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Dwarf Fortress => DF Dwarf Mode Discussion => Topic started by: Tastysaurus Rex on November 24, 2010, 04:59:57 pm

Title: You want WHAT!?
Post by: Tastysaurus Rex on November 24, 2010, 04:59:57 pm
Local nobility demands that I make things out of slade. Slade, people. This strikes me as insane, but is this possible or am I better off just killing the fuckwad?

.....ok, you got me. He's dying either way. I still want to know if I can use slade though.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: Johnny Madhouse on November 24, 2010, 05:08:04 pm
It is impossible to use slade without modding.

Also, which version of DF was your world generated in?
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: Shurikane on November 24, 2010, 05:09:29 pm
Demand: Unobtainium item in throne room.

Urist McHunter cancels Make Rock Blocks: Exterminating the Na'vi.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: Tastysaurus Rex on November 24, 2010, 05:12:43 pm
Hmm, that's what I thought. Enjoy your Blind Cave Ogre safari, Baron Urist McDeadman!

Also this be .17. My first fort on it, actually. (I wanted to upgrade from .13 finally but heard some bittersweet things about .18.)

Demand: Unobtainium item in throne room.

Urist McHunter cancels Make Rock Blocks: Exterminating the Na'vi.
This made my day so hard.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: ISGC on November 24, 2010, 05:27:59 pm
while it is possible for slade to appear in their likes and dislikes, are you sure it doesn't say slate?
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: Tastysaurus Rex on November 24, 2010, 05:34:21 pm
while it is possible for slade to appear in their likes and dislikes, are you sure it doesn't say slate?
Trust me when I say that's the first thing I checked. He's asking for 100% clownrock.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: Lord Darkstar on November 24, 2010, 05:38:39 pm
He definately needs a magma bath.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: darkrider2 on November 24, 2010, 05:48:05 pm
if he wants it so bad, send him down there to get some himself...
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Post by: Gearheart on November 24, 2010, 05:55:16 pm
Ambassador magma patiently awaits his meeting with your nobles.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: Musashi on November 24, 2010, 05:55:59 pm
if he wants it so bad, send him down there to get some himself...
Hey, that should be my new policy. "What, you want pig iron bars now? Make them yourself! What, no charcoal left and we haven't found magma yet? Well, burn some goddamn logs, you know how to do that, right? What do you mean, no wood left? There, here's a training axe, go cut a couple trees on your own. Do not mind the siege of goblin lashers waiting outside, I'm sure you will do just fine. They won't even look at you if they don't feel threatened. Really."
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: darkrider2 on November 24, 2010, 07:17:47 pm
There, here's a training axe, go cut a couple trees on your own. Do not mind the siege of goblin lashers waiting outside, I'm sure you will do just fine. They won't even look at you if they don't feel threatened. Really.

Welcome to sigland
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: Tastysaurus Rex on November 24, 2010, 07:35:06 pm
Dropped his ass down a trapdoor into the walled-off caverns. It was there, as he dragged himself on two broken legs, that he fortuitously discovered a gathering of olm men that my military had overlooked. Found their spears, specifically. His heroic sacrifice will be remembered by all who give a shit.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: Hyndis on November 24, 2010, 07:47:13 pm
I once had a dwarf who liked adamantine, slade, clear diamond, and dragon bone.  :o



Please note that I used the terms "had" and "liked" which are past tense...
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: Blackburn on November 24, 2010, 08:18:21 pm
Should they even know slade exists? I doubt every world has had someone break into hell, write about the properties of the floor, make it out alive and educate everyone about it.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: darkrider2 on November 24, 2010, 09:49:28 pm
Should they even know slade exists? I doubt every world has had someone break into hell, write about the properties of the floor, make it out alive and educate everyone about it.

Dwarf Fortress players are exactly those kinds of people.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: Uzu Bash on November 25, 2010, 01:14:56 am
I thought this bug was fixed. My mayor likes slade but never demanded it in over six years.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: pixl97 on November 25, 2010, 02:01:05 am
When I first started playing (.12 I think) I had a mayor that wanted slade stuff. 'Course I didn't know enough about the game to realize it could never be met and people kept getting beat to death by the guard. Fort ended in a  pretty bad spiral.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: iyaerP on November 25, 2010, 02:16:35 am
My mayor is demanding a raw adamantine item. I am torn between giving him one, or just dropping him down into the HFS to go perpetrate his sillyness down there.

Cuz adamantine comes in veeeeerrry limited supply, and I don't exactly want to waste any that could be going to armour/axes.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: Zaerosz on November 25, 2010, 03:10:07 am
My last fort's mayor asked for a slade table.

I cracked open the circus and told him to go get it himself.

That fort didn't last too long.

Off-topic: Tastysaurus, where's your avatar from? Because it is AWESOME.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: Pukako on November 25, 2010, 03:45:56 am
Last fort went downhill when first mayor asked for Adamantine stuff.  Locked him in room and killed him.  Next one wanted Hungry Head Teeth.  Apparently they hang around the lowest caverns, and I hadn't even breached the first one.  Ditto way of dealing with it.  Third one liked millstones, but the damage had been done by then and the nasty downwards spiral had started....
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: GuudeSpelur on November 25, 2010, 10:02:11 am
Also this be .17. My first fort on it, actually. (I wanted to upgrade from .13 finally but heard some bittersweet things about .18.)

Um, .17 is exactly the same as .18, but with more crashes and bugs.  Most notably, the game will crash if you use any trap other than cage traps.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: Tastysaurus Rex on November 25, 2010, 02:16:03 pm
Also this be .17. My first fort on it, actually. (I wanted to upgrade from .13 finally but heard some bittersweet things about .18.)

Um, .17 is exactly the same as .18, but with more crashes and bugs.  Most notably, the game will crash if you use any trap other than cage traps.
....well shit. Up-Up-Upgrading then!

Off-topic: Tastysaurus, where's your avatar from? Because it is AWESOME.
I've had it so long I don't remember where the pic comes from. If you mean the guy himself that's Final Fantasy 6's Kefka.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: Uzu Bash on November 25, 2010, 03:01:55 pm
You know that a mayor can easily be replaced? With a few simple keypresses? And that you don't really have to kill them in response to this, so might as well admit you're doing it for the fun of it? And suck up the consequences rather than act like it's something that happened to you?
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: Zrk2 on November 25, 2010, 03:26:43 pm
You know that a mayor can easily be replaced? With a few simple keypresses? And that you don't really have to kill them in response to this, so might as well admit you're doing it for the fun of it? And suck up the consequences rather than act like it's something that happened to you?

Pfft!
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: UnrealJake on November 25, 2010, 03:34:09 pm
You know that a mayor can easily be replaced? With a few simple keypresses? And that you don't really have to kill them in response to this, so might as well admit you're doing it for the fun of it? And suck up the consequences rather than act like it's something that happened to you?

Killing mayors off is a way of life. You can't just shake it off with a few keypresses.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: Tastysaurus Rex on November 25, 2010, 03:36:09 pm
You know that a mayor can easily be replaced? With a few simple keypresses? And that you don't really have to kill them in response to this, so might as well admit you're doing it for the fun of it? And suck up the consequences rather than act like it's something that happened to you?
......hehehe.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: drvoke on November 25, 2010, 05:39:27 pm
Ambassador magma patiently awaits his meeting with your nobles.

Thanks for the new sig!
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: Encased in burning magma on November 25, 2010, 06:44:06 pm
You know that a mayor can easily be replaced? With a few simple keypresses? And that you don't really have to kill them in response to this, so might as well admit you're doing it for the fun of it? And suck up the consequences rather than act like it's something that happened to you?
......hehehe.

Yeah, he sounds like a chapter from a self-help booklet.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: iyaerP on November 25, 2010, 08:26:38 pm
You know that a mayor can easily be replaced? With a few simple keypresses? And that you don't really have to kill them in response to this, so might as well admit you're doing it for the fun of it? And suck up the consequences rather than act like it's something that happened to you?


Wait, really?

HOW?

This is my first fort to get past starvation/boozicide/first gobin ambush, and thus actually have some slight modicum of success. How do I re-mayor? Or alternatively, will just extracting strands satisfy him?
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: nomad on November 25, 2010, 08:37:15 pm
go to the nobles screen (n) and hit replace (r) and choose a new one, just like with your expedition leader (who became mayor once you got enough subjects)
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: Fayrik on November 25, 2010, 08:47:50 pm
Wait...
You can replace the mayor?

Am I the only one who finds this a little undemocratic?
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: GuudeSpelur on November 25, 2010, 09:00:16 pm
Hold on, hold on- you can't replace mayors.  They're elected, not appointed. 
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: Fayrik on November 25, 2010, 09:07:56 pm
I was going to say.
You can't just replace someone elected into office.
You have to kill them.
With Magma.

Then there's another election!
And we do it all again.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: kilakan on November 25, 2010, 09:14:46 pm
you know I bet dwarves don't vote for the guy they like, they probably pick out the bastard who everyone despises and votes him into mayor.... just like real life.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: Fayrik on November 25, 2010, 09:33:19 pm
-- they probably pick out the bastard who everyone despises --
They've picked up on our plan!
Dwarf Fortress is playing us!

...But that doesn't explain the ensuing tantrum spirals.

Also, is it just me, or can you entirely get around this problem by just not having a captain of the guard?
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: Tastysaurus Rex on November 25, 2010, 09:36:01 pm
Also, is it just me, or can you entirely get around this problem by just not having a captain of the guard?
You're absolutely correct, actually. No justice means mandates can go fuck themselves. That's boring though.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: madciol on November 27, 2010, 06:37:18 pm
Also, is it just me, or can you entirely get around this problem by just not having a captain of the guard?
I think people use this as setting up higher diffculty level. You find DF too easy? Use and allow this retarded insanity called "dwarven justice system".
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: ungulateman on November 27, 2010, 11:23:11 pm
Or the economy.

With coins.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: AngleWyrm on November 27, 2010, 11:55:15 pm
The economy went the same place that Dungeon Masters and Crutches and Wagons went: The attic to get mothballed into oblivion. I'de include the usefulness of blood/ichor in the list of things in the attic, but I'm not sure that even made it in the front door.

Which is different from stuff that was never delivered, but might be someday. Like prioritizing dwarf labors. Or poison effects. Just not much different. It's the subtle difference between "Sorry, we don't have that" and "It's on backorder."

Everything is possible, but not everything is probable, and only some things are actual.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: Pilsu on December 02, 2010, 03:29:17 pm
Gotta wonder why programming time was spent on the ownership mechanic if all it did was cause pain.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: racingspider on December 02, 2010, 04:14:43 pm
Because, like all things, the intended result did not match the actual results.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: greywar on December 02, 2010, 04:15:14 pm
Gotta wonder why programming time was spent on the ownership mechanic if all it did was cause pain.

Because DF players are heavily into pain.
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: twilightdusk on December 02, 2010, 05:29:30 pm
Because, like all things, the intended result did not match the actual results.

what was the intended result?
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: celem on December 02, 2010, 05:44:13 pm
well ownership is kinda pivotal in the dwarven economy.  ditto coins.

if yer new to DF (read 2010 versions and later) then search the wiki for the economy or try yer hand at a legacy fort, its a complex ball of wax and seemed to be shelved primarily due to coins eventually acting like cats and devouring your fps.

if you knew this and were being sarcastic....well.....see greywar's pain comment :)
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: Pukako on December 03, 2010, 01:54:04 am
Gotta wonder why programming time was spent on the ownership mechanic if all it did was cause pain.

Because DF players are heavily into pain.

I'm not sure of the etiquette, but I HAVE to sig that....
Title: Re: You want WHAT!?
Post by: Emily on December 03, 2010, 05:20:07 am
Should they even know slade exists? I doubt every world has had someone break into hell, write about the properties of the floor, make it out alive and educate everyone about it.

Demon forts are made of slade, and if you don't take the obvious schmuck bait, there's no demons in them.

The economy went the same place that Dungeon Masters and Crutches and Wagons went: The attic to get mothballed into oblivion. I'de include the usefulness of blood/ichor in the list of things in the attic, but I'm not sure that even made it in the front door.

Also functioning glass trap components.

Hold on, hold on- you can't replace mayors.  They're elected, not appointed. 

Well come on, why haven't you fixed that obvious bug with the raws yet?  ;)