Post by: Mephansteras on November 18, 2009, 11:17:28 am
Here is a breakdown of games running (or full), in the sign-up stage, and planned. I will try to keep it updated on a fairly regular basis.
Mods: Please look at the list of games running and in the queue before you start sign-ups for your games! We want to keep things manageable around here, and restraint on the part of mods is one of the best ways we have of doing that.
Also, please let me know when you put a game into signups, it starts, or ends so I can update this list. Putting my name in bold with the game that is being affected is the best way to do this.
Active Games Signups/Running:
- Gatecrash Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=182579.0)
Beginner's Mafia:
Games in Queue:
- Bring your Own Monster - Elephant Parade
Games on Hiatus
- BYOR 4 Made By Noob Edition (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=180223.0)
- BBBYOR Not Four (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=182140.0)
- Bring 1: Death Take Thee - TricMagic (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=182445.msg8533637#msg8533637)
Planned Games:
Post by: dakarian on November 18, 2009, 11:36:22 am
Name: Host : Status
Toon Mafia V: Toonyman : Active - Day 4
Don't Out Guess the Mod Mafia 2: Webadict : Active - Day 3
Bring Your Own Role Mafia - Pandarsenic Edition : Pandarsenic: Active - Night 2
Not So Beginner's Mafia 2: Dakarian: Active - Day 2
MSPA Mafia: Neruz : Active - Day 2
Kill Webadict Now: Dakarian Edition : Dakarian : Active - Night 1
Chosen Mafia : A_Fey_Dwarf : Active- Night 1
LCS Mafia: Leafsnail: About to start
BYOR Mafia 2: Webadict : About to start
Bastard(perhaps) Mod: CobaltKobold : Signups - 6/9
One Lynch Mafia : RedWarrior0: Signups - 3/9
Red Vs Blue Election Mafia: ExKirby - Signups 0/13
Speed Mafia: Chaoticjosh: Discussions
Did not count the Beginner games since those run on a different group of folks.
13 games on the table.
1 is nearing end game
6 are active and in their mid-early game
2 finished their sign ups and are about to start
3 are currently in sign ups
1 is in Discussion
As for myself, Kill Webadict Now's day phase works me harder than any anything I've done in a game so far and is using almost every feature I could think up for a game. Except for starting Beginner's Mafia 6 I won't be starting another game till KWN is over.
Oh, and I see why we have so many games: Everyone wants to host. Note that even if you limit hosts down to 1 game each (I was thinking of doing that) we'd still have 11 games and more hosts wishing to run.
Post by: webadict on November 18, 2009, 12:01:58 pm
I'll try to limit my games to BYOR's and DOGM's for now.
Perhaps I'll move back to Vote Mafia someday...
And I'll wait next time.
Post by: ExKirby on November 18, 2009, 12:08:56 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on November 18, 2009, 04:51:22 pm
Post by: dakarian on November 18, 2009, 07:54:10 pm
I have my hands full now that the RPers are back in Day 2 of KWN but we'll see.
Post by: dakarian on November 19, 2009, 08:59:35 am
Post by: Mephansteras on November 19, 2009, 10:48:46 am
Post by: Rysith on November 19, 2009, 10:57:50 am
Post by: dakarian on November 19, 2009, 11:01:12 am
- When signups start
- When the game has begun
- When the game ends
('about to finish' might be awkward since even at lylo, the game can last a few more days if the town recovers their stride)
No need to keep putting down what day it is or how many players are left.
Then along with that, we keep an idea on how many games we want active. Meanwhile, folks who want to host a new game would need to get on the que here. The game has to be on the que before it can go into Signups (though Discussion posts w/o the signup can go forward).
Post by: Leafsnail on November 19, 2009, 11:44:48 am
Post by: dakarian on November 19, 2009, 11:52:24 am
Similar for the 3 games that are in Sign Ups: If they are gathering people fast then no reason not to let it through. If it's having a hard time gathering enough people then it might be best to try to lower the requirement amount or just tell everyone you'll run it later and put it in the que instead.
Post by: Leafsnail on November 19, 2009, 12:30:43 pm
Warning: Setup may contain copious amounts of fun.
Post by: CobaltKobold on November 19, 2009, 01:08:54 pm
Post by: dakarian on November 19, 2009, 01:51:09 pm
Well, the game's started now. Good luck, Liberals ;D.
Warning: Setup may contain copious amounts of fun.
Should I be using The Italics?
*Dun dun DUNNNNN*
Post by: Org on November 19, 2009, 05:44:53 pm
Aztec Mafia
OR
Lightning Fast Mafia
Post by: Vector on November 19, 2009, 06:58:16 pm
Post by: Org on November 19, 2009, 07:41:23 pm
Post by: Vector on November 19, 2009, 07:46:50 pm
Tch. Like it will happen. Noone likes my mafia games enough to join them.
I might join one if I knew what it was about >_> Aztecs are pretty interesting, after all. I just happen to not be interested in spies or LotR.
Post by: Org on November 19, 2009, 07:48:24 pm
Huh.Tch. Like it will happen. Noone likes my mafia games enough to join them.
I might join one if I knew what it was about >_> Aztecs are pretty interesting, after all. I just happen to not be interested in spies or LotR.
They arent any gametype threads.
Post by: Vector on November 19, 2009, 08:00:26 pm
Huh.Tch. Like it will happen. Noone likes my mafia games enough to join them.
I might join one if I knew what it was about >_> Aztecs are pretty interesting, after all. I just happen to not be interested in spies or LotR.
They arent any gametype threads.
CobaltKobold started this one (http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=44314.0).
Post by: Archangel on November 20, 2009, 03:35:05 am
Post by: dakarian on November 20, 2009, 08:46:32 am
Meanwhile
Nice: Now we can not only tell when we can put our games up but also what games we may be interested in joining next.
Post by: Zai on November 20, 2009, 05:57:58 pm
Might start signups this weekend. Not likely though. I'll probably wait until after Thanksgiving.
Post by: CobaltKobold on November 20, 2009, 06:16:33 pm
Post by: Vector on November 20, 2009, 06:20:39 pm
This topic does not seem to be solving its problem. (6/9).
How's that? We've got too many games running, and when there starts to be space (i.e. when we have 2 or 3 games end, or so) we can all argue about who gets to go next.
Or, at the very least, people who are considering starting games will have a reminder that there's a lot of other people who would like to start them, too.
Post by: Pandarsenic on November 20, 2009, 06:44:11 pm
Post by: dakarian on November 20, 2009, 06:48:50 pm
Post by: Zai on November 20, 2009, 06:52:36 pm
Remember the rule: I'm permanently IN on all KWN and BYORs
Dak. You need to host a BYOR. Once you do, it should be obvious why I want you to.
Post by: Pandarsenic on November 20, 2009, 06:57:20 pm
MUCH SMALLER. ._.;
Post by: dakarian on November 20, 2009, 07:08:03 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on November 20, 2009, 07:35:33 pm
Post by: dakarian on November 20, 2009, 09:51:37 pm
Meph's first post has the truly updated list of games.. as informative as it's going to be at least.
I have my Karma Board which I so need to update.
Post by: Leafsnail on November 21, 2009, 05:26:22 pm
Post by: Vector on November 21, 2009, 05:28:35 pm
It won't be for a very good while yet, but I've got an idea for "Horrible Role Mafia" in which every player gets a negative role of some form or another and they have to try and work around these in order to win. It wouldn't be a bastard mod, although I'm fairly sure many would think me a bastard after seeing their roles :P...
Wow, I'd love to play that. Sounds awesome.
Post by: Pandarsenic on November 21, 2009, 06:04:11 pm
It won't be for a very good while yet, but I've got an idea for "Horrible Role Mafia" in which every player gets a negative role of some form or another and they have to try and work around these in order to win. It wouldn't be a bastard mod, although I'm fairly sure many would think me a bastard after seeing their roles :P...
Wow, I'd love to play that. Sounds awesome.
Post by: ToonyMan on November 21, 2009, 06:23:11 pm
Would the roles have forced traits on the person or is it more in the MODs control?
Post by: Leafsnail on November 21, 2009, 06:46:24 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on November 21, 2009, 06:48:59 pm
"SMALL NAME, BIG EGO HAAHAHAHA"
Or any other one like that, hehehe.
Post by: Leafsnail on November 21, 2009, 07:37:01 pm
I won't be able to share any roles with you since some become less evil if they're known, but you can randomly make up potential horrible roles on the thread.
Post by: CobaltKobold on November 21, 2009, 07:41:58 pm
I'll create a discussion thread if there's interest. Probably won't start the game till at least after LCS Mafia though.Do what I did, get a co-mod/sounding board who won't play.
I won't be able to share any roles with you since some become less evil if they're known, but you can randomly make up potential horrible roles on the thread.
Post by: Leafsnail on November 21, 2009, 08:01:31 pm
Post by: Zai on November 21, 2009, 08:02:53 pm
Sounding board?
You've never heard the term before?
In this case it's getting someone to give you a little feedback and input.
Post by: Leafsnail on November 21, 2009, 08:10:02 pm
Post by: dakarian on November 21, 2009, 10:56:46 pm
So in.
Post by: webadict on November 21, 2009, 11:30:22 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on November 22, 2009, 03:37:41 am
I've been thinking about doing bits of this for a while now. Also, based on an idea from Mephansteras in the Paranormal thread, it seems like it would be interesting to separate some of the supernatural ideas from Paranormal into their own game.
At it's core, Supernatural Mafia is the human town versus a monstrous mafia. The difference is that there is a wide variety of possible monsters to afflict the town with and the aren't necessarily going to work together.
Anyways, I've hammered out a fair few roles, some from Paranormal Ideas, some from mafiascum.net, some I made up on the fly. I cannot guarantee that it will be totally balanced, but I hope it will at least be fun.
Spoiler: Humans (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Monsters (click to show/hide)
Does anyone have any thoughts?
Post by: Pandarsenic on November 22, 2009, 03:42:05 am
Post by: dakarian on November 22, 2009, 04:18:56 am
Vamp won't have a chance to recruit. Typical games last only 3 days unless scum start dying.
Cubs makes the werewolf pack too powerful. Alpha is already immune to night actions and a dead cub gives them 2 kills as well!?
zombie is basically a cult with a small backlash at times. VERY powerful
Lich really is too powerful.
Demon sounds odd... unsure if he's too weak or WAYYYY too strong.
Overall, though, it's a weakish town against some very strong scum.
Post by: Leafsnail on November 22, 2009, 04:40:50 am
I suppose I'll help ya balance that, if you want. I wouldn't be able to take playing it most likely.Sure, I'd appreciate your input. Currently the roles are written more for evilness than balance :P.
Post by: JanusTwoface on November 22, 2009, 10:29:56 am
Spoiler: Answers and tweaks (click to show/hide)
Quote from: dakarian
Overall, though, it's a weakish town against some very strong scum.
Partially, that's the idea. With some of these tweaks, I think I've helped that. Another thing that helps the town is that there will be (at least) 2 different kinds of monsters that do not (generally) know about each other.
Most monsters will spawn as individuals (and are weak to getting randomly killed off quickly) although the Werwolves and Zombies will appear as groups. Therefore, there's the possibility of the monsters being slowed down by targetting each other.
Even more so, the Vampires, Werewolves, and Zombies have to kill each other off to win and the Demon has his own independent goal as well (he may actually want to help townies that he's collected already because a dead player's soul really doesn't help at all). Really, only the Ghost and Lich might want to help other monsters.
Also, one rule tweak would be banning PMs. There Werewolves and Vampires would have Quick Topics (but not the Zombies) and the Medium can use PMs with one dead player per night, but that's it.
How do you think the new tweaks affect things?
Post by: dakarian on November 22, 2009, 11:21:16 am
The other thread will be revived shortly.
Post by: ExKirby on November 22, 2009, 11:44:45 am
In "Stereotype Mafia", there's a ton of Stereotyped people (eg. Vampires, Old Ladies, Punks), who are split into two catagories-Good and Evil. Every role will have some sort of power. Some players' roles will "break the stereotype", and be on the opposite allignment, and possibly have different powers. Instead of winning with Town or Mafia, you win with your allignment-Good or Evil.
"School Mafia" bends the rules a bit. Instead of there being a Mafia, there is a bunch of Punks who have done heavy structural damage and graffiti vandalism. Players start with the keys to one room and a can of coloured spray paint. During the night, players can either use their night ability, lend their keys to someone else or spray a message to the room they have keys to. One of the Punks MUST spray something. During the day, players decide between them what story they will tell, and ultimatly, who they will blame. There will most likely be some other quirks in between, so...
Post by: dakarian on November 23, 2009, 07:25:07 pm
2. I believe I can put down my next game in the que.
BYOR Mafia: Just a Dot, Not a Lot
Post by: dakarian on November 23, 2009, 07:48:39 pm
A hardcoded limit perhaps (24 hours might be steep...48 perhaps) but NOT hammers.
Post by: Zai on November 23, 2009, 07:53:37 pm
1. Bay 12 people are the CRAZIEST PEOPLE!
wut
Explain, scum!
Post by: dakarian on November 23, 2009, 08:01:10 pm
Post by: dakarian on November 23, 2009, 08:28:32 pm
Two ways to do it.. one is easier, the other (to me) more accurate.
Easier: Hard coded number of games to run, including taking up signups. I believe 8 is our limit: that's when we started noticing the attendance problems. 13 is really causing issues.
More Accurate: Base it on the number of players the game starts off in.
i.e 8 games at 9 players a game = 72 players
Thus we can have more games if there's fewer playing in each game.
Note 1: MOST accurate would be if we kept track of players alive in each game, but that's asking for a lot of upkeep from Meph.
Note 2: All of the active games have a Starting Player count of 118
Post by: Rysith on November 23, 2009, 08:53:30 pm
Note 2: All of the active games have a Starting Player count of 118
That's a lot of people playing mafia!
I like the idea of players per game, since it lets smaller mafias start without preventing a larger game from going on. A reasonable compromise could be players alive in each game on a best-effort basis, so mods could PM meph and he could update it when he had time.
What we really need is an automated system. Maybe a communal Google spreadsheet or something of that nature?
Post by: Mephansteras on November 23, 2009, 09:14:52 pm
If someone wants to get that going I can put a link to it in the OP. If not, I'll do it myself. Probably tomorrow.
Post by: dakarian on November 24, 2009, 02:26:16 pm
With Toon Mafia V ending today, that'll mean about 3 more games will need to end before we let the next game through.
I have 3 people left in KWN so that's close to ending. All of the other games seem to still be fresh and new (or like NSBM, a good reason to not allow hammers).
Post by: Org on November 24, 2009, 02:27:44 pm
Post by: dakarian on November 24, 2009, 02:30:17 pm
Post by: dakarian on November 24, 2009, 09:08:59 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on November 24, 2009, 09:10:38 pm
Post by: Rysith on November 24, 2009, 09:15:57 pm
Post by: dakarian on November 24, 2009, 09:22:05 pm
Post by: Vector on November 24, 2009, 10:43:12 pm
Meh. I'm considering running something eventually, but probably not for a good long while.
Post by: Rysith on November 24, 2009, 10:51:45 pm
The numbers of games was too many when this was first made. I'm thinking we need 2 more games to finish. After that, we can take in the first proposal, which would be the Bastard(perhaps) mod.
Yeah, just getting myself in the queue.
Especially since Toon and KWN both just ended, so we'll start to make progress.
Post by: Zai on November 24, 2009, 11:09:09 pm
Oh. A good thing for the list to have is the mod of each game.
The numbers of games was too many when this was first made. I'm thinking we need 2 more games to finish. After that, we can take in the first proposal, which would be the Bastard(perhaps) mod.
Nononononononononono. This is what I didn't like about this possibly involving. If we do this, it'll be by who announced their game first, and problems of miss-communication ensue (see: my game not getting on the list, but others after it do get on; who goes first?). It'd be like taking a ticket in a line. But you don't even have to be ready to start to take the ticket; you just have to say you want to host a game. I have more problems with it, but can't organize my thoughts right now due to exhaustion. More tomorrow, maybe. Or just forget about it.
Post by: Vector on November 24, 2009, 11:54:14 pm
Nononononononononono. This is what I didn't like about this possibly involving. If we do this, it'll be by who announced their game first, and problems of miss-communication ensue (see: my game not getting on the list, but others after it do get on). It'd be like taking a ticket in a line. But you don't even have to be ready to start to take the ticket; you just have to say you want to host a game.
You have a very good point. I feel like it might be a good idea to have separate lists--i. e., games that are on the drawingboard, games that are ready mechanics-wise, games that have signups full and just need to be green-lit. Multiple lists might help in that manner, so that the actual queuing only happens when it comes to starting games that have finished the signup phase.
Post by: CobaltKobold on November 25, 2009, 01:04:40 am
The numbers of games was too many when this was first made. I'm thinking we need 2 more games to finish. After that, we can take in the first proposal, which would be the Bastard(perhaps) mod.I'm only one short now (8/9) - don't think I'll start 'til after the weekend, due to (last term's) term paper, though.
Post by: Vector on November 25, 2009, 02:16:46 am
The numbers of games was too many when this was first made. I'm thinking we need 2 more games to finish. After that, we can take in the first proposal, which would be the Bastard(perhaps) mod.I'm only one short now (8/9) - don't think I'll start 'til after the weekend, due to (last term's) term paper, though.
Sounds good. I'm looking forward to it. I think we should wait for another game or two to end before we do anything, though. Game-glut is scary.
Post by: Leafsnail on November 25, 2009, 11:07:26 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on November 25, 2009, 02:30:36 pm
Post by: Org on November 25, 2009, 04:16:37 pm
KWN II will go into signups for 13 after BYOR ends. I'm going to begin designing it now.That will be a while wont it.
Post by: Pandarsenic on November 25, 2009, 06:39:53 pm
Post by: dakarian on November 25, 2009, 06:55:09 pm
I mean, how do we decide when a game can go into signups? How do we decide when a game should be able to run?
If its not 'first come' then what's the criteria?
Post by: Vector on November 25, 2009, 07:13:42 pm
Games really shouldn't be allowed into signups until they've been cleaned up. I'd suggest a "mod-IC" system for those that are new to modding, because with fewer games we need to make sure the ones we do run are high-quality.
After that... I don't really know. Maybe on a "first to fill up signups" queuing basis, though this entire thing is getting kind of weird and reminding me of the brief stint I had in engineering.
Post by: dakarian on November 25, 2009, 07:44:29 pm
first to fill up signups means a system almost like what we have now, except a large batch of games stuck in 'limbo' when they are full but unable to start.
Perhaps using a polling system will work well. Have a poll with proposed games and the game with the most votes is next.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on November 25, 2009, 07:58:09 pm
Post by: Vector on November 25, 2009, 08:06:05 pm
I also think that there are some games I'd more readily sign up for if I knew the mod were being coached.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on November 25, 2009, 09:43:26 pm
Post by: Org on November 25, 2009, 09:44:08 pm
Shut up Org. >:[Oh lawdy. lawls
Post by: RedWarrior0 on November 25, 2009, 09:45:36 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on November 25, 2009, 10:04:52 pm
*Dying from running BYOR*Shut up Org. >:[Oh lawdy. lawls
Post by: dakarian on November 25, 2009, 10:56:45 pm
Do NOT let it die! Somehow, we WILL complete that game.
And it will be...EPIC!
Post by: Pandarsenic on November 25, 2009, 10:59:02 pm
Post by: Zai on November 26, 2009, 09:27:02 am
However. If we're doing that, then the list order needs to be accurate; my game should be before Horrible Role Mafia in the list as mine was announced first.
Post by: dakarian on November 26, 2009, 11:22:53 am
The game gets qued AFTER it completes its signups. Once it's qued, it's first come, first served.
So once a slot opens, the first to have been filled gets in.
As far as how to decide when a game can start signups...what do you guys think of that mod-IC system? I'm worried about having a few of us decide what games are viable and which aren't.
Post by: Leafsnail on November 26, 2009, 11:24:42 am
Post by: Zai on November 26, 2009, 11:39:20 am
As far as how to decide when a game can start signups...what do you guys think of that mod-IC system? I'm worried about having a few of us decide what games are viable and which aren't.
No. Just put it up to democracy in the way of people signing up to join the game; players can decide what to play and what not to play, as we've been doing for a while. If they don't think a game will be good, they won't join. If a new mod wants help, they can ask for it, but making it mandatory is just ridiculous.
Post by: dakarian on November 26, 2009, 12:39:09 pm
I mean, will it work to have 7 or so active games running and a good 10 more in the signup phase all waiting their turn? What happens when 5 of them get a full set of slots and then have to wait a month or more to be let in? Once at least some of the players who INed get bored and forget about it? Won't it be that much harder to decide when to join a game since you won't know if a game you signed up for will even start the same month?
There has to be a block.. something to slow the games down. Just having the signups slow things down doesn't work, since that's what we have now. Vector's idea is fine for the 'signups-to-active' stage but I we need something to slow down when a game goes into signups in the first place.
Post by: Mephansteras on November 26, 2009, 12:46:15 pm
The best thing, honestly, would be for people to limit the number of games they are in to a reasonable number. If you think your participation in a game is going to suffer because you're in a bunch of others, don't sign up for any new games until the ones you're in either finish or you die. After all, it's not number of games per se that is causing the problem with games dying to inactivity, it's the number of people who join games and then don't do much in them.
Of course, the sheer number of games people are trying to start is its own problem, since lots of good ideas never get enough players to start.
Hmmm...what about this? We add in another step, so we have Active Games, Games in Sign-up, and Pending games that are in the rules discussion phase. If mods will wait a bit before putting games into the sign-up queue, that'll slow down the sheer number of games to a more manageable group. Any game in the sign-up phase can start as soon as it's full, and people can watch the list to see when active games end so they can move up to the sign-up phase from the queue (which can be first-come first-serve).
Post by: dakarian on November 26, 2009, 01:01:49 pm
We can put the hard coded limit on which games can get into the signup phase, but once there the game can start as soon as it fills up.
hehe.. it's now to the point where I'd like to have a subforum in here. Then we can have this place purely for the games themselves and another subforum for game discussion. That way, they don't compete with each other for the front spot.
Well, for now, split the sections up: any game in Sign-up right now can just go ahead and finish signing up and gathering people. Games still in Discussion will have to wait until some of the other games finish up.
Hmm, speaking about the front page: there's 20 threads that can show on the front page.
1 is the stickied tutorial.
2 more are the Threshold list an Karma Board.
Then we have 8 active regular games and 2 beginner's mafias.
That's 13 threads on the front page right there. If we drop the 'gametypes' thread and just let people run separate Discussion threads on their games instead, we can have 7 discussion threads all sorting together which games they want to run.
So how does that sound? 8 games that are active or in signups, 7 threads of discussion along with the Karma and Threshold threads to keep everything in line?
Only trick is how to determine when a game InDiscussion can move on to Signups?
Post by: Zai on November 26, 2009, 08:32:41 pm
Post by: dakarian on November 26, 2009, 08:58:30 pm
1. Teaser discussion.. explain just enough (usually what what the players learn from the start anyway) to get people interested. For example, Kill Webadict Now had a good bit of discussion in various threads that went like this:
"Webadict is so unkillable, we could make a game JUST to kill him and he'll still get away"
"well, they'll just kill me no matter what."
"And if it's a Bastard Mod?"
2. If wanted/needed, a request from one or two others to see the setup so they can critique for balance/playability/fun. (optional)
3. Generate people wanting to play. That way you can start the startup portion without ending up with only 2 people joining :/.
Post by: Mr.Person on November 27, 2009, 09:38:35 pm
Post by: dakarian on November 28, 2009, 03:39:53 pm
As for the games on the planned list:
- Bastard(perhaps) Mod
- One Lynch Mafia
- Red Vs Blue Election Mafia
- Speed Mafia
- Paranormal 12
[/list]
The rest are actually in discussion mode or preparation:
Aztec, Supernatural and Horrible Role do need to be put into DISCUSSION threads so that a full form game can be made. Aztec has some ideas to be fleshed out. Horrible needs ideas on possible roles unless leaf is already ready with them now. Supernatural has role ideas and concept but is in serious need of balancing.
My BYOR is going to be standard so I just need the green light for signups. Werewolf is also sounding standard and, thus, pretty much ready. Zai claims that his Mafia, though a semi-bastard, is also about ready for the green light.
@Meph
Create 3 lists of games if you can:
1. Active games. Include both running games and games in signup. We'll just let a game with full signups go ahead and play. Bastard/OneLynch/Paranormal can go ahead when they want to and once they make sure everyone that wants to play does play. Josh needs to be asked if he wants to keep trying on Speed mafia but if he does he can go ahead and be active. Red and Blue needs to be dropped or put into Development.
2. Games in Que. Fully made games ready for signups but waiting for other games to finish. BYOR, Werewolf, and Zai's Mafia would go here, waiting for the other games to end. If Leaf is done making his roles then Horrible would go here too.
3. Games in Development. Games that people want to run but still need to develop, talk about and/or check to see if people are interested. Aztec, Supernatural, and my new King of the Mafia would fit here. So would Horrible if Leaf isn't done yet.
As far as how games go from one to the other, all games start on Development (whether they have a thread or not) and go into Que when the host feels that it's ready to run. Of course, that means, Standard games will get on que faster than others, though a Standard game should still be checked for popularity. For now we'll just let the host decide rather than have some drawn out acceptance process.
If we're going to do the "# of players max" deal then we need to list how many players are slotted for each of the Active games and how many max we'll want. Then, as openings show up, games in que can move to Active.
Only issue is what game in que will go into Active first. I'm almost tempted to suggest that poll again, made to allow people to vote multiple games, to show interest. When a slot opens, any game in que who's votes match or exceed it's requested # of players will start, with first come-first served in effect. Thus by the time the game had signups up, it'll not only be fully made but also KNOW it'll have folks who want to play. If a game sits in que over and over because it can't get enough votes of interest then it probably wouldn't have enough interested people singing up either.
Post by: Org on November 28, 2009, 05:20:21 pm
Aztec Tribesman/woman
You are part of the great Aztec Civilization. However, you realize that this civilization is starting to crumble! Help bring about the underminers of this great civilization.
Victory
Aztec Win
Active Powers
None
Passive Powers
None
Aztec Taxer
You are an Aztec Taxer. You are an obnoxious, selfish person, who takes money from everyone. While you are getting taxes, you can tell what they are.
Active Power
Tax!-You walk to a player's hut every night, and are able to tell if they are a Commoner, Noble, or Spaniard by how much they give you.
Passive Powers
Hated-You are hated by most of everyone! It takes one less vote to lynch you.
Aztec Priest
You are a beloved leader of the Aztec religion. You must prevent the fall of the civilization and keep the Azetcs within your faith!
-Ritual Priest
Active Powers
Mass Sacrificial Ritual-...And the best way to keep their faith together is sacrifices! LOTS OF THEM. You may sacrifice up to two players, however, you MUST sacrifice at least one a day. Each sacrifice pleases a god, and they will do something spectacular in return.
Passive Powers
Noble-To a Taxer, you will appear as a Noble
-Death Priest
Active Powers
Sacrifice-You may sacrifice a player. This sacrifice will have a different effect, instead of a normal Sacrifice Power.
Passive Powers
Commune with the Dead-You get to chat with the dead.
Noble
Aztec High Priest
You are the High Priest, highest in the gods' favor.
Active Powers
Honored Sacrifice-This sacrifice will have some sort of extra benefit, like effecting multiple players. Beware, because if you do not sacrifice, the consequences may effect multiple people.
Passive Powers
Noble
i will finish later.
Post by: dakarian on November 28, 2009, 06:19:44 pm
Okay, first I need some help with Aztec Mafia, to make sure the roles are fleshed out.
Aztec Tribesman/woman
You are part of the great Aztec Civilization. However, you realize that this civilization is starting to crumble! Help bring about the underminers of this great civilization.
Victory
Aztec Win
Active Powers
None
Passive Powers
None
Aztec Taxer
You are an Aztec Taxer. You are an obnoxious, selfish person, who takes money from everyone. While you are getting taxes, you can tell what they are.
Active Power
Tax!-You walk to a player's hut every night, and are able to tell if they are a Commoner, Noble, or Spaniard by how much they give you.
Passive Powers
Hated-You are hated by most of everyone! It takes one less vote to lynch you.
Cop with a weakness. That's just plain old painful. I like it.
Tweak: Hated has to fade away at lylo. Otherwise, the scum can just gangkill on one far too easily.
Aztec Priest
You are a beloved leader of the Aztec religion. You must prevent the fall of the civilization and keep the Azetcs within your faith!
-Ritual Priest
Active Powers
Mass Sacrificial Ritual-...And the best way to keep their faith together is sacrifices! LOTS OF THEM. You may sacrifice up to two players, however, you MUST sacrifice at least one a day. Each sacrifice pleases a god, and they will do something spectacular in return.
OHH, Now I see it. It's an Overeager Vigilante with a bonus. I like. I like a lot. Curious as to what could make killing 2 people worthwhile.
Passive Powers
Noble-To a Taxer, you will appear as a Noble
-Death Priest
Active Powers
Sacrifice-You may sacrifice a player. This sacrifice will have a different effect, instead of a normal Sacrifice Power.
Passive Powers
Commune with the Dead-You get to chat with the dead.
Noble
So this one is a normal Vig (noting the 'may' rather than 'must') with an effect. It also has medium powers. That right there might be tricky to balance since the killing+dead chatting alone is pretty pro-town.
Aztec High Priest
You are the High Priest, highest in the gods' favor.
Active Powers
Honored Sacrifice-This sacrifice will have some sort of extra benefit, like effecting multiple players. Beware, because if you do not sacrifice, the consequences may effect multiple people.
Passive Powers
Noble
Another Overeager Vig with a multiple player effect. Oh yes, a very high killing game here. hmm.. does that mean that a roleblocker blocking the High or Ritual Priest counts as a 'not kill' and thus cause Very Bad Things to happen? I hope so :D
i will finish later.
Right now you have a VERY vig happy game, which, as you said, is the point. Vigs are funny creatures: they are technically protown but can mess up the town as well. Make him overeager and it's very much a close bet of pro and anti townness.
Very interested to see how the rest will go.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on November 28, 2009, 07:55:26 pm
Second, another game I'm going to be doing after OL, Second Chance is entering development. Basically, all the roles are reviving of some kind, but I'll make it open setup.
Post by: Org on November 28, 2009, 09:02:24 pm
Aztec Tribesman/woman
You are part of the great Aztec Civilization. However, you realize that this civilization is starting to crumble! Help bring about the underminers of this great civilization.
Victory
Aztec Win
Active Powers
None
Passive Powers
None
Aztec Taxer
You are an Aztec Taxer. You are an obnoxious, selfish person, who takes money from everyone. While you are getting taxes, you can tell what they are.
Active Power
Tax!-You walk to a player's hut every night, and are able to tell if they are a Commoner, Noble, or Spaniard by how much they give you.
Passive Powers
Hated-You are hated by most of everyone! It takes one less vote to lynch you.
Aztec Priest
You are a beloved leader of the Aztec religion. You must prevent the fall of the civilization and keep the Azetcs within your faith!
ALL have
Victory
Aztec Win
-Ritual Priest
Active Powers
Mass Sacrificial Ritual-...And the best way to keep their faith together is sacrifices! LOTS OF THEM. You may sacrifice up to two players, however, you MUST sacrifice at least one a day. Each sacrifice pleases a god, and they will do something spectacular in return.
Passive Powers
Noble-To a Taxer, you will appear as a Noble
-Death Priest
Active Powers
Sacrifice-You may sacrifice a player. This sacrifice will have a different effect, instead of a normal Sacrifice Power.
Passive Powers
Commune with the Dead-You get to chat with the dead.
Noble
Aztec High Priest
You are the High Priest, highest in the gods' favor.
Victory
Aztec Win
Active Powers
Honored Sacrifice-This sacrifice will have some sort of extra benefit, like effecting multiple players. Beware, because if you do not sacrifice, the consequences may effect multiple people.
Passive Powers
Noble
Aztec Artifact Bearer
This Aztec holds a sacred relic of the Aztec religion. Dont let the greedy Spaniards take it!
Victory
Aztec Win
Artifact Keeper
Active Powers
None
Passive Powers
None
His Artifact has a special ability.
Aztec Celebrator
You are a Festival Celebrator! You dance and stuff.
Victory
Aztec Win
Active Powers
Dance!-You dance. It roleblocks someone.
Passive Power
None
Spaniard
You are one of the Spaniards, come to get the Aztec's gold.
Victory
Spaniard Win
Active Power
None
Passive Power
None
Traitor Aztec
You betray the Aztecs to join the winning team.
Victory Condition
Spaniard Win
Active Power
None
Passive Power
Aztec-You will look like a Commoner on inspection.
Hernando Cortes
You are leader of the Spaniards.
Victory
Spaniard Win
Active Powers
None
Passive Powers
Noble-You will look like a Noble on inspect.
Steel Armor-You are immune to night kills.
Post by: ToonyMan on November 28, 2009, 09:05:43 pm
Any vig will be able to identify the leader.
Post by: CobaltKobold on November 28, 2009, 09:11:35 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on November 28, 2009, 09:12:26 pm
You mean, need a kill-immune townie for them to fakeclaim.
Exactly.
Post by: dakarian on November 28, 2009, 10:27:50 pm
Okay, first I need some help with Aztec Mafia, to make sure the roles are fleshed out.As I said earlier: he'll be a liability in lylo. I love the Hated aspect to the cop, though, so I say just have the 'Hated' not work under Lylo conditions.
Aztec Tribesman/woman
You are part of the great Aztec Civilization. However, you realize that this civilization is starting to crumble! Help bring about the underminers of this great civilization.
Victory
Aztec Win
Active Powers
None
Passive Powers
None
Aztec Taxer
You are an Aztec Taxer. You are an obnoxious, selfish person, who takes money from everyone. While you are getting taxes, you can tell what they are.
Active Power
Tax!-You walk to a player's hut every night, and are able to tell if they are a Commoner, Noble, or Spaniard by how much they give you.
Passive Powers
Hated-You are hated by most of everyone! It takes one less vote to lynch you.
Quote
Same as said last time. Curious as to what the 'something spectacular' would be, especially on a 2-person kill but otherwise, I love this one.
Aztec Priest
You are a beloved leader of the Aztec religion. You must prevent the fall of the civilization and keep the Azetcs within your faith!
ALL have
Victory
Aztec Win
-Ritual Priest
Active Powers
Mass Sacrificial Ritual-...And the best way to keep their faith together is sacrifices! LOTS OF THEM. You may sacrifice up to two players, however, you MUST sacrifice at least one a day. Each sacrifice pleases a god, and they will do something spectacular in return.
Passive Powers
Noble-To a Taxer, you will appear as a Noble
Quote
Vig+medium = powerful. Perhaps make it so that he has to kill to get access to that chat for one day and make it just one of the effects (that is, killing someone MAY give you a one-day medium power but it may give you something else)
-Death Priest
Active Powers
Sacrifice-You may sacrifice a player. This sacrifice will have a different effect, instead of a normal Sacrifice Power.
Passive Powers
Commune with the Dead-You get to chat with the dead.
Noble
Quote
Aztec High PriestQuick thought if you aren't sure what the 'benefit' is: he has to sacrifice to allow any of the other power roles their abilities. Basically a 'kill to enable' role. His not killing anyone means none of the other powerroles will work.
You are the High Priest, highest in the gods' favor.
Victory
Aztec Win
Active Powers
Honored Sacrifice-This sacrifice will have some sort of extra benefit, like effecting multiple players. Beware, because if you do not sacrifice, the consequences may effect multiple people.
Passive Powers
Noble
So as to not make his death too Fail for town, if he dies, his 'work while alive' means all of the power roles work normally without him.
Though that does make him a negative role: so long as he lives he's an enabler, but if he dies, the roles can't be penalized.
Quote
Aztec Artifact Bearer
This Aztec holds a sacred relic of the Aztec religion. Dont let the greedy Spaniards take it!
Victory
Aztec Win
Artifact Keeper
Active Powers
None
Passive Powers
None
His Artifact has a special ability.
Quote
ahh there's the roleblocker. I had said before that perhaps the roleblocker hitting a priest will cause them to suffer to penalty of not killing. Now I'm thinking that's TOO harsh. Instead, if the priest if roleblocked then they gain nothing but lose nothing. For the High priest, just 'trying' is enough to avoid the penalty.
Aztec Celebrator
You are a Festival Celebrator! You dance and stuff.
Victory
Aztec Win
Active Powers
Dance!-You dance. It roleblocks someone.
Passive Power
None
Quote
Spaniard
You are one of the Spaniards, come to get the Aztec's gold.
Victory
Spaniard Win
Active Power
None
Passive Power
None
Traitor Aztec
You betray the Aztecs to join the winning team.
Victory Condition
Spaniard Win
Active Power
None
Passive Power
Aztec-You will look like a Commoner on inspection.
Hernando Cortes
You are leader of the Spaniards.
Victory
Spaniard Win
Active Powers
None
Passive Powers
Noble-You will look like a Noble on inspect.
Steel Armor-You are immune to night kills.
The issue everyone else has is that steel armor. I don't believe simply having a killable townie will do since the town will just try to kill him anyway. He needs a cover.
Make him Reflexive: not just immune to night kills but he'll kill anyone that tries to kill him. That way the person is dead and, thus, can't tell anyone what happened.
Yes, that means the Death Priest's medium powers can catch him, but by making medium status a 'chance' effect it helps to soften the power. Besides, with all of the deaths going on, the town needs all the help that it can get.
Overall, I like it. It's VERY kill happy so it'll need a large number of people depending on how many priests you plan on having around (Note if you have one of each and the Spaniards, that's 4-5 nightkills! Include the lynch and that's 5-6 dead on the first night.)
Just did the numbers.. first off, a typical game means the town can mislynch 2 times then end up in lylo. Since all of the priests will be killing at least 1 person and the spaniards get their NK you need to assume the worst case: that ALL kills fall on townies and no one stops them.
GIVEN THAT: To find the recommended number of players, you start of with 5 nonkillers (Townies, RBers, ext...anything that doesn't kill). For every Priest or Spaniard you add, put 2 more to the total number of players: that's your max. Your minimum is 2 people per Spaniard and 1 per Priest.
So 2 Spans and 2 Priests would mean 11-13 players. One of each PR would mean 14-17.
14 players would mean that, if everyone only kills townies, it'll be a 2 day game while if all of the priests die in one sitting it'll be a 3 day game. 17 players means a guaranteed 3 day game with a worst case of 8 days if all of the priests die early, you kill townies till lylo, then Spaniards afterwords.
We'll still need to figure out what to do for those 'blessings' that'll be nice but not overpowering but otherwise, I like it and I'd join it.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on November 28, 2009, 11:18:24 pm
Second, and completely ignoring first, how about no dead chat and the death priest communicates with one person each night? Night only and only one player at a time would balance it a little more.
Post by: dakarian on November 28, 2009, 11:40:14 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on November 28, 2009, 11:52:13 pm
Post by: Org on November 28, 2009, 11:56:36 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on November 29, 2009, 02:59:44 pm
Post by: dakarian on November 30, 2009, 11:22:32 am
Active Games:
* Don't Out Guess the Mod Mafia 2
* Bring Your Own Role Mafia - Pandarsenic Edition
* Not So Beginner's Mafia 2
* MSPA Mafia
* Chosen Mafia
* LCS Mafia
* BYOR Mafia 2
* Wizard Duel 3
* Bastard(perhaps) Mod (signups-full)
* One Lynch Mafia (signups-full)
* Paranormal 12 (signups-full)
Games in Que:
* BYOR Mafia: Just a Dot, Not a Lot
* Zai's Mafia
* Archangel's Werewolf
Games in Development:
* Aztec Mafia
* Horrible Role Mafia
* Supernatural Mafia
* Lights Out Mafia
* King of the Mafia
Post by: Mephansteras on November 30, 2009, 12:51:05 pm
Mods, please remember to post in this thread with the status of your games as they move through the three phases.
Post by: dakarian on November 30, 2009, 12:57:26 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on November 30, 2009, 01:06:10 pm
Post by: ExKirby on November 30, 2009, 01:20:18 pm
Post by: dakarian on November 30, 2009, 01:33:41 pm
The poll runs until an Active slot opens. At that point any game who's votes match or exceed the # of required players is allowed in. If there's more eligible games than slots then it's First Come.
Result: The poll will not only help put a priority on games that the players are interested in, but the poll serves as a sort of 'pre-signin' without a mass of sign-in threads or forcing the players to commit to the game. Almost like a FoS before a vote.
Post by: Org on November 30, 2009, 04:36:21 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on November 30, 2009, 04:38:32 pm
* One Lynch Mafia (signups-full)
Signups aren't full yet. I want nine people.
Post by: Zai on November 30, 2009, 05:20:16 pm
Aztec Mafia is now in its Dropped Stage, as I have no time.
=o This was going to be the first of your Mafias that I'd actually join.
But similarly, I don't have the time right now to host a game. So mine may be delayed if the time for its sign-ups to start has come before my situation changes. So perhaps drop Zai's Mafia into the "development" stage for now if we're using Dak's new model (which I actually do like).
Post by: dakarian on November 30, 2009, 06:33:36 pm
@Org
Aww.. Do leave the game in Development though so when you have time you can run it. I know I'd join as well.
Post by: Org on November 30, 2009, 07:35:45 pm
ZAI WOULD JOIN MY MAFIA?
Its the Apocalypse!
Post by: dakarian on November 30, 2009, 09:03:08 pm
Post by: Rysith on December 01, 2009, 12:57:57 am
Post by: webadict on December 01, 2009, 01:18:27 am
Post by: Mr.Person on December 01, 2009, 02:01:26 am
That's not to say small games aren't fun in their own way, they're just short and straighforward. That's also not to say that large games like BYOR Pand aren't fun, they're just really confusing, especially if there's very few PR and/or no extra kills. If you're going to run a 16+ player game, I strongly recommend adding third-parties of some sort or a second (or third?) mafia faction. It helps to make the game shorter and more dynamic. Don't go crazy, obviously, but feel free to try an experiment or two.
Dunno if I ever said this, but I'm still working on Duality Mafia. I just need to decide how to distribute roles in a fair way, and I'll be pretty much ready to go. That might be awhile, though, depending on how much time I decide to throw at the problem.
Post by: dakarian on December 01, 2009, 04:44:58 am
The setup can make a difference though. If it's a single scum with few NKs like a KWN then it needs to be smaller. KWN:DE only ended day 3 because 2 people were modkilled. OTOH, Aztec mafia can work with a large group since 6+ deaths per cycle can occur pretty easily.
For a typical 2-3 death per cycle game, yah 9-15.
Post by: dakarian on December 02, 2009, 03:22:30 pm
if not, then let's get Archangel's game or my BYOR up on the table.
(didn't mention one-lynch since that is actually active if Red were to actually get the sign-ups on the front page)
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 03, 2009, 07:22:13 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 06, 2009, 04:00:15 pm
Time to Infiltrate//Seek//Eliminate the Humans//Animals ^_^
Post by: Mephansteras on December 06, 2009, 04:43:34 pm
Post by: dakarian on December 06, 2009, 05:22:27 pm
Post by: dakarian on December 06, 2009, 06:45:20 pm
How are the other games? If they are running fine then perhaps we can keep 10 games running overall.
Post by: Leafsnail on December 06, 2009, 06:52:42 pm
Post by: Org on December 06, 2009, 07:09:06 pm
Btw, right now there's 10 games running. How do you guys feel about how the games are moving so far? I know Paranormal seems to be moving alright. NSBM is slow but I think its more disinterest than anything else.BYOR Pandar is moving slow.
How are the other games? If they are running fine then perhaps we can keep 10 games running overall.
I mean, god damn Pandar, what were you thinking?
Post by: ToonyMan on December 06, 2009, 07:10:17 pm
Btw, right now there's 10 games running. How do you guys feel about how the games are moving so far? I know Paranormal seems to be moving alright. NSBM is slow but I think its more disinterest than anything else.BYOR Pandar is moving slow.
How are the other games? If they are running fine then perhaps we can keep 10 games running overall.
I mean, god damn Pandar, what were you thinking?
People join his games. :-D
Post by: Zai on December 06, 2009, 07:12:21 pm
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 06, 2009, 07:29:37 pm
It's moving fast, really... the daycycle feels slow 'cause e'eryone's used to deadlines. If you feel the day end got slow, that's likely- I expect it to rejuvenate in the morning.Btw, right now there's 10 games running. How do you guys feel about how the games are moving so far? I know Paranormal seems to be moving alright. NSBM is slow but I think its more disinterest than anything else.BYOR Pandar is moving slow.
How are the other games? If they are running fine then perhaps we can keep 10 games running overall.
I mean, god damn Pandar, what were you thinking?
MSPA seems fine.
Beginner 6 and IMBMM(BM) feel ok, but I'd wait until after weekend to pass judgment.
Ugh, so many Js.
Post by: Vector on December 06, 2009, 07:39:11 pm
Btw, right now there's 10 games running. How do you guys feel about how the games are moving so far? I know Paranormal seems to be moving alright. NSBM is slow but I think its more disinterest than anything else.
How are the other games? If they are running fine then perhaps we can keep 10 games running overall.
I'm feeling like a lot of the games are doing much better than they were. That said, I'd still like to maintain a lower number, since I feel like some dying is already starting to happen (BYOR2 has been going quite slowly for two weeks or so).
In other words, until the next BM crop or two sprouts into fruit, I'd keep the game level roughly where it is at the moment.
Post by: Mr.Person on December 06, 2009, 08:24:46 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on December 06, 2009, 08:27:05 pm
Post by: dakarian on December 06, 2009, 09:01:24 pm
One Lynch has started up, so we're now at 10. So we're waiting for 2 more to end.
NSBM is at Lylo, so at most it has 2 more game days. Since it's back into deadlines (with a hammer option) it'll probably end this week.
LCS is about 2 days from ending, going by who's left and the Deaths Per Cycle.
So in about a week we should be able to let one more game through if we keep to 9 games at a time.
So now we get to the issue at hand: which first, BYOR or Warewolf? I really want to suggest that poll.
Post by: Vector on December 06, 2009, 09:07:09 pm
Post by: dakarian on December 06, 2009, 09:17:35 pm
I think we really need that poll though. Should I start a thread for polling qued games?
Post by: Vector on December 06, 2009, 09:20:08 pm
Could replace it with King of the Mafias. That's a 6p game that's not a BYOR.
I think we really need that poll though. Should I start a thread for polling qued games?
Why not stick it in here? This is really the place for that sort of thing.
Geez, I feel like we're either running a factory or ruling a small island nation at this point. I'm glad that we haven't needed the subforum policies thread for a while, though.
Post by: dakarian on December 06, 2009, 10:01:52 pm
But yah.
@Meph, Able to put King of the Mafias up in the Que then run a poll of all three? BYOR will require 11 while King of the Mafias will require 6. When a slot opens up, we'll run whichever gets more votes. if possible, allow people to vote on more than one.
Post by: Zai on December 06, 2009, 10:27:12 pm
if possible, allow people to vote on more than one.
If possible, allow people to vote on all of them. Or just as many as possible.
I'd prefer Dak's BYOR (=D) to go before KotM, but whatever. Put 'em both up in the poll.
I say
Post by: Vector on December 08, 2009, 12:37:58 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 08, 2009, 12:44:43 am
Just looking at the name warms the cochleas of my heart. Of course, it probably doesn't have a host of positive nostalgic memories for other people, but I'm probably going to be killing myself running it with the number of dayroles/nightroles/passive target switch roles and the fact I'll have to keep up on the loudspeaker system, so the name, she is for ME!
Post by: dakarian on December 08, 2009, 01:23:42 am
Post by: Vector on December 08, 2009, 02:36:30 am
KotM will keep players cycling through for a long time, which is good... but it's also small. So I'd say run that and another game, because KotM will keep appetite down while we're still balancing the bureaucracy around here.
I'd also suggest starting to loosen things a bit, because we have an entirely new crop of beginners that wants to play more games, and it'd be nice to get some more regulars around here. The BMs are bringing in newbs like whoa (especially recently), so it would be a good idea to have something for them to sign up for after finishing their first two games or so.
I've heard 3 separate accounts of people wanting to join more games but being unable to do so, which makes me think that more folks may be in a similar boat.
I think that awareness is helping with most of the players, and that the revamped karma system may help with the rest. That said, there's still some definite tweakery that needs to happen. My personal feeling is that karma/grade limits should start showing up for more games than BM. I saw a comment somewhere about how Lylo always ends up being full of lurkers; that's really not good. We should be holding ourselves to higher standards than that.
That said, we can't all run S-rank-only games all the time. I'm hoping that we'll end up with a lot of skilled mods who can make the right decision as to which level entrance need be for their games. I'm also hoping that we'll end up with a reasonably light entrance + replacement system for newbies in higher-level games--i.e., if B is a requirement, we can also let some N's in with the caveat that those who end up ridiculously over their heads will be replaced without karma loss/downgrading.
(Currently thinking about ZChris and Luke_Prowler in MSPA, for example)
Given the current number of players who aren't playing many games, I think it might be easier to get replacements.
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That was probably far more of an answer than you wanted, but hopefully it will help.
Post by: dakarian on December 08, 2009, 09:41:23 am
As far as rank requirements, I'm thinking a priority should fall on lower rank games. Aka: If there's a S-rank and a D-rank in que and only one can go in, D rank goes in.
Btw, very funny that we started this mess because of 8 games 'overwhelming us', got really worried over 12 games running and many were dead, and now we have 10 games going and we have players complaining about the lack of new games. :D
Sidenote, as far as N rank, I believe that the only rank they can't join is S rank only. As it stands, as long as the N rank asks for the sub, they won't go below a B (maybe B- if excessive) once they get the needed 5 games. If nothing else, they can always keep joining Beginner games since those always allow N ranks.
Post by: Mephansteras on December 08, 2009, 11:43:29 am
Post by: dakarian on December 08, 2009, 11:47:41 am
Once a game is allowed to start signups, they are Active so they can just play once they fill up.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 08, 2009, 03:26:20 pm
Did I call it Bastard(perhaps) originally? Bastard(Maybe) makes for a much sillier acronym:
IMBMM(BM(M))
Post by: Rysith on December 09, 2009, 01:22:37 am
Post by: Mr.Person on December 10, 2009, 02:37:06 am
Post by: Vector on December 10, 2009, 02:57:42 am
Spoiler: Notes on current list of games (click to show/hide)
Never mind. Yeah, it's time to start up a couple more, especially because IMBML(BM(M)) finished so quickly. I think Archangel's Werewolf has first priority, but I haven't seen him around for a long time (he didn't even show up D2 of BYORII); don't know if this is running or not. Anyone want to shoot him a PM?
Spoiler: Available planned games (click to show/hide)
I haven't heard any of the people involved for these say they wanted to retract their game, so I guess we should pick one or two of these to run next. Any preferences?
From a logical perspective, I'm thinking that we should go with:
* Aztec Mafia
* INFILTRATE//SEEK//ELIMINATE
Both have been heavily discussed and balanced. The hosts are free from other duties (other than GryphGlyph's BM, but that doesn't count). Both games have attracted quite a bit of interest, even long after their initial discussion. Further, both should be reasonably large.
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 10, 2009, 03:37:36 am
Aztec seems like it'll be quick, so I think going ahead with that would be fine.
It just doesn't feel right to run more games when +70% of the current ones are in their dying throes, or just barely recovering.
Post by: Mr.Person on December 10, 2009, 03:47:06 am
Actually, we need a list of games ready to go, so anybody willing to take sign-ups right now, please speak up. It'll take a little bit to get everything organized, which is good, since I'd kind of like another game to actually finish before filling out the sign-ups of yet another game.
It's too bad nobody is running a holiday setup. Just think, we could have Santa giving out coolio powers to the good townspeople while the naughty mafia get coal. Throw in a Kwanzaa themed serial killer and Hanukkah themed cult and you're set!
Post by: webadict on December 10, 2009, 03:50:08 am
Post by: Vector on December 10, 2009, 04:40:33 am
Eh. I'm not sure if more games now is the best thing for the board. As you noted, most games are relatively inactive; more games running parallel will draw activity from the few that cling to life.
Aztec seems like it'll be quick, so I think going ahead with that would be fine.
It just doesn't feel right to run more games when +70% of the current ones are in their dying throes, or just barely recovering.
That's the question--do people want to play Mafia, or not? If they do, then more games might be precisely the right answer.
Games are going to die, for all kinds of reasons. Yes, it sucks. Our goal here, I think, is to run a maximal number of polished, fun games with high activity. In this case, I think that doesn't mean that we should stop running games.
Take a look at the list again, and realize that games typically take a week or so to finish setting up. We've got 3/8 of our games in Lylo or about to hit it. We've got 2/8 more games that promise to be relatively quick/painfree. 2/8 are BYOR pits of death, which I don't think are losing activity by virtue of other games--it's the games in and of themselves that are losing the activity. Finally, 1/8 is running just fine and hitting its stride.
I think part of the problem is game quality, and the fact that BYORs are in low demand at the moment (except for in your court, Zai. Don't worry, I remember).
At the moment, I'm identifying a few key problems.
1. Disinterest in games (BYOR Panda, BYOR II, DOGMII, KWN:DE)
2. Lurkerdeath (MSPA, NSBMII, LCS)
3. Hammers (BYOR Panda, NSBMII)
4. Game size (BYOR Panda, BYOR II)
The main one that bothers me is the lurkerdeath, and I'm not entirely sure what to do about it.
Post by: Mr.Person on December 10, 2009, 05:58:21 am
Seriously guys, take the time to make the setups high-quality and balanced. Don't go crazy with the roles or rules, it's better if everything is balanced than to be crazy. I'm not saying any of the setups were bad, it's just some of them don't seem as polished or balanced as they could of been. They might of seem a bit, how you say, rushed. ToonyMafia IV comes to mind here. As much as I loved the roles in that one, the lack of a standard mafia nightkill bit them in the ass. KotM obviously has had its fair share of crazy unbalanced whatever the fuck, but that's to be expected. I DID pick Traitor, after all. There's also Meph's insistance of inserting broken-ass roles into Paranormal, but I digress. And of course, there's the original DF Mafia and Pirate Mafias. When will people learn the confirmable town-only roles in free-PM forum mafia are bad? It's not like the truth-telling roles helped out any.
But hey, we all make mistakes. I know I did, but just take some time and polish, polish, polish! Strongly consider what kind of affect the roles you're adding and rules you're messing with will cause. Specific things to avoid include easily-confirmable townies, 100% trustable inspection results, too many PRs/not enough townies and mafiosos, jesters, post-resiction roles, and roles that can do multiple things at the same time. I don't mean stuff like Jedi (although Jedi is a very powerful role), I mean stuff like X-Morpher. Used properly, X-Morpher can confirm a player's alignment 100% and potentially set the game up for a guaranteed win for the town. Both of those are bad enough on their own, but TOGETHER? That's bullshit.
Post by: dakarian on December 10, 2009, 09:12:04 am
9p, 1 Doc, 1 Mafia Roleblocker. Rest vanilla.
We need to get some practice with our day game.
Post by: Leafsnail on December 10, 2009, 01:14:04 pm
Put up Near-Mountainous Mafia into the cue.NSBMII confirmed that, it seems.
9p, 1 Doc, 1 Mafia Roleblocker. Rest vanilla.
We need to get some practice with our day game.
As for Horrible Role Mafia... I could probably put it into signups (it's been balanced with help from webadict) although I wouldn't run it till LCS finishes.
Post by: dakarian on December 10, 2009, 01:18:13 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on December 10, 2009, 01:21:29 pm
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 10, 2009, 05:51:43 pm
It's not like the truth-telling roles helped out any.But I love Oracularity!
Post by: Mr.Person on December 10, 2009, 07:19:38 pm
It's not like the truth-telling roles helped out any.But I love Oracularity!
100% certainty is very bad in mafia.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 10, 2009, 07:25:59 pm
I've said before- child's power is immense primarily as psych-weapon. (If Child was confirmed-child in a game then yes, that's OP.)
Child's no worse than Cop, else.
Post by: Mephansteras on December 10, 2009, 07:30:45 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on December 10, 2009, 07:31:37 pm
Which is the same thing, but people didn't like that for some reason.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 10, 2009, 07:39:38 pm
Shouldn't this be in the other discussion thread?
Post by: Mephansteras on December 10, 2009, 07:46:03 pm
Post by: Zai on December 10, 2009, 07:54:50 pm
Hey Meph. Don't Out Guess the Mod Mafia 2 is over. It died due to lack of maintained interest from all involved. So you can take that off the "Active Games" list. And King of the Mafia has started, so you can put that on the "Active Games" list.
Post by: Mephansteras on December 10, 2009, 07:59:23 pm
Post by: Org on December 10, 2009, 09:52:45 pm
Post by: Zai on December 10, 2009, 09:55:41 pm
It's too bad nobody is running a holiday setup. Just think, we could have Santa giving out coolio powers to the good townspeople while the naughty mafia get coal. Throw in a Kwanzaa themed serial killer and Hanukkah themed cult and you're set!
Do this. Now. This game gets priority over all but Dak's BYOR (so it gets started and hopefully somewhat midway through by New Year's).
Post by: Org on December 10, 2009, 09:56:23 pm
Post by: dakarian on December 11, 2009, 12:12:18 am
As for holiday.. maybe I can think up something involving gifting. Gotta let it spin in the head a little.
Post by: Mr.Person on December 11, 2009, 12:37:57 am
I think the game should start on the day of December 23rd. That way, when Santa does his Christmas Eve Night Gifting, he'll have had 2 days and a night-kill to figure the game out as much as possible.
Post by: dakarian on December 11, 2009, 09:49:02 am
Santa
Mall Santas
Grinche
Ebenezer Scrooge
Local: a congregation among Mall Santas before Christmas turns into an uproar due to rumors of the real Santa among the group. Real Santa? But he doesn't exist! What's next, the Grinch comes over to try to steal Christmas?
Mall Santa: no power townie role, but is given a role that they 'want' to be i.e.
You are a Mall Santa. Your biggest wish is to become a Doctor
May send a letter(PM) to any person asking Santa for that present.
(real) Santa.
In two days, you make your grand trip to give gifts to everyone, but you don't know who is naughty or nice and even if you knew, you don't know what they really want.
First off, the N/N list. Use your two days to learn about the others. Then, on Christmas Night, you will make a list to mark who you think is naughty or nice. Naughty people get coal (nothing) while Nice people get a present.
As far as what gifts to give, the others are sending letters around trying to reach you. If you receive one you will give that person the give (role) they ask for. Everyone else will be given a generic random one-shot gift.
Though try not to die. If you do, everyone will morn you for the following day. If you die before you can make your trip, well, then no one will be given anything!
Grinch (may be more than one)
The mafia (group). At night you can kill a player. Along with that, you learned that the real Santa is out there giving gifts and the others are trying to send Letters out. Go ahead and join in. The others have a specific role they want but you can ask for anything so long as its believable. Maybe the fool will give you something.
But what if someone gives YOU a letter, thinking you're Santa. Well , JOY! You have two options:
- you can Watch and see what Santa gives them or
- you can Steal, thus taking whatever Santa gives and claiming it for yourself.
You get to use everything you Steal ON TOP OF YOUR MAFIAKILL (even all at once), but be wary: the poor sap won't see you but will know their gift was stolen, and may figure out who took it.
(yes, Steal Vig, and boom, double kills.)
Scrooge
You hate this Christmas mess but that ghost of Jacob Marley told you to come here. He said specifically "Write at least one letter a day, but no more than two. After the second day, another Ghost will appear to guide you."
You don't like ghosts but you don't like angry ghosts so you will follow. Send one or two letters asking for (Rolename, i.e. Doctor). Why? You dare annoy a ghost with questions? BAH!
After two days, this may occur:
If only Mall Santas receive your letters, nothing will occur. BAH! Who cares about all this. Well, the killings are something to care about. So long as you Survive, that's all that matters. (Survivor)
If Santa receives a letter, the Ghost of Christmas Future will visit you. Oh.. no.. you don't want it to end like this. You can change! You'll be good! You'll even help Santa and the Mall workers save Christmas! (pro-Town)
If Grinch receives a letter, the Ghost of Christmas Past will visit you. Why, now you remember why you hated all this stuff in the first place. Nevermind not caring, you wish Christmas ended RIGHT NOW! Oh...you found someone who wants to help (join Mafia)
If Santa AND Grinch receive a letter, the Ghost of Christmas Present will visit you. What's this? This isn't about me.. this is showing what Christmas has really become, a hive of lowlifes killing each other in malls just to pick up a worthless overpriced toy for a spoiled brat! Yes, you hated the whole Christmas thing but this..this is too much even for you. Well, best way to solve it is to get rid of it all. OF EVERYTHING! (SK. Obtains a kill and gift if Santa deems him Nice.)
That's the roles. You have a third party that may become a Survivor, Townie, Mafia, or SK. You have a Santa that needs to decide who should get a gift or not (thus trying to give to townies and not give to scum). You have a town that's trying to find Santa so they can get a permanent role without sending a letter to the mafia, and you have a mafia that wants letters so they can either play it safe and learn of what role people have or risk it and steal the role.
The role stealing is a gamble. If I sent a letter to ONE person and found that I didn't get a gift (not even coal) then I know who one of the mafia is. If I sent the letter out to many though, well.. then I'm not sure. Still, being able to inspect one person (why care about being a cop? Scrooge hunting) while roleblocking another WHILE KILLING...but the risk! Watching is much safer.
The scrooge bit I like since it is somewhat chaotic. :D
Btw, this wouldn't be a bastard so ALL of these rules will be known at the start. The matter is the players trying to read each other and, thus, figure out who to send the letter to/who to gift to. For Scrooge, it's reading AND deciding who they want to try to be.
Post by: Leafsnail on December 11, 2009, 11:02:06 am
Quote
It was necessary to foil an antimiller-type that always showed up "true". *snicker* Also consider the child-gambit in BYOR1 wherein I said that there was a possibility of a truthteller and got information with that as the stick.Leafsnail was tripped up by this, and yet noone followed it up, desu! Although if someone had, Leafsnail woulda just claimed town and taken the risk, desu.
And by the way, the Christmas themed mafia looks hilarious.
Post by: Mephansteras on December 11, 2009, 11:24:45 am
Post by: dakarian on December 11, 2009, 11:47:58 am
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 11, 2009, 03:43:09 pm
Your claim was cleverly worded in a way that wasn't TOO obvious.QuoteIt was necessary to foil an antimiller-type that always showed up "true". *snicker* Also consider the child-gambit in BYOR1 wherein I said that there was a possibility of a truthteller and got information with that as the stick.Leafsnail was tripped up by this, and yet noone followed it up, desu! Although if someone had, Leafsnail woulda just claimed town and taken the risk, desu.
And by the way, the Christmas themed mafia looks hilarious.
The child gets significantly less fun (and more Coppy) if you force everyone to follow the townclaim verbatim.
Post by: Leafsnail on December 11, 2009, 04:44:20 pm
Quote from: Lying Bastard
And for the Truth Reader if there is one, desu:I suppose you could write it off as roleplaying my (fake) role. Then again, still lucky noone made the connection and worked out I was in fact a Suiseiserialkiller.
Leafsnail is not part of any anti-town scumteam (be they pirates, ninjas, cultists, doppelgangers, robots or flying pumpkings that shoot lasers out of their asses, desu), desu.
As for the whole "I am an elf" thing... I suppose you might need an elf role that always returns "Lie" too.
Post by: Org on December 12, 2009, 10:41:37 pm
Mafia at the Movies
Your favorite movie making studios have had a mix up! The actors have misplaced themselves, but the directors have rolled with it. Survive this movie disaster.
Not sure. I was reading Star Wars quotes and I felt like it. :I
Then the roles are actors with different powers depending on their movie roles.
Mebbeh?
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 12, 2009, 10:42:20 pm
Post by: Vector on December 12, 2009, 10:45:00 pm
How about this?
Mafia at the Movies
Your favorite movie making studios have had a mix up! The actors have misplaced themselves, but the directors have rolled with it. Survive this movie disaster.
Not sure. I was reading Star Wars quotes and I felt like it. :I
Then the roles are actors with different powers depending on their movie roles.
Mebbeh?
What about Aztec, that game everyone wants to play and you already did all the planning for?
Post by: Zai on December 12, 2009, 10:47:45 pm
What about Aztec, that game everyone wants to play and you already did all the planning for?
Indeed.
Post by: Org on December 12, 2009, 11:00:50 pm
I dont knowHow about this?
Mafia at the Movies
Your favorite movie making studios have had a mix up! The actors have misplaced themselves, but the directors have rolled with it. Survive this movie disaster.
Not sure. I was reading Star Wars quotes and I felt like it. :I
Then the roles are actors with different powers depending on their movie roles.
Mebbeh?
What about Aztec, that game everyone wants to play and you already did all the planning for?
Post by: Org on December 12, 2009, 11:04:31 pm
Post by: Vector on December 12, 2009, 11:29:51 pm
Do you want Aztec Mafia?
YES. If it runs at some point when I can play it, I will be all over that thing.
Post by: Vector on December 14, 2009, 02:27:58 am
* MSPA Mafia
Both of these have ended.
I also think we need to move some games from planning into the queue, though that's just me.
Post by: Neruz on December 14, 2009, 07:07:12 am
I just opened my generic bastard mafia thread, although i don't expect it to start for a week or so.
Post by: Leafsnail on December 14, 2009, 10:45:54 am
Post by: dakarian on December 14, 2009, 11:13:32 am
Near-Mountainous and Christmas Mafia can go into the Que.
Christmas Mafia will NOT start off 2 days before christmas since many many people won't be playing by then.
Post by: Mr.Person on December 14, 2009, 12:44:27 pm
That's a good thing IMO. It means the system was balanced enough to give an equal chance.
Near-Mountainous and Christmas Mafia can go into the Que.
Christmas Mafia will NOT start off 2 days before christmas since many many people won't be playing by then.
I meant it should start in game time as two days before Christmas, not in real life time. That would make Day 2 Christmas Eve, Night 2 Santa's Delivery, and Day 3 Christmas Day. I suppose Day 4 would be Boxing Day, but who cares about Boxing Day?
Post by: Mephansteras on December 14, 2009, 12:57:51 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 14, 2009, 01:02:44 pm
UE
UE
QUEUE
NOT QUE
QUE IS A SPANISH OR FRENCH WORD GENERALLY MEANING OR RELATED TO "WHAT"
QUEUE IS A LINE OR WAITING LIST
THAT IS ALL
THANK YOU
Post by: webadict on December 14, 2009, 01:05:23 pm
QFINALLY!
UE
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QUEUE
NOT QUE
QUE IS A SPANISH OR FRENCH WORD GENERALLY MEANING OR RELATED TO "WHAT"
QUEUE IS A LINE OR WAITING LIST
THAT IS ALL
THANK YOU
Post by: dakarian on December 14, 2009, 01:12:15 pm
Very well. I'll get Near Mountainous and Christmas into signups.
Post by: webadict on December 14, 2009, 01:31:45 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on December 14, 2009, 01:32:21 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on December 14, 2009, 01:32:55 pm
Post by: Vector on December 14, 2009, 01:53:32 pm
It looks like we're about to start 5 games or so simultaneously, which I think is ill-advised for the nonce. Sudden influx of product into an economy leads to devaluation of that particular good, remember?
Since Dakarian's and Neruz' games have actually opened for signups, we should probably let those go ahead, but I'm going to suggest starting Horrible and Vote a week after those begin at the earliest. This is particularly because we're probably also about to get a Wizard Duel IV and Paranormal 13 going before too long (unless Meph has any objections), so that in a very short time frame we would have ended up with 7 games starting up. Last time, this crunched startup resulted in a lot of extremely crappy early games, with later games being confused and dying thanks to the poor start.
I also feel that traffic here in general has slowed down due to the holiday season, and is just going to get slower for the next little bit. I may be completely wrong about that one--correlation does not equal causation, after all--but I figured it was yet another good thing to think about.
Post by: dakarian on December 14, 2009, 01:59:05 pm
So I'm thinking next week run Horrible and Vote, then we wait for some of these games to end.
Also note that TYPE of game matters. N-M won't bring the same types of people as Horrible Role, after all.
Post by: Mephansteras on December 14, 2009, 02:04:19 pm
And, as dakarian said, Paranormal 12 is going to be going on for a while longer and Wizard Duel 3 has a few more days to go no matter what. So I don't expect either to finish for another week or two.
Wizard Duel may also take a short break from being a mafia game and wander up to the normal Forum Games section anyway, since I'm thinking of running a pure Duel from that rules set (with no Cabal or side-actions).
Post by: Leafsnail on December 14, 2009, 02:07:10 pm
Wizard Duel may also take a short break from being a mafia game and wander up to the normal Forum Games section anyway, since I'm thinking of running a pure Duel from that rules set (with no Cabal or side-actions).So a sortof SMOL with duals and possibly stat choices?
Post by: dakarian on December 14, 2009, 02:07:28 pm
BYOR2 = midgame
Wizard's 3 = earlygame (it's Day 4, but there's 9 people left, a low DPC (1 death day/night is not unusual) and it keeps going till only 1 survives)
LCS = Last Day
KotM = Ongoing
Para 12 = midgame
One Lynch = early game (6 players, 1 DPC, however, town will NL most of those days so it'll run quickly into LYLO)
BYOR:PE = Midgame
Post by: Vector on December 14, 2009, 02:11:26 pm
Well, the system CAN handle Horrible and Vote eventually.. we just need to stagger them. Note that Duel will be going for at least another 2 more game days (even after one side wins they keep going until one person is left) and paranormal is only in Mid game.
So I'm thinking next week run Horrible and Vote, then we wait for some of these games to end.
Also note that TYPE of game matters. N-M won't bring the same types of people as Horrible Role, after all.
Right, of course. It was more of a "What if I had been unable to sign up for games, and then suddenly 5 I wanted to play became available simultaneously. Well, if I wasn't thinking ahead, I'd sign up for all 5 and then immediately become largely inactive in all but one of them. Given humanity's propensity to dive after resources with no thought to the consequences, this is probably a pretty bad idea."
So I'm pretty much thinking "Wait for a game day or two of Near-Mountainous, Christmas, and Neruz's Bastard. Then you should have 6-12 people dead from those two alone, plus any other games, and putting more stuff into signups should be feasible."
Well, anyway, that's all theory. I wasn't saying the system couldn't handle Horrible and Vote eventually--we're currently running at 63 players, when we used to be at 108. I'm more thinking that a slow scale-up to previous running capacity would be better than splatting 5 games on at once, and that 3 simultaneously starting might be a bit rough.
Also, Dakarian: you forgot BYOR Panda on your list.
Post by: Mephansteras on December 14, 2009, 02:12:28 pm
Wizard Duel may also take a short break from being a mafia game and wander up to the normal Forum Games section anyway, since I'm thinking of running a pure Duel from that rules set (with no Cabal or side-actions).So a sortof SMOL with duals and possibly stat choices?
It'll be a pure tournament style game with players choosing one of the combat roles to play (barring Archmage, of course), and the other mages assisting. I haven't figured it all out yet, but I'll have a thread for it up once WD3 ends with a link in WD3 to it.
Post by: Mr.Person on December 14, 2009, 02:35:02 pm
Maybe... mid-game? I dunno, it's hard to know exactly without knowing the setup, after all, so just say it's ongoing.
Post by: Rysith on December 14, 2009, 10:27:56 pm
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 15, 2009, 03:19:50 am
QFINALLY!
UE
UE
QUEUE
NOT QUE
QUE IS A SPANISH OR FRENCH WORD GENERALLY MEANING OR RELATED TO "WHAT"
QUEUE IS A LINE OR WAITING LIST
THAT IS ALL
THANK YOU
Queue.
SMOL stayed in here, that could too.Wizard Duel may also take a short break from being a mafia game and wander up to the normal Forum Games section anyway, since I'm thinking of running a pure Duel from that rules set (with no Cabal or side-actions).So a sortof SMOL with duals and possibly stat choices?
It'll be a pure tournament style game with players choosing one of the combat roles to play (barring Archmage, of course), and the other mages assisting. I haven't figured it all out yet, but I'll have a thread for it up once WD3 ends with a link in WD3 to it.
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 15, 2009, 03:21:25 am
Post by: Vector on December 18, 2009, 11:08:35 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 19, 2009, 12:49:04 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 29, 2009, 02:32:38 am
I figure I'll get in around the time BM7 ends (maybe a a bit before, but whatever) and I'm purposely not joining any more games so I'll have time to host it.
Post by: Archangel on December 29, 2009, 02:39:04 am
Post by: dakarian on December 29, 2009, 09:15:59 am
So any new games should wait until after the holidays are over. After that, yah werewolf should be fine.
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 29, 2009, 11:35:25 am
Post by: webadict on December 29, 2009, 02:11:03 pm
Post by: Vector on December 29, 2009, 02:21:33 pm
As-is, I'm not sure what I think about the HP-oriented games. It might be good to play those intermittently with Wizard Duel (i.e. one HP-game at a time), because I personally doubt they'll be in high demand. Of course, that may just be a matter of preference.
Post by: webadict on December 29, 2009, 03:08:35 pm
As for HP-related games, you'll have to watch out for Massclaims. It makes some games broken.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 29, 2009, 05:24:03 pm
I was looking at the current Beginner Mafia and it made me think about making a Pokemon Mafia, where each person would be modeled after a Pokemon or some such item, and each Night, each Pokemon would use one of their attacks (Each person would have HP.) All the attacks would be posted (Pikachu uses Thunder on Geodude, for example.) I'm sure there's other roles and rules I could come up with, but I'm wondering how well all of this might work.(see also xylbot's 'worstidea')
Thou'rt a lazy blaggard. (http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=44314.0)
Post by: webadict on December 30, 2009, 04:12:58 am
Post by: Leafsnail on December 31, 2009, 01:55:26 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on December 31, 2009, 02:00:56 pm
Y'know, if you actually think before shooting, Gunfight is actually a fairly normal(ish) game, since you can "lynch" any Serial Killers trying to get a quick win in. Gunfight-Insane, on the other hand...
Any gunfight game I was in ended up being whoever is the last guy standing wins.
Post by: Leafsnail on December 31, 2009, 02:22:54 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on December 31, 2009, 04:33:11 pm
Maybe we should bust out a calendar? I'd be willing to use Excel if you guys can make guesses as to how long your ongoing games will last.
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 01, 2010, 12:21:31 pm
Post by: webadict on January 01, 2010, 11:04:20 pm
I'm starting mine when all my current games have finished.Games finish?
Post by: Vector on January 04, 2010, 08:38:32 pm
King of the Mafia ended (all right, Webadict!!)
Christmas Mafia and Vote Mafia 4 have started
WEREWOLVES: Trouble in the Village is removed indefinitely.
Post by: Mephansteras on January 05, 2010, 01:49:15 am
Post by: dakarian on January 05, 2010, 10:00:21 am
Also my BYOR is also scrapped. I think we had enough of that.
Add Bellsounder to the que in its place. I'm ready to start it up.
Also put Eversion Mafia into Development.
Post by: webadict on January 05, 2010, 10:14:31 am
[Webadict:] lol ...I'm voting for the King right now, aren't I? :P
Post by: dakarian on January 05, 2010, 10:28:08 am
Concept: It's like a reverse Kingmaker. The players vote on a person but instead of that person being lynched they become elected. Once elected, that person chooses who gets lynched.
So instead of choosing who is the most scummy, you choose the person who is the most 'townie'.
As for assassin.. not sure how that would work. The way they play it in chatmafia involves no talking and a mass of votes. Tha tmay not work as well in forum mafia.
Post by: webadict on January 05, 2010, 10:41:42 am
I wonder how well Politican would work here. I saw it in Chatmafia.It wouldn't work the same way, sure, but it'd still be fun.
Concept: It's like a reverse Kingmaker. The players vote on a person but instead of that person being lynched they become elected. Once elected, that person chooses who gets lynched.
So instead of choosing who is the most scummy, you choose the person who is the most 'townie'.
As for assassin.. not sure how that would work. The way they play it in chatmafia involves no talking and a mass of votes. Tha tmay not work as well in forum mafia.
Post by: Leafsnail on January 05, 2010, 11:36:41 am
As for Politician... I quite like the concept, although you'd have to be careful to avoid confirmed townies at all costs :P.
Post by: Alexhans on January 05, 2010, 12:52:24 pm
I think that those kind of games are better suited for real time games... not forum. Players would be discussing forever for something that is not really that relevant...
Post by: webadict on January 05, 2010, 01:08:10 pm
it still the same as kingmaker but with an added concept of voting... The person still has to be right...You're not really that relevant.
I think that those kind of games are better suited for real time games... not forum. Players would be discussing forever for something that is not really that relevant...
Post by: Leafsnail on January 05, 2010, 01:28:14 pm
The bad part is that, of course, you can't communicate with your partner, which meant I was forced to bus him day one as he wasn't jumping on a mislynch. Ah well...
Post by: Org on January 06, 2010, 06:45:39 pm
Post by: dakarian on January 06, 2010, 06:53:26 pm
Otoh, KotM just ended and the Beginner's Mafia series will be run by beginner hosts now.
As such I want Bellsounder placed into Queue and would like permission to Green Light it into signups.
Post by: Zai on January 06, 2010, 10:32:23 pm
You guys want Aztec Mafia?You've asked this before.
Also my BYOR is also scrapped. I think we had enough of that.
WHAT
HOW CAN THIS BE?
And take "Zai's Mafia" off the Planned Games list. Discontinued due to it probably creating too much confusion among all players; it'd likely be a killfest Night 1 which would require lots of people to be killed (15ish players now that I think about it) which would probably lead to lack of interest Day 1 and then too much confusion Day 2. It fits the idea for mass killing night one and then confusion afterwards, but just...too much confusion. ...And lack of continued interest on my part. That too.
Post by: Vector on January 06, 2010, 11:42:46 pm
Also, are you planning on running Paranormal 13 soon, or are you waiting on that one? The last game seemed pretty darned active.
As such I want Bellsounder placed into Queue and would like permission to Green Light it into signups.
* Bring Your Own Role Mafia - Pandarsenic Edition -- Hopefully not too much longer. 9 players, 3 scum.
* BYOR Mafia 2 - Looks like it's about to end soon.
* Wizard Duel 3 - Pretty much over.
* One Lynch Mafia - Looks to be close to ending.
* Near-Mountainous Mafia - Mid-game
* Neruz' generic bastard mafia - Just started
* Christmas Mafia - Early game
* Vote Mafia 4 - Early game
Remark: we have no dying games right now (though there are a couple with lax attendance). Looks like the system is working. We also don't have a surfeit of bastard mods running around, which is good.
Yes, Org, I am still deeply interested in Aztec Mafia.
Also my BYOR is also scrapped. I think we had enough of that.
:( That's too bad. Think you'll run one after BYOR Panda has been over for a while?
Post by: Mr.Person on January 06, 2010, 11:56:49 pm
Post by: dakarian on January 07, 2010, 01:16:32 am
I'm very proud of Bellsounder, though I was proud of KWN:DE so you should know that = OMG THE GATES OF HELL ARE OPENING!
Post by: CobaltKobold on January 07, 2010, 01:17:46 am
edit: Why is it bellsounder and not bellringer? Is there a sniper hidden in an adjacent tower*?
*actually obscure reference
Post by: dakarian on January 07, 2010, 01:19:14 am
Thus remove Werewolf from the listings.
I'm thinking Horrible Role can go up after one of the games ends. After another ends, Bellsounder will start.
Post by: Neruz on January 07, 2010, 01:20:00 am
Only if we eat the pomegranate seeds.
I've poisoned your pomegranate seed.
Post by: CobaltKobold on January 07, 2010, 01:20:44 am
That already came up. The creator locked the thread.
WEREWOLVES: Trouble in the Village is removed indefinitely.
Also, see previous post's question.
Also, I swapped my pomegranate seeds for your pumpkin seeds, neruz.
Post by: Neruz on January 07, 2010, 01:21:45 am
Post by: CobaltKobold on January 07, 2010, 01:24:59 am
Post by: Neruz on January 07, 2010, 01:28:37 am
Post by: Vector on January 07, 2010, 01:43:53 am
Post by: CobaltKobold on January 07, 2010, 02:18:05 am
There are a LOT of people who got spoiled, and therefore cannot play in the sequel to IMBMMBMM. (Which will be titled differently.)Votes
Hide/Rerun[3]: Vector, Apostolic Nihilist, Leafsnail
Not voting: Errol, Org
Know Too Much: Pandarsenic, Mr.Person, Dakarian(requested spoiler spectating), Boksi, Neruz, RedWarrior0(requested replacement), Zai
Though, three interested, I see.
Post by: Archangel on January 07, 2010, 03:08:43 am
I'm pretty sure that Werewolf is out of commission. If it was going to start, it would've a while ago.If you mean mine, although you probably don't, since your the one who answered me when I asked, I'm ready to run it, I just didn't get around to it and now I'm waiting for the green light to put it into signups.
Thus remove Werewolf from the listings.
Post by: dakarian on January 07, 2010, 09:25:12 am
Akk SORRY!
Werewolf and Horrible get priority over mine then.
Post by: Leafsnail on January 07, 2010, 10:46:22 am
Post by: Mephansteras on January 07, 2010, 12:44:23 pm
As long as you can get enough players, I think both games are fine to start.
Post by: dakarian on January 07, 2010, 01:17:05 pm
Post by: Org on January 07, 2010, 02:31:53 pm
Post by: Zai on January 07, 2010, 02:37:00 pm
Looks like I'll start after One-lynch then. np there.
That game is never going to end.
Post by: Archangel on January 08, 2010, 05:42:17 am
Post by: webadict on January 08, 2010, 10:01:53 am
I keep forgetting to ask: what's a good, easy way to randomize the alignments and roles?random.org
You can randomize lists, number, and other things t give you random everything.
Post by: dakarian on January 08, 2010, 10:04:07 am
It lets you take a list of names and roles and randomizes them. Great for closed setups as in. You have to play around a small bit for more advanced stuff, such as:
To make it handle possible roles (i.e. a game that MAY have a cop) I put down ALL of the roles that could show. Then I fill the name list with ZNONE until there's as many 'name's as there are 'roles'. Then randomize based on name. The result is that any role that 'ZNONE' gets is a role that doesn't' show. Then I not only know what roles will show up, but also who gets what role.
To deal with games where the scum can get any role: I run it twice: once for the roles themselves and once for who becomes mafia.
Post by: Vector on January 08, 2010, 12:36:15 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on January 08, 2010, 12:37:42 pm
Quote
To deal with games where the scum can get any role: I run it twice: once for the roles themselves and once for who becomes mafia.You might want to tweak such setups, actually. I mean, imagine a game where the scum has two Triple Voters :P.
Post by: webadict on January 08, 2010, 12:53:47 pm
Part of the reason I pick out my roles from a giant list. I don't randomize the roles, persay. I randomize who gets what, and make roles appropriate for balance. So, there's only been one game where a scum got Triple Voter, and I think he played it nicely.QuoteTo deal with games where the scum can get any role: I run it twice: once for the roles themselves and once for who becomes mafia.You might want to tweak such setups, actually. I mean, imagine a game where the scum has two Triple Voters :P.
Post by: Leafsnail on January 08, 2010, 01:18:18 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on January 08, 2010, 02:44:49 pm
Post by: webadict on January 08, 2010, 03:07:11 pm
But the town had quite a few counters in that game, like Unlimited Voter, Infinity Voter, Fibbonaci Voter, Unknown Voter...My favorite part of that game was watching the Infinity Voter and Unlimited Voter kill each other. That's probably the point where I removed the Unlimited Voter from the list :P. It's description was too confusing...
Post by: dakarian on January 08, 2010, 03:09:56 pm
As such, I've had a few setups that were nice and balanced but had to reroll them since I could see a nosy town try to figure out who is who.
What I need, honestly, is something similar to Meph's power balancing program/thingy.
Post by: webadict on January 08, 2010, 03:12:08 pm
I allow myself to run personal tweaks or even a reroll if things turn ugly. I also have to be careful of a MC threat letting the town figure out who the mafia are. I've had people trying to gamebreak a Beginner's Mafia game for goodness sakes!To be fair, I like to screw with people that think they can break my set-ups. Also, I've learned from my days with DF Mafia. That game had a ton of broken roles, but nobody ever figured them out...
As such, I've had a few setups that were nice and balanced but had to reroll them since I could see a nosy town try to figure out who is who.
Post by: Mephansteras on January 08, 2010, 03:13:41 pm
As far as set-ups go, I tend to run my script a few times and pick the set-up that I think will make the most interesting game.
Post by: Archangel on January 08, 2010, 10:02:59 pm
Post by: dakarian on January 10, 2010, 01:48:41 pm
BYOR 2: N5 - 5P
uPick: N5 7P
Near-Mountainous: D3 - 5P
One Lynch: D5 - 5P
Vote Mafia 4: N2 - 10P
Neruz's Bastard: N1 - 10P
Christmas Mafia: D2 - 12p
Second Chance Mafia: D1 - 9P
8 games - 63 players
Two should end by the end of the week (BYOR 2, Near-Mountainous)
Two are nearing the end game (uPick, One Lynch..yes, Pandar's 19P game is coming to a conclusion!)
The rest (Neruz/Christmas/Second) are still in early/mid game. Second Chance, note, had lots of revives so it will last longer than a typical 9P
Meanwhile, the games in signups:
Rysith: Starting monday - 13P
Horrible Role: SignUps (8/12)
Aztec Mafia: Signups (9/16) (note, VERY kill heavy game)
Kodak Mafia: Signups (4/12)
Archangel's Werewolf: Signups (0/16)
note that Aztec and Kodak decided to just start up on their own terms (though Aztec had the green light a while back).
1 game (Rysith) will be starting this week. 1 game (Horrible) will probably finish signups then as well. Aztec may need another week before it fills. The others are up in the air.
So right now:
8 running games, 5 in signups
Next week:
8 running games (-2 + 2), 3 in signups
Soon after 1 more game will start signups and at least 2 more will end. There's 2 more games that may start up or may die by the wayside.
Overall, although I disliked Kodak jumping ahead blindly, I think we have a good setup going now. We should try to keep 1-3 games in signups and around 8 or so running at a time.
Post by: Eduren on January 10, 2010, 08:16:25 pm
Post by: Vector on January 10, 2010, 08:17:58 pm
Ok, Putting Toon Mafia VI in planning. Toony is letting me host.
Wow, awesome! I was just thinking about how I missed Toon mafia.
Post by: ToonyMan on January 10, 2010, 08:54:20 pm
Post by: Eduren on January 10, 2010, 08:59:55 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 10, 2010, 09:20:58 pm
Post by: Org on January 10, 2010, 09:21:36 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on January 10, 2010, 09:42:53 pm
Post by: Org on January 10, 2010, 09:47:27 pm
Ok, since we've talked about this but no one has made a thread on it I decided too.Yeah it is.
Basically, this is where we talk about what games are active, what games are in the queue, and figure out a decent starting point for the various game so that we don't have a giant glut of games killing activity.
Here is a breakdown of games running (or full), in the sign-up stage, and planned. I will try to keep it updated on a fairly regular basis.
Mods: Please look at the list of games running and in the queue before you start sign-ups for your games! We want to keep things manageable around here, and restraint on the part of mods is one of the best ways we have of doing that.
Active Games:
- Bring Your Own Role Mafia - Pandarsenic Edition
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- Second Chance Mafia
- BYOR Mafia 2
- One Lynch Mafia
- Near-Mountainous Mafia
- Neruz' generic bastard mafia
- Christmas Mafia
- Vote Mafia 4
Games in Queue:
- Bellsounder
- Archangel's Werewolf (in signups)
- Horrible Role Mafia
- Aztec Mafia
Planned Games:
- Supernatural Mafia
- Lights Out Mafia
- Zai's Mafia
- Rysith's Semi-Bastard Mafia (currently planned for January)
- Duality Mafia
- INFILTRATE//SEEK//ELIMINATE
- Eversion Mafia
- KingmakerMafia
- Assassin Mafia
- Kodak Mafia
- Paranormal 13
- Toon Mafia VI
Post by: Vector on January 10, 2010, 09:50:56 pm
You edited that, Org.
Post by: Org on January 10, 2010, 09:54:17 pm
...How could you?
You edited that, Akigagak.
Post by: Vector on January 10, 2010, 09:57:10 pm
...How could you?
You edited that, Akigagak.
... Heh.
Post by: Org on January 10, 2010, 09:59:49 pm
Indeed....How could you?
You edited that, Akigagak.
... Heh.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on January 10, 2010, 10:32:33 pm
Vector, why are you attacking yourself for quote editing?Indeed....How could you?
You edited that, Vector.
... Heh.
Post by: Vector on January 10, 2010, 10:38:56 pm
Vector, why are you attacking yourself for quote squidding?Verily!...Squid what cuttlefish?
You squidded that, Vector.
... Cephalopod!
Because giraffe cubic elephant.
Post by: CobaltKobold on January 10, 2010, 10:42:59 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on January 10, 2010, 11:04:27 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on January 11, 2010, 11:42:28 am
Post by: dakarian on January 11, 2010, 09:54:09 pm
With that, Bellsounder shall start up. It's a 9p though a bastard mod so it won't run normally.
Post by: Neruz on January 11, 2010, 09:58:41 pm
The best mafias are caused by accident. Prepare for Calvinball Mafia.
That could totally work.
Post by: Mr.Person on January 11, 2010, 10:08:24 pm
The best mafias are caused by accident. Prepare for Calvinball Mafia.
That could totally work.
What's next, a mafia Nomic?
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 11, 2010, 10:10:13 pm
Post by: Neruz on January 11, 2010, 10:14:47 pm
I have no idea if it would work.
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 11, 2010, 10:45:03 pm
"If a town player is lynched, the lynch is canceled and the day continues"
"If a third-party player is lynched, the lynch is canceled and the day continues"
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
Post by: Neruz on January 11, 2010, 10:47:17 pm
It'd need more than 10 seconds of thought to ensure that the players couldn't break the game completely, but it could totally work.
Post by: Leafsnail on January 12, 2010, 07:54:29 am
"If a mafia player is lynched, the lynch is canceled and the day continues""If Leafsnail's poorly thought out role is lynched..."
"If a town player is lynched, the lynch is canceled and the day continues"
"If a third-party player is lynched, the lynch is canceled and the day continues"
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
Also, dakarian:
Quote from: dakarian
Two should end by the end of the week (BYOR 2, Near-Mountainous)Didn't this tell us all that Vector was scum?
Post by: dakarian on January 12, 2010, 09:53:31 am
The game had 2 days left tops since it was 5P. If a townie was lynched on Monday, Tuesday would begin the Final Day. Since you guys were pretty active, I expected it to have ended by Friday.
Thus no matter who would've won, it would end this week.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on January 12, 2010, 03:05:37 pm
"If a mafia player is lynched, the lynch is canceled and the day continues"What about Non-players, concepts, dead people, roles, the votecount, the first page, and the mod?
"If a town player is lynched, the lynch is canceled and the day continues"
"If a third-party player is lynched, the lynch is canceled and the day continues"
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
Post by: Vector on January 12, 2010, 03:07:38 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on January 12, 2010, 03:09:00 pm
Or:
No Lynch.
I should include actions in that list.
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 12, 2010, 03:19:46 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on January 12, 2010, 03:20:57 pm
Post by: Vector on January 12, 2010, 03:22:15 pm
...
Dunno, it suddenly dawned on me and I was really happy.
Post by: Leafsnail on January 12, 2010, 04:13:36 pm
All right! Looks like the board's coming back from the dead!And we've had a town win in a game without tonnes of PRs! Truly a rarity (kinda sucks because I'm almost always town :P).
...
Dunno, it suddenly dawned on me and I was really happy.
Post by: CobaltKobold on January 12, 2010, 04:18:15 pm
Post by: Vector on January 12, 2010, 04:20:11 pm
Town won? Where?
Near-Mountainous--and I lost as scum. Go take a look.
Admittedly, I replaced in, but I figured I'd mention it anyway.
Post by: webadict on January 14, 2010, 11:09:42 pm
Assassin is being moved into Queue.
Post by: webadict on January 14, 2010, 11:22:00 pm
Post by: Org on January 15, 2010, 05:48:42 pm
Post by: CobaltKobold on January 15, 2010, 05:56:52 pm
guards know king but not each other
assassin wants to kill king, but always gets one shot (even if lynched d1)
in IRC, generally goes votefest and the assassin tries to find king by voting patterns (suspicious lack of votes falling on someone).
Talking is claimed to be bad as it'll give the assassin stuff to go on.
(Also, no PMs, duh.)
Post by: Leafsnail on January 15, 2010, 05:58:43 pm
Post by: CobaltKobold on January 15, 2010, 06:02:11 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 15, 2010, 11:22:43 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 15, 2010, 11:27:29 pm
Post by: Vector on January 16, 2010, 12:18:59 am
Also, I had another game idea - Illuminatus Mafia. Suffice to say, telling you why it would be special would be cheating. It would be 13 players. Semi-Bastard Mod.
Does it have anything to do with Dan Brown?
Also, should we really be moving more games into signups? We can't even get enough players for Horrible Role or Aztec, right now.
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 16, 2010, 12:24:10 am
Post by: Vector on January 16, 2010, 12:27:32 am
Ah, true. Horrible role might be just a general burnout on bastardry though.
A good point. We have 3/4 bastard mods running right now (I personally count Second Chance), and I'm getting a bit sick of them myself. It might be a good idea to focus on open setups for the next little bit.
Post by: Neruz on January 16, 2010, 12:50:57 am
Hmm. What to run. I suppose i could run an open MSPA Mafia, but that would ruin half the fun :P
How about an open BYOR? Or perhaps a Xylbot mafia :D
Post by: dakarian on January 16, 2010, 01:02:40 am
Post by: Neruz on January 16, 2010, 01:28:03 am
Post by: Neruz on January 16, 2010, 01:34:23 am
Post by: Mephansteras on January 16, 2010, 01:37:57 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 16, 2010, 02:04:21 am
Post by: Neruz on January 16, 2010, 02:06:16 am
Post by: Archangel on January 16, 2010, 02:06:59 am
Post by: Leafsnail on January 16, 2010, 08:30:45 am
Post by: dakarian on January 16, 2010, 12:16:18 pm
In truth, Second Chance isn't really a bastard either. We know what we're facing. It's just VERY role heavy with lots of revivors.
You have to have hidden elements that don't work like the player could expect to warrant a Bastard title.
Post by: Org on January 16, 2010, 12:49:09 pm
Please.
Post by: Leafsnail on January 16, 2010, 03:37:01 pm
Post by: Vector on January 16, 2010, 03:39:04 pm
Also, Neruz - MSPA might run better as a Theme Game rather than a Bastard Mod.
Yeah, I don't feel like the original was a bastard mod at all. You had some weird features in there, but it wasn't a bastard mod. It was just a fairly normal game with closed roles, which should be fine.
Post by: Leafsnail on January 16, 2010, 03:45:34 pm
Post by: Vector on January 16, 2010, 04:04:51 pm
I'd make the next one a bit less crazy, personally. Mini-Cult + Survivor + Death Cult + Mafia + Weird Sleeping God Type Thing was possibly too much.
I feel like the best thing about that game was the pure insanity that came from a non-bastard-mod. If we're not ready for crazy MSPA, we're not really ready for MSPA.
I agree on banning the Sleeping God thinger, though--it's just too broken.
Post by: Vector on January 16, 2010, 04:35:12 pm
Well, I can move Paranormal 13 up to signups whenever people want it.
You should probably do that now--we're starting to run low on games, and if we don't start anything new soon we may be in a spot of trouble.
Also, Meph:
Bellsounder and Semi-Bastard (Rysith's) are currently running.
Lights Out and Zai's need to be removed from "planned"
Horrible Role, Aztec, and Kingmaker are all in signups.
Post by: CobaltKobold on January 16, 2010, 04:41:59 pm
Wats dat again?in chosen, players each get short list (4-ish?) of roles to choose from once alignment is known.
Post by: Vector on January 16, 2010, 05:22:11 pm
One Lynch Mafia - pretty much dead, for the nth time.
Neruz' generic bastard mafia - under consideration for dropping due to unplayability
Christmas Mafia - almost over
Vote Mafia 4 - I'd give it a week and a half or so
Second Chance Mafia - Strong, but mod seems to have disappeared again
Bellsounder - Going strong
Semi-Bastard (Rysith's) - Currently frozen due to bereavement, but was pretty active before. D1
At the moment, I'd just say "throw some stuff into signups and see what sticks." I'd rank the desire for bastard mods at 0, so Eversion Mafia should probably wait until the current ones have ended for a while. We have 4 strong games, 2 nearly dead games, and 2 BYORs that just finished fairly strong.
I think BYOR interest might be returning a little, so if we started 1 up (and only one) soonish we'd probably be fine. Actually, it might be good to start up a thread where players request gametypes... and, now that I've gotten my thread pinned, I'll provide links in there to all the bureaucratic threads we've built.
Post by: CobaltKobold on January 16, 2010, 05:23:57 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on January 16, 2010, 05:28:01 pm
Post by: Vector on January 16, 2010, 05:35:43 pm
A normal(ish) game that isn't mountainous or Beginner's could be good. We haven't had one for a while.
I think that's what Aztec and Werewolf are supposed to be for, but they aren't getting enough interest... I'm vaguely worried about the subforum.
Additionally, we should probably open another BM for signups round-about now.
Jumpstations are always good.
Yeah, I'll take care of that when I'm done running errands.
Post by: Zai on January 16, 2010, 05:42:59 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 16, 2010, 06:18:09 pm
Post by: Vector on January 16, 2010, 06:32:05 pm
Also, would anyone not interested in a semi-Bastard (my Illuminatus Mafia) be willing to have me tell them the idea and give me feedback on it?
You might want to ask that question over in Gametypes.
Post by: Neruz on January 16, 2010, 07:50:24 pm
Post by: Org on January 16, 2010, 08:00:46 pm
I think my next game will definitely be non-bastard. I think i'll run a BYOR.No.
Post by: Neruz on January 16, 2010, 08:12:55 pm
Post by: Vector on January 16, 2010, 08:14:05 pm
I think my next game will definitely be non-bastard. I think i'll run a BYOR.
I'd be all for it, provided that it's not too freaking large--and if you give it a touch more time.
Post by: Zai on January 16, 2010, 08:22:43 pm
I think my next game will definitely be non-bastard. I think i'll run a BYOR.I am an idiot who likes to spam. Lynch me in real life, please.
Post by: Neruz on January 16, 2010, 08:27:48 pm
I think my next game will definitely be non-bastard. I think i'll run a BYOR.
I'd be all for it, provided that it's not too freaking large--and if you give it a touch more time.
Based on what i've seen in forum mafya, 7 - 11 seems to be a good number.
Post by: Org on January 16, 2010, 08:28:27 pm
And Zai, I am no idiot. You know nothing about me. I do not call you an idiot as much as you do to me.
So, please Zai, GROW THE FUCK UP.
Post by: Vector on January 16, 2010, 08:29:53 pm
I think my next game will definitely be non-bastard. I think i'll run a BYOR.
I'd be all for it, provided that it's not too freaking large--and if you give it a touch more time.
Based on what i've seen in forum mafya, 7 - 11 seems to be a good number.
Eh, I think 7-p games are a bit small, myself. You might just want to open a signup thread when it's time and cap it off at 13-max, since any larger and you start running into Pandar.
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 16, 2010, 09:02:19 pm
Post by: Neruz on January 16, 2010, 09:07:11 pm
Post by: CobaltKobold on January 16, 2010, 11:25:25 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 17, 2010, 07:12:45 am
Post by: dakarian on January 17, 2010, 11:11:56 am
Post by: Vector on January 17, 2010, 12:25:32 pm
A quick check: Are 13 people presently interested in Illuminatus Mafia?
Again: does it involve Dan Brown in any way, shape, or form?
Post by: Mr.Person on January 17, 2010, 12:53:21 pm
A quick check: Are 13 people presently interested in Illuminatus Mafia?
There's like 3 games in sign-up right now that are unable to get the number of players they want.
Post by: Vector on January 17, 2010, 12:54:47 pm
A quick check: Are 13 people presently interested in Illuminatus Mafia?
There's like 3 games in sign-up right now that are unable to get the number of players they want.
Try 5.
Post by: dakarian on January 17, 2010, 01:20:50 pm
Active Games:
* One Lynch Mafia
* Neruz' generic bastard mafia
* Vote Mafia 4
* Second Chance Mafia
* Bellsounder
* Rysith's Semi-Bastard Mafia
Games in Signups:
* Archangel's Werewolf (in signups)
* Horrible Role Mafia
* Aztec Mafia
* KingmakerMafia
Games in Queue:
* INFILTRATE//SEEK//ELIMINATE
Planned Games:
* Supernatural Mafia
* Lights Out Mafia
* Zai's Mafia
* Duality Mafia
* Eversion Mafia
* Kodak Mafia
* Paranormal 13
* Toon Mafia VI
* Calvinball Mafia
Of that, One Lynch need either a MAJOR wake up call or to be shot dead, Second Chance is stalled until RedWarrior gets back and ends the day or at least puts a vote count (or just something to show that the game is going... last he said is that he can't continue until the end of the weekend), Neruz's game...don't have a CLUE what's going on there. Rysith had RL issues but it just woke up again so it should be fine. The rest of the actives are fine now.
Of the signups:
Kingmaker only just started his signups and he'll probably finish soon enough. Horrible role only needs 3 people though it seems to be having problems getting it. I'd join but I'm still seeing if Aztec can get enough. Aztec needs a good few people and..I'm not sure it'll get enough. It's almost like we lost a good few folks or else they are all busy or.. meh. Werewolf is having a TON of trouble getting people and I'm tempted to think it won't make it.
I'd give the Aztec and Werewolf one more week of signups. If either can get close then we can wait for them to fill up. Next week, ISE can start signups.
Meanwhile, we need mroe games to go into the queue.
Also I'm opting to put a new section for 'signups'. Queued games are games like ISE that are ready but not actually running yet, not even signups. We can go ahead and get the mainstays up in the queue (Toon Mafia and Paranormal). Also, who's planning on running the next BYOR. I'm sure if no one is that Zai would start screaming at me to go run one :P.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on January 17, 2010, 03:51:27 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 17, 2010, 08:25:04 pm
A quick check: Are 13 people presently interested in Illuminatus Mafia?
Again: does it involve Dan Brown in any way, shape, or form?
No.
And Dak, add Illuminatus to the Planned.
Post by: Eduren on January 17, 2010, 09:26:33 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on January 17, 2010, 09:27:42 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on January 17, 2010, 09:28:25 pm
Since this is my first hosting gig, I was wondering if somebody would be willing to sit out of Toon Mafia so that I could get some help with the setup.
*points at self
Post by: webadict on January 17, 2010, 10:59:01 pm
I could help as well.Since this is my first hosting gig, I was wondering if somebody would be willing to sit out of Toon Mafia so that I could get some help with the setup.
*points at self
Post by: webadict on January 17, 2010, 11:03:33 pm
But, I will make cool role add-ons.
Post by: dakarian on January 17, 2010, 11:06:33 pm
Good times.
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 17, 2010, 11:07:45 pm
Should I host another, SMALLER uPick?
Post by: webadict on January 17, 2010, 11:09:56 pm
I like balanced crazy. :cOh, but where will the fun be without a 19-person hammer game?
Should I host another, SMALLER uPick?
Post by: Diakron on January 17, 2010, 11:14:00 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 17, 2010, 11:14:20 pm
Post by: Eduren on January 17, 2010, 11:22:12 pm
Nope, Toony is good enough.I could help as well.Since this is my first hosting gig, I was wondering if somebody would be willing to sit out of Toon Mafia so that I could get some help with the setup.
*points at self
Post by: Mr.Person on January 17, 2010, 11:41:17 pm
Post by: Vector on January 18, 2010, 12:02:35 am
No.
And Dak, add Illuminatus to the Planned.
Then yes, I'd be interested >_>
Post by: CobaltKobold on January 18, 2010, 12:19:44 am
And if no one wants to run BYOR, I can make one where I don't dull down the roles. But I'm not going to do much for balancing...The one in the first was neat 'cause the roles somehow lined up. Vizzini+Pirate. But they're kinda...hard to get at.
But, I will make cool role add-ons.
Post by: Zai on January 18, 2010, 10:34:02 am
And if no one wants to run BYOR, I can make one where I don't dull down the roles. But I'm not going to do much for balancing...Yes please.
But, I will make cool role add-ons.
Post by: Eduren on January 18, 2010, 01:41:19 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on January 18, 2010, 03:19:43 pm
And if no one wants to run BYOR, I can make one where I don't dull down the roles. But I'm not going to do much for balancing...The one in the first was neat 'cause the roles somehow lined up. Vizzini+Pirate. But they're kinda...hard to get at.
But, I will make cool role add-ons.
Make it themed.
Post by: webadict on January 18, 2010, 10:16:17 pm
I'll run it later then. Maybe in a week or two, when Vote Mafia has ended and Kingmaker is at least running.And if no one wants to run BYOR, I can make one where I don't dull down the roles. But I'm not going to do much for balancing...Yes please.
But, I will make cool role add-ons.
Just don't blame me for craziness. And I hope that things actually work this time.
Post by: webadict on January 19, 2010, 02:31:23 pm
Post by: Vector on January 19, 2010, 02:36:39 pm
Or perhaps I'll put it into Sign-Ups now. If everyone else is alright with it. Vote Mafia ended, and I think a crazy game might spark some life into this subforum. Plus, KingMaker won't get enough people right now.
Yeah, do it. I'll put it near the top of the Open Games topic.
Post by: dakarian on January 19, 2010, 02:43:56 pm
Though first I'll join his :P.
Post by: Mephansteras on January 19, 2010, 02:49:03 pm
I'd move Paranormal 13 to sign-ups, but I don't want to take players from other games...
Post by: Vector on January 19, 2010, 02:53:59 pm
Things do seem overly quiet down here.
I'd move Paranormal 13 to sign-ups, but I don't want to take players from other games...
I don't think you'd take players from other games, to be honest. You have a little core of people who play your games and no others, so if anything it'd probably be good advertisement. We have to get SOMETHING running ASAP, and it doesn't matter what it is. Please boot it up.
I'll maintain that we should probably put another BM in signups soonish. I'm considering modding, rather than ICing.
Post by: Mephansteras on January 19, 2010, 02:55:16 pm
Post by: webadict on January 19, 2010, 02:56:28 pm
Meph, you pretty much have your own followers. We'll !xmafia in to most of your games, assuming that you fix the problems that are likely to come up from the last one :P.Things do seem overly quiet down here.
I'd move Paranormal 13 to sign-ups, but I don't want to take players from other games...
I don't think you'd take players from other games, to be honest. You have a little core of people who play your games and no others, so if anything it'd probably be good advertisement. We have to get SOMETHING running ASAP, and it doesn't matter what it is. Please boot it up.
I'll maintain that we should probably put another BM in signups soonish. I'm considering modding, rather than ICing.
And with it being Paranormal 13, you have to plan something extra into it. This only comes around once every infinite numbers.
Post by: Mephansteras on January 19, 2010, 02:58:45 pm
And I have a thought for 13. Need to work out a few details, though.
Post by: dakarian on January 19, 2010, 05:20:16 pm
In truth, I believe Glyth can go ahead and green light his own mafia as well. I don't think Aztec and Werewolf will make it.
Post by: CobaltKobold on January 19, 2010, 05:49:03 pm
Once you work it out, consider it green lit.
In truth, I believe Glyth can go ahead and green light his own mafia as well. I don't think Aztec and Werewolf will make it.
ARGH! MY NAME!
It has been mangled!
I find it hilarious that you manage to do that so often. Though in this case it was probably a copypaste from a previous mistake :P
Post by: dakarian on January 19, 2010, 06:13:33 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Vector on January 19, 2010, 06:15:05 pm
Once you work it out, consider it green lit.
In truth, I believe Glyth can go ahead and green light his own mafia as well. I don't think Aztec and Werewolf will make it.
Werewolf isn't going to make it, no, but Aztec is just 5 away (i.e. roughly 75% full). Kingmaker is 66% full. I feel like if we've got that many, we shouldn't just drop things and give up.
Blah. In any case I'm going to remove Werewolf from the list, as well as Kodak--since we seem to have not even decided if we're running Kodak or Baja Flores, anyway.
Then, I'd suggest that we don't flood with too many sign-up threads. Let's keep this reasonably controlled. Stick up the BYOR and Paranormal, wait a while, see what happens. Then we can decide on the other stuff.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on January 19, 2010, 06:18:54 pm
Post by: dakarian on January 19, 2010, 07:24:18 pm
As for Kingmaker, Web was the one to state that it might not gain enough people. It's a reason why he started BYOR instead.
Post by: Vector on January 19, 2010, 07:25:35 pm
I don't think there's many that will join Aztec at this point. It CAN start now if it was modified, but I'm doubtful it'll gain anyone else.
As for Kingmaker, Web was the one to state that it might not gain enough people. It's a reason why he started BYOR instead.
Alrighty. Shall I take Kingmaker and Aztec off the list, then?
Post by: Org on January 19, 2010, 07:39:31 pm
Post by: Org on January 19, 2010, 07:40:13 pm
Post by: Vector on January 19, 2010, 07:42:05 pm
No
Doodabuddy, you're going to have to do some active recruitment or something, in that case. With the way things are, it's just sitting around looking sad and pathetic.
Post by: Org on January 19, 2010, 08:26:55 pm
Post by: Vector on January 19, 2010, 08:29:06 pm
Yeah, but I actually want some players.
You've got 11. If you actively recruit via PMs and ask nicely, you'll probably be able to get 5 pretty quick. It actually works better than you might think.
I wouldn't suggest this for most cases, but with the subforum dying... it seems like it might be a good thing to do.
Post by: Neruz on January 19, 2010, 08:36:00 pm
Post by: Vector on January 19, 2010, 08:38:27 pm
Post by: dakarian on January 19, 2010, 09:08:25 pm
Post by: Vector on January 19, 2010, 09:10:49 pm
there's also the option of trimming down the killing roles or scum roles and running it as is. It CAN run at this point. Perhaps a big final push can get the last batch of folks. THe game can run. One way or another, though, the signups should be ending.
Yeah. If I were you, I'd do heavy advertisement on people who have recently gotten out of the BM-stage via PMs (write them individually! It really helps!) and then cut the game down accordingly.
Post by: Org on January 19, 2010, 10:00:37 pm
Post by: CobaltKobold on January 19, 2010, 10:07:00 pm
Post by: Vector on January 20, 2010, 02:28:43 am
One-Lynch - just ended
Archangel's Werewolf - needs to be removed from signups
Paranormal 13 - in signups
BYOR 3 - in signups
Dudes, I'm going to make a formal request here that people who are even vaguely interested in Horrible Role sign up for it. We are ridiculously close to having it filled up (just one more!!).
Additionally, I'm going to request that I be allowed to open a signup thread for BM IX, as I would like to mod it. I've been the scum IC for a long time, and I think it'd be a good idea to pass on my crown for a while and potentially move to occasional modding.
Plus, I can't let you guys get wind of all my tricks ;)
Seriously, people... we've only got three games running at the moment. Interested folks should get out there and play some Mafia~!
Post by: CobaltKobold on January 20, 2010, 02:30:39 am
Post by: Org on January 20, 2010, 04:14:30 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on January 20, 2010, 04:19:44 pm
Post by: Vector on January 20, 2010, 09:05:42 pm
Given that with this we will have precisely 6 games running (7 once Paranormal finishes filling), I would suggest opening another two up for signups (it takes a while, and my guess is that Bellsounder will end relatively soon).
Still waiting on Dakarian for confirmation of BMIX, since we're about to hit the end of D2 as far as I know (and that's around when the new signups typically open).
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 20, 2010, 09:06:46 pm
Post by: Org on January 20, 2010, 09:07:52 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 20, 2010, 09:14:06 pm
Post by: Zai on January 20, 2010, 09:15:44 pm
iPick?Mod presses Random on Wikipedia ~30+ times, selects those pages most fitting for roles and uses them.
Just uPick randomized.
[PPE:] Ninjaed by Pandar.
Post by: Org on January 20, 2010, 09:19:38 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 20, 2010, 09:21:36 pm
Post by: Org on January 20, 2010, 09:23:59 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 20, 2010, 09:34:07 pm
Random sample of 30 articles, with at least one star before the 15 I'd consider "good" for use, and two stars before the AWESOME ones I would definitely use.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Yeah, I'm totally going to run this. XD
You role with it.
Post by: Org on January 20, 2010, 09:38:26 pm
<.<
Icwutudidthar
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 20, 2010, 09:39:58 pm
Post by: Org on January 20, 2010, 09:42:34 pm
You still gong to run Illuminati Mafia?
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 20, 2010, 09:43:43 pm
Maybe while uPick is going.
Post by: Neruz on January 20, 2010, 11:21:52 pm
Pandarsenic needs to work on his ninjapostery.
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 21, 2010, 05:10:57 pm
I'm creating it now, but I'll make a note that it might not run right away.
Post by: Vector on January 21, 2010, 05:19:53 pm
I think I'm going to run a quick game of bastard mafia with 5 players. Normally I'd wait, but I don't see it being a very long game. Would anyone have a problem with it?
I'm creating it now, but I'll make a note that it might not run right away.
It's not about length, it's about simultaneity and the fact that we've got some 5 games about to start/starting right now. Think you could wait about a week or so to start the actual play? I say this mostly because I think the signups for a 5p game will insta-fill, but the subforum probably can't support another game-start right now.
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 21, 2010, 05:24:14 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on January 21, 2010, 05:27:25 pm
Post by: ExKirby on January 22, 2010, 02:35:11 pm
Post by: Vector on January 22, 2010, 02:47:37 pm
ExKirby BYOR II will be played. You can pre-in now, but I will wait a bit until the start.
All right. We'll let you know when we've got space to run it.
Post by: dakarian on January 22, 2010, 02:54:48 pm
(and perhaps finally working on Eversion)
Post by: Vector on January 22, 2010, 02:57:23 pm
For the record, ExKirby can slip his BYOR ahead of me. I really should get to working on Boot Camp.
(and perhaps finally working on Eversion)
Yeah, I was thinking more of other games that have been planned for months, and also about our BYOR-cap.
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 22, 2010, 03:06:40 pm
Post by: Vector on January 22, 2010, 03:22:04 pm
Also, I'm going to open sign-ups for SEEK//INFILTRATE//ELIMINATE upon conclusion of either BM8 or Rysiths, though I might hold off on running it till the other game is done or my bastard mod is done (the bastard mod probably won't last that long once it starts, what with a strict 24 hour schedule...)
Alrighty. Just opening signups then should be fine, because they seem to take a good long while.
Post by: dakarian on January 22, 2010, 03:48:09 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 22, 2010, 04:01:58 pm
Like I said, I'm not even starting sign ups till one of my games is finished, so you probably have plenty of time.
Post by: Org on January 23, 2010, 10:45:35 pm
So everyone can
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 24, 2010, 07:48:26 am
Still bitter that they kept dying. :V
:I
Post by: Org on January 24, 2010, 10:31:08 am
I will make Mafias that are ridiculous, but not another that uses the Ridiculous Mafia name.I remember that in the first one, I was TH3 T0WN B0MB3R. Or something like that
Still bitter that they kept dying. :V
:I
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 24, 2010, 09:16:11 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on January 25, 2010, 05:11:54 pm
Post by: dakarian on January 25, 2010, 10:04:34 pm
Post by: Neruz on January 25, 2010, 10:27:58 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on January 26, 2010, 04:23:38 pm
Post by: Org on January 26, 2010, 04:29:06 pm
Post by: Vector on January 26, 2010, 04:31:35 pm
I want to do a BSER mafia.
BSER?
Whoops, Bring Someone Else's, I guess. Good god, everyone wants to bring a B**R game >_>
Post by: Org on January 26, 2010, 04:35:03 pm
Post by: Org on January 26, 2010, 04:37:14 pm
Post by: Vector on January 26, 2010, 04:39:01 pm
Too bad we no longer have a Wizard Duel Mafia anymore.
It'll probably come back eventually, if we beg and plead.
Post by: Org on January 26, 2010, 04:41:37 pm
But I don't want to steal Meph's idea.
Post by: Mephansteras on January 26, 2010, 04:44:47 pm
Too bad we no longer have a Wizard Duel Mafia anymore.
It'll come back. Especially since it looks like the non-mafia version isn't getting a whole lot of interest.
Post by: Vector on January 26, 2010, 05:31:42 pm
Post by: Org on January 26, 2010, 09:40:17 pm
I want to be the best, the very best
Like no one ever was
to hunt them is my real test
to lynch them is my causeeeeeeee
Scummymon!
Its you and me
I know its my win condition destiny
Scummymon!
Ooh, you're my protector friend
In a town we must defend
Scummymon!
Our alignment so true
Our roles will pull us through
You teach me and I'll teach you
Scummymon!
Gotta catch 'em all!
Every night along the way
With a protector I will face
I will vote every day
To claim my rightful place
Buddy with me, the day is right
There's no better townie team
Vote in vote we'll win the mafia fight
It's always been our win condition scheme
Scummymon!
Its you and me
I know its my win condition destiny
Scummymon!
Ooh, you're my protector friend
In a town we must defend
Scummymon!
Our alignment so true
Our roles will pull us through
You teach me and I'll teach you
Scummymon!
Gotta catch 'em all!
Scummymon!
Its you and me
I know its my win condition destiny
Scummymon!
Ooh, you're my protector friend
In a town we must defend
Scummymon!
Our alignment so true
Our roles will pull us through
You teach me and I'll teach you
Scummymon!
Gotta catch 'em all!
Post by: Neruz on January 26, 2010, 10:00:44 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on January 26, 2010, 10:01:18 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on January 26, 2010, 10:07:15 pm
Now do one from the scum point of view.
ZING!
Post by: RedWarrior0 on January 27, 2010, 06:46:47 pm
Post by: dakarian on January 27, 2010, 09:12:06 pm
Put Boot Camp Mafia and Sudden Death Mafia on the que. I'll start them both up on Monday.
Post by: Org on January 27, 2010, 09:55:15 pm
OwnedNow do one from the scum point of view.
ZING!
I wanna be the very best
Like noone ever was
To confuse them is my real test
To wifom them is my cause
I will travel across the thread
Lurking far and wide
Each townie to fakeclaim embed
The scummyness that's inside
Scummymon!
It's you and me
I know it's my win condition destiny
Scummymon!
Ooh, you're my Godfather friend
In a scum team we must defend
Scummymon!
Our fakeclaims, lolz so true
Our tactics will pull us through
You bus me and I'll lynch you
Scummymon
Gotta kill 'em all!
Every doctor along the way
With daggers I will face
I will kill every day
To claim my rightful place
Bandwagon with me, the time is right
There's no better scum team
Lynch in lynch, we'll win the fight
It's always been our scummy dream
Scummymon!
It's you and me
I know it's my win condition destiny
Scummymon!
Ooh, you're my Godfather friend
In a scum team we must defend
Scummymon!
Our fakeclaims, lolz so true
Our tactics will pull us through
You bus me and I'll lynch you
Scummymon
Gotta kill 'em all!
Scummymon!
It's you and me
I know it's my win condition destiny
Scummymon!
Ooh, you're my Godfather friend
In a scum team we must defend
Scummymon!
Our fakeclaims, lolz so true
Our tactics will pull us through
You bus me and I'll lynch you
Scummymon
Gotta kill 'em all!
Post by: ToonyMan on January 27, 2010, 10:02:14 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on January 27, 2010, 10:08:40 pm
Post by: Zai on January 27, 2010, 10:16:48 pm
Post by: webadict on January 27, 2010, 10:19:02 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on January 27, 2010, 10:24:26 pm
I don't think any of those (aside from maybe Survivor) fit the theme, RW0.Do you think I care?
Post by: webadict on January 27, 2010, 10:29:05 pm
HEY! Glad to see you're able to post in this thread but not Aztec Mafia!I don't think any of those (aside from maybe Survivor) fit the theme, RW0.Do you think I care?
Post by: CobaltKobold on January 28, 2010, 09:54:18 am
You know I want one from each of Survivor, Lyncher, and Jester now, right?You forgot SK, Cult
Not the place, webfoot.HEY! Glad to see you're able to post in this thread but not Aztec Mafia!I don't think any of those (aside from maybe Survivor) fit the theme, RW0.Do you think I care?
Post by: Leafsnail on January 28, 2010, 11:55:40 am
Post by: Mr.Person on January 28, 2010, 12:10:57 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on January 28, 2010, 12:53:47 pm
One Lynch has already ended.
Put Boot Camp Mafia and Sudden Death Mafia on the que. I'll start them both up on Monday.
They're in the Queue for now, but we don't have any other planned games ahead of them?
Post by: dakarian on January 28, 2010, 01:08:59 pm
Though IMO, both of those need to start on monday then.
Sidenote: I don't believe I'm joining IEM. I think I'll focus more on hosting rather than playing for a while.
Post by: Eduren on January 28, 2010, 04:53:33 pm
I can start signups for TM on Monday then.
Post by: Mr.Person on January 29, 2010, 05:29:17 am
Post by: Squeegy on January 30, 2010, 05:19:17 pm
Post by: Eduren on February 01, 2010, 04:44:59 am
Post by: webadict on February 01, 2010, 05:45:50 pm
Basically, every party (town, mafia, mafia-ally, sk, lyncher, jester, survivor, and cult) are placed into the town. The goal? For your party to win. There are several ways to win, but you cannot No Lynch.
Good luck figuring out who's not the Jester :P
Post by: Leafsnail on February 01, 2010, 05:49:58 pm
Secondly - can cult only recruit town?
Thirdly - what 'bout Doomspeaker? That could be... interesting.
Post by: webadict on February 01, 2010, 05:56:57 pm
Firstly - can multiple parties win?1) Yes, multiple parties can win (Survivor + Lyncher, Cult + Jester, Mafia + Mafia-ally), so long as their party's win condition is satisfied. (Survivor and Lyncher are alive when Lynchee is lynched, Cult lynches Jester for complete Cult win, Mafia kills remaining target with Mafia-ally still alive)
Secondly - can cult only recruit town?
Thirdly - what 'bout Doomspeaker? That could be... interesting.
2) No, cult can recruit everyone except sk and mafia, for simplicity's sake.
3) Doomspeaker is a type of sk. It is possible for each party to have roles.
So, how's that sound?
Post by: CobaltKobold on February 01, 2010, 06:01:19 pm
Post by: Eduren on February 01, 2010, 06:02:19 pm
Post by: Org on February 01, 2010, 07:49:55 pm
Post by: webadict on February 01, 2010, 08:05:35 pm
well, does Lyncher win stop the game?Yes. So does Jester lynch. Basically, any win will stop the game, and any win conditions fulfilled at that time are the winners.
Post by: dakarian on February 01, 2010, 11:38:55 pm
Sounds like Pain in a Cup. I love it.
Post by: Vector on February 02, 2010, 04:19:02 pm
Active Games:
* Bellsounder -> ENDED
* Rysith's Semi-Bastard Mafia
* Aztec Mafia
* Horrible Role Mafia
* Paranormal 13
* Web's BYOR
Games in Signups:
* KingmakerMafia
* Squeegy's Werewolf III
* Toon Mafia VI
Games in Queue:
* INFILTRATE//SEEK//ELIMINATE
* Boot Camp Mafia
* Sudden Death Mafia
Planned Games:
* Supernatural Mafia
* Lights Out Mafia PERMA-REMOVED
* Zai's Mafia -> PERMA-REMOVED
* WIFOM Mafia
* Eversion Mafia -> PERMA-REMOVED
* Kodak Mafia -> PERMA-REMOVED
* BYOR: Choices -> QUEUE
* Illuminatus
* Multipick Mafia -> SIGNUPS
* ExKirby BYOR II
* Prism
Third Party Mafia -> SIGNUPS
Post by: Vector on February 02, 2010, 04:29:36 pm
GlyphGryph's Quick Bastard -> RUNNING
Post by: dakarian on February 02, 2010, 04:43:50 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on February 02, 2010, 04:44:25 pm
Post by: dakarian on February 02, 2010, 04:51:09 pm
BYOR: Choices - that won't run until Webadict and ExKirby's games are done.
Of course, I always have other Bastard Puzzles in my head as well, with two different concepts that can turn into games:
1. A game where the mafia kills via a trigger during the day and the town has to decide based on a clue.
i.e. Town is told this at the start:
The Mafioso can either:
1. at night, can choose to kill any person that has at least one vote on them, multiple kills allowed.
OR
2. at night, can choose to kill any person that has NO votes on them, , multiple kills allowed.
The mafia is told which one they are but the town must figure it out.
yes, the chance of the game ending in one night is VERY great :D.
Other idea: A game based around the ability (or need) to edit your posts.
Post by: Vector on February 02, 2010, 05:01:02 pm
What was Sudden Death, again? I remember Boot Camp, but I can't quite remember what the other one was.
Post by: Mr.Person on February 02, 2010, 05:06:26 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 02, 2010, 05:10:34 pm
And vector said there are more games in sign-ups than are on the last - consensus on whether or not I should postpone?
Post by: Leafsnail on February 02, 2010, 05:15:18 pm
I think it was Dakarian, but somebody posted a scripty thingy that handed out roles randomly. Could somebody eb a doll and repost the link?Is it this one?
http://adv-random-gen.sourceforge.net/rand-gen/index.php?gen=mafia
Post by: Vector on February 02, 2010, 05:15:48 pm
I guess we should really only count 4 of those, so you might as well put 'er out there, and I'll put your game reasonably high on the list.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on February 02, 2010, 05:36:30 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on February 02, 2010, 05:44:11 pm
Post by: webadict on February 02, 2010, 06:19:11 pm
Ah--Kingmaker and BMIX are in signups, as well, though I have no idea if/when Kingmaker is going to be taken out of Frozen status.I could take it out of Frozen status, I suppose, but there didn't seem like enough players to warrant it.
I guess we should really only count 4 of those, so you might as well put 'er out there, and I'll put your game reasonably high on the list.
Post by: dakarian on February 02, 2010, 06:24:38 pm
Both games are built for training purposes. Boot Camp is to practice the day game and advocate general town play while Sudden Death focuses on combating other players in the scumhunting process.
I prefer both to show at once (especially since SD only needs 3 active players and a few folks who like to critique) but if only one goes up, I want Boot Camp.
Post by: Mr.Person on February 02, 2010, 06:29:24 pm
Post by: dakarian on February 02, 2010, 07:31:10 pm
Post by: Org on February 02, 2010, 07:46:58 pm
Post by: CobaltKobold on February 02, 2010, 07:55:16 pm
Are we ever going to have another S Rank vote?'course
Post by: webadict on February 02, 2010, 08:35:44 pm
Are we ever going to have another S Rank vote?We initiate when necessary.
... I'm really hoping you're not expecting in.
Post by: Vector on February 02, 2010, 08:56:38 pm
I could take it out of Frozen status, I suppose, but there didn't seem like enough players to warrant it.
6/9? That should really be enough to expect filled signups soon-ish.
Post by: webadict on February 02, 2010, 09:10:28 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 03, 2010, 08:24:17 pm
Are we ever going to have another S Rank vote?
-1
Post by: Org on February 03, 2010, 08:30:24 pm
Are we ever going to have another S Rank vote?+1
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 03, 2010, 08:40:34 pm
Nobody loves you.I AM FUNNY BECAUSE I EDIT OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTSAre we ever going to have another S Rank vote?-1
Post by: Org on February 03, 2010, 08:41:32 pm
:INobody loves you.I AM FUNNY BECAUSE I EDIT OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTSAre we ever going to have another S Rank vote?-1
Post by: Mephansteras on February 03, 2010, 08:42:13 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 03, 2010, 08:42:31 pm
:I:II love you.I AM FUNNY BECAUSE I EDIT OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTSAre we ever going to have another S Rank vote?-1
Post by: Org on February 03, 2010, 08:44:39 pm
:I:I:II love you.I AM FUNNY BECAUSE I EDIT OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTSAre we ever going to have another S Rank vote?-1
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 03, 2010, 08:45:41 pm
:I:I:I:II :I you.:IAre we ever going to have another :I Rank :I?:I
Post by: Org on February 03, 2010, 08:46:40 pm
:I:I:II :I you.:IAre we ever going to have another :I Rank :I?:I
:I
Post by: webadict on February 03, 2010, 09:40:58 pm
Post by: dakarian on February 04, 2010, 06:08:56 pm
Active
Paranormal 13 (D2)
Rysith's (D4)
Horrible Role Mafia (D2)
Aztec Mafia (D3)
BYOR 3 - (N2)
Signups
Kingmaker Mafia (6/9)
Third Party Mafia (6/8)
Infiltrate/seek/elminate (1/11)
Multipick Mafia (5/7)
Toon Mafia (6/11)
A few things to note: We have a LARGE number of games in signups, with about 6 people already in but not QUITE enough.
Out of sheer MADNESS, I also grabbed the currently active players and their statuses:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Summary:
38 people currently involved in at least one game, whether they are signed up, alive, or dead
15 people signed up to play at least one game that has not started yet
7 people who are dead in at least one game but aren't playing in or signed up for a game.
Average number of games people are involved in (including dead): 2
# of players who are alive/signuped in less than the average: 21
In case it's asked: vector is the most active at the moment with 10 games he's involved in.
If everyone who is active joined 2 games, there would be enough activity for 7 games with one more in signups with 6 people in it. That's assuming 10 people per game (an average of the 9-11 that most games fall under).
Note about that average: most players play 1 active game currently, but some people play 5 or more.
Last thing on the games..
Active:
Quirky: 1 (Horrible Role, BYOR)
Role heavy Normal:2 (Paranormal, Aztec)
Bastard: 1 (Rysith)
Signups:
Quirky: 5 Kingmaker, Toon, Third Party, ISE, Multipick
Note, I basically just did a widescan and haven't even begun analysis on it.
Post by: Org on February 04, 2010, 06:10:33 pm
Current games and their situations:Night 3 on AM
Active
Paranormal 13 (D2)
Rysith's (D4)
Horrible Role Mafia (D2)
Aztec Mafia (D3)
BYOR 3 - (N2)
Signups
Kingmaker Mafia (6/9)
Third Party Mafia (6/8)
Infiltrate/seek/elminate (1/11)
Multipick Mafia (5/7)
Toon Mafia (6/11)
A few things to note: We have a LARGE number of games in signups, with about 6 people already in but not QUITE enough.
Out of sheer MADNESS, I also grabbed the currently active players and their statuses:Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Summary:
38 people currently involved in at least one game, whether they are signed up, alive, or dead
15 people signed up to play at least one game that has not started yet
7 people who are dead in at least one game but aren't playing in or signed up for a game.
Average number of games people are involved in (including dead): 2
# of players who are alive/signuped in less than the average: 21
In case it's asked: vector is the most active at the moment with 10 games he's involved in.
If everyone who is active joined 2 games, there would be enough activity for 7 games with one more in signups with 6 people in it. That's assuming 10 people per game (an average of the 9-11 that most games fall under).
Note about that average: most players play 1 active game currently, but some people play 5 or more.
Last thing on the games..
Active:
Quirky: 1 (Horrible Role, BYOR)
Role heavy Normal:2 (Paranormal, Aztec)
Bastard: 1 (Rysith)
Signups:
Quirky: 5 Kingmaker, Toon, Third Party, ISE, Multipick
Note, I basically just did a widescan and haven't even begun analysis on it.
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 04, 2010, 06:19:23 pm
Post by: Zai on February 04, 2010, 06:22:00 pm
Dak, it seems like you're definition of "quirky" is just a closed setup. What makes BYOR3 more quirky than Paranormal except that Para's open and BYOR's closed? The pre-game mechanic of choosing a rolename doesn't really make it quirky; once the game starts, it's just like any other closed setup.
Actually. That only applies to the active ones. But why are closed setups automatically put under "quirky"?
Post by: ToonyMan on February 04, 2010, 06:33:17 pm
Post by: dakarian on February 04, 2010, 06:42:50 pm
I mean, Toon has a MUCH better chance of going crazy (i.e. slipping a miniDelphy AND a touch of Bastardry to boot).
Note that ISE is also on the fence, since most of the roles are traditional, but the setup overall, has enough quirks to push it closer to the Quirky rating.
SMALL bit of analysis:
Perhaps focusing on types of games will help balance things out. Role Heavy gets the most flex since that's always the staple for Bay 12. Having 1 BYOR and 1 Bastard works well I think. We should have more Traditional setups though. As Such, my next game will be Near Mountainous (yes, that means put it on the que). When I get the green light I'll put that ONE game up. Next game to go up will be Boot Camp. Last will be Sudden Death.
Post by: Eduren on February 04, 2010, 06:47:00 pm
I mean, Toon has a MUCH better chance of going crazy (i.e. slipping a miniDelphy AND a touch of Bastardry to boot).The way I understand it, bastardry has to do with the mod actually saying lies and half-truths. I promise none of that in TM6.
Post by: ToonyMan on February 04, 2010, 06:54:32 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on February 04, 2010, 06:55:58 pm
Quote
Sane Cop - You're a sane cop, for real. Can't have this type of mafia without a honest cop to stop scum like a vig. You also have to end each sentence with "desu".EVERYTHING IN THIS ROLE PM WAS A LIE
Post by: ToonyMan on February 04, 2010, 06:59:37 pm
Post by: dakarian on February 04, 2010, 07:00:40 pm
Bellsounder, for example, WAS a bastard mod. I didn't lie and actually hid very little, but you don't tend to expect everyone to revive over and over, and you do NOT expect a person to be able to revive THEMSELVES. You also don't expect the mafia to win by keeping everyone alive.
The cops in the last Toon mafia was bastardly, especially with the quasi-Delphy setup inside it. I know I heavily enjoyed it btw.
Post by: Neruz on February 04, 2010, 07:05:07 pm
Post by: Org on February 04, 2010, 07:08:42 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on February 04, 2010, 07:10:00 pm
What are everyone's thoughts on me running MSPA Mafia 2, after first writing up some roles for the newly introduced characters. Everyone seemed to like the first one, and Multipick isn't going anywhere, probably because we're all tired of BYOR style games.Sounds good. Needs some passed around items though, methinks.
Post by: ToonyMan on February 04, 2010, 07:12:13 pm
What are everyone's thoughts on me running MSPA Mafia 2, after first writing up some roles for the newly introduced characters. Everyone seemed to like the first one, and Multipick isn't going anywhere, probably because we're all tired of BYOR style games.Sounds good. Needs some passed around items though, methinks.
I'd be in it, the first one was enjoyable.
Post by: Leafsnail on February 04, 2010, 07:14:15 pm
Not for some people.Eh, kinda suspected I was naive from the flavour text, to be honest.
Post by: ToonyMan on February 04, 2010, 07:15:58 pm
Not for some people.Eh, kinda suspected I was naive from the flavour text, to be honest.
I gave everyone the same flavor text.
You just all interpret things different hehehe.
Post by: Leafsnail on February 04, 2010, 07:35:56 pm
Quote
Webadict is always the best choice to do first night. Doesn't matter if everyone else does, just matters that you do. You head to his sea restaurant and sneak around his bedroom. Him sleeping snugly. You can't see anything incriminating, so you're going to have to say that Webadict is town.
Post by: ToonyMan on February 04, 2010, 07:39:20 pm
Post by: dakarian on February 04, 2010, 07:52:26 pm
Sidenote: I probably need to start joining games again. If I do it'll be a crazy go nutz.
Post by: Neruz on February 04, 2010, 08:21:18 pm
Also MrPerson just suggested a Dethy Spiral game, oh sweet jesus god help us.
Post by: Leafsnail on February 04, 2010, 08:29:07 pm
Post by: Neruz on February 04, 2010, 08:32:53 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 04, 2010, 08:34:06 pm
Guaranteed fun, or your money back!
^_^
So would someone explain what Dethy is?
Post by: Vector on February 04, 2010, 09:07:31 pm
What are everyone's thoughts on me running MSPA Mafia 2, after first writing up some roles for the newly introduced characters. Everyone seemed to like the first one, and Multipick isn't going anywhere, probably because we're all tired of BYOR style games.
RUN IT.
Additionally: agreement to Dakarian on some sort of attempt to standardize game setups.
Post by: Neruz on February 04, 2010, 09:20:14 pm
What are everyone's thoughts on me running MSPA Mafia 2, after first writing up some roles for the newly introduced characters. Everyone seemed to like the first one, and Multipick isn't going anywhere, probably because we're all tired of BYOR style games.
RUN IT.
Kay. (http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=49067.0)
Post by: Mephansteras on February 05, 2010, 08:11:18 pm
Post by: Neruz on February 05, 2010, 08:14:08 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on February 06, 2010, 01:06:22 pm
Post by: Vector on February 06, 2010, 01:26:28 pm
Can I have permission to move Second Chance II into the queue? Or are there any earlier games ahead of it?
If by queue you mean "not signups," you should feel free. As-is, though, we've got another few games that really want filling with no distractions (also, we're about to start a handful). So, in other words, please wait a touch ;)
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 06, 2010, 01:27:48 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on February 06, 2010, 01:40:12 pm
Post by: Vector on February 06, 2010, 01:43:41 pm
Into queue. Not signups. Signups won't start until at least after I get back from Washington, possibly longer.
So, to be honest, I think the general rules around here are "talk about where on the queue your game goes, but you can move it on at any time." The only time when you really need permission is in asking if something can get signups, and so on.
In other words, just do it. Don't worry about it >_>
Post by: dakarian on February 06, 2010, 08:06:26 pm
Development = the game has been suggested, but you're still ironing out the issues with the game or testing to see if there's much interest in it.
Queue = You finished working on the game and can start it at any time. You CANNOT start signups yet, though. Picture a check-out line at a store: you are ready to buy the stuff you have but have to wait in line. Queue= that line.
You can put any game(s) you want into the queue. Just declare when you wish to do so.
Green-light = When a game can start signups. That's determined by the community as a whole (no one really leads it, though, imo, Vector's VERY good at getting a feel for when things should be). This is the point where you need permission.
After that point, you can start signups. From there, the game is active and you are free to run it as you wish.
So yes, you can put Second Chance into Que, but you'll have to wait a bit. IMO it will be a bit since we're just getting the last batch of games to start running. I believe, though, that you'll be going at around the same time as one of my games (Boot Camp).
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 06, 2010, 08:09:51 pm
Do fix that please.
And you typed Que again. Stop it.
Post by: CobaltKobold on February 06, 2010, 09:21:18 pm
ANARCHY
Post by: Org on February 06, 2010, 10:34:26 pm
Post by: Org on February 07, 2010, 12:16:17 pm
Post by: Eduren on February 07, 2010, 06:51:20 pm
6/11 people.
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 07, 2010, 07:15:42 pm
Post by: Vector on February 07, 2010, 08:21:34 pm
No love for Toon Mafia?
6/11 people.
I'd keep hanging on--we need just two more for Kingmaker, and that's been trying to fill for months, now. MSPA just started, as well and Third-Party, so my guess is that when Semi-Bastard ends Toon and I/S/E will get more folks.
Post by: webadict on February 07, 2010, 10:22:46 pm
Actually, it only needs one!No love for Toon Mafia?
6/11 people.
I'd keep hanging on--we need just two more for Kingmaker, and that's been trying to fill for months, now. MSPA just started, as well and Third-Party, so my guess is that when Semi-Bastard ends Toon and I/S/E will get more folks.
Post by: Vector on February 07, 2010, 10:24:07 pm
Post by: webadict on February 07, 2010, 10:24:49 pm
If you still accept ExKirby after his drop in rank, then yes. I'll go fix the signboard thinger...... Well... well then, no.
I just need TWO more now, which is one step up from where I was.
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 08, 2010, 01:59:44 am
Would anyone else be interested in me throwing together another quick bastard? I've got an interest twist/setup growing in my mind
Post by: Vector on February 08, 2010, 02:07:23 am
Well, thats another game down...
Would anyone else be interested in me throwing together another quick bastard? I've got an interest twist/setup growing in my mind
I'd be interested, though in a bit. I think we're slightly glutted at the moment.
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 08, 2010, 02:07:54 am
Post by: webadict on February 08, 2010, 02:14:56 am
Bitches need to join KM.This.
Plus, Third Party is over. We now have a record for fastest game ever.
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 08, 2010, 02:18:00 am
Post by: webadict on February 08, 2010, 02:30:30 am
My uPick could've been as fast but I decided that only the town/mafia win condition is able to end the game.Mine was 5 pages long and only two days.
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 08, 2010, 02:31:50 am
And don't talk in pages, it's confusing to people with different Posts Per Page values. <_<;
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 08, 2010, 02:33:37 am
And don't talk in pages, it's confusing to people with different Posts Per Page values. <_<;
:P Turns out Third Party barely made it into the second page.
Post by: webadict on February 08, 2010, 02:42:12 am
Wait, why are you talking about your BYOR?I was talking about Third Party
And don't talk in pages, it's confusing to people with different Posts Per Page values. <_<;
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 08, 2010, 01:06:57 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on February 08, 2010, 03:02:58 pm
Post by: Zai on February 08, 2010, 05:36:54 pm
My uPick could've been as fast but I decided that only the town/mafia win condition is able to end the game.=D
Failure of a town was a failure. I won a long time before anyone else.
Post by: Leafsnail on February 08, 2010, 05:39:50 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 08, 2010, 08:25:17 pm
No Advance Dopp- er, Envy replacement, town win, lyncher win, jester win, survivor win.
Post by: Leafsnail on February 08, 2010, 08:29:46 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 08, 2010, 08:45:16 pm
Between:
Cheeetar's Sleeping Mod (har har) powers
RedWarrior0 as a survivor who has a one-shot kill-immunity and investigates his killer
Neruz the redirector
SHAD0Wdump the busser
Bayer the Nuclear Rocket Surgeon
Mr.Person being able to investigate (possibly exposing Mafia to gain credibility before dropping a lynch on his target, Eduren)
Meph having the ability to clear Dak and disrupt scum's vigclaims with day-forensics
Dak having a one-shot daykill (even with it's chance of random redirection it could technically by randomed to the same person or another scum, or even to scum if he targeted town)
Apostolic Nihilist with his crazy JOAT-Evolution power (and even being able to draw Poisoner)
Toony's roleblocks
Webadict's Supercop powers (you should've lynched Org for blocking him repeatedly, you know)
Eduren's pardons
The awful things Zai could do if you hadn't lynched him so soon
Rashilul's RTD player craziness (including his ability to sane-investigate and role-investigate his hammerer or killer without even dying on a 5 role)
ExKirby's medium-powers
Org being scum and having everyone told what he does (you should've lynched him for blocking Webadict repeatedly, you know)
Pretty much every player had a way they could fuck the scum up, even if they were neutral. Most of them just didn't.
It was theoretically possible for the scum to lose d2 with no townies dead, though not with Jester/Lyncher victory. I can explain it if you don't believe me.
Post by: Org on February 08, 2010, 08:47:27 pm
They bought the rng stuff.
Post by: Zai on February 08, 2010, 08:52:33 pm
The awful things Zai could do if you hadn't lynched him so soonI wanted to force Talk Like a Pirate Day, but I also wanted to make sure I wasn't NKed.
It truly was a tough decision.
Post by: Leafsnail on February 08, 2010, 08:54:15 pm
Leafsnail is lynched day one
Vector (or whoever he was originally) accidentally killed by teammate (busser)
Org daykilled by dak
GlyphGryph lynched day two
Yup, possible.
Actually, although I've said that me replacing early was for WIFOM or RP, it was actually mainly because I wanted to minimize the chance of getting screwed over by a weird effect. And to grab a new ability for scum.
Post by: Vector on February 08, 2010, 08:55:21 pm
Ok...
Leafsnail is lynched day one
Vector (or whoever he was originally) accidentally killed by teammate
Org daykilled by dak
GlyphGryph lynched day two
Yup, possible.
...
Vector was always Vector. I think you mean "CK lynched D2."
Post by: Zai on February 08, 2010, 08:58:53 pm
Actually, although I've said that me replacing early was for WIFOM or RP, it was actually mainly because I wanted to minimize the chance of getting screwed over by a weird effect. And to grab a new ability for scum.I recognized you were scum and told EK, Medium For Hire, Night 1 and would have had him share with town my irrefutable points Day 2...had you not switched immediately.
Post by: Leafsnail on February 08, 2010, 09:05:27 pm
Also, you get kinda careless when you know you're extremely unlikely to ever get lynched for your actions.
I had an elaborate plan involving a Yuki Nagato falseclaim with a weirdly similar ability to that of RedWarrior0, which I'd use in order to frame someone as scum, but I realized that this would probably result in me being blocked.
Post by: dakarian on February 08, 2010, 10:59:34 pm
Post by: Zai on February 08, 2010, 11:01:54 pm
Similar goes for 'certain' other players.
Post by: dakarian on February 08, 2010, 11:14:03 pm
Though in truth I still blame inactivity for killing the town. It's a new pet theory: if there's 3 inactives and/or one day lasts more than a week and/or the thread 'dies' at any point, the town will NEVER recover and will fail horribly.
The rush of Town wins after we found a way to keep the games more active + seeing a few games get hit with inactivity and seeing the town fail due to it is helping that theory.
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 08, 2010, 11:15:14 pm
If Org is acting scummy, we lynch him. It worked to correct other players' playstyles, it should fix his as well....
Post by: CobaltKobold on February 09, 2010, 12:31:47 am
I was confused when they didn't lynch me even though I blocked him TWICE.And claimed to have intended to, but failed to confirm, blocking the night between.
They bought the rng stuff.
Besides, blocking someone you think is scummy isn't exactly bad.
Mmm, that was a fun game.
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 09, 2010, 01:47:08 am
Post by: webadict on February 09, 2010, 10:14:08 am
CobaltKobold: His fault for acting like scum. I'm not accepting "He's scummy as fuck but he's Org" any more.I would like to say I was right about the two scummy people, Org and SHAD0Wdump. No one believed me, but nooooo.
Post by: Leafsnail on February 09, 2010, 10:53:27 am
Post by: webadict on February 09, 2010, 10:56:11 am
How was SHADOWdump?He was using a three-word limitation. He always adds a stupid thing when he's not town, because it's apparently a good idea.
Post by: dakarian on February 09, 2010, 11:08:34 am
About Shadow, I call MEH on this one since you stated that you would want him gone even if he was town since he's not useful. That's a quick and easy way for me to disrupt a lynch. Now if that was his scummeta, that would've been different.
Though I'll note that Shadow went hyperlurk at around D2 so it was impossible to read him anyway. uPick was the final straw that got me focused on making the Attendance system in the first place. When someone lurks, I want to know that a lurker that's not being prodded or replaced can be safely lynched as scum.
Post by: webadict on February 09, 2010, 11:20:30 am
About Org: in Day 3 I agreed with you. I just got distracted by the 'cop'. I try to not get caught up being gullible and failed :/.Yeah, I wanted SHAD0W gone BECAUSE he does that. It's what he does, and he thinks he's a genius for coming up with anti-Town things to do that NO ONE THINKS IS SCUMMY. It's why Org survived. It's basically because everyone sucks.
About Shadow, I call MEH on this one since you stated that you would want him gone even if he was town since he's not useful. That's a quick and easy way for me to disrupt a lynch. Now if that was his scummeta, that would've been different.
Though I'll note that Shadow went hyperlurk at around D2 so it was impossible to read him anyway. uPick was the final straw that got me focused on making the Attendance system in the first place. When someone lurks, I want to know that a lurker that's not being prodded or replaced can be safely lynched as scum.
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 09, 2010, 11:50:16 am
Turns out you're correct fairly often. But then there're the times you're disasterously wrong (a la Paranormal about three ago). Just need to figure out which are whichCobaltKobold: His fault for acting like scum. I'm not accepting "He's scummy as fuck but he's Org" any more.I would like to say I was right about the two scummy people, Org and SHAD0Wdump. No one believed me, but nooooo.
Post by: webadict on February 09, 2010, 12:19:55 pm
Meh. It evens out more in my favor than not.Turns out you're correct fairly often. But then there're the times you're disasterously wrong (a la Paranormal about three ago). Just need to figure out which are whichCobaltKobold: His fault for acting like scum. I'm not accepting "He's scummy as fuck but he's Org" any more.I would like to say I was right about the two scummy people, Org and SHAD0Wdump. No one believed me, but nooooo.
Post by: dakarian on February 09, 2010, 01:40:23 pm
He's probably easier to work out once you look less at his status and more at what he's actually saying.
Shadow shouldn't have been lynched D1 due to his 3 word mess (too easy to turn that into a policy lynch) BUT he should've been pushed HARD D2. Org should've been simply slaughtered D3 and the 'cop' should've been left for D4 (never give up a sure scum for any reason, even if another scum is given up)
Post by: Mephansteras on February 09, 2010, 01:42:18 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on February 09, 2010, 01:43:28 pm
Post by: dakarian on February 09, 2010, 01:45:24 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on February 09, 2010, 02:11:38 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 09, 2010, 02:12:14 pm
Dak: So you think 4/19 was still too much? [Ninja'd by Leafy]
And Web, you were wrong about SHAD0Wdump - he made that stupid fake restriction (for reasons unknown to me) when he was still town.
Post by: webadict on February 09, 2010, 02:15:56 pm
Hrmm.He still shouldn't make up that crap.
Dak: So you think 4/19 was still too much? [Ninja'd by Leafy]
And Web, you were wrong about SHAD0Wdump - he made that stupid fake restriction (for reasons unknown to me) when he was still town.
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 09, 2010, 03:08:17 pm
But you were wrong about him being scum when you first said he should be lynched.
Post by: ToonyMan on February 09, 2010, 04:42:06 pm
The rest of the time I was better dead. Unless I got horrible luck, which I always do.
UNLUCKY IS ALWAYS UNLUCKY
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 09, 2010, 07:20:54 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 09, 2010, 07:36:40 pm
even with scumbuddies to help me out there was a lot of pages of posts to sift through...
Understatement of the year.
Post by: Vector on February 09, 2010, 09:28:56 pm
Looking at our current levels of games:
* Rysith's Semi-Bastard Mafia - end?
* Horrible Role Mafia end?
* Paranormal 13 - end
* Web's BYOR - mid
* MSPA Mafia -=2=- - early
* Kingmaker - early
Running. My guess is that I/S/E is going to fill soon, and after that I'm going to recommend putting another one or two games into signups simultaneously--one of the BYOR-style games, and something else.
The reason why I say this is that BMIX is about to start, and I/S/E is three from full. With the end of HR, Semi-Bastard, and Paranormal coming up, it seems like we need another game or two to get ready for signups quickish.
Any volunteers?
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 09, 2010, 09:30:15 pm
Illuminatus is still in dev stage.
Post by: Org on February 09, 2010, 09:44:15 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on February 09, 2010, 10:05:03 pm
Post by: dakarian on February 09, 2010, 10:22:08 pm
We had decided that BYOR type games get their own 'queue' in a way. As such once BYOR 3 ends, ExKirby is the next to run his BYOR.
Same goes for bastard/crazy types. Once Rysith's game ends, we'll need a new crazy-go-nutz. Anyone have a Bastard game they want up?
IMO Para can always go into the queue the second the last one ends. There MAY be times to put a small delay but let's face it: that's our bread and butter.
To sum up:
Boot Camp starts after one of the games ends.
Someone's Bastard Mod can start once Semi-bastard ends.
ExKirby's BYOR goes up once Web's BYOR ends.
and Para needs to be Queued though we'll see how things go once Para 13 ends.
Post by: Eduren on February 09, 2010, 10:24:24 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 09, 2010, 10:35:37 pm
Should I start iPick signups under the "one or two other games" category?
Post by: Mr.Person on February 09, 2010, 11:10:14 pm
Post by: Vector on February 10, 2010, 12:14:08 am
KingmakerMafia ACTIVE
iPick QUEUE
Boot Camp Mafia SIGNUPS
ExKirby BYOR II QUEUE
Paranormal XIV (having caught up with Final Fantasy.. >_>) SIGNUPS
WIFOM Mafia QUEUE
We really need to run a Boot Camp soon, and it hits a niche that isn't really filled by any other games. Seems like a good idea.
Now, are we running that with or without mentors?
I think the other queued games have niche clashes with stuff we're already trying to sign, so it's not such a good idea to start them up just yet.
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 10, 2010, 12:25:55 am
Post by: Vector on February 10, 2010, 12:54:27 am
Post by: CobaltKobold on February 10, 2010, 01:11:28 am
Post by: Vector on February 10, 2010, 01:20:38 am
*rums up enthusiasm for sequel to IMBMM(BM(M))*
GAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH RUN IT
Post by: RedWarrior0 on February 10, 2010, 11:05:14 am
Post by: Leafsnail on February 10, 2010, 11:17:57 am
Post by: dakarian on February 10, 2010, 09:54:11 pm
And yes, we'll go ahead and try Mentors.
Post by: dakarian on February 11, 2010, 05:27:16 pm
Meanwhile I'll be waiting for the green light for Near-Mountainous.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on February 11, 2010, 05:52:28 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 11, 2010, 06:05:39 pm
Consider Boot Camp active at this point.
Meanwhile I'll be waiting for the green light for Near-Mountainous.
NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW
Is iPick in signups? That's what the first post says.
Is it? I wasn't alerted of this. I requested a go-ahead but never was told it had happened.
Post by: Mephansteras on February 11, 2010, 06:06:38 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 11, 2010, 06:07:53 pm
Post by: Org on February 11, 2010, 08:36:51 pm
Quote
Wizard Duel 4Nice.
And put Hamlet Mafia in planned games please.
Post by: Vector on February 11, 2010, 09:37:40 pm
We've got three games right now that need only two more players to run, so that they can get off the damned signboard and into play. These are:
Multipick (Neruz)
I//S//E (GlyphGryph)
Boot Camp (Dakarian)
Now, I'm almost 100% certain that Boot Camp will be pretty easy to fill, but on the other hand Multipick and I/S/E have been waiting for a damned long time, and it'd be nice to get them filled up and started.
</not-so-subtle hint>
Additionally, I'm thinking that we might want to remove Squeegy's Werewolf from signups, given that it's been on there for what seems like a month or so now, and really hasn't had the needed success. Toon Mafia/Kingmaker is one thing, but a 9p game that can't get more than 4/9 desired players is another.
Most games have been filling well recently. I'm especially pleased with the quick initial fill for iPick, as well as the up-swing for I/S/E.
Consider Boot Camp active at this point.
Meanwhile I'll be waiting for the green light for Near-Mountainous.
Needs to wait a little while. We're hitting a game glut, and my goal is to get rid of this terrible Signboard stagnation that's been happening.
Once Semi-Bastard ends and a couple of the other games that have been sitting around get dealt with, I think it'll be time for Near-Mountainous again. As-is, though, Kingmaker is currently filling that vanilla-style slot, with Boot Camp taking the slightly-lower-rank version of the niche. I think you'd be able to get the necessary players, but might have a touch of activity trouble.
Post by: dakarian on February 11, 2010, 10:30:58 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on February 11, 2010, 11:03:54 pm
NP. I'm just happy to host something again. It felt Ugly to look at the game list and see nothing that I was involved in.
I felt weird when I realized I wasn't actually playing in any games either.
Post by: Org on February 12, 2010, 08:51:21 pm
Post by: Neruz on February 13, 2010, 06:17:10 pm
Post by: Vector on February 13, 2010, 06:19:55 pm
Here seems as good a spot as any. MSPA Mafia 2 requires someone to replace ExKirby, as he has apparantly vanished.
GAH I AM WRITING IT UP IN THE REPLACEMENTS THREAD OKAY BUT I DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO EVERYTHING SIMULTANEOUSLY AT ONCE I AM JUST ONE WOMAN
</rant>
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 13, 2010, 06:23:40 pm
I AM JUST ONE WOMAN
Or.... ARE YOU!?
Post by: Neruz on February 13, 2010, 06:24:16 pm
Here seems as good a spot as any. MSPA Mafia 2 requires someone to replace ExKirby, as he has apparantly vanished.
GAH I AM WRITING IT UP IN THE REPLACEMENTS THREAD OKAY BUT I DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO EVERYTHING SIMULTANEOUSLY AT ONCE I AM JUST ONE WOMAN
</rant>
*Pats Vector on head*
There there.
Post by: Vector on February 13, 2010, 06:27:02 pm
I AM JUST ONE WOMAN
Or.... ARE YOU!?
You... you caught me! I'm actually a giant squid. I'll leave now.
Post by: Eduren on February 13, 2010, 07:41:49 pm
Post by: CobaltKobold on February 13, 2010, 08:06:22 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on February 13, 2010, 08:12:19 pm
Post by: Org on February 13, 2010, 08:26:58 pm
So, another planned game, Senate Mafia, if you will Meph.
Post by: Vector on February 14, 2010, 12:34:51 am
Post by: dakarian on February 14, 2010, 12:56:01 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 14, 2010, 01:02:17 am
Post by: Neruz on February 14, 2010, 07:23:57 am
Post by: webadict on February 14, 2010, 10:11:09 am
Also, Org replaced in for ExKirby in BYOR3
Post by: Org on February 14, 2010, 01:21:56 pm
Post by: Eduren on February 14, 2010, 01:24:01 pm
Meph, Eduren, Mr Person, any of you want to replace ExKirby in MSPA Mafia?Don't follow MSPA.
Post by: ToonyMan on February 14, 2010, 01:53:32 pm
Meph, Eduren, Mr Person, any of you want to replace ExKirby in MSPA Mafia?Don't follow MSPA.
Why does that matter?
Post by: Vector on February 14, 2010, 02:25:48 pm
It needs 5 more people to start the awesomeness.
Post by: Eduren on February 14, 2010, 02:31:26 pm
Don't know. Does it?Why does that matter?Meph, Eduren, Mr Person, any of you want to replace ExKirby in MSPA Mafia?Don't follow MSPA.
Post by: ToonyMan on February 14, 2010, 02:33:39 pm
Don't know. Does it?Why does that matter?Meph, Eduren, Mr Person, any of you want to replace ExKirby in MSPA Mafia?Don't follow MSPA.
No.
Post by: Eduren on February 14, 2010, 02:36:15 pm
Post by: Vector on February 14, 2010, 02:38:12 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on February 14, 2010, 02:38:33 pm
Meph, Eduren, Mr Person, any of you want to replace ExKirby in MSPA Mafia?Don't follow MSPA.
Why'd you say this then. :V
Post by: Eduren on February 14, 2010, 02:46:41 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on February 14, 2010, 02:50:15 pm
Post by: Org on February 15, 2010, 04:56:55 pm
Oh, what good times we had with Josh.
High Fives Webadict and Nuke
Post by: Eduren on February 15, 2010, 11:37:29 pm
COME JOIN TOON MAFIA RAWWWRRRRRR.Awesomeness is guaranteed!
It needs 5 more people to start the awesomeness.
Post by: Vector on February 16, 2010, 10:05:15 pm
INFILTRATE//SEEK//ELIMINATE RUNNING
Hm... I think it's just about time to green-light BYOR: Choices, Paranormal XIV, and Near-Mountainous. Yes, all three. I'd wait a week or so after the end of Semi-Bastard (because of competition troubles with other games in signups for the large number of people currently in Semi-Bastard), but otherwise... well. It seems like a good time to put a BYOR in signups, since we're running up against Lylo in BYOR 3. Paranormal is non-competitive. Near-Mountainous is also non-competitive.
That said, I'm going to add a plug here for Multipick Mafia. It needs just one more person to go, and otherwise it'll probably have to be scrapped.
Post by: Org on February 16, 2010, 10:08:50 pm
Meh.
Post by: Vector on February 16, 2010, 10:09:13 pm
Scrap hamlet Mafia.
Meh.
Really? Why?
Post by: CobaltKobold on February 16, 2010, 11:02:11 pm
Post by: Org on February 16, 2010, 11:10:30 pm
Maybe...Scrap hamlet Mafia.
Meh.
Really? Why?
It was going to be fun, but I dont know.
If people want to play it, Ill give it a go, I guess.
Post by: Mr.Person on February 16, 2010, 11:15:17 pm
Post by: Org on February 16, 2010, 11:16:12 pm
I dont want anyone to know the roles.
I wont release them to be seen if I start it.
You will see them when you get them.
Post by: Mr.Person on February 16, 2010, 11:17:40 pm
No.
I dont want anyone to know the roles.
I wont release them to be seen if I start it.
You will see them when you get them.
I said if you don't want to run it. If you're going to run it, yeah, go for it.
Post by: Neruz on February 16, 2010, 11:32:26 pm
Post by: Vector on February 16, 2010, 11:33:46 pm
Post by: Neruz on February 16, 2010, 11:37:20 pm
Post by: Vector on February 16, 2010, 11:46:54 pm
There's no hurry Vector. That's the thing about forum Mafia, it's slow.
*sigh*
Yeah, but just one more.
Post by: Neruz on February 16, 2010, 11:54:55 pm
Post by: Vector on February 16, 2010, 11:57:07 pm
The 7 is minimum, i'd rather have 9 - 13.
... Really? Never mind, then...
Post by: dakarian on February 17, 2010, 06:41:25 am
I can fully see Para running btw.
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 17, 2010, 06:43:36 am
Post by: dakarian on February 17, 2010, 06:52:14 am
Post by: Mephansteras on February 17, 2010, 11:32:29 am
Post by: Org on February 17, 2010, 11:40:22 am
Post by: Rysith on February 18, 2010, 01:51:07 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 18, 2010, 09:18:10 pm
Post by: Vector on February 18, 2010, 09:19:23 pm
Whats on tap for bastards at the moment? I want to run another Quick Bastard, damn it. :P
No Bastards running or ready.
Post by: dakarian on February 18, 2010, 09:31:40 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 18, 2010, 10:57:58 pm
Post by: Eduren on February 19, 2010, 01:55:13 am
Post by: dakarian on February 19, 2010, 05:59:15 am
Holding back BYOR for now to let others by. Besides, Web's still isn't finished.
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 19, 2010, 10:57:10 am
Post by: Vector on February 19, 2010, 12:14:17 pm
I'd prefer to hit at least 11 so Great Fun can appear in my iPick.
Yeah, that's why Paranormal 14 and Nearly-Mountainous needed to open. They're there to give some buffer-time to the other open games.
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 19, 2010, 01:30:29 pm
Post by: Vector on February 19, 2010, 01:44:15 pm
I'm not entirely sure of what you just said or how it relates to my need for 11 players in iPick.
Basically, there's other games opened so that we don't get stuck with this hairy situation of you wanting players and nothing running as you wait for your specialized niche-group.
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 19, 2010, 01:45:56 pm
Post by: Org on February 19, 2010, 01:46:36 pm
But I wont change it as much if I run it.
I was just reading it again. Oh the times when we had Inaluct, Karlito, and others...and when we weren't so mean...
I realize how much I lurked back then. It was bit too much.
Post by: Org on February 19, 2010, 02:37:12 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 19, 2010, 05:07:23 pm
Post by: Org on February 19, 2010, 05:08:51 pm
Oh, back in those days, we had the best of players.
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 19, 2010, 05:09:33 pm
Post by: Org on February 19, 2010, 05:10:09 pm
We also broke like EVERY game because we had issues understanding balance back then. :B>.>
What? No...
Well, the Duke...and Child...and Sheriff...
Post by: Leafsnail on February 19, 2010, 05:13:45 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on February 19, 2010, 05:16:56 pm
times SEVEN BILLION
Post by: Mephansteras on February 19, 2010, 05:19:41 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 19, 2010, 05:23:34 pm
"Everyone say 'I am an elf' instead, okay?"
"GOD DAMN IT PANDARSENIC"
Post by: Zai on February 19, 2010, 05:54:56 pm
Pandar, do you remember DF Mafia Rounds 1, 2, 3, and 4?...What? This was less than a year ago.
Oh, back in those days, we had the best of players.
Post by: Org on February 19, 2010, 05:56:33 pm
But it is very much different than now.Pandar, do you remember DF Mafia Rounds 1, 2, 3, and 4?...What? This was less than a year ago.
Oh, back last year, we had the best of players.
Post by: webadict on February 19, 2010, 06:46:54 pm
We have evolved. We now know that scum need to be able to combat roles.But it is very much different than now.Pandar, do you remember DF Mafia Rounds 1, 2, 3, and 4?...What? This was less than a year ago.
Oh, back last year, we had the best of players.
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 19, 2010, 07:20:19 pm
Post by: dakarian on February 19, 2010, 07:24:57 pm
POWERS ALLMIGHTY AND THE WORLD IN FLAMES OF SLAUGHTER!
PREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNN!
Sidenote: No reason not to pull up some of the older games.
Post by: Zai on February 19, 2010, 07:38:07 pm
True fact: the next iPick I run is pulling randomly from TVTropes instead of Wikipedia YESSSSSU.Do that this one.
Maybe mix the results between the 2.
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 19, 2010, 07:40:29 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on February 19, 2010, 07:42:35 pm
Post by: Vector on February 19, 2010, 07:49:24 pm
Post by: Neruz on February 19, 2010, 08:02:37 pm
Post by: CobaltKobold on February 19, 2010, 08:06:31 pm
More than likely TVTropes would be fun.
I'm sure Vector would join wiktionary.
Post by: Leafsnail on February 19, 2010, 08:17:06 pm
Post by: Org on February 19, 2010, 08:27:32 pm
you could also DF iPick.I want to do this....maybe I will...
More than likely TVTropes would be fun.
I'm sure Vector would join wiktionary.
Post by: CobaltKobold on February 19, 2010, 09:00:51 pm
I demand Memetic Mutation! Or Naughty Tentacles! Or The Tokyo Fireball could be interesting...And I'll form the
Post by: Org on February 19, 2010, 09:03:01 pm
And it would definitely be interesting...
Post by: Vector on February 19, 2010, 09:05:38 pm
Off the DF wiki, I mean. When it gets back up (servermove in progress)I demand Memetic Mutation! Or Naughty Tentacles! Or The Tokyo Fireball could be interesting...And I'll form theheadZettai Ryouiki!
Hurgh >_>
A.T. FIERUDO APPU
Post by: Leafsnail on February 19, 2010, 09:20:22 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 19, 2010, 09:23:12 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on February 19, 2010, 11:11:24 pm
Post by: Org on February 19, 2010, 11:13:43 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on February 19, 2010, 11:21:57 pm
Post by: Neruz on February 19, 2010, 11:27:48 pm
Quote from: AAAAAAAA
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AAAAAA AAAA AAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAA AAA AAAAAAAAAA AAAAAA
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Post by: Pandarsenic on February 19, 2010, 11:33:39 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on February 19, 2010, 11:33:59 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 20, 2010, 07:39:17 am
SCP iPick.
Post by: ExKirby on February 20, 2010, 02:38:01 pm
Post by: Vector on February 20, 2010, 02:46:40 pm
I would like a Go-Ahead for Broken Bros.
I'm sorry, but this isn't a good time. We've already got enough weird setups running/in signups that can't get enough people, so I think you'd be better off waiting a little while.
Post by: ExKirby on February 20, 2010, 02:49:40 pm
Post by: CobaltKobold on February 20, 2010, 04:46:35 pm
iPick from Uncyclopedia or Encyclopedia Dramatica.I thought ED was going down for lack of funding.
Urbandictionary might be more likely to squick.
Post by: Org on February 20, 2010, 04:51:10 pm
So many games are frozen as they wait for sign upers.
Six Active Games
Six in Signup
Three in Queue
NM is in Sign Ups btw IIRC.
Post by: Vector on February 20, 2010, 04:55:09 pm
That's the thing: we're at peak run-capacity right now. It's generally dropped because multiple individuals have stopped playing so much Mafia: myself, Zai, Webadict, Cheeetar, Dakarian, and so on. As such, we're having some readjustment problems in the interim. Further, the attendance ranking board has severely cut down on lurker behavior in general.
The result is fewer games, with much less tendency to die (though I'll note that both Horrible Role and BYOR 3 are having serious trouble).
Post by: Org on February 20, 2010, 05:13:19 pm
Meaning me.
:I
Post by: Vector on February 20, 2010, 06:26:43 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on February 20, 2010, 06:29:08 pm
Post by: Vector on February 20, 2010, 06:29:58 pm
I don't know if that's it, since Paranormal doesn't have any rank restrictions and it's still only at 9/14 spots. And most of those filled spots are A or S rank.
Midterms, maybe? I know I personally went "I just had midterms, time to go start studying like hell." I'm wondering if others had similar experiences.
Post by: Org on February 20, 2010, 06:31:47 pm
Yeah, I know. I'm considering suggesting that most games be for B and up, because as-is it's making things ridiculous.:I
Post by: Vector on February 20, 2010, 06:33:06 pm
Yeah, I know. I'm considering suggesting that most games be for B and up, because as-is it's making things ridiculous.:I
I meant IF they have restrictions (though the real point is a deterrent, I believe). On the other hand, once the winter season is over (just one more month to go), your rank will reset and I'm sure you'll be better about activity and so on.
Post by: Org on February 20, 2010, 06:33:41 pm
Maybe...Yeah, I know. I'm considering suggesting that most games be for B and up, because as-is it's making things ridiculous.:I
I meant IF they have restrictions (though the real point is a deterrent, I believe). On the other hand, once the winter season is over (just one more month to go), your rank will reset and I'm sure you'll be better about activity and so on.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on February 20, 2010, 07:08:25 pm
Post by: Vector on February 20, 2010, 07:13:10 pm
The ranks in this thread will be preserved, though, so somebody like web might make games that require certain rank in the previous season.
Pfaugh, he'd better not. That's kind of ridiculous... but he won't be able to get you on the 3rd season, then >_>
Post by: Org on February 20, 2010, 07:13:50 pm
MWAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Eduren on February 20, 2010, 07:50:28 pm
Yeah, I know. I'm considering suggesting that most games be for B and up, because as-is it's making things ridiculous.
If there are any people that passed up TM because of this, you'll be happy to know that it is an any-rank game.
Post by: Zai on February 20, 2010, 10:08:39 pm
It's generally dropped because multiple individuals have stopped playing so much Mafia: myself, Zai, Webadict, Cheeetar, Dakarian, and so on.Yeah, I'll be taking a break for a while after BYOR3 ends. I'll still be following games, but I won't be playing. =X
Post by: RedWarrior0 on February 21, 2010, 02:08:23 am
Post by: webadict on February 21, 2010, 04:28:34 am
I do that to prevent lurking. If they prove they can not lurk, then they'll be in.The ranks in this thread will be preserved, though, so somebody like web might make games that require certain rank in the previous season.
Pfaugh, he'd better not. That's kind of ridiculous... but he won't be able to get you on the 3rd season, then >_>
And I play plenty of games! I just don't play the odd ones.
Post by: dakarian on February 22, 2010, 06:14:52 pm
Hosting should still be possible but playing will have to be taken VERY carefully. Note, though, that I was doing full time work when I first started playing and the concept of not playing ANYTHING would drive me crazy (I don't 'do' regular games much and most other games demand regular patches of time I can't give).
Post by: Vector on February 23, 2010, 10:33:15 pm
By the way.
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 23, 2010, 10:35:13 pm
Post by: Eduren on February 23, 2010, 11:20:42 pm
Y'all want to join Toon very, very, very badly.Including you.
By the way.
Post by: Vector on February 23, 2010, 11:27:50 pm
Y'all want to join Toon very, very, very badly.Including you.
By the way.
I will join when something else I'm in ends. At the moment, my "free time" is rapidly diminishing as I go nuts trying to swallow my algebra textbook.
Post by: Neruz on February 23, 2010, 11:36:04 pm
Post by: Eduren on February 23, 2010, 11:37:33 pm
I prefer the taste of Calculus.Y'all want to join Toon very, very, very badly.Including you.
By the way.
I will join when something else I'm in ends. At the moment, my "free time" is rapidly diminishing as I go nuts trying to swallow my algebra textbook.
Post by: Vector on February 23, 2010, 11:40:25 pm
I will join when something else I'm in ends. At the moment, my "free time" is rapidly diminishing as I go nuts trying to swallow my algebra textbook.I prefer the taste of Calculus.
... Algebra is better (http://www.amazon.com/Algebra-Serge-Lang/dp/038795385X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1266986390&sr=8-1). Seriously, that text is worth its weight in gold.
Post by: dakarian on February 24, 2010, 02:42:26 am
I think i'm going to lift off running Mafia Games for awhile, i'm getting completely sick and tired of only recieving a tiny handful of night actions while seemingly half the players just ignore the game entirely.
That's a proddable offense btw, ESPECIALLY if it's non-town doing it.
Though myself I tend to just let the night end with no action once I get the scum responses and the deadline hits. That's just personal preference though. Perfectly valid to do an official prod instead.
Post by: Neruz on February 24, 2010, 04:17:52 am
Honostly, it seems like there's only about half a dozen or so people who actually want to play Mafia, the rest of the people on these forums are just sort of here because other people are here and don't really want to, or know how to, play the game.
Post by: webadict on February 24, 2010, 09:17:24 am
I'm sick of sending prods.That's why I do A-ranks.
Honostly, it seems like there's only about half a dozen or so people who actually want to play Mafia, the rest of the people on these forums are just sort of here because other people are here and don't really want to, or know how to, play the game.
Post by: dakarian on February 24, 2010, 09:37:49 am
Though I try to host non A ranks as well. We'll see how well Boot Camp runs.
Post by: Neruz on February 24, 2010, 10:06:17 am
I'm sick of sending prods.That's why I do A-ranks.
Honostly, it seems like there's only about half a dozen or so people who actually want to play Mafia, the rest of the people on these forums are just sort of here because other people are here and don't really want to, or know how to, play the game.
I'm not sure the Ranks really mean much, currently in MSPA Mafia 2 i had to prod Dakarian, RW0 and MagmaDeath, RW0 responded, awhile later Dak responded (apparantly he had some sort of external issues or something) and i still havn't gotten a response from MagmaDeath.
In contrast, Org is one of the most active players. Completely and totally useless, but active.
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 24, 2010, 04:20:08 pm
And I don't think anyone's heard from MagmaDeath in a while.
We seem to be in a bit of a lurky lull, however, with even the active players spending a lot of time away.
Oh, and SOMEONE SUB IN FOR I//S//E!!! I'm afraid I might have a couple more replaces coming soon and I'm not looking forward to it.. (MagmaDeeeeeeaaaaath!!!!)
Post by: Org on February 24, 2010, 04:22:46 pm
Hehehe. Yeah, sometimes I am.I'm sick of sending prods.That's why I do A-ranks.
Honostly, it seems like there's only about half a dozen or so people who actually want to play Mafia, the rest of the people on these forums are just sort of here because other people are here and don't really want to, or know how to, play the game.
I'm not sure the Ranks really mean much, currently in MSPA Mafia 2 i had to prod Dakarian, RW0 and MagmaDeath, RW0 responded, awhile later Dak responded (apparantly he had some sort of external issues or something) and i still havn't gotten a response from MagmaDeath.
In contrast, Org is one of the most active players. Completely and totally useless, but active.
Post by: dakarian on February 24, 2010, 05:23:12 pm
To be deadset honest, a LARGE number of our games have been held up by a few people instigating everything during the quiet times. I'm thinking those few people are starting to wear down.
It's a big reason why I said I'm watching Boot Camp closely. None of the 'big talkers' are in that one and the system literally forces you to be involved every single day. First day resulted in a perfect attendance, though that was due to RVing. Now that they have to actually start thinking and planing out their attacks and 'not sure what to do' isn't available..well.. we'll see.
Sidenote: Org has come around in many MANY ways honestly. I can fully expect him to out active many others and he's much more willing to get involved in the hunting. He's still HARD to read but meh none of the games are suffering due to 'org being org' now :P.
Post by: Neruz on February 24, 2010, 06:04:37 pm
Also i can see i'm going to need to replace MagmaDeath. Guaragh.
Post by: Org on February 24, 2010, 06:05:03 pm
Org still doesn't explain himself and tends to just do shit because he can, but at least he's active and encourages gamerising.Like when?
Post by: Neruz on February 24, 2010, 06:05:33 pm
Like the entire last few pages of BYOR3?Org still doesn't explain himself and tends to just do shit because he can, but at least he's active and encourages gamerising.Like when?
Post by: Leafsnail on February 24, 2010, 06:33:14 pm
Post by: Vector on February 24, 2010, 06:57:21 pm
Post by: SirBayer on February 24, 2010, 06:58:23 pm
Post by: Org on February 24, 2010, 07:04:16 pm
haha yeah sorry Orgits cool bro
Post by: dakarian on February 24, 2010, 07:48:40 pm
You also have times when you just sort of 'meh' it, just throwing up quirky comments. It happens most often when you are attacked. It makes you unreadable but, since EVERYONE has to be attacked at some point to prove their towniness, it means there's at least some part of the game when you are "meh". If the town focuses on you for a while, you can Meh for whole game days.
Trust me though, I'd take that any day over the old days, and well over some of the other players we have around.
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 24, 2010, 08:17:50 pm
I would say he's come a very long way from the Org we almost refused to let keep joining games a few months back.
Post by: Org on February 24, 2010, 08:19:09 pm
When I coached him in BM9 for what to do at the end of D1 he was much more useful than he normally would be.Yeah.
I would say he's come a very long way from the Org we almost refused to let keep joining games a few months back.
Post by: Neruz on February 27, 2010, 12:29:48 am
Post by: Vector on February 27, 2010, 12:33:21 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 27, 2010, 01:24:54 am
Post by: dakarian on March 01, 2010, 09:40:45 pm
MSPA Mafia: D4 (game nearing end)
BYOR 3: N4 (midgame)
Boot Camp Mafia: D2 (midgame)
Cybrid Mafia: D2 (suspended, needs 3 replacements)
Paranormal 14: D2 (midgame)
iPick Mafia: Settingup
Glyph's Quick Bastard: signup 1/5
Near Mountainous: Signup 6/9
Toon Mafia: signup 6/11
We have some problems.
4 games running, 2 about to end. 1 game stopped dead due to flaking
1 game about to start once it's done balancing,
3 games stuck in signups without enough players.
Note that the most active game we have is the game dedicated towards those who have not been the most active and able players.
Is it the type of games? (1 hyper bastard, 1 mountainous, 1 heavy role standard)
Have we lost that many players?
What's up?
Post by: ToonyMan on March 01, 2010, 09:57:21 pm
We've lost a significant amount.
Post by: Neruz on March 01, 2010, 10:00:53 pm
Aldaris also suggests that we construct additional pylons.
Post by: webadict on March 01, 2010, 10:04:32 pm
Post by: Vector on March 02, 2010, 12:43:45 am
Have we lost that many players?
What's up?
We've lost one hell of a lot of the players. Roundabout half of the S-ranks aren't playing nearly so many games as they did before, and as such haven't been around to kick up activity. We're going through a major lull, which I figure is generally fine. A bunch of people flaked. The flakers are going to lose rank and be unable to play; the S ranks will be dropped a level; everything will go as it should.
To all of those who are posting to talk about replacements, I'm taking an hour tonight to update the board thinger.
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 02, 2010, 05:22:21 am
Post by: dakarian on March 02, 2010, 08:27:07 am
Sidenote: the system is also set for next quarter to drop anyone else who hasn't played at least one game during the quarter.
Post by: Leafsnail on March 02, 2010, 10:43:11 am
Hm. Might be because of attendance pressures, partly.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 02, 2010, 02:50:50 pm
Post by: Vector on March 02, 2010, 03:35:33 pm
I lose more when I'm in too many games.
Yeah, for me it's a combo of "need to study now" and "I'd rather focus my energy on one or two games at a time."
Mostly the studying, though.
Post by: Org on March 02, 2010, 03:40:07 pm
Post by: Vector on March 02, 2010, 03:44:46 pm
I think Senate Mafia will go to sign ups unless I shouldnt?
You shouldn't. Max. capacity for the subforum has greatly decreased, and I//S//E will take up remaining capacity when it unfreezes.
Post by: Org on March 02, 2010, 03:46:47 pm
Post by: Vector on March 02, 2010, 03:47:58 pm
:o
Yeah... don't worry about it, though. We just have to run a smaller selection of games for now, until we get some more active people and/or noobs.
Post by: Org on March 02, 2010, 03:54:59 pm
Post by: Vector on March 02, 2010, 04:04:05 pm
What happened to most of our players?
Real life or, in my case, mathematics >_>
Post by: Org on March 02, 2010, 04:09:16 pm
<.<What happened to most of our players?
Real life or, in my case, mathematics >_>
Post by: Leafsnail on March 02, 2010, 04:23:26 pm
Post by: Org on March 02, 2010, 04:29:20 pm
Post by: Zai on March 02, 2010, 06:16:58 pm
I've quit joining games because I'm attempting to focus on other stuff. I used to be in 3-ish games at a time, so.... =X
Post by: Vector on March 02, 2010, 06:25:53 pm
Post by: dakarian on March 02, 2010, 08:18:35 pm
Sidenote: I'd in a Bay 12 P2. I'm growing a liking for unusual roles.
Which reminds me..
Post by: Leafsnail on March 02, 2010, 08:20:58 pm
Post by: dakarian on March 02, 2010, 08:26:13 pm
Myself, I'm still holding to my 4 game involvement max at the moment. I've grown a liking for standard games with very quirky roles. Prime examples include the mess Bay 12 offered (though my role made me cry), and, the prize, the delphy-within-the-Toon Mafia.
At the moment, I'm involved with 3 active games (hosting 1, ICing 1, playing 1) and I just signed up for Toon mafia if that's still running. Two of those games are nearing the endphase though so I'll be free to play or host 2 more soon.
@Leafsnail
Not all setups are equal. I can attest to that :P.
Post by: Leafsnail on March 02, 2010, 08:35:00 pm
Post by: Eduren on March 02, 2010, 08:35:34 pm
and I just signed up for Toon mafia if that's still running.Definitely.
As far as my activity, I am looking at a 4 game max. Right now, I have Toon, Bootcamp, and iPick. I might be looking into joining something soon.
Post by: Org on March 02, 2010, 08:36:10 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on March 02, 2010, 08:47:19 pm
What did Arg do?"Something something your target".
Post by: ToonyMan on March 02, 2010, 09:20:03 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 02, 2010, 09:31:56 pm
I'd quite like to run Bay 12 Mafia 2 at some point, if I can get together enough players.Want.
Post by: Vector on March 02, 2010, 09:39:06 pm
In fact, perhaps we need to get a handle on who IS willing to play and what games they are looking for.
Myself, I'm still holding to my 4 game involvement max at the moment. I've grown a liking for standard games with very quirky roles. Prime examples include the mess Bay 12 offered (though my role made me cry), and, the prize, the delphy-within-the-Toon Mafia.
At the moment, I'm involved with 3 active games (hosting 1, ICing 1, playing 1) and I just signed up for Toon mafia if that's still running. Two of those games are nearing the endphase though so I'll be free to play or host 2 more soon.
I'm currently going for 1 or 2 games at a time right now (maybe 3). I like game with quirky roles and setups--I pretty much don't want to play standard games, outside of Near-Mountainous and so on. Paranormal, e.g., is out. I like bastard mods (provided that they're reasonably simple) and am strongly attracted to games with flavor.
I'll probably sign for Toon once BYOR 3 ends, but as-is I'm playing 3 games and running 1, and it's definitely too much.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 02, 2010, 09:45:06 pm
Post by: Org on March 02, 2010, 09:46:21 pm
I slightly dislike bastard mods.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 02, 2010, 09:53:33 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on March 02, 2010, 10:09:05 pm
What happened to most of our players?
Also, god DAMN lurkers.(from Kingmaker)
Basically, I think that there were enough frustrating players that a decent chunk of the rest sort of packed up and left. Then the frustrating players finally gave up and we're left with a fair fewer players. Also general inactivity and fewer games per person. Oh well.
Post by: Org on March 02, 2010, 10:10:23 pm
Post by: dakarian on March 02, 2010, 10:24:02 pm
Dakarian:
Rate of activity: 4 game max
Preferred game type: liking for standard games with very quirky roles. Prime examples include the mess Bay 12 offered (though my role made me cry), and, the prize, the delphy-within-the-Toon Mafia.
Eduren:
Rate of activity: 4 game max.
Vector:
Rate of Activity: 1 or 2 games at a time right now (maybe 3).
Preferred game type: quirky roles and setups--don't want standard games, outside of Near-Mountainous and so on. Paranormal, e.g., is out. likes bastard mods (provided that they're reasonably simple) and am strongly attracted to games with flavor.
Pandarsenic:
Preferred game type: Whatever catches my eye as fun-looking, which tends to be a lot of things. don't like playing Bastard Mods.
Org:
Rate of Activity: 2-3 games, any type really.
Preferred game type: slightly dislike bastard mods
ToonyMan: 3 games max
Rate of Activity:
Preferred game type: flavory text.
Webadict:
Rate of Activity: unknown
Preferred game type: hate rigged games. And prefer to not play bastard games, though might. generally avoid games that are horribly mismanaged.
Post by: webadict on March 02, 2010, 10:28:14 pm
Post by: Org on March 02, 2010, 10:30:45 pm
Post by: dakarian on March 02, 2010, 10:31:27 pm
Get writing!
Post by: ToonyMan on March 02, 2010, 10:33:21 pm
3 games max I try.
Post by: webadict on March 02, 2010, 10:38:05 pm
Because you didn't state your preferred game type or activity. :P...Umm... I hate rigged games? And prefer to not play bastard games, though I might. And I generally avoid games that are horribly mismanaged. And have an unknown number of max games.
Get writing!
Of course, this is basically like writing "Unknown Description."
Post by: Mr.Person on March 03, 2010, 02:25:06 am
I like especially like games with interesting sides, but I'm also a good fan of interesting roles. Cybrid is a perfect example of this. Interesting town, interesting cult, interesting scum-group, interesting roles, and to top it all off, interesting flavor. I'm not a big fan of bastard games in general.
Post by: Eduren on March 03, 2010, 04:14:51 am
Post by: dakarian on March 03, 2010, 06:43:02 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 03, 2010, 07:29:23 am
e: Or a reasonably normal but role-heavy setup like Paranormal.
ee: Which means I like pretty much everything with a single scum faction I think....
Post by: webadict on March 03, 2010, 09:15:58 am
Post by: Leafsnail on March 03, 2010, 11:28:21 am
Post by: ToonyMan on March 03, 2010, 12:33:19 pm
So yeah, I like those.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 03, 2010, 12:34:49 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 03, 2010, 12:56:07 pm
Preferred type...pretty much any non-bastard game. I tend to like to know the general rules for everything, even if the role set is unknown. I enjoy games with good flavor.
Example games: I/S/E (although Gryph needs better role descriptions, the rules were confusing) and Vote Mafia are good examples.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 03, 2010, 12:59:26 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 03, 2010, 01:04:22 pm
Post by: webadict on March 03, 2010, 01:05:18 pm
Last minute rule changes aren't fun either.Though, sometimes necessary.
Indeed. It's ok, though, she just needs more practice at running games. We all made lots of mistakes with the first games we ran.ANOTHER GIRL?!?!?!?!?
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 03, 2010, 01:11:52 pm
ANOTHER GIRL?!?!?!?!?You sound scared and confused.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 03, 2010, 01:18:22 pm
Post by: Vector on March 03, 2010, 01:21:19 pm
Indeed. It's ok, though, she just needs more practice at running games. We all made lots of mistakes with the first games we ran.
GlyphGryph has said repeatedly that he's a dude.
Well, maybe he's a chick, but not last time I checked >_>
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 03, 2010, 01:22:01 pm
Indeed. It's ok, though, she just needs more practice at running games. We all made lots of mistakes with the first games we ran.
GlyphGryph has said repeatedly that he's a dude.
Well, maybe he's a chick, but not last time I checked >_>
Pandarsenic puts a bloody glass shard in a small case.
Post by: webadict on March 03, 2010, 01:26:47 pm
Because I have to learn these things through other's people, and then I wonder where they get it.ANOTHER GIRL?!?!?!?!?You sound scared and confused.
Post by: Vector on March 03, 2010, 01:27:52 pm
Because I have to learn these things through other's people, and then I wonder where they get it.ANOTHER GIRL?!?!?!?!?You sound scared and confused.
Behavior... ? What, you couldn't read my girly speech pattern through the intertubes?
Post by: webadict on March 03, 2010, 01:30:19 pm
I don't read gender. I read intent. Besides, you could be a feminine guy for all I know. Don't be a sexist.Because I have to learn these things through other's people, and then I wonder where they get it.ANOTHER GIRL?!?!?!?!?You sound scared and confused.
Behavior... ? What, you couldn't read my girly speech pattern through the intertubes?
Post by: Alexhans on March 03, 2010, 01:35:59 pm
Being town is not easy if you expect the game to be handed on your lap. Winning as town requires most of the town to agree. Mafia just needs to survive hoping the game is not broken.
Most people don't do any of these things.
Hence, the usual amount of failure.
Post by: webadict on March 03, 2010, 01:40:41 pm
Being a host migth be laborious task (I mean a GOOD host) but playing a game means you have to use your brain to succeed. You have to read as many players as you can, figure out the potentials of the setup, decide how to use your role to best of the town's benefit. Convince others to lynch scum, or manipulate scum. You need to be avoid being lynched if it ever comes to that. You need to separate playstyles from alignments. You need to decide what to do with the information you discover. You need to think, analyze, process, double check.If everyone was me, we'd ALWAYS win!
Being town is not easy if you expect the game to be handed on your lap. Winning as town requires most of the town to agree. Mafia just needs to survive hoping the game is not broken.
Most people don't do any of these things.
Hence, the usual amount of failure.
Post by: Vector on March 03, 2010, 01:42:13 pm
If we're going to do this right I'll want one more thing from everyone: an example of a game that you consider the type of game you like currently.
Glarghle! The problem with this is that I like specific games, not particular types (I'm not crazy about most bastard mods; just certain ones). It's kind of like how I approach novels. So, a list of my Favorite Games of All Time:
Near-Mountainous
Rysith's Semi-Bastard
IMBML(BM(M))
Bellsounder
Horrible Role Mafia
KWN
Don't Outguess the Mod Series
KWN: DE (strongly disliked the mechanic in general, but the flavor stuff was fun)
I know there's a lot of bastard mods on there, so maybe I do just like bastard mods. :-[ Too bad I seem to be the only one.
EDIT: Now it's almost all bastard mods. My problem is that I can think back and remember so many games I enjoyed that this list is pretty much pointless. Hell, I liked MSPA, as well.
Okay, here's the general rule: I like any game that is won more on cleverness than on power role abuse. Give me a game that strongly encourages cleverness, and I will play it. Other games are kind of boring, nowadays.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 03, 2010, 01:43:14 pm
I like em two.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 03, 2010, 01:44:32 pm
But you'd also ALWAYS LOSE!Being a host migth be laborious task (I mean a GOOD host) but playing a game means you have to use your brain to succeed. You have to read as many players as you can, figure out the potentials of the setup, decide how to use your role to best of the town's benefit. Convince others to lynch scum, or manipulate scum. You need to be avoid being lynched if it ever comes to that. You need to separate playstyles from alignments. You need to decide what to do with the information you discover. You need to think, analyze, process, double check.If everyone was me, we'd ALWAYS win!
Being town is not easy if you expect the game to be handed on your lap. Winning as town requires most of the town to agree. Mafia just needs to survive hoping the game is not broken.
Most people don't do any of these things.
Hence, the usual amount of failure.
Post by: webadict on March 03, 2010, 01:48:48 pm
It balances out in the end.But you'd also ALWAYS LOSE!Being a host migth be laborious task (I mean a GOOD host) but playing a game means you have to use your brain to succeed. You have to read as many players as you can, figure out the potentials of the setup, decide how to use your role to best of the town's benefit. Convince others to lynch scum, or manipulate scum. You need to be avoid being lynched if it ever comes to that. You need to separate playstyles from alignments. You need to decide what to do with the information you discover. You need to think, analyze, process, double check.If everyone was me, we'd ALWAYS win!
Being town is not easy if you expect the game to be handed on your lap. Winning as town requires most of the town to agree. Mafia just needs to survive hoping the game is not broken.
Most people don't do any of these things.
Hence, the usual amount of failure.
Post by: Alexhans on March 03, 2010, 01:50:21 pm
But it would'nt be MY fault! ... wait... yes it would :PBut you'd also ALWAYS LOSE!Being a host migth be laborious task (I mean a GOOD host) but playing a game means you have to use your brain to succeed. You have to read as many players as you can, figure out the potentials of the setup, decide how to use your role to best of the town's benefit. Convince others to lynch scum, or manipulate scum. You need to be avoid being lynched if it ever comes to that. You need to separate playstyles from alignments. You need to decide what to do with the information you discover. You need to think, analyze, process, double check.If everyone was me, we'd ALWAYS win!
Being town is not easy if you expect the game to be handed on your lap. Winning as town requires most of the town to agree. Mafia just needs to survive hoping the game is not broken.
Most people don't do any of these things.
Hence, the usual amount of failure.
mmm maybe I can just say that the setup was broken...
Quote
It balances out in the end.Nope... I win (town) much more than I lose (scum) because there's more me (town) than me (scum)
Post by: Eduren on March 03, 2010, 01:58:36 pm
If we're going to do this right I'll want one more thing from everyone: an example of a game that you consider the type of game you like currently.Toon Mafia ;D
I would totally play my game.
Post by: Vector on March 03, 2010, 02:03:21 pm
If we're going to do this right I'll want one more thing from everyone: an example of a game that you consider the type of game you like currently.Toon Mafia ;D
I would totally play my game.
Dude, I will be all over that. Soon.
Post by: Org on March 03, 2010, 04:16:47 pm
Post by: Org on March 03, 2010, 04:17:18 pm
Post by: webadict on March 03, 2010, 04:28:08 pm
I'd clearly get better than myself, so scum me would know what town me was looking for, and I would be impossible to find, other than through power roles.But it would'nt be MY fault! ... wait... yes it would :PBut you'd also ALWAYS LOSE!Being a host migth be laborious task (I mean a GOOD host) but playing a game means you have to use your brain to succeed. You have to read as many players as you can, figure out the potentials of the setup, decide how to use your role to best of the town's benefit. Convince others to lynch scum, or manipulate scum. You need to be avoid being lynched if it ever comes to that. You need to separate playstyles from alignments. You need to decide what to do with the information you discover. You need to think, analyze, process, double check.If everyone was me, we'd ALWAYS win!
Being town is not easy if you expect the game to be handed on your lap. Winning as town requires most of the town to agree. Mafia just needs to survive hoping the game is not broken.
Most people don't do any of these things.
Hence, the usual amount of failure.
mmm maybe I can just say that the setup was broken...QuoteIt balances out in the end.Nope... I win (town) much more than I lose (scum) because there's more me (town) than me (scum)
Post by: Neruz on March 03, 2010, 04:32:54 pm
I'd clearly get better than myself, so scum me would know what town me was looking for, and I would be impossible to find, other than through power roles.But it would'nt be MY fault! ... wait... yes it would :PBut you'd also ALWAYS LOSE!Being a host migth be laborious task (I mean a GOOD host) but playing a game means you have to use your brain to succeed. You have to read as many players as you can, figure out the potentials of the setup, decide how to use your role to best of the town's benefit. Convince others to lynch scum, or manipulate scum. You need to be avoid being lynched if it ever comes to that. You need to separate playstyles from alignments. You need to decide what to do with the information you discover. You need to think, analyze, process, double check.If everyone was me, we'd ALWAYS win!
Being town is not easy if you expect the game to be handed on your lap. Winning as town requires most of the town to agree. Mafia just needs to survive hoping the game is not broken.
Most people don't do any of these things.
Hence, the usual amount of failure.
mmm maybe I can just say that the setup was broken...QuoteIt balances out in the end.Nope... I win (town) much more than I lose (scum) because there's more me (town) than me (scum)
But by law you must die on the first day or first night. So you'd just constantly draw due to everyone being dead.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 03, 2010, 04:35:43 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on March 03, 2010, 04:52:09 pm
Post by: webadict on March 03, 2010, 04:52:55 pm
I'd argue so well that no one would be lynched.I'd clearly get better than myself, so scum me would know what town me was looking for, and I would be impossible to find, other than through power roles.But it would'nt be MY fault! ... wait... yes it would :PBut you'd also ALWAYS LOSE!Being a host migth be laborious task (I mean a GOOD host) but playing a game means you have to use your brain to succeed. You have to read as many players as you can, figure out the potentials of the setup, decide how to use your role to best of the town's benefit. Convince others to lynch scum, or manipulate scum. You need to be avoid being lynched if it ever comes to that. You need to separate playstyles from alignments. You need to decide what to do with the information you discover. You need to think, analyze, process, double check.If everyone was me, we'd ALWAYS win!
Being town is not easy if you expect the game to be handed on your lap. Winning as town requires most of the town to agree. Mafia just needs to survive hoping the game is not broken.
Most people don't do any of these things.
Hence, the usual amount of failure.
mmm maybe I can just say that the setup was broken...QuoteIt balances out in the end.Nope... I win (town) much more than I lose (scum) because there's more me (town) than me (scum)
But by law you must die on the first day or first night. So you'd just constantly draw due to everyone being dead.
Bay 12 Mafia too would probably be quite role heavy, although not bastard. I can guarentee no confirmed townies, at aleast.Woo!
Post by: Vector on March 03, 2010, 04:54:17 pm
Bay 12 Mafia too would probably be quite role heavy, although not bastard. I can guarentee no confirmed townies, at aleast.
Hey, it fits on the list of "things I'd give a try." I'm totally in :3
Post by: ToonyMan on March 03, 2010, 05:07:50 pm
Post by: webadict on March 03, 2010, 05:39:25 pm
Me three point one four.Everyone loves rounded pi.
Post by: Vector on March 03, 2010, 06:14:41 pm
Me three point one four.Everyone loves rounded pi.
22/7, people. It's all about the fractions.
Post by: webadict on March 03, 2010, 06:24:43 pm
... Man, that means I'll have to bring a DF Mafia back. Sooo many rewrites...
Post by: Leafsnail on March 03, 2010, 06:26:19 pm
Post by: webadict on March 03, 2010, 06:31:15 pm
Yeah, it's gonna be hard to find .14 of a person.There was a comma in there :P
Post by: Org on March 03, 2010, 06:34:25 pm
I'll place Vote Mafia 5 into the Queue. It'll be the first time one of my games made it past the 4-game barrier.:O
... Man, that means I'll have to bring a DF Mafia back. Sooo many rewrites...
Yes.
Total win.
Post by: webadict on March 03, 2010, 06:35:10 pm
Yes, Org. I realize you're in love with DF Mafia. I'll see what I can do.I'll place Vote Mafia 5 into the Queue. It'll be the first time one of my games made it past the 4-game barrier.:O
... Man, that means I'll have to bring a DF Mafia back. Sooo many rewrites...
Yes.
Total win.
Post by: Org on March 03, 2010, 06:39:52 pm
:VYes, Org. I realize you're in love with DF Mafia. I'll see what I can do.I'll place Vote Mafia 5 into the Queue. It'll be the first time one of my games made it past the 4-game barrier.:O
... Man, that means I'll have to bring a DF Mafia back. Sooo many rewrites...
Yes.
Total win.
Post by: Leafsnail on March 03, 2010, 06:45:29 pm
I meant 0.14 as in the pi idea :P.Yeah, it's gonna be hard to find .14 of a person.There was a comma in there :P
Post by: Org on March 03, 2010, 06:49:19 pm
Hmm...:VYes, Org. I realize you're in love with DF Mafia. I'll see what I can do.I'll place Vote Mafia 5 into the Queue. It'll be the first time one of my games made it past the 4-game barrier.:O
... Man, that means I'll have to bring a DF Mafia back. Sooo many rewrites...
Yes.
Total win.
If you do I think I will have to pm Inaluct...
Post by: RedWarrior0 on March 03, 2010, 07:24:57 pm
I play maybe 1 or 2 at a time now.
On another note, I might want someone to help balance Second Chance 2.
Post by: dakarian on March 03, 2010, 08:18:37 pm
Chaos is like one of the few things I miss from chatmafia.
Post by: Org on March 03, 2010, 08:21:06 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on March 03, 2010, 08:34:02 pm
!xmafia in to join. Look at your role. Or type !xmafia testsetup chaos
Post by: Zai on March 03, 2010, 09:06:24 pm
Bay 12 Mafia too would probably be quite role heavy, although not bastard. I can guarentee no confirmed townies, at aleast.Didn't help town at all anyway. ;)
Post by: ToonyMan on March 03, 2010, 09:08:09 pm
Hehehhe, I was Meph. HEEE
Post by: JanusTwoface on March 03, 2010, 09:35:37 pm
I mainly like BYORs and variants and themed games that don't have muddled alignments or too many possible roles (i.e. B12 is good, but I don't like Paranormal anymore). More fun when people don't leave in the middle of the game. ::)
When was the last time you played in Paranormal? Round 5? It's a bit role heavy, I admit, but we did some work to try to clean it up a few rounds ago. To each his/her own of course, but you could always give it another try. They're smaller games now too.
Post by: Org on March 03, 2010, 09:46:27 pm
Yeah, as I have seen, they have dropped many players, from being at around 16-17 players a game, to less then 14 or so.I mainly like BYORs and variants and themed games that don't have muddled alignments or too many possible roles (i.e. B12 is good, but I don't like Paranormal anymore). More fun when people don't leave in the middle of the game. ::)
When was the last time you played in Paranormal? Round 5? It's a bit role heavy, I admit, but we did some work to try to clean it up a few rounds ago. To each his/her own of course, but you could always give it another try. They're smaller games now too.
One game had 22 players in it.
Post by: webadict on March 03, 2010, 10:17:23 pm
Yeah, well we'll need that high number again...Yeah, as I have seen, they have dropped many players, from being at around 16-17 players a game, to less then 14 or so.I mainly like BYORs and variants and themed games that don't have muddled alignments or too many possible roles (i.e. B12 is good, but I don't like Paranormal anymore). More fun when people don't leave in the middle of the game. ::)
When was the last time you played in Paranormal? Round 5? It's a bit role heavy, I admit, but we did some work to try to clean it up a few rounds ago. To each his/her own of course, but you could always give it another try. They're smaller games now too.
One game had 22 players in it.
Post by: dakarian on March 03, 2010, 11:36:53 pm
| Name | | | Rate of activity: | | | Preferred Game Type: | | | Examples: |
| Dakarian: | | | 4 game max | | | liking for standard games with very quirky roles. | | | Bay 12, Toon Mafia |
| Eduren: | | | 4 game max. | | | no bastard | | | |
| Vector: | | | 1 or 2 games | | | quirky roles and setups, won by cleverness not power role abuse | | | |
| Pandarsenic: | | | | | Dislikes bastard mods, with a single scum group | | | Paranormal | |
| Org: | | | 2-3 games, | | | Any type but bastard | | | Boot Camp, Paranormal |
| ToonyMan: | | | 3 games max | | | flavory text | | | |
| Webadict: | | | unknown max | | | Non-bastard, balanced, unrigged games | | | Vote Mafia |
| Mr.Person | | | Avoids 3, never 4 | | | Interesting sides and roles, no bastards | | | I/S/E |
| Leafsnail | | | | | anything | | | ||
| Mephansteras | | | About 1 game | | | Non-bastard, known rules | | | I/S/E – Vote Mafia |
| RedWarrior0 | | | 1 or 2 games | | | well thought out crazy roles, including bastards | | | Rysiths, #mafia's Chaos |
| Zai | | | | | BYOR and themed games without muddled alignments | | | B12 |
Post by: dakarian on March 03, 2010, 11:43:08 pm
Sidenote, I see some of the issue here. Quite a few folks want quirky games but not bastards or mountainous games.
Funny thing, a reason why NM existed was to focus on the day game. I think we're doing better than that nowadays.
Proposal: Bay 12 P2 get greenlighted. Also I wonder if there's an interest in me doing a BYOR after all. It's been a while since I did something with flavoring, and I've taken a few hints on how to make roles that aren't stupid but not the regular 'cop/doc/vig' variety.
Post by: Vector on March 03, 2010, 11:56:25 pm
No matter what I do, I always end up using spreadsheets.
Sidenote, I see some of the issue here. Quite a few folks want quirky games but not bastards or mountainous games.
Funny thing, a reason why NM existed was to focus on the day game. I think we're doing better than that nowadays.
Proposal: Bay 12 P2 get greenlighted. Also I wonder if there's an interest in me doing a BYOR after all. It's been a while since I did something with flavoring, and I've taken a few hints on how to make roles that aren't stupid but not the regular 'cop/doc/vig' variety.
Yes. I very, very much want to play both the BYOR and Bay 12 P2. Just wait on the BYOR until BYOR 3 finishes/gets to true lylo, please, and then it'll be a great time to run it.
I'll also probably in on NM again, eventually.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 04, 2010, 12:09:19 am
Name | Rate of activity: | Preferred Game Type: | Examples: Dakarian: | 4 game max | liking for standard games with very quirky roles. | Bay 12, Toon Mafia Eduren: | 4 game max. | no bastard | Vector: | 1 or 2 games | quirky roles and setups, won by cleverness not power role abuse | Pandarsenic: | Any number | Dislikes bastard mods, likes a single scum group | Paranormal, Vote, Bay12, Toony, NearlyMountainous Org: | 2-3 games, | Any type but bastard | Boot Camp, Paranormal ToonyMan: | 3 games max | flavory text | Webadict: | unknown max | Non-bastard, balanced, unrigged games | Vote Mafia Mr.Person | Avoids 3, never 4 | Interesting sides and roles, no bastards | I/S/E Leafsnail | | anything | Mephansteras | About 1 game | Non-bastard, known rules | I/S/E – Vote Mafia RedWarrior0 | 1 or 2 games | well thought out crazy roles, including bastards | Rysiths, #mafia's Chaos Zai | | BYOR and themed games without muddled alignments | B12
Fixed my row.
Post by: dakarian on March 04, 2010, 12:19:55 am
aka: I can NEVER do anything normal.
The quirk (might) be small (or large) for BYOR: Choices though. During signups there will be a list with lines like this:
Just a Dot, Not a Lot
Show and Tell
Mightier than the Sword
Each one corresponds to a rule that can be placed in the game. Along with the normal 'give me a name' (and yes, links/videos/whatever can be used to explain your role's name here though I CAN go odd with how I spin it) you can request as many or as few of the rules as you like. Any rule that has at least half the players choosing it will go into effect. The rules won't be bastardish (OMG your vote goes to the one below you!!), just changing the style of the game and the roles that will be given. i.e. "spoiled flavor" means that the flavor will have actual game information (think how Paranormal's flavor goes) and some of the roles will have abilities that touch on it. "..in the membrane!" means there will be roles that effect sanity (i.e. scum that can make a player Insane, a doc that heals sanity..ext).
You won't be told directly what line does what but it can be reasoned out if you're that type. You'll be told what rules are in effect when the game starts.
And if you're afraid, the game works as a standard game. It's just a matter of adding quirks depending on what the players desire.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 04, 2010, 12:27:59 am
Mightier than the Sword
If this goes in my first italicized flavortext will be killing everyone who voted to put it in.
Post by: Vector on March 04, 2010, 12:31:02 am
Mightier than the Sword
DO WANT SO MUCH GRARGHLEBLARGHLE
Probably shouldn't've said that ._. But y'all'd know it was me, anyway.
Post by: Neruz on March 04, 2010, 12:40:21 am
Post by: Mr.Person on March 04, 2010, 04:01:38 am
Post by: Alexhans on March 04, 2010, 06:28:06 am
I would totally be up for running a Forum based Chaos game :Pforum games are longer and take more effort. There's also more time to think and try to break a setup. Playing a broken setup can be inmensely frustrating in a forum. It's not like you can play 10 in a row in 2 hours if you want to.
There's also the fact that Xylbot players would have a much bigger advantage (knowing the mechanics and how to exploit them, knowing how to fakeclaim).
If you ever wanted to do this... I'd suggest that you run 100 testsetups and pick the most balanced chaos you can.
and require a minimum amount of IRC games for the players so they will know basically how things work (even if you explain it to a non IRC player, he will probably miss most things).
Post by: dakarian on March 04, 2010, 08:43:52 am
Also, yes, there will only be one actual scum group. Depending on how the setup goes (the roles given, the rules in place) some win conditions will end up interesting, but the main thrust will be "large group of town, attempts to lynch smaller group of scum".
Last note: When the game starts, I will tell what each rule you chose does, so you know what you're up against.
Post by: Neruz on March 04, 2010, 09:49:51 am
I would totally be up for running a Forum based Chaos game :Pforum games are longer and take more effort. There's also more time to think and try to break a setup. Playing a broken setup can be inmensely frustrating in a forum. It's not like you can play 10 in a row in 2 hours if you want to.
There's also the fact that Xylbot players would have a much bigger advantage (knowing the mechanics and how to exploit them, knowing how to fakeclaim).
If you ever wanted to do this... I'd suggest that you run 100 testsetups and pick the most balanced chaos you can.
and require a minimum amount of IRC games for the players so they will know basically how things work (even if you explain it to a non IRC player, he will probably miss most things).
Ovbiously i'd ensure the chaos roles were in fact, not broken.
I can't guarantee they'd be balanced, since this is chaos, but i can definitely just keep doing testsetups until i get a setup that's not broken.
Post by: Alexhans on March 04, 2010, 10:13:38 am
I'd probably vouch for MC right off the bat and then just struggle to intertwine everyone's actions.
Post by: Leafsnail on March 04, 2010, 11:35:24 am
Post by: dakarian on March 04, 2010, 03:44:17 pm
Although right NOW I'll accept suggestions for them if anyone has any.
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 04, 2010, 07:37:04 pm
I don't read gender. I read intent. Besides, you could be a feminine guy for all I know. Don't be a sexist.Something like this. On the internet, nobody knows if you're a _. And, because either "he" is considered default or possibly because of some imbalance of "insult derived from getting it wrong", that's what people go with. Also it tends to have little bearing on much.
IMBML(BM(M))Nobody figured out what they needed to turn the tide, they just caught Pandarsenic red-handed the old fashioned way.
I like any game that is won more on cleverness than on power role abuse. Give me a game that strongly encourages cleverness, and I will play it. Other games are kind of boring, nowadays.
Post by: Leafsnail on March 04, 2010, 07:40:09 pm
*cough*
Anyway, Endless Eight. Just to see what you come up with - it obviously won't pass :P.
Post by: Eduren on March 04, 2010, 07:47:07 pm
Post by: Archangel on March 04, 2010, 07:57:43 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 04, 2010, 08:15:34 pm
Post by: Vector on March 04, 2010, 09:06:37 pm
Additional: can I convince anyone to come sub in for Beginner's IX? We need two replacements and the thing is pretty much dead. I'm about to send out batched PMs, but I thought I'd ask here, first.
Post by: Org on March 04, 2010, 09:18:23 pm
OWAIT
Post by: Vector on March 04, 2010, 09:18:51 pm
Me!
OWAIT
>____________>
Someone who is not dead or an IC, please.
Post by: Leafsnail on March 04, 2010, 09:27:53 pm
Post by: dakarian on March 04, 2010, 09:47:45 pm
Infinite Jest - There's an idea that popped up, but it'll result in a possible Happily Ever After. I HATE HEA. No, it's not "everyone is a jester".
AHH, I got it. It's rather Fed up but it can work. This one is actually safe to use.
Endless Eight - I like the way this will go. I'll warn you though, if you want the game to run rather normally, DO NOT choose this one.
Twilight princess - Nifty quirks on this one and I'll have fun making the roles here. I label this one 'safe to use'
Complete Bullshit - I have an idea on this one. Pretty safe but can get frustrating. Makes me think of another though:
4 3's? BULLSHIT! - I like this one. You may or may not depending on how crazy you like it.
Abstract nonsense - Should've known you'd throw math into this one. When I looked it up.. I like it and considering the very little I know about Proofs I can see how useful is it. As for a rule... I know what I want to do with this one but I'm going to give myself HELL making roles to fit it.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... I got it. I like it.
Other rules on the table:
You hold me down
Show and Tell
Pen is Mightier than the Sword
The Company of Myself
Make me wild like you
Return to innocence
Heal a man 3 days dead.
CHAOS!
Post by: RedWarrior0 on March 04, 2010, 10:39:33 pm
Fun in Rwanda
AAAAAAAAA! (http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/AAAAAAAAA!)
This is madness!
Welcome to fucking Boatmurdered
Defenestration
Is this even legal?
Post by: Mr.Person on March 04, 2010, 11:01:29 pm
USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST
Happy birthday!
Et tu, Brute?
Security blanket
Dawn of the final day -- 24 hours remain
Everybody dies
New World Order
Beat it
Swine Flu
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 04, 2010, 11:03:52 pm
Post by: Archangel on March 04, 2010, 11:32:17 pm
Damn Lasers
Hey Look, a Demonic Duck!
Way of the Warrior
Only the Good Die Young
Turn a Blind Eye
Do You See What I See?
Just What You Need
I Hate People Like That
A Doom Upon You All!
Everybody Dies
Post by: Mr.Person on March 04, 2010, 11:35:37 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 04, 2010, 11:58:37 pm
Post by: dakarian on March 05, 2010, 12:21:29 am
Screw the rules, I have money!: Not a hard one there.
Fun in Rwanda: No clue how to make that work as a rule
AAAAAAAAA!: BIG tip: you Won't want this one.
This is madness!: I have an idea on how this will work. I tried not to go with the obvious "cry out a certain phrase and gain powers" route.
Welcome to fucking Boatmurdered: Hmm, put this under "omg you let the mod go crazy!".
Defenestration: Got an idea on this one. Simple matter.
Is this even legal? : Might surprise a few people with this one.
Now you're thinking with Portals: Oh powers that be YES!!!!!!!
USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST: very quirky
Happy birthday!: I like this one
Et tu, Brute?: I think I know how to pull this one off. Balancing will be tricky here.
Security blanket: Got this one. Interesting.. not 100% sure of fun factor but interesting strategies.
Dawn of the final day -- 24 hours remain: easy to understand here.
Everybody dies: I'd rename this one to "Unhappily ever after" since it gives a better clue.
New World Order: Renamed to nWo for similar reasons
Beat it: I like this one.
Swine Flu: can't use this one as a rule. A Role, yes, but not a rule
Fuck it, I'm Out of Here: Not a bad idea here, and not too game overwhelming
Damn Lasers: Unlike this one that could drive things crazy
Hey Look, a Demonic Duck!: I LIKE this one! It's evil
Way of the Warrior: Another "hard to balance" action, but I think it would be liked by some.
Only the Good Die Young: I hope this goes in :D
Turn a Blind Eye: know how this will go
Do You See What I See?: know how this one will go.
Just What You Need: I get an idea on how this goes.
I Hate People Like That: evil! :D
A Doom Upon You All!: very obvious
Harmony, Harmony, Oh Love!: A hint: it's not a mass of Lovers roles, but close.
For the record, not all of them will go in. Also, I may sort them so that you'll have a better idea which ones will do VERY BIG changes and which won't. However, I plan on assuming the possibility that ALL of the rules will go in and, thus, will be careful about which will be in the final list.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 05, 2010, 12:27:33 am
Post by: RedWarrior0 on March 05, 2010, 12:34:15 am
2 wrongs make a right
Holy shit this is insane!
Fun with Numbers
OSHI-
/b/
We need a slogan!
Yo momma
Ozymandias
A sticky situation
Leafsnail talks like this, desu
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 05, 2010, 12:42:37 am
Ozmandias and Spartacus rules from my uPick. Add them.
Also Kill Webadict Now.
Post by: Vector on March 05, 2010, 12:45:20 am
Scheherazade
Triple fried egg sandwich with chili sauce and chutney
Credo Quia Absurdum Est
Testable on American schoolchildren
Algebra is not zoology
... The last two are modified quotations from one of my professors. He is insane. The others are (largely) cultural references of one sort or another. Also, I'm seconding the "ALL THE RULES" vote.
Post by: Mr.Person on March 05, 2010, 12:51:56 am
Jump to hyperspace
Gee, it sure is boring around here...
LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING ABOUT HATE
You don't talk about Fight Club
It's ok, I'll be fine
Is there anybody out there?
Change we can believe in
Valve time
Maybe this should go in another thread? (I only just now realize that the previous phrase makes a good suggestion itself)
Post by: dakarian on March 05, 2010, 01:20:11 am
You guys know that if you accept ALL of those rules at once you'll have something crazier than KWN:DE.
Seriously. You have been warned!
Post by: Vector on March 05, 2010, 01:20:59 am
You guys are INSANE!
You guys know that if you accept ALL of those rules at once you'll have something crazier than KWN:DE.
Seriously. You have been warned!
;D
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 05, 2010, 01:33:43 am
Dead Man Walking
At least things couldn't get any worse
Xanatos Roulette
Post by: Archangel on March 05, 2010, 01:35:25 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 05, 2010, 01:50:14 am
You guys are INSANE!
You guys know that if you accept ALL of those rules at once you'll have something crazier than KWN:DE.
Seriously. You have been warned!
FUCKING WORTH IT
Post by: Neruz on March 05, 2010, 02:26:20 am
Because if not, i just did.
Also:
I must not kill my Sister
WHITE WHALE, HOLY GRAIL
There is a monkey in my pocket
Post by: Vector on March 05, 2010, 02:28:23 am
Post by: dakarian on March 05, 2010, 02:33:39 am
Firstly, I'm not going to put ALL of them in. Balance, playability, fun factor, and contradiction issues will be involved.
Secondly, once the signups starts, it'll be up to the players what rules go in. Only rules that get at least half the players requesting it will go in.
So while I imagine a few people will be requesting EVERYTHING!!!!, I imagine others will be only doing one or two or even none. In the end, the majority will get their say.
Note that I design the player roles to suit the established rules, so whether EVERYTHING!!! goes in or nothing, the game should be interesting.
Again though: No utterly broken roles at the start (now if you RUIN yourselves due to how you USE your rules, you have yourselves to blame). No multiple scum groups. Nothing that completely destroys the day game.
Btw, initial plans place the minimum rank at C, though I will consider players below that rank if they ask nicely. HOWEVER, I WILL put your rank in consideration when making your role.
Speaking of which.. *runs over to Boot Camp*
Edit: Oh yah, deadline is on Friday. Meh to me.
Well, I'll have time tomorrow so I can spend some of it on the inevitable spreadsheet.
If I finish I might start Signups early if only to let people discuss and try to figure out what the rules will do. If I do, the game won't start until AFTER BYOR 3 ends.
Post by: Archangel on March 05, 2010, 02:40:41 am
Oh No! There are too Many Rules!This was an actual rule suggestion. I really should have said so when I posted it.
Post by: webadict on March 05, 2010, 11:30:49 am
Trust Me, I'm a Doctor...
STOP! Hammertime!
Look, a Distraction!
Are You Sure You Know What You're Doing?
All the Cool Kids Are Doing It.
IT'S A TRAP!
Screw You Guys, I'm Going Home.
*sigh*
ROFLCOPTER
C-c-c-combo Breaker!
Post by: Leafsnail on March 05, 2010, 12:17:04 pm
Leafsnail talks like this, desuBastard. The problem being I'll only have one vote on this one...
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 05, 2010, 01:25:37 pm
Rhymes with Silver
Rhymes with Purple
Post by: dakarian on March 05, 2010, 01:27:47 pm
Oh No! There are too Many Rules!This was an actual rule suggestion. I really should have said so when I posted it.
(http://dog.fpsbanana.com/ico/sprays/frame_0_1.png)
@Webadict
Et, tu Webadict?
Alright alright, I'll get these last errands done then get to work.
Funny, I had THOUGHT I would have to make them myself. Silly me, I forgot what forum I was in.
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 05, 2010, 01:33:55 pm
and
Are you my Mummy?
and maybe
Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey... Stuff
for mandatory Doctor references, just because I'd like to see what rules could go with them. :P
Post by: Vector on March 05, 2010, 01:36:13 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 05, 2010, 01:46:21 pm
Most of my time has been taken up by homework and dodging zombies, both of which can be time consuming activities... but hell, you know what? Even someone who can barely get on is better than noone at all.
Post by: Vector on March 05, 2010, 01:48:12 pm
Strongly considering it actually. Its against my policy, but the fact that I've actually been following the game means I'd probably be able to hop in. I just wish I wasn't so busy with RL stuff (and not so real life stuff).
Most of my time has been taken up by homework and dodging zombies, both of which can be time consuming activities... but hell, you know what? Even someone who can barely get on is better than noone at all.
Thanks much. PMs about to be sent.
Post by: dakarian on March 05, 2010, 01:53:09 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on March 05, 2010, 01:58:22 pm
Post by: Vector on March 05, 2010, 01:59:26 pm
Can I convince anyone else? It'll really be quite good if we can just get one more.
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 05, 2010, 02:01:09 pm
Post by: Vector on March 05, 2010, 02:03:32 pm
And its Lylo, no? So it is almost over, which makes it a nice easy way to get rank points. :P
Yeah, this. It's a great way to get rank points, in fact.
Post by: Eduren on March 05, 2010, 07:29:38 pm
Where's the beef?
Ebony and Ivory
Donde es la biblioteca?
Post by: Vector on March 05, 2010, 07:39:41 pm
Donde esta la biblioteca?
Please. Please do not use second person when referring to inanimate objects.
Post by: Leafsnail on March 05, 2010, 07:40:42 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 05, 2010, 07:45:18 pm
Post by: Eduren on March 05, 2010, 07:46:25 pm
Been a few years.Donde esta la biblioteca?
Please. Please do not use second person when referring to inanimate objects.
Post by: Vector on March 05, 2010, 07:48:32 pm
Been a few years.Donde esta la biblioteca?
Please. Please do not use second person when referring to inanimate objects.
I understand--it's okay :) I haven't taken any Spanish for ... wow, over a decade. I feel a little bit pathetic. In any case, I'm mostly nitpicking hokay I'll disappear now.
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 05, 2010, 07:50:01 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 05, 2010, 07:51:46 pm
Post by: webadict on March 05, 2010, 08:26:51 pm
I'm Feeling Lucky!
Alt + F4
UNDO! UNDO!
Upgrade Complete!
Ich Bin Ein Berliner!
Peace Out.
Self-Destruct Sequence Initiated...
It's Super Effective!
With Your Powers Combined...
Let It Ride
Post by: Eduren on March 05, 2010, 08:45:47 pm
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
I hate snakes.
Reverse shield polarity!
Where Eagles Dare.
Post by: Org on March 05, 2010, 08:48:55 pm
Post by: dakarian on March 05, 2010, 09:01:18 pm
I have #*%(@$ 113 rules already to look over. I'm DONE.
I have plenty of work to do tonight. Makes me glad I caught up on my anime...mostly.
For the record, there WILL be a "EVERYTHING" option if you are insane for it. It's less of a rule as a 'select all' choice so you don't have to copypasty the entire ruleset. 'everything but..." is also acceptable.
There will also be a Randomizer option. WIth that, each day will result in a new set of random rules that will kick in. Be warned that if you DARE choose that, your roles will change just about every day. I highly DON'T recommend it.
As for the roles, for those thinking them up now, you will be able to give me the name of the role and any links to any content about it you desire, but nothing else. Not a SINGLE word more can be said. Rand Al'Thor from WOT... the italics is not allowed. If you want me to know about it, find a link.
Post by: dakarian on March 05, 2010, 09:02:17 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 05, 2010, 09:50:31 pm
Second person for "ser" is "eres", first person "soy", third person "es".
Second person for "estar" is "estas", third person "esta", first person "estoy".
Post by: Zai on March 05, 2010, 10:02:51 pm
Xanatos RouletteHell. Yes.
That better be used.
Post by: Org on March 05, 2010, 10:09:57 pm
And maybe we need to fully stop I/S/E.
Just saying.
Post by: Vector on March 05, 2010, 10:14:19 pm
Vector, "es" is third person for "ser", and a completely different word from "estar" wich conjugates to "esta" (which is ALSO third person). "Donde es la biblioteca" is thus correctly conjugated.
Second person for "ser" is "eres", first person "soy", third person "es".
Second person for "estar" is "estas", third person "esta", first person "estoy".
Ah-ha, someone who speaks more Spanish! Excellent. So, I'm guessing this is the "avoir" vs. "etre" problem? I.e... I think the verb is different, right? Or do we not use estar in this context? I looked it up online, but I still don't think I fully understand the difference between the two.
(Apologies to you, by the way, eduren. My Spanish sucks and seems to have become one with my knowledge of French, where "es" is a second-person-conjugated verb)
MSPA 2 is done, iPick has started, Kingmaker is done.
And maybe we need to fully stop I/S/E.
Just saying.
No.
Post by: Org on March 05, 2010, 10:18:13 pm
No to which
Post by: Vector on March 05, 2010, 10:22:44 pm
:?
No to which
No, we do not need to fully stop I//S//E. It is a good game and we are playing it.
Post by: Org on March 05, 2010, 10:25:28 pm
Woops.
Let meh seh.
Yeah, sorry.
Wrong game.
How long should a game be in sign ups before stopping?
Post by: Vector on March 05, 2010, 10:30:04 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 05, 2010, 10:35:47 pm
Y Vector, mi Espanol esta nada bueno, pero mi Francais es muy terrible.
As such I've got no idea what avoir and etre means. But is essentially Ser is "something IS/ ==" while Estar is something "IS for the moment", thus temporary versus permenant. Thats not really the right way to describe it though. Its a bit odd.
Post by: Vector on March 05, 2010, 10:39:27 pm
My Redux game is dead in the water. so that can probably be canceled. :(
Unless you actually want to cancel it, I'd wait. I'll sign up once something else ends.
Post by: Zai on March 05, 2010, 10:40:36 pm
Dunno, but at this point I think Squeegy's looks like it's in a fair spot of trouble :IThat was pretty obvious. =P
Post by: dakarian on March 06, 2010, 02:20:55 am
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 06, 2010, 02:31:54 am
HEY LEAFY: Dakkarian.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 06, 2010, 03:23:15 am
Post by: dakarian on March 06, 2010, 03:37:50 am
Reason: I was doing research on Gurren Lagann to see how what I can do with it when I found out that Hulu has Gurren on their listings, and I never got the chance to see it before it went licensed!
Result: A LARGE portion of my time will now be spent watching the entire series. :D
Could be worse: I also spotted Inuyasha on the list but I'm not so big on that that I'll delay everything to watch that massive thing.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 06, 2010, 03:41:41 am
Post by: Neruz on March 06, 2010, 03:46:10 am
Also i claim credit for distracting dakarian. It was all me.
Post by: Leafsnail on March 06, 2010, 07:20:38 am
My Redux game is dead in the water. so that can probably be canceled. :(Avoir and être are typically horrible irregular verbs for "to have" and "to be". Add that to irregular "aller" and it really starts to get annoying.
Y Vector, mi Espanol esta nada bueno, pero mi Francais es muy terrible.
As such I've got no idea what avoir and etre means. But is essentially Ser is "something IS/ ==" while Estar is something "IS for the moment", thus temporary versus permenant. Thats not really the right way to describe it though. Its a bit odd.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 06, 2010, 07:12:43 pm
My Redux game is dead in the water. so that can probably be canceled. :(Avoir and être are typically horrible irregular verbs for "to have" and "to be". Add that to irregular "aller" and it really starts to get annoying.
Y Vector, mi Espanol esta nada bueno, pero mi Francais es muy terrible.
As such I've got no idea what avoir and etre means. But is essentially Ser is "something IS/ ==" while Estar is something "IS for the moment", thus temporary versus permenant. Thats not really the right way to describe it though. Its a bit odd.
Ahh, the unholy trinity of the French language....
Post by: dakarian on March 07, 2010, 03:07:41 pm
1. RL made sure I wouldn't have an INCH of time to go watch GL. However, I was able to work on the ruleset.
Thus, bad news is that "who the hell do you think I am" probably won't go in since I don't know enough about the reference to do something that I would like (no, I won't make up something.. it's beneath me :P)
Good news is that I'm finished writing rules for all of the phrases. About half got cut completely though :P. Next I'm going to let Random.org choose some of them (the ones that don't get picked will still be in my spreadsheet so I can go back to them. Some of the rules are epic enough to create their own game!). It won't be pure Random.org: some WILL be on the list because I want them to be and others CAN'T be on the list because they'll either contradict a rule I want or ruin the balance. I should have a healthy set available though.
Now for the evil factor. Not only do I have an anime to watch when I get the chance, and not only do I have a job hunt I HAVE to do, but the most evil of temptations have come for me.
(BRAG!)I just got selected for the Starcraft 2 BETA!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!(/BRAG!)
Yah, this will be a rather tricky next couple of weeks for me. :P
But rest assured, I want this game to get into signups this week so that it can formally start soon after BYOR 3 begins (or a little after). Besides, after everyone sends their chosen rules and roles to me, there's a pretty big setup time while I put everything together. The more time I get to do that the better, IMO.
Oh, and last thing: I've put ratings on the rules sorted by effect on the game and insanity. The range goes from rules that can be added in then mostly ignored (i.e. a rule that changes what color you can use to vote), rules that will add a quirk to the game but keep it standard (i.e. a role that makes doctors more common, or a role that affects how you target players), rules that DRAMATICALLY change the game and may get in the way if you wanted a traditional game (i.e. there's a rule that turns the game into a hybrid of Assassin, and a few that can get in the way of the day game), and lastly rules that get to the point where I can no longer guarantee balance and fairness (there is a rule that sets the game up similar to Chaos mode in Chatmafia).
You are, of course, allowed to choose all of the rules or all of a certain type (i.e. All of the 1st set of rules, and this and that of the third set.. or 'everything but THIS rule') or none of them. There is a seperate 'Random' rule that will override all other rules.
Lastly, if you absolutely DONOT WANT a rule, you can state such.. it'll give that rule a -1 making it slightly harder for that rule to get in.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on March 07, 2010, 04:00:16 pm
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so that it can formally start soon after BYOR 3 begins
So has it already started? Damn.
Post by: Leafsnail on March 07, 2010, 04:13:07 pm
Post by: dakarian on March 07, 2010, 04:17:29 pm
Post by: Org on March 07, 2010, 04:29:24 pm
Hmm... anyone want to soundboard Bay 12 Mafia 2?Sure
Post by: Zai on March 07, 2010, 04:54:18 pm
Hmm... anyone want to soundboard Bay 12 Mafia 2?What's your definition of "soundboard?"
Post by: Leafsnail on March 07, 2010, 04:57:57 pm
Post by: Org on March 07, 2010, 05:25:03 pm
Chakka.Pon pon?Hmm... anyone want to soundboard Bay 12 Mafia 2?What's your definition of "soundboard?"
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 07, 2010, 07:56:25 pm
Don don.
Don don.
Post by: dakarian on March 08, 2010, 11:21:49 am
All rules calibrated. I'm ready to start the thread.
And I probably should hurry since I also just finished DLing the SC demo and it's installing nowwowooooo
Post by: webadict on March 08, 2010, 01:11:56 pm
Someone to help with balancing.Need my balancing skills once more?
Post by: Leafsnail on March 08, 2010, 01:24:31 pm
Post by: webadict on March 08, 2010, 02:15:32 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 10, 2010, 03:00:39 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on March 10, 2010, 03:39:23 pm
Would people prefer that I run Paranormal 15 or Wizard Duel 4 for me next game?
Hmm. Leaning slightly towards Paranormal 15 myself, although I'd probably join either.
Post by: webadict on March 10, 2010, 03:55:11 pm
Wizard Duels... meh. I didn't like them.Would people prefer that I run Paranormal 15 or Wizard Duel 4 for me next game?
Hmm. Leaning slightly towards Paranormal 15 myself, although I'd probably join either.
Paranormal.
Post by: Org on March 10, 2010, 04:18:52 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on March 10, 2010, 05:12:07 pm
Better yet, double scumteam (Two different Cabals going foor the title?)
Paranormal
Post by: Vector on March 10, 2010, 05:20:49 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 10, 2010, 10:00:32 pm
Wizard Duels... meh. I didn't like them.Would people prefer that I run Paranormal 15 or Wizard Duel 4 for me next game?
Hmm. Leaning slightly towards Paranormal 15 myself, although I'd probably join either.
Paranormal.
Post by: Mr.Person on March 10, 2010, 10:16:20 pm
Post by: Neruz on March 11, 2010, 01:09:48 am
Post by: Org on March 11, 2010, 06:07:13 pm
Only a few are in signups nhow.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on March 11, 2010, 07:27:23 pm
Also, does anyone want to help balance Second Chance II with me?
Post by: RedWarrior0 on March 13, 2010, 10:35:17 pm
Post by: Neruz on March 13, 2010, 10:39:18 pm
Post by: webadict on March 13, 2010, 11:10:15 pm
Post by: Vector on March 13, 2010, 11:12:50 pm
Post by: webadict on March 13, 2010, 11:24:35 pm
Yeah, we've got some space and new stuff needs to be queued up.What about BM9? At least tell me if we lynched right!
Post by: Mr.Person on March 13, 2010, 11:26:27 pm
Also, put Dethy Deluxe into planned. It's the hypothetical game Mr.Person has talked about occasionally that follows the same theme of dethy (several cops with varying conditions) but has more elaborate stuff than just sanities.
I wouldn't help balance Second Chance, but if you want any help balancing or running this one, I'll gladly lend a hand.
Post by: Vector on March 13, 2010, 11:26:34 pm
Yeah, we've got some space and new stuff needs to be queued up.What about BM9? At least tell me if we lynched right!
BMIX is to be updated tomorrow morning. I had the time, but not the sanity, to take care of it yesterday. Now I've moved the needle from "insane" to "mostly sane," and I can get that sucker finished.
Sorry >_<
Post by: webadict on March 13, 2010, 11:27:22 pm
*fingers crossed*Yeah, we've got some space and new stuff needs to be queued up.What about BM9? At least tell me if we lynched right!
BMIX is to be updated tomorrow morning. I had the time, but not the sanity, to take care of it yesterday. Now I've moved the needle from "insane" to "mostly sane," and I can get that sucker finished.
Sorry >_<
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on March 14, 2010, 11:50:24 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on March 15, 2010, 04:15:02 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 25, 2010, 01:36:31 pm
Also, should I start sign-ups for Paranormal 15 or hold off for a bit?
Post by: Vector on March 25, 2010, 01:40:27 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 25, 2010, 01:43:18 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on March 25, 2010, 02:14:44 pm
Lucky 1000th! Just sayin'. Go back to your regularly scheduled talking now.
Dakarian's last post in the 1st Quarter Attendance was post #299. We were so close to 300...
Post by: JanusTwoface on March 25, 2010, 04:13:04 pm
Finally got around to updating this. Everything look ok?
Also, should I start sign-ups for Paranormal 15 or hold off for a bit?
Personally, I'd love to see it, but I don't speak for others. Not being in or watching any running games is kind of strange. My DF Mafia email folder is all sad and lonely. Whenever you start it up, I'll be in'ing.
On that note, if there's anyone about looking for a game, check out Vote Mafia (http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=51010.new;topicseen#new)! It's fun, I promise!
Post by: webadict on March 25, 2010, 04:33:46 pm
Woo! Free Advertising!Finally got around to updating this. Everything look ok?
Also, should I start sign-ups for Paranormal 15 or hold off for a bit?
Personally, I'd love to see it, but I don't speak for others. Not being in or watching any running games is kind of strange. My DF Mafia email folder is all sad and lonely. Whenever you start it up, I'll be in'ing.
On that note, if there's anyone about looking for a game, check out Vote Mafia (http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=51010.new;topicseen#new)! It's fun, I promise!
Post by: Org on March 30, 2010, 06:18:29 pm
More later.
Post by: Leafsnail on April 02, 2010, 08:20:17 am
8 townies
2 mafia
2 werewolves
The following roles are randomly distributed among the non-werewolf players:
2 monks
The following roles are randomly distributed among the non-mafia players:
2 masons
Additional rules:
Usually all four groups can only night chat, but there's nothing to stop it being daychat, I guess.
The first crosskill in each direction fails. So the first time a mafia kills a werewolf nothing happens, and vice versa. After that crosskills happen as normal. This rule isn't necessary, but I quite like it, as it makes the setup less swingy.
Kills are distinguishable - werewolf kills will show up as "savaged" while mafia kills will show up as "shot". If both target one person, they will be "bitten and shot".
Anyone interested?
Post by: webadict on April 02, 2010, 08:33:29 am
Sounds good.
Post by: Leafsnail on April 02, 2010, 08:40:32 am
Post by: webadict on April 02, 2010, 08:43:04 am
Yeah, basically, the monks are confirmed non-werewolf to each other, and the masons are confirmed non-mafia to each other. You do get Mafia Monks and Werewolf Masons though.Okay. Just make sure you don't roll double Mafia-Monks and vice versa.
Post by: Neruz on April 02, 2010, 10:09:06 am
Du eet.
Post by: webadict on April 02, 2010, 10:16:42 am
1 Mason Monk, 1 Werewolf Mason, 1 Mafia Monk.... Hahahaha... Nice.
Du eet.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 02, 2010, 10:51:27 am
Post by: Mr.Person on April 02, 2010, 12:12:06 pm
Boatmurdered Mafia!
More later.
The mafia would be elephants. There'd be an sk called magma.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 02, 2010, 05:56:03 pm
And one mafia werewolf.
*Head explodes*
Post by: Leafsnail on April 04, 2010, 03:40:38 pm
I've also had an idea for a bastard mod, which I've called Hangman for no real reason. It'd have 9 players, and I could run it sometime, since there don't seem to be any bastard games in queue at the moment. It's sortof like Bellsounder in nature (in that the mod will tell the truth but not the whole truth to players) and I've talked to dakarian a bit about the setup. Would anyone be interested in a b mod?
Post by: Vector on April 04, 2010, 03:42:58 pm
Also run B12 at some point. Vector will play that, too.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 04, 2010, 03:47:42 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on April 04, 2010, 08:30:02 pm
Post by: Eduren on April 04, 2010, 09:13:42 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 04, 2010, 10:24:06 pm
Mr.Person, do you still want to discuss Dethy Deluxe?
Edit: I've got a QT set up for it if you want to discuss.
Meph, can you add it to planned?
Post by: Mr.Person on April 04, 2010, 11:27:29 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on April 07, 2010, 12:05:16 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on April 07, 2010, 12:12:34 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 07, 2010, 12:34:44 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on April 07, 2010, 01:59:24 pm
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13455
Post by: webadict on April 07, 2010, 02:14:08 pm
If you're interested, someone ran a dethy variant with docs instead of cops. It didn't go well for the scum.... Wow. Talk about your Day 1 losses...
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13455
Post by: Neruz on April 07, 2010, 07:36:17 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 08, 2010, 03:11:51 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on April 08, 2010, 03:34:43 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 08, 2010, 03:46:19 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on April 12, 2010, 09:42:39 am
Post by: Vector on April 12, 2010, 11:49:16 am
Where are all the games?
Subforum died. I'm trying to kick up the activity again.
Post by: Mr.Person on April 12, 2010, 01:24:40 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on April 12, 2010, 01:25:01 pm
Would anybody be opposed if we put a Paranormal into sign-ups ASAP?
Aye!
As in, not opposed!
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 12, 2010, 01:37:40 pm
Would anybody be opposed if we put a Paranormal into sign-ups ASAP?
Aye!
As in, not opposed!
Oh hey. You fixed it. After reading the post in my email I was going to come make fun of you... :P
I'd like another round as well. All dead and stuff in Vote Mafia and not in anything else.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 12, 2010, 02:02:45 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 13, 2010, 04:53:52 pm
Post by: webadict on April 13, 2010, 05:47:23 pm
Basically, like Vote Mafia, except you have a couple of choices for which role you can choose (Say, Double Voter, Triple Voter, and Ice Cream Voter) with a couple of modifiers (Secret/Mystery Role as a choice, False, 50%) to balance (There will be limited balancing, for the sake of fun [Say, only 2 or 3 modifiers.])
I like Vote Mafia. I want more games with it.
Post by: Vector on April 13, 2010, 05:50:19 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on April 13, 2010, 05:50:51 pm
I'd play.
I'd play.
I'd play.
I'd play.
I'd play.
Post by: Mr.Person on April 13, 2010, 05:54:12 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 13, 2010, 06:50:37 pm
I'd play.
Post by: webadict on April 14, 2010, 11:17:22 am
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 14, 2010, 04:29:46 pm
Also, DAMN Paranormal 15 filled up fast.
Post by: Eduren on April 21, 2010, 01:35:54 am
I have a setup for TM7 if you guys want that anytime soon(and provided Toony doesn't already have one).
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 21, 2010, 01:45:42 am
Post by: Mr.Person on April 21, 2010, 01:55:32 am
Post by: Vector on April 21, 2010, 12:04:08 pm
Post by: webadict on April 21, 2010, 12:07:33 pm
Does anyone know what happened to dakarian? Did he die? Hospitalized? Move to Amish land?
Post by: Vector on April 21, 2010, 12:08:53 pm
I don't want to take the BM series. I could do another BYOR later, but I'm only running two Mafias at once.
Does anyone know what happened to dakarian? Did he die? Hospitalized? Move to Amish land?
I'll probably take BM XI, at the very least, once I've finished the flavor for IX and the aftermath of X dies down (also, once I've thought up another crazy story). As far as Dakarian goes, he started working two jobs or something and has absolutely no time whatsoever.
Post by: webadict on April 21, 2010, 12:14:48 pm
Post by: Zai on April 21, 2010, 07:51:11 pm
I want my NearlyMountainous. >:[Rah rah chuchubah.
Post by: dakarian on April 23, 2010, 10:27:36 pm
To explain, for about half a year I've been going on a job hunt, with no bites (well, one company that kept saying they are about to take me in but never did after 3 months of calls.
Then boom, I got two jobs from the US government. Both temp but both welcome.. and both starting at about the same time.
Thus at April the 12, My weekday schedule looked like this:
9pm wake up after 2-3 hours of sleep, get ready for job #1.
10:30pm report to job that starts at 11pm (you CAN report on time but the job is 'first come first serve'. Basically, they hire more people than they need thus the first to show up get to work that day and the rest go home with '2 hours take home pay').
Work till 7am, where in I go strait to job #2 that starts at 8:30am.
Work till 5pm, get home at 6pm.
Attempt to sleep the second I get home. Set alarm for 9pm.
Weekends were a mix of job #1 still wanting me to work regular hours, job #2 asking for overtime, and attempts to regain some piece of sleep.
Nevermind not coming to run my only game! I never realized how wonderful getting 4 hours of sleep can be.
But, now I'm a one job person, with the #1 job ending early. It means I can now do some things normally again. Some things, like sleep. As for these forums, it's a mix. I should be able to host regular games again though I'll focus more on fillling in for player demand. Even if I don't run a game, I'll keep the Attendance board running at least so I'll be around.
As for BYOR:C it depends on whether the game is formally alive or dead. I have a few choices:
Get it moving again so it can finish.
Redo it with a MUCH softer ruleset (i.e. the crazy roles everyone had, but with few to no quirks.. a few ways around on that)
Dump it to the side, post up the spreadsheets and move on and pretend it never happened.
Personally, I loved the roles I made up, and some of the quirks (i.e. Xanatos and most of the role-changing ones) but not the ones that REALLY changed the game.
Ok, SERIOUSLY, I'm just happy to be back and don't really care what happens so long as I can get back to the community again.
(yes.. while also playing SC2 and DF. I so miss both games...
..oh and anime, though only a few shows :P)
Post by: Zai on April 23, 2010, 10:50:36 pm
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Get it moving again so it can finish.This one. Definitely this one. At least don't do the second one, as I have a post I have been developing with stuff from the current game, and if you redo it without revealing anything and use exact same roles and such, I won't be able to post it until the new game ends, when this one is already decently in progress, and once the new thread starts it'd be irrelevant anyway.
Post by: Mr.Person on April 24, 2010, 03:03:28 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on May 04, 2010, 11:42:44 am
Post by: Vector on May 04, 2010, 12:40:29 pm
I've been lax about updating this thing lately. Anything I've missed or need to change?
No, sadly. I'm kind of wondering where Dakarian disappeared himself to, though.
Post by: webadict on May 04, 2010, 12:51:26 pm
Post by: Vector on May 04, 2010, 12:58:53 pm
He left for the real world...
He said he was coming back, though ;_;
Post by: webadict on May 04, 2010, 02:06:41 pm
Vector... He's gone.He left for the real world...
He said he was coming back, though ;_;
Post by: Org on May 04, 2010, 03:34:15 pm
Forever.Vector... He's gone.He left for the real world...
He said he was coming back, though ;_;
Post by: Eduren on May 04, 2010, 04:01:59 pm
Post by: Zai on May 04, 2010, 04:32:43 pm
He'll always be alive, in our hearts.Are you suggesting he died?
Post by: Org on May 04, 2010, 04:49:02 pm
You never know.He'll always be alive, in our hearts.Are you suggesting he died?
Post by: Mephansteras on May 04, 2010, 05:06:20 pm
Post by: webadict on May 04, 2010, 05:47:38 pm
He's only been gone since his last post a little over a week. I don't think we need to panic yet.It's too late for that. I called 911 and everything.
Post by: Org on May 04, 2010, 05:49:57 pm
Only 911?He's only been gone since his last post a little over a week. I don't think we need to panic yet.It's too late for that. I called 911 and everything.
Webadict is heartless.
Post by: webadict on May 04, 2010, 07:05:06 pm
It's hard when the only thing you know about him is the word "dakarian"!Only 911?He's only been gone since his last post a little over a week. I don't think we need to panic yet.It's too late for that. I called 911 and everything.
Webadict is heartless.
Post by: Leafsnail on May 04, 2010, 07:11:18 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on May 04, 2010, 07:14:17 pm
Caller: Yeah, I want to report a missing person
911: Ok, could you give us details on this missing person?
Caller: Sure. Uh, they go by [handle] on [message board], and we haven't seen them in months. I think they might be in trouble
911:...can you give us any more details? Their actual name? Where they live? A description?
Caller: Not really. I don't even know if it's a guy or a girl.
911:...I'm not sure we can help you.
Post by: Org on May 04, 2010, 07:19:48 pm
I wonder how often 911 gets calls like that.Hehe.
Caller: Yeah, I want to report a missing person
911: Ok, could you give us details on this missing person?
Caller: Sure. Uh, they go by [handle] on [message board], and we haven't seen them in months. I think they might be in trouble
911:...can you give us any more details? Their actual name? Where they live? A description?
Caller: Not really. I don't even know if it's a guy or a girl.
911:...I'm not sure we can help you.
Post by: ToonyMan on May 04, 2010, 07:46:56 pm
Dakarian is a cat!
Post by: Neruz on May 04, 2010, 07:47:42 pm
Post by: Zai on May 04, 2010, 07:52:45 pm
So he's been run over by a car!?!Actually, he got eaten by a mongoose.
Post by: webadict on May 04, 2010, 08:02:42 pm
Post by: webadict on May 05, 2010, 02:40:21 pm
Post by: Eduren on May 05, 2010, 03:29:36 pm
Post by: webadict on May 05, 2010, 03:39:41 pm
If we need a BYOR, I can run one.You fool! Of course we do!
Post by: Leafsnail on May 05, 2010, 04:57:44 pm
Post by: Zai on May 05, 2010, 05:00:25 pm
Don't forget or be lazy like Pandar.
Post by: Leafsnail on May 05, 2010, 05:02:10 pm
And I can probably run Bay 12 Mafia 2 after my oral exams finish.
Post by: Eduren on May 05, 2010, 05:09:35 pm
Post by: Zai on May 05, 2010, 05:33:52 pm
I spoiled you for Hangman, right?Oui oui, monsieur.
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 10, 2010, 12:38:58 am
I do still plan on running a new, improved I//S//E eventually, by the way!
Post by: Vector on May 10, 2010, 12:43:33 am
COME ON. PARTY -> START DESU
Post by: Neruz on May 10, 2010, 01:42:50 am
Post by: RedWarrior0 on May 10, 2010, 07:03:57 am
Post by: Mephansteras on May 13, 2010, 10:48:02 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 13, 2010, 10:50:02 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on May 13, 2010, 10:50:51 pm
Post by: Org on May 13, 2010, 11:04:35 pm
But, as it will be para mafia, in.
Post by: Solifuge on May 14, 2010, 08:19:33 am
Post by: Leafsnail on May 14, 2010, 10:52:18 am
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Siblings - One mafioso and one innocent, they know each other (rarely both innocent or mafia)This is basically a free mafia member given to the town...
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 14, 2010, 09:05:39 pm
Post by: Org on May 14, 2010, 09:07:23 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on May 15, 2010, 05:17:34 pm
Post by: Org on May 15, 2010, 10:43:41 pm
Too bad Neruz is banned.
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 15, 2010, 10:55:08 pm
Drop Senate Mafia.?
Too bad Neruz is banned.
Post by: ToonyMan on May 15, 2010, 11:31:36 pm
Post by: Eduren on May 15, 2010, 11:37:06 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on May 15, 2010, 11:44:49 pm
Neruz was banned.Perma?
What happened?
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 15, 2010, 11:57:10 pm
Neruz was banned.Perma?
What happened?
Post by: Mephansteras on May 15, 2010, 11:58:10 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on May 16, 2010, 12:00:34 am
Neruz was banned.Perma?
What happened?
Pathos has been warned. Neruz has been warned/muted five times, and that's about enough, so he's been banned permanently (this includes going back to the atheist thread a third time after being told to stay away from it two times). If you can't behave in a civil fashion, don't post. If you feel you have been insulted, don't reply with insults, use the moderator button.
Right here.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on May 16, 2010, 12:07:04 am
He might still play on #mafia. I don't know.
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 16, 2010, 03:21:38 am
Neruz, if you're reading this, you will be missed. By me at least.
He might still play on #mafia. I don't know.
Seconded. Catch you on #mafia, Neruz.
Post by: Alexhans on May 16, 2010, 03:29:13 am
He will definetly play #mafia...
Post by: Leafsnail on May 16, 2010, 07:57:02 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 16, 2010, 08:15:20 am
He can't read this... if you're banned, you can't even open the forums.Unnnnnnnnnless you don't log in?
Post by: Zai on May 16, 2010, 09:47:22 am
Post by: webadict on May 16, 2010, 10:14:53 am
Post by: Leafsnail on May 16, 2010, 10:58:23 am
IP block, I believe.He can't read this... if you're banned, you can't even open the forums.Unnnnnnnnnless you don't log in?
Post by: Org on May 16, 2010, 11:07:51 am
Post by: ToonyMan on May 16, 2010, 11:08:32 am
So, anyone going to do MSPA mafia now?
I suppose I would...
Post by: RedWarrior0 on May 16, 2010, 01:40:27 pm
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on May 16, 2010, 02:08:57 pm
Should I do TVTropes iPick soon?
Yes.
Post by: Leafsnail on May 16, 2010, 02:17:10 pm
:/
Post by: spitfire684 on May 16, 2010, 05:16:36 pm
I am going to make a 'monks and masons' style game and it will be my first game that I will mod on bay 12.
Signups will be open very soon after I post the thread. Please sign up if you wanna play, I need 12 people after all xD.
Post by: webadict on May 16, 2010, 06:27:32 pm
Post by: spitfire684 on May 16, 2010, 06:29:22 pm
Post by: Vector on May 16, 2010, 06:32:00 pm
Hey, apparently I have been told that you post here if you are setting up a new game, so here goes.
I am going to make a 'monks and masons' style game and it will be my first game that I will mod on bay 12.
Signups will be open very soon after I post the thread. Please sign up if you wanna play, I need 12 people after all xD.
Yup, you need to post soon, but in general you need to get permission to put your game in signups. Given the low signup flood for Dethy, I'm going to suggest waiting a little while to begin until the other two games we've filled have gotten to D2 or so.
Post by: Mr.Person on May 16, 2010, 06:37:02 pm
Post by: webadict on May 16, 2010, 06:47:28 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on May 16, 2010, 07:00:05 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 16, 2010, 07:03:11 pm
Post by: webadict on May 16, 2010, 07:17:36 pm
I think I might be up for running a basic pure vanilla (9 players, basic roles, mostly non-role townies). Would anyone be interested?Define basic: Is it Doc and Cop... Doc/Cop/Vig... Doc/Cop/Vig/RB?
What?
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 16, 2010, 07:28:09 pm
Post by: Vector on May 16, 2010, 07:35:26 pm
I want a Nearly-Mountainous Mafia. :c
^ Yes, run one, GlyphGryph. Do et.
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 17, 2010, 08:50:30 am
I'll post sign-ups in a bit.
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 17, 2010, 01:07:52 pm
Post by: webadict on May 17, 2010, 06:52:36 pm
And I'll run BM11, because I have nothing better to do.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on May 17, 2010, 07:05:38 pm
Post by: Toaster on May 17, 2010, 07:06:45 pm
Post by: Criptfeind on May 17, 2010, 07:23:24 pm
Post by: webadict on May 17, 2010, 07:23:55 pm
Dethy Deluxe seems to have a lack of interest...I'd play if it weren't a closed setup.
Post by: Org on May 17, 2010, 07:24:31 pm
I think.
Dak is gone.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on May 17, 2010, 07:27:26 pm
I don't wanna reveal the Mafia roles or the Third Party.Dethy Deluxe seems to have a lack of interest...I'd play if it weren't a closed setup.
Post by: webadict on May 17, 2010, 08:00:41 pm
You don't have to. I'm neither demanding you do nor anything else. I'm just not interested in that kind of a game.I don't wanna reveal the Mafia roles or the Third Party.Dethy Deluxe seems to have a lack of interest...I'd play if it weren't a closed setup.
Post by: Mr.Person on May 17, 2010, 09:28:05 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 18, 2010, 08:15:02 am
Blargh.
Post by: Leafsnail on May 18, 2010, 09:53:44 am
Post by: JanusTwoface on May 18, 2010, 09:55:34 am
Quote from: Toady One
The forum seems to have set everybody's personal messaging to only accept messages from Administrators. We don't have any idea at this time why this happened. You can go into Profile -> Personal Messaging -> "Receive personal messages from:" and change it back to "All Members" to get things back to normal. It also works from My Messages -> Change Settings.
Mods may want to mention it in their games if people aren't being responsive.
Post by: Vector on May 18, 2010, 11:30:49 am
I'd like to suggest adding Doppelganger Doomsday (the game being discussed on the Bay 12 Mafia thread). Dunno exactly how it'll work yet... I was thinking it'd be a game of "find the original" (y'know, like that scene in the movie where you have to decide which of the twins is the evil one), but other ways could work too.
Try running it in a bit--way too much going on right now (I think. I need to actually update the Signboard to be sure).
Post by: Org on May 19, 2010, 07:38:34 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on May 20, 2010, 07:57:28 pm
Post by: Org on May 22, 2010, 06:23:06 pm
After I finish Beginner's Mafia XR.
Post by: Eduren on May 25, 2010, 05:06:06 am
Post by: Mephansteras on May 25, 2010, 09:45:43 am
Anybody not in EBYOR willing to field a few last minute questions? Just want to make sure that what I'm doing isn't totally wrong.
I can help if you want.
Post by: webadict on May 29, 2010, 07:22:34 pm
Post by: Org on May 29, 2010, 08:03:57 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 29, 2010, 10:31:12 pm
Post by: Org on May 30, 2010, 08:31:00 am
It makes it even more impossible for scum with known roles.
Post by: webadict on May 30, 2010, 11:13:40 am
Post by: Org on May 30, 2010, 12:28:43 pm
So, open and no knowns?|
no open, no knowns.
Post by: Mr.Person on May 30, 2010, 04:03:14 pm
So, open and no knowns?|
no open, no knowns.
I agree with Org (WAIT WHAT THE)
Post by: Leafsnail on May 30, 2010, 04:06:18 pm
Then again, in the recent Vote Mafia, roles completely owned the town because noone was paying attention, so...
Basically you have to treat almost every day after the first as lylo.
Post by: webadict on May 30, 2010, 05:03:04 pm
It'll keep ya guessing.
Post by: Mr.Person on May 30, 2010, 05:03:32 pm
Post by: webadict on May 30, 2010, 05:34:29 pm
Post by: Criptfeind on June 10, 2010, 08:26:59 pm
Yes, but it was also possible to give the permanent voter double or even triple votes.
That would have been very funny.
Anyone mind if I run the Beginners Mafia 13 sometimes in the next couple days? I think I should work on my modding skills and I think if I jump on it I can get a freind to join.
Post by: webadict on June 10, 2010, 09:55:30 pm
Post by: Org on June 10, 2010, 10:00:57 pm
Post by: Criptfeind on June 11, 2010, 07:25:50 am
I will probably be starting it today or tomorrow.
Post by: Criptfeind on June 11, 2010, 02:58:49 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on June 14, 2010, 03:16:10 pm
Anything I'm missing?
Post by: Toaster on June 14, 2010, 03:53:19 pm
Post by: webadict on June 14, 2010, 05:04:08 pm
Post by: Eduren on June 14, 2010, 07:46:40 pm
Try August.Tough luck dude.
Post by: Org on June 26, 2010, 09:26:40 pm
Post by: Org on June 26, 2010, 09:27:06 pm
Post by: Org on June 27, 2010, 07:52:44 am
- Supernatural Mafia
- Monks and Masons Mafia
- Bay 12 Mafia
- Beginner's Mafia 12
Games in Signups:
- Dethy Deluxe
- Vote Mafia 7 (Waiting on Webadict to have internet)
Games in Queue:
- Sudden Death Mafia
Planned Games:
- Illuminatus
- Prism
- Wizard Duel 4
- Paranormal Mafia 17
- Bring Someone Else's Role Mafia
Just Copy-Paste this Meph.
Is it okay if I speed my game to signups, or does someone else want to bring a game up?
Post by: Pandarsenic on June 27, 2010, 08:59:10 am
Post by: RedWarrior0 on June 27, 2010, 01:09:44 pm
Post by: Lonewolf I on July 15, 2010, 06:42:36 pm
And what are the odds for roles showing up?
Even odds Cop, Doc, None, or Both, right?
And same for Godfather and Roleblocker?
Post by: Diablous on July 15, 2010, 06:44:35 pm
Mind if I mod Beginner's Mafia 13?
I was gonna ask to do that. Go ahead. I claim BM 14.
Post by: JanusTwoface on July 15, 2010, 06:47:41 pm
Post by: Diablous on July 15, 2010, 06:50:26 pm
Where do all the Beginner's Mafia people go?
They decide to try the game out, after it is done they decide they don't enjoy mafia and don't sign up for others.
Post by: Lonewolf I on July 15, 2010, 06:52:15 pm
Like me. :P
Post by: Diablous on July 15, 2010, 06:55:25 pm
And what are the odds for roles showing up?
Even odds Cop, Doc, None, or Both, right?
I think it's 50% chance one of the townies is a cop, 50% chance one of the townies is a doc. Same 50% chance thing for Mafia roleblocker and Godfather.
And none of them are exclusive.
Post by: SHAD0Wdump on July 16, 2010, 05:06:00 am
I want to know how easily I can bring this thing in.
Post by: Mephansteras on July 16, 2010, 10:00:41 am
On a somewhat related note, what should I run next? Wizard Duel 4, Paranormal 17, or Supernatural 2?
Post by: Lonewolf I on July 16, 2010, 05:22:25 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on July 17, 2010, 09:28:36 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on July 19, 2010, 11:53:47 am
Post by: Vector on July 22, 2010, 12:29:25 pm
Should I roll out Bring Your Own Trope mafia some time soon?
I am dying to play this.
Post by: Eduren on July 22, 2010, 12:35:54 pm
Post by: Lonewolf I on July 22, 2010, 06:31:57 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on July 22, 2010, 07:44:45 pm
Post by: Criptfeind on July 22, 2010, 08:08:02 pm
After Man ofSCIENCEinCONSISTENT UPDATES!! gets an update.
First though is spoiled spectating for that one game.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on July 22, 2010, 09:17:33 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on July 22, 2010, 11:56:20 pm
Post by: Vector on July 23, 2010, 11:10:25 am
You all suck D:
>_>
C'mon, please run it. It's going to be a ridiculously amazing game, and the subforum needs a BYOR.
Post by: Pandarsenic on July 23, 2010, 11:18:24 am
URGH.
JERKFACEBUTTS.
Post by: Org on July 23, 2010, 11:21:33 am
I thought it was MAN OF CONSISTENT UPDATES?
Post by: Zai on July 23, 2010, 11:46:11 am
It's not the people bothering you about stuff you claimed you would do but didn't that suck. It's you because you claimed you would do that stuff but didn't.
Post by: Pandarsenic on July 23, 2010, 11:49:34 am
Post by: RedWarrior0 on July 23, 2010, 12:06:26 pm
Spoiler: Mildly relevant (click to show/hide)
Post by: Vector on July 30, 2010, 12:44:46 am
I mean come on. Even Bring Your Own Trope isn't filling up! Seriously!
[/shameless plug]
Post by: webadict on July 30, 2010, 12:52:40 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on July 30, 2010, 04:53:11 am
Post by: Vector on July 30, 2010, 06:03:43 pm
Probably my fault. Without me, people are lost and can't find games. I'll be back, my people. Soon.
Come baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack O Mafia God ~
There's imminent BURNINGS of people who won't join at this rate.
Yeah, I agree. Burn the infidels!
But in more seriousness, I think we've got to rethink what we're doing. For example: why did the old BMs seem to work so much better? What is it about BMs nowadays that is making them have so much trouble?
They seem to have sort of tanked, recently, and I end up wondering what's up... and sort of hoping that I could run something more flavor-heavy to good response in the near future. Not Prism, unfortunately. Just some BMs with a lot of story, and possibly a Near-Mountainous.
I think one of our problems is that we don't have a lot of really skilled mods running around running games right now, to draw in new appeal and kick up the regulars. We also don't have a bunch of innovation. Not much kicking in the Mafia Gametypes thread, for example, and no one is itching to get on the queue over here.
Fortunately, it looks like Webadict will be back pretty soon, and Leafsnail might return eventually. Lonewolf I is shaping up into a capable mod. Kudos to Pandarsenic for continuing to run games... and I, for one, will certainly start modding more in the near future. Just need to finish off BMIX's flavor, as promised, and think up something new.
Post by: Org on July 30, 2010, 06:05:55 pm
Post by: Vector on July 30, 2010, 06:06:46 pm
I cant run games. D:
You can't? Why not?
Post by: Mephansteras on July 30, 2010, 06:07:40 pm
Anything I'm missing?
Post by: Org on July 30, 2010, 06:11:20 pm
Some of the time.
Post by: Vector on July 30, 2010, 06:19:38 pm
I make too many mistakes, in all of the games that I mod.
Some of the time.
Awww... but Aztec Mafia worked really well. Maybe you could just try a bit harder to be careful?
Anything I'm missing?
Bay12 has officially ended. Thanks for the hard work, Meph.
Post by: webadict on July 30, 2010, 09:02:34 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on July 30, 2010, 09:33:31 pm
Post by: Vector on July 30, 2010, 09:49:54 pm
As Dethy Deluxe is, One Shot and Second Chance were examples of my complete ineptitude at modding games. And then there was Quantum, but that's like complaining about Obama and bringing Bush into the equation. I may attempt to redo it, but not without a LOOOONG thought about it.
To be honest, I really loved Quantum. And parallel. In fact... perhaps... yes, it's true.
I'd like to run a rendition of parallel. Any takers?
Post by: Mr.Person on July 30, 2010, 10:06:17 pm
As Dethy Deluxe is, One Shot and Second Chance were examples of my complete ineptitude at modding games. And then there was Quantum, but that's like complaining about Obama and bringing Bush into the equation. I may attempt to redo it, but not without a LOOOONG thought about it.
That's very odd. As a thought exercise and because I may want to do it in the future, I math'd out an entire first night of 9p Quantum Mafia in OpenCalc (Excel). I think it's right, but of course I've got no way to be sure. At any rate, there's averages I can hand out to the players. And of course the flavor can be hilarious with stuff like
"You feel 33% dead
You feel 17% like the head conspirator
You feel 17% like the secondary conspirator
You feel 13% like the cop
If you're the cop, Webadict is town
What the FUCK? All of these can't be right... can they? Certainly not at the same time... Well, it won't be the weirdest thing to happen here at CERN after the accident."
Course I'm not a good flavor guy or mod, but hey, whatever. It was... ok, it wasn't fun, it took 5 hours, and I've got nothing useful to show for it, but I did it, damnit.
Post by: webadict on July 30, 2010, 10:27:04 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on July 30, 2010, 10:30:06 pm
If you're not the cop, I'm 50% town.
Let's not make things even more complicated than they are to begin with.
"Vote Org"
"There is a 50% chance you're voting Org, 50% chance you're no lynching"
"Ok uhh...unvote Org, vote Meph!"
"There is a 33% chance you're voting Org, 33% chance you've voting Meph, 33% chance you're no lynching"
"..."
Post by: Lonewolf I on July 30, 2010, 11:24:28 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on July 31, 2010, 02:53:31 am
Well, I'm sorry to disappoint you then. It may be bad, but it won't be that bad. I still need a somewhat fuvked up mechanic, though Quantum gives me a start.
Post by: Pandarsenic on July 31, 2010, 03:09:54 am
Post by: RedWarrior0 on July 31, 2010, 03:15:52 am
I'm still ironing out the kinks, however. It's like trying to grasp the size of Cthulhu.
Post by: Vector on July 31, 2010, 10:30:03 am
As led up to by me previous post, I may or may not run Paralell Quantum Backwards Crazy Time Shit Mindfuck Mafia with a dash of "Fucked Up Like Euclidian Geometry in Escher's Works" and a healthy side of "Unreasonably messed up puzzles that make a little sense out of context but ohgodmybrain".
I'm still ironing out the kinks, however. It's like trying to grasp the size of Cthulhu.
Puzzles? I'm always down for puzzles.
Post by: webadict on July 31, 2010, 11:37:38 am
Post by: Mephansteras on August 03, 2010, 07:03:31 pm
Here (https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=tFao9JKMGWv75aSMIT99vbQ#gid=0) it is for those who want to use it for their games.
Just make a copy for your own use. I wouldn't want anyone to use THIS copy for their game, since it's open for anyone to view.
Post by: Org on August 03, 2010, 07:23:33 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on August 03, 2010, 07:25:24 pm
Post by: Org on August 03, 2010, 07:26:31 pm
Post by: Org on August 03, 2010, 07:30:19 pm
Post by: webadict on August 03, 2010, 10:13:40 pm
Post by: webadict on August 06, 2010, 09:55:52 pm
And the fun part is that I am currently at home for the weekend and therefore can grab all the necessary information from my neighbors...
What say ye?
Post by: Archangel on August 06, 2010, 10:36:13 pm
Post by: webadict on August 06, 2010, 11:12:41 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on August 06, 2010, 11:15:53 pm
Post by: webadict on August 06, 2010, 11:19:30 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on August 06, 2010, 11:26:21 pm
It'd still get delayed: He has a midterm during that time.
FFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
You're welcome, Padarsenic.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 07, 2010, 12:22:06 am
Post by: webadict on August 07, 2010, 08:14:48 am
Post by: Eduren on August 07, 2010, 09:33:18 am
Post by: Lonewolf I on August 07, 2010, 09:49:10 am
Post by: webadict on August 07, 2010, 09:56:09 am
Post by: Mr.Person on August 07, 2010, 10:00:09 am
Post by: Eduren on August 07, 2010, 10:21:49 am
Post by: ToonyMan on August 07, 2010, 10:25:59 am
woah, that gives me a great idea for a themed mafia game
Post by: Vector on August 07, 2010, 10:31:02 am
I was thinking of a Themed BYOR but all I can think of is Bring Your Own Historical Figure
This actually sounds pretty cool.
Post by: webadict on August 07, 2010, 10:35:29 am
Post by: Vector on August 07, 2010, 10:37:18 am
Bring Your Own Mythological Figure
... This actually sounds even more cool.
Post by: Lonewolf I on August 07, 2010, 11:38:52 am
Post by: Zai on August 07, 2010, 03:23:30 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on August 07, 2010, 09:16:36 pm
Wait. No. Here it is:
Bring Your Own "Bring Your Own _____"?
Post by: Vector on August 07, 2010, 09:47:04 pm
"Bring your own Mafia Mafia" ?
Post by: Mr.Person on August 07, 2010, 10:17:55 pm
Post by: webadict on August 07, 2010, 10:21:56 pm
Post by: Toaster on August 07, 2010, 11:28:32 pm
Or the obvious: Bring your own Beer.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on August 08, 2010, 01:03:58 am
No wait, that might turn out badly.
Post by: Vector on August 08, 2010, 01:08:57 am
Bring your own body part?
No wait, that might turn out badly.
o_O
I call elbow!
Post by: RedWarrior0 on August 08, 2010, 01:14:59 am
Post by: Criptfeind on August 08, 2010, 01:15:12 am
Run a game of Bring Your Own Historical or Mythological Figure!
Is that not everybody ever?
Post by: webadict on August 08, 2010, 01:16:30 am
Post by: Vector on August 08, 2010, 01:16:45 am
Somewhat inappropriate: BYOSP. Take a guess.
Bring Your Own Soda Pop.
Hm.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on August 08, 2010, 01:19:15 am
Post by: webadict on August 08, 2010, 01:21:53 am
Post by: RedWarrior0 on August 08, 2010, 03:16:45 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 08, 2010, 04:05:24 am
OOH
I WANT TO BRING THE SUPER POWER OF TELEPATHY
Post by: Vector on August 08, 2010, 11:38:55 am
Post by: Eduren on August 08, 2010, 12:02:44 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on August 08, 2010, 12:03:32 pm
Do I smell a Mafia Board Renaissance? I think I do.
You jinxed it!
Post by: Eduren on August 08, 2010, 12:04:41 pm
D:Do I smell a Mafia Board Renaissance? I think I do.
You jinxed it!
Post by: Lonewolf I on August 17, 2010, 10:05:40 pm
Post by: Vector on August 17, 2010, 10:35:43 pm
No BM14 yet because?
Meh. I'm considering trying to run that (with reduced flavor), though I think it might be better if someone else took it.
If no one else wants to, though, I can certainly handle the duty.
Post by: Lonewolf I on August 17, 2010, 10:46:13 pm
Mind if I mod Beginner's Mafia 13?
I was gonna ask to do that. Go ahead. I claim BM 14.
Check with Diablous first.
Post by: Diablous on August 18, 2010, 10:50:48 am
Post by: RedWarrior0 on August 18, 2010, 10:01:35 pm
Post by: Toaster on August 18, 2010, 10:08:27 pm
Post by: Eduren on August 18, 2010, 10:25:12 pm
Post by: Eduren on August 18, 2010, 10:30:29 pm
Post by: webadict on August 18, 2010, 10:36:01 pm
Wait, how would you guys feel about resurrecting dakarian's Parallel Mafia?lol. Maybe.
Post by: Vector on August 18, 2010, 11:08:08 pm
Another thought: you're going to probably want to wait on whatever you have planned for a little bit. I think we're starting to hit our upper levels for the number of games that should be running at one time. Mapped mafia and BYOR 4 are about to kick up, BMIV is insta-filling, and we have a couple games already.
Post by: Eduren on August 18, 2010, 11:44:02 pm
Post by: Scatterbrain on August 19, 2010, 03:58:23 am
Post by: Eduren on August 19, 2010, 04:46:38 am
Post by: JanusTwoface on August 19, 2010, 08:11:33 am
Maybe TF2 would have more luck.
Post by: webadict on August 19, 2010, 09:40:24 am
Really? Toast024 has a DF Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63167.msg1457877#msg1457877) that's been in signups for a couple weeks and it only has 3/12. I thought that'd fill up, but meh. I know there are others with problems as well.It hasn't filled up because it's too vague on what it's providing.
Maybe TF2 would have more luck.
Post by: Org on August 19, 2010, 04:14:35 pm
So it would be a bad idea to make WIFOM Mafia?Really? Toast024 has a DF Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63167.msg1457877#msg1457877) that's been in signups for a couple weeks and it only has 3/12. I thought that'd fill up, but meh. I know there are others with problems as well.It hasn't filled up because it's too vague on what it's providing.
Maybe TF2 would have more luck.
Post by: Mephansteras on August 19, 2010, 04:18:35 pm
Thoughts on what I should do next?
Post by: Vector on August 19, 2010, 04:47:59 pm
Supernatural Mafia is going to be winding down soon (only 6 people alive at the start of Night 4).
Thoughts on what I should do next?
Whatever it is, please wait until BYOR 4 and mapped mafia are near the end of D1 to open signups. Also:
Active games:
Please remove BMXIII and Dethy, while adding Mapped Mafia, BYOR 4, BYOT, Vote mafia 7.
Signups:
Please remove all and add BMXIV and DF mafia
Queue:
Please remove DF mafia.
Thanks for taking care of this, Meph !
Post by: Org on August 19, 2010, 07:15:15 pm
Supernatural Mafia is going to be winding down soon (only 6 people alive at the start of Night 4).PLEASE WIZARD DUEl. PLEASE. OR SOMETHING SIMILIAR. PLEASE.
Thoughts on what I should do next?
Post by: Lonewolf I on August 19, 2010, 10:30:20 pm
Supernatural Mafia is going to be winding down soon (only 6 people alive at the start of Night 4).PLEASE WIZARD DUEL. PLEASE.
Thoughts on what I should do next?
Post by: Toaster on August 19, 2010, 10:40:47 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on August 20, 2010, 09:44:24 am
Post by: SHAD0Wdump on August 20, 2010, 02:43:33 pm
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=64303.msg1500005#msg1500005
Until then, please discuss the game mechanics in that thread.
Post by: Mr.Person on August 20, 2010, 03:42:24 pm
So it would be a bad idea to make WIFOM Mafia?
As long as you're not vague it should be fine, but I would wait til Mapped and Wizard Duel 4 both finish since it's best to only have 1 not-really-mafia-but-still-mafia game going on at a time.
Post by: Scatterbrain on August 20, 2010, 05:27:40 pm
Post by: Vector on August 20, 2010, 05:30:11 pm
well, i've gone and written a humongous flavour for the tf2 mafia, and i have the roles pretty much planned out in my head; so expect it to happen after i get some more experience of mafia itsself.
Hey, awesome! Always good to see a newbie getting in on the modding action.
Just a sidenote: you might want to talk to one of the more experienced mods, like Pandarsenic, Webadict, or Mephansteras about balancing roles. It's always good to have a mentor around when you're running your first game =)
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 20, 2010, 06:41:56 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on August 20, 2010, 06:42:54 pm
Bad Pandarsenic! That's almost as bad as including a Ghost...
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 20, 2010, 06:46:23 pm
2. Include Lich
3. Everyone hates you
4. ? ? ?
5. Profit
Post by: Vector on August 20, 2010, 08:08:34 pm
Those are problems.
Everyone wants to play a game, but it seems like we're really having a lot of trouble getting the suckers started Pandarsenic.
Post by: webadict on August 20, 2010, 08:29:20 pm
Post by: Vector on August 20, 2010, 09:09:03 pm
I'm close to being finished with the roles. I just need a few more tweaks. It'll be running by tomorrow.
Okay, good. That means two games slated to start running tomorrow, out of the FOUR that are currently waiting in the wings.
Once those have gotten out of RVS or so, I'm going to suggest that we put one or two queued games in signups. It's kind of sad to be stuck with only one game open and 4 waiting.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on August 20, 2010, 09:52:08 pm
Put in a Double-Voter Daykiller Lynch-Immune Vigilante.And who would that be?
Engineer could probably be PWV, Medic is obv doctor, (other team) Spy is obv scum, allied spy is ???.
Post by: Scatterbrain on August 21, 2010, 10:01:17 am
Put in a Double-Voter Daykiller Lynch-Immune Vigilante.And who would that be?
dead ringer spy D;
thanks vector. i'm hoping it won't need too much tweaking as it's pretty much all fairly vanilla roles (two of them being slightly altered, nothing drastic); the hardest bit will probably be balancing the town vs scum / town power roles vs scum power roles, in terms of numbers of each. but yes, i'll be sure to run it by somebody :D
Post by: Eduren on August 21, 2010, 02:36:44 pm
Post by: Scatterbrain on August 21, 2010, 02:57:10 pm
edit: also, for anyone planning to play the game, don't read too much into anything i'm saying here (e.g 'no really weird/different roles' and soforth) as everything's still very much in development.
Post by: JoshuaFH on August 22, 2010, 06:28:11 pm
Well, I'm thinking of getting back in, and I want to host the next Beginner's Mafia. Number 15 was it? Yeah, I can do that. I want to do it so Aqizzar and some of the other GD fellows can perhaps get into it. Vector told me that it might be prudent to start sign-ups on Wednesday.
Post by: Vector on August 22, 2010, 06:32:09 pm
Wow, you guys have gotten really organized since I've dropped out of mafia.
Well, I'm thinking of getting back in, and I want to host the next Beginner's Mafia. Number 15 was it? Yeah, I can do that. I want to do it so Aqizzar and some of the other GD fellows can perhaps get into it. Vector told me that it might be prudent to start sign-ups on Wednesday.
Haha ^_^;;
I'm so glad to see you around here again! I've been really missing all the old regulars. As far as "why Wednesday," I think it works best to start signups around the beginning of D2 for the previous game (which should be scheduled Wednesdayish). So, please take a look around, refamiliarize yourself, figure out how you want to do things, and then let us all know when you're ready to head the show roadwards.
Post by: ein on August 22, 2010, 06:43:02 pm
Wow, you guys have gotten really organized since I've dropped out of mafia.
Well, I'm thinking of getting back in, and I want to host the next Beginner's Mafia. Number 15 was it? Yeah, I can do that. I want to do it so Aqizzar and some of the other GD fellows can perhaps get into it. Vector told me that it might be prudent to start sign-ups on Wednesday.
This'll be as good a chance as any to pick this up, so expect me there.
Post by: webadict on August 22, 2010, 07:23:32 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on August 22, 2010, 07:33:12 pm
Post by: webadict on August 22, 2010, 07:50:31 pm
Post by: Eduren on August 22, 2010, 08:30:22 pm
Post by: JoshuaFH on August 22, 2010, 08:39:50 pm
Post by: Org on August 22, 2010, 08:58:06 pm
Post by: webadict on August 22, 2010, 09:11:02 pm
Dakarian isn't coming back.Dude, he dead.
Probably.
Post by: Org on August 22, 2010, 09:12:07 pm
Nah, he just has alot of work.Dakarian isn't coming back.Dude, he dead.
Probably.
Post by: Zai on August 22, 2010, 09:13:09 pm
:'(Dakarian isn't coming back.Dude, he dead.
Probably.
Post by: webadict on August 22, 2010, 09:13:22 pm
Oh... you mean... with the CENSUS?!?Nah, he just has alot of work.Dakarian isn't coming back.Dude, he dead.
Probably.
Yeah, that's still going on.
Post by: Eduren on August 22, 2010, 09:44:15 pm
Post by: Vector on August 22, 2010, 09:47:20 pm
I shall just have to make up for his absence :I
Post by: ToonyMan on August 22, 2010, 09:51:57 pm
Post by: webadict on August 22, 2010, 09:56:16 pm
He's gotta be in his early 30s or late 20s, as I believe he was out of school for some time.
He once worked for the Census Bureau during the seasonal increase needed in workers. Ergo, he is likely employed in a menial job as of now (That was his SECOND job.)
He owns a cat named Litia.
Post by: Eduren on August 22, 2010, 10:05:50 pm
From my amateur detective work, he lives in or around Atlanta, Georgia.Your detective work is better than mine. My google-fu has failed me.
He's gotta be in his early 30s or late 20s, as I believe he was out of school for some time.
He once worked for the Census Bureau during the seasonal increase needed in workers. Ergo, he is likely employed in a menial job as of now (That was his SECOND job.)
He owns a cat named Litia.
Post by: Vector on August 22, 2010, 10:07:15 pm
From my amateur detective work, he lives in or around Atlanta, Georgia.
He's gotta be in his early 30s or late 20s, as I believe he was out of school for some time.
He once worked for the Census Bureau during the seasonal increase needed in workers. Ergo, he is likely employed in a menial job as of now (That was his SECOND job.)
He owns a cat named Litia.
Hm... I've matched you on everything, except the location. How'd you get Atlanta, Georgia?
Post by: webadict on August 22, 2010, 10:12:00 pm
I did a backtrace on a hostname. The hostname belonged to BellSouth.net, which resides in Atlanta, GA.From my amateur detective work, he lives in or around Atlanta, Georgia.
He's gotta be in his early 30s or late 20s, as I believe he was out of school for some time.
He once worked for the Census Bureau during the seasonal increase needed in workers. Ergo, he is likely employed in a menial job as of now (That was his SECOND job.)
He owns a cat named Litia.
Hm... I've matched you on everything, except the location. How'd you get Atlanta, Georgia?
Look, the less you know about what I know about you, the less likely ninjas are going to show up at your house while you sleep.
Post by: Vector on August 22, 2010, 10:13:19 pm
You astound me, dear Webby, you really do :3
Post by: ToonyMan on August 22, 2010, 10:15:05 pm
Post by: webadict on August 22, 2010, 10:23:03 pm
Ahhhh! No wonder.MUAHAHAHAH! Unfortunately, the search ends there. I can't find anything that relates further than that, because I don't know his first or last name. I don't believe he gave us any of those.
You astound me, dear Webby, you really do :3
Where do I live Wuba?Dallas, Texas?
Post by: RedWarrior0 on August 22, 2010, 10:32:50 pm
And Toony doesn't live in Texas. IIRC, I saw some East coast thing that he apparently was mentioned in. Something like that.
Post by: webadict on August 22, 2010, 10:33:43 pm
How about moi?Texas has an east coast!
And Toony doesn't live in Texas. IIRC, I saw some East coast thing that he apparently was mentioned in. Something like that.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on August 22, 2010, 10:34:37 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on August 22, 2010, 10:36:09 pm
Post by: webadict on August 22, 2010, 10:39:32 pm
How about moi?Where the heck is Mt. Laurel, New Jersey?
And Toony doesn't live in Texas. IIRC, I saw some East coast thing that he apparently was mentioned in. Something like that.
And how does one avoid it?
I imagine Wuba lives in a royal palace somewhere giving orders to make believe people.At least I have a royal palace.
Post by: webadict on August 22, 2010, 10:51:47 pm
Post by: Lonewolf I on August 22, 2010, 10:54:16 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on August 22, 2010, 10:55:26 pm
Hell if I know. I'm in Plymouth, MA right now but live elsewhere.How about moi?Where the heck is Mt. Laurel, New Jersey?
And Toony doesn't live in Texas. IIRC, I saw some East coast thing that he apparently was mentioned in. Something like that.
Post by: JoshuaFH on August 22, 2010, 10:55:56 pm
All three. All of them.
Post by: webadict on August 22, 2010, 11:03:44 pm
Everyone knows that Toony lives in Canada, Maine, and Rhode Island.Only on Friday.
All three. All of them.
Post by: webadict on August 22, 2010, 11:04:21 pm
Maine? Bah!Hell if I know. I'm in Plymouth, MA right now but live elsewhere.How about moi?Where the heck is Mt. Laurel, New Jersey?
And Toony doesn't live in Texas. IIRC, I saw some East coast thing that he apparently was mentioned in. Something like that.
Go back to Jersey.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 22, 2010, 11:12:04 pm
Post by: Eduren on August 22, 2010, 11:13:43 pm
West coast representin!
Post by: webadict on August 22, 2010, 11:19:40 pm
I think I've said where I live before. XDYa did.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 22, 2010, 11:40:57 pm
"THE MATRIX HAS YOU. The 10th Kingdom on everyother day."
Post by: Zai on August 23, 2010, 02:03:43 am
Post by: Vector on August 23, 2010, 11:23:35 am
(I have a really big RL project I need to get out of the way first)
Post by: Solifuge on August 23, 2010, 02:54:06 pm
Wubba isn't on a cellphone anymore! Huzzah!
Post by: webadict on August 23, 2010, 03:17:06 pm
Post by: Eduren on August 24, 2010, 09:14:29 pm
You know the quintessential RVS question, "Who would you want as your scummbubbies if you were mafia?", right? Well, what if the question were actually relevant?
The mod rolls to see which of the players is the godfather(may or may not have godfather powers) and that person chooses two other players to make the scumteam. While there probably will be balance issues with letting people sculpt their scumteam, it could be balanced out with Town power roles.
There could even turn out to be changes in how the game plays out. There could be questions of whether a player is likely to be picked for the scum and plenty of reverse-reverse psychologies possible. Or say that the godfather gets lynched Day1. The resulting days could be spent theorizing about their likely picks.
The biggest issue I see is the kickball problem. Nobody wants to consistently be picked last, and in a game where skill means everything, it would be a major concern. This is mitigated somewhat by the randomness of the godfather pick, and might be mitigated further by the aforementioned reverse psychologies ("Yeah but who would pick Eduren for the scumteam, lololololol, lets just ignore him") where players might be picked for their unlikeliness.
Of course it also might not be fun for the uber-veterans (webadict never makes it past day 1) but we already see some of that going on in regular games.
What do you think?
PS: Working title is Bring Your Own Scum Buddies
Post by: ToonyMan on August 24, 2010, 09:16:03 pm
Post by: Zai on August 24, 2010, 09:30:17 pm
Post by: Org on August 24, 2010, 09:31:10 pm
OR WOULD HE.
Post by: webadict on August 24, 2010, 09:31:53 pm
Post by: Eduren on August 24, 2010, 09:33:07 pm
@Eduren: they have a game like that. It's called Kill Webadict Now.Don't play if you don't want to. :P
Post by: Zai on August 24, 2010, 09:36:14 pm
Question for Eduren, the obvious host: upon the Godfather's death in a Mountainous Pick Your Scum (official name for this gametype), would his role be revealed, or just that he was Mafia?
[PPE:] Eduren, will your PYS/PUS game be Mountainous or roled? I'd prefer Mountainous. Otherwise, I'll have to think about joining.
Post by: webadict on August 24, 2010, 09:36:21 pm
Post by: Zai on August 24, 2010, 09:48:27 pm
I'd STILL be lynched!Play Different
Post by: ToonyMan on August 24, 2010, 09:51:00 pm
Play With Other People That Don't Lynch You For Playing How You AreI'd STILL be lynched!Play Different
Post by: Eduren on August 24, 2010, 11:39:29 pm
The guy not getting picked is quite well balanced out by the game-integrated WIFOM of "would anybody choose really this guy?"His death will reveal his identity as the Godfather.
Question for Eduren, the obvious host: upon the Godfather's death in a Mountainous Pick Your Scum (official name for this gametype), would his role be revealed, or just that he was Mafia?
[PPE:] Eduren, will your PYS/PUS game be Mountainous or roled? I'd prefer Mountainous. Otherwise, I'll have to think about joining.
We can try mountainous at first. I still think that some simple town power roles would do wonders for balance but we'll see if we need them.
Post by: JoshuaFH on August 25, 2010, 07:09:26 pm
Post by: Vector on August 25, 2010, 07:14:33 pm
I guess I'll start signups for BM 15 now.
Yup, go for it! Thanks for the heads up.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 25, 2010, 07:20:25 pm
I guess I'll start signups for BM 15 now.
Tell everybody in the happy thread that wanted to join!
Post by: Org on August 25, 2010, 08:35:48 pm
Post by: Scatterbrain on August 26, 2010, 03:22:30 am
HOMESTUCK MAFIA IS IN THE MAKINGS, AWAITING BALANCING.
!!!
but... how many trolls will there be? i stopped reading it altogether when it switched to troll-land, the kingdom of TL;DR.
Post by: webadict on August 30, 2010, 10:18:47 am
I can also try to add some more games, but we'll see how it goes from there.
Post by: Vector on August 30, 2010, 01:00:45 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on August 30, 2010, 01:50:20 pm
I have an idea for a bastard mod, if there is enough room for that.
I can also try to add some more games, but we'll see how it goes from there.
Which is the bigger problem right now? Not enough players for the games or not enough games for the players?
Post by: Vector on August 30, 2010, 01:53:18 pm
Post by: webadict on August 30, 2010, 01:55:16 pm
Not enough games for the players. We have no games open right now, and most of the stuff we open up flash-fills.I have two games I can run, but the second needs more planning. But, Third Party 2 is open.
Post by: Mephansteras on August 30, 2010, 01:56:19 pm
Supernatural 2 is pretty much done, since we're down to 3 players. I can open up Wizard Duel 4 for sign-ups this week if people want.
Post by: Vector on August 30, 2010, 01:57:43 pm
Not enough games for the players. We have no games open right now, and most of the stuff we open up flash-fills.I have two games I can run, but the second needs more planning. But, Third Party 2 is open.
I'll add Third Party 2 to the sign-up list.
Supernatural 2 is pretty much done, since we're down to 3 players. I can open up Wizard Duel 4 for sign-ups this week if people want.
Yeah, you should do this. Thanks, guys. I'll open the thread for the unflavored near-mountainous today, while I'm working on the Archive.
Post by: CobaltKobold on August 30, 2010, 05:21:33 pm
He did?! Dammit... I miss him too much. Him and his misspellings (I SWARE I'll get you!) and the silly cat jokes. And the maid. And the weird flavor, and the CRAZY games...
I shall just have to make up for his absence :I
Org would never be picked. :I:3
OR WOULD HE.
When to run IMBMMBMM II is a question.
Not now though.
Post by: Vector on August 30, 2010, 05:45:03 pm
When to run IMBMMBMM II is a question.
Not now though.
Yeah, I'd love to get a bastard mod in once we've turned over a couple more crops of newbies. This thing is getting up and running pretty darned well, but it's going to need a touch more time to be really oiled and happy.
Post by: CobaltKobold on August 30, 2010, 05:52:30 pm
Post by: Vector on August 30, 2010, 05:53:37 pm
I want to run it so people can figure it out so I can reveal it so people can marvel at it, but I don't feel up to it.
Ohhh, I see. Well, whenever you're ready, I'm seriously looking forward to it.
Post by: CobaltKobold on August 30, 2010, 05:56:48 pm
I'm seriously looking forward to it.You have made that abundantly clear. ;D
Post by: Vector on August 30, 2010, 06:00:46 pm
I'm seriously looking forward to it.You have made that abundantly clear. ;D
Well then I'll just have to MAKE IT CLEARER until it is echoing from the heavens in a completely non-creepy way but still focused so that you can hear me whispering in your ear in your house while you waste time.
...
Less caffeine. Definitely less caffeine.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 30, 2010, 11:13:42 pm
Post by: Scatterbrain on September 03, 2010, 01:18:10 pm
edit: third party just filled up, but i'm still curious :>
Post by: Vector on September 03, 2010, 01:36:13 pm
vector, when is your near-mountainous happening? cos i kinda want to 'in' for 3rd party mafia, but if yours is gonna start any time soon then playing in 3 games at once will be too much for me.
Not any time soon. I'm in 4 or 5 games or something, need to annotate 200 more pages of post-modernist literature by tomorrow, and am generally wigging out. Plus I have a lot of movies to watch and books to read, and I need to fill out my college re-application forms... >_>
tl;dr: In a couple weeks.
Also, 3rd party still has a spot open. Go join! Quick! Shoo!
Post by: Eduren on September 03, 2010, 03:05:50 pm
Post by: JoshuaFH on September 03, 2010, 03:10:16 pm
vector, when is your near-mountainous happening? cos i kinda want to 'in' for 3rd party mafia, but if yours is gonna start any time soon then playing in 3 games at once will be too much for me.
Not any time soon. I'm in 4 or 5 games or something, need to annotate 200 more pages of post-modernist literature by tomorrow, and am generally wigging out. Plus I have a lot of movies to watch and books to read, and I need to fill out my college re-application forms... >_>
tl;dr: In a couple weeks.
Also, 3rd party still has a spot open. Go join! Quick! Shoo!
Don't burn yourself Vester, because geeze.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 03, 2010, 03:14:37 pm
Post by: JoshuaFH on September 03, 2010, 03:18:02 pm
Post by: Eduren on September 03, 2010, 03:18:28 pm
Vector wasn't Vester the last time I checked :IHow can you know? Have you met either in person?
Post by: ToonyMan on September 03, 2010, 03:24:24 pm
Post by: Vector on September 03, 2010, 04:19:12 pm
Don't burn yourself Vester, because geeze.
I'm not burning myself out, actually... this is pretty much half-capacity for what I usually try to do ^_^;; Ramping up into full steam power!
Post by: webadict on September 03, 2010, 04:21:12 pm
Umm... He was talking to Vester.Don't burn yourself Vester, because geeze.
I'm not burning myself out, actually... this is pretty much half-capacity for what I usually try to do ^_^;; Ramping up into full steam power!
Post by: Vector on September 03, 2010, 04:28:23 pm
Post by: webadict on September 03, 2010, 04:39:34 pm
Goddammit! I always make that mistake.Understandable. Sometimes people spell my name WUBA.
Post by: Org on September 03, 2010, 05:36:35 pm
I bet your family calls you WUBA.Goddammit! I always make that mistake.Understandable. Sometimes people spell my name WUBA.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 03, 2010, 05:38:29 pm
K I S S I N G
Post by: JoshuaFH on September 03, 2010, 05:42:28 pm
I bet your family calls you WUBA.Goddammit! I always make that mistake.Understandable. Sometimes people spell my name WUBA.
Who's a good Wuba? YOU ARE! YOU'RE A GOOD WUBA!
Post by: webadict on September 03, 2010, 05:44:46 pm
This is slightly better than the Grover song.I bet your family calls you WUBA.Goddammit! I always make that mistake.Understandable. Sometimes people spell my name WUBA.
Who's a good Wuba? YOU ARE! YOU'RE A GOOD WUBA!
Post by: RedWarrior0 on September 03, 2010, 06:51:56 pm
Post by: Zai on September 03, 2010, 07:21:59 pm
When do you guys think we'll need another game? Cuz I am ready to open signups for BYOSB any time.What's SB stand for?
Post by: Lonewolf I on September 03, 2010, 07:22:23 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on September 03, 2010, 07:30:44 pm
Comon, you know you want to.
Post by: Eduren on September 03, 2010, 07:52:49 pm
Scum Buddies. It's the idea that I had a while ago. For now, it will be mountainous, but that may change if the gametype is likable.When do you guys think we'll need another game? Cuz I am ready to open signups for BYOSB any time.What's SB stand for?
Does anybody think we need a game in signups soon?
Post by: Zai on September 03, 2010, 08:20:12 pm
Start it Day 2 of BYOT or something.
Post by: Vector on September 03, 2010, 10:01:39 pm
Nothing starts until we have rather fewer than that.
Post by: webadict on September 09, 2010, 03:41:27 pm
Post by: Eduren on September 09, 2010, 03:50:42 pm
Post by: Zai on September 09, 2010, 04:33:24 pm
Also. BYOSB is a terrible name for that. Too similar to BYOR and BYOT. Go with Pick Your Scum Buddies (PYSB) or something.
Post by: Scatterbrain on September 09, 2010, 04:34:31 pm
Post by: webadict on September 09, 2010, 05:38:06 pm
But...what about the Mountainous BYOSB game?I started the name, so I'll sue!
Also. BYOSB is a terrible name for that. Too similar to BYOR and BYOT. Go with Pick Your Scum Buddies (PYSB) or something.
Post by: Eduren on September 09, 2010, 05:57:26 pm
But...what about the Mountainous BYOSB game?I don't really care what the name is. If people prefer PYSB, then we'll go with that.
Also. BYOSB is a terrible name for that. Too similar to BYOR and BYOT. Go with Pick Your Scum Buddies (PYSB) or something.
And I can start it whenever, I'm just waiting for an opening. If Webby wants to cut in line, that's fine by me.
Post by: webadict on September 09, 2010, 06:03:50 pm
There's no open games, so I figured I'd start one. It gives hope to the peasantry.But...what about the Mountainous BYOSB game?I don't really care what the name is. If people prefer PYSB, then we'll go with that.
Also. BYOSB is a terrible name for that. Too similar to BYOR and BYOT. Go with Pick Your Scum Buddies (PYSB) or something.
And I can start it whenever, I'm just waiting for an opening. If Webby wants to cut in line, that's fine by me.
Post by: JanusTwoface on September 09, 2010, 06:38:42 pm
Post by: Vector on September 09, 2010, 06:40:07 pm
Post by: Zai on September 09, 2010, 06:46:07 pm
Would people be interested in my idea for a Sorcerer's Apprentice Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=44314.msg1525821#msg1525821)?It's kind of complicated for my tastes, but it sounds interesting. I'd probably read but not play it.
Post by: Eduren on September 09, 2010, 07:14:28 pm
Post by: Eduren on September 09, 2010, 10:25:24 pm
What if there was a game that allowed editing of posts? And I mean that no matter what, the edit notification never came up.
Sitting here trying to wrap my head around how that would change things.
Post by: Zai on September 09, 2010, 10:35:09 pm
Woah, I just had a really insane idea that, unfortunately, isn't possible with these forum settings.It would be like playing RL Mafia with a group of people who have trouble remembering things (i.e. a group made up of clones of me). None of the posts could be trusted.
What if there was a game that allowed editing of posts? And I mean that no matter what, the edit notification never came up.
Sitting here trying to wrap my head around how that would change things.
None of them.
Post by: Org on September 09, 2010, 10:36:26 pm
Post by: Eduren on September 09, 2010, 10:40:46 pm
"He intentionally mis-quoted me guys!"
"No I didn't, he edited his post to make it look like I mis-quoted him!"
"No, he mis-quoted me to make it look like I edited!"
Of course taking screenshots of the thread would be disallowed.
I think Pandar proposed a similiar idea.Well screw him then, I'm stealing it.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 09, 2010, 10:53:44 pm
It would be difficult.
Post by: Lonewolf I on September 09, 2010, 11:10:24 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on September 10, 2010, 10:23:45 pm
Post by: Zai on September 13, 2010, 02:12:18 am
Post by: Vector on September 13, 2010, 02:15:59 am
I have been thinking about running a game called "Zai the Bastard Mafia". As planned now, it is a small game that would work with as few as 5 players, but would probably work best with 7. If I were to run it in a month or so, who would be interested in playing?
Moi.
Post by: Zai on September 13, 2010, 02:49:15 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 13, 2010, 03:16:46 am
Post by: Zai on September 13, 2010, 04:21:39 am
Ruling myself out before someone says I should join. As I've said before, I'm not much of one for Bastard Mods any more.Eh, it's not a thinking-heavy BM like some. It's just...eh...different from a regular Mafia game. You should probably still play it like you would a regular game; the setup is just different.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 13, 2010, 04:24:08 am
Post by: Zai on September 13, 2010, 04:27:16 am
Well, as long as we KNOW our win condition I'll consider it, I guess.Yeah, you'd know your win conditions. Closed setup, though.
Post by: Toaster on September 13, 2010, 10:11:02 am
Post by: Mephansteras on September 13, 2010, 12:22:38 pm
Post by: Toaster on September 13, 2010, 12:24:44 pm
Post by: Scatterbrain on September 13, 2010, 12:26:15 pm
Post by: Toaster on September 13, 2010, 12:30:40 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on September 13, 2010, 12:32:39 pm
Post by: Org on September 14, 2010, 09:00:36 pm
Post by: Zai on September 15, 2010, 05:45:09 pm
Can I put BSER in sign ups?What'd that stand for, again?
Post by: Org on September 15, 2010, 05:47:33 pm
Post by: Vector on September 15, 2010, 05:54:04 pm
Post by: Org on September 15, 2010, 06:14:34 pm
Post by: Vector on September 15, 2010, 06:15:01 pm
Whyyyyyyy
Too many games running right now.
Post by: Org on September 15, 2010, 06:19:26 pm
Post by: webadict on September 15, 2010, 06:25:09 pm
Sign ups?I see little problem with sign-ups...
I've got two nearing their end, so that's fine with me.
Post by: Vector on September 15, 2010, 06:25:53 pm
Sign ups?
Yeah, okay.
Post by: Vector on September 18, 2010, 09:45:41 pm
We need more mountainous games. Non-gimmicky ones (by which I mean "I'm not talking about the two-scumteam model"). I realized that my town game has become pretty danged bad, and I think a lot of players here would benefit from something post-Beginner's mafia rounds. Much like we always have a BM and a Meph game running, I think it might be a good idea to have a flavorless Mountainous going most of the time.
So.
Who's gonna open one? I can take the first shot, but if there's someone dying to mod something easy, then this is a great opportunity.
Post by: webadict on September 18, 2010, 11:06:34 pm
It might be easy, but I have no heart for it.
Post by: Eduren on September 18, 2010, 11:19:54 pm
Post by: Vector on September 18, 2010, 11:25:07 pm
Post by: Eduren on September 18, 2010, 11:29:32 pm
Post by: Vector on September 18, 2010, 11:33:50 pm
Post by: Eduren on September 18, 2010, 11:38:28 pm
Post by: webadict on September 19, 2010, 09:38:25 pm
I'll wait then.Vote Mafia's over, so it's kinda a free spot.
Kinda. I mean, if you fill up, then have at, but there's about 6 games open now (1 in sign-up), so starting sign-ups for something like that might definitely work well.
Post by: Toaster on September 19, 2010, 11:37:26 pm
Post by: Org on September 20, 2010, 03:07:56 pm
Right now.
It will be amazing.
Post by: Zai on September 23, 2010, 06:59:51 pm
Post by: Org on September 23, 2010, 07:05:08 pm
Post by: webadict on September 23, 2010, 07:19:11 pm
Would it be okay for me to start sign-ups for my 7-player Semi-Bastard Mod (ZaiTheBastard Mafia or else Zai the Bastard Mafia) game late next week?Should be fine.
Post by: Vector on September 23, 2010, 10:52:28 pm
Would it be okay for me to start sign-ups for my 7-player Semi-Bastard Mod (ZaiTheBastard Mafia or else Zai the Bastard Mafia) game late next week?
Go for it. It's good to let a few games slow-fill... means that the forum is self-correcting.
Clearly I should have spent less time in economics courses.
Post by: webadict on September 24, 2010, 06:50:52 am
Supply creates its own demand.Would it be okay for me to start sign-ups for my 7-player Semi-Bastard Mod (ZaiTheBastard Mafia or else Zai the Bastard Mafia) game late next week?
Go for it. It's good to let a few games slow-fill... means that the forum is self-correcting.
Clearly I should have spent less time in economics courses.
Post by: SirBayer on September 24, 2010, 11:10:09 am
We need another Lynch Webadict Now.
There's totally room for that, right?
Post by: webadict on September 24, 2010, 11:41:17 am
Post by: ToonyMan on September 24, 2010, 12:46:47 pm
I should seriously get a data sheet going on my wins and loses...
Post by: Org on September 24, 2010, 02:28:37 pm
Post by: webadict on September 24, 2010, 02:33:24 pm
I think Ill run that after BSER, unless I dont get players for another week.What if...
WEBADICT?!?
ran KWN?!?!?
Post by: Org on September 24, 2010, 02:35:11 pm
What.I think Ill run that after BSER, unless I dont get players for another week.What if...
WEBADICT?!?
ran KWN?!?!?
Post by: webadict on September 24, 2010, 02:41:21 pm
I'm sorry. I was thinking on a tangent.What.I think Ill run that after BSER, unless I dont get players for another week.What if...
WEBADICT?!?
ran KWN?!?!?
Post by: Zai on September 24, 2010, 04:15:46 pm
What if...That is preposterous!
WEBADICT?!?
ran KWN?!?!?
And Org was talking about MSPA Mafia, not KWN.
Post by: webadict on September 24, 2010, 04:44:34 pm
Hence why my thinking was on a tangent.What if...That is preposterous!
WEBADICT?!?
ran KWN?!?!?
And Org was talking about MSPA Mafia, not KWN.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on September 27, 2010, 12:40:44 am
I approve. Mindfuck is good.I think Ill run that after BSER, unless I dont get players for another week.What if...
WEBADICT?!?
ran KWN?!?!?
Post by: webadict on September 27, 2010, 07:26:19 am
I just realized I can make this entirely epic...I approve. Mindfuck is good.I think Ill run that after BSER, unless I dont get players for another week.What if...
WEBADICT?!?
ran KWN?!?!?
So... very... epic... Hehehehe
Post by: webadict on September 27, 2010, 04:53:00 pm
Post by: Org on September 27, 2010, 04:54:05 pm
Post by: webadict on September 27, 2010, 05:00:21 pm
Me, I guess?Can you write long descriptions?
Post by: Vector on September 27, 2010, 05:00:51 pm
In fact, it's so epic that I need a co-mod that can... err... write for me. Or at least help. Of course, don't be a co-mod if you want to play (Which means you, Vector. You'll want to play because this will be more or less a bastard mod.)
:D
YES. I am playing. Thank you ~
Post by: ToonyMan on September 27, 2010, 05:01:14 pm
Post by: webadict on September 27, 2010, 05:11:08 pm
I can co-write. Hit me.Are you sure?!? There is no take backs once you agree. And there might be an outstanding amount of writing, depending on how this is planned out.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 27, 2010, 05:12:59 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 27, 2010, 06:35:08 pm
Post by: webadict on September 27, 2010, 06:36:56 pm
I'll write if Toony wants to play. Bastard Mods frustrate me a lot of the time, at least if I don't know my own wincon. And I need to write moar anyway.Too late. And as far as we can tell, it's only semi-bastard.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 28, 2010, 01:38:47 pm
Post by: webadict on September 28, 2010, 07:36:35 pm
Game is perfect.Almost. I found a problem.
Post by: Spade on September 28, 2010, 07:37:34 pm
Oh dear.Game is perfect.Almost. I found a problem.
Post by: Vector on September 30, 2010, 05:53:25 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on September 30, 2010, 06:04:32 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on September 30, 2010, 07:42:52 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 30, 2010, 08:04:59 pm
... Well, I guess BYOT is dead =/
SHUSH SHUSH
I'M GETTING THERE
Post by: Solifuge on September 30, 2010, 10:21:41 pm
Also Pandar, you'd best stop taking your essai du jour and get moving on BYOT. I took out a huge loan to bet on that game, and I need to recoup my investment. The loansharks are hounding after me, man.
Post by: Vector on September 30, 2010, 10:51:22 pm
To follow up on a note from Beginners XVI (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=66479.msg1606278#msg1606278), I think we should enact a Statutory Law that prevents Webadict from playing Mafia with Beginners. Seriously, they're not experienced enough to know what they were consenting to when they joined the game. It's just.... wrong.
... Yeah, but on the other hand I think it's a really good learning experience for everyone. Except maybe Webadict. Isn't it better to have Webadict in than no one?
Also Pandar, you'd best stop taking your essai du jour and get moving on BYOT. I took out a huge loan to bet on that game, and I need to recoup my investment. The loansharks are hounding after me, man.
Snerk.
Post by: Solifuge on September 30, 2010, 11:00:21 pm
Post by: webadict on October 01, 2010, 05:48:40 am
Post by: Vector on October 01, 2010, 05:39:39 pm
This subforum is currently miserable. Games are dying and inactive. We have only one game in signups, and it's almost full. A lot of our regulars are missing. The queue is empty. No one is running off to mod.
So. What are we going to run? What do people want to play? In a phrase, how do you think we should approach this situation?
Let me say in advance that I will join almost anything at this point, just to bring attendance up again. I don't care if the mod is inexperienced, as long as they've played a couple games. There have been worse catastrophes than inexperienced mods.
Post by: ToonyMan on October 01, 2010, 05:41:27 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on October 01, 2010, 05:43:06 pm
Post by: Vector on October 01, 2010, 05:44:05 pm
Vector: Even me? :o
Even you what? Modding, or invisible?
Once Webadict's new game starts it will be awesome.
It'd better be, because I want to play it :I
Post by: RedWarrior0 on October 01, 2010, 05:48:03 pm
EDIT (OMG this feels so wierd): How about Chill Mafia? A fairly lax game, etc, etc.
Post by: webadict on October 01, 2010, 05:54:36 pm
Post by: Eduren on October 01, 2010, 07:38:25 pm
Blorgh.If we really need games, I can throw a few up there.
This subforum is currently miserable. Games are dying and inactive. We have only one game in signups, and it's almost full. A lot of our regulars are missing. The queue is empty. No one is running off to mod.
So. What are we going to run? What do people want to play? In a phrase, how do you think we should approach this situation?
Let me say in advance that I will join almost anything at this point, just to bring attendance up again. I don't care if the mod is inexperienced, as long as they've played a couple games. There have been worse catastrophes than inexperienced mods.
But it seems like we have a lack of reliable players to me. More games isn't going to fix that.
I think that whats really hit us is the transition to a new school year. I don't remember how we survived them in the past, but it seems to have thrown a wrench into the subreddit's operation (not that it was smooth going in the first place :P).
Post by: Mr.Person on October 01, 2010, 09:44:13 pm
Post by: webadict on October 01, 2010, 09:54:52 pm
I had this idea for a game where I'd make a bunch of accounts and assign them to all the players. Sign-ups would be via PM instead of public posting. That way, you'd have no idea who each player actually is.Say WHA?!?!
Post by: Org on October 01, 2010, 09:56:25 pm
EH.
Post by: ToonyMan on October 01, 2010, 10:12:42 pm
Post by: Eduren on October 01, 2010, 10:14:59 pm
I had this idea for a game where I'd make a bunch of accounts and assign them to all the players. Sign-ups would be via PM instead of public posting. That way, you'd have no idea who each player actually is.I once tried figuring out a way to make Anonymous Mafia work, but I think I ran across a few stumbling blocks.
If you can make it work I'd definitely be interested in playing.
Then Toady bans us all.How about we just clear it with him first? As long as the Mod changes all the passwords once the game is finished, then there would be no worries of abuse.
Post by: Zai on October 01, 2010, 11:06:39 pm
I've pretty much gotten all the initial stuff written out and ready to start as soon as I have enough players.
[EDIT:] MAYBE A PROBLEM. TF2 Polycount Pack update.
Post by: Mr.Person on October 02, 2010, 05:21:23 am
Post by: Mindmaker on October 02, 2010, 07:21:22 am
The only experience I'm having with mafia is playing the werewolf version of it IRL a bit some years ago, but I don't really remember much of it.
If there is a good tutorial or if there is willing to fill me in on the basics, I'd be happy to learn.
Post by: webadict on October 02, 2010, 09:03:58 am
What, do you guys take me for a fool? Yes? Fine, but I would of shot a PM off to Toady well in advance. The stumbling blocks are more "compare usage times to figure everyone out", "how the hell am I supposed to find tells" and a general lack of interest in mafia, much less one that's harder and more complex than normal.I won't in.
Or will I?
But yeah, we'd need more interest in mafia first.
Post by: Leafsnail on October 02, 2010, 10:43:29 am
Or something like that.
Post by: Spade on October 02, 2010, 11:01:10 am
Sig a link to the forum? :P
Post by: webadict on October 02, 2010, 11:02:07 am
So what do we do to get more interest in mafia?Do I need to beat you at Liar's Dice again?
Sig a link to the forum? :P
Post by: Spade on October 02, 2010, 11:02:53 am
You already beat me again. You didn't even have to go on.So what do we do to get more interest in mafia?Do I need to beat you at Liar's Dice again?
Sig a link to the forum? :P
Post by: Eduren on October 02, 2010, 11:07:04 am
If you're not bothered in having newbies in your ranks, I might join.Mafia is a game that you learn really really fast if you are just thrown into a game. I would suggest joining the next Beginners Mafia (there should be a new one in a few weeks) where you can play with other newbies.
The only experience I'm having with mafia is playing the werewolf version of it IRL a bit some years ago, but I don't really remember much of it.
If there is a good tutorial or if there is willing to fill me in on the basics, I'd be happy to learn.
Post by: Ottofar on October 02, 2010, 11:57:43 am
Post by: webadict on October 02, 2010, 12:02:39 pm
I was thinking about running a 5-player vengeful mafia.We could do that. I might have to avoid it because Rule 1 would be lynch Webadict.
But, any other small number games we got?
Post by: Spade on October 02, 2010, 12:04:51 pm
Pure scumhunt.
Post by: webadict on October 02, 2010, 12:40:21 pm
3 player mafia.SS3 and Dethy.
Pure scumhunt.
Post by: Mr.Person on October 02, 2010, 01:03:37 pm
So what do we do to get more interest in mafia?
Sig a link to the forum? :P
I believe that's how I found the forum, a link to Paranormal.
Post by: webadict on October 02, 2010, 01:16:54 pm
The first one?So what do we do to get more interest in mafia?
Sig a link to the forum? :P
I believe that's how I found the forum, a link to Paranormal.
Post by: Mr.Person on October 02, 2010, 01:24:17 pm
Post by: webadict on October 02, 2010, 01:35:36 pm
I don't know.Well, I'll just assume that I was the reason you're here then.
Post by: Zai on October 02, 2010, 01:37:17 pm
wutI don't know.Well, I'll just assume that I was the reason you're here then.
Post by: webadict on October 02, 2010, 01:39:15 pm
Post by: Spade on October 02, 2010, 01:40:52 pm
paranormals, kingmaker, and one of the DF mafias(The one with the sly elf) seem to be really awesome games to me.
Post by: Zai on October 02, 2010, 01:42:43 pm
Some of these older mafias look like they were really fun.All of the games were fun.
All of them.
Post by: webadict on October 02, 2010, 01:47:12 pm
Some of these older mafias look like they were really fun.We knew how to make a Mafia game back then.
paranormals, kingmaker, and one of the DF mafias(The one with the sly elf) seem to be really awesome games to me.
I guess technically, we still do, but it sounds cooler if it's said like that.
Post by: JanusTwoface on October 02, 2010, 02:27:27 pm
Blorgh.
This subforum is currently miserable. Games are dying and inactive. We have only one game in signups, and it's almost full. A lot of our regulars are missing. The queue is empty. No one is running off to mod.
So. What are we going to run? What do people want to play? In a phrase, how do you think we should approach this situation?
Let me say in advance that I will join almost anything at this point, just to bring attendance up again. I don't care if the mod is inexperienced, as long as they've played a couple games. There have been worse catastrophes than inexperienced mods.
The problem isn't that we don't have enough games, the problem is that too many people are signing up for games and not bothering to play them. The main reason I haven't bothered to actually put Sorcerer's Apprentice into sign-ups is that I don't know if there are enough active people left to make it interesting.
:(
Post by: ToonyMan on October 02, 2010, 03:19:52 pm
Post by: Zathras on October 02, 2010, 03:31:21 pm
The problem isn't that we don't have enough games, the problem is that too many people are signing up for games and not bothering to play them.
This is very true. A lurky game really detracts from the fun. But it's not the only problem. Not to point fingers or anything, but it's hard to keep interest in a game if it takes a week and a half to process night actions, Pandar, or even as little (!) as four or five days, Web. This only encourages people to be lurkier, and diminishes your standing to be able to then tell them not to lurk. Thus people lurk, making for fewer active games, and those become less fun.
I don't know how to fix this, but I'm sure actually running with the games and players we do have would be a good step. For other things, actually modkilling people for lurking will either make at least some games active, euthanize others faster, and possibly create a culture where all, even new players, grow accustomed to either show up or be lynched or modkilled. There are a lot of fun games ten or fifteen active people can have, and that very activity will generate a trickle of new players wandering through. The first time they are lynched or modkilled for lurking, they'll understand that to join that group, they have to be active.
Just sayin'. Yes, it sucks, but you partly created it with pavlovian responses. It may be necessary to train the dog to press the other button.
But never mind. Carry on. Navel-gazing is almost as fun.
Post by: JanusTwoface on October 02, 2010, 03:39:38 pm
Post by: Zathras on October 02, 2010, 03:46:23 pm
Oh, I completely agree with you. My favorite mod is Mephansteras for precisely that reason. You'll always know when the deadlines are (close enough anyways) and he gets the days up quickly. Pretty much the only games I'm playing in nowadays.
Yeah... I actually came here first hoping to join a paranormal or supernatural game, but just my luck, it was full back then, and then he launched that wizard duel thing with which I was utterly unfamiliar, so I didn't want to join it. I can't wait for it to be over so I can hopefully join in some alien-killing-dopp fun.
Props to Meph... I hope to play a game of yours soon. But the suggestion of modkilling lurkers stands for you too.
Post by: Zai on October 02, 2010, 04:09:06 pm
It will be closed setup, but have little actual bastard-modding. So the name is actually a bit of a misnomer.
And I will insist on clear deadlines (if I say the Night is 24 hours, it's 24 fucking hours), so no worries there.
Post by: Spade on October 02, 2010, 04:15:07 pm
I think I can actually get my 7-player game (ZaiTheBastard Mafia) into sign-ups tonight. IS THIS GOOD?Would I be welcome? :-\
It will be closed setup, but have little actual bastard-modding. So the name is actually a bit of a misnomer.
And I will insist on clear deadlines (if I say the Night is 24 hours, it's 24 fucking hours), so no worries there.
Post by: Zai on October 02, 2010, 04:17:12 pm
Have you played a game of Mafia (variant or otherwise) before?I think I can actually get my 7-player game (ZaiTheBastard Mafia) into sign-ups tonight. IS THIS GOOD?Would I be welcome? :-\
It will be closed setup, but have little actual bastard-modding. So the name is actually a bit of a misnomer.
And I will insist on clear deadlines (if I say the Night is 24 hours, it's 24 fucking hours), so no worries there.
Post by: Spade on October 02, 2010, 04:25:54 pm
I'm in the BM and have played alot of epic mafia. If that counts.Have you played a game of Mafia (variant or otherwise) before?I think I can actually get my 7-player game (ZaiTheBastard Mafia) into sign-ups tonight. IS THIS GOOD?Would I be welcome? :-\
It will be closed setup, but have little actual bastard-modding. So the name is actually a bit of a misnomer.
And I will insist on clear deadlines (if I say the Night is 24 hours, it's 24 fucking hours), so no worries there.
Post by: webadict on October 02, 2010, 04:29:42 pm
To be fair, they show up and post every once in a while. I think there needs to be a definitive list of requirements for modkilling.Oh, I completely agree with you. My favorite mod is Mephansteras for precisely that reason. You'll always know when the deadlines are (close enough anyways) and he gets the days up quickly. Pretty much the only games I'm playing in nowadays.
Yeah... I actually came here first hoping to join a paranormal or supernatural game, but just my luck, it was full back then, and then he launched that wizard duel thing with which I was utterly unfamiliar, so I didn't want to join it. I can't wait for it to be over so I can hopefully join in some alien-killing-dopp fun.
Props to Meph... I hope to play a game of yours soon. But the suggestion of modkilling lurkers stands for you too.
Post by: Zai on October 02, 2010, 04:30:48 pm
Then yeah, you should be fine.I'm in the BM and have played alot of epic mafia. If that counts.Have you played a game of Mafia (variant or otherwise) before?I think I can actually get my 7-player game (ZaiTheBastard Mafia) into sign-ups tonight. IS THIS GOOD?Would I be welcome? :-\
It will be closed setup, but have little actual bastard-modding. So the name is actually a bit of a misnomer.
And I will insist on clear deadlines (if I say the Night is 24 hours, it's 24 fucking hours), so no worries there.
Post by: Spade on October 02, 2010, 04:36:31 pm
Post by: Zai on October 02, 2010, 04:40:35 pm
Bastard is when we don't know all the rules, right?It varies from game to game, but typically yes.
This is mostly just a closed setup game; you won't know any roles beside your own.
Post by: Pandarsenic on October 02, 2010, 06:24:16 pm
Processing BYOT Night sometime today - as in before I next go to sleep.
Also, I have a few things to say about activity but they concern active games.
Post by: Zai on October 02, 2010, 08:28:28 pm
I shall refrain from starting a thread for it until I am ready to host it.
Post by: Pandarsenic on October 03, 2010, 09:05:20 am
Processing BYOT Night sometime today - as in before I next go to sleep.
I lied, give it another day. <_<;
Post by: Zai on October 03, 2010, 11:39:41 am
Just kill it already. Put it out of its misery. It's been in and out of a coma for too long.Processing BYOT Night sometime today - as in before I next go to sleep.
I lied, give it another day. <_<;
Post by: Pandarsenic on October 03, 2010, 04:43:10 pm
Post by: Scatterbrain on October 04, 2010, 06:05:08 am
I'll do it after the TF2 Highlander match I have today, assuming it doesn't run until I go to dinner.
ooh, nice. you in the etf2l league?
Post by: ToonyMan on October 04, 2010, 01:46:30 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on October 05, 2010, 12:18:22 am
I'll do it after the TF2 Highlander match I have today, assuming it doesn't run until I go to dinner.
ooh, nice. you in the etf2l league?
Yep. Team Solidus. We rolled our first match, realized our server configs were fucked up, fixed them, and rolled again.
Also RUSSIAN HOMEWORK BLURGH
I AM A MIDTERM ROAWR
Post by: Archangel on October 05, 2010, 02:23:58 am
Post by: webadict on October 05, 2010, 08:24:51 am
Post by: Scatterbrain on October 05, 2010, 08:29:27 am
i would send you guys a challenge or something, but with you in the US and us in the EU the ping difference would pretty much kill it. keep rootin' for the specialattack community team tho! our total lack of practice will be... our strength? something like that.
Post by: webadict on October 05, 2010, 01:56:01 pm
Thank goodness for failed internets.
Post by: Solifuge on October 05, 2010, 02:23:22 pm
Mostly so I don't feel so out of place. ._.
Post by: Mr.Person on October 05, 2010, 03:46:54 pm
I'm disappointed by the lack of duplicity we're seeing in Mafia these days. We need games that encourage more sneaky, backstabbing, lying bastards.
Mostly so I don't feel so out of place. ._.
If you have an ideas of how to foster this, go right ahead.
The biggest is just simply not being able to trust another player 100%, ever. The biggest violator of this is the mafia, but cults, masons, and certain cops can all violate this.
Post by: ToonyMan on October 05, 2010, 03:56:55 pm
Post by: Spade on October 05, 2010, 04:16:09 pm
I do have a question though:
When a cop reports, what do they get? Do they find out that person's exact role, or just if they're village/mafia sided?
I'm pretty sure it's just their alignment, but I just wanted to make sure.
Post by: webadict on October 05, 2010, 04:27:13 pm
Post by: Org on October 05, 2010, 04:44:36 pm
Post by: Spade on October 05, 2010, 04:53:50 pm
Webadict needs to run DF Mafia.This.
That was probably the most interesting one I read.
Post by: webadict on October 05, 2010, 05:55:29 pm
Post by: Eduren on October 05, 2010, 06:29:45 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 05, 2010, 10:19:38 pm
I was thinking I would come back.
So it seems like there are no games in sign ups? Do you need a game?
Because... well...
I know everyone hates my games. But I will update in a timely manner maybe even.
And I wanted to run another Cybrid mafia.
7 players this time.
I think I can make it work. And it will be a lot less bastardy with all the kinks out now.
Post by: ToonyMan on October 05, 2010, 10:22:02 pm
That was awesome.
Post by: webadict on October 05, 2010, 10:56:25 pm
Post by: Ottofar on October 06, 2010, 08:53:19 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 06, 2010, 02:05:15 pm
Off to thread creation.
Post by: Spade on October 06, 2010, 02:50:42 pm
I have a 12-player open setup game in my head, but I'm not sure if I could pull it off.
What do you guys think? Would you need to see the roles to be able to tell?
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 06, 2010, 03:19:07 pm
Also, cybrid mafia is up.
Post by: JanusTwoface on October 06, 2010, 03:23:29 pm
Do you guys think if I was to run a game around now it would get any players? Do you think I'm too new to mafia to make one?
I have a 12-player open setup game in my head, but I'm not sure if I could pull it off.
What do you guys think? Would you need to see the roles to be able to tell?
Read one of the latest Paranormal games. Can you do that (from a modding standpoint)?
If so, go for it!
I'm not sure how you'll do so far as active players, but I could be convinced to play if you have an interesting setup and promise to be a good mod.
Post by: Eduren on October 06, 2010, 03:38:05 pm
Post by: Spade on October 06, 2010, 03:46:21 pm
I wasn't planning on making it as complicated as a Paranormal game. Most of the roles would be like roles that already exist, but just have different names. Do you think me listing my ideas here would help?Do you guys think if I was to run a game around now it would get any players? Do you think I'm too new to mafia to make one?
I have a 12-player open setup game in my head, but I'm not sure if I could pull it off.
What do you guys think? Would you need to see the roles to be able to tell?
Read one of the latest Paranormal games. Can you do that (from a modding standpoint)?
If so, go for it!
I'm not sure how you'll do so far as active players, but I could be convinced to play if you have an interesting setup and promise to be a good mod.
Post by: JanusTwoface on October 06, 2010, 03:50:26 pm
I wasn't planning on making it as complicated as a Paranormal game. Most of the roles would be like roles that already exist, but just have different names. Do you think me listing my ideas here would help?Do you guys think if I was to run a game around now it would get any players? Do you think I'm too new to mafia to make one?
I have a 12-player open setup game in my head, but I'm not sure if I could pull it off.
What do you guys think? Would you need to see the roles to be able to tell?
Read one of the latest Paranormal games. Can you do that (from a modding standpoint)?
If so, go for it!
I'm not sure how you'll do so far as active players, but I could be convinced to play if you have an interesting setup and promise to be a good mod.
Yes. At the very least, you can get some feedback. If you want to run a closed setup game, don't, but then you should advertise it as such and still get someone to look over your roles. A second set of eyes never hurts.
Although I didn't mean that it had to be nearly as complicated as Paranormal. I meant post regular vote counts, let us know a time when the days/nights are scheduled to end (don't run a hammer game, it won't go well), and include some flavor (not necessary, but generally fun to read).
Post by: Mephansteras on October 06, 2010, 03:51:04 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 06, 2010, 04:08:36 pm
Post by: Spade on October 06, 2010, 04:30:40 pm
Spoiler: roles. (click to show/hide)
I'm guessing the correct number of mafia for a 12 player game is three, right?
Does it look okay to anyone? :-\
Post by: Mr.Person on October 06, 2010, 05:46:43 pm
That's a really weak town, but I think it's ok. It's better than mountainous, so that's something.
Post by: Spade on October 06, 2010, 05:50:36 pm
Yeah, 3 mafia is pretty normal for 12 players.
That's a really weak town, but I think it's ok. It's better than mountainous, so that's something.
Wow, really? As I posted it I kind of thought it was town sided. :P
That's why I added the king/queen/jester stuff.
Post by: Leafsnail on October 06, 2010, 06:04:22 pm
Post by: Spade on October 06, 2010, 06:07:09 pm
Jester shouldn't target at all. Then the Queen gets 100% accurate results.That's what I had before, but then I realised that would be two cops getting accurate results.
Should I change it so the jester just has to be alive for the queen to get real results?
The royalty still wouldn't know whether they're the king or queen.
Post by: Zai on October 06, 2010, 06:10:15 pm
The royalty still wouldn't know whether they're the king or queen....
Post by: Spade on October 06, 2010, 06:13:52 pm
What? Don't you think 2 normal cops in a game is too much? If they knew which they were, they'd just report their report backwards.The royalty still wouldn't know whether they're the king or queen....
Or do you think the Queen should just lose their report power entirely?
Post by: Zai on October 06, 2010, 06:17:39 pm
I wasn't commenting on the mechanics behind it at all. I was commenting on the quote itself.What? Don't you think 2 normal cops in a game is too much? If they knew which they were, they'd just report their report backwards.The royalty still wouldn't know whether they're the king or queen....
Or do you think the Queen should just lose their report power entirely?
It's a little strange that a King wouldn't know if he was the King or Queen.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on October 06, 2010, 06:19:33 pm
A little bit of brain bleach and a sex change operation, and BAM!
Post by: Spade on October 06, 2010, 06:22:45 pm
It's dark. :-\
Post by: Leafsnail on October 06, 2010, 07:29:29 pm
Post by: Spade on October 06, 2010, 07:46:01 pm
I maintain that the jester should still do nothing though. It's much better to be insane all nights than sane at some times and insane at others.I guess so. Maybe I'll change it so the jester always appears guilty on reports.
EDIT: Oh wait wow I'm stupid. I actually forgot to include the role that this whole game was going to be based off of.
Replacing Jester with Gamemaster(GM)
GM: Votes count as two during the day. While alive, mafia has to outnumber the town in order to win.
Post by: Leafsnail on October 06, 2010, 08:33:30 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 06, 2010, 08:40:37 pm
Post by: Spade on October 06, 2010, 08:47:03 pm
Or should I wait a while?
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 06, 2010, 08:50:35 pm
Honestly though, I think it would be fine. Two games in sign-ups is pretty good, and yours is close enough to vanilla to a-okay at filling that niche.
Post by: JanusTwoface on October 06, 2010, 08:55:36 pm
Post by: Zai on October 06, 2010, 09:53:33 pm
Incidentally: we need a mafia game with intentionally bad flavour. We just do.I cans do if you tell me what you mean.
Post by: Spade on October 07, 2010, 05:16:15 am
I guess I'll call it 'Kingdom Mafia.' (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=67787.0)
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 07, 2010, 01:21:15 pm
Also, spade, put your signup spaces in the title.
Post by: Spade on October 07, 2010, 07:38:13 pm
Also, spade, put your signup spaces in the title.
Ok, done.
Thanks so much for the help guys! :D
Post by: Leafsnail on October 08, 2010, 11:44:15 am
Post by: webadict on October 08, 2010, 12:11:58 pm
ur a Twonei. Ur gole is 2 lynch the mafa.
Cop
U r a cop. U isnepcte people. U will get there alingmewnt
Doc
Docv: u make sure ppl don't die. Chose a person at night.
Just... SOUNDS like the best game ever...
Post by: Eduren on October 08, 2010, 12:24:18 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on October 08, 2010, 01:22:25 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on October 08, 2010, 04:17:48 pm
The flavor is that the spaceship is bieng ataked by ailens. The lights are sparking out of the air. They are inviseble and u knew they were coming but now it is to late to escape because everyone was surprised. It is to late. U have to fight them.
They are in the base and they are zombed demon ailens.
But you are actually the ailens and not the spaceship being atacked so it will actually be harder since you have already killed the humans but maybe sum of u think u are not the aliens but the humans so they have to be stopped.
Huh?
I have never seen you write this bad GlyphGryph...
Are you drunk?
Somehow this amuses me greatly... :D
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 08, 2010, 04:27:49 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on October 08, 2010, 04:36:00 pm
Post by: webadict on October 08, 2010, 06:00:33 pm
ur a Twonei. Ur gole is 2 lynch the mafa.
Cop
U r a cop. U isnepcte people. U will get there alingmewnt
Doc
Docv: u make sure ppl don't die. Chose a person at night.
Just... SOUNDS like the best game ever...
Post by: ToonyMan on October 08, 2010, 06:02:37 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 09, 2010, 10:09:41 am
Post by: Mr.Person on October 09, 2010, 05:53:21 pm
tonymn ded, he was a doktr
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 09, 2010, 09:10:53 pm
Also, I am not getting enough signups for cybrid so I might have to can it. :::(
Post by: ToonyMan on October 09, 2010, 09:13:14 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on October 09, 2010, 10:07:26 pm
MrPerson, you're new avatar fills me with bouts of cognitive dissonance. Is there any particular reason you could not have chosen a Person for your avatar? :P
Also, I am not getting enough signups for cybrid so I might have to can it. :::(
People are overated.
Post by: Leafsnail on October 10, 2010, 06:40:13 pm
Post by: webadict on October 10, 2010, 09:18:51 pm
Also, I'm making all this up.
Post by: Mr.Person on October 11, 2010, 02:55:01 am
Is there a reason why it's Vulpix, incidentally?
I was playing through Pokemon Mystery Dungeon (the source of the sprite) a few months ago when I noticed somebody posted the sprite as a reaction image on /v/. I thought it would make a good avatar and I needed to replace my old one, so I saved the picture.
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 11, 2010, 01:23:39 pm
Also, I am so sad at how dead these forums are. :*(
And where has vector gone, I was under the impression she would be around forevers
Post by: Mephansteras on October 11, 2010, 01:32:31 pm
Post by: webadict on October 11, 2010, 03:06:49 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on October 11, 2010, 03:37:11 pm
"Give me break miss! I had the best argument against the doppelganger scum!"
Post by: Eduren on October 11, 2010, 03:43:24 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on October 11, 2010, 09:15:04 pm
Post by: webadict on October 11, 2010, 09:49:20 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on October 11, 2010, 09:51:43 pm
Post by: webadict on October 11, 2010, 09:59:11 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on October 11, 2010, 11:13:36 pm
Anybody else think about a mafia games in progress during boring classes?
No, I was thinking about mafia in the interesting ones too.
Post by: Eduren on October 11, 2010, 11:20:24 pm
Now I realize how much I suck.
Post by: Vector on October 14, 2010, 03:47:45 pm
Well, I'm back... though I probably won't be around much for the next few years >_>;; Sorry, guys.
Post by: Spade on October 14, 2010, 03:48:07 pm
Post by: Eduren on October 14, 2010, 03:51:30 pm
They were good times while they lasted.
Post by: Mephansteras on October 14, 2010, 04:06:19 pm
*sigh*
Well, I'm back... though I probably won't be around much for the next few years >_>;; Sorry, guys.
Good to have you back, at least for now. But...why years?
Post by: Zathras on October 14, 2010, 04:09:15 pm
Well, glad to see you again, even if for a bit. Stick around if you can.
Cheers!
Post by: Vector on October 14, 2010, 04:18:56 pm
The other problem is that there's no one really active here right now, and I finger scum too easily :-\ It used to be challenging, but ... well, Leafsnail, Dakarian, CK, Webadict, and Pandarsenic are basically gone, as are Rysith, JoshuaFH, Zai, Neruz, and so on. Plus, Solifuge says he may be leaving. I went over to xkcd and nabbed scum from their first post in the game. I hoped a different community would help, but no.
They were good times, but sometimes we have to accept that they're over. I'll check in from time to time and probably sign up for any particularly appealing games, but I wouldn't expect much.
Good to have you back, at least for now. But...why years?
I've finally sorted out my priorities, and mathematics calls. It's the only place left to me, now. My friends have largely revealed themselves to be egotistical wankers, or just busy with their own lives. I'd rather not spend a lot of time waiting for people who do nothing with their spare time but play computer games and drink.
I've sorted out my family problems, but I'm not going to find a fulfilling life with my parents. With what I've learned about relationships, I know that I cannot live on love alone. I need a career, and when I do things I never do them halfway. Looking back on my life, the people who have most impassioned my spirit, treated me kindly, and imbued me with a sense of self were math professors. They're the ones I'll try to please now, to please myself.
I don't know. Simply put, I need to make a life for myself, and I cannot make it here. I have a different duty to uphold. I'd rather spend my spare time networking at talks and department teas than in a dying subforum with people who don't seem to care anymore.
Post by: Mr.Person on October 14, 2010, 04:21:18 pm
In all seriousness, good for you.
Post by: Vector on October 14, 2010, 04:23:58 pm
Sure, enhance your career. Where will that take you in 10 years?
You'll get promoted and have tons of cash. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? TO BE SUCCESSFUL?
I fucking love numbers, mate. It's not about the cash--I intend to give a good amount of that away, anyhow. It's about a chance to influence people and mean something rather than just being... lonely and pathetic. I want to help people, not just sit around doing the mental equivalent of scooping ice cream. I hope I'll be able to give others the courage to stand up and be grand men and women, and make better choices than I have.
I guess that in some senses, this is about revenge.
Post by: Eduren on October 14, 2010, 04:45:51 pm
Post by: Vector on October 14, 2010, 04:51:18 pm
In all seriousness, good for you.
Thanks--I appreciate it.
Make us proud.
I will.
Post by: Leafsnail on October 14, 2010, 04:52:50 pm
(Visit on irc sometime? Please?)
Post by: Vector on October 14, 2010, 04:56:06 pm
Post by: Zai on October 14, 2010, 05:06:31 pm
Make us proud.Indeed.
It used to be challenging, but ... well, Leafsnail, Dakarian, CK, Webadict, and Pandarsenic are basically gone, as are Rysith, JoshuaFH, Zai, Neruz, and so on.I'm standing right here! I've been right here all along!
Post by: Vector on October 14, 2010, 05:09:48 pm
It used to be challenging, but ... well, Leafsnail, Dakarian, CK, Webadict, and Pandarsenic are basically gone, as are Rysith, JoshuaFH, Zai, Neruz, and so on.I'm standing right here! I've been right here all along!
You're here, but you aren't playing much... all I mean is that most of the challenging players aren't in games much anymore, and the old "S-rankers" who kept the games moving are basically out of the picture.
No offense intended =)
Post by: webadict on October 14, 2010, 08:14:11 pm
Yeah... I'm moving from mafia-playing to story-writing as a hobby, plus I have a bunch of math to study before I go back to school.You can't leave yet. I have one last challenge for you.
The other problem is that there's no one really active here right now, and I finger scum too easily :-\ It used to be challenging, but ... well, Leafsnail, Dakarian, CK, Webadict, and Pandarsenic are basically gone, as are Rysith, JoshuaFH, Zai, Neruz, and so on. Plus, Solifuge says he may be leaving. I went over to xkcd and nabbed scum from their first post in the game. I hoped a different community would help, but no.
They were good times, but sometimes we have to accept that they're over. I'll check in from time to time and probably sign up for any particularly appealing games, but I wouldn't expect much.Good to have you back, at least for now. But...why years?
I've finally sorted out my priorities, and mathematics calls. It's the only place left to me, now. My friends have largely revealed themselves to be egotistical wankers, or just busy with their own lives. I'd rather not spend a lot of time waiting for people who do nothing with their spare time but play computer games and drink.
I've sorted out my family problems, but I'm not going to find a fulfilling life with my parents. With what I've learned about relationships, I know that I cannot live on love alone. I need a career, and when I do things I never do them halfway. Looking back on my life, the people who have most impassioned my spirit, treated me kindly, and imbued me with a sense of self were math professors. They're the ones I'll try to please now, to please myself.
I don't know. Simply put, I need to make a life for myself, and I cannot make it here. I have a different duty to uphold. I'd rather spend my spare time networking at talks and department teas than in a dying subforum with people who don't seem to care anymore.
But, you are right. I too feel the shifting sands. We are the dying breed of mafians. Nostalgia...
Remember when games were good, and not random pieces of crap where people do whatever they want whenever they wanted regardless of the how it affects the town? Or when everyone participated?
I don't. It's been that long.
But, Vector, I wish you will be able to play KWN. I wish all of those hardcore mafia players were only in the game.
But, yes. I'll (hopefully) see ya around, kid. You could try mafiascum if you want an actual mafia challenge. I'd join ya there if you agree. There's a lot less lurking, but the games aren't as fast-paced, and they play with a bit odder rules. But, they're very dedicated, seeing as how the entire forum is about Mafia.
Otherwise, I bid you adieu.
Post by: Pandarsenic on October 14, 2010, 08:19:23 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: webadict on October 14, 2010, 08:38:13 pm
VECTOR IS HERE TO DO MATH AND BE AWESOME, AND SHE'S ALL OUT OFOkay, that's pretty funny.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 14, 2010, 09:00:29 pm
Good luck, as if you need it. We know you don't, though. ^_^
Oh, and you said writing would be your new happy. Are we ever going to get to see any of that?
Post by: Vector on October 15, 2010, 12:41:26 am
VECTOR IS HERE TO DO MATH AND BE AWESOME, AND SHE'S ALL OUT OFSpoiler (click to show/hide)
:D
I'm glad we agree!
Oh, and you said writing would be your new happy. Are we ever going to get to see any of that?
Well, there is the completion of BMIX to look at =) As for other things, I'm currently polishing a short story which I'm going to try to publish, so I'm not PMing it out to anyone or posting it--kind of worried it will get stolen and I'll be out of 50 hours' work. At some point, I'll try to post some little noodly things, though.
Post by: webadict on October 15, 2010, 08:28:43 am
Webadict: I'll definitely play KWN (that's on my list of "stuff I'll in on, no questions asked"), and I'll consider joining Mafiascum in a while... after I've had a good long break from mafia in general, that is. When I do that, though, I'll be sure to send you a PM. I want to see you there :ISweet. I too was wanting a break, as my lack of Mafia games attests to. Just tell me when and I'll join.
I'll run KWN when this subforum gains some momentum.
Post by: Pandarsenic on October 15, 2010, 05:01:15 pm
Post by: Eduren on October 15, 2010, 05:05:20 pm
Post by: Zathras on October 15, 2010, 05:07:06 pm
Seriously, if you wanted it to go on, you'd need replacements for Lonewolf, JimG and Vector. At least. Plus a couple have said they didn't want to keep playing (Zai, I think, but I could be mistaken).
Post by: Vector on October 15, 2010, 05:08:28 pm
As-is, I just don't feel like it'd be worth it. I was totally with it. I was energized and happy to play the game. Keep playing it, though... no thanks.
Post by: Zai on October 15, 2010, 05:15:22 pm
Quick question, should I Just mercykill BYOT or if I moved it right here and now would people play?Mercy kill. I am not playing that.
In other news: Since Vector's here, we should totally play a Mathematics-themed game of iSketch tomorrow.
Post by: Vector on October 15, 2010, 05:18:07 pm
Quick question, should I Just mercykill BYOT or if I moved it right here and now would people play?Mercy kill. I am not playing that.
In other news: Since Vector's here, we should totally play a Mathematics-themed game of iSketch tomorrow.
O_O
Oh shit. Yes. Pre-emptive in. Just let me know a bit before you want to start.
Post by: Org on October 15, 2010, 06:36:41 pm
I-sketch?Quick question, should I Just mercykill BYOT or if I moved it right here and now would people play?Mercy kill. I am not playing that.
In other news: Since Vector's here, we should totally play a Mathematics-themed game of iSketch tomorrow.
O_O
Oh shit. Yes. Pre-emptive in. Just let me know a bit before you want to start.
What
Post by: webadict on October 15, 2010, 09:48:32 pm
Post by: Vector on October 15, 2010, 09:51:35 pm
Ah, come on guys! Can we play on Sunday, too? I'll have internets then!
Sure, why don't we just go for Sunday?
Post by: Zathras on October 15, 2010, 09:55:07 pm
And what happened to the notable games archive?
Post by: Vector on October 15, 2010, 09:58:23 pm
Vector, before you go, can you unlock the sticky "games in progress" thread and name a replacement maintainer? Or unsticky it? It will be sad if it just remains there forever, empty, locked, and outdated.
And what happened to the notable games archive?
Meh. I'm not doing either of those for a bit, because ... well, quite frankly, I'm going to try to finish (my section of) the notable games archive, and I'm a lazy punk when it comes to maintenance around here.
I'll fix the games in progress thread soon.
Post by: Pandarsenic on October 16, 2010, 12:38:46 am
Post by: Solifuge on October 16, 2010, 01:50:22 am
Post by: Vector on October 16, 2010, 01:52:38 am
Post by: Solifuge on October 16, 2010, 02:00:23 am
I'll leave it up in the background for a bit, in the event that anyone wanted to poke around for a bit... but for those that don't know, it's basically Pictionary Online.
Post by: CobaltKobold on October 16, 2010, 05:30:57 am
Sounds tempting. I have an idea.Incidentally: we need a mafia game with intentionally bad flavour. We just do.I cans do if you tell me what you mean.
And I'm not running IMBM again yet because it requires [redacted].
Role: Twoneieeeurgh.
Just... SOUNDS like the best game ever...
Will miss you, Vector. Also, Solifuge = female.
Webadict: I'll definitely play KWN (that's on my list of "stuff I'll in on, no questions asked")I think I know an item on that list.
Post by: Tack on October 16, 2010, 06:11:51 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 16, 2010, 07:11:04 am
If its gonna survive, it really needs some dedicated new blood. Perhaps someone should make a post in the other/forum games forum with a description of what this is? It took me like 8 months to even notice this subforum was here, and even then I clicked on it just because I was wondering what it was.
Stupid isketch doesn't work on stupid linux, and my computer seems to be too crappy to pretend its windows well enough to play :(
(honestly, it would probably be too crappy to play, period. The coding for this site is pretty bulky, I recall, even when I used windows.)
Post by: webadict on October 16, 2010, 09:56:20 am
Post by: Eduren on October 16, 2010, 10:00:58 am
More details once PYS finishes.
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 16, 2010, 10:46:35 am
Post by: Zathras on October 16, 2010, 04:15:23 pm
I'm going to start up a new attendance board soon. Hopefully it will help.
More details once PYS finishes.
I can give a hand, if you wish... and yeah, with finishing PYS as well. I'm working on it.
Also, from Wizard Duel:
It's been a busy couple of days for me. I'll have the duel up hopefully tomorrow.
Yeah Meph! Hurry up and finish that thing already! What this place needs to wake back up is some Paranormal fun! I guarantee that it will fill in less than 48hrs.
Post by: Mindmaker on October 16, 2010, 04:53:48 pm
I'm eager to learn.
Post by: Vector on October 16, 2010, 05:01:29 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on October 16, 2010, 08:24:07 pm
Could anyone tell me, if there is another beginners mafia coming up anytime soon?
I'm eager to learn.
I'd expect another one to enter signups within the week.
Post by: Zai on October 16, 2010, 08:49:30 pm
That okay?
Post by: Vector on October 16, 2010, 09:47:47 pm
I'm definitely in.
Post by: webadict on October 16, 2010, 10:07:31 pm
Post by: Zai on October 16, 2010, 10:11:31 pm
12? I'll be three hours too late!Well I'll probably be gone by then. And I won't be back until maybe 2 hours later (making it a total of 5 hours later; 5 PM Central).
Post by: webadict on October 17, 2010, 09:30:40 am
Post by: Org on October 17, 2010, 09:55:30 am
Post by: Vector on October 17, 2010, 11:40:53 am
Post by: Zai on October 17, 2010, 11:46:34 am
The room's up now.
That is what I am talking about.
Post by: Vector on October 17, 2010, 11:47:15 am
Thank you, I'll be there.
Post by: Solifuge on October 17, 2010, 01:02:16 pm
Post by: Vector on October 17, 2010, 01:08:22 pm
Fun times! I am there, on a bear. Also, with a Tablet.
Dammit! I have to go, like, right now... but if you're still playing when I return, I'll be on like... prawn?
Couldn't make the your-mom joke =/
Post by: Zai on October 17, 2010, 01:18:04 pm
Quote
Solifuge: Guess things Mr.Person wouldn't know about
Solifuge: Meaningful relationships!
Post by: Mr.Person on October 17, 2010, 03:08:59 pm
Post by: Zai on October 17, 2010, 05:11:09 pm
Post by: webadict on October 17, 2010, 05:51:42 pm
There were games going for 5 hours.So, I show up at the very end. Stupid traffic.
Post by: Solifuge on October 17, 2010, 05:59:35 pm
Post by: Eduren on October 17, 2010, 07:13:25 pm
Come play with meeeeeeee
EDIT: Gah, I was getting massive lag, sorry guys.
Post by: Vector on October 17, 2010, 09:51:44 pm
Post by: Solifuge on October 17, 2010, 10:37:23 pm
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a226/Figgin/Misc/Skittyzilla.png?t=1287372844)
No, I don't have any idea either.
Post by: Zai on October 18, 2010, 04:40:55 pm
Skittyzilla:So that's what that thing was!
Post by: Org on October 18, 2010, 06:59:46 pm
Post by: Vector on October 18, 2010, 07:00:31 pm
Anyone up for some iSketch?
*raises hand*
Post by: Org on October 18, 2010, 07:02:26 pm
Post by: Org on October 18, 2010, 07:06:54 pm
room is Bay12
Post by: Solifuge on October 18, 2010, 08:03:59 pm
Post by: Vector on October 18, 2010, 08:05:14 pm
Huzzah! Isketch is my only real friend. You guys are okay too, though.
Haha. Back soon, busy nomming dinner.
Post by: webadict on October 18, 2010, 09:23:46 pm
Huzzah! Isketch is my only real friend. You guys are okay too, though.Psh. You're not even a regular!
Post by: Solifuge on October 18, 2010, 10:23:46 pm
Spoiler: ISketch: The I is for Innapropriate (click to show/hide)
BTW, the word was "One Night Stand". This is for being lame in Wizards 4, Cript. >:[
Post by: Zai on October 18, 2010, 10:54:51 pm
But I warned you about those fucking windows, bro.
Post by: webadict on October 19, 2010, 01:21:36 am
Post by: Solifuge on October 19, 2010, 04:40:50 pm
I'm off gallivanting with silly things, but I fully intend to open an ISketch room later... or perhaps something exotic like Settlers of Catan?
Post by: Mr.Person on October 19, 2010, 05:50:44 pm
But honestly I'd be willing to play anything, even poker.
Post by: Zathras on October 19, 2010, 06:26:37 pm
Online Carcassone would kick ass.
But honestly I'd be willing to play anything, even poker.
Crazy idea here: how about Mafia? VM3 is still open for signups, you know?
Shit. I'm sad to see this place so freaking quiet.
Post by: webadict on October 19, 2010, 06:44:32 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 19, 2010, 06:57:30 pm
Post by: Criptfeind on October 19, 2010, 07:07:20 pm
This is for being lame in Wizards 4, Cript. >:[
Dude, I beat you, get over it.
Post by: CobaltKobold on October 19, 2010, 08:22:14 pm
Huzzah! Isketch is my only real friend. You guys are okay too, though.I thought you guys were doing that over in the online mafia thread.
Post by: webadict on October 19, 2010, 08:35:03 pm
We do what we want.Huzzah! Isketch is my only real friend. You guys are okay too, though.I thought you guys were doing that over in the online mafia thread.
Post by: Solifuge on October 19, 2010, 09:03:05 pm
This is for being lame in Wizards 4, Cript. >:[
Dude, I beat you, get over it.
Dude, you won. Get over it. :3
Post by: CobaltKobold on October 19, 2010, 10:24:51 pm
WebadictWe do what we want.Huzzah! Isketch is my only real friend. You guys are okay too, though.I thought you guys were doing that over in the online mafia thread.
Post by: Criptfeind on October 19, 2010, 10:27:36 pm
This is for being lame in Wizards 4, Cript. >:[
Dude, I beat you, get over it.
Dude, you won. Get over it. :3
Wow.
You going to be passive aggressive forever now or is there a time limit? The others only did some good nature complaining but you... You man... You got a issue with playing it safe and I have no idea why.
Post by: CobaltKobold on October 19, 2010, 10:36:14 pm
":3" certainly sounds good-natured to me!Dude, you won. Get over it. :3
Wow.
You going to be passive aggressive forever now or is there a time limit? The others only did some good nature complaining but you... You man... You got a issue with playing it safe and I have no idea why.
Also, I like your 'all-positions-bandanna' pirate. Why does he also change his hat? Who drew it?
edit: fixed quote. What happened to delete post anyway?
Post by: Criptfeind on October 19, 2010, 10:44:28 pm
As for the pirate I don't know who drew it, RealmFighter stole it from another forum goer and I stole it from him.
Realm added the ninja mask and I made all the other masks and put them in a .gif, the change in hat came from some fourth guy that said I should put it in.
Edit: Do you think this looks better?
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: CobaltKobold on October 19, 2010, 11:03:36 pm
Post by: Solifuge on October 19, 2010, 11:40:33 pm
Also, my ":3"s are never passive aggressive. Merely impish.
Post by: Ottofar on October 20, 2010, 10:00:21 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 20, 2010, 12:20:47 pm
Post by: Eduren on October 20, 2010, 12:23:43 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on October 20, 2010, 06:01:24 pm
Post by: Zathras on October 20, 2010, 06:07:44 pm
Several of these aren't
* Bring your own Trope Mafia -- dead
* BYOR 5 -- dead
* Cybrid Mafia 2
* Alien zombie demons
* Beginner's Mafia 16 -- ended
* Vengeful Mafia 3
Games in Signups:
* Bring Someone Else's Role -- canceled
* Kingdom Mafia -- Mod is AWOL, don't know if it's still going to happen
You may notice how there are no actual games in signups at the moment! What an auspicious time for maybe a popular game format, tried and true, to begin! Nudge nudge, wink wink!
ETA: Meph, there's some interesting discussion happening on the last two pages of PYS (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=65968.795), pending a formal thread open for it. I'm sure your opinion would be much valued (now, or when the thread is up).
Post by: Vector on October 20, 2010, 06:11:03 pm
There's a reason why I was mouthing off about it a few pages back.
Post by: Mephansteras on October 20, 2010, 06:12:38 pm
Which I'll do, but not for a little bit. I have to get some other non-mafia stuff off my plate before I'll have the creative time and energy to start that up. Especially since I want to overhaul the Alien techs and maybe add in some new Aliens.
Post by: Zathras on October 20, 2010, 06:15:02 pm
Post by: Vector on October 20, 2010, 06:16:53 pm
As I said previously, though, I can IC.
Post by: Zathras on October 20, 2010, 06:21:52 pm
D-d-d-dead...
:(
Sorry, guys.
Post by: Toaster on October 20, 2010, 06:47:58 pm
Would anyone be interested in a moderately themed low role 9 player game? I've have a couple ideas I've been tossing around, and I wanted to try a hand at modding. (All the cool kids do it.)
Post by: Vector on October 20, 2010, 06:49:10 pm
Post by: webadict on October 20, 2010, 07:03:43 pm
Post by: Toaster on October 20, 2010, 07:30:48 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on October 20, 2010, 08:20:07 pm
Then I'll run one... much smaller. I think the big mistake I made was letting too many people join. Again.
I'll do this once I'm past my HURR HURRRRR MIDTERMS.
Post by: Org on October 20, 2010, 08:21:04 pm
Post by: Zai on October 20, 2010, 10:18:33 pm
Post by: Vector on October 20, 2010, 11:08:22 pm
I should have the time to start Zai the Bastard Mafia in about 2 weeks.
I'll be playing that.
Post by: Zathras on October 20, 2010, 11:09:15 pm
:-P
Well, it's your move now (or Wuba's) to open the new thread.
Post by: webadict on October 20, 2010, 11:12:47 pm
Eduren, dammit, that was a fun discussion!I'll get it... But don't expect it to be pretty just yet.
:-P
Well, it's your move now (or Wuba's) to open the new thread.
Post by: Eduren on October 20, 2010, 11:14:19 pm
Eduren, dammit, that was a fun discussion!I didn't do that.
:-P
Well, it's your move now (or Wuba's) to open the new thread.
Sorry Toady/Threetoe, I would have locked it myself if I had been on.
Post by: Vector on October 20, 2010, 11:22:09 pm
Eduren, dammit, that was a fun discussion!
To everyone involved in that discussion:
You guys need to learn how to calm down. If you think the S rank will turn into a "circle-jerk," say so politely. If you think attendance policies will destroy your fun of the game... then for goodness' sakes, be polite about it. Getting all pissy in games is one thing. Getting virulently insulting outside of them will destroy the subforum. Hell, it's already pretty much gone. Who cares? Why don't we just go around calling each other cunts when we don't like what others are proposing?
I don't expect you guys to play well. I don't expect you to be especially nice or supportive people. Hell, I don't even expect you to care about this place or keeping it running.
What I expect is that you be civilized. I believe you can do it.
Post by: webadict on October 20, 2010, 11:25:21 pm
I agree with you Vector. It's better to be polite than to be right. It's a game, guys. When you learn that, you realize how stupid it is to argue after the game is over about the little things in such an angry manner. If you want to discuss, then do it without yelling profanities.Eduren, dammit, that was a fun discussion!
To everyone involved in that discussion:
You guys need to learn how to calm down. If you think the S rank will turn into a "circle-jerk," say so politely. If you think attendance policies will destroy your fun of the game... then for goodness' sakes, be polite about it. Getting all pissy in games is one thing. Getting virulently insulting outside of them will destroy the subforum. Hell, it's already pretty much gone. Who cares? Why don't we just go around calling each other cunts when we don't like what others are proposing?
I don't expect you guys to play well. I don't expect you to be especially nice or supportive people. Hell, I don't even expect you to care about this place or keeping it running.
What I expect is that you be civilized. I believe you can do it.
Either that, or suck some lemons.
Post by: Eduren on October 20, 2010, 11:29:16 pm
Post by: Solifuge on October 20, 2010, 11:40:59 pm
Not to digress from the topic, but IRC Mafia (http://irc.globalgamers.net) anyone? There are approximately 7 Neruzes in there right now. It's nutters.
Post by: Eduren on October 20, 2010, 11:44:49 pm
I missed it completely, and I'm happy to keep it as such.Is that where he went? I haven't seen him in a while.
Not to digress from the topic, but IRC Mafia (http://irc.globalgamers.net) anyone? There are approximately 7 Neruzes in there right now. It's nutters.
Post by: Vector on October 20, 2010, 11:46:01 pm
Post by: Eduren on October 20, 2010, 11:47:07 pm
He got banned, actually.That's right, I forgot.
Post by: webadict on October 20, 2010, 11:55:20 pm
He's actually over at mafiascum. I was browsing the site and I found him there. I was actually quite surprised.He got banned, actually.That's right, I forgot.
Post by: Solifuge on October 21, 2010, 12:04:37 am
Anywho, busy lynchin' scums and catching up on old times.
Post by: Pandarsenic on October 21, 2010, 02:20:54 am
On a more serious note, I would join you but I'm writing a paper.
As you can tell by my posting here, it's not going so well.
Post by: Org on October 21, 2010, 06:10:03 am
Others who were banned, you couldnt see their profiles and their names said guest and stuff.
Post by: webadict on October 21, 2010, 11:00:12 am
Post by: Vector on October 21, 2010, 11:01:54 am
Spoiler: current games status (click to show/hide)
All right. I honestly think that maybe we shouldn't open any more games up, for now.
Though on the other hand...
GlyphGryph, how do you feel about re-opening that 5p bastard mod you were going to run at some point? You know, the 5p bastard round two. I'd certainly play that, and it looks like small games are what's going right now.
Might also be a good idea to get a 7p or 9p mountainous/near-mountainous running.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on October 21, 2010, 11:14:42 am
Post by: Vector on October 21, 2010, 11:16:30 am
If I knew the first thing (and also all the other things) about running a game, I would take a stab and open one just to get the activity back. As it stands, I'm in alien zombie demons and that's about it.
Maybe you could run the next BM? After XVII finishes, Toaster's going to be running a game, so it might be good for you to get things going with BMXVIII--or you could try a mountainous, if Eduren doesn't want to get that started.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on October 21, 2010, 11:29:23 am
If I knew the first thing (and also all the other things) about running a game, I would take a stab and open one just to get the activity back. As it stands, I'm in alien zombie demons and that's about it.
Maybe you could run the next BM? After XVII finishes, Toaster's going to be running a game, so it might be good for you to get things going with BMXVIII--or you could try a mountainous, if Eduren doesn't want to get that started.
Sure, if someone wants to give me pointers about how to balance and run things. I literally know nothing about running games. Which is sad, since I've been here for some time.
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 21, 2010, 12:04:04 pm
Anyways, on account of how I am running two games starting tomorrow (when Cybrid2 kicks off), I think I'll probably wait until one of them finishes before running it, but I've got no problem with bringing the quick bastard back if people want to play it. I still got the set up.
Post by: Vector on October 21, 2010, 12:11:13 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on October 21, 2010, 12:16:51 pm
If I knew the first thing (and also all the other things) about running a game, I would take a stab and open one just to get the activity back. As it stands, I'm in alien zombie demons and that's about it.
Maybe you could run the next BM? After XVII finishes, Toaster's going to be running a game, so it might be good for you to get things going with BMXVIII--or you could try a mountainous, if Eduren doesn't want to get that started.
Sure, if someone wants to give me pointers about how to balance and run things. I literally know nothing about running games. Which is sad, since I've been here for some time.
A mountainous game has no roles, so the only balancing is the town/scum ratio. Which is about 1 scum for every 4 players.
If you decide to run one you can ask me anything you like on running games. I've got it down pretty well at this point.
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 21, 2010, 12:17:39 pm
Definitely running this.
Post by: Toaster on October 21, 2010, 01:16:57 pm
If I knew the first thing (and also all the other things) about running a game, I would take a stab and open one just to get the activity back. As it stands, I'm in alien zombie demons and that's about it.
Maybe you could run the next BM? After XVII finishes, Toaster's going to be running a game, so it might be good for you to get things going with BMXVIII--or you could try a mountainous, if Eduren doesn't want to get that started.
I see you've already decided I'm a good mod who should run more games! ;D
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on October 21, 2010, 01:41:30 pm
If I knew the first thing (and also all the other things) about running a game, I would take a stab and open one just to get the activity back. As it stands, I'm in alien zombie demons and that's about it.
Maybe you could run the next BM? After XVII finishes, Toaster's going to be running a game, so it might be good for you to get things going with BMXVIII--or you could try a mountainous, if Eduren doesn't want to get that started.
Sure, if someone wants to give me pointers about how to balance and run things. I literally know nothing about running games. Which is sad, since I've been here for some time.
A mountainous game has no roles, so the only balancing is the town/scum ratio. Which is about 1 scum for every 4 players.
If you decide to run one you can ask me anything you like on running games. I've got it down pretty well at this point.
Does this mean I get to be your apprentice? :D
Post by: Mephansteras on October 21, 2010, 01:44:23 pm
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on October 21, 2010, 01:51:58 pm
Post by: Vector on October 21, 2010, 02:07:53 pm
I see you've already decided I'm a good mod who should run more games! ;D
Heh, there's a correlation between meticulous playstyles and good modding. So yes, I already pretty much know that once you've gotten things figured out, you'll be a good mod =)
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 21, 2010, 02:37:26 pm
Post by: Vector on October 21, 2010, 02:38:53 pm
While I am not meticulous at all, and am thus a TERRIBLE mod ;)
No, no! You're a good mod. I like your games.
Post by: Toaster on October 21, 2010, 02:58:13 pm
Post by: Eduren on October 21, 2010, 03:05:53 pm
That said, I believe Toony should run another Toon mafia.
Post by: ToonyMan on October 21, 2010, 03:09:50 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on October 21, 2010, 05:18:32 pm
Post by: Tylui on October 21, 2010, 05:21:31 pm
Here's the link to the topic, and I've locked it for now, until it's "polite" to unlock. http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=68910
Post by: Eduren on October 21, 2010, 05:29:13 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on October 21, 2010, 05:35:41 pm
I agree, though, that shooting for a smaller number of players is probably wise.
Post by: Zathras on October 21, 2010, 05:37:16 pm
I'd like to put Sorcerer's Apprentice into signups unless anyone has a serious objection.
I'm not familiar with the setup, linky please?
Hi there. So, as you may have noticed, I started a game without consulting this thread.
I liked your idea quite a bit, it sounds like fun. There's another thread that hasn't been active for a while to discuss game balance, creation & set up. I'll look for it and bump it, so you can discuss your potential balance issues better.
That said, to both of you and the rest: we do need more games open! I want to play something role heavy, like a BYOR or Paranormal, or GG's Alien/Zombie/Demons (had I known it would be that much fun, I'd have inned there). I'm only in VM3 for now, and those only last a couple of days... There's only the BM and suggestions of a Mountainous coming, nothing role heavy. 8-/
I want cults, and resurrections, and cops, trackers, & PWVs. Throw a guy a bone, yes?
Post by: Eduren on October 21, 2010, 05:42:16 pm
That said, to both of you and the rest: we do need more games open! I want to play something role heavy, like a BYOR or Paranormal, or GG's Alien/Zombie/Demons (had I known it would be that much fun, I'd have inned there). I'm only in VM3 for now, and those only last a couple of days... There's only the BM and suggestions of a Mountainous coming, nothing role heavy. 8-/EBYOR2?
Post by: Zathras on October 21, 2010, 05:43:46 pm
Post by: Eduren on October 21, 2010, 05:44:47 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on October 21, 2010, 06:00:59 pm
I'd like to put Sorcerer's Apprentice into signups unless anyone has a serious objection.
I'm not familiar with the setup, linky please?
I posted it in the Gametypes thread a while ago, here's a link:
Clicky (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=44314.msg1525821)
I've tweaked it a bit since then. I'm probably going to go ahead and put it in signups this evening or tomorrow morning with more complete rules.
Post by: Zathras on October 21, 2010, 06:11:51 pm
I posted it in the Gametypes thread a while ago, here's a link:
Clicky (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=44314.msg1525821)
I've tweaked it a bit since then. I'm probably going to go ahead and put it in signups this evening or tomorrow morning with more complete rules.
Hmmm. Doesn't seem like my type of game. Wasn't a fan of Wizard Duel either. But I certainly have no objections, the board needs more open games, and wish you success with it. Go for it.
Anyone else interested in EBYOR2?
Post by: JanusTwoface on October 21, 2010, 06:27:05 pm
I posted it in the Gametypes thread a while ago, here's a link:
Clicky (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=44314.msg1525821)
I've tweaked it a bit since then. I'm probably going to go ahead and put it in signups this evening or tomorrow morning with more complete rules.
Hmmm. Doesn't seem like my type of game. Wasn't a fan of Wizard Duel either. But I certainly have no objections, the board needs more open games, and wish you success with it. Go for it.
It's much more straight forward than Wizard's Duel. Each day there's a lynch, each night there's a nightkill.
The power-roles are different in that their power depends on how much support they get from the non-power-roles, but until/unless people reveal if/which Sorcerer they are, you can't necessarily tell who you're supporting. Of course, nothing's stopping them from lying...
To each their own though.
Anyone else interested in EBYOR2?
Bring-Your-Own-Roles seem like a great idea until they actually start. Then they tend to not go so well... :-\
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on October 21, 2010, 06:45:12 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on October 21, 2010, 07:00:29 pm
You know it makes sense.
Post by: ToonyMan on October 21, 2010, 07:02:58 pm
Yes.
Okay that's game.
Post by: Zathras on October 21, 2010, 07:04:29 pm
Super modless honesty mafia.
You know it makes sense.
Heheh... that's what VM3 is turning into. I actually think it can work! At least for a small game like that...
Post by: JanusTwoface on October 21, 2010, 07:06:06 pm
Post by: Zathras on October 21, 2010, 07:20:50 pm
Sorcerer's Apprentice (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=68920) is in signups. Join now! (You know you want to!)
Seeing its description there it looks more fun than I thought, and I'm jonesing for a game, so I'll hop in! Hopefully it fills fast.
Post by: Leafsnail on October 21, 2010, 07:44:36 pm
Are you mafia?It's more like:
Yes.
Okay that's game.
Person starting posts a quicktopic link to all the role pms. First signup takes the first link, second takes the second and so on.
Game is played with days, nights, lynchings and roleflips done on honesty.
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 21, 2010, 07:57:00 pm
Quote
I want to play something role heavy, like a BYOR or Paranormal, or GG's Alien/Zombie/Demons (had I known it would be that much fun, I'd have inned there).
My games are always role heavy, generally quirky and (imo), pretty fun... even if they are occasionally about as fair and balanced as Fox news. They are not generally traditional mafia, so they aren't everyone's cup of tea, though.
If you're interested, though, you should definitely consider joining in on my quick bastard. alien zombie demons should hopefully be done by the end of next week, cybrid mafia setup will be finished tomorrow so it should be chugging along by then, so I might as well open quick bastard sign ups now...
Post by: Zathras on October 21, 2010, 08:05:14 pm
QuoteI want to play something role heavy, like a BYOR or Paranormal, or GG's Alien/Zombie/Demons (had I known it would be that much fun, I'd have inned there).My games are always role heavy, generally quirky and (imo), pretty fun... even if they are occasionally about as fair and balanced as Fox news. They are not generally traditional mafia, so they aren't everyone's cup of tea, though.
If you're interested, though, you should definitely consider joining in on my quick bastard. alien zombie demons should hopefully be done by the end of next week, cybrid mafia setup will be finished tomorrow so it should be chugging along by then, so I might as well open quick bastard sign ups now...
Oh, you betcha. I just finished reading through that, and it was endless (well, it ended pretty quickly, but still) fun! It was the "bad flavour" idea that kept me away from AZD at first, as it seemed too painful to read and I didn't think it would be that much fun.... but man, was I wrong. It's very prognostic!
I pre-in for your upcoming bastard, if I can.
Post by: Vector on October 21, 2010, 09:46:03 pm
... Still underway! We're in room Bay12.
Post by: Tylui on October 22, 2010, 09:35:23 am
Post by: webadict on October 22, 2010, 09:37:22 am
Post by: Zathras on October 22, 2010, 09:47:45 am
Just sayin'... you can still do what you wish, and I'll probably play it anyway, but due diligence may improve your chances of success.
Post by: Solifuge on October 25, 2010, 07:45:46 pm
Also, for any who might not have caught it, there's now a dedicated thread over here (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=68953.0), such that it doesn't keep getting mixed in with Mafia prep.
Post by: webadict on October 25, 2010, 09:26:18 pm
Post by: Eduren on October 27, 2010, 01:42:41 pm
1. A NSBM-esque game that could be hosted as regularly as the BMs (There has been some interest in this, and I have volunteered to do it a few times)
2. PYS2: Electric Boogaloo
3. EBYOR2
4. Something else entirely
I'm not exactly sure how people feel about PYS now that the first one sorta failed. I still think that it is a nice idea and could benefit from some tweaking (like town power roles). What are your opinions on how PYS could be improved?
Post by: GlyphGryph on October 27, 2010, 07:21:44 pm
Maybe even a quick bastard!
Post by: Pandarsenic on October 28, 2010, 01:33:09 am
Post by: Zathras on October 29, 2010, 08:27:01 pm
Eduren, from your options, I'd like EBYOR2, though I don't recall the first one. I miss the BYOR nuttiness.
Post by: Mephansteras on October 30, 2010, 04:58:04 am
Post by: Ottofar on October 30, 2010, 09:38:43 am
Ottofar, you've been pretty quiet recently. Are you planning to run VM4 soon? Or would you mind if someone else does? There don't seem to be games open for signups at the moment.
Eduren, from your options, I'd like EBYOR2, though I don't recall the first one. I miss the BYOR nuttiness.
Opened.
Post by: Eduren on October 31, 2010, 02:31:24 am
What I want to do with it is turn it into a few things.
- A segue from Beginners Mafia into the more competitive mafia.
- A place for people that want the "Pure" mafia experience so they can battle wits
- A place for people to hone their skills. Whether they're rusty or just want to be a better player.
- A place for people to repair their attendance ranking. If they can stay active in this game, they get a bonus to their rank (exact amount to be worked out with webby)
Now, I'm not sure how well those goals coincide, so if you expect us to run into problems, let me know.
I'm also having trouble figuring out what to call it (As always :P). I'm kinda hesitant to call it NSBM because mine seems to have a different purpose than the original. Any suggestions? Intermediate Mafia? Skills Mafia?
Oooh, I know! "The Dakarian Memorial Academy for players that want to Better Themselves", DMA for short.
Post by: Mr.Person on October 31, 2010, 04:28:14 am
Or, if you want it to be more dramatic, Mafia on a Plain
Post by: Eduren on October 31, 2010, 06:48:12 pm
Post by: Vector on November 01, 2010, 01:23:53 am
Post by: JanusTwoface on November 04, 2010, 05:11:52 pm
I'll put another round into signups tonight / tomorrow pending interest (with more balanced scum numbers :-\).
Post by: Org on November 04, 2010, 05:34:45 pm
Post by: Zathras on November 04, 2010, 05:53:41 pm
Post by: Vector on November 04, 2010, 05:56:37 pm
We need just one more for the DMA. Does anyone care to join?
(Not me, I'm weighed down by enough work to kill an elephant)
Post by: Eduren on November 04, 2010, 06:03:36 pm
Post by: Zai on November 04, 2010, 09:56:06 pm
Post by: Ottofar on November 06, 2010, 09:08:00 am
Again.
Post by: Vector on November 13, 2010, 05:04:46 pm
There is what appears to be a neat Lost-themed Semi-Bastard Mod (closed roles, very, very mild) (http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=37971&view=unread#p2386087) running over at xkcd. I am signed up. They require more players. They also do not have the same daily posting restrictions we do... Warning, however, for enormosity. It's a 27-player game, though to be honest, their games are a lot slower and people post one hell of a lot less. So their large games are typically much easier to handle than pPick was, or even most of the Paranormals.
Anyway, hope to see some of you dudes there. I would be an even-more-cheerful Vector.
Post by: GlyphGryph on November 13, 2010, 06:00:30 pm
Post by: Vector on November 13, 2010, 06:05:27 pm
Your wish is my command, master. You have two wishes remaining.
Hurray!
*bounce bounce bounce*
Post by: JanusTwoface on November 14, 2010, 04:47:29 pm
Post by: Mindmaker on November 15, 2010, 03:50:17 am
Post by: Eduren on November 15, 2010, 04:11:29 am
Post by: JanusTwoface on November 15, 2010, 11:33:11 am
How experienced do you need to be, before joining?For pretty much any game, if you've played mafia (forum mafia in particular), you'll be fine.
If you haven't, you can join anyways. Just stay active and listen to what people are trying to tell you. ( well, except for the scum... :) )
(if you were talking about Sorcerer's Apprentice, signups will stay open until sometime this evening, feel free to join)
Post by: Toaster on November 16, 2010, 08:52:03 am
I've got some game ideas in my head, and I'm going to be working to flesh them out. The one I want to do first is a more standard 9p game with standard roles. Any objections to putting it to signups in the next day or so? We have three running games and one in signups.
Post by: Argembarger on November 16, 2010, 10:52:30 am
Post by: Ottofar on November 16, 2010, 12:16:24 pm
Folks!
There is what appears to be a neat Lost-themed Semi-Bastard Mod (closed roles, very, very mild) (http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=37971&view=unread#p2386087) running over at xkcd. I am signed up. They require more players. They also do not have the same daily posting restrictions we do... Warning, however, for enormosity. It's a 27-player game, though to be honest, their games are a lot slower and people post one hell of a lot less. So their large games are typically much easier to handle than pPick was, or even most of the Paranormals.
Anyway, hope to see some of you dudes there. I would be an even-more-cheerful Vector.
Registerinning. I think.
O-kayy, I think I accidentally posted it twice, since it didn't show in the thread.
Then I read the after-post thingie. Yeah.
Post by: Vector on November 16, 2010, 01:29:31 pm
Waiting for BM XVIII signups with bated breath.
Yeah, I don't know who had this one. Wasn't it Jokerman-Exe or something?
Post by: Vector on November 16, 2010, 05:53:28 pm
O-kayy, I think I accidentally posted it twice, since it didn't show in the thread.
Then I read the after-post thingie. Yeah.
Did you maybe hit "save" instead of "post?" I still haven't found you on there...
Post by: Eduren on November 16, 2010, 06:10:01 pm
At least that's what happened to my post.
Post by: Vector on November 16, 2010, 06:10:25 pm
Vector is happified.
Post by: Eduren on November 16, 2010, 06:15:15 pm
Post by: Vector on November 16, 2010, 06:17:23 pm
Can you not see the post I made? Anyway, yes I decided to give it a shot.
Nope, can't see it. But thanks for coming!
Post by: Eduren on November 16, 2010, 06:20:51 pm
Post by: webadict on November 16, 2010, 09:52:10 pm
Actually, no I wouldn't. But thanks for the offer. One forum is enough for me...
Post by: Vector on November 16, 2010, 11:40:40 pm
Post by: Solifuge on November 16, 2010, 11:50:52 pm
Post by: Vector on November 17, 2010, 12:00:13 am
Post by: webadict on November 17, 2010, 05:54:47 am
Except for Mafiascum, right? :DCurses. Foiled again!
Post by: Solifuge on November 17, 2010, 02:07:28 pm
>_>
Stupid, convincing tildes...
Post by: Toaster on November 17, 2010, 02:09:05 pm
I'd appreciate it if someone eyeballed the standard ruleset I put together and made sure I didn't miss anything obvious.
Spoiler: Rules (click to show/hide)
Post by: Mindmaker on November 17, 2010, 03:02:59 pm
However I shouldn't, since I'll be very busy for another week or so.
I'll probably have time, once this business in concluded.
Post by: Leafsnail on November 17, 2010, 05:49:41 pm
*leaves*
Post by: Eduren on November 17, 2010, 05:50:52 pm
Yeah, the only reason I don't play on mafiascum or here much is that I don't like the time commitment. Not even entirely that I don't have the time... more that I have a tendancy to lack motivation over too many games. I mean, right now I'm shirking on my mystery solving duties in another forum.Bye Leafy.
*leaves*
Post by: Vector on November 17, 2010, 06:09:41 pm
Yeah, the only reason I don't play on mafiascum or here much is that I don't like the time commitment. Not even entirely that I don't have the time... more that I have a tendancy to lack motivation over too many games. I mean, right now I'm shirking on my mystery solving duties in another forum.
*leaves*
D:
You're... just disappearing like that? Please come play a game once in a while...
Post by: Vector on November 17, 2010, 06:11:22 pm
Post by: webadict on November 17, 2010, 06:33:27 pm
If there's any people wishing to join, this is a interest check.
Post by: Vector on November 17, 2010, 06:34:23 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on November 17, 2010, 06:41:27 pm
Also, I think I might in to webadict's weird bastard mod.
Post by: webadict on November 17, 2010, 06:56:42 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on November 17, 2010, 07:02:37 pm
Post by: webadict on November 17, 2010, 07:08:24 pm
I call it. Vector is clearly the mafia.I always thought that she was a straight line, but I guess not.
Post by: Toaster on November 17, 2010, 10:30:21 pm
Post by: webadict on November 17, 2010, 10:49:45 pm
That's why she's a good player here- she has both magnitude and direction.She could probably point a few people in the right direction.
Post by: Mr.Person on November 19, 2010, 02:12:47 am
Vector gave us an refreshing angle on some old concepts. She knows that mafia isn't just a numbers game. After all, a number alone is meaningless.That's why she's a good player here- she has both magnitude and direction.She could probably point a few people in the right direction.
On a more serious, non-pun-related note, I think we should run a Christmas Mafia 2 pretty soon. Or failing that (or on top of that), I've got this idea for a "Bring Your Own Winter Holiday" game that's umm... well, self explanatory. Take BYOR. Add a theme. You're done. Well, I mean there's complex stuff such as balancing roles and whatnot, but ignore those minor details that MAY be slightly important.
Post by: Toaster on November 19, 2010, 09:26:46 am
Also, I'd like to ask an experienced mod (that's not playing in it) a couple balancing questions on Salad Mafia, if you please. I just want to make sure it won't be an unbalanced mess.
Post by: Mephansteras on November 19, 2010, 12:57:17 pm
I could also run the Christmas Mafia if people want. Assuming Pandarsenic doesn't want to (I think he ran it last time.) I liked the last one, but it needs some balancing. Too much math based determination of who is who last time.
Post by: Vector on November 19, 2010, 01:22:12 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on November 19, 2010, 05:25:14 pm
I choose the solstice.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on November 19, 2010, 06:31:23 pm
Or, failing that, I can try my hand at running it (maybe with Meph's help >.>).
Post by: Eduren on November 19, 2010, 11:35:30 pm
Post by: Mindmaker on November 22, 2010, 03:35:03 pm
That would be the earliest date, I'd dare to participate in one again.
Post by: Solifuge on November 22, 2010, 03:55:53 pm
Post by: Zai on November 22, 2010, 05:58:58 pm
Post by: Zathras on November 23, 2010, 03:25:31 pm
Hey guys, would someone like to run VM5, I'd like to play one of these?
Sure, I'll volunteer. I like the VMs, I would like to try my hand at modding, and I have a couple of flavourful ideas. These games are simple enough for an inexperienced mod like me to get their feet wet, yes? Also, it will let me put up periodic LurkerTrackers without people giving me shit for it. 8-P
Unless people object, I'll put VM5 up for signups, though it won't start until next week at the earliest.
PS: Speaking of the lurkertracker, if Toaster, Janus, or Wuba would like, I could pop in the running games and post a report every once in a while; just let me know if you think it would be useful.
Post by: Mephansteras on November 23, 2010, 03:30:20 pm
So when will the holiday game be? Is it going to be Pick Your/a Holiday?
I could run it, but I probably won't have time until Paranormal 17 ends. And that's going to be a bit, since we're only at Night 2.
Post by: Toaster on November 23, 2010, 03:30:22 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on November 23, 2010, 03:32:08 pm
PS: Speaking of the lurkertracker, if Toaster, Janus, or Wuba would like, I could pop in the running games and post a report every once in a while; just let me know if you think it would be useful.I'm actually using it in Sorcerer's Apprentice to run the prods, but posting it would probably be overkill.
Post by: Zathras on November 23, 2010, 03:41:58 pm
Also, please don't fully trust the RedText finder thing yet; it's generally good, but it has been known to miss an entry here and there, and I still need to tinker with it more.
The VM5 thread will open for signups some time tonight, then, unless there are objections.
Post by: webadict on November 24, 2010, 09:17:56 am
Post by: Zathras on November 24, 2010, 06:03:47 pm
I would use it... But there's only so much effort I can put forth. Plus, there's usually less players in my game than Paranormal.
No effort on your part is required, just say the word, and I'll pop in every couple of days with a post like this one in Salad (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=70902.msg1743901#msg1743901). I have no agenda to push, nor wish to force people into anything... just making an offer if the mods would find it helpful, and assuming I have the time. But it's no big deal either way; if you don't request it, I'll assume you are fine without my verbose help.
About VM5: real life is intruding again, so I'll probably delay opening the thread for a day or two. It's holidays in the US, so it's not like we're expecting heavy traffic for the next few days anyway.
Post by: Mr.Person on November 24, 2010, 06:50:10 pm
Playing games just isn't as much fun as it once was in the past.
Post by: Pandarsenic on November 25, 2010, 02:52:41 am
Post by: Toaster on November 26, 2010, 12:04:29 am
Post by: RedWarrior0 on November 26, 2010, 12:57:36 am
Post by: Mr.Person on November 26, 2010, 01:04:23 am
Given that there aren't that many winter holidays, how do you plan to deal with people picking the same holiday?
There's no need to pick the holidays themselves. "Snow" and "Santa" are valid choices.
Also, no need for identical choices to get identical roles.
Post by: Leafsnail on November 26, 2010, 09:22:10 am
Post by: Mephansteras on December 01, 2010, 06:33:51 pm
We don't seem to have any games in the Queue or signups.
Post by: Vector on December 01, 2010, 06:35:22 pm
And yeah: Someone needs to run the next BM. Takers?
Post by: Vector on December 02, 2010, 03:36:27 am
Post by: Argembarger on December 02, 2010, 10:01:39 am
Probably mountainous, to see if the core premise is feasible before I start complicating the hell out of it.
And by "planning" I mean "would totally be down for opening sign ups right now if there weren't 5 games active already"
Post by: Mephansteras on December 02, 2010, 10:44:36 am
Post by: Vector on December 02, 2010, 04:25:19 pm
Would you mind doing a test run on a BM first? More trained mods = good, and more trained players = also good. You'll also be more likely to get good signup levels.
Post by: Argembarger on December 02, 2010, 04:28:15 pm
Post by: Vector on December 02, 2010, 04:30:35 pm
Uh, yeah, sure. I'm cool with holding off my game to run a Beginner's Mafia.
Huzzah! Thank you~!
Post by: Argembarger on December 02, 2010, 04:32:43 pm
Post by: Vector on December 02, 2010, 04:33:59 pm
When should I do that then? I could create the thread and open signups later tonight, if wanted.
Yeah, we've been missing BMs for almost a couple of weeks, now. I'd really appreciate it if you did that tonight.
Feel free to PM me if you have any questions. I might direct you to someone else (>_>), but I'd try.
Post by: Mephansteras on December 02, 2010, 04:34:38 pm
You can also ask me questions about modding, if you need to.
Post by: Argembarger on December 02, 2010, 04:38:59 pm
Post by: Toaster on December 02, 2010, 04:54:16 pm
Post by: Vector on December 02, 2010, 08:02:48 pm
Notable Games Archive will be finished later tonight.
Post by: Zathras on December 02, 2010, 08:41:51 pm
Altered the Signboard to take mod input. Though this isn't that important right now, it's going to be important later when we have 8 games running simultaneously and 5 in signups again. Take a look, and please comment over here--I'm trying to keep that thread as uncluttered as possible.
Notable Games Archive will be finished later tonight.
Neat! Good work, I'm sure the mods will figure it out and maintain it responsibly. Also, the LurkerTracker made the "Useful Threads" list! Woohoo! 8-)
Post by: Mephansteras on December 11, 2010, 03:20:20 pm
What should I run next?
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 11, 2010, 03:30:45 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on December 11, 2010, 04:36:29 pm
Post by: Ottofar on December 11, 2010, 04:45:54 pm
Supernormal mafia.Paranatural duel of supernormal wizards mafia?
Post by: Leafsnail on December 11, 2010, 04:47:33 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on December 11, 2010, 09:02:27 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on December 11, 2010, 09:04:02 pm
Well, Paranormal 17 is done.
What should I run next?
I say Supernatural Mafia, on account of having missed all the summer fun when they were running.
But I'm not picky. I'll play whatever.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 11, 2010, 09:15:53 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 11, 2010, 09:29:50 pm
Wait. Do Extraordinary Mafia. Paranormal town, Supernatural scumThe whole reason Supernatural exists is to split the themes...
I'd vote for either another Paranormal or Supernatural. Maybe leaning towards Paranormal because I want to see one of the new Aliens in play (Spore Spreader / Hivemind) and see what that does to the game. But Supernatural would be fun as well.
Post by: Zathras on December 12, 2010, 12:38:34 am
Well, Paranormal 17 is done. What should I run next?
I would be in favour of Paranormal 18, rather than Supernatural, if only because after having all the rules rattling 'round my noggin for a month, I'd rather reuse that instead of starting from scratch with another set just as complicated.
...but I'm also OK with either choice, and I'll in anyway.
Post by: Mr.Person on December 12, 2010, 01:22:56 am
I'd like to play a Supernatural while we digest what we've learned role-wise from the last game of Paranormal and discuss changes.
Post by: Zathras on December 12, 2010, 01:54:23 am
...speaking of which, dudes! Sign up for Person's BYOWH! If you wait too long, it will no longer be seasonally accurate!
On other things, Argembarger: I extend to you the same offer (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=45016.msg1743663#msg1743663) I made to Toaster & Janus (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=45016.msg1747185#msg1747185): if you want, I can pop into BMXVIII once every few days and post a Lurkertracker, assuming I have the time. No effort on your part is needed other than to say the word; if you don't, I'll assume you don't need my verbose help, no big deal. This offer is open to any other mods of ongoing games, except for those where I'm in... if I'm in it, then you are getting them, whether you want them or not, since it's up to the player to post whatever he wants to post. (Well, I guess if you really don't want them, send me a PM and ask nicely, and I'll stop. Maybe. 8-P)
Post by: Mr.Person on December 12, 2010, 02:51:52 am
Post by: Toaster on December 12, 2010, 01:28:34 pm
I liked Wizard Duel. It's a nice twist on the standard game format. However, WD4 suffered from poor activity. I'm not sure if it was a general dislike of the format or board-wide low activity (I suspect a bit of both), but in either case I would suggest shelving it until we have better all-around activity.
Post by: Mephansteras on December 13, 2010, 01:21:41 pm
Still need to hash out some details, but I'll at least stick it in the queue.
Post by: Toaster on December 13, 2010, 02:13:43 pm
Post by: Zathras on December 13, 2010, 02:46:00 pm
I came up with a great idea for a Bastard Paranormal. So I'm going that next.
It's a Christmas Miracle! In!
Quote from: Toaster
I hope it has plenty of room, because it's going to get crowded in there fast.Yup.
Post by: Mephansteras on December 13, 2010, 02:47:57 pm
I hope it has plenty of room, because it's going to get crowded in there fast.
Haven't decided the actual max yet. But I will probably be a little more stringent on people joining who haven't played a Paranormal before. Paranormal can be a bit nasty with all the complications by itself, let alone one designed to be hard.
Post by: Toaster on December 15, 2010, 11:28:07 am
Any special preferences for my next game? I have several ideas in my head, but the only specific variant I'd like to give a try is a Deep South game- I don't recall seeing one here other than somebody's bastard mod. (DOGM2?) In any case, I won't put it into signups until probably the Monday after Christmas.
Post by: webadict on December 15, 2010, 02:11:17 pm
Mafia Salad is complete.You could do Kingmaker or Election. Nobody's done an Election Mafia.
Any special preferences for my next game? I have several ideas in my head, but the only specific variant I'd like to give a try is a Deep South game- I don't recall seeing one here other than somebody's bastard mod. (DOGM2?) In any case, I won't put it into signups until probably the Monday after Christmas.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 15, 2010, 02:25:01 pm
Post by: Toaster on December 15, 2010, 02:26:42 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 15, 2010, 02:45:30 pm
I have a cruel idea for a Bastard game, but it would require a few people.A few being... ?
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 15, 2010, 02:50:45 pm
12 or 13. So not a good time for menor the subforum for the game. Do note that I am willing to offer cruel ideas for people who want to develop a bastard game.I have a cruel idea for a Bastard game, but it would require a few people.A few being... ?
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 15, 2010, 03:13:04 pm
Post by: webadict on December 15, 2010, 05:32:43 pm
I'm not familiar with Election. Do you have a description? I didn't see one on MafiaScum's wiki.Umm... It might be called President or something similar, but you elect someone to be the President as opposed to a Kingmaker choosing. He gets to choose who's lynched.
Post by: Vector on December 15, 2010, 05:40:15 pm
Have we forgotten about Webadict's attendance ranking board?
Post by: Org on December 15, 2010, 05:41:33 pm
Post by: webadict on December 15, 2010, 05:44:50 pm
To people with games that just ended:I believe they have. Janus was nice enough to send me his game results, though. I'll have them up soon, but man it'd sure be nice to have others.
Have we forgotten about Webadict's attendance ranking board?
Post by: Mephansteras on December 15, 2010, 05:47:31 pm
Are we PMing them or just posting in the thread?
Post by: Toaster on December 15, 2010, 11:07:39 pm
I'm not familiar with Election. Do you have a description? I didn't see one on MafiaScum's wiki.Umm... It might be called President or something similar, but you elect someone to be the President as opposed to a Kingmaker choosing. He gets to choose who's lynched.
Gotcha. Same idea, except via vote instead of random.
I'll just let the people decide!
Which would you rather see next from me: Kingmaker, Deep South, or another standard game?
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 15, 2010, 11:39:46 pm
I only hesitate because of how much trouble I had getting people to send in during the day early in Sorcerer's Apprentice. Seems like it could be doable though.
Of the two variants I've seen (actions as they come in, actions at a predetermined time), I would lean towards the latter. Same reason I don't like them in Paranormal, they're auto-confirming.
Although I guess it would be a reason for the mafia to day kill. Hmm.
Post by: Toaster on December 16, 2010, 12:06:03 am
Post by: Mindmaker on December 25, 2010, 05:49:45 pm
I'd like to take part in a "real" game once.
Post by: webadict on December 25, 2010, 08:06:02 pm
Post by: Mindmaker on December 25, 2010, 08:14:34 pm
No games for you!
I guess that translates into "It'll take some time, until one comes up".
Post by: Leafsnail on December 25, 2010, 08:26:31 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 26, 2010, 01:58:41 am
I had one new idea that might add a bit to the Apprentices: Each school has a minor ability that it grants to those who support it (no matter the alignment of Sorcerers or Apprentices). For example, the Green Sorcerer (Life Magic) from last game could have automatically granted a bonus vote to anyone who supports them, or the like.
Busy through the weekend, but towards the middle / end of next week I could put together enough to at least start signups.
Interest / thoughts?
Post by: Archangel on December 26, 2010, 03:05:31 am
Post by: Ottofar on December 26, 2010, 05:22:56 pm
Post by: Argembarger on December 26, 2010, 05:25:54 pm
Post by: Toaster on December 27, 2010, 09:27:30 am
Post by: webadict on December 27, 2010, 11:06:39 am
Post by: Ottofar on December 27, 2010, 05:09:21 pm
How about Assassin in the palace? (http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Assassin_in_the_Palace)No objections for this one either?
If not, I'll open it on Wednesday or Thursday.
Post by: Zathras on December 27, 2010, 05:15:34 pm
How about Assassin in the palace? (http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Assassin_in_the_Palace)No objections for this one either?
If not, I'll open it on Wednesday or Thursday.
I have an objection: in the very page you link, there's a description on how to break it utterly. If you open it, I hereby (before getting my role) call the town to implement this quicklynching strategy for an almost certain (and quick) win.
Why would you open a game so easy to break? Or am I missing the point?
Post by: Ottofar on December 27, 2010, 05:18:22 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 27, 2010, 07:22:47 pm
Doooooooooorp.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 27, 2010, 07:30:07 pm
That strategy has further downsides in a forum environment. Since EVERYONE should vote for whomever the first person votes, if that first person votes the king must be the assassin. Meaning the first person who gets voted by everyone instead of followed knows he voted the king.
Doooooooooorp.
Since EVERYONE should vote for whomever the first person votes, if that first person votes the king must be the assassin.
if that first person votes the king must be the assassin.
the king must be the assassin.
Lolwat?
Post by: Argembarger on December 27, 2010, 07:37:17 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 27, 2010, 08:21:45 pm
...how about two assassins?Whichever kills the king wins, and if they both kill him at the same time, the kills cancel and nothing happens?
Post by: Mr.Person on December 27, 2010, 08:24:05 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 27, 2010, 08:58:02 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 28, 2010, 04:27:23 am
That strategy has further downsides in a forum environment. Since EVERYONE should vote for whomever the first person votes, if that first person votes the king must be the assassin. Meaning the first person who gets voted by everyone instead of followed knows he voted the king.
Doooooooooorp.Since EVERYONE should vote for whomever the first person votes, if that first person votes the king must be the assassin.if that first person votes the king must be the assassin.the king must be the assassin.
Lolwat?
Fixed it in the post you quoted. Should make sense now.
Also, I like the President and Prime Minister one - each has an assassin. Each leader has X bodyguards (know the identity of ONLY their guy) and there are Y conference security who know both.
Post by: Archangel on December 28, 2010, 04:31:20 am
I could run my version of Squeegy's Werewolf. Would anyone be interested?I'm just going to go ahead with this.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 28, 2010, 12:35:34 pm
Srsly gaiz
Everyone is an assassin and a target. They are also a guard to (SOME NUMBER) of other doodz. Lynchings don't count as kills for teh assassinz.
Post by: Mr.Person on December 28, 2010, 07:51:18 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on December 31, 2010, 09:30:50 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on December 31, 2010, 10:20:25 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on December 31, 2010, 10:26:15 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on January 01, 2011, 03:10:11 am
Post by: Mr.Person on January 01, 2011, 05:12:25 am
What, so lynch the king?
No, just randomly unvote other players every so often.
I'm reminded of one game where not only did a guard put the king a vote away from being lynched, another guard came in an HAMMERED THE KING! Luckily one of the other guards voting for him voted someone else, but still, that was stupid. The assassin wasn't even on the wagon at all. I think we still managed to lose that round.
Post by: Leafsnail on January 01, 2011, 07:28:20 am
And yeah, randomly unvoting players is better, but then the assassin starts being able to get a read. It's kindof the reverse of normal mafia, in that you have an informed majority and an uninformed minority with an easy win condition.
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 01, 2011, 08:31:15 am
What, so lynch the king?
No, just randomly unvote other players every so often.
I'm reminded of one game where not only did a guard put the king a vote away from being lynched, another guard came in an HAMMERED THE KING! Luckily one of the other guards voting for him voted someone else, but still, that was stupid. The assassin wasn't even on the wagon at all. I think we still managed to lose that round.
Yeah. Wuba was the king, I was a guard who was never told who the king was. :I
I still wasn't the one who hammered though.
Post by: webadict on January 01, 2011, 09:04:05 am
Post by: Argembarger on January 04, 2011, 12:19:50 pm
Do we want BM XIX to start? I can mod again.
Post by: Zathras on January 04, 2011, 04:13:43 pm
Also, please put together a list of players, prods and replaces for BMXVIII, and send it to webadict (or post it in the attendance tracking (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=68874.0) thread); I'm sure it'll find its way into the updated list eventually.
Post by: Argembarger on January 05, 2011, 01:29:43 am
Post by: Mr.Person on January 05, 2011, 04:49:53 am
I noticed Leafsnail make a comment on using modkills as extra lynches in Bastard Paranormal. Now of course this is unacceptable, but I'm not advocating punishment or warning or anything since I've done the same thing and Webadict has as well, I think. No, the usual way to dissuade this kind of behavior is simply to make modkilling a townie result in the day ending while modkilling a mafioso or dopp lets the day continue. The basic idea is to have modkills hurt the team of the player getting modkilled so nobody is tempted to use modkills to their advantage. I would suggest all mods use this rule or something like it in all their games.
Post by: Mephansteras on January 05, 2011, 02:00:31 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on January 05, 2011, 02:54:05 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on January 05, 2011, 02:59:05 pm
For my games, if you get modkilled you'll flip like normal, the game will move on, and you won't play in another game I host. Luckily it hasn't happened so far.
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 05, 2011, 06:07:12 pm
Post by: Toaster on January 06, 2011, 04:12:55 pm
What would people like to see? I have a larger (13p) game I've got an idea going around for, I want to try Deep South at some point, I've got another idea that is flexible in terms of size (so it'd be a good choice for a smaller game), or I'm open to suggestion.
Post by: Vector on January 06, 2011, 04:20:25 pm
Oh, and PM me if you have any particularly epic games for the archives! Don't forget!
On the other hand, I think I can safely say the subforum has gotten back on its feet, even if it's moving a bit slowly nowadays. Pretty good.
Post by: Org on January 06, 2011, 04:22:44 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on January 06, 2011, 04:32:55 pm
I am thinking about doing WIFOM Mafia.What does that mean?
Post by: Argembarger on January 06, 2011, 04:33:50 pm
I'm thinking up some fun flavor for it at the moment.
Post by: Org on January 06, 2011, 04:36:54 pm
Might run another Sorcerer's Apprentice with the rule tweaks I mentioned earlier. No comments on them, so either there's no problem or no interest in another. :-\The mafia with the glsses everyone switches around and stuff.I am thinking about doing WIFOM Mafia.What does that mean?
Post by: Zathras on January 06, 2011, 05:02:09 pm
We're back to 0 games in signups. I'll go ahead and volunteer myself to host another- Kingmaker is pretty low maintenance for modding since I don't have to do vote counts.
What would people like to see? I have a larger (13p) game I've got an idea going around for, I want to try Deep South at some point, I've got another idea that is flexible in terms of size (so it'd be a good choice for a smaller game), or I'm open to suggestion.
Well, we do have four largish games going on (five, when Arg starts BM19), so I don't know how many more we want concurrently (I know I can't personally keep up with more than two or three). I'd be interested in playing a role-heavy thing, or the next Sorcerer's Apprentice, or the next Paranormal/Supernatural after Meph is done with the current one.
I also had planned to bring back the Vengeful Mafia series, now that a suitable mourning period for VM5 has passed, but it won't be until next week (assuming interest) or later (if we feel there are enough games for now). Hopefully this time it'll have a better fate.
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 07, 2011, 04:40:41 am
(http://ui18.gamespot.com/2897/whywouldyoudothat_2.jpg)
Why Would You Do That?: A Mafia Misadventure
Every player sends in a text string, image, Trope Page, or whatever - ANYTHING. It will then be their role. Or be incorporated into their role. Or be someone another player's role or incorporated into another player's role. The game will include elements of many other games from the forums. It would be ideally 13 or 15 people. Not Bastard Mod - you'd know your role and your win condition; if appropriate, you'd know your teammates.
I don't intend to even put it in signups until every game I'm in is done. I'll also want Zathras running his LurkerTracker for it.
Post by: Vector on January 07, 2011, 04:50:10 am
AMAZING!
Though I'm wondering if we should quietly retire the gametypes thread.
Post by: Mr.Person on January 07, 2011, 05:02:26 am
I am thinking about doing WIFOM Mafia.
You really like that one, it seems. One of the biggest potential issues is simply that it might be hard for the players to figure out what's going on. I have no idea how to solve that problem without making the town really powerful.
Post by: Org on January 07, 2011, 09:15:48 pm
What.I am thinking about doing WIFOM Mafia.
You really like that one, it seems. One of the biggest potential issues is simply that it might be hard for the players to figure out what's going on. I have no idea how to solve that problem without making the town really powerful.
Edit:Anyway, without making one side over-powered, I think I could reduce the number of poisons the mafia can use at night,
Post by: Org on January 07, 2011, 09:42:48 pm
And, seeing as how Werewolf is canceled and Kingmaker is running, I believe, I think I will skip ahead into sign-ups.
If no one minds, of course.
Post by: webadict on January 07, 2011, 10:00:59 pm
Post by: Zai on January 07, 2011, 10:42:54 pm
Post by: webadict on January 08, 2011, 01:01:49 am
Post by: Ottofar on January 08, 2011, 05:49:18 pm
I'd need help at balancing though.
Post by: JanusTwoface on January 09, 2011, 03:49:49 pm
Any skill level is welcome, so long as you promise to be active and think you can follow what's going on. So far as being active, I have a relatively strict lurking policy (see the Rules section), but so long as you can post one decent post per day / 24 hours, you'll be fine. If you haven't played in Sorcerer's Apprentice before, I strongly recommend reading the previous two rounds for the basic idea.
Previous rounds:
Sorcerer's Apprentice (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=68920.msg1659291#msg1659291)
Sorcerer's Apprentice II (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=70481.msg1714287#msg1714287)
Post by: Mephansteras on January 10, 2011, 05:45:37 pm
We don't look to heavy on games right now, but I'm also not sure how people's schedules look.
Any objections to me throwing it up to sign-ups in the next few days?
Post by: JanusTwoface on January 10, 2011, 05:48:06 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 10, 2011, 11:21:10 pm
Post by: Org on January 10, 2011, 11:22:47 pm
Post by: Archangel on January 11, 2011, 03:05:23 am
How much demand do we have for Why Would You Do That: A Mafia Misadventure right now? If BYOR5.5 continues to be as not-fun as it has been, I might start signups for WWYDT: AMM and then request a replacement in BYOR5.5 if it's still running by WWYDT-o'clockStart it. I might play, and definitely will watch.
Post by: Vector on January 12, 2011, 07:33:55 pm
How much demand do we have for Why Would You Do That: A Mafia Misadventure right now? If BYOR5.5 continues to be as not-fun as it has been, I might start signups for WWYDT: AMM and then request a replacement in BYOR5.5 if it's still running by WWYDT-o'clockStart it. I might play, and definitely will watch.
Fuck it. I'd totally play. I don't have much time, but this is too lulzy to pass up.
Post by: Org on January 12, 2011, 07:37:42 pm
Run it.How much demand do we have for Why Would You Do That: A Mafia Misadventure right now? If BYOR5.5 continues to be as not-fun as it has been, I might start signups for WWYDT: AMM and then request a replacement in BYOR5.5 if it's still running by WWYDT-o'clockStart it. I might play, and definitely will watch.
Fuck it. I'd totally play. I don't have much time, but this is too lulzy to pass up.
Post by: Mephansteras on January 12, 2011, 07:38:31 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on January 13, 2011, 12:52:02 am
Post by: Org on January 13, 2011, 12:53:51 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 13, 2011, 01:32:25 am
Post by: Leafsnail on January 13, 2011, 10:01:49 pm
Post by: Org on January 13, 2011, 10:02:43 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on January 14, 2011, 08:10:39 am
Quicker than WIFOM.
It's not a good idea to post when angry, Org. You need to chillax.
Post by: Org on January 14, 2011, 11:33:22 am
D:Quicker than WIFOM.
It's not a good idea to post when angry, Org. You need to chillax.
Noyou.
Post by: Mephansteras on January 14, 2011, 11:33:52 am
Post by: Zai on January 14, 2011, 09:53:25 pm
I assume people are either busy or bored with mafia at the moment.Busy here. I do skim some ongoing games occasionally though.
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 14, 2011, 11:10:57 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on January 21, 2011, 10:01:01 am
Post by: webadict on January 21, 2011, 10:23:28 am
Say you list out several powers, and each player starts with some amount of points to bid with.
Players would bid certain amounts for the listed powers, and any bids they win would give them that power.
Meh?
Post by: Toaster on January 21, 2011, 11:18:44 am
Might be one for the gametype thread to flesh out.
Post by: webadict on January 21, 2011, 01:04:18 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on January 21, 2011, 01:42:20 pm
- Twitter Mafia - All posts in 140 characters or less, no consecutive posts
- Groundhog Day Mafia - Bastard Mod based on the film (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groundhog_Day_%28film%29)
Thoughts?
Post by: Vector on January 21, 2011, 01:43:05 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on January 21, 2011, 01:50:33 pm
Quote from: Example (with 52 characters)
In #1983 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=45016.msg1902105#msg1902105) JTF is clearly scum because he used a list.
With the '#1983 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=45016.msg1902105#msg1902105)' being five characters.
A little more work for players to click the links, but the posts will be short enough that you should be able to get right to the point.
It's easy enough to get a character count, just use a word editor or online tool (http://www.javascriptkit.com/script/script2/charcount.shtml).
Post by: Toaster on January 21, 2011, 01:54:39 pm
Post by: Vector on January 21, 2011, 01:54:51 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on January 21, 2011, 01:58:11 pm
I'm not sure if gametype specific roles would be better or standard roles. Could be interesting either way.
Post by: Ottofar on January 21, 2011, 02:28:45 pm
Post by: Mindmaker on January 21, 2011, 04:17:27 pm
All posts in 140 characters or less
I already can see the sweat on webadicts forehead...
Post by: RedWarrior0 on January 21, 2011, 04:40:42 pm
Bidding would be interesting and easily doable on IRC.
Post by: webadict on January 21, 2011, 06:16:33 pm
Twitter Bidding Groundhog Day Mafia?That it would. In fact, I kind of want a Bidding IRC Mafia variant.
Bidding would be interesting and easily doable on IRC.
Post by: webadict on January 21, 2011, 06:19:00 pm
... Yeah no. I ain't joining that one.All posts in 140 characters or less
I already can see the sweat on webadicts forehead...
Post by: Mephansteras on January 21, 2011, 06:20:54 pm
So you have a mountainous/near mountainous game that's mostly normal. Except that in addition to the lynch each day you also vote on who gets that day's power. The mod would cycle it, mostly likely, so it'd be something like 'inspect' day 1 and 'roleblock' day two or something like that.
That might make for a really interesting dynamic.
Post by: webadict on January 21, 2011, 06:31:16 pm
That makes me wonder how well a mafia game with a voted power would work.Would they know what power it was?
So you have a mountainous/near mountainous game that's mostly normal. Except that in addition to the lynch each day you also vote on who gets that day's power. The mod would cycle it, mostly likely, so it'd be something like 'inspect' day 1 and 'roleblock' day two or something like that.
That might make for a really interesting dynamic.
Post by: Mephansteras on January 21, 2011, 06:46:34 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on January 21, 2011, 06:59:25 pm
Let's see... there's the credit card in gunfight that already exists for points and purchasing (though limiting supply needs to be done), and you could probably just modify the voting code to have the bids work out.Twitter Bidding Groundhog Day Mafia?That it would. In fact, I kind of want a Bidding IRC Mafia variant.
Bidding would be interesting and easily doable on IRC.
Post by: Zai on January 21, 2011, 07:19:21 pm
That makes me wonder how well a mafia game with a voted power would work.This would be neat.
So you have a mountainous/near mountainous game that's mostly normal. Except that in addition to the lynch each day you also vote on who gets that day's power. The mod would cycle it, mostly likely, so it'd be something like 'inspect' day 1 and 'roleblock' day two or something like that.
That might make for a really interesting dynamic.
Post by: Leafsnail on January 21, 2011, 07:58:25 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on January 21, 2011, 08:10:02 pm
Or the possibility that the power is a mirror. "Kill hi-ohshi"
Post by: Ottofar on January 22, 2011, 10:02:10 am
Post by: Ottofar on January 24, 2011, 03:26:09 pm
If I did Bring Your Own Song Mafia?Will I or won't I?
Would anyone be interested?
Post by: webadict on January 24, 2011, 03:41:37 pm
Except you have to choose the song "Don't Fear the Reaper".
Everyone.
Post by: Mr.Person on January 24, 2011, 03:57:32 pm
Post by: Toaster on January 24, 2011, 04:04:41 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 25, 2011, 12:43:38 pm
Post by: Vector on January 26, 2011, 09:00:45 am
It's pissing me off.
Post by: webadict on January 26, 2011, 09:04:38 am
Query: does anyone seem to know why in the potato (shut it, I'm tired) so many people seem to be skipping the threshold list and just going "Ooh, I'll start a game of Mafia! I don't even know what it is, but I want to run it?"Wait, did you mean "start a new game"? OKAY!
It's pissing me off.
I'd say that mostly it's because they're new, and therefore don't recognize the Threshold list as a place to wait in line for a chance to mod. They also don't realize the amount of effort it might take to run a game either, having not played one, so they do it without thinking.
Just give them a reminder. They don't know the rules.
EDIT: Also, I'll add BYOR 6 to the list.
Post by: Vector on January 26, 2011, 09:08:07 am
Also, I am 21 and have been awake for a long, long time. I can't sleep for another 9 hours~
Post by: webadict on January 26, 2011, 09:10:18 am
You have mellowed like a super-mellow thing, Wubby <3I am merely not angry. Although, if Archangel were involved, then I might not be so mellow.
Also, I am 21 and have been awake for a long, long time. I can't sleep for another 9 hours~
Which I guess reminds me...
Post by: Toaster on January 26, 2011, 11:46:44 am
Post by: webadict on January 26, 2011, 01:00:13 pm
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on January 26, 2011, 01:44:19 pm
- Closed setup
- 12-16 players
- 3-4 scum
- 66 possible roles
- ???
- Profit.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on January 26, 2011, 03:24:39 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on January 26, 2011, 09:04:38 pm
On the topic of ill-advised video game based mafias, however, I've come up with how Roguelike Mafia would work. "Poorly" for the most part, but also probably hilariously and awesome, for the parts where it wasn't crashing and burning.
Spoiler: Why Would You Even (click to show/hide)
Post by: webadict on January 26, 2011, 09:24:02 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on January 26, 2011, 10:47:36 pm
Would you win instantly if you got the Amulet of Yendor?
No, you need to get to end of the game with it so you can sacrifice it. Or, if you're like me, give it to the wrong god.
@IronyOwl:
That doesn't sound much like a roguelike mafia to me. Seems to me that roguelike mafia would involve lots of magic items (abilities). Your killer gets to keep your magic items when they kill you. Lynched players have their items disappear although they're all revealed to the rest of the game. Players not happy with their items or who have used all theirs up can go questing for more. Note that sometimes you find more than just items. For instance, you might not get anything at all for various reasons or find a special level such as a bones level that lets you talk to a lynched player and take their stuff or a treasure vault that contains several items.. with a risk of dying!
Magic items can be passive or active. Generally active abilities will be consumables, although there will be various rare artifacts that can do impressive things night after night.
Oh, and permadeath. No revives.
Post by: Zathras on January 26, 2011, 11:02:15 pm
Do you want your possessions identified? [ynq]
...and load bones files from earlier games.
I love it already...
Post by: Toaster on January 26, 2011, 11:08:35 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on January 26, 2011, 11:09:35 pm
@IronyOwl:Yeah, that was sort of the idea behind the rotating multiple-slot roles thing. Trouble is, there's only so many standard night actions a mafia game can handle, which was why I was thinking it'd have to get more convoluted and specific.
That doesn't sound much like a roguelike mafia to me. Seems to me that roguelike mafia would involve lots of magic items (abilities). Your killer gets to keep your magic items when they kill you. Lynched players have their items disappear although they're all revealed to the rest of the game. Players not happy with their items or who have used all theirs up can go questing for more. Note that sometimes you find more than just items. For instance, you might not get anything at all for various reasons or find a special level such as a bones level that lets you talk to a lynched player and take their stuff or a treasure vault that contains several items.. with a risk of dying!
Magic items can be passive or active. Generally active abilities will be consumables, although there will be various rare artifacts that can do impressive things night after night.
Oh, and permadeath. No revives.
You have been lynched... --More--Hm... a continuously recruiting mafia game that doesn't end until one player attains enough godlike power to crush any and all opposition indefinitely...
Do you want your possessions identified? [ynq]
...and load bones files from earlier games.
I love it already...
Post by: webadict on January 26, 2011, 11:21:24 pm
So, King of the Mafia?@IronyOwl:Yeah, that was sort of the idea behind the rotating multiple-slot roles thing. Trouble is, there's only so many standard night actions a mafia game can handle, which was why I was thinking it'd have to get more convoluted and specific.
That doesn't sound much like a roguelike mafia to me. Seems to me that roguelike mafia would involve lots of magic items (abilities). Your killer gets to keep your magic items when they kill you. Lynched players have their items disappear although they're all revealed to the rest of the game. Players not happy with their items or who have used all theirs up can go questing for more. Note that sometimes you find more than just items. For instance, you might not get anything at all for various reasons or find a special level such as a bones level that lets you talk to a lynched player and take their stuff or a treasure vault that contains several items.. with a risk of dying!
Magic items can be passive or active. Generally active abilities will be consumables, although there will be various rare artifacts that can do impressive things night after night.
Oh, and permadeath. No revives.You have been lynched... --More--Hm... a continuously recruiting mafia game that doesn't end until one player attains enough godlike power to crush any and all opposition indefinitely...
Do you want your possessions identified? [ynq]
...and load bones files from earlier games.
I love it already...
Post by: Mr.Person on January 26, 2011, 11:47:04 pm
Emperor liches, cyberdemons, and twenty-headed hydra, oh my!
Don't forget giant ants and chess pieces.
@IronyOwl:Yeah, that was sort of the idea behind the rotating multiple-slot roles thing. Trouble is, there's only so many standard night actions a mafia game can handle, which was why I was thinking it'd have to get more convoluted and specific.
That doesn't sound much like a roguelike mafia to me. Seems to me that roguelike mafia would involve lots of magic items (abilities). Your killer gets to keep your magic items when they kill you. Lynched players have their items disappear although they're all revealed to the rest of the game. Players not happy with their items or who have used all theirs up can go questing for more. Note that sometimes you find more than just items. For instance, you might not get anything at all for various reasons or find a special level such as a bones level that lets you talk to a lynched player and take their stuff or a treasure vault that contains several items.. with a risk of dying!
Magic items can be passive or active. Generally active abilities will be consumables, although there will be various rare artifacts that can do impressive things night after night.
Oh, and permadeath. No revives.
There's plenty of things you can give players, just look at any of Webadict's BYORs. Just give mostly consumables and an occasional passive and a rare artifact or two and everything works fine. Maybe limit each player to a max of 3 items at a time if you're worried about players just constantly questing to get a cool artifact or something.
Post by: Toaster on January 27, 2011, 12:03:37 am
Each player can choose to quest for something new or randomly loot a dead person's item during the day. At day end, they either get a new item or something dropped by a dead one.
Items:
Common: Average one shot powers (inspect/roleblock/protect)
Uncommon: Midrange passives/stronger one shots (RB immunity, one shot kill/revive)
Rare: Permanent active abilities/day oneshots (basic roles, one-shot daykill)
Artifact: Multiple abilities- often both good and bad (Kill Immune but takes one less vote to lynch)
Something like a 45/30/20/5 percent drop rate on rarities. For balance reasons, make it successively harder to get items past the second, something like a 2/N% chance of success. You could drop items you didn't like at dawn- they would go in "dead player item" pool.
There shouldn't be an indication of what items are in the dead player item pool, but perhaps a count of them.
Everyone gets a common item to start with.
Post by: IronyOwl on January 27, 2011, 12:15:43 am
Quest for items, avoid cyber-demon chess pieces, try to figure out who's a Dark Adventurer and who's town.
Post by: Toaster on January 27, 2011, 09:22:33 am
It'll still be mafia- there will be a informed minority and an uninformed majority.
Post by: webadict on January 27, 2011, 04:26:34 pm
Post by: webadict on January 27, 2011, 07:42:36 pm
Post by: Org on January 27, 2011, 08:12:28 pm
Post by: webadict on January 27, 2011, 08:22:53 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on January 27, 2011, 08:28:50 pm
Post by: Zathras on January 27, 2011, 08:32:57 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on January 27, 2011, 08:37:40 pm
I'd suggest waiting a bit, until at least one of Supernatural, BYOR5.5 or Sorcerer's wind down, as that'd free the most interested players I think. Maybe give WWYDT a chance to kick off first...Considering ~80% of the active subforum is in that, I agree.
Post by: webadict on January 27, 2011, 08:43:31 pm
I'd suggest waiting a bit, until at least one of Supernatural, BYOR5.5 or Sorcerer's wind down, as that'd free the most interested players I think. Maybe give WWYDT a chance to kick off first...I'm not starting it until after BYOR 5.5 ends. This is preemptively destroying waiting time.
Post by: Vector on January 27, 2011, 09:08:31 pm
I'd suggest waiting a bit, until at least one of Supernatural, BYOR5.5 or Sorcerer's wind down, as that'd free the most interested players I think. Maybe give WWYDT a chance to kick off first...I'm not starting it until after BYOR 5.5 ends. This is preemptively destroying waiting time.
I would wait. I think we need a good gap between the beginning of 5.5 and 6, because ... well, frankly, 5.5 isn't working that well and has needed a number of replacements, and we're about to start WWYDT, which is a similar style of game (and also going to eat much of your player base's attention span for the next, oh, while. It's not nice to compete between similar games... :I
Actually, what the subforum needs about now is another Paranormal, whenever Supernatural (or whatever JTF's game is) finishes.
Post by: webadict on January 27, 2011, 09:11:08 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on January 27, 2011, 10:01:27 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on January 27, 2011, 10:11:15 pm
Post by: Vector on January 27, 2011, 10:19:56 pm
Post by: webadict on January 27, 2011, 10:41:27 pm
To be more specific: I don't think the board can handle more than one BYOR-style game at a time.Well, if that's so, then I'll be fine making roles with what I get until I have a full game. It's not like I can't hold sign-ups. WWYDT has plenty of people, plus actually has a few replacements just in case, one of which is me. That will have gotten to at least the end of Day 2 by the time I start, and I'm pretty sure I can't steal people that are already signed up.
Plus, Paranormal is not a BYOR type game. Power-loaded: yes, but that's it. So, again, it's a different audience.
So, stop worrying. I can't steal an audience because I'm holding my play on a totally different day.
Post by: Mr.Person on January 27, 2011, 10:53:34 pm
Or is that just me?
Post by: Toaster on January 27, 2011, 11:32:22 pm
Spoiler: Just go to the gametypes thread! (click to show/hide)
Post by: Vector on January 27, 2011, 11:33:08 pm
Post by: Toaster on January 27, 2011, 11:35:59 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on January 27, 2011, 11:40:17 pm
It's more that the people who want to play BYOR generally also want to play Paranormal.I don't know about anyone else, but I don't particularly care for BYORs. Tend to be too chaotic. Fun to read, but less to play. Will play Paranormal / Supernatural though.
Or is that just me?
Post by: Mephansteras on February 02, 2011, 06:07:33 pm
What should I do next? Paranormal or Supernatural?
Post by: Zathras on February 02, 2011, 06:11:01 pm
...then again, I'm partial. I've won every paranormal, but got my ass handed out to me in supernatural in humiliating fashion. I'll in for either, though.
Post by: Jim Groovester on February 02, 2011, 06:14:38 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 02, 2011, 06:16:16 pm
Post by: Jack A T on February 02, 2011, 06:55:01 pm
Post by: webadict on February 02, 2011, 07:24:13 pm
Pre-in for next Paranormal whenever it happens.
Post by: Org on February 02, 2011, 07:25:09 pm
I'd like a crack at Supernatural again.
Post by: IronyOwl on February 02, 2011, 07:31:54 pm
I regretted not joining the last one.I'd like a crack at Supernatural again.
Post by: Toaster on February 02, 2011, 07:47:22 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 02, 2011, 07:55:56 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on February 02, 2011, 10:48:32 pm
Post by: webadict on February 02, 2011, 10:58:47 pm
I vote Unreal Mafia.i votes Imaginary Mafia.
*ba dum tish*
Post by: Vector on February 02, 2011, 11:04:28 pm
Post by: webadict on February 02, 2011, 11:11:29 pm
I vote Complex Mafia.Let's not add anything more to Imaginary Mafia.
Post by: Argembarger on February 02, 2011, 11:59:22 pm
If they end up as a real number, they were imaginary scum.
If not, they were innocent.
Either way, they're out for the game.
Post by: Vector on February 03, 2011, 01:31:24 pm
I am not even kidding.
Post by: Mephansteras on February 03, 2011, 01:33:46 pm
Post by: webadict on February 03, 2011, 01:34:06 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 03, 2011, 01:34:55 pm
What have we been eating?!?The WINE I'd guess...
Post by: Vector on February 03, 2011, 01:36:34 pm
What have we been eating?!?
Garlic tea with three cloves of raw garlic, a banana, and a bowl of fried rice.
Thanks for asking :3
Post by: Mephansteras on February 03, 2011, 01:37:31 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 03, 2011, 09:31:12 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on February 03, 2011, 10:19:50 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 03, 2011, 10:21:51 pm
Post by: Argembarger on February 04, 2011, 10:07:03 am
I've been looking at some of the more recent games and we need a BM ASAP.
I am not even kidding.
Hey, Jokerman, sounds like a good game for you to run!
Ah too late I just made it.
If Joker wants to mod it though, I'll step down and he can make the game-thread once signups close.
Post by: Toaster on February 04, 2011, 05:25:59 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on February 04, 2011, 05:54:40 pm
Post by: Toaster on February 04, 2011, 11:50:24 pm
Post by: webadict on February 05, 2011, 12:57:14 pm
Post by: Argembarger on February 05, 2011, 03:01:33 pm
Post by: webadict on February 05, 2011, 05:19:33 pm
Post by: Zai on February 08, 2011, 10:54:41 pm
Post by: webadict on February 08, 2011, 10:58:35 pm
What's with the recent trend of new people just posting threads here and including inadequate information about their games?join mafia mafia.
so like i put mafia in your mafia, so you can lynch scum while you lynch scum
sign-ups!!!!1111 I'll probably want about 1000 people, but ill take mor if theyre is moar.
Post by: Eduren on February 09, 2011, 07:39:09 pm
I was going to start it tonight, but if I had to i can wait until tomorow after schoolWhat's with the recent trend of new people just posting threads here and including inadequate information about their games?join mafia mafia.
so like i put mafia in your mafia, so you can lynch scum while you lynch scum
sign-ups!!!!1111 I'll probably want about 1000 people, but ill take mor if theyre is moar.
Post by: Zai on February 09, 2011, 07:43:07 pm
This sounds good game. I can join?I was going to start it tonight, but if I had to i can wait until tomorow after schoolWhat's with the recent trend of new people just posting threads here and including inadequate information about their games?join mafia mafia.
so like i put mafia in your mafia, so you can lynch scum while you lynch scum
sign-ups!!!!1111 I'll probably want about 1000 people, but ill take mor if theyre is moar.
Post by: Eduren on February 09, 2011, 07:45:01 pm
This sounds good game. I can join?I was going to start it tonight, but if I had to i can wait until tomorow after schoolWhat's with the recent trend of new people just posting threads here and including inadequate information about their games?join mafia mafia.
so like i put mafia in your mafia, so you can lynch scum while you lynch scum
sign-ups!!!!1111 I'll probably want about 1000 people, but ill take mor if theyre is moar.
Okay, figured it out.
Post by: Eduren on February 09, 2011, 07:45:20 pm
Post by: Eduren on February 09, 2011, 07:46:11 pm
Post by: Zai on February 09, 2011, 07:48:14 pm
How I edit?I dontnow but I'm fine with
EDIT: Oops. Accidentally included my role in post. But I figured out how editting works so is good. There is a button in top right of every post. You click that and magic is happening.
Post by: Eduren on February 09, 2011, 07:52:59 pm
Post by: Zai on February 09, 2011, 07:57:24 pm
Press circled area! quick!
Post by: Eduren on February 09, 2011, 07:59:35 pm
Post by: Zai on February 09, 2011, 08:00:37 pm
When we start?
Post by: Eduren on February 09, 2011, 08:01:49 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on February 09, 2011, 08:14:43 pm
Post by: webadict on February 09, 2011, 08:16:07 pm
my mom wnats me to do homwork tonigh so im as starting tomorrrow.lol, i pay but i am megaman but he is frum space and he shuts rocketz that shooot mor rockets htat shot LAZERS!
Post by: Eduren on February 09, 2011, 08:21:17 pm
you get to be vanila townemy mom wnats me to do homwork tonigh so im as starting tomorrrow.lol, i pay but i am megaman but he is frum space and he shuts rocketz that shooot mor rockets htat shot LAZERS!
Post by: webadict on February 09, 2011, 08:23:47 pm
how i shot lazerz?you get to be vanila townemy mom wnats me to do homwork tonigh so im as starting tomorrrow.lol, i pay but i am megaman but he is frum space and he shuts rocketz that shooot mor rockets htat shot LAZERS!
Post by: Eduren on February 09, 2011, 08:24:17 pm
Post by: webadict on February 09, 2011, 08:27:05 pm
no, u vanila. No lazersthat maeks on snese cuz im megaman frum space that shot misille lazers!!!! also i am reaaly strong an can litf big tings and than through them throw stufs and i can shot mafa and win!!!!!111!!
Post by: Mr.Person on February 09, 2011, 08:30:55 pm
Post by: Zai on February 09, 2011, 08:32:07 pm
Everyone point and laugh at Zai for not using the black background.i no no how change backgorunds! i new! black backgrund is not available to me.
@webadcit you need to just except the role you wer given man. i did with mine (but i not telling what it is)
Post by: webadict on February 09, 2011, 08:36:24 pm
megaman is a pretty cool guy eh shoots lasers and doesnt afraid of anythinghe is da bestest charactre ever and he is my fav character evar yeah he is so coool he is never afradi of stuff liek sometimes i am but than i am like megaman would shot lazers so i shot lazers!!! that is why i am megaman but this 1 is frum space cuz he than i m orignial an i can also shot rokcets that shot MOAR ROKETS!!! but not lik team rocket cuz thats pokemon witch is also cool if i was charizard cuz he is liek a dragon but SOOOOOO COOOOLLLL!!!!!
that stupid how bout i be charizard?!? he is SUPR EFFECTIVEQ!!!!Everyone point and laugh at Zai for not using the black background.i no no how change backgorunds! i new! black backgrund is not available to me.
@webadcit you need to just except the role you wer given man. i did with mine (but i not telling what it is)
Post by: Zai on February 09, 2011, 08:42:50 pm
NO MAN. JUST EXCEPT IT. and b-sides, chairzard only super effective aginst bulbasaur@webadcit you need to just except the role you wer given man. i did with mine (but i not telling what it is)that stupid how bout i be charizard?!? he is SUPR EFFECTIVEQ!!!!
Post by: webadict on February 09, 2011, 08:47:57 pm
bulbasaur moer like bulbastupit cuz he iz liek the stupidtest pokemn EVERERERERERERERER!@#!@#$!@$!$NO MAN. JUST EXCEPT IT. and b-sides, chairzard only super effective aginst bulbasaur@webadcit you need to just except the role you wer given man. i did with mine (but i not telling what it is)that stupid how bout i be charizard?!? he is SUPR EFFECTIVEQ!!!!
i use fire attack on zai. he brust in2 flam and diez cuz he is stupid like blubasaure he probly is bulbsaud
Post by: Toaster on February 09, 2011, 08:48:54 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 09, 2011, 08:49:51 pm
Post by: Zai on February 09, 2011, 08:50:59 pm
i use fire attack on zai. he brust in2 flam and diez cuz he is stupid like blubasaure he probly is bulbsaudi m not roelplaing with u. u use god mode to much for anyfun
WUBA WUBA WUBA
WUBA WUBA WUBAYou too don make sens mak mor sense or be quite
Post by: webadict on February 09, 2011, 08:55:42 pm
lol u r dum i am CARIZARD! i eat ppl and than i use megaultradeth cuz i teached it 2my charizard and no he nows it and it does 92139571289563458912375892374032947 dmg and u r dead u r just a babi and charazeard ATES BABIES $ BRAKEFAST!!!!!!! omnomnom u got eated.i use fire attack on zai. he brust in2 flam and diez cuz he is stupid like blubasaure he probly is bulbsaudi m not roelplaing with u. u use god mode to much for anyfun
Post by: Argembarger on February 10, 2011, 02:25:03 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on February 10, 2011, 02:27:28 pm
...sigged?
Why did you put a question mark here?
Post by: Argembarger on February 10, 2011, 02:29:39 pm
Also, it's incredibly silly.
Post by: Mephansteras on February 10, 2011, 02:35:24 pm
Can we please split this off? It's starting to be a bit much for this thread.
On a mafia games related note, what would people think about an RP heavy Supernatural game at some point? I know we normally don't do RP since it makes the game a little more challenging, but I've been in some really good RP heavy games on the Sluggy boards in the past and had a blast. I think it'd be a nice change of pace from our usual games.
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 10, 2011, 02:43:10 pm
I'm intrigued, but I've never seen an example of a mafia game with RP before.
Post by: Jim Groovester on February 10, 2011, 02:57:39 pm
Post by: Argembarger on February 10, 2011, 02:59:47 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on February 10, 2011, 03:58:35 pm
And, yes, Roleplay is required. Pretty much all of the mafiaesque games over there are RP heavy and it works quite well. The Werewolf games over there were actually my introduction to mafia back in 2003 or so.
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 10, 2011, 04:06:47 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on February 10, 2011, 04:09:51 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on February 10, 2011, 04:45:35 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on February 10, 2011, 04:47:46 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on February 10, 2011, 04:51:13 pm
Post by: Toaster on February 10, 2011, 04:53:05 pm
Post by: Book on February 10, 2011, 06:17:48 pm
Here is an example (http://www.sluggy.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=12427) I was involved in.
And, yes, Roleplay is required. Pretty much all of the mafiaesque games over there are RP heavy and it works quite well. The Werewolf games over there were actually my introduction to mafia back in 2003 or so.
Woah, indeed. I'm generally down with some roleplaying, but that seems a bit... excessive. Still, I'll certainly in and give it an honest shot. I'll try anything once (as they say: "once, a philosopher; twice, a pervert").
I'd probably like it better if it had some additional impact, like the Roll-to-Dodge flavour that was used in a couple of bastard games before my times. That was fun and gave strong incentive to roleplay on top of the finding scum stuff. It was a bit unforgiving, though, I'd probably tweak it to give a "sufficient/satisfactory" result on 2, and critical failures don't outright kill you... but you're the balance guy.
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 11, 2011, 12:14:23 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 11, 2011, 03:31:48 am
I'd probably like it better if it had some additional impactYou walk a dangerous road.
See BYOR Choices and KWN: Dakarian Addition for details on Things That Can Go Wrong.
Post by: webadict on February 11, 2011, 08:32:14 am
Yeeeeaaah. Too bad BYOR: Choices never finished. I was just about to win that game.I'd probably like it better if it had some additional impactYou walk a dangerous road.
See BYOR Choices and KWN: Dakarian Addition for details on Things That Can Go Wrong.
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 11, 2011, 01:18:45 pm
(I want to break the cycle of running role heavy games in parallel with Mephansteras. I'll probably run another Sorcerer's Apprentice at some point, but I'll wait until the next Paranormal is underway).
Basically, it's a standard Mafia game with a post restriction. The goal is to teach people to scum hunt and get their point across in a concise manner. (No walls of text)
Spoiler: Twitter Mafia (click to show/hide)
Would there be enough interest to put into signups?
Post by: Toaster on February 11, 2011, 01:45:25 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 11, 2011, 01:58:55 pm
I'm probably going with 3 strikes or 1 blatant abuse and you're out.
Post by: webadict on February 11, 2011, 01:59:23 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 11, 2011, 02:03:29 pm
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 11, 2011, 03:24:39 pm
It'd basically be a place for newbies to ask questions in a non-game environment, or before they join a game, and for more experienced players to discuss strategy.
Just an interest check first though, so I don't wind up making a thread no-one uses.
Post by: webadict on February 11, 2011, 04:09:49 pm
What would you guys think about a Mafia Questions and Meta thread?If you have a questions thread, it should probably be updated with important questions going to the OP, and other questions can be asked at will. Which I am for.
It'd basically be a place for newbies to ask questions in a non-game environment, or before they join a game, and for more experienced players to discuss strategy.
Just an interest check first though, so I don't wind up making a thread no-one uses.
Post by: Mephansteras on February 11, 2011, 04:12:30 pm
Post by: Darvi on February 11, 2011, 04:18:46 pm
- Basic Mafia rules and roles
- Describing scummy behaviour (some people around here don't notice it if it would stab them in the face >_>)
- How to identify WIFOM situations and how to deal with them
- What to do in case of a bandwagon
- What to do if you're being accused
- How to deal with Org (optional)
And maybe some other stuff.
Post by: Jim Groovester on February 11, 2011, 04:19:47 pm
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on February 11, 2011, 04:23:33 pm
Twitter Mafia might be kind of interesting, but not really my thing.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on February 11, 2011, 05:54:35 pm
Post by: Book on February 11, 2011, 05:58:37 pm
Post by: Eduren on February 11, 2011, 07:32:59 pm
- How to deal with Org (optional)Not optional.
Post by: Org on February 11, 2011, 07:34:12 pm
U mad- How to deal with Org (optional)Not optional.
Post by: SaintDraze on February 12, 2011, 05:09:10 pm
Its a paranoia themed mafia =D
http://www.crd-sector.com/explain.htm
Post by: Darvi on February 12, 2011, 07:57:26 pm
(I think it would be awesome :3)
Post by: Ottofar on February 13, 2011, 02:40:27 pm
Normal mafia, with a Chessboard. 7-day days, nightless, as in all actions must be sent in before day changes, and the Board updates daily.
Any interest?
Post by: Mindmaker on February 13, 2011, 02:41:58 pm
Normal mafia, with a Chessboard.
How is that supposed to work?
Post by: Ottofar on February 13, 2011, 02:52:48 pm
Plus Scum v. Town chess game.
Losing either means losing the game.
Post by: Leafsnail on February 13, 2011, 02:56:33 pm
Post by: Ottofar on February 13, 2011, 03:26:17 pm
Maybe 12 players.
Won't take longer than a normal game.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on February 13, 2011, 06:47:52 pm
Saboteur: You are a *Serial Killer*. You have infiltrated the *Mafia*. Your goal is *Stalemate*
Post by: SaintDraze on February 14, 2011, 03:19:34 pm
I want to start a mafia game... can you put mafia on the planned list?
Its a paranoia themed mafia =D
http://www.crd-sector.com/explain.htm
So how many people want to play a paranoia themed mafia?
I could handle 9 people...probably...
how about a teaser?
After an absurd amount of bickering you leave the Alpha complex and set upon your task of trouble checking a far off location in the Zanzabar sector...
After several days of travel you arrive...
Or atleast you think you have...
The Computer has sent you, not to the zanzabar sector to deal with muntant scum but to a derelict building much farther from the communities gaze than you have ever thought possible...
But, as you know, the computer never makes mistakes... So you go inside the ruined building...
You find that the door is unhinged from the entry way as it crashes down Billowing a cloud of dust and particle board fragments.
As the dust clears you see a gleam in the dark and try to react, But fail miserably as you get shot by a security drone Who is fortunately armed with only sleep darts...
Hours later your entire team wakes up to the voice of the computer informing you that it is time for some group interrogating as it has found out that there are communists in amidst your team...
Since you are a team of trouble shooters that were supposedly incorruptible and uninfiltratable, the computer sets the task of rooting out corruption to the team itself...
Post by: Darvi on February 14, 2011, 03:22:01 pm
Post by: SaintDraze on February 14, 2011, 03:27:31 pm
I'l come up with crazy shit later :D
Post by: SaintDraze on February 15, 2011, 10:16:40 am
Post by: Argembarger on February 15, 2011, 10:24:23 am
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 15, 2011, 02:29:06 pm
Post by: Darvi on February 15, 2011, 04:18:10 pm
Post by: Vector on February 15, 2011, 04:46:33 pm
Post by: webadict on February 15, 2011, 04:50:48 pm
... What?I... don't know.
Post by: Darvi on February 15, 2011, 04:51:35 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on February 15, 2011, 04:53:26 pm
Dude's being really uncooperative and stuff. Just my stupid opinion though.
Still have no idea who you're talking about or what game. Not that this is the place for it, though. For a particular game, you should either lynch the person or PM the mod about it.
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 15, 2011, 04:54:47 pm
I think we should replace that one guy in that one mafia :/ Wouldn't be fun otherwise.If it's about an ongoing game that you're in, bring it up there. If it's about an ongoing game that you're not in, leave it to the mod / players that are in the game.
PPE: What Mephansteras said.
Post by: Vector on February 15, 2011, 05:05:16 pm
Eh, that's for after the game ends, though.
Post by: Darvi on February 15, 2011, 05:07:04 pm
Anybody volunteer for GM?
Post by: webadict on February 15, 2011, 05:10:10 pm
BUT I ALSO GET BM XXX! I have called it.
Post by: Darvi on February 15, 2011, 05:11:20 pm
Post by: webadict on February 15, 2011, 05:15:35 pm
Don't wanna know what the theme for that one will be *g*I hope you'll enjoy it.
>:D
Post by: Darvi on February 15, 2011, 05:16:02 pm
Post by: Vector on February 15, 2011, 05:25:39 pm
Post by: Darvi on February 15, 2011, 05:30:20 pm
But hey, it sometimes happens that it seems like I'm talking to the air. It's a good listener :D
Post by: Vector on February 15, 2011, 05:32:29 pm
Post by: Darvi on February 15, 2011, 05:35:42 pm
Post by: webadict on February 15, 2011, 05:53:52 pm
Actually, I now have no idea as to who Darvi is talking about, so I'll just say that I'm still disappointed in the newbies around here and will probably be flinging myself into the next BYOR.You're always welcome, Vector. Plus, it'll probably start before WWYDT. :P
Also, what's wrong with the newbies?
I was talking to webaddict, and I have a specific idea as to what he'll do for BM XXX.I promise it'll be fine.
But hey, it sometimes happens that it seems like I'm talking to the air. It's a good listener :D
Post by: Vector on February 15, 2011, 05:57:23 pm
Post by: Darvi on February 15, 2011, 05:57:36 pm
Edit: yeah, that too.
Post by: Mephansteras on February 15, 2011, 05:59:55 pm
I've been looking at a couple of games and it seems like we have some weird relationship of newbies to old-timers... anyway, I feel like fewer people are coming out of BMs with an idea of how to really scumhunt. We're transmitting the form, but not the function, and without reasoning all "scum-hunting" just looks like a charade.
Hmmm. Sounds like our ICs need to do a better job teaching people.
Post by: Zai on February 15, 2011, 06:00:06 pm
[EDIT:] ...Not in response to Meph.
Post by: webadict on February 15, 2011, 06:01:56 pm
I've been looking at a couple of games and it seems like we have some weird relationship of newbies to old-timers... anyway, I feel like fewer people are coming out of BMs with an idea of how to really scumhunt. We're transmitting the form, but not the function, and without reasoning all "scum-hunting" just looks like a charade.I think we should change the format in BM to allow the 2 ICs to play. I think the only reason it was changed in the first place was because I won. But, I thought that all of the people playing with me learned a thing or two about Mafia.
Plus, I stopped being so angry. A little.
How about we keep discussion of ongoing games in their respective threads? I LIKE THAT IDEAI think this is a good place. It's about Beginner's Mafia, which doesn't seem to bring in enough new players with an idea of how to play. Vector knows a fair amount about what she talks about, so I tend to listen to her.
[EDIT:] ...Not in response to Meph.
Who else thinks BMs need playing ICs?
Post by: Darvi on February 15, 2011, 06:03:10 pm
Post by: webadict on February 15, 2011, 06:04:48 pm
Wouldn't be bad. You know, so that newbies see how they do it.You're a newbie. Would you feel like you could play with someone that is experienced, who is also trying to teach you how to play?
Post by: Darvi on February 15, 2011, 06:07:13 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 15, 2011, 06:07:44 pm
I've been looking at a couple of games and it seems like we have some weird relationship of newbies to old-timers... anyway, I feel like fewer people are coming out of BMs with an idea of how to really scumhunt. We're transmitting the form, but not the function, and without reasoning all "scum-hunting" just looks like a charade.It is weird and a problem. In mixed games, newer players have a tendency to get shut down and not come back. There's a few players that yell more than others and lynch newer players on Day 1. Neither is terribly helpful towards keeping people around.
Plus, I stopped being so angry. A little.A very little. :-\
Wouldn't be bad. You know, so that newbies see how they do it.The biggest problem I have with it is then you run the risk of getting clones of players and behaviors that are problematic of themselves. I've said it before, one webadict (as just one example) is plenty.
Post by: Darvi on February 15, 2011, 06:09:19 pm
Post by: Zai on February 15, 2011, 06:16:55 pm
That's not what I'm talking about. This is pretty much the BM-planning thread. I was talking about Darvi complaining about how CERTAIN PEOPLE are playing in CERTAIN ONGOING GAMES.How about we keep discussion of ongoing games in their respective threads? I LIKE THAT IDEAI think this is a good place. It's about Beginner's Mafia
Post by: Book on February 15, 2011, 06:18:11 pm
Post by: Vector on February 15, 2011, 06:18:26 pm
The return of the mountainous could also be good, because the older players love those and would probably populate them a good amount of the way, but the newer players would be able to get a good deal out of both the pedagogy and the not-so-insane setups.
Basically, I think there's multiple factors going on here. We need new setups and we need a new IC system.
That said, the playing ICs should not be the board's experts. They should be the advanced-to-intermediate players like IronyOwl and Toaster, because I remember that last time I was in a BM it ended very, very badly. That, and the most skilled players tend to affect a lot of bad habits because they don't need to play perfectly, or in an attempt to lay traps (example: Solifuge). Folks with nice straightforward town games are the ones we need ICing.
Dakarian would've been great, but... he's gone now... anyway, that class of careful player, not sloppy ones.
Post by: webadict on February 15, 2011, 06:22:28 pm
You can balance this out, you know. Have a certain player paired up with another, so they each show different ways of scumhunting. Plus, they can tell people when they're doing it wrong.Wouldn't be bad. You know, so that newbies see how they do it.The biggest problem I have with it is then you run the risk of getting clones of players and behaviors that are problematic of themselves. I've said it before, one webadict (as just one example) is plenty.
But, the tricky part is that they'd have to learn how to teach people to play, while also playing. IC that are playing are more involved in the game, but also need to realize that the game is intended as a learning exercise. I would never yell at a newbie the same way I yell at someone that's played and knows what they're doing.
My bad. I was talking about other things.That's not what I'm talking about. This is pretty much the BM-planning thread. I was talking about Darvi complaining about how CERTAIN PEOPLE are playing in CERTAIN ONGOING GAMES.How about we keep discussion of ongoing games in their respective threads? I LIKE THAT IDEAI think this is a good place. It's about Beginner's Mafia
Yeah, playing ICs could be good. I remember the first time I was accused of scum... lordy, that was terrible, but after it ended everything got easier.No need for nostalgia. There have been many that were good.
The return of the mountainous could also be good, because the older players love those and would probably populate them a good amount of the way, but the newer players would be able to get a good deal out of both the pedagogy and the not-so-insane setups.
Basically, I think there's multiple factors going on here. We need new setups and we need a new IC system.
That said, the playing ICs should not be the board's experts. They should be the advanced-to-intermediate players like IronyOwl and Toaster, because I remember that last time I was in a BM it ended very, very badly. That, and the most skilled players tend to affect a lot of bad habits because they don't need to play perfectly, or in an attempt to lay traps (example: Solifuge). Folks with nice straightforward town games are the ones we need ICing.
Dakarian would've been great, but... he's gone now... anyway, that class of careful player, not sloppy ones.
I am alright with excluding certain people. Toaster and IronyOwl are perfect candidates, I agree.
Post by: Darvi on February 15, 2011, 06:25:16 pm
Yeah, Darvi: No talking about ongoing games outside the thread! PM the mod if you must voice your opinions.Ya, my bad.
Post by: Mephansteras on February 15, 2011, 06:30:46 pm
Post by: webadict on February 15, 2011, 06:35:47 pm
Another options is to have 4 ICs. Two playing (could be town or scum) and 1 Town advisor and 1 Scum advisor. Needs more ICs, but it allows all roles to be filled.That... works. The advisers can be any players and the playing ones can be the Toaster-esque ones.
Post by: Darvi on February 15, 2011, 06:38:04 pm
Post by: Vector on February 15, 2011, 06:39:26 pm
Whoops, I guess you meant my commentary on Dakarian. Yeah, I just hadn't thought about him in a good long while.
To be honest, I like the playing-ICs-only idea because it allows players to develop their own strategies. I don't think it's good to just get involved in what the board already does and is already good at. New players need to maybe be prodded by the mod to use the scumchat and things like that, but otherwise... we don't need to imbue folks with the whole of our tradition, just familiarize them with certain precepts, understanding of our own thought patterns, and so on, so that they can then come up with their own.
Post by: webadict on February 15, 2011, 06:43:17 pm
Hm? Oh, I know we've had a lot of great newbies and excellent ICs, good BMs even in recent times, and so on. I was just remembering that first game and thinking "Hm, maybe we'd better not do quite that much."Alright. I'll try it for this round.
Whoops, I guess you meant my commentary on Dakarian. Yeah, I just hadn't thought about him in a good long while.
To be honest, I like the playing-ICs-only idea because it allows players to develop their own strategies. I don't think it's good to just get involved in what the board already does and is already good at. New players need to maybe be prodded by the mod to use the scumchat and things like that, but otherwise... we don't need to imbue folks with the whole of our tradition, just familiarize them with certain precepts, understanding of our own thought patterns, and so on, so that they can then come up with their own.
Who would count as a good IC, though? We'd need to find two.
Post by: Darvi on February 15, 2011, 06:45:59 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on February 15, 2011, 07:20:20 pm
Quote
Last Active:
April 25, 2010, 08:05:37 pm
Wow... RIP, Dakarian. Anyone want to hack his computer and put not-so-discreet messages to come back?
Post by: webadict on February 15, 2011, 07:28:35 pm
Dakarian:If you can find it. I suppose if you could get an email, it might work, since you can backtrack a lot from there.QuoteLast Active:
April 25, 2010, 08:05:37 pm
Wow... RIP, Dakarian. Anyone want to hack his computer and put not-so-discreet messages to come back?
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 15, 2011, 07:35:43 pm
I want to start a mafia game... can you put mafia on the planned list?
Its a paranoia themed mafia =D
http://www.crd-sector.com/explain.htm
So how many people want to play a paranoia themed mafia?
I could handle 9 people...probably...
how about a teaser?
After an absurd amount of bickering you leave the Alpha complex and set upon your task of trouble checking a far off location in the Zanzabar sector...
After several days of travel you arrive...
Or atleast you think you have...
The Computer has sent you, not to the zanzabar sector to deal with muntant scum but to a derelict building much farther from the communities gaze than you have ever thought possible...
But, as you know, the computer never makes mistakes... So you go inside the ruined building...
You find that the door is unhinged from the entry way as it crashes down Billowing a cloud of dust and particle board fragments.
As the dust clears you see a gleam in the dark and try to react, But fail miserably as you get shot by a security drone Who is fortunately armed with only sleep darts...
Hours later your entire team wakes up to the voice of the computer informing you that it is time for some group interrogating as it has found out that there are communists in amidst your team...
Since you are a team of trouble shooters that were supposedly incorruptible and uninfiltratable, the computer sets the task of rooting out corruption to the team itself...
I'd suggest you do this after you've got some more games under your belt.
Also, dibs on modding BM XXIII.
Post by: Toaster on February 15, 2011, 11:30:46 pm
Another options is to have 4 ICs. Two playing (could be town or scum) and 1 Town advisor and 1 Scum advisor. Needs more ICs, but it allows all roles to be filled.That... works. The advisers can be any players and the playing ones can be the Toaster-esque ones.
I didn't realize my playstyle was becoming iconic. That's a good thing... I guess? I'd say I'd have a good idea of how to play town, but I tend to fail at the execution (IE I have a single town win under my belt.)
I'll consider playing BMXXI, but I'm a bit high on my game load ATM. Pandar, any honest estimations on the start of WWYDT?
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 15, 2011, 11:58:43 pm
Post by: SaintDraze on February 16, 2011, 05:04:58 pm
I just got inspiration!!!!
A kingmaker with a very awsome flavour called
SchizoMonologue-
It all takes place inside a Crazy persons mind,
the Scum are Malevolent forms of insanity (hate & Jelousy?)
the towns are forms of emotive benign personality... (Judgmental, compassion, Vengeful Ect)
third party are Suicidal(Jester) and Dementia(Pycho!)
IC's
Scum: The Cause of insanity? (cthulu, tragedy, aliens,ect)
Town: The Last support (lover that Is Losing hope, ect)
The goal of the town is to become sane again and the only way of doing that Is Realizing who scum are and in doing so are a means to the end itself,
While the scum are trying to keep everyone Nuts which means getting everyone to falsely identify each other as the crazy part of the mind until they can overpower who's left...
What do you think?
I am not going to mod it though...Got to do a vanilla
Post by: Darvi on February 16, 2011, 05:06:34 pm
And I win every. single. time. *heh*
Post by: Akivara on February 16, 2011, 05:13:19 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 16, 2011, 06:15:30 pm
AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!
I just got inspiration!!!!
A kingmaker with a very awsome flavour called
SchizoMonologue-
It all takes place inside a Crazy persons mind,
the Scum are Malevolent forms of insanity (hate & Jelousy?)
the towns are forms of emotive benign personality... (Judgmental, compassion, Vengeful Ect)
third party are Suicidal(Jester) and Dementia(Pycho!)
IC's
Scum: The Cause of insanity? (cthulu, tragedy, aliens,ect)
Town: The Last support (lover that Is Losing hope, ect)
The goal of the town is to become sane again and the only way of doing that Is Realizing who scum are and in doing so are a means to the end itself,
While the scum are trying to keep everyone Nuts which means getting everyone to falsely identify each other as the crazy part of the mind until they can overpower who's left...
What do you think?
I am not going to mod it though...Got to do a vanilla
This is actually dangerously close to the flavor for WWYDT
:o
Post by: Darvi on February 16, 2011, 06:16:32 pm
Post by: SaintDraze on February 16, 2011, 06:41:49 pm
What?
Is that a game?
Post by: Darvi on February 16, 2011, 06:42:38 pm
Post by: webadict on February 16, 2011, 07:06:28 pm
"Why would you do that?" Yes, it's a non-game that has yet to start. Sometime next year if possible.It's funny because it's an under-exaggeration!
Post by: Darvi on February 16, 2011, 07:07:59 pm
Also, wishful thinking.
Post by: Vector on February 18, 2011, 01:23:11 am
Post by: webadict on February 18, 2011, 07:49:00 am
We don't have any games open.Odd, huh? You bored?
Post by: Ottofar on February 18, 2011, 09:10:03 am
Or Bring Your Own Song.
Post by: Toaster on February 18, 2011, 09:11:18 am
While I'm here, go ahead and put Roguelike Mafia into the
Post by: Ottofar on February 18, 2011, 09:11:46 am
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 18, 2011, 09:48:52 am
I could open the chess mafia tomorrow.I'm willing to bet Chess would die before finishing based on reading the Mafiascum game and knowing the players here. You might get lucky, but I think something else would be better to run.
Or Bring Your Own Song.
Post by: Leafsnail on February 18, 2011, 01:29:17 pm
Post by: Vector on February 18, 2011, 03:13:03 pm
Might just wait until the next mountainous or BYOR (I know, not exactly role-light) opens. Maybe the next Paranormal.
I want to play something more traditional. I'd play a Leafsnail game, though, because they're usually cute.
Also, I recommend opening a game or two for signups, because it's not good to have everything closed. We don't have our replacement problem anymore, and everything is flash-filling. We need to open something(s) with reliable mods.
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 18, 2011, 03:14:36 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 18, 2011, 03:15:47 pm
Post by: Vector on February 18, 2011, 03:26:22 pm
I want a Nearly-Mountainous. D:<
Yeah <3
(Sorry for sounding so weird--I'm pretty sick. There's a bad bug going around my Russian class)
Post by: Book on February 18, 2011, 03:49:19 pm
Being dead sooner than expected in Paranormal, I could run a second role light game if there's enough interest.I'd in for Sorcerer's 4, and it's pretty role-light...
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 18, 2011, 03:53:49 pm
Post by: TolyK on February 20, 2011, 04:56:05 am
I had a thread here (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=75468.msg1896329#msg1896329) for this before, but didn't quite get the game. With a few internet mafia games in my book I feel I can start this out.
It seems it's been a while since anything like this, is anyone interested?
Post by: webadict on February 20, 2011, 10:42:36 am
I'm planning a DF mafia based fairly closely off of Org's/Webadict's DF mafia, with a few small twists and simplification.You'll need to show what the rules and the roles are. Unless it's closed, but then you should make sure it's rather balanced.
I had a thread here (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=75468.msg1896329#msg1896329) for this before, but didn't quite get the game. With a few internet mafia games in my book I feel I can start this out.
It seems it's been a while since anything like this, is anyone interested?
Post by: TolyK on February 20, 2011, 10:49:12 am
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 20, 2011, 12:42:13 pm
I could start up another Mountainous, if you guys want.
Though maybe I should wait 'til I can do this without procrastinating...
Post by: TolyK on February 20, 2011, 12:44:26 pm
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 20, 2011, 12:46:03 pm
Post by: Ottofar on February 20, 2011, 12:48:14 pm
Also, any good place to make scum/deadchats?
http://www.quicktopic.com/
Post by: Argembarger on February 20, 2011, 12:52:19 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on February 20, 2011, 12:53:10 pm
Post by: Argembarger on February 20, 2011, 12:54:56 pm
Post by: Darvi on February 20, 2011, 01:18:06 pm
Post by: TolyK on February 20, 2011, 01:25:49 pm
Post by: Argembarger on February 20, 2011, 01:35:52 pm
I find this claim highly suspect.
Post by: Darvi on February 20, 2011, 02:15:04 pm
Post by: Argembarger on February 20, 2011, 02:21:59 pm
Post by: Ottofar on February 21, 2011, 06:16:52 pm
a)Bring your own Song
b)Vengeful 6
c)Chess Mafia
For signups.
So. Which one?
Post by: Argembarger on February 21, 2011, 06:19:31 pm
Post by: Ottofar on February 21, 2011, 06:23:33 pm
Hell yeah.
Post by: Book on February 21, 2011, 06:30:08 pm
Tomorrow, or today, really, I'm going to open either
a)Bring your own Song
b)Vengeful 6
c)Chess Mafia
For signups.
So. Which one?
Vengeful 6! I'll in for that. I'm sorry my failed attempt at cool flavour killed VM5 and stalled the series. I wanted to try hosting again, but I never found the time or will, so I'll stop trying for now. But yes, we should always have a vengeful going, they're easy, fast, and loads of fun.
...but they are killed by lurking! Please, whoever joins, don't lurk!
Post by: Jack A T on February 21, 2011, 06:31:20 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on February 21, 2011, 06:39:32 pm
You've been regarded as a human shield, a mere, insignicant part of their plans. You've been ordered to trudge forwards slowly to your inevitable doom. Well, not any more.
Now... it's payback time.
Post by: Argembarger on February 21, 2011, 06:56:11 pm
Tomorrow, or today, really, I'm going to open either
a)Bring your own Song
b)Vengeful 6
c)Chess Mafia
For signups.
So. Which one?
Vengeful 6! I'll in for that. I'm sorry my failed attempt at cool flavour killed VM5 and stalled the series. I wanted to try hosting again, but I never found the time or will, so I'll stop trying for now. But yes, we should always have a vengeful going, they're easy, fast, and loads of fun.
...but they are killed by lurking! Please, whoever joins, don't lurk!
'Twasn't your flavor that killed VM5
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 21, 2011, 09:19:02 pm
Tomorrow, or today, really, I'm going to open either
a)Bring your own Song
b)Vengeful 6
c)Chess Mafia
For signups.
So. Which one?
Vengeful 6! I'll in for that. I'm sorry my failed attempt at cool flavour killed VM5 and stalled the series. I wanted to try hosting again, but I never found the time or will, so I'll stop trying for now. But yes, we should always have a vengeful going, they're easy, fast, and loads of fun.
...but they are killed by lurking! Please, whoever joins, don't lurk!
'Twasn't your flavor that killed VM5
Word.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on February 21, 2011, 09:51:40 pm
Post by: Zai on February 21, 2011, 10:03:28 pm
Troperrific Mafia: Mountainous roles. However, at the start of each post, you must find a fitting trope. You may/should spoiler a description of why, in case it isn't obvious. Repeat tropes result in smiting.So it's...Mafia, with an extra rule to get you modkilled?
...Eh.
Post by: Toaster on February 21, 2011, 10:06:55 pm
I say Vengeful because we need something role-light.
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 21, 2011, 10:08:16 pm
Troperrific Mafia: Mountainous roles. However, at the start of each post, you must find a fitting trope. You may/should spoiler a description of why, in case it isn't obvious. Repeat tropes result in smiting.Wouldn't join, but if I did, here's my link (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/randomitem.php)
Post by: Argembarger on February 21, 2011, 10:14:07 pm
HMMMMMMMMMMM
Post by: Darvi on February 21, 2011, 10:17:54 pm
Post by: Ottofar on February 22, 2011, 04:56:36 am
You are an Angry Pawn.
You've been regarded as a human shield, a mere, insignicant part of their plans. You've been ordered to trudge forwards slowly to your inevitable doom. Well, not any more.
Now... it's payback time.
Yes. Just... Yes.
Post by: SaintDraze on February 22, 2011, 08:38:00 am
And I think I am going to try moding that one king maker mafia I posted about a page or two ago...
Psycho kingmaker
After a few other games are over...
Unless there is no qualms to me starting it now...
Would Any one be interested in such a game?
Post by: Book on February 22, 2011, 08:47:28 am
I'm not being mean, I'm being honest. I won't join your games until I know you have what it takes, and you won't show you have what it takes until you've played some games or otherwise shown your mettle. Your experiences on games so far have been, frankly, disgraceful. Doesn't mean you can't improve, I'm sure you can, but you have to improve before you can host your own games... play some more BMs, learn what scumhunting is about, when to use the roles, how nights and days roll and so on. Take your time. Become good. And then host your game.
Post by: IronyOwl on February 22, 2011, 07:24:30 pm
Beginner's Vengeful Mafia.
Obviously, that might be a bit too fast-paced for most noobs, and it's not exactly representative of a normal game. It does, however, have some advantages. It's small, quick, and to the point, so there's less issues with holding interest or keeping track of things. It's almost completely role/night action-free, so you don't generally get caught up in WIFOM or speculation. Combined, this also means it's overall less daunting for players thinking about joining- there's not a big investment in learning rules or playing for a long time.
Perhaps most importantly though, it delivers bite-sized results immediately- you get to see who was scum duping you, who was town making a mistake, who you were outwitting yourself about, and so on, right then when it's still fresh in your mind. I'm forced to wonder if a handful of VBMs might be more instructive, at least for the very basics, than a single, full-length BM.
Thoughts?
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 22, 2011, 07:29:47 pm
vengeful mafia and would totally join it.
Post by: Book on February 22, 2011, 07:35:26 pm
Beginner's Vengeful Mafia....
Actually, that does sound great. I fully support the idea. Who wants to run one? (experienced mods, please; let's keep the learning on one side of the table). Also, should there be an IC? Player or non-player?
Post by: IronyOwl on February 22, 2011, 08:07:47 pm
I'm honestly kind of torn on having an IC at all. It seems hard to imagine it hurting, but the point is more of a crash course, so it might be better to let them read the guides and then receive pointers after the fact. It's also a rather delicate game, so I might be a little worried about the impact an IC's realtime advice might have. On the other hand, I think it's been shown that numerous people just now joining have no idea how to play, and letting them crash and burn before telling them why they suck might not really be productive. The participants of the "should ICs actually play" discussion would probably be better qualified to answer this question, though.
I might be up for running it myself, especially if we don't have any more experienced mods that want the job. And of course, this might be the kind of thing that could get multiple games at once if it's successful/popular enough.
Post by: Toaster on February 22, 2011, 10:25:31 pm
Post by: webadict on February 22, 2011, 10:54:27 pm
What about making the IC available for advice for the first 24 realtime hours? After that, they're on their own.I've got a better idea.
Each of the five players is strapped to a nuclear device with a load of about 50 kilotons with a 2-hour timer. They are surrounded by their friends and family who are bound to chairs with several chains, but are free to talk. If anybody escapes from their chair, a device strapped to their neck explodes.
For the next 72 hours straight, they must play like experts. Any time they make a mistake, a coin is flipped.
If it lands on heads, a randomly selected friend or family member is shot, which is displayed on a giant television that all friends and family are facing. The mistake is also displayed, and they will have another hour to fix the mistake in some way, or face another coin flip. Should all friends and family members die, the flip becomes tails.
If it lands on tails, the timer starts on the nuclear device. They will have whatever time is remaining to fix the mistake, which then stops the timer at that point. If the timer reaches 0, the device is activated. However, a chrono deceleration field is activated, reducing the passing of time to about .01% of its current speed. However, every person inside the radius of the containment field will have had several injections of a chrono acceleration drug, negating the field, so they experience the explosion in super slow-mo.
Should any player survive, they will be allowed to play mafia with the rest of us.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on February 22, 2011, 10:56:40 pm
Seems like some bad players could still get through.
Post by: Argembarger on February 22, 2011, 11:05:20 pm
Do they each have their own 50 kiloton nuclear device?
It seems to me that a party of four decent noobs could all get wiped out by one hopelessly and persistantly bad one.
If they are all out of range of each other and playing via video chat, I could see this being a perfectly feasible BVM game.
Post by: webadict on February 22, 2011, 11:09:33 pm
Wait, hold on. Are all 5 players (+their friends and family) all in the same room?Of course they're out of range of each other. That'd be silly if they weren't.
Do they each have their own 50 kiloton nuclear device?
It seems to me that a party of four decent noobs could all get wiped out by one hopelessly and persistantly bad one.
If they are all out of range of each other and playing via video chat, I could see this being a perfectly feasible BVM game.
Post by: IronyOwl on February 22, 2011, 11:17:15 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 22, 2011, 11:43:28 pm
Post by: TolyK on February 23, 2011, 10:21:21 am
I would fully support there being a beginner'ssame here, but.
vengeful mafia and would totally join it.
*plan*
I support this plan.with me on the ISS :P
Post by: Book on February 24, 2011, 07:11:57 am
Beginner's Vengeful Mafia.
Thoughts?
I've been thinking about this for a bit, and with the recent VM6 going on, I'm feeling the adrenaline that the newbies should be feeling. IronyOwl, if you want to host this, this is your last chance to call it. Otherwise...
... I'm almost ready to say I'll host BVM1: Beginner's Vengeful Mafia 1.
Terms
Entry challenges: This shouldn't be people's first game. They should play a BM first. Then this as second, sure. Or third, or seventh even, sure. But before their in request is accepted, they'd have to include the answer to a number of little questions/puzzles posted somewhere in the rules, asking them to agree to be active, agree to not give up, to play to win, make sure they can read, and do other things players take for granted.
Entry limits: Webadict can't join as a player. He's too cool. Neither can Vector, Pandar, Toaster or IronyOwl; they're almost as much. Some sort of vetting will be in place (at the discretion of the mod, initially, but ideally numerically/objectively determined), so that it's limited to newbies on their way to tenderfoots. Or something like that.
Rules
Generally as posted on VM6 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=78028.0), with some further clarifications/conditions/caveats/links. Basically, this is a game where you can't screw up; if you do, it'll be held against you. Don't join unless you will not give up, you will play to win, and you'll be active; if you edit a post, it will count against your rank in the Attendance Board; if you flake, lurk, are prodded or modkilled, it'll have consequences. The intention being that if you manage to WIN this game, you can sit at the grownup's table. I think this is a fair and hard enough trophy, and worthy enough to encourage newbies to try their best. If they don't win, they can try again. And again. And again.
Should any player survive, they will be allowed to play mafia with the rest of us.Do the grownups here agree that those who win this game fairly can sit with them?
Considerations
ICs: There will be up to four (two? twelve?) ICs who are free to post. None of them are players, have no spoilers, no roles, merely clearance to post if they wish. Activity is the point, I'd rather have unconnected advice from two to four seldom posting ICs than 24 hours passing with no comment. If no ICs sign up, or no ICs post, the mod can comment in this capacity as long as it's clearly noted by formatting in some way.
...more to come, I'm still thinking.
...these are ideas still in rough format and subject to change. Suggestions welcome. How should the step between BM and Paranormal/BYOR be taken?
Post by: Mr.Person on February 24, 2011, 09:56:34 am
Post by: Argembarger on February 24, 2011, 10:02:07 am
We should be selecting based on observed playing skill rather than victory/defeat I think
Post by: Mephansteras on February 24, 2011, 12:32:12 pm
Post by: Toaster on February 24, 2011, 12:52:00 pm
If a mod wants to limit games to people who have played a few or exclude people who cause problems, that's fine, but anything blanket is bad.
However, I support the idea of an alternate style beginner's game in general. Vengeful is good because it's short and simple to run.
Post by: webadict on February 24, 2011, 12:57:30 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on February 24, 2011, 01:32:49 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 24, 2011, 01:38:39 pm
This subforum tends to die if we don't have a decent influx of new people on a regular basis.IMO, it's been happening for a while...
Doesn't help when people shut down newer players with different playstyles from their own.
Post by: Vector on February 24, 2011, 04:02:26 pm
It's kind of ridiculous to say "you must be this amount of excellent to play any game here, period."
Also, I still want a cool game with interesting flavor and innovation. Our current meal set is vanilla, BYOR, and paranormal/supernatural + vengeful and BMs, and that seems like we're just sitting in the "well, let's do the same old thing" camp.
And for everyone who is going to go "then YOU run something," well, I'm planning on doing that over the summer, when my life won't be a million kinds of insane.
Post by: Toaster on February 24, 2011, 04:26:12 pm
Speaking of my games, Kingmaker 4 is on its last day and I'm down to two games, so that means it's time to put Roguelike Mafia in the queue and get opinions on when I should open it for signups. Minimum players is 9 and maximum is 13. Skillwise, I don't want it to be anyone's first game, but due to the randomness of the night game (and therefore stronger focus on day), I'm ranking it intermediate. A BM or two is sufficient experience for me to let you in.
Post by: Mephansteras on February 24, 2011, 04:31:50 pm
Post by: Toaster on February 24, 2011, 04:57:17 pm
How is interest in Kingmaker 5? Also see the end of the KM4 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76609.0) thread for gametype discussion.
Post by: Mephansteras on February 24, 2011, 04:59:19 pm
So, sure, stuff can go into signups whenever, I think.
Post by: IronyOwl on February 24, 2011, 06:07:09 pm
It'd probably take me a bit to get set up, and since you're obviously jonesing for it right now, I say go for it. Absolute worst case I'll run BVM 2 concurrently, or something.Beginner's Vengeful Mafia.
Thoughts?
I've been thinking about this for a bit, and with the recent VM6 going on, I'm feeling the adrenaline that the newbies should be feeling. IronyOwl, if you want to host this, this is your last chance to call it. Otherwise...
... I'm almost ready to say I'll host BVM1: Beginner's Vengeful Mafia 1.
I do think the entry/exit stuff is getting a bit elitist, but I would agree that you really can't screw around in a VM because it's lylo at all times. Attaching too much importance to it isn't good, but doing your best is pretty much mandatory unless you're already a decent player.
We want to make sure they understand this is quick but intense, but we don't want to drive them off or make them overly nervous.
Post by: Mr.Person on February 24, 2011, 06:59:41 pm
I think this is leaning dangerously elitist.
And now I feel bad. Rightfully so, too. I accept mods wanting to bar beginners from really complex stuff, but remember that a lot of players here started without a BM to jump into. It's very much possible to dive right into, say, Paranormal.
Roguelike Mafia at Intermediate sounds fine. The only real confusing stuff is artifacts, which are rare enough that as a mod you can walk players through using it if they get confused.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 24, 2011, 11:08:04 pm
then make sure there is an alternate suggested. I would
have just left after trying to join paranormal 18 and being
advised to try something easier if I had not been directed
towards beginner's XX at the same time. Telling someone
that they can not play till they are better but having no
where for them to get better is just kind of rude. Also I
would side on the letting them play because this is the
forum for Dwarf Fortress, the game with a difficulty curve
like a cliff with an overhang.
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 24, 2011, 11:13:20 pm
I've had more problems with more "experienced" players in general than with newer players, but that might just be my experience...
Side note: Akheir, why do you format your posts like that? They're still fine to read, but it jumps out a bit when scanning the page. Sort of like the 2-3 people I've noticed recently that are posting in Comic Sans... :-\
Post by: Vector on February 24, 2011, 11:17:29 pm
Mafia isn't a game like that.
That said, we only have 3 games running right now. That's kind of absurd... we have a lot of people who want to run games, too, but we haven't been letting them. A lot of them have even played a few games.
Being a bad player doesn't mean you'll be a bad mod. Hell, swap inexperienced there and you'll get the same thing.
I strongly suggest that we start trying to encourage the new blood more, because if we continue to act as insular as we have been, we're going to run out of new people to have fun with and it will be boring.
Remember, there have been lots of more-advanced games with newbies that were loads of fun. Many of them even wound up in the Notable Games list. Some of them even (*gasp*) included ExKirby, or other people who were playing to lose. I think we're getting too paranoid about our games. Excluding newbies on really small games kind of makes sense, but for bigger ones... well, as long as half the players aren't new, why not?
Is it about fun, or isn't it?
Also, Webby, if you run Color Mafia again I'll in.
Post by: Toaster on February 24, 2011, 11:24:48 pm
Post by: webadict on February 24, 2011, 11:50:56 pm
Also, Webby, if you run Color Mafia again I'll in.Muahaha. I'll need to finish either BYOR or BM first.
Maybe I'll think of the setup during that time. This school thing seems to have long stretches of sitting around not doing homework time.
Post by: Mephansteras on February 25, 2011, 01:34:18 am
If you have mods saying no to inexperienced players
then make sure there is an alternate suggested. I would
have just left after trying to join paranormal 18 and being
advised to try something easier if I had not been directed
towards beginner's XX at the same time.
And if there hadn't been a Beginners starting up right then, I'd have let you play. I normally don't worry about it as much, but since I knew that there was going to be a beginners starting around the same time it made sense to direct you there first.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 25, 2011, 04:08:08 am
a game?
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 25, 2011, 04:19:51 am
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 25, 2011, 04:32:00 am
the insert code button and the insert quote button. I
do it because I like how it looks as compared to just
letting it wrap itself.
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 25, 2011, 05:19:25 am
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 25, 2011, 05:22:20 am
makes me want to change less. 10 points for every puppy
that hits a pedestrian.
Edit: I will change though if it bothers you THAT much.
Post by: Darvi on February 25, 2011, 06:49:06 am
Post by: webadict on February 25, 2011, 08:23:16 am
How much work is modding a game compared to playingDepends on how much effort you put into either, really. I find it easier, as I can update at times I'm not busy, but then again, I put a lot of effort into playing games.
a game?
Post by: Argembarger on February 25, 2011, 08:27:07 am
Post by: Painiac on February 25, 2011, 09:09:42 am
How much work is modding a game compared to playingWell, while modding is quite fun, because you know excatly what is happening in game, responsibility comes first. Game has to be organized, balanced out, and so on. Players here are organized and mature; most of them know what to do, so balancing out game is the biggest concern. Efforts of players should be main factor for outcome of game, not flaws in the game. After balancing out game, there's not too much to do, writing some flavor, and posting votecounts.
a game?
Yea, it is some responsibility. But you can look at game objectively, and learn a lot how other players interact with game; how they play, what they think. You can group some players for their typical quirks: some of them are active, some lurks more. You can learn by modding how to deal with such players.
Post by: Toaster on February 25, 2011, 09:16:51 am
When you mod a game, you're there to make sure every player has fun. This means the setups must be balanced, the gametype solid, vote counts done at the least once a day (twice is better if you can), and you must be available to answer questions. You can't really ask for a replacement like you could in a game if you need to be out a while. Like Painiac, it's a much bigger responsiblity.
If you're willing to put forth the effort, go for it. I doubt many would mind you hosting BM XXII if you want to start there. Hosting a BM is a good way to start- my first hosted game was BM XVII.
Also, I'm putting Roguelike Mafia into signups.
Post by: Mr.Person on February 25, 2011, 10:05:02 am
But seriously, if you can prove you've thought the game through and maybe talk about the game on the "hammer out your ideas" thread or at least mention you want to put it in sign-ups on this thread, you'll get players to join. Even if you ignore all the other threads and just go ahead and start the game, as long as the formatting is nice and it looks somewhat professional, you'll get players joining. I think Toaster's Mafia Salad is a good standard to shoot for. Detailed, clear, consistent, but not crazy long and complex like Paranormal.
Post by: Book on February 25, 2011, 04:23:51 pm
... I'm almost ready to say I'll host BVM1: Beginner's Vengeful Mafia 1.
[...]The intention being that if you manage to WIN this game, you can sit at the grownup's table. I think this is a fair and hard enough trophy, and worthy enough to encourage newbies to try their best. If they don't win, they can try again. And again. And again.
Hmm... rereading, that didn't come out as I hoped. Yeah, it does seem too elitist, and was not my intention to imply people couldn't join games until they won that. I blame the unfortunate wording on having posted late at night and while intoxicapated. Apologies to all who may have been offended or turned off from participating due to that; it was unintentional.
The point I was trying to make was to start a series of games one step beyond BMs, for newbies trying to hone their skills, and give those who win a cookie, an honorary trophy of some kind that they could feel good about, and it being cool enough to encourage them to try their best. The "sitting at the grownup's table" was a lame attempt to express that, but didn't mean it to say you can't play unless... I agree that in principle anyone can play anything unless there are strong reasons against it or the mods/majority of players object.
I do think a second beginner-friendly series is needed, where emphasis is made on behaviours/customs that are needed for a new player to improve, but that are not stringently enforced in BM games. Things like not editing posts, lurking, prods, proven ability to read and write, playing to win and the like. A game where mistakes have consequences, and where if you are successful you'll earn some bragging rights. I welcome ideas on how this could be done. Being considered a "grown up" I think is cool, but yeah, it does send the wrong connotations.
It'd probably take me a bit to get set up, and since you're obviously jonesing for it right now, I say go for it. Absolute worst case I'll run BVM 2 concurrently, or something.I was at the moment of writing, but it was what they call a "vampire idea". Badass scary cool during the night, but vanishes in a puff of ash when the sunlight hits it. I'm not as gung-ho about it now, so if you'd like to call dibs I'm certainly cool with that. Otherwise, if there's interest and a bit more discussion, I could probably set it up for signups over the weekend or some time next week.
Post by: Toaster on February 25, 2011, 04:26:12 pm
Post by: Darvi on February 25, 2011, 04:28:42 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on February 25, 2011, 04:33:53 pm
Post by: Darvi on February 25, 2011, 04:37:15 pm
Although I don't see why those points can't all be addressed in a regular BM.
Post by: Toaster on February 25, 2011, 04:40:44 pm
What we do need are more "simple" games that are designed for anyone to join, like mountainous games or my Mafia Salad. That'd be a good place for people with a couple games under their belts that don't feel ready to jump in to a Paranormal to play with the veterans of the board.
Post by: Mephansteras on February 25, 2011, 04:42:58 pm
Post by: Book on February 25, 2011, 04:47:18 pm
Quote from: IronyOwl
Well, here's a question- would Active Literate Non-Editing Victory-Seeking Beginner's Mafia need or benefit from its own gametype, or do we just need some sort of Intermediate or Advanced Beginner's Mafia? Or on that note, maybe absolute newbies aren't cut out for regular BMs, and we need some sort of training pool for people who simply don't know what they're doing?
I think it being a different game type is good. As with the hammers, it trains newbies on how different game types or rulesets work, and how strategies need to be adjusted based on that. The VM format also emphasises Day play, rather than power roles, as well as activity; and is small enough, both in number of players and in duration, to grant (as you suggested) immediate feedback and bite-sized results. Hell, if they prove popular we could have two or three concurrent games.
But yeah, a near-mountainous game based on paranormal or salad would be just as good (though not as fast). I'm OK if people prefer that.
Darvi: those points certainly can and should be addressed in a regular BM, but they are not strictly enforced to give a chance for newbies to screw up once or twice without being penalised. They would be more strict in the BVM (if people like the idea). And yes, a cookie for good behaviour is something I suggest and think would be good motivation, but I'm not sure others agree or how to implement it. Suggestions or objections are welcome.
Post by: Ottofar on February 25, 2011, 04:49:45 pm
Post by: Toaster on February 25, 2011, 04:51:22 pm
You got a cookie for good behavior during a beginner's game!
Ottofar: Now that's just evil.
Post by: IronyOwl on February 25, 2011, 04:55:44 pm
Post by: Darvi on February 25, 2011, 05:01:45 pm
Beginner's Bastard Mod, anyone?Awesome. Already got an idea for that one, if nobody would mind.
Achievement unlocked: Chocolate Chip Cookie!was never locked to begin with :P
Post by: IronyOwl on February 25, 2011, 05:08:15 pm
I'm honestly curious how you'd pull that off.Beginner's Bastard Mod, anyone?Awesome. Already got an idea for that one, if nobody would mind.
Post by: Darvi on February 25, 2011, 05:10:54 pm
But then the winning conditions aren't what they seem to be...
Edit: and I think that was an unorthodox usage of the term "extremely role-light". Just "role-light" would've worked better.
Post by: IronyOwl on February 25, 2011, 05:15:17 pm
Plus, it's in danger of distracting from the actual game in favor of hypothesizing about the bastard part, which would get in the way of them actually learning mafia.
Post by: Darvi on February 25, 2011, 05:17:41 pm
Post by: webadict on February 25, 2011, 05:24:02 pm
Hmm, yeah. Maybe it shouldn't be quite "Beginner's" Bastard Mafia. Rather something for people that have finished some games, like Tolyk or me. So... "Mafia for Bastard-newbies"?But, then we have to find a bunch of newbies conceived out of wedlock...
And I do have an idea for a new type of game, but I'll bring it up in Discussion first.
Post by: IronyOwl on February 25, 2011, 05:24:39 pm
Of course, Meph's Bastard Paranormal was kind of like that. It was still role-heavy, but the bastard part wasn't fantastically bastardy.
...I now want to run Fabulous Bastard Mafia for reasons I'm not sure anyone can really fathom. I don't even know how that would work.
Post by: Ottofar on February 25, 2011, 05:26:05 pm
Post by: webadict on February 25, 2011, 05:26:46 pm
The mod will ass-pull rules?Rule #1. No questions.
Post by: Ottofar on February 25, 2011, 05:27:32 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on February 25, 2011, 05:27:44 pm
...
That wasn't supposed to be innuendo. At all.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on February 25, 2011, 05:29:09 pm
I think you are all just being dicks. But then that would
make sense because You are what you eat after all.
[/humor]
Post by: Darvi on February 25, 2011, 05:30:51 pm
But, then we have to find a bunch of newbies conceived out of wedlock...Eh, we do have a bunch of guys right now who aren't total newbs anymore.
Post by: Vector on February 25, 2011, 07:10:52 pm
Post by: Book on February 25, 2011, 07:24:26 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 25, 2011, 10:24:38 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on February 25, 2011, 10:31:52 pm
Either way, I'll probably get started on it in its plain beginner incarnation. I also think we'll need ICs after all.
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 25, 2011, 11:12:59 pm
Also, I want to run a flavor-heavy NSBM Mafia or Nearly-Mountainous at some point soon.
Post by: Vector on February 26, 2011, 12:07:23 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 26, 2011, 12:16:52 am
I'd probably play the latter.
<3
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 26, 2011, 07:02:31 am
I've wanted to run a Bastard Mod for a while, just currently mulling over how to do it. I've got the flavour idea and some of what I want already thought up.
Problem is, I'd rather keep my ideas a surprise, so I'm hesitant to discuss them. But I'm worried I'll imbalance the game too.
If the attendance call for WWYDT doesn't conclude soon, I'm going to need to either scale things down and reroll shit (DO NOT WANT) or I'll have to call for pre-game replacements.
Also, I want to run a flavor-heavy NSBM Mafia or Nearly-Mountainous at some point soon.
Don't suppose you've poked the absentees?
Post by: RedWarrior0 on February 26, 2011, 07:37:15 am
Post by: IronyOwl on February 26, 2011, 03:15:28 pm
Also, who doesn't want to run a bastard mod? :P
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 26, 2011, 03:23:49 pm
Also, who doesn't want to run a bastard mod? :PMe :) Never saw the point myself.
They're neat enough but people seem to rarely (if ever) figure them out.
Post by: Darvi on February 26, 2011, 03:26:40 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on February 26, 2011, 03:30:42 pm
My goal is to have fun and for the players to have fun. Them not being able to win may be amusing for me, but less so for them.
Post by: IronyOwl on February 26, 2011, 03:35:58 pm
There's also the blind-man humor for all involved after the fact.
Post by: TolyK on February 27, 2011, 02:23:31 am
If you're not willing to reveal the details, just request a more experienced person to help you with them over PM. There's bound to be someone out there who didn't want a shot at playing but still knows what they're doing.I was talking with webadict about dwarven mafia - almost got it figured out, though the dwarves are too strong.
if anyone wants to help PM me
EDIT: what exactly is a bastard mod? where the GM is tricky and doesn't say everything out loud?
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 27, 2011, 03:29:41 am
EDIT: what exactly is a bastard mod? where the GM is tricky and doesn't say everything out loud?
It can also be a game with non-standard goals or hidden goals (see Kill Webadict Now Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=43695.msg826277#msg826277)).
Post by: TolyK on February 27, 2011, 03:35:48 am
...
someone help me finalize the dwarven mafia (already read through 3 games) (this is a bit different btw) and wow that looks fun.
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 27, 2011, 04:45:32 am
EDIT: what exactly is a bastard mod? where the GM is tricky and doesn't say everything out loud?
It can also be a game with non-standard goals or hidden goals (see Kill Webadict Now Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=43695.msg826277#msg826277)).
A quick summary of such:
Well, the example of Kill Webadict Now as a Bastard Mod is that everyone was informed at the start that Webadict was the scum and that they should kill him immediately.
I was telling the truth.
However:
If he's lynched, the first person to unvote him gained his role and he flipped their role; that player then becomes The Webadict, who has the same role.
The Webadict also had a large number of one-shot abilities that could be used in addition to a nightkill. And there was a Jester. And a SurvivorI think.
Also, the Webadict himself did not know how it spreads. Only former Webadicts.
Post by: TolyK on February 27, 2011, 04:49:41 am
:o
...
I haz an idea/
Post by: TolyK on February 27, 2011, 05:57:28 am
Post by: Mephansteras on March 01, 2011, 01:35:19 pm
Not sure how early to put it into signups. We've got 5 games running right now, so it might be a bit.
@TolyK: I don't think I'll co-mod it, but if you want I can help you balance it and give you advice if you want.
Post by: Toaster on March 01, 2011, 01:46:52 pm
Post by: TolyK on March 01, 2011, 03:31:36 pm
So, next on my list I think is the RP Supernatural. It'll probably be a small game, since it'll appeal to a smaller audience. But it should still be fun.
Not sure how early to put it into signups. We've got 5 games running right now, so it might be a bit.
@TolyK: I don't think I'll co-mod it, but if you want I can help you balance it and give you advice if you want.
TolyK: I suggest you take him up on his offer. He helped me out with Mafia Salad (thanks again!) and it was useful advice.that i will, thank you.
you are hired Mephansteras!
Post by: Mephansteras on March 02, 2011, 02:34:50 pm
The game also starts with a Day 0 for pure RP stuff and character creation before roles/factions are determined and that part can go on for a few days before the actual game starts if necessary.
Post by: lordnincompoop on March 03, 2011, 01:04:52 pm
I was reading through their wiki and it seemed rather fun.
Post by: Solifuge on March 03, 2011, 01:23:18 pm
Post by: Ottofar on March 03, 2011, 02:34:41 pm
I have nothing against it, but you should implement some rules against quicklynching.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 03, 2011, 02:51:40 pm
Post by: Ottofar on March 03, 2011, 02:52:24 pm
Post by: Darvi on March 03, 2011, 02:54:35 pm
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 03, 2011, 02:57:32 pm
not change their votes quick enough. That is part of the
game strategy you have to work with. Figuring how much
is enough to fool the assassin but not so much the king
gets lynched.
Post by: Ottofar on March 03, 2011, 03:03:13 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on March 03, 2011, 03:30:45 pm
There's the game where they lynched the king.I disagree. It's either quicklynching or "come to a decision very quickly then lurk lurk lurk for the rest of the time". The guards are more like scum than town, they want to say as little as possible.
I have nothing against it, but you should implement some rules against quicklynching.
Post by: Mr.Person on March 03, 2011, 03:35:43 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on March 03, 2011, 03:36:54 pm
"Random voting all over the place followed by sudden wagon" is my favourite approach.
Post by: webadict on March 03, 2011, 03:44:19 pm
And knew it was hammer.
Post by: Supercharazad on March 03, 2011, 05:10:03 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 03, 2011, 05:12:11 pm
Also, if you haven't already, I recommend getting an experienced mod to help you with balancing.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 03, 2011, 05:15:45 pm
I want to thrash it out some more and then wait
till I was done with 1 of the Mafia games I am playing.
Post by: Mephansteras on March 03, 2011, 05:25:44 pm
I made a thread to help people with modding: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=78772.msg2039580#msg2039580
I'll try to keep the OP there updated with answers to questions people have and a bunch of general suggestions for how to properly run a game.
It'll also be a good place for people to discuss what works and doesn't work for them. And any other mod related stuff.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 04, 2011, 08:29:51 pm
Post by: Darvi on March 04, 2011, 08:30:56 pm
NSBM/NMM.Ooh, lemme figure out this one... uhm...
... no clue.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 04, 2011, 08:35:06 pm
Both are fairly standard setups with a small number of roles. I plan to take a page from Vector's (math?) book since simpler setups can accommodate heavy flavor better, or at least so it seems. I figure they'd probably be around 9 players and 2 scum in them.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 08, 2011, 05:11:32 pm
will want around 12 players for it.
Post by: webadict on March 09, 2011, 05:35:50 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on March 09, 2011, 06:44:14 pm
Post by: TolyK on March 10, 2011, 02:22:32 pm
Just a heads up to everyone who's mad at me in WWYDT, I had HDD trouble and had to format and reinstall Windows. I'm able to play now. Yes, I'm aware I had attendence issues in another game not too long ago for HDD trouble and also had to format then. That's what I get for using shitty components. Sorry all.if it's better than a pentium iii and has more that 10 GB of HDD then you've got less problems than me :P
Post by: Mr.Person on March 10, 2011, 05:26:49 pm
Thanks for making me feel better about myself, though.
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 12, 2011, 03:00:06 pm
I know that this is sudden of me, but in my spare time I got around to writing a variant for mafia. I just did it for fun, but would you guys like to take a look at it?
Post by: TolyK on March 12, 2011, 03:07:46 pm
Me and TolyK are going to Co-Mod a Mafia game andanyone?
will want around 12 players for it.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 12, 2011, 03:13:15 pm
Meh, we decided that because we where both new
that we will keep it mostly vanilla. We could give you
the flavor since that's interesting. There are also some
things like we will only flip roles not affiliation and took
all the classes and made it so anyone could be anything
whether mafia or town. We plan to have the roles like
doctor, serial killer/vigilanty(when they flip its as serial
even if vigilanty), Bodyguard, and some form of redirection.
they will of course be handed out randomly with only a
certain number of roles per a side. We decided against
bastard because that would only get confusing with 2
new mods both co modding.
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 12, 2011, 03:34:39 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Mephansteras on March 12, 2011, 03:46:31 pm
Looks like an interesting variant. Certainly quite different. I haven't pondered it in great detail, but the overall scheme seems reasonably sound. Planning on running it sometime? Or are you just throwing it out there for someone else to run?
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 12, 2011, 03:52:47 pm
I could probably rig up a topic today, if the mafia forum isn't over-packed with games at the moment.
Post by: Leafsnail on March 12, 2011, 03:54:35 pm
In the case of a tie, all tying players are winners.So, who volunteers to be Nao?
Honestly, this sounds great. If we can get the interest together I'd love to play.
Post by: Darvi on March 12, 2011, 03:55:32 pm
Spoiler: Oh, and thanks for helping out in that one game~ (click to show/hide)
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 12, 2011, 04:32:33 pm
Nice to have you back, Josh!In the case of a tie, all tying players are winners.So, who volunteers to be Nao?
Honestly, this sounds great. If we can get the interest together I'd love to play.
Yeah, I specifically added that in so as to not preclude the idea of team victories.
Post by: Toaster on March 12, 2011, 10:23:56 pm
Post by: webadict on March 13, 2011, 01:53:54 pm
Town will be highly less motivated to let people win, and should ALWAYS follows these rules:
Never ever secretly vote. Secretly voting is a scum tell.
Win on the first Day. You will lose otherwise.
Play with two scum or less. Three scum will result in another Day.
I think that having the Town win with only living players is flat-out wrong. Either both teams should have that or neither. The Town wins a smaller point win, even if you vote one person. The expected value is the same for both teams if all team players are awarded. The expected value is ALSO the same if neither team has the rule.
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 14, 2011, 07:12:12 pm
Josh: Sounds like an interesting variant- I'd likely give it a go. It seems few people are going to get the votes needed to live, though. You're likely to hit D2 with two people many times, even with a large game.
Thank you for your feedback. The trick with the points system I've devised strongly discourages letting only a few people win each round, as that will allow them to pull into a point lead very easily. it's in the best interests of those trying to prevent people from gaining points to get as even a point distribution as possible while also killing the mafia on the first day, so that the points awarded are thinly spread out among the winning players so they don't take an overwhelming lead for the following round. This is how I imagine it, atleast.
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Err, except 8p with 2 Mafia requires that 4 people with 1 Mafia be alive. Assuming that the Mafia will only vote for each other, all other players need to not vote for Mafia to win, resulting in 3- players winning.
Town will be highly less motivated to let people win, and should ALWAYS follows these rules:
Never ever secretly vote. Secretly voting is a scum tell.
Win on the first Day. You will lose otherwise.
Play with two scum or less. Three scum will result in another Day.
I think that having the Town win with only living players is flat-out wrong. Either both teams should have that or neither. The Town wins a smaller point win, even if you vote one person. The expected value is the same for both teams if all team players are awarded. The expected value is ALSO the same if neither team has the rule.
Thank you for your feedback, Webadict. The ratio of players to mafia is intended to be very steep, with 1 mafia for every 8 players almost.
For your concern about having only living players be the only ones which score points, the way I’m imagining the game, this is the only setup that actually functions the way it’s intended. The way I see it, the game is a game of mafia, but it’s also a game where the town have to try to backstab eachother in order to try to put themselves on top. Due to the existence of point exchanging, players don’t even need to win the rounds in order to win, they only need to find creative ways to milk the leading players out of their points.
My decision for having the mafia share their points even in death is so that they have no incentive to backstab eachother, and are forced to work as a team to secure the entire pot for themselves.
The way I’ve envisioned it, it’s about players being forced to think about the long haul. Sure, a player might get lucky in the first round a take a large point lead, but then they might be discriminated against in the following rounds and then lose each successive round due to that.
I’ve invested quite a bit of thought, and really the only gamebreaking strategy I can think of is, of course, the Nao strategy where everyone shares their points so everyone can secure victory in a tie. Provided that everyone plays ball, every single player has a 100% of winning if they all share their points evenly. I might have to change the rules to preserve the ruthless spirit of the game to prevent this, but I’m willing to give it a chance.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on March 14, 2011, 07:50:11 pm
Alternatively, throw in a Bastard Round or two: All points gifted are lost forever, all points gifted are quadrupled, and standard-ish bastard modes such as "Everyone is a serial killer go go go!"
Finally, you could just make a sudden death round in the case that nobody loses. If nobody loses, then there is a turbo round in which only one person can emerge victorious.
Post by: IronyOwl on March 15, 2011, 10:37:56 pm
Any objections to putting one up sometime over the next few days?
Post by: Mr.Person on March 15, 2011, 11:04:55 pm
Post by: Book on March 15, 2011, 11:12:26 pm
BM XXI has reassured me of the need (or at least merits) of a beginner's vengeful.
Any objections to putting one up sometime over the next few days?
I have no objections and wish it great success. I also, for the record, will hold a period of mourning after such shameful debacle and will refuse to join games run by Ottofar, Tyberix or Poop until they have mended their ways or time has healed the grievous wounds they have inflicted upon the community.
Regardless of our grief, and concurrent with a beginner's vengeful, BMXXII should be up for signups; there should always be a BM for signups. Who's up for it?
Here's to hoping our next batch of newbies is better than the last!
Cheers!
Post by: Vector on March 15, 2011, 11:24:41 pm
Don't be a dick <3
Post by: webadict on March 15, 2011, 11:30:38 pm
I should probably see IF I can get the required 13 first, though. If I can't, I'll probably run another BYOR. I have plenty of ideas for BYORs, and they aren't nearly as nightmarish as KWN.
In fact, I might save KWN for summer. I'd have a lot of writing time... Hmm.
Yeah. I'll do that. Sorry Darvi and Leafy. It's getting delayed to when I have lots more spare time.
So, BYORs is up next, unless I have more people wanting a different game (Such as Vector calling for a Color Mafia or some such jazz.)
Anyone care to vote?
Post by: Vector on March 15, 2011, 11:32:34 pm
I'd like to see Color eventually, but maybe not right this minute. I already promised Pandar I'd play the flavor-heavy NSBM when he brings it out, and I'd rather not be in more than one game at a time.
Post by: Book on March 15, 2011, 11:56:16 pm
Dear Book: Don't be a dick <3
I calls'em as I sees'em. Book is as Book does. Challenge the arguments, not the arguer. Hate the sin, not the sinner. Or hate the sinner, but have the courage to tell him why. I make my choices, I take my chances. "But I say unto you, whosoever shall call his brother fool [...] shall be in danger of hell fire."
...take your pick.
In short: either state your arguments or challenge mine with reasons, don't just resort to name-calling... or in other words: don't be a lack-of-thereof.
Post by: Vector on March 16, 2011, 12:04:56 am
This is not boot camp. We are here to have fun. The newbies know that they screwed up. You already called them out in the thread where they were played their game. I don't think it's at all necessary to come out here and say this batch of newbies is bad, or that you're boycotting certain players.
It's overkill. It's ridiculous that you'd think shaming them would be appropriate. I thought the policy we had here was "play rough in games but be gentle outside of them." Why? Because then we have a good atmosphere here.
Basically, you can keep your negative opinions to yourself. If you're running a game, then yeah, say "I'd prefer if you didn't join this, because I think the behavior you've displayed would cause problems and I really don't want to take the risk." If someone is running a game that you don't want to participate in, then don't participate in it. It's in no way necessary to come over here and tell everyone "man, our newbies suck and are shameful, and I'm boycotting them." We can make our own opinions, and all you're doing is broadcasting information they might really rather not have put everywhere.
This isn't like Org, who is something of a running joke and has a good sense of humor about everything. These are not people who have been here for years. They are players who have been having issues in a couple of games, and this overreaction is entirely unnecessary.
Post by: Jim Groovester on March 16, 2011, 12:10:09 am
That was utterly atrocious and unthinkable conduct, Book. If you're not going to try to be constructive in a way that isn't condescending and smug, I'd greatly appreciate if you wouldn't say anything at all.
Since I ICed that game I feel some ownership of it, and quite frankly, your smug little post immediately after the game was over was completely counterproductive to anything I wanted to do.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 16, 2011, 12:19:35 am
The subforum has, frankly, come dangerously close to death in the past and I don't want to see it collapse because we can't attract new players.
Post by: Vector on March 16, 2011, 12:24:06 am
I agree with both the Mafia Mom (<_<) and Jim Groovester.
The subforum has, frankly, come dangerously close to death in the past and I don't want to see it collapse because we can't attract new players.
D:
I agree with both the Mafia Mom (<_<) and Jim Groovester.
D:<
Mafia Mom
I:<
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 16, 2011, 12:36:51 am
Post by: Book on March 16, 2011, 12:45:26 am
I'm sorry, I thought I was sparing your feelings by simply telling you to quit it rather than publicly reaming you.Go for it, I'm right here. There's nothing that needs be spared.
This is not boot camp. We are here to have fun.I agree with this wholeheartedly. I have said as much everytime some self-important blowhard quoted the "MAFIA IS SRS BSNS!" mantra, to which I do not subscribe. I'm here to have fun, and lurkers are harshing my high. They be screwing with my joy of the game! So I have to tell them, make sure they hear it, and, if I want my future mellow/joy/high/whatever not spoiled, I may choose to not be around those known by spoiling others' fun.
The newbies know that they screwed up. You already called them out in the thread where they were played their game. I don't think it's at all necessary to come out here and say this batch of newbies is bad, or that you're boycotting certain players.They do? Good. That was the intention. Only one has owned up to it so far, which gives me hopes for his atonement. The players in BMXXI were objectively bad, in the sense that they let the game die instead of completing it. I reserve my right to remind them of this fact so they can, as you say, know they screwed up. If they mend their ways, or if I forget (it's not like I dedicate too many neurons to their individual achievements), then it'll be fine. Until then, it's like a dog with a poop on the carpet. Point their snout to it, and hit them with a rolled-up newspaper. They may or may not understand, but if they do, we'll all be better for it.
And I'm not boycotting players. I'm boycotting known flakers as mods. I will play with any of the above because diluted at 1/15 they can't do much damage; but if I know them to be unreliable, I at the moment choose not to give them control of a weeks-spawning chunk of my attention. It is my attention, yes? I can choose to place it where I deem worthy, yes? And announce my choices too. Based maybe on my perception of their past behaviour, but ultimately on my whim, yes?
Basically, you can keep your negative opinions to yourself.I can, but I can not as well, yes? I am free to express them regardless of whether you consider them negative or positive. In my opinion, negative reinforcement is a necessary part of building a robust gaming community, as expressed by the dings in the attendance board for flakers/prods, or instances of modkilling people for rules violations. It is not just a "gold star or silence" deal, there's a "you failed" part as well.
My only motivation is a good player base. The first and foremost danger to a good player base is flakers and lurkers killing a game. People signing up to play stuff they don't ultimately play. They need to be told this is not OK. Clearly, repeatedly and with emphasis, until they understand it and either change or leave. The worst thing that can happen to a game is three or more people flaking out and needing to be replaced two or three days in. I'd rather those people hadn't joined at all.
If someone is running a game that you don't want to participate in, then don't participate in it.That's what I said. "I won't participate in games ran by these people for these reasons, at this time". People, reasons, and time are subject to changing circumstances.
They are players who have been having issues in a couple of games, and this overreaction is entirely unnecessary."Overreaction" is your opinion, and I have my own (without the "over"), but I'll grant that emotions are fresh and may have triggered a stronger/faster reaction that cooler emotions would have. Is it not the case, however, that the game end was particularly bad, and that attention needs to be called to it? Shaming them, even publicly, has the effect of the dog/carpet/newspaper thing: you don't like it? You wish it didn't happen? You wish people joined your games? Then how about you DON'T KILL GAMES BY LURKING!
Simple enough. Just saying my "negative opinions" are not only part of the "atmosphere here" but built in on prod mechanics, attendance boards, IC comments, and the like. We don't want people to lurk to the point where games die. If they do, they need to be told, forcefully, not to.
Yes?
PPE: Oh, the peanut gallery. Without the amusing big fonts:
That was utterly atrocious and unthinkable conduct, Book.What specifically: telling them lurking kills games? Telling them that the victory was hollow? Which part was "atrocious and unthinkable" and why?
The subforum has, frankly, come dangerously close to death in the past and I don't want to see it collapse because we can't attract new players.It has, yes, and it stayed alive because there were active new players, not because of the many (whose name I don't remember, but I can look up) who signed up, played for a week, and left games unfinished for others (new or old) to pick up. If the forum is still alive is because we have some players willing to see games to the end, not because we have a lot of passers-by. Sure, as I said earlier, we should always have a BM in sign ups, so we catch new active people, but those who choose to sign up and not be active... should they be pampered? Ignored, coddled, or whatever? Or told, in no unequivocal terms, that in order for them to join a game, they have to make a commitment to see it through?
Bah. I don't get you people's point. Is it not to tell lurkers not to lurk? Then I don't buy it and stand against it. I will tell lurkers not to lurk, at the top of my lungs, at every opportunity. Lurkers are what almost killed the board before. I post trackers so they can't hide away. I favour modkills instead of replaces for lurkers. I think lurkers kill games, and should be publicly shamed, shunned, and chastised until they learn better. Is this the position about which you think I am wrong? Or is it something else? If so, please elaborate.
Post by: Vector on March 16, 2011, 12:57:04 am
People are different from dogs. Do not treat people like dogs, please, because it makes me really fucking angry.
We already have our neutral system of rewards and punishments. We already have mods who regulate things and say "Well, maybe you shouldn't play in this game." We already have the ICs and the mod of the game itself to talk about what went wrong without your swooping in to tell everyone how ashamed you are of them--with nothing positive in it. You are not an arbiter. You have no more right than anyone else, and your apparent attempt to take it is disgusting. I am dismayed by your attempted display of force. These people are players here, just like you, with rights to be defended. They are not here to be hunted down and corrected, castigated, ostracized, or berated for something so minor as their actions in a beginners' mafia game.
Simply put: this is B12, and we expect better of ourselves here.
You will be a bigger man when you can alter people's behavior without making them feel like shit. You will be an even bigger one when you value the emotions of your friends here over their performance in a game.
Post by: Mr.Person on March 16, 2011, 01:06:42 am
But what if somebody flakes through the game but legitimately feels bad for it and wants to improve? They'll probably continue to check mafia-related threads. Maybe not all of them, but potentially this one and probably the one they played, right? So the only people who are gonna see your rant about how shitty a job they did are the people who are already aware of how shitty a job they did. They don't need to be reminded, ranting just makes them feel like shit and dissuades them from attempting to reform themselves in another game, because they're afraid they'll do another shitty job. Feel free to tell everybody who played the game they didn't play well to make sure they get it, but coming onto this thread to berate them some more was entirely uncalled for and seem to serve no purpose whatsoever. And don't dwell on the bad job they did, mention exactly how they can do better. That's called constructive criticism, something you are definitely not doing.
Post by: Book on March 16, 2011, 01:30:04 am
The position you're wrong about is the part where you equate people to dogs.I make the point that negative reinforcement is necessary. I use the dogs as an example where negative reinforcement is known to work. The point is not the dogs, the point is that negative reinforcement works.
People are different from dogs.
because it makes me really fucking angry.You must be mistaking me for someone who gives a fuck.
We already have [this and that...] You are not an arbiter. You have no more right than anyone else, and your apparent attempt to take it is disgusting.Every game is open for all posters after the end to come in and give their opinions of what was good, bad, different or noteworthy. We have all done it in many games, and will keep doing it. One thing I've done on most BM games in recent memory is, if it was a lurky game, to tell people not to lurk, and if it was an active one, to give compliments to the players for being active. This was a particularly bad one, so particularly bad comments were needed.
I am not an arbiter, nor I call myself one. I am a spectator of that game, and a player of others. As spectator, I have every right to tell the playing teams my opinions, right or wrong, at length. They may or may not choose to heed those opinions; I never claimed to force anyone to do anything, at most I have said what I have planned to do or not to on what basis. I have zero authority, but I have a voice, and I choose to exercise it loudly. Shouldn't I? Who are you, or he, or they, to tell me to shut up? These are my opinions and I choose to post them.
These people are players here, just like you, with rights to be defended. They are not here to be hunted down and corrected, castigated, ostracized, or berated for something so minor as their actions in a beginners' mafia game.What rights? They have no rights that I don't have. Or in the positive, they have every right I have. To tell their opinions on how to play a better game, build a better community, talk to each other, what game to run next, who may or may not join and why and so on. And sure, I have proposed (as the record shows) to be lenient about infractions in BM games, but this was a particularly bad one, so I though the point needed to be made that a different judgement by the mod and the attendance board maintainer (who happen to be the same in this case) would be in order. It is just as much my right as Painiac's to say that.
And the "beginner's mafia" excuse is valid on some, less so on others. I pointed out double shame on Ottofar, because he should know better. Ottofar has been playing here longer than I have, he should know what happens when people lurk a game into extinction. He has no excuse, and his negative reinforcement should be doubly reinforced.
One more time: I'm not calling for others to boycott them, or join or applaud or coddle or mentor or hug or whatever. I'm merely stating my personal intention and perception about those who allowed a game to fail though incompetence, and what I will do about it. I'm not recruiting. They may or may not care about what I have to say. I don't care whether they do. I say my piece, and they will choose to heed it or not. Whose rights have been infringed?
Simply put: this is B12, and we expect better of ourselves here.If I'm not welcome, say the word and I won't come back.
PPE: Person: If they read it, then they'll know my rant has but one purpose: don't lurk.
Post by: Vector on March 16, 2011, 01:37:48 am
because it makes me really fucking angry.You must be mistaking me for someone who gives a fuck.
I see that you don't care about my opinions. As such, this exercise seems somewhat futile.
All right. I'm not arguing with you any more right now because I frankly don't have the energy to waste on it.
I would appreciate it if someone else could help me explain what's going on here, but if no help is to be had then I can continue to shout away at some other time.
Post by: Darvi on March 16, 2011, 01:41:37 am
Post by: Vector on March 16, 2011, 01:48:05 am
While I do agree with book here, I don't like the way he delivers the message.
Ah, I'm sorry. Of course I agree that lurking is bad and that people should be informed of it. They can even say things like "I'm disappointed and believe that the game was lost due to flaking."
I don't think this level of vitriol, spread across this many places, is necessary.
Post by: Mr.Person on March 16, 2011, 02:05:36 am
Post by: Book on March 16, 2011, 02:12:40 am
While I do agree with book here, I don't like the way he delivers the message.a) I'm glad you agree; b) You must be mistaking me for someone who gives a fuck.
Ah, I'm sorry. Of course I agree that lurking is bad and that people should be informed of it. They can even say things like "I'm disappointed and believe that the game was lost due to flaking."So, just how much vitriol is acceptable towards newbies? (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63487.msg1511291#msg1511291) Or is your point about where? If so, then see my response to Person:
I don't think this level of vitriol, spread across this many places, is necessary.
Newbies: if you're reading this: LURKING KILLS GAMES. Don't Fucking Lurk.
I see that you don't care about my opinions. As such, this exercise seems somewhat futile.I do, but I want your reasoned arguments, not just your name calling, or what triggers which emotion, or false analogies of saying I make people into dogs or something. I am interested, if you have anything useful to say.
By the way: Pandar and Jim, you were quick to jump into agreement with yo mamma's posts. She's given up, so how 'bout you pick it up? Or were you just jumping into an easy bandwagon? If you have no further arguments, I restate what I said earlier, with a qualification: If my opinions are not welcome, say so, and if more votes are for than against then I won't come back. We'll even use the chess thread (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76814.0) for it. Just man (ahem, or lack-thereof) up and state your friggin' challenge, or shut the fuck up.
PPE: Person: learn the difference between "have" and "of" or I won't read your OOC posts. It's too painful, and I don't care enough (in-game, of course, I'll hunt your scummy ass down to the end of the Earth).
Post by: IronyOwl on March 16, 2011, 02:16:09 am
Mafia MomI find this wholly appropriate. Sorry, Vector. :P
People are different from dogs. Do not treat people like dogs, please, because it makes me really fucking angry.I hate to be a dick, but this is the opposite of what you're objecting to. If people could be assumed not to be dogs, we wouldn't have to worry about them slinking off and not coming back because someone was loud and mean to them.
Until then, it's like a dog with a poop on the carpet. Point their snout to it, and hit them with a rolled-up newspaper. They may or may not understand, but if they do, we'll all be better for it.The issue, though, is that we don't want to teach them that being on the carpet is bad, or that coming near the guy with the newspaper gets you hit. Not everyone is going to be quite so understanding that you're enraged at their play and utterly disgusted with their actions during the game, and that you mean no particular ill-will towards them in general.
For that matter, I'm not sure how crystal clear you make it that simply not doing that makes everything better again- "I hope it is remembered by [everyone] when these indecent infractors try to join more games" sounds an awful lot like you're trying to run them out of town.
Post by: Vector on March 16, 2011, 02:22:35 am
You've repeatedly said "I don't give a fuck about your opinion on the way I deliver my messages." At the same time, you say "explain why you don't want me to berate people."
You've also said "if you don't like my opinions, then I will just leave."
Therefore, it basically sounds like either a. I say GTFO or b. I argue an argument I can't win, because your response to "I really don't like it when you hurt people's feelings outside of games" is "you're mistaking me for someone who gives a fuck."
This seems sort of stupid, doesn't it.
As for why, I actually care about people's feelings. It's called empathy, sugar. You might want to look it up in a dictionary.
I don't like people coming here and being cared about more as a player than as a person. I don't like you saying "everyone remember this--heed ye!" I don't like your ultimatums, I don't like your PSAs, and I don't like the nasty way you argue.
That doesn't mean that I want you to leave. It means that I want you to change it, because I like the atmosphere here, I care about the players, and I don't think they deserve to be treated this way. By anyone.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 16, 2011, 02:24:20 am
made a comment that you should not have and I expect
better of you. You are being an immature child, stop.
Post by: IronyOwl on March 16, 2011, 02:28:41 am
Book, your comments are inflaming and not needed. You...
made a comment that you should not have and I expect
better of you. You are being an immature child, stop.
Making authoritative proclamations about how immature someone's being (and what they may or may not do) isn't really productive either- especially as you've provided no reasons why. In all seriousness, he'd have a fair amount of ground to claim you're acting like more of an immature child than he is, since he's at least felt the need to explain his assertions.
Post by: Vector on March 16, 2011, 02:32:02 am
Post by: IronyOwl on March 16, 2011, 02:34:14 am
I have to say that the "learn the difference between of and have or I will dismiss your argument on those grounds" reeks of immaturity.Point.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 16, 2011, 02:38:48 am
1 link to an old post used out of context
1 attempt to bait others
All in just his last post. If it sounds like a child, looks like
a child, and responds like a child...
Also if this keeps up we will be in danger of this thread
being locked because of it and this thread is to useful for
that.
Post by: IronyOwl on March 16, 2011, 02:44:11 am
As for getting locked, I think you're overestimating how bad it's getting in here. It's certainly out of character, but as a spike it's really not that bad.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 16, 2011, 02:47:30 am
reasons. On thread lock, you say it doesn't get that
bad and yet all I have seen of this argument is an
increase in insults. Now of course thread lock is extreme
so maybe it would be limited to banning the people
taking part in it.
Post by: Vector on March 16, 2011, 02:49:04 am
I've argued far more virulently than this before in the main forum without a word of reprimand. Far, far more virulently. Of course, this subforum pretty much exclusively polices itself.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 16, 2011, 02:52:52 am
did not know muting was possible.
Post by: Book on March 16, 2011, 03:24:31 am
The issue, though, is that we don't want to teach them that being on the carpet is bad, or that coming near the guy with the newspaper gets you hit. Not everyone is going to be quite so understanding that you're enraged at their play and utterly disgusted with their actions during the game, and that you mean no particular ill-will towards them in general.That's why we, unlike dogs, have language. We can tell them what we thought was good, bad, right, wrong, and so on, in our opinions and words; they, being smarter than dogs (we hope) will understand our words and reasons behind it, and exercise their free will, in order to modify, or not, their behaviour. It's up to us what we say, it's up to them what they do. "Us" and "them" being freely exchangeable for me, we, they, she, you, or whatever; one person says his piece, and unlike a dog, the recipient has the grammar to understand it. Whether he acts upon it or not, is up to him.
For that matter, I'm not sure how crystal clear you make it that simply not doing that makes everything better again- "I hope it is remembered by [everyone] when these indecent infractors try to join more games" sounds an awful lot like you're trying to run them out of town.
Let me put it this way. The reason why we can argue so strongly in games without impunity is that we keep it nice out here. We know that we're not really flaming each other. We're friends. We like each other. I like my games rough and my forums nice and vanilla.Sure we are, but your "nice" and my "nice" may be different. I can call a life-long friend a "self-important blowhard", or a racial epithet, or an offensive nickname. I do all the time. Maybe you don't, and that's OK, but I do. So, how's your "nice" better or nicer or more bay12ish than mine? My friends know that, amongst friends, I tell shit as it is, no holds barred. Or are your friends better than my friends, or what is your point? My point is: I calls'em as I sees'em, as I posted way earlier, and that's how I treat my friends: honestly.
You've repeatedly said "I don't give a fuck about your opinion on the way I deliver my messages."I don't. I just deliver them. You take them, or discard them, or are offended by them, or love me forever for them, or whatever, at your option. All I do is output them, the most I can say about them is that they're honest. Your reaction to the output is your input's problem.
At the same time, you say "explain why you don't want me to berate people."No, I haven't. I have not asked you to explain why I stopped beating my wife either. I am not berating anyone; I'm telling them their performance was disgraceful, they should be ashamed, and I won't join their games. If that's by you "berating" then you're better off not coming near my friends. They know how to berate... and yet we're still friends.
You've also said "if you don't like my opinions, then I will just leave."It may have been my mistake. I thought for a moment you said something like "this is how we do things around here", to which I replied "given that I do things differently, and I'm here, then either it isn't or I shouldn't be here". But maybe I misunderstood. Please elaborate.
As for why, I actually care about people's feelings. It's called empathy, sugar. You might want to look it up in a dictionary.I'm familiar with it, and I do, but when it comes to building a gaming community in this forum, I care more about activity. Most people here, by virtue of being here and playing this game, know or will know what's a thick skin and how to grow it. Growing a thick skin is part of the process of playing mafia (and indeed many consistent forum activities), and my telling, say, Argembarger, "your mother was a hampster and your father smelt of elderberries" shouldn't affect his feelings overmuch. If it does, then either he'll grow a thicker skin or he shouldn't be here, yes?
I don't like people coming here and being cared about more as a player than as a person.Never said that, never meant that. People are people first, but they're here to play a game. Their people aspect comes to the fore if they'll be busy this week, or if they have interesting ideas, or if they want to meet to play chess or poker or have a few drinks at the Bay Area or whatever, but as far as this sub-forum is concerned, there's not much soul wrangling or gnashing of teeth. If their feelings really need a cuddle, they can go hang out in one of the "hug me" threads on General Discussion.
I don't like you saying "everyone remember this--heed ye!" I don't like your ultimatums, I don't like your PSAs, and I don't like the nasty way you argue.Once again, and I'm beginning to be concerned by how often you make this point, I've never recruited, or called people to do anything they don't want to do, or given any ultimatums (other than "put up or shut up").
By PSAs I wonder if you mean the LurkerTrackers... would you like them discontinued? That can also be arranged, if people favour it, but they're generally posted for general benefit, and the source is open for people to make their own (and indeed, some have), so even if I quit them, do you want Argembarger to quit his too? Or what is your point... that the LurkerTracker should never have existed? Are we tinkering with knowledge only God should have or something?
That doesn't mean that I want you to leave. It means that I want you to change it, because I like the atmosphere here, I care about the players, and I don't think they deserve to be treated this way. By anyone.Change me? Sorry honey, prettier babes have tried and failed (wink). Seriously, I ain't changing. I give you my honest word that if a majority of people want me gone, I'll be gone, but otherwise I hate to inform you that your cherished community now includes this particular self-important blowhard: ME <===
By the way, again: Jim & Pandar: Your piece? Or are you willing to have your mom do your fighting for ya? What is it that you objected about my post to BMXXI, or about my stance on lurkers, or my language or body odor or something? Do you want me gone? Speak up or be branded as little chickens hiding under your mom's skirt.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 16, 2011, 03:32:52 am
So you say that a new player should grow a thickerAs for why, I actually care about people's feelings. It's called empathy, sugar. You might want to look it up in a dictionary.I'm familiar with it, and I do, but when it comes to building a gaming community in this forum, I care more about activity. Most people here, by virtue of being here and playing this game, know or will know what's a thick skin and how to grow it. Growing a thick skin is part of the process of playing mafia (and indeed many consistent forum activities), and my telling, say, Argembarger, "your mother was a hampster and your father smelt of elderberries" shouldn't affect his feelings overmuch. If it does, then either he'll grow a thicker skin or he shouldn't be here, yes?
skin as you go about poking him? You don't start with
thick skin, you develop it and you don't get a chance
if someone drives you off first.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 16, 2011, 03:35:05 am
build a better community
This.
This is where I object.
Book, you are breaking down the wall between tactically exploiting anger (that of yourself and that of other players) within games, and being a roaring douchebag out of games. You have crossed lines even webadict at his most furious never crossed.
I would presently prefer you not leave. You're a good player, the LurkerTracker is one of the best things that has happened for this board, and I agree that lurking kills games. But if you cannot conduct yourself with a basic respect for the other members of this board as people and demonstrate the politeness appropriate to other human beings, I will (as per your challenge) vote for you to leave, because I don't think someone who will continue to introduce as much sheer malice as you have belongs here.
I mean honestly:
By the way: Pandar and Jim, you were quick to jump into agreement with yo mamma's posts. She's given up, so how 'bout you pick it up? Or were you just jumping into an easy bandwagon? If you have no further arguments, I restate what I said earlier, with a qualification: If my opinions are not welcome, say so, and if more votes are for than against then I won't come back. We'll even use the chess thread (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76814.0) for it. Just man (ahem, or lack-thereof) up and state your friggin' challenge, or shut the fuck up.
Vector gets tired of your bullshit and you decide to call out other people so you have more people to argue with (or troll, as it were)? I mean, seriously? It's pretty obvious from how you said that phrase that you just were looking for more people to piss off. This thread is not the "troll other players" thread, it's the Games Threshold Discussion and List, for useful discussion about games and whether they're going into signups, not the Rage Rage Hate Thread for how you're not going to join games hosted by players who have just joined the subforum because they don't play perfectly yet or for how you love to fuck around with other Mafia players outside of games as much as you do in them.
tl;dr: I will accept your politeness or your absence, but would prefer the former.
PPE: Wow, uh, you demonstrated exactly what I'm talking about in that post.
Post by: Vector on March 16, 2011, 03:38:43 am
Please try to keep yourselves calm and civil.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 16, 2011, 03:39:50 am
Post by: Mr.Person on March 16, 2011, 05:25:33 am
Because mafia is srs bsns.
Post by: Darvi on March 16, 2011, 05:35:54 am
I don't give a fuck either. But you don't see me being that agressive do you.While I do agree with book here, I don't like the way he delivers the message.a) I'm glad you agree; b) You must be mistaking me for someone who gives a fuck.
Whatever.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 16, 2011, 05:38:20 am
off, I vote for Book.
Post by: Book on March 16, 2011, 06:08:19 am
I would presently prefer you not leave. You're a good player, the LurkerTracker is one of the best things that has happened for this board, and I agree that lurking kills games. But if you cannot conduct yourself with a basic respect for the other members of this board as people and demonstrate the politeness appropriate to other human beings, I will (as per your challenge) vote for you to leave, because I don't think someone who will continue to introduce as much sheer malice as you have belongs here.I don't understand your point here. You know I tell shit like it is, in and out of games. You know I'm not shy about voicing my opinions. I care about people's feelings as much as I care about, say, their religion or some other personal thing:
Quote from: H.L.Mencken
We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart.
I care about what they say, if they back it up. I care about their feelings, as long as they have a thick enough skin to hear objections. I'm not here to cuddle anyone. I try not to hurt people (and I've pulled back (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=78265.msg2041252#msg2041252) when I thought my comments were hurtful), but I don't go out of my way to cuddle them. Does anyone need more cuddling? Maybe you should go hang out at one of the several "I need a hug" threads on the General Discussion forum instead of here...
Since we're taling about "community": Some of us are more prone than others to post about our personal lives. Some are more reserved. We know about Pandar's midterms, or Ottofar's battles with nature and electricity, but we don't dig too deep unless invited; do you know whether Org has a significant other and what it's characteristics are? Or Dariush or Tolyk or MBP's gender, age, location, job? How old was Dakarian, his profession or home city? Anything about him/her other than a cat? No, we don't and we like it that way, that's how it's supposed to be. We enjoy each other's company, whoever and however we are, virtues and defects, and some more than others, without my having to exchange my curriculum vitae for yours, and we build a community just with that. This is a great thing, which should be promoted and cherished. We ask nothing of each other, but the ability to play this game to completion, and toleration (or even enjoyment) of each other's company. That's it. And that's great. This is not your dating site, your therapy session, your pastor or confessor, or the "life advice" section. Play well, be witty and smart, share some activities, and we're fine. What else are you asking of people?
Ironically, wuba and Vector know more about me than anyone else here, precisely because in my early days I unknowingly tried to cuddle her feelings too much by corresponding to her anomalous exhibitionism...
Vector gets tired of your bullshit and you decide to call out other people so you have more people to argue with (or troll, as it were)? I mean, seriously?I'm calling out the two people (Jim and You) who were extremely fast to jump in and say "I agree with all she said!!" to put your money where your mouth is. Why? How? What? Where?
You may call it trolling, in the sense that I'm inciting people to post objections, but they said they had them, and I know them to be articulate and capable of more than a "me too", so either put up or shut up. It sounds to me like someone "above reproach" like Vector chastised someone with whom you disagreed, and you were quick with the reply button but not with the brain. Or maybe not: prove me wrong:
Jim Fucking Groovester: You said my post on BMXXI was disgraceful and undermined your intentions: how so? Pandar: you said "The subforum has, frankly, come dangerously close to death in the past and I don't want to see it collapse because we can't attract new players." How am I precluding that, and do you make a distinction between "new players" and "new active players"? How many newbies signing up for BMs and leaving in a week do you need? Am I giving any messages other than "DON'T LURK" (and maybe "grow a thick skin")?
This thread is not the "troll other players" thread, it's the Games Threshold Discussion and List, for useful discussion about games and whether they're going into signups [...]For good or ill, this is the "talk about the Mafia subforum" thread. Or is there a better one? Or shouldn't we talk about the subforum? Because this is the very thread where the old fogies were talking about how dead it was back when I joined, and how iSketch was a great thing, and how someone was taking some classes or exams or whatever... I thought this was the place where we could talk about what games we would or would not join for whatever reasons... Is there a better thread, or is your point "don't talk about it"?
tl;dr: I will accept your politeness or your absence, but would prefer the former.You know the link. If now or later you'd prefer my absence, I challenge you to challenge me for it. I will respond, and will act in accordance to an honourable challenge once we select an impartial arbiter. Like last time. If the sub-forum wants me gone, I will be gone. The lurkertracker source is posted and others have it, they can continue to happen without me.
Once again: Jim and Pandar: I am who I am, and I'll continue to be it. I call shit as I see shit and name it shit. I hate lurkers, because they kill games, so I post trackers and call them out at every opportunity. Lurkers killed the one game I tried to run (VM5 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=71786.0)). I fucking hate lurkers. What is it you want? For me to stop hating them? (no way); stop telling them I hate them? (only in certain contexts); stop saying I won't join their gaimes? (no, fuck you and them); cuddle their fragile sensitivities with a hug and a kiss? (only if they're really hot and really close); want me to be "nicer"? (I'm as nice as I'm going to be); want me gone? (say so on the other thread, and I will)... Or say: what the fuck is your point?
Post by: Mr.Person on March 16, 2011, 06:15:50 am
Post by: Book on March 16, 2011, 06:37:12 am
Post by: Toady One on March 16, 2011, 06:39:23 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 16, 2011, 06:42:53 am
PPE: Or that. That works, too. I guess I'll need a replacement for him in WWYDT.
Post by: Mr.Person on March 16, 2011, 07:04:07 am
I mean, who's gonna wanna replace into a game for just three days?
Post by: Ñ on March 16, 2011, 08:04:22 am
I've muted Book for 3 days for acting like a jerk.
I think Book shouldn't have posted that one last trivial reply to Person's shallow comment. The longer one would have been a better farewell comment for posterity. Oh well. It is, as they say, what it is.
In any case, if you haven't been following the news: Toady One has cast the final deciding vote: he doesn't want me to talk, and I don't know how not to talk, so I go talk elsewhere. I stand by my contributions and post history as being productive and insightful, and to the winners go to write the history books. The source code for the LurkerTracker remains on the thread, and I think Arg and JTF have copies. I still have the real-time-fetching upgrade to do (it's mostly working now). If I happen to have forum access when I complete it, I may post it, if people want it.
...Oh well. We had fun. I kinda knew it was time to go when I lost my first game ever as scum (VM6). At least I was never lynched outside of a BM.
Post by: webadict on March 16, 2011, 08:11:03 am
Book, I actually think your post in BMXXI wasn't too bad. Just remove the stuff where you're trying to be humiliating, since there ARE players that should be humiliated, and those newbies hardly qualify. You can yell at them, sure, because they did, in fact, lurk at the end, but they were playing before that end, so there's no need.
Which is to say the last line might want to be tweaked. Really, that's about it. And a couple of things said here.
I mean, this little argument here was kinda stupid, but that's another topic entirely that I'd rather not get started.
People, he got right to the point in the post (in BM): Lurking is a major game-killer. Don't lurk! You signed up for a game that you said you would complete, and if you weren't able to complete it, then you are obliged to tell the moderator. One person told me that they weren't able to finish the game, and I felt that was very mature, but one person simply stopped posting, didn't reply to my PM, and didn't warn me. That is a major problem, and also constitutes a major rule violation that I'll probably update in May or something.
You should probably stop. If you want to fight about it, come back in three days, when you're likely NOT to be banned because you will be arguing respectably then. Nobody wants you to leave. Toady One is doing his job.I've muted Book for 3 days for acting like a jerk.
I think Book shouldn't have posted that one last trivial reply to Person's shallow comment. The longer one would have been a better farewell comment for posterity. Oh well. It is, as they say, what it is.
In any case, if you haven't been following the news: Toady One has cast the final deciding vote: he doesn't want me to talk, and I don't know how not to talk, so I go talk elsewhere. I stand by my contributions and post history as being productive and insightful, and to the winners go to write the history books. The source code for the LurkerTracker remains on the thread, and I think Arg and JTF have copies. I still have the real-time-fetching upgrade to do (it's mostly working now). If I happen to have forum access when I complete it, I may post it, if people want it.
...Oh well. We had fun. I kinda knew it was time to go when I lost my first game ever as scum (VM6). At least I was never lynched outside of a BM.
Post by: Toaster on March 16, 2011, 08:20:07 am
So, BYORs is up next, unless I have more people wanting a different game (Such as Vector calling for a Color Mafia or some such jazz.)
Anyone care to vote?
Speaking of voting, we haven't had a Vote Mafia in a while.
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Post by: TolyK on March 16, 2011, 08:58:24 am
???
...
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Post by: IronyOwl on March 16, 2011, 09:32:47 am
Post by: webadict on March 16, 2011, 09:43:45 am
Post by: Mephansteras on March 16, 2011, 12:21:44 pm
Anyway, Tolyk, do you have a thread for the game yet? So far all I've seen is "We wanna run a game, and it's mostly vanilla. Anyone want to join?" which I think is why no one is talking about joining it. It's not enough information.
I'd say start a thread on it, post all of the rules for it and what the general flavor is going to be, and let us know (and link to it). Then people can look it over and you can get an idea for how interested people are and if not what they're not interested in.
Post by: Vector on March 16, 2011, 12:24:58 pm
Sheesh. I'm gone from this place for one day and guys erupt in drama. I hate it when Toady gets called into my threads. :(
Sorry, sorry =/
I thought we were just going to scuffle a little and it would be all right. Rather, I thought that comment would be taken as lightly as it was presented. In any case, I imagine this was partially my fault, so... I'm sorry.
Post by: TolyK on March 16, 2011, 12:31:40 pm
Sheesh. I'm gone from this place for one day and guys erupt in drama. I hate it when Toady gets called into my threads. :(waiting for akhier to post it ;)
Anyway, Tolyk, do you have a thread for the game yet? So far all I've seen is "We wanna run a game, and it's mostly vanilla. Anyone want to join?" which I think is why no one is talking about joining it. It's not enough information.
I'd say start a thread on it, post all of the rules for it and what the general flavor is going to be, and let us know (and link to it). Then people can look it over and you can get an idea for how interested people are and if not what they're not interested in.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 16, 2011, 12:32:15 pm
Post by: Darvi on March 16, 2011, 12:34:56 pm
Post by: TolyK on March 16, 2011, 12:39:26 pm
Waiting for me? I was waiting for you.hahaha lol.
lets get this started, shall we?
:P
...
you first.
Post by: Darvi on March 16, 2011, 12:41:48 pm
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 16, 2011, 12:41:55 pm
the thread?
Post by: webadict on March 16, 2011, 12:46:41 pm
By the by wuba, when are you starting the KWN?I'll have to start it a while from now. Probably two month's time or so.
Mostly because the sheer amount of work involved is more than my school days can handle. Ironic, considering I'm doing mostly nothing. Actually, that's not irony. It'd be ironic if there was sheering involved. That's not really important, though.
Anyhow, if you plan on staying for that long, I can open up a Mod Discussion QT for you to join, so you'll get a gist of what it's about and what you'll be writing.
Post by: Mindmaker on March 16, 2011, 12:47:54 pm
I'm sorry for not having preformed at my best, after my first BM.
So long as I can't solve my motivational problems, playing another game would be pointless and unfair on the other players.
Right now, even seeing other players being inactive, can drop my enthusiasm to zero.
While the circumstances in my first BM weren't ideal, I'd found a nemesis and discussing everything to great lenghts, had simply been too much fun.
As little as a comment from Ottofar has caused me to drop my second BM.
3rd game was Kingmaker and I stayed passive until I became King myslef. Before that, the feeling of powerlessness was simply too much to bear.
In BYOR, I got pissed off by Org quite early and then suffered under the great silence, that followed soon.
As you can see, I'm a burden to any game right now.
I'd like to ask for forgiveness from any mod and player, who hoped for a good game.
Anyway, I wish best of luck to all of you.
I hope I can return someday and preform at least as good as in my first game.
Post by: Vector on March 16, 2011, 12:50:32 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on March 16, 2011, 01:03:04 pm
Actually, that sounds like it could be a good theme for a mafia game.
Post by: Ottofar on March 16, 2011, 01:38:09 pm
Mindmaker, I hope that you come back soon~! I like having you here =)
This, yeah, Mindmaker's cool.
But anyways, I'm gonna take a break too after the games I'm in are over. I need to 'get my shit together' as they say.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 16, 2011, 01:48:19 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on March 16, 2011, 02:21:03 pm
I guess there's an unwritten rule that you can be angry and confrontational in game or when talking about that game immediately, as long as you don't hold a personal grudge. Hate the role they played, not the player. You can exclude people from your games if their activity has been poor if you like, but this should be done in a polite way.
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Post by: Jim Groovester on March 16, 2011, 02:56:35 pm
Post by: Toaster on March 16, 2011, 03:01:33 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 16, 2011, 03:05:59 pm
Also, who here would be interested in me putting my NSBM/NMM into signups now? I think I'm going to be going with 9 players (2 being scum) if that sounds good. I've asked before, but is there any preference on which of NSBM/NMM people would like?
Post by: Darvi on March 16, 2011, 03:15:02 pm
NSBM/NMM*thinkthinkthink*
Sorry, doesn't ring a bell.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 16, 2011, 03:27:03 pm
NSBM: 5 Townies, 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Doctor, 1 Mafioso, 1 Mafia Roleblocker. I'll probably add change Mafioso to Godfather for the purpose of the Cop not being overpowered.
Also, Toony and I won as confirmed scum against two confirmed townies, one of whom I got lynched. :3
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=46678.0
NMM: Similar setup. 6 Vanilla Townies, 1 Town Doctor, 1 Mafioso, 1 Mafia Roleblocker.
They're simple setups that are nearly, but not quite, purely vanilla. They encourage good day play and have a lot of room for flavor, which is what I want to focus on mainly, since BYORs make consistent flavor nigh-impossible and the only flavor WWYDT could accommodate is "Brain of an insane chaos mage."
Post by: Leafsnail on March 16, 2011, 03:41:58 pm
Post by: Mindmaker on March 16, 2011, 04:35:31 pm
Probably has something to do with "being nice".
Post by: Vector on March 16, 2011, 04:54:06 pm
I don't really understand.
Probably has something to do with "being nice".
More like ironic, given what I quickly evolved into after that game >_>
Post by: Org on March 16, 2011, 05:09:19 pm
I seem to remember NSBM2 was the game where I called Vector "inneffectual" in scumchat, forgetting that everyone would be able to read it after the game >.>Heh. I remember that game.
Post by: Mindmaker on March 16, 2011, 05:16:56 pm
I don't really understand.
Probably has something to do with "being nice".
More like ironic, given what I quickly evolved into after that game >_>
I wasn't replying to Leafsnail.
Post by: Heliman on March 16, 2011, 06:09:13 pm
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 16, 2011, 09:53:07 pm
I'm not sure how the internal machismo of the mafia game rotation works nowadays, but if there's enough interest I'll just be starting it rightaway and avoid the confusion.
Post by: Toaster on March 16, 2011, 11:34:02 pm
Sooo, that's 1 for Vote Mafia.
Ooor... Bring your own Vote Mafia.
Post by: Vector on March 16, 2011, 11:35:16 pm
I'm not sure how the internal machismo of the mafia game rotation works nowadays, but if there's enough interest I'll just be starting it rightaway and avoid the confusion.
M... machismo?
Just go for it. It's a-OK, and I've been pressing more games to start anyway.
Post by: Heliman on March 17, 2011, 12:37:03 am
I'm not sure how the internal machismo of the mafia game rotation works nowadays
In a nutshell?
This is noncommittal, passive newbscum crap. I've got you pegged.
Scummy scum scum scum.
Scumface.
Scumbucket.
Scummy McScummypants.
Scumbottom Scumworth.
The 2011 No offence award goes to Heliman: for meaning no offense to Jim Groovypants.
Post by: Jim Groovester on March 17, 2011, 01:13:54 am
Post by: Heliman on March 17, 2011, 03:01:10 am
Post by: webadict on March 17, 2011, 07:09:14 am
...Like BYOR but with Vote Mafia powers? Or like BYOR with Vote Mafia roles?Sooo, that's 1 for Vote Mafia.
Ooor... Bring your own Vote Mafia.
Post by: Toaster on March 17, 2011, 08:05:37 am
Post by: RedWarrior0 on March 17, 2011, 04:48:32 pm
If you survive the night.
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 17, 2011, 07:24:24 pm
I started up a topic, so I hope that people will join.
Also, I think I came up with a pretty effective change that will prevent the 'all players tying to win' scenario.
Post by: webadict on March 17, 2011, 08:00:15 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 17, 2011, 08:50:42 pm
Post by: TolyK on March 18, 2011, 12:07:57 am
been nagging lately.
Post by: Vector on March 18, 2011, 12:08:57 am
question: penguin avatars?
been nagging lately.
Inaluct started making them. It's a B12 meme.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 18, 2011, 12:11:26 am
Post by: Heliman on March 18, 2011, 12:12:00 am
Post by: Mr.Person on March 18, 2011, 01:01:28 am
Which is ironic, because I'm pretty sure Dwarf Fortress doesn't even have Penguins.
If I remember correctly, weren't penguins on the Animal Sponsoring thing?
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 18, 2011, 01:04:15 am
I have all of them continually looping in the background) that
there is no penguins.
Post by: Mr.Person on March 18, 2011, 02:52:31 am
Post by: webadict on March 18, 2011, 07:20:30 am
question: penguin avatars?There's a whole history behind them. I've posted it here somewhere before (like three times), so if you find the post, kudos.
been nagging lately.
Basically, you'll only find the cool kids with them. Or rather, the people that have been playing Mafia for a long enough time to be part of the Penguin fad. But we're hard-core loyalists.
Post by: TolyK on March 18, 2011, 10:34:29 am
[rerail]
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 18, 2011, 10:40:42 am
and join in.
Post by: TolyK on March 18, 2011, 10:45:58 am
Only need 7 more players over at Crumbled Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=79797.0), comeninja, i swear i was just about to post that...
and join in.
Post by: Supercharazad on March 18, 2011, 12:08:24 pm
Post by: TolyK on March 18, 2011, 12:10:18 pm
Post by: Vector on March 18, 2011, 12:10:49 pm
We need another beginners mafia.
Yes, we do.
Post by: TolyK on March 18, 2011, 12:11:42 pm
agreed.We need another beginners mafia.
Yes, we do.
(i might need some more practice :P but maybe not BM)
Post by: lordnincompoop on March 18, 2011, 01:54:47 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on March 18, 2011, 02:05:14 pm
Post by: Heliman on March 18, 2011, 03:07:18 pm
Go for it.
Post by: IronyOwl on March 18, 2011, 06:26:01 pm
Also, beginner's vengeful would have started by now if I weren't so goddamned lazy.Go for it.
Post by: webadict on March 18, 2011, 07:19:36 pm
You choose your role from Xylbot's list and get modified accordingly. Basically, it's a battlefield that resets every time KING MAFIA dies. Roles remain the same from Round to Round (and all one-shots will remain gone), but KING MAFIA will shift every Round.
I was reading through it, and I was laughing when Vector said the game was nearly unwinnable :P Showed her. It's a good read, as most people weren't expecting it to end at Round 4.
Post by: Toaster on March 18, 2011, 09:14:16 pm
In the meantime, I'd like to put up another game. What's the interest level for a mostly normal 13-player game right now? I had an idea I wanted to try.
Post by: Vector on March 18, 2011, 09:19:26 pm
(Something like 3-4 in signups, IIRC)
Post by: webadict on March 18, 2011, 09:20:24 pm
I suspect that there's too many games just open right now, but once something ends you should try it out.It's 3 in Sign-ups right now, if you don't include NSBM, which I don't.
(Something like 3-4 in signups, IIRC)
But, my game will be out of Sign-ups soon.
Post by: Vector on March 18, 2011, 09:22:14 pm
In a week, I think it would be appropriate, though.
Post by: webadict on March 18, 2011, 09:27:47 pm
Ah, well, I mean 3 in signups/on the verge of starting, plus the beginner's games that are about to arrive... in any case, it simply "feels" like the past two days have been too busy.I think YOU would be appropriate in a week!
In a week, I think it would be appropriate, though.
Post by: Vector on March 18, 2011, 09:31:14 pm
Post by: Toaster on March 18, 2011, 09:31:53 pm
Waiting a week works for me.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 19, 2011, 01:48:02 am
Crumbled Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=79797.0) is halfway to starting. We just need 6 more people.
Post by: Vector on March 19, 2011, 01:49:35 am
In general, people usually just migrate down here from time to time.
Post by: TolyK on March 19, 2011, 01:52:02 am
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 19, 2011, 01:55:52 am
so. You see the word is made up of a combination of "in"
and "sane" thus the "in" modified the "sane" and so because
I have never been sane I can not be "in" it.
Post by: TolyK on March 19, 2011, 01:58:08 am
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 19, 2011, 02:09:38 am
being judged along side it. To never have been sane means
to be beyond such confines of reality.
Post by: Heliman on March 19, 2011, 02:41:16 am
In general, people usually just migrate down here from time to time.*raises hand*
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 19, 2011, 02:44:21 am
To be insane is to be limited by sanity because you are
being judged along side it. To never have been sane means
to be beyond such confines of reality.
Semantics.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 19, 2011, 02:47:21 am
by the boundary of sanity. What seems insane now
may not be so somewhere else. To not have ever been
sane is to be outside of the whole system allowing
greater freedom because then the pass of time and
culture means nothing before it.
Post by: Vector on March 19, 2011, 02:48:55 am
Sorry, this is not a good day for Vector. I'm tangling with adware and about a billion spyware scanners.
Post by: lordnincompoop on March 19, 2011, 02:51:29 am
Oh my god can we keep the Nietzsche out of the threshold thread?
Sorry, this is not a good day for Vector. I'm tangling with adware and about a billion spyware scanners.
Use MBAM on a USB in safe mode.
Alternatively, a reformat and Linux.
EDIT: Also, shall I have BMXXII include playing ICs?
Post by: Jim Groovester on March 19, 2011, 03:00:26 am
If you decide to have playing ICs you can sign me up as one.
Post by: Heliman on March 19, 2011, 03:05:48 am
Post by: Vector on March 19, 2011, 03:20:24 am
Use MBAM on a USB in safe mode.
MBAM?
Fucking Norton is fucking useless :I
Post by: lordnincompoop on March 19, 2011, 03:44:00 am
Use MBAM on a USB in safe mode.
MBAM?
Fucking Norton is fucking useless :I
That's because fucking Norton is fucking useless.
Much better, and free to boot. (http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php)
Post by: IronyOwl on March 19, 2011, 04:50:46 am
On that note, what's everyone's recommendations for ICs in VBM? Right now I'm leaning towards an IC who's expected to act like he's playing, but has no vote and can't be killed. As I've said, I prefer the playing ICs feel, but I think the game's probably too small to swap one out. Maybe not.
Sorry, this is not a good day for Vector. I'm tangling with adware and about a billion spyware scanners.When all else fails, get your stuff off there and reformat. You should ideally do that every now and then anyway, but irritating parasites are an extra good excuse.
Also, the mental image of nuking the site from orbit might be cathartic, depending on this and that.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 19, 2011, 05:06:33 am
Post by: TolyK on March 19, 2011, 06:52:26 am
A reformat and Linux.This.
Alternatively, use MBAM on a USB in safe mode.
About BM IC's playing... i dunno. Maybe.
Post by: webadict on March 19, 2011, 08:44:36 am
Must... hold... tongue...Use MBAM on a USB in safe mode.
MBAM?
Fucking Norton is fucking useless :I
Post by: TolyK on March 19, 2011, 08:48:32 am
and Ad-Aware too...
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 19, 2011, 09:29:17 pm
We went from halfway to quarter way. That is just annoying!
Crumble Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=79797.0) really needs you! come join in!
Post by: Heliman on March 19, 2011, 09:32:07 pm
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 19, 2011, 09:34:36 pm
Post by: Toaster on March 19, 2011, 10:55:45 pm
Post by: TolyK on March 20, 2011, 12:02:34 am
What in the world! I just had 3 people get out of my game.err yeah. that was bad.
We went from halfway to quarter way. That is just annoying!
Crumble Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=79797.0) really needs you! come join in!
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 20, 2011, 12:04:26 am
Post by: Vector on March 20, 2011, 12:09:06 am
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 20, 2011, 12:10:37 am
or more anyway. Its the fact that people are abandoning it.
Post by: Vector on March 20, 2011, 12:12:59 am
I don't mind slow, I was not expecting it to fill up for a week
or more anyway. Its the fact that people are abandoning it.
Yeah, but I think your numbers were artificially inflated by the people who really needed a BM. After they've gotten their legs, they'll probably come back.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 20, 2011, 12:14:44 am
the moment.
Post by: Heliman on March 20, 2011, 12:15:42 am
Post by: Ottofar on March 20, 2011, 04:30:05 am
Post by: TolyK on March 20, 2011, 04:40:27 am
....
Yeah. WAAY too many mafia games. WAAY too few players.
Post by: IronyOwl on March 20, 2011, 06:32:56 am
Also, it is the weekend. Things should pick up soon.
Post by: webadict on March 20, 2011, 07:32:15 am
Post by: IronyOwl on March 20, 2011, 07:39:33 pm
Post by: Org on March 22, 2011, 04:37:33 pm
Post by: Darvi on March 22, 2011, 04:50:15 pm
Post by: lordnincompoop on March 22, 2011, 04:51:18 pm
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on March 22, 2011, 04:51:27 pm
Post by: Ottofar on March 22, 2011, 04:53:45 pm
What?
Post by: Darvi on March 22, 2011, 04:57:33 pm
Also, he wrestled Cthulhu to death.
Post by: Vector on March 22, 2011, 04:58:39 pm
I am planning on running a Bring Your Own Historical Figure.
Oh my god oh my god
Post by: lordnincompoop on March 22, 2011, 04:59:29 pm
Oh my god oh my god
Why am I not surprised.
Oh, right.
Post by: Darvi on March 22, 2011, 05:01:11 pm
Post by: Org on March 22, 2011, 05:01:53 pm
Post by: Jack A T on March 22, 2011, 05:04:35 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on March 22, 2011, 05:07:52 pm
Hey! Listen! Join Bring Your Own Interjection! Hurry! Now!
I would fix the "BRO should be BYO" mistake, but Org already pointed it out. Plus it's actually kinda funny.
Post by: Mindmaker on March 22, 2011, 05:09:03 pm
I am planning on running a Bring Your Own Historical Figure.
Huh, interesting.
Will be watching that.
Post by: Darvi on March 22, 2011, 05:09:23 pm
Post by: Org on March 22, 2011, 05:10:04 pm
I'd actually prefer BRO Mythological Figure than just any old historical figure. BYO TV Character would probably be my absolute theme right now., although any themed BYOR is completely fine with me.BRO?
Hey! Listen! Join Bring Your Own Interjection! Hurry! Now!
Whaaaaat. Lol.
Post by: Ottofar on March 22, 2011, 05:16:58 pm
Post by: Darvi on March 22, 2011, 05:18:10 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on March 22, 2011, 05:33:23 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on March 22, 2011, 06:51:33 pm
BYOBYORI made that suggestion a while ago.
Seriously, the BYOHF would be awesome for roles.
Also, Bring Part of Your Own Role and Part of Someone Else's. Basically, exactly what it says on the tin. You keep the first role, then the second gets mashed into someone else's first role. You get someone else's second role mashed into your own.
Post by: Org on March 23, 2011, 09:17:26 pm
Post by: TolyK on March 24, 2011, 08:25:53 am
Unless anyone cares, I plan on putting BYOHF into signups soon-ish, so it should probably go into Games in Queue.AUTO-SIGNUP
...
how do you play these kinds of games exactly? I get the basic picture but...
:D
Post by: lordnincompoop on March 24, 2011, 10:31:45 am
Unless anyone cares, I plan on putting BYOHF into signups soon-ish, so it should probably go into Games in Queue.AUTO-SIGNUP
...
how do you play these kinds of games exactly? I get the basic picture but...
:D
You play them like you would normally?
Post by: TolyK on March 24, 2011, 10:34:28 am
Post by: webadict on March 24, 2011, 11:14:32 am
Post by: Toaster on March 24, 2011, 12:06:04 pm
We have five running games, one in signups (not counting KotM which is running and signups at the same time), and a BM waiting to start. I'd like to put up another game while Roguelike 1 finishes and refine it for a second run. Would people prefer:
Smalltown (All player's roles are known publically)
A 13p game with generally standard roles that has a theme
A 13p game with a twist
I'm down for any of them, with a slight bias toward the last one. I'd wait a little bit to put it in signups, so running games could wind down a bit more. Let me hear your opinions!
Post by: lordnincompoop on March 24, 2011, 03:05:50 pm
Just out of curiosity, how many games are there usually here?
Post by: Heliman on March 24, 2011, 06:52:41 pm
TBH right now I'm sick of themed games (which we seem to have a lot of), so one with a twist sounds great.Speaking of Mafia games, HOW IS THE FLAVOR FOR THE BM COMING ALONG? HMMMM?
Post by: lordnincompoop on March 24, 2011, 07:03:36 pm
TBH right now I'm sick of themed games (which we seem to have a lot of), so one with a twist sounds great.Speaking of Mafia games, HOW IS THE FLAVOR FOR THE BM COMING ALONG? HMMMM?
I'm still busy, and a significant portion of my waking hours is now being occupied by napping, as paradoxical as that is.
It's going well, and it'll be the most flavour heavy game I'll have run - though considering I've only run one before this (and a relatively flavour light one at that), I guess that's not too hard.
But it'll be a lot of flavour. In quantities comparable to that of Vector's game and NSBM, hopefully.
Post by: Vector on March 24, 2011, 07:04:47 pm
Post by: lordnincompoop on March 24, 2011, 07:09:44 pm
Wow, it seems like I've sparked a movement <3 <3 <3
That, and the fact that I was severely disappointed in my own performance in Vanilla Mountainous. I was procrastinating, and the flavour was chickenscratch made up at the last minute.
I'm still making it last-minute, and still procrastinating to an extent, but hopefully this time around it won't be chickenscratch, or whatever you want to call it.
Post by: SaintDraze on March 25, 2011, 10:25:24 am
Post by: Darvi on March 25, 2011, 10:26:23 am
Post by: SaintDraze on March 25, 2011, 10:41:17 am
Post by: RedWarrior0 on March 25, 2011, 10:42:31 am
Cake. Death pits. Fire. Turrets. Stuff.BYOR: Choices-style portal guns.
Post by: SaintDraze on March 25, 2011, 10:45:04 am
Post by: Darvi on March 25, 2011, 11:09:12 am
Post by: SaintDraze on March 25, 2011, 11:15:51 am
Those rules >:D
It's a bastard mod. The First day will probably be the only thing that resembles a normal game day...
Post by: TolyK on March 25, 2011, 11:53:49 am
Auto-join
Post by: SaintDraze on March 25, 2011, 12:58:34 pm
Post by: Darvi on March 25, 2011, 12:59:36 pm
Post by: TolyK on March 25, 2011, 01:03:55 pm
I'd like to host It... But I am an inexperienced mod, Does anyone want to co Mod with me?i would if i didn't want to play :P
Post by: Darvi on March 25, 2011, 02:36:41 pm
Post by: webadict on March 25, 2011, 03:03:25 pm
So, uh, wuba. If you're not going to make that quicktopic is it okay if I do?I've already made it, but it's empty. I was going to do that this weekend. Possibly even today.
Post by: Darvi on March 25, 2011, 03:04:55 pm
Post by: Org on March 25, 2011, 05:09:56 pm
Unless people have a problem but I dunno.
Post by: Darvi on March 25, 2011, 05:18:35 pm
Post by: Org on March 25, 2011, 06:13:27 pm
Startling. Anyway, yeah. Awesome.
Post by: Mindmaker on March 25, 2011, 06:18:23 pm
I've got the basic idea, roles and abilities pretty much worked out in my head, biggest issue would be balancing.
Not that I'm saying, that I'm planning on running one anytime soon.
Just being curious, if anyone else had such an idea, or even attempted/succeded in it.
Post by: Vector on March 25, 2011, 06:21:31 pm
Not that I'm saying, that I'm planning on running one anytime soon.
Just being curious, if anyone else had such an idea, or even attempted/succeded in it.
They ran a version over at the xkcd subforums, which you might want to check out.
Post by: Mindmaker on March 25, 2011, 06:46:34 pm
Since it's very role heavy, you need a big amount of players. Good flavor is pretty much needed, an area where I would be lacking (in english, at least).
Should I feel motivated anytime soon, I'll probably write down the concept.
Once I've returned and finish some more games, it could be done, should we be able to gather enough players (mafia forum needs more love :/).
I'd still probably need help with balancing and/or flavor though.
Post by: Zai on March 25, 2011, 08:00:43 pm
Not to play games though. Oh well.
Post by: SaintDraze on March 28, 2011, 08:28:17 am
Hmm, a list of roles from that game would be great. Maybe I overlooked it...
Since it's very role heavy, you need a big amount of players. Good flavor is pretty much needed, an area where I would be lacking (in english, at least).
Should I feel motivated anytime soon, I'll probably write down the concept.
Once I've returned and finish some more games, it could be done, should we be able to gather enough players (mafia forum needs more love :/).
I'd still probably need help with balancing and/or flavor though.
I can help with flavor if you want...
Post by: Mephansteras on March 28, 2011, 12:54:47 pm
Post by: Vector on March 28, 2011, 12:55:59 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 28, 2011, 01:00:21 pm
Fixed.
Post by: Toaster on March 28, 2011, 01:02:22 pm
1. Smalltown (All player's roles are known publically)
2. A 13p game with generally standard roles that has a theme
3. A 13p game with a twist
4. Roguelike 2
I have two votes for option three, and I'd like to refine Roguelike before I put up 2. (I do have the game semi-planned out, though.) Any more votes? It'll probably be a bit before it goes to singups since several are in signups now.
Post by: TolyK on March 28, 2011, 01:20:08 pm
also, for some cryptic reasons someone revived my old mafia game. I just need folks to confirm that they're still interested, then I guess I'll start the gameplay.
Post by: Org on March 30, 2011, 06:03:31 pm
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 31, 2011, 02:37:34 pm
I could have done much better, but in retrospect I was obstinate, obfuscating, and obstantatious. It was my first time playing mafia in a long time, but I still think I could have done better.
And I want to say that I have a fondness for homophones, but I know that's not the right word.
Post by: TolyK on March 31, 2011, 02:39:34 pm
very fun to read.
Post by: webadict on March 31, 2011, 03:40:47 pm
Post by: Vector on April 01, 2011, 01:06:24 pm
Its been added to the games archive, guys, so you should go take a look!
If I didn't have school to deal with, I'd sign up for something else. Maybe over the summer, especially if KWN: WE runs then.
Post by: TolyK on April 01, 2011, 01:08:54 pm
Post by: webadict on April 01, 2011, 01:56:14 pm
Post by: Darvi on April 01, 2011, 02:02:50 pm
Post by: webadict on April 01, 2011, 02:10:54 pm
Maybe.
Post by: TolyK on April 01, 2011, 02:12:51 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 01, 2011, 02:13:27 pm
Post by: Toaster on April 01, 2011, 02:22:13 pm
Grand Poobah of the Mafia
Godfather of the Mafia
In any case, sign up- that queue is looking mighty empty.
Post by: Darvi on April 01, 2011, 02:37:36 pm
Boss of the mafia
Post by: TolyK on April 01, 2011, 02:46:02 pm
Post by: Darvi on April 01, 2011, 03:40:11 pm
God of the mafia :P
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on April 01, 2011, 03:41:25 pm
Post by: webadict on April 01, 2011, 05:21:04 pm
Post by: Vector on April 01, 2011, 05:25:10 pm
Post by: webadict on April 01, 2011, 05:26:05 pm
Waitin' for a gametype I like :3Wanna play iSketch?
Post by: Vector on April 01, 2011, 05:27:14 pm
Give me a minute so that I don't have to trackpad.
Post by: webadict on April 01, 2011, 05:28:35 pm
FUUU--yes.A'ight. It'll be under Bay12. Come on and join everyone.
Give me a minute so that I don't have to trackpad.
Post by: webadict on April 01, 2011, 05:32:36 pm
Also, not sure where the iSketch thread is, so if someone could update that, too, that'd be awesome.FUUU--yes.A'ight. It'll be under Bay12. Come on and join everyone.
Give me a minute so that I don't have to trackpad.
Post by: Vector on April 01, 2011, 05:35:41 pm
Post by: webadict on April 01, 2011, 05:44:28 pm
Post by: webadict on April 01, 2011, 07:04:12 pm
Post by: Vector on April 01, 2011, 07:05:28 pm
Vecotr has disapparated
My internet committed suicide.
Post by: webadict on April 01, 2011, 07:52:46 pm
I appreciate the irony.Vecotr has disapparated
My internet committed suicide.
Post by: Toaster on April 01, 2011, 11:39:19 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 02, 2011, 12:08:11 am
Post by: Heliman on April 02, 2011, 02:11:07 am
Post by: webadict on April 02, 2011, 08:22:58 am
Post by: Ottofar on April 02, 2011, 08:25:54 am
Post by: TolyK on April 02, 2011, 08:33:02 am
Do we need a BYOR? I'll start one some time later if there's support.sgin me up, I guess I have time for a byor ;) need to find out how bad i am at them
Post by: webadict on April 02, 2011, 09:22:31 am
It's like playing Hot Potato. If you were on acid the entire time. And the potato were radioactive. And sometimes I shot people for no reason.Do we need a BYOR? I'll start one some time later if there's support.sgin me up, I guess I have time for a byor ;) need to find out how bad i am at them
Just like Hot Potato.
Post by: Toaster on April 02, 2011, 10:24:39 am
Post by: webadict on April 02, 2011, 11:30:15 am
BYOHF is in N1 if that makes a difference to you.Is that... for or against?
Post by: Darvi on April 02, 2011, 11:32:00 am
And I just had the weird Idea for a Bring Your Own Touhou Character mafia. I really should find something else to waste my time with.
Post by: webadict on April 02, 2011, 11:49:13 am
I think an against... maybe? It is a Byo Mafia after all.Yeah, but it's no longer in Sign-Ups, so people can't join. Ya know?
And I just had the weird Idea for a Bring Your Own Touhou Character mafia. I really should find something else to waste my time with.
Post by: Darvi on April 02, 2011, 11:53:20 am
Post by: webadict on April 02, 2011, 12:13:59 pm
Ya, but people that have already joined might be hesitant to join another one. But I dunno.Right, which is why I'm seeing how many people are for a BYOR before I open it. I figure if there's at least... oh, I dunno, 8, then I'll run it.
Post by: Darvi on April 02, 2011, 12:19:13 pm
Post by: Toaster on April 02, 2011, 05:24:50 pm
BYOHF is in N1 if that makes a difference to you.Is that... for or against?
It's a "meh." Life is verging toward crazy, so my time isn't great, but on the other hand NSBM:PE ended early.
Also, Bad Dudes Mafia is going up.
Post by: webadict on April 07, 2011, 08:44:57 am
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on April 07, 2011, 08:46:44 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 07, 2011, 09:39:30 am
*Still traumatized by the BYOR 5.5: Revives Forever*
Post by: Toaster on April 07, 2011, 10:14:49 am
I'm up for pretty much anything, since I'm out of every game but KotM.
Post by: TolyK on April 07, 2011, 11:21:16 am
Anyone else for a BYOR?sgin me up. please.
I wanna play a bastard mod :D
also: my mafia game is somehow a zombie ???
Post by: webadict on April 07, 2011, 11:59:20 am
It's not so much a Bastard Mod, as there are relatively few hidden elements. And I try not to put those in. Usually. Unless it's hilarious.Anyone else for a BYOR?sgin me up. please.
I wanna play a bastard mod :D
also: my mafia game is somehow a zombie ???
Alright, I think I'll run it. They are my favorite type of games to run.
Post by: TolyK on April 07, 2011, 12:22:43 pm
PM ME THE LINK!It's not so much a Bastard Mod, as there are relatively few hidden elements. And I try not to put those in. Usually. Unless it's hilarious.Anyone else for a BYOR?sgin me up. please.
I wanna play a bastard mod :D
also: my mafia game is somehow a zombie ???
Alright, I think I'll run it. They are my favorite type of games to run.
Post by: webadict on April 07, 2011, 12:25:24 pm
Send me a role and you're in.PM ME THE LINK!It's not so much a Bastard Mod, as there are relatively few hidden elements. And I try not to put those in. Usually. Unless it's hilarious.Anyone else for a BYOR?sgin me up. please.
I wanna play a bastard mod :D
also: my mafia game is somehow a zombie ???
Alright, I think I'll run it. They are my favorite type of games to run.
And by role, I literally mean anything. Okay, this is the internet, so NOT literally anything. Just... try to be civil about it.
Post by: Darvi on April 07, 2011, 12:32:32 pm
Post by: webadict on April 07, 2011, 12:50:00 pm
Even haruhi suzumiya? Hurhurhur.I don't get it?
Post by: TolyK on April 07, 2011, 12:50:33 pm
Even haruhi suzumiya? Hurhurhur.lol
Post by: Darvi on April 07, 2011, 12:52:44 pm
Somehow you never get anything I say :/Even haruhi suzumiya? Hurhurhur.I don't get it?
You know, GOD?
Post by: webadict on April 07, 2011, 12:55:17 pm
No ever tried to pick God, period. So, yes.Somehow you never get anything I say :/Even haruhi suzumiya? Hurhurhur.I don't get it?
You know, GOD?
Post by: Leafsnail on April 07, 2011, 01:09:13 pm
Post by: TolyK on April 07, 2011, 01:10:56 pm
anyways, I sent another PM (sorry :-\)
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 07, 2011, 02:15:30 pm
Post by: webadict on April 07, 2011, 02:22:28 pm
I'll make sure you're all semi-confused by my latest monster of a creation.
Post by: TolyK on April 07, 2011, 02:25:05 pm
Post by: Darvi on April 07, 2011, 02:30:30 pm
Or rather, count on it, but for entirely different reasons.
Post by: IronyOwl on April 07, 2011, 02:50:11 pm
I don't think so. But I'm not sure.Well now I have to play. Just gotta think of a role...
I'll make sure you're all semi-confused by my latest monster of a creation.
Post by: SaintDraze on April 07, 2011, 06:19:59 pm
Anyone want some cake?
its moist and delicious :3
Post by: webadict on April 07, 2011, 07:29:26 pm
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on April 07, 2011, 07:31:56 pm
Post by: SaintDraze on April 07, 2011, 07:35:32 pm
:o
Post by: Vector on April 07, 2011, 07:57:05 pm
Post by: Toaster on April 07, 2011, 08:01:24 pm
Three strings walk into a bar. The first one goes up to the bartender and says "Gimmie a beer." The bartender looks at him and says "We don't server strings here."
The second thinks if he asks really nicely, he should get a drink. So he goes up to the bartender and says, "Excuse me, but may I please have a drink, if it's not too much trouble?" The bartender looks at him and says "We don't serve strings here- get out."
The third string walks into the bathroom, messes up his hair, and ties himself in a loop. When he walks out, the bartender says to him, "You're not one of those strings, are you?"
The string says "Nope, I'm afraid not."
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 07, 2011, 08:02:48 pm
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on April 07, 2011, 08:04:52 pm
BONK BONK and the Rabbi Ducks.
Post by: SaintDraze on April 07, 2011, 08:06:51 pm
Whats worse then finding a worm in your apple?
The Holocaust.
>.>
Post by: Toaster on April 07, 2011, 08:07:07 pm
Who dreamed he was eating his shoe
He awoke with a fright
In the middle of the night
To find that his dream had come true
So a baby seal walks into a club...
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on April 07, 2011, 08:07:43 pm
Post by: Toaster on April 07, 2011, 08:15:43 pm
Meph, what are you hosting next?
Post by: SaintDraze on April 07, 2011, 08:17:27 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on April 07, 2011, 09:30:02 pm
Meph, what are you hosting next?
Not really sure. I got laid off recently, which has oddly given me less time to work on stuff like this since I'm busy looking for a new job.
I doubt whatever it is will be another RP. That was an interesting experiment, and I may do it again some time, but I think I'll probably do a regular Paranormal or Supernatural next.
Lots of stuff in sign-ups right now, though, so I'll probably hold off a bit until the queue gets a bit smaller.
Post by: Vector on April 07, 2011, 09:37:57 pm
Not really sure. I got laid off recently, which has oddly given me less time to work on stuff like this since I'm busy looking for a new job.
Huuu, sorry to hear about that. Best of luck to you.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 07, 2011, 09:48:58 pm
Not really sure. I got laid off recently, which has oddly given me less time to work on stuff like this since I'm busy looking for a new job.
Huuu, sorry to hear about that. Best of luck to you.
Thanks :)
It's not quite as bad as it sounds, since there was a really good severance package. But I still want to get a new job as soon as possible. It's too easy to slack off and find yourself without a job when the money runs out.
Post by: TolyK on April 09, 2011, 05:14:43 am
Post by: Heliman on April 11, 2011, 10:08:13 pm
Post by: webadict on April 11, 2011, 10:29:32 pm
Gah, the admin for BMXXII is 5 hours late. It's 3 AM GMT.Eh? It happens.
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 11, 2011, 10:40:26 pm
The variation I have in mind requires only a 52 card deck of playing cards, plus a joker.
The deck is shuffled so that the order of cards is random. Then through whatever mechanism, one of the players is chosen to 'interrogate and decide' first.
On game start, each player is dealt one card. Each player then looks at their card, without revealing it to the other, and then the first round begins.
(All cards, 1-10, Jack, queen, king, and ace, are all town. The joker signifies mafia.)
The player whose turn is first is allowed to ask the opposite player any questions, and observe his/her body language before making a decision of either "Town" or "Mafia".
If a player chooses "Town", then the turn passes to the other player. If he chooses "Mafia", then he flips the other player's card, and if it's town, then the guessing player loses. If it's the joker, then he wins.
If both players choose town, then both players reveal their cards. If a player was called 'town' when he/she was in fact holding the joker, then that player wins.
If both players are holding town cards, then those two cards are placed into a discard pile, and the next round begins, where each player is dealt another card, where the process then repeats until a winner is decided.
What do you guys think?
Post by: Heliman on April 11, 2011, 10:53:22 pm
:IGah, the admin for BMXXII is 5 hours late. It's 3 AM GMT.Eh? It happens.
Post by: TolyK on April 12, 2011, 02:00:57 am
however, I support this with 3 players.
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 12, 2011, 06:03:45 am
Hmm, I don't like the idea of taking turns, a single lurker could mess the whole game up, but what the hell do I know, I'm new :P.
It's not really possible to lurk. I probably should have mentioned that I intended for this to be a real-life mini-version of mafia, intended for small groups of friends.
So it's not possible to lurk, since your opponent would be sitting right across the table from you.
@Joshua: that would actually not work very well at 2 people - some sets have two jokers ;), if not it's way too easy for the mafia.
however, I support this with 3 players.
Just a 52 card deck with a joker. Any extra jokers can be removed beforehand. The style of game is meant to be a battle of wits and deception between the two players, since it's not only possible to win by being randomly dealt the joker and deceiving your opponent into thinking you're town, but it's also possible to win by being town, and tricking your opponent into thinking you're mafia.
In other words, it's very different from standard in that there's no night or day phases, no role actions, no moderator, and the game is turn-based.
Although I suppose the rules can be easily modified to include more players, the style of game, I feel, is best with only 2.
Post by: Darvi on April 12, 2011, 06:05:32 am
Post by: TolyK on April 12, 2011, 06:41:16 am
You you have both the mafia and jester wincon? Interesting.this.
me like. I must try this sometime.
Post by: webadict on April 12, 2011, 07:28:22 am
I've had an idea, a variation of mafia that would allow two people to play 1v1:The game breaker is simply not looking at your card. Chances will be you're Town, so if you draw the Joker and don't look at it, you'll assume you're Town.
The variation I have in mind requires only a 52 card deck of playing cards, plus a joker.
The deck is shuffled so that the order of cards is random. Then through whatever mechanism, one of the players is chosen to 'interrogate and decide' first.
On game start, each player is dealt one card. Each player then looks at their card, without revealing it to the other, and then the first round begins.
(All cards, 1-10, Jack, queen, king, and ace, are all town. The joker signifies mafia.)
The player whose turn is first is allowed to ask the opposite player any questions, and observe his/her body language before making a decision of either "Town" or "Mafia".
If a player chooses "Town", then the turn passes to the other player. If he chooses "Mafia", then he flips the other player's card, and if it's town, then the guessing player loses. If it's the joker, then he wins.
If both players choose town, then both players reveal their cards. If a player was called 'town' when he/she was in fact holding the joker, then that player wins.
If both players are holding town cards, then those two cards are placed into a discard pile, and the next round begins, where each player is dealt another card, where the process then repeats until a winner is decided.
What do you guys think?
Post by: Darvi on April 12, 2011, 07:29:31 am
Post by: TolyK on April 12, 2011, 08:13:12 am
That could be easily circumvented by forcing the players to look. By rubbing it in their face if you must.or by adding another player :D
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 12, 2011, 08:15:18 am
Odds are though, you'll actually win a lot less often than that against a player that IS looking at their card. This is because they can jerk you around with their questions, give fake scum tells, and taunt you into calling mafia when they're actually town.
I suppose that if neither player is looking at their card, then the game is completely up to chance.
I've thought of a name for my game though: Jokers and Jesters;
Where every card is a jester except one, the joker. Make your opponent guess wrong.
It has a nice ring to it, I think.
Post by: TolyK on April 12, 2011, 08:17:04 am
The problem I see with WA's gamebreaker, is that you're leaving the game up to chance. By not looking at your card, you might win 50% of the time, seeing as how you'll only win if you get the joker, a chance shared equally by both players. So you'll only break even, at best.sounds great!
Odds are though, you'll actually win a lot less often than that against a player that IS looking at their card. This is because they can jerk you around with their questions, give fake scum tells, and taunt you into calling mafia when they're actually town.
I suppose that if neither player is looking at their card, then the game is completely up to chance.
I've thought of a name for my game though: Jokers and Jesters;
Where every card is a jester except one, the joker. Make your opponent guess wrong.
It has a nice ring to it, I think.
a variant is where the royalty are yet another group of "survivors" :D
Post by: Leafsnail on April 12, 2011, 08:59:04 am
The game breaker is simply not looking at your card. Chances will be you're Town, so if you draw the Joker and don't look at it, you'll assume you're Town.Same with regular mafia. It's actually a reason why you'd usually want to introduce some roles (like maybe a cop) to prevent this.
Post by: SaintDraze on April 12, 2011, 09:39:41 am
Post by: Darvi on April 12, 2011, 09:42:14 am
Post by: TolyK on April 12, 2011, 09:45:42 am
I guess no one wants cake :cif there's cheese involved...
Cake is pretty much a taboo with me around. I guess they're too scared of me.*both selves chuck darvi into the winery*
bettar nao?
Post by: Darvi on April 12, 2011, 09:49:43 am
Post by: webadict on April 12, 2011, 12:32:13 pm
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 12, 2011, 01:01:30 pm
I think not knowing your own alignment has little to no effect on your ability to guess another player's unless there are significantly fewer cards.
What I'm trying to say is: by not looking at your own card, you're removing one of the three ways you can win.
While yes, having no idea what your alignment is doesn't in any way hinder your ability to deduce another person's alignment, it also means you can't bluff either.
Since you're not looking at your card, your opponent will never, ever call Mafia on you. It's not a sane choice. That being said, you can only win through getting lucky and being dealt the joker; and being able to deduce when your opponent is dealt the joker.
Post by: Darvi on April 12, 2011, 01:02:50 pm
Post by: webadict on April 12, 2011, 02:08:15 pm
I fail to see how you're any more likely to win.
Which is why you need fewer cards. If there are 3 cards, there's a 66% chance of a Mafia in the game, so not looking at your card makes it detrimental, as you lose any sort of knowledge and it becomes a guessing game.
Now if you want to argue about psychological game theory, it's probably less likely that a scum will drop scumtells than a townie, since they'll want you to guess scum. A scum will drop less obvious tells, while a Town will drop stupid obvious tells. Though, there's no point in saying anything at all, and keeping a straight face and using their guess as a way to determine their alignment.
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 12, 2011, 03:26:50 pm
I placed so much emphasis on the lack of bluffing in the no-look strategy, because that's where most players will be scoring most of their wins, in my opinion. This is because there would be 53 cards in the deck at the start of every game, and the players use up 2 each round, meaning a maximum of 26 rounds.
( I probably should have mentioned it earlier, but in the odd case where the joker is the last card in the deck, then the game is a draw. A 53 card deck is necessary, so that no player can be trapped in an unwinnable scenario in the last round. )
The way I imagine it, there is quite a lot psychological pressure in addition to the need to hide and give tells. Depending on the Joker's starting position in the deck, there can be 10, 15, or 20 rounds of "Town. Town. New round" before the game is decided. That's a lot of rounds of not looking at your card and hoping things will go alright.
This is because what I said earlier, the fact that a player facing a 'no-look' player will never call mafia, is not true. There's an odd chance of him calling mafia as the number of cards in the deck decrease, and his chances of making a successful call increase with each round.
Plus, that's 10-20 rounds of a normal player throwing feints and maneuvers to try to get a no-look player to guess wrongly.
Though I don't really understand when you said:
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To be fair, the same could be said of you. If your opponent never guesses Mafia, you never guess Mafia.
I must have misrepresented the rule. The moment that someone calls mafia, the winner is decided. The card flips, and the game ends with whomever won that game. Pick up all the cards from the discard pile, reshuffle, and start over.
The fact that the winner can be decided with each round, piles on a lot of psychological pressure, I believe.
Now WA, I don't want to discard the "3-card deck" idea or whatever you had in mind. I'm sure it would be it's own fulfilling game, but it's not what I had in mind.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 12, 2011, 07:22:23 pm
Now here's a stupid idea: laconic mafia. Like the Twitter mafia, but you can only post votes and unvotes.VoteVoteVote VoteVote VoteVote Vote VoteVoteVoteVote VoteVoteVote Vote VoteVote VoteVoteVote
Post by: Vector on April 12, 2011, 07:25:24 pm
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... If I understood morse code, I'd let you know precisely how much you won with that >_>
Post by: webadict on April 12, 2011, 07:33:18 pm
Somebody was never a boy scout.VoteVoteVote VoteVote VoteVote Vote VoteVoteVoteVote VoteVoteVote Vote VoteVote VoteVoteVote
... If I understood morse code, I'd let you know precisely how much you won with that >_>
Post by: Vector on April 12, 2011, 07:37:44 pm
... In other words, I'm going to spend the requisite two hours to pick that up this summer >_>
Post by: IronyOwl on April 12, 2011, 07:44:30 pm
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No ;_; Such is the sad and pathetic lot of women!What? Don't girl scouts need to know morse code to help with their cookie smuggling? I can't imagine what else they'd be doing. :<
... In other words, I'm going to spend the requisite two hours to pick that up this summer >_>
Post by: Vector on April 12, 2011, 07:50:45 pm
... Yup.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on April 12, 2011, 08:14:31 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 12, 2011, 08:15:01 pm
Post by: Vector on April 12, 2011, 08:17:38 pm
To be fair, Vector, those are all useful skills.
Haha, I was making an attempt at joking--because what I stayed home and learned were "manly" skills, rather than what the girl scouts seemed to be. "Fake bellyaching," I guess.
I also learned to embroider, sew, and knit, so... ha. I got the best of both worlds. Nyaaaah~
Post by: webadict on April 12, 2011, 08:47:14 pm
There's a sexist joke in there somewhere, but I don't know if I want to get punched. Plus, it's quite possible you have magic powers.To be fair, Vector, those are all useful skills.
Haha, I was making an attempt at joking--because what I stayed home and learned were "manly" skills, rather than what the girl scouts seemed to be. "Fake bellyaching," I guess.
I also learned to embroider, sew, and knit, so... ha. I got the best of both worlds. Nyaaaah~
Post by: Leafsnail on April 13, 2011, 08:18:35 am
No ;_; Such is the sad and pathetic lot of women!Hey, our scout group allows girls. I'm sure we could make you an honorary member! Then you can learn how to
... In other words, I'm going to spend the requisite two hours to pick that up this summer >_>
Post by: Vector on April 13, 2011, 12:30:47 pm
If you're starting fires with matches, rather than a bow-and-drill method, I'm good, thanks. My mom is the sort of person who can drive fence posts, build houses, and fix cars :3
Post by: SaintDraze on April 13, 2011, 01:59:38 pm
Or is it just because I am hosting it?
Q_Q
Post by: JanusTwoface on April 13, 2011, 02:07:44 pm
Post by: Ottofar on April 13, 2011, 02:10:58 pm
Post by: SaintDraze on April 13, 2011, 02:31:20 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 13, 2011, 02:43:26 pm
Post by: webadict on April 13, 2011, 04:50:24 pm
I'm not a fan of Bastard Mods, m'self. A lot of people aren't. They can be frustrating.I can safely say I'm NOT lying anywhere in my game.
Post by: Vector on April 13, 2011, 04:58:46 pm
I don't like them. At all.
Also, I have very little spare time.
Post by: TolyK on April 14, 2011, 01:17:54 am
they're fun to read, too :P
Post by: SaintDraze on April 14, 2011, 08:46:22 am
It's not like I am going to be tacky with the flavor, theres going to be more then just cake and portal mechanics involved in the game...
Post by: IronyOwl on April 14, 2011, 03:49:25 pm
Post by: webadict on April 14, 2011, 04:39:16 pm
I'm reliable!
Post by: Tyberix on April 14, 2011, 05:28:11 pm
Post by: lordnincompoop on April 14, 2011, 05:57:24 pm
Post by: breadbocks on April 15, 2011, 12:03:19 am
Would it be acceptable for me to host a BYOT2, or do I need to prove I'm a better mod than player first?
Post by: Vector on April 15, 2011, 12:04:39 am
Interest check: May be running a Bastard Mod in the summer. It'll involve royal succession, and will be a game where it will also be in their best interest to backstab and/or sabotage other players. I will avoid lying, but may do it if I can find a way to make it interesting. There will be as many hidden mechanics as I can afford to make. As flavour-heavy as I can possibly make it.
Will play.
I need to prove I'm a better mod than player first.
This is a true statement, especially with things like BYOR. I had a hard enough time hosting a bloody Beginner's game and making it nice for everyone involved, so I strongly advise trying something else first.
Post by: Darvi on April 15, 2011, 12:07:19 am
However, with me being part of it, the bastardiness has doubled.
You could even say that the rules *puts on sunglasses* will be screwed with.
YEEEEAAAAAAAHHH!!
Post by: Darvi on April 15, 2011, 01:03:44 pm
Post by: TolyK on April 15, 2011, 01:09:03 pm
I got way too rusty in the RTD forum :-[
...
:P
Post by: Darvi on April 15, 2011, 01:12:43 pm
Post by: Zrk2 on April 15, 2011, 05:06:32 pm
Post by: Darvi on April 15, 2011, 05:11:48 pm
Post by: lordnincompoop on April 15, 2011, 05:34:12 pm
Post by: Jack A T on April 15, 2011, 06:12:08 pm
I have a hankering for that Mafia gametye - don't remember the name - where you're always at LYLO. Often short and intense. If someone can bring one up around about now I'd definitely be interested.
Vengeful?
Post by: Ottofar on April 15, 2011, 11:05:46 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on April 16, 2011, 12:04:42 am
Speaking of which, I still intend to do Beginner's Vengeful. I didn't when I said I would because I'm incredibly lazy, and by the time I got off my ass the regular BM was in signups, then not quite starting, then needing replacements, and I sort of didn't want to step on its toes. Now everyone's dead so I should go do that.
Post by: lordnincompoop on April 16, 2011, 05:01:31 am
I have a hankering for that Mafia gametye - don't remember the name - where you're always at LYLO. Often short and intense. If someone can bring one up around about now I'd definitely be interested.
Vengeful?
Yes, that's the one!
I'll start one this evening, once I get home.
Thanks, Ottofar.
Sounds awesome.
Speaking of which, I still intend to do Beginner's Vengeful. I didn't when I said I would because I'm incredibly lazy, and by the time I got off my ass the regular BM was in signups, then not quite starting, then needing replacements, and I sort of didn't want to step on its toes. Now everyone's dead so I should go do that.
You should start one, yes. And thanks.
Post by: Ottofar on April 16, 2011, 09:54:13 am
Post by: TolyK on April 16, 2011, 11:44:00 am
Post by: IronyOwl on April 17, 2011, 04:40:27 pm
Comments welcome.
Post by: Toaster on April 17, 2011, 05:45:34 pm
On an unrelated note, Bad Dudes Mafia will be cancelled Monday sometime if it doesn't fill.
Post by: Heliman on April 25, 2011, 11:17:34 pm
Post by: Toaster on April 26, 2011, 03:40:21 pm
Post by: Darvi on April 26, 2011, 03:53:58 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 26, 2011, 06:34:11 pm
I'd prefer to IC but if no one steps up I'll go ahead and run it.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 26, 2011, 09:17:19 pm
Post by: Toaster on April 26, 2011, 09:50:07 pm
As for which one, I vote Paranormal, though I'd play either.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 26, 2011, 09:51:44 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 26, 2011, 10:11:20 pm
Post by: TolyK on April 27, 2011, 12:53:31 am
Who's going to run the next Beginner's Mafia?I dunno, I'm kinda too busy with at least 10 games (mafia and other) that I'm in, but I might be able to IC (although I play mafia badly, so bad idea :P)
I'd prefer to IC but if no one steps up I'll go ahead and run it.
Post by: Ottofar on April 27, 2011, 07:05:07 am
Don't expect it to be too flavor heavy, if I do.
Post by: lordnincompoop on April 27, 2011, 06:17:13 pm
I dunno, I'm kinda too busy with at least 10 games (mafia and other) that I'm in, but I might be able to IC (although I play mafia badly, so bad idea :P)
Not to put too fine a point on it, but I don't think you should be ICing just yet.
How interested are people in me running the next Paranormal or Supernatural?
Quite interested, but only as a spectator for now.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 27, 2011, 06:19:36 pm
I can run it if there are no other volunteers.
Don't expect it to be too flavor heavy, if I do.
I don't feel this is a good idea considering your rather minimal participation as a player.
Post by: TolyK on April 27, 2011, 11:06:37 pm
I'd really rather not run another game until the summer (or June-Julyish to be more precise), but if people want me to (or if it's really necessary) I'll run BMXXIII.i know, bad joke :PI dunno, I'm kinda too busy with at least 10 games (mafia and other) that I'm in, but I might be able to IC (although I play mafia badly, so bad idea :P)
Not to put too fine a point on it, but I don't think you should be ICing just yet.
Post by: Ottofar on April 28, 2011, 12:40:00 pm
I can run it if there are no other volunteers.
Don't expect it to be too flavor heavy, if I do.
I don't feel this is a good idea considering your rather minimal participation as a player.
Yeah.
On the other hand, modding doesn't take that much effort, unless flavor heavy.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 28, 2011, 12:46:38 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on April 28, 2011, 12:47:39 pm
Post by: Toaster on April 28, 2011, 01:11:35 pm
That'd put us for one game in signups. What is requested? Bad Dudes didn't fill, I only got one point of interest for Roguelike... what do people want hosted?
Post by: Darvi on April 28, 2011, 01:24:25 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 28, 2011, 02:13:43 pm
Post by: webadict on April 28, 2011, 03:22:44 pm
Post by: Vector on April 28, 2011, 03:36:10 pm
I really need some winding-down stuff to do, because my life has suddenly gotten a lot more hairy.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 28, 2011, 05:13:57 pm
my life has suddenly gotten a lot more hairy.
Oh baby </obligatory>
Post by: Heliman on May 05, 2011, 02:23:26 am
Post by: Vector on May 05, 2011, 02:27:23 am
I just looked into the really old games and found the very first beginners mafia. In his very first quote of his very first game, Jim edited his own post. So cuuuute! It's like looking at a baby picture of all of you, stumbling around bright and bleary eyed. I want to pinch all of your internet cheeks.
. . .
That game was pretty embarrassing, huh? I hadn't even ever typed "fuck" yet. Oh, if past-me could look at present-me now...
Post by: Heliman on May 05, 2011, 02:46:34 am
Post by: Jim Groovester on May 05, 2011, 03:22:10 am
I just looked into the really old games and found the very first beginners mafia. In his very first quote of his very first game, Jim edited his own post. So cuuuute! It's like looking at a baby picture of all of you, stumbling around bright and bleary eyed. I want to pinch all of your internet cheeks.
D'awwwwwshucks.
If there were only a salty hardass like me to tell me that I was fucking wrong the whole time. Well, there was webadict, but there was never any message that any advice he'd give would be completely impartial and given in good faith. I probably wouldn't have listened anyway.
Also shut up nubface kiss my glooouuuriously experienced ass. It glistens with the brightness of intuition and pattern recognition amongst new and experienced players.
Post by: webadict on May 05, 2011, 01:10:12 pm
And this is the angry guy, mind you.
Post by: Vector on May 05, 2011, 01:13:02 pm
Yeah, I swear a lot. I don't think it's really a big deal, though. I just found my "polite" "scumhunting" kind of risible.
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 05, 2011, 02:43:49 pm
risible.
You REALLY like that word.
Post by: Vector on May 05, 2011, 02:48:00 pm
risible.
You REALLY like that word.
What, I don't use it that often, do I?
But yeah, I like it.
Post by: webadict on May 05, 2011, 03:07:01 pm
So now I townhunt. It's easier, and they don't pull stunts like that.
It is unfortunate that this doesn't work in multiparty games.
Post by: Leafsnail on May 05, 2011, 05:14:00 pm
If it makes all of you feel any better, I have never sworn in any posts. Ever. It really made playing Will Smith in TM5 difficult.Ah yes. You find other ways to be a prick.
And this is the angry guy, mind you.
Prick prick prick prick prick
Post by: Mr.Person on May 05, 2011, 05:30:46 pm
Post by: webadict on May 05, 2011, 11:55:54 pm
Post by: JoshuaFH on May 06, 2011, 09:22:02 pm
I've had an idea, a variation of mafia that would allow two people to play 1v1:
The variation I have in mind requires only a 52 card deck of playing cards, plus a joker.
The deck is shuffled so that the order of cards is random. Then through whatever mechanism, one of the players is chosen to 'interrogate and decide' first.
On game start, each player is dealt one card. Each player then looks at their card, without revealing it to the other, and then the first round begins.
(All cards, 1-10, Jack, queen, king, and ace, are all town. The joker signifies mafia.)
The player whose turn is first is allowed to ask the opposite player any questions, and observe his/her body language before making a decision of either "Town" or "Mafia".
If a player chooses "Town", then the turn passes to the other player. If he chooses "Mafia", then he flips the other player's card, and if it's town, then the guessing player loses. If it's the joker, then he wins.
If both players choose town, then both players reveal their cards. If a player was called 'town' when he/she was in fact holding the joker, then that player wins.
If both players are holding town cards, then those two cards are placed into a discard pile, and the next round begins, where each player is dealt another card, where the process then repeats until a winner is decided.
The changes I have in mind change how the game is played, and adds some complexity, I think:
There are two win conditions: obtaining ten points (1 point obtained from making your opponent guess wrong) or reducing the deck to 2 or less cards, in which case the person with the most points wins. Let me elaborate on that second one a bit, as some of the rule changes concern how the deck of cards is treated.
The game plays as normal, described above, but with the additional caveat that the loser of a round gets to decide several things:
1. If the round was won by the joker being revealed, then the loser of the round gets to decide who will shuffle the joker back into the deck. Whoever he chooses, the opposite player then has the choice to cut the deck after the shuffle, before the cards are dealt for the next round.
- the deck will only be shuffled in this circumstance. Otherwise normal play will then resume.
2. The jester cards placed into the 'discard pile' can either by shuffled back into the deck, or exiled from the game the game permanently, making the total cards in the deck smaller.
- The second win condition cannot be met when both player have an equal number of points, the jesters must always be shuffled back into the deck. This prevents the game from ending in a draw.
-- In the chance that the joker is the last card in the deck, then that round is a draw, jesters are shuffled, and the last person to lose a round gets to decide who shuffles.
I think this makes the game a bit more thorough in it's rules, since this decides how the physical deck is handled, and on how draw conditions are treated.
Post by: lordnincompoop on May 09, 2011, 01:03:38 pm
I'd like to make a general call to IC in this game for anyone with some games under their belt, free time and plenty of patience.
Post by: IronyOwl on May 09, 2011, 04:44:50 pm
Post by: Solifuge on May 15, 2011, 04:02:41 am
Next time a Bastard or BYOR Mafia rolls around, I need to get in on it. Much as I hate to admit it... I miss you guys, your crazy shenanigans, and all that delightful Fauxrocity mafia creates.
Post by: lordnincompoop on May 15, 2011, 05:21:38 am
Since the damand for a Bastard's is rising, I'll probs put one up in a week or two. Not the royal succession one, but revolving around a different concept.
Post by: Toaster on May 15, 2011, 01:15:20 pm
Poking through old messages, I found a link to my old Mason Chat (http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/FtghSaUMxVAzi) from GlyphGryph's Quick Bastard Redux (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=68923.285). Me and Zathras/Book, in a magnificent whirligig of aliases, backstabbing, making amends, more backstabbing, gloating, admissions of defeat, and more twists than you could shake Alfred Hitchcock at. Ah, nostalgia...
Next time a Bastard or BYOR Mafia rolls around, I need to get in on it. Much as I hate to admit it... I miss you guys, your crazy shenanigans, and all that delightful Fauxrocity mafia creates.
There's a couple games that need replacements- Web's BYOR and Pandar's game that is like a BYOR on crack-laced steroids.
Post by: TolyK on May 15, 2011, 01:17:09 pm
And please do fill in for others...
Post by: lordnincompoop on May 15, 2011, 01:26:21 pm
Just a note: if there's a BM that needs to be modded, I'd like to try :)
And please do fill in for others...
I've already started BMXXIII, but I don't have any plans for BMXXIV. So if people are willing, you can run that one.
As a bonus, Vector's claimed an IC spot in BMXXIV. Enjoy!
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 17, 2011, 08:11:17 pm
So how are things going down here in bottommost forum? Have they finally picked up again?
Post by: IronyOwl on May 17, 2011, 09:21:07 pm
Post by: Toaster on May 17, 2011, 09:34:23 pm
Oh man, first time I look in this forum in forever, and the only page I look at, and one of my games is mentioned! I'm so touched. ^_^
So how are things going down here in bottommost forum? Have they finally picked up again?
They're slow. I blame final exams (lol pander lol). You should play.
Post by: Think0028 on May 17, 2011, 09:34:32 pm
Post by: Vector on May 18, 2011, 04:14:04 am
Also an "I'm busy mainlining Metal Gear Solid" thing.
Post by: webadict on May 18, 2011, 12:13:41 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 18, 2011, 08:57:50 pm
Post by: Solifuge on May 19, 2011, 12:28:13 am
They're slow. I blame final exams (lol pander lol).
For me, it's deffo an exam thing.
For me, it's the end of the school year, but I have a nice 40-hour-a-week job that is a nice time sink
Work work herp derp.
Ah the joys of having the summer off from school, and no job. :D
Going to be remedying one of the above soon, and the other come Fall. If an enticing Mafia happens, though, I'm sure I can find some time for it.
Post by: Vector on May 20, 2011, 09:34:40 pm
Post by: JoshuaFH on May 20, 2011, 09:36:06 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on May 20, 2011, 09:51:43 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on May 20, 2011, 10:14:52 pm
Post by: Think0028 on May 20, 2011, 10:31:14 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on May 20, 2011, 11:32:48 pm
Don't worry about it.
Here, I'll make it official.
I, in my official capacity as frequent Inexperienced Challenge of Bay12Games Beginner's Mafia, do declare you a perfectly fine mafia player.
Go get 'em, tiger!
Post by: Think0028 on May 21, 2011, 01:38:58 am
Post by: Heliman on May 21, 2011, 02:00:45 am
Wooo! Do I get a framed certificate?
(http://i.imgur.com/vHKIL.gif)
Just a stamp.
Post by: Jim Groovester on May 21, 2011, 02:18:19 am
I'm saving that. I can think of a few uses for a big golden seal of approval bearing
Post by: webadict on May 21, 2011, 02:14:02 pm
Oh dear lordy-lord this subforum is dead. We have two BMs, KotM, two BYORs (one of which hasn't been posted in for 6 days), and nothing else.We need something cool to play. Something not BYOR, but something... dare I say, themed?
Plus, it hurts that I'm a major source of games, and I'm very busy. I'd usually have more games out, but without that, we're stuck on BYOR repeat, which I suppose I'll hold off for a while when I'm done.
I'll run something fun, but that involves me not being a total slacker.
Post by: Heliman on May 21, 2011, 02:35:39 pm
Quote from: Heliman
I've been thinking about a "4 Rooms with a TV" mafia game, played almost entirely in Quicktopic. The general concept is that all the players are thrown into various rooms every once in awhile and can't talk to players that are not in the room they are in. The entire crux of playing town successfully will be trying to deal with a constant denial of information, and the crux to playing scum is to play upon that advantage like violinists on a violin. Roles are given out by the traditional F11 distributions, with 8 extra town and one goon tacked on to balance the advantage scum has. I also ran into the problem of players being stranded as only one of a few players in a room, so I made the days into multiple segments, gave each room a special ability when there are few players in it, and had the rooms be periodically destroyed to keep things somewhat crowded.
General RulesSpoiler (click to show/hide)
Every room has it's own specialty, with a special power depending on the amount of people in a room.
Room 1, The TV roomSpoiler (click to show/hide)
Room 2, The Record roomSpoiler (click to show/hide)
Room 3, The Echo RoomSpoiler (click to show/hide)
Room 4, The Dark RoomSpoiler (click to show/hide)
EDIT: In retrospect, It's a pretty large game though, Could I even find 18 players before this thing becomes dead?
Post by: lordnincompoop on May 21, 2011, 02:46:23 pm
Post by: Solifuge on May 21, 2011, 03:19:20 pm
I could see it getting either terribly confusing, or the copious methods of getting snippets of past information putting a lot of focus on the very thing the game-style is meant to conceal. Also, as Scum, it'd be really hard to pull much of a gambit relying on denial of past or present information, because you lack the normal upper-hand in information that most Mafias have; there are so many opportunities for Town to spy on other rooms, secretly watching the whole thing (be it in the future or concurrently in another room) that it would be terribly tough to do much with the denial of info yourself.
Post by: Heliman on May 21, 2011, 04:19:47 pm
I COULD I switch echo room's position with the record room. That way the major observation chamber would be only used earlier in the game, when the special has a less a chance of popping and there is less to take from the record's normal power? That could help.
OR
I could add a rule that I took out. in the early version I had the intention of informing the scum of all the town arrangements for the segments of each day, but I removed it because I thought it was OP, maybe it would help if I added it back? It could lead to situations where a scum could fill the record room or echo room to block it from popping special.
Post by: Tyberix on May 21, 2011, 04:32:15 pm
Unless the votes carry over segments but that would be confusing as hell if you wouldn't know how many there already are.
Post by: Heliman on May 21, 2011, 04:37:14 pm
"How in the hell is it possible for the same guy to be in the same room five times in a row? Vote:Tiberix"
EDIT: analyzing where the scum sends themselves could be a whole part of the game. Players frequently together could be scummy, players frequently in rooms with a pop+1 players could look scummy, Scum breaking the pop in room 4 could be a gambit to look less scummy, the list goes on.
EDIT^2: Actually, I guess I'll add the second option then. The record room's nature means it was meant to be used late game anyway.
Post by: Tyberix on May 21, 2011, 04:45:43 pm
Quote
There are 3 segments every day, at the end of which the player with the most votes is lynched.I thought you meant that each segment ends with lynch. It makes more sense this way :P
Post by: Heliman on May 21, 2011, 04:57:24 pm
Ah, nevermind i thought the votes apply only to the current rooms.Oh man if there was a lynch in every room in every segment we would be done in only one day.QuoteThere are 3 segments every day, at the end of which the player with the most votes is lynched.I thought you meant that each segment ends with lynch. It makes more sense this way :P
Post by: Tyberix on May 21, 2011, 05:05:08 pm
Nah, 4-5 people in one room would circle around each other for some time before lynching so it won't be that fast :P On the same topic : would the players be evenly distributed among rooms or completely random ? Because Mafia never choosing the dark room could be legit strategy (that would be very annoying as town) if there would be a big chance of getting free kills like that.Ah, nevermind i thought the votes apply only to the current rooms.Oh man if there was a lynch in every room in every segment we would be done in only one day.QuoteThere are 3 segments every day, at the end of which the player with the most votes is lynched.I thought you meant that each segment ends with lynch. It makes more sense this way :P
Post by: Heliman on May 21, 2011, 05:13:40 pm
Post by: Tyberix on May 21, 2011, 05:19:19 pm
Post by: Heliman on May 21, 2011, 06:14:38 pm
Post by: Toaster on May 21, 2011, 09:06:15 pm
Oh dear lordy-lord this subforum is dead. We have two BMs, KotM, two BYORs (one of which hasn't been posted in for 6 days), and nothing else.We need something cool to play. Something not BYOR, but something... dare I say, themed?
I couldn't fill Bad Dudes, despite it having ninjas. It may have been because it needed 13 people, though.
Post by: JoshuaFH on May 21, 2011, 09:13:31 pm
Post by: Toaster on May 21, 2011, 09:20:28 pm
If you think you can fix it, go ahead.
Post by: JoshuaFH on May 21, 2011, 10:02:53 pm
Just throwing ideas out there.
Variation 1:
- Instead of the King maker being secret, the mod declares who he is at the start of the day as well as whom he selected for kingship the previous night.
- There is only 1 mafia
- The mafia can be the king maker
- the kingmaker can't choose himself to be king or vice king.
- The same people can be chosen twice or more in a row to be king or vice king
Variation 2:
- There is no king maker
- players vote, and whomever obtains hammer is the King for the day, and he may execute a player, which then ends the day..
I've never actually played a King Maker game, so I'm not sure how either of these would effect balance.
EDIT: Oh wow proofreading fail.
Post by: Darvi on May 22, 2011, 01:33:02 am
Var 2:That could work.
Also, they become confirmed townies by admitting they're KM's and nobody counter-claiming.
And I was confirmed by town not insta-losing when I manipulated the RNG into making me king at lylo.
Post by: Heliman on May 22, 2011, 01:39:56 am
Var 1: Scum keeps appointing scumbuddy as king: insta-win.Impossible, only one mafia.
Post by: Darvi on May 22, 2011, 01:40:23 am
<_<
>_>
*goes back to bed*
Post by: Leafsnail on May 22, 2011, 09:03:35 am
Variation 1:That actually sounds pretty interesting, although I don't think the "Kingmaker is made public" is completely necessary (although the KM will probably want to claim at some point anyway even if they're mafia, since otherwise the KM is guaranteed scum and he's making a trail of confirmed townies). The only annoying thing will be if there's one really lurky/ newbie player who the scum KM just keeps kinging - the town has no way to get rid and him and it basically comes down to the whims of that one person.
- Instead of the King maker being secret, the mod declares who he is at the start of the day as well as whom he selected for kingship the previous night.
- There is only 1 mafia
- The mafia can be the king maker
- the kingmaker can't choose himself to be king or vice king.
- The same people can be chosen twice or more in a row to be king or vice king
I think variation 2's been run a few times (President Mafia is one name for it), and I think a variant here has had a sleeping god role that did that, so that should be perfectly balanced.
Post by: JoshuaFH on May 22, 2011, 09:38:17 pm
Though, because I'm currently infatuated with WA's KoM, I want to include like-elements where I can weasel them in.
Variation 3:
- Same as variation 1, except maybe/maybe not revealed KingMaker.
- Town cannot win, whenever the mafia dies, a new round starts with a refilled roster and a new mafioso chosen at random.
- The King Maker transfers from round to round, and continues choosing kings.
Post by: webadict on May 22, 2011, 09:39:08 pm
I can see you're point about the King maker being made public not being necessary.Kingmaker of the Mafia?
Though, because I'm currently infatuated with WA's KoM, I want to include like-elements where I can weasel them in.
Variation 3:
- Same as variation 1, except maybe/maybe not revealed KingMaker.
- Town cannot win, whenever the mafia dies, a new round starts with a refilled roster and a new mafioso chosen at random.
- The King Maker transfers from round to round, and continues choosing kings.
Post by: JoshuaFH on May 22, 2011, 09:42:53 pm
Post by: Heliman on May 22, 2011, 10:05:57 pm
Post by: JoshuaFH on May 22, 2011, 10:40:45 pm
I'll work up a topic under the 3rd variation pretty soon. Should 7p be enough?
Post by: TolyK on May 23, 2011, 10:24:47 pm
It's the end of the year for me (>:D) and in 2 weeks I will be much more active (hopefully...), if anyone is interested I can try making a mafia/RTD 2-thread game (>:D)
Post by: Vector on May 26, 2011, 05:31:48 am
And I shall keep shouting until I get it.
Post by: webadict on May 26, 2011, 07:27:08 pm
What I want to play is KWN:WE.Bah. I haven't quite finished all the mechanics. And I'm really lazy! If I run that, I'd HAVE to not be running any other games. BYOR'll be done soon, and KotM is... meh, I could probably still run that. It just takes like 30 minutes to set up a Round and a few minutes of daily upkeep. KWN:WE is... a little more upkeep.
And I shall keep shouting until I get it.
Post by: Toaster on May 26, 2011, 08:43:18 pm
Post by: Zai on May 26, 2011, 11:23:53 pm
I'll probably join KWN if you hold off until July.What I want to play is KWN:WE.Bah. I haven't quite finished all the mechanics. And I'm really lazy! If I run that, I'd HAVE to not be running any other games. BYOR'll be done soon, and KotM is... meh, I could probably still run that. It just takes like 30 minutes to set up a Round and a few minutes of daily upkeep. KWN:WE is... a little more upkeep.
And I shall keep shouting until I get it.
Post by: TolyK on May 26, 2011, 11:30:54 pm
same here probably.... if I qualify :PI'll probably join KWN if you hold off until July.What I want to play is KWN:WE.Bah. I haven't quite finished all the mechanics. And I'm really lazy! If I run that, I'd HAVE to not be running any other games. BYOR'll be done soon, and KotM is... meh, I could probably still run that. It just takes like 30 minutes to set up a Round and a few minutes of daily upkeep. KWN:WE is... a little more upkeep.
And I shall keep shouting until I get it.
Post by: Jim Groovester on May 27, 2011, 12:52:24 am
Any interest in another stab at Dethy Deluxe? If I ran it, I'd take it down a notch from last time. Standard no-kill N0 start. 11 players, with 2 sets of SPIN cops, 2 scum, and one simple third party (antimiller survivor, SK, lyncher, something like that). Probably no millers or godfathers.
I'll go for it.
As I recall I'm only in Beginner's Mafia right now and that's not too serious a drain on my time.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on May 29, 2011, 09:17:09 am
Any interest in another stab at Dethy Deluxe? If I ran it, I'd take it down a notch from last time. Standard no-kill N0 start. 11 players, with 2 sets of SPIN cops, 2 scum, and one simple third party (antimiller survivor, SK, lyncher, something like that). Probably no millers or godfathers.Yeah, I tried to overdo it.
Post by: Mr.Person on May 29, 2011, 12:38:22 pm
I know I certainly didn't assist with merely doing it. But then again, if it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing.Any interest in another stab at Dethy Deluxe? If I ran it, I'd take it down a notch from last time. Standard no-kill N0 start. 11 players, with 2 sets of SPIN cops, 2 scum, and one simple third party (antimiller survivor, SK, lyncher, something like that). Probably no millers or godfathers.Yeah, I tried to overdo it.
Post by: webadict on June 01, 2011, 07:44:39 am
This time around would be a lot less predictable:
Town
Mafia
Survivor
Serial Killer
Cult
Jester
Martyr
Lyncher
Assassin
Ally
Brother
Watcher
Special Rules:
Day Start.
PMing IS ALLOWED.
Everyone but the Mafia and Serial Killer can be recruited by the Cult.
The Cult leader DOES NOT receive confirmation about a conversion, nor do they receive any special cultchat. Cult members do receive who is the Cult leader, though.
Everyone cult-aligned dies if the Cult dies. They will NOT reveal their previous alignment.
Both the Lyncher (wins if PLAYER1 is lynched and is still alive) and the Assassin (wins if PLAYER1 is killed and is still alive) are targeted to the Town.
Assuming no one wins because of it: If the Town is killed, the Lyncher becomes Town, and if the Town is lynched, the Assassin becomes Town.
The Watcher is set to 5 Days. (As soon as Day 6 is reached, the Watcher wins, as does any other factions that would win.)
The Ally and Brother are each set to one of the Mafia or the Serial Killer. This means that if the Ally is a Mafia-Ally, then the Brother is aligned with the Serial Killer and vice versa.
The Ally, Brother, Lyncher, and Assassin will not show their targets on death. Merely their role name.
Cult Recruiting happens after kills, so that the Cult can have a missed attempt and have it be unknown.
Serial Killer wins if everyone else is dead. There can be no ties. However, even his Ally or Brother must be dead. This should balance out the Watcher vs. the Mafia vs. the SK.
Things that might changed based on the next game:
When recruiting happens.
Watcher time. (2 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 6 is the minimum amount of death you can have after 5 Days, leaving a total of 6 people alive. I guess it means you CAN'T kill the Serial Killer and Mafia off right away, conversely, 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 = 12, so it is possible to have everyone die, even if completely unlikely.)
Brother and Ally's choice of ally.
Having extra abilities.
So... yeah. I'll throw up sign-ups some time later.
Post by: Toaster on June 01, 2011, 08:14:26 am
Martyr wins if he's NKed, right?
Let's say the game is down to Watcher, SK, and Martyr. If the Watcher is lynched and the SK kills the Martyr, do they both win despite your "no ties" rule?
Post by: webadict on June 01, 2011, 11:38:47 am
There can not be a tie in this game, as there will ALWAYS be a winner. You will be allowed to NL this game, as the Watcher makes any perma-NLing win for him, unless he gets Culted. That's about the only way to break that cycle. And since no one really KNOWS if the Watcher is culted, I'll take the chance.
Post by: Toaster on June 01, 2011, 11:57:51 am
Post by: webadict on June 01, 2011, 12:08:24 pm
Who all can be alive for the Town to win?It's better to ask who has to be dead.
Dead:
Mafia
SK
Cult
Lyncher
Remaining:
Martyr (Can no longer be killed or culted)
Ally (Can no longer win with teammate or be culted) [SK can still win]
Brother (Can no longer win with teammate or be culted) [SK can still win]
Assassin (Can no longer kill Town or be culted)
Jester
Survivor
Watcher
Technically, the Town doesn't win unless it's down to 2p and neither Cult, SK, or Mafia are alive. Lyncher can be alive, but loses, as he cannot vote for the Town.
So, Town needs to get to 2p. Somehow. And kill the remaining scum.
Post by: Toaster on June 01, 2011, 01:05:52 pm
Post by: Darvi on June 01, 2011, 01:23:36 pm
Post by: TolyK on June 02, 2011, 12:20:15 am
Well, since people want to wait on the KWN:WE, I could try running something short. I dunno, maybe a... 3rd Party Mafia?Can I reserve a spot in there?
*****
So... yeah. I'll throw up sign-ups some time later.
Darvi: actually, unsuccessful means that it targeted scum or SK, so they would basically help the town a bit by targeting the cult leader, which makes the job a bit easier for town.
Post by: Heliman on June 02, 2011, 12:53:40 am
Post by: webadict on June 02, 2011, 08:04:11 am
Post by: IronyOwl on June 02, 2011, 03:39:28 pm
You know, considering how fast this subforum gets it's greenhorns, I'd wager we'd even be able to fuel a beginner's mafia running parallel to the current one, our one limiting factor may just be because we only have one game going at a time.BMs also tend to have a high replace rate, though. I'm not certain that you're wrong, but there's a pretty big difference between "Hey this game filled up fast" and "Hey we've got enough people for a second one, with enough left over to replace anyone who drops out."
Post by: Think0028 on June 02, 2011, 04:04:57 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on June 02, 2011, 04:12:41 pm
What about a LYLO BM? Like Vengeful but even smaller- one scum, two townies, maybe even a time limit. It'd be nigh-useless as an actual gametype, but it might make for a decent "This is how you play mafia" crash-course for those people who don't really get it, and especially those people who don't get it and are hoping for others to do something for them.
Or it could confuse and frustrate them without teaching anything, I'm not sure.
Post by: Jim Groovester on June 02, 2011, 04:16:03 pm
Post by: Toaster on June 02, 2011, 08:30:52 pm
Post by: Vector on June 04, 2011, 01:31:06 pm
Kill Webadict
Kill him now
Kill kill kill
Post by: TolyK on June 04, 2011, 01:33:36 pm
I am back from Russia....
:o
hi!
Kill Webadictoh, and this too.
Kill him now
Kill kill kill
Post by: Darvi on June 04, 2011, 01:35:32 pm
Post by: TolyK on June 04, 2011, 01:45:38 pm
Can do. Need his address though.Hey wait for me!
I sent you a PM btw.
Post by: Darvi on June 04, 2011, 03:53:27 pm
Post by: webadict on June 05, 2011, 12:59:24 am
I am back from Russia.:P I've got a few people wishing to push it back into July. I'm running a Third Party Mafia before running KWN, if you want to hurry up the process. Basically, I'll start KWN after that. I'm also hoping someone wins KotM by then too. You want a crown, Vector?
Kill Webadict
Kill him now
Kill kill kill
Can do. Need his address though.Good luck trying to-Oh hold on, someone's at the door.
*creak* Um, yes, who ar-GH! OH GOD THE STABBING!
Post by: TolyK on June 05, 2011, 01:03:20 am
Post by: Mr.Person on June 05, 2011, 12:42:23 pm
Post by: Toaster on June 05, 2011, 12:48:17 pm
Post by: lordnincompoop on June 06, 2011, 05:04:16 pm
I've taken some flak for my BM modding actually, so if anyone else wants to take the next one that'd be nice.
Post by: Darvi on June 06, 2011, 05:05:20 pm
Post by: Heliman on June 06, 2011, 05:53:58 pm
Post by: Darvi on June 06, 2011, 05:56:30 pm
He should totally make it a sequel to the vanilla mafia.
Darvi and Tolyk, the last survivors of Vanilla-town, have sworn vengeance on the cruel mint-icecream, and now, disguised with mint sauce, they have infiltrated mint-city to kill every last single one of them.
Post by: lordnincompoop on June 06, 2011, 06:04:51 pm
Darvi and Tolyk, the last survivors of Vanilla-town, have sworn vengeance on the cruel mint-icecream, and now, disguised with mint sauce, they have infiltrated mint-city to kill every last single one of them.
YES.
Post by: Toaster on June 06, 2011, 07:45:10 pm
Post by: TolyK on June 07, 2011, 12:30:51 am
Actually I remember TolyK (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=45016.msg2272532#msg2272532) calling this next BM beforehand.yeah, but I'm kinda busy. I'll still do it, but having a co-mod would help ;)
Aight.o.0
He should totally make it a sequel to the vanilla mafia.
Darvi and Tolyk, the last survivors of Vanilla-town, have sworn vengeance on the cruel mint-icecream, and now, disguised with mint sauce, they have infiltrated mint-city to kill every last single one of them.
would this really work?
hm....... >:D
Post by: Darvi on June 07, 2011, 12:31:44 am
yeah, but I'm kinda busy. I'll still do it, but having a co-mod would help ;)Yeah that could work.
Post by: TolyK on June 07, 2011, 12:34:08 am
Post by: Darvi on June 07, 2011, 12:37:39 am
Post by: Toaster on June 08, 2011, 08:19:02 pm
Post by: Heliman on June 09, 2011, 02:56:05 am
Post by: lordnincompoop on June 09, 2011, 03:33:29 am
Any chance I could mod the next large game? I'm finally getting serious about doing Four rooms with a TV (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=45016.msg2287779#msg2287779) mafia game. As you may remember, it's still quite the Whopper, with 18 players in all and could even need someone to help co-mod as well.
There's no need to ask for permission. Run the game, and people'll sign upp if they think it's worth it.
Post by: Heliman on June 09, 2011, 03:36:08 am
*sighs*
Ok, might as well get this over with, better to have posted it and had it die then to have never posted it at all.
EDIT: yeah I could definitely do with a Co-Mod to help with the Vote tallies.
Post by: Max White on June 09, 2011, 07:55:09 am
Post by: lordnincompoop on June 09, 2011, 09:15:44 am
So, basically, the BM begins whenever TolyK wants it to.
Post by: Mephansteras on June 09, 2011, 11:17:21 am
Post by: Vector on June 12, 2011, 09:38:32 pm
Because I want to scunt hum.
Post by: Max White on June 12, 2011, 09:39:51 pm
Because I want to scunt hum.
Anybody else feel that this phrase should have innuendo attached?
Post by: Vector on June 12, 2011, 09:42:21 pm
Because I want to scunt hum.
Anybody else feel that this phrase should have innuendo attached?
And I'm all out of men in spandex.
Post by: webadict on June 12, 2011, 10:13:50 pm
You crazy, girl.Because I want to scunt hum.
Anybody else feel that this phrase should have innuendo attached?
And I'm all out of men in spandex.
Also, as soon as Third Party's over, KWN starts :D
Post by: Vector on June 12, 2011, 10:14:40 pm
Ahhhh, well. So it goes.
Post by: Max White on June 12, 2011, 10:18:59 pm
Post by: Ottofar on June 13, 2011, 03:16:58 am
Post by: Max White on June 13, 2011, 03:19:23 am
Post by: TolyK on June 13, 2011, 09:33:14 am
Also, as soon as Third Party's over, KWN starts :DI might join, seeing how i do in TP.
Oh, and before I forgot: Darvi is finishing flavor for BM XXIV, I got frontpage done. Plus I'll test the online LurkerTracker ^^
Post by: lordnincompoop on June 15, 2011, 04:44:57 pm
Apparently it's the oldest online mafia board in existence, and though I'm not sure about that claim, their skills must be rather sharp.
Post by: Heliman on June 16, 2011, 02:20:55 am
Post by: Max White on June 16, 2011, 04:06:57 am
Post by: Vector on June 16, 2011, 09:17:43 am
Well, that, and I kind of prefer our playstyle over here still.
Post by: webadict on June 16, 2011, 09:36:57 am
Regular hammers are tougher.
Post by: Toaster on June 16, 2011, 09:39:26 am
I'll probably put something else up after Dethy Deluxe is done. Any requests?
I was tossing around the idea of an RTD Mafia, where I'd roll a d6 on everyone's action to see just how successful it was, following standard RTD rules. Interest check?
Post by: Dariush on June 16, 2011, 10:24:05 am
Post by: Toaster on June 16, 2011, 10:29:16 am
(I'm also down for Roguelike 2)
Post by: Leafsnail on June 16, 2011, 11:33:42 am
I hate hammers >______>The advantage is that you actually have to form a consensus in order to lynch someone when you're playing with hammers. In a hammer game, the town agrees to lynch someone, some people compromise and change, and then the person who the town regards as most scummy is lynched. In a nonhammer game, all too often a bunch of votes are thrown around, no consensus at all is reached and a semi-random person is lynched at the end of the day (after the mafia decides to lurk it out since none of them have the 3 votes out of 15 that the person about to be lynched has).
Post by: webadict on June 16, 2011, 12:06:57 pm
Post by: Darvi on June 16, 2011, 02:12:54 pm
Nononono, randomness + mafia = fun/fixed
I could see that work.
[1] You get a false inspect or the kill gets redirected to your prot target.
[2] Nothing happens.
[3] "Your target is no serial killer". Or you die if you protect and your target gets attacked.
[4] Success.
[5] Success, plus you find out who attempted to kill or what powerrole your inspect target has.
[6] Success, but everybody knows you targeted somebody.
Post by: webadict on June 16, 2011, 02:23:39 pm
Post by: Darvi on June 16, 2011, 02:24:51 pm
Post by: Toaster on June 16, 2011, 03:03:09 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on June 16, 2011, 05:54:57 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on June 16, 2011, 05:59:35 pm
[6] Success, but everybody knows you targeted somebody.This would actually probably be better than 5, in a way. Gives you an alibi, so to speak ("I didn't kill Mr Body because I was busy targetting someone else last night").
...Speaking of which, I need to finalize the Evidence Mafia ruleset. Hmm.
Post by: webadict on June 16, 2011, 06:08:08 pm
Be very careful. Balance should be maintained even if everybody rolls a 6, so assume as such every time. Also, the town is going to be getting more 6's than the mafia, so the mafia dice should probably be a little loaded compared to the town.That fails basic logic: The Town is also going to get more 1s. Should the Mafia's dice be loaded so they get more 1s, too? So, by all of this combined logic, there should be an equal chance to get any number. Which is what is already supposed to happen.
However, if you were going to do an RTD Mafia to begin with, the Mafia would probably have no rolling to begin with. That would be a reason for them to be wanted dead to begin with. But, if that were to be, there shouldn't be things like "1: You straight up die." It'd be like, "1: Your ability fails and you cannot use your ability the following Night." there shouldn't be things like "5: You find out all of the Mafia." It'd be something like, "5: Your inspection is in the form of 'Inspect Successful. Webadict is Mafioso (Mafia).'" This doesn't follow normal RTD procedure, but if it did, the game would be over really fast with several deaths right away.
Your normal expectations for RTD protocol will likely make the game not quite up to your standards. Luck, itself, is a bit of a hassle to balance. It's doable, definitely, but you have to be skilled to do it.
Post by: Mr.Person on June 16, 2011, 07:27:30 pm
Be very careful. Balance should be maintained even if everybody rolls a 6, so assume as such every time. Also, the town is going to be getting more 6's than the mafia, so the mafia dice should probably be a little loaded compared to the town.That fails basic logic: The Town is also going to get more 1s. Should the Mafia's dice be loaded so they get more 1s, too? So, by all of this combined logic, there should be an equal chance to get any number. Which is what is already supposed to happen.
What I mean is that since the town has more players and thus more rolls than the mafia, they're going to have more power if all their actions are equal. Now, this can be solved in a myriad of ways. The most direct would be to simply make the mafia have better effects on good rolls and not as bad effects on low rolls, but then you're running into power creep. You could ignore the problem and just accept that the mafia will be weaker. A varient would be to balance things out so that the mafia being a bit weaker is fine by, for instance, having a smaller than normal town or with cetain 3rd parties. The manner I would balance things out is to simply make it so that the mafia either aren't random or by being always good on any roll. It wouldn't be power creep persay because the high rolls would be the same either way; the only change is on what the low rolls do. My original idea was that last one, but now I actually like the mafia not being random at all more.
Post by: Darvi on June 16, 2011, 07:36:35 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on June 16, 2011, 10:47:27 pm
Or, ya know, not every townie has a power role.
Well obviously, I'm just saying that for the town to have any shot, it has to have more power than the mafia has. I'm ALSO saying that if all of the mafia's power is in a die roll, that can lead to "2, nothing happens for the mafia" while the rest of the town runs around gathering information and whatever it is they're doing.
Addendum: The game should also be balanced if everybody rolls a 1. It should be balanced no matter what combination of rolls comes up.
Post by: Heliman on June 17, 2011, 03:22:44 am
Post by: Max White on June 17, 2011, 03:24:27 am
Post by: TolyK on June 17, 2011, 05:15:15 am
Who wants to IC/join before it's posted?
(It's flavorful :P)
Post by: Jim Groovester on June 17, 2011, 05:16:03 am
Post by: Max White on June 17, 2011, 05:17:06 am
in other news, BMXXIV is about to be posted, and it will have playing IC's.
Who wants to IC/join before it's posted?
(It's flavorful :P)
I would like a join spot, very much so.
You know I suck, let me in.
Post by: Darvi on June 17, 2011, 05:25:49 am
Post by: Jim Groovester on June 17, 2011, 05:33:41 am
Post by: Darvi on June 17, 2011, 05:34:40 am
Post by: Max White on June 17, 2011, 05:36:07 am
Not a playing scum IC, I hope.Well if he was the only playing IC, and we all knew there was a scum IC, I know who would be lynched first day.
Post by: lordnincompoop on June 17, 2011, 06:48:23 am
in other news, BMXXIV is about to be posted, and it will have playing IC's.
Who wants to IC/join before it's posted?
(It's flavorful :P)
You've been saying it's "about to be posted" for over a week now.
I hope you'll make good on that promise this time around.
Post by: Max White on June 17, 2011, 06:53:34 am
You've been saying it's "about to be posted" for over a week now.
He makes a strong argument.
Vote TolyK
EDIT: Wait, why is it only now night in the third party mafia? I thought we went over night yesterday... I want to get back to the game!
Post by: TolyK on June 17, 2011, 09:04:28 am
Daykill Max WhiteYou've been saying it's "about to be posted" for over a week now.
He makes a strong argument.
Vote TolyK
and I've sent teh OP for darvi to review ;)
Post by: webadict on June 17, 2011, 09:17:35 am
Post by: Darvi on June 17, 2011, 09:18:25 am
Just post the fucking thing already.
Post by: Max White on June 19, 2011, 01:24:43 am
Post by: webadict on June 19, 2011, 08:38:00 am
Post by: lordnincompoop on June 19, 2011, 03:24:12 pm
God damn you TolyK where is that BM game
Post by: TolyK on June 20, 2011, 06:20:28 am
anyways, it's up!
Two playing IC's and a neutral one as well.
If there's a problem/mistake/whatever please tell me :P
Darvi thought of the flavor, I like it but am concerned that it will be a bit confusing for first-timers.
Waddaya guys think?
Post by: Max White on June 20, 2011, 06:25:11 am
Unvote!
Post by: TolyK on June 20, 2011, 06:27:56 am
With all my strawberry shortcake-ness, I Triplekill Max White![/jk]
Post by: Max White on June 20, 2011, 06:30:44 am
Post by: TolyK on June 20, 2011, 06:33:06 am
Darvi put a reflection on you and it killed all the townies! THE MAFIA WINS! MWAHAHA!
[/jk]
Soo, about the flavor...
Post by: webadict on June 20, 2011, 08:34:42 am
Post by: TolyK on June 20, 2011, 10:23:55 am
Darvi!
*listens*
oh, he meant redirection on Webadict :P
Post by: Max White on June 20, 2011, 07:40:35 pm
Things worked out well then.
Post by: webadict on June 20, 2011, 09:28:13 pm
Wait, webadict was on your side? So because I was triple killed, while I had reflection up, that is one kill for Darvi, one for webadict, and one just for you TolyK.You have no idea how things work! It only reflects back to the user, so TolyK was triplekilled instead.
Things worked out well then.
Post by: Max White on June 20, 2011, 09:29:54 pm
Post by: webadict on June 20, 2011, 09:35:12 pm
Damn it! I almost killed the entireLuckily, I'm a Copycat, and I just copied it straight to you!townmafia!
Post by: Darvi on June 21, 2011, 06:55:21 am
Post by: Max White on June 21, 2011, 06:58:02 am
NOW NOBODY CAN STOP MY REIN OF STUPIDITY!
Post by: TolyK on June 21, 2011, 09:15:40 am
Daykill TolyK
8)
Post by: Mr.Person on June 21, 2011, 04:40:48 pm
Post by: TolyK on June 22, 2011, 12:02:08 am
:P
Post by: webadict on June 22, 2011, 07:28:46 am
Post by: TolyK on June 22, 2011, 08:35:05 am
:D
(because I'm never on when games start, and when major games start I never get to enter due to the flood :()
Post by: Vector on June 24, 2011, 08:54:45 pm
Thanks for being so cool.
Post by: webadict on June 25, 2011, 04:59:01 am
*hugs everyone*What did we do?
Thanks for being so cool.
Post by: Max White on June 25, 2011, 05:04:07 am
...
Vote Vector.
Post by: webadict on June 25, 2011, 05:08:38 am
Maybe it is what we didn't do.You fool! She's clearly a Jester!
...
Vote Vector.
Post by: Max White on June 25, 2011, 05:11:27 am
Post by: webadict on June 25, 2011, 06:55:58 am
HA! Such a blatant display of buddying, you must be the brother!Only a Mafia member would be so concerned about third parties.
Post by: Max White on June 25, 2011, 07:05:41 am
Post by: Darvi on June 25, 2011, 08:14:36 am
Post by: webadict on June 25, 2011, 09:20:12 am
Only scum would make such broad generalisations!Actually, focusing on a specific third party or third parties is more of a sign of being Mafia, since the Mafia subconsciously want to avoid accusing themselves but also want to look like they're helping, and what better way to satisfy both than going after another dude. As an added bonus, you can see yourself doing it in 3rd Party Mafia (In the thread, not just in your mafiachat.)
I take notes.
Post by: Mr.Person on June 25, 2011, 11:47:56 am
Post by: webadict on June 25, 2011, 12:00:41 pm
Webadict isn't asking questions, he must be scum. Or something.I don't ask questions. I answer them. And then lynch them.
Post by: Mr.Person on June 25, 2011, 06:48:41 pm
Vote questionsWebadict isn't asking questions, he must be scum. Or something.I don't ask questions. I answer them. And then lynch them.
Post by: Darvi on June 25, 2011, 07:02:31 pm
They were MrPerson(Jester)
Post by: Toaster on June 25, 2011, 07:08:22 pm
Suckers.
Post by: webadict on June 25, 2011, 09:58:03 pm
Post by: Max White on June 25, 2011, 10:51:35 pm
OH NOES, but in all seriuosness we should take this somewhere else I'm sure the others won't apreciate coming back to further grill my incompetent and aparently scummy ass and find this bastard of a converstion.You make a persuading argument. Why if we were back in the other thread, I would unvote you. Shame about that. Oh well...
Post by: Darvi on June 26, 2011, 09:13:26 am
Post by: TolyK on June 26, 2011, 11:20:24 am
I'm BAAAAACK!
*dodges several RPG's, a flight of bullets, and a few insane orcs)
Post by: Max White on June 26, 2011, 06:29:41 pm
Post by: Vector on June 26, 2011, 06:35:41 pm
I wonder if anybody else has ever noticed this, but in Dakarian's Scumhunting Bible, vector is refered to as 'he'.
That was because I pretended to be a guy for about a year.
Post by: Mr.Person on June 26, 2011, 07:00:40 pm
Questions got lynched.
They were MrPerson(Jester)
wat is this i dont even
Post by: webadict on June 26, 2011, 10:23:27 pm
Vector's not a guy?!?!?I wonder if anybody else has ever noticed this, but in Dakarian's Scumhunting Bible, vector is refered to as 'he'.
That was because I pretended to be a guy for about a year.
Post by: TolyK on June 27, 2011, 12:09:31 am
Post by: Vector on June 27, 2011, 12:09:54 am
Post by: Max White on June 27, 2011, 04:03:53 am
Vector's not a guy?!?!?It made the dick measuring contest very awkward indeed.
Post by: Pandarsenic on June 27, 2011, 05:53:09 am
Post by: webadict on June 27, 2011, 07:39:41 am
How does that make stealing from young children, tripping the elderly, and kicking puppies awkward?Vector's not a guy?!?!?It made the dick measuring contest very awkward indeed.
Post by: Mr.Person on June 27, 2011, 01:56:25 pm
Post by: Ottofar on July 03, 2011, 08:32:14 am
Post by: lordnincompoop on July 03, 2011, 09:45:51 am
I'm looking for players in a new gametype (I hope) called Witches' Coven. It's be as flavour-heavy as I can muster - and I can muster quite a bit, mind you.
It'll also be role-light, mechanics-light, ever so slightly bastard and hopefully will encourage the players toward a more cerebral, discussion-oriented style of play.
I've got it all roughly down (will discuss the finer points with RedWarrior0), and should there be enough interest in such a game I'll put it up in a day or two.
Post by: Think0028 on July 03, 2011, 11:50:25 am
Post by: Toaster on July 03, 2011, 11:56:24 am
Post by: Max White on July 03, 2011, 08:30:31 pm
Post by: lordnincompoop on July 04, 2011, 07:51:08 am
I do love innovation. How many player slots are we talking?
Nine to eleven.
Post by: Toaster on July 06, 2011, 08:50:53 pm
I still have Bad Dudes Mafia to run, but I'm going to save it until I think it can get the required thirteen people. So... options!
Roguelike 2
Deep South
A themed game
A (near) mountainous game
Something else?
What do the people want?
Post by: Think0028 on July 06, 2011, 08:53:55 pm
Post by: Darvi on July 06, 2011, 08:58:57 pm
Although I wouldn't mind a themed game, but I guess somebody else could make one of those too.
Post by: Max White on July 06, 2011, 08:59:48 pm
Post by: Darvi on July 06, 2011, 09:10:11 pm
Read this. (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=78265.0)
Post by: Max White on July 06, 2011, 09:12:59 pm
Then I kill you >:3
Toaster, your making a roguelike mafia game. I'm in, so is Darvi. And for when this starts, vote Darvi.
Post by: Jim Groovester on July 06, 2011, 11:29:01 pm
Deep South
I remember the name but nothing else about what this game is supposed to be.
Post by: Darvi on July 06, 2011, 11:29:27 pm
Post by: webadict on July 06, 2011, 11:30:02 pm
I think it's that all actions are day actionsAll Night actions are sent during the Day. There are no Nights.
Post by: Jim Groovester on July 06, 2011, 11:48:15 pm
Eh, I guess run RL2.
Post by: Mr.Person on July 07, 2011, 12:14:29 am
Post by: Toaster on July 07, 2011, 10:24:20 am
Any objections to me going ahead with signups? We have three running games and two in signups. Both games in signups are a bit old, but I can start with any number, unlike those two.
Post by: webadict on July 07, 2011, 11:29:49 am
The basic concept is that everyone would make an entire role (Actions, Auto-abilities, Anything). I would make slight revisions or ask for a whole new role if I deem it unfair.
After that, all roles are displayed. You may either pick one of the roles or choose the standard vanilla version of your alignment.
Thoughts?
Post by: TolyK on July 07, 2011, 11:39:12 am
I would prefer you make a role and they are randomly tossed about with each person only knowing the role they made AND their own role.
Post by: Toaster on July 07, 2011, 11:44:47 am
Could multiple people pick the same role? Would people know what others picked? Would you know your alignment and/or teammates before you could pick? If so, could scum teams discuss selection?
Post by: webadict on July 07, 2011, 12:41:17 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on July 07, 2011, 03:37:47 pm
Multiple people could pick the same role and you'd know your alignment before you picked. The scum could coordinate role choices too, but your role that you'd make would be made BEFORE you got your alignment. You wouldn't know who had what, as there is no restriction on how many players could have a role. Plus, if you decide that the roles are all terribad, you can choose Vanilla, though this is just a cover for possible third parties.It's a fake. He's actually going to just run a Third Party game, plain and simple.
Post by: Max White on July 08, 2011, 07:01:08 am
Suddenly very grateful for these forums.
Post by: webadict on July 08, 2011, 07:06:02 am
Tried playing mafia on a site called 'epicmafia', and they managed to boil it down to a guessing game. There is no scum hunting, just depending on the doctor protecting the cop, and the cop pointing out scum, and if a scum player claims cop then the town has a 50% chance to guess right. Sad, sad games. Also, when you win the other side all report you.Reported.
Suddenly very grateful for these forums.
Post by: Max White on July 08, 2011, 07:08:27 am
Post by: Darvi on July 08, 2011, 07:09:19 am
Post by: Max White on July 08, 2011, 07:12:55 am
Post by: Darvi on July 08, 2011, 07:21:43 am
*stab*
Post by: Max White on July 08, 2011, 07:25:53 am
Post by: Darvi on July 08, 2011, 07:30:19 am
With wuba being the only other guy around (and me also being a Super Saint) I win the game!
Post by: Max White on July 08, 2011, 07:37:43 am
HUGS ALL AROUND!!
Post by: webadict on July 08, 2011, 07:46:43 am
*so what*Redirected back to yourself, noob. You act like I didn't know you were the SK.
With wuba being the only other guy around (and me also being a Super Saint) I win the game!
Post by: TolyK on July 08, 2011, 08:29:27 am
Post by: webadict on July 08, 2011, 10:31:37 am
Post by: Mephansteras on July 08, 2011, 11:28:13 am
And, can people please stop cluttering up this thread with fake mafia games? It makes it harder for people to notice actual questions about games.
Go make a Silly Mafia thread or something if you want to do that.
Post by: Vector on July 08, 2011, 02:42:48 pm
So, anyone care if I run MSER? I doubt there will be enough people to run KWN, so I'll just run something else. This seems like it could be fun, especially if I test the idea.
Wait, you're CANCELLING IT?
Ffffff.
Well, maybe you can run it a bit later, hey?
Post by: Darvi on July 08, 2011, 02:44:18 pm
Go make a Silly Mafia thread or something if you want to do that.That sounds like an awesome idea. Lessee how that'd work.
Post by: webadict on July 08, 2011, 03:18:23 pm
So, delaying it is for the best.
Post by: Vector on July 11, 2011, 06:03:58 pm
Hurf, I wanna play a BYOR. Not like one of the recent ones, but with roles like the ones found in BYORP or the MSPA game. Those were so well-done! I think the super-complex roles aren't so good... they make everything too complicated and confound the day-game by all this loads of night game stuff. Confusing. Zombies. That sort of thing.
Let's do a Classical BYOR.
Or maybe a good old Vote Mafia.
Post by: Darvi on July 11, 2011, 06:05:54 pm
However we seem to have a distinct lack of players at the moment...
Post by: Vector on July 11, 2011, 06:08:40 pm
(I fucking loved that game, though, for reasons that should be obvious)
We need to put the next BM into signups ASAP. I have some folks lined up who wanted to play, and I'll advertise to them as soon as the thread is made.
Post by: Jack A T on July 11, 2011, 06:08:57 pm
Post by: Darvi on July 11, 2011, 06:10:11 pm
Unless somebody else wants to...?
@ninjack: vengeful again? Or some sort of no-extend vanilla mafia?
Post by: Think0028 on July 11, 2011, 06:13:58 pm
Post by: Jack A T on July 11, 2011, 06:17:13 pm
Post by: Vector on July 11, 2011, 06:20:13 pm
The more complex games may have to wait a bit, but damn it, I wanna play Mafia and get this Subforum back to life and on fire. Let's run lots of amazing games, guys!
Post by: Jim Groovester on July 11, 2011, 07:19:19 pm
I've been thinking this for a while. If it's fine with everybody else I'll probably make the topic soon.
Post by: Darvi on July 11, 2011, 07:20:47 pm
In the meanwhile, I thought of some nice flavor for vengeful, so if nobody else does it when I get up tomorrow, I'll start the thread once I finished updating my RTD.
Post by: Jack A T on July 11, 2011, 07:22:38 pm
I think we should set up a Beginner's Game Interest Thread, so that new players can swing by, see how best to get involved in the mafia subforum, and then post to say that they're interested. That way we have a way to announce when the next Beginner's Game goes up easily and to easily track down and direct new players towards it.
I've been thinking this for a while. If it's fine with everybody else I'll probably make the topic soon.
That sounds like a good idea to me.
Post by: Vector on July 11, 2011, 07:23:43 pm
Post by: Think0028 on July 11, 2011, 07:24:09 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on July 11, 2011, 08:54:51 pm
I'll get it up sometime.
Post by: Pandarsenic on July 11, 2011, 10:15:49 pm
The community has spoken.
I'll get it up sometime.
OH BABY
Post by: webadict on July 11, 2011, 10:26:15 pm
I can run a simple BYOR, no problem. It's far easier than the stuff I usually do. Well, if people want a "simple" BYOR (0-3 actions, with 1 being the average number of abilities), then send a role name to me. If I get... I dunno, at least 5?... Roles sent to my inbox, I'll start this "simple" BYOR. I just want to run another game. I have no idea if KotM will ever end!
Post by: Toaster on July 11, 2011, 10:28:17 pm
Roguelike and Marfia look like they're not getting enough interest to start, so I could postpone it in favor of a mountainous game.
Post by: IronyOwl on July 11, 2011, 10:33:14 pm
Well, that's no fun... No one wants to join my super complex games... :(I want to, I just think I'm too preoccupied elsewhere. :(
Post by: Think0028 on July 11, 2011, 10:34:17 pm
Post by: Toaster on July 11, 2011, 10:36:38 pm
Post by: Vector on July 11, 2011, 10:38:51 pm
I know a lot of our folks left for there, and a bunch of people also hit the one-year mark and never came back. Oh, and there's Dakarian... and a whole ton of other regulars. Forsaken1111, Cheeetar, JanusTwoFace, Zai, JoshuaFH, Rysith. None of them play anymore.
Post by: Think0028 on July 11, 2011, 10:41:19 pm
Post by: Max White on July 11, 2011, 10:51:45 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on July 12, 2011, 12:11:32 am
Post by: IronyOwl on July 12, 2011, 12:13:36 am
Mafiascum, presumably.What! Why?
I know a lot of our folks left for there, and a bunch of people also hit the one-year mark and never came back. Oh, and there's Dakarian... and a whole ton of other regulars. Forsaken1111, Cheeetar, JanusTwoFace, Zai, JoshuaFH, Rysith. None of them play anymore.
Post by: Max White on July 12, 2011, 12:18:10 am
Protip: Smug grins while answering questions more often means they are telling the truth... Sooo many games go to the scum because somebody calls 'Hey look, your smiling, you're mafia!' and everybody jumps on the bangwagon.
Post by: Think0028 on July 12, 2011, 12:26:24 am
Damnit now it's bugging me.
Post by: Pandarsenic on July 12, 2011, 02:19:29 am
Post by: Max White on July 12, 2011, 02:26:17 am
Post by: Jim Groovester on July 12, 2011, 02:41:15 am
Take a look. Let me know if there's any information I'm missing or other resources I should include, or other suggestions about what I should say. I'd like to leave the giant glut of information that's in a usual BM opening post out of it, since that's a lot to look over and I don't want to immediately scare away new players with giant walls of helpful information that they have to trudge through.
I'm thinking I might rework that usual opening BM post anyway, since there's a lot I don't like about it, but maybe some other time.
Post by: IronyOwl on July 12, 2011, 03:03:18 am
Post by: TolyK on July 12, 2011, 06:37:05 am
I think we should set up a Beginner's Game Interest Thread, so that new players can swing by, see how best to get involved in the mafia subforum, and then post to say that they're interested. That way we have a way to announce when the next Beginner's Game goes up easily and to easily track down and direct new players towards it.hmm... I got this PM btw:
I've been thinking this for a while. If it's fine with everybody else I'll probably make the topic soon.
Is it still time to sign up?... Yup. need to refer that guy there.
I knew what Mafia was and all, although I never really played it, I have a sudden urge to replay it. So after looking at the rules and reading all the classes, I decide to play it. I saw the Words Beginner's Mafia so I figured this was the place for n00bs to go and gain some skill and learn the ropes (Pun intended.)
If not, I'll just start my own thread. Not going to be much of a change from the original. But I do have some rules in place I had in mind.
But if it is, I'm going to read all that information you posted, and hope I become an arsonist (Because that sounds dandy.)
It looks like we need more penguin avatars :P
Post by: Max White on July 12, 2011, 06:59:51 am
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Mr.Person on July 12, 2011, 10:25:00 am
Post by: webadict on July 12, 2011, 10:27:31 am
Post by: Darvi on July 12, 2011, 10:28:22 am
Post by: webadict on July 12, 2011, 11:26:47 am
I see what you did there.Except we are absolutely, positively a legitimate group, and not a front for any sort of criminal activities.
(http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Penguin_Mafia)
Post by: Darvi on July 12, 2011, 12:50:28 pm
Ya know, I should write this shit down some time.
Post by: TolyK on July 12, 2011, 01:07:31 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on July 12, 2011, 02:09:58 pm
We all have to do our part to increase the number of penguin avatars.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
No scowl = Completely unusable.
Looks pretty good. You might want to include a basic description of what the game actually is for those people who wander in and want to get the gist of it without reading a tutorial.
Alright, will do. Thanks.
Post by: webadict on July 12, 2011, 02:45:19 pm
That is the most scowlingest penguin that ever did scowl. I was literally hiding underneath my desk for several minutes, waiting for it to chuckle before I inevitably pulled out the power cord. Unfortunately, I had forgotten my computer was a laptop, and spent the next 3 hours waiting for that evil image to die outside my apartment until some cops told me to stop loitering.We all have to do our part to increase the number of penguin avatars.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
No scowl = Completely unusable.
Unless you meant cowl, in which case it is an easy addition. Or possibly bowl. They are spelled very similarly.
Post by: Toaster on July 12, 2011, 03:38:14 pm
Post by: Darvi on July 12, 2011, 03:42:06 pm
Post by: Think0028 on July 12, 2011, 05:54:17 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on July 12, 2011, 06:05:38 pm
Hourglass Mafia - Townies are slipping to the other side with each passing day
Something about conversions or sudden changes, or something relating to the flavor (mind control, mirror twins, etc).
Post by: Vector on July 12, 2011, 06:07:30 pm
Post by: webadict on July 12, 2011, 06:08:24 pm
Once the next round of games finishes up (Roguelike, BYOR, and Vengeful), could I host the cult idea I was tossing around in the gametype balance thread? And does anyone have suggestions for a name for it? Cult Mafia seems kind of presumptuous (like it's the OFFICIAL GAMETYPE WITH A CULT), but I'm not having a good time coming up with better ideas.I see no problem with Cult Mafia, but you could always play around with that. Like... I dunno, Induction Mafia. Actually, Induction Mafia works double, since inductive reasoning is used to find scum and inducting someone means to recruit into something. Ba da boom.
Post by: Leafsnail on July 12, 2011, 06:37:13 pm
Post by: webadict on July 12, 2011, 06:52:39 pm
I'd be tempted to avoid the use of the word "mafia" altogether considering that the gametype doesn't have a mafia party in it. Unless you're gonna flavour your cult as mafia (which could be... interesting).Except that the game IS a Mafia game. Mafia the game is different from Mafia the team. The former just got the name from the latter.
Post by: Max White on July 12, 2011, 07:25:06 pm
That is the most scowlingest penguin that ever did scowl. I was literally hiding underneath my desk for several minutes, waiting for it to chuckle before I inevitably pulled out the power cord. Unfortunately, I had forgotten my computer was a laptop, and spent the next 3 hours waiting for that evil image to die outside my apartment until some cops told me to stop loitering.
Unless you meant cowl, in which case it is an easy addition. Or possibly bowl. They are spelled very similarly.
??? You must really like penguins.
Post by: Darvi on July 12, 2011, 07:27:00 pm
Fuckers broke my grue's kneecaps. (http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/And_Your_Family,_Too)
Post by: JoshuaFH on July 12, 2011, 11:11:25 pm
Mafiascum, presumably.
I know a lot of our folks left for there, and a bunch of people also hit the one-year mark and never came back. Oh, and there's Dakarian... and a whole ton of other regulars. Forsaken1111, Cheeetar, JanusTwoFace, Zai, JoshuaFH, Rysith. None of them play anymore.
I do truly want to play mafia, but there's simply too many circumstances that prevent me from being a reliable member at the moment, and so I cannot commit to even very short games.
I love mafia, and so it pains me that I can't play as much as I'd like to.
Post by: Vector on July 12, 2011, 11:13:13 pm
Post by: JoshuaFH on July 12, 2011, 11:15:11 pm
Post by: webadict on July 13, 2011, 12:25:05 am
Thank you very much Vector.Vector gets right to the point.
Post by: TolyK on July 13, 2011, 12:25:30 am
Post by: webadict on July 13, 2011, 12:27:47 am
bye,, I'll be back on the 30th ;)That to'ly k.
Post by: Pandarsenic on July 13, 2011, 01:20:02 am
Post by: lordnincompoop on July 13, 2011, 11:21:23 am
Post by: Think0028 on July 13, 2011, 11:32:53 am
Post by: webadict on July 13, 2011, 11:39:41 am
Post by: Toaster on July 13, 2011, 12:14:11 pm
Post by: webadict on July 13, 2011, 12:42:07 pm
Post by: Max White on July 14, 2011, 12:58:34 am
The basic idea is then when the game is started, instead of players replying to the thread with an in, they pm the mod to be in. The mod will update the front page with a player count, but not player names. When the game has enough people, the mod hands out not only player roles, but user names and passwords to accounts, and then those accounts are used to play instead of their normal accounts. Players then try to conceal their real account user names.
The charm comes into trying to figure out not only who is scum, but who is behind each account.
Post by: Jack A T on July 14, 2011, 01:04:39 am
Hmm, I have been thinking about a new gametype. Masquerade mafia.
The basic idea is then when the game is started, instead of players replying to the thread with an in, they pm the mod to be in. The mod will update the front page with a player count, but not player names. When the game has enough people, the mod hands out not only player roles, but user names and passwords to accounts, and then those accounts are used to play instead of their normal accounts. Players then try to conceal their real account user names.
The charm comes into trying to figure out not only who is scum, but who is behind each account.
Cue a dozen bad Org imitations.
More seriously, it is a cool idea, but it seems to be hard to successfully implement.
Post by: Max White on July 14, 2011, 01:05:07 am
Post by: Mephansteras on July 14, 2011, 01:19:35 am
Sounds like fun to me!
The bigger issue is that secondary accounts like that are against forum rules. And we'd really rather not bug Toady about stuff like this.
Post by: Max White on July 14, 2011, 01:20:04 am
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on July 14, 2011, 01:26:30 am
Sounds like fun to me!
The bigger issue is that secondary accounts like that are against forum rules. And we'd really rather not bug Toady about stuff like this.
Just make a forum elsewhere and use that under different names. They are really easy to set up.
Post by: Vector on July 14, 2011, 01:30:07 am
B12 belongs to us. No leaving. It's home <3
But you should play mafia here, if you're bored. It's an excellent use of time.
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on July 14, 2011, 01:31:08 am
No D:
B12 belongs to us. No leaving. It's home <3
But you should play mafia here, if you're bored. It's an excellent use of time.
I tried mafia before once, I didn't get it. I'll try again if I see a new game starting :D
Post by: Max White on July 14, 2011, 01:32:12 am
Also, Vector, your avatar seems a lot less tasty...
Post by: Vector on July 14, 2011, 01:50:56 am
I'll get over the broken egg phase pretty soon, but today it was the best I could think of.
Might go with bacon.
Post by: Max White on July 14, 2011, 01:52:54 am
Post by: Heliman on July 14, 2011, 02:10:45 am
Hmm, I have been thinking about a new gametype. Masquerade mafia.You and me think way too much alike. I had that idea last month! It would be soo cool!
The basic idea is then when the game is started, instead of players replying to the thread with an in, they pm the mod to be in. The mod will update the front page with a player count, but not player names. When the game has enough people, the mod hands out not only player roles, but user names and passwords to accounts, and then those accounts are used to play instead of their normal accounts. Players then try to conceal their real account user names.
Post by: Max White on July 14, 2011, 02:13:52 am
But as others have pointed out, the limitation of it being against the rules to use a separate account is rather pressing.
Post by: Heliman on July 14, 2011, 02:16:22 am
Post by: Max White on July 14, 2011, 02:18:38 am
Although it is some what perfect.
Post by: Heliman on July 14, 2011, 02:35:00 am
Post by: Max White on July 14, 2011, 02:40:57 am
I'll put it together if a few people PM me with interest. Be sure to pm, just to make it harder for people to know who you are. E-mail accounts won't be an issue.
Post by: webadict on July 14, 2011, 06:22:14 am
Post by: Max White on July 14, 2011, 06:26:10 am
Post by: webadict on July 14, 2011, 06:30:01 am
Post by: Max White on July 14, 2011, 06:32:11 am
Hell, sounds like the most entertaining thing in a while.
Post by: Vector on July 14, 2011, 07:26:59 am
*sigh*
If Org isn't playing here anymore, then we probably don't have to worry about people impersonating him.
Post by: webadict on July 14, 2011, 07:34:31 am
What, you think anyone could impersonate you Web, or would want to?... And yet...
*sigh*
If Org isn't playing here anymore, then we probably don't have to worry about people impersonating him.
Post by: Mr.Person on July 14, 2011, 11:52:00 am
What, you think anyone could impersonate you Web, or would want to?
*sigh*
If Org isn't playing here anymore, then we probably don't have to worry about people impersonating him.
The perfect oppurtunity for Org to return!
Post by: webadict on July 14, 2011, 07:33:30 pm
But... WHY WOULD YOU WANT THAT?!?!?What, you think anyone could impersonate you Web, or would want to?
*sigh*
If Org isn't playing here anymore, then we probably don't have to worry about people impersonating him.
The perfect oppurtunity for Org to return!
Post by: Darvi on July 14, 2011, 07:38:10 pm
Post by: webadict on July 14, 2011, 07:43:14 pm
For BYOHF to finally finish? I still haven't gotten my inspect result yet D:Umm... target is neutral?
Post by: Darvi on July 14, 2011, 07:45:24 pm
Also, skills. I used my oneshot to get both, so that's missing.
Post by: webadict on July 14, 2011, 07:50:22 pm
Aha. Is that true breadbocks?Umm... your power has a mystery effect. You die?
Also, skills. I used my oneshot to get both, so that's missing.
Post by: Darvi on July 14, 2011, 07:58:24 pm
Post by: webadict on July 14, 2011, 09:03:01 pm
Unfortunately "neutral" is not a possible inspect result since I got "Survivor" on Pandar :V... You die. It's a new alignment.
Post by: Vector on July 16, 2011, 12:53:40 pm
I think that more people should join Web's BYOR
Yeah :D
Post by: Darvi on July 16, 2011, 12:54:19 pm
Post by: Jack A T on July 17, 2011, 01:33:50 am
Post by: Vector on July 20, 2011, 07:12:31 pm
Basically nothing.
Anyone have any Big Fat Ideas?
Post by: Think0028 on July 20, 2011, 07:14:41 pm
Post by: Max White on July 20, 2011, 07:17:55 pm
Post by: webadict on July 20, 2011, 07:20:59 pm
Open for signups right now:*cough* King of the Mafia *cough*
Basically nothing.
Anyone have any Big Fat Ideas?
Post by: Bdthemag on July 20, 2011, 07:22:50 pm
Post by: Darvi on July 20, 2011, 07:23:11 pm
I think a normal non-specialized game would be nice. Non-vanilla, non-BYOR and not Paranormal or Supernatural either (although another RP mafia would be cool too). Everybody just gets a random role (with mafia and town being the most common, obviously), and then voila, we have a game.
Alright, I'm game.Open for signups right now:*cough* King of the Mafia *cough*
Basically nothing.
Anyone have any Big Fat Ideas?
OUCH FUCK YOU AND YOUR FUCKING KNEECLOBBERING.
Post by: Max White on July 20, 2011, 07:24:49 pm
Post by: lordnincompoop on July 20, 2011, 07:26:14 pm
Open for signups right now:
Basically nothing.
Anyone have any Big Fat Ideas?
That one succession-type game I talked about (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=45016.msg2186296#msg2186296), and the Witches' Coven idea that I'll post tomorrow, I swear.
Fuck you too Max.
I think a normal non-specialized game would be nice. Non-vanilla, non-BYOR and not Paranormal or Supernatural either (although another RP mafia would be cool too). Everybody just gets a random role (with mafia and town being the most common, obviously), and then voila, we have a game.
So, in essence, almost exactly like KOTM? :I
Post by: Vector on July 20, 2011, 07:26:47 pm
I wanna play something cool.
BAKE BAKE WUB WUB BAKE BAKE
Yes, I would play your bastard mod.
Post by: webadict on July 20, 2011, 07:27:59 pm
No. I am not joining The Game That Never Ends.I'm almost done, actually :D
I wanna play something cool.
BAKE BAKE WUB WUB BAKE BAKE
Yes, I would play your bastard mod.
I've just got a few touch-ups left.
And it WOULD end if you played it right.
Post by: Vector on July 20, 2011, 07:28:47 pm
Post by: Darvi on July 20, 2011, 07:30:49 pm
So, in essence, almost exactly like KOTM? :ISort of, but with more people maybe and without all the restarting and with more than one scum.
No. I am not joining The Game That Never Ends.Don't be silly. That would be WWYDT.
Also, what bastard mod? I haven't seen a bastard game here since... well, since those that I (co-)modded.
Post by: lordnincompoop on July 20, 2011, 07:33:15 pm
Also, what bastard mod? I haven't seen a bastard game here since... well, since those that I (co-)modded.
You'll see... *ominous*
Post by: IronyOwl on July 20, 2011, 08:23:43 pm
Post by: Toaster on July 20, 2011, 08:25:40 pm
Post by: breadbocks on July 20, 2011, 08:29:47 pm
Post by: Max White on July 20, 2011, 08:31:22 pm
The basic idea is that everybody has a vengekill that they must use if they are killed in any way, vengekills included.
So the first day starts, goes by, and somebody is lynched. That person then vengekills somebody else, who then vengekills somebody else, and so on until all scum have been killed or scum outnumber townies. The person killed has three days rl time to decide who to vengekill, and during that time everybody may talk. If they don't choose a vengekill in time, it will be chosen at random. So the challenge is not to convince the majority that you have found scum, but to sound the most convincing to a single person.
In theory this game could go very quickly, if people are sure about their targets before they even get killed, and that will most likely happen.
Post by: webadict on July 20, 2011, 08:44:40 pm
Hmm, if we are after a game that isn't bastard and will not go forever, I have been thinking about a chain reaction game type.What happens when scum get killed?
The basic idea is that everybody has a vengekill that they must use if they are killed in any way, vengekills included.
So the first day starts, goes by, and somebody is lynched. That person then vengekills somebody else, who then vengekills somebody else, and so on until all scum have been killed or scum outnumber townies. The person killed has three days rl time to decide who to vengekill, and during that time everybody may talk. If they don't choose a vengekill in time, it will be chosen at random. So the challenge is not to convince the majority that you have found scum, but to sound the most convincing to a single person.
In theory this game could go very quickly, if people are sure about their targets before they even get killed, and that will most likely happen.
Post by: Max White on July 20, 2011, 08:46:29 pm
This makes the scum kill a more careful choice, because killing the toughest town player is handing control over to them.
Post by: Mephansteras on July 21, 2011, 12:02:09 am
I really miss the wizard duel gametype. Someone should totally do an enhanced version of that.
I might be willing to run one of those sometime soon. Might depend on my schedule a bit, since they're even more flavor-heavy than my usual games. But they are a lot of fun. Although I need to tweak things more in the Tower's favor. Cabal has won all three games.
Post by: Pandarsenic on July 21, 2011, 04:32:29 am
Post by: Ottofar on July 21, 2011, 07:13:56 am
Post by: Max White on July 21, 2011, 05:32:13 pm
Post by: Think0028 on July 21, 2011, 05:33:49 pm
Post by: lordnincompoop on July 21, 2011, 07:58:45 pm
Post by: Vector on July 21, 2011, 09:33:01 pm
Breadbocks has been muted for a week. He needs to be replaced in all games he's in.
Post by: webadict on July 21, 2011, 10:02:04 pm
Post by: Vector on July 21, 2011, 10:04:08 pm
Well, way to go breadbocks. Synopsis of why?
Apparently threatened to strangle someone. Over something like how many tildes they use in writing their posts.
The moderation report just says "threatening remarks," though, and what I've gotten from my GD sources is that it had something to do with Solifuge's livestream--so if you need a clearer explanation than that for subforum moderation purposes, you should ask him about it.
Post by: webadict on July 21, 2011, 10:07:27 pm
Post by: Vector on July 21, 2011, 10:08:40 pm
I'm gonna punch that kid!
::) Go suck a lemon, bucko.
Post by: Bdthemag on July 21, 2011, 10:09:17 pm
What have you done, Web is going to get banned now!I'm gonna punch that kid!
::) Go suck a lemon, bucko.
Post by: Mr.Person on July 21, 2011, 10:46:46 pm
I'm gonna punch that kid!
Sure go ahead.
But if you punch his throat, UR GON GET BANNED!
Post by: webadict on July 21, 2011, 10:54:49 pm
Post by: Vector on July 21, 2011, 11:02:51 pm
Post by: webadict on July 21, 2011, 11:07:09 pm
why are we punching goatsThey taste good?
Post by: Vector on July 21, 2011, 11:09:26 pm
why are we punching goatsThey taste good?
. . . The girl with the food avatars says "carry on."
Post by: Mephansteras on July 21, 2011, 11:15:50 pm
So, what games are going in next? The list of active games is pretty small right now.
For me, I can do a Wizard Duel, a Paranormal of some sort, or a Supernatural. Preferences?
Post by: Think0028 on July 21, 2011, 11:18:45 pm
Post by: Vector on July 21, 2011, 11:51:41 pm
Post by: Dariush on July 22, 2011, 10:14:57 am
Failing that, a wizard duel because I've never played one. Not Supernatural because the last one was pretty boring. Or maybe I just don't like half-closed setups.
Post by: Mephansteras on July 22, 2011, 10:35:31 am
Which one's Supernatural?
It's similar to Paranormal, except with a medieval/fantasy theme. So you have Werewolves, Vampires, Witches, Necromancy, and the like. It's got a rather different role set-up than Paranormal. It's also a partially closed set-up, so the various scum and 3rd party role information isn't open to the public the way the Paranormal roles are. Which reminds me, I have a new role to add to the list for Supernatural.
The last one was a bit odd, since I had people role-play it. They came up with some rather bizarre characters. But I thought it went pretty well, overall.
Post by: Darvi on July 22, 2011, 10:37:11 am
Post by: Mephansteras on July 22, 2011, 10:38:09 am
Post by: Vector on July 22, 2011, 10:38:19 am
Post by: Darvi on July 22, 2011, 10:40:36 am
Yeah. I doubt I'll do another RP game anytime soon.Naaaawwwww!!! D:
Post by: Toaster on July 22, 2011, 01:05:24 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on July 22, 2011, 03:26:35 pm
Flavor is fun. :3
Post by: lordnincompoop on July 22, 2011, 09:13:03 pm
If it isn't obvious already, my vote is for Supernat.
Post by: Jack A T on July 22, 2011, 09:48:37 pm
Post by: Bdthemag on July 22, 2011, 09:49:18 pm
So, is anyone interested in another Vengeful?I'd really prefer a gametype that isn't played often on bay12, to mix things up.
Post by: lordnincompoop on July 22, 2011, 09:52:56 pm
So, is anyone interested in another Vengeful?
Possibly.
So, is anyone interested in another Vengeful?I'd really prefer a gametype that isn't played often on bay12, to mix things up.
Meaning Vanillas, Bastards and Marathons. You're going to find it pretty difficult to garner significant interest in gmaetypes like that, because, well, they're pretty unusual/unpopular.
Post by: Bdthemag on July 22, 2011, 09:54:13 pm
Post by: Vector on July 22, 2011, 09:55:11 pm
I'd really prefer a gametype that isn't played often on bay12, to mix things up.
Well, the bastard game is unusual. I'll try to think and see if there's any other great gametypes we've been missing, though.
Everyone likes a good vanilla, though. They're very popular here, but uncommon.
I fucking love Bastard mods, I also have an idea for a semi-bastard mod if anyone's interested. Im not planning on running it anytime in the future, but if you want to hear it I can PM it to you.
You may be my new favorite person of the seventeen seconds. I don't want to hear it, I want to play it.
Post by: Bdthemag on July 22, 2011, 09:57:27 pm
Post by: Bdthemag on July 22, 2011, 10:24:03 pm
Post by: Vector on July 22, 2011, 10:24:39 pm
You know what, im going to try to run it regardless. Unlike mafia games I play in, when I GM I actively GM the game. So suspect it up in a few minutes.
No, that'd be board-flooding. Save it for at least a week.
Post by: Bdthemag on July 22, 2011, 10:25:07 pm
Oh Vector, inspiring me to run a game then telling me to save it :PYou know what, im going to try to run it regardless. Unlike mafia games I play in, when I GM I actively GM the game. So suspect it up in a few minutes.
No, that'd be board-flooding. Save it for at least a week.
Post by: Vector on July 22, 2011, 10:25:31 pm
This is a time when we actually have to control activity, but games are filling reasonably well.
Post by: webadict on July 22, 2011, 10:33:23 pm
Can't believe I was so happy to be able to post that, actually. I'm really feeling pretty glad.Only a week ago and it was too difficult to start a game...
This is a time when we actually have to control activity, but games are filling reasonably well.
Post by: Max White on July 23, 2011, 04:08:41 am
To be honest, I did break the first rule of mafia, I didn't play to win. At that point I just really wanted to destroy something, and I saw a hammer laying just there. Not only did I destroy the game, but afterwards I was bitchy to the mod. I love the community here, and I did just about one of the most harmful things to it, so I am very sorry.
I haven't been ok these last few days. When I am feeling more myself I will come back to play again.
Post by: webadict on July 23, 2011, 07:18:56 am
Darvi, and everybody else involved in Vengeful 8, I need to apologise.Technically, you DID play to win. You just did it in a roundabout way that was pretty stupid. We've all done stupid things before.
To be honest, I did break the first rule of mafia, I didn't play to win. At that point I just really wanted to destroy something, and I saw a hammer laying just there. Not only did I destroy the game, but afterwards I was bitchy to the mod. I love the community here, and I did just about one of the most harmful things to it, so I am very sorry.
I haven't been ok these last few days. When I am feeling more myself I will come back to play again.
Post by: Jim Groovester on July 23, 2011, 03:36:15 pm
Yeah... ???
So, what games are going in next? The list of active games is pretty small right now.
For me, I can do a Wizard Duel, a Paranormal of some sort, or a Supernatural. Preferences?
Paranormal or Supernatural. People seem to be leaning towards Supernatural, so I'm cool with that.
Also, I'm back from my trip. I knew you all missed me, and/or cared that I was gone.
Post by: Darvi on July 23, 2011, 03:37:51 pm
Post by: Think0028 on July 23, 2011, 03:47:55 pm
Post by: lordnincompoop on July 23, 2011, 03:53:26 pm
Yeah... ???
So, what games are going in next? The list of active games is pretty small right now.
For me, I can do a Wizard Duel, a Paranormal of some sort, or a Supernatural. Preferences?
Paranormal or Supernatural. People seem to be leaning towards Supernatural, so I'm cool with that.
Also, I'm back from my trip. I knew you all missed me, and/or cared that I was gone.
Welcome back. I'm sure the other inmates will be glad to see you.
Post by: Jim Groovester on July 23, 2011, 03:59:21 pm
You were gone? I didn't notice.
Allow me to present my ass for you to kiss in a grand ceremony celebrating my glorious return.
Post by: Bdthemag on July 23, 2011, 04:37:47 pm
Post by: webadict on July 23, 2011, 06:55:37 pm
Don't worry about it Max, i've done plenty of stupid things. Like accidently hammering when I was town in KotM, ugh never again. So I plan on running a semi-bastard mod next week, i'll run it regardless of if I have a co-mod or not but i'd really like a co-mod.Or like NOT hammering as KING MAFIA at the end when you would've won.
Post by: Bdthemag on July 23, 2011, 06:59:38 pm
Yes, I am very stupid. BUT I MUST STRUGGLE THROUGH MY STUPIDNESS, I WILL LEARN DAMNIT!Don't worry about it Max, i've done plenty of stupid things. Like accidently hammering when I was town in KotM, ugh never again. So I plan on running a semi-bastard mod next week, i'll run it regardless of if I have a co-mod or not but i'd really like a co-mod.Or like NOT hammering as KING MAFIA at the end when you would've won.
Post by: Leafsnail on July 23, 2011, 07:16:03 pm
Post by: Bdthemag on July 23, 2011, 08:01:54 pm
If you're playing a hammer game, you should always think about whether a hammer is possible before posting, then about whether you want to hammer or not.Yeah it was one of my first games, I wasn't paying attention to who voted or not :/
Post by: Max White on July 23, 2011, 08:36:35 pm
I'm feeling sort of alright right now, and would like to be productive, but I have been having my ups and downs. I guess I could help out when feeling sociable.
Post by: Bdthemag on July 23, 2011, 08:40:37 pm
Post by: Max White on July 23, 2011, 08:47:39 pm
Post by: Bdthemag on July 23, 2011, 08:51:19 pm
I guess I will be up for that.I'll pm you the details.
Post by: Max White on July 23, 2011, 09:04:37 pm
Oh wow, you serious Bd? Hell, why did you want me to co-mod, now I can't be in! Heartbreaking... Well at least I can watch the chaos unfold.
Post by: Bdthemag on July 23, 2011, 09:16:30 pm
*Inbox[1]*See? Max White approves of my setup, that means its going to be somewhat good right?
Oh wow, you serious Bd? Hell, why did you want me to co-mod, now I can't be in! Heartbreaking... Well at least I can watch the chaos unfold.
Post by: Max White on July 23, 2011, 09:24:31 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on July 23, 2011, 11:15:56 pm
Warning, I'm terrible at balance. Don't expect miracles, although I do have lots of ideas generally.
Post by: Think0028 on July 23, 2011, 11:58:31 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on July 25, 2011, 04:01:23 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on July 25, 2011, 04:30:09 pm
Supernatural 4 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?action=post;msg=2473824;topic=89665.0) has entered sign-ups
Want a Monkey with a Typewriter for hasting flavor along?
Post by: Mephansteras on July 25, 2011, 04:34:04 pm
Supernatural 4 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?action=post;msg=2473824;topic=89665.0) has entered sign-ups
Want a Monkey with a Typewriter for hasting flavor along?
Perhaps. I DO enjoy writing my own flavor, though. Sure you wouldn't rather play?
Post by: Pandarsenic on July 25, 2011, 04:41:05 pm
Post by: Toaster on July 28, 2011, 09:17:43 am
Any requests for a game to run next? I'll wait a couple days before I put anything up since we have several in early stages.
Post by: Vector on July 28, 2011, 09:31:53 am
Post by: Toaster on July 28, 2011, 09:34:00 am
Post by: webadict on July 28, 2011, 10:05:55 am
Post by: Bdthemag on July 28, 2011, 02:44:57 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on July 28, 2011, 03:32:39 pm
It would be called "Instigate Fun: A Mafia Misadventure" (The AMM subtitle being now my standard name for crazy shit happening). It would be light on the "special" third parties and would play MOSTLY normally, save for the ability to Instigate Fun. A team (town, Mafia, cult if I have one) cannot win unless they use their personal Instigate Fun abilities. However, a player's Instigate Fun makes it harder for them and/or their team to win. Essentially, you can't win until you've inflicted a certain number of setbacks on yourself. Also, since not all Fun Instigation would be announced, town might not know how many of them have Instigated Fun.
Additionally, anyone with more than 36 non-weekend hours between posts would immediately trigger their Instigation of Fun and then be modkilled, because hell with that. <_<
Post by: Vector on July 28, 2011, 03:33:48 pm
Post by: Toaster on July 28, 2011, 03:49:28 pm
Would a recruited cultist's FUN change (assuming it was anti-town)?
Post by: Pandarsenic on July 28, 2011, 05:21:40 pm
Also, the Scum Team COULD try to mass-Instigate Fun but that MIGHT do something like taking away some of their votes and/or their Nightkill... or other such Fun.
This is DF-style Fun, for reference.
Post by: Think0028 on July 28, 2011, 05:24:53 pm
Post by: Bdthemag on July 28, 2011, 05:30:11 pm
Post by: Max White on July 28, 2011, 05:35:50 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on July 28, 2011, 06:02:45 pm
What would happen if a team would win, except they have Fun that hasn't been executed yet?Nothing. :D
Post by: Think0028 on July 28, 2011, 06:14:27 pm
Post by: webadict on July 28, 2011, 06:25:22 pm
So why wouldn't scum just let Town screw themselves over, kill ALL the townies, then execute their fun when it's the least likely to screw them over? Or is FUN not deterministic, and you'll just screw them over more the more they try to outwit you?Maybe some Fun is time sensitive?
"Activating this Fun kills X people on your team, where X is the Day."
Post by: Think0028 on July 28, 2011, 06:28:05 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on July 28, 2011, 06:29:19 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on July 29, 2011, 11:30:33 am
Post by: TolyK on July 30, 2011, 09:12:48 am
Post by: Max White on July 30, 2011, 05:59:06 pm
Post by: JoshuaFH on July 30, 2011, 06:00:17 pm
Post by: Max White on July 30, 2011, 06:02:05 pm
Post by: lordnincompoop on July 30, 2011, 06:07:00 pm
I guess I'm back to play some Mafia, since I basically have a month and a half of nothing to do.
Awesome. Welcome back.
Post by: Think0028 on July 30, 2011, 06:07:49 pm
Post by: webadict on July 30, 2011, 06:08:22 pm
I guess I'm back to play some Mafia, since I basically have a month and a half of nothing to do.You might be able to rejoin KotM then!
Post by: JoshuaFH on July 30, 2011, 06:15:08 pm
I guess I'm back to play some Mafia, since I basically have a month and a half of nothing to do.You might be able to rejoin KotM then!
Oh, I definitely will. I won't give up on the title of KING OF THE MAFIA just yet.
Post by: TolyK on July 31, 2011, 03:43:04 am
Sup TolyK! Where have you been? Have you broke a wing? I haven't heard from you in so long.Was at a place with 3kbps internet for 8 days...
:-\
Otherwise was good.
...
So, anything interesting going on? Any games needing players that I should join?
[/lazyness]
Post by: Max White on July 31, 2011, 03:49:33 am
Have I got an offer for you... (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=89665.0)
Make it an even 12!
Post by: Toaster on August 17, 2011, 02:15:27 pm
Any requests? I could do Roguelike 3, try Bad Dudes (ninjas!) again if I could get 13 people, do something new, or do a simpler ([Nearly] Mountainous) game.
I had a BYOR-type idea: Bring your own Picture. Your submission is any picture, and your role comes from that.
Post by: Vector on August 17, 2011, 02:21:39 pm
You should probably also wait in the Mountainous, because the person who REALLY loves them (Pandar) isn't here.
I think I'd recommend Roguelike 3, since 2 was so short.
Post by: IronyOwl on August 17, 2011, 02:33:16 pm
Post by: Jack A T on August 17, 2011, 02:39:43 pm
Post by: Darvi on August 17, 2011, 02:42:05 pm
I'm soooo gonna send this in.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on August 17, 2011, 02:43:22 pm
(http://www.ihasabucket.com/images/walrus_bucket.jpg)Did you hotlink that? Don't hotlink stuff, it doesn't show up for most people.
Post by: Darvi on August 17, 2011, 02:49:42 pm
However, h8 at my connection for crashing after I accidentally clicked Post.
Post by: lordnincompoop on August 17, 2011, 02:50:07 pm
With the three open (non-beginner) games moving along, it's about time for another Toaster game!
Any requests? I could do Roguelike 3, try Bad Dudes (ninjas!) again if I could get 13 people, do something new, or do a simpler ([Nearly] Mountainous) game.
I had a BYOR-type idea: Bring your own Picture. Your submission is any picture, and your role comes from that.
Roguelike or NSBM would be fun.
I wouldn't mind the BYOP idea either.
Post by: Think0028 on August 17, 2011, 03:19:36 pm
Post by: Toaster on August 17, 2011, 09:43:28 pm
I'd be up for BYOP or Roguelike 3, but another thing: once Witch's Coven ends, I'd like to run my Cult Mafia game if people are interested.
That game stands to take a while yet. By the time it's over, RL3 will probably be 2-3 days in- I don't think you'll be crowded out.
Post by: Dariush on August 18, 2011, 01:31:19 pm
Post by: Darvi on August 18, 2011, 01:52:29 pm
How do people decide who hosts the next BM?They ask in the top sticky.
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Also, can I host the next one?Noooooooooooooooooo! [/snarkasm]
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Also, can I host the next one while the current one is still ongoing? :DI don't think enough people are interested considering we just started the last one and anybody interested has already joined that one.
Post by: Vector on August 18, 2011, 02:39:23 pm
This is partially to keep from driving the IC pool completely insane.
Post by: Jim Groovester on August 18, 2011, 06:53:52 pm
Post by: Max White on August 18, 2011, 11:01:39 pm
You need to be pretty active and it is a lot easier to replace a player than a mod. If you want to I don't think anybody will stop you, but it does take commitment.
In other news, did I miss a memo about supernatural 4? It has been in night time for a while now. I don't want to talk about an ongoing game too much, but it has been in night time for a while now. Meph is ok, right?
Post by: Jim Groovester on August 18, 2011, 11:05:16 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 18, 2011, 11:35:25 pm
Post by: Toaster on August 19, 2011, 06:39:33 am
Post by: Mephansteras on August 19, 2011, 11:06:55 am
It's not unusual for the night on Meph games to last more than 48 hours- he's pretty generous on waiting for night actions (and he writes lots of flavor). It'll probably start this AM.
Yeah, I'm just working on the flavor right now. Day phase will start once I get all that done.
Post by: Toaster on August 19, 2011, 11:20:32 am
Post by: Dariush on August 19, 2011, 11:29:42 am
You sure your up for it, Dariush?I'm online 12 hours per day, every day, and I check the board every half hour at the rarest. One doesn't get much more active than that :)
You need to be pretty active and it is a lot easier to replace a player than a mod. If you want to I don't think anybody will stop you, but it does take commitment.
Post by: Darvi on August 19, 2011, 11:52:48 am
20h per day on average. Minus the time when I'm distracted by other stuff. Top that.You sure your up for it, Dariush?I'm online 12 hours per day, every day, and I check the board every half hour at the rarest. One doesn't get much more active than that :)
You need to be pretty active and it is a lot easier to replace a player than a mod. If you want to I don't think anybody will stop you, but it does take commitment.
Post by: Mr.Person on August 19, 2011, 06:23:07 pm
BAM!
Post by: Max White on August 19, 2011, 10:02:53 pm
I'll host 40 people if they join!Shall we try to get as many people as we can in, for shits and giggles?
Post by: Toaster on August 19, 2011, 10:03:47 pm
Post by: Max White on August 19, 2011, 10:05:47 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on August 19, 2011, 10:33:03 pm
Post by: Max White on August 20, 2011, 05:23:10 am
Would there be interest for this?
Post by: Dariush on August 20, 2011, 07:19:00 am
Post by: Max White on August 20, 2011, 07:21:35 am
But seriously, I can make it work without needing the flavour I guess. Like I said, I have a real gift for the scum players. Still, show of hands for flavour driven or not.
Post by: Darvi on August 20, 2011, 07:23:30 am
Post by: Dariush on August 20, 2011, 07:25:14 am
Personally I liked to extract information from flavour, so I'm for it. Just take care to include contradicting statements in different players' flavour (like different names for the only inn in town, etc.) ;)
Post by: Max White on August 20, 2011, 07:27:56 am
Cue the mafia winning because they're a bunch of sycophantic psychopaths.Stop trying to fish for clues. Don't worry, I have done statistical testing on this thing, it is close to balanced from a mathematical point of view, and although I can't predict what players will do, they will need to be a little better than that to easily win.
Post by: webadict on August 20, 2011, 07:30:01 am
I'd help co-mod/balance-check it. Mostly because I would have no time to play.Cue the mafia winning because they're a bunch of sycophantic psychopaths.Stop trying to fish for clues. Don't worry, I have done statistical testing on this thing, it is close to balanced from a mathematical point of view, and although I can't predict what players will do, they will need to be a little better than that to easily win.
Post by: Max White on August 20, 2011, 07:31:40 am
Post by: lordnincompoop on August 20, 2011, 07:32:06 am
I can only hope they will... A ha... A ha ha ha... MUHAHAHAHAHA
But seriously, I can make it work without needing the flavour I guess. Like I said, I have a real gift for the scum players. Still, show of hands for flavour driven or not.
Your call, honestly.
Personally I liked to extract information from flavour, so I'm for it. Just take care to include contradicting statements in different players' flavour (like different names for the only inn in town, etc.) ;)
And make sure to modkill people that try to talk about things in active games.
Post by: Darvi on August 20, 2011, 07:34:04 am
Stop trying to fish for clues.I wasn't. Your statement however, tells me much about what you were thinking there. Petard hoist much?
Post by: Max White on August 20, 2011, 07:36:29 am
Post by: Dariush on August 20, 2011, 07:56:25 am
I just gave that as an example. INQUISITION SHALL NOT PASS!Personally I liked to extract information from flavour, so I'm for it. Just take care to include contradicting statements in different players' flavour (like different names for the only inn in town, etc.) ;)
And make sure to modkill people that try to talk about things in active games.
Post by: Max White on August 20, 2011, 07:57:20 am
Post by: Dariush on August 20, 2011, 08:48:42 am
I think the hint was to STOP TALKING ABOUT THAT GAME!!!Which game? The one where you were lynched on D1?
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Max White on August 20, 2011, 08:51:54 am
WE STOP NOW
Post by: Mindmaker on August 20, 2011, 04:34:01 pm
I hope I won't miss the sign-ups.
Post by: Max White on August 20, 2011, 05:42:18 pm
I can also PM you as soon as a new one opens if you like.
Post by: Mindmaker on August 20, 2011, 06:10:33 pm
Having to consider the past actions of the replaced person all the time, as well as having to read a game I wasn't part of, just messes with my mind.
But letting me know when a new one opens would be very nice.
Thank you.
Post by: Max White on August 20, 2011, 06:16:50 pm
Post by: Max White on August 20, 2011, 10:06:42 pm
Post by: TolyK on August 21, 2011, 01:20:14 pm
Roles for that game I was talking about have been wubbaproved.hm... i got back...
pm me maybe? ;)
Post by: Vector on August 21, 2011, 01:59:14 pm
I have school about to start and I promised myself that I'd be spending less time on the net and more time working my ass off. Not only that, but I suspect I'll actually do it--and as a person who is kind of bad at time allotments in the best of days, I don't really want to be juggling Mafia with everything else.
Also, I sort of thought a lot of these were going to be more done by the time the school year rolled around =/
Anyway, I'll miss you guys. I hope that all goes well.
Post by: Think0028 on August 21, 2011, 02:06:18 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on August 21, 2011, 02:08:07 pm
So...looks like I need more people for Supernatural now. Anyone want to replace in?
Post by: Vector on August 21, 2011, 02:10:22 pm
Right now I'm socializing enough that socializing more via mafia games is kind of not working.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 21, 2011, 06:24:46 pm
I'm gonna be phasing out my Mafia participation by next month as well, probably.
Post by: Vector on August 21, 2011, 08:24:58 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on August 21, 2011, 10:09:55 pm
Post by: Vector on August 22, 2011, 03:56:21 am
I say that chiefly because this is the first haircut I've ever received.
Post by: TolyK on August 22, 2011, 04:30:56 am
... the first haircut I've ever received....
Post by: webadict on August 22, 2011, 06:58:29 am
... Ever?... the first haircut I've ever received....
How long to how short? I'd check the thread, but I prefer keeping you all anonymous faces, so that I can be as awesome a person as I usually am.
Post by: Vector on August 22, 2011, 02:16:56 pm
Knees to chin.
Post by: Darvi on August 22, 2011, 02:38:15 pm
I believe there to be some sort of symbolism.
Post by: IronyOwl on August 22, 2011, 06:52:20 pm
Post by: Vector on August 22, 2011, 07:26:29 pm
Or her family's f*cking weird.
... ?
The cut in question was my idea, and it was indeed semi-symbolic. Though my family is also fairly fucking weird, thanks for noticing :D
Post by: IronyOwl on August 23, 2011, 01:41:18 am
Post by: Vector on August 23, 2011, 03:51:29 am
Post by: webadict on August 23, 2011, 09:19:30 am
I bet you were just spending a lot on shampoo and conditioner and wanted to save money.Or her family's f*cking weird.
... ?
The cut in question was my idea, and it was indeed semi-symbolic. Though my family is also fairly fucking weird, thanks for noticing :D
Post by: Mr.Person on August 23, 2011, 01:24:39 pm
Post by: Vector on August 23, 2011, 01:26:23 pm
I had an idea for a bastard mod, actually, which I might be willing to sell out to someone. Dunno if it'd be very good, though. The idea came pretty late at night.
Post by: Darvi on August 23, 2011, 01:43:16 pm
Post by: Max White on September 04, 2011, 02:18:55 am
Also, settled on a name for the mafia I will host soon. How does Ockham's Mafia sound?
Post by: Mr.Person on September 04, 2011, 02:35:15 am
Partying partying, yeah.
Fun fun fun fun.
Post by: Max White on September 04, 2011, 02:38:54 am
Mafia at bay12!
Where is everybody on the weekend, weekend?
Post by: Orangebottle on September 05, 2011, 12:58:46 pm
Double mafia.
Basically, a game of mafia that is actually two being run in the same thread simultaneously, with the same players. They'd have radically different themes and roles.
Post by: lordnincompoop on September 05, 2011, 01:47:51 pm
You know what would be neat, and extremely bastardy?
Double mafia.
Basically, a game of mafia that is actually two being run in the same thread simultaneously, with the same players. They'd have radically different themes and roles.
Neat, but you would need to reconfigure the voting system, and the Day/Night system if they're not synchronised.
Actually, now that I think about it, you could have even length Day/Night phases, but have the players be active for both; Game A would be in D1 during N1, and Game B would be in D2 during Game A's N1. That'd solve both problems.
Of course, there's the issue of activity for something that intense, and that's harder to work around.
Post by: TolyK on September 05, 2011, 01:49:16 pm
Post by: Dariush on September 05, 2011, 02:14:49 pm
Actually, now that I think about it, you could have even length Day/Night phases, but have the players be active for both; Game A would be in D1 during N1, and Game B would be in D2 during Game A's N1. That'd solve both problems.Something tells me that it would fail miserably, since people would essentially forget that they are technically in different games and continue the old arguments. However, if it was something like Paranormal, where everyone has a role, it may actually work out.
Post by: Darvi on September 05, 2011, 02:17:43 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on September 05, 2011, 02:34:50 pm
Post by: ECrownofFire on September 05, 2011, 04:22:14 pm
Post by: Darvi on September 05, 2011, 04:25:14 pm
Never caught on.
Either way, Paranoia is horrible for mafia really because everybody is a mutant, traitor, or a commie. Except for me, of course.
Post by: Max White on September 05, 2011, 04:27:28 pm
Oh yea, shot gun starcraft flavour, mine now! Infested terrains ahoy!
Post by: Vector on September 05, 2011, 04:28:19 pm
Didn't we try this already where you had to win both games to be a real winner? I dunno, I didn't participate.
Parallel World, or something like that. Dakarian ran it.
Post by: Max White on September 05, 2011, 04:36:01 pm
Post by: Darvi on September 05, 2011, 04:38:46 pm
Post by: Max White on September 05, 2011, 04:40:15 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on September 05, 2011, 04:46:17 pm
Post by: Max White on September 05, 2011, 04:48:50 pm
The win requirement would be living until the game is over in both games. As soon as one game is over, they both end.
Also, PIME TARADOX MAFIA!
Post by: Darvi on September 05, 2011, 05:14:02 pm
Also, PIME TARADOX MAFIA!
JIM IS DEAD.
NO VECTOR! YOU CAN'T DO THAT! THE FUTURE WILL BE CHANGED! YOU CREATED A TIME PARADOX!
Post by: webadict on September 05, 2011, 05:42:54 pm
Also, PIME TARADOX MAFIA!JIM IS DEAD.
NO VECTOR! YOU CAN'T DO THAT! THE FUTURE WILL BE CHANGED! YOU CREATED A TIME PARADOX!
Time Paradox had a bunch of time travelers, and we won by roleblocking the mafia in the past, reviving me from the dead, after we lynched ToonyMan for claiming Doctor when he was mafia.
Also, yes, Parallel Mafia was won by Pandarsenic and I as we murdered the other world's Mafia and then proceeded to win our world. Using both of our parallel world powers.
What's worse than one Wuba? :D
Post by: Mr.Person on September 05, 2011, 10:55:15 pm
Post by: webadict on September 06, 2011, 01:18:37 pm
Totally had everything down. I wanted to win the Xanatos way, but AA was just being a dork.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 06, 2011, 10:08:46 pm
Also, yes, Parallel Mafia was won by Pandarsenic and I as we murdered the other world's Mafia and then proceeded to win our world. Using both of our parallel world powers.
*Moonwalks in*
*Brofist to Wuba*
*Moonwalks out*
Post by: Max White on September 08, 2011, 09:29:51 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on September 08, 2011, 10:52:48 pm
Post by: webadict on September 08, 2011, 11:00:22 pm
Though, I have plenty of other games in store.
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 08, 2011, 11:01:32 pm
Post by: webadict on September 08, 2011, 11:10:07 pm
I don't have time for play/full-modding but I could co-mod something.I've still got bits from Romeo and Juliet Mafia...
Post by: Max White on September 08, 2011, 11:10:45 pm
This is making me nostalgic for Dakarian and CoKo. Somebody needs to run another I'll Met By Moonlight game, as that mechanic was awesome. For those that don't know, if [REDACTED], then [REDACTED] or [DATA EXPUNGED] purple tentacles [REDACTED], with a side of garbanzo beans.Reading over that game, looks like the bay12 mafia meta has evolved a lot since then. If somebody tried any of that, they would be lynched instantly! Shame, that looks like a lot of fun and insanity.
Also
GET OFF YOU VULTURES!
I haven't spent all this time designing roles and flavor and fun for nothing. MUHAHAHAHAHA!! Next game is mine to mod!
Post by: Jack A T on September 09, 2011, 12:12:59 am
Post by: Think0028 on September 09, 2011, 02:31:41 am
Post by: Toaster on September 09, 2011, 06:23:33 am
I'd like to eventually try to run a Vengeful Mafia game, if anyone is interested.
You should be able to fill a 5p game pretty easily. I don't see a problem with moving it ahead to signups.
Post by: Max White on September 09, 2011, 06:25:54 am
I think we have room for another game in signups. Got a couple getting long in.Does that mean me? God you have no idea how much flavour I have made for this!
Although I should put down the game rules somewhere... Haven't got them on paper yet. Give me a second.
Post by: Max White on September 09, 2011, 06:42:08 am
Post by: Bdthemag on September 11, 2011, 03:14:27 pm
Post by: Dariush on September 12, 2011, 06:02:31 am
Post by: Darvi on September 12, 2011, 06:04:16 am
Of course, now that Cult Mafia and Occam's Razor have started I may have to postpone or else nobody will have the time to join.
Post by: Max White on September 12, 2011, 06:15:15 am
Post by: Darvi on September 12, 2011, 06:24:21 am
Maybe when Super and RL are over.
Post by: Max White on September 12, 2011, 06:28:28 am
Post by: Dariush on September 12, 2011, 07:41:18 am
Post by: webadict on September 12, 2011, 08:15:38 am
Post by: TolyK on September 12, 2011, 02:46:29 pm
AND DAMN THE DAY-END NINJA >:(
Post by: Darvi on September 12, 2011, 04:02:42 pm
Because whoever decided that people should study during the heat of summer should get resurrected and lynched in boiling oil.
Repeatedly.
Post by: TolyK on September 12, 2011, 04:09:50 pm
It's (eastern) European. :P
And it will be like this nearly constantly, so I'll have to limit my internet time more soon... anyways, I'll finish this game and have at most 1 at a time, with insta-posts instead of huge monoliths. :P
Post by: Darvi on September 12, 2011, 08:45:11 pm
Post by: Toaster on September 19, 2011, 08:03:55 pm
Any requests for next game? It'll probably be a little bit in any case, since there are a couple in signups that aren't filling. BYO Picture was requested by a couple people.
Post by: Max White on September 19, 2011, 08:10:32 pm
Although they don't seem very popular... What was BYO picture?
Post by: Toaster on September 19, 2011, 08:16:18 pm
Post by: Max White on September 19, 2011, 08:18:09 pm
Post by: Toaster on September 19, 2011, 08:43:51 pm
Post by: Max White on September 19, 2011, 08:44:18 pm
Can we draw our own pictures? :P
Post by: Toaster on September 19, 2011, 08:54:04 pm
Post by: Orangebottle on September 19, 2011, 08:55:35 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on September 19, 2011, 09:09:57 pm
Post by: ECrownofFire on September 19, 2011, 10:14:45 pm
Sounds really fun though.
Post by: Toaster on September 19, 2011, 10:15:53 pm
Post by: Jack A T on September 19, 2011, 10:24:06 pm
Post by: Max White on September 19, 2011, 10:25:33 pm
Post by: ECrownofFire on September 19, 2011, 10:26:38 pm
If you could post it in General Discussion without it a mod removing it and you getting warned/banned, it's okay.Hmm, I still need a way of measuring that :P
Post by: Max White on September 19, 2011, 10:27:19 pm
Post by: Jack A T on September 19, 2011, 10:27:34 pm
I call bullshit Jack.
I actually kind of wonder what powers I would get from that.
*Lurking
*FAILURE
*Fuck
and such, probably.
Post by: Max White on September 19, 2011, 10:28:56 pm
Post by: ECrownofFire on September 19, 2011, 10:35:26 pm
I'm totally going to use a spiky blue dragon head.Just because of you, I'm preemptively claiming any and all dragon-related things here :P
Also, I came up with a silly idea for a setup that would consist of the Devil from Supernatural who can only grant inspects, and some number of vanilla townies. Who'd be up for it? I just need to figure out the exact number of townies there'd have to be for balance, and the amount of souls the devil would need.
Post by: Max White on September 19, 2011, 10:54:43 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: ECrownofFire on September 19, 2011, 11:02:12 pm
Ooh man, I have a few ideas already.Oh, fuck you. I'd send in a properSpoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Max White on September 19, 2011, 11:06:03 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
EVERYBODY SHOULD PICK A DRAGON FOR THIS GAME! DRAGONS FOR ALL!
Sorry Crown, we ran out of dragons for you.
EDIT: Also, Org just posted in the general forum, I wonder if he will stop on by... :P
Post by: ECrownofFire on September 19, 2011, 11:15:37 pm
SOO MANY TO CHOOSE FROM!!!Oh, no, I have plenty more. I just need toSpoiler (click to show/hide)
EVERYBODY SHOULD PICK A DRAGON FOR THIS GAME! DRAGONS FOR ALL!
Sorry Crown, we ran out of dragons for you...
And once again, only 3 of 5 are actually dragons.
Post by: Max White on September 19, 2011, 11:20:13 pm
Post by: ECrownofFire on September 19, 2011, 11:23:25 pm
Oh Crown... Sooo easy.... What's easy? Should I be worried about something?
Post by: Max White on September 19, 2011, 11:24:08 pm
Post by: ECrownofFire on September 19, 2011, 11:24:35 pm
Yes.So... what should I be worried about? :P
Post by: Max White on September 19, 2011, 11:24:46 pm
Post by: ECrownofFire on September 19, 2011, 11:25:52 pm
Me!That still doesn't explain a damn thing.
Post by: Max White on September 19, 2011, 11:27:03 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: ECrownofFire on September 19, 2011, 11:36:42 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on September 20, 2011, 12:50:27 am
Spoiler: My Dragon Choice (click to show/hide)
Hotlinking, ho!
Post by: ECrownofFire on September 20, 2011, 01:19:21 am
Spoiler: Very certainly NSFW/"creepy shit" (click to show/hide)
But hell, if the LoL thread can link to certain things in this post (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=84446.msg2622347#msg2622347) and get away with it, then where's the limit? :P
Post by: Jim Groovester on September 20, 2011, 01:22:20 am
Post by: Vector on September 20, 2011, 01:25:42 am
How about what people who frequent the mafia subforum don't want to see in their threads?
Post by: ECrownofFire on September 20, 2011, 01:39:51 am
If it really offends you that much, I can remove it. I try to avoid posting things that cause people to be offended. But you never really know how somebody's going to react. I see the image as a simple joke, if one that's fairly crude.How about what people who frequent the mafia subforum don't want to see in their threads?
Would the replaced image be alright?
Post by: Jim Groovester on September 20, 2011, 01:42:30 am
It doesn't offend me, I just don't want to stumble across creepy shit while I'm playing or thinking about mafia.
Post by: ECrownofFire on September 20, 2011, 01:48:54 am
Post by: Mephansteras on September 20, 2011, 11:00:06 am
Post by: Toaster on September 20, 2011, 12:15:30 pm
That said, I'd probably veto the image in question. While I'm pretty much impossible to offend, not everyone is like that.
Post by: Darvi on September 20, 2011, 02:29:35 pm
Thing is that a) I'm trying not to make roles based on the same people as the other B12 mafia (I'd rather have something about the newer players, which you could imagine is difficult), and
b)I don't think that there will be so many people joining so why am I even bothered about a) in the first place.
Post by: Orangebottle on September 20, 2011, 05:35:37 pm
So I've got 13-15 or so roles for my game.Will there be an OrangeBabble SK role, which blocks and kills a person at night via retardation?
Thing is that a) I'm trying not to make roles based on the same people as the other B12 mafia (I'd rather have something about the newer players, which you could imagine is difficult), and
b)I don't think that there will be so many people joining so why am I even bothered about a) in the first place.
:U
Post by: Darvi on September 20, 2011, 05:40:34 pm
Post by: ECrownofFire on September 20, 2011, 05:47:45 pm
Post by: Max White on September 20, 2011, 05:49:49 pm
Post by: Darvi on September 20, 2011, 05:57:22 pm
To both.
Post by: Bdthemag on September 20, 2011, 05:59:11 pm
Post by: Max White on September 20, 2011, 06:00:18 pm
God that thing can be brutal some times.
Post by: Jack A T on September 20, 2011, 06:49:52 pm
Post by: Powder Miner on September 20, 2011, 06:52:22 pm
Post by: Darvi on September 20, 2011, 06:53:36 pm
Jake F G with...um...I'm really not sure what people consider to be my defining characteristic or moment. "I AM A WAFFLE"?You can be Cap'n Jack.
Post by: Vector on September 20, 2011, 07:27:56 pm
Post by: Darvi on September 20, 2011, 07:48:57 pm
Post by: ECrownofFire on September 20, 2011, 08:53:58 pm
5 players. 1 Devil from Supernatural that only offers inspects. 2 souls required for win, but he doesn't win until the end of the day after (so the Town gets a chance to lynch him). The goal of the town is to lynch the Devil before he gets his souls. The setup could be extended to have 2 Devils cooperating, more players, and/or more souls required.
The way the Devil works (as I understand it) is that you give a deal to a person of your choosing each night. The deal is a one-shot power for their soul, but you can just reject the deal. If the Devil acquires X souls (3 in Supernatural), he wins.
Any opinions/suggestions?
Post by: Powder Miner on September 20, 2011, 11:01:14 pm
Post by: ECrownofFire on September 21, 2011, 01:55:20 am
If the devil's the opponent, what's to stop everyone from refusing?Why would you refuse when you can get an inspect and potentially find the Devil? But yeah, it probably needs some kind of outside force affecting it. What if you were forced to take the deal? The flavor would change to something other than the Devil, but it could work...
Actually, here's another interesting thought. 5 people: four Townies, one Mafia. First day goes as normal, with a lynch. First night, the Mafia chooses to kill somebody, then a random Townie gets a one-shot inspect. Then a second day with a lynch, and game ends.
I'm practically spewing out random setups now. I want to run something new and exciting.
Post by: Think0028 on September 21, 2011, 02:01:29 am
Post by: Jim Groovester on September 21, 2011, 02:03:51 am
5 players. 1 Devil from Supernatural that only offers inspects. 2 souls required for win, but he doesn't win until the end of the day after (so the Town gets a chance to lynch him). The goal of the town is to lynch the Devil before he gets his souls. The setup could be extended to have 2 Devils cooperating, more players, and/or more souls required.
This setup is ridiculously breakable.
Devil offers deal to townie -> Townie claims inspect result on following day. If devil, lynch devil. If no counterclaim, two confirmed townies. Everybody else agrees to refuse deals, they lynch their way to victory. If the devil does counterclaim, townies agree to refuse any deals, then they lynch both claimants.
If the Devil tries to win there is no way the town can lose.
Post by: ECrownofFire on September 21, 2011, 02:44:29 am
Perhaps some kind of kill? Person dies immediately... Eh, the game would be far too fast. Person dying at the end of the next day could be workable...
Hmm...
Oh, what if you had two Devils cooperating instead, who have the "deal" as a team ability?
Post by: Mephansteras on September 21, 2011, 09:28:52 am
Post by: Dariush on September 21, 2011, 09:51:25 am
Anyone willing to replace into Supernatural 4? I'd really like to end the game without anyone missing.I'd really like to, but I doubt you'll accept me :(
Post by: Mephansteras on September 21, 2011, 11:46:07 am
Anyone willing to replace into Supernatural 4? I'd really like to end the game without anyone missing.I'd really like to, but I doubt you'll accept me :(
Yeah, kinda needs to be someone who wasn't already in the game.
Post by: Ottofar on September 21, 2011, 11:52:19 am
Post by: Mephansteras on September 21, 2011, 12:47:24 pm
I'm up for it, if you'll have me. I just gotta write a couple of essays for Friday.
As long as you can be reasonably active for the day phase, that would be great.
Post by: Ottofar on September 21, 2011, 01:15:39 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on September 21, 2011, 01:33:12 pm
I'm free starting this Friday, so I think I'd be.
Good enough. I'll PM you the details. Day should start sometime around 5pm pacific today.
Post by: Simple on September 23, 2011, 03:46:30 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on September 23, 2011, 04:09:26 pm
You can send the set-up to me to review if you want.
Post by: Simple on September 23, 2011, 04:51:42 pm
Post by: Vector on September 23, 2011, 04:53:05 pm
Post by: Bdthemag on September 24, 2011, 03:57:51 pm
Post by: Dariush on September 25, 2011, 09:16:53 am
Bluh, im dissapointed that Confusion Mafia isn't getting off the ground. I should probally just start with fucking stopping lurking.Fix'd that for you.
Post by: Mephansteras on September 27, 2011, 06:59:34 pm
Probably won't start for a bit, though. We have 4 games in sign-ups already and they aren't exactly filling quickly.
Post by: Bdthemag on September 27, 2011, 07:01:34 pm
When I GM im usually more serious about the game, but I appreciate your opinion regardless.Bluh, im dissapointed that Confusion Mafia isn't getting off the ground. I should probally just start with fucking stopping lurking.Fix'd that for you.
Post by: IronyOwl on September 27, 2011, 07:05:23 pm
Anyway, looking forward to it, whenever it starts.
When I GM im usually more serious about the game, but I appreciate your opinion regardless.Didn't you have a more experienced player take a look at it and approve the setup or something? Or was that just Max who's also co-modding?
Anyway, having a more recognizable seal of approval might help, since "mystery bastard game" can be kind of a tough sell. Vaguely remembering someone (either Max or web, I think?) looking at it and saying "oh wow that is neat, too bad I can't play now" is one of the main reasons I was willing to sign up for it.
Post by: Bdthemag on September 27, 2011, 07:09:18 pm
Max said it was a good idea, and he is also co-modding. Its probally not going to get off the ground unless 6 people join out of nowhere, its a shame really because I thought it would be a fun setup. If I end up abandoning it would anyone want to run the setup?When I GM im usually more serious about the game, but I appreciate your opinion regardless.Didn't you have a more experienced player take a look at it and approve the setup or something? Or was that just Max who's also co-modding?
Anyway, having a more recognizable seal of approval might help, since "mystery bastard game" can be kind of a tough sell. Vaguely remembering someone (either Max or web, I think?) looking at it and saying "oh wow that is neat, too bad I can't play now" is one of the main reasons I was willing to sign up for it.
Post by: Toaster on September 27, 2011, 09:43:30 pm
I think I know what I'm going to run next. Totem Mafia, an animal themed BYOR.
Probably won't start for a bit, though. We have 4 games in sign-ups already and they aren't exactly filling quickly.
Neat- I'll let you take a crack at a BYOR before I jump in with BYOP.
Assuming another game opening comes along, any other requests for a game? One BYOR at a time is enough.
Post by: Max White on September 27, 2011, 10:01:26 pm
Probably won't start for a bit, though. We have 4 games in sign-ups already and they aren't exactly filling quickly.Eh, nobody seems to care about either confusion or ochams. They will fade into obscurity, just like FROTV. Even vengeful is looking grim. I dare say your games are the only ones still able to really draw in a crowd, after how long the last roguelike needed a replace.
Shame, because I put in a quiet few hours work into mine.
Post by: Mephansteras on September 27, 2011, 10:05:30 pm
Post by: Max White on September 27, 2011, 10:10:16 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on September 27, 2011, 10:30:10 pm
Do you ever play Meph? Some epic old player who is like a freaking samurai, and could cut down all before him, so doesn't even bother because it would be too easy? Or are you the toymaker, who dedicates them self to perfecting their act for the good of others?
I used to play. I was pretty good, when I did play. But I enjoy running games more, especially since I don't always have time to devote to playing properly. And I'd rather not join a game if I can't devote sufficient time to it.
Post by: Dariush on September 28, 2011, 06:42:36 am
For what it's worth, I think those have gametype-related issues; I suspect a BYOR would fare much, much better, especially if it looked like it'd actually start soon.Considering that the last one died due to the lack of participation, I'd disagree with you.
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on September 28, 2011, 05:47:18 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on September 28, 2011, 05:55:59 pm
Totem Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=93940.0) is now in sign-ups.
Post by: Leafsnail on September 28, 2011, 05:57:25 pm
Totem Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=93940.0) is not in sign-ups.Man, I am so not signing up for this!
Post by: Max White on September 28, 2011, 05:58:14 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on September 28, 2011, 06:00:20 pm
Post by: Org on September 28, 2011, 11:03:47 pm
But I doubt that.
Post by: Jim Groovester on September 28, 2011, 11:49:51 pm
Post by: Vector on September 28, 2011, 11:50:50 pm
Post by: Toaster on September 29, 2011, 07:52:14 am
Post by: Max White on September 29, 2011, 07:58:34 am
Post by: Ottofar on September 29, 2011, 08:33:00 am
That's cool.
Post by: Bdthemag on September 29, 2011, 03:23:46 pm
Post by: Max White on September 29, 2011, 04:18:58 pm
I dare say your games are the only ones still able to really draw in a crowdCase and point.
Post by: Mephansteras on September 29, 2011, 04:30:09 pm
I dare say your games are the only ones still able to really draw in a crowdCase and point.
Well, I'm glad my games are giving this subforum at least a little bit of life. I do feel bad for all the games languishing around with no players, though.
I'm also hoping that this game doesn't have the rash of dropouts that Supernatural 4 did.
Post by: Max White on September 29, 2011, 04:45:34 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 29, 2011, 07:12:30 pm
Post by: Max White on October 02, 2011, 08:23:53 pm
Post by: Bdthemag on October 02, 2011, 08:25:24 pm
Somebody should make a BYOS mafia - Bring your own song.Yessssssssss.
Post by: Max White on October 02, 2011, 08:26:28 pm
Also, has anybody seen Wubba around? I hope he didn't take RM3 too personally and really has quit.
Post by: Think0028 on October 03, 2011, 01:50:56 am
Post by: Max White on October 03, 2011, 01:52:14 am
Post by: Jim Groovester on October 03, 2011, 02:14:56 am
I vaguely remember one Paranormal where after the game was over, he essentially said "Fuck Y'all," and said he was going to leave. I don't know how long that lasted, but apparently it wasn't forever.
Point is, whatever he said, don't worry about it too much.
Post by: Pandarsenic on October 03, 2011, 05:27:09 am
Post by: Mr.Person on October 03, 2011, 03:50:01 pm
Great, I'll start sign ups the second you start being active in games you are currently playing.
Also, has anybody seen Wubba around? I hope he didn't take RM3 too personally and really has quit.
That was all an act you doofus, that's why I was so sure he was in fact a cult member.
Post by: Max White on October 03, 2011, 05:11:16 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on October 03, 2011, 05:14:40 pm
Post by: Max White on October 03, 2011, 05:20:45 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on October 03, 2011, 05:25:50 pm
Post by: Max White on October 03, 2011, 05:26:55 pm
FUCKING SPELL CHECKER!
I mean yes, I can punch people through the internet!
Post by: NativeForeigner on October 03, 2011, 08:35:38 pm
I'm not sure what would constitute physiological play (unless you know how to punch people through the internet) but I agree that insults and intimidation can be a part of the game. I'd just want to verify though that a) it stays in the game and b) that people aren't actually being seriously offended by what I'm saying.
I think a post-game PM would be better suited for that if you feel like they might be taking it personally. Like Max said, with a safety word you would run the risk of someone abusing it when they feel themselves starting to crack.
Post by: Toaster on October 04, 2011, 10:18:08 am
Post by: Dariush on October 06, 2011, 09:28:26 am
Quote
Safety word in mafiaYou guys are mad. Mad, I tell you! MAAAD!!!! MUAHAHAHA!!!!!
Ahem.
Seriously, what the fuck. I doubt any of us are underage children who go into depression every time they are called a dick on the forums. If I got mortally offended every time Vector called me an asshole, I'd... uh... be mortally offended pretty often. Yeah, that's about right.
Post by: Leafsnail on October 06, 2011, 11:02:39 am
Post by: ToonyMan on October 06, 2011, 11:04:37 am
Post by: Diakron on October 06, 2011, 12:47:46 pm
Post by: Vector on October 06, 2011, 01:14:09 pm
wait... What happened to Webadict?
He is gone right now D:
Post by: NativeForeigner on October 06, 2011, 09:35:48 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on October 08, 2011, 03:06:33 am
QuoteSafety word in mafiaYou guys are mad. Mad, I tell you! MAAAD!!!! MUAHAHAHA!!!!!
Ahem.
Seriously, what the fuck. I doubt any of us are underage children who go into depression every time they are called a dick on the forums. If I got mortally offended every time Vector called me an asshole, I'd... uh... be mortally offended pretty often. Yeah, that's about right.
And if Dariush can withstand all the shit he gets thrown at him every single game, the rest of you lot have no excuse whatsoever.
Chumps and chumpette, the lot of you!
Post by: Vector on October 08, 2011, 11:33:24 am
Post by: Dariush on October 08, 2011, 11:54:18 am
If Dariusz threw less shit, Dariusz would get less shit >:(You're so adorable when you are butthurting. ^_^
Post by: Vector on October 08, 2011, 11:58:50 am
If Dariusz threw less shit, Dariusz would get less shit >:(You're so adorable when you are butthurting. ^_^
No, actually, I'm asking you to cool it a bit. My ass is fine, but I feel that the way you attack in games is detrimental to the subforum as a whole at this point.
Post by: Solifuge on October 08, 2011, 02:25:54 pm
I've been in games where attacks have gone well past sportsmanlike, and into the realm of personal attacks. Of course, afterward everyone claims they were just getting into the spirit of things... but you can't shake the Devil's hand, and then say you were only kidding.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on October 08, 2011, 02:44:45 pm
Being pitted against eachother in a Mafia game is not an excuse to be abusive.Or sign your name in blood on the dotted line, for that matter.
I've been in games where attacks have gone well past sportsmanlike, and into the realm of personal attacks. Of course, afterward everyone claims they were just getting into the spirit of things... but you can't shake the Devil's hand, and then say you were only kidding.
Post by: Vector on October 08, 2011, 02:57:35 pm
Everyone should feel free to PM me in the future if you think I'm getting out of hand. I ask that this service not be abused.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on October 08, 2011, 07:57:21 pm
I don't know if I've gone over the line, but if I have, I apologize. I don't mean to be hurtful to the person playing the game.
Everyone should feel free to PM me in the future if you think I'm getting out of hand. I ask that this service not be abused.
I think this should be standard practice. Someone hurts your feelings in the game (or anywhere, really), talk to them about it.
Post by: Mr.Person on October 10, 2011, 05:37:05 pm
Post by: Max White on October 11, 2011, 03:19:39 am
So there is a townie role that must survive until end game. If that townie is killed scum win. But all other townies are informed of the identity of that player, so there is no chance that they will be lynched. So while the town are trying to figure out who the scum are, the scum also have to try and read who Spartacus is, meaning that town get all the fun or trying to hide the identity of an ally.
Post by: ECrownofFire on October 11, 2011, 03:35:42 am
Just had an idea for a mafia game. Spartacus mafia! Because everybody is freaking Spartacus.Sounds familiar...
So there is a townie role that must survive until end game. If that townie is killed scum win. But all other townies are informed of the identity of that player, so there is no chance that they will be lynched. So while the town are trying to figure out who the scum are, the scum also have to try and read who Spartacus is, meaning that town get all the fun or trying to hide the identity of an ally.
Damn, what's it called? Assassin or something. It's on Xylbot anyway. If I'm remembering this all correctly, townies get a vengekill when they get lynched (to try to shoot mafia, obviously), and the mafia get a NK as normal. When the King dies, Town loses. It's usually a fast format.
Post by: Max White on October 11, 2011, 03:39:05 am
Post by: ECrownofFire on October 11, 2011, 03:39:56 am
What happens if a townie vengekills a townie?Game goes on as normal, but you're out 2 townies (3 including NK). IIRC the townie to mafia ratio is usually higher than normal games.
Post by: IronyOwl on October 11, 2011, 05:46:38 am
Just had an idea for a mafia game. Spartacus mafia! Because everybody is freaking Spartacus.Sounds interesting, but probably too random to be a good gametype. All it takes is one lucky NK and the game ends instantly with no chance of recovery or prevention.
So there is a townie role that must survive until end game. If that townie is killed scum win. But all other townies are informed of the identity of that player, so there is no chance that they will be lynched. So while the town are trying to figure out who the scum are, the scum also have to try and read who Spartacus is, meaning that town get all the fun or trying to hide the identity of an ally.
A setup that includes a doctor or two might be feasible, though. Or maybe just make it smaller, or something.
Also, you might get some issues when, say, scum votes the Spartacus, but I would think that'd mostly be counteracted by WIFOM, since anything Town does to openly acknowledge the Spartacus clues in scum as well. Having a scummy Spartacus that everyone refuses to lynch regardless would probably be a bigger issue, but that sort of thing probably comes up often enough in regular games that it wouldn't really be a problem.
Post by: Max White on October 11, 2011, 06:06:30 am
Anyway, I was thinking throw in a confirmed doc and cop. The cop can't do that thing where he claims on d1 and the doc always protects him and everybody no lynches until the cop reads scum, because then the doc isn't protecting Spartacus, and the town is risking instagib.
Then if the cop does claim, it is WIFOM ahoy for who to NK, because he could be protecting Spartacus or the cop.
So all in all would be interesting.
Post by: Max White on October 11, 2011, 06:37:46 am
Post by: Ottofar on October 11, 2011, 07:01:07 am
Just had an idea for a mafia game. Spartacus mafia! Because everybody is freaking Spartacus.Sounds familiar...
So there is a townie role that must survive until end game. If that townie is killed scum win. But all other townies are informed of the identity of that player, so there is no chance that they will be lynched. So while the town are trying to figure out who the scum are, the scum also have to try and read who Spartacus is, meaning that town get all the fun or trying to hide the identity of an ally.
Damn, what's it called? Assassin or something. It's on Xylbot anyway. If I'm remembering this all correctly, townies get a vengekill when they get lynched (to try to shoot mafia, obviously), and the mafia get a NK as normal. When the King dies, Town loses. It's usually a fast format.
Nah. One of the players is the king, one is the assassin, who gets a suicidebomb, which ca be used before or after death. The rest are guards. They lynch and lynch until they hit the assassin. I've always hated it.
(http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Assassin_in_the_Palace)
And webadict got lynched as a king somewhen.
But yeah.
Also,
Is quick topic down for everybody?
Nope.
Post by: Max White on October 11, 2011, 07:09:52 am
Post by: Leafsnail on October 11, 2011, 01:55:47 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on October 11, 2011, 05:07:22 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on October 11, 2011, 06:11:31 pm
Post by: ECrownofFire on October 11, 2011, 06:55:18 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on October 13, 2011, 02:57:16 am
Post by: lordnincompoop on October 15, 2011, 12:20:48 pm
Though my original intentions were to host a second round of Witches' Coven (now polished and refreshed for your benefit) in anticipation for Halloween, the want for a do-over may not be high so soon after the first, so I've decided to bow to popular demand instead.
I can host Witches Coven II, Vainglorious Bastards (in short, a game about royalty where betrayal is encouraged), or a Mountainous/Near-Mountainous game.
Thoughts?
Post by: Dariush on October 15, 2011, 12:44:19 pm
Post by: TolyK on October 15, 2011, 01:52:03 pm
Second one. Though anything done by you would be awesome. :)*nods*
Post by: Think0028 on October 15, 2011, 03:25:43 pm
Post by: Zrk2 on October 15, 2011, 03:36:08 pm
Either witches or bastards would be awesome.
This is hilarious out of context. Also, I'm currently plotting a game of my own to run some time in the distant future. Assholery ahoy!
Post by: ECrownofFire on October 15, 2011, 05:53:39 pm
Taken to the OOC thread.Either witches or bastards would be awesome.
This is hilarious out of context. Also, I'm currently plotting a game of my own to run some time in the distant future. Assholery ahoy!
And yeah, that second one sounds great.
Post by: Max White on October 15, 2011, 05:56:28 pm
I can host Witches Coven II, Vainglorious Bastards (in short, a game about royalty where betrayal is encouraged), or a Mountainous/Near-Mountainous game.So we have a choice or 5 deaths per night, none of them from the mafia, a game where everybody is scum, or... WTF is that last one again?
But seriously, all sound good, assuming the last one is any good. Are you allowed to explain some of the set up of VB or is it all under wraps?
Post by: ECrownofFire on October 15, 2011, 05:59:23 pm
Mountainous means pure-vanilla roles. Near-mountainous includes a couple of power roles. I think BM qualifies as near-mountainous.I can host Witches Coven II, Vainglorious Bastards (in short, a game about royalty where betrayal is encouraged), or a Mountainous/Near-Mountainous game.So we have a choice or 5 deaths per night, none of them from the mafia, a game where everybody is scum, or... WTF is that last one again?
But seriously, all sound good, assuming the last one is any good. Are you allowed to explain some of the set up of VB or is it all under wraps?
Post by: Max White on October 15, 2011, 06:01:28 pm
Post by: TolyK on October 16, 2011, 11:21:27 am
When i get more free time would anyone be interested in a puzzle-like mafia game? (several ways for both sides to win, one way for everyone to win (:D), demi-rougelike... exact setup will be wuba-approved)
Post by: Misho on October 18, 2011, 02:27:55 am
Post by: Dariush on October 18, 2011, 03:06:20 am
If it's possible can someone start the signups to the next BM sometime soon? We had around six people (that posted) who missed out on the last one as signups were full after about 2 hours.There're lots of first-timers in that BM, so there should be at least several replacements. I would advice to wait at least several days before starting the next one.
Post by: Vector on October 18, 2011, 03:09:01 am
Post by: Jim Groovester on October 18, 2011, 03:30:44 am
I'd rather see it that the players who stick it through get rewarded by having games that keep moving through plentiful replacements.
Post by: Vector on October 18, 2011, 03:32:32 am
Post by: IronyOwl on October 18, 2011, 04:12:04 am
Post by: Toaster on October 18, 2011, 08:00:25 am
Post by: lordnincompoop on October 20, 2011, 02:19:01 pm
I do, however, have a complete setup for this one, so that will be interesting to see.
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on October 21, 2011, 06:06:21 pm
HOMESTUCK MAFIA IS IN THE MAKINGS, AWAITING BALANCING.
Did this ever actually happen or did it end up in Mafia Purgatory?
Post by: Max White on October 21, 2011, 08:51:01 pm
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on October 21, 2011, 08:53:47 pm
EDIT: Actually, you're talking about the one in the Notable Games Archive, right?
Post by: Max White on October 21, 2011, 08:56:38 pm
Although hmm, this one was hosted by some ancient going by the name of 'Neruz', seems he isn't with us any more, but made horribly unbalanced games. Org was lynched for forgetting to use he's power though, that was pretty funny.
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on October 21, 2011, 09:04:12 pm
Hmmm... I wonder what sort of Homestuck games could be done.
Post by: Mephansteras on October 23, 2011, 11:43:47 am
Post by: Dariush on October 25, 2011, 06:47:33 am
Oh wait... I'm already playing. Fuck.
Post by: Bdthemag on October 25, 2011, 12:38:39 pm
Post by: NativeForeigner on October 25, 2011, 05:39:12 pm
I don't suppose someone wants to replace into Totem Mafia, do they?
I suppose I could.
Post by: Mephansteras on October 25, 2011, 05:40:04 pm
I don't suppose someone wants to replace into Totem Mafia, do they?
I suppose I could.
Cool, thanks! I'll send you the Role PM.
Post by: Vector on November 03, 2011, 12:42:56 pm
Post by: Think0028 on November 03, 2011, 12:47:29 pm
Post by: Vector on November 03, 2011, 12:48:46 pm
Also, I miss Pandar.
Post by: Mr.Person on November 04, 2011, 05:56:19 pm
I remember seeing an interesting role somewhere, basically they would make mafia meetings anonymous and they would be able to see it. They'd be able to vote who they wanted to kill that night same as the other mafia members, that person only wins if the Mafia wins. But if the mafia wins with this role still alive, they don't win.
Stealing things from EpicMafia is a dangerous road to go down.
Post by: Leafsnail on November 04, 2011, 06:08:54 pm
Post by: ECrownofFire on November 04, 2011, 06:15:43 pm
But who wouldn't love a role that randomly changes alignments every 2 nights and has 2 votes?Sounds more like a role for a semi-bastard than anything else.
Post by: Leafsnail on November 04, 2011, 09:05:42 pm
Post by: Heliman on November 05, 2011, 12:13:23 am
Also, Org is back? And Pandar is gone?
Spoiler: Penguin swap? (click to show/hide)
Post by: Jim Groovester on November 05, 2011, 02:58:50 am
Post by: Powder Miner on November 07, 2011, 08:15:25 pm
Post by: Toaster on November 07, 2011, 08:35:25 pm
Post by: Powder Miner on November 08, 2011, 07:01:34 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on November 09, 2011, 02:57:43 am
Ockham's mafia. I already sent him PMs about it to no avail, so now I'm talking about it here.
Also, I miss Pandar.
I miss you, too. :<
On the other hand, I'm much less busy now than I have been.
Dropping 3 classes out of 5 will do that.
Maybe I'll run a NSBM or something.
Post by: Vector on November 09, 2011, 03:15:34 am
Are you okay?
Post by: Pandarsenic on November 09, 2011, 03:47:05 am
On the other hand, I registered with my school's disabled student program because my insomnia (also my OCD but mostly my insomnia) cripples my ability to do some stuff and ruined my ability to keep up in the classes I dropped. I can't really remember the last time this quarter that I "Fell asleep" instead of "Passed out from exhaustion."
So, uh, good question.
Post by: Dariush on November 09, 2011, 08:07:15 am
On one hand, even doing that I'm still easily going to graduate in 4 years with a Phil Major (also known as "a joke") and an Asian American Studies Minor. Possibly also another minor, but that's it's own thing if it happens. I'm also only going to need to do 3 classes each quarter from here out.Okay, that's... actually pretty creepy.
On the other hand, I registered with my school's disabled student program because my insomnia (also my OCD but mostly my insomnia) cripples my ability to do some stuff and ruined my ability to keep up in the classes I dropped. I can't really remember the last time this quarter that I "Fell asleep" instead of "Passed out from exhaustion."
So, uh, good question.
Post by: Pandarsenic on November 09, 2011, 03:15:10 pm
Post by: Shakerag on November 09, 2011, 04:08:20 pm
Insomnia is not fun.
Neither is narcolepsy. -_-
Post by: Mr.Person on November 09, 2011, 05:25:18 pm
Weirdos.
Post by: ECrownofFire on November 09, 2011, 08:48:01 pm
Try sleeping like a normal person. You know, at night? For 7 to 8 hours?You know, sleeping in two main chunks used to be "normal". Sleep for 4 hours, 1 hour in between, 4 hour sleep again.
Weirdos.
Post by: NativeForeigner on November 09, 2011, 09:25:15 pm
On the other hand, I registered with my school's disabled student program because my insomnia (also my OCD but mostly my insomnia) cripples my ability to do some stuff and ruined my ability to keep up in the classes I dropped.
Both of those make you qualified for that? I should check that out...
Post by: Mr.Person on November 10, 2011, 04:13:01 am
Try sleeping like a normal person. You know, at night? For 7 to 8 hours?You know, sleeping in two main chunks used to be "normal". Sleep for 4 hours, 1 hour in between, 4 hour sleep again.
Weirdos.
I know a number of people sleep this way on a semi-regular basis, yes, but that does not mean it's a "normal" sleep cycle pattern. I guess now we're getting into the differences between regular, normal, and standard though, and of course we're also way off topic.
Post by: Ottofar on November 10, 2011, 05:52:25 am
Post by: NativeForeigner on November 10, 2011, 01:24:56 pm
I know a number of people sleep this way on a semi-regular basis, yes, but that does not mean it's a "normal" sleep cycle pattern. I guess now we're getting into the differences between regular, normal, and standard though, and of course we're also way off topic.
ECrown is trying to say that this USED to be the norm. Sleeping eight hours straight is a relatively new habit.
Post by: Vector on November 10, 2011, 02:04:21 pm
It's a damped oscillation function, I guess... ? The end parts are when I'm dreaming about math, which really fucks with my ability to sleep at all because my brain goes "Ooh idea idea" and wakes itself up, and then goes "why the fuck am I awake, there isn't any math out here! Time to go back to sleep."
Feel better soon, Pandar :I
Post by: Toaster on November 10, 2011, 02:06:23 pm
I'm not sure what to make of the idea.
Post by: Pandarsenic on November 10, 2011, 04:13:33 pm
I just stay awake for like 18.
Post by: NativeForeigner on November 10, 2011, 04:28:00 pm
Post by: Andrew425 on November 10, 2011, 04:44:25 pm
It sucks.
My record for the longest sleep was 19 hours, when I fell asleep at 1am and missed my 5pm class.
What are your records?
Post by: Vector on November 10, 2011, 04:46:01 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on November 10, 2011, 04:50:01 pm
Post by: lordnincompoop on November 10, 2011, 08:15:42 pm
Ok, folks, go start a Sleep habits thread or something. Obviously it's an interesting topic, but this isn't the place for it.
Agreed.
I want to see Heliman's FROTV game get running sometime. It was damn interesting, and it's a shame it "died".
Post by: Andrew425 on November 10, 2011, 08:31:20 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on November 10, 2011, 08:33:35 pm
How common are In character Mafia games and are their any being planned right now?
They're rare, although we have done some in the past. I don't think any are currently planned, however.
Post by: Andrew425 on November 11, 2011, 12:52:16 am
The idea is that it is a vanilla game except all the town has a tell. Like one person has to use the word misguided at least twice a turn. Another person every 2nd post has to comment on if he was scum how he would do things differently.
I think it would be fun because all the town would be searching for the tells of the other town, while the mafia attempts to blend in and make a tell of their own which the town would then try to trick them into saying it.
Does it sound fun to you guys?
Post by: Mr.Person on November 11, 2011, 01:39:22 am
Post by: Dariush on November 11, 2011, 09:24:56 am
Post by: Toaster on November 11, 2011, 09:59:03 am
If another one ran, I'd suggest making it flavor heavy (a la WC and OM) and making everyone's name (or alias) and (alleged) profession public information, thus giving the flavor claims a head start.
Any sort of post restriction seems to be fairly unpopular here. I had tossed around an idea of a "post powered*" game, but it saw little support.
*Your posts (and the posts of others) influenced the use of you roles. You weren't forced to post/not post anything, but certain things you and others said controlled how your role was used. Examples- a kill that could only target the person you quoted the most, or a block that could only be used against someone that said your name three times in a post.
Post by: TolyK on November 11, 2011, 11:36:47 am
or a "door mafia"
Post by: Dariush on November 11, 2011, 12:01:28 pm
"door mafia"Whuh?
Post by: NativeForeigner on November 11, 2011, 12:03:31 pm
Any sort of post restriction seems to be fairly unpopular here. I had tossed around an idea of a "post powered*" game, but it saw little support.
*Your posts (and the posts of others) influenced the use of you roles. You weren't forced to post/not post anything, but certain things you and others said controlled how your role was used. Examples- a kill that could only target the person you quoted the most, or a block that could only be used against someone that said your name three times in a post.
I like the idea of a "post powered" game. It sounds interesting.
Post by: Toaster on November 11, 2011, 12:17:12 pm
Post by: TolyK on November 11, 2011, 12:20:59 pm
"door mafia"Whuh?
whups, i had this in my mind for a while but forgot...
number of players: 8*
number of mafiosi: 4*
number of doors: 9*
*should be balanced better :P
every day, folks can vote to:
a. send xxx to check door yy
b. lynch xxx
c. do nothing
if a, xxx is goes into door yy at night. he will either be killed, or he will gain an item.
mafia can chat freely, and they know which door contains the kill item.
if xxx dies, they die, and everyone knows.
if xxx gets an item, everyone is told, but the item is unknown.
basically it.
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on November 11, 2011, 12:28:18 pm
Hmm... if there's interest, I can run it after BYOP.
I would be interested in that too.
Post by: Dariush on November 11, 2011, 12:56:45 pm
Post by: TolyK on November 11, 2011, 12:58:29 pm
Post by: Vector on November 14, 2011, 01:32:09 am
Well done, guys!
Post by: Orangebottle on November 14, 2011, 03:25:29 am
DAMNIT MAX WHERE DID YOU GO!?
Post by: Orangebottle on November 15, 2011, 02:31:58 pm
3-role Mafia.
Basically, the 'mafia' would start as one person with three roles. If he gets lynched, one of the roles is removed and the original mafia is kicked from the game. Another player(chosen at random) has his role replaced with those two roles.
Post by: TolyK on November 15, 2011, 02:41:24 pm
But i want feedback on Door Mafia :D
Post by: Mephansteras on November 15, 2011, 02:43:26 pm
Post by: Orangebottle on November 15, 2011, 02:44:37 pm
Post by: TolyK on November 15, 2011, 02:45:15 pm
Oops. :C...
same.
Post by: Mephansteras on November 15, 2011, 02:54:22 pm
Post by: Toaster on November 20, 2011, 03:04:20 pm
Post by: Powder Miner on November 20, 2011, 04:00:37 pm
Post by: Dariush on November 21, 2011, 07:20:09 am
And while I'm here - where the fuck did LNCP and Max disappear? What shall we do about WC2 and OM?
Post by: Darvi on November 21, 2011, 08:14:55 am
And while I'm here - where the fuck did LNCP and Max disappear? What shall we do about WC2 and OM?Those cases appear to be related.
Post by: Toaster on November 21, 2011, 08:52:34 am
Post by: Dariush on November 21, 2011, 08:55:33 am
Dariush- You'll have to counterbalance that with everyone wanting to be a vig or third party.Actually, in case of a shitton of vigs I can simply make a lot of NK immunities or RBs. And if everyone goes 3p... it would interesting to see. :D
As an alternate choice, you could send everyone three rolesets and have them pick their favorite. (Probably hell to balance, but it'd be interesting.)Actually, in that case I'll have to balance every single possible combination of those rolesets, which is pretty much impossible.
Post by: Darvi on November 21, 2011, 08:56:44 am
Post by: Dariush on November 21, 2011, 09:00:55 am
Actually, in case of a shitton of vigs I can simply make a lot of NK immunities or RBs or PWVs or something else. Doesn't matter right now.Fix'd.
Post by: Mephansteras on November 21, 2011, 10:56:35 am
Post by: Toaster on November 21, 2011, 10:57:40 am
Post by: Dariush on November 21, 2011, 11:02:10 am
Post by: Mysteriousbluepuppet on November 21, 2011, 11:19:28 am
Post by: Dariush on November 21, 2011, 11:46:27 am
Post by: Darvi on November 21, 2011, 01:18:50 pm
Post by: Dariush on November 21, 2011, 01:22:33 pm
I am almost completely finished with the roles for B12MafiaII. Had to dump Flandre's role though since she doesn't appear to play any more. What a shame, since I liked the skills I gave her. Ah well.She's played in what, three games? Admit it, you only planned on including her due to the source of her nickname. :P
Post by: Darvi on November 21, 2011, 01:23:38 pm
I still like the skills though.
Post by: Dariush on November 21, 2011, 01:28:27 pm
I still like the skills though.How many of them are Touhou shout-outs, in percents?
Post by: Darvi on November 21, 2011, 01:30:24 pm
Post by: Darvi on November 21, 2011, 02:03:53 pm
Now some fluff. Maybe.
Post by: Ottofar on November 21, 2011, 02:42:22 pm
Post by: Toaster on November 21, 2011, 02:54:14 pm
Post by: Orangebottle on December 01, 2011, 03:20:44 am
Welp got all the roles done. The phrasing could be greatly improved on, but at least I have something usable here.Need some help with that?
Also, would any of you join a standard setup game if I made one?
Post by: Jim Groovester on December 01, 2011, 03:25:19 am
Post by: Orangebottle on December 01, 2011, 03:27:33 am
You say standard? I can go for standard, especially since there aren't many games in signups right now.
EDIT:Yes. Standard.
I should have a thread up by, say, 4:00 PM PST tomorrow.
Post by: Darvi on December 01, 2011, 03:28:44 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 01, 2011, 05:00:17 am
Post by: Toaster on December 01, 2011, 10:49:21 am
Post by: Orangebottle on December 01, 2011, 11:01:38 am
If standard you mean something in the style of NSBM or NMM, fuck yes right the hell in. I have no idea as to your identity but I lurvs role-light games.Like Wild West Mafia was.
Post by: Mephansteras on December 01, 2011, 11:02:51 am
Post by: Toaster on December 01, 2011, 11:19:41 am
Post by: Dariush on December 01, 2011, 12:15:55 pm
Do people want me to start up a new Paranormal soon as well?A bastard one? If no, in. If yes, FUCK IN!
Post by: Mephansteras on December 01, 2011, 12:47:43 pm
Do people want me to start up a new Paranormal soon as well?A bastard one? If no, in. If yes, FUCK IN!
Probably not a bastard one. I do want to do one of those again at some point, but I don't have any great ideas for it right now and my creative energies are going other places.
I'll probably open up sign-ups later this afternoon.
Post by: Orangebottle on December 01, 2011, 06:56:50 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on December 03, 2011, 11:59:04 am
Post by: webadict on December 10, 2011, 04:10:43 pm
Post by: Darvi on December 10, 2011, 04:12:17 pm
Post by: NUKE9.13 on December 10, 2011, 04:23:51 pm
Anyone interested in playing KWN:WE?Webadict, much as we love you... we just love killing you more.
Actually, while we're at it, same question for the second Bay12 Mafia.Wasn't it the third?
Anyway in a more serious response to both questions: Yes, but I feel inclined to ask for more stringent policies to deal with folks dropping out/lurking indefinitely. Currently folks can drop out of a game and no one bats an eye, as if this is an ordinary and acceptable course of action. People lurking is so commonplace that people don't even consider it worth mentioning; apparently it is even a scumtell to go after lurkers.
Post by: Think0028 on December 10, 2011, 04:25:34 pm
Post by: Darvi on December 10, 2011, 04:35:59 pm
Wasn't it the third?I dunno if there was a second one already.
Post by: TolyK on December 10, 2011, 04:37:24 pm
Anyone interested in playing KWN:WE?Yes.
I'd even program less to play. :P
Post by: webadict on December 10, 2011, 04:50:38 pm
This idea is much, much better.
P.S. It's Bay 12 Mafia 3.
Post by: Darvi on December 10, 2011, 05:14:32 pm
Post by: webadict on December 10, 2011, 05:25:42 pm
Aw no I wanted to be a spoilspec :VNo spoilspec.
Play only.
Final destination.
Post by: webadict on December 10, 2011, 05:50:06 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on December 10, 2011, 08:10:04 pm
If one game waited a week or two I would probably sign up for both.
Post by: webadict on December 10, 2011, 08:32:39 pm
Post by: Toaster on December 10, 2011, 08:38:35 pm
I'd be up for one or the other but not both at the same time.
If one game waited a week or two I would probably sign up for both.
Agreed.
Also, I'll be any role you give me.
Post by: TolyK on December 11, 2011, 02:13:54 am
:P
Post by: Darvi on December 11, 2011, 04:03:16 am
I feel like I should start mine sooner, while I'm on winter break. I hope you don't mind, Darvi.Nope.
Post by: Shakerag on January 05, 2012, 01:24:02 pm
It seems like, to me, that every game I've been in so far (3 out of 3) and many that I'm reading/have read need or have needed replacements for one or more positions. I believe I even saw one where the mod essentially had to be replaced. Does anyone feel that reviving the old Mafia attendance thread (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=68874.0) would be worthwhile? That, maybe, if attendance statistics were being more actively monitored people would be either less likely to flake out of a game and/or more carefully consider thier situation before joining one or more games?
I'm curious to hear thoughts on this matter.
Post by: Ottofar on January 05, 2012, 02:19:02 pm
It takes some effort to keep one up to date.
But yeah, I'd support it assuming someone's up to the task.
Post by: Vector on January 05, 2012, 02:23:57 pm
Even Wuba is MIA, though...
I imagine that things will get a lot more active here after some of the main participants manage to leave college.
Post by: Mephansteras on January 05, 2012, 02:29:46 pm
Post by: Darvi on January 05, 2012, 02:32:00 pm
Post by: Think0028 on January 05, 2012, 05:21:24 pm
Post by: Darvi on January 05, 2012, 05:23:54 pm
Post by: Think0028 on January 05, 2012, 05:27:55 pm
Post by: Toaster on January 05, 2012, 09:10:41 pm
Post by: Think0028 on January 05, 2012, 10:21:48 pm
Post by: Dariush on January 06, 2012, 04:08:23 am
Post by: lordnincompoop on January 06, 2012, 05:57:48 am
How are you going to do it? It's not like every mod actually specifies which person needs replacement, let alone in any standartized way...
You can always push for standardisation should the current methods be too varied.
There are relatively few mods here to run games, so it wouldn't be all that hard.
Post by: Toaster on January 06, 2012, 08:46:17 am
Post by: lordnincompoop on January 06, 2012, 08:52:33 am
Do we need standardization? Prods are prods, force replaces are force replaces. There are so few issues with rulebreaking besides those that I don't think there's an issue.
Standardised as in "standardised syntax", in this case pertaining to replaces. I can name six ways off the top of my head that mods have used to write replaces (such as "Peter Gibbons needs a replacement"), and it'd simplify writing an automated attendance tracker a fair bit by asking mods to write replace notices just one way.
Post by: Toaster on January 06, 2012, 08:56:28 am
Something like:
{Replacement for UristMcFlaker}
Using {} would make the false positive rate pretty much nil.
Post by: lordnincompoop on January 06, 2012, 09:03:54 am
Reading comprehension is key!
Something like:
{Replacement for UristMcFlaker}
Using {} would make the false positive rate pretty much nil.
That's already some of the way there in terms of standardisation. Glad you agree with me. :V
It doesn't mean it will pick up on everything, though, let alone understand what it's reading.
For example, here's a few examples for X replacing Y using your proposed curlies syntax:
{X has replaced Y.}
{X is now Y.}
{Y has been replaced by X}
{Y replaced by X}
{X replaced Y.}
{X has graciously offered to fill in for the recent vacancy, so let's give him a hand, people! He'll be taking Y's spot, so just pretend he's Y now.}
Maybe there'll be fewer false positives, but false negatives have to be accounted for as well.
Post by: Dariush on January 06, 2012, 09:51:57 am
Post by: Shakerag on January 06, 2012, 09:55:32 am
Post by: Dariush on January 06, 2012, 11:56:19 am
Maybe instead of trying to come up with a way to scan game threads, we use part of the old attendance thread idea. Like, at the top of the thread post a template that a mod can just copy/paste into a reply in an attendance thread. So when a game has completed, the mod just goes to the attendance thread, copies the standard form, fills in the names, and your script can process the thread every so often for new entries. So that way we don't have to try and get everyone to use a certain format in the individual game threads.Except nobody will care, which was precisely the reason the current thread died out.
Post by: Think0028 on January 06, 2012, 02:54:28 pm
1) Regulated syntax for declaring replacements that everyone uses.
2) Someone (me) manually goes through all the current threads and updates the scores himself.
On one hand, I'm in favor of things that don't require people to be particularly strict about what they post, as we're in a forum, not something more regulated like games run by a bot. That said, I also want to minimize how much effort is needed on my part, to prevent me from burning out and shirking my responsibilities.
Post by: lordnincompoop on January 06, 2012, 02:59:54 pm
There are two approaches that will work, from my perspective:
1) Regulated syntax for declaring replacements that everyone uses.
2) Someone (me) manually goes through all the current threads and updates the scores himself.
On one hand, I'm in favor of things that don't require people to be particularly strict about what they post, as we're in a forum, not something more regulated like games run by a bot. That said, I also want to minimize how much effort is needed on my part, to prevent me from burning out and shirking my responsibilities.
Manual updating is tedious and time-consuming. If you want to spend you time doing that, then so be it, but I highly advise you to consider the first option. :p
Post by: Dariush on January 06, 2012, 03:03:26 pm
Post by: Think0028 on January 06, 2012, 03:18:03 pm
Post by: Vector on January 06, 2012, 03:20:29 pm
Post by: Shakerag on January 06, 2012, 03:24:49 pm
Okay, seriously--what happened to Wubba? It looks very much like KWN is dead.
>_>
And Paranormal 20...
And, if we wanted to be techincal, the next beginner's could stand to be hammered out, too.
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on January 06, 2012, 03:28:57 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on January 06, 2012, 03:34:10 pm
Post by: Toaster on January 06, 2012, 03:35:15 pm
Okay, seriously--what happened to Wubba? It looks very much like KWN is dead.
I PMed him and told him that BM XXX was up (he having called it long ago.) He said he had very little time, of which he's not even updating KWN with it.
We should all PM him with sad faces until he updates.
Post by: Ottofar on January 06, 2012, 03:38:02 pm
We should all PM him with sad faces until he updates.
I'm totally up for this.
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on January 06, 2012, 03:38:51 pm
Post by: Toaster on January 06, 2012, 03:42:05 pm
Post by: Shakerag on January 06, 2012, 04:02:49 pm
Okay, seriously--what happened to Wubba? It looks very much like KWN is dead.
I PMed him and told him that BM XXX was up (he having called it long ago.) He said he had very little time, of which he's not even updating KWN with it.
We should all PM him with sad faces until he updates.
I thought I remembered reading he had wanted to do that particular BM. I am both curious and potentially horrified as to what will happen.
Post by: Dariush on January 07, 2012, 05:27:19 am
BM XXXGoddammit I should have thought about (and dib'd) it earlier. Fuck Wuba and his ninjaing.
Post by: Ottofar on January 07, 2012, 05:29:41 am
Post by: webadict on January 08, 2012, 05:01:28 pm
Miss me much? I'll finally have a regular schedule this coming week. We'll see how I do after that.
Post by: Jim Groovester on January 08, 2012, 07:22:48 pm
Post by: Orangebottle on January 08, 2012, 07:24:20 pm
Post by: Darvi on January 09, 2012, 08:18:45 am
Post by: webadict on January 09, 2012, 08:47:39 am
You can still call Beginner's Mafia 10,020.BM XXXGoddammit I should have thought about (and dib'd) it earlier. Fuck Wuba and his ninjaing.
Post by: Darvi on January 09, 2012, 08:48:29 am
Post by: Think0028 on January 09, 2012, 04:34:48 pm
Post by: Toaster on January 10, 2012, 04:54:41 pm
I sort of want to try Bad Dudes again, but I need 13 people for that one. I couldn't get that last time.
Post by: Mephansteras on January 10, 2012, 05:19:49 pm
Any other changes I need to make to the lists? I'm thinking the ones still listed as in Sign-ups are dead at this point.
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on January 10, 2012, 05:26:04 pm
Bring Your Own Picture is done. Any requests for another game?There was a suggestion for a Bring Somebody Else's Role that was put off until after BYOP. Maybe that?
Post by: Darvi on January 10, 2012, 05:29:33 pm
Heck, let's just combine them into "Make Somebody Elses Role"
Post by: Orangebottle on January 10, 2012, 06:48:21 pm
Post by: Toaster on January 10, 2012, 09:15:04 pm
Post by: Think0028 on January 10, 2012, 09:25:03 pm
Post by: Darvi on January 10, 2012, 09:26:17 pm
Bring Somebody Else's Role
Post by: Leafsnail on January 10, 2012, 09:27:16 pm
Post by: Think0028 on January 10, 2012, 09:29:11 pm
One question though: would people prefer choosing the role or having them randomly assigned?
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on January 10, 2012, 09:32:09 pm
Post by: Darvi on January 10, 2012, 09:40:27 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on January 10, 2012, 09:46:44 pm
EDIT: Actually maybe 2 town roles each, otherwise mafia could be screwed by being left with a falseclaim that has an obvious action which they can't perform.
Post by: Toaster on January 10, 2012, 09:50:24 pm
Post by: Think0028 on January 10, 2012, 09:51:51 pm
Post by: webadict on January 10, 2012, 09:52:18 pm
In Org's game, it was just like a normal BYOR- you submit the idea and the mod makes the role. You could always submit some sort of classification with the role to narrow it down but not rigidly define it. (Something like Protective, Investigative, Killing, etc)Simply put:
BYOR except you're choosing somebody else's role instead of your own.
Post by: Leafsnail on January 10, 2012, 09:58:45 pm
Post by: Darvi on January 10, 2012, 10:01:31 pm
Or any other person really.
Post by: Think0028 on January 10, 2012, 10:03:08 pm
Post by: Toaster on January 10, 2012, 10:09:09 pm
Post by: webadict on January 10, 2012, 10:14:26 pm
Post by: Darvi on January 10, 2012, 10:18:15 pm
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on January 10, 2012, 10:21:42 pm
Post by: Darvi on January 10, 2012, 10:26:33 pm
Post by: Darvi on January 11, 2012, 11:54:13 am
Also, minor fanboyism.
Post by: Toaster on January 11, 2012, 07:54:01 pm
Post by: Darvi on January 11, 2012, 07:55:48 pm
Post by: ECrownofFire on January 12, 2012, 07:37:53 pm
Since BSER is filling well, is there any objection to me putting up Bad Dudes Mafia for another try?Mountainous, semi-mountainous, bastard, flavorful, and/or something else? You gotta have more than that.
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on January 12, 2012, 07:39:34 pm
Post by: Toaster on January 12, 2012, 08:18:20 pm
I'm testing out an idea I had in it, but I don't want to give away too much. It's not bastard-level.
Also, I was looking to see what I said about it last time, and found this:
Wooo! Do I get a framed certificate?
(http://i.imgur.com/vHKIL.gif)
Just a stamp.
Post by: Think0028 on January 12, 2012, 08:55:11 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on January 12, 2012, 09:23:16 pm
That was really only back in May? Man.
Post by: Toaster on January 12, 2012, 09:35:59 pm
Post by: Toaster on January 12, 2012, 10:21:58 pm
Winning quotes:
Buddying is getting close to a townie to get them on your side. If you see two people buddying each other you've definately fucked up your read.
Unless you think I'm trying to ingratiate myself with a scumbuddy?
clearly I need to think twice about joking comments.Yes you should. In fact, you should think twice about making all comments, regardless of nature. Re-read every post before you post it, and think to yourself; could this be thought of as scummy (regardless of alignment)? If so, is there a different way of saying it?
Post by: Vector on January 12, 2012, 10:37:19 pm
=/
Post by: Toaster on January 12, 2012, 10:39:46 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on January 13, 2012, 12:09:18 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 13, 2012, 12:17:46 am
Post by: Leafsnail on January 13, 2012, 11:30:48 am
Winning quotes:Happy that I'm down as a winning quote.
Sad that I'M REMINDED HOW I ALWAYS FUCKED UP DEFINITELY
Oh god, that was the time I identified the whole scumteam too.
Post by: Dariush on January 13, 2012, 11:43:34 am
Post by: TolyK on January 13, 2012, 01:40:40 pm
I was less scummy then than now :)
Post by: webadict on January 13, 2012, 04:47:51 pm
Post by: Jack A T on January 13, 2012, 07:27:50 pm
Post by: Vector on January 13, 2012, 07:30:48 pm
I was scum and I pulled one over Wuba's head :3
Post by: webadict on January 13, 2012, 08:51:49 pm
Beginner's Mafia. No, not BMI. Beginner's Mafia, the first one, before we'd started sticking on numbers.Technically, you pulled one over dakarian's head. I was onto you for the first two Days, but he was against it. But, I caused you enough stress to make it totally worth it. And then I got you again in Toon Mafia.
I was scum and I pulled one over Wuba's head :3
:P
Any time anyone outs from me entering for their own health is a victory.
Post by: Toaster on January 13, 2012, 08:57:04 pm
Oh god, that was the time I identified the whole scumteam too.
I still remember being shocked that Joker returned Town.
And oh yes, Salad Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=70902.0). Still my best flavor.
The reboot of BM X was my first. Boy, was I clueless.
Post by: Urist_McArathos on January 13, 2012, 09:59:45 pm
Post by: Toaster on January 13, 2012, 10:22:05 pm
Post by: Darvi on January 16, 2012, 12:10:25 pm
Post by: Dariush on January 16, 2012, 02:33:00 pm
So, should I throw Bay12 mafia in there? Considering that there currently are three active games and another one that's been in signups for gog knows how long, I am not even sure that enough people will join to make it really worthwhile.Yes. If it doesn't work, deface the OP and close the thread, repeat in several weeks.
Post by: Ottofar on January 16, 2012, 02:53:00 pm
Post by: TolyK on January 16, 2012, 03:16:24 pm
I'd like to pre-in for that?Same here, seeing as I missed BSER :P
Post by: Darvi on January 16, 2012, 03:22:44 pm
I'd like to pre-in for that?You should visit the RTD subforum more often.
Heck, I should get back there sometime. Flippin' exams.
Post by: TolyK on January 16, 2012, 04:06:03 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 16, 2012, 04:53:58 pm
;)
Post by: webadict on January 16, 2012, 04:55:15 pm
Does anyone miss me?Who are you?
;)
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 16, 2012, 05:01:39 pm
I also still list.
Oh, good times.
Edit: What the fuck was I trying to say in that second sentence? "I also still list"? I also still list what!?
Post by: Toaster on January 16, 2012, 05:04:03 pm
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on January 16, 2012, 05:14:13 pm
I also still list.
Do you list to port or to starboard?
Post by: webadict on January 16, 2012, 05:54:30 pm
You don't remember? I was all like "WEB IS THE MAFIA" and you were like "NO I'M NOT" and then you were the mafia and you were like "YOU JUST GOT LUCKY" but I KNEW.itwasajoke.png
I also still list.
Oh, good times.
Edit: What the fuck was I trying to say in that second sentence? "I also still list"? I also still list what!?
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 16, 2012, 05:58:39 pm
I think my second sentence was going to clarify that but then I went and gave up halfway through for some reason.
Post by: webadict on January 16, 2012, 06:37:43 pm
iwasbeingironicandplayingalong.giffail.wav
I think my second sentence was going to clarify that but then I went and gave up halfway through for some reason.
Post by: Orangebottle on January 16, 2012, 07:33:05 pm
yep.aviiwasbeingironicandplayingalong.giffail.wav
I think my second sentence was going to clarify that but then I went and gave up halfway through for some reason.
Post by: Orangebottle on January 17, 2012, 12:38:52 am
Post by: webadict on January 17, 2012, 01:08:04 am
No, that was stupid.It was indeed. I have the quote to prove it.
Post by: Orangebottle on January 17, 2012, 01:11:39 am
I was hoping to get rid of it before anyone noticed and I embarrassed myself.
Post by: webadict on January 17, 2012, 01:21:44 am
Darn.I am webadict. You can hide nothing from me.
I was hoping to get rid of it before anyone noticed and I embarrassed myself.
But, because I'm kind, I'll make sure no one sees it. (http://You know what would be funsadistic??
A bastard game that goes beyond bastard.
Strange mechanics everywhere, incredibly bastard-y roles(Cops that die after their first post, killers that can't kill until they've been the first vote on a lynched player, a role that replaces the mod for a day and a night when the player dies, etc).)
Post by: ECrownofFire on January 17, 2012, 03:01:28 am
Webadict, you just lost a valuable piece of blackmail.Darn.I am webadict. You can hide nothing from me.
I was hoping to get rid of it before anyone noticed and I embarrassed myself.
But, because I'm kind, I'll make sure no one sees it. (http://You know what would be funsadistic??
A bastard game that goes beyond bastard.
Strange mechanics everywhere, incredibly bastard-y roles(Cops that die after their first post, killers that can't kill until they've been the first vote on a lynched player, a role that replaces the mod for a day and a night when the player dies, etc).)
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 17, 2012, 10:25:01 am
Quote
Also, fun little bastard mods.Would anyone be interested in another one of those? I don't have the time to play, unfortunately, but hosting is a lot less of a time commitment.
I've been toying around with a couple ideas that might be fun. I'm not sure yet if I really want to run anything, but it would probably be another 5 player Quick Bastard. Though not quite as quick as they used to be, heh. Would there be any interest in that sort of thing?
Post by: webadict on January 17, 2012, 10:45:38 am
I've got ideas, but they aren't great enough to make a game about them. I'll gladly work with you to help make some.QuoteAlso, fun little bastard mods.Would anyone be interested in another one of those? I don't have the time to play, unfortunately, but hosting is a lot less of a time commitment.
I've been toying around with a couple ideas that might be fun. I'm not sure yet if I really want to run anything, but it would probably be another 5 player Quick Bastard. Though not quite as quick as they used to be, heh. Would there be any interest in that sort of thing?
Post by: Orangebottle on January 17, 2012, 11:58:00 am
I'm always up for a good bastard game.QuoteAlso, fun little bastard mods.Would anyone be interested in another one of those? I don't have the time to play, unfortunately, but hosting is a lot less of a time commitment.
I've been toying around with a couple ideas that might be fun. I'm not sure yet if I really want to run anything, but it would probably be another 5 player Quick Bastard. Though not quite as quick as they used to be, heh. Would there be any interest in that sort of thing?
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 17, 2012, 01:35:28 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 17, 2012, 02:33:21 pm
Post by: Shakerag on January 18, 2012, 11:49:01 am
Post by: Mephansteras on January 18, 2012, 11:49:56 am
So has the ransom note from Mephansteras's kidnappers been delivered yet?
*sigh* Sorry about the delay. Work's been hectic and I was gone for most of the weekend. I've been working on the Night PMs, but they're not quite done. I will have the next day up today, though.
Post by: Shakerag on January 18, 2012, 11:54:04 am
So has the ransom note from Mephansteras's kidnappers been delivered yet?
*sigh* Sorry about the delay. Work's been hectic and I was gone for most of the weekend. I've been working on the Night PMs, but they're not quite done. I will have the next day up today, though.
Yeah, I can understand that. It's fine if there's a delay due to RL stuff, but just please keep us informed/updated in some way so we don't think you got hit by a bus or something (which I did briefly consider).
Post by: webadict on January 24, 2012, 03:10:04 pm
Post by: Toaster on January 24, 2012, 03:32:58 pm
Post by: TolyK on January 25, 2012, 07:55:37 am
But who cares? :D
Post by: lordnincompoop on January 25, 2012, 09:25:48 am
And I might want to in as well. But that would be 3 games. :P
But who cares? :D
A Mafia game is a rather long-term commitment. You probably won't be saying the same thing after three Days (and this is me speaking out of experience instead of my ass).
Besides, it's better to be more active in a few than spread over many.
Post by: TolyK on January 25, 2012, 09:54:45 am
Which is why I didn't bold my in.
Post by: Dariush on January 25, 2012, 01:47:25 pm
A Mafia game is a rather long-term commitment. You probably won't be saying the same thing after three Days (and this is me speaking out of experience instead of my ass).Don't listen to him, guys. I've been able to play five mafias simultaneously, and only because there were never more active mafias at once.
Besides, it's better to be more active in a few than spread over many.
Post by: Vector on January 25, 2012, 01:52:29 pm
Post by: webadict on January 25, 2012, 02:04:38 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on January 25, 2012, 02:16:15 pm
You are not a model of activity and skill. Seriously, trying to upstage LordNincompoop just makes you look like an idiot.
I think you're going too far with this whole "Make Dariush look and feel like shit" thing you have against him.
Post by: Vector on January 25, 2012, 02:29:27 pm
Sorry for being such a dick.
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 25, 2012, 02:32:04 pm
Should I run another one at some point in the near future?
OR
Should I actually play in a game, despite history telling me that will end incredibly poorly?
:P
Post by: klingon13524 on January 25, 2012, 02:42:00 pm
Post by: Think0028 on January 25, 2012, 03:00:29 pm
GlyphGryph: I love/loved your current game, and while I'd like to see you run more, I don't think anyone'd object if you wanted to play a game.
Post by: webadict on January 25, 2012, 03:00:44 pm
Now that my game is almost up... (ends today, one way or another), I have a question for folks:Play. I've got a BYOR that needs more players.
Should I run another one at some point in the near future?
OR
Should I actually play in a game, despite history telling me that will end incredibly poorly?
:P
Post by: Toaster on January 25, 2012, 03:18:10 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on January 25, 2012, 06:20:09 pm
Post by: Orangebottle on January 25, 2012, 06:31:28 pm
Plaaaay!Now that my game is almost up... (ends today, one way or another), I have a question for folks:Play. I've got a BYOR that needs more players.
Should I run another one at some point in the near future?
OR
Should I actually play in a game, despite history telling me that will end incredibly poorly?
:P
Post by: Bookthras on January 26, 2012, 12:11:48 pm
Did you miss me?
Post by: webadict on January 26, 2012, 12:16:40 pm
Honey, I'm home! (http://i.imgur.com/kVBM3.jpg)Where's the Jersey Shore quotes?
Did you miss me?
Post by: Dariush on January 26, 2012, 12:27:27 pm
Honey, I'm home! (http://i.imgur.com/kVBM3.jpg)Who are you? Go away.
Did you miss me?
Post by: Darvi on January 26, 2012, 12:28:55 pm
Honey, I'm home! (http://i.imgur.com/kVBM3.jpg)Is it Book? Is it Zathras?
Did you miss me?
No! It's Bookthras!
Post by: Bookthras on January 26, 2012, 12:35:54 pm
Where's the Jersey Shore quotes?New body, new soul, new game. Ah, that fresh car smell is great. Bookthras detests the Jersey shore and anything to do with it, unless proven otherwise. Want a game?
Cheers and claps to D&D! (Dariush & Darvi, no dungeons or dragons)
Yes, it is Bookthras.
It is me.
Made of win.
Post by: TolyK on January 26, 2012, 12:40:45 pm
*suspicious gaze*
Post by: webadict on January 26, 2012, 12:42:07 pm
I saw that edit.Honey, I'm home! (http://i.imgur.com/kVBM3.jpg)Is it Book? Is it Zathras?
Did you miss me?
No! It's Zathras!
Post by: Dariush on January 26, 2012, 01:32:42 pm
Post by: TolyK on January 26, 2012, 01:34:08 pm
Only partially.
Post by: Toaster on January 26, 2012, 01:48:14 pm
If I'm hosting a simple game, I have no trouble letting newbies in if they're willing to learn. More complex games and I'd probably ask that they get at least one game under their belt.
Post by: Darvi on January 26, 2012, 02:17:01 pm
Whatever. Considering I have to reread posts as short as that one twice to get rid of all the typos made from hunger and general lack of energy I think a ninja-edit is acceptable.I saw that edit.Honey, I'm home! (http://i.imgur.com/kVBM3.jpg)Is it Book? Is it Zathras?
Did you miss me?
No! It's Zathras!
Post by: Vector on January 26, 2012, 02:20:11 pm
Post by: webadict on January 26, 2012, 02:26:28 pm
I mostly agree with you on this one, Dariush. I think that there's sometimes simple games that need just one more to fill and it's fine for first-timers to come in, but we are starting to have a bit of a flaking problem.Honestly, the biggest flaking problem is in BM, which is all about first-timers.
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 26, 2012, 02:46:18 pm
Basically, small game, 6 players, no flavor, almost purely as a place to practice things a bit quicker than larger games move.
One random role (Doctor or Cop) for town, no roles for the scumplayer.
One scumplayer, plus a n0 mafiakill.
Day one thus starts with 5 players, one lynch one kill, day 2 is lylo almost guaranteed. Fun for everyone.
I was just wondering, maybe it's a silly idea and no one would want to play a game without flavour, but I think as a weekly thing it could be enjoyable.
Post by: Vector on January 26, 2012, 02:47:58 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 26, 2012, 02:50:55 pm
Post by: Vector on January 26, 2012, 02:55:33 pm
The straight-up 9p nearly-mountainous hasn't shown up for a while, though...
Post by: Leafsnail on January 26, 2012, 02:55:52 pm
And I dunno, time constraints aren't necessarily fun. I kindof prefer unlimited time and hammers, although lurking and our general refusal to compromise on who gets lynched may make this impractical in most games.
Post by: Darvi on January 26, 2012, 02:59:20 pm
And I dunno, time constraints aren't necessarily fun. I kindof prefer unlimited time and hammers, although lurking and our general refusal to compromise on who gets lynched may make this impractical in most games.Which is why I would never make hammers a core element in a game. If people would really want to lynch somebody quickly, there's shortens.
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 26, 2012, 03:02:55 pm
I could just drop the roles and just play it straight, that would give the scum a bit more power.
It was just an idea, though, if there's no interest that's fine.
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And I dunno, time constraints aren't necessarily fun.I love time constraints, honestly.
Post by: webadict on January 26, 2012, 03:03:51 pm
Hammers are amazing. It allows for an extra element for players to (ab)use. Shortens are almost never used because of how impractical they are and how scummy you look while using them. Seriously. You can't use them as either alignment unless you're sure someone's scum. And if you're sure, then you can always use the Day for something else.And I dunno, time constraints aren't necessarily fun. I kindof prefer unlimited time and hammers, although lurking and our general refusal to compromise on who gets lynched may make this impractical in most games.Which is why I would never make hammers a core element in a game. If people would really want to lynch somebody quickly, there's shortens.
Hammers are a great tool, and removing it from a game should be rare, like with BM, where the goal is to learn.
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 26, 2012, 03:05:43 pm
Just as a note to anyone who might find such behavior particularly scummy in the mafia game I've just joined. Expect it.
(assuming it even has shortens... I should probably check)
I'm not a big hammer fan, though.
Edit: Yay! It has shortens! Shortens, here I come. :P
Post by: Darvi on January 26, 2012, 03:06:55 pm
Shortens are almost never used because of how impractical they are and how scummy you look while using them. Seriously. You can't use them as either alignment unless you're sure someone's scum.Can't tell if serious of joking.
Post by: Leafsnail on January 26, 2012, 03:07:03 pm
Post by: webadict on January 26, 2012, 03:14:28 pm
That's serious. Shortens are pretty terrible, and are only used if the Day has been extended at least once, or if someone was going to be Hammered anyhow.Shortens are almost never used because of how impractical they are and how scummy you look while using them. Seriously. You can't use them as either alignment unless you're sure someone's scum.Can't tell if serious of joking.
Post by: Dariush on January 26, 2012, 03:16:26 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 26, 2012, 03:30:23 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on January 26, 2012, 03:32:25 pm
Because long games lead to boring lulls, waning interest, dropped players, and the constant mafia-induced tearing at my mind that slowly drives me crazy if it continues for more than two weeks.
No wonder you don't play Paranormal. :P
Post by: Urist_McArathos on January 26, 2012, 09:09:53 pm
So, there's that for vanillas if there's interest for it. I'd also love to play in a couple, since I'm a bit too experienced for BM games but far from a pro and really need the practice.
Post by: IronyOwl on January 26, 2012, 11:49:05 pm
Honey, I'm home! (http://i.imgur.com/kVBM3.jpg)Yay!
Did you miss me?
Well what I mean by "hammers" is that the day doesn't end until there's a majority vote on someone (like #mafia, or alternatively like mafiascum where they generally have a really long deadline (2 weeks or so) that noone wants to reach because the momentum will be pretty much lost from the game by that point). It means that the town has to have come to some kind of consensus before the day ends, so people don't just get, say, 3 votes from a bunch of lurkers then get timed out. It also means the scum generally has to do something if they want the day to end and not just lurk. Seeing who's prepared to place the hammer vote is always fun too.How does that work out? Better, worse, just different?
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 27, 2012, 02:05:25 am
Post by: Toaster on January 27, 2012, 01:48:19 pm
Post by: lordnincompoop on January 27, 2012, 02:21:12 pm
Pandar: Not only do I think you should, but I also think you should make it hammers only. I think we're getting into a rut, and a hammers game would help mix things up. Hammers are perfectly tolerable in a 9 or so player game. (This isn't your old 19p monster.)
Personally, I never much liked hammers-only games. Too slow and ponderous.
Post by: Leafsnail on January 27, 2012, 02:21:52 pm
How does that work out? Better, worse, just different?I think that if you can at least have enough activity to make sure hammers happen at some point then it works out way better and more interesting. Lynches give you more information when someone actually has to personally "pull the trigger" and hammer them, for one thing.
Post by: Mephansteras on January 27, 2012, 02:24:22 pm
Post by: Dariush on January 27, 2012, 03:04:14 pm
Quote from: >>>Mephansteras<<<
Something about a new game.ININININININIIIIIIIIIIN
Post by: Toaster on January 27, 2012, 04:19:35 pm
Pandar: Not only do I think you should, but I also think you should make it hammers only. I think we're getting into a rut, and a hammers game would help mix things up. Hammers are perfectly tolerable in a 9 or so player game. (This isn't your old 19p monster.)
Personally, I never much liked hammers-only games. Too slow and ponderous.
And our current games with their 8 extensions aren't slow and ponderous?
[I can't say too much, having not deviated from my unlimited extension policy]
Post by: Think0028 on January 27, 2012, 04:41:12 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 27, 2012, 04:43:32 pm
I only ever allowed one extension in my game though, and that was only for whatever half the normal day time was. I never had anyone complain that they wished they had more time - the only result was people generally spent a lot more time posting than in the games with infinite extensions.
Post by: lordnincompoop on January 28, 2012, 04:55:25 am
Pandar: Not only do I think you should, but I also think you should make it hammers only. I think we're getting into a rut, and a hammers game would help mix things up. Hammers are perfectly tolerable in a 9 or so player game. (This isn't your old 19p monster.)
Personally, I never much liked hammers-only games. Too slow and ponderous.
And our current games with their 8 extensions aren't slow and ponderous?
[I can't say too much, having not deviated from my unlimited extension policy]
I thought we had more games around with Extension limits.
I quite like the pace that the Paranormal series, for example, imposes on the players.
Post by: Leafsnail on January 28, 2012, 08:12:21 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 30, 2012, 06:18:18 pm
What do you guys think? No more first past the post! No more worrying about a split vote at the last moment! Something something something and POLITICAL ROLES!
Which of the party members are secretly BLUEDOGS/RHINOS?
Will you be able to survive the switch to an approval voting system? Find out today!
(Not really, just gauging interest)
Post by: Leafsnail on January 30, 2012, 06:33:26 pm
I guess the other obvious possibility is proportional representation, although that'd require people to have a death percentage or something.
Post by: IronyOwl on January 30, 2012, 06:37:35 pm
I guess the other obvious possibility is proportional representation, although that'd require people to have a death percentage or something.This sounds like a job for roles! Or, I don't know, committee negotiation or something. Hell, it could even shift randomly each day!
Post by: Leafsnail on January 30, 2012, 06:58:13 pm
Post by: Mii on January 30, 2012, 10:26:20 pm
But it's definitely something to think about.
Post by: Mephansteras on January 30, 2012, 10:45:59 pm
The approval voting idea sounds very interesting! As Leafsnail previously stated, though, it would be very odd for a Mafia game. It would cut into a lot of the strategies that people have built around 'last moment' votes.
But it's definitely something to think about.
Hi Mii! Welcome to the Mafia subforum. I don't think I've seen you around here before.
Post by: Mii on January 30, 2012, 10:56:11 pm
The approval voting idea sounds very interesting! As Leafsnail previously stated, though, it would be very odd for a Mafia game. It would cut into a lot of the strategies that people have built around 'last moment' votes.
But it's definitely something to think about.
Hi Mii! Welcome to the Mafia subforum. I don't think I've seen you around here before.
You definitely haven't! I'm new to both Bay12 and to Mafia (though I've gotten the hang of both by lurking incessantly). It's nice to meet you, Mephansteras!
Post by: webadict on January 30, 2012, 11:13:47 pm
She was going to sub into BM XXX, but klingon had an unfortunate accideath.The approval voting idea sounds very interesting! As Leafsnail previously stated, though, it would be very odd for a Mafia game. It would cut into a lot of the strategies that people have built around 'last moment' votes.
But it's definitely something to think about.
Hi Mii! Welcome to the Mafia subforum. I don't think I've seen you around here before.
Post by: Mii on January 30, 2012, 11:38:41 pm
Post by: webadict on January 30, 2012, 11:49:29 pm
I'm actually quite grateful that the death occurred. I realize now I wasn't even ready to join a game yet when I started as I had thought - I would have made a complete and utter fool of myself. I'll just hope the NK before I even join isn't somehow negative foreshadowing.? Don't be worried. It's really not a big deal.
Post by: Vector on January 30, 2012, 11:52:18 pm
Welcome. I hope you enjoy yourself here.
Post by: Mii on January 31, 2012, 12:04:21 am
Thank you very much, Vector!
Post by: Shakerag on January 31, 2012, 12:12:49 am
I've read a plenty of these Mafia games by now; judging by some of the ingenuity I've seen, there is a lot for me to worry about. :'D I'll be taking all of that in stride, though.
Thank you very much, Vector!I don't particularly like melons, though, to tell you the truth.
OMG, I can't trust a person that doesn't like a good muskmelon.
Post by: webadict on January 31, 2012, 12:15:07 am
I've read a plenty of these Mafia games by now; judging by some of the ingenuity I've seen, there is a lot for me to worry about. :'D I'll be taking all of that in stride, though.You can worry about that when you play a game with me in it.
Post by: Reverie on January 31, 2012, 12:15:35 am
Oh lordy, it's Flandre part II ;DWait, what?
Welcome. I hope you enjoy yourself here.
How do you figure, if you don't mind me asking?
EDIT: Oh, and hey Mii. Welcome to the mafia subforum!
Post by: Mii on January 31, 2012, 12:23:29 am
You can worry about that when you play a game with me in it.
Yes, you're on my radar without us even having to start a game.
OMG, I can't trust a person that doesn't like a good muskmelon.
Drench the melon in salt and it's alright. Maybe. C:
Edit: Thank you very much, Flandre! It is a pleasure to meet you. n.n
Post by: Reverie on January 31, 2012, 12:50:22 am
Edit: Thank you very much, Flandre! It is a pleasure to meet you. n.nLikewise! :3
You will become addicted to this in no time, I am sure.
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on January 31, 2012, 11:12:11 am
Post by: Mii on January 31, 2012, 11:14:35 am
Welcome to the subforum.
Thank you! I'm happy to see someone who likes Homestuck here.
Post by: Vector on January 31, 2012, 11:26:58 am
Welcome to the subforum.
Thank you! I'm happy to see someone who likes Homestuck here.
You should... go read our MSPA game, if you haven't already.
Post by: Mii on January 31, 2012, 11:31:24 am
Welcome to the subforum.
Thank you! I'm happy to see someone who likes Homestuck here.
You should... go read our MSPA game, if you haven't already.
What game would that be?
Post by: Darvi on January 31, 2012, 11:32:00 am
That being said, I wonder how broken a LE role would be.
Post by: lordnincompoop on January 31, 2012, 03:52:46 pm
This one (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=44592.0).
That being said, I wonder how broken a LE role would be.
Lord English - Mafia
(Power) (1-shot) (Day) (Night) Destruction: When you activate this power, you win instantly. This power will always happen first in any given Day or Night and cannot be blocked or redirected.
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on January 31, 2012, 05:16:56 pm
Also he'd have a 1-shot convert and the convert would convert his/her killer and so on.
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 31, 2012, 10:22:37 pm
Basically, there are 9 Republican nominees getting ready to try and become president. While all of you want to win, despite this newfangled approval voting system that just got introduced, the most important thing is insuring Republican victory. And the current president has screwed up badly enough that as long as you can avoid totally screwing up the nominations, a victory should be easy.
But you have evidence, secret documents you discovered from spying on the Democrats, that two of your nominees are not as they appear... in fact, they are RINOS! Republicans in name only, democrats in disguise! You'll need to root them out - a flurry of negative attack ads should do the track. But beware - they are getting heavy funding from the other site, and their SUPER-PACS can strike out and destroy your reputations without revealing the candidate behind them!
For the future of the party, for party purity, for god and for country - these terrorist traitor comminazi sympathizers must be rooted out!
Post by: Powder Miner on January 31, 2012, 10:26:06 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 31, 2012, 10:26:52 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on January 31, 2012, 10:41:54 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 31, 2012, 10:47:45 pm
Functionally? It means you can vote for as many people as you want. Vote for one becomes vote for one or more. If you think 2, or even 3, people are scum, vote for all of them.
Post by: Andrew425 on January 31, 2012, 11:14:26 pm
Because that would be hilarious
Post by: webadict on January 31, 2012, 11:52:54 pm
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on January 31, 2012, 11:53:22 pm
Functionally? It means you can vote for as many people as you want. Vote for one becomes vote for one or more. If you think 2, or even 3, people are scum, vote for all of them.
And no unvoting, because that's not how America works.
Post by: IronyOwl on February 01, 2012, 05:14:07 am
Post by: Darvi on February 01, 2012, 05:43:01 am
Maybe if I try hard enough.
Post by: Dariush on February 01, 2012, 06:49:24 am
I kind of want an insane bastard game. You know, the kind where half the mechanics have nothing whatsoever to do with mafia. Don't we have anyone here who likes to make and run those?I like playing those and maybe making up several mechanics, but definitely not running one - I constantly think 'No, wait, that idea is much better than this one!' and never get anywhere in particular. But if someone decides to risk it, I may contribute.
I NEED BASTARD PARANORMAL 2 BLAAARGH
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 01, 2012, 07:16:11 am
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Has anyone ever ran a game where their is no scum but the mod just kills people when they feel like it?
Because that would be hilarious
I ran one of those!
Anyways, if there's no interest in the game I outlined above, I'll probably go back to running bastards after this game.
Post by: Dariush on February 01, 2012, 07:47:33 am
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Has anyone ever ran a game where their is no scum but the mod just kills people when they feel like it?I proposed such a game in idea thread, but Pandar threw shit at me until I went away. :'(
Because that would be hilarious
Post by: Mii on February 01, 2012, 08:37:39 am
Post by: Toaster on February 01, 2012, 08:49:50 am
Post by: ECrownofFire on February 07, 2012, 01:19:17 am
Person X votes for person Y, person Z is forced to vote for person X. Either through a posting restriction or "locked" by the mod.
Also amusing: Forced OMGUS.
Post by: webadict on February 07, 2012, 09:23:30 am
Also amusing: Forced OMGUS.Been done.
OMGUS Voter from Vote Mafia.
Post by: Mephansteras on February 07, 2012, 11:06:39 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 07, 2012, 11:08:37 am
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 12, 2012, 06:50:59 am
Post by: Dariush on February 12, 2012, 07:00:10 am
What the hell happened to BMXXX?It's currently in the Night phase.
GIMME WC3 YOU BASTARD
Post by: lordnincompoop on February 12, 2012, 07:39:22 am
What the hell happened to BMXXX?It's currently in the Night phase.
For four days, now. That's a tad longer than usual.
GIMME WC3 YOU BASTARD
no screw you dad
ill start games when i want to
Post by: Darvi on February 12, 2012, 07:45:30 am
Post by: webadict on February 12, 2012, 01:48:10 pm
Busier than usual. I'll have all my games go into Day probably tonight.What the hell happened to BMXXX?It's currently in the Night phase.
For four days, now. That's a tad longer than usual.
Post by: Dariush on February 14, 2012, 11:55:13 am
Needs a bit more work, but I think I have the core of Bastard Paranormal 2 ready. So once I have the details shaken out I'll get that into sign-ups./me pokes Meph.
Post by: Mephansteras on February 16, 2012, 06:37:23 pm
Post by: Zrk2 on February 17, 2012, 12:47:37 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 17, 2012, 12:22:20 pm
I think it could be fun if anyone was interested, and I'd actually enjoy probing the minds of a couple other people here if they were up for doing the same thing.
And now I've been inspired to design a mafia where everyone's role is some sort of mafia-game-creator-type. "The bastaaaaard - Two Shot Night or Day Action. Make an a rule tweak to this game with moderator approval. You may also direct the moderator to lie his ass off about it." "My Favorite Flavour is Vanilla - Each of your posts most include at least half the post as RP in italics. Once per night, you may tweak a rule at random to be identical to standard mafia rules." "Bring your Own Lover - One shot: You may take role requests from other players during the day. As a night action, you may craft a new role for one of those players, working with moderator, in line with the role they requested."
Heh... would be a lot of work, but I think it would be great fun.
Post by: Mephansteras on February 17, 2012, 12:27:25 pm
Post by: Toaster on February 17, 2012, 12:39:30 pm
Gonna be on another mafia break soon as I finish Politibastard, but I was thinking - would anyone be interested in sort of a question/answer thread about how I design games, my thoughts on role balance, hooks, and themes, responses to people with questions, and descriptions of how I make various choices?
I think a generalized modding QA thread would be a good thing. I thought we had one in the past, but it's either long dead or was never actually made.
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 20, 2012, 09:27:57 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on February 20, 2012, 10:14:39 pm
What for though?
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 20, 2012, 10:17:10 pm
You don't have to try to help one side or another - as the audience, it's primarily there to entertain yourselves.
Post by: Bookthras on February 20, 2012, 10:29:32 pm
Okay.
What for though?
For "fun", dear. I'm sure you know what that is; you've seen other people have it.
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on February 20, 2012, 10:31:31 pm
Post by: webadict on February 20, 2012, 10:55:21 pm
Post by: Orangebottle on February 21, 2012, 01:17:44 am
That sounds easy.Yeah, all you have to do is act normally.
Post by: webadict on February 21, 2012, 01:55:42 am
Psh, all I have to do is act nice.That sounds easy.Yeah, all you have to do is act normally.
Post by: Vector on February 23, 2012, 01:47:54 pm
But for now, goodbye.
Post by: Dariush on February 23, 2012, 02:02:30 pm
But for now, goodbye.Woohooooooooo.
Post by: Think0028 on February 23, 2012, 02:14:21 pm
Post by: Toaster on February 23, 2012, 03:19:20 pm
(I managed to typo "Fare" as "Fart." What may be the significance of that?)
Post by: Jim Groovester on February 23, 2012, 04:20:00 pm
Post by: Urist McUselessNoble on February 23, 2012, 04:21:53 pm
Oh, well, all good things come to those who wait.
Post by: Pandarsenic on February 23, 2012, 08:17:11 pm
I, like P4nd4r before me, am basically leaving until I get into graduate school--at which point I'll probably come back and play a game or something.
But for now, goodbye.
We'll miss you ;-;
Post by: Urist_McArathos on February 23, 2012, 09:18:22 pm
Post by: Toaster on February 23, 2012, 09:48:18 pm
Post by: Think0028 on February 23, 2012, 09:51:21 pm
Post by: Orangebottle on February 24, 2012, 12:54:47 am
You really are a dick.But for now, goodbye.Woohooooooooo.
Anyways, goodbye Vector, though I hardly knew you.
Good luck.
Post by: webadict on February 24, 2012, 01:05:39 am
I, like P4nd4r before me, am basically leaving until I get into graduate school--at which point I'll probably come back and play a game or something.$20 on she'll be back before next fall.
But for now, goodbye.
Post by: Solifuge on February 24, 2012, 08:30:54 pm
...which I guess is a good thing for her. Eh, it balances out.
Toaster kinda inadvertently convinced me to make my way back here. What did I miss?
Post by: Jim Groovester on February 24, 2012, 08:50:41 pm
Post by: Zrk2 on February 24, 2012, 08:53:12 pm
Some mafia games.
...You win the internet.
I, like P4nd4r before me, am basically leaving until I get into graduate school--at which point I'll probably come back and play a game or something.$20 on she'll be back before next fall.
But for now, goodbye.
I can't see Vector not make grad school.
Post by: Toaster on February 24, 2012, 09:33:01 pm
Toaster kinda inadvertently convinced me to make my way back here. What did I miss?
Welcome! That was an awfully delayed reaction, though. I guess I implanted the thought, which slowly gnawed away at your self-control until it had wholly consumed your will.
Post by: Toaster on February 24, 2012, 09:35:20 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on February 24, 2012, 09:43:04 pm
Post by: webadict on February 24, 2012, 10:24:04 pm
$40 on she'll make grad school.I, like P4nd4r before me, am basically leaving until I get into graduate school--at which point I'll probably come back and play a game or something.$20 on she'll be back before next fall.
But for now, goodbye.
I can't see Vector not make grad school.
Post by: Dariush on February 25, 2012, 07:24:24 am
role-lightWHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?! Just do a Paranormal-Kingmaker crossover. Or maybe Paranormal-Salad Mafia. Or maybe Paranormal BYOR. Or even better Paranormal-Paranormal, because all other games suck by comparison.
Post by: webadict on February 25, 2012, 10:45:27 am
Role-heavy Kingmaker, you say?role-lightWHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?! Just do a Paranormal-Kingmaker crossover. Or maybe Paranormal-Salad Mafia. Or maybe Paranormal BYOR. Or even better Paranormal-Paranormal, because all other games suck by comparison.
Post by: webadict on February 25, 2012, 04:42:20 pm
Post by: Powder Miner on February 27, 2012, 06:47:50 pm
(This doesn't go in the gametype discussion thread because I know exactly what I want to do basically this thread is for scheduling games right?)
Post by: webadict on February 27, 2012, 08:07:09 pm
I want to host a simple little bastard in which you don't flip roles. (Which will be told at the start since I have no intention of making it super complicated).I had something similar to this called Color Mafia, except without telling what roles were in at the beginning.
(This doesn't go in the gametype discussion thread because I know exactly what I want to do basically this thread is for scheduling games right?)
A pair of Masons claimed Mafia at the end and won it for Town.
Post by: Leafsnail on February 27, 2012, 08:07:38 pm
Post by: webadict on February 27, 2012, 09:08:26 pm
And Org is stupid.Let's kill ALL the survivors.
Post by: Powder Miner on February 27, 2012, 09:39:17 pm
That's not even what my idea is though (bwahaha). ...I'm just... well... uh... just when should I host it?I want to host a simple little bastard in which you don't flip roles. (Which will be told at the start since I have no intention of making it super complicated).I had something similar to this called Color Mafia, except without telling what roles were in at the beginning.
(This doesn't go in the gametype discussion thread because I know exactly what I want to do basically this thread is for scheduling games right?)
A pair of Masons claimed Mafia at the end and won it for Town.
And I meant the fact that roles don't flip will be told. I just don't want to say what it is (the rest of the rules) since that would ruin it.
Two edits! Must be clearer when talking! Must be clearer when talking I mean typing heeeerg!
Post by: webadict on February 27, 2012, 10:11:53 pm
Umm... What rules would be missing?That's not even what my idea is though (bwahaha). ...I'm just... well... uh... just when should I host it?I want to host a simple little bastard in which you don't flip roles. (Which will be told at the start since I have no intention of making it super complicated).I had something similar to this called Color Mafia, except without telling what roles were in at the beginning.
(This doesn't go in the gametype discussion thread because I know exactly what I want to do basically this thread is for scheduling games right?)
A pair of Masons claimed Mafia at the end and won it for Town.
And I meant the fact that roles don't flip will be told. I just don't want to say what it is (the rest of the rules) since that would ruin it.
Two edits! Must be clearer when talking! Must be clearer when talking I mean typing heeeerg!
Post by: Orangebottle on February 27, 2012, 10:41:16 pm
derpAnd Org is stupid.Let's kill ALL the survivors.
Post by: Powder Miner on February 27, 2012, 10:52:35 pm
Post by: Toaster on February 27, 2012, 11:15:11 pm
In other news, Bad Dudes Mafia is done. I'll be putting up a 9p role light hammers game shortly.
Post by: Powder Miner on February 28, 2012, 12:16:08 am
Trying this over: Bastard. No roleflips.
>.>
...But yeah when should I host this?
Post by: Toaster on February 28, 2012, 12:39:49 am
Post by: webadict on February 28, 2012, 08:48:01 am
ARGH I CANNOT EXPRESS WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY!I won't play it, so if you want me to see if the rules are working, I don't mind.
Trying this over: Bastard. No roleflips.Final Destination only.And a... thing with roles. And I want to host it but when?
>.>
...But yeah when should I host this?
Also, perhaps I should run this Kingmaker BYOR? Kingmaker is such an odd gametype to begin with, but this allows me to add a bit of a different dimension to it.
Or maybe I'll just do a regular role-heavy Kingmaker. That sounds a bit better.
Roles: KM, Vig, RB, Doc, Cop, GF, Merc, RC, Trck, Wtch, RD, Rand, Mil
That sounds like enough roles to keep everyone happy. Perhaps I am also allowed to mix/modify?
Or I could just keep doing BYORs. Thems be easy.
Post by: Toaster on February 28, 2012, 09:05:29 am
Post by: webadict on February 28, 2012, 09:14:05 am
Post by: Dariush on February 28, 2012, 09:56:26 am
Post by: Toaster on February 28, 2012, 11:36:45 am
Also, allow me to direct you to BYOR 6.3 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76054.msg1960612#msg19606120) and Kingmaker 4 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76609.msg1993336#msg1993336) for counter examples.
Post by: Dariush on February 28, 2012, 11:48:55 am
You mean having reasonable, levelheaded people with a good basis in logic and reason as king isn't a good thing?Not if that means that the Kingmaker ignores aligment and simply picks the most experienced guy, in his opinion. Also such a setup allows everyone who know they won't be chosen ever to half-ass everything due to feeling their uselessness and get lynched.
Post by: Darvi on February 28, 2012, 01:02:40 pm
Kingmaker 4 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=76609.msg1993336#msg1993336)Yeah I wonder what super was thinking by crowning me.
Post by: webadict on February 28, 2012, 01:31:59 pm
Then maybe they shouldn't be lazy?You mean having reasonable, levelheaded people with a good basis in logic and reason as king isn't a good thing?Not if that means that the Kingmaker ignores aligment and simply picks the most experienced guy, in his opinion. Also such a setup allows everyone who know they won't be chosen ever to half-ass everything due to feeling their uselessness and get lynched.
Post by: Phantom of The Library on February 28, 2012, 05:30:42 pm
Everyone has three people they have to get lynched to win, except for the Mafia who have the normal wincon, the targets have to be lynched in order to win, so if you ended up being a vigilante you couldn't simply kill your targets with your NK, you have to have them lynched.
How does that sound? I've only played one game so far (there haven't been any open since the BM I was in ended), so it probably has some problem(s) with it I'm unaware of. Suggestions?
Does this idea have any merit?
Post by: Darvi on February 28, 2012, 05:33:49 pm
Post by: Phantom of The Library on February 28, 2012, 05:36:13 pm
Realized this wouldn't work at all and I put it in the wrong thread. Derp.
Post by: webadict on February 28, 2012, 10:57:12 pm
What about a Vote Mafia?
Post by: Jim Groovester on February 28, 2012, 11:15:45 pm
What about a Vote Mafia?
Yes, please.
Post by: Toaster on March 24, 2012, 08:55:47 pm
I heard a request for Roguelike Mafia 4 next. Opinions? Thoughts on when to put it into signups?
Post by: Bookthras on March 24, 2012, 09:52:33 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 24, 2012, 10:20:35 pm
I can also safely expand the player base if more people want in.
Post by: Toaster on March 24, 2012, 11:55:18 pm
Post by: Bookthras on March 25, 2012, 01:32:16 am
Roguelike Discussion Thread (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=80808.0) Contains link to Google Doc of items/classes.Got it. Do you realise your thread is called "Rougelike", as in the red cosmetic? Rogues hate that.
I heard a request for Roguelike Mafia 4 next.The thread has links for Roguelike I & II... was there a III? Or why is IV next?
Post by: Toaster on March 25, 2012, 01:19:08 pm
Post by: Darvi on March 25, 2012, 01:39:10 pm
Post by: Toaster on March 25, 2012, 09:09:15 pm
Post by: Powder Miner on March 27, 2012, 05:36:09 pm
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on March 27, 2012, 05:38:44 pm
Post by: Toaster on March 27, 2012, 09:26:40 pm
Post by: Powder Miner on March 28, 2012, 06:19:34 pm
I'd like to do a BYOP.>.> FINE BUT LET ME DO A BSER AFTERWARDS Q.Q
Post by: Dariush on March 29, 2012, 02:23:06 am
Post by: Shakerag on March 29, 2012, 11:26:24 am
Also, is there a general rule of thumb for IC eligiblity? It's something I'm interested in doing in the future, and I'm wondering if there's a way (perhaps even a rough one) of gauging how close/far I would be from qualifying.
Post by: Darvi on March 29, 2012, 11:29:29 am
Post by: Toaster on March 29, 2012, 12:05:41 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on March 29, 2012, 12:20:30 pm
Post by: Shakerag on March 29, 2012, 12:25:54 pm
Dakarian went missing about 2 years ago. So... is there a cycle going on that we haven't noticed yet?
The obvious answer would be to check back in about 2 years and see if someone else has suddenly disappeared.
Post by: Orangebottle on March 29, 2012, 05:27:21 pm
I'd like to do a BYOP.Yessssss!
Post by: Mephansteras on March 29, 2012, 05:40:50 pm
I'll be out of town for the next few days, so it'll be a bit before I get anything into sign-ups, but it's good to know what people are interested in.
Post by: Bookthras on March 29, 2012, 06:09:22 pm
PS: BP2 was loads of fun! Thanks!
Post by: Leafsnail on March 29, 2012, 06:40:14 pm
The obvious answer would be to check back in about 2 years and see if someone else has suddenly disappeared.But isn't this our chance to have our own "counter-disappearance"...?
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 29, 2012, 06:42:33 pm
Would you be interested in something like that?
Post by: Leafsnail on March 29, 2012, 06:58:25 pm
Post by: Servant Corps on March 29, 2012, 07:35:56 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 29, 2012, 09:27:05 pm
Post by: zombie urist on March 29, 2012, 09:33:37 pm
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on March 29, 2012, 09:50:10 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 29, 2012, 10:33:57 pm
In fact, Servant Corps, I'd be willing to IC your hosting attempt if you want. :P I can't remember - have you hosted other games before?
Post by: Servant Corps on March 29, 2012, 10:53:25 pm
I don't think you could help in balancing "Cybrid Mafia" because while the possible roles are indeed public information, the exact combination of roles are not. For example, you know that Rebels can be soldiers, but you don't know how many Rebel Soldiers they are in the game (or even if they are), etc. So while you could help me balance the game, you would not be able to play, because you have an undue advantage over knowing what roles each team has (even if you don't know who has those roles).
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 29, 2012, 11:04:08 pm
I had also meant more generally, like "This role was intended with this role, and these roles work in conjunction, and these go together" and maybe sharing my choice algorithms, but honestly if you've run that many games you've probably got this stuff down.
Post by: Servant Corps on March 29, 2012, 11:19:07 pm
All the games I ran were long ago, I've been very inactive in the Bay12 Mafia community.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 02, 2012, 11:47:08 am
Meph, I've really been wanting to run a 2-host game setup of some sort. Either two split interacting games, or with mechanics that can only be handled by two hosts. I've got a couple ideas.
Would you be interested in something like that?
Possibly. Certainly happy to talk about ideas and see if they go anywhere, at least.
Post by: GlyphGryph on April 02, 2012, 12:06:05 pm
I was thinking of running to interacting Politibastards though. Similar rulesets, but set in a year with no incumbent, and smaller groups (5 or 7)in each primary.
Though... a double game of Paranormal has the potential to be pretty sweet. But maybe it would be better to do something original, hmm...
I'll like over my idea list if I get time at home not sleeping or updating this week.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 02, 2012, 12:40:24 pm
Post by: Toaster on April 05, 2012, 07:41:58 am
Interest check- Roguelike Four or something else?
Post by: Shakerag on April 05, 2012, 08:50:21 am
Post by: TolyK on April 05, 2012, 09:06:37 am
We can talk about it. I have an idea for an interesting Super-computer based Mafia game (as in, the players are all AIs). Could be interesting to come up with a dual-game version of that.I don't have enough time sinks.
Also, WTF happened to Vote Mafia?
Post by: Dariush on April 05, 2012, 09:08:32 am
Also, WTF happened to Vote Mafia?It's been in a night phase for a bit longer than usual.
Post by: Shakerag on April 05, 2012, 09:55:06 am
Also, WTF happened to Vote Mafia?It's been in a night phase for a bit longer than usual.
I'm actually a tiny bit worried as to what happened. Webadict's profile says he was last active "March 19, 2012, 09:47:15 pm". And penngo (who is his brother, right?) hasn't been around since the 24th.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 05, 2012, 10:28:29 am
Post by: Dariush on April 05, 2012, 11:18:48 am
penngo (who is his brother, right?)Wait what.
Post by: TolyK on April 05, 2012, 11:24:04 am
My reaction.penngo (who is his brother, right?)Wait what.
Because going by that logic Pandar's also. And SirBayer. And other folks.
...
Post by: Shakerag on April 05, 2012, 11:39:02 am
penngo (who is his brother, right?)Wait what.
Well, I thought that was the case. This (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=103114.msg3069064#msg3069064) and this (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=103070.msg3063998#msg3063998) made me think so.
EDIT: To clarify, the second link states penngo's brother got him playing again, and in the first link he's stating knowledge that webadict will be posting to some degree later that day.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 05, 2012, 12:56:18 pm
Post by: Powder Miner on April 05, 2012, 01:07:11 pm
...I need some BY O/E R/P action, even if I'm hosting it
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on April 05, 2012, 02:11:13 pm
Post by: Powder Miner on April 05, 2012, 02:14:33 pm
Post by: Toaster on April 05, 2012, 02:53:07 pm
Toaster, should I host BSER 2 now or are you planning on hosting BYOP 2?
...I need some BY O/E R/P action, even if I'm hosting it
What? Oh- you misunderstood me. I'd rather play a BYOP than another BSER. You host whichever you want.
Post by: Powder Miner on April 05, 2012, 03:56:01 pm
Ok, that's way better.
I'm definitely going to host BYOP 2 but I'm going to have to mull over what I'm going to use as the flavor for a bit. I think I'm getting an idea n wait I have it pretty much LET'S DO THIS LEEEEEEROOOOOYYYYYYYY
Post by: ToonyMan on April 07, 2012, 02:38:55 am
Post by: Toaster on April 08, 2012, 09:45:19 pm
Post by: webadict on May 03, 2012, 07:16:55 pm
Where's Webadict?? I hope he's alright.Eh. I've been better.
Sorry for pulling a dakarian, but apparently, I was neglecting too many things, and I figured this would be the best one to remove completely. And while I could have at least given a warning, I really didn't feel well enough to do that.
I'm not gonna bother hosting games anymore because every time I do, I get sidetracked or bored or shot in the foot or what have you. So, at least I can play a game normally. Especially with the end of finals.
Again, sorry for crap. My bad.
Post by: Toaster on May 03, 2012, 08:43:32 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on May 03, 2012, 09:04:19 pm
Welcome back! Glad to see you're not dead.
Indeed!
And I have some openings in Supernatural 5 if you want to join a game.
Post by: webadict on May 03, 2012, 09:29:55 pm
Welcome back! Glad to see you're not dead.Eh. You can't kill me forever.
Hmm...Welcome back! Glad to see you're not dead.
Indeed!
And I have some openings in Supernatural 5 if you want to join a game.
I suppose I can try.
Post by: Heliman on May 05, 2012, 05:43:08 pm
Or was it that I never really started being here...
At any rate, I have spare time over the summer and I'm going to be doing mafia again. I'm getting a crash course in a newbie mafia over at mafia scum atm because our newbie mafia is full; afterwards I'll see if I can tussle with you fine gentlemen.
Post by: webadict on May 05, 2012, 07:02:10 pm
I also am coming back.*three years later*
Or was it that I never really started being here...
At any rate, I have spare time over the summer and I'm going to be doing mafia again. I'm getting a crash course in a newbie mafia over at mafia scum atm because our newbie mafia is full; afterwards I'll see if I can tussle with you fine gentlemen.
Post by: Heliman on May 05, 2012, 07:20:02 pm
Post by: Dariush on May 06, 2012, 06:27:20 am
JOIN US. YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO.
Post by: TolyK on May 06, 2012, 06:33:57 am
I also am coming back.You. Welcome back!
Or was it that I never really started being here...
At any rate, I have spare time over the summer and I'm going to be doing mafia again. I'm getting a crash course in a newbie mafia over at mafia scum atm because our newbie mafia is full; afterwards I'll see if I can tussle with you fine gentlemen.
And come back to N@W...
Post by: Toaster on May 06, 2012, 07:56:42 pm
Post by: Heliman on May 07, 2012, 05:03:02 am
... At least, I shouldn't. I can't remember ANY of the scumtells I used to use regylarly and that little pit of fakerage I used to stoke my irons in is all but nil. Nope, beginnies mafia is for me, so I can get my Heli-swagger back.
Post by: Dariush on May 07, 2012, 05:08:02 am
Post by: Vector on May 11, 2012, 08:23:03 pm
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on May 11, 2012, 08:26:17 pm
Also, I'm planning to run a semi-bastardish Super Mafia Bros. game once the current ones are done.
Post by: Toaster on May 11, 2012, 08:27:30 pm
Post by: Vector on May 11, 2012, 08:29:06 pm
I might also do a replace, but I'm not too sure--I'm kinda wiped at the moment.
(The bread is Russian hospitality bread, for those who aren't familiar with it)
Post by: IronyOwl on May 11, 2012, 09:03:39 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on May 11, 2012, 09:54:38 pm
Post by: Dariush on May 15, 2012, 01:51:18 am
Also join my game.
Post by: Supercharazad on May 24, 2012, 04:10:15 pm
Post by: webadict on May 24, 2012, 05:08:39 pm
Hmm, thinking of doing a bastard game at some point in the near future. When would be a good time to do this?Probably not now.
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 25, 2012, 10:03:38 am
I'm already building the scenario in my mind.
Post by: Bookthras on May 25, 2012, 10:08:25 am
Post by: Dariush on May 25, 2012, 10:14:50 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 25, 2012, 10:19:48 am
Very Good Worms?
Post by: Hapah on May 25, 2012, 10:20:30 am
PPE: Viscous Growling Wombats?
Post by: Dariush on May 25, 2012, 10:21:44 am
Post by: Bookthras on May 25, 2012, 10:27:29 am
Never played it, but I'm not opposed to noobin' it up!
You'll like it I'm sure, and you'll do great. It's not a simple game, but neither was RL4. Read the old ones if you get a chance. (links inside the spoilers in this (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=103314.msg3055272#msg3055272) post.)
And also, do post on the RL4 thread when you've read the dead/scum chats and if you have any further thoughts! That was a fun game!
[nightmarefuel]Vivisection Foments Sodomy![/nightmarefuel]
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 25, 2012, 10:33:44 am
Post by: Bookthras on May 25, 2012, 10:40:37 am
...don't look at the Venom Gartered Wench!
Post by: TolyK on May 26, 2012, 04:39:03 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 26, 2012, 05:04:31 pm
More seriously, any types of mafia we need run lately?
Post by: Dariush on May 27, 2012, 02:44:38 am
More seriously, any types of mafia we need run lately?Neruz-style batshit-crazy bastard. I've wanted to participate in one ever since joining this board, but the closest we've gotten there was dumbfuckstupid Kill Webadict Now. :'(
Post by: IronyOwl on May 27, 2012, 02:54:55 am
I'll second this. I wanna vote someone and be handed a trout, lynch someone and have the mod gain split personalities, and get lynched by saying the word "spinach" too often.More seriously, any types of mafia we need run lately?Neruz-style batshit-crazy bastard. I've wanted to participate in one ever since joining this board, but the closest we've gotten there was dumbfuckstupid Kill Webadict Now. :'(
Post by: TolyK on May 27, 2012, 02:58:11 am
I'd in.
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on May 27, 2012, 11:43:21 am
-medibot
I also want a batshit crazy game.
Post by: Supercharazad on May 27, 2012, 02:51:36 pm
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on May 27, 2012, 03:05:01 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on May 27, 2012, 04:10:36 pm
Post by: Hapah on May 30, 2012, 12:07:33 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on May 30, 2012, 04:12:31 pm
Post by: Hapah on May 30, 2012, 04:48:27 pm
Post by: Supercharazad on June 03, 2012, 05:07:59 am
Post by: Toaster on June 04, 2012, 12:25:42 pm
I know Toaster tried to run one a while back, but there just wasn't much interest. There was a lot of interest where there was any, but it still just wasn't enough people for a full game.
It was also a hammers only game, so that may not count as much.
Super: I'd say go for it, since nothing else is in signups.
Post by: lordnincompoop on June 10, 2012, 10:23:13 am
Didn't think so. I'll just cut to the point - now that I've more time than I know what to do with (oh boy will I ever regret saying that), I'd like to run another Mafia game here. Closed setup, 11-13 people, historical background (well, some) and ample flavourtext for those who enjoy it, and though it's not exactly craazy in the WWYDT Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=75894.0) sense, there's enough to keep you on your toes. Would there be any interest?
Post by: Dariush on June 10, 2012, 10:57:54 am
Okay, I got carried away a bit there. Nevermind.
Post by: TolyK on June 10, 2012, 12:11:31 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on June 10, 2012, 01:47:31 pm
Hello, there. Did anyone miss me?
Didn't think so. I'll just cut to the point - now that I've more time than I know what to do with (oh boy will I ever regret saying that), I'd like to run another Mafia game here. Closed setup, 11-13 people, historical background (well, some) and ample flavourtext for those who enjoy it, and though it's not exactly craazy in the WWYDT Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=75894.0) sense, there's enough to keep you on your toes. Would there be any interest?
I'd be interested. Also, I think it would be reasonable to hope nothing is as crazy as WWYDT:AMM.
Ever.
Again.
Post by: Toaster on June 10, 2012, 10:46:01 pm
Post by: lordnincompoop on June 11, 2012, 02:59:08 am
I'll put it up in a week or so, when I'm done with the prep, now that I know it's a worthwhile pursuit. I don't want to string everyone up like I did with earlier gaames.
Post by: Toaster on June 11, 2012, 09:13:12 am
Post by: Think0028 on June 12, 2012, 05:37:17 pm
Post by: webadict on June 13, 2012, 08:43:24 pm
Post by: Hapah on June 13, 2012, 09:46:12 pm
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on June 14, 2012, 01:37:53 am
Also I'd be up for that.
Post by: Hapah on June 14, 2012, 09:42:05 am
But sure, I'd be willing to play a new game.
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on June 14, 2012, 11:59:59 am
Quote from: Hapah
Wikipedia briefly told me that Charlie Sheen was half man, half cocaine.Welcome to my signature.
Post by: Hapah on June 14, 2012, 12:10:14 pm
Post by: webadict on June 14, 2012, 12:58:52 pm
It's at irc.newnet.net in channel #dicebot.
If you don't know how to operate IRC clients, I'll gladly help out.
Post by: webadict on June 14, 2012, 01:55:12 pm
Post by: webadict on June 14, 2012, 02:37:53 pm
Post by: webadict on June 14, 2012, 06:57:22 pm
DiceBot up.
Post by: webadict on June 15, 2012, 07:43:58 pm
Post by: Hapah on June 15, 2012, 08:06:34 pm
Post by: webadict on June 16, 2012, 10:44:45 am
I'd n00b it up, sure.You're actually pretty good at this game.
Post by: TolyK on June 16, 2012, 11:40:51 am
At least in scumhunting. :P
Post by: Tiruin on June 16, 2012, 12:21:41 pm
Humility, I like it already.I'd n00b it up, sure.You're actually pretty good at this game.
Whereas I, would perfectly do what Hapah said, based on my performance rate in all non-BM games...I'm up for that game if you accept.
Post by: webadict on June 16, 2012, 12:45:24 pm
Currently Online, sir. Feel free to join.Humility, I like it already.I'd n00b it up, sure.You're actually pretty good at this game.
Whereas I, would perfectly do what Hapah said, based on my performance rate in all non-BM games...I'm up for that game if you accept.
Post by: webadict on June 17, 2012, 01:56:27 pm
Post by: Dariush on June 18, 2012, 01:46:46 am
Post by: Bookthras on June 18, 2012, 06:04:41 am
While I would like the mod's response to some recent posts, like [1] (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=80808.msg3346118#msg3346118), [2] (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=80808.msg3332944#msg3332944), regardless of answers or lack thereof, I think a new roguelike game would be a terrific opportunity for me to crack open these bottles that arrived through the mail.
What do you say?
Post by: Shakerag on June 18, 2012, 10:32:32 am
Post by: Dariush on June 18, 2012, 10:52:07 am
So, holy shit, Darvi isn't actually dead. Good thing I didn't put money down on that.Damn, he isn't dead after lynching me in RL3 for saying 'won't' instead of 'wouldn't'. A shame.
Post by: webadict on June 22, 2012, 11:45:45 pm
Post by: TolyK on June 26, 2012, 08:15:52 am
Post by: Hapah on June 26, 2012, 08:56:40 am
Post by: Mephansteras on June 26, 2012, 11:09:28 am
Post by: RedWarrior0 on June 29, 2012, 07:22:14 pm
So, holy shit, Darvi isn't actually dead. Good thing I didn't put money down on that.Dakarian, on the other hand...
Post by: webadict on June 29, 2012, 07:25:19 pm
I think they're still looking for his body.So, holy shit, Darvi isn't actually dead. Good thing I didn't put money down on that.Dakarian, on the other hand...
...Not that I know anything about the current ongoing investigation. Or even care about what potential evidence police have recovered. I didn't lose a shoe. THAT'S NOT MY SHOE!
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on June 29, 2012, 07:51:10 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on July 19, 2012, 05:23:13 pm
Post by: Toaster on July 19, 2012, 09:31:39 pm
... or missing.
All the other mods hosting all the other games?
Really, it's awfully quiet here.
Post by: webadict on July 19, 2012, 09:42:08 pm
I'd love to make roles, but I can't run a game.... or missing.
All the other mods hosting all the other games?
Really, it's awfully quiet here.
Post by: Phantom of The Library on July 19, 2012, 09:49:26 pm
I'd love to make roles, but I can't run a game.... or missing.
All the other mods hosting all the other games?
Really, it's awfully quiet here.
After I run the next BM I'd be more than happy to mod a role set-up made by you for practice and experience.
If you don't mind a green mod running your game that is.
Post by: webadict on July 19, 2012, 10:36:37 pm
I don't mind at all. I'd rather like it. Now, it depends on what type of game you'd like to run, though.I'd love to make roles, but I can't run a game.... or missing.
All the other mods hosting all the other games?
Really, it's awfully quiet here.
After I run the next BM I'd be more than happy to mod a role set-up made by you for practice and experience.
If you don't mind a green mod running your game that is.
Post by: Phantom of The Library on July 19, 2012, 11:10:51 pm
It's been a while since we had a Dwarf Fortress mafia, and a lot of features have been added since the last one so there's plenty of material there.
Post by: webadict on July 20, 2012, 09:44:00 am
I'd be fine with pretty much anything, something around a medium complexity would be nice, but really whatever you feel like making.I shall begin planning immediately.
It's been a while since we had a Dwarf Fortress mafia, and a lot of features have been added since the last one so there's plenty of material there.
Post by: Dariush on July 20, 2012, 10:07:29 am
Post by: webadict on July 20, 2012, 10:08:37 am
Revolver Mafia is still open and, for some reason, lacking such distinguished people as Jim and Bookthras and three people in general. >_>Spoiler alert.
Everyone dies.
Post by: Bookthras on August 04, 2012, 09:31:36 am
SCENE: Earth. Imperial Palace. Emperor Solomon Petresun addresses his court:
Gentlemen, ladies, our instruments have detected an enormous deposit of ununoctium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ununoctium) on the southern hemisphere of ④Vesta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4_Vesta). It shouldn't be there. Our science advisors tell us that either there was an unknown recent event that formed it, or an ongoing unknown process that preserves it.
We must have it.
Deciphering the event or the process involved would greatly expand our understanding of the physics involved, which will inevitably improve our technology, and the ununoctonium itself will be greatly useful to our industry.
You will work to launch a scientific expedition to ④Vesta at once, to investigate, harvest, control, and report. Make sure they are safe of infection from any Cybrid glitches on launch or transit, and most of all, ensure that they don't end up marooned (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marooned_Off_Vesta) off that damned rock.
Heh. Short version: I helped mod a game recently, and I liked it. I couldn't help but realise it has been a very long time since I tried to host a game (my one and only (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=71786.msg1760552#msg1760552) game ended with a TPK (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=71786.msg1771272#msg1771272) due to lurking. I dislike lurkers). Also, it's now a month since GlyphGryph decided to search greener pastures elsewhere (and we miss him dearly). Given I'm the bloody Emperor, mate (basically, I rule), and that GG was cool with people running games with his open setup, and we don't have many games in signups, I'd perhaps like to try to do that again. I propose to run Cybrid Mafia VI - Marooned Off Vesta.
If anyone objects, please say so. Otherwise I'll put it up for signups once one of the two larger games going on (RL5, P21) starts to wind down, in a week or two.
Assuming it goes ahead, it will be a standard Cybrid open setup: Imperials, Rebels, a Cybrid glitch or two, some Officers, no survivors, no emperors, no double agents, no real surprises. I'd like the setup itself to be as predictable as possible, with the fun coming from the players and the flavour. I'll clean up and re-post the rules/roles when the time comes.
Let me know of interest, ideas, objections, predictions of doom, or anything else.
Post by: Phantom of The Library on August 04, 2012, 12:43:30 pm
Post by: Tiruin on August 04, 2012, 12:53:39 pm
Interested, but I won't be joining anything more for another few weeks.Until you post the thread itself.
Post by: Dariush on August 04, 2012, 12:58:35 pm
Post by: Toaster on August 04, 2012, 08:42:34 pm
Let me know of interest, ideas, objections, predictions of doom, or anything else.
I am interested.
Post by: Hapah on August 04, 2012, 09:25:43 pm
Post by: Dustylou2 on August 04, 2012, 09:59:19 pm
Post by: zombie urist on August 05, 2012, 04:05:29 pm
Post by: Toaster on August 06, 2012, 08:47:33 am
Any requests? Roguelike Mafia 6 is always an option, or I could do some other gametype.
Post by: Tiruin on August 06, 2012, 08:52:08 am
Roguelikes are a trending fad, now.
Post by: Hapah on August 06, 2012, 08:59:55 am
(Or whatever you want to host, really. But I do enjoy Roguelike.)
Post by: Bookthras on August 06, 2012, 09:17:19 am
ETA: or did you have something else in mind? Not hammertime, please (I'm not a fan), or salad unless you feel really pun-inspired and it's a role-heavy type. Anything else in your repertoire? Would you like to run a Vengeful? (I'd play it, but I have very little patience for lurkers on Vengefuls) Or something else?
Post by: Dariush on August 06, 2012, 09:17:53 am
Roguelike Mafia 5 has ended, and I wouldn't mind putting up another game.Something else. RLs are too mainstream. Moreover, Book likes them, which by itself makes them something to be avoided.
Any requests? Roguelike Mafia 6 is always an option, or I could do some other gametype.
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on August 06, 2012, 09:54:12 am
Post by: Toaster on August 06, 2012, 09:59:25 am
For those that played it, how'd you think I did with the roles from BYOP?
Post by: Shakerag on August 06, 2012, 10:26:35 am
Post by: Dariush on August 06, 2012, 10:46:21 am
IMO too bloated.So no.So everyone gets a random element (night ability), a random tool (one-shot), and a random personal ability/trait (auto ability).Specifically this. Your whole idea is basically contained in the above sentence, the rest being flavored water.
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on August 06, 2012, 11:09:59 am
It has been a while since a BYOR.The multikill was sort of ridiculous, but at least you didn't let them shoot web N1.
For those that played it, how'd you think I did with the roles from BYOP?
Post by: Dariush on August 06, 2012, 11:21:11 am
The multikill was sort of ridiculous, but at least you didn't let them shoot web N1.I shot Wuba and I'm proud of it.
Post by: Shakerag on August 06, 2012, 11:33:50 am
Coming from a person with pretty ... interesting ideas for games himself. :-/IMO too bloated.So no.So everyone gets a random element (night ability), a random tool (one-shot), and a random personal ability/trait (auto ability).Specifically this. Your whole idea is basically contained in the above sentence, the rest being flavored water.
Post by: Dariush on August 06, 2012, 11:50:17 am
Post by: webadict on August 06, 2012, 12:12:50 pm
Nothing wrong with that. It's just a random version of most BYORs. Doesn't sound bad to me.IMO too bloated.So no.So everyone gets a random element (night ability), a random tool (one-shot), and a random personal ability/trait (auto ability).Specifically this. Your whole idea is basically contained in the above sentence, the rest being flavored water.
It has been a while since a BYOR.You know what? I'll run a BYOR. Happy, guys?
For those that played it, how'd you think I did with the roles from BYOP?
Post by: Dariush on August 06, 2012, 12:23:42 pm
Happy, guys?No. Mostly because of how RL5 turned out and how much an asshole Book is, but still no.
Post by: Toaster on August 06, 2012, 12:50:31 pm
It has been a while since a BYOR.You know what? I'll run a BYOR. Happy, guys?
For those that played it, how'd you think I did with the roles from BYOP?
I am indeed happy.
Happy, guys?No. Mostly because of how RL5 turned out and how much an asshole Book is, but still no.
/wrist
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on August 06, 2012, 01:09:59 pm
Orangebottle would have killed like half the game in that one action.The multikill was sort of ridiculous, but at least you didn't let them shoot web N1.I shot Wuba and I'm proud of it.
Post by: webadict on August 06, 2012, 01:38:41 pm
That's why I wanted to.Orangebottle would have killed like half the game in that one action.The multikill was sort of ridiculous, but at least you didn't let them shoot web N1.I shot Wuba and I'm proud of it.
:( I never get my way.
Post by: Toaster on August 06, 2012, 01:39:28 pm
It would have killed the town doc, cop, watcher, roleblocker mason, and the picture cop who killed him that night.
To be fair, OB did nuke four people anyway.
Post by: Dariush on August 06, 2012, 01:43:24 pm
Post by: Toaster on August 06, 2012, 01:47:10 pm
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on August 06, 2012, 02:22:32 pm
Also, I protected the Doomspeaker SK like a bitch.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 06, 2012, 02:53:22 pm
Post by: webadict on August 06, 2012, 04:53:22 pm
I used my plasma bomb N1 on Webadict in Paranormal 15. It hit nobody else. I think that was the only time I've been exty too. And then Leafsnail was a dopp war vet and I died Night 2 with him...that sucked.It was a trap.
Post by: Bookthras on August 09, 2012, 06:59:43 am
Post by: Dariush on August 09, 2012, 07:06:05 am
Post by: Bookthras on August 09, 2012, 07:11:09 am
I still want to run Cybrid VI eventually, but it doesn't seem to be the right time for a largish game to start. How would people feel about me running a short and quick Vengeful Mafia game?
For those unfamiliar, Vengeful is a five-player game with emphasis on activity and day-game skills.
There are three town, two scum. Lynch the Godfather and you instawin! Lynch the mafioso, and you've made good progress. Mislynch a townie D1, and he becomes Vengeful: he gets an instant revenge kill on someone of their choosing. There is no nightkill. Hell, there is no night at all. It's all about the day play.
There have been several of these, and many have been a lot of fun, but with so few players they are very vulnerable to people lurking or dicking around instead of trying to find the scum or screw the town. Lurking will not be tolerated.
Some earlier Vengeful games of note:
VM1: (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=67453.0) The original. First of many "Vengekill Pandarsenic" games.
VM2: (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=68141.0) The very best! But only because I won... my first ever scum game with the best scumbuddy.
VM4: (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=69398.0) First Vengeful town win, with a lovely lynch of webadict.
There were some failures too: VM5 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=71786.0) & VM9 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=92878.0) died of lurking (differently handled, but just as dead).
Would there be objections to Vengeful X going into signups? Is it a good time for it?
Ideas would be welcome for how to preemptively avoid death by lurking for these...
Post by: Dariush on August 09, 2012, 07:52:49 am
Post by: Bookthras on August 09, 2012, 08:01:31 am
Post by: Dariush on August 09, 2012, 08:40:55 am
Post by: blackmagechill on August 11, 2012, 09:10:17 am
Post by: Dariush on August 14, 2012, 04:48:55 am
Maybe it's Bastard Supernatural time?
Post by: Mephansteras on August 14, 2012, 12:56:57 pm
Anyone else have a preference on what I run next?
Post by: Hapah on August 14, 2012, 01:09:16 pm
Post by: Bookthras on August 14, 2012, 01:14:39 pm
Post by: Dariush on August 14, 2012, 01:16:41 pm
Post by: Bookthras on August 14, 2012, 01:47:13 pm
Post by: Toaster on August 14, 2012, 03:43:52 pm
Post by: IronyOwl on August 14, 2012, 03:47:59 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on August 14, 2012, 03:53:13 pm
Which is a shame, since I like the unusual aspects of that game. Even if it doesn't balance too well yet.
Post by: Toaster on August 14, 2012, 03:56:15 pm
I'd love another Sorcerer's Apprentice, though. Where'd Janus run off to?
Post by: Leafsnail on August 14, 2012, 10:30:12 pm
Post by: Bookthras on August 14, 2012, 10:52:43 pm
Wizard Duel as it was also seemed very pro-scum, the numbers would probably need adjusting.
Speaking of new games, we rejoice to see your Majesty back from holiday. Were those swarthy barbarians properly awed at the regal presence of the King of the Mafia? Now that we are graced with your august attention again, how would a new KotM game fit within the royal schedule?
Post by: Leafsnail on August 14, 2012, 11:38:17 pm
Anyone else interested?
Post by: Dariush on August 15, 2012, 07:09:06 am
Post by: Jim Groovester on August 15, 2012, 07:26:36 am
This makes the lynch dubiously useful to the town, and there aren't that many useful roles otherwise to balance it out.
If we're talking about fun Meph games, another Totem Mafia would be wicked awesome too.
Post by: Dariush on August 15, 2012, 09:40:21 am
If we're talking about fun Meph games, another Totem Mafia would be wicked awesome too.TM was too basic. A BYOR with restricted choices (animals only) and only one ability per role? Uh, no. I still vote for a Supernatural, preferably a bastard one.
Post by: Mephansteras on August 16, 2012, 11:51:08 am
So I'm going to have to figure out a new system for running games. I still have PMs through the board, which is good, but might get a bit clunky for actually running a game's log and whatnot.
Post by: Dariush on August 16, 2012, 12:01:07 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on August 16, 2012, 01:02:26 pm
Uh... carry them around with you on a flash drive?
Can't even do that. The computers have encrypted drives, so they'd encrypt any flash drive I stuck in.
Banks are a bit stringent on data control.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 16, 2012, 01:27:54 pm
Post by: Toaster on August 16, 2012, 01:30:51 pm
What do you really need to get to all the documents for besides processing nights/day ends? You could just vote count manually- everything else should be find except for the occasional oddball daykill or something.
Post by: Mephansteras on August 16, 2012, 01:35:19 pm
Not saying this is going to prevent me from running games, just letting people know that it might be less efficient on my end.
Post by: Shakerag on August 16, 2012, 01:52:44 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on August 16, 2012, 01:55:12 pm
This might be a radical concept, but ... pencil and a notebook?
That would require me to read my own handwriting. :P
But having a printout wouldn't be a bad idea.
Post by: Bookthras on August 17, 2012, 02:59:28 am
Not saying this is going to prevent me from running games, just letting people know that it might be less efficient on my end.
It sounds awful and restrictive, but your audience is ready to put up with it if you are. It may be a bit slow or cumbersome, but that will not deter us -- you know that. We'll follow you into fire!
I hope you figure out the specifics soon (including the things about the bomb and the double and the bot and whatnot; some options are posted, but it's your call what's good and what's not or if you'd like new ideas); we'll be here.
In the mean time, some thoughts:
Post by: Bookthras on August 17, 2012, 03:06:19 am
a) Dariush is right, I will abandon for now the idea of a Vengeful game (they are fun, but lurking is murder on them, so it may not be the time).
b) I will put any idea on hold as soon as Meph is ready with P22 (or whatever); it would be lots more fun, and I'd much rather play that than run a thing.
c) I think Cybrid VI (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=45016.msg3500376#msg3500376) would be a fun setup, for a ten-or-so player game.
d) or...
...I'm also thinking about trying my clumsy feet onto JanusTwoface's big ugly shoes, and try to run a Sorcerer's Apprentice game. For those unfamiliar, it's a standard town+mafia 9 or 12p game with three power roles (in my version, scum is guaranteed one Sorcerer), where the power roles become more and more powerful with the support of the players. You support a school of magic (colour) via PM to the Mod, and that sorcerer's powers increase for the night. Previous games: [ I ] (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=68920.0) [ II ] (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=70481.0) [ III ] (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=74796.0)
A problem in earlier Sorcerer's Apprentice games was to entice all players to support something (most players just "forgot" or neglected to support). Some options to entice them were tried, with varying success. I propose that people can't vote until they have supported a school of magic. They can post in red, but it won't actually be counted until they've PM'd their support for a colour. They can change this at any time during the day phase, and can support dead or absent sorcerers/colours. There may be a small "perk" or bonus gained by supporting a given school.
These games have been in the past also the ones with limericks, which have been endless fun, but have nothing to do with the actual game. An advantage of me running it instead of playing it is that I'll limit the limericks to the game flavour.
Tim Blue's Academy's murderer
was surrounded by many a perjurer.
The deeds done were tragic,
so an Apprentice, with magic,
must lynch the responsible Sorcerer.
So how 'bout Sorcerer's Apprentice IV? Anyone interested? Would this be a better or worse idea than Cybrid VI?
Post by: Dariush on August 17, 2012, 03:55:17 am
And I totally support a SA. The last one was hilarious.
Everyone: "Dariush is obvscum! Lynch him!"
Me: "Fuck no! Jim is obvscum, even though actually he is obvtown!"
Everyone: "Fuck no!"
Dariush is lynched! He was scum!
Everyone: "Jim is obvscum, Dariush was bussing him way too hard!"
Jim: "Fuck no!"
Jim is lynched! He was town! Scum wins!
Me: "Yay!"
Jim: "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU"
Post by: Jim Groovester on August 17, 2012, 04:37:20 am
Talk about a series of games where the town snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
A problem in earlier Sorcerer's Apprentice games was to entice all players to support something (most players just "forgot" or neglected to support). Some options to entice them were tried, with varying success. I propose that people can't vote until they have supported a school of magic. They can post in red, but it won't actually be counted until they've PM'd their support for a colour. They can change this at any time during the day phase, and can support dead or absent sorcerers/colours. There may be a small "perk" or bonus gained by supporting a given school.
Making assists compulsory (since that's effectively what you're doing) is not a good idea; consider a situation where all the town sorcerers get knocked off early. The town has no reason to assist the scum sorcerer but is forced to to lynch people they find scummy.
The problem was more or less solved by the players urging everyone to make sure to cast their assists, and if they didn't then they sucked and were horrible people. The only reason it was a problem in the first one is because nobody really knew what they were doing.
So how 'bout Sorcerer's Apprentice IV? Anyone interested? Would this be a better or worse idea than Cybrid VI?
I'd go for either.
Post by: Bookthras on August 17, 2012, 05:20:08 am
Making assists compulsory (since that's effectively what you're doing) is not a good idea; consider a situation where all the town sorcerers get knocked off early. The town has no reason to assist the scum sorcerer but is forced to to lynch people they find scummy.
Yeah, to solve that I added the option to support "dead or absent" schools; say there are purple, blue, and red, first two of which died and flipped town, no townie would support red, but they can support yellow or green (absent) or even the dead purple or blue, any of which would give them a vote, a perk or small bonus (different for each colour), and would not support the leftover known scum school.
Townies will always have a safe support school, guaranteed non-scum (but if absent, won't help town PRs). The only bad move is not to send anything, in which case, they get no bonus, and their vote doesn't count.
...does that sound too bad? I like the compulsory thing -- it forces players to be at least somewhat engaged; requiring them to send at least one PM during the day doesn't sound too onerous, does it? Or should they be allowed to "forget" and vote and get no bonus and lurk through the day with no consequences?
Post by: Dariush on August 17, 2012, 05:37:16 am
...does that sound too bad? I like the compulsory thing -- it forces players to be at least somewhat engaged; requiring them to send at least one PM during the day doesn't sound too onerous, does it? Or should they be allowed to "forget" and vote and get no bonus and lurk through the day with no consequences?Players aren't monkeys. The whole 'support dead school' is dumbfuckstupid both from gameplay and flavor standpoint. If you can't host a game with a tested set of rules that proved to be good without fucking with them, don't host.
Post by: Bookthras on August 17, 2012, 05:51:18 am
But in your view: if all town Sorcerers are dead, should townies choose "none"? Or if there is a known safe "turquoise" school known non-scum that'd give them a bonus, shouldn't they choose that instead? Or is your point that the rules are immutable? (in which case I'd point out that rules changed between each game already, trying to solve precisely this problem.)
In any case, I'm not married to the vote restriction thing; I think it would be good, and encourage players to be engaged in the game, and a penalty (or lack of a bonus, like last game) should be assessed for failing to assist. But there are several ways to achieve that. We'll see.
Post by: Dariush on August 17, 2012, 06:21:59 am
Post by: webadict on August 17, 2012, 06:43:10 am
You're mixing up SAMafias I & III. I was lynched in SAM I, in SAM III you made that terribly obvious fakeclaim.Wanna talk about a game where defeat was snatched? How about the Paranormal game where I literally killed/found every scum member.
Talk about a series of games where the town snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
First Night, Vector advanced dopps a War Vet, but is also shot by me. Regardless, she's dead. Woo. What basically happens is I get a small town base of Nerux and I, and PROVE Leafsnail is scum. Kashyyk gets lynched though, so at Night, I figure, hey, it somehow became lylo. Kill Pandarsenic.
Pandarsenic flips scum. I get killed.
Well, well, well. Three townies that ALL know Leafsnail is scum.
They decide on a No Lynch. Because, seriously, there are NO LYLO BREAKERS IN THE ENTIRE GAME.
GUESS WHAT? LEAFSNAIL IS A DOUBLE VOTER. OOOOOOOOOO RIIIIIIIIGHT. I FORGET HOW UTTERLY STUPID THE TOWN IS. THEY CAN'T LYNCH PROVEN SCUM TO SAVE THEIR LIVES!
If you play so passive, one scum idea is going to make you do whatever they want. It's sickening.
Post by: Jim Groovester on August 17, 2012, 06:48:44 am
I like the compulsory thing
I hate it. It doesn't add anything to the game and it's obnoxious and intrusive. I would veto it on those grounds alone.
Also a general question: how would this game be better or worse if PMs were allowed between players (cc:Mod) like in a Paranormal?Never mind, it'd probably make the support thing too complicated and scum-unfriendly -- unless someone tells me otherwise I'll just default to no-PMs like most games.
PMs were already allowed between players. I wouldn't change that rule.
It's not a rule that came into play in SAM I, but it was a notable (if unsuccessful) part of SAM II. I don't think it came into play in SAM III.
Having power roles powered by town assistance is just begging for organization to happen, and it's basically impossible to do that without PMs.
Post by: Bookthras on August 17, 2012, 07:25:30 am
Post by: Leafsnail on August 17, 2012, 08:39:36 am
Well, well, well. Three townies that ALL know Leafsnail is scum.It's my 50% unlynchable power.
They decide on a No Lynch. Because, seriously, there are NO LYLO BREAKERS IN THE ENTIRE GAME.
GUESS WHAT? LEAFSNAIL IS A DOUBLE VOTER. OOOOOOOOOO RIIIIIIIIGHT. I FORGET HOW UTTERLY STUPID THE TOWN IS. THEY CAN'T LYNCH PROVEN SCUM TO SAVE THEIR LIVES!
Post by: Dariush on August 17, 2012, 08:52:51 am
We'll figure some other way to encourage engagement.Oooh, I know. 1) Ban all people with a steady history of lurking/abandoning games (i.e. Jokerman and TolyK) and anybody without at least one BM completed from entering. 2) Do not start the game without at least one person in replacement queue. Instant profits.
By the way, what happened with that activity tracking table or whatchacallit that Wuba started sometime long ago?
Post by: Nerjin on August 17, 2012, 10:16:56 am
We'll figure some other way to encourage engagement.Oooh, I know. 1) Ban all people with a steady history of lurking/abandoning games (i.e. Jokerman and TolyK) and anybody without at least one BM completed from entering. 2) Do not start the game without at least one person in replacement queue. Instant profits.
By the way, what happened with that activity tracking table or whatchacallit that Wuba started sometime long ago?
I don't like the second part of part 1. I assume BM means Bastard Mafia. I've been looking around here for a bit. I haven't found any currently running games that would allow a first time player [myself] from joining. Usually it's because I haven't found any games not already in progress. I'm trying to learn how to play.
My point is this: Why would you want to block people who haven't done a BM yet? Why not let them learn the ropes through whichever game?
Post by: Hapah on August 17, 2012, 10:23:50 am
Post by: Shakerag on August 17, 2012, 10:24:38 am
Beginner's Mafia.We'll figure some other way to encourage engagement.Oooh, I know. 1) Ban all people with a steady history of lurking/abandoning games (i.e. Jokerman and TolyK) and anybody without at least one BM completed from entering. 2) Do not start the game without at least one person in replacement queue. Instant profits.
By the way, what happened with that activity tracking table or whatchacallit that Wuba started sometime long ago?
I don't like the second part of part 1. I assume BM means Bastard Mafia. I've been looking around here for a bit. I haven't found any currently running games that would allow a first time player [myself] from joining. Usually it's because I haven't found any games not already in progress. I'm trying to learn how to play.
My point is this: Why would you want to block people who haven't done a BM yet? Why not let them learn the ropes through whichever game?
Post by: Nerjin on August 17, 2012, 10:29:20 am
I'd rather do a BM [Beginner's Mafia] before something more hard-core but currently they don't seem to be running. I just want to play the game. Try my hand so to speak. I'm willing to take whatever I can get.
Post by: Phantom of The Library on August 17, 2012, 10:30:36 am
We'll figure some other way to encourage engagement.Oooh, I know. 1) Ban all people with a steady history of lurking/abandoning games (i.e. Jokerman and TolyK) and anybody without at least one BM completed from entering. 2) Do not start the game without at least one person in replacement queue. Instant profits.
By the way, what happened with that activity tracking table or whatchacallit that Wuba started sometime long ago?
I don't like the second part of part 1. I assume BM means Bastard Mafia. I've been looking around here for a bit. I haven't found any currently running games that would allow a first time player [myself] from joining. Usually it's because I haven't found any games not already in progress. I'm trying to learn how to play.
My point is this: Why would you want to block people who haven't done a BM yet? Why not let them learn the ropes through whichever game?
By BM here he means Beginner's Mafia. We almost always have one running for new players to join, and the current one can be found here (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=113813.0). It's about to enter Day Three, so it's most likely going to end soon, but if you want to join the replacement queue, that would be great.
The games are almost always held back-to-back so that new players can hop in at any time.
The reason we want people to play a BM first most of the time is so that they can learn how to play with a little assistance in the most basic and balanced mafia set-up available and don't get lynched Day One for making some silly mistake or in some cases assuming that forum mafia plays the same as real life mafia.
Basically, it's for their own, and the game's good. They get to learn how to play the game without getting eaten alive, and the games don't have an entire day wasted because someone playing their first game makes a ton of mistakes, eliminating any benefit that could have been gained from the lynch.
PPE: Aaaaand double ninjas all across the sky.
PPE X2 COMBO:
Yeah that occurred to me shortly after posting but I know that you're not supposed to edit posts in this section of the forum... Or is that ONLY in the games? Better safe than sorry.It's only in games.
I'd rather do a BM [Beginner's Mafia] before something more hard-core but currently they don't seem to be running. I just want to play the game. Try my hand so to speak. I'm willing to take whatever I can get.
Post by: Nerjin on August 17, 2012, 10:36:01 am
Post by: Toaster on August 17, 2012, 10:55:59 am
Post by: Dariush on August 17, 2012, 11:23:08 am
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on August 17, 2012, 11:24:07 am
I'd play Sorc App, despite SA3 being the single most rage-inducing game I've ever played.Link?
Post by: Toaster on August 17, 2012, 11:37:23 am
Spoiler: Spoiler tag used to hide actual spoilers- holy crap! (click to show/hide)
Post by: Dariush on August 17, 2012, 11:48:19 am
Post by: Mephansteras on August 27, 2012, 05:24:13 pm
Sign ups should start tonight or tomorrow after I hash a few things out.
Post by: Shakerag on August 27, 2012, 05:28:22 pm
Post by: Dariush on August 28, 2012, 04:08:59 am
Post by: Orangebottle on August 29, 2012, 05:08:32 pm
Post by: Org on August 29, 2012, 07:00:53 pm
I've been going through a few ideas but I'm not too sure yet.
Post by: webadict on August 29, 2012, 08:12:41 pm
Speaking of which, does anybody enjoy Liars Dice? I'd enjoy a few rounds if we can arrange a time.
Post by: Leafsnail on August 29, 2012, 08:42:55 pm
For card based mafia I've always envisioned Bring Your Own Cards, whereby you can take a set of any 5 cards to provide yourself with your abilities.
Post by: Toaster on August 29, 2012, 09:22:21 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on August 29, 2012, 09:54:12 pm
Post by: zombie urist on August 29, 2012, 10:02:52 pm
Two standard decks of playing cards will be used. Everyone starts with ~$1000. In the morning, everyone is dealt 2 cards. They play (a simpler version of) blackjack. If you lose all your money you die. Lynch means redistribution of money. You carry these cards into the night, where you can spend $$ to activate cards abilities. Higher value cards have better effects, but cost more $$ to activate. For example, a king might give you an inspect for $500. An ace gives a kill for $1000. A 5 might give you a 50% doc for $150. Everyone also has abilities, such as card switches, etc.
Post by: Dariush on August 30, 2012, 02:29:30 am
They play (a simpler version of) blackjack.Didn't read further. -1.
This is Mafia, not blackjack.
BTW, Wuba, what happened to DOGM? I read the last one and it sounded pretty awesome. Why did you close it down halfway through?
Post by: TolyK on August 30, 2012, 05:56:06 am
I enjoy Liar's Dice.I know exactly what to do :D (MTG)
For card based mafia I've always envisioned Bring Your Own Cards, whereby you can take a set of any 5 cards to provide yourself with your abilities.
Post by: webadict on August 30, 2012, 07:51:19 am
I messed up the rules partway through. After that, I'm pretty sure someone figured out an exploit that would've killed everybody.They play (a simpler version of) blackjack.Didn't read further. -1.
This is Mafia, not blackjack.
BTW, Wuba, what happened to DOGM? I read the last one and it sounded pretty awesome. Why did you close it down halfway through?
Post by: Dariush on August 30, 2012, 07:53:38 am
Post by: Phantom of The Library on August 30, 2012, 01:38:04 pm
Speaking of which, does anybody enjoy Liars Dice? I'd enjoy a few rounds if we can arrange a time.
I enjoy it, I'll need to refresh myself on the rules though. I'm free most Monday mornings and evenings, although not the coming one, Tuesdays are iffy, and most Saturdays and Sundays I'm available all day, although again, not the coming one.
Any of those would be fine. The only rules on it would be "don't make up your own cards just for the purposes of this game" and "don't make it anything I'd get banned for posting".Sounds interesting, I'd be up for it.
I would also recommend having players link to a wiki, almost all card games have one these days. At the very least they should send in an image of the card.
Post by: Hapah on August 30, 2012, 01:47:18 pm
Post by: Toaster on August 30, 2012, 02:17:01 pm
Any of those would be fine. The only rules on it would be "don't make up your own cards just for the purposes of this game" and "don't make it anything I'd get banned for posting".
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=603
http://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=9771
Post by: Leafsnail on August 30, 2012, 06:08:55 pm
Quote from: Sample
Chaos Orb: Play this card at night. Target one player. During the following day, you must vocally change your position (and accompanying vote) on whether that player is town or scum twice. You cannot tell other players you are doing this due to an ability, and if anyone else realises you are then your action is regarded as a failure. If you successfully perform the 360 degree turn your target dies and this card is discarded.
Look at Me, I'm the DCI: Play this card at any time. Send me a name. If cards of that name name are currently LEGAL, they become ILLEGAL. If cards of that name are currently ILLEGAL, they become LEGAL. This card is then discarded.
Post by: Toaster on August 30, 2012, 09:41:06 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on August 30, 2012, 09:47:27 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on August 30, 2012, 10:00:36 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on August 31, 2012, 10:53:01 am
Post by: Toaster on August 31, 2012, 08:47:21 pm
Post by: Orangebottle on August 31, 2012, 10:55:50 pm
I happen to be a frequent player on Dueling Network(yugioh for free over the internet).
B)
Post by: Shakerag on August 31, 2012, 11:10:20 pm
Card was so broken.
Post by: Hapah on August 31, 2012, 11:45:26 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on September 01, 2012, 01:58:41 am
Post by: Shakerag on September 01, 2012, 09:23:33 am
Broken just like your link.Works for me O_o
Post by: Tiruin on September 01, 2012, 09:45:23 am
Broken == Cannot access valuable information.Broken just like your link.Works for me O_o
Quote
Access forbidden!
You don't have permission to access the requested object. It is either read-protected or not readable by the server.
If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster.
Error 403
www.tradecardsonline.com
Apache/2.2.3 (CentOS)
Post by: Dariush on September 01, 2012, 09:53:52 am
Post by: Leafsnail on September 01, 2012, 10:44:41 am
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on September 01, 2012, 11:09:14 am
Post by: Dariush on September 01, 2012, 11:28:01 am
Yeah. If you can give me a link explaining what the card does (probably a video for Touhous) then it's fine.But most of them look pretty much like 'TONS OF SHIT FLYING AT ME' to an... uniniated eye. Are you sure you won't fuck it up, like Wuba did for SBYOR? :)
And on that note, when are you planning to start the game?
Post by: Leafsnail on September 01, 2012, 11:47:31 am
Post by: webadict on September 08, 2012, 03:42:40 pm
I don't screw anything up. I just do it better.Yeah. If you can give me a link explaining what the card does (probably a video for Touhous) then it's fine.But most of them look pretty much like 'TONS OF SHIT FLYING AT ME' to an... uniniated eye. Are you sure you won't fuck it up, like Wuba did for SBYOR? :)
And on that note, when are you planning to start the game?
On that note, anyone want to play Liar's Dice?
Post by: Dariush on September 09, 2012, 03:48:40 am
Quote
Come play Liar's Dice with DiceBot at irc.newnet.net in channel #dicebot! Currently ONLINE!(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6264/d6b2f6152c3d46aebd5731c.png)
You filthy liar.
Post by: webadict on September 09, 2012, 08:35:20 am
Too lazy to change my status sometimes.QuoteCome play Liar's Dice with DiceBot at irc.newnet.net in channel #dicebot! Currently ONLINE!(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6264/d6b2f6152c3d46aebd5731c.png)
You filthy liar.
Post by: Mephansteras on September 18, 2012, 04:59:57 pm
Post by: Dariush on September 19, 2012, 05:49:12 am
When Supernatural is over, what do people think about me running a Bang! style game? I have a few ideas for it.Error: reference not found. Please elaborate.
Post by: Think0028 on September 19, 2012, 10:59:22 am
Post by: Think0028 on September 19, 2012, 10:59:43 am
Post by: Toaster on September 19, 2012, 11:21:31 am
Post by: Mephansteras on September 19, 2012, 11:32:48 am
I'm thinking of doing a version where the players are the Prince and his bodyguards, with some of the bodyguards actually being assassins hired to kill him. Or maybe they're traitors. In any case, it'd be set on a battlefield where the players get in a big fight amongst one another with some players trying to protect the Prince and others kill him.
Post by: Dariush on September 19, 2012, 12:03:43 pm
I'm thinking of doing a version where the players are the Prince and his bodyguards, with some of the bodyguards actually being assassins hired to kill him. Or maybe they're traitors. In any case, it'd be set on a battlefield where the players get in a big fight amongst one another with some players trying to protect the Prince and others kill him.Here's how people saw the above quote:
I'm thinking of doing a version AWESOME YES A NEW MEPH GAME EPIC COOL YAY GO MEPH
Post by: Hapah on September 19, 2012, 12:17:04 pm
PFPI'm thinking of doing a version where the players are the Prince and his bodyguards, with some of the bodyguards actually being assassins hired to kill him. Or maybe they're traitors. In any case, it'd be set on a battlefield where the players get in a big fight amongst one another with some players trying to protect the Prince and others kill him.Here's how people saw the above quote:I'm thinking of doing a version AWESOME YES A NEW MEPH GAME EPIC COOL YAY GO MEPH
That's pretty much true
Post by: Think0028 on September 19, 2012, 01:16:43 pm
[Check] Meph game
[Check] New gametype
[Check] New Meph gametype
Well, that was easy!
Post by: TolyK on September 19, 2012, 02:05:12 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on September 19, 2012, 02:09:25 pm
Staples!
Staples?
Post by: Dariush on September 19, 2012, 02:12:22 pm
...That's the only thing in the thread you decided to comment upon? Really?Staples!Staples?
Post by: Mephansteras on September 19, 2012, 02:14:35 pm
Staples, though...that's a little unclear.
Post by: Think0028 on September 19, 2012, 02:19:07 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on September 19, 2012, 02:20:30 pm
It's an advertising slogan: Staples, that was easy. Staples is an office supply store.
Ah, of course!
Post by: TolyK on September 19, 2012, 02:51:26 pm
Post by: Bookthras on October 01, 2012, 03:12:00 pm
The couple of non-BM games are also winding down, so it seems a good time to put another non-BM game into signups.
As I've said before (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=45016.msg3500376#msg3500376), I'd like to run Cybrid Mafia VI: Marooned Off Vesta. Unless I hear objections, I'll put it into signups as soon as the next BM goes into signups as well (to give a chance for newbies to join that instead of a more complex Cybrid).
SCENE: Earth. Imperial Palace. Emperor Solomon Petresun addresses his court:
Gentlemen, ladies, our instruments have detected an enormous deposit of ununoctium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ununoctium) on the southern hemisphere of ④Vesta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4_Vesta). It shouldn't be there. Our science advisors tell us that either there was an unknown recent event that formed it, or an ongoing unknown process that preserves it.
We must have it.
Deciphering the event or the process involved would greatly expand our understanding of the physics involved, which will inevitably improve our technology, and the ununoctonium itself will be greatly useful to our industry.
You will work to launch a scientific expedition to ④Vesta at once, to investigate, harvest, control, and report. Make sure they are safe of infection from any Cybrid glitches on launch or transit, and most of all, ensure that they don't end up marooned (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marooned_Off_Vesta) off that damned rock.
Assuming it goes ahead, it will be a standard Cybrid open setup: Imperials, Rebels, a Cybrid glitch or two, some Officers, no survivors, no emperors, no double agents, no real surprises. I'd like the setup itself to be as predictable as possible, with the fun coming from the players and the flavour.
Let me know of ideas, objections, predictions of doom, or anything else.
Post by: Hapah on October 01, 2012, 03:17:19 pm
Post by: zombie urist on October 01, 2012, 03:27:23 pm
Post by: Bookthras on October 01, 2012, 03:30:07 pm
Also, that was mighty fast of you with the new BM! (but nitpick: the thread title says BM27 instead of 37, you have it right on the OP: XXXVII). I didn't think you'd be so fast, so I may need a bit of time to polish the Cybrid opening post. I'll put it up soon.
Post by: Hapah on October 01, 2012, 03:30:34 pm
Good to see him around, though, even if I don't really know him!
Post by: webadict on October 02, 2012, 09:01:41 am
Post by: TolyK on October 02, 2012, 09:19:27 am
Anyone mind another BYOR? Kinda enjoy making the roles and such.I liked BYOC, so I'm up for that. :D
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on October 02, 2012, 09:27:32 am
Post by: Hapah on October 02, 2012, 09:57:42 am
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on October 02, 2012, 10:01:20 am
Post by: Shakerag on October 02, 2012, 11:20:36 am
Post by: Toaster on October 02, 2012, 01:22:55 pm
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on October 02, 2012, 01:26:43 pm
I make it a point to bring as much unpredictable bullshit as I can to a BYOR.I know you're going to send in Retroactive Past Future Winner of BYOR 10.
Post by: Think0028 on October 02, 2012, 02:28:50 pm
Post by: Hapah on October 02, 2012, 02:31:06 pm
Post by: Shakerag on October 02, 2012, 02:36:07 pm
Says the guy who sent the nearly the same role as he did the first time.If it ain't broke ...
Oh god, that's tempting. So many interesting ideas ...I make it a point to bring as much unpredictable bullshit as I can to a BYOR.I know you're going to send in Retroactive Past Future Winner of BYOR 10.
Post by: TolyK on October 02, 2012, 02:43:20 pm
Post by: Tiruin on October 02, 2012, 03:14:45 pm
I make it a point to bring as much unpredictable bullshit as I can to a BYOR.And then everyone sent in their own avatars. :P Or an actual picture of...well, what you just said.
Post by: Shakerag on October 02, 2012, 03:16:07 pm
Or an actual picture of...well, what you just said.
Schrödinger's bullshit?
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on October 02, 2012, 04:13:45 pm
I'll just send in Homestuck.I make it a point to bring as much unpredictable bullshit as I can to a BYOR.And then everyone sent in their own avatars.
Post by: Hapah on October 02, 2012, 04:15:54 pm
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on October 02, 2012, 04:25:25 pm
Post by: Hapah on October 02, 2012, 04:36:20 pm
Post by: lordnincompoop on October 03, 2012, 04:01:45 pm
Hello, there. Did anyone miss me?
Didn't think so. I'll just cut to the point - now that I've more time than I know what to do with (oh boy will I ever regret saying that), I'd like to run another Mafia game here. Closed setup, 11-13 people, historical background (well, some) and ample flavourtext for those who enjoy it, and though it's not exactly craazy in the WWYDT Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=75894.0) sense, there's enough to keep you on your toes. Would there be any interest?
IT IS HERE.
Post by: Leafsnail on October 07, 2012, 07:23:39 pm
Also I'd quite like to run the next KotM when the number of games around is managable. The rules would be basically the same as last time, with the same "PGO will receive a heavy debuff" clause. I might add a couple of roles to disable though (eg: Recruiter, Traitor).
Post by: Mephansteras on October 09, 2012, 12:00:54 pm
I'll try to be better about that, since we're back to the point where the number of games going up seems to outstrip the available player pool.
Post by: lordnincompoop on October 09, 2012, 12:15:26 pm
Hey, I actually got around to updating the OP again.
I'll try to be better about that, since we're back to the point where the number of games going up seems to outstrip the available player pool.
Yes. Was kinda hoping that day wouldn't arrive, even if that is a naive one.
Just like to point out that it's "Mein Kampf", like the book. :P
Post by: Mephansteras on October 09, 2012, 12:16:29 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on October 12, 2012, 06:03:53 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on October 15, 2012, 03:57:59 pm
Post by: lordnincompoop on October 31, 2012, 02:05:38 am
Post by: Nerjin on November 14, 2012, 08:16:55 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on November 14, 2012, 08:18:46 pm
Post by: Nerjin on November 14, 2012, 08:22:57 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on November 14, 2012, 08:27:36 pm
Post by: Bookthras on November 25, 2012, 04:47:10 am
You still alive? Oh, look at the time... isn't it just about Paranormal O'Clock?
Lovely thing that prince whatchamacallit and all that... hope you got it out of your system. Now, how 'bout some of what your fans love you for?
...just sayin'. Would be nice 'n all... Perfect time for it. Happy holidays to you too.
Post by: Dariush on November 25, 2012, 06:28:30 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on November 25, 2012, 09:34:58 am
Post by: Dariush on November 25, 2012, 09:38:32 am
Beep boop guess who's in (if rusty as all hell) for a Paranormal.Uh... who is?
Post by: Mephansteras on November 25, 2012, 12:58:52 pm
Sign-ups will start Monday.
Post by: Toaster on November 25, 2012, 02:21:12 pm
Beep boop guess who's in (if rusty as all hell) for a Paranormal.
Just in times to have to drop out for finals!
Post by: webadict on November 25, 2012, 02:31:19 pm
Beep boop guess who's in (if rusty as all hell) for a Paranormal.This guy. Why not?
Post by: Dariush on November 25, 2012, 02:47:19 pm
Just in times to have to drop out for Paranormal!FTFY.
Post by: Mephansteras on November 26, 2012, 02:44:48 pm
Post by: lordnincompoop on November 30, 2012, 02:02:34 pm
Post by: Nerjin on November 30, 2012, 02:15:29 pm
Post by: Dariush on November 30, 2012, 02:23:51 pm
Some people wanted a third Witches' Coven a while back. Is there still any interest?Nah, of course not. Who needs that when we have the likes of Minecraft Mafia I: The Legacy Begins?!
Post by: Nerjin on November 30, 2012, 02:27:03 pm
Post by: Dariush on November 30, 2012, 02:33:59 pm
Come on Dariush, it was good for a laugh. Not fun looking to play but the reaction was nice. I was particularly fond of your reactions.Good jokes are like my jokes - completely non sequitur and overdone until they stop being so.
Post by: webadict on December 06, 2012, 09:16:04 pm
Post by: Phantom of The Library on December 06, 2012, 10:19:35 pm
Post by: webadict on December 06, 2012, 10:41:39 pm
I'd be up for a game of Liar's Dice if you're still interested.Sure. I'll be waiting on irc.newnet.net in channel #dicebot
Post by: Phantom of The Library on December 06, 2012, 11:05:39 pm
What am I supposed to do?
My apologies for my lack of experience with irc.
Post by: webadict on December 06, 2012, 11:12:19 pm
Okay, I think I'm on the channel, and I've typed !in, but nothing's happening.? I should be there, so I think you're in the wrong channel.
What am I supposed to do?
My apologies for my lack of experience with irc.
Post by: Phantom of The Library on December 06, 2012, 11:16:02 pm
Does this look right or horribly wrong?
Post by: webadict on December 06, 2012, 11:19:40 pm
Post by: webadict on December 06, 2012, 11:23:18 pm
You might need to /server irc.newnet.net first. I think you're on the wrong server.Yeah, after looking at your pic, you seem to be on your localhost as your server right now. Switch it to what I said (using "/server irc.newnet.net") and you can then join the channel dicebot.
Post by: Phantom of The Library on December 06, 2012, 11:31:33 pm
Finally got it I think
Post by: webadict on December 07, 2012, 12:17:01 am
Way to go!I tried, but whatever the heck I was using before only allows the one server as I just found out, so I'm trying to figure out how to use quakenetNevermind, downloading mirc
Finally got it I think
I'm here now.
Post by: Phantom of The Library on December 07, 2012, 12:41:26 am
Post by: webadict on December 07, 2012, 08:20:25 am
Well, I had a great time, even if I sucked. Hope to play you again sometime!Agreed. It was fun. Too bad more people didn't show up.
Post by: Dariush on December 07, 2012, 08:30:33 am
Post by: webadict on December 07, 2012, 08:35:44 am
Next time announce the game start sooner than one hour before its end so people who aren't obsessively mashing Ctrl+R could join and/or don't host it when the only guy who is obsessively mashing Ctrl+R is asleep, you duh.Oh you.
Post by: Nerjin on December 07, 2012, 11:22:17 am
Post by: Dariush on December 07, 2012, 11:32:53 am
So is it cool if I run the next Beginner's Mafia? I just wanna be sure I'm not stepping on any toes if I do.STEP ON ALL THE TOES.
Post by: Jim Groovester on December 07, 2012, 11:53:09 am
So is it cool if I run the next Beginner's Mafia? I just wanna be sure I'm not stepping on any toes if I do.
Go ahead, be my guest.
Post by: Dariush on December 07, 2012, 12:14:18 pm
Post by: webadict on December 08, 2012, 01:31:37 pm
Post by: Bookthras on December 08, 2012, 02:18:39 pm
Liar's Dice is up for a bit, if anyone's interested.
Liar's this and IRC that... don't you have a game to run (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=119041.0), you lazy bum?
Post by: ToonyMan on December 08, 2012, 02:26:13 pm
Post by: webadict on December 08, 2012, 02:27:39 pm
Actions are a key factor, actually. Blame the stragglers.Liar's Dice is up for a bit, if anyone's interested.
Liar's this and IRC that... don't you have a game to run (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=119041.0), you lazy bum?
You missed out on making Dariush ragequit!
Post by: zombie urist on December 08, 2012, 02:32:53 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on December 08, 2012, 05:22:57 pm
Post by: webadict on December 08, 2012, 06:16:18 pm
Isn't it pretty hard to grief in Liar's Dice though? The only way to make someone ragequit would be to be better at it than them.Correct?
Anyway, the bot's running, but I won't be playing. However, Ottofar's chilling there now if you want.
Post by: Bookthras on December 08, 2012, 11:46:53 pm
Maybe this would be a good time to bring Cybrid VI (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=117192.0) back into sign-ups? If I open it again (with a cleared player list, and a new asteroid), would there be interest?
If people feel like having a Cybrid chaser with their December festive drinks, please say so, and we may make it happen. It's a nine-to-twelve players, open setup, predictable mechanics, flavour rich game. Interested? (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=45016.msg3656697#msg3656697)
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on December 09, 2012, 12:08:16 am
Post by: Hapah on December 09, 2012, 12:28:58 am
Post by: zombie urist on December 09, 2012, 02:32:34 am
Post by: webadict on December 09, 2012, 04:45:09 pm
Post by: notquitethere on December 11, 2012, 01:25:54 am
Post by: zombie urist on December 11, 2012, 01:27:32 am
Post by: Hapah on December 11, 2012, 01:28:08 am
Post by: Nerjin on December 11, 2012, 08:13:42 am
Post by: Skyrunner on December 11, 2012, 08:34:08 am
Can I, as a totally unproved person, be able to start up a basic game of Mafia*? I don't think I'd be able to play normally, as I am both in a very different timezone and frankly don't have the nerves of steel for such a game >.>
* I had a feeling that making unannounced games, especially by newbies, was rather unwelcome here. Rome, Rome's rules.
Post by: Toaster on December 11, 2012, 08:38:12 am
As far as joining games go, we have several people that are in timezones quite off from US ones, and they're able to play just fine. A game day can last 72+ hours, which would give you plenty of chances to participate. A new Beginner's game is about to start, so you could give that a go.
If you really wanted to just mod, you could always offer to host the next Beginner's Mafia game- the one about to start has already been claimed, but there will always be more of them. It's a very structured set up, so it's a good way to see how it's done.
Post by: Nerjin on December 11, 2012, 08:39:28 am
Post by: Skyrunner on December 11, 2012, 08:43:51 am
Also, I've always been more of a GM/host than a player. I don't know why xD
Ehh. Choices and choices.
Post by: webadict on December 11, 2012, 08:49:33 am
I was thinking more of setting up a bare-bone game, which, in retrospect, is basically BM.The playing part is more to formalize yourself with Mafia. You get a bit used to how we play it before you run one, so you know what's up.
Also, I've always been more of a GM/host than a player. I don't know why xD
Ehh. Choices and choices.
Post by: Dariush on December 11, 2012, 08:57:16 am
Post by: Shakerag on December 11, 2012, 10:03:40 am
Specifically I should start sign-ups at around 6 or 7 today. How long do I hold sign-ups for by the way? I can't seem to find a decent rule-of-thumb anywhere.
For a BM? You hold signups until you get 7 players, 2 ICs, and 1 scum IC. No more, no less.
Post by: Nerjin on December 11, 2012, 04:36:22 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on December 15, 2012, 01:16:21 pm
Incidentally Bookthras suggested having webadict run the next KotM, and I think I'll let him. I probably won't have the time to run a game like that for a good while.
Post by: Dariush on December 15, 2012, 01:17:51 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on December 15, 2012, 01:32:58 pm
Post by: Dariush on December 16, 2012, 04:49:10 am
Post by: Bookthras on December 31, 2012, 10:18:28 pm
Thank you Meph, webadict, GlyphGryph, Toaster, Leafsnail, Phantom, Tiruin, Zombie, Think, LCNP, Jim, and more, for a year with many enjoyable, memorable games. Thanks to all players involved in those as well. A mod tries to make a good game, it's up to the players to make it fun.
There were some that didn't quite work out. There were some that were good and fun but not quite great, and that's OK, may there be many of them. There were a few that were incredibly fun and memorable, and 2012 may live as a banner year thanks to some like Politibastard or Roguelike4 or Bastard Supernatural or Mein Kampf or BYOR9 or CybridV, or some other of your choice where you had the most fun.
There was no lack of fun games this year. If the next year is just as good, we're sitting pretty. Just be more active, please.
Thank you all players and mods for playing and modding, and for welcoming your brethren what with warts and all and checkered pasts and unlikable traits and whatnot. None of us is perfect, but we mostly like each other's company, at least for a while, so we can play some mafia. That is fun. Let's have some.
Long live King Leafsnail.
Happy New Year! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2deQgkciOB4#t=0h1m30s)
Cheers!
~z
Post by: Hapah on December 31, 2012, 11:12:36 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on January 01, 2013, 02:11:31 am
Post by: ToonyMan on January 01, 2013, 06:09:16 pm
lynch all lurkers
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on January 01, 2013, 10:05:28 pm
Post by: Toaster on January 02, 2013, 12:32:45 pm
And thanks for showing us your heart. It makes it easier to aim the knife in the back.
((<3 you all))
Post by: webadict on January 02, 2013, 01:09:24 pm
I feel like it's a good time to link this thread. (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=73808.msg1830309#msg1830309)Just let me pee in peace, and we'll be fine with the knife stabbings.
And thanks for showing us your heart. It makes it easier to aim the knife in the back.
((<3 you all))
Post by: Leafsnail on January 02, 2013, 01:27:54 pm
Post by: Bookthras on January 04, 2013, 07:08:25 am
I'd say the quality of setups and gameplay was pretty high.I'd say the same too. We had some awe-fucking-osome games during 2012, including the ones whereby you're King (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=112233.0) and I'm Emperor (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=104547.0) (and let's not forget that amazing Wall of Flesh (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=98843.msg3024197#msg3024197)), others predicting some election results, some where a townie vigkilled all the scum, some where the town just knew where to vote due to great townie play, several scum D1 lynches, at least two games with an SK victory, games balanced to a razor's-edge perfection, and many interesting and flavourful others. Yes, as far as quality (both of playing and modding), I think 2012 was a banner year, to remain as reference to measure others by. It was a great Mafia year. Here's hoping 2013 lives up to that.
Imiknorris:
I refuse to feel cheery about it until someone gets in Trust Mafia.I want you to feel cheery. Share in the warmth of our common defeat on Roguelike4. That was a fun game, and we both gave it all, and we also both ended up an inch short from the finish line.
I would have liked to join Trust Mafia, but it frankly doesn't seem like a fun game to play... it seems like it would just devolve into that same tit-for-tat useless verbhorreic nonsense as in R4... Let's short-circuit it: in. vote nolynch. Game over, regardless of how the dice rolled. Can you feel cheery now?
Webadict:
Just let me pee in peace, and we'll be fine with the knife stabbings.Pee in peace, and sin no more. We shall not stab you. How 'bout processing the game you have going?
Post by: Leafsnail on January 04, 2013, 09:33:55 am
Post by: Toaster on January 04, 2013, 10:25:05 am
Post by: Leafsnail on January 04, 2013, 10:55:46 am
Post by: Toaster on January 04, 2013, 11:42:17 am
Post by: Nerjin on January 04, 2013, 11:47:16 am
Post by: Dariush on January 04, 2013, 11:58:01 am
Post by: Nerjin on January 04, 2013, 11:59:17 am
Post by: Leafsnail on January 04, 2013, 12:04:41 pm
There is no point in a game where mafia doesn't have any difference from town apart from wincon. If scum doesn't know (or have) any teammates, any skill element is removed from the game. There was no point in Prince's Guard. There is no point in this game.That's not true. In this game a mafia member is significantly different from a townie in that
a) they don't have a vote, and thus have to be careful to avoid committing
b) they know that the other person is town, and thus know exactly what needs to happen in order for them to win
These are both pretty big differences from a townie who has a vote and needs to work out what has to happen for them to win.
Post by: webadict on January 04, 2013, 02:54:43 pm
A lynch vote is also 100% loss for the other player, so with your vote you already know if the other player has won or not.Actually, not quite. There's a 25% chance of you being scum, and with being scum, you cannot lynch the other person, making it a 100% loss for you. So, a lynch vote on the other person is a 75% chance loss for the other person, and a 75% chance for you (50% chance for both of you to lose, 25% for you to lose and opponent to win, 25% chance for you to win and opponent to lose), whereas a no lynch is slightly different.
Spoiler: Whoops, this assumes 50% chance both town (click to show/hide)
Post by: TolyK on January 04, 2013, 03:10:25 pm
It hurts that it's not zero-sum though... :P
Post by: Leafsnail on January 04, 2013, 04:04:02 pm
If you're scum then you shouldn't vote anything at all since that would tell your opponent you are scum.
Post by: webadict on January 04, 2013, 05:12:47 pm
Yeah, webadict's analysis shows why there's a 33% chance of there being two townies rather than a 50% chance. Thus in the actual setup there's a 50/50 chance of your opponent being town/scum if you are a townie.Well, that's another assumption I made incorrectly. If that's true, then there's a lot more and less calculations. It means that only one person has to vote to hammer.
If you're scum then you shouldn't vote anything at all since that would tell your opponent you are scum.
Let's start again:
33% Both Town
33% You're Town
33% You're Scum
Assuming you're scum, you cannot vote or else you lose. Therefore, the trick is to convince your opponent to vote no lynch.
This ALSO works if you're Town. If your opponent is unable to vote, you win, and if he's Town, you also win.
The ultimate way to win is to get your opponent to no lynch.
Now, as for the zero sum, it still favors no lynching yourself if you're looking for an overall benefit.
You are scum and vote:
100% (-1, +1)
You vote NL:
50% (+1, +1)
50% (-1, +1)
Total (+0, +2)
You vote L:
50% (+1, -1)
50% (-1, -1)
Total (+0, -2)
If you always instantly lynch your opponent, regardless of alignment, you both equally lose points as time goes by. If you instantly no lynch, you slowly lose points, but he gains them back more rapidly. So, the optimum strategy is to take turns no lynching. (Technically, the optimum strategy is to do nothing and wait for the opponent, but that's not going to solve anything. Someone has to make the first move.)
Spoiler: Opponent Votes First (click to show/hide)
In actuality, it's 50% to win no matter what happens, excepting stupid things like voting first as scum.
Post by: Leafsnail on January 04, 2013, 05:32:02 pm
Post by: Nerjin on January 04, 2013, 07:04:06 pm
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on January 17, 2013, 09:21:43 pm
Post by: webadict on January 20, 2013, 05:18:38 pm
Post by: notquitethere on January 20, 2013, 06:33:21 pm
ELEMENTAL MAFIA
There are five players and five roles secretly assigned: fire, air, water, earth and wood. Each element is allied with two other elements and is enemy with two other elements. A player wins when both their enemies are dead. The allegiances are as you'd expect:
Fire is allied with Air and Earth, enemy to Water and Wood.
Air is allied with Fire and Water, enemy to Earth and Wood.
Water is allied with Air and Wood, enemy to Fire and Earth.
Wood is allied with Water and Earth, enemy to Air and Fire.
Earth is allied with Wood and Fire, enemy to Water and Air.
Each day each player must choose to Lynch one other player and also Protect one other player (not themselves). These actions are performed publicly, no PMing is allowed. This encourages the players to spend their time seeking alliances. The day ends when ALL the players have assigned both an attacking and a defending action, and one person has more kills-minus-protects against them than any other player. You only find out what element another player is after they've been killed.
If everyone is uninformed, the game might be too random. Two possible solutions: either each player randomly knows the identity of one other player (thus sparking in-game analysis of what knowledge a person's lynch and protect votes might indicate); or each element has a secret power; or both.
Possible powers:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Captain Ford on January 20, 2013, 06:46:17 pm
Very different from yours, though.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
It needs some touching up, but I'm going to share it anyway.
Please Note: If I actually intended to run it, I wouldn't post it here. I don't really think it's good enough to run, though I'd appreciate criticism. But something more than "it's bad" please.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Teneb on January 21, 2013, 06:20:15 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 04, 2013, 09:32:34 pm
Would anyone be interested in me hosting a not-quite mafia?
Post by: Nerjin on February 04, 2013, 09:34:24 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 04, 2013, 09:39:51 pm
5-10 players, with town being Rebels and scum being Spies of the Evil Empire.
5 rounds/days.
Each round has two parts: the first is planning mode. Someone is made "mission leader" (it goes in order). They select a team of players to go on the mission. Everyone votes as to whether or not to accept this team by sending a PM. I then reveal the ultimate results along with who cast what vote - if it passes, the game goes to mission mode, otherwise the mission leader mantle passes to the next player (this can happen a limited number of times, half the number of players rounded down, after which the mission fails).
During mission mode, everybody submits their mission action to me in secret, which can be either "success" or "fail". Failure is basically sabotage. It is assumed Rebels will always throw success (If the game goes well, I might add more actions to spice it up), but spies can choose to throw a success or a failure. I then reveal the total number of failures (but not who cast them) and whether or not the mission as a whole failed.
Depending on the mission, the spies need one or two failures to make the mission a failure.
The team that wins the most rounds wins the game, and missions get progressively harder by virtue of requiring larger teams.
Obviously, the purpose of the game is to identify the scum and NEVER EVER send them on missions. But players don't get eliminated, so everyone gets to play the whole game instead of being immediately knocked out.
Post by: Toaster on February 04, 2013, 09:55:40 pm
Post by: Captain Ford on February 04, 2013, 10:17:09 pm
I think I'm missing something.
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 04, 2013, 10:25:38 pm
Post by: Nerjin on February 04, 2013, 11:36:40 pm
I want to host Revolution. It is actually better than Mafia. And I think I can make it even MORE fun with some nice flavour.
Would anyone be interested in me hosting a not-quite mafia?
Do you have credible sources to back up that assessment?
The votes revealed or for whether or not to accept the proposed team. Not for mission failure and success - the only thing revealed there is the NUMBER of failures that were cast. Sorry, I accidentally put that in the wrong place. Moving and clarifying. :P
That makes a world of difference. I would sign up again if possible. Seems interesting.
Post by: Mephansteras on February 04, 2013, 11:46:52 pm
I want to host Revolution. It is actually better than Mafia. And I think I can make it even MORE fun with some nice flavour.
Would anyone be interested in me hosting a not-quite mafia?
Do you have credible sources to back up that assessment?
Can't speak for how well it'll work on a forum setting, but I'd agree with that assessment for an in-person game.
Do note that the Scum DO NOT know who each other are, so it may have some of the same issues that Prince's guard had. Although since you don't have player elimination it might be more fun regardless.
Post by: Nerjin on February 04, 2013, 11:47:55 pm
Post by: Hapah on February 04, 2013, 11:49:04 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on February 05, 2013, 12:35:41 am
But the rules said Spies do know each other (and have a planning day) in the thread. They just can't talk once the game is officially underway.
I was just going off of the game I've played in person.
Post by: Hapah on February 05, 2013, 12:37:39 am
I'm going to wait and see how RL shapes up before I commit to any games.
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 05, 2013, 09:35:20 am
Huh, the one I played in person did have the spies know who each other were. I'm actually boosting them a bit by allowing them to talk before the game begins, and that might be a bad idea, but we'll see.But the rules said Spies do know each other (and have a planning day) in the thread. They just can't talk once the game is officially underway.I was just going off of the game I've played in person.
Post by: Kashyyk on February 07, 2013, 05:59:57 pm
Post by: Vector on February 20, 2013, 10:12:32 pm
I'd like to play in the next BYOR, I think, though I may replace into the thing that's having problems.
Post by: Toaster on February 20, 2013, 10:21:32 pm
No new food avatar to celebrate?
Post by: Vector on February 20, 2013, 10:22:36 pm
Post by: Skyrunner on February 20, 2013, 10:22:52 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on February 20, 2013, 10:24:43 pm
Post by: Toaster on February 20, 2013, 10:30:33 pm
Post by: Vector on February 20, 2013, 10:31:32 pm
I'm not promising anything tonight because I am very, very tired, but you'll get my decision by tomorrow evening.
Flanny goodness.
Yessss :D I had some for the first time a couple weeks ago, and it has become one of my favoritest things.
Post by: Mephansteras on February 20, 2013, 10:37:20 pm
Post by: The Soldier on February 21, 2013, 02:02:35 am
Post by: zombie urist on February 21, 2013, 02:14:52 am
Post by: The Soldier on February 21, 2013, 02:38:40 am
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on February 21, 2013, 03:14:44 am
Post by: Dariush on February 21, 2013, 06:11:41 am
So, I've been settling into my new job pretty well and I think I'll be able to start up a game sometime soon. Any requests?Yep, I have a request. Pre-in. :D
Your paranormals look pretty cool. I'd gladly join if you don't mind a relative newbie.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Toaster on February 21, 2013, 08:40:13 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on February 21, 2013, 10:13:25 am
Post by: Nerjin on February 21, 2013, 11:23:44 am
Your paranormals look pretty cool. I'd gladly join if you don't mind a relative newbie.
If you do end up joining just look out for Dariush. He's kind of a hard-ass bordering on mean-spirited at times. It's just part of his charm, if you give him time you sort of grow used to it. But my point being that he doesn't take kindly to "BM-less Newbs".
Post by: Teneb on February 21, 2013, 12:22:40 pm
Your paranormals look pretty cool. I'd gladly join if you don't mind a relative newbie.
If you do end up joining just look out for Dariush. He's kind of a hard-ass bordering on mean-spirited at times. It's just part of his charm, if you give him time you sort of grow used to it. But my point being that he doesn't take kindly to "BM-less Newbs".
Indeed, that being said, it is recommended you finish one BM first. Entering a real game when you don't know much can result in a quick lynch.
Post by: Dariush on February 21, 2013, 12:28:23 pm
Indeed, that being said, it is recommended you finish one BM first. Entering a real game when you don't know much can result in a quick lynch.To be fair, entering a real game even after a BM will still most likely result in a quick lynch, but at least this way it'll be from a tangible and correctable mistake (or simply getting tunneled by a heap of easylynching cretins) and not from not knowing the rules or just generally fucking up so far beyond all repair as to come back from the other side.
On a related note, arghblargh I'm dead. Why did you kill me, you bastards?! :'(
Post by: The Soldier on February 21, 2013, 02:48:15 pm
Post by: webadict on February 25, 2013, 08:15:29 pm
He doesn't take kindly to anyone. Except Book. He's got a mancrush on the guy.Your paranormals look pretty cool. I'd gladly join if you don't mind a relative newbie.
If you do end up joining just look out for Dariush. He's kind of a hard-ass bordering on mean-spirited at times. It's just part of his charm, if you give him time you sort of grow used to it. But my point being that he doesn't take kindly to "BM-less Newbs".
Post by: Nerjin on February 25, 2013, 08:47:37 pm
Post by: Vector on February 25, 2013, 08:49:43 pm
(... "Crucify! Crucify! Crucify!")
Post by: Nerjin on February 25, 2013, 08:51:13 pm
Post by: Toaster on February 25, 2013, 08:56:23 pm
He has calmed, though- when he first started it was less bile and more RAGE.
Post by: Nerjin on February 25, 2013, 08:57:44 pm
The Town Mafia;
Essentially a role reversal. A mafia has won so the two remaining townsfolk, whom no one remembers were ever town, decide to exact vengeance the same way the mafia did.
No idea how that'd work over time but I figure it may be interesting for the next person to try out if they have no other ideas. Could probably use a bit of work but yeah...
Post by: Vector on February 25, 2013, 09:00:26 pm
Post by: webadict on February 25, 2013, 10:13:58 pm
I dunno... Sometimes he rubs me the wrong way. Usually though he makes really good points and despite the rage is entirely validated.That's sexual harassment, and we don't condone it.
Post by: Captain Ford on February 25, 2013, 10:31:38 pm
At least not officially.I dunno... Sometimes he rubs me the wrong way. Usually though he makes really good points and despite the rage is entirely validated.That's sexual harassment, and we don't condone it.
Post by: Dariush on February 26, 2013, 04:22:18 am
Also, wat.I dunno... Sometimes he rubs me the wrong way. Usually though he makes really good points and despite the rage is entirely validated.That's sexual harassment, and we don't condone it.
At least not officially.Or rather double wat.
Post by: IronyOwl on February 26, 2013, 04:22:49 am
Essentially a role reversal. A mafia has won so the two remaining townsfolk, whom no one remembers were ever town, decide to exact vengeance the same way the mafia did.Different but related, one of our BMs had an ice cream theme, with vanillas trying to root out mints or something. Town won, so the next game was the surviving vanilla townies from last game wreaking vengeance upon mint townies this time (or whatever the combo was).
I also get the feeling we've had at least one game with a setup like you're talking about, at least as far as town being bad guys of some variety, but I can't think of the specifics or swear it was a BM.
Post by: Vector on February 26, 2013, 04:24:14 am
Post by: Darvi on February 26, 2013, 09:31:25 am
Post by: Toaster on February 26, 2013, 10:16:00 am
No wait, BM XIX (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=74997.0).
Post by: ToonyMan on February 26, 2013, 11:18:47 pm
Toonyman brought up an interesting concept with the Nonary game: Mafia edition. It would be easy to make it into an actual mafia game at the least.At the very least it would have to involve doors. And possibly quantum states.
Post by: Darvi on February 27, 2013, 05:50:01 am
So what I think would be the rough outline for the game:
1) There are no days and nights. That would either imply the existence of windows (bad for keeping people trapped) or knowledge of the current time (yeah no). Instead, there's three phases per round.
2) First phase lasts 24h. No extensions. Everybody is assigned a colour and potentially a partner if they're in a pair. The players can talk to each other and vote on the 3-player groups for the next phase.
3) Second phase, 24h, no extensions. The thread gets locked and every group gets a quicktopic thread for their own discussions. This is when people are behind the doors solving puzzles and shit.
4) Third phase, 24h, extensions allowed. Thread gets reopened again, people can discuss what happened during the previous phase. Pairs get a new quicktopic thread to discuss their vote. At the end of this phase, people gain or lose points depending on their votes, and the first phase of the next round begins. If nobody within a certain group votes, they all die.
5) Some people get special roles/abilities, naturally. E.g. voting before their partner has a chance to pipe in. Yes, dickishness is an ability :V
6) Once somebody has the necessary 9 points, they can choose to end the game, but they can also keep it going for whatever reason. Of course, considering the people here *coughwubacough* precautions must be taken to avoid the "play until everybody can leave" trick.
Post by: Leafsnail on February 27, 2013, 12:52:50 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on February 27, 2013, 01:06:42 pm
I'm kind of leaning Totem Mafia, with more nonstandard abilities this time around.
Post by: Vector on February 27, 2013, 02:10:06 pm
Post by: Shakerag on February 27, 2013, 03:42:15 pm
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on February 27, 2013, 03:58:05 pm
Post by: Toaster on February 27, 2013, 03:58:48 pm
That means I can submit "Lolcat" as my totem animal, right?
Post by: Mephansteras on February 27, 2013, 04:07:51 pm
Post by: Shakerag on February 27, 2013, 04:11:33 pm
Post by: Hapah on February 28, 2013, 12:21:24 am
What would people prefer I run next: Paranormal, Supernatural, or Totem Mafia?Sounds good to me.
I'm kind of leaning Totem Mafia, with more nonstandard abilities this time around.
Post by: Dariush on February 28, 2013, 08:20:05 am
Paranatural.Oh fucking YES (http://paranatural.net/chapter-one/).
I would be up for Totem if you give an example of what abilities we can expect. I really didn't like the last one due to one-bogstandard-ability-per-player, but if stuff gets a more early-BYORs level of insanity, I'll definitely change my opinion.
Post by: ToonyMan on February 28, 2013, 01:47:38 pm
Post by: Dariush on February 28, 2013, 03:14:39 pm
Does it disgust you that I have read Paranatural as well Dariush?Of course it does. How dare you infringe upon civilized people's pastime.
Post by: Mephansteras on February 28, 2013, 03:38:48 pm
I would be up for Totem if you give an example of what abilities we can expect. I really didn't like the last one due to one-bogstandard-ability-per-player, but if stuff gets a more early-BYORs level of insanity, I'll definitely change my opinion.
Not sure exactly how insane it'll end up getting, but everyone will have at least a day power and a night power. Depending on the animal, people may also have passive abilities or multiple weaker powers.
Post by: Mephansteras on March 01, 2013, 01:46:06 pm
Post by: Solifuge on March 01, 2013, 06:11:24 pm
I'mma think on it. :/
Post by: Mephansteras on March 01, 2013, 06:28:06 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on March 08, 2013, 07:51:08 pm
Post by: Darvi on March 08, 2013, 08:13:46 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on March 08, 2013, 08:18:47 pm
Post by: Captain Ford on March 09, 2013, 05:48:24 pm
You're scary, LS.
Post by: Nerjin on March 09, 2013, 06:46:36 pm
I just finished reading the last KotM and all I can say is "****".
You're scary, LS.
Why the censor Ford? If this comes off as rude I'm sorry but I saw you had actually typed it and then edited it to how it is now. Just sorta curious.
Post by: Captain Ford on March 09, 2013, 08:46:09 pm
Post by: Nerjin on March 09, 2013, 10:29:08 pm
Well I disagree with ya there. Cursing isn't really funny to begin with anymore. Maybe at one point the absurdity of it but with its prevalance in culture [American anyway] makes it sorta like saying "Pineapple" or whatever. But that's just my opinion.
Post by: Tiruin on March 09, 2013, 11:11:37 pm
[Opinion inbound]True this. Cursing isn't funny, that's true. :P
Well I disagree with ya there. Cursing isn't really funny to begin with anymore. Maybe at one point the absurdity of it but with its prevalance in culture [American anyway] makes it sorta like saying "Pineapple" or whatever. But that's just my opinion.
Censors work though. Both don't hold the 'funny' idea for me, but what I've experienced regarding those things is different anyway.
Cultural/Regional barriers and such.
Post by: Toaster on March 10, 2013, 12:03:01 am
Post by: Captain Ford on March 10, 2013, 12:25:04 am
The Camping Trip (http://www.eduplace.com/tales/content/wwt_032.html)
I basically thought, "hey, what if I just filled in all the works with fuck?" And I added a few others as well.
Well, it turned out quite well, in my opinion.
Post by: Tiruin on March 10, 2013, 12:54:02 am
What the pineapple do you mean by that?Like this, You pineapple.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2013, 10:55:47 am
[Opinion inbound]I don't really mind cursing as long as you don't pepper your daily sentences with them. I'd prefer you were actually mad when cursing and not just vulgar.
Well I disagree with ya there. Cursing isn't really funny to begin with anymore. Maybe at one point the absurdity of it but with its prevalance in culture [American anyway] makes it sorta like saying "Pineapple" or whatever. But that's just my opinion.
Spoiler: For Example (click to show/hide)
Also no I never swear out-loud. :-[
EDIT:
You know it's bad if you can't yawn without saying "fuck" or "shit" afterwards. I know people like this.
Post by: Dariush on March 10, 2013, 11:36:42 am
You know it's bad if you can't yawn without saying "fuck" or "shit" afterwards. I know people like this.You're lucky you haven't walked russian (or ukrainian, for that matter) streets while knowing Russian. I doubt you can find any other places on earth where you will not be exaggerating when saying that people swear once for every two words said.
*yawn* Fuck, my jaw locked up.
Post by: Teneb on March 10, 2013, 01:04:15 pm
You know it's bad if you can't yawn without saying "fuck" or "shit" afterwards. I know people like this.You're lucky you haven't walked russian (or ukrainian, for that matter) streets while knowing Russian. I doubt you can find any other places on earth where you will not be exaggerating when saying that people swear once for every two words said.
*yawn* Fuck, my jaw locked up.
Clearly you do not know Brazil. I myself tend to curse at least once every two sentences (usually more, however).
Post by: TolyK on March 10, 2013, 01:16:19 pm
No, really. Post-soviet countries, there are quite a few people who swear every second or third word.You know it's bad if you can't yawn without saying "fuck" or "shit" afterwards. I know people like this.You're lucky you haven't walked russian (or ukrainian, for that matter) streets while knowing Russian. I doubt you can find any other places on earth where you will not be exaggerating when saying that people swear once for every two words said.
*yawn* Fuck, my jaw locked up.
Clearly you do not know Brazil. I myself tend to curse at least once every two sentences (usually more, however).
"Сука блядь этот ебучий пидорас вообще охуел, ему гандон наголову прихуярить мало." <-- The curse words are red, yellow ones are also "frowned upon". And this I heard while just walking down the street, and it's pretty typical of at least 20% of the population.
Post by: Dariush on March 11, 2013, 07:37:06 am
Also, when I said about one curse per two words, I meant only interjections that don't have a meaning of their own and instead serve to swearify the words around. In Tolyk's example several of the words are actual verbs or nouns (for example, охуел roughly translates to 'self-dickified' and means, roughly, 'intentionally became an asshole'), so if you count those, the total swears-per-word ratio can rise to 1. I am not joking.
Yay for derails.
Post by: TolyK on March 11, 2013, 03:15:01 pm
And back on topic.
Post by: notquitethere on March 11, 2013, 05:29:13 pm
Post by: Vector on March 11, 2013, 05:30:13 pm
Post by: Darvi on March 11, 2013, 05:44:43 pm
Post by: Teneb on March 11, 2013, 06:29:33 pm
Has anyone bagged running the next Beginner's Mafia? If not, could I do the honours? I'd like to run other kinds of mafia games (like maybe elemental mafia), and I gather the done thing is to run a BM first.Flying Dice already called it a long time ago.
Post by: notquitethere on March 11, 2013, 07:35:33 pm
Post by: Teneb on March 11, 2013, 07:44:37 pm
Where? I've looked back in this thread and there hasn't been a declaration of intent since your own.It's in the New Player's Guide thread.
Post by: notquitethere on March 11, 2013, 08:04:31 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
However, since then, Scelly9 and Tiruin have also put in a request.
Post by: Teneb on March 11, 2013, 09:07:23 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on March 15, 2013, 11:19:00 pm
1. What is the current setup?
0-1 Cop
0-1 Doctor
5-7 Townies
0-1 Mafia Roleblocker
0-1 Mafia Godfather
2. When did we start using this setup?
The setup was first used in BM4, and as far as I can tell we haven't changed it since. That means all beginner setups between BM4 and BM38 used this setup (I'm not including BM39 in this as it is unfinished).
3. What is the problem?
Spoiler: Data (click to show/hide)
*4. What can we learn from this?
- Town needs to be buffed in some way in BM. Perhaps by guaranteeing a town PR or changing the setup to something more forgiving.
- There are more PRs in these games than you'd expect by chance I think, but I haven't properly checked this.
- I really miss dakarian, and I'm still angry about Neruz.
- PLEASE WRITE THE SETUP SOMEWHERE MODS
Post by: Vector on March 15, 2013, 11:21:46 pm
I personally think there shouldn't be a scum IC. That would probably help a LOT.
Post by: Leafsnail on March 15, 2013, 11:24:17 pm
Post by: Vector on March 15, 2013, 11:30:18 pm
I don't like switching roles because this should be a behavioral game, first and foremost, and something with more PRs is just too much. If you take away some roles from the scum, okay, that's one thing, though I still think it's bad for balance (a PR with guarantees is a PR that's not being taught well).
Alternatively, we switch up BM to generally be easier, with the assumption that the learning isn't contained there and we start running an NSBM series for real. I could get behind that.
Post by: Toaster on March 16, 2013, 01:01:32 am
What if the scum IC could only post in thread? Or wasn't even told who the scum were?
Post by: Jim Groovester on March 16, 2013, 01:08:16 am
There are other problems endemic to BMs that explain the terrible town win rate, and they don't have to do with the setup. Poor player activity, frequent replacements, players not knowing what the hell they're doing, players being unable to tell the difference between noob and scum. If any other game had these problems the town win rate would probably take a turn for the shitter just as well.
If the setup is balanced not accounting for player skill then that's all we should care about.
I personally think there shouldn't be a scum IC. That would probably help a LOT.
I agree with this. Scum ICs are able to give their players personal attention, attention that the playing ICs are unable to give the rest of playerbase. This is not a trivial advantage.
What if the scum IC could only post in thread? Or wasn't even told who the scum were?
I don't see how that would work.
Post by: Vector on March 16, 2013, 01:22:55 am
Post by: Leafsnail on March 16, 2013, 08:25:59 am
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C9%2B2
This one was deemed overly mafia sided, and unlike ours it didn't have any mafia power roles. That's why there was a switch to 2of4, which would always contain at least one town PR (although the doctor/townie setup is still mafia sided).
Basically if you run the statistics 2 mafia out of 9 players is actually pretty mafia sided, so some power roles are needed to even things out.
Post by: Jim Groovester on March 16, 2013, 11:19:02 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 16, 2013, 11:56:14 am
Instead of the current setup, if we could get people willing to serve as an advisor for a group of maybe 3 players and provides personal advice.
Post by: Captain Ford on March 16, 2013, 02:58:02 pm
If there's a problem, I think it's that our newbie retention rate is abysmal.
Post by: GlyphGryph on March 16, 2013, 03:11:28 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on March 16, 2013, 03:18:40 pm
On another note, with Revolution finished, is this the sort of game people would be interested in me running again at some point? Perhaps with Plots (the Revolution equivalent of power roles)?Yeah, maybe later.
Post by: Tiruin on March 16, 2013, 03:48:14 pm
I'm going to throw in with GlyphGryph and state that losing is actually the most educational experience possible. It teaches townies what sort of reads they can rely on, and which they can't. Being right doesn't teach this, and can often teach the wrong things. Having good scum is crucial for teaching good scumhunting.^
If there's a problem, I think it's that our newbie retention rate is abysmal.
Both accounts hold true.
On the first: yes. Losing is the most educational experience if you make it
> Memorable
> Fun
That's how I learned from my first BM...And lost the proceeding regular games. Hard.
It was actually a great game. With the tendency of...conversation to derive who's scum instead. Though, giving spies a pre-game time to chat with themselves seems like a skewed advantage due to the idea that "No roleflip/Death//Yes chat" is a constant.On another note, with Revolution finished, is this the sort of game people would be interested in me running again at some point? Perhaps with Plots (the Revolution equivalent of power roles)?Yeah, maybe later.
Post by: Toaster on March 16, 2013, 09:13:24 pm
Post by: Hapah on March 16, 2013, 09:26:33 pm
Post by: Toaster on March 16, 2013, 09:29:15 pm
Post by: Tiruin on March 17, 2013, 12:28:28 am
Interest check: Roguelike 6? Got a bit of an urge to host something.Always interested. After KoTM/Totem :P
Post by: lordnincompoop on March 17, 2013, 05:04:01 am
If so, I'll probably get back in 2-3 months with the game. Well?
Post by: Vector on March 17, 2013, 06:33:58 am
Post by: Phantom of The Library on March 17, 2013, 01:08:02 pm
In 2-3 months? Yes, please.
Post by: Toaster on March 17, 2013, 01:35:38 pm
Post by: Tiruin on March 17, 2013, 11:46:25 pm
In 2-3 months? Yes, !in
Post by: zombie urist on March 21, 2013, 02:04:47 pm
Maybe vengeful?
Post by: notquitethere on March 21, 2013, 04:20:12 pm
Question: I know the general policy is that one should run a BM before running another game, but what with the trend towards interminable Extension BMs, waiting for one's opportunity to run a game might take many months when the will and opportunity has long since passed. So would anyone be terribly upset if I went ahead and ran a small mafia-like game? I've been mulling over experimenting with my idea for a five-player Elemental Mafia.
Post by: Vector on March 21, 2013, 04:22:08 pm
Post by: Nerjin on March 21, 2013, 04:25:58 pm
I want to see mountains, ZU-dalf!
Question: I know the general policy is that one should run a BM before running another game, but what with the trend towards interminable Extension BMs, waiting for one's opportunity to run a game might take many months when the will and opportunity has long since passed. So would anyone be terribly upset if I went ahead and ran a small mafia-like game? I've been mulling over experimenting with my idea for a five-player Elemental Mafia.
Which is why I added the "Use extension or lose it for the day" thing in my BM. I don't know how others felt about it but I felt that it would make everything be alright.
I'd want to see the set-up posted here [spoilered of course] before you put it into an actual game just to make sure everything checks out.
Post by: Quadressence on March 21, 2013, 06:01:46 pm
I want to see mountains, ZU-dalf!Ooo, ooo! Is void the fifth one? Because relevant username! If not, then I'll just slink that-a-way --> -_-;
Question: I know the general policy is that one should run a BM before running another game, but what with the trend towards interminable Extension BMs, waiting for one's opportunity to run a game might take many months when the will and opportunity has long since passed. So would anyone be terribly upset if I went ahead and ran a small mafia-like game? I've been mulling over experimenting with my idea for a five-player Elemental Mafia.
Post by: notquitethere on March 21, 2013, 06:09:38 pm
Here's the set-up for Elemental Mafia, or, because it has nothing to do with organised crime, just ELEMENTS
The set up:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Discussion of the set up:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Mephansteras on March 21, 2013, 06:32:45 pm
Post by: notquitethere on March 21, 2013, 06:42:36 pm
Post by: Vector on March 23, 2013, 12:42:29 pm
(I wanna play somethin')
Post by: Mephansteras on March 23, 2013, 12:45:52 pm
Totem Mafia 2 probably won't go more than another week, so I can start thinking about what I'll run next.
Post by: Toaster on March 23, 2013, 12:50:32 pm
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on March 23, 2013, 12:55:07 pm
Post by: notquitethere on March 23, 2013, 01:01:51 pm
I'd play roguelike.
Post by: Vector on March 23, 2013, 01:29:57 pm
Post by: Toaster on March 23, 2013, 01:48:59 pm
Post by: Nerjin on March 23, 2013, 09:41:59 pm
Post by: Vector on March 23, 2013, 09:45:10 pm
Post by: Toaster on March 23, 2013, 09:46:42 pm
And ninja by Vector.
Post by: Mephansteras on March 23, 2013, 09:47:49 pm
Post by: Nerjin on March 23, 2013, 09:49:51 pm
Feel free to PM me the set-up and I can help you balance it.
I'm honored that you're willing to help. I may take you up on that.
Post by: lordnincompoop on March 24, 2013, 06:33:39 am
Some notes: The setup and roles will be closed as before, and will have a hidden layer to the game as before (which will be fairly obscure), but I'll try to make the game more accessible by disclosing the relevant known staple roles and such from previous games - stuff people familiar with previous games likely know. That doesn't mean the previous two will be completely irrelevant once I provide this, though.
As for what I came to ask - is anyone willing to co-mod the new Witches' Coven when it rolls around this summer, preferably someone who wouldn't otherwise participate? I'll have enough to do writing flavour and handling game mechanics, so it'd be nice to have some helping hands - the co-mod's role would mostly involve posting regular votecounts and keeping track of extensions/shortens, and probably sometimes reminding forgetful me to link people to Deadchat or something.
Post by: Captain Ford on March 24, 2013, 09:53:28 am
Post by: Nerjin on March 24, 2013, 11:28:01 am
Four people expressed interest in WC - I don't know if that'll be enough, but I'm intrigued enough by my setup myself that I've decided to pursue this anyway.
Some notes: The setup and roles will be closed as before, and will have a hidden layer to the game as before (which will be fairly obscure), but I'll try to make the game more accessible by disclosing the relevant known staple roles and such from previous games - stuff people familiar with previous games likely know. That doesn't mean the previous two will be completely irrelevant once I provide this, though.
As for what I came to ask - is anyone willing to co-mod the new Witches' Coven when it rolls around this summer, preferably someone who wouldn't otherwise participate? I'll have enough to do writing flavour and handling game mechanics, so it'd be nice to have some helping hands - the co-mod's role would mostly involve posting regular votecounts and keeping track of extensions/shortens, and probably sometimes reminding forgetful me to link people to Deadchat or something.
I'd be willing to help.
Post by: Jim Groovester on March 24, 2013, 03:05:07 pm
Post by: lordnincompoop on March 24, 2013, 03:17:52 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 25, 2013, 02:54:48 pm
Post by: Vector on March 25, 2013, 02:55:34 pm
Post by: Nerjin on March 25, 2013, 04:50:34 pm
So, now that Totem 2 is done are there any requests for what I should run next?
I vote that you run what you want to run. Maybe try something out of the ordinary?
Post by: Hapah on March 25, 2013, 04:54:05 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 25, 2013, 05:01:18 pm
Do you have anything particular in mind, Meph?
Not really. I could run a Supernatural or Paranormal easily enough, of course, since everything is pretty much in place for those.
I do have an idea kicking around for a Bastard game, as well as an idea for a game where people's roles change every day. So I could do one of those if people want, although I haven't fleshed out the details on them yet.
I also had fun with the various vote-based abilities in Totem, so it might be fun to run a Vote Mafia at some point. Not sure what the flavor I'd use for that one yet, though.
Post by: Vector on March 25, 2013, 05:04:09 pm
Post by: Tiruin on March 25, 2013, 05:05:31 pm
Bastard, please!Seconding!
Post by: Captain Ford on March 25, 2013, 05:06:49 pm
...but it sounds awesome. The setup of both bastard paranormal games were brilliant.
Post by: Leafsnail on March 25, 2013, 05:08:30 pm
Post by: Teneb on March 25, 2013, 05:11:10 pm
Post by: Nerjin on March 25, 2013, 05:15:37 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 25, 2013, 05:18:51 pm
I'll start designing it. Sign-ups will probably happen later this week and hopefully the game will start next Monday. Unless people think I should hold off a bit.
Post by: Leafsnail on March 25, 2013, 05:22:52 pm
Post by: Hapah on March 25, 2013, 05:23:29 pm
Post by: Captain Ford on March 25, 2013, 05:24:52 pm
Yeah, probably. Just don't feel like you have to push it out before it's ready, though!I echo this sentiment.
Also, I'm impressed how someone mentions the word "bastard" and suddenly half the board is online.
Post by: notquitethere on March 25, 2013, 05:27:13 pm
We should lynch Mephansteras before the game starts.
Post by: Mephansteras on March 25, 2013, 05:28:39 pm
I just read Glyph Gryph's Quick Bastard.
We should lynch Mephansteras before the game starts.
You'd do better to read the Bastard's that I've already run. My games won't be solved by so cheap a trick. :P
Post by: webadict on March 25, 2013, 09:23:31 pm
It'd basically be a BYOR, but with a more defined flavor and less overall preparation by me. I can take a basic concept and turn it into a magic wielder.
I don't want to steal the name Elemental Mafia, so I'll consider a name for it later, or I'll steal it. Is there any interest?
Post by: Vector on March 25, 2013, 09:38:16 pm
Post by: Okami No Rei on March 25, 2013, 09:40:20 pm
Post by: Captain Ford on March 25, 2013, 09:54:25 pm
Post by: webadict on March 25, 2013, 10:06:38 pm
Totally calling ponymancer.Equinomancer
Post by: Captain Ford on March 25, 2013, 10:14:28 pm
...
Been watching too many brony videos lately.
Post by: zombie urist on March 25, 2013, 10:15:12 pm
Post by: Teneb on March 25, 2013, 10:15:54 pm
Can I be a zombiemancer?Wouldn't that be a necromancer? unless you mean you want to be a zombie that is also a mage
How would and anthropomancer work?
Post by: Captain Ford on March 25, 2013, 10:18:49 pm
Wouldn't that be a necromancer? unless you mean you want to be a zombie that is also a mageNecromancer would imply a whole lot of other things, like skeletons, wights, ghosts, ghouls, contacting the dead, seeking immortality, stealing souls, etc.
I think he just wants to do zombie things.
Post by: Toaster on March 25, 2013, 10:29:30 pm
Post by: Hapah on March 25, 2013, 10:32:25 pm
Web BYORs are always cool.
Post by: Shakerag on March 25, 2013, 10:55:52 pm
I'd be okay with doing another BYOR. Except, this time, I'd want to do... Magic. Essentially, you'd each choose an element to bring for your mage, whether it be Pianomancer, with the ability to summon pianos anywhere including above your head, or a Shadow Mage, undetectable by any magic, or even a plain old Fire Wizard, with the power to burn things like people.
It'd basically be a BYOR, but with a more defined flavor and less overall preparation by me. I can take a basic concept and turn it into a magic wielder.
I don't want to steal the name Elemental Mafia, so I'll consider a name for it later, or I'll steal it. Is there any interest?
This is just to spite me, isn't it?
Post by: webadict on March 25, 2013, 11:15:14 pm
Post by: Toaster on March 25, 2013, 11:57:54 pm
This is just to spite me, isn't it?
Meta Mage
BYOR Mage
Self-Referential Mage
Recursive Mage
Post by: webadict on March 26, 2013, 12:11:07 am
All but Self-Referential I would allow.This is just to spite me, isn't it?
Meta Mage
BYOR Mage
Self-Referential Mage
Recursive Mage
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on March 26, 2013, 05:55:54 am
Post by: Tiruin on March 26, 2013, 06:03:29 am
Web BYORs are always cool.But this too. Never saw a Magic Mafia though
Post by: notquitethere on March 26, 2013, 07:57:51 am
Post by: webadict on March 26, 2013, 08:04:41 am
I claim Manceromancer, giving me power over magic users. Oh- what about Danceromancer! Or, uh, Red Mage with power over one end of the colour spectrum.Well, a Manceromancer would summon other summoners. But, it sounds bad, so I probably wouldn't do that.
Post by: Mephansteras on March 26, 2013, 08:48:12 am
Post by: Mephansteras on March 26, 2013, 12:34:32 pm
Post by: notquitethere on April 06, 2013, 09:05:26 am
Post by: webadict on April 06, 2013, 11:08:51 am
Sign-ups have started for Elements (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=124713.0), there are only five slots so if you want in, declare fast. If I get the interest, I'll look to start on Monday morning.Boom. I already beat the game.
Post by: Captain Ford on April 06, 2013, 05:54:09 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on April 08, 2013, 11:22:37 pm
Post by: Vector on April 08, 2013, 11:26:39 pm
Post by: Hapah on April 08, 2013, 11:26:54 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on April 08, 2013, 11:27:45 pm
Is it some BYOR variant, or... ?You can read the OP when I post it eventually.
Wait a touch. I'll play, but you should wait for D1 on Magic and Great Temple to finish.'Kay.
EDIT:
I put the thread up! (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=125058.0)
Post by: zombie urist on May 15, 2013, 09:11:41 pm
The Great Temple is pretty far in and Toon Mafia VII is about to start. Elements is in session but that game's pretty small.
Anyone want to put another game up? Possibly of the Cybrid variety. ;)
Post by: Leafsnail on May 15, 2013, 09:15:07 pm
Post by: Toaster on May 15, 2013, 09:52:07 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on May 15, 2013, 10:23:36 pm
If it's related to buying powers, I've always wanted to see how a game like that would work out.Auction Mafia.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on May 17, 2013, 12:22:31 am
Post by: Xantalos on June 05, 2013, 10:37:54 pm
Also, having finished reading The Great Temple, I can't shake the feeling that the whole thing was nothing more than a good ol game of Fronthand Backhand. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGAMbNKcN1U)
Post by: Captain Ford on June 05, 2013, 10:56:07 pm
This should be updated, should it not? :POh god, you're so right.
Also, having finished reading The Great Temple, I can't shake the feeling that the whole thing was nothing more than a good ol game of Fronthand Backhand. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGAMbNKcN1U)
Post by: Mephansteras on June 06, 2013, 11:41:04 am
Post by: Nerjin on June 06, 2013, 11:43:21 am
Post by: Dariush on June 06, 2013, 11:54:06 am
Yeah, I've been remiss in updating this thread. I'll get it cleaned up today.I'm sure it was a complete accident that you waited until there was only one running non-BM and that you're not trying to minimize the amount of work in any way. :D
Post by: Mephansteras on June 06, 2013, 11:56:27 am
Post by: birdy51 on June 06, 2013, 03:51:01 pm
Hehe. More that I waited until the game I was running was over so I didn't have more than one thing I was responsible for. :p
Ha HA!
But will soon have another game to be worrying about.
I plan on running a game of Revolution, the game that GlyphGriff made a while back here: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=122540.0
I should have the actual thread up and ready by tommorow, and I will post on this thread with the link to the new game.
Post by: Mephansteras on June 06, 2013, 04:07:10 pm
Actually, it would help if people would draw attention to what they need done in this thread so I know to go update the OP. I don't always get around to doing it by looking at the mafia section.
So you could do something like:
"Meph, please put Revolution 2 into sign-ups for me."
That would let me know there was something that needed doing rather than just people talking about maybe doing something.
Post by: birdy51 on June 06, 2013, 04:32:37 pm
Tommorow, I will post again when it is in signups, but I want to run the first page by someone for proofreading.
Post by: Captain Ford on June 06, 2013, 08:58:59 pm
Post by: zombie urist on June 06, 2013, 09:00:07 pm
Post by: birdy51 on June 06, 2013, 09:05:42 pm
Post by: birdy51 on June 07, 2013, 04:25:56 am
Here goes nothing.
Post by: Shinigami_King on June 07, 2013, 10:58:39 am
Post by: Dariush on June 07, 2013, 11:00:52 am
How about an E3 type of game split into four factions. Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft and indie. Every faction has unique power roles that could revolve around converting players or something, I don't know. Just thought that if I threw out the idea others could help come up with the rules and how the entire thing would work.This is not your personal blog to throw out random stupid shit into. This is a place to discuss upcoming games. -_-
Post by: Shinigami_King on June 07, 2013, 11:03:15 am
Post by: birdy51 on June 16, 2013, 12:20:13 am
Post by: Nerjin on June 30, 2013, 07:17:21 pm
Post by: birdy51 on June 30, 2013, 07:42:12 pm
Post by: Toaster on June 30, 2013, 08:52:19 pm
Post by: Vector on June 30, 2013, 08:54:22 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on July 01, 2013, 01:34:28 pm
So, are enough people interesting in another game right now to warrant me starting one? And, if so, any preferences on what I run?
Post by: Nerjin on July 01, 2013, 01:38:50 pm
Post by: Dariush on July 01, 2013, 01:48:58 pm
Post by: lordnincompoop on July 01, 2013, 01:56:17 pm
Great Temple > Paranormal >> Supernatural >>>>>> Totem.
The Great Temple game looked like an absolute clusterfuck in a bad way, but I'm not too sure how much of that lay at the hands of the mod, or the setup, or the players.
Maybe it was actually really good as a player. It didn't seem so, though, since more than a few people just broke down in it.
Post by: Mephansteras on July 01, 2013, 01:59:03 pm
Great Temple itself won't show up again, although I may use some aspects of it again at some point. Prince's Guard will only show up again if I can figure out how to make a Bang! style set-up work in a forum game a little better.
Paranormal or Supernatural are most likely, although a standard mafia game of some sort with another setting could be used.
I don't have any real good ideas for a Bastard style game at this point, so probably not one of those for a bit.
Post by: dakarian on July 01, 2013, 08:07:27 pm
If Meph is up for it, I can write up and hand him the details to run it.
Oh and...hi.. been a little while. Apologies for life grabbing me for so long.
Post by: Toaster on July 01, 2013, 08:18:37 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on July 01, 2013, 08:21:54 pm
Post by: Vector on July 01, 2013, 08:28:13 pm
I'll play if you modded. I love you man. I thought you'd never come back, a fragment of our golden days.
Post by: Nerjin on July 01, 2013, 08:36:47 pm
Post by: Toaster on July 01, 2013, 08:45:32 pm
Um... What?
He wrote the book on scumhunting (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=127764.msg4352546#msg4352546).
Also, this (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=50703.0).
Post by: Mephansteras on July 01, 2013, 08:48:44 pm
And, sure, I'll look over the details of your idea.
Post by: dakarian on July 01, 2013, 09:29:31 pm
(well also feel bad about how it went. The whole thing is a broken mess)
In any case, missed you guys.
Vector: this is the first time since 2009 that I've been able to really sit down and let myself settle in. It hasn't been a bad few years, but it's been...messy. It honestly still is. I KNOW I don't have any means to play a game. I'm not sure I'll be able to host anything (though I very much would love to).
My mind itches though.
Meph: wonderful! I have just about the whole of it mentally designed (it doesn't have too many moving parts). I'll write it down and send it over.
There's also a few other items in my head, mostly fixed versions of older games, but blah I don't even know how the current status of the forums are.. other than that there's far fewer games running. Not sure if it's a lack of hosts/ideas or a smaller player base. Rather not jump in and flood everyone with goofball ideas.
Post by: griffinpup on July 01, 2013, 09:36:30 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on July 01, 2013, 09:47:47 pm
Oh and...hi.. been a little while.
Holy crap.
We thought you were dead. At the very least, we were making jokes about it.
Post by: ToonyMan on July 01, 2013, 09:49:50 pm
Post by: dakarian on July 01, 2013, 09:51:35 pm
Don't be dazzled by the others, though. For someone who 'wrote the book' on hunting, I tended to fail at it a great deal more than most. They also seem to have hidden the mass of games I made that fell into ruins.
Still, I'll be happy to help if you need anything.
Jim: I'll be sure to search through the archives for them. They sound like a hoot.
Post by: Tiruin on July 01, 2013, 09:57:22 pm
Hi! :D
Post by: Nerjin on July 01, 2013, 10:02:49 pm
Post by: Vector on July 01, 2013, 10:04:13 pm
Post by: lordnincompoop on July 02, 2013, 03:32:10 am
Yeah, a lot of why we don't have so many players is that those who were playing got old enough that they now had to contend with things like jobs (me) and midterms (Pandar), and we haven't had that much new blood that stays around... plus the absence of new mods. I can barely handle 1 game nowadays, let alone 8, hoho.
Partly also why the ICs are no longer working as well as they did before.
Post by: Vector on July 02, 2013, 07:22:23 am
Post by: Mephansteras on July 02, 2013, 11:00:33 am
Post by: Dariush on July 02, 2013, 11:08:09 am
Yeah. I've been pondering an enforced 'nice' game, just to try and dial back the vitriol a bit on the subforum.So lynches become hugs while NKs become... also hugs, and saying 'fuck' gets you modhugged?
Post by: Mephansteras on July 02, 2013, 11:10:10 am
Yeah. I've been pondering an enforced 'nice' game, just to try and dial back the vitriol a bit on the subforum.So lynches become hugs while NKs become... also hugs, and saying 'fuck' gets you modhugged?
Hehe. Not quite to that level. But things like personal attacks and whatnot would be prohibited. You can attack people, you can call them scum, but none of the personal attacks and horrible behavior that Great Temple devolved into.
Post by: Toaster on July 02, 2013, 12:40:38 pm
Post by: Dariush on July 02, 2013, 12:51:44 pm
I could always host another pun-themed game if I could get the inspiration, though Mafia Salad was probably the crowning moment of my punnity here.Oh hey, that was my first game on this forum.
I don't see the point of making a game purely for the sake of flavor. If it's a vanilla mafia with a separate novelette describing each role, lynch and NK, then however well this novelette may be written, it's still a vanilla mafia.
Post by: Hapah on July 02, 2013, 01:34:13 pm
Post by: Nerjin on July 02, 2013, 01:42:48 pm
Post by: lordnincompoop on July 02, 2013, 01:51:51 pm
So lynches become hugs while NKs become... also hugs, and saying 'fuck' gets you modhugged?
This will be my next game.
Post by: Okami No Rei on July 02, 2013, 01:55:17 pm
Plus sometimes doing a regular game can make the other more "Out There" games more special. If every game is "Out There" than the spectacle sorta loses some power. I'm not saying that a ton of Vanilla games should happen but a few here or there wouldn't be too out of place.QFT - I haven't seen any non-BM Mountainous or Near Mountainous games in a long time. Is there really no demand for normal games?
Post by: ToonyMan on July 02, 2013, 02:01:19 pm
Yeah. I've been pondering an enforced 'nice' game, just to try and dial back the vitriol a bit on the subforum.That's one of my rules, but some people still don't listen.
Post by: griffinpup on July 02, 2013, 02:04:22 pm
*cough cough* Dariush *cough cough*Yeah. I've been pondering an enforced 'nice' game, just to try and dial back the vitriol a bit on the subforum.That's one of my rules, but some people still don't listen.
Post by: Dariush on July 02, 2013, 02:09:37 pm
Plus sometimes doing a regular game can make the other more "Out There" games more special. If every game is "Out There" than the spectacle sorta loses some power. I'm not saying that a ton of Vanilla games should happen but a few here or there wouldn't be too out of place.The thing is, "Out There" comprises multiple directions. We have bastards, we have BYORs, we have closed setups, we have Revolutions, we have Elements and Trusts. So I wouldn't say that, for example, bastards lose some power if they are only hosted once per several months while the rest of the time is devoted to other out-therish games.
Post by: Leafsnail on July 02, 2013, 02:15:28 pm
There are, however, a few effectively mountainous setups with other mechanics worked in to try and make it a bit more balanced and less boring, which we could have a look at, such as White Flag (3 mafia and 10 townies, but the mafia loses if they are reduced to one member).
Post by: Dariush on July 02, 2013, 02:20:07 pm
White Flag (3 mafia and 10 townies, but the mafia loses if they are reduced to one member).I like the premise, but I think that basing an entire game off it is not the best of ideas. IMO it would be better to work this mechanic into one of the more power role-heavy games (like Paranormal).
Post by: Toaster on July 02, 2013, 03:34:13 pm
Nothing necessarily wrong with a vanilla or near-vanilla game, though, if that's what people want to play.
It's good to throw them into the mix. Also, why aren't you playing?
Post by: Hapah on July 02, 2013, 03:37:43 pm
Post by: Toaster on July 02, 2013, 03:41:01 pm
I like JK9++. I'd play a game of it... or maybe host it if there's interest.
Post by: Hapah on July 02, 2013, 03:53:11 pm
Psh, you got married long ago. That's pretty much not happened now!That hasn't been so bad, but there are so many other games! (mostly Duel of Champions, Civ V, Borderlands 2)
I like JK9++. I'd play a game of it... or maybe host it if there's interest.It looks kinda interesting. Think I'll take it slow for now, though!
Post by: Toaster on July 02, 2013, 04:01:04 pm
Psh, you got married long ago. That's pretty much not happened now!That hasn't been so bad, but there are so many other games! (mostly Duel of Champions, Civ V, Borderlands 2)
Don't forget Planetside 2. (Though I've been hooked on Minecraft lately)
Post by: griffinpup on July 02, 2013, 04:05:05 pm
//Interest check initialized
- polling players
- testing parameters
- setting variables
-maintaing a stable space-time continuum
- coffee break
- pointless meeting with boss
- directives found
- search completed
Interest check +1!
Post by: Shakerag on July 02, 2013, 04:41:51 pm
FTFY
//Interest check initialized
- polling players
- testing parameters
- setting variables
- reticulating splines
-maintaing a stable space-time continuum
- coffee break
- pointless meeting with boss
- directives found
- search completed
Interest check +1!
Post by: dakarian on July 02, 2013, 05:13:58 pm
If your playstyle or situation means that getting "shoot you in the face then T-bag you while going Xbox Live about their mother" results in a better chance at catching scum (i.e. the legendary "break your target" concept) then go for it. The only catch is making sure that you don't outright scare the person away from the game wholesale. No amount of "grow some skin" or "it's a game" is enough explanation of a lost player. Besides, part of good scumhunting is to customize your attack for your target. A player that breaks easy shouldn't get the full slamdown. Otherwise, you do what you need to.
The issue comes when you do an action that ISN'T pro-town. Whether it's going after someone because they annoy you, being so aggressive that the entire town stops hunting to deal with you, or being so gosh darn nice that everyone is having too much fun to hunt, the case is still the same: you aren't hunting and/or you aren't letting others hunt. Just stop doing it.
So I don't really think we need a 'be nice' rule so much. Games like this are supposed to have 'play to win' and 'don't disrupt the game' rules. Being rude isn't bad in itself. Forgetting the game in order to be rude (not playing to win) and being rude to the point where the game comes to a stop (disruption) is unacceptable.
It would be an odd game, though, that REQUIRES you to be 'nice' to your opponent. Sort of a 1984 style. That might be super plus plus good.
Post by: Tiruin on July 02, 2013, 05:20:38 pm
Both of these make me very happy.So lynches become hugs while NKs become... also hugs, and saying 'fuck' gets you modhugged?
This will be my next game.
Post by: Jim Groovester on July 02, 2013, 05:59:26 pm
Hell, let me go ahead and ask: Interest check on JK9++?
Maybe I missed it.
What's JK9++?
Post by: ToonyMan on July 02, 2013, 06:03:38 pm
Hell, let me go ahead and ask: Interest check on JK9++?Maybe I missed it.
What's JK9++?
You could always run an open setup game, like the new BM format, but as a non-BM. Or one of the ones on mafiascum.
C9++ (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C9%2B%2B)
JK9++ (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=JK9%2B%2B)
Post by: Vector on July 02, 2013, 07:01:59 pm
Both of these make me very happy.So lynches become hugs while NKs become... also hugs, and saying 'fuck' gets you modhugged?
This will be my next game.
Actually might go play that one. Would require some creativity on my part =]
Post by: Toaster on July 02, 2013, 08:33:01 pm
It would be an odd game, though, that REQUIRES you to be 'nice' to your opponent. Sort of a 1984 style. That might be super plus plus good.
I believe you mean "doubleplusgood." Big Brother is watching you.
Post by: Leafsnail on July 02, 2013, 08:36:29 pm
Post by: dakarian on July 02, 2013, 10:30:22 pm
It would be an odd game, though, that REQUIRES you to be 'nice' to your opponent. Sort of a 1984 style. That might be super plus plus good.
I believe you mean "doubleplusgood." Big Brother is watching you.
wow.. been a long time since I read that book. I'll need to get back to that.
Why would it have no deadlines? As it is, the game just sounds like a regular mafia game with post restrictions.
Meanwhile, just looked up JK9++
That.. kind of rocks.
It does make sense to have a ..not MOUNTAINOUS build but a more basic running game for those past BM stage but aren't looking for crazy. meanwhile the two styles offer something interesting.
Post by: Dariush on July 03, 2013, 02:31:20 am
Hell, let me go ahead and ask: Interest check on JK9++?++
BTW, LNCP, were you serious about the 'nice' game being your next?
Post by: lordnincompoop on July 03, 2013, 04:20:20 am
Hell, let me go ahead and ask: Interest check on JK9++?++
BTW, LNCP, were you serious about the 'nice' game being your next?
Half serious. Might make a good silly game.
Post by: Dariush on July 03, 2013, 06:28:09 am
Post by: lordnincompoop on July 03, 2013, 07:57:41 am
Post by: Vector on July 04, 2013, 03:47:59 pm
I think we've gotten too technical and finessed here, more about mechanics than about having fun. Let's shake it up.
ETA: I might run a vanilla game with a lot of flavor in a bit, when my job cools down/finishes. It'll be using the new Beginner's Mafia setup.
Post by: Okami No Rei on July 04, 2013, 04:28:25 pm
ETA: I might run a vanilla game with a lot of flavor in a bit, when my job cools down/finishes. It'll be using the new Beginner's Mafia setup.IN
Post by: griffinpup on July 04, 2013, 04:30:50 pm
Post by: Tiruin on July 04, 2013, 04:32:52 pm
ETA: I might run a vanilla game with a lot of flavor in a bit, when my job cools down/finishes. It'll be using the new Beginner's Mafia setup.IN.
Because pre-ins are the norm, right? :P
Post by: Dariush on July 05, 2013, 03:16:39 am
I want to play something fun, out there, and possibly also poorly balanced. Just... experimental.Yes. ^10.
I think we've gotten too technical and finessed here, more about mechanics than about having fun. Let's shake it up.
Post by: dakarian on July 05, 2013, 04:15:31 am
Please, that's the easy part.
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A game where you pick a TV trope and a power is created based on that trope.
A game where Name, Role, and alignment swap each Dawn (and not all to the same place. I'm a Mafia Roleblocker named Brunhild. At Dawn Litia is now named Brunhild, Vector is now a Roleblocker, and Dariush is the Mafia. The items swap randomly)
A fixed version of Parallel Mafia
Or just grab some of the ideas of THAT game as separate game types. A mafia game involving Portal guns? A game where everyone has their own win condition that involves someone else's loss (if you're thinking "People will just team up to win?" YESSSS they will ;D ). Boadmurdered mafia?
Seriously, the trick to making sure a Crazy bastard game isn't dull is to keep the rules that the player needs to figure out/learn small (YOUR mechanics can be insane.. but most should be stuff they don't have to figure out to win/enjoy) and make sure everyone is of similar power level (if one person is overpowered, EVERYONE should be).
Also what happened to KotM? I see it went through 3 iterations so I guess it wasn't as much a Fail as I thought it was.
#*)$# I want to run one of these. *sigh* If there's ever room on the board and one of my current or future ideas has enough support, I'll run it. ON THE CONDITION that I have a co-mod. I've gone from an ex-student in between jobs to a father of 2 back in college and a possible job on the way. I'd feel much better if I knew my games were still running smoothly even though I was too busy to oversee it (i.e. spending 4 hours of the night feeding a child. Seriously how did we survive as a species if our newborns spend 4 HOURS to eat one meal!?)
I'm also more than willing to hash out ideas for others to run as well. I can fix up some of the old stuff, come up with something new, or just look over someone else's idea. I liked playing and loved modding, but I lived for game creation.
Post by: Dariush on July 05, 2013, 04:31:59 am
A game where you pick a TV trope and a power is created based on that trope.BYOTVT. This is what
Post by: Leafsnail on July 05, 2013, 07:06:03 am
Post by: Okami No Rei on July 05, 2013, 07:11:04 am
I'd be happy to run one after BMXLII is done, provided I can get a co-mod, or at least an advisor with a bit more experience to help me keep it from getting horrendously unbalanced.
Post by: Vector on July 05, 2013, 10:29:29 am
And yeah, I'll happily play through that again.
Post by: webadict on July 05, 2013, 06:12:48 pm
PM Wubba.That would only work if I ever frequented the board.
And yeah, I'll happily play through that again.
Post by: Vector on July 05, 2013, 06:15:45 pm
Post by: webadict on July 05, 2013, 06:17:09 pm
Well here you are :PWhat, where?
Also, when did this dakarian fellow revive? I thought he was dead.
Post by: dakarian on July 05, 2013, 11:07:39 pm
Then you would be forced to fight my endless legion of gangs and thugs while taking naked sauna baths and learning the art of the Acro Circus only to meet me in my fortress forged from the ruins of the BM Elephant where you, me, and your kidnapped girlfriend all play a deadly game of Townie/Mafia/SS to see who is the King of the Mafia
Once
And
For
All!
Post by: Okami No Rei on July 06, 2013, 12:14:38 am
to see who is the King of the Mafia
That would be ToonyMan, at the moment.
Post by: webadict on July 06, 2013, 01:10:34 am
I heard you slipped out, so I planned on coming in to take over the place.Oh goodness. I don't think my girlfriend would be any good at mafia... Whether that's good or bad, I'm unsure of.
Then you would be forced to fight my endless legion of gangs and thugs while taking naked sauna baths and learning the art of the Acro Circus only to meet me in my fortress forged from the ruins of the BM Elephant where you, me, and your kidnapped girlfriend all play a deadly game of Townie/Mafia/SS to see who is the King of the Mafia
Once
And
For
All!
Also, do these naked sauna baths coincide with the fighting, or am I dressed while fighting? Because naked fighting is my least favorite kind of fighting. I mean, if the combatants are also naked, it's slightly less bad, but then it starts to slip into some weird sexual nonsense, and that's just awkward for everyone.
But accidental fondling aside, you can't just show up after all this time and try to take over. That's just rude.
Post by: dakarian on July 06, 2013, 03:21:16 am
And I don't think you need to be naked when you fight, though if you want to..WAIT, toonyman's the current king?
Ok that didn't work as planned. Bah, what am I going to do with all these thugs?
Now, to get back on topic!
Okami, I'd be happy to assist along with Web (if he's both up for it and not looking to join in). The nice thing about such games is that they don't have to be so much Balanced as they need to just not be utterly broken. So long as one role doesn't completely take over the game it tends to work out.
Post by: webadict on July 06, 2013, 09:04:09 am
Oh, yeah, and ToonyMan's King. Also, Leafsnail WAS King. I felt like retrieving the crown was unfair. I'd already held it, so what's the point?
Post by: Vector on July 08, 2013, 09:55:53 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on August 02, 2013, 02:38:56 pm
After Witches' Coven and The Lonely Prince are over I can start the next King of the Mafia (the 4th I think?).
Post by: webadict on August 04, 2013, 10:23:12 am
I can always wait and do it some other time, but it's mostly because I need a time waster these days.
Also, if you are interested in a BYOR, and there's a fair amount of positive feedback, feel free to send your role in immediately, since I can start immediately. Plus, making roles takes a bit of time.
It all really just matters whether y'all're in for odd mafia escapades. If not, I'll run one some other time. They're just fun, silly, time-wasters.
Post by: Teneb on August 04, 2013, 10:57:13 am
Post by: griffinpup on August 04, 2013, 11:29:14 am
Post by: lordnincompoop on August 04, 2013, 11:55:34 am
I've never played a BYOR, so what are the limitations?
You know, you should really get to reading some of the old games here. Not only is it educational, you'll get to know a bunch of typical mafia gametypes and how they play, and build player meta.
BYOR is just an action-heavy game where you get to send in the name for your own role (such as Resurrected Vampire Werewolf Michael Jackson).
Post by: Hapah on August 04, 2013, 12:36:55 pm
Post by: webadict on August 04, 2013, 12:41:35 pm
I've never played a BYOR, so what are the limitations?There's not many. You send in any role. If it isn't something common like Power or something, you should send in a short description or a link. I have decided I'll accept videos now, so long as they aren't too long. So if you want Ace Ventura, Pet Detective, send in a short description.
Some more examples of things you can send in:
TVTropes
Random Wikipedia article
A username
Characters from a movie or game
A movie or game
A generic object
An idea
A place
A famous historical fiction writer
A porn star (uhhh... No videos, thank you.)
Executive orders
A word or letter
Nothing
Like, if you can think of it, you can enter it. Just give me some wiggle room for creative adjustments. I also don't know everything, and occasionally know nothing, so adjust for that when describing it.
Post by: TheWetSheep on August 04, 2013, 02:15:10 pm
On another note, I was reading some of the old Vengeful Mafias and thought I might like to run one to try my hand at modding. Would anyone be interested?
Post by: TolyK on August 04, 2013, 02:16:36 pm
Also, thanks for your sig, Wuba. :P
Post by: Leafsnail on August 04, 2013, 02:19:08 pm
Post by: TheWetSheep on August 04, 2013, 02:29:11 pm
Post by: Vector on August 04, 2013, 02:56:33 pm
Post by: Teneb on August 04, 2013, 03:39:20 pm
Post by: TolyK on August 04, 2013, 04:31:10 pm
Post by: Ottofar on August 04, 2013, 05:53:47 pm
How short? Would it definitely be over in a week?
There is a maximum of two in-game days. It depends on how much the players extend, but you can set limits on that.
Anyways, it's so low-maintenance the players can basically mod it by themselves once the roles are out.
Post by: webadict on August 04, 2013, 06:51:01 pm
Wuba, are you already accepting roles? I'd rather send one before I change my mind and regret it later.Sure. I think there's enough support.
Post by: Leafsnail on August 05, 2013, 02:28:30 pm
Post by: TheWetSheep on August 05, 2013, 04:39:24 pm
Post by: Vector on August 13, 2013, 12:32:31 pm
So. Are there any themed games that someone would like to see? I could run a small Hatoful Boyfriend-themed thing in a bit, but I wanted to take requests now because it takes me so long to get a feel for the sort of thing I want to do.
Post by: webadict on August 13, 2013, 12:50:48 pm
I'm expecting to really phase into modding over playing soon--turns out that I seem to enjoy one more than the other right now, and the forum needs more dedicated modders.The cycle continues...
So. Are there any themed games that someone would like to see? I could run a small Hatoful Boyfriend-themed thing in a bit, but I wanted to take requests now because it takes me so long to get a feel for the sort of thing I want to do.
Post by: lordnincompoop on August 13, 2013, 02:07:06 pm
The cycle continues...
It'll come full-circle once we all retire in 50-60 years and have time to play Mafia again.
Post by: webadict on August 13, 2013, 02:08:57 pm
Bah... By that point we'll need to rename Godfather to Grandfather.The cycle continues...
It'll come full-circle once we all retire in 50-60 years and have time to play Mafia again.
Post by: Vector on August 13, 2013, 02:17:14 pm
. . . I have ideas for something Pacific Rim-based, as well. By the way. Because I'm pretty obsessed with that at the moment.
Post by: webadict on August 13, 2013, 02:51:26 pm
It's not that I lack time in the least, mostly that I have more creativity than aggression in me at the moment. Playing has sort of lost its luster for me, I guess. I feel like the subforum is taking a lot fewer risks in general with its modding, so I'm here to provide crazy, experimental games. The sort of behavioral sleuthing we do here can get a little dull after four years of it, especially if there's few mechanical puzzles to go along with it.Wanna be mod-buddies some time?
. . . I have ideas for something Pacific Rim-based, as well. By the way. Because I'm pretty obsessed with that at the moment.
Post by: Vector on August 13, 2013, 02:53:30 pm
Post by: Reverie on August 17, 2013, 09:08:37 am
It's not that I lack time in the least, mostly that I have more creativity than aggression in me at the moment. Playing has sort of lost its luster for me, I guess. I feel like the subforum is taking a lot fewer risks in general with its modding, so I'm here to provide crazy, experimental games. The sort of behavioral sleuthing we do here can get a little dull after four years of it, especially if there's few mechanical puzzles to go along with it.
. . . I have ideas for something Pacific Rim-based, as well. By the way. Because I'm pretty obsessed with that at the moment.
Haha, I think a lack of aggression is my problem with mafia, but all the time. I come across as too soft, I think.
Post by: birdy51 on August 17, 2013, 09:14:40 am
It's not that I lack time in the least, mostly that I have more creativity than aggression in me at the moment. Playing has sort of lost its luster for me, I guess. I feel like the subforum is taking a lot fewer risks in general with its modding, so I'm here to provide crazy, experimental games. The sort of behavioral sleuthing we do here can get a little dull after four years of it, especially if there's few mechanical puzzles to go along with it.
. . . I have ideas for something Pacific Rim-based, as well. By the way. Because I'm pretty obsessed with that at the moment.
Haha, I think a lack of aggression is my problem with mafia, but all the time. I come across as too soft, I think.
The fact that you added "I think" at the end throws you into the same boat as me. I have long standing issues with contradicting my own statements with those two evil words.
I'm working on trying to get rid of them out of my vocabulary. ;.;
Post by: Reverie on August 17, 2013, 09:22:41 am
The fact that you added "I think" at the end throws you into the same boat as me. I have long standing issues with contradicting my own statements with those two evil words.
I'm working on trying to get rid of them out of my vocabulary. ;.;
I have a bit of trouble evaluating and appraising myself, and usually don't cross that line and instead just let other people determine their own opinions of me. It's a downfall of mine that I can't sell my strengths or speak highly of myself, or anything of that nature. Saying that I think I am too soft is just a combination of the above and a mark of not really being sure if I am or not (because I rarely get angry and I never get assertive when it happens). I'd break down and cry first.
I'm glad mafia is online and not in person. lol
Post by: lordnincompoop on August 17, 2013, 10:05:07 am
Post by: birdy51 on August 18, 2013, 09:04:58 pm
The fact that you added "I think" at the end throws you into the same boat as me. I have long standing issues with contradicting my own statements with those two evil words.
I'm working on trying to get rid of them out of my vocabulary. ;.;
I have a bit of trouble evaluating and appraising myself, and usually don't cross that line and instead just let other people determine their own opinions of me. It's a downfall of mine that I can't sell my strengths or speak highly of myself, or anything of that nature. Saying that I think I am too soft is just a combination of the above and a mark of not really being sure if I am or not (because I rarely get angry and I never get assertive when it happens). I'd break down and cry first.
I'm glad mafia is online and not in person. lol
While this may seem contrived... I know exactly what you mean. I don't get angry easily. But when I do get angry, it ends poorly for me. Fighting someone in real life, or witnessing a nasty fight between two people I care about is hard on me emotionally, to the point where I can no longer stomach human interaction and I find some kind of corner to break down in.
But... That is also why I started playing Mafia. I want to gain some sort of confidence. Confidence and the ability to support myself in those kind of situations is something I often lack... Add on to this the fact that I am currently training to be vocalist and you have a potential mess!
Mafia provides help to build that kind of confidence. If you aren't confident here, you die! :D
But hey, even if we do die, we have words to fall back upon. Losing is fun!
Post by: webadict on August 18, 2013, 09:27:40 pm
Post by: notquitethere on August 18, 2013, 11:38:14 pm
Post by: Vector on August 22, 2013, 05:31:29 pm
Post by: Tiruin on August 22, 2013, 06:26:11 pm
Hi, here to troll for a Lonely Prince replacement~. Fortunately Webadict was able to replace back in after being eaten D1, but anyone else who wants to join this ridiculous game would be much appreciated.Advertising company here: This isn't ridiculous! :D
Post by: Vector on August 26, 2013, 04:08:33 pm
How do we feel? Is anyone interested?
Post by: Toaster on August 26, 2013, 07:14:42 pm
Post by: Nerjin on August 26, 2013, 09:53:47 pm
Post by: TheWetSheep on August 28, 2013, 10:55:09 pm
Post by: Vector on August 28, 2013, 11:16:47 pm
EDIT: Please updoot the OP to reflect recent changes, Meph~
Post by: lordnincompoop on August 29, 2013, 02:44:12 am
One of the biggest culprits is the length of a game. For many people that have come here, the standard long-format three, four week Mafia game is simply too much to bear. Longer days don't help but can exacerbate the problem: Interest will invariably wane over those days, but as there is an expectation that they need to stick around, they're able to do so because of the lower posting requirement, leading to uninterested lurkers that stick around because they have to. Obviously this doesn't apply to people who leave because of schoolwork/work/vacations/etc. but it should apply to many new players.
As a solution to this problem, I propose a new short-format Mafia game directed at new players to play before the current BM or alongside it. Call it Beginner's Mafia Sprint, or Mafia Trial Version or something. The purpose of this is to create a fun, intense session of Mafia that can be played on short notice and with little commitment, which should be perfect for the entering casual player with little patience. I'm trying to come up with one myself, but it's taking time.
Thoughts?
Post by: Vector on August 29, 2013, 02:52:08 am
Anyway. I think that a "sprint" game might be appropriate.
Post by: notquitethere on August 29, 2013, 02:59:52 am
Post by: Vector on August 29, 2013, 03:14:06 am
Post by: Okami No Rei on August 29, 2013, 11:29:59 am
Start it on a Friday night, with days 4-6 hours long, and 1-2 hour nights (or five-minute nights, since everyone should be online). Have play suspended between midnight and 8:00am (work out which time-zone between all the players before-hand) so everyone has a chance to sleep, but otherwise treat it as a marathon session where everyone is expected to check in at least once per hour (two hours?).
Or maybe a weekender's mafia?
Days are Friday - Sunday, nights are Monday - Thursday. That way those of us with school/jobs don't need to check in during the week, when we're busy.
Post by: webadict on August 29, 2013, 12:08:57 pm
Post by: Toaster on August 29, 2013, 12:21:42 pm
Web, you should make an isketch mafia!
Post by: Mephansteras on August 29, 2013, 12:52:59 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on August 29, 2013, 01:19:07 pm
The primary issue there was that hosting them was a lot of work. But I would much, much MUCH prefer to actually play in that sort of game.
Post by: Leafsnail on August 29, 2013, 01:19:45 pm
On an unrelated note, I kindof want to run a Kill Everyone Mafia (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Kill_Everyone_Mafia) sometime.
e: actually, any nightless setup could work better for beginner games, long breaks tend to damage interest in the game.
Post by: GlyphGryph on August 29, 2013, 01:22:18 pm
Post by: Vector on August 29, 2013, 01:30:53 pm
I try to ask people to get in their night actions ASAP and usually about half get them in the moment the lynch is written up, while the other half will send right before deadline, if then.
Post by: birdy51 on August 29, 2013, 01:31:43 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on August 29, 2013, 01:33:45 pm
Hmm... I need nighttime to write buttloads of PMs, and always appreciated long nights as a time to get my second wind while playing.
I try to ask people to get in their night actions ASAP and usually about half get them in the moment the lynch is written up, while the other half will send right before deadline, if then.
Hence my idea for a quick day/night cycle being for a flavor-light game. I don't think I could rush a Paranormal or Supernatural night too much, simply due to the time I need to write flavor. Although I have cut people short when they take too long to send in night actions.
Post by: GlyphGryph on August 29, 2013, 01:44:43 pm
Post by: lordnincompoop on August 29, 2013, 01:48:43 pm
My previous "2 days per day, single 1-day extension, instant night" sort of games certainly seemed to be enjoyable for the players, who thought it moved at a good clip (if I remember correctly).
The primary issue there was that hosting them was a lot of work. But I would much, much MUCH prefer to actually play in that sort of game.
This is almost exactly what I had drafted up, actually. It'd run as follows:
Using a seven player setup (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bird_7P), the game would have instant nights whereby players submit their actions on the day before (such as N1 actions submitted D1). With two days per Day, the seven player setup would take a maximum of six days to complete, and there would only be one available extension for the entire game - the seventh day, so that with the extension used on some Day the entire thing would only take a week to play. In most cases, there would only be two Days and thus would be completed within a normal 5-day work week.
While flavour is nice, that's not really what should be advertised. This could just be run with some light whimsical flavour, or no flavour at all; it'd just make the core Mafia gameplay stand out that much more.
Post by: Leafsnail on August 29, 2013, 03:17:08 pm
Post by: Vector on August 29, 2013, 03:30:46 pm
While flavour is nice, that's not really what should be advertised. This could just be run with some light whimsical flavour, or no flavour at all; it'd just make the core Mafia gameplay stand out that much more.
Yeah, I definitely agree for BMs. I don't think I will ever run something alone that has zero flavor, but I think it's generally appropriate not to weigh down a beginner game too much. Do people worry about screwing up the story the mod is telling? I don't know. I wish they wouldn't, since I'm ready for just about any permutation :X
Post by: webadict on August 29, 2013, 04:55:00 pm
Web, you should make an isketch mafia!How to do:
1) Draw a round of iSketch from any wordlist. Save your picture, but remove the word.
2) Send the picture to me. I try to guess what it is. That's your role.
Done. What other games need making?
Post by: Leafsnail on August 29, 2013, 04:58:26 pm
Post by: Okami No Rei on August 30, 2013, 10:16:49 am
Post by: TolyK on August 30, 2013, 11:11:17 am
Post by: Hapah on August 30, 2013, 11:19:33 am
I'm almost always up for BYO-style games. :P
Post by: webadict on August 30, 2013, 11:48:13 am
Post by: lordnincompoop on August 30, 2013, 01:48:22 pm
Oh, and I was wondering whether it'd be a good idea to try the non-participant ICs again. The concern is mainly due to the tendency of newbie scum to nightkill the ICs and reduce their capacity to teach, but I'm not sure how significant that is.
Post by: webadict on August 30, 2013, 02:16:26 pm
You know, I kind of want to run a BM Sprint now using the setup I explained. Too soon?Not very. Even if the IC were dead, they can help out, and you even have the mod readily available to give assistance. Overall, ICs don't stand that much in the way.
Oh, and I was wondering whether it'd be a good idea to try the non-participant ICs again. The concern is mainly due to the tendency of newbie scum to nightkill the ICs and reduce their capacity to teach, but I'm not sure how significant that is.
Post by: TheWetSheep on August 30, 2013, 11:06:30 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on September 19, 2013, 03:49:18 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on September 22, 2013, 09:30:37 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on September 26, 2013, 01:02:55 pm
Post by: Darvi on September 30, 2013, 02:50:18 pm
Post by: lordnincompoop on September 30, 2013, 04:29:49 pm
Post by: Darvi on September 30, 2013, 05:00:13 pm
Post by: lordnincompoop on October 03, 2013, 08:10:36 pm
This sounds like a clever, science-based take on the Mafia concept. Thoughts?
Post by: Leafsnail on October 03, 2013, 08:27:55 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on October 03, 2013, 08:28:44 pm
I guess it never got past Night 2 for some reason.
Post by: Leafsnail on October 04, 2013, 11:14:51 am
I have some thoughts about the setup that I'll post in the Mafia Gametypes thread.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on October 06, 2013, 01:18:30 pm
Yeah I f'd it up a bit.
Post by: ToonyMan on October 20, 2013, 12:25:14 pm
With Vector's Lonely Prince and LNCP's Witches' Coven 3 games over we only have a BM running along with Webadict's BYOR12 and Meph's Supernatural 6 in sign-ups, correct?
I can start King of the Mafia 4 after these games are over.
Post by: webadict on October 20, 2013, 07:39:49 pm
Also, it would be nice to see the next King. I have a few guesses as to whom the crown might belong.
Post by: Toaster on October 20, 2013, 08:44:50 pm
I still want to run JK9++ at some point. Maybe once BYOR is on D3 or so.
Post by: webadict on October 20, 2013, 09:06:59 pm
Not I- I'm getting worse as I play more, apparently.Your playstyle is too townlike.
I still want to run JK9++ at some point. Maybe once BYOR is on D3 or so.
Post by: Nerjin on October 20, 2013, 09:47:30 pm
Post by: Toaster on October 20, 2013, 10:38:29 pm
Post by: webadict on October 20, 2013, 11:31:57 pm
Not any more, apparently- I'm getting lynched a lot more. I think it started slipping around Simple BYOR.It's okay. I'm not that great now either. We're part of an older breed. These kids are crazy.
Oh well. That's why I run BYORs. It's a lot crazier and it's more for fun.
Post by: zombie urist on October 21, 2013, 12:24:47 am
Most of the new players get pretty close to everyone else in ~5-6 games IMO
Post by: webadict on October 21, 2013, 12:48:34 am
I don't think anyone on this board is significantly better than anyone else at this game other than the new players.It's not necessarily about better or worse. It's just difference.
Most of the new players get pretty close to everyone else in ~5-6 games IMO
Post by: notquitethere on October 24, 2013, 09:02:37 am
Post by: zombie urist on October 25, 2013, 02:39:40 pm
Witches Coven and Lonely Prince are both finished.
Supernatural VI has started.
BYOR12 is about to start.
I think Elements 3 is cancelled. I think Vector said something about Mad Scientist coming up and Toony's planning KotM.
Post by: Nerjin on October 25, 2013, 03:50:27 pm
Post by: Vector on October 25, 2013, 08:20:33 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on November 22, 2013, 04:42:55 pm
What do people have planned?
Are there things people would like to see run?
Post by: zombie urist on November 22, 2013, 05:06:41 pm
Post by: Imp on November 22, 2013, 05:39:18 pm
About them Paranormals. Could someone suggest 1-3 of those which were really 'neat' for a readthrough?
I started to read the OP of the most recent one, got somewhere through reading the role descriptions, and started to think I wasn't sure it was that 'me' or not. So I'd like to start my read-throughs of those with an 'oh yeah, this is good!' one - one that was anyone's favorite would probably do.
Post by: Persus13 on November 22, 2013, 06:51:47 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on November 22, 2013, 07:07:53 pm
About them Paranormals. Could someone suggest 1-3 of those which were really 'neat' for a readthrough?Paranormal 13 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=48208.0), Paranormal 16 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=57352.0), and Paranormal 20 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=97189.0) are all in the Notable Games Archive so there's probably some merit there.
I started to read the OP of the most recent one, got somewhere through reading the role descriptions, and started to think I wasn't sure it was that 'me' or not. So I'd like to start my read-throughs of those with an 'oh yeah, this is good!' one - one that was anyone's favorite would probably do.
Post by: Leafsnail on November 22, 2013, 07:49:34 pm
Jungle Republic (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jungle_Republic)
(I'd tweak the win conditions a bit, not sure if I could get enough players for this. Scum proportion: 38%
Kill Everyone (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Kill_Everyone_Mafia)
Scum proportion: 43%
We Need a Fifth (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=We_Need_A_Fifth)
Scum proportion: 50%
(I like this one because there's only one other townie in the game if you're town)
Post by: zombie urist on November 22, 2013, 07:56:02 pm
We Need a Fifth (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=We_Need_A_Fifth)Lets do this one first :)
Scum proportion: 50%
(I like this one because there's only one other townie in the game if you're town)
Post by: Max White on November 22, 2013, 08:05:50 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on November 22, 2013, 08:13:11 pm
Post by: Vector on November 22, 2013, 09:00:41 pm
Post by: Toaster on November 22, 2013, 09:58:40 pm
I'd say Paranormal then Supernatural for Meph Games.
Post by: Imp on November 22, 2013, 10:00:11 pm
Another Supernatural :D
About them Paranormals. Could someone suggest 1-3 of those which were really 'neat' for a readthrough?
I started to read the OP of the most recent one, got somewhere through reading the role descriptions, and started to think I wasn't sure it was that 'me' or not. So I'd like to start my read-throughs of those with an 'oh yeah, this is good!' one - one that was anyone's favorite would probably do.
I'm withdrawing my request for another Supernatural. I'm not sure what I want to play next anymore.
Post by: webadict on November 22, 2013, 11:08:29 pm
Post by: Nerjin on November 22, 2013, 11:10:16 pm
Post by: webadict on November 23, 2013, 01:52:23 am
Literally just sent it back at ya.It's so much amazing.
Post by: Max White on November 23, 2013, 01:54:27 am
Post by: webadict on November 23, 2013, 01:59:14 am
Nerjin and webadict why the need to buddy each other to gain interest in your game?Well, I mean, I'm webadict. I don't even need to gain interest most of the time. However, this game is very promising. It's slightly crazier than your average BYOR, contains a fair bit of wit and humor, and hopefully starts a trend of mod partnerships. I think the combination of styles will make for interesting games.
Post by: Max White on November 23, 2013, 02:13:25 am
Post by: webadict on November 23, 2013, 02:19:22 am
A likely story, for a scum player trying to cover their ass.Now why would I, a scum player, need to cover my backside?
Wait.
Post by: Max White on November 23, 2013, 02:31:12 am
Post by: TolyK on November 23, 2013, 02:37:19 am
TolyK TolyK
Post by: Tiruin on November 23, 2013, 05:53:26 am
Aw, something wrong? :(Another Supernatural :D
About them Paranormals. Could someone suggest 1-3 of those which were really 'neat' for a readthrough?
I started to read the OP of the most recent one, got somewhere through reading the role descriptions, and started to think I wasn't sure it was that 'me' or not. So I'd like to start my read-throughs of those with an 'oh yeah, this is good!' one - one that was anyone's favorite would probably do.
Do ya have any notes on what is the generally favored game-type most will to play? :DNerjin and webadict why the need to buddy each other to gain interest in your game?Well, I mean, I'm webadict. I don't even need to gain interest most of the time. However, this game is very promising. It's slightly crazier than your average BYOR, contains a fair bit of wit and humor, and hopefully starts a trend of mod partnerships. I think the combination of styles will make for interesting games.
Post by: webadict on November 23, 2013, 08:18:17 am
Otherwise, games with decent flavor.
Post by: TolyK on November 23, 2013, 01:04:24 pm
Post by: Nerjin on November 23, 2013, 10:29:17 pm
Post by: webadict on November 23, 2013, 11:27:16 pm
What sort've help do you need?$60,000 in a paper bag.
Post by: Nerjin on November 23, 2013, 11:34:03 pm
Post by: webadict on November 23, 2013, 11:35:19 pm
How coincidental! I just happen to have that right here!WTF? This is $72,000! I SAID $60,000!
Post by: Nerjin on November 23, 2013, 11:36:13 pm
Post by: webadict on November 23, 2013, 11:39:05 pm
You get what you get man. Make due.Oh, and what do you expect me to do?! Just TAKE the $12,000 out of the bag? Do I look like a peasant just because I'm wearing a potato sack for clothing?! Freakin' amateurs.
Post by: Vector on November 23, 2013, 11:39:40 pm
Post by: webadict on November 23, 2013, 11:53:57 pm
The extra $12,000 is to make a game with me :II can just throw the money at you, right?
Post by: TolyK on November 24, 2013, 11:11:10 am
>.>
Post by: Max White on November 24, 2013, 02:55:03 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on November 24, 2013, 03:49:21 pm
Post by: Imp on November 24, 2013, 04:10:44 pm
Hey kids, you wanna try some mafia? Only the good stuff, none of that vanilla crap, this is premium!
Hehehe. So glad you're back playing Mafia, Max. Can we keep you for a while? Please? Pretty Please? A few extra pleases sprinkled atop?
Post by: Max White on November 24, 2013, 04:12:47 pm
Post by: Imp on November 24, 2013, 04:18:25 pm
Fine, but when I crash the wagon and your carrots and cabbages are scattered everywhere and everybody is sad, just know I'm laughing every minute of it.
Your style of 'cruelty', what I know about it - I rather approve of. I also know you're likely to not insult me, not bully me, and not be a genuine jerk (TM) - at least not past some probably sharply defined limits.
Besides, the way you 'laugh' makes it easier to laugh along with you. I can need help with that sometimes.
Post by: notquitethere on November 25, 2013, 08:38:30 am
Post by: ToonyMan on November 25, 2013, 10:57:25 am
Post by: Imp on November 25, 2013, 01:49:00 pm
Just to float the idea, would there be interest if I were to run a Choose-Your-Own-Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=44314.msg4788387#msg4788387) game when it's ready?
I'm in that 'maybe becoming addicted' to Mafia stage, that stage where sometimes the stuff makes you feel sick and sometimes you crave more?
I'm probably going to be willing to be involved in any Mafia game being played for a bit, if only as an absolute last resort replacement if no one else has stepped up to fill in.
Post by: webadict on November 25, 2013, 04:19:23 pm
Hahaha... Just wait until you get past that part and become a veteran. Then you become a mod. Then you become a veteran mod. If you're still here after that, you get to have your name among the top.Just to float the idea, would there be interest if I were to run a Choose-Your-Own-Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=44314.msg4788387#msg4788387) game when it's ready?
I'm in that 'maybe becoming addicted' to Mafia stage, that stage where sometimes the stuff makes you feel sick and sometimes you crave more?
I'm probably going to be willing to be involved in any Mafia game being played for a bit, if only as an absolute last resort replacement if no one else has stepped up to fill in.
Post by: Mephansteras on November 25, 2013, 04:21:56 pm
Post by: webadict on November 25, 2013, 04:52:06 pm
What do people think about Paranormal Sign-ups going up now and the game starting next week? Or would it be better to hold off a week?Sure.
Post by: Toaster on November 26, 2013, 08:40:35 am
Post by: makeinu on November 26, 2013, 10:39:02 am
Noob player on this forum, but can I join? :D
Post by: notquitethere on November 26, 2013, 11:11:30 am
*raises hand*There'll be another regular beginner-friendly Mafia game as soon the current one winds down. The Sprint BM (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=130747.0) may or may not still be going ahead, so it might be worth saying IN there too.
Noob player on this forum, but can I join? :D
Wise Old Ones Any reason why a new BM couldn't be started while a current one is winding down?
Post by: webadict on November 26, 2013, 11:40:52 am
Wise Old Ones Any reason why a new BM couldn't be started while a current one is winding down?The only reason it hasn't been is because there usually isn't enough players.
We might lose replacements, but most beginners don't want to replace anyhow, so I say go for it.
Post by: Mephansteras on November 26, 2013, 12:02:02 pm
Looks like there are several people wanting to put a game up- should we formalize the list again?
Sounds good.
Mods, please let me know what games you want me to put up on the list and where you want it (Planned, Queue, Signups).
Paranormal 23 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=133676.0) is now is Signups.
Post by: Toaster on November 26, 2013, 12:07:29 pm
Post by: notquitethere on November 26, 2013, 12:09:05 pm
Mods, please let me know what games you want me to put up on the list and where you want it (Planned, Queue, Signups).Throw Choose-Your-Own-Mafia in the queue after Toaster.
Post by: ToonyMan on November 26, 2013, 12:21:43 pm
Post by: webadict on November 26, 2013, 04:03:56 pm
Post by: Vector on November 26, 2013, 09:33:04 pm
Post by: webadict on November 26, 2013, 09:34:56 pm
The Iron Diadem should be in planned (from Webadict and myself, if he's still interested on working on it); Mad Science Mafia will go in planned as well, but it'll hop to queue soon enough.Oooo, I like the name. And yes, I am!
Post by: Elephant Parade on November 27, 2013, 01:16:24 am
Post by: Imp on November 27, 2013, 02:32:13 am
Are signups for the Beginner's Mafia open yet?
Not that I see, but I think there's every chance of you and all the interested people getting a spot once they are. There will be a new thread with this as part of the title: 'Beginner's Mafia XLIV:'
I also think that thread will be opening up really soon, days if not hours from now, since the last BM is ended.
Post by: Jim Groovester on November 27, 2013, 02:45:57 am
Are signups for the Beginner's Mafia open yet?
I'm working on it. Don't worry, it'll be up in a day or so.
Post by: Max White on November 27, 2013, 02:49:27 am
I'm working on it.
Hurry Jim! Without that game the newbies will never learn!
Don't worry, it'll be up in a day or so.
I sure hope so, think of the children!
Damn Jim, could you be any more 90s action hero? I mean shit, might as well actually be Bruce Willis.
Post by: Imp on November 27, 2013, 02:59:40 am
Post by: Jim Groovester on November 27, 2013, 03:03:16 am
Damn Jim, could you be any more 90s action hero? I mean shit, might as well actually be Bruce Willis.
I haven't taken my shirt off yet, so there's that.
Post by: Max White on November 27, 2013, 03:04:27 am
Post by: Skyrunner on November 27, 2013, 03:12:25 am
Post by: Jim Groovester on November 27, 2013, 03:26:58 am
Which is still a lot.
Post by: Max White on November 27, 2013, 03:45:27 am
And more importantly, the number Wubba has been in?
Post by: Skyrunner on November 27, 2013, 04:08:35 am
We're actually at 44 Beginner's Mafias.Hehe, I misread L as 100 like a
Which is still a lot.
Post by: notquitethere on November 27, 2013, 06:03:17 am
Post by: Tiruin on November 27, 2013, 06:09:29 am
Just that you're busy :(
Also Jim, I can host one instead. I've got stuffs ready and I'm not that burdened (anymore) IRL due to foresight coordination. :I
Post by: Toaster on November 27, 2013, 08:52:12 am
Damn Jim, could you be any more 90s action hero? I mean shit, might as well actually be Bruce Willis.
I haven't taken my shirt off yet, so there's that.
/swoon
Hey Toaster, you got a time-frame in mind for starting JK9++?
Hmm... how about I open signups on D2 of Paranormal, or end of BYOR12, whichever comes first? Two games at once seems to be about our quota these days. It needs thirteen players exactly, which might be a bit tricky for that last one or two.
Post by: notquitethere on November 27, 2013, 09:03:57 am
Hmm... how about I open signups on D2 of Paranormal, or end of BYOR12, whichever comes first? Two games at once seems to be about our quota these days. It needs thirteen players exactly, which might be a bit tricky for that last one or two.Sounds good to me boss. If we keep a steady stream of two games on at a time (not including BMs) we should be fine for numbers.
Post by: Jim Groovester on November 27, 2013, 05:09:56 pm
Also Jim, I can host one instead. I've got stuffs ready and I'm not that burdened (anymore) IRL due to foresight coordination. :I
Alright, be my guest. I'll take the next one.
Post by: webadict on November 27, 2013, 08:44:13 pm
Post by: notquitethere on December 03, 2013, 04:55:36 am
Post by: Persus13 on December 03, 2013, 05:48:18 pm
Also add The Good the Bad and the Ugly to planned please.
Post by: Max White on December 03, 2013, 06:48:48 pm
Any opinions on how this would affect play?
Post by: Persus13 on December 03, 2013, 06:52:28 pm
So I'm thinking an interesting mechanic would be if a player chose to not vote at the end of the day, the next day their vote counts for double, and then if they continue to not vote when it comes to the lynch their vote counts triple, and so on. Basically every day you don't end the day voting, your vote gains power, and then if you use it you go back to only having a standard vote.If I were a scum player I'd wait to vote until D3 and use my triple vote to lynch someone.
Any opinions on how this would affect play?
Post by: Mephansteras on December 03, 2013, 06:56:30 pm
So I'm thinking an interesting mechanic would be if a player chose to not vote at the end of the day, the next day their vote counts for double, and then if they continue to not vote when it comes to the lynch their vote counts triple, and so on. Basically every day you don't end the day voting, your vote gains power, and then if you use it you go back to only having a standard vote.
Any opinions on how this would affect play?
That's rather powerful, as Persus points out. Would work fine in a Vote Mafia set-up, though. Or perhaps a BYOR style game, since those tend to have higher power thresholds.
Post by: Max White on December 03, 2013, 07:00:11 pm
If I were a scum player I'd wait to vote until D3 and use my triple vote to lynch someone.But vote saving would single you out as scum pretty quickly. Trying to go for a triple vote requires two days worth of not voting, and that will draw some attention.
Post by: webadict on December 03, 2013, 08:25:28 pm
So, instead, you would get everyone forcing people to vote, since withholding your vote gives you unnecessarily more power.If I were a scum player I'd wait to vote until D3 and use my triple vote to lynch someone.But vote saving would single you out as scum pretty quickly. Trying to go for a triple vote requires two days worth of not voting, and that will draw some attention.
Post by: Max White on December 03, 2013, 08:27:54 pm
Post by: webadict on December 03, 2013, 08:35:50 pm
Pretty much, but that adds another dynamic into the game for people to read. Normally trying to force somebody to vote for the sake of voting isn't the most townie thing...It also creates more dynamic Day game. And lylo becomes far more strenuous.
However, is there hammers? It could prove to be anti-Town.
Post by: Max White on December 03, 2013, 08:38:41 pm
Post by: webadict on December 03, 2013, 08:41:26 pm
Post by: Teneb on December 05, 2013, 07:00:07 pm
EDIT: Nevermind what I said above, internet connection and electricity in general were not affected.
Post by: Imp on December 06, 2013, 04:12:20 pm
Saying this because I think I might feel pretty frustrated if I had been a first time player in the sprint BM - and I think hearing that would help me feel better about Mafia overall despite any feelings I had about it being 'way too short', 'way to rushed', and 'impossible for me or anyone to play under those conditions' - but I don't think I would have understood that fast that not all Mafia's played on a sprint timescale, so I should play further.
Post by: Elephant Parade on December 06, 2013, 04:14:22 pm
I am reconsidering my opinion of very very short BMs. They might be a good thing! Though hopefully these won't be the only type of BM offered - I wasn't tempted as a never-played-before to join the sprint. I think it would be helpful for the ICs of such games to mention that these are extremely short games, any players who like the game, but find it 'too short' or 'too quick' are going to probably really enjoy the less time restricted games - and that sprint BMs are purposefully 'super short' to make sure that players can learn what Mafia is like here fast, even if it's too fast.
Saying this because I think I might feel pretty frustrated if I had been a first time player in the sprint BM - and I think hearing that would help me feel better about Mafia overall despite any feelings I had about it being 'way too short', 'way to rushed', and 'impossible for me or anyone to play under those conditions' - but I don't think I would have understood that fast that not all Mafia's played on a sprint timescale, so I should play further.
I found it too short, but that's because I got nightkilled first night. :P
Post by: Imp on December 06, 2013, 04:27:49 pm
I found it too short, but that's because I got nightkilled first night. :P
*hugs and comforts* We're not allowed to talk about games that are not finished yet, but Sprint BM is the shortest, fastest, most 'savage' in timesense sort of game I've ever seen here (I'm new, so I haven't seen a lot yet... but still).
Thing is, if you like Mafia but would rather play longer games then that, go for it - because -every- other game is longer than that as far as I know.
There's two games going on right now, BYOR12 and Paranormal 23. You could offer to be a replacement in either of those if you wanted too, and of course BM44 won't be rushed and that will start right after a second IC person joins. With school and college finals ending soon for many players, I suspect after next week we'll have someone eligible to join us step up.
So, ElePar, keep up hope! There's lots of good, rich, satisfying Mafia in your future!
Post by: Elephant Parade on December 06, 2013, 04:58:13 pm
I found it too short, but that's because I got nightkilled first night. :P
*hugs and comforts* We're not allowed to talk about games that are not finished yet, but Sprint BM is the shortest, fastest, most 'savage' in timesense sort of game I've ever seen here (I'm new, so I haven't seen a lot yet... but still).
Thing is, if you like Mafia but would rather play longer games then that, go for it - because -every- other game is longer than that as far as I know.
There's two games going on right now, BYOR12 and Paranormal 23. You could offer to be a replacement in either of those if you wanted too, and of course BM44 won't be rushed and that will start right after a second IC person joins. With school and college finals ending soon for many players, I suspect after next week we'll have someone eligible to join us step up.
So, ElePar, keep up hope! There's lots of good, rich, satisfying Mafia in your future!
Ah. I figured complaining about dying would be fine, since it's not like my death was hidden or anything.
Post by: Imp on December 06, 2013, 05:01:11 pm
Ah. I figured complaining about dying would be fine, since it's not like my death was hidden or anything.
Yep! You didn't do anything wrong - if anything I'm walking the line of wrongness more than you ;p.
However, I'd rather be 'bad' then risk players getting mad and going away unsatisfied - especially if it's because of a factor that's unique to that specific game (as far as I know it's unique). I'd like my chance to play with you guys! And I think Mafia here has a lot to offer you.
Post by: Persus13 on December 06, 2013, 05:07:26 pm
Post by: Elephant Parade on December 06, 2013, 05:07:53 pm
Ah. I figured complaining about dying would be fine, since it's not like my death was hidden or anything.
Yep! You didn't do anything wrong - if anything I'm walking the line of wrongness more than you ;p.
However, I'd rather be 'bad' then risk players getting mad and going away unsatisfied - especially if it's because of a factor that's unique to that specific game (as far as I know it's unique). I'd like my chance to play with you guys! And I think Mafia here has a lot to offer you.
Yeah, I agree. Risking a game being spoiled is always bad, and it was nice of you to warn me not to say anything; though I did know not to post any sort of game-related information other than "bah, I'm dead," since I'm new to Mafia, I might not have known. However, I'm generally extremely careful about following rules, so I figured I probably shouldn't say anything beyond that.
Post by: lordnincompoop on December 07, 2013, 05:43:13 am
I found it too short, but that's because I got nightkilled first night. :P
*hugs and comforts* We're not allowed to talk about games that are not finished yet, but Sprint BM is the shortest, fastest, most 'savage' in timesense sort of game I've ever seen here (I'm new, so I haven't seen a lot yet... but still).
If the first Sprint turns out to be an unpleasant experience, changes will definitely have to be made.
Then again, you're expected to be able to engage yourself slightly more because of the short timespan. I'd think that for people interested in playing Mafia properly, posting a few times a day for just one week seems a reasonable request.
Post by: notquitethere on December 08, 2013, 06:09:06 pm
Spoiler: Some background (click to show/hide)
Post by: Leafsnail on December 08, 2013, 06:29:12 pm
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Roles: The basic information about available town roles will be known. However, I will only give a general description of each role that will give an indication of what the role can do. More specific information will be given in role PMs as necessary. This means you will not know the specific rules of many of the roles, even if you know what they do. There may also be variations on the town roles, both within a game and between games.So the problem wasn't that the scum had hidden roles (that was statedin the op) but that the scum had too many members and too much power.
Scum and 3rd party role information is not going to be posted in the thread.
Post by: ToonyMan on December 08, 2013, 07:07:43 pm
Post by: webadict on December 08, 2013, 07:11:24 pm
Thank goodness now if I'm on a team with NQT I won't feel worried.I feel like this might require more testing to confirm.
Post by: Persus13 on December 08, 2013, 07:54:25 pm
Post by: Toaster on December 08, 2013, 09:31:18 pm
Hey Toaster, you got a time-frame in mind for starting JK9++?
Hmm... how about I open signups on D2 of Paranormal, or end of BYOR12, whichever comes first? Two games at once seems to be about our quota these days. It needs thirteen players exactly, which might be a bit tricky for that last one or two.
So that happened. Without objections, I'll put JK9++ in signups tomorrow.
Post by: Mephansteras on December 09, 2013, 07:33:30 pm
Probably worth putting a game or two into sign-ups, even if they have a caveat that they might not start until after the holidays.
Post by: Persus13 on December 09, 2013, 07:43:53 pm
Post by: Toaster on December 09, 2013, 09:15:25 pm
Now it is the time to gallop
To the reply button
You Mafia glutton
And go and put your name up.
Post by: webadict on December 09, 2013, 11:13:02 pm
Post by: Vector on December 18, 2013, 08:45:22 am
Post by: Tiruin on December 18, 2013, 11:19:58 pm
I do recall a different theme going on there. This is the more. . .'simpler' one, to be brief, right?
Post by: Vector on December 18, 2013, 11:22:56 pm
Themes: Faith and governance.
Post by: Tiruin on December 18, 2013, 11:41:54 pm
Also guys, we really need an IC in the current BM. Only one IC is needed to kickstart that game! :D
Post by: Nerjin on December 19, 2013, 12:14:27 am
Post by: webadict on December 19, 2013, 07:59:27 am
Yay, another Vector-game! :))Hahaha.
I do recall a different theme going on there. This is the more. . .'simpler' one, to be brief, right?
Simple? Yeah, let's go with "simple."
Hmm?Mind if I add in Fate? Or was it always destined to be Fate as well?
Themes: Faith and governance.
I'm going to love this one. Just like the last one! :PJust use 1 IC and have 8 beginners?
Also guys, we really need an IC in the current BM. Only one IC is needed to kickstart that game! :D
Post by: Nerjin on December 19, 2013, 07:26:54 pm
I'm going to love this one. Just like the last one! :PJust use 1 IC and have 8 beginners?
Also guys, we really need an IC in the current BM. Only one IC is needed to kickstart that game! :D
1 IC, 1 Scum IC, and 8 Beginners? I'm down with it.
Post by: Vector on December 19, 2013, 08:53:44 pm
Mind if I add in Fate? Or was it always destined to be Fate as well?
What, did I not write Fate? Huh. I meant to write Fate in there.
Post by: webadict on December 19, 2013, 09:54:30 pm
It's cool. I'm just looking out for you.Mind if I add in Fate? Or was it always destined to be Fate as well?
What, did I not write Fate? Huh. I meant to write Fate in there.
Post by: zombie urist on January 08, 2014, 09:50:25 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on February 03, 2014, 08:47:09 pm
Post by: TheDarkStar on February 03, 2014, 09:57:38 pm
Having refined the game with Webadict, The Greatest Battle of Orbfalls: a tale of treachery and mafia is now on the books. I plan on starting it in a lull between other games, if such a thing ever exists.
Can I ask what kind of theme it will be, and whether it will be a standard mafia game or not?
Post by: 4maskwolf on February 03, 2014, 10:07:27 pm
You may most certainly ask. It is a dwarf fortress flavored mafia, and for the most part, it follows standard mafia rules. There is a more dwarfly lynching mechanic, which I suppose I could explain if you want. It will be explained regardless when the game enters setup.Having refined the game with Webadict, The Greatest Battle of Orbfalls: a tale of treachery and mafia is now on the books. I plan on starting it in a lull between other games, if such a thing ever exists.
Can I ask what kind of theme it will be, and whether it will be a standard mafia game or not?
Post by: Elephant Parade on February 04, 2014, 12:28:55 am
Post by: TheDarkStar on February 04, 2014, 06:07:47 pm
You may most certainly ask. It is a dwarf fortress flavored mafia, and for the most part, it follows standard mafia rules. There is a more dwarfly lynching mechanic, which I suppose I could explain if you want. It will be explained regardless when the game enters setup.Having refined the game with Webadict, The Greatest Battle of Orbfalls: a tale of treachery and mafia is now on the books. I plan on starting it in a lull between other games, if such a thing ever exists.
Can I ask what kind of theme it will be, and whether it will be a standard mafia game or not?
Ok, just making sure it wasn't one of those games where you have to figure out the rules.
What's the lynching mechanic?
Post by: Nerjin on February 04, 2014, 06:10:59 pm
I had an entertaining idea for a Mafia game, and I'd like to run it in the near future.
Could you elaborate?
Post by: 4maskwolf on February 04, 2014, 07:27:46 pm
The day works the same as usual, you vote on who to punish, with a majority rule. However, after that, the game enters a twilight phase, where posting is forbidden. The players pm their choice of punishment to me, and again, majority rules. There are three levels of punishment: a beating, jail time, or a hammering. The hammering is instantly lethal, the other two knock the player out of the game temporarily. Wincons simply require the opposition to be incapacitated as opposed to killed. This probably seems unbalanced, but the roles are intended to balance it out. I'm can't say more until everything is nailed down.You may most certainly ask. It is a dwarf fortress flavored mafia, and for the most part, it follows standard mafia rules. There is a more dwarfly lynching mechanic, which I suppose I could explain if you want. It will be explained regardless when the game enters setup.Having refined the game with Webadict, The Greatest Battle of Orbfalls: a tale of treachery and mafia is now on the books. I plan on starting it in a lull between other games, if such a thing ever exists.
Can I ask what kind of theme it will be, and whether it will be a standard mafia game or not?
Ok, just making sure it wasn't one of those games where you have to figure out the rules.
What's the lynching mechanic?
Post by: Elephant Parade on February 04, 2014, 08:45:06 pm
I had an entertaining idea for a Mafia game, and I'd like to run it in the near future.
Could you elaborate?
Nope. It's a surprise!
Post by: Mephansteras on February 04, 2014, 09:56:14 pm
Post by: Elephant Parade on February 04, 2014, 10:21:05 pm
You'll need to at least give it a name for me to put it in the queue.Mafia Game That Has No Name Because I Didn't Want To Give Away The Twist.
Or MGTGNNBIDWTGATT.
Post by: TheDarkStar on February 04, 2014, 10:44:54 pm
You'll need to at least give it a name for me to put it in the queue.Mafia Game That Has No Name Because I Didn't Want To Give Away The Twist.
Or MGTGNNBIDWTGATT.
What about Dwarf Mafia?
Post by: 4maskwolf on February 04, 2014, 10:55:29 pm
Post by: webadict on February 06, 2014, 07:10:36 pm
Psh... Mine was a better acronym.You'll need to at least give it a name for me to put it in the queue.Mafia Game That Has No Name Because I Didn't Want To Give Away The Twist.
Or MGTGNNBIDWTGATT.
NOT THAT IS WAS OR ANYTHING. BECAUSE IT'S NOT.
Post by: Reverie on February 08, 2014, 08:25:59 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on February 08, 2014, 08:42:32 pm
I think I'm burnt out on Mafia, though it's not something I like saying. Seriously, I'm curious as to how most of you manage to keep it up.Alcohol. Specifically, wine.
Post by: Reverie on February 08, 2014, 08:45:19 pm
I'm not sure even alcohol can repair the OCD I've developed to combat scum-read paranoia.I think I'm burnt out on Mafia, though it's not something I like saying. Seriously, I'm curious as to how most of you manage to keep it up.Alcohol. Specifically, wine.
Post by: Hapah on February 10, 2014, 04:52:08 pm
Post by: TheDarkStar on February 10, 2014, 07:00:53 pm
I'm not sure even alcohol can repair the OCD I've developed to combat scum-read paranoia.I think I'm burnt out on Mafia, though it's not something I like saying. Seriously, I'm curious as to how most of you manage to keep it up.Alcohol. Specifically, wine.
This is really, really suspicious. You are claiming town here with the claim of always hunting for scum. Also, you are making yourself seem disinterested so that you don't look like you care that you survive. Lastly, there's...
Wait a minute.
Really though, I wonder how much psychological damage you get from playing mafia long-term.
Post by: Tiruin on February 10, 2014, 09:32:48 pm
Personally? I look at it by a philosopher's standpoint. Hence, I am not significantly affected by the mystique or statements offered. It's only when people use emotional tells in a hypocritical way that really gets to me. :P
Even if I have OCD.
Post by: Nerjin on February 10, 2014, 09:37:46 pm
As for myself, though I've not been here long, I keep coming back because I like the people who play. Honestly if everyone here decided "Hey, we're all tired of mafia. Let's go play [Risk/Checkers/DnD/Parcheesi/Clue/Etc] instead!" I would immediately join up.
It's less the game [though I do like it a lot] and more of the people I play with.
Post by: Reverie on February 10, 2014, 09:46:09 pm
Being as I am opposed to drinking on moral grounds I don't really find much weight with the "Drink while playing" though imagining Toony sipping wine while plotting deviously is an appealing mental image.
As for myself, though I've not been here long, I keep coming back because I like the people who play. Honestly if everyone here decided "Hey, we're all tired of mafia. Let's go play [Risk/Checkers/DnD/Parcheesi/Clue/Etc] instead!" I would immediately join up.
It's less the game [though I do like it a lot] and more of the people I play with.
I agree. This forum (and subforum in particular) has pretty much been my internet home for a long time, and I always seem to come back for you guys.
I've lost the stamina for Mafia, though...
Post by: Tiruin on February 10, 2014, 09:52:12 pm
And the writing of the mods. Oh so much their writing. Makes my eyes squee and my mind float in vivid, picturesque scenes.
Being as I am opposed to drinking on moral grounds I don't really find much weight with the "Drink while playing" though imagining Toony sipping wine while plotting deviously is an appealing mental image.Now this is something I'd fully back.
As for myself, though I've not been here long, I keep coming back because I like the people who play. Honestly if everyone here decided "Hey, we're all tired of mafia. Let's go play [Risk/Checkers/DnD/Parcheesi/Clue/Etc] instead!" I would immediately join up....I've never played D&D my whole life. :(
Post by: Nerjin on February 10, 2014, 09:56:12 pm
...I've never played D&D my whole life. :(
It's not for everyone. I've personally been trying to get a game together for MOWE and a friend of mine for a little bit. If you're interested in playing I'd keep an eye on the 'Forum Games and Role-playing' section. They generally have a DnD game going. If nothing else I could link you to some rule-books and you could see if you'd be interested in the first place.
Post by: Persus13 on February 10, 2014, 10:03:42 pm
Post by: TolyK on February 10, 2014, 11:45:34 pm
The only thing I hate about forum mafia is the fact that I sometimes get too many things to answer to, and it just starts sucking up more and more time until the only thing I have time for is answering questions. Other than that, it's great.
Post by: Toaster on February 11, 2014, 09:00:44 am
But yeah, you dudes and dudettes are pretty cool.
Back on topic a bit, Limerick Mafia is finished.
Post by: ToonyMan on February 11, 2014, 10:55:02 am
Post by: Vector on February 11, 2014, 02:29:55 pm
Post by: Toaster on February 11, 2014, 03:39:01 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on February 11, 2014, 05:40:42 pm
Post by: Reverie on February 11, 2014, 06:56:46 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on February 11, 2014, 07:06:53 pm
I have a feeling he will be back.Yes. I give him a month at most.
Post by: Vector on February 11, 2014, 07:35:21 pm
Post by: Persus13 on February 11, 2014, 08:06:32 pm
Post by: Nerjin on February 15, 2014, 09:45:48 pm
I have a feeling he will be back.Yes. I give him a month at most.
Is there a reason why? Does this happen often?
Post by: Jim Groovester on February 16, 2014, 01:06:38 am
Anybody who cares enough to say goodbye is still invested in the board to some extent. That's not an easy thing to leave behind for good, especially when coming back is as easy as logging in again.
Post by: 4maskwolf on February 18, 2014, 01:08:29 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on February 18, 2014, 01:26:22 pm
Mephansteras, are you still taking a look at the setups people send you and helping balance them? I want to get another experienced player's input.
Sure
Post by: 4maskwolf on February 19, 2014, 11:38:12 pm
Barring any unusual circumstances, The Greatest Battle of Orbfalls should enter signups towards the end of next week.
Post by: 4maskwolf on February 21, 2014, 10:43:29 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on February 24, 2014, 03:29:30 am
Post by: Teneb on February 24, 2014, 10:05:40 am
Post by: notquitethere on February 24, 2014, 10:10:04 am
Post by: Vector on February 24, 2014, 04:20:14 pm
What with Iron Diadem on temporary hold, are there any objections to my opening The Greatest Battle of Orbfalls for signups sooner than anticipated? I would still wait until a game ended to start, or until we got further confirmation of the status of Diadem.
Yeah, in case anyone was wondering I was just diagnosed with low iron and a deficiency in vitamin D, for which I'm now being treated. Diadem's not going away; it's my next priority after getting this boxes of books all over my room in order and my next bit of poetry translation work done (that's also been on hold for two weeks).
Post by: 4maskwolf on February 24, 2014, 05:46:16 pm
Well, it's good you're now getting treated for it, and fortunate it wasn't anything more serious.What with Iron Diadem on temporary hold, are there any objections to my opening The Greatest Battle of Orbfalls for signups sooner than anticipated? I would still wait until a game ended to start, or until we got further confirmation of the status of Diadem.
Yeah, in case anyone was wondering I was just diagnosed with low iron and a deficiency in vitamin D, for which I'm now being treated. Diadem's not going away; it's my next priority after getting this boxes of books all over my room in order and my next bit of poetry translation work done (that's also been on hold for two weeks).
Post by: zombie urist on February 24, 2014, 09:32:33 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on February 24, 2014, 09:38:44 pm
Do you think Iron Diadem will start up within a week or so? Because if not I'm going to throw up a forum game.We already have two games active other than Diadem and one in signups, with two more waiting to enter.
Post by: Nerjin on February 24, 2014, 09:40:04 pm
Would anyone object if I ran a BYOR at a later date?
I am always up for a BYOR. Should I send you my role now or later? Because I've been sitting on this since the last BYOR was on day 2.
Post by: zombie urist on February 24, 2014, 09:40:18 pm
Post by: Vector on February 24, 2014, 09:40:48 pm
Do you think Iron Diadem will start up within a week or so? Because if not I'm going to throw up a forum game.
Yes, I do. I actually can't quite describe just how much better I'm feeling now that I'm on supplements and a different diet, and spending at least an hour outside in the sun every day. Still oversleeping, but at least I'm not spending the whole day in a haze. This has been the first day of actual work I've been able to put in for a while, so it shouldn't be much longer even if I don't get any better than I am right now.
Post by: zombie urist on February 24, 2014, 10:04:14 pm
Post by: TolyK on February 24, 2014, 10:55:45 pm
Cool, good to see you feeling better!What with Iron Diadem on temporary hold, are there any objections to my opening The Greatest Battle of Orbfalls for signups sooner than anticipated? I would still wait until a game ended to start, or until we got further confirmation of the status of Diadem.
Yeah, in case anyone was wondering I was just diagnosed with low iron and a deficiency in vitamin D, for which I'm now being treated. Diadem's not going away; it's my next priority after getting this boxes of books all over my room in order and my next bit of poetry translation work done (that's also been on hold for two weeks).
Also, uh. Does "Diadem" mean "deficiency" in any language? :P
Post by: Toaster on February 27, 2014, 10:26:35 am
Yes, I do. I actually can't quite describe just how much better I'm feeling now that I'm on supplements and a different diet, and spending at least an hour outside in the sun every day. Still oversleeping, but at least I'm not spending the whole day in a haze. This has been the first day of actual work I've been able to put in for a while, so it shouldn't be much longer even if I don't get any better than I am right now.
Hopefully you're not having to take that liquid supplement. My sister had to, and it stunk up the whole room- she hated it.
Also, uh. Does "Diadem" mean "deficiency" in any language? :P
I was going to suggest just eating the Diadem.
Post by: Vector on February 27, 2014, 03:57:57 pm
*chews on diadem*
Post by: 4maskwolf on March 08, 2014, 07:23:04 pm
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly is finished.
The greatest battle of Orbfalls is currently in play.
Post by: notquitethere on March 13, 2014, 04:27:43 am
Post by: ToonyMan on March 13, 2014, 03:34:47 pm
EDIT:
Leafsnail and Webadict aren't invited.
EDITX2:
Oh it's already queued...uh...I'll make the thread after my second mid-terms, as in, after the first week of April expect sign-ups.
Post by: 4maskwolf on March 13, 2014, 08:29:56 pm
Edit: I don't want to put it in the queue because I want any new mods to be able to plop theirs in should they find one and I have no idea when in the future I will have time to run it.
Post by: Elephant Parade on March 13, 2014, 09:31:34 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on March 13, 2014, 09:32:56 pm
Uh. I wouldn't mind putting my game into signups, though I still need to fine-tune a few things.That's what I did. Go ahead and drop it in, it may be awhile until there a game ends.
Post by: Elephant Parade on March 13, 2014, 09:37:19 pm
Okay. I also need a pretty large number of players. I'll create the topic tomorrow, when I have the time.Uh. I wouldn't mind putting my game into signups, though I still need to fine-tune a few things.That's what I did. Go ahead and drop it in, it may be awhile until there a game ends.
Post by: Reverie on March 15, 2014, 10:23:56 am
Leafsnail and Webadict aren't invited.Ouch. Didn't Wubs leave mafia?
Post by: ToonyMan on March 15, 2014, 10:32:02 am
Post by: 4maskwolf on March 15, 2014, 10:40:41 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on March 16, 2014, 12:54:32 pm
Also, where's ElephantParade?
Post by: Elephant Parade on March 17, 2014, 01:41:39 am
Just for the sake of correctness, my game is no longer in the planned area.I am right here. I am still working on the roles, and I need to run it by somebody to check it for balance issues.
Also, where's ElephantParade?
I'm absolutely livid with rage at the moment, so I do not feel like putting any effort into anything. Tomorrow, I will try to finish it up.
Post by: Jack A T on March 20, 2014, 04:20:12 pm
(As a side note, hello again, denizens of the Mafia subforum! I have returned!)
Post by: Nerjin on March 20, 2014, 04:21:44 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on March 20, 2014, 04:24:47 pm
Post by: Toaster on March 20, 2014, 07:41:50 pm
Post by: TheDarkStar on March 20, 2014, 08:58:19 pm
(As a side note, hello again, denizens of the Mafia subforum! I have returned!)
Welcome back! Who are you?
Post by: Jack A T on March 20, 2014, 09:16:26 pm
(As a side note, hello again, denizens of the Mafia subforum! I have returned!)
Welcome back! Who are you?
I'm the guy to blame for the term "Jimbots." I'm also Canadian. I used to overuse bold text, but I have changed somewhat over the year.
Post by: Toaster on March 20, 2014, 09:23:50 pm
Post by: TolyK on March 21, 2014, 12:59:18 am
Post by: ToonyMan on March 21, 2014, 07:27:01 pm
Welcome back, Jack!JACK'S BACK
Post by: Tiruin on March 21, 2014, 08:40:59 pm
Also quite impressive. See: That one BM.(As a side note, hello again, denizens of the Mafia subforum! I have returned!)
Welcome back! Who are you?
I'm the guy to blame for the term "Jimbots." I'm also Canadian. I used to overuse bold text, but I have changed somewhat over the year.
Hey, did Toony return too? :D
Yay!
Post by: notquitethere on March 21, 2014, 11:05:20 pm
Post by: TolyK on March 22, 2014, 01:25:15 am
Jack's Back in the Black!Welcome back, Jack!JACK'S BACK
Post by: ToonyMan on March 22, 2014, 06:15:50 pm
I've been here. I'm too busy to join any games right now.
KotM4 should still be going up the 2nd week of April.
Post by: Jim Groovester on March 22, 2014, 09:28:38 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on April 01, 2014, 06:17:21 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on April 01, 2014, 06:46:20 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on April 01, 2014, 06:52:51 pm
Post by: Elephant Parade on April 01, 2014, 07:22:19 pm
It has been a while, hasn't it? I'm inclined to drop it back down to Planned until he does something with it.Uh. I actually sent you a PM about it, and was waiting for a response. Maybe I accidentally didn't send it?
I don't have a ton of free time at the moment, so I'd like to drop it down to Planned.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 01, 2014, 07:30:08 pm
It has been a while, hasn't it? I'm inclined to drop it back down to Planned until he does something with it.Uh. I actually sent you a PM about it, and was waiting for a response. Maybe I accidentally didn't send it?
I don't have a ton of free time at the moment, so I'd like to drop it down to Planned.
Hmm, or I meant to reply and didn't. I've been swamped with stuff recently, so that's possible. I'll check.
In any case, I'll drop it down to Planned for now.
Post by: ToonyMan on April 07, 2014, 06:51:45 pm
Post by: Jack A T on April 10, 2014, 01:42:10 pm
Perhaps something more plain would be a nice change.
Any interest in a Not-So-Beginner Mafia, as modded by me? Same setup as the current BMs, but without the teaching-focused elements.
Post by: Leafsnail on April 10, 2014, 02:13:16 pm
Post by: flabort on April 12, 2014, 03:05:57 pm
"Mini Mafia Multitude" is the name of the game. My spreadsheet of slots is set up to work with anywhere between 6 and 19 players; I hope for about 10.
Post by: Jack A T on April 13, 2014, 05:19:28 pm
Post by: TheDarkStar on April 13, 2014, 06:44:13 pm
Post by: Jack A T on April 14, 2014, 10:58:31 am
Post by: TheDarkStar on April 14, 2014, 05:55:58 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on April 16, 2014, 11:54:02 am
Post by: Jack A T on April 16, 2014, 02:39:53 pm
NSBM 4 is active now.
Post by: flabort on April 19, 2014, 06:19:25 pm
Also, Flabort, you may as well put your game into signups, there's no way I'd get enough people to run The Home Front and the setup is unusable with fewer than 13 without heavy modification due to the five third parties and three possible kills.
According to the threshold discussion, there are 3 active games and one in signups already. One appears to not actually be active, though, and the one in signups is losing players.
However, that shouldn't be a problem. I'll just move this train of thought to the Threshold thread, and if I don't get objections, the game may be up in... I dunno, less than 24 hours?
Meph, I'd like to move MMM into signups today. Is this acceptable?
Post by: Mephansteras on April 19, 2014, 07:40:20 pm
Post by: flabort on April 19, 2014, 08:57:40 pm
Thread here. (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=137990)
Post by: The Soldier on April 25, 2014, 06:01:29 pm
Spoiler: Rough outline of the flavor (click to show/hide)
Would anyone be interested if I put this into the queue?
Post by: 4maskwolf on April 25, 2014, 06:06:21 pm
I have an interesting idea for flavor floating around in my head, and I've been thinking of hosting my first game. It would have a moderately large number of roles present, with the possible roles being relatively normal ones with few or no twists.Sounds good, but given the number of stalled games you may be waiting a while to run it.Spoiler: Rough outline of the flavor (click to show/hide)
Would anyone be interested if I put this into the queue?
Post by: The Soldier on April 25, 2014, 06:47:41 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on April 29, 2014, 09:56:48 pm
I would like to see an Endless KotM game at some point, but I'll be busy next week so don't expect much from me until two weeks from now.
Post by: 4maskwolf on April 29, 2014, 10:00:00 pm
Post by: notquitethere on April 30, 2014, 06:37:50 am
Post by: 4maskwolf on April 30, 2014, 05:41:28 pm
Can the next beginner's mafia be a Sprint? I really think for being a fun and engaging introduction to forum mafia they're far superior to the usual set-up. Due to being less commitment, there's not the same worry about low activity, and because it's not an enterprise that lasts for over a month, there's not as much pressure to get things right when playing.+1
Post by: Persus13 on April 30, 2014, 05:45:12 pm
+2Can the next beginner's mafia be a Sprint? I really think for being a fun and engaging introduction to forum mafia they're far superior to the usual set-up. Due to being less commitment, there's not the same worry about low activity, and because it's not an enterprise that lasts for over a month, there's not as much pressure to get things right when playing.+1
Post by: Elephant Parade on April 30, 2014, 05:51:17 pm
+3+2Can the next beginner's mafia be a Sprint? I really think for being a fun and engaging introduction to forum mafia they're far superior to the usual set-up. Due to being less commitment, there's not the same worry about low activity, and because it's not an enterprise that lasts for over a month, there's not as much pressure to get things right when playing.+1
By the way, am I still beginner enough to join a BM? I've participated in two games (the first Sprint, in which I was nightkilled N1, as well as Limerick Mafia, in which I survived as scum until the final day when I was lynched).
If possible, I'd like to join Sprint 2.
Post by: 4maskwolf on April 30, 2014, 05:56:50 pm
I've participated in like 8 games to this point, and I still play in them, so yeah, you're beginner enough.+3+2Can the next beginner's mafia be a Sprint? I really think for being a fun and engaging introduction to forum mafia they're far superior to the usual set-up. Due to being less commitment, there's not the same worry about low activity, and because it's not an enterprise that lasts for over a month, there's not as much pressure to get things right when playing.+1
By the way, am I still beginner enough to join a BM? I've participated in two games (the first Sprint, in which I was nightkilled N1, as well as Limerick Mafia, in which I survived as scum until the final day when I was lynched).
If possible, I'd like to join Sprint 2.
Post by: 4maskwolf on April 30, 2014, 06:06:32 pm
Post by: zombie urist on May 01, 2014, 10:09:54 pm
currently is
May 5-11 Finish planning and balancing
May 12-19 Signups Open
May 20-27 Character creation
June 2 Game starts
Post by: 4maskwolf on May 01, 2014, 10:12:03 pm
Now that the BM I was modding is over, I'm thinking about running Dangan Ronpa Mafia. It'll be mostly using Leafsnail's ruleset. The timetable for this gamewhat's that?
currently is
May 5-11 Finish planning and balancing
May 12-19 Signups Open
May 20-27 Character creation
June 2 Game starts
Post by: mastahcheese on May 01, 2014, 10:24:19 pm
Post by: Elephant Parade on May 01, 2014, 10:25:15 pm
Now that the BM I was modding is over, I'm thinking about running Dangan Ronpa Mafia. It'll be mostly using Leafsnail's ruleset. The timetable for this gameThis sounds amazing, but it starts right before my second set of exams. Bah.
currently is
May 5-11 Finish planning and balancing
May 12-19 Signups Open
May 20-27 Character creation
June 2 Game starts
I'm not sure when exams are happening for most people, but if lots of other people are the same you might want to delay it a month.
Also, which Dangan Ronpa is it based off of? I've only seen the anime.
Post by: zombie urist on May 01, 2014, 10:33:07 pm
Knowledge of the game/anime isn't needed to play.
Post by: ToonyMan on May 01, 2014, 10:55:39 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on May 02, 2014, 05:04:15 am
Post by: zombie urist on May 02, 2014, 12:17:40 pm
Post by: zombie urist on May 05, 2014, 02:30:56 am
Post by: ToonyMan on May 05, 2014, 07:55:56 am
Post by: Toaster on May 05, 2014, 10:56:31 am
Post by: mastahcheese on May 05, 2014, 04:04:42 pm
If you'd like, I could finish up the idea I've been secretly working on and run that.
Post by: TheDarkStar on May 05, 2014, 04:32:16 pm
Don't we have enough games running at the moment? Or at least in set-up?
If you'd like, I could finish up the idea I've been secretly working on and run that.
I could 6 games running or in signups right now, so yeah, there are a lot.
Post by: notquitethere on May 07, 2014, 05:14:10 am
Could you put Choose-Your-Own-Masquerade at the bottom of the queue? I imagine we'll be done with the active games and the ones in sign-up in about a month and a half, which is about when I wanted to run another game.
Post by: Jack A T on May 09, 2014, 05:54:32 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on May 09, 2014, 05:57:10 pm
I will be traveling this coming week so I will basically be gone from Saturday until Sunday the following week. I may or may not get internet access during this time, so if I'm delayed in updating anything just be patient.
Post by: flabort on May 12, 2014, 08:55:04 pm
It would now be Active otherwise.
I'm aware you're gone, so I can wait for the queue to be updated.
Post by: Jack A T on May 12, 2014, 08:58:24 pm
Post by: RangerCado on May 13, 2014, 11:47:40 am
The basic premise is that everyone is given a role at the start, and two-three role cards are placed in the center of the table. Almost all roles have some sort of power with them except for 2-3 villager cards which may or may not be in the middle. During Night 0, things get interesting.
The usual Werewolves knowing who eachother are and Masons knowing who eachother are is the same. The other roles however do something else entirely. The robber gets to switch his role with someone elses, without their knowledge, and assumes the role of the robbed player. The trickster switches 2 players roles, the drunk switches his role with one in the middle, the seer looks at a player's card or half the middle cards. (2/3 if there is three) And at the end of all this madness, the insomniac wakes up and gets to check if their still the Insomniac.
When day rises, players must discuss and vote on who they think is a werewolf. The town wins if they kill a werewolf, the werewolves win if they get everyone to kill a townie. There are other roles which will change the game up that I haven't mentioned here as well, which can make things more interesting.
The day would last 60 hours, pending, and a 24 hour warning of game start would also be given out. Thoughts? Criticism? Cookies?
Post by: TolyK on May 13, 2014, 11:56:48 am
Post by: notquitethere on May 13, 2014, 12:18:41 pm
Post by: RangerCado on May 13, 2014, 02:04:32 pm
I forgot to mention that only the insomniac at the end of all the role switching gets to see their role. Afterwards, everyone only knows what they WERE and not what they currently are.
Post by: notquitethere on May 13, 2014, 04:51:35 pm
Post by: RangerCado on May 13, 2014, 06:42:08 pm
Post by: griffinpup on May 13, 2014, 07:12:26 pm
No one thought to try it out?Well you should fix that, methinks
Post by: Jack A T on May 13, 2014, 07:57:53 pm
Post by: flabort on May 13, 2014, 08:19:25 pm
Great for beginners just starting, but bad overall.
Post by: Leafsnail on May 13, 2014, 08:23:12 pm
Also how does the robber actually work? What alignment is it, and can that alignment change?
Post by: RangerCado on May 13, 2014, 08:36:38 pm
ExamsThe robber is town aligned, but must swap his/her role with someone during the night. This CAN result in alignment change.
Also how does the robber actually work? What alignment is it, and can that alignment change?
Post by: RangerCado on May 13, 2014, 08:40:38 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on May 13, 2014, 08:42:18 pm
The robber is town aligned, but must swap his/her role with someone during the night. This CAN result in alignment change.So in other words there will be a townie who knows who the werewolves are after the night? Or someone who doesn't even know that their win condition has changed, which would result in them losing for no reason?
Post by: RangerCado on May 13, 2014, 08:47:23 pm
And the whole idea is attempting to figure out what happened during the first part of the game so that you can accurately kill a werewolf, while trying to figure out what team your now playing for. Since you normally aren't able to see your role afterwards, this results in a lot of potential for odd or intriguing situations.
Post by: RangerCado on May 13, 2014, 08:53:33 pm
http://www.polarisgo.com/video/XAjYvtLizqyL/section/recent_top_videos (http://www.polarisgo.com/video/XAjYvtLizqyL/section/recent_top_videos)
Post by: Silthuri on May 14, 2014, 03:37:27 pm
Post by: notquitethere on May 14, 2014, 05:32:17 pm
Post by: Silthuri on May 14, 2014, 07:09:25 pm
Post by: Jack A T on May 14, 2014, 11:12:30 pm
Post by: Persus13 on May 15, 2014, 08:17:50 pm
Post by: Silthuri on May 16, 2014, 12:04:19 am
Post by: Mephansteras on June 02, 2014, 02:01:08 pm
Post by: TheDarkStar on June 02, 2014, 02:52:11 pm
Post by: notquitethere on June 02, 2014, 05:14:57 pm
Post by: flabort on June 02, 2014, 10:35:02 pm
Things have been rather quiet around here lately. Is there enough interest for me to start sign-ups for the next Supernatural game?I've heard good things about this series. I'm interested.
Post by: Jack A T on June 02, 2014, 11:07:32 pm
Post by: Persus13 on June 03, 2014, 05:53:52 am
Post by: ToonyMan on June 03, 2014, 10:57:18 am
Things have been rather quiet around here lately. Is there enough interest for me to start sign-ups for the next Supernatural game?Yes.
Post by: Mephansteras on June 03, 2014, 01:32:10 pm
EDIT: Supernatural 7 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=139118.0) is now in Sign-ups
Post by: flabort on June 07, 2014, 08:09:28 pm
Post by: Jack A T on June 08, 2014, 12:55:39 am
Post by: TolyK on June 08, 2014, 09:50:44 am
Post by: flabort on June 08, 2014, 10:19:29 am
Also, Meph, put Asylum Mafia onto the queue.
It's an open setup for 8, 12, or 17 players. Probably get 8.
After Asylum Mafia ends, I'm going to do MMM II.
After that, hopefully I'll have all my plans and materials for my non-maifa non-RtD game ready.
And partway through that I'll do MMM III: BYOR.
Post by: Jack A T on June 08, 2014, 12:57:52 pm
Meph: Please put Jack's Simple BYOR in the queue. Also, Samurai Mafia has been abandoned, and is no longer in signups.
Post by: Jack A T on June 09, 2014, 01:39:22 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on June 11, 2014, 03:32:33 pm
I'll put it in signups later today.
Post by: Persus13 on June 11, 2014, 04:05:02 pm
Oh geez I should actually dredge up my notes for THF:2050, shouldn't I?
I'll put it in signups later today.
I'd actually recommend waiting a little. Two active games and one is signups is enough.
Post by: 4maskwolf on June 11, 2014, 04:10:27 pm
The problem with that is that everyone has the tendency to skip the queue and go straight into signups, straight over my game. That's why it hasn't been put in yet.Oh geez I should actually dredge up my notes for THF:2050, shouldn't I?
I'll put it in signups later today.
I'd actually recommend waiting a little. Two active games and one is signups is enough.
Post by: flabort on June 11, 2014, 06:38:15 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on June 12, 2014, 03:40:36 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on June 12, 2014, 04:04:35 pm
Prince of the Mafia is on a hiatus, at least for a little while. There should probably be a section for inactive games, like it and Diadem.
Good idea.
Post by: notquitethere on June 12, 2014, 08:00:48 pm
Could you put Choose-Your-Own-Masquerade at the bottom of the queue? I imagine we'll be done with the active games and the ones in sign-up in about a month and a half, which is about when I wanted to run another game.Also Mephansteras, I think you missed this.
Post by: webadict on June 12, 2014, 10:41:26 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on June 13, 2014, 10:30:58 am
Post by: Silthuri on June 19, 2014, 09:28:30 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on June 19, 2014, 09:30:07 pm
Post by: flabort on June 24, 2014, 07:20:37 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on June 24, 2014, 10:28:28 pm
Post by: flabort on June 26, 2014, 09:58:40 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on July 01, 2014, 05:57:57 pm
Someone else can take over the next BM, I don't feel like trying to juggle my job I'm starting tomorrow, a modding project, and modding a BM.*prods people*
Who wants the bm?
Post by: Silthuri on July 02, 2014, 10:42:57 am
Post by: 4maskwolf on July 04, 2014, 12:58:24 pm
If absolutely no one else wants/has the time for it, I'll take the next one too.*realizes his game is at the back of the queue*
*sighs*
Since I can't run that, sure, why not. I'll go back to running this. Gimme a bit to write up some flavor.
Post by: mastahcheese on July 04, 2014, 04:14:51 pm
Post by: notquitethere on July 07, 2014, 08:24:38 am
Post by: 4maskwolf on July 07, 2014, 08:33:37 am
I'll put CYOM into sign-ups when one of the Supernatural or the BYOR games finishes, or if I die in either of them, or when Asylum starts, whichever happens first.Huzzah!
Huzzah!
Huzzah!
Post by: Reverie on July 07, 2014, 11:25:31 am
Post by: Nerjin on July 07, 2014, 12:04:03 pm
I'm tempted to jump back into mafia for some reason. Maybe I'm possessed.
Don't worry, I'm a real pretend priest. I'll handle this!
DEMON BEGONEStaystaystaystaystay DEMON BEGONE Staystaystaystaystay
You are welcome. Now all decisions are your own.
Post by: webadict on July 07, 2014, 08:07:44 pm
I'm tempted to jump back into mafia for some reason. Maybe I'm possessed.You are certainly free to join my BYOR in what I'll assume is about a month.
Who can resist my BYORs?
Post by: Toaster on July 07, 2014, 08:43:04 pm
Post by: Elephant Parade on July 07, 2014, 09:14:07 pm
Post by: Scripten on July 14, 2014, 05:41:20 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on July 14, 2014, 05:53:34 pm
Not sure where to put this, but I was wondering if the current Beginner's Mafia game is on hold? 4maskwolf seems to be done with mafia from posts I've seen in the Supernatural game. I don't mean to be impatient, but I am a little concerned.No, no, the game is about to enter day 2, I just need to send out night action pms. Patience, my young padawan.
I'm done playing, at least for now. I'll still mod.
Post by: Scripten on July 14, 2014, 05:57:10 pm
Post by: Toaster on July 15, 2014, 10:13:10 am
I'm done playing, at least for now. I'll still mod.
Sorry to hear this! You're a worthy player.
Post by: Jack A T on July 17, 2014, 11:45:38 pm
Post by: notquitethere on July 18, 2014, 03:40:56 am
Post by: Reverie on July 18, 2014, 04:33:07 am
Post by: notquitethere on July 18, 2014, 05:02:08 am
Post by: notquitethere on July 18, 2014, 06:31:37 am
Post by: webadict on July 19, 2014, 02:18:20 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on July 19, 2014, 02:28:18 pm
Would it be alright to put BYOR 13 into sign-ups on the condition that it won't startuntil Supernatural is ending?
Seems reasonable to me.
Post by: Persus13 on July 24, 2014, 04:42:38 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on July 25, 2014, 06:56:46 pm
Prince of the Mafia is out of Hiatus.Oh very well, I'll change the title for you.
Post by: flabort on July 27, 2014, 04:57:04 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on July 28, 2014, 10:59:11 am
Post by: Scripten on July 28, 2014, 11:02:27 am
Post by: 4maskwolf on July 28, 2014, 11:08:14 am
I think Webadict is done with signups and is now creating roles.there isn't a category for that, silly :P
Post by: Scripten on July 28, 2014, 11:26:19 am
Misread the first post.
Post by: 4maskwolf on July 30, 2014, 05:47:29 pm
We need some more games in the queue, people.
As soon as one of Wuba's BYOR or choose your own masquerade reaches day 3, I'm going to put The Home Front:2050 into signups. We'll have no games in the queue at that point, the THF2050 likely will never make actual gameplay due to the few players who play nowadays and the selectivity of most people's game choices. Hell, even CYOM didn't make 13 players, which is how many THF2050 needs.
Post by: Persus13 on July 30, 2014, 06:01:05 pm
Hey, 4mask, what happened to this?Prince of the Mafia is out of Hiatus.Oh very well, I'll change the title for you.
Post by: 4maskwolf on July 30, 2014, 06:03:08 pm
In short? My computer is a jerk and won't let me edit posts.Hey, 4mask, what happened to this?Prince of the Mafia is out of Hiatus.Oh very well, I'll change the title for you.
Post by: 4maskwolf on July 30, 2014, 06:04:22 pm
Post by: Persus13 on July 30, 2014, 06:24:16 pm
There, I used my ipod to edit it for you.Thanks!
Post by: Mephansteras on July 30, 2014, 06:27:08 pm
I also have an idea for a game where people's roles shift throughout the game (in a known fashion to each player, though, not quite like The Great Temple)
Post by: 4maskwolf on July 30, 2014, 06:35:21 pm
I have a few ideas for a Bastard game, if people would be interested in one of those.Huh.
I also have an idea for a game where people's roles shift throughout the game (in a known fashion to each player, though, not quite like The Great Temple)
Both are good options.
I vote for the second one, not like I have any say in the matter.
Post by: Scripten on July 30, 2014, 07:10:58 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on July 30, 2014, 07:12:07 pm
I would actually be willing to run a Battletech themed game. I have a few ideas for roles. I'd want to keep it simple, but flavor is really easy with established universes, so the roles, while simple, could be interesting at least. :PYES! WANT!
Post by: TolyK on August 01, 2014, 03:47:53 pm
I would actually be willing to run a Battletech themed game. I have a few ideas for roles. I'd want to keep it simple, but flavor is really easy with established universes, so the roles, while simple, could be interesting at least. :PWaaaaaaant. Esp. If byor or complicated :D
Post by: Scripten on August 01, 2014, 04:14:33 pm
I would actually be willing to run a Battletech themed game. I have a few ideas for roles. I'd want to keep it simple, but flavor is really easy with established universes, so the roles, while simple, could be interesting at least. :PWaaaaaaant. Esp. If byor or complicated :D
I have a few ideas that I'm tossing around in my head. Definitely going to employ a few different mech weight classes with their own traits. I'm thinking something where each player has two roles; one (Which is possibly shared with other players in that weight class) that is blatant by nature and known at game start, and one that's private, based upon the specific skills of the mechwarrior. I'm considering the idea of a nightless game for balance, but I need to keep researching to make sure it would work.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 01, 2014, 05:17:10 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on August 01, 2014, 05:20:36 pm
A Battletech game in the vein of Bang! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bang!) sounds really good. Have certain mecha with higher HP for instance, and different weapons types. Like missiles that can hit multiple people for 1 HP each or a deflector shield, etc.Persus13: Is that where you got the idea for gunfight in the saloon from?
Post by: Scripten on August 01, 2014, 05:34:37 pm
A Battletech game in the vein of Bang! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bang!) sounds really good. Have certain mecha with higher HP for instance, and different weapons types. Like missiles that can hit multiple people for 1 HP each or a deflector shield, etc.
That sounds a lot like the mixed Battletech/MechwarriorRPG systems you get with the tabletop games. I was actually thinking of going from mafia toward Battletech, rather than the other way around.
Post by: lordnincompoop on August 06, 2014, 02:38:26 pm
The roles, flavour, rule announcements, deadlines, and most things would be written as haikus, of course.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 06, 2014, 02:44:27 pm
Has anyone done BYO-Haiku?
The roles, flavour, rule announcements, deadlines, and most things would be written as haikus, of course.
We had Limerick Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=134151.0) does that count?
Post by: Persus13 on August 06, 2014, 06:27:07 pm
Yes, I specifically mentioned it in the OP of that game that it combines elements (mainly the roles and wincons) of Bang with mastahcheese's Six-Shooter RTD game.A Battletech game in the vein of Bang! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bang!) sounds really good. Have certain mecha with higher HP for instance, and different weapons types. Like missiles that can hit multiple people for 1 HP each or a deflector shield, etc.Persus13: Is that where you got the idea for gunfight in the saloon from?
I own a physical copy of Bang! and it's a really fun game, but you need 6-7 players to have a good game.
Post by: Toaster on August 06, 2014, 07:16:24 pm
Post by: zombie urist on August 06, 2014, 07:30:32 pm
There's gonna be a Dangan Ronpa mafia soon I bet.lol
Post by: ToonyMan on August 06, 2014, 07:58:54 pm
Make it happen man.There's gonna be a Dangan Ronpa mafia soon I bet.lol
Post by: Jim Groovester on August 16, 2014, 04:45:19 pm
Who's running the next BM?
Post by: 4maskwolf on August 16, 2014, 06:43:02 pm
So,I dunno.
Who's running the next BM?
I ran the last one, so idk who is next.
Post by: flabort on August 16, 2014, 11:06:57 pm
Post by: flabort on August 22, 2014, 01:18:37 am
Work just started again for me, literally a day after I die in the last mafia game I'm in. Meaning summer's over.
But I quite enjoyed that BYOR, so I'd like to add Flabort's High-Powered BYOR to the queue. Pick any TWO role names/concepts/ideas.
Post by: TolyK on August 22, 2014, 02:37:53 am
BYOR'S are hard to resist...
Will you have it co-modded or check the roles with someone?
Post by: webadict on August 22, 2014, 05:12:10 am
Right. So.Man, that one-upping.
Work just started again for me, literally a day after I die in the last mafia game I'm in. Meaning summer's over.
But I quite enjoyed that BYOR, so I'd like to add Flabort's High-Powered BYOR to the queue. Pick any TWO role names/concepts/ideas.
Post by: notquitethere on August 22, 2014, 05:14:43 am
Post by: TolyK on August 22, 2014, 06:47:26 am
Speaking of which, I actually wanted to run a semi-bastardly BYOR-type game myself after I get settled in with uni (i.e. in about a month).
:p
Post by: notquitethere on August 22, 2014, 07:34:13 am
Post by: TolyK on August 22, 2014, 07:45:01 am
Why the hell not. DBYOR. On queue please.
(in two-four weeks?)
Post by: flabort on August 22, 2014, 08:22:58 am
This forum is turning into a BYOBYOR.:)
Post by: webadict on August 22, 2014, 11:46:01 am
This forum is turning into a BYOBYOR.You have to admit, it's fun because it's ridiculous and unknown, without it being too unbalanced.
Post by: notquitethere on August 22, 2014, 12:27:16 pm
Post by: TolyK on August 22, 2014, 01:37:35 pm
Bay12 mafia forum had spoiled me as well.
Thank you guys. :3
Post by: webadict on August 22, 2014, 03:56:25 pm
I haven't been playing regular mafia for about two or three years. The most vanilla-like mafia I've played these days have at most only 1 townie (locally this variant is known as "TolyK's mafia", almost literally).Pretty much DF and Paranormal Mafia are to thank. They started the whole subforum. I don't know if mine was first, but I definitely ran the first BYO anything. It was a good learning experience.
Bay12 mafia forum had spoiled me as well.
Thank you guys. :3
Post by: flabort on August 22, 2014, 08:20:15 pm
It was 4mask running that, right?
As far as FHPBYOR, I have decided the quirk will definitely be:
Submit a minimum of two roles. If you submit more than two, two will be picked from those for you, the others randomly/evenly shuffled out.
So if someone submits N roles, where N is the number of players, everyone but them gets 3 roles as a result.
...yeah. If you get more roles, they won't be as strong as your first two, but let's just say there will be a lot of powers flying around.
Post by: 4maskwolf on August 22, 2014, 08:33:52 pm
I think that there's few enough games currently running to put THF:2050 into signups, 4mask.*sighs*
It was 4mask running that, right?
As far as FHPBYOR, I have decided the quirk will definitely be:
Submit a minimum of two roles. If you submit more than two, two will be picked from those for you, the others randomly/evenly shuffled out.
So if someone submits N roles, where N is the number of players, everyone but them gets 3 roles as a result.
...yeah. If you get more roles, they won't be as strong as your first two, but let's just say there will be a lot of powers flying around.
Time to dig out the final version of that game and dust it off.
How long has that been in reserve for?
Post by: Nerjin on August 22, 2014, 10:25:51 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on August 22, 2014, 10:38:32 pm
There's a bastard game I would like to run... I was hoping to run it sometime soon... Like... Immediately. But I suppose I can go onto a waitlist of some sort with all the BYOR's going on.GO RIGHT AHEAD NERJIN!!!!!
Please don't make me have to run my game... Run yours instead...
Post by: Nerjin on August 22, 2014, 10:49:00 pm
Post by: Jack A T on August 22, 2014, 10:52:25 pm
... BYOBYOR.Someone needs to run that.
Post by: Persus13 on August 22, 2014, 10:55:39 pm
Pick a role, it must be a role from a previously finished BYOR.... BYOBYOR.Someone needs to run that.
Post by: Nerjin on August 22, 2014, 11:07:39 pm
There are few fates worse than starving to death. There are few fates worse than being slaughtered like an animal for meat and bone. There are few fates worse than being raped until such a time that your captors decided you would make a better meal than toy.
You are one of the few in the world to never have worried about this. When society began collapsing your great grandparents were lucky enough to enter one of the bomb shelters. Protected from the horrific wasteland the nation had become they were blessed with a life of normalcy. Blessed be the Bomb Shelter.
The bomb shelter, as well as others like it all across the world, contains the only surviving sane humans that you know of. The outside world fell quickly. Crime became common place and human meat became a necessity for survival as the fallout prevented any and all crop and beast from growing. The bomb shelter has provided for you your entire life. You never go hungry. You never go thirsty. You only have to follow the rules.
One day, however, the Bomb Shelter addressed everyone in the vault, so the elders say: Hello inhabitants. I have fed you. Clothed you. Protected you from the outside world. Until now you have followed my rules. Now, however, there are those of you who see the rules as folly. You must be punished. Those who break the rules are trash. Trash must be disposed of. Every week you will vote on someone to be disposed. When those who have broken the rules have been disposed of all will return to normal. If you refuse my demands, then all of you will be cleansed. Choose wisely.
It was the first time the Bomb Shelter spoke. But it was not the last. Over the years the population has dwindled due to the weekly purges. Now there are few of you left. Those who broke the rules must still be here. Those who broke the rules must be found. Those who broke the rules must be destroyed.
- This could be you.
[Thoughts on flavor? I have the roles pretty much mapped out as I've been considering this for a loooong time]
Post by: Elephant Parade on August 22, 2014, 11:17:59 pm
How about Steal Someone Else's Role? It would go like this:
1)Everyone PMs the mod a role.
*The mod could make the roles now, or wait until before the game starts.
2)Everyone PMs the mod the user that they want to steal a role from.
3)Ties are sorted out somehow, and unused roles are shuffled among players without roles.
Post by: Persus13 on August 22, 2014, 11:25:05 pm
Ooh. I have an idea.Sounds a lot like Bring someone Else's Role.
How about Steal Someone Else's Role? It would go like this:
1)Everyone PMs the mod a role.
*The mod could make the roles now, or wait until before the game starts.
2)Everyone PMs the mod the user that they want to steal a role from.
3)Ties are sorted out somehow, and unused roles are shuffled among players without roles.
Post by: flabort on August 22, 2014, 11:30:12 pm
Heh. You want me to run mine before yours too? :PThere's a bastard game I would like to run... I was hoping to run it sometime soon... Like... Immediately. But I suppose I can go onto a waitlist of some sort with all the BYOR's going on.GO RIGHT AHEAD NERJIN!!!!!
Please don't make me have to run my game... Run yours instead...
I get it if you're not ready.
I think I have the opening flavor for mine ready, already. The idea for it, anyways, and the OP.
Just got to figure out which games on the queue should and can start now, and if Nerjin wants to go first or not. :)
Post by: Elephant Parade on August 22, 2014, 11:30:57 pm
Aren't the roles randomized in BSER, though?Ooh. I have an idea.Sounds a lot like Bring someone Else's Role.
How about Steal Someone Else's Role? It would go like this:
1)Everyone PMs the mod a role.
*The mod could make the roles now, or wait until before the game starts.
2)Everyone PMs the mod the user that they want to steal a role from.
3)Ties are sorted out somehow, and unused roles are shuffled among players without roles.
This could make for some interesting day-game, since you would know the name of one other role, and might be able to figure out who has it.
Post by: flabort on August 22, 2014, 11:54:51 pm
The main difference is that you can try to predict pre-game who's role is likely the most powerful. And the results of a tie.
Post by: flabort on August 23, 2014, 12:47:12 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on August 23, 2014, 01:51:46 pm
Yeah, I guess I'll throw mine into sign-ups. I was expecting to have to wait a couple weeks, but with 4mask hesitant to start his, and others suggested afterwards, I can start right away.Meh. Screw it, I'm putting mine into signups as well. Should probably get it over with.
Post by: flabort on August 30, 2014, 11:53:14 am
Post by: Mephansteras on August 30, 2014, 12:56:01 pm
Meph Apologies if you've been absent, but I noticed that FHPBYOR and THF:2050 haven't been moved on your list from queue to signups. You should maybe move them.
Ah, yeah, I should do that. I've been a bit busy, sorry.
Post by: zombie urist on September 17, 2014, 06:56:31 pm
Ok I'm actually going to try and get Dangan Ronpa mafia done so that signups will start on Nov 14 2014.Make it happen man.There's gonna be a Dangan Ronpa mafia soon I bet.lol
Post by: webadict on September 26, 2014, 05:14:32 pm
Post by: webadict on September 27, 2014, 05:49:25 pm
I'll put up Magic Mafia 2 into Planned. I won't Queue up until after BYOR13 is done, and that's assuming there's actual space. Otherwise, I'll just wait a while.Aaaaaand, BYOR 13 is over. I'll wait a bit if someone else wants to run a game.
Post by: 4maskwolf on September 27, 2014, 06:10:49 pm
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on September 27, 2014, 07:50:32 pm
Post by: TolyK on September 28, 2014, 04:32:14 am
Also, BYOR13 is finished and should be taken from the OP.
Post by: Jack A T on October 07, 2014, 10:38:58 pm
Post by: flabort on October 08, 2014, 11:53:23 pm
Good thinking on the simplicity front, Jack.
Post by: notquitethere on October 14, 2014, 12:20:45 pm
Post by: Persus13 on October 14, 2014, 01:07:50 pm
There appears to be only one game running (a BM) and none in sign-ups. Is anyone ready to run a game?I think a bunch of people are planning to run games soon. I'm working on making a modified version of GBU with more town power roles and improved wincons.
Post by: TolyK on October 14, 2014, 01:32:19 pm
~15 players.
Post by: Jack A T on October 14, 2014, 02:59:48 pm
There appears to be only one game running (a BM) and none in sign-ups. Is anyone ready to run a game?I'm going to put NSBM 5 up today or tomorrow. Probably today.
Post by: zombie urist on October 14, 2014, 04:19:23 pm
Post by: Jack A T on October 14, 2014, 04:56:23 pm
Post by: Jack A T on October 21, 2014, 03:06:49 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on October 21, 2014, 06:05:09 pm
DanganRonpa Mafia will start signups around November 3rd and the game should on November 14th.Grrr damn your irresistible game.
Post by: 4maskwolf on October 25, 2014, 11:05:42 pm
Add Bring Your Own Pokemon to the waiting list, will you?
Edit: Also, Prince of the Mafia is dead and THF:2050 is shut down, so they can be removed.
Post by: TolyK on October 26, 2014, 12:21:24 am
Post by: Jack A T on October 26, 2014, 12:45:42 am
I think I'll start signups for KYOSN on Monday. That fine with folks?Fine with me. What is KYOSN?
Post by: TolyK on October 26, 2014, 02:52:34 am
Post by: Cheeetar on October 26, 2014, 03:12:59 am
I have no clue what YOS is.
Post by: TolyK on October 26, 2014, 03:15:34 am
Post by: Cheeetar on October 26, 2014, 03:19:28 am
Post by: TolyK on October 26, 2014, 03:40:42 am
And thanks.
Post by: flabort on October 26, 2014, 11:17:47 am
My second was "Flabort, you're a d***".
My third was just maniacal laughter.
Post by: 4maskwolf on October 26, 2014, 03:58:36 pm
Post by: TolyK on October 26, 2014, 11:05:32 pm
I think I'll start signups for KYOSN on Monday. That fine with folks?
:p
And I don't intend on starting until Sunday... Because, well, Halloween...
Post by: TheDarkStar on October 27, 2014, 06:08:30 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on October 27, 2014, 08:02:38 pm
Uh, 4mask...I knew about that, bud, don't worry.I think I'll start signups for KYOSN on Monday. That fine with folks?
:p
And I don't intend on starting until Sunday... Because, well, Halloween...
Post by: mastahcheese on October 28, 2014, 02:33:32 pm
Post by: TheDarkStar on October 29, 2014, 08:39:24 pm
Post by: webadict on October 29, 2014, 08:42:28 pm
I guess I'll run BM 51. Any suggestions for the theme or tips for being the mod?Area 51 / Aliens.
Post by: flabort on October 29, 2014, 08:42:56 pm
Yes. All the yes.I guess I'll run BM 51. Any suggestions for the theme or tips for being the mod?Area 51 / Aliens.
Post by: webadict on October 29, 2014, 08:43:54 pm
I should also make it clear this was the tip for being a mod. I hope the theme turns out well, though.Yes. All the yes.I guess I'll run BM 51. Any suggestions for the theme or tips for being the mod?Area 51 / Aliens.
Post by: TheDarkStar on October 29, 2014, 08:52:08 pm
I should also make it clear this was the tip for being a mod. I hope the theme turns out well, though.Yes. All the yes.I guess I'll run BM 51. Any suggestions for the theme or tips for being the mod?Area 51 / Aliens.
I guess I'll do this, then.
Post by: TheDarkStar on October 30, 2014, 08:52:59 pm
Post by: Jack A T on November 12, 2014, 12:34:40 am
Post by: zombie urist on November 12, 2014, 05:26:22 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on November 12, 2014, 06:21:20 pm
When is bring your own pokemon going to start?It's complicated.
Post by: flabort on November 12, 2014, 09:00:36 pm
Post by: webadict on November 13, 2014, 01:37:47 pm
When Day 2 of KYOSN is over?Just wait until Day -1 starts.
Post by: 4maskwolf on November 13, 2014, 01:59:43 pm
When Day 2 of KYOSN is over?As I said, it's complicated. I need a prospective player to send me their role and then I need to completely rebalance the game.
Post by: Vector on November 14, 2014, 01:55:36 am
Post by: TolyK on November 14, 2014, 02:28:00 am
Dornröschen is in the planning phase....
IN.
Post by: Vector on November 14, 2014, 05:02:00 am
Dornröschen is in the planning phase....
IN.
LOL. It's going to be a while... I'm only just getting started.
Post by: TolyK on November 14, 2014, 05:13:51 am
Post by: TolyK on November 14, 2014, 03:17:25 pm
...
No, you can't !in twice. No.
Post by: 4maskwolf on November 22, 2014, 07:22:14 pm
Post by: TheDarkStar on November 22, 2014, 08:30:48 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on November 27, 2014, 02:09:08 pm
Edit: Also, I need to credit Jiokuy with the idea behind The Guardians, and if he ever comes back I'll withdraw it from the planning and let him run it.
Post by: TolyK on November 27, 2014, 02:10:39 pm
Post by: TheDarkStar on November 27, 2014, 02:25:13 pm
Post by: TolyK on November 27, 2014, 03:01:29 pm
BM 51 needs a fourth replacement.Wow, it seems like a low period for the subforum, huh.
Post by: TheDarkStar on November 27, 2014, 05:39:46 pm
It's fairly common for Beginner's Mafia games.BM 51 needs a fourth replacement.Wow, it seems like a low period for the subforum, huh.
Post by: Teneb on November 27, 2014, 06:31:04 pm
Sometimes we just have bad luck when the current batch of beginners decide they don't like the game. I suppose some of us (ir)regulars could fill in if it gets too bad.It's fairly common for Beginner's Mafia games.BM 51 needs a fourth replacement.Wow, it seems like a low period for the subforum, huh.
Post by: TheDarkStar on November 27, 2014, 06:42:00 pm
This game has actually had more experienced people replace out - both ICs got replaced.Sometimes we just have bad luck when the current batch of beginners decide they don't like the game. I suppose some of us (ir)regulars could fill in if it gets too bad.It's fairly common for Beginner's Mafia games.BM 51 needs a fourth replacement.Wow, it seems like a low period for the subforum, huh.
Post by: notquitethere on November 27, 2014, 06:53:53 pm
Yeah it's bad form.This game has actually had more experienced people replace out - both ICs got replaced.Sometimes we just have bad luck when the current batch of beginners decide they don't like the game. I suppose some of us (ir)regulars could fill in if it gets too bad.It's fairly common for Beginner's Mafia games.BM 51 needs a fourth replacement.Wow, it seems like a low period for the subforum, huh.
Check your pms, I'll replace in.
Post by: Persus13 on November 29, 2014, 12:32:10 am
Sorry about that, I was on a trip and was unaware that the hotel didn't provide free wifi, otherwise I wouldn't have replaced out.This game has actually had more experienced people replace out - both ICs got replaced.Sometimes we just have bad luck when the current batch of beginners decide they don't like the game. I suppose some of us (ir)regulars could fill in if it gets too bad.It's fairly common for Beginner's Mafia games.BM 51 needs a fourth replacement.Wow, it seems like a low period for the subforum, huh.
Post by: TheDarkStar on December 18, 2014, 10:32:31 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on December 30, 2014, 08:23:44 pm
Post by: TolyK on December 31, 2014, 01:20:09 am
Post by: 4maskwolf on January 13, 2015, 09:12:05 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on January 13, 2015, 10:10:48 pm
Lolz this happened :POk I'm actually going to try and get Dangan Ronpa mafia done so that signups will start on Nov 14 2014.Make it happen man.There's gonna be a Dangan Ronpa mafia soon I bet.lol
Post by: zombie urist on January 13, 2015, 10:33:25 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on January 15, 2015, 12:26:34 pm
Post by: TolyK on January 15, 2015, 12:53:06 pm
Been too long since I ran a game. How much interest is there in a Paranormal?Hmm. I've never actually been in one...
Post by: 4maskwolf on January 15, 2015, 02:01:17 pm
Been too long since I ran a game. How much interest is there in a Paranormal?Oooooooh.
Post by: flabort on January 15, 2015, 03:03:44 pm
Been too long since I ran a game. How much interest is there in a Paranormal?More than enough!
Run it run it!
Post by: Cheeetar on January 15, 2015, 03:55:27 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on January 15, 2015, 05:57:53 pm
Post by: Jack A T on January 24, 2015, 07:22:40 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on January 24, 2015, 07:24:03 pm
Throw a Vengeful Mafia into the queue.Out of curiosity, what is that?
Post by: Jack A T on January 24, 2015, 08:09:49 pm
A simple 5 person nightless setup:Throw a Vengeful Mafia into the queue.Out of curiosity, what is that?
Spoiler: Vengeful rules (click to show/hide)
Post by: TheDarkStar on January 24, 2015, 11:42:13 pm
Post by: flabort on January 24, 2015, 11:50:51 pm
Mafioso is lynched day 1.
Towny is lynched day 2, vengekills towny.
Tie game on day 3?
Other than that, the game only lasts two days at most. It's an excellent setup for very fast games.
Post by: Jack A T on January 25, 2015, 01:44:33 am
Scenario in which it lasts as long as possible:Not quite. No vengekills after Day 1.
Mafioso is lynched day 1.
Towny is lynched day 2, vengekills towny.
Tie game on day 3?
Still a short game. Absolute longest a game can last is three das.
Post by: TheDarkStar on January 25, 2015, 10:44:47 am
Post by: Jack A T on January 27, 2015, 02:16:50 am
Post by: Jack A T on February 09, 2015, 01:51:09 am
Post by: TolyK on February 09, 2015, 04:17:43 am
Protip: Don't be lenient with deadlines as a mod. >.<
Post by: notquitethere on February 09, 2015, 07:16:37 am
Post by: 4maskwolf on February 09, 2015, 11:39:41 pm
Just got back on the forums momentarily to see what hijinks have happened and happened to notice that.
Post by: ToonyMan on February 11, 2015, 06:54:47 pm
Put CYOM3 into the queue. I'll be ready to run it after the currently queued games are done.Oh boy oh boy
Post by: notquitethere on February 12, 2015, 02:46:44 pm
It's going to gooooood. I've decided against any major changes from the last game, aside from a few more powers, a second scum team and some potential 3rd parties.Put CYOM3 into the queue. I'll be ready to run it after the currently queued games are done.Oh boy oh boy
Post by: ToonyMan on February 12, 2015, 10:11:26 pm
Dangan RompaLet the romping commence.
Post by: notquitethere on February 18, 2015, 11:10:17 am
Post by: TolyK on February 18, 2015, 03:35:07 pm
Post by: flabort on February 18, 2015, 09:13:06 pm
It looks interesting, and I like the sort of mechanics it offers, while not being too weird; it's also an opportunity for me to run a not-bastard game, while not being a disaster like when I just ran the beginner's mafia - the long standing traditions and rules didn't fit me so much. :P
Post by: Teneb on February 19, 2015, 09:11:32 am
Post by: notquitethere on February 19, 2015, 09:35:19 am
Post by: Toaster on March 02, 2015, 08:42:24 pm
Post by: Persus13 on March 18, 2015, 05:14:36 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on March 22, 2015, 08:29:57 am
Post by: Teneb on March 22, 2015, 09:07:46 am
Post by: Persus13 on March 22, 2015, 09:40:15 am
Post by: flabort on March 22, 2015, 11:02:59 am
Unless whoever is running DBYOR and/or Dangan Rompa shows up.
Post by: notquitethere on March 22, 2015, 11:17:55 am
Would anyone mind if I were to run the Elements game after The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly is done? Or would you rather have me wait a bit?Elements only needs a small number of players and I'd definitely play so I say run it as soon as you feel like.
Post by: Teneb on March 22, 2015, 11:55:18 am
Spoiler: rules (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: roles (click to show/hide)
Post by: Mephansteras on March 22, 2015, 08:35:27 pm
Post by: origamiscienceguy on March 22, 2015, 10:42:15 pm
Post by: notquitethere on March 23, 2015, 06:36:09 am
Mostly looks good, two small things:
Water's Sentinel power looks like it should be '2' attacks nullified by each of the player's protect, otherwise I can't see how it differs from normal protecting.
Put Fresh Breath first in Air's list as it's not a one-shot.
Wood's two damaging powers are quite similar, but one seems less useful. Also, three of their powers are ally-helping powers. I guess that's OK, but obviously something the Wood player should bare in mind when playing.
Post by: Shakerag on March 30, 2015, 09:05:57 am
EDIT: Awright. Going to try and run BM LIV.
EDIT2: And it's up. (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=149777.0)
Post by: Teneb on April 04, 2015, 08:10:11 am
Post by: Shakerag on April 14, 2015, 09:14:33 am
Post by: 4maskwolf on April 14, 2015, 01:35:45 pm
Post by: Teneb on April 22, 2015, 12:55:58 pm
Post by: Shakerag on May 01, 2015, 02:45:02 pm
Post by: origamiscienceguy on May 04, 2015, 02:18:31 pm
edit: once I get home, of course. I can't setup quickchats at school :P
Post by: origamiscienceguy on May 08, 2015, 06:59:13 pm
Post by: Jack A T on May 12, 2015, 04:44:41 pm
Post by: origamiscienceguy on May 12, 2015, 05:57:18 pm
We've got nothing but The Guardians running. I'm thinking about running a second Cult Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=92881.0). Anyone interested?love to. My AP exams are over, and I've got some time until finals.
Post by: TheDarkStar on May 12, 2015, 06:01:44 pm
Post by: Peradon on May 12, 2015, 08:13:51 pm
We've got nothing but The Guardians running. I'm thinking about running a second Cult Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=92881.0). Anyone interested?I'd be willing to play....
Post by: Persus13 on May 12, 2015, 08:37:57 pm
We've got nothing but The Guardians running. I'm thinking about running a second Cult Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=92881.0). Anyone interested?As long as it didn't start in the next week I'd be interested.
Post by: Jack A T on May 13, 2015, 03:28:06 pm
EDIT: Cult Mafia 2 is now in signups.
Post by: Jack A T on May 15, 2015, 04:47:59 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on May 19, 2015, 12:34:31 pm
Post by: Peradon on May 19, 2015, 12:42:58 pm
Post by: flabort on May 19, 2015, 12:50:52 pm
Post by: Jack A T on May 19, 2015, 02:43:46 pm
I'm thinking about starting up another Supernatural game. Any interest?Honestly, when isn't there interest in one of your games?
Post by: origamiscienceguy on May 19, 2015, 02:52:30 pm
Ive never experienced one before. But by all means, start one up.I'm thinking about starting up another Supernatural game. Any interest?Honestly, when isn't there interest in one of your games?
Post by: Mephansteras on May 19, 2015, 08:16:42 pm
Post by: Teneb on May 24, 2015, 01:45:07 pm
Post by: webadict on June 01, 2015, 05:19:44 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on June 02, 2015, 03:44:02 pm
Might as well put BYOR 14 into the Queue. Good to go whenever anyone wants. I have just enough time this summer to run a game.Hell..
yes
Post by: webadict on June 02, 2015, 07:08:35 pm
And I'll even try to write flavor.Might as well put BYOR 14 into the Queue. Good to go whenever anyone wants. I have just enough time this summer to run a game.Hell..
yes
Post by: Jack A T on June 02, 2015, 07:12:04 pm
Post by: TheDarkStar on June 02, 2015, 07:33:42 pm
I already know what I'll submit, and for once it's not Canadian.
Can I be Canadian this time? :P
Post by: origamiscienceguy on June 02, 2015, 07:35:38 pm
Post by: Jack A T on June 02, 2015, 07:36:38 pm
I won't enforce my exclusive right to Canada this game, don't worry.I already know what I'll submit, and for once it's not Canadian.Can I be Canadian this time? :P
Post by: 4maskwolf on June 02, 2015, 07:37:13 pm
Wuba: Since I may not be around when you start it, put me on the replacement list. I'm going to be out of town for quite a while, but if the game is still going by July 21st or something I'll be able to replace in.
Post by: webadict on June 02, 2015, 08:46:31 pm
Damn...Well, I won't start it until I get the go ahead from others. I sort of just showed up, and I don't want to take anyone's spot that's been waiting. That's rude, yo. And seeing as how it's one of my games, it's about 99% likely to still be going by July 21st. The other 1% is from the three mafias all killing everyone while the martyr makes a sac-pact, simultaneously killing off all the mafia, letting the lone Survivor-turned-SK to win by killing his own Brother.
Wuba: Since I may not be around when you start it, put me on the replacement list. I'm going to be out of town for quite a while, but if the game is still going by July 21st or something I'll be able to replace in.
Post by: Jack A T on June 02, 2015, 08:49:51 pm
Post by: TheDarkStar on June 02, 2015, 09:31:27 pm
Post by: Jack A T on June 02, 2015, 09:34:27 pm
Post by: webadict on June 02, 2015, 09:47:31 pm
Which BYOR was that?14.
Post by: Shakerag on June 03, 2015, 12:07:04 am
Might as well put BYOR 14 into the Queue. Good to go whenever anyone wants. I have just enough time this summer to run a game.Yay!
I'm out until the 9th. So reserve me a spot if you open signups before then. Now to think up my next role ...
Post by: flabort on June 03, 2015, 01:14:42 am
Post by: TheDarkStar on June 03, 2015, 06:48:28 am
I was going to put FHPBYOR2 onto the queue, but I guess I should wait until there's another game after BYOR14.
I guess I'll have time to think of a new list of 50 roles. :P
Post by: webadict on June 03, 2015, 09:47:59 am
It won't start for at least two weeks. I'll put it into signups when a game ends and no other game ahead of me in queue wishes to start.Might as well put BYOR 14 into the Queue. Good to go whenever anyone wants. I have just enough time this summer to run a game.Yay!
I'm out until the 9th. So reserve me a spot if you open signups before then. Now to think up my next role ...
Post by: zombie urist on June 03, 2015, 11:48:23 am
Post by: webadict on June 03, 2015, 01:41:43 pm
Danganronpa mafia will not be starting until November.... Is this a perpetual joke or will it actually start in November?
Post by: flabort on June 03, 2015, 02:01:29 pm
Post by: zombie urist on June 03, 2015, 02:10:44 pm
Post by: webadict on June 03, 2015, 07:11:40 pm
It's not a joke it was supposed to startnovember last year but I didn't have enough time to prep so I delayed it a year.Alright, then. There's four other mafias ahead of me that are free to start. If they don't get claimed (in some sort of indefinite time period) or they're given up, I'll open sign-ups. But, I don't want to get in anyone's way, seeing as how I haven't been waiting as long as they have.
Post by: flabort on June 03, 2015, 07:17:32 pm
where did i put those notes. i know theyre in a folder somewhere.
Post by: ToonyMan on June 03, 2015, 11:08:25 pm
UpupupuDanganronpa mafia will not be starting until November.... Is this a perpetual joke or will it actually start in November?
Post by: webadict on June 04, 2015, 06:45:40 pm
Right. And I forgot one of the games in the list was mine. :P If you want to run BYOR14 before C9++, you can.Well, if it ain't grabbed by Saturday, I'll put BYOR 14 into sign-ups.
where did i put those notes. i know theyre in a folder somewhere.
SATURDAY, POTENTIAL MODS! You have until Saturday!
Post by: Shakerag on June 05, 2015, 08:35:02 am
Post by: webadict on June 05, 2015, 06:37:15 pm
Post by: Jack A T on June 09, 2015, 10:14:46 am
Simple idea: people send in prior games of Mafia, and I'll give roles based on their flavour.
Post by: Jack A T on June 09, 2015, 06:49:27 pm
Post by: webadict on June 09, 2015, 08:42:08 pm
Add Bring Your Own Bay 12 Mafia to the queue for quite some time from now.Guaranteed role: Kill Webadict Now.
Simple idea: people send in prior games of Mafia, and I'll give roles based on their flavour.
Post by: Shakerag on June 09, 2015, 09:59:44 pm
Supernatural, Paranormal, something from Vector, and maybe a BYOR: Choices?Add Bring Your Own Bay 12 Mafia to the queue for quite some time from now.Guaranteed role: Kill Webadict Now.
Simple idea: people send in prior games of Mafia, and I'll give roles based on their flavour.
Post by: Jack A T on June 09, 2015, 10:02:01 pm
Post by: TheDarkStar on June 09, 2015, 10:24:59 pm
Supernatural, Paranormal, something from Vector, and maybe a BYOR: Choices?Add Bring Your Own Bay 12 Mafia to the queue for quite some time from now.Guaranteed role: Kill Webadict Now.
Simple idea: people send in prior games of Mafia, and I'll give roles based on their flavour.
Maybe the one Bring Someone Else's Role that ended up with a Wall Of Flesh win?
Post by: Jim Groovester on June 09, 2015, 10:33:53 pm
Post by: flabort on June 09, 2015, 10:39:12 pm
Post by: Persus13 on June 09, 2015, 10:57:03 pm
Post by: flabort on June 09, 2015, 10:58:58 pm
Post by: Jack A T on June 09, 2015, 11:06:05 pm
So BYOR: Choices would cause chaos.
Kingmaker 4?Kingmaker ability with random targets, a post restriction requiring you to post at least once an hour or be called a lurker, a one-shot ragelynch...
KYOSNThe Velociraptor That Ate Vector To Become a Shakerag So That Shakerag Could Die, a mason with Shakerag.
Or possibly a sleeping god watcher who makes incomprehensible things happen each day until you win.
Or worse, if Bring Your Own Bay12 Mafia was their submission for Bring Your Own Bay12 Mafia. :PNope.
Post by: Shakerag on June 10, 2015, 09:12:58 am
On second thought, I'll base the roles on each game in general. For maximum fun.Well then. Now someone needs to submit that game where everyone submitted dozens of roles and they all got handed out.
Post by: Toaster on June 10, 2015, 09:31:23 am
and I'd be happy if a roguelike got submitted
Post by: flabort on June 10, 2015, 05:58:54 pm
That'd be the game I ran. FHPBYOR.On second thought, I'll base the roles on each game in general. For maximum fun.Well then. Now someone needs to submit that game where everyone submitted dozens of roles and they all got handed out.
Post by: webadict on June 17, 2015, 06:31:23 am
Post by: 4maskwolf on June 28, 2015, 11:37:44 am
Also, but Dreamscape Mafia in the queue.
Post by: 4maskwolf on June 29, 2015, 07:40:27 pm
Remove Dreamscape Mafia from the queue, it's already there under a slightly different name.
Post by: flabort on July 09, 2015, 12:35:43 pm
Post by: flabort on July 09, 2015, 01:25:35 pm
So two fold C9++ is in sign-ups now.
Post by: Teneb on August 06, 2015, 01:11:17 pm
Post by: TheDarkStar on August 06, 2015, 01:24:48 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on August 06, 2015, 02:44:43 pm
Too quiet around here. Too few players or too few mods?
Post by: TheDarkStar on August 06, 2015, 03:14:47 pm
Noted.
Too quiet around here. Too few players or too few mods?
We have two mods without players and a game without a mod, so it's just a logistics issue. :P
Post by: FallacyofUrist on August 06, 2015, 03:41:04 pm
I'd love to play another game of Mafia, though, and possibly run one of my own once I've got more experience.
Post by: Teneb on August 06, 2015, 03:52:56 pm
Hm. In general, there don't seem to be as many players here as in the main subforum or in the Roll to Dodge section.The length of mafia games tends to put people off. Also, I'd say you did well enough that you could move on to a non-bm game.
I'd love to play another game of Mafia, though, and possibly run one of my own once I've got more experience.
Post by: zombie urist on August 06, 2015, 07:23:41 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on August 06, 2015, 07:27:07 pm
True enough. I'm already signed up for Two Fold C9++. Although I have to say that might be a bit more difficult.Hm. In general, there don't seem to be as many players here as in the main subforum or in the Roll to Dodge section.The length of mafia games tends to put people off. Also, I'd say you did well enough that you could move on to a non-bm game.
I'd love to play another game of Mafia, though, and possibly run one of my own once I've got more experience.
Would anyone mind if I run byop (bring your own picture) 3? Danganronpa is still on track for novemberMight be interesting. I wouldn't mind.
Post by: TheDarkStar on August 06, 2015, 08:54:14 pm
Would anyone mind if I run byop (bring your own picture) 3? Danganronpa is still on track for november
I wouldn't mind either.
Post by: Teneb on August 06, 2015, 09:15:49 pm
I'd join it.Would anyone mind if I run byop (bring your own picture) 3? Danganronpa is still on track for novemberI wouldn't mind either.
Post by: zombie urist on August 06, 2015, 11:12:45 pm
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=152454.0
Post by: flabort on August 19, 2015, 12:16:35 am
TwoFold C9++ is started too now.
Post by: zombie urist on August 22, 2015, 09:54:15 pm
Post by: flabort on August 23, 2015, 11:21:36 am
With the chance for up to two more starting on Monday.
Post by: Mephansteras on August 27, 2015, 04:25:06 pm
I've added it to the Queue.
Post by: flabort on August 27, 2015, 04:36:15 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on August 31, 2015, 10:37:54 pm
My life is starting to finally ease up a bit on time, so I may be trying out a new Semi-Bastard game in the next month or so called THE SYSTEM. It's going to be fairly unique since it'll utilize my board Moderator powers.Damn it.
I've added it to the Queue.
Right when I enter college too...
I have no idea whether my free time will increase or decrease, so I won't make any promises about whether or not I will join (although, knowing Bay12, a whole bunch of lurking veterans will join before I even have the chance).
Mephansteras: May as well remove Dreamscape Pioneers for now, I'm in no state of life to run a game, and after my last bastard failed I want to run some more standard setups before I run that semi-bastard one.
Post by: Shakerag on September 01, 2015, 08:54:49 am
Right when I enter college too...Have fun while it lasts. Being an adult sucks.
Post by: Toaster on September 01, 2015, 11:18:04 am
Post by: Shakerag on September 01, 2015, 02:57:18 pm
Screw that, though. Don't let anyone else define "adult" for you.I'm buying a house, Toaster. A house.
I'm going to need to do shit like ... mow the lawn! And change air filters! And pay off a mortgage!
D:
Post by: notquitethere on September 01, 2015, 03:04:40 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on September 01, 2015, 03:50:48 pm
Post by: Shakerag on September 01, 2015, 04:44:04 pm
Eh, it's not so bad. Sure, you've got more responsibilities, but you also have a decent amount of freedom and disposable income. Well, unless you have kids.Kids. Not even once.
Hell, I thought looking after rats was too much responsibility >_>
Post by: TheDarkStar on September 01, 2015, 08:34:04 pm
Eh, it's not so bad. Sure, you've got more responsibilities, but you also have a decent amount of freedom and disposable income. Well, unless you have kids.Kids. Not even once.
Hell, I thought looking after rats was too much responsibility >_>
Kids do have some advantages, though. Like free labor when they get old enough.
Post by: notquitethere on September 01, 2015, 08:36:52 pm
Post by: TheDarkStar on September 01, 2015, 09:23:04 pm
I'm pretty sure most parents put more labour into raising their children than they get back out again.*most* parents
Be the 1%!
:P
Post by: Jim Groovester on September 01, 2015, 10:55:08 pm
Days last one hour, and are held at a bar.
Nights last until the next Day can be scheduled, usually lasting several weeks.
Dead people can still play during the Day phase.
Participation in the Day phase is optional.
Post by: Jack A T on September 02, 2015, 02:09:16 pm
Ideas:
*Bring Your Own Song
*Bring Your Own Academic Journal Article
*Bring Your Own Sentence
Oh, and BM LVI and Cultists and Churchgoers are running.
Post by: Frostmoon on September 02, 2015, 02:16:25 pm
Post by: Shakerag on September 02, 2015, 10:32:13 pm
*Bring Your Own SongI could get behind this idea. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruef7aYCEbc)
Post by: TheDarkStar on September 02, 2015, 10:33:48 pm
Post by: Shakerag on September 02, 2015, 10:34:35 pm
Bring Your Own Song song choices might need rules similar to the ones for BYOPs. ::)Annnd here comes the fun police D:
Post by: Jack A T on September 03, 2015, 11:21:26 am
If I were to accept it (which I probably wouldn't), the role based on it would pretty much have to be a tracker of some sort (how could it not be?).
Post by: Shakerag on September 03, 2015, 03:22:47 pm
Somewhere close to the edge of the sexually oriented content rule, but almost certainly on the safe side. Still, I'd be uneasy.Rules aside, it would be pretty hilarious.
If I were to accept it (which I probably wouldn't), the role based on it would pretty much have to be a tracker of some sort (how could it not be?).
The flavortext for the PMs would be memorable.
Post by: Cheeetar on September 03, 2015, 03:53:35 pm
Post by: zombie urist on September 04, 2015, 12:05:43 am
Post by: Jack A T on September 04, 2015, 12:22:35 pm
Also, looking for ICs for the current BM. Please apply.
Post by: Persus13 on September 04, 2015, 05:08:22 pm
Throw Bring Your Own Song on the queue, for sometime before BYOB12M.Does it have to be songs, or does music in general count?
Also, looking for ICs for the current BM. Please apply.
Post by: Jack A T on September 04, 2015, 05:16:08 pm
Post by: Peradon on September 05, 2015, 09:13:15 pm
Post by: zombie urist on September 05, 2015, 11:21:03 pm
Post by: Peradon on September 05, 2015, 11:39:06 pm
Post by: Jack A T on September 06, 2015, 06:59:02 pm
Ok guys, I'm back from hiatus, and I'm raring to get a go with another mafia game. Now whats this about a bring your own song mafia?It's something I'll start sometime soonish, at minimum a good way into the BM (which still needs a Scum IC, by the way). Hopefully, it will be good.
Post by: Tawa on September 07, 2015, 12:22:33 pm
Post by: Peradon on September 07, 2015, 09:57:04 pm
Yeah, I've never been scum, so I cant be a scum IC... That wouldnt work at all.Ok guys, I'm back from hiatus, and I'm raring to get a go with another mafia game. Now whats this about a bring your own song mafia?It's something I'll start sometime soonish, at minimum a good way into the BM (which still needs a Scum IC, by the way). Hopefully, it will be good.
But I am looking forward to the BYOS! That will be fun!
Oh, and I dont think I will replace into the BYOR thats going on now. I think I need to be there from the beginning to really add something to the game, and I havent been there, so I dont think I would be the best choice.
Post by: zombie urist on September 07, 2015, 11:27:20 pm
BYOP3 is over.
Post by: flabort on September 08, 2015, 09:30:30 pm
Post by: Jack A T on September 09, 2015, 11:06:08 pm
Not much that you would have to read.
Post by: Jack A T on September 17, 2015, 11:49:48 pm
Post by: zombie urist on September 18, 2015, 12:04:03 am
Post by: notquitethere on September 18, 2015, 03:36:17 am
Post by: Tawa on September 18, 2015, 10:44:18 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on September 25, 2015, 10:51:55 am
Post by: ToonyMan on September 25, 2015, 11:41:07 am
I think I'm about ready to run THE SYSTEM. If it goes into sign-ups next week would that work for people?I'm pretty busy but it would probably work.
Post by: TheDarkStar on September 25, 2015, 06:21:25 pm
I think I'm about ready to run THE SYSTEM. If it goes into sign-ups next week would that work for people?
It would work.
Post by: Peradon on September 25, 2015, 11:21:41 pm
I might play it...
Post by: Mephansteras on September 26, 2015, 10:32:55 am
What is this THE SYSTEM thing...?
I might play it...
It's a semi-bastard game that is going to use my moderator powers to go back and edit people's posts as part of the game.
Post by: Teneb on September 26, 2015, 12:17:05 pm
Won't it show that you edited the post, though?What is this THE SYSTEM thing...?
I might play it...
It's a semi-bastard game that is going to use my moderator powers to go back and edit people's posts as part of the game.
Post by: Peradon on September 26, 2015, 12:28:11 pm
Oh my....What is this THE SYSTEM thing...?
I might play it...
It's a semi-bastard game that is going to use my moderator powers to go back and edit people's posts as part of the game.
Yup, I'd be in for that.
Post by: Mephansteras on September 26, 2015, 02:05:47 pm
Won't it show that you edited the post, though?What is this THE SYSTEM thing...?
I might play it...
It's a semi-bastard game that is going to use my moderator powers to go back and edit people's posts as part of the game.
Of course, but that's accounted for in the design of the game.
Post by: flabort on September 28, 2015, 08:19:50 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on September 29, 2015, 11:32:17 am
Post by: Tawa on October 01, 2015, 02:53:05 pm
Post by: origamiscienceguy on October 14, 2015, 12:21:02 pm
Post by: TolyK on October 14, 2015, 01:52:36 pm
Edit: The period between sign-ups and actual game start for this game would be longer than usual, btw.
Post by: flabort on October 14, 2015, 02:04:25 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on October 14, 2015, 02:07:15 pm
Post by: TolyK on October 14, 2015, 02:08:23 pm
Post by: Jack A T on October 14, 2015, 02:36:46 pm
The queue is getting pretty big. Are there any on there that should be bumped back down to the 'planned' section?BYOB12M can be thrown there for now.
Post by: Mephansteras on October 19, 2015, 10:17:10 am
Post by: Toaster on October 21, 2015, 12:22:37 pm
Sorry for the delays.
Post by: TheDarkStar on October 21, 2015, 06:23:15 pm
Post by: Shakerag on October 22, 2015, 09:00:14 am
We only have one game running ATM, so starting within the next week or two should be fine.True, but activity levels are kind of crap right now.
Post by: ToonyMan on October 22, 2015, 01:32:59 pm
Post by: flabort on October 22, 2015, 01:52:16 pm
Post by: origamiscienceguy on October 28, 2015, 01:41:10 pm
Post by: TolyK on October 28, 2015, 01:58:16 pm
Post by: Teneb on October 28, 2015, 03:27:33 pm
Post by: origamiscienceguy on October 28, 2015, 05:19:58 pm
Post by: TheDarkStar on October 28, 2015, 09:04:31 pm
I have communism simulator mafia ready to go. But I don't want to take away players from Tolyk's game
It should be fine (since there are no currently active games) unless it takes a lot of players to play.
Post by: origamiscienceguy on October 28, 2015, 09:08:11 pm
Meph: Communism simulator Mafia is now in sign-ups.
Post by: origamiscienceguy on November 17, 2015, 09:40:58 pm
Post by: Jack A T on November 20, 2015, 12:12:00 pm
Post by: TolyK on November 20, 2015, 12:55:51 pm
Also, my own game (GDC) is being set back to the middle of January or something.
Post by: Jack A T on December 15, 2015, 11:56:07 pm
Post by: Megggas on December 16, 2015, 10:00:52 am
Post by: origamiscienceguy on December 25, 2015, 09:05:52 pm
It's name is Local Emergency Mafia.
Put it in the queue please, and CONSUMERISM has ended.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on December 25, 2015, 09:12:51 pm
Post by: origamiscienceguy on December 25, 2015, 09:16:27 pm
Huh. Did you ever get that evaluated?nope. Do you want to evaluate it? You could also help me manage the game if you want (make sure I don't make votecount mistakes etc.)
Post by: FallacyofUrist on December 25, 2015, 09:40:07 pm
Post by: flabort on January 08, 2016, 11:24:43 pm
Or are the owners of DBYOR or KOTM 5 still around to claim dibs?
Speaking of which, it seems Miners and Nobles has died "due to tantrum spiral" and is no-longer in sign-ups, and salsacookies has canceled a Game of Masks. It seems open for someone to take it over, but there's no sign of that happening. That leaves Big Top Mafia as the only game in sign-ups right now.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 08, 2016, 11:28:59 pm
Is it alright to throw FHPBYOR2 into signups?*Reads this twice, then again*
I would much appreciate it if you would reserve a spot. I want to be part of history.
Post by: flabort on January 08, 2016, 11:31:49 pm
Haha, there's X+1 spots, where X is the number of players who want to sign up. By which I mean there's no need to reserve, just sign up when I get permission to put it up. OP's all ready to go.Is it alright to throw FHPBYOR2 into signups?*Reads this twice, then again*
I would much appreciate it if you would reserve a spot. I want to be part of history.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 08, 2016, 11:32:57 pm
You have lifted my spirits, good sir.
Post by: origamiscienceguy on January 09, 2016, 03:15:23 pm
KHAAAAAA... *cough cough* I mean, SALSACOOKIIEESSS!!!
Post by: flabort on January 09, 2016, 03:38:45 pm
FHPBYOR2 has entered sign-ups.
Post by: Mephansteras on January 10, 2016, 02:24:13 pm
Adding Corruption Mafia to the queue. I think I'll try to run it sometime in February.
Post by: TheDarkStar on January 10, 2016, 05:15:33 pm
Edit: The BM is running; feel free to tell me if you don't like the flavortext.
Post by: Jack A T on January 15, 2016, 10:42:57 am
Anyone want in?
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 15, 2016, 11:37:49 am
I plan to run a BYOR sooner or later(likely a month or two later), so mind throwing in Fallacy's BYOR into the planned games list?
Post by: flabort on January 17, 2016, 04:50:33 pm
Due to mod error, I have had to replace two people out of Bring Your Own Song. While I have one replacement lined up, I need another.Can't be me, but if it could have been...
Anyone want in?
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 17, 2016, 05:39:26 pm
~~~
In any case. It will do.
Post by: origamiscienceguy on January 27, 2016, 11:00:26 am
It will not start until Flaborts BYOM is finished.
Post by: Jack A T on January 27, 2016, 08:07:13 pm
Post by: Jack A T on January 31, 2016, 04:47:06 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on January 31, 2016, 05:03:34 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 04, 2016, 08:50:05 pm
Post by: flabort on February 04, 2016, 09:06:10 pm
FHPBYOR 2 has started. And it's awesome.Thanks. Forgot to say this myself.
Post by: Reverie on February 07, 2016, 02:40:11 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 07, 2016, 03:44:21 pm
Post by: TheDarkStar on February 07, 2016, 04:19:24 pm
This subforum is immortal. I'm glad to see there has been some turnover and lots of enthusiasm since I left!
Oddly enough, I don't remember you. How long has it been since you last played mafia here?
Post by: Reverie on February 07, 2016, 04:24:55 pm
Oddly enough, I don't remember you. How long has it been since you last played mafia here?It's been maybe two years since my last game? I'll have to say the feeling's reciprocal. I'm seeing lots of new faces!
Post by: TolyK on February 08, 2016, 12:38:00 am
Post by: Jack A T on February 08, 2016, 01:33:08 am
Post by: Mephansteras on February 08, 2016, 11:13:43 am
- DBYOR
- KOTM 5
Post by: Toaster on February 08, 2016, 04:32:02 pm
Post by: flabort on February 08, 2016, 04:54:23 pm
Post by: Toaster on February 09, 2016, 10:55:07 am
Post by: Jack A T on February 10, 2016, 02:15:28 pm
Post by: origamiscienceguy on February 10, 2016, 02:20:53 pm
Post by: Jack A T on February 10, 2016, 06:21:58 pm
Post by: Reverie on February 11, 2016, 05:12:43 am
Post by: TheDarkStar on February 11, 2016, 06:52:21 am
Post by: Jack A T on February 11, 2016, 04:42:25 pm
It's been a while since we last had four non-BMs running at once.
Post by: notquitethere on February 20, 2016, 12:45:21 pm
Post by: origamiscienceguy on February 20, 2016, 12:47:40 pm
I've got a mafia-like game I'd like to run. It has hidden roles but it's more about collaborative puzzle solving. It wouldn't be too out of place on the Forum Games subforum, but I'd like to run it here due to the superior playerbase. Should I still queue it or are people in the queue happy if I go ahead and run it?There are a lot of games running right now. I think queueing (5 consecutive vowels) is a better option.
Post by: TolyK on February 20, 2016, 01:21:27 pm
superior playerbase:D
Otherwise, I agree with OSG. I'd be interested, but probably only after FHPBYOR finishes or I die there.
Post by: notquitethere on February 20, 2016, 01:49:32 pm
But OK, for now I'll place Puzzle Temple Panic! in the queue.
Post by: flabort on February 21, 2016, 01:25:38 am
Whichever comes last.superior playerbase:D
Otherwise, I agree with OSG. I'd be interested, but probably only after FHPBYOR finishes or I die there.
Post by: Tawa on February 21, 2016, 03:06:27 am
Post by: Shakerag on February 22, 2016, 10:13:55 am
Puzzles? I sense the perfect time to make a bunch of Professor Layton references. Color me interested.And then Tawarochir was a clockwork robot all along.
Post by: Deus Asmoth on February 22, 2016, 11:07:36 pm
Post by: fillipk on February 22, 2016, 11:22:16 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on February 23, 2016, 09:34:30 pm
Post by: Toaster on February 24, 2016, 09:02:18 am
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 24, 2016, 09:10:44 am
And a not so grand total of one game above KOTM5.
Speaking of which, whose game is DBYOR?
Post by: Toaster on February 24, 2016, 09:30:55 am
Actually. You know what?
Why the hell not. DBYOR. On queue please.
(in two-four weeks?)
It's been there a while.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 24, 2016, 09:40:52 am
Post by: TolyK on February 24, 2016, 09:41:56 am
Meph, any scheduled/in-queue games I have currently should be moved to "planned/indefinite schedule", since I have the main idea for them but don't know when I'll have the time.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 24, 2016, 09:43:20 am
Which means KOTM5... it's time to run it. Right?
Post by: Mephansteras on February 24, 2016, 11:10:08 am
Right. Oh, and no need to PM.
Meph, any scheduled/in-queue games I have currently should be moved to "planned/indefinite schedule", since I have the main idea for them but don't know when I'll have the time.
Do you have any other than DBYOR? I really don't keep track of who is modding what game on that list.
Post by: TolyK on February 24, 2016, 11:12:03 am
Post by: Toaster on February 24, 2016, 11:18:52 am
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 24, 2016, 11:24:33 am
In my opinion, you could put the sign ups for KOTM5 up now, but wait to start it until FHPBYOR2 ends. By the time FHPBYOR2 ends, Vengeful will likely have ended also. So the number of games running at that point will be the same as previously.
So... I'd say put the sign ups up now, then wait until after FHPBYOR2 finishes to run it. But that's just my opinion.
Post by: TolyK on February 24, 2016, 11:28:12 am
Will also let me join KotM, since I actually have never played it. >.>
Post by: 4maskwolf on February 24, 2016, 12:54:07 pm
Post by: Toaster on February 24, 2016, 12:58:35 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 25, 2016, 11:03:33 pm
Post by: Toaster on February 25, 2016, 11:12:48 pm
Post by: Shakerag on February 26, 2016, 10:26:39 am
B-Baka! It's not like I wanted you to list my game or anything, Games Threshold Discussion and List-senpai.
Post by: notquitethere on February 26, 2016, 12:34:52 pm
Post by: Residays on February 26, 2016, 04:41:48 pm
Rules:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
The Setup: (20 Players)
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
The Roles:
The City:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
The Smugglers: (Wins when outnumbering everyone else)
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
The Neutrals:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Extras:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: origamiscienceguy on February 26, 2016, 05:03:48 pm
Post by: Residays on February 26, 2016, 05:05:54 pm
I don't think that 20 players would sign up. This forum isn't quite big enough.
How many players do you suggest?
Post by: Persus13 on February 26, 2016, 05:13:05 pm
Post by: TolyK on February 26, 2016, 05:18:49 pm
People new to GMing here usually (co-)host a Beginner's mafia to get accustomed to our "culture" (voting/unvoting in Red, the scumtells that are generally used, etc.)
Otherwise, welcome!
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 26, 2016, 07:15:07 pm
Interesting setup.
If I'm correct, the current record for most players in a game on mafia on Bay 12 was Pandarsenic's uPick(19 players). I think it might also hold the record for longest day phase.
And wow. Do you have experience modding mafia games?
Post by: 4maskwolf on February 26, 2016, 07:17:38 pm
Oh ho.I'd fact-check that, I'm pretty sure in the heyday of this subforum there may have been larger games.
Interesting setup.
If I'm correct, the current record for most players in a game on mafia on Bay 12 was Pandarsenic's uPick(19 players). I think it might also hold the record for longest day phase.
And wow. Do you have experience modding mafia games?
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 26, 2016, 07:24:12 pm
Post by: Toaster on February 26, 2016, 09:21:07 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on February 26, 2016, 09:22:10 pm
I'm pretty sure 19 is indeed the biggest, but I won't swear to it. It's certainly the biggest by post count. I also saw an 18 (BYOPicture) and 17 (BYOR 13). Several Paranormals were 16.Yeah, I just realized that the game I thought of as "large" (FHPBYOR 1, which granted wasn't during the subforum's heyday but was big by my standards) was only 15 people.
Post by: Jack A T on February 26, 2016, 10:22:43 pm
Post by: flabort on February 27, 2016, 12:33:57 am
I think it might also hold the record for longest day phase.Not for long. >.>
Post by: Deus Asmoth on February 27, 2016, 02:48:30 am
Well, you only have yourself to blame.
Post by: Residays on February 27, 2016, 01:58:19 pm
Post by: TolyK on February 27, 2016, 02:20:35 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 27, 2016, 03:21:06 pm
~~~
Residays: You sound like you have a lot of mafia GMing experience, but from a different forum. After Corruption Mafia, I'm going to be running a BYOR(bring your own role) for 9 players, 7 town and 2 scum. Would you like to act as my co-mod for that game(I gain the benefit of having someone more experienced look over my setup and how I process role actions, keep the time zones in check, while you gain the benefit of seeing firsthand how we do mafia games on Bay 12), once it comes up in the queue?
Post by: 4maskwolf on February 27, 2016, 03:43:58 pm
Post by: Residays on February 27, 2016, 05:31:14 pm
The way we do it here is that a player looks at a mafia game in sign ups, then posts "in" if they're eligible to play(most games don't have a requirement, but some do(for instance FHPBYOR2)).
~~~
Residays: You sound like you have a lot of mafia GMing experience, but from a different forum. After Corruption Mafia, I'm going to be running a BYOR(bring your own role) for 9 players, 7 town and 2 scum. Would you like to act as my co-mod for that game(I gain the benefit of having someone more experienced look over my setup and how I process role actions, keep the time zones in check, while you gain the benefit of seeing firsthand how we do mafia games on Bay 12), once it comes up in the queue?
I would gladly be your co-mod, Just PM me all things needed. Also, if we could use an outside communication private chat, it would be even better.
Post by: Skynet on February 28, 2016, 06:59:22 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on February 28, 2016, 08:29:16 pm
Post by: Residays on February 28, 2016, 08:31:12 pm
I would like someone to review a game I have written ("Skynet's Seduction") for balance reasons, before I formally put it into the queue. As a bonus, if you review it, you can find out what my original account's name is.
May I review?
Post by: TheDarkStar on February 28, 2016, 10:54:04 pm
As a bonus, if you review it, you can find out what my original account's name is.
You're Pathos, correct? :P
Post by: flabort on February 29, 2016, 01:28:32 am
I'm going to say Correct. Because so are you, and me.As a bonus, if you review it, you can find out what my original account's name is.
You're Pathos, correct? :P
Post by: Skynet on February 29, 2016, 09:03:26 am
Post by: Residays on March 01, 2016, 02:52:54 pm
We’ll be playing it real-time, 6 minutes day phase, 3 minutes night phase.
Keep in mind these things:
-It will be hard to play if you decide to join via mobile, but still possible.
-You will only have access to the text channel ¨acidcitytrouble¨ once I make you have the ¨ACTPlayer¨ role.
-Only people with the ACTPlayer rank and me are able to see and use the channel.
-I will disallow typing during night phases.
-We will start once we have at least 17 players.
-You can join without registering.
Rules, roles and investigation results can be found here: http://pastebin.com/Vk41w339
Post by: notquitethere on March 11, 2016, 04:30:40 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 11, 2016, 05:23:43 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on March 11, 2016, 07:20:29 pm
le whoa.
I did not expect my(and Residays') game to come up so fast.
That isn't to say I won't run it, however.
I'm going to put up the thread. The game itself will start when FHPBYOR2 finishes.
Post by: notquitethere on March 18, 2016, 06:46:00 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on March 18, 2016, 08:17:48 pm
Post by: origamiscienceguy on March 20, 2016, 06:30:53 pm
Post by: origamiscienceguy on March 23, 2016, 09:12:10 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on March 24, 2016, 04:53:14 pm
Post by: Jack A T on March 28, 2016, 03:02:08 pm
Post by: origamiscienceguy on March 28, 2016, 03:14:32 pm
Post by: Shakerag on April 01, 2016, 03:08:17 pm
Post by: pisskop on April 01, 2016, 03:12:31 pm
Post by: hector13 on April 06, 2016, 12:42:28 am
Wanna Mod Reverse Mafia.
Are you willing to share some details on this..? Sounds interesting.
Post by: flabort on April 06, 2016, 12:50:09 am
Post by: hector13 on April 06, 2016, 12:51:17 am
Post by: O.Wilde on April 07, 2016, 02:56:27 pm
Post by: notquitethere on April 16, 2016, 03:53:59 pm
Post by: flabort on April 16, 2016, 04:06:37 pm
Flabort's High Powered Bring Your Own Role 2 has Officially Ended
Post by: Mephansteras on April 18, 2016, 07:48:33 pm
Post by: origamiscienceguy on April 22, 2016, 06:48:27 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on April 22, 2016, 07:34:35 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on April 24, 2016, 09:15:05 pm
Post by: Skynet on April 25, 2016, 07:06:23 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on April 25, 2016, 07:10:10 pm
And might want to play a few mafia games first- I recall a few attempted games with completely new people as GMs- they didn't go so well.
Post by: origamiscienceguy on April 25, 2016, 07:41:25 pm
Might want to summarize that so that people will know exactly what it is.I believe he is a second account of somebody here. But I think everybody would like to know who you really are so that they aren't suspicious that you are playing in your own game or something.
And might want to play a few mafia games first- I recall a few attempted games with completely new people as GMs- they didn't go so well.
(My guess is Fillipk. Am I right?)
Post by: Skynet on April 25, 2016, 07:52:59 pm
Skynet's Seduction is...odd. The town is an alliance of pro-Skynet time travellers who have unified together to stop Sarah Connor. However this town is divided between people wanting to kill Sarah and people wanting to 'seduce' Sarah over to the pro-Skynet team. Oh, and Sarah Connor is there, hiding in the crowds as a serial killer. And the fluff text is fairly large. Sometimes, I wonder if this Mafia game is also inadvertently a Terminator fanfic.
The setup is closed, by the way.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 25, 2016, 08:28:34 pm
Post by: hector13 on April 25, 2016, 08:52:45 pm
Might want to summarize that so that people will know exactly what it is.I believe he is a second account of somebody here. But I think everybody would like to know who you really are so that they aren't suspicious that you are playing in your own game or something.
And might want to play a few mafia games first- I recall a few attempted games with completely new people as GMs- they didn't go so well.
(My guess is Fillipk. Am I right?)
What made you think it was Fillipk? :P
Post by: origamiscienceguy on April 25, 2016, 09:51:30 pm
Post by: notquitethere on April 30, 2016, 12:29:31 pm
Post by: fillipk on April 30, 2016, 11:08:25 pm
Post by: flabort on April 30, 2016, 11:10:01 pm
Post by: hector13 on April 30, 2016, 11:12:54 pm
Post by: TheBiggerFish on May 01, 2016, 09:37:04 am
Post by: fillipk on May 07, 2016, 01:41:31 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on May 07, 2016, 02:20:51 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on May 12, 2016, 01:09:15 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on May 31, 2016, 05:45:47 pm
Post by: notquitethere on June 01, 2016, 05:20:24 pm
Post by: griffinpup on June 05, 2016, 10:46:19 pm
Post by: notquitethere on June 10, 2016, 02:40:35 pm
Post by: Tomasque on June 11, 2016, 06:23:31 am
Post by: notquitethere on June 11, 2016, 06:39:17 am
So do I have to submit a game into the queue, then wait until it shuffles all the way to the top before running the game?Technically, but often folk aren't ready to run a game, so you can skip several in the queue. Look who's up next and ask them if they're ready.
Post by: Tomasque on June 17, 2016, 03:05:57 pm
And yeah, I need a replacement for Fallacy for one round.
Post by: Mephansteras on June 17, 2016, 03:26:21 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on June 30, 2016, 10:07:33 am
Could you please put Fallacy's BYOR 2 in the queue?
Post by: Mephansteras on June 30, 2016, 10:45:09 am
Looks like Superhero Mafia is next up in the queue.
Post by: Deus Asmoth on June 30, 2016, 02:05:26 pm
Post by: Tomasque on July 16, 2016, 01:57:34 am
Post by: fillipk on August 01, 2016, 06:29:39 pm
Post by: Deus Asmoth on August 02, 2016, 02:45:33 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on August 03, 2016, 07:11:11 pm
Post by: Deus Asmoth on August 06, 2016, 11:42:45 am
Post by: Teneb on August 06, 2016, 05:32:36 pm
Post by: hector13 on August 06, 2016, 05:38:59 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on August 06, 2016, 11:14:21 pm
How's the queue? I know it's full, but there's only one game in sign ups. I was looking to run another Elements game.
We can always add some more to the queue. Don't know about how much faster we can move things through, though. We've been pretty capped for players for a while now.
Post by: Teneb on August 08, 2016, 08:58:27 am
Add Elements 5 to the queue then, please.How's the queue? I know it's full, but there's only one game in sign ups. I was looking to run another Elements game.
We can always add some more to the queue. Don't know about how much faster we can move things through, though. We've been pretty capped for players for a while now.
Post by: WillowLuman on September 16, 2016, 07:03:42 pm
Though this game is very WIP, needing a lot of setup and system-testing yet, I'm concerned that an opening in my schedule to start it might not coincide with its place on the queue. This is my first venture into this subforum, and so I'm not sure what the conventions are (though I've read the stickies).
Post by: Mephansteras on September 16, 2016, 07:27:59 pm
As for the queue, best thing would be to get in it. When you have time in your schedule you can see where you are in the queue and check with the people ahead of you to see if they'd mind you jumping places. It's not a strict thing, the queue, more of a general organizational mechanism to help us keep the flow of games steady and to keep anyone from monopolizing the board.
Post by: Deus Asmoth on September 20, 2016, 07:05:13 pm
Post by: Skynet on September 24, 2016, 12:27:47 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on September 24, 2016, 12:53:22 pm
Post by: UXLZ on October 06, 2016, 07:17:54 am
Post by: Mephansteras on October 06, 2016, 01:09:53 pm
Post by: pisskop on October 06, 2016, 01:17:07 pm
Much Wait
Many slows
Post by: Mephansteras on October 06, 2016, 01:22:37 pm
Post by: UXLZ on October 07, 2016, 12:50:43 am
Yeah, not enough players to go around.
I'm just waiting for P25. T_T
Though I did replace into the game that needed one, it's a hella messy game.
Post by: TheWetSheep on October 10, 2016, 08:48:51 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on October 10, 2016, 09:03:43 pm
Looks like PokeMafia is next up in the Queue.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on October 12, 2016, 08:36:43 am
Post by: Mephansteras on October 16, 2016, 02:33:37 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on October 16, 2016, 02:48:31 pm
Put Transmutation Mafia into the queue: the queue is long and slow enough that I should get to this in the Summer.
All right then. Next up: notquitethere.
Well, the last time he posted was on September 15. Coincidentally, for Puzzle Temple Panic, a mafia game he's running.
Fairly sure that should be on hiatus now.
Post by: UXLZ on October 17, 2016, 07:38:44 am
Post by: Shakerag on October 17, 2016, 09:17:35 am
Post by: UXLZ on October 21, 2016, 10:15:53 am
I mean, it's a pretty perfect fit.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on October 21, 2016, 10:19:38 am
Power Hungry Mafia is in signups.It's started now.
Post by: Mephansteras on October 21, 2016, 10:28:15 am
Meph, how would you feel about me doing a Warhammer 40,000 flavored version of Paranormal? (Perhaps with a few modifications...)
I mean, it's a pretty perfect fit.
I'd be fine with it.
Post by: UXLZ on October 21, 2016, 10:35:45 am
Post by: Mephansteras on October 21, 2016, 10:39:44 am
Post by: Skynet on October 24, 2016, 08:36:24 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on October 25, 2016, 08:59:02 am
Post by: RattyB on October 28, 2016, 11:10:02 am
Thanks,
RattyB
Edit: It will most likely be different from Beginner's Mafia, but you may want to group them.
Post by: Mephansteras on October 28, 2016, 11:19:19 am
Post by: RattyB on October 28, 2016, 03:38:13 pm
thanks,
RattyB
Post by: Shakerag on October 28, 2016, 04:10:16 pm
Post by: RattyB on October 28, 2016, 06:31:52 pm
Mephansteras I am opening Newb Mafia, a form of beginner's mafia for sign-ups.
Post by: RattyB on October 31, 2016, 04:45:20 pm
Should I lock and start a new thread?
I don't know how to get people to sign-up. :'(
Thanks,
RattyB
Post by: Mephansteras on October 31, 2016, 04:53:59 pm
2) Reply to your thread letting people know that you've gotten it approved as THE next beginner's thread, people may be scared off by the discussion about it that is in there so far.
3) Post in the New Player's thread letting people know that your game is in sign-ups and post a link to it.
Overall, you want people to know that your game is legit and will happen and you want to make it easy for them to find it.
Post by: hector13 on October 31, 2016, 04:56:07 pm
You might want to get some names on the replacement list, too, as I required four in BM LX.
Post by: RattyB on November 01, 2016, 03:35:14 pm
Thanks so much!
RattyB
Post by: FallacyofUrist on November 11, 2016, 09:37:05 pm
Next up is Reverse Mafia.
Post by: TheBiggerFish on November 11, 2016, 10:55:40 pm
Post by: hector13 on November 12, 2016, 09:11:18 am
Everyone is a Jester, basically.
Post by: TheWetSheep on November 19, 2016, 11:38:29 am
I could set up my super-quick 5-player nightless mafia if people want.
Post by: Tomasque on November 19, 2016, 02:27:47 pm
So... any games happening soon? Mind-Reading Mafia seems kinda dead (4 days and no posts) and I have no idea what's going on with Marathon Mafia.Perfect. Everything is going according to plan.
I could set up my super-quick 5-player nightless mafia if people want.I'd love to join, but I'm not sure if the queue system we have would allow for it... does anyone know more about that?
Post by: pisskop on November 19, 2016, 02:33:11 pm
Post by: Tomasque on November 20, 2016, 12:57:31 am
Post by: TheWetSheep on November 20, 2016, 07:21:51 am
Post by: Tomasque on November 20, 2016, 10:12:54 am
Post by: 4maskwolf on December 09, 2016, 02:54:16 am
Post by: Tomasque on December 29, 2016, 08:33:59 pm
Also, modding mafia is fun! I can't wait to run another game! :)
Post by: hector13 on December 29, 2016, 08:36:34 pm
Post by: Tomasque on December 29, 2016, 09:14:41 pm
You haven't said who won MM yetI know. I'll do that just as soon as I return from the movie.
Post by: Mephansteras on December 30, 2016, 02:08:42 am
Post by: FallacyofUrist on December 30, 2016, 01:51:30 pm
Post by: origamiscienceguy on January 09, 2017, 03:08:42 pm
Please Put phantom mafia in the queue.
And if anybody wants to be spoil-spec and help me finalize the design, you can let me know.
Post by: hector13 on January 09, 2017, 05:23:29 pm
Not even as penance for ruining the last day.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 09, 2017, 06:35:49 pm
And if anybody wants to be spoil-spec and help me finalize the design, you can let me know.
I helped you with local emergency mafia(I think), and I'm up for helping you here. And hopefully I'll be a bit more helpful this time, if you'll have me.
Post by: Tomasque on January 09, 2017, 10:02:32 pm
I have designed a new bastard game with hidden mechanics. I have a general idea of how it works, but haven't worked out all the kinks yet. But looking at the queue, it seems I have a long time to figure it out :Pooh! That sounds good! Lemme try.
Please Put phantom mafia in the queue.
And if anybody wants to be spoil-spec and help me finalize the design, you can let me know.
Also, speaking of the queue, could you put "Mafia Marathon 2" on it? Unless there's a limit on how many games of the same person can be on the queue, of course...
Post by: Mephansteras on January 09, 2017, 10:09:11 pm
If you feel you have more ideas than would be fair to put into the queue, we can always stick stuff down into the Planned Games section and move them up when we're through a bit more.
Post by: Tomasque on January 09, 2017, 10:32:27 pm
If you feel you have more ideas than would be fair to put into the queue, we can always stick stuff down into the Planned Games section and move them up when we're through a bit more.Thanks! I'll do that if I finish more before Exquisite Cops runs (though I doubt I'll be that quick).
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 09, 2017, 10:57:26 pm
Mafia Marathon 2Yes. 22/23rds of my Yes. Which is to say: please don't repeat the message system in round 4 and I'll jump on this.
Post by: hector13 on January 09, 2017, 11:12:36 pm
Mafia Marathon 2Yes. 22/23rds of my Yes. Which is to say: please don't repeat the message system in round 4 and I'll jump on this.
Stealing all the fun from newer folks :p awful.
You can represent the old crew.
Post by: Tomasque on January 09, 2017, 11:22:39 pm
Stealing all the fun from newer folks :p awful.Don't worry, there'll be more players this time.
You can represent the old crew.
Post by: hector13 on January 09, 2017, 11:23:21 pm
Sign me up.They'll be more players this time.Mafia Marathon 2Yes. 22/23rds of my Yes. Which is to say: please don't repeat the message system in round 4 and I'll jump on this.
Stealing all the fun from newer folks :p awful.
You can represent the old crew.
Post by: Tomasque on January 09, 2017, 11:26:23 pm
Oh, and thanks for pre-joining.
Post by: fillipk on January 16, 2017, 09:47:21 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on January 17, 2017, 12:44:50 am
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 17, 2017, 11:03:50 am
Somebody should run something. Like Wiretap Mafia, the next game in the queue.
Post by: pisskop on January 17, 2017, 12:41:42 pm
Post by: hector13 on January 17, 2017, 12:43:59 pm
Post by: TheBiggerFish on January 18, 2017, 02:02:51 pm
You replied before I fixed the typo! Now my spelling mistake will be immortalized for all of history :'(In in in in in in in in in in in in in in in. And however many more ins I need.
Oh, and thanks for pre-joining.
Post by: Tomasque on January 18, 2017, 03:57:08 pm
You only need 1 to make my day.You replied before I fixed the typo! Now my spelling mistake will be immortalized for all of history :'(In in in in in in in in in in in in in in in. And however many more ins I need.
Oh, and thanks for pre-joining.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 18, 2017, 07:26:26 pm
I'm feeling rather eager to run the next Fallacy's BYOR...
It might be a good idea to bump it down the queue a bit.
Also: Please put Roll to Mafia on the Planned section.
Post by: Mephansteras on January 18, 2017, 07:47:18 pm
Ok, that puts Paranormal 25 up at the top of the list.
What is the interest level for that? Should I put it up in sign-ups now or do we want to wait a week or two?
Post by: 4maskwolf on January 18, 2017, 07:55:44 pm
Post by: hector13 on January 18, 2017, 11:45:46 pm
I'd be in on that one.
Post by: fillipk on January 22, 2017, 12:28:56 am
I'd like to add Edit Mafia to the queue.
Edited by Fillipk
Post by: Tomasque on January 22, 2017, 12:35:26 am
I'd like to add Edit Mafia to the queue.Woah, a mafia game where you're supposed edit? That sounds so cool!
Edited by Fillipk
Post by: Mephansteras on January 22, 2017, 12:35:43 am
Post by: fillipk on January 22, 2017, 04:17:37 am
yeah I through it in to mind reading mafia as a distraction but it gave me some ideas for an actual edit game.I'd like to add Edit Mafia to the queue.Woah, a mafia game where you're supposed edit? That sounds so cool!
Edited by Fillipk
Post by: Mephansteras on January 24, 2017, 03:48:54 pm
Post by: doll on January 30, 2017, 06:29:52 pm
It's a long way off ready, plus I'd like to have more experience moderating games before I tackle something as administration heavy as it is likely to be, but it's getting there.
Post by: pisskop on January 30, 2017, 06:32:36 pm
We need a replacement for TheWetSheep, who failed to pick up their Role PM. Game is 6p 1week dayphase, open mountainous setup with reversed wincons.
Post by: doll on January 31, 2017, 06:03:12 am
I could replace in right now if you're desperate.
Post by: pisskop on January 31, 2017, 07:40:23 am
dont know why id have to be desperate to accept a player who has thus far seemes competent i. the queue?
Post by: pisskop on February 03, 2017, 07:28:35 am
Post by: webadict on February 03, 2017, 03:08:34 pm
Post by: Shakerag on February 03, 2017, 03:28:22 pm
Uh... Interest check on a Web BYOR? I can put it in the queue.My body is always ready.
Post by: webadict on February 03, 2017, 03:41:51 pm
I'm already prepared for your role. If I don't have a page of text for you, I've failed.Uh... Interest check on a Web BYOR? I can put it in the queue.My body is always ready.
Post by: doll on February 03, 2017, 03:47:04 pm
Post by: webadict on February 03, 2017, 03:54:11 pm
The BYOR 15 role that makes webadict uncomfortable?(Auto) Balanced?: You have 72 abilities.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 03, 2017, 03:56:57 pm
Textless?
Maybe we can be BYOR modding rivals?
Whatever.
Pretty please?
A webadict BYOR. Count me in once you start it.
~~~
Ninja:
(Auto/Day) Balanced.: All of your abilities other than this one are 1-shots and have their effects hidden. Each day, you may choose one of your abilities to learn the effect of.The BYOR 15 role that makes webadict uncomfortable?(Auto) Balanced?: You have 72 abilities.
Post by: Shakerag on February 03, 2017, 04:03:50 pm
I'm feeling a little partial to The BYOR 15 Role That Will Make Mafia Great Again. Got to stay hip and with the times and all that.I'm already prepared for your role. If I don't have a page of text for you, I've failed.Uh... Interest check on a Web BYOR? I can put it in the queue.My body is always ready.
Post by: Deus Asmoth on February 03, 2017, 05:09:26 pm
Post by: TheDarkStar on February 03, 2017, 05:19:50 pm
Post by: Shakerag on February 03, 2017, 05:36:04 pm
I'm thinking about something along the lines of "The BYOR 15 role that replaces investigation results with alternate facts".I like it. You can be my chief of staff.
Post by: fillipk on February 03, 2017, 06:16:18 pm
I'm thinking about something along the lines of "The BYOR 15 role that replaces investigation results with alternate facts".I'd prefer "The BYOR15 role that can control other people votes if it puts them in all caps."
Post by: webadict on February 03, 2017, 06:43:50 pm
Post by: Jack A T on February 03, 2017, 09:32:11 pm
Post by: TolyK on February 04, 2017, 05:42:46 am
Post by: Persus13 on February 04, 2017, 08:21:01 am
I'll probably just submit The BYOR 15 Role Which Is the Equal But Opposite of Shakerag's to see what happens.I've submitted the BYOR Role that Nerfs Shakerag's Role before. Then Shakerag got lynched D1.
Post by: webadict on February 04, 2017, 08:40:46 am
Worked pretty well then.I'll probably just submit The BYOR 15 Role Which Is the Equal But Opposite of Shakerag's to see what happens.I've submitted the BYOR Role that Nerfs Shakerag's Role before. Then Shakerag got lynched D1.
Post by: TolyK on February 04, 2017, 10:30:34 am
Post by: webadict on February 05, 2017, 10:39:21 pm
Post by: Elephant Parade on February 06, 2017, 12:28:00 am
Post by: webadict on February 06, 2017, 10:23:49 am
I've never been in a webadict BYOR before, so I'd sure like to join this one. I have role names I've been saving for two years.Do you want me to start planning now? The game is gonna start in like a month, and the earlier I plan, the better the roles will be.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 06, 2017, 10:30:01 am
Post by: webadict on February 06, 2017, 10:59:21 am
What, could we send our role names in advance?Sure. The only stipulation I ask is that you also submit a theme.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 06, 2017, 11:02:21 am
A theme. For the game as a whole, or for our role in particular?What, could we send our role names in advance?Sure. The only stipulation I ask is that you also submit a theme.
Post by: webadict on February 06, 2017, 11:19:13 am
Either? Both? Mostly for your role or perhaps a part of it. You could, for instance, submit the role Webadict with the theme of Historically Inaccurate Lightsaber Duels, and I would apply that theme to somewhere in the game.A theme. For the game as a whole, or for our role in particular?What, could we send our role names in advance?Sure. The only stipulation I ask is that you also submit a theme.
Post by: Shakerag on February 06, 2017, 11:35:08 am
Post by: webadict on February 06, 2017, 11:38:50 am
Game is still in queue and I'm already causing webadict distress. This is going to be fabulous!You're not going to like the ADDITIONAL theme I pick.
Post by: Shakerag on February 06, 2017, 11:50:41 am
Well, of course. What else would I expect?Game is still in queue and I'm already causing webadict distress. This is going to be fabulous!You're not going to like the ADDITIONAL theme I pick.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 06, 2017, 05:43:03 pm
I'll get my next BYOR set up if desired now.
Edit: There's only one active mafia, so I'll go ahead and do that. Fallacy's BYOR 2 in signups.
Post by: pisskop on February 06, 2017, 05:45:25 pm
Welp. Reverse Mafia finished. Shortest mafia everThis.
The playerlist was pretty awesome though. Thanks, you guys!
Post by: Mephansteras on February 07, 2017, 07:06:30 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on February 07, 2017, 09:03:08 pm
I want in.
Post by: Imic on February 16, 2017, 04:01:42 am
How this will work, is that the players will get given their roles as normal, but instead of just yelling at each other, the players will have to take their role's ready made personalities into account, and must roleplay as that character, while somehow making sure no - one notices.
D'yer like it?
Post by: doll on February 16, 2017, 04:07:58 am
Do you have any way to actually enforce the roleplaying?
Post by: Imic on February 16, 2017, 04:19:43 am
Post by: Imic on February 16, 2017, 07:27:10 am
Baker:
Ordinary townie. Dislikes swords, is a bit grumpy.
Spie:
Scum. Uses the baker as a cover.
Scum could use townie personalities as cover, or just have their own.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 16, 2017, 11:43:17 am
SpieAGH AGH AGH
~~~
But anyways. Neat idea. Plenty of room to incorporate flavor.
Do note we should take this to the setup discussion thread if you want to discuss this further.
Post by: Imic on February 16, 2017, 02:45:51 pm
Good idea. I'll call a mover's van!SpieAGH AGH AGH
~~~
But anyways. Neat idea. Plenty of room to incorporate flavor.
Do note we should take this to the setup discussion thread if you want to discuss this further.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on March 01, 2017, 07:37:25 pm
Post by: webadict on March 01, 2017, 10:03:51 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 01, 2017, 10:06:17 pm
Which means that Tomasque is up with "Exquisite Cops (and Robbers)".
Post by: Tomasque on March 01, 2017, 11:19:34 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on March 02, 2017, 10:02:33 am
I guess I'll run that, then. I'm pretty excited :)As am I...
Post by: doll on March 04, 2017, 10:43:03 am
Broken Hearts I is ready for the queue.
Post by: 4maskwolf on March 06, 2017, 02:27:53 am
Given the nature of Tomasque games, and especially the current one which has long periods of downtime, should we start up another game that has a more traditional format from the queue simultaneously?
Post by: doll on March 06, 2017, 03:05:25 am
Having an actual BM or a "B"M running might be a good idea.
Post by: 4maskwolf on March 06, 2017, 03:08:22 am
What number are we on for those, anyway?
Edit: I answered my own question: NSBM 5 was the last one run, over two years ago.
Post by: doll on March 06, 2017, 04:12:00 am
Personally, I'd like to get in an open game before I get into a closed game to get a better look at the major flaws in my daygame without having to think about solving for mechanical doubt, so I for one would play a BM of either stripe (and I'd be able to actually play now, since my situation has stabilized).
Post by: webadict on March 06, 2017, 10:17:56 pm
Put Sprng [Of] Hate into the Queue.
If you're interested in writing flavor text, let me know. I can even find something for you to write if you'd like to play, though much less than you'd probably like.
Post by: Tiruin on March 07, 2017, 11:19:02 pm
From the wreckage of a meteor hitting the planet, there rises a new threat. A game dedicated to flavor text, bastard mechanics, multiple endings, and ultimately, only one way for everyone to win. The seeds of doubt are planted, but within our hearts, our programming, and our folded wings lies the last hopes for a happy ending.Reminds me of Vector's work. Miss that ossum dude. :O
Put Sprng [Of] Hate into the Queue.
If you're interested in writing flavor text, let me know. I can even find something for you to write if you'd like to play, though much less than you'd probably like.
But I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS TO HAPPEN. I WILL HATE YOU ALL, EQUALLY, and thus y'all will be my closest FRIENDS. :P
Post by: webadict on March 08, 2017, 07:55:11 am
Yes, I shall use some of the mistakes made last time to improve the setup. There were several hints that many people overlooked, as well as a LOT of hidden mechanics and conditionals. Also, technically, someone should've been dead on Day 1 for doing something they shouldn't've, which was my fault due to IRL issues.From the wreckage of a meteor hitting the planet, there rises a new threat. A game dedicated to flavor text, bastard mechanics, multiple endings, and ultimately, only one way for everyone to win. The seeds of doubt are planted, but within our hearts, our programming, and our folded wings lies the last hopes for a happy ending.Reminds me of Vector's work. Miss that ossum dude. :O
Put Sprng [Of] Hate into the Queue.
If you're interested in writing flavor text, let me know. I can even find something for you to write if you'd like to play, though much less than you'd probably like.
But I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS TO HAPPEN. I WILL HATE YOU ALL, EQUALLY, and thus y'all will be my closest FRIENDS. :P
There will be plenty of these still, but perhaps this will be made clearer at the start of the game. Not necessarily how to achieve these, but a bit more clues.
And Robosaurus, Roar of the Celestial Bloom will of course make a come back. Who else but the most famous of Robot Angels? (No one ever asked about him!)
Post by: Solifuge on March 12, 2017, 02:13:47 am
If you're interested in writing flavor text, let me know. I can even find something for you to write if you'd like to play, though much less than you'd probably like.
Hmm!
I'm kind of actually maybe in a mood for another weird bastardy narrative game? But I'm not sure I can properly commit to one because Reasons. Depending on the volume of flavor text you need, I might be able to contribute that way. Note: my writing is kind of artless, but I do my best.
I'll keep my eyes out. Supposing this is something that'd be coming up in the next few months?
Post by: webadict on March 12, 2017, 06:24:58 pm
Based on the rate of how fast games go, yeah, pretty much. There are a few different types of flavortext: Role flavor, lynch flavor, and the opening flavor. But, really, it's just if you want to. Otherwise, I'm slowly plowing my way through it. There's a lot to write at the beginning.If you're interested in writing flavor text, let me know. I can even find something for you to write if you'd like to play, though much less than you'd probably like.
Hmm!
I'm kind of actually maybe in a mood for another weird bastardy narrative game? But I'm not sure I can properly commit to one because Reasons. Depending on the volume of flavor text you need, I might be able to contribute that way. Note: my writing is kind of artless, but I do my best.
I'll keep my eyes out. Supposing this is something that'd be coming up in the next few months?
Post by: TheBiggerFish on March 12, 2017, 10:41:19 pm
Preemptive inning intensifies
Post by: webadict on March 13, 2017, 01:23:55 pm
Also, you only have to write what you want. And if you don't want to play, there's a whole plethora (+extras!) for you to choose from. I am literally planned for no one to write anything. But, I know you probably write better than i do, so feel free to help!If you're interested in writing flavor text, let me know. I can even find something for you to write if you'd like to play, though much less than you'd probably like.
Hmm!
I'm kind of actually maybe in a mood for another weird bastardy narrative game? But I'm not sure I can properly commit to one because Reasons. Depending on the volume of flavor text you need, I might be able to contribute that way. Note: my writing is kind of artless, but I do my best.
I'll keep my eyes out. Supposing this is something that'd be coming up in the next few months?
Post by: Tomasque on March 19, 2017, 11:27:46 am
Post by: Mephansteras on March 19, 2017, 11:58:46 am
I might not have time to run Mafia Marathon 2 when it reaches the top of the list. What are my options if that happens?
You can always ask it to be bumped down a few spots, or to the bottom, or it can go into the planned games section and you can add it to the back of the queue when you're ready.
Post by: Tomasque on March 19, 2017, 12:24:36 pm
Okay, thanks.I might not have time to run Mafia Marathon 2 when it reaches the top of the list. What are my options if that happens?
You can always ask it to be bumped down a few spots, or to the bottom, or it can go into the planned games section and you can add it to the back of the queue when you're ready.
Post by: Teneb on March 26, 2017, 01:51:15 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 26, 2017, 04:11:43 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on April 11, 2017, 09:18:39 pm
I'm sorry for my lack of updating as-of-late. The reason behind it is that I had a lot of things to do, and so I kept putting it off. Now, I have an even bigger thing to do, and it'll be a while before I can finish it. Therefore, I've decided to stop running this game. I considered putting it on a hiatus, but I don't think I'll have the interest in running it once I get back. To be honest, I liked this idea on paper, but what I designed it to be like didn't translate well into the real game. Mistakes happen, and I guess that it's just a problem I'll have to keep in mind for MM 2.Oh, sorrow. For the record, this is referencing Exquisite Cops and Robbers.
Next up is Time Paradox Mafia.
Post by: Hapah on April 11, 2017, 11:19:47 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on April 13, 2017, 10:21:05 am
~~~
Roll to Mafia would be better named as Reality Game Show Mafia.
Because... well, I saw an idea that Jack A T posted earlier. Can't find it now, though. Thanks to him, though.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 13, 2017, 11:29:25 am
Deus Asmoth should be running it... and I have no idea what the rules are.
~~~
Roll to Mafia would be better named as Reality Game Show Mafia.
Because... well, I saw an idea that Jack A T posted earlier. Can't find it now, though. Thanks to him, though.
You'd like me to rename it, then?
Post by: FallacyofUrist on April 13, 2017, 06:53:50 pm
Yes, please. Thanks.Deus Asmoth should be running it... and I have no idea what the rules are.
~~~
Roll to Mafia would be better named as Reality Game Show Mafia.
Because... well, I saw an idea that Jack A T posted earlier. Can't find it now, though. Thanks to him, though.
You'd like me to rename it, then?
Post by: TheBiggerFish on April 14, 2017, 12:07:57 pm
Post by: doll on April 15, 2017, 11:15:37 am
Heeeeey guys, does anyone want to in for the Mafia Championship?I thought you did
Post by: webadict on April 15, 2017, 10:13:56 pm
Post by: doll on April 15, 2017, 11:53:55 pm
Deus Asmoth
Teneb
4maskwolf
NQT
OSG
Tomasque
fillipk
webadict
meph
doll
webadict
O. Wilde
Plus the beginners that a lot of people are supposed to have started.
With the fact that all of 4 players are engaged in games right now, it's probably viable to go for two new games at the same time.
Though one of those could and should be the BM. Depending on how willing people are to play multiple games at once and how many people actually play games, it might be possible to get two games and the BM going (particularly if the BM is full of actually new players with just ICs from the experienced group).
Post by: mastahcheese on April 16, 2017, 02:36:18 am
Post by: doll on April 16, 2017, 04:56:02 am
Also, have you noticed, that there are literally no games running, other than one with all of four players and zero posts?
Having someone actually, you know, follow through on running a game would be a nice change of pace, for one thing.
If you check the list I've posted, the only recently active players in the list I posted (who haven't said that they're probably busy with other stuff irl) are 4mask and OSG. If either of them got their shit together and actually, you know, put a game into signups when we've had the last leg of a very small and inactive game going for more than half a week as the entire activity of the forum (and a lot of players floating about the banter etc. threads - players, and not moderators, being an abundant resource). Now, I can understand their positions; 4mask has been busy with games in the forum, and OSG had no easy way of knowing about the gap left by exquisite cops ending. However, we're a lot of players up, and a lot of games down. Interest only lasts so long without activity - we need to generate activity while we still have players to be interested (for instance, I rather suspect that many of our potential BM recruits have moved on for lack of activity, since there has been a BM 'in the works' since October and it still hasn't gotten running).
Post by: origamiscienceguy on April 16, 2017, 05:52:54 am
Post by: doll on April 16, 2017, 07:33:57 am
Post by: Jack A T on April 16, 2017, 10:08:00 am
Post by: Mephansteras on April 16, 2017, 12:38:44 pm
I do agree that a BM should get going soon, but we can have a non-bm go into sign-ups as well.
If Deus Asmoth wants to start his that's fine. Also ok with a Vengeful first if DA isn't ready to start one right now.
Post by: TheDarkStar on April 16, 2017, 07:44:43 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on April 21, 2017, 12:46:17 pm
Maybe do that run-through thing you were talking about now?
Please put Odd Mafia/FBYOR 3 on the queue(when it gets there, I'll see if Odd Mafia is finished with development, if it is, Tomasque and I will run it, if it isn't, I'll run FBYOR 3).
Post by: Jack A T on April 21, 2017, 01:05:37 pm
Post by: Deus Asmoth on April 23, 2017, 03:17:15 am
Post by: Mephansteras on April 24, 2017, 01:25:57 pm
And, yeah, I think I'll start the rapid run-through system next. So if Teneb isn't available for Elements 5 when we're ready for another game I'll just go down the list until someone is ready and willing to run their game.
Post by: origamiscienceguy on April 24, 2017, 08:30:06 pm
Post by: Shakerag on May 17, 2017, 12:17:07 am
Post by: Jack A T on May 23, 2017, 01:36:04 am
Post by: Mephansteras on May 23, 2017, 02:27:14 pm
Since we have 1 game in signups that seems static and nothing else going on, I'm thinking we should kick-start stuff a bit.
Let's try a vote:
Mods who are able to start up a game in the queue in the next week or so, speak up.
Anyone who wants to play a particular game now speak up as to what games on the queue you'd join in on. (Now as in, starting in the next week or so).
I will keep this post updated with results until we have a decision on what to start next.
To start this off, I would be willing and able to start the next Supernatural Mafia in the a week or so.
Games up for vote
- Supernatural 9
- BYOR 0
- Phantom Mafia
- Sprng [Of] Hate
Actual votes will be counted in a bit. I'd like to hear more from some of the mods so we know what can be voted on.
Post by: webadict on May 23, 2017, 02:47:19 pm
Post by: TheDarkStar on May 23, 2017, 02:47:59 pm
Supernatural 9
BYOR 0
Sprng [of] Hate
Maybe Operation Griffin, depending on what it's about.
Post by: origamiscienceguy on May 23, 2017, 02:48:06 pm
It is a bastard game with hidden mechanics that players need to discover if they want to win. Similar to Local Emergency Mafia.
Post by: hector13 on May 23, 2017, 03:47:34 pm
Not so sure about the rest since I don't know what they're all about and can't be arsed looking for that info heh.
Post by: TolyK on May 23, 2017, 04:06:56 pm
- BYOR 0
- Sprng-whatevah (wuba's other game), but I'd prefer the BYOR
Play in about 4-6 months:
- nearly anything? :P
Also, Meph, you might want to change the title to be eye-catching and add some temporary notice to the OP.
That way we might get more input from folks who might miss it otherwise. Added a comment in the other thread.
Post by: Lenglon on May 23, 2017, 04:15:31 pm
BYOR 0
Spring of Hate
in general:
I like bastardy games.
Note: I don't know what several other contenders are.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on May 23, 2017, 04:41:40 pm
After my move, I can run FBYOR3(now with less splitting people in two and the possibility of a role veto!), and after some more development, Reality Game Show Mafia.
After my move, I would love to play Mafia Marathon 2. Phantom Mafia would also be nice, but I helped develop that so I'm spoiled.
Post by: webadict on May 23, 2017, 05:17:59 pm
Right now:Sprng [Of] Hate is the sequel to Smstr W/ Love, a semi-bastard flavorful game, in which you play a school boy/girl/sandwich, learn about magic, demons, and angels, and possibly save the galaxy while you're at it. The game involves multiple wincons and endings, deciphering hints and clues to achieve this, and dealing with your homeroom teacher, Mr. Badict, in snarky banter. Overall, the game is a lighthearted flavorful bastard game with dramatic twists and turns the entire family will love, assuming you love to kill and lynch them.
BYOR 0
in general:
I like bastardy games.
Note: I don't know what Spring Hate and several other contenders are.
Written and directed by Webley Alduous.
Rated PG-13.
Post by: Lenglon on May 23, 2017, 06:03:50 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on May 23, 2017, 10:03:01 pm
It is power role heavy and only town roles are generally known. Scum/3rd party roles can and will change between games and new ones can arrive without notice.
It has been notable in the past for having a serial killer win without ever killing anyone.
Post by: Shakerag on May 23, 2017, 11:20:26 pm
Post by: flabort on May 24, 2017, 12:36:53 am
Well, I think it wouldn't hurt if Supernatural or BYOR 0 were the game that started and I joined.
Post by: TheBiggerFish on May 24, 2017, 08:02:13 am
Post by: origamiscienceguy on May 24, 2017, 08:09:54 am
Post by: webadict on May 24, 2017, 08:16:21 am
Post by: Mephansteras on May 24, 2017, 11:03:44 am
EDIT: I'll keep voting up for a bit so we can decide what goes after one of the two games in sign-ups finishes.
Post by: 4maskwolf on May 27, 2017, 03:14:36 am
Post by: doll on May 28, 2017, 02:06:59 am
Broken Hearts should be removed from the queue (it won't be running, or at least I won't be administrating it if anyone does run it).
Post by: Teneb on June 20, 2017, 08:26:23 pm
Post by: Tomasque on June 25, 2017, 03:19:01 pm
Post by: hector13 on June 25, 2017, 03:40:40 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on June 25, 2017, 03:48:08 pm
Post by: Tomasque on June 26, 2017, 12:03:09 pm
Also, why do people replace out of these games so early? Maybe we could change their rules/format to accommodate people (like if it was a timezones problem, the days could be made longer or something)?
Post by: hector13 on June 26, 2017, 12:45:22 pm
I think part of the issue is we usually have a few vets in the game, and they tend to be a bit... unaccommodating to lack of experience.
Post by: origamiscienceguy on June 26, 2017, 12:49:08 pm
Post by: Persus13 on June 26, 2017, 02:27:27 pm
what if the ICs were not players, but similar to the Scum IC in that they just pop in from time to time with bits of wisdom?This is basically what IC's do when they are dead, and usually they don't pop in because it interferes with what's going on. Another reason the ICs actually play is so people can get an idea of what "normal" play is.
Post by: Tomasque on June 26, 2017, 03:31:55 pm
I think part of the issue is we usually have a few vets in the game, and they tend to be a bit... unaccommodating to lack of experience....wouldn't exist, and because they'd be much more invested in the game.
Also, am I allowed to start a thread to see who's interested?
Post by: hector13 on June 26, 2017, 03:57:08 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on June 26, 2017, 04:02:11 pm
Perhaps the issue is the games are too big? Waiting for 7 new players to pop along all at once is the problem.
That's part of the reason we've talked about moving to regular games that happen to be newbie friendly. Much easier to get 8 people to sign up quickly for, say, a Paranormal then it is a beginner's game.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on July 12, 2017, 03:03:07 pm
Time to vote for another game!
I'm available to run FBYOR 3, now with less brokenness, a theme other than Basic, and more than 9 players!
I would prefer to run Odd Mafia instead, but Tomasque and I haven't finished developing that.
Post by: Mephansteras on July 12, 2017, 03:29:04 pm
Post by: origamiscienceguy on July 12, 2017, 04:11:20 pm
Post by: TolyK on July 12, 2017, 05:36:36 pm
We also have newbies waiting, right?
Post by: Tiruin on July 12, 2017, 05:45:51 pm
I'm available to run FBYOR 3, now with less brokenness, a theme other than Basic, and more than 9 players!When you end up running it, please define what the theme actually entails :P Because my inexperienced and unexposed mind really was shocked to see...a very complex roleset than what is expected when you think of 'Basic'.
I would prefer to run Odd Mafia instead, but Tomasque and I haven't finished developing that.
But I'll love playing any of these 3 proposed games, and with a lot less unneeded stress and sensitivity! (Still sorry about BYOR 0 and my emotional reactions which weren't particularly sportsmanly too x.x)
Post by: FallacyofUrist on July 12, 2017, 06:36:01 pm
Post by: Teneb on July 12, 2017, 10:41:45 pm
Post by: flabort on July 13, 2017, 10:11:49 am
Though I'd love a crazy BYOR again, I think we need to change the format at least one before the next one, Flabort.You meant Fallacy, right? Here I am, wondering what you mean, and then I see Fallacy's thing, and realize you are thinking of FHPBYOR, when Fallacy was saying just FBYOR.
We also have newbies waiting, right?
Post by: TolyK on July 13, 2017, 11:44:26 am
I might go for KotM though. I need to read up beforehand a bit though, huh...
Post by: RoseHeart on July 15, 2017, 05:00:44 pm
Post by: Teneb on July 16, 2017, 07:32:23 pm
Post by: RoseHeart on July 17, 2017, 12:46:16 pm
I would like to be a player in the next Paranormal Mafia game.
I'm told the format is usually when a game is posted people just kind of join in. I'm going to ask that someone tell me when Paranormal Mafia starts. I do not come here often it's just not a place I frequent. But I'm a huge John Carpenter fan.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on July 18, 2017, 03:31:13 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on July 18, 2017, 03:36:12 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on July 18, 2017, 05:07:54 pm
Quote from: Current Votecount
0 - FBYOR 3(FallacyofUrist, a BYOR much like the previous two, but with a new Theme and hence a new twist):This might make things a little easier.
1 - Supernatural(Mephensteras, a long-running semi-closed setup flavored with a gritty fantasy setting): Teneb
1 - Operation Griffin(4maskwolf, ???, still needs mod confirmation of possibility of running): TheDarkStar
Post by: Teneb on July 18, 2017, 09:52:47 pm
Considering I'm keen on coming back to the game, I'd be up for any one of the three (just one, I know how busy I will eventually get). If I had to choose... Supernatural would be the one.Quote from: Votecount0 - FBYOR 3(FallacyofUrist, a BYOR much like the previous two, but with a new Theme and hence a new twist):This might make things a little easier.
0 - Supernatural(Mephensteras, a long-running semi-closed setup flavored with a gritty fantasy setting):
0 - Operation Griffin(4maskwolf, ???, still needs mod confirmation of possibility of running):
Post by: TheDarkStar on July 18, 2017, 11:26:53 pm
Quote from: Votecount
0 - FBYOR 3(FallacyofUrist, a BYOR much like the previous two, but with a new Theme and hence a new twist):
1 - Supernatural(Mephensteras, a long-running semi-closed setup flavored with a gritty fantasy setting):
1 - Operation Griffin(4maskwolf, ???, still needs mod confirmation of possibility of running):
Votes so far (including mine).
Post by: FallacyofUrist on July 21, 2017, 09:05:10 am
I get the feeling this one's [Time Paradox Mafia] dead folks. Deus Asmoth hasn't been on in a month.Welp.
Post by: RoseHeart on August 09, 2017, 12:59:47 pm
If the waitlist is more than a couple weeks let me know.
Title:
The Avengers: Skrull Invasion
(roseheart's premier mafia on bay 12, visible roles with randomly assigned scum)
Post by: FallacyofUrist on August 18, 2017, 08:15:38 am
What now? FBYOR 3? Supernatural? Something else? Suppose it's time to vote.
Post by: Teneb on August 20, 2017, 11:44:46 am
Time Paradox Mafia is complete.Dunno. But I'd love some people to get KOTM going again.
What now? FBYOR 3? Supernatural? Something else? Suppose it's time to vote.
Post by: Persus13 on August 20, 2017, 01:35:02 pm
Post by: Teneb on August 20, 2017, 11:24:07 pm
How many do you need?2
Post by: FallacyofUrist on August 21, 2017, 01:42:15 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on August 21, 2017, 03:49:32 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on August 21, 2017, 07:34:47 pm
Post by: TheDarkStar on August 21, 2017, 11:11:34 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on September 06, 2017, 05:51:57 pm
Since Supernatural has gotten a few votes and nothing else is really being floated right now, I suppose I will put that into signups in the next day or two.
Post by: hector13 on September 11, 2017, 09:05:52 pm
[insert offensive joke about not being able to count]
Post by: AbstractTraitorHero on September 11, 2017, 10:11:44 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on September 11, 2017, 11:58:02 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on September 18, 2017, 10:36:27 am
In any case, Supernatural 9 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=167537.0) is now in sign-ups!
Post by: Mephansteras on October 11, 2017, 07:13:34 pm
We should start discussing the next game to have and get it up into signups.
Post by: Tiruin on October 11, 2017, 07:18:51 pm
We should start discussing the next game to have and get it up into signups.Paranormal or something else? I wouldn't mind seeing/playing in another game of yours. All that's needed is people.
Post by: Shakerag on October 12, 2017, 08:54:34 am
Post by: FallacyofUrist on October 12, 2017, 06:55:57 pm
Post by: hector13 on October 12, 2017, 07:06:59 pm
Post by: notquitethere on October 13, 2017, 09:04:50 am
Post by: FallacyofUrist on October 16, 2017, 03:52:44 pm
Or I could run FBYOR 3(now without freaking In Again)!
Post by: Mephansteras on October 16, 2017, 03:55:49 pm
Vote, people, let's get the ball rolling on one of them!
Post by: notquitethere on October 18, 2017, 03:44:49 am
Post by: FallacyofUrist on November 28, 2017, 10:48:29 am
Now for the next game, I'm still up for running FBYOR 3. Now without freaking In Again, which will not happen again. Not in this game, at least, and not ever without adjustments.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on December 05, 2017, 08:10:05 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on December 05, 2017, 08:38:49 pm
If nobody objects(before tomorrow), I'm going to act unilaterally like notquitethere did and put a game of mafia into signups.
Sounds fine to me.
Post by: notquitethere on December 06, 2017, 04:20:23 am
Post by: origamiscienceguy on December 07, 2017, 12:26:28 pm
Post by: Imic on January 04, 2018, 09:20:10 am
hype
Post by: GigaGiant on January 04, 2018, 12:45:24 pm
Regarding Fallacy's BYOR:Same :D
hype
Post by: RoseHeart on February 04, 2018, 06:56:12 am
Post by: FallacyofUrist on May 02, 2018, 11:20:25 am
Oh, and Mafiakart Racing(by webadict) isn't listed in the Active games.
Post by: Mephansteras on May 02, 2018, 12:11:59 pm
If people want to add new stuff to the lists, that's fine too.
And, sorry, I've added Mafiakart now.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on May 02, 2018, 01:46:12 pm
Reality Game Show Mafia should be taken off the planned games list. I don't think I'm going to be working on that for a while, if at all.
Fallacy's BYOR 4 should be put on the planned games list, though. I really like running BYORs. Even if they inevitably get into really weird territory due to my habit of getting creative with role design.
Post by: Tomasque on May 02, 2018, 02:10:05 pm
Post by: Tomasque on May 02, 2018, 02:13:06 pm
For me: Odd Mafia(collaboration between me and Tomasque) should probably be taken off the queue but not the planned games list. No idea when that's going to be finished.Sorry about that. I get distracted a lot. When my schedule clears up, I'll help you finish the game for good!
Post by: FallacyofUrist on May 02, 2018, 02:15:51 pm
Secret FBYOR 4 Option: Bastard: I get creative. I may lie.
Take as much time as you need. Real life is more important.
Post by: hector13 on May 02, 2018, 02:17:31 pm
Put Mafia Marathon 2 on the planned games list.
in
Post by: Tomasque on May 02, 2018, 02:23:59 pm
Yay.Not to hurt my case, but my schedule is mainly the GMing stuff for BYOS. It'll become RL when finals/AP test season starts in a week. After that, I'll have all the free time I need to finish Odd Mafia.
Secret FBYOR 4 Option: Bastard: I get creative. I may lie.
Take as much time as you need. Real life is more important.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on May 13, 2018, 01:58:22 pm
About time, too.
Fallacy's BYOR 4 is definitely going in the planned games list. I've got quite a few good theme ideas...
Post by: Mephansteras on May 14, 2018, 12:39:27 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on May 16, 2018, 01:15:58 pm
Post by: hector13 on May 16, 2018, 01:53:55 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on May 16, 2018, 03:54:38 pm
Seeking permission to put Mostly Vanilla Mafia into signups.
The idea is to create a mafia game well suited for beginners, but more interesting than a BM. Each player would have a power role(nobody wants to have no powers, really). The powers, though, would be "mostly vanilla". The classics and whatnot, Trackers, Cops, Vigilantes, but also perhaps some variants that differ a little bit in some way. Third parties would be possible, but would be selected from a limited lineup. I'd run whatever setup I came up with through Mephansteras or some other experienced mod before starting up.
Post by: Mephansteras on May 16, 2018, 03:57:39 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on May 16, 2018, 04:52:59 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on May 29, 2018, 07:19:42 pm
Post by: Maximum Spin on July 11, 2018, 05:11:28 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on July 11, 2018, 05:15:04 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on July 11, 2018, 06:30:40 pm
Post by: hector13 on July 11, 2018, 06:31:25 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on July 25, 2018, 09:41:45 pm
Who's next?
I guess I could run another game if nobody steps up, but I heard Maximum Spin has a game in mind...
Post by: IcyTea31 on July 26, 2018, 01:53:18 am
Post by: Maximum Spin on July 26, 2018, 01:57:01 am
Post by: doomchild on July 28, 2018, 01:01:53 pm
Post by: hector13 on July 28, 2018, 02:03:05 pm
Not sure if the game being set up just now is necessarily beginner friendly, but mafia is easier to learn by doing than reading.
Post by: IcyTea31 on July 28, 2018, 03:24:50 pm
Not sure if the game being set up just now is necessarily beginner friendly, but mafia is easier to learn by doing than reading.I think that, based on the OP, there's a chance of it being bastard. That would make it extremely beginner-unfriendly. Of course, what better way to learn than with a trial by fire?
Post by: doomchild on July 29, 2018, 02:09:29 pm
Post by: hector13 on July 29, 2018, 02:15:00 pm
From what I can tell, he's the one making the roles, so it's according to his whim what you get. It may just be that, may be a lot more.
Post by: Persus13 on July 29, 2018, 02:21:43 pm
This list has some notable examples (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=144075.0)
Post by: IcyTea31 on July 29, 2018, 02:44:15 pm
Without an existing understanding of the game, it's hard to learn the playstyle and mindset required for bastard. It's not beginner-friendly. It's not anyone-friendly, really. But done right, it will at least make for a laugh when you look back at it later.
Post by: Maximum Spin on July 30, 2018, 12:40:25 am
Also, even though I dispute that they are bastard, any "sufficiently Jester-like" win conditions would still allow the game to continue for everyone else. The implication that it is possible for more than one win condition to win at the same time is also generally true.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on July 30, 2018, 06:00:55 pm
Maybe something a little less bastard for the peeps who aren't so interested in whatever the heck Spin has planned.
Maybe FBYOR 4(now featuring Money!).
Post by: Tomasque on September 07, 2018, 12:15:42 am
I need a couple of people to playtest a mafia project I'm making. Each round is really small - 3 people each - and are very straightforward. Once enough people have playtested, I'll use their behavior to make AI players for 2 of the spots, making this a single player mafia game. So, if this sounds interesting and you want to get assimilated into an AI, then go on and check it out!
Take a look at the rules (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qfn1G1a6gof7kPpXHyfCprHqxKKHKP1LujvQFx1uv-Y/edit?usp=sharing)
and join a game on Discord (https://discord.gg/eVgFZkd)
Post by: FallacyofUrist on November 09, 2018, 06:56:47 pm
It had... faults.
~~~
That means there are no mafia games currently running. Is this the end of the subforum?
Post by: Mephansteras on November 09, 2018, 07:23:40 pm
Post by: Persus13 on November 09, 2018, 07:24:40 pm
Post by: hector13 on November 09, 2018, 07:29:11 pm
Post by: IcyTea31 on November 10, 2018, 07:27:37 am
Post by: TricMagic on November 11, 2018, 09:11:46 am
FBYOR 4 ran out of steam. I'm sorry to say I'm giving up that game.
It had... faults.
~~~
That means there are no mafia games currently running. Is this the end of the subforum?
I still have openings on my own game. A lot of them in fact.
Post by: Maximum Spin on November 11, 2018, 09:41:32 am
Oh, you decided to uncancel that? Sure, count me in, I guess.FBYOR 4 ran out of steam. I'm sorry to say I'm giving up that game.
It had... faults.
~~~
That means there are no mafia games currently running. Is this the end of the subforum?
I still have openings on my own game. A lot of them in fact.
Post by: dolores on February 15, 2019, 04:13:21 am
TricMagic's ByoS has been in signups since September, so even if it does run I imagine there will be some time to take to follow up on the players
Any other current plans?
Post by: webadict on February 21, 2019, 11:40:23 pm
ToS is ogreEhhhhh... I'm considering finishing Sprng [Of] Hate aaaaaany time now. I'm also making a new LurkterTracker because I'm bored.
TricMagic's ByoS has been in signups since September, so even if it does run I imagine there will be some time to take to follow up on the players
Any other current plans?
Post by: dolores on February 26, 2019, 06:19:10 am
On a thematically related note (however useless to the goal of the prior topic) I was able to retrieve my old quicktopic account because it has much more restrictive and insecure password rules, and it turns out that I'd deleted the quicktopics I was writing the flavor and setup for Broken Hearts I in. I had similarly destroyed the text file originals of the quicktopic information. Obviously, that wasn't the kind of game you'd subject new players to (also I really wouldn't want to run it right now, though I would have time since I'm now retired).
From what I could recall the setup was a pretty basic 9 player variant of the 7 players: 2scum|2PR|3townies setup, with a loyal amorous psychopath (who had death as part of their wincon) and a jealous necrophile heartbreaker as the 'scumteam', 3 relatively vanilla girls who could only win in relationships with girls, a survivalist loner who the heartbreaker needed to lose in order to win, a popular antagonistic girl who won with girls, and two girls who could win with the heartbreaker or with 'town' roles, one of whom was nosy and the other jealous. Someone else might have been nosy or jealous (one of the 'townies').
I remember feeling like the overall setup was pretty nice since while the 'scum' pair would quickly form, both town PRs had strong options for keeping town alive through a mislynch, unlimited lynching cycles and the difficulty involved in killing the survivor without splitting up scum for a nightcycle or more helped prevent quick scumwins from survivor claims.
The thing that I wanted to ask you about was:
I had advice and/or metainformation in the role packets for most players, since I felt like the format was going to feel really strange to a lot of people and there wasn't the unlimited amount of time more strictly bastard setups usually have.
Is this kind of thing a good idea? I'm not sure I can bring up a good example if I can't find the original text, but for instance one of the players with the most basic role was told that it was uncommon for the roles to be so lacking in information, so that they'd not be surprised when the full diaries started getting posted or flipping.
I wrote a lot for the flavor of that game.
I might have copy on my old laptop with the failing harddrive, but I can't remember the encryption key I used for it so even if that is there I dunno if I'l ever be able to find it.
Post by: webadict on February 26, 2019, 09:30:55 pm
I was going to say that you don't have the kind of players for something like that but fishing for old players to recylce with a bastard setup might be a good idea.Yeah, and honestly, it's not a big deal to run it. It's just a pet project, but I could easily run a Vote Mafia, or something a little more basic. Closed/Semi-Closed Setup and no bastardry. I've just been busy moving.
The thing that I wanted to ask you about was:I don't see how this couldn't be planned for. It seems doable, and even potentially good for the players to know something more than they do. I could argue that there's a bit of an unfair advantage to it, but... I think it's so minimal as to be ignored. Do it!
I had advice and/or metainformation in the role packets for most players, since I felt like the format was going to feel really strange to a lot of people and there wasn't the unlimited amount of time more strictly bastard setups usually have.
Is this kind of thing a good idea? I'm not sure I can bring up a good example if I can't find the original text, but for instance one of the players with the most basic role was told that it was uncommon for the roles to be so lacking in information, so that they'd not be surprised when the full diaries started getting posted or flipping.
I wrote a lot for the flavor of that game.
I might have copy on my old laptop with the failing harddrive, but I can't remember the encryption key I used for it so even if that is there I dunno if I'l ever be able to find it.
Post by: dolores on February 26, 2019, 10:30:50 pm
I quite like the idea of generated setups because of this, though I suppose making hard reads on the mod is an essential skill on B12 if you're going to go into any sort of bastard territory.
Post by: webadict on March 03, 2019, 12:15:39 am
Post by: notquitethere on April 22, 2019, 04:37:09 am
Post by: Nirur Torir on April 25, 2019, 08:19:54 pm
Post by: randomgenericusername on April 25, 2019, 09:27:42 pm
With the weird roles of ProcGen and the Yugioh game, I'm interested in running a mostly vanilla, beginner friendly game, with just the roles stolen from a beginner game. Or I'd be quite happy to run a full beginner game, if we can get enough interest for that.I would be interested, but wouldn't it be better to wait for the ProcGen game? Maybe until a few players have been removed, otherwise you might lack enough players for it if not enough beginners decide to join.
Post by: Superdorf on April 25, 2019, 10:57:20 pm
With the weird roles of ProcGen and the Yugioh game, I'm interested in running a mostly vanilla, beginner friendly game, with just the roles stolen from a beginner game. Or I'd be quite happy to run a full beginner game, if we can get enough interest for that.
That sounds wonderful, but I'm already slotted into this ProcGen thing... afterwards, maybe?
Post by: dolores on April 26, 2019, 06:04:17 am
I'm interested in running a mostly vanilla, beginner friendly game, with just the roles stolen from a beginner game. Or I'd be quite happy to run a full beginner game, if we can get enough interest for that.Why?
There are people who probably aren't going to play again for quiet some time that would run games. There's nothing really to be gained out of running a game that you wouldn't get more out of than by playing, it's just that outside of passion projects (which are passion projects) running a game doesn't actually take that much time, especially if the rules are familiar and/or unambiguous. I very much would prefer to be playing a more vanilla game, but I'd also prefer to have you also playing in that game and somebody like Webadict who's probably not going to play running the game.
What's the plan for Sprng [Of} Hate anyway, gonna wait for older players to show up and run it then or just throw it out there at some point and ruin the life of people who've never played bastard mods before?
Post by: KitRougard on April 26, 2019, 07:28:26 am
Post by: dolores on April 26, 2019, 08:24:51 am
The premise of 'bastard mod' is that the mod, infact, is a bastard and has provided limited and/or incorrect information to players. A lot of them come down to collaborative puzzles where you can just mechanically break the setup, others are complex to the point of most or all players acting in 80-100% ignorance at all times. Like most questions, the best way to answer it is to direct you to example games. KYOSN (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=145144.0) was one of my favorites, but most of the ones in the noteable games archive serve to demonstrate the genre.
A particular mark of the genre is performing actions like placing and retracting votes to try and figure out what hidden abilities players have that are altering the visible votecount, for a brief insight into what the play tends to be like.
Post by: randomgenericusername on April 26, 2019, 09:33:35 am
Depends.Another example would be Maximum Spin's "Dark Secret" BYOR Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=171530.0). It's the most recent bastard mod game, in which everyone was mafia and either: a death miller, cultist, serial killer, werewolf or any combination of those.
The premise of 'bastard mod' is that the mod, infact, is a bastard and has provided limited and/or incorrect information to players. A lot of them come down to collaborative puzzles where you can just mechanically break the setup, others are complex to the point of most or all players acting in 80-100% ignorance at all times. Like most questions, the best way to answer it is to direct you to example games. KYOSN (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=145144.0) was one of my favorites, but most of the ones in the noteable games archive serve to demonstrate the genre.
A particular mark of the genre is performing actions like placing and retracting votes to try and figure out what hidden abilities players have that are altering the visible votecount, for a brief insight into what the play tends to be like.
Post by: Shakerag on May 02, 2019, 06:49:12 pm
If there's enough interest, I'd consider throwing it up in the queue. Do we even still have a queue? No we don't. So I guess that might be after NQT's game?
Post by: hector13 on May 02, 2019, 06:53:18 pm
Post by: Shakerag on May 02, 2019, 06:57:24 pm
Sure.Oooh, you were in the last one. Anything to add in regards to the format?
Post by: notquitethere on May 02, 2019, 07:01:49 pm
Post by: hector13 on May 02, 2019, 07:22:33 pm
I don’t remember anything beyond being annoyed with TBF and killing weirdo. Should probably read it and get back to you.Sure.Oooh, you were in the last one. Anything to add in regards to the format?
Post by: KitRougard on May 02, 2019, 07:28:10 pm
YOU'RE IN DANGER.
But this actually looks more like my element, ToS.
Post by: Shakerag on May 02, 2019, 07:54:32 pm
But this actually looks more like my element, ToS.ToS?
Post by: Persus13 on May 02, 2019, 08:23:12 pm
Post by: KitRougard on May 02, 2019, 08:23:47 pm
It has a wide variety of roles for town, mafia, and other, and NOONE'S vanilla! Everyone does something!
Post by: Persus13 on May 02, 2019, 08:29:59 pm
Post by: KitRougard on May 02, 2019, 08:34:53 pm
Maybe a Medium, because people tend to leave when they die.
Even in ranked.
People is spechul.
Post by: Shakerag on May 02, 2019, 09:48:38 pm
Well, continue to let me know if you'd be interested in that game I mentioned.
Post by: Persus13 on May 02, 2019, 09:51:14 pm
Post by: Shakerag on May 18, 2019, 11:47:03 pm
Post by: TricMagic on May 19, 2019, 10:39:10 am
Deus Asmoth's bastard game(1) TricMagic
Post by: hector13 on May 19, 2019, 10:47:07 am
Post by: randomgenericusername on May 19, 2019, 11:20:10 am
Post by: KitRougard on May 19, 2019, 01:26:10 pm
Post by: Shakerag on May 20, 2019, 11:57:32 am
Proc Gen 2 is over, and I gueeeessss people want me to start up a game?
Post by: Mephansteras on May 20, 2019, 11:58:41 am
Post by: Shakerag on May 20, 2019, 01:23:21 pm
Post by: dolores on June 04, 2019, 08:11:50 am
What's next?
I'm down for Ghost Mafia if NQT wants to run that
Post by: notquitethere on June 04, 2019, 09:08:22 am
Post by: IcyTea31 on June 04, 2019, 09:44:18 am
Post by: Tiruin on June 04, 2019, 10:33:19 am
I'm down for Ghost Mafia if NQT wants to run thatIt's been a long time since I've played Mafia and learned and grown a lot since then (And I feel utterly horrible if I caused anyone harm!)
I'd be totally up for this too!
Post by: Shakerag on June 05, 2019, 01:47:31 pm
Post by: TricMagic on June 05, 2019, 02:20:04 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on June 05, 2019, 03:45:27 pm
So far we have:
Ghost Mafia (notquitethere)
Basic 12-man (TricMagic)
Bastard Paranormal (Mephansteras)
Post by: randomgenericusername on June 05, 2019, 08:50:15 pm
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Ghost Mafia (notquitethere):
Basic 12-man (TricMagic):
Bastard Paranormal (Mephansteras): 1
Ghost Mafia sounds really interesting, but I'm going to vote for Bastard Paranormal.
Post by: IcyTea31 on June 05, 2019, 11:54:34 pm
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Ghost Mafia (notquitethere): IcyTea31 (1)I'd rather not play another bastard game so soon after Shakerag's semi-bastard and TricMagic's uninformed bastard. I'd like to play something where any sudden turnarounds are due to simple player action and manipulation rather than weird abilities and random shit. Ghost Mafia seems good for practicing my technique, too.
Basic 12-man (TricMagic):
Bastard Paranormal (Mephansteras): randomgenericusername (1)
Post by: dolores on June 06, 2019, 12:04:35 am
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Ghost Mafia (notquitethere): IcyTea31, dolores (2)I was trying to vote for Ghost Mafia before if that wasn't clear
Basic 12-man (TricMagic):
Bastard Paranormal (Mephansteras): randomgenericusername (1)
Post by: TricMagic on June 06, 2019, 03:22:52 pm
Post by: Superdorf on June 06, 2019, 04:07:52 pm
Post by: IcyTea31 on June 06, 2019, 04:25:43 pm
Post by: Deus Asmoth on June 06, 2019, 09:06:48 pm
Also, I guess I'd like to put Superhero Mafia 3 in the queue as well. It's probably somewhere between bastard and really bastard.
Post by: randomgenericusername on June 06, 2019, 09:27:11 pm
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Ghost Mafia (notquitethere): IcyTea31, dolores, randomgenericusername (3)
Basic 12-man (TricMagic): Superdorf (1)
Bastard Paranormal (Mephansteras):
Superhero Mafia 3:
Changing my vote, since Ghost Mafia seems to be getting more votes. Don't like much the idea of having a basic game right now.
Post by: Persus13 on June 06, 2019, 11:18:55 pm
Post by: notquitethere on June 10, 2019, 03:35:32 am
Post by: notquitethere on June 10, 2019, 06:35:23 am
Post by: IcyTea31 on July 16, 2019, 04:40:04 pm
Post by: TricMagic on July 19, 2019, 07:53:34 am
Given that game.. Anyone mind if I run a Basic 12 Player game here?
Post by: Shakerag on July 19, 2019, 08:39:19 am
Post by: Mephansteras on July 21, 2019, 12:43:55 am
Post by: Mephansteras on August 02, 2019, 07:16:32 pm
Post by: hector13 on August 02, 2019, 09:16:44 pm
Does that seem reasonable?
Edit: unless someone else wants to do it/something different. This would be my second game modding otherwise.
Post by: IcyTea31 on August 03, 2019, 05:05:05 am
Post by: 4maskwolf on August 16, 2019, 10:24:02 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on September 04, 2019, 10:33:23 pm
First. It is entirely my own fault FBYOR3 and FBYOR4 kinda crashed and burned awfully. My complexity addiction got in the way of basic decency in game mechanics. I ask for your forgiveness.
Secondly, if there is demand, I'd like to try my hand at running either FBYOR5 or The King's Will(a certain custom setup I've been thinking about based around rooting out traitors who want to marry the royal princess).
Post by: IcyTea31 on September 05, 2019, 07:49:55 am
Post by: 4maskwolf on September 05, 2019, 08:50:12 am
Post by: Persus13 on September 05, 2019, 08:54:20 am
Post by: IonMatrix on September 05, 2019, 10:20:55 am
Maybe someone should start a normal game and BM hybrid. Or a begginer friendly normal game.
Post by: Superdorf on September 05, 2019, 10:44:17 am
I wouldn't want to hold up all these other games tho! :D
Post by: Shakerag on September 05, 2019, 11:05:02 am
If you look at a game like my Power Hungry series, they are tons of fun, but take a -significant- amount of background work.
Post by: 4maskwolf on September 05, 2019, 02:04:13 pm
Okay, so here's a crazy thought... what if I ran a normal-game? I've played a bit now, and I'm kinda curious to try my hand at game-modding... a beginner's game would be a nice way to ease into it and play around with fluff-writing and whatnot.
I wouldn't want to hold up all these other games tho! :D
If you want a good setup to cut your teeth on I'd be more than happy to have you as a co-mod for NSBM 6. In spite of what it's name might sound like Not-So-Beginner Mafia is literally just the Beginner Mafia setup but without the senior player restrictions or designated ICs.
Post by: Superdorf on September 05, 2019, 05:42:09 pm
Post by: IcyTea31 on September 05, 2019, 05:53:07 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on September 05, 2019, 05:58:13 pm
TBH I'm half-tempted to just say "hey, you wanna run NSBM 6? Go ahead and have it!" But I've written a lot of flavor for it I'd be sad to waste lol.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on September 05, 2019, 06:30:25 pm
In any case I'll run FBYOR5 if there's enough interest and preference for that. If people prefer the idea of NSBM6 being run, then I'll go ahead and join that as a player.
Post by: Superdorf on September 05, 2019, 06:51:20 pm
Or I could play in that BYOR. I've not played in such a game before; it'd be an interesting experience.
Both things are good. :)
Post by: 4maskwolf on September 05, 2019, 07:05:34 pm
It's nice that we've got a few new players, for sure.Whichever order, really, I'm not picky. Anyone have a preference on basic vs. complicated for the next game?
In any case I'll run FBYOR5 if there's enough interest and preference for that. If people prefer the idea of NSBM6 being run, then I'll go ahead and join that as a player.
Post by: IcyTea31 on September 05, 2019, 07:20:00 pm
Post by: IonMatrix on September 06, 2019, 09:21:56 am
Post by: Superdorf on September 06, 2019, 09:25:41 am
I figure I can fake it tho!
Post by: IcyTea31 on September 06, 2019, 10:07:01 am
Post by: FallacyofUrist on September 06, 2019, 01:29:49 pm
Post by: Superdorf on September 06, 2019, 04:06:57 pm
Now we just need to figure out what we're doing when... shall I start working with 4maskwolf to prepare a game, or wait for that BYOR to play out first?
Post by: Pooka on September 07, 2019, 03:11:44 pm
Post by: Shakerag on September 08, 2019, 11:15:35 am
Hmmm, how does this work? Ahem, more like, what are the vanilla games available? I'd like to go for Basic 12-man but not sure if it's still there or not (it's not in the first two posts at a glance).
I'll just pull the vanilla game category from our Notable Games Archive thread:
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Beginner's Mafia I (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=39457.0)
The very first Beginner's Mafia round ever run. The scumteam, inexperienced as it was, managed to pull the wool over the town's eyes after nearly getting caught the first day. Notable both for terrible scum play and excellent scum play, as well as a number of attempted gambits. Shows the downside to townie gambles, as well as being a good guide on trapping beginners and structured, end-game oriented scum play.
Beginner's Mafia III (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=42347.0)
This was the game that moved ICs from "player" status to "observer/tutor" status. Both ICs rolled up scum and proceeded to thrash the town in a manly fashion--other than the fact that one of them died D2 after a carefully launched townie assault. The other one was Webadict. Despite the thrashing, this was a surprisingly tense game. A last-minute townie replacement resulted in a near-loss for the scum team. Demonstrates insightful playing at its best, on both sides.
Beginner's Mafia IV (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=43648.0)
Near-flawless scum game, along with a doctor gambit near the end that played out surprisingly well. This is the game to look at if you want to see how to fake town.
Beginner's Mafia IX (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=49517.0)
Mostly up for its obscenely good flavor. The town played a strong game in this one, as did the scum, despite numerous replacements. Nothing especially new, but it's a truly great read.
Beginner's Mafia XXXIII (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=108236.msg3228150#msg3228150)
Both IC's were scum. Need I say more?
Beginner's Mafia XXXV (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=113813.msg3475143;topicseen#msg3475143)
Don't let the scum lurk to victory. Do enjoy the magnificent flavor.
Not-So Beginner's Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=42348.0)
The scum convinced a townie to lynch confirmed town. Good and bad play abound here from both sides. If you didn't know what buddying was when you started reading, you'll certainly know by the end.
Not-So-Beginner Mafia: Panda Edition (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=79927.0)
This is basically the fastest town victory the board has ever seen. Ever. It was entirely behavior-based, too. Of course, the scum were relatively inexperienced, but this is still an absurdly high-powered game.
Oh, and the flavor was also awesome--pity we couldn't see more of it.
Near-Mountainous Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=46678.0)
Good town play--unfortunately against some rather poor scum, but the hunting was relentless, and the scum gave a strong fight.
Post by: dolores on September 10, 2019, 12:01:20 am
Post by: IonMatrix on September 10, 2019, 10:02:16 am
Post by: Superdorf on September 10, 2019, 10:06:45 am
Post by: IcyTea31 on September 10, 2019, 01:29:57 pm
Post by: Pooka on September 11, 2019, 07:05:42 am
Post by: Superdorf on September 12, 2019, 09:33:53 am
Post by: IonMatrix on September 12, 2019, 06:53:55 pm
*ahem*
Anyways, good luck on co-modding, superdorf!
Post by: Naturegirl1999 on September 12, 2019, 08:41:02 pm
Good! I can't wait to be lynched on day 1 again! :PSorry about that. Even as Town, I would have found absence suspicious. I wasn’t thinking of IRL curcumstances
*ahem*
Anyways, good luck on co-modding, superdorf!
Post by: IonMatrix on September 12, 2019, 11:05:54 pm
Actually, I wasn't blaming anyone, so no need to apologize there.Good! I can't wait to be lynched on day 1 again! :PSorry about that. Even as Town, I would have found absence suspicious. I wasn’t thinking of IRL curcumstances
*ahem*
Anyways, good luck on co-modding, superdorf!
Post by: IonMatrix on September 14, 2019, 07:39:47 pm
Post by: Naturegirl1999 on September 14, 2019, 07:57:25 pm
Post by: Superdorf on September 14, 2019, 08:47:07 pm
So how's pre-comodding going, Superdorf?Well I've got some rules-n'-roles all written up, and I need 4maskwolf to look over them... it's taking a little while.
If this drags on too much longer, perhaps we can just play that BYOR of Fallacy's. I wouldn't want to keep y'all waiting!
Post by: 4maskwolf on September 15, 2019, 07:48:45 am
Because the one I got sent (5 VT, 1 cop, 1 doc, 1 maf RB, 1 VM) is not the one I remember playing.
Post by: Shakerag on September 15, 2019, 10:01:03 am
...did we change the beginner mafia setup while I wasn't looking?
Because the one I got sent (5 VT, 1 cop, 1 doc, 1 maf RB, 1 VM) is not the one I remember playing.
Seems like it's Leafsnail's fault from back here: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=44314.msg4150782#msg4150782
Post by: 4maskwolf on September 15, 2019, 11:26:49 am
Post by: hector13 on September 15, 2019, 12:08:32 pm
We changed something, but I think it was just to a semi-open setup in which there were three potential role distributions.
Post by: 4maskwolf on September 15, 2019, 01:40:09 pm
Post by: Superdorf on September 23, 2019, 09:11:09 pm
Post by: notquitethere on December 16, 2019, 10:34:25 am
Post by: Naturegirl1999 on December 16, 2019, 04:52:02 pm
Proc Gen Mafia is in Signups (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=175212.0)Thank you for posting this, it will be interesting. I won’t get better at Mafia without practice, and I like the not knowing what anyone is
Post by: IonMatrix on February 28, 2020, 11:15:09 am
Post by: hector13 on February 28, 2020, 02:46:21 pm
Post by: IonMatrix on February 29, 2020, 12:57:50 am
Post by: Shakerag on March 04, 2020, 09:30:46 am
I think you just volunteered yourself to mod.I second this motion.
Post by: IonMatrix on March 04, 2020, 09:45:38 am
Post by: IcyTea31 on March 04, 2020, 02:56:55 pm
You don't have to mod if you really don't want to, but moderating a game would be an excellent learning experience; it makes you really think about how the different roles interact, and how players think when faced with different situations and levels of knowledge. It also uses a wholly different skillset, so you don't need to worry even if you feel you need more practice on the player side of things.
Post by: notquitethere on March 04, 2020, 03:10:15 pm
Post by: Persus13 on March 04, 2020, 05:08:48 pm
Post by: Naturegirl1999 on March 04, 2020, 05:14:41 pm
Post by: pisskop on March 04, 2020, 05:27:47 pm
most open Mafia games, wherein you know the setup beforehand, can be adjusted up and down on the twos. and sometimes ones.
kind of like how sports brakets can be made with 2/4/8/16/32 players easily, but its slightly harder to make a 6 person bracket without complicating the formula. and a five person tourney requires still more tweaking tonwork.
Post by: IcyTea31 on March 04, 2020, 05:45:53 pm
Post by: notquitethere on March 05, 2020, 10:44:33 am
I can run King of the Mafia if we have enough people.If you build it they will come.
Post by: Naturegirl1999 on March 05, 2020, 11:36:35 am
Check out the previous King of the Mafia games (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=164885.0) to see how they work.Sounds interesting
Post by: IonMatrix on March 09, 2020, 09:01:16 am
Post by: Persus13 on March 09, 2020, 01:30:56 pm
Post by: hector13 on March 09, 2020, 01:55:46 pm
So, uh, are we doing this? I MIGHT take a try at running a game, but I'm kind of want to participate in that King of Mafia.
It wouldn't have to be anything special, you could just do a modified BM or something.
Post by: Persus13 on March 10, 2020, 12:01:40 pm
King of the Mafia is basically a Legacy BYOR with a preset list of roles. There's 7 players and one is randomly selected to be the King Mafia. The King Mafia needs to be the last person standing to win. Everyone else needs to kill the King Mafia. If the King Mafia wins, the game ends, if they are killed, a new round is started with a new King Mafia and folks keep their roles if they still live.
Post by: dolores on May 13, 2020, 05:01:25 pm
Recently received some inspiration for a format:If I'm modding I'd be freezing time over weekends since I usually spend that with family these days.
- no mislynches, game starts on lylo/mylo, no no-lynch (KotM rules)
- 72hr dayphase, no nightphase
- scum indicate to mod what player they want to kill in QT and most recently nominated player flips at the same time as the lynch
- game ends on first mislynch, scum and all NK'd town win. All town (alive and dead) win if all scum are lynched.
If a player is mislynched and NK'd at the same time they still win.
Please tell me why this is a terrible idea.
If there are inactive player(s) town/scum can quickhammer and start the 'next game' in <24hrs with all remaining players + any new if it's a mislynch so a persistently inactive player on D1 can just make the game end and restart in <48hr instead of costing everyone a 96x3hr game like they normally do hopefully.
Though unconventional, this is a mountainous setup with a simpler night-phase metagame (there's no penalty to being perceived as a strong town player) so there shouldn't be any barrier to entry for new players.
Looks like I don't have time for that
Post by: Mephansteras on October 04, 2020, 10:35:19 am
Post by: hector13 on October 04, 2020, 10:40:39 am
Post by: 4maskwolf on October 04, 2020, 10:40:50 am
Been forever since we had a game going. How many people would be in if I started up a Paranormal game?I'm down.
Post by: TricMagic on October 04, 2020, 11:21:45 am
Post by: MoonyTheHuman on October 05, 2020, 01:41:15 am
Post by: webadict on October 05, 2020, 06:58:16 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on October 15, 2020, 04:28:57 pm
Post by: RoseHeart on October 16, 2020, 02:44:49 am
Post by: webadict on October 20, 2020, 07:56:00 pm
Ok, got busy for a bit, but I'm going to get any rules changes hammered out over the weekend and I'll get the game into sign-ups by Monday at the latest.(http://deadshirt.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/memento3-1024x576.jpg)
Post by: Mephansteras on October 20, 2020, 08:22:53 pm
Post by: Shakerag on October 21, 2020, 08:29:57 am
Post by: webadict on October 21, 2020, 11:04:27 am
lol, webadict is one to talkSorry, I was out walking my dog's dinner and I had a surprise midterm final exam presentation late from my job vaca-moving car broke up with my girlfriend.
Post by: Mephansteras on October 21, 2020, 07:00:25 pm
Anyway, game is up (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=177426.0)!
Post by: Shakerag on October 22, 2020, 08:34:52 am
lol, webadict is one to talkSorry, I was out walking my dog's dinner and I had a surprise midterm final exam presentation late from my job vaca-moving car broke up with my girlfriend.
In the words of the kids now a days, "total sus".
Post by: webadict on October 22, 2020, 01:05:42 pm
Hey, can anyone tell me how to vent like Shakerag? Can't figure it out.lol, webadict is one to talkSorry, I was out walking my dog's dinner and I had a surprise midterm final exam presentation late from my job vaca-moving car broke up with my girlfriend.
In the words of the kids now a days, "total sus".
Post by: webadict on November 09, 2020, 06:38:48 pm
Game Mode Idea: Tracker Jacks
Here's the rules:
- Day is unchanged (e.g. a plurality of voters can lynch a player each Day)
- At the start of each Day, the players will be informed if they are current in a Lylo or Mylo situation.
- There is no Mafiakill.
- Each Mafia player may make an action other than their role actions to temporarily mark a town player.
- Each Mafia player may make an action other than their role actions to turn a temporary mark into a permanent mark (Regardless of who made the mark on their team.)
- If all living Town players have been marked (temporarily or permanently), the Mafia wins.
- When a Mafia player is lynched, their temporary marks are removed.
- At the end of each Night, all players that were targeted by an action will be known, though neither who performed those actions nor what actions will be divulged.
The essence of this game is that all roles would be a flavor of Tracker, but that each Tracker might have additional abilities that could help with their tracking. Honestly, after thinking through it a bit, I'm pretty sure it's missing something in there, but I'm not sure what. Ideas? Viability?
Post by: Tomasque on November 11, 2020, 07:45:24 pm
- It gives the Mafia an interesting two-fold choice. Can I risk taking a second action tonight? Who can I keep from being voted without looking suspicious about it?
- The game requires a ticking clock to prevent the town from waffling about, and these "pseudo-kills" achieve that.
However, I think there's a way to achieve that with a more fitting ability:
- Each Mafia player may make an action other than their role actions to temporarily steal a player's vote. (They cannot steal a fellow mafioso's vote.)
- If they do, the target's vote doesn't count, and the mafioso's vote counts double. The real number of votes against someone is only revealed at the end of the day.
- However, if the target is voting against the mafioso who stole their vote, the vote-steal has no effect.
I think this provides an interesting choice for the mafia (Can I risk a second action tonight? Early: Who will vote the same as many other people? Late: Who won't be voting me tomorrow?) while also keeping steady pressure on the town. Furthermore, having it be an ability that leaves clues behind at the end of the day compliments the setup's focus on Information Espionage.
What do you think?
Post by: Mephansteras on November 11, 2020, 09:30:28 pm
How many people would want in on that?
Alternatively, how many people would want in on a Bastard Paranormal?
Post by: webadict on November 11, 2020, 10:33:41 pm
I feel like the marking system is a little superfluous to the core idea of Information Espionage. However, I get why you included it:I think there are some holes where the Mafia gains an advantage at 1/3 of the players +1.
- It gives the Mafia an interesting two-fold choice. Can I risk taking a second action tonight? Who can I keep from being voted without looking suspicious about it?
- The game requires a ticking clock to prevent the town from waffling about, and these "pseudo-kills" achieve that.
However, I think there's a way to achieve that with a more fitting ability:Additionally, players must vote someone out every day.
- Each Mafia player may make an action other than their role actions to temporarily steal a player's vote. (They cannot steal a fellow mafioso's vote.)
- If they do, the target's vote doesn't count, and the mafioso's vote counts double. The real number of votes against someone is only revealed at the end of the day.
- However, if the target is voting against the mafioso who stole their vote, the vote-steal has no effect.
I think this provides an interesting choice for the mafia (Can I risk a second action tonight? Early: Who will vote the same as many other people? Late: Who won't be voting me tomorrow?) while also keeping steady pressure on the town. Furthermore, having it be an ability that leaves clues behind at the end of the day compliments the setup's focus on Information Espionage.
What do you think?
Assume M mafia players. They steal votes from M town players. The mafia now control 2M votes. The town control N-M votes. When N < 3M, the following happens. All mafia vote for a single player. If the remaining Town players vote them back, it will be 2M-M vs. 3M-2M votes, where M players vote for the M mafia that took their votes.
There would need to be a bigger drawback, such as the mafia being able to steal a vote, and if that vote's owner votes them back, the town players gets BOTH their stolen vote and the mafia's vote as compensation. Then it still relies on the mafia getting to make a risky choice while giving them the benefits you listed.
Post by: webadict on November 11, 2020, 10:34:12 pm
There seems to be some interest in me running another Paranormal since 26 ended so quickly.Yeah, but only if Vector promises to posts walls of text.
How many people would want in on that?
Alternatively, how many people would want in on a Bastard Paranormal?
Post by: 4maskwolf on November 12, 2020, 06:29:56 am
There seems to be some interest in me running another Paranormal since 26 ended so quickly.I'm willing to play either, though a bastard paranormal sounds like fun.
How many people would want in on that?
Alternatively, how many people would want in on a Bastard Paranormal?
Post by: Shakerag on November 12, 2020, 09:55:44 am
I remember Bastard Paranormal 2 being a blast.
Post by: webadict on November 12, 2020, 03:10:37 pm
Maybe something ridiculous, like a BYOR. Maybe something classic, like DF Mafia. Maybe something action light, like Vote Mafia. Or something else entirely, if you were interested. I technically have Sprg [Of] Hate on the backburner, but I'm pretty sure it simmered to death. Yeah, probably all blackened and stuff.
Anyone interested in those afterward?
Post by: TricMagic on November 12, 2020, 03:24:25 pm
I vote BYOR of course, crazy game which would hopefully draw people.
Post by: Mephansteras on November 12, 2020, 03:37:22 pm
I'll put the Bastard Paranormal up into signups today and let it run through the weekend and hopefully get started by Monday.
It's not a long game if things go as I expect they will. But I think people will have a ton of fun with it.
And that gives Web time to figure out what he wants to do and he can kick off that game after that.
It's good to see some life in this sub-forum again!
Post by: Shakerag on November 12, 2020, 03:40:12 pm
I'd also propose running a game, as well.
Maybe something ridiculous, like a BYOR. Maybe something classic, like DF Mafia. Maybe something action light, like Vote Mafia. Or something else entirely, if you were interested. I technically have Sprg [Of] Hate on the backburner, but I'm pretty sure it simmered to death. Yeah, probably all blackened and stuff.
Anyone interested in those afterward?
If you promise not to disappear like you did in BYOR14.
Post by: webadict on November 12, 2020, 03:52:36 pm
Shakerag, you can have three roles.I'd also propose running a game, as well.
Maybe something ridiculous, like a BYOR. Maybe something classic, like DF Mafia. Maybe something action light, like Vote Mafia. Or something else entirely, if you were interested. I technically have Sprg [Of] Hate on the backburner, but I'm pretty sure it simmered to death. Yeah, probably all blackened and stuff.
Anyone interested in those afterward?
If you promise not to disappear like you did in BYOR14.
Post by: Shakerag on November 12, 2020, 04:07:23 pm
Stahp, I can only get so erect.Shakerag, you can have three roles.I'd also propose running a game, as well.
Maybe something ridiculous, like a BYOR. Maybe something classic, like DF Mafia. Maybe something action light, like Vote Mafia. Or something else entirely, if you were interested. I technically have Sprg [Of] Hate on the backburner, but I'm pretty sure it simmered to death. Yeah, probably all blackened and stuff.
Anyone interested in those afterward?
If you promise not to disappear like you did in BYOR14.
Post by: 4maskwolf on November 12, 2020, 04:17:30 pm
May the lord have mercy on us all...Shakerag, you can have three roles.I'd also propose running a game, as well.
Maybe something ridiculous, like a BYOR. Maybe something classic, like DF Mafia. Maybe something action light, like Vote Mafia. Or something else entirely, if you were interested. I technically have Sprg [Of] Hate on the backburner, but I'm pretty sure it simmered to death. Yeah, probably all blackened and stuff.
Anyone interested in those afterward?
If you promise not to disappear like you did in BYOR14.
Post by: webadict on November 24, 2020, 08:57:01 pm
Post by: TricMagic on November 24, 2020, 09:36:11 pm
Post by: RoseHeart on December 05, 2020, 03:12:52 am
Post by: FallacyofUrist on December 29, 2020, 02:46:54 pm
Replace that with Mostly Vanilla Mafia 2.
Once Wuba's BYOR 15 is done, either me or Roseheart can run a game.
I've mainly been thinking that Mostly Vanilla Mafia 1 was a great concept - creating a game where everyone has some sort of power role, and the roles mostly fit into vanilla grounds with small twists and oddities. It's also relatively newbie-friendly due to not being utterly bonkers and unpredictable like the BYORs tend to be.
Post by: webadict on December 29, 2020, 03:04:04 pm
I've mainly been thinking that Mostly Vanilla Mafia 1 was a great concept - creating a game where everyone has some sort of power role, and the roles mostly fit into vanilla grounds with small twists and oddities. It's also relatively newbie-friendly due to not being utterly bonkers and unpredictable like the BYORs tend to be.My game is balanced, I swear.
On the edge of a knife. While everyone's jumping.
Post by: Vector on December 29, 2020, 05:39:18 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on December 29, 2020, 05:40:06 pm
Post by: IcyTea31 on December 29, 2020, 05:42:58 pm
Post by: webadict on December 29, 2020, 05:58:04 pm
Post by: Vector on December 29, 2020, 05:58:49 pm
I think someone else running a game does sound great! I'll take anything.
YES. Let's meet on the battlefield once more :3
Post by: webadict on December 29, 2020, 06:16:00 pm
You're gonna be eating those words with lemon juice.I think someone else running a game does sound great! I'll take anything.
YES. Let's meet on the battlefield once more :3
Post by: Vector on December 29, 2020, 06:30:57 pm
You're gonna be eating those words with lemon juice.I think someone else running a game does sound great! I'll take anything.
YES. Let's meet on the battlefield once more :3
squeeze of lemon never hurt nothing
Post by: TricMagic on December 29, 2020, 06:49:10 pm
I kinda want to try running another game. With Mamobo as cohost for vote tally.
Post by: webadict on December 29, 2020, 06:58:24 pm
Gathers Mafia of CooksMamobo will always help out anyone in need! And as soon as I actually get around to hosting it and finishing everything on it, it can run remotely without my assistance.
I kinda want to try running another game. With Mamobo as cohost for vote tally.
Post by: Skynet on January 01, 2021, 09:59:39 am
Should I start signups now? Or put the game in the queue and wait until the current BYOR is complete?
Post by: hector13 on January 01, 2021, 02:15:58 pm
Post by: Skynet on January 01, 2021, 03:56:34 pm
As far as I’m aware there are a few games ready to go. FallacyofUrist expressed interest in doing a game, roseheart is apparently ahead of the in the queue, and I’m pretty sure Shakerag had an idea of something before BP3 and BYOR15.
Understood. Thanks for letting me know. I'll wait in the queue then.
Post by: Vector on January 05, 2021, 08:08:36 pm
I'm thinking about running a small game with a bit of flavor. Just making my presence known. It'll be a few months before I'm ready to do it but that means I should sign up now.
Post by: webadict on January 05, 2021, 08:12:30 pm
Post by: hector13 on January 05, 2021, 08:28:02 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on January 05, 2021, 08:30:38 pm
The most intensely cursed 5-man I've ever seen. (https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Won%27t_You_Be_My_Neighbor%3F)
Post by: webadict on January 05, 2021, 08:42:37 pm
Some 5p games:
Vengeful Mafia (https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Vengeful_Mafia)
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Jungle of Bullshit (https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jungle_of_Bullshit)
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Some 3p games:
SS3 (https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=SS3)
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
The One I Cannot Kill (https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=The_One_I_Cannot_Kill)
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Vector on January 05, 2021, 08:55:03 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on January 05, 2021, 09:08:58 pm
I could probably run some silly 5-man I pulled off of mafiascum or something.This sounds amazing.
The most intensely cursed 5-man I've ever seen. (https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Won%27t_You_Be_My_Neighbor%3F)
Post by: webadict on January 05, 2021, 09:09:51 pm
That sounds like way too much work.I could probably run some silly 5-man I pulled off of mafiascum or something.This sounds amazing.
The most intensely cursed 5-man I've ever seen. (https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Won%27t_You_Be_My_Neighbor%3F)
Post by: webadict on January 05, 2021, 09:13:06 pm
Interesting. When it's my turn, I would like to run a The One I Cannot Kill.I would literally play anything right now, so I don't see small games being an issue.
Post by: Toaster on January 05, 2021, 11:55:49 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on January 06, 2021, 12:16:10 am
Post by: Vector on January 06, 2021, 01:23:40 am
Interesting. When it's my turn, I would like to run a The One I Cannot Kill.I would literally play anything right now, so I don't see small games being an issue.
I definitely do not have the time right now LOL, I am hoping that 2 or 3 people want to make other small games first.
I personally have a preference for "slim closed" setups, stuff like the old color mafia, vote mafia, whatever. a little mafia amuse-bouche. But I also think that a palate-cleanser of a mostly vanilla would help to settle my anxious stomach.
Post by: Toaster on January 06, 2021, 01:31:08 am
What is the current state of the queue, anyway?
Post by: 4maskwolf on January 06, 2021, 08:45:10 am
Post by: TricMagic on January 06, 2021, 08:47:14 am
Ninja'd even here?
Post by: webadict on January 06, 2021, 09:38:30 am
Post by: hector13 on January 06, 2021, 02:12:33 pm
I’ll do Vengeful Mafia, as I think a handful of those have been run on the board before, and it seems easy enough.
Do y’all want a relatively short game, say 48-72 hour days, or a bit longer, say 120 hour (or longer :o) days? Hammers would be in effect for both, and no extensions since they’re usually awful.
Post by: webadict on January 06, 2021, 02:30:08 pm
Post by: hector13 on January 06, 2021, 04:08:48 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 06, 2021, 05:36:22 pm
For the big game to replace BYOR 15, who’s up next for that? The beginner mafia is traditionally in its own separate queue due to being intended for a different crowd than the main games, and with D3 heading towards its conclusion it’s not a bad time to get setups going.If roseheart doesn't decide to take priority, I can run Mostly Vanilla Mafia 2. I'll defer to them if they have their own ideas though, since they queued up first.
Post by: Mephansteras on January 06, 2021, 06:49:30 pm
Beginners are in their own category.
Small games are fine as long as they have the players they can run.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 06, 2021, 07:46:38 pm
Post by: RoseHeart on January 06, 2021, 11:51:53 pm
Post by: notquitethere on January 07, 2021, 01:04:36 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 07, 2021, 08:09:41 pm
I probably will not be ready to host my vanilla mafia, for the better part of a month. Atleast not for a few weeks.I'll probably run Mostly Vanilla Mafia 2 first, then (unless BYOR 15 lasts a loooooot longer).
Post by: Vector on January 10, 2021, 06:43:03 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 10, 2021, 07:16:22 pm
Post by: Vector on January 10, 2021, 07:17:32 pm
Post by: webadict on January 10, 2021, 08:07:14 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on January 11, 2021, 09:59:16 am
Post by: webadict on January 11, 2021, 10:27:05 am
Unless anyone has any objections I'll put Vengeful 13 into signups, to tide people over until the next big game runs.I use my power to veto objections. Do it.
Post by: 4maskwolf on January 11, 2021, 10:45:51 am
Well I suppose.Unless anyone has any objections I'll put Vengeful 13 into signups, to tide people over until the next big game runs.I use my power to veto objections. Do it.
Vengeful 13 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=177868.0) is now in signups.
Post by: TricMagic on January 11, 2021, 10:46:36 am
Post by: Vector on January 12, 2021, 09:03:25 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 12, 2021, 09:18:09 pm
Post by: webadict on January 12, 2021, 09:23:14 pm
Any objections to me making Mostly Vanilla Mafia 2 the next 'big' game? I definitely don't expect to get as many players as BYOR 15 did, since I'm not an infamous super-skilled game mod like Wuba-sensei is, but it's been a while since my last game run, I've grown a lot, and I think I can handle making a game that's good for both new players and veterans.You only get skilled and infamous by trying. I'd join it.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 12, 2021, 09:28:59 pm
Post by: Vector on January 12, 2021, 09:40:33 pm
Post by: webadict on January 12, 2021, 09:45:23 pm
I think the best move you can make in balancing a game is to start small and work outward. Every change you make affects every previous change, as well, so you need to always go back and consider what happens with each piece that is added or removed. It's a lot like DMing, and if you ever run a tabletop game, that's almost like practice in itself.
If you want ideas, the best thing I can recommend is to steal ones you like. You can always tweak them to fit what you're feeling, but you never have to come up with one that is new. I think a lot of my favorite mechanics in a game come from ideas I've seen in other games that I loved.
Focus on the things in Mafia that you love the most, and make them cool in your own way. The hard part is limiting yourself to what you can comfortably accomplish, but you learn that by hitting your limits.
Just focus on being yourself and doing what you can do. I don't try to play like Webadict (or dakarian, or ...). We don't need 10 duplicate Webadicts to run games, we need Webadict and 9 other distinct people who all talk to and learn from each other.This is also good advice.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 12, 2021, 09:58:14 pm
Meph: I'm putting Mostly Vanilla Mafia 2 into signups.
Post by: webadict on January 12, 2021, 10:16:37 pm
Well I've been hitting my limits. Let's see if I can do better this time. I want to make a game that everyone will remember in a good way.Hmm... That's definitely tricky. I think for the most part you should aim for a game that you're happy with. I'm not saying to forsake the other players, but sometimes a game is memorable for reasons outside your control. That's just how it is when you moderate.
I wish I could help you out further than that!
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 12, 2021, 10:19:02 pm
Post by: TricMagic on January 13, 2021, 10:04:43 am
Post by: Toaster on January 13, 2021, 09:47:19 pm
I, on a whim, went back and looked at my host history; I have hosted fifteen games, running the gamut from Beginner Mafia to Bring Your Own
Spoiler: Data, for completion (click to show/hide)
In looking at it, I seem to be the guy who likes to host a variety of gametypes to see what sticks. Roguelike, in particular, tends to have experimental alignment setups and frequently has not had a traditional mafia team.
I do have a game I never did get to run (Bad Dudes Mafia) that is a setup I designed that requires 13 players. I'd love to run it, but I'm not 100% convinced I could get 13; that's what happened last time. Anyway, I'd totally be down to host a game once my turn rolled around.
Post by: Vector on January 13, 2021, 10:00:08 pm
I do have a game I never did get to run (Bad Dudes Mafia) that is a setup I designed that requires 13 players. I'd love to run it, but I'm not 100% convinced I could get 13; that's what happened last time. Anyway, I'd totally be down to host a game once my turn rolled around.
Whoo!
I'm definitely not up to playing more than one game right now, and probably need some time between most games, but it's exciting to see stuff happening around here. ~mafia~
Post by: Toaster on January 13, 2021, 10:03:08 pm
Post by: webadict on January 14, 2021, 11:58:30 am
If it ever gets to a point where it can run a 3p game, we're in the money!
Post by: 4maskwolf on January 14, 2021, 12:17:10 pm
Yeah, I honestly would love to co-host a game instead of straight-up run one. I think I come up with some okay ideas and absolutely ridiculous balancing, but I am just terrible at upkeep. My hope is that Mamobo can run games and also keep track of all abilities so that moderators don't have to, and if they have ideas, they can be implemented in it.
If it ever gets to a point where it can run a 3p game, we're in the money!
Post by: webadict on January 14, 2021, 12:50:05 pm
Eh... Maybe. It's really a two-parter where I make setups and learn Python at the same time. How do they make setups?Yeah, I honestly would love to co-host a game instead of straight-up run one. I think I come up with some okay ideas and absolutely ridiculous balancing, but I am just terrible at upkeep. My hope is that Mamobo can run games and also keep track of all abilities so that moderators don't have to, and if they have ideas, they can be implemented in it.
If it ever gets to a point where it can run a 3p game, we're in the money!Have you tried migrating to Mafia Universe? Their forum software would handle all of the hard stuff for you and you'd just have to build setups and get them approved.
Post by: 4maskwolf on January 14, 2021, 12:57:22 pm
I'll be honest, I don't run games over there so I'm not really sure, but the automod is pretty robust. It wouldn't be able to handle anything like a BYOR (then again, what would be able to handle BYOR 15) but any standard-style setup it can pretty much run on its own without outside input. It's also useable for nonstandard setups where it can run votecounts on demand for you and stuff. It's actually robust enough that in simple enough setups it can run the entire game to the point where the person who set up the game can also play in itEh... Maybe. It's really a two-parter where I make setups and learn Python at the same time. How do they make setups?Yeah, I honestly would love to co-host a game instead of straight-up run one. I think I come up with some okay ideas and absolutely ridiculous balancing, but I am just terrible at upkeep. My hope is that Mamobo can run games and also keep track of all abilities so that moderators don't have to, and if they have ideas, they can be implemented in it.
If it ever gets to a point where it can run a 3p game, we're in the money!Have you tried migrating to Mafia Universe? Their forum software would handle all of the hard stuff for you and you'd just have to build setups and get them approved.
Unfortunately, it's integrated into their forum software so we can't just use it over here.
Post by: Secretdorf on January 17, 2021, 09:33:03 am
Post by: notquitethere on January 17, 2021, 11:48:29 am
Post by: Secretdorf on January 17, 2021, 12:29:45 pm
Post by: Luckyowl on January 17, 2021, 12:32:07 pm
I meant if anyone was interested in running a low player mafia like vengeful, as there is still some time before mostly vanilla starts. If not then if I ran one(probably 3p), will anybody interested in playing?
sure, but you better make me mafia.
Post by: Secretdorf on January 17, 2021, 12:35:09 pm
Post by: Secretdorf on January 17, 2021, 12:52:09 pm
Edit: Is anyone interested in playing or running? >:(
Edit2: If anyone hosts any such game sign me up.
Post by: hector13 on January 17, 2021, 01:52:34 pm
Post by: Vector on January 17, 2021, 01:56:41 pm
Or try a different 5P setup.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 17, 2021, 02:16:16 pm
Post by: hector13 on January 17, 2021, 02:19:12 pm
Or at least easy to solve, that was a while ago though.
If people are interested I can run a quick 3 player game prior to your one starting though.
Post by: Secretdorf on January 17, 2021, 02:19:55 pm
Post by: webadict on January 17, 2021, 04:41:07 pm
As just a guess, I imagine that people are a little tired of these drawn-out LYLOs that we've had for Vengeful 14 & 15 + BYOR 15. It could be a good idea to just kind of ... let that relax a little.It sounds like a Night game focused 5p is what you're suggesting. I... have an idea...
Or try a different 5P setup.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 17, 2021, 10:29:03 pm
F11 Beginner's Mafia became Think Twice Beginner's Mafia (and is completed).
Vengeful Mafia 13 has completed.
SS3 Mini Mafia has started.
Mostly Vanilla Mafia 2 is... still in signups, but we've reached the minimum player count at the very least. It's going to be open to signups for a bit longer.
Post by: hector13 on January 17, 2021, 10:34:18 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 17, 2021, 10:41:17 pm
Post by: Vector on January 18, 2021, 01:26:24 am
You can do as you please, but this is the wisdom collected from the old days. *nod nod*
Post by: 4maskwolf on January 18, 2021, 04:02:27 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 20, 2021, 07:21:09 pm
SS3 Mini Mafia has ended.
Think Twice ended a while ago.
Post by: webadict on January 20, 2021, 07:27:07 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on January 20, 2021, 08:28:04 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on January 22, 2021, 01:40:45 pm
Also, NQT wanted to add CYOM Redux to the queue a couple pages back.
Post by: Vector on January 27, 2021, 07:34:32 pm
Post by: TricMagic on January 27, 2021, 07:46:28 pm
I am like this close to asking people to put something into signups ._.
I can run a 3 player game? https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=The_One_I_Cannot_Kill (https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=The_One_I_Cannot_Kill)
Post by: webadict on January 27, 2021, 07:59:58 pm
Post by: TricMagic on January 27, 2021, 08:01:20 pm
Post by: webadict on January 27, 2021, 08:05:55 pm
I'd be willing to run a 4-6p ONUW if people were interested. It'd be One Night and One Day, so around 5 days to play?
Post by: webadict on January 27, 2021, 08:07:00 pm
Post by: TricMagic on January 27, 2021, 08:08:39 pm
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=177981.msg8241229#msg8241229 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=177981.msg8241229#msg8241229)
Post by: webadict on January 29, 2021, 04:12:31 pm
Post by: Vector on February 01, 2021, 01:59:33 pm
Post by: webadict on February 01, 2021, 02:53:32 pm
Post by: TricMagic on February 01, 2021, 02:54:19 pm
Post by: Vector on February 01, 2021, 02:56:33 pm
Is roseheart even ready yet?
Skynet game when
Post by: webadict on February 01, 2021, 03:07:14 pm
As a note, I still have a three-player than needs one more player. Short game while you wait for the next big one.I was aying a game before that, but fine, I'll join.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 01, 2021, 03:46:44 pm
Post by: Caz on February 01, 2021, 04:02:22 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on February 01, 2021, 04:04:57 pm
Post by: Vector on February 01, 2021, 04:07:48 pm
Post by: Caz on February 01, 2021, 04:12:14 pm
Larger community and a lot more multitabling back then, I think.
I'm sure I can play five games at once JUST AS WELL as I play one game.
ah, a late bloomer.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 01, 2021, 05:08:15 pm
As for what the mini-setups will be? Maybe I'll try a Vengeful Mafia myself, experiment with flavor. It's also been a long time since we've seen a proper bastard mod here, and I have this nice idea for Shia LaBeouf Mafia which would be 7 players or so...
But are there any particular open or semi-open setups y'all would be interested in seeing me run?
Post by: Skynet on February 02, 2021, 08:43:59 am
Is roseheart even ready yet?
Skynet game when
Skynet's Seduction has been in the queue for a while, right after roseheart's vanilla game. If roseheart's game won't run for a while, I'll be more than happy to run Skynet's Seduction.
Post by: Toaster on February 02, 2021, 12:33:47 pm
Post by: webadict on February 02, 2021, 12:57:44 pm
I could always do another Roguelike.If I get bored, I could make an item generator. Just needs some specifications on what you're looking for
Post by: notquitethere on February 02, 2021, 01:10:20 pm
Post by: TricMagic on February 02, 2021, 04:51:03 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 02, 2021, 07:23:14 pm
I'd love to play in another roguelike. Definitely spiritually akin to the kind of game I run with the CYOMs.I've never been in a Roguelike Mafia, but it seems like one of those historic series that I'd love a place in.
Post by: Toaster on February 02, 2021, 09:15:46 pm
I'll look over the item list (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=80808.0) and see if it can stand to be retooled. It probably can.
Post by: Skynet on February 02, 2021, 11:29:24 pm
Post by: Caz on February 03, 2021, 08:36:19 am
+1 to anything. I need a fix of mafia craziness.
+1 to this +1
Post by: Secretdorf on February 04, 2021, 07:05:11 am
Post by: notquitethere on February 04, 2021, 07:31:31 am
Out of curiousity, has there ever been a mafia with third party players only, excluding bastard paranormal 3?The closest I've seen was Toon Mafia 7 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=125058.msg4458853#msg4458853) which had majority 3rd party players. Town still won.
Post by: Skynet on February 04, 2021, 07:38:44 am
These two setups are somewhat close though...
- Third-Party Mafia (though there is a genuine Mafia team and a Vanilla Townie, most of the roles are traditional third-party roles, and you can argue the Mafia and the Townie are also "third-party" as well in this setup...) - 1 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=48913.msg1008238#msg1008238), 2 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=65002.0), 3 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=85996.msg2324618#msg2324618)
- Third-World Mafia (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=31457.msg439247#msg439247) - only one Townie vigilante and everyone else belongs to rival Mafia groups - the Townie was at a disadvantage though so I wish I had given him more power.
Post by: Persus13 on February 04, 2021, 11:56:48 am
Out of curiousity, has there ever been a mafia with third party players only, excluding bastard paranormal 3?I'm sure there's been several, but the only one I can think of is BYOR 13, which had no scum team, but 5 SKs.
Post by: Toaster on February 04, 2021, 12:30:50 pm
Out of curiousity, has there ever been a mafia with third party players only, excluding bastard paranormal 3?
A couple Roguelikes did.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
10-11 player games, to me, are a great number for experimental gametypes. 9 and 12-13 are obvious for 2/3 scum, but I've always felt that 10 and 11 were hard to balance. Ergo, ripe for experimentation.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 05, 2021, 07:43:35 pm
(Skynet's Seduction is finally in signups, at least.)
Post by: Tomasque on February 07, 2021, 01:56:56 am
Post by: Vector on February 07, 2021, 07:04:55 pm
I finally thought of a Good (at the very least, definitely different?) idea for a game with new flavor/mechanics. I'm going to keep developing it for a bit and think about How Many Characters, etc., but I am delighted to be able to say that I actually have something.
Post by: RoseHeart on February 08, 2021, 04:44:22 am
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 11, 2021, 02:55:57 pm
What's the next big game?
(I'll probably run something small and experimental pretty soon, to help fill the void.)
Post by: 4maskwolf on February 11, 2021, 02:56:53 pm
Meph: Skynet's Seduction has ended.Either NQT or Rose is up next.
What's the next big game?
(I'll probably run something small and experimental pretty soon, to help fill the void.)
Post by: TricMagic on February 11, 2021, 03:00:43 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 11, 2021, 03:05:59 pm
Either NQT or Rose is up next.Doesn't look like Rose intends to put theirs up yet, so it'll probably be NQT and his absurd setup. Could be fun, though.
Toramasque's game should have reached the Baking stage.Should start pretty soon, by my estimation.
Are there any preferences to the types of mini-setup people would like to see? To avoid getting in the way of the bigger ones, the most players I'll go up to is 7. I'm wondering if a Fallacy implementation of Wuba's classic Vote Mafia would go well.
Post by: notquitethere on February 11, 2021, 03:40:51 pm
Post by: webadict on February 11, 2021, 07:36:48 pm
Post by: Vector on February 11, 2021, 07:44:19 pm
Put the Bastard Mod You Only Have One Shot into the Queue, but it can have negative priority behind someone else if they want it.
*grabby hands*
Post by: ToonyMan on February 11, 2021, 07:48:12 pm
I think we should have a more friendly game next at least, since some new players have shown interest in joining a game.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 11, 2021, 08:08:29 pm
... I might finally get to be a townie.
Post by: webadict on February 11, 2021, 08:25:01 pm
*smacks hand* Ne touche pas!Put the Bastard Mod You Only Have One Shot into the Queue, but it can have negative priority behind someone else if they want it.
*grabby hands*
No more bastard games.Yes more bastard games.
I think we should have a more friendly game next at least, since some new players have shown interest in joining a game.
But, also, I think it's NQT's game up next or roseheart's? Magia Mafia might be confusing, but it's a BYORlike, so, while confusing, it's still a game new players can join.
Post by: notquitethere on February 12, 2021, 02:30:20 pm
Post by: webadict on February 18, 2021, 11:37:33 am
Post by: Mephansteras on February 18, 2021, 11:47:10 am
I think I'll put another Supernatural into the queue. Haven't run one of those in a while.
Post by: webadict on February 18, 2021, 12:04:12 pm
Roseheart if they're ready. If not, looks like Lords of Mafia is next after that.You should make a gametype called Paranatural or Supernormal where you make incredibly unbalanced setups out of both rolesets.
I think I'll put another Supernatural into the queue. Haven't run one of those in a while.
Post by: Mephansteras on February 18, 2021, 12:39:13 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on February 18, 2021, 12:48:50 pm
Post by: webadict on February 18, 2021, 12:53:52 pm
Supernormal sounds very balanced.Supernormal is the gametype where you have to decide if anything is even wrong.
Post by: Persus13 on February 18, 2021, 01:09:28 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on February 18, 2021, 01:10:13 pm
At the start of Supernormal a mafia team A and/or mafia team B may be created.Supernormal sounds very balanced.Supernormal is the gametype where you have to decide if anything is even wrong.
Everyone needs to vote whether the town are alone or there's a hidden mafia team A and/or B with them.
Town win if they guess correctly.
Mafia Team A win if Town guess Team B or alone.
Mafia Team B win if Town guess Team A or alone.
Yes mafia can win together if they both exist but they can't communicate with each other privately for N0 or The Day.
I would start with a Night 0 with some power roles(!) but no kills.
How about Paranormal v. Supernatural: Requiem?Sounds sick. Alien vs Predator.
Post by: Vector on February 18, 2021, 02:05:27 pm
Post by: webadict on February 18, 2021, 02:12:13 pm
Post by: Vector on February 18, 2021, 02:16:20 pm
Post by: Superdorf on February 18, 2021, 02:25:55 pm
Post by: TricMagic on February 18, 2021, 02:40:36 pm
Post by: webadict on February 18, 2021, 03:32:07 pm
I meanwhile had an idea for a 10 player game I'd like to put in sign-ups. Would anyone like to review it?I assume you mean put in the Queue? It's a little too big to not queue unless it's a short game.
Post by: TricMagic on February 18, 2021, 04:01:56 pm
Sure.I meanwhile had an idea for a 10 player game I'd like to put in sign-ups. Would anyone like to review it?I assume you mean put in the Queue? It's a little too big to not queue unless it's a short game.
Post by: ToonyMan on February 18, 2021, 04:30:02 pm
I'm tempted to put together a 5-player Vengeful, quick and simple. A breather between complicated experiments.Either that or I want to try a one Day version of YTTD Card Mafia with 5-6 players.
Post by: Superdorf on February 18, 2021, 04:33:39 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on February 18, 2021, 06:39:05 pm
I don't have the flavor written up yet for Lords of Mafia, I wasn't expecting my turn to come up so quickly and have been somewhat busy the past week. Might put it up this weekend if Roseheart doesn't put his game up, he's technically first in line.
Post by: Vector on February 18, 2021, 07:48:31 pm
Only part of my performance I'm proud of from that game was correctly being read as someone who could snow out the town with the depth of my manufactured, scummy emotion
only part
Post by: Vector on February 18, 2021, 07:51:44 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on February 18, 2021, 08:04:20 pm
Post by: webadict on February 18, 2021, 08:55:28 pm
PS: I'm requesting that the next big game we run be open setup or, IDK, one of those old midpower games like Vote Mafia. Something run by an experienced mod who isn't pulling out all the stops (looking at you, Web). I think it would be good for forum morale.Hmm, well, I've currently got Magic Mafia, but I could make it a Vote Mafia instead if people wanted.
Post by: webadict on February 19, 2021, 08:51:41 am
Truly sad. Oh well, I'm pretty sure it will be fine regardless.
Post by: ToonyMan on February 19, 2021, 09:05:45 am
Post by: webadict on February 19, 2021, 09:31:37 am
What happened to Vote Mafia 8? It never went past Night 1.I... don't know... Huh.
Post by: Superdorf on February 20, 2021, 01:16:25 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 20, 2021, 02:52:55 pm
Post by: Vector on February 20, 2021, 09:03:32 pm
Otherwise, I'd ask Web to run either a vote mafia or a Very Parsimonious BYOR. Maybe a BSER to shake things up. I dunno. I love the new game types we're doing but gracious me, we really need some stuff that's more, I dunno, established.
Toony, you wanna run another Toon Mafia at some point? I always liked your games.
Post by: ToonyMan on February 20, 2021, 09:39:36 pm
What do people think about Supernatural 10 jumping the queue?Sounds good. I don't know what Roseheart's plans are and 4mask didn't expect CYOM4 to end so quickly and seems busy.
EDIT:
Besides those two we've got:
Magic Mafia MM
Toaster's [TBD]
You Only Have One Shot
Supernatural 10
So, what do Webadict and Toaster have to say?
Otherwise, I'd ask Web to run either a vote mafia or a Very Parsimonious BYOR. Maybe a BSER to shake things up. I dunno. I love the new game types we're doing but gracious me, we really need some stuff that's more, I dunno, established.Vote Mafia would also be good. I've been in every Vote Mafia besides 8 which mysteriously died in the night.
Toony, you wanna run another Toon Mafia at some point? I always liked your games.Maybe. I don't want to run closed games anymore though. I'd prefer hosting a series that wasn't named after me too...
Post by: webadict on February 20, 2021, 09:45:25 pm
What do people think about Supernatural 10 jumping the queue?Simple BYOR was a game type I ran once. And Magic Mafia is technically just a little less powerhungry BYOR
Otherwise, I'd ask Web to run either a vote mafia or a Very Parsimonious BYOR. Maybe a BSER to shake things up. I dunno. I love the new game types we're doing but gracious me, we really need some stuff that's more, I dunno, established.
Toony, you wanna run another Toon Mafia at some point? I always liked your games.
But let's talk abour the true issue. I mean... the queue itself was meant to fix the issue of too many games while also allowing moderators that didn't have much chance to run a game a chance to run one withour conflicting with more popular mods.
We could migrate towards a system where priority is given towards what players want and not what moderators want. I don't see that as an issue yet, but we will hit the old issue again sooner or later. We just need to be cognizant of that if we do change the system.
@ToonyMan: Vote Mafia 8 died because you weren't in it and my brother was.
Post by: webadict on February 20, 2021, 09:51:11 pm
If y'all want to vote on what game we play next, I'm game. Meph can certainly take my spot if people want it. Or I can run a different game, too. Whatever the players want.
Post by: Vector on February 20, 2021, 11:08:11 pm
I like the queue. And I guess I didn't realize that Magic Mafia was a BYOR-like, that sounds fun.
Post by: Toaster on February 21, 2021, 12:06:04 am
Post by: ToonyMan on February 21, 2021, 10:35:16 am
I am 100% okay with Paranormal or Supernatural jumping the queue. I don't know if I'll play because my focus is poo, but they're always good games.Since everybody is busy or passing the baton to Meph let's do it.
Otherwise, if Meph doesn't want to host right now I wouldn't mind starting signups tomorrow for my Raging Loup (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=134925.msg8250993#msg8250993) game.
It's a simple open-setup with strong emphasis on Day game.
EDIT:
"Team whatever that was."What are your plans for Lords of Mafia? Are you good this week?
I don't have the flavor written up yet for Lords of Mafia, I wasn't expecting my turn to come up so quickly and have been somewhat busy the past week. Might put it up this weekend if Roseheart doesn't put his game up, he's technically first in line.
Post by: Mephansteras on February 21, 2021, 12:37:12 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on February 21, 2021, 12:45:42 pm
Yeah, I can push Supernatural up. Won't take too long to get things going, so I can probably have sign-ups open sometime later today.Excellent. Can you add Raging Loup to the queue then?
Post by: Mephansteras on February 21, 2021, 05:32:24 pm
Post by: RoseHeart on February 21, 2021, 07:16:03 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on February 22, 2021, 07:23:26 pm
Post by: Superdorf on February 23, 2021, 03:52:50 pm
Alternatively, I could add a (fairly simple) game to the queue. NSBM 7 or some such.
Post by: Mephansteras on March 02, 2021, 02:16:22 pm
Post by: Vector on March 02, 2021, 02:32:51 pm
Post by: Persus13 on March 02, 2021, 02:42:27 pm
Post by: Toaster on March 03, 2021, 10:50:57 pm
Post by: webadict on March 03, 2021, 11:01:17 pm
I have created a Bastard Vengeful setup, a five player game based on the Vengeful gametype. The only running game right now is Supernatural 10. Is anyone else planning on starting a small game, or should I go ahead and put it in signups?I think technically the only one running is TricMagic's which is in sign-ups.
Post by: Toaster on March 03, 2021, 11:03:50 pm
Post by: TricMagic on March 04, 2021, 08:55:23 am
Post by: ToonyMan on March 08, 2021, 04:39:03 pm
The setup is very similar but with more stuff and I'd rather be a player then host.
Post by: webadict on March 10, 2021, 03:14:52 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on March 15, 2021, 02:02:43 am
They'd be flavorful but the flavor wouldn't be relevant, like the BMs I ran years ago.
Post by: Vector on March 15, 2021, 02:25:44 am
Post by: Secretdorf on March 15, 2021, 03:04:06 am
Post by: Toaster on March 15, 2021, 11:36:46 am
Post by: webadict on March 15, 2021, 11:37:58 am
Give is a cool name like Groovy Mafia.
Post by: Jim Groovester on March 15, 2021, 02:09:00 pm
Throw 'TBD Groovester Mafia' into the queue then.
Post by: Toaster on March 15, 2021, 02:53:44 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on March 15, 2021, 09:42:24 pm
Put FBYOR 5 into the queue for me? I think I've learned some lessons from running Mostly Vanilla Mafia 2 that I can use to run a much less broken game than the previous 3 FBYORs.
Post by: webadict on March 15, 2021, 10:06:51 pm
Fool's Mafia has ended.Every game a moderator runs is a learning experience. I never learn how broken things are until I try them!
Put FBYOR 5 into the queue for me? I think I've learned some lessons from running Mostly Vanilla Mafia 2 that I can use to run a much less broken game than the previous 3 FBYORs.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on March 15, 2021, 10:20:35 pm
-If something you add is cool but makes you have to do ten times as much work, maybe you shouldn't add it.
-Don't have too much death prevention.
-Putting a player in both the town and mafia at the same time is a bad idea.
-It's perfectly fine to go against a Shakeragian role submission's name if you can't figure out a way of making it work.
-Non-deterministic stuff means more work.
-NPCs are a fun idea in theory but in practice they mean more work.
-Try not to make assumptions about how a game will go, or you'll get a poisoner who can only poison on the last phase of the game.
-Your players will make assumptions about your setup. They won't always be right.
If only I knew these things when I started modding.
Post by: notquitethere on March 16, 2021, 01:51:25 am
Post by: Secretdorf on March 16, 2021, 07:38:32 am
Post by: webadict on March 16, 2021, 08:28:12 am
Post by: Toaster on March 16, 2021, 11:53:51 am
Post by: Caz on March 16, 2021, 01:54:56 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on March 16, 2021, 02:35:37 pm
Have I played long enough to run a game now? I have some ideas.Seeing as you've played here longer than I have, I'm going to go out on a limb and say "yes, definitely".
Post by: Mephansteras on March 16, 2021, 02:36:41 pm
Post by: Vector on March 16, 2021, 03:01:25 pm
Have I played long enough to run a game now? I have some ideas.
Yes.
Post by: webadict on March 16, 2021, 03:23:23 pm
Post by: TricMagic on March 16, 2021, 04:45:01 pm
Post by: Caz on March 16, 2021, 05:28:30 pm
(And, thanks for your enthusiasm.)
Post by: Caz on March 16, 2021, 05:34:03 pm
How long would you have waited to try and run a game?
I kept thinking about it but figured i'd melt it somehow.
Post by: Shakerag on March 17, 2021, 08:36:02 am
Watch... a shakeragian poisoner. Does shakeragian have something to do with shakerag? ::)
Boo.
Post by: Caz on March 17, 2021, 12:00:15 pm
Watch... a shakeragian poisoner. Does shakeragian have something to do with shakerag? ::)
Boo.
It lives.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on March 17, 2021, 08:13:37 pm
Post by: TolyK on March 19, 2021, 11:36:35 am
can we theorycraft a cult or kingmkaer setup that doesn't suck somehow?
I'm really interested in ways to balance Cult roles, either as standalone scum or alongside SK/Mafia/whatever factions.
I'd definitely ask for spoilspec in Groovy Mafia.
Things I've learned:These were basically the reason why KYOSN took so long/so much energy to sort out. :P
...
-If something you add is cool but makes you have to do ten times as much work, maybe you shouldn't add it.
-Don't have too much death prevention.
-Non-deterministic stuff means more work.
-NPCs are a fun idea in theory but in practice they mean more work.
...
...and culminated in Kill Your Own Shakerag Now (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=145144.0), a game so ridiculously over the top that it took the mod several months to figure out who won.There it is. :D
PPE: Oh, I didn't realize this isn't the banter thread - well I can't delete this. Oops.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on March 27, 2021, 03:11:30 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on March 30, 2021, 03:12:55 pm
It's given me some neat setup ideas, even if it didn't last very long.
Post by: TricMagic on March 30, 2021, 03:24:33 pm
Eh. I've posted Election for sign-ups. Not your normal game.
Post by: notquitethere on April 02, 2021, 09:59:12 am
Post by: notquitethere on April 03, 2021, 11:52:39 am
Post by: FallacyofUrist on April 03, 2021, 05:58:22 pm
Post by: webadict on April 04, 2021, 11:17:35 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on April 05, 2021, 12:13:26 pm
I still have to write up the flavor for Lords of Mafia so if you want to run first I don't mind.
Post by: webadict on April 05, 2021, 12:23:53 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on April 05, 2021, 02:31:56 pm
Actually, I just checked and they were last active... today. So someone should probably shoot them a notification that their game is at the top of the queue.
You thought it was a secret message but it was me, Dio!
Post by: 4maskwolf on April 05, 2021, 02:34:53 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on April 05, 2021, 02:39:28 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on April 05, 2021, 02:41:57 pm
I'm honestly really excited for my next shot at running a BYOR. It's like, maybe I've finally learned enough about modding to make something worthy of this community in that format?
Post by: webadict on April 05, 2021, 02:44:51 pm
(webadict wants to move You Only Have One Shot, his bastard game, to the bottom of the queue)You never learn enough. You just fail a little bit less each time!
I'm honestly really excited for my next shot at running a BYOR. It's like, maybe I've finally learned enough about modding to make something worthy of this community in that format?
Post by: TricMagic on April 05, 2021, 02:52:52 pm
Failure to Success (https://youtu.be/nhQ8nvriQp0) Fallacy!(webadict wants to move You Only Have One Shot, his bastard game, to the bottom of the queue)You never learn enough. You just fail a little bit less each time!
I'm honestly really excited for my next shot at running a BYOR. It's like, maybe I've finally learned enough about modding to make something worthy of this community in that format?
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 05, 2021, 10:28:16 pm
...he says, boldly.
Post by: Toaster on April 05, 2021, 11:40:10 pm
Oh you mean Roguelike 7. Uhh... bump me back one spot, I've totally slacked on getting ready for it.
Post by: Vector on April 06, 2021, 01:29:57 am
I've been thinking about TBD Groovester Mafia now and then and could probably mash the accelerator on getting it ready to go if the people ahead of me in the queue aren't ready.
...he says, boldly.
grabbyhands!
says vector, grabbihandily
Post by: 4maskwolf on April 06, 2021, 08:56:45 am
I've been thinking about TBD Groovester Mafia now and then and could probably mash the accelerator on getting it ready to go if the people ahead of me in the queue aren't ready.Ooooooooooh...
...he says, boldly.
Post by: webadict on April 06, 2021, 09:39:42 am
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 06, 2021, 10:20:24 am
I will likely reach out for advice on balance and tuning the set up.
Can I be a disco dancer? Can it be the 70s? Does it randomly break out into a detective story?
It can be all of these things. Will it? Possibly.
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Well, I'm not going to wait too long for him to show up.
Post by: 4maskwolf on April 06, 2021, 10:26:14 am
Post by: webadict on April 06, 2021, 10:31:50 am
Only the Mafia Squad and their passion for crime-solving can stop them before the contagion runs loose.
Tonight on Mafia Squad: Luck Be Not A Malady Tonight.
Post by: ToonyMan on April 06, 2021, 10:36:20 am
Post by: Leafsnail on April 06, 2021, 11:30:51 am
Post by: TricMagic on April 06, 2021, 11:41:25 am
Post by: FallacyofUrist on April 06, 2021, 12:21:47 pm
Post by: TricMagic on April 06, 2021, 12:39:28 pm
Election Day has ended hilariously. If nobody else would like to take the mini-setup slot, I'll put my six-player mini setup Dreams of Elan into signups. Of course Caves of Dashar was pretty recent so I understand if someone else wants to run a mini-setup first.Very hilariously. It was fun watching.
Also, I'd like to be put in the Queue for running a Royal-style game. Specifically, Execution in the Palace. (Named Traitors in the Fortress)
Post by: Toaster on April 06, 2021, 01:35:05 pm
Election Day has ended hilariously. If nobody else would like to take the mini-setup slot, I'll put my six-player mini setup Dreams of Elan into signups. Of course Caves of Dashar was pretty recent so I understand if someone else wants to run a mini-setup first.
I think I was next, but I'm struggling to find my notes for the game (Vengeful Bastard) and this weekend is busy for me anyway. Go ahead and I'll do the next one.
Post by: TolyK on April 07, 2021, 06:36:21 am
Leafsnail is ahead of me so I'll wait for him to assert a claim but it's looking like there might be opportunity and interest for TBD Groovester Mafia. It's going to be a cult game if that tempers your enthusiasm at all.
I will likely reach out for advice on balance and tuning the set up.
I won't be able to play yet, but I could look over the setup if you're interested. :)
Post by: TolyK on April 07, 2021, 07:54:37 am
I've been steadily building a "mafia engine" to define setups and keep track of actions and the game state.
This is not tied to any particular medium (forum, IRL, chat app).
I've also borrowed/built on some of Wuba's Mamobo work to interface with bay12forums itself.
The game I want to run would be a small (5-7 player) "bring someone else's ability"-style game.
Each player (and maybe random people, too) would secretly suggest an ability or mechanic to add to the game.
The most sane/doable ones would be selected and implemented in the Mafia Engine.
Then, I would run the game using that setup via the engine.
It will take some time to implement and internally test the mechanics (several weeks, or even a month or two).
I would expect people to become unavailable, plus I would want a wider pool of ideas to choose from, so I'm planning to intentionally overbook (~10 player queue).
Would it be OK to start "signups" for such a tentative game?
Post by: TricMagic on April 07, 2021, 08:01:05 am
Post by: Mephansteras on April 07, 2021, 09:14:48 am
Would it be OK to start "signups" for such a tentative game?
Given the reason for such a long lag time between sign-ups and start, sure. Though you may run into issues of people having to bow out as life gets in the way. That's the usual problem with long sign-up periods.
Post by: RoseHeart on April 13, 2021, 01:57:18 pm
I've decided I got what I needed from working with Meph a few times. Thanks.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on April 13, 2021, 04:06:13 pm
Leafsnail's Gnosia is listed in the queue, but is actually currently in signups as Who Are The Gnosia, so the duplication should be taken out of the queue.
My mini-setup Dreams of Elan should be listed in the signups section.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 13, 2021, 04:59:09 pm
OP should be reasonably up to date at this point.
Post by: Vector on April 13, 2021, 09:07:53 pm
by veckle
this summer!!!
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 13, 2021, 09:28:37 pm
Planned games should have "Rusted Diadem" in it :V
by veckle
this summer!!!
Ohboy
Post by: TolyK on April 14, 2021, 03:27:31 am
Planned games should have "Rusted Diadem" in it :V
by veckle
this summer!!!
oh no
oh yes
Post by: FallacyofUrist on April 16, 2021, 05:35:06 pm
Hopefully two more players will come join Dreams of Elan so I can finally get that mini-setup out of the signups bin.
Post by: webadict on April 20, 2021, 01:33:11 pm
Post by: Persus13 on April 20, 2021, 08:58:25 pm
Post by: webadict on April 20, 2021, 09:21:19 pm
One Night Ultimate Werewolf?Yarr.
Post by: Secretdorf on April 21, 2021, 12:14:17 am
Post by: Persus13 on April 21, 2021, 08:37:38 am
Post by: webadict on April 21, 2021, 08:59:53 am
Post by: FallacyofUrist on April 21, 2021, 03:15:17 pm
The new Notable Games thread is now posted.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on April 24, 2021, 12:15:10 pm
One Night Ultimate Werewolf - Round 2 has started.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on April 30, 2021, 06:54:33 pm
Who Are The Gnosia has started.
I'm basically single-handedly keeping track of all game conditions and stuff. Honestly if you wanted me to manage the Games Threshold thread, I could take care of that.
Post by: EuchreJack on April 30, 2021, 08:24:49 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on April 30, 2021, 10:07:15 pm
One Night Ultimate Werewolf 2 has ended.
Who Are The Gnosia has started.
I'm basically single-handedly keeping track of all game conditions and stuff. Honestly if you wanted me to manage the Games Threshold thread, I could take care of that.
I'd be fine with that, unless someone has a good reason not to.
But in general I think it's best to have threads run by other people than me, since I can be backup on any of them as needed.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on May 06, 2021, 06:58:35 pm
Post by: webadict on May 06, 2021, 08:03:37 pm
Post by: TricMagic on May 06, 2021, 08:09:21 pm
Toaster or Jim Groovester!Is it determined yet?
Post by: Jim Groovester on May 06, 2021, 08:09:38 pm
Toaster or Jim Groovester!
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Post by: Mephansteras on May 06, 2021, 08:19:43 pm
Post by: Toaster on May 06, 2021, 09:31:25 pm
How much time do you need, Jim? I meant to revise some things for Roguelike before this happened, but I took some notes and didn't finish anything. Given how open the setup is, I'd like to put any major changes out for review before I actually change anything.
Alternatively, I could:
1) Change nothing and just go
2) Change what I want to change, but with little time for "formal review"
3) Change what I want to change, but delay starting until like next Sunday (5/16ish) or so.
Post by: webadict on May 07, 2021, 08:36:52 am
And if anyone has ideas for more roles, throw them at me.
Post by: Toaster on May 07, 2021, 08:46:07 am
Post by: Jim Groovester on May 07, 2021, 12:18:00 pm
How much time do you need, Jim? I meant to revise some things for Roguelike before this happened, but I took some notes and didn't finish anything. Given how open the setup is, I'd like to put any major changes out for review before I actually change anything.
I started putting thoughts to paper and realized major problems with the set up. If I focused on it I think putting it into sign ups next week would be too soon.
Post by: Toaster on May 07, 2021, 02:39:42 pm
We have space for a small game as well.
(I also had another game idea today while eating lunch: more on that later.)
Post by: webadict on May 07, 2021, 02:42:15 pm
Post by: EuchreJack on May 08, 2021, 10:25:55 pm
While I'd rather play in such a game, I'd be willing to take my turn hosting.
I may need some technical advice on setting up the quicktopic.
I'm considering a survivor style theme. Wrecked ship, crashed plane, that sort of thing.
Post by: Vector on May 12, 2021, 09:19:19 am
Post by: EuchreJack on May 12, 2021, 09:22:22 am
Didn't realize anything else was ready. Don't see anything else ready. But whatever, thread locked.
Post by: Mephansteras on May 12, 2021, 10:00:04 am
Post by: EuchreJack on May 12, 2021, 10:12:10 am
I can still add you to the queue, though, if you would like.
Yeah, please do so! Island Mafia shall not perish!
Post by: Vector on May 14, 2021, 10:45:30 pm
like a horse
Post by: Jim Groovester on May 15, 2021, 12:21:14 am
Cult games are hard to balance. I should do something easy instead, like a standard setup with a minor, mostly irrelevant mechanical inversion.
AlsoToasterisaheadofmesoIcan'trunmygameyetphew
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Toaster on May 15, 2021, 01:43:19 pm
And by today I mean it's up.
Post by: EuchreJack on May 20, 2021, 11:44:07 pm
Post by: Vector on May 21, 2021, 12:59:45 am
Post by: webadict on May 21, 2021, 09:46:11 am
What's going on with ONUW?Villagers won, I just got super busy.
Post by: EuchreJack on May 21, 2021, 10:23:51 pm
NP, but did I win?What's going on with ONUW?Villagers won, I just got super busy.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on May 27, 2021, 07:11:02 pm
Post by: prefuzek on June 02, 2021, 06:31:53 pm
Roles:
- 2 Humans - win when all robots are lynched
- 3-5 Robots - win when one human is dead, share a scumchat
Nightless, one vote to lynch, but robots may not vote for humans. If 72 hours pass without a lynch, the robots win. Essentially, the robots need to convince one human to lynch the other, while humans need to kill all the robots.
This setup works well in person, but humans usually win since knowing that the robots can't lynch humans is very helpful for scumhunting. I think it might be more balanced on forums when the robots have a scumchat - coordinating buses is super important for good robot play.
Note that since it's one vote to lynch, votes are essentially public day-kills.
I'd be happy to put it into signups whenever - I don't want to get in the way of Build Your Own Game or any other queued games though.
Post by: ToonyMan on June 02, 2021, 06:51:54 pm
Post by: prefuzek on June 10, 2021, 02:25:38 pm
Post by: TricMagic on June 10, 2021, 03:18:34 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on June 10, 2021, 07:43:06 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on June 10, 2021, 09:27:15 pm
Post by: Toaster on June 11, 2021, 01:42:45 am
Roguelike Mafia 7 has started.
And now it is finished. Thanks for playing!
Post by: prefuzek on June 11, 2021, 10:46:45 am
In the absence of other games, I'll put U, Robot into signups later today if nobody minds.Should I do this anyway? It seems like there's a bit of a lull in players, and this'll be quite a short game.
Post by: ToonyMan on June 11, 2021, 11:28:15 am
Do it.In the absence of other games, I'll put U, Robot into signups later today if nobody minds.Should I do this anyway? It seems like there's a bit of a lull in players, and this'll be quite a short game.
I promise it'll be short if I join. Like, over in one real life day short.
Post by: prefuzek on June 11, 2021, 12:47:38 pm
U, Robot is in signups now, for the record.
Post by: webadict on June 23, 2021, 12:36:40 pm
Post by: Magma Mater on June 23, 2021, 01:11:00 pm
I don't think Tric's game is gonna get off the ground.:(
Post by: ToonyMan on June 23, 2021, 01:25:01 pm
Also please include a signup list in your OPs. I don't even know who is in Tric's game.
Post by: TricMagic on June 23, 2021, 01:41:21 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on June 23, 2021, 02:19:07 pm
Just need two more people though. We have 3 new players signed up already.You're right, now that I can make sense of it.
Sign Up List
1. BluarianKnight
2. EuchreJack
3. prefuzek
4. Magma Mater
5. webadict
6. hedgerow
7. Roden
I'm willing to join which only leaves one more player required at worst.
Post by: Vector on June 24, 2021, 01:18:45 am
You're welcome.
Post by: TricMagic on June 24, 2021, 07:59:22 am
Thanks.I'll go advertise in the Happy Thread.
You're welcome.
Anyone here willing to play a veteran-advice role? Outside of actually playing.
Post by: Magma Mater on June 24, 2021, 12:07:41 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on June 24, 2021, 01:41:15 pm
Is there a trick to uploading an avatar here? :-[Imgur doesn't work very well anymore so I use postImg.
Post by: webadict on June 24, 2021, 04:30:01 pm
Post by: Magma Mater on June 24, 2021, 05:56:59 pm
Seems to have worked, thank you!!Is there a trick to uploading an avatar here? :-[Imgur doesn't work very well anymore so I use postImg.
Post by: TricMagic on June 25, 2021, 09:41:35 am
Post by: TricMagic on June 30, 2021, 07:31:48 am
Post by: FallacyofUrist on July 06, 2021, 09:15:28 pm
1: Will Lords of Mafia and Groovester Mafia run once there's a slot open, or are they not ready?
2: If it turns out they're not ready, then would people prefer I run Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 instead of FBYOR 5 when it's my turn? I'm curious which has the most interest. (I don't plan on running FBYOR 5 with any fancy theme or anything, just a standard Fallacy-style BYOR game)
Post by: TricMagic on July 06, 2021, 09:17:54 pm
Though best to ask them afterwards too.
Also, add a Bastard setup game to the list. TricMagic's B2.[Name Pending]
Post by: ToonyMan on July 06, 2021, 09:20:44 pm
Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3*Eyes light up*
Post by: TricMagic on July 06, 2021, 09:22:39 pm
Shoot the Robot! ratta-tataMostly Vanilla Mafia 3*Eyes light up*
:; :D
Post by: FallacyofUrist on July 06, 2021, 09:29:35 pm
I would suggest a standard one for the new players to ink teeth into, if they express interest anyway. Much as I'd like to play another BYOR game.The idea of Mostly Vanilla Mafia as a series is three things.
1: Every player, town or mafia (or third party), gets a power role.
2: While the setup is not known, certain constraints are held solid so nobody's caught too off balance.
3: Most roles exist within a vanilla playing field, with just a bit of creative wriggle room.
I think it's fairly ideal for newer players, as compared to a BYOR, which tends to get far out of the reasonable range.
Post by: TricMagic on July 06, 2021, 09:35:19 pm
I would suggest a standard one for the new players to ink teeth into, if they express interest anyway. Much as I'd like to play another BYOR game.The idea of Mostly Vanilla Mafia as a series is three things.
1: Every player, town or mafia (or third party), gets a power role.
2: While the setup is not known, certain constraints are held solid so nobody's caught too off balance.
3: Most roles exist within a vanilla playing field, with just a bit of creative wriggle room.
I think it's fairly ideal for newer players, as compared to a BYOR, which tends to get far out of the reasonable range.
Catgirls and hats. Those two words explain everything and nothing.
Post by: Vector on July 07, 2021, 02:21:41 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on July 07, 2021, 05:36:14 pm
Anyone ahead of me want to run their game next? Or should I put Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 / FBYOR 5 (depending on which is wanted more) into signups?
Post by: EuchreJack on July 07, 2021, 09:47:07 pm
So, I see I'm towards the bottom of the signup list. That is good. Just making sure it's really towards the bottom, so I don't have to figure it out yet.
I'll start some of the discussion regarding set up, just in case.
Post by: ToonyMan on July 08, 2021, 03:26:32 pm
MATRIX6 has ended.
Anyone ahead of me want to run their game next? Or should I put Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 / FBYOR 5 (depending on which is wanted more) into signups?
Haven't seen 4mask or Jim post in awhile so maybe PM both about it?
Post by: Jim Groovester on July 08, 2021, 11:11:54 pm
Post by: Vector on July 08, 2021, 11:15:59 pm
I don't expect to do much here for a while. Take me off the queue.
Sorry to hear it, hope we see you again.
Post by: Mephansteras on July 09, 2021, 09:55:07 am
Post by: 4maskwolf on July 09, 2021, 02:04:26 pm
you can drop me to the bottom of the queue.
Post by: ToonyMan on July 09, 2021, 02:16:18 pm
Post by: Vector on July 09, 2021, 02:55:00 pm
-angry dog noises-
you can drop me to the bottom of the queue.
-angry dog noises-
u gonna come play a game anytime soon?
Post by: TricMagic on July 09, 2021, 04:03:16 pm
I'd rather see Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 over FBYOR5. BYORs can eat dirt.They are fun pieces of insanity. I suppose I can see why though, too much keysanity is bad for you.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on July 09, 2021, 04:27:12 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on July 09, 2021, 10:17:11 pm
Maybe in a few weeks, I've been a bit burnt out on mafia these past couple months and I'm playing in the anniversary game on mafia universe soon.-angry dog noises-
you can drop me to the bottom of the queue.
-angry dog noises-
u gonna come play a game anytime soon?
Post by: Vector on July 17, 2021, 04:00:09 pm
Post by: TolyK on July 18, 2021, 06:18:49 am
Post by: Vector on July 18, 2021, 09:10:07 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on July 19, 2021, 05:00:26 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on July 19, 2021, 06:28:04 pm
Yeaaaah, it's pretty clear that we're stuck at 8. Which would not a good setup make. No clue who I'd PM who isn't already in the game or pledged to not play mafia for the moment, though.Org?
Post by: Vector on July 19, 2021, 07:28:53 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on July 19, 2021, 09:04:35 pm
Have Persus and bluarian sworn off mafia for the time being?
Post by: Vector on July 19, 2021, 09:15:41 pm
^ The more reasonable answer.
Have Persus and bluarian sworn off mafia for the time being?
Oh yeah, they'd also be good to ask. There's also Shakerag.
Post by: Persus13 on July 19, 2021, 10:00:08 pm
Post by: Secretdorf on July 19, 2021, 10:05:18 pm
What am I being asked?To perhaps join MVM3 if you want. We short on a player.
Post by: Shakerag on July 20, 2021, 08:31:18 am
^ The more reasonable answer.
Have Persus and bluarian sworn off mafia for the time being?
Oh yeah, they'd also be good to ask. There's also Shakerag.
Way too busy, sorry. I just check this forum once a day, briefly.
Post by: Persus13 on July 20, 2021, 09:35:04 am
Post by: EuchreJack on July 20, 2021, 09:52:19 am
Sorry, but I don't think I could contribute well to that one.
If you think you could contribute poorly, we'd still be happy to have you!
Post by: ToonyMan on July 22, 2021, 07:18:05 pm
Post by: prefuzek on July 29, 2021, 04:28:43 pm
Post by: EuchreJack on July 29, 2021, 08:39:20 pm
Should be a fast-and-brutal setup.
Post by: ToonyMan on July 29, 2021, 08:56:45 pm
I could run U, Robot again while we wait for some more players to show up. Or I could look for/come up with some other mini-setup.Sounds good.
Hm, how about a Spy vs. Spy setup, where there are two scum teams of 2 players each with only the night kill, remaining players are town, one townie is vigilante?How many players though? That could work with more players, but not if the town aren't a majority.
Should be a fast-and-brutal setup.
Post by: TricMagic on July 29, 2021, 09:04:10 pm
Mind if I run something? I have an idea to make it work. And no jesters, promise~I could run U, Robot again while we wait for some more players to show up. Or I could look for/come up with some other mini-setup.Sounds good.Hm, how about a Spy vs. Spy setup, where there are two scum teams of 2 players each with only the night kill, remaining players are town, one townie is vigilante?How many players though? That could work with more players, but not if the town aren't a majority.
Should be a fast-and-brutal setup.
Post by: prefuzek on July 29, 2021, 09:18:11 pm
Post by: TricMagic on July 29, 2021, 09:27:29 pm
Feel free to post standard MAD memes in response.
Post by: Naturegirl1999 on July 29, 2021, 09:51:41 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on August 03, 2021, 10:47:36 am
EDIT:
I'm serious. I can start the thread tomorrow if nobody else does or objects.
Post by: Roden on August 05, 2021, 10:12:05 pm
Post by: prefuzek on August 05, 2021, 11:53:00 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on August 06, 2021, 11:20:32 am
EDIT:
Wait how do we send the role PMs out with Mamobo if Webadict isn't here?
Post by: prefuzek on August 06, 2021, 05:17:55 pm
I feel like there should be some kind of cryptographic construct that allows us to do it without outside help but creating one seems hard.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 06, 2021, 09:25:00 pm
You might have to get a non-player to send out roles. They don't have to moderate anything so it shouldn't be too hard to find someone willing to.I'll find someone I know on Bay12 to do it then.
Post by: Skynet on August 17, 2021, 05:29:49 pm
I like to observe games, and maybe even run them, but playing them is a step too far. Playing is a bit too stressful for me, and I rather not deal with stress. Which, I guess, doesn't help make this board more active. But I do like reading what happens here though!
Post by: EuchreJack on August 17, 2021, 06:53:18 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on August 17, 2021, 08:32:37 pm
Spoiler: This site doesn't have the wowee emote so I have to put it in image form (click to show/hide)
Post by: ToonyMan on August 17, 2021, 09:01:58 pm
If more players would sign up for games we could play. We currently have an active roster of like...five or six players.
Post by: EuchreJack on August 17, 2021, 09:15:37 pm
A lot of regulars are busy or away this summer.
Also as I mentioned, things have opened up a lot for like the first time in a year. The backlog of work is still foreboding in many workplaces.
Post by: Vector on August 19, 2021, 01:11:10 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on August 27, 2021, 04:57:14 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on August 27, 2021, 07:44:48 pm
In the meantime I should probably cancel U, Robot 3 since there isn't enough interest.
Post by: Metruption on September 18, 2021, 03:10:27 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on September 20, 2021, 03:40:03 pm
/in as player
Want to join Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=178730.0)?
Post by: Metruption on October 03, 2021, 04:46:27 am
Post by: EuchreJack on October 03, 2021, 06:37:57 am
Post by: webadict on October 05, 2021, 10:38:38 pm
/in as player
Post by: Vector on October 05, 2021, 11:57:53 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on October 06, 2021, 10:21:55 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on October 07, 2021, 12:51:52 pm
Huh, looks like I'm next up in the queue.
What would people be in the mood for? Paranormal? Supernatural? Totem Mafia, for those that want a theme restricted BYOR? Something new?
Post by: TricMagic on October 07, 2021, 01:01:45 pm
Post by: Vector on October 07, 2021, 01:08:21 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on October 07, 2021, 02:03:09 pm
Post by: webadict on October 07, 2021, 02:18:18 pm
Post by: hops on October 08, 2021, 01:19:38 am
Post by: 4maskwolf on October 08, 2021, 07:37:45 pm
Post by: webadict on October 08, 2021, 07:54:05 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on October 09, 2021, 02:24:20 pm
Post by: webadict on October 09, 2021, 02:39:56 pm
I vote Kill Webadict Now: Meph Edition.So basically BYOR.
Post by: EuchreJack on October 09, 2021, 02:58:32 pm
Kill Webadict NowI vote Kill Webadict Now: Meph Edition.So basically BYOR.
Post by: webadict on November 04, 2021, 10:46:45 pm
Post by: TricMagic on November 05, 2021, 09:05:17 am
Yo Meph, you should start the next game soon, so that we can transition from NSVM3 to your game in a smooth and orderly fashion.Violently with blood and lynches? Also, Webadict.
Post by: Mephansteras on November 05, 2021, 07:40:16 pm
I'll get signups going tonight and we can kick the game off early next week (or as soon as we can get enough people).
Post by: Mephansteras on November 05, 2021, 10:47:57 pm
Post by: webadict on November 19, 2021, 12:05:47 am
YOHOS probably won't be done the way I want, so I'm trying to think of a type of game I should run. Since Meph's running a BYOR style, I feel like something else might be nice. Otherwise, if anyone has an idea of what they'd like, let me know.
EDIT: Vote Mafia is also a choice, if that's wanted.
Post by: Vector on November 19, 2021, 12:13:29 am
Post by: Mephansteras on November 19, 2021, 12:35:52 am
Post by: Mephansteras on December 05, 2021, 12:07:44 am
Post by: webadict on December 05, 2021, 01:00:22 am
Totem Mafia has wrapped up surprisingly quickly. Who's next on the list that would be able to run a game?<-- This guy. Let's put Vote Mafia into sign-ups.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on December 05, 2021, 02:46:33 am
Post by: webadict on December 07, 2021, 06:28:45 pm
I'd still love to run Round 5 - the final one - of Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3, but I can wait until after Vote Mafia 9 is done.Well, considering interest, maybe MVM3R5 is a better option? Not sure.
Post by: EuchreJack on December 08, 2021, 03:05:10 pm
Post by: webadict on December 12, 2021, 09:25:36 pm
Post by: Knightwing64 on December 13, 2021, 07:22:59 am
Weird question: Would, uh, anyone be up for a Kill Webadict Now instead of Vote Mafia?
:D
Post by: Maximum Spin on December 13, 2021, 05:18:36 pm
Weird question: Would, uh, anyone be up for a Kill Webadict Now instead of Vote Mafia?Sure, I'm good either way.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on December 13, 2021, 10:02:24 pm
Post by: TolyK on December 17, 2021, 05:09:29 am
Weird question: Would, uh, anyone be up for a Kill Webadict Now instead of Vote Mafia?
:D
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 17, 2022, 02:54:54 am
Vote Mafia was replaced with a new Kill Webadict Now bastard thing, which has since been completed.
Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 is presently active, and on its final round.
Post by: Mephansteras on January 17, 2022, 02:14:08 pm
Post by: Vector on January 17, 2022, 03:17:57 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 25, 2022, 09:35:18 pm
For a change of pace I'll be designing a custom semi-open setup with much less emphasis on complex power roles and more emphasis on the changed vote system. Because honestly, I figure that a setup that doesn't rely on complex night mechanics so much might be appreciated, after the constant heavy role setups we've dealt with for a while.
Will the new Emperor be elected from the pure and meritorious or will they have a traitorous heart within?
Post by: Maximum Spin on January 26, 2022, 03:21:36 pm
Post by: webadict on January 26, 2022, 10:12:13 pm
Post by: EuchreJack on January 26, 2022, 10:48:05 pm
Post by: webadict on January 27, 2022, 03:24:35 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 27, 2022, 03:37:39 pm
Who's next? I just see a game name.
'You Only Have One Shot'. webadict added it to the queue a while ago.
It's a bastard mod game.
Can we save that for later? I think we've all had our fill of bastard for a while.
Post by: webadict on January 27, 2022, 05:19:39 pm
Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 is finally over.I don't wanna run a game anyway. YOHOS won't be playable for a while because I'm laaaazy.Who's next? I just see a game name.
'You Only Have One Shot'. webadict added it to the queue a while ago.
It's a bastard mod game.
Can we save that for later? I think we've all had our fill of bastard for a while.
Post by: EuchreJack on January 27, 2022, 05:35:51 pm
Regarding Island Mafia, I'm probably going to change the setting but keep the mechanics the same. I had a Great Idea of running it as an American shipyard in WWII with Axis Spies as Mafia.
Post by: Jim Groovester on January 27, 2022, 10:58:55 pm
Post by: TolyK on January 28, 2022, 05:13:40 am
Post by: Roden on January 28, 2022, 04:11:32 pm
Post by: EuchreJack on January 28, 2022, 04:27:10 pm
It seems like you don't have to commit to a theme or anything really. Just get your name on the list.
Post by: webadict on January 28, 2022, 05:27:28 pm
Post by: EuchreJack on January 28, 2022, 07:09:10 pm
So I could probably run something in early February.
Post by: Jim Groovester on January 28, 2022, 07:28:55 pm
Traitors in the Fortress then. Who's got that one?
Also, I'd like to be put in the Queue for running a Royal-style game. Specifically, Execution in the Palace. (Named Traitors in the Fortress)
I guess TricMagic is up.
Post by: EuchreJack on January 28, 2022, 07:37:46 pm
Post by: webadict on January 28, 2022, 08:35:23 pm
Aliens (Maybe it should be called "Do Aliens Exist?") would be a Social Deduction game where 50% of the time, half of the players are Aliens. All Players vote whether Aliens exist. The Day ends when all Players have voted, and if the majority of Humans voted correctly, the Humans win. Otherwise, the Humans lose.
iRobot would be the Social Deduction game where 2 Players are Human and the rest are Robots. It takes one vote to execute a Player, but Robots cannot vote the Human. The Humans win if all Robots are executed, and the Robots win if one Human executes a Robot.
Vengeful can be the Dayless 5p Mafia variant where if a Town player is executed first, they are able to shoot another Player, and the game continues normally from there.
All are playable without a Moderator, and Mamobo can send out the roles automatically, and if another game is runnable and wanted (Like, say, SS3 or something), we can do that, too.
I just want to play another game, especially if it's short.
Post by: EuchreJack on January 28, 2022, 10:23:55 pm
@Web: I find Aliens to be the most interesting. I guess run something and see if you have the players?
Post by: Jim Groovester on January 28, 2022, 11:01:30 pm
Post by: Roden on January 28, 2022, 11:06:19 pm
Post here that you want to run a game with its name.Oh, ok that's pretty convenient then. There's a couple games I'd like to try to run, but I should probably start with something simpler.
It seems like you don't have to commit to a theme or anything really. Just get your name on the list.
I'd like to submit Demon Mafia in the queue, the flavor being based off of Shin Megami Tensei and being mechanically similar to Totem Mafia as a "you pick" type of game.
If we want to play a mini-game, we could run a short game. Each of the games listed can be automatically moderated by the players themselves. It can run in between sign-ups.I'm interested to try one of these while we wait for the next game. Preference would be Aliens.
Aliens (Maybe it should be called "Do Aliens Exist?") would be a Social Deduction game where 50% of the time, half of the players are Aliens. All Players vote whether Aliens exist. The Day ends when all Players have voted, and if the majority of Humans voted correctly, the Humans win. Otherwise, the Humans lose.
iRobot would be the Social Deduction game where 2 Players are Human and the rest are Robots. It takes one vote to execute a Player, but Robots cannot vote the Human. The Humans win if all Robots are executed, and the Robots win if one Human executes a Robot.
Vengeful can be the Dayless 5p Mafia variant where if a Town player is executed first, they are able to shoot another Player, and the game continues normally from there.
All are playable without a Moderator, and Mamobo can send out the roles automatically, and if another game is runnable and wanted (Like, say, SS3 or something), we can do that, too.
I just want to play another game, especially if it's short.
Post by: Shakerag on January 28, 2022, 11:40:53 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on January 29, 2022, 12:46:59 am
Did somebody say SMT? I even picked the role Beelzebub in BYOR15 for that reason.
Post by: Roden on January 31, 2022, 09:08:39 am
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 01, 2022, 07:22:21 pm
Mostly Vanilla Mafia 3 is finally over.Just restating this since it hasn't been updated yet. There's space for another major game to run now if we want to advance the queue.
In the meantime I might re-run my Caves of Dashar setup, since that seemed good the first time, it's small and fast, with a good amount of strategy to it. Guaranteed no power roles though, since it's better that way.
Post by: EuchreJack on February 02, 2022, 03:52:22 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on February 02, 2022, 04:44:26 pm
So, how long should I wait before skipping Tric and starting my game?
I'd say you can start sign-ups on Monday if they haven't posted anything before then.
Post by: EuchreJack on February 02, 2022, 05:06:09 pm
So, how long should I wait before skipping Tric and starting my game?
I'd say you can start sign-ups on Monday if they haven't posted anything before then.
Thanks!
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 02, 2022, 07:08:02 pm
Tric has said in the Bay 12 mafia Discord server that he's not in the mood for mafia at the moment. Jack can go ahead and run a game, I think.So, how long should I wait before skipping Tric and starting my game?
I'd say you can start sign-ups on Monday if they haven't posted anything before then.
Post by: Mephansteras on February 02, 2022, 08:38:39 pm
Post by: EuchreJack on February 02, 2022, 09:49:57 pm
Wartime Shipbuilder Mafia is an evolution in setting (but not so much mechanics) of my previously proposed Island Mafia.
The gimmick is that there is a Cop and/or Tracker, but NO Doctor. I'll probably run this one unless people really want the below.
On the back-burner:
Armed Forces Mafia gives everyone a gun (some have more shots than others), and a one-shot bulletproof vest. Mafia have unlimited ammo.
Quick and dirty game. I'll probably run the properly planned out one above instead, but I'll put the option out there if people would prefer it.
Post by: RoseHeart on February 22, 2022, 02:25:25 pm
Basically, 3 people are called up at a time, and you know one of them did the crime. You submit your own petty crimes when you sign up, should be a hoot!
Post by: EuchreJack on February 26, 2022, 08:47:33 am
Final touches are being put on it. Hope to start Day 1 today.
Post by: EuchreJack on March 04, 2022, 12:19:27 pm
Signing up to run a new game whenever.
Post by: Roden on March 06, 2022, 10:49:47 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 07, 2022, 12:39:23 am
EuchreJack, Island Mafia is still on the list, but that was rebranded as Warplant, right? So I think that needs to get removed from the queue.
4maskwolf is probably up if Web isn't up for running something.
Post by: RoseHeart on March 07, 2022, 05:13:33 am
Post by: EuchreJack on March 07, 2022, 11:12:01 am
Looks like Web is up if he wants to do YOHOS (or something else)Correct. Island Mafia should be removed from the queue, or perhaps placed on the bottom of the queue.
EuchreJack, Island Mafia is still on the list, but that was rebranded as Warplant, right? So I think that needs to get removed from the queue.
4maskwolf is probably up if Web isn't up for running something.
Post by: Vector on March 07, 2022, 01:38:39 pm
Post by: webadict on March 07, 2022, 05:17:22 pm
I'd like to run something like a Paranormal or a Supernatural or even a very low power BYOR or something. Idk, someone do a simulated fight over which one I should run.
Post by: webadict on March 10, 2022, 08:48:40 pm
Post by: EuchreJack on March 10, 2022, 10:55:42 pm
I'm not really interested in the other ideas.
Post by: Roden on March 11, 2022, 02:34:59 am
Post by: Toni on March 28, 2022, 06:35:32 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on March 28, 2022, 06:59:39 pm
Post by: Toni on March 28, 2022, 07:19:17 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on March 28, 2022, 07:22:46 pm
Post by: EuchreJack on March 28, 2022, 08:08:10 pm
Yeah, already reading. Your all caps all the time thing is annoying, I assume that is intentional? :PNote: Players of current games aren't supposed to talk about them outside of the thread. So we mostly can't discuss it until the game is over, sorry.
Post by: Toni on March 28, 2022, 08:26:48 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 28, 2022, 10:32:05 pm
Ah, right, of course, sorry to intrude. :-[
No worries, you had no way of knowing.
Welcome to the forum!
In addition to the current game, you can also read through the Notable games archive (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=178429.0).
And since people can chat about games that have finished, you're welcome to discuss stuff in the Banter thread (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=136990.0).
If you have specific questions about mafia in general, you can ask them in the Banter thread or in the New Player's thread.
Post by: webadict on March 29, 2022, 10:14:47 am
Post by: Toni on March 30, 2022, 10:06:48 am
Post by: EuchreJack on April 10, 2022, 10:22:06 pm
You Only Have One Shot is next in the queue. Who is running that one?
Post by: Secretdorf on April 11, 2022, 07:48:04 am
Web's Simple BYOR is in Day 5 with 3 players remaining. So it will probably be ending soon.Webadict... I believe.
You Only Have One Shot is next in the queue. Who is running that one?
Post by: EuchreJack on April 11, 2022, 08:05:59 am
Sign me up to GM another game!
Armed Forces Mafia: Everyone gets a gun, Everyone gets a bulletproof vest.
Post by: webadict on April 11, 2022, 09:50:41 am
How come Webby has so many in the queue?I don't! I keep saying that YOHOS is perpetually delayed!
Sign me up to GM another game!
Armed Forces Mafia: Everyone gets a gun, Everyone gets a bulletproof vest.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 11, 2022, 10:59:32 am
4maskwolf, you want to run Lords of Mafia next?
Post by: 4maskwolf on April 12, 2022, 03:34:48 pm
Yeah gimme a bit.
Edit: actually before I put it up, interest check: do people want to play a flavor-altered War in the Palace (https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=War_in_the_Palace) setup? Because that's what Lords of Mafia is.
Post by: Jim Groovester on April 12, 2022, 04:10:36 pm
do people want to play a flavor-altered War in the Palace (https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=War_in_the_Palace) setup? Because that's what Lords of Mafia is.
Yes.
Post by: webadict on April 12, 2022, 05:47:00 pm
do people want to play a flavor-altered War in the Palace (https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=War_in_the_Palace) setup? Because that's what Lords of Mafia is.
Yes.
Post by: webadict on April 12, 2022, 09:26:04 pm
Post by: webadict on April 13, 2022, 09:47:32 am
Fine with whatever, I don't mind a wait, gives me more time to read up.Maybe the new guy wants to play?
Post by: ToonyMan on April 13, 2022, 10:11:40 am
Post by: webadict on April 13, 2022, 11:04:04 am
The 7 player setup may actually be too small for everyone interested.There is a 9p variant, as well.
Post by: Toni on April 13, 2022, 02:32:45 pm
New guy was interested, looked over the rules and games linked on the wiki, and it seemed like something they'd have a hard time not screwing up for people. Which is arguably true of most games, but this one feels a tad more so.Fine with whatever, I don't mind a wait, gives me more time to read up.Maybe the new guy wants to play?
Post by: Maximum Spin on April 13, 2022, 02:37:29 pm
Don't be diffident. You can't possibly screw up more than the most experienced players.New guy was interested, looked over the rules and games linked on the wiki, and it seemed like something they'd have a hard time not screwing up for people. Which is arguably true of most games, but this one feels a tad more so.Fine with whatever, I don't mind a wait, gives me more time to read up.Maybe the new guy wants to play?
Post by: webadict on April 13, 2022, 02:56:58 pm
No better way to learn then to absolutely screw up. But if not, I get it. Would you play a smaller game? We could probably start a 5p game at the same time!New guy was interested, looked over the rules and games linked on the wiki, and it seemed like something they'd have a hard time not screwing up for people. Which is arguably true of most games, but this one feels a tad more so.Fine with whatever, I don't mind a wait, gives me more time to read up.Maybe the new guy wants to play?
Post by: 4maskwolf on April 13, 2022, 06:26:38 pm
Something something game balance something something flavor something something.The 7 player setup may actually be too small for everyone interested.There is a 9p variant, as well.
Post by: EuchreJack on April 13, 2022, 10:05:33 pm
Something something meta stupid something something always lynch new guy day 1 something something.Something something game balance something something flavor something something.The 7 player setup may actually be too small for everyone interested.There is a 9p variant, as well.
Post by: EuchreJack on April 13, 2022, 10:12:40 pm
New guy was interested, looked over the rules and games linked on the wiki, and it seemed like something they'd have a hard time not screwing up for people. Which is arguably true of most games, but this one feels a tad more so.Fine with whatever, I don't mind a wait, gives me more time to read up.Maybe the new guy wants to play?
New game is waiting for you...
Also to 4maskwolf, 9 player variant pretty please?
Post by: webadict on April 14, 2022, 04:30:40 pm
You haven’t even joined the 7p one!New guy was interested, looked over the rules and games linked on the wiki, and it seemed like something they'd have a hard time not screwing up for people. Which is arguably true of most games, but this one feels a tad more so.Fine with whatever, I don't mind a wait, gives me more time to read up.Maybe the new guy wants to play?
New game is waiting for you...
Also to 4maskwolf, 9 player variant pretty please?
Post by: EuchreJack on April 14, 2022, 09:14:39 pm
I was saving it for Toni, but okYou haven’t even joined the 7p one!New guy was interested, looked over the rules and games linked on the wiki, and it seemed like something they'd have a hard time not screwing up for people. Which is arguably true of most games, but this one feels a tad more so.Fine with whatever, I don't mind a wait, gives me more time to read up.Maybe the new guy wants to play?
New game is waiting for you...
Also to 4maskwolf, 9 player variant pretty please?
Post by: FallacyofUrist on April 15, 2022, 09:11:24 pm
Anyone interested?
Post by: webadict on April 15, 2022, 09:27:14 pm
If people want I could run a Vengeful or some other 5p setup to help accommodate any newer players or anyone who won't fit in Lords of Mafia / wants a shorter game / etc.Sure
Anyone interested?
Post by: Mephansteras on April 22, 2022, 01:04:17 pm
Post by: Vector on April 26, 2022, 12:26:00 pm
Looks like Vector is up next if they would like to run a game (Rusted Diadem or otherwise)
I can't until July, at which point I intend to jump the queue, wherever I am on it, and run Rusted Diadem. Please let someone else go.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 26, 2022, 02:12:27 pm
Although the queue is a bit...oddly paced at the moment, as I put stuff on it based more on when someone has an idea they want in the queue than anything else. You folks are free to negotiate amongst yourselves on who should do what when.
Post by: TricMagic on April 26, 2022, 02:43:28 pm
Looks like Tricmagic is up next, then. If they're ready.And posted. Let the chaos begin again! There are Traitors in the Fortress. (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=179780.msg8370171#msg8370171)
Although the queue is a bit...oddly paced at the moment, as I put stuff on it based more on when someone has an idea they want in the queue than anything else. You folks are free to negotiate amongst yourselves on who should do what when.
Post by: EuchreJack on April 26, 2022, 05:53:54 pm
Looks like Tricmagic is up next, then. If they're ready.
Although the queue is a bit...oddly paced at the moment, as I put stuff on it based more on when someone has an idea they want in the queue than anything else. You folks are free to negotiate amongst yourselves on who should do what when.
Under no circumstances do I intend to run two games back-to-back, I just wanted two slots. So yeah, next 1d6 players to request to run a game should be wedged between those two games I've requested to run.
Looks like Vector is up next if they would like to run a game (Rusted Diadem or otherwise)
I can't until July, at which point I intend to jump the queue, wherever I am on it, and run Rusted Diadem. Please let someone else go.
That sounds more like smashing the Snooze Button than jumping the queue, a more wholesome activity for sure.
Post by: TricMagic on April 26, 2022, 07:04:57 pm
If not, just put it in the Queue as Angel or Demon?
... 4 person might be better for that idea. As a 3 person it's just a blind debate.
Post by: TricMagic on April 30, 2022, 12:03:02 pm
Post by: notquitethere on May 04, 2022, 09:59:46 am
Post by: webadict on May 04, 2022, 11:19:40 am
In June, I would like to run either Proc Gen Mafia 4 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=175212.0), or some kind of mad closed set up involving hats and hat theft.Can it be called TricMagical Hats (https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Magical_Hats)?
Post by: TricMagic on May 04, 2022, 04:48:40 pm
This one isn't bastard-ish at all. There are 2 Mafia Cops, and a bunch of vanilla-ish townies. All Roles are known. Town has to lynch the two cops to win. Mafia wins when they outnumber town, but don't know each other. They do however share their info results. Oh, and both of them have a daykill they can use whenever they wish. I might reduce it to a single shared kill they can use at the expense of the other.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on May 04, 2022, 06:07:55 pm
Jade Court was originally intended to be a 10-player semi-open setup. All roles would be known, but roles would be randomly selected from the pool to be included in the game prior to starting it. However, designing the open setup is proving a bit difficult - I'm having a bit of trouble making sure the game's potential configurations are balanced and interesting. This leaves me with three options.
A: Keep trying at this. It might take me a bit longer to get Jade Court working as a semi-open setup. I don't want to make everyone wait for the next major game, but it'll probably be a few days at least before I can crack this, maybe longer.
B: Make Jade Court a closed game. To be clear, the main rules and game structure would still be entirely open, I'd just be designing a single, balanced roles-setup, which would have to be opaque to the players until game end. Think a Mostly Vanilla Mafia, but with less intense power roles, fewer power roles, and more of an emphasis on the vote.
C: Run an entirely different game. I'm pretty confident, at this point, in my ability to run a new Fallacy's BYOR that doesn't suck, or even a semi-bastard if y'all are up for something interesting.
I'm just not sure which of these to go for.
Post by: TricMagic on May 04, 2022, 06:39:24 pm
Post by: Roden on May 04, 2022, 06:46:27 pm
Post by: Shakerag on May 04, 2022, 08:55:38 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on May 04, 2022, 10:11:21 pm
What do you want to do?
Post by: reina on May 05, 2022, 04:53:18 am
Last time I played/hosted mafia here was over a decade ago under the username Eduren. Gotta say, its wild to come back, recognize names, and see some of you still at it. I have a lot of good memories of socializing with y'all when I was younger :)
Hope everyone's doing well!
Post by: Mephansteras on May 05, 2022, 10:15:11 am
Post by: notquitethere on May 05, 2022, 04:48:35 pm
no, u vanila. No lazersthat maeks on snese cuz im megaman frum space that shot misille lazers!!!! also i am reaaly strong an can litf big tings and than through them throw stufs and i can shot mafa and win!!!!!111!!
Post by: FallacyofUrist on May 05, 2022, 07:01:04 pm
What do you want to do?Personally I'm leaning towards B and C in the options I posted. While balancing Jade Court as an open setup is doable, it's not fun in the same way that designing a closed setup is.
Hmm. I think including some example roles in the OP will be helpful if I do run Jade Court, though.
The reason I asked was so I could get some input on which the more popular choice would be, you know? Player interest is an important factor in deciding what games to run.
Forum registration just got approved, was hoping to make it in time for the most recent game.Welcome back to the Mafia subforum. We're not as big as we were back in the 'good old days' which I wasn't really around for, but there's still something of an active community. I'll be opening signups for the next game in the queue tonight or in a day or two, if you're interested.
Post by: Egan_BW on May 05, 2022, 07:33:55 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on May 05, 2022, 10:41:25 pm
Eduren
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=031vKBPk5eA
Personally I'm leaning towards B and C in the options I posted.
I'm game for whatever. I guess I'd say it's up to you for whether you want to use the Jade Court setting and flavor now or save it for when the setup is truly perfect.
Post by: Vector on May 06, 2022, 01:13:34 am
Post by: EuchreJack on May 06, 2022, 01:41:17 am
Sometimes, the only way to make something great is to first make something crappy. So I would suggest a Turquoise Court now. That would be Option A or B, I guess.
Post by: EuchreJack on May 06, 2022, 04:29:50 pm
Post by: webadict on May 06, 2022, 05:09:03 pm
Uh, could somebody start a new game, so we stop fighting over the last one? :PI don't really think we're fighting. Max is just disagreeing with what I'm saying, and I'm disagreeing with what he's saying. I'm pretty sure neither of us are particularly heated about it, but I suppose I can't technically answer for Max. I just figured he'd want my mindset in case it becomes relevant in a future game, and I would want his.
Post by: EuchreJack on May 06, 2022, 05:13:50 pm
You can't share info
It'll make it harder should I ever roll scum :P
Post by: Maximum Spin on May 06, 2022, 05:24:13 pm
I agree with this. I think if webadict and I were fighting, you'd definitely be able to tell because of all the collateral damage.Uh, could somebody start a new game, so we stop fighting over the last one? :PI don't really think we're fighting. Max is just disagreeing with what I'm saying, and I'm disagreeing with what he's saying. I'm pretty sure neither of us are particularly heated about it, but I suppose I can't technically answer for Max. I just figured he'd want my mindset in case it becomes relevant in a future game, and I would want his.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on May 06, 2022, 05:34:01 pm
The way I think I'll do it is this - I'll make sure nobody goes into it blind by posting example roles and role categories, for example Smith's Guild Leader or Young Master Of The Blue Oyster Sect. That way even though the mafiascum wiki won't serve so much as a roles reference, you'll all still have a fair idea of what may show up.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on May 07, 2022, 08:07:08 pm
Edit to avoid a triple post:
Jade Court has now begun.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on May 20, 2022, 03:11:33 am
Please put FBYOR 5 into the queue from the planned games list.
Post by: webadict on May 20, 2022, 05:10:55 am
Post by: webadict on May 20, 2022, 04:51:24 pm
Post by: TricMagic on May 20, 2022, 05:49:00 pm
Who's next?That would be me. Prepare for Bring 2, It's Personal
On that note, thread is up.
Post by: TricMagic on May 24, 2022, 05:27:58 pm
Post by: webadict on May 25, 2022, 08:59:26 am
Post by: FallacyofUrist on May 28, 2022, 04:15:13 pm
Just checked on Discord, and Maximum Spin's said he's not in a good position to run a game right now, so his should probably be bumped down.
So next up is... Vector's Rusted Diadem. Oh boy.
Post by: Shakerag on May 28, 2022, 04:38:50 pm
Post by: TricMagic on May 28, 2022, 04:52:07 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on May 29, 2022, 12:47:57 pm
It's up (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=179908.0).
Post by: webadict on May 29, 2022, 01:52:20 pm
Post by: NJW2000 on May 29, 2022, 02:13:13 pm
Post by: webadict on May 29, 2022, 02:44:39 pm
Beginner BYOR? Typo or novel idea for bay12 beginner's mafia?'Tis a new concept for B12 Mafia.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on May 29, 2022, 04:29:03 pm
Should I make a Beginner BYOR thread in case newbies show up?Yeah? Honestly, sure. Just make the signups extended and start reaching out to potential new players. If it can start any time within the next two weeks, for example, it'll be more likely to attract players. Maybe reserve a few slots for new players? I'm not sure.
Post by: Jim Groovester on June 03, 2022, 09:06:19 pm
Post by: webadict on June 04, 2022, 02:31:20 pm
Post by: TricMagic on June 04, 2022, 03:03:09 pm
Post by: webadict on June 04, 2022, 03:27:49 pm
Web, can Mamobo run a simple 1v4 game on it's onw?No, not on its own. But, it could if I added a bit more code.
Post by: Maximum Spin on June 04, 2022, 04:52:16 pm
Post by: EuchreJack on June 29, 2022, 12:07:16 am
Post by: webadict on June 29, 2022, 08:17:31 am
Post by: EuchreJack on June 29, 2022, 03:14:54 pm
My thought was that Beginner BYOR more of an on-going series to attract new players and less a queued game, since we want new Players in games ASAP.No objections from me.
Post by: Mephansteras on June 29, 2022, 03:52:01 pm
Post by: webadict on June 29, 2022, 05:06:25 pm
Post by: EuchreJack on June 29, 2022, 05:39:38 pm
Post by: Vector on June 29, 2022, 05:49:51 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on July 03, 2022, 05:12:38 pm
Beginner BYOR 2 has entered signups.
The queue should probably be updated according to when people intend to run their games.
Well, would anyone else want to run the next Beginner BYOR, or should I create another one?
I'll run number three, if you like.
Post by: Roden on July 04, 2022, 09:29:26 am
Post by: webadict on July 04, 2022, 11:00:03 am
I'll run number three, if you like.Sure!
Post by: FallacyofUrist on July 23, 2022, 06:35:10 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on July 27, 2022, 10:19:42 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on July 27, 2022, 11:26:37 pm
Post by: Vector on July 27, 2022, 11:27:42 pm
Well, we're right on time for Vector's game, assuming they are still up to run it.
groooooan.
I'm not. Sorry. *twiddles thumbs*
Post by: Mephansteras on July 27, 2022, 11:56:00 pm
Post by: Vector on July 28, 2022, 12:41:24 am
Post by: Jim Groovester on July 28, 2022, 12:55:41 am
Post by: Vector on July 28, 2022, 01:47:02 am
Put me in the queue. I've got an idea.
Put me behind Jim, I want to play whatever this is.
Post by: Mephansteras on July 28, 2022, 10:53:43 am
Right now it looks like EuchreJack is up?
Post by: EuchreJack on July 29, 2022, 08:34:32 am
Ok, I updated the queue a bit. Though, as always, it's very loose and we can move things around as needed.Sir yes Sir!
Right now it looks like EuchreJack is up?
Post by: NJW2000 on August 01, 2022, 05:39:44 pm
Also, would anyone be willing to give me some advice on setup balance in PMs or discord? I'm worried about breaking strategies and so on.
Post by: Shakerag on August 01, 2022, 09:20:38 pm
Please put me in the queue to run a semi-open setup I'm tentatively calling Wormwood Mafia
Also, would anyone be willing to give me some advice on setup balance in PMs or discord? I'm worried about breaking strategies and so on.
I could, but I'm definitely not the best at it.
Post by: NJW2000 on August 02, 2022, 05:33:22 pm
Thanks! Will PM you.Please put me in the queue to run a semi-open setup I'm tentatively calling Wormwood Mafia
Also, would anyone be willing to give me some advice on setup balance in PMs or discord? I'm worried about breaking strategies and so on.
I could, but I'm definitely not the best at it.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on August 10, 2022, 07:50:03 pm
Post by: TricMagic on August 10, 2022, 07:51:09 pm
Beginner's BYOR 3 has started.Bit late on that. :P
It's already insane, go check it out.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 18, 2022, 07:16:07 pm
Beginner's BYOR 3 has started.It's over.
Let's have a simple game of people with vests and guns now.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on August 19, 2022, 05:13:32 pm
I'll probably run Actual Bastard Fallacy LaBeouf sometime late this year or early next year. It is, as you might imagine, a bastard mod produced by my twisted brain. Nobody should play it.
Post by: Egan_BW on August 19, 2022, 06:21:19 pm
Post by: TricMagic on August 21, 2022, 05:19:31 pm
Post by: TolyK on August 22, 2022, 01:59:41 am
Post by: notquitethere on August 25, 2022, 02:53:49 pm
Proc Gen Mafia 4 is in its testing phase. Come and generate some powers and let me know if there are bugs. (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=180245.0)
Post by: FallacyofUrist on September 01, 2022, 06:32:59 pm
Post by: notquitethere on September 01, 2022, 06:50:06 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on September 12, 2022, 10:05:25 am
Post by: webadict on September 12, 2022, 11:01:39 am
Post by: Egan_BW on September 12, 2022, 02:55:40 pm
Post by: notquitethere on September 12, 2022, 05:59:52 pm
Post by: Egan_BW on September 13, 2022, 07:53:32 pm
Post by: EuchreJack on September 16, 2022, 04:56:32 pm
Do people want to see me try and actually run Island Mafia, run a fixed version of Armed Forces Mafia, or Kill Jim Jack Tric Now: Knightwing's Requested Revenge?
Post by: webadict on September 16, 2022, 06:51:23 pm
Post by: TricMagic on September 17, 2022, 11:10:41 am
Kill Jim Jack Tric Now: Knightwing's Requested Revenge?This.
Post by: EuchreJack on September 17, 2022, 12:29:43 pm
I do have it planned out...Kill Jim Jack Tric Now: Knightwing's Requested Revenge?This.
Post by: Tomasque on September 21, 2022, 03:48:01 pm
Post by: webadict on October 03, 2022, 11:11:01 am
Post by: FallacyofUrist on October 03, 2022, 11:49:36 am
Edit: Posted!
Post by: FallacyofUrist on October 13, 2022, 01:47:02 am
Post by: webadict on October 16, 2022, 05:18:00 pm
EDIT: I mean queue, I'm tired.
Post by: EuchreJack on November 09, 2022, 05:20:28 pm
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=180540.msg8426555#msg8426555
Post by: FallacyofUrist on November 10, 2022, 06:37:16 pm
Add Forbidden Ritual to planned games - a mafia based around mana, sharing, and communal contributions.
Remove Actual Bastard Fallacy LaBeouf from planned games (it was a placeholder name), and add Devil Suits to the games queue - a fast-paced bastard mod.
Post by: heydude6 on November 16, 2022, 04:38:03 pm
Post by: notquitethere on November 16, 2022, 04:46:01 pm
Secret Hitler into planned games. Is that the proper place? Why can't I just put it into the queue?You can put it straight in the queue. Planned games is like a heads up for games planned but not ready to run yet. You want to get in the queue ASAP as it takes forever to percolate.
Post by: EuchreJack on November 16, 2022, 04:55:07 pm
It goes faster when people join the game awaiting signups...Secret Hitler into planned games. Is that the proper place? Why can't I just put it into the queue?You can put it straight in the queue. Planned games is like a heads up for games planned but not ready to run yet. You want to get in the queue ASAP as it takes forever to percolate.
Post by: heydude6 on November 16, 2022, 05:38:38 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on November 16, 2022, 07:56:22 pm
Secret Hitler into planned games. Is that the proper place? Why can't I just put it into the queue?You can put it straight in the queue. Planned games is like a heads up for games planned but not ready to run yet. You want to get in the queue ASAP as it takes forever to percolate.
Yeah, Planned Games is as much a reminder for the mod that they have an idea they want to run eventually as much as anything.
Post by: webadict on November 16, 2022, 11:06:10 pm
Might be that not everyone wants to play that game. We could do an interest check on something like Meph's Paranormal and possibly override the queue momentarily to build some momentum. Might be that people want a specific type of game.It goes faster when people join the game awaiting signups...Secret Hitler into planned games. Is that the proper place? Why can't I just put it into the queue?You can put it straight in the queue. Planned games is like a heads up for games planned but not ready to run yet. You want to get in the queue ASAP as it takes forever to percolate.
Post by: TricMagic on November 17, 2022, 09:03:45 am
Post by: webadict on November 17, 2022, 09:35:20 am
I can run a normal game?I think it'd be better to say what type of game that is. Do you mean Mountainous? If so, I'm not particularly a fan.
I think checking to see which games in the Queue people want to play would be a good idea:
Quote
Unrest in the Fortress - TricMagic
Power Hungry Mafia 3 - Shakerag
Jim's Mafia idea - Jim Groovester
Rusted Diadem - Vector
Wormwood Mafia - NJW2000
Bring 3: Chaos Incarnate - TricMagic
Paranormal Mafia 27 - Mephansteras
One Day Ultimate Mafia - notquitethere
BYOR 16 - webadict
Devil Suits - FallacyofUrist
Secret Hitler - heydude6
Personally, I think a BYOR is probably a bad idea to run right now, so I'd probably exclude mine, but something fast and easy like One Day Ultimate Mafia or an old classic like Paranormal or maybe even a smaller game, like Vengeful or iRobot would probably get some people up and moving again.
Post by: NJW2000 on November 17, 2022, 09:47:28 am
Post by: TricMagic on November 17, 2022, 10:01:14 am
Post by: notquitethere on November 17, 2022, 11:04:55 am
Just a normal one with a cop, a doctor, and mafia. Simple and clean. (And likely to be a trainwreck due to bay12 meta.)That setup is bust. The cop claims D1, the doc stays quiet and protects them. Mafia left to find the doc while the cop is 1. confirmed town, and 2. creates a steady towncore. Anything but that.
I'm up for running One Day Ultimate Mafia in about a month, as I'm running two big forum games and I don't have room for more.
Post by: TricMagic on November 17, 2022, 11:12:49 am
Just a normal one with a cop, a doctor, and mafia. Simple and clean. (And likely to be a trainwreck due to bay12 meta.)That setup is bust. The cop claims D1, the doc stays quiet and protects them. Mafia left to find the doc while the cop is 1. confirmed town, and 2. creates a steady towncore. Anything but that.
What happens if there is a godfather
Post by: notquitethere on November 17, 2022, 11:18:20 am
Post by: webadict on November 17, 2022, 11:28:15 am
To be honest, I think it might be a bit of mafia burnout/people being busy in the run-up to the holidays... if you want a game to start soon, quickly checking who's around to play at all might come before deciding which kind of game.Maybe a small game might be a better idea, then. I don't mind running a small game (the bot can automate all the iRobot PMs, so any number of players can play that without a mod).
I had a few games of One Night Ultimate Webwolf, which had some easier to play with roles and such, to make the game easier (Some roles had time-sensitive Actions that relied on them being ordered in a certain way that were either reworked or something to that effect.) Not sure how close One Night and One Day are.Just a normal one with a cop, a doctor, and mafia. Simple and clean. (And likely to be a trainwreck due to bay12 meta.)That setup is bust. The cop claims D1, the doc stays quiet and protects them. Mafia left to find the doc while the cop is 1. confirmed town, and 2. creates a steady towncore. Anything but that.
I'm up for running One Day Ultimate Mafia in about a month, as I'm running two big forum games and I don't have room for more.
Don't have abilities conditional on whether or not someone has claimed, that's rubbish and creates weird edge cases and extra work for the GM. Strongman, godfather etc. counts as "anything but that", sure.^ Don't do more work than you have to.
Post by: EuchreJack on November 17, 2022, 12:49:31 pm
My game is also super campy. If you're not Tric, Jim, or Knightwing64, it might not seem as cool.
However, Max & Roden have roles inspired by them...
Post by: heydude6 on November 17, 2022, 01:16:15 pm
I just looked at the version that was put up on FG&RP, it makes a lot of changes to the original rules that I don't think would have worked out very well. The visuals were also very lacking.
I can at least promise you guys that this attempt will turn out better than the previous one. For this first game I plan on running this as faithfully as possible, with the only changes being some time limits.
Post by: Mephansteras on November 17, 2022, 01:29:31 pm
I'm not opposed to running something if there is a lot of interest for it, but perfectly happy to let other people do stuff. Especially if it's mostly a mafia burnout kind of thing.
Nothing wrong with a lull for a bit if that's what's needed.
Post by: EuchreJack on November 17, 2022, 06:00:08 pm
Refined to be less scum-sided than the first attempt.
Post by: Egan_BW on November 17, 2022, 06:19:28 pm
Post by: EuchreJack on November 17, 2022, 10:07:07 pm
give me the machinegun and you got it bossThe machinegun will be making a comeback, but random lots on who gets it.
Post by: Vector on November 19, 2022, 10:18:39 pm
In the meantime I'm doing what I can to not be shot or peppersprayed. Wish me luck y'all.
Post by: Mephansteras on November 20, 2022, 11:07:34 am
Post by: Vector on November 20, 2022, 12:28:10 pm
Post by: hector13 on November 20, 2022, 12:36:16 pm
Post by: webadict on November 20, 2022, 01:52:15 pm
Thanks. No cops have shown up in force yet. Shooting is not likely at this point, pepperspray is slowwwwly moving onto the table.You know how much they love pepper spraying students there.
Post by: Mephansteras on December 27, 2022, 03:14:31 pm
Post by: NJW2000 on December 27, 2022, 03:24:14 pm
Post by: EuchreJack on December 27, 2022, 03:34:12 pm
Add me into the queue to run another game.
Post by: TricMagic on December 27, 2022, 04:38:04 pm
Meanwhile, add Max Jack Knightwing to the Queue.
Post by: Vector on December 27, 2022, 05:18:05 pm
Post by: EuchreJack on December 27, 2022, 05:33:43 pm
I've honesty forgotten what Unrest was supposed to be. So remove that one.
Meanwhile, add Max Jack Knightwing to the Queue.
Hm, does this mean I get to run something other than Kill Jim Jack Tric: Knightwing's Requested Revenge Series?
Post by: TricMagic on December 27, 2022, 05:56:50 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on December 27, 2022, 06:58:07 pm
It doesn't sound like anyone has any objections, so let's plan on Paranormal 27 as the next full game.
I think I'll get sign-ups going in the next day or so and we can figure out when a good start date is for everyone while it fills.
Post by: EuchreJack on December 27, 2022, 07:46:07 pm
Run Kill Tric Now as a mini game?Sure!
BANG
You iz ded. I iz da Winner!
Great game!
Post by: TricMagic on December 27, 2022, 08:09:36 pm
I was even in that game.Run Kill Tric Now as a mini game?Sure!
BANG
You iz ded. I iz da Winner!
Great game!
Post by: Knightwing64 on December 27, 2022, 08:11:01 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on December 28, 2022, 01:21:00 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 11, 2023, 02:56:25 am
My quick Mercenary Shootout Mafia could definitely use some more players so it can start. It won't take too long, I imagine.
Post by: Vector on January 11, 2023, 02:59:32 am
Post by: Jim Groovester on January 11, 2023, 03:16:30 am
Post by: EuchreJack on January 11, 2023, 05:39:29 am
If Shakerag runs his game I can probably run mine afterwards but if Shakerag elects not to run his I probably don't have enough time to flesh things out to run mine.
Looks like Web is trying to negotiate with Knightwing to co-run the pending BYOR posted by Knightwing. That should buy you all the time you need.
Post by: notquitethere on January 11, 2023, 07:21:12 am
Choose-Your-Own-Mafia 5
I've got some new ideas for this.
Post by: Shakerag on January 13, 2023, 09:30:30 am
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 15, 2023, 09:39:36 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 23, 2023, 08:48:16 pm
Who's next? Anyone want to play Knightwing's game?
Post by: NJW2000 on January 24, 2023, 09:17:48 am
If Jim needs a bit more time for "Jim's Mafia Idea", the timings should be ideal.
Post by: Jim Groovester on January 24, 2023, 01:51:48 pm
How much interest is there in a collective resource management mafia game? I.E., players generate resources; power roles, lynches, and nightkills consume resources; resources can be given, traded, stolen, etc.; and to make things interesting there are fewer resources generated per day/night cycle than power roles that would consume them.
I'd want nine players to give the game time for the resource mechanics to play out. If that sounds dumb then I should probably forfeit the slot or drop down a few places for a different game idea.
Post by: Mephansteras on January 24, 2023, 01:56:19 pm
Post by: notquitethere on January 24, 2023, 02:48:56 pm
Post by: EuchreJack on January 24, 2023, 05:14:05 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 12, 2023, 03:01:54 pm
Do I run another shootout, or maybe a small classic setup?
Post by: NJW2000 on February 12, 2023, 04:23:26 pm
Post by: Jim Groovester on February 13, 2023, 10:38:47 pm
Jim?
I can but I don't really want to.
I think I'll forfeit my slot a few pegs. Not burnt out of mafia or anything, I just want to do other stuff more than mafia right now.
Post by: Mephansteras on February 14, 2023, 10:36:39 am
Post by: NJW2000 on February 15, 2023, 07:08:14 am
If we can't get the nine players in quickly, I'd be happy to step aside for the KW BYOR or a shorter setup run in the meantime.
Post by: NJW2000 on February 15, 2023, 12:36:44 pm
Post by: zemaj on March 11, 2023, 03:01:08 pm
there any kind of player list or anything, or just informal "get in where you fit in" kind of approach?
Post by: notquitethere on March 11, 2023, 05:10:55 pm
As long as this group has no interest in going to 2-week day phases, in any case... *shudder*Bay12 often has pretty long days compared to a lot of other forums, but it's usually more like 36-72 hours rather than two weeks.
there any kind of player list or anything, or just informal "get in where you fit in" kind of approach?Because the playerbase is pretty small, we're running one game at a time. The queue for upcoming games is in the OP of this thread. The last game just ended, so another one is due to begin very soon. The game will go into signups in the Mafia subforum, and you can join the thread.
Shakerag or, failing that, Tric, you ready to begin?
Post by: TricMagic on March 12, 2023, 08:00:59 am
Post by: NJW2000 on March 12, 2023, 08:22:30 am
I assume KW's BYOR will be next.
Post by: Jim Groovester on March 12, 2023, 01:55:18 pm
Post by: TricMagic on March 12, 2023, 02:19:39 pm
Likewise, Bring 1: Death Take Thee enters the list of games.
Post by: Shakerag on March 13, 2023, 08:38:39 am
Post by: Mephansteras on March 13, 2023, 09:48:02 am
Yeah, I can just be removed from queue. Too much bloody work.
Done
Post by: EuchreJack on March 13, 2023, 02:21:18 pm
Post by: notquitethere on March 13, 2023, 02:27:03 pm
Post by: notquitethere on March 24, 2023, 02:20:29 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on April 01, 2023, 03:39:20 pm
Post by: webadict on April 01, 2023, 04:05:06 pm
Game won't go into the official signup phase until Bring 3 finishes, but this should let me finish and brainstorm roles earlier.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on April 23, 2023, 02:33:28 am
Bring 3 has ended.
BYOR 16 has started.
One Day Ultimate Mafia, as it was run and finished under the name Auto-Mafia, should probably be removed from the queue.
I might choose to run something else in Devil Suits' spot, depending on demand. I'm not sure yet, though.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 23, 2023, 12:16:44 pm
Yeah, I moved it down to hiatus. It can chill there for a while until we get formal word on if it is happening or not. If it does, it can move back.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on April 23, 2023, 04:21:41 pm
Post by: Maximum Spin on April 23, 2023, 04:23:23 pm
Post by: Vector on April 23, 2023, 04:36:10 pm
I feel like I should run some crazy bastard game. I don't actually have an idea yet, though. I'll take suggestions.
*sits quietly nearby, lurking*
Post by: heydude6 on April 23, 2023, 05:37:32 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on April 24, 2023, 01:00:39 am
Post by: Maximum Spin on April 25, 2023, 01:59:31 am
I feel like I should run some crazy bastard game. I don't actually have an idea yet, though. I'll take suggestions.Hmm, if I run it as a beginner game, I can technically jump the queue! And that also keeps me from going too far off the deep end. I'll call it... BBBYOR. A light introduction to bullshit.
ETA: I suddenly think I have a great idea for this. Please add BBBYOR Not Four: Weird and Dangerous Edition to the queue.
Post by: Egan_BW on April 25, 2023, 04:11:03 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on April 28, 2023, 09:15:45 pm
Post by: hector13 on April 28, 2023, 09:26:22 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on April 28, 2023, 09:41:22 pm
Forbidden Ritual? Ritualists conduct Rituals and are supported by Acolytes. Don't get enough support? Things go badly. Scum want to either murder everyone or conduct big scary apocalypse rituals.
FBYOR 6? Every player can level up their role. It's the mafia RPG you've all been waiting for.
Fallacy's Horrible Cults: At least two recruiting cults. Creatively nasty abilities. An experimental playhouse for your suffering.
I'm mainly asking because while Forbidden Ritual has a lot of potential, it's also a slog to develop and balance, because if I get it wrong, it'll go really wrong, not in the broken way, just in the unplayable way. It's longer from being completed than I thought it would be (BYOR 16 was surprisingly fast). I can keep working on it if it's the popular choice, but the other two options would be quicker and likely more reliable to balance. BYOR or not.
Post by: TricMagic on April 29, 2023, 04:01:25 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on April 29, 2023, 04:54:39 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on May 10, 2023, 03:00:08 am
Post by: webadict on May 19, 2023, 06:28:06 pm
Post by: Quarque on May 22, 2023, 09:26:45 am
Everybody is in the mafia, but some people are infiltrators.
An infiltrator wins if specific mafia figures on his kill list are eliminated. They do not know who the other infiltrators are.
The mafia wins if all infiltrators are eliminated.
Equipment includes guns, bullet-proof vests, poisons and antidotes.
Ideally I'd like to try this game with 6 players.
If anybody likes the idea please add the game to the queue, or at least I think that's how this subforum works?
Post by: Mephansteras on May 22, 2023, 10:26:29 am
Post by: EuchreJack on May 22, 2023, 10:30:42 am
Post by: FallacyofUrist on May 26, 2023, 03:25:13 pm
Maybe I shouldn't have tried to mix a cults game with a semi-bastard with experimental role designs.
Post by: EuchreJack on May 26, 2023, 04:37:51 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on May 26, 2023, 05:02:44 pm
...at least it lived up to it's name. And was surprisingly Town-sided.Your slot is next by the way.
Post by: EuchreJack on May 26, 2023, 10:02:43 pm
Wait what?...at least it lived up to it's name. And was surprisingly Town-sided.Your slot is next by the way.
I'm not ready!
...
I guess I could whip something up, but if hector13 or Tric have something ready to go, I will defer to them. I will start planning at any event.
Post by: EuchreJack on May 26, 2023, 10:04:34 pm
Post by: hector13 on May 26, 2023, 10:40:28 pm
Why I never!
I think the last game I ran was 2 years ago and it was a small one.
I could do a small one until someone figures a bigger one out I guess.
It’ll have to be a quick one though since I’m lazy. I might
Post by: EuchreJack on May 26, 2023, 11:33:54 pm
But I will gladly take this distraction to
Post by: heydude6 on May 27, 2023, 01:22:34 am
Since the war has started, life has stopped giving me breaks. I am currently working 10 hour night shifts at a full-time summer job to pay off a shitty loan, and it drains me of any energy I would have to work on personal projects on the weekend. I am not happy with this arrangement, and I harbour much resentment towards the people who put me in this situation. So please don't think I fail my goals lightly.
Except in this situation. With everything on my plate, I never should have assumed I'd be able to run a mafia game on top of all of my other responsibilities that I was failing to meet. It was a spontaneous decision and the lack of thought really shows. Sorry for wasting everyone's time.
And for anyone who is asking, I refuse to put the mafia archive on hiatus! Failing to complete this thing would be a betrayal of my core values.
Post by: ToonyMan on June 06, 2023, 07:41:32 am
Post by: EuchreJack on June 06, 2023, 11:11:05 am
Personally these wacky games are too much for me. I think I prefer more traditional setups with open information.Considering the importance of this suggestion, I propose that I reformat my game into the following:
Everyone Knows Toonyman is Mafia
Post by: ToonyMan on June 06, 2023, 03:27:15 pm
Post by: EuchreJack on June 06, 2023, 09:15:30 pm
Post by: Skynet on June 28, 2023, 01:41:21 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on July 20, 2023, 01:21:38 am
Post by: EuchreJack on July 23, 2023, 09:56:03 pm
I'll defer my game.
Post by: TricMagic on July 27, 2023, 03:19:04 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on July 27, 2023, 04:10:02 pm
Post by: notquitethere on July 27, 2023, 07:05:14 pm
Post by: hector13 on July 27, 2023, 07:22:35 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on July 28, 2023, 07:49:18 am
Post by: Toaster on July 29, 2023, 08:26:47 pm
I could also run a Paranormal or Supernatural if everyone's too busy or burned out to run something. August is looking pretty open for me right now.
I vote that.
Post by: EuchreJack on July 29, 2023, 10:23:45 pm
+1I could also run a Paranormal or Supernatural if everyone's too busy or burned out to run something. August is looking pretty open for me right now.
I vote that.
Post by: Mephansteras on August 02, 2023, 01:01:04 pm
Post by: hector13 on August 02, 2023, 01:05:49 pm
Other way round, let’s go for a Supernatural.
Post by: Maximum Spin on August 02, 2023, 01:07:54 pm
I think we had a Supernatural recently? I’d say Paranormal.We had both around the same time!
Therefore I vote for a Supernormal.
Post by: Maximum Spin on August 04, 2023, 02:57:25 am
Post by: Mephansteras on August 04, 2023, 10:09:21 am
I'll get a game of regular Supernatural into signups either today or tomorrow.
Post by: Mephansteras on August 07, 2023, 01:20:07 pm
Post by: EuchreJack on August 08, 2023, 10:55:24 pm
Everyone from my game sign up for Supernatural instead!
EDIT: WOW. Posted that before realizing it went from Zero to Almost Full in a day.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on September 09, 2023, 05:09:17 pm
A lot of times, the people that had the energy and interest in their game concept when they put it on the queue, turned out to just not be able to (or not want to) use their spot when it comes up. It may be better to just not have a queue, and when a game ends or is close to ending, mods can do an interest check for whatever they want to run.
To keep the subforum from getting stagnant and encourage a wider variety of mods, mods that have run a game recently should defer to both newer mods who want to try out modding, and mods that haven't run a game recently.
We've had some really complex and high-investment (from both the players and mods) games run here. Infamous games of myth and legend. These games are fantastic, but also very draining to run and play. So it's probably a good idea to run lower-complexity/difficulty/size games after games on the higher side of complexity/difficulty/size finish. This has the additional benefit of making sure there's frequently opportunities to join games that are friendlier for newer players.
Finally, this has been effectively the case for a while, but the number of games running at a given time can be kept between one and two to avoid metaphorically 'flooding the market'.
Also, Armed Forces Mafia isn't in signups currently. Rather, it's active.
Post by: Mephansteras on September 09, 2023, 07:07:55 pm
Post by: TricMagic on September 14, 2023, 10:57:51 am
Post by: FallacyofUrist on October 02, 2023, 06:53:30 pm
I'll still take the slot, though.
In terms of ideas I have...
FBYOR 6: Each player submits their own role name, which I then extrapolate into a full role. I've done this 5 times before, and maybe this time I'll manage to maim my complexity addiction and get it to work for me instead of breaking the game. Ideally, 13+ players, but anything 9 and over would be workable.
Mostly Vanilla Mafia 4: A neat little game where the roles are 'mostly vanilla', that is, they tend to be vanilla or directly modified vanilla, with scarce exceptions. The power level is relatively low. 9+ players needed.
Jade Court 2: A sequel to the diplomatic mafia game Jade Court, in which players vote to nominate those among them, and after three rounds of nomination, vote from the nominees to elect an Emperor. The Emperor's team then wins. Not everyone will get a power role, but the game will receive balance improvements from the previous iteration. Also, Sects. 10+ players needed.
Something else? I dunno, if anyone has ideas for something they'd like to see, I'm listening.
Post by: EuchreJack on October 02, 2023, 09:15:31 pm
Post by: NJW2000 on October 03, 2023, 03:36:37 am
Or even a limited numbers B-Y-O-MVMR, if that’s a thing you’d be interested in running and thought you could get a handle on the complexity creep. I’d love to see someone run one of those.
Post by: TricMagic on October 03, 2023, 08:41:51 am
Post by: Maximum Spin on October 03, 2023, 11:39:23 am
Or even a limited numbers B-Y-O-MVMR, if that’s a thing you’d be interested in running and thought you could get a handle on the complexity creep. I’d love to see someone run one of those.That sounds like a really good idea to me.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on October 03, 2023, 07:41:05 pm
Okay, but what does that even meanOr even a limited numbers B-Y-O-MVMR, if that’s a thing you’d be interested in running and thought you could get a handle on the complexity creep. I’d love to see someone run one of those.That sounds like a really good idea to me.
I’d be up for MVM or jade court.I've definitely had some good new Jade Court ideas.
Ideally I'd like to start signups tonight or tomorrow, and close them Sunday or Monday.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on October 05, 2023, 09:22:27 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on October 11, 2023, 10:05:16 pm
Who's up next?
Post by: Maximum Spin on October 11, 2023, 10:16:09 pm
Failing that, I'm sick right now, so I'd need at least a week, but I guess with all the setup involved for mine that's not a problem anyway. After me, I know NQT is currently working on a deadline, nobody's seen webadict for months... so I guess ToonyMan?
I really think you should wait a little longer to see if anyone trickles in, though.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on October 11, 2023, 10:19:33 pm
I really think you should wait a little longer to see if anyone trickles in, though.It would take three more players, and I don't think I'm getting those, either.
Post by: TricMagic on October 11, 2023, 10:26:32 pm
Well, Tric again, I guess.That would be a no from me. kicks the mafia filled can down the ladder.
Failing that, I'm sick right now, so I'd need at least a week, but I guess with all the setup involved for mine that's not a problem anyway. After me, I know NQT is currently working on a deadline, nobody's seen webadict for months... so I guess ToonyMan?
I really think you should wait a little longer to see if anyone trickles in, though.
Post by: ToonyMan on October 16, 2023, 08:22:48 am
Well, Tric again, I guess.It is my turn to shine, haha!
Failing that, I'm sick right now, so I'd need at least a week, but I guess with all the setup involved for mine that's not a problem anyway. After me, I know NQT is currently working on a deadline, nobody's seen webadict for months... so I guess ToonyMan?
I really think you should wait a little longer to see if anyone trickles in, though.
Gentle waves crash hard
The birds cry prelude the fall
A body was found
Post by: TricMagic on October 16, 2023, 12:45:04 pm
Post by: Shakerag on October 25, 2023, 08:33:50 am
I'm not gonna get enough for Catfia, cause normal games are boring apparently. shrugs.
I'm just sad no one posted that dog from FMA yet.
Post by: TricMagic on October 25, 2023, 09:14:18 am
You could be the one~ (out of two left.)I'm not gonna get enough for Catfia, cause normal games are boring apparently. shrugs.
I'm just sad no one posted that dog from FMA yet.
Post by: Shakerag on October 26, 2023, 08:31:17 am
You could be the one~ (out of two left.)I'm not gonna get enough for Catfia, cause normal games are boring apparently. shrugs.
I'm just sad no one posted that dog from FMA yet.
Hah. I have so little free time anymore the intrusive thoughts are sounding more and more reasonable.
Post by: notquitethere on October 28, 2023, 02:20:08 pm
Post by: RoseHeart on October 31, 2023, 01:50:42 am
Post by: EuchreJack on October 31, 2023, 02:02:17 am
This is just meant as laying seeds for an idea. Would it be possible the normal flow of hosting games could be subjugated to host an event game where timing is an important component? It would be a sub game and be focused on players of a kingdom sim game called Keyforged (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=182038.0). The idea would be one of the players has become a werewolf and the other citizens need to find them before it spreads, or there will be some consequence. Like wolves overrun the place for awhile. It's very niche, so regularly planned session based games would go according to plan, but this could be a fun way to imbue mafia into Keyforged, and possibly attract new people to play mafia.If you want to run a mafia game set in the Keyforged setting, recruiting your players to play on this subforum with other forumites joining as extra players, then use the results here in Keyforged, that would probably be ok.
The queue has been overthrown in favor of "More Fun", so there is no "normal flow" at this time. You can start your game whenever, although members here might be engaged with some other game that is already running or about to run, decreasing your pool of "extras".
Post by: RoseHeart on October 31, 2023, 02:46:46 am
Post by: FallacyofUrist on November 23, 2023, 07:57:04 pm
Blind Mafia is in signups.
FBYOR 6 aka Personalized Invitation Mafia is in signups.
Post by: Egan_BW on November 23, 2023, 08:25:35 pm
Gate of Dreams when.
Post by: TricMagic on December 05, 2023, 08:21:29 am
A Mischief of Birbs: A Certain Magpie's Deduction is now in signups for a limited time. A fun little speed game.
Post by: webadict on January 04, 2024, 11:39:44 am
Post by: Elephant Parade on January 04, 2024, 11:42:22 am
Post by: webadict on January 04, 2024, 11:45:54 am
Circus Mafia: Eleven mod-confirmed Jesters enter, but only one can take the crown. One day, no deadline, hammers only.I will run almost anything
Post by: TricMagic on January 04, 2024, 04:40:58 pm
1 SK, 1 shotted Cult Leader. SK needs to kill everything. And Cult Leader dies if they target SK. Town wins if Cult Leader and SK are dead with them alive. Cult wins if Town/SK get lynched to death. Power roles sprinkled in as needed. (Maybe add another SK if game is big enough. Cult Shots dependent on size of game.)Circus Mafia: Eleven mod-confirmed Jesters enter, but only one can take the crown. One day, no deadline, hammers only.I will run almost anything
Post by: Imp on January 04, 2024, 05:46:21 pm
I will run almost anything
A game Web designs, in part, to help teach me some of what he wants me to learn about Mafia, in a way not designed to lure me towards the lessons Web wants done, instead of direct confrontation/yelling. Note there can and maybe should be yelling in my actual role PM, because maybe he can even make that funny.
Post by: Imp on January 04, 2024, 05:47:00 pm
I will run almost anything
A game Web designs, in part, to help teach me some of what he wants me to learn about Mafia, in a way designed to lure me towards the lessons Web wants done, instead of direct confrontation/yelling. Note there can and maybe should be yelling in my actual role PM, because maybe he can even make that funny.
Post by: webadict on January 04, 2024, 05:52:01 pm
Each Player joins the game by sending in a Role Name. (Possibly a couple of other Players they would want to be paired with.)
Players are broken into Teams of two. In the case of an odd number of Players, one Team of three will exist.
Each Team is assigned a Role made from the combined Role Names submitted. While each Player has their own vote during the Day, votes, actions, and targets are assigned to Teams.
Post by: Maximum Spin on January 04, 2024, 06:00:26 pm
Post by: TricMagic on January 04, 2024, 06:33:46 pm
Post by: Imp on January 04, 2024, 06:44:20 pm
Post by: hector13 on January 04, 2024, 07:16:52 pm
Post by: webadict on January 04, 2024, 07:35:52 pm
That might be tricky, but it might also be an interesting way of teaching newer players the game by sticking them with more experienced ones they know they can trust.True. Some newer players get scared off because they get targeted pretty easily, so someone they both know is on their side and know is okay to ask for help from is really good! It's like a Beginner Mafia, but more personal.
The hard part is that a game would probably need... 14+ players to be viable enough.
Post by: TricMagic on January 04, 2024, 08:55:54 pm
I'd say a month or two. Be up for a February 14th date.
Post by: notquitethere on January 05, 2024, 05:18:56 pm
a CYOM twist. When? Signups in a few weeks.
Post by: EuchreJack on January 05, 2024, 08:09:10 pm
...even worse, you'd need 7+ "experienced" players.That might be tricky, but it might also be an interesting way of teaching newer players the game by sticking them with more experienced ones they know they can trust.True. Some newer players get scared off because they get targeted pretty easily, so someone they both know is on their side and know is okay to ask for help from is really good! It's like a Beginner Mafia, but more personal.
The hard part is that a game would probably need... 14+ players to be viable enough.
Post by: Lenglon on January 05, 2024, 10:26:45 pm
- Looking town as town
- Looking town as scum
- Finding scum
- Finding town
- finding roles
- coordinating town
- lying
- predicting game setup
- predicting town night actions
- predicting scum night actions
- solving for effective night options
- tracking claims
- maintaining engagement with the game
- staying calm under pressure
different new (and veteran) players bring different things to the table, and will want / need help with different stuff. It won't help a newbie if the vet they're paired with has trouble with the same things they want help with.
Post by: EuchreJack on January 05, 2024, 10:32:19 pm
worse still, different vets bring different skillsets.I trust Web's ability to rig the system to avoid mismatches ;D
- Looking town as town
- Looking town as scum
- Finding scum
- Finding town
- finding roles
- coordinating town
- lying
- predicting game setup
- predicting town night actions
- predicting scum night actions
- solving for effective night options
- tracking claims
- maintaining engagement with the game
- staying calm under pressure
different new (and veteran) players bring different things to the table, and will want / need help with different stuff. It won't help a newbie if the vet they're paired with has trouble with the same things they want help with.
Hm, I think it would be called Mason Mafia, since all town players are Masons.
Post by: TricMagic on January 06, 2024, 10:03:35 am
Post by: Imp on January 06, 2024, 10:08:33 am
Post by: webadict on January 08, 2024, 07:31:33 pm
Basically, a monster-fighting crew take on the Evil among them with a variety of powers. Semi-open setup with known Town role archetypes that can be mixed and matched, the Evil is also somewhat known, and, lastly, one Town Player assigned as the Chosen One, whose life empowers the Town and whose death empowers the Evil. Basically, think a combination of Supernatural, Paranormal, and a bit of Assassins in the Palace mechanics with more of a Buffy flavor on roles.
Otherwise, if that proves to not be popular enough, I will instead run Bring Your Own Bastard Role, a Bastard BYOR where roles that would be outside the realms of fair and balanced run rampant.
And if those aren't wanted, I could just run my own BYOR, but BYOR overload will kick in eventually.
Post by: Imp on January 08, 2024, 07:39:23 pm
Post by: hector13 on January 08, 2024, 07:51:51 pm
Post by: Maximum Spin on January 08, 2024, 08:05:13 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 08, 2024, 10:04:28 pm
Post by: Elephant Parade on January 08, 2024, 10:34:04 pm
Post by: EuchreJack on January 09, 2024, 03:55:28 am
Post by: Elephant Parade on January 12, 2024, 09:38:07 pm
Bring Your Own Monster
Bring Your Own Book
Bring Your Own Class
Bring Your Own Pokemon
Post by: TricMagic on January 12, 2024, 09:55:56 pm
Post by: EuchreJack on January 12, 2024, 10:12:33 pm
Post by: Imp on January 13, 2024, 12:07:36 am
Bring Your Own Monster
Bring Your Own Book
Bring Your Own Class
Bring Your Own Pokemon
Starts to answer, then freezes and corrects the answer
Oh. I just realized I can probably get what I'd want to play from any of these, with probably minimal adjustment(s) if any.
Carry on, this sounds great! Interested in any, least interested in the Pokemon, unless we can create them off the cuff entirely, but that's a weak yes for even that one.
Post by: EuchreJack on January 13, 2024, 01:29:03 am
Post by: Crystalizedmire on January 13, 2024, 09:55:02 am
Post by: notquitethere on January 13, 2024, 04:28:19 pm
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 13, 2024, 04:33:49 pm
Post by: Elephant Parade on January 13, 2024, 04:35:42 pm
Funnily enough I was thinking about a BYO-Pokemon myself. You could have role mechanics based around the different element strength/weakness charts, there are lots of possibilities with it.I was considering doing just that, though I'm not sure how well it'd work with fewer players than types. It might be OK with a simplified type chart a la the TCG's.
I like BYOBook and BYOClass the most, assuming Class is 'RPG Class'.It is.
Post by: TricMagic on January 13, 2024, 04:36:34 pm
Drops an entire Classroom on folks heads.Funnily enough I was thinking about a BYO-Pokemon myself. You could have role mechanics based around the different element strength/weakness charts, there are lots of possibilities with it.I was considering doing just that, though I'm not sure how well it'd work with fewer players than types. It might be OK with a simplified type chart a la the TCG's.I like BYOBook and BYOClass the most, assuming Class is 'RPG Class'.It is.
Post by: Maximum Spin on January 13, 2024, 04:37:08 pm
Post by: Elephant Parade on January 13, 2024, 04:37:13 pm
EJ beat you to that one.Drops an entire Classroom on folks heads.Funnily enough I was thinking about a BYO-Pokemon myself. You could have role mechanics based around the different element strength/weakness charts, there are lots of possibilities with it.I was considering doing just that, though I'm not sure how well it'd work with fewer players than types. It might be OK with a simplified type chart a la the TCG's.I like BYOBook and BYOClass the most, assuming Class is 'RPG Class'.It is.
I think it should mean socioeconomic class, where the quality of the role corresponds to how much the players pay you.Sounds good to me!
Post by: hector13 on January 13, 2024, 04:41:06 pm
There’s a lot to it.
Post by: Crystalizedmire on January 13, 2024, 05:02:39 pm
"Moby Dick" is probably a valid role for all 4 games...Ah yes, my favourite rpg class, Moby Dick.
Post by: Persus13 on January 13, 2024, 07:23:58 pm
Post by: EuchreJack on January 13, 2024, 07:29:39 pm
Post by: hector13 on January 13, 2024, 07:33:41 pm
Post by: Imp on January 14, 2024, 01:14:41 am
Post by: notquitethere on January 14, 2024, 08:06:42 am
I was considering doing just that, though I'm not sure how well it'd work with fewer players than types. It might be OK with a simplified type chart a la the TCG's.A more
Post by: TricMagic on January 14, 2024, 11:14:17 am
Post by: Imp on January 14, 2024, 11:44:06 am
I've got a mean idea I want to try. No spoilers on what, though would need a lot of players and someone to sanity check it.:( I'd probably in, but so far, this sounds minimally aligned with my preferences.
Post by: notquitethere on January 14, 2024, 01:26:40 pm
Here's a stab at it... (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=134925.msg8524174#msg8524174)I was considering doing just that, though I'm not sure how well it'd work with fewer players than types. It might be OK with a simplified type chart a la the TCG's.A morecompicatedexpansive way of doing it would be to allow everyone to pick a pokemon but have a game phase where they can catch new pokemon. You're eliminated when you run out of 'mons, or are ejected from the tournament in the day phase. I'm imagining Team Rocket as mafia would try to steal pokemon on routes to different wild zones. There are a lot of creative ways pokemon gameplay mechanics could be introduced.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on January 18, 2024, 07:43:09 pm
Post by: webadict on January 19, 2024, 12:29:03 am
Post by: Egan_BW on January 19, 2024, 02:04:54 am
Post by: notquitethere on January 19, 2024, 04:53:17 am
He's gotta finish Superhero Manager's final update first! >:|I'm finishing it off today! I've cleared my whole schedule.
Still, no harm in putting Choose-Your-Own-Spheres into signups. (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=182347.0)
Post by: FallacyofUrist on February 10, 2024, 10:59:23 pm
Post by: notquitethere on February 10, 2024, 11:02:06 pm
This time it's spherical
Post by: Elephant Parade on February 10, 2024, 11:23:27 pm
Post by: TricMagic on February 11, 2024, 10:42:09 am
Welp, time for Bring 1. Unless people want Mafia Heist rn.
Post by: webadict on February 11, 2024, 12:20:59 pm
I'm finishing up the OP for Demonology because I got lazy and didn't finish it yet. It'll be up within 12 hours... Or else...
Post by: webadict on February 11, 2024, 12:51:11 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on February 11, 2024, 01:26:41 pm
Post by: EuchreJack on March 05, 2024, 10:20:26 pm
Praise
Post by: TricMagic on March 15, 2024, 04:37:12 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on April 01, 2024, 12:25:13 pm
Do we want to clear the board and start over? For anyone who's still interested in something on the current lists, you're welcome to have me put them back.
Here are the current lists (for posterity if we do wipe them):
Games in Queue:
- Choose-Your-Own-Mafia 5 - notquitethere
- Dwarf Fortress Mafia 4 - Webadict
- Haiku Mafia - ToonyMan
- Skynet’s Seduction II - Skynet
- Maximum Spin's Supernormal Mafia - Maximum Spin
- Choose Your Own Spheres 2 - nqt
- Bring your Own Monster - Elephant Parade
Games on Hiatus
- BYOR 4 Made By Noob Edition (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=180223.0)
- BBBYOR Not Four (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=182140.0)
- Bring 1: Death Take Thee - TricMagic (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=182445.msg8533637#msg8533637)
Planned Games:
- King of the Mafia
- Devil Suits - FallacyofUrist
- You Only Have One Shot - Webadict
- Trouble in TolyK Town - Tolyk
- Jim's Mafia idea - Jim Groovester
- Forbidden Ritual - FallacyofUrist
- BYORoguelike - Toaster and FallacyofUrist
Post by: Elephant Parade on April 01, 2024, 12:53:53 pm
Post by: Maximum Spin on April 01, 2024, 03:35:14 pm
Post by: webadict on April 01, 2024, 05:29:31 pm
Or I can just run a BYOR whatever idc.
Post by: Crystalizedmire on April 08, 2024, 11:17:19 am
Post by: TricMagic on April 08, 2024, 11:59:15 am
A game where everyone has 1 Vote. No other discussion, just Vote. (Bit late for April Fools, but eh.)
Post by: Elephant Parade on April 08, 2024, 12:29:24 pm
You Have 1 VoteThis might be a pretty fun meme game if you ran it with an extremely favorable town:scum ratio.
A game where everyone has 1 Vote. No other discussion, just Vote. (Bit late for April Fools, but eh.)
Post by: Imp on April 08, 2024, 03:15:24 pm
Just run something Imp won't get distracted by since she is participating in Championships
Thank you hugely!
Umm, I miss us very much.
I'm learning manners and exhaustion in the other forum(s).
I will likely post far less, because I can post so much in sooo many places. There's a chance I'll be in 6 games at once.
grins
I'm not scared of a complex game, it'll feel like coming back home. Hope you'll have me back! I might come back better, calmer, and nicer.
Post by: EuchreJack on April 08, 2024, 09:17:16 pm
Post by: TricMagic on April 09, 2024, 05:23:20 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on April 09, 2024, 06:17:06 pm
On another note, I've cleared out the lists. Left EP's game in since he requested it. If you have something you want to add to the queue let me know.
Post by: FallacyofUrist on May 05, 2024, 08:34:18 pm