Post by: Mephansteras on March 11, 2009, 02:27:45 pm
The basic premise is that a small town has been infested with Doppelgangers. They have eaten several prominent citizens and taken their bodies and memories for their own. Once they were firmly entrenched, they started killing and eating people at night. Many people have fled in terror, others went on a rampage. In the chaos, one of the Doppelgangers was killed, and reverted to it's real form. The remaining townsfolk now know that something bad is happening, and that any of them could be a monster. A search of the area has revealed a number of pods from whence the doppelgangers came. The town knows how many are left. The only task now is to identify them and kill them, before they eat the rest of the town alive.
Here are the possible roles:
- Townie - Normal citizen. No powers, just your wits and a desire to live
- Doppelganger - Body-snatching, man-eating monster. You want to feast on human flesh and avoid being caught
- Doppelganger leader - More powerful and adept then the others, the leader is immune to detection short of death
- Agent - An FBI agent investigating the situation. Can investigate one person per night to determine if they are human
- Doctor - Can prevent one person from being killed by anything other then a lynch. Only protects against one attack a night
- War Vet - Is trigger happy and will kill anyone targeting them at night, although they still die if the night target was deadly. Can choose to turn off this ability for a night (leaving themselves vulnerable)
- Alien - The alien is also investigating the town. However, it has it's own goals and it's own win/lose situation
The alien will have 1 of the following goals.- Contact the FBI - The Alien chooses one person a night. If that person is the Agent, the Alien wins. The Alien vanishes after it has won (goes to negotiate with the government). If that person is not the agent, however, the Alien kills them to keep their identity from being revealed. If the person is a doppelganger, there is a 50% chance the Alien will be killed instead. The Alien loses if the Agent is killed or if the town loses.
- Grab a Doppelganger for Study - Once during the game, the Alien chooses a person at night and takes them onboard their space ship for study. Both Vanish. If the person was a Doppelganger, the Alien wins. If not, the Alien loses.
- Survive - The Alien is there for some other purpose, and is simply hiding as a human. Their only goal is to survive until the end of the game. They win as long as they are alive, regardless of which side wins.
- Exterminator - The doppelganger infestation is a danger to the Alien's people, and it and all traces of it must be wiped from the Earth. The Alien kills one person a night. The Alien wins when they are the only one left alive. He has a 50% chance of surviving an attack on the Vet (He has better guns, but the Vet is waiting to shoot people)
I've written a perl script to pick roles and whatnot randomly. It has some rules that it follows, but it should make for a nice amount of randomness to the set-up.
Not all roles are guaranteed. In fact, it's quite possible to have a game with nothing but normal doppelgangers and humans.
There can be more then 1 alien, although each will have different goals.
There will only be, at most, 1 Agent, 1 Doctor, and 1 Doppelganger Leader.
Rule on PMs: Private Messages are allowed. However, I must be copied on all PMs. Failure to do so will result in very bad things happening to you. In addition you may NOT quote any PM from me, either your initial Role-PM or any role-related PMs. (Night role results, etc). I'll make an exception for specifically rules-related questions. This is to keep the suspense and uncertainty in the game high. You're not supposed to know if the other person is lying or not, and quoting me gives too much weight to whatever it is you're saying.
Nights will last for 24 hours or until I've heard from each player with a night role, whichever comes first.
In the event of night role collision, I'll roll to see what happens first. For example, if the doppelgangers decide to kill someone who is actually the extermination alien, I'll roll to see if they get him before he kills someone else or not.
Days will last for 48 hours or until everyone has voted (if there is a long period of inactivity after everyone votes I'll end the day to keep things moving).
In the event of a tie, one of two things will happen. If there are only two vote camps, representing over half of the players, then both people will be lynched. If there are more than three vote camps or fewer then half the populace has voted then no lynch will take place.
All votes should be colored red to make it easy for me to spot them.
Feel free to ask for clarification on any rule.
Also, if there are any changes to the rules that people think are necessary feel free to discuss that as well.
The current plan is to start Monday 3/23
Players list:
- NUKE9.13
- chaoticjosh
- Cheeetar
- Pandarsenic
- webadict
- Alexhans
- Katsuun
- Org
- Kashyyk
- Beacon80
- Karlito
- inaluct
- Solifuge
- Masami Phonix
- Archangel
Previous Games List
Game 1 (http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=31763.0) Winners under spoiler
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 11, 2009, 02:55:22 pm
I'll join.
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 11, 2009, 03:07:43 pm
Post by: Cheeetar on March 11, 2009, 03:50:22 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 11, 2009, 07:09:41 pm
chaoticjosh, what's different?
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 11, 2009, 07:13:39 pm
So fucking in on this.
chaoticjosh, what's different?
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Not all roles are guaranteed. In fact, it's quite possible to have a game with nothing but normal doppelgangers and humans.
There can be more then 1 alien, although each will have different goals.
There will only be, at most, 1 Agent, 1 Doctor, and 1 Doppelganger Leader.
This basically means that, instead of there being a guaranteed 1 agent, 1 doctor, 1 D. leader, and a predetermined amount of Doppelganger, the number of doppelgangers and humans and there roles are determined randomly. So we may not have a doctor at all, but an agent and some humans. Generally screws with peoples expectations of what there's supposed to be. Of course, I'm sure Meph will sanity check it to make sure it's reasonable.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 11, 2009, 07:14:37 pm
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 11, 2009, 07:17:10 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 11, 2009, 07:24:13 pm
With my program, it'll give us more possible variations because I don't have to lay them all out ahead of time.
The ratio of town-vs-antitown characters will be about the same, though. So with no roles and no aliens you'd get 3 dopps vs 9 humans with 12 players. Aliens then muck with that ratio a bit since they are fairly neutral, so nothing is totally guaranteed.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 11, 2009, 07:27:30 pm
Meph, you should join Ridiculous Mafia. :P
Post by: webadict on March 11, 2009, 10:24:51 pm
Post by: Alexhans on March 12, 2009, 09:54:38 am
Post by: Mephansteras on March 12, 2009, 04:33:53 pm
We still only have 6 people, so I'm going to keep the sign-up phase going for a while longer. 8 is the absolute minimum I'd play with, 12 is decent (what we had last time), and 16 or more would be best.
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 12, 2009, 05:06:58 pm
Post by: Katsuun on March 12, 2009, 05:07:06 pm
Post by: Org on March 12, 2009, 05:19:49 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 12, 2009, 05:20:09 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 12, 2009, 11:19:38 pm
Post by: webadict on March 13, 2009, 07:45:20 am
How did Ridiculous Mafia get over 20 while this hasn't hit 10? O_oIt was the word "Ridiculous"
Post by: Katsuun on March 13, 2009, 08:19:15 am
Post by: Mephansteras on March 13, 2009, 01:09:16 pm
Hehe. Just kidding, I'm not upset or anything. :P
But it does mean that I'll probably have to keep sign-ups open for a while, though. I suppose I'll shoot for starting Monday, assuming we have enough players by then.
Post by: Kashyyk on March 13, 2009, 01:23:17 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 13, 2009, 06:58:12 pm
I'd like to get 16 or so, but I guess we'll see how much interest this game gets with all the other mafia games running.
Post by: Zai on March 13, 2009, 08:27:30 pm
Unless I can sign up and be inactive for next week without anyone caring too much.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 13, 2009, 08:36:20 pm
If you wait a week for this to start, I'll join. <.<Same. 15th-22nd for me.
Unless I can sign up and be inactive for next week without anyone caring too much.
Post by: Mephansteras on March 14, 2009, 07:07:12 pm
Post by: Beacon80 on March 14, 2009, 09:58:40 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 14, 2009, 10:27:19 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 16, 2009, 11:53:56 am
Are you two both good to start on the 23rd?
Post by: Mephansteras on March 17, 2009, 03:47:51 pm
Come on, we need more people! I'd like to have at least 16 players.
Post by: webadict on March 17, 2009, 05:15:27 pm
Bumping for noticability.I think it's because everyone is on Spring Break.
Come on, we need more people! I'd like to have at least 16 players.
Post by: Mephansteras on March 17, 2009, 05:18:36 pm
Well, hopefully things'll pick up next week.
Post by: Org on March 17, 2009, 05:45:19 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 18, 2009, 04:19:13 pm
Here are the latest 3 runs.
Run 1:
There are 11 players, 2 of which are Doppelgangers and 1 are aliens (0.18)
| Player | Race | Role | Goal |
| Alexhans | Human | None | Town Wins |
| Beacon80 | Doppelganger | None | Town Loses |
| Cheeetar | Alien | None | Capture Doppelganger |
| Kashyyk | Human | Army Vet | Town Wins |
| Katsuun | Human | Army Vet | Town Wins |
| NUKE9.13 | Doppelganger | Leader | Town Loses |
| Org | Human | Doctor | Town Wins |
| Pandarsenic | Human | Army Vet | Town Wins |
| Zaithmeister | Human | Agent | Town Wins |
| chaoticjosh | Human | None | Town Wins |
| webadict | Human | None | Town Wins |
Run 2:
There are 11 players, 2 of which are Doppelgangers and 1 are aliens (0.15)
| Player | Race | Role | Goal |
| Alexhans | Doppelganger | None | Town Loses |
| Beacon80 | Human | Agent | Town Wins |
| Cheeetar | Alien | None | Capture Doppelganger |
| Kashyyk | Doppelganger | Leader | Town Loses |
| Katsuun | Human | None | Town Wins |
| NUKE9.13 | Human | None | Town Wins |
| Org | Human | None | Town Wins |
| Pandarsenic | Human | None | Town Wins |
| Zaithmeister | Human | None | Town Wins |
| chaoticjosh | Human | Doctor | Town Wins |
| webadict | Human | None | Town Wins |
Run 3:
There are 11 players, 2 of which are Doppelgangers and 2 are aliens (0.19)
| Player | Race | Role | Goal |
| Alexhans | Human | None | Town Wins |
| Beacon80 | Human | Doctor | Town Wins |
| Cheeetar | Doppelganger | None | Town Loses |
| Kashyyk | Alien | None | Exterminate all players |
| Katsuun | Human | None | Town Wins |
| NUKE9.13 | Doppelganger | Leader | Town Loses |
| Org | Human | None | Town Wins |
| Pandarsenic | Alien | None | Capture Doppelganger |
| Zaithmeister | Human | None | Town Wins |
| chaoticjosh | Human | None | Town Wins |
| webadict | Human | None | Town Wins |
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 18, 2009, 04:32:33 pm
Now, can you make it run simulated games?
Post by: Mephansteras on March 18, 2009, 04:35:03 pm
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 18, 2009, 04:37:42 pm
Om nom nom.
*Yes I realise that 2 out of 3 is insignificant, I just thought it was funny.
Post by: Kashyyk on March 18, 2009, 04:39:25 pm
Edit: Although I'm against the town twice, that doesn't mean anything!
Post by: Mephansteras on March 18, 2009, 04:40:02 pm
Nah. That'd only matter if I was running a bunch of these in quick succession (like my tests above). It's random enough for the one-time beginning of the game.
Post by: Mephansteras on March 18, 2009, 04:41:21 pm
There are 11 players, 2 of which are Doppelgangers and 1 are aliens (0.15)
| Player | Race | Role | Goal |
| Alexhans | Human | Doctor | Town Wins |
| Beacon80 | Alien | None | Capture Doppelganger |
| Cheeetar | Doppelganger | None | Town Loses |
| Kashyyk | Human | None | Town Wins |
| Katsuun | Doppelganger | None | Town Loses |
| NUKE9.13 | Human | None | Town Wins |
| Org | Human | Army Vet | Town Wins |
| Pandarsenic | Human | None | Town Wins |
| Zaithmeister | Human | None | Town Wins |
| chaoticjosh | Human | None | Town Wins |
| webadict | Human | None | Town Wins |
Yup, that changes things a bit. And, yes, I'm bored at work at the moment.
Post by: Karlito on March 18, 2009, 05:03:06 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 18, 2009, 05:06:04 pm
Post by: Kashyyk on March 18, 2009, 05:17:40 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 18, 2009, 05:20:53 pm
Post by: Kashyyk on March 18, 2009, 05:22:30 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 18, 2009, 05:23:39 pm
Post by: Kashyyk on March 18, 2009, 05:45:13 pm
Post by: inaluct on March 18, 2009, 05:47:46 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 18, 2009, 05:50:55 pm
And...we're getting pretty far afield here. We should probably move this conversation over to the general chat area.
To bring this back on topic, here is a run with Karlito and inaluct added in!
There are 13 players, 3 of which are Doppelgangers and 2 are aliens (0.18)
| Player | Race | Role | Goal |
| Alexhans | Human | Army Vet | Town Wins |
| Beacon80 | Human | None | Town Wins |
| Cheeetar | Human | None | Town Wins |
| Karlito | Doppelganger | None | Town Loses |
| Kashyyk | Human | None | Town Wins |
| Katsuun | Human | None | Town Wins |
| NUKE9.13 | Human | Agent | Town Wins |
| Org | Alien | None | Contact Agent |
| Pandarsenic | Alien | None | Exterminate all players |
| Zaithmeister | Human | None | Town Wins |
| chaoticjosh | Human | Doctor | Town Wins |
| inaluct | Doppelganger | None | Town Loses |
| webadict | Doppelganger | None | Town Loses |
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 18, 2009, 05:56:11 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 18, 2009, 06:01:26 pm
Post by: Alexhans on March 18, 2009, 07:53:22 pm
Well... I thought about programming some kind of mafia bots to simulate the outcome of my Mafia Bajo Flores Mod but I had the problem of having to find out what were the player's real motives in doing what they do... To have a realistic AI you'd have to build some kind of neural network were the bots remembered a lot of things and reacted depending on their personality to the different things that happen in the game.
Post by: Mephansteras on March 18, 2009, 08:30:05 pm
And, yeah, it'd be an interesting challenge. I've been slowly working on a learning AI (not NN based) that might be able to do it. But it's not quite that far along yet.
Post by: Alexhans on March 18, 2009, 11:08:03 pm
Won always? How do you mean?
When i was town... town won... when i was not... Town lost. :P
Post by: Karlito on March 19, 2009, 06:28:18 am
Won always? How do you mean?
When i was town... town won... when i was not... Town lost. :P
That's not a result Alexhans, its the players goal.
Post by: Alexhans on March 19, 2009, 03:38:08 pm
Post by: Solifuge on March 19, 2009, 05:44:06 pm
If you're still taking people, I would be quite down with this. (Also, I was considering coding a modified IRC Bot to run IRC games of Mafia/Werewolf too, with expanded roles)
Post by: Mephansteras on March 19, 2009, 06:13:07 pm
Post by: Masami Phonix on March 19, 2009, 06:28:56 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 19, 2009, 06:45:10 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 20, 2009, 12:03:59 pm
There are 15 players, 3 of which are Doppelgangers and 2 are aliens (0.15)
| Player | Race | Role | Goal |
| Alexhans | Doppelganger | None | Town Loses |
| Beacon80 | Human | None | Town Wins |
| Cheeetar | Doppelganger | None | Town Loses |
| Karlito | Human | None | Town Wins |
| Kashyyk | Alien | None | Exterminate all players |
| Katsuun | Alien | None | Capture Doppelganger |
| Masami Phonix | Human | None | Town Wins |
| NUKE9.13 | Human | Doctor | Town Wins |
| Org | Human | None | Town Wins |
| Pandarsenic | Doppelganger | Leader | Town Loses |
| Solifuge | Human | None | Town Wins |
| Zaithmeister | Human | Agent | Town Wins |
| chaoticjosh | Human | None | Town Wins |
| inaluct | Human | None | Town Wins |
| webadict | Human | None | Town Wins |
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 20, 2009, 01:22:24 pm
What do you think Meph?
Post by: Mephansteras on March 20, 2009, 01:28:12 pm
The Agent contacting alien gets to 'visit' a player each night, if they so wish. If that person is the Agent, they win. If not, they either kill that person or fight them (if it's a dopp. Or an Exterminator alien, I guess).
The alien Hunting a Dopp for Study get's to pick one person during the game to capture at night and take off in their spaceship for study. They win if it's a Dopp, and lose otherwise. So that role is more about staying alive until your confident you know who one of the dopps is.
The survivor, of course, has no powers. They do get to be a wildcard at the end of the game, though, like Panda did.
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 20, 2009, 01:43:36 pm
Still, the exterminator has the hardest winning condition. They're alone, and have no other protection to speak of. The only way I can see one winning would be if they sided with the townies at first, not using his powers at all, then once he's positive that the dopps are killed off, he uses his killing power to make it seem as though dopps still exist, and therefore lynching continued. Then managed to gambit and kill every other townie. When it eventually comes down to three people (which it would in that scenario) it would be very intense for the Exterminator. If the agent still exists into the late-game though, then god help him.
What I'm trying to say is: the exterminator would have to be a commando with a myriad of unusual skills, seeing as how he has no allies.
Suggestions:
being able to survive any non-lynching death once.
being able to deduce the identity of players (limited?)
being immune to detection by the agent
being able to fake his own death (I'm not sure how it'd work, but I thought it sounded cool.)
being able to automatically discern the identity of anyone attacks him in the night.
Post by: Mephansteras on March 20, 2009, 01:57:32 pm
This is also partly why I made the Agent Seeker (who's on the town's side) also kill anyone he visits who isn't the Agent. That way, it won't be obvious which type of Alien is doing the extra killing at night.
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 20, 2009, 02:02:47 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 20, 2009, 02:03:55 pm
Post by: Archangel on March 22, 2009, 03:41:07 am
Post by: Mephansteras on March 22, 2009, 10:43:22 am
Post by: Mephansteras on March 23, 2009, 02:25:16 pm
This used to be a quiet town. Small, out of the way, and nothing bad ever really seemed to happen here. Oh, sure, there were the small things. People have accidents, bad weather damaging the crops, stuff like that. But nothing really bad, like murderer. Not until last week, anyway.
Last week a strange fellow was found wandering on the side of the road. He seemed lost, confused, and pretty much out of it. So the kind person who found him took him to the local clinic. They checked him over, figured he was just drunk or on some sort of drugs, and gave him a room for the night.
The next morning, the local Sheriff came to the clinic to check on this strange person. He'd wanted to see if the man was any better, sober enough to answer questions, at least. Instead, he found a bloodbath. The doctors, nurses, and other patients had all been brutally slain. Many of them looked to have been gnawed on by some sort of animal. As he looked around, the Sheriff caught sight of the strange man, hunched over the body of a nurse and chewing on her arm. Horrified, the Sheriff pulled out his gun and shot the man, emptying the clip into him.
What happened then frightened him even more. The man fell backwards, spasming. As he died, his body changed. His skin grew pale white, and slightly blotchy. His face lost all features, even eyes, except for a large mouth full of sharp teeth. His hand elongated, and his nails grew into hideous claws. This was no man, it was some sort of shape-changing monster!
As word spread of what happened, people began to panic. Many left the town. Others vanished in the night, the Sherriff among them. Search parties were sent out to find the missing people. They were never found. However, what was found was disturbing indeed. Underneath the main bridge were five strange greenish-white pods. Man-sized, ripped open, and empty. Five pods...five of these monsters? With one dead, that means there are four more around. Four more doppelgangers, who could be anyone. Many more people fled the area that day.
That night, that bridge and the other two smaller bridges were destroyed by large explosions. Those of you here are all that are left of the town, and there is no escape. It is kill or be killed.
You all agreed to meet in the town hall each day, attempt to figure out who is one of these body-snatchers, and kill them. It is your only hope of survival.
Day one is up and PMs are going out now. Let the paranoia commence!
Reminder: You may freely PM the other players during both the Day and Night phases. However, I must be copied on all PMs. Also, PMs from me may not be quoted. This is done to maintain the level of uncertainty in the game. (except for rules clarifications, of course).
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 23, 2009, 03:36:11 pm
Post by: Solifuge on March 23, 2009, 03:45:56 pm
Soon after sunrise, a lanky man walks into the town hall, concern clear on his face. His clothes are still disheveled from what was, undoubtedly, a sleepless night for the entire town. It had become a nightmarish place overnight... a prison. And they were locked in this prison with the worst kinds of monsters imaginable... the monsters that lurk between paranoid delusions and mortal fear.
He looks around nervously, tightly clutching the anonymous note posted to their doors late last night, after explosions rocked the city streets:
"URGEANT NOTICE - ALL CITEZENS REPORT TO TOWN HALL FOR EMERGANCY MEETING"
Judging by the grammatical errors on the hand-scrawled notice, the writer could have been anyone... or anything. He began looking around for another person, his face equally eager and cautious.
Post by: Mephansteras on March 23, 2009, 03:53:12 pm
About time.
Yeah, took longer to get going then I'd have liked. But we do have 16 people this time, so that should make things interesting.
Oh, and Day one will go until ~5pm Pacific Wednesday. I'd like everyone to get in on things and vote each day, if possible.
And since Solifuge has started off Role-playing, I'll encourage everyone else to do the same. Might make things a bit more engaging for everyone. 8)
Post by: Solifuge on March 23, 2009, 04:02:51 pm
Post by: inaluct on March 23, 2009, 04:07:51 pm
The man trips. The grenade launcher lands hard, and fires it's payload straight into a nearby Lexus, reducing it to a twisted, smoldering wreck.
"Ugh."
The man dusts himself off, throws the empty grenade launcher off into the bushes, and walks into the town hall to tell people that someone's car just exploded. It must have been the work of aliens.
Post by: Org on March 23, 2009, 04:12:35 pm
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 23, 2009, 04:14:43 pm
"It is good you have come. We have decided that the only way to save ourselves is to kill one man each day. One man we suspect to be an alien."
NUKE9.13 indicates the grenade launcher on the table
"This is what we'll use to kill him. 'twill be fast if not painless, and it will provide at least some entertainment in these dark times..."
The townsfolk cheer this dramatic but necessary approach. The alien scum will die!
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 23, 2009, 04:17:42 pm
(http://www.libertyfilmfestival.com/libertas/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/adam-sandler.jpg)
He sits down in an awesome, sexy way.
"Gentleman, we have a formidable task ahead of us. We must deduce the menace among us, or all of us may perish."
Post by: inaluct on March 23, 2009, 04:19:15 pm
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 23, 2009, 04:19:52 pm
Post by: Solifuge on March 23, 2009, 04:21:52 pm
"Judging by the fact that they haven't showed up and killed us all already, they can only strike at night, so we're at least safe for now. Still, how are we going to decide who gets..." he indicates the grenade launcher "tested first?"
Post by: Cheeetar on March 23, 2009, 04:34:52 pm
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 23, 2009, 04:38:32 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 23, 2009, 05:00:57 pm
e: Missing verb in one sentence makes me sound retarded. Also, fixing verb tenses.
Post by: Solifuge on March 23, 2009, 05:11:37 pm
Post by: Kashyyk on March 23, 2009, 05:17:19 pm
All I have time for at the mo.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 23, 2009, 05:20:26 pm
Post by: webadict on March 23, 2009, 05:26:30 pm
"It's true... the man is no stranger. He's lived across the street as long as I can remember." says the lanky fellow, his voice quivering nervously in such a crowd. "A-and I find I must agree with the gentleman over there, as we need to be as rational as possible. Random accusations and panic is going to lead to rash decisions, which gives them the advantage. We need to be careful to separate them, who clearly want our blood, and those who are merely concerned citizens."An old man stands up, leaning on his cane. He speaks with a soft voice, "Does that reassure any of us? Of course not! Who knows how long they've been among us! Do you? Can you be sure of his innocence at all? I think not! We're all suspicious, and without knowing who is whom we'll never live to find out! I think you're a little suspicious, Solifuge!" he shouts, pointing a long, bony finger at Solifuge.
Post by: inaluct on March 23, 2009, 05:29:11 pm
Post by: Org on March 23, 2009, 05:30:59 pm
Chaoticjosh.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 23, 2009, 05:32:52 pm
He pauses at inaluct and org's statements. "But Adam Sandler didn't live here, did he?"
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 23, 2009, 05:34:24 pm
Hey Meph, when does the day end?
Post by: Org on March 23, 2009, 05:35:36 pm
Fine. Ill give. For now.
No Lynch.
Post by: inaluct on March 23, 2009, 05:35:52 pm
Post by: webadict on March 23, 2009, 05:36:59 pm
"He asserts something as a known, while either secretly knowing them both to be villains or by lying to us about the said known. Therefore, he is a liar, or he is a monster. Whichever the case, his removal would certainly be helpful."
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 23, 2009, 05:38:27 pm
"You're probably a doppelganger. A doppelganger of Adam Sandler. Why else would you look just like him?"
"I can assure you Inaluct, I am NOT Adam Sandler, I was just born this way! Why can't you believe me?"
Post by: Mephansteras on March 23, 2009, 05:39:15 pm
Hey Meph, when does the day end?
Not until 5pm Pacific Wednesday. Days will all be roughly 48 hours (more or less). Nights will go until I get all the Night role PMs, or until 24 hours have passed.
Post by: Zai on March 23, 2009, 05:39:31 pm
An old man in the corner of the town hall stands up to speak. A rifle is strapped to his back, and a straw hat sits upon his gray-haired head.
"I don't rightly know who to vote against at the moment. But I must say that I also find chaoticjosh's (CJ's?) resemblance to Adam Sandler uncanned. I think he need be investigatitted right away by anybody who is able to do so. But I must ask that anyone who is actually abilitated to do so to not reveal their identity. They might get killed right quick by the doppler-gangs."
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 23, 2009, 05:43:50 pm
Post by: Beacon80 on March 23, 2009, 05:54:12 pm
"I'll not be a part of this witch hunt. I won't accuse good men without reason. No vote."
Post by: inaluct on March 23, 2009, 05:55:17 pm
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 23, 2009, 05:57:30 pm
Turns on the TV,
"Look, there he is! He's still there. I just look like him!"
Post by: inaluct on March 23, 2009, 05:58:52 pm
Post by: Zai on March 23, 2009, 06:00:09 pm
Post by: inaluct on March 23, 2009, 06:02:36 pm
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 23, 2009, 06:03:36 pm
Post by: Solifuge on March 23, 2009, 06:29:14 pm
I would thusly conclude that his resemblance to Adam Sandler merely indicates that he is an Adam Sandler look-alike... or the Doppleganger of an Adam Sandler lookalike."
The man takes a moment to clean his glasses, before continuing.
"As an aside, I will abstain from voting, until someone can present a logical argument as to why we should kill one of us, especially when we have only a 1-in-4 chance of killing one of them. We should also more closely scrutinize those who are so eager to see heads roll, proverbially speaking."
Post by: inaluct on March 23, 2009, 06:41:14 pm
Post by: Masami Phonix on March 23, 2009, 07:04:54 pm
"According to Bramford's 'Treatises on Simulacra: The Dopplerganger and You', a doppleganger must first consume the brain of their victim before assuming their form... thus if this "ChaoticJosh" were Adam Sandler's doppleganger, the origional Adam Sandler would be dead, and it would be all over the news.
The grim looking man in the back put down his copy of "Paranoia for Dummies" next to the loaded hand gun he now took everywhere with him.
"I'll point out that if somebody ate Adam Sandler's brain, chances are nobody would even notice." he said simply. "But I can't help but notice that we were discussing things civilly until Webadict started pointing fingers. Somebody is trying to stir up trouble."
Post by: Karlito on March 23, 2009, 07:52:56 pm
"The ganglydopples! Theysh here! I saw un of em ashplode a car!"
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 23, 2009, 08:08:14 pm
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 23, 2009, 08:42:15 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 23, 2009, 08:47:23 pm
Post by: inaluct on March 23, 2009, 09:00:03 pm
Inaluct throws a paper ball at Pandarsenic. It bounces off his forehead.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 23, 2009, 09:05:03 pm
Post by: webadict on March 23, 2009, 09:25:57 pm
Post by: inaluct on March 23, 2009, 09:32:25 pm
Post by: Zai on March 23, 2009, 09:46:44 pm
"I see no way to further the humanity's cause except by takin' some risks. But this is a difficulty in the process y'see. Without lynching anybody, we ain't gettin' nowhere, except behind where we is now, as these gangs'll murder us in our sleep. Unless there be an undercover agent who can discover whether people are actually people and not gang members or aliens. But we got no way of knowing if there is or not. As if there ain't no agent, then we gots no way of knowing whether people are who they are. If there isn't an agent, then some doppler-gang might claim to be one and we'll never know if they are the real deal or not, as there wouldn't be the real agent to proclamate the doppler as false.
"But that's just this sleepy old timer's jambunckled thoughts. We just need to observe the "people" and decide what to do. I know it's difficult but it is necessary for our survivin'."
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 23, 2009, 09:47:45 pm
Post by: Zai on March 23, 2009, 09:50:46 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 23, 2009, 09:55:52 pm
Post by: Solifuge on March 23, 2009, 10:03:19 pm
Solifuge tapped his forehead in thought, before nodding toward Old Man Webadict.
"Maybe i look suspicious... I'm not a doppelganger. Would a doppelganger really initially accuse anyone? Of course not. That'd make them look suspicious... You're not going to get anywhere by lynching me because I'm trying to help everyone."
Interesting that you try to make yourself appear as the victim, when it was the other way around. You were first to accuse someone who was trying to help. Besides, your logic is flawed; it would make sense that the Dopplegangers, who know who the humans are among us, would be the only ones who would be confident enough to make such quick accusations.
As much as I dislike pointing the finger in such a situation, and I pray that I am not wrong... but I must agree with Pandarsenic. You've been acting mighty strangely, old man. Though I await further rebuttal from you to prove your innocence, I think that you, Webadict, are an impostor!
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 23, 2009, 10:06:26 pm
Post by: Karlito on March 23, 2009, 10:08:47 pm
"Theresh alienies? I was probbed by themm onccce.
Post by: Alexhans on March 23, 2009, 10:22:24 pm
"Sorry I'm late, my sister was on the phone for hours and I couldn't call so I decided to come all the way here but my car broke so... I ran."
He takes a deep breath and begins:
I think it's important we remember this...
Quote
Not all roles are guaranteed. In fact, it's quite possible to have a game with nothing but normal doppelgangers and humans.We are 15 people... Our important roles are the agent and the doc. The aliens can work for themselves and still be protown but our not our real weapons. I don't really know what to think of army vets... they can kill docs and cops who target them? that's not good. Maybe they'll be more useful if the cops and/or docs know them so they don't target them.
There can be more then 1 alien, although each will have different goals.
There will only be, at most, 1 Agent, 1 Doctor, and 1 Doppelganger Leader.
I tried running with writing in the 3rd Person Narrative perspective the intro set up, which also helps to remove the personal perspective. Besides, that way people don't reveal theirI think it's cool and all but we can't do it all the time... its just make up for hollow content... we need facts here.secret plans for world dominationprivate thoughts unless they choose to share them :P
just look at inaluct's #74 ... Zero content. oh... and 75,76
Nuke... Aliens aren't bad... dopelgangers or whatever they are called are our enemies. Aliens just have their own agenda. I hope the alien's have a conscience and make this world a better place.
"Explain how you know this stranger, it wasn't officially explained!"Come on people!!! read the rules or we will have it harder...
"You-who-look-like-Adam-Sandler! YOU ARE THE DOPPLEGANGER!Can we officialy name Org The mafia-bandwaggon-jumper? he chooses always the scummiest way to play...
Chaoticjosh.
what I don't like about solifuge is the third person acting that he tried to impose on us... making us play and forget to actually try and win the game?
"As an aside, I will abstain from voting, until someone can present a logical argument as to why we should kill one of us, especially when we have only a 1-in-4 chance of killing one of them. We should also more closely scrutinize those who are so eager to see heads roll, proverbially speaking."You could FoS (Finger of Suspicion) you know? So we have a clear idea of who they were and don't forget easyly... I think that with so many players it's bound to happen.
Well... This is a mess... too many people saying too many things that really are just unsupported accusations...
Let's limit ourselves to point the facts of our suspicions and nothing more... I'd like to hear what you think of the following:
1) Has anyone even analized the aproximate amount of dopelgangers that there can be in this game?
2) must the war vets act or not for fear of killing the cop(agent) or doc? although it's a 2/15 chance.
3) what do we gain from no lynch? what we gain from lynching?
The stops talking and gives a hard look to his audience... hoping that they are indeed listening.
"Well... gentlemen. I wan't clear answers so cut the crap. And I want them fast cause we ain't got much time".
Post by: inaluct on March 23, 2009, 10:30:37 pm
"...Did you just ask if any of us had ever 'analized' the number of doppelgangers here? You're a sick pervert."
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 23, 2009, 11:17:01 pm
Post by: Cheeetar on March 23, 2009, 11:46:29 pm
Post by: Archangel on March 24, 2009, 01:48:43 am
He unslings his bolt action rifle and sits down near the door.
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 24, 2009, 02:43:26 am
"Listen, folks. I done the math. We have a 1/4 chance of killing a, a, doppelganger-thing. We have a 3/16 chance of killing he who the doppelgangers want dead- the doctor, the cop, and the war veteran. Assuming they are all present here. So you might say that is would be senseless to kill someone at random.
But no, I say. No! If we let these monsters kill again, how are we better off?
Not at all!
The monsters will just kill one of us at random, and we shall have no new information. Therefore we must, although it is a horrible thought, choose one of us who must die. Be he one who would be useful to us, then we may change our stance.
The way of the No Lynch is one that can hide the monster. Vote, even be it at random. We must!
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 24, 2009, 02:59:14 am
Post by: Cheeetar on March 24, 2009, 03:06:47 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 24, 2009, 03:36:57 am
Post by: webadict on March 24, 2009, 11:29:20 am
"According to Bramford's 'Treatises on Simulacra: The Dopplerganger and You', a doppleganger must first consume the brain of their victim before assuming their form... thus if this "ChaoticJosh" were Adam Sandler's doppleganger, the origional Adam Sandler would be dead, and it would be all over the news.
The grim looking man in the back put down his copy of "Paranoia for Dummies" next to the loaded hand gun he now took everywhere with him.
"I'll point out that if somebody ate Adam Sandler's brain, chances are nobody would even notice." he said simply. "But I can't help but notice that we were discussing things civilly until Webadict started pointing fingers. Somebody is trying to stir up trouble."
"I pointed fingers because no one had the guts to do it. Obviously, if we don't get anyone to start explaining, we who are the town sit around and wait for the Agent and the Doctor to do everything. What if they die? How then do we defend ourselves? We can't make any accusations based off information we don't have."
"The people who seem most anxious to lynch people randomly are those with the most information, i.e. the dopplegangers who know that if they get people on the bandwagon they can kill a random townie with no repercussions. In my opinion, it is best to wait for the roles to work."
"You're wrong in a lot of regards. The people with the most information are those that wish to avoid scrutiny. If they die, they lose that important source of information. Likely, it is those of us that wish to pose as Town in order to avoid scrutiny by telling us to vote without themselves voting that are the evilest of us all." The old man points another finger at Cheeetar, "No lynch? Why's that? You seem to think that Doppelgangers automatically start bandwagons. I think that's mixed up. Doppelgangers jump on the bandwagons. Better that they hide in the shadows and look innocent then get themselves under suspicion."
NUKE9.13 is quite worried at the amount of hand-held weapons being displayed in public. And paranoia for dummies, that old army-veterans friend. Is the whole town ex-army?
"Listen, folks. I done the math. We have a 1/4 chance of killing a, a, doppelganger-thing. We have a 3/16 chance of killing he who the doppelgangers want dead- the doctor, the cop, and the war veteran. Assuming they are all present here. So you might say that is would be senseless to kill someone at random.
But no, I say. No! If we let these monsters kill again, how are we better off?
Not at all!
The monsters will just kill one of us at random, and we shall have no new information. Therefore we must, although it is a horrible thought, choose one of us who must die. Be he one who would be useful to us, then we may change our stance.
The way of the No Lynch is one that can hide the monster. Vote, even be it at random. We must!
"This is true, but you have yet to vote.
"Although, there are other factors to factor in. Technically, we might be better off NOT killing someone today, based off these facts: For every person killed, we suddenly have less chance of killing off a Town member by mistake, since they are already dead. The only problem is that since everyone voted to not lynch anyone the last day, they have no information to go off of except what the Agent has. Therefore, we try our best to lynch someone based on the information we have."
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 24, 2009, 07:13:52 pm
Post by: inaluct on March 24, 2009, 07:19:45 pm
"You know, I was just joking about lynching you at first. Just to see if-"
Inaluct suddenly starts windmilling his arms and yelling, trying to startle chaoticjosh into doing something doppelgangerly.
"YOU'RE A DOPPELGANGER! AREN'T YOU?! ADMIT IT! ADMIT IT!!!"
Post by: Mephansteras on March 24, 2009, 07:24:03 pm
It's a bit past noon, and you all decide to take a brief break. Raiding the abandoned deli next door yields an array of sandwiches, chips, and soft drinks.
The day phase will end tomorrow (Wednesday) at ~5pm Pacific time.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 24, 2009, 08:08:04 pm
Post by: webadict on March 24, 2009, 08:31:52 pm
"Again with the 'ignore the fact that I accused first please' thing, Webadict?"
"I pointed fingers because no one had the guts to do it. Obviously, if we don't get anyone to start explaining, we who are the town sit around and wait for the Agent and the Doctor to do everything. What if they die? How then do we defend ourselves? We can't make any accusations based off information we don't have."
"Clearly, someone is more senile than I am. How about you listen up?
"Think what you want, but how were we going about things civilly? We were sitting around, playing out a situation as cool and calm without it being as such. Think about it: What was getting accomplished before then? Nothing, that's what. Now we've got votes to check. Who hasn't voted? They are more likely to be our Doppelgangers than not. You have to realize the silent ones are the most suspicious. Let's figure out who they are now."
Post by: Zai on March 24, 2009, 08:42:32 pm
"On an uprelated note, I don't thing my heart'll be a pumpin' for much longer. If it gives during the night, I don't want nobody wastin' their volumable time tryin' to save me or not'in'! Y'hear? All righty then. Just wanted to get that off me chest."
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 24, 2009, 08:56:30 pm
Post by: inaluct on March 24, 2009, 09:01:25 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 24, 2009, 09:01:43 pm
In the event of a tie, one of two things will happen. If there are only two vote camps, representing over half of the players, then both people will be lynched. If there are more than three vote camps or fewer then half the populace has voted then no lynch will take place.
All votes should be colored red to make it easy for me to spot them.
I should note that, in the event of a tie between votes for a single person and votes for no_lynch, the tie will go to someone being lynched (shot/blown up/whatever).
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 24, 2009, 09:04:31 pm
Post by: inaluct on March 24, 2009, 09:06:56 pm
Post by: webadict on March 24, 2009, 09:44:12 pm
Pandarsenic is right, guys. Out of all the votes, inaluct has swapped so many times, it's making me dizzy.
So far, Katsuun has yet to post.
Kashyyk and Alexhans posted once.
Kashyyk's post was very small.
Masami Phonix, Archangel, and Beacon80 has posted once to vote, then never spoke again.
Archangel voted No Lynch and Beacon80 voted Abstain. These are suspicious votes.
inaluct has switched votes 3 times. The first vote was for chaoticjosh because "He looks like Adam Sandler."
Org voted once, switched to No Lynch, and then stayed quiet.
Total Vote Count:
chaoticjosh 1 Abstain
Beacon80 Abstain
Cheeetar No Lynch
Org No Lynch
Archangel No Lynch
Zaithmeister Pandarsenic
inaluct Pandarsenic
Solifuge Webadict
Masami Phonix Webadict
webadict Solifuge
Pandarsenic Withdrawn
Karlito
Kashyyk
Alexhans
Katsuun
NUKE9.13
Post by: inaluct on March 24, 2009, 09:51:49 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 24, 2009, 10:25:14 pm
Alexhans posted, unsurprisingly, a huge statistics post with no RP, which, while disappointing, didn't seem especially scummy to me. Archangel and Beacon80 are suspicious for not wanting to take someone out, to a degree, but with at the very best a 6/16 chance of hitting an enemy of the town (Counting aliens), these are valid, I think.
Masami Phonix was jumping on the beginning of what could've been a bandwagon on Webadict, same for Solifuge.
Org may be watching for now, but he too is a no-lyncher.
inaluct is just being weeeeird.
Post by: inaluct on March 24, 2009, 10:41:07 pm
"...Do you bite your thumb at me, sir?"
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 24, 2009, 11:17:23 pm
Post by: webadict on March 24, 2009, 11:26:40 pm
... *Whispers to webadict* "Is the law on our side, if I say ay?"No.
However, I do point a FoS at inaluct.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 24, 2009, 11:36:40 pm
Post by: inaluct on March 24, 2009, 11:40:26 pm
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 25, 2009, 03:02:55 am
Currently inaluct, pandarsenic, and webadict are all talking. They are probably not all doppelgangers. They are probably all townies, arguing with each other whilst the dopps hide in the shadows.
I am busy now, but soon! Sooooon!
I shall make my vote heard.
Pats the grenade launcher
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 25, 2009, 03:18:20 am
Post by: Masami Phonix on March 25, 2009, 06:47:39 am
Dammit people this is not the time to quote Shakespeare.
It's always the time to quote Shakespear.
And I'm beginning to agree with webaddict here. The most likely culprits are the ones who are quiet. Specifically, I'm looking at Beacon and Chaotic, as they are the ones who voted to not vote. It gives them the appearance of innocence since they didn't vote for anybody, but at the same time it doesn't discourage an actual lynching.
So I'd like to unvote Webadict and point my finger at Beacon for being suspiciously quiet and non-confrontational, yet not actually discouraging violence.
In other news, I apparently read too much TV Tropes, because my first thought on seeing the red text was "I must have linked it wrong"
Post by: webadict on March 25, 2009, 09:28:27 am
... Pandarsenic glances at webadict, then at nuke, then turns back to inaluct. "Quarrel, sir! No sir.""If you do, sir, I am for you: I serve as good a man as you."
"Now, I believe that Masami Phonix is right. Beacon80 is being highly suspicious and non-talkative. Also, I'd like to FoS Archangel. What have you been doing for the town?"
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 25, 2009, 10:07:42 am
Anyway
Quote from: beacon
A loud sigh draws the crowds attention. The owner of the sigh is a middle-aged man, with eyes much older than the rest of him.
"I'll not be a part of this witch hunt. I won't accuse good men without reason. No vote."
For this you kill a man? Fair enough, he speaks little, but perhaps he is merely inactive? His refusal to vote is unfortunate, but come on, there are tons of people who haven't voted... yet.
I say that the accusation of beacon is unfounded. A FoS upon him, as that he should clarify his absence, but not death.
Masami is accuser prime. But he provides reasons (even if I think they are worth no more than a FoS). I do declare that webadict's vote upon someone who has made but one post to be one of extreme suspicion.
We should kill someone. But we should kill him who is suspicious, not him who is too inactive to provide even a defence.
I will PM (via meph) beacon asking him to post again. That is fair, yes?
Post by: webadict on March 25, 2009, 11:52:57 am
An FoS only gives them a warning. Big deal. WOW, a WAAAAARNING. Psh. It shows I'm suspicious of them, but not to the point of actually accusing them. If someone is going to post and vote without doing anything else, it's suspicious. You can't deny that. He can't help by standing back and watching.
How do I look suspicious by making others explain their actions? Um, yeah... Are we just going to all sit down and let the Doppelgangers kill us? I know! Let's have the Agent find everyone for us! Oh wait... that's going to be highly unlikely. Yeah, no. I want to make sure we have as much information as we can get, not that we just point fingers, get nothing done, and die.
Don't make me OMGUS on you, NUKE...
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 25, 2009, 12:03:04 pm
Some people mentioned how not voting was suspicious. I see it as advantageous. If we kill people randomly, then we have the chance of randomly killing the vet, the doctor, or the agent, all of which pose a larger threat to the dopplegangers than random lynches.
Post by: Masami Phonix on March 25, 2009, 12:33:36 pm
Alright guys just relax.
Some people mentioned how not voting was suspicious. I see it as advantageous. If we kill people randomly, then we have the chance of randomly killing the vet, the doctor, or the agent, all of which pose a larger threat to the dopplegangers than random lynches.
Your argument makes sense, but I disagree. The vet can only kill one doppleganger as I see it, since he'll get taken down in the fight. The doctor helps keep us alive but doesn't stop the dopplegangers. The agent is of course our most valuable asset, but he has the tricky position of needing to convince us who we should attack without seeming obvious.
Ultiamtely lynching is still our best weapon. If we all say no vote or no lynch, than the dopplegangers kill off a bunch of us and we're no better off the next day as we've gained no information. Sadly, innocent lives will almost definitely be taken, but by seeing who they react to, and which of us our killed this night, we will be able to more accurately guess the next day.
Post by: Beacon80 on March 25, 2009, 01:37:03 pm
"You're a blood-thirsty lot, that's for certain. A man doesn't want to kill, and that makes you suspicious? I reckon that's a good as sign as any. I vote for Mr. Webaddict. I'm mighty upset with Mr. Phonix, but I see Mr. Webaddict's behavior to be mighty suspicious. He manages to fast-talk Mr. Phonix out of voting for him, then when my name comes up, he immediately jumps on. He claims it's on account of I don't talk when I have nothing to say, but there's folks more quiet than I here."
Post by: webadict on March 25, 2009, 01:46:44 pm
Post by: Solifuge on March 25, 2009, 02:04:01 pm
Though it would normally be preferable to wait for more definite evidence, we need to determine who is who somehow... and since an Agent giving their evidence now would only serve to betray them to the dopplegangers, we must take matters into our own hands. I urge you to follow your gut instincts now, since they are all we have to go on at present."
Post by: Kashyyk on March 25, 2009, 02:16:53 pm
So that would line up as:
Webadict,
Pandarsenic,
Inaluct,
Me,
Alexhans.
Of course I shall scratch my name of the list, and I believe that at least two of the three people talking alot are just townies and I reckon, because of hunches and argument, that Webadict and Pandarsenic are not dopps.
This leaves the list as so:
Inaluct,
Alexhans.
So, those two are my FoS targets. Thank you all for listening."
Post by: Beacon80 on March 25, 2009, 02:43:39 pm
Post by: Kashyyk on March 25, 2009, 03:42:51 pm
Post by: webadict on March 25, 2009, 04:01:24 pm
Bloodthirsty, huh? Because I accused you, Solifuge? I accused you because you said Pandarsenic was not a Doppelganger, which is a lie. You don't know Pandarsenic isn't a Doppelganger, you either think so, or you know he is or isn't because you're a Doppelganger. Simple as that.
So, you're either a liar or a Doppelganger. Your pick.
Beacon80: You haven't yet explained your actions. Way to make me a target here and deflect instead of facing the problem.
You're obviously doing something scummy here. Think like this: You made me a target for no reason without making Pandarsenic a target. You didn't question Kashyyk's judgment on that.
I'm bloodthirsty? Because I want people to start explaining? What is with people and this argument? Would you rather we all had sat back and waited until the end to talk? If you all can't tell, the worst move in any mafia game for the mafia is to be the first one to accuse. Why? Because they'd end up being the biggest target. No, you wait a little bit or point a few finger. Heck, sometimes you just don't vote so no one looks at you.
If I'm lynched tonight, I'd just like you all to know that Beacon80 and Solifuge are suspicious to me. If I'm killed, you'll all find out I'm town.
Whoever is the agent, investigate Beacon80 or Solifuge. That's all I'm saying. If I die, I might as well make sure my suspicions are followed through.
Also, voting No Lynch just lets the Doppelgangers get a kill for the night. You have to remember that the Doppelgangers know who is Town and who isn't.
Post by: Cheeetar on March 25, 2009, 04:05:30 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 25, 2009, 04:06:20 pm
Just a reminder that Day 1 ends at some time after 5pm Pacific today. ~3 hours from now. Mostly depending on how my work goes, but probably between 5 and 6.
Post by: webadict on March 25, 2009, 04:14:05 pm
"Well, you sure like to talk fast. I want to see how fast you doppelgangers die. I vote Webadict."Wow... scumtastic. Just so you know, throwing your vote in at the last second for someone that's been very helpful for the town is so scumlike it's not even funny.
You're saying I wasted a good amount of time making an excel chart for the town when I'm a Doppelganger? Seriously? I've got 3 votes on me now, folks, and that's apparently all it takes. I'm not a Doppelganger, nor have I done anything that resembles anything a Doppelganger would do...
Post by: Cheeetar on March 25, 2009, 04:15:48 pm
"Helpful to the town? You've been pointing fingers at everyone who so much as moves.""Well, you sure like to talk fast. I want to see how fast you doppelgangers die. I vote Webadict."Wow... scumtastic. Just so you know, throwing your vote in at the last second for someone that's been very helpful for the town is so scumlike it's not even funny.
You're saying I wasted a good amount of time making an excel chart for the town when I'm a Doppelganger? Seriously? I've got 3 votes on me now, folks, and that's apparently all it takes. I'm not a Doppelganger, nor have I done anything that resembles anything a Doppelganger would do...
Post by: webadict on March 25, 2009, 04:23:51 pm
The weary man looks up for the first time since he had spoke. He had been listening to people eager to hand out death sentences for people he knew.Yes. It does make me suspicious. You're either helping us, or you're not. You can't sit on the sidelines and watch. You're part of this now, and you're going to do something. Albeit, I'd rather you'd vote for someone that actually IS a Doppelganger, instead of me, but at least you're voting now.
"You're a blood-thirsty lot, that's for certain. A man doesn't want to kill, and that makes you suspicious? I reckon that's a good as sign as any. I vote for Mr. Webaddict. I'm mighty upset with Mr. Phonix, but I see Mr. Webaddict's behavior to be mighty suspicious. He manages to fast-talk Mr. Phonix out of voting for him, then when my name comes up, he immediately jumps on. He claims it's on account of I don't talk when I have nothing to say, but there's folks more quiet than I here."
As opposed to you who has been doing... what? Nothing? I'm sorry, I guess I should've done that. You do realize that now I've gotten everyone to start voting. It's better than doing nothing. Also, someone do some investigation into the bandwagon on me."Helpful to the town? You've been pointing fingers at everyone who so much as moves.""Well, you sure like to talk fast. I want to see how fast you doppelgangers die. I vote Webadict."Wow... scumtastic. Just so you know, throwing your vote in at the last second for someone that's been very helpful for the town is so scumlike it's not even funny.
You're saying I wasted a good amount of time making an excel chart for the town when I'm a Doppelganger? Seriously? I've got 3 votes on me now, folks, and that's apparently all it takes. I'm not a Doppelganger, nor have I done anything that resembles anything a Doppelganger would do...
I talk fast? Masami Phonix voted for me, then switched. Big deal. I switched because I wanted Beacon80 to talk. It would've been more suspicious if it were Solifuge to switch. Alas, now I regret not keeping my vote for him, although it'd only look like an OMGUS (It's he that OMGUS'd me.)
At least one or more of you voting for me are Doppelgangers. Find them, people. My death won't let the town down, because the Town will win, despite what any of you Doppelgangers think...
Post by: Alexhans on March 25, 2009, 04:26:06 pm
Up till now... In games with much special roles like dwarf... waiting a night doesn't harm anyone. But not voting day 1 is always uninformative if there's no discussion. But there is discussion right now so... I'm not sure.
mmmm... maybe a policy lynch in this huge game wont be so bad. I wouldn't dare to do it in mafiascum but gameplay here is different... frenzy. Lurkers that lurk day one will probably do so in the future. So I'm down with the biggest lurker lynch ;)
and I don't care about your FoS kashyyk. that list was assembled and striked in an extremely subjective way... Wich you admitted.
"Hunches and mistakes are all we have to go on at the moment friend, but I understand what you mean."MOD: What's the deadline?
Post by: Cheeetar on March 25, 2009, 04:26:17 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 25, 2009, 04:30:46 pm
MOD: What's the deadline?
Guess my post go lost in the debate.
Your basic deadline is 5pm Pacific time (2.5 hours from this post). You MIGHT be able to squeak something in past that, depending on when I have time to actually tally everything up and put in the lynch post. But don't count on it.
Post by: webadict on March 25, 2009, 04:34:27 pm
I'm gonna be honest... I think this is too big and too disorganized for me to post something really smart and helpfull for the town. I'm disoriented. I was hoping to wait and read what you all have to say to make a desition before deadline but I'm feeling that I'll probably make a mistake.That's what I said when I was mafia... Just so you know.
Up till now... In games with much special roles like dwarf... waiting a night doesn't harm anyone. But not voting day 1 is always uninformative if there's no discussion. But there is discussion right now so... I'm not sure.
mmmm... maybe a policy lynch in this huge game wont be so bad. I wouldn't dare to do it in mafiascum but gameplay here is different... frenzy. Lurkers that lurk day one will probably do so in the future. So I'm down with the biggest lurker lynch ;)
and I don't care about your FoS kashyyk. that list was assembled and striked in an extremely subjective way... Wich you admitted."Hunches and mistakes are all we have to go on at the moment friend, but I understand what you mean."MOD: What's the deadline?
Anyhow, it's about 2 and a half hours from now, I think. NINJA'D
It's not like it matters. I'm dead now. I'd need some major bandwagon for someone else in order to survive. So, I might as well make sure the Agent gets my suspicions. I'm town, and you better check the two biggest OMGUS votes ever: Solifuge and Beacon80. After that, check Cheeetar.
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 25, 2009, 04:45:02 pm
nor have I done anything that resembles anything a Doppelganger would do...Assuming the doppelgangers are bluffing an odd amount of times.
It's mafia. Everyone does everything. The mafia acts like townies. The townies act like mafia. The aliens act like aliens.
The point is, yes you have. You have tried to steer votes to active players. You have joined someone against a player who hasn't said anything suspicious. Lurking, yes. But hey, in comparison. I would say nay, you are doing things a doppelganger would do.
Heck, everyone is doing something a doppelganger would do. On account of the three (generalised) options: Speak a lot, sway the town; speak a bit, bandwagon; lurk, and survive by unnoticeability. However, there are also good reasons for the town to do so. Speak a lot, find the mafia; speak a bit, have a role; lurk, and survive by unnoticability.
Made an excel chart? My friend, such participation is a brilliant way to assure people of your innocence. Your actual innocence is unimportant.
So yeah. You are doing stuff a dopp would do.
But cheetar's quick bandwagon is also suspicious... and rest assured that if you are innocent that you will not have died in vain. Those you voted for become unsure qualities.
+dammit so many posts:
I'm town, and you[the cop] better check the two biggest OMGUS votes ever: Solifuge and Beacon80. After that, check Cheeetar.I ask the cop not to listen to this (completely): Cheeetar is yes suspicious (assuming web turns out town, which I'm not so sure of). Solifuge mayhaps. But take people at random; that really stings the dopps.
Post by: Solifuge on March 25, 2009, 04:56:50 pm
Voters:
Beacon80: Webadict (for being manipulative and accusatory)
Solifuge: Webadict (for bloodthirsty rabble-rousing)
NUKE9.13: Webadict (for unsupported accusations)
Cheertar: Webadict (bandwagoning)
Masami Phoenix: Beacon80 (for quietness and non-confrontationality)
Webadict: Beacon80 (for conspicuous silence)
Zaithemaster: Pandarsenic (for putting words in Webadicts mouth)
Inaluct: Pandarsenic (bandwagoning / for pointing the FoS at him)
Pandarsenic: Abstain
ChaoticJosh: Abstain
Org: Abstain
Non-Voters:
Alexhans
Archangel
Karlito
Katsuun
Kashyyk
Actions of note: (Biased - it's hard trying to look at yourself suspiciously)
Solifuge - Moderate activity. First to post. Promoted following gut instinct.
Beacon80 - Moderate activity.
NUKE9.13 - Moderate activity.
Cheertar - Low activity. Informed about Aliens. Possible bandwagoner.
Masami Phoenix - Moderate activity. Accused someone for silence/inactivity.
Webadict - High activity. Does extensive research of players. Accusatory.
Zaithemaster - Low activity. Doesn't accuse or talk much. Said not to save him in the night.
Inaluct - Moderate activity. Acts crazy and entertaining most times, but coherent while accusing. Possible bandwagoner.
Pandarsenic - Moderate activity.
ChaoticJosh - Moderate activity.
Org - Low activity.
Alexhans - Low activity. Logical and observant.
Archangel - No activity.
Karlito - No activity.
Katsuun - Low activity.
Kashyyk - Low activity.
(Let me know if I missed any votes or suspicious activities. Also, Webadict, I really don't hate you and think you're bloodthirsty, I promise ;D)
(Also, since there are presently 5 non-votes, and no true majority, there will be no lynch, correct?)
Post by: webadict on March 25, 2009, 05:24:59 pm
Anyhow, yes I will be lynched. It's based on the simple majority, not the true majority. Therefore, I will be lynched tonight.
Yeah, NUKE9.13 is right. Don't listen to me. Look randomly, because otherwise the Doppelgangers will know who to kill. Therefore, don't listen.
Also, (Just a note to my innocence) I would've roleclaimed doctor in this situation if I were a Doppelganger. One, I wouldn't die today and would only die tomorrow under investigation of the Agent (Who would then have to reveal himself, thereby giving the Dopps the correct Agent (They would have to find the Doctor)) As if I haven't played Mafia as mafia before. Alas, I'm not a Dopp, nor any important role, so see ya.
Meph, might as well call it a day.
Post by: Alexhans on March 25, 2009, 05:53:28 pm
Webadicts right he's gonna get lynched if no one else votes.
Vote Cheertar
I really feel he has been the most opportunistic at the time, matching with his other games were he was scum. If he get's 3 more votes he'll tie with webadict... Shift your votes people. And those who havent voted vote him... or either no lynch... thatll take 2 more votes because it has to beat a person lynch by at least 1 vote.
Post by: webadict on March 25, 2009, 06:10:31 pm
Cheeetar.
Post by: Alexhans on March 25, 2009, 06:17:46 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 25, 2009, 06:21:46 pm
Post by: Solifuge on March 25, 2009, 06:29:11 pm
Even if you aren't with us, you do provide everyone with valuable insight and logic. I may have been a bit hasty in convicting you, when there are far more legitimate reasons to suspect another.
I hereby withdraw my vote against Webadict, and agree that Cheetar, whose argumentless convictions seem like those of someone who knows the accused to not be a doppleganger.
--
Also, I do not claim to be unbiased. I tried to be as neutral as possible though.
EDIT: Updated list.
Voters:
Beacon80: Webadict (for being manipulative and accusatory)
NUKE9.13: Webadict (for unsupported accusations)
Cheertar: Webadict (bandwagoning)
Masami Phoenix: Beacon80 (for quietness and non-confrontationality)
Alexhans: Cheetar (for being opportunistic, and usual play-style)
Webadict: Cheetar (for bandwagoning)
Solifuge: Cheetar (after being swayed by a logical argument)
Pandarsenic: Cheetar (reasoning forthcoming)
Zaithemaster: Pandarsenic (for putting words in Webadicts mouth)
Inaluct: Pandarsenic (bandwagoning / for pointing the FoS at him)
ChaoticJosh: Abstain
Org: Abstain
Non-Voters:
Archangel
Karlito
Katsuun
Kashyyk
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 25, 2009, 06:35:48 pm
Let's see what happens.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 25, 2009, 06:45:16 pm
Post by: Karlito on March 25, 2009, 07:06:01 pm
Karlito - No activity.
Hey, I've had activity! It just hasn't contained any content.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 25, 2009, 07:13:59 pm
webadict: May be a very brave Doppelganger, seeking to deflect suspicion by the very fact of his hyperactivity - possibly a Dopp Leader, since he's asking to be investigated. He may also be a Vet, trying to lure a Doppelganger into attacking him, hoping a doctor doesn't target him. If he's an alien, I doubt he's an Exterminator or a Survivor - he's drawing too much attention to himself for that. Possible Alien roles, then, would be a Doppelganger Catcher, trying to see how people react to him, or the Agent Seeker, trying to get the Agent to contact him. I'm ranking what I suspect he is now:
1) Ordinary Townie
2) Crazy Vet
3) Doppelganger Leader
4) Alien Agentseeker
5) Normal Doppelganger or Alien Doppseeker
NO SUSPICION: Agent, Doctor, Alien Exterminator, Alien Survivor
Cheetar: That's a hugely suspicious OMGUS vote. You earned my vote, and you're either a bad townie or an obvious Dopp. I'm just praying you aren't a Doctor trying to act insane to deflect suspicion.
Beacon80: Wow, what an OMGUS vote and what a clear attempt to deflect suspicion. Also, you were 3rd voter on webadict, which is often when a Doppelganger tries to transform a suspicion into a bandwagon. I'm fairly suspicious of you... if webadict dies, I'll likely vote for you, to be honest.
Post by: Mephansteras on March 25, 2009, 07:22:24 pm
With night falling, you drag the protesting Cheeetar out into the street. The RPG is left inside for being "too likely to hurt the rest of us". Instead, a simple rifle is used.
*CRACK*
The shot rings out, with the bullet hitting Cheeetar square in the chest. As he slumps to the ground, he shimmers briefly, and his true form is revealed. He is still more or less humanoid, but his features are much sharper then a humans, and his ears much longer and pointed. His skin is a pale blue, with his underarms and throat almost white. He is dressed in some strange uniform, and a breathing apparatus covers his face. The bullet seems to have gone through some circuitry on the front of his suit, which sparks and smokes.
He speaks, slowly.
"I regret I was so hasty. I...I am on your side.....sent...help...you. Contact...your...government. Tell them..."
He goes into a coughing fit.
"Cannot...breath...this...air."
He coughs some more, before collapsing onto the ground. He is dead a few moments later.
Aaaand, that's why I don't end the day early. Especially this early on. :P
Interesting first round. Let's see how the rest of the game goes.
I'll be locking this thread for the Night phase. You all go home after this, so no more speaking in a public place. You're welcome to PM one another, just keep me copied to them. It'll be unlocked once Day 2 starts.
Night roles, PM me your actions.
Night will last until I have all Night Role actions, or 24 hours have passed. Whichever comes first.
Post by: Mephansteras on March 25, 2009, 07:38:27 pm
Quote from: Pandarsenic's Pre-Night Reasoning, Part Two!
NUKE9.13: Inactive start, active towards the end. Sound logic, but he voted for someone whose Doppelgangerhood I doubt. However, as the first voter for webadict, I can see his point. I'm not sure which I'd say he is.
Masami Phonix: His logic in voting for Beacon is sound, and he's been fairly inconspicuous. I cant form much of an opinion on him yet - he doesn't seem to have done anything exceptionally suspicious. I'd say he's fairly low on my suspicion list but could be either.
Alexhans: He ragged on us for RPing. This saddened me, but he had a point - in crunch time, we've all abandoned RPing to make focused, concise arguments. He could be either, but I'm leaning against him being a Doppler. Possible Townie power role, but I wouldn't say it's more or less likely than a normal townie at this point. My suspicion mainly arises from him actively calling for us to bandwagon against Cheeetar, but if he had a fair level of conviction in Cheeetar's guilt, I can see why he'd do that.
Solifuge: He doesn't seem suspicious to me, but then again, I'm using his list and some of his activity assessments to compile my arguments. Could be either.
Zaithemaster: Voted for me. This, of course, makes me a tad suspicious of him, but I can see where he was coming from. Could be either.
Inaluct: OMGUS-vote for me? That's no good. D: I'll wait to hear more of him before passing judgment, though.
These people, I have nothing much to go on - Townie Lurkers, Dopps, Power Roles in Hiding, Alien Survivors or Doppseekers? Who knows? I'm suspicious of them largely through their absence or abstentions, which make a lynch likelier without committing themselves to a particular lynch.
ChaoticJosh
Org
Archangel
Karlito
Katsuun
Archangel
Karlito
Katsuun
Kashyyk
Post by: Mephansteras on March 26, 2009, 07:37:13 pm
The town awakens the next day. After a sleepless night you reconvene in the town hall. Katsuun and Zaithemaster are missing. Everyone agrees to go search their houses to see what happened. Katsuun's house is empty, with no sign of forced entry or violence. Zai's however, quickly shows what happened. The door is busted down, and there is a large hole in the floor. Blood splatters the area. Of Zai there is no sign other then a rifle on the ground. In the hole, however, is the body of a Doppelganger. Its body is riddled with bulletholes. You surmise that the shot to its head was the final blow. It can only be Katsuun in his true form.
You return to the town hall, emotions mixed. On one hand, Zaithemaster, Veteran, is almost certainly dead at the hands of the doppelgangers. However, he took out one of them, meaning there is one less to hunt the rest of you.
Day two begins!
Post by: Alexhans on March 26, 2009, 07:45:57 pm
Luckyly the war vet killed someone evil and not an agent or a doc. This may mean there aren't more vets or that they werent targeted...or that they switched off their abilities (but i doubt the last one since everyone here is so reckless.
MOD: Update post 1's title so everyone knows it's day.
Post by: Beacon80 on March 26, 2009, 08:12:20 pm
Post by: Org on March 26, 2009, 08:13:59 pm
Although, he did get a doppleganger.
Post by: inaluct on March 26, 2009, 10:06:02 pm
Post by: webadict on March 26, 2009, 10:46:36 pm
This isnt good.That night was good, not bad. Think about it this way: There were 3 dopps starting, and now there are only two. We lose the War Vet and no longer have to worry about hitting him with Town roles. It was actually the best possible outcome (Okay, well, a no kill would've been better).
Although, he did get a doppleganger.
I think this was a good outcome, and if you're complaining, you're gonna have to explain:
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Gloating (any form of "complaining" about how bad the previous night was, how the doctor/cop was killed, etc.) Similar to "congratulating the doctor"
That's a tell for Mafia. Wanna defend yourself?
Post by: inaluct on March 26, 2009, 10:51:30 pm
Post by: webadict on March 26, 2009, 11:43:20 pm
Now, this looks very suspicious, and I'd probably doubt it too, but I'll explain why I am trustworthy.
1. If the Agent didn't say this, he would say so and I would obviously be lynched, because I would be a liar, and we Lynch All Liars.
2. I was the most likely person to be investigated, though I wish others were.
3. Why would I put myself on the line again for something that is scummy, when I just nearly died yesterday?
If you do not think I'm trustworthy, I implore you to not reveal your identity. However, I think the lack of Agent response to this message will prove my innocence.
Post by: Alexhans on March 27, 2009, 12:45:38 am
Of course... webadict voted for Cheeetar afterwards... It was his way of surviving... then solifuge... wich I also think that is giving us town tells.. withdrew his vote for webadict and voted for Cheeetar. Finally Pandar did...
So why me? suddenly the culprit of a bandwaggon is the first that votes for it? How's that? And what about the fact that I'd rather lynch a scummy person than a townie one? Is that scummy?
funnyly I got town reads in the 2 people you FoS and in webadict. So I think that or you're totally wrong or you're scum yourself.
I have a habit of thinking that a night is not good if a PR was killed. but maybe you're right. We're better of without the vet and we DID get a dopp.
I have been investigated by the Agent. He is requesting that the doctor pm me, so that he can get the doctor to protect him without revealing his identity in the thread.Woah... I never trust such forward plays... I think the doctor, if he decides to do this, should wait a bit. Now I'm starting to doubt you web... how do we know you're not this?:
Now, this looks very suspicious, and I'd probably doubt it too, but I'll explain why I am trustworthy.
1. If the Agent didn't say this, he would say so and I would obviously be lynched, because I would be a liar, and we Lynch All Liars.
2. I was the most likely person to be investigated, though I wish others were.
3. Why would I put myself on the line again for something that is scummy, when I just nearly died yesterday?
If you do not think I'm trustworthy, I implore you to not reveal your identity. However, I think the lack of Agent response to this message will prove my innocence.
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Doppelganger leader - More powerful and adept then the others, the leader is immune to detection short of deathIt would be one hell of a play...
1) why would he? It could be a play to make him claim... Although the doc would protect him... but you're pm-ing for the doctor to write you? so you could kill him and then have a free road...
3)because with the lingering suspicion you're willing to sacrifice?
How do you know it IS really the agent who contacted you and not a dopp? All you rely upon is a claim from the real one?
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 27, 2009, 01:43:51 am
Bad night / good night: Dude, this was an amazing night. We traded a townie who might damage our power roles for a Doppelganger. We still have 3, though, not 2, right? 5 pods, -1 start of game, -1 Katsuun the Silent.
inaluct's suspicion: Dude, I posted very extensive reasoning, and I also maintain my belief that webadict is a pro-Town player. Cheeetar, you must admit, acted outrageously suspicious. I was very surprised to see he was an alien - and almost panicked when I saw that part about the government (before realizing we had NOT, in fact, killed an agent).
Post by: Cheeetar on March 27, 2009, 02:40:21 am
Cheeetar, you must admit, acted outrageously suspicious. I was very surprised to see he was an alien - and almost panicked when I saw that part about the government (before realizing we had NOT, in fact, killed an agent).I voted for Webadict because he pointed fingers at everyone. Why does everyone view it as suspicious?
Post by: Beacon80 on March 27, 2009, 02:48:01 am
Speaking of the agent and the doc, I urge the doc to remain silent. There's currently four possibilities:
1) Everything is legit. Webaddict is a townie and he was contacted by the agent.
2) Webaddict is legit, but the "agent" is actually a doppleganger trying to find the doctor.
3) The agent is legit, but Webaddict is actually the doppleganger leader.
4) Webaddict is a doppleganger, and was never contacted, or even investigated by the agent.
In 3 out of 4 of these, the doctor would reveal himself to the dopplegangers.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 27, 2009, 03:10:35 am
Blatant OMGUS vote?Cheeetar, you must admit, acted outrageously suspicious. I was very surprised to see he was an alien - and almost panicked when I saw that part about the government (before realizing we had NOT, in fact, killed an agent).I voted for Webadict because he pointed fingers at everyone. Why does everyone view it as suspicious?
Post by: Archangel on March 27, 2009, 04:44:17 am
"I have nothing serious to contribute. Sorry."
Post by: Cheeetar on March 27, 2009, 04:48:56 am
You'll note I only voted for him, not when he said I was suspicious. Rather, I voted for him when he started accusing everyone who moved of being a doppelganger.Blatant OMGUS vote?Cheeetar, you must admit, acted outrageously suspicious. I was very surprised to see he was an alien - and almost panicked when I saw that part about the government (before realizing we had NOT, in fact, killed an agent).I voted for Webadict because he pointed fingers at everyone. Why does everyone view it as suspicious?
Edit: He never voted for me. Infact,
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 27, 2009, 07:22:09 am
Now, as it stands, we have made excellent progress. We have killed two 'bad guys' and one '75% good guy': One dopp (always nice), one alien who goes around killing people till he finds the cop, who he also 'kills', and the vet is a danger to the town.
Information we've gained:
Er, ok, not so good. Why zai? He was relatively inactive last round... he voted for panda, I think. Or was it a FoS? Could just be a random target.
Seeing as no third death happened, we can guess there is no other aggressive alien. There may be a dopp-searcher or survivor, but they are not much of a problem- yet.
We may have a confirmed town base going on- or a fake confirmed town base. The dopp leaders special ability makes things harder indeed.
Beacon- Add to that list the possibility that both are dopps- but consider, the real cop has not complained yet. If there is one. If there isn't, we're screwed anyway. Personally I thought webadict was suspicious last round, and I would repeat my vote this round, but this claimed cop contact throws things. I don't know. I think beacon is right though, the doctor probably shouldn't contact webadict.
[spoiler:][sarcasm]"Hey! Lets kill everybody! Then we'll know that the dopps are dead!"[/sarcasm][/spoiler]Actually, if we can get one townie protected by the doctor, just killing the rest at random works... kindof. As a last resort. Actually, scrap that. It'll never work.
"I have nothing serious to contribute. Sorry."
Continue discussion.
Post by: webadict on March 27, 2009, 08:54:00 am
Great! Just Great! What I did... was mainly to save webadict (of whom I had a town read) and offered Cheeetar as an alternative because he was voting without reasons just to get a lynch... at first I wanted a no lynch but afterwards I thought cheeetar was probably scum... so why not take the shot? I was as surprised as you when he was finally lynched.It was one of the better trade offs. Otherwise, we might've lost the Doctor or the Agent. (Also, considering last game where I was a Dopp, we never had to worry about the war vet, and it made the game that much easier.)
Of course... webadict voted for Cheeetar afterwards... It was his way of surviving... then solifuge... wich I also think that is giving us town tells.. withdrew his vote for webadict and voted for Cheeetar. Finally Pandar did...
So why me? suddenly the culprit of a bandwaggon is the first that votes for it? How's that? And what about the fact that I'd rather lynch a scummy person than a townie one? Is that scummy?
funnyly I got town reads in the 2 people you FoS and in webadict. So I think that or you're totally wrong or you're scum yourself.
I have a habit of thinking that a night is not good if a PR was killed. but maybe you're right. We're better of without the vet and we DID get a dopp.
Whoops, I forgot that part. Hmm... now I do seem suspicious. I suppose it's best if the doctor does not pm me.I have been investigated by the Agent. He is requesting that the doctor pm me, so that he can get the doctor to protect him without revealing his identity in the thread.Woah... I never trust such forward plays... I think the doctor, if he decides to do this, should wait a bit. Now I'm starting to doubt you web... how do we know you're not this?:
Now, this looks very suspicious, and I'd probably doubt it too, but I'll explain why I am trustworthy.
1. If the Agent didn't say this, he would say so and I would obviously be lynched, because I would be a liar, and we Lynch All Liars.
2. I was the most likely person to be investigated, though I wish others were.
3. Why would I put myself on the line again for something that is scummy, when I just nearly died yesterday?
If you do not think I'm trustworthy, I implore you to not reveal your identity. However, I think the lack of Agent response to this message will prove my innocence.QuoteDoppelganger leader - More powerful and adept then the others, the leader is immune to detection short of deathIt would be one hell of a play...
1) why would he? It could be a play to make him claim... Although the doc would protect him... but you're pm-ing for the doctor to write you? so you could kill him and then have a free road...True, but if that happened, That would've been a terrible play for me if I were a Dopp.
3)because with the lingering suspicion you're willing to sacrifice?NEVER!
How do you know it IS really the agent who contacted you and not a dopp? All you rely upon is a claim from the real one?Actually, you're kinda right... Something is odd about him... I'm gonna need to find something out first.
Also, if he were the Agent, I dunno why he doesn't post that he is... Wouldn't it be easier for the doc? But, then again, the Dopps wouldn't go for the Agent then...
Stupid WIFOM, especially if Dopps pose as Agents.
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 27, 2009, 09:34:27 am
Post by: webadict on March 27, 2009, 10:09:10 am
Woah, I just woke up, did everything just get ten times as confusing?It always does.
Post by: Kashyyk on March 27, 2009, 11:55:31 am
Webadict did look a bit suspiscious because of that message and I still think he is, as I think webadict is quite clever so I some what doubt that he would be stupid enough to fall for something like that with out a reasonable amount of caution.
But then, Ihave been a bit dim at times, so maybe he was at that point as well. I don't know.
Post by: webadict on March 27, 2009, 01:00:34 pm
I'm here, and this is my 2 cents:No, I'm about 93% sure that the person contacting me is the Agent based on the information he's given me. However, I can't be sure until I'm 100% sure.
Webadict did look a bit suspiscious because of that message and I still think he is, as I think webadict is quite clever so I some what doubt that he would be stupid enough to fall for something like that with out a reasonable amount of caution.
But then, Ihave been a bit dim at times, so maybe he was at that point as well. I don't know.
I think the doppelgangers know what they're doing though. They went after someone not voting AND not doing much instead of one of the loud speakers. We got lucky with that person being the War Vet. I still want Org to explain...
Post by: webadict on March 27, 2009, 01:23:19 pm
1. If I were a Doppelganger that hadn't have been investigated, I'd be investigated tonight.
2. If I were the Doppelganger leader, I'd pose as the doctor, like I already said. Much less risky than this, and it forces the real doctor into the open, which is my main risk. Plus, I'd kill the agent that contacted me. Simple as that.
3. If the Agent I was talking to was a doppelganger, the real Agent would reveal himself to counter it.
I'm not saying it's risky, but it would increase our chances of winning this game significantly. Wait a little bit though, as I'm still giving a chance for another Agent claim (If the doppelgangers want to risk jumping out and getting themselves killed, then so be it. They would only have 1 person left, so it wouldn't be worth it at all.)
Post by: Alexhans on March 27, 2009, 02:11:35 pm
Cheeetar... It's cool you wanna explain and I'm sorry you weren't a dopp but posting while dead is against the rules... Sorry. And the fact of how you voted in a 1 line post was pretty scummy to me as opposed to non scummy at all webadict.Cheeetar, you must admit, acted outrageously suspicious. I was very surprised to see he was an alien - and almost panicked when I saw that part about the government (before realizing we had NOT, in fact, killed an agent).I voted for Webadict because he pointed fingers at everyone. Why does everyone view it as suspicious?
Look at the post:
"Well, you sure like to talk fast. I want to see how fast you doppelgangers die. I vote Webadict."
OH! another Cheeetar post!!! come on man! This is not a zombie game ;)
I like beacons post by the way... That's what we need. Analizing stuff.
Woah, I just woke up, did everything just get ten times as confusing?It did. :(
Quote from: webadict
2. If I were the Doppelganger leader, I'd pose as the doctor, like I already said. Much less risky than this, and it forces the real doctor into the open, which is my main risk. Plus, I'd kill the agent that contacted me. Simple as that.It really doesn't if you think it right... If I were the doc I would never come out to lynch you if you claim. That would be calling for my death. Instead... I would wait a night and then push your lynch saying that it's absurd that you haven't died as there is no one to protect you. Then again... people here might mislynch me for that but it's the optimal strategy... I think.
I think we should hear what the rest of the players have to say... We were 16-3 = 13... I don't remember hearing from so many people. And those who posted 1 line... Can you give us something else? what do you think about inaluct's case on me? About webadict's agent? About webadict himself? What do you reckon the doc should do?
Post by: Masami Phonix on March 27, 2009, 02:24:22 pm
There's also a couple more possibilities:
1) There is no doctor, in which case if the agent outs himself, he'll have nobody to protect him.
2) There is no agent, in which case there's nobody to refute WebAddict's claim.
Unless I'm misunderstanding the rules, in which case somebody please correct me, nobody said there was definitely one of each so assuming there is in fact an agent and a doctor is not necessarily true.
I'm not necessarily saying that WebAddict is lying, because there is some logic to his claims, but I'm still on the fence on whether he is or is not a dopp at this point.
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 27, 2009, 02:44:59 pm
I fail to see how the agent not outing himself proves anything. If he stands up and says "WebAdict is lying" or something like that, then he's sure to get targetted immediately.How could the dopps know there is no agent? It would be very risky for the dopps. If someone claimed, they would be screwed.
There's also a couple more possibilities:
1) There is no doctor, in which case if the agent outs himself, he'll have nobody to protect him.
2) There is no agent, in which case there's nobody to refute WebAddict's claim.
Unless I'm misunderstanding the rules, in which case somebody please correct me, nobody said there was definitely one of each so assuming there is in fact an agent and a doctor is not necessarily true.
I'm not necessarily saying that WebAddict is lying, because there is some logic to his claims, but I'm still on the fence on whether he is or is not a dopp at this point.
I am tempted to believe webadict- but then again, with 2 town-killers dead, perhaps this is a do or die attempt by the dopps, counting on there not being a cop.
But I doubt it.
Post by: Org on March 27, 2009, 03:31:51 pm
Not Mafia. I am not.
Post by: webadict on March 27, 2009, 03:43:54 pm
I don't think the Dopps have any extra information than anyone else. Last game, we weren't told if there were any types of roles. Besides, I believe Agent and Doctor were guaranteed. Also, only 1 Dopp is dead, not 2.I fail to see how the agent not outing himself proves anything. If he stands up and says "WebAdict is lying" or something like that, then he's sure to get targetted immediately.How could the dopps know there is no agent? It would be very risky for the dopps. If someone claimed, they would be screwed.
There's also a couple more possibilities:
1) There is no doctor, in which case if the agent outs himself, he'll have nobody to protect him.
2) There is no agent, in which case there's nobody to refute WebAddict's claim.
Unless I'm misunderstanding the rules, in which case somebody please correct me, nobody said there was definitely one of each so assuming there is in fact an agent and a doctor is not necessarily true.
I'm not necessarily saying that WebAddict is lying, because there is some logic to his claims, but I'm still on the fence on whether he is or is not a dopp at this point.
I am tempted to believe webadict- but then again, with 2 town-killers dead, perhaps this is a do or die attempt by the dopps, counting on there not being a cop.
But I doubt it.
Also, if I were lying, the real Agent wouldn't have anything to lose from claiming. I would die more likely than not and then the Agent would be protected. Otherwise, if a fake Agent claimed, you guys have a Doppelganger. I don't see why the Dopps would risk something like that.
I was saying it is bad but good because he got the doppleganger.Hmm... I'm not at all convinced by this answer... but it's better than nothing.
Not Mafia. I am not.
Post by: Org on March 27, 2009, 03:45:20 pm
Post by: inaluct on March 27, 2009, 03:57:21 pm
Look at the post:On reviewing that, he probably had it coming. Still, though, I'm suspicious of how fast the lynch was reversed. It looked coordinated."Well, you sure like to talk fast. I want to see how fast you doppelgangers die. I vote Webadict."OH! another Cheeetar post!!! come on man! This is not a zombie game ;)
Post by: webadict on March 27, 2009, 04:02:51 pm
Yeah, I was almost certain I was dead.Look at the post:On reviewing that, he probably had it coming. Still, though, I'm suspicious of how fast the lynch was reversed. It looked coordinated."Well, you sure like to talk fast. I want to see how fast you doppelgangers die. I vote Webadict."OH! another Cheeetar post!!! come on man! This is not a zombie game ;)
...But, it was Pandarsenic and Solifuge that switched at the last second
I think Alexhans is innocent, but I think we need answer from all of them, not just one. I honestly thought Cheeetar was a Dopp from his vote...
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 27, 2009, 04:15:18 pm
Conclusion: He was a town-killer. Who wanted nothing more than for everyone to die. And would have taken the cop if he claimed.
So killing cheeetar was a lucky break for us. The only bad thing is that it is also a lucky break for the dopps- he can't kill them at random either.
Post by: webadict on March 27, 2009, 05:00:55 pm
Webadict: Cheeetar was a the serial killer. Kind of. If you read his description, it says he has to find the agent. He can check anyone at random. If they are not the agent, he kills em. If they are, he abducts them... so he kills one guy each night, basically. Except he doesn't want the cop dead. But a cop would roleclaim rather than die, so he's ok with random lynches.Gotcha.
Conclusion: He was a town-killer. Who wanted nothing more than for everyone to die. And would have taken the cop if he claimed.
So killing cheeetar was a lucky break for us. The only bad thing is that it is also a lucky break for the dopps- he can't kill them at random either.
Post by: Beacon80 on March 27, 2009, 05:31:21 pm
Post by: inaluct on March 27, 2009, 05:46:16 pm
I'd like the agent, if he's out there, to examine me to confirm this.So he can waste a night not getting anything done?
Last game, an neutral alien was responsible for the town losing. I'm very tempted to vote to lynch you, since you clearly aren't here to help us.
Post by: webadict on March 27, 2009, 05:55:40 pm
Seriously, why would we waste a night on you? You're a neutral now, and no longer helpful. You could turn on us at any second, as long as you win. How is that helpful?I'd like the agent, if he's out there, to examine me to confirm this.So he can waste a night not getting anything done?
Last game, an neutral alien was responsible for the town losing. I'm very tempted to vote to lynch you, since you clearly aren't here to help us.
Post by: Beacon80 on March 27, 2009, 06:10:36 pm
Post by: inaluct on March 27, 2009, 06:17:29 pm
Post by: Archangel on March 27, 2009, 06:18:22 pm
Webadict: Cheeetar was a the serial killer. Kind of. If you read his description, it says he has to find the agent. He can check anyone at random. If they are not the agent, he kills em. If they are, he abducts them... so he kills one guy each night, basically. Except he doesn't want the cop dead. But a cop would roleclaim rather than die, so he's ok with random lynches.Actually, the rules say the agent finder alien disappears. They don't specify that the agent goes too, so I assume that he stays.
Conclusion: He was a town-killer. Who wanted nothing more than for everyone to die. And would have taken the cop if he claimed.
So killing cheeetar was a lucky break for us. The only bad thing is that it is also a lucky break for the dopps- he can't kill them at random either.
Post by: Beacon80 on March 27, 2009, 06:28:05 pm
Yeah, but now we know that you're either lying, or you're not on our side, not trustworthy, and potentially dangerous for us. Unvote Alexhans. Vote Beacon80. I'm going to go with the known threat to the town, for now. He's a possible ally for the doppelgangers (like last game), so I think we should lynch him.Okay, I've looked at what happened last time. I'm not a threat to you yet. I'm only a threat if there's only 3 townies left. Until then, I can help you. Things are going well for the townies right now, so it's in my best interest to help.
Post by: inaluct on March 27, 2009, 06:31:27 pm
No. It's in your best interest to have us confide in you so you can backstab us and help the doppelgangers. You're only a threat if there are three townies left? That means that you effectively lower the amount of townies that the doppelgangers need to kill to win.Yeah, but now we know that you're either lying, or you're not on our side, not trustworthy, and potentially dangerous for us. Unvote Alexhans. Vote Beacon80. I'm going to go with the known threat to the town, for now. He's a possible ally for the doppelgangers (like last game), so I think we should lynch him.Okay, I've looked at what happened last time. I'm not a threat to you yet. I'm only a threat if there's only 3 townies left. Until then, I can help you. Things are going well for the townies right now, so it's in my best interest to help.
Post by: Beacon80 on March 27, 2009, 06:33:34 pm
Post by: inaluct on March 27, 2009, 06:36:25 pm
Post by: Beacon80 on March 27, 2009, 06:40:16 pm
Post by: Archangel on March 27, 2009, 06:41:27 pm
Post by: inaluct on March 27, 2009, 06:46:37 pm
Killing me now will get you no closer to finding the dopplegangers. Use whatever information you have to try to find the doppleganger. If we reach the point where I'm a threat, I'll cast the first vote to lynch me myself.By that point, we might have a known doppelganger. You're a threat. We can't conclusively say that about anyone else, but we can say it about you. You may not be a doppelganger, but you're still a threatening role.
Post by: Beacon80 on March 27, 2009, 06:55:00 pm
By that point, we might have a known doppelganger. You're a threat. We can't conclusively say that about anyone else, but we can say it about you. You may not be a doppelganger, but you're still a threatening role.If you have a known doppleganger, then I'm still not a threat. Look at it this way:
4 townies
3 dopplegangers
1 alien (me)
If you know who a doppleganger is. All 4 townies vote for him. He dies. The remaining dopps kill a townie. Now it's:
3 townie
2 dopplegangers
1 alien (me)
If the doctor's still alive, he can buy my vote if the dopplegangers try to approach me. If not, you can kill me then.
Post by: inaluct on March 27, 2009, 06:57:03 pm
Post by: Beacon80 on March 27, 2009, 07:01:29 pm
Post by: inaluct on March 27, 2009, 07:04:11 pm
Again, I urge everyone to vote for Beacon. Previously held suspicions should be remembered, but it's important that we go after the known danger.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 27, 2009, 07:05:56 pm
I have firsthand experience with how easily a Survivor Alien can screw over the Town. I'm not letting this happen to us.
Post by: Beacon80 on March 27, 2009, 07:14:37 pm
The doppelgangers will approach you, then, since they'll know that it'll result in the doctor being tied up.Then you'll have the name of another doppleganger to kill. Seems like a worthwhile trade to me.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 27, 2009, 07:15:50 pm
Or you'll say nothing when the Doppelgangers approach you. Like I did. Which totally worked for me.The doppelgangers will approach you, then, since they'll know that it'll result in the doctor being tied up.Then you'll have the name of another doppleganger to kill. Seems like a worthwhile trade to me.
Post by: inaluct on March 27, 2009, 07:18:39 pm
And you're our only known enemy.
Post by: Beacon80 on March 27, 2009, 07:18:58 pm
Or you'll say nothing when the Doppelgangers approach you. Like I did. Which totally worked for me.Except the Dopplegangers approached you when they were on equal footing with the townies. When you're vote gave them the majority. I'm suggesting that they lynch me the day before that happens.
Post by: inaluct on March 27, 2009, 07:21:10 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 27, 2009, 07:21:20 pm
....Or you'll say nothing when the Doppelgangers approach you. Like I did. Which totally worked for me.Except the Dopplegangers approached you when they were on equal footing with the townies. When you're vote gave them the majority. I'm suggesting that they lynch me the day before that happens.
Only, see, what you would do then is just keep saying nothing.
The Survivor Alien is better-suited by joining the Doppelgangers - there's no chance of a vengeance-slaying for lack of cooperation and you're aligning with a side who can nightkill whomever they feel like.
Sorry, Beacon80, but you're a liability.
I'm gonna be pissed if he's a Dopp-seeker Alien, by the way. XD
Post by: Beacon80 on March 27, 2009, 07:49:44 pm
Post by: webadict on March 27, 2009, 07:53:00 pm
Right now, you are only helpful to us because the doctor is still alive. If the doctor dies, you will no longer help us in a situation unless the number of Dopps drops to 1.
Therefore, you could instantly become a nemesis in one death.
However, you are right that we don't have to worry about you yet, but we will have to turn on you eventually if we don't win before then.
This only applies if the Dopps or doctor are unknown. If they are known, you will side with the Dopps, because otherwise you will be killed.By that point, we might have a known doppelganger. You're a threat. We can't conclusively say that about anyone else, but we can say it about you. You may not be a doppelganger, but you're still a threatening role.If you have a known doppleganger, then I'm still not a threat. Look at it this way:
4 townies
3 dopplegangers
1 alien (me)
If you know who a doppleganger is. All 4 townies vote for him. He dies. The remaining dopps kill a townie. Now it's:
3 townie
2 dopplegangers
1 alien (me)
If the doctor's still alive, he can buy my vote if the dopplegangers try to approach me. If not, you can kill me then.
Post by: Beacon80 on March 27, 2009, 08:01:27 pm
First, don't lynch me today.
The agent investigates me tonight. He then tells me about any dopplegangers he finds, and I can tell you. This lets the agent act in secrecy. I'd need the doctor to protect me. This ties up the doctor, but no more than it would if the agent came out himself. With the added bonus of that if we accidentally lynch the doctor. You lose me instead of the agent, who can continue to work in secrecy.
Obviously, if the dopplegangers eat the agent or I give out bad information, I'm next on the chopping block, thus ensuring that it will never be in my best interests to help the dopplegangers.
Post by: webadict on March 27, 2009, 08:15:11 pm
Obviously, if the dopplegangers eat the agent or I give out bad information, I'm next on the chopping block, thus ensuring that it will never be in my best interests to help the dopplegangers.This is called screwing the town over. You're basically saying we should keep you alive long enough for you to make us lose... Of course by then, it'll be too late.
Or, we could lynch you today and not worry about you at all. Of course, now we can either waste an Agent scan on you, or we can have the Doc waste his protection on you. And of course, this is a requirement for you to help us. So... yeah...
Honestly, I think we might be better off without you. I don't like killing you, but I'd rather get rid of a Neutral than accidentally kill a Townie, which is more likely to occur than not.
Post by: Beacon80 on March 27, 2009, 08:25:59 pm
A) It doesn't matter who the agent is. Only the doctor, whom I presumably still won't know.
B) You'll have killed me before then, anyway, to prevent the dopps from using me to get control the vote.
I'm giving you the option to have the agent be active without revealing himself to the dopplegangers. And it will never be in my best interests to betray him.
Post by: Solifuge on March 27, 2009, 08:33:29 pm
Basically, the Agent can investigate him tonight;
If he is a Dopple, he's betrayed himself, and we lynch him tomorrow. That leaves us with 2 left.
If he's a Doppseeker Alien, he offers a really good way for us to take out a Dopple for free without the Agent exposing themselves.
If he's neither, Agent will turn this up, and by not having lynched him, we have at least a 1-night Dopple shield, since they know we can trust him, and they wont want him around.
If the Agent turns up that he's trustworthy, Agent can contact both him and Webadict with a coded message and a code Key to clear them both. (or some other varient that clears that they both were authentically contacted).
Basically, it's win-win keeping him alive, because whatever he is, he provides different benefits to us... and we don't have to worry about him risking himself by exposure if he's not a townie, and his death wont impact us one way or the other.
Post by: Org on March 27, 2009, 08:34:05 pm
Nope. Not doppleganger, but not an alien.
Post by: Solifuge on March 27, 2009, 08:40:43 pm
Post by: Archangel on March 27, 2009, 08:42:08 pm
Post by: Beacon80 on March 27, 2009, 08:43:03 pm
Post by: Masami Phonix on March 27, 2009, 08:43:41 pm
Beacon's offer works with a caveat. The Doctor doesn't have to keep protecting him. If he thinks somebody else is in more danger he can help him instead. If grey-boy here dies in the process, we haven't lost anything more than his mild accomplishments.
Post by: Alexhans on March 27, 2009, 08:43:59 pm
I'm still thinking what are the possible consequences to anything we do...
Oh... I imagine you know that webadict was supposedly contacted by the agent and wanted to be pm'd by the doc... It's all here... :P take your time and read it... If you can make another post with the quality of your old ones... I'd appreciate it.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 27, 2009, 08:46:45 pm
1: Org, you aren't making a very strong case.
2: Solifuge, Phonix, & Beacon80, if Beacon is an Alien, he is NOT going to magically sacrifice himself for the good of the town. I was in a position to do so and name every Doppelganger, then push a town win at the cost of my own life. I chose to win and so would he. He's a danger.
Beacon80, I don't deny that you're an Alien, nor do I assert that you're a Doppelganger. I simply believe you to be a liability to the town, as when I was the Survivor Alien, that's precisely what I was.
Also, a reminder, an Alien Exterminator may have chosen to be passive the first night, wishing for his presence to remain unknown. I predict, if this has happened, he'll go active after the second or third Doppelganger dies.
Post by: webadict on March 27, 2009, 08:50:22 pm
Also, the Dopps will no longer target you, because you are now helpful to them.
You've just given them a better chance to kill the doc or the agent.
Post by: Beacon80 on March 27, 2009, 08:54:00 pm
Post by: Archangel on March 27, 2009, 08:54:59 pm
I know this isn't at all useful but I just don't trust him.
Also, my point about the agent finder alien seems to have been totally ignored.
Post by: Solifuge on March 27, 2009, 08:57:50 pm
Besides, even if he is a Survivor and not a Doppseeker, lynching him would be a waste when he's already risked his skin revealing his ID to Dopps and Townies. Besides, killing a suspected Survivor is killing a prospective Team Member, whereas we should be lynching Dopps.
Logically, I suspect that his only motive in revealing his ID is as a Dopp Seeker, to work with the Town, snag a Dopp and win, before Dopps come down on him. He has little other sensible motive, and working with the Agent could rid us of another Dopp.
He's a Liability to Dopplegangers, not the town. A sensible Townie wouldn't ignore that fact.
EDIT: I don't mean to get you guys coming down on me now, but honestly, listen to reason. If Panda, Inaluct, and Webadict keep pushing to kill someone who is risking their skin for the town, has no plausible motive to betray us (it would guarantee his death either way), and generally keep pushing to get a Town Ally killed rather than seeking out Dopplegangers, you'll have earned my unshakable suspicion as enemies of the town.
EDIT EDIT: I know I'm a bit scatterbrained here, but I hope this makes sense to you guys. Don't kill him. Let the Agent check him out tonight. That gives us a way to kill Dopples easily, protects the Agent, and gives us a way to verify Webadict's honesty about being contacted, OR gives us a Liar or a Doppleganger to lynch tomorrow, and we'll be down to 2.
Post by: Archangel on March 27, 2009, 09:03:47 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 27, 2009, 09:06:36 pm
Maybe you just don't get it.
His win condition is mere survival, if he speaks truth.
His plan for us requires him to sacrifice himself.
As a former Survivor Alien, I wouldn't trust this guy any farther than I can throw him.
Post by: Beacon80 on March 27, 2009, 09:08:29 pm
Pandarsenic, how many times do I have to say this? I can't betray the townsfolk any more than you could betray the dopplegangers last time.
Post by: Org on March 27, 2009, 09:08:44 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 27, 2009, 09:15:00 pm
Can't you, Beacon80? Once you go to the Doppelganger side, we'll be under so much pressure that we can't afford to waste time lynching you - just like when it became obvious to the town that I was an Alien who was screwing them over.
I would hope that anyone from last game would've learned that lesson - I know I'm not resting until you're dead unless a Doppelganger is confirmed.
Post by: webadict on March 27, 2009, 09:19:10 pm
No, my plan is for you to sacrifice me the moment I betray you, or right before the dopps could use me for a gauranteed victory. Ideally, I'll help you kill the dopps before we reach that point. Yes, there's a decent chance that this plan will lead to my death, but it's better than not working with you at all and getting lynched now....You're saying you plan to lose for the town? Not likely. I would know. Pandarsenic knows. Because he tried last time and he wanted to win. The whole point is to win, not let the Town win.
Pandarsenic, how many times do I have to say this? I can't betray the townsfolk any more than you could betray the dopplegangers last time.
Check me.Org, you need to shut up. Saying this isn't helping anyone.
Post by: Archangel on March 27, 2009, 09:21:33 pm
Dude, Solifuge. Archangel.What I said was basically that we'll still be able to get rid of him tomorrow if we want. Do you understand my view better now?
Maybe you just don't get it.
His win condition is mere survival, if he speaks truth.
His plan for us requires him to sacrifice himself.
As a former Survivor Alien, I wouldn't trust this guy any farther than I can throw him.
Post by: Solifuge on March 27, 2009, 09:23:43 pm
Either way, he's a Town Ally. Stop trying to cast doubt on a person who has a 2/3 chance of being an ally (while currently most logical to be an ally), and who can easily be investigated and prove either to be immensely useful in getting rid of Dopples, or or a free definite lynch come tomorrow.
If you keep pushing this train of thought, you've got my Lynch vote, because you'll have lost all validity and sensibility, and tried to destroy what could be a game-turning move in the Towns Favor.
Post by: Beacon80 on March 27, 2009, 09:25:39 pm
Webaddict: I'm not saying I want to die for the town. I'm saying I'd rather work for you guys and be lynched if things go poorly than to be lynched right now.
There's an advantage here. I have to tell the truth. The moment I lie, it's game over for me. Yes, I could screw you guys over in the process, but
I still lose
So if I say I know something, I mean it. Lying will only cost me the game.
Look. Give me one day. Let the agent investigate me and contact me. My only hope of surviving is to make myself useful to you, so give me a chance to do that. If nothing else, I can confirm that it was the agent that spoke to webaddict.
Post by: Archangel on March 27, 2009, 09:28:15 pm
Post by: Beacon80 on March 27, 2009, 09:29:58 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 27, 2009, 09:31:11 pm
I know the Survivor Alien's Psychology firsthand.
A lynch is less worrisome than a nightkill by far. I struck against the town when it was too late for them to act against me. And as far as I can tell, none of you are yet even realizing there are 3 Doppelgangers remaining, not 2.
I'm getting food, I'll continue this in a bit.
Post by: Archangel on March 27, 2009, 09:35:07 pm
Quote
Contact the FBI - The Alien chooses one person a night. If that person is the Agent, the Alien wins. The Alien vanishes after it has won (goes to negotiate with the government). If that person is not the agent, however, the Alien kills them to keep their identity from being revealed. If the person is a doppelganger, there is a 50% chance the Alien will be killed instead. The Alien loses if the Agent is killed or if the town loses.The rules do not say the Agent leaves with the Agent Seeker.
Post by: Beacon80 on March 27, 2009, 09:35:41 pm
We've got 3 dopplegangers, 9 townsfolk (presumably), and me. As I've stated... many times... I'm not a threat until there's only 3 of you left. I'm offering up to be lynched right before that happens, because it's better than getting lynched now.
Archangel: The FBI-seeking alien is dead, anyway.
Post by: Archangel on March 27, 2009, 09:37:09 pm
Post by: Archangel on March 27, 2009, 09:39:23 pm
Post by: Masami Phonix on March 27, 2009, 09:44:05 pm
Assuming Beacon isn't lying about what he is, he can be a great asset. Pander has yet to explain why Beacon would betray us unless we get down to a point where both teams are on equal footing. Obviously we could kill him before that happens. The fact is, Beacon can no longer afford to betray us, because he has outed himself. The moment he proves anything a lie, we kill him. The moment we outnumber the dopps plus beacon by only one, we kill him.
Post by: webadict on March 27, 2009, 09:51:45 pm
I'm voting to lynch Pandersenic as well. I was planning on delaying voting till later in the day, but I'm doing it now because his insistance and lack of support logic is confusing and suspicious.... If we equal the Dopps in number of Townies... Then we lose. If Beacon adds one to our numbers, he'll switch sides as long as there are 3 Dopps.
Assuming Beacon isn't lying about what he is, he can be a great asset. Pander has yet to explain why Beacon would betray us unless we get down to a point where both teams are on equal footing. Obviously we could kill him before that happens. The fact is, Beacon can no longer afford to betray us, because he has outed himself. The moment he proves anything a lie, we kill him. The moment we outnumber the dopps plus beacon by only one, we kill him.
I say we lynch him tomorrow or today, depending on our information. He could switch at any moment...
Post by: Beacon80 on March 27, 2009, 09:56:59 pm
Post by: Solifuge on March 27, 2009, 10:01:04 pm
Thank you, Solifuge. If we both get out of this alive, you can have this... thing. I picked it up off of a Neptunian on my way here. No clue what it does.Besides, Beacon80 promised me his Neptunian thing, and I am easily swayed by riches.
Also, here's the current scoreboard:
13 people remain:
3 are Dopplegangers
10 are Citizens/Aliens (Agent-Seeker dead).
Standing: Town up by 6-7
Voters:
Beacon80: Pandarsenic
Archangel Pandarsenic
Masami Phoenix: Pandarsenic
Solifuge: Pandarsenic
Inaluct: Beacon80
Pandarsenic: Org
Non-Voters:
Alexhans
ChaoticJosh
Karlito
Kashyyk
NUKE9.13
Org
Webadict
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 27, 2009, 10:09:32 pm
If you guys have confidence that he'll side with us, and be loyal, I'll hold back my vote ONE DAY if you suggest a decent alternative.
A reminder, though.
MY VOTE IS NOT ON BEACON80 YOU MORONS. IT'S STILL ON THE SUSPICIOUSLY SILENT ORG.
Don't misrepresent my actions.
Post by: webadict on March 27, 2009, 10:15:15 pm
I have to cast my lynch vote for Pandarsenic too. You're not helping us by pushing senselessly to eliminate someone who is a either a much-needed ally and Agent liason, an ablative dopple-shield, or an easy lynch. Your reasoning is 2D and suspicious as hell.You're serious about letting him liaison for the Agent? Wow... Let's give our fate to a potential backstabber. Pandarsenic's right, whether you think so or not. He turns on us with the amount of information we plan to give him and we're toast and he wins anyway.
I implore you to believe me, Doctor! There have been no Agents to counter my claim, and I'm positive that we can win if you trust me. We need to win this game!
Post by: Beacon80 on March 27, 2009, 10:21:10 pm
Post by: Solifuge on March 27, 2009, 10:24:47 pm
You're serious about letting him liaison for the Agent? Wow... Let's give our fate to a potential backstabber. Pandarsenic's right, whether you think so or not. He turns on us with the amount of information we plan to give him and we're toast and he wins anyway.
I implore you to believe me, Doctor! There have been no Agents to counter my claim, and I'm positive that we can win if you trust me. We need to win this game!
Webadict, if the Agent scans him and finds out he's a Dopple, or even a potential danger, they won't tell him anything, and can instead rely on their contact with you to get his true nature, which we can then test with a lynch. This, of course, would rely on you actually having contact with the agent at all... frankly I'm getting the feeling that you're afraid of getting caught in a lie.
Also, Panda, I fixed the Scoreboard. I'm sorry about having your vote wrong; I misread your post saying you vote for Org until he proves a case, and thereafter Beacon80.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 27, 2009, 10:28:36 pm
Now, please, name for me ONE compelling reason we should trust Beacon80 to sacrifice himself for us - to intentionally lose for us - just because he says he will.
Post by: webadict on March 27, 2009, 10:31:14 pm
...By having someone other than a potential backstabber confirm me?You're serious about letting him liaison for the Agent? Wow... Let's give our fate to a potential backstabber. Pandarsenic's right, whether you think so or not. He turns on us with the amount of information we plan to give him and we're toast and he wins anyway.
I implore you to believe me, Doctor! There have been no Agents to counter my claim, and I'm positive that we can win if you trust me. We need to win this game!
Webadict, if the Agent scans him and finds out he's a Dopple, or even a potential danger, they won't tell him anything, and can instead rely on their contact with you to get his true nature, which we can then test with a lynch. This, of course, would rely on you actually having contact with the agent at all... frankly I'm getting the feeling that you're afraid of getting caught in a lie.
Also, Panda, I fixed the Scoreboard. I'm sorry about having your vote wrong; I misread your post saying you vote for Org until he proves a case, and thereafter Beacon80.
... Pandarsenic and I both know the danger of a Survival Alien. I know because I told him to switch.
And that was WITH bad math. If he voted against us, I was planning on killing him the Second Night, not the Third...I suppose.Well... think about it. If you vote for NUKE, he's lynched Day 1. SC is killed Night 1. chaoticjosh is lynched Day 2. Zai is killed Night 2. That means if we lynched the right guy on Day 3, we win AND you don't lose!I know. I'm still trying to work out if the town can win in any way....Technically, we couldn't stop you if you voted for SC. In fact, you'd win too, because why would the Dopps kill you? You helped them. You'd tie up the vote and then we'd be stuck. They'd kill SC, lynch someone the next day, and then win.Mathematically, I can guarantee my win if I vote for you guys, yes.Josh has just confirmed his Doppelganger-hood to me.Alright... this makes sense unless you are a Doppelganger (It's possible, I suppose.) And I think if we vote for NUKE, we automatically discredit josh, and therefore he goes for us if we vote for him.
His plan is what everyone suspects - get a Townie lynched in the Day, kill a Townie at night, and they have a majority for instant win.
I don't want you to go after Josh - they'll go for a punishment on me with their dying breath, they've confirmed.
Actually, the more I think about it, the more I think that it's dumb of you to do this. I don't see how being an Alien and helping the Town let's you win... Wouldn't you end up losing by not helping Josh?
But clearing out the Dopps would be infinitely more satisfying. Though I will take a win over a loss any day....
Otherwise, you'd technically lose. Why? Well, Night One kills SC, Night Two kills Zai and then Night Three would probably kill you. Or maybe not. If you really want the Town to win, you might as well vote with us, but you'd lose. And the whole point of the game is to win.
If I side with you, I'm almost guaranteed to lose but Town's almost guaranteed to win...
Damn it, there must be some way!
Of course, that's a 8 - 4= 4 - 1 (You) = 1 of 3 chance or 33%. Do you really want to win that badly? You'd have to pick between inaluct, Squeegy, or me in order to win, as opposed to a 100% chance of winning with the Dopps.
Of course, if you miss Day Three, you die and it becomes 2 or 3 people left: inaluct, Squeegy, and me. I'm thinking it's inaluct, but hey, what do I know? It could be Squeegy. Although, why are you bothering to ask me? What if I'm a Dopp? I mean, I can hardly trust that you're the Alien, but if you wanted a 100% chance of winning, you'd go with Doppelgangers, but it'd be less satisfying. Eh?
You just struck me as probably being town-aligned.
Meh, I'll just go with my guaranteed victory, I think.
This is the danger of a survival Alien.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 27, 2009, 10:34:38 pm
Post by: Beacon80 on March 27, 2009, 10:36:15 pm
Webaddict: I'll be lucky if I get through today. If I backstab you tomorrow, I'm done for.
Post by: Archangel on March 27, 2009, 10:37:55 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 27, 2009, 10:39:30 pm
Pandarsenic: I never said I'd intentionally lose for you. I just said it's impossible for me to win by siding with the dopps.
Then a Lynch All Liars Policy would require me to kill you.
Archangel: And what do you think about this?
Beacon80's supporters still have not provided me with a reason we should trust him.
Post by: Archangel on March 27, 2009, 10:43:28 pm
Post by: webadict on March 27, 2009, 10:45:20 pm
Pandarsenic: I never said I'd intentionally lose for you. I just said it's impossible for me to win by siding with the dopps.It's impossible for you to win by siding with them today... But someday soon, it'll be an opportunity to side with them.
Webaddict: I'll be lucky if I get through today. If I backstab you tomorrow, I'm done for.
Backstab me tomorrow? Fat chance. Especially if I know who the doctor is... We don't need your help Beacon, especially since you don't need ours.
If I plan on anyone siding with me, I'll let you know. I'd probably choose one of the non-voters, since it's more likely the Agent'll hit a Dopp.
Although, if the doctor is reading this, we can win.
I don't think we should trust him but we can kill him tomorrow if we wantProcrastination!
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 27, 2009, 10:46:02 pm
I don't think we should trust him but we can kill him tomorrow if we wantI see. And what if I consent to waiting one day on the condition of cutting him from all of our communication and role knowledge?
Post by: Beacon80 on March 27, 2009, 10:47:43 pm
How about the one I've said several times: I can confirm whether Webaddict has been contacted by the agent or not. Betraying the townsfolk at this point would only get me killed.Pandarsenic: I never said I'd intentionally lose for you. I just said it's impossible for me to win by siding with the dopps.
Then a Lynch All Liars Policy would require me to kill you.
Archangel: And what do you think about this?
Beacon80's supporters still have not provided me with a reason we should trust him.
And I'm not lying. The moment I side with the dopps, I get killed. The moment before me siding with the dopps would get them the majority, I get killed. So how am I supposed to side with the dopps and still win?
Also, knock it off with the big text. It's annoying.
Post by: Masami Phonix on March 27, 2009, 10:49:25 pm
I still think we should wait and see what information tomorrow brings before we kill Beacon. Even under Pandersenic's flimsy logic, Beacon can't screw us that fast.
As for defending ouy logic, you still haven't explained why we can't just kill him when there are five of us left. (or 4 if we've killed another Dopp)
Post by: webadict on March 27, 2009, 10:50:26 pm
The Agent has already said he wants nothing to do with Beacon. He knows his potential.I don't think we should trust him but we can kill him tomorrow if we wantI see. And what if I consent to waiting one day on the condition of cutting him from all of our communication and role knowledge?
Suddenly, I feel like that guy on Deal or No Deal talking for the Banker...
...Or, we go with someone trustworthy. Nice try, though.How about the one I've said several times: I can confirm whether Webaddict has been contacted by the agent or not. Betraying the townsfolk at this point would only get me killed.Pandarsenic: I never said I'd intentionally lose for you. I just said it's impossible for me to win by siding with the dopps.
Then a Lynch All Liars Policy would require me to kill you.
Archangel: And what do you think about this?
Beacon80's supporters still have not provided me with a reason we should trust him.
And I'm not lying. The moment I side with the dopps, I get killed. The moment before me siding with the dopps would get them the majority, I get killed. So how am I supposed to side with the dopps and still win?
Also, knock it off with the big text. It's annoying.
Post by: webadict on March 27, 2009, 10:51:31 pm
I'm actually changing my vote to Org. I believe Pandersenic to just be overly paranoid and not actually a dopp at this point.Because then we waste our lynch on him at 5 to 4. That means we drop to 4 to 3, where every lynch counts. If you want to play that way, you're not helping the town at all.
I still think we should wait and see what information tomorrow brings before we kill Beacon. Even under Pandersenic's flimsy logic, Beacon can't screw us that fast.
As for defending ouy logic, you still haven't explained why we can't just kill him when there are five of us left. (or 4 if we've killed another Dopp)
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 27, 2009, 10:52:31 pm
How?How about the one I've said several times: I can confirm whether Webaddict has been contacted by the agent or not. Betraying the townsfolk at this point would only get me killed.Pandarsenic: I never said I'd intentionally lose for you. I just said it's impossible for me to win by siding with the dopps.
Then a Lynch All Liars Policy would require me to kill you.
Archangel: And what do you think about this?
Beacon80's supporters still have not provided me with a reason we should trust him.
And I'm not lying. The moment I side with the dopps, I get killed. The moment before me siding with the dopps would get them the majority, I get killed. So how am I supposed to side with the dopps and still win?
Also, knock it off with the big text. It's annoying.
We'd be more concerned with killing Dopps.
Large text: If the players won't read it otherwise, I'll do what I must.
Re: Phonix
First, you highlighted my name instead of Org's. Second, the problem is that when he does screw us, it'll be TOO LATE. When we're at a low number of remaining players, his Victory Condition is much more likely to be fulfilled if he betrays us to get the Doppelgangers a quick majority so the game ends sooner.
e: Grammar fix
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 27, 2009, 11:14:00 pm
I'll let Beacon80 be scanned tonight. My vote will not go to him today unless he does something outrageously suspicious today.
Until then, ORG.
WHY ARE YOU SO QUIET?
COME OUT AND PLAY.
Post by: Org on March 27, 2009, 11:15:18 pm
Post by: webadict on March 27, 2009, 11:18:38 pm
Hmm? What?Also, post in Dodgeblock!
All right, I've talked with a few people and here's my stand....sigh. No point arguing with you people...
I'll let Beacon80 be scanned tonight. My vote will not go to him today unless he does something outrageously suspicious today.
Until then, ORG.
WHY ARE YOU SO QUIET?
COME OUT AND PLAY.
But, he's more dangerous to have around than to get rid of.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 27, 2009, 11:19:56 pm
Can we get a list of who hasn't posted something substantial more than twice this round?
Post by: Solifuge on March 27, 2009, 11:20:51 pm
My suspicions now lie with Org, who is suspicious for being a lurker who abstained seemingly to avoid notice, and Inaluct, who has been alternatingly zany, accusatory, and silent.
Also, Webadict, leaving Beacon80 alive is good for you... I find it odd that you don't see this.
Firstly, it makes more sense to focus on potential Dopplegangers than on a Neutral who will is currently an Ally. Treating Beacon80 as a liability assumes that the Town is loosing, which we are nowhere near.
Additionally, if we scan him tonight, then YOU, Webadict, can confirm his identity via your supposed Agent contact. Then we can lynch him, and see if what you say he is matches with what you said, thus vindicating you of ALL suspicion (you'll be set for the game), and taking care of an enemy.
If you really have an agent contact, Webadict, you should realize that this plan makes sense, helps you get in the clear, lets us spend our lynch guess today on Dopplegangers and not Aliens (who may just as well be a DoppSeeker), involves NO town risk, and deals with any potential threat Beacon80 could pose.
Unless you really don't have a contact, in which Beacon80's survival would pose a direct threat to exposing you as a liar, and Doppleganger suspect.
For the second time, might I add.
Post by: webadict on March 27, 2009, 11:24:52 pm
Since Pandarsenic has withdrawn his accusation, I have no more reason to suspect him as an enemy. I hereby Withdraw my Vote against Pandarsenic.That was really fast. I mean, switching from Pandarsenic who wants to get rid of the backstabber who could potentially help the Dopps, to Org within like 5 seconds because he doesn't want to get rid of the backstabber?
My suspicions now lie with Org, who is as suspicious as a lurker who abstained seemingly to avoid notice, and Inaluct, who has been alternatingly zany, accusatory, and silent.
...Really? Isn't that suspicious?
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 27, 2009, 11:32:14 pm
Post by: Solifuge on March 27, 2009, 11:37:32 pm
That was really fast. I mean, switching from Pandarsenic who wants to get rid of the backstabber who could potentially help the Dopps, to Org within like 5 seconds because he doesn't want to get rid of the backstabber?
...Really? Isn't that suspicious?
Pandarsenic and I had a chat. We each explained the reasoning behind our votes, and made a deal to let more info surface before we butt heads again.
EDIT: Webadict, you still haven't addressed how you want to kill Beacon80, when keeping him alive would absolve you of all suspicion. the only logical conclusion I can come to is that you're afraid of being caught in a bluff.
Post by: inaluct on March 27, 2009, 11:41:29 pm
No one's taking my "Most Paranoid Player" Award this game. No one.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 27, 2009, 11:54:04 pm
No one's taking my "Most Paranoid Player" Award this game. No one.I accuse EVERYONE, FOREVER!
HA!
WHO'S PARANOID NOW!?
YOU ALL ARE! YOU'RE ALL OUT TO GET ME TOO!
More seriously:
Archangel, I'm a bit curious about - he seems to be hovering around, kind of, seeing who might be drawing enough flak to start a bandwagon - for instance, someone taking a stand on something.
Org is still too quiet.
webadict was part of the plan that led to me screwing the town over in Paranormal One. He understands why I want Beacon80 dead because he was the one who made me realize the Survivor Alien's late-game threat.
Post by: webadict on March 27, 2009, 11:56:54 pm
EDIT: Webadict, you still haven't addressed how you want to kill Beacon80, when keeping him alive would absolve you of all suspicion. the only logical conclusion I can come to is that you're afraid of being caught in a bluff....I've totally addressed this in about five different ways. Keeping him alive only insures that we have someone we know will turn on us if it insures his win. Keeping him alive doesn't help us AT ALL!
I'm not afraid of choosing a person at random to have confirm me. I am afraid of giving the backstabber the Agent. Unless you'd prefer that? No, that seems completely illogical to you? I guess I'm a moron.
Duh, me stupid. Why me no think that earlierer?
Seriously, though. No. The Agent has said no, he'll look at someone else. He's not interested in Beacon because he can totally screw us over later on and he knows this. GOOD GOD, how many times does that need to be repeated?
Post by: Beacon80 on March 27, 2009, 11:58:16 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 27, 2009, 11:58:40 pm
Seriously, though. No. The Agent has said no, he'll look at someone else. He's not interested in Beacon because he can totally screw us over later on and he knows this. GOOD GOD, how many times does that need to be repeated?
... Really?
That puts a dent in the Lynch Procrastination Plan.
Post by: webadict on March 28, 2009, 12:00:33 am
Yeah, he wanted me to tell you guys he's checking someone more random, instead of wasting his vote on a potential threat.Seriously, though. No. The Agent has said no, he'll look at someone else. He's not interested in Beacon because he can totally screw us over later on and he knows this. GOOD GOD, how many times does that need to be repeated?
... Really?
That puts a dent in the Lynch Procrastination Plan.
He doesn't want anything to do with Beacon. At all.
Post by: inaluct on March 28, 2009, 12:02:13 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 28, 2009, 12:09:56 am
Which means that his proposal has no way of working for us. We have to lynch him.Damn it, inaluct speaks true.
He's a threat we can't check because the agent won't; the only thing we can REALLY do is ensure he's not a danger to us, right...?
Post by: Alexhans on March 28, 2009, 01:42:48 am
Quote from: Alexhans
still 13 left:
NUKE9.13 decent activity. No stance.
chaoticjosh dont remember seen much from him.
Pandarsenic Pushes alleged alien beacon lynch.
webadict claims to have been contacted by agent.
Alexhans Im me. Pro town forever ;)
Org Low contribution. evasiveness.
Kashyyk MIA
Beacon80 Claimed surviving alien.
Karlito MIA?
inaluct Decent activity. scumhunting.
Solifuge rationale. Good content.
Masami Phonix pushed Pandar lynch
Archangel pushed Pandar lynch
Cheeetar Lynched day 1. Alien seeking FBI
Katsuun Killed by vet night 1. Dopp
Zaithemaster (who was not on the list somehow) Killed by dopp katsuun. Army Vet.I've read the last posts and didn't like very much the push on Pandar... by Masami and Archangel... seeing it's 3/13 chances to lynch right... maybe 3/11 not counting webadict or beacon if we intend to use them... is it so bad to advocate a nolynch now? I really have not much clue as to what to do... tomorrow should tell us a couple of things about this whole agent-webadict-beacon situation... I thought cheetar was scum and was not entirely wrong... but now im not sure.
I repeat... the ones I find suspicious right now are Masami and Archangel.
On another note I hate what ORG's doing. Active lurking is definetly worst than lurking... But I've always known Org to play in unique style so I don't know if it's a scum tell. Kashyyk and Karlito are 2 people I'd like to hear from when they are around and I would also like chaotic to give us his opinion on recent matters.
Post by: Masami Phonix on March 28, 2009, 02:41:26 am
But I'm starting to get suspicious about Webaddict again. We have him claiming that the Agent wants nothing to do with this, but if he's lying about the agent talking to him in the first place, he could be lying about the agent saying he wants nothing to do with Beacon. I don't see how we can trust that he's speaking for the agent, when we have no evidence. The fact that the agent hasn't said anything could merely be the agent protecting his own identity.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 28, 2009, 03:11:16 am
Post by: webadict on March 28, 2009, 08:19:23 am
Org has a role, he's trying to avoid being lynched. Albeit he plays in a... bad way. I wish he would've shut up though.
I think this is the current list.Masami:Quote from: Alexhansstill 13 left:
NUKE9.13 decent activity. No stance.
chaoticjosh dont remember seen much from him.
Pandarsenic Pushes alleged alien beacon lynch.
webadict claims to have been contacted by agent.
Alexhans Im me. Pro town forever ;)
Org Low contribution. evasiveness.
Kashyyk MIA
Beacon80 Claimed surviving alien.
Karlito MIA?
inaluct Decent activity. scumhunting.
Solifuge rationale. Good content.
Masami Phonix pushed Pandar lynch
Archangel pushed Pandar lynch
Cheeetar Lynched day 1. Alien seeking FBI
Katsuun Killed by vet night 1. Dopp
Zaithemaster (who was not on the list somehow) Killed by dopp katsuun. Army Vet.I've read the last posts and didn't like very much the push on Pandar... by Masami and Archangel... seeing it's 3/13 chances to lynch right... maybe 3/11 not counting webadict or beacon if we intend to use them... is it so bad to advocate a nolynch now? I really have not much clue as to what to do... tomorrow should tell us a couple of things about this whole agent-webadict-beacon situation... I thought cheetar was scum and was not entirely wrong... but now im not sure.
I repeat... the ones I find suspicious right now are Masami and Archangel.
On another note I hate what ORG's doing. Active lurking is definetly worst than lurking... But I've always known Org to play in unique style so I don't know if it's a scum tell. Kashyyk and Karlito are 2 people I'd like to hear from when they are around and I would also like chaotic to give us his opinion on recent matters.
Okay, to fix my botch and make it official, I am voting for Org.Don't believe me? Perhaps someone needs investigation? Don't worry. You're only acting really suspicious.
But I'm starting to get suspicious about Webaddict again. We have him claiming that the Agent wants nothing to do with this, but if he's lying about the agent talking to him in the first place, he could be lying about the agent saying he wants nothing to do with Beacon. I don't see how we can trust that he's speaking for the agent, when we have no evidence. The fact that the agent hasn't said anything could merely be the agent protecting his own identity.
I mean, wanting to keep the Survival Alien... Don't believe me... Oh, that's fine. We have nights to find these things out, don't we?
I've already told you, the Agent doesn't need to waste a scan on a backstabber. The only reason he isn't stabbing our backs is because we've got more people.
Post by: Org on March 28, 2009, 09:57:19 am
Ill roleclaim if I have to. Cant say much other than that to defend me.
Post by: Beacon80 on March 28, 2009, 10:52:27 am
IF being the key word.
Webaddict is clearly an experienced player. He thinks things through, comes at things from various angles. Plus he's as paranoid as a hen in a foxhouse. What makes me suspicious is that such an experienced player would ask the doctor to come forward when there's no evidence that this isn't some doppleganger trick to get the doctor out of the way.
Post by: Beacon80 on March 28, 2009, 11:24:55 am
Apparently I was wrong.
This is my first time playing. I made a newb move. I'll be smarter about it next time.
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 28, 2009, 11:31:07 am
lolwhat?
On the basis of Lynch all Liars, I should vote Beacon.
On the basis of the fact that you are an anti-town role (cop hunter), I should vote Beacon.
On the basis of the fact that nothing would be lost if we lynch a player like this, Beacon
Post by: Org on March 28, 2009, 11:33:06 am
Post by: Beacon80 on March 28, 2009, 11:34:50 am
Okay, Lynch All Liars... yes, that would mean vote for me. I won't deny I lied. I'm new to this game and made a mistake.
I'm not the agent seeker. The agent seeker is dead!
And as for your claim that "nothing would be lost", you have no basis to say that. You don't know who I am. Unless I'm a doppleganger or a destroy-everything alien, I'm beneficial to your side, but if I were one of those, why would I try to contact the agent?
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 28, 2009, 11:47:00 am
I would also like chaotic to give us his opinion on recent matters.
Me? You can call me Josh you know, or even Joshua.
There is apparent suspicion and motive flying everywhere, but all I can see is a quagmire of confusion.
Beacon first asserted that he was a survivor alien, then asserted he was agent seeker? Then he said he's NOT the agent seeker? I'm not sure what to make of this, I had to look up LAL in the mafia-wiki to see what Pandar was talking about.
Alot of stuff about Webadict getting in touch with the agent, and the (many) possibilities regarding this? WA's a pretty smart guy, I know, I don't think he'd lie so recklessly. If he's lying or being lied to, then it's the sort of gambit that could easily collapse on itself is what I'm trying to say, so the possibility of him telling the truth is fairly high.
I'm honestly confused though. So long as the Agent and the Doctor are still out there, then I think the town still has a good chance. So I Abstain.
Post by: Beacon80 on March 28, 2009, 11:50:48 am
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 28, 2009, 11:57:56 am
Post by: Org on March 28, 2009, 11:59:09 am
Abstain
Post by: Kashyyk on March 28, 2009, 12:35:49 pm
You leave for 24 hours and 8 pages of text turn up!
Ok, Beacon seems vagually suspicios, as does Pandar. Before I vote, what is the vote count at the moment?
Post by: Org on March 28, 2009, 12:37:46 pm
I am the doctor. I am not a doppleganger.
Edit: Apparently, people are worried because of my post.
Let me be clearer.
I AM THE DOCTOR.
Post by: inaluct on March 28, 2009, 12:42:25 pm
Post by: Kashyyk on March 28, 2009, 12:46:51 pm
Well, me and Inaluct, atleast me, have more trust in you, now would you please remove it so you don't get ate?
Post by: Org on March 28, 2009, 12:47:54 pm
Post by: Solifuge on March 28, 2009, 12:51:01 pm
Mid post, family issues came up. May be back, if you dont hear from me for a few days drop me from the game.
Post by: webadict on March 28, 2009, 01:04:54 pm
Post by: inaluct on March 28, 2009, 01:09:45 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 28, 2009, 01:24:25 pm
I'll decide later. But first I unvote.
Post by: Alexhans on March 28, 2009, 01:29:42 pm
Quote
Me? You can call me Josh you know, or even Joshua.Sorry Josh, Is just I tend to abreviate with the first word of the nickname. :p
@ORG:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! Didn't you read my posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You musn't claim something you're not and less the doc! doc's will get killed for sure!
Quote from: webadict2. If I were the Doppelganger leader, I'd pose as the doctor, like I already said. Much less risky than this, and it forces the real doctor into the open, which is my main risk. Plus, I'd kill the agent that contacted me. Simple as that.It really doesn't if you think it right... If I were the doc I would never come out to lynch you if you claim. That would be calling for my death. Instead... I would wait a night and then push your lynch saying that it's absurd that you haven't died as there is no one to protect you. Then again... people here might mislynch me for that but it's the optimal strategy... I think.
And also guys... I'm sorry for us but editing is against the rules in mafia. He can still recognize he lied though. As he and me know. We've chatted.
Post by: webadict on March 28, 2009, 02:32:27 pm
Beacon... I'm sorry but you just made us discuss like 5 pages too finally tell us you're not the alien... THAT DOESN'T HELP AT ALL... you've lied so much that it is difficult for the town to discover the truth now. For future games... Don't pull that stunts because town must try to win with the truth. Lying is scummy. There's no reason to lie as town because you mix up everything.There are a couple of reasons you'd lie as town, but not many. I don't think Beacon meant to do anything from that.
I'd still like to point out that Solifuge is suspicious.
Also, I suppose we've found the Doctor... Although there's no reason for the agent to come forth just yet... for obvious reasons.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 28, 2009, 02:33:22 pm
I will die of laughter if Org is another Vet baiting the Dopps into an attack. :3Beacon... I'm sorry but you just made us discuss like 5 pages too finally tell us you're not the alien... THAT DOESN'T HELP AT ALL... you've lied so much that it is difficult for the town to discover the truth now. For future games... Don't pull that stunts because town must try to win with the truth. Lying is scummy. There's no reason to lie as town because you mix up everything.There are a couple of reasons you'd lie as town, but not many. I don't think Beacon meant to do anything from that.
I'd still like to point out that Solifuge is suspicious.
Also, I suppose we've found the Doctor... Although there's no reason for the agent to come forth just yet... for obvious reasons.
Post by: Masami Phonix on March 28, 2009, 04:04:18 pm
I'm going to vote for Karlito because he's still suspiciously quiet, even after being called out.
Post by: Mephansteras on March 28, 2009, 04:04:43 pm
First off, Day 2 will end Sunday ~5pm Pacific. Or whenever after that I can get to a computer. I was away from my computer pretty much all day yesterday, so I'm sorry I couldn't answer questions before that. Man, that's a lot of posts to wade through.
Second, there are no guaranteed roles. We can have just a doc, just an agent, neither, whatever. The only thing that IS guaranteed is that there were 4 dopps at the beginning of the game. Also, there can only be one doc, one agent, one dopp leader, and 1 of each type of alien, max.
Third, yes, there can be more then one Vet.
Fourth, dead people cannot talk. Sorry, but it messes things up too much.
Fifth, no editing of posts. You say it, it stays said. The only person who can edit posts is me, and that's so I can make sure I don't say something that'll mess people up.
Any other rule questions I can answer?
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 28, 2009, 04:09:16 pm
Who do we lynch?
Does anyone have any good ideas?
Post by: Kashyyk on March 28, 2009, 04:11:25 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 28, 2009, 04:13:34 pm
Post by: Archangel on March 29, 2009, 02:09:06 am
Post by: webadict on March 29, 2009, 09:16:57 am
Karlito seems like a good enough idea, seeing as he has said almost nothing as far as I can remember.That's true. I suppose I'll vote Karlito for now...
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 29, 2009, 01:07:58 pm
What's the vote count?
Post by: Org on March 29, 2009, 01:28:31 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 29, 2009, 02:07:46 pm
Why did the activity in this mafia go from "Very active" to "not very active at all"?
Weekends seem to be much slower then weekdays for some reason. Which is why I extended day 2 out to tonight instead of Saturday night.
If it stays really dead I may extend it through Monday to give more people a chance to speak. Right now we only have 8 votes on my tally sheet.
Post by: Kashyyk on March 29, 2009, 04:09:34 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 29, 2009, 05:07:49 pm
I think I'll push the deadline out to Monday at 5pm Pacific. That'll give more people a chance to talk and vote, since we only have slightly over half of the living players with votes right now.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 29, 2009, 11:07:50 pm
Post by: NUKE9.13 on March 30, 2009, 02:14:42 am
Karlito
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 30, 2009, 02:20:16 am
GetFixing a typo.ourout here, Karlito!
Seriously, Karlito. Come ON.
Post by: Mephansteras on March 30, 2009, 11:58:31 am
Just a reminder, Day 2 ends at ~5pm Pacific time today.
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 30, 2009, 12:12:52 pm
*several hours pass*
"Alright, now it's setting for real this time. What, no no no, it did it again! What's going on here!?"
Post by: Masami Phonix on March 30, 2009, 01:12:42 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 30, 2009, 01:45:31 pm
Post by: Kashyyk on March 30, 2009, 01:49:10 pm
Post by: Beacon80 on March 30, 2009, 01:52:03 pm
"Oh look, the sun is setting... Oh wait, no, it's high noon.... Wait... did the sun just move by itself?"Must be summer solstice.
*several hours pass*
"Alright, now it's setting for real this time. What, no no no, it did it again! What's going on here!?"
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 30, 2009, 01:53:37 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 30, 2009, 01:55:34 pm
Post by: Alexhans on March 30, 2009, 05:12:57 pm
And By the way... No one wished me happy birthday? :(
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 30, 2009, 05:16:26 pm
Post by: Org on March 30, 2009, 05:30:01 pm
Did you get a cake?
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 30, 2009, 05:33:15 pm
Post by: Alexhans on March 30, 2009, 05:36:22 pm
Happy Birthday.Just in my profile... :-\
Did you get a cake?
(http://www.bay12games.com/forum/Themes/default/images/bdaycake.gif)
Thanks Toady. Nice detail ;)
NO... Im kidding... Tonight Im gonna have a party with a part of my family... And on wednesday night a party with my friends in a bar with board games and food (Paradise ;D Pictionary and french fries, salami, cheese, coke... and at last... Banana Split!!!).
I do it on wednesday 1 because April 2 is Malvinas day so everybody can stay up late. The holiday is to remember an Idiotic dictator who sent young people to die in an impossible war to save his position in the goverment....
Post by: Mephansteras on March 30, 2009, 07:06:44 pm
The long day finally crawls to an end. Karlito, sitting in stunned silence for the day, is picked up and dragged outside. He does not protest, he does not fight back, he just sits silently and awaits his fate.
*crack*
The rifle shot hits him square in the head. His lifeless body falls to the ground...where it remains human. A search of his body and his house reveal nothing strange. It seems he was just a normal person.
Glumly, you all return to your houses to await the night.
Night roles, send me your actions!
Thread is locked until Day 3 dawns.
(Oh, and Happy Birthday Alexhans!)
Post by: Mephansteras on March 31, 2009, 05:07:50 pm
Many of you heard shots fired last night. Both those of some sort of automatic rifle and...something else. As you convene the next day at the town hall Webadict tells you all that there is something you must see.
You follow him to his house. There, on the lawn, is the body of some strange being. Obviously an alien. Its right arm has been severed at the elbow, and the arm, along with an unusual looking gun, lie on the ground beside it. The creatures head was also severed, and lies a few feet beyond the body. Its features are masked by an advanced looking helm made of some matte black substance. The entire creature's body is also covered in black armor. What little flesh you do see is a strange reddish-brown. As Solifuge is the only person missing, you guess that this must be his true form.
Looking around, you can see where a nearby tree was hit by a blast from the rifle. You also see the remains of a trash can littering the side of the street. The plastic still smolders faintly in a few places. According to Webadict, he witnessed a fight between this creature and a doppelganger outside his house last night. The doppelganger survived and fled into the night.
Searching the body, you discover this log book. In a fortunate twist of fate, it has been written in English.
Quote from: Alien Logbook
Mission Log, Day 1:
I have safely reached the test planet, Earth. In the interest of company security, I will encode this log in the native language of these pre-interstellar beings, lest the transmission be intercepted by one of our rivals.
I have successfully located all 5 incubation pods of our experimental lifeform within a single settlement, and operations will begin here. The native beings should not suspect my presence, as I have copied the holoform of one "Solifuge", a member of this settlement who fled before proper containment measures were enacted. All routes out of the settlement have since been destroyed.
The Earthlings have already killed one of the experimental lifeforms... Dopplegangers, as they call them. The remaining 4 have integrated into the population, and as of yet I cannot verify their identities. Also of note, through a process I can only describe as Democratic Murder, the Earthlings inadvertently eliminated a rival who planned to inform their government of our experiment. It is quite a stroke of luck, but such an institution means that I must continue to avoid their suspicions.
For now, I will work alongside the Earthlings, as our goals are the same. When the time comes, however, you have my word that there will be nothing left here that could be traced back to the company.
Mission Log: Day 2
An old man from the settlement, one Webadict, has become suspicious of my activities in town. Though I have only tried to root out Dopplegangers at present, he still insists that I am suspicious, undermines my arguments, and points an accusatory finger both at me, and at several other townspeople with little reason. He claims to have ties to an Earthling Agent investigating this town as well... the same Agent whom my rival was attempting to contact about our operations. If this is a truthful claim, he could pose a great threat to our operations.
Luckily, a unique opportunity has presented itself tonight. Another townsperson, Beacon80, claims that he is a spacefarer... though it may well have been a lie to avoid being democratically murdered, I can still use this to my advantage.
Tonight, I will kill Webadict. Because of Beacon80's claim, I can do this with impunity, as the blame will naturally shift onto the self-proclaimed "Alien", and they will likely vote to murder him in the morning.
The wipe will continue. You have my word.
Mulling over this unexpected event, you return to the town hall for the day's grisly work.
Day 3 will end Thursday ~5pm Pacific Time.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 31, 2009, 05:28:57 pm
Wait, hold up... that's two aliens already.
Pandarsenic examines the scene. "I suppose that would mean Beacon80 is a liar, wouldn't it? There can't possibly be more than 2 aliens, right? I'll FoS Beacon80, in case I've missed something."
Post by: Mephansteras on March 31, 2009, 05:30:58 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 31, 2009, 05:33:51 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on March 31, 2009, 05:49:08 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 31, 2009, 05:55:21 pm
Post by: JoshuaFH on March 31, 2009, 06:04:30 pm
Do you have evidence to support this guess Pandar, or is it just pure speculation?
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 31, 2009, 06:06:05 pm
Believe me, if I had evidence, I wouldn't just be FoSing, I'd actually be voting.
I still stand by that whether he is an Alien Survivor or a Dopp, we should probably blow him up.
Post by: Masami Phonix on March 31, 2009, 06:07:45 pm
At this point, I'm inclined to believe Beacon80 is a townie. Either that or he IS a third alien (most likely the survivor type or perhaps a Dopp grabber). My reasoning is this.
1) From Webaddict's accounts, we can assume that he was targetted by both a Dopp and by this... alien thing. He only survived because both went after him at the same time.
2) The alien fully admitted that his killing Webaddict would serve two purposes, to get rid of Webaddict, and to cast blame onto Beacon, getting him killed as well.
3) It's no small stretch to assume that the dopps would figure a similar situation. Killing Webaddict would surely cause suspicion to fall further on Beacon and most likely get him lynched.
4) If Beacon is a dopp, they do not want this, and Webaddict being alive and pointing a finger at Beacon is less of a threat than Webaddict being dead and other's pointing a gun at Beacon. They have already lost one of their members, they cannot afford to lose another so quickly.
5) If beacon is not a dopp, however, then they benefit from the same advantages that Solifuge would have. i.e. they get the town to do their dirty work for them.
Now I'm not saying that Beacon is clear from suspicion at this point. The counterpoints are these possibilities:
1) Beacon lied and is a dopp. In this case the dopps are counting on a though process similar to the one I just listed as a way of exonerating Beacon and getting rid of a suspicion at the same time. Of course the "I know t hat you know that I know" loop can go on forever.
2) Beacon initially told the truth and is a survivor alien, and is trying to cover it up. In this case we're back to the earlier point counterpoint that we've had on whether or not we can trust the survivor type.
The other possibility is that Beacon is actually the Dopp-grabber alien, and he's trying to get the Agent to finger a dopp for him. I'm not s ure how that impacts things.
At this point, I'm really not sure how to handle Beacon. I'm not going to vote for his death yet, but I'm going to remain very suspicious of his actions. If we don't get a good suspicion on somebody else today however, I'm going to vote for his execution.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 31, 2009, 06:12:52 pm
His absurdly erratic actions are not inspiring confidence for him in me, I can tell you that much.
Post by: Masami Phonix on March 31, 2009, 11:27:57 pm
Post by: inaluct on March 31, 2009, 11:49:15 pm
And now Phonix is trying to draw attention away from Beacon by voting for Org. Org's actions are suspicious, but not nearly as suspicious as Phonix's.
Vote Masami Phonix.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 31, 2009, 11:53:06 pm
Post by: Masami Phonix on April 01, 2009, 12:12:52 am
And yes, I'm going after the guy who roleclaimed the Doctor. I don't trust him. Why would the dopps go after Solifuge (not that I'm complaining) who didn't really have much to draw them to him if they had the doctor they could kill.
Explain why Org wasn't butchered during the night and I'll rescind my vote.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 01, 2009, 12:20:04 am
Post by: inaluct on April 01, 2009, 12:27:17 am
I'm inclined to believe Beacon80 is a townie.
You defended him. You're still defending him.
You're a doppelganger.
Post by: Solifuge on April 01, 2009, 04:25:37 am
Also kudos to all on what has, even for just being 2 days in, a rather convoluted and exciting game.
My extermination plans have been foiled... and I would have gotten away with it too, if it hadn't been for those meddling dopplegangers.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 01, 2009, 04:43:22 am
Now, I just looked at this again.
There are only 2 hours remaining in the day, and our tally is as follows:
Voters:
Beacon80: Webadict (for being manipulative and accusatory)
Solifuge: Webadict (for bloodthirsty rabble-rousing)
NUKE9.13: Webadict (for unsupported accusations)
Cheertar: Webadict (bandwagoning)
Masami Phoenix: Beacon80 (for quietness and non-confrontationality)
Webadict: Beacon80 (for conspicuous silence)
Zaithemaster: Pandarsenic (for putting words in Webadicts mouth)
Inaluct: Pandarsenic (bandwagoning / for pointing the FoS at him)
Pandarsenic: Abstain
ChaoticJosh: Abstain
Org: Abstain
Non-Voters:
Alexhans
Archangel
Karlito
Katsuun
Kashyyk
Actions of note: (Biased - it's hard trying to look at yourself suspiciously)
Solifuge - Moderate activity. First to post. Promoted following gut instinct.Communist ties.
Beacon80 - Moderate activity.
NUKE9.13 - Moderate activity.
Cheertar - Low activity. Informed about Aliens. Possible bandwagoner.
Masami Phoenix - Moderate activity. Accused someone for silence/inactivity.
Webadict - High activity. Does extensive research of players. Accusatory.
Zaithemaster - Low activity. Doesn't accuse or talk much. Said not to save him in the night.
Inaluct - Moderate activity. Acts crazy and entertaining most times, but coherent while accusing. Possible bandwagoner.
Pandarsenic - Moderate activity.
ChaoticJosh - Moderate activity.
Org - Low activity.
Alexhans - Low activity. Logical and observant.
Archangel - No activity.
Karlito - No activity.
Katsuun - Low activity.
Kashyyk - Low activity.
When webadict was clearly likely to get a lynch, Masami Phonix voted for Beacon80, who voted for webadict. I find this highly suspicious, for one - almost like a deliberate diversionary tactic.
I'm going to with inaluct on this. Masami Phonix, you draw our suspicion.
If Masami Phonix votes for Beacon80, I may switch to Beacon80.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 01, 2009, 05:08:58 am
Quote from: Status
Players list:
- NUKE9.13
- chaoticjosh
Cheeetar- Pandarsenic
- webadict
- Alexhans
Katsuun- Org
- Kashyyk
- Beacon80
Karlito- inaluct
Solifuge- Masami Phonix
- Archangel
Zaithemaster
Day 1: Cheeetar lynched in backlash for his Scummy vote for webadict. Surprise ensues when everyone realizes he's an alien and not a Dopp.
Night 1: Doppelgangers send inactive Dopp Katsuun after minimally-active Townie Vet Zaithemaster. Bloodshed ensues.
Day 2: Org roleclaims Doc, Beacon80 roleclaims Survivor Alien then says he was lying. Lynch lands on Karlito for inactivity, who turns out to be a normal Townie.
Night 2: Doppelgangers kill Solifuge, interrupting his attempt to kill webadict. Link of webadict's survival to Dopps and/or Doctor is unknown.
Day 3: In progress, but Masami Phonix is defending Beacon80, who is acting very suspicious....
Hey, is it just my imagination or has chaoticjosh been VERY quiet after the first day...?
Post by: NUKE9.13 on April 01, 2009, 06:54:35 am
I would like to also point out that under Lynch_all_liars, Beacon80 is a legal target. It appears to have been concluded that beacon's lying was due to n00bishness.
Pah pah pah.
Whilst I have wondered as to Masami's motives for a while (I thought he was the cop for a while), I don't think that he should be lynched. If he is a dopp, then his protectee is probably one too. Of course, beacon could be a fake defence target, to be lynched to prove masami's 'innocence', but I doubt it; that would be very risky: see now.
Anyway... if masami is not a dopp, beacon remains a legal target for his lying.
My point is: Masami's suspiciousness is automatically carried over to beacon. Beacon is already a confirmed liar, so he is doubly lynchable.
Beacon80
Post by: Alexhans on April 01, 2009, 10:36:18 am
webadict was saved by the bell then? I need a list with alive players...
Quote from: Masami
From Webaddict's accounts, we can assume that he was targetted by both a Dopp and by this... alien thing. He only survived because both went after him at the same time.Wow... why do you think that? I think it says that solifuge intended to kill web but was killed first...
Quote from: Masami
2) The alien fully admitted that his killing Webaddict would serve two purposes, to get rid of Webaddict, and to cast blame onto Beacon, getting him killed as well.How do you know so much what the dopps would do man? I think you may be using what you indeed know it was dopps strategy to clear yourself from suspicion...
3) It's no small stretch to assume that the dopps would figure a similar situation. Killing Webaddict would surely cause suspicion to fall further on Beacon and most likely get him lynched.
Okay, since it's so quiet, I'm going to vote against Org. The fact that he wasn't targeted last night strongly indicates that he's a dopp. I believe he just threw out the "I'm the Doctor" thing to stop people from voting against him.And then you voted for org???? Fu&(/&/ it... vote Masami
well so Inaluct... and Pandar agree with me...
mmm... Nuke... doesn't... I'm not sure about beacon though. Josh is mystery man... He well could be a dopp... Let's hear what he has to say.
Post by: Kashyyk on April 01, 2009, 11:46:37 am
Org cause he didn't die last night,
Phonix for trying to distract everyone away from Beacon
and Beacon because of his previous alien claim.
on a side note, I will be MIA for a week starting tomorrow, so please don't lynch me!
Post by: webadict on April 01, 2009, 04:25:09 pm
If you truly want to find a doppelganger, and I'm sure some of you do, lynch Pandarsenic.
I promise you, with his death, you'll find a Doppelganger's corpse.
Post by: Org on April 01, 2009, 04:31:44 pm
Il keep watching. Waiting.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 01, 2009, 06:34:18 pm
What's this, webadict?
Post by: webadict on April 01, 2009, 07:01:16 pm
I withdraw my vote for Masami Phonix.You're a Doppelganger. Simple as that. Only your death can help this Town. Unfortunately, you're non-ceasing attempts to know the identity of the Agent have led me to believe you are the Doppelganger, and not only that, but the Leader.
What's this, webadict?
You have no role, and your experience would lead me to believe that you would, if you were Town, try to find the power roles in the Town, instead of trying to have the Agent scan you during the night to help the investigations. Instead, you ask me to ask the Agent to scan you during the night, or that you should learn his name in order to "establish his trustworthiness." Clearly, the latter is not my greatest concern, but rather the former, since wasting a night to scan a powerless Townie is pointless, unless you needed to know the power roles in order to win. Hence I deduce that you are a doppelganger. Your lynching today will prove all my assumptions right, and I shall win this for the Town.
I suggest everyone vote the same, and you will find he is a Doppelganger.
Post by: inaluct on April 01, 2009, 07:09:22 pm
I'm still voting for Masami Phonix, because of the aforementioned stuff.
Post by: Org on April 01, 2009, 07:11:10 pm
I am very suspicious of him.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 01, 2009, 07:18:17 pm
While I would have liked to engage in direct group dialogue with the agent and a townie core, I didn't find doing so necessary; I backed off. In addition, don't you think the Doppelgangers would have, you know, ATTACKED THE PERSON YOU INDICATED TO ME AS BEING THE DOCTOR IN OUR PMS if I were one of them? You guys did the "let the doctor live for ages" thing last time, I doubt they'd try to repeat the same trick.
inaluct: regardless of webadict's actions, I believe his connection to the agent. Masami Phonix is probably just a newbie, like Org was in some of the other Mafias.
But seriously, you guys. What the hell proof do you want from me?
Post by: Org on April 01, 2009, 07:19:28 pm
We can tell then.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 01, 2009, 07:23:54 pm
3 of the remaining 11 players are Doppelgangers. If Beacon80 really is an Alien Survivor, 3 of 10 relevant players are Dopps.
If we lynch two innocents and the Doctor doesn't guess correctly or is eliminated, the game is over by Night 4's end.
If someone can demonstrate his innocence or probable innocence (or another's) without being killed, we owe it to the Town to allow it; I've withdrawn votes for you, Beacon80, webadict, and Masami, all because of convincing arguments that that's what BENEFITS THE TOWN.
What the hell more do you want from me?
Post by: Org on April 01, 2009, 07:25:48 pm
But how can you show us you are not a Doppleganger.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 01, 2009, 07:37:11 pm
I've done everything I can to help the town out in this game. I've provided reasoned and logical arguments with every vote I've made. I've accepted, considered, and even changed my mind based on the arguments of others. I've refused to OMGUS and tried not to Bandwagon wherever possible. I've established PM contact with a couple of people I decided I should trust to discuss possibilities.
The most suspicious thing I can think of that I've done was that I suggested the establishment of a confirmed pro-Town base with the Agent, a result of my erroneously applying the logic of webadict's DF Mafia, with 2 cops and no unscannable Scum, into Paranormal Mafia, which apparently has 1 cop and may have 1 unscannable Scum.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 01, 2009, 09:24:55 pm
Noon has come and gone, and to sate your growling stomachs you walk across the street to the neighborhood fast food joint. Using half-remembered skills from your younger days and a bit of logic, you manage to whip together some edible hamburgers. The finger-pointing, dramatics, and general gloom of your current situation still hang over the meal, however, and you return to the town hall not long afterwords.
Reminder, day 3 ends Thursday at ~5pm Pacific Time.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 02, 2009, 12:32:58 am
I will vote for whichever player webadict votes for on this day until stated otherwise.
Post by: webadict on April 02, 2009, 12:35:15 am
Post by: Solifuge on April 02, 2009, 12:45:11 am
Here's my solution to this. I will vote for whichever player webadict votes for on this day until stated otherwise.((It would have been funny if Webadict had voted for Pandarsenic))
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 02, 2009, 12:52:01 am
Post by: NUKE9.13 on April 02, 2009, 07:11:29 am
"..."
"GUY WITH WRENCH"
"I-I'm sorry sir. It appears... it appears that everything has gone bat-fuck-insane."
"NOOOOOOO"
Ok. Ok. I've got this.
If Masami Phonix is innocent (Which I assume is the case as webadict says so and webadict is the cop's middle man), then his protecting of beacon is also innocent, and therefore beacon's credibility rises.
Unvote
I don't see why inaluct is suspicious.
I don't know who to vote for.
Post by: webadict on April 02, 2009, 10:52:28 am
"Guy with wrench, check the status of Paranormal Mafia!"Well, if you thought Masami was guilty and you think inaluct is innocent and one of them is already wrong... Couldn't it be possible the other is wrong?
"..."
"GUY WITH WRENCH"
"I-I'm sorry sir. It appears... it appears that everything has gone bat-fuck-insane."
"NOOOOOOO"
Ok. Ok. I've got this.
If Masami Phonix is innocent (Which I assume is the case as webadict says so and webadict is the cop's middle man), then his protecting of beacon is also innocent, and therefore beacon's credibility rises.
Unvote
I don't see why inaluct is suspicious.
I don't know who to vote for.
Also, some people need a date with the Agent... You'll find out who later.
I'm not that cruel. Or that funny.Here's my solution to this. I will vote for whichever player webadict votes for on this day until stated otherwise.((It would have been funny if Webadict had voted for Pandarsenic))
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 02, 2009, 04:33:00 pm
inaluct nearly started a bandwagon on chaoticjosh for looking like Adam Sandler.
Yeah....
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 02, 2009, 04:42:11 pm
Post by: Masami Phonix on April 02, 2009, 05:16:07 pm
So the standing is this. Unless I'm missing something:
Inaluct: Masami
Alexhans: Masami
Org: Pandar
Webaddict: Inaluct
Pand: Inaluct
Masami: Inaluct
Post by: Org on April 02, 2009, 05:34:24 pm
Post by: inaluct on April 02, 2009, 06:40:49 pm
Post by: webadict on April 02, 2009, 07:57:22 pm
Okay, so, why is he innocent? I missed it.Because he was checked by the Agent.
That's why. I don't know how you missed that... Unless you weren't trying to pay attention.
Post by: inaluct on April 02, 2009, 07:59:39 pm
Okay, I found it now. I was distracted by you attacking Pandarsenic.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 02, 2009, 08:01:44 pm
Since not even half the players have voted I've decided to do a ~12-14 hour extension for this day. I'll tally up the votes and start Night 3 tomorrow morning before I head into work. At that point we'll go with whatever we have.
Post by: Archangel on April 03, 2009, 01:58:56 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 03, 2009, 03:48:31 am
...
Can we vote Archangel? That's a Scummy statement.
Post by: Archangel on April 03, 2009, 04:13:33 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 03, 2009, 04:30:36 am
Post by: Cheeetar on April 03, 2009, 05:10:45 am
... Why?Boredom?
Post by: webadict on April 03, 2009, 09:55:08 am
I'm considering in game suicide.Don't do it! People care about you... and stuff... I'm not sure who... or why... but they do!
Post by: Mephansteras on April 03, 2009, 07:30:09 pm
I was going to go ahead and move to Night 3, but due to the complete lack of activity over the last day and the lack of real consensus (Webadict said vote for Inaluct unless he changed his vote, inaluct changes, no real activity after that...), I wonder if I shouldn't keep it open for the weekend.
Thoughts? I had intended for the 48 hour days to keep the game moving, but I'm not sure if that's being helpful or not. Since the point of this is for everyone to have fun I'm willing to change how I'm running things.
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 03, 2009, 07:31:34 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on April 03, 2009, 07:33:47 pm
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 03, 2009, 07:40:26 pm
Post by: inaluct on April 03, 2009, 07:49:14 pm
Post by: Archangel on April 03, 2009, 08:07:06 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on April 04, 2009, 11:27:56 pm
Post by: inaluct on April 04, 2009, 11:38:28 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on April 06, 2009, 11:32:54 am
At the end of the day there is a long, uncomfortable pause. You all sit, starting at one another, waiting for the day to end and dreading to act.
Finally, you can take no more and the votes are tallied. inaluct is grabbed and dragged outside. He screams in protest, fighting against you and protesting his innocence.
As the rifle is leveled on him he uses a final burst of strength and breaks free. As he runs, the crack of rifle shots echos through the square. He is hit several times and falls sprawling on the ground.
You investigate his body and discover nothing of interest. A quick search of his house reveals nothing as well. He was a simple townsperson.
You head home, tired and worried about what this night may bring.
Ok, sorry about the delay. I'll keep this game moving faster from now on. We can decide if 2 days is too short for the next game.
Night roles, PM your decisions! Night 3 goes until 5pm Tuesday night or whenever I have all the night roles' decisions.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 06, 2009, 07:54:30 pm
Morning comes, and as usual you all assemble in the town hall.
Org and Nuke are missing, so you travel to their houses. Nuke's house is undisturbed, and empty. You travel to Org's and find a grisly scene. Org lies on the ground near his bed, his body ripped to shreds. The body of a Doppelganger lies nearby, it's head blown clear off. The rest of the area shows similar signs of an explosion, and dark purple blood spatters everything. On the other side of the bed lies a dog, it's fur matted with dried blood.
Another doppelganger has died, and Org has done at home what he did not do in Afghanistan. He has given his life to save those of his fellow Americans.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 06, 2009, 08:00:06 pm
Meph, you have to post the battle.
Seriously.
You have to.
There's a freaking headless Doppelganger, something awesome clearly happened here.
Post by: webadict on April 06, 2009, 08:02:41 pm
Dang... I was stuck choosing between NUKE and inaluct yesterday.
Well... crap.
chaoticjosh
Pandarsenic
webadict
Alexhans
Kashyyk
Beacon80
Masami Phonix
Archangel
That leaves 8 people, 2 of whom are Dopps. And yet... I feel like I've won...
Archangel
Post by: inaluct on April 06, 2009, 08:03:50 pm
Thunder rumbles in the distance.
Post by: webadict on April 06, 2009, 08:04:59 pm
I told you people. Watch, when the end comes, you'll all see that I was right.Sorry, inaluct. My mistake, I swear. It was a tough call.
Thunder rumbles in the distance.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 06, 2009, 08:06:35 pm
D:
My vote continues to be as webadict's.
Post by: Masami Phonix on April 06, 2009, 08:44:00 pm
That being said, I feel fairly good at this point. With only two dopps left, we've got them on the run.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 06, 2009, 08:50:43 pm
Wait a minute, have we even lynched a single one successfully?
Post by: webadict on April 06, 2009, 08:52:41 pm
Yeah, they have little chance of getting a majority if we keep hitting them - or if they keep running into bait. >:3... No. Mostly on account of my inaccuracy at lynching. Well... let's get back to lynching... He said he wanted to die, anyhow.
Wait a minute, have we even lynched a single one successfully?
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 06, 2009, 08:54:12 pm
Post by: inaluct on April 06, 2009, 08:57:27 pm
Which means that I'm having sex with it.
Post by: webadict on April 06, 2009, 09:12:00 pm
I would be screaming frantically to lynch a certain someone, but I'm too busy being in the sweet embrace of death.I would either assume me or Pandarsenic. I feel your pain...
Which means that I'm having sex with it.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 06, 2009, 09:14:17 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on April 06, 2009, 10:18:00 pm
...
Meph, you have to post the battle.
Seriously.
You have to.
There's a freaking headless Doppelganger, something awesome clearly happened here.
I'm going to post all of the Night PMs I sent out throughout the game once this is all over. I figure I put a lot of work into them, everyone should get a chance to read them. ;)
Post by: Archangel on April 07, 2009, 02:10:40 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 07, 2009, 02:18:59 am
Post by: Archangel on April 07, 2009, 02:28:15 am
Post by: webadict on April 07, 2009, 03:02:41 am
I just sent Meph my suicide...Seriously?
*sigh*
Kashyyk then. Although, it's a little unfair, given that he can't defend himself...
Post by: Mephansteras on April 07, 2009, 10:09:55 am
Do we have any watchers who want to join?
The other option would be to have his suicide force the lynch for today.
Post by: Org on April 07, 2009, 10:14:21 am
Post by: Alexhans on April 07, 2009, 12:29:34 pm
Maybe bob_smith can replace since he is playing other mafias but not this one...
Post by: Mephansteras on April 07, 2009, 12:39:19 pm
Post by: NUKE9.13 on April 07, 2009, 12:50:36 pm
Om... nom... nom...
Which tells you jack squat.
See you at the end of the game.
Post by: webadict on April 07, 2009, 02:18:15 pm
that would be a bit farfetched... I still don't understand what happened to Org and Nuke. Nuke is a dopp but what's Org's role? How did he die?No, I don't think Org should be allowed to play. He already has his knowledge from his role in the game, and it would kinda lead to imbalance.
Maybe bob_smith can replace since he is playing other mafias but not this one...
However, a random person would be fine.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 07, 2009, 02:24:07 pm
Post by: Servant Corps on April 07, 2009, 02:37:41 pm
Post by: webadict on April 07, 2009, 02:46:24 pm
Or you can let me take over.I suppose either Cheeetar or SC would be fine.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 07, 2009, 02:49:36 pm
Or you can let me take over.
Sure, you can have it. I'll pm you the roll.
Post by: Servant Corps on April 07, 2009, 04:53:06 pm
Alright, I'm going to roleclaim right here, right now.
I'm the Townie. A regular old Townie. A Townie in a world with awesome CIA Agents, awesome Aliens, and not-so-awesome Doops. That was boring. Even if I survived, knowing that I am meaingnless compared to them was...well, terrible.
However, Webadict, I think you cured me of my insanity, by providing me a break by which I can reclaim some measure of dignity.
Masami Phonix is innocent guys. The Agent has already checked him.
If you truly want to find a doppelganger, and I'm sure some of you do, lynch Pandarsenic.
I promise you, with his death, you'll find a Doppelganger's corpse.
You then retracted your vote for Pandarsenic and voted for inaluct, primarly to get him to unvote. He did unvote.
And yet he still got lynched.
webadict, your allegations may be valid. Pandarsenic is in fact a Dopp. By your own wording, you did not wish to lynch a Dopp. I am very worried that you lynched inaluct in the very hope that you would create a bandwagon and get him murdered, even if he did give in and stop voting for Misama.
Webadict, you say you are the representaive the Agent. That may be true. But the only way we can truly confirm that is if you turn out to be a pro-Human role such as another Townie.
Pandarsenic is suspicious. But if he dies, we would be unable to tell if you are working for the Agent.
If you die, we can tell if you are working for the Agent. But your behavior seems scummy.
Vote webadict.
Post by: webadict on April 07, 2009, 05:07:52 pm
Blah blah blah.True, true. I plan to lynch Pandarsenic last of all. Because I feel he's been a Dopp the entire time. More precisely, the Leader.
Vote webadict.
But why do I have to lynch him now? He can't figure out any of the power roles, because I simply won't tell him, nor will anyone else. All he's going to do is get his entire team killed if he is a Dopp. I mean, what have I got to gain from lynching him now? I have more time than he does. And if he's not a Dopp, then I'm fine (Though I'm pretty sure he is.)
Point is: He's only going to try and buy time. Also, I don't see how this makes me the bad guy. If you want, you should try to lynch Pandarsenic. He only votes with me in order to stay alive, whether or not he's a Dopp.
Also, if Kashyyk turns out to be a Dopp... This vote against me will seem suspicious. I'd rather not try to lynch another townie.
Also, the sheer number of counters to my claim that the Agent contacted me seems to be zero. Maybe I actually was?
Also, if I were a Dopp, do you think I'd be killing people I knew to be War Vets?
Have you read my post? Lulz.THANK YOU! You deserve a high five.This is for the safety of the town, Doctor, and Agent: Are you the War Vet and will you trust me?Also, I just fucked myself, but I might kill a doppleganger.
They are saying:CHANGE IT! FUCK! CHANGE IT!
Would I really bother trying to kill Org? Puh-lease. It was my idea to make Org cry Doctor to begin with!
Anyone else want to blame me again?
Post by: Org on April 07, 2009, 05:24:30 pm
Post by: Servant Corps on April 07, 2009, 05:40:04 pm
Quote
blah blah blah
Why keep Panda alive? Isn't it better to lynch people you suspect to be Dopp, increasing the number of non-Dopps that the Dopps need to kill?
Right now, there are 2 Dopps. This means if there are 4 people, 2 Dopps and 2 Non-Dopps, Dopps win. We found no Survivor Alien yet, especially since Beacon08 withdrawn his roleclaim of Survivor Alien, meaning that if the Suvivor Alien is there, all the Dopps need is 5 people, so that the Survivor Alien can throw the game.
We have 8 people. If we kill a non-Dopp, and they kill a non-Dopp, we now have 6 people. If we lynch a non-Dopp, and they lynch a non-Dopp, there are now 4 people. Dopps win. If on Day 5, there is a Suvivor Alien, so the game can be thrown.
If Panda is Scum, she needs to die, so as to make sure only one Dopp is alive. Then the last remaining Dopp has to bring the amount of people down to 2 people, giving us an extra day of lynches and kills to find him.
The game isn't won at all.
Secondly, Kasyykk. He hasn't posted. But in my experience, lynching inactive people just lead to dead Townies. A random lynch in the shot in the dark will likely to the Dopps being more powerful, and make you more suspicious. 1 Dopp was active, Soilforge, and another Dopp, Nuke, was inactive.
And there is one good reason why nobody wants to roleclaim as the Agent. Because if he does, he gets eaten if he does not get protected, or lynched by the Dopps. It's the same reason this 'Agent' is talking via you, in order to not get exposed. That's another good reason, if you somehow die, the Agent still remains alive.
Also, the "pose as a Doctor and take out a War Vet" is such an old trick in the book I'm shocked that the Dopps even fell for it to begin with. The quoted PMs seem very interesting though, but they can be fabricated.
That being said, I admit the evidence against you does seem a little flimsy. If you really worked with Org, then if you are Dopp, then you had to have manuevered your own man into killing Nuke to lower suspicion and make the game artifically longer.
For the good of the Town, I'm going to unvote you Webadict, and just give you an FoS. The next day will be different, of course...
Instead, Pandarsenic has to die.
Post by: Org on April 07, 2009, 05:44:25 pm
The ones of me talking to Webadict?Quoteblah blah blah
Why keep Panda alive? Isn't it better to lynch people you suspect to be Dopp, increasing the number of non-Dopps that the Dopps need to kill?
Right now, there are 2 Dopps. This means if there are 4 people, 2 Dopps and 2 Non-Dopps, Dopps win. We found no Survivor Alien yet, especially since Beacon08 withdrawn his roleclaim of Survivor Alien, meaning that if the Suvivor Alien is there, all the Dopps need is 5 people, so that the Survivor Alien can throw the game.
We have 8 people. If we kill a non-Dopp, and they kill a non-Dopp, we now have 6 people. If we lynch a non-Dopp, and they lynch a non-Dopp, there are now 4 people. Dopps win. If on Day 5, there is a Suvivor Alien, so the game can be thrown.
If Panda is Scum, she needs to die, so as to make sure only one Dopp is alive. Then the last remaining Dopp has to bring the amount of people down to 2 people, giving us an extra day of lynches and kills to find him.
The game isn't won at all.
Secondly, Kasyykk. He hasn't posted. But in my experience, lynching inactive people just lead to dead Townies. A random lynch in the shot in the dark will likely to the Dopps being more powerful, and make you more suspicious. 1 Dopp was active, Soilforge, and another Dopp, Nuke, was inactive.
And there is one good reason why nobody wants to roleclaim as the Agent. Because if he does, he gets eaten if he does not get protected, or lynched by the Dopps. It's the same reason this 'Agent' is talking via you, in order to not get exposed. That's another good reason, if you somehow die, the Agent still remains alive.
Also, the "pose as a Doctor and take out a War Vet" is such an old trick in the book I'm shocked that the Dopps even fell for it to begin with. The quoted PMs seem very interesting though, but they can be fabricated.
That being said, I admit the evidence against you does seem a little flimsy. If you really worked with Org, then if you are Dopp, then you had to have manuevered your own man into killing Nuke to lower suspicion and make the game artifically longer.
For the good of the Town, I'm going to unvote you Webadict, and just give you an FoS. The next day will be different, of course...
Instead, Pandarsenic has to die.
Nope. I sent those.
Not fabricated
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 07, 2009, 05:50:23 pm
I vote Servant Corps until he:
1) Restarts Angolan Independence War and any other games he's abandoned
2) Learns I'm male
Post by: Mephansteras on April 07, 2009, 05:59:15 pm
I really should add in a Medium role to let the dead people have a way to vent...
Oh, and since I haven't said yet, Day 4 ends Wednesday at ~5pm Pacific Time.
Post by: Org on April 07, 2009, 06:03:16 pm
Sorry.
Wasnt sure if it was really important.
My bad.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 07, 2009, 06:11:14 pm
Post by: webadict on April 07, 2009, 06:12:51 pm
...Most people like to color their votes.
I vote Servant Corps until he:
1) Restarts Angolan Independence War and any other games he's abandoned
2) Learns I'm male
Also, I'm afraid I can't let you do that, Pandarsenic. SC stays alive, because he's more helpful than thou.
Generally speaking, the dead should err on the side of silence.Quite. I'll be free to discuss tactics and the like if anyone cares at the end of the game. Now is not the time for it.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 07, 2009, 06:33:23 pm
Post by: webadict on April 07, 2009, 07:19:19 pm
webadict, that's because votes are in red and that wasn't.Psh... I do what I want.
Post by: Servant Corps on April 07, 2009, 07:37:42 pm
Generally speaking, the dead should err on the side of silence.
You should have super-mod-killed him or something.
Anyway, webadict, I was an idiot. Blame the pills. I withdraw the FOS. Wish I could do a Finger of Trust.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 07, 2009, 11:47:19 pm
Seriously?
Could you get the vote off of me already since my vote is tied to yours?
Post by: webadict on April 08, 2009, 12:05:27 am
Post by: Mephansteras on April 08, 2009, 02:21:18 pm
Post by: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 02:28:33 pm
Now I understand the genius behind Org's plan... :) Cheers Org. I was trying to protect you if you recall but you didn't really need protection...
I trusted web all along... But now I'm starting to doubt him and his weird association with Pandarsenic.
Quote from: Servant Corps
Also, the "pose as a Doctor and take out a War Vet" is such an old trick in the book I'm shocked that the Dopps even fell for it to begin with. The quoted PMs seem very interesting though, but they can be fabricated.well... I would've bought it. I actually did buy it and tried to protect him.
dude... this sucks wether it's useful for town or not... Cheating is not the way I want to win. I don't find it funny if I win like that. Dead people shut up or be banned from future mafias >:(The ones of me talking to Webadict?Quoteblah blah blah
Why keep Panda alive? Isn't it better to lynch people you suspect to be Dopp, increasing the number of non-Dopps that the Dopps need to kill?
Right now, there are 2 Dopps. This means if there are 4 people, 2 Dopps and 2 Non-Dopps, Dopps win. We found no Survivor Alien yet, especially since Beacon08 withdrawn his roleclaim of Survivor Alien, meaning that if the Suvivor Alien is there, all the Dopps need is 5 people, so that the Survivor Alien can throw the game.
We have 8 people. If we kill a non-Dopp, and they kill a non-Dopp, we now have 6 people. If we lynch a non-Dopp, and they lynch a non-Dopp, there are now 4 people. Dopps win. If on Day 5, there is a Suvivor Alien, so the game can be thrown.
If Panda is Scum, she needs to die, so as to make sure only one Dopp is alive. Then the last remaining Dopp has to bring the amount of people down to 2 people, giving us an extra day of lynches and kills to find him.
The game isn't won at all.
Secondly, Kasyykk. He hasn't posted. But in my experience, lynching inactive people just lead to dead Townies. A random lynch in the shot in the dark will likely to the Dopps being more powerful, and make you more suspicious. 1 Dopp was active, Soilforge, and another Dopp, Nuke, was inactive.
And there is one good reason why nobody wants to roleclaim as the Agent. Because if he does, he gets eaten if he does not get protected, or lynched by the Dopps. It's the same reason this 'Agent' is talking via you, in order to not get exposed. That's another good reason, if you somehow die, the Agent still remains alive.
Also, the "pose as a Doctor and take out a War Vet" is such an old trick in the book I'm shocked that the Dopps even fell for it to begin with. The quoted PMs seem very interesting though, but they can be fabricated.
That being said, I admit the evidence against you does seem a little flimsy. If you really worked with Org, then if you are Dopp, then you had to have manuevered your own man into killing Nuke to lower suspicion and make the game artifically longer.
For the good of the Town, I'm going to unvote you Webadict, and just give you an FoS. The next day will be different, of course...
Instead, Pandarsenic has to die.
Nope. I sent those.
Not fabricated
I suppose I could... Fine... Let's kill Kashyyk then...
I don't get this... I really don't...
Why kashyyk? inactivity?
Post by: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 02:29:23 pm
Post by: inaluct on April 08, 2009, 02:32:55 pm
His name isn't even obviously feminine.
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 08, 2009, 02:36:01 pm
Hi, I'm Brook's brother Owen, and he invited me so I'm in too, this sounds like fun.
It's a simple mistake, thinking Owen is a female name.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 08, 2009, 02:38:47 pm
Post by: Masami Phonix on April 08, 2009, 04:00:26 pm
Post by: webadict on April 08, 2009, 05:40:33 pm
List of alive players please!! I still don't recall how masami was town... you checked her webadict?Masami is fine. Have you been talking to Pandarsenic?
Post by: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 05:47:23 pm
no... but you keep saying you have the info of the agent or something like that... I have to reread because I recall you saying you knew that masami was town.List of alive players please!! I still don't recall how masami was town... you checked her webadict?Masami is fine. Have you been talking to Pandarsenic?
Post by: webadict on April 08, 2009, 05:58:16 pm
But you asked if I checked Masami. Like I was the Agent. I never told anyone but Pandarsenic that...no... but you keep saying you have the info of the agent or something like that... I have to reread because I recall you saying you knew that masami was town.List of alive players please!! I still don't recall how masami was town... you checked her webadict?Masami is fine. Have you been talking to Pandarsenic?
Post by: Org on April 08, 2009, 06:02:00 pm
Post by: Servant Corps on April 08, 2009, 06:03:47 pm
Post by: webadict on April 08, 2009, 06:07:52 pm
Post by: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 06:11:29 pm
Alexhans, I request you to vote Panadarsenic. Pandarsenic seems much more scummy than an inactive person who likely doesn't even know this thread exist. We lynched Karlito, an inactive. What happened? We found out he was a Townie. That's one less meatshield the Town could have had.I agree with you... I don't like policy lynches to lurkers... when's the deadline? I'm willing to vote Pandarsenic... I'm just trying to tie some loose ends in playstyle I don't yet understand...
Post by: Alexhans on April 08, 2009, 06:12:07 pm
Vote Pandar.
meanwhile Ill try to re-read.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 08, 2009, 06:12:17 pm
an inactive person who likely doesn't even know this thread exist.
For reference, Kashyyk said he'd be without internet access for a week.
And, yes Org, I'll be posting all of the Night role PMs that I send out once the game is over.
Deadline in in roughly 1 hour, depending on when I get a chance to wrap things up (based on how work goes)
Post by: Servant Corps on April 08, 2009, 06:25:44 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on April 08, 2009, 07:28:22 pm
Servant Corps words go unheeded, and as the day ends the votes tally against Kashyyk. He is woken from his drunken stupor and dragged outside. He seems almost unable to comprehend what is about to happen. A shot to the head quickly ends his confusion.
His body stays as it was, and a search of his body and home reveal that he was nothing more then another innocent victim of this madness.
You look around in horror at one another. This bodes ill for you, as your only salvation so far has been the heroic sacrifices of the war veterans. Can you hope to find and kill these monsters in time? Or will this town fall to their predations?
That's that. Sorry Kashyyk, I'd rather you didn't get lynched while unable to defend yourself but that's not really under my control.
Locking the thread for Night 4 actions. Night roles, send me your PMs!
Post by: Mephansteras on April 09, 2009, 07:55:57 pm
The day dawns dark and gloomy, threatening rain. In contrast to the weather, though, you find everyone still alive and at the town hall the next day. You don't know what happened last night, but obviously the monsters failed to eat anybody.
Since weekends are pretty much dead, Day 5 will stretch through the weekend to Monday at 5pm Pacific or until everyone has voted. Whichever comes first.
Post by: Servant Corps on April 09, 2009, 08:21:29 pm
Either way, the vote on Kasyyk was a wash. Just as I thought it would be. Vote on Pandarsenic.
Post by: webadict on April 09, 2009, 09:46:40 pm
Doc's got so much protection, they ain't put a scratch on nobody.
Also, you're right. We might as well vote Pandarsenic, now.
Also, next round belongs to ye, Alexhans!
EDIT: Town has won.
Post by: Servant Corps on April 09, 2009, 09:48:50 pm
Post by: webadict on April 09, 2009, 09:50:58 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 10, 2009, 06:33:35 am
Post by: webadict on April 10, 2009, 11:05:41 am
Except, y'know, webadict, you've caused us to kill how many innocent townies now?Yeah, that has been a problem. There wasn't much that could've been done about that. All that could be done was guess. Sorry folks that died. I promise you, however, that the Town has won. Especially if we lynch the third Dopp today, due to the Town base that's been set up.
There isn't any chance right now, lest ye think you've infiltrated our base, which is also impossible.
Although, I do feel bad about getting all these innocents killed...
Post by: Masami Phonix on April 10, 2009, 01:20:47 pm
Post by: Alexhans on April 10, 2009, 05:08:33 pm
And now he is trying to lynch me??? Behind what reason...
I'm sorry people but I can't leave this be any longer. Maybe I'm blind but Web is blinder.
Vote Webadict.
Post by: Servant Corps on April 10, 2009, 05:10:00 pm
Post by: Alexhans on April 10, 2009, 05:20:19 pm
Also, next round belongs to ye, Alexhans!
Post by: Alexhans on April 10, 2009, 05:23:04 pm
The only worthy thing I find is that alleged plan with Org (war vet) to make dopps fall... when I tried to save Org from it I told Web (because I trusted him) and Org... Org pmd me telling me that he had a plan so I knew he musn't be a doc or something... And didn't press the issue further. Web then claimed it was his plan all along wich I now find it a probable lie.
Post by: Servant Corps on April 10, 2009, 07:29:10 pm
I don't like webadict's style of lynching a bunch of inactive townies, but what can you do? He should have attempted to get rid of Pandarsenic first, rather than doing what he did. But I'm blaming this on incompetence and just the luck of the draw. After all, the less Dopps they are, the more likely you are of lynching non-Dopps.
It could be possible that the Agent is purposely wanting to murder as many people as possible, to save time in checking. Say, the Agent checks Player 1 and find that he is TOWNIE. He then calls for Player 2 to be lynched. Player 2 get lynched, and is also proven to be Townie. This saves the Agent the time and effort in checking Player 2, allowing for the Agent to move down the list and check Player 3. And then lynch Player 4, etc.
That is what I would do, after all. If I was the Agent, of course.
Post by: Archangel on April 10, 2009, 08:00:29 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 10, 2009, 08:31:07 pm
Post by: webadict on April 10, 2009, 10:41:50 pm
If I don't recall wrong... He pushed all the lynches claiming he had a contact to the agent... All flipped town... Isn't that odd?Bwahahahaha! A real knee-slapper.
The only worthy thing I find is that alleged plan with Org (war vet) to make dopps fall... when I tried to save Org from it I told Web (because I trusted him) and Org... Org pmd me telling me that he had a plan so I knew he musn't be a doc or something... And didn't press the issue further. Web then claimed it was his plan all along wich I now find it a probable lie.
Everyone who truly believes I'm a Dopp, vote for me. I've got plenty of reasons why I'm NOT a Dopp.
True, I did receive a pm from you, but we'll see what happens this next round.
You Dopps just don't get it. Even if Pandarsenic isn't the leader, then Town wins.
If Pandarsenic is the leader, then Town also wins.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 10, 2009, 10:45:17 pm
Post by: webadict on April 10, 2009, 11:22:50 pm
How aren't you a Dopp, then? Enlighten us.It's simple.
I know the Doctor. I'd've killed him by now, don't you think?
Also, I would've avoided killing Org, and instead tried to lynch him for lying.
Also, there's no need for explanations: All those who believe me are innocent.
Also, it's already decided how this game will be played out.
Pandarsenic, Dopp Leader, is lynched tonight.
I'm only 89% sure that Alexhans is the Dopp conspirator, but he won't be able to win.
In fact, I'm fairly sure I know who'll die tonight.
Post by: webadict on April 10, 2009, 11:56:04 pm
He made two slip-ups: One, he contacted me when Org claimed Doctor. At first, I thought nothing harmful of this. I mean, it was innocent. But, why me? That's stupid. Why not Org? What made him think Org was listening to me? In fact, Org refused to listen to me for a while, until I convinced him that I was obviously Town...
Two, he said I checked Masami, as if I were the Agent. I only told this to Pandarsenic, who is the Dopp leader (I've known this since... Day 2? Completely obvious. Next time be more discreet.)
Of course, they never bothered to attack me, because I was thought to be the Agent. It's so obvious. In fact, it allowed me to save another person tonight. And it doesn't matter who you guys attack tonight. Attack me, for all I care. We win. Why? There's already somebody to take my place. In fact, you guys will have no idea who is actually protected, will you?
You've managed to hit every War Vet in the game. Thumbs up, guys! You even hit the fake Doctor Org pretended to be, and he's the worst liar I've ever seen (Honestly Org, you should tell truths the way you tell lies. I'd be thrown off so much.)
In fact, you Dopps should've lynched me Day 1. I'm fairly certain we would be at a far worse situation than we are now. I can't believe you guys didn't try to use that against me.
You guys might as well know that I'm the Doctor. Wasn't it obvious? I mean, what with all the obviousness? Masami's your Agent. Pretty trustworthy, actually. He managed to help find Org, and use that against you guys, as well as form the best Town base I've ever seen.
I can't believe you guys never attacked me! Man, I would've gone for me first... Well, have fun slaughtering me tonight.
Post by: Archangel on April 10, 2009, 11:59:37 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 11, 2009, 12:18:32 am
Our loss is a result of the most bullshit bad luck ever.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
tl;dr: Running into a War Veteran through pure luck when you got two War Veterans and the inexplicable processing of the Dopps>Solifuge>webadict death chain led to our defeat
Post by: inaluct on April 11, 2009, 12:19:34 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 11, 2009, 12:20:11 am
This game is over.
I think I may sit out Paranormal 3....
Post by: inaluct on April 11, 2009, 12:32:35 am
1. Make it look like he didn't really know what was going on that well, and therefore couldn't be scheming.
2. Get webadict's trust.
3. Associate himself with webadict.
If you were a doppelganger, you would want to hide the fact that you were paying close attention, because the mafia roles nearly always pay close attention. It's like feigning ignorance to look nonthreatening. I've done it, and I've noticed other people do it. You would want webadict's trust for obvious reasons. And you would want to be associated with him in case either of you died. If you were found to be a doppelganger, it would cast suspicion on him. If he was found innocent, it might help exonerate you.
Other thing:
I would be screaming frantically to lynch a certain someone, but I'm too busy being in the sweet embrace of death.
Which means that I'm having sex with it.
I would either assume me or Pandarsenic. I feel your pain...
I'm trying too hard not to visualize his metaphor to process any content his words have.Pandar dodged the content of my post, instead of speculating on who I might be talking about. I suspect that he might have subconsciously felt as though he might accidentally say something that could make him look suspicious, especially after webadict said that he was one of the people who I might be talking about.
If it turns out that I'm totally wrong in my suspicions, I promise to say "WHAT A TWIST"
Anyway, how come my team usually wins, but I usually die? D:
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 11, 2009, 12:40:54 am
That, and trying to push a lynch on webadict then would've been a bit suspicious.
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 11, 2009, 12:55:45 am
Hold up, I want everything to be perfect, let me just put on my sunglasses and goatee.
(http://cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/41/98/sandler-sunglasses.120.jpg)
I'm the real agent. The only reason you lie defeated right now, is because of me. I may have posted only a few times, but I controlled the outcome of this game.
I'm sorry Pandar and Alexhans, but you didn't lose because you were unlucky, you lost because you went against me. It was my planning that won the first Paranormal Mafia for the Dopps, and it was my planning that won it for the town in the second.
Of course, my planning would have been worth nothing without WA, who's a strategist and an intellectual, a great partner to have, and I couldn't have done it without him. Coincidentally, he was also my partner in the first Paranormal Mafia.
I also want to thank the doctor, you know who you are. I gave him the explicit order to always protect me every night, which he did dutifully. He protected my life, not once, but TWICE throughout the game. Once when I investigated a War Vet by accident, and again when the dopps targeted me last night. Thank you very much, you provided the backbone to the town base.
Of course, I want to thank the other members of the town base, you were all a great help. I won't name names, but feel free to reveal yourselves and bask in the glow of victory.
Now, I'll cast my first real vote of the game, Pandarsenic.
No hard feelings.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 11, 2009, 12:58:10 am
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 11, 2009, 01:02:16 am
I'd just like to repeat, the course of this game would've been very different had webadict died in the night as he should have.
Actually, no it wouldn't have. Did you think I didn't have back-up plans?
It's not like that sole event was the game deciding action.
Post by: inaluct on April 11, 2009, 01:05:38 am
Post by: Archangel on April 11, 2009, 01:06:10 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 11, 2009, 01:11:52 am
inaluct: Seriously, what WAS up with him?
Post by: inaluct on April 11, 2009, 01:15:35 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 11, 2009, 01:17:36 am
To tell the truth, I think the only person here who did anything impressive at all was Org. It was masterful.
E: To be more specific than just quoting inaluct, Org is the only player in this game who earned a kill. We killed only Dopps and the Town killed only Innocents....
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 11, 2009, 01:25:23 am
WA didn't sacrifice himself though, instead this web of lies spanning the PM network formed, and the town base got strong.
If you'd simply killed WA, then you might have had a better chance, as the town base would have suffered a large hit in it's infancy.
Also, you're forgetting Zaithemaster, he got a kill too.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 11, 2009, 01:26:31 am
Post by: Servant Corps on April 11, 2009, 01:57:24 am
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inaluct: Seriously, what WAS up with him?
Quite simply, I speculate he was the Survivor Alien, who said he was the Survivor Alien in the hope of surviving, and then backtracked on it in the hope of not being lynched by a town who hate Survivor Aliens with a vengence. Beacon would therefore would win this game, alongside the Town.
And personally, I would rule that webadict would die, instead of letting Soilfouge/the Dopp tangle it out.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 11, 2009, 02:01:17 am
Since we obviously have one night before we're *officially* dead, we're going to assume the doc keeps guarding you and dedicate it to wiping out Beacon80, just 'cause. :P
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 11, 2009, 02:23:33 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 11, 2009, 02:27:00 am
There is no more day.
Game over.
We can't possibly win.
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 11, 2009, 02:29:11 am
You should've stuck to your guns though, it would have been more dignified than giving up.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 11, 2009, 02:33:57 am
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 11, 2009, 02:43:40 am
He had evidence, but he did alot of crap without telling me.
His conversation with you? He waited a long time before telling me.
Org claiming doctor? He was working behind the scenes with him, and never told me anything about it. I almost enacted a foolproof plan to get him lynched, thinking he was a dopp!
Also there was the purported PM conversation with Alexhans. He never told me about it, period. I just found out when he brought it up in the thread.
He really needs to work on that.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 11, 2009, 02:45:34 am
Which is why, as I said, if Solifuge had killed him successfully and/or we hadn't thought he had a doctor covering him, this would've gone differently. :3
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 11, 2009, 02:53:36 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 11, 2009, 03:01:06 am
It's gonna be boring, folks...
I should sleep now actually, I depart in 11 hours.
Post by: webadict on April 11, 2009, 09:17:00 am
webadict likes to be the essential link in the chain.Quite. I actually knew that Mephansteras had put lots of evidence that I was not being protected, so I went ahead and pmed Pandarsenic that I was being protected by Org and that the incredible plan of him claiming doctor in the same way he always lies seemed to have thrown off Pandarsenic.
Which is why, as I said, if Solifuge had killed him successfully and/or we hadn't thought he had a doctor covering him, this would've gone differently. :3
In fact, I think they would've figured it all out had I simply said nothing, which I was planning to do when I figured Pandarsenic was the leader.
To tell you the truth Pandar, I checked you last night, and it turned up human, of course. The only evidence that you were the dopp leader was WA's strong suspicions.Also, it was my fault for the Org thing, because I thought I had mentioned it. And the Alexhans thing wasn't that big to me... I thought it was just something simple, really, and never thought about it. But I realized it essentially made him guilty.
He had evidence, but he did alot of crap without telling me.
His conversation with you? He waited a long time before telling me.
Org claiming doctor? He was working behind the scenes with him, and never told me anything about it. I almost enacted a foolproof plan to get him lynched, thinking he was a dopp!
Also there was the purported PM conversation with Alexhans. He never told me about it, period. I just found out when he brought it up in the thread.
He really needs to work on that.
I feel better knowing that Pandarsenic was the leader. I was right about it the WHOLE TIME! Even before CJ checked you. I knew it. Even when I wanted yu to vote with me, I simply wanted to find that other Dopp.
To tell the truth, I think the only person here who did anything impressive at all was Org. It was masterful.Technically, I told him to do that. He almost got himself lynched saying, "I have a role, but I won't tell you what he was."
It wouldn't've worked had I not known about it, because josh wanted to lynched him.
My original plan was for WA to intentionally sacrifice himself so that I could get the identity of the doctor, then I'd rough it out from there.I honestly didn't think I'd make it this far. I thought I'd be killed by the doctor thing.
WA didn't sacrifice himself though, instead this web of lies spanning the PM network formed, and the town base got strong.
If you'd simply killed WA, then you might have had a better chance, as the town base would have suffered a large hit in it's infancy.
Also, you're forgetting Zaithemaster, he got a kill too.
Also, when Pandarsenic switched his vote to me when I said Alexhans, I figured it meant I'd found the Dopp.
I play this game too chaotically for anyone's good. Plus, I play in a fashion where you have to guess whether I'm guessing, lying, making things up or telling the truth. Sometimes I just talk.
Post by: Zai on April 11, 2009, 10:36:12 am
I tried to make my role as obvious as possible without outright saying it.
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"On an uprelated note, I don't thing my heart'll be a pumpin' for much longer. If it gives during the night, I don't want nobody wastin' their volumable time tryin' to save me or not'in'! Y'hear? All righty then. Just wanted to get that off me chest."
The "tryin' to save me" bit was directed at the doc, just in case they wanted to keep me from being a night kill. The "not'in'" was directed at the agent, as I didn't want him to waste his "volumable time" (a waste of a role check and a core role) on me, either. This statement was made less suspicious (and thus why it didn't dissuade the Dopps from killing me) by the fact that we were all in character at the time. If we had just been talking regularly, it probably would have been completely obvious as to what I was saying, and the dopps wouldn't have attacked me.
It should not have been "luck" as several people claimed after I died if the agent and doc were actually paying close attention to what people said, as they should.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 11, 2009, 10:40:26 am
The whole Exterminator/Dopp clash was pretty interesting. I wasn't sure how that would all effect things. To be fair, though, that exact scenario was described in the rules as having a random outcome based on who won the toss to go first. So far it's sounding like people would like things to be a bit more predetermined, but please feel free to go vote (http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=33772.0) on the issue over in the rules thread.
My apologies for anything rules-wise that people felt reduced their fun in the game. This is only my second time running a mafia game, and there is are lot of conflicting ideas out there on how to do things. Although I've been reading through the mafiascum.net forums some more recently to get at least a general consensus on how people tend to handle things.
I'll probably post all of the Night role PMs for this game on Monday since I forgot to send a copy of my log to myself when I left work yesterday.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 11, 2009, 11:38:24 am
Zaithemaster, I didn't even remember you'd made that post. I selected you night one by looking at the list of players and selecting one I couldn't remember being especially active.
Post by: NUKE9.13 on April 11, 2009, 01:04:33 pm
I'll certainly join the next one.
Meph: Just write up an epic last stand for the dopps.
Post by: Servant Corps on April 11, 2009, 01:38:49 pm
Post by: Solifuge on April 11, 2009, 01:59:26 pm
I really enjoyed the game as the Exterminator. I'm kicking myself that I didn't act sooner on my suspicion against Pandarsenic, and additionally wish I hadn't defended Webadict from the first-night lynch. I was hoping to kill investigators and cause disarray in the town during the day, and follow that with some lone Dopple-sleuthing, until I was the only threat remaining. I hoped to earn the town's trust, but secretly be working to take out perceptive players at night, and lead folks in the hunt for the "Exterminator" once the dopples were gone.
Post by: Alexhans on April 11, 2009, 02:30:12 pm
Congrats on web's play... Not so much to josh... Web was the real player here. And I trusted my Leader too much ;)
But it was fun anyway. It'll give me more experience for the future. I also disagree with our kill preventing the SK from killing but it's a minor point.
And pandar is right... You were lucky! The good move was Web being a doc and Org being a war vet.
Can you at least kill my leader and cage me in a zoo? I don't want to die... :( I could make the kids laugh...
Some Pm's for you to have fun...
here I found out that Org was probably not a dopp... Wich I forgot later when Pandar told me he knew Org was doc. I sent a pm somewhere to nuke and pandar telling them that Org might be a war vet but we all forgot.Try to pretend you were fishing for roles or something... I'm making it look like if i were the doc or I knew who the doc is.Not dopple. I gotta plan.
So wrong we were... :( played by web...:o Glad it wasn't me.Holy shit, guys, we're in the clear.
Webadict thinks I'm the surgeon and the Vet is dead.
Have you claimed to him that you are?
If you have then SUPERIOR VICTORY.
We can get the cop- but do we want to- yes we do-but we can't, because webadict will be like, major suspicion.
How can we steer the town? How do we want to steer the town?
Alex: You're being pretty suspicious. Panda may have to vote for you to maintain credibility.
Also, this was a bad night for the town. They know nothing and their chances of killing one of us has dropped pretty low.
Correction: Kill webadict, so he can't report that the Agent died just after contacting me. Then kill the agent.Panda you need more sleep, I can't understand you.he is saying that we should find the agent via webadict. kill the agent . Then kill webadict. And no one will know that he was contactedd by pandar... therefore he will be clear of lynching suspicion.
1: Should I talk to someone?
1A: If so who?
1AA: What should I talk about?
2: What should alexhans do?
I'm not sure what to make of Org yet. Ill try to keep digging. Maybe he isnt the doc after all but an army vet. Consider that. It would be a great play. Unless a town PR targetted him wich would fuck everything up.
Nuke... I advise you to blend in. Dont pull any stunt. Its enough with Pandar's actions. And now mine's. We need a failsafe.
Nuke, staying present and mid-activity is probably best, like Alexhans said.
Just for reference, webadict is suspicious of Nuke.Ok... So... Pandar is getting a lot of heat.Ah, another day won by the magic of inactivity.
We should kill Org (he is the doc right?) and then proceed to kill webadict.
Today it is probable that one of us will be lynched. Don't dare move to defend a partner. Keep your distance. If you need to claim, think it over and analize the roles.
*Mephansteras sighs*
Anyway.
I agree, kill org. I'll do it. Gotta wash that taste of alien out of my mouth.
Barbecue in the woods?
And, if push should indeed come to shove, and we have to lose a member to democratic murder, I am willing to die for the greater good. However, I, in a totally neutral way, think that alexhans would be a better target. I find some of his/your posts suspicious. But that may be because of my added knowledge... I don't know, whatever. It would be nice if we could start a bandwagon against one of us... that is a stupid thing for the mafia to do, and therefore a smart move.
I therefore suggest Nuke for Org because webadict seems not to suspect Alexhans.
dude... we're probably screwed.
Zaithemaster Killed night 1. War vet.
NUKE9.13 Killed night 2. Dopp.
Cheeetar lynched day 1. Alien that contacts goverment.
Katsuun Killed night 1. Dopp.
Org dead night 3. War Vet
Kashyyk lynched day 4.
Karlito lynched day 2.
inaluct lynched day 3.
Solifuge Exterminator Alien killed night 2
Alive(7):
webadict Agent
Masami Phonix
Arch/Servant Corps
Beacon80
Alexhans
Pandarsenic
chaoticjosh
Web believes Masami is town. Thinks SC is town too because the mod gave the hint when he would say it would unbalance things. Beacon looks town to web I think. Chaotic I don't know but he hasn't attracted attention to him. You are scummy in his eyes. And that only leaves me. He WILL check me tonight. I'm sure. So I'll go and kill Chaoticjosh that may be the Doc. Other choice can be masami but I'll go with Josh...
What do you think?
PS: We deserve to lose anyway. We have sucked all along. We got the war vet night 1. killed the alien exterminator who was about to solve out problem. Fell in to the war vet's trap even though I had suspected it all along... I was blinded by the certainty in wich you said Org was a doc and didn't remember my suspicions. Finally I commited a blunder when I asked web if he had checked masami... I assumed that web had claimed.... We're pretty dead but let's die honourably. Take as many sonsabitches as we possibly can.
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 11, 2009, 02:44:57 pm
Beacon80 is the doctor, there is no third alien, as far as I know. His roleclaim as alien was supposed to trick the dopps into never attacking him, as he'd be a potential ally in the future.
Also, Masami is the third war vet. I was surprised too.
Post by: inaluct on April 11, 2009, 02:46:51 pm
I would have included webadict, but he got too many townspeople lynched, including me.
Post by: Alexhans on April 11, 2009, 02:48:34 pm
That's more reasonable with my mafia knowledge. The doc tries to stay in the dark.
@Josh: How did you get in contact with the doc?
3 WAR VETS!!!! That's unfair!!!! How are we supposed to stay alive with so many chances of hitting one...
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 11, 2009, 02:51:38 pm
I totally forgot about beacon... I haven't been to much present in this game and for some reason thought he was already dead.
That's more reasonable with my mafia knowledge. The doc tries to stay in the dark.
@Josh: How did you get in contact with the doc?
3 WAR VETS!!!! That's unfair!!!! How are we supposed to stay alive with so many chances of hitting one...
How I got into contact with the doc? Second day, when I pulled my "Get WA to act as my emissary" plan, the doc contacted him, I got him to contact me, boom, protection.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 11, 2009, 03:16:58 pm
While I'm tweaking the algorithm around anyway I think I'll make it so that three can't happen at all anymore.
Post by: Org on April 11, 2009, 03:20:30 pm
Post by: Masami Phonix on April 11, 2009, 05:55:06 pm
I had a lot of fun.
I will admit that there was a considerable luck factor in our win. I was also a bit disappointed that I never got offed.
Then again, my newbie nature nearly got me lynched before I could take out anybody. I'll be better about it in the next game.
I might try hosting a pirate Mafia too, if anybody is interested.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 11, 2009, 08:46:39 pm
If we lost one Dopp and the Exterminator died, the Dopps would've lost immediately and irrevocably unless a Vet got lynched.
Post by: Zai on April 11, 2009, 08:49:30 pm
I might try hosting a pirate Mafia too, if anybody is interested.
Do it. Any and all mafias are welcome. You may want to wait until after you've played another game to do it, though.
Post by: inaluct on April 11, 2009, 08:56:55 pm
I might try hosting a pirate Mafia too, if anybody is interested.
I'd be very interested. You're still a doppelganger, though. I know it.
Post by: webadict on April 11, 2009, 09:03:28 pm
I would like to say this: This is Day 2:
Aaaaand, I believe he's the Dopp leader. There's nothing I can do to prove this, so I really hope Org is the Vet. I'll need his help.I'd like to be scanned tonight; if we can confirm a 3-person circle of trust, we're well on our way to forming a powerful townie core, first.As much as Beacon80 is a danger to us all, there's a small possibility that he's the amazingly dangerous Alien Doppseeker. I'd like to talk to the agent - by proxy through you or directly - about what we should do about Beacon80.Unfortunately, it has to be via proxy. He has to check people first. He doesn't even want a doctor to talk to him until the doc's scanned.
So, what would you like to say to him?
Second, I think we should try to add inaluct to our core once it's developed - if he's a townie. I'll try to get someone else to make the push by implying through PMs if the guy is guilty when we check him.
Sound good?
Check Solifuge tonight. I'll try and deal with Pandarsenic. Do you have anything you wanna say to him?
Nice game to all. I'm afraid that I did lie. A lot. Which is why, if no one noticed, I said, "There are plenty of times when a Townie would need to lie" in game. Sorry for the innocents I got lynched. I'd've preferred to lynch a Dopp...
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 11, 2009, 09:10:29 pm
<_<
>_>
Post by: Org on April 11, 2009, 09:10:47 pm
And now that its over, I have this to post. I dont think Meph posted it...
My Death:
You awake in the night, a cracking sound above your head warning you that something is amiss. Your dog is at your side, growling up at the ceiling. You slide out of bed and grab up the pistol you keep on your nightstand. You check your window to make sure that it is secure and the bars in place, and then move off towards the hallway. Your dog moves off ahead of you and down the hall. As you step out of your room, you hear a crash behind you.
Spinning, you snap off several shots at the figure that has crashed down out of your ceiling. It rolls to the side, and then launches itself at you. You fall backwards, the force of the impact sending your pistol flying from your hand. You give an adrenaline fueled lurch and send the monster hurling over you into the hallway. You quickly roll to your feet, looking around wildly for your gun. As the creature gets up you see your dog barrel into it from behind, slamming it back down into the ground with his teeth clamped onto its shoulder.
Thinking quickly, you dash back into your room, where you grab another gun and a bandolier of ammo and grenades off the top of your dresser. You turn back just in time to have the body of your loyal dog crash into you. A moment later your new pistol is kicked from your hand. You lash out with your foot, catching the monster in the knee and toppling it to the ground. You throw your poor dog's body on top of it and dive over the bed. Knowing that you have almost no chance of beating this thing without a gun, you grab one of the grenades off of your bandolier and pull out the pin. As the creature leaps over the bed at you, you grab it by the throat and jam the grenade down it's ugly gullet. "See you in hell, monster!" You growl at it as its claws rip frantically into you. A few seconds later the world explodes, and you drift quietly into death.
Post by: webadict on April 11, 2009, 11:38:39 pm
Post by: Solifuge on April 11, 2009, 11:46:01 pm
Sorry for the innocents I got lynched. I'd've preferred to lynch a Dopp...
Too bad you NEVER DID!
<_<
>_>
I do believe I just LOLed.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 11, 2009, 11:47:35 pm
Hungry for something tastier then pig flesh, Nuke sets off for Org's house. The yard is surrounded by a high fence and gate, the top of the fence studded with sharp stones to keep out unwanted intruders. However, he uses his great strength and climbing ability to leap over the fence from the roof of a nearby house. As he moves stealthily around the yard he detects another presence in the house beyond his target. Canine. That complicates things a bit, but should still be manageable.
After scaling the side of the house he moves over to the small attic window. It is barred, but the holdings are just fastened into wood. A quick pull and the wood breaks free of the house. A little noisier then he'd have liked, but he's inside. He moves carefully about the attic, the floor nothing but rafters and insulation. After a short search he detects his prey beneath him. The insulation is quickly removed, revealing the thin ceiling beneath. With a jump, he crashes through and lands on the carpet beside the bed. Org spins around from his spot by the door, pistol basting. Nuke rolls out of the way and launches himself at Org. They tumble into the hallway, the pistol spinning from Org's hands as the doppelganger's claws rip into the soldier. With a lurch Org sends Nuke flipping over onto the hard floor of the hallway. He scrambles to his feet, looking desperately for his gun.
As Nuke rolls back to his feet he is driven back down by a growling mass of fur and teeth. The dog clamps its teeth down on the doppelganger's shoulder. Nuke hisses in pain and digs his claws into the dogs neck and pulling at it in an effort to remove this new threat.
With the monster occupied, Org runs back into his room, searching for more weapons. He turns back just in time to be bowled over by the body of his faithful dog. Nuke rushes the soldier, kicking the pistol from his hand as he struggles to rise. Org kicks out at the creatures knee, throwing his dog's body on top of the monster as it falls. He then dives over his bed and rolls onto the floor. Nuke shrugs off the dog's corpse and leaps over the bed. Org grabs his neck as he comes over, and shoves a hard metal object in his mouth. "See you in hell, monster!"
Nuke struggles to spit out the object, Org's hands firmly grasped onto the object and the monster. He grimly ignores the raking claws, and simply stares at the eyeless visage before him. Moments later, the night is shattered with the blast of an exploding grenade.
The two surviving doppelgangers wait. And wait. And wait. Eventually, you decide that Nuke will not be returning, and head towards Org's house to investigate. One window has been shattered, and can see dark blood splattered across the walls. A curled doppelganger hand can be seen clutching the bed sheets from the floor. Nuke has obviously failed. Moving carefully, you search the area, but can detect no more signs of life. The body of Org lies on the floor near Nuke, both of them showing serious wounds from sort of explosion. You silently grab the dead soldier's body. You will feast on him, both to assuage your hunger and avenge your fallen kin.
Post by: webadict on April 11, 2009, 11:56:51 pm
Technically, I got Pandarsenic AND Alexhans lynched. Right?Sorry for the innocents I got lynched. I'd've preferred to lynch a Dopp...Too bad you NEVER DID!
<_<
>_>
I do believe I just LOLed.
...
RIGHT?!?!?!?
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 12, 2009, 12:01:36 am
Post by: Solifuge on April 12, 2009, 12:02:59 am
After updating your log, you head out for your first extermination. If the target is as he seems to be, this should be quick and easy. If he's not, well, that just makes things more interesting.
You move swiftly through the night towards your target's house. Nearby you find some convenient trees, large and well branched. A perfect sniping position. You settle in for a bit to watch your target through the advanced sensors on your gun. No need to risk surprises, after all.
After a while, the house darkens completely and you can see your target slumbering in a large bed. The shot will be tricky, as he's moved furniture in-between himself and the windows. But with high powered weaponry, even walls are no obstacle. As you line up the shot, however, you find yourself being launched from the tree. You land heavily on the ground. Unhurt, fortunately, but your screening device is damaged in the process. No time to think about that, though, as you fire at the creature in the tree that attacked you. Your first blast rips through the tree where the creature was perched, missing it by mere inches. As it leaps down from the tree you roll to your feet and send another blast flying at it. It weaves to the side, the stray bolt turning a nearby trashcan into smoldering bits. The creature, obviously a doppelganger, is fast. Faster then expected. It reaches you before you can get off another shot and rips your gun-arm off at the elbow. You let out an involuntary scream as you step back, your other hand already moving down to grab the knife from your belt. The creature lunges at you, and you slash upwards with your knife. It connects, be the creature doesn't even flinch. Your vision fades as its incredibly strong hands close about your throat.
Your death is swift and painless.
Who was that Doppleganger? Tell me it was you, Panda. It'd be fitting.
I too dealt with the devil in this game.
Spoiler: Conversations with Pandarsenic (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: An Out-of-Game Convo with Pandarsenic: (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Look Scooby, a Clue! (click to show/hide)
Also, it's a pity we weren't better friends, Webadict, what with you investigating me, and inadvertently siccing the dopples on me, and me trying to blast you into carbon atoms...
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 12, 2009, 12:04:08 am
Post by: webadict on April 12, 2009, 12:10:54 am
No. We're going out in a bloody rage once you get your third vote for one of us. :POh, I see. Well then. Let's get'em, boys!
Whoa there, Solifuge. I never sent them after you! Honestly, I never expected you to be the Exterminator. Best never to make deals with people you don't know.
My biggest problem was that I could only find one Dopp: Pandarsenic, yet I could not find anyone else from his information. He kept your guys' secrets safe.
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 12, 2009, 12:16:32 am
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You head over to Masami Phonix's house to begin your investigations. As you walk around the back fence, however, your foot snags on a line. Suddenly flood lights turn on, washing the back yard in a harsh glow. You hear a voice scream out from the house "Die, you man-eating freak!"
Automatic fire rips through the fence. You duck and try to dodge away, but a bullet slams into your side. You gasp in pain and fall to the ground. Painfully, you roll down into the shelter of the gutter and slowly crawl back towards your house.
As you make your way back a figure approaches you in the dark. He bends down near you and speak softly. "Don't worry, you'll be all right." You try to answer, but you find your vision fading. You drift into the blackness.
You awaken the next morning on your couch. Your side hurts, but the bullet is gone and your wounds have been dressed. Beside you is a bottle of prescription pain medication, with a note to be more careful during your excursions.
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You spend the evening investigating Pandarsenic. After most of the night is spent listening to bugs, watching hidden cameras, and other such surveillance you can come to no other conclusion then he is a normal human.
Tired and hungry, you head down to your kitchen to make a snack before going off to bed. As you slice some cheese for your sandwich your kitchen door crashes down. Before you stands the largest doppelganger you've seen yet. It stalks towards you, claws out and fangs barred. Though eyeless, it seems to stare right through you, and you can sense the hunger emanating from it. You stab at it with your knife, and it dodges backwards. You fling your plate at it, but the creature ducks with almost unnatural swiftness, and the plate crashes against the wall. As it rushes you, you try to stab it again, but it grabs your arm and lifts you up. You are spun and hurled down the hallway. You hear a crash, and then the world goes dark.
...
You awaken on your couch, an ice pack on your head and bandages across your chest. Your head hurts. Your ribs hurt. But at least you're alive. A note on the coffee table simply says 'You're welcome'.
Was that you Pandar?
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 12, 2009, 12:18:52 am
By that point we'd (I'd) decided that of me and Alexhans, keeping others safe was more important than sheltering me since my Dopphood was rather obvious.
Post by: Alexhans on April 12, 2009, 11:10:43 am
Nice game to all. I'm afraid that I did lie. A lot. Which is why, if no one noticed, I said, "There are plenty of times when a Townie would need to lie" in game. Sorry for the innocents I got lynched. I'd've preferred to lynch a Dopp...Don't ever do that in mafiascum where there are no conversations outside the thread. This is possible here due to the break on the convention of talking during the day and outside the thread between any player. It's more like gossip mafia.
Quote from: webadict
My biggest problem was that I could only find one Dopp: Pandarsenic, yet I could not find anyone else from his information. He kept your guys' secrets safe.Oh :) Thanks Pandar
Post by: Beacon80 on April 12, 2009, 11:19:57 am
Post by: Mephansteras on April 12, 2009, 03:02:37 pm
As the tide turns against Pandarsenic, he grows more an more furious. Eventually he snaps, and turns on the remaining townsfolk. His form shifts, and in its place stands a large, imposing doppelganger.
"Enough of this farce!" He bellows. "Two of us are more then a match for you puny humans!". He grabs Servant Corps and Webadict with a single hand each, and hurls them the length of the room to crash into the far wall.
Beacon, the doctor, rushes them as Masami Phonix, last of the Veterans, pulls a pistol out from under his jacket.
chaoticjosh, the Agent, pulls out his pistol as well, leveling it against the head of a very surprised Alexhans. "One move, monster, and you're dead"
Pandarsenic hurls a table against Masami, who tumbles back onto the floor. The Doppelganger Leader leaps over to his stunned form and grabs a leg. With effortless might he drags the solider to hang upside down before him. "Any last words, human?" grows the monster.
"Yeah, still got my gun!" shouts Masami, bringing the pistol up and plugging several shots into the doppelganger's chest. With a last burst of strength, the monster flings him away and stumbles for the door. But even its healing abilities are not enough, and it collapses weakly against the door jamb before quietly expiring.
"You, monster, are coming with me" says the Agent to Alexhans. "Luckily for you, you're worth more alive then dead."
"Ah, yes...yes. I'm...I'm glad you see that", stammers the remaining doppelganger. "I won't resist. I just want to live!"
Beacon gets everyone else back up on their feet. Some bruises and a broken bone or two, but at least they're all alive.
Alex allows himself to be bound with heavy steel cable, and the town settles in to wait for the bridges to the outside world to be restored. A very costly victory, but a victory for humanity nonetheless.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 12, 2009, 04:39:57 pm
Post by: Solifuge on April 12, 2009, 07:08:23 pm
You are an Alien. Your government has been experimenting with the perfect spy. An artificial race of creatures that can take any form. Even better, they can consume the brain of a creature and take on their memories, their mannerisms, everything. At least in theory. However, while the project has gotten pretty far along it's run into a few snags. This particular batch was being tested out on the pre-interstellar planet of Earth, and while the doppelgangers are good at mimicking the humans they're also worthless as spies. They seem to be consumed with hunger and bloodlust, and are not responding to the control waves the scientists running the program are sending out. Time for a wipe.
That's where you come in. You're an Exterminator. Your job is to wipe the experiment site clean. Destroy all evidence of the creatures and kill everyone in the town off without letting the local government in on your presence. It's possible they are in contact with your enemies, so strict regulations forbid that. Be wary of any other alien forces that may be in town. Hopefully they haven't gotten wind of this venture, but you can't be too careful. If you find any of them, make sure they die as well.
You've already destroyed the spot where the pods were placed down, as well as all other routes out of here. No one is going anywhere anytime soon. So, take your time, pick your targets, and don't get spotted.
Post by: webadict on April 12, 2009, 08:59:57 pm
I probably should've just lynched Pandarsenic, but I figured I could try and extract who his partners were. Never happened. He was crafty... Plus, I didn't think Alexhans was a Dopp at all until he said the checking thing. He would've been fine had he said that he had talked to Pandarsenic. But, I think he thought I was talking about something else.
Old man webadict will be glad to have survived the game.
Yeah. I'd always wanted to join, but... I couldn't actually figure out how to. So, I never did. Also, yes. Their Mafia is very different than ours. I prefer ours though. It's very nice and relaxed, or stressful and strategic, depending on your style of playing.Nice game to all. I'm afraid that I did lie. A lot. Which is why, if no one noticed, I said, "There are plenty of times when a Townie would need to lie" in game. Sorry for the innocents I got lynched. I'd've preferred to lynch a Dopp...Don't ever do that in mafiascum where there are no conversations outside the thread. This is possible here due to the break on the convention of talking during the day and outside the thread between any player. It's more like gossip mafia.
Also, I actually needed the Town to be smaller in order to completely win. See, our Town base consisted of 4 confirmed. So, we needed to drop the Town to 3 or less non-confirmed in order to ensure victory.
Post by: inaluct on April 12, 2009, 09:11:46 pm
Post by: webadict on April 12, 2009, 09:16:22 pm
I gave credit to Org. And you expect me to congratulate you for lynching me?If it makes you feel better your lynch helped win the game.
Post by: Cheeetar on April 12, 2009, 09:22:11 pm
Welcome to the Paranormal Mafia game!
You are an Alien.
You have been tasked by your government to investigate rumors that a rival Alien civilization has been experimenting with new biological infiltration agents on the pre-interstellar planet of Earth. You set down in this town shortly after all of the killings began, and you witnessed first-hand the pods of the Doppelgangers and the body of the dead doppelganger. Now you have new orders, to contact any Federal Agents within the town, inform them of the true meaning behind the doppelgangers, and use them to get in contact with the local earth Government. However, your presence MUST remain secret. Therefore, any individuals that you contact that are not agents must be killed immediately. Since we do not wish any harm to come to the humans, do not contact anyone unless you have a strong suspicion that they are in fact an agent.
Should you discover that there are no Federal agents in this town, or the agent is killed during your time here, you are to stay in the town and help them find and kill the doppelgangers. Once the danger is passed, you can contact any agents who come to investigate the town afterwards.
Rules: You may contact one person during each night phase (PM me who you choose during the Night Phase). If that person is the Agent, you win and vanish from the game. If that person is not the agent, you will attempt to kill them. You will kill any normal human or Alien. The Exterminator alien or a doppelganger will have a 50% chance to kill you instead. An Army Vet will kill you before you get inside, so you will need to be careful who you target. If the Agent is killed, you act as a regular townsperson, losing if the town loses and winning if you stay alive until the end of the game with the town winning.
Post by: Masami Phonix on April 13, 2009, 12:14:24 am
You are a Veteran.
You served several tours of Duty in Iraq, and saw your share of conflict. Now, you live in a small town doing basic car repairs and spending your off-time in your own personal firing range in your back yard.
You're pretty sure you could hole up in your house and weather this mess in safety. You've got the supplies for it, and your house is barricaded up pretty good. But you didn't risk your life in a foreign land just to turn your back on your neighbors when they need you most. So you'll go out each day and help them find and kill these monsters. AT night, you keep your guns handy and one eye open. If any monsters come hunting you, they'll eat nothing but lead.
Rules: If anyone comes to you at night, you kill them with your guns. This includes helpful roles, like the Agent or Doctor. You may choose to disable this ability for a night, but that leaves you vulnerable to the doppelgangers should they attack you. I will assume that you are using your ability unless you specifically PM me saying otherwise.
Of course then on the second night...
You sleep fitfully, a modified AK-47 leaning on your bedstand and ready to use at a moment's notice. Partway through the night you hear a click and your alarm system goes off. As you bolt awake and grab your gun you see the back yard floodlight turn on, and a shadowy figure through the slats in the fence. You scream a curse at the monster and open fire. Your bullets explode through the fence. You see the figure drop and roll. You're pretty sure you hit it, whatever it was. Not that you'd be foolish enough to go check, of course.
You spend the rest of the night checking your defenses and patrolling with your gun. They won't catch this soldier with his guard down!
I felt bad for having almost killed Josh, but I have no regrets for the way I lived.
Seriously though, I was trying to figure out the best way to get the dopps to come after me in the night. Before I was warned off of accusing Org, I was going to accuse him of lying and claim I was the real doctor.
At least in the end I got to kill the Dopp leader, even if it wasn't in game.
Post by: Kashyyk on April 13, 2009, 08:14:08 am
But on a side note, will there be a third one?
Post by: Mephansteras on April 13, 2009, 09:22:54 am
I still want to get more opinions on the new roles, but I'll start the signup thread now, i guess.
Post by: Cheeetar on April 13, 2009, 09:25:51 am
Post by: Alexhans on April 13, 2009, 10:35:26 am
I prefer my end to Alexhan's, because it doesn't involve me being a total wuss. :PI'm still alive though... Maybe one day I can excape or be rescued. There's no escape from death however.
I'll definetly join the next one... I must make up for my mistakes. In whatever team I am...
Post by: Masami Phonix on April 13, 2009, 11:16:19 am
I prefer my end to Alexhan's, because it doesn't involve me being a total wuss. :PI'm still alive though... Maybe one day I can excape or be rescued. There's no escape from death however.
Unless Pandarsenic found religion right before he died. A spawned-again-Christian?
Post by: Servant Corps on April 13, 2009, 11:26:06 am
Post by: Kashyyk on April 13, 2009, 12:18:32 pm
Post by: Solifuge on April 13, 2009, 01:08:50 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on April 13, 2009, 03:05:03 pm
Here are the Starting PMs
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CheeetarAlien None Contact Agent
You are an Alien.
You have been tasked by your government to investigate rumors that a rival Alien civilization has been experimenting with new biological infiltration agents on the pre-interstellar planet of Earth. You set down in this town shortly after all of the killings began, and you witnessed first-hand the pods of the Doppelgangers and the body of the dead doppelganger. Now you have new orders, to contact any Federal Agents within the town, inform them of the true meaning behind the doppelgangers, and use them to get in contact with the local earth Government. However, your presence MUST remain secret. Therefore, any individuals that you contact that are not agents must be killed immediately. Since we do not wish any harm to come to the humans, do not contact anyone unless you have a strong suspicion that they are in fact an agent.
Should you discover that there are no Federal agents in this town, or the agent is killed during your time here, you are to stay in the town and help them find and kill the doppelgangers. Once the danger is passed, you can contact any agents who come to investigate the town afterwards.
Rules: You may contact one person during each night phase (PM me who you choose during the Night Phase). If that person is the Agent, you win and vanish from the game. If that person is not the agent, you will attempt to kill them. You will kill any normal human or Alien. The Exterminator alien or a doppelganger will have a 50% chance to kill you instead. An Army Vet will kill you before you get inside, so you will need to be careful who you target. If the Agent is killed, you act as a regular townsperson, losing if the town loses and winning if you stay alive until the end of the game with the town winning.
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Solifuge Alien None Exterminate all players
You are an Alien.
Your government has been experimenting with the perfect spy. An artificial race of creatures that can take any form. Even better, they can consume the brain of a creature and take on their memories, their mannerisms, everything. At least in theory. However, while the project has gotten pretty far along it's run into a few snags. This particular batch was being tested out on the pre-interstellar planet of Earth, and while the doppelgangers are good at mimicking the humans they're also worthless as spies. They seem to be consumed with hunger and bloodlust, and are not responding to the control waves the scientists running the program are sending out. Time for a wipe.
That's where you come in. You're an Exterminator. Your job is to wipe the experiment site clean. Destroy all evidence of the creatures and kill everyone in the town off without letting the local government in on your presence. It's possible they are in contact with your enemies, so strict regulations forbid that. Be wary of any other alien forces that may be in town. Hopefully they haven't gotten wind of this venture, but you can't be too careful. If you find any of them, make sure they die as well.
You've already destroyed the spot where the pods were placed down, as well as all other routes out of here. No one is going anywhere anytime soon. So, take your time, pick your targets, and don't get spotted.
Rules: Your goal is to be the last one standing. If at any point a day is reached where only you and one other are left, you win. To help you meet this goal, you get to kill one player each night (PM me who you choose during the Night Phase). Be careful, however, as any Army Veterans in the town have a chance to kill you off first (50% chance).
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Pandarsenic Doppelganger Leader Town Loses
Alexhans Doppelganger None Town Loses
Katsuun Doppelganger None Town Loses
NUKE9.13 Doppelganger None Town Loses
You four are the Doppelgangers!
You don't know where you came from, or why, only that you are consumed with an insatiable hunger for human flesh and share the ability to transform completely into the body of your first victim. There were five of you, but one had the misfortune of taking over the body of an insane man, and ended up causing that debacle at the clinic. While he's dead now, you're stuck with a situation where the humans know you exist and what's going on. You're trapped here in this town, and they're trying to kill you. Unfortunately for them, you hold all the cards. Once this farce is done with you can make your way out of here and move on to wider hunting grounds.
As the most adept of you, Pandarsenic is your leader. He is completely immune to detection from any investigative sources while the rest of you are not.
As a group, you pick one person each night to consume. One of you is delegated to go fetch the evening's dinner while the others will meet at an arranged feasting spot.
Good hunting!
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chaoticjosh Human Agent Town Wins
You are an FBI Agent. Your agency has gotten information suggesting very strange activity going on in this town, and you are here to investigate. After you arrived, things turned out even stranger then you had imagined.
Now, your only hope of survival is to use your skills to determine who these doppelgangers are before they kill you and every other human left.
Rules: Each night you may select one person to investigate. You will be told what species that person is. Be warned, though, a truly skilled doppelganger may be able to trick you into thinking they are human!
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Masami Phonix Human Army Vet Town Wins
You are a Veteran. You served several tours of Duty in Iraq, and saw your share of conflict. Now, you live in a small town doing basic car repairs and spending your off-time in your own personal firing range in your back yard.
You're pretty sure you could hole up in your house and weather this mess in safety. You've got the supplies for it, and your house is barricaded up pretty good. But you didn't risk your life in a foreign land just to turn your back on your neighbors when they need you most. So you'll go out each day and help them find and kill these monsters. AT night, you keep your guns handy and one eye open. If any monsters come hunting you, they'll eat nothing but lead.
Rules: If anyone comes to you at night, you kill them with your guns. This includes helpful roles, like the Agent or Doctor. You may choose to disable this ability for a night, but that leaves you vulnerable to the doppelgangers should they attack you. I will assume that you are using your ability unless you specifically PM me saying otherwise.
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Org Human Army Vet Town Wins
You are a veteran. You spent the last few years hunting Taliban in the mountains of Afghanistan. Now, you live in a small town writing the nation's next great Military thriller. You go hunting sometimes, and you've got your dog for company. It's been a good life, so far, at least until these monsters showed up.
You're pretty sure you could hole up in your house and weather this mess in safety. You've got the supplies for it, and your house is barricaded up pretty good. But you didn't risk your life in a foreign land just to turn your back on your neighbors when they need you most. So you'll go out each day and help them find and kill these monsters. AT night, you keep your guns handy and your dog close by. If any monsters come hunting you, they'll eat nothing but lead.
Rules: If anyone comes to you at night, you kill them with your guns. This includes helpful roles, like the Agent or Doctor. You may choose to disable this ability for a night, but that leaves you vulnerable to the doppelgangers should they attack you. I will assume that you are using your ability unless you specifically PM me saying otherwise.
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Zaithemaster Human Army Vet Town Wins
You are a veteran. You spent the last few years doing tours in Afghanistan and Iraq. Now, you're back in your home town and trying to readjust to civilian life as best you can. You still have a good supply of guns, though. You never know when you might need them, and it's looking like that time is now.
You're pretty sure you could hole up in your house and weather this mess in safety. You've got the supplies for it, and your house is barricaded up pretty good. But you didn't risk your life in a foreign land just to turn your back on your neighbors when they need you most. So you'll go out each day and help them find and kill these monsters. AT night, you keep your guns handy and one eye open. If any monsters come hunting you, they'll eat nothing but lead.
Rules: If anyone comes to you at night, you kill them with your guns. This includes helpful roles, like the Agent or Doctor. You may choose to disable this ability for a night, but that leaves you vulnerable to the doppelgangers should they attack you. I will assume that you are using your ability unless you specifically PM me saying otherwise.
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Beacon80 Human Doctor Town Wins
You are a doctor. You had retired a few years back, but with the mess at the clinic you know the town will need your help. You're keeping a low profile though, since you don't want to be singled out by the monsters for supper.
Rules: Each night you may choose to use your skills to keep someone from being killed. You may not use this ability on yourself. Be careful, though, as an Army Vet is pretty jumpy and likely to shoot you if you come near his house. PM me your choice of who to guard (if anyone) each night phase.
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Archangel Human None Town Wins
Karlito Human None Town Wins
Kashyyk Human None Town Wins
inaluct Human None Town Wins
webadict Human None Town Wins
Welcome to the Paranormal Mafia game!
You are a normal townsperson. You have no abilities other than your wits and a determination to see your town saved from these man-eating monsters.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 13, 2009, 03:07:27 pm
For chaoticjosh:
You spend the night investigating webadict. With the help of some sophisticated surveillance equipment and some stealthy sleuthing you manage to find out quite a bit of information about him during the course of the night.
You end the night confident that he is a normal human.
For Zaithemaster:
You awaken in the middle of the night, your raw nerves snapping you awake. Cautiously, you grab your rifle and look around, peering through the darkness for any sign of movement, listening for the faintest trace of an intruder. After a while, you grow restless and begin walking through your house checking windows, making sure doors are locked, and generally testing your defenses. Suddenly the floorboards underneath you burst upwards and a sharply clawed arm grabs hold of your leg. As you are pulled down into the darkness under your house you fire down with your rifle. Shot after shot rings out as sharp claws rip into you.
After a bit, the claws slacken and loosen their grip. You try to pull yourself up out of the hole, but blood loss from a severed artery takes its toll. You die with your rifle before you, body halfway onto the ripped up floorboards. As you drift into an endless darkness you feel a glimmer of triumph. You may die, but there is one monster to plague your town.
For Dopps:
Katsuun departs to find your next victim while the others wait in a secluded grove nearby. The house of Zaithemaster is heavily barricaded, almost a fortress. He skirts the edges of the property, looking for a way in. Finally, he spots an opening; the bottom of the house looks like it has a crawlspace under it, and the stairway in the front has a small entrance to that area. Too small for a grown human, but easy enough for the shifting form of a doppelganger.
He slips underneath the house and slowly crawls his way inside. After a bit he hears footsteps inside. A heavy tread the moves through the house, accompanied by small sounds of metal and wood. Soon, the footsteps move directly over him. With supernatural strength he rips through the floorboards and starts to drag Zai down. The former soldier, however, is carrying a rifle. He fires blindly down into the darkness at Katsuun, who in turn digs his claws deeply into the human's flesh. Eventually, the shots cease, and the exhausted and bloodsoaked human tries vainly pull himself back up into the house. He dies in the effort, too much blood having flowed from a severed artery. Katsuun, however, cannot savor this victory, He lies dead as well, of a shot to the brain.
The others, after waiting for what feels like forever, eventually follow. Their stomachs growling, almost painfully after the long wait. They slowly investigate the house, and a peak through a small slit in the door reveals the fate of Zai. You break down the door and search the scene of the fight. After discovering the body of Katsuun below, you pause only long enough to grab Zais body. Back in the glade, you feast on the body of the slain soldier.
This night did not go as planned, and as hunger is replaced by reason your thoughts turn grim. If other humans have weapons like these, your lives might be in danger as well.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 13, 2009, 03:08:45 pm
For Dopps:
As agreed, Nuke sets out to kill Solifuge and bring the body back to others who wait in their secluded grove.
He moves swiftly towards Solifuge's house, changing into his natural form as he goes. However, when he arrives at Solifuge's house, he finds it strangely empty. Solifuge must have gone out. Nuke then begins to scout around, picking up traces of Solifuge's presence as he goes. Eventually, he finds his target up in a tree, across from one of the few houses in town still occupied. In his hands, he holds a strange looking gun. Perhaps this is another alien? No matter, it is Nuke's target and it will die. With a great leap the Doppelganger launches himself into the tree. Solifuge, fixated on his target, his caught unaware and is hurled from his perch by the doppelganger. He lands on the grass below with a grunt. As he lands, his form shimmers to reveal a large, somewhat humanoid figure. It is dressed in dark armor that obscures most of its features, but what can be seen is clearly alien in nature. Despite the hard landing, Solifuge is not phased and fires his strange weapon at Nuke. The bright green blast shatters tree branches and sets leaves on fire, but barely misses Nuke as he leaps from the tree. Solifuge rolls to his feet, and another shot flares in the darkness, exploding a nearby trashcan. Nuke, ducking and weaving to avoid the blasts, closes in on Solifuge. With a swipe of unnaturally sharp claws, he rips the alien's gun arm off at the elbow. Solifuge screams as acrid smelling blood pours from his arm. The alien then pulls out a knife, it's blade glinting in the faint moonlight. He counterattacks, the knife making a long, shallow slice up the doppelganger's leg. Ignoring the pain, Nuke reaches out with both hands rips the alien's head off. The body collapses to the ground, and Nuke picks up the severed arm.
A quick taste of the blood leaves the Doppelganger, doubled over, retching. This...this is not food. As lights come on in the nearby house, Nuke decides to leave before anything else dangerous shows up. The others will not be pleased to see him return without sustenance, though, so he raids a farm on his way back. Pig is not as good as human, but it will do in a pinch.
For Solifuge:
After updating your log, you head out for your first extermination. If the target is as he seems to be, this should be quick and easy. If he's not, well, that just makes things more interesting.
You move swiftly through the night towards your target's house. Nearby you find some convenient trees, large and well branched. A perfect sniping position. You settle in for a bit to watch your target through the advanced sensors on your gun. No need to risk surprises, after all.
After a while, the house darkens completely and you can see your target slumbering in a large bed. The shot will be tricky, as he's moved furniture in-between himself and the windows. But with high powered weaponry, even walls are no obstacle. As you line up the shot, however, you find yourself being launched from the tree. You land heavily on the ground. Unhurt, fortunately, but your screening device is damaged in the process. No time to think about that, though, as you fire at the creature in the tree that attacked you. Your first blast rips through the tree where the creature was perched, missing it by mere inches. As it leaps down from the tree you roll to your feet and send another blast flying at it. It weaves to the side, the stray bolt turning a nearby trashcan into smoldering bits. The creature, obviously a doppelganger, is fast. Faster then expected. It reaches you before you can get off another shot and rips your gun-arm off at the elbow. You let out an involuntary scream as you step back, your other hand already moving down to grab the knife from your belt. The creature lunges at you, and you slash upwards with your knife. It connects, be the creature doesn't even flinch. Your vision fades as its incredibly strong hands close about your throat.
Your death is swift and painless.
For Webadict:
You bolt awake in the middle of the night. A bright light from outside, and a thump, snap you into alertness. You quickly roll out of bed and flatten your back against a wall, your dresser in between the window and you. You peak out through a tiny sliver of the window. You can't see much, but from what you can tell there is a fight going on in your front yard.
After a short while you hear a loud scream. A few seconds later, there is a wet ripping sound and then silence. You wait for a bit, palms sweaty, before risking another look. The yard is dark, so you flick a switch next to your bed that triggers the outside floodlights (something you added due to the recent events). You see a strange form standing over a body. It holds an arm in it's hands, and is licking it. Suddenly it bends forward and retches. The arm is dropped, and the creature staggers off into the night.
You spend the rest of the night looking outside, wondering who died, and wanting to go look but too afraid to risk it.
For chaoticjosh:
You head over to Masami Phonix's house to begin your investigations. As you walk around the back fence, however, your foot snags on a line. Suddenly flood lights turn on, washing the back yard in a harsh glow. You hear a voice scream out from the house "Die, you man-eating freak!"
Automatic fire rips through the fence. You duck and try to dodge away, but a bullet slams into your side. You gasp in pain and fall to the ground. Painfully, you roll down into the shelter of the gutter and slowly crawl back towards your house.
As you make your way back a figure approaches you in the dark. He bends down near you and speak softly. "Don't worry, you'll be all right." You try to answer, but you find your vision fading. You drift into the blackness.
You awaken the next morning on your couch. Your side hurts, but the bullet is gone and your wounds have been dressed. Beside you is a bottle of prescription pain medication, with a note to be more careful during your excursions.
For Beacon80:
You go out during the night to check up on ChaoticJosh. As you near his house you see him walking away from it, a large duffel bag over his shoulder. You follow him, staying back to make sure you are not seen.
After a bit, he gets to his destination. As he starts to go around the back fence, however, the area is suddenly flooded with light. You hear a shout, but cannot make out the words. Shortly afterwards you hear the sharp rapport of gun fire, and the fence explodes as bullets rip into it. ChaoticJosh starts to duck and move away, but falls to the ground. You can see him roll into the gutter, and slowly, painfully, crawl his way back towards his house. The gunfire ceases for a bit, but the lights stay on.
You wait until there is no chance of the gunman spotting you before going to his aid. He passes out as you reach him, so you carefully take him back to his house. Working swiftly but carefully you extract the bullet from his side and dress the wound. He'll be in pain, but he should be all right. You leave him sleeping on his couch, with a bottle of pain medicine and a note to be more careful in the future. Then you head home to try and get a little sleep before the next day's trials.
For Masami Phonix
You sleep fitfully, a modified AK-47 leaning on your bedstand and ready to use at a moment's notice. Partway through the night you hear a click and your alarm system goes off. As you bolt awake and grab your gun you see the back yard floodlight turn on, and a shadowy figure through the slats in the fence. You scream a curse at the monster and open fire. Your bullets explode through the fence. You see the figure drop and roll. You're pretty sure you hit it, whatever it was. Not that you'd be foolish enough to go check, of course.
You spend the rest of the night checking your defenses and patrolling with your gun. They won't catch this soldier with his guard down!
Post by: Mephansteras on April 13, 2009, 03:09:35 pm
For Dopps:
Hungry for something tastier then pig flesh, Nuke sets off for Org's house. The yard is surrounded by a high fence and gate, the top of the fence studded with sharp stones to keep out unwanted intruders. However, he uses his great strength and climbing ability to leap over the fence from the roof of a nearby house. As he moves stealthily around the yard he detects another presence in the house beyond his target. Canine. That complicates things a bit, but should still be manageable.
After scaling the side of the house he moves over to the small attic window. It is barred, but the holdings are just fastened into wood. A quick pull and the wood breaks free of the house. A little noisier then he'd have liked, but he's inside. He moves carefully about the attic, the floor nothing but rafters and insulation. After a short search he detects his prey beneath him. The insulation is quickly removed, revealing the thin ceiling beneath. With a jump, he crashes through and lands on the carpet beside the bed. Org spins around from his spot by the door, pistol basting. Nuke rolls out of the way and launches himself at Org. They tumble into the hallway, the pistol spinning from Org's hands as the doppelganger's claws rip into the soldier. With a lurch Org sends Nuke flipping over onto the hard floor of the hallway. He scrambles to his feet, looking desperately for his gun.
As Nuke rolls back to his feet he is driven back down by a growling mass of fur and teeth. The dog clamps its teeth down on the doppelganger's shoulder. Nuke hisses in pain and digs his claws into the dogs neck and pulling at it in an effort to remove this new threat.
With the monster occupied, Org runs back into his room, searching for more weapons. He turns back just in time to be bowled over by the body of his faithful dog. Nuke rushes the soldier, kicking the pistol from his hand as he struggles to rise. Org kicks out at the creatures knee, throwing his dog's body on top of the monster as it falls. He then dives over his bed and rolls onto the floor. Nuke shrugs off the dog's corpse and leaps over the bed. Org grabs his neck as he comes over, and shoves a hard metal object in his mouth. "See you in hell, monster!"
Nuke struggles to spit out the object, Org's hands firmly grasped onto the object and the monster. He grimly ignores the raking claws, and simply stares at the eyeless visage before him. Moments later, the night is shattered with the blast of an exploding grenade.
The two surviving doppelgangers wait. And wait. And wait. Eventually, you decide that Nuke will not be returning, and head towards Org's house to investigate. One window has been shattered, and can see dark blood splattered across the walls. A curled doppelganger hand can be seen clutching the bed sheets from the floor. Nuke has obviously failed. Moving carefully, you search the area, but can detect no more signs of life. The body of Org lies on the floor near Nuke, both of them showing serious wounds from sort of explosion. You silently grab the dead soldier's body. You will feast on him, both to assuage your hunger and avenge your fallen kin.
For Org:
You awake in the night, a cracking sound above your head warning you that something is amiss. Your dog is at your side, growling up at the ceiling. You slide out of bed and grab up the pistol you keep on your nightstand. You check your window to make sure that it is secure and the bars in place, and then move off towards the hallway. Your dog moves off ahead of you and down the hall. As you step out of your room, you hear a crash behind you.
Spinning, you snap off several shots at the figure that has crashed down out of your ceiling. It rolls to the side, and then launches itself at you. You fall backwards, the force of the impact sending your pistol flying from your hand. You give an adrenaline fueled lurch and send the monster hurling over you into the hallway. You quickly roll to your feet, looking around wildly for your gun. As the creature gets up you see your dog barrel into it from behind, slamming it back down into the ground with his teeth clamped onto its shoulder.
Thinking quickly, you dash back into your room, where you grab another gun and a bandolier of ammo and grenades off the top of your dresser. You turn back just in time to have the body of your loyal dog crash into you. A moment later your new pistol is kicked from your hand. You lash out with your foot, catching the monster in the knee and toppling it to the ground. You throw your poor dog's body on top of it and dive over the bed. Knowing that you have almost no chance of beating this thing without a gun, you grab one of the grenades off of your bandolier and pull out the pin. As the creature leaps over the bed at you, you grab it by the throat and jam the grenade down it's ugly gullet. "See you in hell, monster!" You growl at it as its claws rip frantically into you. A few seconds later the world explodes, and you drift quietly into death.
For chaoticjosh:
You head off to Org's house. As you near it, you hear a loud bang. Running up to the gate, you can see that one of the windows has shattered. You quickly pick the lock and head in. Walking carefully around the house you peer in through the shattered window. On the floor of the room you see the body of a doppelganger, it's head blown off. Org lies nearby, his body ripped by shrapnel and doppelganger claws, eyes staring lifelessly up at the ceiling. On the other side of the bed lies the body of a dog, it's fur matted with blood.
From the weapons and military paraphernalia scattered around the room, it was obvious that Org was a war vet. And one the went down fighting, to boot.
For Beacon80:
You trail chaoticjosh from a safe distance as he heads off to Nuke's. After a short while he leaves and heads back home. You check in on him a few times throughout the night, but nothing happens and you return to your house to catch a little bit of sleep before the day's trials.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 13, 2009, 03:10:02 pm
For Dopps:
Hunger gnaws at your bellies. Pork is food, but not filling. Not enough. You need human flesh, and Pandarsenic himself has decided to hunt for it.
He departs for chaoticjosh's house, his thoughts tinged with the red of hunger and bloodlust. The house is quiet when he arrives, although there is a light on in the kitchen. Chaoticjosh stands inside, apparently fixing some late night snack. Pandarsenic smashes the kitchen door down with a single powerful kick, claws out and mouth wide. His prey spins around and drops into a fighting crouch, a steak knife in hand. Panda slashes out with his claws, missing flesh but ripping through josh's loose shirt. He stabs with the knife, a blow easily dodged by the faster doppelganger. Next comes a hurled plate, which Panda ducks. It shatters against the wall behind him. He rushes forward, grabs the knife arm, and does a spinning throw. Chaoticjosh flies down a hallway to crash into a table, where he lies crumpled in its shattered remains.
As the hungry doppelganger begins to walk towards it incapacitated prey a bullet smashes into the doorjamb by his head. Another crashes through the kitchen window, and he can hear a voice screaming at him to die. The instinct for hunger wars with that to survive, but survival wins out. Frustrated and furious the doppelganger crashes his way through the front door and out into the night.
You subsist on pork again for dinner. The herd of pigs is thinning, though, so even if pig was acceptable you'd need human flesh soon.
For chaoticjosh:
You spend the evening investigating Pandarsenic. After most of the night is spent listening to bugs, watching hidden cameras, and other such surveillance you can come to no other conclusion then he is a normal human.
Tired and hungry, you head down to your kitchen to make a snack before going off to bed. As you slice some cheese for your sandwich your kitchen door crashes down. Before you stands the largest doppelganger you've seen yet. It stalks towards you, claws out and fangs barred. Though eyeless, it seems to stare right through you, and you can sense the hunger emanating from it. You stab at it with your knife, and it dodges backwards. You fling your plate at it, but the creature ducks with almost unnatural swiftness, and the plate crashes against the wall. As it rushes you, you try to stab it again, but it grabs your arm and lifts you up. You are spun and hurled down the hallway. You hear a crash, and then the world goes dark.
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You awaken on your couch, an ice pack on your head and bandages across your chest. Your head hurts. Your ribs hurt. But at least you're alive. A note on the coffee table simply says 'You're welcome'.
For Beacon80:
You check on chaoticjosh throughout the night. It goes quietly, for the most part, like most nights…for the most part.
As you check on him one last time, your emergency medical kit in one hand and an old hunting rifle in the other, you hear a crash from the back of his house. Dropping the bag You race around to the back, just in time to see chaoticjosh hurled out of the kitchen by the largest doppelganger you've seen yet. You quickly fire off a shot of your rifle. The bullet misses by a good foot or so, but it causes it to duck and stop its advance towards josh. You scream at it to die, and fire another bullet. This one misses even more, crashing through the window. But you seem to have scared it, as it rushes away through the house. You hear another crash, and as you enter the kitchen you can see that it has broken through the front door and vanished into the night.
After carefully checking around for a while to make sure it's gone, you retrieve your bag and check on Josh. He's unconscious, and at the very least has some bruised ribs from crashing into a table in the hallway. But he'll live. You make him comfortable on the couch, get an ice pack for his head, and wrap up his side. You leave a short note on his table saying 'You're welcome', and head back home.
Post by: Alexhans on April 13, 2009, 05:36:12 pm
Or at least bold the important parts like who died and what role he was. It was tiring when I was in a hurry to try to find out what had happened.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 13, 2009, 05:41:31 pm
Post by: Alexhans on April 13, 2009, 05:44:15 pm
Post by: Solifuge on April 13, 2009, 08:37:45 pm
Post by: Mephansteras on April 13, 2009, 08:42:16 pm
Post by: Alexhans on April 14, 2009, 02:23:29 pm
Solifuge... there may be times when you simply are in a hurry and can't read all that wall of creative writing.
Post by: Mephansteras on April 14, 2009, 02:25:48 pm
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Summary: Doppelganger Nuke attacked War Vet Org. Both are now dead.
Post by: Solifuge on April 14, 2009, 02:40:36 pm