clay and leaves, then finally have the corners raised to shoot things over. Of course, it'll also have one end protected by the river. And have a plank of wood cut from a tree trunk large enough to get across. That should stop quite a few creatures.
Code: (What I would imagine it looking like) [Select]
M=Moat
S=Reinforced sticks.
P=Clay ramps.
D="Drawbridge" (plank which can be angled like a wall but is long enough to get across the moat, extends up to "Three tiles", AKA in actual function the length of the moat).
R=River.
.=Etc.
.......................
....MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM....
....MPPPPPPPPPPPPPM....
....MPSSSSSSSSSSSPM....
....MPSR.......RSPM....
....MPS.........SRM....
....MPS.........DRM....
....MPS.........SRM....
....MPSR.......RSPM....
....MPSSSSSSSSSSSPM....
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRThoughts?
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 21, 2011, 12:42:17 am
Post by: Alternatecash on September 21, 2011, 12:43:18 am
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 21, 2011, 12:45:50 am
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 21, 2011, 12:46:26 am
Post by: Tarran on September 21, 2011, 12:50:06 am
i think it's a bit soon for megaprojects. other then that, i'm cool with thatIt's not a megaproject. We had two people dig the current moat out in two turns. With this many people we could do so potentially even faster. And the ramp would be easy: Just dump everything on the other side.
The stick wall and clay would be the only real challenge, but once again, two people did half of the hut defense in two turns.
Really, I would only expect it to take a day with the amount of people we have. Picky and someone else dig the trench, others make the stick wall while what's-his-name cuts down trees and knocks off branches as fast as possible.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 21, 2011, 01:06:41 am
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Village:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
The Slimes have been defeated!
Everyone settles down and the first watch goes to get some shuteye while the 2nd begins to do a little patrol in search of more slimes and clean up the battlefield.
Weapons:
14x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
1x Pile of sticks
25x Dry Bricks
Food:
9x Large red berries
3x Small red berries
Misc:
1x Bird nest(with 2 eggs)
Population:
5 Peasants
1 Woodcutter
1 Clayworker
1 Fisherman
Total: 8
Author Notes:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 21, 2011, 01:09:44 am
:'( Why? Oh god why? The poor innocent slimes. All they wanted to do was say "hi".
;-;
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 21, 2011, 01:11:15 am
Post by: Alternatecash on September 21, 2011, 01:12:42 am
Post by: Demonic Spoon on September 21, 2011, 02:11:48 am
but the werewolf is supposed to be there isn't it?
It looks more like a stickman(man made of sticks) to me.
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 21, 2011, 02:21:43 am
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 21, 2011, 02:23:08 am
Post by: Demonic Spoon on September 21, 2011, 02:23:35 am
cool, then he's flamableAnything is flammable if you have enough fire.
Post by: NRDL on September 21, 2011, 03:28:32 am
Post by: Tarran on September 21, 2011, 03:44:22 am
And he was in the last update, too. I can't believe I didn't notice him. Stealthy bastard. :o
Post by: NRDL on September 21, 2011, 03:46:14 am
We really need torches once the sun rises, having nothing but spears and logs as weapons sucks. Prehistoric humanity survived by using fire and tools, that's what the Chromies should do.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 21, 2011, 03:47:14 am
Post by: NRDL on September 21, 2011, 03:48:31 am
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 21, 2011, 03:49:20 am
Also I had a quick check and apparently it arrived two updates ago (look for the red eyes)
Post by: NRDL on September 21, 2011, 03:50:18 am
Apparently, I am an idiot.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 21, 2011, 03:52:54 am
Post by: NRDL on September 21, 2011, 03:53:40 am
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 21, 2011, 03:56:09 am
Scroll to the right. If that doesn't work, fix your settings.
There's no scroll bar. :(
Alas!
Post by: Tarran on September 21, 2011, 03:56:59 am
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 21, 2011, 03:58:56 am
Try View Image via right-click.
Aaaaahhhhhhhh!~
Quick, sticks and bricks! Kill (or ward it off) by throwing bricks and using slime torches!
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 21, 2011, 04:51:16 am
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
A stick-man is sighted and the villagers spring back into action. They surround it, menacing it with their weapons, but it only seems to flinch at the sight of Rex's flaming bundle of sticks and Franz's Hatchete.
Weapons:
14x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
1x Pile of sticks
25x Dry Bricks
Food:
9x Large red berries
3x Small red berries
Misc:
1x Bird nest(with 2 eggs)
Population:
5 Peasants
1 Woodcutter
1 Clayworker
1 Fisherman
Total: 8
Author Notes:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 21, 2011, 04:56:08 am
Cut off its legs and arms.
Adopt that shit.
Post by: Tarran on September 21, 2011, 04:58:07 am
Failing that, Franz hacks at the legs from behind while everyone with spears is stabbing, then Rex will set the creature ablaze while it's on the ground.
Post by: NRDL on September 21, 2011, 05:15:19 am
Post by: micelus on September 21, 2011, 05:21:05 am
Post by: adwarf on September 21, 2011, 05:55:20 am
Tell it to surrender and stick it's hands in the air, or we'll hack and burn it to death. Remind it that it will be painful.This, and if it still isn't dead shove it into the fire.
Failing that, Franz hacks at the legs from behind while everyone with spears is stabbing, then Rex will set the creature ablaze while it's on the ground.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 21, 2011, 06:27:39 am
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 21, 2011, 07:33:41 am
by the way, what program do you use to make your stuff?
Post by: kaian-a-coel on September 21, 2011, 08:59:37 am
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 21, 2011, 09:18:22 am
Post by: JacenHanLovesLegos on September 21, 2011, 09:25:39 am
Tell it to surrender and stick it's hands in the air, or we'll hack and burn it to death. Remind it that it will be painful.+1
Failing that, Franz hacks at the legs from behind while everyone with spears is stabbing, then Rex will set the creature ablaze while it's on the ground.
Post by: Neyvn on September 21, 2011, 09:38:05 am
The stickman also appeared when the first round of combat started with the smiles...
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 21, 2011, 09:39:07 am
Post by: Ahra on September 21, 2011, 09:39:38 am
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 21, 2011, 09:44:04 am
Post by: Ahra on September 21, 2011, 09:46:10 am
Post by: NRDL on September 21, 2011, 09:46:45 am
he has red glowy eyes and only comes out at night: not tameable either. kill
We are the Warchromes, we shall appose the platinum doves until all potentially dangerous beings are stabbed with pointy sticks!
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 21, 2011, 11:36:08 am
Tell it to surrender and stick it's hands in the air, or we'll hack and burn it to death. Remind it that it will be painful.
Failing that, Franz hacks at the legs from behind while everyone with spears is stabbing, then Rex will set the creature ablaze while it's on the ground.
This one. I for one, do not advocate diplomacy non-mammalian creatures with glowing red eyes (or none at all) that beeline for our camp in the dead of night.
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 21, 2011, 01:14:40 pm
I post to watch, and to support this action plan.Tell it to surrender and stick it's hands in the air, or we'll hack and burn it to death. Remind it that it will be painful.
Failing that, Franz hacks at the legs from behind while everyone with spears is stabbing, then Rex will set the creature ablaze while it's on the ground.
This one. I for one, do not advocate diplomacy non-mammalian creatures with glowing red eyes (or none at all) that beeline for our camp in the dead of night.
Post by: Supernerd on September 21, 2011, 01:26:41 pm
Post by: Alternatecash on September 21, 2011, 02:39:12 pm
Post by: micelus on September 21, 2011, 02:40:24 pm
I post to watch, and to support this action plan.Tell it to surrender and stick it's hands in the air, or we'll hack and burn it to death. Remind it that it will be painful.
Failing that, Franz hacks at the legs from behind while everyone with spears is stabbing, then Rex will set the creature ablaze while it's on the ground.
This one. I for one, do not advocate diplomacy non-mammalian creatures with glowing red eyes (or none at all) that beeline for our camp in the dead of night.
I'm supporting this instead
Post by: cheezy130 on September 21, 2011, 04:28:43 pm
Post by: adwarf on September 21, 2011, 06:42:26 pm
Post by: Johnfalcon99977 on September 21, 2011, 06:43:49 pm
The first person to become a fighter of some sort shall be named Adwarf (After me) (Please!!!)
Why? You have made no useful contributions to the cause.
Post by: Hitty40 on September 21, 2011, 06:44:55 pm
The first person to become a fighter of some sort shall be named Adwarf (After me) (Please!!!)
Why? You have made no useful contributions to the cause.
Agree. Contribute before you post something stupid like that.
Post by: Tarran on September 21, 2011, 06:50:39 pm
Post by: adwarf on September 21, 2011, 06:59:29 pm
And besides, why the hell would you want to be named in a suggestion game? Considering ANYONE can control you with enough votes. People could vote for you to fight a gigantic monster alone and you would be completely unable to do anything.That is the point I was planning to use that specific character to use to scout highly dangerous ares alone that way we gain quite a bit of knowledge with little risk to our productivity.
Post by: adwarf on September 21, 2011, 07:00:27 pm
Don't act like JF who hates from an earlier game just, because he couldn't have his way, and started insulting me instead.The first person to become a fighter of some sort shall be named Adwarf (After me) (Please!!!)
Why? You have made no useful contributions to the cause.
Agree. Contribute before you post something stupid like that.
EDIT: (( Dang-it double post I miss clicked sorry.))
Post by: Hitty40 on September 21, 2011, 07:02:41 pm
Don't act like JF who hates from an earlier game just, because he couldn't have his way, and started insulting me instead.The first person to become a fighter of some sort shall be named Adwarf (After me) (Please!!!)
Why? You have made no useful contributions to the cause.
Agree. Contribute before you post something stupid like that.
EDIT: (( Dang-it double post I miss clicked sorry.))
I'm not JF(Whoever that is), I'm SATAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!
Post by: adwarf on September 21, 2011, 07:07:01 pm
I'm not JF(Whoever that is), I'm SATAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!JF = JohnFalcon.
Also in case you wonder what the plan is it involves a form of a quickly made Napalm explosives (Not literally napalm its more of a mix of tree sap, oil, and other easily flammable liquids) to take out an enemy that is far stronger than we have a chance to beat. This way we have a back-up plan to protect the village.
Post by: Johnfalcon99977 on September 21, 2011, 07:11:41 pm
Also in case you wonder what the plan is it involves a form of a quickly made Napalm explosives (Not literally napalm its more of a mix of tree sap, oil, and other easily flammable liquids) to take out an enemy that is far stronger than we have a chance to beat. This way we have a back-up plan to protect the village.You do realize we need Napalm to make Napalm explosives, right? And instead of permanently scorching the landscape and possiblely killing some of our own, why don't we just use the safer solution of stabing it to death?
The reason I don't like you is because you keep saying stupid stuff like this. And I know you wanted to invade me in Colonies At War, even with my Superior Fighting force and now incredibly overpowered ally?
Post by: adwarf on September 21, 2011, 07:13:13 pm
Would you please stop picking fights every time you see me in the same thread its getting on my nerves is making me want to quit coming here all together, because I really hate person to person conflict.Also in case you wonder what the plan is it involves a form of a quickly made Napalm explosives (Not literally napalm its more of a mix of tree sap, oil, and other easily flammable liquids) to take out an enemy that is far stronger than we have a chance to beat. This way we have a back-up plan to protect the village.You do realize we need Napalm to make Napalm explosives, right? And instead of permanently scorching the landscape and possiblely killing some of our own, why don't we just use the safer solution of stabing it to death?
The reason I don't like you is because you keep saying stupid stuff like this. And I know you wanted to invade me in Colonies At War, even with my Superior Fighting force and now incredibly overpowered ally?
As for Napalm I didn't mean it literally its just basically a fire container we can smash on the enemy, and cover them in the sap, and stuff to light them on fire.
Post by: Johnfalcon99977 on September 21, 2011, 07:14:38 pm
Post by: Ultimuh on September 21, 2011, 07:15:08 pm
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 21, 2011, 07:16:19 pm
And besides, why the hell would you want to be named in a suggestion game? Considering ANYONE can control you with enough votes. People could vote for you to fight a gigantic monster alone and you would be completely unable to do anything.i'd argue that's precisely the fun in it
fucking stop that right now. I'LL REPORT YOU ALL! I'M SERIOUS, DONT TEST ME!!Also in case you wonder what the plan is it involves a form of a quickly made Napalm explosives (Not literally napalm its more of a mix of tree sap, oil, and other easily flammable liquids) to take out an enemy that is far stronger than we have a chance to beat. This way we have a back-up plan to protect the village.You do realize we need Napalm to make Napalm explosives, right? And instead of permanently scorching the landscape and possiblely killing some of our own, why don't we just use the safer solution of stabing it to death?
The reason I don't like you is because you keep saying stupid stuff like this. And I know you wanted to invade me in Colonies At War, even with my Superior Fighting force and now incredibly overpowered ally?
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 21, 2011, 07:17:13 pm
you did bring up the subject
E:fuck, i doubleposted
Post by: adwarf on September 21, 2011, 07:18:20 pm
Picking fights? What the hell did I say to pick I fight with you? I just said the reason I don't like you, and how flawed your plan is.I know its flawed, but you don't have to be a complete ass every time you tell me that its dumb, or ask why.
Like here you could have just asked why instead of being a jerk, and saying I have made absolutely no contributions to the thread at all if you look back I have suggested stuff, and that post is just you being a jerk.The first person to become a fighter of some sort shall be named Adwarf (After me) (Please!!!)
Why? You have made no useful contributions to the cause.
Also this argument ends here I don't want to clutter the thread, and if you continue I am just going to leave.
you did bring up the subject
E:fuck, i doubleposted
I know I did expect people to ask why just not to be total jerks instead.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 21, 2011, 07:18:59 pm
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Hans told the stick-man-creature that they meant it no harm.
It then proceeded to put hans through a world of hurt:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Village The villagers then proceeded with Plan B:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
The red lights in the creatures eyes went out as the fire engulfed it's body and the villagers breathed a sigh of relief (until they remembered how beat up hans was).
Weapons:
14x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
1x Pile of sticks
25x Dry Bricks
Food:
9x Large red berries
3x Small red berries
Misc:
1x Bird nest(with 2 eggs)
Population:
5 Peasants
1 Woodcutter
1 Clayworker
1 Fisherman
Total: 8
Authors Notes:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Ultimuh on September 21, 2011, 07:20:39 pm
Post by: Hitty40 on September 21, 2011, 07:22:35 pm
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 21, 2011, 07:23:07 pm
Try to examine Hans' wounds
Post by: adwarf on September 21, 2011, 07:24:15 pm
(I don't see any more monsters, but I do notice a berry bush near the plains that I haven't seen until not.)
((Also sorry about the argument Lincoln instead name one of the other un-named ones Hickler I want to make him the scout, so we can use him to explore the forest, and its hills.))
Question: Is Hans Dead?
Post by: Ultimuh on September 21, 2011, 07:25:38 pm
Post by: Johnfalcon99977 on September 21, 2011, 07:26:48 pm
And the stuff you suggested were very flawed and not very thought out ideas.
It still doesn't change the fact that your not getting anyone named after you in till you come up with a well thought out plan. If you would even want to be named after someone, which I do not see the point in. And if you pay attention, I did contribute my ideas, in the form of saying that we should take cover behind the Log to fight the slimes.
But honestly, I can tell persisting will only make you futher the arguement, so I will end this.
Put Hans in Care now and bandage him. We will examine his wounds later.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 21, 2011, 07:27:34 pm
Question: Is Hans Dead?
No, If he was I would have made it much more elaborate (he is my favorite after all(because of his badass name)).
I'll probabley skip to morning because thats all the dangers i had planned for the night, it means we don't have to have a bunch of updates to describe how nothing has changed. So make suggestions that will work for the entire night.
Post by: Hitty40 on September 21, 2011, 07:28:40 pm
Question: Is Hans Dead?
No, If he was I would have made it much more elaborate (he is my favorite after all(because of his badass name)).
I'll probabley skip to morning because thats all the dangers i had planned for the night, it means we don't have to have a bunch of updates to describe how nothing has changed. So make suggestions that will work for the entire night.
So, how will wound recovery work? Do you have an idea?
Post by: adwarf on September 21, 2011, 07:29:46 pm
Question: Is Hans Dead?
No, If he was I would have made it much more elaborate (he is my favorite after all(because of his badass name)).
I'll probabley skip to morning because thats all the dangers i had planned for the night, it means we don't have to have a bunch of updates to describe how nothing has changed. So make suggestions that will work for the entire night.
Okay then
Continue the planned sleeping shifts, whilst tending to Hans wounds. I suggest we sear the more severe sounds by searing them shut, to stop the bleeding, and keep Hans from bleeding out.
(Though I hope someone else knows a better way to help Hans)
Post by: Hitty40 on September 21, 2011, 07:34:31 pm
Question: Is Hans Dead?
No, If he was I would have made it much more elaborate (he is my favorite after all(because of his badass name)).
I'll probabley skip to morning because thats all the dangers i had planned for the night, it means we don't have to have a bunch of updates to describe how nothing has changed. So make suggestions that will work for the entire night.
Okay then
Continue the planned sleeping shifts, whilst tending to Hans wounds. I suggest we sear the more severe sounds by searing them shut, to stop the bleeding, and keep Hans from bleeding out.
(Though I hope someone else knows a better way to help Hans)
What about infection?
Post by: adwarf on September 21, 2011, 07:37:38 pm
Post by: Hitty40 on September 21, 2011, 07:40:50 pm
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 21, 2011, 07:43:08 pm
The animation was pretty horrible to begin with.LIES!! that was awesome!
We would clean the wounds first, but there isn't much we can do without some medicinal herbs, or some form of medicine all we can do is hope, and pray. Though there may be a way to treat his wounds, and prevent infection even better, but I am not currently aware of them.wash them frequently with boiled water. it should work, the gm hasn't given us anything else to work with
Post by: adwarf on September 21, 2011, 07:46:50 pm
We might be able to make something out of the berries, but I am not sure if that would help it could make it worse, so yep its best to use boiled water to clean the wounds, sear the more serious ones closed, and clean them on a regular basis with boiled water until they have finished healing completely.We would clean the wounds first, but there isn't much we can do without some medicinal herbs, or some form of medicine all we can do is hope, and pray. Though there may be a way to treat his wounds, and prevent infection even better, but I am not currently aware of them.wash them frequently with boiled water. it should work, the gm hasn't given us anything else to work with
Also I just got an idea why don't we dip a stick in the green slime gel, and light it one fire thus giving us a torch !
Post by: Tarran on September 21, 2011, 07:52:00 pm
Anyway, OH GOD HANS.
Seriously, who thought it was a good idea to go diplomatic on it. :|
I would lecture you, but I believe this recent update was a good enough lecture.
Well, I have nothing to add, everything I would've thought of was posted.
To me, it was horrible.The animation was pretty horrible to begin with.LIES!! that was awesome!
But really, I don't care. This kind of game doesn't really need good animations.
Post by: stabbymcstabstab on September 21, 2011, 07:54:36 pm
Post by: Tarran on September 21, 2011, 07:55:59 pm
Post by: adwarf on September 21, 2011, 07:56:28 pm
I say we got a new rule if it isn't a know friend of the village(Migrants/traders/village members/anything we know is friendly) Just stab it and stab it.Then how would we know if its friendly?
No, that would include migrants. This is one of those times where, like in Dwarf Fortress, you actually need more migrants.Agreed
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 21, 2011, 07:58:11 pm
Post by: adwarf on September 21, 2011, 08:01:24 pm
if it approaches us by the dead of night and has clearly evil characteristics, do not try to reason with it. if it has cute cuddly features, it's probably safe to eat, so do not reason with it either.That is a rule I could live by, so I agree with this also in the morning we should continue the making of clay bricks, the digging of the lake trench/moat, and the chopping down, and stripping of trees.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 21, 2011, 08:29:15 pm
if it approaches us by the dead of night and has clearly evil characteristics, do not try to reason with it. if it has cute cuddly features, it's probably safe to eat, so do not reason with it either.
I would not be opposed to a humorous little plaque on our village gates that read this.
When morning comes, send Chloe along with an escort into the forest and/or hills to search for medicinal herbs that would be of use to Hans' condition.
Post by: Hitty40 on September 21, 2011, 08:37:35 pm
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Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 21, 2011, 08:57:35 pm
Village:
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The sun rises to see a new day, the horrors of the night are left behind as the villagers go about their jobs. The forest loses it's menace as the sun rises and appears just as it had the day before.
Rolf decides to apprentice Arete in the fine art of brickmaking, Due to teaching Arete will become a Clayworker in 2 turns.
Picky decides to gather more stone, while gathering stone she notices that the tree the stick-man appeared is missing bark, this missing bark is in a simular shape to the creature.
Jaian experimets with the slime sludge to see if creating torches using them is possible. The Green sludge's only reaction to the flame is getting drier and harder, while the remains of the orange slimes just melts. In the light of day the orange chunks look even more simular to hardned treesap while the green remains bare a resemblance to some sort of algae.
Rex thinks that fish would be good for breakfast and decides to practice one of his favorite pastimes (spear fishing) down by the beach.
Hans is conscious but still in great pain, the creature gave him moderately deep scratches and peeled off some portions of his skin the villagers did all they could to disenfect the wounds.
Weapons:
14x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
1x Pile of sticks
25x Dry Bricks
Food:
9x Large red berries
3x Small red berries
Misc:
1x Bird nest(with 2 eggs)
Population:
5 Peasants
1 Woodcutter
1 Clayworker
1 Fisherman
Total: 8
Author Notes:
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Post by: Ultimuh on September 21, 2011, 09:05:56 pm
(Maybe with enough experience, she (she's a she right?) might become a Slime expert? Or what should such a person be called? Slimologist?)
Post by: Hitty40 on September 21, 2011, 09:08:28 pm
After Jaian is done experimenting, go and see if he can domesticate the land Jaians.
Post by: Tarran on September 21, 2011, 09:08:53 pm
Picky decides to gather more stone, while gathering stone she notices that the tree the stick-man appeared is missing bark, this missing bark is in a simular shape to the creature.I now vote for our axeman to cut down ALL TREES in the area. Or at the VERY LEAST that one. Anyone with me?
Also, Rolfy keeps apprenticing Arete. We will brick to the heavens.
Post by: Ultimuh on September 21, 2011, 09:10:23 pm
Picky decides to gather more stone, while gathering stone she notices that the tree the stick-man appeared is missing bark, this missing bark is in a simular shape to the creature.I now vote for our axeman to cut down ALL TREES in the area. Or at the VERY LEAST that one. Anyone with me?
I am against that. While the trees might harbor dangerous creatures, I am sure they might be helpful in some way as well.
We should wait with that until we run out of building space.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 21, 2011, 09:10:40 pm
Anyway, we have two real priorities right now:
1) Food
2) Defenses adequate to prevent attacks outright
For matter 2, I recommend we finish our moat.
Post by: Tarran on September 21, 2011, 09:17:23 pm
Think about it, man: ONE of these creatures crippled one of our guys in ONE turn.Picky decides to gather more stone, while gathering stone she notices that the tree the stick-man appeared is missing bark, this missing bark is in a simular shape to the creature.I now vote for our axeman to cut down ALL TREES in the area. Or at the VERY LEAST that one. Anyone with me?
I am against that. While the trees might harbor dangerous creatures, I am sure they might be helpful in some way as well.
We should wait with that until we run out of building space.
With all these trees around, they ALL could potentially spawn one of these creatures! And there's definitely the possibility for them to spawn even more each, since the tree didn't loose a ton of bark after the spawning of one.
We could be attacked from ALL DIRECTIONS, get surrounded, and slaughtered. Think about it.
Man, you guys voted murder the hell out of the slimes then voted to try to reason with a thing that has glowing red eyes? Are you for real?I agree. I mean, seriously, who thought diplomacy was a good idea.
Who.
Post by: Ultimuh on September 21, 2011, 09:21:33 pm
Think about it, man: ONE of these creatures crippled one of our guys in ONE turn.Picky decides to gather more stone, while gathering stone she notices that the tree the stick-man appeared is missing bark, this missing bark is in a simular shape to the creature.I now vote for our axeman to cut down ALL TREES in the area. Or at the VERY LEAST that one. Anyone with me?
I am against that. While the trees might harbor dangerous creatures, I am sure they might be helpful in some way as well.
We should wait with that until we run out of building space.
With all these trees around, they ALL could potentially spawn one of these creatures! And there's definitely the possibility for them to spawn even more each, since the tree didn't loose a ton of bark after the spawning of one.
We could be attacked from ALL DIRECTIONS, get surrounded, and slaughtered. Think about it.Man, you guys voted murder the hell out of the slimes then voted to try to reason with a thing that has glowing red eyes? Are you for real?I agree. I mean, seriously, who thought diplomacy was a good idea.
Who.
*checks*
Tell it to surrender and stick it's hands in the air, or we'll hack and burn it to death. Remind it that it will be painful.+1
Failing that, Franz hacks at the legs from behind while everyone with spears is stabbing, then Rex will set the creature ablaze while it's on the ground.
I beieve it was.. you. :o
And Jacen jumped the bandwagon.
Edit: About the trees.. Who says that is the ONLY source of monsters?
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 21, 2011, 09:26:59 pm
Send Chloe along with an escort into the forest and/or hills to search for medicinal herbs that would be of use to Hans' condition.
Also: Cutting down trees might have been what caused the stick man, for all we known. We'd do better to just make use of things as we needed them, and simply fortify our position as much as humanly possible.
Post by: Tarran on September 21, 2011, 09:27:23 pm
I beieve it was.. you. :oI did NOT try to reason with it in the way you are implying.
And Jacen jumped the bandwagon.
The difference between my action and diplomacy is the difference between telling a man with a sword to stick his hands in the air, and walking up to him and trying to be friends. BIG difference. The difference is intimidation and warning Vs. befriending and diplomacy.
Edit: About the trees.. Who says that is the ONLY source of monsters?I don't see how that's arguing against me.
I did not say they are the only source.
I said they are a potential source. That is all around us. And in great numbers.
Post by: Ultimuh on September 21, 2011, 09:29:00 pm
Post by: Urist Mcinternetuser on September 21, 2011, 09:35:40 pm
Post by: Tarran on September 21, 2011, 09:41:26 pm
...Code: (What I would imagine it looking like) [Select]M=Moat...
S=Reinforced sticks.
P=Clay ramps.
D="Drawbridge" (plank which can be angled like a wall but is long enough to get across the moat, extends up to "Three tiles", AKA in actual function the length of the moat).
R=River.
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Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 21, 2011, 10:07:09 pm
Unless we follow my plan of putting a ramp with stick wall on top behind it. You'd risk at least giving yourself a concussion if you tried to flat out jump (then you'd slide into the moat, which may result in drowning), and to climb you'd have to go into the moat first....Code: (What I would imagine it looking like) [Select]M=Moat...
S=Reinforced sticks.
P=Clay ramps.
D="Drawbridge" (plank which can be angled like a wall but is long enough to get across the moat, extends up to "Three tiles", AKA in actual function the length of the moat).
R=River.
.=Etc.
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....MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM....
....MPPPPPPPPPPPPPM....
....MPSSSSSSSSSSSPM....
....MPSR.......RSPM....
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I think the moat is the next best thing to a wooden palisade, which I imagine is going to take even longer.
Better in my opinion, though, is the leaning-log watch tower I mentioned earlier in this thread. All we would need for that would be about five logs- three to lean against each other like the posts of a teepee,a fourth one to plane for the platform, and the fifth with branches intact for climbing up and down.
Think something like this, but taller:
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Of course, holing up in the tower against anything and everything would be a bad idea- we would want to keep men on the ground to guard the base- but at least we would have a safe place to rest and store small possessions, as well as a structure that could be beneficial in latter stages...
At any rate, chopping more logs is probably a good idea. Wood appears to be our most valuable resource at the moment.
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 21, 2011, 10:29:08 pm
the fisherman should go fish, the morning's the best time
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 21, 2011, 10:32:10 pm
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Chloe continues work on the ditch-moat, she feels thats soon she will understand the secrets behind digging!
As Picky chips the rocks into smaller rocks, she starts to gain a better understanding on how to work the rocks.
During Arete's lessons with Rolf she begins to understand how to work the clay.
Jaian, having experimented on the slime (finding that neither was very good for adhesive) decides to go find the Greater Land Jaians and attempt to earn their trust, taking with her some berries to try and earn their favour with.
Rex will return in one turn with his catch.
Weapons:
14x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
3x Pile of sticks
1x Pile of Leaves
13x Wet Bricks
25x Dry Bricks
Food:
7x Large red berries
1x Small red berries
Misc:
1x Bird nest(with 2 eggs)
Population:
5 Peasants
1 Woodcutter
1 Clayworker
1 Fisherman
Total: 8
Author Notes:
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Post by: Ultimuh on September 21, 2011, 10:34:09 pm
You never know if they can be easily enraged.
Post by: JacenHanLovesLegos on September 21, 2011, 10:37:06 pm
It appears slimes are very squishable.
Post by: Alternatecash on September 21, 2011, 10:37:40 pm
Post by: Neyvn on September 21, 2011, 10:44:46 pm
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 21, 2011, 10:58:23 pm
I think it would have been wiser to remove the trees to the right of the camp, just incase another stickman comes out of them...
This.
And save those logs for building something!
Post by: Ultimuh on September 21, 2011, 10:59:39 pm
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 21, 2011, 11:22:24 pm
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 21, 2011, 11:25:53 pm
DONT COOK THE EGGS
He's right. If we cook the eggs, come nightfall we will find ourselves under attack by some terrible, cholesterol-spitting shell minions.
Post by: Tarran on September 21, 2011, 11:36:51 pm
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 22, 2011, 12:57:26 am
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Arete is now a Clayworker! She can now make bricks and pots faster!
Chloe is now a Digger! She can now Dig dirt faster!
Picky is now a Miner! She is faster at breaking rocks with her pick and mining!
Village:
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After a long leveling montage everyone continues work. Rex returns with his catch and Hans demands to cook it claiming that if he sits still any longer he will die of bordom. The smell of cooking Rolphin fills the air.
Plains:
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Jaian arrives at the plains and finds several herds of Greater Land Jaians.
Weapons:
14x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
6x Pile of sticks
5x Pile of Leaves
15x Small Rocks
18x Wet Bricks
13x Semi-wet Bricks
25x Dry Bricks
Food:
1x Half cooked Rolphin
7x Large red berries
1x Small red berries
Misc:
1x Bird nest(with 2 eggs)
Population:
5 Peasants
1 Woodcutter
1 Clayworker
1 Fisherman
Total: 8
Author Notes:
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Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 22, 2011, 01:01:37 am
Post by: NRDL on September 22, 2011, 01:10:50 am
Have Jaian try to befriend the smaller herd. Also continue working on the moat.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 22, 2011, 01:13:02 am
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 22, 2011, 01:27:23 am
Continue chopping down trees, save the de-branching for those without an axe.
Debranching one lot of leaves without an axe takes one chromosonian one turn, with an axe you can debranch 2 lots of leaves in one turn. Because Franz is a skilled woodcutter she can debranch 3 lots of leaves in one turn so it's a more effective use of time to let her do it.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 22, 2011, 01:33:12 am
Post by: Tarran on September 22, 2011, 01:37:31 am
Brick to the sky.
Post by: Neyvn on September 22, 2011, 01:42:18 am
For one thing we could build a Kiln from them. Make drying the Brick go faster. PLUS make charcoal in there.
Making a Kiln would be the same as making an oven so after that we could even use it for cooking.
Suggested Method, Make a smallish square of bricks, pack them with clay, build them up to the knee, cover with a large flat stone (or chip one) pack the edges with clay build into a mound rise with more bricks, continue to a peak. Get a round lump of wood, notch a hole in the bottom, place over a hole at the top and bottom. BOOM Cooking Kiln...
Post by: NRDL on September 22, 2011, 01:47:20 am
Post by: Tarran on September 22, 2011, 01:48:50 am
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 22, 2011, 01:50:30 am
Post by: NRDL on September 22, 2011, 01:50:50 am
No. They aren't cooked yet. I'd imagine uncooked bricks being little more than wet dirt in strength.
Cook bricks first, using fire, then build wall around moat.
Post by: Alternatecash on September 22, 2011, 02:16:06 am
Post by: Neyvn on September 22, 2011, 02:22:42 am
Post by: Tarran on September 22, 2011, 02:24:41 am
Use the sundried bricks to build a kiln,production.Ummmmm...
Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun-dried_brick
They use a stiff mixture and let them dry in the sun for 25 days.
Yeah no. We're going to have to use wet bricks.
Post by: Azure Sepulchre on September 22, 2011, 02:37:57 am
Pile the surplus soil and clay dug out from the moat onto the right hand side of it to serve as an impromptu wall instead of using logs, and try flattening the soil walls when this is done to make them sheer, preventing the slimes/anything else from vaulting over them as easily as the logs. Since the logs work as an adequate - albeit crude - weapon against the slimes, roll them a small distance behind the soil mounds so they can be used to repel any slimes that return (after all, if we keep the logs right next to the moat and attempt to use them to squash the slimes again, all we'll end up doing is pushing the logs into the moat, providing a nice little walkway for anything that would like to cross).
Stockpile the bricks/broken stones in/around the shelter and campfire. Projectiles of any kind with a bit more blunt force behind them would be more useful than the spears, considering how resistant the slimes are to piercing weapons and how quickly they could be thrown even by some untrained peasant as opposed to the accuracy required for throwing a spear. We're also indulging in a great ol' bit of wishful thinking if we think stick-men and slimes were all we we're going to need to worry about (I mean, hell, how do we even know those are BIRD eggs? And even if they are, what KIND of bird? For all we know some slobbering monstrosity could emerge from them as easily as from the damn trees in the back garden of this hut).
Cast small, useless or surplus twigs or branches in a perimeter around the shelter*, to warn us in case anything attempts to approach that Lincoln isn't kind enough to draw several turns before it even becomes a threat. I daresay we cannot rely on the kindness of the artist forever, and forewarned is forearmed.
Also, for the love of God, get rid of those trees to the right of the hut before any others. Burn 'em if we have to. Hell, I'd prefer it if they were burned. There's always the possibility that the stick-men can walk out of trees that have already been cut down, too.
* Just noticed that this may have been a bit unclear. This is supposing that, if something were to approach the camp on foot, the noise it would make stomping through the twigs and branches could serve to alert us. Not only of approaching enemies at night, but of anyone (or anything) approaching during the day.
Post by: Alternatecash on September 22, 2011, 02:40:38 am
Post by: Tarran on September 22, 2011, 02:50:54 am
Also, for the love of God, get rid of those trees to the right of the hut before any others. Burn 'em if we have to. Hell, I'd prefer it if they were burned. There's always the possibility that the stick-men can walk out of trees that have already been cut down, too.This. So much this.
Post by: NRDL on September 22, 2011, 02:54:57 am
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 22, 2011, 04:03:50 am
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Rolf decides that these bricks are all well and good, but unless they are fired they won't be much use. Rolf begins to build a Kiln, Picky gives him a large flat stone to use in it's construction. Rex looks on since he currently has No Orders. The Rolphin has been cooked and Hans has seperated it into chunks for easier consumption.
Plains:
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Weapons:
14x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
6x Pile of sticks
5x Pile of Leaves
15x Small Rocks
8x Wet Bricks
18x Semi-wet Bricks
13x Moist Bricks
12x Dry Bricks
Food:
1x Half cooked Rolphin
7x Large red berries
1x Small red berries
Misc:
1x Bird nest(with 2 eggs)
Population:
5 Peasants
1 Woodcutter
1 Clayworker
1 Fisherman
Total: 8
Authors Notes:
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Post by: Tarran on September 22, 2011, 04:15:32 am
Also, Picky goes looking for Limestone around the area. Because we need to make mortar for the bricks. And from what I can tell, you can turn Limestone into Lime, and then into a Lime mortar.
Your all acting like you have to build an unstoppable fortress to survive the night in so I'm going to give you a hint:Cut down all the trees?
The best Defence is a good Offence.
Go as far west as possible until the mother of the slimes is found?
Really, that ain't a good enough hint.
Anyway, I think half the reason we're making defenses is because we all get a kick out of impenetrable defenses. At least, I know I am.
Post by: Alternatecash on September 22, 2011, 04:20:17 am
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 22, 2011, 04:26:53 am
Post by: micelus on September 22, 2011, 04:29:11 am
Have Jaian Ride the Land jian. Train it into a war mount. use spears as javlins. A spanish Jinete would make GREAT offence
Agree with this. Also create a pen/shelter for it.
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 22, 2011, 04:43:16 am
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 22, 2011, 05:32:02 am
Post by: NRDL on September 22, 2011, 06:13:07 am
Build the pen, but get two people to take spears and explore to the west
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 22, 2011, 06:49:48 am
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Post by: micelus on September 22, 2011, 06:53:37 am
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 22, 2011, 07:12:48 am
I agree that we should get some cloth and oil, but I also think we should get a saw.
This adds up to 7 yl.
If we sell 7 of our fire-hardened spears, we get 4.2 yl, and can make up the remaining 2.8yl by selling 7 wooden spears.
So buy 2 cloth, 2 oil and a saw with 7 fire-hardened and 7 regular spears
Post by: Hitty40 on September 22, 2011, 07:13:48 am
Post by: Neyvn on September 22, 2011, 07:15:14 am
Sell spears for these...
Also. Perhaps getting one Sword would keep them safe...
Perhaps selling fish for these. We can always fish for more...
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 22, 2011, 07:26:02 am
I'd like to know what you all think of this.
Edit: On the trading, most of the stuff you have now is fairly easy to obtain in the environment (like fish and spears) so don't be afraid to go a bit crazy when it comes to selling things like that.
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 22, 2011, 07:28:57 am
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 22, 2011, 07:42:01 am
You could also sell/rent houses to people and they would become permernant residents(they might move away if things get a little to crazy), these people wouldn't be under your direct control but you would be able to hire them to do things. Renting villagers would be more preferable to those who own their homes because they would be paying you, for example: You rent out a shop to a blacksmith, he sells things to the villagers (or travelers) and then he pays you rent. you could also have things like factories where you have several people employed to make shoes and you sell the shoes for a higher price then it took to create them, thus making a profit.
I guess this all leads into hiring a town militia, the more prosperous your village is the better equiped your militia can be. Then you can use that militia to defend the town or maybe even more sinister things like extortion of maybe even raiding parties (although that might make people a bit upset).
All of this means that once your village gets large enough your core villagers become more like the local council or the industrial barons rather then being the residents of the town.
Edit: ok that turned into more of a rant on how having a large town is going to work.
Post by: Heron TSG on September 22, 2011, 08:06:22 am
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 22, 2011, 08:16:21 am
>Henceforth, the currency shall be known as the Yollar.That works. Also how much oil and cloth is the trader carrying?
Post by: Sheb on September 22, 2011, 08:44:54 am
Sell 10 Rolphins pieces for two axes. Also ask the trader for some slime-slaying advice.
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 22, 2011, 09:26:44 am
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 22, 2011, 10:47:05 am
But that would be evil.
I think we should get the saw and another axe, to speed up our construction process. The axe can double as a weapon.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 22, 2011, 11:12:40 am
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 22, 2011, 11:41:01 am
I think we should get the saw and another axe, to speed up our construction process. The axe can double as a weapon.+1
Post by: [Cookie] on September 22, 2011, 11:52:19 am
+1I think we should get the saw and another axe, to speed up our construction process. The axe can double as a weapon.+1
We can make some planks with the saw and we can make some buildings with the planks.
(Unless we make a log cabin?)
Post by: adwarf on September 22, 2011, 02:38:27 pm
This, and Sell 10 Rolphin Pieces, and 6 Spears to earn some currency. Also request the merchant to send some of those who have no home in our direction as long as they aren't criminals.+1I think we should get the saw and another axe, to speed up our construction process. The axe can double as a weapon.+1
We can make some planks with the saw and we can make some buildings with the planks.
(Unless we make a log cabin?)
Post by: Ultimuh on September 22, 2011, 02:51:12 pm
This, and Sell 10 Rolphin Pieces, and 6 Spears to earn some currency. Also request the merchant to send some of those who have no home in our direction as long as they aren't criminals.+1I think we should get the saw and another axe, to speed up our construction process. The axe can double as a weapon.+1
We can make some planks with the saw and we can make some buildings with the planks.
(Unless we make a log cabin?)
I vote for this, all of it.
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 22, 2011, 03:19:47 pm
This, now we just wait for an update.This, and Sell 10 Rolphin Pieces, and 6 Spears to earn some currency. Also request the merchant to send some of those who have no home in our direction as long as they aren't criminals.+1I think we should get the saw and another axe, to speed up our construction process. The axe can double as a weapon.+1
We can make some planks with the saw and we can make some buildings with the planks.
(Unless we make a log cabin?)
I vote for this, all of it.
Post by: Tersr on September 22, 2011, 03:22:44 pm
Post by: adwarf on September 22, 2011, 03:26:51 pm
Wouldn't the price of the meat go up if it's fully cook?No time silence ! (Cringes at superior logic)
Post by: Ultimuh on September 22, 2011, 03:37:58 pm
Post by: Alternatecash on September 22, 2011, 04:11:05 pm
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 22, 2011, 04:14:20 pm
and if they betray that hope...We DO need some more meat in our diet...
Post by: Alternatecash on September 22, 2011, 04:21:48 pm
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 22, 2011, 04:24:12 pm
As long as we stay away from the brain and the liver, we should be relatively safe from Prion Disease. Not that I advocate cannibalism.I'm sure if you cook them well enough and flavor it with some orange slime it will be delicious and healthy.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 22, 2011, 05:23:16 pm
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 22, 2011, 05:36:32 pm
Give Hans the sword and shield so he may have VENGENCE For his wounds. sell everything we have except a few non hardened spears.
we can always get more food and what not and it will be even easier than yesterday because the chromians are getting more skilled. We shouldn't worry about the things we can replace. We can't make swords or axes yet so we should buy them. with two axes we should be ableto replenish our spears fairly easily. also can we sell the trader slime parts?
Post by: Draxis on September 22, 2011, 05:40:25 pm
This.This, now we just wait for an update.This, and Sell 10 Rolphin Pieces, and 6 Spears to earn some currency. Also request the merchant to send some of those who have no home in our direction as long as they aren't criminals.+1I think we should get the saw and another axe, to speed up our construction process. The axe can double as a weapon.+1
We can make some planks with the saw and we can make some buildings with the planks.
(Unless we make a log cabin?)
I vote for this, all of it.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 22, 2011, 06:32:39 pm
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8.4yl gained through sales.
0.4yl spent on services
6.0yl spent on purchases
2yl Profit.
2yl Balance
Everyone returns to their former jobs and Hans returns to the shelter to rest.
Han's cuts have partialy healed!
The kiln has been completed! Bricks can now be fired.
Weapons:
8x Wooden Spears 0.4yl
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears 0.6yl
Tools:
1x Hatchet 2yl
1x Hammer 2yl
1x Pickaxe 2yl
1x Shovel 2yl
Construction Materials:
6x Pile of sticks
5x Pile of Leaves
15x Small Rocks
8x Wet Bricks
18x Semi-wet Bricks
13x Moist Bricks
12x Dry Bricks
Food:
4x Cooked Rolphin Peices 0.6yl
7x Large red berries 0.4yl
1x Small red berries 0.2yl
2x Eggs 0.5yl
Population:
1 Digger
2 Clayworkers
1 Fisher
1 Woodcutter
1 Miner
2 Peasants
Total: 8
Author Notes:
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Post by: BunnyBob77 on September 22, 2011, 06:33:56 pm
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 22, 2011, 06:35:12 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 22, 2011, 06:36:19 pm
Post by: adwarf on September 22, 2011, 06:37:08 pm
Post by: Alternatecash on September 22, 2011, 06:37:34 pm
Post by: adwarf on September 22, 2011, 06:38:51 pm
Post by: JacenHanLovesLegos on September 22, 2011, 06:44:35 pm
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 22, 2011, 06:49:55 pm
Also get two people to pick up some fire-hardened spears and explore to the west.
Also I think we should have gotten some oil and cloth, but oh well.
Post by: Johnfalcon99977 on September 22, 2011, 06:49:57 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 22, 2011, 06:50:36 pm
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 22, 2011, 06:56:49 pm
Let's see if we can't capture a monster. I wannna EXPERIMENT
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 22, 2011, 06:58:31 pm
Use shovel, sticks and leaves to make pit trap in forestActually I think we should make some simple cage traps out of branches. The slimes seemed slow and easy to lead around. We could probably toss some bits of mostly-eaten fish (bones and whatnot) inside and capture some slimes for !Science!. And the fact that slimes have a thick outer membrane means they can't just ooze out of the cage (green ones at least) if we make the mesh tight enough.
Let's see if we can't capture a monster. I wannna EXPERIMENT
Post by: Tarran on September 22, 2011, 06:59:32 pm
We HAVE NO MORTAR.
Picky goes looking for limestone.
From what I know from Wikipedia, Limestone can be turned into lime. Which then can be turned into Lime Mortar.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 22, 2011, 07:10:06 pm
Train a peasant in the art of stabbing things with a spear.
I second this. If these monsters (and outsiders, for that matter) are going to be a regular occurrence, we are going to need start with a professional Sheriff.
Post by: Ultimuh on September 22, 2011, 07:13:31 pm
If we do things right, we might start a berry farm!
Who knows, maybe these berries could in the long run earn us some profit?
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 22, 2011, 07:16:33 pm
I have a suggestion, that we somehow gain more knowledge on these berries.
If we do things right, we might start a berry farm!
Who knows, maybe these berries could in the long run earn us some profit?
But the berries grow on trees... I wonder how long it would take to grow them?
It would be dandy if we could just build a boat or wagon, then go around uprooting and then planting them in our settlement.
Post by: Alternatecash on September 22, 2011, 07:21:53 pm
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 22, 2011, 07:23:59 pm
... I, for one, feel stupid. Why have we not constructed a boat?
we needed planks. MAKE planks
Post by: Neyvn on September 22, 2011, 07:37:06 pm
Set another to work bringing down the trees to the right.
Have our woodcutter take up the saw and begin cutting planks from the tree. Get him to cut a couple of round shields first and a door to the kiln to make it more effective.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 22, 2011, 07:38:21 pm
Seizure warning
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Village:
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Rolf begins to fire bricks using sticks as fuel for the flame while Arete keeps creating new ones.
Franz and Jaian work on getting the village a large supply of lumber for the construction of actual buildings.
Rex decides to go exploring in the forest, Hans insists that he has healed enough to come and that he wants to get his revenging on.
Picky goes to explore the hills in search of limestone for the creation of motar.
Chloe continues her work on the ditch-moat.
Weapons:
8x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Saw
2x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
8x Pile of sticks
10x Pile of Leaves
24x Small Rocks
8x Wet Bricks
11x Semi-wet Bricks
18x Moist Bricks
13x Dry Bricks
12x fired bricks
Food:
5x Large red berries
1x Small red berries
2x Eggs
Population:
1 Digger
2 Clayworkers
1 Fisher
1 Woodcutter
1 Miner
1 Builder
1 Peasants
Total: 8
Author Notes:
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Post by: Alternatecash on September 22, 2011, 07:42:05 pm
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 22, 2011, 07:44:16 pm
Post by: Tarran on September 22, 2011, 07:45:21 pm
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 22, 2011, 07:47:35 pm
Post by: JacenHanLovesLegos on September 22, 2011, 07:58:21 pm
I elect Hans to be a Dedicated Soldier He burns for VENGENCEThis.
Post by: Johnfalcon99977 on September 22, 2011, 08:38:26 pm
I elect Hans to be a Dedicated Soldier He burns for VENGENCE
So your going to make the injured guy who got nearly beat to death by sticks as the man who will protect us?
I think it will be better to wait for those guys the Merchant sent to draft into some kind of milita.
Post by: adwarf on September 22, 2011, 08:44:28 pm
This.I elect Hans to be a Dedicated Soldier He burns for VENGENCEThis.
Post by: Ultimuh on September 22, 2011, 08:48:50 pm
This.I elect Hans to be a Dedicated Soldier He burns for VENGENCEThis.
The creativity in these two posts above astounds me. :o
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 22, 2011, 08:49:29 pm
Then you have poor creativity.This.I elect Hans to be a Dedicated Soldier He burns for VENGENCEThis.
The creativity in these two posts above me astounds me. :o
Post by: Ultimuh on September 22, 2011, 08:52:13 pm
Then you have poor creativity.This.I elect Hans to be a Dedicated Soldier He burns for VENGENCEThis.
The creativity in these two posts above me astounds me. :o
Was being sarcastic. :P
edit: Aw geez.. look at what you did.. made me point out the obvious again. :P
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 22, 2011, 08:56:55 pm
There Shall Be No Quarter!
He SHALL protect his People
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 22, 2011, 08:57:53 pm
There Shall Be No Quarter!I have a qaurter on my desk.
Post by: adwarf on September 22, 2011, 08:58:05 pm
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Post by: Neyvn on September 22, 2011, 09:47:18 pm
How bout a fifth, seeing as Australia don't have quarters as we have 5c, 10c, 20c, 50c, $1, $2 coins...There Shall Be No Quarter!I have a qaurter on my desk.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 22, 2011, 09:49:33 pm
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Forest:
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Ravine:
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Weapons:
8x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Saw
2x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
5x Planks
12x Pile of sticks
15x Pile of Leaves
24x Small Rocks
7x Wet Bricks
8x Semi-wet Bricks
11x Moist Bricks
18x Dry Bricks
25x Fired bricks
Food:
5x Large red berries
1x Small red berries
2x Eggs
Population:
1 Digger
2 Clayworkers
1 Fisher
1 Woodcutter
1 Miner
1 Builder
1 Peasants
Total: 8
Author Notes:
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Post by: Pandarsenic on September 22, 2011, 09:51:03 pm
Hans and Rex should ascend the building.
Post by: Neyvn on September 22, 2011, 09:51:24 pm
Post by: Shootandrun on September 22, 2011, 09:52:19 pm
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 22, 2011, 09:53:34 pm
Also Picky should start breaking up one of the limestone rocks.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 22, 2011, 09:57:23 pm
Is that coal in those boulders??? Black squiggly lines...
No. I put the lines there because they looked really plain without them.
Post by: Tarran on September 22, 2011, 10:02:25 pm
Post by: JacenHanLovesLegos on September 22, 2011, 10:08:43 pm
Make some bins or something out of that new wood.
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 22, 2011, 10:10:40 pm
Post by: Alternatecash on September 22, 2011, 10:14:09 pm
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 22, 2011, 10:29:00 pm
Map:
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Post by: Ultimuh on September 22, 2011, 10:42:29 pm
Have Hans practice the use with his weapon as they explore the ruins.
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 22, 2011, 10:59:37 pm
How bout a fifth, seeing as Australia don't have quarters as we have 5c, 10c, 20c, 50c, $1, $2 coins...There Shall Be No Quarter!I have a qaurter on my desk.
Don't forget our brightly coloured plastic monopoly money! ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_quarter in case no knows what i meant.
Post by: Neyvn on September 22, 2011, 11:20:19 pm
He made a joke... And I carried it on...How bout a fifth, seeing as Australia don't have quarters as we have 5c, 10c, 20c, 50c, $1, $2 coins...There Shall Be No Quarter!I have a qaurter on my desk.
Don't forget our brightly coloured plastic monopoly money! ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_quarter in case no knows what i meant.
We knew what you ment...
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 22, 2011, 11:22:01 pm
He made a joke... And I carried it on...How bout a fifth, seeing as Australia don't have quarters as we have 5c, 10c, 20c, 50c, $1, $2 coins...There Shall Be No Quarter!I have a qaurter on my desk.
Don't forget our brightly coloured plastic monopoly money! ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_quarter in case no knows what i meant.
We knew what you ment...
But did you know it was a war crime? Hans is taking thing a tad to far. But then he is wearing the Skins of fallen enemies so we shouldn't be surprised.
Post by: Ultimuh on September 22, 2011, 11:26:25 pm
He made a joke... And I carried it on...How bout a fifth, seeing as Australia don't have quarters as we have 5c, 10c, 20c, 50c, $1, $2 coins...There Shall Be No Quarter!I have a qaurter on my desk.
Don't forget our brightly coloured plastic monopoly money! ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_quarter in case no knows what i meant.
We knew what you ment...
But did you know it was a war crime? Hans is taking thing a tad to far.
War..crime? Whut? This is DF Forums, lad.
The only war crime if ye be eatin Dwarves after they be slain.
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 22, 2011, 11:48:19 pm
Post by: Ultimuh on September 22, 2011, 11:59:04 pm
... How do they taste roasted?
:o
We got a disguised Elf here!
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 23, 2011, 12:04:41 am
No, hes specifying how they taste dipped in magma, obviously a dwarf... How do they taste roasted?
:o
We got a disguised Elf here!
Post by: Ultimuh on September 23, 2011, 12:08:29 am
No, hes specifying how they taste dipped in magma, obviously a dwarf... How do they taste roasted?
:o
We got a disguised Elf here!
A Dwarf eating another dwarf? :o How appaling!
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 23, 2011, 12:12:57 am
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 23, 2011, 12:18:32 am
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Ravine:
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Forest:
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The book appears to be a very old journel, It is heavily water damaged from being exposed to the environment and bares no remarkable features other then the name inscribed on it's cover: "Ragnar"
Rex flips to the latest readable entry and reads it:
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Weapons:
8x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Saw
2x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
7x Planks
12x Pile of sticks
15x Pile of Leaves
24x Small Rocks
8x Semi-wet Bricks
8x Moist Bricks
11x Dry Bricks
37x Fired bricks
Food:
5x Large red berries
1x Small red berries
2x Eggs
Population:
1 Digger
2 Clayworkers
1 Fisher
1 Woodcutter
1 Miner
1 Builder
1 Peasants
Total: 8
Author Notes:
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Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 23, 2011, 12:26:05 am
Post by: Neyvn on September 23, 2011, 12:38:31 am
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 23, 2011, 12:40:22 am
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 23, 2011, 01:41:02 am
Will the greater land jaian be safe from the night creatures
Place eggs near kiln so they get warm enough to hatch
can we milk the jaian? we need buckets.
Make bucket out of planks
Post by: Tarran on September 23, 2011, 01:46:29 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 23, 2011, 02:04:48 am
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 23, 2011, 02:07:40 am
Using tough grass or twigs and broad leafs, fashion a few make-shift slings that can be used to hurl Picky's stones.
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 23, 2011, 02:32:51 am
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 23, 2011, 02:42:35 am
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Ravine:
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Forest:
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There is also an small inquisitive mammal watching them them from the corner.
Weapons:
8x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Saw
2x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
12x Planks
12x Pile of sticks
15x Pile of Leaves
24x Small Rocks
8x Moist Bricks
8x Dry Bricks
48x Fired bricks
Food:
5x Large red berries
1x Small red berries
2x Eggs
Population:
1 Digger
2 Clayworkers
1 Fisher
1 Woodcutter
1 Miner
1 Builder
4 Peasants
Total: 8
Authors Notes:
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Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 23, 2011, 02:48:18 am
Try to befriend the small mammal and get back to the village to report the find.
With the newcomers:
Have them pick some berries to increase our stocks of food.
Post by: micelus on September 23, 2011, 02:49:00 am
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 23, 2011, 02:51:25 am
Have the workers bring pots to village. Have Hans Stand watch over them to protect them from forest beasts and the contents of the pots from greedy shiftless worker hands.
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 23, 2011, 02:51:47 am
Name the small furry creature Cellerrexhans.
this one seems safe to adopt\eat. take with us
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 23, 2011, 03:17:28 am
Name the small furry creature Cellerhans.
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 23, 2011, 03:25:45 am
+1Name the small furry creature Cellerhans.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 23, 2011, 03:38:53 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 23, 2011, 03:46:53 am
...You guys think there's enough slime left to make him his own little coat..?Absolutely.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 23, 2011, 03:48:07 am
...You guys think there's enough slime left to make him his own little coat..?
Little coat and a hat.
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 23, 2011, 03:50:48 am
DO IT...You guys think there's enough slime left to make him his own little coat..?
Little coat and a hat.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 23, 2011, 03:54:53 am
Post by: Sheb on September 23, 2011, 03:58:57 am
We should get more Greater Jiant as well, so as to breed them.
Post by: Alternatecash on September 23, 2011, 04:01:49 am
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 23, 2011, 04:58:21 am
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Village:
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Picky is returning with the limestone rock she has found.
Weapons:
8x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Saw
2x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
17x Planks
17x Pile of sticks
20x Pile of Leaves
24x Small Rocks
8x Dry Bricks
56x Fired bricks
Food:
5x Large red berries
1x Small red berries
2x Eggs
Population:
1 Digger
2 Clayworkers
1 Fisher
1 Woodcutter
1 Miner
1 Builder
4 Peasants
Total: 8
Author Notes:
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Post by: Tarran on September 23, 2011, 05:18:04 am
Picky will break the limestone into fine pieces. -Reading for baking.
Next step: Bake the bucket.
Then: Bake the lime.
Finally: Mix. Thar be mortar.
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 23, 2011, 05:25:55 am
Post by: ed boy on September 23, 2011, 05:28:31 am
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 23, 2011, 05:35:52 am
As for strategy I think we Figure out What we should do About tRading. What are we going to Sell? Are we GOing to make THings specicifly to Sell Or will we Give the Trader our eXcess Goods that we Do use. (like Our Spears and Such.) Also What Buildings we We make Next and Where will we Place them.
Post by: Johnfalcon99977 on September 23, 2011, 06:43:54 am
One of the male immigrants will be named Leon.
Post by: adwarf on September 23, 2011, 06:44:24 am
for sleeping, and guards as last time, but we need to pull the plank bridge up, and place them one on top of another, side on top of side, to form an easy to remove gate.
Ravine Plans:
After we have a good supply of planks, and 1, or 2 more picks I suggest we expand up here with 1, or 2 huts, and a simple wall to begin with. This will provide protection, and sleeping quarters for our miners who we will use to begin mining operations in the cliff slide gathering from the mine stone, and other minerals we can make stuff of, build with, or maybe trade.
Trade Goods:
I Think for here we should sell whatever spare Rolphin we have on us, and as much Greater Land Jaian milk(?) we can make, and put into buckets before the trader arrives. We could also make some stylish Slime Gel clothing, and sell them to the trader for a nice penny (Hopefully), but our best bet for money would have to be the mine I was planning in the above section.
Post by: Johnfalcon99977 on September 23, 2011, 06:46:21 am
Post by: Shootandrun on September 23, 2011, 06:54:09 am
Post by: BunnyBob77 on September 23, 2011, 06:56:24 am
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 23, 2011, 07:09:15 am
Post by: QuakeIV on September 23, 2011, 08:53:54 am
lolboldface
Post by: JacenHanLovesLegos on September 23, 2011, 08:56:33 am
Post by: Neyvn on September 23, 2011, 09:33:19 am
Cut four rounded planks (cut across the log not down it). Take a strong thin part of the upper tree, attach one to two of each wheel, Make a bed and attach it to the axles boom instant cart...
I still also say uprooting one of the berry bushes and planting them inside the moat would be a wise move, just in case you know...
Post by: [Cookie] on September 23, 2011, 09:43:14 am
Post by: kaian-a-coel on September 23, 2011, 12:13:30 pm
I think it is better to upgrade New Hope before thinking about outpost.
Also plant berry-trees inside the moat.
One of the newcomers should be trained as a fisherman. Fishermen can double as spearthrower in case of fighting.
Post by: Ultimuh on September 23, 2011, 12:15:18 pm
no, dismantle it and scavenge all materials we can. Reconstruct better houses inside of the village.
I think it is better to upgrade New Hope before thinking about outpost.
Also plant berry-trees inside the moat.
One of the newcomers should be trained as a fisherman. Fishermen can double as spearthrower in case of fighting.
I can agree with this.
And about Hans little friend.. I fear for anyone who tries to harm it.
We might have a disaster waiting to happen.
Post by: Alternatecash on September 23, 2011, 01:21:30 pm
dismantle it and scavenge all materials we can.This.
Also plant berry-trees inside the moat.
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 23, 2011, 01:26:45 pm
dismantle it and scavenge all materials we can.This.
Also plant berry-trees inside the moat.
Post by: Hitty40 on September 23, 2011, 01:28:27 pm
dismantle it and scavenge all materials we can.This.
Also plant berry-trees inside the moat.
This.
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 23, 2011, 01:29:23 pm
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 23, 2011, 01:38:43 pm
- Additional huts in the main camp
- Clay pot, but with a slot where a wooden stick can be slipped through width-wise, making it easier to carry
- Drafting one of the three newcomers into the militia
- Slime clothing as our trademark good for the time being
Post by: [Cookie] on September 23, 2011, 01:42:31 pm
no, dismantle it and scavenge all materials we can. Reconstruct better houses inside of the village.I take back mine,
I think it is better to upgrade New Hope before thinking about outpost.
Also plant berry-trees inside the moat.
One of the newcomers should be trained as a fisherman. Fishermen can double as spearthrower in case of fighting.
this.
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 23, 2011, 01:44:11 pm
Post by: adwarf on September 23, 2011, 02:02:57 pm
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 23, 2011, 06:20:24 pm
Post by: adwarf on September 23, 2011, 06:57:19 pm
So then why did we need it now? is it not better to think about the coming night, than to plan so far ahead into the future in such detail? what if our situation changes? what work have you lost completing a plan that is now irrelevant?He said plan, so I planned, and we will need it as some time soon we will have to stop relying totally on trees to supply us with building materials, and whats better than stone the most abundant things we have access to.
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 23, 2011, 07:04:33 pm
Post by: adwarf on September 23, 2011, 07:11:40 pm
I believe he mean plan for the coming night.Then sorry for planning, so far ahead, but we still need to be thinking about it.
Post by: Shootandrun on September 23, 2011, 07:13:57 pm
-The moat and the log walls will be finished
-We will have some kind of agriculture going
-We will have at least one or to buildings (not shelters made with sticks and leaves, buildings!)
We'll think about long term projects.
Post by: adwarf on September 23, 2011, 07:23:12 pm
OnceWhich makes me think anyone have an idea of what we could grow ? I know those herbs we got might be a possibility, but I think the berries will be to hard, and take to long to grow.
-The moat and the log walls will be finished
-We will have some kind of agriculture going
-We will have at least one or to buildings (not shelters made with sticks and leaves, buildings!)
We'll think about long term projects.
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 23, 2011, 07:31:23 pm
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 23, 2011, 08:23:11 pm
Post by: adwarf on September 23, 2011, 08:27:13 pm
What about the jaians? I Mean we can tame them but Evil lincon said they would be harder to tame now. Hunting them may bring more food in faster but would probaly make them harder to tame if they become scared of us. I think if we can tame a few more we should be able to use to drag trees and stone. which is going to be neccesary after we cut down all the immediate trees and star mining in earnest.I think Jaians are like Chromsians in the fact that they can gain specialties such as Pack Jaians which would make them quite effective in hauling, so I agree.
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 23, 2011, 08:32:25 pm
What about the jaians? I Mean we can tame them but Evil lincon said they would be harder to tame now. Hunting them may bring more food in faster but would probaly make them harder to tame if they become scared of us. I think if we can tame a few more we should be able to use to drag trees and stone. which is going to be neccesary after we cut down all the immediate trees and star mining in earnest.I think Jaians are like Chromsians in the fact that they can gain specialties such as Pack Jaians which would make them quite effective in hauling, so I agree.
But then a thought occured LEATHER we need leather don't we. To make clothes and ropes and what not.
Post by: adwarf on September 23, 2011, 08:35:19 pm
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 23, 2011, 10:52:04 pm
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 23, 2011, 11:16:41 pm
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 24, 2011, 12:53:43 am
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It's a very sturdy fortification, and seems easy enough to erect. I am unsure if we should even complete and more permanent shelter before having some sort of wall in place... especially since we anticipate new arrivals.
Post by: Tarran on September 24, 2011, 01:16:59 am
Palisade is for elves.
Brickade is for Chrome-whateverthehellwe'venamedthems.
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 24, 2011, 02:41:10 am
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 24, 2011, 03:25:50 am
Village:
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Weapons:
8x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Saw
2x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
37x Planks
25x Pile of sticks
28x Pile of Leaves
24x Small Rocks
64x Fired bricks
Food:
26x Berries
12x Uncooked Rolphin
2x Eggs
15x Herbs
Population:
1 Digger
2 Clayworkers
1 Fisher
1 Woodcutter
1 Miner
1 Builder
4 Peasants
Total: 8
5 turns until nightfall
Author Notes:
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Post by: Tarran on September 24, 2011, 03:32:10 am
Guys, we have both bricks and wood now. What should we do with each? I'm leaning towards using the bricks in wall construction.
Regardless, Picky, go get more limestone.
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 24, 2011, 03:40:31 am
Post by: Tarran on September 24, 2011, 03:47:32 am
It's not like the world would end from building it partially out of bricks and the rest out of wood until we get more bricks...
I'm not sure about using bricks for houses. Making houses stronger than your defenses is... well... you get my point, right?
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 24, 2011, 03:51:58 am
Feed tame Jaian, if needed.
Would sharpening rocks be worth it? I recall someone earlier mentioning sticking sharp rocks onto sticks with slime gel.
In any case, I have calculated that at three meals a day, we have less than a days food.
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 24, 2011, 03:54:48 am
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 24, 2011, 03:56:57 am
Which part of the wall is/would be weak, however?
Feed tame Jaian, if needed.
Would sharpening rocks be worth it? I recall someone earlier mentioning sticking sharp rocks onto sticks with slime gel.
In any case, I have calculated that at three meals a day, we have less than a days food.
They only need breakfast and dinner. Thats really just to make things easier to keep track of. (Lunch may be required when I decide how many turns are in a day though)
Post by: Tarran on September 24, 2011, 04:03:40 am
Which part of the wall is/would be weak, however?Hmmmm... perhaps 'weak' was the wrong word.
"Place we expect to be assaulted the most" would be a better term. Like, the wall facing the direction of where our enemies will come from (say, the forest).
Even if we don't expect a place to get assaulted more, I'm sure we all can agree that making a section of the wall stronger while the rest are weaker is better than leaving the entire wall weak, right?
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 24, 2011, 04:04:36 am
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 24, 2011, 04:10:35 am
Do we have any set aside for migrants/temp workers?
Dow we have plan for temp workers?
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 24, 2011, 04:13:04 am
Edit: i have no idea about how much food we get or produce. and we should worry about immigrants after the whole survive the terrors of ze night.
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 24, 2011, 04:17:40 am
Those three grey chromes in the middle seem pretty busy, lets get them Assembling stone tipped spears, assembly-line style, one sharpenning, one glueing, one gathering materials for it
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 24, 2011, 04:25:26 am
So who isnt busy then?
Those three grey chromes in the middle seem pretty busy, lets get them Assembling stone tipped spears, assembly-line style, one sharpenning, one glueing, one gathering materials for it
we don't have glue. the green slime is non-adhesive non-flammeble and of mold-like compisition IIRC
I think you can make glue out of fish scales but it takes a while.
http://www.ehow.com/how_4793957_glue-fish-scales.html (http://www.ehow.com/how_4793957_glue-fish-scales.html)
Post by: Tarran on September 24, 2011, 04:35:09 am
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 24, 2011, 04:39:23 am
yep here we are http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birdlime (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birdlime)
Huh on reading that it actualy has nothing to do with limestone in any way or function so i guess we can't make glue out of limeston then.
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 24, 2011, 04:43:06 am
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 24, 2011, 04:47:57 am
Cut up the membrane of the green ones, wet it, wrap it around the spears and rocks pretty tight, and lash it on, then let it dry?
That might work if it's any thing like sinew
So Sharpen stones then attach to sticks using green slime skin
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 24, 2011, 04:54:45 am
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 24, 2011, 06:16:12 am
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 24, 2011, 06:27:02 am
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 24, 2011, 06:31:07 am
Edit: I'll be heading to bed now.
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 24, 2011, 07:00:01 am
Hans should stab things for his thirst for Retribution is unquenchable. Have the digger continue digging moat. have 3 of the peasants build a wall using any resources they can except the bricks and some planks which shall be used to fortify the bridge. Have the builder move the wester bridge to the north and use bricks and planks to make a bridge/gate house. have the clay workers mave some bowl/buckets/pots one molds the receptecle and the other fires it in the kiln. the fisherman should catch another fish. the last peasant should build a smoke house out of sticks clay and leaves
Post by: BunnyBob77 on September 24, 2011, 07:00:32 am
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 24, 2011, 07:39:37 am
I propose one of the idle peasants start brewing alcohol. It's useful to make fire and it's tasty to drink.
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 24, 2011, 07:46:46 am
Why haven't we tried to brew berry-based alcohol yet?
I propose one of the idle peasants start brewing alcohol. It's useful to make fire and it's tasty to drink.
brew in what? we don't have any pots barrels or boilers. we dont even Have a stovetop
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 24, 2011, 07:50:03 am
We have pots sitting all over the place now, and we have a kiln which could easily heat them or they could be set over the fire.Why haven't we tried to brew berry-based alcohol yet?
I propose one of the idle peasants start brewing alcohol. It's useful to make fire and it's tasty to drink.
brew in what? we don't have any pots barrels or boilers. we dont even Have a stovetop
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 24, 2011, 07:50:12 am
Post by: kaian-a-coel on September 24, 2011, 07:54:51 am
And make a true house out of planks and some bricks. With dirt ground and leave beds. Perhaps two houses, with four to six places each?
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 24, 2011, 07:59:23 am
Post by: Ultimuh on September 24, 2011, 12:00:01 pm
If it melts and harden we can definitaly use as a kind of glue.
Hans should stab things for his thirst for Retribution is unquenchable. Have the digger continue digging moat. have 3 of the peasants build a wall using any resources they can except the bricks and some planks which shall be used to fortify the bridge. Have the builder move the wester bridge to the north and use bricks and planks to make a bridge/gate house. have the clay workers mave some bowl/buckets/pots one molds the receptecle and the other fires it in the kiln. the fisherman should catch another fish. the last peasant should build a smoke house out of sticks clay and leaves
I think his thirst for vengeance has mellowed down a bit since he met his new friend.
But should anything happen to his little buddy, it might be reignited and skyrocket.
Post by: QuakeIV on September 24, 2011, 12:35:36 pm
If there is any time left after that they should harvest all of the available berries outside of the fortress, then withdraw the plank bridges for the night.
The guys with spears should be organized into watches.
Post by: Armok on September 24, 2011, 12:36:02 pm
Post by: Tarran on September 24, 2011, 01:03:53 pm
If it melts and harden we can definitaly use as a kind of glue.I'm going with this minus the retribution part.
Hans should stab things for his thirst for Retribution is unquenchable. Have the digger continue digging moat. have 3 of the peasants build a wall using any resources they can except the bricks and some planks which shall be used to fortify the bridge. Have the builder move the wester bridge to the north and use bricks and planks to make a bridge/gate house. have the clay workers mave some bowl/buckets/pots one molds the receptecle and the other fires it in the kiln. the fisherman should catch another fish. the last peasant should build a smoke house out of sticks clay and leaves
I suggest to make a crude wall out of the dirt we have. rather than being piled uselessly in the middle of the camp, put it around.So you're saying that using our strongest materials on a non-defensive house is better than using it on a wall.
And make a true house out of planks and some bricks. With dirt ground and leave beds. Perhaps two houses, with four to six places each?
...
No. Lincoln, If Vetos are allowed, I'll Veto this.
Post by: QuakeIV on September 24, 2011, 02:16:53 pm
Dirt is also an excellent wall making material, as if set up properly it cannot be broken down, burned, or collapse.
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 24, 2011, 02:40:34 pm
Well its not like we can build houses out of dirt.Yes we can. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rammed_earth)
Post by: Johnfalcon99977 on September 24, 2011, 02:46:32 pm
Well its not like we can build houses out of dirt.
Settlers in the great plains made houses out of dirt all the time.
Post by: Ultimuh on September 24, 2011, 02:49:14 pm
Post by: QuakeIV on September 24, 2011, 03:42:50 pm
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 24, 2011, 05:06:47 pm
Post by: BunnyBob77 on September 24, 2011, 05:47:10 pm
Post by: Shootandrun on September 24, 2011, 05:50:00 pm
Post by: Tarran on September 24, 2011, 06:02:26 pm
Post by: Ultimuh on September 24, 2011, 06:11:10 pm
I'm not sure about making underground houses when we're so close to a river and a moat. I'm no expert, but I'd imagine it being pretty wet down there.
Indeed it would.
However I support the idea of mud/dirt houses,
At least until better materials become more abundant and have time for building them.
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 24, 2011, 06:49:18 pm
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 24, 2011, 06:55:50 pm
Rex should gather more fish.
Franz should keep cutting down trees.
Chloe should keep digging the moat.
Arete, Hans, Picky, Rolf and the workers don't have anything to do and i'm not sure if you want to keep Jaian sawing logs so i need some feedback on those issues.
Post by: JacenHanLovesLegos on September 24, 2011, 06:57:33 pm
Post by: adwarf on September 24, 2011, 06:59:24 pm
This.If it melts and harden we can definitaly use as a kind of glue.I'm going with this minus the retribution part.
Hans should stab things for his thirst for Retribution is unquenchable. Have the digger continue digging moat. have 3 of the peasants build a wall using any resources they can except the bricks and some planks which shall be used to fortify the bridge. Have the builder move the wester bridge to the north and use bricks and planks to make a bridge/gate house. have the clay workers mave some bowl/buckets/pots one molds the receptecle and the other fires it in the kiln. the fisherman should catch another fish. the last peasant should build a smoke house out of sticks clay and leaves
Post by: Shootandrun on September 24, 2011, 07:04:42 pm
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 24, 2011, 07:34:16 pm
ThisThis.If it melts and harden we can definitaly use as a kind of glue.I'm going with this minus the retribution part.
Hans should stab things for his thirst for Retribution is unquenchable. Have the digger continue digging moat. have 3 of the peasants build a wall using any resources they can except the bricks and some planks which shall be used to fortify the bridge. Have the builder move the wester bridge to the north and use bricks and planks to make a bridge/gate house. have the clay workers mave some bowl/buckets/pots one molds the receptecle and the other fires it in the kiln. the fisherman should catch another fish. the last peasant should build a smoke house out of sticks clay and leaves
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 24, 2011, 07:43:17 pm
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Hans declares himself sherif on the grounds that he is the only one that has a badass enough scar and begins to assemble a practice dummy with the intention of whipping the workers into a militia.
Weapons:
8x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Saw
2x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
38x Planks
25x Pile of sticks
28x Pile of Leaves
24x Small Rocks
64x Fired bricks
Food:
26x Berries
12x Uncooked Rolphin
2x Eggs
15x Herbs
Misc:
5 empty pots
1 clay resepticle
Population:
1 Digger
2 Clayworkers
1 Fisher
1 Woodcutter
1 Miner
1 Builder
4 Peasants
Total: 8
Author Notes:
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Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 24, 2011, 07:47:15 pm
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 24, 2011, 07:52:58 pm
Post by: QuakeIV on September 24, 2011, 07:55:32 pm
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRGgcNc2GWDcDB7PUsLjXkJ34GEjKc10Jwipl0dFWKEDaMZVIqMKhwYxyHPYw)
EDIT: also, lets just go with the dirt being in a huge pile off screen to the right, as the shovel person was thoughtful enough to put it all in once place.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 24, 2011, 08:19:58 pm
Post by: adwarf on September 24, 2011, 08:21:25 pm
Post by: Ultimuh on September 24, 2011, 08:24:17 pm
Thats Franz cutting down the tree guys, not something crazy.
You really should add an image depicting Franz facepalming to their comments. :P
edit: and while youre at it, we should use that image every time someone posts something REALLY dumb in this thread.
Post by: Hitty40 on September 24, 2011, 08:44:36 pm
Thats Franz cutting down the tree guys, not something crazy.
You really should add an image depicting Franz facepalming to their comments. :P
edit: and while youre at it, we should use that image every time someone posts something REALLY dumb in this thread.
I support this.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 24, 2011, 09:11:53 pm
Because the comic relief would help ease everyone's frazzled nerves after last night's attack, and I really want to see you draw that.
Post by: Tarran on September 24, 2011, 10:05:55 pm
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 24, 2011, 10:11:51 pm
Upon butchering and cooking the Rolphin, Rolf should keep the fish's head and entertain his companions with a skilled bit of fireside puppeteering over dinner, maybe try to impress ditch-digger Chloe.
Because the comic relief would help ease everyone's frazzled nerves after last night's attack, and I really want to see you draw that.
Continue as last turn.These.
Post by: Hitty40 on September 24, 2011, 10:13:32 pm
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 24, 2011, 10:46:21 pm
Create a stockpile for all the items lying around.This
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 24, 2011, 11:07:42 pm
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Work continues. Hans has finished the dummy and is now testing it out by giving it a savage beating. Rolf sorted the cricks and pots into neat piles while he was waiting for the fireing process to finish, and he put the berries all into a pot because he was sick of them being everywhere.
Weapons:
8x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Saw
2x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
35x Planks
25x Pile of sticks
28x Pile of Leaves
24x Small Rocks
64x Fired bricks
Food:
26x Berries
12x Uncooked Rolphin
2x Eggs
15x Herbs
Misc:
2x Pots of blue liquid
2x Pots of oil
5x empty pots
2x clay resepticle
Population:
1 Digger
2 Clayworkers
1 Fisher
1 Woodcutter
1 Miner
1 Builder
4 Peasants
Total: 8
3 Turns until Nightfall
Authors Notes:
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Post by: Hitty40 on September 24, 2011, 11:11:26 pm
Post by: Coolnesstod on September 24, 2011, 11:12:58 pm
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 24, 2011, 11:14:18 pm
Yes, we really have access to firearms propellant
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 24, 2011, 11:31:30 pm
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 25, 2011, 02:52:10 am
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 25, 2011, 03:02:09 am
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Hans has created the Hansgun, thats right folks....
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The following is the actual update:
Village:
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Dusk will soon be upon the village, everyone works hard at their jobs to prepare for the coming night... except Hans who is daydreaming about something, it's probabley badass though and totaly worth it.
Rolf and Arete begin to create bricks again because the clay bowl things they have made appear to have no purpose yet. They have also developed warm feelings for eachother due to working together for so long.
Weapons:
8x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Saw
2x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
35x Planks
25x Pile of sticks
28x Pile of Leaves
24x Small Rocks
64x Fired bricks
Food:
26x Berries
12x Uncooked Rolphin
2x Eggs
15x Herbs
Misc:
2x Pots of blue liquid
2x Pots of oil
5x empty pots
2x clay resepticle
Population:
1 Digger
2 Clayworkers
1 Fisher
1 Woodcutter
1 Miner
1 Builder
4 Peasants
Total: 8
2 Turns until Nightfall
Author Notes:
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Post by: Luke_Prowler on September 25, 2011, 03:05:31 am
Also, Franz and Jaian should really stop cutting down trees and instead drag the stuff they've already got into the base.
Post by: Tarran on September 25, 2011, 03:10:46 am
So many people voted for it two updates ago.
Post by: The Merchant Of Menace on September 25, 2011, 03:13:33 am
Not much good having half a strong wall, is there?
Post by: Tarran on September 25, 2011, 03:17:08 am
Half a wall equals a halved area we have to defend.
Half an area to defend equals twice as many people to defend the area that needs defending.
Which means, obviously, less potential casualties.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 25, 2011, 03:18:04 am
ThisThis.If it melts and harden we can definitaly use as a kind of glue.I'm going with this minus the retribution part.
Hans should stab things for his thirst for Retribution is unquenchable. Have the digger continue digging moat. have 3 of the peasants build a wall using any resources they can except the bricks and some planks which shall be used to fortify the bridge. Have the builder move the wester bridge to the north and use bricks and planks to make a bridge/gate house. have the clay workers mave some bowl/buckets/pots one molds the receptecle and the other fires it in the kiln. the fisherman should catch another fish. the last peasant should build a smoke house out of sticks clay and leaves
It said except the bricks and some planks and in my tired state I diddn't see the some part so i went with the dirt because there is so much of it around and it's probabley good enough for a temp wall anyway.
Post by: The Merchant Of Menace on September 25, 2011, 03:19:10 am
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 25, 2011, 03:24:25 am
Post by: Tarran on September 25, 2011, 03:29:00 am
And if it gets breached, we could also have strong, well built, houses to fall back to and defend.What is the point of a defensive wall if it's made out of something crappier than a house?
Why not make the house the wall instead?
Walls should be made out of the strongest material in my opinion. Because if something can break down a wall wall made out of our strongest material, NOTHING ELSE WILL STOP IT. Whereas if we made the wall out of a poorer material, and something small and weak could break it but not the bricks, we'd be trapped in our houses when we could've been out in our fortified area.
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But we don't have no wall, we have a dirt wall.The dirt wall is crappy. That's not what we were talking about, were we?
We were talking about what if theoretically we used bricks and wood for half wall. Not about our current wall.
Post by: Luke_Prowler on September 25, 2011, 03:30:18 am
Post by: Tarran on September 25, 2011, 03:33:27 am
But we certainly had time to make a pretty darn decent part of it.
I mean, it's not like we're wasting our time building something we plan to finish shortly a day from now, right?
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 25, 2011, 03:39:21 am
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 25, 2011, 04:01:33 am
Walls should be made out of the strongest material in my opinion. Because if something can break down a wall wall made out of our strongest material, NOTHING ELSE WILL STOP IT.
Weigh the benefits with the costs. How much of that brick wall could we have finished with our limited manpower and resources, how much more defensible would that actually have made our encampment, and how far back would using those bricks, which could be used for something else down the line put us?
First of all, 64 regular-sized little bricks? Anything with the intelligence of a house spider would just walk around them if we stacked them all in one place, and if we distributed them evenly around the perimeter we'd have something less effective than the dirt or logs. Thus, for tonight, dirt and logs are the best possible fortification and the best use of our time. They go up easy, they come down easy, and they're reusable. Stacking those bricks now would be like building investing in a missile silo in the 1850s.
Furthermore, what kind of enemies will we be facing that bricks will be more effective than an equally tall (actually taller) barrier of dirt and logs? Unless the GM throws some building-destroyers at us (which I admit is a legitimate concern) what is more important than the strength of the material is the defensive advantage, e.g. higher ground, distance, and impairment of the enemies' mobility.
So, in my opinion, until we have enough bricks for a truly formidable wall they're not going to be very useful.
Complete the dirt wall as much as our resources allow, get the woodcutters inside and get a few other villagers to help them shift the logs into an impromptu wall for the rest of the camp. then get any remaning chromes to start polishing their arms.
This one.
Post by: Tarran on September 25, 2011, 04:30:37 am
Enough to finish our bricks. The usage of the bricks would make a section of the wall basically impenetrable compared to the rest. The use of those bricks would've put us back a short amount of time: A day or so. We've got two brickmakers, after all.Walls should be made out of the strongest material in my opinion. Because if something can break down a wall wall made out of our strongest material, NOTHING ELSE WILL STOP IT.
Weigh the benefits with the costs. How much of that brick wall could we have finished with our limited manpower and resources, how much more defensible would that actually have made our encampment, and how far back would using those bricks, which could be used for something else down the line put us?
First of all, 64 regular-sized little bricks? Anything with the intelligence of a house spider would just walk around them if we stacked them all in one place, and if we distributed them evenly around the perimeter we'd have something less effective than the dirt or logs. Thus, for tonight, dirt and logs are the best possible fortification and the best use of our time. They go up easy, they come down easy, and they're reusable. Stacking those bricks now would be like building investing in a missile silo in the 1850s.Yes, they would walk around it. WHICH IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T ATTACK THAT PART OF THE WALL. I did not say we should make a wall out of bricks TONIGHT, I said we should make PART of the wall tonight.
And it's not like investing in 1850. It's like investing in, say, 1940s. It's not like a day is over 90 years or something. What we do tonight will speed up the process tomorrow and later, which is hardly far away.
Also, not using the bricks and then using wood would waste time because you'd have to remove the wood before you can put in the bricks. Not much time, but... just saying.
Furthermore, what kind of enemies will we be facing that bricks will be more effective than an equally tall (actually taller) barrier of dirt and logs?Beaver-like creatures can eat out the wood, any creatures with paws, or any kind of hand can slowly dig out the dirt. Sharp axelike limbs may also get through logs.
You'd have to have a goddamn strong creature to dig through bricks.
Unless the GM throws some building-destroyers at us (which I admit is a legitimate concern) what is more important than the strength of the material is the defensive advantage, e.g. higher ground, distance, and impairment of the enemies' mobility.Okay... So what's stopping us from building a raised brick wall?
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 25, 2011, 04:33:58 am
Complete the dirt wall as much as our resources allow, get the woodcutters inside and get a few other villagers to help them shift the logs into an impromptu wall for the rest of the camp. then get any remaning chromes to start polishing their arms.
I'm not sure where you want the wall to go so an explanation here would be good.
Post by: kaian-a-coel on September 25, 2011, 04:58:30 am
I think for now using dirt for a wall is not a bad idea, since we have a lot of it, and its better to have them in the form of a wall rather than in useless piles in the middle of the camp.
Later on, we can make a good walling by encasing dirt by bricks. like this:
u[]//[]
u = moat [] = brick wall // = dirt wall
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 25, 2011, 05:19:51 am
We have a moat. A moat and a little dirt mount give enough advantage to repel most ennemies.
I think for now using dirt for a wall is not a bad idea, since we have a lot of it, and its better to have them in the form of a wall rather than in useless piles in the middle of the camp.
Later on, we can make a good walling by encasing dirt by bricks. like this:
u[]//[]
u = moat [] = brick wall // = dirt wall
thats a good idea.Lets do that. but not today or tommorrow. we need more bricks and mortar. tomorrow is for brick making and fish smoking. I want a nice big store of smoke dried fish that won't rot away, then we can leave off foraging and devote more manpower to the labor intensive task of building a brick wall.
Post by: Sheb on September 25, 2011, 06:10:00 am
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 25, 2011, 06:11:33 am
But for now, we should Build as much of the wall as possible, use the logs to extand it, putting them near the moat and dig the moat. Then cook the Rolphin for tonight's meal.
+1
Post by: evilcherry on September 25, 2011, 07:22:25 am
In addition, drag everything inside the camp. Right now, someone can just roll over a log to fill the moat.But for now, we should Build as much of the wall as possible, use the logs to extand it, putting them near the moat and dig the moat. Then cook the Rolphin for tonight's meal.
+1
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 25, 2011, 07:29:38 am
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Picky decides that instead of a gatehouse she shoud build a lookout tower, she tells Hans her plan and he says it will increase village security and lectures about how security is paramount since he is the sherif after all. Hans and Picky put boards together and create a satifactory lookout from the unfinished gatehouse. Picky and Hans gain respect for eachother.
Franz and Jaian finish up for the day. Franz moves some logs into place to help defend the village while Jaian brings in all of the planks.
Rex's smokehouse is almost done!
Weapons:
8x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Saw
2x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
30x Planks
25x Pile of sticks
28x Pile of Leaves
24x Small Rocks
70x Fired bricks
Food:
26x Berries
12x Uncooked Rolphin
2x Eggs
15x Herbs
Misc:
2x Pots of blue liquid
2x Pots of oil
5x empty pots
2x clay resepticle
Population:
1 Digger
2 Clayworkers
1 Fisher
1 Woodcutter
1 Miner
1 Builder
4 Peasants
Total: 8
1 turn until nightfall.
Author Notes:
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Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 25, 2011, 07:36:11 am
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 25, 2011, 07:50:34 am
Defensive earthworks are a staple of military doctrin. A brick wall is too permanent and we may need to move or change our defenses in the future. We don't even have places to live yet, after all. The bricks should go towards a stable and sturdy shelter in case we get some nasty weather. That brick wall won't help much when it starts storming, but a dry brick structure would save our lives.
Post by: evilcherry on September 25, 2011, 08:14:17 am
All hands not currently doing other tasks should help with extending the dirt wall.Better move the logs into position first.
Defensive earthworks are a staple of military doctrin. A brick wall is too permanent and we may need to move or change our defenses in the future. We don't even have places to live yet, after all. The bricks should go towards a stable and sturdy shelter in case we get some nasty weather. That brick wall won't help much when it starts storming, but a dry brick structure would save our lives.
The logs, in their current position, is more a liability than any help. If gnomes are invading, they can just hide behind them and fill in the moat. Effectively making the logs their cover until the assault.
Post by: Sheb on September 25, 2011, 08:15:19 am
Post by: Hitty40 on September 25, 2011, 08:16:28 am
Post by: adwarf on September 25, 2011, 08:19:42 am
Yeah, moving the lag first is best. We cannot extand the wall much with earth anyway.Actually we have tons of dirt Lincoln just put it off screen, so as not to put to much on the picture.
Post by: Sheb on September 25, 2011, 08:25:42 am
Post by: adwarf on September 25, 2011, 08:29:00 am
No, I meant that we don't have the time to expand it much before nightfall.Oh, sorry about that, but yeah we should move the logs inside, and use them to extend, and make an impromptu wall
Post by: stabbymcstabstab on September 25, 2011, 08:35:41 am
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 25, 2011, 09:00:03 am
Post by: Jiokuy on September 25, 2011, 09:13:39 am
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 25, 2011, 10:51:45 am
Post by: Alternatecash on September 25, 2011, 12:42:01 pm
Wouldnt they need nails to create structures?No. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortise_and_tenon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortise_and_tenon)
Ready the spears. It's going to be a long night.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 25, 2011, 12:48:50 pm
Enough to finish our bricks. The usage of the bricks would make a section of the wall basically impenetrable compared to the rest. The use of those bricks would've put us back a short amount of time: A day or so. We've got two brickmakers, after all.Walls should be made out of the strongest material in my opinion. Because if something can break down a wall wall made out of our strongest material, NOTHING ELSE WILL STOP IT.
Weigh the benefits with the costs. How much of that brick wall could we have finished with our limited manpower and resources, how much more defensible would that actually have made our encampment, and how far back would using those bricks, which could be used for something else down the line put us?First of all, 64 regular-sized little bricks? Anything with the intelligence of a house spider would just walk around them if we stacked them all in one place, and if we distributed them evenly around the perimeter we'd have something less effective than the dirt or logs. Thus, for tonight, dirt and logs are the best possible fortification and the best use of our time. They go up easy, they come down easy, and they're reusable. Stacking those bricks now would be like building investing in a missile silo in the 1850s.Yes, they would walk around it. WHICH IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T ATTACK THAT PART OF THE WALL. I did not say we should make a wall out of bricks TONIGHT, I said we should make PART of the wall tonight.
And it's not like investing in 1850. It's like investing in, say, 1940s. It's not like a day is over 90 years or something. What we do tonight will speed up the process tomorrow and later, which is hardly far away.
Also, not using the bricks and then using wood would waste time because you'd have to remove the wood before you can put in the bricks. Not much time, but... just saying.Furthermore, what kind of enemies will we be facing that bricks will be more effective than an equally tall (actually taller) barrier of dirt and logs?Beaver-like creatures can eat out the wood, any creatures with paws, or any kind of hand can slowly dig out the dirt. Sharp axelike limbs may also get through logs.
You'd have to have a goddamn strong creature to dig through bricks.Unless the GM throws some building-destroyers at us (which I admit is a legitimate concern) what is more important than the strength of the material is the defensive advantage, e.g. higher ground, distance, and impairment of the enemies' mobility.Okay... So what's stopping us from building a raised brick wall?
But then, we seem to have a different understanding of just how useful 64 mud bricks will be. How high and how long of a wall would you say we could raise from those?
Post by: kaian-a-coel on September 25, 2011, 12:53:04 pm
Post by: ed boy on September 25, 2011, 01:00:18 pm
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 25, 2011, 01:50:02 pm
And dig that moat, Chloe! Oh yeah... just like that.
Post by: Tarran on September 25, 2011, 02:05:15 pm
But then, we seem to have a different understanding of just how useful 64 mud bricks will be. How high and how long of a wall would you say we could raise from those?If I had to imagine it, it takes 6 to get as tall as a Chrome...
And two wide to be as wide as a Chrome...
That's 5 1/3 Chromes wide walls there. It may not sound like much, but every bit counts in a big way. It's like, having a another table in a barricade.
And it's not the size that matters, dude. It's saving time for later and making a part of the wall tougher than the rest.
But whatever, I give up. No one will listen. When something that can break through dirt and wood comes along the only thing I'll be thinking is "Well, no one can blame me at least".
Post by: stabbymcstabstab on September 25, 2011, 02:12:48 pm
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 25, 2011, 02:15:12 pm
Post by: Tarran on September 25, 2011, 02:19:28 pm
1: An area away from the river. Easily enough, but...
2: A way to find it.
3: A way to get it flowing without a death.
4: A way to get it up.
We lack 2 and 4, and I'd assume we also lack 3.
So no magma for you.
Post by: stabbymcstabstab on September 25, 2011, 02:20:24 pm
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 25, 2011, 02:33:02 pm
Post by: Tarran on September 25, 2011, 02:47:24 pm
And we are definitely not going to make a pumpstack out of wood. :P
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 25, 2011, 04:23:16 pm
Alas, that would send a tsunami across the map, knocking some poor adventurer into a pool of alligators.
Post by: QuakeIV on September 25, 2011, 05:30:12 pm
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 25, 2011, 07:02:35 pm
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Weapons:
8x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Saw
2x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
28x Planks
25x Pile of sticks
28x Pile of Leaves
24x Small Rocks
78x Fired bricks
Food:
26x Berries
12x Uncooked Rolphin
2x Eggs
15x Herbs
Misc:
2x Pots of blue liquid
2x Pots of oil
5x empty pots
2x clay resepticle
Population:
1 Digger
2 Clayworkers
1 Fisher
1 Woodcutter
1 Miner
1 Builder
4 Peasants
Total: 8
Night is upon us
Author Notes:
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Post by: Coolnesstod on September 25, 2011, 07:10:23 pm
Post by: Shootandrun on September 25, 2011, 07:11:24 pm
Post by: adwarf on September 25, 2011, 07:13:48 pm
Post by: Hitty40 on September 25, 2011, 07:25:23 pm
Post by: Evilsx on September 25, 2011, 07:54:48 pm
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 25, 2011, 08:07:02 pm
Have hans and franz cover the west while jaian and Picky watch east. Then have 2 non-named peasants watch north.
This, and have one of the peasants use a particularly hefty branch as a cudgel, in case they encounter anything that needs to be pounded rather than stabbed.
Post by: Johnfalcon99977 on September 25, 2011, 08:08:28 pm
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 25, 2011, 08:10:14 pm
Use the rest of the Planks to quickly build a makeshift wall over the last gap.
Why not just let the dirt workers finish that part up?
Post by: evilcherry on September 25, 2011, 08:26:30 pm
Would rather suggest "any reasonable method".Use the rest of the Planks to quickly build a makeshift wall over the last gap.
Why not just let the dirt workers finish that part up?
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 25, 2011, 08:43:39 pm
Would rather suggest "any reasonable method".Use the rest of the Planks to quickly build a makeshift wall over the last gap.
Why not just let the dirt workers finish that part up?
True. I was just curious.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 25, 2011, 08:53:29 pm
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The villagers gather around the fire to consume delicious rolphin flesh seasoned with herbs and berries, except for Hans of course who is keeping watch in the lookout.
Food:
26x Berries -15 for meal
12x Cooked Rolphin -12 for meal
2x Eggs
15x Herbs -6 for meal
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Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 25, 2011, 08:56:23 pm
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 25, 2011, 08:59:58 pm
Someone (perhaps Picky) Bring Hans some food in his lonely tower.
Also, Is that meant to say Uncooced Rolfin in the food list?
You diddn't see anything~
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 25, 2011, 09:07:54 pm
What are you talking about? (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=93538.msg2638901#msg2638901)Someone (perhaps Picky) Bring Hans some food in his lonely tower.
You diddn't see anything~
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 25, 2011, 09:35:20 pm
And, admire how cute Cellarhans looks in his new slime clothes. ^_^
Post by: evilcherry on September 25, 2011, 09:40:03 pm
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 25, 2011, 10:53:30 pm
Make some more spears
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 25, 2011, 11:10:56 pm
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Hans, Picky and the three workers take the first watch. The workers begin to sharpen more spears using the hatchets. Picky gives Hans his share of the meal and they keep watch from the lookout together.
Everyone else except Rex sleeps in the shelter. Rex sleeps in the smokehouse because "It's better then that crapshack".
Hans has spotted something in the trees!
Weapons:
8x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Saw
2x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
Lots of piles of sticks
Lots of piles of Leaves
28x Planks
24x Small Rocks
78x Fired bricks
Food:
11x Berries
2x Eggs
9x Herbs
Misc:
2x Pots of blue liquid
2x Pots of oil
5x empty pots
2x clay resepticle
Population:
1 Digger
2 Clayworkers
1 Fisher
1 Woodcutter
1 Miner
1 Builder
4 Peasants
Total: 8
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Post by: adwarf on September 25, 2011, 11:15:32 pm
Post by: Heron TSG on September 25, 2011, 11:16:52 pm
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 25, 2011, 11:19:09 pm
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 25, 2011, 11:34:40 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 25, 2011, 11:35:16 pm
Slime Alert, Slime Alert! Over there, in the trees! Across the Moat! Behind the dirt wall! ...Oh. We seem pretty safe, after all.
This, basically. Unless we find out they can swim, climb walls, and are actually hostile, they're not really much of a concern.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 25, 2011, 11:40:12 pm
Post by: Tarran on September 26, 2011, 12:00:33 am
But I have a feeling that they will, so we should be ready.
Also, don't make the mistake we had last time, make sure AT LEAST one person is watching the rear. And make sure we watch the bark of our logs. One of those things crippled one of our guys in one update. That's pretty lethal.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 26, 2011, 12:04:26 am
Post by: evilcherry on September 26, 2011, 12:23:13 am
Unless the slimes actually emerges from the woods, there is no case to panic. We need some more spears, so at least we can knock a couple of them out before they actually reach the moat.
Hans and Picky will stay on the tower to keep watch, especially our back. If there are too many we can always wake everyone up.
p.s. Sooner or later we need a horn.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 26, 2011, 12:29:59 am
p.s. Sooner or later we need a horn.
This is a great idea, and those land whales look good for it.
Post by: Tarran on September 26, 2011, 12:32:38 am
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 26, 2011, 12:37:03 am
I don't think we call them land whales, do we? Or am I imagining what Lincoln calls them wrong?
No, I think you're right... Greater Land Jaians? All the names are just blowing over me at this point.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 26, 2011, 12:45:16 am
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The workers and Hans array themselves along the wall ready to attack any foes that come within range of their spears and hatchets. Picky stays at the lookout to watch for enemies coming from other directions.
Weapons:
14x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Saw
2x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
Lots of piles of sticks
Lots of piles of Leaves
28x Planks
24x Small Rocks
78x Fired bricks
Food:
11x Berries
2x Eggs
9x Herbs
Misc:
2x Pots of blue liquid
2x Pots of oil
5x empty pots
2x clay resepticle
Population:
1 Digger
2 Clayworkers
1 Fisher
1 Woodcutter
1 Miner
1 Builder
4 Peasants
Total: 8
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Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 26, 2011, 01:03:39 am
Have the second worker from the bottom run and go quickly bring back a small arm full of rocks.
These may not be effective on the slimes, but if something rears an ugly head, they might come in very indeed.
Post by: Tarran on September 26, 2011, 01:05:45 am
Should we wake up more people, guys?
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 26, 2011, 01:12:07 am
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 26, 2011, 01:28:12 am
Oh dear, stick creatures with the slime.
Should we wake up more people, guys?
I am for it, though I would hate to wake the others if there will be penalties for the following day, before first seeing just how formidable that moat is.
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 26, 2011, 01:46:51 am
Post by: Tarran on September 26, 2011, 01:51:40 am
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 26, 2011, 01:52:23 am
Are those rocks, or Grey slimes? Because we have one sneaking up on the watch tower, as well as the rest of the horde
The object northeast of the watchtower, near the stump, is a rock, as are the ones scattered to the northwest along the hills.
Post by: evilcherry on September 26, 2011, 01:59:15 am
We may need to adapt to a nocturnal lifestyle if real threats only come at night.Oh dear, stick creatures with the slime.
Should we wake up more people, guys?
I am for it, though I would hate to wake the others if there will be penalties for the following day, before first seeing just how formidable that moat is.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 26, 2011, 02:05:53 am
We may need to adapt to a nocturnal lifestyle if real threats only come at night.Oh dear, stick creatures with the slime.
Should we wake up more people, guys?
I am for it, though I would hate to wake the others if there will be penalties for the following day, before first seeing just how formidable that moat is.
If we did that, when would we construct buildings, conduct trade, gather resources, tend crops, and explore..?
Maybe if we tough it out for a few more days we will get to the point where these creatures are not a constant threat. Also, the journal Hans found in the cabin alludes to a potential greater threat that prompted the author create the one we're currently facing- namely, the Imperials.
Dun-dun-dun!
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 26, 2011, 02:21:29 am
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 26, 2011, 02:40:35 am
I think that the author of the journal somehow created these creatures to defend him or herself from the Imperials. I am also of the opinion that there is something creating and/or sustaining these creatures and that if we were to disable it, the pressure on New Hope would be greatly diminished.
Agreed, but who knows what the implications would be- are the Imperials still around? Did they abandon this area because of the creatures that stalk the night? And will they return if they vanish?
Plot thickens. :P
I think that once we have established a good fortification and a sturdy shelter, we should set out for whatever the source of these things is. Metal weapons would be nice, too.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 26, 2011, 02:44:11 am
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Picky has sighted no further threats.
Weapons:
14x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Saw
2x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
Lots of piles of sticks
Lots of piles of Leaves
28x Planks
24x Small Rocks
78x Fired bricks
Food:
11x Berries
2x Eggs
9x Herbs
Misc:
2x Pots of blue liquid
2x Pots of oil
5x empty pots
2x clay resepticle
Population:
1 Digger
2 Clayworkers
1 Fisher
1 Woodcutter
1 Miner
1 Builder
4 Peasants
Total: 8
Author Notes:
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Post by: Nightscar982 on September 26, 2011, 02:58:30 am
Everyone needs enjoyment, take it when you can
Post by: Tarran on September 26, 2011, 02:59:48 am
Now, let's see how well the orange ones fare.
And swapping between images I can state for a fact that Picky is right and there are no more incoming threats.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 26, 2011, 03:00:31 am
Post by: Tarran on September 26, 2011, 03:02:30 am
Ummm... dude...
How is dissolving and eroding 'swimming'?
It's more like suicide.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 26, 2011, 03:03:16 am
Wait wait wait.
Ummm... dude...
How is dissolving and eroding 'swimming'?
It's more like suicide.
I wasn't paying attention. Edited.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 26, 2011, 03:27:04 am
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The slimes advance, the green slime makes it through the moat (although it is much smaller now) and one of the workers gives it a light prod with his spear he does a 1 damage!
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Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 26, 2011, 03:29:11 am
Post by: evilcherry on September 26, 2011, 03:31:20 am
Hans should ready as many torches as possible. Barkman.
Tactics against mobs:
Green Slime: Do not engage until they are in water.
Orange Slime: ???
Barkman: Throw torches/torch on stick and burn them alive. Do not let them even touch the moat; in case they went through, switch to bladed weapons.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 26, 2011, 03:44:19 am
continue to brace ourselves and push the slimes back from the wall. Don't pursue them, yet.
Hans should ready as many torches as possible. Barkman.
Tactics against mobs:
Green Slime: Do not engage until they are in water.
Orange Slime: ???
Barkman: Throw torches/torch on stick and burn them alive. Do not let them even touch the moat; in case they went through, switch to bladed weapons.
Good policy here.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 26, 2011, 04:08:55 am
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The worker pushes the slime back into the water and Hans comes face to bark with his old foe...
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Hans hits in the face with a Flaming pot of oil! The orange slimes do not appear to be effected by the water!
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Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 26, 2011, 04:37:38 am
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 26, 2011, 04:43:48 am
Also we should get a list of links to the various turns.
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 26, 2011, 04:56:05 am
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 26, 2011, 05:47:49 am
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The orange slimes float over to the village side of the moat and are about to begin their climb up the side of the dirt wall.
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Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 26, 2011, 05:56:02 am
Post by: evilcherry on September 26, 2011, 05:59:20 am
We need another 'nade or torch throw for that piece of wood.
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 26, 2011, 06:10:36 am
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 26, 2011, 07:41:40 am
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Post by: ed boy on September 26, 2011, 07:46:03 am
Post by: JacenHanLovesLegos on September 26, 2011, 08:45:56 am
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 26, 2011, 08:58:28 am
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 26, 2011, 09:13:53 am
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 26, 2011, 09:58:45 am
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 26, 2011, 10:24:40 am
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 26, 2011, 12:21:27 pm
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 26, 2011, 12:24:39 pm
Post by: kaian-a-coel on September 26, 2011, 01:14:43 pm
I also remember oranges slimes being flammable. Or did they simply got liquid?
Anyways, i strongly suggest to grab some torches.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 26, 2011, 01:25:49 pm
Spears aren't going to be terribly effective against something made of sticks. We need to throw rocks or use axes...I see that I forgot to complete my sentence again... :/
I was original going to suggest knock him into the water, but that would just make him wet and less flammable...
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 26, 2011, 01:44:50 pm
I also remember oranges slimes being flammable. Or did they simply got liquid?I believe they melted in the face of fire.
Post by: Tersr on September 26, 2011, 02:12:36 pm
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 26, 2011, 02:14:09 pm
set another pot of oil alight, then pour it's flaming contents down the side of the wall. It should repel both orange slimes and stick-men.
The whole waste our entire stock of oil (that we can't replace) on the second fight we've had seems Hasty. Or you know wasteful and reckless. save the oil and use it to make torches in the morning. The torches should be effective for more then a single night.
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 26, 2011, 02:48:00 pm
Post by: The Merchant Of Menace on September 26, 2011, 02:49:24 pm
Seriously though, small rocks make excellent improvised projectiles. They could puncture the orange slimes or penetrate and get stuck in the slime thus making it not float. They could knock the stickman off the slime. We have them everywhere. We could prepare a small pile of them next time and use simple slings to increase range and accuracy.This man speaks truth.
Post by: Supernerd on September 26, 2011, 03:04:27 pm
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 26, 2011, 03:15:56 pm
Hans: Grab a spear, set it on fire then throw it at the stick-thing with extreme prejudice!and to see that it maintains flaminess, dip it in oil.
Post by: Shootandrun on September 26, 2011, 03:18:24 pm
Hans: Grab a spear, set it on fire then throw it at the stick-thing with extreme prejudice!
The stick thing will simply fall in the water and probably float towards the wall. Waste of a spear in my opinion.
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 26, 2011, 03:21:42 pm
Waste of oil more like. We can replace spears.Hans: Grab a spear, set it on fire then throw it at the stick-thing with extreme prejudice!
The stick thing will simply fall in the water and probably float towards the wall. Waste of a spear in my opinion.
Post by: adwarf on September 26, 2011, 03:21:58 pm
I agree +1Hans: Grab a spear, set it on fire then throw it at the stick-thing with extreme prejudice!and to see that it maintains flaminess, dip it in oil.
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 26, 2011, 03:22:44 pm
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 26, 2011, 03:27:00 pm
Holy crap I wonder of Rolphin oil is flammable.O ya- we need to figure a way of collecting it when cooking the next rolfphin.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 26, 2011, 03:31:05 pm
Holy crap I wonder of Rolphin oil is flammable.
Fish/cooking oil tends to be flammable, but only at very high temperatures (~700 F; your ordinary flame is only 750 F) and is therefore a poor source of fuel. Once it reaches the point where it smokes, however, it gives off noxious fumes and would probably make an effective oil grenade if heat on some coals first.
Not very useful against the barkmen, but it might have an effect on those orange slimes.
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 26, 2011, 03:33:59 pm
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 26, 2011, 03:35:59 pm
Holy crap I wonder of Rolphin oil is flammable.O ya- we need to figure a way of collecting it when cooking the next rolfphin.
Chop the fish, put it in a jar, and tie cloth over the top. Then just hang the jar somewhere it will get maximum sun exposure. Modern folks use glass jars. I'm not sure how long it would actually take for the oil to be drawn out in a clay jar... probably weeks. That said, heating the jar might work since clay fares better than glass around fire.
It will stink.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 26, 2011, 07:49:52 pm
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Two of the orange slimes have been defeated.
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Post by: Tarran on September 26, 2011, 07:57:08 pm
Orange slimes have 13 Hp.
As for linking to specific posts, you see the "Re: Build a village: A New Hope" at the top of every post? Right clicking and copying the link location should work. Alternatively, left click on it and copy your new URL on your URL bar.
Post by: Ochita on September 26, 2011, 07:57:47 pm
Anyway, keep up the standard attacks.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 26, 2011, 08:01:26 pm
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 26, 2011, 08:32:44 pm
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Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 26, 2011, 09:38:24 pm
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The battle is won!
Hans feels a strage sensation overcome him....
Seizure Warning
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Village:
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Weapons:
14x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Saw
2x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
Lots of piles of sticks
Lots of piles of Leaves
28x Planks
20x Small Rocks
78x Fired bricks
Food:
11x Berries
2x Eggs
9x Herbs
Misc:
2x Pots of blue liquid
1x Pots of oil
5x empty pots
2x clay resepticle
Population:
Civillians:
1x Digger
2x Clayworkers
1x Fisher
1x Woodcutter
1x Miner
1x Builder
3x Peasants
Military:
1x Level 1 Warrior
Total: 8
Author Notes:
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Post by: JacenHanLovesLegos on September 26, 2011, 10:00:09 pm
Post by: Tarran on September 26, 2011, 10:07:35 pm
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 26, 2011, 10:12:04 pm
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 26, 2011, 10:23:36 pm
Hans seems to be needed in too many places at once, If he sleeps at night to defend the village, we cannot use him at day, and vice versa, he should take someone under his wing soon
Everyone is getting all the sleep they need because of shifts.
You forgot to make Hans red and put warrior in the population.This is the sort of thing that happens when you add in someone leveling up after you've done the rest of the update.
Post by: evilcherry on September 26, 2011, 10:24:51 pm
We need the sun.
Post by: Hitty40 on September 26, 2011, 10:41:22 pm
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 26, 2011, 10:47:59 pm
The next time the merchant passes by, we ought to make sure to get some rope and seeds.
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 26, 2011, 10:49:04 pm
Get picky chippin rocks, the brickmakers making bricks, the woodcutters chopping trees, fishing dude go fishing, and someone try find a way of replanting trees.Have the rest continue on the dirt wall/ getting food.
Id say claymaking would be best, but really depends on ore we can access
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 26, 2011, 10:52:45 pm
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 26, 2011, 11:03:17 pm
Post by: evilcherry on September 26, 2011, 11:06:06 pm
He isnt really that specific right now, as he is the only one, it would seem kind of pointless being so diverse, when we need an all rounder.I don't think having a forest so close to the village is the best option. They have too much cover in that way.
Get picky chippin rocks, the brickmakers making bricks, the woodcutters chopping trees, fishing dude go fishing, and someone try find a way of replanting trees.Have the rest continue on the dirt wall/ getting food.
Id say claymaking would be best, but really depends on ore we can access
Optimally we should be able to produce 2 days worth of food every day. That's 66 units - 17 roflfins.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 26, 2011, 11:09:14 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 26, 2011, 11:12:22 pm
Post by: Tarran on September 26, 2011, 11:15:20 pm
Lets just pretend that the moat diddn't get really screwed up in that last update.What are you talking about?
(yes, I know what you mean, just playing along).
Vertical brick walls are a priority.A lot of people were against it for one reason or another. So even though I agree with you, I really don't see the act going through.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 26, 2011, 11:21:20 pm
Edit: I accidentally a word.
Post by: micelus on September 26, 2011, 11:27:00 pm
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 26, 2011, 11:28:13 pm
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 26, 2011, 11:40:07 pm
Post by: Alternatecash on September 26, 2011, 11:41:51 pm
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 26, 2011, 11:44:58 pm
Set all peasants to brick-makingI would suggest that we get Hans and two peasants to explore to the west with spears, but the rest can make bricks.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 26, 2011, 11:46:06 pm
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Weapons:
14x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Saw
2x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
Lots of piles of sticks
Lots of piles of Leaves
28x Planks
20x Small Rocks
78x Fired bricks
Food:
11x Berries
2x Eggs
5x Greater Jaian Milk
9x Herbs
Misc:
2x Pots of blue liquid
1x Pots of oil
5x empty pots
2x clay resepticle
Population:
Civillians:
1x Digger
2x Clayworkers
1x Fisher
1x Woodcutter
1x Miner
1x Builder
3x Peasants
Military:
1x Level 1 Warrior
Total: 11
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Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 26, 2011, 11:50:48 pm
Post by: Tarran on September 26, 2011, 11:54:29 pm
Urgh. You guys... ::)
As a side note, congratz Lincoln.
Post by: micelus on September 26, 2011, 11:57:34 pm
Create additional fired bricks and construct more brick walls.
Post by: Ahra on September 27, 2011, 01:05:50 am
Post by: evilcherry on September 27, 2011, 01:16:10 am
I suggest that Hans should lead a few men to hunt/capture Greater Jaians.
We can always smoke the extra meat, or turn them into jerky. Unless it rains they would not spoil.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 27, 2011, 01:35:56 am
We need way more food than that. Our stock isn't going to last a day.
I suggest that Hans should lead a few men to hunt/capture Greater Jaians.
We can always smoke the extra meat, or turn them into jerky. Unless it rains they would not spoil.
Sounds good.
I would also suggest building a sort of "fish larder," but it involves using bricks, which is controversial. Besides, we would need lots of vinegar and salt.
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 27, 2011, 02:34:22 am
sorry if i missed it and its been done but 3 guys haul all the oil and herbs from the cottage in the woodsAlready been done here (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=93375.msg2634860#msg2634860)
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 27, 2011, 02:50:25 am
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Jaian goes to help the others with their brick making. Chloe has gone offscreen to dig the moat. She will return in one turn. Rex and the worker will return in one turn with their catch.
Weapons:
14x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Saw
2x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
Lots of piles of sticks
Lots of piles of Leaves
33x Planks
20x Small Rocks
90x Fired bricks
60x Orange Slime Glaze
Food:
11x Berries
2x Eggs
5x Greater Jaian Milk
9x Herbs
Misc:
2x Pots of blue liquid
1x Pots of oil
4x empty pots
2x clay resepticle
1x Simple clay trinket
Population:
Civillians:
1x Digger
2x Clayworkers
1x Fisher
1x Woodcutter
1x Miner
1x Builder
3x Peasants
Military:
1x Level 1 Warrior
Total: 11
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Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 27, 2011, 03:08:21 am
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 27, 2011, 03:17:37 am
Did covering that little ball of clay use up all of the orange slime, or is it sitting in a pot not listed in the inventory?I just added it to the inventory, i'll deduct an amount of the glaze that i think makes sense for each of the items you use it on.
I might also add a crafting materias section in the future.
Post by: ed boy on September 27, 2011, 03:54:23 am
Post by: Neyvn on September 27, 2011, 04:29:53 am
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 27, 2011, 05:03:57 am
i don't think we need a wall. yet, defending the city has been easy enough, and we really don't have any means of attacking any incoming enemies through a wall with our spears. i'd say we build a defensible sleeping hall, more comfortable than the shelter and with some sleeping bunks, with brick walls and a boarded roof we could put spearmen in and a stockpile of rock ammo
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 27, 2011, 05:24:11 am
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Chloe has returned after finaly completing the moat.
Hans has spotted several traders approaching from the plains!
Weapons:
14x Wooden Spears
10x Fire-hardened wooden spears
Tools:
1x Saw
2x Hatchet
1x Hammer
1x Pickaxe
1x Shovel
Construction Materials:
Lots of piles of sticks
Lots of piles of Leaves
33x Planks
26x Small Rocks
109x Fired bricks
60x Orange Slime Glaze
Food:
30x Uncooked Rolphin
11x Berries
2x Eggs
5x Greater Jaian Milk
9x Herbs
Misc:
2x Pots of blue liquid
1x Pots of oil
4x empty pots
2x clay resepticle
1x Simple clay trinket
Population:
Civillians:
1x Digger
2x Clayworkers
1x Fisher
1x Woodcutter
1x Miner
1x Builder
3x Peasants
Military:
1x Level 1 Warrior
Total: 11
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Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 27, 2011, 05:39:45 am
Post by: Zako on September 27, 2011, 06:35:56 am
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 27, 2011, 07:08:00 am
Post by: evilcherry on September 27, 2011, 07:14:52 am
1. 2 days of food in stock - to be self-sustainable
2. Expand watchtower into a wooden house - We do not need a dedicated barracks yet
3. Finish earthworks wall - even they climb up, the wall itself would be a chokepoint.
4. At least 30+ weapons, 5+ edged
Medium-term plans:
1. Pottery industry seems to be the best course of action
2. Enough bricks for outer vertical layer of wall - we don't need that inside yet
3. Ballistic weapon system to throw rocks or fire
4. Supply of pitch/oil for fire projectiles
5. Metal
Long-term plans
Brick houses for everyone
Ballista on top of tower
Post by: BunnyBob77 on September 27, 2011, 07:17:08 am
Short-term plans:Sounds good, except brick houses should be a higher priority and we should keep the watchtower as it is.
1. 2 days of food in stock - to be self-sustainable
2. Expand watchtower into a wooden house - We do not need a dedicated barracks yet
3. Finish earthworks wall - even they climb up, the wall itself would be a chokepoint.
4. At least 30+ weapons, 5+ edged
Medium-term plans:
1. Pottery industry seems to be the best course of action
2. Enough bricks for outer vertical layer of wall - we don't need that inside yet
3. Ballistic weapon system to throw rocks or fire
4. Supply of pitch/oil for fire projectiles
5. Metal
Long-term plans
Brick houses for everyone
Ballista on top of tower
Post by: evilcherry on September 27, 2011, 07:29:31 am
The plan is to use the watch building as a barracks/armory once the brick houses/homes are ready.Short-term plans:Sounds good, except brick houses should be a higher priority and we should keep the watchtower as it is.
1. 2 days of food in stock - to be self-sustainable
2. Expand watchtower into a wooden house - We do not need a dedicated barracks yet
3. Finish earthworks wall - even they climb up, the wall itself would be a chokepoint.
4. At least 30+ weapons, 5+ edged
Medium-term plans:
1. Pottery industry seems to be the best course of action
2. Enough bricks for outer vertical layer of wall - we don't need that inside yet
3. Ballistic weapon system to throw rocks or fire
4. Supply of pitch/oil for fire projectiles
5. Metal
Long-term plans
Brick houses for everyone
Ballista on top of tower
we are technically still a commune, so everyone under the same roof is good.
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 27, 2011, 07:38:51 am
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 27, 2011, 07:53:42 am
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Rolf examines the blue liquid in the pots while he goes about his firing. The liquid has the viscocity of honey, is a pale blue and cannot be seen through.
Rex and the worker begin to cook the Rolphins for breakfast.
Hans says that the traders will arrive next turn.
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Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 27, 2011, 07:59:44 am
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 27, 2011, 08:00:14 am
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 27, 2011, 08:25:12 am
Oh great, so now everyone wants brick walls?Yes, because now we have more time to actually make bricks rather than make a tiny stack of bricks in one area for no reason.
Urgh. You guys... ::)
We should have a peasant taste the Blue Liquid.
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 27, 2011, 08:28:17 am
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 27, 2011, 08:50:11 am
make vases out of clay, paint with blue and glaze with orange
Post by: Neyvn on September 27, 2011, 09:46:20 am
Can I suggest inspecting the Remains of the Stickcreature that wasn't burned in flames like the last two...OH OH OH OH...
Exotic Trade Good.
The Remains of a Night Monster...
Though convincing the Traders that it was once alive MAY be a problem...
Post by: Ultimuh on September 27, 2011, 09:49:32 am
Can I suggest inspecting the Remains of the Stickcreature that wasn't burned in flames like the last two...OH OH OH OH...
Exotic Trade Good.
The Remains of a Night Monster...
Though convincing the Traders that it was once alive MAY be a problem...
We could ask them about these creatures.
What they are, where they come from.. that sort of things.
And if they don't know, at least we know that we might be the first to encounter such fiends.
Post by: Zako on September 27, 2011, 09:54:49 am
Anyone who has spare time, begin construction of a brick house, with a wooden roof. Also, Rex and the worker should smoke some of that fish.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 27, 2011, 10:20:56 am
As for houses, what about mud?
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The design isn't important- just something that uses the same method. This way, we can conserve our bricks for fortifications.
Post by: JacenHanLovesLegos on September 27, 2011, 10:25:36 am
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 27, 2011, 10:33:39 am
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 27, 2011, 10:49:26 am
Keep the blue liquid until the trader arrives, and ask him what it is.
As for houses, what about mud?Spoiler (click to show/hide)
The design isn't important- just something that uses the same method. This way, we can conserve our bricks for fortifications.
those are beautiful, where is that?
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 27, 2011, 10:59:06 am
Post by: Ultimuh on September 27, 2011, 11:01:40 am
Have Hans make a crude stickman cap for himself and his little friend.
Post by: Zako on September 27, 2011, 12:05:09 pm
Post by: Hitty40 on September 27, 2011, 01:19:51 pm
Post by: Alternatecash on September 27, 2011, 01:26:34 pm
Post by: Zako on September 27, 2011, 01:34:32 pm
Post by: Tarran on September 27, 2011, 03:30:08 pm
Would you say the same about the moat in the first day? That we should never have dug it out?Oh great, so now everyone wants brick walls?Yes, because now we have more time to actually make bricks rather than make a tiny stack of bricks in one area for no reason.
Urgh. You guys... ::)
It saved time. And there was really no disadvantage. The same could be said about a brick wall.
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 27, 2011, 03:32:06 pm
Bricks take time to make, then more time to dry, then even more time to set and WE HAD NO MORTAR prepared to make a wall with. A stack of 75 bricks without mortar is gonna do what, really? Just let it go.Would you say the same about the moat in the first day? That we should never have dug it out?Oh great, so now everyone wants brick walls?Yes, because now we have more time to actually make bricks rather than make a tiny stack of bricks in one area for no reason.
Urgh. You guys... ::)
It saved time. And there was really no disadvantage. The same could be said about a brick wall.
Post by: Johnfalcon99977 on September 27, 2011, 03:43:49 pm
One of the males is named Leon.
Post by: Tarran on September 27, 2011, 03:44:16 pm
Bricks take time to make, then more time to dry, then even more time to set and WE HAD NO MORTAR prepared to make a wall with. A stack of 75 bricks without mortar is gonna do what, really? Just let it go.Are we arguing about if we should make a brick wall based on how much time it took to make the bricks, or how many bricks we had? Because those are two different arguments.
We had Mortar. I'm 100% sure we made some. Last morning I had Picky go searching for it. And Here (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=93375.525) is the update saying it was made.
I would've stopped if you hadn't brought it up again.
Post by: Shootandrun on September 27, 2011, 03:44:23 pm
You know, It hasn't occured to any of you to name out new populance.
One of the males is named Leon.
I thought we did'nt want to name the workers?
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 27, 2011, 03:46:51 pm
More like Lincoln doesn't want us to. In case he changes his mind, the other male should be called Gordon.You know, It hasn't occured to any of you to name out new populance.
One of the males is named Leon.
I thought we did'nt want to name the workers?
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 27, 2011, 03:48:53 pm
Are we arguing about if we should make a brick wall based on how much time it took to make the bricks, or how many bricks we had? Because those are two different arguments.We were arguing the validity of making a brick wall at that point in time. We had some dry lime and a small stack of bricks which would have done not shit for us.
Anyway...
I still think we should investigate the possibility of brewing berries into alcohol. Alcohol burns and can be imbibed for fun makings.
Post by: Tarran on September 27, 2011, 03:57:42 pm
We were arguing the validity of making a brick wall at that point in time. We had some dry lime and a small stack of bricks which would have done not shit for us.Dry lime that could've had water added to it easily.
Would it not have saved time? Like a small section of wall where there is a planned wall in Dwarf Fortress? Like a section of road for a planned road in Sim City?
Oh, and also in those two examples, it does do shit for us. Very, very little shit, yes, but shit nonetheless.
Post by: K17U on September 27, 2011, 04:44:01 pm
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Instead of having just a brickwall, make a slope of dirt behind it, so that defenders can stand atop it and reach beyond the wall.
Start with a temporary dirt wall as an immediate goal, then add a brick wall later, and expand the dirt wall into a slope.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 27, 2011, 04:56:29 pm
Post by: QuakeIV on September 27, 2011, 07:44:23 pm
You are all to be beheaded.
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 27, 2011, 08:01:34 pm
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 27, 2011, 08:07:47 pm
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Traders have arrived!
The two traders say they are representatives of the West Bogshire Trading Company and have come to trade. They also propose a trade agreement. The conditions of the agreement are simple, in return for refusing to do buisness with the South Stonemeadow Mercantile Guild the village will recieve a 33% discount on all purchases over the value of 15 yollars. If you need time to make this decision then a runner can be sent in the afternoon for the verdict. They also give the village a flag making kit as a token of goodwill, it contains all the materials needed to make one flag.
When told about the horrors of the night they laugh it off and tell you to stop joking around. Everyone knows that the monsters are just things mothers tell their children to keep them out of the woods at night. When shown the stickman corpse they ask you why you went through the trouble to make a stickdoll only to throw rocks at it?
They also have orange seeds in stock, each bag contains 50 seeds. (To bad no one knows what they grow into)
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Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 27, 2011, 08:11:02 pm
Also we should try to capture a slime or a stick demon somehow.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 27, 2011, 08:12:35 pm
OK, how much of each item are the traders carrying?
Also we should try to capture a slime or a stick demon somehow.
Infinite for now. I might put numbers on in further updates though. It's just hard to tell how much of what you guys are going to buy (if any).
Post by: adwarf on September 27, 2011, 08:13:01 pm
Post by: BunnyBob77 on September 27, 2011, 08:14:13 pm
EDIT: Also sell 30 orange slime glaze. It's easy to get, and we have a ton of it.
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 27, 2011, 08:16:59 pm
Post by: JacenHanLovesLegos on September 27, 2011, 08:32:26 pm
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 27, 2011, 09:27:55 pm
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 27, 2011, 10:11:43 pm
Buy the Gsword and a bag of seeds, then ask them again if they know what the seeds do, then ask them what else they can send next time.
Lets not be as hasty to send a runner, until we see what both teams have to offer in the long run.
Patience will be rewarded
Post by: Tarran on September 27, 2011, 10:15:26 pm
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 27, 2011, 10:31:03 pm
Also, I support waiting to see what the other trading company offers.
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 27, 2011, 10:36:32 pm
Also these guys have an aggressive marketing strategy if they're trying to cripple the opposition buy buy exclusive contracts. The no transaction clause is a hard sell in any economy.
Post by: Alternatecash on September 27, 2011, 11:27:41 pm
On an unrelated note, we need to make some cages, large enough to hold a stickman. I have an idea.
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 27, 2011, 11:32:58 pm
on a completly unrealated note buy three units of rope. Build a catapult out out of plank and rope.
Post by: Alternatecash on September 28, 2011, 12:05:16 am
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 28, 2011, 12:28:37 am
The idea involves catching one and showing it off like a sideshow freakfor cash
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 28, 2011, 01:30:04 am
The idea involves catching one and showing it off like a sideshow freakfor cash
I wonder if it would remain animate after sunrise? Only one way to find out- we should dig a pit trap trap and put the cage in there, then force one down.
Provided it doesn't require a trade agreement, sell however much of that Rolphin and slime glaze is necessary to buy the GSword, along with seeds, rope, and three or four units of cloth.
Ask the Trade Company who they are affiliated with nationally.
Post by: Zako on September 28, 2011, 02:19:48 am
We should have JUST enough for 1 GSword, 3 pots of seeds, 3 coils of rope and 3 units of cloth.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 28, 2011, 02:29:36 am
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The villagers would like more time to think about the offer over so they traders will send a runner in the afternoon.
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Post by: Zako on September 28, 2011, 03:01:29 am
Next, a proper home. Everyone who is working on the shore will gather sticks and clay, and weave the sticks together into walls and roofing, then daubing wet clay all over the walls and roof to weather proof them. Then construct a house, using planks for supports if required. Have the house shaped somewhat like a cone or a a triangle, so we can have a more stable structure.
Our lone brickmaker continues making trinkets.
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 28, 2011, 03:13:31 am
Post by: ed boy on September 28, 2011, 03:51:16 am
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 28, 2011, 03:58:09 am
Run after the traders and ask them what else they can bring next time!They can bring anything you request (thats reasonable of course). And a runner is comeing in the afternoon so you will be able to give your requests to him anyway(unless you've signed some agreement that forbids it).
The idea is that you can order anything that you need but it they will charge a fee for finding it to cover their expenses, so you could ask them to bring 300 greater land jaians but they'd probabley charge you quite a bit because they'd have to go through the trouble of obtaining them all(not including the actual costs of them). I think that all the orders would have to be paid upfront so they know they aren't going to go through the trouble of finding stuff only to have you not have the cash.
>One of the peasants: level up to diplomat (or at least make that a goal)The peasants can't level up beacause they are just faceless labourers. If you want a diplomat you'll have to either get the traders to send one your way(and then you have to accomodate him) or you can train a named chrome in diplomacey(getting the traders to send a diplomat to teach a chrome the skill is also a valid option).
I probabley won't make it so the workers can level unless everyone really wants them to. And in that case they would start asking for more then just bread and water like they currently are if they gained more skills.
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 28, 2011, 04:01:06 am
Hell, we dont even know if you can buy a set of armor yet!
Post by: Armok on September 28, 2011, 04:05:14 am
Post by: evilcherry on September 28, 2011, 04:18:00 am
Stop industry until we have 2 days of supplies.
Meanwhile, try to capture another Greater land Jaian and kill another for its meat and horn.
Post by: ed boy on September 28, 2011, 04:32:14 am
People, we need WAY more food.Make sure the killing and butchering takes place out of sight of the rest of the Jaians. The last thing we want is some unfortunate pavlovian conditioning.
Stop industry until we have 2 days of supplies.
Meanwhile, try to capture another Greater land Jaian and kill another for its meat and horn.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 28, 2011, 06:18:10 am
Post by: BunnyBob77 on September 28, 2011, 07:23:52 am
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 28, 2011, 07:55:57 am
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Post by: Hitty40 on September 28, 2011, 08:02:28 am
Post by: Zako on September 28, 2011, 08:05:03 am
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 28, 2011, 08:11:23 am
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 28, 2011, 08:13:29 am
Attempt to tame the creatures and call their speciesStick to conventions! :PHorned JaiansHornbarks.
Post by: evilcherry on September 28, 2011, 08:14:09 am
Hornbarks are a good name. Though their Antlers may not make good horns.
Post by: ed boy on September 28, 2011, 08:15:44 am
Again: Get our food stocks in order first. First priority. Before anything is done.I strongly second this.
Post by: Ultimuh on September 28, 2011, 08:31:51 am
And I suspect Evil Lincoln want us to hunt these things, so i suggest we skip the taming part,
Scratch that part, we have a mission to do, make notes of wher to find them but continue with the slime/stickman hunt.
Post by: JacenHanLovesLegos on September 28, 2011, 09:09:51 am
Post by: Ahra on September 28, 2011, 09:22:06 am
Post by: QuakeIV on September 28, 2011, 09:57:04 am
Post by: Supernerd on September 28, 2011, 10:35:19 am
Post by: Ahra on September 28, 2011, 10:38:38 am
Post by: Ultimuh on September 28, 2011, 10:39:27 am
Have we thought of any flag ideas yet? I recommend a flag with a monster and a shield on it.
I say we wait until the place has grown a bit.
Dosn't seem quite flag-worthy just yet.
Also, I sugest a blue/green slime in front of a grey/silver shield with some other color in the background. Simple and perfect.
Post by: Zako on September 28, 2011, 10:44:53 am
Post by: Ahra on September 28, 2011, 11:07:23 am
I like the moon and sun idea, just instead of a man and monster, have a pair of crossed swords in red on the middle. Should be easy enough, and it symbolises the battle between us, the forces of day, and the creatures of the night.heh nice but maybe an green sword? after all we may change it later (methinks?)
Post by: JacenHanLovesLegos on September 28, 2011, 11:39:29 am
I like the moon and sun idea, just instead of a man and monster, have a pair of crossed swords in red on the middle. Should be easy enough, and it symbolises the battle between us, the forces of day, and the creatures of the night.This.
Post by: Ultimuh on September 28, 2011, 11:40:50 am
Post by: evilcherry on September 28, 2011, 12:04:46 pm
Have Franz go into the forest with an armed worker as a guard, and start cutting more trees.Stop the tree cutting for the moment.
We need all hands on food. 2 days stock is just minimum.
Post by: Ultimuh on September 28, 2011, 12:07:36 pm
Have Franz go into the forest with an armed worker as a guard, and start cutting more trees.Stop the tree cutting for the moment.
We need all hands on food. 2 days stock is just minimum.
Yes, more food is needed.
Have some people hunt those.. Uh.. they haven't been named yet..
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 28, 2011, 12:09:16 pm
I still say Hornbarks.Have Franz go into the forest with an armed worker as a guard, and start cutting more trees.Stop the tree cutting for the moment.
We need all hands on food. 2 days stock is just minimum.
Yes, more food is needed.
Have some people hunt those.. Uh.. they haven't been named yet..
Post by: Ultimuh on September 28, 2011, 12:10:48 pm
I still say Hornbarks.Have Franz go into the forest with an armed worker as a guard, and start cutting more trees.Stop the tree cutting for the moment.
We need all hands on food. 2 days stock is just minimum.
Yes, more food is needed.
Have some people hunt those.. Uh.. they haven't been named yet..
Rexhorn
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 28, 2011, 12:13:22 pm
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 28, 2011, 12:59:56 pm
Not everything needs to be named after a villager. >.<I disagree.
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 28, 2011, 01:49:13 pm
We need someone to work on getting the sinew into a bow
Post by: Ahra on September 28, 2011, 01:53:20 pm
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 28, 2011, 02:06:14 pm
Post by: Alternatecash on September 28, 2011, 02:09:49 pm
We need meat, leather and I have an idea for the horns and bones. We can also boil the hooves down for glue.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laminated_bow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laminated_bow)
Post by: Ahra on September 28, 2011, 02:11:02 pm
edit: donesent that take forever to make those, or was that only the mongolian type?
Post by: Alternatecash on September 28, 2011, 02:16:47 pm
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 28, 2011, 02:16:59 pm
Post by: Ahra on September 28, 2011, 02:24:23 pm
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 28, 2011, 02:25:57 pm
I'm not against hunting one for now, but I'm concerned for the amount of damage they could deal and our lack of medical skill and supplies (thank goodness for cloth, though).
Post by: QuakeIV on September 28, 2011, 02:28:53 pm
Also, work on developing rolphin oil extraction technology.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 28, 2011, 02:34:11 pm
Also, work on developing rolphin oil extraction technology.
We have clay jars and cloth. That's all you really need.
Post by: Ahra on September 28, 2011, 02:36:25 pm
Post by: The Merchant Of Menace on September 28, 2011, 02:37:05 pm
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 28, 2011, 02:37:26 pm
and for salt you only need some saltwater to dry (dunno if were by a lake or an ocean)we're by a lake, that's where we drink.
Post by: Ahra on September 28, 2011, 02:39:44 pm
Post by: Alternatecash on September 28, 2011, 02:40:03 pm
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 28, 2011, 02:40:55 pm
Post by: Alternatecash on September 28, 2011, 02:41:50 pm
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 28, 2011, 02:44:29 pm
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 28, 2011, 02:49:07 pm
Post by: Ahra on September 28, 2011, 02:50:25 pm
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 28, 2011, 05:58:44 pm
Or build some kind of wall around the shore to the lake. i worry about lake beasts or what will happen if the orange slime try to flank us.
Post by: adwarf on September 28, 2011, 06:09:49 pm
We should tame some rolphins.We fend them off with Spears, Axes, and Green Sword that is what we do.
Or build some kind of wall around the shore to the lake. i worry about lake beasts or what will happen if the orange slime try to flank us.
Post by: Ahra on September 28, 2011, 06:59:17 pm
but food first
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 28, 2011, 07:21:21 pm
We should also snag some nails from those merchants before the day is over (if we can) and make sure we have enough rope for a fishing net. Using the nails, we could build a small fishing boat, and obtain a lot more Rolphin or whatever else that way.
Post by: Alternatecash on September 28, 2011, 07:55:48 pm
Post by: Zako on September 28, 2011, 07:58:44 pm
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 28, 2011, 08:20:30 pm
It might have some nails in the planks we could use, which could come in handy.
YES.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 28, 2011, 08:39:05 pm
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The lookout has spotted traders and Picky apporaching from the north!
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Post by: Alternatecash on September 28, 2011, 08:46:14 pm
Post by: Hitty40 on September 28, 2011, 08:46:50 pm
So, votes people; Wooden bear traps or Punji traps? We want some meat on the menu!
Serrated Blade Traps!
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 28, 2011, 08:53:41 pm
So, votes people; Wooden bear traps or Punji traps? We want some meat on the menu!
Definitely baited punji traps.
In fact, I'm a proponent of digging them throughout the forest around the old cabin. Later we can put cages inside some, and tame/sell what those catch. I'm willing to bet that some of the hides will fetch top yollar, too.
As a plus, they might also trap a few of the baddies on their way to the village at night. We should probably put up signs, though... having "migrants" or other passerby falling in would be pretty messed up.
Post by: Alternatecash on September 28, 2011, 09:28:55 pm
Post by: adwarf on September 28, 2011, 09:35:15 pm
"If you can read this sign,hold very stillclimb into a tree and cry like a child until you're rescued."
Fixed that for ya.
Post by: Powder Miner on September 28, 2011, 09:36:10 pm
"If you can read this sign,hold very stillclimb into a tree andcry like a childscream "STOP POKING ME!" until you're rescued."
Fixed that for ya.
Further fixed that for ya.
Post by: Zako on September 28, 2011, 10:41:21 pm
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 29, 2011, 12:16:44 am
Edit: We need to get some animal by-product facilities up quick, so that we dont waste any precious animal products.
Bone glue making stuff, tanning tubs, drying racks.
Anything good would be nice!
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 29, 2011, 01:06:14 am
Soon as we get sinew, im voting for a trap that flings a spear at you once you trip a "wire", thereby stabbing you from beneath.
Edit: We need to get some animal by-product facilities up quick, so that we dont waste any precious animal products.
Bone glue making stuff, tanning tubs, drying racks.
Anything good would be nice!
I second this. If we plane a log, we should be able to make the tubs rather quickly.
Post by: Zako on September 29, 2011, 02:15:23 am
Also, we don't need spears and sinew to make a spring trap, we just need springy branches and sticks, tie sharpened stakes to a spring of twined springy branches and fasten this in cover somewhere, and bend the branch back. It's good for trapping animals and making booby traps. We can also do the same thing with a standing tree and instead of stakes, we can make a noose of some kind that whips victims into the air when triggered.
Post by: Alternatecash on September 29, 2011, 02:24:03 am
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 29, 2011, 02:27:51 am
So, who are we designating to trap the Hades out of the forest? Begin woodsman training on one of the peasants!
We can't train the peasants, or so word on the street is.
Franz would make the perfect woodsman. You know, because he's French.
Post by: Zako on September 29, 2011, 02:33:11 am
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 29, 2011, 03:20:12 am
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Blackwood Cave ahead
Do not enter
Do not enter
From this sign they guess that this forest may be "Blackwood" and remark on what a cliche the name is (although it does make sense considering what goes on at night).
Village:
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They are also here to trade.
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Weapons:
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The traders do not want construction materials
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Post by: ed boy on September 29, 2011, 03:23:16 am
Also, how much tidal action does that body of water see? If there's enough, we could try to build one of there (http://www.scribd.com/doc/29890953/A-Long-Term-Survival-Guide-How-to-Make-Tidal-Fish-Traps).
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 29, 2011, 03:25:47 am
I think the South Stonemeadow offer is better than the West Bogshire offer, so if we were to accept one we should go with the South Stonemeadow mercantile guild.
Post by: Alternatecash on September 29, 2011, 03:36:38 am
Hans and Rex should look at the skeleton. We should also try to at least get the woodworking kit.This, as well as training Franz as a woodsman and having him litter the forest with traps.
I think the South Stonemeadow offer is better than the West Bogshire offer, so if we were to accept one we should go with the South Stonemeadow mercantile guild.
Post by: Ahra on September 29, 2011, 03:59:53 am
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 29, 2011, 04:21:10 am
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 29, 2011, 04:30:05 am
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 29, 2011, 04:55:44 am
so far, we know one is more industrious than the other, because they brought woodworking tools and a spearhead.
The other ones brought seeds, but did however bring a GM sword, but I think till we learn what other items both have, we should remain neutral.
loot the skeleton, grab some orange fruits, look at what seem to be cellerhans over in the top left.
Get anyone spare back at the village gathering food
Sell five spears and a pot of oil, buy the BM spear tip and the woodworking kit, and attach.
Give spear to next in line in militia
Afaik, green is better than blue?
Post by: Ahra on September 29, 2011, 06:39:06 am
Post by: evilcherry on September 29, 2011, 06:49:52 am
I need to emphasize we need 2 days of food in stock, at least, before engaging in anything else.
Post by: Ahra on September 29, 2011, 06:54:19 am
Post by: evilcherry on September 29, 2011, 06:56:07 am
well he did say ssomething about big horns claws(wtf)Aren't there a group of Giant land Jaians in the plains?
Even picking berries would be more productive than what we're doing now.
Post by: Ahra on September 29, 2011, 07:00:54 am
Post by: adwarf on September 29, 2011, 07:04:02 am
... you know i forgot about the jaians, should we butcher some? (we just got some from the merchants)We didn't get Jaians from the merchant's we got stuff to make a pack jaian minus the jaian, also we have all day to gather food, and one fish haul with a worker, and our fisherman brings in about 30 food. All we need to do is bring in one fish haul, and two jaians, and we should have plenty of food for awhile, and don't forget about our bucket of Jaian milk we could turn into cheese with the right tools.
EDIT: Which reminds me Lincoln you need to put a pot of milk in our inventory screen for it seems you forgot to put it in there.
Post by: RulerOfNothing on September 29, 2011, 07:04:53 am
Post by: evilcherry on September 29, 2011, 07:42:02 am
Because we will then have 2 days to spend all hands on if we need something else done really quickly. Our defenses seems to be at least adequate for the threat we are seeing - they can use improvements of course, but will do for now. I admit that we need more living space, but we have the materials to construct them, and we can house everyone by tomorrow sunset. This already accounts for the time needed for food.... you know i forgot about the jaians, should we butcher some? (we just got some from the merchants)We didn't get Jaians from the merchant's we got stuff to make a pack jaian minus the jaian, also we have all day to gather food, and one fish haul with a worker, and our fisherman brings in about 30 food. All we need to do is bring in one fish haul, and two jaians, and we should have plenty of food for awhile, and don't forget about our bucket of Jaian milk we could turn into cheese with the right tools.
EDIT: Which reminds me Lincoln you need to put a pot of milk in our inventory screen for it seems you forgot to put it in there.
One fish haul is just 30 food. We need 66 for a day. That is we need at least 132 in stock to keep the village running (at max efficiency) for two days. Or five hauls. Which is a lot of time.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 29, 2011, 07:59:43 am
I agree with evilcherry that we should pick the berries that are inside and next to our village.You are picking the berries. IF i recall correctly 3 people are doing it. Franz a worker and Jaian.
EDIT: Which reminds me Lincoln you need to put a pot of milk in our inventory screen for it seems you forgot to put it in there.
If i recall all the milk got drunk a while ago. (I just forgot to remove it)
Afaik, green is better than blue?
I said in the author notes a while ago that it was. It goes: grey < blue < green < yellow < orange < red
I don't know if all of these metals are derived from ores so there is a possability some are made some other way(Magicaly enhancing grey metal)
Actually, we should ask what services the South Stonemeadow mercantile guild can offer us.(seeing as they are offering 50% off on all services)Services are just things like getting people to come to the village. And extra money that will be charged if you suddenly order something they wouldn't normaly have access to.
The problem is, we dont know what the respective traders supply.The stonemeadow guys come from the hills so they have more access to metals and stone. And the Bogshire guys are coastal and near the plains so they would have more access to agricultural and fishing products(although they would still have metals through trade with smaller villages or maybe if the other metals are infact obtained in ways that aren't mining).
I am pretty tired right now(like i pretty much always am) so I might sound rude or stuff might not make to much sense.
Edit: My power went out just as I sent that so I am amazed that went through.
Post by: Ahra on September 29, 2011, 08:15:22 am
Post by: Zako on September 29, 2011, 08:29:49 am
Have everyone at camp who isn't busy at the villiage begin making a house out of sticks and clay, as I have said before. We need more shelter than just the rickety thing we have now.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 29, 2011, 08:31:09 am
so we could hire some i dunno masons for help with walls later on?As long as you can pay them.
Edit: I probabley diddn't make this clear but the 50% discount doesn't effect the wages you have to pay the people you hire, just how much the merchant charges for arranging it.
Post by: evilcherry on September 29, 2011, 08:57:20 am
I say that for the time being, we remain neutral until we find out more about both of these regions. And yes, we should buy the woodworking kit and at LEAST 1 spearhead. Metal spears are a lot more effective than our wooden ones.Food before shelter. I insist.
Have everyone at camp who isn't busy at the villiage begin making a house out of sticks and clay, as I have said before. We need more shelter than just the rickety thing we have now.
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 29, 2011, 09:04:39 am
Post by: Ahra on September 29, 2011, 09:12:29 am
Ask the traders what the blue liquid is.you know that is an very good question.
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 29, 2011, 09:53:04 am
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 29, 2011, 09:54:29 am
Have the builders make a brick house.Nay. leave the bricks alone for now. Wattle and daub, for now, with a lumber frame.
Post by: Roboboy33 on September 29, 2011, 09:57:39 am
What else are we going to do with 175 bricks?Have the builders make a brick house.Nay. leave the bricks alone for now. Wattle and daub, for now, with a lumber frame.
Post by: Ultimuh on September 29, 2011, 09:58:46 am
What else are we going to do with 175 bricks?Have the builders make a brick house.Nay. leave the bricks alone for now. Wattle and daub, for now, with a lumber frame.
Save them for later.
They could be used for more important constructions.
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 29, 2011, 10:02:17 am
I don't know about a house but I think we should certainly build up a communal shelter that is more durable than the one we have now which is made of sticks and leaves. If we get some bad weather here, we're going to be screwed.What else are we going to do with 175 bricks?Have the builders make a brick house.Nay. leave the bricks alone for now. Wattle and daub, for now, with a lumber frame.
Save them for later.
They could be used for more important constructions.
Post by: Ultimuh on September 29, 2011, 10:03:24 am
I don't know about a house but I think we should certainly build up a communal shelter that is more durable than the one we have now which is made of sticks and leaves. If we get some bad weather here, we're going to be screwed.What else are we going to do with 175 bricks?Have the builders make a brick house.Nay. leave the bricks alone for now. Wattle and daub, for now, with a lumber frame.
Save them for later.
They could be used for more important constructions.
Bricks are not the only durable materials around.
Neither ae wood.
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 29, 2011, 10:10:51 am
Bricks are not the only durable materials around.Alternative then? I said bricks because they're plentiful and require no non-renewable resource.
Neither ae wood.
Post by: evilcherry on September 29, 2011, 10:16:42 am
Phase -1: FOOD. No shelter before food, please. I'll continue to oppose any work done on housing until we have 2 days of food at night. I insist, urge, mandate, any-action, anyway.
Phase 0: Finish up the dirt wall. A proper cover can make us fight much, much more effectively.
Meanwhile, if needed, another makeshift shelter, in SE of the fire. It seems we do not need much time to set it up.
Phase 1: Mud huts. They will be in the SW direction of the fire, and would become our future workshops. 3 or 4, each houses 2, will suffice. Our supply of branches and mud should be adequate.
Phase 1.5: We can pull down the original shelter for Phase 2.
Phase 2: Extend the watch tower into a wooden barracks/armory. It will become our sleeping area in the meantime, until phase 3 is completed. We have more than enough wood for that.
Phase 2.5: Churn out more bricks. We may pull down the second shelter if we need space.
Phase 2.75: Finish off the dirt wall with bricks on the outer side, for a vertical surface. This would need somewhere like 500+ bricks for a rough estimate.
Phase 3: Brick houses for everyone. Each would require somewhere like 100 bricks, sans roof. Of course, we can just continue with mud huts.
p.s. Maybe its from where I live IRL. A house? that is already a real, real luxury, unless you are blessed with good ancenstry that entitles you a parcel of land to build your personal 3-storey house (700sqft per floor), and most of them sell this right for half a million anyway. Most of us have only 100-200 sqft per person, in multistorey apartments. So you can see housing be on very, very low on my list.
Post by: Ultimuh on September 29, 2011, 10:18:58 am
If you are talking about shelter...
Phase -1: FOOD. No shelter before food, please. I'll continue to oppose any work done on housing until we have 2 days of food at night. I insist, urge, mandate, any-action, anyway.
Phase 0: Finish up the dirt wall. A proper cover can make us fight much, much more effectively.
Meanwhile, if needed, another makeshift shelter, in SE of the fire. It seems we do not need much time to set it up.
Phase 1: Mud huts. They will be in the SW direction of the fire, and would become our future workshops. 3 or 4, each houses 2, will suffice. Our supply of branches and mud should be adequate.
Phase 1.5: We can pull down the original shelter for Phase 2.
Phase 2: Extend the watch tower into a wooden barracks/armory. It will become our sleeping area in the meantime, until phase 3 is completed. We have more than enough wood for that.
Phase 2.5: Churn out more bricks. We may pull down the second shelter if we need space.
Phase 2.75: Finish off the dirt wall with bricks on the outer side, for a vertical surface. This would need somewhere like 500+ bricks for a rough estimate.
Phase 3: Brick houses for everyone. Each would require somewhere like 100 bricks, sans roof. Of course, we can just continue with mud huts.
I agree of doing things in this order.
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 29, 2011, 10:19:45 am
[Brilliant Ideas]I agree.
Post by: K17U on September 29, 2011, 10:34:03 am
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 29, 2011, 10:35:42 am
[Brilliant Ideas]I agree.
On board.
Also:
- Ask about the blue liquid.
- Inquire as to the geographic, economic, and political significances of Stonemeadow (in a very polite manner).
- Inquire to the merchants what sort of good they are looking for, and what they think their guild can supply (again, be tactful)
- Carefully ask about "Imperials," relating them to hearsay.
- Don't sell that pot of oil; we might need a grenade at some point
Post by: JacenHanLovesLegos on September 29, 2011, 11:42:49 am
Everything here.[Brilliant Ideas]I agree.
On board.
Also:
- Ask about the blue liquid.
- Inquire as to the geographic, economic, and political significances of Stonemeadow (in a very polite manner).
- Inquire to the merchants what sort of good they are looking for, and what they think their guild can supply (again, be tactful)
- Carefully ask about "Imperials," relating them to hearsay.
- Don't sell that pot of oil; we might need a grenade at some point
Post by: Supernerd on September 29, 2011, 01:01:20 pm
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 29, 2011, 01:42:22 pm
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 29, 2011, 02:11:58 pm
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 29, 2011, 02:13:20 pm
Take the path of murder and cannibalism.Nyet, Nyet, Nyet. That means no trade, ever.
Post by: Alternatecash on September 29, 2011, 04:30:26 pm
Quote pyramid ahoy![Brilliant Ideas]I agree.
On board.
Also:
- Ask about the blue liquid.
- Inquire as to the geographic, economic, and political significances of Stonemeadow (in a very polite manner).
- Inquire to the merchants what sort of good they are looking for, and what they think their guild can supply (again, be tactful)
- Carefully ask about "Imperials," relating them to hearsay.
- Don't sell that pot of oil; we might need a grenade at some point
Post by: ed boy on September 29, 2011, 04:43:35 pm
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 29, 2011, 05:28:04 pm
Also, see if these lot know anything about the beasties we've been facing.They prabably don't the last bunch of traders laughed it off like the monsters were just stories. I think without proof like a captured monster they won't believe us. Plus i think if we do catch a monster it'll burn to death in the sun or something. If they don't I suggest Pokemon style mon Vs mon pitfights.
Post by: adwarf on September 29, 2011, 05:29:03 pm
For the MONEYS !!!!Also, see if these lot know anything about the beasties we've been facing.They prabably don't the last bunch of traders laughed it off like the monsters were just stories. I think without proof like a captured monster they won't believe us. Plus i think if we do catch a monster it'll burn to death in the sun or something. If they don't I suggest Pokemon style mon Vs mon pitfights.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 29, 2011, 05:40:21 pm
Post by: adwarf on September 29, 2011, 05:44:18 pm
Ah, I can see it now. The descendants of our settlers will dress outlandishly, then leave the village at sunset to capture all sorts of wildlife ranging from wailing ghosts and acid-spitting spiders to house flies and kiwi fruit, then return before dawn to pit them against one another in extremely linear combat that usually involves the one with the greatest agility knocking out the other in one hit.The fun they shall have as their pockets grow full from the gold of nobles who come to watch, and bet in our master arena where we charge 500 yollars for a back row seat, and 5000 for a front row seat.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 29, 2011, 05:48:30 pm
Ah, I can see it now. The descendants of our settlers will dress outlandishly, then leave the village at sunset to capture all sorts of wildlife ranging from wailing ghosts and acid-spitting spiders to house flies and kiwi fruit, then return before dawn to pit them against one another in extremely linear combat that usually involves the one with the greatest agility knocking out the other in one hit.The fun they shall have as their pockets grow full from the gold of nobles who come to watch, and bet in our master arena where we charge 500 yollars for a back row seat, and 5000 for a front row seat.
I think... we might just be one to something here, friends. Imagine all the wonderful monstrosities lying in wait within that forest cavern, ask ask yourselves... do we really want to destroy the source of these things?
And bricks houses..? HA! We could build an arena instead!
Let's try to capture one of those baddies when night falls. I'm interested to see if they can be captured.
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 29, 2011, 05:50:33 pm
To that end, someone (Jaian?) should construct a cage from sticks, with a hollow bottom, to drop over a slime.Ah, I can see it now. The descendants of our settlers will dress outlandishly, then leave the village at sunset to capture all sorts of wildlife ranging from wailing ghosts and acid-spitting spiders to house flies and kiwi fruit, then return before dawn to pit them against one another in extremely linear combat that usually involves the one with the greatest agility knocking out the other in one hit.The fun they shall have as their pockets grow full from the gold of nobles who come to watch, and bet in our master arena where we charge 500 yollars for a back row seat, and 5000 for a front row seat.
I think... we might just be one to something here, friends. Imagine all the wonderful monstrosities lying in wait within that forest cavern, ask ask yourselves... do we really want to destroy the source of these things?
And bricks houses..? HA! We could build an arena instead!
Let's try to capture one of those baddies when night falls. I'm interested to see if they can be captured.
Post by: adwarf on September 29, 2011, 06:11:59 pm
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 29, 2011, 06:12:43 pm
Once we capture a slime, and stickman lets stick them in the same cage, and make it as confined as possible to see if they fuse, and make aslimemanslickman
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 29, 2011, 06:29:07 pm
Post by: ed boy on September 29, 2011, 06:29:41 pm
Well, there's no harm in asking. If you don't want to look silly, then don't mention monsters, just say to them 'By the way, we've been seeing some strange beasties in the forest?'. If worst comes to worst, we can bluff and say we were talking about rexhorns.Also, see if these lot know anything about the beasties we've been facing.They prabably don't the last bunch of traders laughed it off like the monsters were just stories. I think without proof like a captured monster they won't believe us. Plus i think if we do catch a monster it'll burn to death in the sun or something. If they don't I suggest Pokemon style mon Vs mon pitfights.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 29, 2011, 06:39:42 pm
Well, there's no harm in asking. If you don't want to look silly, then don't mention monsters, just say to them 'By the way, we've been seeing some strange beasties in the forest?'. If worst comes to worst, we can bluff and say we were talking about rexhorns.Also, see if these lot know anything about the beasties we've been facing.They prabably don't the last bunch of traders laughed it off like the monsters were just stories. I think without proof like a captured monster they won't believe us. Plus i think if we do catch a monster it'll burn to death in the sun or something. If they don't I suggest Pokemon style mon Vs mon pitfights.
Post by: stabbymcstabstab on September 29, 2011, 06:59:58 pm
Post by: Evil Lincoln on September 29, 2011, 07:22:30 pm
- Ask about the blue liquid.
- Inquire as to the geographic, economic, and political significances of Stonemeadow (in a very polite manner).
- Inquire to the merchants what sort of good they are looking for, and what they think their guild can supply (again, be tactful)
- Carefully ask about "Imperials," relating them to hearsay.
That there liquid is simple blue dye.
Stonemeadow is a mighty city state which controls most of the metal deposits in the region this gives us an advantage over the Bogshireians who have to import their metals by sea. Unfortunatly we have little land that can be cultivated so we must keep our population relatively small or we cannot sustain it.
Food is good, fish especially since we are landlocked. We can of course supply you with the metals you may require except orangemetal as large quantities of oil are needed to refine it from greymetal.
The Imperials? The empire of david used to control all of these lands, from the sea to the mountains far to the north. But it collapsed many many years ago when king david died. His sons fought for the throne and caused the empire to split, each taking a major city and the surrounding lands. Stonemeadow and Bogshire were two of these cities.
Monsters you say? Well that is bad news, I thought those stories were old wives tales.
Sorry I don't have the time for an actual update.
Also you guys are talking about building houses and tearing them down. As the author I want to see this village stop looking like a dump so if Jaian was put in charge of the workers and they worked on a wooden framed brick house i'd let that be built in about 5 turns or so. That still leaves you with 4 people to gather food even with Rex and Hans out in the forest.
Post by: stabbymcstabstab on September 29, 2011, 07:35:19 pm
Post by: Hitty40 on September 29, 2011, 07:36:47 pm
We should go with stonemeadow they can help us protect our village and we can start farming soon if the send a few guards.
Or we can conquer it for ourselves.
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 29, 2011, 08:50:41 pm
Post by: adwarf on September 29, 2011, 08:54:00 pm
Have jaian build a House out of bricks with a strong wooden door. And possibly strong wooden window shutters. make it big enough to house the entire village and then some.Veto !!! We need bricks for our wall we can make the houses out of a combination planks, mud, sticks, and leaves to make a very good shelter, so save the bricks for the wall.
Post by: Hitty40 on September 29, 2011, 08:56:59 pm
Have jaian build a House out of bricks with a strong wooden door. And possibly strong wooden window shutters. make it big enough to house the entire village and then some.Veto !!! We need bricks for our wall we can make the houses out of a combination planks, mud, sticks, and leaves to make a very good shelter, so save the bricks for the wall.
Agree. Veto.
Post by: adwarf on September 29, 2011, 08:57:59 pm
Post by: evilcherry on September 29, 2011, 09:13:53 pm
Veto. I mean everyone on food. Even if that means the village will continue to look like a dump for another day or two.Have jaian build a House out of bricks with a strong wooden door. And possibly strong wooden window shutters. make it big enough to house the entire village and then some.Veto !!! We need bricks for our wall we can make the houses out of a combination planks, mud, sticks, and leaves to make a very good shelter, so save the bricks for the wall.
Agree. Veto.
Post by: adwarf on September 29, 2011, 09:20:31 pm
We don't even have the stuff to gather food since we only have one spearVeto. I mean everyone on food. Even if that means the village will continue to look like a dump for another day or two.Agree. Veto.Have jaian build a House out of bricks with a strong wooden door. And possibly strong wooden window shutters. make it big enough to house the entire village and then some.Veto !!! We need bricks for our wall we can make the houses out of a combination planks, mud, sticks, and leaves to make a very good shelter, so save the bricks for the wall.
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on September 29, 2011, 10:00:10 pm
Post by: evilcherry on September 29, 2011, 11:22:41 pm
I reckon we got 10.We don't even have the stuff to gather food since we only have one spearVeto. I mean everyone on food. Even if that means the village will continue to look like a dump for another day or two.Agree. Veto.Have jaian build a House out of bricks with a strong wooden door. And possibly strong wooden window shutters. make it big enough to house the entire village and then some.Veto !!! We need bricks for our wall we can make the houses out of a combination planks, mud, sticks, and leaves to make a very good shelter, so save the bricks for the wall.
But I agree 20 will be a better number. We shall have spares.
Post by: QuakeIV on September 29, 2011, 11:49:36 pm
Spears seem to be easy money, I suggest we make like fifty and start fire hardening them for the next caravan.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 30, 2011, 01:29:45 am
1.) Provided it is as useful and open-ended as it seems (hiring builders, guards, etc.) their discount on goods and services far outweighs what the Bogshire folks offered us.
2.) Ready supply of metal and metal tools. Like it Dwarf Fortress, most industries just take the proper infrastructure, resources, and workforce. Finished goods are exactly what a small village like ours needs, and agriculture is exactly what we can provide.
3.) Stonemeadow's small population. I see this potentially benefiting us, in that they are unlikely to have a large army that could march against us. We're certainly no fortress, but if one of the two sought to expand, I'm pretty sure the other would intervene. Of course, this works both ways- if we find ourselves at ends with Bogshire, we might be outnumbered. But at least we'll have green metal. :P
4.) Stonemeadow lacks agricultural output. Aside from being as easy niche for us to fill while still filling our own bellies, what this means is that Stonemeadowers looking for a better way of life may be likely to find their way to New Hope and help us grow. Having good relations with their country of origin would be a good thing- in time, they might see us as a sister state.
5.) Stonemeadow seems to need what we have, i.e. food. If we give it to them in fair trade, we will lessen the possibility of them taking it by force. We might even earn their protection in goodwill if those towns to the north get pushy.
I am still interested in hearing what Bogshire has to say about themselves (and Stonemeadow, for that matter), and to that end I think we should send a runner, but I find our current guests and their offer rather appealing.
Post by: Armok on September 30, 2011, 04:49:11 am
Also, those are some rock-solid arguments Ibid. I REALLY think we should go with that.
Post by: ed boy on September 30, 2011, 05:32:12 am
> Everyone should be either making spears, or fishing, in whatever distribution maximizes net value over the long term.Much seconding of this.
Also, those are some rock-solid arguments Ibid. I REALLY think we should go with that.
Post by: Alternatecash on September 30, 2011, 05:46:47 am
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on September 30, 2011, 06:35:21 am
Post by: evilcherry on September 30, 2011, 06:46:49 am
I propose that we can decide by making a few polls:
1. What to do next? -Food, Wall, Housing, Industry. I'm not saying that they can't go on at the same time, but there should be some kind of focus. While the more specilized chromosians can carry on with their best job, eventually there will be a someone free.
2. What kind of house we are going to build? We see mud/mudbrick, Brick, Timber/brick, and timber. All are viable, though anything using bricks would need a lot of effort in procuring bricks.
3. Industry - I can see pottery/earthenware, wooden wares/quarterstaffs, and food export. This would also impart our trade deal, since one of them is clearly lacking food, while the other is lacking metal.
4. Wall - are we going to build the wall or not? though I can see this as a lower priority unless everyone voted yes.
Me:
1: Food; 2. Mud; 3. Pottery; 4. Brick on outside, dirt inside
Post by: Armok on September 30, 2011, 07:16:02 am
Post by: ed boy on September 30, 2011, 09:14:06 am
Some people are saying that it would be best to built the wall out of bricks, becuase they are strong. However, the number of situations in which the physical strength of a brick wall would be needed is absurdly small. The physical strength of a wall is irrelevant, as long as it posesses at least some minor degree of strength. A dirt wall, possibly reinforced with timber, would certainly have the required strength. It would also be a lot easier and faster to build than a brick wall. Furthermore, such a dirt wall can easily be made thick enough to stand on, whereas a brick wall tall enough to be effective and thick enough to stand on will need an obscene number of bricks.
Concerning the structure of the shelter, the physical strength is also not important, as long as it is strong enough to withstand the weather. If any attackers manage to make it to the shelter, then we're definitely doing something wrong.
Concerning the traders, I suggest we side with the second ones. Not only will their service discount potentially be very lucrative, but we have plenty of access to exactly the stuff they need - food and land.
For the industry, I suggest that we focus heavily on food, especially fish. Not only are our own supplies dangerously low, but the traders are in big demand for food, which means we can get a really good price from them.
I would like to propose the following plan of action for the buildings in the settlement:
First, we build the wall. It will be made out of dirt, about three feet thick (so people can stand on it), and the edge that faces the moat will be plated with timber, so we have a strong vertical surface there.
Once we have a section of the wall up, we can start to build the shelter. We can make a mud structure, using the inside of the settlement wall as the rear wall of the shelter.
Now, a few points I'd like to make about the possible building materials:
Bricks are not good. In fact, bricks are very bad. Not only do we have the issue about the strength being not needed, bricks take obscenely long to produce. Our current brick stockpile is 182 bricks, after we spend pretty much a whole day with two chromes working solidly on them. If we take a chrome to be about six feet tall, we have roughly enough bricks to build a wall six feet tall and six feet long. In order to build a brick house big enough for just one or two, we would need hundreds, possibly thousands of bricks. In order to build a brick wall around the settlement, we would need tens of thousands of bricks. The time required to manufacture so many bricks, let alone assemble them into a wall, would be far, far too much.
Mud, on the other hand, is good. Mud buildings are plenty strong enough, can be build very fast, and have materials in abundance. Furthermore, the very act of harvesting additional material can do done in such a way that it expands out moat and makes our defences better.
Post by: The Merchant Of Menace on September 30, 2011, 09:53:45 am
Post by: JacenHanLovesLegos on September 30, 2011, 10:02:11 am
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 30, 2011, 01:44:35 pm
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 30, 2011, 02:15:18 pm
[wise words]+1
if i may suggest an architectural style, the beehive-shaped mud houses posted a while ago were just lovely
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Post by: evilcherry on September 30, 2011, 03:05:34 pm
I think its fine. But Lincoln seems to be very reluctant to implement these. He stated what he exactly wanted: A brick house with wooden frames. I think most of us will regard that as ultra-luxurious for our current needs.[wise words]+1
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Post by: forsaken1111 on September 30, 2011, 03:08:59 pm
I don't really. Having a single very well built structure is a good idea. It won't take that long to make it, nowhere near as long as a wall, and we probably have enough bricks and wood.I think its fine. But Lincoln seems to be very reluctant to implement these. He stated what he exactly wanted: A brick house with wooden frames. I think most of us will regard that as ultra-luxurious for our current needs.[wise words]+1
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Post by: evilcherry on September 30, 2011, 03:15:46 pm
Unless Lincoln magically says less than 200 bricks and a ton of wood can become a "very well built structure" that would satisfy our needs in the near future, I have to quite bluntly object.I don't really. Having a single very well built structure is a good idea. It won't take that long to make it, nowhere near as long as a wall, and we probably have enough bricks and wood.I think its fine. But Lincoln seems to be very reluctant to implement these. He stated what he exactly wanted: A brick house with wooden frames. I think most of us will regard that as ultra-luxurious for our current needs.[wise words]+1
if i may suggest an architectural style, the beehive-shaped mud houses posted a while ago were just lovelySpoiler (click to show/hide)
We do have more mud, twigs and timber than we need, yet bricks are a scarce resource. And bricks are not invulnerable anyway - just tricky to break.
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 30, 2011, 03:17:43 pm
Post by: ed boy on September 30, 2011, 03:25:18 pm
Eh, whatever. Its not worth arguing this again. Let's just live in crappy mud shacks like savages and do nothing at all with the bricks.It's not as if having bricks and not using them is going to cause us harm. Besides, we need to avoid the fallacy of sunk costs.
Post by: Alternatecash on September 30, 2011, 03:37:12 pm
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 30, 2011, 04:43:52 pm
Exactly. Throwing good resources at a bad idea never helped anyone. And that anglo-centric worldview of yours is going to get you in trouble someday, forsaken1111.
I love you.
Post by: micelus on September 30, 2011, 04:50:02 pm
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 30, 2011, 05:05:58 pm
Exactly. Throwing good resources at a bad idea never helped anyone. And that anglo-centric worldview of yours is going to get you in trouble someday, forsaken1111.Not really sure what you mean by this. I advocated building a brick structure to shelter us from severe weather, something which others have also said. What about this is 'anglo-centric'?
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 30, 2011, 05:55:18 pm
Post by: Alternatecash on September 30, 2011, 05:57:35 pm
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 30, 2011, 06:11:10 pm
I think he was mostly being sarcastic, but playing of the fact that the huts of the "savages" in question are really just the well-adapted and comfortable houses of a non-European culture.I wasn't commenting on the picture, I was commenting in the perception ingame that the traders will have of our naked stick-wielding mud-hut-dwelling villagers.
Brick houses are labor intensive and resist environmental extremes poorly, as sharp angles and sheer surfaces cope poorly with wind, rain, and snow. Mud structures insulate better, are easier to construct, and if needed, can be built to blend with the scenery better. Your only objection to them is that they're "Primitive". By whose standards?I don't object, and never said they're primitive. Can we stop bickering and just build something? I don't even care what any more.
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on September 30, 2011, 09:31:02 pm
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crappy mud shacks like savagesit implies something. for reference and comparission, mud brick might mean something like this
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also, arguing that building things out of bricks is anglocentric is actually anglocentric itself. many people built things out of bricks in many parts of the world before people in great britain ever did, and the english architecture, and culture in general, hasn't been that different from that of the rest of europe, so the word you guys are looking for is europocentric, even if it's still a bit fallacious.
Post by: forsaken1111 on September 30, 2011, 09:47:23 pm
Post by: Nightscar982 on September 30, 2011, 10:03:12 pm
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on September 30, 2011, 10:07:31 pm
Post by: adwarf on October 01, 2011, 08:47:03 am
Post by: Evil Lincoln on October 01, 2011, 06:49:25 pm
Lets just stop it already ok we can work it out later ::)
It stopped a day ago by my count, and then everyone was to embarresed to say anything else.
Thats right everyone. I found time to make a post in the thread rather then just watch it on my second screen with an auto refresh plugin. Probabley no update until tommorow though, still got to do a bit more of that important work. I've come to a decision that since it has taken 55 updates and no real progress has been made on the village i'm going to put in a timeskip sometime in the future. This timeskip will probabley take place after a certain event has happened. Then i'll come up with some system for letting you guys decide what industries to focus on. I'm thinking maybe i'll give you a number for the population and then you guys will pick the job distribution for them. Then i'll place buildings and such accordingly.
On the note of houses, I was thinking this is more an european-type area so wattle and dorb is fine with me but I am less comfortable with the mud idea. This is mostly because in my expirience you don't see many houses like the ones you posted in that area of the world. That sort of points to there being some problem with those sorts of houses in that climate (otherwise the locals might have been using them). Of course I don't really go around looking up building styles in my spare time so theres a good chance i'm wrong.
Post by: Hitty40 on October 01, 2011, 09:10:40 pm
Post by: Evil Lincoln on October 01, 2011, 09:33:24 pm
Just a quick question, what age are we in? It seems to me we are in a medieval age, with swords and such.
Yeah, just typical fantasy really.
Post by: Hitty40 on October 01, 2011, 09:34:44 pm
Just a quick question, what age are we in? It seems to me we are in a medieval age, with swords and such.
Yeah, just typical fantasy really.
So, modern age?
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on October 01, 2011, 09:41:16 pm
Post by: Roboboy33 on October 01, 2011, 09:50:19 pm
Post by: Ultimuh on October 01, 2011, 09:52:18 pm
Like space cowboys riding flying llamas that have laser eyes and are swooping down on people and carrying them to there home asteroid and eating them? That kind of fantasy?
Eh.. There are several types of fantasy, ranging from typical realistic medieval fantasy to what you just mentioned.
I think this is somewhere in between.
Post by: Hitty40 on October 01, 2011, 09:57:11 pm
no, typical fantasy means medieval-ish europe plus whatever the author may want to add
I'm used to having 'typical fantasy' be modern age(Usually about WWII to present). Literally.
Post by: Evil Lincoln on October 01, 2011, 10:07:26 pm
Post by: Hitty40 on October 01, 2011, 10:08:36 pm
Just to clarify this is medieval-ish. No guns, handcannons or simular things. Steam engines for industry are alright i guess but no automatons or anything to outlandish. There is already magic in the adventure in the form of the night creatures and such so there may be magic users but i'm probabley not going to have it be a common thing(it sorta ruins magic if everyone can do it).True. Of course, it might also be possible to gain new technology but no so much technology that it pretty much makes the game too easy, maybe?
Post by: Ultimuh on October 01, 2011, 10:10:25 pm
Just to clarify this is medieval-ish. No guns, handcannons or simular things. Steam engines for industry are alright i guess but no automatons or anything to outlandish. There is already magic in the adventure in the form of the night creatures and such so there may be magic users but i'm probabley not going to have it be a common thing(it sorta ruins magic if everyone can do it).True. Of course, it might also be possible to gain new technology, maybe?
Such as windmills town clocks perhaps?
Post by: Evil Lincoln on October 01, 2011, 10:12:58 pm
Just to clarify this is medieval-ish. No guns, handcannons or simular things. Steam engines for industry are alright i guess but no automatons or anything to outlandish. There is already magic in the adventure in the form of the night creatures and such so there may be magic users but i'm probabley not going to have it be a common thing(it sorta ruins magic if everyone can do it).True. Of course, it might also be possible to gain new technology, maybe?
Such as windmills town clocks perhaps?
I'll just go on a case by case basis for these things. windmills are fine and townclocks should be although some guy with no expirence shouldn't be able to cobble together a clock(or steam engine for that matter) so you'd probabley have to hire a specialist for those sorts of things.
Post by: Ultimuh on October 01, 2011, 10:24:04 pm
Just to clarify this is medieval-ish. No guns, handcannons or simular things. Steam engines for industry are alright i guess but no automatons or anything to outlandish. There is already magic in the adventure in the form of the night creatures and such so there may be magic users but i'm probabley not going to have it be a common thing(it sorta ruins magic if everyone can do it).True. Of course, it might also be possible to gain new technology, maybe?
Such as windmills town clocks perhaps?
whoops, forgot a comma in there..
Post by: QuakeIV on October 03, 2011, 12:36:38 am
I consider it high treason to allow this to fall off of the first page.
You are all to be beheaded.
(http://www.myfacewhen.com/images/43.jpg)
Post by: Evil Lincoln on October 03, 2011, 01:28:26 am
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Fraz hears the words 'woodworking' and decides that since it has wood involved and he is tired of picking berries he shall do the woodworking. For starters he attaches the bluemetal spearhead to a spear while he keeps watch.
The worker returns with his modest catch.
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Post by: ed boy on October 03, 2011, 03:11:24 am
Post by: evilcherry on October 03, 2011, 04:16:18 am
(although Lincoln will never listen) Drop everything else and go for food. If "sophistication" is the way, we may make a fish trap from wood.
Post by: RulerOfNothing on October 03, 2011, 04:50:37 am
That's why I say food first. We are going to just hang on tonight, if no other source food is found!I support this wholeheartedly.
(although Lincoln will never listen) Drop everything else and go for food. If "sophistication" is the way, we may make a fish trap from wood.
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on October 03, 2011, 07:04:43 am
Post by: RulerOfNothing on October 03, 2011, 07:15:20 am
what do you mean drop everything else and go for food? that's not a proper suggestionOur population currently consumes 33 units of food per meal. We only have 58 units of food. Therefore, we will run out of food by tomorrow morning. So therefore we should do something about our food situation.
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on October 03, 2011, 07:19:10 am
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on October 03, 2011, 07:25:43 am
Rex and 2 peasants should head back to the beach to fish
a civilian should take a shovel and a couple of spears and head to the forest. he will dig two pit traps next to the trees the hornbears feed on, and fix spears on the bottom of the pits, then conceal them with vegetation
Post by: Heron TSG on October 03, 2011, 08:20:57 am
Post by: forsaken1111 on October 03, 2011, 08:25:18 am
>The orange fruits shall now be known as sunfood!I vote instead for calling them Rexplums
Post by: JacenHanLovesLegos on October 03, 2011, 08:51:02 am
Post by: Ahra on October 03, 2011, 08:51:16 am
sunfoods better, maybe oranges?>The orange fruits shall now be known as sunfood!I vote instead for calling them Rexplums
Post by: Armok on October 03, 2011, 09:03:04 am
Post by: Roboboy33 on October 03, 2011, 09:13:28 am
No! Sarches!sunfoods better, maybe oranges?>The orange fruits shall now be known as sunfood!I vote instead for calling them Rexplums
Post by: Ultimuh on October 03, 2011, 09:55:11 am
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on October 03, 2011, 10:04:38 am
Post by: forsaken1111 on October 03, 2011, 10:20:47 am
Sunplums, in the name of diplomacy, and because it actually sounds deliciousIt does sound tasty
Post by: Ultimuh on October 03, 2011, 10:21:28 am
Sunplums, in the name of diplomacy, and because it actually sounds deliciousIt does sound tasty
Mmm.. Sunplums..
Post by: Roboboy33 on October 03, 2011, 10:59:44 am
It should be named the Fruit Fruit.Sunplums, in the name of diplomacy, and because it actually sounds deliciousIt does sound tasty
Mmm.. Sunplums..
Post by: QuakeIV on October 03, 2011, 12:41:41 pm
Compulsory edit:
Also, I suggest you start making the findings slightly more dramatic, so we get some idea of what is about to happen.
Post by: Ahra on October 03, 2011, 12:56:06 pm
+1Mmm.. Sunplums..Sunplums, in the name of diplomacy, and because it actually sounds deliciousIt does sound tasty
Post by: Ultimuh on October 03, 2011, 12:59:39 pm
Post by: kaian-a-coel on October 03, 2011, 01:07:34 pm
I suggest to farm them in the future, for food&money.
Post by: Askot Bokbondeler on October 03, 2011, 01:18:06 pm
Post by: Ultimuh on October 03, 2011, 01:39:37 pm
Post by: Alternatecash on October 03, 2011, 03:00:29 pm
Post by: stabbymcstabstab on October 03, 2011, 06:34:05 pm
Harvest all the Sunplums and domesticate the Cellerhans. Perhaps we can train them as watch animals, like the Egyptians did with cats. Have Franz weave some of the surplus sticks into funnel traps for fishing.seconded.
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on October 03, 2011, 10:11:23 pm
Harvest all the Sunplums and domesticate the Cellerhans. Perhaps we can train them as watch animals, like the Egyptians did with cats. Have Franz weave some of the surplus sticks into funnel traps for fishing.seconded.
Thirdated.
Post by: micelus on October 03, 2011, 10:31:46 pm
Harvest all the Sunplums and domesticate the Cellerhans. Perhaps we can train them as watch animals, like the Egyptians did with cats. Have Franz weave some of the surplus sticks into funnel traps for fishing.seconded.
Thirdated.
Fourthed.
Post by: Ultimuh on October 03, 2011, 10:40:54 pm
Harvest all the Sunplums and domesticate the Cellerhans. Perhaps we can train them as watch animals, like the Egyptians did with cats. Have Franz weave some of the surplus sticks into funnel traps for fishing.seconded.
Thirdated.
Fourthed.
I agree..
Whoops, did I just break the combo? :P
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on October 03, 2011, 11:28:56 pm
Harvest all the Sunplums and domesticate the Cellerhans. Perhaps we can train them as watch animals, like the Egyptians did with cats. Have Franz weave some of the surplus sticks into funnel traps for fishing.seconded.
Thirdated.
Fourthed.
I agree..
Whoops, did I just break the combo? :P
THats a Co-Co-Combo breaker!
Post by: Evil Lincoln on October 04, 2011, 03:38:28 am
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The barracks is coming along well.
Franz decides he will create some funnel traps for catching fish in.
All of the nearby berry bushes have been depleted.
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Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on October 04, 2011, 03:57:14 am
Post by: RulerOfNothing on October 04, 2011, 03:58:10 am
Post by: Alternatecash on October 04, 2011, 04:18:22 am
Have the people who were picking berries make some basketsStrip some leaves to see if they can be made into twine.
Post by: Jiokuy on October 04, 2011, 07:04:54 am
Remove teeth from skeleton. If they've been in a (What i assume is) mana contaminated forest for long enough mabye they'll work like dragons teeth from greek mythology. We can use them in our defences if they do.Or they will work like Roman mythology and try to kill us. I'm all for it either way ends in fun.
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on October 04, 2011, 07:53:16 am
Remove teeth from skeleton. If they've been in a (What i assume is) mana contaminated forest for long enough mabye they'll work like dragons teeth from greek mythology. We can use them in our defences if they do.Or they will work like Roman mythology and try to kill us. I'm all for it either way ends in fun.
Yeah Hans could use the practice.
Post by: evilcherry on October 04, 2011, 08:37:05 am
This "Drop all work and get food" thing is starting to get a bit annoying, theres plenty of food to go around with what you have since every morning Rex goes fishing and brings in almost enough to feed the village.
Then Rex should fish day sunrise to sunset. Have someone else do the cooking, or better, clean the guts and try to preserve it (We will have to buy some salt for the job).
Seriously, is getting just enough for the day "plenty of food to go around"? I'd prefer to have 2 day's worth of stock, at the very least, or the whole village should go into what I call the "drop everything and fish, hunt, and do whatever to increase food" mode. I wanted to make sure no one is immediately starving if there is a problem with our food supply.
Unless the word of god can assure us that food supply will be 100% stable and will be subject to no external conditions, I see no reason to have so little left over for the day.
Post by: lurtze1 on October 04, 2011, 10:42:46 am
Post by: Caz on October 04, 2011, 10:45:18 am
Unless the word of god can assure us that food supply will be 100% stable and will be subject to no external conditions, I see no reason to have so little left over for the day.
This, especially if we get seiged by enemies that we can't defeat in a day.
Post by: Monkeyfacedprickleback on October 04, 2011, 10:52:17 am
And let's not get pedantic about conditions for smoking fish and what's neccesary. lets just assume it works.
Post by: Alternatecash on October 05, 2011, 06:17:53 pm
Post by: Ultimuh on October 05, 2011, 06:19:26 pm
*prod* Has this game, too, fallen to my curse?
You are not very patient, are you?
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on October 05, 2011, 06:23:17 pm
neither am i.*prod* Has this game, too, fallen to my curse?
You are not very patient, are you?
Post by: Alternatecash on October 05, 2011, 06:43:16 pm
Post by: Evil Lincoln on October 06, 2011, 03:00:49 am
Thanks everyone for reading.
Officialy Cannon ending just incase I never update again and everyone needs closure bad:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: micelus on October 06, 2011, 03:31:48 am
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on October 06, 2011, 10:31:20 am
Thank you for hosting the game at all, Evil Lincoln. 'Twas fun while it lasted.
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on October 06, 2011, 10:36:30 am
Post by: forsaken1111 on October 06, 2011, 10:59:41 am
May we be allowed to put in a pester-post once a month or so, to see if you've become inspired once again?That will just spam the unread replies lists of everyone who has posted here and get our hopes up, and will serve no purpose.
Post by: Hubris Incalculable on October 06, 2011, 11:03:48 am
that's why i suggested such a wide interval - those who enjoy this thread will know what it means, if it's regular.May we be allowed to put in a pester-post once a month or so, to see if you've become inspired once again?That will just spam the unread replies lists of everyone who has posted here and get our hopes up, and will serve no purpose.
Post by: Supernerd on October 06, 2011, 12:42:57 pm
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Post by: forsaken1111 on October 06, 2011, 12:44:32 pm
Post by: Caz on October 06, 2011, 01:22:37 pm
Post by: Evil Lincoln on October 06, 2011, 04:05:48 pm
What happened to Hans after he went crazy and killed everyone?
He lived in the forest for several years until he tamed a savage Rexhorn. Using his new Rexhorn companion he rode agaisn't the barbarians in the west and lead a revolt amoung their Jaians. With their source of food rising up agaisnt them their long rein of terror was over and the western villages praised Hans as a saviour (until he went nuts and killed them too).
Post by: QuakeIV on October 06, 2011, 04:20:28 pm
Post by: Heron TSG on October 06, 2011, 11:30:11 pm
Post by: Evil Lincoln on October 07, 2011, 03:36:52 am
Huh, I was noticing an increasingly irritated tone in the updates.
It was really just frustration because it dawned on me that it was going to take forever to do the story at it's timescale and I was getting tired of doing it all together.
Aww. It was fun while it lasted. Would you mind if The Adventures of Hans were to be chronicled by someone else? Perhaps me using MS paint. Not right now, but in a while, if you don't pick this back up?This idea has my full support and I have no issues with it at all.
Post by: ansontan2000 on June 25, 2012, 03:26:18 am
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=112061 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=112061)