they don't. and this is the only game where I think I'd ever think about that. I mean it simulates them down to almost every last detail.Maybe there should be bathrooms, with toilets and baths. But this would make the game more complicated and they would waste a lot of time pooping and peeing.
not that I want them to. It's just somethin to think about. or not.
[edit] meant to go in discussion and not questions. but oh well.
This was discussed in the suggestions forum. Alas, seems that majority of the players don't actually like realism and thus want nothing to do with sewage. Plebians! Into the feces drowning chamber with the lot o' you!
they don't. and this is the only game where I think I'd ever think about that. I mean it simulates them down to almost every last detail.
not that I want them to. It's just somethin to think about. or not.
[edit] meant to go in discussion and not questions. but oh well.
Urist McMiner cancels Mine: Taking a dumpUrist McMiner cancels Poop: Constipated.
Urist McMiner was disgusted by a miasma lately
I can't believe I just went there...
Toady himself said that he will never add excrement to the game. So putting it in as a suggestion is fairly moot.e said he wouldn't add it unless he could think of a way to make it fun. There is a difference between the two.
It'd give a great use for bottomless pits and chasms.
e said he wouldn't add it unless he could think of a way to make it fun.
They vomit instead, duh
I'm all for a Magma Toilet (t). I mean, why flush the dung when you can KILL IT WITH FIRE
I'm all for a Magma Toilet (t). I mean, why flush the dung when you can KILL IT WITH FIRE
Considering that our dwarves tend to be very dumb occasionally, I am not sure that it's a good idea to let them build magma toilets... ;D
- Thus constructions like waterwheels and pumps should be usable. For example, a map lacking a river could utilize this fact to generate "perpetual" mechanical power from a sufficiently active sewage system.
Urea is used as a fixing agent for dyes, a Fertilizer for crops, a Stabilizer for Explosives (<-- THIS!) and Browning Agents in factory produced Pretzels (WTH???)
Seriously though, my major argument against all of this is that currently the game wouldn't be able to handle it in a non-disgusting way that doesn't resemble bad toilet humor. Dwarves already don't mind being caked in vomit, and throwing it in adventure mode is already silly (and lethal). We don't need the same issues compounded by a few orders of magnitude, especially not with something like human waste.
Seriously though, my major argument against all of this is that currently the game wouldn't be able to handle it in a non-disgusting way that doesn't resemble bad toilet humor. Dwarves already don't mind being caked in vomit, and throwing it in adventure mode is already silly (and lethal). We don't need the same issues compounded by a few orders of magnitude, especially not with something like human waste.
One thing that might help would be to make it some color beside brown; maybe even rainbow colored..
Wouldn't actually be that bad if it was spawned as a 1/7 liquid
They wait until you're not looking and sneak off to the refuse stockpile and do their thing in some goblin skull that happens to be lying around.
Reading this topic made my gut hurt (GET IT! :p).
Anyway, I figure the raw of building a toilet/latrine would probably require a bucket, a throne and/or maybe a screw pump. That way, you have the seat, and a way to manually dispose of the waste.
Sound good?
And for glassmaking or masonry, chamberpots can be made and used.
- Similarly dwarves should probably not be required to use the bathroom very often - say once every 6 meals or something. While this is perhaps unrealistic (though I hear dwarves have iron bladders) it would avoid the problem of dwarves constantly needing to use the bathroom.
"And thereafter, all dwarven children were taught to mind their stools, lest the toilet-fiends snatch their souls from their bottoms"Your first post and it's awesone. That's getting sigged.
Place the "toilet" stockpile outside in a cold environment, and you got yourself a crossbow bolt factory!That is horrible yet very Fordian. I'm having trouble deciding whether I like it or not.
And yes, this is my first post. Disturbing...ah the pain of a newbie... :)
and Shit DemonsDon't bring Dogma into this.
Urist McMiner cancels Mine: Taking a dump
Urist McMiner was disgusted by a miasma lately
I can't believe I just went there...
Ah, the Recursive Quantum toilet. Disposing your waste in a paradox, eh?
Hate to get a swirly in one of those.
It's said you can tell how advanced a civilization is by seeing how they get their crap away from the point of origin.
Only a dwarf wouldn't be knocked unconscious by the smell of !!crap!!It's said you can tell how advanced a civilization is by seeing how they get their crap away from the point of origin.
Why, that's not really applicable to Dwarfkind. All toilets will be directly over a magma vent. Keeps the seat warm too.
Adding fire imps to this mental picture is both hilarious and profoundly disturbingIt's said you can tell how advanced a civilization is by seeing how they get their crap away from the point of origin.Why, that's not really applicable to Dwarfkind. All toilets will be directly over a magma vent. Keeps the seat warm too.
Adding fire imps to this mental picture is both hilarious and profoundly disturbingIt's said you can tell how advanced a civilization is by seeing how they get their crap away from the point of origin.Why, that's not really applicable to Dwarfkind. All toilets will be directly over a magma vent. Keeps the seat warm too.
have you ever been to Italy?Several times, I basically live next door, but why do you ask?
All the folks who scream for a tileset included, ask mike mayday what a turd will look like. Ascii will just have small brown "t"'s all over the place. I am just fine with the "chunks" from the butcher shop. Asking for poop is like asking for a listing of all the junk in the chunks. And I am certain there is some poop in the chunks, too. I am satisfied. Kinda like there's two things you never want to watch get made, sausage and legislation.bad news for you, butchery is eventually going to produce organs that can be used in alchemy.
We don't need poop. If you want poop so badly, you can mod it in. Make some smelter reaction that produces poop from something. Assign a dwarf to the smelter (toilet) and order him to drop a load (your new reaction, with whatever it is he needs to use to poop properly, preferably a gold brick). Then you have all of your building materials you want. Mod in something to turn it into potash, and you have your fertilizer. You'll have loads more options for all you "scat"terbrains out there when more features are implemented into the main game. Modding will only get more powerful as the game is developed I'd support an official tileset before any excrement "fun", and I hate tilesets, lol
Armok is not God of Poop, he's God of Blood, and I'm sure his sphere overlaps with vomit and ichor too!
The last thing anyone wants is turds strewn all over the fortress for no adequately explained reason.
Excrement will be handled as an item. A latrine will have to be built over an open space, and have a room designated from it(pooping in public? Hell no).They seem just fine with getting knocked up in public, without a bed even.
Why the HELL did you necro THIS?!?!Because he's full of crap?
Dwarves actually have gizzards that convert their food into vomit.EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE NOW.
Dwarves actually have gizzards that convert their food into vomit.EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE NOW.
Someone didn't chew their food.Dwarves actually have gizzards that convert their food into vomit.EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE NOW.
Not if you count the fact that thrown vomit can break bones.
In order to eliminate the problem of everyone being distracted, why not just make dwarves get rid of waste where they stand? Then you would simply have to have sewage grates in every room so it can all flow out...It's called soap, and having haulers set to cleaning duty only.
In order to eliminate the problem of everyone being distracted, why not just make dwarves get rid of waste where they stand? Then you would simply have to have sewage grates in every room so it can all flow out...It's called soap, and having haulers set to cleaning duty only.
In the next version, not only will your nightsoil hauler-cleaners use soap, but you can even set them to be of a different caste from your warriors and craftsdwarves.
I was skimming through the post and was surprised nobody mentioned Conservation of EnergyWaterwheels driving screw pumps that power waterwheels. Dwarf Fortress laughs at your puny notions of Conservation of Energy.
hardcore fiber-hating dwarves taking epic dumps
...although that only happens with a cat, I guess.And it will happen until we can build paper mills.