What program do you use?
i recently downloaded the program, how do you change instruments? Maybe I should start a Musecore how to thread?What program do you use?
Freakin' Musescore. At least they packed kinda decent sounds with the latest update. I can't really get anything else than freeware.
i recently downloaded the program, how do you change instruments? Maybe I should start a Musecore how to thread?What program do you use?
Freakin' Musescore. At least they packed kinda decent sounds with the latest update. I can't really get anything else than freeware.
So I have been trying to make some video game musics, specifically for some kind of indie RPG or whatnot. Here are a couple of tracks I made recently, dunno if they sound appropriate for video game stuff.I like these, they are calming, fitting for stores and town
RPG Store (https://soundcloud.com/dartenvos/rpg-store/s-mW7vToivGRw)
RPG Town (https://soundcloud.com/dartenvos/rpg-town/s-GI8JRT3fw1U)
Also I realized I use reverse cymbals way too much for transitions ><a, been looking for other effective transition methods.
Sounds nice!
What comes to my mind is maybe it's too melody-driven rather than ambient, if you understand... That's absolutely okay, it just seems to me like a little bit too complicated for a backround music, eh... I don't know, it's hard to express. But both of these are inspired works, mind you. By composition alone, I think it's really good!
There is an ancient Czech old game, Dračí Historie (Dragon History), founder of Amanita Design worked on it in his days of youth. Some Radovan Kramář guy did the soundtrack (and dubbed the main character), and I just adore it. It is really old game, so the sound quality is, well, let's say dated, but the soundtrack really fits. It is really simple, yet it contributes so much to atmosphere of individual areas and the game as a whole. Check it out, I think some guy has a playilist on YouTube, but I think it's way better when you try the game. If you're interested, check it out, it's freeware, you just need an emulator. Some fans also did english dub.
Also the name of the guy, Radovan Kramář, even though it's a coincidence, has a really fitting name. The game is about fairy tales and it's comedic, and in Czech his name is just so appropriate. Radovan (radovat=to be happy) and Kramář (the guy at market stall, a trader, also associated with music). I tried to track this guy down, and it seems he now sells quitars made of cigarette boxes or something like that. Red Bird Instruments at Brno, if it's the same guy.
Check it out! I think it deserves more attention.
So I have been trying to make some video game musics, specifically for some kind of indie RPG or whatnot. Here are a couple of tracks I made recently, dunno if they sound appropriate for video game stuff.I like these, they are calming, fitting for stores and town
RPG Store (https://soundcloud.com/dartenvos/rpg-store/s-mW7vToivGRw)
RPG Town (https://soundcloud.com/dartenvos/rpg-town/s-GI8JRT3fw1U)
Also I realized I use reverse cymbals way too much for transitions ><a, been looking for other effective transition methods.
Posting to follow! Music production is always something I've been interested in but have never really taken the plunge on. Ableton (one of the big industry tools for production) extended their free trial from 30 to 90 days for the current crisis so I've been playing with that. I'm starting to understand how to generate sounds with it, but am at a total loss at how to start making those sounds into actual songs or even beats, really. It's a heavy learning curve!
Posting to follow! Music production is always something I've been interested in but have never really taken the plunge on. Ableton (one of the big industry tools for production) extended their free trial from 30 to 90 days for the current crisis so I've been playing with that. I'm starting to understand how to generate sounds with it, but am at a total loss at how to start making those sounds into actual songs or even beats, really. It's a heavy learning curve!
Heya! There are a lot of really awesome resources out there (youtube videos are especially accessible, and there's a LOT of excellent stuff on there). I'd recommend first watching some videos on basic music theory as that's probably the most foundational starting point. This looks to be a good one. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgaTLrZGlk0)
And here's a list of youtube channels that have really good educational content:
Signals Music Studio (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRDDHLvQb8HjE2r7_ZuNtWA/videos)
Andrew Huang (https://www.youtube.com/user/songstowearpantsto/videos)
8-bit Music Theory (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeZLO2VgbZHeDcongKzzfOw)
Composerily (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Ujq8PBm0MWraaXd8MsIAQ)
Mangold Project (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUyeh8X37t_xJ77M6gHb1PQ)
Big Z (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgXmRIt_2Jwr0bwPTmocRsA/videos)
I have so many videos on my watch-later list and I just keep adding more every day, haha.
I use FL Studio so I can't help much with Ableton, but there are tons of tutorials for that as well.
Anyway my starting tips would be, try constructing a basic chord progression, and then add a basic rhythm to it (kick-snare-kick-snare is a simple but effective one). And from there you can try adding a melody to play over the chords, and evolve the song from there. For me it's partly intuitive, partly experience. Oh one thing that's extremely helpful is to take a track that you like and try to remake it (at least the structure of it), you can learn a lot that way. If you have any questions I'd be happy to help. Best of luck!
Posting to follow! Music production is always something I've been interested in but have never really taken the plunge on. Ableton (one of the big industry tools for production) extended their free trial from 30 to 90 days for the current crisis so I've been playing with that. I'm starting to understand how to generate sounds with it, but am at a total loss at how to start making those sounds into actual songs or even beats, really. It's a heavy learning curve!
I would advise learning with an instrument. Do you have some experience with instruments?
You see, I as an organist apprentice have to learn a load of stuff, like some basic composition, music history, improvisation, I must learn to read sheets quickly... But aside from this "required education", I can tell you that by simply playing music on instruments for some time one can learn so much about music itself. Though, I grew up with piano and have some basic theory, as I understand it you do not have any prior experience, is it so?
In any case, what I would advise to do, pick some existing songs you like, and try to deconstruct them. Try to find some structures, themes, ideas. Chord progression and chords in general are something really valuable and helpful. Wish you luck!
Yes yes yes!
I know I'd be interested in collaborating with someone. I'm also doing mostly electronic music, but I also dabble in metal. This is the latest thing I've done:
https://elkbird.bandcamp.com/album/lens
I've started a few collabs with people that I thought made great stuff, but most of them fizzled before we could release anything. I'd be down to try again!
Ah, ok. Btw you didn't PM me yet!
Had some fun with "arps"! Here's what I have so far:This is dope! For sure, every one of those tracks in the folder is there because I didn't know where to go with them, but I like where you went.
https://soundcloud.com/dartenvos/collab_arps/s-mkEDb5lAq0H
The vocal samples are kinda just random filler. And I'm not entirely sure what to do with the build up in the 2nd half of the song, I was gonna lead it into another drop but it didn't seem to want to do that ._.a
I made something, but the computer thst it’s on is experiencing unexpected kernel mode traps, which likely means that my drivers need to be updatedAhhh fix it, I want to listen!
By the way Zebra I sent you a dropbox link with some of my abandoned/unreleased stuff, not sure if you were able to receive it or if the PM system didn't work again o.oa
Ah no worries, just making sure the PM system worked.By the way Zebra I sent you a dropbox link with some of my abandoned/unreleased stuff, not sure if you were able to receive it or if the PM system didn't work again o.oa
I did! things have been busy so I've been sluggish getting around to it, but I will!
Here is my newly released single called "Snow Day" :) (https://soundcloud.com/dartenvos/snow-day)
I am not at all familiar with psalters and psalms
I turned Rick's Astley's Never Gonna to some medieval folk song, it's pretty hillarious.
I turned Rick's Astley's Never Gonna to some medieval folk song, it's pretty hillarious.
Oh that's cool, I recently discovered that making medieval covers from modern songs is actually a thing, called "Bardcore" or "Tavernwave" haha. Like this one (Lady Gaga's Bad Romance) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2zpbcW-h-c&ab_channel=HildegardvonBlingin%27), really funny and quite well done. On a side note, something about the medieval flute sound is really enchanting.
Hmm I don't really listen to much mainstream stuff either, but I'm curious what you mean by "doing things" to the ideas present there. For me I'll listen to popular stuff if the radio is the only option, but I usually won't go seek it out. Much prefer the electronic/dance side of things (am surprised there are no radio stations here that even play electronic stuff!), more recently melodic dubstep has really caught my ear. Syncopated rhythms and crazy sound design (with catchy melodies) can be so refreshing, but I guess it's still too unconventional for the general public.
So if I may post something too...Nice, it sounds kind of Christmassy :)
Mind you I have absolutely no musical background, beside trying to learn piano for a few month now. I guess it's quite plain, and may hardly qualify as music, but somehow I'm still proud enough of it to have it as my ringtone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhXyckJDNcQ
So if I may post something too...
Mind you I have absolutely no musical background, beside trying to learn piano for a few month now. I guess it's quite plain, and may hardly qualify as music, but somehow I'm still proud enough of it to have it as my ringtone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhXyckJDNcQ
And don't worry about not having a musical backround. There's a certain Canadian guy, Eric Vigneault, hadn't one either. He's one of the best composers I know, he absolutely rocks at building atmosphere.
He made soundtrack for Steppenwolf: The X-Creatures Project, not sure if you know it. Ancient series of Flash puzzle adventure games, still adore them. He put the soundtrack to both YouTube and SoundCloud, much to fan ecstasy (myself included) . Check them out! Even if you aren't chased by Mokele Mbembe at the moment, I think you'll appreciate them.
And don't worry about not having a musical backround. There's a certain Canadian guy, Eric Vigneault, hadn't one either. He's one of the best composers I know, he absolutely rocks at building atmosphere.
He made soundtrack for Steppenwolf: The X-Creatures Project, not sure if you know it. Ancient series of Flash puzzle adventure games, still adore them. He put the soundtrack to both YouTube and SoundCloud, much to fan ecstasy (myself included) . Check them out! Even if you aren't chased by Mokele Mbembe at the moment, I think you'll appreciate them.
Funny thing! Éric Vigneault teaches music in the city where I live and I didn't even know him! I do know Steppenwolf though: it's a cool game, the controls are just a bit clunky. But I never finished the series, maybe I should. And I'm certainly going to try his music!
Nice, it sounds kind of Christmassy :)
It does, it's a music :)
For not having a background, it's quite a feat, good work!
And don't worry about not having a musical backround. There's a certain Canadian guy, Eric Vigneault, hadn't one either. He's one of the best composers I know, he absolutely rocks at building atmosphere.
He made soundtrack for Steppenwolf: The X-Creatures Project, not sure if you know it. Ancient series of Flash puzzle adventure games, still adore them. He put the soundtrack to both YouTube and SoundCloud, much to fan ecstasy (myself included) . Check them out! Even if you aren't chased by Mokele Mbembe at the moment, I think you'll appreciate them.
Yesterday, we had a session, fellow organist apprentices and I, with a experienced organist that teaches singing on a theology school. He told us about choral, psalms and the origins of the form we know today.
If you ever saw early music notation, you can see it was way different from what we have now. Originally, it was just a collection of dots, lines, commas, various marks above the words. These did not hint any melody at all, but they were trying to show you stress on the words, it was very loosely tied with the text you were singing. Because it was more about the reading of the text, just in a more fancy, yet honest way. It was expected that the singer would know the melody. They did not need to write down something that you could easily remember, so they didn't record melodies.
Then, there were the first notes, you've probably seen somewhere, these square-like notes, on four lines instead of five, they all look alike, some other symbols may show up... These were being written down, and were psalms most of the time, for the breviary prayers (daily prayers of the church) for monasteries, mostly monks did sing these. And these were melodies, and melodies only. It didn't matter, if you began singing on C or A#, that didn't matter there. There were many "modes" you could use for the texts, like we have minor and major keys, there were like nine concepts like these back then, imagine the vast ocean of possibilities! This type of of notation is still being used in our liturgy, and our modern psalm melodies, like those from mr. Korejs I've shown you before, try to emulate these ancient tunes.
Thought you might find it interesting. Hope I made some sense.
New underwater-themed track I've been working on. (https://soundcloud.com/dartenvos/into-the-depths-2/s-aVJngNb0Ws5) I think I may end up making this the first part of a series of aquatic-sounding tracks or something~
Now there's this recurring scene of Balto having a weird nightmare, and the track for that's just great, just had to share it with you guys. It's intense, it has this mysterious native American moments, joy to listen to, actually reminds me lot of Steppenwolf. And it perfectly fits in with the scene, I consider this a great example of how music can enchance visuals and vice versa, but I couldn't find it anywhere. So at least the track - here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHgqD5f4oyo). It's a mashup of all the dream tracks, so is a bit disjointed, but I think just the first two minutes should give you the picture.
I've heard that James Horner composed the score for the first movie, but I saw that one like once in my life, we did not own that one, so I don't really remember the music. But knowing James Horner, it surely must've been great. I know him for the soundtrack of Willow, an old Lucasfilms fantasy, and it rocks. Have a listen. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df-a0Bl0b74) If you didn't saw Willow, I strongly recommend, the music also fits perfectly with the action.
Here's another banger, another unforgettable motif. (https://youtu.be/a-2scaPPrOM) Now here the ambience is a bigger problem, this is pretty dramatic scene with a storming river. Very short, but very memorable.
By the way, you know FF's soundtrack well? Because I have a song I don't have the name of, but I'm pretty sure it's from FF. I never played them personally, but heard many great tracks in Warcraft 3 user campaigns. I managed to look up all of them but this one. If you think you could help me, let me know.
I did a thing, took a Commander Keen track (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR4Jl7cf_o4&t) and made a ballad out of it.
Behold. (https://soundcloud.com/vojtech-peyerl/balladoftightness/s-fbqv7nAw9J5)
The recording's not ideal, but hope you'll enjoy.
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/6tjd361wr7o39e5/Experimenting%202.mp3?dl=0
I like to play music sometimes.
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/6tjd361wr7o39e5/Experimenting%202.mp3?dl=0
I like to play music sometimes.
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Hey that's pretty nice, did you write it or is it a pre-existing song? Either way, it's very well performed, I especially like how gently you play it, that's something I never had in me playing piano :D Good work!
(Kawaii Future Bass EDM): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTJD69IRjvE&pp=sAQA
(Kawaii Future Bass EDM): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTJD69IRjvE&pp=sAQA
Don't know anything about the genre, but that sounded like a quite balanced track.
My 3rd track released on youtube just now! (EDM / Glitch Hop) (https://youtu.be/JyuczoNp_UE)I like this
Thanks Naturegirl!My 3rd track released on youtube just now! (EDM / Glitch Hop) (https://youtu.be/JyuczoNp_UE)I like this
i have to agree. This The Ghost and the Machine is a nice jam.Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
I was messing around and started making a videogame inspired song. Not a titlescreen kind of theme, but more of a level one track.That's cool, I like the vibes for the first one. Reminiscent of some SNES RPGs I used to play, like Breath of Fire.
EDIT: drums are hard
https://soundcloud.com/scoopdjm/reluctant-beginning/s-9sBlYH2Jofk?si=7305e2173b6b4ffa97b3289320767754
EDIT:
I also made a menu theme inspired by MGS1
https://soundcloud.com/scoopdjm/menu-music/s-5TRGzPTIves?si=11dba017d1274d928dc9a3b40e5fdc24
Thanks dude, I made a fuller chiptune song (that sounds a lot better)
https://soundcloud.com/scoopdjm/terrible-feast?si=77049acd56f646a192366759f66a06a5
I too was working on some new tracks recently, as well as remastering old ones, translating some songs, wasn't able to finish all the projects as of yet. But there is one I can post progress of.
Qálkr koqelev (https://soundcloud.com/vojtech-peyerl/qalkr-koqelev/s-PgtTyamvO0C?si=596bb4089559486aab64bce41f345a9b), a song about kvaksulu conquest overseas. This is part of the instrumental, after this should come the more aggressive "chorus" part, with a bit of a turn in terms of melody and overall feel, but that's yet to be mixed. Hope you'll enjoy.
Said it before and I'll say it again, this is some good stuff, BB. It's confident, has nice ambience to it but is also interesting in terms of melodies, there's an idea behind it.Thanks! It's funny that most people who I've had listen to my tracks have had similar comments on my melodies. I really don't think much about them when composing, but I'm quite content how they turn out taking into consideration that I have basically no understanding of music theory and such.
The Baron/Badger one did put a smile on my face.
Have yet to listen to the album, but my hopes are pretty high ;)It's quite different than my "newer" tracks. More of a old school demoscene/keygen chiptune vibe to it with bits and pieces of melodies stolen from game and movie soundtracks. And I really didn't spend much time composing it (in fact I spent waaay more time doing the accompanying artwork), but the few who have heard it have mostly liked it, I guess.
Qálkr koqelev (https://soundcloud.com/vojtech-peyerl/qalkr-koqelev/s-PgtTyamvO0C?si=596bb4089559486aab64bce41f345a9b), a song about kvaksulu conquest overseas. This is part of the instrumental, after this should come the more aggressive "chorus" part, with a bit of a turn in terms of melody and overall feel, but that's yet to be mixed. Hope you'll enjoy.
Said it before and I'll say it again, this is some good stuff, BB. It's confident, has nice ambience to it but is also interesting in terms of melodies, there's an idea behind it.Thanks! It's funny that most people who I've had listen to my tracks have had similar comments on my melodies. I really don't think much about them when composing, but I'm quite content how they turn out taking into consideration that I have basically no understanding of music theory and such.
Qálkr koqelev (https://soundcloud.com/vojtech-peyerl/qalkr-koqelev/s-PgtTyamvO0C?si=596bb4089559486aab64bce41f345a9b), a song about kvaksulu conquest overseas. This is part of the instrumental, after this should come the more aggressive "chorus" part, with a bit of a turn in terms of melody and overall feel, but that's yet to be mixed. Hope you'll enjoy.
Ooh, I liked this one. Looking to hear more at some point!
Reminds me alot of Toccata and Fugue in D Minor
Love the way Takvu Torake evolves. Probably my favorite so far. Is that all with with mostly free vsts?
Hey guys! Just dropping in to say I just released my new track Neon Eve. It's a funky electronic / chiptune / digital fusion track. You can stream it on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/track/3nPpdUDMYhkVhiCIFOXDQe?si=3a24e1c5353a4225), Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGlF6O6KMnA), or another platform (https://li.sten.to/neoneve). Hope you enjoy. Happy holidays!Wow, Really full and professional sounding mix! I'm not really familiar with digital fusion/chiptune, but this is impressive.
Thank you! ^_^Hey guys! Just dropping in to say I just released my new track Neon Eve. It's a funky electronic / chiptune / digital fusion track. You can stream it on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/track/3nPpdUDMYhkVhiCIFOXDQe?si=3a24e1c5353a4225), Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGlF6O6KMnA), or another platform (https://li.sten.to/neoneve). Hope you enjoy. Happy holidays!Wow, Really full and professional sounding mix! I'm not really familiar with digital fusion/chiptune, but this is impressive.
Just curious what DAWs are you all using? Is there service/provider you recommend for publishing to spotify, streaming services?I use FL Studio as my DAW. And for distributing to streaming services, I use Distrokid. It's $20 a year which is pretty good, though if you also want the ability to submit to Spotify editorial playlists it seems you need the $40/year package.
Good stuff, Meimie, liked this one too.TY <3!
Hey guys! Just dropping in to say I just released my new track Neon Eve. It's a funky electronic / chiptune / digital fusion track. You can stream it on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/track/3nPpdUDMYhkVhiCIFOXDQe?si=3a24e1c5353a4225), Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGlF6O6KMnA), or another platform (https://li.sten.to/neoneve). Hope you enjoy. Happy holidays!
Hey guys! Just dropping in to say I just released my new track Neon Eve. It's a funky electronic / chiptune / digital fusion track. You can stream it on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/track/3nPpdUDMYhkVhiCIFOXDQe?si=3a24e1c5353a4225), Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGlF6O6KMnA), or another platform (https://li.sten.to/neoneve). Hope you enjoy. Happy holidays!
Just listened to this, sounded good! Had a soothing/pleasing sound, well mixed and yet again over all very balanced. Reminded me quite a lot of some old demoscene and chiptune stuff, which is always a good thing in my books. Waiting to hear more from you!
(Also, subbed your Youtube channel.)
So I tried making a fantasy theme song, turned into a little mini-medley, but ultimately contained it within the recurring motifs so it's not too disjointed.Nice! Definitely puts me into the fantasy mood. I really like the main theme, and the part at 1:33 is a neat changeup - really strong motif there imo, with a bit of a combat feel.
Here it is (https://soundcloud.com/vojtech-peyerl/mans-calling/s-VCpxl3ZHOMU?utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing), the main theme is between 0:45-1:05. Hope y'all enjoy!
Titled 'horror'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--upaYPue7k
Titled 'horror'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--upaYPue7k
That was quite nice! Would definitely fit as some ambient background track, has the mood.
Sweet, kind of has a metroid feel to it to me.Titled 'horror'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--upaYPue7k
That was quite nice! Would definitely fit as some ambient background track, has the mood.
Did some experimenting in BeepBox (https://www.beepbox.co/) today.
There are no rules.
"there's a reason why rock/metal covers of pre-existing songs are popular " <- I don't think that's entirely because of the quality of the composition, I think much of that is because people like hearing stuff they are already familiar with. I mean....rock/metal covers exist for Justin Bieber
I mean....rock/metal covers exist for Justin Bieber
MeimeFan88, kinda curious how are you creating/recording the vocals, I'm assuming that's not you singing in various parts?
The problem I find with going on with which you as the composer like, if you're to carry on on the path, that likely won't last, and that's just how things are, but the better focus I find in what others not just can, but will enjoy, because such a guarantee is achievable. It is a matter of how serious one is about the whole deal I suppose, but it is worth more pusuing something long-lasting and purposeful, rather than amusing yourself for a fleeting while.
Hello everyone, I am new to the forum and was wondering if this is still the best thread to post homegrown music to?
What I was saying was that in a sense, all music is subjective, because it requires a subject in order to be experienced. Whether you're focusing on a specific style of music or the theoretical framework of music as a whole, it's all dependent on you as a subject who is experiencing it. One cannot say that something is musically good without perceiving it as so for themselves.
In that sense, one's enjoyment of it becomes the proof that the theory is valid.
And one can't really say that their way of perceiving is somehow lesser or wrong.
I sometimes get into the mindset of creating something that I think the world will like, or that certain labels I'm submitting to will like
I recently finished a first version of a DF fan song, linked here: https://soundcloud.com/shockinglytalldwarf/gorlaks-song?si=14cadf0916a342a09368972f45bbea8a&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing (https://soundcloud.com/shockinglytalldwarf/gorlaks-song?si=14cadf0916a342a09368972f45bbea8a&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing)
I was wondering if anyone could give feedback or advice, it would be greatly appreciated!
It is supposed to be a song for the lowly-yet mysterious Gorlak, but it might sound a bit too dramatic. What do all y'all think?
(Sorry if this discussion is a bit of a derail xD)
@Quaksna: But what makes a song well-crafted is in the perception of the listener, whether that's the audience or the composer. Surely you too aim to make music you perceive as good?
Surely you too aim to make music you perceive as good? How would you judge a piece if not by your own ear?
I recently finished a first version of a DF fan song
and yet, you can still pick apart good and bad music
If it's the perception of the listener that makes this "idea" well crafted and realized, can I potentially put myself above the masters (or be so proclaimed by others)?
But it paid of in the end, the perception then was a mirage, but the decision to put better harmony remained, and it won't deteriorate, because it is proven to work, that's what music theory is all about.
(Sorry if this discussion is a bit of a derail xD)
Oh no I enjoy it ;)
and yet, you can still pick apart good and bad musicRight, and it is the you that is picking apart good and bad music. Without the you - the perceiver of the music - there is no one to judge the music. What is the meaning of beauty if there's no one to perceive it? In fact, how can anyone say it is beautiful without witnessing its beauty for themselves?
If the listener truly in their heart of hearts enjoys this "idea", then it can't be argued that there's something to it that is appealing. Essentially, perception of beauty is the only real clue we have to it. There's no ultimate divine arbiter who decides whether something is good or not, other than the instrument of our perception.
It seems that it is the "paying off in the end", which is essentially the thing finally appealing to your senses, that redeems the process. If it had never paid off, would you still have valued it? Why would you still have valued it? Also I would venture to guess that the thing had always appealed to you, you simply did not have the experience/proficiency at your initial stage to execute it in the proper way.
Let me ask you this, what is the meaning of beauty when it's so fickle anyone can define it how they want? Isn't it meaningless then? You didn't exactly help there yourself if that's what you claim :P That's why I see this as the most sad, defeatist perspective, why would anyone care then? What is the point of music, if you cannot ensure quality anyway?
The meaning of beauty is the appreciation that the perceiver has for the beauty
One can't say "it's beautiful", one can only say "others tell me it is beautiful." It is like a blind man hearing about the ocean. It's second-hand knowledge at best
Beauty can only be known by the perceiving of it
As far as the objective meaning of beauty, or the point of music, if there is any, I can't claim to know it for certain
Yea, there're two criteria here. Firstly, on an individual basis art is enjoyed subjectively. Eye of the beholder, etc.
Zooming out, there are certain forms and modes which encourage wider appreciation.
Therefore, some things in art are objectively 'good' if only because the human mind seems prewired to appreciate them. Bit this does not discount the wildcard which is the individual.
Time will tell, and focusing on one's own perception will ultimately have little to nothing to show.
Yea, there're two criteria here. Firstly, on an individual basis art is enjoyed subjectively. Eye of the beholder, etc.
Zooming out, there are certain forms and modes which encourage wider appreciation.
Therefore, some things in art are objectively 'good' if only because the human mind seems prewired to appreciate them. Bit this does not discount the wildcard which is the individual.
I get what you're saying regarding focusing on the objective rules in music, and I largely agree with that sentiment. I think human minds and sensory organs have evolved in a way that makes certain sounds / patterns / paradigms / etc more appealing or relatable, and it probably applies to a large amount of the population. I feel you will always find outliers though - one obvious example is people with hearing disabilities/irregularities, or certain types of severe mental anomalies. These people will likely perceive music differently than most. And one can't really say that their way of perceiving is somehow lesser or wrong.
What is the thing that is ultimately to be shown though? Is it not appreciation of the music, whether it be ones own or that of others? And so does the fruit not ultimately lie in the eventual (and favorable) perception of it? What sort of appreciation can one feel for music, if not the appeal music has to ones' senses?
I got the impression you do not believe there is objective merit to be found in art, and it is all contained within the perception. I say said perception is merely the channel by which we experience something of inherent quality - to how extent can we recognize that depends.
You of course have to be able to perceive something in order to experience its quality
They may very well be perceiving things as such, and just because 99% of the population agrees with me, doesn't automatically make them wrong.
I like the chord progressions! Don't know what a choral is haha. Not super acquainted with classical music tbh. Although I was looking through my old folders the other day and found a classical thing (https://on.soundcloud.com/cBr8X) I did a few years ago when I was making stock music. And I don't actually hate it haha. Was going for like an orchestral fantasy vibe, a la LotR or something.
Finally finished something yesterday :P
Here's a little song about an ancient big city. (https://soundcloud.com/vojtech-peyerl/spires-of-yore?si=89e96b17402b40ceb17da9e58bc7bdb2&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing) The first part has the characters enter it, and take in the grand walls and towers. The second half has them reach the inside, with all the markets, fairs and joys, also it uses one of the old medieval modes I talked about, was very fun to make.
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But I got to buy a new mic ^^ still,I'm like 2 months late on replying to this. What kinda Mic are you looking at getting? I can be a bit of a gear nut at times, so definitely curious :)
I recorded some stoner metal, just guitar and a drum machine. If you don't have the time or inclination to listen to more than 1 track the best one is 'the answer is neither'.
https://soundcloud.com/prime-zero-82895054/sets/isntthatwhatitis?si=4e34bbb65ff846adb8967ace158e23a2&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing
I recorded some stoner metal, just guitar and a drum machine. If you don't have the time or inclination to listen to more than 1 track the best one is 'the answer is neither'.Nice!I listened to all 4. I'm definitely into Electric Wizard, Sleep, Melvins, High On fire, Kyuss, Sabbath etc etc (more on par than Dream Theatre :P ). This actually seems a little faster than most stoner metal. How are you recording the guitar,? Sounds like this were recorded on different days, since the sound/mix is a different on each. I definitely hear a fuzz pedal but can't tell if it's a real one or if its from some IR, a VST, or Pod/FX setup. Drum parts sound great what did you use, more complex and inline than what I'm able to throw together writing midi or selecting groves . The beginning of "The answer is neither" also reminds me of something and it's driving me crazy, and yeah that was probably my favorite. All of it sounds down tuned pretty far too
https://soundcloud.com/prime-zero-82895054/sets/isntthatwhatitis?si=4e34bbb65ff846adb8967ace158e23a2&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing
10/8 works surprisingly well there, I have to say.
...You could probably quite easily add a short section where it switches to 4/4 or 6/8 to confuse the listener.
...You could probably quite easily add a short section where it switches to 4/4 or 6/8 to confuse the listener.
before the drawn out uwu that violently assailed my soul
...You could probably quite easily add a short section where it switches to 4/4 or 6/8 to confuse the listener.
Hey I was a lil' confused as is this what you'd call a jumpscare :P
I really like it, though I'll be completely honest if there was a version with more a traditional rhythm I'd probably listen to it over the one there (but that's purely subjective opinion) I still think it works. Does give it a more unique (intentionally?) robotic feel
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I think the reason these interesting rhytms can fall apart very easily is they can turn up very uneven, or rather the rest of the tracks get stacked in an awkward way that doesn't flow, you can feel the odd additional beats but here, it's perfectly balanced, you wouldn't tell. Very well realized intent.