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Title: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: C4lv1n on August 11, 2010, 11:51:16 pm
I am refering to the Google Trends page here:
http://www.google.com/trends?q=Dwarf+Fortress&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

The Regions section looks like this:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I just thought I'd share.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: riffraffselbow on August 12, 2010, 12:03:47 am
It's all proportional.

Still, interesting.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Vercingetorix on August 12, 2010, 12:08:40 am
An interesting sidenote is that all of those top countries listed are also the homes of the cultures that gave us the Scandinavian/Norse mythological basis for the dwarves featured in Dwarf Fortress.  And, of course, all of the others like Australia, the US, New Zealand and Canada were all settled by people from those regions that brought that culture with them (not to mention Tolkien was from the UK).  A mystery in that case is why Germany isn't also featured on that list along with the cultures it influenced.

Whether that's just coincidence, I don't know, but it is interesting.

Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Ieb on August 12, 2010, 01:21:52 am
Must be because we Finn's find the dorfs to be so similar to ourselves.
Often drinking, and often overcome with stupid suicidal behavior or violent and suicidal behavior.

Just like with that sauna thing that labelled us all as stupid barbarians who are stupid and barbarians.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Shagomir on August 12, 2010, 04:06:33 am
Must be because we Finn's find the dorfs to be so similar to ourselves.
Often drinking, and often overcome with stupid suicidal behavior or violent and suicidal behavior.

Just like with that sauna thing that labelled us all as stupid barbarians who are stupid and barbarians.

Even though I am a mutt like most others that live in the US, I especially cherish my Finnish ancestry (1/4th! woo!), and it is probably to blame for my deep love of Dwarf Fortress. The only other people I know brave/crazy enough to play DF have Finnish ancestry, too. Strange.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Rilder on August 12, 2010, 04:15:31 am
Must be because we Finn's find the dorfs to be so similar to ourselves.
Often drinking, and often overcome with stupid suicidal behavior or violent and suicidal behavior.

Not to mention the Finnish, like the Dwarves, sometimes end up as total badasses. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_H%C3%A4yh%C3%A4)
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Alastar on August 12, 2010, 04:27:40 am
I agree that it definitely fits :)

Not being on that list already is a sign that I should try to introduce more fellow Germans to it - I'd like to keep us fond of drink, industry and overengineering.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Medicine Man on August 12, 2010, 05:11:20 am
W00t!Australia likes DF!
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Digital Hellhound on August 12, 2010, 05:15:32 am
And yet, I can't get any of my friends to actually try DF out.

Maybe we're just good at doing google searches.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Tormy on August 12, 2010, 05:37:13 am
I am refering to the Google Trends page here:
http://www.google.com/trends?q=Dwarf+Fortress&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

The Regions section looks like this:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I just thought I'd share.

Just a note: Finns are obsessed with computer games. :D Just take a look at the various FPS gaming communities [multiplayer], like CS or CS:S. The number of Finnish gamers is superdwarvenly huge.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: cyks on August 12, 2010, 05:38:31 am
I have spoke to a few mixed german and polish crowds and I hardly ever get positive responses about dwarf fort.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Urist McKing on August 12, 2010, 07:22:44 am
I have spoke to a few mixed german and polish crowds and I hardly ever get positive responses about dwarf fort.
Thats because they are heretics and need to be purged in the Dwarf Emperor's name.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Il Palazzo on August 12, 2010, 07:28:37 am
I have spoke to a few mixed german and polish crowds and I hardly ever get positive responses about dwarf fort.
Thats because they are heretics and need to be purged in the Dwarf Emperor's name.
Watch out or somebody will purge you.

@cyks: you spoke to the wrong crowd, apparently.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Urist McKing on August 12, 2010, 07:54:53 am
I have spoke to a few mixed german and polish crowds and I hardly ever get positive responses about dwarf fort.
Thats because they are heretics and need to be purged in the Dwarf Emperor's name.
Watch out or somebody will purge you.

@cyks: you spoke to the wrong crowd, apparently.
HERESY!
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Ratbert_CP on August 12, 2010, 08:21:05 am
I have spoke to a few mixed german and polish crowds and I hardly ever get positive responses about dwarf fort.
Thats because they are heretics and need to be purged in the Dwarf Emperor's name.
Watch out or somebody will purge you.

@cyks: you spoke to the wrong crowd, apparently.
HERESY!

Be careful, you're mixing your excessively violent and suicidally bleak gaming settings.  In DF, it's 7 alcoholic squats against an unforgiving world, psychotic clowns and an uncaring and fickle player.  In 40K, it's uncounted billions with an unforgiving and uncaring god-emperor (well, mostly his priests and bureaucrats) against psychotic and fickle xenos, heretics and traitors.  Granted, the characters are doomed in both settings, but you need to keep the wild-eyed zealotry in the correct game...  ;)

edit: The elves in both settings deserve to die slow-ish.  Also note that the 40K universe couldn't handle the dwarfs, and they were expunged...
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Il Palazzo on August 12, 2010, 08:28:53 am
Also note that the 40K universe couldn't handle the dwarfs, and they were expunged...
I'd rather say the dwarves couldn't handle the 40K and left for DF.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Urist Imiknorris on August 12, 2010, 08:42:38 am
No, they got bored and left for DF.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Ratbert_CP on August 12, 2010, 08:45:07 am
No, they got bored and left for DF.

QFT.  No booze in 40K...
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: zwei on August 12, 2010, 08:47:38 am
 Languages

1.    Finnish   
2.    Swedish   
3.    English   
4.    Czech

Cool, number 4 language :)
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Il Palazzo on August 12, 2010, 08:50:00 am
No, they got bored and left for DF.
Pretty much what I meant.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: UnrealJake on August 12, 2010, 08:55:31 am
Wow, in the United Kingdom, Wales plays it the most... that's... unexpected...
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Il Palazzo on August 12, 2010, 09:03:05 am
On a contrary. They're the descendands of Celts(stonehenge megaconstuction) and Romans(aqueducts), living in a largely mountainous region, with a history of massive coal and iron minig and smelting industries, as well as slate quarrying and coal mining.
See, they actually ARE the dwarves.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Lordinquisitor on August 12, 2010, 09:03:55 am
I have spoke to a few mixed german and polish crowds and I hardly ever get positive responses about dwarf fort.

Watch your mouth and mind, this german lord inquisitor is here to purge you! I really like dwarf fortress. Must be the polish blood that taints those germans you asked. Hrr hrr!  :P

/

Maybe those guys from finland etc. Just wanted to search for dwarves and stumbled over dwarf fortress? Seems quite logical.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Il Palazzo on August 12, 2010, 09:05:37 am
Must be the polish blood that taints those germans you asked. Hrr hrr!  :P
Somebody purge this fellow.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Ratbert_CP on August 12, 2010, 09:05:42 am
Wow, in the United Kingdom, Wales plays it the most... that's... unexpected...

Not really...  Heavy drinking, unpronounceable and inscrutable names...  Sounds like Wales!

*ducks and runs before Owen (http://www.owenstaton.com/) finds him*
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Raging Mouse on August 12, 2010, 01:48:57 pm
Well DF is a good game and has received quite a lot of exposure from the largest Finnish magazine about computers and entertainment electronics; MBnet, including mentions both on their website (where DF has featured as game of the day on several occasions) and in the magazine proper (where it's described in the latest issue as, and I translate here, "probably the best game ever").
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Grimlocke on August 12, 2010, 03:24:43 pm
The Finnish have good taste for games!

Havnt seen DF in any Dutch media at all though (not that I read a lot of magazines...). Might be one of the reasons we are unrepresented on the OPs list. Guess I need to reel in some converts.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: C4lv1n on August 12, 2010, 06:01:04 pm
What's really weird is I found out about DF from a magazine published by the Canadian military about geomatics, that my Dad brought home.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: h3lblad3 on August 12, 2010, 08:21:32 pm
I have spoke to a few mixed german and polish crowds and I hardly ever get positive responses about dwarf fort.
Thats because they are heretics and need to be purged in the Dwarf Emperor's name.
Watch out or somebody will purge you.

@cyks: you spoke to the wrong crowd, apparently.
HERESY!

Be careful, you're mixing your excessively violent and suicidally bleak gaming settings.  In DF, it's 7 alcoholic squats against an unforgiving world, psychotic clowns and an uncaring and fickle player.  In 40K, it's uncounted billions with an unforgiving and uncaring god-emperor (well, mostly his priests and bureaucrats) against psychotic and fickle xenos, heretics and traitors.  Granted, the characters are doomed in both settings, but you need to keep the wild-eyed zealotry in the correct game...  ;)

edit: The elves in both settings deserve to die slow-ish.  Also note that the 40K universe couldn't handle the dwarfs, and they were expunged...
Idiot pulled the lever labeled "ether" and flooded the star system.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: NW_Kohaku on August 13, 2010, 03:56:18 pm
Actually, I find this very interesting... especially since this game is only released in English, but English-speakers are only third most popular.

I know that European gamemakers have very different views on gamemaking philosophy, especially in the board game market.  I wonder if there's something about the Finns socially that attracts them to this kind of gameplay far more than even the nation (and language) this game was built in?
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: smjjames on August 13, 2010, 03:59:44 pm
Isn't Toady One of swedish descent? At least one of his parents (or grandparents, or further back) are from Sweden or Norway or something.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: 3 on August 13, 2010, 04:00:57 pm
Quote from: NW_Kohaku
I wonder if there's something about the Finns socially that attracts them to this kind of gameplay far more than even the nation (and language) this game was built in?

It's more likely that it's just because (frankly) Finland has a rather high proportion of shut-ins. That's what a six-month winter gets you.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Cotes on August 13, 2010, 04:16:29 pm
Actually, I find this very interesting... especially since this game is only released in English, but English-speakers are only third most popular.
I doubt the language has much negative impact in Finland at least, seeing how most of our entertainment is in English. With Finnish subtitles when it's on TV, but still.

Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: riffraffselbow on August 14, 2010, 01:49:36 am
Actually, I find this very interesting... especially since this game is only released in English, but English-speakers are only third most popular.
I doubt the language has much negative impact in Finland at least, seeing how most of our entertainment is in English. With Finnish subtitles when it's on TV, but still.
Was gonna say. Finnish is about as dominant a language in Finland as Welsh is in Wales, from what I've seen/read/heard.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Mandaril on August 14, 2010, 06:00:30 am
Actually, I find this very interesting... especially since this game is only released in English, but English-speakers are only third most popular.

I know that European gamemakers have very different views on gamemaking philosophy, especially in the board game market.  I wonder if there's something about the Finns socially that attracts them to this kind of gameplay far more than even the nation (and language) this game was built in?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisu

So yeah, Dwarf Fortress is the perfect game for us. Suicidally dangerous, but equally fun to conquer :D

Actually, I find this very interesting... especially since this game is only released in English, but English-speakers are only third most popular.
I doubt the language has much negative impact in Finland at least, seeing how most of our entertainment is in English. With Finnish subtitles when it's on TV, but still.
Was gonna say. Finnish is about as dominant a language in Finland as Welsh is in Wales, from what I've seen/read/heard.

It's not that Finns don't speak Finnish: we love our language. It's just that we also speak english very well. Why? We have to, to be able to communicate with outside world. Finnish language is kinda alien to any non-Finn.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Ieb on August 14, 2010, 06:32:44 am
And when you start to drag in things like accent(Savoa perkele) and so on, which at times are alien to other Finns as well as anyone else, no wonder we teach ourselves proper English.

At least that we can understand.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Maggarg - Eater of chicke on August 14, 2010, 06:58:07 am
Finland is awesome. You like metal, DF, coffee, library books, and rally driving.
Where do I sign up?
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: MaDeR Levap on August 14, 2010, 07:37:52 pm
I have spoke to a few mixed german and polish crowds and I hardly ever get positive responses about dwarf fort.
You should asked me... :P
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Ari Rahikkala on August 15, 2010, 06:23:18 am
It's not about Dwarf Fortress specifically, it's just that Finns are shut-ins who like doing a lot of Google searches. It can show up in amusing (http://www.google.com/trends?q=goatse&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0) places.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Cotes on August 15, 2010, 09:25:07 am
Actually, I find this very interesting... especially since this game is only released in English, but English-speakers are only third most popular.
I doubt the language has much negative impact in Finland at least, seeing how most of our entertainment is in English. With Finnish subtitles when it's on TV, but still.
Was gonna say. Finnish is about as dominant a language in Finland as Welsh is in Wales, from what I've seen/read/heard.

It's not that Finns don't speak Finnish: we love our language. It's just that we also speak english very well. Why? We have to, to be able to communicate with outside world. Finnish language is kinda alien to any non-Finn.
Yeah, it's not like we speak English all the time. IMO, Finns might write and read in English well, but actually speaking in English is pretty difficult for many. Still it's a lot more like Finland's second language than the the actual second language.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: breadbocks on August 15, 2010, 10:15:46 am
It's not about Dwarf Fortress specifically, it's just that Finns are shut-ins who like doing a lot of Google searches. It can show up in amusing (http://www.google.com/trends?q=goatse&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0) places.
WHAT THE FU- BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOURG *Mwahahaha* UUUUUUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Soralin on August 15, 2010, 10:38:47 am
Finland is awesome. You like metal, DF, coffee, library books, and rally driving.
Where do I sign up?
http://www.migri.fi/netcomm/default.asp ;)
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: lordnincompoop on August 15, 2010, 11:53:43 am
Finland is awesome. You like metal, DF, coffee, library books, and rally driving.
Where do I sign up?
http://www.migri.fi/netcomm/default.asp ;)
....Wow. Those are some looong words in there.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: lowbart on August 15, 2010, 01:13:13 pm
Quote
Wikipedia: "We may not always win, says sisu, but we most assuredly will never lose."

Yup, sounds like a DF player to me.

I'm not Finnish but I'm a mixture of Scottish, Polish, and Ukrainian, which I think all carry the requisite traits of alcoholism, unpronouncable names, unpleasant weather, and stubbornness in varying amounts. Maybe not so much the engineering talent, but they tend to dig in to their corner of the world and hold onto it rather than expanding, a lot like a Dwarf embark square.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Soralin on August 15, 2010, 03:01:04 pm
Finland is awesome. You like metal, DF, coffee, library books, and rally driving.
Where do I sign up?
http://www.migri.fi/netcomm/default.asp ;)
....Wow. Those are some looong words in there.
Bah, it lost a tag on the end somewhere when I was copying it. :)  http://www.migri.fi/netcomm/Default.asp?language=EN
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: LASD on August 15, 2010, 04:27:26 pm
Yep, DF is pretty known in Finland. I've said it before, but a stranger actually interrupted a discussion I was having with a friend only to ask if we were talking of Dwarf Fortress. Which we were.

And on another occasion, after watching a movie with a group of six people, someone mentioned DF and it turned out every person knew the game from different sources.


Oh cool, Dwarfish actually has the words to write my last name. So, you can call me Eshimid from now on. And if we end up in the same fortress and get to first name terms, Lashëd is pretty close to that. Lashëd Eshimid.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: carebear on August 15, 2010, 05:16:55 pm
Yep, DF is pretty known in Finland. I've said it before, but a stranger actually interrupted a discussion I was having with a friend only to ask if we were talking of Dwarf Fortress. Which we were.

And on another occasion, after watching a movie with a group of six people, someone mentioned DF and it turned out every person knew the game from different sources.
That's awesome.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Organum on August 15, 2010, 05:38:00 pm
Oh cool, Dwarfish actually has the words to write my last name. So, you can call me Eshimid from now on. And if we end up in the same fortress and get to first name terms, Lashëd is pretty close to that. Lashëd Eshimid.

I saw that and decided to try to make my own name. RŒthol  Estamost. It's just an approximation, but it was fun to find it.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Andreus on August 16, 2010, 08:56:41 am
SUOMI FINLAND PERKELE!
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Cotes on August 16, 2010, 12:49:03 pm
SUOMI FINLAND PERKELE!
...
That stopped being funny ages... Wait, are you British?
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Kennel on August 16, 2010, 01:35:05 pm
This can't be a coincidence. (http://www.newsweek.com/photo/2010/08/15/best-countries-in-the-world.html)
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: TomiTapio on August 16, 2010, 01:43:23 pm
I'm from Finland also.
I found Dwarf Fortress on the Mikrobitti microcomputer magazine's software CD last year, next to Nethack and ADOM which I had enjoyed.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: SRN on August 17, 2010, 09:32:02 am
I am in the Denmark category of Dwarf Fortress players but I have been to Finland about two times for festival purposes and I adore that country; especielly because of their alcohol and saunas. So yeah, guess that's the reason why I love this game so much.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: 46852 on August 17, 2010, 11:48:41 am
I am in the Denmark category of Dwarf Fortress players but I have been to Finland about two times for festival purposes and I adore that country; especielly because of their alcohol and saunas. So yeah, guess that's the reason why I love this game so much.

Finnish alcohol ain't that special. For example I'd rather enjoy most other lagers over the domestic ones we have here. Trust me, I've tried and tasted them. Maybe a bit too much even :(
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Mandaril on August 17, 2010, 12:39:22 pm
I am in the Denmark category of Dwarf Fortress players but I have been to Finland about two times for festival purposes and I adore that country; especielly because of their alcohol and saunas. So yeah, guess that's the reason why I love this game so much.

Finnish alcohol ain't that special. For example I'd rather enjoy most other lagers over the domestic ones we have here. Trust me, I've tried and tasted them. Maybe a bit too much even :(

I always thougth it was the about the amount, not the quality ;D
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: TomiTapio on August 17, 2010, 01:34:31 pm
We in Finland like our granite and woodcrafts. Beer and cider too and the Finnish variant of Vodka. Got hella lot forests and lakes.

I put the Finnish language into my DF, and you can have it too:
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2921

I have dwarf names like Muuri TasapainoSauva, Veitsi MieliJäristys, Esine KultausKupari, Kaari DuuniPauke, Uurna KirkasVuori, Järistys Maa-autuus (miner), Valli PulmaHiili.
I've tested the language with site names, dwarf names, and goblin names.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: 46852 on August 18, 2010, 05:16:31 am
I always thougth it was the about the amount, not the quality ;D

Weelll... there's a certain threshold on the amount consumed before which quality does matter, but after it's passed, everything goes :)
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Shagomir on August 18, 2010, 05:52:16 am
We in Finland like our granite and woodcrafts. Beer and cider too and the Finnish variant of Vodka. Got hella lot forests and lakes.

I put the Finnish language into my DF, and you can have it too:
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2921

I have dwarf names like Muuri TasapainoSauva, Veitsi MieliJäristys, Esine KultausKupari, Kaari DuuniPauke, Uurna KirkasVuori, Järistys Maa-autuus (miner), Valli PulmaHiili.
I've tested the language with site names, dwarf names, and goblin names.

I like this a lot. It seems a lot more Dwarfy to have Finnish Dwarfs!
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Double A on August 18, 2010, 06:08:39 am
Excellent, now I can bug a girl I know with this.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Maggarg - Eater of chicke on August 18, 2010, 11:45:00 am
I always end up with Irish dwarves. Gaelic twirly patterns everywhere. Perhaps I should make Dwarven Stout.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: jei on August 24, 2010, 10:10:26 am
And yet, I can't get any of my friends to actually try DF out.

Maybe we're just good at doing google searches.

What got me hooked was a friend playing who told me to read boatmurdered. The monarch butterfly jamming the door and elephants coming in and the following bloody and brutal battles. Just had to try it out. But I have to admit I would have given up had I not had a friend who knew the ins and outs of the game interface. The initial step is way too huge for most people to decide and go at it alone, not to mention that all the mistakes they do are likely fatal for their fortress. I would have given up altogether after first game. In fact I first gave up playing for years after my second fortress was ruined. Wiki has since changed
the situation.

Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: rex mortis on August 24, 2010, 12:09:05 pm
I fail to see how that is a bad thing. I love the "die and learn" mentality in my games. I am not above spoiling the game by reading the wiki of course, I can learn of others' deaths as well as my own.

I first learned of this game...most likely on Civilization Fanatics forums.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: nbonaparte on August 25, 2010, 12:41:16 am
I'm definitely interested in moving to one of the scandinavian countries, but I think I've been convinced of Finland by this thread.
Title: Re: According to this, Finland really likes Dwarf Fortress.
Post by: Rhenaya on August 25, 2010, 03:00:24 am
This spike at 1st April somehow makes it funny... it was a real release, but it still feels lika a hoax with such a date ^^