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[Kogut]

copy save, abandon, locate your place (R?) on worldmap - and you can check full list of civs.

[fervor]

copy save, abandon, locate your place (R?) on worldmap - and you can check full list of civs.

Oh, cool.  I didn't know there was a reclaim function that autofinds the location.  I thought I'd have to manually search, so I didn't even try.

5 of the 10 new civs are available on the map and my location.  Stranglers and Frogmen are there.  I guess I just need to be more patient, heh.

Always something new to learn when playing DF.

[rephikul]

copy save, abandon, locate your place (R?) on worldmap - and you can check full list of civs.

Oh, cool.  I didn't know there was a reclaim function that autofinds the location.  I thought I'd have to manually search, so I didn't even try.

5 of the 10 new civs are available on the map and my location.  Stranglers and Frogmen are there.  I guess I just need to be more patient, heh.

Always something new to learn when playing DF.

stranglers actually should come very early. usually in late 2nd year / early 3rd year

[schussel]

feel lucky .. unless there was a change i didnt make out, stranglers are a somewhat reliable and almost infinite source of food :>

[rephikul]

feel lucky .. unless there was a change i didnt make out, stranglers are a somewhat reliable and almost infinite source of food :>

Ya they make huge stacks of sinews and organ chops for my animals. I honestly think all of these guys should be made none butcherable.

[Kogut]

for animals?

[rephikul]

for animals?

Animals dont siege.

[JacenHanLovesLegos]

War elephants.

[rephikul]

War elephants.

Looking like an elephant, but still not an animal. As I said, animals dont siege. If they are intelligent enough to siege, they deserve some respects.

[Kogut]

Why it works this way:
2 years without sieges, then in one month
- E siege
- flying thing siege
- blendec siege
- naga siege (3 squads) and dark strangler siege (nagas killed dark stranglers)
- 3x goblin ambush (probably only detected by invader)
+ multiple S thing baby snatchers

By the way, is it possible to replace "vile force of..." with sth more creative?

[rephikul]

you probably have no strangler access, it's spring and you just got some migrants or you just made an artifact.

[mrtspence]

Why it works this way:
2 years without sieges, then in one month
- E siege
- flying thing siege
- blendec siege
- naga siege (3 squads) and dark strangler siege (nagas killed dark stranglers)
- 3x goblin ambush (probably only detected by invader)
+ multiple S thing baby snatchers

By the way, is it possible to replace "vile force of..." with sth more creative?

Not sure. It seems like it is hardcoded to specific races (gobbos>>>vile force of darkness, humans>>>the enemy have come, elves>>>curse all friends of nature), in which case it cannot be changed easily.

[darkflagrance]

Why it works this way:
2 years without sieges, then in one month
- E siege
- flying thing siege
- blendec siege
- naga siege (3 squads) and dark strangler siege (nagas killed dark stranglers)
- 3x goblin ambush (probably only detected by invader)
+ multiple S thing baby snatchers

By the way, is it possible to replace "vile force of..." with sth more creative?

Not sure. It seems like it is hardcoded to specific races (gobbos>>>vile force of darkness, humans>>>the enemy have come, elves>>>curse all friends of nature), in which case it cannot be changed easily.

Yeah, I haven't seen any tags that correspond to the different messages, to my knowledge.

(although, theoretically things like babysnatcher, tree_diplomacy, and other similar tags might be causing this relationship, so it might be manipulable. But still, the messages themselves are hardcoded.)

[fervor]

Yup.  After 2 years, all hell breaks loose.  You better be prepared or you're screwed.

Sometimes the armies attack each other.  Sometimes, they don't.  I haven't played enough (3 games so far with this mod) to tell.  They always attack goblins, though.  I haven't had to kill a single goblin yet since installing this mod (err..thieves, maybe).

I have a big pit trap where I usually end up dropping a ton of mobs.  Even though they are mixed races, I haven't seen any battles down there yet.  But I did play one small map (2x2) where several different sieges came at the same time and basically wiped each other out.  I only had a few mobs to mop up afterwards.

[darkflagrance]

Yup.  After 2 years, all hell breaks loose.  You better be prepared or you're screwed.

Sometimes the armies attack each other.  Sometimes, they don't.  I haven't played enough (3 games so far with this mod) to tell.  They always attack goblins, though.  I haven't had to kill a single goblin yet since installing this mod (err..thieves, maybe).

I have a big pit trap where I usually end up dropping a ton of mobs.  Even though they are mixed races, I haven't seen any battles down there yet.  But I did play one small map (2x2) where several different sieges came at the same time and basically wiped each other out.  I only had a few mobs to mop up afterwards.

They most likely attack goblins due to the presence/absence of speech capability via [INTELLIGENT] / [CAN_SPEAK]. However, I suspect that this is caused by a change introduced in the latest version that causes all races to have increased hostility.

I tried to avoid changing the default races in Fortress Defense so that the mod only added to the base DF install. Either way, there's no silver bullet solution that I can see given that either way inter-racial conflict is a high possibility. Maybe the next version of DF will eliminate this bug - after all, it's also causing goblin squads to kill their own leaders.