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[Phoebus]

''vocalizations for animals''

what does that mean? Do animals make in-game sounds now or what?

When you walk around in adv. mode cows will moo around you, deers will bell and bears will roar. It's just a start, I will add vocalization to most animals with time. And yeah, it's for adventure mode only (and it will be great with Soundsense ; imagine entering a human town and hearing barking, moo, bleating and cackling from all around you).

You hear a loud roar.

It will be even better when you're down in a cave and:

You hear a loud cthulhuing.

With soundsense, it could even make you roll into a ball and cry in real life.
I can almost feel it!
</rambling>

[KaneAndTheHumanRace]

Oops, they have the same hotkey... Probably it's the reason, sorry guys .

Actually I just realized that there's a discrepancy between item_weapon_genesis and reaction_crafting; in one the string ITEM_AMMO_ARROWS_TIP is referenced, and in the other ITEM_AMMO_ARROWS_ROCKTIP is mentioned (the same for rocktip bolts).  Would this have an effect?  I've tried playing around with them and I don't notice any difference, except now I've ended up with an object described as "rock salt rocktip arrows" vs "rock salt arrows".

I really don't know what I'm doing...

[Angel Of Death]

Maybe bronze collossi and other large beasts could have *thump* or something similar as their sound.

[TomiTapio]

Maybe bronze collossi and other large beasts could have *thump* or something similar as their sound.

Everyone can help with this, use this format (Vanilla capybara)

Code: [Select]

[SOUND:ALERT:100:1000:VOCALIZATION:bark:barks:a loud bark]
[SOUND:PEACEFUL_INTERMITTENT:100:10000:VOCALIZATION:whistle:whistles:whistling]
[SOUND:PEACEFUL_INTERMITTENT:25:10000:VOCALIZATION:grunt:grunts:a grunt]
[SOUND:PEACEFUL_INTERMITTENT:5:10000:VOCALIZATION:purr:purrs:a purr]
[SOUND:PEACEFUL_INTERMITTENT:25:10000:NONE:click:clicks:a click]
and privatemessage-tell what creature I should give the list of sounds to. Maybe 10k is a volume, not sure. Or every 10k time ticks, and first number is volume or range. Magmawiki doesn't know, Toady knows.

Edit: metalworking picture... with chakats/foxtaurs. http://kaceym.deviantart.com/art/Learning-from-Dad-189227583

[Raul]

You should really release things in massive updates and have beta versions for the rapid updates. Instead of regenning a new world every week we could play our fortress or choose to have a quick fort with the beta and help you tweak everything until its all good then have a new release.

Its really hard to start a fort when you know there could be a new version out the next day that fixes some massive bug or adds a totally badass new feature.

Quoting Deon: "Seriously though, no, new updates won't change anything that breaks save games."

[_DivideByZero_]

Making moon silver in the phoebus version makes sun gold instead.

By the way, i'm just wondering, is there a way to get dwarf therapist running on linux for the newest version? The topic seems dead.

[ATR]

Sorry to interrupt gentlemen. Is there any use for feathers currently? Can't find it in the genesis manual or DF wiki so I assume its a new addition to genesis. I got it from butchering a Dragon Raptor. Be nice if I could decorate the tomb of my woodcutter who was eaten by him.

[Lamphare]

Making moon silver in the phoebus version makes sun gold instead.

By the way, i'm just wondering, is there a way to get dwarf therapist running on linux for the newest version? The topic seems dead.

donno anything about linux, but when i tried to run DT 6.10 with 31.25 for the first time(as it supposed not to support 31.25), a messenger box popped up and said DT had just updated to enable it to connect with 31.25, as i was planning to do it manually....
it gave me an impression that i had missed out something severely...
but it works fine
otherwise, bottom of this post probably would help you

[Alarion]

Quick question: Where in the scale of "weight/strength/edge" does Mithril place? I am about to make some from the alchemical laboratory (embarked on a map with NO copper, iron, clay or weapons material of any sort save for adamantine... but we do have a shitload of gold and lead!), and so I wondered where it was. Also, can you actually find it in the world or is it strictly a "magical" material?

Thanks!

//A, intrigued

EDIT: Nvm, I looked in the raws and calculated it myself. Hooray, I feel smart ^^

Mithril has a compressive yield/fracture of 1.5/2 million, a weight/density of 2900 (in solid form) and an edge of 70000. This places it between red steel and adamantine for the first, adamantine and iron for the second and red steel and adamantine again for the third.

Moon silver has a compressive yield/fracture of 1.034/1.379 million, a weight/density of 4000 (in solid form) and an edge of 40000. This places it on par with sun gold for the first, between mithril and iron for the second and between red and black steel for the third.

Or in short, here's what the tables look like with mithril and moon silver added:

By compressive yield/fracture:
Copper -> Cobalt -> Spellwood -> Black Bronze -> Bismuth Bronze -> Bronze -> Iron -> Sun Gold/Moon Silver -> Steel -> Black Steel -> Red Steel -> Mithril -> Adamantine

By weight/density:
Adamantine -> Mithril -> Moon Silver -> Iron -> Spellwood -> Sun Gold -> Steel -> Black Steel -> Red Steel -> Bismuth Bronze -> Bronze -> Cobalt -> Copper -> Black Bronze

By edge:
Spellwood -> Copper -> Cobalt -> Iron -> Bismuth bronze -> Black bronze -> Bronze -> Sun gold -> Steel -> Black steel -> Moon Silver -> Red steel -> Mithril -> Adamantine


EDIT2: Added moon silver as well.

Maybe you could add that Deon? Still thankful for a great mod ^^

//A, again

[_DivideByZero_]

Scratch that. All I had to do was open up the terminal and write "sudo dwarftherapist" and it got the permissions necessary to download the newest layout.

[Alarion]

Scratch that. All I had to do was open up the terminal and write "sudo dwarftherapist" and it got the permissions necessary to download the newest layout.

Makes me think of this.

//A, tired

[Raul]

Mithril has a compressive yield/fracture of 1.5/2 million, a weight/density of 2900 (in solid form) and an edge of 70000. This places it between red steel and adamantine for the first, adamantine and iron for the second and red steel and adamantine again for the third.

Moon silver has a compressive yield/fracture of 1.034/1.379 million, a weight/density of 4000 (in solid form) and an edge of 40000. This places it on par with sun gold for the first, between mithril and iron for the second and between red and black steel for the third.

Or in short, here's what the tables look like with mithril and moon silver added:

By compressive yield/fracture:
Copper -> Cobalt -> Spellwood -> Black Bronze -> Bismuth Bronze -> Bronze -> Iron -> Sun Gold/Moon Silver -> Steel -> Black Steel -> Red Steel -> Mithril -> Adamantine

By weight/density:
Adamantine -> Mithril -> Moon Silver -> Iron -> Spellwood -> Sun Gold -> Steel -> Black Steel -> Red Steel -> Bismuth Bronze -> Bronze -> Cobalt -> Copper -> Black Bronze

By edge:
Spellwood -> Copper -> Cobalt -> Iron -> Bismuth bronze -> Black bronze -> Bronze -> Sun gold -> Steel -> Black steel -> Moon Silver -> Red steel -> Mithril -> Adamantine

Thanks for the info, that's gonna be very useful!

[Alarion]

Quick question: Where in the scale of "weight/strength/edge" does Mithril place? I am about to make some from the alchemical laboratory (embarked on a map with NO copper, iron, clay or weapons material of any sort save for adamantine... but we do have a shitload of gold and lead!), and so I wondered where it was. Also, can you actually find it in the world or is it strictly a "magical" material?

Thanks!

//A, intrigued

EDIT: Nvm, I looked in the raws and calculated it myself. Hooray, I feel smart ^^

Mithril has a compressive yield/fracture of 1.5/2 million, a weight/density of 2900 (in solid form) and an edge of 70000. This places it between red steel and adamantine for the first, adamantine and iron for the second and red steel and adamantine again for the third.

Moon silver has a compressive yield/fracture of 1.034/1.379 million, a weight/density of 4000 (in solid form) and an edge of 40000. This places it on par with sun gold for the first, between mithril and iron for the second and between red and black steel for the third.

Or in short, here's what the tables look like with mithril and moon silver added:

By compressive yield/fracture:
Copper -> Cobalt -> Spellwood -> Black Bronze -> Bismuth Bronze -> Bronze -> Iron -> Sun Gold/Moon Silver -> Steel -> Black Steel -> Red Steel -> Mithril -> Adamantine

By weight/density:
Adamantine -> Mithril -> Moon Silver -> Iron -> Spellwood -> Sun Gold -> Steel -> Black Steel -> Red Steel -> Bismuth Bronze -> Bronze -> Cobalt -> Copper -> Black Bronze

By edge:
Spellwood -> Copper -> Cobalt -> Iron -> Bismuth bronze -> Black bronze -> Bronze -> Sun gold -> Steel -> Black steel -> Moon Silver -> Red steel -> Mithril -> Adamantine


EDIT2: Added moon silver as well.

Maybe you could add that Deon? Still thankful for a great mod ^^

//A, again

Thanks for the info, that's gonna be very useful!

Glad to help ^^

Also, updated quote with even more info. I'm beginning to understand how things work around here, and it's a fantastic feeling! Maybe I can yet become a modder, or at least help out with things?

^^

//A, happy to be of service.

[TomiTapio]

I slapped that onto the wiki. ( http://df-genesis.wikidot.com/metals )

Edit: aw man, don't quote giant chunks of text. Edit2: moon silver also on wiki page now.

Anyone feel like having a Challenge Fort?
Rule 1. May not wall off the outdoors. You can have a door and many traps. Let's assume siegers can break walls (but Toady hasn't implemented).
Rule 2. May not dig tunnels or rooms or caves. Dig only by channeling / open quarry style to get stones and ore. Good luck strip-mining down to the caverns!

This outdoors hut/castle embark should have better FPS as there's shorter distances and no chokepoints. And less stones to haul.
One theory says it's the stockpile count (testable by removing all piles), other theory says it's dorfs trying to replace worn clothes (testable by dorf civ never wearing clothes).


Edit3: Made an improved table to see what fps means in terms of player's time (minutes).

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

fps   year season month mins
5   1344   336   112
10   672   168   56
15   448   112   37
20   336   84   28
25   269   67   22
30   224   56   19
35   192   48   16
40   168   42   14
45   149   37   12
50   134   34   11
55   122   31   10
60   112   28   9
65   103   26   9
70   96   24   8
75   90   22   7
80   84   21   7
85   79   20   7
90   75   19   6
95   71   18   6
100   67   17   6
120   56   14   5
140   48   12   4
160   42   11   4
180   37   9   3
200   34   8   3

Edit4: updated http://df-genesis.wikidot.com/tips-and-advice somewhat.

[Alarion]

Edit: aw man, don't quote giant chunks of text.

I was just updating it with the info, like over in the "Signs you play DF too much" thread...

But really, I just came back to post it to an updated .chm file, here you go:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2192899/Genesis%20Manual.chm

Enjoy

//A, content

EDIT: Added the values of the metals ($60 and $300, same as Sun Gold and Adamantine basically.)