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Dwarf Fortress => DF Modding => Topic started by: taldarus on September 27, 2015, 07:38:38 pm

Title: Erm...Wolverine?
Post by: taldarus on September 27, 2015, 07:38:38 pm
I was trying to figure out how to create a playable undead creature for fortress mode. Medicine doesn't work, and dfhack isn't my cup of tea. Eventually your undead wounded start pilling up in an unsightly fashion. It was mostly random changes when I realized it was very similar to something I was familiar with.

So it had a lot of the [NOPAIN][NOFEAR][NONAUSEA] etc...

Nerves -> Set to regen
Attribute Recuperation -> Set them high, in a standard curve, but MIGHT reach 5000.

When I did this change.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The test creature killed a wild animal of equal size. But EVERY part had been incredibly heavily damaged, but not permanently. Shortly after this, my creature had begun to regenerate, and I realized what it was i had made...Wolverine, minus the claws.
Title: Re: Erm...Wolverine?
Post by: Meph on September 27, 2015, 07:49:37 pm
minus the re-growing limbs and unbreakable bones too ;)
Title: Re: Erm...Wolverine?
Post by: klefenz on September 27, 2015, 07:50:49 pm
I think wolverine can feel pain, anyway, you can add the claws.
Title: Re: Erm...Wolverine?
Post by: taldarus on September 27, 2015, 08:06:11 pm
klefenz:
NO_PAIN is necessary, because wolverine, while feeling pain, does not succumb to it. (Otherwise a stab in the gut will leave him unconscious)
Yes, I can add claws, but then it raises the question, why would he want weapons?

Meph:
Limbs regenerate quite well. Bones 'break' but only fracture. As bones and cartilage are effectively adamantine, they are virtually un-sever-able. The tissue got functionally torn off his left arm, but quickly began to 'regrow' as the 'structure' was intact. Nerves, as set to grow, also regrew, meaning he was able to use his left arm in only a few minutes. (In the testing arena) Limbs seemed functional.

EDIT: Tested again, bones 'dent' not break....
Title: Re: Erm...Wolverine?
Post by: CulixCupric on September 27, 2015, 08:10:43 pm
you could also add this after defining all tissues...

Code: [Select]
[SELECT_TISSUE_LAYER:ALL]
[TL_HEALING_RATE:1]
... that's from hydras... they heal faster than anything...
Title: Re: Erm...Wolverine?
Post by: taldarus on September 27, 2015, 08:18:25 pm
When you suggested that, I thought, 'I really shouldn't, but..."

Subject currently has lost function in its:
Heart
Kidney
Spleen

A few seconds later:
Heart

LOL
Title: Re: Erm...Wolverine?
Post by: CulixCupric on September 27, 2015, 08:45:57 pm
Quote from: taldarus on September 27, 2015, 08:18:25 pm
When you suggested that, I thought, 'I really shouldn't, but..."

Subject currently has lost function in its:
Heart
Kidney
Spleen

A few seconds later:
Heart

LOL
amazing! now if only we had livestock we could cut in half, let one regrow and cook the other half.
Title: Re: Erm...Wolverine?
Post by: taldarus on September 27, 2015, 08:57:05 pm
I love DF!

First reaction: I could probably give it a good attempt if I...
Second reaction: What the @#@# am I thinking about?
Third reaction: Shear-able body parts is probably the ticket. Instead of hair or fur, try and get the game to let you shear off an 'arm'. It probably can't be functional as an arm. I had toyed with the idea for necromancers.

CREATURE:CORPSE_DEMON
DESC:A massive bloated demon whose body grows corpses from its wriggling flesh. The corpses can be sheared off and butchered.

didn't get around to testing it though
Title: Re: Erm...Wolverine?
Post by: klefenz on September 27, 2015, 09:30:18 pm
How about modding hydras to be tameable and have shearable limbs?
Title: Re: Erm...Wolverine?
Post by: CulixCupric on September 28, 2015, 02:53:10 am
Quote from: klefenz on September 27, 2015, 09:30:18 pm
How about modding hydras to be tameable and have shearable limbs?
i already made tameable mini hydras, they are extremely rare though, so i have never encountered one.
here, you can have them. EDIT: realized 5HEADNECKS is not a proper bodypart, changed it back to 7HEADNECKS... hence why i have never encountered one... they didn't exist due to being improperly defined.
Code: [Select]

[CREATURE:MYKRODRA]
[DESCRIPTION:A small seven-headed lizard.]
[NAME:mykrodra:mykrodras:mykrodra]
[CASTE_NAME:mykrodra:mykrodras:mykrodra]
[CREATURE_TILE:'h'][COLOR:4:0:1]
[PETVALUE:100]
[PET_EXOTIC]
[TRAINABLE]
[BIOME:ANY_LAND]
[FREQUENCY:25]
[BONECARN]
[PREFSTRING:fangs]
[PREFSTRING:shiny scales]
[BODY:BASIC_2PARTBODY:7HEADNECKS:BASIC_FRONTLEGS:BASIC_REARLEGS:TAIL:2EYES:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:THROAT:SPINE:BRAIN:SKULL:3TOES_FQ_REG:3TOES_RQ_REG:MOUTH:TONGUE:GENERIC_TEETH_WITH_FANGS:RIBCAGE]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_MATERIALS]
[REMOVE_MATERIAL:SKIN]
[REMOVE_MATERIAL:LEATHER]
[REMOVE_MATERIAL:HAIR]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SCALE:SCALE_TEMPLATE]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_TISSUES]
[REMOVE_TISSUE:SKIN]
[REMOVE_TISSUE:HAIR]
[USE_TISSUE_TEMPLATE:SCALE:SCALE_TEMPLATE]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS:SCALE:FAT:MUSCLE:BONE:CARTILAGE]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:CLAW:NAIL_TEMPLATE]
[USE_TISSUE_TEMPLATE:CLAW:CLAW_TEMPLATE]
[TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:TOE:CLAW:FRONT]
[SELECT_TISSUE_LAYER:HEART:BY_CATEGORY:HEART]
[TL_MAJOR_ARTERIES]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_HEAD_POSITIONS]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HUMANOID_RIBCAGE_POSITIONS]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SINEW:SINEW_TEMPLATE]
[TENDONS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:1]
[LIGAMENTS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:1]
[HAS_NERVES]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD:LIQUID]
[CREATURE_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
[GETS_WOUND_INFECTIONS]
[GETS_INFECTIONS_FROM_ROT]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:PUS:PUS_TEMPLATE]
[PUS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:PUS:LIQUID]
[PHYS_ATT_RANGE:RECUPERATION:1250:1500:1750:2000:2500:3000:5000]
[PHYS_ATT_RANGE:DISEASE_RESISTANCE:1250:1500:1750:2000:2500:3000:5000]
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:KINESTHETIC_SENSE:1250:1500:1750:2000:2500:3000:5000]
[BODY_SIZE:0:0:1000]
[BODY_SIZE:1:0:12500]
[BODY_SIZE:2:0:30000]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
[ATTACK:BITE:CHILD_BODYPART_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:BY_CATEGORY:TOOTH]
[ATTACK_SKILL:BITE]
[ATTACK_VERB:bite:bites]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_PENETRATION_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_FLAG_EDGE]
[ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER:3:3]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:MAIN]
[ATTACK_FLAG_CANLATCH]
[ATTACK_FLAG_INDEPENDENT_MULTIATTACK]
[ATTACK:CLAW:CHILD_TISSUE_LAYER_GROUP:BY_TYPE:STANCE:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:CLAW]
[ATTACK_SKILL:GRASP_STRIKE]
[ATTACK_VERB:claw:claws]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_PENETRATION_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_FLAG_EDGE]
[ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER:3:3]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:SECOND]
[CHILD:12]
[MAXAGE:80:400]
[GENERAL_CHILD_NAME:mykrodraling:mykrodralings]
[DIURNAL]
[MULTIPART_FULL_VISION]
[NATURAL_SKILL:BITE:2]
[NATURAL_SKILL:GRASP_STRIKE:2]
[NATURAL_SKILL:MELEE_COMBAT:2]
[NATURAL_SKILL:DODGING:2]
[NATURAL_SKILL:SITUATIONAL_AWARENESS:8]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_QUADRUPED_GAITS:900:730:561:351:1900:2900] 25 kph
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_SWIMMING_GAITS:3512:2634:1756:878:4900:6900] 10 kph
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CRAWLING_GAITS:6561:6115:5683:1755:7456:8567] 5 kph
[SWIMS_INNATE]
[CANNOT_JUMP]
[HOMEOTHERM:10040]
[CASTE:FEMALE]
[FEMALE]
[LAYS_EGGS]
[EGG_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:EGGSHELL:SOLID]
[EGG_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:EGG_WHITE:LIQUID]
[EGG_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:EGG_YOLK:LIQUID]
[EGG_SIZE:1100]
[CLUTCH_SIZE:1:2]
[CASTE:MALE]
[MALE]
[SELECT_CASTE:ALL]
[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:SCALE]
[TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:GOLD:1:RED:1]
[TLCM_NOUN:scales:PLURAL]
[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:EYE:EYE]
[TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:BLACK:1]
[TLCM_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]
[SELECT_TISSUE_LAYER:ALL]
[TL_HEALING_RATE:1]
Title: Re: Erm...Wolverine?
Post by: taldarus on September 29, 2015, 12:38:32 am
Just got around to thinking about this, has anyone bothered to create a ghost-shell for every body part? I mean, functionally, it doesn't exist within the game, but it is always present and has the [structural] and/or [nerve] tags affixed to it?

Don't have time to test it out atm, but I think that we could do something like this:
For an arm:
{Ghost skin} -does nothing, but tricks the game into thinking the limb hasn't been severed
[BONE] -fake structural
[CARTILAGE] -connects
[MUSCLE]
[FAT]
[SKIN]

With all tissue layers set to heal, the arm could be 'severed', and eventually regrow.
Title: Re: Erm...Wolverine?
Post by: StupidElves on October 24, 2015, 09:36:43 pm
PTW, I really want to see a civilization populated by these entertaining creatures. Perhaps make them as aggressive as possible for maximum Fun?
Title: Re: Erm...Wolverine?
Post by: IndigoFenix on October 25, 2015, 01:08:41 am
Quote from: taldarus on September 29, 2015, 12:38:32 am
Just got around to thinking about this, has anyone bothered to create a ghost-shell for every body part? I mean, functionally, it doesn't exist within the game, but it is always present and has the [structural] and/or [nerve] tags affixed to it?

Don't have time to test it out atm, but I think that we could do something like this:
For an arm:
{Ghost skin} -does nothing, but tricks the game into thinking the limb hasn't been severed
[BONE] -fake structural
[CARTILAGE] -connects
[MUSCLE]
[FAT]
[SKIN]

With all tissue layers set to heal, the arm could be 'severed', and eventually regrow.

An adamantine skeleton would have the same effect, appropriately enough.
Title: Re: Erm...Wolverine?
Post by: taldarus on November 01, 2015, 02:17:53 am
Yeah, but the problem with the skeleton is that he can still use it. I want something that can't be used as a weapon. (beating an enemy to death with your own arm bone is pretty imbalanced if it is made of adamantine)

...but awesome...
Title: Re: Erm...Wolverine?
Post by: IndigoFenix on November 01, 2015, 09:25:56 am

Quote from: taldarus on November 01, 2015, 02:17:53 am
Yeah, but the problem with the skeleton is that he can still use it. I want something that can't be used as a weapon. (beating an enemy to death with your own arm bone is pretty imbalanced if it is made of adamantine)

...but awesome...

Hitting things with adamantine does almost nothing because of its light weight.
Title: Re: Erm...Wolverine?
Post by: taldarus on November 06, 2015, 07:35:21 pm
Quote from: IndigoFenix on November 01, 2015, 09:25:56 am

Hitting things with adamantine does almost nothing because of its light weight.


True, but I want to say that he didn't just 'hit' things with his skeletal hand. With [NERVE] and [STRUCTURAL] tags in a 'safe' place, to ensure the arm can regrow and keep function. Maybe [NERVE] acts as a muscle token, because I am pretty sure he clawed/scratched with his fingers (yes, just bare adamantine bones). Hafta retest it, but it will definitely be a while.

I am certain he was incredibly lethal in a fight. Against an equally sized foe, the battle only lasted a few seconds.
Title: Re: Erm...Wolverine?
Post by: Lightningy on November 14, 2015, 04:13:57 pm
So, anyone know if the ghost skin will actually function?
Title: Re: Erm...Wolverine?
Post by: hyperman500 on November 20, 2015, 03:06:08 pm
My guess is that it would act like a forgotten beast made of fire or water, shatters or explodes or whatever upon contact with anything.
Title: Re: Erm...Wolverine?
Post by: Enemy post on November 20, 2015, 03:42:15 pm
You could give him an interaction to transform for a moment to get full regeneration I think.