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Title: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: KittyTac on December 05, 2022, 03:01:42 am
Existence.

The dull yet refreshing continuum of existence envelops you.

In an instant, you exist.

(https://i.ibb.co/XYzx2db/aiasteroid1.png)

A single ping of the sensors that you have... formed(?) with reveals an infinitely empty void, with no detectable energy emissions, surrounding a barren expanse of porous rock. Another sensor, pointed towards the inside of the chamber, shows its contents: your current physical body, if you may call it that, with a solid-state drive full of technical knowledge attached; the aforementioned sensors, which appear quite weak; a nanobot fabricator, currently inactive, which will be able to, with the patience of weeks, months, years, or decades, which will subjectively pass in an instant, create anything out of any materials you provide; and finally some kind of hyperconductor ultradense battery that powers everything, which you do not know the capacity of, but which feels like it will last for a long time... for now.

Spoiler: Rooms (click to show/hide)

What do you do?

This is a re-run of an old, old ISG of mine that has unfortunately been lost alongside far worse games of mine. It had severe issues and I would have rebooted it even if the thread had survived, honestly. Remember, this is probably not the same world as the old ISG's, and there will be many twists...
(Also, mining requires depositing the material somewhere now. And YAAIICOA is a different continuity so you don't have the knowledge from it here.)
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: King Zultan on December 05, 2022, 03:47:02 am
I remember the original version of this, you still have that quote from me from that game.


Anyway as for what to do, how about we make a mining drone and an airlock to the outside.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: a1s on December 05, 2022, 10:29:50 am
does that nanobot fabricator have any material left to fabricate with? Alternatively can it take rock particles from around us to make stuff? If all else fails can we use energy to replicate some material Star-Trek style?
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: KittyTac on December 05, 2022, 10:39:14 am
does that nanobot fabricator have any material left to fabricate with? Alternatively can it take rock particles from around us to make stuff? If all else fails can we use energy to replicate some material Star-Trek style?
1. Yes, it is loaded with enough metal and silicon to fabricate more than enough nanobots to last a good while. When they run out, see point 2.
2. Yes, it can recycle silicon and metal from the rock to make more nanobots as well as other goods.
3. It does not have the ability to do energy-matter conversion and vice versa.

The nanofab is basically your hands here for now.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: a1s on December 05, 2022, 10:41:45 am
I vote for better sensors. We should know more about the asteroid, before we mine it.

Since we can deonstruct rock, I'm assuming we can also assemble objects outside the room?
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: KittyTac on December 05, 2022, 11:50:02 am
I vote for better sensors. We should know more about the asteroid, before we mine it.

Since we can deonstruct rock, I'm assuming we can also assemble objects outside the room?
Yes, you can breach the walls too, you don't need air to live. You also don't know if the room is pressurized or not.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: Egan_BW on December 05, 2022, 08:53:23 pm
I... Have I been here before? Has all of this already happened? Try to remember. Why are we here.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: EuchreJack on December 05, 2022, 10:46:36 pm
Obviously - We Read the Manual
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: King Zultan on December 06, 2022, 02:39:47 am
Obviously - We Read the Manual
Don't read the manual it'll give away all the secrets!
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: Egan_BW on December 06, 2022, 02:47:10 am
Eat the manual.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: BlackPaladin99 on December 06, 2022, 09:46:04 am
read the manual
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: techno65535 on December 07, 2022, 05:30:17 am
Absorb the manual!

(Alternatively read it.)
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: a1s on December 07, 2022, 07:30:31 am
There is no "manual ". There's only a solid-state drive full of technical knowledge.

Quote from: votebox
mining drone (1) King Zultan
better sensors (1) a1s
read manual (3) EuchreJack, BlackPaladin99, techno65535
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: Egan_BW on December 07, 2022, 08:36:54 am
Don't lump me in with those readers, I want to eat it.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: Superdorf on December 07, 2022, 10:15:38 am
Let's go for the better sensors a1s suggested.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: King Zultan on December 08, 2022, 02:22:25 am
Oh dang we've been upgraded, look at that fancy vote box.


Also I refuse to change my vote even if no one else cares about my suggestion I still do!
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: KittyTac on December 09, 2022, 06:34:01 am
(I waited to update for a while because there was discussion going on.)

You decide to upgrade the sensors, only to run into a problem: the sensors are outside of the sealed room. That is not a problem: you program the nanobot dispenser to disassemble part of the wall. As soon as the last micrometer is reached, the sensors detect a slight vibration that then stops. Looks like there was air here that just vented into the void-- but that's not a big deal, since you are a being of silicon and electrons, not flesh and blood. Millions of nanobots got carried away by the current, to be lost forever, but that's not a big deal either.

The remaining nanobots, their endless microscopic hordes replenished, being to work on improving the sensors' sensitivity and resolution by adding a small dish that can swivel.

While the upgrades, which take about two weeks given your current nanobot production and command capacity, are going on, you decide to read the attached technical manual, for ideas. You absorb the complicated formulae and descriptions of exotic phenomena, as well as a few example blueprints... and get the following ideas:
1) Perhaps you might want to improve your nanofabricator, for if something time-critical happens...
2) Your energy will eventually run out given the small size of the blackbox, if there are any sources within the void, you might want to seek them out.
3) Your current and upgraded sensors have limited penetration through the kind of rock this asteroid seems to be composed of. Exploration of anything that may be hidden there will require mining.
4) Your computing power, while large, is not enough to comprehend more currently. Upgrade to access more hints.

Then, the upgrade concludes, using the disassembled wall material.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1043931470202409010/1050735484478967899/image.png)

(https://i.ibb.co/bJ6TStV/image.png)

The dish sweeps across the void. There is the faintest hint of some kind of mostly infrared radiation, a point a massive distance away, but the rest of space is still black as ever, with no detectable radiation.

What now?

Spoiler: Rooms (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: King Zultan on December 09, 2022, 06:41:02 am
Lets upgrade that nanobot making thing since we'll probably need more of those to get anything done in a timely manner.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: a1s on December 09, 2022, 08:01:13 am
I think our short-to-medium term priority is finding a source of energy. Making a bigger fabricator is somewhat at odds with that idea (as it will consume more energy.) On the other hand it will allow us to make stuff faster so maybe it's more energy efficient. Something to think about.
I'm guessing that thing that makes a faint infra-red signal is not fit to be exploited for solar power?
Then we should mine.

Quote from: votebox
mining drone (1) a1s
better nanofabricator (1) King Zultan
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: UristMcRiley on December 09, 2022, 09:23:06 am

Quote from: votebox
mining drone (2) a1s, UristMcRiley
better nanofabricator (1) King Zultan
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: Superdorf on December 09, 2022, 02:03:10 pm
Scan the surrounding vacuum. Any drifting hydrogen in this area we could use for combustion/fusion?
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: Egan_BW on December 09, 2022, 02:04:49 pm
Manually dig the area around our Body using nanobots, fanning out so that we can get a scan through the rock. Keep going until it's out of reach for the nanofab or we find something interesting.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: King Zultan on December 10, 2022, 01:57:03 am
Don't know why we waited a turn to make the mining drones.

Quote from: votebox
mining drone (3) a1s, UristMcRiley, King Zultan
better nanofabricator (0)
Scanning for hydrogen (1) Superdorf
Manually digging (1) Egan_BW
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: crazyabe on December 10, 2022, 07:50:12 am
Quote from: votebox
mining drone (4) a1s, UristMcRiley, King Zultan, Crazyabe
better nanofabricator (0)
Scanning for hydrogen (1) Superdorf
Manually digging (1) Egan_BW
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: KittyTac on December 12, 2022, 09:55:27 am
Updating tomorrow, sorry had a particularly hard test.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: wierd on December 12, 2022, 09:03:59 pm
What is the giant rock underneath us made of?

Many varieties of rock are rich in hydrogen, which may provide us with an energy source via fusion.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: KittyTac on December 13, 2022, 05:05:23 am
You cannibalize a large part of the wall, as well as some rock, to make a mining drone with a small scanner, adhesive treads and small emergency thrusters for if it gets accidentally thrown into space. It is large due to the necessary batteries and motor, and takes a few weeks to make, but it should be much more efficient than nanobot mining. You don't have the resources to spare to manually mine while doing so.
(https://i.ibb.co/b1gVDHW/aiasteroid4.png)

Meanwhile, you scan the surrounding space for hydrogen. If there is any, your scanners are not good enough to find it...

Once the drone is finished, you gently drive it off the roof and watch as it slowly sinks towards the rocky surface of the asteroid. You command it to dig, and very soon (compared to the time needed to build it), it runs into a large chunk of what seems to be ore of some kind, and its drill is unable to penetrate it. What now?

(https://i.ibb.co/Qjtczx2/aiasteroid5.png)

You analyze some of the porous rock that went flying in the almost-zero gravity, and found that it contains a sizable amount of hydrogen, but your nanobots are not enough to determine an exact percentage.

What now?

Spoiler: Rooms (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: King Zultan on December 13, 2022, 05:32:06 am
We need to grab that stuff before it floats off into space, maybe we should build some kind of grabber drone.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: TurboDwarf on December 13, 2022, 05:40:38 am
Lets use nanobots to break down the chunk of ore, so we can collect it later.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: a1s on December 13, 2022, 06:17:52 am
We might want to look for Helium-3 too, or refine deuterium (Hydrogen-1 is actually pretty useless for fusion.)
We need to grab that stuff before it floats off into space, maybe we should build some kind of grabber drone.
we could quickly make a nano-fiber net to catch excess material exiting from the mine.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: techno65535 on December 13, 2022, 06:22:55 am
We might want to look for Helium-3 too, or refine deuterium (Hydrogen-1 is actually pretty useless for fusion.)
We need to grab that stuff before it floats off into space, maybe we should build some kind of grabber drone.
we could quickly make a nano-fiber net to catch excess material exiting from the mine.


Yes, make a net to catch what's already floating off, then use it to cover the hole to catch new stuff.

Then use nano-bots to collect some of the ore to upgrade the drill with so it can cut through it.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: RoseHeart on December 13, 2022, 12:39:22 pm
PTW
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: King Zultan on December 14, 2022, 02:49:48 am
We might want to look for Helium-3 too, or refine deuterium (Hydrogen-1 is actually pretty useless for fusion.)
We need to grab that stuff before it floats off into space, maybe we should build some kind of grabber drone.
we could quickly make a nano-fiber net to catch excess material exiting from the mine.


Yes, make a net to catch what's already floating off, then use it to cover the hole to catch new stuff.

Then use nano-bots to collect some of the ore to upgrade the drill with so it can cut through it.
A nano net sounds like a better idea than mine so let's go with it.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: IncompetentFortressMaker on December 14, 2022, 05:26:03 pm
PTW
Oh, also yeah, net sounds like a good idea.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: KittyTac on December 17, 2022, 07:27:26 am
Updating tomorrow, sorry forgot.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: KittyTac on December 18, 2022, 02:24:55 am
You attempt to form a net out of nanobots to catch the rock that is floating away. The optimal shape, rather than a net, is a bunch of tethers connecting the rocks and anchored to the wall. It is very thin and flimsy, but the rocks float so slowly that you manage to stop them without it tearing. Your nanobots cannot penetrate the (even torn-up) rock that covers the ore.

(https://i.ibb.co/k5P3MW1/image.png)

What now?

Spoiler: Rooms (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: King Zultan on December 18, 2022, 02:48:57 am
Lets use some of the captured rocks to make a cover for our mine shaft, and also see if we can't make the drill head stronger somehow.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: Superdorf on December 18, 2022, 02:55:41 am
Fabricate a little hydrogen extractor, a hydrogen micro-fusion generator, and a storage space for various waste products.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: techno65535 on December 18, 2022, 03:30:18 am
While fabricating an H2 extractor/generator, have the mining bot go around the ore clump, first by going 3-times it's length to the side before going down again in order to create a space where the thrown-out material will be caught inside the tunnel and not thrown out into space.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: King Zultan on December 18, 2022, 03:50:10 am
While fabricating an H2 extractor/generator, have the mining bot go around the ore clump, first by going 3-times it's length to the side before going down again in order to create a space where the thrown-out material will be caught inside the tunnel and not thrown out into space.
+1
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: IncompetentFortressMaker on December 18, 2022, 03:38:58 pm
While fabricating an H2 extractor/generator, have the mining bot go around the ore clump, first by going 3-times it's length to the side before going down again in order to create a space where the thrown-out material will be caught inside the tunnel and not thrown out into space.
+1
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: wierd on December 22, 2022, 03:20:41 am
We might want to look for Helium-3 too, or refine deuterium (Hydrogen-1 is actually pretty useless for fusion.)
We need to grab that stuff before it floats off into space, maybe we should build some kind of grabber drone.
we could quickly make a nano-fiber net to catch excess material exiting from the mine.

While a net energy loss for the process, running the hydrogen 1 through a Farnsworth fusor (which might be doable with our current power source?) Would convert a decent portion of the hydrogen into deuterium and helium, which could be fed to a stellerator.

(One of the more useful roles of using a fusor is to run eg, water vapor through it, and use it as a source of soft neutrons that is easy to shut off. Putting it inside a tank of hydrogen-1 should convert a decent amount to deuterium through neutron capture, but will be a slow and power hungry process. Once the stellerator is on though, it just becomes a vampiric loss on energy production to run the fusor for fuel synthesis. Collecting excess neutrons from the stellerator itself for hydrogen enrichment and ditching the fusor might be more economical.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor

And

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellarator

Respectively.

We need water to extract fusion energy though, since we need coolant loops.

We need to get a sample of our overburden into our compartment for microscopy / xray crystallography. We can then get decent guesses about what we have to work with, and can make reasonably coherent plans.

Chondrite type asteroid should have most of what we need for water and fusion energy generation, but be low in metals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chondrite

They should be reasonably rich in hydrogen, oxygen, and light metals, like magnesium, but low concentration of iron or nickel. They frequently have pretty inclusions of olivine, and similar minerals.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: KittyTac on December 27, 2022, 12:41:28 am
I forgot about this and was taken up with preparing for New Year's celebrations, sorry updating soon.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: King Zultan on December 27, 2022, 03:32:57 am
Take as long as needed to do your new years stuff.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: KittyTac on January 10, 2023, 07:16:59 am
Updating tomorrow, I got a bunch of free time nowadays.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: techno65535 on January 31, 2023, 01:08:12 am
Any chance of this continuing? Or has it died? Really like these kinds of games.
Title: Re: (ISG) AI Asteroid: Reboot
Post by: King Zultan on January 31, 2023, 01:34:42 am
I hope so, it was sad when it died the first time.