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Finally... => Life Advice => Topic started by: Domenique on June 27, 2012, 05:02:17 pm
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Recently I found myself unemployed, because I finished school and that was pretty much my employer. So I went to the bar I usually go to and noticed that they're looking for waiters, so I asked the waiter if I, a guy with no expirience in waiting whatsoever, could work here, and after a little talk I found myself working there. For a day. The thing is, the waiter told me that the work hours are from nine to three. What he didn't tell me that the three he mentioned was, in fact, that he was talking about three o'clock in the morning. So I pulled off the day, worked through all the 18 hours, because I was promised that there will be some schedule for me so that there wouldn't be so many work hours. Yippy. Turns out, the work hours are 15 hours per day. Not nice for a waiter to run around all day with five beers and keeping that smile on his face. So finally I've decided to find out what was the pay, because I didn't want to ask the administration directly at first, because it was my evaluation day, meaning I wasn't get payed and might even not get the job, and found out that it was the bare minimum wage. So they were statisfied with my work once I've done the 18 hours and said to come at 9 next day. That giving me 6 hours to sleep, eat and get back to work. So I quit. My question would be, what is your expirience with work hours when you're straight out of school and am I being silly or spoiled for quitting such a wonderful opportunity to make dough?
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Those work hours are bordering on illegal, depending on where you are.
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Those work hours are bordering on illegal, depending on where you are.
Bordering? They're twice as illegal (max eight work hours here). It's that nobody wants a dude with no expirience, that's why most of my peers choose such shitty work conditions, unless their parents know somebody in this sort of bussiness. Illegal work hours and illegal paychecks are normal here. My employement would have been illegal as well.
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Yeah, it figures. Fresh grads get victimized a lot.
llegal work hours and illegal paychecks are normal here.
Where is 'here'?
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Yeah, it figures. Fresh grads get victimized a lot.
llegal work hours and illegal paychecks are normal here.
Where is 'here'?
Lithuania, la paradis de post-sovietique. Make no mistake, it's not like in Russia, but it's not exactly like in Denmark. Illegal employement was going down until the economic crisis in 2008, since then it became so normal that nobody even talks bout it like it's some phenomena, and that's never good for a starter in life.
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Yowch. I don't know much about Lithuania, but if it's anywhere like where I was raised... good luck.
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Yowch. I don't know much about Lithuania, but if it's anywhere like where I was raised... good luck.
Fun fact: it really does depend on how lucky you are. Thanks.
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This isn't uncommon in the restaurant business here in America. Servers often work double shifts and more than 12 hours a day at really busy restaurants. However, they almost always get an hour or two break between shifts. That's federally mandated, as is overtime.
Having worked a lot in kitchens, they're all cheap SOBs that will screw someone in order to bring down labor cost. If that means sticking the lowest paid employee with the most hours, they'll do it.
So whether it's illegal is down to Lithuanian law. But yes, I've seen and lived this routine at kitchens before. They're meat grinders, and you're the meat.
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This isn't uncommon in the restaurant business here in America. Servers often work double shifts and more than 12 hours a day at really busy restaurants. However, they almost always get an hour or two break between shifts. That's federally mandated, as is overtime.
Having worked a lot in kitchens, they're all cheap SOBs that will screw someone in order to bring down labor cost. If that means sticking the lowest paid employee with the most hours, they'll do it.
So whether it's illegal is down to Lithuanian law. But yes, I've seen and lived this routine at kitchens before. They're meat grinders, and you're the meat.
It's not like people put up with it here, when I came to work there about half were new guys and the other half was leaving. It's illegal to make you work more than 8 hours without paying you more, and we are talking about 18 hours, breaks are not allowed (though possible if you can get somebody to substitute for you). I'm just really not sure if I should stick to that job or maybe look for a better one, even if that means to stay unemployed for a while.
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Look for a new one. That work hours would turn you into a zombie.
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If the compensation isn't commensurate with the suffering, fuck 'em.
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Look for a new one. That work hours would turn you into a zombie.
The sad thing is that I can't find anything else, even to wash dished you have to have at least a year's expirience, presumably by officialy being hired by your mother to wash them.
If the compensation isn't commensurate with the suffering, fuck 'em.
Heh, I can say that while I'm still living with my mother, but once I'm out, I will have to take what I can get, and such expirience frightens me.
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Im becoming a network engineer, i will be getting calls in 2 am in the morning right after i slept for maybe 3 hours, and this is before i go into work.
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But in most places and most jobs you get a rest day after a shift. He doesnt seem to do.
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But in most places and most jobs you get a rest day after a shift. He doesnt seem to do.
I would get two days off for every four, ideally, but that's not always the case. For example if I have stayed for this week I would get only one day free in the whole week.
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My dad has been a train driver for about thirty years now. His hours are all over the place; it might be 10am to 6pm with a four day break, then it might be midnight to 11am constantly for a week. The job requires a rest period between long shifts though, and he gets paid pretty consistently regardless of the hours he works.
EDIT: Just noticed the last post date. Mini-necro, oops.
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I think this is a case of 'get "experience" and get out of that place!'
Yeah, that's pretty much what I did, I mean usually we are hired unoficially so we can lie our way into such jobs anyway, just now I have the actual expirience. Aaaand it's useless, I'll be getting a job in the capital, 6h/day, the pay is even better, and I can work at weekends if I want extra or I didn't work the full hours before. Sometime life smiles a bit after giving you a finger and shoving it up somewhere.