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Dwarf Fortress => DF Modding => Topic started by: Bohandas on January 14, 2011, 04:17:50 pm

Title: Language Token Help?
Post by: Bohandas on January 14, 2011, 04:17:50 pm

If its not too much trouble could somebody clarfiy the use of the language tokens in language_words.txt?

These are the tokens in question, as copied from string dump and the 40d language (http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/40d:Language) article (there doesn't appear to be a DF2010 language article):

Spoiler: List of Language Tokens (click to show/hide)

ADJ
NOUN
PREFIX
VERB
ADJ_DIST
THE_NOUN_SING
THE_NOUN_PLUR
THE_COMPOUND_NOUN_SING
THE_COMPOUND_NOUN_PLUR
THE_COMPOUND_ADJ
OF_NOUN_SING
OF_NOUN_PLUR
FRONT_COMPOUND_NOUN_SING
FRONT_COMPOUND_NOUN_PLUR
REAR_COMPOUND_NOUN_SING
REAR_COMPOUND_NOUN_PLUR
FRONT_COMPOUND_ADJ
REAR_COMPOUND_ADJ
FRONT_COMPOUND_PREFIX
THE_COMPOUND_PREFIX
STANDARD_VERB

Now, I understand the first four on that list and I think that I understand a handful of the other ones (mainly relating to noun usage) based on magmawiki article (http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/40d:Language), but it only covers a handful of tokens and I'm not sure what on earth is even meant by a "compound adjective" (THE_COMPOUND_ADJ, etc.) or "compound prefix" (THE_COMPOUND_PREFIX, etc.), or what differentiates a STANDARD_VERB from a nonstandard(?) verb.

Can anybody explain this?

EDIT: I particularly need to know what STANDARD_VERB does. I can figure out, approximately, what the others do...
...but What does "[STANDARD_VERB]" do???

Title: Re: Language Token Help?
Post by: Bohandas on January 15, 2011, 01:07:39 am

Anybody???

Title: Re: Language Token Help?
Post by: Bohandas on January 15, 2011, 01:49:00 pm

OK, so here's what I DO know:

• the [WORD:] token begins defining a new word. Its argument is the word that will be used in the raws
• The [NOUN::] token defines the given word's noun form. Its first argument is  the singular form of the noun, its second argument is the noun's plural form (or may be left blank if the noun doesn't have a distinct plural form)
• [THE_NOUN_SING] allows a noun to be used as a word following "the"
• [OF_NOUN_SING] allows a noun to be used as a word following "of"
• [FRONT_COMPOUND_NOUN_SING] lets the noun be used as the first half of a compound word
• [REAR_COMPOUND_NOUN_SING] lets the noun be used as the second/end half of a compound word
• [THE_COMPOUND_NOUN_SING] lets the noun be used as the first half of a compound word which immediately follows the word "the"
• The "..._NOUN_PLUR]" tokens work similarly to the singular "..._NOUN_SING]" tokens, but with plural forms
• Adjectives are defined with the [ADJ:] token, whose argument is the word that is used in game
• [ADJ_DIST:] defines how early an adjective comes in a string of adjectives, with higher numbered arguments making the word come earlier
• Every prefix in language words has both of the following tokens:
         [FRONT_COMPOUND_PREFIX]
        [THE_COMPOUND_PREFIX]
  

Title: Re: Language Token Help?
Post by: Bohandas on January 21, 2011, 01:12:53 pm

Seriously? Nobody knows what the other tokens do?

I'd settle for just an explanation of the [STANDARD_VERB] token as that's the only one whose function I really have no idea of at all.

Title: Re: Language Token Help?
Post by: Bohandas on January 24, 2011, 12:55:20 pm

Nobody knows what the [STANDARD_VERB] token does in language_words.txt??? :'(

Title: Re: Language Token Help?
Post by: Bohandas on January 24, 2011, 09:40:03 pm

Here is a partial list of verbs without the [STANDARD_VERB] tag, if that helps anybody figure out the tag's meaning:

Spoiler: Partial List of Non-Standard Verbs (click to show/hide)

Attack
Mortify
Deify
Adventure
Lament
Eviscerate
Disembowel
Create
Delight
Clarify         
Wield 
Bejewel
Perfect
Imprison
Bewilder
Meander
Connect
Influence
Dominate
Cooperate
Cremate
Incinerate
Ignite
Entangle
Organize
Purify
Repute
Exalt
Elevate
Distinguish
Celebrate
Diminish
Deteriorate
Abate
Evaporate
Disappear
Defend
Blockade
Barricade
Socket
Excavate
Exit
Assmble
Culminate
Brutalize
Sacrifice
Reward
Combat
Assault
Afflict
Infect
Escort
Stabilize
Neutralize
...
Drawl
Drain
Crucify

By the way, I didn't even get halfway through language_words when compiling this list, but there's  at least three time as many [STANDARD_VERB]s.

Can somebody PLEASE help figure out what the [STANDARD_VERB] tag does? Its already apparent that most (but not all) of the verbs without it are somewhat unusual, but I can't quite pin down its actual specific effect.

Title: Re: Language Token Help?
Post by: Bohandas on January 25, 2011, 04:52:04 pm

Could somebody please at least venture a guess or make some sort of tangentally related comment or something?

Title: Re: Language Token Help?
Post by: Veylon on March 27, 2011, 12:04:25 am

I just bumped into this question myself.

The best I can figure, by playing with the name maker and the raws, is that standard verbs can be used in the front and rear compound of titles, whereas non-standard verbs can only be used in the 'of' section. For instance, you might see 'AgedWagons' or 'Towers of Crucifying', but never 'DrainedBeers'. Unless you add [STANDARD_VERB] to the verb; then it's okay.

So really, I guess all it does is allow it to show up in certain parts of the titles. Yay?