Post by: Phoebus on March 13, 2014, 07:57:17 pm
After updating the game, run DF_savegame_updater.bat to update your savegames, run DF_phoebus_init_updater.bat to update your inits, then play the game.
Note: .NET Framework v4 (http://www.microsoft.com/net/download.aspx) is required to run the Tileset Assembler utility, so you should try installing that if you can't get the util to run.
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Screenshots:
Spoiler: Glorious Round Trees (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Minecart Tracks (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Tileset Assembler (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Hilltop with lake and plants; Natural vs Smooth vs Smooth & Grimdark (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Engraved round walls and floors (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Round walls and smooth floors (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Engraved old crenelated walls and floors (brightest and darkest) (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Classic Diagonal Walls (click to show/hide)
Symbol Chart (Outdated):
Spoiler: Rocks and stuff (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Plants and Herbs (click to show/hide)
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*Updated* 0.40.24v00
Updated to Dwarf Fortress 0.40.24.
Spoiler: Update History DF2014 (click to show/hide)
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Graphic Packs:
Pre-Installed Package for Windows @DFFD (http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2431) (w/ DF 0.40.24)
Graphic Set Package @DFFD (http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2430) (for DF 0.40.24): (Remember to run the init_updater.)
Pre-Installed Package for Linux @DFFD (http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9179) (w/ DF 0.40.16+) (by King Mir (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=57030).)
DF Starter Pack @DFFD (http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=7622) (by PeridexisErrant (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=94844).) (DF Starter Pack Homepage (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=126076.0))
MasterWork (DF2012) @DFFD (http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=5315) (by Meph (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=61165).) (MasterWork Homepage (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=98196.0))
Mirrors:
@ MediaFire (http://www.mediafire.com/?2p7axbyagp2ij)
@ MediaFire (Old 0.40 Files) (http://www.mediafire.com/?3a644qd35f9zp)
@ MediaFire (Old 0.34 Files) (http://www.mediafire.com/?6a465xis5it22)
@ MediaFire (Old 0.31 Files) (http://www.mediafire.com/?z9zsbevc27bwn)
@ MediaFire (Very Old Files) (http://www.mediafire.com/?7zk2l02v6pdj0)
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Installation:
1. Unzip the 'Pre-Installed Package' where you want the game to be installed, or unzip the Graphic Set Package over your current installation.
2. Run DF_Phoebus_Init_Updater.bat to update your inits.
3. (Optional) Run DF_Savegame_Updater.bat (or DF_savegame_updater.sh on Linux) to update your savegames.
4. (Optional) Run PhoebusTilesetAssembler.exe to customize your tileset.
5. Strike the Earth!
Post by: Phoebus on March 13, 2014, 07:58:34 pm
Post by: Phoebus on March 13, 2014, 07:59:31 pm
Spoiler: Retired DF2012 Packages (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Update History DF2012 and 0.31 (click to show/hide)
)Post by: Phoebus on March 13, 2014, 07:59:48 pm
Spoiler: Credits and Thanks (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: F.A.Q.s (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Donation (click to show/hide)
Post by: Taffer on March 13, 2014, 09:06:13 pm
Post by: SalmonGod on March 15, 2014, 09:15:24 pm
Post by: Intrinsic on March 18, 2014, 02:18:40 am
Post by: Raul on March 18, 2014, 08:40:26 am
Post by: palu on March 19, 2014, 03:22:49 pm
Post by: HammerHand on April 09, 2014, 08:48:13 am
Post by: PeridexisErrant on June 12, 2014, 07:22:05 pm
You may be interested in the new Text will be Text plugin (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=138754), which allows you to set up a separate tileset for text to the rest of the tiles. As of version 2.01 (2014-06-04), it also allows you to add an arbitrary number of additional tilesets, tiles from which can be set to override specific items or building tiles. This functionally implements eternal suggestion #4 for full graphics support.
I'm going to include this in the Starter Pack, and it would be great to have a 'pure text' version of your tileset that can be dropped in. Most of the letters are already clear, but there's a few things like the quality symbols and any changed letters, numbers, and punctuation which are hopefully easy to include in a pure text tileset, and would make things a lot easier to read in cases where truetype doesn't work or has been disabled.
Any further stuff like overrides would be awesome, but given the rate of updates (including recently a demo of allowing different tile width for the menu) you might not want to invest too much time just yet - but don't let anyone stop you if it look fun! It's also probably a good way to deal with the whole walls-as-leaves thing that's going to come up in the new version, though that's still not so bad as the cursor/stairs/bins/'x' mixture.
Please don't feel any pressure - I just thought it worth sharing with the people who have done the work to make pretty graphics happen already :D
Post by: Aydjile on June 14, 2014, 07:04:44 am
will you incorporate it into your tileset?
Post by: Raul on June 14, 2014, 05:15:27 pm
PTW the new thread.That sounds brilliant, full tileset support for DF! Never imagined I'd see the day, this community is absolutely amazing...
You may be interested in the new Text will be Text plugin (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=138754), which allows you to set up a separate tileset for text to the rest of the tiles. As of version 2.01 (2014-06-04), it also allows you to add an arbitrary number of additional tilesets, tiles from which can be set to override specific items or building tiles. This functionally implements eternal suggestion #4 for full graphics support.
I'm going to include this in the Starter Pack, and it would be great to have a 'pure text' version of your tileset that can be dropped in. Most of the letters are already clear, but there's a few things like the quality symbols and any changed letters, numbers, and punctuation which are hopefully easy to include in a pure text tileset, and would make things a lot easier to read in cases where truetype doesn't work or has been disabled.
Any further stuff like overrides would be awesome, but given the rate of updates (including recently a demo of allowing different tile width for the menu) you might not want to invest too much time just yet - but don't let anyone stop you if it look fun! It's also probably a good way to deal with the whole walls-as-leaves thing that's going to come up in the new version, though that's still not so bad as the cursor/stairs/bins/'x' mixture.
Please don't feel any pressure - I just thought it worth sharing with the people who have done the work to make pretty graphics happen already :D
Post by: nimbus25 on June 24, 2014, 12:06:58 am
(http://i60.tinypic.com/2m4q58w.png)
(http://i57.tinypic.com/wtvqty.png)
Post by: PeridexisErrant on June 24, 2014, 12:08:51 am
Post by: nimbus25 on June 24, 2014, 12:10:51 am
This is a truetype issue - using F12 to toggle it off and back on should reset the problem.Thanks for the help, especially with how fast that was. Turning it back on didn't fix it, so I'm just going to leave it off, I don't really mind.
Post by: Raul on June 24, 2014, 12:31:49 am
Isn't it F10? Anyway, it's just a temporary fix, unfortunately. It may fix the missing letters for a few dozen seconds or so, but it comes back eventually. You'd have to press the button every once in a while, but I personally don't mind doing that if it means I can actually differentiate between the gender symbols.This is a truetype issue - using F12 to toggle it off and back on should reset the problem.Thanks for the help, especially with how fast that was. Turning it back on didn't fix it, so I'm just going to leave it off, I don't really mind.
Post by: EvilBob22 on June 25, 2014, 03:56:01 pm
Post by: falcn on June 30, 2014, 10:03:52 am
Post by: CLA on June 30, 2014, 10:20:21 am
I loaded my save and this happensIIRC phoebus uses the ¿ for unused tiles on his tileset.
You don't have the correct raws for the tileset you want to use. Phoebus' uses different raws from the default. Each DF save stores its own raws. So assuming you installed phoebus correctly, you just have to copy the raws from the DF root folder and overwrite the raws of your save.
I suggest you backup your save before that, in case something goes wrong.
Also, make sure you have the correct data/init/d_init.txt settings.
I'm not sure what's wrong though. The minerals/stones seem to be correctly shown (which are different from default, too), so the raws only seem to be partially incorrect.
Really, it would be best to tell us what exactly you did.
What tileset did you use before?
How exactly did you install phoebus?
Where did you get the download from?
Are you using any mods?
Are you using any dfhack plugins that could affect this?
What versions of all these things are you using?
If all else fails, download phoebus' prepacked download, extract in a new folder, make sure it works.
then, copy over your save, and finally overwrite your save's raws with the ones from the root folder of the new phoebus install.
Make sure that works too, and then apply whatever dfhack stuff, mods, etc you want.
Post by: Rewoljwer on July 07, 2014, 01:48:47 pm
Post by: Rewoljwer on July 07, 2014, 01:49:44 pm
Post by: palu on July 07, 2014, 02:48:25 pm
Post by: Gnomeknows on July 07, 2014, 10:53:28 pm
Do please to dvarfa women pictures and male dvarfa mixed. I would like to have more pictures of weapons and armor-like in Masterworke. All this want I am not the only one, but still many people will support me.
What's that lassie? Jeff's fallen down the well?
Post by: Lockyy on July 08, 2014, 08:56:53 am
Anyone know if Pheobus will work alright in the new version and just fallback to default textures for things not covered? Or are tilesets not backwards compatible?
If you do read this Pheobus, thanks for all the hard work over the years.
Post by: ronron on July 08, 2014, 11:54:50 am
If it wasn't for this tileset I couldn't have started playing DF, and now all the other tileset look worse to me. I hope we get an update!
Post by: mnjiman on July 08, 2014, 12:13:07 pm
Post by: Aydjile on July 08, 2014, 01:45:22 pm
Post by: Lockyy on July 08, 2014, 02:02:02 pm
Also, it'd be great if those using it were able to point out problems, it'll probably help things along.
For me the only thing I've seen so far is that it seems like Goblin Settlements use the cloth icon instead of whatever they used to use, so that might've been moved around.
Post by: SammyLiimex on July 08, 2014, 02:37:40 pm
Post by: antropia on July 08, 2014, 02:42:04 pm
How do the new trees look with this tileset, if you use the .34 version of it?
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Lockyy on July 08, 2014, 02:49:34 pm
How do the new trees look with this tileset, if you use the .34 version of it?
Just came back to mention this.
No textures at all, just black squares.
As you can see in the last post in the image.
Don't include the raws from the pheobus download if you want it to work. Also do not use the init updater, do it yourself manually. Trees are working fine for me now. Not textured, but visible.
Result:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: mnjiman on July 08, 2014, 03:11:33 pm
I assume that as long as your fortress doesn't contain certain items that are new, you should be fine. Otherwise either a) start a fortress until you do not get any errors like this or b) wait until a new graphics pack comes out.
I for one will simply continue playing my current fortress without a graphics pack for now. :-)
Post by: SammyLiimex on July 08, 2014, 03:24:44 pm
How do the new trees look with this tileset, if you use the .34 version of it?
Just came back to mention this.
No textures at all, just black squares.
As you can see in the last post in the image.
Don't include the raws from the pheobus download if you want it to work. Also do not use the init updater, do it yourself manually. Trees are working fine for me now. Not textured, but visible.
Result:Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Thanks, Ill do this when I start it up soon this week if not today
Post by: MaximumZero on July 08, 2014, 03:29:52 pm
Post by: Lockyy on July 08, 2014, 03:36:45 pm
You can download it here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/j7zit70gkikl9ik/DF2014_with_Pheobus.zip
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
The tileset assembler is included and worked perfectly for me.
Note: Sand looks a little weird (the solid yellow walls in the first image) and roots and certain branches are displayed using gems. This isn't great but is just how the current tileset works. It still looks much nicer than empty, black space.
Post by: MaximumZero on July 08, 2014, 03:41:48 pm
Post by: SammyLiimex on July 08, 2014, 03:44:31 pm
I've packaged up my version of Dwarf Fortress with Pheobus installed and working nicely with trees.
You can download it here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/j7zit70gkikl9ik/DF2014_with_Pheobus.zipSpoiler (click to show/hide)
The tileset assembler is included and worked perfectly for me.
Note: Sand looks a little weird (the solid yellow walls in the first image) and roots and certain branches are displayed using gems. This isn't great but is just how the current tileset works. It still looks much nicer than empty, black space.
wow, I forgot how nice people are on here, compared to the internet
Post by: cken1774 on July 08, 2014, 03:58:52 pm
I've packaged up my version of Dwarf Fortress with Pheobus installed and working nicely with trees.
You can download it here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/j7zit70gkikl9ik/DF2014_with_Pheobus.zipSpoiler (click to show/hide)
The tileset assembler is included and worked perfectly for me.
Note: Sand looks a little weird (the solid yellow walls in the first image) and roots and certain branches are displayed using gems. This isn't great but is just how the current tileset works. It still looks much nicer than empty, black space.
You sir are a Gentleman and a Scholar
Post by: nenjin on July 08, 2014, 04:06:08 pm
Post by: Lockyy on July 08, 2014, 04:14:10 pm
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=140111.0
Post by: Aydjile on July 08, 2014, 06:10:28 pm
my version of Dwarf Fortress with Pheobus
thank you, good sir.
Post by: Varee on July 09, 2014, 01:32:12 am
Post by: Phoebus on July 09, 2014, 08:34:46 am
Post by: Raul on July 09, 2014, 08:40:32 am
I apologize for the delay. I've just noticed the new release and I'm starting to update the graphic set right now. It could take a few days to make everything work right.Fantastic news! This is my second favorite tileset, Spacefox is my favorite.
Post by: Kromgar on July 09, 2014, 08:44:15 am
I apologize for the delay. I've just noticed the new release and I'm starting to update the graphic set right now. It could take a few days to make everything work right.
WOHOOOO
Post by: Mokkun on July 09, 2014, 09:28:59 am
I apologize for the delay. I've just noticed the new release and I'm starting to update the graphic set right now. It could take a few days to make everything work right.Nice. Cant wait.
Still take your time.. ;)
This is my favorite graphic set..
Post by: Phoebus on July 09, 2014, 10:06:32 am
Spoiler: How I feel right now (click to show/hide)
Post by: Mokkun on July 09, 2014, 10:41:58 am
2014Spoiler (click to show/hide)
(yes, joke flying way over my head)....
Post by: Raul on July 09, 2014, 10:47:24 am
I think he was referring to the fact that he hadn't said a thing around here in like 4 months :P2014Spoiler (click to show/hide)
(yes, joke flying way over my head)....
Post by: Phoebus on July 09, 2014, 12:18:05 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
There seems to be a problem with the central trunk and the large branch tips using the tile in the config. I can't do miracles there.
The new tree system does reduce the number of tiles needed for trees. Some are still used on the overworld map, but others are freed and could be used for higher quality branches and leaves.
Post by: CLA on July 09, 2014, 12:23:54 pm
There seems to be a problem with the central trunk and the large branch tips using the tile in the config. I can't do miracles there.
Details? Does the game just ignore what you assign in d_init.txt?
Post by: Phoebus on July 09, 2014, 12:32:14 pm
Central trunk and large branch terminations are using the same assignment line. So if I change one, I change the other. That seems like a strange limitation given how much customization there is for the other details of the tree structure.There seems to be a problem with the central trunk and the large branch tips using the tile in the config. I can't do miracles there.
Details? Does the game just ignore what you assign in d_init.txt?
Post by: CLA on July 09, 2014, 01:18:35 pm
Ah yeah, I see what you mean. Have you found out what TREE_CAP_PILLAR does? I haven't found a change when assigning tile #001 to it for debugging.Central trunk and large branch terminations are using the same assignment line. So if I change one, I change the other. That seems like a strange limitation given how much customization there is for the other details of the tree structure.There seems to be a problem with the central trunk and the large branch tips using the tile in the config. I can't do miracles there.
Details? Does the game just ignore what you assign in d_init.txt?
Edit: looking at it again, it does make sense to me now. If you consider it to mean "straight vertical branch", it's really the same as a trunk.
Post by: Phoebus on July 09, 2014, 01:33:56 pm
An ancient evil has been awakened.
Most of the graphic set has been updated to the latest version.
No tileset changes.
Plants and trees raws are still vanillas. I will not delay the release further, or risk breaking the raws by hastily modifying the new plant and tree system.
Expect some plants to look a bit funky until they get updated.
I've made the trees as pretty as I could without changing the raws or the tileset.
Post by: Phoebus on July 09, 2014, 01:36:53 pm
Post by: Turn on July 09, 2014, 02:14:31 pm
Post by: sal880612m on July 09, 2014, 02:19:30 pm
Seriously thanks it's my favourite graphics set.
Post by: NullForceOmega on July 09, 2014, 02:21:07 pm
Post by: palu on July 09, 2014, 03:06:00 pm
Post by: thburns on July 09, 2014, 04:12:16 pm
Some help would be appreciated, as I am now feeling quite dwarfy again.
Post by: CLA on July 09, 2014, 04:16:35 pm
I'm probably doing something wrong. Haven't played DF in over a year (waiting.... for that patch). And so I went and installed the LNP. Yes heretic, so burn me. I tried to install this pack to it but I keep coming up with the error: missing data/art/mouse.png. Which I didn't receive when trying ironhands pack. (but lets face it that ones not quite as nice!)
Some help would be appreciated, as I am now feeling quite dwarfy again.
It's an issue with LNP. Try asking in the relevant thread. I don't know how LNP works but it might completely delete the data/art folder when switching tilesets, which would delete mouse.png too.
Post by: thburns on July 09, 2014, 04:29:49 pm
Post by: chaosgear on July 09, 2014, 07:55:16 pm
wat
Post by: Greenbane on July 09, 2014, 08:35:10 pm
> DF_Phoebus_40_01v00.zip is malicious, and Chrome has blocked it.
wat
Chrome also blocked another pre-installed tileset pack (CLA) for me. The Google elves must have something against Dwarf Fortress. You can most likely ignore the warning.
Post by: Hibgolz98G on July 09, 2014, 08:53:38 pm
Post by: Fairawen on July 09, 2014, 11:07:23 pm
Undeniably my favorite graphic set. Wouldn't use another - would miss it too much. :D
Post by: Phoebus on July 10, 2014, 11:09:40 am
Spoiler: I'm working on rounder Trees (click to show/hide)
Post by: oldmansutton on July 10, 2014, 04:41:28 pm
Post by: Moonshadow101 on July 10, 2014, 05:51:11 pm
Neeevermind. Got it going.
To the guy below this though, I haven't the faintest clue what a "Starter Pack" is.
Post by: Aydjile on July 10, 2014, 06:19:14 pm
i really do hope so - in my opinion; your capacity; can make df shine in terms of graphics and visual esthetics.
Post by: PeridexisErrant on July 10, 2014, 07:00:47 pm
Just dropped the 40.01 set into 40.02 and it didn't take at all. Like, the game launched in pure ASCII. I didn't expect it to work perfectly, but it seems like a pretty weird thing to happen, especially since the 34.11 set could be dropped into 40.01 with only a few game-breaking problems.Well, it's working through the Starter Pack.
The upgrade package is missing init.txt, d_init.txt, and colors.txt, as well as mouse.bmp&png. It works if you drop it over an install and edit your inits, but not in the starter pack.
Post by: thetorsoboy on July 10, 2014, 07:11:32 pm
When I start the game, it skips the intro, and I don't get any music, and I really like the music. Anyone know how to fix this?
Post by: Chimerat on July 10, 2014, 07:19:06 pm
Hey guys, I downloaded Phoebus, and got it all working, except for one thing.I believe you want to put "YES" beside "Sound" in the Init file. I get rid of the sound by putting "NO" there.
When I start the game, it skips the intro, and I don't get any music, and I really like the music. Anyone know how to fix this?
Post by: Iamblichos on July 10, 2014, 07:27:18 pm
Doesn't matter, but it is a difference.
Post by: Couchmonster on July 11, 2014, 01:25:25 am
I know that getting the tileset fully functional has got to be priority one, but just curious if there is an ETA on the linux pre-installed version, or if anybody would be kind enough to post one that works. ^_^
I can give you one made out of the windows version :)
Aint no magic in those scripts.
Post by: crossmr on July 11, 2014, 06:32:02 am
Post by: Couchmonster on July 11, 2014, 08:18:34 am
Step1: Download Phoebus to your users Downloads Folder
Step2: Copy this bash script to df-inst.sh and make it +x
Step3: Use this bash script ./df-inst.sh 40_02 40_01v00 (e.g. df version 40_02 and phoebus 40_01v00)
Step3: Profit! You can find DF now ~/Games/dwarf-fortress/df_linux/df
Feel free to change it to your liking!
Code: [Select]
#!/bin/bash
set -e
MY_DF="$1" #In der Form xx_xx e.g. 40_02
MY_PHOEBUS="$2" #In der Form xx_xxvxx e.g. 40_02v00
[ -f "$HOME/Downloads/df_${MY_DF}_linux.tar.bz2" ] || wget -O "$HOME/Downloads/df_${MY_DF}_linux.tar.bz2" "http://bay12games.com/dwarves/df_${MY_DF}_linux.tar.bz2" || echo "DF_${MY_DF} downloaded!"
[ -d "$HOME/Games/dwarf-fortress" ] || mkdir "$HOME/Games/dwarf-fortress" || echo "Folder "$HOME/Games/dwarf-fortress" created!"
tar xfj "$HOME/Downloads/df_${MY_DF}_linux.tar.bz2" -C "$HOME/Games/dwarf-fortress"
#rm "df_${MY_VERSION}_linux.tar.bz2"
unzip -o "$HOME/Downloads/Phoebus_${MY_PHOEBUS}.zip" -d "$HOME/Games/dwarf-fortress/df_linux"
cp "$HOME/Games/dwarf-fortress/df_linux/data/init/phoebus/colors.txt" "$HOME/Games/dwarf-fortress/df_linux/data/init/"
cp "$HOME/Games/dwarf-fortress/df_linux/data/init/phoebus/d_init.txt" "$HOME/Games/dwarf-fortress/df_linux/data/init/"
cp "$HOME/Games/dwarf-fortress/df_linux/data/init/phoebus/init.txt" "$HOME/Games/dwarf-fortress/df_linux/data/init/"
Post by: Jiri Petru on July 11, 2014, 08:43:47 am
By the way, in your hibernation you might have not noticed the Text will be Text (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=138754.0) plugin, which allows you to set basically a unique tile for everything in the game. I admit I'm fuzzy in the details, and the thread has 30 pages, I'm just posting it here because it's something you might want to look into.
See e.g. Meph's item tileset here (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=139579.0). That said, I don't really like Meph's huge and colourful art direction and would prefer something more modest and iconic, which is why my hopes are in you. No pressure. ;)
Post by: Phoebus on July 11, 2014, 09:13:57 am
Plants and trees updated.
New tree trunk tile.
Leaves are now edible. (Quarry bush only. (After being processed.))
Post by: Phoebus on July 11, 2014, 09:26:21 am
Spoiler: Glorious Round Trees (click to show/hide)
Love your work, Phoebus.I was aware of that development. I'm waiting to see how stable and flexible the system is. Take in consideration that I create few tiles, I mostly combine tiles created by other artists and try to find the best compromises for problems caused by limited and hardcoded tiles. TwbT fixes those problems directly. Graphic sets are completely different beasts with and without TwbT.
By the way, in your hibernation you might have not noticed the Text will be Text (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=138754.0) plugin, which allows you to set basically a unique tile for everything in the game. I admit I'm fuzzy in the details, and the thread has 30 pages, I'm just posting it here because it's something you might want to look into.
See e.g. Meph's item tileset here (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=139579.0). That said, I don't really like Meph's huge and colourful art direction and would prefer something more modest and iconic, which is why my hopes are in you. No pressure. ;)
Post by: helmacon on July 11, 2014, 11:45:51 am
(My God, has it really been a year?)
Post by: Kingpin232323 on July 11, 2014, 12:48:50 pm
Is it the same with these tilesets?
Or is that still work in progress?
Post by: Phoebus on July 11, 2014, 02:40:06 pm
I noticed with ASCII that in the spring the trees get different colors and things like that.Same thing in the tilesets. The tilesets are black and white, it's the game that chooses how to color each tile.
Is it the same with these tilesets?
Or is that still work in progress?
Post by: MorphiusFaydal on July 11, 2014, 02:49:50 pm
Second, raw/graphics/version.txt still shows 0.34.11v01. Shouldn't that be updated? :)
Post by: Phoebus on July 11, 2014, 04:23:25 pm
First up, I just want to say thank you so much for this graphics pack! It is gorgeous!That version.txt is for the version of the graphics folder only, which has not changed since 0.34.11v01 when I added a background texture to Doren's creatures.
Second, raw/graphics/version.txt still shows 0.34.11v01. Shouldn't that be updated? :)
It's a relic of a time when I packaged unit graphics separately. It was more trouble than it was worth; Other utilities were offering the same function, but better.
Post by: Dyrxaend on July 11, 2014, 07:04:15 pm
Post by: Dyrxaend on July 11, 2014, 07:15:08 pm
Post by: crossmr on July 11, 2014, 07:31:18 pm
Because I've been away so long, how do I apply the phoebus graphics to the 0.40.02 version or is an official release just around the corner?
So, I tried to do this myself. I updated the 4 instances of the name of the graphic set in the init file. The walls look fine, but the dwarves look weird and strange. Did I miss something?
Post by: SammyLiimex on July 11, 2014, 09:21:42 pm
The tile still needs a lot of work.Spoiler: I'm working on rounder Trees (click to show/hide)
That looks a lot better!
Post by: MorphiusFaydal on July 11, 2014, 11:17:42 pm
There's a version in the OP with the pack pre-installed on .40.02. If you want to install it manually, directions in OP are accurate. Unzip the graphics pack on top of a fresh folder of .40.02 and run df_phoebus_init_updater.batBecause I've been away so long, how do I apply the phoebus graphics to the 0.40.02 version or is an official release just around the corner?
So, I tried to do this myself. I updated the 4 instances of the name of the graphic set in the init file. The walls look fine, but the dwarves look weird and strange. Did I miss something?
That's all you need to do.
Post by: crossmr on July 12, 2014, 05:07:04 am
There's a version in the OP with the pack pre-installed on .40.02. If you want to install it manually, directions in OP are accurate. Unzip the graphics pack on top of a fresh folder of .40.02 and run df_phoebus_init_updater.batBecause I've been away so long, how do I apply the phoebus graphics to the 0.40.02 version or is an official release just around the corner?
So, I tried to do this myself. I updated the 4 instances of the name of the graphic set in the init file. The walls look fine, but the dwarves look weird and strange. Did I miss something?
That's all you need to do.
ah I read the readme which mentioned changing the init file with those 4 entries, maybe I missed something. I downloaded the prepackaged version now, but attempted this before it was available.
Post by: Papanixtas on July 12, 2014, 02:41:56 pm
Post by: Vlad on July 12, 2014, 09:30:35 pm
um, im having a very major problem. Said very major problem is that I cant open up the website where you get the pre-installed package from.
I am having the same problem, Google Chrome just keeps telling me that it can't find the website.
Post by: Phoebus on July 13, 2014, 08:46:39 am
Is there a lot of people who can't use DFFD?um, im having a very major problem. Said very major problem is that I cant open up the website where you get the pre-installed package from.
I am having the same problem, Google Chrome just keeps telling me that it can't find the website.
I've uploaded both version to the Mediafire (http://www.mediafire.com/?2p7axbyagp2ij) mirror.
Post by: forgetaboutit on July 13, 2014, 09:06:24 am
I like your tileset the best.
Post by: Phoebus on July 13, 2014, 04:53:40 pm
Edit: No raw changes... yay!
Post by: mnjiman on July 13, 2014, 05:15:07 pm
Post by: Phoebus on July 13, 2014, 05:31:31 pm
Post by: PeridexisErrant on July 13, 2014, 06:20:10 pm
*Updated* 0.40.03v00/typo
Updated to work with DF v0.30.03.
Post by: Phoebus on July 13, 2014, 06:52:56 pm
Thanks. I've removed the typo.*Updated* 0.40.03v00/typo
Updated to work with DF v0.30.03.
Post by: dwarf_reform on July 13, 2014, 10:58:46 pm
Post by: anthony62490 on July 14, 2014, 01:07:24 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/jmm6FQw.png)
Any idea what's going on here?
EDIT: Changed [GRAPHICS_WINDOWEDX:0] and [GRAPHICS_WINDOWEDY:0] to more suitable numbers. Now the window is bigger, but it is still black and unresponsive.
Post by: Phoebus on July 14, 2014, 08:42:12 pm
So I ran the .bats for 0.40.01 and now my game window looks like this and does not respond to input.You're not giving enough information. 0.40.01 should work just fine. How did you install everything?Any idea what's going on here?Spoiler (click to show/hide)
EDIT: Changed [GRAPHICS_WINDOWEDX:0] and [GRAPHICS_WINDOWEDY:0] to more suitable numbers. Now the window is bigger, but it is still black and unresponsive.
Post by: King Mir on July 14, 2014, 11:43:21 pm
Post by: Phoebus on July 15, 2014, 09:36:40 am
I'd be nice if branches and twigs had a slightly different tile.Yes it would, but I'm terrible at making organic tiles. I'll have to steal some leaf tiles from other tilesets. *scurries away*
Post by: Phoebus on July 15, 2014, 09:57:48 am
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: salithus on July 15, 2014, 10:39:54 am
looks like you got a whole lot of malachite in those trees :ohdear:I 'created' a new twig tile. I'm not sure it looks quite right.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Phoebus on July 15, 2014, 11:57:30 am
Pine trees are now copper trees! You can't stop progress!looks like you got a whole lot of malachite in those trees :ohdear:I 'created' a new twig tile. I'm not sure it looks quite right.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
We need a custom reaction to extract copper from pine needles!
Post by: salithus on July 15, 2014, 12:04:40 pm
Post by: King Mir on July 15, 2014, 01:09:43 pm
Post by: Phoebus on July 15, 2014, 01:59:35 pm
The two other updates I'd suggest is 1) Find a better tile for the tops of mushroom caps and 2) Make spades look like leaves not trees.I've not really played DF2014 yet, so I don't even know what underground mushroom trees look like... but I think I understand what you mean. Above ground trees have similar problems.
Do you mean the tool 'spade' or the tile 'spade'?
Post by: sal880612m on July 15, 2014, 02:03:53 pm
Post by: King Mir on July 15, 2014, 05:35:38 pm
The two other updates I'd suggest is 1) Find a better tile for the tops of mushroom caps and 2) Make spades look like leaves not trees.I've not really played DF2014 yet, so I don't even know what underground mushroom trees look like... but I think I understand what you mean. Above ground trees have similar problems.
Do you mean the tool 'spade' or the tile 'spade'?
Spoiler: Underground Trees (click to show/hide)
By spade I meant the spade tile. It must be used for something in the spring, because I can't find it in my summer fort now. Maybe it was a shrub with flowers on it. So that needs to be changed to not like a tree or the raws need to be purged of references to the tile.
EDIT: The wiki suggests it was actually the clubs tile meant to show flower blossoms.
Also, now that trees are big, the sapping tiles can be made to look bigger possibly.
Post by: nenjin on July 15, 2014, 05:38:03 pm
With the new trees and plant varieties all the old tree tiles are either now shrubs or also being used for shrubs/plants.
Not quite. I've seen a couple tree tiles that are still functioning as some stage of tree growth. I know this because they block movement.
Post by: King Mir on July 15, 2014, 05:42:53 pm
I think we're probably both thinking of flowers.With the new trees and plant varieties all the old tree tiles are either now shrubs or also being used for shrubs/plants.
Not quite. I've seen a couple tree tiles that are still functioning as some stage of tree growth. I know this because they block movement.
Post by: sal880612m on July 15, 2014, 06:07:11 pm
Post by: King Mir on July 15, 2014, 07:04:36 pm
In that case you might also consider stealing someone's minecraft textures.I'd be nice if branches and twigs had a slightly different tile.Yes it would, but I'm terrible at making organic tiles. I'll have to steal some leaf tiles from other tilesets. *scurries away*
Post by: Phoebus on July 15, 2014, 08:43:29 pm
It's not hard-coded, but I've not touched them yet.
The tree tiles are still being used on the map.
Anyway, I'm out of tile right now, so unless I move to TwbT, I won't be able to do much.
It's a one way jump, if I move to TwbT, then the tileset will be TwbT only. Or I'll have to support two independent tilesets.
Look what you've done!In that case you might also consider stealing someone's minecraft textures.I'd be nice if branches and twigs had a slightly different tile.Yes it would, but I'm terrible at making organic tiles. I'll have to steal some leaf tiles from other tilesets. *scurries away*
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Phoebus on July 15, 2014, 08:54:13 pm
There's 4 deciduous trees (including willow and palm), 2 Coniferous, 2 Mushroom Trees, A cactus, and the dead tree.
That could be reduced.
Post by: palu on July 15, 2014, 09:20:50 pm
Club and Spade are used by many plants for flowers and stuff like that.Someone needs to make a minecraft tileset.
It's not hard-coded, but I've not touched them yet.
The tree tiles are still being used on the map.
Anyway, I'm out of tile right now, so unless I move to TwbT, I won't be able to do much.
It's a one way jump, if I move to TwbT, then the tileset will be TwbT only. Or I'll have to support two independent tilesets.Look what you've done!In that case you might also consider stealing someone's minecraft textures.I'd be nice if branches and twigs had a slightly different tile.Yes it would, but I'm terrible at making organic tiles. I'll have to steal some leaf tiles from other tilesets. *scurries away*Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: King Mir on July 16, 2014, 02:16:15 am
Map tree tiles are not hardcoded. The tile number for each tree is now being used to represent them on the map.
There's 4 deciduous trees (including willow and palm), 2 Coniferous, 2 Mushroom Trees, A cactus, and the dead tree.
That could be reduced.
Club and Spade are used by many plants for flowers and stuff like that.What about tile 245, the bottom of the integral sign? Is that used anywhere?
It's not hard-coded, but I've not touched them yet.
The tree tiles are still being used on the map.
Anyway, I'm out of tile right now, so unless I move to TwbT, I won't be able to do much.
It's a one way jump, if I move to TwbT, then the tileset will be TwbT only. Or I'll have to support two independent tilesets.
You might also consider using the tree tiles for sapping tiles now. That gets you a couple of tiles.
Tiles 18 and 42 might be usable as flowers as is.
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That looks good. It tiles better than the branch tile even.Look what you've done!In that case you might also consider stealing someone's minecraft textures.I'd be nice if branches and twigs had a slightly different tile.Yes it would, but I'm terrible at making organic tiles. I'll have to steal some leaf tiles from other tilesets. *scurries away*Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Phoebus on July 16, 2014, 11:29:55 am
What about tile 245, the bottom of the integral sign? Is that used anywhere?244 is the Willow tile. 245 was my one free tile that I was using for the new leaf tile.
You might also consider using the tree tiles for sapping tiles now. That gets you a couple of tiles.
Tiles 18 and 42 might be usable as flowers as is.
This new doubled texture does look nice. It's a classic leaf texture that everyone knows. I'm not sure of the brightness and contrast, but I can fix that anytime I want.Look what you've done!That looks good. It tiles better than the branch tile even.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Bright vs Dim (click to show/hide)
Edit.: I'm sticking with dimmer leaves for now, they work better overall with the tileset and the readability of the map.
Post by: Phoebus on July 16, 2014, 11:59:55 am
Spoiler: Trunk (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Center (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Pillar (click to show/hide)
Post by: Meph on July 16, 2014, 12:01:30 pm
Post by: Raul on July 16, 2014, 12:01:54 pm
Trunk :)+1
Post by: salithus on July 16, 2014, 12:14:19 pm
Post by: sal880612m on July 16, 2014, 01:03:04 pm
+1Trunk :)+1
Post by: Phoebus on July 16, 2014, 01:34:01 pm
[TREE_CAP_PILLAR:10]
[TREE_CAP_PILLAR_DEAD:10]
Post by: Phoebus on July 16, 2014, 01:50:43 pm
Spoiler: Alternate Map Forest Style (click to show/hide)
The grey forests are Feather Trees.
Post by: palu on July 16, 2014, 02:13:18 pm
+1+1Trunk :)+1
Post by: sal880612m on July 16, 2014, 02:58:03 pm
I think it looks pretty good. More appropriate that individual trees. Although we won't be able to tell at a glance between coniferous, deciduous, swamp(willow), and tropical forests.
The grey forests are Feather Trees.
That will taking some getting used to. It does seem more appropriate though.
Edit:removed image from qoute.
Post by: MaximumZero on July 16, 2014, 03:04:26 pm
Also trunk.Trunk :)-snip-
Post by: NullForceOmega on July 16, 2014, 04:10:16 pm
Post by: Phoebus on July 16, 2014, 04:26:11 pm
There's also a bug with 'Conifer Forest' because most do not contain any conifers.
Forest Biomes: (the primary tile can be overridden by individual [TREE_TILE:x], the secondary tile (in swamp) cannot)
Swamp Biome = Tile 244, Willow (and 34, Shrub)
Conifer Forest = Tile 24, Pine
Broadleaf Forest = Tile 6, Broadleaf Tree (Almost always covered by individual tree tiles)
Tropical Forest = Tile 226, Palm/Weight
Non-Forest Biomes: (individual tree tiles do not override the biome tiles)
Hill = Tile 239, Hill/Slab (and 110, 'n'/Hill)
Savanna = Tile 252, Long Grass (and 34, Shrub)
Shrubland = Tile 231, Sappling (and 34, Shrub)
Grassland = Tile 46, '.'/Rough Floor/Grass (and 252, Long Grass)
Badlands = Tile 251, Weapon Rack (and 252, Long Grass)
Desert = Tile 247, Water/Sand (and 126, Water/Sand)
Marsh = Tile 34, Shrub (and 252, Long Grass)
Post by: Phoebus on July 16, 2014, 04:33:35 pm
Spoiler: Map (click to show/hide)
At the top of the map is a marsh with grass/bush tiles.
Most of the map is swamps, but half of the swamps have the default 'willow' swamp tile, in the other half the default 'willow' tile is completely replaced by individual tree tiles.
I don't understand the process.
I'll be odd man out, I like the center tile.I also prefer the center tile. I've been thinking of creating a square tile with rounded corners to replace or supplement the current pillar tile. It would be more appropriate for
Edit.: the mushroom core tile than either the center or trunk tiles. IMO
Post by: Raul on July 16, 2014, 04:40:38 pm
It would be more appropriate forfor...?
Post by: Phoebus on July 16, 2014, 09:20:54 pm
+7 free tiles.
While I'm at it, I'll upgrade the sapling tile. And I'll create a flower tile with a leaf background for trees.
So that leaves 7 "¿".
Post by: Meph on July 16, 2014, 09:35:32 pm
Post by: Phoebus on July 16, 2014, 09:50:41 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Phoebus, do you have any intention in using the Text-will-be-text plugin, to get more tiles?Depends of the cost/benefit. Requiring every Phoebus tileset users to use the plugin is very restrictive.
If I maintain a version of the tileset that does not require the plugin, then plugin users can also use that version, or a slight modification to it.
If the plugin reaches the point that it's clearly superior (stable, no gamemode limitations, etc.) to vanilla for the vast majority of Phoebus tileset users, I'll migrate to TwbT.
Until then, I think it's wiser to stick to vanilla.
Post by: King Mir on July 16, 2014, 10:08:40 pm
The other concern I have is that you're loosing the distinction between the four forest biomes. So maybe have 4 different canopies, one for each kind of forest.
Another thought: how would the shrubs, saplings and pine trees with dark leaves in the backgrounds?
Post by: Phoebus on July 16, 2014, 11:27:19 pm
I think you need more contrast between the two leaf/canopy tiles.Saplings represent shrublands, not forests, and are used ingame. Shrubs represent many non-forest biomes, and are also used ingame.
The other concern I have is that you're loosing the distinction between the four forest biomes. So maybe have 4 different canopies, one for each kind of forest.
Another thought: how would the shrubs, saplings and pine trees with dark leaves in the backgrounds?
I could add a leaf background to the pine tree tile.
Swamp is easy to identify without a specific tile, it's a mix of forest and shrubs. Only the willow and mangrove are pure swamp trees, yet many other trees can spawn in swamps. So I don't think it's worth using a tile for a single tree and an unreliable biome identifier only used in map mode.
Conifer forest are bugged, they are everywhere yet are full of non-conifer trees. But I can't reuse the conifer tile because it's also an up arrow tile, so I was already kept using it for conifers anyway.
Tropical trees could have their own tile. I think that's a good idea.
I'm going to improve the contrast between the leaf tiles.
Thank you for your input.
Post by: PeridexisErrant on July 16, 2014, 11:41:21 pm
I need to know what you think about this map style. Is it better? Worse? Acceptable?I think that's an improvement to the world map and I really like the style.
Please do not quote the image.Phoebus, do you have any intention in using the Text-will-be-text plugin, to get more tiles?Depends of the cost/benefit. Requiring every Phoebus tileset users to use the plugin is very restrictive.
If I maintain a version of the tileset that does not require the plugin, then plugin users can also use that version, or a slight modification to it.
If the plugin reaches the point that it's clearly superior (stable, no gamemode limitations, etc.) to vanilla for the vast majority of Phoebus tileset users, I'll migrate to TwbT.
Until then, I think it's wiser to stick to vanilla.
Regarding TwbT - you don't have to require it at all. I've set up Phoebus graphics with TwbT as the default in the 34.11 Starter Pack (http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=8687); the difference is adding a pure text tileset, item tiles, and the overrides config (which should be standard for vanilla). You can get more out of it by removing text from the map tileset to get more usable tiles - and thus requiring TwbT to be playable - but that can wait since it would mean maintaining two distinct sets.
Post by: Phoebus on July 17, 2014, 12:05:57 am
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
That makes sense. I could just make a few tiles to take advantage of it without making the tileset dependent on those tiles. For those who wish to use them.I need to know what you think about this map style. Is it better? Worse? Acceptable?I think that's an improvement to the world map and I really like the style.
Regarding TwbT - you don't have to require it at all. I've set up Phoebus graphics with TwbT as the default in the 34.11 Starter Pack (http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=8687); the difference is adding a pure text tileset, item tiles, and the overrides config (which should be standard for vanilla). You can get more out of it by removing text from the map tileset to get more usable tiles - and thus requiring TwbT to be playable - but that can wait since it would mean maintaining two distinct sets.
Post by: Meph on July 17, 2014, 12:15:05 am
Options are for example a font/text only tileset, or overrides for items or specific buildings/constructions. For example the hardcoded bins, which look like an X, or the hardcoded coffins that look like an 0, can be given unique tiles. The tiles on the Phoebus tileset would still look like X and 0, but in the additional tileset you would have special graphics for them.
If people play without Twbt, this second tileset will simply do nothing. It can also be installed, enabled and disabled on the fly, without genning a new world.
Post by: PeridexisErrant on July 17, 2014, 12:17:27 am
Post by: King Mir on July 17, 2014, 01:13:55 am
The suggestion with the pine was not to change it to a canopy, but to put a canopy behind it. Like so:
(http://s3.postimg.org/qcig7vp33/df_pine.png)
Speaking of which, I wonder if it'd be better to make all the direction arrows be rotations of this tile. It'd make it more consistent. This is nothing to do with DF14 though.
Post by: Aydjile on July 17, 2014, 08:44:47 am
Is it better? Worse? Acceptable?
way better! +1
Post by: Phoebus on July 17, 2014, 04:58:50 pm
vs
Palm+Forest A vs Palm+Forest B
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I like the first map more. Looking forward to the tiles!I can't contextually figure out which first map you are referring to.
Looks good.I understood the first time, but can't I be lazy? Why can't I just be lazy?
The suggestion with the pine was not to change it to a canopy, but to put a canopy behind it.
Speaking of which, I wonder if it'd be better to make all the direction arrows be rotations of this tile. It'd make it more consistent. This is nothing to do with DF14 though.Nope. I would turn the pine into an arrow before I would turn the other arrows into pines.
Post by: Chimerat on July 17, 2014, 05:17:55 pm
Jungle Tile vs PalmI like the second image best. You can make out the palms best there, in my opinion.
vs
Palm+Forest A vs Palm+Forest B
Post by: sal880612m on July 17, 2014, 05:22:10 pm
Post by: Raul on July 17, 2014, 05:23:34 pm
I like the second least. I can't really tell the difference between the last two.
Post by: Phoebus on July 17, 2014, 05:57:21 pm
Spoiler: I'm working on a 'new' Sapling tile! (click to show/hide)
I like the second least. I can't really tell the difference between the last two."A" has the palm leaves shifted down two pixels. "B" has the palm leaves at the same location as the lone palm tree.
I think "B" has a better contrast. I'll also try a version with a darker background forest.
Post by: PeridexisErrant on July 17, 2014, 05:59:44 pm
Jungle Tile vs PalmUm, looking back I'm not sure either :o Of the four quoted: 'P' is my favourite.
vs
Palm+Forest A vs Palm+Forest BSpoiler (click to show/hide)I like the first map more. Looking forward to the tiles!I can't contextually figure out which first map you are referring to.
'J' doesn't distinguish much between the three kinds of green texture, so I wouldn't know that there are swamps or different forests at a glance. In the palm options, the added background makes it unclear that it's a palm tree; I prefer the 'P'-style palms. The pine trees are OK on the background, but it would be good to increase the contrast or define the edge a bit more.
The new saplings look great!
Post by: Chimerat on July 17, 2014, 06:33:20 pm
I'm working on a 'new' Sapling tile!Very nice! (Just to be sure, those are trees you can't cut down, smaller trees you can cut down, or are they some new type of plan completely? [Sorry, I haven't really had time to play with DF2014 just yet. I will have the weekend off, though! :D])
Post by: Phoebus on July 17, 2014, 07:17:42 pm
Spoiler: Sapling Adjusted (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Sapling on World Map (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: More contrast for Tropical Forest (click to show/hide)
Post by: sal880612m on July 17, 2014, 07:20:07 pm
Post by: King Mir on July 17, 2014, 07:22:36 pm
I like the jungle tile in J on principle, but it's not obvious that it's supposed to be jungle.
And I like the sapping a lot.
Post by: PeridexisErrant on July 17, 2014, 07:47:43 pm
Sapling adjusted, on world map, tropical forest with contrastI love all of these.
Post by: fricy on July 18, 2014, 04:51:21 am
I prefer this to J/P.Spoiler: More contrast for Tropical Forest (click to show/hide)
Post by: chronicpayne on July 18, 2014, 07:20:11 am
Spoiler: I'm working on a 'new' Sapling tile! (click to show/hide)I like the second least. I can't really tell the difference between the last two."A" has the palm leaves shifted down two pixels. "B" has the palm leaves at the same location as the lone palm tree.
I think "B" has a better contrast. I'll also try a version with a darker background forest.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Palm+Forest B / final look is really nice.
Excited to see this coming along.
Post by: Phoebus on July 18, 2014, 02:29:37 pm
Spoiler: New Tree Flowers and Open Space tiles (click to show/hide)
Post by: as-der-reiter on July 18, 2014, 03:36:10 pm
Post by: sal880612m on July 18, 2014, 03:42:17 pm
Post by: Phoebus on July 18, 2014, 04:56:16 pm
I've generated four sample with dark/bright and sparse/dense.
The distribution of flowers in tiles must be improved, but I'd like to get some external view before I move forward.
Is this new pattern preferable to the old? If so, which is your favorite pattern along the Darker/Dark/Mid/Bright and Sparser/Sparse/Mid/Dense/Denser axis?
Your opinion of the brightness and density of the old pattern would also be helpful.
Spoiler: Dark Sparse (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Bright Sparse (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Dark Dense (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Bright Dense (click to show/hide)
Post by: NullForceOmega on July 18, 2014, 05:29:44 pm
Post by: crossmr on July 18, 2014, 07:20:14 pm
Post by: Phoebus on July 18, 2014, 07:43:04 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/oVa5Crc.png)
Was there ever a solution for the disappearing text problem?I've not heard about the problem in 0.40.0x either way.
Post by: Phoebus on July 18, 2014, 07:54:45 pm
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[GROWTH:FLOWERS]Color 8:0:1 in the [GROWTH_PRINT is invalid.
[GROWTH_NAME:taro flower:STP]
[GROWTH_ITEM:PLANT_GROWTH:NONE:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:FLOWER]
[GROWTH_DENSITY:1000]
[GROWTH_TIMING:60000:119999]
[GROWTH_PRINT:5:5:8:0:1:60000:119999:2]
Post by: MaximumZero on July 18, 2014, 08:05:39 pm
Post by: Phoebus on July 18, 2014, 08:06:42 pm
Spoiler: Tree and Plant Flowers (click to show/hide)
Post by: PeridexisErrant on July 18, 2014, 08:19:39 pm
Post by: Raul on July 18, 2014, 09:19:15 pm
The problem persists, unfortunately. Just watch PlumpHelmetPunk's most recent DF video on YouTube and you'll see. I can give you a temporary solution though, crossmr: just press F10 twice (or is it F12? too lazy to check) and it should temporarily fix it, but it'll come back after a bit.Was there ever a solution for the disappearing text problem?I've not heard about the problem in 0.40.0x either way.
Post by: Descan on July 18, 2014, 09:42:21 pm
Post by: King Mir on July 18, 2014, 11:11:47 pm
Are ground flowers walkable?
Post by: Phoebus on July 19, 2014, 12:36:33 am
Spoiler: Tree and Plant Fruits (click to show/hide)
Are ground flowers walkable?Yes. They're plants, with flowers. A few months later you get plants, with fruits.
Post by: sal880612m on July 19, 2014, 12:56:44 am
New flowers look really good as well.
Post by: chronicpayne on July 19, 2014, 04:01:29 am
If anything maybe even sparser?
Either way great stuff.
Post by: Chimerat on July 19, 2014, 08:01:36 am
I do love the flowers on the ground though (with the stems), my eyes just start watering with the bundles of dots beside each other.
Post by: Phoebus on July 19, 2014, 09:49:15 pm
New Leaf, Forest, Sapling, Plant, Flower, Fruit, and Open Space Tiles.
Mushroom Tree pillar tile changed.
Removed the Meld optional tileset and the optional DejaVu font.
Post by: Phoebus on July 19, 2014, 10:05:40 pm
I know some of the tile choices I've settled on are far from perfect, but I had to release the new tiles at some point.
I'll keep improving the tiles when I can.
Post by: King Mir on July 19, 2014, 10:59:04 pm
Small Nit: You forgot to remove mention of Phoebus_16x16_Meld.png from the readme.
Post by: Phoebus on July 20, 2014, 06:10:57 pm
DF version updated.
Post by: Moonshadow101 on July 20, 2014, 06:18:59 pm
Post by: Dyrxaend on July 20, 2014, 06:24:05 pm
Post by: palu on July 20, 2014, 08:33:38 pm
Post by: Phoebus on July 20, 2014, 08:48:49 pm
The human lords and ladies don't have graphics.Could you share a screenshot?
Post by: Dyrxaend on July 21, 2014, 12:25:30 am
For the first time in like three months.
Post by: Kuxe on July 21, 2014, 05:27:27 am
Post by: SammyLiimex on July 21, 2014, 06:21:22 am
Spoiler: Tree and Plant Flowers (click to show/hide)
Are those just generic background plants or did he add new things for fort mode in 40 that use them? Seems liek a waste to have pretty flowers and not let our dwarves plant flower gardens around your fort of death
Post by: Phoebus on July 21, 2014, 11:52:00 am
Are those just generic background plants or did he add new things for fort mode in 40 that use them? Seems liek a waste to have pretty flowers and not let our dwarves plant flower gardens around your fort of deathNew plants. Among them is rice, maize, melon, cotton.
They're not flower tiles, they're plant tiles that bloom with flowers in the flowering season.
It would be nice with pink-colored graphics for Cherry flowers that drop from trees, instead of white as of now. I'd add it myself if I knew howto..Not possible. There's only 16 colors and pink isn't one of them.
Post by: Meph on July 21, 2014, 12:05:13 pm
Quote
Not possible. There's only 16 colors and pink isn't one of them.I dont want to yell TwbT all the time, but mifki is actually working on that as well. Removing that 16 color limit will be a feature of it in future releases.
Post by: fricy on July 21, 2014, 12:09:34 pm
QuoteNot possible. There's only 16 colors and pink isn't one of them.I dont want to yell TwbT all the time, but mifki is actually working on that as well. Removing that 16 color limit will be a feature of it in future releases.
Having fun with TWBT today...Spoiler (click to show/hide)
And isometric display apparently... :o
Post by: Descan on July 21, 2014, 12:17:44 pm
Post by: Meph on July 21, 2014, 12:25:16 pm
Er, I thought having Stonesense run in the game window was already a thing at some point...?Thats not stonesense, thats DF ^^
Post by: Descan on July 21, 2014, 12:58:44 pm
To reiterate: I thought having stonesense running in the DF game window was already a thing at some point?
Post by: Meph on July 21, 2014, 01:07:50 pm
...This is getting off-topic a bit, but thats not stonesense. Its TwbT. Just have a look in its thread (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=138754.555), its better than filling the phoebus thread with it. (Edit: I feel like a hyppocrite for typing that, so sorry.)
To reiterate: I thought having stonesense running in the DF game window was already a thing at some point?
Phoebus, a suggestion for the leaves tile: Did you ever check how it looks with round leaves, a bit larger than the current ones? The current ones could very much be used as grass as well, and the leaves on them are tiny in comparison to the massive trunks/branches.
Post by: Descan on July 21, 2014, 01:15:53 pm
andbeforeyoutwistTHOSEwords, I *also* know what other stuff TwbT does that's so special. :I But the isometric display was already being done by stonesense so why is TwbT special for doing the same thing?
Post by: Phoebus on July 21, 2014, 02:10:55 pm
The problem with cherry blossom is that they fall to the ground, and when they do they do not have their own tile display, they just change the color of whatever they fell on.QuoteNot possible. There's only 16 colors and pink isn't one of them.I dont want to yell TwbT all the time, but mifki is actually working on that as well. Removing that 16 color limit will be a feature of it in future releases.
I could easily do pink flowers for them, although the tile wouldn't have green leaves anymore as a background. But I can't do if I can't control the displayed tile.
Even if TwbT enables 24bit, it won't help when it can't handle DF's color switching shenanigans.
Post by: Mokkun on July 22, 2014, 09:07:50 am
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Archmonk on July 22, 2014, 09:10:51 am
Post by: Phoebus on July 22, 2014, 11:16:08 am
Phoebus, thanks for the amazing tileset and such quick updates for the latest versions. Your efforts are appreciated!Thank you! :)
Just some nitpicking but it seems my gold door to barracks is using the bar look instead of the door look.Sadly, that's hardcoded. The tile used by DF to display doors changes based on the material. Most doors will use tile 197 (normal door), wooden doors use tile 186 inverted (north/south wall), metal doors use tile 216 (metal door) or tile 240 (bars/metal door/many other hardcoded things).https://www.dropbox.com/s/xshwmjkpydhtkjz/Gold%20door%20bars.jpgSpoiler (click to show/hide)
I can't fix golden doors without using TwbT, unless you want all metal bars and other things hardcoded to tile 240 to also look like metal doors.
Post by: Mokkun on July 22, 2014, 11:20:39 am
Ahh, so thats why. nah. not that important specially if its a hardcode issue..Just some nitpicking but it seems my gold door to barracks is using the bar look instead of the door look.Sadly, that's hardcoded. The tile used by DF to display doors changes based on the material. Most doors will use tile 197 (normal door), wooden doors use tile 186 inverted (north/south wall), metal doors use tile 216 (metal door) or tile 240 (bars/metal door/many other hardcoded things).https://www.dropbox.com/s/xshwmjkpydhtkjz/Gold%20door%20bars.jpgSpoiler (click to show/hide)
I can't fix golden doors without using TwbT, unless you want all metal bars and other things hardcoded to tile 240 to also look like metal doors.
Oh. And thanks for your hard work.
Post by: crossmr on July 23, 2014, 10:00:22 am
The problem persists, unfortunately. Just watch PlumpHelmetPunk's most recent DF video on YouTube and you'll see. I can give you a temporary solution though, crossmr: just press F10 twice (or is it F12? too lazy to check) and it should temporarily fix it, but it'll come back after a bit.Was there ever a solution for the disappearing text problem?I've not heard about the problem in 0.40.0x either way.
Yeah, I've got it all over my game, words, numbers, etc all cut off. Default install.
Post by: Shrike77 on July 23, 2014, 04:57:57 pm
Unusual question - let's say I wanted to create a .BMP version of a pack (for the legacy non-SDL 34.11 version of DF). Would it be as simple as modifying the .PNG files into suitable 24-bit bitmaps, dealing with transparency issues (i.e. replacing surrounding transparency with magenta and solidifying transparencies on top of the graphics) or would there be more involved? Do graphics positions and references in the raw files remain the same? Struggling to find any guides on how to create .BMP graphics packs presumably because .PNGs replaced them long ago. Please excuse my ignorance!
Post by: Phoebus on July 23, 2014, 09:04:58 pm
Love the graphics pack! Kudos on the amazing work.Converting my graphic pack to BMP? That's insane! Don't do that!
Unusual question - let's say I wanted to create a .BMP version of a pack (for the legacy non-SDL 34.11 version of DF). Would it be as simple as modifying the .PNG files into suitable 24-bit bitmaps, dealing with transparency issues (i.e. replacing surrounding transparency with magenta and solidifying transparencies on top of the graphics) or would there be more involved? Do graphics positions and references in the raw files remain the same? Struggling to find any guides on how to create .BMP graphics packs presumably because .PNGs replaced them long ago. Please excuse my ignorance!
I spent A LOT of time transforming my BMP tileset into a PNG tileset. My graphic pack has changed a lot since then, it now has a lot more semi-transparency, and it would take you a ridiculous amount of time to make it look half good as a BMP tileset.
You'll be much better off using either, one of the old BMP tilesets (magenta = BMP, dark magenta = PNG) (http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Tileset_repository#16.C3.9716), converting a low-alpha-transparency tileset or graphic pack to BMP (CLA or Mayday are good options I think), or fixing your graphic card problems.
Post by: Shrike77 on July 24, 2014, 03:29:33 am
Converting my graphic pack to BMP? That's insane! Don't do that!
I spent A LOT of time transforming my BMP tileset into a PNG tileset. My graphic pack has changed a lot since then, it now has a lot more semi-transparency, and it would take you a ridiculous amount of time to make it look half good as a BMP tileset.
You'll be much better off using either, one of the old BMP tilesets (magenta = BMP, dark magenta = PNG) (http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Tileset_repository#16.C3.9716), converting a low-alpha-transparency tileset or graphic pack to BMP (CLA or Mayday are good options I think), or fixing your graphic card problems.
Thanks for the quick reply. I know it's a little crazy but I've spent so long attempting to fix the underlying graphics card problem that a few days playing with images might actually be good for my sanity. The basic tilesets aren't a massive problem, it's the graphics for dwarves and creatures that are the biggest puzzle. If I took your suggestion of modifying a low-transparency pack to BMP would there be any modifying of data files needed, or simply the transformation of PNGs to BMPs?
Post by: pamelrabo on July 24, 2014, 04:36:57 pm
Phoebus, thanks for the amazing tileset and such quick updates for the latest versions. Your efforts are appreciated!
Your gorgeous tileset made me start into DF.
And while I enjoy it in ascii mode... well, I prefer your tileset looks.
i fantasize from time to time to create a romanic - medieval looking tileset, but it won't ever look as well as yours.
Post by: Phoebus on July 24, 2014, 07:37:39 pm
There are no RAW differences between SDL and legacy. But data/init/init.txt is completely different. I don't know, because I never work with legacy, if the SDL init.txt is compatible with legacy.Converting my graphic pack to BMP? That's insane! Don't do that!
I spent A LOT of time transforming my BMP tileset into a PNG tileset. My graphic pack has changed a lot since then, it now has a lot more semi-transparency, and it would take you a ridiculous amount of time to make it look half good as a BMP tileset.
You'll be much better off using either, one of the old BMP tilesets (magenta = BMP, dark magenta = PNG) (http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Tileset_repository#16.C3.9716), converting a low-alpha-transparency tileset or graphic pack to BMP (CLA or Mayday are good options I think), or fixing your graphic card problems.
Thanks for the quick reply. I know it's a little crazy but I've spent so long attempting to fix the underlying graphics card problem that a few days playing with images might actually be good for my sanity. The basic tilesets aren't a massive problem, it's the graphics for dwarves and creatures that are the biggest puzzle. If I took your suggestion of modifying a low-transparency pack to BMP would there be any modifying of data files needed, or simply the transformation of PNGs to BMPs?
Post by: Shrike77 on July 26, 2014, 04:10:18 am
There are no RAW differences between SDL and legacy. But data/init/init.txt is completely different. I don't know, because I never work with legacy, if the SDL init.txt is compatible with legacy.
Cheers for the info.
I've edited the init.txt file quite a bit so hopefully I can handle that aspect. I'll have a go at modifying an existing pack then and see what happens. Maybe I'll be helping a multitude of legacy DF players that so far have been as frustrated as me.
Or maybe it's just me...
Post by: Phoebus on July 27, 2014, 09:48:58 pm
Post by: crossmr on July 27, 2014, 10:39:41 pm
and "missing word definition" when I try to load my save.
even tried copying over a fresh init.txt from the pack without running the updater. still "missing word definition"
[2nd edit]
copied over a fresh init.txt from the official release, and its still not loading, missing word definition.
game loads fine under 40.04
[3rd edit]
I unpacked the game, copied my save loaded it, it works fine
I ran the init updater
it still loads fine.
ran the save game updater
"missing word definition"
any ideas?
Post by: Phoebus on July 27, 2014, 11:03:00 pm
There's plenty of .bak files all over the place.
Will be releasing 0.40.05v01 soon.
Just downloaded, installed it , copied over the save. Ran the init updater and save updaterThe problem is that 40.05 updated the language files. And changed 'YOR' into 'YORE', so you can't run the savegame updater from 40.04 to 40.05 without restoring the language_DWARF.txt, and co. to your original savegame files.
and "missing word definition" when I try to load my save.
even tried copying over a fresh init.txt from the pack without running the updater. still "missing word definition"
[2nd edit]
copied over a fresh init.txt from the official release, and its still not loading, missing word definition.
game loads fine under 40.04
Post by: crossmr on July 27, 2014, 11:06:32 pm
Warning, my 0.40.05 release is damaged, you need to run the savegame updater to not generate corrupted worlds.
There's plenty of .bak files all over the place.
Will be releasing 0.40.05v01 soon.Just downloaded, installed it , copied over the save. Ran the init updater and save updaterThe problem is that 40.05 updated the language files. And changed 'YOR' into 'YORE', so you can't run the savegame updater from 40.04 to 40.05 without restoring the language_DWARF.txt, and co. to your original savegame files.
and "missing word definition" when I try to load my save.
even tried copying over a fresh init.txt from the pack without running the updater. still "missing word definition"
[2nd edit]
copied over a fresh init.txt from the official release, and its still not loading, missing word definition.
game loads fine under 40.04
My problem is it works until I run the savegame updater. If i don't run it, it will load fine. I'll wait for your fix though.
Post by: King Mir on July 27, 2014, 11:11:53 pm
Hope that's cool.
Post by: Phoebus on July 27, 2014, 11:14:59 pm
I'm not uploading a fix for the updater problem. Generally, the savegame updater should NOT be used between major DF versions. Only between minor DF versions. Because Toady can add/remove things to the raws that break raw compatibility. Most of the time it works ok, but in 0.40.05 a word has been replaced.Warning, my 0.40.05 release is damaged, you need to run the savegame updater to not generate corrupted worlds.
There's plenty of .bak files all over the place.
Will be releasing 0.40.05v01 soon.Just downloaded, installed it , copied over the save. Ran the init updater and save updaterThe problem is that 40.05 updated the language files. And changed 'YOR' into 'YORE', so you can't run the savegame updater from 40.04 to 40.05 without restoring the language_DWARF.txt, and co. to your original savegame files.
and "missing word definition" when I try to load my save.
even tried copying over a fresh init.txt from the pack without running the updater. still "missing word definition"
[2nd edit]
copied over a fresh init.txt from the official release, and its still not loading, missing word definition.
game loads fine under 40.04
My problem is it works until I run the savegame updater. If i don't run it, it will load fine. I'll wait for your fix though.
If you want to update your raws, you'll need to preserve and restrore your savegame's language raws after you update, so the old vocabulary is no longer missing after updating.
Post by: crossmr on July 27, 2014, 11:23:52 pm
I'm not uploading a fix for the updater problem. Generally, the savegame updater should NOT be used between major DF versions. Only between minor DF versions. Because Toady can add/remove things to the raws that break raw compatibility. Most of the time it works ok, but in 0.40.05 a word has been replaced.Warning, my 0.40.05 release is damaged, you need to run the savegame updater to not generate corrupted worlds.
There's plenty of .bak files all over the place.
Will be releasing 0.40.05v01 soon.Just downloaded, installed it , copied over the save. Ran the init updater and save updaterThe problem is that 40.05 updated the language files. And changed 'YOR' into 'YORE', so you can't run the savegame updater from 40.04 to 40.05 without restoring the language_DWARF.txt, and co. to your original savegame files.
and "missing word definition" when I try to load my save.
even tried copying over a fresh init.txt from the pack without running the updater. still "missing word definition"
[2nd edit]
copied over a fresh init.txt from the official release, and its still not loading, missing word definition.
game loads fine under 40.04
My problem is it works until I run the savegame updater. If i don't run it, it will load fine. I'll wait for your fix though.
If you want to update your raws, you'll need to preserve and restrore your savegame's language raws after you update, so the old vocabulary is no longer missing after updating.
How does one do that? Is there a guide for updating saves manually?
Post by: Phoebus on July 27, 2014, 11:23:58 pm
Removed file doubles in the raw folder.
Post by: Dutchling on July 28, 2014, 05:51:01 am
Post by: crossmr on July 28, 2014, 06:03:37 am
How do you update a savegame? I moved over the region1 folder and ran both update .BATs but the game give me a "FATAL ERROR: Missing world definition" error.
edit all the language_*.txt files and change YORE to YOR
Post by: Dutchling on July 28, 2014, 06:10:28 am
Post by: Mokkun on July 28, 2014, 09:48:25 am
Jupp. this worked for me too.. :) thanks.How do you update a savegame? I moved over the region1 folder and ran both update .BATs but the game give me a "FATAL ERROR: Missing world definition" error.
edit all the language_*.txt files and change YORE to YOR
Post by: Moonshadow101 on July 28, 2014, 01:41:27 pm
Post by: Phoebus on July 28, 2014, 01:42:54 pm
Unpack this in your 0.40.05 install, and run "df_savegame_compatibility_updater_Phoebus_40_04.bat" to fix all your savegames raws to be compatible with 0.40.04.
Warning, it will break savegames that have been generated with 0.40.05. So generate your 0.40.05 worlds only AFTER running the compatibility updater.
Compatibility Updater for Phoebus_40_04 worlds (115KB) (http://www.mediafire.com/download/ij69t0pa9xabwfw/Compatibility_Updater_Phoebus_40_04.zip)
I hope this will help.
Post by: Phoebus on July 28, 2014, 01:46:13 pm
Thanks for the quick update. Only issue I'm having is the unsmoothed Obsidian tile is wrong.>.>
This has not been a great update for me.
Post by: Phoebus on July 28, 2014, 02:35:08 pm
Fixed rough Obsidian tile.
Included the Compatibility Updater for Phoebus_40_04 worlds.
Post by: Moonshadow101 on July 28, 2014, 06:17:15 pm
Post by: SalmonGod on July 28, 2014, 06:25:40 pm
Thanks for everything forever.
So... Phoebus, you can do anything you want, and this person will be thankful for it. I say get creative!
Post by: Moonshadow101 on July 28, 2014, 08:05:58 pm
Post by: Phoebus on August 03, 2014, 03:46:47 pm
Updated to Dwarf Fortress 0.40.06.
Post by: PeridexisErrant on August 03, 2014, 07:05:00 pm
Post by: Phoebus on August 03, 2014, 07:32:25 pm
I just noticed in the OP... you're pointing people to the old LNP, which has been retired fro a while now :(Thank you for informing me.
I've removed the old LNP link and wurli's Linux link, and added King Mir's Linux link.
Edit.: And added a link for DF Starter Pack.
Post by: King Mir on August 03, 2014, 08:45:44 pm
Post by: Phoebus on August 03, 2014, 10:10:07 pm
Post by: pexium on August 04, 2014, 03:40:14 pm
Great tileset btw, thanks for the work you have put into it.
Post by: HunterBlackLuna on August 05, 2014, 08:26:17 pm
Post by: palu on August 06, 2014, 10:29:23 pm
Milker on far left.The human lords and ladies don't have graphics.Could you share a screenshot?
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Meph on August 07, 2014, 12:30:18 am
(http://i.imgur.com/QRaSW4i.png)
They are thinner versions of the dwarven version, without beard and with a human head.
Post by: Phoebus on August 07, 2014, 02:23:51 pm
Milker on far left.That's a Lye Maker. Fitting for a king.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
But the problem is it's not even using the correct placeholder tile. It's using the lye maker tile, and it's colored instead of as-is.
I have no idea what's causing the problem.
I noticed that a while ago, when I made the graphics for the human civ. Mayor, Count, Baron and King were not in the same style as the rest of the set. I made those to fix it:Thank you, I've added them for the next version.
(http://i.imgur.com/QRaSW4i.png)
They are thinner versions of the dwarven version, without beard and with a human head.
Post by: Phoebus on August 10, 2014, 04:05:42 pm
Added Meph's new human monarchs.
Updated to Dwarf Fortress 0.40.07.
Post by: Midboss on August 11, 2014, 12:37:26 am
Version 40 of dwarf fortress seems to choose dwarven icons in the legends historical map for dwarven races and so on but I would like to be able to tell on embark rather than remembering where everyone extends their power when switching to embark mode. It also seems that on world generation it describes what race inhabits which settlements but then the historical map no longer describes which race is in the settlement.
Please implement this suggestion.
Post by: Phoebus on August 11, 2014, 09:54:01 am
It would be nice if there was a unit from the race showing as the civilization icon in embark mode like a lowly peasant for a village and a king for the capital or an option to customize this in the phoebus tileset assembler. I had no idea the cabinets represented goblin settlements until I started doing some research for this post.No.
Version 40 of dwarf fortress seems to choose dwarven icons in the legends historical map for dwarven races and so on but I would like to be able to tell on embark rather than remembering where everyone extends their power when switching to embark mode. It also seems that on world generation it describes what race inhabits which settlements but then the historical map no longer describes which race is in the settlement.
Please implement this suggestion.
Post by: Meph on August 11, 2014, 10:42:33 am
All tilesets except Ironhand have some duplicate wall tiles. Literally the same graphics, although they are used differently in the game. Some of the are wall-to-wall and other are wall-to-natural-rock. Your set has 4 tiles that exist 3 times, looking the same, although they could look different and would improve the look of a fort.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I did a quick mock-up with paint to show exactly what I mean:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Suggestion: Make 8 new tiles for the ones I mentioned, and blur the most common inorganic/rock tile you have into these walls, so that you have a natural, flowing progress from smoothed wall to natural rock wall.
Post by: King Mir on August 11, 2014, 03:20:21 pm
Post by: LeoCean on August 11, 2014, 03:28:04 pm
Post by: thistleknot on August 11, 2014, 04:43:05 pm
at least with 40_07 and 40_08 nope. So the 40_07 phoebus data/init folder can be copied over a 40_08 installation
Post by: mnjiman on August 11, 2014, 05:56:50 pm
Post by: GoldenShadow on August 11, 2014, 06:00:23 pm
Is there any reason why the graphics set could not be used on versions 40.05 through 40.08? It's labeled as 40.07 only, but is that really the case?
Some of Toady's bug fixes include changes to the raws. If you use raws from an older version, you don't benefit from the bug fixes. However, the latest release from .40.07 to .40.08 only has a new binary exe. the raws were not changed.
Post by: thistleknot on August 11, 2014, 06:04:54 pm
Is there any reason why the graphics set could not be used on versions 40.05 through 40.08? It's labeled as 40.07 only, but is that really the case?
Some of Toady's bug fixes include changes to the raws. If you use raws from an older version, you don't benefit from the bug fixes. However, the latest release from .40.07 to .40.08 only has a new binary exe. the raws were not changed.
yes, exactly. My point was I hit up on a winmerge comparison between the two folders before my post.
It's entirely trivial. Open up winmerge (free app), and compare two folders. If nothing in creature*.txt or plant*.txt or .\data changed, you're good.
But it makes more sense after a while, because Toady documents his file changes apparently.
Post by: Phoebus on August 11, 2014, 06:05:09 pm
Post by: Phoebus on August 11, 2014, 06:19:43 pm
Updated to Dwarf Fortress 0.40.08.
Post by: Lemunde on August 11, 2014, 08:01:13 pm
*Updated* 0.40.08v00
Updated to Dwarf Fortress 0.40.08.
Good job! ;D
Post by: billw on August 12, 2014, 09:48:24 am
Post by: Meph on August 12, 2014, 10:04:10 am
Thanks for the tile set, it is my favorite. Just one question, is there some trick to stop strings from overwriting parts of the UI? i.e. the blank area that sometimes extends out further than the end of the string.No. TrueType helps a bit, try pressing F12 ingame.
Post by: LeoCean on August 12, 2014, 09:48:44 pm
Post by: Phoebus on August 13, 2014, 10:22:32 am
Is there anyway to make the swarm of flies show up as anything but tile 177? In creature_insects they are tile:250 but they don't show up as it, and if you add them to the graphics, graphics_nwkohaku_bugs for example they still don't show up as anything different. Not that it really matters. :'( I think they probably carry the miasma around with them maybe which gives them the tile 177.Vermin can't have their tiles replaced with tiles from the graphics folders. It's an engine limitation.
Vermin that swarm will use hardcoded tiles, like tile 177, to represent the swarm.
Yes, it sucks.
Post by: Phoebus on August 14, 2014, 01:13:59 pm
Maybe another suggestion?I've considered that suggestion, but I do not like that style for multiple reasons.
All tilesets except Ironhand have some duplicate wall tiles. Literally the same graphics, although they are used differently in the game. Some of the are wall-to-wall and other are wall-to-natural-rock. Your set has 4 tiles that exist 3 times, looking the same, although they could look different and would improve the look of a fort.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I did a quick mock-up with paint to show exactly what I mean:Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Suggestion: Make 8 new tiles for the ones I mentioned, and blur the most common inorganic/rock tile you have into these walls, so that you have a natural, flowing progress from smoothed wall to natural rock wall.
Even in ASCII those walls terminations are only walls, not wall/stone hybrids. ex: ╘════╛
Also, I cannot represent the appropriate stone texture for the stone type with it's specific foreground and background colors.
I think I'd rather just change those wall ends into pillars. Doing so could also save one tile as I could use one of those 8 tiles in replacement for the tile I currently use for the normal pillar.
Post by: King Mir on August 17, 2014, 08:09:38 pm
Post by: alcon678 on August 18, 2014, 12:31:10 pm
I find the MDF version more clear than standard phoebus, expecially with grass
Thank you ;)
Post by: Phoebus on August 18, 2014, 09:02:32 pm
Updated to Dwarf Fortress 0.40.09.
Post by: Phoebus on August 18, 2014, 09:04:37 pm
Post by: TheHossofMoss on August 18, 2014, 11:54:41 pm
I'm very busy at the moment and can't find the time to make any changes to the graphic set. I've at least updated to the latest version. Sorry for the delay.
Thank you for all you do, Phoebus. I highly appreciate your work.
Post by: Chimerat on August 19, 2014, 12:20:54 am
Seconded!I'm very busy at the moment and can't find the time to make any changes to the graphic set. I've at least updated to the latest version. Sorry for the delay.
Thank you for all you do, Phoebus. I highly appreciate your work.
Post by: Raul on August 19, 2014, 11:14:18 am
Thirded!Seconded!I'm very busy at the moment and can't find the time to make any changes to the graphic set. I've at least updated to the latest version. Sorry for the delay.
Thank you for all you do, Phoebus. I highly appreciate your work.
Post by: Lemunde on August 19, 2014, 11:34:40 pm
Post by: LeoCean on August 21, 2014, 03:52:19 am
I tested a spacefox save with the lazynewbpack and it shows the one from the tileset and when I converted it to phoebus with lazynewbpack and it was from the tileset still. But Meph was somehow able to get them to take the graphic from the phoebus_goblin tileset, from what I saw from quill18's dwarf fortress series (he had a goblin thief in the cage video 10 of the recent series).
Spoiler: Big image (click to show/hide)
That's from the spacefox version but they looked the same when I loaded it with phoebus 0_40_08, also for some reason Ettin shows up as E, giantess on the other hand doesn't have a graphic in the set so it gets G. That's in cages at least..
Post by: Chimerat on August 21, 2014, 05:22:59 am
[...]also for some reason Ettin shows up as E, giantess on the other hand doesn't have a graphic in the set so it gets G. That's in cages at least..That's what happens to any chicks/cats I put into cages.
Post by: Xerberus on August 21, 2014, 06:28:13 am
Do goblins in cages with the Phoebus graphics set look like the one from the art/tileset or from the raw/graphics/phoebus/goblins?
I tested a spacefox save with the lazynewbpack and it shows the one from the tileset and when I converted it to phoebus with lazynewbpack and it was from the tileset still. But Meph was somehow able to get them to take the graphic from the phoebus_goblin tileset, from what I saw from quill18's dwarf fortress series (he had a goblin thief in the cage video 10 of the recent series).Spoiler: Big image (click to show/hide)
That's from the spacefox version but they looked the same when I loaded it with phoebus 0_40_08, also for some reason Ettin shows up as E, giantess on the other hand doesn't have a graphic in the set so it gets G. That's in cages at least..
if you mean the ducimvel videos, then these are with DF2012.
Post by: King Mir on August 21, 2014, 08:30:19 am
Post by: LeoCean on August 21, 2014, 02:23:31 pm
if you mean the ducimvel videos, then these are with DF2012.
Yeah I know they are with Masterwork 5.10 or w.e version of masterwork he is using. But I don't see anything special he is using to do it. I was hoping Meph would show up.
Post by: Xerberus on August 21, 2014, 03:31:44 pm
if you mean the ducimvel videos, then these are with DF2012.
Yeah I know they are with Masterwork 5.10 or w.e version of masterwork he is using. But I don't see anything special he is using to do it. I was hoping Meph would show up.
if you watch the first episode you'll see that for the ducimvel LP serise he does not use the masterwork mod but the starter pack. the graphic pack / tileset he uses is the "phoebus_twbt_fricy" version.
http://youtu.be/gmKCvSJVwOw?t=9m15s
Post by: LeoCean on August 21, 2014, 04:41:23 pm
Post by: PeridexisErrant on August 21, 2014, 05:23:41 pm
Post by: LeoCean on August 22, 2014, 04:52:57 pm
Anyways feather tree has a mistype in phoebus pack. Plants_standard. Idk if that mistake is in the starter pack but it's in the 40_09 version dl version of this pack.
[GROWTH:EGGS]
[GROWTH_NAME:feather tree egg:STP]
Is what it should be and phoebus has.
[GROWTH_NAME:her tree egg:STP]
Post by: Phoebus on August 22, 2014, 06:18:31 pm
Quote from: 0.40.08v00 & 0.40.09v00
[GROWTH:EGGS]
[GROWTH_NAME:feather tree egg:STP]
Post by: LeoCean on August 22, 2014, 07:12:21 pm
Post by: Phoebus on August 24, 2014, 04:52:34 pm
Updated to Dwarf Fortress 0.40.10.
(No RAW changes)
Post by: King Mir on September 03, 2014, 10:56:37 pm
I did not include the dwarves liking to eat trees fix, because that requires raw tweaking.
Post by: fricy on September 04, 2014, 02:48:24 am
I did not include the dwarves liking to eat trees fix, because that requires raw tweaking.About those plant template changes: will they break existing saves, or are they safe to upgrade?
Post by: LeoCean on September 04, 2014, 06:48:16 am
Post by: fricy on September 04, 2014, 07:03:09 am
They won't I tested it with spacefox. Though toady would have said if they did.Thx for the confirmation.
Post by: Phoebus on September 05, 2014, 08:24:45 am
Updated to Dwarf Fortress 0.40.11.
Removed the Compatibility Updater for Phoebus_40_04 worlds.
Post by: dwarf_reform on September 05, 2014, 03:03:50 pm
Thanks again, Sir Phoebus!
EDIT: On your front page the 'Pre-Installed Package for Windows @DFFD (w/ DF 0.40.10)' hasn't had its number updated yet (though all is well and updated at DFFD, of course) :)
Post by: Phoebus on September 05, 2014, 06:30:33 pm
I spent all day yesterday rabidly reloading waiting for the above post to appear :) TODAY.. BRINGS SATISFACTION!Thank you for sharing your enthusiasm, and for noting my oversight. :D
Thanks again, Sir Phoebus!
EDIT: On your front page the 'Pre-Installed Package for Windows @DFFD (w/ DF 0.40.10)' hasn't had its number updated yet (though all is well and updated at DFFD, of course) :)
Post by: ptb_ptb on September 11, 2014, 04:40:33 am
Wish me luck.
Post by: King Mir on September 11, 2014, 09:22:11 am
With that in mind, I updated the linux version to 0.40.12. (http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9179)
This does contain raw changes from the previous linux version, because I never got around to adding that plant fix to the old one.
Post by: Phoebus on September 11, 2014, 09:37:41 am
Updated to Dwarf Fortress 0.40.12.
(No RAW changes)
Post by: Kuikka on September 11, 2014, 09:47:41 am
Post by: TheHossofMoss on September 11, 2014, 10:09:13 am
*Updated* 0.40.12v00
Updated to Dwarf Fortress 0.40.12.
(No RAW changes)
Praise the Phoebus!
Post by: Kamamura on September 11, 2014, 02:06:12 pm
Post by: Aydjile on September 11, 2014, 08:14:33 pm
Post by: Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum on September 14, 2014, 01:37:44 pm
Post by: Phoebus on September 14, 2014, 11:13:57 pm
hey, phoebus! any news on progress regarding incorporation "text will be text" into your tileset?I currently don't have the time to work with TwbT, sorry.
It's the first thing I'll look into when I have more free time.
Post by: yasic on September 15, 2014, 11:44:16 am
I tried starting a new game, and everything works without an issue. This only happens when I load my old saves. I ran the file for savegame updater. Is there anything I can try to make this work?
Post by: LeoCean on September 15, 2014, 01:26:06 pm
Post by: yasic on September 15, 2014, 01:49:03 pm
I changed YORE to YOR in all the language files but it still is giving me the error.
Post by: LeoCean on September 15, 2014, 01:55:55 pm
It could be that you missed curiousity which turned into curiosity in 40.05. So you want the misspelled one (first), I don't think the other ones that were changed mattered because only the first word in the corrections seem to break saves from what I found out.
Post by: yasic on September 15, 2014, 02:09:13 pm
Post by: LeoCean on September 15, 2014, 02:26:46 pm
Post by: yasic on September 15, 2014, 02:53:57 pm
Post by: LeoCean on September 15, 2014, 03:21:30 pm
Post by: yasic on September 15, 2014, 05:01:40 pm
I'll just wait for the inevitable doom of my fortress and try a tileset on my next playthrough.
Post by: PeridexisErrant on September 15, 2014, 07:22:36 pm
I can upload it, what is the best way to do that?
http://dffd.wimbli.com/index.php
Free DF-related file hosting, for exactly this kind of thing.
I signed up for mediafire but that site only lets you upload 300 files at once and the save takes up way more.You should zip the folder (right-click, send to, compressed archive), and then it's only one file.
Post by: Phoebus on September 15, 2014, 09:39:54 pm
*snipped problem updating a savegame from 0.40.03*I've made a util to update savegames from DF 0.40.04 (or earlier) to 0.40.05 (or later).
It's on mediafire and the file called Compatibility_Updater_Phoebus_40_04.zip (http://www.mediafire.com/download/ij69t0pa9xabwfw/Compatibility_Updater_Phoebus_40_04.zip) .
Download that file, extract the zip in your DF installation directory, and run the updater batch file 'df_savegame_compatibility_updater_Phoebus_40_04.bat'.
I hope this will fix your problem.
Post by: yasic on September 15, 2014, 11:26:35 pm
Post by: kr0pper on September 16, 2014, 01:23:18 pm
It's for TwbT, 24x24, font is modifying Consolas.
Made for my big monitor and my poor eyesight. 8)
Example:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Download:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/71dxw3ss5y9ep0k/phoebus_twbt.png?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/71dxw3ss5y9ep0k/phoebus_twbt.png?dl=0)
init.txt
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: ptb_ptb on September 17, 2014, 04:06:05 pm
Find
[CREATURE:ELK_BIRD]
and change the line
[GRAZER:600]
to
[STANDARD_GRAZER]
Find
[CREATURE:DRALTHA]
and change the line
[GRAZER:24]
to
[STANDARD_GRAZER]
[EDIT] Lol, had that back to front. :P
Post by: LeoCean on September 17, 2014, 04:11:30 pm
You should be able to use the 40.12 version on 40.13, the only change that may make it incompatible is the d_init change. But the grazer changes can still use the old grazer #'s only those with the standard_grazer tag use the number from d_init. It'd be best to change them all to standard grazer just so if there are issues with that the issues are reported sooner rather than later.
Post by: ptb_ptb on September 17, 2014, 04:15:29 pm
Quote
All the grazers were changed to [STANDARD_GRAZER] from [GRAZER:#] in quite a few creature_.txt files + d_init was changed and [LARGE_PREDATOR] was added to the mega beasts that were meant to get it in 40.12. Your comparison utility is either bad or you just compared that one creature_.txt file and not the entire folder.
A bunch more files were changed. But creature_next_underground.txt is the only changed raw file that is distributed with Phoebus' Graphic Set.
Post by: LeoCean on September 17, 2014, 04:24:50 pm
creature_next_underground.txt, d_init, creature_standard.txt is all phoebus really needs to change. And that is going from the 40.12 Phoebus Graphics set release on the front page.
Post by: ptb_ptb on September 17, 2014, 04:39:11 pm
Post by: dwarf_reform on September 17, 2014, 05:08:40 pm
Seriously though, a horde of 80 undead just showed up to my unprepared fort and dropped my framerate from around 30 down to 5 :( Hoping this update may give me a little more speed so I can wage (failing) war a little faster :>
Post by: Chimerat on September 18, 2014, 06:26:49 pm
Post by: LeoCean on September 18, 2014, 07:09:04 pm
Post by: Phoebus on September 18, 2014, 07:52:19 pm
Updated to Dwarf Fortress 0.40.13.
Post by: TioFuna on September 18, 2014, 10:02:22 pm
I downloaded the Pre-Installed Package for Windows version and updated my saves and inits.
But my tiles no change. In this case are Honey Bee and Lungfish.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Why the Doren´s critterman tileset don´t work? Is only with Doren´s tileset?
Thanks
Post by: Chimerat on September 19, 2014, 05:23:20 am
*Updated* 0.40.13v00Thank you! Again. :D
Updated to Dwarf Fortress 0.40.13.
Post by: Phoebus on September 19, 2014, 10:26:14 am
Hello! A little question...Vermins are hardcoded to only use tiles from the basic tileset. They cannot use tiles from the graphics folder.
I downloaded the Pre-Installed Package for Windows version and updated my saves and inits.
But my tiles no change. In this case are Honey Bee and Lungfish.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Why the Doren´s critterman tileset don´t work? Is only with Doren´s tileset?
Thanks
Both Lungfish and Honey Bee are tagged as VERMIN.
Post by: King Mir on September 19, 2014, 08:36:22 pm
Post by: deathc4 on October 02, 2014, 03:51:40 am
Post by: LeoCean on October 02, 2014, 02:01:35 pm
Post by: dirkzen on October 13, 2014, 02:40:12 pm
Post by: Chimerat on October 20, 2014, 06:16:20 pm
If given the image files, I could flip them, but I don't know if it would be wasted effort since it depends on the restrictions on tiles for corpses.
Hopefully that makes sense. :-[
Post by: CLA on October 21, 2014, 04:07:34 am
Strange question, but are animal corpses hard coded? If not, would it be possible to somehow flip the creatures to indicate if they're dead (or something of that nature)?They're hardcoded to use the letter they would use by default, with a red background. Similarly, in adventure mode, creatures out of view cannot use a graphic. So, if you use creature graphics, dead creatures are already quite distinct from their living counterparts and don't really need any other indication.
If given the image files, I could flip them, but I don't know if it would be wasted effort since it depends on the restrictions on tiles for corpses.
Hopefully that makes sense. :-[
Post by: Chimerat on October 21, 2014, 07:38:24 am
So, if you use creature graphics, dead creatures are already quite distinct from their living counterparts and don't really need any other indication.I find it difficult to remember what the corpse is without a graphic, which is why I asked. If I "[didn't] really need any other indication", then I wouldn't have asked.
But thank you for the information anyway.
Post by: CLA on October 21, 2014, 08:07:13 am
I find it difficult to remember what the corpse is without a graphic, which is why I asked. If I "[didn't] really need any other indication", then I wouldn't have asked.Ah, yes of course, you still need some indication which specific dead animal it is. Wasn't trying to say anything else.
But thank you for the information anyway.
You could make a feature request in the TWBT thread.
Post by: LeoCean on October 21, 2014, 02:26:01 pm
You won't be able to set individual corpses though, it will likely have to be one corpse look for each letter or tile that is used and most likely when they are in cages they will look like those lumps of meat. But I kind of prefer it over the letters. I'd do it/ try it but I'm a tad too lazy to work on df atm.
Post by: Chimerat on October 25, 2014, 05:55:48 pm
Post by: Kamamura on October 25, 2014, 08:26:16 pm
Post by: ptb_ptb on October 26, 2014, 05:59:59 am
I suspect we, at the very least, require a stepladder image for this to be compatible with 40.14?
In the Phoebus' Graphics Set raw files:
creature_next_underground.txt, creature_standard.txt and creature_subterranean.txt
[LIKES_FIGHTING]
should be removed from a bunch of creatures.
And in item_tool.txt the stepladder details need to be added to the end. It uses 'TILE:158' but I have no idea what to do with that.
I didn't check the 'inorganic_*.txt' files because it seems very unlikely they will have changed.
Post by: fricy on October 26, 2014, 06:10:26 am
Plus add stepladder to entity_default.I suspect we, at the very least, require a stepladder image for this to be compatible with 40.14?In the Phoebus' Graphics Set raw files:
creature_next_underground.txt, creature_standard.txt and creature_subterranean.txt
[LIKES_FIGHTING]
should be removed from a bunch of creatures.
And in item_tool.txt the stepladder details need to be added to the end. It uses 'TILE:158' but I have no idea what to do with that.
I didn't check the 'inorganic_*.txt' files because it seems very unlikely they will have changed.
https://github.com/fricy/Phoebus/releases
Post by: Badger Storm on October 27, 2014, 04:00:15 am
I currently have the two separate folders, the vanilla DF folder and the Phoebus pack, sitting separately in my applications. Can ANYONE help me out, please? This is incredibly frustrating.
Post by: Chimerat on October 27, 2014, 06:28:26 am
I have been trying to install this pack for the latest version, but I don't know how to. For one, I have no idea what it means to unzip a file "over" something. Then it says to run DF_Phoebus_Init_Updater.bat. This file literally does not exist - I searched for it on the entire computer and found nothing close to it. I've never even heard of a .bat file! Even if I do eventually get those graphics installed, I don't quite know how to update my current saves. Do I just move their folders over to the new one?I haven't yet tried to update to 40.14 here (found another tileset that officially has a link to a 40.14 version).
I currently have the two separate folders, the vanilla DF folder and the Phoebus pack, sitting separately in my applications. Can ANYONE help me out, please? This is incredibly frustrating.
For previous versions, though, I just extracted the new version in its own folder, copied over the save files and then ran the updater. (It took me a while to find too. The updater is in the Phoebus folder. There should be two update files, if memory serves.)
Post by: Badger Storm on October 27, 2014, 06:45:04 am
Phoebus:
Raw-> graphics & objects -> what looks to be mostly graphics sheets and a few init files
Data -> art & init
Is it in one of the init files?
Post by: Chimerat on October 27, 2014, 07:30:17 am
I definitely appreciate your answer. There are a few sub-folders in the Phoebus folder (including one named Phoebus itself) and I'm rummaging through them, but I can't seem to find any updaters. I see:Okay... Checking the 40.13 folder I still have on the desktop. The "df_phoebus_init_updater" and "df_savegame_updater" files are in the same main folder as the "Dwarf Fortress.exe" file. And the data, raw and sdl folders.
Phoebus:
Raw-> graphics & objects -> what looks to be mostly graphics sheets and a few init files
Data -> art & init
Is it in one of the init files?
Hope that helps.
Post by: Badger Storm on October 27, 2014, 02:49:25 pm
I literally did a search on the entire computer - typed the exact file name in the search bars - and got no results. This isn't about being unable to find the files, it's about the files not existing at all. I literally can't install the graphics because I don't have the files to do so.
Post by: Chimerat on October 27, 2014, 03:03:41 pm
I literally can't install the graphics because I don't have the files to do so.Which would be why I'm waiting for 40.14 to officially be supported here... Yeah. :-\
Post by: fricy on October 27, 2014, 03:11:14 pm
Those files aren't there. df_osx (which I guess is the 40.14 folder)only has command line, file changes, readme, gamelog, and errorlog. It doesn't have Phoebus anything. Phoebus-40.14 only has nothing but data and raw folders.Next time please mention what OS you're using. Forget the .bat file, it's only usable on windows.
I literally did a search on the entire computer - typed the exact file name in the search bars - and got no results. This isn't about being unable to find the files, it's about the files not existing at all. I literally can't install the graphics because I don't have the files to do so.
I assume you have the zip file I linked to:
1. Extract it into a temporary directory, like downloads/phoebus.
2. Go to phoebus/raw and copy the graphics and object folders. Go to df_osx/raw and paste these folders here overwriting the existing directories
3. Go to phoebus/data/art and copy the contents. Paste these files into df_osx/data/art. Overwrite
4. Go to phoebus/data/init and copy the contents. Paste these files into df_osx/data/init. Overwrite
Done, go play. Check back for the Macnewbie pack sometime this week.
Post by: Badger Storm on October 27, 2014, 03:24:25 pm
That would explain why the .bat files weren't showing up! Following those directions seems to have worked. Thank you so, so much, Chimerat and fricy <3
EDIT: There still seem to be a few kinks left. The animals' sprites won't show up, and the dwarves are shown by something that is weird, ugly, and definitely not Phoebus. I noticed that not all the graphics files in vanilla asked if I wanted to overwrite them - perhaps there are extra files left over that I need to ditch? I know those ugly dwarf sprites are from vanilla, but I think I deleted the file with 'em and they're still showing up. I'm including a screenshot.
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/Evanji/Screenshot2014-10-27at50008PM.png)
If you want to take it to PMs or even Skype that's fine, because I feel bad for clogging up the thread with my incompetence.
Post by: dwarf_reform on October 27, 2014, 04:37:01 pm
Also, it seems like true DF fans aren't the type of imbeciles to bear their teeth and think less of someone based on what type of technology they use :) You use what you like best! (or what cruel fate and finance has forced upon you, in my case)
Give us stepladders and emotional dwarves or give us death!
Post by: Badger Storm on October 27, 2014, 05:04:45 pm
Post by: fricy on October 27, 2014, 05:08:58 pm
EDIT: There still seem to be a few kinks left. The animals' sprites won't show up, and the dwarves are shown by something that is weird, ugly, and definitely not Phoebus. I noticed that not all the graphics files in vanilla asked if I wanted to overwrite them - perhaps there are extra files left over that I need to ditch? I know those ugly dwarf sprites are from vanilla, but I think I deleted the file with 'em and they're still showing up. I'm including a screenshot.If you generated a world previously with ascii you need to update the saves too:
copy the raws (graphics and objects) to data/save/regionx/raw
Post by: Gukag on October 27, 2014, 05:09:32 pm
Plus add stepladder to entity_default.
https://github.com/fricy/Phoebus/releases
I literally just created a world with this version installed, and it seems to be working so far.
Post by: Badger Storm on October 27, 2014, 05:44:07 pm
Thank you to everyone for fielding my questions.
Post by: Phoebus on October 29, 2014, 12:20:36 am
Updated to Dwarf Fortress 0.40.14.
Post by: Phoebus on October 29, 2014, 12:22:26 am
Post by: Chimerat on October 29, 2014, 06:13:56 am
*Updated* 0.40.14v00
Updated to Dwarf Fortress 0.40.14.
Twilight would say it better than me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpgy21r_dRE), but YES! :D
Post by: Kuikka on October 29, 2014, 08:27:16 am
Post by: TheHossofMoss on October 30, 2014, 09:06:46 am
Sorry for the slowness. :(
You have always updated stuff very quickly. This random "slow" update should not change anybody's opinion of you!
Post by: Phoebus on November 06, 2014, 01:16:17 am
Updated to Dwarf Fortress 0.40.15.
(No RAW Changes)
Post by: Phoebus on November 06, 2014, 01:21:11 am
Post by: King Mir on November 12, 2014, 08:18:20 pm
Post by: Phoebus on November 13, 2014, 12:45:27 pm
Updated to Dwarf Fortress 0.40.16.
(No RAW Changes)
Post by: Badger Storm on November 14, 2014, 08:02:51 am
Post by: ptb_ptb on November 14, 2014, 08:30:18 am
Is this up for OSX yet? If not, when can I expect such?As there are no raw changes, can't you just use the 0.40.15 one?
Post by: fricy on November 14, 2014, 08:46:06 am
Is this up for OSX yet? If not, when can I expect such?You can extract 40.16 into Macnewbie next to the existing 'Dwarf Fortress' folder, copy you save into 40.16, and the launcher will detect it and prompt which version you want to play with. Since there are no changes to the the raws or the keybinds you can install any settings you like. I'll post a layout for Therapist as soon as possible.
Just keep a backup of your saves from 40.15, without backing up once you make a save there's no going back.
Post by: Badger Storm on November 14, 2014, 03:32:13 pm
Post by: TheHossofMoss on November 18, 2014, 03:59:51 pm
Which one of these do I need to use so that the music still plays? I play the pre-installed package and it has my music disabled.
Post by: Phoebus on November 18, 2014, 06:32:26 pm
Hey y'all,Open the file: DF_Phoebus_40_16v00\data\init\init.txt
Which one of these do I need to use so that the music still plays? I play the pre-installed package and it has my music disabled.
Edit [SOUND:NO] to [SOUND:YES], save and restart DF.
You'll also need to do that again after you run the init_updater.
Post by: Badger Storm on November 19, 2014, 02:44:09 pm
Post by: TheHossofMoss on November 19, 2014, 03:16:45 pm
Hey y'all,Open the file: DF_Phoebus_40_16v00\data\init\init.txt
Which one of these do I need to use so that the music still plays? I play the pre-installed package and it has my music disabled.
Edit [SOUND:NO] to [SOUND:YES], save and restart DF.
You'll also need to do that again after you run the init_updater.
Hey thank you. What do I need to do again? Save and restart DF after I use the init_updater?
<EDIT> Nevermind! I figured it out. Thanks for your help!!!
Post by: Phoebus on November 19, 2014, 11:13:18 pm
When can we expect 40.16 for OSX? I don't mean to rush you.Never, sorry. I don't have a Mac. I can't properly test an OSX package. I can't know if I'm uploading a broken package. I wouldn't know how to fix it if I knew it was broken. It's kind of pointless.
Did you try downloading the smaller, not pre-installed, package and install it on the vanilla Mac release?
<EDIT> Nevermind! I figured it out. Thanks for your help!!!You're welcome! :)
Post by: Phoebus on November 19, 2014, 11:24:43 pm
Updated to Dwarf Fortress 0.40.17.
(No RAW changes)
Post by: Badger Storm on November 20, 2014, 02:46:16 pm
Post by: Phoebus on November 20, 2014, 07:54:30 pm
Updated to Dwarf Fortress 0.40.18.
(No RAW changes)
Post by: Archereon on November 28, 2014, 07:33:02 pm
Post by: LeoCean on November 29, 2014, 04:33:36 pm
Post by: Phoebus on November 30, 2014, 03:18:12 pm
Updated to Dwarf Fortress 0.40.19.
Post by: Phoebus on November 30, 2014, 03:23:49 pm
Edit: DFFD is back up. The latest version is now available on both DFFD and MediaFire.
As for the reason it took me so long to do this update? I downloaded 0.40.19 the day it was released, then I got distracted by a squirrel, or a tree falling on my house, or something, and completely forgot that I had to update the graphic pack. I blame the elves.
Post by: Badger Storm on November 30, 2014, 08:03:10 pm
EDIT: Tried to paste in the regular phoebus inits, and when I got "Not found: data/art/Phoebus_16x16.png" and then it immediately crashes before the game even starts. What's going on?
EDIT:EDIT: Seem to have the graphics working fine, but I haven't got the Phoebus font. It was not letting me put the Phoebus font file in because it was "in use" for whatever reason, but when I did get it in, it just made this real small, ugly font.
I think I might just want to re-install both the game and the graphics entirely,
Post by: Phoebus on November 30, 2014, 08:49:29 pm
The 40.19 Phoebus /data/init folder has two sub folders, plain "phoebus" and "phoebus nott". Which one should I copy/paste into the df_osx files?The difference between the two subfolders is "phoebus nott" has TrueType disabled.
EDIT: Tried to paste in the regular phoebus inits, and when I got "Not found: data/art/Phoebus_16x16.png" and then it immediately crashes before the game even starts. What's going on?
EDIT:EDIT: Seem to have the graphics working fine, but I haven't got the Phoebus font. It was not letting me put the Phoebus font file in because it was "in use" for whatever reason, but when I did get it in, it just made this real small, ugly font.
I think I might just want to re-install both the game and the graphics entirely,
Maybe OSX doesn't like the truetype font, you might want to try the "nott" inits.
Post by: se5a on December 09, 2014, 03:08:36 pm
Post by: dwarf_reform on December 18, 2014, 01:29:47 am
Post by: Phoebus on December 18, 2014, 11:55:32 pm
Updated to Dwarf Fortress 0.40.20.
(No RAW changes)
Post by: se5a on December 19, 2014, 08:05:58 am
There is a viewable legend in-game in the '?' Help screen that should show some helpful tiles + descriptions.. Hope it helps (at least a little, haha..)
pretty sure that only has the normal view tiles, not any of the travel map tiles. I could be wrong though, i'll double check when I retire this fort thats currently under siege.
Post by: Badger Storm on December 19, 2014, 02:47:32 pm
Post by: LeoCean on December 19, 2014, 05:01:28 pm
I've been working on modding some creatures. Is there any way to make little graphics for them?
Do you mean you want Phoebus to make you those graphics or do you mean just giving them graphics like most of the other creatures have? If so it isn't that hard, though I don't think I could explain it atm.
For one of the creatures I made I just did this, it is based off of the cave dragoon. That's all that is required to give it a image.
[CREATURE_GRAPHICS:DRAGOON] <-- It's name in raw\objects _creature.txt
[DEFAULT:MAGNUT_NU:2:6:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[CHILD:MAGNUT_NU:3:6:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[TRAINED_HUNTER:MAGNUT_NU:2:6:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[TRAINED_WAR:MAGNUT_NU:2:6:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
And that is the dragon looking image/tile in the \raw\graphics\magnut folder of spacefox/ phoebus.
Post by: Phoebus on December 19, 2014, 07:37:06 pm
Updated to Dwarf Fortress 0.40.21.
(No RAW changes)
Post by: MaximumZero on December 19, 2014, 08:07:21 pm
Post by: Badger Storm on December 20, 2014, 04:39:39 pm
I've been working on modding some creatures. Is there any way to make little graphics for them?
Do you mean you want Phoebus to make you those graphics or do you mean just giving them graphics like most of the other creatures have? If so it isn't that hard, though I don't think I could explain it atm.
For one of the creatures I made I just did this, it is based off of the cave dragoon. That's all that is required to give it a image.
[CREATURE_GRAPHICS:DRAGOON] <-- It's name in raw\objects _creature.txt
[DEFAULT:MAGNUT_NU:2:6:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[CHILD:MAGNUT_NU:3:6:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[TRAINED_HUNTER:MAGNUT_NU:2:6:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[TRAINED_WAR:MAGNUT_NU:2:6:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
And that is the dragon looking image/tile in the \raw\graphics\magnut folder of spacefox/ phoebus.
I see that. So if I wanted to use the wolf image for my dire wolf (hey, it's more similar than moose and deer), I'd go to the creature graphics raws in the phoebus folder, type in "WOLF, DIRE" under creature graphics, and then just copy/paste the settings for wolf into that?
I don't expect Phoebus to make little sprites for me (heaven knows he must be busy enough), but I do want to know if it would be possible to make custom sprites to add into Phoebus.
Post by: CLA on December 20, 2014, 05:05:50 pm
So if I wanted to use the wolf image for my dire wolf (hey, it's more similar than moose and deer), I'd go to the creature graphics raws in the phoebus folder, type in "WOLF, DIRE" under creature graphics, and then just copy/paste the settings for wolf into that?
Basically, yes. You make sure your custom creature exists (is in the raws, you have a new world generated, etc), and then make a new entry in the creature graphic files with your creature name and point it to the same position the wolf has on phoebus' graphic set. Or you add your own little sprites with a corresponding text file.
Here's a more detailed documentation, by the way:
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Graphic_set
Post by: Badger Storm on December 20, 2014, 05:50:42 pm
Post by: starburst98 on December 21, 2014, 08:54:11 am
Post by: Phoebus on December 21, 2014, 12:36:31 pm
where can i get the old 34.11v01 ? all the "old version" links have only up to 34.11v00.I've just uploaded 0.34.11v01 on the MediaFire 0.34 archive (http://www.mediafire.com/?6a465xis5it22). Enjoy.
Post by: Centigrade on December 22, 2014, 03:32:07 am
Post by: PeridexisErrant on December 22, 2014, 04:08:14 am
where can i get the old 34.11v01 ? all the "old version" links have only up to 34.11v00.I've just uploaded 0.34.11v01 on the MediaFire 0.34 archive (http://www.mediafire.com/?6a465xis5it22). Enjoy.
Yes. There are no raw changes since 40.19, so it's compatible.
Post by: Phoebus on December 24, 2014, 08:26:33 am
Updated to Dwarf Fortress 0.40.22.
(No RAW changes)
Post by: Shonai_Dweller on December 24, 2014, 06:57:07 pm
Post by: Phoebus on December 25, 2014, 12:23:03 am
Updated to Dwarf Fortress 0.40.23.
Post by: Shonai_Dweller on December 25, 2014, 04:29:49 am
Post by: Phoebus on January 07, 2015, 11:29:51 pm
Updated to Dwarf Fortress 0.40.24.
Post by: BuGGaTon on January 08, 2015, 11:37:25 am
Post by: TheHossofMoss on January 09, 2015, 03:16:43 pm
Post by: Badger Storm on January 10, 2015, 01:07:50 pm
This is a fresh install, no DFHack or anything, and without the graphics this doesn't happen. It happens whether or not I use the phoebus_nott version. What's going on here?
EDIT: And for once I haven't modded a single thing. I also tried to install Phoebus on a fresh second installation, and the exact same thing happened. The intro movie is off in d_init. I seriously cannot think of anything that could be causing this. The last time I "resolved" this by just using the MacNewbie pack, but 40.23 turned out to have so many bugs that it was intolerable, and Mantis was no help at all. I'm starting to despair of ever moving past 40.19.
Post by: Phoebus on January 10, 2015, 04:24:37 pm
I have installed the graphics into 40.24 just as the instructions say, yet when I attempt to gen a new world, this white rectangle comes up and the game freezes completely. Said rectangle covers everything on the screen underneath it.I can't even.
This is a fresh install, no DFHack or anything, and without the graphics this doesn't happen. It happens whether or not I use the phoebus_nott version. What's going on here?
EDIT: And for once I haven't modded a single thing. I also tried to install Phoebus on a fresh second installation, and the exact same thing happened. The intro movie is off in d_init. I seriously cannot think of anything that could be causing this. The last time I "resolved" this by just using the MacNewbie pack, but 40.23 turned out to have so many bugs that it was intolerable, and Mantis was no help at all. I'm starting to despair of ever moving past 40.19.
This kind of situation is the reason why I'm not releasing an OSX version. I can't test the OSX release, or reproduce and fix OSX specific problems.
I wish I could help. Sorry. :(
Edit: I don't even have a clue what could be the cause of the problem. I'd have to debug the hard way, by installing every modded file, one by one, on a fresh install, and test the game after installing each and every single file, to find which file(s) cause the crash. Then try add/remove every modification in the file(s), one by one, until I find which line(s) cause the crash. Then try to guess why that file/line makes the game crash. Fun times.
Post by: lethosor on January 10, 2015, 05:32:50 pm
I have installed the graphics into 40.24 just as the instructions say, yet when I attempt to gen a new world, this white rectangle comes up and the game freezes completely. Said rectangle covers everything on the screen underneath it.Is there anything in errorlog.txt? The "white box" is usually a DF error message - see this report (http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=8721). Typically problems like this are due to faulty raws or a faulty installation (or both).
This is a fresh install, no DFHack or anything, and without the graphics this doesn't happen. It happens whether or not I use the phoebus_nott version. What's going on here?
EDIT: And for once I haven't modded a single thing. I also tried to install Phoebus on a fresh second installation, and the exact same thing happened. The intro movie is off in d_init. I seriously cannot think of anything that could be causing this. The last time I "resolved" this by just using the MacNewbie pack, but 40.23 turned out to have so many bugs that it was intolerable, and Mantis was no help at all. I'm starting to despair of ever moving past 40.19.
I can't even.You could try following those installation instructions on a fresh copy of DF (I'm assuming this is easier for you than me, since you already have a copy of Phoebus :) ) and see if the issue reproduces for you. If not, it's probably an installation problem. I can try to reproduce it as well, although I'm not sure how soon I'll be able to.
This kind of situation is the reason why I'm not releasing an OSX version. I can't test the OSX release, or reproduce and fix OSX specific problems.
I wish I could help. Sorry. :(
Post by: Badger Storm on January 10, 2015, 05:44:43 pm
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undefined local plant material set to default: ROOT_MUCK SEED
undefined local plant material set to default: TUBER_BLOATED SEED
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature FLESH_BALL
undefined local creature material set to default: FLESH_BALL MUSCLE
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature POND_GRABBER
undefined local creature material set to default: POND_GRABBER CLAW
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature CAVE_FLOATER
undefined local creature material set to default: CAVE_FLOATER LEATHER
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature CAVE_BLOB
undefined local creature material set to default: CAVE_BLOB LEATHER
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature WAMBLER_FLUFFY
undefined local creature material set to default: WAMBLER_FLUFFY TALLOW
undefined local creature material set to default: WAMBLER_FLUFFY LEATHER
undefined local creature material set to default: WAMBLER_FLUFFY FAT
undefined local creature material set to default: WAMBLER_FLUFFY HAIR
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature MUSSEL
undefined local creature material set to default: MUSSEL TALLOW
undefined local creature material set to default: MUSSEL LEATHER
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature OYSTER
undefined local creature material set to default: OYSTER TALLOW
undefined local creature material set to default: OYSTER LEATHER
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature PANGOLIN
undefined local creature material set to default: PANGOLIN SKIN
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature PANGOLIN_MAN
undefined local creature material set to default: PANGOLIN_MAN SKIN
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature GIANT_PANGOLIN
undefined local creature material set to default: GIANT_PANGOLIN SKIN
*** Error(s) found in the file "data/save/region1/raw/objects/creature_riverlakepool_new.txt"
BEAVER:Unrecognized Creature Token: ANY_TEMPERATE_SWAMP
BEAVER_MAN:Unrecognized Creature Token: ANY_TEMPERATE_SWAMP
GIANT_BEAVER:Unrecognized Creature Token: ANY_TEMPERATE_SWAMP
*** Error(s) found in the file "data/save/region1/raw/objects/creature_standard.txt"
AQUILOUP:Unrecognized Creature Caste Body Gloss Token: TALON
AQUILOUP:Attack SCRATCH seems to have correct format but could not find proper BPs in any caste, so not added
undefined local plant material set to default: ROOT_MUCK SEED
undefined local plant material set to default: TUBER_BLOATED SEED
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature FLESH_BALL
undefined local creature material set to default: FLESH_BALL MUSCLE
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature POND_GRABBER
undefined local creature material set to default: POND_GRABBER CLAW
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature CAVE_FLOATER
undefined local creature material set to default: CAVE_FLOATER LEATHER
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature CAVE_BLOB
undefined local creature material set to default: CAVE_BLOB LEATHER
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature WAMBLER_FLUFFY
undefined local creature material set to default: WAMBLER_FLUFFY TALLOW
undefined local creature material set to default: WAMBLER_FLUFFY LEATHER
undefined local creature material set to default: WAMBLER_FLUFFY FAT
undefined local creature material set to default: WAMBLER_FLUFFY HAIR
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature MUSSEL
undefined local creature material set to default: MUSSEL TALLOW
undefined local creature material set to default: MUSSEL LEATHER
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature OYSTER
undefined local creature material set to default: OYSTER TALLOW
undefined local creature material set to default: OYSTER LEATHER
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature AQUILOUP
undefined local creature material set to default: AQUILOUP NAIL
undefined local creature material set to default: AQUILOUP FEATHER
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature FAIRY_DRAGON
undefined local creature material set to default: FAIRY_DRAGON CHITIN
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature PANGOLIN
undefined local creature material set to default: PANGOLIN SKIN
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature PANGOLIN_MAN
undefined local creature material set to default: PANGOLIN_MAN SKIN
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature GIANT_PANGOLIN
undefined local creature material set to default: GIANT_PANGOLIN SKIN
*** Error(s) found in the file "data/save/region1/raw/objects/creature_riverlakepool_new.txt"
BEAVER:Unrecognized Creature Token: ANY_TEMPERATE_SWAMP
BEAVER_MAN:Unrecognized Creature Token: ANY_TEMPERATE_SWAMP
GIANT_BEAVER:Unrecognized Creature Token: ANY_TEMPERATE_SWAMP
*** Error(s) found in the file "data/save/region1/raw/objects/creature_standard.txt"
AQUILOUP:Unrecognized Creature Caste Body Gloss Token: TALON
AQUILOUP:Attack SCRATCH seems to have correct format but could not find proper BPs in any caste, so not added
undefined local plant material set to default: ROOT_MUCK SEED
undefined local plant material set to default: TUBER_BLOATED SEED
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature FLESH_BALL
undefined local creature material set to default: FLESH_BALL MUSCLE
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature POND_GRABBER
undefined local creature material set to default: POND_GRABBER CLAW
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature CAVE_FLOATER
undefined local creature material set to default: CAVE_FLOATER LEATHER
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature CAVE_BLOB
undefined local creature material set to default: CAVE_BLOB LEATHER
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature WAMBLER_FLUFFY
undefined local creature material set to default: WAMBLER_FLUFFY TALLOW
undefined local creature material set to default: WAMBLER_FLUFFY LEATHER
undefined local creature material set to default: WAMBLER_FLUFFY FAT
undefined local creature material set to default: WAMBLER_FLUFFY HAIR
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature MUSSEL
undefined local creature material set to default: MUSSEL TALLOW
undefined local creature material set to default: MUSSEL LEATHER
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature OYSTER
undefined local creature material set to default: OYSTER TALLOW
undefined local creature material set to default: OYSTER LEATHER
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature AQUILOUP
undefined local creature material set to default: AQUILOUP NAIL
undefined local creature material set to default: AQUILOUP FEATHER
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature FAIRY_DRAGON
undefined local creature material set to default: FAIRY_DRAGON CHITIN
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature PANGOLIN
undefined local creature material set to default: PANGOLIN SKIN
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature PANGOLIN_MAN
undefined local creature material set to default: PANGOLIN_MAN SKIN
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature GIANT_PANGOLIN
undefined local creature material set to default: GIANT_PANGOLIN SKIN
*** Error(s) found in the file "data/save/region3/raw/objects/creature_standard.txt"
AQUILOUP:Unrecognized Creature Caste Body Gloss Token: TALON
AQUILOUP:Attack SCRATCH seems to have correct format but could not find proper BPs in any caste, so not added
*** Error(s) found in the file "data/save/region3/raw/objects/creature_tropical_new.txt"
BONGO:Attack HGORE seems to have correct format but could not find proper BPs in any caste, so not added
BONGO:Unrecognized Creature Token: [SET_TL_GROUP
BONGO Color Mod Ending With (CHESTNUT,1) Was Not Used
undefined local plant material set to default: ROOT_MUCK SEED
undefined local plant material set to default: TUBER_BLOATED SEED
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature FLESH_BALL
undefined local creature material set to default: FLESH_BALL MUSCLE
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature POND_GRABBER
undefined local creature material set to default: POND_GRABBER CLAW
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature CAVE_FLOATER
undefined local creature material set to default: CAVE_FLOATER LEATHER
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature CAVE_BLOB
undefined local creature material set to default: CAVE_BLOB LEATHER
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature WAMBLER_FLUFFY
undefined local creature material set to default: WAMBLER_FLUFFY TALLOW
undefined local creature material set to default: WAMBLER_FLUFFY LEATHER
undefined local creature material set to default: WAMBLER_FLUFFY FAT
undefined local creature material set to default: WAMBLER_FLUFFY HAIR
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature MUSSEL
undefined local creature material set to default: MUSSEL TALLOW
undefined local creature material set to default: MUSSEL LEATHER
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature OYSTER
undefined local creature material set to default: OYSTER TALLOW
undefined local creature material set to default: OYSTER LEATHER
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature AQUILOUP
undefined local creature material set to default: AQUILOUP NAIL
undefined local creature material set to default: AQUILOUP FEATHER
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature FAIRY_DRAGON
undefined local creature material set to default: FAIRY_DRAGON CHITIN
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature PANGOLIN
undefined local creature material set to default: PANGOLIN SKIN
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature PANGOLIN_MAN
undefined local creature material set to default: PANGOLIN_MAN SKIN
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature GIANT_PANGOLIN
undefined local creature material set to default: GIANT_PANGOLIN SKIN
*** Error(s) found in the file "raw/objects/creature_standard.txt"
AQUILOUP:Unrecognized Creature Caste Body Gloss Token: TALON
AQUILOUP:Attack SCRATCH seems to have correct format but could not find proper BPs in any caste, so not added
*** Error(s) found in the file "raw/objects/creature_tropical_new.txt"
BONGO:Attack HGORE seems to have correct format but could not find proper BPs in any caste, so not added
BONGO:Unrecognized Creature Token: [SET_TL_GROUP
BONGO Color Mod Ending With (STRIPES_CHESTNUT_WHITE,1) Was Not Used
undefined local plant material set to default: ROOT_MUCK SEED
undefined local plant material set to default: TUBER_BLOATED SEED
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature FLESH_BALL
undefined local creature material set to default: FLESH_BALL MUSCLE
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature POND_GRABBER
undefined local creature material set to default: POND_GRABBER CLAW
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature CAVE_FLOATER
undefined local creature material set to default: CAVE_FLOATER LEATHER
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature CAVE_BLOB
undefined local creature material set to default: CAVE_BLOB LEATHER
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature WAMBLER_FLUFFY
undefined local creature material set to default: WAMBLER_FLUFFY TALLOW
undefined local creature material set to default: WAMBLER_FLUFFY LEATHER
undefined local creature material set to default: WAMBLER_FLUFFY FAT
undefined local creature material set to default: WAMBLER_FLUFFY HAIR
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature MUSSEL
undefined local creature material set to default: MUSSEL TALLOW
undefined local creature material set to default: MUSSEL LEATHER
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature OYSTER
undefined local creature material set to default: OYSTER TALLOW
undefined local creature material set to default: OYSTER LEATHER
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature AQUILOUP
undefined local creature material set to default: AQUILOUP NAIL
undefined local creature material set to default: AQUILOUP FEATHER
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature FAIRY_DRAGON
undefined local creature material set to default: FAIRY_DRAGON CHITIN
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature PANGOLIN
undefined local creature material set to default: PANGOLIN SKIN
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature PANGOLIN_MAN
undefined local creature material set to default: PANGOLIN_MAN SKIN
*** Error(s) finalizing the creature GIANT_PANGOLIN
undefined local creature material set to default: GIANT_PANGOLIN SKIN
And honestly I'm not sure what to do about those. I know that I added the temperate swamp biome to the beavers, because lake and river creatures for some reason only ever spawn once, at first embark. Copy/paste fresh raws from the wiki for the ?
Speaking of copying/pasting raws, copying the raws from my 40.19 version seems to have fixed it for now. Are there any significant differences over the versions?
Considering that MacNewbie could open it just fine, it makes me think the problem is in the installation.
Post by: lethosor on January 10, 2015, 06:25:30 pm
Edit: For reference, I copied all of the files/folders in these folders in the package into the corresponding folders in the DF folder, overwriting when/if necessary (I did this from the command line without an overwrite confirmation enabled, so I don't know if overwriting anything is necessary):
* raw/graphics
* raw/objects
* data/art
* data/init/phoebus -> data/init (in other words, copy everything from package/data/init/phoebus to DF/data/init)
Post by: Badger Storm on January 10, 2015, 07:14:27 pm
I don't think I really need to have a world genned for me, seeing as a simple copy-paste of older raws appears to have solved the problem. Though stderr.txt says something about leaking pools and switching from QuickDraw to Quartz. Is it really necessary to download Quartz, or is there another workaround?
It's good to have a fix for the short term, but ideally I'd like to learn to prevent it from happening at all and save all of us the headache. (On that note, bless you and your patience)
Post by: lethosor on January 10, 2015, 07:24:15 pm
At any rate, here (http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=10418) is what I put together. I managed to generate and load a world successfully with this, which I assume means it's working properly. It uses truetype by default - I don't know if that matters to you, but you can turn it off in init.txt if you like.
Post by: Badger Storm on January 10, 2015, 08:26:56 pm
Thank you so, so much for bearing with me. Is there any way I can compensate you?
Post by: Virtual Russian on February 09, 2015, 05:28:51 pm
Edit: I meant version .23
Post by: Uggh on February 15, 2015, 05:45:43 am
Post by: PeridexisErrant on February 15, 2015, 05:56:07 am
Did I miss something when you changed the appearance of engravings (using PyLNP 40.24r3)? Now they are not curly double lines but appear to symbolize the engraved pictures which is really nice. HOwever, is it possible to switch back and forth between the two modes? While it is really a fine idea, sometimes it's distracting and I would like to get a simpler view.
THis is an init setting; "ENGRAVINGS_START_OBSCURED". You can change it in the init file, or toggle in-game with d-v.
Post by: Uggh on February 15, 2015, 06:31:13 am
Probably yes, I wonder what else I might have missed.
Post by: palu on February 17, 2015, 03:30:24 pm
Post by: Getdat40 on February 23, 2015, 01:14:14 pm
Post by: MonkeyHead on March 29, 2015, 04:13:44 pm
Spoiler: Black and white flowers... (click to show/hide)
There is something about the black tiles that does not seem right. Is something wrong with my set up that is causing the lack of colour? For reference, they are meadowsweet flowers, and I have dug in the RAW's for that flower, but have no idea which values I should change to experiment with the colour display.
Post by: LeoCean on March 31, 2015, 03:53:16 am
Post by: MonkeyHead on March 31, 2015, 04:10:54 am
Did you change the color scheme by any chance? It shouldn't look like that. It'd be best to redownload it to fix it or reinstall it if you are using the starter packs (just the phoebus part).
Thanks for the advice, but...
Did not change the colour scheme. Tried re-downloading the graphics pack and reinstalling it over the file structure in the starter packs, to no avail. This is a literally out of the box problem with either the starter pack or the tileset, and I cant get my head around it. going to try a download of DF without the starter pack in a second and see if I get a difference.
EDIT: Yeah, no difference. A bit of looking around with "k" shows that all other plants, leaves and flowers are displayed correctly - it is only the meadowsweet flowers that are doing the black tile thing. This is not that big a problem, other than the few weeks in summer season where they are literally everywhere.
Post by: LeoCean on March 31, 2015, 05:30:30 pm
Post by: MonkeyHead on April 01, 2015, 05:48:02 am
Post by: LeoCean on April 01, 2015, 04:29:13 pm
Can you try adding [DISPLAY_COLOR:6:0:0] or something like that to the plant_grasses file in the area that meadowsweet is and delete the current colors it has or just replace the [] it has with # to comment them out. Or if you could upload your save file cause I don't really want to put much work into this....
Or changing the [GRASS_COLORS:2:0:1:2:0:0:6:0:1:6:0:0] to something like [GRASS_COLORS:2:1:2:1:2:1:6:1:6:1:6:1] it doesn't really matter. The thing should have color it makes no sense, if none of what I just suggest works, then only way I could figure it out is with a save file to easily test solutions. I could just easily open up df and embark in a marsh but I'd have to wait till summer and I'm lazzyyyy while waiting for the next version.
Post by: MonkeyHead on April 02, 2015, 05:37:32 am
Post by: itblobboy on May 11, 2015, 05:10:25 pm
I've stubbornly played with the standard texture for the longest time, and it was never a problem with understanding the symbols. However, it did become boring on the eyes after these past years. I spent a while today looking for DF texture packs that are updated and pleasant to look at (I decided to take the liberty to since I had to update to 24 anyway), and the fact that this has a preinstalled DF with texture pack was pretty awesome to see.
I couldn't bring myself to not express my appreciation for this, so know I do!
Sorry if this is considered an unappreciated bump.
Post by: HammerHand on May 21, 2015, 07:23:28 am
So, are flowers meant to look like this:Spoiler: Black and white flowers... (click to show/hide)
There is something about the black tiles that does not seem right. Is something wrong with my set up that is causing the lack of colour? For reference, they are meadowsweet flowers, and I have dug in the RAW's for that flower, but have no idea which values I should change to experiment with the colour display.
I get this, too, but it appears to be specific types of flowers? Or maybe I only have one kind of flower on my current embark.
Post by: Pvt. Pirate on September 09, 2015, 04:45:44 am
but sadly it doesnt work well with twbt on a 5:4 screen, as it doesnt allow text to stay the font that i selected in the LNP starter.
also the mousecontrol dfhack doesnt work with this.
great, now it seems i can't get it back to spacefox with default menu text.
i hope overriding my gamefolder with the freshly unpacked LNP folder will both preserve my savegames and i only have to do all the settings again.
Post by: Aydjile on November 30, 2015, 04:17:47 pm
Post by: PeridexisErrant on November 30, 2015, 06:49:13 pm
dear phoebus, the patch is behind the corner. are you gonna be ready for it? shall we await for you to modify it?
There's also Doren's Phoebus graphics (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=152698), and Fricy's graphics collection (https://github.com/fricy/Phoebus) if something goes wrong.
Post by: Max™ on November 30, 2015, 07:26:49 pm
Post by: Shonai_Dweller on December 01, 2015, 10:06:30 am
Plus GemSet which is a natively HD and full TWBT set with an emphasis on being crisp and legible.So...kind of useless really until DfHack catches up with the new release...
;)
Post by: Max™ on December 01, 2015, 10:11:56 am
Post by: Doren on December 02, 2015, 01:42:39 pm
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11330
It is just a plain merge of older Phoebus with new DF release.
No new features whatsoever. Just sharing what i compiled for myself
Post by: Moonshadow101 on December 02, 2015, 01:59:39 pm
Post by: SirFinbar on December 02, 2015, 02:47:49 pm
Post by: Button on December 02, 2015, 02:56:47 pm
Post by: Doren on December 02, 2015, 03:46:53 pm
How're the quire/scroll/book graphics in Doren's merge?
I gave book binding 8th tile (the one used for books)
Everything else was changed to /'s. Because i have no idea what tiles would look better for them.
Also it seems i messed up the book case. Tile 35 should work better for that
Post by: PeridexisErrant on December 02, 2015, 06:41:53 pm
Phoebus 0.42.01
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11330
It is just a plain merge of older Phoebus with new DF release.
No new features whatsoever. Just sharing what i compiled for myself
Legend! Thanks Doren :D
Post by: Chimerat on December 03, 2015, 06:16:17 pm
Phoebus 0.42.01Sweet. Thanks! :D
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11330
It is just a plain merge of older Phoebus with new DF release.
No new features whatsoever. Just sharing what i compiled for myself
Post by: Gapmeister on December 03, 2015, 07:38:51 pm
Phoebus 0.42.01
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11330
It is just a plain merge of older Phoebus with new DF release.
No new features whatsoever. Just sharing what i compiled for myself
Thanks for this. I've gone ahead and done the same for the Linux version:
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11354
Post by: Doren on December 05, 2015, 05:03:11 am
upd: whoops,sorry, they are listed in the default graphics_example file already
Post by: dennislp3 on December 05, 2015, 03:58:03 pm
This does not add any new graphics I simply assigned what I thought were fitting, already existing, textures to the new professions. it only covers Humans, Dwarves, and Goblins
Just unzip this to your raw/graphics folder
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vao9t7vahfslk2f/graphics.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/vao9t7vahfslk2f/graphics.zip?dl=0)
(I will host it at DFFD when i get my activation email from them...which I have been waiting an hour for...)
Post by: Button on December 06, 2015, 02:02:02 am
Post by: Doren on December 06, 2015, 02:51:46 am
(http://i.imgur.com/cV4q8C6.png)
Btw, at least as of the version included in the Windows Lazy Newb Pack, I think you missed a few of the new words with diacritic'd vowels. There was an elf whose name started with a minecart in my legends, and another who had a spider in the middle of their name. :DYep theres a couple of new words at the end of language_ files and i totally missed it.
Post by: PeridexisErrant on December 06, 2015, 06:37:50 am
What do you think, would Phoebus mind if we actually added new profesions ourselves?
Not at all - Fricy has been maintaining a fork for ages, and Phoebus hasn't logged in since May this year.
I'd love for community updates to become common, especially those faithful to the style.
Post by: FortunaDraken on December 06, 2015, 06:44:33 am
Post by: Doren on December 06, 2015, 06:55:36 am
Would some kind soul upload a version/send me a link to a version that can be unpacked onto an existing 42.02 game? Already started a new fort and already so tired of the ASCII @_@ How does one update a save game's graphics without PyLNP...cry new versions.
There's df_savegame_updater.bat inside the root folder of Phoebus DF that updates your save's raws.
Only thing you need to do is copy your saves into respective folder
Post by: Aydjile on December 06, 2015, 07:43:56 am
What do you think, would Phoebus mind if we actually added new profesions ourselves?
i think they are beatifull. and very much cannon to phoebus tileset. go for it!
and i hope everything okay with him. why he didn't logged it for long time?
Post by: Chimerat on December 06, 2015, 07:54:55 am
What do you think, would Phoebus mind if we actually added new profesions ourselves?I can't speak for anyone else, but those are beautiful.
(http://i.imgur.com/cV4q8C6.png)
If you're uncertain, you could always release it as a clearly marked modified tileset (like one that's out there with "Text Will be Text".
Post by: FortunaDraken on December 06, 2015, 06:27:05 pm
That's good to know, thank-you c: What files though should be copied into a 42.02 folder? Cause the upload a page or so back also has the base game in it of 42.01 and I only want the graphics...Would some kind soul upload a version/send me a link to a version that can be unpacked onto an existing 42.02 game? Already started a new fort and already so tired of the ASCII @_@ How does one update a save game's graphics without PyLNP...cry new versions.
There's df_savegame_updater.bat inside the root folder of Phoebus DF that updates your save's raws.
Only thing you need to do is copy your saves into respective folder
Post by: Kijiro on December 07, 2015, 03:34:42 pm
That's good to know, thank-you c: What files though should be copied into a 42.02 folder? Cause the upload a page or so back also has the base game in it of 42.01 and I only want the graphics...Would some kind soul upload a version/send me a link to a version that can be unpacked onto an existing 42.02 game? Already started a new fort and already so tired of the ASCII @_@ How does one update a save game's graphics without PyLNP...cry new versions.
There's df_savegame_updater.bat inside the root folder of Phoebus DF that updates your save's raws.
Only thing you need to do is copy your saves into respective folder
BACK UP YOUR SAVE FILES before you do this. I ran the save file updater and it gave me an error about something being missing whenever I tried to load my saves. Maybe I did it wrong, but I took a save folder for a region that was generated with no graphics pack for 0.42.02. I copied the Pheobus files into the Dwarf Fortress folder and ran the updater (no_TT) .bat, then ran the save game update .bat. After that I couldn't run my save games.
Post by: Manzeenan on December 07, 2015, 07:26:11 pm
Post by: LeoCean on December 07, 2015, 08:23:26 pm
That's good to know, thank-you c: What files though should be copied into a 42.02 folder? Cause the upload a page or so back also has the base game in it of 42.01 and I only want the graphics...Would some kind soul upload a version/send me a link to a version that can be unpacked onto an existing 42.02 game? Already started a new fort and already so tired of the ASCII @_@ How does one update a save game's graphics without PyLNP...cry new versions.
There's df_savegame_updater.bat inside the root folder of Phoebus DF that updates your save's raws.
Only thing you need to do is copy your saves into respective folder
BACK UP YOUR SAVE FILES before you do this. I ran the save file updater and it gave me an error about something being missing whenever I tried to load my saves. Maybe I did it wrong, but I took a save folder for a region that was generated with no graphics pack for 0.42.02. I copied the Pheobus files into the Dwarf Fortress folder and ran the updater (no_TT) .bat, then ran the save game update .bat. After that I couldn't run my save games.
You know there's a graphics folder in your save folder that's the only thing that would be corrupted and pretty damn easy to fix.
Post by: PeridexisErrant on December 07, 2015, 08:23:45 pm
Sooo does someone have a 40.02 updated Phoebus' game?
Phoebus 0.42.01
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11330
It is just a plain merge of older Phoebus with new DF release.
No new features whatsoever. Just sharing what i compiled for myself
Thanks for this. I've gone ahead and done the same for the Linux version:
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11354
I went ahead and assigned the new professions with suitable graphics.
This does not add any new graphics I simply assigned what I thought were fitting, already existing, textures to the new professions. it only covers Humans, Dwarves, and Goblins
Just unzip this to your raw/graphics folder
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vao9t7vahfslk2f/graphics.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/vao9t7vahfslk2f/graphics.zip?dl=0)
(I will host it at DFFD when i get my activation email from them...which I have been waiting an hour for...)
Post by: HARD on December 08, 2015, 07:07:25 pm
Post by: Manzeenan on December 08, 2015, 08:36:37 pm
anyone got Phoebus compatible with 0.42.02?LNP has it
Post by: lethosor on December 08, 2015, 11:17:41 pm
Post by: PeridexisErrant on December 09, 2015, 12:01:06 am
Fricy also maintains the raws here: https://github.com/fricy/phoebus (note that I haven't checked to make sure they work with 0.42.02, though)
That's where I'm getting it now; it updated for 0.42.02 yesterday.
Post by: Evrett33 on December 11, 2015, 09:22:51 pm
Post by: Doren on December 12, 2015, 03:52:34 am
Heya. I've got V's and N's representing biomes (badlands and wetlands I think) on the world map with 40.24. Otherwise everything looks fine. I'm sure its a setting I've got wrong..any help
They look like v's and n's in any non-TWBT tileset.
Post by: Magganon on December 12, 2015, 06:05:02 am
Post by: Doren on December 12, 2015, 07:45:26 am
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11330
Post by: Evrett33 on December 12, 2015, 03:29:25 pm
Heya. I've got V's and N's representing biomes (badlands and wetlands I think) on the world map with 40.24. Otherwise everything looks fine. I'm sure its a setting I've got wrong..any help
They look like v's and n's in any non-TWBT tileset.
What is a "non-TWBT tileset" and what do I need to change to go back to the non letter icons. I've been using whatever comes with PELNP pack.
Post by: Chimerat on December 12, 2015, 03:54:43 pm
What is a "non-TWBT tileset" and what do I need to change to go back to the non letter icons. I've been using whatever comes with PELNP pack.I believe "TWBT" is "Text Will Be Text", a dfHack-based mod that does...something to the text in the game so it doesn't have odd characters in it.
Post by: barkalot on December 13, 2015, 06:18:33 pm
e: nvm http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=122968.msg6663118#msg6663118
Post by: Phoebus on December 13, 2015, 09:13:01 pm
Post by: DoomOnion on December 13, 2015, 09:19:59 pm
Hey, what's going on in here?Am I going insane again, or are you actually back? o.O
Post by: PeridexisErrant on December 13, 2015, 09:27:14 pm
Hey, what's going on in here?
You've been away for a while, but at least three people loved your graphics enough to make updates for them without you. Welcome back!
Post by: Phoebus on December 13, 2015, 09:41:06 pm
*scurries back under his rock*
Post by: Manzeenan on December 14, 2015, 12:11:04 am
Post by: Max™ on December 14, 2015, 12:34:06 am
Post by: Chimerat on December 14, 2015, 06:27:49 am
Hmm, hello everyone...*places some tasty, "thank you" treats around said rock*
*scurries back under his rock*
Post by: Aydjile on December 14, 2015, 08:08:44 am
Hey, what's going on in here?
yay! welcome back! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Evrett33 on December 14, 2015, 06:32:49 pm
Its unclear what these settings do and randomly trying different settings isnt getting me the results I want. Older gfx with working letters (and no V or N on the world map)
Post by: Button on December 14, 2015, 06:43:16 pm
Is there someone I can go to explain the difference between graphic font and font settings, TBWT and Standard and 2D, truetype or no truetype? I seem to be forced to make a choice between newer graphics (tiny hard to see chairs, non-spiderweb gems and bookcases on all the workshop everywhere) or older graphics that look better (IMHO) but bug out/have peices disapper and dont show gender or the apostrophe in a word like surrounding nicknames.
Its unclear what these settings do and randomly trying differnt settings isnt getting me the results I want. Older gfx with working letters (and no V or N on the world map)
TWBT ("Text Will Be Text") is a DFHack plugin that makes major changes to how graphics are displayed. DFHack is not ready for the current version yet, so TWBT cannot be used on the current version yet. Until DFHack and TWBT are ready, you cannot achieve the results you want.
Some graphics packs require TWBT to render properly. This is the cause of many of the glitches you're seeing when you try to use "older" graphics packs. The graphics packs which have been updated for the newest version do not require TWBT, but need to make some sacrifices in clarity as a consequence (e.g. V and N on the world map).
Please be patient. DFHack and TWBT, like all Dwarf Fortress utilities, are fan-made, fan-maintained, and fan-updated.
Post by: Phoebus on December 14, 2015, 08:14:34 pm
Post by: Chimerat on December 14, 2015, 09:10:04 pm
*Phoebus snatches the treats and replaces them with his precious Pouch of Secrets (http://www.mediafire.com/download/y9dkbn6n4yimy69/Phoebus%27+Pouch+of+Secrets.zip)**unable to resist the mix of PackRat and Canine natures, Chimerat snatches up the Pouch!*
Ooh, :o very pretty! :D
Post by: Manzeenan on December 14, 2015, 09:58:22 pm
Post by: Evrett33 on December 14, 2015, 11:55:53 pm
Is there someone I can go to explain the difference between graphic font and font settings, TBWT and Standard and 2D, truetype or no truetype? I seem to be forced to make a choice between newer graphics (tiny hard to see chairs, non-spiderweb gems and bookcases on all the workshop everywhere) or older graphics that look better (IMHO) but bug out/have peices disapper and dont show gender or the apostrophe in a word like surrounding nicknames.
Its unclear what these settings do and randomly trying differnt settings isnt getting me the results I want. Older gfx with working letters (and no V or N on the world map)
TWBT ("Text Will Be Text") is a DFHack plugin that makes major changes to how graphics are displayed. DFHack is not ready for the current version yet, so TWBT cannot be used on the current version yet. Until DFHack and TWBT are ready, you cannot achieve the results you want.
Some graphics packs require TWBT to render properly. This is the cause of many of the glitches you're seeing when you try to use "older" graphics packs. The graphics packs which have been updated for the newest version do not require TWBT, but need to make some sacrifices in clarity as a consequence (e.g. V and N on the world map).
Please be patient. DFHack and TWBT, like all Dwarf Fortress utilities, are fan-made, fan-maintained, and fan-updated.
Sorry I wasnt clear but I'm using the 40.24 not 42. None of the issues I'm having are bugs - I just dont know how to set the gfx setting and what they do and I was looking for help.
Post by: burned on December 15, 2015, 02:37:31 am
Is there someone I can go to explain the difference between graphic font and font settings, TBWT and Standard and 2D, truetype or no truetype? I seem to be forced to make a choice between newer graphics (tiny hard to see chairs, non-spiderweb gems and bookcases on all the workshop everywhere) or older graphics that look better (IMHO) but bug out/have peices disapper and dont show gender or the apostrophe in a word like surrounding nicknames.
Its unclear what these settings do and randomly trying differnt settings isnt getting me the results I want. Older gfx with working letters (and no V or N on the world map)
TWBT ("Text Will Be Text") is a DFHack plugin that makes major changes to how graphics are displayed. DFHack is not ready for the current version yet, so TWBT cannot be used on the current version yet. Until DFHack and TWBT are ready, you cannot achieve the results you want.
Some graphics packs require TWBT to render properly. This is the cause of many of the glitches you're seeing when you try to use "older" graphics packs. The graphics packs which have been updated for the newest version do not require TWBT, but need to make some sacrifices in clarity as a consequence (e.g. V and N on the world map).
Please be patient. DFHack and TWBT, like all Dwarf Fortress utilities, are fan-made, fan-maintained, and fan-updated.
Sorry I wasnt clear but I'm using the 40.24 not 42. None of the issues I'm having are bugs - I just dont know how to set the gfx setting and what they do and I was looking for help.
Aside from what the init.txt says right above the PRINT_MODE setting and the TRUETYPE setting, you could probably find sporadic information in the old FotF: Dwarf Fortress 40dxx threads before the merge in 34.04 (trivia at this point).
Quote
"By and large, 2D should be the most reliable, while STANDARD has a good combination of speed and reliability.
However, all 2D modes are normally far slower than even STANDARD, which may be the slowest OpenGL mode."
If you're focused on fps, turn TRUETYPE off just like the init.txt says.
As for TBWT, I have no idea. I suspect it probably has its own thread . . . like if you had a Phoebus' Graphic Set question you'd ask in the . . . Ack!
Post by: LeoCean on December 15, 2015, 03:58:48 pm
Post by: Evrett33 on December 15, 2015, 09:54:02 pm
Yeah if you want to know what the truetype/ standard and all that shit is about go to the wiki, it's kindof hard to off hand say what it's about when it's already there, besides the twbt printmode which is just to allow twbt to work. It use to run on standard but that wasn't the best printmode for it since it had something that conflicted with it.
Thnaks I went to the wiki first (duh). It is not helpful. I'm wondering if anyone really understands these setting as I've asked in two big threads now and I get a lot of defections but no straight answers. People seem to not know or are afraid to answer from lack of confidence. What is the dif between the various TBWT button settings? How does it relate to the various types of fonts and gfx fonts and what do all the terms there mean? WhyHow do I get rid of the newer detailed gfx (tiny chairs ugly crystals and bookcases in al lthe workstations) but set the font to regular text without it being buggy or failing to show gender and apostrophe symbols? Can I get a non ascii world map that has gfx for V and N (hills and badlands).
Post by: lethosor on December 15, 2015, 10:48:54 pm
Yeah if you want to know what the truetype/ standard and all that shit is about go to the wiki, it's kindof hard to off hand say what it's about when it's already there, besides the twbt printmode which is just to allow twbt to work. It use to run on standard but that wasn't the best printmode for it since it had something that conflicted with it.STANDARD couldn't have conflicted with TwbT because DF defaults to STANDARD when it doesn't recognize the print mode setting (which is the case with "TWBT"). "TWBT" is just what TwbT uses to know if it should enable itself on startup, as far as I know.
Post by: burned on December 15, 2015, 10:51:37 pm
Perhaps your words are difficult to parse, because your complaints don't match what those settings are for OR TWBT uses those settings as a "hack" if you will in a way that was not originally intended. . . in vanilla PRINT_MODE has ZERO to do with any character tileset or creature tileset and everything to do with the OpenGL code introduced back in 34.04.
Button's post points you in the right direction regardless of what version you originally meant.
In other words, try this thread (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=138754.0).
If no one can help you there maybe the problem is not with TWBT; perhaps the problem is ungratefulness.
Post by: Manzeenan on December 16, 2015, 03:40:04 am
Post by: LeoCean on December 16, 2015, 05:49:20 am
Yeah if you want to know what the truetype/ standard and all that shit is about go to the wiki, it's kindof hard to off hand say what it's about when it's already there, besides the twbt printmode which is just to allow twbt to work. It use to run on standard but that wasn't the best printmode for it since it had something that conflicted with it.STANDARD couldn't have conflicted with TwbT because DF defaults to STANDARD when it doesn't recognize the print mode setting (which is the case with "TWBT"). "TWBT" is just what TwbT uses to know if it should enable itself on startup, as far as I know.
Yeah you are right, it just uses TWBT and TWBT_LEGACY because it can't use STANDARD to just differentiate those 2 modes.
Evrett33 I'm guessing you don't like overrides? If so you can find overrides.txt in the data/init folder and delete it. I've no idea, if you posted a screenshot with what you dislike it'd be clear but I've no idea what you mean by chair and bookcase without it. Idk what you mean by twbt buttons? Are you using the starter pack or something? That'd be the best place to ask if you are and then PeridexisErrant should have all that stuff already documented. I know the wiki more or less has all that info besides twbt printmode because that's just what text will be text uses to differentiate between those two modes. The legacy one allows the graphics font tileset to be used on the map instead of the text font that is usually used with Twbt as the text font is more or less clearer on it but pretty maps are better.
Ah for not acii world map you could run twbt_legacy in capitals until you embark then exit out and switch back to twbt since legacy mode is suppose to be laggier or something. It could have been changed who knows, it was really just left in for those who wanted the pretty map I believe plus less obscure reasons. You can make tilesizes bigger with twbt tilesize ## ## in extra_dfhack_init.init for example. FONT is clearly the font that is used for text while Graphics font is the main tileset that is used for the ingame map and other stuff that uses it, it's much better to read the wiki for that. The printmodes for everything but twbt is already explained on the wiki and the above should have told you whatever you wanted to know about twbt printmodes. It just allows people to use more than one tileset for map items/stuff otherwise graphics font/ font used is the same unless you use truetype text.
Post by: Phoebus on December 16, 2015, 08:14:03 pm
You can't directly use it for the game, but other people can use them to more easily add things to the graphic packs without my help.
On that subject, yes you are free to add things to the graphic pack, or make your own version of the graphic pack. Most of the art in the pack has been, borrowed, from the community, and I've created to pack for the benefit of the community. Feel free to use or improve it as you wish.
Sadly, I will no be able to update the graphic pack myself. I suffer from anxiety/dread issues, and working on this pack is one of my triggers (download GIMP and study the graphic files to quickly understand why.) I'm sorry I can no longer support the pack. I will visit/lurk once in a while, like I did for the past year, to keep up with what's happening with DF.
In the spirit of the winter season, I wish you all some happy goblin slaying and elf forest lava flooding!
Post by: Chimerat on December 16, 2015, 08:32:22 pm
On that subject, yes you are free to add things to the graphic pack, or make your own version of the graphic pack. Most of the art in the pack has been, borrowed, from the community, and I've created to pack for the benefit of the community. Feel free to use or improve it as you wish.Thank you. :)
Sadly, I will no be able to update the graphic pack myself. I suffer from anxiety/dread issues, and working on this pack is one of my triggersBeing forced into a French work environment is one of mine.
Take care of yourself Phoebus, I certainly hope everyone else understands health comes before anything else.
Post by: Button on December 16, 2015, 08:35:32 pm
Post by: Evrett33 on December 17, 2015, 01:51:32 am
Evrett33,
Perhaps your words are difficult to parse, because your complaints don't match what those settings are for OR TWBT uses those settings as a "hack" if you will in a way that was not originally intended. . . in vanilla PRINT_MODE has ZERO to do with any character tileset or creature tileset and everything to do with the OpenGL code introduced back in 34.04.
If no one can help you there maybe the problem is not with TWBT; perhaps the problem is ungratefulness.
Gotta luv the internet.
Still looking for someone who can spell out which differnt gfx modes/fonts I should be using and what they mean.
Post by: Aydjile on December 17, 2015, 10:04:55 am
I'm sorry I can no longer support the pack.
wow, i am very sad to hear that and i wish you would give me a chance to help you with your anxiety. because i believe that your tileset is the best one and DF would lack greatly without it. when Doren started working on in, it does not have the same feeling anymore. there is no even assembler. different vibe and everything. your pixel art is very canon to the world of dwarfs.
Post by: Button on December 17, 2015, 10:22:04 am
Gotta luv the internet.
Still looking for someone who can spell out which differnt gfx modes/fonts I should be using and what they mean.
You might have more luck if, instead of hijacking existing threads focused on barely-related topics, you created a help thread.
You also might have more luck if you didn't insult the people who are trying to help you.
Post by: MDFification on December 17, 2015, 11:12:16 am
Sadly, I will no be able to update the graphic pack myself. I suffer from anxiety/dread issues, and working on this pack is one of my triggers (download GIMP and study the graphic files to quickly understand why.) I'm sorry I can no longer support the pack. I will visit/lurk once in a while, like I did for the past year, to keep up with what's happening with DF.
I'm sorry to here that mate. I'm the same way.
I encourage you to at least keep up with how the graphics pack is doing if other people continue development - from personal experience, exposing yourself to the source of the anxiety in a limited, controlled way can really help you make progress.
Keep fighting the good fight!
Post by: JRF2k on December 17, 2015, 11:32:07 am
I hear you on the anxiety. It's some horrible crap to deal with.
Thanks for a great contribution to the DF community and I hope you can get ahold of the beast that anxiety can be and overcome it.
Health and happiness to you in the coming year!
JRF2k
Post by: notfood on December 17, 2015, 11:52:17 am
Post by: mariankonieczny on December 17, 2015, 12:17:00 pm
On that subject, yes you are free to add things to the graphic pack, or make your own version of the graphic pack. Most of the art in the pack has been, borrowed, from the community, and I've created to pack for the benefit of the community. Feel free to use or improve it as you wish.
Sadly, I will no be able to update the graphic pack myself. I suffer from anxiety/dread issues, and working on this pack is one of my triggers (download GIMP and study the graphic files to quickly understand why.) I'm sorry I can no longer support the pack. I will visit/lurk once in a while, like I did for the past year, to keep up with what's happening with DF.
Thank you for your job on the tileset, take care!
Post by: Zupkuck on December 17, 2015, 12:42:58 pm
Post by: HawtNudie on December 17, 2015, 01:09:55 pm
Post by: Sozzals on December 17, 2015, 01:11:06 pm
Post by: migshark on December 17, 2015, 01:22:04 pm
Post by: SinsOfTheBothers on December 17, 2015, 01:26:24 pm
Post by: USP45 on December 17, 2015, 01:46:58 pm
Post by: RadGH on December 17, 2015, 01:51:10 pm
You did not have to give us a reason of why, but I thank you for letting us know. I've seen many projects just get abandoned and it makes it difficult/awkward for someone to pick up the project. Hopefully someone will pick up the project where you left off and keep your tileset alive.
But if not, you'll still be a legend in Dwarf Fortress history! Thanks again Phoebus, happy holidays!
Post by: Mokkun on December 17, 2015, 02:25:24 pm
Post by: ghostwoods on December 17, 2015, 02:40:24 pm
In the spirit of the winter season, I wish you all some happy goblin slaying and elf forest lava flooding!
Thanks for all the very, very hard work, Phoebus. DF is a stronger, better thing because of you. Be gentle with yourself -- you deserve it.
Post by: Aqma on December 17, 2015, 02:45:15 pm
Thank you as well for all the modders and contributeurs to df, amazing work!
Post by: Kroy Mortlach on December 17, 2015, 03:00:24 pm
Post by: DragonDePlatino on December 17, 2015, 03:08:42 pm
Post by: Valience on December 17, 2015, 03:10:46 pm
I might have moved on to trying other sets, but thank you for opening the door for thousands of hours of enjoyment. Best of luck with everything you do from here on out, and have a great holiday.
Post by: hawkwing on December 17, 2015, 03:12:06 pm
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I suffer from anxiety/dread issues, and working on this pack is one of my triggers
Sorry to hear things aren't going well for you. Thank you for all the work you've done. I (and the rest of the community!) hope you manage to overcome the issues you are dealing with - not because we're hoping you'll come back and do more, but because you have already done so much.
Post by: Roxfall on December 17, 2015, 03:44:22 pm
QuoteI suffer from anxiety/dread issues, and working on this pack is one of my triggers
Sorry to hear things aren't going well for you. Thank you for all the work you've done. I (and the rest of the community!) hope you manage to overcome the issues you are dealing with - not because we're hoping you'll come back and do more, but because you have already done so much.
Dear Phoebus,
I want to thank you, personally, for being an inspiration, and for making my favorite tileset for this game. Sorry to hear you are not well, and hope you do whatever it is you need to do to feel better.
Post by: madk on December 17, 2015, 03:49:29 pm
Post by: txtsd on December 17, 2015, 04:41:45 pm
[...] and working on this pack is one of my [...]
Clinical depression here. I know what it's like to be unable to do even your favorite things.
May the rest of your life be devoid of anxiety inducing things.
Post by: CatalystParadox on December 17, 2015, 04:45:34 pm
The pouch of secrets contains most of the content that I used to make the graphic pack. It's in the GIMP format, and most file contain multitudes of layers for different object, to separate foreground from background, and to create complex foreground/background graphic effects.
You can't directly use it for the game, but other people can use them to more easily add things to the graphic packs without my help.
On that subject, yes you are free to add things to the graphic pack, or make your own version of the graphic pack. Most of the art in the pack has been, borrowed, from the community, and I've created to pack for the benefit of the community. Feel free to use or improve it as you wish.
Sadly, I will no be able to update the graphic pack myself. I suffer from anxiety/dread issues, and working on this pack is one of my triggers (download GIMP and study the graphic files to quickly understand why.) I'm sorry I can no longer support the pack. I will visit/lurk once in a while, like I did for the past year, to keep up with what's happening with DF.
In the spirit of the winter season, I wish you all some happy goblin slaying and elf forest lava flooding!
Phoebus, thank you for your amazing work. It's been an integral part of my DF experience and will continue to be so. Don't think of it as discontinuing your work, but rather as having finished it at long last. Your great artifact has been completed! A masterwork for the ages.
I've dealt with some of the same things you are now dealing with in the past, and DF was my usual source of respite - your tileset, specifically, became associated with me-time and relief from the outside pressures. I hope you find similar sources of solace and wish you all the best.
Post by: Extreme Boyheat on December 17, 2015, 06:01:03 pm
Post by: mnjiman on December 17, 2015, 06:01:26 pm
Post by: palu on December 17, 2015, 06:11:36 pm
Post by: kmob on December 17, 2015, 06:39:55 pm
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Post by: BlackFlyme on December 17, 2015, 07:39:34 pm
Again, thanks for what you have done in the community, and I wish you all the best. You just do what you feel is best for you.
Post by: Iamblichos on December 17, 2015, 09:44:53 pm
Post by: krenshala on December 17, 2015, 11:45:29 pm
Post by: James009 on December 18, 2015, 03:13:15 am
Post by: NullForceOmega on December 18, 2015, 03:28:51 am
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Post by: Terminutter on December 18, 2015, 06:43:41 am
I wish you all the best with managing your condition, and hope you can find successful coping strategies to mitigate the effects of it. I also struggle with diagnosed anxiety, and can understand that this tileset was probably a massive burden to keep updated with performance anxiety about the speed and quality of updates! You should be proud with how well you managed, but don't feel guilty or sorry that you stopped, it is your choice and for your health, and you are no indebted to anyone, the only slavery we support is that of elves!
Maybe you will come back later to it, maybe you won't. I believe we can agree that for now it is good that you leave it for now.
Post by: meadman on December 18, 2015, 07:42:54 am
Post by: rudregues on December 18, 2015, 07:44:41 am
I wish you the best
EDIT: I'm playing df 0.42.03 through a Linux box and was able to use the last graphic set
Post by: rudregues on December 18, 2015, 08:16:45 am
Worked for Manjaro Linux (Arch based):
- Download the last graphic set in the fist post of this thread
- Unzip DF_Phoebus_40_24v00.zip
- Copy all contents from DF_Phoebus_40_24v00 directory (except data, raw and sdl folders and its contents) to $HOME/.dwarffortress
- Copy all contents from DF_Phoebus_40_24v00/data/art/ to $HOME/.dwarffortress/data/art/
- Copy all contents from DF_Phoebus_40_24v00/data/init/phoebus/ to $HOME/.dwarffortress/data/init
(Optional, unless you already has a saved game) update your savings:
- Enter your df directory:
- cd $HOME/.dwarffortress
- Allow df_savegame_updater.sh to be executed:
- chmod +x df_savegame_updater.sh
- Run the script:
- sh df_savegame_updater.sh
Obs.: In Manjaro, df is installed in /opt/dwarffortress (fromAUR) and the directory $HOME/.dwarffortress has symlinks to /opt/dwarffortress, so I'm not sure if it could work with other distro like Ubuntu/Debian, maybe some adaptation would be required.
Post by: Magganon on December 18, 2015, 08:41:03 am
Post by: splinterz on December 18, 2015, 08:43:56 am
Post by: slothen on December 18, 2015, 10:41:13 am
Post by: pamelrabo on December 18, 2015, 01:09:06 pm
Your tileset introduced me to Dwarf Fortress, and still now I consider it the only way to play it. And I'm sure I'm not the only one.
That said: you go first. Do what you need to do to be ok.
And again: thanks a lot for all your efforts.
Post by: Phoebus on December 18, 2015, 02:26:40 pm
I won't be replying to specific replies, but to you all, so much thanks!
PS: RIP my inbox.
Post by: Button on December 18, 2015, 02:46:07 pm
I'm not volunteering, I can't art worth a damn; but I'm hoping someone will want to pick up the torch?
* or a different name if you don't feel comfortable having your name on it, ofc
Post by: DragonDePlatino on December 18, 2015, 02:53:16 pm
Phoebus, would you feel comfortable naming a successor/Official Phoebus* Graphics Pack Maintainer? I'd love it if we could keep your graphics pack & its style alive, and an official new maintainer with an official new thread would help with that, I think.
I'm not volunteering, I can't art worth a damn; but I'm hoping someone will want to pick up the torch?
* or a different name if you don't feel comfortable having your name on it, ofc
Seconded. I was considering proposing that myself, but I couldn't think of a way to say it without sounding rude. If you're up for that idea, Phoebus, pick someone who's active! IMO when it comes to modding, sheet passion for a project will always trump artistic skill. :D
Post by: Max™ on December 18, 2015, 03:09:42 pm
Post by: Chimerat on December 18, 2015, 03:11:53 pm
I personally kinda think of GemSet as having already picked up the torch since it's got so much of the friendliness and completeness that people like about Phoebus but ready for an HD+ world where 24x24 is more on the small end of native 80x25 tilesizes.I don't know about that... The sample screenshot over there makes my eyes bleed... :-[ I think it's because of the bright colours?
Post by: Pouncer on December 18, 2015, 03:29:29 pm
Pouncer
Post by: Aydjile on December 18, 2015, 03:38:54 pm
I think it's because of the bright colours?
agree. "phoebus" tileset have grimdark approach. colors and pixel art included. which "gems" have none.
Post by: Max™ on December 18, 2015, 05:20:11 pm
Fixed your misquote, but I never really thought of Phoebus as grimdark, I like the bright and clear contrasts though. The color schemes with stuff like the brownish blacks always hurt my eyes due to the lack of contrast.I don't know about that... The sample screenshot over there makes my eyes bleed... :-[ I think it's because of the bright colours?agree. "phoebus" tileset have grimdark approach. colors and pixel art included. which "gems" have none.
Post by: Button on December 18, 2015, 05:37:11 pm
Ironhand & Obsidian are grimdark. Phoebus is just... naturalistic? Bright, without being cartoony.
Post by: Chimerat on December 18, 2015, 07:57:31 pm
I don't think it was a misquote. I think Aydjile just wanted to specify what was being agreed with? ;)Fixed your misquote, but I never really thought of Phoebus as grimdark, I like the bright and clear contrasts though. The color schemes with stuff like the brownish blacks always hurt my eyes due to the lack of contrast.I don't know about that... The sample screenshot over there makes my eyes bleed... :-[ I think it's because of the bright colours?agree. "phoebus" tileset have grimdark approach. colors and pixel art included. which "gems" have none.
Post by: BlackFlyme on December 18, 2015, 08:03:12 pm
Post by: Chimerat on December 18, 2015, 08:07:51 pm
Accidentally quoted the right text, but the wrong person. Max just fixed the "Quote from X" part.Oh, I hadn't even noticed that. :D
Post by: Phoebus on December 18, 2015, 08:28:19 pm
Floor and soil is dark. Walls, creatures and objects are bright.
This allows for an overall dark screen that doesn't strain the eye, and the contrast makes it easier to find creatures and objects, which further reduces eye strain.
And the creature/objects/walls are bright so the tileset is a bit cheery.
And I've not picked a successor. I would suggest that volunteer(s) colaborate with eachother to maintain the tileset until one of them picks up the torch, so to speak. I'd rather the tileset branch out in a few direction, than it be constrained to one 'official' successor.
Post by: DragonDePlatino on December 18, 2015, 09:26:36 pm
Post by: Ozyton on December 18, 2015, 09:48:35 pm
I do agree with the contrast thing. I play in a fairly dark room (only one light, pah) and having very bright objects on a black background puts a bit of strain on my eye (even the box I am typing this in is kinda bad, the dark theme of the forum has always been a favorite though). I never even heard of DFHack until fairly recently, and I never used the lazy newb pack, the graphics set and Dwarf Therapist were always good enough for me.
So hopefully you guys can pick up where Phoebus left off and continue to make this a great and accessible graphics set. I wouldn't want to see it go.
Post by: shazow on December 19, 2015, 02:26:55 pm
Post by: kiwiphoenix on December 19, 2015, 03:20:51 pm
Thank you, Phoebus, for all you've done for the DF community!
Your tileset has always been the face of this game to me - and many others, evidently.
Beyond being crisp and visually pleasant, I've also always respected how perfectly ambiguous your tiles are. It's not easy to make a single picture to represent cheese/fruit/rock/pumps, chests/quivers/villages, hills/headstons, etc, but you managed it brilliantly.
So, like the rest of us, I just want to salute you, Phoebus. Best of luck in your future endeavours.
Post by: TheHossofMoss on December 19, 2015, 09:41:44 pm
Post by: HammerHand on December 20, 2015, 03:00:13 pm
This is just another echo of support from the community, but...
Phoebus... thank you so much for your hard work on this graphics set. It's always been my go-to, and I never took your efforts for granted. So... thank you, and please take care of yourself. Your health and happiness should take priority in your own life.
Post by: Meph on December 24, 2015, 04:05:44 pm
I will come back to DF after a year off, might as well help maintain the tileset that I started playing with. Due to my work on the MDF mod I'm quite used to altering tilesets, especially Phoebus.
Post by: Archmonk on December 24, 2015, 11:37:38 pm
Big thumbs up to Meph. :)
Post by: PeridexisErrant on December 25, 2015, 01:44:25 am
Would it be ok with everyone if I continue this?
I will come back to DF after a year off, might as well help maintain the tileset that I started playing with. Due to my work on the MDF mod I'm quite used to altering tilesets, especially Phoebus.
Collaborate with https://github.com/fricy/Phoebus
Post by: Zeranamu on December 27, 2015, 08:46:17 pm
Post by: JustMercy1994 on December 27, 2015, 09:41:53 pm
Post by: Uristits on December 28, 2015, 11:22:11 am
Post by: Ghills on December 31, 2015, 03:42:50 pm
Yeah I need a tileset to really enjoy this game. I can play and understand the matrix, but I rather look at pokemonesque sprites. It helps with immersion. I've been waiting for tilesets and they just aren't happening D:
Go get the LNP, it has multiple tilesets.
Sorry to see you go, Phoebus, but I understand. You gotta take care of yourself. Your tileset is my favorite of all though, and I'm sad to hear that it's been the source of such anxiety for you. You did a really good job!
Post by: Judge Dredd on January 01, 2016, 02:16:42 pm
I just wanted to say thanks Phoebus for the effort you put into this tileset, It's always been the one I've used!
Wish you all the best.
Post by: CazuzaCzz on January 01, 2016, 05:37:14 pm
After messing around for a bit, found that if i change one line of the file \raw\objects\creature_large_tropical.txt on my save it would fix something and stop the error msg.
I changed [CREATURE:TIGER_MAN] to [CREATURE:TIGERMAN]
After this i also needed to change the file \raw\objects\creature_subterranean.txt. [CREATURE:TOAD_GIANT_CAVE] to [CREATURE:TOAD_GIANT]
I dont know why this happened. Dont know if this is something that need to be fixed or just something that i broke by myself.
Thanks for the Graphic Set, and hope that this help someone.
Post by: LeoCean on January 01, 2016, 06:56:25 pm
Post by: Meph on January 03, 2016, 07:25:18 am
Post by: sv-esk on January 03, 2016, 08:29:13 am
Вопросник тред, post No. 145507 (http://chuck.dfwk.ru/df/res/141215.html#i145507)
Spoiler: work (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: comparison (click to show/hide)
Instruction: download zip, unpack, copy-paste folders to your df folder(copy into all, owerwrite all)
Optionally - open your old init and new one, search for changes. You might want to change [GRAPHICS_FONT] to Phoebus_16x16_TextBackground.png, Phoebus_16x16_Smooth.png or any other from data/art if you see them prettier
full list of new creatures:
Spoiler: "Full list of new 0.42.04 creatures" (click to show/hide)
Post by: Meph on January 03, 2016, 10:49:44 am
Phoebus released the control of his tileset to the community, so that everyone can pitch in and improve it.
Post by: Chimerat on January 03, 2016, 05:15:04 pm
Post by: lethosor on January 03, 2016, 05:34:15 pm
Phoebus isn't maintaining this himself anymore, so there isn't an official release for v0.42. Fricy has provided an update for 0.42.03 here (https://github.com/fricy/phoebus), and hopefully future development can take place there, but the number of creatures added in 0.42.04 might cause delays.
Post by: Chimerat on January 03, 2016, 05:47:10 pm
Yes, go to the first page.So... Phoebus updates the links in the first post? ???
Phoebus isn't maintaining this himself anymore, so there isn't an official release for v0.42. Fricy has provided an update for 0.42.03 here (https://github.com/fricy/phoebus), and hopefully future development can take place there, but the number of creatures added in 0.42.04 might cause delays.
Post by: sv-esk on January 03, 2016, 05:53:10 pm
Is there any easy way to find the most resent version of this without going through pages of posts? :-\
forked fricy's repo, updated to 0.42.04, included this file: https://github.com/sv-esk/Phoebus.gitSpoiler: comparison (click to show/hide)
Instruction: download zip, unpack, copy-paste folders to your df folder(copy into all, owerwrite all)
Optionally - open your old init and new one, search for changes. You might want to change [GRAPHICS_FONT] to Phoebus_16x16_TextBackground.png, Phoebus_16x16_Smooth.png or any other from data/art if you see them prettier
Post by: Chimerat on January 03, 2016, 05:53:58 pm
Thank you! :DIs there any easy way to find the most resent version of this without going through pages of posts? :-\forked fricy's repo, updated to 0.42.04, included this file: https://github.com/sv-esk/Phoebus.gitSpoiler: comparison (click to show/hide)
Instruction: download zip, unpack, copy-paste folders to your df folder(copy into all, owerwrite all)
Optionally - open your old init and new one, search for changes. You might want to change [GRAPHICS_FONT] to Phoebus_16x16_TextBackground.png, Phoebus_16x16_Smooth.png or any other from data/art if you see them prettier
Post by: sv-esk on January 03, 2016, 06:56:28 pm
Oh, its not new. For some reason Toady One deleted creature_savage_tropical.txt and put creatures from it to other files. And swapped name components.
Giant (2000kg) fly- my first pixel-drawing from scratch attempt:
(http://i.imgur.com/zYTy55W.png)
upd:
Toad man(recolored Doren frog man), worm man(Worms!), all new insects, bird men(remixed Doren birds, normal birds for comparison)
(http://i.imgur.com/kSD0Cyz.png)
"probably barely better then letters/remixed new animalmen" release coming soon
Post by: Doren on January 05, 2016, 03:01:54 pm
btw, i've got some new animals too.
I think we could make a compilation of our tiles into one set or let the forum users do that for us
(http://i.imgur.com/nBcdmYH.png)
DFFD download (http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11614)
Post by: Button on January 05, 2016, 04:43:02 pm
Post by: sv-esk on January 05, 2016, 06:57:13 pm
Yes, I noticed font is different, and I don't like it. I thought Fricy's font and everything else is accurate so I just left it as is when I forked from his repository.
So what fonts are accurate? I checked out latest 40.24-preinstalled from first post. It has sans-serif font but has no walls from spoiler Engraved old crenelated walls and floors, which are default in Fricy's repo. Am I missing something?
Post by: Button on January 06, 2016, 12:14:27 pm
The fix would presumably be to use Phoebus's tileset re-mixing utility to put together a close approximation of the default tileset from 0.40.24 - or even just revert to the 0.40.24 tileset, if that wouldn't break any graphics for the new things.
Post by: lethosor on January 06, 2016, 04:07:08 pm
Post by: sv-esk on January 07, 2016, 12:53:21 pm
Spoiler: Phoebus_16x16_Crenelated.png (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: wrong tracks in Fricy's repo (click to show/hide)
Post by: fricy on January 08, 2016, 02:27:22 pm
My hypothesis is that Fricy grabbed his default from the Lazy Newb Pack, and someone involved with the LNP accidentally uploaded their own custom variant of Phoebus instead of default-Phoebus sometime in the past month or so.Almost correct, I didn't spot this change when merging in changes from Doren's TWBT (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=152698.0). Thx for the nagging, and sorry for taking this long to respond.
Fricy maintains a LNP (but he also maintains a dozen other graphics sets on GitHub, so it's possible he included the wrong font in that one).Perhaps we should really move my repos under a proper organization, so it's in one place, and I'm not the only one with write access. Although if anyone want's in, there's this: https://github.com/Lazy-Newb-Pack/DFgraphics. The submodules can be changed to point to another fork like sv-esk's.
Reverted tilesets to 40.24(only default font is different) and added tileset with "old crenelated walls"(see spoilers in first post). Fixed tracks (the tracks in Fricy's repo are not inversed for some reason), included Doren's new animalmen and giants tileset as is.Thx, merged as it is now. Feel free to send a pull when you have more, or I can change DFgraphics to point to your fork if you think it's better.
Post by: lethosor on January 08, 2016, 04:55:21 pm
Perhaps we should really move my repos under a proper organization, so it's in one place, and I'm not the only one with write access. Although if anyone want's in, there's this: https://github.com/Lazy-Newb-Pack/DFgraphics. The submodules can be changed to point to another fork like sv-esk's.You could move yours to Lazy-Newb-Pack/DFgraphics - there's nothing really important in that fork right now, so I'm not sure why it's there. Maybe we could set up a "graphics" team or something and move over the other repos as well.
Edit: Oh, you uploaded the releases in the LNP fork, but all of the other development is taking place in yours. Hm.
Post by: PeridexisErrant on January 10, 2016, 09:40:57 pm
Post by: lethosor on January 10, 2016, 09:53:23 pm
I was leaning toward a team in the LNP organization myself (and there already is one), because most LNP maintainers would also be involved with maintaining graphics sets to an extent, and it would still be really easy to give people write access to the graphics repos all at once or individually. If repos like LNP-shared-core ever get used, it would also be less of a headache to ensure that everyone with access to it also has access to the graphics repos (at least, the DFHack team has had an easier time dealing with non-core repos in the DFHack organization than repos outside of the organization). I'm not sure how much of a factor clutter would be, though.
Post by: PeridexisErrant on January 10, 2016, 10:36:57 pm
I've defaulted to a separate system with https://github.com/PeridexisErrant/starter-pack over the shared core, simply due to differences about which of the files I include from those Fricy uses. However I plan to (eventually, after consulting) treat the shared core as a repository of everything we've encountered, and then take a subset of that via config file. Making the pack builder work on OSX and Linux too might help with this, of course, and that's another project somewhere on the list.
Post by: notfood on January 18, 2016, 06:59:16 pm
Post by: Quiet-Sun on January 25, 2016, 08:26:35 pm
I'm new to DF and, since 16x16 tilesets are kind of small in my screen I made a 24x24 version for you to check out:
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11711
I used the waifu2x algorithm which seems to work pretty well for upscaling pixel art. Check it out and let me know of any problems.
Post by: Chimerat on January 25, 2016, 08:41:57 pm
Hey Guys,
I'm new to DF and, since 16x16 tilesets are kind of small in my screen I made a 24x24 version for you to check out:
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11711
I used the waifu2x algorithm which seems to work pretty well for upscaling pixel art. Check it out and let me know of any problems.
Is this for the 0.42.05 release? It seems to be for 40.24? ???
Post by: Button on January 25, 2016, 09:19:09 pm
Hey Guys,
I'm new to DF and, since 16x16 tilesets are kind of small in my screen I made a 24x24 version for you to check out:
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11711
I used the waifu2x algorithm which seems to work pretty well for upscaling pixel art. Check it out and let me know of any problems.
It's a little late to tell you this now, I suppose, but you can zoom in and out using (by default) the mouse scroll button.
Post by: Quiet-Sun on January 25, 2016, 09:33:04 pm
Is this for the 0.42.05 release? It seems to be for 40.24? ???
it is for the 40.24, which is the version of the lazy newb pack. I wanted to see if there is interest, I can do 42.05
It's a little late to tell you this now, I suppose, but you can zoom in and out using (by default) the mouse scroll button.
Thank you, I know. But DF uses a linear interpolation which degrades the quality of the art. Not a big deal, but I thought maybe someone else minds it. The waifu2x algorithm makes things very pretty:
Bilinear:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/408446/DF/kobolds_bilinear.png)
Weifu2x:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/408446/DF/kobolds_waifu.png)
Post by: Chimerat on January 25, 2016, 09:45:05 pm
I haven't played in a while because the version that's being linked here has very odd font that literally hurts my eyes. So my interest would depend on the font used, honestly.Is this for the 0.42.05 release? It seems to be for 40.24? ???
it is for the 40.24, which is the version of the lazy newb pack. I wanted to see if there is interest, I can do 42.05
Post by: Quiet-Sun on January 25, 2016, 10:20:18 pm
I haven't played in a while because the version that's being linked here has very odd font that literally hurts my eyes. So my interest would depend on the font used, honestly.
I'm very new at this. do you use the Text Will Be Text hack and DFHack? If so, I could make one for you with the font from the GEMSET which is very pretty:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/408446/DF/Phoebus_gemsetfont.jpg)
Post by: BlackSmokeDMax on January 25, 2016, 10:31:35 pm
I haven't played in a while because the version that's being linked here has very odd font that literally hurts my eyes. So my interest would depend on the font used, honestly.Is this for the 0.42.05 release? It seems to be for 40.24? ???
it is for the 40.24, which is the version of the lazy newb pack. I wanted to see if there is interest, I can do 42.05
Look at my post here: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=126076.msg6708258#msg6708258 and see if that will help you out. I swapped out the standard for something I liked better and it worked very well, hopefully you can find something that will work well for you with the same basic game plan I used. It does take a bunch of quitting and reloading, but getting the exact look you want is worth the time in my opinion. I ended up changing the color scheme from that picture in my post (need to click spoiler tag to see it) from whatever it was in that post to the ASCII default color scheme, but I do waver on that decision. You can make a lot of tries with different combos before you even mess around doing what I did with moving the one file from GemSet to Spacefox.
Post by: Chimerat on January 26, 2016, 05:46:56 am
I can use Text Will Be Text, so long as DFHack doesn't make any other changes to the game past that.I haven't played in a while because the version that's being linked here has very odd font that literally hurts my eyes. So my interest would depend on the font used, honestly.
I'm very new at this. do you use the Text Will Be Text hack and DFHack? If so, I could make one for you with the font from the GEMSET which is very pretty:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/408446/DF/Phoebus_gemsetfont.jpg)
Post by: lethosor on January 26, 2016, 12:32:10 pm
Post by: sv-esk on January 27, 2016, 09:33:35 am
Btw, PhoebusTilesetAssembler from 40.24 still usable - it modifies only data/art/Phoebus_16x16.png file, not raws.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: jaardichten on February 02, 2016, 11:31:37 pm
I'm new to DF and, since 16x16 tilesets are kind of small in my screen I made a 24x24 version for you to check out:I looked at the spacefox 24px tiles and their scaling is impressive, they look much much better on my screen than being upscaled via DF zooming. This is great! How are you doing it? Is there a plugin with that algorithm which can be used with whatever batch job supporting software? TIA.
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11711
I used the waifu2x algorithm which seems to work pretty well for upscaling pixel art. Check it out and let me know of any problems.
Very much interested in Phoebus 24px. Coupled with TWBT and another font, DF will be a dream.
Post by: Quiet-Sun on February 03, 2016, 12:51:02 am
I'm new to DF and, since 16x16 tilesets are kind of small in my screen I made a 24x24 version for you to check out:I looked at the spacefox 24px tiles and their scaling is impressive, they look much much better on my screen than being upscaled via DF zooming. This is great! How are you doing it? Is there a plugin with that algorithm which can be used with whatever batch job supporting software? TIA.
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11711
I used the waifu2x algorithm which seems to work pretty well for upscaling pixel art. Check it out and let me know of any problems.
Very much interested in Phoebus 24px. Coupled with TWBT and another font, DF will be a dream.
Here is Phoebus 24px for 40.24:
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11711
Is this the version you need?
Post by: jaardichten on February 03, 2016, 07:16:06 am
Here is Phoebus 24px for 40.24:Oh sorry, no, I need the newest for Phoebus/DF42.05
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11711
Is this the version you need?
Post by: Quiet-Sun on February 03, 2016, 02:40:53 pm
Phoebus 24x24 for 42.05 (http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11737)
Post by: jaardichten on February 03, 2016, 11:26:47 pm
Ok try this one and let me know:Those are perfect in size. This, TWBT and Shizzle_1280x500 are the perfect combination for a Lenovo W500 Notebook/my eyes. That algorithm is way better than doing ingame zooming.
Phoebus 24x24 for 42.05 (http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=11737)
With TWBT and using another font, which Phoebus tileset is recommended? The Symbol one?
I've seen a few binaries for that algorithm, which one do you use... so coupled with a cmd script with a for loop it's no problem for me to batch encode and DIY... is any altering of text files necessary? OK I've seen the manifest file, but maybe there's more and technical reasons....
Post by: Quiet-Sun on February 04, 2016, 01:56:53 am
Those are perfect in size. This, TWBT and Shizzle_1280x500 are the perfect combination for a Lenovo W500 Notebook/my eyes. That algorithm is way better than doing ingame zooming.
I'm glad to hear it!
With TWBT and using another font, which Phoebus tileset is recommended? The Symbol one?
It's a matter of personal choice. The symbol one is indeed my favorite.
I've seen a few binaries for that algorithm, which one do you use... so coupled with a cmd script with a for loop it's no problem for me to batch encode and DIY... is any altering of text files necessary? OK I've seen the manifest file, but maybe there's more and technical reasons....
I actually used this one. It's really the best and it has pre-compiled binaries:
https://github.com/tanakamura/waifu2x-converter-cpp
Of course, the best result is achieved if you dissasemble first all pngs into individual tiles. I intend to upload a matlab application to do it. Keep an eye on the forums and I'll drop a line here when I do.
Post by: Chimerat on February 04, 2016, 04:59:46 am
Of course, the best result is achieved if you dissasemble first all pngs into individual tiles. I intend to upload a matlab application to do it. Keep an eye on the forums and I'll drop a line here when I do.I look forward to it. I'd asked a while back if there was a list of all the images required for a tileset, but a folder (or folders) with individual files sorted would work just as well. :)
Post by: Aydjile on February 04, 2016, 10:56:08 am
Post by: Quiet-Sun on February 04, 2016, 01:05:40 pm
I look forward to it. I'd asked a while back if there was a list of all the images required for a tileset, but a folder (or folders) with individual files sorted would work just as well. :)
how come there is no phoebus tileset assembler included? :-[
I'm also in the process of defining a universal standard with templates for all creatures and everything so that we truly take advantage of artists's talent without people having to worry about text files, raws, and placement. The upscaler application will be released with the standard. Keep an eye open for it
Post by: Chimerat on February 04, 2016, 05:05:32 pm
Keep an eye open for it:o I'll keep two!
Post by: Aydjile on February 04, 2016, 07:36:18 pm
Keep an eye open for it
thank you, i will!
Post by: jaardichten on February 06, 2016, 03:20:00 am
Three-eyed raven is watching you as well.Keep an eye open for it:o I'll keep two!
Post by: Lohakar on February 08, 2016, 06:29:19 am
If I omitt such things like a backpack made from ONE chicken hide :-),
I would like to point to picture of the real wheelbarrow:
(https://kamusi.org/sites/kamusi.org/files/styles/large/public/field/image/wheelbarrow-300px.jpg?itok=e3BhOFxw) and what we have here: (http://www.akrangard.cz/ruzne/Phoebus_24x24Wheelbarrow.png).
Is it possible to remake it, please?
Post by: Boltgun on February 08, 2016, 08:27:20 am
I returned to DF after some time. It is more fun now with Temples, Tavers etc.
If I omitt such things like a backpack made from ONE chicken hide :-),
I would like to point to picture of the real wheelbarrow:
(https://kamusi.org/sites/kamusi.org/files/styles/large/public/field/image/wheelbarrow-300px.jpg?itok=e3BhOFxw) and what we have here: (http://www.akrangard.cz/ruzne/Phoebus_24x24Wheelbarrow.png).
Is it possible to remake it, please?
Wheelbarrow should look like a minecart (they have the same tile). What you have usually happens when you change graphic sets after generating a new world.
Post by: Quiet-Sun on February 09, 2016, 02:58:52 am
Three-eyed raven is watching you as well.Keep an eye open for it:o I'll keep two!
Ok! the tools are up!
Post by: Chimerat on February 09, 2016, 04:50:29 am
Three-eyed raven is watching you as well.Keep an eye open for it:o I'll keep two!
Ok! the tools are up!
"Unfortunately these tools work only for Windows 64-bit"
*dies* NOooo... :(
Post by: Boltgun on February 09, 2016, 08:44:43 am
I am trying to add the workshop overrides to Obsidian's set but as those use the Phoebus groud tiles, it does not look very good. If there is a file where the ground is on a separate layer that would help a lot.
Post by: Quiet-Sun on February 09, 2016, 10:45:41 am
Three-eyed raven is watching you as well.Keep an eye open for it:o I'll keep two!
Oh no Chimerat! I discovered I have access to a Linux server with Matlab, would a linux binary work for you?
Ok! the tools are up!
"Unfortunately these tools work only for Windows 64-bit"
*dies* NOooo... :(
Post by: Aydjile on February 10, 2016, 09:02:21 am
Post by: Quiet-Sun on February 10, 2016, 09:57:54 am
ah! link please?
Here! look at this thread:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=156151.0
Post by: Chimerat on February 10, 2016, 07:32:20 pm
Oh no Chimerat! I discovered I have access to a Linux server with Matlab, would a linux binary work for you?(At least I think that's what was new in there?)
I don't use Linux. I use Windows 7, but 32 bit, not 64.
Post by: Quiet-Sun on February 10, 2016, 10:39:14 pm
Post by: Blue_Dwarf on February 11, 2016, 04:09:55 am
Does it need to be updated or am I doing it wrong?
Post by: PeridexisErrant on February 11, 2016, 05:28:16 am
I've been using this version (https://github.com/DFgraphics/Phoebus) of Phoebus for 42.05, but it doesn't seem to be working for .06 (at least PyLNP doesn't show it as available for installing).
Does it need to be updated or am I doing it wrong?
Yes, it needs to be updated (probably, I haven't tested yet). The df_max_version declared in manifest.json thus tells PyLNP to hide it from users who might otherwise break their savegames...
Post by: sv-esk on February 11, 2016, 06:02:51 am
Code: (file changes.txt) [Select]
Auxiliary file changes for 0.42.06:
announcements
removed TRAVEL_ADVISORY
reaction
added adv bone carving reactions, with category support
added has_edge for reagent
manifest.json is only thing that needs to be updated in pack itself
BTW lion man and 42.05 lizards still ASCII
Post by: Blue_Dwarf on February 11, 2016, 07:01:38 am
I've been using this version (https://github.com/DFgraphics/Phoebus) of Phoebus for 42.05, but it doesn't seem to be working for .06 (at least PyLNP doesn't show it as available for installing).
Does it need to be updated or am I doing it wrong?
Yes, it needs to be updated (probably, I haven't tested yet). The df_max_version declared in manifest.json thus tells PyLNP to hide it from users who might otherwise break their savegames...
Yeah that worked, thanks :)
Post by: TheOnlySolitaire on March 27, 2016, 07:08:46 pm
It's been a few years since I've played. I'm excited to get back into DF again, but I'm hitting a problem. I've used both the stable and unstable versions of LNP to install Phoebus, and even downloaded a Phoebus tileset master file from one of the recent posts above. But while the tileset seems to work on Fortress mode, it doesn't work on the world-gen/site selection screens, where it seems to revert to Ascii.
I swear I remember there being tiles for the woods/jungles/oceans and such on the worldgen that were the same on fort view, ie grasslands were displayed like grass tiles were.
Is that no longer the case, or is there an issue with my installation of Phoebus?
Post by: Shonai_Dweller on March 27, 2016, 07:16:28 pm
Hi guys.I think that's a TWBT issue. It uses the tileset you have set for your text to show the map.
It's been a few years since I've played. I'm excited to get back into DF again, but I'm hitting a problem. I've used both the stable and unstable versions of LNP to install Phoebus, and even downloaded a Phoebus tileset master file from one of the recent posts above. But while the tileset seems to work on Fortress mode, it doesn't work on the world-gen/site selection screens, where it seems to revert to Ascii.
I swear I remember there being tiles for the woods/jungles/oceans and such on the worldgen that were the same on fort view, ie grasslands were displayed like grass tiles were.
Is that no longer the case, or is there an issue with my installation of Phoebus?
Post by: TheOnlySolitaire on March 27, 2016, 07:20:18 pm
I think that's a TWBT issue. It uses the tileset you have set for your text to show the map.
Thanks for the speedy reply.
TWBT is "Text Will Be Text", correct?
So should I download TWBT or do I need to edit a setting with notepad++?
Post by: CLA on March 28, 2016, 04:45:00 am
You already have TWBT - that's why this is happening. You can either disable TWBT or edit a setting with notepad++ (data/init/init.txt: FONT and FULLFONT to the same as GRAPHIC_FONT and GRAPHICS_FULLFONT, which should be phoebus_something.png).I think that's a TWBT issue. It uses the tileset you have set for your text to show the map.
Thanks for the speedy reply.
TWBT is "Text Will Be Text", correct?
So should I download TWBT or do I need to edit a setting with notepad++?
The reason this is done is so that text looks like text: no levers or other weird looking tiles, and grass patches instead of punctuation in text.
This also includes the world map.
You can set the "second" tileset to whatever you want, by the way. it doesn't have to be the default tileset.
Post by: Shonai_Dweller on March 28, 2016, 06:19:21 am
Post by: TheOnlySolitaire on March 28, 2016, 06:49:26 am
-snip--snip-
Thanks a lot guys, I solved the problem and Phoebus works properly now.
Post by: NW_Kohaku on March 31, 2016, 02:45:50 pm
Post by: CLA on April 01, 2016, 04:19:46 am
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=DF2014%3AGraphic_set&diff=224136&oldid=223187
And here are the new professions:
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=DF2014%3AGraphic_set&diff=221468&oldid=220629
Note that some merely changed file location or name (giant toad, tiger man ,etc).
I guess diff-ing the raws might give you a more readable format. Or even easier, check out Quiet-Sun's graphic standardization tools (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=156151.0), which should directly show you which of your graphics are missing.
Post by: NW_Kohaku on April 01, 2016, 10:57:36 am
Of course, a cursory glance says there aren't any poets, performers, bookbinders, or proper number of scholars, although those aren't my graphics to update. I'm not sure it would be right to change someone else's graphics set without permission.
Post by: CLA on April 01, 2016, 12:42:34 pm
That's helpful for changing my own graphics, but what I meant was that I was asking what holes there were in Phoebus's graphics. A lot of the "difference" there seems to pick up a formatting change.Oh right, I misunderstood.
Still, using the graphic standardization tool on a current phoebus graphics bundle should reveal all that are missing (as blank tiles).
Post by: LeoCean on April 05, 2016, 03:35:48 am
That's helpful for changing my own graphics, but what I meant was that I was asking what holes there were in Phoebus's graphics. A lot of the "difference" there seems to pick up a formatting change.
Of course, a cursory glance says there aren't any poets, performers, bookbinders, or proper number of scholars, although those aren't my graphics to update. I'm not sure it would be right to change someone else's graphics set without permission.
Phoebus quit go right ahead and add them if they aren't already added.
Post by: PeridexisErrant on April 05, 2016, 03:40:30 am
That's helpful for changing my own graphics, but what I meant was that I was asking what holes there were in Phoebus's graphics. A lot of the "difference" there seems to pick up a formatting change.
Of course, a cursory glance says there aren't any poets, performers, bookbinders, or proper number of scholars, although those aren't my graphics to update. I'm not sure it would be right to change someone else's graphics set without permission.
Phoebus quit go right ahead and add them if they aren't already added.
See also http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=152698
and https://github.com/DFgraphics/Phoebus
Post by: NW_Kohaku on April 05, 2016, 01:17:05 pm
Elves seem to be really lacking, and goblins have some real divergence in quality, tough...
(And Doren's been pretty busy. I never liked that diagonal brick icon for the floor, but it's clearly at the point where it would take too much effort to overwrite. For that matter, I've been replacing the "puffy cloud" wall for flux stone walls and sand/water textures, bar textures, and making a separate bamboo. Alongside modded creature icons, as well...)
Still, though, looking at this makes me wonder more and more why Toady doesn't just realize there's only so much he can overload the same icons, and just allow for tilesets of more than 256 tiles. He's resorting to inverting colors at this point, and even if he only wants pseudo-"ASCII", he could at least expand to unicode characters.
Post by: LeoCean on April 05, 2016, 03:39:59 pm
Post by: NW_Kohaku on April 05, 2016, 09:32:21 pm
Better chance of that happening once df gets to 64 bit but that is a mere dream to think we will ever have more than 256 tiles to use without twbt.
I'm not sure what 64 bit has to do with it. It's supposed to be coming soon, regardless, but as far as I know, that's more because of Worldgen hitting the memory limit than Fortress Mode.
Regardless, the problem isn't memory, but making distinct fortress tiles, items, and/or distinct images to represent statuses. Even ignoring tileset utility, there are plenty of existing text characters that would be of use in the base game:
Spoiler: long, entirely serious list (click to show/hide)
It wouldn't be hard at all to make tilesets arbitrarily extensible in size the way that graphic files already are. (You can declare how many tiles the .png gets diced into, which means you can have any arbitrary size.) It's literally only Toady's feigning this is an ASCII game and not seeing any reason to bother to expand from there (even just into unicode characters) standing in the way.
Post by: lethosor on April 06, 2016, 07:51:19 am
Post by: NW_Kohaku on April 06, 2016, 12:12:44 pm
It actually would be hard, because the core graphics system is set up to deal with 8-bit tiles (which limits it to 256). Creature tiles are an exception, but adding more generic tiles would probably require more work than you'd expect.
So, what you are saying is Toady actually put the tile in the map data, which needs compression?
That would make it more complex to change, but I don't think that's how it works. I thought how it works is that the map data has a material ID and object ID, which links to properties like tiles to display.
Post by: lethosor on April 28, 2016, 07:21:20 pm
Post by: crossmr on May 06, 2016, 12:50:25 am
That's helpful for changing my own graphics, but what I meant was that I was asking what holes there were in Phoebus's graphics. A lot of the "difference" there seems to pick up a formatting change.
Of course, a cursory glance says there aren't any poets, performers, bookbinders, or proper number of scholars, although those aren't my graphics to update. I'm not sure it would be right to change someone else's graphics set without permission.
Phoebus quit go right ahead and add them if they aren't already added.
Wow.. I didn't see that. That's too bad. I haven't played this in awhile but Phoebus' set was always my favorite. I also didn't notice that when I started playing again. I've got a nice fort all set up and didn't even realize I wasn't playing the latest version. I only noticed when I started reading up on things like libraries and couldn't figure out why I couldn't make them.
So...
is there any set I can transition to that is set up for the latest version and I could port my save over from this one to?
Post by: Pvt. Pirate on May 06, 2016, 03:52:05 pm
sry, i just saw your post in the corresponding thread :(
Post by: CLA on May 07, 2016, 09:46:55 am
Wow.. I didn't see that. That's too bad. I haven't played this in awhile but Phoebus' set was always my favorite. I also didn't notice that when I started playing again. I've got a nice fort all set up and didn't even realize I wasn't playing the latest version. I only noticed when I started reading up on things like libraries and couldn't figure out why I couldn't make them.
So...
is there any set I can transition to that is set up for the latest version and I could port my save over from this one to?
Phoebus is still being updated to new versions, just not by Phoebus himself. See here:
https://github.com/DFgraphics/Phoebus/releases
Or just use the Starter pack:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=126076.0
Post by: SpyderVenom on May 27, 2016, 04:50:29 am
Post by: CLA on May 27, 2016, 05:56:36 am
I dont like that it changes the text from clean nice text to blotchy shit, but I dont like to play with default and the lazy newb pack just crashes every hour and i read its the pack itselfs fault so I went and got the game, soundsense, and therapist... but then I added this pack and it chopped the text up into bits... I didnt want DF hack but is that what makes the text work again in the starter pack? And how can I make it work without DFhack? Thanks
You're either referring to TWBT (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=138754.0) (indeed a DFhack plugin), or enabling True Type. I assume the former, because that's what's shipped with the starter pack. Uou get a different effect by using the latter: enabling the True Type font with F12 (there's also a permanent setting in the init files, and you can change which font you want to use by replacing "data/art/font.ttf"), but this comes with its own set of problems (http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=5097).
Post by: Iamblichos on June 21, 2016, 09:52:51 am
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Post by: jecowa on June 22, 2016, 04:25:55 pm
Post by: Iamblichos on June 23, 2016, 02:34:05 pm
The outdated version might cause problems of some kind with crops. To get the version for DF v0.43.04, go to the following link, click the green "Clone or download" button, and download it as a ZIP.
Following link? :)
Post by: Broseph Stalin on June 23, 2016, 02:38:47 pm
The outdated version might cause problems of some kind with crops. To get the version for DF v0.43.04, go to the following link, click the green "Clone or download" button, and download it as a ZIP.
Following link? :)
I think he was trying to do this. (https://github.com/DFgraphics/Phoebus)
Edit: Also is there any sorcery I can perform to get diagonal walls?
Post by: CLA on June 23, 2016, 03:04:12 pm
Edit: Also is there any sorcery I can perform to get diagonal walls?Didn't phoebus write a little program that assembled the various tiles from different tilesets into a new one? Tileset assembler? I'm sure you can find it with google. Maybe even in this thread.
Post by: jecowa on June 23, 2016, 03:16:07 pm
I think he was trying to do this. (https://github.com/DFgraphics/Phoebus)
Edit: Also is there any sorcery I can perform to get diagonal walls?
Yeah, that's the one.
There is a tilesheet with diagonal walls included. If you want to activate it, open the file located at "/data/init/init.txt" and edit these lines:
Code: [Select]
[GRAPHICS_FONT:Phoebus_16x16.png]
[GRAPHICS_FULLSCREENX:0]
[GRAPHICS_FULLSCREENY:0]
[GRAPHICS_FULLFONT:Phoebus_16x16.png]and change them to this:
Code: [Select]
[GRAPHICS_FONT:Phoebus_16x16_Diagonal.png]
[GRAPHICS_FULLSCREENX:0]
[GRAPHICS_FULLSCREENY:0]
[GRAPHICS_FULLFONT:Phoebus_16x16_Diagonal.png]And then save the file.
Post by: Kuria on July 11, 2016, 12:57:16 pm
I think he was trying to do this. (https://github.com/DFgraphics/Phoebus)
Edit: Also is there any sorcery I can perform to get diagonal walls?
I'm so frustrated by this game. I wanted to try 43.05 on Saturday, but the arcana of installing Phoebus from the above link has totally escaped me.
I'm a smart person, and I have a background in technology. Could someone please write or link a step by step guide to installing this set of graphics into vanilla DF 43.05 for Windows? The Wiki instructions ( http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Tileset_repository#Installation "If the selected tileset requires modifications to the Raws, you will have to make those edits." ???) are simply not specific enough and I'm pulling out my hair.
K
Post by: jecowa on July 11, 2016, 01:53:37 pm
If the current version of Phoebus is for Dwarf Fortress v0.43.03, then compare Phoebus' raws to the vanilla raws of Dwarf Fortress v0.43.03 to see what changes the graphics pack makes. Then you can make those same changes to the updated raws.
It's kind of tedious, but not too hard to do unless stuff gets renamed or moved around (which is confusing).
Post by: CLA on July 11, 2016, 01:56:34 pm
Could someone please write or link a step by step guide to installing this set of graphics into vanilla DF 43.05 for Windows?You actually need to do 2 things:
- Update Phoebus to the new version (or wait for someone else to do it)
- Install Phoebus
a) which raw files the phoebus tileset changes to look as intended (i.e. you compare 43.04 vanilla raws with 43.04 phoebus raws) and
b) which files were changed by toady between 43.04 and 43.05 - if any (i.e. compare 43.04 files with 43.05 files).
Then you apply the relevant vanilla changes (from .04 to .05) to the phoebus raws. You also need to look out for changes in the data/init/init.txt, by the way. Best starting point is file changes.txt in the vanilla DF directory - it's Toady's detailed changelog.
For example, comparing 43.04 to 43.05, you might notice a new crop could have been added to plants_standard.txt (or whatever it's called): You'd need to copy that entire entry from 43.05 to the phoebus raws.
Or, a tool had its properties changed. The Phoebus tileset might assign a different tile to that tool, so you'd need to copy the new item properties to the phoebus raws, without changing the modified tile back to default.
Installing after this is trivial: Just drop the copy of phoebus in your fresh vanilla DF installation and overwrite files when prompted. Then generate a new world and play.
Post by: Kuria on July 11, 2016, 03:38:37 pm
Then generate a new world and play.This helped some, thank you. Is it possible to update the graphics for an existing world/savegame?
Post by: CLA on July 11, 2016, 05:14:53 pm
Then generate a new world and play.This helped some, thank you. Is it possible to update the graphics for an existing world/savegame?
Yes, copy the raws to your savegame raws (/raws to /data/save/<your region>/raws).
Just using a 43.04 version of Phoebus for 43.05 (or more accurately the raws of .04 for .05) without making sure if it actually works might lead to some issues though, so at least make a backup copy of your save.
Post by: Kuria on July 12, 2016, 03:09:51 pm
(It worked.)
Thank you!!
Post by: Kaly2 on July 26, 2016, 03:49:40 am
I update phoebus to 43.05 myself, there is any way to share it with others? It's kind of boring task to update it, so I want to save their time.
Of course, I'm new at this, so may be there is some bug, but until now I didn't find any.
(Sorry for my english, I'm not native speaker)
Post by: CLA on July 26, 2016, 05:28:46 am
Just submit a pull request or become a member of the group.
Post by: Prismaa on July 28, 2016, 10:15:07 am
Post by: Kaly2 on July 28, 2016, 02:16:24 pm
Been waiting for this to update so I can play 43.05, I have no idea how to do it myself so :c
Sorry, I'm updating it now, it's my first and i'm not really sure how it's done XD
Post by: Kaly2 on July 28, 2016, 02:23:13 pm
https://github.com/DFgraphics/Phoebus/tree/Phoebus-43.05
Post by: Prismaa on July 28, 2016, 02:49:42 pm
Okey, here it is. You only have to download and drag to the DF 43.05 file (and click on replace files, of course)Thanks! Seems to work nicely so far.
https://github.com/DFgraphics/Phoebus/tree/Phoebus-43.05
Post by: Whiskey on July 29, 2016, 05:47:20 am
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Post by: jecowa on August 02, 2016, 12:38:42 am
I have a bug, and I don't know if someone else has it. My military squad refuses to wear the left high boot. Has anyone seen this bug?
They are really picky about what order they put on their clothing. It has to be sock, boot, sock, boot. If you try to do sock, sock, boot, boot, then they won't put on the final boot.
Post by: Kaly2 on August 02, 2016, 01:47:48 am
I have a bug, and I don't know if someone else has it. My military squad refuses to wear the left high boot. Has anyone seen this bug?
They are really picky about what order they put on their clothing. It has to be sock, boot, sock, boot. If you try to do sock, sock, boot, boot, then they won't put on the final boot.
And how I change the order of clothing? I don't how to put only one sock
Post by: jecowa on August 02, 2016, 02:46:38 am
The rules for uniforms are very complicated, and I haven't really messed with them any. Maybe you are reaching a permit limit or something?
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Armor
Post by: jecowa on August 10, 2016, 01:12:58 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/LFlM2q2.png)
I guess everyone likes this and is used to it. It just seems unusual to me.
Post by: PeridexisErrant on August 10, 2016, 06:45:25 pm
Post by: jecowa on August 11, 2016, 04:11:35 am
Post by: jecowa on August 15, 2016, 10:39:17 pm
Before:
Spoiler: current Phoebus TWBT text (click to show/hide)
After:
Spoiler: WIP Phoebus TWBT text (click to show/hide)
If you want to test it out, turn on TWBT and set this as your text font:
Spoiler: Bisasum/Phoebus 10x16 (click to show/hide)
If you are using the Lazy Newb Pack, it's probably easiest to drag it into your /LNP/tilesets/ folder, then open the Lazy Newb Pack and re-apply "Phoebus" to your save files, then go to the "customize" tab and choose this new tilesheet as your text tilesheet.
Do you think this change is an improvement?
Post by: Meph on August 16, 2016, 04:20:37 am
Post by: Chimerat on August 16, 2016, 05:05:55 am
Good find, nevertheless.
Post by: jecowa on August 16, 2016, 05:03:25 pm
might depend on the size of your screen and the resolution you play at.
I think zoom level plays a big part. I think many users with 16x16 tilesets probably play while zoomed in a bit (using the scroll wheel). I know I do. It would be helpful to have tilesheets made with larger tilesizes so these users don't have to zoom in so much. I would like to move all the old ones up to 20x20 so we could have maybe 12x20 text tilesheets, but that would be a long-term project. PeridexisErrant suggested a feature for the Lazy Newb Pack that would allow graphics packs to have options for different tile sizes. I think that sounds pretty awesome.
Post by: Pvt. Pirate on August 16, 2016, 08:31:58 pm
using LNP 43.03.r03 with TWBT and phoebus graphics.
Post by: jecowa on August 16, 2016, 10:13:53 pm
i tried the 10x20 font and it totally f***ed up the worldmap: nothing related to water was visible and everything had the same pitchblack background opposed to how it has been before.
using LNP 43.03.r03 with TWBT and phoebus graphics.
That's good to know. I had forgotten that the text font gets used for the map. It should work fine with maps once all the tiles are finished.
It's kind of good that the text font gets used for maps. On the bright side we can have maps that don't use bolts of cloth and cabinets. On the not bright side, the maps will be rectangular. Ideally the maps could have their own tilesheet, or maybe TWBT overrides can be used for maps?
These ones look like they are probably good choices to apply shading to for the maps (to make it look less like an ASCII pack and more like a graphics pack):
- ♠ (CLA shades this)
- ♣ (CLA shades this)
- Γ (capital gamma)
- ↑ (CLA shades this)
- ↨ (CLA shades this)
- ⌂ (CLA shades this)
- ▲ (CLA shades this)
- ^
- ~ (CLA shades this)
- ≈ (CLA shades this)
- ∙ (weird bullet)
- · (multiply dot)
- maybe the box characters? (maybe switch the double box characters to single so that they look better as rivers, and add some rounding)
Post by: Tallcastle on August 17, 2016, 03:14:53 am
Ideally the maps could have their own tilesheetI have to admit. I'm not as familiar with modding as i should be. i've never actually seen this done. (or at least i don't think i have)
Is it possible to make a graphics set just for maps and terrain?
Post by: Pvt. Pirate on August 17, 2016, 06:00:43 am
as long as text still is text and punctuation stays the same...i tried the 10x20 font and it totally f***ed up the worldmap: nothing related to water was visible and everything had the same pitchblack background opposed to how it has been before.
using LNP 43.03.r03 with TWBT and phoebus graphics.
That's good to know. I had forgotten that the text font gets used for the map. It should work fine with maps once all the tiles are finished.
It's kind of good that the text font gets used for maps. On the bright side we can have maps that don't use bolts of cloth and cabinets. On the not bright side, the maps will be rectangular. Ideally the maps could have their own tilesheet, or maybe TWBT overrides can be used for maps?
These ones look like they are probably good choices to apply shading to for the maps (to make it look less like an ASCII pack and more like a graphics pack):
- ♠ (CLA shades this)
- ♣ (CLA shades this)
- Γ (capital gamma)
- ↑ (CLA shades this)
- ↨ (CLA shades this)
- ⌂ (CLA shades this)
- ▲ (CLA shades this)
- ^
- ~ (CLA shades this)
- ≈ (CLA shades this)
- ∙ (weird bullet)
- · (multiply dot)
- maybe the box characters? (maybe switch the double box characters to single so that they look better as rivers, and add some rounding)
Post by: jecowa on August 17, 2016, 05:00:50 pm
Ideally the maps could have their own tilesheetI have to admit. I'm not as familiar with modding as i should be. i've never actually seen this done. (or at least i don't think i have)
Is it possible to make a graphics set just for maps and terrain?
I don't think so. It would be nice, though.
as long as text still is text and punctuation stays the same...
Yeah, text looking good is the main priority. Maps are probably second, unless there's something else I'm forgetting.
Maps should look a bit better now.
(http://i.imgur.com/BgHOwuZ.png)
Spoiler: TWBT text tilesheet (click to show/hide)
Took the tiny mountain idea from CLA.
Post by: PeridexisErrant on August 17, 2016, 08:24:46 pm
It's been on the wishlist for a while, but don't hold your breath - https://github.com/mifki/df-twbt/issues/4Is it possible to make a graphics set just for maps and terrain?I don't think so. It would be nice, though.
Maps should look a bit better now.Do they ever!
Post by: Heretic on October 30, 2016, 04:51:09 am
Post by: jecowa on October 30, 2016, 04:59:56 am
Was your save file created in Dwarf Fortress from a Lazy Newb Pack?
Post by: Heretic on October 30, 2016, 05:31:07 am
Post by: jecowa on October 30, 2016, 09:35:15 am
Post by: NullForceOmega on October 31, 2016, 10:21:36 pm
Post by: jecowa on October 31, 2016, 10:50:47 pm
Post by: NullForceOmega on November 01, 2016, 03:06:40 am
Post by: JimmyAgent007 on December 06, 2016, 10:39:21 am
Post by: Pvt. Pirate on December 07, 2016, 10:44:36 am
Hey, everyone. Im using this tileset for a webcomic I want to try out. However, Im having issues with the resolution of screenshots. Things look wrong when I resize them. Ive got the sprites easy enough but objects, walls, wood, and all sorts of things are kind of off. Anyone have good screenshots 1:1 ratio that dont need to be resized? I dont want to craft everything by hand, but a lot of objects dont have any colour in the tilesets.That's because not all overrides use the same item size. some are 16x16, some 24x24, while some even use 10x10.
So there will always be some that look blurry.
Post by: k33n on December 26, 2016, 05:37:23 pm
Hey, everyone. Im using this tileset for a webcomic I want to try out. However, Im having issues with the resolution of screenshots. Things look wrong when I resize them. Ive got the sprites easy enough but objects, walls, wood, and all sorts of things are kind of off. Anyone have good screenshots 1:1 ratio that dont need to be resized? I dont want to craft everything by hand, but a lot of objects dont have any colour in the tilesets.
Make sure you have up-sampling turned off, and realize that the game engine use two colours and png transparency to create the tiles displayed on the screen.
Also, not to be blunt, but you better friggin well be willing to craft everything by hand if you want to make a comic.
Post by: JimmyAgent007 on January 03, 2017, 08:38:26 am
Make sure you have up-sampling turned off, and realize that the game engine use two colours and png transparency to create the tiles displayed on the screen.
Also, not to be blunt, but you better friggin well be willing to craft everything by hand if you want to make a comic.
Good call on the up-sampling. I will look into that. I get that I will need to do everything by hand, I just wanted to use screenshots for the backgrounds and maps, then put the sprites in later. My issue is with the scaling, different screens at different resolutions, things didnt line up right.
Post by: jocke the beast on January 03, 2017, 09:15:55 am
I love Phoebus graphics and now I'm wondering if it's possible to play the latest version of DF with Phoebus with the TWBT-text (better looking clean text) and only that? I don't wan't z-level rendering just plain old Phoebus but with clean text. Possible? How to make it work?
Thanks!
Post by: PeridexisErrant on January 03, 2017, 05:57:23 pm
I love Phoebus graphics and now I'm wondering if it's possible to play the latest version of DF with Phoebus with the TWBT-text (better looking clean text) and only that? I don't wan't z-level rendering just plain old Phoebus but with clean text. Possible? How to make it work?
Not possible, sadly - TwbT is required for the clean text too. (that's what the name 'Text will be Text' is about :))
Post by: jocke the beast on January 04, 2017, 03:05:16 am
Post by: Vordak on June 04, 2017, 11:33:34 am
Download links v0.2:
link Mediafire (http://www.mediafire.com/file/n6c5w2kllo9bqla/DF_Phoebus_Unupd_dwarf_0.2.rar)
link Dwarf Fortress File Depot (http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12960)
Spoiler: Presentation - Dwarves v0.2 (click to show/hide)
Installation- overwrite original Phoebus`file dwarves.png.
Post by: Vordak on June 09, 2017, 02:45:18 pm
Download mirrors v1.0:
link Mediafire (http://www.mediafire.com/file/2dqf2nj4mp85oqd/DF_Phoebus_Unupd_goblin_1.0.rar)
link Dwarf Fortress File Depot (http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12961)
Spoiler: Presentation - Goblins v1.0 (click to show/hide)
Installation- overwrite original Phoebus`file goblins.png.
Post by: Pvt. Pirate on June 12, 2017, 04:57:11 am
Post by: PeridexisErrant on June 12, 2017, 06:25:30 am
Post by: fbo on October 08, 2017, 11:58:50 am
For different tiles you should change this line in init/overrides.txt
Code: [Select]
[OVERRIDE:152:I:TOOL:TOOL::3:26]to
Code: [Select]
[OVERRIDE:152:I:TOOL:TOOL:17:3:26]Post by: jecowa on November 23, 2017, 11:13:09 pm
I present to your attention tiles of goblins. Redrawn most of the professions except children, enforcers and skeletons.
Download mirrors v1.0:
link Mediafire (http://www.mediafire.com/file/2dqf2nj4mp85oqd/DF_Phoebus_Unupd_goblin_1.0.rar)
link Dwarf Fortress File Depot (http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12961)Spoiler: Presentation - Goblins v1.0 (click to show/hide)
Installation- overwrite original Phoebus`file goblins.png.
These are great! Much more consistent design and lots of distinction between the various jobs. Are you cool with them being included with the Phoebus graphics pack on the graphics repo and being bundled in Lazy Newb Packs?
Post by: jecowa on November 24, 2017, 12:56:30 am
The 43.05 version on github (http://github.com/DFgraphics/Phoebus/releases) is missing the subtype (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=150753.msg6240054#msg6240054) for wheelbarrows in the overrides. This results in minecarts looking like wheelbarrows. :'(
For different tiles you should change this line in init/overrides.txtCode: [Select][OVERRIDE:152:I:TOOL:TOOL::3:26]
toCode: [Select][OVERRIDE:152:I:TOOL:TOOL:17:3:26]
Thanks for the Pull Request! Your changes are now merged onto the repo.
Post by: satan on November 24, 2017, 10:38:42 pm
Post by: Ultimuh on November 24, 2017, 10:47:52 pm
How long until the tileset is compatible with 0.44.02?Fixed your question.
Post by: jecowa on November 24, 2017, 10:56:28 pm
You can download it from here: https://github.com/DFgraphics/Phoebus/releases
Post by: Ultimuh on November 24, 2017, 11:11:19 pm
Either way, thanks!
Post by: jecowa on November 24, 2017, 11:37:46 pm
These seem to be the new professions in case anyone is interested:
* CRIMINAL
* PEDDLER
* PROPHET
* PILGRIM
* MONK
I'm not familiar with the museum stuff.
Post by: Vordak on November 25, 2017, 04:51:06 am
I am both hands for using my work in main Phoebus` tileset.
Post by: Hylum on November 28, 2017, 12:58:41 pm
Post by: Ultimuh on December 02, 2017, 02:50:04 pm
I'm not familiar with the museum stuff.
It's just the pedestals.
To store artifacts in.
Post by: jecowa on December 03, 2017, 11:22:26 pm
Spoiler: Phoebus with 4 tiles outlined (click to show/hide)
CLA has a new tile drawn for the Pedestal, we just have to figure out where to stick it.
Post by: King Mir on December 04, 2017, 01:05:13 am
Post by: jecowa on December 06, 2017, 12:52:29 am
I put CLA's pedestal on tile 23 (↨) since the vanilla ASCII version of it looks vaguely similar to the shape of the pedestal tile.
(https://github.com/DFgraphics/Phoebus/blob/master/data/art/Phoebus_16x16.png?raw=true)
These tiles might still be free for future use:
tile 5 - Normally quarry bushes, trees, and blossoms, but Phoebus' raws are configured to not use this tile. (testing planned)
Update: Tile 5 is definitely in-use for surface flowers (I was searching for "TILE" and missed everything with "GROWTH_PRINT")- tile 166 - "¿"
- tile 255 - "¿"
- and perhaps tile 38 - Normally "&", but I'm not sure if this is used for anything since it's replaced by creature graphics (testing planned)
Post by: AikonCWD on December 12, 2017, 03:34:46 am
Sorry, it's only updated to make its raw files compatible with the DF v0.44.02 raw files. It does not include graphics for the 5 new professions.
These seem to be the new professions in case anyone is interested:
* CRIMINAL
* PEDDLER
* PROPHET
* PILGRIM
* MONK
I'm not familiar with the museum stuff.
May I help with this stuff? Do you need something like a designer to create those new dwarf bois?
Post by: jecowa on December 12, 2017, 03:44:33 am
Post by: AikonCWD on December 12, 2017, 03:46:53 am
Yes, you may help with this. It would be great to have a designer to make the new dwarves!
no problem, Phoebus is my fav tileset. Is there any tutorial that explains how I need to mod a tileset? Should I design the new dwarfs on a new file? Or just edit and existing png?
Post by: jecowa on December 12, 2017, 04:18:33 am
I can write the text files for your graphics if you don't want to mess with that part. And if the background image of the dwarves is making things difficult, I can add that too if you need.
Post by: AikonCWD on December 12, 2017, 04:35:27 pm
Putting them on a new tilesheet is good, but editing the existing one works too. Some good things about a new tilesheet is that we can keep all your contributions together in one folder, and the smaller tilesheet makes it easier to write the text file for it.
I can write the text files for your graphics if you don't want to mess with that part. And if the background image of the dwarves is making things difficult, I can add that too if you need.
(https://imgur.com/uNrm8t6.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/ScOPCOS.png)
Code: [Select]
graphics_aikoncwd_professions
[OBJECT:GRAPHICS]
[TILE_PAGE:AIKONCWD_P]
[FILE:aikoncwd/newprofessions.png]
[TILE_DIM:16:16]
[PAGE_DIM:3:2]
[CREATURE_GRAPHICS:DWARF]
[CRIMINAL:AIKONCWD_P:0:0:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[PEDDLER:AIKONCWD_P:1:0:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[PROPHET:AIKONCWD_P:2:0:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[PILGRIM:AIKONCWD_P:0:1:AS_IS:DEFAULT]
[MONK:AIKONCWD_P:1:1:AS_IS:DEFAULT]Don't know if I the TXT is ok, its my first time doing this. Hope you guys enjoy my designs. :D
Post by: jecowa on December 12, 2017, 07:02:47 pm
Post by: AikonCWD on December 12, 2017, 07:13:42 pm
These look great, AikonCWD! Your text file looks correct to me, and it doesn't freeze my game, so it's probably good. Your pull request is accepted.
So.. Where is my dwarf cookie? :P
Post by: Stardog765 on December 13, 2017, 09:27:27 pm
Thank you for your hard work!
I have a quick question just because I am OCD about stuff like this and I am sure someone here will know right away the answer.
When I build a Still Workshop for some reason now a days it looks like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/oh49Var.jpg)
But this is from an old version and it looked like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/rYuOJeq.jpg)
Is there something broke with workshops on the DF 0.44.02? I know its not just on Phoebus so I am not saying it is something wrong here just this is the tileset I prefer so I thought I would ask here.
Maybe something broken with my install?
Thank you much for any help and I am sorry for my OCD :)
Post by: jecowa on December 13, 2017, 09:34:41 pm
Post by: Stardog765 on December 13, 2017, 09:36:27 pm
Good I know im not the only one and a fix is in the works. I know it seems like such a little thing and I feel bad even about complaining but sometimes the simplest thing can drive ya nuts :)
Post by: AikonCWD on December 21, 2017, 06:57:46 am
(https://i.imgur.com/1TxFUOB.png)
Working now with humans, goblins and elves
Post by: se05239 on December 30, 2017, 03:07:23 pm
I am a pretty amateur modder and I have added a few new races and stuff. However, since they lack any graphics in the Phoebus graphics set they'll just appear as letters (like this https://gyazo.com/caab73a69177f66a891ab291398b9d77 )
How would I go about to give them graphics? I rather not give every profession a unique look if possible, just civilian/soldier graphics.
I really don't like it that they are just letters.
Post by: burned on December 30, 2017, 03:15:12 pm
How would I go about to give them graphics?
The wiki goes into detail about this (http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Graphic_set); you can also look at the set you're using and see how that was done.
I hope that helps.
Post by: se05239 on January 02, 2018, 10:04:16 am
How would I go about to give them graphics?
The wiki goes into detail about this (http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Graphic_set); you can also look at the set you're using and see how that was done.
I hope that helps.
I guess it does but it's way too much information and I am kinda discouraged from it. Having to learn a crash course in pixel art is kinda disheartening as well.
So much for believing in easy fixes.
Post by: CLA on January 02, 2018, 12:01:02 pm
How would I go about to give them graphics?
The wiki goes into detail about this (http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Graphic_set); you can also look at the set you're using and see how that was done.
I hope that helps.
I guess it does but it's way too much information and I am kinda discouraged from it. Having to learn a crash course in pixel art is kinda disheartening as well.
So much for believing in easy fixes.
You won't get around learning how to draw pixel art, but you could just use an existing graphic set and change the image to your race and replace the race name in the text file with the name your race has in the raws.
Delete the text with professions you don't want to draw (you can keep the graphics), but keep DEFAULT and STANDARD for your civilians.
Post by: se05239 on January 09, 2018, 12:07:25 pm
How would I go about to give them graphics?
The wiki goes into detail about this (http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Graphic_set); you can also look at the set you're using and see how that was done.
I hope that helps.
I guess it does but it's way too much information and I am kinda discouraged from it. Having to learn a crash course in pixel art is kinda disheartening as well.
So much for believing in easy fixes.
You won't get around learning how to draw pixel art, but you could just use an existing graphic set and change the image to your race and replace the race name in the text file with the name your race has in the raws.
Delete the text with professions you don't want to draw (you can keep the graphics), but keep DEFAULT and STANDARD for your civilians.
Is it possible to do like the default ASCII tileset is and have two different spites that change color based upon profession and if they're in military or not, or do I have to make something for each profession.
The custom race I've made for myself is kinda hard to just squeeze in a 16x16 spot and then it gets even worse if I should try make it each spite look like their profession.
Post by: CLA on January 09, 2018, 01:46:17 pm
Is it possible to do like the default ASCII tileset is and have two different spites that change color based upon profession and if they're in military or not, or do I have to make something for each profession.You can tell the game to either use the graphic as it is (that is, you give it color) or let the game decide the color (usually that means the visible pixels of your sprite are white or at least greyscale), which would result in what you want.
The custom race I've made for myself is kinda hard to just squeeze in a 16x16 spot and then it gets even worse if I should try make it each spite look like their profession.
The Graphic Set page on the wiki linked above tells you details. Look for AS_IS and ADD_COLOR, respectively.
So you have two possible solutions: either you draw one graphic, and write in the text file that all professions should use that graphic and color it automatically (i.e. they all point to the same coordinate and have ADD_COLOR).
Or, if for some reason that doesn't work as you want, you can draw one graphic, duplicate it below or next to it again and again and give them all different colors. Then you would write AS_IS and a different coordinate for each profession in the text file.
Another use case for the second option is if you don't want to write so much yourself and base it on an existing graphic set that has all the professions you want.
That way you'd have a minimum amount of work for both, writing the text file and drawing the graphic.
Post by: burned on January 09, 2018, 06:42:30 pm
Post by: surazal on January 16, 2018, 08:59:11 pm
I run Dwarf Fortress version 44.05 on Linux (64-bit) and I just unzip the Pheobus pack on top of it. I noticed that after 44.04 (and 44.05 right afterwards) was released, when I unzipped Phoebus on of it I saw that it came with some configuration changes to accommodate TWBT. All fine and good, but one minor problem I've noticed is that it's enabled variable-width fonts in both the main menu and in certain areas of the main game itself. The main problems I have with this is that 1) the fonts are often very small and hard to read compared with the regular text and 2) they don't always play well with the game itself. The variable-width text doesn't always render very well and doesn't align properly within the borders of the game sub-menus. Whitespace often overwrites other areas of the screen causing blank areas to appear where other text or game graphics should appear.
I think the best way to address this problem is to disable the variable-width fonts while still keeping Phoebus and TWBT enabled. Barring that, I'm open to disabling TBWT entirely, but again I'm not entirely sure how to do that either. I have tried changing the tilesets configured in the init.txt file both within the data/init and the data/twbt_init directories, but oddly they don't have any effect on the game itself. It seems like TWBT is overriding the tileset settings and rendering the variable width fonts and ignoring those changes. So, I'm kind of stumped. Ultimately, I'd prefer just the fixed width text if at all possible.
Below are screenshots of the main menu and the military screen within the game itself. Note how in the military screen chunks of text are missing in the right-most column. Sometimes the game refreshes and the text reappears but this can take anywhere between several seconds or even a few minutes.
(https://i.imgur.com/khkoYGm.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/86iCBss.png)
Post by: lethosor on January 16, 2018, 09:46:10 pm
Post by: surazal on January 16, 2018, 10:00:47 pm
What you're seeing is vanilla DF's Truetype feature, which can only be enabled in the 2D print mode (and similar ones like 2DSW). In other words, you do not have TWBT enabled, because that requires OpenGL (the STANDARD print mode), so Truetype and TWBT cannot possibly be enabled at the same time. To enable TWBT, change your PRINT_MODE setting in data/init/init.txt to TWBT.
Ah HA. That did the trick! Thanks for the quick reply! No wonder I wasn't getting anywhere; I was barking up the wrong tree. Much appreciated!
Post by: Firebird766 on March 05, 2018, 11:32:01 pm
Post by: jecowa on March 05, 2018, 11:41:18 pm
• Copy the contents of the /data/art/ folder into Dwarf Fortress' /data/art/ folder.
• Copy the contents of the /data/init/ folder into Dwarf Fortress' /data/init/ folder.
• Copy the contents of the /raw/objects/ folder into Dwarf Fortress' /raw/objects/ folder.*
• Copy the contents of the /raw/graphics/ folder into Dwarf Fortress' /raw/graphics/ folder.*
These last two steps will need to be repeated in the "raw" folders of any existing save files you have.
Then finally right-click to download this file (onLoad_gfx.init (https://github.com/DFgraphics/Afro-Graphics/raw/master/onLoad_gfx_Afro.init)) and place it in your Dwarf Fortress directory. Or actually you might have this file already if you downloaded it from the repo. It's just a text file that runs the "twbt unit_transparency 1" command to get the cool background for creatures feature of TWBT.
Post by: Firebird766 on March 05, 2018, 11:51:49 pm
Post by: jecowa on March 06, 2018, 12:43:32 am
Post by: Firebird766 on March 06, 2018, 07:16:16 pm
Post by: Baleur on May 26, 2018, 09:08:47 pm
It is my favorite pack by far. Feel free to try out my colorscheme if you enjoy more muted warm muddy colors.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: jecowa on May 26, 2018, 10:12:41 pm
Thank you guys soooooooo much for keeping this up to date.
It is my favorite pack by far. Feel free to try out my colorscheme if you enjoy more muted warm muddy colors.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
That looks good. Here's a couple of comparison shots of the Phoebus color palette compared to the Baleur-Vherid_Miskha-Bone color palette:
Spoiler: Arena Phoebus (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Arena Baleur-Vherid_Miskha-Bone (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Nature Phoebus (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Nature Baleur-Vherid_Miskha-Bone (click to show/hide)
Post by: Baleur on May 27, 2018, 12:12:34 am
But i've embarked in some biomes where the rivers have been darker blue. I tuned my color on an embark in a quite hot tropical area :D
Contemplating making the white less bone-colored, and the green / blue less yellow / turqoise.
Edit: yep, modified it a bit. It used to just be a merger of the above mentioned ones, but frankly i prefer it a bit more true to intended colors like this.
Greens a fraction less yellowish, cyans a bit less green, light grey and whites a bit brighter (makes snow look less like ash and text more readable)
Basically just 5 rgb value here and there tweaked, didnt wanna alter the aesthetic too much, but still not have temperate forests look like arid savannah.
Also dark reds fixed, wasnt even aware they were orange, at least now meat in the butchering workshop looks like meat.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: jecowa on May 29, 2018, 09:13:51 am
Side-by-side didnt realize how arid my green grass was, nor how turqoise the river was.
I always thought the default Phoebus colors were overly saturated. Yours looks closer to something I would have wanted. I've gotten kind of used to the Phoebus colors, though.
Greens a fraction less yellowish, cyans a bit less green, light grey and whites a bit brighter (makes snow look less like ash and text more readable)
I like the less yellow colors. Yeah, I think it's important to have good differentiation in the four black through white gradients. That's important for text stuff like making the selected item in the menu interface stand out.
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Post by: Baleur on May 30, 2018, 04:44:13 am
I'm curious, does this new github updated Phoebus pack have any compatability with the old configurator .exe that used to be included in Phoebus pack? I kind of miss the ability to choose exactly which stone texture or which map textures (for hills etc), and most specifically the smoothed wall textures, i miss the angled ones that look a bit more dwarven than the smooth rounded corners it defaults to.
Remember what i'm talking about? That old app that showed you an image of the texture atlas and let you pick various alternates.
But i suppose that would be even more work, unless the .exe could be updated to understand TWBT with the transparency.
Post by: Maul_Junior on June 30, 2018, 12:43:32 pm
But it's on the github.
Post by: firsal on July 11, 2018, 05:38:44 am
Post by: taleden on July 16, 2018, 09:56:57 am
Sorry about that. The TWBT content isn't installed by default anymore. It's so that the twbt version and non-twbt versions can have slightly different versions of the files that are better optimized for them. You'll probably want to override the non-TWBT versions with the TWBT versions.
I was wondering why my bins and up-down stairs were both generic X's when I could swear they used to look better, and was disappointed to discover that apparently as you say PE's starter pack no longer installs the TWBT version of Phoebus (or any graphics pack?) which seems really silly to me since it does include TWBT (and enables it by default, I think?)
Do you know what would have to happen to convince PE to revert that change? I like his starter pack but if I have to go copying directories around and editing text files by hand just to get the tileset to look as intended, that kind of defeats the purpose of the pack for me.
Post by: LeoCean on July 16, 2018, 11:05:15 am
The TWBT components are no longer installed by default on the repo. This is to allow TWBT to get the cool TWBT transparency features without making the pack look worse for non-TWBT users.
Here's how to install the TWBT components:This will give you dwarves and creatures without the background around them.
- Open the /LNP/Graphics/Spacefox/ folder.
- Copy & Paste \graphics\Spacefox to make a duplicate in case you mess up or don't if you never deleted the rar file it's easy to get back.
- Copy the contents of the /raw/art/ folder to the /data/art/.
- Copy the contents of the /raw/init/ folder to the /data/init/.
- Copy the "onLoad_gfx_Spacefox.init" file into the /raw/ folder.
- Launch the Starter Pack launcher, go to the Graphics tab, and double-click "Spacefox" and reinstall it into your saves.
It will let you see the floor behind most of the furniture.
It will give you a text font designed for use with Spacefox.
It will make the workshops look fancy again.
And lots of other stuff.
That but with phoebus. Somehow PeridexisErrant's DF starter pack does not mention on the front page any of that info or that it is not installed as default. So it really is pretty easy to miss it.(not that one reads that info..unless it's their first time. You'd need to know which hole to put it in.)
Meph's pack comes with twbt enabled however because without it, it'd be bad. But that is also why it is good.
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Post by: treehugger on September 29, 2019, 11:33:24 am
It's not obvious but all it takes is this:The TWBT components are no longer installed by default on the repo. This is to allow TWBT to get the cool TWBT transparency features without making the pack look worse for non-TWBT users.
Here's how to install the TWBT components:This will give you dwarves and creatures without the background around them.
- Open the /LNP/Graphics/Spacefox/ folder.
- Copy & Paste \graphics\Spacefox to make a duplicate in case you mess up or don't if you never deleted the rar file it's easy to get back.
- Copy the contents of the /raw/art/ folder to the /data/art/.
- Copy the contents of the /raw/init/ folder to the /data/init/.
- Copy the "onLoad_gfx_Spacefox.init" file into the /raw/ folder.
- Launch the Starter Pack launcher, go to the Graphics tab, and double-click "Spacefox" and reinstall it into your saves.
It will let you see the floor behind most of the furniture.
It will give you a text font designed for use with Spacefox.
It will make the workshops look fancy again.
And lots of other stuff.
That but with phoebus. Somehow PeridexisErrant's DF starter pack does not mention on the front page any of that info or that it is not installed as default. So it really is pretty easy to miss it.(not that one reads that info..unless it's their first time. You'd need to know which hole to put it in.)
Meph's pack comes with twbt enabled however because without it, it'd be bad. But that is also why it is good.
Hi. I do not get what I am doing wrong. I copied over the files and reinstalled the graphics in the twbt launcher(I tried both versions of the duplicate) But I get no difference. Still x's for stairs and bins...
Post by: treehugger on October 01, 2019, 08:02:07 am
Post by: jecowa on February 19, 2020, 02:23:39 am
(https://i.imgur.com/ie2IDT8.png)
Post by: clinodev on February 19, 2020, 06:24:12 am
If I were doing dwarven altars, I'd probably make them blockier and more substantial; a big thick slab on a massive rectangular plinth, but yours are perfectly satisfactory.
I hope he puts in stone altars, incidentally.
Post by: JEB Davis on February 19, 2020, 07:41:19 am
...snip...+1
If I were doing dwarven altars, I'd probably make them blockier and more substantial; a big thick slab on a massive rectangular plinth,
Post by: clinodev on February 20, 2020, 03:54:05 am
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* Okay, I admit I haven't seen anyone comment about this yet, but since you've just touched this new code, I wonder if we could get stone altars as well as metal ones? Leave the wood ones to the elves, of course.
I'll check the stone altars as well. I agree it's the most sensible material.
It might be worth thinking about stone altars as well. :)
Post by: Pvt. Pirate on February 20, 2020, 05:21:39 am
Post by: clinodev on February 20, 2020, 06:00:18 pm
i'd prefer a rather raceneutral altar - so that it can also look fitting when playing as human.
The one jecowa posted above is very reminiscent of alters for burnt offerings,
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The ones I'm suggesting are more reminiscent of stone altars, like this
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Post by: jecowa on February 20, 2020, 07:32:51 pm
i'd prefer a rather raceneutral altar - so that it can also look fitting when playing as human.
The one jecowa posted above is very reminiscent of alters for burnt offerings,orSpoiler (click to show/hide)which is appropriate, as currently there are only metal altars.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
The ones I'm suggesting are more reminiscent of stone altars, like thisor thisSpoiler (click to show/hide)which we may be getting, but they're all quite definitely human, historical styles.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
You can also make stone and wood altars at the carpentery and craftsdwarfery. I'm not sure about glass.
some more stuff:
(https://i.imgur.com/DnkTqoQ.png)(https://i.imgur.com/1AES0fA.png)(https://i.imgur.com/1zB970o.png)(https://i.imgur.com/qqqsP95.png)(https://i.imgur.com/5jiVR6z.png)
It's not exactly the same, but here's what I was going for:
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Post by: Pvt. Pirate on February 24, 2020, 06:32:51 am
i especially meant the decorations on them etc.
if it looked specifically egyptian or japanese, that might have been strange to be the altar for all races.
Post by: jecowa on February 26, 2020, 01:23:45 am
the top one doesn't look to specific human, dwarven or elvfish in style.
i especially meant the decorations on them etc.
if it looked specifically egyptian or japanese, that might have been strange to be the altar for all races.
Is this what you mean by the top one?:
(https://i.imgur.com/TYs5MFp.jpg)
Post by: UncleSporky on March 02, 2020, 02:24:10 pm
I play DF really sporadically, returning once every 4-6 years...
The last time I played was in Feb 2016, with the cutting edge starter packs of that time, which had just introduced advanced features of taverns, temples and libraries, with instruments and bookmaking etc. I had loaded up the old save to see what I'd been doing and brush up on the game again.
I'm playing now on the last stable release, linked from here, (http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=7622) which is 0.44.12-r08. I believe this is from 2018. I know the new "villains" update is out, but I prefer to play on the most stable release I can, so I'm fine with this.
However, I have noticed that the graphics (which is Phoebus default on both of them) are different between the two. That old cutting edge 2016 pack has better graphics in some ways than the newer one!
Old pack:
(https://i.imgur.com/ROLxpqu.png)
Latest stable release:
(https://i.imgur.com/1NECIvD.png)
Coffins return to zeroes, both floodgates and up/down stairs revert to a simple X, and farm plots look worse. There are a number of other differences visible too, like you can see the wheelbarrows, bins and forges are different.
Does anyone know why this might be? Like...was there some weird dispute over who owned the art and it got reverted at some point?
I looked through the art file folder and couldn't find those old better graphics anywhere. I don't know where the game is pulling them from.
Any ideas?
EDIT: I see someone had a similar issue a few pages back in 2017. (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=137096.msg7643618#msg7643618) Is this really a bug that has persisted this long...?
Post by: CLA on March 02, 2020, 03:12:22 pm
Phoebus isn't active anymore, by the way. The tileset is maintained mostly by Jecowa. Releases are here:
https://github.com/DFgraphics/Phoebus
Post by: UncleSporky on March 02, 2020, 03:25:48 pm
The upper screenshot appears to have TWBT enabled, a dfhack utility that adds a lot of graphical features. If you install the new version via the LNP, it should install it automatically, I think.
Phoebus isn't active anymore, by the way. The tileset is maintained mostly by Jecowa. Releases are here:
https://github.com/DFgraphics/Phoebus
TWBT is enabled by default, in its default mode, on both packs. Both of them are "out of the box" Lazy Newb Pack/Starter Pack.
DFHack readout when launching the latest stable:
(https://i.imgur.com/6BVhICO.png)
In the TWBT thread people are talking about running version 6.61 so it sounds like that is one of the latest versions.
Both launchers side by side:
(https://i.imgur.com/qiTDIGR.png)
Anyway I don't know where the failing is here primarily...maybe PeridexisErrant, maybe DFHack. I should probably ask in one of those threads instead, I thought it might be a graphic pack-related thing at first though. But I just think this would tend to be a pretty visible thing since it's completely default Lazy Newb Pack behavior for anyone who downloads it as of right now.
And I know Phoebus isn't active, that's why I said hey Pheobus peoples. :P Hey Phoebus maintainers, I suppose.
Post by: CLA on March 02, 2020, 04:11:39 pm
Anyway I don't know where the failing is here primarily...maybe PeridexisErrant, maybe DFHack. I should probably ask in one of those threads instead, I thought it might be a graphic pack-related thing at first though. But I just think this would tend to be a pretty visible thing since it's completely default Lazy Newb Pack behavior for anyone who downloads it as of right now.Oh sorry, I misread that.
And I know Phoebus isn't active, that's why I said hey Pheobus peoples. :P Hey Phoebus maintainers, I suppose.
Yeah, no idea. looks like it should work. You mighrated your save right? Maybe you were overwriting a file you shouldn't have or the new version is expecting a different folder/file structure. Try doing a clean install in a new folder without migrating your save. Start a new fort and try building a coffin and some stairs. That should allow you eliminate the save migration as cause.
Post by: jecowa on March 02, 2020, 05:16:02 pm
Post by: UncleSporky on March 02, 2020, 05:31:11 pm
Anyway I don't know where the failing is here primarily...maybe PeridexisErrant, maybe DFHack. I should probably ask in one of those threads instead, I thought it might be a graphic pack-related thing at first though. But I just think this would tend to be a pretty visible thing since it's completely default Lazy Newb Pack behavior for anyone who downloads it as of right now.Oh sorry, I misread that.
And I know Phoebus isn't active, that's why I said hey Pheobus peoples. :P Hey Phoebus maintainers, I suppose.
Yeah, no idea. looks like it should work. You mighrated your save right? Maybe you were overwriting a file you shouldn't have or the new version is expecting a different folder/file structure. Try doing a clean install in a new folder without migrating your save. Start a new fort and try building a coffin and some stairs. That should allow you eliminate the save migration as cause.
Initially I did not migrate my save and started fresh with default settings, and noticed the graphical difference. Then I migrated the old save to be able to demonstrate it side by side with the screenshot.
You might try double clicking Phoebus 16x while TWBT is enabled to reinstall the TWBT version of the pack. Don't worry if it can't install it into your save folder, we just need it installed into the data folder
I just did this and it didn't make any difference.
Has anyone else tried a fresh new default install of the LNP? The old stable and the latest alpha are the same way. But I understand that many people probably customize the game to their liking and don't use the packs.
I will probably ask in the LNP thread, thanks for trying some tech support but this doesn't seem to be the Phoebus pack's fault.
Post by: jecowa on March 02, 2020, 06:50:07 pm
Post by: UncleSporky on March 02, 2020, 07:09:45 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/rEVGqlp.png)
Post by: jecowa on March 02, 2020, 08:08:13 pm
Post by: UncleSporky on March 02, 2020, 08:45:41 pm
The data/twbt_art/ and data/twbt_init/ are already present in the pack. I just copied and pasted everything in those two folders into data/art/ and data/init/. Overwriting init.txt meant I had to reset a lot of the settings, but yeah, that fixes the graphics. I did not play long so I don't know if doing this copy and overwrite breaks anything else in the game or introduces bugs/glitches. I may only have needed to copy overrides.txt.
It looks like all or nearly all the assets that were missing were from _Items.png. This is present in the old pack's data but was over in the twbt_art folder in the new one. Looks like the old pack didn't even have twbt_art, it was all just already installed that way.
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
Post by: jecowa on March 31, 2020, 05:56:19 am
Download link: http://www.mediafire.com/file/h7s5fuhqslidcoc/Phoebus-Legacy.zip/file
More Windows Bitmap than ever before. Two scoops of Magenta.
Installation:
- Copy the contents of the \Phoebus-Legacy\data\init\ folder into your \Dwarf Fortress\data\init\ folder.
- Copy the contents of the \Phoebus-Legacy\data\art\ folder into your \Dwarf Fortress\data\art\ folder.
- Copy the contents of the \Phoebus-Legacy\raw\objects\ folder into your \Dwarf Fortress\raw\objects\ folder.
- Copy the contents of the \Phoebus-Legacy\raw\graphics\ folder into your \Dwarf Fortress\raw\graphics\ folder.
- And if you have any existing saves you want to use this with, Copy the contents of the \Phoebus-Legacy\raw\graphics\ folder into your \Dwarf Fortress\data\save\regionx\raw\graphics\ folders.
- And if the worlds of your existing saves that you want to use this with were created with Dwarf Fortress v0.47, Copy the contents of the \Phoebus-Legacy\raw\objects\ folder into your \Dwarf Fortress\data\save\regionx\raw\objects\ folders.
Works with normal SDL Dwarf Fortress too!
Post by: clinodev on March 31, 2020, 12:24:15 pm
Post by: Baleur on April 19, 2021, 01:12:36 pm
Ill try manually copying the twbt folder contents to art / init instead.
Using the LNP doesnt seem to properly copy those files.
Post by: DogsRNice on January 18, 2023, 11:19:37 am
This pack is basically the look I think of when I think about Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Immortal-D on February 25, 2023, 04:21:13 pm
Sorry for the necropost but are there any plans for someone to update this pack? (Not sure if the newest classic version supports this) Or port it to the steam version if that's possible.I have been given to understand that all the traditional tile sets will not work in 50.x+ due to the way that Premium rewrote the fundamental interactions for how graphics work. I do not know what would be involved in updating the old packs.
This pack is basically the look I think of when I think about Dwarf Fortress
Post by: DogsRNice on June 24, 2023, 10:03:45 pm
Sorry for the necropost but are there any plans for someone to update this pack? (Not sure if the newest classic version supports this) Or port it to the steam version if that's possible.I have been given to understand that all the traditional tile sets will not work in 50.x+ due to the way that Premium rewrote the fundamental interactions for how graphics work. I do not know what would be involved in updating the old packs.
This pack is basically the look I think of when I think about Dwarf Fortress
So I finally decided to look into this (mostly out of curiosity) and I'm pretty over my head looking into the files for both the vanilla graphics and the version of this hosted on github, a conversion looks like it would be a pretty big undertaking if anyone ever wanted to make one, not to mention the need for new graphics for stuff that's been added in vanilla...
Post by: Clatch on June 30, 2023, 08:17:55 am
So I finally decided to look into this (mostly out of curiosity) and I'm pretty over my head looking into the files for both the vanilla graphics and the version of this hosted on github, a conversion looks like it would be a pretty big undertaking if anyone ever wanted to make one, not to mention the need for new graphics for stuff that's been added in vanilla...
I figure it's only a matter of time before people start tearing that stuff apart to see how it works. ;)
,,, but gads... there's a whole lot more there now.
Post by: dirkzen on December 05, 2023, 12:18:06 pm
Folder structure has changed a bit more drastically than i'd realized.
Bit of a shame, this and Mayday were the only tilesets I really used much at all.
Post by: mikekchar on December 05, 2023, 06:50:57 pm
There is at least one person who has said that they will start a new graphics set for v0.50, but it's in such an early state that I don't think anything has actually been done :-) It's a big, big job so I don't expect we'll see anything usable for a year or so.
Post by: Aydjile on April 28, 2024, 07:28:34 pm