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Added.Spoiler: Character Sheet (click to show/hide)
A god game is not a very easy one to master nor play, especially with mutable rules and player conflict. I'm in.
Name: Dar-MA-GOmeAdded, now encouraging Dishonor/Violation.
Sphere: Honor
Primary form/associated symbol: A golden-scale dragon with a decadent robe. Walks bipedally most of the time. Hates the color green with a passion. Wields a crescent sword. It is shaped like a sickle, and has dragon breath detailing. Outer edge is extremely sharp, and used for slicing through things like butter. Inner edge is jagged and has teeth, and is used to catch weapons and saw into unfortunate attackers. Has a cloth attached, which allows him to swing the blade around. The cloth hides the emerald runed into the blade.
Description/Background: Simply king of a dragon empire. Brutally exiled his brother for (falsely being accused of) killing his father. The brother has gone insanely envious, and wants EVERYTHING for himself
Name: ValkissAcknowledged, now encouraging non-Order/Chaos, non-Honor/Treachery entries. What about elemental deities?
Sphere: Treachery
Primary form/associated symbol: A blue-skinned, red-eyed humanoid wearing a dark red cowl. His symbol is a wasp impaling its own chest with its long, curved stinger.
Description/Background: Empires fall from within. Such is the way of things, and the true measure of said empire's worth and its ruler's ambition. Oaths that cannot be broken and lines that cannot be crossed serve only to ask a very simple question:
Do you want it?
Sound fun.Acknowledged, now encouraging Spheres Independent of Sapience or Peace.
Name: Fusil
Sphere: Weapons (Failing that, War)
Primary form/associated symbol: A single, vertical bronze bar with flames on either side acts as a symbol. When he chooses to appear, he takes over the weapon of one of his followers, speaking through it. Failing that, he forms a speaking flame in a flammable object.
Description/Background: A protective and vengeful god, who cares greatly for the safety of his followers and their loved ones, offering vengeance to any who do harm to them. He has no mercy reserved for those who harm his followers or get in his way, destroying them like trash.
Worship: This represents how much genuine respect (whether reverence or fear) sapients have for you, and it contributes to your Essence daily income. Unlike Essence, it represents the rate of worship per turn and cannot be transferred, but deities can affect each other's Worship by affecting their followers. Worship from the extremely long-lived or immortal or extremely powerful is considered to be of lower value, as is Worship from the extremely short-lived or insufficiently sapient. Human-like sapients would probably supply around 1 WU*. Direct mind control nullifies Worship output.
"I say we establish some ground rule before we work on making things. I propose that each god have a random number of vote between 1 and 6 votes. That ought ta be more fun""Rejected," Valkiss declared in a regal, pleased with himself tone, as though he'd just solved a problem.
"My brother, you fail to see that we control what these being feel. If we do not wish for them to be saddened by their immortality, they shal not be. For we are their creators, they shal be as we design them. And what if they should die in the afterlife? Shal they follow them from world to world, on the tail of those they love, forever unhappy?"
"I will side with the diamond. We must be sure they are trained adequately, and I will be teacher. No one knows war like a dragon, and I am king. We must be quick, otherwise, this land, and all other things, are to be in mortal danger.""Then I have a wondrous proposal!" he continued in a cheerful tone, clapping his hands together in front of him. "You two can create your own tribe of rocks. Immortal, carved just as we planned them... oh, how wonderful! I for one cannot wait to bask in the radiant worship of our own carved whims.
"As well, what would be different from the mortal world and that of the after life? We would not receive essence from them either. Perhaps, to avoid making death meaningless while still allowing mortals eternal life, we should introduce a form of reincarnation? After a set amount of time after death, the men may be reborn unto this world."
((And that should, of course, keep them fighting without fear, while still having reason to fight!))
Then, the orb of fire turns to Valkiss, continuing to speak in the explosion-like voice.
"Perhaps that is not such a bad idea. The rocks, I mean. We may each create or own race, if you so desire."
"Yes. They are to reincarnate, and should they die, I will teach them in death, show how they died, and teach them to avoid this, and other ways to die. They shall learn through death, and come to life stronger."
"They are to have scales like precious gems and ore. They are to be many colors, not green, green is exiled from our people. They are to be of my image, for they are honorable, and I am honor."
(Text color preliminary)"Well, care to make it official, then? We could create two realms- one for living entities and one for shiny echo chambers carved into statues of yourself. Each deity could pick which manner of worshipers they'd prefer.
"Ooh. I like that idea. Make them shiny.
Did you intend to create an afterlife where it would be likely for them to die again? I don't entirely understand your proposed scenario. At any rate, if you would have them all be unloving creatures, then yes, I suppose that would negate the issue. Although what of their feelings towards us? Would you prefer that we make something that can only love us? Perhaps self centered love as well? What kind of quality of life would that exactly entail... if that truly is your objective.Valkiss snapped his fingers.
One of the appendages sprouts eyes and looks curiously in the direction of the triangle.
Interesting ground rules. Are you... voting that we do that? Does that count as one of your votes?
Grauel laughs at the dragon.
So quick to anger; hardly conductive towards the proper civilized conversation we were having.
At any rate, if you both wish to make an immortal race of selfish war like creatures, go ahead. Truthfully it matters little to me. I'm simply curious of what exactly you are trying to achieve with your creation. For my own part, I will simply ensure that all living creatures have hunger. For them to go without that drive is the only thing I would find unacceptable.
Finally speaking to the blue skinned cowled one,
That is more so what I was thinking. Sounds more interesting.
Valkiss snapped his fingers.
"Dying in the afterlife! That's perfect, we'll use that.
Instead of one realm, we'll have two. That is, instead of one realm for immortal avatars of their masters and one realm for living things, we'll have one realm for immortal avatars of their masters and two realms for living things. When they die in one, their soul is shunted to the other. That way by the time they make it back around, they should be sufficiently different, both from whatever losses they suffer from reincarnation, and whatever gains they achieve in between.
So what do you all say? Two realms, one for handcrafted immortals, one for a singular tribe. Within the tribal realm, two further realms, for them to bounce between on death. Within those realms, one tribe, well perhaps one each, differentiated and spread out as they're wont to be, but naturally and fluidly, not because they were carved that way or earmarked as sacred property."
"Life bringers? That is an interesting idea, but I doubt it's what we're looking for. We should save our power for the essentials; nonsapient beings are not going to worship us. As for the layout of a world, yours is as good as any."So we can create that world and, say, 300 sapients to live on it? Any ideas of what they could be? Perhaps something with two arms and two legs to begin?
(Varee, I can't tell what's in character and what's out of character given your utter lack of either " marks or coloring for in character stuff. Please fix this.)Yes, but we could create a "normal" world surrounded by rings instead of moons, with constructs instead of rain... Why not?
"Let us just make a normal world for now." Anath suggests. "After all, we can always edit it once it has been created. We are gods, yes? An ocean here, a mountain there, my beautiful night sky floating above the world everywhere..."
Sleep is for the weak, isn't it?But why go simple? It is easier to create something grand then to start small and build up. We are gods after all. Why test, when we can force it to work?
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I look toward the ocean god, disapprovingly.
"What purpose would making the world a desert have? We can make it a lush paradise with little more effort. We have no purpose for life bringers if the world itself acts as a life bringing. I would assume a water god such as yourself would detest the desert, not suggest it. Besides, that would block of the night sky one of us loves so much, and is simply untested. Why not go with a simpler, more practical design?"
But why go simple? It is easier to create something grand then to start small and build up. We are gods after all. Why test, when we can force it to work?
I do agree, the center of desert is not what I want. It should be a "standard" planet, surrounded by rings. But why not life bringers, instead of rain?
If such a situation were to arise, it would be a simple matter for us to intervene and end the conflict on at least one of the sides. Especially should we choose to work jointly in doing so. Regardless, I see your point and feel it would be ideal to have a situation where our intervention is not necessarily needed. A spirit realm of some sort does seem like a proper way to give everyone a break before they go on living another life should reincarnation be implemented.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Ah but wouldn't it be so much more satisfying to have them choose us rather than it being forced on them? For all included, I would think. And why should you as a god be so concerned with their defiance? It is surely within your power as it is within all of us to show might in a manner where it would be hard indeed for any lesser being to wish to oppose it. If they do still and it truthfully bothers you so? Well then eat them and be done with it.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
"Sigh" Are you deaf? I asked if you wish your creations to be self loving and self serving. I directed no comment of the sort towards yourself... although if you are so eager to admit to such attributes then so be it.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Anath frowns at the new world. "I would prefer to create two separate dimensions, and not simply half ass it by Bifurcating one dimension."
Hey This is no fair, Why use my energy to do thing. I propose that only deity that support the proposal spend essence. And until that happen I would Vote Against all current and future proposal.
"The most important thing right now is the people who will inhabit this land. We don't have much a design to go off of, except that of ourselves. However our design needs hands to do our bidding, and feet to walk around. As such, the only suitable form among us is the humanoids. Thus, I propose we build about 3 million sentient sapient humanoids, splitting them in half between the two corporeal realms."Supported
"The most important thing right now is the people who will inhabit this land. We don't have much a design to go off of, except that of ourselves. However our design needs hands to do our bidding, and feet to walk around. As such, the only suitable form among us is the humanoids. Thus, I propose we build about 3 million sentient sapient humanoids, splitting them in half between the two corporeal realms.""This has my support."
QuoteHey This is no fair, Why use my energy to do thing. I propose that only deity that support the proposal spend essence. And until that happen I would Vote Against all current and future proposal.
" I disagree. It is plenty fair. We all reap the rewards, as such we must all reap the costs".
"Greetings" says the incredibly bright light in front of you with a humourous tone.
"I say all beings in the worlds shall have the ability to reincarnate. Through the use of their good free will they will be reincarnated in a better place with more possibilities as well as responsibilities. Beings shall be classified in different levels and each level should have special rules dictated to it, every following level would add further rules to the already present ones. We can have all of this on the two worlds we have now, or we could create seven further worlds to represent the different levels of existance. Beings who followed us on the highest levels would acquire the most essence obviously. Once the level niners are finished with their rites and passages they shall go to a personalized heaven world of their chosen god. From where they watch over the followers on other worlds, becoming immortal and part of your own personal pantheon.
"We can care for the two worlds for now, it shall be great to see the struggle of life on them. But think of each different plane as different settings for warfare and struggle. By having nine worlds with different laws, you have nine different outcomes of battles and weaponry. Your power would increase greatly. This would also bring order, as the beastly abominations would begin at the lowest levels, whilst the most advanced would bring forth formidable techniques, because you know it best, the finest weapon is the mind. Level 9 inhabitants would begin to develop the highest class of warfare, as their game would be more complicated.
Hey This is no fair, Why use my energy to do thing. I propose that only deity that support the proposal spend essence. And until that happen I would Vote Against all current and future proposal.
"This sounds reasonable enough to me. I'll accept it. What kinds of humanoids do we desire?"QuoteAnath frowns at the new world. "I would prefer to create two separate dimensions, and not simply half ass it by Bifurcating one dimension."
(We created THREE world. One spirit, then the two corporeal. The corporeal are connected so we can have the reincarnation, probably. Too expensive and worthless to change it.)
"The most important thing right now is the people who will inhabit this land. We don't have much a design to go off of, except that of ourselves. However our design needs hands to do our bidding, and feet to walk around. As such, the only suitable form among us is the humanoids. Thus, I propose we build about 3 million sentient sapient humanoids, splitting them in half between the two corporeal realms."
"We would distill the souls with the aid of the levels. I see your weapon is not sharpened, perhaps another day you will understand what I mean."
Okay, we have created the realms. The next step is to create the planets themselves.
I think we should create two flat planets, both surrounded by an ocean that falls forever. The first will have a magic sun to create light, and the second will have a ring of glowing water in the sky.
I will create 100 life bringers and 300 hundred wisps myself on the second planet, and we can have a "normal" rain system on the first.
We should focus on creating the worlds first, before we start creating creatures to live on them. It is not like we are starving for power.
Rings are a nice shape. Symmetrical, and yet never ending. Much better then a boring sphere.Okay, we have created the realms. The next step is to create the planets themselves.
I think we should create two flat planets, both surrounded by an ocean that falls forever. The first will have a magic sun to create light, and the second will have a ring of glowing water in the sky.
I will create 100 life bringers and 300 hundred wisps myself on the second planet, and we can have a "normal" rain system on the first.
We should focus on creating the worlds first, before we start creating creatures to live on them. It is not like we are starving for power.
"Why do you enjoy rings so? I have already brought forth my own misgivings of the life bringers and wisps. As for the endlessly falling water, we certainly do not have enough energy for eternity. Besides that, doesn't that make your own domain useless to the people?
we certainly do not have enough energy for eternity.Ye be gods!
Rings are a nice shape. Symmetrical, and yet never ending. Much better then a boring sphere.
Still, what makes a sphere better then a ring?QuoteRings are a nice shape. Symmetrical, and yet never ending. Much better then a boring sphere.
"You do realize, brother, that spheres are also never ending and eternal? They are also perfectly symmetrical."
"What would one trade on the edge of a world? It seems there is neither travel nor trade, if the only location it leads is nowhere."
"I dislike the idea of flat worlds, but if we must have one, let us have only one, and let the other world be different." Anath says. "Personally, I would prefer two round worlds, each with one nonmagical sun and one moon."I am willing to compromise, but having everything spherical is boring. At least make the lights in the sky interesting! Must we have a sun and a moon for both?
What flaw is there in a sphere that makes a ring superior?What makes a sphere so much more superior that everything must be one?
(OK.I'll let the non-sapients just generate on their own with your (pl.) optional guidance. Make an Ecosystem: The Game is going in my ideas file as a distant future possibility.)(I'd play that game. Those are always fun and I always seem to miss getting into one.)
(I am assuming the worlds are formed with creatues, just not sentient ones. Otherwise this is just "make an ecosystem the game")
I am willing to compromise, but having everything spherical is boring. At least make the lights in the sky interesting! Must we have a sun and a moon for both?
"The shapes of the worlds are not important for me. I can work with anything, so I will let you others make this choice."
"Constellations, I like. You can have my support for them. However, giving mortals magic of their own power can be dangerous and bring needless destruction. (Oppose.) Instead, we should simply have them invoke us and let us decide if they are worthy of the miracles."
"I support the constellations and mortal magics. They should make the world interesting.I agree as well.
Also I prefer round worlds and regular suns for the two starter planets at least.If this is everyone's wish, as it appears, then I will agree to it. For the first two planets.
I agree as well.
"I shal also support the constellations, though I must hold off my opinion on magics until I learn more about them."(Don't forget you're supposed to bold or underline stuff when you want to support something, so the DM can actually notice people voting in the middle of all the talking.)
(And double support for the fact most of them are weapons based. Fusil's sky fires!)
Anath stirs once more. "Shall these count as constellations, for the use of mortal magic? And if so, what would be their mystical aspects be?"Also I prefer round worlds and regular suns for the two starter planets at least.If this is everyone's wish, as it appears, then I will agree to it. For the first two planets.
I do think that the night should have special lights. Say, a spinning disk of aurora for one, and several glowing gemstones made of ice for the other? Along with the constellations of course.
As long as the gemstones stayed together, it *should* count as one object.
Not constellations, but used for magic.Anath stirs once more. "Shall these count as constellations, for the use of mortal magic? And if so, what would be their mystical aspects be?"Also I prefer round worlds and regular suns for the two starter planets at least.If this is everyone's wish, as it appears, then I will agree to it. For the first two planets.
I do think that the night should have special lights. Say, a spinning disk of aurora for one, and several glowing gemstones made of ice for the other? Along with the constellations of course.
As long as the gemstones stayed together, it *should* count as one object.
(Does that mean you'll flip Azem? :P)(Actually I was just going to roll 1d2 on my dicebot.)
Anath nods. "I find that acceptable. I shall add it to the list. Which world will each be on? Or do you not care? Though if I may make one suggestion? Gemstones do not seem to me to have much to do with home and safety. Perhaps those two concepts could be changed to crystals and treasure?"Yes, crystals and treasure sounds better. Ice just makes me think of home...
Me say no to everything but magic for now.What about the proposals you proposed and building 3 million sapients? If you oppose building 3 million sapients, you forfeit direct control over the process and results.
Votes yes to 03.07 , 02.07
No. To everything else....
Me say no to everything but magic for now.What about the proposals you proposed and building 3 million sapients? If you oppose building 3 million sapients, you forfeit direct control over the process and results.
Votes yes to 03.07 , 02.07
No. To everything else....
(OK, I guess. I just wanted to warn Varee about what might seem a bit of a hasty blanket opposition vote. You all may want to propose something to specify who gets creative control over proposals if this ever gets big and messy enough that opposers still provide significant creative control.)Me say no to everything but magic for now.What about the proposals you proposed and building 3 million sapients? If you oppose building 3 million sapients, you forfeit direct control over the process and results.
Votes yes to 03.07 , 02.07
No. To everything else....
Says who and what law? You are threatening free decision, leave him be. As long as we have no proper laws, we can decide however we want.
"What I mean by broken circle is that there are no gods of Satiation, Charity, Imbalance, or so on. Some of us do have our opposition, which weakens us. Additionally, remember that opposing a proposition also weakens its ultimate effect on the world, while abstaining does not. My propositions do not make opposition meaningless."
"03.10 I oppose, 03.11 I support"((You missed these from the votes.))
(Fusil: -7 Essence. Also, did you just call your Angel fat!?)
(Tykk is Norwegian for fat, as in a fat human.)
(Of course. Make a being take the shape of a still non-existent race. Surely she will be accepted by the night elves and the lizard people. What? Of course I'm not made that I still don't exist! Why would you even think that?) All in good jest, my friends. I am patient.
(Of course. Make a being take the shape of a still non-existent race. Surely she will be accepted by the night elves and the lizard people. What? Of course I'm not made that I still don't exist! Why would you even think that?) All in good jest, my friends. I am patient.How is there a god of humans among us? What is a human anyways, and why are you a god of them?
Errrr... might want to read this:(Of course. Make a being take the shape of a still non-existent race. Surely she will be accepted by the night elves and the lizard people. What? Of course I'm not made that I still don't exist! Why would you even think that?) All in good jest, my friends. I am patient.How is there a god of humans among us? What is a human anyways, and why are you a god of them?
Here's the sheet:
Name: ? ? ?
Spheres: Humans; when awoken: humanity, ambition, protection
Primary form/Associated symbol: Sleeping baby
Description/Background: Born from the very discussions of the other gods and yet unknown to them, the unnamed child sleeps, waiting for when the gods shall create its wards and it may awaken.
(Also, Andres /? ? ? is the god of humans, whatever that could possibly mean...)A god of thievery protects thieves, a god of horses protects horses, a god of fertility protects pregnant women...
A god of thievery protects thieves, a god of horses protects horses, a god of fertility protects pregnant women...But a god does not only protect... What would a god of hunger be then? Or dreams?
But what are these humans a god of humans protects? ;)I was actually gonna make an updated character sheet when ? ? ? awoke, including an actual name, proper physical forms, and most likely ambition as a secondary (humans are ambitious, right?). Right now it does nothing and is unnoticed so it doesn't really matter. You didn't really think I would play as a baby did you?
(Also, you need a name besides ? ? ? to participate and a finalized second sphere. If you really want the unknown part, PMing the name would be a good idea.)
A god of protection would disagree with you. :P But really, the god will just have the interests of the humans at heart and will do normal god things to help them and itself.A god of thievery protects thieves, a god of horses protects horses, a god of fertility protects pregnant women...But a god does not only protect...
"An Essence-laden Angel is not necessary if one can get a point across through simpler means.""An Essence-laden Angel is not necessary if one can get a point across through simpler means."
The light creates 300 free willed humanoids with translucent skin and a high curiousity, they are slender tall humans. (Think of mr. Burns in that one episode where he is high and radiating because of his power plant)(For some reason, that sounds a bit like the SCP humanoids with the amnestic gas that would inhabit the Shadowdeep*.Anyway, The Light: -2 Essence)
Seeing that everyone else create some thing, Varee bring forth a horde of giant ants. 3000 on each planet. He name them Minio-on.(Will those be sapient giant ants?)
Create the Gruen(Grauel: -2 Essence, fluff later)
(More fluff later when I'm home)
"Every one of us having their own followers may lead to large conflicts without some ecumenism. I propose we create grand ecumenical temples containing altars to every god and place them among the beings. We must promote knowledge of all of us in order to prevent chaos. Oh, and consider that this will help all of us. If this fails, I may have to resort to more subtle and selfish ways of gaining followers."I agree, although it might be a bit early. And we should move the Library to the third realm.
The light creates 300 free willed humanoids with translucent skin and a high curiousity, they are slender tall humans. (Think of mr. Burns in that one episode where he is high and radiating because of his power plant)((Damn! So close! If only they were actual humans!))
(The 3 million are currently humanoids, which can be edited to our leisure. As someone already made a "God of Humans", I wouldn't particularly mind if they where so.((COME ON! GET ON WITH IT! AWAKEN ME! YOU'VE ONLY CREATED EVERY OTHER RACE! SUMMON UP YOUR POWER! TRANSFORM YOUR ESSENCE! MOLD IT INTO BODIES AND MAKE THEM STAND! The cosmos is still so young. Come on! Hurry! HURRY! HURRY! PULL YOUR POWER TOGETHER! THE FUN HAS YET TO BEGIN! Come on! HURRY!))
I will order my Beings to build a temple inside their cities, with altars for every god (Including space for future gods). The Temple should be made of stone, and bubbles of music will rise out of the altars instead of smoke.
((COME ON! GET ON WITH IT! AWAKEN ME! YOU'VE ONLY CREATED EVERY OTHER RACE! SUMMON UP YOUR POWER! TRANSFORM YOUR ESSENCE! MOLD IT INTO BODIES AND MAKE THEM STAND! The cosmos is still so young. Come on! Hurry! HURRY! HURRY! PULL YOUR POWER TOGETHER! THE FUN HAS YET TO BEGIN! Come on! HURRY!))
Anyone get the reference?
"So, fellow artists, any arguments against simply making it orbit one of the planets?" The Artisanii ask.
(Yes, but at the moment, they have little need for weapons. It still adds in to your Influence (invisible stat) and eventually, possibly Worship. Right now, you are guaranteed to receive at least 1 Essence/tick from your Influence.)
((Which will keep my from dropping dead, at least. Maybe I should make some beasts to hunt? Ill have to see what happens when the humanoids come in, surly some conflict will come up.))(Pending further changes in Essence, you have 7 Essence, so you are in little danger right now.)
(Pending further changes in Essence, you have 7 Essence, so you are in little danger right now.)
Khaziraad, some assistance with building the temple would be appreciated, but how well do your golems fair in the cold of the depths?
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"You fool! Do not speak to the voices. Whatever they are, they are not to be trusted. We should do our best to pretend they do not exist, they have no hold over this world that we do not give them."It seems they cannot hear me anyways.
"((Not a proposal, merely a discussion. Since we already decided on creating them, any god could technically throw in some personal touch without the Council.))(This is pretty much how passed but not executed works. The council releases control over what the proposal governs to discussion.)
Minio-on are large horde of ant like creature that protect their queen, each hive have about 700-800 member and one queen who controls them all. There always two more princess in the hive, one to take over if the queen died and another to go and make new colony, when the queen died the colony is split between the princesses. They are all mentally connected to each other and the queen can see though her minions eye. They have basic social structure with a few castes. ((Generaly like DF antmen.))(Varee: -3 Essence)
"Now, as for the 3 million, we are to sort them evenly between World A and B, right? I propose that we should all send one essence towards it, and for doing this we can design a specific part of the creature. For example, I send one essence towards it, and I decided to create the brain for it. Serac sends one essence, and decides to work on it's legs."(It's a bit late for having the council do that. The council released control over the creation of 3 million sapients when the proposal passed. You will now have to decide on the specifics through discussion with the others. The only thing it can enforce is that you (pl.) do actually create at least 3 million sapients and not something like 5 million humanoid statues made of jelly rools with council resources.)
"I propose that we should all send one essence towards it, and for doing this we can design a specific part of the creature. For example, I send one essence towards it, and I decided to create the brain for it. Serac sends one essence, and decides to work on it's legs."((NOOOOOOOOO!!!!! AWAKEN ME! AWAKEN MEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!))
((Oh thank Us!))Quote"Now, as for the 3 million, we are to sort them evenly between World A and B, right? I propose that we should all send one essence towards it, and for doing this we can design a specific part of the creature. For example, I send one essence towards it, and I decided to create the brain for it. Serac sends one essence, and decides to work on it's legs."(It's a bit late for having the council do that.)
You will now have to decide on the specifics through discussion with the others......
On a different note my friends, I propose we should create the climate on our two worlds, one very balanced. The other extremely harsh (very hot, very cold).
The Light shall create a landmark made up of gigantic diamonds that reflect light, be it moon or sun, kilometers apart, in many different colours. It should be surrounded by a gigantic lake. Call this Landmark the Multiprism of Divine Light.(The Light: -4 Essence)
On a different note my friends, I propose we should create the climate on our two worlds, one very balanced. The other extremely harsh (very hot, very cold).
I agree with the first three plans for the humanoids, but oppose the last two
I agree with the first three plans for the humanoids, but oppose the last twoI feel the same.
And are we simply going to ignore Serac's higher essence count? Something must be behind it." [/color]I just assumed he got it from those voices he was talking to.
I agree with the first three plans for the humanoids, but oppose the last two
((Sorry, my internet broke))And are we simply going to ignore Serac's higher essence count? Something must be behind it." [/color]I just assumed he got it from those voices he was talking to.
One of my beings was visited by a creature, said to have "reeked of something foreign." They said it questioned them about something. More I do not know.
It did give that being power, which I took for myself. Beyond that, my power grows because I have worshipers.
I am saying it questioned one of my followers. I actually do not know what it wanted from them. It asked something about "eldrich temples"QuoteOne of my beings was visited by a creature, said to have "reeked of something foreign." They said it questioned them about something. More I do not know.
It did give that being power, which I took for myself. Beyond that, my power grows because I have worshipers.
"Forgive me for asking for clarification. Are you saying it made a deal with one of your followers? I certainly find that hard to believe. What did it offer you, for what bizarre service? If it was benign, certainly you can tell us without fear of reprisal."
I am saying it questioned one of my followers. I actually do not know what it wanted from them. It asked something about "eldrich temples"
My follower prayed to me about it, and that was how I learned what I did.
No, this is the first I heard of it. I set my followers to work searching for any signs of it, and to attempt to find where it came from. Nothing yet.QuoteI am saying it questioned one of my followers. I actually do not know what it wanted from them. It asked something about "eldrich temples""So you are saying that the voices sent a physical messenger to us? And it is questioning the mortals? That is also worrying. Did you invite this thing into the world in return for power? Is that how the events unfolded? You still have not explained your sudden influx properly. Surly, there are gods with followers than you who fall far short in essence. The three million humanoids should easily allow us to track down any messenger they send, for now we should focus on making sure no more enter our realms. Which is why you must explain how it entered, did you summon the demon?"
My follower prayed to me about it, and that was how I learned what I did.
((You know, there is a quote button for a reason, right at the top right of a message.))
It did give that being power, which I took for myself. Beyond that, my power grows because I have worshipers.
"So a being questioned your followers about a 'temple'? You do not think that it is one of the voices. Does that mean it is a second entity, one from the same place as the voices but in direct opposition to them? They seem just as shadowy. We should seek to block out all extra-dimensional influence, not just the voices, if they are not affiliated with them."The questioning messenger. It appeared to have teleported into and out of our dimension, which I imagine would require massive amounts of energy. Some of that power seemed to have be left inside my worshiper, and I thought I could use it myself. Or perhaps it was attempting to control my follower using the power, I cannot know for sure. Either way, the power is now mine.
"And my brother, I was confused what you meant by:QuoteIt did give that being power, which I took for myself. Beyond that, my power grows because I have worshipers.
What where you suggesting? What being gave you power? The voices? The questioning messenger? Also, what do you think they meant by and 'eldrich temple'?"
Ignoring the Light, Anath turns back to the worlds and unleashes Star Dragons into both of them. This seems to be the season for creating, and he doesn't want his creations to loose the prestige that making them before the mass creation could give them. As well as being the first true dragons born upon the world.(Anath: -3 Essence)
Azem turns to the worlds and creates many dragons made of shining gemstones.(Azem: -4 Essence)
$$$Flat price of 5 Essence, removes existing attunements without refunds, greatly increases difficulty of using magic.
Complete magic resistance for a creature.
"Let us get the creation of the humanoids out of the way, for we have been putting them off far to long. I am fine with dividing the three million among the twelve of us, if that would make things go faster, so long as we get it next tick."
Azem turns his gaze to the mountains of the worlds and checks on the Mountwyrms.The Mountwyrms are thriving and have carved out decent homes in the sides of mountains. Recently, some have split off from the main groups and begun traveling in search of exotic strangers. Their reverence for you and your sphere is quite high.
(Anath: What's the relationship between Star Elves and Night Elves?)(Mainly the part where I've been using the names interchangeably.)
Spoiler: My plans for them (click to show/hide)
"No need to come forward with more Essence. Once we've come to an agreement, it'll be divided about evenly. I already said what traits I would like to see in them, whether they're divided to be made by each god or decided together."Let us create them now then, it passed long ago that we would.Spoiler: My plans for them (click to show/hide)
"If you truly want to create them now, speak what you want of them. Merely agreeing that we should do so is worth nothing."I just want some to be seafaring. That is all.
"For starters, I agree they should be smarter then the beast, even smarter then the sentient species we have already made. If this happens, I will also bless them with the ability to paint and draw. With it's flexibility, it can serve for all Gods."
(You have me listed as having 20/20 Essence instead of 1/1.)(Fixed again)
Khaziraad looks upon his creations, judging their progress.The Golems have been busy constructing. As of now, they have built a village containing the first free-standing stone structures on a road serendipitously located about halfway between (and reasonably close to) a Luminee settlement and a Mountwyrm village. In their desire to build, they have carved many artifacts, large and small, of various creatures and objects. They have also established the world's largest clay kilns in an effort to match the reproduction of the fleshy races.
As i see the two most recent proposal is counter productive so i vote nay!Counted.
"05.00: Oppose, 'Let them figure it out by themselves, if they ever will.'Counted
05.01: Oppose
06.00: Support"
Artisanii votes.Counted, donation loggedSpoiler (click to show/hide)
He then speaks. "We need to get started on making these Humanoids as soon as possible. I will be putting forward 1 essence to the proposal, so we can get this started."
Grauel after a bit of thinking addresses the council.The ravenous Gruen are satisfied temporarily. One speculates that as god of hunger, you may be able to take it away in addition to giving it. This is seen as heresy by others.
I suppose I will go down and check on my own creations now. We really should finish creating those humanoids though. Keep it simple shall we? Two arms, two legs, typical humanoid body. If we want more complex individuals we can create them ourselves. Let's just get this done.
Grauel goes down and checks on his own creations, offering them a large gift of food to temporarily appease their appetites.
(Looks like the humanoids (better be humans) will be created once the 7 (or was it 8?) Essence requirement is filled. Here's your chance to gain favour with the God of Humans when it awakens.)Artisanii votes.Counted, donation loggedSpoiler (click to show/hide)
He then speaks. "We need to get started on making these Humanoids as soon as possible. I will be putting forward 1 essence to the proposal, so we can get this started."
As a show of aproval of their progress, Khaziraad grants the knowledge of existence of magma beneath the earth to the golems. Being of stone and metals and thus greatly resistant to heat, they would be able to utilise it more efectively than those of flesh.The golems learn of the Earth-Blood and its properties. They learn of the influence of silicate content and hydration on metallic abundance, melting range, and mechanical properties. They are now engineering an Earth-Blood well which will, with your blessing, overcome physics and allow the existence of voids under pressure and pray for you to reveal active sources of magma (e.g. volcanoes) to make their work lighter.Spoiler: Votes (click to show/hide)
Azem blesses the chunk of his manifestation to bring good fortune to those around it.The Piece of Eight* begins to bring good fortune to those in its vicinity. Realizing this, the Mountwyrm pilgrimage minister responsible for the building charges more for entry and even more for touching.
Grauel provides more essence towards the humans while making sure there is a natural propensity for both literal and metaphorical hunger in them.(Donation intention recorded, but how much did you want to donate exactly?)
Azem provides his share of essence.(Pool updated, share still uncertain.)
Kli grants a small part of his essence towards to humans, ensuring that most humans would naturally see the wisdom in maintaining balance.(Donation intention recorded, but how much do you intend to donate?)
Anath too grants a mote of essence to the project.(Donation of 1 Essence recorded; no earmarks?)
Another case for this system is that some of the gods haven't put in Essence because their players aren't online.)
(So long as you don't donate NOTHING, it's enough.)QuoteAnother case for this system is that some of the gods haven't put in Essence because their players aren't online.)
Pff. One day. I was gone one day when my parents are in town. Oh well, I am the one who suggested the proposal, surly they realize who their true creator is.
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"The humanoids where my idea. It is only fit two donate what I can to see them come into being. I can only spend one point on this, however, I shal pray it is enough."
Well, I suppose they should be fine so long as we both respectively order them not to try eating each other.(Grauel: -10 Essence)
Create the Archangel of Hunger with flying, teleporting, and shapeshifting
Order the Angel down to cultivate the Gruen into larger numbers and maintain their loyalty.
Force a prophet to be born amongst the luminee. He shall bring law and writing.(The Light: -1 Essence)
With the nearing time of creation for the 3 million humans, Kli decides to make his move.The Hummingbirds quickly notice Kli on both worlds at once and take flight, surrounding him and singing their praises and sending their requests. Among the notable requests are the following:
First he appears to the Hummingbirds of Balance (of both worlds), and waits for them to notice him.
Donation recorded.QuoteAnother case for this system is that some of the gods haven't put in Essence because their players aren't online.)
Pff. One day. I was gone one day when my parents are in town. Oh well, I am the one who suggested the proposal, surly they realize who their true creator is.
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"The humanoids where my idea. It is only fit two donate what I can to see them come into being. I can only spend one point on this, however, I shal pray it is enough."
Azem guides a Mountwyrm trade mission on world A to the Gruen.The Mountwyrm trade mission reaches a Gruen settlement which fortunately, happens not to have been recently visited by the Devourer*. The Mountwyrms display many gems and metal trinkets, and the Gruen, sternly advised by Grauel not to eat the traders, take out many intricate wood carvings and exceptionally shaped stones and bone crafts. They also offer strips of a weird moss unfamiliar to the Mountwyrms. This is the world's first trade show, and it will enter Mountwyrm lore as the time of Second Creation.
Random got bored and create a million flea like Flea-on to be the Minio-on slave/domesticated animal.(Varee: -4 Essence)
((I submitted some names, but they were abstained from...))(Maybe try asserting them again? I guess I could just release control to you (pl.) for something so minor (and irritating while unresolved) and let you (pl.) sort it out on your own. What do you (pl.) think?)
Azem floats nearby as a ghostly coin, watching the Gruen with interest.(Whole or chipped? ;))
I will donate two essences for a share of the humanoids.Donation noted.
What radiation ? I didnt do no radiation nor did i do anything much more than what you see me do.But you did power spike, how?
The whispers from the Void appear to have subsided to some extent despite a noticeable increase in the level of cosmic eldritch background radiation. There are no clear culprits for this change.
"I highly doubt that any code of conduct would prevent a god from acting within his domain, and if you think that teaching people to gamble isn't within the domain of a god of randomness, you are quite deluded." Anath informs the divinity of annoying order before glancing at the other god. "If you want me to look around at the sky, I see no reason not to, but I'd think that, none of you being blind idiots, if I'd created a constellation of eldrich whateverness in the skies one of you would have noticed it..."
"As I understand, eldrich whateverness is a form of magic like all others. Therefore, isn't it only logical there is a sign associated with it? Yes, please search the sky, my brother. Certainly, your domain should be the best at finding whatever hides in the darkness. I and the world will be grateful if we can learn something about it, at least."Anath shakes his head at this indication of either ignorance or foolishness. "No. The signs in the sky were created by the gods. None of them are directly associated with any kind of magic in particular, besides how all of them are self evidently connected to the magic of the stars. If there is a sky thing associated with Eldritch stuff, it is because someone made it."
"Remind me why this is a problem? Perhaps it is simply my natural inclination talking, but I see nothing wrong with some of us making deals with these beings."
"Remind me why this is a problem? Perhaps it is simply my natural inclination talking, but I see nothing wrong with some of us making deals with these beings."Well, the eldritch power causes mutations. I have warded my village to prevent future events, but it is not harmless. At least not in large quantities.
"You see no problem in shadowy beings whispering strange actions in return for power? Even if you assumed this was harmless, the fact they do it in secret is enough to mean it cannot be good. Up to now, nobody who has interacted with the void voices has stated what their deal is, and what they have done to the world. Surly, if a business partner acted this shady, there would be no way you would trust them?"Haha, actually most of that seems less uncommon in the God business than you would make it out to be but I digress. The only crime I see in consorting with them is that we do not know what true intentions they may have and what harm they might pose, yet. Truthfully I would think the most wise course of action would simply be to find out manners of protecting ourselves and our creations against harmful influences. Otherwise I fear you may never escape the paranoia that someone is consorting with them anytime anything strange happens.
If you logic is i vote against punishing people talking to void therefore I talked to void then think again, If you have not notice I pretty much vote against everything...
You accuse him of creating things in the sky, and then ask him to search the sky for you? I do not follow your logic..."I highly doubt that any code of conduct would prevent a god from acting within his domain, and if you think that teaching people to gamble isn't within the domain of a god of randomness, you are quite deluded." Anath informs the divinity of annoying order before glancing at the other god. "If you want me to look around at the sky, I see no reason not to, but I'd think that, none of you being blind idiots, if I'd created a constellation of eldrich whateverness in the skies one of you would have noticed it..."
"As I understand, eldrich whateverness is a form of magic like all others. Therefore, isn't it only logical there is a sign associated with it? Yes, please search the sky, my brother. Certainly, your domain should be the best at finding whatever hides in the darkness. I and the world will be grateful if we can learn something about it, at least."
You accuse him of creating things in the sky, and then ask him to search the sky for you? I do not follow your logic...
Well, the eldritch power causes mutations. I have warded my village to prevent future events, but it is not harmless. At least not in large quantities.((Right here it is implied))
(Where did it say the ocean god's creations were mutated. Totally missed that.)
Azem floats into the middle of the bazaar.The trading intensifies and gradually subsides as goods on both sides are depleted. Some Gruen outcasts (outcast because of their higher satiation) agree to join the Mountwyrm trading mission as they return to their home villages for supplies.
Anath too turns his hands to creating livestock, creating giant peaceful lizards that live beneath the surface of the earth, feasting on fungus, moss, and carrion, to serve both as mounts and food sources for his elven followers. These Cave Noxen will be quite useful for any species that lived within the earth.(Anath: -2 Essence)
But deeper beneath the earth Anath crafts another species, the Burrowers Beneath. These great centipede-worms are vast in length, and feast upon rock and soil, carving out tunnels beneath the earth. As the ages go past, and they dig their way through the earth, the tunnels they leave behind will be populated by other creatures... (Anath will also give the Burrowers Beneath one essence's worth of resistance to magic.)
Anath then glances out at the others. "Are we really claiming that the god of randomness could not have something random happen to him? That none of our creations have found chaos to be a factor in their life? Though I am surprised he hasn't taught the Mountwyrms how to gamble yet."
(If you are god of paranoid then i would be god of annoyance, would annoying other god give me essence that way :P )(Wouldn't you be the god of gambling?)
(Also, it is indeed true that this planet-wound can be used as an endless heat source. However, you would need an endless heat sink or a miracle to get endless energy out of it.)
((Or some heat resistant folowers who like building stuff to build some channels to spread the magma and the heat around. You know, like pretty much every dwarf fortress shown in movies/video games.))
At this point, you all have more than enough to prototype a few extra races and propagate existing ones to fill up the quota.)(Guys. You can make dwarves with the extra Essence.)
"I will donate another essence, if I am allowed to give them the knowledge to paint and draw."You're allowed to give them whatever you want so long as it's reasonable and you donate Essence.
Kli smiles once more, and addresses every single one of the Hummingbirds.A young Hummingbird: "To always get what you want!"
He tells them that he understands their concerns; they wish to always feel the freedom of having the wind under their wings, to grow and spread themselves throughout the world, to never have their lives run short, and more.
He pauses, then asks them what the meaning of Balance is.
He makes sure that his tone of voice is not scolding, but rather like an eager teacher seeking responses from his own students.
If noone want to suggest more design for 3.00 i suggest we increase the purposed design to 100k each and i can come up with 28 more design so this project can finish.((20k each? It should be enough...
((20k would mean we need 150 design for 3 million....))((I think the 3 million are going to be humans and these other races are extras due to having leftover Essence.))
((20k would mean we need 150 design for 3 million....))"The last one seems redundant. I like the second one though."
I suggest a feline humanoid with cat claw and fur that lives in the forest.
A large but not very smart humanoid the live of it sheer strength.
A small short humanoid that like ti dig and like to be drunk all day long.
And maybe a few race of smaller humanoid that use magic.
An aquatic race the lve in the ocean and have some webbing in their hand and feet.
Winged humanoid that live in the mountain peaks.
"I suggest we make 1 million of them minimum unaligned humans with no particularly influence of any sphere. This will allow us all to take followers from, and all of us to receive influence. Certainly, there is no issue with this?"We could each take 20,000 and then make the rest unaligned humans.
07.5 mini-update updated for donations, Essence, and stuff. I'll make sure I write the next one before I get too sleepy and end up cp'ing tickly/tick006 tickly/tick0075 or something.Kli smiles once more, and addresses every single one of the Hummingbirds.A young Hummingbird: "To always get what you want!"
He tells them that he understands their concerns; they wish to always feel the freedom of having the wind under their wings, to grow and spread themselves throughout the world, to never have their lives run short, and more.
He pauses, then asks them what the meaning of Balance is.
He makes sure that his tone of voice is not scolding, but rather like an eager teacher seeking responses from his own students.
Another young Hummingbird: "When this tree isn't falling?"
A Hummingbird: "When we attack claw-birds for wanting to eat us?"
An elderly Hummingbird: "To be brave enough to accept death as a necessary part of the cycle."
Another Hummingbird: "Standing on one foot?"
Yet another Hummingbird: "When we sacrifice something to get something else or the other way around?"
Still another Hummingbird: "When we fly in place like no lesser bird can?"
How do you respond?
Also, we have a god of humans who should really start doing something around here.I am a SLEEPING BABY. WHAT IS A SLEEPING BABY EVEN CAPABLE OF DOING? The other gods aren't even aware of my EXISTENCE. Once humans are made, I awaken. When I awaken I can do stuff. That stuff includes revealing myself to the other gods which will happen about a minute after I awaken.
We could each take 20,000 and then make the rest unaligned humans."I support this idea. My share shall be small bearded humanoids who live underground."
Check up on my undersea beings. Has anything interesting happened since I left?
Azem enlarges whatever Alprozem used to transport it in the first place, his symbol glowing above it.(Azem: -0 Essence (cost offset sufficiently by Belief))
Azem then turns his gaze to the Mountwyrms. What have they been doing?It appears that a few months ago, a talking shiny came to them with a box, offering to play a game. They had to place shinies in the box, and if it was closest to a number the shiny chose, they would get their wishes answered. If it was exactly the same, the wishes would be answered as the wisher intended. Six Mountwyrms won by being unable to put anything in the box (for so many were the shinies in the box) and a few wished for shinies, so the talking shiny made the entire village and its air shiny (expecting it to last only a day or a few hours), but, fueled by the Belief in the village, the glittery effects lasted an entire week. The village rejoiced and spread the news, and many Mountwyrms and disciples of Greed came from miles around to pay to see the once-shiny village.
Azem admires the shire for a few minutes before transforming into a chipped coin.*shrine?
(It has not been long enough for languages to evolve. Presumably, the sapients are speaking Godstongue (Divili? - short for 'divine linguistics'), the language of the gods and the only language to exist yet. Does this make sense?)(That may be true, but keep in mind that a tick of time is poorly defined.)
Kli (still hidden) influences the Humminbirds who have met the Luminess to allow those who wish to visit the Trees to fly with them, using songs of the gentle yet powerful wind to carry them.The Luminees are carried back to the local Tree to meet the main assembly of Hummingbirds. They exchange stories, food, and rumors over the course of a few days, and some Luminees ask to stay with the Hummingbirds. A few more Hummingbirds wishing to stay with the Luminees for a time return the remainder of the Luminees back to their village. Life for the Luminees at the Tree of Balance is rather difficult.
He also influences the last Hummingbird party to realize the need of remembering their surroundings for the future, hopefully leading the Hummingbirds to find a proper way of "mapping" the areas far from home creatively.
"Hm. I do believe I business to attend to. Farewell."The Mountwyrms trade caravan sends two scouts to fly over the forest surrounding the Tree of Balance to plot a practical course. Some hungry Gruen sample various fruits, and the caravan holds multiple fruit-based feasts for the five days it takes for the scouts to return. They continue on their journey and eventually arrive at the base of the Tree and are greeted warmly by the Hummingbirds. The caravan proceeds to set up shop at the base of the Tree, hoping to see what crafts and goods the Hummingbirds produce.
Azem finds the nearest Mountwyrm trade caravan and guides them to the Tree of Balance.
(I don't even remember which world the Piece of Eight is on, if it was ever even defined.)
Artisanii checks on how his Muses are doing.The Muses seem to be carving icons, forging trinkets, painting cliffs, sculpting rocky outcrops, weaving clothing, cutting tiles, firing pots, engraving clay, playing games where they pretend to be gods, polishing the statue/shrine, rehearsing comedies, and various other creative pursuits. They are not the most organized race, but they do produce a lot of interesting works.
Serac: You give the gift of monochromatic vision to the Ritan with a peak sensitivity at around 450nm (blue-violet) and the changes required for vision after development.Well, I was hoping for them to be able to see all energies, but only from sources. So, a person would glow because of thermal energy, but not the light refecting off of them.
(Saying energy was just a roundabout, in-character way of describing that plants require light to photosynthesize. As I recall, the Ritan are blind from not needing to be able to see at the depths where they live. Would you like this infravision or more modifications too?)Serac: You give the gift of monochromatic vision to the Ritan with a peak sensitivity at around 450nm (blue-violet) and the changes required for vision after development.Well, I was hoping for them to be able to see all energies, but only from sources. So, a person would glow because of thermal energy, but not the light refecting off of them.
They could also see the energy produced by magical sources if possible...
Stirk:
He only has ever had one, it was just bookkeeping errors.
"It would seem that someone has stolen the Slumbering God's essence without council approval. If we are to take it, we should do it openly and fairly. Would anyone like to fess up to this, before my paranoia causes me to go on a witch hunt?"Anath blinks. "How interesting. I didn't even know that was possible."
Oh, I thought you meant ???, the human god.QuoteStirk:Look at the inactive (slumbering) users. The god of Treachery and Honor have lost most of their points the last half tick.
He only has ever had one, it was just bookkeeping errors.
"It would seem that someone has stolen the Slumbering God's essence without council approval. If we are to take it, we should do it openly and fairly. Would anyone like to fess up to this, before my paranoia causes me to go on a witch hunt?"It was never stated that it required council approval either; although if it appears to be a problem, making such a rule might be an idea worth proposing in the future. That being said, taking it and redistributing it, while potentially worth consideration is likely something that might very well kill them. That also should be taken into account.
Also I think we should just let the 3.00 pass though if noone object, just change it to make as many mortal as the essence can provideGood idea.
Also I think we should just let the 3.00 pass though if noone object, just change it to make as many mortal as the essence can provideGood idea.
Support the above idea
(Also, yellow is a miserable color to read)
"Indeed. The god of randomness talks sense for once."Also I think we should just let the 3.00 pass though if noone object, just change it to make as many mortal as the essence can provideGood idea.
Support the above idea
(Also, yellow is a miserable color to read)
Kli continues to watch the Hummingbirds' civilisation develop.The Hummingbirds begin colonizing other trees, breeding more quickly to fill the gaps. They develop an unparalleled oral tradition of songs, stories, spells, and sites coupled to the close trade relations with the Luminees, Mountwyrms, and Gruen. Although the novelty of their goods eventually declines, the demand for almost impossibly well-weaved wicker products remains strong, leading many to hire themselves out as singer-woodweavers.
Blah the world is geting blan and boring, I would create some creatures for the world that roams the world at night and cause nightmare to it inhabitants. I think a few thousands of these will be interesting for the development of the mortal. They all will be in spirit form but exist in the copereal world and appear to the mortals as they please.(Varee: -2 Essence)
Varee summon a horde of ghost like mystical creature to huant the mortal in both world.
You have done well.The golems immediately put this terraforming to good use by flattening out long strips of land connecting villages to create the first large-scale, deliberate roads. The roads further increase trade volume passing through golem settlements, and slowly, golems become known not only as brokers of trade everywhere but also as excellent engineers. They will eventually pave them with rhyolitic rock generated from their Well, further expanding trade.
Khaziraad reveals to golems the secrets of teraforming magic. The spells require so much power that hundrets of golems would need to work together to cast one, yet it would shape a piece of land to their colective will.
(( Also, I support making humanoids.))
"I still intend to make my share of the humanoids Star Elves if possible." Anath notes before turning to more important tasks.(Anath: 7 Essence)
As his fellow gods argue and squabble, Anath creates two asteroid belts, one in each world's solar system.
Plan: Just do 03.00 already(It should be. That's over 70% approval. Even if the other three opposed that would still leave the vote at over 60% approval, which is the requirements for an opposed resolution to pass. In my own humble opinion, of course.)
+8 from Varee, Grauel, Stirk, Azem, Cim, Kli, Serac, Khaziraad
? from Anath
(I don't know. Is +8/11 enough support to execute it? I think it is.)
I guide a few of the Ritan to shallower waters/the coast, to show them the sun.The Ritan follow you and see, for the first time, the photic zone bathed in light. They are so deeply moved at the sight (and the concept of sight itself) that many just stand still, transfixed by the appearance of previously unperceptible* sights. Their brains rapidly work to associate visual shapes with the crude auditory shadows they had previously used as a primary form of perception.
Azem checks on the progress, if any, of the Mountwyrms and Gem Dragons.Some Mountwyrms on World 1 are calling out to Varee to grant them all the Eyes of the Shiny One. This business is, frankly enough getting incredibly silly, and they may need a few reminders of what actual greed is. It is also distracting Mountwyrm workers from continuing work on Alprozem's temple of Azem (and his impressively shiny scales).
(As a note, I was picturing the Star Elves as living half underground, half above ground. Hard to do star magic without stars. So they live in caves, but the town itself, and most public buildings, are on the surface... just with lots of underground connections and expansions.)(OK. Perhaps the previously described caravan set up shop on the surface near an elven settlement, in that case.)
The Star Elves, being skilled miners from so much digging, and having ample metal for the same reason, probably sell fine metalwork of various types, ranging from long sheets of metal with really good starmaps on them to really fancy forks and spoons, as well as other high quality products. The same stands for stone, and while they can't compete with golems for large scale stone structures, their small craftswork is exceedingly fine... and even if they aren't as good builders as golems, they're probably cheaper to hire.
They'd also be willing to sell raw ores.
Anath will also check in one the state of the Star Dragons.
(Serac: -2 Essence)(Congrats, Kaladin, you just invented the world's first WMDs. ;))
Terrible storms rage as the caravan struggles to return to a settlement, and drought follows the Ritan scales everywhere (after the storms, naturally). Perhaps, in later ages, these scales will be made into a weapon of last resort, contained in pockets of Void until a situation demands their use.
(Regarding your planned action, could you be more specific with the number of humanoids to create?)
(Congrats, Kaladin, you just invented the world's first WMDs. ;))
Just make them human damn it. Two arms, two legs, one head and fairly intelligent. This proposal have been going on way too long. Just give each of them some random facial feature and get on with it.....
"This is a good week for you, God of Randomness. This is a fine proposal. We can simply make the creatures unaligned humans everyone should be happy with. They may worship who they wish, and show all of our spheres equally. After all, it would not be very appropriate to use council funds for our pet races that have already been created, this would benefit us all equally."
"This is a good week for you, God of Randomness. This is a fine proposal. We can simply make the creatures unaligned humans everyone should be happy with. They may worship who they wish, and show all of our spheres equally. After all, it would not be very appropriate to use council funds for our pet races that have already been created, this would benefit us all equally."I suppose that I should support this now... catching up on things has taken a while. I will donate... hmm, 3 essence.
Azem: You create 300 Template Humans on world A. Perhaps, one day, their descendants will form a knightly order of some sort.(Wait so are these actual sentient, sapient, unaligned humans? Can I awaken? :O)
(I don't know. Does your awakening condition trigger on the creation of Template Humanoids?)
(Jeopardy question: What do you do when someone asks if your god is awake?)(I don't know. Does your awakening condition trigger on the creation of Template Humanoids?)
(Just say yes!)
(Jeopardy question: What do you do when someone asks if your god is awake?)
(I don't know. Does your awakening condition trigger on the creation of Template Humanoids?)(It's supposed to trigger when normal humans are created but if these Template Humans are just "practice" humans then it won't trigger.)
Make a domesticated combination of electric eels and a manta ray for the Ritan, to defend their borders from hostile creatures.Chip in 1 essence.
(You named your god after a Chinese food restaurant?)(God name generator, actually. Got any suggestions?)
"Hello, my young brother."
The god then changed to a young woman with golden hair and green eyes.(I think you meant 'sister'.)
"Or maybe this one. Yes, this one will do, but I'll also need a name..."
(God name generator, actually. Got any suggestions?)(
(I think you meant 'sister'.)
(I do the same thing! Use google translate to random languages and alter it a bit. Gruen for example was the result of me butchering the German word for green.)
(Good suggestions, but I think I'll stick with Yaos.)
"Perhaps the new young gods will bring life back to this council?"Ooo that reminds me! We should call the first world 'Atem' and the second world 'Bakura'. How does that sound?
(I wasn't. I just decided after reading the suggestions to just stick with Yaos. I kinda like the name now.)Quote(Good suggestions, but I think I'll stick with Yaos.)
(Pff. So you where sarcastic in the end.)
Ooo that reminds me! We should call the first world 'Atem' and the second world 'Bakura'. How does that sound?
(I wasn't. I just decided after reading the suggestions to just stick with Yaos. I kinda like the name now.)
(How many sapients are you allowed to create once you donate to 3.00?)
"I'd like to see YOU come up with good names!" >:(QuoteOoo that reminds me! We should call the first world 'Atem' and the second world 'Bakura'. How does that sound?
"Incredibly stupid. Why does nobody come up with good names for our planet? Even then, we have a whole spirit world to name."
"I'd like to see YOU come up with good names!" >:((
Has anyone heard anything from the void recently? The silence is suspicious...
No, I am wondering. The mysterious figure was spotted again...QuoteHas anyone heard anything from the void recently? The silence is suspicious..."Are you worried that the Void has taken back all the Essence that it has thrown at you? You have not seem to have feared it before..."
Send a group of Luminee Diplomat with intricate writings on the Light and some Luminee Artwork toward the Gruen
Well, you do realize that plant based entities are totally dependant on Light? So I am sure the Luminees are totally safe with your gruens.
Grauel attempts to issue a major-level retcon such that the Grauel reproduce by spores instead of as fruit. The GM asks "Wasn't this always the case to begin with? My headcanon always had them as moss-like spore-forming intelligence."(Yes and no. Originally they grew out of tree like structures that grew out of some moss like substance. The tree like structures made the Gruen as well as the spores that would develop into new patches of moss that would later develop into new trees which could produce new Gruen... or something like that... Yeah it's much simpler just to say that they grow out of the ground directly from spores.)
Yaos (Humans): 20/20, 5-6(What does the 5-6 mean?)
"Fusil! You are the god of weapons. My Faithful on Keshan require weapons in order to protect themselves from the Gruen and the Heretics who worship them. I implore you to send your angels and help them! You will receive aid from my prophet there to help your angels should they need it."
"To the rest of the council I have a proposal: that the most faithful of our followers and our prophets and our highest of clergy should have their souls upon death appear in afterlives of our own individual designs. I wish to share in their company after their mortal bodies have expired but am unable to do so. It saddens me greatly."
A bit of a stingy reaction don't you think? I helped pay for the humans too and I deserve my cut one way or another. I don't mind you arming them and teaching them to defend themselves, but if you plan to start throwing curses around and involving angels, expect me to do the same. Believe me, I have not been idle all these ticks before your birth and I do not appreciate you intervening so directly with those who serve me or my creations.
(Also, we now have a unique Angel of War (Tykki: Weapons) and a unique Angel of Famine (Devourer: Hunger). Anyone want to make a unique Angel of Death or a unique Angel of Pestilence (or a unique Angel of Conquest) and a few unique horses?)
A bit of a stingy reaction don't you think? I helped pay for the humans too and I deserve my cut one way or another. I don't mind you arming them and teaching them to defend themselves, but if you plan to start throwing curses around and involving angels, expect me to do the same. Believe me, I have not been idle all these ticks before your birth and I do not appreciate you intervening so directly with those who serve me or my creations."I do appreciate your donation and the donations of the other gods - save perhaps some" he glares at The Light while saying that, "it was Azem who triggered my awakening while the council just went on and on talking about what the humanoids should be and how to go about sharing their loyalties. Moreover, I do not mind my followers worshipping other gods, and that includes you. What I DO mind is them worshipping MORTALS. ESPECIALLY when said mortal are creatures that literally EAT THEM. This is entirely unacceptable! If you want my vendetta against the Gruen to cease then instruct your people to remove humans from their diet!"
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Of course, I have no problem with the angels teaching the humans how to use weapons but I do not wish to see them directly combat my creations.
"I do appreciate your donation and the donations of the other gods - save perhaps some" he glares at The Light while saying that, "it was Azem who triggered my awakening while the council just spent on and on talking about how what the humanoids should be and how to go about sharing them. Moreover, I do not mind my followers worshipping other gods, and that includes you. What I DO mind is them worshipping MORTALS. ESPECIALLY when said mortal are creatures that literally EAT THEM. This is entirely unacceptable! If you want my vendetta against the Gruen to cease then instruct your people to remove humans from their diet!"
"As I suggested before, you are the god of the Humans. With just a bit of essence, you can clear their minds away from worshiping the Gruen if you so wish. Then organize your men into a proper military, wall of your cities, and otherwise separate yourself from them. Other races have had success not being eaten by trading with them. Maybe you could create a plant who's sap is foul tasting or even venomous, for your humans to wear as an armor, or cloves that make the humans poisonous when eaten, or as the Ocean god had done summon up beasts to defend them. There is plenty that can be done on your end, without intervention from the God of Hunger. You would likely be more successful, and less likely to make an enemy of him, young god.""I thank you for your words, Fusil, but I cannot take your advice. Firstly, I am already having second thoughts about the limitation on life I gave the Heretics. Vile as they are they are still humans and I care for them and their free will. Bending their very thoughts is taboo for me and I will not partake in it.
The Gruen serve me and thus those who serve the Gruen also serve me. That applies regardless of how direct or indirect you may perceive it to be. If I wish to take my share and use them in more circuitous ways then that is my decision not yours. Now if you want the Gruen to remove humans from their diet, then by all means make them strong enough that it is not worth my Gruen's time trying to eat them. Until then though, humans are among the most abundant species on the planet and I see no reason why the Gruen should not be able to utilize this ample resource as food.So be it.
god emperor(angel emperor. Also, don't humans outnumber Gruen by like, a billion to one? What are a bunch of measly spores going to do?)
god emperor(angel emperor. Also, don't humans outnumber Gruen by like, a billion to one? What are a bunch of measly spores going to do?)
(Also *Groggily counts* Don't we have 15 players instead of 13?)Counting the inactive players, yes. If not, then it's 13.
(Deities lists: updated)(Blech. Don't know why I thought it was 4. In any case I actually gave the Emperor instructions to build fortifications with the intent that he'd get the angels and also humans to build them. A pair of angels can't build enough castles/walls/forts/whatever to protect humanity all by themselves.......
(I'm not sure about the war being limited to Keshan necessarily, but it may actually be restricted to specific human regions.)
(Yaos: You have only two basic angels.)
(Yaos: -3 Essence)
Yaos: You delegate command over your two basic angels to your Angel-Emperor. They are to create fortifications for the humans. You also create 100 000 more humans.
The Emperor offers the Gem Dragons gold and silver and gems and other treasures now and after the war in exchange for military assistance against the Gruen.
(Also, what do the Gem Dragons do in response to the Emperor's gifts of gold and silver?)(And gems. Can't forget about the gems.)
(If you're asking my opinion, Azem can probably out-bribe the Angel-Emperor, and they either know or believe this.)(Wait wait wait. Is Azem against Yaos? Why is he against Yaos? He has literally nothing to do with this war. Does he just not want his Gem Dragons to get involved in the war? Does he have something against Yaos? Does he have something against humans? This just came out of left field.)
what mercenaries
The Gem Dragons graciously accept the gifts of gold and silver.
I note a conspicuous lack of enlisting or preparing for war. They seem to have made preparations--in their homelands.(When I said 'the Angel-Emperor offers the Gem Dragons stuff for firepower' I meant individual Gem Dragons, not the entire bloody race! It's basically a 'Come to the Empire of Man and fight for us! You get booty once you join!' thing, not a 'Here, entire race, have some expensive shit. Please join us now that you have all our expensive shit' kind of thing.)
(For the moment, Azem is preparing for the possibility of having to defend trade partners(Humanity is the one playing defence here! Invaded by Gruens and Heretics!)
((Andres, thet is the shoodiest picture of the Emperah I have ever seen. Where did you even find it?))(Google Images. It was the first picture to come up. I saw the one that you suggested and it looks better but he's a bit too young. I need the Angel-Emperor to be middle-aged. I won't say why. On that note, I found another picture of him. He's adorable.)
"We have a deal! Now here's what I propose...""I am against using Council resources for this. Build them with your own if you're inclined. The Council should not pick a side, but drive a peaceful solution to the conflict."
(Then it's not canon.)"We have a deal! Now here's what I propose...""I am against using Council resources for this. Build them with your own if you're inclined. The Council should not pick a side, but drive a peaceful solution to the conflict."
((Unless that was only directed at Khaziraad and wasn't a Council proposal, in which case this post is not canon.))
"I'm not impressed. You had no business waging holy war over this.""Us simply picking sides in a war elevates it to holy war. You know, cos we're gods. It's rather unavoidable."
In response to Anath:
"You don't want to be responsible for your actions. You want to do whatever you want with no repercussions. I understand. But tell me, if I suddenly decided to indiscriminately smite all your followers, what would you do? Smite mine? You can't. Complain to the Council? I broke no rule. Insult me and always vote against me out of spite? That is petty. What if I did it with such subtlety I wouldn't be caught? Could you do anything? A code of conduct is good for all of us, especially those who haven't taken precautions in case the current situation continues."
"Clause eight. What if I created a free-willed beast, and said beast went on to slay every living thing? Would it be the beast's fault, who misunderstood life, or mine, who allowed it to happen? As gods, we can and ought to control our followers. We are and should be responsible for them and their actions.""The creations of the god of hunger has already feasted upon the creations of another god, should you recall." Anath reminds the other god. "They were rightly punished for this, but it was their actions and thusly it was their punishment as well. Free will is the right to one's own choices. If a god was to order his creation to cause extinction, that would be the will and responsibility of a god. But should a creation use their free will to freely decide upon something we dislike and would punish, that is their freely chosen choice, and our freely chosen rebuke."
"You don't want to be responsible for your actions. You want to do whatever you want with no repercussions. I understand. But tell me, if I suddenly decided to indiscriminately smite all your followers, what would you do? Smite mine? You can't. Complain to the Council? I broke no rule. Insult me and always vote against me out of spite? That is petty. What if I did it with such subtlety I wouldn't be caught? Could you do anything? A code of conduct is good for all of us, especially those who haven't taken precautions in case the current situation continues."
"Clause eight. What if I created a free-willed beast, and said beast went on to slay every living thing? Would it be the beast's fault, who misunderstood life, or mine, who allowed it to happen? As gods, we can and ought to control our followers. We are and should be responsible for them and their actions."
Blah let spike up the world!
Varee start some random natural disaster in random places(earthquake hurricane tsunami and stuff.)
""Perhaps you should go visit the great library, for you seem to be unaware of what free will actually means.""I may be mistaken, but I believe it doesn't mean we shouldn't take any responsibility for them. They were created by us and taught by us, until they can decide for themselves what is right, with no clouds of ignorance, we should not let them do completely everything as they will. I did propose graded free will some time ago, but it was rejected."
"I would smite yours. Do not think making them in secret keeps their existence secret forever, God of Order. Finding them is trivial when they get to any number, especially when you have many Earthly servants..""Who said they were possible to smite at all? Who said they could get to any number? Who said they were down to earth? I didn't. Finding them is more than trivial, believe me."
"We can make hypothetical all day if we wish to. That beast is not your follower, you would be no more responsible than if a Dwarf somehow wiped out the other races, or an Elf, or a man. Aside from that, we have a cycle of reincarnation, he would have done no lasting damage. ""The beast wouldn't necessarily be my follower, but had I not created it, or given it free will, or refused to control or teach it in any way, or let it do everything truly as it wanted without any instruction on what is right, nothing would have happened. I would have had the power to stop it, but I wouldn't have. That is why I would be responsible."
"*sigh* This is why we need a code of conduct, don't you agree? There is no time for a full proposal for stopping Varee, I suppose. Yaos, as the God of Protection, would you help me with this?"QuoteVaree start some random natural disaster in random places(earthquake hurricane tsunami and stuff.)
VETOVETOVETO.
If you guys want me to stop randomly causing "bad thing", then You need to start doing something more interesting than talking to mortal all day....."Couldn't you randomly give all your Essence away? You seem to misunderstand godhood; tending to mortals is an important part of it."
"I may be mistaken, but I believe it doesn't mean we shouldn't take any responsibility for them. They were created by us and taught by us, until they can decide for themselves what is right, with no clouds of ignorance, we should not let them do completely everything as they will. I did propose graded free will some time ago, but it was rejected."
"Who said they were possible to smite at all? Who said they could get to any number? Who said they were down to earth? I didn't. Finding them is more than trivial, believe me."
"The beast wouldn't necessarily be my follower, but had I not created it, or given it free will, or refused to control or teach it in any way, or let it do everything truly as it wanted without any instruction on what is right, nothing would have happened. I would have had the power to stop it, but I wouldn't have. That is why I would be responsible."
I twnd to mortal, but that doesnt mean you need to spend all day babysitting them, they are suppose to work for us not be babysitted by us. If you want some of my essence then maybe we can gamble?
I twnd to mortal, but that doesnt mean you need to spend all day babysitting them, they are suppose to work for us not be babysitted by us. If you want some of my essence then maybe we can gamble?"I don't trust your dice, and I wouldn't gamble with you even if we used fair ones."
(Free will was ACCEPTED. Scroll up a bit and check council proposals.)((Graded free will wasn't. Check right under it.))
"I could simply uncreate them.""You couldn't, actually. I know most of the limits of our godly power; I have done some experiments."
"If a man has a child who then becomes a criminal, is it the man's fault? Should the Father of each criminal be punished? As a god of law, surly you see how foolish such would be. Why should be be penalized for what followers not under our direct control or guidance do?""They are under our guidance, at least until they are ready to be truly independent. Yes, the father of a criminal should be punished, if he didn't teach his son properly. If it was the child disobeying the father's teachings, then he is not at fault."
"As for gambling, I came up with a great game called "Russian Roulette", perhaps we could try that some time...'"This I agree with completely."
((Graded free will wasn't. Check right under it.))
"You couldn't, actually. I know most of the limits of our godly power; I have done some experiments."
"They are under our guidance, at least until they are ready to be truly independent. Yes, the father of a criminal should be punished, if he didn't teach his son properly. If it was the child disobeying the father's teachings, then he is not at fault."
so how about you explain how this game of yours work?
"Again, you are fooling yourself. As it was made without council approval, there is little that is keeping us from unmaking them, especially if two or more of us team up to do so. Our godly power has no limit.""Cross me and I will show you where your powers end. God of Weapons or not, for I wouldn't need one."
"If you truly believe that, I have trouble intrusting you with the laws of this world. Only the criminal should be punished for his crimes, you can not place the blame on others simply because it suits your purpose to do so. Punishing others for the crime of someone is a gross miscarriage of justice.""Let me put this in terms you will certainly understand. If you shoot someone, do you punish the bullet?"
"Cross me and I will show you where your powers end. God of Weapons or not, for I wouldn't need one."
"You should know in law, a threat like that would justify me acting on self defense.""Perhaps if we had any laws. Act however you want, but beware: I know both our limits, and where mine aren't. You call me arrogant, I call you ignorant."
"Guns do not kill, people do. People aren't guns, we gave them free will and the ability to act on their own.""Indeed. If we start go backwards, the bullet would have been hard to fire without the gun. The gun wouldn't have been built or fired if the man didn't know how to or want to. The man wouldn't have known how to build a gun or wanted to fire it if someone else hadn't taught him. And these someones can be traced back to you. Free will allows them to do what they want, but what we teach them tells them what to want."
If instead I where to teach this lesson by driving a group of humans to banditry, should the God of Humans be punished?""Not necessarily. For one, humans are unaligned right now, so in teaching them banditry you would claim them for yourself. If they were followers of Yaos, several things may happen. They might renounce Yaos and follow you instead, making you responsible. They might kill in the name of Yaos, in which case Yaos would be responsible for negligence, that is, not teaching them any better before someone else did. You would also break the Code in doing so, and you would be definitely punished, not only deemed responsible. They might also refuse banditry, being taught by Yaos to respect their fellow man, in which case only you have broken the Code. As noted, 'Responsibility MAY OR MAY NOT imply the necessity of sanctions.'"
"Perhaps if we had any laws. Act however you want, but beware: I know both our limits, and where mine aren't. You call me arrogant, I call you ignorant."
"Indeed. If we start go backwards, the bullet would have been hard to fire without the gun. The gun wouldn't have been built or fired if the man didn't know how to or want to. The man wouldn't have known how to build a gun or wanted to fire it if someone else hadn't taught him. And these someones can be traced back to you. Free will allows them to do what they want, but what we teach them tells them what to want."
"Not necessarily. For one, humans are unaligned right now, so in teaching them banditry you would claim them for yourself. If they were followers of Yaos, several things may happen. They might renounce Yaos and follow you instead, making you responsible. They might kill in the name of Yaos, in which case Yaos would be responsible for negligence, that is, not teaching them any better before someone else did. You would also break the Code in doing so, and you would be definitely punished, not only deemed responsible. They might also refuse banditry, being taught by Yaos to respect their fellow man, in which case only you have broken the Code. As noted, 'Responsibility MAY OR MAY NOT imply the necessity of sanctions.'"
So how would a gun approach work on gambling if we god cant actually die? If you want to try Russian roulette thing-a-magicka, i suggest all the participant put in essence and who ever get"shot" get the pool, sound good?
"Just stay away from my followers and we will have no trouble. Surly the god of Law can see the value of debate instead of slaughtering those who disagree wit you. Just keep your hands off my Faithfull...""Who said anything about slaughter? I didn't. That would be more suitable for you, I prefer subtler methods. For example, what if I said you have already lost this war we're drifting towards?"
"Surly, you are joking? I cannot conceive how any logical being would put the blame the man who taught him how to fire the gun. Do we blame chemistry teachers for drug manufacturers? These people are responsible for themselves. The man who makes these things possible unintentionally is not at fault. You simply cannot place responsibility on people who had absolutely nothing to do with committing the crime, and no sane man would suggest otherwise.""If you make something possible unintentionally, you hadn't thought over the full ramifications of it. Ignorance when you could know is no excuse for a mistake. Having absolutely nothing to do with committing a crime is false if there is a way to stop it, for inaction is also an action. I wouldn't blame a chemistry teacher for a drug manufacturer, unless that teacher specifically taught him to make drugs. I would blame the one who did, and the one who allowed it to happen. If we assume this person is the new inventor of drugs, who made them existing possible in the first place? Us, the gods. And we could prevent it using various means. And for that final quip, would you call any of us by your definition of sane?"
"I would not have to teach them banditry. I wouldn't have to align them. I would simply have to subtly nudge them towards it, using the butterfly effect as I had with the bear. Make them fall asleep while cooking, burning their house down. Leave them with nothing but a weapon, just as the caravan went through. A group of people like that, and a new bandit group is formed. I wouldn't even have to do it in the open. You claim to have knowlage of the extent of our powers, but that seems to be once again your arrogance speaking for you. If you do not believe me, try something out for yourself.""I can think of many ways that scenario could resolve, and spontaneously inventing banditry seems unlikely. More likely, they'd ask for help from the caravan, or whatever their particular god had taught them. They simply don't have the independence to suddenly decide to abandon society. The Butterfly Effect is one of the methods of applying power with a high limit. However, it does have some limits, as for example complexity and thus unlikeliness increases."
If he is arrogant enough to claim complete lordship over something he never even made then I care little if he feels antagonized by my actions towards the humans."I shall remind you that I have direct power over all humans. I simply choose not to indulge it. I have already made a new race that feeds on the sun alone, and would only hunger underground where they cannot fit in the first place, or while they are asleep and thus do not feel it. Making a new race of humans that does not feel hunger is a trivial thing for me. So do not insult me again..."
And are you honestly going to go along with that just because of his title? Perhaps I should declare myself the God of all creation and declare holy war and lay down curses on anyone who touches anything under my "domain". They weren't even humans who follow him. Maybe I'll make my secondary sphere plants and complain when your creations feed themselves.
It's absolutely ridiculous and a situation only caused by him claiming all of something he had no part in but an empty title and then having the audacity to think his claim is of more worth than anyone else's.
"Who said anything about slaughter? I didn't. That would be more suitable for you, I prefer subtler methods. For example, what if I said you have already lost this war we're drifting towards?"
((Knowledge of guns I can handwave easily, but of chemistry teachers and drug manufacturers? Let's think inside the box of our little fantasy world that has nothing resembling modern real life chemistry, shall we?))
"I can think of many ways that scenario could resolve, and spontaneously inventing banditry seems unlikely. More likely, they'd ask for help from the caravan, or whatever their particular god had taught them. They simply don't have the independence to suddenly decide to abandon society. The Butterfly Effect is one of the methods of applying power with a high limit. However, it does have some limits, as for example complexity and thus unlikeliness increases."
"So Fusil, I've been thinking really hard and I don't want the sword to be alive. I just seems kinda wierd, you know? But still, thank you for making it. It's reaaaaalllllly nice!" :D "I'll get my little Emperor to keep working on my end of the deal now. It's just so difficult to do with all the war going on." ;)
(won't say specifically, might tip you guys off where the weak spot is)
(Correction: ALL of my characters in ALL of my games run off of references. With exactly TWO exceptions.)Quote(won't say specifically, might tip you guys off where the weak spot is)
(Nape of the neck. DUH. Your entire character runs off of references. )
"Do I dare even comment on that?"(Correction: ALL of my characters in ALL of my games run off of references. With exactly TWO exceptions.)Quote(won't say specifically, might tip you guys off where the weak spot is)
(Nape of the neck. DUH. Your entire character runs off of references. )
"Can't we just stop fighting you guys? You're tearing me apart with all your arguing." :'(
What kind of prayers is Yaos getting from Kenath? Slysha is irrelevant.
Valkiss has been struck down!
yet there are none here with unexplainable power surges, so the end recievers are clear. And I think I shall Oppose 11.00(How do you know? The next tick with everyone's essence has not been posted yet.)
yet there are none here with unexplainable power surges, so the end recievers are clear. And I think I shall Oppose 11.00(How do you know? The next tick with everyone's essence has not been posted yet.)
Why do you all presume that killing a god has to do with obtaining their essence? Gaining essence is rather simple in ways that do not antagonize and frighten the other gods. If someone is going to drain or kill a god, it's just as possible that there is another completely unrelated reason for doing so and that the culprit in question never even cared for the essence in the first place.
"Do I dare even comment on that?""Why are you always so mean to me, Azem?" D: "You're the one who awakened me and I'm just so glad and thankful and why don't you like me?" D':
Gods died."Why are these bad things even happening to us? Can't they see we have enough problems already? Now they're killing us! I'm so scared now." )':
"I want to be the best at everything I do!""I will make you the very best at two things. Choose wisely" ;)
"I wish to slay a Gem Dragon and make its scales into fine clothing."
"I wish all the Luminees in town would leave."
"I want to know more about these Void things."
"I just want a jelly roll. Maybe my children will at least survive another day."
"I wish the war would stop so I can get back with the caravan."
"I want to become a god! Of Conquest!"
"Human, if you wish to return home just do so, I shall aid your children however. If Yaos allows I shall bring them a healing light."Yup. This.
The caravan is just there to trade, they're not looking for alliances or anything.I was already planning on telling them to stay out of the war, you just sent the caravan before I got a chance to get on my computer.
Anath encourages his creations to stay out of the war the God of Humans is attempting to conduct, and also listens for what prayers they are sending him.Anath continues to listen for the prayers of his followers...
Joha has constructed an artifact that burns life force to assist in the use of magic. She has also created Kifo, a unique Angel of [size=10]D[/size][size=8]EATH[/size].^This is a thing.^
"I propose that war between gods should not be dealt by the mortals, but by playing an intricate game of strategy spanning the two worlds. The pieces of this game shall be monsters, angels, heroes and similar.""I won't listen to or do anything you say because you didn't donate to the proposal that would've awakened me!" >:I "You can give me 3 Essence if you want to apologise."
I shall listen to suggestions of Yuvi the Crab, what does it have to say? What is it doing?
And what do you mean by that?QuoteJoha has constructed an artifact that burns life force to assist in the use of magic. She has also created Kifo, a unique Angel of [size=10]D[/size][size=8]EATH[/size].^This is a thing.^
@Joha: "Hey there girrrfrieeeeeeeen!" ;D "So I was wondering if you could get some of those wolf animals and make them smaller and friendlier and live as long as humans. I'm sure my people would really like some non-human life companions and they'd love the both of us for making that happen! They can even be of many shapes and sizes so some are big and some a small and some are shaggy and some have smooth fur and all that! It's also the perfect time to do it what with the Staff being active right now. What do you say?"Hm, sure! That shouldn't be too hard.
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@Fusil: "Heya Fusil! I was kinda wondering what it would take to perhaps get some of my best soldier some more fire weapons? The last one you made for us was really cool (hehe. geddit? cool? cos it's on fire? :'D) and getting something like that but, like, something that humans could use would be great. I only need about a hundred. Could you please do that for me Fusil? Pleeeeeeeaaaaaaase?" :) "I was also thinking of putting some kind of artillery on top of the big walls that protect the Empire. What do you suggest?"
(The size of the letters weren't affected.)Quote from: YaosAnd what do you mean by that?QuoteJoha has constructed an artifact that burns life force to assist in the use of magic. She has also created Kifo, a unique Angel of [size=10]D[/size][size=8]EATH[/size].^This is a thing.^
Hm, sure! That shouldn't be too hard."That's wonderful!" :D
(And now you made the avatar. All Gruel has to do is make his guys immune to animation-inspired creatures and he would be invincible :-\)(Eh. I've still got my
"If your main quest is to fight the Gruen, I can see why fire is a valid choice for weapons. Fire swords, however, have limited application when fighting anything else. I will guide humanity in early sulfur and petroleum based arms, such as Greek Fire and BC incendiaries like burning pitch, if you wish. Such weaponry would create havoc among plant based life, while being more widely available and easily renewable. I am not the god of smiths, after all. As for the walls, you will have to field something cheap. I suggest not getting into protracted sieges against your enemy, they will devour all nearby food supply while the God of Hunger curses your men to starve. Catapults would allow you to throw cheap or burning material if necessary, though if they get close you will have to stick to dropping burning material from your walls to ward them off.""So...uuuuhhh...none of us in the Empire know how to make that stuff?" X) "Could one of your angels perhaps show us? Don't worry about his trying to starve us out though. I have plans..."
Sure. Teach them how to craft basic weapons from organic matter including the flesh of the various different types of Gruen. I suppose they have an excess of that particular resource."I'm guessing you don't want peace, then?" >:(
"I'm guessing you don't want peace, then?" >:(You say as you simultaneously ask for flaming swords. Perhaps I just like the idea of my Gruen walking around with pointy sticks made from their own flesh. Perhaps you planned to use those flaming swords for fancy parades or cutting lumber.
"So...uuuuhhh...none of us in the Empire know how to make that stuff?" X) "Could one of your angels perhaps show us? Don't worry about his trying to starve us out though. I have plans..."
"If you don't want me to use them, just declare peace and tell your Gruen to not eat any humans ever. It's very simple.""I'm guessing you don't want peace, then?" >:(You say as you simultaneously ask for flaming swords. Perhaps I just like the idea of my Gruen walking around with pointy sticks made from their own flesh. Perhaps you planned to use those flaming swords for fancy parades or cutting lumber.
"Would the designs still work if I upsized them so the Humanos Controlados can use them?"Quote"So...uuuuhhh...none of us in the Empire know how to make that stuff?" X) "Could one of your angels perhaps show us? Don't worry about his trying to starve us out though. I have plans..."
"Of course. Feuerwaffe will teach the humans to make simple incendiary weapons right away. And how to use them without injuring themselves."
"Would the designs still work if I upsized them so the Humanos Controlados can use them?"
"If you don't believe my hypothetical, why not try the domino effect to a similarly complicated degree, so we can see if it works or not?""I don't doubt the power of the butterfly effect. You seem to doubt the power of your own words, however. What does this mean? You will understand it soon."
"What weapon would best suit flying Mountwyrms?"
"The scramble to join the arms race seems to have begun, brothers. You ought to understand that it's not always a good idea; you should instead learn your own sphere to prepare, for what would you do if Fusil, or any other ally, turned on you? He did openly admit that he is playing both sides, after all."
"I don't doubt the power of the butterfly effect. You seem to doubt the power of your own words, however. What does this mean? You will understand it soon."
"As your proposal has been struck down thrice with no one to support it, it would seem I already won. Now that you have not watched your tongue as I have warned you, any harm that comes to my followers will be placed squarely on your shoulders and retaliated against as if it was open warfare.""Placed on my shoulders, as if I was responsible? Yes, that is what I would do. But how am I responsible for what my free-willed creations do?"
"Placed on my shoulders, as if I was responsible? Yes, that is what I would do. But how am I responsible for what my free-willed creations do?"
"Not this again!" D':
"Then do. With no code of conduct, neither of us can stop the other. But tell me, how do you plan to crush me? Under your hypocrisy?"
"I think I can settle this dispute. You're both equally annoying. There. Nothing else needs to be said.""I agree and disagree. This is a very annoying matter, but it needs to be addressed. Either we limit our powers, or we don't."
Clearly the only way to settle once and for all who is right is to go to war as the God of Ambition and I have. The winner... wins.[/color]"I wouldn't deem what is about to happen a 'war'. More a 'display of repercussions'."
"Actually, my name is Yaos, not Yao. It has an 's' at the end. I also like to go by 'God of Humans'. I am technically the god of ambition but that kinda tends get me into trouble like how now I barely have any Essence. My ambition really got the better of me, hehe." ^_^'"Not this again!" D':
I actually agree with Yao here; there's no point arguing.
Clearly the only way to settle once and for all who is right is to go to war as the God of Ambition and I have. The winner... wins.
"We...don't...then?""I think I can settle this dispute. You're both equally annoying. There. Nothing else needs to be said.""I agree and disagree. This is a very annoying matter, but it needs to be addressed. Either we limit our powers, or we don't."
"You are not well liked."I like him! He's kinda nice...and stuff."
"By destroying you followers, blasting your temples, and finishing by having you beg for mercy. I might kill you if you go too far, leaving only a distant memory. Your essence will bleed away until you are either dead or a quivering pile of pathetic mess.""Did...did you kill Treachery god then? W-was it you?" D:> *trembles*
"I think I can settle this dispute. You're both equally annoying. There. Nothing else needs to be said."I personally slightly favour Cim, but yes. Fight if you are going to fight. Otherwise, end this argument.
"Did...did you kill Treachery god then? W-was it you?" D:> *trembles*
"I like him! He's kinda nice...and stuff."
See now, you both keep talking like you could easily wipe the floor with the other. I can appreciate the hesitance you both share for a direct confrontation but if you both fail to carry through on what you say, it'll become progressively hard to take anyone seriously. Clearly verbal debates are not achieving the desired effect for either one of you. This is most likely one of those situations where you are both better off to just stop talking about all the horrible things you can do and actually do them.
(Andres, I fixed your name 5 minutes before you posted and you still manage to catch it in a quote. Truly impressive.)
"Don't be foolish. The god of Betrayal was a good friend of mine. It was him who came up with the brilliant reincarnation system from my ramblings. Aside from that, I am the one who brought attention to his being drained for all to ignore, and the one who preserved the Honor god. Wouldn't I ignore it if I was the one killing them?""I guess you have a point."
"We could just as easily say caring is the perfect cover you know. Just pointing that out for you.""Uhhhh.....!!!" *back to terrified*
"He outright threatened to kill innocent people over a law debate. A law debate to stop gods from killing mortals. ""He did? It's kind of hard to tell who's saying what when you two argue."
Yes, I have to agree. I don't know what you are bickering about."He outright threatened to kill innocent people over a law debate. A law debate to stop gods from killing mortals. ""He did? It's kind of hard to tell who's saying what when you two argue."
((I'm serious. I have no idea who's claiming what or whatever. Just so much bickering. Argh.))
"He outright threatened to kill innocent people over a law debate. A law debate to stop gods from killing mortals. ""One, I did not say that; I said I would show you my power. Two, if you don't want any law, I am more than glad to show you what is it like without them."
"I have stated many times that I do not wish to fight him, and will only do so to protect my charges in retaliation. I would be happiest if we both ended the 'conflict' here and focused on other things-like your war. Now, you are only feeding the flames of this conversation. To end it, we must all simply agree to not speak of it for now.""Neither do I want a war, but you, yourself prompted me to show my power. In your words:"
"If you don't believe my hypothetical, why not try the domino effect to a similarly complicated degree, so we can see if it works or not?""If you truly don't want war, you will end this after our experiment."
See now, you both keep talking like you could easily wipe the floor with the other. I can appreciate the hesitance you both share for a direct confrontation but if you both fail to carry through on what you say, it'll become progressively hard to take anyone seriously. Clearly verbal debates are not achieving the desired effect for either one of you. This is most likely one of those situations where you are both better off to just stop talking about all the horrible things you can do and actually do them."Who is to say I haven't acted yet?"
There's only so many ways you can describe how you intend to burn the enemy's lands to the ground, destroy their followers(Funny you should mention that.... ;))
"It isn't the mortals will to fight, it's our fight that the Mortals are caught in. A drug would just make things worse.""Exactly."
"I propose that war between gods should not be dealt by the mortals, but by playing an intricate game of strategy spanning the two worlds. The pieces of this game shall be monsters, angels, heroes and similar."I suppose you forgot me here...
I shall listen to suggestions of Yuvi the Crab, what does it have to say? What is it doing?
"Sorry Yaos I was sleepy, but if you do threaten me I shall not give you three essence. I will give you one out of pity, however, to show my good will. In the future, though, please restrain your tongue, when you want to force something out of your friends. Remember that your humans are always welcome in the courts of Light. I am of good will and peace."((Never mind that I warned you MULTIPLE TIMES over MULTIPLE DAYS. All is forgiven though.))
Send 1 essence to Yaos.
Yaos:"Congratulations! You are honorary god of jelly donuts! You will always be honorary god of jelly donuts even after you die and go to the afterlife! So long as you worship me though. You can't stay god without the afterlife and you can't have the afterlife if you don't worship me." :/ "But it's something!" :D
"I want to be the best at being a god and staying a god!"
"But I really wanted a coat of topaz scales."
"They stink and their skin glows and they like that heretic god of lights."
"Thank you for providing our family with jelly rolls." "I will be sure to sacrifice the youngest to a Gruen."
"Thank you for letting me go with the caravans, I guess."
"But I don't want to work hard! Being a general is just yelling nothing anyone can understand at the soldiers!"
WARNING: Making your very special humangel is likely to result in permadeath. Are you sure you wish to continue?NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
Joha: You give the humans some Star elf-bred dogs."Thank you Joha!" :D
Yaos: You order the construction of arms for an incendiary squad.((Hehehehe. They'll be more than just a mere 'incendiary squad'.))
(Varee: -4 Essence)((I was at work! I didn't even get a chance to veto this! Oh well. Better roll with it.))
You make it rain booze in the Dwarven fortresses and snow drugs in the human towns. Although this will undoubtedly annoy the other gods, it entertains the inhabitants of the settlements and you.
Sure we can make drug snow a annual event if you want to, I dont mind ......."Excellent! I'll announce it to everyone."
Sure we can make drug snow a annual event if you want to, I dont mind ......."Excellent! I'll announce it to everyone."
kSure we can make drug snow a annual event if you want to, I dont mind ......."Excellent! I'll announce it to everyone."
I wont be paying for it alone though, if you say so then we share the cost
An orphaned human has begun accumulating a large following of those opposed to fighting and the use of weapons. They name themselves the Breaker Knights, and their belief enchants the shields they carry, which now severely damage weapons and barely affect mortals. They seem to be particularly angry at Fusil.
"Breaker Knights. It seems the butterfly succeeded again. They're not even mine, but unaligned humans. Fusil, you might want to solve this little problem about to become. I did not even need to spend any Essence for this, imagine what I can do with more. You spent seven units of Essence on Tykki, correct? I only need one to disable her."
"They are not fighting for me. They are fighting against you. Out of their own, free will. But they wouldn't if I hadn't done that one small manipulation. Are they the only ones responsible? I don't think this invalidates my laws, considering I did this without them active. Au contraire, I see this as proof a code of conduct is necessary. Considering I managed to turn some populace against you with little effort on my part, and with nothing to stop me, do you really think mere 'gentleman's rules' are enough for us? We both know for a fact that one or more of us are scheming something. The God of Treachery may be dead, but his sphere isn't.
But if you truly think this debate is over and the proposal is dead, let's ask the others what they think. Three opposing votes out of thirteen is far from 'struck down', and I am willing to accept a revised set of rules, if one us made one."
"For something else, I abstain from proposal 12.00. A peaceful alternative would be excellent, but I don't play games at that level."
The Inner Wall of the Empire is equipped with a catapult. On firing, it's found that the catapult is just too high up and the ammo drops too slowly for anything besides a truly large amount of troops to be hit. On top of that, its effective range isn't very good. It can certainly shoot far but not with any modicum of accuracy what with the low ammo speed.
"You are supposed to but the catapults behind the wall. Butting artillery on the wall makes them vulnerable to fire, literally and figuratively. Catapults fire over the wall, while it and its keepers are safe and impossible to hit. That should fix most of your problems with it. Of course it still will not be very accurate, as it *is* mean to fight armies rather than individuals. Having your men with ranged weapons on the walls help direct volleys will help with that."A catapult is placed behind the wall. It tends to hit the actual wall most of the time until it gets moved back far enough and placed on a hill. It still hits the wall a few times and it doesn't go over the walls enough to not hit any Humanos Grande that would stand on top of it. The accuracy is a joke.
Grauel: After examining Gruen civilization closely, it appears that the main limiting factor preventing the Gruens from coalescing into one or a few empires is that many think they are powerful enough even with smaller states because of their secret feeding plans, which comprise a significant proportion of Gruen fighting. As you listen closely, you hear the following prayers:The first gruen is made into a house.
"I want to stay at home and not have to fight in the war."
"I want to eat many people and become stronger in the war."
"I want to sample a hundred different plants to see what they can do."
"I wish for a way to become much bigger quickly."
"Thank you Joha!" :DNo problem, sis! ;D
"I want to live forever."Sure!
"I hope the Angel of DEATH will be nice to my father when he dies."Noted, and passed along to Kifo.
"I wish these new bubble-shaped flowers would actually grow. I've already tried a lot, but no matter how I change them, they're still dying."I'll help create a version that will grow, shouldn't be hard.
"I want to become a grim soldier at the front lines of the war. Then, I'll chop through the enemies as if they're just pine cones."If the war comes to the forest, you will be among those who will defend it.
A catapult is placed behind the wall. It tends to hit the actual wall most of the time until it gets moved back far enough and placed on a hill. It still hits the wall a few times and it doesn't go over the walls enough to not hit any Humanos Grande that would stand on top of it. The accuracy is a joke.
"Fu-siiilllllllllll! It's still not working!" :(
Change to old man form.
"This is going worse than when they were on the walls. At least then they could hit things. I think I should just give up on the endeavour. There doesn't seem to be any way for catapults to work well with my walls."
((They are half-height AoT walls with double the width.))
(...no comment.)Quote from: Yaos"Thank you Joha!" :DNo problem, sis! ;D
(There's just no way I can get you to give me cannons, is there? :P I always thought the AoT walls were about 60 metres in height. In any case, mine are 30 metres. I'll do the thing you said, regardless.)QuoteA catapult is placed behind the wall. It tends to hit the actual wall most of the time until it gets moved back far enough and placed on a hill. It still hits the wall a few times and it doesn't go over the walls enough to not hit any Humanos Grande that would stand on top of it. The accuracy is a joke.
"Fu-siiilllllllllll! It's still not working!" :(
Change to old man form.
"This is going worse than when they were on the walls. At least then they could hit things. I think I should just give up on the endeavour. There doesn't seem to be any way for catapults to work well with my walls."
((They are half-height AoT walls with double the width.))
(AOT walls-50 meters. The velocity it takes to get 25 meter in height (25=xsin(45) assuming you are firing at a 45 degree angle)=35~M/s. Just use a bigger catapult and smaller projectiles, obviously. The physics is supposed to be kind of wonky anyway, just triple the size of your catapult while keeping the projectiles the same size.)
(...no comment.)(this seems to be becoming the norm between us, doesn't it?)
(Yaos is in old man form right now. I'll put up a picture of what he looks like when I get home.)Quote from: Yaos(...no comment.)(this seems to be becoming the norm between us, doesn't it?)
(There's just no way I can get you to give me cannons, is there? :P I always thought the AoT walls were about 60 metres in height. In any case, mine are 30 metres. I'll do the thing you said, regardless.)
A bigger catapult is used but the accuracy still sucks. The project is scrapped entirely because making hundreds (or possibly thousands) of catapults of such size would take a long time to build, possibly an even longer time to get into position, making and loading the ammunition is a bitch, and it's so hard to hit anything with them it's not even worth it.
(Fair point, although I don't recall Joha ever seeing you in that form. Not that it matters too much either way.)(Yaos is in old man form right now. I'll put up a picture of what he looks like when I get home.)Quote from: Yaos(...no comment.)(this seems to be becoming the norm between us, doesn't it?)
"God" of jelly donuts: "That's not godhood! That's extortion!""Think of it as...'training wheels. Once you handle your newfound on your own you can stop worshipping me and get worshippers on your own. Godhood is a lot harder than it sounds. Here's everything I need to know just to make one human..." I then proceed to shove into his brain literally every single molecule and atom and ounce of free will, plus every individual iota of soulstuff needed to make a human, and I do so in great detail. Why I DON'T do is give him a brain that is capable of handling the many yottabytes involved in doing so. The result should be my "accidentally" mind-crushing him.
The people are slightly disturbed by your overly enthusiastic speech.(Firstly, that wasn't my speech - that was the Angel-Emperor's. Secondly, I am never attempting fluff again. Ever.)
Gruen cults have led to superhumans with some level of Gruen abilities (but little tolerance for the laws against Gruen cultists).(Actually, the whole anti-Gruen thing is only happening on Keshan. Slyshan humans can make their own laws and whatever. The only real presence I have there is a prophet that's spreading my name and getting people to worship me.)
In other news, a band of rampaging Barrier Knights have burnt down a shrine dedicated to Fusil. This had the unfortunate side-effect of burning down the rest of the human town in which it was located after they left, causing nearly a hundred deaths. Has the release of the sphere of Treachery merely redistributed it to affect all the gods?The Barrier Knights have orders to hand over the perpetrators of the mass murder or be officially declared a terrorist group. If they refuse, I get to see the effectiveness of the Paladins' flamethrowers.
@Artisanii"Hey there Artisanii! I know we don't really talk a lot but I should let you know right now that I appreciate what your servants have done for the culture of my people. I was wondering, perhaps, if your servants can introduce something similar to what hey have done for our eyes, except for our ears? It would be really cool if you did." :)
In other news, a band of rampaging Barrier Knights have burnt down a shrine dedicated to Fusil. This had the unfortunate side-effect of burning down the rest of the human town in which it was located after they left, causing nearly a hundred deaths. Has the release of the sphere of Treachery merely redistributed it to affect all the gods?
"Fusil, this was only one band of Barrier Knights. It was unwise of Cim to give these unworthy people such power but perhaps not all of the Barrier Knights are as such. I have given them orders to give up the terrorists or else have themselves be labelled as terrorists. If they do not, you may have your angels destroy them. Save some for me though, they killed my people with fire and so deserve to be killed with fire."
@Artisanii"Hey there Artisanii! I know we don't really talk a lot but I should let you know right now that I appreciate what your servants have done for the culture of my people. I was wondering, perhaps, if your servants can introduce something similar to what hey have done for our eyes, except for our ears? It would be really cool if you did." :)
Anath nods. "I haven't had a single prayer about the void, even while the whispering and radiation was at their maximum level. What kind of prayers are you getting that involve the void?"
Glancing at the other gods, Anath sighs. "Here is my basic desire for what a code of conduct should have. Part One, Thou Shall Not Cause Megadeaths Or Extinction Events. Part Two, Thou Shall Not Seek the Death of Another God. Part Three, Thou Shall Not Force Mortals To Worship You. Part Four, Thou Shall Not Force Mortals Not To Worship Other Gods. Part Five, Thou Shall Not Break The Universe."
"Can we agree to these simpler agreements designed to keep everyone alive and not risking a species being driven to the extremity?"
Anath nods. "I haven't had a single prayer about the void, even while the whispering and radiation was at their maximum level. What kind of prayers are you getting that involve the void?"I support having these rules in place, although three and four are quite similar. And I think you should be able to seek the death of your opposite.
Glancing at the other gods, Anath sighs. "Here is my basic desire for what a code of conduct should have. Part One, Thou Shall Not Cause Megadeaths Or Extinction Events. Part Two, Thou Shall Not Seek the Death of Another God. Part Three, Thou Shall Not Force Mortals To Worship You. Part Four, Thou Shall Not Force Mortals Not To Worship Other Gods. Part Five, Thou Shall Not Break The Universe."
"Can we agree to these simpler agreements designed to keep everyone alive and not risking a species being driven to the extremity?"
(Hrm. Maybe it's just my horrible internet and the weather, but that link doesn't work for me.)((It works fine on my tablet...))
((First of all, wow. Holy crap that is awesome!
Second, is that orange stuff desert? Why is there so much desert in the middle of what I assume to be a forest? What about that yellow stuff? A legend for the terrain would be nice.
Thirdly, you got the geography of the human settlements wrong. After the Angel-Emperor revealed himself, he united all other humans and centralised the race's entire population (on Keshan, at least). This allowed for two Attack on Titan style walls to be built around its entire territory. They're basically Great Walls of China except much larger and they're actually supposed to keep enemies out.))
"Calm down Fusil. Cim's followers killing yours out of their own free will does not give you the right to try to kill Cim. You do not see me trying to kill Grauel even though his followers are actively killing and eating mine, and Grauel's actively protecting them! Grauel's crimes are greater than Cim's. You only care so much because of your inane rivalry with him and because they happened to tarnish one of your shrines. You must remember that those men,women, and children who died are human and thus my own children, and yet I am not out to slaughter Cim either. Your mission to kill a god is simply unjust."
(It's more confusing than that, because there's a shade of yellow I assume is desert, and a different one for Mountwyrm territory.)
(No. Look at the bottom left. The orange stuff is a territory. All the colors are territories.)(Actually, no, that's not what I was talking about, and no, not all colours are territories. A1, for example, represents water, not Sorae (whatever the hell they are) and I5 represents forest (I think), not Gruen. Mountwyrm territory (in orange) is in J13. The desert I'm talking about is stuff like what's on O4 or P4.)
"You are a fool for comparing the two, God of Humans. He ORDERED them to. It was not done by their own free will, but by his manipulations. The Gruen kill because they are hungry, without the God's intervention. Cim controlled the minds of these people to kill my innocent followers! The pathetic, useless, disgusting monster doesn't even deny this. No, he proudly states it with his chest puffed out, arrogant as always. If you are going to try to speak to me, at least understand the actual situation!""Really? I only heard him say that he created the Breaker Knights and that he moved a single pebble. I'm guessing that the creation of the Breaker Knights was what he meant by his moving the pebble and we still don't know for sure if that single band of Breaker Knights were acting alone or with the blessing of the rest. We'll find out soon enough once I get a response from them. Just be patient."
(Actually, no, that's not what I was talking about, and no, not all colours are territories. A1, for example, represents water, not Sorae (whatever the hell they are) and I5 represents forest (I think), not Gruen. Mountwyrm territory (in orange) is in J13. The desert I'm talking about is stuff like what's on O4 or P4.)
"Really? I only heard him say that he created the Breaker Knights and that he moved a single pebble. I'm guessing that the creation of the Breaker Knights was what he meant by his moving the pebble and we still don't know for sure if that single band of Breaker Knights were acting alone or with the blessing of the rest. We'll find out soon enough once I get a response from them. Just be patient."
(Really? Never mind then. Also, you spelled colors wrong :P)(NO I DIDN'T IT'S SPELLED 'COLOURS' - NOT 'COLORS'! COLORS IS THE BASTARDISATION OF AN ALREADY THOROUGHLY BASTARDISED LANGUAGE AND THE AMERICAN INSTITUTION OF SPELLING OR WHOEVER'S IN CHARGED SHOULD BE HANGED FOR MAKING A BAD SITUATION ALREADY WORSE! YOU ONLY USE 'COLOR' AS A VERB! THAT IS THE ONLY TIME YOU USE 'COLOR'! YOUR PERVERSION OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS STILL NOT AS BAD AS THE IMPERIAL SYSTEM OF WEIGHTS AND MEASUREMENTS WHICH CAN BE DESCRIBED LESS AS BASTARDISED AND MORE AS THOROUGHLY INBRED! Ahem.)
"Moving a single pebble was ordering them to attack my troops. Him using the butterfly method to do so does not effect its impact. He did not deny my accusations of him ordering them to attack me, simply bragged about having done so. You are blind or foolish to think otherwise.""I am simply being cautious. We will know the true extent of his guilt soon enough."
Anath also glances at the human settlements, wondering just how many of them worship the god of ambition anyway.((That's exactly what I'm wondering! I mean here I am, spending all this time and energy trying to protect their worthless, heretic asses and they don't even appreciate me! What, do I need to make everyone immortal? Jesus Christ.))
(ARTISANII!!!!!)@Artisanii"Hey there Artisanii! I know we don't really talk a lot but I should let you know right now that I appreciate what your servants have done for the culture of my people. I was wondering, perhaps, if your servants can introduce something similar to what hey have done for our eyes, except for our ears? It would be really cool if you did." :)
Oh yeah. My people have been really bummed out over the war and it'll be great for morale. They don't like the war more because they're scared they'll be forced to join the army rather than the reason for the war in the first place, it being that they were being eaten. I just don't understand the logic behind it.(ARTISANII!!!!!)@Artisanii"Hey there Artisanii! I know we don't really talk a lot but I should let you know right now that I appreciate what your servants have done for the culture of my people. I was wondering, perhaps, if your servants can introduce something similar to what hey have done for our eyes, except for our ears? It would be really cool if you did." :)
We have done so, we have been cultivating with other species with these kinds of arts. I could direct some of them over there if needed, however.
We have done so, we have been cultivating with other species with these kinds of arts. I could direct some of them over there if needed, however.Oh yeah. My people have been really bummed out over the war and it'll be great for morale. They don't like the war more because they're scared they'll be forced to join the army rather than the reason for the war in the first place, it being that they were being eaten. I just don't understand the logic behind it.
"I don't want to take sides in this fairly petty war."(Petty? This is a war of survival. Humans are getting eaten. Humans are fighting back. If Grauel were to simply tell the Gruen to stop eating humans then the war would be over.)
(I never said I didn't start it. But it was the Gruen that provoked it. Actually...)
A message is sent directly to the Gruen saying that if they want the war to end all they have to do is not eat any more humans. That is the only demand.
"I wonder how you followers will react, Grauel, now that they know the reason behind the war and how easy it would be for them to get out of it without further death on their side."
The Muses complain that happy, peaceful themes are currently under-represented in mortal works.I could fix this, send some inspiration to the Mortal Artists for peaceful themes. Bless a few to encourage them.
One Muse focused on comedy theater complains about a coastal village of Luminee that has consistently produced horror material for several generations.
A few Muses complain about the recent increase in pantomime as a result of a Muse specialized in performance art.
Some paint-specialized Muses request your permission to assist some mortals in painting a picture of a building with too many angles.
"This is important. Throughout my endeavors with the Mortal Realm, I have found that a certain coastal village of Luminee has been plagued with what seems to be nightmares for a long time. I can only presume the Void is behind this. Thoughts?""It was Varee, actually. To directly quote him:"
Blah the world is geting blan [sic] and boring, I would create some creatures for the world that roams [sic] the world at night and cause nightmare [sic] to it [sic] inhabitants. I think a few thousands of these will be interesting for the development of the mortal [sic]. They all will be in spirit form but exist in the copereal [sic] world and appear to the mortals as they please."His speech patterns make me sic, but I see no mystery here. With some collaboration we could easily get rid of them if we wanted to."
The other issue here is that I ordered the Gruen to eat humans in general because they are plentiful but you took it as a direct attack on you worshipers which is was not intended as. You responded by a direct attack on mine while ordering me on how to conduct my affairs which I find unacceptable. Furthermore even your later attempts at "peace" were stained by obvious contempt and mocking comments such as "I know you don't want to have this was because my guys will mop the floor with yours". After all that, I see no reason to seek peace between us until you learn at least a modicum of respect for other gods and realize that you do not have sole propriety over something you did not actually create, regardless of whether or not the creation in question is linked to your sphere."I admit that I have been disrespectful in my earlier mannerisms and I apologise for them. I'm not sure how else I can convey respect in my young age so I guess I will have to leave it at an apology, unless you have any ideas. As for my "sole propriet" which you claim I do not have, I agree. But only in the same way that a mother or father does not have propriety over their child, or more accurately, how a man does not have propriety over his right hand because it is not his property, rather it is him. Humans are not merely linked to my sphere, they are my sphere and more than that, I am a literal manifestation of their existence, their godly self. As such, I care for all humans regardless of who they worship, save for those who harm other humans.
"And I do not wish to destroy you, Grauel. Deicide is a major crime that I doubt any one of us would sink to. We are of course so few in number and our deaths would surely wreak havoc on the world, as demonstrated by the upsurge in treachery since Valkiss' death.
I do not plan on destroying you like the God of War wishes to destroy Cim and neither do I plan to wipe our your followers or the humans completely. I personally feel that the destruction of a few followers is not reason enough to annihilate another god, especially when you consider they all get reincarnated anyway and will probably go on to live further satisfying and happy lives. That said, I do plan on providing a very harsh lesson on what I am capable of doing when insulted by a new god who seems to arrogantly think he can easily swipe me aside while simultaneously insulting me and directly intervening to harm my creations.
Kifo has challenged Azem to join a friendly game of Clue with Yaos, Joha, Fusil, and Grauel.((Who the hell is Kifo?))
Finally, they have issued an ultimatum to the effect that the Breaker Knights send their leaders to human authorities or be declared a terrorist group. Given their ability to disintegrate weapons, it seems unlikely that they will respond favorably, but it is more likely that they will lay low lest they be arrested and Questioned.((That's not at all what I wanted. I only wanted the Breaker Knights responsible for lighting a town on fire and killing 100 civilians to be brought to justice. If one or all of the leaders were involved in the attack then sure I would want them brought in but ONLY if they were there doing the fire-ing and the killing.))
Yaos: You take the form of a human and wander in a human town, paying attention to what they want or need. They seem to want:Hmm, land is easy enough to get, but how do I get food, water, entertainment? Entertainment should be easy with my powers but doing the most obvious thing would probably be breaking the game's PG13+ rating. What else can my human powers be used to create entertainment...... Acrobats? Humanos Grande rides? Sports? This is hard. Maybe Artisanii can help.
- Food and water, because many of them live in rocky wastes
- Entertainment on non-Mystic Snow days. The demand for entertainment seems to be increasing steadily with the number of Festivals.
- Land, because having multiple heirs is becoming more common
((Who the hell is Kifo?))That would be my angel.
Oppose 12.00.In all technicality, you could get around that by, rather than forcing them to not worship them, you strongly suggest for them to not do so.
"I really like proposal 12.01 but I have to OPPOSE it because of rule Number 4. My job is to protect humans and give them the best life possible but I can't do that if a God of Suicide shows up and starts telling people to kill themselves, or something like that. Change or get rid of Number 4 and I'll support the proposal."
"Would I be considered to be a bad influence on your people young god? Ess. I am merely curious."((What does 'Ess' mean?))
(That was Azem adjusting to Yaos changing genders again.)(Ess? What kind of response is that? I have literally no idea what that means.)
"I don't know, sir. On one side, you want to escape dying. On the other, you want to help stop the dying of the people in the war. And then you also want to stay here. You look kind of confused over all of this. Maybe you should think about what you really want to do?"?
Kli secretly tries to use a small amount of his power to increase the human's wisdom and understanding, so the human may find Balance within himself and make a decision.
"I wonder what Yaos has to say about the Mystic Snow.""I actually help Varee to make the Mystic Snow!" :D "Do you guys like it or do you want it to stop?"
"Thank Yaos I got to eat a jelly roll instead of more roast rat today!"
"I gave a beggar a coin today. Yaos will be so happy!"
"I wonder if Yaos will find out that I was at The Light's temple instead last week."
"By Yaos! Rarr! Rarr! Nooo! I'm dead! I get to be the dragon next time!"
The Light tells the Luminee to promote their horror plays in the human cities and meditate to ponder about essence and the fabric of the entirety."Actually, could they not? My people are already supes depressed by the war already and I don't want them to be any sadder." :'(
"I don't know, sir. On one side, you want to escape dying. On the other, you want to help stop the dying of the people in the war. And then you also want to stay here. You look kind of confused over all of this. Maybe you should think about what you really want to do?"(Kli: -0E)
Kli secretly tries to use a small amount of his power to increase the human's wisdom and understanding, so the human may find Balance within himself and make a decision.
Light human: "Sure, but I think I'd rather loop over right away, if what they say about death is true.""Hmm? What do they say about death?"
"If you die, you reappear in a distant land with different sights."Light human: "Sure, but I think I'd rather loop over right away, if what they say about death is true.""Hmm? What do they say about death?"
"Ah yeah that's technically true, BUT, what they don't say is how your new life might actually be a bad one, and you never remember your old life so you won't even care that you are reincarnated. Just think of yourself. You must have had a past life. Do you remember it? Do you care about your past life that for all you know of might as well not have even existed? Going to the Human Plane means remembering your old life and being happy forever." :)"If you die, you reappear in a distant land with different sights."Light human: "Sure, but I think I'd rather loop over right away, if what they say about death is true.""Hmm? What do they say about death?"
Azem listens to the prayers of the Mountwyrms, specifically, the ones on the frontier.
Yaos: Dissatisfied human: "I still want to reappear instead. Who wants to live forever?""Oh man you have no idea. Let's see...there's the gods, the angels, the elves, everyone in the Human Plane (they love their immortality), a whole bunch of mortals...it's really quite a lot. But yeah, if you still want to reincarnate, just worship another god more than me. Worshipping me still gets you some pretty sweet perks like taking longer to get old and not feeling as bad when you do get old and just generally having a better life. If you ever change your mind, all you have to do is put me before the other gods. It's completely up to you, though."
"Yeah, I think I'll stick to Graanglipechozhrih."Yaos: Dissatisfied human: "I still want to reappear instead. Who wants to live forever?""Oh man you have no idea. Let's see...there's the gods, the angels, the elves, everyone in the Human Plane (they love their immortality), a whole bunch of mortals...it's really quite a lot. But yeah, if you still want to reincarnate, just worship another god more than me. Worshipping me still gets you some pretty sweet perks like taking longer to get old and not feeling as bad when you do get old and just generally having a better life. If you ever change your mind, all you have to do is put me before the other gods. It's completely up to you, though."
"............Who the actual Void is that? I've never heard of a god or angel or...really ANYTHING with that kind of name.""Yeah, I think I'll stick to Graanglipechozhrih."Yaos: Dissatisfied human: "I still want to reappear instead. Who wants to live forever?""Oh man you have no idea. Let's see...there's the gods, the angels, the elves, everyone in the Human Plane (they love their immortality), a whole bunch of mortals...it's really quite a lot. But yeah, if you still want to reincarnate, just worship another god more than me. Worshipping me still gets you some pretty sweet perks like taking longer to get old and not feeling as bad when you do get old and just generally having a better life. If you ever change your mind, all you have to do is put me before the other gods. It's completely up to you, though."
"............Who the actual Void is that? I've never heard of a god or angel or...really ANYTHING with that kind of name."
((WaitwaitwaitwaitWAIT...Can gods passively hear the prayers meant for other gods? Or is Fusil eavesdropping? Is eavesdropping on prayer possible? "By Fusil".....wow that's egotistical ;D))Quote"............Who the actual Void is that? I've never heard of a god or angel or...really ANYTHING with that kind of name."
"By Fusil. That is a Null. A Void Voice. It is a good thing you came across this."
((WaitwaitwaitwaitWAIT...Can gods passively hear the prayers meant for other gods? Or is Fusil eavesdropping? Is eavesdropping on prayer possible? "By Fusil".....wow that's egotistical ;D))
(I knew about the drug snow because it was literally snowing drugs. I don't need telepathy to look out the proverbial window. But yeah no on the whole public thing. Prayers and stuff are private but go on here because otherwise the GM has to go through a shit ton of PMs to get through everything.)Quote((WaitwaitwaitwaitWAIT...Can gods passively hear the prayers meant for other gods? Or is Fusil eavesdropping? Is eavesdropping on prayer possible? "By Fusil".....wow that's egotistical ;D))
(I always thought pretty much everything we posted here was public. Also, I am eavesdropping. You did drop keywords, and where not exactly using a secure connection. Am I wrong? I mean, you did know about the drug snow...)
(I knew about the drug snow because it was literally snowing drugs. I don't need telepathy to look out the proverbial window. But yeah no on the whole public thing. Prayers and stuff are private but go on here because otherwise the GM has to go through a shit ton of PMs to get through everything.)
(...I'm confused.)
(Yes no yes no, the other gods cannot can cannot can hear prayers to you if you post here. :P)(Damn it. WHY did I have to read the transparent text!? WHY!? Still, you can expect the players to self-enforce the rules. Unless you want to sort out all the prayers and stuff via PM, which I'm sure you don't want to do.)
Yes, they can hear you. I can't really enforce no-metagaming if you broadcast your stuff.
(How did you even know about the transparent text trick?)(It was there while I was writing a post in the quote. I only found out about Jelly Roll Guy's heresy by looking at the text in the quote. I myself use the transparent text trick as well, and have used it on this very thread already.)
"What the Void, Fusil! Were you eavesdropping!? On a private prayer!? How DARE you!" >:(
"You where broadcasting the name of Demons out loud. Of course I listened! Please detain him immediately. He is part of a cult that I previously was unaware of. If necessary, we can make this a joint operation. This is a danger to all of us.""I was broadcasting nothing! You are a liar and a scoundrel to listen to the private prayers of others! Also, I will NOT detain him! I might have if proposal 12.01 hadn't been passed but it was so I can't. It was even the rule I objected against that's preventing me from doing as you request right now."
"I was broadcasting nothing! You are a liar and a scoundrel to listen to the private prayers of others! Also, I will NOT detain him! I might have if proposal 12.01 hadn't been passed but it was so I can't. It was even the rule I objected against that's preventing me from doing as you request right now."
"If I arrest him that would be providing disincentive to not worship a god of his desire and I don't know if the Void Voices count as gods or not. If the rest of the council agrees that I can arrest him I will but until then I won't.....and don't expect any favours from me Fusil."
"I would like to propose that any god found to be eavesdropping on the private prayers directed to another god should give that god 1 Essence as punishment.
"My hands are tied, Fusil. I will not go against the council. On that note, I say that anyone who breaks a council rule will be stripped down to 1 Essence with the rest of the Essence being given to the rest of the gods.""If I arrest him that would be providing disincentive to not worship a god of his desire and I don't know if the Void Voices count as gods or not. If the rest of the council agrees that I can arrest him I will but until then I won't.....and don't expect any favours from me Fusil."
"I would like to propose that any god found to be eavesdropping on the private prayers directed to another god should give that god 1 Essence as punishment.
"This is in your interest, too! I have seen how you reacted when one of your followers simply gets eaten, to be reincarnated in another world. This Null will eat his very soul. You need not bother having this discussion with him if he keeps walking down the Easy Path, he will simply be devoured by the voices. If you will not act, I will have to do so myself."
"Yaos, we most likely don't want any external entities to eat our followers' souls. Let me inspire you some. Heresy.""It's not that I want to allow him to worship them - it's that I have to. As soon as I get council permission I'll make sure he stop worshipping the Void Voices. As for your question on private prayers, it's the second one. The one that you support. Public prayers or prayers directed at the council can obviously be heard by all the gods."
"As for eavesdropping, I oppose the proposal, unless it truly specifies private prayers, in which case I support it. Ones spoken aloud to the Council are not private."
"My hands are tied, Fusil. I will not go against the council. On that note, I say that anyone who breaks a council rule will be stripped down to 1 Essence with the rest of the Essence being given to the rest of the gods."
"Do the mortals even recognize us a collective?""Probably not." :P
"I disagree with that, murdering someone for breaking a rule is just foolish. You misunderstand me. I want him captured so we can interrogate him, and destroy whatever caused the cult to form. I do not care about changing the allegiance of the fool. We must disband the cult before it spreads, investigating him is currently the only way to do it.""Taking all but 1 Essence away from a god does NOT kill the god. I would know. I survived for a very long time on 1 Essence. Besides, killing gods is also against 12.01. I also can't simply imprison and interrogate him because that would still provide disincentive for worshipping the Void Voices. I cannot do anything except to him to dissuade him except for provide an honest and neutral explanation of what will happen if he continues worshipping the Void. I would also like to mention that he thought he also heavily worships The Light so I'm guessing he has something to do with it."
"Taking all but 1 Essence away from a god does NOT kill the god. I would know. I survived for a very long time on 1 Essence. Besides, killing gods is also against 12.01. I also can't simply imprison and interrogate him because that would still provide disincentive for worshipping the Void Voices. I cannot do anything except to him to dissuade him except for provide an honest and neutral explanation of what will happen if he continues worshipping the Void. I would also like to mention that he thought he also heavily worships The Light so I'm guessing he has something to do with it."
"Be careful weapon god. Lest you tread the path of Cim."
"The law does not state you cannot provide disincentives. As such, you can provide all the disincentives you want, or this law would strangle our motions to a halt. The laws are just vague enough to be unenforceable, the use of technicalities makes them easy to get around. Under your own definition of the laws, that would also be dissuading them. So would the war you wish to enter. Besides that, who would decide what the laws mean? As I stated before, they are vague enough to be useless.""Providing disincentives is the equivalent of forcing a mortal to not worship another god. Also, simply explaining the current, non-manufactured disincentives does not itself count as a disincentive because I am merely revealing the existence of current ones rather than creating ones myself. Also, despite my disagreement with the law I still choose to abide by what it meant and my pride won't allow myself to simply skirt around it because of its vagueness. That would be dishonest." She glances at Cim when she says this.
So would the war you wish to enter."That does not count. That war is to stop the eating of humans and the worship of Gruen who are mortals - NOT gods. My motives are pure on both counts. The only reason I have not forced the subject human to abandon worship of the Void Voices is because I do not know if they count as gods or not and I am waiting for the council's approval."
"I am merely suggesting that you not do anything rash."
"Providing disincentives is the equivalent of forcing a mortal to not worship another god. Also, simply explaining the current, non-manufactured disincentives does not itself count as a disincentive because I am merely revealing the existence of current ones rather than creating ones myself. Also, despite my disagreement with the law I still choose to abide by what it meant and my pride won't allow myself to simply skirt around it because of its vagueness. That would be dishonest."
"That does not count. That war is to stop the eating of humans and the worship of Gruen which are mortals - NOT gods. My motives are pure on both counts. The only reason I have not forced the subject human to abandon worship of the Void Voices is because I do not know if they count as gods or not and I am waiting for the council's approval."
Azem chuckles at Yaos."Yes, I agree." she turns to look at Cim, then looks back. "But that doesn't mean we should be completely dishonest with each other either.
"I would bet many shinies that there is not one of here who is fully honest."
(Not even the GodMaster is fully honest? :o)
I have obtained a book from a void worshiper. It is written in another language, one that can even make a god nauseous.
I have obtained a book from a void worshiper. It is written in another language, one that can even make a god nauseous."Oh? And what Null do they worship? I hope we have the tools necessary to translate it in the Divine Library...."
"Theeese boooks aaare aaabooout theee frieeendlyyy creeeatuuures iiin theee Voooiiid. Theeey giiive uuus priiizes fooor ooour aaachieeevemeeents."
Anath looks up from where he is preparing to create his next creation. "The Code of Conduct I suggested was for interactions between us, who exist on this plane and have made this world. If the Void Ones wish to be part of it, and protected by it, then they should openly show themselves to us and agree to being a member of this council like we are.""I will send the Inquisitors."
"I will send the Inquisitors."
((Wait so did you PM the GM or something and he gave you a response that said your guys captured him or did you just send guys to capture him and they're still on the way? How would you even know where he is? Surely the power to eavesdrop wouldn't be so total as to provide accurate information on who and where the prayer is like being the one who's being prayed to would have.))Quote"I will send the Inquisitors."
"You are far to late. If you listened to my response, you would know I have already captured him myself"
Anath also isn't convinced at all the Inquisitors are nice friendly people...((That was OOC information. It wasn't Yaos trying to convince people they're nice. Their (relative) niceness is canon.))
((Wait so did you PM the GM or something and he gave you a response or did you just send guys to capture him? How would you even know where he is? Surely the power to eavesdrop wouldn't be so total as to provide accurate information on who and where the prayer is like being the one who's being prayed to would have.))
((Ok, here's my OOC response. I am not convinced the Inquisitors are nice friendly people /at all/.))Anath also isn't convinced at all the Inquisitors are nice friendly people...((That was OOC information. It wasn't Yaos trying to convince people they're nice. Their (relative) niceness is canon.))
"I admit that I have been disrespectful in my earlier mannerisms and I apologise for them. I'm not sure how else I can convey respect in my young age so I guess I will have to leave it at an apology, unless you have any ideas. As for my "sole propriet" which you claim I do not have, I agree. But only in the same way that a mother or father does not have propriety over their child, or more accurately, how a man does not have propriety over his right hand because it is not his property, rather it is him. Humans are not merely linked to my sphere, they are my sphere and more than that, I am a literal manifestation of their existence, their godly self. As such, I care for all humans regardless of who they worship, save for those who harm other humans.
I wouldn't mind so much that they worship Gruen even except that they allow themselves to be eaten. Even THAT I would merely disapprove of but still allow, but then they convert other humans - including their own family mind you - and as such more humans simply allow themselves to be eaten. That is why I go after Heretics.
Oh and I did actually make my own humans using the Essence from 3.00 - after donating of course - so some might say that I do in fact have propriety. I am not one of those people who think I should claim propriety over them because, as I have explained, I basically AM all humans, but still.
"And I do not wish to destroy you, Grauel. Deicide is a major crime that I doubt any one of us would sink to. We are of course so few in number and our deaths would surely wreak havoc on the world, as demonstrated by the upsurge in treachery since Valkiss' death.
I also do not wish to wipe out your followers completely, I am simply taking your advice on how to make humans impractical meals to eat. I took that advice literally seeing as how I have failed to come up with any other option to settle this that DOESN'T result in more humans getting devoured. Again, I do apologise for my earlier rudeness and I hope we can put that behind us. I will not, however, end my war on the Gruen until they agree to cease the devouring of humans. On that point I will not concede.
I respect and understand that but I hope you can likewise understand why I as the God of Hunger would similarly be committed to allowing my followers to enact my sphere. Not doing so would be a bit too much against my nature. Let's not consider it a personal war then. It's simply a matter of our followers clashing, mine for the right to eat what they want and yours to show my followers that they aren't worth eating. Regardless of the outcome, I'll consider us on friendly terms from here on out."We don't need to create a new world. We can use Slytha." :) "The war is only active on Keshan. I've just been letting the humans on Slytha do whatever they want." :P "Really, the only thing I did on that planet was make born a single prophet whose only job was to spread the word of Me." ;) "No anti-Gruen activity on that planet is a result of anything I did. We can try to make this peaceful little community of yours on that planet." :)
Perhaps as a sign of my goodwill, despite the conflict, we can both invest essence together to create a new community on one of the worlds removed from the main conflict where a population of Gruen and Humans can live together more harmoniously as some of the Gruen and Mountwyrms do. I won't force that on all my followers but I'm perfectly willing to take the ones who don't want to eat humans and place them in a secluded community with some humans where they can live peacefully.
"Didn't you give her the ability to teleport from place to place accurately and instantly? Why doesn't she do that?
"Or you could let my Inquisitors do the job they were trained to do." :P "Heck, I could probably help since I'm the God of Humans, the Inquisitors are humans, and the suspect is human. They'd probably do a LOT better job than an Angel of Arms who knows best about weapons and how to kill things." :)
"I am the God of Humans, Fusil. I would know if that cultist was human or not (and he was). I also want one of my own angels to be present for the interrogation because I don't trust you and for all I know and can be proven you could be working for the Void and you just want your angel to silence him. Actually, I don't even know if the suspect is still alive. But anyway, I also want my angel to make sure he isn't harmed because he himself probably doesn't even know he's committing heresy. He's a human and I am the God of Humans so I'm going to make sure he gets a fair interrogation. Now tell us where he is.""Or you could let my Inquisitors do the job they were trained to do." :P "Heck, I could probably help since I'm the God of Humans, the Inquisitors are humans, and the suspect is human. They'd probably do a LOT better job than an Angel of Arms who knows best about weapons and how to kill things." :)
"I have recently upgraded her with the ability to read mortal minds specifically for missions like this. Certainly you can see where her many abilities will come in handy, and we do not know if all the cultists even are human. As I know more about the Null than you, I would be the best choice for this mission. As I said, I am still willing for us to work together on this."
"I am the God of Humans, Fusil. I would know if that cultist was human or not (and he was). I also want one of my own angels to be present for the interrogation because I don't trust you and for all I know and can be proven you could be working for the Void and you just want your angel to silence him. Actually, I don't even know if the suspect is still alive. But anyway, I also want my angel to make sure he isn't harmed because he himself probably doesn't even know he's committing heresy. He's a human and I am the God of Humans so I'm going to make sure he gets a fair interrogation. Now tell us where he is."
"I don't trust either of you. Just thought you might want to know that."
"I don't even know where your angel is, Fusil. You guys can also trust me. I have not done anything since being awakened that could even be interpreted as mistrustful. At least I think so."Quote"I don't trust either of you. Just thought you might want to know that."
"Nobody can trust anyone here. Isn't that a sad fact? This council has done more to tear us apart than to keep us together. Speaking of which, can anyone else assist with Tykki's rescue? The more there is, the easier it is. Right now it is just me and the Greed God..."
"Tykki is safe. Consider this a disarm rather than an offensive attack. Considering what you're doing behind the scenes, you are not much to call me out on a defensive, nonviolent capture.""What behind the scenes thing is he doing? It had better be a good answer because kidnapping an angel is a very serious crime, Cim the Lawgiver, also known as the One who is Righteous and Lawful and not Subterfugeous."
"What behind the scenes thing is he doing? It had better be a good answer because kidnapping an angel is a very serious crime, Cim the Lawgiver, also known as the One who is Righteous and Lawful and not Subterfugeous.""He sent his other Angels to kill my innocents. I disarmed his primary weapon to prevent him from doing any worse things. I'll give her back as soon as the conflict ends. Which might not be any time soon as he kidnapped one of my prophets in response and tried to uncreate him. Additionally, you call this a serious crime even though we don't have any code of conduct yet; this wouldn't even be against the one proposed by Anath."
"Gosh darn it the both of you! You're acting like children, not gods!" >:( "I want to make a new proposal. Gods who orchestrate or conduct secret operations against another god must pay a random god 1 Essence. Varee does not get to be eligible because he is the god of randomness and he'll probably cheat." ;) "To clarify: OPEN actions against another god are allowed without punishment. To add a little collo-cororrolo- umm.......COROLLARY phew! to the law, secret actions against gods of opposing spheres is allowed, and secret actions against gods that are OPENLY at WAR is also allowed."This I support, though it is yet to be decided whether or not I and Fusil are at war."
"I can acquiesce to that.""Is that another word for abstain?" ???
Azem obtains a copy by posing as a human.(You are a god. You could've just magicked yourself up a book at no Essence cost. Or just asked someone for one because, again, you are a god. Besides it's not like it's banned to non-humans or anything, it's just that the Emperor is focused on distributing books to human settlements rather than non-human settlements. He might charge money to non-humans because they might as well be fiction novels to them but again, YOU ARE A GOD, and more than that, you are a god of MONEY. You could have just magicked yourself some money at NO Essence cost, like you always do.)
Anath looks up from where he is preparing to create his next creation. "The Code of Conduct I suggested was for interactions between us, who exist on this plane and have made this world. If the Void Ones wish to be part of it, and protected by it, then they should openly show themselves to us and agree to being a member of this council like we are."
Anath also checks his creations, the Star Elves, Termitia, and Star Dragons for Void Cults.
Anath will oppose 14.02 because he holds the right to interact with his own creations privately, which this seems to forbid. And he'll oppose 14.01 as well because that seems exceedingly overkill.Agreed on all accounts
Anath will oppose 14.02 because he holds the right to interact with his own creations privately((It's not mentioned in the tick description but that law is meant to punish secret actions against other gods unless those gods are of opposing spheres or are openly at war. It is not a ban on secret actions in general. If you want to interact with your creations privately you may want to consider supporting 14.00.))
"I wish for the forest to have more types of trees. Is that possible?"I can certainly help you with that.
"My daughter is sick and dying. Will you help her recover?"Hmm, yeah. Your daughter will recover.
"Is there a way to make myself return after death?"Seeing as there is a cycle of reincarnation between this world and another, you would return anyways, but I can arrange for you to return immediately to this world upon your death.
The cultist has arrived at the human Capitol's dungeon. Who is present for the interrogation?Yaos' third angel is present, as is the Inquisition.
"Please forgive me relative ignorance for I am a young god, but is there any way to speak to followers or to receive and respond to prayers secretly? I want private conversations between myself and my followers to remain private but since proposal 14.00 seems about to fail I suspect that there currently exist alternative arrangements to make the proposal obsolete for other gods and I would be grateful if another god were to inform me of them if they exist."
"Thank you Fusil."Quote"Please forgive me relative ignorance for I am a young god, but is there any way to speak to followers or to receive and respond to prayers secretly? I want private conversations between myself and my followers to remain private but since proposal 14.00 seems about to fail I suspect that there currently exist alternative arrangements to make the proposal obsolete for other gods and I would be grateful if another god were to inform me of them if they exist."
"Yes, I will teach you the secrets of secret communications. It is the difference between a military radio and a civilian station"
(Hint: PM the DM)
Varee then merge each coin with a piece of eight so there still have eight pieces in total then hid them in random caves .....If you mean you're merging my coins with his coins, Anath will prevent that.
Tentacles? Is this some kind of void trick?
No, I just mean that prolonged exposer to the void causes rapid mutations, usually creating tentacles.QuoteTentacles? Is this some kind of void trick?"What is wrong with tentacles? They are designed for weapons in a way hands simply cannot be. Would you prefer I made a withering mass of severed arms?"
No, I just mean that prolonged exposer to the void causes rapid mutations, usually creating tentacles.
It is not so easy to find the more common, normal-looking Void worshippers when they worship things named after a word for nothingness. You detain some suspiciously tentacled Ritan, but none of the Ritan admit to Void worship. The following Ritan have been detained:
A male Ritan with a tentacle beard and a suspicious tome.
A young female Ritan with tentacle fingers and a concerning volume.
An elderly male Ritan with a tentacled mouth and a menacing book.
It is easy enough to enchant things to protect from the void. I have since protected all of my followers from its influence...
"I've yet to see any actual evidence he's working with them instead of having his children picked on because they're far away from any other race's help." Anath responds the accusation of the ocean god working with the void spirits.
A temple, underwater, with my name? I have had no contact with the void beings, I don't know how a temple means I am working with them..."I've yet to see any actual evidence he's working with them instead of having his children picked on because they're far away from any other race's help." Anath responds the accusation of the ocean god working with the void spirits."What if I told you I found a void temple underwater, and it has Serac's name in their tongue engraved on it?"
I believe that no god here are stupid enough to put their name on a void thing seeing the amount of hatred for the void everyone is showing."I'm not certain if I should be amused or worried."
Now varee introduce mystic snow to the mountwrym trader, it sound like a good commodity.
How did you start finding out their names and other information about them? I'm genuinely curious. I never really put any thought into how someone might start investigating the void beings.
Huh. Reading about them at the library. Smart but somehow less spectacular than what I imagined.
"Be careful when visiting the Library, Mortals have a Knack for sneaking there and reading. Luckily, I banned all books about, say, Celestial or Eldritch Magic.""What about Cosmic magic? God powers seem a lot more important than silly star powers...no offence, Anath." ;)
Create a trumpet of light. Play the trumpet to be heard in every Light follower's heart.(The Light: -1E)
"Be careful when visiting the Library, Mortals have a Knack for sneaking there and reading. Luckily, I banned all books about, say, Celestial or Eldritch Magic."Why can't I access the library's books about the void? Fusil talked about a book detailing the void beings, but I was denied access to it...
I also do a little INCEPTION on a Dwarven King to dig deeper. That idea will not naturally be removed.
"Be careful when visiting the Library, Mortals have a Knack for sneaking there and reading. Luckily, I banned all books about, say, Celestial or Eldritch Magic."Why can't I access the library's books about the void? Fusil talked about a book detailing the void beings, but I was denied access to it...
An Artisanii has teleported you into the forbidden books area. Fusil and a few humans have just stepped out of a metal door split down the middle leading into a small room. There are a few dozen randomly placed shelves in this room.
Fusil, I think you are working with the void creatures. Why else would you know so much, and be bringing humans into the forbidden sections of the library?
I came to the library to see if I could find a void/god dictionary, so I could read that book I got from the void worshipers. And who should I run into but you, leaving a room that locked itself after you left.
"Heya Fusil!" :D "I was wondering if you wanted to do a kind of joint project with me? I want you to make two ultra-special swords, and I'll help!" :) "I'm gonna give them to some archangels later on for them to use, when I have enough Essence to make them. Think you can help? They can be whatever size, shape, or design you want, so long as they're swords, not winky pinkle little daggers." ;)
"I am sorry, but that will have to wait for now. I had just created a powerful race, and need rest before I may do anything more. I would like to spend more of my points on empowering them, as well. We will have to wait for a better time, unless you are willing to pay for the entirety.""Oh. Ok."
"Can't we just, like, you know, maybe lock away the Void books in some part of the library so no one can read them? The only thing that's happened by letting people read them is making us gods angry at each other. What will happen if the Void invades us or something? We need to stand together against them but we can't if we're at each other's throats!"
I haven't been to the library myself and I don't really feel like dropping by. Either one of you care to tell us whether your studies have uncovered what the objectives of the void beings are? I would say that's quite important information.
((You do realize I'm not working with them, right?))
"You can see all of the other Angel's diarys too, from the Emperor of Man to the Angel of Death to the Angel of Hunger.""HE HAS A WHAT!?!!!?"
"I just simply took the literature and knowledge of other God's and put it into the Divine Libray, along with forbidding it. That includes Diaries. Mortals do NOT need to know how Fusil was born, or what the Angel of Famine is thinking right now.""NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!! That is WAY worse than what even Fusil did! I propose that any of that kind of information on gods and their angels and whatever else is being copied without our consent be BANNED from being copied into the library! And also that any of that information that exists in the library be returned to their rightful owners! This is entirely unacceptable! Even if it's forbidden it should not exist in the first place!" D:<
I will oppose that. If it wasn't to go in the library, don't write it down. How can we have a library of all knowledge if we take things out?"Part of the problem is that it's NOT just things that are written down! No one ever wrote how Fusil was made but that's apparently in the library! It has the thoughts of all us gods and angels whether they were written down or not and that is just despicable!"
"I summoned a manifestation of Shturrthafusnghepiisnsitlygh today. I thank Yaos for blessing me in this venture."
"I want to become the king of a human kingdom. Yaos of Ambition will surely bless this."- If he's on Slytha, BLESSED. If he's on Keshan, bless him to become the head of a city. "You still have to actually try though. Ambition is useless without proper action." Of course, all these options apply ONLY if the one who's praying is human.
"By Yaos, what a magnificent Piece!"
"I summoned a manifestation of Shturrthafusnghepiisnsitlygh today. I thank Yaos for blessing me in this venture."
"I want to become the king of a human kingdom. Yaos of Ambition will surely bless this."- If he's on Slytha, BLESSED. If he's on Keshan, bless him to become the head of a city. "You still have to actually try though. Ambition is useless without proper action." Of course, all these options apply ONLY if the one who's praying is human.
"By Yaos, what a magnificent Piece!"
"I summoned a manifestation of Shturrthafusnghepiisnsitlygh today. I thank Yaos for blessing me in this venture."
- SEND THE INQUISITORS
- *PURGING INTENSIFIES*
"Oh come on! It can't be that powerful can it? ::) It was only recently created by some amateur. How strong could it be? Besides, I'm not sending the Inquisitors. They just have swords and stuff because they're meant to handle humans. I'm sending in the Paladins - immortal, combat enhanced holy warriors given weapons made by the Angels of Weapons themselves. And stop referring to yourself in the third person, Fusil. It makes you sound silly. ::)""I want to become the king of a human kingdom. Yaos of Ambition will surely bless this."- If he's on Slytha, BLESSED. If he's on Keshan, bless him to become the head of a city. "You still have to actually try though. Ambition is useless without proper action." Of course, all these options apply ONLY if the one who's praying is human.
"By Yaos, what a magnificent Piece!"
"I summoned a manifestation of Shturrthafusnghepiisnsitlygh today. I thank Yaos for blessing me in this venture."
- SEND THE INQUISITORS
- *PURGING INTENSIFIES*
"Your inquisitors?! We have no clue what an honest-to-Fusil manifestation of the Null is capable of. Why don't you get that Emperor off his throne and into the fray? I will be sending my Angels shortly, no doubt more capable of handling the situation than mortal humans with flamethrowers."
(...Did the god of Greed just write a self-help book?)
Azem writes a short book about himself, simply titled, 'The Goldfather' and has Alprozem and the Gem Council produce and distribute it. Aside from heaping praise on him, It describes the role of Azem as not just bringing prosperity, but helping people bring prosperity to themselves. Copies of the book are to be sent with all future trade caravans.(That sounds more like a book on charity than a book on greed. If you want to make yourself weaker so badly you could just give me Essence. :P)
"He's that bad is he? Well see how he likes THE ENTIRE ARMY OF THE EMPIRE OF MAN! Led by the Angel-Emperor of Mankind with the Imperial Fire Sword, commanding 2 generic angels, 1,000 Humanos Grande with 10 Controller Angels, 10 Humanos Controlados, and an indeterminate but very large amount of trained, armed, and armoured humans!
Fusil, I expect all your angels to join the fight. I expect ALL angels of ALL gods to join the fight to defeat this manifestation of the most powerful Ungod we must face! If all gods agree to help with their creation, I will make two indomitable champions of humanity armed with the two most powerful weapons created by the god of weapons! (Disregarding his angels, of course.)"
But, isn't a manifestation not corporal?"That's irrelevant! I myself am a manifestation of humanity's existence and, not to toot my own horn or anything, but I am pre-tty powerful." ;D
"Wah? Mortal? No no no no no. Silly Fusil! I said 'indomitable' not 'mortal'. The two champions I'm thinking of ARE archangels! Each of them more powerful than the Angel-Emperor, actually, if I create them specifically to combat this manifestation, which is the plan. Also, I am calling a temporary truce until this Void being is killed.""He's that bad is he? Well see how he likes THE ENTIRE ARMY OF THE EMPIRE OF MAN! Led by the Angel-Emperor of Mankind with the Imperial Fire Sword, commanding 2 generic angels, 1,000 Humanos Grande with 10 Controller Angels, 10 Humanos Controlados, and an indeterminate but very large amount of trained, armed, and armoured humans!
Fusil, I expect all your angels to join the fight. I expect ALL angels of ALL gods to join the fight to defeat this manifestation of the most powerful Ungod we must face! If all gods agree to help with their creation, I will make two indomitable champions of humanity armed with the two most powerful weapons created by the god of weapons! (Disregarding his angels, of course.)"
"You want to make mortal champions to fight immortal beings? Just send your Archangel, he doesn't seem to be doing anything too important. Besides, you are about to get in a war. With our combined power, we should be able to stomp him down before it gets that far."
"How on the Keshan and Slytha do you expect my angels to be useful to you in this endeavor?""Angels are always better at fighting than mortals, even if you didn't make them specifically to be warriors."
I only have one angel... One very expensive angel... who to my knowledge has had more essence sunk into it publicly than any other angel. I literally can only risk sacrificing 100%. *Sigh* If my only angel dies, I will seriously be angry. I want at least part of the cost repaid to me by the council to bring my angel back if it dies."Well you could send some Gruen soldiers to help him, then you WON'T be spending 100%!" :D "I think..." :-\
Send the Devourer to help.
The Devourer appears near the house of a human administrator. The door has been kicked down, and Fusil and a group of beings likely to be his angels are inside.(Where's my Paladins/Army of Man in all of this?)
It has never spoken directly, but Its servants and manifestations are capable of making lesser deals with not only Bubble-dwellers but also other Nulls. Most believe that Its intentions are malevolent on account of it being the champion of the Umbral faction, but most have contact primarily if not exclusively with Luminants and Liminals, so this may be biased.
Shturrthafusnghepiisnsitlygh is bad news guys. Avoid his cultists!
I only have one angel... One very expensive angel... who to my knowledge has had more essence sunk into it publicly than any other angel. I literally can only risk sacrificing 100%. *Sigh* If my only angel dies, I will seriously be angry. I want at least part of the cost repaid to me by the council to bring my angel back if it dies."Well you could send some Gruen soldiers to help him, then you WON'T be spending 100%!" :D "I think..." :-\
Send the Devourer to help.The Devourer appears near the house of a human administrator. The door has been kicked down, and Fusil and a group of beings likely to be his angels are inside.(Where's my Paladins/Army of Man in all of this?)
Seriously, how did you all find out so much?!? All from the book? I'm really starting to regret not going to the library.
"Anath, Azem, kindly remove your coins my cities, please." She says this with a stepford smile.Anath shrugs. "I merely scattered them into the wilderness. Wherever they are now, the mortals have brought them there themselves."
"Fusil! Use your powers of weapons to dull the thing's sword arms! I'll use my human powers to find the cultist. Maybe we can get something out of him?"
The Army of Man advances on the Void thing. The Paladins are there too, of course.
(Just rub some rain clouds together and make some lightning. That's how physics works, right? Bah, who cares how physics works! We're gods! We can do whatever we want!)
(Where's my army? I they simply on the way?)
(Yaos: Your army is, in any case, unable to fit even in the administrator's lavish house)(How big is this guy's house to hold 6 angels, 2 gods, and a ten-armed Eldritch abomination in the first place?)
(Fine! Jeez!)(Where's my army? I they simply on the way?)
(Presumably movement 16<the ability to teleport. Just send your Archangel already!)
(11 angels, 3 gods, 1 Thing, you mean. The ground area they cover isn't much compared to an army, especially considering that most of them can hover.)(Yaos: Your army is, in any case, unable to fit even in the administrator's lavish house)(How big is this guy's house to hold 6 angels, 2 gods, and a ten-armed Eldritch abomination in the first place?)(Fine! Jeez!)(Where's my army? I they simply on the way?)
(Presumably movement 16<the ability to teleport. Just send your Archangel already!)
The Angel-Emperor and his 2 generic angels appear. They proceed to fight the thing.
Well, this is interesting. I'll send Kifo over..."I say we eat its corpse and keep its undoubtedly massive reserves of Essence for ourselves! Yum!" :D "I'm also a bit disappointed in you, Grauel, for not thinking of my idea yourself." ;)
Idea: we could force the manifestation back into the void. I don't know how good of an idea it is nor how difficult it would be to do so, but it's an idea.
((Just trap it in a pocket dimension or something, it would be safer and easier for all of you. And I love how I'm just sitting in a library reading books as everyone fights))(I'm just watching from the Human Plane, where no being can enter except those I allow entry. Same goes for the Shadow Realm, btw.)
((Just trap it in a pocket dimension or something, it would be safer and easier for all of you. And I love how I'm just sitting in a library reading books as everyone fights))Hmm, yeah, a pocket dimension might be easier than the void. Not to mention safer.
"I say we eat its corpse and keep its undoubtedly massive reserves of Essence for ourselves! Yum!" :D "I'm also a bit disappointed in you, Grauel, for not thinking of my idea yourself." ;)
Seriously? It seemed like quite a bit of private research had been done by some parties prior to this. Anyway, I guess it doesn't matter at this point. I'll obtain one of those books myself soon and do my own research to catch up to what everyone else has been doing. I'd rather not be the only one who's in the dark here, only to find it out several ticks later.Fusil was doing private research before this, but I was researching as the battle raged.
((Oh come on, you fight and banish an eldritch being while I'm asleep? I would have had just the insta-win move to make this the most anticlimactic event yet.))
Cim awakes from its meditation.
"You've banished a Void being, I see. Do you understand you could have instead captured it to prevent it from being resummoned?"
"Your arrogance pokes its head again, Cim. That was only a manifestation, capturing it would do no more to stop it than capturing one of our manifestations would stop us. He could just summon another one anyway, just as we would.""Yeah, it's like trying to capture the manifestation of humanity - Me. So long as humanity exists I could reform with all my powers intact, though it would take some time."
(It doesn't work that way.)"Your arrogance pokes its head again, Cim. That was only a manifestation, capturing it would do no more to stop it than capturing one of our manifestations would stop us. He could just summon another one anyway, just as we would.""Yeah, it's like trying to capture the manifestation of humanity - Me. So long as humanity exists I could reform with all my powers intact, though it would take some time."
(So what else does 'preparations' mean? Planned reincarnation? Spare body?)(It doesn't work that way.)"Your arrogance pokes its head again, Cim. That was only a manifestation, capturing it would do no more to stop it than capturing one of our manifestations would stop us. He could just summon another one anyway, just as we would.""Yeah, it's like trying to capture the manifestation of humanity - Me. So long as humanity exists I could reform with all my powers intact, though it would take some time."
"Of course not the whole being, just that particular manifestation. It's the same as when I captured Tykki. Had I simply killed her, she could have been regenerated immediately, and had not the dimensional distortion allowed you to pinpoint her location, I could have kept her for much longer."
(Something like that, but that kind of detail is better done through PM)(So what else does 'preparations' mean? Planned reincarnation? Spare body?)(It doesn't work that way.)"Your arrogance pokes its head again, Cim. That was only a manifestation, capturing it would do no more to stop it than capturing one of our manifestations would stop us. He could just summon another one anyway, just as we would.""Yeah, it's like trying to capture the manifestation of humanity - Me. So long as humanity exists I could reform with all my powers intact, though it would take some time."
"The second I noticed that you took her, the council and I pulled her out. So no, you couldn't have.""Without the distortion, would you have immediately known what had happened and where she had been taken? Optimally, she would have simply disappeared without a trace. (And if I hadn't been ninja'd, I could have explained my motives and plausibly dissuaded the council.) Still, let's not start this again, it was a mere example beside the point."
"Capturing one would be no different from killing it, as it was made-to-order.""Maybe I overestimate the beings, then, as that is extremely inefficient compared to reusing and repurposing servants."
"Without the distortion, would you have immediately known what had happened and where she had been taken? Optimally, she would have simply disappeared without a trace. (And if I hadn't been ninja'd, I could have explained my motives and plausibly dissuaded the council.) Still, let's not start this again, it was a mere example beside the point."
"Maybe I overestimate the beings, then, as that is extremely inefficient compared to reusing and repurposing servants."
"You think it is easier to pull something out of a separate dimension whenever some mortal asks for it instead of just making a new one where they are?""No, I don't. I think it's easier to move your creations elsewhere and repurpose them instead of letting them wither and using more Essence to create another. They don't need a separate dimension if they, say, use the underwater temple as a hideout. And for large enough things, transportation becomes easier than creation, even for long distances."
"It isn't a servant, it is you, and capturing it would not be able to stop the rest of you.""Not completely nor immediately, no. But the Essence spent on the manifestation gets locked away from them. Banishing allows them to keep some of it as they escape. In the long game of attrition, that counts. Unless they're stupid enough not to care about their Essence total, which does make it unnecessary."
"Still, let's not start this again, it was a mere example beside the point.">:(
"I would like to make a council proposal that says that Cim and Fusil are not allowed to talk to each other unless they're nice about it."Anath quickly agrees. "This has my support."
(Come on, give me some demons!)
"I hope this spell I got from a shady part of town for summoning Anath actually works."
*Coughing* Anath is the god of night not a void being *coughing*. Did the short, easy to pronounce name not give it away?Or the fact Anath isn't in the book of void beings? Or anything starting with A?
"Praise Anath! We managed to take the Piece!"Since eavesdropping on prayers is a thing, the Inquisition goes to capture the Piece and arrest the people who chose not to turn it in.
*Coughing* Anath is the god of night not a void being *coughing*. Did the short, easy to pronounce name not give it away?
Also, that prayer was to another god and while you are not prevented from listening in, you might wish to consider that it is probably not your follower and possibly not even human. Both I believe would make it somewhat odd for you to interfere.)(If it was human, I have a right to take his stuff because I'm the God of Humans. All of them. Regardless of whether they worship me or not. If not...oh well, guess I'm not getting it. Remember that I'm going after humans holding the Pieces because they're ILLEGAL in HUMAN settlements.)
(Oh god whyyyyyyyyy???? D: It's almost like the GM is out to get me. /joke)They're the Gestapo. Deal with it.
(The Inquisition are supposed to be closer to regular police or swat teams than secret police or Gestapo. That's an important thing to remember. Just because they deal with religious/magical threats and are called the 'Inquisition', it doesn't mean they're evil. If you watched the Men in Black movies you would probably get a better idea of what the Inquisition's like.)
Since eavesdropping on prayers is a thing, the Inquisition goes to capture the Piece and arrest the people who chose not to turn it in.Anath notes that if the Inquisition is starting to expand beyond humans, as is likely, considering most of his worshipers are Star Elves, he's going to have to start offering a bounty on the heads of any team going after his worshipers.
(Just because you are the god of humans doesn't mean you have the right to keep them as slaves and take there stuff. If you'd said this in character Anath would have happily provided copies of you saying that to everyone concerned...)Also, that prayer was to another god and while you are not prevented from listening in, you might wish to consider that it is probably not your follower and possibly not even human. Both I believe would make it somewhat odd for you to interfere.)(If it was human, I have a right to take his stuff because I'm the God of Humans. All of them. Regardless of whether they worship me or not. If not...oh well, guess I'm not getting it. Remember that I'm going after humans holding the Pieces because they're ILLEGAL in HUMAN settlements.)
(Also, does no one find the idea of creating a bunch of war animals similar to a sapient race (i.e. the Lycae) a bit disturbing?)
They're the Gestapo. Deal with it.
(If it was human, I have a right to take his stuff because I'm the God of Humans. All of them. Regardless of whether they worship me or not. If not...oh well, guess I'm not getting it. Remember that I'm going after humans holding the Pieces because they're ILLEGAL in HUMAN settlements.)
(Also, does no one find the idea of creating a bunch of war animals similar to a sapient race (i.e. the Lycae) a bit disturbing?)
(Also, does no one find the idea of creating a bunch of war animals similar to a sapient race (i.e. the Lycae) a bit disturbing?)(Yes, yes it is. As a random musing, utterly hypothetical, how hard/expensive would it be to transform all of them into Lycae and cause one of them to be a hero that would lead them to freedom?)
It probably wouldn't be all that much harder than creating the Lycae in the first place.(Also, does no one find the idea of creating a bunch of war animals similar to a sapient race (i.e. the Lycae) a bit disturbing?)(Yes, yes it is. As a random musing, utterly hypothetical, how hard/expensive would it be to transform all of them into Lycae and cause one of them to be a hero that would lead them to freedom?)
(AOT would probably be Attack on Titan, whatever that is.)(Also, does no one find the idea of creating a bunch of war animals similar to a sapient race (i.e. the Lycae) a bit disturbing?)
(IC, I find it hard to judge after eating a soup made from my own followers.)
(AOT and NGE references?)
(AOT and NGE references?)
(It was a star elf and follower of Anath staying at a human settlement after a period of wandering the wilds.)(Curses! Foiled again!)
(I suggest you take out your Arch-Lawyer and ask about extradition and diplomatic immunity.)(Nah. I don't want any trouble with the other races. Honestly.)
(Also, does no one find the idea of creating a bunch of war animals similar to a sapient race (i.e. the Lycae) a bit disturbing?)(You mean the wargs? They're literally just oversized wolves! Well, they're a bit tamer...but still!)
(They're the Gestapo. Deal with it.)(I resent that. >:( /joke)
Anath notes that if the Inquisition is starting to expand beyond humans, as is likely, considering most of his worshipers are Star Elves, he's going to have to start offering a bounty on the heads of any team going after his worshipers.(They only deal with humans.)
(Just because you are the god of humans doesn't mean you have the right to keep them as slaves and take there stuff.)(...)
(Yes. Why in the world did he make zombies to fight wars? Zombies can't hold weapons. Duh.)(Have you seen 28 Days Later? This is worse.)
(Secret Police+Zombies+Trying to summon Demons+AOT and NGE references. The god of Humans is probably the darkest out of all of us. And we have someone who eats people.)(Actually, it's more like Supernatural SWAT Team + Infected + Trying to RELEASE demons + AoT and RoE references. Also, I decided not to create the Aev'a due to the recent Ersatz law. On that note, have you watched the final season of Yugioh?)
(Why again? You seem to be causing worse things to happen by banning them...)(Exactly one person died from my attempts to gain the Pieces. Before I made them illegal, there was a massive crime spike from everyone trying to get their hands on them. Simply banning them caused those people to go into hiding so there's less crime. I'm almost willing to call it 'Mission Accomplished' at this point.)
(IC, I find it hard to judge after eating a soup made from my own followers.)(Who cares? They're plants. Plants aren't people.)
(AOT and NGE references?)(The Humanos Grande are based on the titans from Attack on Titan. I was going to make a reference based on Rebuild of Evangelion (movie adaptations of Neon Genesis Evangelion) by making the Aev'a - oversized Humanos Grande/Warrior Angel hybrids. About as violent as the Saeva but they're actually sentient and actually good at/trained in combat. They also have had human pilots to control the sheer level of savagery involved.)
"I am displeased that my holy artifacts caused this much chaos. Your inquisitors aren't helping the situation at all Yaos.""Ever since I banned them the level of crime has gone dramatically down, and so far the attempts at gathering the coins has resulted in only a single death, which I hope to rectify shortly. I still request that all Pieces be removed from the world, or at least human lands."
Sure thing, Yaos! Shouldn't be too much trouble."Thank you Joha."
"Joha, could you help me bring two humans back to life? Together, the cost in doing so would be negligible, as you are the Goddess of Life, I am the God of Humans, and we are attempted to bring humans back to life.Sure, no problem.
My followers are currently drowning in a sea of the others. No doubt, it is time for that to be the other way around.(Looking at that post, I would say Freud was right but it would be more like Void was right.)
I begin pulling out more tentacles, mass producing Armu by the hundreds of thousand, yet with all the care I dedicate to all my creation. Tentacle after tentacle fills the void, wriggling around in space, as I lovingly inspect every inch for imperfection, repairing them where I find them. Then, they are sent out to one of the two worlds, with my blessing in words if not power. They can bless themselves that way. An unspecified number of millions are created this way, worth 5 essence points.
Yaos revives the baby's parents and gives them their baby back. Yaos informs the father that while he'd have been searching for the Piece, his wife would've died from childbirth and so would've been forced to use the Pieces to save her wife rather than her father. He lost nothing in the end."Joha, could you help me bring two humans back to life? Together, the cost in doing so would be negligible, as you are the Goddess of Life, I am the God of Humans, and we are attempted to bring humans back to life.Sure, no problem.
(Why are we having these conversations in the IC thread? If we continue, let's carry it over to OOC at the very least.)(Ayup.)
Azem creates/created? an island with a wealth of shinies waiting be plundered on Keshan, and fills/filled it with venomous orb-weavers, and living trees with apples of gold and sap with healing properties.Yaos inspires ambition in some especially powerful non-humans to go to the island.
"Everyone feel free to stock the island with your own treasures, or more dangers to guard the treasures. Or indeed, dangerous treasures."
"Yaos be praised! My Void army and not my set of suspiciously misshapen dice has won!"
Uh, Strike Team Fusil? It's either a void cultist or someone playing a new board game. I hope the latter. It makes the prospect of you busting in with a death squad all the more entertaining.
Their parents have already passed on to Slytha, as they did not actually do too many significant deeds worthy of your notice.Yaos and Joha instead work to bring the grandfather back to life. Considering that he died fighting the Gruen, he should have likely gone to the Human Plane.
"I wish I was as tall as a mountain!"IGNORED
"I wish my little brother would get better, but not even the priests can heal him and my inheritance is running out." (plot-block)
"Yaos be praised! My Void army and not my set of suspiciously misshapen dice has won!"
"Thank Yaos I got a job in the Inquisition. Now I can get free food and shelter wherever I go with my whole squad."
"I want my doll to be alive! Make it happen now!"
I guess it is only fair now that we are friendish with the Gruen to greet their opponents, the Humans. I have a group of Armu dance in the sky to the tooting of a pipe on the Human capitals of both worlds, raining down miscellaneous shinies. The group then meets the Emperor of man, informing him about their races new place in this world.They are accepted and welcomed. Yaos makes the wind blow so that any shinies that would've hit someone and hurt them gets lightly pushed by the wind so they just miss their targets.
(Actually, it's more like Supernatural SWAT Team + Infected + Trying to RELEASE demons + AoT and RoE references.I guess Avatar can also be added to the list of references.
"I believe ignoring most of bickering happening here left me rather unclear on an important matter. Is war between humans and gruen still a thing?"
"Lady Joha, do you have any recommendations on how to start an Experiment-House of Life (read: laboratory)? We have many great ideas and nowhere to execute them."Hm... I have this one shrine somewhere around here that has an artifact that could be useful for that... other than that, try to collect a largeish number of elves with similar wishes. I could certainly help you with that (not to mention that it's likely much safer).
A wood elf walks into a bar. "Joha! My head!"Maybe you should be more careful next time?
Kifo asks if you would like to play cards with some angels and recently dead mortals.Hm, sounds fun. I'll be over... wherever this is in a moment.
"By Joh', I wish the wood wern't so thick! Then we'd already be tradin' days ago."I'll subtly relocate some trees so as to make a clearer passageway through the forest.
A suspicious little girl asks for a pony but with a tentacle mouth.[no comment]
A suspicious little girl asks for a pony but with a tentacle mouth.
"I want my doll to be alive! Make it happen now!"
"I wish my little brother would get better, but not even the priests can heal him and my inheritance is running out." (plot-block)
Azem has rescattered Pieces of Eight not owned by his creatures to places where they are more likely to be found by his own creatures. Here are some recent, notable prayers:
Some Sorae on your treasure island pray for your guidance in their quest for shinies
Golem foreman: "Lord Azem, May We Construct A Temple On Your Island That You May Have A Good Shiny Storehouse? We Will Fill It With Traps Made Of Shiny Metals."
Alprozem, having grown somewhat wiser, has asked for your advice on his rashly issued prohibition of mates for your clergy.
Gem Council Quartz: "Does the Void contain or have shinies, Azem?"
(Fusil: It matters to anyone using currency, and you can't really do major actions without some casualties. Minor actions are still possible and fairly easy without too many deaths.)
"If only Serac made the electric rays around our towns more intelligent and trainable."I meant too do that actually...
"Can you make us bright and colorful island turtles?"Why? Making each island turtle colourful will only promote competition.
"It's hard to heat metal enough out in the open sea on top of a living creature. Can you show us a way, O Serac?"And I meant to give that to the Ritan. The names were the other way originally...
"The tides are always bad when we try to dock for trade. Fix this!"You have wings... I will grant you floatstone.
(what? Im confused. I dont want dead followers to worship me from the afterlife. You said that if the population in the afterlife was equal to or greater than 5% of the mortal population, id get less worship quality from the kiving mortals. The proposal is to prevent the dead population from affecting the worship quality of those still willing.)
"im having trouble with a human. I think it has void sickness or something because i cant fix it. Anyone have any ideas?"
"I propose that even if theres no souls waiting for reincarnation, babies will still be born. That way, people can go to private afterlives without adversely affecting our worshipper base.""That is already the case. A proposal such as this would be instantly obsolete."
@Fusil: "I didnt kill the mother you ass! And the babys sickness has nothing to do with his parents being dead! If it was a normal sickness either I or Joha could heal him but we cant. If its because of the void we should find out whats wrong with him rather than kill him...unless you dont want us to find out. Why would that be Fusil?"
Recently, a human nobleman has died in a skirmish against the Gruen. His son, the eldest of the family, attempted to collect the Celestial Coins so as to wish his father back to life. Unfortunately for him, the Inquisition demanded the Coins and he resisted, resulting in his death. His wife has also recently died, but the cause of this seems to have been giving birth.
(Souls still do spawn out of nothing, but they barely exceed the total birthrates. This is part of the cost of creating worshippers.)(But i dont create worshippers. I only create humans. If they choose to worship me thats their choice. Unless by creating worshippers you mean creating people capable of worship.)
"Wrong. If too many people go to an afterlife instead of reincarnating less people get born.""Only if you design your afterlife to prevent births in there. An afterlife doesn't have to be the final rest of the soul, either. The possibilites are almost infinite, if you get creative. Don't limit your own powers."
"OR - and just I'm just putting it out there - we use our nigh-infinite god powers to make it so that we don't get inconvenienced no matter WHAT we do! Did you think about that, Cim the Above-the-Lawgiver? Why don't we just make it so that no matter WHAT our afterlives are like the mortal realm remains unaffected! I want my followers to have eternal happiness for being good people WITHOUT the wholly unnecessary condition that I then get less followers.""Wrong. If too many people go to an afterlife instead of reincarnating less people get born.""Only if you design your afterlife to prevent births in there. An afterlife doesn't have to be the final rest of the soul, either. The possibilites are almost infinite, if you get creative. Don't limit your own powers."
"Do you think I like suggesting infanticide?""You have suggested literally nothing else. Just saying."
"You shout about how the void caused this sickness, but have not brought forth any proof. At least when I accuse people it makes since. Why in the two worlds would the Null kill a random baby? What would anyone gain from it?""I am the goddess of HUMANS. Joha is the goddess of LIFE. With our power combined we SHOULD be able to heal this baby IN AN INSTANT but we CAN'T. AT ALL. If not the Void, THEN WHAT OTHER BLASTED THING IS CAPABLE OF STOPPING THE COMBINED POWER OF TWO FREAKING GODS!!!"
"She was fine before her parents died, by your hand.""The FATHER - instead of praying to Me and asking for help, instead decided to break the law and resist arrest. The MOTHER died of CHILDBIRTH which I had NOTHING TO DO WITH. The sister is merely upset. Her BABY BROTHER, on the other hand, is DYING OF A SICKNESS THAT EVEN GODS CAN'T CURE! HOW THE BLAZES DOES HAVING DEAD PARENTS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH HAVING A GOD-INCURABLE ILLNESS!"
"Somehow, it feels like everything would have gone well if not for you.""Well FUCK YOU TOO FUSIL!"
"Now hurry up and fix that poor child, one way or another.""Congratulations, Fusil. Congratulations.
Calm down fellow gods, we shouldn't let tiny problem in the mortal world create such anger and hatred, if the mortal prove to be too much of a problem we can always get rid of them and the start new."Imma veto this. That would require killing hundreds of thousands of humans. I'm kinda sorta against that." :/
I propose that we populate the world with numerous gigantic carnivorous plants, underground vegetations, giant mythical beasts that roam the land and maybe a bronze colossuses or three. Or just mythical creatures of gigantic proportion. So the mortal can forge some interesting legends."I'm interested in this idea but there should also be some good creatures that help mortals as well. Unless we have those kinds to counteract the bad kinds I Oppose this proposal."
I propose that we populate the world with numerous gigantic carnivorous plants, underground vegetations, giant mythical beasts that roam the land and maybe a bronze colossuses or three. Or just mythical creatures of gigantic proportion. So the mortal can forge some interesting legends.I agree with this
I propose that we populate the world with numerous gigantic carnivorous plants, underground vegetations, giant mythical beasts that roam the land and maybe a bronze colossuses or three. Or just mythical creatures of gigantic proportion. So the mortal can forge some interesting legends.
I propose that we populate the world with numerous gigantic carnivorous plants, underground vegetations, giant mythical beasts that roam the land and maybe a bronze colossuses or three. Or just mythical creatures of gigantic proportion. So the mortal can forge some interesting legends.Support
Dah, ain't that the cutest? Sounds like something my daughter would do, if I had one. Taking pity on her, I find a little Armu girl and take her to the kid. Before they meet, the Armu uses her powers to transform herself into the shape a pony, keeping her tentacle near her mouth. Now she has a pony with a tentacle mouth that can talk, warp reality, and fight a war as a friend!
Still, if I made a pet in almost your identical image, wouldn't it be the slightest bit... Well, guess it's none of my business. Just seems somewhat devaluing I suppose. Like how it would be odd if I made an unintelligent very human looking creature and started having them serve as pets to the Gruen. Don't mind me, just thinking out loud.
Oh, were Lycae made before dogs? Huh, still odd thinking about it.
I propose that we populate the world with numerous gigantic carnivorous plants, underground vegetations, giant mythical beasts that roam the land and maybe a bronze colossuses or three. Or just mythical creatures of gigantic proportion. So the mortal can forge some interesting legends.
Like how it would be odd if I made an unintelligent very human looking creature and started having them serve as pets to the Gruen."You may be surprised to know tha- "
"Didn't the God of Humans already do that, exempt he forced them into war.""Yes, exactly that."
Oh, were Lycae made before dogs? Huh, still odd thinking about it."No no no! The DOGS came BEFORE the LYCAE. First Joha made a variant of wolves that would live with humans through their lives as companions, then she made a variant of wolves that were sapient (or were they sentient?), then she made a variant of wolves that were larger and tameable so they could be used as mounts for Humans."
I purposefully ignore the God of Humans mad tirade, knowing him/her to be a mood swingy person."I apologise for my previous outburst. It was a very stressful day and as it turns out I was really hungry. If you ever find yourself in Heldinheim, be sure to stop by Benito's Sandwich Shop. Their sandwiches are really just excellent."
Hey Azem. Want to see what happens when you feed Gruen spores to a Dragon?"That better not be a Star Dragon you're running that experiment on." Anath rumbles.
In many ways, it resembles forgetting to put a resistance gene in your vector's insert or not using a treated growth medium.(Anyone know what any of this technobabble even means?)
The Yaos is called such with the definite article because the GodManager finds it confusing to write about multiple beings sharing a name and flickering between grammatical categories. but the GodManager is open to suggestions on this issue.(What multiple beings? There is only one Yaos.)
"I continue to urge gods to SUPPORT Proposal 18.00. We lose nothing from signing it into effect and it will prevent bad and entirely preventable things from happening to us. Serac, Anath, Azem, Cim, Varee, I expect all of you to support this considering you all have your own afterlives. Wouldn't it be better if they DIDN'T detract from your worshipper base? Don't you want more freedom - as gods, I'll remind - to do as you see fit without negative consequence?"
"I oppose this. You continue to toy with powers you do not understand, for your own selfish gain, because you don't find the reincarnation system 'good enough' for your followers. You should not toy around with mortal souls. Simply leave things as they are, for fear you might ruin the perfect system we have now for petty reasons.""Perfect system? If it was perfect it would allow for afterlives with no problem at all. Petty reasons? With your first breath you say it's not right to toy with mortal souls, and in the next you chastise me for attempting to provide a genuinely good atmosphere for them to exist with the caveat that I am not unnecessarily punished for it. There are NO downsides to changing the system in the way I have suggested. The only arguments you have put forth are 'you don't know what I'm doing' or 'the system is perfect and I would know because I would benefit from the new one' or 'I'm scared of change'. Do you have any good reasons for not changing it? Any? Please tell us. The 'we don't know what will happen' argument is invalid because we are GODS and we can choose exactly what will happen."
"Perfect system? If it was perfect it would allow for afterlives with no problem at all. Petty reasons? With your first breath you say it's not right to toy with mortal souls, and in the next you chastise me for attempting to provide a genuinely good atmosphere for them to exist with the caveat that I am not unnecessarily punished for it. There are NO downsides to changing the system in the way I have suggested. The only arguments you have put forth are 'you don't know what I'm doing' or 'the system is perfect and I would know because I would benefit from the new one' or 'I'm scared of change'. Do you have any good reasons for not changing it? Any? Please tell us. The 'we don't know what will happen' argument is invalid because we are GODS and we can choose exactly what will happen."
"What is the point of afterlives, young god? If we made this planet perfect, we would have no need of them. That was the purpose of the system. Why bring them out of the cycle, when they can be happy and essentially live forever on the two planets? You don't know what will happen, yet say you do. You are a fool, the God Master even warned you that such an action would have unforeseen consequences. Yet you ignore that, happily trudging on towards oblivion. And for what? So a handful of humans can worship you? They could have done that without being pulled from the system. If you want worship, get it from the living. Don't mess with the dead. The system we have now is fine, and there is no need for you to break it for a few more essence points! If you are so worried about losing followers just. make. more."(There seems to be a grave misunderstanding. The GM said that having people already in the afterlife being able to worship you would be broken. I agree and I DO NOT want that. The system I propose makes it so that people in the afterlife are still UNABLE TO WORSHIP but that it does not affect the BIRTH RATE of the LIVING. All Yaos is asking is for an increase in the spawn rate of souls so that more living sapients are able to be born, unaffected by the extraction of souls from the world into the afterlife.
"What is the point of afterlives, young god? If we made this planet perfect, we would have no need of them. That was the purpose of the system. Why bring them out of the cycle, when they can be happy and essentially live forever on the two planets? You don't know what will happen, yet say you do. You are a fool, the God Master even warned you that such an action would have unforeseen consequences. Yet you ignore that, happily trudging on towards oblivion. And for what? So a handful of humans can worship you? They could have done that without being pulled from the system. If you want worship, get it from the living. Don't mess with the dead. The system we have now is fine, and there is no need for you to break it for a few more essence points! If you are so worried about losing followers just. make. more."(There seems to be a grave misunderstanding. The GM said that having people already in the afterlife being able to worship you would be broken. I agree and I DO NOT want that. The system I propose makes it so that people in the afterlife are still UNABLE TO WORSHIP but that it does not affect the BIRTH RATE of the LIVING. All Yaos is asking is for an increase in the spawn rate of souls so that more living sapients are able to be born, unaffected by the extraction of souls from the world into the afterlife.
At the moment, souls get reincarnated and can worship while they're alive. If they die and go to an afterlife instead of reincarnating, they stop being able to worship. The problem is that the amount of souls capable of worshipping (those that reincarnate) is decreasing while the amount of souls NOT capable of worshipping (those that go to an afterlife) is increasing. The aim of the proposal is to increase the spawn rate of souls so that the amount of souls capable of worship stays the same regardless of the amount of souls that go to afterlives.
If the proposal passes, souls in the afterlife will REMAIN INCAPABLE of worship.)
(Pretty much any automated boost or curse system applied to mortals will be likely to run into Literal Genie problems, especially if it is insufficiently rigorous or specific. This represents the lack of attention paid in exchange for the convenience of automation and is not a sign of any annoyance or wrath.)
"Beyond that, said unforeseen consequences are possibly foreseen, definitely unwanted.""Wait a minute. You actually see a objective consequences? Please elaborate. I don't know of any consequences and it would be good if I did. At best we could probably even work around it and reach a satisfactory conclusion for everyone."
Some particularly greedy, ambitious Dwarves have been inspired to dig deeper. Despite the warnings of the Freeminers, they continue to attempt to dig deeper in the deepest, most recently abandoned sections of the mine. Many die within the first few days.(Huh. The reckless dwarves were supposed to be the Freeminers. The Freeminers were supposed to be a secret society of miners dedicated to the - let's say tradition - tradition of digging deeper and damning the consequences.)
Yaos also listens to some less-trivial wishes:"Granted, but don't put in any Void words."
"I want to create a book with a list of words and their meanings. I must do it! Yaos and Artisanii help me!"
"Yaos, I need you to check on a house hosting Void cultists. We Inquisitors would do it but whatever."
"When I grow up, I want Yaos to make me an Inquisitatinator."
"By the power of Yaos and friendship, I lift this rock up! No? Curses."
"By my sword and Yaos, I hope to stop these skeletons from bothering us with their rattling."
"O Yaos, could you collapse my neighbor's house? He hosts cultists every evening and they used their Apathy god to make the Inquisition apathetic about it!"
Yaos: You create a very weak corporeal helper to watch humanity and provide helpful advice every tick. (Advice dispensed regularly is not guaranteed to be helpful for the OOC reason that you don't always need advice and I don't always have advice to give.)"So... Any advice for me, Jeffrey?"
"I am already investigating the Apathy cult. Don't destroy them just yet; I intend to weed them by the root.""Hmmm....fine. But do so quickly or I'll try out my new wave motion gun on them."
"As one of the creators of the current reincarnation system, I oppose proposal 18.00." Anath notes to the council."The reincarnation system would not have gone anywhere, the proposal was only supposed to take away the disincentive of followers going to an afterlife. But....recent revelations has revealed to me that there would, in fact, be penalties applied by using the proposal I proposed, so I guess we can take it off the table."
"I want to create a book with a list of words and their meanings. I must do it! Yaos and Artisanii help me!"(It was easy to miss. It was in my list of prayers but considering that he also addressed it to Artisanii he probably would've heard the prayer without even having to eavesdrop.)
ACK, any secret goals to declare via PM?Spoiler: Chyribylta (click to show/hide)
"Yeah! Go Yaos! Yaos Yaos Yaos! Now can I be an Inquisininatinator?""Hihihi!" XD "You're funny! Sorry, but that's not not really what I meant. How about I make you a Junior Inquisitor? It'll be your job to find Heretics and report them to Senior Inquisitors! If you do well enough they might promote you to Senior Inquisitor as well! Good luck!" :D
(As big as a large fist)
"No. Lately there's been a bunch of skeletons practicing their dancing, and no one can sleep."
"He succeeded, but in a boring way."
Jeffrey tells you "I think you should hold a random festival. That should increase your approval.""Thank you, Jeffrey." ;)
("Hihihi!" XD "You're funny! Sorry, but that's not not really what I meant. How about I make you a Junior Inquisitor? It'll be your job to find Heretics and report them to Senior Inquisitors! If you do well enough they might promote you to Senior Inquisitor as well! Good luck!" :D)
"I don't even... what? Sounds like Void magic. Or possibly necromancy." :/ "I'll send over a Humanos to take care of it." I send a Humanos Grande to romp-a-stomp the skellos.
(Anyone else reminded of 1984?)((I'd say it's closer to Hitler Youth, but in this case I was just telling him to basically follow the law (considering what qualifies as Heresy I'd say it's very not-evil). I just dressed it up a bit to sound important so that he would stop bugging me to become an Inquisitor.))
"Shouldn't you check to see what it is first, or at least send a servant with intellegence? It would be horrible for you to slaughter a dance troop, or something similar. Also, whatever happened to that ill baby?""Silly Fusil!" ;) "You're forgetting that I'm a god! I can just look at the place and see that it's random dancing skeletons! Besides, I'm controlling the Humanos myself so no-one will get hurt. As for the baby, the sister kinda took him and is hiding herself and the baby from me. Considering that neither is in the Human Plane I'm guessing they're both alive and well. That makes me happy." :)
"True. But we tend to get protective of our followers don't we?""Yeah remember that time with the sister and the baby and stuff? It's important to keep a little distance, even if we don't like it."
((I'd say it's closer to Hitler Youth, but in this case I was just telling him to basically follow the law (considering what qualifies as Heresy I'd say it's very not-evil). I just dressed it up a bit to sound important so that he would stop bugging me to become an Inquisitor.))
"Silly Fusil!" ;) "You're forgetting that I'm a god! I can just look at the place and see that it's random dancing skeletons! Besides, I'm controlling the Humanos myself so no-one will get hurt. As for the baby, the sister kinda took him and is hiding herself and the baby from me. Considering that neither is in the Human Plane I'm guessing they're both alive and well. That makes me happy." :)
*sigh* "Great. So god-killing swords are a thing. First, I would like to propose that nobody is allowed to create god-killing weapons. Sorry Fusil." :(
She's hiding from us so we can't find her, and she's been missing for more than 41 days so if she had taken up the Void we'd already be seeing dead angels. Since we haven't, I don't think she will. Thirdly, fate will prevent us from doing anything even related to her, so we'd just be wasting time, energy, and Essence on practically nothing."
"Your sword-control laws won't help anybody. That won't stop the void. Even if not forbidden, I would need at least two other gods to make one. Three gods can no doubt bypass such a law.""I'm not hearing a 'SUPPORT'. I'm guessing that means you plan on making one."
"It wouldn't follow the exact same path, of course. Why would you assume it would? If she had dissipated into a "Bubble" as the one in the example had, it would certainly explain the fact she dispersed...We should at least look for eldrich energies in the general area.""Good idea, but someone else will have to do it. All my angels are doing stuff and the area is too large for my Inquisitors to do a good search, and they're busy any way."
Yaos has opened up heretic rehabilitation facilities (operating on the principle of Voidy talks).(That was actually a reminder that they already exist. The facilities have existed ever since the Inquisitors were a thing and I'd already mentioned them a while ago (the first time I elaborated on the description of the Inquisition if I remember correctly). Void worshippers are not treated as Heretics, but rather as something else entirely.)
Anath eyes the other gods. "In regard to god slaying swords, we all did sign my accord where we agreed not to try to kill each other. I think 'trying to kill each other with god slaying swords' counts as trying to kill each other, so that's already forbidden.""Yeah but the proposal will ban people from making or owning them. It'll make it just that little bit harder for someone to kill another god."
"Yeah but the proposal will ban people from making or owning them. It'll make it just that little bit harder for someone to kill another god."
"That's no reason not have laws! At the very least we should agree on this on principal alone!" >:I
You say god killing sword, but it wasn't really. It could kill angels, but I doubt it would be able to kill a god. Besides, they would have to find you..."Yeah but if there were weapons capable of killing gods we'd want to ban them, right?"
"Yeah but if there were weapons capable of killing gods we'd want to ban them, right?"
-_-Quote"Yeah but if there were weapons capable of killing gods we'd want to ban them, right?"
"No. Why would we do that?"
"I would also like to point out that Fusil has a vested interest in the matter, so to say, unless he was bluffing during our conflict.""That actually brings up a good point about something else. If, for example, the council voted on whether to punish another god, is that god still allowed to vote on the matter? He would still technically be on the council after all."
"I would also like to point out that Fusil has a vested interest in the matter, so to say, unless he was bluffing during our conflict.""That actually brings up a good point about something else. If, for example, the council voted on whether to punish another god, is that god still allowed to vote on the matter? He would still technically be on the council after all."
"Ok, for obvious reasons, and no. In that order.""I would also like to point out that Fusil has a vested interest in the matter, so to say, unless he was bluffing during our conflict.""That actually brings up a good point about something else. If, for example, the council voted on whether to punish another god, is that god still allowed to vote on the matter? He would still technically be on the council after all."
"Of course they would be, and how is that related at all? Are you suggesting something?"
"The Tree of Balance sounds delicious. Can you help us eat it?""No, that would make the god of balance very annoyed at me, because his followers live on it."
Star Squid:Anath introduces to the Star Squid the game of Underwater Polo (adapted for being played by squids) and goes to investigate the whale like creature.
"I wish this whale-like creature would be friendlier to us."
"Can you make us some interesting games to play?"
Star Dragon:"I'd advise against it, but if you desire that transformation I will not stop you."
"Should I eat Gruen spores to become a mighty Grue dragon too?"
"Will you create more constellations?""Maybe. None currently planned though."
"Are you space?""No, I merely hold domain over it."
Jeffrey advises that you watch your Essence spending before embarking on large projects."No shit Jeffrey. How about you do your job right and give me useful advice relating to my people."
The Breaker Knights seem to remain hidden. The few that are caught are mostly impressionable youth who will surely be swayed after some time in re-education.Due to not accepting the demands given by Yaos, the Breaker Knights are officially labelled as a terrorist group. Using Yaos' Human powers (which allow her to see humans that aren't divinely/Voidically/fate-ally/etcetera cloaked), she finds where terrorist cells are hiding. To dispatch them, a combination of Paladins (who have flamethrowers that allow them to get around the Knights' special abilities) and Humanos Controlados is used. Inquisitors continue to do what they've been doing in regards to youths. They are NOT to initiate combat with any Breaker Knights. Their job is to find Breaker cells that have been cloaked and report them to Paladins and Controlados. Their job also extends to interrogating prisoners to find more cells (go wild with the Orwellian stuff here, but restrict it to the ones actually being interrogated).
@Joha: "So waddya think of my supes awesome idea, Joha? Just a little help with making some angels and I start an annual festival in your honour!" :D "I can also get the Emperor to make some temples for you if you want."Hm, sure, Yaos!
Yaos, I'll give you one essence for the jelly roll maker.
Jeffrey has provided some advice for Yaos: "I think people think badly about your Inquisition because of some meddler god twisting them into carricatures.""Thank you Jeffrey, now le- wait WHAT!? You did well bringing this up Jeffrey."
Yaos has also found a few of the younger members of the Breaker Knights and a few cells, but it is widely suspected that the more important Breaker Knights have decent abjuration spells, thus explaining how they seemingly appeared out of nowhere.Luckily, the Keshan Aurora has never been brighter which should help Yaos and Divination mages to help find them. In any case, the Paladins and Controlados receive orders to attempt to capture higher-ranking Breaker Knights.
They find many, but these seem to be cannon fodder and lift a hand only to block attacks using the powerful Breaker shields, which nullify and destroy non-unique weapons. A dozen or so flamethrowers have been disintegrated over the course of the investigation.(I'm going to have to challenge this.)
They also report that many people have suddenly reported their property being used for illegal Breaker Knight meetings in the world's first case of widespread insurance fraud. It seems that many of them are mostly empty houses with kicked over furniture and spilled food.(*sigh* This is Gem Dragon Mercenaries all over again. Compensation is only paid out in the event that property is damaged by Paladins, Controlados, or mages when attacking Breaker Knights - NOT for simply harboring them. Compensation is paid out ASAP AFTER the damage is done.)
Shifty human: "I wish for a mountain made of solid gold to appear next to a human town."IGNORED
Hot human: "Maybe if the world were cooler, I'd be happier. If only Yaos could do something about that."
Wandering Gruen: "Could you not attack the Gruen? Only one in a few dozens of thousands of Gruen actually eat humans. It's really not fair."
Adventurous human: "Do you know if this brown starchy vegetable is edible?"
Curious human: "What's eldritch anyway?"
Breaker Knight in custody: "By Yaos, I want to become the god of humans!"
An alarming loophole in the prayer specification system has been discovered.
A human inventor has invented a device that will end all wars because war would seem like nothing compared to it. The human inventor has created..........Spoiler (click to show/hide)
In a random graveyard, skeletons have risen and begun dancing to a haunting violin solo. The townspeople, naturally, complain of not being able to sleep from the excessive noise.Eh. It's only for one night.
This update's dominant constellations are the Crown and Gravestone. The Keshan aurora are brightening noticeably.(Wait, so the constellations are chosen at random? I thought they were activated in list-based order.)
Yaos (with Joha's help) creates two archangels: Lette and Vaal. Lette is female, has purple eyes, is rather boisterous, and her main colour scheme for her clothing is white. Vaal is male, has orange eyes, is rather reserved (and at times, brooding), and his main colour scheme for his clothing is black. They are both combat-enhanced, fusion-capable, and ENHANCED. They are placed in Keshan.@Joha: "So waddya think of my supes awesome idea, Joha? Just a little help with making some angels and I start an annual festival in your honour!" :D "I can also get the Emperor to make some temples for you if you want."Hm, sure, Yaos!
Yaos, I'll give you one essence for the jelly roll maker."Deal!"
"Why are you meddling, Fusil? Do you have something against me?"Yaos, I'll give you one essence for the jelly roll maker.
"You are at war. Just take it from him, claim it as your own. He was a fool to think it will end all wars, it will only give them something to fight for!"
Yeah but that will take longer and I want it now. The Devourer loves jelly rolls. It's the perfect gift!"Always happy to help!"
Have a Jelly Roll Festival held in the capital with all invited.Cim joins in with the festivities.
"I see no reason not to see how exactly the Gruen culture has developed. I might smite some troublemakers if there are any, don't mind it.""That reminds me, can you give me the locations of the remaining Breaker Knights? They are very much against the law now, your feud with Fusil has ended, and I think all three of us would be pleased if they were brought to justice for their crimes. They probably aren't cloaked against you what with you being their founder."
Have a Jelly Roll Festival held in the capital with all invited. Notes are sent out to those Gruen who broke away saying they are of course welcome to come enjoy the festival and possibly reunite with old friends.
"You say they'll eventually grow to become sapient human souls? Interesting. Very interesting."
"It would still be interesting to see whose sphere would be dominant. On the one hand it will have the body of a weapon but on the other it will have the soul of a Human. Moreover, it would be interesting to see if they - as sapient creatures - will be capable of worship. Certainly interesting notions indeed.""You say they'll eventually grow to become sapient human souls? Interesting. Very interesting.""I didn't say anything. GET OUT OF MY HEAD! GET OUT OF MY HEEEAAAAAD! Anyway, they become the same species as whatever wields them, and are still spirits. They can simply take the form of what they are wielded as."
Does a war golem qualify as a weapon?"Oh gods, please don't mention that kind of stuff. Us gods need limits, you know. Act as if it doesn't."
Unfortunately for them, patents do not exist."Cim? Could you invent patents, please?"
Jeffrey advises that Yaos be less protective of the humans for the cause of increasing their independence and decreasing the amount of petty prayers."You think that'll work? Alright then."
The many people who attempted insurance fraud are now mourning and praying that you restore their houses. Your wiser followers are extremely irritated by their insolence and some of them are praying for you to punish them by scattering the food and furniture even more.Granted, for most. Those who have the highest combination of being evil, not worshipping Me, and being disliked by their local community will have their property confiscated instead. The exceptions are those who actually have a valid claim, of course. Just who do they think they're dealing with? I am a god after all.
The human requesting the definition of "eldritch" seems somewhat satisfied but seems to want to see a demonstration of something that can be described as eldritch.He is shown Grauel's primary form.
(The constellations have (so far) been chosen at random because we don't actually know how long each tick lasts. Any requests for changes should be sent to Anath, Mage of Shadow.)"Anath, could you do me the favour of changing the Keshan constellation to The Staff? It only needs to be active for about a Tick."
The humans now have festivals to Varee and Joha, but the festival to Joha is currently undescribed while the festival to Varee is spreading everywhere and everywhen."If I can provide a suggestion, Joha, perhaps you might do something similar to what Varee does with his Mystic Snow? Instead of snow though, you can make unique plants that give off similar but different effects. From what I can tell, Varee's Snow makes people happy; what if your plants made them more....mellow? Calm? Satisfied? Just a suggestion. Oh! Before I forget, if you ever need a favour from me, just ask."
The Cim-derived concealment spells easily dissolve before Cim's efforts, revealing that they currently live under a Luminee town."The Light, if you might instruct your followers to surrender the Breaker Knights, or at the least to evacuate the town, that would be great."
"Cim? Could you invent patents, please?"Cim glares at Yaos wordlessly for a long, long time.
Varee visit the human festival and see if it is really that good?Varee: It is that good! People are going wild and having a massive ruckus and everything is random. Let's hope, for the sake of maintaining a no-riot record, that neither you nor Yaos halt the flow of Mystic Snow, addictive as it is.
...I also do a little INCEPTION on a Dwarven King to dig deeper. This idea will not naturally be removed.
...This idea will not naturally go away on its own...
...the INCEPTION he performed on the small group of deep-miners (now known as the Freeminers) was to DIG DEEPER with the caveat that the idea will not naturally go away on its own...Basically, what happened was that they continued to receive the lasting dreams you paid so much for (since much of the cost was either opposing their individual preference or the aforementioned lasting influence part). I guess you could artificially remove them (for free) if you wanted.)
"Yes, I could. But why? Innovation should be shared, not monopolized.""One: because you're the god of order - not the god of freedom. Two: the existence of patents is inherently reliant on law, while the lack of them is not. Three: Slythan humans kind of need the jelly roll maker patent so they can reasonably compete with Gem Dragon economies while not starving. Without patents it will just get stolen by other races and they won't profit as well as they deserve."
"One: because you're the god of order - not the god of freedom. Two: the existence of patents is inherently reliant on law, while the lack of them is not. Three: Slythan humans kind of need the jelly roll maker patent so they can reasonably compete with Gem Dragon economies while not starving. Without patents it will just get stolen by other races and they won't profit as well as they deserve.""Believe it or not, but a market with certain freedoms causes much less corruption and chaos than one without them. While freely sharing ideas is not always very orderly, forcing corporate espionage would cause chaos behind the scenes, which is worse than some in plain view. As for competition, they simply have to make a better product than their competitors, not one only they can make, leading to a benevolent circle."
Creating something new is a demanding and long taking work. The way it is now, the work goes unrewarded, and anyone smart enough to suceed will figure out that it's not worth it."This too."
Creating something new is a demanding and long taking work. The way it is now, the work goes unrewarded, and anyone smart enough to suceed will figure out that it's not worth it."Au contraire, an innovative entrepreneur is always one step ahead his competitors by knowing how to make the best product and will have to keep innovating to stay on top."
"You make good points about competition, but patents are really the only hope the Slythan humans have of competing. The Gem Dragons hold a monopoly on practically everything and the only way the humans can compete at all with them is with a patent - a patent that will inevitably expire, mind you."It is simply a matter of creating a more competent product. Without patents, anyone can make any product better, cheaper, fancier, or whichever niche is to be filled, and compete better. You're the God of Ambition. Show some of it and spread it among your followers. Soon they will compete, possibly forming a temporary syndicate to bring down the giant."
Moreover, this isn't just a matter of healthy economic competition. Actual death via starvation is a possibility if their nigh total control of the economy is allowed to continue unabated."
"To give a Law and Travel boost to Lyle so he can have a safe journey to Gem Dragon lands and then sue the crap out of them."$$$$
"You're the God of Ambition. Show some of it and spread it among your followers. Soon they will compete, possibly forming a temporary syndicate to bring down the giant.""My blessing of Ambition is what got them so far and unfortunately it hasn't been enough. If we're going to start having goes against gods and their spheres, what about you? You yourself are the god of order yet you allow unorderly activity to exist simply for the fear that there might be further disorder later along the line? As the god of ambition I find that quite lacking, really! You ought to strive to bring as much law and order as possible! Instead you simply settle for second best because it's a little less risky. As a result, my people - and DAMN your theoretical, unproven, untested ideologies! - are forced to walk a fine line between advancing one's self and starving!"
(Aren't price checks supposed to go in the OOC? Don't worry about Lyle - he'll have so many buffs and blessings and whatnot that I'd say he has a pretty decent chance of winning the case. Besides, he has a flying angel to carry him around everywhere as he needs it.)"To give a Law and Travel boost to Lyle so he can have a safe journey to Gem Dragon lands and then sue the crap out of them."$$$$
Price check on making a constellation dominant?
Not that I expect Lyle to see any success at all. I don't even think the Gem Dragons actually have lands, being dragons, instead of having a lot of separate lairs.
"Anath, is there any reason why we would want gas giants to exist? It would have to really be worth it to justify the Essence cost. On that note, is there a minimum waiting period before a proposal is either passed or failed?""Personally, if it passed I was considering making a species or two to live on them. Besides, our solar system is very barren. It should have more then a single planet, a sun, and an asteroid belt."
(Eh, maybe but I was answering you at the same time so I didn't bother. And I doubt Lyle will win because there is no one source to lay a lawsuit on, all the gem dragons are likely to deny they owe anything anyway, he doesn't actually have a court to take the matter to, and so on. If he actually separated out all the ones that took money, got them to admit taking the money, got them to admit that they should show up at court over it, got them to actually show up at court about it, and had a court for them to show up at, maybe, but as is I doubt he'll get anything from even one dragon. No group suits for the dragons when they're all independent and you'll have to go after each of them individually.)(Aren't price checks supposed to go in the OOC? Don't worry about Lyle - he'll have so many buffs and blessings and whatnot that I'd say he has a pretty decent chance of winning the case. Besides, he has a flying angel to carry him around everywhere as he needs it.)"To give a Law and Travel boost to Lyle so he can have a safe journey to Gem Dragon lands and then sue the crap out of them."$$$$
Price check on making a constellation dominant?
Not that I expect Lyle to see any success at all. I don't even think the Gem Dragons actually have lands, being dragons, instead of having a lot of separate lairs.
"Personally, if it passed I was considering making a species or two to live on them. Besides, our solar system is very barren. It should have more then a single planet, a sun, and an asteroid belt."
I see we have some new gods in our midst... Hello Taol and Neron! Enjoy your (hopefully permanent) stay!
Inspire some of the Ikan to make an expedition down to the surface. Or, at least, rather close to it.
"If you wish, I could speak with the Gem Council on your behalf.""That sounds like it'll get messy because they have a monopoly on everything and literally anything that happens means they lose that monopoly so they get less rich and then stuff happens and blah." :P "If you can convince them to stop monopolising everything then yeah, but anything else is a temporary measure."
)(it was an annual event, but more people want it, more will fall i guess.))(In that case I'll use my god powers to veto any Mystic Snow falls that don't happen when they're supposed to and I use my Human powers to help them through their addiction.)
Hey guys i still want the monstrous fauna so people need to vote more!
"Personally, if it passed I was considering making a species or two to live on them. Besides, our solar system is very barren. It should have more then a single planet, a sun, and an asteroid belt.""Well I never actually got to be a part of worldbuilding before.......OK!" :D
(And I doubt Lyle will win because there is no one source to lay a lawsuit on, all the gem dragons are likely to deny they owe anything anyway, he doesn't actually have a court to take the matter to, and so on. If he actually separated out all the ones that took money, got them to admit taking the money, got them to admit that they should show up at court over it, got them to actually show up at court about it, and had a court for them to show up at, maybe, but as is I doubt he'll get anything from even one dragon. No group suits for the dragons when they're all independent and you'll have to go after each of them individually.)(I'll answer the easy one first. The war is on Keshan, where the Staff is. It is also where Lyle is.
(And of course, his first issue will be proving that they are actually one of the dragons that took money, instead of one of the ones that didn't hear about it in time/was busy with something else/was too far away at the time/was otherwise distracted. And you know none of them are going to admit anything to someone who wants to take away their shinies.)
(Also, beyond that remember that each constellation only effects the word they are actually on, not both worlds. Which was it that had the war going on again? Because the Staff is only on World A.)
The Cim-derived concealment spells easily dissolve before Cim's efforts, revealing that they currently live under a Luminee town."The Light, if you might instruct your followers to surrender the Breaker Knights, or at the least to evacuate the town, that would be great."
Failed Sculptor: "I want to be able to create sculptures for royalty everywhere! But I have no idea how to start."
Epic Poet: "O Muse, the causes tell! What sacrilege, or vengeful sorrow, moved the heavenly..."
"I wish to know what heavenly colors there are that we lack! Alas, I am not a Luminee, seeing many colors where I see one."
Yaos: Jeffrey advises that you temper your message slightly. Many seem to feel they are not and can never be ambitious enough and think they may end up being flagged as heretics if they don't improve and cast out of their communities if they do.
(-2E for plot-relevance, subject to petition for reduction)
A skilled mechanic, a competent metallurgist, a talented alchemist, a talented engineer, and a competent mathematician walk into a bar. The bartender asks "What is this, some kind of joke?" They work together and hire a mage to protect their works. You end up having to calm them down a lot because the mathematician and the alchemist develop a fierce rivalry.
If the envoy enters Mountwyrm territory, they arre encouraged to turn back, but not hindered.Yaos: Jeffrey advises that you temper your message slightly. Many seem to feel they are not and can never be ambitious enough and think they may end up being flagged as heretics if they don't improve and cast out of their communities if they do."Thank you Jeffrey."Spoiler: Heresy? (click to show/hide)
Yaos clarifies that lack of ambition does not bring about the wrath of Yaos and that you don't need be at a specific level of ambition before you receive blessings from Yaos. Rather, the more ambitious you are, the more blessed you are, and the less ambitious, the less you are blessed. Having no ambition does not incur any penalty but it incurs no bonuses either. If you want to be really ambitious, do so and receive a large blessing. If you want to be only a little ambitious, do so and receive a small blessing. This applies to all facets of Yaosian worship (save for when true Heresy is involved, which is covered in the Book of Humans.)(-2E for plot-relevance, subject to petition for reduction)
A skilled mechanic, a competent metallurgist, a talented alchemist, a talented engineer, and a competent mathematician walk into a bar. The bartender asks "What is this, some kind of joke?" They work together and hire a mage to protect their works. You end up having to calm them down a lot because the mathematician and the alchemist develop a fierce rivalry.Spoiler: Issues (click to show/hide)
Another peace envoy is sent to the Gruen government. The terms present to prevent the war are simple: either the Gruen government or Grauel must denounce the practice of eating humans and make it illegal. That is the only request.
Star Elf: "Will my model for an elementally-based trap work for the land above our lands?"
"So the first is to make a plane of existence where we can send people to fight to the death""Maybe it would help solve some of the petty squabbles. I support."
"My second proposal is to use Proposal 18.01 to make 7 COLOSSAL Titans.""I fail to see the point to these. I oppose using Council Essence for these, unless you can find an use for them.[glow]"
"Ok so I have three proposals...""Er, what is the third one?"
Quote"I fail to see the point to these. I oppose using Council Essence for these, unless you can find an use for them.[glow]""Silly Cim! Do you not remember who proposed the proposal in the first place? Varee didn't propose his proposal for any use or purpose or point, he did it just because!"
"Most of the new proposals seem useless or just plain bad to use council essence for this. I oppose them."*sigh* "No, Artisanii. The DEATH BATTLE Plane proposal costs very little Essence for one god. I only made the proposal because if all gods chipped in then it would be free. The other proposals have already passed and we all already paid the Essence to pass them - we're just discussing on how to go about enacting them.
"Silly Cim! Do you not remember who proposed the proposal in the first place? Varee didn't propose his proposal for any use or purpose or point, he did it just because!""That does not mean the proposal can't be made useful. If we create them, we will eventually want to find a purpose for them, which will lead to it being either something we can all agree on, or us fighting over it for a long while without resolution. In the former case, we can think of the purpose before we do anything."
I [/size]propose[/color][/size] that we populate the world with [/color][/size]numerous gigantic carnivorous plants[/color][/size], underground vegetations, giant mythical beasts that roam the land and maybe a bronze colossuses or three. [/color][/size]Or just mythical creatures of gigantic proportion[/color]
Need some essence Fusil? I'll give you 2 essence to encourage a couple Armu to eat Gruen Spores. Deal?
Jeffrey advises that Yaos maintain strong trade throughout the war. This should increase favor with Azem and his creations and better the economy."This'll be a pain. No extra soldiers to guard trade routes and no inventions because Cim in his infinite wisdom has decided to ban patents becau- wait. He never actually banned them! He just didn't invent them! You're a genius Jeffrey! You are now Chief Executive Advisor to Yaos! Congratulations on your promotion, Jeffrey!"
"I wish the war would start already so that I can sell these rare medicines of dubious effectiveness."Granted.
"I wish we could just befriend the Gruen and stop the war from happening."
"I want to die in a volcano. That would be the best death ever!"
"By Yaos, I want to be the god of Escaping From InHumane Dungeons!"
"Grulems? How did golems manage to consume gruen spores? I don't remember making them with digestional tracts. Also, just how does hunger manifest in them, who need not eat?"Probably got stuck in their cracks or something.
"That is really, really wrong. I mean that is seriously wrong.""Grulems? How did golems manage to consume gruen spores? I don't remember making them with digestional tracts. Also, just how does hunger manifest in them, who need not eat?"Probably got stuck in their cracks or something.
The Emperor and Malik have sent out exploration parties. Although it is difficult to find rich places, they manage to find a few far in the frontier. It is unlikely that any settlements built there will be sufficiently close to the site of the war.They are all officially claimed by Mankind.
"A super farmhand!? What a lame dream! No way!"Instead show this person dreams of being a super villain not a super villein. Evil laugh, goatee, princess-kidnapping, doomsday devices, henchmen, loot, the works! Secretly, of course.
The Armu are perfect vessels for weapons, yet I have neglected to give them any means of creation of my sphere far above that of their peers. Even with their affinity to Cosmic magic, they can only do so much better than the other races. Weapons must be created, and it takes a master weapon maker to make master weapons.
As such, I will make the Seppo. A race that lives alongside the Armu, in their towns and cities as brothers under me, their father. Each will have incredible skill at the creation of arms, unsurpassed by the mortal races. Not only that, but each will be able to enchant their creations with extra effects, with their affinity for enchanting magics. The Armu will sell these weapons to the other races, spreading my sphere far and wide, reserving the best for their own use.
But what will be the best form for them? They need not the masses of tentacles to wield multiple weapons-perhaps just two hands fit for their work? No-they should have an affinity for what they are working with. They shal be blobs of a special metal, no different than flesh. Simple round blobs capable of jutting out pseudopod to do the work other races use limbs for. The forms are not fit for combat, not even against the other mortal races. But they will be perfect for smithing, with their false limbs designed specifically for the weapon. They will not even need tools to work- their own body will be capable of becoming any tool they may need. The metal will be silvery in color, to better reflect the heat of the forge they build inside of themselves. Yes, I will make 3 million of these, the addition to the Fusil Family.
(I hope that doesn't cost extra, it is already leaving me at one point....)
Azem creates seven gems of power each with it's own random magic attunment, and gifts them to the underkings/queens of the dwarves.(Oh so we're doing that? Ok then.)
Yaos creates 9 orbs of power and gives them to the emperors and kings of Slytha. They will augment their magic, charisma, their skill-at-arms, or whatever their primary attribute is, and compel them to commit acts of great Ambition. More (open) Yaos worship = MOAR POWAH(Ahem.)
Edit: (If the kings attempt to increase their power by having people worship Yaos, it'll work.)
Edit2: (Yaos doesn't go down and actually give the orbs to them, they just 'find' them while on hunting trips or in their garden or something. They're the size of golf balls and only the kings will notice them and pick them up.)
Yaos creates 9 orbs of power and gives them to the emperors and kings of Slytha. They will augment their magic, charisma, their skill-at-arms, or whatever their primary attribute is, and compel them to commit acts of great Ambition. More (open) Yaos worship = MOAR POWAH(Ahem.)
Edit: (If the kings attempt to increase their power by having people worship Yaos, it'll work.)
Edit2: (Yaos doesn't go down and actually give the orbs to them, they just 'find' them while on hunting trips or in their garden or something. They're the size of golf balls and only the kings will notice them and pick them up.)
Since it's the next day, Yaos has turned into her guy form.
"So can everyone vote on Proposal 24.00? Wouldn't want it just expire now would we? While we're on the subject of proposals I propose that we place both gas giants near the Slythan sun and put an Essence generator in between to give us Essence."
"Why out of the world would gravity generate essance? Essance is not a pure form of energy, and if it was surly we could find a better way of generating it. Especially if this somehow makes more than it takes away. We might as well build an ever-burning pile of coal and get essance from that. I am against this.""Gravity can generate Essence because magic and we're gods. You think you might've learned that by now. That ever-burning pile of coal isn't a bad idea though...... GM! Please put down a proposal for an ever-burning pile of coal under Fusil's name!"
"I can see the appeal of such a plane. 24.00 has my support. I reserve the right to run a betting ring.""Nice! I never thought of that before! But then again, I'm not the god of gambling, am I?"
"Gravity can generate Essence because magic and we're gods. You think you might've learned that by now. That ever-burning pile of coal isn't a bad idea though...... GM! Please put down a proposal for an ever-burning pile of coal under Fusil's name!"
"I can see the appeal of such a plane. 24.00 has my support. I reserve the right to run a betting ring."
(You could literally build it yourself for two essance points.)(I could, but I don't want to.)
"Generating essance lowers the value of essance, making it more and more worthless as we build more and more while our income from typical sources does not rise to meat the new inflated price for everything.""You're thinking of WU or worship quality or whatever it's called - not E. E is an objective unit of....stuff that doesn't lose value the more you have of it. Git lurned Fusol."
I go listen to some prayer from owner of gambling dens and gamblers.(That gives me an idea.)
Also, create 300 massive worm like creatures that would tunnel through earth or sand, leaving tunnels in their wake. They would feed upon metal ores and excrete pure metals.[/b][/color](They seem rather similar to the Burrowers Beneath. I wonder how they'll react to one another.)
Jeffrey advises that Yaos begin preparing an army, what with the start of the (either human or Gruen) invasion approaching rapidly.(I would but I'm still waiting on Special Units to be finished what with the whole Humanos, Paladin, and Saeva thing unless they're handled differently. They aren't naturally reproducing races so I don't know if Points are used in making them or merely Essence. I also don't know how many of each make a unit. I have 100 Paladins so does that make a unit? I have 1,000 Humanos Grande so does that make 10 units? Are these not going to be counted at all? It's ok if they're not; this is just a mini-game after all.)
Mighty King: "By my Ambition and my Orb, I pray that Yaos grant me this province!"Blessed.
Tome-Queen: "All secrets shall be unlocked with the help of Yaos, Prince of Drive."
Devoted Lord: "None of my people shall dare defy your will, O Yaos."
Terrific Warlady: "Yaos grant us victory this day! Charge! For the High Race!"
Immense Emperor: "Thanks to Yaos and my efforts, my family and I shall never starve."
Potent Sovereign: "We shall put down these rebelling villains. Yaos guarantees it."
Inquisitive Empress: "Grant me the vision to see their crimes, as you have done for all before."
The other two are currently in need of little.
(Artisanii: Could you rewrite that to clarify your intention? I'm a bit unsure about what it's supposed to mean.)
"You have one tick to say what are you and what did you do to Fusil before I seal you in an infinite labyrinth and throw said labyrinth into the core of our sun"Spoiler: Answers to Prayers (click to show/hide)
Most of the human populace would very likely mistake null and the inquisition/their own god if this specific poster was used. We are goods. We could just send a prophetic, increadibly believable dream to every mortal on both worlds.
Golden Underking: "Praise Azem! Praise the miners! May they continue to bring us much gold from the depths!"(*seethes with rage* I'm the one who bloody got them to dig deep in the first place! Graah!)
This update's dominant constellations are the Staff and Ship.(Finally!)
The aurora over Keshan glow bright red, and it is anomalously stormy. Visions of unseen horrors afflict the magically gifted."Umm, guys? This looks really important. The Keshan Aurora is supposed to be about the future and it looks way too stormy to simply be about the war." :(
"I am sick of our mortals falling under the influence of cults and such so easily! Perhaps, my brothers, there is something we can do to stop this. I propose we start a divine awareness campaign, warning people of the dangers of the void. We will distribute posters with clever slogans warning people of cults, have the playwrights perform public service announcements, and other public outcry against the void. Think of the children!""I'm going to Oppose this until you support Proposal 24.00 or until it gets passed. Why don't you just make some kind of god-powered anti-Void cannon? That would probably work better than some posters." X)
Most of the human populace would very likely mistake null and the inquisition/their own god if this specific poster was used. We are goods. We could just send a prophetic, increadibly believable dream to every mortal on both worlds."How would they mistake the poster for me or the Inquisition? Neither of us are very shadowy after all." (Keep in mind that the Inquisition is more like Men in Black (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_in_Black_(film)) rather than...well, the usual inquisitions. They're not secret police either, they're more like a combination of SWAT and the FBI. Their colours are red, yellow, and white when they're not doing undercover work.)
"And it isn't my fault the God of humans made his police force so sketchy, at the very least they might be goaded into behaving if they are constantly warned their god and his creepy inquisition are watching them.""Hey! I don't make the police forces, that's the job for the kings!" D:< "Oh, you mean the Inquisition? How are they creepy? They don't look creepy to me." :/
"How posters would be more permanent method than giving out info to every living person to signify it's importance?"
"Oh dear. I should probably warn Alprozem that a demon may come knocking on the temple door."
Fairy certain that something like a mesage from gods to every mortal delivered directly would be something you tell your kids abaut. And just who would keep printing and replacing the posters?
(I wouldn't worry about him. He has an angel protecting him. Imagine General Grievous with all his lightsabers. That's how powerful an angel is without any weapons, flight, magic, etc. Headcanonically, of course. The angel can also carry him around so travel time is pretty much a non-issue.)Spoiler: A warning to Lyle the Lawyer: (click to show/hide)
Who are ruled by ambition, which includes power no matter the source."Ruled by ambition? Guess who just happens to be ambition personified!" 8) "It's easier for me to give ambition, but I can also take it away. Besides that, saying that all Humans are so stupid as to destroy themselves just for a bit of power is a bit racist. Considering I'm the personification of Humanity, I'm a bit offended." >:(
"Ruled by ambition? Guess who just happens to be ambition personified!" 8) "It's easier for me to give ambition, but I can also take it away. Besides that, saying that all Humans are so stupid as to destroy themselves just for a bit of power is a bit racist. Considering I'm the personification of Humanity, I'm a bit offended." >:(
"Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever heard of any other species with Gruen cults. I wonder why that is?""That's actually a good point. It can't be for power because they can get just as good by worshipping me. It's a really good question."
"So far, the Humans are the only ones who we have found Void Cults for. His claim is not baseless. They did, after all, summon that strange being, killed off a bunch of themselves, and other cult related activities we should really be told about. You should do more to protect the people you are said to represent, their souls are in danger and you have done little to remedy this.""I have a theory that this cultist culture started from Gruen cult worshipping but I'm not sure. As for doing stuff, I'm listening to literally every magical Human's dreams for clues as to what's going on. You did take notice of how the Keshan aurora turned red and is giving magicians weird dreams, right? Maybe Anath is behind all this. Probably not, though, is my guess, but still! As for Void stuff, the Inquisition is doing its best to find Void cult stuff, but they're only on Keshan and they also have to deal with Gruen cultists."
"And you are voting against a measure that would help them for pure petty reasons, suggesting you like it this way.""So far, every single proposal I've proposed has been shot down. I just want ONE of my proposals to pass! Is that so bad?" :'(
Hello brothers, my name is Kujin! I happy to be born."Hiya Kujin!" :D "It's really nice to meet you." :)
"Great, welcome to the council. I suggest you start off by voting on the current rules, as I always seem to suggest.""Hey yeah, that's a good idea!" :D "One of the proposals is to make a plan where people can go and fight as much as they want and if they die they just go back to where they came from the way they were before." ^_^ "I really think you'll like that one. I can't imagine why Fusil, the resident war god, doesn't like it." :/ "I think he just has something against me."
24.00 Support This goes in my alignment very well! I love this idea!"Th-thanks!" *blush*
"Hey yeah, that's a good idea!" :D "One of the proposals is to make a plan where people can go and fight as much as they want and if they die they just go back to where they came from the way they were before." ^_^ "I really think you'll like that one. I can't imagine why Fusil, the resident war god, doesn't like it." :/ "I think he just has something against me."
Yaos starts to cry.Quote"Hey yeah, that's a good idea!" :D "One of the proposals is to make a plan where people can go and fight as much as they want and if they die they just go back to where they came from the way they were before." ^_^ "I really think you'll like that one. I can't imagine why Fusil, the resident war god, doesn't like it." :/ "I think he just has something against me."
"It is because you are a Fusil-darned cheapskate! You won't even spend two essence points on something as simple as this! It will only encourage you to do this more in the future, which I can not allow. In fact, the new guy could literally build it himself without feeling the sting of too much essence loss, especially if it aligns with his sphere."
(Oh dear.)(Indeed.)
(Oh dear.)
(This will get interesting when Yaos turns back into an old man...)(Please gods no!)
(Time to bring out the shipping chart?)(This will get interesting when Yaos turns back into an old man...)(Please gods no!)
(I have no idea, I'm the lowly new guy. :P)(Time to bring out the shipping chart?)(This will get interesting when Yaos turns back into an old man...)(Please gods no!)
(This will get interesting when Yaos turns back into an old man...)(Eh. Depending on how things go, she might not. Besides, he doesn't look that bad.)
(Time to bring out the shipping chart?)(Yes. Normally I'm not into this, but........ KujinxYaos Female FormxJoha confirmed.)
(*snrk snrk* Fusil and Yaos have a blooming hatecrush, it seems.)(Quick, who volunteers to be an auspistice?)
(This will get interesting when Yaos turns back into an old man...)(Eh. Depending on how things go, she might not. Besides, he doesn't look that bad.)Spoiler: Yaos' Old Man Form (click to show/hide)(Time to bring out the shipping chart?)(Yes. Normally I'm not into this, but........ KujinxYaos Female FormxJoha confirmed.)
( Ohhhh, I see your references now! The old man form looks like how DarkMatter animates it! And Jeffrey too! I love that guy!)(*wink*)
(Not me. I doubt I can really auspisticize without breaking my shiny (vinyl) record of Truthfulness.)(*snrk snrk* Fusil and Yaos have a blooming hatecrush, it seems.)(Quick, who volunteers to be an auspistice?)
(....What is an auspistice? Also, if Fusil wanted to date something, he would probably just make a pistol and secretly marry it.)(FusilxPistol confirmed. A quick google search tells me that an auspistice is basically a middle-man between two lovers, carrying love letters and such for them.)
(It's a person who mediates in a hatecrush to keep it from escalating.)
Gas giant moons: First 15 major moons are free.
I'll post the Groundfeatures list for the (early again) half-tick mini-update.
Anath eyes the essence that would be used to create the gas giants. "I propose the gas giants be very large (Jupiter-sized (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=144704.msg5743517#msg5743517)), and have thirty moons each.""Support."
The Ikan are irritated by an outsider intruding on their settlement yet again.(But it was Vaal who went up to him, and he's been on diplomatic missions to the Ikan before. Why would they be irritated at him?)
A builder has constructed a square room (insofar as the angles are all right) of thirty-six sides, which is, coincidentally, the sacred number of Pa'orrsnoghysnlnn. No Void influence has been detected from this project so far, but the commissioner has decided to use the space as a mausoleum instead.If the commissioner and/or the builder are human, the Inquisition is sent to investigate the house and the houses of the builder and commissioner.
The Archlawyer has gone to sue some gem dragons for taking payment for mercenary work and doing exactly as much as they would be expected to do. The first one visited is a topaz dragon who listens, nods every few minutes, and proceeds to pull out a stack of thick tomes on draconian lawmancy and begin reading various obscure precedents and increasingly strict codes for a few days without rest. She concludes that she herself was not commissioned for any kind of work or related to anyone who was to within three generations or matings and may therefore sue the Archlawyer instead for wasting her time. She notes that she is fairly inexperienced in lawmancy compared to other dragons but can easily tell when a potential suitor of a tiny race is trying to take her hard-earned hoard.Some Divination and Psymental mages are brought in to read the mind of the dragon to directly get to the truth of the matter.
(But it was Vaal who went up to him, and he's been on diplomatic missions to the Ikan before. Why would they be irritated at him?)
"I Oppose Proposal 28.00 until Proposal 24.00 has passed."
"And by not supporting it, it could be said that you're doing the same."Quote(But it was Vaal who went up to him, and he's been on diplomatic missions to the Ikan before. Why would they be irritated at him?)
"I Oppose Proposal 28.00 until Proposal 24.00 has passed."
"You are opposing such a vital proposal for such petty reasons? You are even more of a fool than I thought. Humans are the ones being harmed the most from this, you are risking the souls of your people for what amounts to half an essence point."
"And by not supporting it, it could be said that you're doing the same."
(Oh dear.)
(*snrk snrk* Fusil and Yaos have a blooming hatecrush, it seems.)(Catching up on the thread was interesting.)
Okaaayyy....Somehow Yaos is a guy....."I change forms every day. I'm god of all humans, not just the female ones."
Okaaayyy....Somehow Yaos is a guy.....
A flying monkey radiating divine energy has carried off Lyle and teleported away.
Divine library is a structure, and as such, somewhat under my influence. Make it so that anyone carying anything belonging to the library would be unable to leave it. Magic would fizzle, runners would be faced with unending labyrinth with all branches leading to nowhere. Trying to destroy a way through would result in more labyrinth being created and rubble falling on the offender.
Or not. There is only one among us who could be responsible for something that random"
Mountwyrm Hypermerchant: "Can you guide me on where I should go next, Lord Azem?""North."
Emerald Councilor: "How may we better serve you? We continue to have a monopoly, which leaves little room for greed."
Nautical Shipper: "I have commissioned a treasure fleet in your name, Lord Azem. May you bless our ventures."
Maybe he just hates lawyers that much?QuoteOr not. There is only one among us who could be responsible for something that random"
"Are you suggesting that the God of Randomness kidnapped the Arch lawyer with a magic fly monkey? For...For what arcane purpose?"
(Why doesn't it say that I'm opposing Proposal 28.00?)(You did say that you wouldn't support it unless people supported 24.00, so KP seemingly interpreted that as you opposing it)
"Hey Kujin, is it ok if you send someone down to teach the Inquisitors some non-lethal combat techniques? I'd have asked Fusil for non-lethal weapons but everyone knows how he thinks of me."
"Somehow, I don't think threatening people will make them support your proposals. Regardless, I support proposal 28."
"Considering your usual reaction to the merest hint of void influence, I thought the threat was implied."
Azem reads the dreams of his magical followers.
After attending the funerals, I have decided upon the cure for the dreams. I personally show the Seppo, local and global on both worlds, how to create a ceremonial knife that can drive off bad dreams. The Dreamciller. I make sure these are distributed to at-risk Armu, and authorize their sale to foreign lands. Make sure that they all have proper sheaths that don't fall when someone is sleeping on them.Pats Fusil's godly shoulder.
(Actually, I said that I wouldn't support 28.00 until either 24.00 passed or Fusil supported it.)Quote(Why doesn't it say that I'm opposing Proposal 28.00?)(You did say that you wouldn't support it unless people supported 24.00, so KP seemingly interpreted that as you opposing it)
"What? Do you think you could remedy that by taking your men away from my sphere? I would be happy to offer less-lethal weapons, and even have some blessed ones delivered from the Seppo to the human caravans. I would even be willing to help track down the Lost Lawyer."Hmmmm.........deal."
If, of course, you support Prop 28. Its your choice, if you are going to support the void there is no way I am going to help those under you."
I'm reluctant for several reasons. One, doing so goes almost directly against my sphere. Two, the conflict is one of my main sources of entertainment right now. I'd need a very good reason to tell the Gruen not to eat something and currently I just don't see one. If you really want to keep the Gruen away from humans so much though, feel free to point out something better for them to eat or create a new more readily available and filling food source for them. That would probably keep most of them too occupied to eat humans except for the ones that have a real taste for the flavor."What about Saeva? I could feed them the occasional Saeva. They're basically Humans but without the sapience. Would that be adequate?"
We really need to stop these void cults. Yaos if you need ay help from me just ask."Thank you, Neron. I guess I'm asking for help."
Yaos: Jeffrey advises that Yaos commission a dam upstream from a frequently flooding river.I have the Scientists of Yaos work on the plans for the dam.
Young Child: "I wish I could keep all my teeth! Then I'd be a scary monster! Roar!"Ignore.
Aged Weaver: "I shall become a champion of weaving. May Yaos bless me in my ambition."
Town Guard Commander: "We don't have enough volunteers for our town militia. Should I force the able to join?"
Unlucky Man: "I wish all this bad luck would stop. I guess I'll see if Yaos can do something about it."
They nonetheless produce a device for Vaal that can detect only whether Void influence is above or below CEB levels at a range of three meters/yards.Once the Scientists are done on the dam project, Vaal will give them the device so they can reverse-engineer it.
Both of the Yaosian planes have been strengthened (as much as they can be, given their colocation with other gods' planes in a Council dimension) against access or visibility.(I remember saying when I actually made them that I ripped off pieces of the Spirit World to create them. They should be independent of the other planes.)
"If I wanted to imply that I would TOTALLY SHOOT YAOS IN THE FACE, I would probably just say I AM TOTALLY GOING TO SHOOT YAOS IN THE FACE IF HE KEEPS GOING AGAINST ME. But since I didn't say I WILL TOTALLY SHOOT YAOS IN THE FACE, I must not have meant that I AM TOTALLY GOING TO SHOOT YAOS IN THE FACE!""
Died? Was it not enough for them to harass my citizens? They will pay. The void beyond this will be destroyed. I will tear it into billions of pieces, which will be devoured by gunfire and knives."Sure they will. Just like the last time you swore vengeance against...who was it again? Oh right. The BREAKER KNIGHTS, who I had to take care of all by my self."
For now, I attend the funerals of those who died while thinking of a way to prevent this in the future. They will pay, they will pay, they will pay....
After attending the funerals, I have decided upon the cure for the dreams. I personally show the Seppo, local and global on both worlds, how to create a ceremonial"Hahahahahaha! Oh that is hilarious! The god of weapons reduced to making a pillow! Oh man that is PRICELESS! *sigh* Shame about the Armu, though. They didn't deserve what happened to them."knifepillow that can drive off bad dreams. The Dreamkiller. I make sure these are distributed to at-risk Armu, and authorize their sale to foreign lands. Make sure that they all have proper sheaths that don't fall when someone is sleeping on them.
"Hmmmm.........deal."
"Sure they will. Just like the last time you swore vengeance against...who was it again? Oh right. The BREAKER KNIGHTS, who I had to take care of all by my self."
"Hahahahahaha! Oh that is hilarious! The god of weapons reduced to making a pillow! Oh man that is PRICELESS! *sigh* Shame about the Armu, though. They didn't deserve what happened to them."
"You heard that? GET OUT OF MY HEAD! GET OUT OF MY HEAD! Besides, I slaughtered most of the higher ups while you where taking care of the small fry. Don't you remember me telling you of their weakness?""Suuure you did, Fusil. Sure you did. What was it you told me? Don't use weapons against the weapon-breakers? I think I could've figured that out on my own." (I thought that was a public declaration of vengeance. Sorry for accidently reading your mind. :P)
"I do hope you haven't given your followers an intense hatred of reptiles or something Yaos. That would interfere with my plans."I take pride in the fact that my protected race is the most free-willed and independent of all the races. If they have an intense hatred of reptile it's because they'd developed it on their own."
The scientists have begun planning out a dam, considering the effects on fields and villages upstream from the site of the dam. There is currently some conflict resulting from some wanting to place the dam anyway and save those downstream completely and some not wanting any dam to avoid the responsibility of having displaced the upstream population.(Third option.)
Yaos: You agree to support the *Void Resistance and Organized Opposition Movement (*VROOM) in exchange for Fusil's help in finding the little lost lawyer. Tykki has found Lyle the little lost lawyer in what appears to be a crop circle near a human town. There are twisty symbols over his mouth and impossible shapes painted on his face, and his back is filled with the misspelled names of Void Beings. He reports that he was taken by a Void Messenger with a flowing face sent to corrupt him.I copy and paste his memories into mine. What could go wrong?
Oh my, what have I done! What a disaster."Eh. Cim practically did the same thing. Except that involved the hundred or so civilians burning to death rather than being quickly cut down.
"Strike Team Fusil is on the case. See what you have caused, Unarmed god? At least you never gave him a weapon, putting him down will be easy.""Wait Fusil, please! I beg you not to send the Strike Team! This is the perfect time for me to test the power of one of my new archangels and I don't think I'll get another chance until the DEATH BATTLE Plane is built!"
"By the way, if you ever need my services for something that is not Gruen related, feel free to ask. I did technically create the race you are a patron of after all.""Thanks Azem. I haven't forgotten. Actually, if you could tell me the locations of the Gem Dragon thieves that would be great, but I understand if you won't.
"Wait Fusil, please! I beg you not to send the Strike Team! This is the perfect time for me to test the power of one of my new archangels and I don't think I'll get another chance until the DEATH BATTLE Plane is built!"
"This here. This is why you petty gods must be kept out of the world. What shall you do, agents of the divines?"
"I am not here to kill anyone present. Only the mortal kill. I watch and I warn. My brother is, of course similarly freed of suffering now."Shrugs
"Yes, Sir." Tykki slices Buqurek with a single sweep of her blade.
"Have your creations no meaning to you tyrants? I am done here." The Hooded Deathly Lady vanishes.
That was anti-climatic. Wouldn't put it against anyone if they literally killed me now.
Why would they kill you? You were unfamiliar with the thought processes of free-willed mortals and can hardly be blamed for what happened.
Yaos: (Serac did not flood that system, and Serac's primary sphere is Oceans anyway.)(I mucked that up. I didn't mean to accuse Serac of flooding it, I just wanted him to stop the flooding because rivers have more to do with oceans than with humans or ambition.)
To clarify and get the monsters done withSupport
I purpose we create(let the GM creates) 4 Monster(Megabeasts in Df term) in each world.
<+5 (+0-+1)>(The hell is this supposed to mean?)
To search for bubbles, you will have to leave the Bubble. As time is broken outside, there is a high risk of paradoxing yourself (and dying). Are you sure you want to try?
"I suggest we just leave the girl alone. It's already proven that any time we try to do anything with her we fail, so why spend time, energy, and resources trying to do so?" :( "We could focus on literally anything else and get better results, because then we'd be getting any results at all."
"I didn't do anything to her and you know it, so please stop saying that I did. If you think you won't be fate-blocked if you try then go ahead, but I'm not helping. I don't really like her anyway. First she prays to me to help, then gets angry when I go down and try? She's just the most ungrateful, awful person I've ever met."
"I didn't do anything, Fusil. I'd love for you to provide examples with a direct cause-to-effect link, but I know you can't. In any case, I can try to force bringing her brother back to life, but it would probably require more Essence than I have. Maybe you want to help on that front, Fusil? Of course not, because why waste Essence on doing some good when you can just continue to harass me for not doing something that I am physically unable to do?"
"The father died fighting the Gruen because I declared war on them. That is true. I declared war on them because they were eating humans and both their god and government allowed and protected the practice.
The brother wasn't a target for assassination or even arrest, the Inquisition just went to retrieve an illegal artifact in his possession and he only died when he tried to kill the Inquisitors so he could keep it. It almost certainly wouldn't have brought his father back to life anyway.
As for dying from childbirth, I think you can blame Azem for that fact as well because he's the one that created my race in the first place and it's because of him that death by childbirth is even possible. I'd fix it myself but I'm unsure about the ethical implications of simply editing a sapient species unless it was absolutely necessary for the race's survival. I'd have brought her, the father, and the brother back to life but only if they went to the Human Plane, which they should have if it wasn't decreed that the soul spawn rate stay static and only allow for 5% of all souls to go to an afterlife.
Oh, and I'm sorry that I'm so against baby-killing. There really is no greater crime than that, is there?
I ask again, Fusil, will you help me bring the brother back to life? At the very least it should earn some goodwill with the girl. Maybe it can open communications between us and her."
"I'm ssorry, I was ressting. Did someone ssay my name?""Yeah, Fusil blamed me for allowing death by childbirth and then I mentioned that you created humans with that 'ability'."
"There is one thing. I desire to build a temple on Slytha, possibly in Human or Gruen lands.""Sure! I'll help with that. In exchange, you have to help me make ninjas."
EDIT: Since no one else has described the moons, I say that half of them are suitable for habitation by humans.
"That sounds almost as likely to backfire as your inquisition.""The Inquisition actually does a pretty decent job for the most part, it's just that their failures are more obvious than their constant stream of small successes. Even then, half of their failures can only be considered 'half-failures', really." :P
(Yaos totally stole my space program idea....of course, the Armu are far more suited for the uninhabited moons than humans are.)(Waddya gonna do? Sue her? Oh wait, you can't, because patent law hasn't been invented yet! XD /joke)
Yaos: The engineer has lately taken to muttering accusatorily to no one in particular and looking around suspiciously and has brought her husband (a cobbler) along to taste her food and drink for her. The device is very difficult to understand even with the gift of greater willpower and is very fragile, but the team has managed to construct a far less accurate version with fewer psymental and possibly eldritch tricks.All things considered, I'd say this was a success. We created a version of the device that's less insanity-inducing, most of the team is fine, the only one that can be described as not fine isn't really that insane, science advanced, and we still have the original device! The original device will be tested by Vaal to locate Void energies.
Humanity appears to need more art in general. Jeffrey suggests that you open some publicly accessible Museums.
Afterwards, she asks Jeffrey for advice in regards to things she did not already learn while down in the corporeal realm.Yaos turns male for a second (!) and smacks Jeffrey upside the head and promptly turns female again.
Yaos: Where will Vaal begin looking?Slums, secluded outdoors with bad reputations like haunted forests, catacombs, and the homes of the aristocrats.....and the bureaucrats.
Jeffrey rubs the recently hit area and notes that religious art is considered art just as much as secular art."I guess you have a point. You will remain Chief Executive Advisor of Yaos.
"Well that's an interesting contrast. Imagine, they fight and die in a war against the Gruen in one life, and they play with Gruen as children in the next."How much are people getting eaten? Is the number more or less than Keshan and by how much?
They roam the lands, disguised as regular travelers, acting as stage hands, performing street entertainment, shoplifting, and punishing mimes."See, Azem? They're already doing more good than bad!"
"What about clowns? They need to get the clowns too.""Eh. Mimes are worse. They're actually affiliated with the Void if I remember correctly."
Yaos: Vaal begins looking anywhere foreboding. So far, he has searched along a road leading out of the town where the device was produced through a poor area and has narrowed down hits from these sources:
- A burnt pastry at a bakery with a disturbing shape
- A person in robes of mourning wearing an odd necklace
- A patch of graffiti advertising an unintelligible name's collection of statues
You also commission art focusing on yourself, Azem, Joha, and Kujin. A Mischievous Urchin has placed a lewd drawing of the aforementioned gods at one of your temples and run off.(I forgot. Literal Genie on small things applies.)
Ritan Architect: "Do you have suggestions on how to construct a temple to you? We seem to be disagreeing about its general shape."Long and flowing lines like waves for the entryway, then a large clear dome with a shrine at the center.
Sorae Schemer: "Could you give us some floatstone? About five Mountwyrm galleys' worth?"What do you need that much float stone for?
Worried Human: "Some odd people have been drowning themselves a lot! Are you responsible for this?"No, that is not my doing.
(They're only a secret police if they're secret about it. Interrogations, search warrants, tailing, these are all things that today's police forces do all the time. The whole following thing might sound secret-police-ish but really, following that's done all the time as well to find more criminals. Moreover, we're dealing with an other-wordly menace that is driving people insane and mutating them, so harsh measures occasionally need to be taken. Honestly, they are NOT this serious when dealing with Gruen cults. The whole psy-mental interrogations might sound secret-policey to us, but this is a world where magic and mind-reading is common, so by their standards it's to be expected.)Spoiler (click to show/hide)
(That there is why everyone thinks that your Inquisition is a secret police.)
Ikan Elder: "Can you keep out all these foreign intruders? Their potential for corruption is very worrying."Not everything foreign has corruptive intents.
Life-Lab Mage: "Do you have any advice on what we should make next?"Hmm... how about this: a tree that grows only in right angles.
Thirsty Cactus: "Is it true what they say about a land covered in water? Can I go there?"Yes, yes you may.
"Anyone given some thought about why Humans have so many void cults?""If you had to ask me, it's because of their lack of alignment, but it could also be that only human cults are being discovered. Humanity has the Inquisition to find and deal with Void stuff, but what about the other races? It could be true that other races have the same amount or even higher amounts of cults but they simply haven't been discovered yet because there's no forces dedicated to finding them."
The mourner says that he stops mourning and singing eulogies for passing dead people if given sufficient payment. His necklace seems to have been a bribe from a rich family potentially involved in strange practices not to attend the funeral of one of their beloved parents. He says that Inquisitors who give the family trouble are often given valuable necklaces to keep them silent.The Paladins are sent in for PURGING. Vaal stays outside to keep an eye out. A single adult prisoner will be taken and be kept under guard by the ultra-devout Paladins and Vaal. Children are, of course, sent to interrogation and then re-education facilities where they will be kept separate from other children.
The graffiti remains illegible and is promptly destroyed. The area continues to trigger Vaal's Void detector, and the Inquisitors inquire everyone in the area about Void-related activities.A request is made to STF to sweep the area since the Inquisition obviously can't do the job themselves.
A request is made to STF to sweep the area since the Inquisition obviously can't do the job themselves.
"Evacuate it and I will have the area bombed. For now, I am going to have to track down these 'Mayflies'"(Exactly what is being bombed, GM? I'd like to know before I veto this action for blowing up an orphanage.)
Sorae Schemer: "Nothing much, just some experiments."Four galleys worth of floatstone for experiments? Granted. You must tell me what your results are.
Annoyed Mountwyrm: "I wish those scale-less, smelly monkeys would stay out of our land already.""Why do you dislike them so much?"
Mountwyrm Saleswizard: "Would you like to buy some of my godslayer replicas? Only 50 for 3!"
Peridot Dragon: "I heard there is actually a lawmancer going around and trying to take our hoards. Can you do something about it?"
"Could someone investigate that for me?"
Yaos: It turns out that the family is involved with funding a Void cult for the purpose of increasing membership in the Inquisition. They seem to have a history of making self-destructive decisions.Their property is confiscated, the adults are executed (after gaining the location and identities of cults, cultists, and corrupt Inquisitors of course), the children are sent to re-education facilities, the corrupt Inquisitors receive execution by angel (and Vaal), cults and cultists are hunted down the children sent to...you know what? I'm going to stop mentioning this. It'll always ALWAYS happen in the case of children, but I'll just stop explicitly mentioning it, but they get sent to re-education facilities. Now where was I? Ah yes, the adult cultists are executed and all Void items found are destroyed.
The building with the graffiti is an old wooden mill. It has since been used by various children and Void cults and children's Void cults as a hideout.Anyone who visits the mill will be captured, interrogated, and dealt with appropriately (children get re-educated, adults get executed). After about a week with no visitors, the mill is allowed to be destroyed by Strike Team Fusil.
Lyle has created a document on patent law! He gives it to an Inquisitor and explains that it depends heavily on them enforcing it with the threat of death.Lyle has obviously been corrupted by the Void. He is not executed, but he is kept under lock and key in a well-fortified fortress. The document is taken by the Inquisitor, he's told to disregard everything the archlawyer said, and Yaos inspects the document with a Gem Dragon.
Lyle has obviously been corrupted by the Void. He is not executed, but he is kept under lock and key in a well-fortified fortress. The document is taken by the Inquisitor, he's told to disregard everything the archlawyer said, and Yaos inspects the document with a Gem Dragon.
"We can't seem to put a dent in them. We get maybe two ticks of peace at most before something strange not related to Varee happens."
"..........So how are those non-lethal techniques working?""Rather well, actually. Mortality amongst child cultists has dropped to an all-time low (possibly zero), and every raid ends up with at least one capture. I thank you in earnest for your contribution. The fight against the Void is made easier thanks to you."
"Eh. Mimes are worse. They're actually affiliated with the Void if I remember correctly.""And they are not. Where do you think all those invisible walls come from?"
"I hereby withdraw my blessing of the Arch-Lawyer. I specifically protested against the creation of patents, and now you, Yaos, imprison him for being the victim of a crime. I will not sway from this decision.""He kind of said that anyone who breached a patent should be killed and he said this after possibly being corrupted by the Void and could still potentially hurt people or get people hurt. I'll check to see if he's been influenced and if he hasn't then he'll be set free. If not.....um...well I won't kill him. I actually don't know what I'd do. Keep him in holding until we can find out how to remove Void influence? We really need to figure this out."
"And they are not. Where do you think all those invisible walls come from?""..."
The more ambitious even make ice statues.Reward these Rani with improved ice-sculpting skills.
Mighty King of Conquest: "I have slaughtered thousands and I will slaughter thousands more! Praise be to Yaos, and glory to my kingdom!"That's interesting.
Tome-Queen of Secrets: "The secrets of life and death shall be mine at any cost."
Devoted Lord of Persuasion: "No one is able to resist worshiping you any more, Great Yaos!"
Terrific Warlady of Battle: "If my spinning axe can cleave an armored man in one sweep, it is by your blessing."
Immense Emperor of Roundness: "I continue to amass an empire! Look at [records expunged to preserve the gods' sanity]"
Potent Sovereign of Order: "There are no more cultists or unbelievers in our lands. By our sacrifices we have achieved total victory."
Inquisitive Empress of Questions: "I have started an Inquisition, Yaos. We have caught and executed hundreds of cultists."
Strong Actor of Weights: "I can now lift a hollow sculpture of a boulder made of wood above my head!"
Repentant Heretic of Knives: "I thank you, Yaos, for opening my eyes to my true talents and guiding them to where they must go."
"What about Saeva? I could feed them the occasional Saeva. They're basically Humans but without the sapience. Would that be adequate?"
@Grauel: "Shall we form a temporary truce until all these Void cults are dealt with?"
I can't see why not. To clarify, I'm not even really encouraging the Gruen to eat Humans right now; I just don't feel like telling them not to eat something. If you try that and the Gruen like it enough to stop eating humans, then I'm perfectly fine with that.An offer is made to Gruen governments. If they declare the eating of sapient Humans illegal, then the war will end and Saeva (essentially non-sentient Humans) will be given for them to eat instead. This offer is given directly to the governments - rather than through Grauel - because he has decided to abstain from making the decision.
Assuming you're willing lay back on eradicating human, gruen and hybrid cults, then sure."I'm....not....what? I'm only eradicating Gruen cults - cults that worship Gruen, allow themselves to be eaten, and sacrifice other humans to be eaten. I've never heard of any cults where they worship Humans or Hybrids. All such cults which result in the deaths of Humans and operate within Human lands will continue to be eradicated BUT I will not send any armies into Gruen lands."
(I find myself wondering if someone is going to go full circle with my subconscious/accidental reference and make three artifacts to give to the Elves.)
(Well, if the trio of puzzle boxes were all explored by elves...)(Yaos creates the One Crown of Power....)
Oh, am I mistaken? I thought you eradicated cults that eat humans as well as those that just just worship Gruen. Admittedly the lines may be a little blurred but I figured it was worth bringing up the distinction because essentially Gruen worship tends to lead to becoming a hybrid and lots of hybrids are at least partially under my domain."If they want to become hybrids that's their choice and I won't interfere. I would even theoretically allow them to be eaten if they consented, but cults tend to spread and so more and more people would allow themselves to be killed and eaten and so it basically becomes murder by extension/association. Look at it this way: suicide is legal, but helping or convincing someone to commit suicide is not. Oh and could you support Proposal 24.00 please? We could theoretically teleport our armies there to duke it out and settle wars without any bloodshed whatsoever. Or we could just use it for fun if you want a full war. It's very flexible like that."
Lette has decided to fire an energy blast at the dusty mill after the miller has left, which proceeds to explode and damage surrounding buildings and to seriously injure 6 nearby people.
However way she wants! Fire, explosions, throwing a boulder at it, tearing it apart with her bare hands....any way she wants! Just so long as no one gets hurt.(I'll let it slide because no one was killed.)
Yeah, I feel like I don't really care about most proposals being made but I guess I have enough essence to spare. I'll support.
"It only cost the God of Man two essence before getting half the gods on his side. There was no reason he could not purchase it himself...""I could either pay 2 Essence for the DEATH BATTLE Plane, or everyone (including me) could pay 0. That's the reason. Now unless you plan to never use the plane yourself, I suggest you just be grateful if you're not going to help."
"I could either pay 2 Essence for the DEATH BATTLE Plane, or everyone (including me) could pay 0. That's the reason. Now unless you plan to never use the plane yourself, I suggest you just be grateful if you're not going to help."
"I do not plan to use it myself. Wasting energy, bullets and time for what amounts to nothing? Not to mention essence? You could have gotten everyone together to do something useful, but choose to spend that influence making a play pen""It could be used to prevent wa.....wasting what now? Bullets? The hell are those? But anyway, the plane could be used to prevent wars. Armies could be teleported inside and have them fight it out. Because of the properties of the plane, any who die in it are automatically transported to where they came in the manner that they were in when they entered the DEATH BATTLE Plane. Battles can be fought without (permanent) death, land and buildings will remain unscathed, and most importantly: no civilian deaths."
"It could be used to prevent wa.....wasting what now? Bullets? The hell are those? But anyway, the plane could be used to prevent wars. Armies could be teleported inside and have them fight it out. Because of the properties of the plane, any who die in it are automatically transported to where they came in the manner that they were in when they entered the DEATH BATTLE Plane. Battles can be fought without (permanent) death, land and buildings will remain unscathed, and most importantly: no civilian deaths."
Fecund Underqueen: "Can you teach me or my cooks some more expensive recipes?""I shall teach you what exotic foods were served during the time of festivals."
"DEATH BATTLE Plane. Battles can be fought without (permanent) death, land and buildings will remain unscathed, and most importantly: no civilian deaths."
Grauel: This iteration of the feast has brought a dozen priests and a much larger bowl. The priests place the bowl before the *Throne of Hunger and watch in silence. The people of the town watch outside a fence erected to preserve the holy site.Grauel sets down upon the throne and eats the feast. Upon completing his meal he waits patiently, eyeing those around, to see if any requests would be made by those present.
The name is kind of ironic considering the lack of actual death isn't it?"Well they do die, it's just not a permanent death. Also, because the neither you nor the Gruen governments have accepted the treaty, it's gonna be war. Sorry." (To be honest I think the GM
"I oppose P30.00. This would make proposals a matter of who votes first. The time it takes for a proposal to stagnate is longer than it takes for a god to go to stasis, after all. However, the system could indeed use improvement, for that I propose any votes uncast when a proposal would stagnate are counted as abstains, thus resolving the proposal. This has a similar effect to Yaos' proposal, turning the technique of not voting to stagnate the proposal into a mere filibuster, but still leaving everyone with the chance to vote."Support
The people thank their gods in times of plenty, and curse them in times of loss. As I have said, sometimes a sin is unfortunately necessary. Perhaps one day such a system would be redundant, but today is not that day. Again, self-interest is not evil; it is when it comes at the expense of others and could be avoided that it is wrong. Selflessness encourages cooperation and benefits many, while selfishness causes splintering and factions to form. Selfishness and self-interest are not the same. Self-interest can encourage cooperation, as the God of Greed could also likely tell you. Selfishness can only breed strife.
I did not fully define it because I thought it best to do so with the aid of all the gods. You may presume my actions to be selfish because they will as a consequence aid me in my goals, but my goals are themselves meant for the benefit of all, or at the least the many. Someday, I can hope that a God of Goodness will be unnecessary. Until then, I must work to bring it about, regardless of those who might oppose for the sake of their own benefit.
If you wish to assist in the delineation of the rewards and punishment for such a system, by all means make your proposal. But first, I must ask, on what ground would you believe selflessness, actions that benefit others, to be evil? I can think of few, primarily concerning if those people were being aided to do evil, or if the action helps some at the expense of others. Perhaps I am simply not creative enough, though.
I must ask, though, why the god of Humans goes to war with that of Hunger, if the humans are making their own, informed decision to be consumed? Their souls are not harmed by the process, and while I would object to the practice if the humans were not themselves volunteering for the process, I can see little reason to restrict the free will of the Gruen if they are behaving in a manner not unduly harmful to others.
-everything else-"Welcome to the Council!" :D "It's nice to see that at least some gods take an interest in morality. I kinda have to oppose the proposal, though. It'll probably cost a lot of Essence and I already made a system where good people get eternal paradise when they die." ((Here (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=144651.msg5758187;topicseen#msg5758187) is the book that explains it.)) That should be enough to make people do good and if it's not, well, that's their choice. Messing with natural laws seems like it would almost certainly go bad.
Might I ask, Azem, why you oppose the joining of Cim to such a theoretical council? I had envisioned the appointments of Cim, Varee, Kli, and yourself to such a committee."Because he got mad at Fusil so he started a terrorist organisation that burned a hundred people to death. I think that's why they don't want him in it. I'm indifferent, really."
"That is indeed the reason. I honestly expected you to care more Yaos.""That he got mad at Fusil so he started a terrorist organisation that burned a hundred people to death? I did care; it took a lot of effort to shut them down. But every god makes mistakes - myself included - and Cim helped me to find the remaining Breaker Knights and put them down for good. My indifference was actually his joining the theoretical council of morality. I just don't care if he joins or not."
Is this the normal method of operation for the gods? I fear I will find little aid if such is the case."Yes, unfortunately. Most gods here (myself not included ;)) are really into the status quo. My suggestion is to just make people do as much good as possible rather than make a system to do it for you, no offence to you or your suggestion."
Create race of beings, named Seraphim. Appearance is of awe-inspiring humanoids, intuitive understanding of magic, excellent reasoning capabilities, very gifted with magic, particularly ritual magic, have the ability to look into people's hearts and see their true nature, large wings allow them to fly, and are strong, tall, and have a powerful sense of morality and justice.(You're making mortal angels? Cool. As for the afterlife, you can either make your own afterlife-capable dimension for 6E or you can take a share in the Spirit World for about 1-2E. Those are the prices if I remember correctly.)
Also establish an afterlife, in rudimentary form for the moment. It shall be defined more at a later time.
Yaos creates the sword Zephemural and attunes it to Vaal so he can use its full potential immediately. She does all this while doing *smug face* at Fusil for creating more artifact weapons than him (the angels not-withstanding).
"Woo hoo! Yeah! Now who wants to pit their angels against mine? Wanna finally settle our rivalry, Fusil? We can finally see whether the Angel-Emperor of Mankind can defeat Tykki, Angel of Arms! This is going to be so much FUN!"
"Why do you look so smug? I have made multiple artifact weapons in secret. Strike Team Fusil in particular is equipped with multiple, I just don't publicly brag about the capabilities of my weapons, considering the fact secrecy makes them more powerful.""Silly Fusil! Secrecy doesn't make weapons more powerful! Calling out your attacks does! Silly Fusil!"
"What rivarly do you speak of? I thought I had made it clear that Tykki does not have to go fighting pointless fights in your false fight field. Tykki would easily win, but I am not about to push her towards any arena.""Sure, Fusil. Suuuuure."
"Sure, Fusil. Suuuuure."
"Silly Fusil! Secrecy doesn't make weapons more powerful! Calling out your attacks does! Silly Fusil!"
I've seen Strike Team Fusil in action. Can I know what weapons they have?/What weapons have I seen them use?
Yaos, is this what you wanted?"Of course not! I just wanted them to get rich and praise me for it! I wasn't even around when you guys made the world so how could I have put these things down there? Maybe it's the Void?"
Who knows how many there are. Perhaps endless...
"Of course not! I just wanted them to get rich and praise me for it! I wasn't even around when you guys made the world so how could I have put these things down there? Maybe it's the Void?"
It was a never ending need to dig deeper you gave them... It might have just been delayed. In any case, I will check it out.Yaos, is this what you wanted?"Of course not! I just wanted them to get rich and praise me for it! I wasn't even around when you guys made the world so how could I have put these things down there? Maybe it's the Void?"
Who knows how many there are. Perhaps endless...
(Although the armor is practically indestructible, only nothing is completely indestructible.)
Nuparhi should go hunting then.Keep the monsters from spreading as much as you can, and more importantly save as many lives as possible. If you use your energy drain bubbles, you can keep fighting for far longer then anyone else. Good luck.
And I will look at the ones I have trapped to try and see what they are doing here. Are they intelligent at all?
Yaos, if it isn't you... Varee. This sounds like something he might do.
What void friends? I have no void friends.Yaos, if it isn't you... Varee. This sounds like something he might do."Varee has been AWOL for a while...But you just got back. Did your Void friends order you to build all this? They came at the exact same time you did. The same time as the God of Goodness as well, though I suppose he has less a reason to summon a horde of monsters."
What void friends? I have no void friends.
Are you saying I would have a reason to summon a horde of monsters?
Also, I came back a while ago.
"Are you still telling that 'messenger' lie? I know you consorted with Void Things, building a temple at the bottom of the ocean in return for some essence. It has been hinted that they stick around after making a deal, meaning that you are still buddy buddy with them!"I haven't had contact with them since two ticks after I made the temple. The only one I talked with was Talls, and you guys scared him off.
"How do you people even get this info? First Artisanii and now Serac?""I wear this blindfold for a reason."
I haven't had contact with them since two ticks after I made the temple. The only one I talked with was Talls, and you guys scared him off.
"How do you people even get this info? First Artisanii and now Serac?"The library. Where else?
You tried and failed to destroy the temple? Really I had wondered why it hadn't been dealt with by you before. That's quite enlightening. Care to tell us exactly what happened? That information is probably useful to us all for better understanding what the outsiders are capable of.
You tried and failed to destroy the temple? Really I had wondered why it hadn't been dealt with by you before. That's quite enlightening. Care to tell us exactly what happened? That information is probably useful to us all for better understanding what the outsiders are capable of.He cut my whale in half and dropped a bomb on it. It didn't work.
He cut my whale in half and dropped a bomb on it. It didn't work."A whale? That's not a very good guardian. A swarm of giant sharks might've been better if you ask me."
-snip-"What about we move it? It shouldn't be too hard. We just explode the ground around it, get some angels to pick it up, and fly it off into space!" :D "If that doesn't work we could just use More Dakka."
Tykki figured out that it is likely the temple can only be destroyed by one of the ones who made it.Three essence.
He is a magic whale...He cut my whale in half and dropped a bomb on it. It didn't work."A whale? That's not a very good guardian. A swarm of giant sharks might've been better if you ask me."
"What about we move it? It shouldn't be too hard. We just explode the ground around it, get some angels to pick it up, and fly it off into space!" :D "If that doesn't work we could just use More Dakka."
He cut my whale in half and dropped a bomb on it. It didn't work.
Levitas(?) the whale is there to keep anything dangerous from coming out unnoticed.
He got better. :PQuoteHe cut my whale in half and dropped a bomb on it. It didn't work."There was a giant whale near a known void temple. I have a right to assume that it is hostile."
Levitas(?) the whale is there to keep anything dangerous from coming out unnoticed.
"Well why not a swarm of magic giant sharks?"He is a magic whale...He cut my whale in half and dropped a bomb on it. It didn't work."A whale? That's not a very good guardian. A swarm of giant sharks might've been better if you ask me."
"The hand of the weapon god itself could not dent the temple, more attempts would be a waste of time that could be spent actually stopping it.""Well what if we all put in a bit of Essence into a giant energy cannon and then we were like 'SUPREME ULTRA DIVINE ANNIHILATOR BLAST!" and then we'd be like *BOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!* and we'd fire it and it would just disappear in a huge explosion because it's awesome! You think that'll work?"
"Perhaps you could ask about things before trying to murder them?" Anath suggests about the current whale discussion.
And it would cost me three essence to destroy the temple completely.
"Well what if we all put in a bit of Essence into a giant energy cannon and then we were like 'SUPREME ULTRA DIVINE ANNIHILATOR BLAST!" and then we'd be like *BOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!* and we'd fire it and it would just disappear in a huge explosion because it's awesome! You think that'll work?"
Besides, isn't anyone else impressed with the fact Tykki can cut a whale in half with a single blow? I had known it would come back, but it gone long enough for me to investigate the temple fully, and she managed to do it without getting noticed."[/color]False, I noticed when my whale got cut in half. He didn't notice, but I did.
Why would I? It doesn't seem to be doing any harm...QuoteAnd it would cost me three essence to destroy the temple completely."Why in the world have you not done so already?"
False, I noticed when my whale got cut in half. He didn't notice, but I did.
Who else would it be but you? I knew it was you, I just didn't care. I mean, bombs? That is totally you.QuoteFalse, I noticed when my whale got cut in half. He didn't notice, but I did."But you didn't know who did it, correct? That was the important part."
Who else would it be but you? I knew it was you, I just didn't care. I mean, bombs? That is totally you.
But I have nothing to do with the monsters, why would killing me stop them?QuoteWho else would it be but you? I knew it was you, I just didn't care. I mean, bombs? That is totally you."Great. Now destroy that temple or I will raze everything you hold dear, then stab you to death and hope that your blood erases it. Maybe it will stop the monsters."
"Unless we're going with SUDA, I propose that Serac has to destroy the temple or else be SUDA'd by the other gods."
"Tykki being the strongest creation""Soon..."
"Tykki being the strongest creation"Actually, I think Nuparhi might be able to beat Tykki in a fight. I mean, brute strength isn't everything...
"I propose that Serac has to destroy the temple or else be SUDA'd by the other gods."
"Everyone else: do we have any captured monsters that my scientists can use as target practice?"You can always create random monster for your science experiment, I am sure it wont take much of your essence pool.
"Everyone else: do we have any captured monsters that my scientists can use as target practice?""I can capture as many as you'd like. I'll help under the condition that you'll share all research you make of it."
"Hey Fusil, can you give the Paladins some weapons that'll be useful against the monsters?"
But I have nothing to do with the monsters, why would killing me stop them?
How about a deal? You give me one essence (I don't like threats) create an interesting weapon for Angela and prove that the void is evil, and I will destroy the temple.
??? I had nothing to do with these creatures. I don't know why you think I do...Quote"Hey Fusil, can you give the Paladins some weapons that'll be useful against the monsters?""I do not know what will effect them fully. They may be immune to fire due to coming from the Water God, though that does not help me decide their weakness. For now, just arm them with whatever mortal weaponry they can get their hands on, they are not immune to blade or bolt."
??? I had nothing to do with these creatures. I don't know why you think I do...
"Who else has a reason to summon a random army of monsters?""I think your question answers itself."
I did suggest it was Varee earlier. Was it not him who suggested we create monsters to make the world more dangerous?"Who else has a reason to summon a random army of monsters?""I think your question answers itself."
"You think I will reward you for dealing with the demons? You are lucky that I don't cut you down regardless. But you know what? I think I will give your Angel a weapon. All of them, I am generous after all. Maybe multiple. I hope they are a good catch..."Is that a threat? Fine, don't make weapons. Jut prove that it is in my best interest to destroy the temple. Prove that the void beings are evil.
Is that a threat? Fine, don't make weapons. Jut prove that it is in my best interest to destroy the temple. Prove that the void beings are evil."They mutate people, kill people, wreak havoc with manifestations, drive people insane, get people to stop worshipping us (breaking Anath's Code of Conduct in the process), break laws against Void cults, and they kidnap innocent archlawyers to corrupt them and draw tattoos on them without their consent."
"Destruction is a necessary part of all existance, and is therefore an aspect of the Light."???That sounds like a confession...
"They mutate people, kill people, wreak havoc with manifestations, drive people insane, get people to stop worshipping us (breaking Anath's Code of Conduct in the process), break laws against Void cults, and they kidnap innocent archlawyers to corrupt them and draw tattoos on them without their consent."Do they? The cultists are exercising their free will to worship who they want... And most of those are caused by the cultists not the void beings themselves.
Do they? The cultists are exercising their free will to worship who they want... And most of those are caused by the cultists not the void beings themselves."MOST of those deaths. MOST. Some are still caused by the Beings themselves, and who knows how many of that MOST is ordered by the Beings? Moreover, just because it's not happening in your cities doesn't mean it's not happening elsewhere. At the very least it's passing through Human lands and it's doing a lot of damage. Maybe it's not passing through your followers because they're aligned to you? Or maybe it's because you're apparently on such good terms with the Void? In the case of the latter option it means that they are trying to conquer those who do not align with them, and that goes against Anath's Code.
And in my own cities these are all false. All of those things are not happening to my worshipers.
Grauel goes to eat a couple of the monsters; noting how they taste and if they provide any interesting essence.Yaos goes down and eats some of the monsters that've been immobilised and wounded by his angels (assuming Grauel's experiment succeeds). The rest are double-tapped and sent to the Scientists for !!SCIENCE!!
Name: N'emy
Function: Prophet of Jelly Rolls
Alignment: Luminant
Age/Caste/Tier: Grand Capital: Mesal
Tendency: Dynamic
Description: N'emy, the Prophet of Jelly Rolls, is a notoriously untrustworthy Thing. Many of Its deals harm Its clients directly or indirectly. However, despite Its poor reputation for bad deals, It has never actually lied, and It often takes advantage of desperate gods to advance Its goals.
*snip*Well, the cultists in my realm still worship me... The reason they don't still worship you is because you kill them. How many have you killed by removing the cults?
Serac has destroyed the Slythan Void temple. There is no significant change in the number of monsters appearing. Nuparhi has been healed back, and says that the attacker was a winged metal monster of a vaguely humanoid shape.Do you believe me now? It had nothing to do with me.
Do you believe me now? It had nothing to do with me.
And nice job attacking an ally during a war...
Or it was Varee who summoned the demons, or it was the person who made a deal with the jelly roll prophet, the one who was actually making deals with the void beings? ???QuoteDo you believe me now? It had nothing to do with me.It is obvious those new symbols have something to do with the temple's destruction not working, it is possible that you ordered them to create new symbols when those in the temple where destroyed. Maybe they will leave if we destroy all the new symbols now?"
And nice job attacking an ally during a war...
Or it was Varee who summoned the demons, or it was the person who made a deal with the jelly roll prophet, the one who was actually making deals with the void beings? ???
The demons have been tested to have nothing to do with the void, were they not? I don't see why you are so sure they are void aligned. ::)
And you can look at my essence count, I have been doing no secret projects. Nuparhi was fighting on your side against them, I don't know why you attacked him.
(Double-tap: Say you kill a zombie and it's lying on the floor. To make sure it's dead you double-tap it; hitting or shooting it in the head again just to be sure.)
Their blood isn't the problem Yaos. I don't think most of them even have blood... It's the murdered civilians that are bleeding."So we need to evacuate everyone as far away as possible from these monsters. Maybe we can put some Essence together to mass-teleport them? As for the fireproof stuff, I'd say they're more fire-resistant, and I wasn't talking about fire-sword hot - I was talking about Sun hot."
And they are fireproof, a hot sword wouldn't do much.
(That is not what double tap means at all. Basically a double tap is pulling the trigger twice instead of once, helping your accuracy. There is a Wikipedia page on it...)(I'm using the Zombieland definition.)
-snip-(Angels can fly and heal by default.)
"I suggest you look for the young engineer who was touched by the Light and infused by Fusil who has created a bundled-light tower. A hot beam of light is shot from this construction and could probably be improved furtherly."The Scientists of Yaos are given visions of this tower. They have orders to miniaturise it and to ask for any materials they need.
Cactus man: "The vast water isn't very potable. Can you do something about it?"Use rainwater.
The Scientists of Yaos are given visions of this tower. They have orders to miniaturise it and to ask for any materials they need.
(I don't believe the Scientists fall under the location of the rainfall.)QuoteThe Scientists of Yaos are given visions of this tower. They have orders to miniaturise it and to ask for any materials they need.
"That tower works on the power of the sun. With the eternal rainfall, it is useless."
"Speaking of weapons, we should start arming the people in the surrounding area. Quick earthwork trenches with armed men on the other side can at the very least slow the enemy down, even if those men are not properly trained. I would be willing to have STF guide caravans full of Seppo-made weaponry to any town willing to take them in and use them against the creatures.""I can't go with that, Fusil. Humans are no match for these and they end up just being ingredients used to summon more monsters. I've mobilised most of my non-human army against the monsters."
I don't think I saw any requests for Void advice. Repost?
Yaos asks Jeffrey for advice in dealing with Void cults.
"I can't go with that, Fusil. Humans are no match for these and they end up just being ingredients used to summon more monsters. I've mobilised most of my non-human army against the monsters."
"Or I could evacuate them. Or mass-teleport them away if I had help from other gods."
"To where? Unless we can stop the beasts where they are, they will only continue to spread to other towns. You can only run so far, and it will mean nothing if they follow you. Besides, mundane evacuations would be easier under armed escort.""For mundane evacuations the aim is just to get them as far away as possible from the monsters. At the least it should slow the increase in the amount of monsters since they'll need to take time to chase them down. I agree that it's easier under armed escort and that's why I have trained soldiers to do it, rather than rabble with weapons like you propose.
Crurcul the Destroying Light: "O Fusil, Lord of Weapons! What may I do to earn a weapon from your heavenly forge?"
Fusil: Crurcul the Destroying Light: "We Luminee can produce hybrids with any race. Surely nothing would please the god of Weapons more than a race of pole-arm-Luminee hybrids?"
Kujin has been struck down!
Send Angela to search for any survivors and teleport them somewhere safe, since Nuparhi is currently taking some time off to rest.
Serac: What angels?Angela, the angel helping with the cultists...
Fusil! I would ask that you supply the Seraphim with weapons so that they might assist in combating these demons, and I would request further your aid in their learning the art of warfare. It would assist us both, I believe, and I can see no ill to be had from cooperation.
(It seems no one has commented on the death notification..)
"Who keeps stealing the essence of the sleeping gods? I feel that if I do not seal every slumbering deity the second it happens, they will be devoured by whatever being keeps doing this. It is likely the same person who created the monsters..."(Fusil did. I noticed but figured discussing it would be about as effective as it was before when someone was struck down.)
"I will send a Seppo-Armu caravan to the nearest Seraphim village, then. STF will guard the caravan to insure that it is not overtaken by beasts, though if any attack I will have to evacuate my men the Armu should be able to train them a bit before leaving.'You have my thanks....was anyone able to glean information about the god of Martial Arts' death beyond the fact that they died? I am ill at ease with the notion of a being using a god's essence for evil purposes.
There is a slight shudder throughout the Bubble, but the feeling soon passes.
Do you want to bet they killed the god of martial arts as part of their deal?QuoteThere is a slight shudder throughout the Bubble, but the feeling soon passes."Like I said, whoever made a deal with the Null of Jellyrolls should fess up. We will protect you if you do, it will give me a chance to fight off some of the void. That probably means the killer is after you...."
Duondio: 3/M/Imperial capital, born from a family of professional beggars (I really need to change my random profession generator)(This is perfect.)
Kujin has been struck down!
Azem: Alprozem: "Not as such, no."
(T..i...m...e... i...s... r...u...n...n...i...n...g.. v...e...r...y... s...l...o...w...l...y...)(Oh are you waiting for all the monsters to be dealt with or something?)
Go snack some more on the monsters and various deceased.
This isn't so bad.
Psymental magic is subtly used to manipulate the family into agreeing.*Glares* You could let them choose for themselves instead of manipulating them. Do you even care about free will?
Serac: What will you investigate first?Does he have a body?
"Careful, they might effect your mind as they had your servants..."I attribute that to the Gruen's ability to evolve based off of what they eat. I don't think the monsters inherently have mind altering abilities upon being eaten. The fact that only Gruen and not the Lords of Hunger were affected seems to support my hypothesis. That said, if the God of Hunger were to get food poisoning, it would be hilarious and almost worth it.
Alprozem: "Ye gods!(Hehe (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TitleDrop).)
(I was tired. I forgot that I have ethics in this game.)Psymental magic is subtly used to manipulate the family into agreeing.*Glares* You could let them choose for themselves instead of manipulating them. Do you even care about free will?
Azem reminds Alprozem that the underqueen and her followers are all either enjoying their chosen paradise or have reincarnated to Slytha.Yaos interferes.
"When reincarnation happens every memory and facet of personality and identity that that being had is lost. Only their raw soul is left which is nigh indistinguishable from every other soul of its race. Everything you liked about those people is effectively dead forever, as are they. I'll take my leave now."
(I was tired. I forgot that I have ethics in this game.)
(You created a system that took a soul and stripped it down to the bare essentials, killing its personality and memories in the process, and recycling it like was some scrap piece of garbage. All I did was inform him of how the system worked. And yet I'm the unethical one.)Quote"When reincarnation happens every memory and facet of personality and identity that that being had is lost. Only their raw soul is left which is nigh indistinguishable from every other soul of its race. Everything you liked about those people is effectively dead forever, as are they. I'll take my leave now."Quote(I was tired. I forgot that I have ethics in this game.)
(Choose one, jerk)
(I'm not sure about the supporters of the cyclic reincarnation plan, but so far, I've interpreted it as basically having some initial values set, so to speak, on birth on the other world.)(Oh wow lawyers are gonna have fun with that! 'You see, your Honour, my client is innocent because he was genetically predisposed FROM BIRTH to kill people! Obviously it's the gods' faults for the murder of that family of five, not my client!')
"I think he objected to me possibly lying by omission.""I'm actually trying to start a revolution against the current system (row row fight the powah!) of 'soul reincarnation' - which is more like 'soul recycling' to me - which I find to be unethical and morally upsetting. But yeah I guess what you said also applies."
I'm skeptical. There wasn't any serious ommission because what Yaos said is untrue. Individual souls are not indistinguishable. Having made a creation that takes advantage of just such a part of the reincarnation system, Yaos should know as much. Memories may be lost after reincarnation but they are far from losing their uniqueness. Furthermore, the very fact that souls can go to an afterlife while retaining memories and personality puts strain on the argument Yaos made."First, I'll respond by saying that while souls do keep everything when they go to an afterlife, they then proceed to lose everything once they leave said afterlife and reincarnate, or if they don't go to an afterlife at all and just reincarnate. That's why I had to specify that souls that go to the Human Plane stay there forever."
If souls were completely undifferentiated from one another after death, would your little reincarnating angel work Yaos? Again, I'm highly skeptical given what I see.
Every other personality trait is generated normally.But normally is not completely random. Normally they carry over from their previous life...
"If we're going to have this conversation, at least show yourselves to my poor prophet."(I thought it was implied that I kinda reappeared once it became a conversation, rather than the mic drop moment it was initially intended to be.)
"First, I said 'normally' instead of 'randomly' on purpose. Secondly, your first sentence is true. Thirdly, your second sentence is false because no, they don't."QuoteEvery other personality trait is generated normally.But normally is not completely random. Normally they carry over from their previous life...
"Fusil, it seems that my war golems are rather slow at killing. Mind improving that, for this battle at least?"
"I immagine that the golems are slowing down due to cooling down. It is raining after all. Hammers would be rather redundant as war golems are built with weaponised limbs, I was thinking something along the lines of enchanting what they have. Mabye something that would sa heat from their oponents?"
I actually don't have any army in the area. All Gruen present are actually just civilians. It just so happens that Gruen civilians are pretty combat effective already."That is a technicality. May I organize them for combat, or would you like to evacuate them, or what?"
(What do all those symbols mean again? The & is monsters right?)
Spoiler: Monsters (click to show/hide)
(What do all those symbols mean again? The & is monsters right?)Yes.
(We don't know. Some Underqueen was having a party when monsters started flooding out from the fortress' mines in the hundreds. One of the gods sealed the entrance so they don't come from there any more but they draw symbols in the blood of those they've killed to summon more monsters. Void levels on the monsters are nill so we suspect that a god did it, possibly Varee because the monster attack was rather random. It wasn't Yaos' fault because the Underqueen refused to take his/her advice to dig deeper and she doesn't make non-human beings.)(Where did these monsters come from??)Spoiler: Votes (click to show/hide)
It wasn't Yaos' fault because the Underqueen refused to take his/her advice to dig deeper and she doesn't make non-human beings.
(Joha: No one seems to know where they came from. They don't even really teleport.)
(They were only in the Underking's fortress. Such an organisation never took hold in the Underqueen's.)QuoteIt wasn't Yaos' fault because the Underqueen refused to take his/her advice to dig deeper and she doesn't make non-human beings.(Of course, Yaos did make a group of miners for the soul purpose of digging deeper, despite the queens requests...)
(Presumably to slow down angel support and allow his monsters to kill more people. Assuming he created the monsters, of course.)Quote(Joha: No one seems to know where they came from. They don't even really teleport.)(...Then why did Cim bother putting up an anti-teleportation field?)
One of the more powerful demons has torn a wide opening in the wall!
Kill the offending deamon and use it's soul to strenghten the wall. Empower my angels for this task to work faster and make wall more durable. (1 essense each)
(Dark white? Don't you mean gray?)(Light black? Don't you mean grey?)
(Would somone remember to light my golems on fire?)(How? Lighting them up with grenades would damage them, getting man-sized flamethrowers to heat them up means sending in Humans who will die quickly, and getting Humanos-sized flamethrowers to heat them up would mean a lot of time and resources spent up-sizing the current flamethrowers. I'd send the Duondio (I really need a better name for it) but he's a three year old and he doesn't use Greek Fire, just regular fire.)
(How? Lighting them up with grenades would damage them, getting man-sized flamethrowers to heat them up means sending in Humans who will die quickly, and getting Humanos-sized flamethrowers to heat them up would mean a lot of time and resources spent up-sizing the current flamethrowers. I'd send the Duondio (I really need a better name for it) but he's a three year old and he doesn't use Greek Fire, just regular fire.)
Neron has received the following prayers:
"Would that this world were covered in ice!"
"What sort of magic does ice help the most?"
"I wish the world weren't so hot. Then I'd be able to wander south comfortably."
"By the power of Neron Frost-Scale, I create a small area of perpetual cold!"
(I wish were covered in ice?)
There is an deeply disturbing presence somewhere in the Bubble.
The monstrosity roars out yellowish blue streamers. Vartija attempts to hold the dragon in stasis, but the massive dragon seems mostly unaffected."Silly Cim! Don't you realise that
"Silly Cim! Don't you realise that this is a scripted event and we just have to roll with it it's way to powerful for a mere archangel? I propose that we use the SUPREME ULTRA DIVINE ANNIHILATOR on it! It's basically a giant Essence cannon that we fire. Maybe we should make it powerful enough to blow up a solar system, just in case anything less than that isn't enough. Would that amount of dakka please Fusil?"
"Wave motion guns are a heresy. If you want to spend essence to stop it, give me some for a second nuke.""Maybe you should change your sphere to 'Conventional Weapons' instead? Obviously you're too racist against some types of weapons to be a true God of Weapons." >:( "Just to spite you, I'm going to eventually create a warhammer that can morph into a wave motion gun, and it'll eventually develop into a weapon spirit! How do you like that you conventional supremacist!" >:)
You catch a view of two ██████████ with a large book, ██████████████████ jelly rolls spilling everywhere, and █████████████████. Do you want to continue looking for suspicious activities?
"Maybe you should change your sphere to 'Conventional Weapons' instead? Obviously you're too racist against some types of weapons to be a true God of Weapons." >:( "Just to spite you, I'm going to eventually create a warhammer that can morph into a wave motion gun, and it'll eventually develop into a weapon spirit! How do you like that you conventional supremacist!" >:)
No, these are fine. Two what?
Take them to lockdown in the prison, and grab the book.
"If I had to guess, "Children", "lunch boxes", "Homework". Look before you leap. And get back to helping with the thats-not-a-moon"What? If it is lunch boxes, what would be suspicious about that? And I could just take them home. Give them some cupcakes while I'm at it. Field trip with the gods, right?
Serac has locked away the weird ones. The large book is filled with unspeakable drawings of fell deeds.Ask Angela to interogate those two "weird ones".
The two weird ones flush with embarrassment and look down at their toes.Okay, what were you doing here? Be honest.
"Do it and I will nuke you. And wait a second, how do you not know what a bullet is but have full knowlage of energy weapons? Anyway, I am kind of in a major fight right now. Shoot-it or shut-it."[/color]Lette fires a single beam at the thing. Now that it's been shot, Yaos is free to not shut it because she has - through Lette - shot it. "Knowlage? I don't have any knowlage of energy weapons. What is this knowlage you speak of? It sounds
"I was just wishing that the entire world would be covered in ice!"
"I shall finally be able to make a large ice sculpture. The first will be of you in a majestic pose! Could you appear in person when the sculptor arrives?"
"Tykki has confirmed that this monster is made of void energies. Knocking it out of our bubble would do nothing, it has already found its way in.""Negative. It is confirmed that this monster is at least partially Essence, and even if it wasn't, the Void is dangerous even for its denizens without careful manipulation. Sending it on an uncertain trajectory will tear it apart in the broken spacetime."
"Negative. It is confirmed that this monster is at least partially Essence, and even if it wasn't, the Void is dangerous even for its denizens without careful manipulation. Sending it on an uncertain trajectory will tear it apart in the broken spacetime."
"Yes, by utilizing proposal 33.00. The question is, are any of you with me in this plan? Because I am definitely going to pay the Essence cost of creating a new Bubble alone, however small it would be.""Nope. I don't trust Voidmancers."
Alright... not to sound crazy... but if the Void can create really powerful monsters like this, why don't we trap this one and use massive amounts of essence from all of us to turn it into a council aligned weapon of sorts. We can then use it for defense next time something like this happens."Too risky. We don't know enough about the Void to do that and I don't think I want to have a Void thing sitting next to me on the Council."
Since Yaos has no useful input in the matter she goes ahead and creates a weapon with the intention of having it reverse-engineered by her Scientists and mass-producing it for the Paladins. She then turns to Fusil and says, "Deal with it." 8)
As god of weapons, I then take the only model you made and teleport it to the Hooded Girl who wants you dead. Obey my sphere, peasant.(Damn it. I meant to say that I patent the weapon not create it. That's why I said that the intention was to give it to the Scientists. If I'd already made it I would've just given it to them, rather than simply intend to do so.)
(Yaos: Would you like to pay 2E to prototype that?)No thanks, but I do officially patent it.
"Now that I think of it, does anyone take issue with me borrowing some of the sealed god's essence for this attack?"vetovetovetovetovetovetovetoveto
"He will be arriving as soon as I reach the spot. Can you guess who he is?"
Eh, forget you all, I'll do it myself. I want to try and get that thing as a weapon regardless of the risk.
Fusil deemed me responsible, even though I mentioned how hypocritical that is, and sent his angels to slaughter my innocents.
To this, I set up a prison and captured Tykki to prevent further harm from being done, but due to GM error spacetime distortion Fusil got to know the exact details of the capture.
"Fusil, you've also antagonized the Void. I do agree that we should keep them away, for this Bubble is ours, not theirs, but your methods for doing so are wrong. Destroying their servants with extreme prejudice wastes a lot of potential. We could learn to understand them, and use this understanding for either war or peace. Have you touched the Void? I have, and noted its danger, but also its mutability; with enough Essence, a new Bubble could be created or it could be safely traversed to anywhere, even other Bubbles. Have you seen the Nulls in their physical forms? I have seen eight, know the names of five and have talked with two of them. Despite their immense, eldritch forms and nigh-unpronounceable names, they are much like us in their morals, working for their own spheres as we do. We should seek further knowledge before lashing out in fear of the unknown."
"Fusil, you also seem to have the mindset of ”if it ain't broke, don't fix it.” ”Might makes Right,” while technically not a broken system, seeds too much conflict in its very nature.
”You threaten other Gods if they don't agree with you or if you suspect them of having done something. Coercion, while sometimes effective, is almost always inferior to persuasion, for a persuaded ally won't defect even if they later gain power to trump yours. And let me tell you, with a bit of persuasion, anyone's power can surpass anyone's if they get the Council on their side."
”In short, you really need to change your attitude if you want to collaborate with me in the future. You are simply too volatile and chaotic to trust. This is not a declaration of war.”
"*Yawns* Did I miss anything? I feel like I missed something important...""Fusil just declared war on Cim and he admitted to trying to kill him for a long time. I think we should take Fusil to trial since that breaks Part Two of Anath's Code of Conduct: 'Thou Shall Not Seek the Death of Another God.'"
"Fusil just declared war on Cim and he admitted to trying to kill him for a long time. I think we should take Fusil to trial since that breaks Part Two of Anath's Code of Conduct: 'Thou Shall Not Seek the Death of Another God.'"
"Oh. Again?""Again? I don't remember Fusil actively trying to kill a god before."
"I have been waiting to kill him, which is different than trying. Besides, Tykki is a lawmancer, the most powerful and well armed in this bubble. The only other lawyer is insane and in prison. Certainly, you remember the Breaker Knights?""Tykki is irrelevant. This is God Law and non-gods have no place in it. Seeking someone's death can be interpreted as both actively trying to kill a god or simply planning to do so. Now that you declared war and declared your intent to kill Cim you have broken the Code of Conduct and thus, Council Rules. I do remember the Breaker Knights, but that was legal under Council Rules (illegal under other laws) and he helped bring them down."
"Again? I don't remember Fusil actively trying to kill a god before."
"Tykki is irrelevant. This is God Law and non-gods have no place in it. Seeking someone's death can be interpreted as both actively trying to kill a god or simply planning to do so. Now that you declared war and declared your intent to kill Cim you have broken the Code of Conduct and thus, Council Rules. I do remember the Breaker Knights, but that was legal under Council Rules (illegal under other laws) and he helped bring them down."
"I propose that we seal Fusil away for 3 Ticks as punishment for intent to kill another god - the most serious crime one god can do to another."
So, what were those two weird ones doing?"One of those weird ones declared war on the other weird one and said that he'd been looking to kill that weird one for a long time and now he's going to actively try to do it. Both looking to kill someone and trying to kill someone are against Council Rules so I made a proposal that will seal that weird one for a few Ticks."
"I oppose, of course.""I petition to the God Master that as this is a special proposal that Fusil be exempt from the voting pool."
"If we're going to do anything, then I suggest we seal away both of them. For their own safety and the safety of others of course.""Cim hasn't broken any Council Rules though...."
"I petition to the God Master that as this is a special proposal that Fusil be exempt from the voting pool."
Azem sighs."I support your proposal to imprison Cim. Now please, support mine to imprison Fusil, old friend. Oh and could you not call me a young god? I'm older than a bunch of gods here and besides that I've been around for more than 20 Ticks. Just a request."
"You seem to be missing one fundamental point young god. I don't care. I dislike both of them, and I will settle for only one of two things, either they are both gone, or they continue to balance each other out."
"Absolutely nothing will get in my way between here and there.""Hypothetically speaking, if I made an archangel specifically designed to kill other archangels, would that at least hinder you temporarily? Hypothetically, of course."
I'm confused. That book has absolutely nothing to do with killing the essence dragon. Besides which, no one gets to kill my new pet.I was looking for books about essence monsters and I found this book. I'm assuming the next few chapters will have more about essence beings.
"....This is getting out of hand. I support imprisoning Fusil for the time being, as well as Yaos's proposal on inbreeding.""I would've preferred if you called it my proposal against inbreeding. Someone without context might be alarmed by the way you put it."
"Ah? Myself and Tykki? Surly, you know that will be the death of me. At least with Tykki moving, I will not have my essence absorbed under my forced slumber. Oppose, naturally"Why?
Why?
And you were just saying you were going to murder Cim... Are you saying you are worth more then him?
He is Cimscum? :PQuoteWhy?"Much more. Cim is scum that must be erased, surly you all see that."
And you were just saying you were going to murder Cim... Are you saying you are worth more then him?
But why?
Because he visited the void creatures? I still do not have adequate information to make a judgement about them...
You say you researched them, but you still have not shared the results of that research. Surely it would be best to share that information, would it not?
I have no special love for Cim, but I dislike your arrogance and anger. And your "Might is right, so I'm always right" philosophy.
34.03.2 support(I personally don't know what's clearer than us both saying 'both gods'. But whatever.)
That's actually what I meant. Sorry for the lack of clarity.
34.03.2 support
That's actually what I meant. Sorry for the lack of clarity.
(You guys might want to change your votes on 34.03.1 to Abstains, just in case the GM thinks you still support it.)34.03.2 support(I personally don't know what's clearer than us both saying 'both gods'. But whatever.)
That's actually what I meant. Sorry for the lack of clarity.
34.03.2 support
"I would like to propose a system for Lawmode. A trial will end after a maximum of 2 full Ticks has passed (from integer to another) at which point the votes are tallied up for and against each other and proposals are passed based solely on whether a proposal has more support than opposition."
"Conflicting proposals that both manage to pass are decided based on which one has more support vs opposition and if that's equal as well it shall be decided by the next person who votes. I'd say it would be decided by a coin flip but Varee has too much power over that particular area."
"I oppose. Do you really think that will work? Why would that work better than the current system? And do you really think somebody's fate should be left up to a coin toss? At least assume they are innocent if it is even.""I do not think that it should be left to a coin toss - I specifically said that instead of that, it's based on whoever manages to get the next vote in. Moreover, just because a single proposal is tied doesn't mean the god gets to go free, unless that proposal was to decide whether to let the god go free or not. For example, if the proposal to have your angels guard you fails, you will not be set free."
(Grauel: Local copy of trial proposals updated, not sure how so many votes were miscounted when they were listed in the paragraph text part)(It happens. I never bolded the original proposal I made so that might have made some part of it confusing.)
Propose that Fusil gets imprisoned for 6 Ticks for attempted murder of a god instead of 3 Ticks for intent to murder a god.
"Strike Team Fusil just tried to assassinate Cim! They NEED to be imprisoned! They cannot simply be bound to protect Fusil!"
You are diging a grave for yourself Fusil. If you continue this, Cim will likely push to have your team sealed for his safety, which would open you for attack.
Propose that Fusil gets imprisoned for 6 Ticks for attempted murder of a god instead of 3 Ticks for intent to murder a god.I support this.
Your strike team, however, is under your control. You are the one making the decisions and giving the orders, even if not publicly. As such, you are breaching council law by seeking the death of another god.Quote"Strike Team Fusil just tried to assassinate Cim! They NEED to be imprisoned! They cannot simply be bound to protect Fusil!"
"Oh and why not? I am not the one who attacked them. There is nothing, to my knowlage, prevent non-god beings from attempting to kill gods to some success."
Your strike team, however, is under your control. You are the one making the decisions and giving the orders, even if not publicly. As such, you are breaching council law by seeking the death of another god.
Then you are therefore guilty of standing by while one of your subordinates breaks the law - under your influence to do so, no less.
If a human tried to kill you Fusil, what would you do? Let them walk away unpunished?
What if you found out I ordered that human to assassinate you? Would you not take action?
Regardless of who is to blame for the assassination attempt, you have still openly expressed a desire to kill Cim, which violates the same law.
In the context of death and destruction, "seek" generally means "to try to bring about".
Can we just lock up Fusil already?
Does everyone truly care enough for Cim to try and stop me?You said you were going to kill him, and it was not an empty threat. I am willing to work to defend Cim from you. I prefer Cim to you.
You have access to the books, those that where not stolen, find out for yourself. I am afraid that will have to go for our hungry friend, too. "All of the void books were stolen. Every single one.
You said you were going to kill him, and it was not an empty threat. I am willing to work to defend Cim from you. I prefer Cim to you.
All of the void books were stolen. Every single one.
Your flagrant abuse of semantics and wording in an effort to get your way, and the fact that Cim is, regardless of any guilt by association you seem to think is just enough cause to warrant his death, a god of Law and Order, means I am compelled to prevent you from doing such a heinous thing as this.
Or to put it another way; I believe it has become exceedingly clear that we mean to stop you in this endeavour. Your innocence is no more clear at this point than Cim's, Fusil. The truth will be found, and the appropriate judgment meted out accordingly. But you will not desecrate the sanctity and trust of this council by shattering it's laws on a whim.
"Do you know what 'guilty until proven innocent' is?
I am going to kill you, Cim. This is a deceleration of personal war between us. I can no longer allow you to live."You argue that you are not trying to kill him while saying you are going to kill him? You are guilty, you admired it yourself here. Stop saying you are not.
And you have never done the same? Besides the fact that he assisted in trying to repent for what he had done wrong? And you view this as justification for murder yourself? Where is your proof, then? Where is your proof that he means us ruin? Leaving aside your mere assumption that they are demons and corrupt anything they touch.
Your guilt is possible precisely because of your flagrant disregard for law, peace, and the authority of this council. I do not believe you would be stopped by a law, if that was all it was. I do believe that you can be stopped by the combined might of this Council, however, and that you will be if you continue to disrespect and disregard the system that aids in preventing anarchy from breaking out. No, Fusil, you will be stopped, and you will be shown your place; that of an equal, not a superior. Or perhaps less, if you continue to act in a fashion unbefitting to your station.
You argue that you are not trying to kill him while saying you are going to kill him? You are guilty, you admired it yourself here. Stop saying you are not.
And without laws and morals, there would be nothing stopping me from just throwing you out into the void right now.
((When was he killing your followers? Can you quote something? I don't remember that. :-\))
I'd rather not kill them. Also leaving them with one essence would make it easier to kill them for whomever's going around doing that but I guess if they only had one essence, it would also take away the essence gain from killing them and maybe remove the motive.Is it not just as easy to drain someone at full essence as it would be at one? It has not stopped them from dying so far anyways.
If you think you have the power to face six gods arrayed against you, you are sorely mistaken. If you kill me simply to show off your power, you will be destroyed, and I will be a martyr. Have you any idea what martyrdom is, and does, within my domain? The power it has? No, that was a foolish question, apologies. You obviously have no idea what Good is.
Laws exist for far more than obstruction; they serve as guidelines and ethics of behaviour that keep a society from falling apart. As you can clearly see, your attempt to defy them is indeed damaging the cooperation of the gods; the divine society.
For the moment, I will leave aside your obvious misunderstanding of the term 'racist'. You say no one has a motive besides Cim. But what does Cim have to gain by summoning Demons? You, on the other hand, have admitted to wishing to kill him for a great time now; and these incidents serve as your excuse, do they not? Hmmm...
Finally, besides the other god's Archangels, my own Archangel, and my own divine power, nothing is stopping Tykki.
(Ok so I finished reading everything. Why is Kujin alive? I thought he was struck down. If he's alive I need to know so that I can get some RP done.)
"Fool, I know what a mortar is, and it is in my domain! I can easily explode one such as you with it. Do you even know what good is? As you are defending an unrepentant mass murderer just for the sake of him calling himself 'lawful.". There may be six gods here, but there are seven members of strike team Fusil. I will do my best to slay evil like that of Cim, which is far more good than anything you have done."??? He said Martyr, not Mortar... And I doubt you could explode a god with one.
(http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=144651.msg5803240#msg5803240)Quote(Ok so I finished reading everything. Why is Kujin alive? I thought he was struck down. If he's alive I need to know so that I can get some RP done.)(He...Isn't?)
In this case, I am advocating for him to be sealed away as well, so that we might learn the truth. I am opposing you, as you are acting in a manner opposed to everything that I stand for.QuoteIf you think you have the power to face six gods arrayed against you, you are sorely mistaken. If you kill me simply to show off your power, you will be destroyed, and I will be a martyr. Have you any idea what martyrdom is, and does, within my domain? The power it has? No, that was a foolish question, apologies. You obviously have no idea what Good is.
"Fool, I know what a mortar is, and it is in my domain! I can easily explode one such as you with it. Do you even know what good is? As you are defending an unrepentant mass murderer just for the sake of him calling himself 'lawful.". There may be six gods here, but there are seven members of strike team Fusil. I will do my best to slay evil like that of Cim, which is far more good than anything you have done."
Hah! Right makes might, where Good is concerned. And you are simply wrong, besides....Palatino was overwhelmed by numbers and raw power because it is meant to support others, and is not primarily concerned with combat; but rather with protection. Which it can accomplish well enough. This leaving aside all the archangels and combined might of half a dozen gods or more, as the others take notice of this.QuoteFinally, besides the other god's Archangels, my own Archangel, and my own divine power, nothing is stopping Tykki.
"Tykki and I are stronger than all of you combined, with our combined skills and excellent teamwork. Tykki has already taken on two archangels in a head- on fight with the help of STF, while your own archangel was beaten up by a mindless demon. As for your divine power, you are quite lacking in essence. If you go down any further, it would be simple for Tykki and I to seal you away."
In this case, I am advocating for him to be sealed away as well, so that we might learn the truth. I am opposing you, as you are acting in a manner opposed to everything that I stand for.
Hah! Right makes might, where Good is concerned. And you are simply wrong, besides....Palatino was overwhelmed by numbers and raw power because it is meant to support others, and is not primarily concerned with combat; but rather with protection. Which it can accomplish well enough. This leaving aside all the archangels and combined might of half a dozen gods or more, as the others take notice of this.
"This is a lie. You were about to murder the Prophet with a dagger you bragged would destroy his soul. I whisked him away and we negotiated our truce, speaking of which..."
"You broke this truce when you attacked Vartija. You're not worth your word, it seems."
"Even a liar speaks with his own voice. The Null tell me what they want me to believe, but from that I learn what they want me to believe. The books told you what their writers wanted you to believe, so how is this any different? My experiments with the Void I did myself, without any help from any party. But no, I did not summon the monsters. In fact, that is also what all the Null say, so someone somewhere is lying, or there is a third party unaccounted for."
"Now you defend yourself with the same argument I did, you hypocrite, except you're lying. Vartija cannot be harmed without aid from a God. You directly gave the order and joined the attack, unless it was some another, which I doubt. With the Breaker Knights, I never gave them a single order or any help."
"Absolutely nothing? How about the Void? I have very much enough Essence to throw STF into the seething chaos of creation and destruction. Or how about the Council? Or even both. I have the tools to destroy you, but doing so would be in violation of the Council. If this goes on, I will end you the proper way."
Bah. Your arguments rely upon wordplay in a single language, rather than actual facts or logic. You shall be locked away until we can decipher the truth of the matter, regardless.
Fusil, you are responsible using your own arguments. By the laws, you will be imprisoned. You might not agree with them, but the rest of us will still hold you to them.Quote"Placed on my shoulders, as if I was responsible? Yes, that is what I would do. But how am I responsible for what my free-willed creations do?""You just threatened to control your creations to attack me. If my son robs a man, he is a criminal. If I order him to rob a man and he obeys, we are both criminals.
"So you admit to dealing with the Void? You will soon join them, I am sure. I have faught the void before, and the council isn't about to get in my way. I will kill you, the council and the void be darned."He was talking about the other void, the emptyness between worlds.
Fusil, you are responsible using your own arguments. By the laws, you will be imprisoned. You might not agree with them, but the rest of us will still hold you to them.
You pointed her to him, and then helped her.QuoteFusil, you are responsible using your own arguments. By the laws, you will be imprisoned. You might not agree with them, but the rest of us will still hold you to them."I didn't order Tykki to attack Cim. I just pointed her in his direction. Turns out she happens to hate many of the same people I do."
"Because the books have nothing to gain from lying. The others are long dead, likely. The Void, however, has everything to gain from getting you to believe the same way they do. The fact that you did these 'experiments' with the Void alone is more suspicious, not less. At the very least you should have someone watching to make sure you don't actually make deals with them. The Null say you didn't summon the monsters for them, so you must have. These are lying demons. Do all those suicide cults mean nothing to you? Do you think the books where lying about what happened to the others?"
N'emy, the Prophet of Jelly Rolls, is a notoriously untrustworthy Thing. Many of Its deals harm Its clients directly or indirectly. However, despite Its poor reputation for bad deals, It has never actually lied, and It often takes advantage of desperate gods to advance Its goals.None of us know what the books say but you. I personally think you might be lying about them...
Tykki brought the entire shelf, I made them all waterproof, and we went back down to examine the runes.
Putting all that aside, the demons are more or less gone now right? So the Gruen - Human conflict should resume now, no?"Slowly there are less and less demons that inhabit the world but they still remain. With the recent tensions we may want to keep my Emperor and your Devourer on hand in case STF "accidentally" attacks someone else."
I didn't miss any actions, did I? I'm a bit in a hurry for the next one and a half hours or so.(I asked Jeffrey for advice in increasing worship quality.)
On another note, what are we going to do with sleeping gods? I propose that gods who have gone inactive have their essence drained into a pool for use in council projects.Oppose. "Sleeping gods should be left alone and protected. They should not be used as firewood. It is more than disrespectful it is Evil."
We could leave them at one essence if the thought of killing gods is abhorrent to you, but they are unlikely to ever awaken again...
"Fool, I know what a mortar is, and it is in my domain!""What's a mortar? Could you tell me before you get locked away for 3 Ticks? It sounds like it'll be useful for my armies."
You pointed her to him, and then helped her.
So, "You should kill Cim. I will even help you do it" kind of thing?
Then you are an accomplice to attempted murder. You are still a criminal.
None of us know what the books say but you. I personally think you might be lying about them...
And they all went missing... Suspicious. You were the one who said Tykki and you took the entire shelf, right? Right?
"Slowly there are less and less demons that inhabit the world but they still remain. With the recent tensions we may want to keep my Emperor and your Devourer on hand in case STF "accidentally" attacks someone else."
"What's a mortar? Could you tell me before you get locked away for 3 Ticks? It sounds like it'll be useful for my armies."
((This is meaning the inactive players...))On another note, what are we going to do with sleeping gods? I propose that gods who have gone inactive have their essence drained into a pool for use in council projects.Oppose. "Sleeping gods should be left alone and protected. They should not be used as firewood. It is more than disrespectful it is Evil."
We could leave them at one essence if the thought of killing gods is abhorrent to you, but they are unlikely to ever awaken again...
"So you admit to dealing with the Void? You will soon join them, I am sure. I have faught the void before, and the council isn't about to get in my way. I will kill you, the council and the void be darned.""I was talking about the Void between Bubbles, not the Null, the beings that reside there. It is pure chaos, but manipulable enough to be traversed at a high cost of Essence. As the God of Order, manipulating it comes naturally."
"HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE ME OF KILLING KUJIN! HE. WAS. MY. FRIEND! Moreover, I am arguing for the sealing of gods - like you did with Honour and Artisanii. The last thing I want is for more gods to die!"
??? Trials require evidence to work. And I'm surprised you want to go the "legal" route, considering you said you detest all laws with a burning passion.
"I propose that we seal Fusil in the form of a Breaker Shield for Maximum Irony. Maybe Cim's sentence can be lowered if he helps in this regard?""As I've said many times, I didn't make the Breaker Shields, they are not within my purview. Still, the form is as good as any. Abstain."
"I want her sealed for two reasons. One: she attacked a god. Two: you could have given her orders to attack other gods after you've been sealed. There was a third reason but I forgot it."
"Of course. Unless he gets rid of my Tykki by sealing her too, as he had planned. That is why he wants to get both of us sealed, so he can murder us."34.03.2?
"Then why bother bonding Cim's angels as well? Unless you are trying to kill us.""There's a complicated answer to that. At the moment I only want them bound to Cim's container as protection. Cim hasn't demonstrated any intent to directly harm another god whether by his own self or through his angels and he technically hasn't broken any Council Rules, for those reasons he gets a significantly less severe punishment than you.
Propose that Cim is sealed for 1 Tick."Abstain, Abstain."
Propose that all of punishments on Cim are dropped if he helps seal Fusil as a Breaker Shield.
"I'm....honestly quite surprised, Cim. I didn't expect you to play the 'better man' card. I'm sorry about punishing you but you did make some pretty hefty amounts of dealings with Void creatures without council permission. I hope we can remain on, at least, lukewarm terms after all this is done. I'd also like to commend you for not doing anything that might harm Fusil, thus obeying Council Rules to not seek the death of another god. I really wish you hadn't made those deals with the Void. I really do."Propose that Cim is sealed for 1 Tick."Abstain, Abstain."
Propose that all of punishments on Cim are dropped if he helps seal Fusil as a Breaker Shield.
"I actually haven't made any deals with the Null nor the Void. Only talked with them and experimented with it. But if you deem I should be punished for that, feel free to attempt to persuade the others. I will hold no bad blood with you if you do. As a younger God, you don't remember how we all and the Bubble formed from the Void. Learning to understand it is a step to understanding ourselves, and vice versa.""In that case we should set up a council committee to study the Void in a safe, controlled environment. After 35 bloody Ticks it's about time we finally set up such a committee." (That's officially a proposal, by the way.)
"I propose that the constellations cycle in order, rather than randomly.""Support. Being able to predict them would give them some actual meaning."
"In that case we should set up a council committee to study the Void in a safe, controlled environment.""Support. If this passes, I will reveal everything I've learned so far, though I doubt most of us can do anything with it. Still, I feel offended that you suspect that the God of Order wouldn't keep its experiments under control."
An irony spoon flies around near the metaphorical ceiling of the Council, says "I will not disappear," and disappears."Er, who did that? Varee?"
"I propose that the constellations cycle in order, rather than randomly."
"In that case we should set up a council committee to study the Void in a safe, controlled environment."
"Interesting. In the Deities list it says that Artisanii is sealed away, as it should, but it doesn't mention the god of Honour, who was also supposedly sealed away by Fusil. Now, only Fusil would know the location of the god of Honour, so he could've killed him, stolen his Essence, and none of us would even know it. Care to explain that, Fusil? I'd like a response before I start accusing you of killing a god."
"I actually haven't made any deals with the Null nor the Void. Only talked with them and experimented with it. But if you deem I should be punished for that, feel free to attempt to persuade the others. I will hold no bad blood with you if you do. As a younger God, you don't remember how we all and the Bubble formed from the Void. Learning to understand it is a step to understanding ourselves, and vice versa."
"In that case we should set up a council committee to study the Void in a safe, controlled environment. After 35 bloody Ticks it's about time we finally set up such a committee." (That's officially a proposal, by the way.)
"I propose that the constellations cycle in order, rather than randomly."
Oppose 34.08(You are not above the law, Cim.)"I am not. That is why I ask Council permission."
Oppose 34.08(You are not above the law, Cim.)"I am not. That is why I ask Council permission."
As Fusil is obviously attempting to kill Cim at this very moment, and the support to seal him away for his crimes is so overwhelming, might we get on with it, lest he make yet more progress in his bloodthirsty quest?
I grow tired of him twisting words like so much rope, and feel ill at ease with the notion of losing the god who is currently our most powerful ally in this endeavour.
We must do this now, fellows. He is already striking out at us.
Look again, madman. Your actions are the evil ones, and I referred to Cim, not Yaos, when I spoke of our most powerful ally. There are yet seven gods allied against you, and you have no chance of defeating us all in time to prevent your downfall. You are only making things worse for yourself.
Fusil, you are digging your own grave. You seem to think that you are invincible, which you most definitely are not.
Fusil seems more and more like a dangerous madman. He wants to prevent us from investigating the void ourselves, refuses to share his information about it, attacks important council members, refuses to listen to reason or laws...
I propose we do more then just seal him away for three ticks. He is not going to stop attacking us. He must be put down like the beast he is. Him and all his angels.
Fusil, you seem to think being god of weapons makes you invincible. You are not. You aren't even the god of combat, merely the god of tools used to fight.
"Is that a threat, Serac? No doubt the God of Humans would have you sealed away purposelessly if he was still around. You know very well that you cannot be trusted. You dealt with the Void, and you know it was wrong of you. Why else would you lie about it? Isn't it strange, after all, how none of your followers where killed in the demon attack?"You were not the one to create the world, the council was. And apparently you know little about it, my followers were not harmed because they live in the ocean.QuoteFusil, you seem to think being god of weapons makes you invincible. You are not. You aren't even the god of combat, merely the god of tools used to fight."Don't think I am about to take that from the god of bubbles. You are so far below me, your petty insults do not even reach my ears."
"Part One, Thou Shall Not Cause Megadeaths Or Extinction Events. Part Two, Thou Shall Not Seek the Death of Another God. Part Three, Thou Shall Not Force Mortals To Worship You. Part Four, Thou Shall Not Force Mortals Not To Worship Other Gods. Part Five, Thou Shall Not Break The Universe."
You were not the one to create the world, the council was. And apparently you know little about it, my followers were not harmed because they live in the ocean.
"Let me remind everyone of our current code of conduct."
"What are you going to do, Fusil? Attack your own Angels? Dissuade them from Order, somehow? Send in Tykki to attack me again? Lash out at a third party? Your options are few."
"Which is why you had attacked the land far away from the ocean."I have seen you accuse at least three separate gods for this, and none of your reasons make sense. Stop bringing it up without evidence. Or at least choose one person to accuse with it.
"Thanks for that Darruth, I'll pay you back as soon as I can. Now, I invite all gods that AREN'T Fusil to join me in the Human Plane. Please bring all your angels and your archangels with you."
In any case, Fusil, I notice you are still adept at ignoring approximately half of what anyone says in argument to you, and instead choose to attack their character, authority, or simply use threats to obtain what you desire, your so-called perfect world
Let me ask you; if any other god was acting in this manner, assaulting another while calling them useless and claiming that guilt by association meant it was justified, how would you respond? If, say, it was Yaos attempting the destruction fo Azem, say?
Cim calls for its minor Angels to go right by the edge inside the Human Plane and turns an iota of its attention to it, but doesn't sway from controlling the Angels of Fusil.
It saddens me greatly, but I must give fair warning, in such a case.
"Cowards, letting your own fears get in the way of true justice.""Wise words."
Perhaps you are right. Perhaps we will.(AND THAT is why I will never play as a god of law. Maybe a god of order but NEVER law :P.)
I will ask you, Cim; as the God of Law and Order, how skilled are you at writing contracts, and sealing loopholes?
Instead, I would propose that the Council, with the Aid of Cim, myself, and Yaos, work on a binding geas that will prevent Fusil from pulling any stunts like this in the future. And I do not mean simply words saying what he can and cannot do, but in effect to bar him from doing them through a constant force, if need be.Support
However, I will propose that his sentence be lengthened to 6 ticks, during which time we can investigate this matter and show him the folly of his ways. If nothing else, it will allow us to build our strength up again in the case that he refuses to listen to reason.Support
I am sorry to say that I must oppose the shortening of trials. Trials are not only for rogue gods who wish to kill another, but also for those accused of committing lesser wrongs; it would be unfair to deny them the time to plead their case simply because we fear some might abuse it."In less than a single Tick, Fusil nearly managed to kill TWO gods. Not one - TWO. Imagine if had two full Ticks to do as he pleased? I say it's likely either Cim or I would've wound up dead. Cim lost 12 Essence in one attack! At the very least can the time of a trial be shortened to 1 Tick for those that attack other gods? That way, gods being charged with lesser crimes will get a fair trial, while keep the safety of other gods in mind."
"Are you not the divine personification of Humanity?""Yeah, but I'm more of a patron deity of Humans rather than all Humans themselves. I'm not getting any kicks out of it, I just want my people to be happy for themselves." :)
I oppose killing Fusil. Dangerous and spitefull as he may be, he still would be vital should any major threat arise. Besides, it has been proven that the council can deal with him.I think the dangers outweigh the risks. We might need his protection, but what is his protection worth? He wants to kill at least two members of the council, perhaps more. He must be removed.
"In less than a single Tick, Fusil nearly managed to kill TWO gods. Not one - TWO. Imagine if had two full Ticks to do as he pleased? I say it's likely either Cim or I would've wound up dead. Cim lost 12 Essence in one attack! At the very least can the time of a trial be shortened to 1 Tick for those that attack other gods? That way, gods being charged with lesser crimes will get a fair trial, while keep the safety of other gods in mind."
If we remove them, the worlds economies will surely be shattered. If we leave them, who knows what damage they might do? For better or worse, he's left his mark, and we must keep this in mind...I think the creations of dead gods live on after their creator dies. Tykki might be a problem, but nothing we cannot deal with.
"Enough is enough! I propose we execute Fusil!"[color]"Support. Indeed, I have already given him two second chances, and he rejected both."
"I also propose that trials only last a maximum of 1 Tick. I said 2 Ticks before to give people more time to vote but seeing how everything turned out, how Fusil was using his time while he was still free to kill us, I say that 2 Ticks will give the accused god too much time to kill people.""Support, though I propose this to be amended to be limited to cases where violence can be reasonably expected."
Instead, I would propose that the Council, with the Aid of Cim, myself, and Yaos, work on a binding geas that will prevent Fusil from pulling any stunts like this in the future."Support, despite the difficulty of it."
However, I will propose that his sentence be lengthened to 6 ticks, during which time we can investigate this matter and show him the folly of his ways. If nothing else, it will allow us to build our strength up again in the case that he refuses to listen to reason."Support. I admit my interest is only in increasing the advantage in Essence, however, as 3 ticks is very much enough or me."
The monsters have mostly been vanquished. A few appear once in a while, but not nearly enough to cause significant harm.Would've been nice to know when I was deciding whether or not to bring some archangels over for protection. Oh well.
The gem dragon asks for a payment of 20kg/44lb of gold in advance for its services as an entertainer."Nu uh. I've seen what happens when Gem Dragons get 'paid in advance'. If you win the fight, I'll give you double what you're asking for. If you lose, you get half. Deal?"
The monsters have mostly been vanquished. A few appear once in a while, but not nearly enough to cause significant harm.Wow! 10 combat-enhanced, unaging (and thus extremely experienced) soldiers in heavy armour armed with Fusil-made flamethrowers against a single angel and they got curb-stomped? Very unexpected. See how well 10 Paladins do against a Controller Angel (decreased combat ability and aging) and pit one generic angel against 50 Paladins. The angels are told not to be such dicks if they beat their sparring partners. It's disrespectful.
(Darruth: -3E)
10 paladins fight a generic angel. The generic angel gets bored after pretending that there is any challenge and wins. The paladins are irritated.
Cim, there was nothing there... Are you cursed or something?"Not that I know of. Distressing."
Jeffrey appears. "Hiding, Yaos. I'm not as strong as even your weakest angels." He looks around for a second at what he imagines are frowning angels."Well next time give me a heads up whenever you see a god-injuring archangel show up in the Human Plane."
"Not that there are any of those here."
Most of the Ikakus' energy blasts are reflected or transmit through the quartz dragon, forcing both to fight claw-to-claw. Both of them withdraw out of exhaustion."Dang Azem! How strong did you make those scales? I bet you could qualify as a god of armour if you put your mind to it! At least I don't have to pay that Gem Dragon anything, now."
The riots on Keshan seem to be about bored adolescents wanting something to do, outrage over random murders, the poor wanting food, scandals involving the local governors, and more contrived things.I guess I'll send the Emperor back to govern the Empire. He's done his job long enough, he'd know how to handle the problems.
The psymental angel has detected five Void-related Inquisitors so far.
Ignatius has been sent to a great elementalist for training. Ignatius seems to tend toward wanting to live a peaceful life in the countryside again but trains mostly out of obedience.*Ahem*
When the Duondio reincarnates next time, a replacement soul will be made that'll be roughly the same, but it'll also have an instinctual desire to help people with its powers. And by 'help people with its powers' I mean the whole fighting off monsters and saving villages and stuff - NOT just warming up fires for other people.
"I shall make a race to live alongside my Rani in peace."
Create 450 sapient ravens. They shall inhabit the forests of the north. They will be gifted in hiding and spying.
Might I ask the person who opposed my constellations to do so out in the open, and explain their reasons for doing so? I might find your reasons just, but as it is now, it seems like opposition for the sake of being frustrating, rather than an honest disagreement as for their being added."Oh. Damn. Sorry. I thought I'd already mentioned why. I'm opposing the Seraph constellation because 'Heavens' is way too loosely defined. Does it refer to the sky? Space? One of the incorporeal planes? All of them? It's too broad. I'm also opposing the Keshan meteor shower because it may hurt people, or a god could hijack it and use it to hurt people. I don't know anything about who or why people are opposing your other two skyfeatures. I'll be willing to support those two if you support my constellations. Deal?
Ah. I could, perhaps, change the Meteor Showers to ensure they all burn up in orbit? I had thought to make them predictable, so that people could stay out of the way of where they fall, and by the time they reached the ground, the fragments left would be small enough as to pose no significant danger to anyone, as well as possibly containing unique metals or magical materials that we might guide to our followers without being...oblique about it."You mean they WEREN'T going to burn up in orbit originally!? I am very glad I opposed that one! All a god would have to do to abuse the system is spend a bit of Essence to increase the size of a small meteor and it would crash down and hurt someone. I oppose all meteor-related activities."
When I say Heavens, I primarily meant the sky, especially the higher areas that serve more as concept than anything else, and our planes, particularly communication with or requests thereof. Heavens in the sense of augury and of navigation, as well as divine intervention."It's still rather vague, and if it has to do with a conceptual version of 'Heavens' then it could potentially power itself to an infinite degree, which could end up being worse than the meteors! I'll still have to oppose this one."
But yes, I can support your constellations, I believe, though I thought they'd already passed."They did, but then someone started opposing them and now they're blurry."
Support Yaos' constellations? if I can?
Unfortunately, at the moment, your constellations have been challenged. You can try getting support from three others or spending 2E to force it.
They were going to burn up originally, it's just that not all of them would burn up entirely; small pieces might reach the ground. Or I could set it so they slowed to a speed near the ground that they would not hurt anyone. A god could do the exact same thing by spending essence in any case; it's simply a matter of how the individual is hurt.Ah. I could, perhaps, change the Meteor Showers to ensure they all burn up in orbit? I had thought to make them predictable, so that people could stay out of the way of where they fall, and by the time they reached the ground, the fragments left would be small enough as to pose no significant danger to anyone, as well as possibly containing unique metals or magical materials that we might guide to our followers without being...oblique about it."You mean they WEREN'T going to burn up in orbit originally!? I am very glad I opposed that one! All a god would have to do to abuse the system is spend a bit of Essence to increase the size of a small meteor and it would crash down and hurt someone. I oppose all meteor-related activities."
"It's still rather vague, and if it has to do with a conceptual version of 'Heavens' then it could potentially power itself to an infinite degree, which could end up being worse than the meteors! I'll still have to oppose this one."I don't think it could actually do so, and I could set that as a limit in any case to prevent such a scenario.
Neron: You hear the following prayers:
"We are planning to construct a n ice temple to you. What sort of structure would you prefer?"
"My child has a fever. Can you do something"
They were going to burn up originally, it's just that not all of them would burn up entirely; small pieces might reach the ground. Or I could set it so they slowed to a speed near the ground that they would not hurt anyone. A god could do the exact same thing by spending essence in any case; it's simply a matter of how the individual is hurt."Just do something else. An asteroid, a comet, a meteor shower on Keshan's moon, just not on Keshan itself."
I don't think it could actually do so, and I could set that as a limit in any case to prevent such a scenario."Just pick something that isn't so broad and undefined as 'heavens'."
Consider the costs of creating Paladins to defend the people and spread Goodness.Consider the costs of going through patent law and suing Darruth for idea- and name-taking without paying
Work on the Book of Divine Truth, containing the history of the divine world and the gods as it is currently known and established. Have it enchanted to write itself automatically as time passes.[/b]vetovetovetovetovetovetovetovetovetovetovetovetoveto
It can only write as much as I know, and it will not write of secret dealings. It will, effectively, have a small portion of my consciousness dedicated to it's maintenance. It was meant for me and mine in any case. I see no reason to hide the works of the divine from the mortal, save when it would unnecessarily worry them, or they would only become confused and upset by it's reading, rather than enlightened.Allowed.
Fine, 'The Gods' rather than 'The Heavens'. Are you satisfied?"That is half of a good idea. Just change it to 'Divine Magic' and I'll give my support."
Remember that the God Of Goodness has a far better claim on the name Paladin than a God of Ambition. Leaving aside adjectives to be added to either (Holy Paladin, anyone?).Remember that the only patent law in existence was created by a servant of said God of Ambition and that said God of Ambition saved the God of Law's life......not that that has anything to do with anything, of course.
"36.00: Change to Oppose. The whole point of shortening trials was so violent accused don't have time to attack. Why should we shorten every other type instead?"(I think the GM just accidently'd the structure of the sentence.)
The comet already has to do with divine magic, and we've established that we do not wish them to overlap. Would The Planes or Inter-Dimensional Travel suit better? I am honestly somewhat annoyed that you are contesting my constellation simply by virtue of the aspect it represents not suiting you. It seems rude, if I may be blunt.(There's a difference between Divine magic and Celestial magic. Celestial has to do with the constellations, Divine has to do with the gods.)
"Yaos, might I suggest you drop the matter, lest you annoy someone?""Fine. But I still ask Darruth to change it to something less loosely-defined as 'Heavens'."
"Do we know what the Void itself does? How does Void magic work? How many of these Void Beings exist? What information do we have on them?"The void magic... Void is a lot like godly essence. And there are about fifty known void beings.
That would explain why the hunter is not here yet, why he was so worried about the hunter and him being sealed for its appearance, why Cim got attacked by a jelly roll...[/color]"How does it explain anything? Why is a Killer coming here? Why was it delayed because of Fusil? Are you saying he provoked us into sealing him so the Killer couldn't get to him? How do you know all this?"
(Its fine by me, and I assume that I am aloud to post here in that case. The jail is supposed to be monitored or something, after all.)(You are sealed. I'm not sure you can post anything IC.)
((A couple of things. One: Teliural is only to be used as a backup weapon, with its 'special option' only to be used when ordered to by Yaos himself. Two: Teliural needs to be summoned from nothing, and is not immediately present once the fusion is complete. Three: Teliural is the energy spear and can only be summoned when Lette is dominant. Four: When Vaal is dominant, he uses Zephemelas - a one-handed arming sword that does not cover its user in armour. Five: When Vaal is dominant, his skin becomes as hard as his (supposedly) indestructible armour so as to keep the same amount of defence while allowing him to use magic and energy blasts. Six: He is supposed to be three times faster than a standard fused angel, but Tykki would presumably be a very good shot so I can let that pass.))
(Imma enjoy killing you so much :D)(You just mad cos I made an anti-angel archangel. ;))
(You do realize that *You* can still send PMs just fine ,right?
"Coward? Or strategist? My Angels are exactly where I want them to be.""I'm going to go with coward. Unless you're using them to help defeat STF. But otherwise, yeah, coward."
"Coward? Or strategist? My Angels are exactly where I want them to be."I assume that stasis was you? Good job.
"What is it that you want from me exactly?""Quick question first: how do you feel about Fusil? Do you have any loyalties to him? Just curious. Mostly."
Tykki throws down what seems to be a large metal egg before being held in stasis. Her weapons disappear.It's a nuke!
Tykki throws down what seems to be a large metal egg before being held in stasis. Her weapons disappear. All of Fusil's angels have now been locked.Well fuck. The Jumper Angel, who has just been collecting weapons this whole time and HASN'T BEEN FIGHTING grabs Fusil's sealed form and jumps to the Death Battle Plane. The Emperor uses his Universal attunement to access Dimensional magic to help teleport the egg into Fusil's prison. Everyone else GTFO of there ASAP. The Dimensional mages that helped everyone get there (because how else would they get there?) are told (possibly by Jeffrey) to teleport everyone except the Jumper Angel and the Emperor out of there. If the Emperor can help with teleporting the egg from another plane of existence, he will also be teleported out.
The Psymental angel makes sure to try to force Tykki to attack the Harbinger of Doom.(Why - no, HOW - would he do that if she disappeared?)
"I have always rather disliked him, and I have no reason to be loyal to him. Our goals have never really aligned, in any case.""Alright. I just need you to veto all of Khaziraad's actions ((that's DreamerGhost, right?)) I also could use some help teleporting a few dudes to the corporeal realm."
Anyone here care to explain why Fusil is getting attacked instead of that void creture?Well, there was an attack planned on Fusil that they happened to interrupt...
Harbinger of Doom: "Waiting for a prophecy to come to pass."What is that prophecy?
The Jumper angel attempts to grab Fusil's sealed form. The Jumper angel has been arrested by the Council for attempted theft of Council property and freeing of prisoners.(How did the council arrest him? No one in the council even proposed to arrest him.) Where is the Jumper Angel now?
egg are still mostly intact.Tol: "So what do we do now?"
Abstain from 37.01. But remember, he was planning to kill half the council, if not more."He was!? I mean...er.....of course he was! Yes, that is a thing he was totally going to do!"
Well, it sure sounded like he wanted to... And he attempted to kill both you and Cim, did he not?Abstain from 37.01. But remember, he was planning to kill half the council, if not more."He was!? I mean...er.....of course he was! Yes, that is a thing he was totally going to do!"
Well, it sure sounded like he wanted to... And he attempted to kill both you and Cim, did he not?"Yeah, that makes sense. He's well known for his grudges so he probably would've taken his imprisonment out on the council when he got out."
"A pressing matter would be to dispose of Fusil's body, by the way. Grauel got a new pet last time, but I doubt any of us wants another monster as that to come."
egg are still mostly intact.Yaos: "Nuke the fucker!"
"You three have lots of explaining to do. I suggest you get on with it.""Well, we thought that once Fusil got out he was going to kill the gods who voted for his imprisonment, Cim and myself, our angels, and perhaps even genocide some of our races. We thought the best way to prevent that was to make sure Strike Team Fusil wouldn't be able of carrying out those missions. We certainly didn't intend to kill him - NOT THAT WE DID - and we don't know what the hell that Harbinger is."
Fusil's angels have been taken by Cim's to somewhere."No fair, Cim! It was my Paladins and the Ikakus - who fought under ME - who killed most of those angels! I deserve at least half of them!"
"A pressing matter would be to dispose of Fusil's body, by the way. Grauel got a new pet last time, but I doubt any of us wants another monster as that to come."Well, we could absorb his essence for use in the council. I will just do that then?
And Yaos, you know the Harbringer well. You do remember her, don't you? Didn't her brother go missing?[/color](This is what I thought the Harbinger looked like.)
Well, we could absorb his essence for use in the council. I will just do that then?"Actually, the plan was to kill Strike Team Fusil if I remember correctly."
So I helped Yaos with his plan to kill Fusil.
Correction: Correct Serac +2E to Council +2EYaos tries to remember what he learned from Lyle.
"I thought I was the god of Greed?""Hehe, true." :D "Maybe you should step up your game, eh?" ;D
Kli:
The Philosopher writes "One is of a color resembling the feathers of the legendary Stormwing. We doubt it actually existed, but we rationalize our desire for gold this way."
The Pilgrim continues along the passage.
The Monk stops after seeing a vision of her dead parents. She rushes through the passage.
Azem bars his fangs.Yaos turns female.
"I could ssstart by feasssting on you."
Azem chuckles.
"If you want the Essence from the Council, propose how we should use it.""I propose that I get all of it. I spent a lot of time and Essence on the attack and I'm the one who lost the most in it."
"About Fusil's Angels, what should be done to them? I have them ready to be destroyed with a mere thought, but I suppose I should ask the Council's opinion on that.""Give them to me. I call dibs on them and considering that it was my forces that got most - if not all - of the kills, I should at least have propriety over their corpses."
"I don't look anything like Grauel.""Coulda fooled me with that mug o' yours! Ha ha ha ha! I'm just playin'."
"I propose that I get all of it. I spent a lot of time and Essence on the attack and I'm the one who lost the most in it.""Oppose. You can, however, have back the Essence you spent on reviving me, before I forget. Thank you for the loan."
"I call dibs on them and considering that it was my forces that got most - if not all - of the kills""Was it really? Two of the five minor Angels were captured by Vartija, and the other three were taken down by joint forces. Vartija also disarmed Tykki and set her into stasis (although she was weakened by Nuparhi first). I have as much a claim to them as you do. Still, as others seem to have interest in them, I will do this:"
"Oppose. You can, however, have back the Essence you spent on reviving me, before I forget. Thank you for the loan.""Thank you, Cim. I instead propose I only get 1 Essence from the Council Pool."
Cim gives Andres 1E.
"Was it really? Two of the five minor Angels were captured by Vartija, and the other three were taken down by joint forces. Vartija also disarmed Tykki and set her into stasis (although she was weakened by Nuparhi first). I have as much a claim to them as you do. Still, as others seem to have interest in them, I will do this:"((I thought that they were basically paralysed by your angels and then my guys took them out. I actually have no idea who killed what. I just assumed that with 24 double-size Skyrim dragons and 100 immortal warriors trained in anti-angel tactics (who managed to beat three of my angels), I'd have been the one who got the most killed.))
Cim gives control over the used-to-be Fusil's Angels and Tykki currently held in the Plane of Order to the Council.
"Personally I would simply throw them into the Churn, but there may be better options."
Kli's challengers continue their quest in three tenses:
Philosopher: "I no longer desire either. I seek the truth of Balance now."
The Luminee Pilgrim begins picking away at the ceiling.
The Monk: "Not being able to protect the ones I love."
"I question your hearing Yaos. Cim specifically said he was releasing the angels to the council."((I was very tired at the time. Only last night did I manage to get a good night's sleep. Just look at the stuff I posted. I honestly thought they were gifted to me. I'm not sure how I thought he was giving them to me. I think it might've been because he was acquiescing to something and then I mentally skipped everything else? I don't know. I swear I didn't intentionally try to steal them.))
"I would also like to say here that I'm the one who organised the attack on Fusil's angel, I'm the one who brought most of the firepower used against them, and I'm the one who lost the most in the attack, so I should definitely at keep at least part of the spoils."You went behind the council's back to launch an attack on a god and his followers and now you want to be rewarded for it by all of us? I don't particularly follow the logic. Not to say I don't understand why you want the angels, especially if you lost the most in the attack. However why would we care about your losses in a battle the council never approved of? I see absolutely no reason why any of us should particularly support you gaining control of the angels. I'm not technically opposed to you getting them. I mean, I certainly don't care to have them. I simply don't get why you believe any of us would feel like we owe it to you to let you have anything. It's no different than if you lost something in any other conflict that the council was uninvolved in. If this were to set any type of precedent, I could just as easily destroy most of your forces with my angels and then say I deserve part of the spoils because I invested the most in crushing you and your followers into the ground. I think you can see how that type of attitude towards the "spoils of war" in these situations could very quickly lead to... undesirable results.
I already took the egg. Who knows what you would do with it... Destroy its mind if it hatches?QuoteCreating a huge explosion on the metal egg seems not to have damaged it at all.Jeffrey grabs the egg and locks it in the Human Plane.
(God damn it. I just can't keep up with everyone!)QuoteI already took the egg. Who knows what you would do with it... Destroy its mind if it hatches?QuoteCreating a huge explosion on the metal egg seems not to have damaged it at all.Jeffrey grabs the egg and locks it in the Human Plane.
Oppose Yaos stealing the egg.
(God damn it. I just can't keep up with everyone!)Well, I already did. It is non-magical, and is warm dispute not having a pulse. And I don't have any void mages or null contacts, so I would rather not. Besides, what makes you think it is from the void?
"I was going to scan it for Void, Essence, life, sentience, and magic. I suggest you do the same." ;) "But seriously, why would you think I'd mind destroy it if it hatched? What even is that thing? You should have a Void mage look at it. Maybe ask a Null about it too."
-snip-"Good point, but unless you propose an alternative system that'll fairly distribute the booty towards the gods that deserve them I'm going to have to stick with my request."
"My hungry friend makes a good point. The sole fact that you three felt the need to go behind the collective back of the Council also upsets me."
I tried to get the council's help, but I was ignored. So when Yaos contacted me about attacking Fusil directly, I sent two angels to help."Exactly! So we didn't really go behind the Council's back, it's just that we were ignored, technically!"
Angela and Nuparhi give Jeffrey a dirty look and Jeffrey shrinks back. It seems they are trying to hatch the egg. The egg cannot seem to leave the Plane of Oceans and Bubbles."YOU'RE TRYING TO HATCH IT!?!? You do realise that Fusil made deals with the Void, right? We have no idea what that thing is and you want to HATCH IT!?" D:< "Can we at least make sure we have studied it from every angle? I have a group of Scientists who can give it a look to see if it's scientific in nature."
Wanting to or not, your actiions resulted in death of a fellow god. Your desire to claim all that was Fusils for yourself shows your true collors. I vote for conviction."It was also the Council itself that resulted in the death of a god. If I had my way, Fusil would be alive in the Death Battle Plane right now. It wasn't simply a matter of me wanting Fusil to live, it was also me actively trying to make sure Fusil lived. I've also relinquished all claims to Fusil's stuff. With Tykki dead it's kind of moot now. It had nothing to do with wanting power, by the way, but I've been sworn to secrecy not to say........ Hey that rhymed!" ^_^
"Good point, but unless you propose an alternative system that'll fairly distribute the booty towards the gods that deserve them I'm going to have to stick with my request."... No one deserves anything. You get what you can take or what others are willing to give you. The whole push for what you deserve is completely foreign to me. You don't deserve anything. There is really no particular reason to give you anything. That leaves you with taking something. And if you begin to take... and if it successful... then others will begin to want to take as well. That is my point.
Pretending to be stupid is futile. Your folowers use bombs as weapons, their creation and use were ordered by you. Fiery explosions were rather open for evryone to see when they were used in battle against underground monsters"Oh so they're like grenades! That makes sense. Let's see if I can adapt it into the analogy......"
And even in your unchanged analogy, ther wouldn't had been casualties if it was done under expert supervision or not done at all, would there?"Except in that case, he actually did go to the one and only bomb expert in existence but he was ignored and since it was legal he just decided to go for it."
Your analogy lacks "One of the dudes (the one who died) was there unwilingly and tied up" and "by playing I mean throving lit grenades at each other". You could also add "it was all higly illegal"."Ok, the dude who died was instead in the house next door to the bomb guy, and yes he was there unwillingly and tied up, but he was still next door. Throwing lit grenades at each other, in this case, is still legal. The attack was not illegal because Anath's Code says that we can't go after other gods. Angels are not gods, so by Council Rules I have legal right to attack them."
So we arived to the point where you agree that you totaly boched up."Hey! If the law enforcement - that's the Council - hadn't prevented the dude - that's me - from preventing death, then death would have been prevented! And everyone knows that making sure a death happens is pretty much the same as making the death. For that I sue the Council for breaking Part 2 of Anath's Starter Code of Conduct!"
Then we will be able to move on to habe a look at what to do to you for atempting to claim the goods of metaphorical neibor you killed becouse your grenades exploded with most force."Just because my grenades exploded with the most force doesn't mean they're the ones that hit the neighbour. All of my grenades were aimed squarely at Fusil's Angels and not Fusil himself, and due to not being aimed at Fusil, NONE of those grenades hit Fusil."
As for being ignored by the council, what exatly did you propose?"Ask Serac. He ((she?)) was the one who asked the Council."
Darruth is silent for a moment, as he processes the information, even after having returned his awareness to the Godly Realm. Then, something snaps."........What was the first shitstorm again?"
What the fuck is this shit? I stop watching you deities for half-a-tick and a second shitstorm pops up? This is utterly godsdamned ridiculous.
After practically choking on his words and fury, he takes a moment to compose himself, though it's quite evident that what was snapped has not been unsnapped.
So let me figure something out. Let me make sure I know exactly what's happening right now.
You lot; Cim, Yaos, and Serac, lead an attack on the angels that were supposed to keep Fusil from dying while he was in stasis and we collected information about the events leading up to his assault on Cim
A Harbinger appeared out of nowhere, I have no idea what the fuck those things do
Fusil died during the attack on his guardian angels, and the council surveillance reports that the three of you murdered him.
The three of you, primarily Yaos, try to actually gain some shit out of this whole affair, and Yaos seems to be not only staying out of the trial involving him like his comrades are doing, but is trying to get as much power as possible from this shit-fest, it seems.
For Goodness' fucking sake, people. This is bullshit. And I am very, very disappointed in you, Yaos.
So, allow me to demonstrate, one at a time, why you guys fucked up. Whether you should be punished or not is a different matter.
A. We could have continued to keep Fusil sealed indefinitely, so it wasn't like he was an actual threat at the moment.
B. WHERE IS YOUR GODSDAMNED PROOF THAT HE PLANNED ANY OF THE SHIT YOU SAID HE DID? He claimed the exact same thing of you three when he attacked Cim! And this gives so much more credence to those claims. And don't try to bullshit this. I am the God of Goodness, and even if Truth isn't directly under Good, it's so very damnably close that I can assure you it will be trivial to ensure you can't lie to the Council on this.
C. If I fire a catapult at a castle that you are living in, and say it's justified because I wasn't attacking you, per se, it's still a bullshit argument. In addition to, Fusil tried using the exact same argument to get out of being in trouble with the council for attacking Cim by claiming that Tykki was the one to attack. And guess what? That was bullshit too. Besides which, they were bound to protect him, so if you attacked them and something else killed him because they were dead or busy, you caused his death, indirectly or not.
D. Doing this shit in secret, rather than waiting for the council to vote on whether or not to execute him. That just makes you look bad.
And now, Yaos, allow me to demonstrate all of the flaws in your argument.
First off, fuck analogies. We're Gods. Mortal analogies don't apply. And shut up for a second about me using one earlier, fuck that one too, then.
Second off, there is a fucking difference between 'it's not specifically illegal' and 'legal rights'. 'Legal rights' are specifically outlined as your being allowed to do them. 'Not specifically illegal' can still be against the spirit of the law, which is the important part here. Nobody but you gives a shit about the letter of the law. And maybe Cim, but he's kinda obligated to do it so it's not his fault.
Third, for causing the wrongful death of a god based on trumped up conspiracy charges that you tried to carry out in secret? You don't deserve shit. In fact, I would argue that you might even deserve to have some shit taken away as punishment. YOU CAUSED THE FUCKING DEATH. STOP BULLSHITTING, DAMNIT.
Fourth, actually, fine. Let's try an analogy. Your grenade blew up in the guy's house. The house collapses. The guy dies. STILL YOUR FAULT.
Fifth, your bullshit attempts at legal grounds, and trying to sue the Council for trying to stop you from breaking the spirit of the law, means you basically just lost all claim to legal credibility in terms of being allowed to represent yourself. Get Cim to do it instead; he'll be better anyway.
In case you haven't noticed, I'm pissed. This is what happens when you get a God of Goodness truly angry. Would you like me to continue? Or have you finished with the bullshit, and I can return to my usual self? I'd like to return to my usual self. Please stop bullshitting us? It's not working.
Support 37.00a
Support 37.01b, contingent on the action taken by the council for conviction being making the decision of punishment.
Support 37.02a
"There have technically been three, involving Fusil, but Goodness wasn't around for the first one.""Hmmmm........I can't seem to remember the first one. Could I get a reminder?"
I'm confused.I don't know how to find out, he appears to have been slain in a locked down dimension...
Really, what on earth is going on?
And what killed Yaos so quickly and silently?
I'm confused.
...
Really, what on earth is going on?
And what killed Yaos so quickly and silently?
Jeffrey: "The Emperor killed Yaos! It was the Angel-Emperor of Mankind! The Emperor is currently in battle with Minos - one of Yaos' Angels. Yaos can be revived, so please do so! Cim! She saved your life when she donated Essence to wake you from sleep! Azem! Yaos was always grateful for what you did for him and her race. You have plenty of Essence so if you could just donate a bit! Joha, remember how you worked with Yaos to bring two new creatures into the world?"I'm confused.I don't know how to find out, he appears to have been slain in a locked down dimension...
Really, what on earth is going on?
And what killed Yaos so quickly and silently?
(Not that powerful, actually. Vaal and Lette, individually, can each defeat the Emperor. I didn't give him the ENHANCED trait, if I remember correctly, and both Telialas and Zephemural are each more powerful than the Fire Sword since they were attuned to their wielders and especially because of their powers (especially Zephemural's).)
Given that we're fighting a rather powerful angel
Give 10 essence to reviving Yaos.
Given that we're fighting a rather powerful angel, it's a bad idea to go in with little essence.
Assess the situation in the Human Plane.
Azem gives five essence to the corpse of Yaos.(So can I just come back to life now?)
(It was strong enough to kill you, though, wasn't it?)
Why did the emperor attack Yaos anyways?(
(Gods are underpowered. They ought to have some way to defend thems-.....I should upgrade myself. WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THIS BEFORE? (Patented by Yaos&Jeffrey Incorporated.))(fuck yo patents brah)
Are you going to respond to the fact that you still caused the death of Fusil?"His text turned green. It couldn't be Azem because we're friends and if he wanted to kill me he could've just eaten my corpse when he was in the Human Plane. But I understand that there's no solid proof so I withdraw my proposal that Grauel goes on trial."
And what proof have you that it was Grauel? I am not stating that you are wrong, I simply want to know if we have proof, or if we are going purely off of hearsay and witness accounts, when we do not yet have the means of ensuring they are not lying.
"All I can say Yaos, is that you better be the most grateful divinity who ever existed. Ever.""You have no idea, Azem."
Azem: A few humans in the village join your caravan. Trade is slow, and the villagers seem not to have much in the way of disposable income.
Yaos: The "mages" report various Void spells that sound like cow pies. A few of the cultists continue reporting various influential people. The others turn in their cult minutes.
A powerful, devoted ninja slaughters most of your ninjas. You are left with only 11 ninjas, most of whom are back at the capital.
A Seppo high priest comes along, looks at the scribblings, and eats some more Mystic Snow.
"Pretty pictures! Now where's the money?"
The Armu care little. The general opinion is that a weapon's utility is not in notoriety but in actual usefulness.
The Bandits' Guild agrees on the agreement for the duration of the Bazaar. There is now an increase in unwanted Lawmancy activity along the roads.
(PMs indeed)Spoiler: Lawmode (click to show/hide)
Clarification: The Emperor was struck by a bright energy blast from Lette. Most of the observers speculate that the Emperor was vaporized.(An energy blast vaporised an archangel? I'd understand if it was an energy wave or at least an energy beam but a blast? No way it was the real Emperor.)
The Yaosian paladins and the ninjas learn of the Emperor's apparent treachery. They mourn.The Paladins and ninjas are informed that he has been cleared of his charges and that it was an imposter that attacked Yaos, but that the real Emperor's corpse was found buried in a shallow grave just outside the capital.
(It's not much of a Horus Heresy unless the Emperor is Horus and a bunch of other angels turn on you.)Yaos rechecks the links between her and her angels. Any thoughts of rebellion? She also copy and pastes all knowledge and experience they have into herself, so she at least has some combat experience the next time she has to fight.
"You'll be hard pressed to find better representations of the gods, trust me my friend."(What's this in reference to? I'm missing the context.)
Kli:The many paintings surrounding the Philosopher begins to glow with Kli's aura. "Here is my task for you: which among these many events, is the most important to remember? And why?"
Philosopher: "Balance, I think, is reaching a happy moderation between extremes in all things."
Pilgrim: "I'll keep that in mind." The Pilgrim continues with bringing the roof down into the chasm.
Monk: "Do you not already know it?"
"How might I create flower that creates fire when in bloom?"Hmm... Interesting idea... Maybe try this?
"Where is the nearest Wood Elf village?"I give them directions.
"I wish for an extremely long life."You may have that.
A Slythan Luminee kingdom's population is slowly being sacrificed by a Human queen.I will appear before the queen and ask her why she is sacrificing people.
She says that an angel told her that it would grant her immortality if done completely when the stars are right and wants her sacrificers to be in shape for the long nights.What did this angel look like?
"I wish I could catch that nasty cutpurse."Blessedx3
"I invoke the Goldfather! To success, fellow guildsmen!"
"May the treasure fleet impress all in our next destination."
Serac: "A Human man with wings."Why would you take his word about how to gain immortality? Because sacrifices are not the way.
Serac:Oh, so you take the words of anyone who is behind me, eh? What if I was behind myself?
"Because he is right behind you..."
The culmination of many ticks of plotting and secret actions will reach its resolution soon.An excellent question, my child. If you are willing, I will answer it in the most complete way I can; I will make you my prophet, so that you might be able to tell others of what Good is, as well.
Darruth: The Guardians find their first Charges. Some prayers directed to you are as follows:
"How can I know what your will is?"
"What shall I do with my wealth that will most benefit the needy?"
"Thank you for striking down that murderer with the strange knife!"
You return to your ocean plane. Angela and Nuparhi are worried but are still sitting on or otherwise hugging the metal egg.I am fine, just lightly injured. I may have saved a kingdom... At least for now.
Are you saying the Humans are a stupid, helpless people unable to lead themselves without a god?
36.00: Trials held for actions other than assault, murder, or attempted murder last only for a tick (2-2/13)(This proposal is actually supposed to be that trials for assault, murder, or attempted murder should only last a Tick, not everything else. That's why Cim voted against it.)
37.03: Give Yaos the entire Council treasury (1-0/13)(I've relinquished my claim so just get rid of this proposal.)
37.01.a/b(Khaziraad is voting against convicting me, so you may want to change the vote counts.)
"Well, that happened. At least he's out of our legs for a while."-_- "I saved your life you know."
I am fine, just lightly injured. I may have saved a kingdom... At least for now."For the love of Us, Serac! Please can the Council be allowed to study it before we try hatching the bloody thing? We have no idea what would happen if it were to hatch!"
I think that egg might never hatch here. Perhaps it needs some time in the mortal realms?
Knock three times on the egg, then hit it three times with a piece of metal.
"Yes, you did, and you have my sincere thanks for that. I made that note about Varee, not you. You know, that useless blob that throws wrenches into our plans for no reason other than to be random?""Well, that happened. At least he's out of our legs for a while."-_- "I saved your life you know."
"He doesn't do it that often, really, but it would be nice to see him randomly do a positive thing for once instead of consistently - *ahem* - "randomly" doing negative things.""Yes, you did, and you have my sincere thanks for that. I made that note about Varee, not you. You know, that useless blob that throws wrenches into our plans for no reason other than to be random?""Well, that happened. At least he's out of our legs for a while."-_- "I saved your life you know."
Kli:
Philosopher: "The founding of the School. Without it, we would remain in the trap of illogical arguments."
The Pilgrim continues swinging at the ceiling. It does not seem very safe.
Monk: "I don't want to talk about it."
A Guild of Smiths has recently finished a large weapons order for an unknown client.Tori (the Jumper Angel, who is female) inspects the weapons, collects info on the weapons themselves and the person who ordered them, and takes one of the weapons herself to have a full examination conducted on it.
(Constellations: 2/3 for Yaos)(I am very sure I paid 2 Essence to have it forced.)
Kli:A vision of the Philosopher's paradise appears to the Philosopher. It shows all of the races living together in peace, neither being oppressed or exalted. There are many great works of art abound, a dazzling School for all standing in the distance, enough of both basic and luxury-based supplies for everyone to share. "Pay attention to the world you have envisioned. You see great things, do you not? As your final test, you must tell me two things you need to remove from this world in order to create a true paradise, and why. Do not worry, you have no time limit."
Philosopher: "Where all is balanced and nothing is in excess or scarce."
The Pilgrim carefully scales the wall, silently reciting some traditional sayings about balance on the way up and gets about half of the way across the chasm.
Monk: "How do you gods survive when there is only despair?"
"I wish for a way to travel across the snow quickly."
"If only you could make winter longer in these burning Southern Lands."
"I want to be frozen in ice for a thousand years!"
Give him a piece of paper with instructions to build a sled driven by wolves.(Both dogs and wargs exist. Both are easier to domesticate than wolves. By that I mean that they can be domesticated at all. IRL, wolves make awful sled dogs. You could make your own species of wolves to do the job, but it's probably cheaper to use either dogs or wargs.)
(Dogs are boring and wargs are more of a drive to war and feast on blood of enemies thing)(Not at all. You're thinking of classic fantasy wargs. These wargs are physically just horse-sized wolves. Mentally, they're almost as accommodating as dogs. That's not to say they're nice, but they're not cruel/evil/blood-thirsty either.)
Besides, I don't trust you with it. You threw a nuke at it!"That's why I'm saying it should be given to the Council." >:I
Frankly, I agree with Yaos in a way. That egg should be confiscated from you. It was by specificly your hand that Fusil died, and it involved that egg. If it can kill gods I'd rather you not have it.Well, I have my doubts that the egg can kill a god... It has no magical power, no essence, no void energy...
Well, I have my doubts that the egg can kill a god... It has no magical power, no essence, no void energy...
Everything about it just seems like a warm lump of metal. :-\
And if it could kill a god, well there are lots of things that can do that. I wouldn't use an egg to kill someone.
That's what YOU say. Fusil did die when you threw this into his cell.It was Tykki's egg to begin with though...
It was Tykki's egg to begin with though...
And if I wanted to kill someone, I could just send an angel, or use a sword. Why would I throw an egg at them?
"Hm. We need some form of mobile sapient Council security, sworn to uphold Council law, meager as it is. And they would not have any particular loyalty to Cim, or indeed, any of us."
"Hm. We need some form of mobile sapient Council security, sworn to uphold Council law, meager as it is. And they would not have any particular loyalty to Cim, or indeed, any of us."
(Yeah, Yasos tried to grab your stuff in most disgustingly agresive manner possible, which kinda took atention off the other two)
"Hm. We need some form of mobile sapient Council security, sworn to uphold Council law, meager as it is. And they would not have any particular loyalty to Cim, or indeed, any of us.""Oppose. Council law is meager, yes, but is not a problem. It's also very of vague. We didn't make any rules that would imprison anyone attempting to move an imprisoned god, but that is exactly what happened when Tori tried to 'port him into the DBP. I'd rather not spend Essence on a guardian that would guard a law that we don't even understand. What if someone tripped over one of these invisible laws and found themselves on the wrong end of a Council Guardian hit-squad? Completely unacceptable." :I
(What would be the point? You only enforce it when it suits you. You just let three murders walk away...)(The point of the assault was to kill your angels - not you. It was more or less coincidence that you died at the same time. Probably less....buuuuuuuuut there's no way to prove it. ^_^ Seriously, we don't even know for sure the cause of death. For all we know it was Tykki that killed you by detonating the egg inside you or something. For all we know. You might know more, but IC we know nothing.)
"I would be willing to buy one weapon Yaos."Deal. But first I'm having the GM scan the weapons for Void influence and stuff, and if some is found then it won't be for sale and will instead be donated to the Void Study Committee."
(He lost most of his power.)(I lost most of my power, yes, but I was also KILLED. Does no one even care that a DEATH occurred?)
(I lost most of my power, yes, but I was also KILLED. Does no one even care that a DEATH occurred?)
(He lost most of his power. Other gods are not interested enough in punishing other two. This should realy move to OOC)
Someone throws the metal egg onto Fusil's prison. Nothing seems to happen.What even makes you think the egg killed Fusil anyways? It didn't even go into his prison...
((Case 3 if they're a Seraphim/already know some Divine Magic, Case 2 if they're anything else/don't know Divine Magic))
Darruth: (Which kind of prophet?)
(I lost most of my power, yes, but I was also KILLED. Does no one even care that a DEATH occurred?)((Well... (http://youtu.be/xzYO0joolR0?t=10s)and Fusil didn't. And you caused his death. So yeah.))
The Dwarves threaten to bind Tori to the corporeal dimension in response to some espionage.Who is Tori? And is this not proof that they were the one who was summoning the demons?
(Yaos: Constellations added, soul claimed)((Soul Claimed?))
The Seppo and Armu know nothing about the metal egg.Then who would? Maybe I should just give it to a Sorae elder...
Who is Tori? And is this not proof that they were the one who was summoning the demons?(Tori is my Jumper Angel.)
((Soul Claimed?))(I claimed the Ninja Assassin's soul. That means that when he dies he will definitely go to the Human Plane.)
Do you all care more about that egg I had then you do about a human angel sacrificing entire kingdoms? Because he is still out there..."Heeyup! For all we know this egg could be a god eater or universe eater. Kingdoms can be replaced but gods and universes can't!" :( "By the way, the angel that attacked you and tried to do the whole kingdom-sacrificing thing wasn't one of mine. I checked my links with all of them and copy-pasted their memories into me. None of them was part of the sacrifice or attacked you. I guess that's good news?" :/
"I thought they were Humans. I'll probably leave them alone once the GM sorts everything out with the weapon he forced me to sell to Neron." >:|Sure you did. Why would Tori be doing espionage in a human mountainhome?
"You seem to use that excuse a lot.""Which excuse? That they were Human? When did I ever use that excuse except rarely?"
"I didn't know it was a mountainhome. I got a report saying that some weapons-dealing was going on so I sent Tori to check it out.""I thought they were Humans. I'll probably leave them alone once the GM sorts everything out with the weapon he forced me to sell to Neron." >:|Sure you did. Why would Tori be doing espionage in a human mountainhome?
"I didn't know it was a mountainhome. I got a report saying that some weapons-dealing was going on so I sent Tori to check it out."
(Nothing. Who said anything's wrong with weapons-dealing?)Quote"I didn't know it was a mountainhome. I got a report saying that some weapons-dealing was going on so I sent Tori to check it out."
(What is wrong with weapons dealing? ???)
Philosopher: "We can achieve that by limiting the influence of all of you as gods and removing the curse old Cano proposed existed. While you gods continue to intervene in our affairs, your endless bickering also seeps into our lives. Paradise will be achievable only when those ones who interfere the most are sent away."Kli himself appears before the Philosopher, and smiles. "You have answered well. While I will say that I rarely speak to the other gods, it is true that we all feel to intervene at several points. It is why I often only Watch, preferring to let yourselves develop and grow after I offer you a few directions. Of course, I admit that I fall to a special brand of hypocrisy occasionally. True Paradise can only be attained when we have as much grip on reality as yourselves do. Kli shakes his head. "What is your Dream for yourself to accomplish, great Philosopher?"
The Pilgrim almost slips but catches the rock again and thanks you greatly upon reaching the other side.
The Monk thinks for a few moments and answer: "It does make sense, but I cannot easily resist my mortal imperfection."
"I propose that any new races must not be negatively acted upon for a minimum of 3 Ticks. That way, a new god can create their race without fear that their race will be exploited or wiped out." :)"What do you define as negative action? The proposal may need to be amended."
"Not everything has to be spelled out. I obviously mean stuff like genocided or enslaved or shipped off to live on a moon or something.""I propose that any new races must not be negatively acted upon for a minimum of 3 Ticks. That way, a new god can create their race without fear that their race will be exploited or wiped out." :)"What do you define as negative action? The proposal may need to be amended."
"Perhaps I should join you in your training Yaos. As much as I would prefer to never have to fight...""You're a dragon." -.-'
"Not everything has to be spelled out. I obviously mean stuff like genocided or enslaved or shipped off to live on a moon or something.""What about peaceful conversion, or having them obsess over something positive in such a way it lowers their productivity? Not all actions can be seen as positive or negative. Obviously, genocide et al. are off limits, but where exactly are those limits?"
"You're a dragon." -.-'"How does that have anything to do with anything? Combat training is combat training, regardless of form, and he can change it if necessary. I myself am definitely not above training, if that is available. I'm not sure how much training I can do for my rather non-standard combat style, which very much leans on my opponent being surprised by it, but direct combat is feasible to practise."
A declaration is made that everything with a Human soul - including Shinjo (Human spirits than inhabit and develop inside weapons) - fall under Yaos' sphere, and that to reject or forsake Yaos is to forsake themselves."That is a big declaration to make. What would happen if I declared that everyone who follows any code of law or lives any sort of orderly lifestyle fell under my sphere?"
"What about peaceful conversion, or having them obsess over something positive in such a way it lowers their productivity? Not all actions can be seen as positive or negative. Obviously, genocide et al. are off limits, but where exactly are those limits?""What's so bad about peaceful conversion?" ??? "If the net result is something negative for the race then it's considered negative."
"How does that have anything to do with anything? Combat training is combat training, regardless of form, and he can change it if necessary. I myself am definitely not above training, if that is available. I'm not sure how much training I can do for my rather non-standard combat style, which very much leans on my opponent being surprised by it, but direct combat is feasible to practise.""I don't want to die because I got accidentally squished by a dragon." -_-
"That is a big declaration to make. What would happen if I declared that everyone who follows any code of law or lives any sort of orderly lifestyle fell under my sphere?"
(Yaos: Your declaration directly opposes free will and cannot and will not be enforced. Where souls go depends on who they serve.)(The declaration didn't mean that they'd all be damned if they didn't worship me, it's just supposed to mean that as they decide not to worship me they do not benefit from my god powers. Pretty much as it's always been, except now it's publicly announced. How else should I have worded it? I tend to word things badly.)
The Dwarves are furious at the loss of one of their priceless weapons! Their more militant smiths have desecrated a temple of Yaos! The scientists examine the weapon and find that it is masterfully crafted and decorated. They are loathe to nick even a small portion for analysis.Can they at least tell me what it is and what it does? (I don't even know what kind of weapon it is. A sword? A spear? A gun? Other? All I know is that it's a weapon.) Wait, the dwarves had a temple of me? Why would they have a temple of me? I thought they hated me for the whole INCEPTION thing I did a while back?
Yaos spars with a Paladin at the Death Battle Plane, guarded by Minos and Lette. The Paladin is fearful of being smote for winning."Silly Paladin! I'm the god of Humans and Ambition, not Pettiness!" ;D "I fully expect you to win in a fight against me. Don't worry about it." :) "Just make sure you don't injure me or kill me, but that should be easy considering all the armour I'm wearing." ;) "But please, I need to learn how to fight, so don't be afraid to go hard on me."
"What's so bad about peaceful conversion?" ??? "If the net result is something negative for the race then it's considered negative.""Nothing is bad about it. However it could be seen as negative by the person who originally created the mortals, if the god doing so is cross-aligned. But now I understand that you indeed mean negative for the mortals, which is what I wanted to know. Your proposal can have my support."
"I don't want to die because I got accidentally squished by a dragon." -_-"I doubt you want be purposefully squished by a dragon either. I would recommend the practice, but it really is your choice. Do as you will."
"Are you calling all dragons big clumsy oafs? Besides, the form of a Mountwyrm would do just fine. Probably give me more mobility.""I don't want to accidentally hurt you and owe you more Essence. At this point in my training, I think that's likely."
"I hope your plane is nicely decorated Yaos."???
Philosopher: "I hope to find Balance in everything I do. No more, no less.""Then it shall be so, Philosopher." Kli blesses the Philosopher to gain a deeper knowledge and wisdom of Balance (on a level higher than any mortal), as well as a greater affinity for Universal magic. He also enchants in him such a way that the Philosopher gains the abilities and improvements of an angel, technically making him an individual angel of Balance with free will. "I have granted you the ability to forge your own path of Balance, therefore it is your gift as well as your challenge to seek Balance in anything you attempt with this power, from the smallest act to the greatest feat. I wish you well in your endeavours in whatever feats you would seek to achieve, whether small or great. I also hope that when the time a great tragedy truly arises, I may be able to seek you and help you in preventing the loss of life and preserving Balance." With that, Kli teleports the Philosopher to the entrance of the labyrinth, and watches to see his next actions.
Pilgrim: "I was unsatisfied with my life. There was too much of some and too little of others, so I turned to you, the first other god I have found who respects worshippers not for their usefulness but for their individual worth."
Monk: "Then I shall continue. May you reveal the path to that perfection."
Azem: You train in the DBP with the Shiny Ones. It is exhausting but quite satisfying, and they seem to have improved in dance-based combat.
All of Cim's temples have collapsed, with the rubble reading "GOD OF LIES" in the local writing system.
"A fight in Death battle plane would be preffered. The archangel is still very unfinished, I'd hate to lose it."An offer of DEATH BATTLE is offered with his archangel and Lette being the combatants. Everyone else is evacuated from the DBP.
Offer is accepted. Though I suspect Lette to win, as my archangel is curently equiped only to deal with armies."A fight in Death battle plane would be preffered. The archangel is still very unfinished, I'd hate to lose it."An offer of DEATH BATTLE is offered with his archangel and Lette being the combatants. Everyone else is evacuated from the DBP.
(What a coincidence! So is mine.)Offer is accepted. Though I suspect Lette to win, as my archangel is curently equiped only to deal with armies."A fight in Death battle plane would be preffered. The archangel is still very unfinished, I'd hate to lose it."An offer of DEATH BATTLE is offered with his archangel and Lette being the combatants. Everyone else is evacuated from the DBP.
What ever happened to Kujin?
Do not ever touch my stuff."I'll take that to mean you don't want me touching the sphere of Hunger. Fine. In exchange, you are not allowed to mess around with Humans and you are not allowed to have ambitions. If you were talking about something else, you're going to have to be more specific."
"I haven't added armor yet.""Then explain how she (I imagine your archangel is a she) managed to take the equivalent of five building-busters to the face and shrug it off like.....ooooooohhhh. Right. Forgot you're the architecture god. Makes sense now." (I literally only realised that AFTER I wrote 'building-buster'.)
"You just had to make it public didn't you?""Why not? At least this way if I get assassinated people will know who to blame. Of course, I strongly doubt that Grauel would be so evil as to sink to that level. I mean, even when we were at war we were on friendly terms. Right?"
Darruth is in a state of general disapproval of Yaos' actions at the moment.Yaos wanders at Darruth's state of general disapproval. He suspects it is because of that spear he had Tori steal, but he isn't quite sure.
"At least I can trust in your cowardice. And yet despite everything, I feel oddly protective of you.""With the new Humans I'm making on the moon, I should have a decent enough income to pay back my debt to you."
"Not to threaten you or anything, but remember what happened last time when you tried to claim stuff that belonged to the council?"I'm not sure the Konva system actually belongs to the Council. It was made by me and a few other gods via proposal. I actually spent Essence making it and besides, I'm the only one to have taken ANY interest in it at all. Just look at the proposal options for Proposal 21.00! I'm the only one who's voted in TWENTY TICKS! I'm the only one who's done ANYTHING with the the Konva system since it's creation!"
No one is realy doing anything with Fusils angels either, but you still got killed over it."It can't be. I withdrew all my claims on them prior to my death."
I'm fine with that, Yaos, although I say that the moons, at least, should be divided between the gods that created it. Of course, granted that nobody is doing anything with it except you, maybe just everyone who wants any of them who helped create them."Good point. Everyone who helped make the system gets one free moon if they claim it. Konva 1 is not for sale."
"Aren't there already Armu and Seppo living on the moons?""Nope. A couple dozen Armu were upgraded and sent to the moon, but they didn't like it so they just went back to one of the planets."
-snip-Yaos sues Grauel for talking about touching each other's "stuff" with a younger god. It was really frikkin creepy!
Well we can just keep going and going and going until neither of us has anything left because we both got a little carried away! :DThis was the worst. THE WORST.
And I have to admit that that is an absurd reason to sue someone."It felt so uncomfortable! Imagine if I started telling you that I wanted you to touch your "stuff" in exchange for you touching my "stuff"! It's REALLY creepy!"
Also create this:[/color][/glow](If you want to make it cheaper, say that its special ability runs on mana, that way you won't get burdened with an asymptotic cost.)Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Yes, that does sound strange, now that I think about it more. But still, suing is a bit extreme, don't you think? Well, presumably not, because you're suing him, but you know what I mean.And I have to admit that that is an absurd reason to sue someone."It felt so uncomfortable! Imagine if I started telling you that I wanted you to touch your "stuff" in exchange for you touching my "stuff"! It's REALLY creepy!"
You propagate the Moon Humans. There are now about a thousand.(I'd like to challenge this. It should be more than a thousand. Way back in Proposal 3.00, 8 Essence was used to create 3 million sapients - that's 375,000 sapients for 1 Essence. I understand that a discount is enacted as more Essence is spent, but a mere thousand seems paltry considering that I'm a god whose sphere is basically sapients.)
"I heard sweet singing from the sky last brightness. It spoke of killing everything!"Tol will check the mental health of the Muman to see if it's insanity, Void work, or god work. The Muman is told not to kill everything.
The wildlife seems to consist mostly of slow(Slow what?)
Proposal for naming giants and titans rejected. I don't care and I won't intervene unless someone gets too vocal.(That wasn't a petition it was a proposal. It was meant to be discussed by other gods unless you already knew that.)
Azem shakes his head at Yaos and tries not to laugh."It's not that I want something out of it, it's that it's REALLY FREAKING CREEPY!"
"So you don't mind your relative youth when you can get something out of it little brother?"
Yes, that does sound strange, now that I think about it more. But still, suing is a bit extreme, don't you think? Well, presumably not, because you're suing him, but you know what I mean.[/glow]"Well what do you suggest?"
"What is your interest in the moons Yaos? I'm curious."
"What is your interest in the moons Yaos? I'm curious.""What do you mean? I'm just selling them. What's so wrong about that?"
(EXCUSE ME? You didn't spend Essence on the system! It's not yours at all!)"What is your interest in the moons Yaos? I'm curious."
(Obviously, he just wants to steal all my stuff.)
(EXCUSE ME? You didn't spend Essence on the system! It's not yours at all!)
(Ah, but you didn't put down a flag, did you? *smug face*)Quote(EXCUSE ME? You didn't spend Essence on the system! It's not yours at all!)
(I landed on it, didn't I?)
(Ah, but you didn't put down a flag, did you? *smug face*)
(First of all, it's just one thousand at the moment (though I did challenge that ridiculously small number). Secondly, it wasn't the Humans that claimed it, IT WAS ME. Thirdly, since I have flags on the bodies and you don't, I do in fact have a claim on it. *smug* Fourthly, you only upgraded a few Armu to survive in space, so no they can't. Fifthly, just because they can land on it doesn't mean it belongs to them. I put flags on the moons first, after all. *so smug*)Quote(Ah, but you didn't put down a flag, did you? *smug face*)
(3 million + Armu can land on the moons at any time. A few thousand humans have no claim to it!)
But do you really think you can enforce that? You keep talking tough and I can't help but start to feel a little bit competitive myself."Yes, no, I know, no, no, and no. Since you paid to make the system, you get one free complimentary moon should you wish to claim one, except for Konva 1, so you can enter the system as you see fit once you claim a moon for yourself. For free."
I already helped create those things with my essence. Do you really think you can make me pay for one of those or stop me from taking a moon if I want to?
A better question. Would you actually attack me if I showed up?
(First of all, it's just one thousand at the moment (though I did challenge that ridiculously small number). Secondly, it wasn't the Humans that claimed it, IT WAS ME. Thirdly, since I have flags on the bodies and you don't, I do in fact have a claim on it. *smug* Fourthly, you only upgraded a few Armu to survive in space, so no they can't. Fifthly, just because they can land on it doesn't mean it belongs to them. I put flags on the moons first, after all. *so smug*)
(Putting an American flag in my house would not make it yours because you are not America, you do not own America, you are not the head of America, and Australia already officially claimed the area where my house is. Also, I live in an apartment, not a house, but that's just nitpicking and I refer to it as my house anyway. You didn't officially claim anything. You just sent a couple dozen Armu into space and they promptly told you it was a **** place to live, IIRC.)
Azem materializes outside of Alprozem's lair with a basket of jelly rolls.
"Some of you admitted to allowing lesser Void cults to keep the mortals from more destructive ones. That plan has failed it seems, as I just found and destroyed a cult to Shturrthafusnghepiisnsitlygh, the Coronal of the Umbrals. It might be behind the dstruction of my temples, but I will continue my investigation.""Mind sharing you found said cult? It would help the rest of us in the fight against the Void."
No. You do not deserve a reward for sending someone to go stick flags in a bunch of floating rocks. Just because others haven't used what they paid for, does not automatically allow you to call dibs on everything except for a few out of countless moons for your personal collection."Hey, it's not my fault everyone else forgot to claim ownership over the moons after they'd finished HELPING to make them."
The war is back on. No more waiting. No more stalling. No more holding back. All of my followers are now committed, not just the Gruen. All of your followers will be targeted. Only you personally will be granted any form of mercy. There is no longer any backing down. It's officially on."Stalling? I flat-out cancelled the war. Not sure what your followers are gonna think now that you're the one starting the war. They were mad over the legitimate claim that I didn't want Humans to be eaten. How do you think they're going to feel over declaring war over a bunch of space rocks that they can't even see? Or maybe it's to curb the ambition of the god of Ambition? Considering that their sense of principle over the freedom to enact their sphere I wonder if they'll make an exception for Ambition."
A massive creature has flattened much of the Human Imperial capital, killing most of the inhabitants. It seems to have absorbed their souls.((FREAKING NINJA'D! It takes TIME to respond to a declaration of war you know!))
A dimensional seal has been breached!
Tol has been struck down!
37 Yaosian Paladins have been struck down!
Two of Yaos' regulars have been struck down!
Azem: One of the children prepares some mud tea for you.
Propose that Grauel be imprisoned for breaking Part I and Part V of Anath's code. By destroying the largest centre of Human population it can be considered that he did a megadeath. The dimensional seal speaks for itself. (The ****'s a dimensional seal?)
(How does anyone get ninja'd anyway? Whenever I press post when ninja'd, it cancels and tells me that n new posts have been posted in the interim.)(Exactly! While I'm writing a response to something, more stuff happens!)
@Alprozem: "HEY ALPROZEM WANNA OWN A MOON OR TWO???"
My first task for my archangel. Find esense dragon, failing that, find gruen army suficiently away from cities/forts/other great structures. Give them a punishment of one ACTIVE hammerstrike.
QuoteMy first task for my archangel. Find esense dragon, failing that, find gruen army suficiently away from cities/forts/other great structures. Give them a punishment of one ACTIVE hammerstrike.
(That dragon took a nuke to the face and only flinched. Find something bigger?)
You threw a strike that destroyed part of a city, I throw one back. The whole touching stuff rule you disvused with Yaos earlyer. Since I owe Yaos nothing, my interference will end after that strike, unless you chose to push the matter further.Fair enough. I never actually ordered the city to be destroyed. The Dragon just has a hard time pulling punches.
I try to siphon all the Essence from the Essence Dragon.Are you suddenly the god of hunger?
Alprozem bellows back: "Why would I want to? The cheaper shinies are here!""Alright then. I gave you a chance to own more land than any mortal could ever dream of but I guess if you don't want exclusive rights to mine an entire moon's worth of minerals, it's your choice."
Are you suddenly the god of hunger?"I could well ask the same of you! When was the last time you actually did something for the good of your sphere? Several dozen Ticks ago when you were upgrading the Gruen? Pathetic."
(Yaos: Did you mean separating the §1 and §5 ones as well? That makes three proposals.)(ye)
(That's fine except for two things. One: describe why they're being accused of violating those sections of code. Two: just group them all under Yaos v. Grauel. No need to note it for every proposal.Spoiler: Lawmode (click to show/hide)
"I am rather impresed by resilence of your dragon Grauel. Mabye after your war is over and dragon no longer neccecary, my archangel and your dragon could face each other in proper combat within the Death battle plane?. In meanwhile, would there be any to help me with further combat testing? One blow is hardly suficient.""I could send Lette and Vaal to double-team your angel, but you're going to have to tell me why it's so resilient ((I tried having Lette ask me but the GM missed it I think.)) as well as pay me a pittance of 1 Essence."
Kli:Kli sends a message in a dream to the Philosopher, informing him of the other world, and the way the two are connected.
(Kli: -5E)
The Philosopher is grateful and curious. He randomly teleports all over his current world, watching many assorted people as they go about their lives.
The Pilgrim seems to be here for the thrill of the challenge and to demonstrate dedication.
The Monk observes the crystals and thinks. She touches a brilliant red crystal.
Oppose 41:02 and 41:04 "Last time we locked up a god he ended up dead. I don't trust Yaos to just let him be.""I don't think that's fair. Fusil's death was an accident and we still don't know who did it. For all we know it was another god who used the attack as a distraction to finish him off." :I "Besides, we need to punish Grauel somehow for the things he's done. You're not just going to let casual genocide go, are you?" D:
Azem creates a permanent Gem Dragon body for himself.(This'd better cost at least 4E or I'm gonna be pissed. /half joke)
That works. Though seeing as how Grauel seems to want to exterminate humans, I doubt the efectivnes of this."Cool. Lette and Vaal will join......what was her name again? Anyway, they'll join your archangel in the DBP shortly once they've finished doing what they're doing." :)
Tell Golems to build a temple of Yaos in all Golem and Gremlin cities for traveling worshipers to pray in.
Grauel must be punished for his crimes, but the death of Fusil is a clear sign that something other than locking gods up must happen.Oppose 41:02 and 41:04 "Last time we locked up a god he ended up dead. I don't trust Yaos to just let him be.""I don't think that's fair. Fusil's death was an accident and we still don't know who did it. For all we know it was another god who used the attack as a distraction to finish him off." :I "Besides, we need to punish Grauel somehow for the things he's done. You're not just going to let casual genocide go, are you?" D:
Grauel must be punished for his crimes, but the death of Fusil is a clear sign that something other than locking gods up must happen."What about his ability to gain or spend Essence? We could freeze that for a while. It's a bit minor, so maybe we should also prevent him from communicating with others? He'd still be able to run away from danger and his angels will be able to protect him as a default action, but besides that he wouldn't be able to harm anyone. That's a good punishment I think. He gets stopped from doing more bad stuff AND he doesn't die!" :D
A Hummingbird is asked the question: "If a giant dead god space dragon made of Essence drops into the most populated Human city in the world, is that Balance?""I do not take sides, Yaos. However, I do know that the Hummingbirds help those in need whenever possible.
"Removing his ability to talk will leave him without the power to warn us if he is being attacked and all of Fusil`s angels were unable to protect him last time. Why should I think it will be different this time?.Grauel must be punished for his crimes, but the death of Fusil is a clear sign that something other than locking gods up must happen."What about his ability to gain or spend Essence? We could freeze that for a while. It's a bit minor, so maybe we should also prevent him from communicating with others? He'd still be able to run away from danger and his angels will be able to protect him as a default action, but besides that he wouldn't be able to harm anyone. That's a good punishment I think. He gets stopped from doing more bad stuff AND he doesn't die!" :D
I see that you two are going at it again... Why can't you two just be agreeable and not murder each other?
"He could still jump from plane to plane. He needs to be punished and this will method will what will least likely involve his death, unless you have any better ideas. Hmmmm........what about if a random god's angels are chosen to help guard the god as well? That way, if an attempt is made on Grauel's life, the.....*lexicon search* 'political repercussions' of attacking TWO gods will prevent someone from carrying out the attack!" :D "Good idea, right?""Removing his ability to talk will leave him without the power to warn us if he is being attacked and all of Fusil`s angels were unable to protect him last time. Why should I think it will be different this time?.Grauel must be punished for his crimes, but the death of Fusil is a clear sign that something other than locking gods up must happen."What about his ability to gain or spend Essence? We could freeze that for a while. It's a bit minor, so maybe we should also prevent him from communicating with others? He'd still be able to run away from danger and his angels will be able to protect him as a default action, but besides that he wouldn't be able to harm anyone. That's a good punishment I think. He gets stopped from doing more bad stuff AND he doesn't die!" :D
I see that you two are going at it again... Why can't you two just be agreeable and not murder each other?"When he started the war he said that he's specifically NOT going to attack me and I've been trying to find a way to punish him that doesn't result in his death. I'd say you did a mission accomplished there." ;D
Hello. Someone attempted to assassinate me while I was asleep, just so you know. It failed."Description of the attacker or attackers, please? It wasn't me, by the way."
"Rather than a random god, I would prefer if maybe all of us contribute to one council controlled, prison keeper angel, that way anyone trying to kill a god will go to war with the entire council."He could still jump from plane to plane. He needs to be punished and this will method will what will least likely involve his death, unless you have any better ideas. Hmmmm........what about if a random god's angels are chosen to help guard the god as well? That way, if an attempt is made on Grauel's life, the.....*lexicon search* 'political repercussions' of attacking TWO gods will prevent someone from carrying out the attack!" :D "Good idea, right?""Removing his ability to talk will leave him without the power to warn us if he is being attacked and all of Fusil`s angels were unable to protect him last time. Why should I think it will be different this time?.Grauel must be punished for his crimes, but the death of Fusil is a clear sign that something other than locking gods up must happen."What about his ability to gain or spend Essence? We could freeze that for a while. It's a bit minor, so maybe we should also prevent him from communicating with others? He'd still be able to run away from danger and his angels will be able to protect him as a default action, but besides that he wouldn't be able to harm anyone. That's a good punishment I think. He gets stopped from doing more bad stuff AND he doesn't die!" :D
"Rather than a random god, I would prefer if maybe all of us contribute to one council controlled, prison keeper angel, that way anyone trying to kill a god will go to war with the entire council.Support
"Didn't I already suggest something similar? Except not confined to merely guarding criminals."I think so, but no one supported it for some reason.
"Description of the attacker or attackers, please? It wasn't me, by the way."Able to teleport and shoot. I managed to dodge the attack, but they teleported away faster than I could look.
Yaos, why are you so so hesitant to just try fighting me yourself instead of going through the council?
Yaos has been struck down!
Claiming the whole Keshan system is still extreme in my eyes."I agree. Taking an entire solar system is way to extreme. Thankfully, I'm just claiming the Konvan gas giant system."
Ideally I'd think they should be shared just as the council made planets are. Where we can all place races there and have them interact amongst themselves."That's a thing that could happen, but the other gods will have to pay some Essence if they want that to go down." :)
And don't touch my ability to use essence or control my angels. I'd rather not get stabbed like the rest of you are lately. I don't trust any of you at all, no offense. Not just because people keep getting picked off but because you all seem fairly incapable of defending yourselves, forget others."Your angels would still defend you and move around with you. You just won't be able to tell them to do assassinations or more genocides like you are now."
"Hardly anybody even voted on it. Maybe two or three gods.""Hardly any gods vote on any proposals anyway (except me - I vote on all of them). Was it even in the Proposals list?"
Shoot what?"Description of the attacker or attackers, please? It wasn't me, by the way."Able to teleport and shoot. I managed to dodge the attack, but they teleported away faster than I could look.
"Where were you one tick ago when I wasted esense creating weapons all on my own? Other than that, welcome back. I'll vote for you geting your stuff back, though I would dissagree with imprisoning Yaos. He was punished in another way, his revival decreased his power in more than half, he also lost his Emperor. "
"That is not your decision god of weapons."
"I will happily see Serac and Cim punished for their crimes, but a retrial for Yaos is a waste of time."
"And how can we believe anything you say?"
"Hey, I did not vote for your imprisonment. I voted to keep your angels able to defend you, and that was all. And which of his angels is the one suposedly "Uber"?"
"My fellow divinities, I do believe Fusil still has a sentence to serve. Should've we show him back to his old cell?"
"I had revived immediately, and finished my sentence. This was the turn that I was to be let out. Do you honestly think I have the power to deal thirteen points of essence so easily?""Remember that one time when you nuked Cim for 12? You probably just had some Void garbage to help you this time!"
"My fellow divinities, I do believe Fusil still has a sentence to serve. Should've we show him back to his old cell?"... I thought he did his time? That's why he took so long to come back. And you were willing to let dying serve as Yaos's punishment...
"I don't care anymore. You are a threat to this council that must be removed."
... I thought he did his time? That's why he took so long to come back. And you were willing to let dying serve as Yaos's punishment...
Hello Fusil! Welcome back! Don't attack any gods this time, okay?
And it was hardly three armies, it was Yaos's army, a handful of Cim's angels and two of my angels.
If it is confirmed Yaos killed Fusil, does that mean me and Cim are not able to be punished for murder?
"Yes, there is quite an interesting question here. Fusil, how did you die?"
"That is an EXCELLENT question! I was there at that battle! The Yaosian forces were all fighting STF, as were Serac's. Only Cim's forces were not present in the battle. Maybe THEY did it!"
"Tory! Go port to Jeffrey's location! He should be here, I think he's in trouble!"
Seeing as Fusil is the one who actually died, I would recommend waiting until Fusil has said anything before flinging out accusation."Oh yes. Dying. Maybe a recommendation can be made to wait until Yaos says something before we OH WE CANNOT BECAUSE HE IS DEAD. Oh. I'm sorry. I'm usually far more composed. I'm just a little bit absolutely livid."
"Yaos's Angel, you have no right to speak to the council in your God's stead. In any case, Cim didn't benefit from it, and seemed to genuinely have a wicked plan for my Angels. His plan was canceled when I was killed, but Yaos had gained thirteen essence. Is there any doubt who the true culprit it?""He was searching for Artisanii. He had reason to suspect that Tykki had knowledge of Artisanii's location and wanted to interrogate her. For all we knew she would have sacrificed him to revive you. When she died Yaos stopped asking for her. It was unlikely the other angels considering their low rank and as far as I can see you are the only one with confirmed Void relations."
Tory has jumped to Jeffrey's location. Jeffrey seems to be sleeping. There are open books about Human sleeping patterns scattered about."Thank goodness. Let him sleep a little longer. I'll wake him in a bit."
I assume you already have Tykki back? If not, where did she go?(She randomly disappeared while in Council custody.)
I assume you already have Tykki back? If not, where did she go?
"Oh yes. Dying. Maybe a recommendation can be made to wait until Yaos says something before we OH WE CANNOT BECAUSE HE IS DEAD. Oh. I'm sorry. I'm usually far more composed. I'm just a little bit absolutely livid."
"He was searching for Artisanii. He had good reason that Tykki had knowledge of Artisanii's location and wanted her to interrogate her. For all we knew she would have sacrificed him to revive you. When she died Yaos stopped asking for her. It was unlikely the other angels considering their low rank and as far as I can see you are the only one with confirmed Void relations."
"You broke council law. You attacked two gods. And you displayed appalling arrogance throughout the whole ordeal. Forgetting everything else, the simple fact of the matter is that we can't trust you anymore than we can trust Cim or Yaos."
"I could kill you right now and nobody would care. The God of Hunger could easily wipe you all out now, without your god to protect you.""I'd say it's more accurate we were protecting him and really, I think you should be more worried about us. We're not gods so we're not bound by god rules. If we want to destroy your temples and punish your followers, we can. Of course, we're good people. We'd never do that! Yaos especially would not want that and with or without her memory, we won't."
"And then I spent six ticks in a prison.""You spent one or two at most."
"Anyways, there seems to be an unerving increase of teleportating backstabing assassins that target more active gods. Nobody would know anything abaut them, would you?""Yaos has had Tory teleporting all over the place on assignments. None of the rest of us can teleport like that. The Not-Emperor's text was green when he struck down Yaos if that helps any."
Yaos's angel, you didn't explain how Yaos gained the 13 essence... And he is dead. Are we expecting him to return?'She didn't gain 13 Essence, she only gained 5. 5+8=13. I've got no idea how she gained that Essence though. Jeffrey was asleep at the time, I and Lette were in the Human Plane, the rest were in the DBP......I've got no idea."
(Jeffrey is still uncontrollable for some reason.)(Made me have to change colours for everything. :P Some of the dialogue above may not be representative of Vaal's speech patterns and such.)
"I claim Jeffry as my own, as his God is dead. He currently rules the Humans, allowing me to implement new laws tearing down the old ones. First, the Inquisition is abolished and replaced with normal city guards. The Paladins are stripped of all their titles and their weapons are given to the military, while they are given a knife in return. Yaos worship will be slowly replaced by that of the other gods."AS TEMPORARY ANGEL-EMPEROR OF MANKIND I VETO THIS. This is your last warning, Fusil. Remember, there's no rule saying that an angel cannot seek the death of a god, unless the Council disagrees....."
Any advice for me Jeffry?"
"I'd say it's more accurate we were protecting him and really, I think you should be more worried about us. We're not gods so we're not bound by god rules. If we want to destroy your temples and punish your followers, we can. Of course, we're good people. We'd never do that! Yaos especially would not want that and with or without her memory, we won't."
"Yaos has had Tory teleporting all over the place on assignments. None of the rest of us can teleport like that. The Not-Emperor's text was green when he struck down Yaos if that helps any."
"AS TEMPORARY ANGEL-EMPEROR OF MANKIND I VETO THIS. This is your last warning, Fusil. Remember, there's no rule saying that an angel cannot seek the death of a god, unless the Council disagrees....."
"AS TEMPORARY ANGEL-EMPEROR OF MANKIND I VETO THIS. This is your last warning, Fusil. Remember, there's no rule saying that an angel cannot seek the death of a god, unless the Council disagrees....."
III. Thou Shall Not Force Mortals To Worship You
III. Thou Shall Not Force Mortals To Worship You
Kli:Kli continues to watch the Philosopher's actions once he begins to start using his powers.
The Philosopher jumps to Slytha after a few misses and begins exploring. He is captivated by the massive differences between the two worlds and the relative absence of the gods' influence on this world.
The Pilgrim begins thinking and takes out a knife. Unfortunately, the knife is neither hard enough nor sharp enough to cut any glass.
The Monk sees a band of imperial raiders razing her village and slaughtering the inhabitants. She stomps in rage.
I must ask, though; how do you know of which gods have made what deals with the Void? And are you still so violently opposed to it?
I disagree vehemently."Then we will not. Yaos was making preparations to befriend you once you became active again. Yaos never demanded worship of herself anyway, so you can rest assured that nothing will change in that department. Besides, it was just an empty threat anyway."
"Let me preempt you on that Fusil. I claim the humans as my children, same as the Mountwyrms or any other. Want to come work for me Jeffrey?""We can definitely mercenary work for you until Yaos is revived. All you'd have to do is protect us from other gods. Deal?"
"It was a joke, on how Yaos stole all my stuff. But I don't appreciate being threatened. Tykki, kill this Angel.""Not yet, Fusil. Not yet."
"It was a joke, as I said before. Jeffry isn't a mortal anyway, as he is an immortal angel.""And the threat I gave was empty. As for mortality, that's always been very nebulous when it came to angels."
I would like to work on disbanding the Inquisition; I will assist you in dismantling Yaos' empire, if you wish, Fusil, so long as we do so by moral means. His Inquisition constituted a grievous violation of many rights and workings."As secular ruler of the Empire, I will veto this. The Inquisition is not as bad as you think, and it has become much more ethically better ever since Gruen worship was legalised and the laws against Void cults was loosened. If you'll remember, Yaos campaigned to have Fusil brought back to life after her own death."
I know we've had our differences in the past. But if you look at the Records of Time, I was furious when you were killed. And I was actually planning on attempting to revive you soon enough, though obviously it's no longer necessary.
"As for the humans, they where born of the Council so back to the Council they will go.""They were born of Azem. The Council merely propagated them."
I even found the God of Hunger's war on Yaos to be just and righteous!"Since when is genocide a just response to claiming a mere QUARTER of something Yaos helped pay for? Yaos paid for one sixth of the project like the other gods, and one has since gone inactive. He should be entitled to only a fifth, which is something I agree with. But then, he was giving five of those moons away so maybe it balances out."
Vaal, I have had human towns come to me for protection after being abused by your Inquisition's practices! That alone says something about the institution!"WHAT!? Give me a copy of the reports if you may. I've received no news of such practices, but that is probably to be expected. I'll disband them immediately if I have proof."
Hmmm. That is not quite true; Yaos wanted to make a new Fusil, not revive the old one, if I remember correctly.
(Re shiny text: You mean the buggy planewreck of JS I'm still debugging on and off?)(Never mind then. It wasn't a proposal veto, it was just supposed to mean that he'll resist non-divine attempts at destroying the Inquisition.)
(The ability of non-gods to veto godly actions is very, very limited.)
Oh, that is not good."And one of these things was guarding Fusil's prison. A bit suspicious, no?"
These jelly roll creatures seem to be rather, well...hostile to everything we know of, it seems like.
I'm calling off my attack. Seems pointless now."Thank you."
Recall all my units.
"Then we will not. Yaos was making preparations to befriend you once you became active again. Yaos never demanded worship of herself anyway, so you can rest assured that nothing will change in that department. Besides, it was just an empty threat anyway."
"Not yet, Fusil. Not yet."
"And the threat I gave was empty. As for mortality, that's always been very nebulous when it came to angels."
"As secular ruler of the Empire, I will veto this. The Inquisition is not as bad as you think, and it has become much more ethically better ever since Gruen worship was legalised and the laws against Void cults was loosened. If you'll remember, Yaos campaigned to have Fusil brought back to life after her own death."
That does seem the most fair plan to both Gods and Humans, Fusil...can I ask why you are so opposed to the Void?
I have been speaking with them, in an attempt to gain knowledge and determine it's Goodness if nothing else, and find that though I may be being deceived, I can see little flatly Evil about them. And little truly Good, but that is to be expected.
"Since when is genocide a just response to claiming a mere QUARTER of something Yaos helped pay for? Yaos paid for one sixth of the project like the other gods, and one has since gone inactive. He should be entitled to only a fifth, which is something I agree with. But then, he was giving five of those moons away so maybe it balances out."
"And one of these things was guarding Fusil's prison. A bit suspicious, no?"
I even found the God of Hunger's war on Yaos to be just and righteous!"Since when is genocide a just response to claiming a mere QUARTER of something Yaos helped pay for? Yaos paid for one sixth of the project like the other gods, and one has since gone inactive. He should be entitled to only a fifth, which is something I agree with. But then, he was giving five of those moons away so maybe it balances out."
Though I did find his murder of several hundreds of thousands of humans reprehensible...[/i][/color]
Vaal, I have had human towns come to me for protection after being abused by your Inquisition's practices! That alone says something about the institution!"WHAT!? Give me a copy of the reports if you may. I've received no news of such practices, but that is probably to be expected. I'll disband them immediately if I have proof."
Hmmm. That is not quite true; Yaos wanted to make a new Fusil, not revive the old one, if I remember correctly.
"He wanted to make the new Fusil exactly as the old one with all his memories and personality. This was her objective over straight reviving because it was believed that a corpse is necessary for reviving. Apparently, that is not the case."
I also propose that we build (not rebuild - build) Fusil, the god of Weapons. We can't repair what doesn't exist but we can perhaps give a new god existence and life if we all put some Essence into it. As for his personality and memories......WE ARE GODS. WE DO WHAT WE WANT. BECAUSE. WE CAN."[/glow][/color]
A human town has decided to turn to you after losing a beloved priest to Yaos' vengeance. They beg you for protection.
It appears that they are fearful after Yaos casually killed their priest for refusing to accept a potentially corrupting gift. They are terrified of the Inquisition's retaliation and have lynched several Inquisitors in the panic and have razed Yaos' temple. The people beg for protection.
I would appreciate not being called an idiot for attempting to gain some sort of understanding of just what we're going up against; have you a better idea of ways to learn of them? I have considered making a Void capable Angel.
But I ask, are there not cults present here that kill people already? As the God of Weapons, you surely know that the primary purpose of a weapon is to kill. I do not believe all of the Void itself to be Evil in such a fashion as you claim, but neither will I deny that it is certainly present. I can, however, accept your reasoning, if they threaten your followers. I must say, though, one of them asked me to revive you, so...
The Philosopher has disguised himself as a young child and is wandering around the Slythan Tree.Kli (indirectly) leads several different Slythan Hummingbirds into his path.
The Pilgrim begins hitting the glass again in an attempt to play some music while whistling.
The Monk touches the dark purple stone.
"It was a joke. The ties between Angels and Gods are harder to break then that. It was impossible. And if it was an empty threat, why are you hiding?""You sicked your archangel on me, but I'm not hiding per se. I just don't want to deal with an angry god if I were to permanently kill his favourite archangel. Let her come at me here! She's no match for my raw speed, let alone my Black Step technique."
"Me coming back to life is what killed him. If I had come back under his orders, it might not have. Isn't that the reason he had campaigned to bring me back after he is the one who killed me?""Unlikely. If that was the case - and I still say he would not have made such a deal - he would've attempted to revive you even before he died. She only decided to resurrect you after she had her change of heart from her own death."
"Yaos killed me, took control of the moons and my stuff. As the God of Hunger said, it was more than that that lead to his overzealous attacks.""The Council took your angels. You and they appeared to be permanently dead when the weapons were taken and when Yaos found out the angels were alive, no one asked for the weapons so she kept them. Yaos only took control of roughly her fair share of the moon and willing to give away those shares for free if the other gods merely asked. 'Overzealous' is putting it lightly."
"That was the Killer warning me of the deal you made.""Sure."
Perhaps I misinterpreted that last part. As far as I could tell, it meant giving him a new personality and memories."You did misinterpret the last part. Yaos was always of the belief that gods could do the impossible simply because they were gods. She didn't know any non-impossibility-breakable ways to bring back Fusil's memories and personality so she just went with her 'because we're gods' excuse. A bit naive if I do say so myself but that's Yaos."
"I will not disband the Inquisition. The Inquisition is a Keshan instrument against Void cultists and is controlled by the Empire of Mankind. The Inquisition that did those things is NOT the Keshan Inquisition. It was the private inquisition belonging to a hugely overzealous empress in Slythan."Quote from: Palatino's ReportsA human town has decided to turn to you after losing a beloved priest to Yaos' vengeance. They beg you for protection.
It appears that they are fearful after Yaos casually killed their priest for refusing to accept a potentially corrupting gift. They are terrified of the Inquisition's retaliation and have lynched several Inquisitors in the panic and have razed Yaos' temple. The people beg for protection.
Finally, Vaal, the fact that one of Yaos' angels turned into one of these things, after his Angel-Emperor turned against him...it does not speak well of him."It was NOT the Emperor that killed Yaos. That imposter was slain on the spot by Lette after its action. The TRUE Emperor's corpse was found outside the capital. It had been decomposing there for several weeks. The fact that he has been targeted by the Void means that she was their enemy. You can still accuse Yaos if you want to do some victim-blaming. I won't like it if you do, though."
I have doubts as to an Orb which only enhances ambition being able to bring stability and peace on it's own.(I just wanted to get out a post quickly.)
"Perhaps. But no more than any other non-Human race. When I created the Humans, I envisioned a versatile people unchained from the shackles of godly sphere."Vaal smiles.
"'Overzealous' is putting it lightly."Consider how many lives have been lost in the conflicts between Gruen and Humans already. Consider the deaths caused by the Inquisition crushing cultists that they felt were dangerous or went too far against the Empire. While Yaos and I may not have actively enjoyed causing death, neither one of us were ever so concerned with it that we would let it get in the way of our objectives. Even after Yaos wanted to stop the war and even after he cut back on cult persecution, it was only a little while after that he forcibly claimed moons. Putting aside momentarily whether or not he had a right to them, Yaos said he would use force if anyone went against his wishes. So yes. I was willing to use force just like Yaos was willing.
"You sicked your archangel on me, but I'm not hiding per se. I just don't want to deal with an angry god if I were to permanently kill his favourite archangel. Let her come at me here! She's no match for my raw speed, let alone my Black Step technique."
"Unlikely. If that was the case - and I still say he would not have made such a deal - he would've attempted to revive you even before he died. She only decided to resurrect you after she had her change of heart from her own death."
"The Council took your angels. You and they appeared to be permanently dead when the weapons were taken and when Yaos found out the angels were alive, no one asked for the weapons so she kept them. Yaos only took control of roughly her fair share of the moon and willing to give away those shares for free if the other gods merely asked. 'Overzealous' is putting it lightly."
Where did these books obtain the information? Someone had to write them. And if they speak of the Void as to give you the impression that is antithesis to all that is Good, then how do you know they don't lie? A book is only as honest as it's author. And as for not corrupting anything...you know this how? What if a book was written by one of the Void Beings?
But very well. If you have these books, allow me to read them, and perhaps I will be 'shown the light' of your way of thinking, eh?
They are not directly involved, perhaps, but the trade has to do with their sheer number, and instead of being involved in fighting, they benefit from it by acting as arms dealers and enabling massive loss of life.
I cannot truly tell what their end-goals are, actually. It was called a Watcher; whether that meant it wanted to see more violence, or keep it from growing, I cannot tell.
How do you know the books are not corrupting you themselves? You seem to place a great deal of stock on presumably mortal writings.
The fact remains that Jeffrey was corrupted, and that Fusil claims Yaos made a deal with the Void, and that Yaos died for a reason we do not yet know.Finally, Vaal, the fact that one of Yaos' angels turned into one of these things, after his Angel-Emperor turned against him...it does not speak well of him."It was NOT the Emperor that killed Yaos. That imposter was slain on the spot by Lette after its action. The TRUE Emperor's corpse was found outside the capital. It had been decomposing there for several weeks. The fact that he has been targeted by the Void means that she was their enemy. You can still accuse Yaos if you want to do some victim-blaming. I won't like it if you do, though."
Your Tykki can scan me if she wishes; I have not been corrupted by the Void. If the Void is Evil, it is literally my antithesis, and as such I am likely immune or at least resistant to such corruption.QuoteI cannot truly tell what their end-goals are, actually. It was called a Watcher; whether that meant it wanted to see more violence, or keep it from growing, I cannot tell.
"You talked to it knowing nothing? Are you trying to fall?"
You are making many assumptions, particularly about Tykki's infallibility. Besides which, multiple books may mean they are all wrong. And besides that, they would have had to gain their knowledge from somewhere; either by observing those cults formed around the few Void beings that managed to establish cults in their worlds(and would be noticeable mostly by the harm they did, as those cults that did no such things would not be discovered nearly so easily, thus skewing the data), or by conversing with the Void. And if the Void lies...well, how can you trust anything the books say either? And where did they come from, if they were originally from other Bubbles? How did they get to ours? Via the Void?QuoteWhere did these books obtain the information? Someone had to write them. And if they speak of the Void as to give you the impression that is antithesis to all that is Good, then how do you know they don't lie? A book is only as honest as it's author. And as for not corrupting anything...you know this how? What if a book was written by one of the Void Beings?
"Other Bubbles, mostly mortal authors. I can fact check myself, there are multiple books. The Void Beings have their own language, I have a book on it. Any book capable of corrupting would have to be written in it and radiating void energies, which Tykki can detect."
"I refuse. My books are all tightly guarded by me personally, after the library was raided they have become comparatively rare. Get your own."Then make copies of them, and allow me to peruse the copies. If you believe it will take Essence, I will even gift you with a single Essence in return for them, if they do cost such. Surely you cannot object to me trying to gain knowledge in the manner that you propose I do so? Unless, of course, these books do not contain the information you say they do, which will be the only conclusion left me should you refuse.
"You cannot blame the weapon or its salesman for the conflict. The loss of life would happen in any case, they are not even elevating it as most noticeable loss-of-life has been caused by the Gods. The swords, save for a few void-tainted ones, do not cause the wielder to do their actions."One does not place a knife into the hands of a man prone to fits of anger. One does not taunt an alcoholic with wine. It is enabling violence, and heightening it, though I cannot argue with the second part. Swords do not cause the act of violence; but a man in fury with a blade in hand is far more likely to kill the target of his anger than a man in fury with no weapon at all.QuoteI cannot truly tell what their end-goals are, actually. It was called a Watcher; whether that meant it wanted to see more violence, or keep it from growing, I cannot tell.
I believe the townsmen have a different view of the situation, and I find it difficult to place my trust in anyone these days, as of right now.I have doubts as to an Orb which only enhances ambition being able to bring stability and peace on it's own.(I just wanted to get out a post quickly.)
"The Orb also increases the person's best attribute. Whether that's natural charisma, magical ability, fighting skill, anything. Since priests are good at talking to people and being generally good people Yaos had faith that he could sort out the empire in a peaceful manner with the Orb's help."
"Yaos claimed a mere quarter of a moon. With Anath in stasis, he was realistically claiming just over a sixth of the moons assuming the other gods just asked for their moons. Please don't compare the accidental deaths of a few Human-eating or Human-killing cultists to a straight-out genocidal attack. At least yaos tried to rectify that issue."
Consider how many lives have been lost in the conflicts between Gruen and Humans already. Consider the deaths caused by the Inquisition crushing cultists that they felt were dangerous or went too far against the Empire. While Yaos and I may not have actively enjoyed causing death, neither one of us were ever so concerned with it that we would let it get in the way of our objectives. Even after Yaos wanted to stop the war and even after he cut back on cult persecution, it was only a little while after that he forcibly claimed moons. Putting aside momentarily whether or not he had a right to them, Yaos said he would use force if anyone went against his wishes. So yes. I was willing to use force just like Yaos was willing.
Death wasn't the objective. It was an unfortunate side effect of me sending the Dragon to disrupt the Empire's forces in the Capital. A situation not too different from how killing wasn't Yaos's objective when he sent out the inquisition on various cults. These were simply side effects of another goal.
"I am about to get them back right now. Taking them in the first place, after being the one to kill me, already angers me enough. The Hungry one was right about you grabbing for power in every way.""He grabbed barely more power than he was owed, and that's only because another god is in stasis and won't claim his moon. She was also in the midst of giving you everything she took when she was killed. She was going to vote to release your angels and give back your weapons. We could only comply with the last order."
"Would he? I don't believe that he would. You think highly of that corrupted god. He is dead, you must realize this.""She tries to save your life. Blamed for your death. She tries to locate a possible sacrificial god. Called greedy. Gives up claim on the angels. Some kind of plot. She tries to bring you back to life. Obviously a Void plot. Tries to give back your angels and your weapons. KILLED. What happened to her was unjust."
The point wasn't the moons it was that Yaos was willing to use force to get what he wanted. Or at least the pretense of force. I highly doubt there have only been a few deaths at the hands of the Empire's inquisitors and yes Yaos made some attempts to make peace or improvements at several points. Considering that I pulled back my forces instead of finishing off what I started, I think it could be said I am not completely heartless myself though."It was less her using force to get what she wanted and more her using force to keep what she owned. There have indeed been more than a few dead at the hands of the Inquisitors. A lot of cults had been established and executions were a punishment levied against more than a few particularly evil cultists. Accidental killings went waaaaaaay down after blackjacks were introduced, as anticipated."
Your Tykki can scan me if she wishes; I have not been corrupted by the Void. If the Void is Evil, it is literally my antithesis, and as such I am likely immune or at least resistant to such corruption.
You are making many assumptions, particularly about Tykki's infallibility. Besides which, multiple books may mean they are all wrong. And besides that, they would have had to gain their knowledge from somewhere; either by observing those cults formed around the few Void beings that managed to establish cults in their worlds(and would be noticeable mostly by the harm they did, as those cults that did no such things would not be discovered nearly so easily, thus skewing the data), or by conversing with the Void. And if the Void lies...well, how can you trust anything the books say either? And where did they come from, if they were originally from other Bubbles? How did they get to ours? Via the Void?
Then make copies of them, and allow me to peruse the copies. If you believe it will take Essence, I will even gift you with a single Essence in return for them, if they do cost such. Surely you cannot object to me trying to gain knowledge in the manner that you propose I do so? Unless, of course, these books do not contain the information you say they do, which will be the only conclusion left me should you refuse.
One does not place a knife into the hands of a man prone to fits of anger. One does not taunt an alcoholic with wine. It is enabling violence, and heightening it, though I cannot argue with the second part. Swords do not cause the act of violence; but a man in fury with a blade in hand is far more likely to kill the target of his anger than a man in fury with no weapon at all.
I have no intention of putting it to the test, believe me. I would much rather be right and never know it, in this case, then be wrong, and find out the hard way. And with how often I've been wrong lately(it really is getting distressing)...QuoteYour Tykki can scan me if she wishes; I have not been corrupted by the Void. If the Void is Evil, it is literally my antithesis, and as such I am likely immune or at least resistant to such corruption.
"That is a dangerous belief, though I assume that if you have any obvious void corruption you would be able to hide it."
"Why would Tykki fail to notice something powerful enough to corrupt even a God? I have accounts on all cults, at least I think I do, meaning we have a variety of information to pull from. There are plenty of sources who did not communicate with the void in any way. No, it is likely an effect of the Godly Library, which has always had books from other bubbles."A good point. Though I mean less in the sense of directly corrupting you, and more in the sense of the books themselves having corrupt data. But this makes sense. I can accept it. Though I do not know why a source which did not have anything to do with the Void would be a reliable source of information on said Void...it would be, ah, like expecting a bowmaker who had never held a sword to be able to tell you how to smith one, no?
"That is not a bad idea. I will have my mortal servants copy down books on any subject you request, though be aware many of the more useful books still mysteriously vanish in transit."Unfortunate, but to be expected. Any and all information would be desirable; if books are lost in transit, we might repeat their sending, and in this way, find exactly which ones do so, which may tell us something, no?
"Why not? Call him a beserker and throw him to the front line. If he is prone to anger, allow him to express that in a way that supports the greater good. It is neither enabling or heightening violence, it is only profiting from it. There is no reason that would be wrong. We currently have no medical technology, a good hit with a fist is just as likely to kill someone as a good hit with a blade. Especially if that is an Armu, Golem, or other non-human creature doing the punching."We don't?!? But...oh Goodness, I was fooled by my own priests, since they were able to heal! This must be rectified at once!
A good point. Though I mean less in the sense of directly corrupting you, and more in the sense of the books themselves having corrupt data. But this makes sense. I can accept it. Though I do not know why a source which did not have anything to do with the Void would be a reliable source of information on said Void...it would be, ah, like expecting a bowmaker who had never held a sword to be able to tell you how to smith one, no?
Unfortunate, but to be expected. Any and all information would be desirable; if books are lost in transit, we might repeat their sending, and in this way, find exactly which ones do so, which may tell us something, no?
Actually, I would like to try something. Vaal, would you like to fight a few of my Angels in that plane? I would like to see how they do in combat against a being of significant power."I'm flattered, but keep in mind that I'm fused with Lette. Before I fight you I have some inquiries to make. If my inquiry is successful, I'll have to ask for some Essence in exchange for the fight."
"The Seppo can do that. No hands."Holding does not require hands. Unless they do not possess the tactile sensation, either?
"I am not about to make a copy of every book I have created. If you want specific information, I will grant a book-copy on it to you."
Holding does not require hands. Unless they do not possess the tactile sensation, either?
I do not know what information to request, without having information about the void. If there are any general summaries or guidebooks to the Void, they would be helpful to start.
42.00, 42.07: "Oppose, for now. I wouldn't give a man a knife until I knew he wasn't going to use it to stab me."
42.01.a, 42.02, 42.026: "I would like to say that I was already tried and acquitted for my hand in Fusil's death. A retrial is frivolous."
42.00, 42.07: "Oppose, for now. I wouldn't give a man a knife until I knew he wasn't going to use it to stab me."(Where are these proposals from? Could you send me a link?)
42.01.a, 42.02, 42.026: "I would like to say that I was already tried and acquitted for my hand in Fusil's death. A retrial is frivolous."
"So, Fusil? Do you want to fight me or not? I'm waiting. I'd be awfully disappointed if you chose not to show yourself."
"You are the one who took them from me. Give them back.""I can't and wouldn't. The Council has them, and I have enough assassins after me to choose to oppose your proposal."
"The God of Law, avoiding excess law? You know that last trial was a farce.""It was. There was and is no valid accusation against me except a generalized report that I had a part in your death. And I did, in the way that I attacked a legally allowed target for my own reasons, which happened to coincide by another, direct attack by someone else."
"I have no reason to fight you in the False Fight Field. Even killing you there would be a pointless victory, Tykki would only waste her valuable time. Well, I should probably think about taking all the souls in the Human Plane and the 'Shadow Realm' he thinks we didn't know about and put them back on the planets, then destroy the planes. They are pointless now."(What the hell! I challenge this! There is NO way you'd know about the Shadow Realm IC! The only reason I didn't make that secret action over PM was to spare the GM a bit of time! It was still a SECRET ACTION!)
((Yeah, metagaming isn't cool, bro))"I have no reason to fight you in the False Fight Field. Even killing you there would be a pointless victory, Tykki would only waste her valuable time. Well, I should probably think about taking all the souls in the Human Plane and the 'Shadow Realm' he thinks we didn't know about and put them back on the planets, then destroy the planes. They are pointless now."(What the hell! I challenge this! There is NO way you'd know about the Shadow Realm IC! The only reason I didn't make that secret action over PM was to spare the GM a bit of time! It was still a SECRET ACTION!)
(There are secret actions in the IC thread? This is the first I have heard of such a thing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect).)((I use it on purpose to make things seem greater than they are by giving minimal information))
((Yeah, metagaming isn't cool, bro))
(Yes. One. I created the Shadow Realm as a secret action but I put it in the IC thread to see if it might spare a bit of your time. With all the complications it created I decided not to do something like that again but it should still have been a secret action. None of the gods should know about it besides Yaos.)
(Look, I even explicitly said it multiple times in OOC text next to it that it was a secret action. Please can an exception be made just this once? Everyone's been playing as if they didn't know it existed anyway, and I'd rather not have all that ruined just because Stirk wanted to do some metagaming.)
((Come on, Stirk. Just let me have this.))
(What does 'pretty much' mean? That you got a clue and figured it out on yourself? I suggest you share it with the GM to see if you figured it out properly instead of using metagaming.)
"Varee, please return Jeffrey immediately. I know it was you."
(Ah.)Quote"Varee, please return Jeffrey immediately. I know it was you."
(I think he means the Human body, not Jeffrey)
As I said, it asked to revive me as to kill Yaos. His end goal was violence, which you seem to think is bad. They are twisted lairs, as I said do not listen to them! This is why you rely on books instead!"
Did none of you notice? Fusil admited he dealt with the void...
At least now I know how he revived. What did you have to promise them in order to have them revive you? Your soul?
And I notice he still will not share any information about the void beings, unlike me and Cim, who shared everything we knew. Could I get a copy of that book on what the void will do Fusil?
I stopped dealing with them after I made that temple and they ignored me.
So how did you revive yourself? And maybe you could make copies of your books to replace the ones stolen from the library...
I should also note that out of consideration for you supporting my keeping the dragon, I will take your request for me to be more careful in its use into deep consideration.I thank you...I apologize for having confused you. Hunger and Greed are not so dissimilar, though they relate to different things. But that does not excuse my mistake. I hope you will forgive me; I have been...troubled, lately, and my focus is split at the moment between a great many things.
(At this point, I should think of a good IC reason why Azem never calls uh...Darruth by his name, only his sphere.)(To ironically reference the fact that he fights for Good only when it's convenient and easy? For example, he gets mad at gods killing another god for attacking other gods, but lets a different god off the hook for genociding an entire city because the god that looked over the city wanted a fifth of the moons available instead of a sixth.)
"I believe you have the wrong God whose primary form is colored green. In any case, normally, those Humans who died would either be reincarnated or, if they worshipped Yaos above any other god, go to his Plane and never reincarnate, since Yaos was always against the system of reincarnation."Tory: "Not just those that worshipped him, but also those who were good in life. If they were good in life and worshipped Yaos, they got eternal paradise. If they were evil and worshipped him, they were punished for a while and then sent to reincarnate. Yaos was doing Good regarding souls way before Darruth showed up, and is still doing so after death, if you ask me. Grauel's worse than a normal genocider because he not only murdered hundreds of thousands, but he's also preventing reincarnation for those who were morally neutral and eternal paradise for those who were Good."
((Oh, I'm sorry, I have to try and good a sizable worship base before I start flipping out at someone with a great deal of power without the council behind me. >.> Especially when they could literally kill me at any time if they really wanted to.))(At this point, I should think of a good IC reason why Azem never calls uh...Darruth by his name, only his sphere.)(To ironically reference the fact that he fights for Good only when it's convenient and easy? For example, he gets mad at gods killing another god for attacking other gods, but lets a different god off the hook for genociding an entire city because the god that looked over the city wanted a fifth of the moons available instead of a sixth.)
((Also i thought you said it was an accident. Admitting the truth now, hrmmm?))(Said what was an accident?)
((Besides which, I didn't 'forgive' him for genociding a city, nor was it about you claiming moons. His cause(not his actions) were just, because Yaos was getting out-of-hand in terms of trying to grab stuff and being so very aggressive towards anything trying to keep him from holding on. Yaos made power plays while claiming to be righteous, Grauel makes power plays without caring about righteousness, and Darruth is righteous but doesn't make power plays(or at least he hasn't yet).))(Actually, all Yaos did was claim what was his by contract. He should only have a sixth of the moons because it was six gods who made them, but since one of the gods is inactive he felt he could have a fifth of the moons and each of the other four gods could also have fifths of the moons. The only 'aggressiveness' Yaos did was saying that anyone who tried to steal his moons would be blocked from entering, told to leave, or if those two options failed, use force to make them leave (ideally in a non-lethal fashion). That to me is more 'defensive' than 'aggressive'.)
((Oh, I'm sorry, I have to try and good a sizable worship base before I start flipping out at someone with a great deal of power without the council behind me. >.> Especially when they could literally kill me at any time if they really wanted to.))(It wasn't criticism, I understand. It's just that Azem might simply see it as you being a coward and thus call you 'Good' ironically for only doing good when it's easy and convenient when most say that Good is goodest when it's hard to do Good. In other news, incorrect capitalisation has increased 500% ever since you entered the scene. :P)
"How many souls tire of paradise I wonder, and would jump at the chance to be reborn?"Hehe. You'd be surprised how often that question comes up. The answer is none. That's the point of eternal paradise. The souls never get bored. They just feel good forever."
(I've never really used it, but I had the idea that all gods Azem doesn't like, Fusil and Cim mostly, he doesn't bother to use their names and just uses their spheres or titles.)
"Hehe. You'd be surprised how often that question comes up. The answer is none. That's the point of eternal paradise. The souls never get bored. They just feel good forever."
"Frankly, if souls can spend eternity without wanting to go back and help out others in achieving the spiritual purity needed to enter this "paradice" of yours, they are hardly good, would you dissagree?""There are many facets and angels to Good. Good is, ironically, not black-and white. Yaos was of the belief that Good should be rewarded for its work with no conditions that more Good is made. She believed that Evil should be punished for its work with no conditions that more Evil be made. More good - more reward. More evil - more punishment. He felt this was fair and that it was as good as she could make it. Darruth wasn't around to advise him on the creation of the system and she received no complaints from him when he was around."
(I have been doing the opposite. The ones I like I use titles, as a sign of respect, the ones I don't I use their real name :P)
"Angel."(I see you quite respect my angel, then. ;))
"If it was so perfect, then why did he only allow such a small percentage of it?""So that your system of reincarnation and soul-spawning wouldn't get messed up. If he let in too many people, less people would be born and you and the other gods would get angry. He tried remaking the reincarnation system so that no one had to go with less but then he realised ((the GM announced)) that it would've messed up the system anyway. So he dropped it and did the best he could with what he had."
"So that your system of reincarnation and soul-spawning wouldn't get messed up. If he let in too many people, less people would be born and you and the other gods would get angry. He tried remaking the reincarnation system so that no one had to go with less but then he realised ((the GM announced)) that it would've messed up the system anyway. So he dropped it and did the best he could with what he had."
I thank you...I apologize for having confused you. Hunger and Greed are not so dissimilar, though they relate to different things. But that does not excuse my mistake. I hope you will forgive me; I have been...troubled, lately, and my focus is split at the moment between a great many things.Honest mistake. I hold no contempt towards you for that.
I must ask, though, Hunger, what happens to those souls the dragon consumes?
If I have it right, the soul is that which gives someone uniqueness and identity, yes? Was...was that lost?
Tory: "Not just those that worshipped him, but also those who were good in life. If they were good in life and worshipped Yaos, they got eternal paradise. If they were evil and worshipped him, they were punished for a while and then sent to reincarnate. Yaos was doing Good regarding souls way before Darruth showed up, and is still doing so after death, if you ask me. Grauel's worse than a normal genocider because he not only murdered hundreds of thousands, but he's also preventing reincarnation for those who were morally neutral and eternal paradise for those who were Good."Keep prodding about it and see just how bad I can really be. I called off my attack out of respect and because I considered the damage to mortals unnecessary. That said, it would be an easy matter for me to exterminate the rest of Yaos's angels without any further harm to mortals should you all continue to annoy me. I have no intention of sitting idly while you try and antagonize me in the eyes of the others. If I'm going to be antagonized, I might as well finish the job and look like a bad guy instead of not finishing it and looking like a bad guy.
"Frankly, if souls can spend eternity without wanting to go back and help out others in achieving the spiritual purity needed to enter this "paradice" of yours, they are hardly good, would you dissagree?""There are many facets and angels to Good. Good is, ironically, not black-and white. Yaos was of the belief that Good should be rewarded for its work with no conditions that more Good is made. She believed that Evil should be punished for its work with no conditions that more Evil be made. More good - more reward. More evil - more punishment. He felt this was fair and that it was as good as she could make it. Darruth wasn't around to advise him on the creation of the system and she received no complaints from him when he was around."
"There are many facets and angels to Good. Good is, ironically, not black-and white. Yaos was of the belief that Good should be rewarded for its work with no conditions that more Good is made. She believed that Evil should be punished for its work with no conditions that more Evil be made. More good - more reward. More evil - more punishment. He felt this was fair and that it was as good as she could make it. Darruth wasn't around to advise him on the creation of the system and she received no complaints from him when he was around."I've been rather preoccupied, not to mention I had no idea there was a Shadow Realm...souls in my afterlife are 'punished' only in the sense that they are shown the results of their actions; if those actions were Good, the results will typically be Good. If they were Evil, the results will often induce guilt and sorrow in the soul, which serves to help them understand better what causes Good and what causes Evil. Yes, eventually they are so Good that they may rest if they wish to, but unsurprisingly, those souls that have reached near-perfect Goodness wish to help others reach the same, and so they do not wish for paradise; they wish for work.
(I've never really used it, but I had the idea that all gods Azem doesn't like, Fusil and Cim mostly, he doesn't bother to use their names and just uses their spheres or titles.)((D: Azem doesn't like me? But...but...:())
@Grauel: "Alright alright. Consider the matter dropped.""The protection of a god isn't enough payment?"
@Khaziraad: "You have a good point there. If Yaos had thought of it, he might've changed it. He's not a god of Good, though. He didn't know everything there was to Good. As far as he knew of Good, he was being as good as he possibly could. I apologise on his behalf for not knowing better."
"With all that said, is anyone looking for mercenary work from Elite Team Yaos? We accept payment in shinies, equipment, power, Essence orbs - those exist, right? - artifacts, passports, and anything else you might think of. Food and water is the only obvious exception."
"With all that said, is anyone looking for mercenary work from Elite Team Yaos? We accept payment in shinies, equipment, power, Essence orbs - those exist, right? - artifacts, passports, and anything else you might think of. Food and water is the only obvious exception."
Also, to be fair, Fusil, I would care if his followers disappeared. That many people missing would damage the worlds' economic balance, and I would lose the opportunity to convert them to Goodness. I'm having remarkable success among the humans. It pleases me."Hey! Leave Yaos' followers alone! If they want to worship a dead god, that's their choice! You don't just get to split them up and take them for yourself! This is where I'd expect Fusil to interject, but I'd like to remind him that when he was dead HIS followers weren't split up and shared between the remaining gods! They were still allowed to worship Fusil, and they weren't even discouraged in doing so!"
I would be willing to hire you, but I'm afraid the only thing we have to offer at the moment is goodwill and the magic of mortals. Essence is slow to come, recently."We can help build temples and spread your name if you want. You're the god of Good, so I think we can work out a payment later."
"The protection of a god isn't enough payment?"
Lette has been struck down!"Apparently not. Speaking of which, I'd like to ask a question. Can a god destroy or bypass the physical/natural laws of a Council-made plane with no negative repercussions, somehow?"
"Hey! Leave Yaos' followers alone! If they want to worship a dead god, that's their choice! You don't just get to split them up and take them for yourself! This is where I'd expect Fusil to interject, but I'd like to remind him that when he was dead HIS followers weren't split up and shared between the remaining gods! They were still allowed to worship Fusil, and they weren't even discouraged in doing so!"They are not prevented from worshiping Yaos; indeed, I think it may be contributing to the rate of conversion, since he also spoke of Goodness, even if it was not the ultimate Goodness. Thus, the values instilled in his followers actually aid in their coming over to Goodness as well. Some might certainly be abandoning Yaos, but I get the feeling they're the sort of people who would do so in any case...
"We can help build temples and spread your name if you want. You're the god of Good, so I think we can work out a payment later."That would be wonderful, thank you. I would be more than willing to permanently take you under my wing, but I have doubts as to your wishing to do so. If you can spread the cause of Good, then I can do my best to guarantee your protection and payment.
(As before, it wasn't me.)(I know. I was addressing the player that's doing this to me. Regardless, I've challenged both deaths in the OOC thread.)
"I want to join the forces of Darruth some day."A noble wish, my child. Tell me; when would you like that day to be?
"Our food bank has expanded. Glory to you!"
"Can you make me the god of Evil?"
"As for payment, passports into any planes you have or might have would be good. Oh, and make sure to credit Yaos in your priests' sermons. It doesn't have to be big, just a short sentence or two praising him like Yaosian priests do for Azem. Deal?"[/font]I believe that can work. If you still have some combat-ready members of the team, I would actually request some battles against my current angels, for their practice and to see how they fare.
"Where is the Luckiest Man in the World? I heard he has a special rod with strange powers.""Why do you seek him?"
"I want my house to turn into a massive shiny!"
"Could you spare me some coins, Goldfather?"
Ritan: "I found a massive pearl today. What should I do with it?"Do as you wish with the pearl, but give something to the less fortunate in return for your great fortune!
Sorae: "I wish these turtles could move faster."Why? Are they too slow? Perhaps you could create something faster?
Ritan: "May you bless my son, who will be in a rayce tomorrow!"Much luck to him! Blessed, and may he become a successful raycer.
Yaos: "SERAC WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK DID YOU DO TO ME!??!? WHY AM I ALIVE? WHY THE HELL AM I THE GOD OF FUCKING COASTS!??!"...
"Jeffrey turned into a jelly roll. Lette and Vaal were killed by some sort of...flying monkey.""Look Azem, we're friends and I know you're trying to cheer me up or something, but I don't have time for this shit. What actually happened?"
"Why is Fusil trying to sue Cim and Serac?""The "law"suits are completely frivolous, considering we were already acquitted for the alleged crimes, which I, for one, was not particularly guilty of anyway."
"I'm being deathly serious Yaos. I'm sorry I could not protect them. They trusted me to protect them.""He's...uhhh...telling the truth."
"That makes two of us. I could use a long nap. But I will help rebuild your angels.""Thanks."
"Can you make it so that Ice Titans spread icy landscape where they roam?"Granted.
"Sculptures are boring. What other forms of art can I make with ice?"
"Every time I try to use healing magic on someone, the someone gets even worse."
No, 42 isn't any special number, why celebrate it by itself?
"I would sugest "Wealth". Truly, it would be more apropriate than greed"
(I knew there was something strange in how Yaos's name still appeared...)(I thought it was pretty strange too. I thought that meant that I was still around somewhere but not even all the god's angels and all the god's men could find me (again) so I gave up on it. I still don't know why my name was still on the board.)
"Is that even possible to do? A sphere is (or should be) a God's primal nature, immutable by definition.""We're gods! We can do ennething!" :D
"Yaos, it was you. Why else would you have died when I revealed myself? You should at least fess up to it, it is fairly obvious what had happened."I can think of almost literally any number of reasons.
I can think of almost literally any number of reasons.
"it is fairly obvious what had happened.""It would be a great aid for the investigation if you'd explain what your obvious solution is. Really, do tell, I'm interested."
You made a deal with the void, so that the plan was for them to kill Yaos when you made your grand reveal, thus enabling you to blame him and claim he got involved with the void, keeping both party's hands from getting too dirty.
Mind you, this is as much conjecture and theory as your own claims, nor do I actually believe it. But you did ask what other reasons there could be.
"Is that even possible to do? A sphere is (or should be) a God's primal nature, immutable by definition."I think Azem would have to agree to it actually. Getting the idea out there probably wouldn't hurt though. I really think Greed fits him less than Wealth. He just doesn't act greedy.
((KJP hasn't greenlit the idea in the OOC thread yet. I'd wait until its viability is made clear.))
Essentially he's more like a rich doting grandfather than the greedy old miser that most would consider associated with Greed."Well he is the Goldfather......"
That said, I attacked your angels, so attacking mine would seem to be a sensible form of retribution."You killed two regular angels, one Psymental angel, thirty-four or so Paladins, and hundreds of thousands of Humans. I think I'm entitled to kill a maximum of four regular angels or three regular angels plus all your Lords of Hunger. I'm not saying they get put up for execution, I'm just saying that if my guys manage to kill them you're not allowed to seek retribution. Is that all right?"
Just don't get too excessive unless you want a counterattack to happen. I technically only killed one angel.
I still think attacking cities should be fair game since it was an important aspect of our war that never happened (aka destroying cities was literally part of the war game mechanics and necessary for victory).(No no no. Capturing cities was part of the war game mechanics. Destroying cities was possible but not necessary.)
And what reason have we to believe you?You made a deal with the void, so that the plan was for them to kill Yaos when you made your grand reveal, thus enabling you to blame him and claim he got involved with the void, keeping both party's hands from getting too dirty.
Mind you, this is as much conjecture and theory as your own claims, nor do I actually believe it. But you did ask what other reasons there could be.
"Your ignorance shows its head once again, Durrath. Now think about the implications of this. If that was true, I could without spending any essence, kill nearly any god. And for some reason I chose Yaos instead of Cim?
The Void have no influence that we as gods do not give them. So long as we to not grant them any, they have no power over us. The Void can not hurt us directly like that, they must use servants or other gods. That reason is impossible, a reason that can't be."
Speaking of the void... Fusil, is there a reason that book got lost?
And there was a jelly roll that injured Cim, could you explain that if it was not the void?
And what reason have we to believe you?
Simple. Because the Void has to agree to. And with the number of assassination attempts on Cim's life, made by, as far as can be told, Void attackers, in addition to Jeffrey becoming an agent of these Jelly Rolls, and the Angel-Emperor of Mankind being replaced...well, it's rather strange how all your enemies are being attacked by the Void, yet you returned to life from nowhere, isn't it?
And, of course, should I die following these statements by way of a Void assailant, I can tell you that it will be, in all likelihood, proof of your hypocrisy and guilt.
(Should've made it obvious. Yaos is just plain old blatantly ignoring anything Fusil says, believing him to be an irrational grouch who cannot be swayed by reason.)
(Even before that. My and Yaos' official nickname for Fusil is 'the Great Opposer', because he opposes practically every proposal that he himself didn't propose. I edited my last post to say that she's also looking to avoid antagonising Fusil (or any god, really) because of her low Essence. Addendum: she'll talk to Fusil, but she won't argue against him.)Quote(Should've made it obvious. Yaos is just plain old blatantly ignoring anything Fusil says, believing him to be an irrational grouch who cannot be swayed by reason.)
(Considering you did kill him...)
"Hey Fusil. So I was wondering if you could perhaps help me rebuild Telialas and Zephemural? I'd really appreciate it if you did."
"Oh and if you could tell me how you avoided permanent death, that would just be fantastic. I'm going on....what was it, three deaths now? Or just two? It kinda blurs together."
"But yeah, I'd rather not go through a permanent death and my track record isn't that great."
"All this god arguing is starting to become annoying. Why don't we work together for a change to inspire some heroics in the mortals.
I'd like to notify everyone that the Essence Dragon has been scrapped and used for spare parts. Let's all bid it a nice fair well. It will live on in our hearts and stomachs."Maybe you can use that Essence to bring the Humans it killed back to life? I mean, the souls might even theoretically be inside you now."
"They are not aiming for my enemies, they are aiming for Yaos's friends. From what we know, he broke a deal with them before he made the deal to kill me. It is likely that the attacks where punishment for that. They did not hide that an Agent was coming, even giving us the time. Yet we didn't see any obvious retribution, aside from the attacks. Notice how Yaos has not even accused me of the energy drain yet, dodging all my questions on it."
"*Yawn* I sense people have been talking about me."Yeah, you interested in swapping out your sphere of Greed for Wealth? Greed seems kind of less fitting when your actions are taken into consideration.
"Maybe you can use that Essence to bring the Humans it killed back to life? I mean, the souls might even theoretically be inside you now."I don't really do charity. I'd rather have you try to destroy my stuff. Goes against my sphere less.
42.00: Give Fusil his angels back [DEAD]
(You could at least spell it right...)Quote42.00: Give Fusil his angels back [DEAD]
(Durrath supported this, it should have passed...)
(You could at least spell it right...)
Quote42.00: Give Fusil his angels back [DEAD]
(Durrath supported this, it should have passed...)
"Hm. I suppose it would be more fitting. I would still be one of the gods of Self Interest."Since Azem is willing to switch his sphere to Wealth, I'd like to claim the sphere Greed in the form of Desire if that's possible.
Yaos, if you need any essence, I'll be glad to help you a bit!"Thanks Joha, that means a lot to me." :') "Maybe just reduce my debt to you a bit instead? I'm kinda filled up on Essence at the moment." :P
Tory has retrieved a Strange Knife and given it to Lee and found a cult of Want who serve their Void Being by giving food and supplies to their community.The cult is questioned as to the whereabouts of more dangerous cults.
Also spread specialized Gruen spores onto the various moons. They are not being claimed by me and others are free to populate them as they wish.Any that attempt to enter Konva 1 to 11 will be vaporised/burned to a crisp using magic/chi applied by angels.
"The Moons currently are inhabited only by Armu and weird humans. The Armu have shown to get lonely without other races around. So I will slay any of his Angels that attempt to kill these poor unborn mortals. Learn your place, Yaos.""Those moons are my property. My own, personal, property, or if not then it's the Empire's. We share a flag. Grauel, please direct your spores away from Konva 1 through 11. You can have literally every other moon but leave those alone unless you want to pay me....let's say 4 Essence for all of them or 1 Essence for every two. Konva 1 is completely off-limits, though."
"Those moons are my property. My own, personal, property, or if not then it's the Empire's. We share a flag. Grauel, please direct your spores away from Konva 1 through 11. You can have literally every other moon but leave those alone unless you want to pay me....let's say 4 Essence for all of them or 1 Essence for every two. Konva 1 is completely off-limits, though."
"You are joking. The Armu landed here first, they are not your property in any way.""Well, everything except the singular Armu colony on that moon is mine. I planted my flag their first, you see, and you are not the secular representative of their government."
"Well, everything except the singular Armu colony on that moon is mine. I planted my flag their first, you see, and you are not the secular representative of their government."
"Enough. Both of you.""Ok."
"There are multiple Armu colonies on the moons."(Actually, there's only one colony and it's on the prime moon. Moreover, they're all in one kind of big dome building thing.)
"Tykki, if the Angels attempt to destroy, teleport, or otherwise mess with the spores near the moons, could you please kill them? Permanently? An M-60 machine gun should work great. Let them escape if they attempt to jump away, but if they come back make them regret it."(Would the other gods have heard this? It's not in colored text....)
(Actually, there's only one colony and it's on the prime moon. Moreover, they're all in one kind of big dome building thing.)
(Would the other gods have heard this? It's not in colored text....)
Propose that I - as a god - have claim on Konva 1, Konva 2, Konva 3, Konva 4, Konva 5, Konva 6, Konva 7, Konva 8, Konva 9, Konva 10, Konva 11, and Konva Prime.
Propose that the above-mentioned bodies belong to the Empire of Mankind.
(Don't lie. You didn't even look.)(Well my angel searched all the moons and the only colony I was told about was on the first moon and that they were in a huge dome building. If it means anything to you, you were dead at the time and it may have been over PM.)
"Tykki, if the Angels attempt to destroy, teleport, or otherwise mess with the spores near the moons, could you please kill them? Permanently? An M-60 machine gun should work great. Let them escape if they attempt to jump away, but if they come back make them regret it.""What's M-60? What's machine? What's a gun? What's an M-60 machine gun?"
"What's M-60? What's machine? What's a gun? What's an M-60 machine gun?"
"I claim that those moons should belong to me because I helped pay for them with Essence, I put boots on the ground and planted flags on them, and I believe Konva 1 should rightfully belong to me despite the Armu presence for the above reason AND also because no official claim by either the Armu government nor Fusil was made claiming it. Furthermore, there are over a thousand Mumans there as opposed to the roughly two dozen Armu."
Can you two stop quarreling? We don't want to have Yaos dead again."If the Council backs my claims on the moons, then it'll be mine. If not, I'll gladly step down. I, for one, will acquiesce and stop quarrelling. That last bit was only supposed to be my full argument as to why I think I should have the moons."
Speaking of which, why is his secondary sphere now coasts of all things?
"If the Council backs my claims on the moons, then it'll be mine. If not, I'll gladly step down. I, for one, will acquiesce and stop quarrelling. That last bit was only supposed to be my full argument as to why I think I should have the moons."
"Kaiju radiation I'm a Saiyan Either it was Serac, or the universe just hates me. Honestly, I wouldn't quite mind if it was the former. I'm alive, after all."
"((Serac, who is in jail... Even though Cim went free...))Kaiju radiationI'm a SaiyanEither it was Serac, or the universe just hates me. Honestly, I wouldn't quite mind if it was the former. I'm alive, after all.
"I could send Elite Team Yaos to help guard the prison if you want, you just have to help me make some fish-eating dragons."Yeah... No. After last time? Plus I need my essence for a project I've been planning.
Yeah... No. After last time?"What happened last time? I don't remember making dragons with you before...."
:P I mean the last time you sent them to a prison. Anyways, hopefully they will be unnecessary.Yeah... No. After last time?"What happened last time? I don't remember making dragons with you before...."
Azem gifts the wood elves three magical emeralds of Life.
"What, so if a kingdom goes out and explores some uninhabited land, take the time and money to map it out before anyone else, that they don't get a claim on that land?"
"Oppose. I have three problems with it but they should be easy to fix. First is what defines a 'wicked' person. Is it someone who's just not pure of heart? Someone who's just a little evil?Instead, let's do the dust thing if the person is at least one of the following things: pure evil, a genocider, a godly a Voidly force attempting to steal it - including Darruth, just in case he's actually the god of Lies or Disguises or something." ;)"A wicked person would be defined as a person that would use the sword to cause pain to innocent for either no reason or to gain something from them. I do agree with the idea that instead of turning to dust they just cant pick it up. The whole dust thing was a bit harsh. I don't like the suggestion for it to be in a peaceful grove that just seems a bit boring and the whole point of the sword is to inspire stories of heroes."
"The second is where the cave is. There are very few, if any, people who have hearts of pure good. That leaves the options for the wielder limited. Then, anyone who goes after it would probably just die in the cave, and that's if any of those people have even heard of the sword or think they can do good without it. It should be in a peaceful grove that everyone knows about and should not be able to be moved except by those pure of heart."
"My third problem is that 'pure of heart' should refer to someone who's 'purely good' instead. What if someone's heart is pure evil? Their heart would be pure and would be able to use it, but at the same time they wouldn't because they're dust. It might end up breaking Part 5 of Anath's Code."
A massive army has razed a Golem town (16 on map), a Mountwyrm town (23 on map), and a Hummingbird town (22 on map)!
(I'll be needing a link to the post or PM for when Lette and Vaal were created. I can't seem to find it.)
Despite their specialization, many of them die from the harsh conditions and random negative actions by meddling gods, but the survivors have adapted well to the near-vacuum, random teleportation, and extreme cold and have begun forming some early villages."Before you say anything, Fusil, just know I didn't do it. All my angels are currently bodyguarding me and I don't have any other agents capable of surviving deep space."
A massive army has razed a Golem town (16 on map), a Mountwyrm town (23 on map), and a Hummingbird town (22 on map)!Send Tory to jump in, check it out, and jump back.
(I interpreted the proposal for propagating sapient races to 2 500 as a one-time thing. Would you rather have it be automated? This may result in abuse and negligent deicide.)(Turns out it was just a one-time thing. A some new proposals (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=144651.msg5829701#msg5829701) that'll make propagation automated as well as prevent negligent deicide.)
Tory checks it out. It seems to be a massive army of some sort of stone people. They appear to have looted much metal from towns they passed. Engraved on their chessts is some sort of dormant humanoid juvenile. They bow to Tory and shout the praises of Y'aos, Knight of Ambition, as Tory passes.
Yaos: I meant something that actually has an Essence count, like when you first built them. That does not tell me anything I don't already know.
Yaos and Joha have created Lette and Vaal, two enhanced fusable angels on Keshan.
(Yaos: -4E, Joha: -5E)
"....Care to explain, Y'aos? I must fortify the capitol quickly, new weapon designs will be necessary....My further actions will have to be covert, considering I am broadcasting to whoever made these things.""I have no idea. None. I just don't even. Good luck on your project, though."
They are inorganic. Keeping a hundret alive would be enough. And if they are inteligent, that means they chose to raze three cities. I shall not stand back and wach them destroy more."Could we at least try diplomacy first? Not to make peace, perhaps, but at least to get some information. They seem to respect me, or the idea of me, for some reason. I bet I can get them to talk. They won't talk if they're getting slaughtered by your angels."
Power to you! If you wish to hire additional help for the task, keep me in mind."'Power to you'? For all we know, this is natural and/or normal for them. If I remember correctly, you defended Human-eating among Gruens because it was natural and/or normal for them. Am I detecting hypocrisy or am I missing something again?"
"Interesting how close they are to human villages without damaging them, isn't it? And they do see to worship you, after you came back from something that should by all means have killed you. Something that killed you from the void, no less. Have you yourself become a Void Being or something?""I have no idea how close they are to Human villages so I can't argue against that ((TAFE filter is blocking the map for me)) "but like I said before: I have NO IDEA how I was brought back or who did it. As far as I can tell, I'm just a normal god. I don't feel very Voidy or non-existant, in any case."
Inorganics are dificult to interogate, but not impossible. Why do you think I wanted 500 of them captured?"That's the thing! We don't have to interrogate them! I can just have Tory ask them normally and they'd probably tell us everything much more quickly and easily than through interrogation. Just wait a little while, ok?"
"'Power to you'? For all we know, this is natural and/or normal for them. If I remember correctly, you defended Human-eating among Gruens because it was natural and/or normal for them. Am I detecting hypocrisy or am I missing something again?"
I check the Divine Library for any knowledge on killing beings that possess your body. Like, if a god or a ghost or something invaded someone's body, how would the possessed kill the possessor or eject it from themselves?Yaos, are you sure you had nothing to do with this?
And give time to whoever created them to hide their creations from my wrath? You are given one hour."An hour's all I need."
"That's a bit of a complex question. The normal answer is no, I had nothing to do with this. If some rogue prophet or something is telling these guys to murder people in my name, I guess it could be said I had something to do with this, even unwillingly."QuoteI check the Divine Library for any knowledge on killing beings that possess your body. Like, if a god or a ghost or something invaded someone's body, how would the possessed kill the possessor or eject it from themselves?Yaos, are you sure you had nothing to do with this?
I mean, your immediate response was to correct them on your name and tell them to not hurt your friends.
And based on what you are doing in the library, I think you are void owned. Anyone want to help throw him to the churn?
Yaos, are you sure you had nothing to do with this?
I mean, your immediate response was to correct them on your name and tell them to not hurt your friends.
And based on what you are doing in the library, I think you are void owned. Anyone want to help throw him to the churn?
They can damage my archangel. Something that all of your angels to this point failed to do. Yaos, your time has just been cut in half.
Move my archangel to the wall that was built by my angels to contain the monsters and back, or move the wall to where my archangel is fighting, whichever is cheaper.
Yaos: You and Azem create new versions of Lette and Vaal. Will their personalities be recreated fresh or in the likeness of the old ones' initial states?I use my God Powers and my link to my angels to recreate their memories and personalities as close to perfect (or perfectly if possible) up to the point where I was killed, or even after that if possible.
The Library contains much about expelling evil spirits in other bodies. A lot of them look like rubbish to you, what with a suggestion to go so far ss to ███████████████████████████████ with a dead cow.Seems like there's no danger to possession. I possess a random Muman to get a feel for what it's like to be one. Is it better than my Human body? Oh and I tell the guardians of the library of the damaged book.
Khaziraad: Your five angels capture 500 of the stoNe people. Those captured disintegrate, and the remaining ones turn their attention to the archangel. They are fairly effective at damaging each other. A glowiNg stoNe peRsoN in the form of a wiNged HumaN attacks Khaziraad's archangel, staggering it visibly.(Ok. No. Khaziraad said he wouldn't do anything to the warriors for an hour. Attempting to capture five hundred of them goes under 'anything'. Retcon please?)
Yaos, you know they aren't going to answer your questions, right? They will just chant your name."If they don't, Khaziraad's angels can just capture some of them (which they TOTALLY haven't done yet because Khaziraad said he wouldn't do anything until an hour had passed) and we kill the rest. Easy."
"You know, if my archies still had their swords they could just fuse and nuke the fuckers. Fusiiiiiiiiil.......?"
"Besides, I just spent a bunch of essence on exploding crossbow bolt enchantment designs and polybolo plans, among other weapons.""Those sound really interesting! You mind giving my Paladins some of them like you did with the flamethrowers?"
Who are you? "YouR loyal seRvaNts, GReat Y'aos!""I....wha.....the fuck!??!? Ok. WHAT!? Ok. No, not ok. THE ACTUAL. FUCK. Ok, for real this time. Stop torching and killing ANYTHING and do NOT fight back against anyone who attacks you."
What are you? "YouR loyal seRvaNts, GReat Y'aos!"
Why are you killing and burning everything?: "It is as you commaNd, GReat Y'aos!"
Where'd you come from?: "The GloRious HumaN Capital, GReat Y'aos!"
Who made you?: "You did, GReat Y'aos!"
Who's your leader? "It is you, GReat Y'aos!"
What gods do you worship? "GReat Y'aos!"
Do you worship the Void? "Yes! GReat Y'aos! We WoRship The Void that is you!"
When were you created? "WheN you weRe Revived, GReat Yaos!"
What do you know about jelly rolls? "They aRe delicious caNdy, GReat Yaos!"
What do you know about monkeys? "They aRe Silly aNd CheeKy, GReat Yaos!"
"Those sound really interesting! You mind giving my Paladins some of them like you did with the flamethrowers?"
"Care to explain this?""I really wish I could. Seriously, why the hell am I always caught up in this shit!? First something kills my Emperor and then kills me, then a giant, indestructible dead god Essence space dragon drops in and kills a few hundreds of thousands, then something else which I heavily believe to be Void trickery kills me AGAIN, then Jeffrey gets turned into a jelly roll, then Lette and Vaal get killed and stolen by monkeys of all things, and now THIS. I am so unbelievably done."
Yaos: The Ninjas and Inquisition search the capital. Many stoNe people salute them as they march out of the city. Practically all of the metallic objects in the city have disappeared, and the Palace has been turned into a massive foundry.HOW THE ACTUAL FUCK DID THEY DO ALL THIS AND NONE OF US NOTICED!? That's another question that should be asked, by the way.
"I have a hypothesis on what is going on. Spare at least one of them until I'm done putting it to the test."Lette has orders not to kill the last one.
"I have a hypothesis on what is going on. Spare at least one of them until I'm done putting it to the test."
(Andres: Picture not showing up: Can you see my avatar at least? They're both hosted on imgur. Does https://imgur.com/ load?)(Forgot to answer this. I cannot see your avatar and imgur doesn't load. When I click the link it doesn't say that it's blocked, though. It just doesn't load.)
Third time's the charm."Oh **** you Khaziraad!"
Condensate 1kg of hydrogen over 2500m^2 of flat ground near the archangel. Have the archangel strike the hydrogen with activated hammer. Keep hydrogen from igniting or reacting with other elements.
Condensate 1kg of hydrogen over 2500m^2 of flat ground near the archangel. Have the archangel strike the hydrogen with activated hammer. Keep hydrogen from igniting or reacting with other elements."That's going to cause a lot of entropy. It could use some guidance so that it'd destroy only the stoNe meN and not the whole planet. A bit of Order should help."
"Space explorers made out of ice? That does sound grand."
A Rani unhealer's problem has not yet been resolved. It seems that the local priests know little about the cause of the problem.Scan this Rani for any void or god tampering.
Also, why would propagating the Seraphim cost me 5 Essence, when making the Ophanim in the first place and propagating them to be about that large didn't even cost that much?[/b]
"That's going to cause a lot of entropy.""Entropy? ENTROPY!? Silly Cim! We're gods! We can create planets just by people saying 'thank you' to us enough times!"
Yaos; see what you can get them to see, how many different sounds you can make them say, that aren't at the beginning of the word. The emphasis they place on certain syllables seems suspicious, and it should aid Joha in figuring out what the hidden message might be.The Stone Warriors are told to recite the alphabet.
"Entropy? ENTROPY!? Silly Cim! We're gods! We can create planets just by people saying 'thank you' to us enough times!""Indeed we can, but not everything can be thought through and risks have to be taken. Would you expect a God of Architecture to perform proper, safe, cross-aligned, demolition, even through proxy? I wouldn't, honestly, so I decided to chip in and make it safer."
"hahahahahaha yet another god council proposes to destroy us any guesses what happened to the last nineteen that tried"
Nothing is making the stoNe meN? Perfect.
"Yaos, I demand an explanation! Why did you create these things? Is it part of your deal? How did you revive? There is no doubt it is related to the void.""A wizard did it. Mu. Mu. I don't know. Correct."
Propose we build a galaxy-sized space battleship with a WMG and a humanoid form that the gods can use to enter the Void and destroy the Nulls within them.
"That will not work, you fool. We cannot yet hope to wipe them out. We have to be more subtle, keeping our own backyard clean before attempting to fight something that could wipe out all of our current existence if we are not careful.""You're not being ambitious enough! I think it's utterly demeaning that we should be bullied and cowered by these Void things! They are stripping us of our PRIDE! What we need to do is throw away our petty fears and strike at them with our hot-blooded fury! Wait a minute.....that's it! I know how we can defeat them!"
"You're not being ambitious enough! I think it's utterly demeaning that we should be bullied and cowered by these Void things! They are stripping us of our PRIDE! What we need to do is throw away our petty fears and strike at them with our hot-blooded fury! Wait a minute.....that's it! I know how we can defeat them!"
-slap!-"Ow! Hey!"
You cannot just do that!"......why? It's already been proven by my archangels that fusion is both safe and grants absolutely extraordinary power beyond simply adding power onto power! Imagine if gods fused together!"
*blows bubbles at Yaos*You cannot just do that!"......why? It's already been proven by my archangels that fusion is both safe and grants absolutely extraordinary power beyond simply adding power together. Imagine if gods fused together!"
Your angels are designed for fusion, gods are not."Oh yeah. I guess you're right. So much for that plan.........."
Fusil cocks a SIG and turns the safety off, without raising anything."Wassat? Can I has?"
"Enough. Any god who remains sane, and wishes for us to not tear each other apart in a paranoid frenzy, raise your appendage."Cim hefts its spear.
"I'm going to need as many living gods to explain to me the situation."Well hello! Right now, an army of stoNe meN is rampaging through one of the worlds, razing everything in their path. The are being created by Nothing in the Human Capital, and claim to follow Yaos' every order but ignore most of what he says. Yaos is probably void possesed and creating things without knowing... or knowing but unable to do anything about it.
Propose we build a galaxy-sized space battleship with a WMG and a humanoid form that the gods can use to enter the Void and destroy the Nulls within it.I counter your proposal by proposing you explain your void dealings or we will turn you into a rowboat and send you to fight them yourself. What exactly did you promise them?
"What if they are obeying Yaos, but simply not following his "Fake, Open" orders? If he ordered them to raze everything, then 'not listen to my false orders', he would be able to tell them anything he wanted openly, while they continue to follow their true orders he gave in secret?"
"....So your saying we should destroy Yaos to fix everything.
Yaos, are you sure you aren't going off the deep end?"Ambition's my new primary sphere. Still getting used to it. Other form's also a bit more emotionally unrestrained. I'll get rid of most of these proposals but I'll be honest - I think I'm on to something with my fusion idea."
"chance chose Yaos to be the one to have created the stoNe meN. Thus, she both did and didn't, in the way that some other being did and didn't do it and reality fixed the causation to have Yaos do it, but that required her to be alive, thus reviving her.""So the only reason they claim to listen to me and aren't attacking Humans is by chance? And that Serac, for example, is mathematically just as responsible for this as me? Wait. If it was chance that did it and even dead gods are considered candidates, then couldn't another dead god have been brought back to life instead of me? Valkiss or Kujin for example?"
"I think it is worth a try...""This is the part where I'd argue and maybe perhaps even make a few threats, but honestly, I've thought about that option before. I'm currently doing some experiments in the background which may help in getting back my old sphere. My current bottleneck is my pitifully low amount of Essence. If nothing works, I'm probably going to have Azem kill me in a very specific manner and then revive me. I just ask for patience."
While you may be right, I believe the risk is too great, and besides, you're somewhat biased.Quote"....So your saying we should destroy Yaos to fix everything.
"I think it is worth a try..."
"If we killed Yaos, whose to say the universe won't just pick another one of us at random?"
Nor should we listen to you, Fusil. You have a bias in this, and have already attempted to defy the council and it's will, and have blatantly said that you oppose all laws and restrictions that might keep you in check.
We have only your word that they are Void-tainted, and you withhold so much information that we no reason whatsoever to trust you or your word.
In fact, I notice that neither a Seppo nor Armu town has been razed by these invaders, nor does it seem as though you are sending your own angels to fight them, which is highly out of keeping with your character, since you are so apt to use force, even when unnecessary
The law was preventing you from committing murder, and we still know not who killed you or how; they have been punished
And yes, it is in fact a democracy, rather than the god of Weapons deciding that force of arms should be the way to run things.
And indeed, I hope to check. I certainly hope you weren't lying. And if you were telling the truth, which I believe is likely the case in this specific instance, it makes no difference as to who made them; the Void itself might be making them, but even if you did not initiate these invaders, you are certainly benefiting from them, and doing what seems like nothing to stop them.
"Are delusional or just forgetful? You proceeded to attempt the murder of both Cim and Yaos.
"I was already convicted for a crime I had not committed at that point. I purposefully let Yaos live, while attempted to kill Cim was just good since. They had both proceeded to actually kill me, which nobody responded to in any way.""You know what I find odd? The way you excluded Serac there. he was just as much in the attack as us yet you're not even mentioning it. Considering Serac's undeniable dealings with the Void - not only speaking to them like Cim but actually creating a temple to them - and his part on the attack against STF I'm surprised you're not as angry with him as with me and Cim. The fact that he's very eager to have me killed for suspected Void dealings in comparison to his confirmed dealings, and THEN factoring in my very public hatred of the Void leads me to think he's trying to have me killed to silence me and win favour for himself with the Void! I also claim that YOU, Fusil, are helping him! Why else would you ignore his attack against you and his Void deals if not because you have aligned your goals with his?"
"You know what I find odd? The way you excluded Serac there. he was just as much in the attack as us yet you're not even mentioning it. Considering Serac's undeniable dealings with the Void - not only speaking to them like Cim but actually creating a temple to them - and his part on the attack against STF I'm surprised you're not as angry with him as with me and Cim. The fact that he's very eager to have me killed for suspected Void dealings in comparison to his confirmed dealings, and THEN factoring in my very public hatred of the Void leads me to think he's trying to have me killed to silence me and win favour for himself with the Void! I also claim that YOU, Fusil, are helping him! Why else would you ignore his attack against you and his Void deals if not because you have aligned your goals with his?"
"You continue to ignore everything that does not suit your view of the world. Such as the efforts of myself and the god of architecture."
Reeeeeeally? In any way?Quote"Are delusional or just forgetful? You proceeded to attempt the murder of both Cim and Yaos.
"I was already convicted for a crime I had not committed at that point. I purposefully let Yaos live, while attempted to kill Cim was just good since. They had both proceeded to actually kill me, which nobody responded to in any way."
Darruth is silent for a moment, as he processes the information, even after having returned his awareness to the Godly Realm. Then, something snaps.
What the fuck is this shit? I stop watching you deities for half-a-tick and a second shitstorm pops up? This is utterly godsdamned ridiculous.
After practically choking on his words and fury, he takes a moment to compose himself, though it's quite evident that what was snapped has not been unsnapped.
So let me figure something out. Let me make sure I know exactly what's happening right now.
You lot; Cim, Yaos, and Serac, lead an attack on the angels that were supposed to keep Fusil from dying while he was in stasis and we collected information about the events leading up to his assault on Cim
A Harbinger appeared out of nowhere, I have no idea what the fuck those things do
Fusil died during the attack on his guardian angels, and the council surveillance reports that the three of you murdered him.
The three of you, primarily Yaos, try to actually gain some shit out of this whole affair, and Yaos seems to be not only staying out of the trial involving him like his comrades are doing, but is trying to get as much power as possible from this shit-fest, it seems.
For Goodness' fucking sake, people. This is bullshit. And I am very, very disappointed in you, Yaos.
So, allow me to demonstrate, one at a time, why you guys fucked up. Whether you should be punished or not is a different matter.
A. We could have continued to keep Fusil sealed indefinitely, so it wasn't like he was an actual threat at the moment.
B. WHERE IS YOUR GODSDAMNED PROOF THAT HE PLANNED ANY OF THE SHIT YOU SAID HE DID? He claimed the exact same thing of you three when he attacked Cim! And this gives so much more credence to those claims. And don't try to bullshit this. I am the God of Goodness, and even if Truth isn't directly under Good, it's so very damnably close that I can assure you it will be trivial to ensure you can't lie to the Council on this.
C. If I fire a catapult at a castle that you are living in, and say it's justified because I wasn't attacking you, per se, it's still a bullshit argument. In addition to, Fusil tried using the exact same argument to get out of being in trouble with the council for attacking Cim by claiming that Tykki was the one to attack. And guess what? That was bullshit too. Besides which, they were bound to protect him, so if you attacked them and something else killed him because they were dead or busy, you caused his death, indirectly or not.
D. Doing this shit in secret, rather than waiting for the council to vote on whether or not to execute him. That just makes you look bad.
And now, Yaos, allow me to demonstrate all of the flaws in your argument.
First off, fuck analogies. We're Gods. Mortal analogies don't apply. And shut up for a second about me using one earlier, fuck that one too, then.
Second off, there is a fucking difference between 'it's not specifically illegal' and 'legal rights'. 'Legal rights' are specifically outlined as your being allowed to do them. 'Not specifically illegal' can still be against the spirit of the law, which is the important part here. Nobody but you gives a shit about the letter of the law. And maybe Cim, but he's kinda obligated to do it so it's not his fault.
Third, for causing the wrongful death of a god based on trumped up conspiracy charges that you tried to carry out in secret? You don't deserve shit. In fact, I would argue that you might even deserve to have some shit taken away as punishment. YOU CAUSED THE FUCKING DEATH. STOP BULLSHITTING, DAMNIT.
Fourth, actually, fine. Let's try an analogy. Your grenade blew up in the guy's house. The house collapses. The guy dies. STILL YOUR FAULT.
Fifth, your bullshit attempts at legal grounds, and trying to sue the Council for trying to stop you from breaking the spirit of the law, means you basically just lost all claim to legal credibility in terms of being allowed to represent yourself. Get Cim to do it instead; he'll be better anyway.
In case you haven't noticed, I'm pissed. This is what happens when you get a God of Goodness truly angry. Would you like me to continue? Or have you finished with the bullshit, and I can return to my usual self? I'd like to return to my usual self. Please stop bullshitting us? It's not working.
Support 37.00a
Support 37.01b, contingent on the action taken by the council for conviction being making the decision of punishment.
Support 37.02a
Council v. Cim, Serac, and Yaos
Council surveillance detected the defendants murdering Fusil. Automatically generated options are as follows:
37.01.a: Acquit Cim, Serac, and Yaos
+2 from Yaos, Joha
0 from Serac, Cim
-3 from Azem, Khaziraad, Darruth~
37.01.b: Convict Cim, Serac, and Yaos
+3 from Azem, Khaziraad, Darruth~
0 from Serac, Cim
-2 from Yaos, Joha
What were you saying again?
"The fact that all the measures but one failed means that what you had done amounted to nothing."
"I have, in fact, sent my own Angels to defend the Seppo and Armu towns. These two 'facts' you brought up work together. I don't do it openly as everyone else had, because I have my suspicions Yaos would attempt to stop me. Do recall that even the giant Castle Archangel managed to get injured, there is no reason for my to loudly shot about who and what my Archangels are slaying at the moment."But not to actually stop the invasion at it's source; unlike you. The best defense is a good offense, is not? Yet your angels act as buffers for your towns, rather than striking at the source of the danger.
"No, it was not. It was preventing me from stating my desire to kill Cim. It did not prevent me from being murdered. All this stupid, worthless, idiotic law prevents is yelling loudly about who you want to kill. So long as you do not publicly state your desire to murder someone it does nothing. You might as well say all it outlaws is saying you are going to kill someone, as it fails at everything else. My murderer has not been punished at all, you still let Yaos stand on my corpse despite all the facts pointing to him killing me! Let alone the other two, who blatantly assaulted my prison, not getting so much as a slap on the wrist. How do these laws work in any way?"Before I respond, I'll say this: you were, in fact, trying to kill Cim, and the response the Council got because you broke the law meant you were unable to. It prevented you from murdering. As much as I wish I could, I cannot force you to see reason. *sigh* They work quite well, if one looks at it from the perspective of Talonis Rex: You attempted to kill someone, or several someones, and they, in turn, ended up killing you. Very few of the facts actually point to Yaos intentionally killing you; most things you refer to as facts are assumptions and hearsay; most of it made by yourself. When you are ready to use reason and sense, rather than wild conjecture and outlandish claims, to support your case, come back. Until then, we are done with this argument.
"Effectively, if 60% of us team up, the other half is just fodder. That is how your idiotic laws currently work. This isn't a democracy, it is a mob rule that just happens to benefit you. You are just making it a matter of numbers rather than strength. "And you've seen how difficult it can be to get to that point. Besides which, I have my suspicions that if 40% of the council opposed something, and the other 60% supported it, there would be a lot more conflict than a simple vote, in the end.
"Isn't the fact my towns are not falling as the others are show that I am, in fact, doing far more to stop them then you are? You are insulting me..."And you insult just about every member of this council on a regular basis. If you wish to be shown respect, you must show respect. You have consistently failed to do anything of the sort, so I fail to see any reason for me to do so towards you.
You were imprisoned for attempted murder.
Cim and Serac would have been punished as well, but again, we ended up being distracted, and then you returned, and basically said you were fine with it.
Yaos died several times, and lost one of his spheres, as a result of his crimes. Do you still desire his death solely because the two of you disagree?
But not to actually stop the invasion at it's source; unlike you. The best defense is a good offense, is not? Yet your angels act as buffers for your towns, rather than striking at the source of the danger.
Before I respond, I'll say this: you were, in fact, trying to kill Cim,
They work quite well, if one looks at it from the perspective of Talonis Rex: You attempted to kill someone, or several someones, and they, in turn, ended up killing you.
Very few of the facts actually point to Yaos intentionally killing you; most things you refer to as facts are assumptions and hearsay; most of it made by yourself. When you are ready to use reason and sense, rather than wild conjecture and outlandish claims, to support your case, come back. Until then, we are done with this argument.
And you've seen how difficult it can be to get to that point. Besides which, I have my suspicions that if 40% of the council opposed something, and the other 60% supported it, there would be a lot more conflict than a simple vote, in the end.
It is a matter of strength, just not brute strength (sometimes, even, it's that too; the might of the council). Strength of diplomacy, strength of alliances, and most of all, strength in numbers.
How surprising, that the God of Weapons would want things to be solved in the way that benefits him most. How very unexpected.
Democracy and mob rule are surprisingly similar; it is in fact, a democracy. It's simply one that doesn't benefit you, and so you dislike it.
And you insult just about every member of this council on a regular basis. If you wish to be shown respect, you must show respect. You have consistently failed to do anything of the sort, so I fail to see any reason for me to do so towards you.
As to your question; there are a great many flaws in that logic, the first of which being that the first notice we had of the stoNe meN, was when several towns were destroyed.
Secondly, it does not show that whatsoever, because the fact of the matter is that you aren't doing anything to stop them. You're leaving them behind to cower around your cities, in the hopes that should we fail, you might last another day or two against the tide of statues.
Thirdly, by your logic, I would in fact be doing the most of all, because my towns will never fall, because I have no towns.
Propaganda starring Yaos, Serac, and Fusil is released. The propaganda shows Yaos in a heroic light, proposing that all the gods unite in their fight against the Void. Fusil is depicted as a Grouchy McScrooge type character opposing everything Yaos suggests. Serac is depicted as demanding Yaos' death for conspiring with the Void while attempting to cover up a Void temple that he - Serac - made by throwing a blanket over it. Both Fusil and Serac are depicted as shadowy figures contrasting to Yaos being covered in light. They are also made to look uglier while Yaos is made to look more handsome and heroic.
The source of the iNcuRsioN seems to be a grand temple to Yaos.I already found where they are coming from. Your temple...
I already found where they are coming from. Your temple...(Whoops! Forgot!)
I draw a mustache, glasses, a unibrow, and anything else I can think of on Yaos on all of these. Literally all of them.Veto
Change Yaos' posters to make the void temple into Yaos's temple, with stoNe meN pouring out.Veto
Azem changes all Yaos' posters to depict himself and the Shiny Ones.Indeed, Azem is present in the poster. He is depicted as fighting the forces of the Void.
Veto
"I had not attempted murder, thus it was a false charge."Really? News to me. See, the nice thing about magic records is being able to look at them. So let's take a look at the instant replay, shall we?
"Do you have no memory? I am the one who brought up charges against them, because of the completely pathetic failing of the last one."
"He killed me. Him dying twice because of that is his own fault, he needs to be punished more. The fact that he just summoned an army that slaughtered at the very least thousands is proof of that, is it not?"Boy, you sure do love presenting assumptions and theories as facts! Let's say he did kill you. We have no proof that you didn't kill him when you revived; as in, make a deal with the Void or some other convoluted scheme that killed him when you were revived. Leaving that aside for the moment, you tried to kill two gods, without the same provocation Yaos and Cim had. Serac is iffy. But all you got was imprisonment for six ticks, while Yaos was dead for longer than that, I believe. Should you be punished more, then?
"You don't know what my Angels are doing. I am keeping my followers protected. That is my duty. Anything I do over that is just going above and beyond. I don't see your Angels or races on the firing line..."That may be partially because there isn't a firing line, because we aren't using guns. However, let's look at a more recent instant replay.
"That was an outright lie. You where not even around for it, assuming you had any idea what was going on is simply insulting."Two things:
"I did not, until I was charged with it. Then they killed me without facing charges. This system is broken, and you are an absulute idiot not to see that. Any mortal could tell you this was a bad law."The instant replays say otherwise. And they would have faced charges; indeed, they still might, though their sentence will probably be reduced due to the possibility that they felt they were acting in self-defense; you did try to kill 2 out of the three, after all.
"What? Are you an absolute moron? You can try searching yourself. All facts lead to Yaos killing me. You have not disproved this, and I have brought forth evidence for it. You main dismissal of this is that it was me bringing it up. Because that somehow makes it wrong? Yaos brought together a group to attack my jail cell. I die. Yaos gets some essence income. When I return, the void kills Yaos because the deal was broken. All these are facts that you could check with little effort. These are hardly wild and outlandish claims."The ones that are facts don't point solely to Yaos killing you, and the rest aren't facts. We don't know why the Void killed Yaos. So we don't know that, actually. Yaos attacked your angels, and while this is still despicable, it is not quite the same. It could be that he killed you. He died multiple times in return. Besides, weren't you the one talking about innocent until proven guilty?
"This has happened many times before without open conflict. You have proven once again to be a horrible judge of character, basing assumptions on things you know nothing about on stereotypes."Actually I was basing it on the conflict that happened with the council convicting you of attempted murder; you drove one council member into dormancy and launched a last-ditch effort to kill another one. If 40% of the council was violently opposed to an action, because, say, it would kill them, I have little doubt that the current issues would be trivial in comparison.
"Strength in numbers is just another way to say mob rule, when applied to law."*rolls eyes* it's not just applied to law. Cim and Serac together were able to keep your angels from doing anything. The council as a whole does wield a remarkable amount of power.
"The way things are solved now ends up with me being killed, my killers walking free, and some halfwit trying to lecture me on the law. Of course I want something that benefits me more than that."You want a system that solves all it's issue with brute force, because that's what you are best at. You want something where you can always have the final say. And in all honesty, all of us do. Democracy is a compromise, because not everyone can have the final say all the time, by definition.
"Doesn't benefit me? It killed me. For no reason. If mortals had done this, lynching a man in prison, it would be called a great injustice. But your opinion of me has clouded your already poor judgment. The current laws murdered me. My murderers received no punishment. This. Is. Broken."No. The laws prevented you from murdering someone. As a result, you were killed by individuals taking advantage of the situation. That is not a lynching, that is an assassination. And it was a great injustice. Almost as great an injustice as you attempting to kill two gods because one insulted you and the other tried to keep him from being killed, and was opportunely weak.
"I am your elder, superior to you in every way. Is that not enough reason to show respect?"There's a short answer and a long answer to this. The short answer is: No. It's not.
"I fail to see your point here."Your application of cause and effect isn't logical or accurate. Their towns were destroyed before they even realized something was happening; if it had been in a different location, it would have been one of your towns, instead.
"Again, I say that you are an absolute idiot. I am fighting them, you have no clue how I am doing it, my tactics, or even what I am using. I am not nuking things for the entire council to see, considering that tactic got the God of Architecture's servant gravely injured. That does not mean I am not fighting them, and if you expect every battle to go like that you are simply a moron."If you aren't doing it out in the open, what reason do I have to believe you? Why wouldn't you do it out in the open, so that the council might cooperate? Khaziraad's Archangel was injured because the amount of damage it did was so catastrophic, and it was so tough no one's angels or archangels could damage it. I have my doubts that Tykki could accomplish as much.
"How is that even remotely related? I protect my people, as is my duty. The fact you have nobody to protect does not mean you are doing more than I."Which was precisely my point; I was showing how your logic was flawed by applying it to myself.
Look what all this silliness made me do instead of trying to get a stable internet connection on this train to make the T47 update!Amazing! Brilliant! Help Yaos rain copies over the entire human kingdom. :PSpoiler (click to show/hide)
Look what all this silliness made me do instead of trying to get a stable internet connection on this train to make the T47 update!(What!? Why am I wearing glasses!? What!? This (http://s2.postimg.org/m7nvjpa21/God_Cropped.png) is what I look like right now.)Spoiler (click to show/hide)
-snip-@Fusil:
I feel entitled to a joke threat to turn you into a rowboat and throw you out to fight the void............
They seem to serve Yaos, but they have yet to obey a single Council-audible command.The ONLY kind of command that Yaos has given them. Yaos hasn't even attempted to give them a command via secret action.
Muman: "I want to fly like a flimp!""I recommend either learning air magic if you can or working on chi channelling."
Keshan Human: "Why can't I just keep these nice stoNe people as servants? They sweep and mop my floors, wash my clothes, and even bear hug thieves!"
Slythan Huminee: "I want to be made completely Human. Luminees stink. Even my mother."
Void Cults are at an all-time low even though the Inquisition reports unchanged amounts of purging.I attribute the lack of Void cults to the unchanged amounts of purging. Great job guys! :D I trade some of the more heinous cultist prisoners in exchange for the Puzzle Box.
Yaos' symbol has been changed to that of a crowned human holding an orb in one hand and pointing to the heavens with the other."I did this as a secret action. It was to test if changing my symbol would automatically change it on the Stone Warriors. It did not. I don't know what this mean, except that they are not intrinsically tied to me. That's what I believe, in any case."
(Yaos: -4E)(What could I have possibly spent 4 Essence on? The original Orbs of Ambition were created with a mere 2 Essence and that was when Ambition was my secondary sphere.)
(What!? Why am I wearing glasses!? What!? This is what I look like right now.)
@Fusil:
"You do realise that I proposed doing that exact thing, right? Heck, if I had 25 Essence to spend I'd be doing pretty much exactly that."
(If you can magically draw graffiti on every single poster in existence, then I can magically stop you from doing exactly that every time.)Quote(What!? Why am I wearing glasses!? What!? This is what I look like right now.)
(I drew them on. Vetos mean nothing!)
"Wait. You're actually trying to help me get a moon-sized space battleship with a WMG and a humanoid form? Thanks Fusil!"Quote"You do realise that I proposed doing that exact thing, right? Heck, if I had 25 Essence to spend I'd be doing pretty much exactly that.""A fireworks show? Umm, thank you?"Spoiler (click to show/hide)
"I support throwing Yaos into the void. "
(If you can magically draw graffiti on every single poster in existence, then I can magically stop you from doing exactly that every time.)
"Wait. You're actually trying to help me get a moon-sized space battleship with a WMG and a humanoid form? Thanks Fusil!"
(I did it physically. With a 'pen knife.' Wanna come down and stop me phisically? I am sure I would like to meet my murderer face to face.)(Once I refill on Essence, maybe.)
"So you're planning on turning me into a moon-sized battleship with a WMG and a humanoid form and then putting me in a rowboat? Seems kinda the same but I'm still down."Quote"Wait. You're actually trying to help me get a moon-sized space battleship with a WMG and a humanoid form? Thanks Fusil!"
"No. I was supporting the rowboat with grapes."
That would require decent knowlege of how the stone men operate. May I sugest we move the human capital and I have the temple flattened?"I've already begun preparations to glass the entire city. The people are being evacuated as we speak and after that it's simply the matter of collecting whatever texts, artifacts, inventions, and shinies within the city and moving them out. I think we should wait until my ninjas report on what's inside the temple itself before we do anything."
The Ninjas find that the stoNe soldieRs emerge after worship services.Exactly how many services are there that would create thousands of the bloody things?
Keshan Human: "My husband [DATA EXPUNGED]!"(Umm, is this supposed to be something that's not quite PG or something that's worthy of PURGING?)
"Hello. I am Mgaareecaalwahiisnshyzhrshui, Liminal Hadal-tier. I am currently available for information and pacts.""ALKSJHDFLASDHFLASJNDAFUQ!?? Did I just talk to a Void being!? Did everyone else hear that or was it just me?"
"ALKSJHDFLASDHFLASJNDAFUQ!?? Did I just talk to a Void being!? Did everyone else hear that or was it just me?""I heard it as well. Mgaareecaalwahiisnshyzhrshui must be close by to our Bubble."
Azem turns back to dragon form and looks at Yaos menacingly."Oh. Did I cross a line? Seriously, I'm sorry. Didn't know it was that bad. Won't happen again."
Yaos: Coasts and Humans"Gods fucking damn it! This is worse! Well, at least I know that my spheres can be changed."
Let's say you bleed yellow blood and blue blood. One blade only causes yellow wounds and the other is nonselective. If you start with an existing yellow wound, you will likely end up with more serious yellow wounds than blue wounds if they have a near-equal chance of being opened by the nonselective blade. It may not have been noticeable at first, of course.That made more sense in your head. Are you saying I was bleeding Ambition before I even stabbed myself?
"You are only repeating your lies, and misconceptions you have in your stupidity. Why should I bother to respond to someone as lowly as you, when you will not make the effort for new arguments? We could continue repeating our selves until the Void destroy us, but it wouldn't effect anything. Learn your place, scum."INSTANT REPLAY
"Dismissive arguments are a sign of a loser. You are retreating, and I think you know this. Are you letting your own petty feelings cloud your judgment?"
I will help if you test if it even works first. They may use sense other than sight to recognise humans.True... Initiate tests!
Yaos, you want to help fix the stoNe meN?Assist; protect those who would be harmed otherwise by assisting in making all sentient creatures register as human to the stoNe meN.
Make all sentient creatures appear human (subspecies of humans?) to the stoNe meN, with help from any gods who want to help.
"Merpeople? That sounds so cool!" :D "I can't unfortunately. I'm pretty low on Essence after all that and I think I'll save up a bit before doing anything else."If five of us are working together, I believe it would be free; if not, then I'm not sure if anyone would agree to it.
Really? Are you just covering up your activities?"Hey, you're the one wasting Essence here." ::) "What I'm doing wastes mana and stamina, but not Essence. I'd also prefer that the root of the problem be solved with an adequate amount of Holy Fire rather than simply cover it up some more."
Because we kind of had a fix for them. You could help with that instead of throwing a temple into the sun. [grumble] waste of essence [/grumble]
If five of us are working together, I believe it would be free; if not, then I'm not sure if anyone would agree to it."That's something I thought in my younger days too, no offence. ;) As it would turn out, it would only be free for some of us."
Whatever you say Iris. :P And how will you stop them from coming out of another one of your temples?Really? Are you just covering up your activities?"Hey, you're the one wasting Essence here." ::) "What I'm doing wastes mana and stamina, but not Essence. I'd also prefer that the root of the problem be solved with an adequate amount of Holy Fire rather than simply cover it up some more."
Because we kind of had a fix for them. You could help with that instead of throwing a temple into the sun. [grumble] waste of essence [/grumble]
Then if you end up being the one having to pay Essence, I'm sure one of us with more would be able to pay for any expenses incurred on your part. Still, as I said, with 5-6 of us? It should be trivial to make the race. Propagation might cost a bit more if we go overboard, on the other hand."The problem is that I have an incredibly low maximum Essence right now. You couldn't pay me back no matter how much Essence it costs me." :(
Whatever you say Iris. :P And how will you stop them from coming out of another one of your temples?"Umm, what? Iris? Is that like an insult or something?" ??? "As far as I can tell, that's the only temple that pronounced my name with that little pause in my name."
You could at least help, your human sphere would help us make them think everyone is human. And why do you say covering up? It completely transforms them from a threat to an aid.
"Good point. I agree with you. Unfortunately, I have a maximum Essence of 2 and spending any might make me dormant, assuming that 5/2 is a clerical error, and you KNOW that clerical errors have happened before. Again, sorry." :(
Actually, I believe that as soon as you gain any Essence at all, your maximum Essence will become whatever Essence you then have. I do not believe it was a clerical error; it seemed very deliberate."Would you care to test this theory by giving me 1 Essence?" ;D
Mgaareecaalwahiisnshyzhrshui, you know what's going on with these stoNe meN, don't you? Care to explain it?
Oppose 43.01. We need to remove every ounce of Void influence in the Bubble, not propagate it!
"Conversation with Mgaareecaalwa...Maggie is not an absolute no. While yes, you should not trust everything it says, it is very powerful and not directly opposed to us nor any particular one of us. As long as we don't antagonize it, we will be fine. The Coronal of the Liminals could be a useful ally, however, but I won't take it by myself due to the risks involved. I propose we open communications between the Council and Maggie. I have a means to achieve this, should it pass."Oppose
"Is your female self also forgetful Yaos?"Wha? How?" ???
"Conversation with Mgaareecaalwa...Maggie is not an absolute no. While yes, you should not trust everything it says, it is very powerful and not directly opposed to us nor any particular one of us. As long as we don't antagonize it, we will be fine. The Coronal of the Liminals could be a useful ally, however, but I won't take it by myself due to the risks involved. I propose we open communications between the Council and Maggie. I have a means to achieve this, should it pass."
"At first I thought that maybe we can learn something from the Void, maybe that it really wasn't so bad as we'd thought. Then the Stone Warriors appeared and then genocides and city-razing happened."Are you not at all curious as to why they are iNcuRsiNG us?"
"We can't risk anything like that happening again.""Exactly. We can't just ignore them when some of them want to destroy us. With as much internal conflict as they have, we could take advantage of the Enemy Mine situation."
"Are you not at all curious as to why they are iNcuRsiNG us?"
"Exactly. We can't just ignore them when some of them want to destroy us. With as much internal conflict as they have, we could take advantage of the Enemy Mine situation."
"Ignoring it is best, just ignoring it.""They certainly aren't ignoring us."
Propose that we close and lock all communications with Void beings.Oppose.
"There are ways we may find out without risking all of existence.""I'm all ears, do tell. If you're going to say 'books', show me a book specifically on stoNe maN iNcuRsioNs and I'll believe you."
"No, we should push them all out of the bubble. They are all the same. Inviting a war between them here would only lead to the destruction of our universe, no matter who or what wins. None of them have a good end goal, by submitting to their will our perfect worlds existence would be completely destroyed!""First, they aren't all the same. Second, we wouldn't need to invite them in. We could have them fight on another front while we keep ours. By knowing what our [sarcasm]sweet, sweet brothers in arms[/sarcasm] are up to, we could act accordingly."
Azem puts in an order with the Dwarves for a personal suit of dragon armor.(I knew I was forgetting something! Thanks for the reminder.)
"They certainly aren't ignoring us."
"I'm all ears, do tell. If you're going to say 'books', show me a book specifically on stoNe maN iNcuRsioNs and I'll believe you."
"First, they aren't all the same. Second, we wouldn't need to invite them in. We could have them fight on another front while we keep ours. By knowing what our [sarcasm]sweet, sweet brothers in arms[/sarcasm] are up to, we could act accordingly."
Could you summarize said book then? I'm sure it would be helpful.
Why do you like withholding information so much Fusil?
The Emperor appears to be sitting on a seat watching the fight and looks very sad.Lette and Vaal appear and protect Yaos, expecting an attack. "Emperor? Is that really you? How are you alive?" I check my link with the Emperor to see if it's really him.
The Dwarves have produced a glittering suit of personal armor for Azem. It seems rather impractical except for dazzling enemies and bribing them. They have also produced a suit of shiny Imperial-styled armor and a jeweled longsword for Yaos. It, too, seems impractical.I find some better smiths who'll make me some top-quality, battle-ready armour and longsword.
Some Yaos-worshipping Dwarves have signed up for the Imperial Yaosian Academy of the Sciences. Regrettably, a significant portion of the more competent ones have significant Void influence however crime-free and normal they would seem at a first glance and have been turned away on this basis.I find a different kingdom with a known hatred of the Void and repeat the process.
Seal away Taol in the form of a bird, once again. Can't let him die on me. Hide him somewhere, again. Will he ever learn?
Taol has already been hidden away.(I CHALLENGE THIS. I already sealed Taol away. It only says that he's simply inactive because KJP made a clerical error.)
(I CHALLENGE THIS. I already sealed Taol away. It only says that he's simply inactive because KJP made a clerical error.)
(Yaos: -6E)(Shenanigans! I call shenanigans! I had two archangels - both more intrinsically powerful than the Emperor and both with more battle experience - between myself and the Emperor.
The Emperor detects your intrusion and sucker-stabs you. He jumps away with your body.
Yaos has been struck down!
Famous Hummingbird (non-follower): "The first god who can demonstrate they are the best shall receive my exclusive worship."Well it isn't Yaos, they died. Four times now.
Sorae: "Make me a better shopkeeper than the Hardboiled Rainbows guy!"Well, first you need an idea of something to sell. With that, it should be easy!
3/16ths-Luminee: "I want to become a mighty warrior."Then train!
(Bullshit. I call absolute bullshit. I had two archangels - both more intrinsically powerful than the Emperor and both with more battle experience - between myself and the Emperor.((Your repeated deaths are integral to the plot, you see))
Both Lette and Vaal would've been extremely on guard, as would I.
Moreover, I would not have put myself in range of the Emperor's attack just to talk to him. I could've spoken very loudly or yelled at him from a small distance if I had to.
Considering that the Fire Sword was lost when Vaaliel died while fused with it, he wouldn't have had the artifact weapon either and would've had to contend with my armour (the old Imperial armour I wore rather than the new Dwarven one) while using presumably a regular mortal weapon, unless a god gave him a new weapon.
Wait a minute, did I die in the DBP? Wouldn't I just returned to the Corporeal Realm or the Human Plane (depending on where I was before I entered the DBP) instead of perma-dying?
On top of that, the whole point of spending 2 Essence of a permanent body is to have it take the hit for me if I were to be struck down. Sure I'd still lose a bit of Essence from the ordeal but I wouldn't lose all of it.)
47.01: Close and lock all communication with Void Beings (1-1/14)
+1 from Yaos
-1 from Cim
Famous Hummingbird non-follower: "That leaves me with 13 gods. Who among you is the best?"Define best. Each god is "best" at a different thing.
Yaos (Ambition, Coasts): 0/1, 7-8He is dead, for now...
Do you not think he was rather stupid to not be more careful around the false emperor? I mean, he got killed by him once already, and the emperor was found dead in a shallow grave...Vaal: "The false Emperor was supposedly destroyed by Lette. Considering that we watched it get vaporised we had good reason to be believe it was utterly destroyed."
Lette: "Hey! He's also come back to life three times and it's only a matter of time until that number goes up to four! I think....... but yeah! No other god has managed to die and come back to life. Only Yaos - the BEST god! - could ever manage such a feat! No matter what you do to him or how many enemies he has, she'll ALWAYS come back and come out on top! Praise Yaos!"Famous Hummingbird (non-follower): "The first god who can demonstrate they are the best shall receive my exclusive worship."Well it isn't Yaos, they died. Four times now.
The stoNe meN everywhere let out a bloodcurdling cry and stop moving completely. Owners of stoNe meN also cry out soon for having to wash and clean on their own now."This is wierd...."
"Maybe we should just leave Yaos dead this time. It seems the universe has something against him.""Shut the hell up Void slave! What you think we didn't notice? Yaos has been doing more than anyone else to fight the Void so you want to throw her into it to please your masters, don't you! Then you go on about how YOU hate the Void so much but then try to open up com channels with them!? You are a liar, a hypocrite, and a servant of the Void!"
Lette: "Hey! He's also come back to life three times and it's only a matter of time until that number goes up to four! I think....... but yeah! No other god has managed to die and come back to life. Only Yaos - the BEST god! - could ever manage such a feat! No matter what you do to him or how many enemies he has, she'll ALWAYS come back and come out on top! Praise Yaos!"
"At least it seems his death stopped the Stone Soldiers, for the time being. We have the books back as well, we may examine anything we want to the fullest extent."But we already stopped them from being a threat, so whatever.
Yaos can't repay her debt to you?"Hey Azem! How would you like to be the proud owner of several moons and a gas giant?" 8)
And Yaos' angels, Fusil came back to life as well, remember?"Please. He only came back to life ONCE! Yaos came back to life THREE TIMES! That means that Yaos is at least THREE TIMES better than Fusil! No offence, Fusil. Not everyone can be as good as Yaos. Be proud of who you are." ;D
(There are only five megabeasts right now... Just search it)
"Speaking of taking dead god's things, how do you guys want to split his Empire? Ill take the army, replace the Inquisition with normal guards, if none of you mind. I did help pay for the humans, and was the one who suggested them in the first place. Also, I think that knife was mine to start with. We should also raid that Torturing Shadowrelm for lost souls.""As secular ruler of the Empire, I veto all this. The knife belongs to me as Yaos' heir."
Lette demands that Grauel rebuild Telialas and Zephemural to satisfy the eye-for-an-eye rule for attacking the capital.That's really not the spirit of the eye for an eye principle I was advocating. I had told Yaos that she should try and take something of equal value to what I took. I never said I would give anything. If you want help from me you have to make a deal with me. Tell me the price of the angels in essence and I'll tell you what it will cost you both for me to recreate your angel friends.
I say that the holdings of Yaos should go to no one. Not even the council. Everyone's going to be fighting over it, and I don't foresee any agreement between everyone happening at all...
"I once again claim the Humans as my esteemed children. Sappira, Rubin, please escort the angels of Yaos to the plane of Greed before something unpleasant happens to them."The Yaosian angels move to the plane of Greed.
Wait... err were those just your named weapons? I haven't really been paying that much attention to what Yaos does when it doesn't involve what I helped pay for. Same principle applies to the deal though."They're our swords, yes. It was about 10 or 11 Essence to create them together, if I remember correctly."
"The Shadow Realm: basically a dungeon for evil souls. They stay there for a while before being automatically released. Just like a corporeal dungeon. There are no torture devices or anything like that, no diseases, and no abusive jailors or fellow inmates. In many ways it's actually better than a real dungeon."
"The Inquisition: An Empire-run organisation dedicated to the discovery and destruction of Void cults. Lately, it has helped with more civic duties such as regular police work and evacuations. If the Inquistion was named anything else I don't believe the gods would be as angry with it as they are now."
"The Empire: originally founded by the Angel-Emperor of Mankind. It is a secular territory ruled first by the Emperor, and then by the Controller Angels and myself. As a sapient being, I have as much a right to rule ANY secular sovereignty as anyone else, and to deny me that right is narrow-minded, demeaning, and possibly racist, depending on whether you view angels as slaves or not."
"Any attacks against the Empire will be met with appropriate force."
A sub-council of ordinary Humans is elected by the populace to represent the common people of the Empire. They will assist the Council of Angels and Emperor Vaal in the running of the Empire.
Yaos is right about the Strange Knife and the Give Fusil's stuff back proposal. That was not a mistake.
"Secular means not ruled by the Gods. As you theoretically take orders directly from your god, this would mean that it is in no way secular. Control should be given over to a human, to govern humans.""Our god is dead so we don't have to take orders from anyone (that's not an insult, btw). Even if she wasn't, it would still be secular. Kings, emperors, and other sovereignties choose to be commanded and ordered by gods all the time."
"I thought it would be enough excuse for me to have a valid claim over it. In reality, I want to examine it. I don't know who really made it, where it came from, or why. I do not remember anything about it in the book I read on Void weaponry. It is interesting, and it is a weapon, so I claim it.""Just because your sphere is Weapons does not mean all weapons belong to you. Just because Yaos' sphere is Humans doesn't mean that all Humans belong to her."
@Yaos AngelsPrivate.
You want to discuss the deal in public or private? I already have several possible pact options in mind.
"It wasn't a threat. As ruler of a sovereignty, I was just affirming the right of my sovereignty to exist. It is a common thing for both new and old sovereigns to occasionally publicly affirm their sovereignty's existence and independence by claiming that attacks, annexations, or conquests attempted against said sovereignty would be met with force. I apologise for making it sound like I was threatening you. I was simply going through the motions." ((It's why I made sure to put some space in between the declaration and my response to you.))Quote"Any attacks against the Empire will be met with appropriate force."
"And yet again, a puny Angel attempts to threaten me. There is nothing stopping me from killing you, save the God of Greed's good will."
Less trivially, us angels are merely a branch of Humans, just as your angels - or at least Tykki - are literally weapons. Please don't say or imply that we angels are somehow less than Humans simply because we serve Yaos directly.My angels are not literally oceans...
"Our god is dead so we don't have to take orders from anyone (that's not an insult, btw). Even if she wasn't, it would still be secular. Kings, emperors, and other sovereignties choose to be commanded and ordered by gods all the time."
"On your final point, I would first like to say that Humans must be spelt with a capital 'H'. To spell their names without the capital is considered racist as every other sapient race is spelled with a capital, leading to the implication that Humans are inferior and not worthy of the capital 'H'."
"Less trivially, us angels are merely a branch of Humans, just as your angels - or at least Tykki - are literally weapons. Please don't say or imply that we angels are somehow less than Humans simply because we serve Yaos directly."
"Just because your sphere is Weapons does not mean all weapons belong to you. Just because Yaos' sphere is Humans doesn't mean that all Humans belong to her."
The Empire Void Annihilation Corps (EVAC) is founded - a group dedicated to the discovery and eradication of Void cults. It uses several mundane and supernatural techniques to undertake its missions. Aside from its mission against the Void, it helps maintain the peace during inactivity, as well as finding and bringing down mortal criminal organisations like slaver gangs or extortion rackets.
"It wasn't a threat. As ruler of a sovereignty, I was just affirming the right of my sovereignty to exist. It is a common thing for both new and old sovereigns to occasionally publicly affirm their sovereignty's existence and independence by claiming that attacks, annexations, or conquests attempted against said sovereignty would be met with force. I apologise for making it sound like I was threatening you. I was simply going through the motions." ((It's why I made sure to put some space in between the declaration and my response to you.))Quote"Any attacks against the Empire will be met with appropriate force."
"And yet again, a puny Angel attempts to threaten me. There is nothing stopping me from killing you, save the God of Greed's good will."
((I could have sworn I'd already written something like this. I guess it was just lost in an edit.))
My angels are not literally oceans..."I know they're not oceans. I was speaking of Fusil's angels specifically."
And great, you name changed the inquisition. The problem was not the name, it was the methods. The whole (IIRC) "A store made a muffin oddly, so you blew it up and executed everyone who went there" thing.
"(How in Fusil's name can you tell if I speak something with a capitol letter, anyway?)""
And great, you name changed the inquisition. The problem was not the name, it was the methods. The whole (IIRC) "A store made a muffin oddly, so you blew it up and executed everyone who went there" thing.Lette: "In our defence, the Inquisition was new and Yaos didn't know how to properly handle
"Pick a gem folks, we need a color to work with.""Black, please."
"You have to look your shiniest in this plane."
"The Empire: originally founded by the Angel-Emperor of Mankind. It is a secular territory ruled first by the Emperor, and then by the Controller Angels and myself. As a sapient being, I have as much a right to rule ANY secular sovereignty as anyone else, and to deny me that right is narrow-minded, demeaning, and possibly racist, depending on whether you view angels as slaves or not."Also, I get the feeling that you don't actually know what racist, or secular, means...
You are created by gods, to serve gods. You are, by your very nature, Divine, which is what defines 'religion' in this world. Attempting to separate the Gods from everyday life is rather pointless in the first place, given we are quite evidently here and hold near-absolute power over the world in comparison to a mortal, but if you were to try, which is what Secularism would be, it would by necessity exclude angels, given they are beings of a divine nature."I am created by a god, yes. I was created to serve a god, yes. I also have free will, and can choose not to serve said god. Moreover, I will simply say that I am what I am, and that 'angel' is the closest label that fits what I am."
And no, that is not what racism is; it is quite evident, that, say, the Armu are almost always better weaponsmiths than Humans. It's simply a fact. Racism is the preconceived judgement of an individual based solely on their race, rather than on the quality of their individual character, as individuals can depart from the tendencies of their race."That's not what I said. I just said we were being treated as non-sapient slaves rather than sapient, free-willed individuals. We are being judged to be unfit to rule kingdoms based simply on the fact that we are angels. We are simply a branch of Humans, like the Mumans, yet we apparently must play by different rules and are not entitled to equal rights. It is wrong."
Finally, you have a flaw in your logic, on several accounts. I am saying that if a being that was assisted in their rise to power by a divine entity, or a being designed primarily to advance the agenda of a specific divine entity, is a ruler? Then it is no longer a secular government. Additionally, that has nothing to do with religious freedom. Simply because the ruler gives praise to Azem, that does not mean their subjects could not worship Fusil. The important part here is that they serve the people, not the god, first, in order for it to be considered secular."You make a better point here, but I must also rebuke you. There are more angles here than whether or not a ruler's agenda is for his people or for his god. If a ruler were to rule a kingdom and exploit it to no end for his own pleasure, is he not secular? He's not working for his people, but he's not working for a god either. If he ruled in the name of another Human, would he not still be a secular ruler? He is ruling for neither himself nor his people but he is not working for a god yet he is still secular."
Azem sighs and glares menacingly at the Yaosian Angels."As you say."
"I do believe that's quite enough. All this talking does is anger gods."
"I am created by a god, yes. I was created to serve a god, yes. I also have free will, and can choose not to serve said god. Moreover, I will simply say that I am what I am, and that 'angel' is the closest label that fits what I am."
"That's not what I said. I just said we were being treated as non-sapient slaves rather than sapient, free-willed individuals. We are being judged to be unfit to rule kingdoms based simply on the fact that we are angels. We are simply a branch of Humans, like the Mumans, yet we apparently must play by different rules and are not entitled to equal rights. It is wrong."
"You make a better point here, but I must also rebuke you. There are more angles here than whether or not a ruler's agenda is for his people or for his god. If a ruler were to rule a kingdom and exploit it to no end for his own pleasure, is he not secular? He's not working for his people, but he's not working for a god either. If he ruled in the name of another Human, would he not still be a secular ruler? He is ruling for neither himself nor his people but he is not working for a god yet he is still secular."
"You make some pretty good points there, especially with your mentioning of Fusil. There are some questions or scenarios I'd like to ask though. They're pretty simple so they shouldn't take up to much of your time, great elder god. Other gods, please feel free to answer them. I'm starting to like this discussion now that it's moved away from militaristic and into intellectual."
"One: if we also declared independence from Yaos, no longer being his willing servants, would we no longer be a theocracy?"
"Three: what is the problem with a theocratic government in the first place? Grauel seems to have authority over every Gruen state yet he doesn't get any flak for it."
"Four: if we declared independence but retained close ties such as friendship with Yaos, would it be any more theocratic than if we were friends with no or all other gods?"
"Five: what if we were to have a constitutional theocratic government? It's similar to a constitutional monarchy where there is still a hereditary monarchy but the real ruler is elected from the people. In this case, the real government is a combination of an elected council, a non-elected council, and an absolute ruler, and the traditional head of state is Yaos."
"Six: finally, and I think you'll find this most interesting, is that instead of the traditional head of state being Yaos, the head of state is the Council of Gods themselves. Now, we'll likely not agree to this but it would be nice to hear some opinions on the matter."
"Actually, that scenario was supposed to simply be the subject of intellectual debate. We would never agree to such a premise. No offence, but you gods argue far too often and some of you never even bother voting on issues. One of the things that frustrated Yaos was that he was the only one who made sure to vote on every proposal."
"Yes, you would no longer be a theocracy if you did not listen directly to Yaos."We no longer directly listen to Yaos."
"The God of Hunger has: A. Not declared that his government over them is secular, B. Created them himself, instead of council action, and C. Is still alive. Yaos had no hand in the creation of the humans, he only declared them his for some indistingusable reason. I suggested the council action that created them, along with the rest of the council's support, made them. Why would Yaos get control over a race we created? It also wouldn't be a problem if Yaos's rule wasn't so harsh, even The God of Hunger doesn't randomly execute his followers..."
"Yes. You know that wouldn't be true independence, if every suggestion of Yaos is law, it is still a theocracy.""From now on, any law that ANY god wants to pass in the Empire must be run through the Emperor, the Council of Angels, and the Council of Humans."
"Yaos is dead, and it matters not what pathetic Angels trapped in a plane can do. I declared the council to rule over humanity. First, I vote we disband the thing that replaced the Inquisition. Is there any among us who believe that it is anything more than a name change?"
"We no longer directly listen to Yaos."
"There are some problems here. Yaos declared that he was the god of Humans because his literal, physical sphere was Humans. He didn't have a choice in the matter. You suggested the Council create sapients of a kind - not specifically Humans. Gods used the proposal to make various sapients but it was Azem that created and prototyped Humans specifically and he did so without the Council. After that, the Council merely propagated them. If Yaos were to get control over a race, it would probably be because that race is one of his spheres. Now, you could challenge this, but that would mean that you do not get to have control over all weapons, or at least weapons that you yourself did not create. Oh and Yaos did in fact create his own Humans. Several hundreds of thousands, actually."
"Oh and Yaos didn't like the random executions either. That's why he worked very hard on creating procedures where a person must be proven beyond doubt AND have serious enough crimes on their own to warrant execution, as well as the introduction of non-lethal weaponry which proved to be immensely effective. It wasn't perfect, but it was as good as he could make it."
"From now on, any law that ANY god wants to pass in the Empire must be run through the Emperor, the Council of Angels, and the Council of Humans."
"All of Humanity? You do realise that not all Humans in Keshan live within the Empire, and that NO Human on Slythan is part of the Empire either. Again, if you have ANY suggestions for how EVAC should operate, I would gladly incorporate it into their operating procedures. We need SOME kind of task force that can deal with Void cults and angel groups are too small to cover an area as large as an empire."
"Do you take some sick pleasure in insulting me with transparent lies god of Arms?"
"As long as you indirectly listen to him, it will be a theocracy.""We no longer indirectly listen to Yaos."
"I have not created an Empire of all weapons, causing each and every one of the weapons that the other gods have made to worship me. If Yaos wanted to rule his own country, he should have built it. He could have made millions of humans on his own essence, instead of using the ones I had created and paid for. There is no reason for me to allow him control over a race he had not created, and only claimed by using his sphere as an excuse. Aside from that, he is dead."Actually, the original inhabitants of the Empire was made up of the Humans that Yaos personally created."
I know that Yaos struck down people for such 'heresies' as asking politely to be a god, going to an abandoned mill, and other such factors. He ordered the executions directly in those cases."
"As 1/13 leader of the Empire of Humans, I abolish the Emperor (He can't even do much hiding away, anyway.), and the Council of Angels. If they try to stop me, the will be shot. The Council of humans can stay, I guess.""While I thank you for spelling 'Humans' correctly, I should inform you that it is actually called the Empire of Mankind. Moreover, you are not one of the members of the Empire's government. The government, by the way has a total of twenty-one members including myself - not thirteen. If you want to pass a bill, you will have to apply for Imperial citizenship, be accepted as a citizen into the Empire, and lodge a petition with your local Human representative."
"No, just the empire of humanity. Lowercase. Read my lips. I don't know how you can run such an organization, but I would suggest that you should be a lot more selective with who you kill. That is always a good start.""Accepted. EVAC will kill no Void cultists. They will merely be imprisoned."
"All kinds of sick pleasures, Azem. The knife is mine.""If the knife was yours, then why didn't you get it back when the Council voted to give all your stuff back?"
"We no longer indirectly listen to Yaos."
"No one who visited the mill was harmed or interrogated. They were observed from a distance as they were visiting the mill but were otherwise left alone. When no one was at the mill, it was destroyed. As for the apotheoszetic people whom Yaos killed, he did them himself. They weren't executions. She also stopped that practice a long time ago as it was no longer considered Heresy to ask to become a god. Those people are now ignored."
"While I thank you for spelling 'Humans' correctly, I should inform you that it is actually called the Empire of Mankind. Moreover, you are not one of the members of the Empire's government. The government, by the way has a total of twenty-one members including myself - not thirteen. If you want to pass a bill, you will have to apply for Imperial citizenship, be accepted as a citizen into the Empire, and lodge a petition with your local Human representative."
"If the knife was yours, then why didn't you get it back when the Council voted to give all your stuff back?"
Ikaku mercenaries are brought in to train the Paladins and the rest of the Human army in chi techniques.
"Yaos will return. That much is certain."
"He ordered them executed. It was jut blind luck that it was not so.""It also helped that the order was changed shortly after it was given."
"They both had a hand in killing me. You have one sentence to explain why I shouldn't have both the mercenaries and Paladins killed.""They either worship you or weren't part of the attack."
"They either worship you or weren't part of the attack."
That is probably waaaay too accurate.Quote"Yaos will return. That much is certain."
"Judging by the past, he will then be killed again."
"The Ikaku mercenaries being hired are not the same ones who attacked your angels. Most of the Paladins who attacked your angels are dead. They either died during the assault or were killed in Grauel's attack. Less than fifty percent of Paladins attacked your angels. Moreover, as weapon-users, the Paladins worship you. Not as much as Yaos, of course, but they still pay their respects. The Ikakus don't worship you at all but I wasn't referring to them when I mentioned that 'they' worshipped you."
Which of us here, excluding Fusil himself, and please don't answer, Angels of Yaos, this is for Gods alone;
I do. Well, more tiring and annoying, but yes.
How many of us here find the God of Weapons behavior either distasteful, worrying, or insulting?
"Not all weapon users worship me, they would not have likely attempted to murder me if that was so. The Ikaku might very well be the same that attacked me. So why should I not, at the very least, destroy the Paladin? As immortals, the surviving ones likely had a hand in my death.""Well I don't know about all weapon users, but all Paladins certainly do. The entire point of the mission wasn't to kill you - it was to kill or disable your angels in order to prevent you from killing gods when you got out. We tried to ensure your safety by moving you to the Death Battle Plane but that plan fell through when Tory was imprisoned by the Council."
How many of us here find the God of Weapons behavior either distasteful, worrying, or insulting?"I dare say I do. He is hypocritical, patronizing and arrogant. Let me argue these points, as in a proper debate: he is hypocritical, because he doesn't want any rules or laws, wanting to do as he will; however, if someone else tries to do as they will, even if it's something Fusil would do, he tries to bring up the rules and complain to the Council."
Face tentacles? Is that how you call hair or will I be unmaking a city?"Isn't there a rule against megadeaths? Also, are you really gonna pick on a kid just because he has a few face tentacles? It's not his fault, and it doesn't make him any less of a person. I mean really."
if you don't feel like this is at all alarming then I will have the area purged."I find this alarming."
Khaziraad, I have a request. As my spheres now include protection, I would be willing to help make your archangel even more durable, if you were to help me in constructing cathedrals and other grand pieces of architecture within my cities, and for my followers.You see, I wish to make a race of engineers, artisans, and craftspeople, as well as armorsmiths. I feel that your expertise with construction, Khaziraad, and your expertise with trade, quality manufacture, and merchanting, Azem, would aid me greatly in this endeavor. Would you be so kind?"Golems are already good at construction, Dwarves are good artisans and craftspeople, and Gremlins are good engineers. Also, are you really just going to allow him to kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people without even a few words of protest? I mean, really? You're supposed to be the god of Good and Protection. Does that really seem Good to you?"
Actually, now that Yaos is dead I believe Fusil is the only one who thinks the void is purely evil.
You seem to have issues with logic Fusil. 'We all know it' and 'I made it quite clear' means we are relying on your word for this. And we have very little reason to trust you, given your history of hiding things from the council, your history of having Yaos as an enemy in addition to trying to kill Cim, thus giving you cause to attempt to present it in the worst light possible, and your suspiciously disappearing books on the Void.
Going by this book, not all void beings are evil. It outright states that some void beings reinterpret deals for the god's benefit.
hallowed-out arrow shafts to hold drinksI really doubt the efficiency of arrows to hold liquids. Perhaps use hammers or ballista bolts?
I really doubt the efficiency of arrows to hold liquids. Perhaps use hammers or ballista bolts?
And not all void beings would ask to destroy things... A smith might want you to help create an artifact involving their sphere.
Yet should any sculptures start moving I will not hesitate."The method by which we can stop them is rather easy now that we know how. Maybe a little hesitation is in order?"
I'm not actualy that woried abaut the Null themselves, but mortals tampering with powers that even we do not fully understand can only bring ruin, as we have seen with stone men. Priests were probably thinking that they were making Humans' lives easyer, and look where that got us."I say with no sarcasm that that is one of the best-told and most reasonable arguments I have ever heard. It's as if days of fruitless argument and cyclical debate just.....disappeared from my mind." ((That's also an OOC opinion. Just....wow.))
As for grand structures you desire Darruth, I'd be happy to help, though you needn't even my help specificly. Golems wander the lands constructing things cheaply, or even for free if materials are provided. For structures of grandeur, many would flock to you.Dibs.
The second Feast of Fusil has begun. Unfortunately, on both worlds, the region around the feast is hit by a severe freak snowstorm, and a blizzard rages over the valley of the feast for its duration. This manages to kill off many of the weaker attendees. Serac and Billy see little happening beyond attendees feasting in separate tents.
(Andres: Maybe try doing less while you're dead? It's kind of against the spirit of being dead to add so much.)(As you wish.)
The Hummingbird seems to reflect on Grauel's words. The next day, a group of assorted people gather at a nearby hill waving various metallic implements and insulting various gods.Grauel, you could have been a little more kind when dealing with mortals... Instead of laughing at them.
Two of Grauel's angels have been found dead. They are both covered in a shroud reading "HoDo"
"Serac, that punishment, while certainly creative, is not a very good one. Giving possibly dozens of warnings before cursing their eternal souls is both too harsh and too lenient at the same time. Once you're done, would you let me judge and punish them?"Certainly.
"I want you and any other listening god to show me who is the best god. Whoever succeeds gets my exclusive worship and the remainder of my life for the spreading of the faith."First, you must explain what you mean by best.
"Besides, I`m the best. What other god could hope to stop the powers of ice and snow!"
"Continue your most amusing discussion."
Whatever you say Fusil. You are better than the god of Snow, and yet you could not protect your followers from his element. You say he should have helped, but if you are the best surely you wouldn't need his help?Quote"Besides, I`m the best. What other god could hope to stop the powers of ice and snow!""If you could do that, then why had my followers died at the Feast? I do not believe it was you who caused the storms, but surly you could have saved them..
My followers can be safe under my blade, not even a God may harm them without retaliation.
"The rest are all morons"Ouch.
Whatever you say Fusil. You are better than the god of Snow, and yet you could not protect your followers from his element. You say he should have helped, but if you are the best surely you wouldn't need his help?
And you admitted Tykki was being beaten by the forces attacking you when you died the first time...
And you died. That is not exactly the mark of the best god.
The angels are not based off of Tykki... Isn't she a walking gun monster?
And your original world idea was shot down, remember? No one liked it, and so the rest of the council made something else.
If you are the best god, and created a perfect world then why can your followers not even have a Feast without freezing to death?
Gift the hummingbird with overpowering hunger and the ability to digest anything. Increase its size to that of a dragon and give it enhanced strength.I... Would not call that a gift exactly. Being hungry all the time and eating everything?
I would consider it better to not get attacked in the first place.QuoteAnd you died. That is not exactly the mark of the best god."I was tied up and attacked by three gods, and still was only dead for a few seconds. Is that not impressive?"
So Yaos was the best, because you made your angels in his form? :PQuoteThe angels are not based off of Tykki... Isn't she a walking gun monster?"The powers, ideas and general outline are based off of Tykki. Tykki's insides are made of guns, from the outside she is indistinguishable for a human. Remember how you yourself thought my Angels where simply humans, in the library?"
"Fusil you are alienating the masses here. While I see your additions to the world as worthwhile, your constant threatening of everyone who goes against you is a petty annoyance. You should not be a warmonger, but a peacekeeper."
I would consider it better to not get attacked in the first place.
And anyways, how did you come back? I remember draining your corpse for the council's use...
So Yaos was the best, because you made your angels in his form? :P
"Powers, ideas, and general outline"... What? What about the angel that is a building with an atomizing hammer?
I've been assuming you left a decoy to drain, but how can I know it wasn't the void that brought you back?QuoteAnd anyways, how did you come back? I remember draining your corpse for the council's use..."You where part of the team that killed me. There is no way in the worlds that I would tell you."
And you ignore my angel...Quote"Powers, ideas, and general outline"... What? What about the angel that is a building with an atomizing hammer?"He is still sentient, sapient, god-linked, limited teleportation, and all the other things that had been thrown into the standard Angel package. They still perform the same function, even if they do not look alike. It was I who came up with all this, when designing my Tykki."
I don't actually believe Tykki could be defeated in one and one combat by any of our angels...except Khaziraad's. I believe the God of Architecture's current archangel could simply obliterate Tykki, or at least deal enough damage that she would be in no condition to continue combat.QuoteAnd you admitted Tykki was being beaten by the forces attacking you when you died the first time...
"As I said, Tykki had been ordered to fake her own defeat, in order to insure that I would be able to revive properly. That is why she was capable of escaping Cim's bonds easily, even while I was imprisoned."
INSTANT REPLAYQuoteAnd you died. That is not exactly the mark of the best god.
"I was tied up and attacked by three gods, and still was only dead for a few seconds. Is that not impressive?"
Fusil has been struck down!
Fusil has been struck up!Seconds? I mean, I'm sure it seemed that way to you, but it was more like five ticks, and if each tick is somewhere between a decade and a century of mortal time...that's more like somewhere between 50-500 years. Probably close to 100-200 years.
Considering that he was simply pointing out a flaw in your logic, not insulting you in any way other than saying that he doesn't think you're the best god, which I believe none of us think, no, it doesn't warrant a threat. Though I will take your side in one thing; whoever committed such an atrocity must be brought to justice. I have no idea who at this point, though...Quote"Fusil you are alienating the masses here. While I see your additions to the world as worthwhile, your constant threatening of everyone who goes against you is a petty annoyance. You should not be a warmonger, but a peacekeeper."
"And this guy. Where was he when the Stone Soldier where attacking? He apparently thinks that an insult at the recent deaths of my followers does not warrant a threat, even with the possibility Serak was responsible..."
Really? So you believe that the rest of us would have been so moronic as to be incapable of realizing that those features were beneficial to include in an Angel, who are designed to be servants? That we would have made servants that could not even distinguish between themselves and the outside world? That we would have found angels that could not think for themselves to be good to delegate tasks to? That we would have made servants, specifically for us, without actually having them connected to us? That we would have limited our servant's movements to a single plane, and to the speed of their feet, or wings? All this we would have been so idiotic as to do, without your oh-so-magificent guidance, great Fusil-on-high?Quote"Powers, ideas, and general outline"... What? What about the angel that is a building with an atomizing hammer?
"He is still sentient, sapient, god-linked, limited teleportation, and all the other things that had been thrown into the standard Angel package. They still perform the same function, even if they do not look alike. It was I who came up with all this, when designing my Tykki."
I've been assuming you left a decoy to drain, but how can I know it wasn't the void that brought you back?
And you ignore my angel...
And most of those things could apply to a teleporting priest as well.
And yes, I present this in public because it is as much meant to act as deterrent to Fusil as it is to act as actual shield.
I don't actually believe Tykki could be defeated in one and one combat by any of our angels...except Khaziraad's. I believe the God of Architecture's current archangel could simply obliterate Tykki, or at least deal enough damage that she would be in no condition to continue combat.
Seconds? I mean, I'm sure it seemed that way to you, but it was more like five ticks, and if each tick is somewhere between a decade and a century of mortal time...that's more like somewhere between 50-500 years. Probably close to 100-200 years.
Considering that he was simply pointing out a flaw in your logic, not insulting you in any way other than saying that he doesn't think you're the best god, which I believe none of us think, no, it doesn't warrant a threat. Though I will take your side in one thing; whoever committed such an atrocity must be brought to justice. I have no idea who at this point, though...
Really? So you believe that the rest of us would have been so moronic as to be incapable of realizing that those features were beneficial to include in an Angel, who are designed to be servants? That we would have made servants that could not even distinguish between themselves and the outside world? That we would have found angels that could not think for themselves to be good to delegate tasks to? That we would have made servants, specifically for us, without actually having them connected to us? That we would have limited our servant's movements to a single plane, and to the speed of their feet, or wings? All this we would have been so idiotic as to do, without your oh-so-magificent guidance, great Fusil-on-high?
Do not insult the intelligence of literally everyone here by insinuating that we would be incapable of such basic logic. Moreover; get over yourself. If you were as good as you say you are, why do any of us even exist? We would be dead, instantly, as soon as anything we did came into conflict with what you desired. You are not perfect. This world is not perfect. Perfection is something to be striven towards, not to be content at. If the world is perfect, where is your motivation? What could your goal possibly be, if everything is as it should be, and could get no better?
And as for you, mortal Hummingbird...what makes you worthy of giving a task to Gods? You simply wish to brew conflict, and watch it for your own amusement, the suffering of other mortals in the process, and the strife it causes in the Heavens, be damned. Begone with you! The Gods grant boons to their followers; why would any of us wish to grant a boon upon you? For your amusement? You disgust me. You are not worthy of giving worship to the Gods; your worship would be false, and your patron would shift with the winds, as the Gods grew in power or prestige, always trying to cling to the winner, like a mercenary without a sense of honor or professional pride. I will speak no more to you, and will be greatly displeased if your own followers continue to make trouble in an attempt to lay claim to dominion over the Gods.
Silly hummingbird(Stole my catchphrase...-.-)
"Stone Angel"(There was a Stone Angel??)
"Your openly creating an alliance just to spite me? Your insults are insulting. Are you attempting to make me want to kill you?"Self-defense and spite are not the same thing. Also, you're demonstrating quite nicely why I feel I need to form such an alliance; if it makes you feel better if I say I feel threatened by your threats, so be it. But if you make threats, people will react, and not always in the way you wish them to. So, I make an alliance in an attempt for both self-preservation, and to help others who may feel the same way.
"The God of Archetectur's servant was beat up by a few stone men and a stone Angel. Tykki defeated the Stone Angel and more stone men then the Castle Angel could manage, without blowing herself half up. The fact that she can teleport to the other side of the bubble faster than It can swing Its hammer means Tykki is all but immune to the explosive effects, not counting her literal invulnerability and ability to block the weapon normally."Actually, untrue. His servant was injured grievously because it's own power was so enormous that it could not withstand it's full force. Considering that angel is partially made up of a plane, and if I remember correctly, took several of your nukes to the metaphorical face without dropping, that only says something about it's power, not it's durability. I doubt the invulnerability is total, and if she were to block, his hammer would simply change whatever was used to block into the chemical compounds it does anything else, I believe. And, of course, there's the fact that saying that Tykki can retreat faster than it can attack means she isn't actually fighting it; she's running away. Or strategically retreating, if you prefer, but the fact remains that she can do very little to him, and staying around long enough to manage to do so means risking getting blown up.
"Have you not been paying attention, or did the God Manager drop you on the head during creation? I was revived instantly, but that did not end my sentence. I finished the rest of it, finishing at six ticks, secretly. I had been revived the whole time, but if I had loudly shouted it to the heavens I would still be vulnerable in prison."Mmmmm....no, I don't really believe you. For one thing, there's a lot of flaws in your logic, and that contradicts other things you've said, like saying that Yaos died when you revived. Or, for instance, the fact that none of the times Yaos revived, which is our only other sample for revival, the revival of the god was announced publicly. I do not believe that it would be possible to hide such a thing, actually. Plus, as I said, it contradicts your own statements.
"Interestingly enough, Tykki tells me that there was no fighting going on during the storms. Now, what god has shown an illogical distaste for fighting, and a willingness to use essence to spread his will on the planets? Only time will tell..."Illogical distaste? No fighting going on during a horrendous life-ending blizzard catastrophe? I have made the Templars, I have made a warrior race, and I have shown more of a distaste to murder people without cause, at least more than you(and yes, I'm referring to Cim. Again.). And I suppose no other God has used essence to try and gain followers ever, after all, I mean, that's not what Gods do, after all.
Really? So you believe that the rest of us would have been so moronic as to be incapable of realizing that those features were beneficial to include in an Angel, who are designed to be servants? That we would have made servants that could not even distinguish between themselves and the outside world? That we would have found angels that could not think for themselves to be good to delegate tasks to? That we would have made servants, specifically for us, without actually having them connected to us? That we would have limited our servant's movements to a single plane, and to the speed of their feet, or wings? All this we would have been so idiotic as to do, without your oh-so-magificent guidance, great Fusil-on-high?
Do not insult the intelligence of literally everyone here by insinuating that we would be incapable of such basic logic. Moreover; get over yourself. If you were as good as you say you are, why do any of us even exist? We would be dead, instantly, as soon as anything we did came into conflict with what you desired. You are not perfect. This world is not perfect. Perfection is something to be striven towards, not to be content at. If the world is perfect, where is your motivation? What could your goal possibly be, if everything is as it should be, and could get no better?
"That was the real Durrath. As you can see, he has a bit of an inferiority complex. Because he is so inferior. He is so pathetic, he thinks that yelling at innocent mortals makes him more powerful. No wonder he was voted the worst among the gods, ah?"Yes, so mature of you, Fusil. You truly are a God among Gods, demonstrating your incredible ability to resort to petty insult and blatant falsehoods.
(At least someone said it, though. You aren't exactly alive right now... Plus, stealing catchphrases is a fun hobby.)Silly hummingbird(Stole my catchphrase...-.-)
Self-defense and spite are not the same thing. Also, you're demonstrating quite nicely why I feel I need to form such an alliance; if it makes you feel better if I say I feel threatened by your threats, so be it. But if you make threats, people will react, and not always in the way you wish them to. So, I make an alliance in an attempt for both self-preservation, and to help others who may feel the same way.
Actually, untrue. His servant was injured grievously because it's own power was so enormous that it could not withstand it's full force. Considering that angel is partially made up of a plane, and if I remember correctly, took several of your nukes to the metaphorical face without dropping, that only says something about it's power, not it's durability. I doubt the invulnerability is total, and if she were to block, his hammer would simply change whatever was used to block into the chemical compounds it does anything else, I believe. And, of course, there's the fact that saying that Tykki can retreat faster than it can attack means she isn't actually fighting it; she's running away. Or strategically retreating, if you prefer, but the fact remains that she can do very little to him, and staying around long enough to manage to do so means risking getting blown up.
Mmmmm....no, I don't really believe you. For one thing, there's a lot of flaws in your logic, and that contradicts other things you've said, like saying that Yaos died when you revived. Or, for instance, the fact that none of the times Yaos revived, which is our only other sample for revival, the revival of the god was announced publicly. I do not believe that it would be possible to hide such a thing, actually. Plus, as I said, it contradicts your own statements.
Illogical distaste? No fighting going on during a horrendous life-ending blizzard catastrophe? I have made the Templars, I have made a warrior race, and I have shown more of a distaste to murder people without cause, at least more than you(and yes, I'm referring to Cim. Again.). And I suppose no other God has used essence to try and gain followers ever, after all, I mean, that's not what Gods do, after all.
Those would be Avatars, not Angels, then. I was not even around when you made Tykki, so how can you be so sure that I would not have made an Angel before you did? My angels, at least some of them, are actually quite different from Tykki in significant ways...besides, I'd like to point out that the prototype of a weapon tends to have all the bugs and design flaws, that get edited out in later iterations. Unless you believe a musket to be superior to a Dragunov sniper rifle?
The Imperial Cavalry is sent to help the Imperial Army with their duties of patrolling trade routes. Patrols are more closely limited to the ones that provide the most profit to the Empire.
The injured labourers are healed. The Humanos Grande Controlados help with the building of the Grand Temple.
Those cities that have been razed by the Stone Warriors and are devoid of life have their streets cleared of rubble by the Humanos Grande. Imperial colonists are sent to these cities where they will rebuild with the assistance of the Humanos Regiment. Shinies and other treasures found inside the treasuries of the cities will be recorded and sent to the capital.
"Its not my fault if your followers can`t stand a bit of cold weather."Quote"Besides, I`m the best. What other god could hope to stop the powers of ice and snow!"
"If you could do that, then why had my followers died at the Feast? I do not believe it was you who caused the storms, but surly you could have saved them.."
"Its not my fault if your followers can`t stand a bit of cold weather."
....Did you just steal and loot the cities you destroyed from beyond the grave?(Kind of, sort of, mu.
whoever committed such an atrocity must be brought to justice. I have no idea who at this point, though..."We already caught the guys who did it, luv. They were some Yaosian priests from the capital who were making them by pronouncing Yaos' name wrong or something. If I remember correctly, the punishment was bitch-slapping, expulsion from the priesthood, and execution. The Stone Warriors stopped appearing after that. As for how exactly they were being created and such, we have no idea. We didn't even know about no 'Stone Angel' until Fusil mentioned it recently."
I would like to see you try to make an alliance.QuoteSelf-defense and spite are not the same thing. Also, you're demonstrating quite nicely why I feel I need to form such an alliance; if it makes you feel better if I say I feel threatened by your threats, so be it. But if you make threats, people will react, and not always in the way you wish them to. So, I make an alliance in an attempt for both self-preservation, and to help others who may feel the same way."This is just insulting. Do I have any reason you are not simply attempting to kill me, as the last 'alliance' against me had? Perhaps I should form my own group, to defend us from your stupidity? It is only a matter of time before you do something that gets millions of mortals killed..."
The regiments notice strange vegetation around the buildings and the colonizers notice an eerie presence and unnatural sounds throughout the night. They fearfully set up camp clustered together and make sure to return half an hour before sunset. A child disappears mysteriously a week into their attempt. Events of this sort occur in all of the previously razed towns.All colonists are made to return home. The cities are scanned with the VDD ((WHY DIDN'T I DO THIS SOONER!?)). The missing child is tracked via soul-sensing, chi-sensing, magic-sensing, and scent (via a small group of Cavalrymen).
Laborers injured after poor performance by the remaining Golems have been healed.
"No, what would I gain from harming some of your followers. What I am simply saying is how can you, say you are better than me ,when your followers are so poorly designed."Quote"Its not my fault if your followers can`t stand a bit of cold weather."
"Are you saying you are the one who did this?"
"No, what would I gain from harming some of your followers. What I am simply saying is how can you, say you are better than me ,when your followers are so poorly designed."
What does The Truth even look like?
By the way, the Yaosian angels are part of the Darruthian alliance. If that doesn't change anything, then tell me and I'll write up an appropriate response.
(it's not just Darruth in the alliance anymore. Serac at least agreed, I think a couple more from PMs...)(Indeed. Joha at least openly joined the alliance. She was the first one to do so as well.)
I did not kill your followers, Fusil, and am in fact working on finding out who did. You will not believe me, of course; you use deception often enough that you expect it from others as a matter of course. But it is nonetheless true.
Second; feel free to attempt to form an alliance to shield yourself as well. I fear you might have difficulty procuring allies who have not been alienated by your rash and imprudent behaviour, however.
(You still can't seem to manage to spell it right. Maybe I should call Fusil Fisul (pronounced fizzle) from now on...)
(also, I could have told you that it would make him more likely to try and kill you, not less...though it's not just Darruth in the alliance anymore. Serac at least agreed, I think a couple more from PMs...)
So is Fusil going to retract or change his demands or not? I've got a response ready in either case.
Stirk: Please spell Durrath as Darruth for non-in-character posts regardless of presence on the IC or OOC thread
"Absolutely not. This is a fight between the Alliance and you - not just the Empire of Mankind. Moreover, we go to a completely barren wasteland where no one will get hurt an no one gets an inherent advantage."
"Oh really? Look Fusil, how about we call all this off and you just let us be, ok? There's no point in us fighting except giving a Void being a good source of entertainment which I do NOT want to do."
"We will go for controlled combat. Total war benefits no one."
"On that condition that you don't die I'm going to have to rebuke for two reasons.
One: other gods may not seek the death of gods but if you were to "accidentally" get killed in this engagement then it wasn't the purposeful seeking of your death.
Two: we Yaosian forces whose god doesn't tell them to do anything are not bound by Council Rules and thus we may freely kill you. Thus, if you die, no one will automatically win the battle. The battle is won when one side is entirely annihilated. If you want to sit out the fight, we won't hold it against you. I'm disappointed that you would try to trick us like that, though. Your dying would mean nothing since you'll get everything you want and you'll just come back to life like you did last time you died."
"Now, as for rules, I think that no fighting forces other than those who are there for the initial battle may fight, help, assist, or influence the battle in any way to prevent ambushes or cheap moves. Also, no dead god Essence monsters. Is this acceptable?"
The weapons seem to have enough Void influence to trigger the VDD.So Fusil's in that deep with the Void, eh? Well what about the EC-1 crossbow bolts? Everything and everyone in the academy is scanned for Void influence. Everything with Void influence is destroyed (in case of equipment) or cast out (in case of personnel). Only theoretical stuff like research notes and stuff are preserved. ISAY moves to a new building and begins working on armour that can aid in mobility, perhaps using alchemy.
It seems that most everyone, regardless of skill in any area, is inept at chi techniques. Most of the Imperial generals agree to pray to Yaos' angels.Luckily, everyone is able to use chi techniques so the only thing needed is more practice. The Imperial generals are told that worshipping the angels aren't necessary at all. Prayer should only be used like a faster, more efficient courier.
"Heh. That wasn't a real condition. I just wanted to see if you would really attempt to kill me. It seems that there will be no problem with me fighting on the front line personally, then, if my life is at risk. A few mortal armies against the God of Weapons, his Angels, and whatever other forces he decides to bring into combat? This should be interesting. I wonder how many tentacles I will have to make to wipe out a single battalion? In any case, I accept these terms. Feel free to write up the contract.""Gonna have to wait on some allies' input first. Until the battle starts, I will not initiate any secret actions against you and I expect you to do the same for me."
"Gonna have to wait on some allies' input first. Until the battle starts, I will not initiate any secret actions against you and I expect you to do the same for me."
No idea why those weapons were contaminated. I used the essence I gained from eating people. Oh... they were criminals and void cultists I think. That might explain it.
Annoyingly repetitive music about jelly rolls, climbing trees, and auspicious days of the week has begun playing in all the gods' ears/hearing. It is extremely frustrating and there is no way to block it out.
Worst case scenario, I turn into an essence monster like the dragon did.
The weapons referred to Telialas and Zephemural(?).
Telialas and Zephemural are put under a full examination - this time including soul-compatibility testing and conversations with the swords - to make sure they're 100% perfect recreations.
The Emperor is checked for everything: Essence, Void, magic, life, sentience, science-stuff, poison, and also the condition of the corpse.Just replace 'condition of the corpse' with 'physical condition'. The Void stuff should've been detected during the full examination.
"I did not expect it to start immediately, take your time. Until then, I will gather my forces. Yaos will not be allowed to join in any form, as that may inspire you to stall for time. This is a real condition, one I will not bend on.""If Yaos were to reappear, we would theoretically stall regardless of if he joins the battle or not. In any case, he'll probably join the battle if he were to show up."
Annoyingly repetitive music about jelly rolls, climbing trees, and auspicious days of the week has begun playing in all the gods' ears/hearing. It is extremely frustrating and there is no way to block it out.Luckily, us archangels are not affected because we are not gods. *smug face* Wait, do these noises affect one's combat ability? Not that I'd be able to do anything about it because Fusil's likely hiding inside his own little Void-made Bubble or something but still.
No idea why those weapons were contaminated. I used the essence I gained from eating people. Oh... they were criminals and void cultists I think. That might explain it."You could've used the Essence you didn't gain from cultists to get the job done. More than that, a large majority of the sacrifices were evil, but they weren't Void-affiliated. We wanted exact replicas and we didn't get exact replicas. We want refunds either by giving us the Essence you gained (possibly in the form of Essence orbs) or get exact replicas of our swords built. Maybe get another god to help you?"
The EC-1 bolts are Void-free, but many of the chi-related rooms and researchers trigger the VDD at least at close range. You probably don't want to scrap those projects (at least not before learning of this).So are the EC-1 bolts complete? Can manufacturing begin? The researchers that test positive for Void influence are made to leave under armed escort. The research done on the Hilda and the Scion are copied and everything that doesn't test positive for Void influence is preserved. The rest is destroyed Inquisition-style. Since the materials used to make prototypes and the research notes used to create them have been copied without Void influence everything should be fine. What can the prototypes do? How many charges do they hold?
Those practicing and on-world continue to practice. Lette and Vaal receive many prayers saying the following:"Yup. System works. Great work everyone."
"Dear Lette and Vaal,
Enemies have been spotted approaching Heldinheim. They appear to be made of stone.
Amen."
"The void is awfully active lately. I assume this has something to do with Yaos coming back?""Putting aside our differences for a while, this likely has nothing to do with Yaos. The Void stuff going on is probably Varee. All this random stuff is right up his alley, and we have a confirmed connection between the monkeys, the Void, and Varee. Moreover, he hasn't been openly active for far more than three Ticks but is still listed as active, so he's probably doing all this stuff as secret actions."
"Speaking of Essence monsters, how's Artisanii? This isn't a jab at you. I'm genuinely concerned about another Essence monster. You've made sure the seal prevents him from going monster?"QuoteWorst case scenario, I turn into an essence monster like the dragon did.
"That...is a pretty bad worse case, actually."
"If Yaos were to reappear, we would theoretically stall regardless of if he joins the battle or not. In any case, he'll probably join the battle if he were to show up."
"You could've used the Essence you didn't gain from cultists to get the job done. More than that, a large majority of the sacrifices were evil, but they weren't Void-affiliated. We wanted exact replicas and we didn't get exact replicas. We want refunds either by giving us the Essence you gained (possibly in the form of Essence orbs) or get exact replicas of our swords built. Maybe get another god to help you?"
"Putting aside our differences for a while, this likely has nothing to do with Yaos. The Void stuff going on is probably Varee. All this random stuff is right up his alley, and we have a confirmed connection between the monkeys, the Void, and Varee. Moreover, he hasn't been openly active for far more than three Ticks but is still listed as active, so he's probably doing all this stuff as secret actions."
"Speaking of Essence monsters, how's Artisanii? This isn't a jab at you. I'm genuinely concerned about another Essence monster. You've made sure the seal prevents him from going monster?"
"We do? When was that? In any case, we know it was Yaos. That is why he died when I came back. Now if you keep talking, I might just have to kill you and take the kingdom without going through this battle. And that would rob me of my fight."At the moment, Vaal is confused. On the one hand Fusil just asked him a direct question that he seems to want answered. On the other hand, he said that he'll kill Vaal if he speaks.
What are these Essence orbs I keep hearing about? I haven't resolved their creation or defined their existence anywhere.
Is it possible for a god to store Essence outside of their body? For example, I extract 1 Essence from myself and put it into an orb. I can absorb that orb to get back te Essence, I could give it to people to carry around, or I could use it for projects.
Storing Essence outside body: Limited amounts and on a case-by-case basis. Attempts to abuse the system will net an immediate warning just as attempting to create overpowered things would.
The EC-1 bolts are mostly working now. Manufacturing may begin, but it will take months to start production.Excellent! Production will begin as soon as possible! Hopefully the factories will be done by the next Tick by using NEBULOUS PASSAGE OF TIME. Just ignore the whole battle preparations. It's been delayed until the other gods get here, after all.
Construction of factories for the production of explosive-class bolts jelly rolls has begun.Jelly rolls? What? How does that work? Explosive-class bolts jelly rolls doesn't even make grammatical sense. Are you having late-night sleepy-time adventures again?
Active player policy has been updated on the local copy.What's the difference? I may have forgotten what the old policy was.
Active players are those who have posted in the last three (3) UTC days.
Cactusman: "Can you make me have spines like the other cacti?"Boost rhe cactus' toughness and lessen his fear of things. A rainbow coloured light ray will bring these changes
Luminee: "I want to learn how to make the Light of Feeding!"Teach the light of Feeding
"Crurcul the Destroying Light: "One of my daughters wants to marry a ceremonial dagger, but I disapprove. What should I do?"Light followers may enter a polygamic relationship, so if her love for the dagger is great, tell her the Light has said that you may present her some (preferrably weaponloving) courtiers for her to consider beside her dagger.
My 300 High Elves accept your invitation to join ISAY, though they are still debating whether or not to join the Empire. They shall study before going off to colonize and find homes in both worlds, half in each.Appropriate housing for all the High Elves is built, as well as an increase in the size of the facilities. Everything will be built without Void influence by Void non-influenced workers, of course.
Quéßäre: Hello, fellow Gods. I have not spoke with these "Void" that you speak, but if what they stand for is unjust, I shall avoid them, until I wage war, that is."Welcome to the Council. The problem with the Null is that they are not all the same, and have conflicts with each other. I would advise against actively dealing with them, but complete avoidance is simply insane. And hopefully you won't have to wage war, but be sure to be ready to defend yourself. It should be simple enough with your spheres."
"You could've used the Essence you didn't gain from cultists to get the job done. More than that, a large majority of the sacrifices were evil, but they weren't Void-affiliated. We wanted exact replicas and we didn't get exact replicas. We want refunds either by giving us the Essence you gained (possibly in the form of Essence orbs) or get exact replicas of our swords built. Maybe get another god to help you?"
"First, get rid of the Inquisition want to be. They are using poor tactics to fight the void, making the world worse instead of better.""I'm confused. Do you want us to reinstate the Inquisition or not? On the one hand they were the best anti-Void force in the universe but on the other hand you told us to be more selective with our targeting."
"I wish my son didn't go to that big Feast! I should have known!""If your son wishes to worship the god of hunger you should not interfere."
"My dog is stuck in the snow! Can you get him to come back?"
"I wish for frozen milk cream."
"I'm confused. Do you want us to reinstate the Inquisition or not? On the one hand they were the best anti-Void force in the universe but on the other hand you told us to be more selective with our targeting."
"If your son wishes to worship the god of hunger you should not interfere."
"They where not. I do not know why you keep claiming they where. The humans have the highest rate of void affinity out of all of creation."
Void Cults are at an all-time low even though the Inquisition reports unchanged amounts of purging."The Inquisition was responsible for taking Void Cults to an all-time low."
"...Whoops." Mind wipe the mortal of everything that I just said.Quote"If your son wishes to worship the god of hunger you should not interfere."
".....The Feast was mine, God of Ice. It was there that the assault happened..."
"The Inquisition was responsible for taking Void Cults to an all-time low."
"The pastry incident happened centuries ago and no one was killed during the incident."
"Humans only seem to have the highest rate of Void affinity out of everyone else because they're the only ones checked for Void influence at all. I'm certain that if you were to go to other races such as the Rani or the Gruen you'd find an equal or greater amount of Void affinity."
"Finally, if you'd just let the Inquisition exist, there would be far less Void influence in the Empire than there is now. I should also remind you that there have been no incidents like the pastry incident or the mill incident in centuries thanks to new tactics and equipment, at least in terms of what the Inquisition has done (even before they were disbanded)."
"Last I checked, you couldn't even successfully remove the Cult influence from the Inquisition. Do your little void detectors even work? They seem to go off almost at random.""Actually, our Psymental angel managed to purge literally all Void influence from the Inquisition. The Void infiltration of the Inquisition happened long before the milestone I mentioned and was snuffed out long before the milestone I mentioned."
"I happen to remember being killed, and centuries is a very short time for a god. I have spent centuries playing 42 pickup with Tykki, for instance.""For a god that may be a short time, but for Humans, that's an absolutely incredible amount of time. I believe the term is 'check your privilege' but I could be wrong. In any case, what these past centuries have been for Humans has been dozens of Ticks for gods, so even by your own perspective it's been a long time since any incidents arose."
"Actually, we/I have checked. The Golems, as you known, have shown little if any influence. The Mountwyrms have also showed some. In case you haven't noticed, humans are the only ones killing themselves in mass, summoning Void Avatars, and other major cult outbreaks that we would certainly notice if other races participated in.""When was the last time you checked? I had to fire most of the Golem workers that showed up to work on the Grand Temple because they had Void influence. I also notice how you only mentioned checking the Golems and the Mountwyrms and NOT the Gruen and Ritan like I suggested. Check them and you'll find heaps. Humans don't kill themselves en mass, the Void manifestation happened many centuries and dozens of Ticks ago during the Inquisitions infancy, and cult 'outbreaks' don't exist in other civilisations because they're freely accepted and thus don't need to 'break out'."
"Actually, our Psymental angel managed to purge literally all Void influence from the Inquisition. The Void infiltration of the Inquisition happened long before the milestone I mentioned and was snuffed out long before the milestone I mentioned."
"For a god that may be a short time, but for Humans, that's an absolutely incredible amount of time. I believe the term is 'check your privilege' but I could be wrong. In any case, what these past centuries have been for Humans has been dozens of Ticks for gods, so even by your own perspective it's been a long time since any incidents arose."
"When was the last time you checked? I had to fire most of the Golem workers that showed up to work on the Grand Temple because they had Void influence. I also notice how you only mentioned checking the Golems and the Mountwyrms and NOT the Gruen and Ritan like I suggested. Check them and you'll find heaps. Humans don't kill themselves en mass, the Void manifestation happened many centuries and dozens of Ticks ago during the Inquisitions infancy, and cult 'outbreaks' don't exist in other civilisations because they're freely accepted and thus don't need to 'break out'."
"Esteemed lords and ladies of the Council, the Goldfather requests that I be able to represent him and handle most public communication."
"And came back soon after, relatively speaking. As you said, that was centuries ago. Several generations of Inquisition later, and they are even worse then when they started. Feel free to check again.""Except I can't because they're disbanded."
"And the inquisition had changed little over time. Are you to tell me that if the situation arose again, something would have been done differently?""Yes."
"No, you do not understand. They had void influence because they where near events where it happened. Think of it this way. Do you remember that shell I fired at the Dead God? The one that made him recoil? Such a weapon leaves 'filth' behind. If one is to go near an area where it has gone off, the 'filth' effects them. The Golems are perfectly innocent in every way, in fact where likely the ones who fought the void.""That is very interesting. I didn't know about that. Thanks for the tip."
"We have seen plenty of examples of killing themselves in mass. It happened in a small village near the coast, I remember investigating it myself. Do your followers lives mean so little to you?">Claims plenty of mass killings
"Except I can't because they're disbanded."
"Yes."
>Claims plenty of mass killings
>Gives singular example of a small village being part of one
>Threatens to destroy literally millions of his own followers in revenge plot
"I'm not even going to dignify that with a response."
"The Goldfather will honor the alliance. He says he is eager to meet you in battle and claim your shinies."
"ISAY is the exact same thing. I am pretty sure it even has the exact same members.""Are you....are you serious? Hahahahahaha! That's funny. But no. The Inquisition were investigators. ISAY - the Imperial Science Academy of Yaos - are scientists. One hunts down Void things, the other just does science stuff. The odds that they have the same members are very low. EVAC, on the other hand, might have Inquisition veterans but they are much more selective of their targets than the Inquisition was."
>Claims he cares about his followersOk seriously, how big is a small village? I'm almost certain we have different definitions of the term.
>Dismisses small village being part of a mass killing
"Are you....are you serious? Hahahahahaha! That's funny. But no. The Inquisition were investigators. ISAY - the Imperial Science Academy of Yaos - are scientists. One hunts down Void things, the other just does science stuff. The odds that they have the same members are very low. EVAC, on the other hand, might have Inquisition veterans but they are much more selective of their targets than the Inquisition was."
Ok seriously, how big is a small village? I'm almost certain we have different definitions of the term.
"Joha want to work together to make a race of pine tree giants that tend the forests of the north?
You hear the following prayers:Specificity is for adaptation. Quantity is for size. If you don't care about having specific traits, then just eat as much of everything you can.
"What should I eat to make myself large?"
"I wish I could become a god of Berries."I'll make you into something that has to do with berries.
"There is an annoying creature eating all my flowers! He landed in the town square a few weeks ago and has not stopped!"Check what it is.
"The idea was for them to be tall humanoids made of pine needles with stumps for legs. They would speak for the forests of the north warning other races when they have chopped to many trees. Where ever they go plants will grow faster, stronger, greener, and sometimes sing.""Joha want to work together to make a race of pine tree giants that tend the forests of the north?
I'd be willing to help. Since finishing my archangel I had considered taking up sphere of "land" and forests are a pretty large part of land. Just whispher me the details and we will work on a variant that would please us both.
"Serac how do you feel about making a massive sea serpent with frosty breath to defend both of our followers from surprise attacks by other god`s angels? After all what angel could hope to stand against a creature created with the power of two gods.I would be willing to do that. I just need to save up some essence first.
That was a rather brazen move. Are you sure you can survive the possible wrath of Quéßäre?
Hello, Cim the Lawgiver. I cannot give you any soldiers to assist in your battles, but for you I have forged an aluminum ring, Ärž, to give to one of the leaders of your forces, a great general or King, perhaps. Whosoever wears it shall be protected from harm and gain the ability to see into the minds of other mortals. Use it as you will."Thank you for the gesture. I will put it to great use."
The advisers are shot on sight by a team of angry armed arms angels.This means war!
They thank you for the shinies, but they still leave. They discard the shinies on their trek.((Honestly, why are you even fighting for shineys when they threw them away? You guys are silly.))
This means war!
((Honestly, why are you even fighting for shineys when they threw them away? You guys are silly.))
We are not ready to battle yet because some of our side can't send any more PMs for now. The battle should still begin by the next Tick, though. But no cheat moves like nukes! Nukes is cheats!
(What's an N2?)
(What would M2 stand for?)(What does M16 stand for? What does M4A1 stand for?)
(What does M16 stand for? What does M4A1 stand for?)
"...You had like 20 essence Serac. How in the world can you say you don`t have enough?"HAD. Plus I'm saving up for some things that cost a lot (>25E), and about to begin a batle where I might want some essence to cast spells/survive injuries.
(Elves know nothing abaut my boxy deals, even though they kinda are part of the deal. The idea was, that after completion of the task I would give you the artifact contained within, which would alow you to pass through both elves and evershifting puzzle efortlessly.)So give me the artifact then.
A CKG lawmancer demonstrates that they have no record of any deal made with any strange men in strange pajamas.They are shown records of the exchange and if they don't comply they will instead be sued for attempted kidnapping.
(It seems they have no knowledge of that)
There is a massive implosion deep in an uninhabited desert on Slytha.
(Ah. They're still in stasis then. I thought you'd already gone and picked them up.)
The stasisfied cultists are traded to Kyloth in exchange for the Puzzle Box (or whatever the deal was).
There is a massive implosion deep in an uninhabited desert on Slytha.
The Yaosian angels have attempted to hire Tier 5 golems. This may end up being similar to hiring Human royalty to act as bodyguards...
Tier 5:Really, KJP? -_-
- Lifesmiths
- Scientists
- Grand architects (Build castles, mansions, temples, large monuments and art architecture
- Military commanders
"Yaos stated he would return soon. I cannot remember if it was this tick or last that he was prophesied to return. If you are trying to stall the fight until he gets here, little Angels, I could just attack now...""We're not waiting for Yaos. He's completely irrelevant to the battle. Right now we're just waiting on Darruth and then the battle will begin."
Really, KJP? -_-
"We're not waiting for Yaos. He's completely irrelevant to the battle. Right now we're just waiting on Darruth and then the battle will begin."
"The battle should take place in an empty waste where no side will have an inherent advantage over the other. The armies of both sides must be clearly visible when the battle starts but may change tactics mid-battle. No outside forces may alter any aspect of the battle before or during the battle. That means that you can't call in some of your own reinforcements if you start losing, as well. The battle will have to take place on Keshan because we can't take our mortal armies anywhere else."
(He is saying that "These guys are too important to be doing stupid and dangerous work", Ex I would not hire a king to be my bodyguard in real life)(Hey, I'm just hiring some Tier 5 dudes to work on the temple. If they bring their own workers and stuff that's on them, but I want Tier 5s at least designing it or something.)
"Speaking of outside forces, the Goldfather would like to note that we have not been in contact with Cim. They are an unknown quantity."Yes, where is Cim? I have him that ring to assist in this battle and be just disappeared.
We will bury our dead, thank you very much. The families of those soldiers deserve to know their loved ones had a proper burial or cremation, not that they were...eaten by Gruen in search of a feast.
We will bury our dead, thank you very much. The families of those soldiers deserve to know their loved ones had a proper burial or cremation, not that they were...eaten by Gruen in search of a feast.Couldn't you bury the bones?
And you don't care what happens to your own dead, then, Lord of Arms?
And we will see how the conflict turns out, now won't we?
Clarifying order: Just bodies are taken for my next meal. They won't be removed from the field until after the conflict seems decided.Ah. Seems I misunderstood then. This is acceptable, though Darruth's proposal for not consuming bones is preferable.
If it isn't me, it's just going to be the vultures and worms.
I will enjoy this. I will enjoy driving home a point so deep it's tip will reach whatever shriveled mess you call a heart inside the dessicated husk of your body. We will show you just how lacking in true power you are. We will show you that
@Fusil: Waiting on Joha now.
I'll go with Decay as my second sphere. I have a habit of doing things like this and it's more unique of a sphere than Desire.
(....You said you where just waiting for him. I knew I should have forced this to be one-on-one....)(I made a ninja edit. Turns out Joha was already here. We're just finalising the plan. We are VERY close.)
(I made a ninja edit. Turns out Joha was already here. We're just finalising the plan. We are VERY close.)
Sappira flinches.You alright?
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The cavalry has begun flanking Fusil's army. The bronze warriors throw flashing explosives, stunning the horses and disrupting their maneuvers.The Imperial Cavalry actually uses wargs - horse-sized wolves - instead of horses. Maybe they should get a bonus to attack?
Yaos has not revived yet, FYI. Also, I'm fighting for the survival of my entire race here. I can be as picky as I need to be.
So, Fusil, I couldn't help but notice how abhorently Golemlike your bronze soldiers are.
For now, yes. He'll probably manage to come back relatively soon...
I only say that abaut anything made of solid stone or metal, that moves due to magic/divine intervention, and I only react when the creatures are there only to wage war.
As for Tykki and other angels bodies, I suspect they burned up. They should reincarnate pretty soon anyway.
"Could there be a golem made that would look like that?" If the answer is yes, then I call it Golemlike. If mortal eyes would be unable to discern between such creature and a Golem of simmilar make, that is suficient enough to sully the reputation of Golems. If they are made for/only know war, I take notice, and if they persist in sensless destruction, I take insult. Bronze creatures of yours were destroyed before the time tested wether or not they would run rampage through countryside, so it does not matter anymore.
Was it you, Khaziraad? Did you annihilate thousands of people because you felt the reputation of your Golema was being infringed upon?!
Or maybe it was the Void, deciding to try and weaken us, or another god, unleashing as much Essence as they possibly could in a single burst to try and see how much damage they could inflict.
And what makes you think, Fusil, that any of us would be inclined to give you Tykki back, at this point?
Propose that we take action to remove the massive uproar of dust that could devastate life and kill hundreds of thousands.[/b]Abstain. "I'd support it but I don't have the Essence and my previous safety-net proposal died."
"I am fully alive and can make an equivalent explosion on all your capitol cities if you don't. If you do, I agree to surrender the battle to you, despite all the rules that had been broken.""You'll surrender? Interesting. Now, simply surrendering with nothing else is nothing. There needs to be terms."
"Are those fair terms to you?"
Anyway, that lich must be pretty tough to have survived.
"Third, Yaos you just lost all your armies, are on like 1 essence, we were just attacked by a necromancer, and nuked this is not the time to be begging Fusil for stuff.""That is a surprisingly good point. I will accept."
"Nothing? This war was for nothing! It achieved only death, and even if we were not nuked it still would not have achieved anything but death. You are supposed to be a god of goodness, yet you would go to war over nothing!
And you truly accuse me of not caring? I asked for volunteers, and got volunteers. They did not die in the fighting, but because of an explosion that wasted their lives needlessly. That is what infuriates me; that their deaths were for nothing, and so their loved ones can take little comfort in the valor of their deeds. Pointless? Perhaps, but I did not start it, nor desire it. Do not speak to me of matters that concern me so closely as though I am not involved.
"Great. With the support, I should be able to pull out Tykki now. Ill attempt it, with you assistance. Once I safely have her corpse back, I will formally surrender."Furthermore, is that all you care about? After all the deaths, you seek to revive the corpse of just one?
"Ask Fusil. From what I can tell, he was the one that attacked the Alliance, not the other way around."
I ask you ALL.
Furthermore, is that all you care about? After all the deaths, you seek to revive the corpse of just one?
"I am tired. I am tired of the arrogance and apathy of my fellow divinities. A curse on you! A curse on this entire so called 'Council'! May your shinies be forever dull. May your bureaucracy choke on itself. Witness the wrath of the Goldfather!"And may your gold-driven heart tarnish vile creature! The downfall of your followers has already been sealed by their goals!
The Goldfather attempts to curse the economy of every non Dwarf or Mountwyrm civilization.
"I am tired. I am tired of the arrogance and apathy of my fellow divinities. A curse on you! A curse on this entire so called 'Council'! May your shinies be forever dull. May your bureaucracy choke on itself. Witness the wrath of the Goldfather!""If you are angry with the other gods, please do not take it out on their children. The mortals have done nothing wrong.
The Goldfather attempts to curse the economy of every non Dwarf or Mountwyrm civilization.
"And now we have seen your true face oh Goldfather, a god that will punish innocent mortals to prove a point to the Council."Hear hear! Let us punish him as he is so quick to do to them, for a God is a Demon if he does not help his people.
Protect my followers from this curse.Kli helps to protect all the other races as well. (Discount in maintaining Balance, maybe?)
And, uh, if it wouldn't cost egregious amounts of Essence(oh god it will won't it?), try and protect everyone else's followers too...
Second off, it proved that Fusil is willing to fight any number of enemies if it means he might get his way, and proves that we gods are about as capable as mortals are at working together; we can, but not all that well. Or perhaps that mortals are as capable as we...
It is not simple.
My army outnumbered yours by ten times when the explosion went off. And, I spent half the essence everyone else did, lost tens of thousands less followers, and surrendered on my own terms.I would hardly call that a win Fusil.
I would hardly call that a win Fusil.
Half the essence of three? Tens of thousands less than 0? I would not say you beat me, if that is how you quantify winning.
And I am victorious because I stayed out of this bloody mess which was a waste of lives, time, and resources and can be entertained by all your (plural) foolishness.QuoteI would hardly call that a win Fusil.
Half the essence of three? Tens of thousands less than 0? I would not say you beat me, if that is how you quantify winning.
"How else could I quantify it? All of my goals where met, so it was a victory."
Propose the prevention and destruction of the existence of permakill weapons.
Afraid I must oppose this. If we can just repeatedly revive anyone and everyone who dies, what point is there to have death in the first place?
Propose the prevention and destruction of the existence of permakill weapons.
Or, perhaps, create a ring or set of rings with it, around the planet. It was a rather large amount of dust, after all...but perhaps there won't be enough for that."That's an amazing idea. Perhaps we can empower them with magic to cause luck, sadness, joy, ect for the mortals."
"Oppose. I am against destroying weapons, and as we have seen before the Council rules prevent absolutely nothing.""I understand your position on the destruction of weapons and I don't begrudge you for it, but what I'm proposing wouldn't be a Council Rule so much as a Council-enforced natural law."
A rule of thumb to keep in mind is that if it does something you want when you want it to, you can die from it.Propose that we get rid of this arbitrary natural law.
"I have an even better idea. What if the rings of dust could be made to slowly remove the existence of Void radiation from the planet?"Or, perhaps, create a ring or set of rings with it, around the planet. It was a rather large amount of dust, after all...but perhaps there won't be enough for that."That's an amazing idea. Perhaps we can empower them with magic to cause luck, sadness, joy, ect for the mortals."
Tykki's body notably disappeared after the battle. Fusil, Khaziraad, and Darruth have successfully recovered it.
(Clearly, someone needs to read the bestiary.)The Lycae are different. Wolf-men are more civilized and more on the human end of the spectrum(a Lycae is a "Bipedal wolf" and has "tribal culture" nothing else is really told). They are also quite tall, averaging 7 feet (sorry, should have included that fact). They also don't live in mountains.
Out in space where it can block sunlight and kill the life of the planet? Are you sure that's a great idea?About 56.00.6.1, the ring will also rotate on an axis around the planet as a smaller, secondary day/night cycle. That way, it doesn't cause a permanent shadow over an area of land and kill everything under it.
(Yaos: Re Arbitrary natural law: Fiat no. The intended meaning, which I realize I muddled, isn't that you will lose something if you do something great. It just means that nothing is guaranteed to be free. Apologies for the confusion.)(Ah. So there's only a chance that you'll get injured-to-killed if you successfully do a 360 no-scope. That makes sense...... Wait, no it doesn't!)
Horses: 0EThe streets are cleared of people and the local militias make preparations. I create as many horses as I can with 0E. I conveniently create them inside Human towns, where the militiamen will slaughter them all. Afterwards, they'll be prepared for storage so they can be eaten later.
(Yaos: Fiat no still in principle. Allowing things to be guaranteed to be free has the potential to produce cranky players when something they assumed was guaranteed to be free turns out to have the potential to produce unwanted side-effects, and I don't want to have to deal with that sort of thing.)(This reason satisfies and disappoints me.)
Yaos: The Dwarves are pleased to sell their techniques to others. For refugees, they suggest that Humans would be better off looking for refuges with taller tunnel-dwellers, and they remind them that the cost will be high. They also point out that there aren't really any displaced Humans.The only other tunnel-dwellers that exist are Golems and they don't have any underground farms. The request for refuge is less because of displaced Humans and more to alleviate food issues that'll arise. Dwarves can feed them with pre-existing underground farms. Human ones will take too long to build to feed everyone.
The only other tunnel-dwellers that exist are Golems and they don't have any underground farms. The request for refuge is less because of displaced Humans and more to alleviate food issues that'll arise. Dwarves can feed them with pre-existing underground farms. Human ones will take too long to build to feed everyone.
(Actually, the Night Elves the the most numerous tunnel dwellers)(Alright. Thanks.)
I would like to create the Rose a sky feature on world 1 associated with lies, guilt, and broken hearts and the Horse on world 2 associated with duty, swords, and heroes."Sorry but I kinda have problems with both. Roses are supposed to be the flower of love and romance but this constellation is all about failed love and romance. It's kind of sad, actually." :( "The Horse is associated with swords, but we already have a Sword constellation. On the same world, too! My last problem is that there are already so many constellations. I think maybe we should keep them at ten constellations each planet."
"Feel free to be a critic."
White Wing Rani: "We praise you for bringing the Great Ice Age!""...This is only a small ice age that must sadly end soon."
Shadow Raven: "The Rani rejoice too loudly when they rejoice at all."
White Wing Rani: "Thank you for bringing the Great Ice Age!"
White Wing Rani: "I have donated all my fortune to your temple in honor of your Great Ice Age and a bet."
Rani artist: "The ash and dust is making my outdoor sculptures look awful. Can you do something about it?"
White Wing Rani: "The Great Ice Age has arrived!"
"And it's like she never even died. Again. It's actually quite soothing."(Actually, the Night Elves the the most numerous tunnel dwellers)(Alright. Thanks.)
The Night Elves are asked to take in as many refugees as possible first. If long-term survival still isn't an option with current Human-made underground farms, the Dwarves are asked to take in refugees as well.
"Let us seeeeee what gods didn't vote yet...... Ok, Cim, you need to vote on a specific way to deal with it. Just pick one you dislike the least and support it. Varee, Azem, Kli, Grauel, Serac, The Light, Joha, Carmine, Neron, Darruth, and Quéßäre, you all need to vote."I would like to create the Rose a sky feature on world 1 associated with lies, guilt, and broken hearts and the Horse on world 2 associated with duty, swords, and heroes."Sorry but I kinda have problems with both. Roses are supposed to be the flower of love and romance but this constellation is all about failed love and romance. It's kind of sad, actually." :( "The Horse is associated with swords, but we already have a Sword constellation. On the same world, too! My last problem is that there are already so many constellations. I think maybe we should keep them at ten constellations each planet."
"Feel free to be a critic."
EDIT: The Candle is also associated with heroism, so you've got two constellations on the same world that deal with heroic stuff.
"And it's like she never even died. Again. It's actually quite soothing."*blush*
I swear, it's like you're dating.*more blush!*
Why would only one planet get a void decontaminating ring?"W-well, Slytha doesn't...doesn't have dust. You know?"
"Now that we have discussed a little bit how to take care of the dust, how will we punish Cim for ruining our fight with a random explosion? I vote execution."If you want to do that, you're supplying the Godly guillotine.
If you want to do that, you're supplying the Godly guillotine.
Why would you... Actualy, nevermind. I mixed up the source of feeling of surprise. I was not surprised that you would blame Cim, I was surprised at how this did not register as at all unusual to me. It almost makes sense this time.
That is a rather different response from the usual, "We're gods, we can do anything.""Well, it's not that we can't do it it's just that it'll be more expensive without the dust already being there."
:'D *hugs back* "It's great to see you again, Joha! I missed you."
Also, yay, Yaos is back! *hugs*
"It is pretty obviously him. For one, he hates me but sent no soldiers to join in the combat. Not only that, but just after the combat he sent someone to kidnap Tykki before the dust even settled, proving that he knew the explosion would happen. In addition, his power over order gives him the ability to "order" molecules in such a way as to cause the explosion. He is the only one with the motive and ability to do such a thing.""I didn't cause, create nor order the explosion. You know I don't lie. Or not, considering how horrible a judge of character you are. Yes, I knew the explosion was going to happen and thus didn't join the fight. That was plain observation, awareness and reaction. However, it was not me. I didn't even spend any Essence during the whole battle, since counting that seems to be a thing you do."
"Yaos' Empire (energy weapons)""Nope! We don't have energy weapons. We've been trying to get energy weapons but Fusil's been blocking us on that project, and those weapons are infantry weapons anyway."
"I didn't cause, create nor order the explosion. You know I don't lie. Or not, considering how horrible a judge of character you are. Yes, I knew the explosion was going to happen and thus didn't join the fight. That was plain observation, awareness and reaction. However, it was not me. I didn't even spend any Essence during the whole battle, since counting that seems to be a thing you do."
"You try to reason that I was the only that could have done it. Let's think who openly has the tools for a huge explosion: me (controlled entropy), Varee (uncontrolled entropy), you (nuclear weapons), Yaos' Empire (energy weapons), The Light (some sort of "Cleansing Light"), and Khaziraad's Archangel (atom-splitting hammer). We could also blame the Void on this one if we wanted to, or someone else entriely. Still, an explosion such as this one is nothing I would do in a battle. Too much collateral damage; I would settle for a million or so smaller explosions to destroy my opponents, or at least try to control the force enough to not kick up a massive dust cloud. That, or merely mind control half the troops to betray their comrades and be done with it. What happened is simply not my style."
"You also say I'm the only one with a motive. I am not, and do you seriously believe I would murder millions, including (somewhat) friendly troops, only to capture Tykki? I merely took an opportunity that presented itself. You are quite rash to call for an execution of a scapegoat, even though you usually analyze things closely (though you often reach the wrong conclusion). Perhaps you had a hand in this. I personally doubt it, but you in an alternate universe would take this as empirical proof of your guilt and attack you, either verbally or physically."
"Yaos doesn't have the ability to do such a thing despite what he tells you (especially not with two essence! How did he escape the explosion anyway? ???)"(Despite what I tell you? I've been saying that I don't have the ability to do such a thing. What do you think I've been saying? I escaped the explosion the same way the Mumans escaped the explosion - by not being there in the first place. I only revived after the battle had already started. I was also asleep IRL during the parts where I revived and the battle ended, so disregarding the 'no reinforcements' rule I couldn't have joined the battle if I wanted to.)
"Yaos doesn't have the ability to do such a thing despite what he tells you (especially not with two essence! How did he escape the explosion anyway? ???)"(Despite what I tell you? I've been saying that I don't have the ability to do such a thing. What do you think I've been saying? I escaped the explosion the same way the Mumans escaped the explosion - by not being there in the first place. I only revived after the battle had already started. I was also asleep IRL during the parts where I revived and the battle ended, so disregarding the 'no reinforcements' rule I couldn't have joined the battle if I wanted to.)
"The air is filthy! My children can barely breathe! Help us!"Soon the air will be cleansed of this foul dust.
"What happened? The skies went dark and some trees started burning!"There was an explosion so great it destroyed millions on the surface, and cast the ground into the air.
"Listen, O great Sorae and Serac himself! The end is upon us! Turn! Turn to the skies! Lift your eyes and see Their true forms! They are the true rulers of the sea!"They? Who are They?
Claim all the souls for the Human Plane before they reach reincarnation.
Sue Quéßäre for causing unleashing the disease and causing a megadeath, thus breaking Part IV of Anath's Code of Conduct.
Quéßäre was at 10 Essence on the previous Tick and is now at 3. He chose to kill Humans using a disease. His own race - the High Elves, are immune to disease and they would thus be safe from it if it were to spread to their lands and he knew that. As punishment, he will use his Essence to bring everyone back to life and then be imprisoned for 1 Tick.
"Aren't you supposed to be best friends with the God of Life? Just have him help you stop the disease."(Joha is the female goddess of Life and I'm waiting on the price check for that. I want the guy who killed everyone to spend his own Essence bringing everyone back instead of a friend who had nothing to do with it.)
(Joha is the female goddess of Life and I'm waiting on the price check for that. I want the guy who killed everyone to spend his own Essence bringing everyone back instead of a friend who had nothing to do with it.)
(I think Yaos is pretty good at proving We Gods gender is rather arbitrary)(Yaos is like that because she's goddess of Humans and there are both male and female Humans. Joha is always female, or would you prefer if Fusil was referred to as a 'she'?
-snip-"I simply did not cause the explosion. Put the blame to someone else. Maybe someone with an actual penchant for senseless destruction? One that would direct hate to people completely unrelated?"
(Yaos is like that because she's goddess of Humans and there are both male and female Humans. Joha is always female, or would you prefer if Fusil was referred to as a 'she'?
"I simply did not cause the explosion. Put the blame to someone else. Maybe someone with an actual penchant for senseless destruction? One that would direct hate to people completely unrelated?"
"You are the only one with a motive, who knew what would happen, and the ability to do so.""I cannot be the only one, because I didn't do it. Give me some time and I'll prove it."
Claim all the souls for the Human Plane before they reach reincarnation.Why do you think I've killed them? What would I possibly have to gain? By unleashing a plague on them, I'd both destroy my trading partners and piss you off, neither of which is of any help to me.
Sue Quéßäre for causing unleashing the disease and causing a megadeath, thus breaking Part IV of Anath's Code of Conduct.
Quéßäre was at 10 Essence on the previous Tick and is now at 3. He chose to kill Humans using a disease. His own race - the High Elves, are immune to disease and they would thus be safe from it if it were to spread to their lands and he knew that. As punishment, he will use his Essence to bring everyone back to life and then be imprisoned for 1 Tick.
Furthermore, who says a God did this? I've seen how your humans live...they're disgusting. Maybe you should have taught them to stay clean to prevent such an outbreak.
A supernaturally contagious, highly lethal plague has spread throughout the Human empire, directly killing a full quarter of the population."Mortal mages simply don't have medical knowledge to be able to create supernatural diseases on this scale. Humans have been living for over a millennium in either present or worse conditions without any mention of a plague, especially one this big. More evidence to the fact is that the Humans on Slythan have the same cleanliness ideals but they don't have any problems, so this is almost certainly a direct attack against the Empire and me."
'll send 5,000 High Elves to help treat your filthy humans and see about possibly spreading their genes.0_0 "Th-that's not exactly what I meant. I mean, the way you're going about it....well, they're gonna end up giving half their genes and I only need the tiny itty little bit that gets rid of diseases. I mean, you can't really just order your followers to do....that, can you?"
Sorry, I'll clarify. I'll see about giving them the non-disease gene. Also, I'll bump that 5,000 High-Elves up to 12,000. You'll need them.(Exactly how are they going to give the gene? Sex isn't selective enough to pass on individual genes as the participants choose (unless you designed High Elves that way) and gene-splicing isn't even that advanced IRL, let alone in the High Middle Ages. If you're going to do it through magic, why are so many High Elves required?)
"First off, the Lady is already associated with love. Second off, The Sword actually has nothing to do with swords for some resion. Last off, PREETY PLEASE :'( I just want to add two more to the sky.I would like to create the Rose a sky feature on world 1 associated with lies, guilt, and broken hearts and the Horse on world 2 associated with duty, swords, and heroes."Sorry but I kinda have problems with both. Roses are supposed to be the flower of love and romance but this constellation is all about failed love and romance. It's kind of sad, actually." :( "The Horse is associated with swords, but we already have a Sword constellation. On the same world, too! My last problem is that there are already so many constellations. I think maybe we should keep them at ten constellations each planet."
"Feel free to be a critic."
EDIT: The Candle is also associated with heroism, so you've got two constellations on the same world that deal with heroic stuff.
"First off, the Lady is already associated with love. Second off, The Sword actually has nothing to do with swords for some resion. Last off, PREETY PLEASE :'( I just want to add two more to the sky."Not that this has anything to do with anything, but I seem to remember you urging the Council to kill me by pushing me into the Void. Back to relevant stuff, I'm still not convinced. Maybe do something other than skyfeatures? Maybe something with ley lines? Actually...."
"I am sure other deities would agree with me, that locking something away is better than outright slaying it."*nod* "I'm against god-killing. Imprisonment is better." :|
Inspire the luminee mages to aid in the crisis of the Human Empire. Train more 10000 crystralline guardians. Hide The box and its defenders in a distant to reach canyon.
"If I were to find out that a god is behind the plague, I am more than welcome to use my godbox on said deity. I am sure other deities would agree with me, that locking something away is better than outright slaying it."
"Not that this has anything to do with anything, but I seem to remember you urging the Council to kill me by pushing me into the Void."It would have worked to stop the stoNe meN...." :P
"An open message to all divinities, if you have my archangel, please return her to the nearest representative of Wealth.""Before anyone even mentions my name, no, I didn't take her, and no, I don't know who did. Yes, I have captured Tykki twice now, but I had my reasons for those. I have nothing against you nor Sappira."
"If you fools are going to insist on imprisoning things over and over, I propose that all future imprisonments lock the Deity in question in their own plane. This should prevent them from being needlessly slain, and gives them something to do while they are locked away. Much better than just letting them die... At least better than what the utterly stupid laws have on the books.""Notably, no current law specifies any punishment, leaving it for the Council to decide, for better or worse. I approve of this proposal and support it. Not for the same reasons as you, but approve nonetheless."
"It would have worked to stop the stoNe meN...." :P"Nice to see you take the deaths of gods so seriously."
As usual, council is not fast enough."Yeah, the Council really does suck in that department. (I can say things like that without hypocrisy because I always vote.) Thanks for getting rid of the dust."
Move the dust into stable ring orbit around the planet.
"If you fools are going to insist on imprisoning things over and over, I propose that all future imprisonments lock the Deity in question in their own plane. This should prevent them from being needlessly slain, and gives them something to do while they are locked away. Much better than just letting them die... At least better than what the utterly stupid laws have on the books.""I oppose this. The whole point of imprisonment is that they CAN'T do anything while they're locked away. That's the entire point of a prison! Moreover, they could somehow use the power of their plane to break free. Now, you could argue that what would happen is the same thing as Tory when she tried jumping Fusil away, but keep in mind that there have been many things which managed to break through the Council's will fairly easily."
(It is 12:31 AM where I am. I cannot sleep but I'm hoping that I will soon. If Quéßäre goes inactive and dies then it's not my fault because I'll be asleep.)Yeah, I'm not bringing them back to life, and I will spend essence... to keep more from dying! I won't revive them because I did not kill them and any help you get from me is from the kindness of my heart. If you imprison me, I'll be unable to help and more will only die.
"First of all, I want to retract my proposed punishment of Quéßäre because it will kill him and I don't like it when gods die - even if they're my enemies." :( "Instead, his punishment should be imprisonment until he gets enough Essence to bring everyone back to life, and he's not allowed to use Essence until he does." :)
So just how many High Elves did you end up making? My records show that there are on the order of a few hundred.They multiplied a lot over the years.
They multiplied a lot over the years.
(It hasn't been years. A few months at most, probably weeks or even less. That's how fast Ticks go when there's a crisis.)So just how many High Elves did you end up making? My records show that there are on the order of a few hundred.They multiplied a lot over the years.
(Wait, how many years have passed since the battle? They were only on Keshan, but I think I seriously overestimated the amount of time in a tick)QuoteThey multiplied a lot over the years.
(You start out with ~300 from the first batch. I had assumed you made more in secret or something. Break that over two worlds (as I am assuming you did) and that is 150~ on each world. To get those numbers, they would have to have multiplied by ten. Using those numbers, there would be billions of humans, even more armu-seppo, and countless other races...)
(Even if it was 2 centeries, the fact that they are immortal probably means their breeding is very slow. You could wait fifty ticks without getting that many, unless you boost their number directly.(Well, at first they'd breed quickly to reach a safe number and build themselves up, but I grossly overestimated that. Whoever started this plague must be put to death.)
Also: Holy cow! That means that 25% of humanity was wiped out in under two months!)
"I've just been going over Council records and it turns out that Cim's staff is made of Void stuff. Propose that Cim's staff be destroyed.""The closest thing to a staff I have is the Warden's Crook, Vartija's primary 'weapon', which is an originally mundane herder's crook powered by Belief made permanent with a bit of Essence. Could you share the exact record? I don't see how it would be possible for the Void to have anything to do with it."
First, a silvery flowing humanoid with a book and spear and a colorful bubble of Void-stuff resolving into an inverted triangle and spade.(I'm going to be honest, I have no idea what made me think it was in staff form.)
"I have an idea. Why don't we all invest in the moons.""The last time I tried doing that Grauel sicked a giant Essence space dead god dragon on my capital, killing the souls of hundreds of thousands. So no."
"One, that snippet depicts Varee, not me, being made from Void-stuff; two, all elder Gods formed from the Void along with the Bubble we reside. Of the younger Gods, I can't say with complete certainty. Still, that fact serves to advocate the Void, as we are a part of it. One of my still-plausible hypotheses in Void theory is that Essence is simply a more refined, less primordial form of Void energy."First, a silvery flowing humanoid with a book and spear and a colorful bubble of Void-stuff resolving into an inverted triangle and spade.
Ten figures begin emerging inside this stable pocket in the void."Notice how 'void' is spelt in lowercase, and also notice how the ten figures are described as emerging inside the stable pocket - the Bubble. The gods formed from the Bubble - not the Void, but Varee (as you've so kindly explained) has had a direct connection to the Void from the start."
"For all our sakes, no one have an argument about the Void. You know what it does to his nerves. You know this.""We actually don't know this. I don't remember a single time where he's gotten angry about Void-talk, specifically, just whenever we started arguing a lot (and he's not even here right now ;)). Besides, we're just having a polite and non-intense conversation about theology...... Does the idea of gods discussing theology sound weird to anyone else or is it just me?"
"We actually don't know this. I don't remember a single time where he's gotten angry about Void-talk, specifically, just whenever we started arguing a lot (and he's not even here right now ;)). Besides, we're just having a polite and non-intense conversation about theology...... Does the idea of gods discussing theology sound weird to anyone else or is it just me?"
"It will be civil right up to the point the god of Arms joins the conversation. Then all bets are off. Heh. Bets. Angel of...you get the idea."
Stop cheating death.
"They are the Many-Faced Ones, with forms shifting as the waves and more arms than the Great Squid! Bow before your true masters! See their wrath and turn!"
"I have a list of things here that the Goldfather wanted to tell you all, in no particular order. Please be kind on the messenger."
Because then he would've warned the Council about the imminent attack or at least announced that he was spending Essence to prevent disease. 4 Essence is certainly enough for a god of Deception to create a plague.If I had warned you, how many of you would have listened to the God of Deception?
That is a valid point, although something to wave as a "you didin't listen before and look what happened" card would had been usefull to you. Your behaviour, though, is hardly suspicious, I would not atempt to see through behaviour of god of deciet.Because then he would've warned the Council about the imminent attack or at least announced that he was spending Essence to prevent disease. 4 Essence is certainly enough for a god of Deception to create a plague.If I had warned you, how many of you would have listened to the God of Deception?
True, that would have been an excellent angle, but I didn't know.Because then he would've warned the Council about the imminent attack or at least announced that he was spending Essence to prevent disease. 4 Essence is certainly enough for a god of Deception to create a plague.If I had warned you, how many of you would have listened to the God of Deception?
That is a valid point, although something to wave as a "you didin't listen before and look what happened" card would had been usefull to you. Your behaviour, though, is hardly suspicious, I would not atempt to see through behaviour of god of deciet.
Kli: You hear these prayers:"Do not worry, I shall give you a solution.. Kli teaches the worshipper a spell for using the innate magic of the forests to cleanse the surrounding air. It would work on any tree, even the Tree of Balance. If the worshipper is a Hummingbird, the spell takes the form of a song. "Quickly, teach the others the use of the tool I have given you!
"The air is dangerous and our forests were burning! What can we do?"
"Is it balance that our world be struck once every eon?"
"Why has the trade stopped? Have all the caravans died from the dust?"
Azem takes a deep breath."You could just get rid of the disease that's going down in the Empire. Alternatively, you could make all (Keshan, if you want) Humans immune to disease with the help of a few other gods. You know that the Council's never going to get around to actually punishing you on their own."
"I was being rash before, and letting my emotions control me, and I apologize. Consider the curse lifted. I will accept any punishment this Council deems fitting."
While my High-Elves are there, I'll have them spread my teachings to the humans.Aha! Motive! I knew it was you all along!
Yaos, angels back. Now."Sorry about that. Angel ashes are hard to tell apart." Serac gets his angels back, after making sure that they actually belong to Serac.
Haha! Good one!You think I'd kill all those humans to gain a little following? Couldn't I have just used spies or made more followers?While my High-Elves are there, I'll have them spread my teachings to the humans.Aha! Motive! I knew it was you all along!
The High Elves are delayed from building the monument until the plague is actually dealt with. That's how these things work.
With the dust situation solved by Khaziraad's grateful intervention, food-related policies are shifted back to normal. The Alchemy division will continue their project until completion, however.
The war [EXPUNGED] will continue to be mass-produced.Yaos, angels back. Now."Sorry about that. Angel ashes are hard to tell apart." Serac gets his angels back, after making sure that they actually belong to Serac.
Haha! Good one!"Thank you. It was intended to be a joke. Considering the circumstances, however, I'd say it was inappropriate of me to do so."
Not at all, oh good God of Comedy!Haha! Good one!"Thank you. It was intended to be a joke. Considering the circumstances, however, I'd say it was inappropriate of me to do so."
I propose we return all angels to their rightful owners right now.Abstain. I'd support this proposal but it would probably cost Essence to do so, considering Jeffrey and possibly other angels like him exist.
"Also I do not support Yaos' lawsuit against the new god, as there is no evidence. Also he has shown dignity by helping the Human god who has caused some troubles over the year of his existance.""I have already withdrawn the lawsuit."
Help whoever is getting rid of the dust, however I canKHAZIRAAD ALREADY GOT RID OF ALL THE DUST. Kesha is now a ring world.
Angels revive please oh god don't be perma-deadThe only permadead angels are Tory and Lee. :-\
Sure, I'll delay the monument. I'll build a Yaos shrine there, though.(I didn't see this before.)
Angels revive please oh god don't be perma-deadThey should revive, but who knows where? Yaos took two of my angels, and the third is still missing. Cim stole Fusil's angels after the battle, and I don't think those are the only ones missing. That's why I made a council proposal to return all the missing angels to their rightful owners.
A rather large amount of individuals things are consuming my essence and attention at the moment, and making Humans immune to disease could easily lead to unforeseen consequences; there is a reason for diseases to exist, and no such thing as true immunity. Supernatural disease is unlikely to be blocked no matter the case; it is supernatural, after all. But you have a point, and if the dust is taken care of...
@Darruth: "Why don't you just help Azem and Quéßäre end the disease/make Humans immune to disease?"
A rather large amount of individuals things are consuming my essence and attention at the moment, and making Humans immune to disease could easily lead to unforeseen consequences; there is a reason for diseases to exist, and no such thing as true immunity. Supernatural disease is unlikely to be blocked no matter the case; it is supernatural, after all.Yaos' eye starts twitching something fierce.
small diseases train a population to be able to survive large plagues. A magical plague only killed a quarter of the population. Non-magical ones have been known to slaughter a full third"Non-magical plagues of that extent do not kill that quickly and in any case they don't exist. We would've gotten word if a third of a population somewhere suddenly started dropping dead. Only killed a quarter of the population. That's still way too much to be acceptable and there is no reason for a disease that powerful to exist. Going by your theory, smaller diseases only exist to prevent this kind of disease. Thus, we should destroy this one."
Medical science is of course to be applauded, but eradication of disease is by no means it's purpose. It's purpose is to save lives, and one can survive getting sick."One of the ways it saves lives is by eradicating diseases." (Just look at smallpox, polio, etc.)
If the humans are made 'immune' to disease, the instant anything that finds some way past that immunity; say, a parasite, or bacteria, or some magical curse-plague made by a necromancer with a chip on his shoulder, will slaughter them, since their normal immune systems will be atrophied."You're forgetting about the High Elves. Accepting your entire argument, the only humane thing to do is strip the High Elves of their immunity to disease, give them a decent immune system to start off with, and then see how everything turns out. Based on the fact that you haven't mentioned them, I'm guessing you're only against total immunity being present in Humans. Why that is, I don't know."
Finally, who's to say it wasn't the Void that did this, if we've ruled out The Guile Lord? They already advocate sacrifices, at least in some of their cults, and if I remember right, 'Ephemerality' is one of their possible spheres. Beyond that, other Gods are able to stop our will, as has whatever that fucking music is."As I said, the Void is the one thing that can subvert the will of the gods. Gods can only subvert our will if they're backed by the Void, just as Varee was with his damned monkeys. If it was the Void then we ought to evacuate every Keshan Human to Slytha. It shouldn't be too much trouble, honestly. Transporting creatures is a lot cheaper than creating them and we can even make a condition where only those that aren't sick will be transported."
That gods-damned fucking music.
Oh yes, and I agree with Azem; considering the fact that you are essentially powerless at the moment, and have abstained on everything, your nagging at other Gods to vote and claim that we can do anything is rather...ironic."I have 3 Essence. If I were to do support any proposals I'd be forced to spend Essence and will probably go dormant or die from it. I'm trying to stay active and do as much as I can with what little I have - something to be applauded for if one was a poor mortal instead of a poor god - and in any case, I thought that we were all equal? Maybe we should start dividing up gods based on age like Fusil suggested?"
(I'm pretty sure the High-Elves immunity to disease will only really work entirely on mundane diseases. If a God says, "I want the High-Elves dead, make a plague to destroy them," I'm pretty sure it'll bypass it. As a long as the divine disease is not targeting them, as divine diseases often do, they should still be fine, unless overly exposed.)(Or just do something else, like stealing the air from their cities...)
Hey, don't give them ideas.(I'm pretty sure the High-Elves immunity to disease will only really work entirely on mundane diseases. If a God says, "I want the High-Elves dead, make a plague to destroy them," I'm pretty sure it'll bypass it. As a long as the divine disease is not targeting them, as divine diseases often do, they should still be fine, unless overly exposed.)(Or just do something else, like stealing the air from their cities...)
((Making them immune to disease means they aren't actually human))((Actually, yes, they are. Just look at the Mumans. They are anatomically very different from terran Humans but are still definitely human. Besides, in this world souls definitely exist, so it goes beyond just mere genetics to determine what something "is".))
(I'm pretty sure the High-Elves immunity to disease will only really work entirely on mundane diseases. If a God says, "I want the High-Elves dead, make a plague to destroy them," I'm pretty sure it'll bypass it. As a long as the divine disease is not targeting them, as divine diseases often do, they should still be fine, unless overly exposed.)((That actually made me think of an idea. The High Elves were made to be totally immune to disease; it wasn't explicitly mentioned they're only totally immune from mundane disease. Total immunity would cover mundane disease, but what if it also covers magical diseases too? I'm talking about what Darruth suggested earlier - a Necromancer or something cooking up a disease in a lab - NOT a divinely made disease. It makes sense. If some mortal somehow made a mundane bioweapon and unleashed it, the totally immune wouldn't be affected, but what if that's also true for artificial, mortal-made magical bioweapons?))
Listen for prayers...oh god I'm not gonna like this...Well, you know that they say: You only live
((And no, the Mumans are not human, they are a recognisably different species))(Well, I was the god of Humans at the time, and I'm a god, so if I say they're simply a different type of human - possibly the same way there are different types of dogs - then they are. Just to make it perfectly clear, they are human because I say so. Yeah it sounds unreasonable and immature, but it's actually true.)
((Also, being immune to disease means you don't have to practice hygiene. As in, ever. Which is disgusting.))(First of all, we don't know if the High Elves don't practice hygiene. Secondly, you only think it's disgusting because you live in a culture where disease is important. So in other words, check your privilege!)
Yaos has attempted to block the construction of a monument at the High Elven capital, and Quéßäre delays it. The High Elves have constructed a shrine to Yaos.Ohhhhhhh so they were building the shrine in the High Elf capital. I thought since they'd gone to the Empire to heal the plague that they were building the shrine in the Human capital which made me wonder why they were doing that because there's already so much Yaos stuff there.
"I offer up this sample of my dinner, a roast rat and a jelly roll."Much appreciated.
"I want to become the god of Being a God!"
"Could you block out the sun again? Our gang can't sneak out in the day without our parents noticing now."
An angel of Grauel has been seen, dead and covered in a shroud marked "HoDo".Once the shroud is gone, the angel's corpse is retrieved and scanned for EVERYTHING (AKA a full examination) and if it's safe to do so, drained of as much Essence as possible. "Wasn't me that killed it, by the way."
Yaos: The shroud stays on the body. Are you sure you want to consume one of Grauel's angels? This may provoke a reaction.A full examination of the body is undertaken by someone that's not me. I will not consume the angel corpse, but he's not allowed to react anyway.
Essence to make someone a god: All of it.I can't use all the Essence of an inactive god, can I? Maybe do a little consciousness transfer?
(Yaos: -2E, Varee: -5E, Yaos: +2E)Little bit of an error here. That +2E ought to be a
The Sorae seek refuge on the undersides of their turtles where they make contact with the *Sorae Underdwellers, who they have managed not to realize existed.What are they? Normal Sorae that have adapted to life underwater?
"They are the Many-Faced Ones, with forms shifting as the waves and more arms than the Great Squid! Bow before your true masters! See their wrath and turn!"You mean Fusil's creations, the Armu and Seppo? Because this are not gods, merely another race.
"Lies! Now go back and wash all the clothes again!"I realize that I have not been able to answer your prayers much lately. Our human friends were attacked by a God's plague and I my mind has been off elsewhere handling this Godly warfare, by which those dust storms were made.
"Quéßäre, I always lie! This sentence is also a lie!"
"Thank Quéßäre I managed to fool those market guards."
A grand tournament is held in the Mountwyrm capital on Keshan, where warriors far and wide can test their skill. Betting is strongly encouraged.I bet 2 essence that someone will win the competition
Yaos, why would you reinstate the inquisition?"Why wouldn't I?" ???
(Yaos: -2E, Varee: -5E, Yaos: +2E)(I'm going to assume that you meant Kifo here, as Idris already revived successfully...)
You create a throne for communication in the Paradise Plane and make Malik unaging and give Idris back to Joha.
"Im not saying I will start freezing the inquisition, but you might find some human shaped ice statues if you don't disband them, Yaos."
To cheer up my followers over the fact the world was not ending, it is time for the first Neronmas! Spread the word to my Saints that in two ticks my followers are to meet in the City of Red Stone to celebrate and give gifts. Merwen and my Saints are to lead the followers in caroling and hanging up lanterns. The Ice Titans are to go and guard the event from danger and I will personally be appearing at the event to grant some wishes of my followers.
"Are Sappira and the rest of my Shiny Ones somewhere in your pile of ash Yaos?""They might be. I'm not sure." I search the ash pile for the Shiny Ones.
(Yaos: Your actions did indeed end up as written. Varee's extraneous Essence simply dissipated because Essence caps exist, and it failed to increase.(Wow, yeah. I made two maths errors in a row there. But how does the cap increase? A flat amount of Essence before it goes up? A chance of going up whenever Essence is gained (regardless of the amount of Essence added)? Other?
Making gods: A better question is this: "Do I want an independent GMPC with the possibility of turning on me or allying with me and antagonizing the others?")
"Im not saying I will start freezing the inquisition, but you might find some human shaped ice statues if you don't disband them, Yaos.""I'm getting annoyed now. Why does everyone hate the Inquisition so much? I'm starting to suspect Void dealings."
"And the more unpleasant variety of Void cult isn't a danger god of Ice?""That's right! The Inquisition only goes after dangerous Void cults. The only cult allowed to exist is the Want cult and that's only because they're actually Good. No other Void cult is like them and they need to be brought down." >:(
"That's a rather Human-centric view of the situation Yaos.""Really? How?"
(Why the sudden concern over essence dragons?)(Dar-MA-Gome turned into a monster in 23 Ticks, 25 at most. Artisanii's been inactive for 25 Ticks and he belongs to Fusil.)
"Fine, but they need to stop with the whole burning buildings because of a weird jelly roll thing.""You're kidding me, right? They haven't done something like that for several dozen Ticks and several hundred years, even before they were disbanded."
You still accuse me of working with the void, even though it has been over twice as long since I did..."Fine, but they need to stop with the whole burning buildings because of a weird jelly roll thing.""You're kidding me, right? They haven't done something like that for several dozen Ticks and several hundred years, even before they were disbanded."
"It is well known that the Humans have the most uncontrolled cults."
Who's burning things down for jelly rolls?
Some humans were having a jelly roll party and Yaos was angry about not being invited which led to her burning the place down along with all the poor little party goers inside.
"It is well known that the Humans have the most uncontrolled cults.""That's cos they're unaligned and there really weren't that many cults until the Inquisition was disbanded."
"Not only Void cults. Gruen cults are still a thing. Really, they will worship anything. I don't think the inquisition has been helping at all. Their tactics, if anything, only serve to further the enemy's goals.""Gruen cults have been legal for a long time now and their tactics work very well."
Void Cults are at an all-time low even though the Inquisition reports unchanged amounts of purging."See? They kept up their purging and Void cults went to an all-time low." *smug*
"....Wait, why does everyone know about this but me?""Because it never happened." >:( "There have been three big indidents with the Inquisition."
"That's cos they're unaligned and there really weren't that many cults until the Inquisition was disbanded."
"Gruen cults have been legal for a long time now and their tactics work very well."
((Is this still taking players?))
Darruth hears the following prayers:Of course, my child. Ensure he has the necessary power.
"Aid me, Darruth above, that these children may heal."
"What are those strange masked figures who look like Sorae-Luminees?"
"With your guidance, I heal these humans."
"Our food bank is running low on food this year. May you bless our harvest."
Serac has thrown a jelly roll party at the Human Imperial capital (*HIC*). The Inquisition has come knocking with incendiary weapons at the ready.(This....no. The Inquisition's job is to find Void cults and destroy them. They would not mistake a very public party thrown by a non-Void god for a cult, even considering the presence of jelly rolls. Even if it was a Void cult, that's not their SOP. The ONLY incendiary weapons in the Empire belong to the Controlados and the Paladins. The Inquisition has blackjacks created by Fusil. When these were intially introduced, deaths plummeted to a very low number with no child deaths.)
Serac has thrown a jelly roll party at the Human Imperial capital (*HIC*). The Inquisition has come knocking with incendiary weapons at the ready.(This....no. The Inquisition's job is to find Void cults and destroy them. They would not mistake a very public party thrown by a non-Void god for a cult, even considering the presence of jelly rolls. Even if it was a Void cult, that's not their SOP. The ONLY incendiary weapons in the Empire belong to the Controlados and the Paladins. They have blackjacks created by Fusil. When introduced, deaths plummeted to a very low number with no child deaths.)
(Yet no reaction to being killed/monkey mauled? How jaded.)(Eh. At least now I know for sure it's Varee.)
There are a number of raging forest fires on the more frequently traveled paths to the City of Red Stone.Send a rainstorm to put out the forest fires.
Serac has thrown a jelly roll party at the Human Imperial capital (*HIC*). The Inquisition has come knocking with incendiary weapons at the ready.
The Boots of Soaking have begun distributing local delicacies to everyone. There is a sharp increase in pastry-related deaths.
A massive, curled up humanoid creature has sprung forth from the bowels of the world, crackling with Essence and emitting X-ray screams! It has begun blasting randomly!
A massive, curled up humanoid creature has sprung forth from the bowels of the world, crackling with Essence and emitting X-ray screams! It has begun blasting randomly!Kli warns his followers about the danger. He also tries to limit the creature's damage and destruction.
"It looks like he is back! That is the corpse of Yaos..."(More likely is that I reminded the GM of how long Artisanii's been inactive. I thought I'd already scanned both planets. Wait, which world is this monster even on?)
She cannot seem to find Nuparhi anywhere.Great! Just great. Who stole all the archangels?
"OBAHGXUKNUCOMGIBHHHHHAAAIL HUMANITY HAIL HUMANITY HAILHAILHAILHAILHAILMANITYITYITYKK!""I told it to 'speak.' I think this closes the issue on its identity."
Now is the time! We can turn him into a rowboat covered in grapes with a bobblehead and bury him in the churn.Quote from: The Dead God"OBAHGXUKNUCOMGIBHHHHHAAAIL HUMANITY HAIL HUMANITY HAILHAILHAILHAILHAILMANITYITYITYKK!""I told it to 'speak.' I think this closes the issue on its identity."
*snip*(It is because they lose personality, becoming twisted shells of their former sphere)
When godly remains are reanimated, they tend to go on mindless rampages with only marginal connections to their spheres.
"Oh, and Serac, about this oracle statue, what if one asks a question it can't answer or doesn't know the answer to? Is 'I don't know' a truthful answer? Because if it is, I won't see myself using the statue."Why don't you ask the oracle? :P
It will be most sad without Yaos here. For all her flaws, he was verry fun to have arround."Would you like some help with that?"
Have Kyloyh and five angels to cooperate to create a pallace of (mostly) pure gold as a monument to Yaos.
"I made Neron-shaped giant socks for everyone! Even you!""Thank you!" Gift this follower with long life and luck.
"I got only a pack of wooden bows. What is going on?"
"Why does this shirt have a picture of cheese on it?"
"Merry Neronmas!"
(You're not serious are you? The Golden Throne is inside the Paradise Plane. Even if you were able to get past the barrier you're risking countless innocent souls in the process. Even worse is that the body is already capable of talking on its own so you'll probably be doing all this for nothing.)
(Barriers don't go down instantly)
"Yaos, die."Can we just throw him into the void?
Azem has provided much lead and iron for Kyloth to transmute.(I thought alchemy was a secret science that only Yaos and the people who he shared it with knew.)
(How is low-level magicified nuclear chemistry alchemy?)
(How is low-level magicified nuclear chemistry alchemy?)(You're kidding, right?)
(Guys! Hold on before you give everyone common sense! Look, I get why everyone wants to give the races common sense, and I agree for the most part. However, one race should maintain their current level of common sense: Dwarves. Enough said.)
Kli:"What happened was everyone suddenly became more sensible. Perhaps you should seek fun for yourself, now."
"Everyone suddenly became boring. What happened?"
(What if what passes as common sense for Dwarves is something like "stand in MAGMA to burn off my weakness/hangng rolls of fat?")+1
Neron's appearance at the City of Red Stone has led to nearly everyone stepping up to have a wish granted. It is difficult to see who is who.
Seven angelic figures stand before the Council. Their names are Pat, Tom, Rita, Ben, Tria, Mil, and Cassie, and they explain that they are personifications of the Virtues of Patience, Temperance, Charity, Kindness, Diligence, Humility, and Chastity. They also explain that gods exhibiting their virtues will be rewarded."What in the bubble are you? Did Darruth or some other god make you?"
Seven angelic figures stand before the Council. Their names are Pat, Tom, Rita, Ben, Tria, Mil, and Cassie, and they explain that they are personifications of the Virtues of Patience, Temperance, Charity, Kindness, Diligence, Humility, and Chastity. They also explain that gods exhibiting their virtues will be rewarded.Hello.... assorted angels! Quick question, where did you all come from?
Kli: "What is fun like? I forgot.""Fun is a feeling of excitement, fulfilment, and happiness all at once. Why do you say you have forgotten what fun is like?
"...Curious."I too, am curious Cim. About something else. What did you ever do with Ärž?
Cassie Chastity. They also explain that gods exhibiting their virtues will be rewarded.What kind of rewards?
What kind of rewards?"It's probably the kind of chastity where you don't fall for temptations. The...other kind...would be a bit too simple to reward, I feel."
And I think we all have the virtue of chastity...
-snip-((That's a big move. Wouldn't it be a shame if someone were to veto it? Cim wouldn't, but it might still not be a good idea to put all your eggs in one basket like that.))
A strong Rani: "Make me strong enough that the ground may shake where I walk."Granted
An old Rani elder: "Help the people help themselves."
A charitable Shadow Raven: "Make known the wishes of Rita
"Who wants to bet Fusil is going to kill KI` Tork when he sees this."How much do you want to bet? I'll bet 2 essence he doesn't kill him.
"Who wants to bet Fusil is going to kill KI` Tork when he sees this."Cim raises a finger.
"Who wants to bet Fusil is going to kill KI` Tork when he sees this."Two essence for Fusil threatening to kill, two more for actually doing so if KI`Tork follows through with that action.
"Make it rain negative coins in our town!""What do you mean by 'negative' coins?"
"What's wrong with all the dragons?"
"How come no one wants my impact insurance plan any more?"
(Again, everything happens as I sleep :-\)(I know that feel. I just woke up and suddenly there's two new pages in the IC! I don't think that's ever happened during my time playing this game.)
(Again, everything happens as I sleep :-\)(I know that feel. I just woke up and suddenly there's two new pages in the IC! I don't think that's ever happened during my time playing this game.)
"That doesn't even make any sense. It does benefit me though, so I approve.""What are you talking about."
"It doesn't make sense that they would like shinies. Still not complaining though."Quote"That doesn't even make any sense. It does benefit me though, so I approve.""What are you talking about."
"Grauel, my hungry friend, might I have the honor of hosting your next feast? Whenever that may be. You've only had two all these long ticks."
"Explosive Jelly rolls? HERESY!!!!!!"(I like this guy.)
"...Wait when was a jelly roll used as a bomb? I mean there was a lot of people turned into jelly rolls, but I didn't see any of them explode!"(At the beginning of the First Crusade, when Cim, Serac, and Yaos' forces attacked STF, a jelly roll next to Fusil's prison flew at the allied forces and exploded. There were a few wounded but I don't think anyone was killed. Certainly no god has been killed by exploding jelly rolls.)
((I thought it killed 15 paladins, and vaporized their souls...))"...Wait when was a jelly roll used as a bomb? I mean there was a lot of people turned into jelly rolls, but I didn't see any of them explode!"(At the beginning of the First Crusade, when Cim, Serac, and Yaos' forces attacked STF, a jelly roll next to Fusil's prison flew at the allied forces and exploded. There were a few wounded but I don't think anyone was killed. Certainly no god has been killed by exploding jelly rolls.)
(At the beginning of the First Crusade, when Cim, Serac, and Yaos' forces attacked STF, a jelly roll next to Fusil's prison flew at the allied forces and exploded. There were a few wounded but I don't think anyone was killed. Certainly no god has been killed by exploding jelly rolls.)
"They're like coins but they destroy regular coins when they come into contact!""That doesn't sound like a good idea at all."
(My mistake.)((I thought it killed 15 paladins, and vaporized their souls...))"...Wait when was a jelly roll used as a bomb? I mean there was a lot of people turned into jelly rolls, but I didn't see any of them explode!"(At the beginning of the First Crusade, when Cim, Serac, and Yaos' forces attacked STF, a jelly roll next to Fusil's prison flew at the allied forces and exploded. There were a few wounded but I don't think anyone was killed. Certainly no god has been killed by exploding jelly rolls.)
They reluctantly spread the message of Coasts and Humans.(That's....not what the message of Yaos is. Even after his sphere was changed to Coasts, he still insisted that he be worshipped as god of Humans and Ambition. Non-Human worship of him focuses exclusively on Ambition. His spheres after the fourth death and before his last death were Ambition and Coasts.)
A meteor shower has destroyed an otherwise fine garden on Keshan.(I was going to say that I called it, but then I realised that Darruth changed the meteor showers into a comet.)
Sphere ideas this tick are Duty, Depravity, Magic, and Animals.(O_O This sphere doesn't really seem feasible without breaking forum rules.)
(Andres: These are High Elves, who may not know too much about other gods' preferences given their isolation.)(Should I make depravity my second sphere? You only said for new players not to...)
(Incoming players: Yeah, don't choose Depravity as a sphere. I don't always pay attention to what my script picks from the raws, so exercise caution.)
(Andres: These are High Elves, who may not know too much about other gods' preferences given their isolation.)(This would be their second time visiting the Imperial capital, both times they would've stayed a few weeks. Considering the capital is the biggest centre of Yaos worship in the universe I'd find it highly unlikely they wouldn't know about Yaos' spheres, especially since they're making a temple and a few priests might be interested in the non-Human temple to the god of Humans.)
(Perversity but not Perversion or Depravity would be OK. Discussion of details/appeals go through PM or OOC.)(Now hold on, perversion and depravity are two different things. Depravity will get you banned. Perversion simply means corrupted or deviated. Corruption and deviation aren't really that bad (compared to depravity.))
(I have a feeling the mortals are just going to keep pouring in until Azem gets bored and demands that they start fighting already.)(Why not simply limit the amount of non-paying contestants?)
"With your blessing, I have finally eliminated the vizier. The throne shall be mine!""Use your new position to serve your subjects. Do not deceive them about what you intend to do, but hide what you have done if you value your life."
"Hahahahahawantsomesnooooow?"
"Those pesky lowborn mortals may begin encroaching on our land in a few years."
"Um...what about snow?"(Mystic Snow. Once a year, it rains Mystic Snow in celebration of Varee and Yaos. It's basically cocaine.)
"Um...what about snow?"(Mystic Snow. Once a year, it rains Mystic Snow in celebration of Varee and Yaos. It's basically cocaine.)
(That reaction made me lol. :)) But seriously, how have you been playing for this long and not know about it? It's also a really great idea. Not a single complaint and everyone loves it! One guy even praised it as the one day his son wouldn't scream at him!)"Um...what about snow?"(Mystic Snow. Once a year, it rains Mystic Snow in celebration of Varee and Yaos. It's basically cocaine.)
((What the shit?!? That's what it is? That's a horrible idea! What the fuck!?))
KI'Tork encourages the kobolds to rob the rich and spread the loot evenly among the poor."I wonder what Azem will think about this. Could be good for the economy."
"Now all Kobolds Shall be satisfied!"
Azem: The island of Death and Riches continues to live up to its name.
You materialize over the tournament village/camp on a cloud of gold dust. The crowds of participants cheer with assent and raise their weapons.
Yaos has been struck down (perma)!
"....Did Azem just kill Yaos?"Ratu: "Azem would never kill Yaos! He was Yaos' best friend! He's the one entirely responsible for his very existence! He would never hurt Yaos and Yaos would never hurt him!"
Ratu leaves his host. The permakill sword would negate reincarnation anyway, no point in taking the boy with him.
Ratu: "It was Fusil that killed Yaos! Except for the suicide, he's been behind every single one of his deaths!. He was also responsible for the Stone Warriors who slaughtered scores of innocent Gruens and Mountwyrms! Considering that he was in charge of Dar-MA-Gome when he turned into a monster I'd say that nearly every bad thing since the universe began was Fusil's fault in the end. I recommend permanently sealing him and his angels away, if not outright killing them."Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Ratu: "Also, Tykki did not rule for centuries. The Emperor's corpse was found to have a decomposition of weeks, not years.""....Did Azem just kill Yaos?"Ratu: "Azem would never kill Yaos! He was Yaos' best friend! He's the one entirely responsible for his very existence! He would never hurt Yaos and Yaos would never hurt him!"
(So what was with the colour change in the text? You swapped from red to black and this isn't the first time you've done it.)
(GM said that it's possible to spend enough Essence to do it in secret, so yeah.)
"While I would want to believe Fusil's guilt, that story doesn't add up completely. He simply cannot have done everything described without me noticing."I have to agree, I doubt it was Fusil. Unless Fusil wanted us to think it couldn't possibly be Fusil, but Fusil is not cunning enough to do that. Also, that didn't sound like Tykki's voice, and the permakill weapon was a sword? (but that could change.)
Cim, now you should compare all the gods to that energy signature and we have the culprit. All the gods and angels."I had the foresight. As I said, the culprit is nobody I've met."
What does that egg do anyways Fusil? Revive you?
"Indeed, but I would suspect an Angel more than a God. How many of us have Angels they haven't told the Council about?"
"I would like to propose that we now disband Yaos` empire and scatter the humans across the world so that they can do what they were made to do, act as a neutral race that lives everywhere and worship all the gods equally. I would also like to suggest that the rest of Yaos` angels are mindwiped and given to new gods such as KI` Tork."
Read the mind of the old Rani, is he talking about the Rita the race of avians or something else.
Seven angelic figures stand before the Council. Their names are Pat, Tom, Rita, Ben, Tria, Mil, and Cassie, and they explain that they are personifications of the Virtues of Patience, Temperance, Charity, Kindness, Diligence, Humility, and Chastity. They also explain that gods exhibiting their virtues will be rewarded.
Kli:"This tree shall not harm you, I will be sure of that.
Nervous Pilgrim: "I am entering this tree now. This may be the last you will hear from me."
Bored Child: "Why is playing gravitational dart ninjas no longer fun?"
Balanced Builder: "We have begun constructing a massive working set of bronze scales in the deep forest. May you bless our construction."
Why do you care so much, Neron? They do not appear to be harming anyone."A powerful angel was suspected to have murdered Yaos and now someone else has died. Meanwhile 7 angels powerful enough to resist a god reading their minds have appeared. I`m just wondering if maybe these angels could be connected.
I think, at least...
"I'll jump off this tower and Darruth will let me float down slowly! Then you'll see Darruth is the best!"Should the person jump anyway and Darruth decide not to let his worshipers test their God, Cim manipulates chance: as the person falls, a maid of the tower 'coincidentally' places a carpet on a railing on a balcony, which catches onto the clothing of the falling person to fall with him/her. The carpet wraps around the next balcony's rail just right to slow him/her down and swing him/her onto the balcony after that safely.
"I have invented a spoon that is also a forked utensil!""You have truly honored the name of KI'Tork with this marvelous device, I shall grant you immortality so that you might be able to guide the Kobold Empire for all eternity,Should you wish it"
"Wheere caan Iii find moore of that Soporific Miiiiiilk?""Right here my good man!"
Uh...please describe what you're talking about, so I can be sure.
"I have a feeling that Fate still has a use for her."
Serac: Will you allow this? :PSend the answers to Yaos. ;)
Just in case, the human council are "asked" to disband the empire. Ill do it in person. This is a relic of Yaos that needs to be disbanded."If I had 30 essence I would defend the Human Empire as they have done no wrong,But as it stands I''ll support this if the Kobolds get a Lion's Share of the loot."(OOC: :P)
"Does someone need to kill you again Lord of Arms?"
"And which one of us was weakened enough that they actually died in the explosion?"
So. I'm pretty sure that another God stole Palatino's body. I suspect either The Judge, The Feasting King, or possibly The Trickster, because that is always a possibility. However, questioning The Trickster would be less than useless. So, Cim. I suspect you because you took Tykki, and thus obviously have the capability, though it may have been an accident. I suspect Grauel because of his hunger and his desire to eat the bodies after the battle, or have his followers do so; when the explosion happened, he may have decided to eat the bodies that were there anyway."Am I The Trickster you speak of? That's cute. You think I merely trick, do you?"
In any case, I'm going to ask the rest of you if you did so, anyway, just to be sure, though I believe the Armsmaster would find it beneath his contempt to do so, and many of the others have little or no reason to.
Darruth informs KI'Tork that harboring Jelly Rolls worshippers in his lands will get him smote by the council very very quickly, as Jelly Rolls are instrinsically opposed to the gods for whatever reason. Or he could just end up getting assassinated by the people he's harboring. Either way, bad idea, dude.
"I seem to remember turning a fair few of your automations into shinies. For now, I will let your actions speak for themselves. And wait for you to toe a line."
Only reason you got Tykki back was because we helped you do so, Fusil. Keep that in mind. MAD was the only reason we didn't proceed to destroy you in light of your threats.
"Who or what are you?"
Was that you Fusil?
Darruth seems terribly exasperated.
Well, there are several ways I could answer that. For one thing, you could have used essence right before the end of the tick, so that when you gained Essence, it would look like you hadn't spent anything. For another, because it said it was from Quebare, and you tend to take poorly to your followers dying. For a third, it could ve a void being, trying to foment conflict, it could be another god, trying to provoke you, it could be a lot of things, really. The ice and the fact that the god of deception would never just leave a note proclaiming he did it makes it obvious itwasn't Quebare.
Did you kill Fusil's followers, Neron, God(dess?) of Ice?
"I hope you don't plan on getting any closer. You'd probably be safe in the air if I hadn't made a special breed of dragon just to guard it."
A. There you go making assumptions again. If you had more essence income than lost, you easily could have done so. Or you could have had a bomb ready to blow up anyone who gave you lip anyway. Or an angel could have done it. Or you could have used Essence you stored externally. That said, I believe you that it wasn't you.
B. we could ask Qeubare himself, now that he's back up.
C. Extinction events will inevitably turn the council against you once more, and it's quite obvious that complaining about the rules doesn't change them, and you can still be sealed, and you can still be killed.
D. Yeah actually I don't buy that bit about Void beings being unable to do so. Besides which, you have flat-out lied before, so I don't actually have any reason to think of you as a credible source about anything other than how nice a sword is.
(Why don't you guys just ask the Oracle?)
(The Oracle is not cheap. It's 3E per question and subject to the whim of Serac.)
(Additionally, I think there was a restriction of one question per god and no questions from angels from the start.)
"What do you mean making assumptions? I was simply stating it could not be me for those reasons. If my Angel could deal death blows without me having to put essence to it, why would I be putting up with such accusations? We could ask him, and ask him if he attacked. Of course, we can't believe what he says. God of lies, remember? He could of exploded himself. And seeing how slowly the council acts, I doubt anything would happen to me if I justifiable wiped out the enemy. And the fact that you are to stupid to know the obvious and easily researchable truth still has nothing to do with the current conversation."((I had a response to this and it was suitably snarky and everything, but then my iPad ate my post by making my browser crash. >.>))
"Let me guess, he was a follower of Neron?"Darruth facepalms.
It was obviously QueBare who killed them. I don't know where the explosion came from, but maybe it will remind him how fragile he and his followers are compared to me? There are few enough elves that I can wipe them out in an afternoon."Servant of Flame:"Perhaps these threats are evidence? I really could have done a lot of more productive things than blow myself up. I also find it fairly convenient that your enemies are getting stabbed, blown up, and assaulted all the time. I did not attack your followers, and would not have gained anything by doing so. If you think my word is false, prove it to be so, but unless you can actually argue your point, I think we can all agree it was you.
"Drama queen. Obviously, you are a liar. Do you have any solid proof that it was me? Your word is as good as dirt. And why did you assault my innocent followers?"
"What do you mean making assumptions? I was simply stating it could not be me for those reasons. If my Angel could deal death blows without me having to put essence to it, why would I be putting up with such accusations? We could ask him, and ask him if he attacked. Of course, we can't believe what he says. God of lies, remember? He could of exploded himself. And seeing how slowly the council acts, I doubt anything would happen to me if I justifiable wiped out the enemy. And the fact that you are to stupid to know the obvious and easily researchable truth still has nothing to do with the current conversation."[/color]
"I'm so glad to inhabit the same bubble as you people. So very very glad."I'm starting to see what you mean.
Servant of Flame:"Perhaps these threats are evidence? I really could have done a lot of more productive things than blow myself up. I also find it fairly convenient that your enemies are getting stabbed, blown up, and assaulted all the time. I did not attack your followers, and would not have gained anything by doing so. If you think my word is false, prove it to be so, but unless you can actually argue your point, I think we can all agree it was you.
As far as to why you didn't try to kill me the same way you did Yaos, you would have gotten caught. Your Angel impaling 2 Gods on her sword would have been so blatantly obvious, especially when it works out in your favor. Perhaps you weren't trying to kill me at all. Perhaps you thought I was getting out of hand and sought to intimidate me. I am no one's slave, Fusil. Do not treat me as one.
Servant of Flame (Quéßäre talking through him(changed text to reflect that)):"Actually, yes I did mention the creation of this angel. I hardly think the Servant of Flame would kill someone like that, anyway.
"It makes everyone an enemy. Logic can barely be applied to such a person."
"I'm sorry. It means that you want only one thing: power. Anything between you and that power is an obstacle that must be removed. Everything else is a tool to achieve it...I think I'm beginning to understand your mind Fusil, and it's repulsive.
Also, that whole "God of Lies" excuse is just that, an excuse. I will not excuse your lack of counter-argument."
"I tire of this senseless chatter. Perhaps you did not do it. I might be wrong. I'm not afraid to admit it. I stand by the fact that your sadistic and power hungry, though."
Seals himself in Àrenne with the High-Elves.
"Fusil definitely has something to hide, considering the extreme defensiveness and 'coincidental' decision to dissolve the Empire when it was about to get some questions answered. Still, I doubt Kaybar killed those followers and that Fusil caused the explosion, though that would be understandable. I will investigate and look for proof."
"I think Darruth asked me to clearly state this: I did not steal Palatine's body. Taking Tykki might have even been a mistake, because if I hadn't, whoever took the others would have taken her, who seems to be much harder to recapture Angels from."
"You said yourself my word is not to be trusted. If I say I think you're sadistic and power hungry, by your logic I said you weren't."
"Analysis done on the ice block. Again, nobody I know, not Kaybar or even whoever killed Ratu. This signature was rather...watery."
Two Controller angels have been struck down (perma)!
I kinda asumed that they were casualties of spliting the Empire. Or hunted down by Harbringer. Or Fusil. Could had been sacrificed by a Void cult in some ritual. But all those reasons will either reveal themselves soon or are entirely inconsequential."Hehe, no. That....was me." Appearing before the council is a woman with dark red hair, plate armour of the same colour, a longsword strapped to her waist, a cape black on the outside and red in, and blue eyes to contrast. "I am Malakath, goddess of Souls and Blood. It is a pleasure to meet the acquaintance of everyone else. As for how the angels died, it was a little unfortunate. I was born in the exact location one of the angels was, killing it, and when the other attacked me I slew it with my sword, Dracorex." On the crossguard of her sword its name can be seen etched on it. "To say that they're permanently killed was a bit....inaccurate. I contain their souls inside me and so I could simply bring them back to life but I see no point in doing so *just* yet."
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I kinda asumed that they were casualties of spliting the Empire. Or hunted down by Harbringer. Or Fusil. Could had been sacrificed by a Void cult in some ritual. But all those reasons will either reveal themselves soon or are entirely inconsequential."Hehe, no. That....was me." Appearing before the council is a woman with dark red hair, plate armour of the same colour, a longsword strapped to her waist, a cape black on the outside and red in, and blue eyes to contrast. "I am Malakath, goddess of Souls and Blood. It is a pleasure to meet the acquaintance of everyone else. As for how the angels died, it was a little unfortunate. I was born in the exact location one of the angels was, killing it, and when the other attacked me I slew it with my sword, Dracorex." On the crossguard of her sword its name can be seen etched on it. "To say that they're permanently killed was a bit....inaccurate. I contain their souls inside me and so I could simply bring them back to life but I see no point in doing so *just* yet."
[/b][/glow]
The new goddess addresses herself to the universe's denizens:
"I AM LORD MALAKATH VANDIRE SEPHIR LECTA. YOU MAY ADDRESS ME AS LORD MALAKATH OR LORD LECTA. I AM YOUR NEW GODDESS OF SOULS AND BLOOD. WORSHIP ME AND YOU SHALL HAVE LIMITLESS PARADISE UPON YOUR DEATH." (Listeners feel five minutes of pure happiness, love, peace, and nostalgia) "PLEDGE YOUR SOUL TO ME AND GAIN GREAT POWER." (Listeners feel five minutes of great power and are enraptured by the power so they do not act on it) "BLASPHEME AGAINST ME AND BE DESTROYED." (No magical effect here, just a warning) THAT IS WHAT I OFFER."
With the speech out of the way, she creates 200 animal spirits. 90 will go to Keshan, 90 to Slytha, and 20 to Muna. The spirits will be placed in higher animals such as black dragons, wargs, elephants, eagles, etc.Spoiler: Animal Spirits (click to show/hide)
Using the controller angels' powers, Malakath enters the Yaosian dimension and turns it into the Malakathian dimension(<10E).
"Apologies. Based on what KI'Tork did I thought I might be privileged to do the same." (Link (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=144651.msg5874330#msg5874330)) "Regardless, I thank you for not outright destroying me for my transgression and giving me a chance to learn from my mistake."
(I can't wait till the next Tick! Then I can create blood oaths and marriages and all other kinds of stuff!)
"Ah, yes, you're right. This angel's memory was a bit foggy, apparently. It only remembered that the message got through, but not that it was vetoed. It is indeed a wise thing for me to recheck the Council records.""Apologies. Based on what KI'Tork did I thought I might be privileged to do the same." (Link (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=144651.msg5874330#msg5874330)) "Regardless, I thank you for not outright destroying me for my transgression and giving me a chance to learn from my mistake."
(I can't wait till the next Tick! Then I can create blood oaths and marriages and all other kinds of stuff!)
"How did you...In any case, literally the entire council worked together to Veto that action. Your knowlage if history is impressive for a newborn, but you may want to look back in the records. "
"Oh Mighty LORD MALAKATH you might not wanna do that, But whatever,You wanna form a pantheon?""Not really, no. I'd like to interact with the rest of the gods first and see what they're like. For example, the angels thought of Fusil as literally the most awful being in existence, but in person he's actually rather polite and well-spoken. It was a rather pleasant surprise! Though I must ask what the difference between a pantheon and an alliance is."
That something, well, one of somethings is this. God of satisfaction atempted this gig out of unknowing, and quickly abandoned such ideas few explanations later. It all happened before two angels died, which suposedly happened as accident from manifestation of Lecty. So Lecty has been here for a while, and those two death were a deliberate action, as confirmed by usage of their souls to claim a plane. I have little doubt that angels of Yaos will defend plane of creator from such intrusion and I will help them."Actually, no, the first death was an entirely coincidental accident. I purposely killed the second one but only because it was attacking me, I'd literally been born only a second ago, I was receiving a large influx of memories without preparing for it, and I was so horribly, horribly confused about what was going on that I just let instinct take over." (Can GM confirm this?) "As for the angels, they are unlikely to defend the plane for two reasons: one, they've sealed themselves away fearing their safety and wouldn't try to risk their life for a mere plane, and two, they can't, because they've sealed themselves away. In any case, I am currently in negotiation with the angels and it appears they're going to allow me to take the plane."
Send Kyloth to defend Yaosian plane.
"I guess this means I can't blame Fusil for their deaths. What a shame."
Angels of Yaos, very same angels that refused to allow spliting apart the empire even though it would had changed virtualy nothing, who had served very same god that would had claimed stars in the sky if he could, are just giving away a dimension and probably even becoming your servants?"They're not quite giving me the dimension so much as loaning it and their servitude to me until Yaos is revived. As it turns out, they only refused the splitting of the Empire because it went against Yaos' Will and Testament. Since my deal doesn't contradict it, they see no reason to decline if I'm offering something of equal exchange. On my side, I'm bringing back the dead Controllers, offering them protection, and allowing them to find a way to revive Yaos in their spare time."
Cim, you are the resident expert of essense scaning and mind control, could you check this for me?
"How many angels of Yaos are even left?""1E and I'll tell you."
(I edited the last bit of my previous post.)"How many angels of Yaos are even left?""1E and I'll tell you."
And if you are a goddess of blood and souls...I will give you fair warning. Stray too far into the pathof evil and I will be forced to act to protect my people. I would prefer otherwise, of course, but your actions so far do not leave me in good hopes. That said, welcome to existence, Malakath.
As for Cim and Grauel I suspect they made their own seoerate physical dimensions and have a worshiper base there.
Why are you even bothering to try and take an empty plane, anyway?"I'm actually after the whole dimension, not just one of its planes. The idea of Evil being punished and Good being rewarded before reincarnating is an appealing prospect to me. It is cheaper to convert an unguarded dimension than it is to create a new one, assuming you have access to the dimension's keys."
And if you are a goddess of blood and souls...I will give you fair warning. Stray too far into the pathof evil and I will be forced to act to protect my people. I would prefer otherwise, of course, but your actions so far do not leave me in good hopes. That said, welcome to existence, Malakath."I intend to be Good, actually. If I wanted to be Evil, I could've just made my own dimension, broke into Yaos', and paid for my dimension by eating all of the souls in Yaos' dimension. Then I would've hunted down the remaining angels and proceed to fuse them into a demon. It's a lot easier, a lot faster, I lose nothing, and there's no risk. I'm putting a lot of effort into being Good."
"Must you always assume things of a Deity's conduct before they even make a move? Again you are stereotyping based on spheres. As you have shown, our personality doesn't need to be related at all to our spheres.""I agree with Fusil. I'm rather insulted that I be judged simply because of my spheres. If I were the god of Genocide or Hatred then you might have had a point, but Souls and Blood are Neutral spheres. Thank you for defending my honour, Fusil. I appreciate it.
But even at his worst Yaos couldn't even hold a candle to you.(What are you saying here? That no matter how greedy Yaos was he was never as greedy as Azem?)
As for Cim and Grauel I suspect they made their own seoerate physical dimensions and have a worshiper base there."I don't know about Cim but I suspect Grauel's worshipper base comes from the Bubble he created."
"You clearly lack any sort of fundamental understanding of how the universe works godling. All the afterlife planes are in one council created and owned dimension.""That's....not really true. The original Shadow Realm and Human Plane - which still exist - are within the Council-made dimension known as the Spirit World. At some point, he created his own custom dimension outside of the Spirit World and moved all the souls from the old Shadow Realm and Human Plane into the new Shadow Realm and Human Plane. He did this because he felt Spirit World planes were too easy to break into, even when they were given extra protection."
"Hm. I stand corrected. Out of curiosity, what do the angel's memories tell you about me? I am willing to pay your fee for this information.""Let's see here.....ok. When he was young, he didn't really like anyone, including you. Eventually, though, he grew to understand that you were responsible for him and his Humans and defaulted to appreciating you. Then you started actively going out of your way to help him and he started full-on liking you. As a friend of course. He wasn't lying in his will - your friendship and loyalty really did mean a lot to him, though he was rather upset when you damned his race to further die by the economic disaster you cursed them with. He wasn't upset enough to stop considering you as a friend but it did hurt."
"Really, Fusil? (glaring) You seem to think mine is.(I edited the last bit of my previous post.)"How many angels of Yaos are even left?""1E and I'll tell you."
"Keep up these charges and the answer will be 'none'"QuoteAnd if you are a goddess of blood and souls...I will give you fair warning. Stray too far into the pathof evil and I will be forced to act to protect my people. I would prefer otherwise, of course, but your actions so far do not leave me in good hopes. That said, welcome to existence, Malakath.
"Must you always assume things of a Deity's conduct before they even make a move? Again you are stereotyping based on spheres. As you have shown, our personality doesn't need to be related at all to our spheres."
"Hm. Not really anything I didn't already know. What about you godling? Do you have any questions for an Elder?""None, actually. If I did, I probably wouldn't spend Essence to ask it considering the low amount I have now. Do you have any more questions for me? There's some pretty good information you can buy if you just ask the right questions."
Hello! Most of you don't know me... I guess all of you since Serac left."This new god reminds me of someone, but I can't quite place my finger on-"
But hello! I am the new goddess of Death and Dust! :D Hopefully we can get along well!
Serac already told me a bit about most of you, so no introductions are needed. He agreed to help me get a footing in the council, so don't think I'm just some new weakling. >:(
Create 3000 twilight born, and a bell of twilight in each of their cities.O_O Vetovetovetovetoveto Malakath summons the two dead angels as familiars (let's say they're 80-85% as powerful as they would be if they were alive) to evacuate the cities of everyone before the new god can nuke them. After everyone's out, the veto ends and the angels go back inside Malakath.
"I do have another question, if you can answer it. How did Yaos cheat death so many times?""I cannot answer that question. The Controllers might get angry and break off the deal if I did. Darruth, you promised not to reveal the method so please don't."
To start, I need followers! And Serac says the easiest way to get followers is to make them, so let's go! :)
Create 3000 twilight born, and a bell of twilight in each of their cities.
(I edited my post. I accidentally made it look like my reason was to prevent him from getting followers.)QuoteTo start, I need followers! And Serac says the easiest way to get followers is to make them, so let's go! :)
Create 3000 twilight born, and a bell of twilight in each of their cities.
"Unveto! These guys sound inventive and undisruptive. Why veto them?"
(I interpreted it as being solely for the Twilight-born cities)(Are there even any Twilight-born cities in existence? They're a new race. An incorporeal race at that. I'm going to assume the bells are being created where cities will eventually be built.)
(I edited my post. I accidentally made it look like my reason was to prevent him from getting followers.)QuoteTo start, I need followers! And Serac says the easiest way to get followers is to make them, so let's go! :)
Create 3000 twilight born, and a bell of twilight in each of their cities.
"Unveto! These guys sound inventive and undisruptive. Why veto them?"
"I don't mind him creating the 3000 Twilight Born he has planned, but he's not creating any new cities so I can only assume he's using a presently existing city - cities whose people have not agreed to literally be turned to dust and become undead. I'm vetoing his attempts at creating the bells - not the Twilight Born."
"Ah. I was under the impression the bells tolled automatically. Thank you for clearing that up, though you are a little bit incorrect on sentience and worship. Neither sentients nor non-sentients are capable of worship - only sapients are."(I edited my post. I accidentally made it look like my reason was to prevent him from getting followers.)QuoteTo start, I need followers! And Serac says the easiest way to get followers is to make them, so let's go! :)
Create 3000 twilight born, and a bell of twilight in each of their cities.
"Unveto! These guys sound inventive and undisruptive. Why veto them?"
"I don't mind him creating the 3000 Twilight Born he has planned, but he's not creating any new cities so I can only assume he's using a presently existing city - cities whose people have not agreed to literally be turned to dust and become undead. I'm vetoing his attempts at creating the bells - not the Twilight Born."
"Seeing as the Twilight-born are able to worship her, they must be sentient. If they are sentient, then the bell tolling is at least partially controlled. They are no more a danger to others than a normal race."
Cim, you are the resident expert of essense scaning and mind control, could you check this for me?"Yes, I could."
And I still want to know how Cim got that high in the first place, anyway.
As for Cim and Grauel I suspect they made their own seoerate physical dimensions and have a worshiper base there.[/glow][/color]"Good guess, but no."
"You clearly lack any sort of fundamental understanding of how the universe works godling. All the afterlife planes are in one council created and owned dimension.""They definitely aren't. I have emprical proof of this, but not something to reveal at this moment, at least publicly. Contact me if you (pl.) are curious."
Now if Grauel could only answer my question, everything would be just peachy...anyone know where his extra worshippers came from, by the way? He's outstripping Cim by this point.
Atropos. You inherited Serac's possessions? I'll buy the fact teller thing off you for 9 essence assuming it's unique.The fact teller? You mean the oracle? No thank you, I like it where it is!
(So are you trying to create a new dimension or are you trying to convert it or are you trying to make new planes in the dimension or something else? I fear I may end up misinterpreting the action with the editing thing.)(I leave Yaos' dimension alone. I create my own dimension like Yaos' one but without the third plane.)
I spoke of my question concerning the theft of Palatino. If you have your own planes, and you are stashing my Arkanjel's corpse there, it very much concerns me.
So I will ask again. Did you take Palatino?
Propose a system where souls will naturally form from a being's consciousness as they grow from a baby if there is no soul to be reincarnated, instead of arbitrarily spawning
EDIT: I revive one of the angels. I will revive the other angel after the rest of the controllers join me.
(How would you know about Azem destroying the economy?)
(How would you know about Azem destroying the economy?)(The two angels I killed? I ate their souls by accident. That means I have all of their memories. Also, Council records are a thing. I'm charging 1E for answering any questions about Yaos, save for his revival method.)
"Oppose. That would ruin the current system that you know nothing of.""..."
(It will still probably cost two, not being a minor action)(It costs 2E to revive just one angel, but just in case you're right....)
(I did point him to the council records. Maybe he read it there? Durrath wrote a book that might help if not)(Darruth wrote a book on the economy? When and why?)
Malakath takes it upon herself to go to the Yaosian dimension and separate the gods their angels' ashes. She'll start by singling out Darruth's angels.Are there still ashes to seperate? I was under impresion that any unstolen angels have allready revived.
Malakath's new angels will begin spreading Malakath's teaching in places where Yaosian worship was weak to non-existent and where they hopefully haven't seen Yaosian angels.Golems and Gremlins are given permision to chainsaw Malakath's new angels on sight.
EDIT: I revive one of the angels. I will revive the other angel after the rest of the controllers join me.So now they have to chose between serving you and condeming one of their bretheren to uncertain fate. From lies to threats I see.
Are there still ashes to seperate? I was under impresion that any unstolen angels have allready revived.(To be honest I have no idea.)
Golems and Gremlins are given permision to chainsaw Malakath's new angels on sight."Why are you doing this? Ever since I came into the world you've been antagonising me and I have no idea why."
So now they have to chose between serving you and condeming one of their bretheren to uncertain fate. From lies to threats I see."You have a point in that it is an uncertain fate, though I'm fairly certain I haven't lied to them. To clarify, any soul that my body hold enters a sleeping state, save for when I speak with them or summon them as familiars."
(Malakath: -2E)(What did I spend this 2E on? It couldn't have been from entering the dimension - I still have the two angels within me.)
A Controller angel has been struck down!Who was the Controller's master? Malakath or Yaos? If it's Yaosian, I claim the soul and place it in the Heavenly Plane. If it's one of mine, it should've gone there automatically. I find the soul and ask them how, where, and why they were killed as well as who killed them.
"What did Yaos think of my angels then?""That's another 1E, but it's probably best if you ask a different question."
"That's another 1E, but it's probably best if you ask a different question."
Grauel: You attend the feast. Much has occurred since it started, and the town seems larger even with an interval of less than a year.
"What must I eat if I want to survive the heat far beneath our feet?"
"Eat me! Eat me! Eat me!"
"What kind of food do you like the most?"
"Can we have your sacred saliva?"
I dislike you becouse you want to claim and change what was once Yaos instead of making your own. Such lazy behaviour when it comes to creation is an insult to me."I will acquiesce to this point. I am ashamed. Hopefully my new creations - including how I structured the afterlife - are considered unique enough for your tastes."
You say that angels of Yaos are dealing with you by their free will when you hold two of them hostage."I say they deal with my of their own free will because I am not controlling their minds and I am not forcing them to accept. Again, I must apologise if I made it sound like something else. As for why I'm holding them hostage, it is a matter of necessity. I have non-selfish reasons for doing so and I will hopefully be able to explain these reasons. Since Darruth may have worked out what these reasons are, I have secretly told him and he can confirm that I am not doing what I am doing for selfish reasons."
You say that they are doing this for Yaos while claiming and twisting all his creations into unrecognisable forms."This confuses me. I am doing none of this for a dead god. As for twisting his creations into unrecognisable form, I have no idea what you're talking about. I fear that I may be doing so accidentally so if you could tell me what I'm doing wrong I can stop myself."
Your atempt to influence the mortal minds was stoped, so now you try to do the same by sending angels to preach your word to our worshipers."My intent was to give them a small taste of what they can get if they worship me. I didn't intend, want, or try to brainwash them and I apologised for trying to undertake that action. As for sending angels to spread my word, I thought that was entirely allowed; I'm not demanding exclusive worship after all. Would you prevent Darruth from spreading the word of Good to your cities? Or Fusil the word of Weapons? These are genuine questions - I want to know what I can and cannot do so I don't end up upsetting people as I am now with my ignorance."
If I allowed you to simply get away with all of this, I would have only myself to blame when my worshipers started praising the blood goddess and my creations are taken away from me, all the while my vasals are slaughtered. Ever since your manifestation you claimed whatever you saw, as if this bubble was yours to begin with. It started with works of a dead god, I doubt it will end at that. Even to ask a question conserning how much you intend to take you ask us to pay. Ypur desire is reflected by your actions. Others are content to ignore this, as you are not yet a threat, but I shall not."Do you mistake me for a conquest goddess!? I do not want to take your creations from you any more than any other god and I CERTAINLY don't want to slaughter your vassals. Why would I even want to do that? In any case, I have stopped trying to interfere with Yaos' things (save his angels, but that's necessary) and will endeavour to pursue my own path."
"I cannot think of any more questions to ask at the moment.""Really? You're not interested in what they're researching at ISAY? Or the identity of HoDo? The name of the Ninja Assassin? What about the level of involvement he had in the creation of the Stone Warriors or the monsters from before that?"
Azem yawns.
Malakath's angels have begun spreading the teachings of Malakath. One of them has been sawn to bits by a band of irate Golems and Gremlins."Blasphemy! I warned ALL mortals of what would happen to blasphemers. Now it's time to show that I'm a lady of my word." I find, kill, and destroy the souls of the murderers. Notice how I warned that I'd "destroy" anyone who blasphemed against me instead of "kill".
Malakath has initiated the concepts of blood oaths and blood marriages and created a new system of blood magic aligned to herself.Just to make it clear, blood oaths, marriages, and magic are not exclusive to those who worship me. Blood magic does get more powerful when the mage worships me, though, and Divine blood magic actually is exclusive to those who worship me. I'll still get Influence from usage of all this blood stuff even if they don't worship me, right?
Malakath (Souls, Blood): 7/20, 1-2What did I spend all that Essence on? Creating 200 animal spirits cost 4-5E (I only made 100, though) and I spent 8E on the dimension so I spent a maximum of 13E. Adding the 4E that Azem gave me just now and the 1E he gave me from before I should have 12E right now.
Usualy, when a new god manifests, it creates something new, they add to the creation. They create a race to sustain them in their work, which gives time to see their goals and personalities."Aside from introducing myself, giving a speech, and eating angels, that's the very first thing I did. Animal spirits now exist and I plan to create a great deal more."
You however, have spent your power on creating a plane for unfantomable reason and gained an army of angels which serve you for a reason I fail to immagine. You have power, and we have no idea of what you would do with it."My reasons for creating a dimension is numerous. I have an actual home, I create an incentive for people to worship me, it allows a reward for successful blood marriages, and it protects the souls under my care. On your question about angels, one of the reasons I am building an "army" is simply so they can serve as missionaries. Recruiting already-existing angels is free while even creating a slightly magical prophet costs Essence. There's another reason why I want these angels and that reason shall be revealed soon. Also, I have a lot less power than you think I do. Or perhaps I have more than I think I do..... Why do you think I'm so powerful again?"
It would be easy to send out said angels with orders to be a little bit more persuasive in their spreading of word."That's literally what they were and are doing. They were persuading people to become my followers. Not my EXCLUSIVE followers - just to include me in their worship of the rest of the gods."
So I allowed my followers to express their desire for excecive preaching to stop. They are not required to kill your angels, but they are allowed. I doubt any would try unless your servants were unable to identify growing dissatisfaction within the crowd."They have done so and will be destroyed for their actions. You may have allowed them to act as they did but I certainly didn't!"
"It seems another war is brewing. I think Ill sit this one out, for now at least. Anyone need equipment? Also, I believe the Blood god is causing the tremors in his attempts at reviving Yaos.""The tremors aren't me. Why don't we just ask the Oracle? I already used up my free question to ask who took the Yaosian souls. (To the one who did it, don't worry, I'm ok with it.) Also, I'm not trying to revive Yaos. You can confirm that with the oracle as well."
(I was suposed to protect their souls/lives while angels defended them from more physical attacks. My next post is rather dependant on wether or not this protecting happened.)owever, if they start agressively pushing their god, it is only fair for mortals to give them an oportunity to cool off a bit.[/glow][/color](I agree that that shouldn't have happened. Especially if it turns out my angels were in the wrong and I wasn't being told about it.)
You, Azem, and other gods have nothing to fear. I take no offence in angels praising their creators, it would be more worying if they didin't. However, if they start agressively pushing their god, it is only fair for mortals to give them an oportunity to cool off a bit."We don't know the full extent of an angel's ability to revive on their own. Quite a few angels from the Second Crusade have not revived, for example. In any case, death is much too great a punishment for the crime of merely preaching, even if the death is merely temporary. They could've just asked the angels to leave."
And what then, is defined as blasphemy, Malakath? Anything you do not agree with, or simply direct opposition to you?"Anything in serious opposition to me. Burning my temples, slaughtering my followers, killing my angels.... Should I abandon this policy?"
Destruction of a person's soul is a punishment more suitably called a crime..."It certainly was disproportionate retribution. Considering the events of the previous Ticks it's hard to remember that not all deaths are permanent. I'll admit that I was definitely wrong in permanently killing them and that's why I'm going to do a bit of time-travelling to bring them back to life. Care to help?"
(Do Golems not have minds?)(Types 4 and 5 Golems do.)
"Just thought everyone would like to now, the Lich is causing the tremors."
Azem rolls his eyes."You're referring to the time that Grauel unleashed his Essence monster on the Human capital? Yes, he certainly managed to escape karmic backlash despite being responsible for far more permanent deaths than I."
"It's not like we did anything the last time peoples souls were destroyed."
Good morning everyone! It seems like a great day for some death!
Or life, as it happens.
Create a race of desert dwelling people that look like me and lead people to their deaths with illusions of safety. (Control of mirages) They can also produce bursts of extreme heat in danger, but will die if rain falls on them.
"But Fusil, if they are made to kill things that does make them weapons. Isn't that true?"Good morning everyone! It seems like a great day for some death!
Or life, as it happens.
Create a race of desert dwelling people that look like me and lead people to their deaths with illusions of safety. (Control of mirages) They can also produce bursts of extreme heat in danger, but will die if rain falls on them.
"You should know, Young God, that many of us do not take our followers being slain in such a way lightly. A race designed with the intention of murdering others does not bode well with me. At least your other creations attempted to avoid it, needless death, but these seem to seek it for its own sake. If they end up becoming trouble, I might just have to enchant Serac's eternal rainfall to bring life and death to these deserts in another way."
"But Fusil, if they are made to kill things that does make them weapons. Isn't that true?"Good morning everyone! It seems like a great day for some death!
Or life, as it happens.
Create a race of desert dwelling people that look like me and lead people to their deaths with illusions of safety. (Control of mirages) They can also produce bursts of extreme heat in danger, but will die if rain falls on them.
"You should know, Young God, that many of us do not take our followers being slain in such a way lightly. A race designed with the intention of murdering others does not bode well with me. At least your other creations attempted to avoid it, needless death, but these seem to seek it for its own sake. If they end up becoming trouble, I might just have to enchant Serac's eternal rainfall to bring life and death to these deserts in another way."
T74
Last day of micro-updates.Spoiler: Lawmode (click to show/hide)Spoiler: Deities (click to show/hide)Spoiler: Proposals (click to show/hide)
A supernaturally powerful plague resisting magic and mundane cures has broken out and killed a full quarter of the Kobold population.Someone remind me, what's Fusil's stance on Kobolds, again? Priests and mages are sent to heal as many Kobolds as possible.
Strange beasts have appeared everywhere. Most are not hostile, but their appearances are deeply disturbing.Do they test positive on the VDD? If not, I eat the soul of a hostile one and send its corpse to one of the three science places (ISAY, Neron University, or Darruthian Med.) for dissection so long as they swear a blood oath to share their results with me. This is the point where I should say that blood oaths aren't 100% strict. If they forget to, for example, send a single important note that accidentally got lost amid the rest of the reports then they won't die. The point of blood oaths is to make people keep their word, not just to kill them. If they don't agree to the request of taking an oath, it'll just go to ISAY with no blood oath requirement. Their god is less likely to try to keep the truth hidden for....obvious reasons.
"Another plague? You're kidding, right?"
Someone remind me, what's Fusil's stance on Kobolds, again? Priests and mages are sent to heal as many Kobolds as possible.
I eat the soul of a wyrm and a warg.
@Fusil: "Hey Fusil, you know how you opposed my idea of naturally forming souls because it would mess up the reincarnation system? Well, what about Shinjo? They're souls that naturally form on their own yet you don't seem to have a problem with them."
The terrestrial angel priests are sent to spread Lord Lecta's word in Mermaid, Human, Gruen, Ophanim, and Armu capital cities. An additional angel priest is made so that there's one priest for each race on each world.
"I have ignored them almost completely. Do you think such a small number is a threat to the massive, well armed, tentacled hordes of the Armu?"((That part was supposed to be OOC. I forgot to put the parentheses.)) "That's why I think it was another god. It's true that you could've theoretically done it to avoid getting indicted by the Council for creating a megadeath but I don't see skulduggery as really being your style. No offence."
"....Keep this monster away from my followers. If that is what she does to her own creations, I will have nightmares of what she does to mine.""I'm not even mad that you called me a monster, I'm just pleased that I'm respected enough to be feared even by the mighty god of weapons," she says genuinely without sarcasm, "I didn't create wargs though, and these are sentient, non-sapient souls I'm eating. Never know when I might need one of them as a familiar. I probably won't do anything to your followers, though. I don't want to pick a fight with a god, much less the supremely powerful god of Weapons."
"I am the one who created them. They where not designed as a race of mortals, breeding, eating, bleeding, and dieing as mortals do, but as a race of helpful spirits. They serve many of the same functions as mortals do, but are not exactly similar. Trying to change every mortal race to the same generation as the Shinjo, who are not a mortal race, will most definitely ruin the perfect system I have worked so hard to set up and defend."[/color]"Actually, they can and do in fact, breed, eat, bleed, and die. Well, mature ones with a Human form do at any rate. I hear a half-Warhammer, half-Luminee has managed to gain quite a bit of power in some Luminee city."
"If the Angel passes the Trenches, Tykki will shoot them between the eyes. Do not try stealing my worshipers from me."((Note to GM: This is the kind of thing I expect would auto-cancel my action.))
"Well nobody really solved the last one, nobody even investigated a possible suspect. Seeing as it seems to be the exact same outcome, it is either the same suspect or a copy cat. Assuming it was the same suspect as last, it would have to be the only one of us who has been shown to randomly slay mortals for no real purpose. It would have to be you, God of Lies.""Hmm...Yeah, there's one problem with that theory. I don't slay needlessly. When you were all tearing each other apart using poor mortals as your pawns and Khaziraad blew all the soldiers up, was I in the conflict? No. In fact, I opposed it. War and killing solve nothing.
"I'm not even mad that you called me a monster, I'm just pleased that I'm respected enough to be feared even by the mighty god of weapons," she says genuinely without sarcasm, "I didn't create wargs though, and these are sentient, non-sapient souls I'm eating. Never know when I might need one of them as a familiar. I probably won't do anything to your followers, though. I don't want to pick a fight with a god, much less the supremely powerful god of Weapons."
"Hmm...Yeah, there's one problem with that theory. I don't slay needlessly. When you were all tearing each other apart using poor mortals as your pawns and Khaziraad blew all the soldiers up, was I in the conflict? No. In fact, I opposed it. War and killing solve nothing.
Also, how could I have something against those little Cutebolds? Have you seen them? I pity the little creatures. I wouldn't kill them.
Also, yes. It is suspicious that this plague appears to be progressing much like the last one. Maybe we should actually start doing something about these."
"Actually, they can and do in fact, breed, eat, bleed, and die. Well, mature ones with a Human form do at any rate. I hear a half-Warhammer, half-Luminee has managed to gain quite a bit of power in some Luminee city."
"First of all, that's breaking Council rules. Secondly, I'll agree to not try to make them worshippers. My angels will merely oversee blood contracts and teach them about Soul magic. I think they'd rather like Soul magic considering what it can do for Shinjo and Cosmic magic. This way, I can get some Essence from Influence, you don't lose any followers, and the quality of life for the Armu increases."
"I did not say you did so openly. You tried to kill my followers twice, in almost exactly the same way each time. You likely caused this plague, among the other random deaths we have seen occurring. Doing something about it will do nothing if another one pops up when we finish, the kabolds are a relatively small race. More lives will be saved if we find out the cause of this before wasting essence to destroy it when it can be remade so simply.""How did I kill your followers? Is it anything like the time you had all my High-Elves with guns killed and frozen in a block of ice?
Quote"I did not say you did so openly. You tried to kill my followers twice, in almost exactly the same way each time. You likely caused this plague, among the other random deaths we have seen occurring. Doing something about it will do nothing if another one pops up when we finish, the kabolds are a relatively small race. More lives will be saved if we find out the cause of this before wasting essence to destroy it when it can be remade so simply.""How did I kill your followers? Is it anything like the time you had all my High-Elves with guns killed and frozen in a block of ice?
Yes, I know about that.
I think Ki'Tork will want to protect his(her? I'm not sure) creations."
"Oh sorry. I misspoke. I meant to say the time someone had done that. I guess I've gotten so used to calling you out on what you have done that I said "you". I know it wasn't you. It would have made no sense for it to be you.
And yes, I know none of my followers had guns. It was a futile attempt and it failed, but I knew about it. Thinking of the exact details, it was either Serac or Neron, since they were supposed to be drowned and frozen. Probably Serac. Fortunately, no one was actually hurt."
"I do not respect you. I fear what you will do to my children. You are like the madman wandering the alleyways, with blood staining his every possession. I try shielding my kids from you, getting them as far away as I can as swiftly as I can, looking at you as a pathetic and broken mess who destroys without purpose and will destroy the things I love if given the chance. You destroyed the souls of two innocent animals, to simply use them as slaves? One being your own creation? That is not a respectable act. It is a disgusting one that puts morally right people on their guard around you.""Actually, I didn't destroy their souls. They still exist within me. Before you complain, I'll just state that souls I keep within me are as comfortable and at peace as they could possibly feel. It's definitely not the worst fate a being could have and in many ways it's better than living. Their quality of life has not decreased. Besides the fate of their souls, it can be argued that I'm morally superior to those who hunt for sport. They kill for no reason other than for pure enjoyment and are entirely ambivalent of what happens to the soul. I killed the animals for a purpose, I didn't enjoy doing so, and I made sure that in recompense for taking their life I can at least make their death as pleasant and painless as possible."
"They breed, but that was an unseen but pleasant consequence. I have never observed one bleeding or eating, at least.""When a Shinjo takes Human form, they tend to do Human things like eating and moving of their own volition. There have also been instances where a Shinjo scraped their knee while playing in Human form or something."
"I was fairly clear at your creation, the "Council Rules" mean nothing to me. You might as well be waving around the ordinance of a small town. I do not like your blood contracts, blood marriages, or other blood oaths. My children should be able to trust themselves, and each other. What pathetic state our my children in, if they cannot even trust the one's they love without a contract threatening death made by a foreign god? What kind of state would the world be in, if all contracts where held under the sword? When you can not trust your neighbor, your banker, or even your spouse? Even if I did not have such a problem with it, the way you form them not only gives you power, but allows you to steal their very souls away from me! They will continue researching Soul magic on their own, finding what place it has in society without the corrupting influence of your Angels on my perfect people.'"Actually, blood contracts are not the norm, they are not expected to be the norm, and it would honestly be terrible for everyone involved - including myself - if they were. Blood contracts are meant to be taken extremely seriously and only for matters of great importance. Children cannot take blood contracts. You also seem to forget that a god of Deception exists, ironically enough."
"The thing you forget is that guns have not been invented yet.""Actually, yes they have. It seems that mortals have finally invented muskets, and they did so entirely on their own. No idea if they've invented cannons, though, and guns are still pretty rare."
Lecty, you just brought upon you hate of two whole races for temporary death of your angel. It is a black mark for you in my memory, but the action was self-punishing so I will not act on it for now."You are a god and so I wouldn't ask that you call me "Lord", but could you perhaps use my first name? I wouldn't even mind if you bastardised it in the same way as you do my surname but it sounds both aggressive and dismissive when called by your surname without a prior title.
"Perhaps me lying badly is a lie. I might be a really good liar who poses as a bad one, or perhaps I am not lying at all.
I do deny that. I did not do it. I knew that none of the followers had guns and did not try to kill them. Also, why would I write my name on an attack on your people that I have no reason to attack? That's an incredibly stupid accusation."(Sorry Stirk. I have to go for now. I'd love to continue this argument, but it's Christmas Eve and I'm going celebrate Christmas with my family.)
"Actually, I didn't destroy their souls. They still exist within me. Before you complain, I'll just state that souls I keep within me are as comfortable and at peace as they could possibly feel. It's definitely not the worst fate a being could have and in many ways it's better than living. Their quality of life has not decreased. Besides the fate of their souls, it can be argued that I'm morally superior to those who hunt for sport. They kill for no reason other than for pure enjoyment and are entirely ambivalent of what happens to the soul. I killed the animals for a purpose, I didn't enjoy doing so, and I made sure that in recompense for taking their life I can at least make their death as pleasant and painless as possible."
"Actually, blood contracts are not the norm, they are not expected to be the norm, and it would honestly be terrible for everyone involved - including myself - if they were. Blood contracts are meant to be taken extremely seriously and only for matters of great importance. Children cannot take blood contracts. You also seem to forget that a god of Deception exists, ironically enough."
"Actually, yes they have. It seems that mortals have finally invented muskets, and they did so entirely on their own. No idea if they've invented cannons, though, and guns are still pretty rare."
EDIT: @Fusil: "I will respect your request. My angels shall not enter Armu lands."
"Really? What makes you believe that? The only musket I have seen was the one used to beat Yaos to death, and that wasn't fired."
"Really? What makes you believe that? The only musket I have seen was the one used to beat Yaos to death, and that wasn't fired."
Could you elaborate on the circumstances of the time when you saw this situation?
Atropos, what were you thinking when you created creatures whose main occupation is killing by illusions? How long do you think it will be before some influential mortal decides to exterminate them all becouse they killed somone dear to them? Mages would be able to hunt them down with ease, Golems and Sepu could continue wandering the deserts and killing for eaons. Then again, mabye something so selfdestructive suits you.*giggles* All death ends in my favour, remember? :D
"They exist as what? Phantoms of what they once where? Even if they feel "comfort" or "peace", it is false feelings. It is a lie of a life. Hunting for sport, what is wrong with that? Non-sentient where made for our sentient followers to enjoy in any way they choose. Hunting for sport gives our followers an honorable past time, another use for weapons, and a useful resource that I doubt is wasted. The animal goes on to live another life in the other world, content that it had served its purpose fully. Nothing is truly harmed. You, on the other hand, broke the cycle. You destroyed what they where, simply to have another weak slave.""So instead of being used for a definitive purpose and being rewarded for very real feelings of peace and comfort, it's better to slaughter them in an endless cycle of death and pain simply because it's amusing to do so."
"Are you suggesting that, if you had been a mortal, you would not want to hunt non-sentient dragons just to say that you did?""Yes. Exactly that. It is cruel, destructive, and without purpose. Thus, it is evil. If they were being killed for a proper reason - food, safety, ingredients for a potion - then it might be justified, but killing for killing's sake is wrong. I think. Darruth, is killing for killing's sake evil, neutral, or good?"
"That is beside the point. Why would I allow such a thing in my cities? It breeds nothing but distrust, and if it is broken, then you, a foreign god, devourer my innocent follower's souls. You seem to think I want this, as evidence by you seeming to think I would be glad to have this among my followers. At its best, all it does is breed distrust. At its worst, it is permanently killing my buetiful followers for an incredibly small sin! I will never allow such a thing in any space I can control! You seem to have not noticed that I am not on good terms with said God, and am certainly not letting his Angels march around my capitol cities teaching it as they please.""I understand and I acquiesce. I'm not quite sure how it can breed distrust, though. To me it seems like it would prevent people from being distrustful. In any case, neither angels nor priests are needed for a blood contract to be written. Anyone with magic can create a blood contract for consenting, non-magical people. Priests are simply who people go to if they want to get married or have someone oversee an oath or something. Purely ceremonial."
"Really? What makes you believe that? The only musket I have seen was the one used to beat Yaos to death, and that wasn't fired.""Well unless it really was you that killed Yaos - not that I'm saying or that I believe that you did - then someone must have gotten a musket by mundane means. It's not that unlikely that they'd have been invented by now considering that explosive crossbow bolts exist."
"So instead of being used for a definitive purpose and being rewarded for very real feelings of peace and comfort, it's better to slaughter them in an endless cycle of death and pain simply because it's amusing to do so."
"Yes. Exactly that. It is cruel, destructive, and without purpose. Thus, it is evil. If they were being killed for a proper reason - food, safety, ingredients for a potion - then it might be justified, but killing for killing's sake is wrong. I think. Darruth, is killing for killing's sake evil, neutral, or good?"
"I understand and I acquiesce. I'm not quite sure how it can breed distrust, though. To me it seems like it would prevent people from being distrustful. In any case, neither angels nor priests are needed for a blood contract to be written. Anyone with magic can create a blood contract for consenting, non-magical people. Priests are simply who people go to if they want to get married or have someone oversee an oath or something. Purely ceremonial."
"Well unless it really was you that killed Yaos - not that I'm saying or that I believe that you did - then someone must have gotten a musket by mundane means. It's not that unlikely that they'd have been invented by now considering that explosive crossbow bolts exist."
I give dwarves "increased" common sense. (This'll give them DF personalities for free, right?) "To anyone who objects, please feel free to veto."
"Actually, seeing as it was a God who likely did it, it was unlikely to be found by mundane means. There is at least one Void Gunn that may have been used as well. I had a direct hand in creating the exploding bolt enchantment for my armies, they did not come up with that themselves.""Actually, the Institute of Scientific Advancement of Yaos managed to come up with their own, equally effective explosive bolt a long time ago - before the Second Crusade, even."
"Veto. Keep your hands off our races. If you wish to meddle so much, make your own.""I tried but then you started complaining anyway."
"Actually, the Institute of Scientific Advancement of Yaos managed to come up with their own, equally effective explosive bolt a long time ago - before the Second Crusade, even."
"I tried but then you started complaining anyway."
"I created them during the Stone Soldier assault, to get the necessary force to easily slaughter the soldiers. They have sense been upgraded. Far before the fight Yaos liked to call the "Second Crusade".""Was there another name for that battle? The angels only thought of it as the Second Crusade."
"When did that happen, again? I am sure if I complained, then you had a short sighted and foolish plan for mortal creation.""Never mind."
"Was there another name for that battle? The angels only thought of it as the Second Crusade."
Propose that anyone who doesn't vote on Lawmode or on a proposal surrenders 1 Essence to the Council to be used for any Council projects.
Propose that anyone who doesn't vote on Lawmode or on a proposal surrenders 1 Essence to the Council to be used for any Council projects.
Propose that anyone who doesn't vote on Lawmode or on a proposal surrenders 1 Essence to the Council to be used for any Council projects.I oppose this terrible idea. If they are neutral, they are neutral. Do not penalize them for it.
"Perhaps me lying badly is a lie. I might be a really good liar who poses as a bad one, or perhaps I am not lying at all.
I do deny that. I did not do it. I knew that none of the followers had guns and did not try to kill them. Also, why would I write my name on an attack on your people that I have no reason to attack? That's an incredibly stupid accusation."(Sorry Stirk. I have to go for now. I'd love to continue this argument, but it's Christmas Eve and I'm going celebrate Christmas with my family.)
"MUAHAHAHAHAHA! This ghost's bones will make for a fine bolt!"A ghost bone bolt? A ghost bone? I'd be very interested to see the results.
"I want to make something that removes people's souls and burns them like coke. I think you're the right god for this. I MUST HAVE ROCK BLOCKS!"
"Is it true that magma is the blood of the earth?"
"Does it really need a name? It was a rather pathetic battle. Tykki fought off the Archangels, the mortals shot each other a bit, and everything exploded. "Battle of the Boom"? It wasn't a crusade, naming it such is rather bizarre, and I have no clue what in the world a first crusade would be.""Battle of the Boom does sound better. The angels referred to it as a crusade because it was a whole bunch of gods uniting against a common enemy. The first crusade referred to when Cim, Serac, and Yaos united against you."
"Oppose. No need to make the council do anything, and that kind of hurts the less active gods needlessly.""Not really. Proposals resolve only after three Ticks which is also how long it would take for a god to go inactive."
Oppose.Also, I don't care about you trying to get some Gruen worship but two conditions. I don't want your agents in the capital where the Devourer lives and I don't want you turning them away from following me.*sigh* "Deal. Is this kind of thing normal or is it just you two, though? Wait a minute, do you two even have the authority to ban my worship in these cities?"
"If they are neutral they can choose to Abstain. This proposal doesn't penalise neutrality - it penalises laziness and apathy. Regardless, I can see it's not going to get much support."QuotePropose that anyone who doesn't vote on Lawmode or on a proposal surrenders 1 Essence to the Council to be used for any Council projects.I oppose this terrible idea. If they are neutral, they are neutral. Do not penalize them for it.
"If they are neutral they can choose to Abstain. This proposal doesn't penalise neutrality - it penalises laziness and apathy. Regardless, I can see it's not going to get much support.""To be fair, you wouldn't ask someone to come out and say "I'm neutral!" On every issue they hear and are neutral about.
"Battle of the Boom does sound better. The angels referred to it as a crusade because it was a whole bunch of gods uniting against a common enemy. The first crusade referred to when Cim, Serac, and Yaos united against you."
*sigh* "Deal. Is this kind of thing normal or is it just you two, though? Wait a minute, do you two even have the authority to ban my worship in these cities?"
"Could we perhaps vote on dealing with the Lich at least?"
Quote"If they are neutral they can choose to Abstain. This proposal doesn't penalise neutrality - it penalises laziness and apathy. Regardless, I can see it's not going to get much support.""To be fair, you wouldn't ask someone to come out and say "I'm neutral!" On every issue they hear and are neutral about.
"Fusil, many truths contradict each other. Weapons are made to kill people, but weapons don't kill people. Also, I knew you're followers didn't have guns because I saw them in the Second Crusade. I was watching, remember? If your followers had guns, why would they use swords, glaives, hammers, axes, halberds, etc.? Also, when I said "All my followers with guns were killed," it's the same as saying, "none of my followers were killed," because we all know none of them had guns, so none were killed. It's just different ways of saying the same thing.
"How did I kill your followers? Is it anything like the time you had all my High-Elves with guns killed and frozen in a block of ice?
Yes, I know about that."
"You are a God. The Lich is a particularly magical mortal servant to an unkown god. If you do not like her, kill her yourself. What has this world come to if it takes an entire council of Gods to beat one mortal?""A couple of problems with that. Your archangel has already killed her several times and I assume she did so with her sword of permakilling yet the Lich still lives. Another problem is that I simply don't know where she is which prevents me from finding her, killing her, and eating her soul (even if she has one). If we kill her by proposal then she will definitely die in the way we want her to and there would be no way for her to escape or return, unlike Yaos who was permakilled by a non-Council entity."
Quite sure many gods are protective over their followers and essence income. I don't particularly feel like having to worry about you trying to turn away loyal followers exclusively to your worship but I don't see much harm in some of my followers also paying respects to you if it doesn't hurt me. Regarding your targeting of the capital, I've had a few issues with attacks on my angels and I don't want to have potential security breaches where my archangel dwells. Regardless of your intentions it seems like an unnecessary risk to have agents of other gods near the Devourer's fortress."I don't want exclusive worship - I just want worship. Considering that your reasons for not allowing me into your city a very real and understandable, I won't hold anything against you for your decision."
The Lich you want dead was last seen kniting. Even if it slaps me to death with a sock of doom, I can't realy feel threatened by that."Wait, what? Knitting? I was under the impression she was turning people away from worshipping us and occasionally pausing to slaughter our angels. Obviously, my sources of information aren't very reliable. I guess I can relax now."
Night Elves previously demonstrating interest in assorted features of Soul or Blood magic have appeared in front of their homes with no memories of being visited by the angels or the few days before.Luckily, my angel priests are still in those cities telling people about Soul and Blood magic. They'll probably get re-interested again once they hear about it again. I would also like to restate that all my angels continue to be on high alert.
The ghost bone bolt could not be created because ghosts don't have bones. However, a perfectly healthy random dwarf proved to be sufficient.I'm sure the local law enforcement will punish the dwarf in an appropriate fashion. It's certainly outside of my jurisdiction.
"Bah! Lies! Everyone knows souls and coke don't explode! I MUST HAVE ROCK BLOCKS!"
"Does that mean you can make all the magma rush to the surface of the world in a grand display of Ultimate Bleeding?"
Most Gruen capitals seem to treat Grauel as a mostly uninvolved benevolent force. Quite a few of their leaders are followers of Grauel but have no history of receiving orders from Grauel. The Armu are only slightly less independent and typically treat Fusil as a powerful military advisor to consult where and when necessary.I ask the Armu if they approve of their god's actions of banning me from spreading my religion to their cities for selfish reasons, especially since my religion offers to improve their lives so greatly and that I don't ask for exclusive worship or even primary worship. I would also ask them if they would hypothetically be ok with Fusil thinking of them as children who need to be babied rather than fully sapient, independent, and free-willed adult. Not that he does, of course. He's simply being benevolent and protective of a race who he created and loves and who loves him back. Nothing wrong with that.
The dust ring seems to have become more alive and dusty.Alive? Does that mean it has a soul?
Malakath has created 701 Nature Spirits, of which 300 are sent to each of Keshan and Slytha and 100 are sent to Muna. The last one has become aligned to the natural feature of lowercase-v void.Actually, that "last" one was actually the one Nature Spirit that I created rather than propagated. I made it a lake spirit. Possibly female. Possibly the only spirit in that lake. Still, it's fantastic to know that Nature Spirits can exist in space!
Alive and dusty? What in the... Are rocks there coming to life or something?Coming to life? Maybe a little bit! ;)
Malakath: While people continue to take interest in your message again, those same people continue to reappear with no memory of the events. This is probably not good for their long-term mental health.The government is informed about what's going on, naming either Fusil or Khaziraad as the likely culprits. The affected will be given Psymental therapy paid for but not conducted by the Soul Church.
"You should check your formula because souls really don't explode. Else we'd get a lot more gold. I MUST HAVE CUT GEMS!"Ignore. Silly mortal. Telling the goddess of Souls what souls can and can't do.
"Is it truly evil to have all the surface-dwellers behold the glory of magma?"
The space spirit in the Keshan system violently clashes with the existing space spirit until only one of them is left alive. It appears they consider all of space to be a single thing to inhabit.Neither aspect of this event makes sense. The first is that I've explicitly stated twice now that I made no space spirit. The 701st spirit was actually the first spirit and it was a lake spirit. Secondly, Spirits get along well with Spirits from outside their feature or even feature type. Spirits from the same feature are considered somewhere between roommates and family. Thirdly, the amount of Spirits that can inhabit a feature is determined by the size of the feature. Even a mere forest would have a few dozens Spirits, let alone the entirety of space. When a feature reaches capacity, it just means it won't give birth to any more Spirits on its own and that blank spirits won't move there of their own volition. It's not an issue that would end with violence or disputes.
Are you sure you want to create beings tied to the well-being of the stars? (CoC §1: Potential megadeath+)I'm not sure what 'CoC §1' means but they certainly wouldn't be able to cause a megadeath. Even if a star reached capacity and they all focused on one spell, the worst they could do is cause a solar flare that would wreck all electronics on Keshan/Slytha or maybe just cause a heat wave for a day. Stars are extremely far away from their planets. Moreover, Spirits would have no reason to be violent unless the danger of their home being destroyed was very real and very immediate.
"Oaths are meant only to be taken at the highest levels of responsibility. A vassal's oath of allegiance to his king and his king's oath of protection for the vassal, for example. Alternatively, a prisoner facing capital punishment might instead choose to take an oath to never break the law again and to instead do good by serving a higher purpose. Blood oaths aren't expressions of trust and loyalty - it's merely a tool to ensure it."
"Blood marriages are more like a trade than an expression of trust. Well, it's still a marriage so it's still an expression of trust but....you know what I mean.
"The first and second category provide tangible, subjective effects that the couple might want to take. It has nothing to do with trust, it's just two sets of life options that they may or may not want to take and incorporate into their regular marriage.
"First off, you two are entirely right that a category-3.1 marriage only serves to erode trust. I'll have to think about it and possibly remove it. However, agreeing to a category-3.2 marriage isn't necessarily an expression of distrust. If the couple wants access to the Human Plane but don't want the effects or to pay the price of the first two categories, they can just take the category-3.2 marriage which only annuls it if one partner is unfaithful. Since that's the most likely scenario in the case of an unfaithful partner anyway, the only reason a couple would take it is to get into Heaven."
"Battle-sibling blood bonds are, like marriages, a kind of trade where benefits are provided in exchange for simply partaking in the bond. Like oaths, though, it's also rather important and rather necessary. The worst thing for a soldier isn't to be cut down by an enemy - it's to be cut down by your supposed comrade-in-arms. If you go into battle without being entirely sure your comrade isn't going to turn on you you'll automatically be at a disadvantage. Life-and-death battles are serious business. In that case, trust shouldn't be given on what pretty much amounts to a gentleman's agreement."
NUKE researcher: "We have finally discovered a sufficiently inexpensive method of producing stones that absorb the blasted heat, however slowly!""Wonderful, continue the good work!"
Rani Traveler: "Why is there so much pink ice here?"
NUKE researcher: "We would like your advice on a certain undisclosed project."
"You will explain what you are doing Malakath or I will destroy you and your pesky spies."
The Gruen seem to be doing fairly well. There is much interest in producing a library of sorts of which foods produce which effects both in progeny and in eaters.
"I wish to become a Lord of Hunger someday."
"When will you come down for another feast?"
"Is it true that the Devourer is made of wood?"
"What can we do to serve you?""Spread my teachings, but respect other God's followers. Do not steal then away, but enlighten them to my teachings alongside theirs.
"Where have the High Elves gone?"
"I wish for the ability to bluff anyone and everyone."
Rani Traveler: "It smells like those hot-land giant fruits of water.""Odd, is it near any town or populated area?"
"You will explain what you are doing Malakath or I will destroy you and your pesky spies.""Not me, technically. One of my Controller angels sent a spy to NUKE to see what you were doing there. It chose to do this independently and I have since told all my angels not to do anything that would antagonise other gods. Sorry for the incident."
On a completely unrelated note, WHO TOOK THE ORB? Specifically, the life orb that I created a very long time ago."Again, apologies. It seems some of the Nature Spirits I created decided it would be a nice gift to give to me for creating them."
Kli has been unsealed!Seal Kli and have him guarded in the Heaven Plane. Grant the other gods' permission to view - but not interact with - Kli.
Seal Kli and have him guarded in the Heaven Plane. Grant the other gods' permission to view - but not interact with - Kli.
Bluff Buff: "Are there evil bluffs? I wish to be able to bluff anyone successfully.""By "evil bluff," I mean a bluff that will unnecessarily hurt someone or do something bad. For example, I'm a peasant farmer in the Human Empire, or at least what remains of it. Someone tries to rob me, but I take out a knife and tell him I won't hurt him if he turns around and leaves. When he turns around, I stab him in the back. If you lie to safe yourself or someone else, that is good and will be permitted. I trust you, and so you shall recieve your request."
CoC §1: Code of Conduct section 1 (GINYF for the section sign, I admit). Solar flares aren't the concern; what may happen if a nature spirit inside a star dies? Humans at least seem to experience near-death experiences that often seem similar to the effects of hallucinogens, so what would happen if a bunch of them inadvertently use magic while dying?(Ah. I think of it as Anath's Code of Conduct. What's GINYF? I'm actually not sure what would happen if they use magic while dying. Maybe throw an extra fireball or something?)
"You seem to have a problem with 'discipline', seeing as your followers just happen to think antagonizing other Gods is a good idea. As their leader, I am sure you know who gets punished for discipline problems?""It was just an unfortunate Tick. Leave it alone. As a leader, I am sure who gets punished for discipline problems. I have decided to give them a warning. Punishment will be more severe if repeat incidents occur, at least in terms of the Controller. The Spirits were simply misguided and honestly, it was a sweet gesture. Still, they won't do something like that again."
"It was just an unfortunate Tick. Leave it alone. As a leader, I am sure who gets punished for discipline problems. I have decided to give them a warning. Punishment will be more severe if repeat incidents occur, at least in terms of the Controller. The Spirits were simply misguided and honestly, it was a sweet gesture. Still, they won't do something like that again."
Grants wish. (S)he can now successfully bluff to anyone about anything.VETO. "Doing that has a chance of breaking the universe, because for a bluff to be always successful, it needs to warp reality accordingly. It is definitely not a good idea to give such power to a mortal without very careful consideration. (And likely not even possible.)"
"I was suggesting that the leader is the one to be punished for discipline problems such as this. As a leader, do you know who that is? As you answered my last question incorrectly, I will be more blunt. I am saying that you are at fault, as the leader.""It's nice to see you've swung your opinion to the right side of the matter, or is this just more of your hypocrisy?"
VETO. "Doing that has a chance of breaking the universe, because for a bluff to be always successful, it needs to warp reality accordingly. It is definitely not a good idea to give such power to a mortal without very careful consideration. (And likely not even possible.)"
"It's nice to see you've swung your opinion to the right side of the matter, or is this just more of your hypocrisy?"
"I suppose I will show an example, one much more harmless than your own.""I don't even need to veto or act. Know that this won't happen. Don't think I haven't made any preparations."
I find a worshiper of Cim (or, failing that, a Void Cultists) and give him a dream. In the dream, Cim appears before them. He has a bizarre mustache on, and explains that this is his true form. He stats to this worshiper that all of his statues and paintings of Cim got his form wrong, and this must be corrected immediately. Dream!Cim then orders the follower to take up a pen and remedy this situation by drawing mustaches on all the statues, paintings, and other works of art featuring Cim. He promises rewards if this is done.
Seven angelic figures stand before the Council. Their names are Pat, Tom, Rita, Ben, Tria, Mil, and Cassie, and they explain that they are personifications of the Virtues of Patience, Temperance, Charity, Kindness, Diligence, Humility, and Chastity. They also explain that gods exhibiting their virtues will be rewarded."I request a reward for my efforts into observing the seven virtues. I have been working very hard since my birth to expand the world around me by introducing new races, magic, and ideas in the relatively short time I've been here, thus showing diligence. That I haven't fallen beneath ten Essence while doing so (I think) and that I still manage to have a high Essence count after it all shows that I am also temperate.
"The food at my restaurant suddenly turned into old shoes! Should I tell them it is an exotic aged steak from Gruen lands?"
"How can I best serve you, Kl'Tork?"" You must do all that you can to satisfy others, And stop those who desire more than what is rightfully theirs to keep, Now go forth and Satisfy."
"I need a spice both sweet and bitter. Do you have any suggestions?""Two words, Sugared Lemons, It'll work trust me."
"Should we work on containment of our creations more? Some of them may be best in strict captivity."With anything particularly dangerous, I'd say that, yes, you should at least try to keep them away from places they could cause trouble.
"Come visit our beautiful glowing fungal gardens!"Sure, I'll come!
Ikan elder: "The Void seems to have encroached from the deep denizens recently. What is happening?"That... depends. Chances are, it's just something different from what you deem normal and not actually of the Void. It's always safe to check, though, so...
That... depends. Chances are, it's just something different from what you deem normal and not actually of the Void. It's always safe to check, though, so...
Anyone have a Void detector I can borrow for a bit?
Anyone have a Void detector I can borrow for a bit?"Joha. You made the race that invented Void detectors. Just ask one from them."
"I never sent a spy to ISAY Malakath. Do you have any idea whose spy it is?"I have no idea whose spy it is. Also, they're not my spies."
Also, I can`t release your spies they have seen to much.
Kli:"Congratulations. Find miracles from your work."
"The scales have been completed!"
"Should we eat those strange Void beasts?"
"There is a rock balanced on its tip on top of a hill near us. Should we do something about it?"
Propagate Cherubim to 7,000
Work with a highly skilled/devoted group of Cosmic Seraphim mages and Cherubim Enchanters to create the first Sentinels; I don't want anyone burning out, so slow and steady is the key here. Then, help them and a larger group of Cherubim Enchanters, armorsmiths, and other mages, anyone who wishes to help and likes getting paid for it with a magical bodyguard/laborer, possibly multiple depending on how much of a contribution they/their company made, work to make several thousand Sentinels of varying sizes and shapes. ((Note: Because they are magical suits of armor, they will usually look like an animal of some sort, or rather a full suit of armor for said animal, possibly scaled up or scaled down, and sometimes like an insect because carapaces make easy 'molds' for armor
Work with Cim and some of the best Seraphim Cosmic/Divine Mages/Priests and whoever Cim wants to add to it to make the first Justiciars, being nine in number. Prophet-like powers and great strength and skill with both magic and arms, they are each bestowed with a unique power of their choosing(so long as it isn't stupid; toggle-able anti-magic tattoos are a yes, the ability to shoot bunnies from your hands is a no; it's also only partially magical in origin, so anti-magic won't usually completely negate it), and given suits of the first Faultless armor, which they can customize, both by mundane and magical means, to suit their purposes. They are to work independently of us, more or less, and so those selected for the process(out of volunteers/they have to agree) must be capable of independent thought, creative, driven, and able to dedicate their lives to spreading Goodness and Law. Together, those two concepts form Justice. Powers particularly include voice/persuasion/empathic powers, memorization/total-recall/speed-reading, and similar things that aid in being essentially traveling judges, law enforcers, adventurers, and protectors of the people. Powers also particularly include the ability to gain strength as time goes on, by making allies and overcoming the challenges that beset them, as well as magic powers(in case it wasn't clear: Think RPG-style. They gain experience, they level up. Whether by a thin stream of divine power that we strengthen by using feedback loops from their allies and the triumphant sensations of their emotional state and by draining the last remnants of life of their enemies when they die, or if it's just an internal thing inside of them that does much the same, still more or less the same result). They have the authority to gain companions of their own and to make decisions as they feel necessary, but they are independent; we cannot fund them. However, they do have a Phylactery, which will teleport them to it's location, wounds barely stabilized (enough for medical care/healing to help them get better, not so much that they're able to just go home and sleep it off) if they receive a mortal blow. The Phylactery is unique to the individual, but they are all more or less invincible and should be based in different, well-defended cities. They also cannot be stolen...
Anything to add, Cim?
Oh, and if you could cover around 3/4 of the Justicar's cost, that'd be great, since you have so much more Essence than me and all...eheheheh...Please?
Oh, and if you could cover around 3/4 of the Justicar's cost, that'd be great, since you have so much more Essence than me and all...eheheheh...Please?"Make that 7/8. And Fusil is right, pulling mortal magic-users into this is a Bad Idea, for a multitude of reasons. For traits, I would recommend protection from corrupting Void energy, and to choose the Justiciars from different races far away from each other."
"Greetings Melyssa, as a goddess of torture I`m afraid I must ask that you and your children must stay away from my followers or feel the bite of cold.""Don't take this questions as an act of antagonisation but don't you and your followers already feel the bite of cold? Isn't that what your whole sphere revolves around? In completely unrelated news (seriously), some private negotiations have made it so those spies you have with you actually are my spies now. I'll understand if you want to keep them but I'd like the spy I gave to you to be returned, please."
"Temperate, says the god of Blood!? I think Fusil makes for a nice Patient one, then?""How does my sphere prevent me from being temperate? Wait, do you think that I'm the type of blood god that appreciates their followers making a gory mess of themselves? I'd be offended if you did. As for Fusil, patient is not a word I would use to describe him. Perhaps us other gods might be considered patient for putting up with him?" The Lord Lecta smiles at her little joke.
How much Essence would it cost to destroy the Void books that Yaos stashed on a moon when the Inquisition failed to destroy them?
(So it was Yaos who destroyed all the books on the Void? We renewed them, ya know.)(Different set of books here but you can pay 1E to know if he was the one who took the library books. I'll even throw in why he did it, assuming he did.)
(So it was Yaos who destroyed all the books on the Void? We renewed them, ya know.)(Different set of books here but you can pay 1E to know if he was the one who took the library books. I'll even throw in why he did it, assuming he did.)
"By bite of cold, I meant an actual bite, as in I will bite you if you touch my followers. Why do you want this spy if it is not even your spy?""Greetings Melyssa, as a goddess of torture I`m afraid I must ask that you and your children must stay away from my followers or feel the bite of cold.""Don't take this questions as an act of antagonisation but don't you and your followers already feel the bite of cold? Isn't that what your whole sphere revolves around? In completely unrelated news (seriously), some private negotiations have made it so those spies you have with you actually are my spies now. I'll understand if you want to keep them but I'd like the spy I gave to you to be returned, please."
"Recent negotiations have put me in charge of ISAY. I'm thinking about renaming it, actually, or maybe I'll let them keep the name. In any case, I want to know what this spy has learned of my new acquisition and who sent them. Even more is that I only sent them to you because I thought the spy belonged to you and thus you have no right to it in the first place.""By bite of cold, I meant an actual bite, as in I will bite you if you touch my followers. Why do you want this spy if it is not even your spy?""Greetings Melyssa, as a goddess of torture I`m afraid I must ask that you and your children must stay away from my followers or feel the bite of cold.""Don't take this questions as an act of antagonisation but don't you and your followers already feel the bite of cold? Isn't that what your whole sphere revolves around? In completely unrelated news (seriously), some private negotiations have made it so those spies you have with you actually are my spies now. I'll understand if you want to keep them but I'd like the spy I gave to you to be returned, please."
Kli:"Perhaps it does, but corruption does take hold of the mind. Your sense of reason may fail you, even with only the slightest tinge of corruption, letting you become corrupted further. If you are to try, you need to make sure you have the proper safety precautions in place."
"But surely corruption balances its absence?"
"You can have him after I am done with him.""Recent negotiations have put me in charge of ISAY. I'm thinking about renaming it, actually, or maybe I'll let them keep the name. In any case, I want to know what this spy has learned of my new acquisition and who sent them. Even more is that I only sent them to you because I thought the spy belonged to you and thus you have no right to it in the first place.""By bite of cold, I meant an actual bite, as in I will bite you if you touch my followers. Why do you want this spy if it is not even your spy?""Greetings Melyssa, as a goddess of torture I`m afraid I must ask that you and your children must stay away from my followers or feel the bite of cold.""Don't take this questions as an act of antagonisation but don't you and your followers already feel the bite of cold? Isn't that what your whole sphere revolves around? In completely unrelated news (seriously), some private negotiations have made it so those spies you have with you actually are my spies now. I'll understand if you want to keep them but I'd like the spy I gave to you to be returned, please."
"You can have him after I am done with him.""You seem to mistake my demand for a request. I want the spy and you will give it to me. NOW. You have no right to it and I will not hesitate to take what is rightfully mine." The shadows around Malakath have begun moving, darkening.
"I do not take threats lightly young goddess of flesh. The spy will stay under my control.""You can have him after I am done with him.""You seem to mistake my demand for a request. I want the spy and you will give it to me. NOW. You have no right to it and I will not hesitate to take what is rightfully mine." The shadows around Malakath have begun moving, darkening.
"I told you it was obvious she sent the spy. She probably sent the thief too, among other things we had yet to see.""I'm upset because Neron chose to be dishonest by keeping something that isn't his and that thing just so happens to belong to me now. Notice how I'm not asking for the spies you claim I sent? If they were mine I'd want them back to see what Neron has going on in NUKE, but that would be dishonest."
Make it so that all roads between cities and major comunity hubs would become like Roman roads (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=132898.0) and would be enchanted to remain indefinetly in prime condition.(You want the roads to be like a game of Competitive Dwarf Fortress?)
Kli:
"That is interesting and not very reassuring."
"What was that strange announcement about evil and Void?"
"Are there any truly evil? How meaningless anything is when the wise are simply reborn on a similar world!"
"The School of Balance here has expanded to the non-balanced arts. What may we do about this?"
"You are a goddess of Blood. Unless you expel or produce blood or are a detached goddess, you probably drink it. Immoderately.""I drink blood about as much as Fusil eats weapons, which is to say I don't and I never have. I have not expelled any blood because I have not been wounded and I produce blood the same as any other mortal being."
"The Llluminants have this message for you, Shadowed One:"And if they break mortal laws? If they murder? Would they not remain "innocent" afterwards?"
'do not touch our children innocent they are and more precious are they to us than a mullltitude of gods for every one of ours you harm one of yours we will harm proportionallly past present or future'
I willl be here for this tick to mediate between you and the Llluminants. May you be blessed with the Eye of the Bridgemaker."
Malakath has allowed for those joining ISAY to be paid.Before I forget, all the scientists that have already joined are paid for having joined. Wouldn't be fair otherwise.
Fusil has laid out a new branch of magic known as thaumetallurgy based around the control of metal."Thaumetallurgy already existed as Elemental metal magic for the most part. The one difference I can see is that by adding in Universal magic - rarely used except as a general bonus, so I must applaud you - to tie in what appears to be Soul, Enchantment, Ritual, and Divine magic to more easily manipulate non-combat applications of metal magic. Still, the practical applications of metal magic seem to have expanded by quite a bit by such a relatively small theoretical addition. A+"
A massive plague has broken out among the Gruen and has killed off an unexpectedly massive number of them. The highest authorities have passed a plan to reduce population growth and exotic feedings until the cause of the plague can be determined."This is getting annoying. Based on the pattern I'm seeing, it seems like someone's against the idea of gods having favoured races. First Yaos, then Kl'Tork, and now Grauel. If I were a god of Greed, I'd probably bet to see who the next race would be."
An immense but immaterial Void projection, spherical in shape and covered with expanding and bursting glowing bubbles, has appeared two days after Malakath's proclamation to those on Keshan (and strangely enough, not on Slytha).
"The Llluminants have this message for you, Shadowed One:
'do not touch our children innocent they are and more precious are they to us than a mullltitude of gods for every one of ours you harm one of yours we will harm proportionallly past present or future'
I willl be here for this tick to mediate between you and the Llluminants. May you be blessed with the Eye of the Bridgemaker."
"Fusil, I wouldn't recommend alienating the Luminants. They have poor relations, if not an outright war, with the Umbrals, who I suspect to have been behind at least some of our problems. A mêlée à trois is not in our best interests, I would say. We should try to stay at least neutral toward them."
Personaly, I too would prefer if you stoped blind rage until you learned enough of them to diferentiate between decoys and actual enemies, Fusil. Let them talk, it is up to you to put any ammount of trust in their words. See if you can use what they say against them. Find what they lie abaut and what they try to hide. Even should you fail to find a tactical advantage, you may be able to convince others of your righteousnes.
So learn abaut them, their goals and their means. Then, cut down the problem at it's roots. Right now, we have no idea how to deal with the overall Void influence problem. Beides, if we manage to get a faction of Void to fight another faction, their power will deplete and their presence here will decrease.
And why the hell are you oposing 75.01?
"What are you doing?! He is not your puppet!"Quote"The Llluminants have this message for you, Shadowed One:
'do not touch our children innocent they are and more precious are they to us than a mullltitude of gods for every one of ours you harm one of yours we will harm proportionallly past present or future'
I willl be here for this tick to mediate between you and the Llluminants. May you be blessed with the Eye of the Bridgemaker."
I find the guy who can bluff anything and hands him a metaphorical megaphone and a physical note reading:
"For every one of my precious followers you harm, I will harm your exponentially! To the power of a billion! We have already found a way to easily destroy all of the Void! In fact, we have done so so long ago that creation is just catching up. You are already dead. And you can't even try to harm us, because you are dead and dead people can't act.
Signed Fusil, dictated but not read."
(Worth a try, right?)
"What are you doing?! He is not your puppet!"
"And you wonder why everyone hates you."Quote"What are you doing?! He is not your puppet!"
"Everyone is my puppet."
Quote"What are you doing?! He is not your puppet!"
"Everyone is my puppet."
"And you wonder why everyone hates you."
So you purposefully make people kill your own followers, then?
Whatever killed the megabeasts took the bodies, as well, though I know not who. I may be able to determine it with some effort, though.
Void Activity has massively increased, even amongst those previously associated with it.
Combined with all the Void things showing up in the Council Chambers...well, I can't say I'm not suspicious.
Spend 2 Essence; Find Palatino. If I'm opposed, spend another to figure out who's opposing me, because that would make them either the culprit or Fusil/Quéßäre intentionally fucking with me.
((At this point? I could care less. It's difficult to oppose someone doing something specifically if you oppose them, because it's like stepping on a trip wire farther down one side. It still causes the trap to go off.))
While I could continue to argue about your idea of everyone being puppets and the hypocrisy of you being insulted by things yet feeling free to do the same to quite literally everyone else, we both know what the other would say, and we both know what the other one thinks about it.
So let's move on to the part where I, for once, agree with you. Regardless of whether the Void has Good applications, such a massive summoning ceremony is certainly neither Good nor safe for either God or mortal. A concentration of Good such as that...Well, I suppose now is a good a time as any.
(Just thought I would give you a friendly reminder ::) (http://viewrz.com/video/you-really-are))((See, I was gonna say thanks for trying to be friendly, and apologize for snapping at you, since I'm just in a bad mood right now for unrelated reasons and reacted unfairly, but then you go and link to a video on repeat calling me stupid. What did you think that would accomplish, besides being rude?))
"And yet you feel you should insult (http://viewrz.com/video/you-really-are) me again, certainly that builds toward your goals. I seem to remember one of those Angels representing "pettiness", correct? It was simply a response to his quip. I do not outwardly believe that all of creation are puppets to me. "Honestly, Fusil, I have no idea what you will or will not consider an insult. From where I stand, it seems entirely arbitrary. So I don't really bother with trying to avoid it anymore; at least as far as I am aware, an accusation, observation, or statement is only insulting if it is intentional, close to home, and said by an equal. Which is why I don't feel insulted when a Mortal or Angel(I'm referring to Yaos' angels right now, by the way, though you probably knew that) is 'insulting'. In any case, that's certainly a relief. There is a certain proposed law(in the 'laws of physics' sense of the word) named after a mortal, whose name I cannot remember, but it goes along the lines of 'the parody of an extremist position is indistinguishable from an actual extremist position.' So I couldn't be entirely sure.
"And what do you hope to do with this Janitor, clean the corpses of the fallen as the summoned demon prances its way across our world? We need a much more concrete effort."It is a start, which seems to be more than you are currently doing at the very least(and before you grow inordinately offended, keep in mind that it is true for the moment and all you must do to rectify that is begin something of your own that I can see, for obviously if you did it in secret I wouldn't know you'd done it. *sighs*), and moreover, we both know how long the Council takes in order to take action. That said, I might as well begin the proposal in the hopes that maybe they'll miraculously do something inside of a tick. Can't harm anything, at least...
((See, I was gonna say thanks for trying to be friendly, and apologize for snapping at you, since I'm just in a bad mood right now for unrelated reasons and reacted unfairly, but then you go and link to a video on repeat calling me stupid. What did you think that would accomplish, besides being rude?))
Honestly, Fusil, I have no idea what you will or will not consider an insult. From where I stand, it seems entirely arbitrary. So I don't really bother with trying to avoid it anymore; at least as far as I am aware, an accusation, observation, or statement is only insulting if it is intentional, close to home, and said by an equal. Which is why I don't feel insulted when a Mortal or Angel(I'm referring to Yaos' angels right now, by the way, though you probably knew that) is 'insulting'. In any case, that's certainly a relief. There is a certain proposed law(in the 'laws of physics' sense of the word) named after a mortal, whose name I cannot remember, but it goes along the lines of 'the parody of an extremist position is indistinguishable from an actual extremist position.' So I couldn't be entirely sure.
It is a start, which seems to be more than you are currently doing at the very least(and before you grow inordinately offended, keep in mind that it is true for the moment and all you must do to rectify that is begin something of your own that I can see, for obviously if you did it in secret I wouldn't know you'd done it. *sighs*), and moreover, we both know how long the Council takes in order to take action. That said, I might as well begin the proposal in the hopes that maybe they'll miraculously do something inside of a tick. Can't harm anything, at least...
And again, I must ask; if you insult others so freely, why do you expect them to do anything else to you? Contempt breeds resentment, not obedience.
Propose we deal with the Summoning and/or other new Void Activity in a way that keeps the influence from spreading
There is a certain proposed law(in the 'laws of physics' sense of the word) named after a mortal, whose name I cannot remember, but it goes along the lines of 'the parody of an extremist position is indistinguishable from an actual extremist position.' So I couldn't be entirely sure.Poe's Law.
Propose we deal with the Summoning and/or other new Void Activity in a way that keeps the influence from spreading"Making a proposal as vague as this is useless and a total waste of time. Abstain. Let's think of an actual plan to deal with the Void instead of simply saying that we will, somehow. Also, Azem still needs to be tried for his economy stuff so I propose that he unmakes the Gruen plague."
"Speaking of arbitrary, you seem to arbitrarily make up meanings to words. Has anyone ever used the term "insult" in the way you choose to, yet alone what you seem to think "Goodness" is. And yet, you claim I am the arrogant one as you state how more important you are compared to Angels and Mortals, setting yourself so far above them that their insults don't touch your ears? The rest of your sentence must have come from some form of head trauma, as I cannot make it out rationally what you are attempting to say.""I have to agree with Fusil here, on both counts. An insult is an insult no matter what issuing person's station. Also, to think that mortals are that far beneath us is demeaning to them. I don't agree on his assessment of the state of your mental and physical health, though."
"Seeing as you seem to insult me just as freely, couldn't I ask you the same?"I imagine he said this as a girl. His new primary form is a female between the ages of 13 and 26. It is cannon.
I imagine he said this as a girl. His new primary form is a female between the ages of 13 and 26. It is cannon.
(Bishoujo Fusil? I thought that was Tykki's job!)(I imagine Tykki as an obese woman with a gun. Remember how you were all discussing her name way back when? That's canon.)
(I imagine Tykki as an obese woman with a gun. Remember how you were all discussing her name way back when? That's canon.)
"Fusil, let me humor you and consider your way of dealing with the Void and the Null. The question is, how do you intend to defeat them? You have already told how you intend to fight them, but we are at a disadvantage and don't have the resources for too great an eternal war."
"the Void have no power in this bubble that we do not give them. If we do not give them power, or we defeat the Gods who do, then they are harmless to us.""False. They can't gain Essence without cultists, but Void Energy comes from the Bubble's mere existence. They have power here (just not of creation), whether we want it or not, unless we get extremely creative."
"False. They can't gain Essence without cultists, but Void Energy comes from the Bubble's mere existence. They have power here (just not of creation), whether we want it or not, unless we get extremely creative."
(The real question is, how do YOU remember? That was before you where born, by a long time...)(You don't honestly think I would jump into a thread without reading all the previous posts, do you? Besides, it wasn't that long of a time before I was born.)
"I'm saying the Bubble's static existence in the ever-changing churn is a huge spot of entropy, generating Void Energy usable to any Null who happens to be in the radiation's way.""How could you have kept this information from us!? If it's the Bubbles static existence that powers the Void, then all we need to do is change it from a static existence to a dynamic one. How we go about doing that, I don't know, but it's a decent end goal if anything."
"Void Energy is a real power, one of entropy, change, destruction and/or corruption, in contrast to the power of creation given by Essence. Is Essence a threat on its own? No, I'm not saying that Void energy is dangerous (though it might be, I've avoided contact as much as possible). I'm saying the Bubble's static existence in the ever-changing churn is a huge spot of entropy, generating Void Energy usable to any Null who happens to be in the radiation's way. Thus, a war would be as eternal as this Bubble is."
(You don't honestly think I would jump into a thread without reading all the previous posts, do you? Besides, it wasn't that long of a time before I was born.)
"How could you have kept this information from us!? If it's the Bubbles static existence that powers the Void, then all we need to do is change it from a static existence to a dynamic one. How we go about doing that, I don't know, but it's a decent end goal if anything."
Propose a barrier to prevent communication outside the Bubble. Of course, we don't have enough power to stop the Nulls from communicating inwards, but what we can do is prevent all Bubble-dwellers from communicating with anything that goes beyond the barrier. At the very least, it should stop gods and other beings from asking for Void deals.Why would you want to do that?
Propose that we remove all Void texts, monuments, temples, and whatever other Void stuff was built by gods. If this proposal passes, ALL gods must contribute to the proposal to prevent the things from not being destroyed like how only Serac could destroy the temple he built to the Void.
Even if every Null in existence rushes our bubble, it will not matter so long as we do not leave the door open for them. What do you fear will assault us?"
The bubbles were completely destroyed when the Null forced them to move.Fusil, you're silly.
"How could you have kept this information from us!? If it's the Bubbles static existence that powers the Void, then all we need to do is change it from a static existence to a dynamic one. How we go about doing that, I don't know, but it's a decent end goal if anything.""I only recently learned of this. And changing the Bubble to a dynamic existence would be the same as making it like the rest of the Churn. A Bad IdeaTM."
Propose a barrier to prevent communication outside the Bubble. Of course, we don't have enough power to stop the Nulls from communicating inwards, but what we can do is prevent all Bubble-dwellers from communicating with anything that goes beyond the barrier. At the very least, it should stop gods and other beings from asking for Void deals.Abstain. "I am ambivalent. Pass would hurt information-gathering, failure would leave said deals open for irresponsible beings."
Propose that we remove all Void texts, monuments, temples, and whatever other Void stuff was built by gods. If this proposal passes, ALL gods must contribute to the proposal to prevent the things from not being destroyed like how only Serac could destroy the temple he built to the Void.Oppose. "The monuments and temples ought to go, I agree, but the texts are one of our few safe sources of information."
"That is not relevant. The only way they can get any soldiers in an eternal war would be if we created them ourselves. As I said, they haven no power that we do not give them. They may be able to corrupt our followers some how, but it is only the week who fall to them, and we can one day find a way to rid ourselves of that. Even if every Null in existence rushes our bubble, it will not matter so long as we do not leave the door open for them. What do you fear will assault us?""I have many strategies that do not require creation, but I will not share them, in case I need to use them in the future. If I can do so with Essence, how well do you expect the Null to do so with power specialized to doing so?"
"Ah. I appear to fallen so far beneath the notice of the almighty Fusil that he can't even hear my insults anymore."
Fusil, you're silly.
"I have many strategies that do not require creation, but I will not share them, in case I need to use them in the future. If I can do so with Essence, how well do you expect the Null to do so with power specialized to doing so?"
"They where invited in. In fact, it is one of the goals of the so called benevolent Luminants. They wish to use our Bubble as a spring board to escape their own orbits, moving and destroying us in the process. If we do not assist them in any way, our bubble will not move. If we help the Luminants, we are pushing them one step closer to destroying everything.""Interesting. I find it hard to believe they would be that dumb. Do you know what the Liminals and Umbrals are up to, then?"
"They require you to actively use essence, do they not? Or, at the very least, use the power and influence you have as a God.""Not all of them, actually."
"Interesting. I find it hard to believe they would be that dumb. Do you know what the Liminals and Umbrals are up to, then?"
In order to get out, they need to use a bubble as a kind of spring board. That is their end goal, why they mettle in our bubble, and how they will destroy us if we are not careful."If that is true, then we definitely should get communications up and not alienate them, because we, with a bit of clever use of power, can give them what they want with no harm to ourselves beyond some Essence. I could even do it myself, at a higher cost. As they seem willing to make deals, why not make one?"
"If that is true, then we definitely should get communications up and not alienate them, because we, with a bit of clever use of power, can give them what they want with no harm to ourselves beyond some Essence. I could even do it myself, at a higher cost. As they seem willing to make deals, why not make one?"
"Telling the truth is suddenly childish? Surely the almighty Fusil can do better than throwing my own insult back at me."
"I have enough firepower to level both of you and all of your creations with the snap of my fingers.""Of course you do. Whatever makes you feel special :P"
"I have enough firepower to level both of you and all of your creations with the snap of my fingers.""Of course you do. Whatever makes you feel special :P"
"No thanks. Unlike you, I have no massive ego to please or competence to prove.""I have enough firepower to level both of you and all of your creations with the snap of my fingers.""Of course you do. Whatever makes you feel special :P"
"Actually, I have been looking to give a demonstration since the last upgrade. Would you care for a wager? I bet that Tykki, on her own, could defeat everything you have ever created in combat. At once. Azem can join, too. We will fight in the "Death Battle Plane", so none of your creatures deaths will stick. Tykki VS all of Azem and your creations. If my Tykki wins, you will give me 10 essence. If my Tykki looses, I will give you 10 essence. If any Gods intervene, the match will be considered a draw and no payments will be made. Unless it was a participant, in which case the other side will win. Sound good?"
"I see that you have already put some thought into this, haven't you?""No, I hadn't. My thesis is, we shouldn't be too hasty. Noting that you have got to the point of casting baseless accusations, I have considered your plans enough. I will continue to fight on my own front. This conversation is over."
"Now there is a massive summoning ritual going on. We will have to stop it, or we will be destroyed, in time. Do you deny this?""Go ahead and do what you deem necessary. I will do so as well. But remember, every action and inaction has consequences."
"No thanks. Unlike you, I have no massive ego to please or competence to prove."
"No, I hadn't. My thesis is, we shouldn't be too hasty. Noting that you have got to the point of casting baseless accusations, I have considered your plans enough. I will continue to fight on my own front. This conversation is over."
"Go ahead and do what you deem necessary. I will do so as well. But remember, every action and inaction has consequences."
"No, you actually could not demonstrate in reality. Your demonstration requires me putting all of my creations on a plain for you to readily slaughter with no means of defense. That would be the worst and stupidest decision in the history of stupid. Not happening.Quote"No thanks. Unlike you, I have no massive ego to please or competence to prove."
"I could always demonstrate in reality. After all, you did just cause another huge epidemic, if I am not mistaken. Why do you continue with that? It should be obvious to everyone who the culprit is. I am surprised nobody has attempted to retaliate yet."Quote"No, I hadn't. My thesis is, we shouldn't be too hasty. Noting that you have got to the point of casting baseless accusations, I have considered your plans enough. I will continue to fight on my own front. This conversation is over."
"Is it now? Yet you have more to say? My accusations are based in reality. How could you know that you could do something without thought? You are so sure of yourself, you must have put some effort into finding out that this was possible as you say it is, or you would not have brought it up."Quote"Go ahead and do what you deem necessary. I will do so as well. But remember, every action and inaction has consequences."
"I was just waiting for your permission, Cim. Or maybe I was going to do that anyway?"
"No. No. Don't. I have many records of entire bubbles being devastated by that. The bubbles where completely destroyed when the Null forced them to move, if we do not remain stationary to the Null baycenter all of creation will be destroyed. Likely including us.""There's more than one way to skin a Void being. We don't have to move the Bubble from place to place - expanding the Bubble should allow it to become dynamic without having it swept away. Of course, just expanding it would make it weaker due to stretching and entropy won't be counteracted, thus, we'll have to actually add either some energy or mass to accompany the expansion so the Bubble can become dynamic but it doesn't get weaker and thus more vulnerable to the Churn, whatever that is. Of course, I don't know all that much about Void dynamics so if my idea doesn't work I'd like to know how."
If they win, they can drink from the font of souls (A gigantic skull filled with the energy of the dead) and gain a much longer life span."Excuse me but where exactly did you get those souls from?"
Oppose. "The monuments and temples ought to go, I agree, but the texts are one of our few safe sources of information."Propose the same thing I proposed last time except nothing in the Great Library is destroyed.
"Propose we shut Fusil up, permanently.""Oppose. As much as I loathe his tendencies to threaten the lives of other gods and their followers he is very much justified in this case. We're talking about the destruction of all Creation after all."
"No, you actually could not demonstrate in reality. Your demonstration requires me putting all of my creations on a plain for you to readily slaughter with no means of defense. That would be the worst and stupidest decision in the history of stupid. Not happening.
I mathematically proved I did not do the first one, had no motive to do the others, and can mathematically prove I didn't do the third. Ready to give it up?"
"There's more than one way to skin a Void being. We don't have to move the Bubble from place to place - expanding the Bubble should allow it to become dynamic without having it swept away. Of course, just expanding it would make it weaker due to stretching and entropy won't be counteracted, thus, we'll have to actually add either some energy or mass to accompany the expansion so the Bubble can become dynamic but it doesn't get weaker and thus more vulnerable to the Churn, whatever that is. Of course, I don't know all that much about Void dynamics so if my idea doesn't work I'd like to know how."
The Great Library's guardians are told not to let anyone into the Library except for gods and angels.
"Fusil, what is the relationship between the Umbrals and the Luminals?"
What souls?If they win, they can drink from the font of souls (A gigantic skull filled with the energy of the dead) and gain a much longer life span."Excuse me but where exactly did you get those souls from?"
The Great Library's guardians are told not to let anyone into the Library except for gods and angels.(The void books are already in a restricted section inaccessible to mortals)
"You insult me if you think I'll prove the first again just because you can't be bothered to look back at the records of your conversations with other Gods. If you don't have some, I recommend making them, so that you don't miss any important points and jump to conclusions and look like a jackass. Oh, never mind. Too late.(OOC: Reread the thread, please)
As far as the third, I gained 3 essence during the time that plague was made. Yeah, wasn't me."
"Yes, I do deny it. Hiding anything is not trivial with all of you watching me. Why don't you make yourself some divine lie detector and use it every conversation we have already?!""You insult me if you think I'll prove the first again just because you can't be bothered to look back at the records of your conversations with other Gods. If you don't have some, I recommend making them, so that you don't miss any important points and jump to conclusions and look like a jackass. Oh, never mind. Too late.(OOC: Reread the thread, please)
As far as the third, I gained 3 essence during the time that plague was made. Yeah, wasn't me."
"You are the God of Lies. As it is within your sphere, hiding your true essence would be trivial. Do you deny this fact?"
"Yes, I do deny it. Hiding anything is not trivial with all of you watching me. Why don't you make yourself some divine lie detector and use it every conversation we have already?!"
"We offer up this holy one, rendered by flame to dust once more."Awe, thank you!
"Is it true that I can play cards with you if I die?"
"What is the way of dust?"
"Perhaps if I can demonstrate enough evil, the cycle will break and my life will truly have meaning. What do you think of this?""You could just be good and worship me. I have an afterlife where people can stay as long as they want and can reincarnate whenever they want. The other gods also have afterlives but if I'm reading this records right it seems that reincarnation in them is inevitable."
Malakath has authorized payment for those already in ISAY, sparking the invention of tenures and funding fights.Umm, I don't know what this is. Is this good? Also, the payment was supposed to be a one-time thing like what you get for joining. If they weren't getting paid before (and assuming they knew this), they aren't now.
(Removing concept of disease from the Bubble: Does having [your least favorite god] in the Bubble count as a disease? :P)(-_- *sigh* No, it doesn't. I don't think I need to explain what counts and what doesn't count.)
Malakath has offered the gift of blood-drinkerism to 100 on each of Keshan and Slytha and 50 on Muma. Regrettably, it seems that the mean evilness of the volunteers is significantly higher than the mean evilness of the general population on the Darruthian Holiness Scale (DHS) even after removing the outliers. Some volunteers and followers of the Twenty-Six (all the gods, even the dead) seem to be of above-average devotion while not being too evil...So of the many millions of mortals that exist - including the 20 million mortal mermaids - not even 100 neutral/good people are interested in tripling their life span? I think I might not have been clear with my filtering of choice. Stupid people and evil people are exempt. That's correct. However, devoted people simply take priority. Those who are less than "devoted" to me are still eligible. Does this fill up the 150 quota?
Malakath (Souls, Blood): 21/21, 5-6(Oh wow. In all the time I've been playing Ye Gods, this is the first time I've managed to get to 21/21 Essence. I am euphoric.)
Ah, not quite. While certainly one reincarnates the majority of the time if my afterlife is the stepping stone, those who have achieved the highest principles of Goodness are invited and allowed to stay, to assist in spreading Goodness from within and achieving a sense of peace and accomplishment. More or less, anyway. It's difficult to describe the Spirit Legion with any more accuracy than that, as everyone within it are individuals."Alternatively, you can worship me, be good enough to be classified as good - you don't have to be the goodest of the good - and you can stay as long as you want without any further conditions. Moreover, "Spirit Legion" implies that he'll expect you to fight which is not the case in the Heaven Plane."
Although your siphoning away of souls in this manner is...less than appreciated, Malakath. Unless you are willing to increase the number of souls naturally formed so that the natural growth rate of the population combined with your removal of souls from the reincarnation economy does not result in a metaphysical bankruptcy?"Ah yes, I forgot about that. Now that my wonderful proposal has passed, I can actually do this."
79.00: Remove the concept of disease (1-0/14) <?> [IMMINENT PASS]
79.04.1: 79.04 except filtering out anything in the Great Library (1-0/14) <?> [IMMINENT PASS]
79.05: Silence Fusil permanently (2-0/14) [IMMINENT SUCCESS]
"You fools, what have you done? As I said, you passed the stupid law. Now all someone has to do is continue proposing something continuously, and it will eventually pass. As an example, I will remove this pitiful law, no matter how long it takes."
"I Propose that we remove the law created by 75.01. I will continue posting this until it eventually passes. Functionally, you made it so everything will pass or fail in two turns. If this is ever ignored for two turns, it will automatically pass."
Quote79.04.1: 79.04 except filtering out anything in the Great Library (1-0/14) <?> [IMMINENT PASS]
"Oppose. We need some information that is not in the Great Library. You do realize that if all of these pass with only you supporting it, this will essentially siphon all your essence away? Like I said, thing about the consequences of your actions."
Quote"In that case we should set up a council committee to study the Void in a safe, controlled environment. After 35 bloody Ticks it's about time we finally set up such a committee." (That's officially a proposal, by the way.)
"I oppose. Are you trying to get all of creation destroyed? Aside from that, they have sent a killer that will likely be here right away. Destroying it will be our first priority, researching it from books and other safe ways should be second."
Quote79.05: Silence Fusil permanently (2-0/14) [IMMINENT SUCCESS]
"...Oppose. I will personally shoot everyone who supported this *tips funny hat over eyes*"
Additionally, I propose that any proposal that doesn't pass due to more opposition than support cannot be re-proposed for 10 ticks.
...this. I agree with your opinion here though.
Quote...this. I agree with your opinion here though.
"Why? In both cases, I supported using safe research tools such as books to study the Void. There are plenty of Books outside the Great library, I own several libraries full personally from when they where removed. There is a difference between reading about the abilities of nuclear weapons and detonating one over your cities to see their effects."
Sounds reasonable. Yet blowing up a nuke or two in an open field somwhere far away from the cities (controled enviroment) can go to great lenghts to improving knowledge gained from reading abaut it.
"This is also true. Worshipping Malakath will break you out of the cycle. Personally, I believe this world has enough evil already. However, it is your choice alone that matters here.""Perhaps if I can demonstrate enough evil, the cycle will break and my life will truly have meaning. What do you think of this?""You could just be good and worship me. I have an afterlife where people can stay as long as they want and can reincarnate whenever they want. The other gods also have afterlives but if I'm reading this records right it seems that reincarnation in them is inevitable."
"I Propose that we remove the law created by 75.01. I will continue posting this until it eventually passes. Functionally, you made it so everything will pass or fail in two turns. If this is ever ignored for two turns, it will automatically pass."Auto-Oppose
Additionally, I propose that any proposal that doesn't pass due to more opposition than support cannot be re-proposed for 10 ticks.[/color][/glow]Oppose
"You people do realise that ALL texts in existence generate an unaligned copy of it in the Great Library, right? There's not a single book in the entire Bubble that doesn't have a copy in the Great Library. Passing my proposal will simply prevent mortals from having access to these books and thus knowing how to summon whatever's being summoned. We can count on the texts not being stolen thanks to the various traps and guardians that Artisanii has implemented since the theft."
Propose destroying all Void things that AREN'T texts, just in case the other gods continue to oppose the proposal to deprive the mortals of Void summoning manuals.
Propose that instead of using the soul-spawning system as the backbone to population growth, souls will instead naturally form on their own. This proposal will only apply to the races we have created and only where the beings are created via birth (so things like Shinjo and Golems don't grow souls on their own. This'll also make sure that things like chairs don't begin developing souls.) This system is simply supposed to replace the soul-spawn system. Things that are born will still be born with reincarnated souls. This system simply allows for the taking of as many of those reincarnated souls as possible without affecting population numbers or growth. (They'll instead be affected in the ways that they are IRL.)
And that is why I do all my Void experiements (ex. Does it burn?) on one of uninhabited Gass giant moons.
"Seeing as Yaos stole them last time, and a God is more powerful then simple traps and Gaurdians, I will continue to keep my backup books. Texts are not the only way to learn, and seeing as they alredy started, it will not stop them.""I'm just going to give this answer for free. Yaos had nothing to do with the theft. It was likely just a group of mortals."
"What did I tell you about messing with the Void!? And on solid ground no less! You could just as easily study it a million miles away from any creation! Why would you risk corrupting existence for such small bits of knowlage you could easily achieve from the library?"
"I'm just going to give this answer for free. Yaos had nothing to do with the theft. It was likely just a group of mortals."
I wouldn't know what you told me, your speech is regulary rendered undecipherable by spelling mistakes.
Mostly yes. As amusing as it was to see you intentionaly use "Knowlage" to annoy people, by now it has gotten past dull into tiresome.
Meant to be said, yes, but not writen.
Proposal AOppose. Everyone will just start opposing proposals to get out of paying Essence for something they want nothing to do with.
Proposal BOppose. Propose that proposals need to be supported by at least 1 other god.
Also, I propose something of a compromise, though Fusil doesn't believe in compromise and as such will probably oppose this.
Proposal A: Proposals that pass have essence put into them by both Gods who supported it and Gods who abstained. The share of essence contributed is as follows: 2 shares from each Supporting God, one share from each Abstaining God, and zero shares from each Opposing God. In this way, there will be motivation to vote on an issue one way or another; Supporting counters opposition so it can pass, while Abstaining makes it more likely to pass, but you must assist at least somewhat. I foresee this causing people to want to Abstain so they don't have to put in more essence, but the difference will be miniscule, and if everyone is being made to work together, the discount could be great enough as to not have to spend much, if anything, to accomplish it.
Proposal B: In order for a Proposal to pass, it must be Supported by at least 2(3?) Gods other than the God that put it forward. In this way, one cannot pass a proposal simply because people forget about it. Opposition does not count into this total, and does not counter-act Support; if 3 Gods support something and 2 Gods oppose, it passes, just as if all five Gods supported it. The only difference is the distribution of the Essence responsibility, if any.
Oppose. Propose that proposals need to be supported by at least 1 other god.
"You reap what you sew. I do not see the need to increase the amount of pointless proposals as everyone else seems to. Look, we already got the Blood God to make half a dozen pointless proposals, why do we need more? What is the purpose for increasing the amount of proposals?""Maybe to repair this oh-so-terrible situation that you complain about? Your complaints are valid, but see how our voter activity increased? Right now we need to reform this system to a more sustainable one, and blame yourself if you don't participate and something that you don't like comes to passing. Too bad you haven't much clout beyond threatening to murder anyone opposing you, at least in my eyes."
Spoiler: Votes (click to show/hide)"You reap what you sew. I do not see the need to increase the amount of pointless proposals as everyone else seems to. Look, we already got the Blood God to make half a dozen pointless proposals, why do we need more? What is the purpose for increasing the amount of proposals?""Maybe to repair this oh-so-terrible situation that you complain about? Your complaints are valid, but see how our voter activity increased? Right now we need to reform this system to a more sustainable one, and blame yourself if you don't participate and something that you don't like comes to passing. Too bad you haven't much clout beyond threatening to murder anyone opposing you, at least in my eyes."
The primary point of Proposal A is make Council motions actually worth a damn. As it is now, it's just the gods who support it working together as they would anything else. All making it into a proposal does is give others an opportunity to reject it. If a motion passing meant the entire Council would work together to get it done, however...And yes, it would lead to people opposing votes. That's the point. If you only want to do it with 2 or 3 gods, just do it and be done. Don't bother the council with it.
"I propose we ban auto-opposals. I autoproppose this!"Oppose
Also, I propose something of a compromise, though Fusil doesn't believe in compromise and as such will probably oppose this."Support."
Proposal A: Proposals that pass have essence put into them by both Gods who supported it and Gods who abstained. The share of essence contributed is as follows: 2 shares from each Supporting God, one share from each Abstaining God, and zero shares from each Opposing God. In this way, there will be motivation to vote on an issue one way or another; Supporting counters opposition so it can pass, while Abstaining makes it more likely to pass, but you must assist at least somewhat. I foresee this causing people to want to Abstain so they don't have to put in more essence, but the difference will be miniscule, and if everyone is being made to work together, the discount could be great enough as to not have to spend much, if anything, to accomplish it.
Proposal B: In order for a Proposal to pass, it must be Supported by at least 2(3?) Gods other than the God that put it forward. In this way, one cannot pass a proposal simply because people forget about it. Opposition does not count into this total, and does not counter-act Support; if 3 Gods support something and 2 Gods oppose, it passes, just as if all five Gods supported it. The only difference is the distribution of the Essence responsibility, if any.
"My visions show a war may be coming, Golden One.""What sort of visions are these?"
The evil person proceeds to pound and kick a neighbor's door in the middle of the night. Fortuitously, there was an unnoticed fire inside which the neighbors slept through until the knocking roused the entire family. The family thanks the evil person greatly.Nice use of the butterfly effect. I wonder why it was a secret action, though.
Most mortals who do want to triple their lifespan would rather use "natural" methods. Interestingly, many of them mention that a certain other god would probably subvert the tripling by adding the time seconds before death or something similarly awful. Malakath has reached the quota for Keshan and Slytha, but the Mumans, Gruen, and Armu on Muma leave something to be desired. For the Mumans, old age is seen as a luxury reserved for those wealthy enough to avoid mine duty.How about this: the more you age, the faster you do (once adulthood is reached). That way, they get to enjoy the best part of their lives as much as they can while they suffer the worst parts for as little as possible.
"I'd like to ask permission before I do, but is it ok with you if were to create some weapon spirits? I'm thinking about making one for myself and maybe some for my angel priests. Since weapon spirits are kind of your thing I'm just trying to make sure I'm not crossing a line here."
"I do not care what you create, if it is based off my design or no."Well alrighty then.
Holy one: An old priest who died while sleeping one dayOkay, good. Burning of dead is encouraged, as is feeding The Lunagee.
"Can I play cards now?"
Propose that the strength of a proposal is directly linked to the ratio of supporters vs opposers and the amount of essence invested by supporters."That is already the case. This proposal is obsolete, unless you mean to increase the link."
(This format is superb. I can see what you're supporting, opposing, or abstaining on without having to keep another tab open to see what those proposal numbers mean.)Spoiler (click to show/hide)
80.03: Destroy all Void things save texts (1-0/14) <?> [IMMINENT PASS] Oppose For the same reason as last time it was proposed with only slightly different wording. ::)"It isn't slightly different wording. Passing this proposal means that we get to keep all available information on the Void but any monuments and temples that serve nothing but to strengthen the Void are destroyed. I'm not sure why anyone wouldn't want that."
Propose that the strength of a proposal is directly linked to the ratio of supporters vs opposers and the amount of essence invested by supporters. I dislike that a proposal that barely passes should be as effective as a proposal with strong support and I also want the people who propose and support things to really be invested in the proposals. Proposals should not just be a method of sneaking in what you want in a way that affects everyone or an easy manner of spending less essence. It should be a way for gods with ideas they really believe in to try and garner support from everyone to improve things and the effectiveness of this should be directly linked to how much they and others are willing to invest and support the idea.Oppose. "Recent proposals should curb the "sneaking in" of proposals well enough. Having this proposal would only serve to further weaken the gods. With the Council, even a small group of gods can effectively fight against the Void in some respect. Without it, even their powers combined can be easily vetoed. If other gods don't want these proposals to pass, then they have merely to oppose them. (This argument relies on some of the anti-exploit proposals being passed.) At some point, it's not other gods "sneaking in" proposals, it's just you (you in general) being lazy."
Propose that I gain the official Council title of Arbiter of Magic. Basically, while gods are free to define and argue about how magic works as much as they want, it'll be my job to mediate these and standardise them and I will ultimately have final say over these things. It will also be my job to classify and categorise new magic systems (what attunements they fall under, for example) to make them easier for gods and mortals (and the GM) to understand and work with.
I start energy-blasting the Spooky City. "Anyone interested in helping?"
"Oppose. Why would we let you have all control over magic? It is a horrible idea no matter how you look at it. You would be the only one who benefits from this, and would answer to nobody..."(I edited that paragraph a bit.) "I have given my reasons for how it would benefit others. Regardless, I can see your concerns and I feel they are valid."
(....What city, exactly?)(The one that the Stone Warriors razed and ever since it's been haunted by Void Influence and monsters. I'm pretty sure there were two or three cities that were razed but I think GM retconned it to just the one.)
(I edited that paragraph a bit.) "I have given my reasons for how it would benefit others. Regardless, I can see your concerns and I feel they are valid."
Propose that I can be overruled if three other gods oppose me. If I'm supported by a god, the opposition number must go to four. If i'm supported by two, opposition must be at five, and so on. Resolution will be passed every Tick and a half or two Ticks.
(The one that the Stone Warriors razed and ever since it's been haunted by Void Influence and monsters. I'm pretty sure there were two or three cities that were razed but I think GM retconned it to just the one.)
Me: I propose we do A, B, C, and D.
Other god: I don't like C! Oppose!
Me: Fine. I still think we should do A, B, and D, though. I propose that we do those but we don't do C.
Other god: You're just making a small change to get the proposal passed! Oppose!
Me: -_-
You do realise the problem there, right? My last proposal that said how my Arbiter power can be kept in check only makes sense when combined with my first proposal defining what an arbiter does. Also, if I were to make A, B, C, and D on their own, I'd start getting complaints about making too many proposals or making so many proposals that other gods can't oppose in time, leading them to auto-oppose anything I propose.Me: I propose we do A, B, C, and D.
Other god: I don't like C! Oppose!
Me: Fine. I still think we should do A, B, and D, though. I propose that we do those but we don't do C.
Other god: You're just making a small change to get the proposal passed! Oppose!
Me: ಠ_ಠ
Stop putting so much in one proposal then? A,B,C, and D could each be their own. If you did that in the first place, your problem would be solved!
Propose that I gain the official Council title of Arbiter of Magic. Basically, while gods are free to define and argue about how magic works as much as they want, it'll be my job to mediate these and standardise them and I will ultimately have final say over these things. It will also be my job to classify and categorise new magic systems (what attunements they fall under, for example) to make them easier for gods and mortals (and the GM) to understand and work with.
I start energy-blasting the Spooky City. "Anyone interested in helping?"
"The energy-blasting is actually to kill the monsters inside the cities. Once that's done, me and my angels will dig out the city and throw it into the sun."
How abaut you don't do that. Dust ring enchantments are gradualy erasing whatever remnants of Void influence are in there, and energy blasts, while being real good for spreading Void influence around, are real crap when it comes to destroying it.
((As long as I don't go Dormant, you're damn right I do))
Oppose Malakath being final arbitrator on magic. Yeah no that'd be like making Fusil the final arbitrator on war or me the final arbitrator on morality. Actually, no, it wouldn't, because you're not the god of Magic. It'd be like making me the final arbitrator on war, Fusil the final arbitrator on morality, and Azem the final arbitrator on cupcake baking competitions, while Khaziraad got to be the final arbitrator of what everyone else's Temples and Churches get/have to include."So forget my contributions to magic, forget my efforts in categorising and explaining magic, and just disallow me this on the fact that Magic isn't my sphere. In my opinion, Azem should be the final arbitrator on cupcake baking competitions if he's had a long history of setting up and managing such competitions. Perhaps we should assign roles based on experience rather than inheritance? Especially considering that there IS no god of Magic and it's possible that there may never be."
Serac confirmed as High King of Pastries?Oppose Malakath being final arbitrator on magic. Yeah no that'd be like making Fusil the final arbitrator on war or me the final arbitrator on morality. Actually, no, it wouldn't, because you're not the god of Magic. It'd be like making me the final arbitrator on war, Fusil the final arbitrator on morality, and Azem the final arbitrator on cupcake baking competitions, while Khaziraad got to be the final arbitrator of what everyone else's Temples and Churches get/have to include."So forget my contributions to magic, forget my efforts in categorising and explaining magic, and just disallow me this on the fact that Magic isn't my sphere. In my opinion, Azem should be the final arbitrator on cupcake baking competitions if he's had a long history of setting up and managing such competitions. Perhaps we should assign roles based on experience rather than inheritance? Especially considering that there IS no god of Magic and it's possible that there may never be."
"It was a bad example. Having an arbiter of magic to manage its complexity would probably be rather useful."
"That would be my job, actually. As arbiter, I would have no more control over it than anyone else. All I would do is create as clear and concise understanding of its various branches and applications as possible.""It was a bad example. Having an arbiter of magic to manage its complexity would probably be rather useful."
"I don't think you even fully understand magic as it is. How can you hope to control something you do not understand?"
"That would be my job, actually. As arbiter, I would have no more control over it than anyone else. All I would do is create as clear and concise understanding of its various branches and applications as possible.""It was a bad example. Having an arbiter of magic to manage its complexity would probably be rather useful."
"I don't think you even fully understand magic as it is. How can you hope to control something you do not understand?"
Example if I was arbiter:
Fusil: "I just created thaumetallurgy. This is what it does: [stuff]."
Malakath (as arbiter): Based on that description, I'd say it's a combination of Universal and Elemental magic.
"That would be the extent of my job."
There is a massive revolution on Muma! The Armu and Seppo are delighted to supply weapons to all participants while staying mostly uninvolved. The Gruen stay out of it. Many Mumans die needlessly in the fighting, and some on both sides have turned to Malakath for blood-drinker-ism.Hmm....do I want to support the side I started the revolution against or the side who has the most amount of people in its faction? I think I'll give the blood-drinker trait to the 50 most good, devoted-to-me, and not-stupid/insane Revolutionary Mumans. Also, I give the order for my angel to join the fight.
(Quota: I'm not sure how to describe it better. Perhaps request? It's like you've received at least 100% of what you came for. In any case, with the newer redefinition of the blood-drinker plan, there is enough support.)
Malakath has created the Soul Weapons and Soul Protectors and informed the sapients of them. However, this does not actually reach all of them because of logistical and diplomatic issues.Luckily, I'm a god, and talking to every sapient has been confirmed to be a free action so I just tell everyone about Soul Items in a normal, balanced fashion.
The ones visiting the Night Elves have been arrested by shadowy figures and pray that they are in a cell near a chamber with a starry roof.This is troubling. Angel priests are supposed to be as powerful as Yaos' Controller angels who were reported to be less powerful than regular angels but more powerful than Paladins - elite, combat-enhanced, immortal Humans. Either these shadowy figures are really powerful or my angels are just playing along. In any case, I break them out, attempting not to kill anyone but doing so if I must and taking any spare (unoccupied) angel priests with me. (Are my angel priests praying that they're in a starry roof or is something else praying?)
The general populace of the Raksha seethe at having to quarter the agents of any god at all.I extract the angels from the Raksha settlements, apologise for the inconvenience, and I take them with me to free the imprisoned angel priests.
Malakath has begun energy-blasting the Spooky City.I was actually supposed to go to the sun instead of blast the city since Khazo has that covered but since nothing bad happened I guess it's fine.
Khaziraad has created 500 angels identical in form and power to the original five angels. The five original ones have been improved and assigned 100 of the new angels to command. One of the originals has begun bombing the city along with Malakath.
Malakath has flown into the Keshan sun. It burns!
Solar activity is extremely high for Slytha's sun.Seems I flew into the wrong sun. I instead check out the Slythan sun, first with my god vision and then by flying in if I have to.
"...Tykki, hit Malakath with a stick."Support 79.05. Malakath wonders if the stick is enchanted against fire.
As the children who grew up reading the books,well, grow up and realize the parody it is meant to be, the Author will release a gritty reboot of the series where the two fight off armies of stone men, Malakath's blood drinkers, and Void things. The now-grown children, in a combination of feeling kinship for their childhood heroes and fervor for the new books, will be nudged favorably toward Fusil.
The Dwarves are divided in their opinions, and a rather vocal faction sees Malakath as the malevolent aspect of their true god of Blood.I'm more interested that they consider me the malevolent aspect of their "true god of Blood" than that they have such a god. I tell my angels to open up diplomatic information links to find out more about this god, why they find me malevolent, and to generally build a better relationship with the Dwarves.
The worshipper has entered the portal and is waiting with a deck of cards.Hello [Name]!
This is troubling. Angel priests are supposed to be as powerful as Yaos' Controller angels who were reported to be less powerful than regular angels but more powerful than Paladins - elite, combat-enhanced, immortal Humans. Either these shadowy figures are really powerful or my angels are just playing along. In any case, I break them out, attempting not to kill anyone but doing so if I must. (Are my angel priests praying that they're in a starry roof or is something else praying?)
Veto. The author is retired and happy and wouldn't want to write any more books. Also, the Gem Dragon publisher wouldn't publish such a book because it's intelligent and knows it would likely ruin the franchise. If by some miracle it managed to pass (considering that I'm vetoing it), the children's parents would be horrified by the new violent content they've been tricked into buying for their children and will blame Fusil for it, seeing it as the obvious propaganda that it is.
Yaos controller angels are pretty weak, even the regular Angels are pretty weak without enchantments. Remember how my Angels where able to decimate the Paladins with no trouble?Indeed. One of Yaos' regulars managed to easily beat ten Paladins who attacked it at once. However, even a mere Paladin is kind of OP when compared to a mortal, let alone something in between that and a full-on angel.
"Keep that veto up, and I will consider this pointless blasphemy an attempt to steal my followers and will retaliate as such.""Considering that you're putting me on the same side as those stone warriors (I wasn't even around back then) and Void beings, I'd say you're doing the same thing. I'm just vetoing your attempt at slander - I'm not trying to steal your followers."
Indeed. One of Yaos' regulars managed to easily beat ten Paladins who attacked it at once. However, even a mere Paladin is kind of OP when compared to a mortal, let alone something in between that and a full-on angel.
"Considering that you're putting me on the same side as those stone warriors (I wasn't even around back then) and Void beings, I'd say you're doing the same thing. I'm just vetoing your attempt at slander - I'm not trying to steal your followers."
Not really. The Vindico didn't have much trouble against them, and they where fairly comparable to the mortal opponents during that war.The Humanos Grande proved an effective match against a Vindico and the Controllers could kill them pretty easily.
"In retaliation for you making this insult in the first place. Unless your goal was to spill the blood of your followers, what was the purpose of that other than to take followers away from me? Ill say it again. If you continue the veto, I will retaliate. We do not have enough resources for you to distract me right now, the summoning ritual is still going on.""Insult?? In case you haven't noticed, children and even adults LOVE your character. The books are more of an affectionate parody than a condemning one. Perhaps you should read a few copies?"
The Humanos Grande proved an effective match against a Vindico and the Controllers could kill them pretty easily.
"Insult?? In case you haven't noticed, children and even adults LOVE your character. The books are more of an affectionate parody than a condemning one. Perhaps you should read a few copies?"
Can we be honest, here, rather than continuing to try and prove who has the largest electronic dick?
If we're talking about conscripted soldiers, a Paladin could probably fight a mob of them and come out on top, given sufficient space to keep from getting surrounded/trampled. If we're talking about professional soldiers, a Paladin would probably lose against half a dozen if they knew each other and were working together as a team. Wouldn't mean he wouldn't inflict casualties, though.
Also, Fusil, saying 'my angels killed them super easy' when they were buffed to all hell and back, with super-weapons, as well as their god being personally in the fray...it's a bit disingenuous, don't ya think?
One of them, maybe. An army could easily beat one of your weak Controller Angels, let alone a Paladin.Of course. Ditto with the Humanos.
"At least one of my priests felt that it was insulting enough to make a new version. Why haven't you explained the purpose for doing this in the first place?""Actually, the Armu writing the new books is merely devoted - he's not a priest. He's probably making the new versions just to show a different side to you. Honestly, though, devoted religious people tend to get easily offended anyway. It's normal. I did it because I've never used the butterfly effect and I wanted to. This is the idea that I came up with. Besides, I highly doubt that people would stop worshipping you just because an author made a humorous parody of you. We gave mortals increased common sense, remember?"
If we're talking about conscripted soldiers, a Paladin could probably fight a mob of them and come out on top, given sufficient space to keep from getting surrounded/trampled. If we're talking about professional soldiers, a Paladin would probably lose against half a dozen if they knew each other and were working together as a team. Wouldn't mean he wouldn't inflict casualties, though.A mere half-dozen? Unlikely. Aside from being combat-enhanced, these guys were chosen for being the best of the best. Even a mundane top-tier warrior might kill six professional soldiers in combat, though it is a bit unlikely. Now, adding in the fact that they're also combat-enhanced and are immortal - thus giving them a LOT more time to train and get experience - I'd say that the six pro soldiers stand no chance against even one. That's not even mentioning their top-tier, heavier than normal-people-can-wear armour. All of this is assuming it's a melee fight.
Personally, I would have them use a rain of crossbow bolts, enough of them would pretty easily take down a paladin.Wouldn't work. Their armour is way too thick and all-encompassing.
I was talking about the battle when I was locked up. Two of my Angels where killing twenty Paladins in a turn with no difficulty.Indeed. 1 angels to 10 Paladins and the angel will win.
Oh, well, that just matches up with given data so far. One controller Angel beat 10 Paladins, after all.Incorrect. One regular angel can beat 10 Paladins. I didn't test how many a Controller could take.
"Actually, the Armu writing the new books is merely devoted - he's not a priest. He's probably making the new versions just to show a different side to you. Honestly, though, devoted religious people tend to get easily offended anyway. It's normal. I did it because I've never used the butterfly effect and I wanted to. This is the idea that I came up with. Besides, I highly doubt that people would stop worshipping you just because an author made a humorous parody of you. We gave mortals increased common sense, remember?"
Wouldn't work. Their armour is way too thick and all-encompassing.
Crossbows can pierce a man in armor. As in, go through the man and his armor and come out the other side. Your armor is not thick enough to stop one.(I call BS. Also, this argument has been moved to OOC.)
"...Tykki, hit Malakath with a stick."(I just remembered/realised that that was not-Fusil's modus operandi in the books. *facepalm*)
"Hey Torture Deity do you wanna form a pantheon, Us newbies have to stick together.""I'm not sure what the advantages of a pantheon are, but torture equals satisfaction, so i will accept your offer"
"raped innocent childeren?"(Rape and pedophilia don't exist in Ye Gods thanks to the will of the gods. Sexism probably falls under it too since none of the gods have shown to be sexist. Racism is definitely a thing, though.)
For the purpose of obtaining a confession so that the victims might obtain peace."How would getting a confession from a murderer give a victim peace? Either they'd have reincarnated and wouldn't care or they'd have gone to an afterlife where, presumably, they'd be at peace anyway."
"Can you improve the sun? It's too hot everywhere."
"One Of Our Apprentices Has Created An Abomination Of A Golem Heart."
"Can Kyloth give me a personal waterfall?"
"Y-yes, Melyssa. I will remove the cushion from the Thick Chair and put nails into it. S-sorry Darruth and Cim. I f-fear my lord more.""I am proud of you. Your loyalty shall be rewarded."
"Because our doors are actual doors! Have you seen one of their so-called doors? They don't have any rocks or blades!""There are doors without rocks or blades? That's ridiculous! Do they only use their doors to get inside or outside of something?"
A different author has begun publishing a gritty reboot of the Fusil-Tykki series. It is too early to tell how successful it is."I will not attempt to stop this."
A massive explosion has leveled the Spooky City! 70 of the 100 new angels of Khaziraad have been killed. The total Void influence in the area seems not to have diminished significantly.I send my Wyrm familiar to check out the remains of the city.
The Dwarves seem to worship a blood god of some sort unknown to the real gods. This god's benevolent aspect seems to relate to victory and the spilling of enemy blood practically as an act of worship. The malevolent aspect seems to relate to creatures that thirst for blood and corrupt their lands, inviting destruction by outside threats. Some believe that the malevolent aspect may be closely tied to the Void itself.Their prophet was rather correct in knowing of the coming of the Blood God and the creation of the blood-drinkers but was obviously in the midst of being subtly manipulated by the Void, corrupting its vision. Just the spilling of blood is not considered an act of worship. I only created blood-drinkers this Tick, they're the same as normal people, and are not any more corrupting than a non-blood-drinking member of their race. I am certainly NOT tied to the Void.
Lunagee dust warriors have joined in the fighting on Muma. Friendly fire more than doubles.This is bad. It's time to put an end to the war. The Revolutionaries have shown great devotion to me and thus will be rewarded for their efforts. I go down in my godly form and wipe out the remaining Establishment forces, sending them to either of my afterlives depending on their morality.
"What is the cheapest way to destroy a soul?""Burning out your soul by overusing Cosmic magic."
"Look at my beautiful painting!"
"We have an order of three Blood oaths, all without a smiting clause."
(Not being maintained until I get 5 Essence for it. Why else would my god update some bestiary of another god?)Spoiler: Features (click to show/hide)
81.02: Make Atropos the Arbiter of Prophecy? (Not sure if serious) (1-0/15) [PASSED](Shouldn't have been passed. It needs the support of at least two other gods to pass.)
79.05: Silence Fusil permanently (5-3/15) [PASSED]
+5 from Quéßäre, Azem, Melyssa, Joha, Malakath
0 from 7 others
-3 from Grauel, Fusil, Khaziraad
Oppose.
Propose that Fusil is unsilenced.
"I can gamble for a longer life? With these cards? And it's not cheating?"Example the cards to determine if they are a legal deck, and if they aren't fix them so they are.
Atropos has been named Arbiter of Prophecy.I'm an Arbiter now? Hahaha!
Oppose this opposeOppose.
Propose that Fusil is unsilenced.
"KI` Tork I asked you if I could join your pantheon a while back and I`m afraid I can`t find your answer."
My Gods! That actually passed! I know I was the one who started it, but this is Fusil. If he can't communicate through talking, he's going to communicate by killing stuff. Still, he has a lesson to learn.Quote79.05: Silence Fusil permanently (5-3/15) [PASSED]
+5 from Quéßäre, Azem, Melyssa, Joha, Malakath
0 from 7 others
-3 from Grauel, Fusil, Khaziraad
Tick 83, the day when stupidity took form of a cork in Fusils throath. Why the hell did anyone even vote for this?
Propose that Fusil is unsilenced.
The Wolf People have some connections with more developed civilization but mostly roam the vast wilds freely.I send a message to the Wolf People through their minds.
So I'm curious, Quéßäre. Other than misleading someone with only partial truths or omission, what sort of deception is not some sort of lie?"I mostly meant omissions and partial truths, but if you can find another thing that fits, please tell me."
((Sidenote: Why'd ya have to go and make your name so hard to type? I end up just copy/pasting it anytime I have to say it. >.> :P))
"One can tell the whole truth, but have the other assume it a lie, causing him to deceive himself.""Yep, that's one."
((I just type it as "Kaybar", because that is apparently the correct pronunciation, despite the accents implying otherwise.))
Quéßäre - God of deception and guile, mostly refered to by title because name contains three letters that are not on your average keyboard. Can never be trusted, even when it comes to lying.
Ah. Causing one to deceive themselves. I think, of them all, I like that one the most. My apologies for having offended you some time ago by calling you the Lord of Lies. Although, I believe all lies are deception, even if it is not true in reverse...what would you prefer as a title, then? Your name is rather...difficult...to pronounce..."It's okay. We've all said bad things in the heat of the moment.
Also, though you don't have to tell me and indeed I suspect you won't as that would possibly defeat the point of it, may I ask what deceptions are not permitted, according to your code?
Finally, on a somewhat different topic, does anyone know what becoming part of a Pantheon actually does?
Alright, so maybe not so finally, but I would ask Khaziraad, Azem, and Joha if they would be willing to assist me with some things. I feel that we've all been on more or less good terms for the time I've been around, even if Joha doesn't talk much. I would ask Cim, but...I have a feeling he'd rather go alone, and the favors I ask have little to do with his sphere.
+1My Gods! That actually passed! I know I was the one who started it, but this is Fusil. If he can't communicate through talking, he's going to communicate by killing stuff. Still, he has a lesson to learn.Quote79.05: Silence Fusil permanently (5-3/15) [PASSED]
+5 from Quéßäre, Azem, Melyssa, Joha, Malakath
0 from 7 others
-3 from Grauel, Fusil, Khaziraad
Tick 83, the day when stupidity took form of a cork in Fusils throath. Why the hell did anyone even vote for this?
Propose that Fusil is unsilenced.
Propose we give Fusil his voice back in 4 Ticks.
"Don't be afraid to ask for my help. Talk is cheap."Actually, I was trying to be polite...to be honest, I'm not entirely sure I should trust you. I know I can; I obviously have in the past, what with the Justiciars, but you're powerful enough, secretive enough, and either cunning or paranoid enough that I can see you putting backdoors into anything I helped you make that didn't benefit you in some way. Plus, I really have very little idea what your goals really are, and so while Khaziraad and Joha, for example, would be helpful to me, and have some interest in helping me, I would be forced to be somewhat more wary of you. My apologies for being so blunt. If I had some way to be sure...ensuring my creations are organized and able to cooperate is certainly beneficial, and something you might be able to help with, but I'm sorry, Cim. I don't mean to insult you; quite the opposite, really. If I had a way to be sure I could trust you, then I would gladly ask for your help, but to ask you to provide assurances when I'm the one asking for your aid? Well, it's a bit silly through and through, now isn't it?
Send a few glass spiders to observe the place where town used to be in case monsters (re)spawn.No point in sending my Wyrm then. I do not send my Wyrm.
Malakath has eradicated the Establishment Mumans and sent as many as possible that believe to the Malakathite afterlife.Well, time to have my angel - whom I shall name Nelin - create a socio-economic system structured upon common ownership of the means of production and characterized by the absence of social classes, money, and the state; as well as a social, political, and economic ideology and movement that aims to establish this social order.
Some of the Dwarves have arranged a feast for Malakath. It becomes clear that the spilling of enemy blood for the mysterious non-Malakath blood god is non-negotiable for many of them.The idea is that spilling blood - literally - isn't any more worship-worthy or -unworthy as killing an enemy in my name without the literal spilling of blood.
The painting is a wall mural of many of the gods with a faceless Malakath prominent and at the center. Upon closer inspection, it seems to have been painted using blood."This is incredible! The detail you have captured with a pigment admittedly as unoptimal as blood is truly remarkable! I will grant your request for this exemplary display of devotion." I paint in my own face (with the same style and quality as the rest of the mural, of course) with my blood. This will enchant the mural so it is not only indestructible except by destroying the wall, but it will also resonate positively with the souls of whoever takes proper time to behold it. During a blood moon and the day of the blood moon, the figures will become slightly animate (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiZO9DZbnZo#t=624).
"Like it? I can make more if you like! Also, could you paint your own face in with your own blood?"
(That was never the intention, funnily enough.)
"Thank you. I think that will be all for today."
I sprout a tentacle out of my corporeal body, made entirely out of faces, the size of a parade of elephants. Currently the faces are >:( >:( >:(. A second tentacle bursts out of my leg, uncurling like a centipede. This one is made entirely out of arms with hands attached. Five more tentacles join it, the same in every way. The pointer fingers on the thousands of hands points outward, in the general direction of the other Gods, with the thumb outstretched above it. The rest of the fingers remain clenched.
>:( >:( >:(
"But it is not recent! It's been too hot for ages!"
"It Produces A Foul Rusty Liquid, Surely A Symbol Of Decline And Degradation."
"Also, I may or may not be responsible for the explosion, umm....sorry...about your new angels..." :-\How and why exactly did you cause the explosion?
If sun becomes any hotter, siphon away excess heat to one of Gass giant moons (not inhabited by Mumans).[/b]VETO. Planet-exploding is a really, really stupid idea.
The part about Void pacts being used for assorted mundane housework is true.Propose that we make all sapients magic-capable. In the same way that life creates chi, sapience will create mana. Thus, it won't cost any more to create mortals than it already does. Of course, some non-sapients would continue to have magic but they'll be part of the exception, just as they've always been.
If sun becomes any hotter, siphon away excess heat to one of Gass giant moons (not inhabited by Mumans).[/b]VETO. Planet-exploding is a really, really stupid idea.
The cards seem to be legal, if a bit roughly worn probably from years of use. Do you fix them anyway?No. Then let's play!
UnvetoIf sun becomes any hotter, siphon away excess heat to one of Gass giant moons (not inhabited by Mumans).[/b]VETO. Planet-exploding is a really, really stupid idea.
If I siphoned away full power, then yes, moon would likely turn into a plasma ball. But I'd be only siphoning away excess power, mere fraction, less than 1%, and only if it gets any worse. This way, it's less likely to vaporize and more likely to mabye, just mabye become warm enough to melt the core and create electromagnetic field to enable creating propper atmosphere easily.
"What are the Mumans?""The gods made a gas giant in each system with thirty moons orbiting around each. Mumans are Humans made by Yaos adapted to live on the closest, most hospitable moon orbiting the Keshan gas giant which he named "Konva", originally named Muna as a mix of "Mumans" and "Luna" but since renamed by the inhabitants to "Muma". The actual word "Muman" is a mix of "moon" and "Human.""
"Why are not all deceptions permitted?""Not all deceptions are permitted because they can do bad things to good people. I am not Darruth, but I too care for the greater good.
"Are the lowborn truly blocked from infiltrating our city now?"
"What do you think of truthful people?"
Nelin, an angel of Malakath, has created a socio-economic system reminiscent of communism as intended.Communism! That's what this totally new and original system of government shall be called!
The blood-interested Dwarves seem to think spilling blood literally is the highest form of worship and have begun to lose interest in Malakath, for better and for worse.Hmm.... Alright then. Blood-spilling shall officially be made the highest form of worship (for Dwarves) but only if it is between warriors or if it's a legitimate threat like a megabeast. Spilling the blood of civilians is so easy as to be rendered meaningless. Devotion must have meaning by definition.
Malakath has painted in her own face with her own blood on a random blood mural and enchanted it to grant it indestrucibility, positive soul resonance of some kind, and slight animation on blood moons.(It basically makes people feel good down to the deepest level. Not the Mystic Snow kind of good, but rather a kind of Buddhist zen feel or something. Not drowsy or inactive - just at peace. It actually kind of makes them a bit active so they don't just stand around looking at the mural all day.)
(Malakath: -1E)(Really? That actually cost me 1E? Shoot, and I was hoping that god blood from the blood god would be magical WITHOUT an Essence charge.)
Malakath (Souls, Blood): 10/22, 5-6(I was on 12E last Tick and I only spent 1E this Tick. Even discounting whatever Essence income I got this turn, I should be at 11 Essence minimum.)
"What is beauty?""Beauty is valuable only as a means to power. For every other purpose it is worthless."
"Are you in league with Azem?""As far as I know, I am not in league with Azem. why would you think that?"
"How can we improve our doors?""The answer to that question is quite simple; more, bigger and sharper blades."
"Gods and goddesses, it has come to our attention that people are making pacts with the Void for common, everyday things because they don't have access to magic. It is a vital necessity that we end this practice by allowing all sapients access to magic. Despite the ambiguous Essence cost listed for such a proposal, I believe that it will cost little to nothing if we were to enact it."Support
"While we're on the subject, I propose that Void-worshippers will not be able to use magic. If the Void wants a place in our universe, it'll have to abide by our laws."
At the new proposal, an open hand tentacle puts a thumb between up and down, wiggling back and forth between them. A new tentacle forms, making a kind of hook. An open hand-filled tentacle strikes another hand filled tentacle, connecting like they are clapping. Then the hands separate, as if they where about to scoop up water.Malakath hands Fusil a piece of paper and a pen.
I kinda want to see Lecty try to eat Tykki. Does that make me evil?
I kinda want to see Lecty try to eat Tykki. Does that make me evil?*nod*
I kinda want to see Lecty try to eat Tykki. Does that make me evil?*nod*
If my wish to see Lecty commit suicide makes me evil, what does that make you?
The energy blasts dissipate. At the end of the tentacles emerge what appear to be little Human girls. Then, with musical accompaniment, they start singing....
"Käse, Käse, wo ist die Käse?" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8Smccnscys)
"This is not how I expected a fight to begin. End it before I sue you both."
So, I propose this: a proposal will pass immediately if 3/4 of all active deities support it."I support this proposal in spirit but I oppose it in letter. We already have a rule that states any proposal with 80% proposal at Imminent Pass will be immediately passed. I propose we amend this rule that any proposal with the support of 80% of the other gods be passed immediately. In essence, this will have the same effect that you want, Joha, but at least we don't have a spare rule that can never be used. It's the principle of the matter, you see."
"I had just got done with a new toy so I wanted test it on something, afraid I forgot you were sending your angels to the city..""Also, I may or may not be responsible for the explosion, umm....sorry...about your new angels..." :-\How and why exactly did you cause the explosion?
"I had just got done with a new toy so I wanted test it on something, afraid I forgot you were sending your angels to the city.."
Propose we nuke the sun into nothingness, before it turns into a void monster.
:("KI` Tork I asked you if I could join your pantheon a while back and I`m afraid I can`t find your answer."
"And no I don't know something different, I just want to destroy the sun, ....it would be fun." :P
"Gods and goddesses, it has come to our attention that people are making pacts with the Void for common, everyday things because they don't have access to magic. It is a vital necessity that we end this practice by allowing all sapients access to magic. Despite the ambiguous Essence cost listed for such a proposal, I believe that it will cost little to nothing if we were to enact it."
"While we're on the subject, I propose that Void-worshippers will not be able to use magic. If the Void wants a place in our universe, it'll have to abide by our laws."
"That depends, Which sun are we talking about?""The Slythan sun that keeps acting weird. We might as well destroy it before it does something, besides what use is a sun anyway? The nasty thing is always spreading heat and driving back the cold!"
"That depends, Which sun are we talking about?""The Slythan sun that keeps acting weird. We might as well destroy it before it does something, besides what use is a sun anyway? The nasty thing is always spreading heat and driving back the cold!"
"Yes, but it seems so much simpler to just nuke the sun instead.""That depends, Which sun are we talking about?""The Slythan sun that keeps acting weird. We might as well destroy it before it does something, besides what use is a sun anyway? The nasty thing is always spreading heat and driving back the cold!"
Have you considered moving your followers to gass giant moons where it is hundret below freezzzing at all times of the year?
#2: 88 glass spiders have arrived to search for the inventor, who seems to have been deactivated and placed in a cell. They detect no significant Void influence. The heart seems to have a built-in pump and can theoretically pump liquids as dense as seawater, but it appears to have been designed to pump the rusty liquid infested with organics.An in-built pump. Remarkable. Did you think this up to emulate heartbeat of organic races? Nevertheless, while blood is rather unneccecary for Golems, fuel can verry well be used to retain mobility in cold regions for extended ammounts of time. Though in-built pump is not strictly required for inner heating chamber, it certainly would make regulating heat so much easyer. I believe you have just created the foundation for Golem exploration within cold regions of the planet. Well done.
Check up on what the Lords of Hunger are doing.
"How about we start a Pantheon, Because none can be Satisfied in ignorance.""YES!"
Propose we nuke the sun into nothingness, before it turns into a void monster.Oppose
I Support this proposal, but oppose making all sapients magic capable. A significant number of these beings could band together to oppose our godhood! That's an unacceptable potential."They are indirectly opposing our godhood specifically BECAUSE they don't have magic! Besides, most will only be able to do mundane things that people are making Void packs for. Also, I'd like to remind you that we're gods. If it ever gets to the point where they challenge our godhood - a nigh-impossible feat - then we can simply pass a proposal to take their magic away."
((Assuming that Ama's Deity is Carmine, Otherwise just switch Carmine to the actual Deity.))(Neron - God of Ice.)
"We shall replace the Slythan Sun with a Giant Lightbulb.""You shall not! This is your only warning!"
*shakes head tentacles* ::) :-\ >:(".....meanie..."
*Cocks guns*
"You could just create a brand new solar system somewhere. It might even be cheaper since you're not trying to move anything.""What do you say KI`Tork, want to create a new solar system?"
"YES! How about instead of having a heat based life network why not do the reverse, With cold temperatures growing crops and warmth killing mortals there, Yes I think that this shall work quite well, Any who Object may go and shut your trap holes. Neron Perhaps we should build it up gradually instead of all at once so that we aren't rendered powerless, I propose that we call the new solar system the Neronian-KI'Torkian Joint Land Ownership, Nikjol for short.""Perfect! You can make the new anti sun and then I will create the new planet. Also this is incase you need some more essence."
Propose we nuke the sun into nothingness, before it turns into a void monster.Oppose.
"Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it be like trying to blow out a fire by using a flamethrower on it?"Propose we nuke the sun into nothingness, before it turns into a void monster.Oppose.
"I don't think you understand the science of this."
"Yes, except it's actually trying to blow up a giant ball of nuclear plasma that constantly reacts to create a horrifying amount of energy by shooting a nuclear bomb into it.""Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it be like trying to blow out a fire by using a flamethrower on it?"Propose we nuke the sun into nothingness, before it turns into a void monster.Oppose.
"I don't think you understand the science of this."
Before going about nearly killing yourself with exhaustion, I suggest you take a look at the first few items on record, and look at how expensive worlds are to make."Ah yes. I had forgotten about your request. You have my assistance."
Then rethink your plan...
Also, Khaziraad, I believe I should be ready to begin with the various city projects. Having increased the members of my races, I have a feeling it will be rather important soon...
"I would like to remind the other gods and goddesses to vote on the proposal to grant magic to all sapients. Passing it would likely mean greater devotion to us and would weaken the Void's hold on the world."
"What's so wrong about mortal magic users?"
"Are you worried that they might be able to stand against advanced weaponry? Besides it would give the Mortals the means to solve their own problems."
"Are you worried that they might be able to stand against advanced weaponry? Besides it would give the Mortals the means to solve their own problems."
Abstain on 84.00; It could be good, it could be bad; I don't really like it as is, though. Sapience itself means if you make a statue sapient, even without a soul or conscience, it can use magic. No likey.[/b]"I'm not saying that only sapient beings can use magic, only that all sapient beings can use magic. The amount of non-sapients that can use magic will remain the same as it always was. I'm also rather sure that souls are required for sapience. Either it is intrinsic or it was decided that that is how it should be when the world was being created."
"Fusil, we'd be giving the mortals what they're already getting from the Void. The only difference is whether or not we want them to praise us or the Void for their magic."
"Fusil, You're preventing your followers from building magical gun factories, I hope you realize that before you down the proposal."
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Support 84.00
Help Darruth with the obelisks.
Creating a new solar system is quite interesting an idea, even before you factor in negative heat it gives off. But it is also increadibly expensive idea, far too expensive just for two of you. I may help out a bit if you want me to.
(Seriously, before you dedicate yourselves to any huge project, ask GMan abaut its cost.)
Hehe! I love charades!"The problem is that NON-mages are worshipping the Void simply so they can do magic."
Mortal mages worship us, making more into mages won't stop that.
I read Fusil's notes.
"May I read your notes Fusil?"
If Fusil says yes KI'Tork reads the notes, If he says no KI'Tork pouts as well as a giant pile of kitchen appliances can.
Fusil, mind if I read the notes?
"Animals can use magic? That's news to me.""Obviously not all animals and not even all types of animals. Occasionally, a powerful animal like a black dragon or a megabeast might have access to magic, and sometimes an animal with a strong soul or (relatively) high intelligence can have magic, like a warg. It wouldn't be traditional spell-casting as with normal magic - it would be more subtle and natural than that."
"Weren't all Megabeast struck down?""Animals can use magic? That's news to me.""Obviously not all animals and not even all types of animals. Occasionally, a powerful animal like a black dragon or a megabeast might have access to magic, and sometimes an animal with a strong soul or (relatively) high intelligence can have magic, like a warg. It wouldn't be traditional spell-casting as with normal magic - it would be more subtle and natural than that."
"It was an example, but yes.""Weren't all Megabeast struck down?""Animals can use magic? That's news to me.""Obviously not all animals and not even all types of animals. Occasionally, a powerful animal like a black dragon or a megabeast might have access to magic, and sometimes an animal with a strong soul or (relatively) high intelligence can have magic, like a warg. It wouldn't be traditional spell-casting as with normal magic - it would be more subtle and natural than that."
"Fusil, did your charade perhaps mean, 'don't do that. Check your worship and Essence pool. Read the Council records.'?""Looking through the Council records, I can see that the proposals to ban magic and to grant it in limited amounts were free proposals so he can't mean that. Why don't you just tell us what you mean?"
"Fusil, did your charade perhaps mean, 'don't do that. Check your worship and Essence pool. Read the Council records.'? I saw the gestures as 'disappointment,' 'denial,' 'worship/rhythm/disaster,' 'pool/safety/hold together,' 'record/note/knowledge.'"
*Shakes head and continues face-tentacle palming*"This is getting silly. Stop the charades and just talk to us! It's really easy, just look at what everyone else is doing! Start by saying your name. Fu. Sil. Fu-sil. Fusil. Now it's your turn."
79.05: Silence Fusil permanently
Propose changing Malkaths spheres to "greed" and "bad decisions".*Shakes head and continues face-tentacle palming*"This is getting silly. Stop the charades and just talk to us! It's really easy, just look at what everyone else is doing! Start by saying your name. Fu. Sil. Fu-sil. Fusil. Now it's your turn."
:-X"Don't be shy! We're your friends! You can talk in front of us."
Propose changing Malkaths spheres to "greed" and "bad decisions"."That's a bit random. Oppose."
Propose changing Malkaths spheres to "greed" and "bad decisions".
"Don't be shy! We're your friends! You can talk in front of us."
"There are silent methods of communication other than vague charades." "Text, for example."
"Now to the meat of the argument, before you make a mistake with the magic system. As I am apparently the only one to PICK UP A BOOK (Or, failing that, know what the word "Book" is in sign language) to figure out what Magic really is. All of this is compiled in my RESEARCH NOTES that I waved around in your face with none of you even subtly understanding my meaning.""So what was with the water and the clapping?"
"Every sapient and non-sapient has a soul""This is news to me, ironically. I'd known that all sentient/non-sapients had souls, but I was under the impression that non-sentients were completely without one."
"Not everyone is able to "shoot" this ammunition, for reasons I have not bothered to research.""I did, though. A long time ago when the world was new the elder gods were voting on the allowance of magic, started by Cim who voted that mortals should not have access to any magic at all. It was eventually decided that the number of magic-users would be artificially limited. THAT is why some people are born with magic and others aren't. Therefore, I oppose my proposal that would have apparently CREATED mana as concept. Instead, I propose that we lift the limitation placed by the elders so long ago in the Fourth Tick."
(Ok so here's what happened: I played a kind of minigame with KJP a long time ago (around November 4) where I took control of a group of adventurers on Azem's Island of Death. All of them were definitely using mana. I'd show proof of such events but for some reason, all messages I got from KJP relating to the minigame are gone. The messages I sent to him about it are still there but they don't mention mana. The point is that KJP put mana in a Ye Gods minigame and that's why I thought there was mana.)
"So what was with the water and the clapping?"
"This is news to me, ironically. I'd known that all sentient/non-sapients had souls, but I was under the impression that non-sentients were completely without one."
"I did, though. A long time ago when the world was new the elder gods were voting on the allowance of magic, started by Cim who voted that mortals should not have access to any magic at all. It was eventually decided that the number of magic-users would be artificially limited. THAT is why some people are born with magic and others aren't. Therefore, I oppose my proposal that would have apparently CREATED mana as concept. Instead, I propose that we lift the limitation placed by the elders so long ago in the Fourth Tick."
"I can't remember what I said. Every living thing has a soul, assuming it isn't a plant or something. So every animal has a soul. If I said anything else, I must have been partially blinded by the PURE RAGE SHEATHING FROM MY BODY!""You said that non-sapients have souls. The confusion arose from the fact that there are TWO types of living beings that are non-sapient: sentients and non-sentients. Sentients are not capable of worship but have free will. Non-sentients are neither capable of worship nor have free will."
"I do not remember that...What I remember has something to do with magic being tied to the stars. That never seemed to happen, the constellations ended up being separate from the sky. Cim had opposed it, but he was the only one. Everyone else fully supported it, without limitations. Unless Cim played a trick on the rest of us, we hadn't installed any limitations."
03.07.a: Focus on magic through gods, ban secular magic for mortals (1-7/12) [FAILED]
+1 from Cim
0 from Fusil, Kli
-7 from Anath, Azem, Serac, Varee, The Light, Khaziraad, Grauel
03.07.b: Allow magic for mortals at least in a limited amount (8-1/12)
+8 from Anath, Azem, Serac, Varee, Grauel, Kli , The Light, Khaziraad
-1 from Cim
As I said, I was worried about them banding together, not pitiful individuals who can only wipe a plate clean. What's to stop them from blocking our ability from removing their magic in this instance? Has there ever been such a confluence of magic-users before?I Support this proposal, but oppose making all sapients magic capable. A significant number of these beings could band together to oppose our godhood! That's an unacceptable potential."They are indirectly opposing our godhood specifically BECAUSE they don't have magic! Besides, most will only be able to do mundane things that people are making Void packs for. Also, I'd like to remind you that we're gods. If it ever gets to the point where they challenge our godhood - a nigh-impossible feat - then we can sitmply pass a proposal to take their magic away."
"But is there not a certain beauty in pain?""Ah. I see. I thought you were talking about beauty of the face. Pain could indeed be considered something beautiful, and pain must be cherished by both those who bring it and those who recieve it."
"Emeralds. All the emeralds.""Emeralds are something of my past. They are a memory that I both cherish and hate."
"My doors are not sharp enough! I must go!""I wish you the best of luck, follower."
As I said, I was worried about them banding together, not pitiful individuals who can only wipe a plate clean. What's to stop them from blocking our ability from removing their magic in this instance? Has there ever been such a confluence of magic-users before?"Not even anywhere close. Even if we gave everyone magic, if everyone combined their powers together, the'd only be able to stop one or two gods at the most from doing ONE thing."
We gain nothing by just giving them things. They have become misguided by the seemingly easy route of asking the Void for magic, for nothing in return. I propose that we encourage them to petition us for magic. At least then we can keep track of who has and hasn't got the ability to influence their environment beyond physical manipulation, and take steps should they become belligerent. I believe this will make them more favourable toward us, and fewer and fewer mortals will follow the Void."We gain a few things by giving them magic. Our artificial limiter might actually be dampening our Essence income - unlikely but possible - and mortals everywhere would greatly appreciate it. Even better is that they'll stop making Void backs. I oppose your proposal simply because I want mortals to be strong on their own. Even if we didn't get anything out of it - and so long as it didn't help the Void - I'd vote to give them magic anyway."
We should make and example out of some of the more prominent Void-worshippers, perhaps by exploding them into gibs or turning them stark raving mad. This will show the mortals that we don't appreciate them worshiping something as ambiguous as the Void over us gods, but at the same time making us seem merciful by not just arbitrarily punishing them all. Like you say, most of them can't do anything that grand anyway, so letting them know we don't like it by harshly punishing a handful, they'll stop."This isn't likely to work. Other gods have tried lesser punishments for the same crimes and all it did was make people dislike the gods more. If we're going to do this, it's best to ease into it with one proposal at a time. Blocking Void magic is the first step."
Malakath: Most of the royal families are hesitant to give so much power over their kingdoms to any god at all. A few accept, but only for non-heirs to be raised far away from the throne.All I need is a foothold. These children will make their families powerful, build me a few temples, and then all others will regret they declined my offer (because they missed out on great wealth and power). I'd better see how many of these gifts I can afford to give, though.
Neron: You have encouraged the creation of new Neronmas recipes and more ice-based food. Some cold-loving Kobolds have gone to the North to exchange cooking techniques."Interesting, would you mine asking a nearby NUKE scientist to check it out."
"A nearby volcano seems to have gotten more active."
"When will it be Neronmas again?"
"I have a special delivery. Cold [sic] you sign here?"
"Who do you think did it?"
"Right, except I wouldn't. I've just now reached 20E, so it's unlikely my essence capacity would come up when I only gained 2E over it for 1 tick. How bad are you at math, Fusil?""Who do you think did it?"
"You. You drained Serac's essence thinking I would not notice. If you hadn't used any essence, you would have had 21 capacity."
"Fortunafortunafortunafortuna YES!"
"Did you know I am so lucky I cannot ever die or grow old? Let's play cards!"
"We have been lucky to have such a high yields in this time of failure!""
"Not even anywhere close. Even if we gave everyone magic, if everyone combined their powers together, the'd only be able to stop one or two gods at the most from doing ONE thing."
"We gain a few things by giving them magic. Our artificial limiter might actually be dampening our Essence income - unlikely but possible - and mortals everywhere would greatly appreciate it. Even better is that they'll stop making Void backs. I oppose your proposal simply because I want mortals to be strong on their own. Even if we didn't get anything out of it - and so long as it didn't help the Void - I'd vote to give them magic anyway."
"This isn't likely to work. Other gods have tried lesser punishments for the same crimes and all it did was make people dislike the gods more. If we're going to do this, it's best to ease into it with one proposal at a time. Blocking Void magic is the first step."
"Right, except I wouldn't. I've just now reached 20E, so it's unlikely my essence capacity would come up when I only gained 2E over it for 1 tick. How bad are you at math, Fusil?"
"Who doesn't hate Fusil? My, that is a tough question.Quote"Right, except I wouldn't. I've just now reached 20E, so it's unlikely my essence capacity would come up when I only gained 2E over it for 1 tick. How bad are you at math, Fusil?"
"It seems to be working fine for other Gods with similar essence capacity. Like the God of Blood. Do you have another who would even act as a possible culprit for all this random death and destruction? The drownings, the disease, and now this?"
"I don't care how everyone else seems to ignore the diseases and other assaults on their followers. I don't yet know if this was a way to get around my plague defenses, or a foolish act by a stupid God for an unknowable reason.""I actually asked which god or gods were responsible for the plagues and the Oracle said no god was responsible - the same answer Tykki got. Perhaps the Lich is attacking races that are devout in their worship? Humans to Yaos, Kobolds to KI'Tork, and now the Armu to you."
You also claim you want mortals to be strong on their own, yet you want to give them the use of magic? A literal gift from the gods?"Technically, we wouldn't be giving them magic so much as giving them back magic. Magic isn't drawn from the gods (except for Divine magic) - it's drawn from the soul itself."
Perhaps we should be looking at the reasons why the mortals are making their pacts with the Void. If it's just magic, then yes, blocking Void-worshipers magic will more than likely put a stop to any further Void-worship. If it's something else, something insidious, it won't make a difference, therefore we will need to punish people."We have no proof that the widespread use of Void pacts is for anything other than magic. There are some Void worshippers that use their power for great evil but they're systematically destroyed by mortal governments and even other, more moderate Void cults."
Support 85.04"But why!?"
NEW PROPOSAL: Any Proposal Action that negatively effects a Deity without their consent for no reason should auto-fail.Support
"Who doesn't hate Fusil? My, that is a tough question.
Varee may not be as inactive as you think."
"I actually asked which god or gods were responsible for the plagues and the Oracle said no god was responsible - the same answer Tykki got. Perhaps the Lich is attacking races that are devout in their worship? Humans to Yaos, Kobold to KI'Tork, and now the Armu to you."
"Parasitic Monsters, That is rather unsettling, Hopefully they won't be able to spread to Nikjol, What kind of Preventive Measures should we take Fusil? You're the Weapons Deity, What should we fight them with?"
"Sorry, bit of a joke there. For real now."Oppose 85.04Support 85.04"But why!?"NEW PROPOSAL: Any Proposal Action that negatively effects a Deity without their consent for no reason should auto-fail.Support
"No, you fool. She messed with her words. What she said to Tykki was "No God was responsible for the plagues that killed 1/4 of three races". The plague had killed 1/4 of two races, the Gruen had less casualties due to sheer size if anything. As such, no god caused such plagues because she put qualifiers on them that mad the statement false. She could just have easily said five races, or six races, and it would have been just as false. A correct question to ask would have been 'who caused the plague that wiped out 1/4 of humanity' or a similar question, but I feel she would have weaseled her way out of that as well.""Ah, the Gruen. I knew I was forgetting a race. It seems to fit the pattern of targeting races devoted to a god. In any case, my question was different from Tykki's but the answer was pretty much the same."
I ask for the identity or identities of the god(s) responsible for the last few magical plagues.
Oracle: "No god was responsible for all of the last three magical plagues.""And they WERE magical in nature."
"But what if they mutate or crop up again? What if this is only the start? This is very unsettling and we should at least take countermeasures, If nothing else."
"Fusil, we can all say it's impossible, but when was the last time someone actually checked? How do we know he hasn't been freed or randomly escaped and started committing random acts?
Also, last time I checked, the only God who hates everyone else is YOU."
"Ah, the Gruen. I knew I was forgetting a race. It seems to fit the pattern of targeting races devoted to a god. In any case, my question was different from Tykki's but the answer was pretty much the same."
"And they WERE magical in nature."
"Have you checked the Seal? Even if it is intact, do we know that Varee is still in there?"
"This is sad. Do I need to prove I didn't do it again?"Have you checked the Seal? Even if it is intact, do we know that Varee is still in there?"
"Yes. He is still sealed. You are the murderer. You will not escape your punishment by pretending he did it."
"Yes, the answer was almost the same. This could mean that it was a separate God who did one of the plagues. As the first two had the same modus operendi, it is possible someone assumed the God of Hunger caused the first plague and wanted to get revenge in a similar manner. Or he could only be responsible for part of it, getting help from something else, from the Void to a mortal. It simply doesn't answer the question, and isn't even specific enough to grant any new information.""I think Occam's Razor should apply here. What's more likely, that a single or multiple gods have conspired to kill scores of followers of other gods for no discernible reason or that the Lich - a powerful, angel-killing, god-hating necromancer - unleashed a few plagues on god-loving races closely associated with their deities?"
"I think Occam's Razor should apply here. What's more likely, that multiple gods have conspired to kill scores of followers of other gods for no discernible reason or that the Lich - a powerful, angel-killing, god-hating necromancer - unleashed a few plagues on god-loving races closely associated with their deities."
"This Lich is centuries old by now and has probably had a lot of time to come up with such a plague. With the help of some of her own followers it's not out of the question that she'd be able to unleash such powerful plagues after every few Ticks. The price for the truth of the Lich is 5 Essence. I thought about taking it down to 3 Essence or just 1 in this time of crisis but then I remembered that you're VOTING TO TAKE MY SPHERES AWAY.""I'll buy it for 3 essence. I opposed that proposal. Let us discuss this away from Fusil."
"Grauel do you wish to attend my feast, It should prove quite the challenge for my followers to Satisfy the God of Hunger himself."
Malakath: Most of the royal families are hesitant to give so much power over their kingdoms to any god at all. A few accept, but only for non-heirs to be raised far away from the throne.They consciously plan for their unborn child to be raised away from the place where they would do the most good. Unwise, really, but still, I grant one such family a Magical Child, to be recognised by a colourful mark on the back of their left hand. Who is the child born to, on what planet, what gender are they, and what sphere do they influence? The sphere will never be anything associated with the Void and it won't be one already covered by a god.
"It was so peaceful for awhile there..."It's a shame Fusil got his voice back. Should we go back on that?
Rather than have all this fuss, why not ask the Oracle the following question?
'Which Gods have been responsible for causing magical plagues?'
Wouldn't that force some sort of answer out of her, one way or another?
As well, I don't particularly like drugs, particularly not highly addictive and debilitating ones, Malakath. Distribute it in my cities only if you wish to make me angry very quickly.
"So Joha, do you want to start a pantheon together?"Not really.
As well, I don't particularly like drugs, particularly not highly addictive and debilitating ones, Malakath. Distribute it in my cities only if you wish to make me angry very quickly."That wasn't even close to what I was thinking. It was just a question that I found to be morally grey and I wanted your opinion, that's all. Personally, I have a negative opinion of it but I'm not sure if It'd be right to do something as ban its use."
Cim transports the commotion-causing statue in the Armu city to an uninhabited area.
"I was once offered a Void pact to create a statue of weapons and place it in an Armu city as relay for Void energy. I rejected that offer, but it seems someone didn't."
"I have two questions. One is a general question and one is for Fusil. The general question is this: why did we vote against destroying all Void things in the Bubble? As for you Fusil, what is your stance on making artifact weaponry for other gods?"
EDIT: This generation of Magical Children will be entirely female. There is a legitimate point to this, but it's not right to reveal all just yet. Dead Magicals will go to Heaven and won't reincarnate until all the other Magicals have died.
"I did not vote either way. The threatening Void things are incapable of being destroyed, except by the ones who made them. The things you hope to destroy either could be easily replaced or provided valuable information on how cults work. In any case, it wouldn't help. That is not a way to effectively go about fighting the Void. At worse, it might bring more attention to our bubble, rather then drawing them away.""Two things about that proposal. First, part of the proposal required that ALL gods help in removing the objects, thus, they would have been destroyed whether the Void-aligned among us would've wanted to or not. The second is that I made another proposal which would've only destroyed things like temples, monuments, and statues - things that don't provide any information on the Void whatsoever and only help with spreading their influence."
"I am fine making cheap, essentially standard, weapons for other Gods or worthy mortals. They don't typically have any impressive powers, unless the other God wants to provide them itself. Things like the "Emperor's" sword are fine. Except for you, I will charge you five essence. I will lower it to three essence, because discount.""Oh, um, thank you! I guess. I was under the impression you didn't like me. It's good that we're ok, though. To be honest, I don't really have anything against you. The last proposal really was crossing a line, but I'm guessing that's why I'm getting the discount, right?"
(The Godess of Blood making an all Female army? Well, once a month I suppose...)(If that was in character, I'd be pretty offended. I'm still kind of offended but whatever. But no, the Goddess of Blood is not making an all-female army, even discounting the small numbers of "soldiers" in this "army". Here's a hint: I plan to make 20 Magical Girls.)
The monsters at the Armu capital have abruptly become more lethal!
"Two things about that proposal. First, part of the proposal required that ALL gods help in removing the objects, thus, they would have been destroyed whether the Void-aligned among us would've wanted to or not. The second is that I made another proposal which would've only destroyed things like temples, monuments, and statues - things that don't provide any information on the Void whatsoever and only help with spreading their influence."
"Oh, um, thank you! I guess. I was under the impression you didn't like me. It's good that we're ok, though. To be honest, I don't really have anything against you. The last proposal really was crossing a line, but I'm guessing that's why I'm getting the discount, right?"
(If that was in character, I'd be pretty offended. I'm still kind of offended but whatever. But no, the Goddess of Blood is not making an all-female army, even discounting the small numbers of "soldiers" in this "army". Here's a hint: I plan to make 20 Magical Girls.)
Malakath has created Magic Childness and given it to a non-heir of royal birth who has yet to be born. The child seems to be aligned with Forgiveness. The family rules a Luminee kingdom on Slytha.(Got ninja'd by you. Was also gonna make it a Keshan-only thing but this'll work.) Forgiveness? That's a useless sphere. Reroll. It's not that Luminee kingdom is it? You know, the one with the one dude and the Lady and all? *wink wink* *nudge nudge*
At the moment, none of the ones containing necromancers use Malakathite necromancy or soul magic, having been cut off for so long. Bandit strongholds exist in various places and are even backed by Bandit Unions in some areas. There are about a thousand Mumans. The Gruen retain a caste system and the Armu are less interested in having a bloody internal revolt than in causing one in other states.Cut off from what? "Malakathite" necromancy? Necromancy (capital 'N') was renamed to Soul magic and expanded upon, making traditional necromancy a branch of the Soul attunement. I didn't create my own brand of necromancy and old necromancy still exists as a branch of Soul magic. (The same way that fire magic exists as a branch of Elemental magic.) Bandit unions? What do they do and why are they allowed to exist? How many Mumans were there before Glorious Revolution?
"It isn't that simple. Breaking Void pacts like that is not simple, even if it worked it would mean all of the punishments coming into the bubble at once. Temples, monuments, and statues show us quite handily where the Void cultists are meeting. As you may know, it is easier to tell if the people are trying to make a Summoning Ritual if they have their name on the building.""The problem is that these temples and monuments are commonly what get people into Void-worship in the first place, thus doing more bad than good. What's so bad if a few cultists manage to summon a manifestation anyway? The last manifestation was destroyed in an almost comically simple fashion and If I remember correctly there were few to no mortal deaths."
I have been saving that off color joke for a while, and had to release it some time! Is the answer "The Expy rule killed your family and you are slapping it as hard as you can"?(I have no idea what you're talking about...)
"The problem is that these temples and monuments are commonly what get people into Void-worship in the first place, thus doing more bad than good. What's so bad if a few cultists manage to summon a manifestation anyway? The last manifestation was destroyed in an almost comically simple fashion and If I remember correctly there were few to no mortal deaths."
(I have no idea what you're talking about...)
"Do you know anything about how Void worship works? From what I can tell, the mundane churches do nothing to increase Void worship. If you are going to make a token effort at fighting something, at least understand your enemy first. The last manifestation was obviously holding back. It was apparent to anyone fighting it, especially me. If it had even made an effort to fight back, the entire town would have been destroyed. And that was one summoned by one mortal, who died in the fighting. Something powerful enough, like the increased activity that was noticed world wide, would be utterly devastating if manifested. Even if it does hold back. Have you read up on the history of how to suppress religions? Religions are stronger than statues and churches and altars, removing them will not remove the actual threat. Once again, you are trying to treat the symptom rather than the disease.""When the disease is a crazed maniac stabbing and slashing at everyone in sight and the symptom is people bleeding out, then it's appropriate to treat the symptoms. In fact, it's always appropriate to treat the symptoms. It's not a case of either/or - you do both. Unfortunately, we have no way to stop this disease so symptom-treating is the best we can do. Hey Darruth, can you tell us which gods have been communicating with the Void recently?"
(Bandit guilds have been mentioned a few times Andres. I blame Mountwyrms. Out of curiosity, what were you doing on the island of Death and Riches that necessitated a mini-game?)(Yeah but I always forget what they do. I sent Lette there in disguise so she can be awesome and then attribute her awesomeness to Yaos when it was really her angelness. The only thing that happened was me trying to get past a door by solving a puzzle which I failed entirely. Then Telialas was made and she was called back. She was also with a group of random adventurers so that there would be witnesses to her awesomeness but, as mentioned before, nothing happened.)
"Hey Darruth, can you tell us which gods have been communicating with the Void recently?""I don't see why he would know that, but I can tell I did communicate with a Null a couple Ticks ago. I tried to decipher its motives, though the attempt was fruitless. By the way, Malakath, can you tell me anything about a certain woman who has been hearing voices, possibly from you?"
Grauel has attended the feast and begun eating the many worthy offerings given. A portal has appeared and disappeared above Grauel, and an arrow has flown in and embedded itself where a head would be in a humanoid. Grauel seems to be unharmed. The arrow is covered with carvings of the word "FUSIL."
"I don't see why he would know that, but I can tell I did communicate with a Null a couple Ticks ago. I tried to decipher its motives, though the attempt was fruitless. By the way, Malakath, can you tell me anything about a certain woman who has been hearing voices, possibly from you?""His angels are capable of intercepting communications between deities/angels and the Void. All he can do is know that they're communicating at all, though. I have no idea about any woman hearing voices."
"The statue is not yours, then, Fusil? Destroy it or do whatever you want to it. It was in your city, after all. I wouldn't allow mortals too close to it, however."
Fusil, I have an interest in examining these parasites, would you mind me sending some agents to assist and collect samples?
A group of Frozen Guard are sent to capture a group of these monsters and take them back to NUKE. They are to be studied and used in various tests.
"Fusil, What will we do about the parasites? You never answered my question."
"What if they overrun your defense? I know such a possibility is preposterous but we need to be prepared!"
Hey Darruth, can you tell us which gods have been communicating with the Void recently?"I could, yes. However, I feel it is, at this stage, rather irrelevant, as I have my doubts as to KI'Tork being able or desirous of creating a statue that would annoy Fusil. He's not that stupid.
Additionally, more than a few gods communicated with the void in the past dozen ticks or so, so the 'evidence' would serve more to make him a scapegoat than anything else. Plus, the parasites afflicting Fusil's followers - by the way, Fusil, I would offer my help but a. you don't like me and would probably spurn it anyway b. seem to have the situation under control and c. at this point, with the angels I have, and the fact that they aren't Void to be oblitered by Viminal, I'd get in the way more than anything. If you'd like, I could protect your followers to try and keep any more of them from dying in the fighting. I'm not certain if that's needed at this point, however.
Finally, I will say this: Fusil, you would probably charge me or Cim for those weapons as well, correct? Or is it just because you, like the rest of us, are annoyed the Essence-grubbing nature Malakath seems to share with the late Yaos?
"And now I know in what area I should improve on as a person. It would've been appreciated if someone said 'Malakath, your constant money-grubbing is annoying me and other gods. Please stop.' In any case, consider my money-grubbing to have ended."QuoteFinally, I will say this: Fusil, you would probably charge me or Cim for those weapons as well, correct? Or is it just because you, like the rest of us, are annoyed the Essence-grubbing nature Malakath seems to share with the late Yaos?
"It is the second one. If he is going to charge for nothing, so will I. Though you could obviously never trust anything I built for an enemy, nobody would blame me for putting hidden enchantments on it."
The lucky man seems not to be cheating.
"It's been 777 years at least! I can definitely take you on and win!"
"Cim, I was wondering, did you do anything with Ärž (that magic aluminum ring I gave you that makes it's wearer invulnerable)? If not, I'll buy it back from you for 2 essence. I was going to put a protection spell on a prophet of mine, but then I realized that it would be cheaper if I could buy that back. What do you say?""I gave it to a follower. It has provided me with such insights, I won't let it go, at least right now."
Azem once held the title of god of greed, but he moved on to wealth as we noticed that Yaos was far more bucaneeringly oportunistic. But even at his worst Yaos couldn't even hold a candle to you.
As rare as it is, Fusil is absolutely right in what he said abaut your Blood pacts.
"Hey Darruth, can you tell us which gods have been communicating with the Void recently?"
Fusil, abaut that void statue, may I borrow it for a moment? I made Kyloth's hammer with intention of it being able to (eventualy) destroy anything, and I would like to test that on void construct.
I believe I had expresed reasons why I dislike you Malkath, but I shall go over them again and add some clarification."Thank you."
You took Yaosian angels (something you had no right to), and started selling information abaut Yaos (something that was not yours)."The first Yaosian angel I killed was purely an accident. I just happened to be born in the same place it was at the time. I had no choice in the matter. The second one was an act of self-defence, and I was really rather confused at the time. I'd just been born, there was another soul inside of me, I was getting a flood of memories I wasn't prepared for, and now I was being attacked. I acted on reflex and ate the angels soul. I have since adjusted my reflexes. You can confirm all this with the Oracle, I'm even willing to give 1 Essence to help pay for it."
Fusil was right, but he didin't say all the detriments. Blood pacts create mistrust among those who use them and destroy souls for no reason. Even though it changing that would not invalidate other reasons why Blood pacts are terrible, there is hardly a reason to not use death instead of soul destruction as punnishment. Fusil noted how useless they are to propr society, but he did not mention how they would affect those outside society. Bandits can now be better organised than ever, because they can have unbreakable oaths, and trust was never an issue becouse they never had any. Assassins now can't just take money andd run if they judge their target unworthy of death."This is something I definitely want to change. I like the idea of a bond strong enough that it confers tangible benefits to the people involved so I don't want to get rid of blood bonds completely, but I agree it should be changed. One thing I'd like to clarify is that the souls don't get destroyed. Depending on the pact they either go to the Shadow Plane or they fall in an endless - though extremely comfortable - sleep within me."
And of course, there was the time when you destroyed souls of my followers for expresing their distaste of your methods."And I was entirely out of line for doing that. We both were, actually, but I definitely more. They shouldn't have murdered my angels as a way of expressing distaste - first, simply telling them to stop would've been enough, and second, they were being moderate in their attempts to inform people about me - but my permanently destroying their souls was far worse. I've looked into ways I could bring them back but seeing as it's impossible, the best I could do was give a public apology for my actions."
But you are trying (or you say that you are) and I am willing to give you a chance. You want a castle, you get a castle."Thank you very much."
Create a castle of Eudialyte and Marble for Lectys upcoming knight order."I'm not sure if I have the right to request anything but I'd prefer function over form if possible, unless you're making the marble wall-quality with god powers. As for the red colouring, I could probably handle that myself with cloth implements like flags and draperies."
"Seeing as Cim is best friends with whoever created it, he would probably be able to tell us that anyway.""I'm afraid I can't get an honest answer to a question that specific. I can try, but I wouldn't trust a Null enough to jump to a conclusion."
"I'm afraid I can't get an honest answer to a question that specific. I can try, but I wouldn't trust a Null enough to jump to a conclusion."
Create a castle of Eudialyte and Milky Quart instead."I'm...guessing...this is...worse? I'll accept it."
"You stated that a Null offered you a similar job. If you know what Null that is, it is likely that one...""Ah, I thought you were looking for the God. The Null who offered me the pact was 'eehytlcafhshaes, "Evie", my primary contact with the Liminals."
(Was I just charged 3E for model castle or is that knight being silly?)(This I would like to know. I'm all set to create my knights barring this. So long as the castle's material doesn't degrade any worse than normal materials I'd be fine. Who'd be insane enough to besiege the castle of supersoldiers whose patron is a literal god anyway?)
"Ah, I thought you were looking for the God. The Null who offered me the pact was 'eehytlcafhshaes, "Evie", my primary contact with the Liminals."
((Edit: Evie = Smith of Order))
A powerful temporal shudder rocks the Bubble.
The monsters at the Armu capital have become even more dangerous! Additionally, sightings have been confirmed in large Human cities and many random places!
Q: "Who created the parasites that Tykki is curently fighting?"
A: "KI'Tork."
(Was I just charged 3E for model castle or is that knight being silly?)
(You asked the question, remember?)
For the oracle, I still have my one free question. Let's give it a try.
Cim, I am rather interested in Evie, if what Fusil said is right and it indeed created same hammer that Kyloth uses. Could you put us into contact?"I will ask, although it will most likely take a Tick or two for it to forge another communication artifact, or it might reject. I urge you to always be wary and skeptical when dealing with the Null, however. This is at your own risk."
"These new pets are awesome!""Ah yes, the monsters in the Armu cities make great pets indeed."
"There is no one left to torture in our funhouse.""Torture yourself! It'll be fun!"
"They lied about the bed of nails! It's too comfortable!""Just heat the nails for half an hour and then cover them in lemon juice. It's gonna sting."
KI'Tork suddenly grins and looks at Grauel.
"I HAVE FILLED THE GOD OF GLUTTONY HIMSELF!!!!!!"
"Sure, why not?"
The dude throws the cards in the air, and they end up landing in order. He snickers, shuffles the deck, and cuts it as requested.
"You go first, divine one!"
"I secretly created a prototype physical kitchen spirit to enhance the feast and possibly even fill Grauel but a Void Entity stole them and proceeded to corrupt their design to the point that they became monstrosities and then unleashed them on the Armu, I can't imagine why they would have attacked one of the only races capable of easily rebuffing their attacks.I kept it secret because I didn't want a mortal panic. The Essence I spent the last few turns was an attempt to reduce their numbers but apparently the Thief that stole them keeps creating more, But to an extent I suppose that the Oracle was correct, After all I did originally create the Prototypes although I certainly didn't intend for them to be used like this!"
KI'Tork goes into a bloody rage and all nearby gods and mortals suddenly feel quite stuffed.
"I shall create a cure to oppose this corruption!"
KI'Tork attempts to create an antidote to reduce the spread of the Parasites and proceeds to smite large gatherings of them.
"Neron, It might be a little while before we can finish our Solar System for obvious reasons."
Cim, I am rather interested in Evie, if what Fusil said is right and it indeed created same hammer that Kyloth uses. Could you put us into contact?
"Fusil, the Void doesn't need to go through gods to affect the world anymore. Yaos' associate who talked with the Void wasn't a god. The Lich who is acting as a medium for the Void to work through isn't a god. A long time ago when the world was new they would've had to go through gods but not anymore. Now they're firmly anchored into our Bubble via monuments and temples. Yes, that's what temples are for. Without them, they wouldn't have even been able to properly communicate with us."
"Your policy of ignoring the Void is only allowing the problem to get worse. If penalties are dealt to the gods who built them for removing the temples and monuments before they're allowed to then so be it. It's their own fault, after all."
"The Oracle said the Lich was causing these weird temporal shudders, probably to create these weird monsters.""This added to the fact that the Lich stated that she was neutral towards the Void leads me to think she has some part in it. Alone, she wouldn't have been able to corrupt a god's creation but it's definitely a possibility once the Void gets involved. I'm willing to put 1E into asking the Oracle about how the much the Lich is involved."
"The Oracle said the Lich was causing these weird temporal shudders, probably to create these weird monsters.""This added to the fact that the Lich stated that she was neutral towards the Void leads me to think she has some part in it. Alone, she wouldn't have been able to corrupt a god's creation but it's definitely a possibility once the Void gets involved. I'm willing to put 1E into asking the Oracle of how the Lich is involved."
"I'm not trying to cover for him, I just think that we should assess the situation more carefully before we kill a god. God-killing should not be an affair to be taken so casually. Just ask the oracle 'Are the parasites being mutated and/or propagated against KI'Tork's will?' and I'll be satisfied. (I can see the irony.) I'm willing to help pay for the answer."
"I'm a bit low on Essence so I don't want to pay in full. Also, how big are these parasites? How do these parasites even work? Do they force their host to attack the uninfected? To they feed off of their hosts, reproduce inside of them, and then exit their now-dead host? Why don't the Armu just fly into space? Surely the parasites can't survive in space."
EDIT: "Looking through the records, Cim and Grauel spent a lot of Essence on some secret actions. I'm not implying anything but it's interesting to note."
"He will be punished at my hands for his sins.""Over my dead body, will you harm him."
"If they dropped that many essence into this, we would have something that was probably just as if not more powerful then Yaos's Stone Men or the Demon invasion.""I sold the information of Yaos' involvement in those to events to Azem. I recommend you ask him for the info. In any case, I wasn't implying anything. I just thought it was noteworthy."
"He will be punished at my hands for his sins.""Over my dead body, will you harm him."
"I sold the information of Yaos' involvement in those to events to Azem. I recommend you ask him for the info. In any case, I wasn't implying anything. I just thought it was noteworthy."
"For now...""I am more then powerful enough to defeat you both. If you get in my way, you will be knocked aside easily.""He will be punished at my hands for his sins.""Over my dead body, will you harm him."
"Tread lightly Fusil. For every one God you push around, 2 enemies you may make."He will be punished at my hands for his sins.""Over my dead body, will you harm him."
"I am more then powerful enough to defeat you both. If you get in my way, you will be knocked aside easily."Quote"I sold the information of Yaos' involvement in those to events to Azem. I recommend you ask him for the info. In any case, I wasn't implying anything. I just thought it was noteworthy."
"Hardly. They do things like this all the time."
"Tread lightly Fusil. For every one God you push around, 2 enemies you may make."
"This has nothing to do with you Goodness.""Tread lightly Fusil. For every one God you push around, 2 enemies you may make."
Funny, considering I could say the same to you. Was there a purpose to your threat, or were you just trying to amuse yourself by seeing if you could provoke me?
"Neither does his army stationed at my doorstep prepared to slaughter innocents. He conveniently forgot to mention that, I guess.""This has nothing to do with you Goodness.""Tread lightly Fusil. For every one God you push around, 2 enemies you may make."
Funny, considering I could say the same to you. Was there a purpose to your threat, or were you just trying to amuse yourself by seeing if you could provoke me?
"Neither does his army stationed at my doorstep prepared to slaughter innocents. He conveniently forgot to mention that, I guess.""This has nothing to do with you Goodness.""Tread lightly Fusil. For every one God you push around, 2 enemies you may make."
Funny, considering I could say the same to you. Was there a purpose to your threat, or were you just trying to amuse yourself by seeing if you could provoke me?
"No need to worry, and don't get excited, Fusil. I can handle him, and attempted to do so with discretion, but it appears he wishes to take this public."
Exciting events indeed. A teleporting arrow struck me before as well but it didn't hurt and I was eating so I ignored it. Must be a fad or something.Hey, someone shot a vine arrow at me through a portal too!
Despite a recently passed proposal banning the use of magic among Void-worshippers, Void influence has more than doubled on both worlds."I had an idea something like this would happen. If it really would've weakened the Void then they would've done something to prevent it. Anyone have any idea what's going on? Maybe we should roll back the proposal?"
Malakath has created 300 000 Tailwyrms between Keshan and Slytha around the castle recently built by Khaziraad and started the creation of the order of the Knights of Restoration. (I'm not alert enough to trust my brain to produce reasonable names.)(I originally wanted them to be split between the two worlds but then I just decided to have them build their city around the castle and I forgot to edit out the Keshan/Slythan part. Also, the actual knights themselves were specifically created and are multi-racial. The 300,000 Tailwyrms I made were extra.)
Another order of knights, the Knights of the Burning Day, have formed on the same day far away from the Knights of Restoration. Somehow, they know of the Knights of Restoration and look down on them.
Malakath has begun fighting the parasites in person on Keshan with 50 Bellatores. Many of the parasites appear not to have souls and soon manage to implant themselves in 15 Bellatores, who seem to have become slightly magical parasites. The ones that do have souls are mostly degraded to the point where eating them feels like a Human eating paper.
Oracle"The problem here is that either "manipulated" could be interpreted to also mean destroyed, damaged, injured, etc. or it could mean that he had the Void help him with their creation and evolution, thus being manipulated by something other than KI'Tork."
Q: "I ask you, have KI'Tork's parasites been manipulated by forces other than himself?"
A: "Yes."
86.00: Lift the limitation on magic (3-2/16) [PASSED]"I guess it's always been this way even before this proposal was passed but I guess I'm the defacto goddess of Magic the same way a goddess of Alcohol is defacto goddess of Beer."
"Over 50 Ticks ago, we passed a proposal to form a committee for safe Void research. I say we should try and actually do that. I volunteer to be part of this committee, but would anyone else like to try to learn how the universe works, firsthand and without resorting to uncertain knowledge from sources unknown?"
Fortuna has drawn K♠. The lucky man has drawn J♠.
Bandits continue not to attack the traders, surprisingly. It may be a result of luck of some sort.
"Hello I'm KI'Tork, God Of Kitchens And Satisfaction.Myself and all of the other resident Deities here are battling horrific parasitic monstrosities that I accidentally created, if you want we can start a Pantheon."
Hello, Raptil!
My advice: don't make anyone want to kill you. Especially not Fusil.
I wouldn't be too surprised if a civil war erupted at some point in the near future among the council.
A large peregrine falcon comes in to land amid the other gods, and transforms seamlessly into Raptil's human form."Welcome to the Council. My name is Lord Malakath Vandire Sephir Lecta, Goddess of Souls and Blood. You'll find that I'm one of the more diplomatic gods here, meaning I will not prevent you from spreading your religion. Currently, we're dealing with some very dangerous parasites that have been killing large numbers of civilians. I recommend you fight them either by yourself or with angels. Don't bring mortals into the fight."
Alright, what's going on?
I wouldn't be too surprised if a civil war erupted at some point in the near future among the council."I'd say a civil war is unlikely. Gods here are switching sides constantly depending on the topic at hand - not a bad thing, actually - and after the last civil war's anti-climactic ending I don't think anyone's looking for an encore."
"Welcome new god, my name is Neron, God of Ice and Snow!""I recommend you keep your wits about Neron. He's a bit shifty."
KI'Tork turns towards Malakath."I have never drunk a single drop of blood in my entire life and I am very honest and open about my soul-eating. That reminds me of the reforms I have to make. I'll think them up ((write them down)) now."
"You Call Neron Shifty, When You're the Goddess of blood and souls and Regularly Consume Both! Hypocrisy!"
"Now that introductions are finished, I have a very important question for you. Are you a boy or a girl?"Professor Iris, we are gods! Gender is not applicable to us, so I don't see how that is an important question.
"Harrumph!""....Is this a natural god sound or are you choking?"
"Gender can most certainly be applicable to us! Are you saying I am any less of a woman just because I'm a god?!""Now that introductions are finished, I have a very important question for you. Are you a boy or a girl?"Professor Iris, we are gods! Gender is not applicable to us, so I don't see how that is an important question.
"Me shifty...you are the goddess that killed a spy, you gave me, so that I would not learn what ISAY is studying.""I only gave you that spy because I thought it originally belonged to you! The honest thing to do was to return it back to ISAY. Since ISAY then allowed me to take them over, I decided to take back what was rightfully mine."
"By killing him and destroying the mind of an innocent guard.""Yes by killing him and....what? Destroyed his mind? No, that can't be possible. I only used some hypnosis on him. Hypnosis doesn't break minds, not unless there was some pre-created spell or construct that would intentionally break the mind of the hypnotised. Or maybe the mind was artificially made more fragile. There has to be another reason."
A large peregrine falcon comes in to land amid the other gods, and transforms seamlessly into Raptil's human form.
Alright, what's going on?Spoiler: Raptil (click to show/hide)
"A hateful new law has made it so they pass far to quickly to properly talk about them, voting swiftly is in your best interest.""It takes a minimum of 3 Ticks before a proposal is passed barring overwhelming support. Personally, I feel that takes too long."
"Despite what the others told you, making your own race is the best way to get followers, trying to convert aligned races to your cause is less effective and annoys the gods of whom you are stealing from.""This is certainly the best way to get followers, but there is nothing wrong with enhancing the quality of life of other gods' followers if they include you in their worship. Personally, I care more about my followers' quality of life than I do about their unwavering loyalty. Other gods are more selfish, though, so be careful."
"Hello Raptil! Welcome to our world!I've never been searching for it. My Angels have been staying exactly where they teleported in. Why did you think I was searching for it at any point?
KI'Tork, Àrenne, also known as the Hidden City, is the High-Elf capitol. It houses over the majority of all High-Elves in existence, which is why Darruth having his army search for it slightly worries me. Now that the cities of "Good" are being attacked by the Void, maybe he'll pack up and go home."
Additionally, yes, now that these parasites have become a global issue, I will be forced to take action. Speaking of which...Azem, Khaziraad, and anyone else who wants to get rid of these blasted things, would you please assist me?"The Humans don't have a patron deity any more. Don't you think you should've started helping at least since the last Tick?"
Propose that the Slythan sun be anti-Void, the same way the Keshan dust ring is. Since this is a grand action, ALL gods must contribute to this proposal if it passes.
Create 3 Million Sentinels. Varying types. Go to WAR on the parasites. My priests will work to help cleanse those unfortunate souls infected, if they can be saved. They shall do so in safety, with the appropriate wards and protective enchantments cast on them beforehand.
"Oppose. I am not paying for something that has proven to be ineffective. It will only set us down the wrong road. Has the dust ring shown to be useful in any way? Making the sun a target is also a bad idea. Even if you wanted to go this route, there are better things to put the enchantment on.""Firstly, the dust ring is small and weak and as such its removal of Void Influence is slow and similarly weak. The sun is large and powerful and as such its anti-Void properties will be much more potent, reflected in its price. Secondly, how will it set us down the wrong road? It would completely remove all of the Void's power in the system. No mutations, no contact with the Void, no manifestation-summoning, nothing. Thirdly, I am making some Nature Spirits that will guard the sun and warn us if anyone is going to attack it. Now, what do you mean by "better things" to put the enchantment on?"
"As I said before, I can easily clean up the parasites if you just get your followers out of my way. Evacuate the cities and I will clear them...""That is generous. I will evacuate all nearby towns immediately."
"Firstly, the dust ring is small and weak and as such its removal of Void Influence is slow and similarly weak. The sun is large and powerful and as such its anti-Void properties will be much more potent, reflected in its price. Secondly, how will it set us down the wrong road? It would completely remove all of the Void's power in the system. No mutations, no contact with the Void, no manifestation-summoning, nothing. Thirdly, I am making some Nature Spirits that will guard the sun and warn us if anyone is going to attack it. Now, what do you mean by "better things" to put the enchantment on?"
"That is generous. I will evacuate all nearby towns immediately."
You have no real idea what the Sentinels are, do you?
"Way to rip off the Vindico. Weren't you against making expendable armies? I suppose you are the God of hypocrites..."
"As I said before, I can easily clean up the parasites if you just get your followers out of my way. Evacuate the cities and I will clear them..."
"The Humans don't have a patron deity any more. Don't you think you should've started helping at least since the last Tick?"((Yesterday was a swim meet and I had to do make-up work. >.>))
No matter. I have doubts as to your ability to stop them that easily, as you said the same two ticks ago. At this point, we need a broader approach."His" method works! Just ring a bell, and all the monsters crumble!
You have no real idea what the Sentinels are, do you?
Nor how long I've been planning them, I wager.
No matter. I have doubts as to your ability to stop them that easily, as you said the same two ticks ago. At this point, we need a broader approach.
Additionally, Viminal seems to be powerful enough at purifying to undo Void contracts about constructing things...not very quickly, though. Nonetheless, this is good.
Guardian Angels and Templars are to work on protection duty; keep the parasites from infecting any more people.
"Your last attempt doubled the amount of Void worship. Did that not teach you how ignorant you are? Listen to me. I am one of the few who know anything about it.""It didn't double Void-worship - it doubled Void Influence. You did not oppose it in any way - either with a formal opposition or simply by speaking against it. If you know so much about the Void, then why don't you tell us exactly what to do to beat the Void and explain how those methods would beat it. Can you at least explain how Void Influence doubled simply by preventing Eldritch magic?"
"I mean you could enchant something else to have the exact same effect, without making a valuable object a target. A forest, a mountain, or even a statue could be made that has the exact same effect, without putting the planet at risk.""Enchanting such things would not be able to remove Void Influence from the entire planet. It takes an entire dust ring just to remove Void Influence from Keshan at its current rate. Combining anti-Void enchantment with the raw power of the sun is the only option we have at removing Void Influence with any decent amount of speed, preventing all but the most powerful of Void spells from being made manifest, and depowering such spells to the point where its effects can be easily negated by other means."
"Enchanting such things would not be able to remove Void Influence from the entire planet. It takes an entire dust ring just to remove Void Influence from Keshan at its current rate. Combining anti-Void enchantment with the raw power of the sun is the only option we have at removing Void Influence with any decent amount of speed, preventing all but the most powerful of Void spells from being made manifest, and depowering such spells to the point where its effects can be easily negated by other means."
As Fusil said, you don't seem to have much of an idea on how the Void works. Throwing around ideas hasn't worked before, why would it work now?"Why would I want to join the committee? There is no point to its existence. Any god can freely study the Void without being in it. Maybe if committee-members were the only ones capable of communicating with the Void its existence might make a modicum of sense but that proposal was shot down for reasons I cannot remember. Why even bother studying the Void? No one's even bothering to release what information they've gathered until it's immediately relevant."
If you really want to help, join the committee and study the bloody thing. At least in knowing how it works, we can limit any damage it might do, if not put an outright end to it.
What about other potential effects of making the sun anti-void? Do you know, for absolutely certain, that it won't have any unwanted side-effects? It is, after all a sun, which provides a great deal of energy for the life on the planet. I don't want all life to end because you made an incredibly uninformed decision to deal with the Void and its influence."Yes, I am absolutely certain it will have no unwanted side-effects. If it did, then we would've seen some on a smaller scale with the Keshan dust ring. All it would do is remove Void Influence. Besides, if it were to remove all life on the planet - which it's won't, I'm sure either Joha or Atropos would know."
The last thing you did doubled Void-influence. You're not exactly reliable when it comes to dealing with it effectively...
"It didn't double Void-worship - it doubled Void Influence. You did not oppose it in any way - either with a formal opposition or simply by speaking against it. If you know so much about the Void, then why don't you tell us exactly what to do to beat the Void and explain how those methods would beat it. Can you at least explain how Void Influence doubled simply by preventing Eldritch magic?"
"Yes, I am absolutely certain it will have no unwanted side-effects. If it did, then we would've seen some on a smaller scale with the Keshan dust ring. All it would do is remove Void Influence. Besides, if it were to remove all life on the planet - which it's won't, I'm sure either Joha or Atropos would know."
"Name one other god who has been reliable with dealing with it. Not other gods who've dealt with it - that's happened, but those who've dealt with it reliably. At least my policy of "Do specifically anti-Void things in the hopes of countering their efforts" is better than Fusil's "Ignore them and hope they'll be really, really nice and will start leaving us alone." Some things work and other things don't. My idea to block their magic didn't work. Maybe my next idea will. All I know is that I'm the only one coming up with ideas."
"Enchanting such things would not be able to remove Void Influence from the entire planet. It takes an entire dust ring just to remove Void Influence from Keshan at its current rate. Combining anti-Void enchantment with the raw power of the sun is the only option we have at removing Void Influence with any decent amount of speed, preventing all but the most powerful of Void spells from being made manifest, and depowering such spells to the point where its effects can be easily negated by other means."
The committee to study the Void is the only entity able to do so, and it must always have at least three gods sitting in(on?) it. Gods on the committee will rotate every three ticks, either at random, by lottery or by vote. The gods on the committee must study the void at least once per tick, costs - if any - to be shared amongst them. They must publicly announce their findings. Any gods that have done private research into the Void must also reveal the entirety of what they know of the Void.
The committee to study the Void is the only entity able to do so, and it must always have at least three gods sitting in(on?) it. Gods on the committee will rotate every three ticks, either at random, by lottery or by vote. The gods on the committee must study the void at least once per tick, costs - if any - to be shared amongst them. They must publicly announce their findings. Any gods that have done private research into the Void must also reveal the entirety of what they know of the Void."I'm starting to like you. Let's see, now. First of all, I think that committee members should join of their own free will. Studying the Void could be hazardous to one's health, after all. To provide incentive to join the committee, the gods will be granted 1E every Tick to be subsidised by the other gods (the discount should kick in). Every three Ticks, each of the gods in the committee must show proof of their study or else be voted off the committee by the other gods. There's no way to enforce the rule that all private research must be shared with the other gods, unfortunately. If this committee proposal passes, I'd be willing to organise all research into a single document for viewing."
Any objections or modifications?
"Why would they know? Up to date, they have not had any kind of knowlage on mass killings, no more so than I have of a bunch of weapons being produced."(I'm thinking they would get an announcement from GM like "Hey! This thing is detrimental to life! You would intrinsically know this because your spheres are aligned in such a way!" Really, though, I think all gods should have that kind of knowledge of their actions. We're not Humans, after all, we're nigh-omniscient, transcendent beings of pure creation. It's rather unfortunate that we (pl.) are just Humans though, so these kinds of things need to be told to us.)
"Dealing with the Void directly is stupid in every way, there is no reason to do it when we have much safer ways.""For the love of the gods, Fusil, could you please tell us what these "safer ways" are?"
"I'm starting to like you. Let's see, now. First of all, I think that committee members should join of their own free will. Studying the Void could be hazardous to one's health, after all. To provide incentive to join the committee, the gods will be granted 1E every Tick to be subsidised by the other gods (the discount should kick in). Every three Ticks, each of the gods in the committee must show proof of their study or else be voted off the committee by the other gods. There's no way to enforce the rule that all private research must be shared with the other gods, unfortunately. If this committee proposal passes, I'd be willing to organise all research into a single document for viewing."
(I'm thinking they would get an announcement from GM like "Hey! This thing is detrimental to life! You would intrinsically know this because your spheres are aligned in such a way!" Really, though, I think all gods should have that kind of knowledge of their actions. We're not Humans, after all, we're nigh-omniscient, transcendent beings of pure creation. It's rather unfortunate that we (pl.) are just Humans though, so these kinds of things need to be told to us.)
"For the love of the gods, Fusil, could you please tell us what these "safer ways" are?"
"Still against. Essence discount doesn't work like that, or we would have infinite essence essentially. We can't turn three essence to five.""That's a good point. I wonder if we can turn 3E into 5E if we pass a proposal saying it's possible..... In any case, the new method for receiving Essence while on the committee will be that gods simply give it to them. The ones chosen to give our scientists Essence will be chosen alphabetically, 1E per god until they're up again. If two gods are on the committee, for example, God A will give God X 1 Essence and then God B will give God Y 1 Essence. The next three Ticks, it'll be the job of Gods C and D to pay God X and Y. I volunteer to be the first god to pay."
(There you go making dangerous assumptions again.)(This is getting annoying. I honestly really do need to stop.)
"Its these magical things called a book. I believe I have been quite clear that they have anything we could ever need on the Void locked inside.""I'm a bit weary about reading Void texts. Maybe there are copies that weren't made by the Void itself? An unaffiliated mortal, perhaps, or you?"
"That's a good point. I wonder if we can turn 3E into 5E if we pass a proposal saying it's possible..... In any case, the new method for receiving Essence while on the committee will be that gods simply give it to them. The ones chosen to give our scientists Essence will be chosen alphabetically, 1E per god until they're up again. If two gods are on the committee, for example, God A will give God X 1 Essence and then God B will give God Y 1 Essence. The next three Ticks, it'll be the job of Gods C and D to pay God X and Y. I volunteer to be the first god to pay."
"I'm a bit weary about reading Void texts. Maybe there are copies that weren't made by the Void itself? An unaffiliated mortal, perhaps, or you?"
"...You want me to pay for something I don't want to do? Why would anyone want to pay for this? If they where enthusiastic enough about the project to pay for it, they might as well just join the committee...Or everyone would just join and lie about their results.""Good point. Ok, anyone who gets voted off cannot rejoin for 9 Ticks. To rejoin, they must have present some amount of study that proves they are worthy. I doubt people would lie about their results. Unless they're really good lies we'd probably find out the truth sooner or later. I doubt anyone here is capable of lying that well, though. Yes I am aware we have a god of Deception here."
"I have to go through an extensive and dizzying (literally) process to even be able to read a sentence on the old Temple. Have you not even tried reading the books in the library?""That's why I don't want to read any Void texts. What if you've been subtly, irreparably mutated? I'll only read such books if they've been written by a god so I know it hasn't been tainted with Void taint. Neither I nor Yaos have read any books in the library. Yaos for fear of being influenced by the Void via the presence of Void texts and I because there's nothing in the library that would interest me besides Void texts which I refuse to read unless written by a god."
Azem mutters darkly to himself."If you want, I could eat your soul. There is nothing more comfortable than my insides, after all, and it would certainly be a decent respite from the rest of existence and if you want to leave I will expel you as soon as divinely possible."
"Greetings new god. Please don't make my existence worse than it already is."
"I've actually been wondering something. It is of course possible to receive Essence via worship, but is it possible to receive Essence via worship if another god is the source of the worship? Is such worship worth more than mortal worship? What happens if a Null takes to worshipping a God?""We've discussed this before. Worship quality goes down as the worshiper goes up in 'status'. Worship of another God is probably worth about as much as the natural income you get from 'worshiping' yourself, so not very much. Of the Null, the already low amount of Essence would be corrupted by their Void Energy, which may have unforeseen consequences. I wouldn't risk trying to convert a Null, even if it was somehow feasible and practical."
"Good point. Ok, anyone who gets voted off cannot rejoin for 9 Ticks. To rejoin, they must have present some amount of study that proves they are worthy. I doubt people would lie about their results. Unless they're really good lies we'd probably find out the truth sooner or later. I doubt anyone here is capable of lying that well, though. Yes I am aware we have a god of Deception here."
"That's why I don't want to read any Void texts. What if you've been subtly, irreparably mutated? I'll only read such books if they've been written by a god so I know it hasn't been tainted with Void taint. Neither I nor Yaos have read any books in the library. Yaos for fear of being influenced by the Void via the presence of Void texts and I because there's nothing in the library that would interest me besides Void texts which I refuse to read unless written by a god."
"I've actually been wondering something. It is of course possible to receive Essence via worship, but is it possible to receive Essence via worship if another god is the source of the worship? Is such worship worth more than mortal worship? What happens if a Null takes to worshipping a God?"
"If you want, I could eat your soul. There is nothing more comfortable than my insides, after all, and it would certainly be a decent respite from the rest of existence and if you want to leave I will expel you as soon as divinely possible."
"We've discussed this before. Worship quality goes down as the worshiper goes up in 'status'. Worship of another God is probably worth about as much as the natural income you get from 'worshiping' yourself, so not very much. Of the Null, the already low amount of Essence would be corrupted by their Void Energy, which may have unforeseen consequences. I wouldn't risk trying to convert a Null, even if it was somehow feasible and practical.""So the best and most efficient way to get Essence is to make sapient, normally-reproducing, mortal, unfathomably weak creatures and make them your worshippers? That sounds awfully game-y."
"Why would they vote anyone off? There is currently no motivation to do so. The deadline idea forces them to either lie or simply state that they "got nothing" anyway, since it is simply impossible to continuously receive new information on the scale you had set forth. If that becomes acceptable, there is no reason to join just to get free essence and not have to pay for something worthless.""This is why discussion is important. An incentive to vote someone off is that you won't have to pay them any more. We can extend the deadline, have the committee-member show exactly how they've been studying, or possibly both methods."
"Then Tykki would have noticed. She read it, too, and neither of us noticed any change. These where not even texts, but words written in a temple. Like I said, I know far more about the Void than you do. If reading something managed to damage a God, we would notice this among the mortals. It would make finding cults much easier than it has been.""Are you absolutely sure? Nothing bad can come from a God reading a Void text? Wait a minute, if a God got dizzy from reading a Void text, then what would happen to a mortal who reads one?"
"....are you hitting on Azem? "There is nothing more comfortable than being inside me"? How subtle.""Firstly, you're misquoting me. Secondly, THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT AND YOU KNOW IT, WEAPONS!"
"So the best and most efficient way to get Essence is to make sapient, normally-reproducing, mortal, unfathomably weak creatures and make them your worshippers? That sounds awfully game-y."
"This is why discussion is important. An incentive to vote someone off is that you won't have to pay them any more. We can extend the deadline, have the committee-member show exactly how they've been studying, or possibly both methods."
"Are you absolutely sure? Nothing bad can come from a God reading a Void text? Wait a minute, if a God got dizzy from reading a Void text, then what would happen to a mortal who reads one?"
"Firstly, you're misquoting me. Secondly, THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT AND YOU KNOW IT, WEAPONS!"
Fusil, I shall move all people away from all infected cities. I could just shield them if I knew how your purging method worked, but I will not hold it against you if you keep it a secret. How long should I wait before returning them?
"The committee members vote on who to kick off, correct? The committee members also don't pay. They have no reason to vote someone off. Extending deadlines defeats the purpose of deadlines, and showing what they are studying doesn't mean they are actually studying it to any effect.""Alright, only three members can be on the committee at a time. The initial deadline will be increased to 5 Ticks and the deadline can be extended once by another 2 Ticks if they have studied the Void to a reasonable extent. Said voting will take place within less than a Tick."
"So what are you saying then? First you offered to eat him. Next you offered to put him inside you. You told him to just relax, and that you would expel him from your body as quickly as possible. Not. Subtle."Malakath teleports all parasites to an isolated area and burns them all in a giant pillar of dark fire. She does all this using magic rather than Essence. (1E max) "Do not escalate this, Weapons."
Azem mutters darkly to himself.
"Greetings new god. Please don't make my existence worse than it already is."
Greeting to you Raptil. Pitty that all the big game was hunted before your apearance, but that is a situation easily remedied.
Greetings Raptil. May those hunted by you die a slow and painful death.
Hello Raptil. I'm sure our interactions, once you get yourself a set of worshipers, will prove fruitful in the future. Good luck...
Greetings to the new arrival. Hope you enjoy your stay in our scenic little bubble.
"Um, byy there being no more "big game" Khaziraad was referring to the megabeasts which were semi-recently killed. Wolves, wargs, deer, and other such creatures already exist."
"Merciful and swift deaths? How absurd."Greetings Raptil. May those hunted by you die a slow and painful death.
Greetings. No, may their deaths be merciful and swift.
"It isn't that absurd, Have you thought that maybe some don't like pain and that many actively disdain it?""I used to fear pain when I was still mortal, but weeks of torture made me see the true beauty of pain and made me what I am today. I whish to share pain with everyone, so they can discover who they truly are."
Fortuna's game continues with Fortuna drawing J♦, K♥, and Q♣. The man draws 3♠, 4♥, and 9♠.
"Would you settle for a draw in exchange for my devotion?"
The bandits offer to get back to work in exchange for a boon from Fortuna.
Some mines have run into pockets of incredibly valuable minerals.
Malakath's tutorials have received showings of countless people of various backgrounds. A substantial portion seem unable to use even the simplest of magic at all during the tutorials. There is a surprisingly high rate of assorted injuries ranging from minor cuts and bruises to loss of limbs or senses or even death even for near-trivial spells in those who attended.
"She's probably showing them blood all over the floor magic."
It costs 3E for a god to use it, and the answer is most likely to be useless.The Oracle gives answers to the questions it is asked. No more. It depends entirely upon the question asked. In fact, there are several questions I would like to ask it, however, I do not have the essence to spend on such an endeavour at the current time. Speaking of which...there's some things I'd been meaning to do.
color=navy]What in the name of the council are you showing these people, Malakath!?[/color]"How to feel magic inside themselves and cantrips. This shouldn't be happening or else we'd have heard about such dangers of magic long ago. Another god is interfering."
"She's probably showing them blood magic.""Beginner blood magic basically amounts to breathing exercises. I highly doubt that's enough to dismember people. Besides, that's not what's being taught."
Malakath's tutorials have received showings of countless people of various backgrounds. A substantial portion seem unable to use even the simplest of magic at all during the tutorials. There is a surprisingly high rate of assorted injuries ranging from minor cuts and bruises to loss of limbs or senses or even death even for near-trivial spells in those who attended.I revive those who've died and haven't reincarnated/gone to not-Heaven and return the limbs and senses to those who've lost them. The Sanatores are sent in to heal everyone else. "Attention, everyone. Another god is attempting to prevent the education of safe magic-use. For this reason, no more lessons will be held in my temples. Instead, those who are willing may learn magic in the Plane of Battle where all injuries and deaths are non-permanent."
Some people who used to make Void pacts for mundane things continue to do so.I ask them why they would continue making Void pacts when they can do mundane things on their own (accidents not-withstanding). Do these pacts still work?
Fusil's method, whatever it is, seems to be very successful but seems to be as unwieldy as having a band of traveling musicians moving from town to town. Much monster death occurs with minimal structural damage, and the streets end up mostly dry and easily cleaned. Perhaps the legends of The Janitor are true?I go to the Library and ask its guardians about a book on "The Janitor". Asking the guardians is probably much more efficient than simply looking for them. I read up on as many useful books on the Void as I can.
Those that attempt to inhabit space around Keshan seem to die quickly.I close my eyes and concentrate. Using my godly intuition/sixth sense/whatever, I determine why they're dying near Keshan. Regardless of if that works or not, I ask those who died about what exactly happened. I made them so they'd almost certainly have worshipped me as their prime deity and as such would've gone to Heaven.
You are very quick to assume that another god is involved in these catastrophic failures, Malakath, god of Magic."It's common knowledge that most bad things happen because a God is secretly trying to make another god's day worse."
Perhaps not all mortals have the capacity to deal with magic use, suggested by the range of injuries they seem to be experiencing?"These injuries are inconsistent with the usual effects of magic overuse. The absolute - and I mean absolute - worst thing that could occur from a beginner trying a cantrip is unconsciousness. Most of the time it's just headaches from concentrating on the spells over and over again."
Whatever the reason, I would hope that you're willing to back-track on your revelation to the mortals, and your baseless blanket accusation that another god is behind this, should your investigation prove fruitless."Considering the universe's history with Gods harming innocent people to get at another God I highly doubt that my initial assessment is incorrect. I've made some enemies among the Gods, the injuries are inconsistent and too extreme for what's causing them, and most bad things are the fault of a God. The monsters, the Stone Men, the parasites, the plagues...all of it was the fault of a God. It is far from a baseless accusation."
You are very quick to assume that another god is involved in these catastrophic failures, Malakath, god of Magic."It's common knowledge that most bad things happen because a God is secretly trying to make another god's day worse."Perhaps not all mortals have the capacity to deal with magic use, suggested by the range of injuries they seem to be experiencing?"These injuries are inconsistent with the usual effects of magic overuse. The absolute - and I mean absolute - worst thing that could occur from a beginner trying a cantrip is unconsciousness. Most of the time it's just headaches from concentrating on the spells over and over again."Whatever the reason, I would hope that you're willing to back-track on your revelation to the mortals, and your baseless blanket accusation that another god is behind this, should your investigation prove fruitless."Considering the universe's history with Gods harming innocent people to get at another God I highly doubt that my initial assessment is incorrect. I've made some enemies among the Gods, the injuries are inconsistent and too extreme for what's causing them, and most bad things are the fault of a God. The monsters, the Stone Men, the parasites, the plagues...all of it was the fault of a God. It is far from a baseless accusation."
You seem to be forgetting a fairly critical change between your previous experience with magic and now: there are no restrictions on magic anymore."That is not at all what's going on. A more apt analogy is this: there is a gate barring access to a river. Some people are allowed to pass through the gate and drink water - mages. Most people, though, aren't allowed to pass through the gate - non-mages. Suddenly, everyone was given a pass and they decided to drink water from the river. Unfortunately, someone decided to poison the river and now everyone who's drinking from it is dying. This analogy is even better when you consider that previously, the only danger the river posed is accidentally falling in and drowning - overusing magic and burning out your soul. You can still do that now but you're more likely to die by the poison - suddenly bleeding and getting injured for no reason."
Ergo, the argument that "it was never like this before" is invalid, because it's no longer what it was like.
Consider the restrictions on magic like a dam. If you remove the dam completely, instantaneously, the water that it was holding back is now rushing forward, destroying everything in its path. This is what I think is happening with magic at the moment.
Also, your argument, which I'm paraphrasing, that "gods have been bastards before, so they'll probably be bastards again" is a bit foolish. It may well be that they will continue to be bastards, but you need some proof that that it's a god being a bastard in this instance, otherwise you just sound like you're making excuses. I'm not saying that it isn't someone being a bastard, but you should at least explore other avenues before coming to that conclusion, sans evidence."The idea that a god is responsible is the most likely theory. The only other credible theory is the one where simply using magic is resulting in these injuries, which evidence is actively proving against based on the types of injury. As for exploring other avenues, that's what I'm doing right now. Maybe you want to help?"
((Excuse the excessive swearing, I'm tired so I can't come up with a more eloquent way of saying it :D))
You seem to be forgetting a fairly critical change between your previous experience with magic and now: there are no restrictions on magic anymore."That is not at all what's going on. A more apt analogy is this: there is a gate barring access to a river. Some people are allowed to pass through the gate and drink water - mages. Most people, though, aren't allowed to pass through the gate - non-mages. Suddenly, everyone was given a pass and they decided to drink water from the river. Unfortunately, someone decided to poison the river and now everyone who's drinking from it is dying. This analogy is even better when you consider that previously, the only danger the river posed is accidentally falling in and drowning - overusing magic and burning out your soul. You can still do that now but you're more likely to die by the poison - suddenly bleeding and getting injured for no reason."
Ergo, the argument that "it was never like this before" is invalid, because it's no longer what it was like.
Consider the restrictions on magic like a dam. If you remove the dam completely, instantaneously, the water that it was holding back is now rushing forward, destroying everything in its path. This is what I think is happening with magic at the moment.
Also, your argument, which I'm paraphrasing, that "gods have been bastards before, so they'll probably be bastards again" is a bit foolish. It may well be that they will continue to be bastards, but you need some proof that that it's a god being a bastard in this instance, otherwise you just sound like you're making excuses. I'm not saying that it isn't someone being a bastard, but you should at least explore other avenues before coming to that conclusion, sans evidence.
((Excuse the excessive swearing, I'm tired so I can't come up with a more eloquent way of saying it :D))
"The idea that a god is responsible is the most likely theory. The only other credible theory is the one where simply using magic is resulting in these injuries, which evidence is actively proving against based on the types of injury. As for exploring other avenues, that's what I'm doing right now. Maybe you want to help?"
EDIT: "If your dam theory was correct, we'd see a great many people burning their souls out rather than getting physically injured."
..."Oh, my mistake. I may have a Void army/illusion to deal with then... My apologies."
Nothing's there. Seriously. Maybe there's my archangel body if it didn't disappear, but everything else left, and it wasn't an army in the first place. So, I don't know what you're talking about. If there's an army there, it's not mine.
Cim reads the energy signature on one of the injured students of magic.
"Your argument, Fortuna and Malakath, is missing a hefty dose of empiricism. Allow me."
So many assumptions about what other gods have or haven't done...and yet I'd wager you have very little idea what Cim has been working on, do you?
That's assuming that magic comes solely ((hoho)) from the soul. I would find it hard to believe that Void-worshipers are selling their soul in order to help clean the dishes. I would hope that the mortals are a little more intelligent than that."That "natural magic" is actually entirely artificial and produced by the gods. Aside from things made magic explicitly by the gods, nothing has magic unless it has a soul. As for the restrictions, that is simply incorrect. The only restriction placed was in preventing most people from using magic. Overusing magic doesn't affect the body at all, normally, it just affects the soul. The problem here is that using magic - ANY magic - is damaging the body. Simply having magic doesn't harm people. If your theory was correct, then at the very least this would be a widespread issue. If you read the report closely, though, you'll see that only those attending the sessions are getting injured. Therefore, simply having magic isn't bad, but using it is."
The constellations of both worlds also influence magic to some degree, else why would they be there?
In the council rules, even: 03.06.1: Make magical constellations that influence magic on the worlds. You could infer from this that there is also some degree of natural magic, given that this happened quite early in creating things.
Now, I will add to this that I don't know to what degree the restriction on magic actually restricted magic. But if it was a big enough restriction, then it would stand to reason that a mortal suddenly finding they can use magic could actually hurt themselves quite significantly because they're body just can't bear the power. What we find happening only strengthens this opinion, for me.
You seem to have a habit of assuming something is one way, and then refusing to shift from that position. I'm telling you that the rules of magic have changed, because there is now no restriction on its use. You can no longer say that what you know about magic is correct, because the rules are different now.""No restrictions?" The only restriction - singular, not plural - was the one saying how many people could use magic. What applies to the old mages applies to the new mages."
I appreciate that I'm making assumptions of myself here, but I'm basing it on what's actually happening now. We changed the rules on magic by lifting restrictions, and now people are getting hurt. It may not be cause and effect, but there is definitely a correlation between the two.
Further, this is a mess, of your creation, whether or not you believe as much. Why would I want to help? You announced yourself as the god of Magic, so basically any help I give you is only going to benefit you through more worship. I would literally gain nothing from helping you pro bono, whereas you get a significant long-term gain: every mortal can now use magic, so potentially every mortal is going to be interested in worshiping you because of this. That is a massive potential in Essence, all of which would goes to you."I thought that as a self-proclaimed good person I thoughtyou might be interested in helping innocent people who are dying for no fault of their own. Speaking of which...."
Thus, I won't help without significant compensation. This does not include a "oh hey, Fortuna helped me fix the magic problem, go say thanks!" because, of the two of us, the fact you can influence magic is going to be much more appealing to potential worshipers.
"No clue. Why would I be keeping an eye on someone who I actively hate and who talks with the Void all day? Spying on him would just be silly and I would never do such a thing ::)"
"No clue. Why would I be keeping an eye on someone who I actively hate and who talks with the Void all day? Spying on him would just be silly and I would never do such a thing ::)"
"There's an expression. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
Then again, I don't believe you have ever actually bothered to make friends, so you probably wouldn't have heard of that.
Cim reads the energy signature on one of the injured students of magic."I'm doing my part as well. Checking their chi levels might come up with something, though."
"Your argument, Fortuna and Malakath, is missing a hefty dose of empiricism. Allow me."
"I haven't checked yet, from what I think I know on it right now that shouldn't happen unless it is somehow a quirk of the "Blood Magic"."You're half-right. Well, quarter-right. Eighth-right. Improper use of blood magic can indeed result in similar symptoms. However, those who are new to magic are entirely unable to use that specific branch of blood magic (Elemental). (down to half-right.) If they were able to, then the worst that would usually happen if something went wrong (assuming they're using beginner blood magic) are headaches, dizziness, shortness of breath, and pain+occasionally bruises at the worst. Those bruises can be pretty dangerous but are easily fixed by someone who has a decent knowledge of the healing branch of blood magic. (Down to quarter-right.) Finally, there's the fact that the temples were NOT teaching them blood magic AT ALL. Just how to use magic, how to gauge how much magic is being used, knowing when too much is being used, and personal limitations. (Eight-right.)"
"I'm doing my part as well. Checking their chi levels might come up with something, though."
"You're half-right. Well, quarter-right. Eighth-right. Improper use of blood magic can indeed result in similar symptoms. However, those who are new to magic are entirely unable to use that specific branch of blood magic (Elemental). (down to half-right.) If they were able to, then the worst that would usually happen if something went wrong (assuming they're using beginner blood magic) are headaches, dizziness, shortness of breath, and pain+occasionally bruises at the worst. Those bruises can be pretty dangerous but are easily fixed by someone who has a decent knowledge of the healing branch of blood magic. (Down to quarter-right.) Finally, there's the fact that the temples were NOT teaching them blood magic AT ALL. Just how to use magic, how to gauge how much magic is being used, knowing when too much is being used, and personal limitations. (Eight-right.)"
"giving instant gratification to people in an attempt to make them worship you because you give them things, rather than because they truly believe."Truly believe in what, exactly? Truly believe that I exist? They know I exist. Truly believe in my teachings? I don't have any teachings, save "be good". Shall I tell them that they won't get your help because they're not sufficiently good enough or because they're not citizens of your cities?"
"Chi doesn't exist. The Martial Arts god was simply using forces he didn't understand. There, now you can end your obsession with it."(Actually, he created the force known as chi.)
"Do you know who you are talking to? Considering how incorrect your previous beliefs on magic have been, I am not inclined to believe you without evidence. You have no clue what you are talking about, and you don't even have a clue that you have no clue what you are talking about. Isn't that sad?""I....but...I invented blood magic! My explanation of how blood magic works is true because I'm the one who decided how blood magic works!"
(Actually, he created the force known as chi.)
"I....but...I invented blood magic! My explanation of how blood magic works is true because I'm the one who decided how blood magic works!"
Why don't you tell them they won't get any help because their own god can't be arsed and do something herself, and is instead trying to get other gods to do the work of looking after her followers for her?"That's not the issue here, actually. I'm doing as much as I can to prevent any further deaths but my problem stems from you apparently ignoring the situation altogether."
Your followers are your responsibility, Malakath. Otherwise, why should they follow you? And as much as I would love to do your job for you so you can faff about with Blood Magic and pet projects, I'm a bit preoccupied, what with the giant parasites and the death and the plagues and accusations of warmongering and all."Many people who attended the sessions don't worship me as their primary. Some worship Fusil most, others you, Kli, Khaziraad, and all the other gods. I only began these sessions to prevent the consequences that might result from improper use of people's new abilities regardless of who they choose to worship the most."
And as for truly believe: Truly believe that you are a god worth following and devoting their life to, rather than just a force that gives them stuff if they compliment it regularly."All gods are different, Darruth. You might be interested in having people devote their life to you above all other gods but not I. While I certainly appreciate it when I'm the target of exclusive or primary worship I have no problem with my followers worshipping other gods. I can't grant them the same things that others can and I want my followers to be as happy and fulfilled as they can possibly be, even if it means non-exclusive or non-primary worship. Besides, I'm entirely fine with giving things to people who compliment me enough. It's a fair trade in my book and there's nothing wrong with a fair trade."
I'm a bit preoccupied, what with the giant parasites and the death and the plagues and accusations of warmongering and all.
The active monsters have mostly been eradicated, and the still alive monsters are mostly curiosities at various research organizations.
"Many people who attended the sessions don't worship me as their primary. Some worship Fusil most, others you, Kli, Khaziraad, and all the other gods. I only began these sessions to prevent the consequences that might result from improper use of people's new abilities regardless of who they choose to worship the most."
The parasites have mostly been eradicated, but many samples probably exist in the various research organizations.
"That is simply a lie. I hardly let you have so much influence in my cities, as you have seen before, and have come up with my own ways to make casting less dangerous and more powerful. As I said before. It seems to me that you are trying to convince us to fix your mistake again. If you believe someone is targeting you, find out who they are and kill them."
Malakath's tutorials have received showings of countless people of various backgrounds."I don't have enough followers for the number to be considered "countless" and people worship you outside of your cities."
"That is simply a lie. I hardly let you have so much influence in my cities, as you have seen before, and have come up with my own ways to make casting less dangerous and more powerful. As I said before. It seems to me that you are trying to convince us to fix your mistake again. If you believe someone is targeting you, find out who they are and kill them."Malakath's tutorials have received showings of countless people of various backgrounds."I don't have enough followers for the number to be considered "countless" and people worship you outside of your cities."
"You believe that Human soldiers don't worship you? That Night Elf weaponsmiths don't praise you? What about that cult that worships all gods living or dead?""That is simply a lie. I hardly let you have so much influence in my cities, as you have seen before, and have come up with my own ways to make casting less dangerous and more powerful. As I said before. It seems to me that you are trying to convince us to fix your mistake again. If you believe someone is targeting you, find out who they are and kill them."Malakath's tutorials have received showings of countless people of various backgrounds."I don't have enough followers for the number to be considered "countless" and people worship you outside of your cities."
(I am quick enough to read what you type before you edit ::))
"That is a huge assumption. Really huge. Stop it. That is 200% baseless."
"You believe that Human soldiers don't worship you? That Night Elf weaponsmiths don't praise you? What about that cult that worships all gods living or dead?"
"They have no reason to go to the temple of another God and listen to his tutorials on his magics. As I said, I provided much better means than you. Why would you assume that my followers would go to such a thing? It simply did not happen.""I'm not talking about exclusive followers, you know. Some people choose to worship you merely amongst other gods. Some worship us both to achieve their maximum potential with their Soul Weapons, for example."
"I'm not talking about exclusive followers, you know. Some people choose to worship you merely amongst other gods. Some worship us both to achieve their maximum potential with their Soul Weapons, for example."
I create 100 Winged Dragon Servants ((as described OOC)) And send them to fire-bomb parasite-infested cities built of stone.VETO!!! "ARE YOU TRYING TO GET YOURSELF KILLED!? THAT'LL DRAIN ALL YOUR ESSENCE!"
"Save yourself the trouble youngling. It is pointless to argue with the god of weapons.""Good point. Truly you are wise beyond your....no. You've lived all years that have ever existed. I'd say you're exactly as wise as your age suggests. It's a compliment."
I create 100 Winged Dragon Servants ((as described OOC)) And send them to fire-bomb parasite-infested cities built of stone.VETO!!! "ARE YOU TRYING TO GET YOURSELF KILLED!? THAT'LL DRAIN ALL YOUR ESSENCE!"
100 winged dragon servants (race; mortal; no angel template): 4-5E
"That is, sadly, true. Though not a unique condition by any means."I create 100 Winged Dragon Servants ((as described OOC)) And send them to fire-bomb parasite-infested cities built of stone.VETO!!! "ARE YOU TRYING TO GET YOURSELF KILLED!? THAT'LL DRAIN ALL YOUR ESSENCE!""Save yourself the trouble youngling. It is pointless to argue with the god of weapons.""Good point. Truly you are wise beyond your....no. You've lived all years that have ever existed. I'd say you're exactly as wise as your age suggests. It's a compliment."
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"Malakath, I know what I do. I'm not going to kill myself. If I made 100 Angels, I probably would drop dead, but these aren't Angels. They're just dragons who serve me.I create 100 Winged Dragon Servants ((as described OOC)) And send them to fire-bomb parasite-infested cities built of stone.VETO!!! "ARE YOU TRYING TO GET YOURSELF KILLED!? THAT'LL DRAIN ALL YOUR ESSENCE!""Save yourself the trouble youngling. It is pointless to argue with the god of weapons.""Good point. Truly you are wise beyond your....no. You've lived all years that have ever existed. I'd say you're exactly as wise as your age suggests. It's a compliment."
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(*facepalm*) UnvetoI create 100 Winged Dragon Servants ((as described OOC)) And send them to fire-bomb parasite-infested cities built of stone.VETO!!! "ARE YOU TRYING TO GET YOURSELF KILLED!? THAT'LL DRAIN ALL YOUR ESSENCE!"Quote100 winged dragon servants (race; mortal; no angel template): 4-5E
Change oracle question: Who is responsible for the alteration of how magic worked for those who attended my sessions where simply using magic now causes physical injury?
Azem turns into an emerald dragon who looks about as ancient as the Prophet Alprozem and puts on a stern face.
"Does this look suit me?"
Azem turns into an emerald dragon who looks about as ancient as the Prophet Alprozem and puts on a stern face."Considering your personality, yes."
"Does this look suit me?"
"Hatchlings these days, no respect for their elders.""Old, fed-up with his neighbours, tired of the world... Does that not describe you?"
Azem turns into an emerald dragon who looks about as ancient as the Prophet Alprozem and puts on a stern face.You look old and wise, certainly.
"Does this look suit me?"
Azem turns into an emerald dragon who looks about as ancient as the Prophet Alprozem and puts on a stern face.You look old and wise, certainly.
"Does this look suit me?"
Raptil shows himself to some bands of hunters, and manipulates the outcomes of their hunting sessions.
Azem turns into an emerald dragon who looks about as ancient as the Prophet Alprozem and puts on a stern face.You look like you are one of my creations. It suits you well.
"Does this look suit me?"
Wyrms will now be called Wyverns.
The Library has a few collections of folk tales from both Keshan and Slytha that mention "The Janitor." Cursory reading indicates that it is a terrifying creature with a black, almost skull-like face whose appearance can be either a terrible omen or a sign of cleansing. Illustrations are inconsistent and mostly seem to be based on its description than actual sightings.
Die-off seems to be higher on an inclined, circular, and high orbit around Keshan. Those who died report having felt very ill and almost empty.
Fortuna: "Agreed, then. Surely double the luck will get me double the results!"
The bandits make a counter-offer: They will get back to work with fewer vacation days in exchange for a boon from Fortuna.
A small band of traveling entertainers has pledged devotion to Fortuna, but most of them cite the capriciousness of the L-word as a deterring factor.
"Behold! Through the Powers Above and Below, I have created the regular five-sided die!"
"Just how much more unlucky can I get? Fortuna Fortuna Fortuna Fortuna!"
"Could you bless this glove?"
Just out of curiousity, how does a low-level bandit push for more vacations days? Do they have sick-pay too?"Almost every bandit gang has its designated lawmancer to keep them from getting into trouble. I do not approve of this behaviour, or lawmancy in general, but there are downsides to my great influence over the worlds. And yes, they do have sick-pay."
"By the way, Fortuna, know that there are forces of chance beyond luck. For example, the lack of it. Do not get too cocky and keep your hands off my assets, and maybe I won't need to stress this any further."
"We have a nice business deal for the export of torture as a service to a nice merlord. Bless Melyssa!""Ah, that's wonderful for you. Does this mean that i'm gaining merfolk followers?"
"Those idiot mages maiming themselves was hilarious!"
"Is it true that the Life Lab made the most pungent pepper in the world?""This is the case indeed. I can see a lot of torture opportunities with this."
It's slightly amusing that my burn the lich proposal was initially a joke and yet it's the only one I proposed that has passed.
Q: "Who is responsible for the alteration of how magic worked for those who attended my sessions where simply using magic now causes physical injury?"The implications of this are almost too obvious, and will probably end badly for Melyssa...
A: "Malakath, Khaziraad, and Melyssa."
Fusil's Blooddrinkers have been renamed to Fusil's n00bs.What.
"Malakath, one of my Archfiends, Uthon, has nothing to do at this moment. Will you allow him to join the Bellators?""Absolutely not. Perhaps he may fight with one in the Death Battle Plane and then perhaps against one of my angel priests? I want to see the level of strength a semi-demonic being possesses."
KI'Tork has offered instruction to his followers. Some of them also experience the assorted injuries associated with Malakath's instructional cohort.Only some of them? I scan them (0E) to see the difference between those who experienced the injuries and those who didn't. Do I sense any god's particular influence? My soul-sight should be able to tell if I'm being lied to (metaphysical soul theory) and should let me see if their souls have been tainted by the void (physical soul theory).
Most of them profess not to be Void worshippers.The report is either mistaken or misleading. Void-worshippers are entirely unable to use magic of any kind and thus wouldn't get any injury from using magic because they can't use magic. The only other explanation is that they used to worship the Void and are admitting to that.
"I can assure you that I have nothing to do with this."Quote from: Kilojoule ProtonQ: "Who is responsible for the alteration of how magic worked for those who attended my sessions where simply using magic now causes physical injury?"The implications of this are almost too obvious, and will probably end badly for Melyssa...
A: "Malakath, Khaziraad, and Melyssa."
"That is a shame. I had no intention to hurt any innocents, which can not be said about the enemies of the Bellators. I will not let Uthon fight on the Death Battle Plane yet, because he is only the first generation. He might be physically strong, but he barely has any experience with combat. That is why I wanted him to join the Bellators.""Malakath, one of my Archfiends, Uthon, has nothing to do at this moment. Will you allow him to join the Bellators?""Absolutely not. Perhaps he may fight with one in the Death Battle Plane and then perhaps against one of my angel priests? I want to see the level of strength a semi-demonic being possesses."
"You should instead ask if you've intentionally manipulated magic-use so that magic-users would get hurt."
Melyssa asks the Oracle "Have I, Melyssa, intentionally manipulated magic, so that all mages would get hurt?"
"That is a shame. I had no intention to hurt any innocents, which can not be said about the enemies of the Bellators. I will not let Uthon fight on the Death Battle Plane yet, because he is only the first generation. He might be physically strong, but he barely has any experience with combat. That is why I wanted him to join the Bellators.""Had no intention to hurt any innocents? What's that about? What enemies of the Bellators? The Burning Days look down on them but they're not exactly enemies. Fighting in the DBP should give Uthon some experience. The Bellatorus Sanatores are warrior doctors. Unless they're training, they spend most of their time healing rather than fighting."
The bandits have been granted enough luck to find the most valuable targets not under Fortuna's protection provided that they give 10% of their gross to Fortuna. They note that they receive more than they had to give and gleefully begin their raids again.
"You mean a game like The Floor is Caltrops?"
"Does it really!? Fortuna Fortuna Fortuna!"
"This glove should be lu--ovely for our next games."
Also, Raptil, if you do decide to create your own race of hunters, would you mind awfully donating some of the meat from successful hunts to my temples, in return for more luck in hunting expeditions?
"You could always create a race of birdmen-hunters, because you look like a bird yourself."
"You are welcome.""You could always create a race of birdmen-hunters, because you look like a bird yourself."
Hmmm... An interesting idea. I must consider it. My thanks.
Melyssa teaches the Flagellants ways to make their water-breathing easier/cheaper.
"You are brilliant. Torturing themselves makes them stronger, so i really appreciate your suggestion."Melyssa teaches the Flagellants ways to make their water-breathing easier/cheaper.
I am sorry to say I am unfamiliar with your worshipers methods, but would self-torture be something in which they indulge?
If so, you could allow them to breathe in water, but retain the hugely painful sensation of drowning.
Propose that magic be made a Council-protected force. Doing so will force magic-use to have the same consequences that it always had up until recently. (Please don't Literal Genie this proposal. I'm not bothered writing an entire paragraph or more describing exactly how it should work and I shouldn't be expected to do so.)
"Fusil, Cim, I plan to remove all Void texts from existence unless they are in the Divine Library. This should allow us to keep our knowledge on the Void while preventing the texts' corrupting influence on mortals. Doing so will help in preventing the spread of Void knowledge among mortals, including summoning rituals. At least one of them serves as a manual for summoning powerful Void beings and Yaos died before she could remove it and all other texts from existence herself. I'm telling you this because you're the two foremost experts on the Void. Are there any problems with this plan?"
A flying monkey has crashed into Fusil, screeching and thrashing and doing 2E worth of damage before disappearing!
Oracle:
Q: "Have I, Melyssa, intentionally manipulated magic, so that all mages would get hurt?"
A: "No."
The smartest seems to be an old researcher at NUKE working on making the perfect bitter bean tea.
The bravest seems to be a lone Rani who patrolled the wilderness to make sure this celebration's forest lanterns are not fire-based.
The wisest seems to be a quiet, respected town elder.
The kindest seems to be a Shadow Raven who randomly drops coins on people.
"Yes. I thought I made it clear many times before that the Void texts are one of the few ways we can have knowlage on the Void without dealing with it directly. Do you not understand this either? Do you truly think censorship and suppression will help at all? None of your anti-Void suggestions have ever made anything better ever. You should understand things more before acting.""I agree. The purpose would be to limit mortal access to the Void and its corruption, but destroying all the current texts wouldn't help much with that anyway. The Null can sometimes, somehow, calculate the Churn trajectories for objects other than themselves and send them to Bubbles. How do you think the texts came here in the first place, Malakath? We should fight the disease rather than the symptoms."
"Considering that only some mages were hurt, I'm quite certain nobody manipulated magic to hurt all mages."QuoteOracle:
Q: "Have I, Melyssa, intentionally manipulated magic, so that all mages would get hurt?"
A: "No."
"By the wording of that question, 50 bullets says she sent someone else to ask it."
"Oppose. Someone messed with your followers, until we have knowlage on what is happening there is no point in changing everything. Do you always act without knowing anything?"
(For the record, even those who don't believe in Malakath did attend those tutorials.)
"Yes. I thought I made it clear many times before that the Void texts are one of the few ways we can have knowlage on the Void without dealing with it directly. Do you not understand this either? Do you truly think censorship and suppression will help at all? None of your anti-Void suggestions have ever made anything better ever. You should understand things more before acting.""Fusil, we will still have access to the Void texts from the Divine Library. We keep all the knowledge we would've had and the mortals lose the ability to summon Void things."
((Oh god i worded that so wrong. I still swear that i'm not guilty (as far as i know) and if anyone wants to ask the oracle about my innocence, I'll pay half of it))
"You should instead ask if you've intentionally manipulated magic-use so that magic-users would get hurt.""I'll ask the question myself and you pay 2/3E. Deal?"
"Fusil, we will still have access to the Void texts from the Divine Library. We keep all the knowledge we would've had and the mortals lose the ability to summon Void things."
They are called blood-drinkers again.
"Deal."((Oh god i worded that so wrong. I still swear that i'm not guilty (as far as i know) and if anyone wants to ask the oracle about my innocence, I'll pay half of it))"You should instead ask if you've intentionally manipulated magic-use so that magic-users would get hurt.""I'll ask the question myself and you pay 2/3E. Deal?"
They are called n00bs again. And forever more. All attempts to change them will be v3t03d.Veto.
TROLLOLOLOFDDOFDOLOLOLOL!!!1!1!! < Transparent text"What about metal and leather clothing?"
Oracle question: Has the being that I identify as the goddess of Torture intentionally manipulated the system of magic-use so that magic-users would get hurt?"Deal."((Oh god i worded that so wrong. I still swear that i'm not guilty (as far as i know) and if anyone wants to ask the oracle about my innocence, I'll pay half of it))"You should instead ask if you've intentionally manipulated magic-use so that magic-users would get hurt.""I'll ask the question myself and you pay 2/3E. Deal?"
"What about metal and leather clothing?"
Fusil's blood-drinkers are called n00bs.I am ok with this.
Nature spirits are instructed to become violent only if too much damage is done to their environment.
"But everyone loves seeing other people play The Floor is Caltrops! It's the best prank!"
"Nothing much. Really."
An enterprising follower has decided to create the Mare of Vice inn and gambling house next to one. It is remembered mostly for its bright glowing welcome sign.
The poorest is a limbless, starving Rani with no money.Neron takes some ice and carves them into arms and legs for the Rani, enchanted with runes, they will never melt and act like normal limbs. In the future she shall go to a temple of Neron to thank me, run into the kind Shadow Raven, and both of them will fall in love, get married and live a long happy life.
The saddest is a fledgling who lost both parents and a grandparent to a fire.
"You have a point. I still prefer the slow way."
"Lets get rid of the lawmoe thing already. I say we just punish Azem and get it over with. All in favor of forcing him into a funny hat?""That is acceptable. Would this hat suit the purpose?"
"Why not both? Improve the economies while wearing the hat.""I can support this. He will wear a funny hat, spend 3 Essence on improving the economies of places that were hit especially hard, and will issue a public apology to all mortals for his actions."
"I don't care either way. I just don't want to be the only one in a silly hat."(I'll take this to mean you're supporting both.)
Propose that all votes towards punishing a convicted felon be disregarded if the votes come from the convicted felon itself. The felon can still propose punishments, though.
A Shinjo can now be upgraded to a Soul Weapon if both the Shinjo and its user consent and if the user has no Soul Weapon yet.
"Oppose.""The point of the proposal is to prevent the convicted - already tried and found to be guilty - felon from getting away with slaughtering half the gods and destroying both planets by suggesting he gets a slap on the wrist while the other gods are distracted."
"Veto. Don't mess with my creations, isn't it bad enough that I have to put up with you trying to make 'soul weapons', whatever that may be, without trying to mess with sentient?""Soul Weapons are fully sapient. They take the form of the weapon that their user would be best at using."
"The point of the proposal is to prevent the convicted - already tried and found to be guilty - felon from getting away with slaughtering half the gods and destroying both planets by suggesting he gets a slap on the wrist while the other gods are distracted."
"Soul Weapons are fully sapient. They take the form of the weapon that their user would be best at using."
(Maybe I shouldn't have tricked you into watching Soul Eater :-\)(Soul Eater is about a bunch of people who are born with the ability to turn into weapons. Shinjo have more in common with Soul Eater than Soul Weapons do.)
"Hey there! Would you two like to become closer and more powerful than you'd have ever thought possible? You do? Well too bad. Fusil says no because I came up with the idea first."
*Whispers*"Actually, I want nothing from you, let alone weird things. As for closeness and power, this is what I mean...."
"She is a creepy pervert who wants you to do soooooo many weird things. You don't even want to know what she meant by 'closer', and her meaning of 'powerful' taints the minds of children if spoken out loud near them. Back away slowly and carefully, the local police force can do nothing against her."
The warrior and the Shinjo receive a vision. In the vision is the same warrior and the Shinjo who is visibly different but only slightly. In the vision, they work in perfect harmony with each other, cutting down their enemies with ease unlike anything they are capable of now.
"I don't know why the goddess of Weapons is so against the idea considering that it would increase her Influence. As for "tainting the minds of children", have you seen Fusil's true form?"
The Vision is secretly vetoed. Instead, they see Malakath standing there and staring at them, creepily.Veto'd. If that doesn't work, I'll put Essence into showing them the vision.
1. Why would a random mortal see a God's true form ???1. Rhetoric
2. An elongated diamond is not safe for children?
Random warrior: "You want me to kill my WIFE for no gain!? No wonder Fusil hates you so much!""I don't know what you've just seen but it is most certainly not the truth if it showed your wife dying. Conversion to a Soul Weapon merely tightens the bond between you two, making the both of you more powerful. It's rather different from standard Soul Weapon creation and evolution. It also comes with the added bonus of you going to the same afterlife if one of you reincarnates and the other doesn't. Nobody dies, nobody gets negatively altered, and she can still take a Human form. Actually, the upgrade will allow her to take any medium-sized humanoid form. The only difference here is that he won't be able to produce another Soul Weapon. You can still have children, though."
Shinjo: "You want me to objectify MYSELF!? Can you hear what you're saying?"
(Malakath: -9E)(It cost me 2E to force all four of my constellations into existence and if I remember correctly having gods support my constellations didn't give me a discount. (I tried to find the price check but I failed.) Also, I didn't say I wanted to put Essence into blocking Fusil's vision. That was just a veto.)
(This was a very merciful make-it-cheaper opposition overriding cost. Appeals to reduce it further aren't likely to be accepted despite the general irrelevance of this whole subsubplot.)
Shinjo: "What pleasant entertainment. You two argue like an old married couple. Why don't you go bother each other instead?"
Random Warrior: "Also, no one I know with Soul Weapons can have any romance with them[1]. No deal."
Random Warrior: "Also, no one I know with Soul Weapons can have any romance with them[1]. No deal.""To be honest, your wife would have rather little in common with a regular Soul Weapon. Here's what will happen if you choose to become a....let's call it a Soul Shinjo.
Shinjo: "What pleasant entertainment. You two argue like an old married couple. Why don't you go bother each other instead?"
Malakath: The Burning Days say their unflinching, uncompromising devotion to the protection of sapients is their specialty. They offer no comment on their abilities, say they are unaligned but against those who harm sapients or allow their creations to do so, and seek only to remove godly harm to sapients completely. They warn that reports from gods about undesirable behavior are likely to be ignored for the biases of the gods."So you look down on the Knights of Restoration for keeping their abilities a secret, yet you also keep your abilities a secret. Cim, Darruth, is hypocrisy something worthy of a minor smiting?"
"Request for three blood oaths, only monetary punishment on the second, limited punishment by choral torture for the third, no soul fries."I'll let my High Priest handle it.
"I own a tower and would like to know if non-exclusive service to you provides any insurance at all against property damage."
"Why is that strange mural moving? Oh god! Is it painted in blood? What is that strange little man doing with that knife?"
Darruth: Darruth has created Runic magic but restricted access to it to permitted practioners.Unrestrict access. (0E) Runic magic has been a part of Ritual and Enchantment magic since time immemorial and is an intrinsic part of both. Darruth doesn't get exclusive access to it just for "creating" it.
Shinjo cannot turn into Soul Weapons at the moment. [RETAINS](I just noticed this. Is this because of player reasons or temporary GM reasons?)
Veto. If necessary, spend Essence to ensure the veto.Darruth: Darruth has created Runic magic but restricted access to it to permitted practioners.Unrestrict access. (0E) Runic magic has been a part of Ritual and Enchantment magic since time immemorial and is an intrinsic part of both. Darruth doesn't get exclusive access to it just for "creating" it.
Fortuna: "Fine. I'll make some game about Melyssan architecture and giant reptiles."
"Does the luck have to be good luck?"
With divine luck, many gamble there and are pleased. Soon, a gambling house and inn of similar design named the Golden Grebe opens next door. It boasts of having a very large bath. The Mare of Vice is rapidly in decline and has been forced to shift its payout balance to compensate, losing many in the process.
This is not something you would say to a god - a being of ultimate power and creation - unless you were very powerful, very stupid, or very suicidal.
"To be honest, your wife would have rather little in common with a regular Soul Weapon. Here's what will happen if you choose to become a....let's call it a Soul Shinjo.
Your soul will be tied to your husband, granting the both of you power.
This power can be increased through worship.
The soul-tie will ensure that you either both reincarnate or you both go to the same afterlife so that neither of you will have to wait alone in an afterlife before you can reincarnate unless that's what you want.
You will also be able to take on the form of any humanoid you want - not just a Human one.
Your husband will not develop a Soul Weapon.
That's all the differences between what you are and what you can be. You will keep your gender, your relations, and your romance. You will have no further similarities with a Soul Weapon than the ones I explicitly mentioned. You would be a Soul Shinjo, not a Soul Weapon. If you don't like something about the deal some constructive feedback would be useful."
This is not something you would say to a god - a being of ultimate power and creation - unless you were very powerful, very stupid, or very suicidal.
To picture how it would work in real life, I suggest you do what I sometimes do: jump off your computer for a bit, "reacquaint" yourself with the world, then imagine God deciding to come down and talk to YOU of all the billions of people in the world. Now imagine telling him to not bother you while you're watching a rerun of House. It's not very realistic, is it?
Sure the gods in this universe interact with the world much more commonly but you have to put yourself in the shoes of someone who lives there. Most people - especially of this tech level - are unlikely to ever see a god or witness them performing works, let alone actually speak to one. Yes we talk to a lot of people but that amount numbers about fifty at the very most every century but there are millions of people in the world.
This has been on my mind for a while. It is a critique of how you handle NPCs and I hope you don't hold me against it.
Unrestrict access. (0E) Runic magic has been a part of Ritual and Enchantment magic since time immemorial and is an intrinsic part of both. Darruth doesn't get exclusive access to it just for "creating" it.
No it hasn't. This is completely new, I actually did create it, it's actually rather specific, and no you aren't letting random people have access to it. So, uh, this'll be the first time I ever say this, I think, because it's the first time I've ever been in a position to enforce it. (also, was the fact that it cost me Essence not enough evidence fr you?) By the way, I'm not just doing this to be a dick. The power in Rune Magic means I don't want some mortal accidentally or maliciously blowing up a planet.
How about making a game about the gods? Players can role-play as the god of their choice - decisions made by rolling your five-sided die, as well as other n-sided die - and have to try to eliminate the other players from the game some way. That would be great fun!
"A game about us? What would you call such a thing? A strange notion, indeed."
Melyssa appears before convicted criminals to torture them to death.
No it hasn't. This is completely new, I actually did create it, it's actually rather specific, and no you aren't letting random people have access to it. So, uh, this'll be the first time I ever say this, I think, because it's the first time I've ever been in a position to enforce it. (also, was the fact that it cost me Essence not enough evidence fr you?) By the way, I'm not just doing this to be a dick. The power in Rune Magic means I don't want some mortal accidentally or maliciously blowing up a planet.(I'm guessing the details of your version of Rune Magic was sent in secret to the GM? Because if it's not special and it's just enchanted runes or something then Imma riot.)
Also, gods are neither omnipotent nor omniscient nor indeed anywhere near either.(They are neither omnipotent nor omniscient but for all intents and purposes they are ultimate.)
(That was before all sapient races were upgraded with enhanced common-sense.)QuoteThis is not something you would say to a god - a being of ultimate power and creation - unless you were very powerful, very stupid, or very suicidal.
(I'm reminded of a certain hummingbird who got away with insulting gods for numerous ticks without any serious consequence. Actually if I recall correctly I even rewarded him as a joke.)
Adding to what the others said, this *is* a weapon we are talking about. Weapons are not exactly known for having a surplus of fear. Especially not when you are already threatening her soul, by attempting to transform it into something that it isn't and doesn't want to be.(Good point on the weapon thing. I'm not threatening her and I'm not attempting anything yet. I'm offering something with no drawbacks and great rewards. She doesn't want to be what I'm offering because she thinks there's penalties or a price to be paid or something when there really isn't.)
(As for mortals blastheming against gods, when it comes to a timescale of most mortals, divine miracles are few and far inbetween. They do not believe that we have the time of day to smite them, and if we did, chances are we would be validating their claims against us. Our presense is further diluted by our methods. We would hardly manifest for comuning with mortals, usualy speaking through dreams visions and whispers. All of which could be replicated by a competent magician. I personaly do not care too much, as it does not reduce efectiveness of mesage one bit.)(If we have the time of day to talk to them then we have the time of day to smite them, even if that just means punching them in the face. We can very easily manifest for communing with mortals considering that we can very easily manifest for actually going down to the Corporeal Realm and fighting giant bug parasites.)
No it hasn't. This is completely new, I actually did create it, it's actually rather specific, and no you aren't letting random people have access to it. So, uh, this'll be the first time I ever say this, I think, because it's the first time I've ever been in a position to enforce it. (also, was the fact that it cost me Essence not enough evidence fr you?) By the way, I'm not just doing this to be a dick. The power in Rune Magic means I don't want some mortal accidentally or maliciously blowing up a planet.(I'm guessing the details of your version of Rune Magic was sent in secret to the GM? Because if it's not special and it's just enchanted runes or something then Imma riot.)
(So it's two branches of Enchantment magic mixed in with a bit of Universal. Nice. The problem I have is that you decided to name this very specific branch of magic "runic" magic when a whole bunch of other magical branches use runes in general. Maybe call it tattoo magic? It sounds less mystical but it's a lot more accurate.)
EDIT: (Give me a bit and I'll write up a design document that describes tattoo magic better. I (pl.) rather like categorising magic. I'm just lucky that I turned out to be de facto goddess of Magic as well!)
(They are neither omnipotent nor omniscient but for all intents and purposes they are ultimate.)
(That was before all sapient races were upgraded with enhanced common-sense.)
(Good point on the weapon thing. I'm not threatening her and I'm not attempting anything yet. I'm offering something with no drawbacks and great rewards. She doesn't want to be what I'm offering because she thinks there's penalties or a price to be paid or something when there really isn't.)
(If we have the time of day to talk to them then we have the time of day to smite them, even if that just means punching them in the face. We can very easily manifest for communing with mortals considering that we can very easily manifest for actually going down to the Corporeal Realm and fighting giant bug parasites.)
(So it's two branches of Enchantment magic mixed in with a bit of Universal. Nice. The problem I have is that you decided to name this very specific branch of magic "runic" magic when a whole bunch of other magical branches use runes in general. Maybe call it tattoo magic? It sounds less mystical but it's a lot more accurate.)
EDIT: (Give me a bit and I'll write up a design document that describes tattoo magic better. I (pl.) rather like categorising magic. I'm just lucky that I turned out to be de facto goddess of Magic as well!)
The science and magic of medicine should be studied more. Lets build a Medical University. Sounds like fun.
((http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rune?s=t))(Tattoos are the stuff you put on your skin. The stuff described in that definition refers to letters.)
Edit: ((So no, not tattoo magic, it is runic magic))
((Uh, no. I didn't describe how it worked(on purpose). I just said that for it to work you have to get those. I would have told you more, but I thought better of it. I still need to give KJP a bit more info on how it works, after all, and/or see if he has already worked out the way it will work based on what I've told him so far. Also, sidenote and rather semantic but it will bug me otherwise: Runic Magic, not Rune Magic. I'm fairly certain Rune Magic is indeed a form of Enchantment, probably the one needed for Runic Magic, in fact.(SEMANTIIIIIIICS!!!! Truly my greatest enemy, bureaucrats aside. No. Why did what cost so much? Yes.)
The word Rune just lost all meaning for me...))
((Also other sidenote: Remember the bit where Yaos said he was revamping the costs system? Yeah. That's why it cost that much. Gonna retract your opposition to the restriction now? It may have been hyperbole about blowing up planets, but this shit is or might be powerful enough to inflict some serious harm in the wrong hands. I'd rather not risk finding out. Although I suppose the same could be said for any magic. Nonetheless.))
The science and magic of medicine should be studied more. Lets build a Medical University. Sounds like fun.[/b]
Except when it involves the Void, other Gods, flying monkeys, or otherwise a significantly powerful creature...(How about this: we are ultimate by default but we are not always ultimate.)
Remember, we are a lot like the Greek Gods, who could even get beat up by mortals who put in a good effort (the Illiad, where Ares gets stabbed by some guy blessed by Athena, for example.) We ain't as tough as you think we are.
That never happened. The proposal was shot down.(Darruth or Cim or someone else manually made every sapient race have enhanced common-sense. Since it costs 0E to give a race enhanced common-sense, it could be given to every race entirely free of charge and that's why they were able to do it.)
As KJP pointed out, you are either lying or changed what you want a Soul weapon to be.(You haven't been paying attention, have you? I'm offering to change her into a Soul Shinjo not a Soul Weapon. I've already stated the differences between a Soul Shinjo and Soul Weapon. You can look back and read them if you want.)
Why does that quote have my name on it? ???(Because I f*cked it all up. You should've seen that post before I edited it.)
((Also, hell no are we calling the bullshit FMA-stuff the standard Alchemy. *sighs**regrets overly strong language* Look. I look at the DnD and similar fantasy setting RPGs uses of Alchemy as defining what Alchemy is(not necessarily potions, that's just the most common example; powders and things like that fall under it too; Alchemists are the ones who deal with gunpowder in fantasy settings, to my way of thinking, typically). FMA is just Transmutation magic. Can we just call it that? It's accurate, and it's what they call the process (Transmuting, not magic) in the anime, if I remember right.(Yes! Perfect! I only wanted to call it alchemy because I couldn't think of something better (a common theme with me). This is perfect! It's not magic, though. It'll just becalled "transmutation" or "transmutative science".)
There's just no way I can be okay with calling what the Armstrong Alchemist does Alchemy. It's awesome, alright, but it ain't Alchemy.))
If it's not gonna bankrupt me at this point, create Ley Lines, don't use the Definitely and Totally Not Rubber Chicken Magical Block Factories. temporal stuff with them too.
(Tattoos are the stuff you put on your skin. The stuff described in that definition refers to letters.)
(I just got ninja'd by two people. I'll post now and then read them.)
(How about this: we are ultimate by default but we are not always ultimate.)
(Darruth or Cim or someone else manually made every sapient race have enhanced common-sense. Since it costs 0E to give a race enhanced common-sense, it could be given to every race entirely free of charge and that's why they were able to do it.)
(You haven't been paying attention, have you? I'm offering to change her into a Soul Shinjo not a Soul Weapon. I've already stated the differences between a Soul Shinjo and Soul Weapon. You can look back and read them if you want.)
Veto. "Firstly, I am against creating magical "hotspots" in the first place because it sounds woefully arbitrary. Secondly, and this reason is much more important, it is VERY dangerous considering recent events. People were bleeding, losing limbs, and even dying from using the slightest bit of magic. What would happen if the very planet started flowing with magic? What would happen if someone decided to use one of these magical hotspots? These hotspots are situated under major cities. Do you know what kind of damage that could do?"
I will say this first: If you wish to make major changes to my projects, simply by threatening veto until I give in...well, that's simply unfair, to put it in what might be a childish way. For major changes to my systems, as you and your predecessor Yaos have both demanded, require some contribution to the project."I fail to see how it's childish. You attempted to create something I believe shouldn't exist and thus I tried to stop it. You changed the parts I was most against and I will allow it. It's not about you giving in - it's about the actual effects of your actions. What makes you think I am Yaos' successor? Just because I ate his angels doesn't mean I'm trying to carry his torch."
Does this satisfy you, God of Souls?"No it does not. Aside from the things I am firmly against I still don't like the existence of ley lines in any form. I'm only barely willing to tolerate them. Also, address me as Goddess of Souls."
"As this will be a useful experiment, and just to spite Malakath, I will support the laylines in order to undo her veto. I will remove this unveto under two conditions:"I'm already supporting Azem wearing a funny hat."
Malakath picks up a Fusil-darned book and learns something about what she is talking about for once in her life
And she supports forcing Azem into a silly hat. "
I was referring to the manner in which I phrased it when I spoke of childish. Meanwhile you are opposing it out of...what? Spite? The same as Fusil is doing? This makes me feel vastly better about his supporting me out of spite. Indeed, it changes my stance on the matter from 'skeptical but happy' to 'highly amused and still happy'."Are you honestly comparing me to Fusil? Are you honestly accusing me of bullying you? I don't go around threatening other gods, their angels, and their creations just to get what I want. I don't want ley lines at all - AT. ALL. I could just veto it all and end it there but I'm trying to compromise and allow it to exist at least partially. I'll still dislike it but I'll dislike it less. I cannot overemphasise the fact that while I could just stop you from making them altogether. I'm just negotiating out of the kindness of my heart because I know how much you want this and I don't want to prevent you from doing everything - just the parts I hate the most."
Why would I spend essence on something that wouldn't affect something? This isn't mean to be a pet project. It's a large addition, especially when coupled with Geomancy. And I will go through with it, because I do not require your permission.
And besides that, my issue is at heart about you believing you have the right to go about and change things you have no stake in by bullying people in a way that is arguably worse than Fusil's method of intimidation; at least his is usually threats at first, and he only does it when it actually directly affects him or his followers! Well, unless he feels insulted, but that could be argued to be affecting him. You, meanwhile, change things you don't like, oh, say, the aesthetics of by denying them the ability to do anything until they do it the way you want them to. It encourages duplicity and dishonesty by punishing gods for doing things publicly, rather than privately.
Finally, you and Yaos share a number of characteristics in common...
"This is so boring, What ever happened to gods being stabbed in the back left and right! Wake me up when someone dies."
Override Veto.Veto.
"By "end it there" I simply meant I could spend Essence to prevent its creation."Override Veto.Veto.
Veto!Veto
Just fight to the death or have a war or something.
Support
I'm not sure of that actually, given what I've spent on Runic Magic so far, and some other projects. However, if Azem isn't currently nursing a headache from all of this, which I suspect he is, he has more than enough Essence to lend me if he thinks it's worth it to do so."By "end it there" I simply meant I could spend Essence to prevent its creation."Override Veto.Veto.
Veto!
"You could do it once with what essence you have. He has enough to make it even with your disapproval."
Wait, why am I fighting a war to the death for Durrath? :-\
Wait, why am I fighting a war to the death for Durrath? :-\
I'm not sure of that actually, given what I've spent on Runic Magic so far, and some other projects. However, if Azem isn't currently nursing a headache from all of this, which I suspect he is, he has more than enough Essence to lend me if he thinks it's worth it to do so.
*cough* I mean, you're not making any progress in your discussions with Malakath so far. The logical elevation of the argument is violence.
It isn't even my conversation. I just joined out of spite.
Actually, I think this is our largest difference in ideology. The way I think of it, if you display weakness whilst having strength, it leads your foes to underestimate you. And to defeat a foe from a position of weakness is all the more impressive a display of strength. Similar with using honorable tactics against a dishonorable foe; if you beat them, you prove that you are capable of overcoming them even from a disadvantageous position. Both views have their merits, I feel.QuoteI'm not sure of that actually, given what I've spent on Runic Magic so far, and some other projects. However, if Azem isn't currently nursing a headache from all of this, which I suspect he is, he has more than enough Essence to lend me if he thinks it's worth it to do so.
"You fool! You are showing weakness. Never show weakness!"
To help relieve tension, my cat challenges Tykki to a duel in the Death Battle Plane! You can all come and watch if you want!
Carry Kit to the DBP. By the way, she should always be with me in the council chambers.
((Why don't we spill yours, then, if you are so eager? >:D :P))
SupportJust fight to the death or have a war or something.
Support
To help relieve tension, my cat challenges Tykki to a duel in the Death Battle Plane! You can all come and watch if you want!
Carry Kit to the DBP. By the way, she should always be with me in the council chambers.
... veto?
"VETOED!"
Just fight to the death or have a war or something.Oppose
"VETOED!"
Gently pats Fusil
Calm down dear, it's only a fight to the death.
"I suddenly remembered that I was going to stay out of politcking with other gods. Therefore, I unveto everything to do with ley lines. Try to be safe with your creations Darruth. Besides that, I wish you well and I hope we can work well together in the future."
unveto everything to do with ley lines.
((Bugger relieving tension, I want to see BLOOD!))
Be the change that you wish to see in the world. :P
I disagree vehemently, Grauel, and my power, while decently significant, I feel, is tied up in things not relating to angelic or godly combat. You just want to watch people fight. You've said it before, more or less.
Oppose
"I suddenly remembered that I was going to stay out of politcking with other gods. Therefore, I unveto everything to do with ley lines. Try to be safe with your creations Darruth. Besides that, I wish you well and I hope we can work well together in the future."
((What I said was true. It had nothing to do with the recent attempts to get us into a fight but it DID have to do with me eating IRL and feeling happier for it. Mood swings ho!)
In honor of my newfound possible/almost-was ally:unveto everything to do with ley lines.
Veto
"Once again, threatening violence is the real answer. Too bad this proposal will pass and we will be forced to fight!""That proposal only refers to Darruth and I."
"I'm confused. Are you facepalming his attempted vetoing of my unvetoing of YOUR creation? Just do what you want. I won't try to stop you or veto you. I don't want to fight the god of Good. I disagree with you when it comes to niceness but I do appreciate the concept you embody as a whole. What say I make it up to you by helping with your ley lines?"In honor of my newfound possible/almost-was ally:unveto everything to do with ley lines.
VetoSpoiler (click to show/hide)
"Speaking of making up with the other gods, Fusil, do you want to make an artifact forge with me? It would be capable of creating weapons at zero Essence cost. It costs 15-25 Essence to make and would probably cost less if we limited the forge's capabilities to weapon-creation only. Are you interested?"
"That proposal only refers to Darruth and I."
"Speaking of making up with the other gods, Fusil, do you want to make an artifact forge with me? It would be capable of creating weapons at zero Essence cost. It costs 15-25 Essence to make and would probably cost less if we limited the forge's capabilities to weapon-creation only. Are you interested?"
"I'm still not really sure which forms of crime exist, but i'll keep it to murderers for now"Melyssa appears before convicted criminals to torture them to death.
"...Could you at least put some qualifiers on that? Type of crime, at least? If you go around killing petty thieves who worship me with your sphere I will kill you with mine."
"Now why don't you numbskulls knocks it off before I, err, it's really hard to make dull shinies and paperwork sound threatening. Even if my last curse supposedly did kill people."
As for this whole higly amusing discusion, I'm more interested in what would happen should one mine through a leyline. Or explode one. Or redirect one to space using magic. These are all questions some mad scientist is going to ask himself one day, and you'd better have answers."I'd use these arguments if I was still against ley lines. But I'm not. So I won't. I'm a bit curious why you would think a mad scientist would be responsible for the apocalypse, though. Most of them are under the watchful eye of an institution, the rest aren't smart enough to join such an institution, and a mad wizard is more likely to use magic for evil than a mad scientist."
I propose that any disagreement between two, and no more than two gods would be solved by combat.[/color][/glow]Oppose. "This seems like a deliberate attempt to provide a means for old, powerful, or combat-aligned gods to get whatever they want from younger, weaker, or combat-unaligned gods in a legal manner."
Emerald tentacles spring from Azem's back.
As for this whole higly amusing discusion, I'm more interested in what would happen should one mine through a leyline. Or explode one. Or redirect one to space using magic. These are all questions some mad scientist is going to ask himself one day, and you'd better have answers.
"I had assumed these would be metaphysical, or some kind of spirit, lines without physical presence in the world."
"First Malakath steals my motif, now you? It doesn't even make since! I use tentacles to hold more guns, you just have tentacles for the sake of it. Complete rip offs. Tentacle dragons? Absurd."Wasn't the void using tentacles before you ever were?
If imposibility stood in the way of true science, nothing would ever get done. When somone wakes up with an idea and gets obsesed with it, metaphysical mines wil be realised within a decade.
Wasn't the void using tentacles before you ever were?
QuoteEmerald tentacles spring from Azem's back.
"First Malakath steals my motif, now you? It doesn't even make since! I use tentacles to hold more guns, you just have tentacles for the sake of it. Complete rip offs. Tentacle dragons? Absurd."QuoteAs for this whole higly amusing discusion, I'm more interested in what would happen should one mine through a leyline. Or explode one. Or redirect one to space using magic. These are all questions some mad scientist is going to ask himself one day, and you'd better have answers.
"I had assumed these would be metaphysical, or some kind of spirit, lines without physical presence in the world."
"Since this seems to be an actual proposal now, I support."Veto
VetoSupportJust fight to the death or have a war or something.
Support
VetoSupportJust fight to the death or have a war or something.
Support
Automatic veto of any attempts to veto these vetos.
"I propose that Council votes and vetos cannot be veto'd. To exemplify the problem, let me do this...."Support both."Since this seems to be an actual proposal now, I support."VetoVetoSupportJust fight to the death or have a war or something.
SupportVetoSupportJust fight to the death or have a war or something.
Support
Automatic veto of any attempts to veto these vetos.
"I also propose that vetos can only work if they're made publicly. It's bad enough that we (and by that I mean all the rest of you) always try to secretly undermine each-other but at least we're creative when we do so. Secret vetos are obstructive, annoying, they stifle creativity, and they prevent real resolutions to problems."
Oppose bothAutomatic veto of any attempts to veto these vetos.
((This is what I was talking about...))
Oppose both those proposals
You seem to be making assumptions again, Malakath. People work in secret because they don't want people to know about their opposition.
The reason I supported you fighting Fusil was exactly this. You make assumptions on how things work, and expect everyone to think that way too. You tell others their creations aren't right and tell them how to fix it. Just because you think it's not right, doesn't mean to say it's wrong.
I propose we silence Malakath.
and
I propose we take away Malakath's right to veto.
Oppose both those proposals"Fortuna, only one of those proposals had to do with secret actions. The other had to do with vetoing Council votes and votoing other vetos. Can you at least state why you dislike that proposal?"
You seem to be making assumptions again, Malakath. People work in secret because they don't want people to know about their opposition.
The reason I supported you fighting Fusil was exactly this. You make assumptions on how things work, and expect everyone to think that way too. You tell others their creations aren't right and tell them how to fix it. Just because you think it's not right, doesn't mean to say it's wrong.
I propose we silence Malakath.
and
I propose we take away Malakath's right to veto.
Oppose both those proposals"Fortuna, only one of those proposals had to do with secret actions. The other had to do with vetoing Council votes and votoing other vetos. Can you at least state why you dislike that proposal?"
You seem to be making assumptions again, Malakath. People work in secret because they don't want people to know about their opposition.
The reason I supported you fighting Fusil was exactly this. You make assumptions on how things work, and expect everyone to think that way too. You tell others their creations aren't right and tell them how to fix it. Just because you think it's not right, doesn't mean to say it's wrong.
I propose we silence Malakath.
and
I propose we take away Malakath's right to veto.
Oppose both of Fortuna's proposals.
Veto
"I also propose that vetos can only work if they're made publicly. It's bad enough that we (and by that I mean all the rest of you) always try to secretly undermine each-other but at least we're creative when we do so. Secret vetos are obstructive, annoying, they stifle creativity, and they prevent real resolutions to problems."
((This is what I was talking about...))
Automatic veto of any attempts to veto these vetos.
"Fortuna, only one of those proposals had to do with secret actions. The other had to do with vetoing Council votes and votoing other vetos. Can you at least state why you dislike that proposal?"
Propose that whenever a god vetos, they are unable to veto anything else for 3 ticks
Proposethat whenever something gets vetoed, it can not be proposed again for 10 ticks.
((We could always cover Tykki with stickers and makeup and have her beat Malakath to death with a musket...))
Automatic veto of any attempts to veto these vetos.
Since it doesn't work this way, I might as well autoveto your autovetos, creating an infinite string of vetoes that must be destroyed at all costs.
"Because you don't understand what the word veto means? Essentially, a Veto acts as an opposition. In fact, trying to free-veto a council proposal is effectively an opposition. Vetoes are effectively an oppose vote for non-council actions. Do you know anything about anything?"
Since it doesn't work this way, I might as well autoveto your autovetos, creating an infinite string of vetoes that must be destroyed at all costs.Veto
"Because you don't understand what the word veto means? Essentially, a Veto acts as an opposition. In fact, trying to free-veto a council proposal is effectively an opposition. Vetoes are effectively an oppose vote for non-council actions. Do you know anything about anything?""My proposal relates to vetoing Council votes - not Council proposals."
Actually, like I said, nobody should have the power of veto over council votes yet anyway."If you really think this then by the gods why did you oppose my first proposal? It would prevent the very thing you don't want happening."
Propose that whenever a god vetos, they are unable to veto anything else for 3 ticksOppose both.
Propose that whenever something gets vetoed, it can not be proposed again for 10 ticks.
"My proposal relates to vetoing Council votes - not Council proposals."
((Make it a squeaky hammer instead of a musket, and I'll support everything you do that isn't against me :P))
"You can't veto council votes either ::). How would that even work?"
Spoiler: Godzilla Threshold Reached (click to show/hide)
Azem sprouts tentacles again, just to annoy Fusil.
"If that proposal of Darruth's actually passes, I will be sorely tempted to enact a second great Curse to punish you all for your collection stupidity and ignorance. And you won't be able to do anything about it."
((This is why I propose silencing Malakath. The refusal of Andres to listen to anyone else on any subject is bizarre, and somewhat annoying, and at least I won't have to argue about the meaning of the word veto for a very long time))(Oh the irony! Before I read this post I was going to say how I was wrong to think what I thought and I should defer judgement to better gods. I'm still going to do that because I'm not a spiteful person and you're right.)
Fortuna: "But there's a bunch of Muses who made that centuries ago, and they might send me a team of Lawmancers if I copy their idea!"
"You will be pleased, I'm sure!"
Fortuna has established a Gaming Commission which very few gambling halls have agreed to join so far. The main complaints seem to be from the curse and the restriction on names, which they feel restricts their selection unnecessarily given the capricious nature of luck.
Tycho seems to be doing very well. He has taken to wearing a coat half of gilded thread and half of torn rags. His preferred method of spreading Fortuna's message seems to be conning targets into thinking he can bestow gifts of luck through belief and generous donations.
The traveling entertainers have acquired a reputation as the only group that neglects safety nets, backstops, and properly built cages completely and are currently touring in the general direction of the Golden Grebe.
Tick 96: Annoyance Ascended(Finally! A decent title that actually relates to what happened in open IC! I knew this day would come! /half-joke)
RANDOM WARRIOR: (whispered) Why would I want to say something so silly!?"I have given you an offer that brings great rewards with no downsides. So long as the bond between you is strong, you'll always have the option to make the conversion. I will leave you two now."
Face of the Burning Day: "We never said we despised them for that."
Another order of knights, the Knights of the Burning Day, have formed on the same day far away from the Knights of Restoration. Somehow, they know of the Knights of Restoration and look down on them.
The Burning Days state that they operate transparently and were told by their founder of the Bellators. They seem to be against secrecy and subterfuge.The Bellatorus Sanatores don't do subterfuge.
Malakath:"Azem and Darruth are your best bets - especially Darruth. Fusil is more likely to favour the people who damage your property and Cim's dislike of lawmancy may negatively affect his decision to help you."
"Maybe I'll just go ask someone else. Order, Protection, Wealth, and Weapons seem to be likely candidates."
"I am so calm right now! So calm! Even though the little man locked the door and is sharpening that knife!"
Malakath attempts to unrestrict access to Darruth's Runic magic. Without knowing the actual details of its operation, this will have only little or no success."Sorry about that. I thought I'd cancelled that action." Stop attempting to unrestrict access to Runic Magic. "I'd still appreciate it if you called it something else."
Angel priests have been sent out to tour Muman, Mountwyrm, Human, Dwarf, Merperson, Wood Elf, Luminee, Night Elf, and Hummingbird capitals. Those touring the Night Elf capitals have been asked to leave by shadowy figures.
(Where does 510 000 come from?)(Starting population of 300k + population boom.)
RANDOM WARRIOR: (whispered) Why would I want to say something so silly!?
The anti-Void tactics seem to consist of interrogation and purging.
Kit challenges Tykki to a duel in the DBP. While this is not the first colloquial catfight, it is the first near-literal one. Fortuna has stepped in to block this from happening. Fusil has accepted on Tykki's behalf and ignored Fortuna.
Spoiler: OOC in IC clutter; look here first if something didn't happen (click to show/hide)
*Still whispering* "She will walk away and never suspect a thing!"*Whispering* "Either that or she'll walk away on her own regardless." ((What I'm doing now. It was written in my IC action.))
"Why did you pick up a book on the inquisition anyway ::)? I meant someone who knows what they are talking about.""Because you asked me to pick up a Fusil-darned book and I thought that a book written by what I assume to be a Fusil-darned organisation would also be Fusil-darned. I'll pick up another book, then."
*Whispering* "Either that or she'll walk away on her own regardless." ((What I'm doing now. It was written in my IC action.))
Should we maybe, you know, warn our worshipers of the dangers of tentacle monsters?
I really don't want this game devolving into a bad hentai movie...
Do snake like tendrils count as tentacles? Because if they do, I had them before anyone. Not sure if it's something to be proud of though... they just seemed useful for eating really quickly.
Should we maybe, you know, warn our worshipers of the dangers of tentacle monsters?
I really don't want this game devolving into a bad hentai movie...
"One of the most populous races, the Armu, are what you call 'tentacle monsters'. What game are you talking about anyway, and what in Fusil's name is a hentai movie?"QuoteDo snake like tendrils count as tentacles? Because if they do, I had them before anyone. Not sure if it's something to be proud of though... they just seemed useful for eating really quickly.
"It is not the tentacles they are stealing, it is the motif! Everyone has hands, but if I made an entire motif centered around hands then it would be stealing to steal it."
Edit:Should we maybe, you know, warn our worshipers of the dangers of tentacle monsters?
I really don't want this game devolving into a bad hentai movie...
((I think it's bed time))
Spoiler: Deathbells (click to show/hide)
Atropos grabs a hand full of dust and blows it onto the worlds, where it grows into the first deathbells.Lady Vandire and the mage guild of Odolhirum (the Tailwyrm city) prepare a magic barrier that repels deathbell butterflies from the city (similar to bug-repellant) that also destroys all deathbell seeds within the city walls. This will also destroy any seeds that have already been "planted" but it will leave the host entirely unharmed. Walking Deathbells will be completely unharmed by the barrier. I will keep close supervision over creation of the barrier so that I'll be able to spot any divine or non-divine attempts to prevent or tamper with the barrier.Spoiler: Deathbells (click to show/hide)
"Hello new God! I am Quéßäre, the God of Deception. It is nice to meet you."
Thank you for the greetings all. Now bear with me as I yet know your names. Thank you for the well wishes and advice. What is the name of he who asked for me to join them in creating a pantheon?
"Hello new God! I am Quéßäre, the God of Deception. It is nice to meet you."
Thank you for the greetings all. Now bear with me as I yet know your names. Thank you for the well wishes and advice. What is the name of he who asked for me to join them in creating a pantheon?
"This was my color first.""Hello new God! I am Quéßäre, the God of Deception. It is nice to meet you."
Thank you for the greetings all. Now bear with me as I yet know your names. Thank you for the well wishes and advice. What is the name of he who asked for me to join them in creating a pantheon?
Why, yes, I can see this geting mighty confusing very quicly.
Is this better?
This? The one that looks a bit like wheat in a field"If I still had any eyes, they'd have shriveled up because of that color. If you want to take the color of wheat, you might want to pick goldenrod (#DAA520)."
This?"Ah yes, that looks wonderful. But the choice is still yours"
"So is there a process I must go through to create my own race of worshipers?
"Also, don't pay Malakath for anything ever. She is a greedy fool who overcharges for everything. For four essence, you could build your own temples."
(4E was an accident. Actual price was 3E.)
"Perhaps just 2E then? It's certainly cheaper to have a goddess have her hundreds of thousands of followers worship you than creating hundreds of thousands of followers."
(4E was an accident. Actual price was 3E.)
"Perhaps just 2E then? It's certainly cheaper to have a goddess have her hundreds of thousands of followers worship you than creating hundreds of thousands of followers."
"I think I'll just make my own race and let undecideds come if they want. So making my own race I just shape a few and sprinkle them onto the planet? Also yes I would like to transfer the two essence for a temple to be built in my name in(Malacath's?) capital city.
((I just describe a race and number and say that I put a few on one planet and a few in the other?))
"It cost me 4 Essence to create 300,000 followers. For 2 Essence, you can get yourself 510,000 worshippers. You could try convincing them to worship you by yourself but it'll be easier if you have their primary god vouch for you. The choice is yours."
((... Cyrix not Cryxis... I don't blame the confusion though because Cyrix is just a jumbled form of my username))(Fixed. Tell me if you prefer a different adjective.)
"I still want the temples and they have been made. If nothing else it has given me a friend and a starting basis of worship."If you're interested, we could form a permanent pantheon together. What that means is that my worshippers will be encouraged to worship you and vice-versa. It slightly decreases worship quality but provides a net gain of Essence from worship quantity. At least I think that's how it works."
"If you're interested, we could form a permanent pantheon together. What that means is that my worshippers will be encouraged to worship you and vice-versa. It slightly decreases worship quality but provides a net gain of Essence from worship quantity."
You young gods are all so loose when it comes to forming pantheons."Want to form a pantheon with me?"
Though the Havens(shorter name for Cities of Good, easier, fits better) should already have some shrines and temples to the other gods, I believe I finally have some spare time/ability/Essence.
Let's build some Pantheon Courts, shall we?Spoiler: Pantheon Court (click to show/hide)
A rather belated welcome, Cyrix. It's a nice change to see a god of something most definitely positive arrive. Though I neglected to welcome Raptil, as well...my apologies, Lord of the Hunt. I have a sneaking suspicion you two might get along quite well...
Quote"If you're interested, we could form a permanent pantheon together. What that means is that my worshippers will be encouraged to worship you and vice-versa. It slightly decreases worship quality but provides a net gain of Essence from worship quantity."
"...That took seconds. Normally Ki'Tork is the only one to offer pantheons (which he has already done). Malakath must have a crush on Cyrix or something."
"I would like to accept both of those pantheon invitations as well. Though I'm not sure how much essence I would like to spend on them, I suppose the two from the dealing with my temples would just be moved to creating small market place temples in the pantheons, I'm sure mortals would love a place to get cheap food during their worshiping"
"Want to form a pantheon with me?"
"I would like to accept both of those pantheon invitations as well. Though I'm not sure how much essence I would like to spend on them, I suppose the two from the dealing with my temples would just be moved to creating small market place temples in the pantheons, I'm sure mortals would love a place to get cheap food during their worshiping""Keep in mind that the person who just offered that pantheon invitation was Quéßäre (pronounced Kay-bar), god of Deception and Guile. His pantheon also includes KI'Tork, god of Kitchens and Satisfaction. Keep in mind that pantheons are pretty much alliances. Being allies to two different groups of people may result in issues in the future."
I believe Malakath is rather worried about the prospect of having several gods, or even just one of the most powerful ones, go to war with her. She desires allies."That's not it at all. This new god is active, kind, and has a sphere that's aligned with improving the lives of people. His existence has also accelerated my plans and the final step should be implemented next Tick. Don't worry, it's nothing malicious. I'm actually rather excited to present it to the other gods."
"If I remember correctly, you could make hundreds if not thousands of temples for 2E...""That's insane. It cost Khaziraad - god of Architecture - 3 Essence just to build one castle. One that's very strong, beautiful, and has inspired many within the city to worship him, yes, but it's still just one castle."
(pronounced Kay-bar)((wait what? I thought is was Ku-Weh-Sah-Ree ??? ))
I have decided to officialize the name Quéßäre (pronounced "kay-bar and typed by using the accented version of "s" ß).
Ah okay. I'll probably still keep calling him Kuwehsaree out of habit :PI have decided to officialize the name Quéßäre (pronounced "kay-bar and typed by using the accented version of "s" ß).
I believe, actually, that we've become somewhat tiered in power, and the only reason Fusil doesn't appear to be in the top tier based on essence total is because he died once. Cim, Grauel, possibly Azem, possibly Kli, and probably Fusil are all in the top tier, myself, Khaziraad, possibly Azem and Kli if they aren't top-tier, and I think Neron are in the mid-high tier, while Malakath, KI'Tork, Atropos, and deary me there are a lot of gods to to go through aren't there.
"I just realised I did not properly introduce myself. I am Lord Malakath Lecta, Goddess of Souls and Blood. My sphere of Souls makes me de facto goddess of Magic since magic comes from the soul. The constellations and Darruth's ley lines provide an alternative and less-efficient form of magic."
"That's not it at all. This new god is active, kind, and has a sphere that's aligned with improving the lives of people. His existence has also accelerated my plans and the final step should be implemented next Tick. Don't worry, it's nothing malicious. I'm actually rather excited to present it to the other gods."
"That's insane. It cost Khaziraad - god of Architecture - 3 Essence just to build one castle. One that's very strong, beautiful, and has inspired many within the city to worship him, yes, but it's still just one castle."
"I was actually just making a joke to illustrate your point. I wouldn't just ask some random God I've never worked with before to form a Pantheon for real."Want to form a pantheon with me?"
I won't ally with anyone I haven't worked with on at least a few projects together. If you want to work on some projects together, contact me privately. I'm a bit more selective than I used to be though and I only work on projects that interest me now.
"I was right about the crush""Its Yaos and Joha all over again." :P
"Its Yaos and Joha all over again." :P"Yaos and Joha? Yaos' angels don't remember Yaos having any such feelings for her. She was more interested in that Martial Arts god from a while ago, but that was obvious to all, I think."
Azem stands up from this usual sitting/laying position."And the backstabbing, cant forget the backstabbing."
"I am Azem, the world's Goldfather, he of shiniest scales and sharpest claws, the hoardkeeper. Welcome. Please enjoy your exist in our pleasant bubble full of suspicion and deception."
VetoAzem stands up from this usual sitting/laying position."And the backstabbing, cant forget the backstabbing."
"I am Azem, the world's Goldfather, he of shiniest scales and sharpest claws, the hoardkeeper. Welcome. Please enjoy your exist in our pleasant bubble full of suspicion and deception."
"Do not start this again."VetoAzem stands up from this usual sitting/laying position."And the backstabbing, cant forget the backstabbing."
"I am Azem, the world's Goldfather, he of shiniest scales and sharpest claws, the hoardkeeper. Welcome. Please enjoy your exist in our pleasant bubble full of suspicion and deception."
"You'd probably be doing me a favor."
"You'd probably be doing me a favor.""You don't need death, you just need a proper vacation. Let me take your soul. Once inside me, you'll feel ultimate comfort. No worries, no pain, no dealing with other gods. Just peace. All I need is your consent."
"You don't need death, you just need a proper vacation. Let me take your soul. Once inside me, you'll feel ultimate comfort. No worries, no pain, no dealing with other gods. Just endless peace. All I need is your consent."
You're a very loose god, Malakath. Trying to entice Cyrix, now you're going after an old one mere minutes later!"You'd probably be doing me a favor.""You don't need death, you just need a proper vacation. Let me take your soul. Once inside me, you'll feel ultimate comfort. No worries, no pain, no dealing with other gods. Just peace. All I need is your consent."
It hasn't been extraordinarily eventful lately, unless I'm missing something blatantly obvious.
Well, aside from the usual quarreling. Never ends, that.
"You'd probably be doing me a favor."Death as a favour? Okay! :D
Scrolls, that when read randomly produce one of the listed effects before crumbling to dust and reforming somewhere else.
(Two are blank for now, and will be added to later.)
The Lunagee reports that Malkath is bothering it and ogling samples.Malakath, stop ogling my creations!
"Wait what? What am I doing?"QuoteThe Lunagee reports that Malkath is bothering it and ogling samples.Malakath, stop ogling my creations!
Malakath, stop ogling my creations!
And welcome new god! I'm Atropos, goddess of death and dust! ;D
"Wait what? What am I doing?"
"When was I ogling anyone's creations?"
"When was I ogling anyone's creations?"Last tick. I guess you are into dust people? :P
"I don't remember ogling anything on Tick 79. I don't remember ogling anything on any Tick.""When was I ogling anyone's creations?"
"Somewhere around tick 79, I believe."
Last tick. I guess you are into dust people? :P"What dust people?" (Link so I can put it in the bestiary.)
"I don't remember ogling anything on Tick 79. I don't remember ogling anything on any Tick."
"I'm not lying. I genuinely have no idea what you two are on about. I think I'll stop responding to these accusations unless you give me something new to argue with than your word."
"I'm not lying. I genuinely have no idea what you two are on about. I think I'll stop responding to these accusations unless you give me something new to argue with than your word."I got a message from the Lunagee telling me you were bothering and ogling him. Have you been messing with any dust recently?
"Perhaps you should put more than merely 250, After all the Kobolds of all things would outnumber them 100-1, I think that 10,000 or so would be a good number, But what do I know."
I got a message from the Lunagee telling me you were bothering and ogling him. Have you been messing with any dust recently?"It was you who broke the anti-Void dust ring!? I was studying the ring to see why the Ikan considered it "broken". Why would you destroy an 8 Essence creation made specifically to counter the Void simply to create a sapient race? It cost 8 Essence to create that dust ring and you broke it just to get a worshipper base. I hope you're planning to make a replacement anti-Void dust ring."
((I got a PM about it, and posted it earlier... The Lunagee is the Keshan dust cloud brought to life as a hivemind of dust people.))
"I hope I am not intruding on anyone so I will make sure my created race of worshipers stay their place. They will be docile and serving. They will be short and stout as not to be threatening but not weak either. They will live normal lives, ones not too short nor too long. They will be bright little fellows that know what they do and choose to do it. They will not stand for greed nor evil. They will harvest their crop, reap what they sow, and help those who need it. There will be 250 of these fine people placed on each planet. They will hear the name 'Sewa'- the farmers.""Could you give a more detailed description of these beings? Are they humanoid? Wolf-based? Dragon-based? I'll need to know so I can write up a description for them in the Bestiary."
I will propagate when need be, I have already spend enough essence this (tick?) and I would not like to squander any more of it. Also do my creations instantly know of me and choose to worship or not?"Yes, Tick. Your creations will know of you and will worship you unless you specifically create them so they don't."
I will propagate when need be, I have already spend enough essence this (tick?) and I would not like to squander any more of it. Also do my creations instantly know of me and choose to worship or not?
"It was you who broke the anti-Void dust ring!? I was studying the ring to see why the Ikan considered it "broken". Why would you destroy an 8 Essence creation made specifically to counter the Void simply to create a sapient race? It cost 8 Essence to create that dust ring and you broke it just to get a worshipper base. I hope you're planning to make a replacement anti-Void dust ring."
They are humanoid, they are like hobbits, short, normal life span, they can think, they have a tough hide, they have thick hair, they can be smart, they are good natured, they are very docile, they take joy in helping/serving others, they are excelent farmers
"It was you who broke the anti-Void dust ring!? I was studying the ring to see why the Ikan considered it "broken". Why would you destroy an 8 Essence creation made specifically to counter the Void simply to create a sapient race? It cost 8 Essence to create that dust ring and you broke it just to get a worshipper base. I hope you're planning to make a replacement anti-Void dust ring."Last I checked, he still absorbed void radiation.
FAKEDIT: "Was it this "Lunagee" who killed my Space Spirits?"
Last I checked, he still absorbed void radiation.
And why would the Lunagee kill "Space Spirits? What even are space spirits?
((Short and stout humans. Basicaly.))
If everyone thinks it a good idea then I shall spend some essence to propagate their numbers to 5,000 on each planet
They are humanoid, they are like hobbits, short, normal life span, they can think, they have a tough hide, they have thick hair, they can be smart, they are good natured, they are very docile, they take joy in helping/serving others, they are excelent farmers"Hobbits? Interesting. My own blood-drinkers were based off of mythological creatures. Vampires, specifically. In any case, your contribution has been added to the Bestiary." (See here (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=144651.msg5779202#msg5779202))
Last I checked, he still absorbed void radiation."Good."
And why would the Lunagee kill "Space Spirits? What even are space spirits?
If everyone thinks it a good idea then I shall spend some essence to propagate their numbers to 5,000 on each planet"It's probably better to choose how much Essence you want to spend and propagating as much as you can with that amount. 3 Essence should be more than enough for what you want."
"Why is it that when anything exciting happens it's usually a bad thing?"That'll all change next Tick. You'll see."
"Why is it that when anything exciting happens it's usually a bad thing?
Azem shrugs.Well they are basicaly everyone's servants as long as they are treated nicely. They will be nice for the food supply and places with little labor force for farming
"As long as they contribute to the economy, I'm fine with them."
So how does everyone like the race of sub servant farmers?
"Trust me, it's not. I think you of all people will love it."
So how does everyone like the race of sub servant farmers?
"...They aren't particularly interesting in any notable way. No real interesting skill or abilities. I feel they will likely be ignored, unless you manage to do something particularly interesting with them.""Trust me, it's not. I think you of all people will love it."
"And Malakath continues to flirt with Azem. Anyone want to do play-by-play commentary?"
Being the greatest farmers ever isn't a particularly amazing skill?
((So do Ticks end whenever the GM rolls through and updates what needs be?))
"By the way, please leave the godlings alone Fusil."
(5 bullets says Yaos is coming back next turn...)I'll take that bet. I'll also bet 5 Essence that he's not coming back next turn.
(Once a day, usually whenever KJP can get to it. We used to have it on a twice-a-day schedule with a half ticks in the morning and full ticks at night, but it has been(Fixed.)a littlevery erraticlatelyfor over a month.)
I'll take that bet. I'll also bet 5 Essence that he's not coming back next turn.
QuoteI'll take that bet. I'll also bet 5 Essence that he's not coming back next turn.
(You do realize that even if you are right I will end up shooting you? Five times, at that.)
I believe I have gained a basic understanding of some of the less obvious tendencies of mortals, random chance(not you, Fortuna, unfortunately(godsdamnit that was not on purpose)), and the way the universe seems to work. By no means do I believe I will always or really expect to ever be accurate in this, however.
I can say, however, that I fear for your creations, Cyrix, as they seem likely to become enslaved, possibly to the Flagellants, quite easily. I think I will try to do what I can to protect them, if you will allow me to.
Really? Tell me, Fusil, how many systems of magic you've made again? And how you would be in any position to understand what I am or am not aware of? Or, indeed, how you are in any way more qualified to give advice than I, considering you've died at least once, suggesting you are rather bad at making decisions.
And if you don't think slavery has existed within the last 80+ ticks...
The bad decisions lie in you making enemies with enough Gods that they were able and willing to do so.
You are capable of seeing what I publicly do. Why would I lay out the mechanics of the system of magic I created? The only reason I even declared it was because the amount of power being used by certain mages would be rather obvious to anyone who cared to look. I've never claimed to know all about anything. You seem to invent things as they suit you, rather than actually seeing the facts as they are.
I agree. They are likely quite incapable of enslaving a race watched by a God. Thus why I offered my protection, in case Cyrix's attention is elsewhere; say, because you've blown something up again.
"The god of Hunt isn't as active as this new god, doesn't ask as many questions, and isn't as useful, no offence. If I remember correctly, there weren't very many gods who were jumping at the chance to help me either."
"I've hanged myself from this tree for over a week now and I see ghosts everywhere. Do you have any advice?""Those ghosts are probably just hallicunations, but you might have the gift of magic bestowed upon you, follower. I wish to examine you further. You can keep hanging in the tree if that is what you desire, but you are also welcome to come to one of my shrines."
"Could you see my floor spiked plate? My mentor says it's as painless as a bed of nails.""Replacing the spikes with actual barbs would work better. If someone sets foot on the barbs, they can't get loose, causing them to fall over on more barbs."
"Pop! Look at my eyeball! Pop!""You are a worthy servant."
(210 000 added to a 300 000 is a rather implausible result of a free action. The effectiveness of actions is correlated quite strongly with effort, and butterfly effect actions are rated as close to zero effort. Lucky rolls do happen, but they're lucky rolls because they don't happen most of the time. Do not make such assumptions in the future.)(In the future, is it ok if I combine the butterfly effect with actually spending Essence to cause such actions to happen?)
There is much uproar among the gambling halls following the announcement of the curse on non-Commission halls. Some do join, but there are also reports of shrines to Fortuna being destroyed."You're the fourth person to be blasphemed against, I think. The first was Yaos, the second was Fusil, the third was myself, and now you're the fourth. I wonder if there's a pattern..."
Malakath and Fusil:I have already left and will continue to not respond. Competing for the attention of a mortal this much is below me.
SHINJO: "Actually, I may change my mind if you both tell me who your most potent rival is."
"They don't employ subterfuge and secrecy? Tell us more we didn't already know.""Actually, I only said they don't employ subterfuge. They employ secrecy in terms of their magical techniques. However..." The room is swiftly covered in shadows with a harsh red tint, "I am tired of being treated by you as if I were some trifling beggar!" Suddenly, many arms manifest from the shadows and drag the Burning Days down to their knees, too quickly to do anything physical and Malakath's will stopping them from doing anything magical, "I am a GODDESS and you will treat me as such! Do we understand?"
The strange little man is thinking about the beautiful gushing of arterial blood, but the reasons elude simple examination.The little man is taken to the same asylum Lyle the Archlawyer was taken to. It's not my problem.
The shadowy figures' minds seem to be warded against even divine interference. They seem not to be Void cultists.Eh, so long as they're not cultists. They're released and the angel priests are recalled to Zeranzel.
"Release us soon untouched or our superiors will begin executing contingencies."
A mischievous sculptor has chiseled in "Malakath and Cyrix, sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G" on a cliff face and been found dead three days later."One of you actually hired someone to do this? I must admit it's rather humorous. Still, I had nothing to do with his death. If anyone wants to investigate it I suggest you do it before it reincarnates."
Malakath has hit on Azem again. Fusil seems to be jealous.Magnificent.
Kit and Tykki have fought in the DBP! Kit is somehow able to dodge most of Tykki's attacks and seems to grow more agile as the fight progresses. In the end, however, Kit cannot endure Tykki's continuous onslaught and is defeated. Kit has returned to Atropos' shoulder and Tykki has returned to Fusil.Information about this fight is released to the mortals. The great Tykki actually found it challenging to beat a common cat.
"Those ghosts are probably just hallicunations, but you might have the gift of magic bestowed upon you, follower. I wish to examine you further. You can keep hanging in the tree if that is what you desire, but you are also welcome to come to one of my shrines.""It's more likely that she hanged herself to death and can now see ghosts because she is also a ghost. Everyone has magic now, remember?"
Melyssa examines the (wo)man, to see if (s)he has any magical powers.
"While this might be true, I still wish to investigate her. As far as I know, ghosts are unable to pray, but I might be wrong.""Those ghosts are probably just hallicunations, but you might have the gift of magic bestowed upon you, follower. I wish to examine you further. You can keep hanging in the tree if that is what you desire, but you are also welcome to come to one of my shrines.""It's more likely that she hanged herself to death and can now see ghosts because she is also a ghost. Everyone has magic now, remember?"
Melyssa examines the (wo)man, to see if (s)he has any magical powers.
SHINJO: "Actually, I may change my mind if you both tell me who your most potent rival is."
You don't know what books on the Void Fusil read. It is a most unpleasant situation, not to know what romance novels your stalkee reads.
The cities have been doing very well, exporting many magical products. While none are quite as extravagant as the largest Mountwyrm capital, the cities are considered excellent destinations by tourists all the same. The main problem at the moment is slowly growing tension between two sides on a developing schism.
Malakath has hit on Azem again. Fusil seems to be jealous. Malakath has given 1E to Azem and overflowed.
Tykki: "It is done, Sir."
Azem has been punished by being put in a funny hat. Astute readers of this tabloid thing may note the similarity to Malakath's offers to play the role the funny hat currently plays and Malakath's at least initial opposition to the idea.
Magnificent.
May I file for a restraining order?Yes. Do it.
"That may work then. I'll just have to stay out of the touchier ones' lands."
"Luck is flowing like spirits at a feast, O Mutable One!"
There is much uproar among the gambling halls following the announcement of the curse on non-Commission halls. Some do join, but there are also reports of shrines to Fortuna being destroyed.
Tycho: "That's what your less lucky priests would do. I get to do the fun stuff because I have all the luck!"
Tycho has activated his Rod. Colorful ribbons burst from the ground like geysers, attracting a great many random people.
A mischievous sculptor has chiseled in "Malakath and Cyrix, sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G" on a cliff face and been found dead three days later.
New players are always welcome. Sphere ideas this tick are Children, Day, Animals, and Fire. Opposing sphere ideas this tick are Honesty and Misfortune.
Offer the remainder of the blaspheming gambling hall owners to Melyssa and the Flagellants."I am truly grateful. I shall ensure that they regret their mistakes."
I hope your people enjoy my gift, Melyssa
Pick one of the detractors with the largest gambling hall, and float them up to the ceiling so that everyone can see him, while I stand below. Gesticulating mildly, which pinches off their extremities ((DF style!!)) one by one, starting with fingers and toes, then hands/feet and so on, until left with a torso and a head, while I use my godly powers to keep them alive.
I'm wondering what you hoped to gain in destroying my shrines, mortal. I would say I'm a very accommodating god, indeed I gave you the choice to join the commission or not, instead of just blasting you into gibs for assuming that I would allow you to give your patrons a less than fair chance of walking away with more than they came with. I am the god of Luck, you do not get to decide how luck is portioned out!
I was happy to allow your continued existence, admittedly with a great deal less luck, but you decided the best course of action would be to act against me. I cannot let this go unpunished, lest other mortals decide they can act against me and my celestial brethren without worrying about the consequences. You are a fool, and will serve as an example to other fools, mortal.
Set my hand in a fist, crushing the mortal's head above me.
Offer the remainder of the blaspheming gambling hall owners to Melyssa and the Flagellants.
I hope your people enjoy my gift, Melyssa
The mortals destroyed my shrines, Fusil. I don't care if there is something insidious behind it, the mortals cannot be allowed to dampen my, or any of your, influence because they disagree with our decisions.
Melyssa, seeing as you are already torturing them, perhaps you can garner some information about which entity was behind their decision to erode my worship?
If anything, it at least lets the mortals know I don't like destruction of my shrines. Harsh, perhaps, but effective.
Also, not random. I at least chose people who were acting against me in some way, in this instance refusing to join my Commission. I have no qualms over this.
"No matter who or what ordered them to destroy the shrines, they have made a mistake listening to them. Torture is the only way to cleanse their souls. Their luck has run out. But even though their crimes against Fortuna can not be forgiven, I still wish to know who asked them to do it.''
Ask the infidels who or what ordered them to destroy shrines. Offer them aswift and mercifulslightly less painful death if they say who did it.
I would like to make the point that gambling halls are businesses which rely on stacking luck in favour of a particular party, usually the owner. As the god of Luck, why should I allow mortals to influence luck, one way or the other? Thus, the Commission.
Thank you, Melyssa, for your aid in this matter.
"How can you be so sure? You seem to know more about this than you should....""No matter who or what ordered them to destroy the shrines, they have made a mistake listening to them. Torture is the only way to cleanse their souls. Their luck has run out. But even though their crimes against Fortuna can not be forgiven, I still wish to know who asked them to do it.''
Ask the infidels who or what ordered them to destroy shrines. Offer them aswift and mercifulslightly less painful death if they say who did it.
".......But they had nothing to do with the attacks! Absolutely nothing...."
".......But they had nothing to do with the attacks! Absolutely nothing...."\
"They work on stacking the odds in favor of one party, not the luck. It is literally the only way they can run. They wouldn't make any money if they lost it half the time. Since you seem to be obsessed with Gambling halls, having them all destroyed in such a way seems strange."
"How can you be so sure? You seem to know more about this than you should...."
You chastise me for making assumptions, yet here you are, doing the same.
That is, of course, unless you know something you're not sharing.
Further assumptions that those on the Commission aren't just having the odds replaced with Luck...
"Even if these people did not destroy the shrines, just standing by and watching shrines being destroyed makes them just as guilty."Quote"How can you be so sure? You seem to know more about this than you should...."
"He literally burst into the door of a random gambling hall and started torturing the people in charge of it. Why in the worlds would this just happen to find a guilty party? And if you are implying that I destroyed them, I could level every one of his temples in the span of a tick. Yours, too. I would hardly use such an ineffective method."QuoteYou chastise me for making assumptions, yet here you are, doing the same.
That is, of course, unless you know something you're not sharing.
"You would literally be more likely to find the true culprits from drawing a name out of a hat! There is zero evidence leading to believe that these people did anything. Assuming they are innocent is the logical choice."QuoteFurther assumptions that those on the Commission aren't just having the odds replaced with Luck...
"Is that really relevant?"
"I have been blasphemed against as well, on multiple occasions. Do note that in your pattern-seeking."
"You're the fourth person to be blasphemed against, I think. The first was Yaos, the second was Fusil, the third was myself, and now you're the fourth. I wonder if there's a pattern..."
Well perhaps I was a little... excessive. Doesn't mean I was wrong.
It may be more likely that the person was innocent, but just because something is likely, doesn't mean it actually is.
"Even if these people did not destroy the shrines, just standing by and watching shrines being destroyed makes them just as guilty."
((Can gods walk around the world and do things?))
"If you truly wish to prove the innocence of these humans, go ask the oracle. Until it's proven, I will consider them guilty and continue the torture."Well perhaps I was a little... excessive. Doesn't mean I was wrong."Which is why you at least make a token effort to investigate before going straight into the limb pulling!"
It may be more likely that the person was innocent, but just because something is likely, doesn't mean it actually is.Quote"Even if these people did not destroy the shrines, just standing by and watching shrines being destroyed makes them just as guilty."
"There is nothing suggesting that, either. He might not even be on the right planet! He literally put that little effort into his investigations."
"If you truly wish to prove the innocence of these humans, go ask the oracle. Until it's proven, I will consider them guilty and continue the torture."
It is being investigated now. I can't fix what I've already done, nor do I particularly want to. I gifted some souls to Melyssa, they may know something, they may not.
You've shown little interest in the mortals that worship other gods before, Fusil, why the change of heart now?
((I at least appreciate the advice, OOC. KJP didn't specifically say that it was a mortal what done it. Whoops. Assumptions are dangerous things, apparently.))
(Usually I bold my actions to make it easier for the GM to see.)((Like dat?
I am sorry, I said that without thinking. I used to be a human myself, so I say human quite easily.Quote"If you truly wish to prove the innocence of these humans, go ask the oracle. Until it's proven, I will consider them guilty and continue the torture."
"Are they even humans? Humans are one of the smallest races. You don't even know what species you are torturing! You don't have any idea what you are doing."
God of TortureGod? I'm not even wearing any clothes and you still can't tell that I am a woman? How pathetic.
God? I'm not even wearing any clothes and you still can't tell that I am a woman? How pathetic.
What do you want me to do then, Fusil? I told you I've started an investigation, and Melyssa is going to find out if any of the people - which were chosen because they are blasphemers, not randomly as you seem to think - know anything about the attacks on my shrines.
I have no need to justify my actions to you, just as any other god has no need to justify their own actions to the rest of the Council. Get off your high horse and help with my investigation if you feel so strongly about it.
Oh, look, someone's trying to make me angry again.
Normally I might be upset by the idea that Fusil may have destroyed some shrines dedicated to Fortuna.
Then Fortuna decided to take the Melyssan route.
Ah, goodie! Guilty until proven innocent means of 'justice', to boot!
I know you don't care whether I'm happy or not, Fortuna. I know Melyssa probably wants me to be in pain, because she's a God of Torture.
But allow me to say it anyway.
I am not pleased.
((Holy shit 16 replies while my internet faffed about))
Once my investigation has run its course, I will make amends, if necessary.
Oh, look, someone's trying to make me angry again."Even though I can not deny that I wish you to be in pain, I hold no specific grudge against you, Darruth. I can understand why a god of goodness and protection might dislike my ideals, while I do not dislike yours. Torture is beautiful, and it must be shared with everyone. It is a shame that many do not understand this."
Normally I might be upset by the idea that Fusil may have destroyed some shrines dedicated to Fortuna.
Then Fortuna decided to take the Melyssan route.
Ah, goodie! Guilty until proven innocent means of 'justice', to boot!
I know you don't care whether I'm happy or not, Fortuna. I know Melyssa probably wants me to be in pain, because she's a God of Torture.
But allow me to say it anyway.
I am not pleased.
((Holy shit 16 replies while my internet faffed about))
I'm not particularly pleased either, sunshine."I will make sure that the suspects stay alive and are still able to speak while your investigation is still going on, and I will make sure they confess if they are guilty."
Someone is destroying my shrines. It's not something I want people to be doing, to any of the gods.
I freely admit I made a mistake in passing judgment before an investigation, a result of my fury over being attacked. I made an assumption which, as yet, has not been proved erroneous.
Once my investigation has run its course, I will make amends, if necessary.
Put your inner-detective to work then and help me find out what's happening.
I appreciate your efforts, Melyssa.
Because then I won't have to listen to your complaints anymore.
"You seem to be contradicting yourself, Fusil. First you want to prove the innocence of some people, but now you refuse to help with the research. You confuse me."Put your inner-detective to work then and help me find out what's happening.
I appreciate your efforts, Melyssa.
"Why in the world would I do that?"
"You'll have to go through me first."Because then I won't have to listen to your complaints anymore.
"I could kill you right now with almost no effort."
Because then I won't have to listen to your complaints anymore.
"I could kill you right now with almost no effort."
Because then I won't have to listen to your complaints anymore.
"I could kill you right now with almost no effort."
You could. I could make you the unluckiest being in existence, at somewhat more effort on my part. Neither of us would gain from this though, so it would be pointless.
"You seem to be contradicting yourself, Fusil. First you want to prove the innocence of some people, but now you refuse to help with the research. You confuse me."
"You'll have to go through me first."
"But then I wouldn't have to listen to your complaints anymore. Your curses would mean nothing when you are a corpse."
"But then I wouldn't have to listen to your complaints anymore. Your curses would mean nothing when you are a corpse."
True, but you were chastising me for being arbitrary. You threaten to kill me for merely hurting your feelings. Six and a half-dozen, hm?
"That would be where the 'Almost' comes from. You two combined aren't even close to being an obstacle to me.""Attack Fortuna and I will personally destroy you."
"But then I wouldn't have to listen to your complaints anymore. Your curses would mean nothing when you are a corpse."
True, but you were chastising me for being arbitrary. You threaten to kill me for merely hurting your feelings. Six and a half-dozen, hm?
"I assure you your death will be swift and painless and I will make your corpse into something useful. If you get in my way, I will kill you. That is how it has always been."
"You can count on My help, Neron.""That would be where the 'Almost' comes from. You two combined aren't even close to being an obstacle to me.""Attack Fortuna and I will personally destroy you."
I appreciate your support."You can count on My help, Neron.""That would be where the 'Almost' comes from. You two combined aren't even close to being an obstacle to me.""Attack Fortuna and I will personally destroy you."
"Attack Fortuna and I will personally destroy you."
I understand this Fusil, but I'm not getting in your way.
I insulted you - because you made complaints about me and when I asked for your help, you refused - but that's hardly an impediment to your progress, is it?
The cities have been doing very well, exporting many magical products. While none are quite as extravagant as the largest Mountwyrm capital, the cities are considered excellent destinations by tourists all the same. The main problem at the moment is slowly growing tension between two sides on a developing schism.
(In the future, is it ok if I combine the butterfly effect with actually spending Essence to cause such actions to happen?)(Yes, this is the intended method if you want a high chance of success for more than minor consequences. A suggested format of indicating this includes stating the cap on how much you want to pay so as not to overspend while still getting the desired results at a hopefully significantly discounted price.)
Joha: You have propagated the Wood Elves, Ikan, Lycae, and Wargs (?) to add a total of eleven billion of them.
"It looks like they were guilty after all. It surprises my that no one mentioned a god. I am assuming that Fusil helped them escape, for he was the one with the most objections, but I shall not come to a conclusion too hastily."
Joha: You have propagated the Wood Elves, Ikan, Lycae, and Wargs (?) to add a total of eleven billion of them.(Wood Elves, Ikan, Lycae, and Bienen)
(Wood Elves, Ikan, Lycae, and Bienen)(What's a Bienen? Link so I can put it in the Bestiary?)
((The Sewa are in their own 'village' that is near that city, I suppose they could be very nice trade partners but they do live in their own city))(The way I see it, the city buys all the Sewa's produce and then sells it on, plus it can apply knowledge gained from your temples and the Sewa themselves to improve their own agricultural endeavours. Considering that our gods are strongly allied it's not unlikely that our cities are as well.)
You realize what you've started? Now a bunch of others are going to feel obligated to propagate their followers too...
Thank you. If you need anything else just ask, sorry I'm not too generous with the Essence. I don't want to drop too low, I think I'm already at 9 or 10
Also guys over population is a bad thing, for the love of all that is good don't propagate too much please[/color]
"I didn't know the new god liked Darruth that much."
Azem grins at Fusil.
"I thought I'd beat you to it."
Just as predicted... it has begun.Also guys over population is a bad thing, for the love of all that is good don't propagate too much please[/color]
Not for all of us.
Whoever wants to donate essence, I can propagate my race and send the numbers to your creation's cities to assist with farming, they would provide a stable food supply. Also guys over population is a bad thing, for the love of all that is good don't propagate too much please
"I didn't know the new god liked Darruth that much."
Azem grins at Fusil.
"I thought I'd beat you to it."
Can we teleport them to said planets? And still if anybody wants to wire me the essence for farmer servants I'm open to it
Azem covers his face with his wings.
"The new god just said 'for the love of all that is good' and I expected you to make a quip about it."
Create as many Mountwyrms and Dwarves as possible with 4 essence.
"I'm certainly not going to fall behind."
"I didn't know the new god liked Darruth that much."*orbpalm*
Azem grins at Fusil.
"I thought I'd beat you to it."
"They where dropping three essence, we are not exactly looking at another few billion."
I see, I meant no agrivation, was simply offering some of my creations as servants for a small payment considering their simplisticnessCan we teleport them to said planets? And still if anybody wants to wire me the essence for farmer servants I'm open to it
"First, I should probably tell you that asking for essence like Malakath does is a good way to make people want to shoot you. I don't suggest doing it. Yes, we can teleport them there, or make a temporary measure where the souls reincarnate in the new planets instead of their former destination. We are Gods, we can do anything we want."Azem covers his face with his wings.
"The new god just said 'for the love of all that is good' and I expected you to make a quip about it."
"I always thought Durrath was evil."
Naturally. Not all of us can afford to blow through that much essence. I was simply joking around about how the trend of propagation picked up quickly.
I see, I meant no agrivation, was simply offering some of my creations as servants for a small payment considering their simplisticness
Can we teleport them to said planets?"That's a bad idea. Neither the moons nor the new planet are fit for life unless the life-forms are custom-built for that planet or unless they're very adaptable. Reincarnation is a useful idea, as the Weapons goddess said, but it will take a long time for the new beings to die."
Everything keeps getting put off because of new development this, new development that...rather annoying, actually. >.>(Ghost Yaos: "I hear that.")
"That's a bad idea. Neither the moons nor the new planet are fit for life unless it was custom-built for that planet or the life-forms are very adaptable. Reincarnation is a useful idea, as the Weapons goddess said, but it will take a long time for the new beings to die."
(Ghost Yaos: "I hear that.")
"We where just talking about making new habitable planets. If you are going to join the conversation, at least pay attention. See, a really bad role model.""All you did was suggest that they not be moved to the pre-existing worlds. You didn't explain why."
"And why is that? We have two planets and can make more just as perfect fairly easily. In fact, we still have several moons that could be cultivated, and an entirely new ice planet that has been ignored.
Also, seeing how active you are, it is likely that you will soon be contacted by a Void Null. Just ignore it until it goes away, don't accept any deals it offers you no matter what they are."
"And why is that? We have two planets and can make more just as perfect fairly easily. In fact, we still have several moons that could be cultivated, and an entirely new ice planet that has been ignored."I was giving explanation for why this wouldn't work."
Also, seeing how active you are, it is likely that you will soon be contacted by a Void Null. Just ignore it until it goes away, don't accept any deals it offers you no matter what they are."
"I was giving explanation for why this wouldn't work."
"...No you didn't. The new planets would be just as habitable to the currently existing races. They could even be exact clones. There is no reason to assume otherwise."*facepalm* "I'm not talking about the hypothetical new planets, I'm talking about the new planet that Neron and KI'Tork made. You know, the one that's perpetually frozen and covered in ice?"
"Aside from that, the Armu live on the moons just fine, including the planet's moons. The Gruen can, too, though they can not travel by themselves. It is a somewhat expensive modification, but all race could be modified with some effort to fit even the harshest environment. We could also just make the environment less harsh, as a council action it would be simple.""Exactly. You can't just teleport the races to the moons and expect them to survive - which is what I'm arguing. Either the environments need to be changed or the races need to be adapted. The Armu were custom-modified to adapt to the moons and the Gruen have natural in-built adaptability. Could you perhaps take the time to read my arguments instead of just skimming over?"
"...No you didn't. The new planets would be just as habitable to the currently existing races. They could even be exact clones. There is no reason to assume otherwise."*facepalm* "I'm not talking about the hypothetical new planets, I'm talking about the new planet that Neron and KI'Tork made. You know, the one that's perpetually frozen and covered in ice?""Aside from that, the Armu live on the moons just fine, including the planet's moons. The Gruen can, too, though they can not travel by themselves. It is a somewhat expensive modification, but all race could be modified with some effort to fit even the harshest environment. We could also just make the environment less harsh, as a council action it would be simple.""Exactly. You can't just teleport the races to the moons and expect them to live - which is what I'm arguing. Either the environments need to be changed or the races need to be adapted. The Armu were custom-modified to adapt to the moons and the Gruen have natural in-built adaptability. Could you perhaps take the time to read my arguments instead of just skimming over?"
"I tire of your selective hearing Arms-Bearer. Both of you stop hurting my ears. Right. Now."
"The punishment for insulting the king in a nearby kingdom is death."
"It is flowing into my lucky fingers! I can now win any game!"
The Rod fizzles in a display of unluckiness.
Tycho: "The Rod doesn't work without my consent! Nice, isn't it? It's also an effective way to attract followers, which I am definitely not doing with another motive in mind."
The sculptor's soul's current body says: "ma ma. ma ma ma mam mama. *bvbvbvbvbv* ma ma."
"I heard something about killing sea-birds being unlu--good. Is this true? How do the sailors survive without food?"
"Would you play a little coin game with me for a minor boon? Heads I win, tails you lose."
I can help vegetate them. God of harvest 'aught know how to make plantsYou should make your farmers able to create new plants with magic!
You should make your farmers able to create new plants with magic!
So how do we do the voting on proposals and all that jazz?
Then perhaps we should prevent that sort of thing from happening. So, I propose that, if any two council rulings contradict each other, the most recently-passed one takes precedence.
I never voted in the first place, and besides, I'm really unsure how the council would enforce such an edict.
Particularly when it interferes with previously established Council rules.
I actually wonder if such a paradox in a system with as much (potential...) power as the Council wouldn't Paradox us as well. Hopefully that would be avoided, but...
I never voted in the first place, and besides, I'm really unsure how the council would enforce such an edict.
Particularly when it interferes with previously established Council rules.
I actually wonder if such a paradox in a system with as much (potential...) power as the Council wouldn't Paradox us as well. Hopefully that would be avoided, but...
"No, you did vote. That stupid law you helped past means that everyone votes, if you don't support or oppose then you abstain. Which is why they are all almost passing now."
((When does this tick end?))
I never voted in the first place, and besides, I'm really unsure how the council would enforce such an edict.
Particularly when it interferes with previously established Council rules.
I actually wonder if such a paradox in a system with as much (potential...) power as the Council wouldn't Paradox us as well. Hopefully that would be avoided, but...
"No, you did vote. That stupid law you helped past means that everyone votes, if you don't support or oppose then you abstain. Which is why they are all almost passing now."
((what's the difference between failure and death? ???))
Indeed? I must have gravely misunderstood the meaning of the word 'all', then. Or perhaps 'almost' is simply a far larger margin by your definition. After all, as of now, out of the nine proposals I can see, one has already failed, two are about to, and the rest are going to die.
Whether the Council is abstaining as a group or not, they would all be only a few votes away from passing anyway, because so few gods vote on them, and because there aren't that many here to begin with.
Darruth chuckles. For once. Really? That's news to me. See, when 80.05.2 passed, that ceased to be true. Which was why I proposed it. And why you opposed it. Considering the fact that you opposed it, and it passed anyway, I'm rather surprised you forgot about it so easily.Whether the Council is abstaining as a group or not, they would all be only a few votes away from passing anyway, because so few gods vote on them, and because there aren't that many here to begin with.
"No. You don't understand how voting works, do you? This just goes further to show that you simply have no clue how this world works, despite your claims. Essentially, proposals need a certain number of people to vote on them to pass or fail. So before 75.01, most proposals did not get enough votes to even get a leg on it. Now that 75.01 passed, you only technically need one person to vote on any given proposal for it to pass, because it will automatically be 100% of the people voting supporting it. So yes, especially compared to before, all the proposals where dangerously close to passing."
Tick 82: Conciliary FixationSpoiler: Council proposals (7) (click to show/hide)
"No. You don't understand how voting works, do you? This just goes further to show that you simply have no clue how this world works, despite your claims. Essentially, proposals need a certain number of people to vote on them to pass or fail. So before 75.01, most proposals did not get enough votes to even get a leg on it. Now that 75.01 passed, you only technically need one person to vote on any given proposal for it to pass, because it will automatically be 100% of the people voting supporting it. So yes, especially compared to before, all the proposals where dangerously close to passing."
"Actually, all proposals need at least two gods to support it before it can pass and neither of these two people can be the ones who proposed the proposal in the first place. Joha proposed that this rule be brought into place and it was passed."
Darruth chuckles. For once. Really? That's news to me. See, when 80.05.2 passed, that ceased to be true. Which was why I proposed it. And why you opposed it. Considering the fact that you opposed it, and it passed anyway, I'm rather surprised you forgot about it so easily.
So what was that about who didn't understand how voting works?
Oh right. You don't. And I have proof, because:
Feels good to be Right.
Quote"Actually, all proposals need at least two gods to support it before it can pass and neither of these two people can be the ones who proposed the proposal in the first place. Joha proposed that this rule be brought into place and it was passed."
"No, the current law says it only needs two people backing it up. This could be done in secret, it only needs one vote to pass. The support doesn't necessarily have to come in the form of open votes. Seconding=/supporting openly."
Proposals require seconding by two other gods to pass...which makes for a minimum of three gods supporting a proposal for it to be able to pass.
...which makes for a minimum of three gods supporting a proposal for it to be able to pass.
If it bothers you so much, why don't you propose a change to it?
And you have what evidence of this? That sounds a lot like assuming, to me, considering you don't have proof it works that way. And indeed, the logical answer is that the Council cannot register things done privately. Only publicly, or when something that was private becomes public. Such is the nature of the Council.
"Alright, fine. I propose we remove 75.01."Oppose
I propose that we create an Essence bank that gods can draw from when they are near their deaths. It would be optional to donate into it and any withdrawals from it must be approved by the council if the withdrawal is more than 5 essence or more than what that god has placed in the bank."I support this proposal but I'm also going to propose that anyone who is or has attempted to kill or injure another god be exempted from taking from the bank without Council permission."
I propose that we create an Essence bank that gods can draw from when they are near their deaths. It would be optional to donate into it and any withdrawals from it must be approved by the council if the withdrawal is more than 5 essence or more than what that god has placed in the bank.
Oppose Fusil's proposal. Either it will default back to whatever the old rule was - which was replaced for a reason - or there will just be no restriction in that sense, which was the entire reason you were arguing that that rule has problems. I don't see how that makes sense.
Wait a minute, which proposal was 75.01? Is it actually a significant proposal, or just some random number that someone threw out?
"I support this proposal but I'm also going to propose that anyone who is or has attempted to kill or injure another god be exempted from taking from the bank without Council permission."
You say that, but the question is both when and how? And that is a matter of prevention; not a matter of enabling. So perhaps I should be the one saying that to you?
"While we're on the subject, can someone more objective than me ever remember a single time in recent memory when Fusil used his vote for something useful?"
But it is only supposed to be drawn from when a god is dieing. And I say more than 5 can be drawn because a god might want to do things during a tick besides die. Also it's a council vote of they get to draw from it or not. The bank would also be good for if no one is willing to directly help a god not die but is ok with them drawing from a bank of Essence that everybody chipped into.
Azem scowls at his hat.
"This thing isn't useful at all. I propose we get rid of all existing funny hats."
(Wait you can bank your essence already?)
You like your hat that much, Fusil? Even with the fruit and the monkey?
Propose Azem's funny hat be changed to a snazzy hatOppose. "I'm not a fan of fedoras."
I'm waiting with baited breath for someone to paradox themselves.
"By the way Malakath, where is that pleasant surprise we where promised?""It's the Renaissance...."
(IC and OOC resolutions later)
I am creating the defenders of the Sewa, they will be large 1 meter tall owls. they will have silver,gray,and black feathers. I want there to be 1 guardian for every 5 Sewa, rounded up. They will reproduce at a rate that would keep them at this number equivalent to the Sewa.
((they can be equiped with metal claws and birds this size would be able (at the very least) to pick things up and drop them from heights))
If you enable them all to use magic proficiently, they should have little need to wield weapons manually. If such were even required, they would be able to wield them with magic.
You like making things up a lot. If you allowed guns in the world, I wouldn't be saying this; guns are rather excellent, and far more efficient, at least, than magic.If you enable them all to use magic proficiently, they should have little need to wield weapons manually. If such were even required, they would be able to wield them with magic.
"You are underestimating the abilities of weapons again, as well as overestimating magic. As non-sapients, I would not recommend this, as it would likely do harm to their souls. If you wish to stick with this design I would suggest giving it an alternative ability."
You like making things up a lot. If you allowed guns in the world, I wouldn't be saying this; guns are rather excellent, and far more efficient, at least, than magic.
But a bloody bow and arrow doesn't compare to fire balls. Or seventy arrows per second launched by a single mage. Or a magic bow. Or really anything else we can do, considering it's so mundane.
And I want you take a moment and think about what you just said. Overestimate magic. What else would you call what we do with Essence? Overestimating magic is rather like overestimating a sun; if you've done it, chances are nothing else you do will matter be able to work either.
And Cyrix, if you're concerned for their souls, I could help teach them to tap into the Ley Lines and keep the power stored.
That said, I suggested magic mostly because it sounds like you want them to remain Owls. In all honesty, magic in combination with weapons, tools and armor is the best way to go about doing it.
Ok final decision on what the guardians are, deal with it. They shall be the great owls as described before with same population numbers and all. They will each be assigned 5 Sewa to protect from birth, usually it will be a family that they will protect as the family grows maybe they are given as gifts to married couples etc. they will have powerful talons and they will be very strong, they will also have very light combat and healing magic, nothing too strong.
((Sorry for not posting in color))
<LOOP STABILITY?>(That's way more science than I can understand. Could you give a small summary about what it means?)
I propose to amend it to say "At least three gods must publicly support a proposal for it to be able to pass"Abstain. "Regardless of how 80.05.2.1 is worded, it's still a bad idea."
"I think I will prove a point.""This is hardly a fair challenge. Here we have a Legendary +5 champion versus a mere Expert champion."
I find a Legendary +5 Armu crossbowman, load him up with as many beltbows as he can comfortably use, and have him unload down range. Count the rounds per second.
I then find an Expert Mage of Darruth's and have him do the same thing. Compare the results.
...You know, I am not sure how many beltbows Darruth's mages can carry, so he will be able to use his magic instead.
"A thought flew into my head. Together, I, Fusil, and Joha make the holy trinity of combat-types: magical, physical and chi.""That's... What exactly makes these combat types a 'holy trinity'?"
((Basically, follow Rule 5 by keeping your time loops stable. If a future you comes to warn you of a disaster, you have to later go back in time to warn past yourself about it, even if you averted it.))Quote<LOOP STABILITY?>(That's way more science than I can understand. Could you give a small summary about what it means?)
"That's... What exactly makes these combat types a 'holy trinity'?""Hyperbole."
((Basically, follow Rule 5 by keeping your time loops stable. If a future you comes to warn you of a disaster, you have to later go back in time to warn past yourself about it, even if you averted it.))(Rule 5 of what?)
"Hyperbole."Cim sighs loudly. "That is not the answer I wanted. What do you even know of combat to separate it into types?"
I'm not certain Joha has or wants to have anything to do with chi, or if it even exists as something seperate from magic. Speaking of which, Malkath, I still fail to understand why you consider yourself so afiliated with magic."Allow me to second this."
(Rule 5 of what?)((The Council Starter Code of Conduct: "Thou shalt not break the Universe"))
Speaking of which, Malkath, I still fail to understand why you consider yourself so afiliated with magic.
"Currently, all magic is powered by the user's soul.""Considering that I'm actually getting Influence from general magic-use ((GM confirmed)), I have reason to believe Fusil's assessment to be true."
"What do you even know of combat to separate it into types?""It was just a light conversation piece. It wasn't meant to be taken seriously and certainly not worth arguing over. I should've known better than to do anything vaguely light-hearted when it comes to the Council."
Anyone who knows a good reason for NOT boiling the oceans can say them now."Probably because the result will be something like this:"
The sun appears to have dimmed severely from Keshan. A long, dark winter is upon it.
I send out my angel priests to do some scouting. They will put wards on themselves to protect against detection - optical(invisibility), magical, etc. - before going. Since a god is almost certainly behind this, they will be warded against divine sight as well.Posting secret actions on IC will totally backfire if anyone sees...
I send one angel priest to the Bellatorus Headquarters. There, it will remove its optical ward and add some very strong protection wards. Then, it will attempt parley with the Merfolk (while behind a shield and decked in armour, of course).
Five will try to locate military leaders of the Merfolk invasion.
The other fifteen will stay with me until I can figure out something better to do with them.
I ask the angel priest I had stationed in Merfolk lands why he didn't report that the Merfolk were preparing an invasion. It takes months or even years to prepare a full-scale mobilisation of such a large army. Did he leave before mobilisation began?
A Legendary +5 Armu crossbowman has fired off an estimated four hundred bolts in a minute. The Expert Mage of Darruth stacked the bolts neatly in five minutes. A Legendary +5 Darruthian battlemage specializing in rapid bolt-firing could not be found. Instead, a Legendary +5 mage who happens to like a game of stacking cups has come and stacked cups rapidly.
Numerous Wood Elf, Mountwyrm, Golem, Wolf person, Seraph-Cherub-Ophan, Night Elf, Human, and Luminee cities and Odolhirum have been struck by a sudden immense Merfolk invasion from marketplaces and graveyards. A large fraction of major Mountwyrm, Golem, Wolf person, Night Elf, Human, and Luminee cities are practically already conquered, and the remaining are suffering heavy losses and collateral damage. The Burning Days' castle has, in a twist of actual irony, been locked up, oiled, and torched with no survivors. The Sanatores' headquarters are currently under siege. Much priceless research data and prototypes from ISAY and the DSMS have been destroyed irretrievably.
Anyone who knows a good reason for NOT boiling the oceans can say them now.
Anyone who knows a good reason for NOT boiling the oceans can say them now."It would possible destroy the world and kill of all others races that live in the oceans."
Anyone who knows a good reason for NOT boiling the oceans can say them now.
The most likely answer to all three of these is divine involvement, and as such merfolk themselves are most likely mostly innocent. As such, I apologise for my previous outburst and offer to boil away oceans."No, the Merfolk were made to be fully sapient. In the end, they could've chosen simply not to comply with the demands of whatever god put them up to this. If they were being threatened they could've prayed to the Council or to one of their patron gods. They chose to do what they did by choice and must be punished, just not in the way you entailed. To be honest, I care more for the fact that that they attacked my city more than anything, I'm otherwise indifferent to the mortals' attempts to conquer one-another."
"Why can't merfolk be satisfied with their lot? I Propose that they suffer for all eternity!"Oppose "That would not only target civilian Merfolk and child Merfolk, but also Slythan Merfolk who've invaded nothing. If it's not worded that only their physical bodies will be in pain, then there's a chance they will continue to suffer even after reincarnation. Do you want to see baby Merfolk mass-die due to unbearable pain?"
"Cyrix, Do you wish to form a Pantheon? After all our spheres coincide."I thought we already did? If not I will move my 4E for the other into forming one with you
"Cyrix, Do you wish to form a Pantheon? After all our spheres coincide."I thought we already did? If not I will move my 4E for the other into forming one with you
"I don't see anything wrong with this, As long as the problem is solved.""Why can't merfolk be satisfied with their lot? I Propose that they suffer for all eternity!"Oppose "That would not only target civilian Merfolk and child Merfolk, but also Slythan Merfolk who've invaded nothing. If it's not worded that only their physical bodies will be in pain, then there's a chance they will continue to suffer even after reincarnation. Do you want to see baby Merfolk mass-die due to unbearable pain?"
"Pantheon-joining is free.""Cyrix, Do you wish to form a Pantheon? After all our spheres coincide."I thought we already did? If not I will move my 4E for the other into forming one with you
"Why can't merfolk be satisfied with their lot? I Propose that they suffer for all eternity!"
"Why can't merfolk be satisfied with their lot? I Propose that they suffer for all eternity!"
"Oppose. What it is with you lesser Gods doing horrible things to mortals lately?"
"KI`Tork, I`m asking you kindly to not harm the Merfolk until I have talked to them. In fact I would like all the gods to not harm them until I have talked to them, please."
"Calm down, I was just kidding! Jokes are very satisfying to me, On a serious note perhaps we should just adapt the Merfolk and move them to Nikjol? Then they won't be able to harm others."
((Paying to make it larger/ more grand))"Pantheon-joining is free.""Cyrix, Do you wish to form a Pantheon? After all our spheres coincide."I thought we already did? If not I will move my 4E for the other into forming one with you
If the Merfolk look like they're going to attack the Restoration Knights' castle, alert me first.
Quote"Calm down, I was just kidding! Jokes are very satisfying to me, On a serious note perhaps we should just adapt the Merfolk and move them to Nikjol? Then they won't be able to harm others."
"Thanks to Malakath's stupid law, we have had at least one 'just kidding' vote pass already. You have to be more careful..."
"Calm down, I was just kidding! Jokes are very satisfying to me, On a serious note perhaps we should just adapt the Merfolk and move them to Nikjol? Then they won't be able to harm others.""If the other gods agree, sure! We might need to make some changes to them though."
((Paying to make it larger/ more grand))(Are you talking about the Pantheon Court? The Pantheon Court has nothing to do with pantheons, ironically. It's just a place where every god has a temple there.)
"I already gave them basic cold resistance, but maybe we should completely change them so that they can never go to war again. I`m thinking about changing them into Eel Men without hands so that they can never hold weapons again and without the ability to go out of water."
(The other pantheon)(You can't "strengthen" a pantheon that way. Being in a pantheon with another god simply means you'll encourage your worshippers to also worship the other god and he'll do the same with his worshippers. You don't need Essence for that and you certainly don't need 4 Essence for that.)
"Wait a minute. Where did they get these weapons, Fusil, god of weapons, and why have they not attacked your any of your cities. Something seems fishy..."
((I thought it was a temple thing build with multiple gods. It worked last time I threw(The other pantheon)(You can't "strengthen" a pantheon that way. Being in a pantheon with another god simply means you'll encourage your worshippers to also worship the other god and he'll do the same with his worshippers. You don't need Essence for that and you certainly don't need 4 Essence for that.)
(Just ask KJP about it in the OCC thread before you throw 4 Essence at it.)((I thought it was a temple thing build with multiple gods. It worked last time I threw(The other pantheon)(You can't "strengthen" a pantheon that way. Being in a pantheon with another god simply means you'll encourage your worshippers to also worship the other god and he'll do the same with his worshippers. You don't need Essence for that and you certainly don't need 4 Essence for that.)moneyEssence at it))
"I`m still planning on turning them into Eel Men like it or not God of Weapons."
Use 5 essence to turn as many Merfolk warriors as I can into Eel Men.
Use up to 4E to surround dense marching Merfolk armies with a poisonous, purple gas. The poison is extremely lethal but causes no pain, just like falling asleep."I advise you against this course of action. This will kill all life that touches the gas - not just Merfolk armies. Not to mention that the gas would surely dissipate, poisoning and killing many things when it does. Then there's the fact that they have their own mages which can push away the gas using air magic or something. All-in-all it's a terrible idea."
"You make some good points. Amending."Use up to 4E to surround dense marching Merfolk armies with a poisonous, purple gas. The poison is extremely lethal but causes no pain, just like falling asleep."I advise you against this course of action. This will kill all life that touches the gas - not just Merfolk armies. Not to mention that the gas would surely dissipate, poisoning and killing many things when it does. Then there's the fact that they have their own mages which can push away the gas using air magic or something. All-in-all it's a terrible idea."
"Keep talking like that and I will nuke you and everything you ever loved into the Void. I do not take threats against my followers lightly, would you like Tykki to give you a sample of how cold steel beats cold ice?""Must be nice being an older god, able to bully and push around all other gods, God of Weapons."
Train the Eel men to control their tongue tentacle eels, allowing them to get over their impulse to devour weapons. If not enough to hold them in the Eel's mouth, enough to weaponize the eels to devour their enemies instead.
"It still falls on the problem of dissipation and the fact that mages can get rid of it. You also have to keep in mind that there are some civilian Merfolk residing as permanent citizens of non-Merfolk lands. I suggest making the gas be non-lethal and pain-causing with an enchantment against dissipation and manipulation by magic. Also, make it a coloured gas so they don't inadvertently wander into it and suddenly find themselves engulfed in pain/death because they don't know where to go or what to do to stop it.""If it's colored, the mages will notice it. You realize that they die the moment they breathe it in, right? I've also made it only Merfolk-targeting, so don't worry about manipulation. Also, it's meant to dissipate when the job is finished. That's why I'm using gas. They wouldn't find themselves engulfed in pain if it lingered either (which it won't), they'd just drop dead. I see no issues. Not to mention, I'm deploying it on sleeping camps of dense soldiers, so civilian casualties will be non-existent. Any other 'problems?"
"The biggest problem is its extreme lethality. Even in small doses it can kill or seriously incapacitate, so dissipation would be rather dangerous for civilians if even a tiny, tiny bit can kill them. Make it of a regular lethality (still lethal if you breathe a decent amount in, or something like that) and specify that the targets aren't near civilian centres. Some dense armies choose to camp inside cities, after all.""This is war. They slaughter my people, and you ask me to let more of them live when I could more easily end their offensives?
"Must be nice being an older god, able to bully and push around all other gods, God of Weapons."
Transform the Eel Men and the Eels into Sea Slugs, unable to do anything but moan, curse Fusil, and crawl about.
Quote"Must be nice being an older god, able to bully and push around all other gods, God of Weapons."
Transform the Eel Men and the Eels into Sea Slugs, unable to do anything but moan, curse Fusil, and crawl about.
"You may one day find out, if you extreme stupidity doesn't kill you first. Why did you do something so pointlessly cruel? To your own creation no less!"
Teleport the eel-seaslugs into the gas, as a mercy kill. Hopefully they are still recognized biologically as Mermen.
"I was planning on fixing them in secret after you got done with your little fit!"
Quickly teleport the Sea Slugs out of the gas and purge it from their bodies.
"You were helping them to kill others out of spite of me, God of Weapons!""I'm not sure what you're doing, Neron, but you may want to cool it."
Take all of the Sea Slugs and morph them together to create a kind of hive mind race were each mind controls a different part of the body. The body will resemble a massive brain with multiply tentacles to protect itself but not enough to move. They will have a childlike mind that fills only satisfaction and joy.
"You were helping them to kill others out of spite of me, God of Weapons!"
Take all of the Sea Slugs and morph them together to create a kind of hive mind race were each mind controls a different part of the body. The body will resemble a massive brain with multiply tentacles to protect itself but not enough to move. They will have a childlike mind that fills only satisfaction and joy.
"I'm not sure what you're doing, Neron, but you may want to cool it."(If I was still playing as Yaos, I'd propose imprisoning you for making such a cheesy pun. ;D)
"They weren't. Why would I want to attack NUKE? I've been trying hard not to provoke other gods into attacking me. Starting a war with you would not help in that regard. Besides, if I wanted NUKE destroyed or captured I'd simply send in my angels or attack it myself. I have no interest in either you or NUKE.""Sure....These war plans and half constructed war machines must have been built by a different ISAY." ::)
"I don't know. I'm not a king."
"Yes, praise The Auspex for granting me these gloves!"
The Rod is now in the sun. "Awwww. Fine."
The child is now under your implicit protection.
"Do they really carry them off? How spooky! I do want those pouches, though."
The coin lands on edge. "Awww."
You have also created a thousand Turonni and the city of Chance (/ʃɑ̃s/?).
The...
The fuck just happened.
Alright, well, I'm glad I put up those Obelisks now, and gave my followers all the shit I did. Didn't think Merfolk could survive this long out of water, actually, though they've obviously found some way to circumvent that.
Also, 'If I wanted X done I'd do it myself' is a terrible, terrible way to try and proclaim your innocence, because it acts like noone understands subtlety or measured action.
Watch out, he might threaten to kill you!Malakath chuckles, then she remembers what happened to the Burning Days and chuckles a bit more.
Watch out, he might threaten to kill you!After a while, you get used to it.
Yeah, at a certain point the ridiculousness present in everything you say gets so thick that I can't actually understand the words you say, anymore, Fusil. This was one of those times.
Melyssa creates "Painpointing magic" and grants it to her most loyal followers and the Archfiends.
Ask the magical woman if the ghosts speak to her, or if she's only able to see them. Ic they speak to her, ask what they say.
Melyssa listens to prayers.Spoiler: Painpoint Magic (click to show/hide)
"I propose that we punish the leaders of the mermen by torturing them. I also propose that we establish a link between the soldiers who helped with the invasion and the mermen leaders, so that they can feel the torture without actually getting hurt.
"You're right."Melyssa creates "Painpointing magic" and grants it to her most loyal followers and the Archfiends.
Ask the magical woman if the ghosts speak to her, or if she's only able to see them. Ic they speak to her, ask what they say.
Melyssa listens to prayers.Spoiler: Painpoint Magic (click to show/hide)
"I propose that we punish the leaders of the mermen by torturing them. I also propose that we establish a link between the soldiers who helped with the invasion and the mermen leaders, so that they can feel the torture without actually getting hurt.
"That sounds more like a spell then an entire class of magic....
Can someone tell me why I haven't cut her down yet? Why, exactly, have I let her live this long?""Multiple gods have suggested killing all of them, not considering the civilian casualities that will definitely occur when they do what they suggested, and you don't really seem to care. But when I suggest punishing the guilty ones, not even killing them, you lose your mind. It seems quite illogical to me."
"I'm going to do what it takes to protect my own. I will not unnecessarily take the lives of the soldiers, but I'm not going to listen to your nonsense.""You're right."Melyssa creates "Painpointing magic" and grants it to her most loyal followers and the Archfiends.
Ask the magical woman if the ghosts speak to her, or if she's only able to see them. Ic they speak to her, ask what they say.
Melyssa listens to prayers.Spoiler: Painpoint Magic (click to show/hide)
"I propose that we punish the leaders of the mermen by torturing them. I also propose that we establish a link between the soldiers who helped with the invasion and the mermen leaders, so that they can feel the torture without actually getting hurt.
"That sounds more like a spell then an entire class of magic....
Make it a spell instead of a magic class.QuoteCan someone tell me why I haven't cut her down yet? Why, exactly, have I let her live this long?""Multiple gods have suggested killing all of them, not considering the civilian casualities that will definitely occur when they do what they suggested, and you don't really seem to care. But when I suggest punishing the guilty ones, not even killing them, you lose your mind. It seems quite illogical to me."
"Why don't we all just ignore the world and stop feeding it divine magic for a few ticks and then we'll come back and reward the mortals that remained faithful?""Hsssssss!
"Multiple gods have suggested killing all of them, not considering the civilian casualities that will definitely occur when they do what they suggested, and you don't really seem to care. But when I suggest punishing the guilty ones, not even killing them, you lose your mind. It seems quite illogical to me."
The reason, at least form me, is that Flagelants have kept enough to themselves that other races did not raze their cities. Seems proof enough that Melyssa, while prefering torture as punishment, does not promote spreading it to those unwanting and undeserving.
"Why don't we all just ignore the world and stop feeding it divine magic for a few ticks and then we'll come back and reward the mortals that remained faithful?"
"No No, I meant that the Council and individual gods held back on the Miracles and Divine Intervention. If we don't stop how will Mortals learn to fend for themselves?""This isn't wise considering that many races lack enhanced common sense."
Give Gem Dragons and Mountwyrms enhanced common sense.
"While I agree with the kitchen god in principle, we are already somewhat detached from mortal affairs. Their perspective of time is different to ours."
"While I agree with the kitchen god in principle, we are already somewhat detached from mortal affairs. Their perspective of time is different to ours."(Our 98 days vs their ~1400-1500 years, right?)
Some mages are requesting a reverse Painpointing spell in which they see people who aren't (yet) feeling pain for its usefulness in playing Hide and Stake.MY FUCKING SIDES.
Tycho is currently rebuilding a shrine to Fortuna, unseen by anyone.
The parents of the child are on the way to Chance.
"But what's a little pain when I get to store food in my cheeks like a sailor?"
There is plenty of food, water, and entertainment at Chance. An unintended side effect of the prevalence of gambling halls is a generally improved understanding of probability.
The angel priests scouting around trying to find the military leaders have stumbled on a promising leak. They have found a room with a round table and a war map. Around the table are a jelly roll, a rock with a face drawn on, a jar of pickles, a cat with a wrinkled paper crown, and a bucket (‼) filled with something. There are signs pointing at them labeled "MERFOLK MILITARY LEADERS."
"I would like to propose that we give this emperor immortality so that we can through him into the sun and let him burn for eternity."
"I would like to propose that we give this emperor immortality so that we can through him into the sun and let him burn for eternity.""That sounds acceptable, but just burning won't be painful enough. We must make sure that he regrets what he has done."
"I would like to propose that we give this emperor immortality so that we can through him into the sun and let him burn for eternity.""I strongly oppose this. After all the trouble with the HoDo/Lich, do we really want to create another immortal, ultra-powerful, god-hating wizard?"
$$$
((What is the current population of Sewa? And how much would it cost to teleport their city with the guardians to one of the other habitable planets?))
"Neron, Why don't we move the Drrol to the Nikjol Ice Planet and then we can pool our Essence to make The Lightbulb and Wire, I'll get 75% of the cost and You'll deal with the other 25% so that we can finally start working on our Solar System?""Sure, but I thought we already made the Lightbulb and Wire."
In Honor Of Neron's Suggestion KI'Tork attempts to engage in a snowball fight with the Megabeast that appeared a few ticks ago.
Pfft, games of chance all the way, Fusil.
Pfft, games of chance all the way, Fusil.
"Lets combine them both! I invented a game with Varee called Russian Roulette (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=144651.msg5751543#msg5751543). Would you like to play?
"Why am I not surprised that we're discussing games instead of the Merfolk invasion?"
"You choose now to suddenly believe you're not the only power in the bubble?"
"Azem, can you loan me about 6E? I'll pay you back 8E in 8 Ticks."
"The Goldfather would be happy loan you essence, Lady Lecta. I'm also supposed to warn you against cheating him.""Excellent, I just have to get my affairs in order ((sort Essence-usage with GM)) first. Normally I would be insulted at the idea that I - the one who standardised death by oath-breaking - would break an oath, but considering the behaviour of a few other gods....it's understandable." ((I won't take the loan just yet.))
"By the way, I have a gift for the Council.""The detail and quality of the artwork is very impressive, but the feel of the gods seems a bit...odd, somehow. Like I'm looking at something more intense than reality and then slightly shifted...... Yes, I see what's going on. The picture captures the various gods and goddesses in one moment in time, creating the appearance of intensity by its solidarity. Its shiftiness comes from its lack of shiftiness, ironically. The deities are massive forces of change and having us "sit still" like this causes a strange effect to those who actually know the nature of the gods. Of course, the effect is only present when the actual image quality is as high as it is, and the personalities of the gods - from whatever time their personalities were captured - are captured well. It is an excellent piece and I don't believe there's anything quite like it."
A giant mural of every god who ever inhabited the bubble appears in the Council meta-location.
Oh, and make Chocobos magical now. Start the Chocobo Knights; develop a bond with their Chocobo(part of the Chocobo magic, woo yeah) that helps drive them both to greater deeds. Oh, and gives their rider some magic, nothing huge, mostly healing, protection, buffs (particularly speed; dat charge tho) and of course some Chocobos can use the soon-to-be infamous Chocobo Meteor.
"The detail and quality of the artwork is very impressive, but the feel of the gods seems a bit...odd, somehow. Like I'm looking at something more intense than reality and then slightly shifted...... Yes, I see what's going on. The picture captures the various gods and goddesses in one moment in time, creating the appearance of intensity by its solidarity. Its shiftiness comes from its lack of shiftiness, ironically. The deities are massive forces of change and having us "sit still" like this causes a strange effect to those who actually know the nature of the gods. Of course, the effect is only present when the actual image quality is as high as it is, and the personalities of the gods - from whatever time their personalities were captured - are captured well. It is an excellent piece and I don't believe there's anything quite like it."
((Made Chocobos a while ago, KJP approved them at that time, along with the magic, though the magic costs Essence to have, so, uh, yeah, not Ersatz
also why you gotta be mean about Malakath trying to provide some fluff?))
Spoiler: Time Slimes (click to show/hide)
"The title of The Best Godly Snowball Player in the Bubble."
Amathet follows the gods to the DBP and prepares his snowballs.
"It seems a bit unfair that I'm the only angel."
Amathet whistles, five angels appear on either side of him.
"Now if only Sappira were here..."
(I like playing Amathet.)
Propose the angel Sappira be returned to Azem in prime condition.
Propose the angel Sappira be returned to Azem in prime condition.
((Who's Sappira?))
Propose the angel Sappira be returned to Azem in prime condition.
Propose the angel Sappira be returned to Azem in prime condition.
"I am already sort of in a pantheon with Darruth. I might've forgotten the 'encourage my children to like him' part.""Cyrix himself is part of two pantheons so the idea of you being in two isn't unprecedented. Even if you wish to be of one pantheon, I encourage you to switch over to ours. Goodness does not inherently help to create wealh, unlike agriculture, and Darruth hasn't done much in the way of expressly increasing the the world's wealth, unlike myself. I can understand if you feel the need to stay with Darruth out of loyalty but thinking like that can only be unhealthy in the long-term, quite like mortal relationships. Join us, Azem. We can do great things together."
"The fact that Fusil still lives proves that threats have an unfortunate power over this Council."When was the last time when Fusil actualy acted on his threats? He has proven usefull in dealing with various crisis, and fimding out secrets inheritant to a bubble, magic to be specific. Why would I want him dead, when his worst offense is speaking?
*Laughs*"I wouldn't know. Our association was a long time ago Grauel, even by divine
I believe we used to have a bit in common as well. Does this mean Darruth and I have something in common by extension? Our friendly demeanor perhaps? ;)
"I believe Fusil is more dangerous than he is useful. The last time he dared to act against the Council, a god almost died. And we were frighteningly slow to stop him. Fusil is not as powerful as he thinks he is. But he is also a grave threat to all of us.""The fact that Fusil still lives proves that threats have an unfortunate power over this Council."When was the last time when Fusil actualy acted on his threats? He has proven usefull in dealing with various crisis, and fimding out secrets inheritant to a bubble, magic to be specific. Why would I want him dead, when his worst offense is speaking?
"I wouldn't know. Our association was a long time ago Grauel, even by divine standards."
Azem takes a deep breath and stares at whatever could be considered the floor of the Council meta-location.
"You should try conversing with my angels if you seek a sense of humor Grauel."
"Besides possibly killing Yaos and attacking KI`Tork, but sure Fusil has totally not done anything worrying or threatning."When did attacking Kl'Tork happened? I remember Fusil raging because parasites attacking him were originaly Kl'torks, but no actual attack.
"I'm curious, what did the two of you work on?"
"Now the God of Hunger is flirting with Azem too? There are many Gold diggers amongst the Gods."
Azem actually smiles slightly.
"He had three children last time I checked on him."
"I was merely pointing out that your form and sphere might intimidate people who don't know you. And I can't recall if he ever actually met you."
"Darruth, I apologise for slandering you. I'm not sure exactly how I slandered you, though. Which of my comments against you were false?"
-snip-"You make some good points Darruth, and while I do understand how you feel I have to disagree on a few points. Firstly, I and my priests encourage my followers to be good. We actually encourage people to look to you and your priests for guidance in matters of morality because you're better at providing that specific service than I or my own. I don't steal from your follower base to add to my own. Quite the reverse, actually. Secondly, I see no problem in giving rewards to those who worship me. To criticise me for doing so is to criticise every god or goddess who's ever exist, yourself included and Melyssa possibly excluded, depending on your point of view. (No offence, Mel.) Thirdly, I apologise entirely for trying to take Azem from you. If he wants to leave you then it's his choice but I shouldn't have tried pressuring him into doing so."
Azem glares in the direction of Darruth and Malakath."I accept. If you can schedule the Wyrmsmeet (why not Dragonsmeet?) for after the Merfolk invasion, that would be appreciated."
"You happen to be my other two guests."
"Yes, Make sure that the water is constantly warm like a hot tub, But an entire ocean.""We don't wont it to warm or it might melt the whole planet, it is just made of ice and snow."
"I thought you liked those shrines."
The Turonni welcome the child's family and introduce them to the Five Perfect Solids along with statues of blind Fortuna.
The Chance university of chance has been founded and is under construction. Some of the donations have been sent toward this effort.
You have created 60 000 more Turonni.
And now the mortal tries to threaten us. I propose that we shove him into the Void, which is probably where he came from, and Paradox him that way to deal with it permanently. If anyone has objections for some reason, please explain them.I have reasons to believe that this emperor is either very powerful, at least when it comes to teleporting, or a very good illusion. Either way, banishing it to the Void is unlikely to do anything.
"Khaziraad, not to accuse you of anything, but might I ask what you spent half your Essence on?"
"He was very obviously responsible for the nuking of the Kobold capitol and I just remembered he attacked QueBare a while back for no reason too.""Besides possibly killing Yaos and attacking KI`Tork, but sure Fusil has totally not done anything worrying or threatning."When did attacking Kl'Tork happened? I remember Fusil raging because parasites attacking him were originaly Kl'torks, but no actual attack.
(I need a more detailed plan of repayment for the loan. Is it a continuous repayment or a lump sum thing at the end? Is there any interest involved?)(It's more like <I can take the Essence loan whenever I want and I get the Essence immediately> and I give my non-binding word that I'll pay back the amount I stated by the time I said I would. This is to make sure I don't suddenly lose 8 Essence when I've been taken down to 7 Essence and dying from it. Luckily, Malakath's honourable when it comes to these kinds of deals.)
I propose that we shove him into the Void.Oppose "We don't know what that will do. There are safer alternatives."
"He was very obviously responsible for the nuking of the Kobold capitol and I just remembered he attacked QueBare a while back for no reason too."
"Fusil, Have you ever considered not using violence to solve a problem?"
"Because Earlier I was consuming the Hot Coca I made last Tick."(Time is weird. It's been a few decades or a century and a half at most since the parasites and the nuking, at least according to my headcanon.)
KI'Tork slurps his hot Coca loud enough for all things in the bubble to hear.
"That was good, Anyhow, I don't think we should permakill the Merman Emperor until we know his motives, how he's able to fight several gods for millenia, That sort of thing."
KI'Tork finishes his hot Coca and puts the giant,200 feet tall, container outside of a Luminee village.
"Because Earlier I was consuming the Hot Coca I made last Tick."(Time is weird. It's been a few decades or a century and a half at most since the parasites and the nuking, at least according to my headcanon.)
KI'Tork slurps his hot Coca loud enough for all things in the bubble to hear.
"That was good, Anyhow, I don't think we should permakill the Merman Emperor until we know his motives, how he's able to fight several gods for millenia, That sort of thing."
KI'Tork finishes his hot Coca and puts the giant,200 feet tall, container outside of a Luminee village.
"We don't need him to find out his motives. We can just propose that all gods know the Merman's motives and then we'll have them. In fact, I propose that we do."
"Azem, I may have to borrow more Essence from you than originally thought. Is 8 Essence alright? I can pay back 10E in 10 Ticks."
"I tried to reduce their numbers privately so as to not get smited by you, Fusil. Also I sense that Fusil may be going through some slight ego issues, But it might just be me. Violence is not necessary when you are in league with nearly a dozen gods that could collectively smite any threat if they weren't to lazy to vote. Good Day to you sir/madam/whatever gender gods are."
"We don't need him to find out his motives. We can just propose that all gods know the Merman's motives and then we'll have them. In fact, I propose that we do."
"Azem, I may have to borrow more Essence from you than originally thought. Is 8 Essence alright? I can pay back 10E in 10 Ticks."
"Well I didn't know that they'd attack the one race that could handle them. Besides when else have Armu ever gotten the chance to use their weapon skills?"
"And why in the Void would Parasites infect three foot tall weak thieving chefs? When they could be in control of pretty much any race that would fight 3 times better?"
While at the Dragonsmeet, Malakath will speak with Ikakus about chi-utilisation using and Gem Dragons about contracts and the legalese associated with them. How many Gem Dragons and Ikakus live on each planet?
"I propose that every time Malakath says the word 'chi' she is forced to make a charitable donation to OWW in the amount of 3E. It is starting to get irritating, the ill-thought out concept of a dead god should have died ages ago."Oppose
Propose that any time Fusil threatens someone, he donates 1 Essence to the Council and 2 Essence to OWF - Orphans Without Food.
Malakath observes Darruth's soul as he takes his notes. Does a god's soul act differently when using magic compared to a mortal's or another god's?A. I'm pretty sure Gods don't have souls, as we are above that
"Besides, that isn't even a cool acronym.""I'm sorry, but the starvation of orphans isn't "cool". I can't fathom why you would think to consider it as such."
"I propose that any time Malakath makes an annoying, useless, or otherwise pointless proposal, she is forced to oppose it and must donate 20E to BAD"Oppose
"I'm sorry, but the starvation of orphans isn't "cool". I can't fathom why you would think to consider it as such."
I Propose that any time gods use proposals in arguments that the proposals be ignored and the gods be put under a short censure to keep stupid proposals from popping up
Head to the Dragonsmeet and serve drinks with my magic teapot.
Walk over to Malakath
Gods don't have souls silly! Look!
Slide my dagger of soul-cutting into her ribs.
It doesn't work on gods! (I think)
Twirl my robe and go back to serving drinks and speaking with the people there.
Gods don't have souls silly! Look!If for some reason she made it to the Dragonsmeet, she'll have to go through my 5 angel priest bodyguards. Even if she makes her way through them, it'll buy me enough time to react and throw a Divine(Joha: Life)-enchanted fireball at her. Then I'll kill her soul and drain her corpse of Essence - in that order.
Slide my dagger of soul-cutting into her ribs.
"Stabbing Malakath in the gut is something I can approve of. Well done.""The ribs are in the chest - not the gut."
Then I'll kill her soul and drain her corpse of Essence - in that order.
If for some reason she made it to the Dragonsmeet, she'll have to go through my 5 angel priest bodyguards. Even if she makes her way through them, it'll buy me enough time to react and throw a Divine(Joha: Life)-enchanted fireball at her. Then I'll kill her soul and drain her corpse of Essence - in that order.
"The ribs are in the chest - not the gut."
"Stabbing Malakath in the gut is something I can approve of. Well done."If you stab someone with a dagger that doesn't cut, is it truly stabbing?
"Stabbing Malakath in the gut is something I can approve of. Well done."If you stab someone with a dagger that doesn't cut, is it truly stabbing?
And I was invited to the Dragonsmeet on the condition I don't kill anyone.
(This is mostly science, I was to see what happens if I stab a god of souls with a dagger that kills souls. Gods don't have souls, but will the sphere make something happen?)
"Forget it. I guess I'm not going to Dragonsmeet, Azem."
Cancel trip to Dragonsmeet and all activities that I would've done at Dragonsmeet.
"Can Tykki borrow that dagger Death God? I still want to stab Malakath."Certainly, as long as I get it back after the Dragonsmeet.
Certainly, as long as I get it back after the Dragonsmeet.
Lend Tykki my staff and show her how to use it.
The dagger just pops out like this!
Many Humans, Mountwyrms, Luminee, Wood Elves, Night Elves, and Odolhirum dwellers have been killed off!How did they even die? Mountwyrms have wings - they could've flown away.
Malakath reads some non-divinely-made books concerning skyfeatures. Namely, she reads on what skyfeatures there are, what they're associated with, what activates them, and in what order they activate when it comes to constellations.Many Humans, Mountwyrms, Luminee, Wood Elves, Night Elves, and Odolhirum dwellers have been killed off!How did they even die? Mountwyrms have wings - they could've flown away.
(Not really. I must've edited it only about 6 times. 7 times max.)Malakath reads some non-divinely-made books concerning skyfeatures. Namely, she reads on what skyfeatures there are, what they're associated with, what activates them, and in what order they activate when it comes to constellations.Many Humans, Mountwyrms, Luminee, Wood Elves, Night Elves, and Odolhirum dwellers have been killed off!How did they even die? Mountwyrms have wings - they could've flown away.
(That must be your most heavily edited comment yet -_-)
(Fair Enough, Also why are the humans one of the most populous races despite having no magical natural abilities?)
(I know, Nonetheless. Also I figured with the Kobold's massive breeding rate that they'd be more numerous, But hey that's how it goes when your competing against stuff like the Armu and Gruen. I'm Satisfied.)]
(I guess.)
KI'Tork increase the numbers of the Kobolds ten times over and spreads them across both worlds.
"I've recently thought of an idea that you may all be interested in. What if we used a Council-backed butterfly effect to seed the universe with proper stars, planets, and life-forms organically? After a few dozen Ticks we'd have a proper entire universe which creates its own beings who will then worship us. It'll also give us room to do whatever we want without aggravating each-other. Does anyone have any comments about this plan?"
KI'Tork only increases the Kobold Population 5 Times over.
"That isn't how the butterfly effect works, you can't expect to get out of paying hundreds of essence using it. Council backed or no, it is a horrible idea. It will either take a literal eternity or a bucket full of essence. Bad idea, I oppose it.""Actually, that is how it works. I've tested it. The protostar has been made and planets are starting to form. Best of all is I didn't use a single unit of Essence. The worst part is that it's taken quite a few Ticks just to get to this stage. It will only take a "literal eternity" if we don't influence it at all. You have to remember that the butterfly effect is still a godly action and things happen quicker when using it."
(Andres, creating a galaxy does not seem to me as something that needs to happen so soon as to not have the time to ask KJP for the cost.)(Ninja'd. It costs nothing assuming the process is dragged out for enough ticks. (I suggested a few(3) dozen Ticks.) See above for proof that the concept is possible without Essence.)
"Actually, that is how it works. I've tested it. The protostar has been made and planets are starting to form. Best of all is I didn't use a single unit of Essence. The worst part is that it's taken quite a few Ticks just to get to this stage. It will only take a "literal eternity" if we don't influence it at all. You have to remember that the butterfly effect is still a godly action and things happen quicker when using it."
(Ninja'd. It costs nothing assuming the process is dragged out for enough ticks. (I suggested a few(3) dozen Ticks.) See above for proof that the concept is possible without Essence.)
"You obviously can't comprehend the scale of this. We can make stars on a whim, shape planets on a dare, or blow up a few dozen asteroid belts for shooting practice. But it can not effect things. Even if your solar system does end up getting made, and does and up seeing use, it is not on the scale of what you are asking. You do not comprehend what the butterfly effect is, or how many planets you are asking to build, and how poorly this will work. Your little solar system has not even been created yet, why would you want to try expanding it when it isn't proven to even work?"You're incorrect. Plain and simple. You are wrong, in this case. There isn't a downside to this proposal, to put it simply. If it takes forever, oh well, we didn't lose anything. If it doesn't, and in fact is useful, we all stand to benefit. We'll be able to see beforehand how much Essence it will cost, and if it doesn't cost all that much, we can go through with it.
You're incorrect. Plain and simple. You are wrong, in this case. There isn't a downside to this proposal, to put it simply. If it takes forever, oh well, we didn't lose anything. If it doesn't, and in fact is useful, we all stand to benefit. We'll be able to see beforehand how much Essence it will cost, and if it doesn't cost all that much, we can go through with it.
"The Bubble is already extremely large. We won't be expanding the Bubble - just filling it in. Well, technically it's already filled with nebulae so we won't be "filling it in" so much as "condensing and moddelling." Regardless, it won't expand the Bubble. Shrink it? I don't know. Expand it? Definitely not." (I created the proto-star by using the butterfly effect on a nebula. They exist already - we don't need to create them.)
"The proto-star took about 10 Ticks to make. As for your other claims, I think you're talking out of your arse. What proof do you have that making planets will add "weight" to the Bubble? Perhaps the only thing of importance in the Bubble are sapients? Remember: temples and monuments are useless if there's no one to behold them. Unless you start citing your sources, I'm going to ignore your assumptions about the Bubble.""The Bubble is already extremely large. We won't be expanding the Bubble - just filling it in. Well, technically it's already filled with nebulae so we won't be "filling it in" so much as "condensing and moddelling." Regardless, it won't expand the Bubble. Shrink it? I don't know. Expand it? Definitely not." (I created the proto-star by using the butterfly effect on a nebula. They exist already - we don't need to create them.)
"Again, you are trying to explain things you do not understand at all. Nebulae are essentially empty space, as far as it concerns anything important, including us and the Void. You are a fool if you think that is how it works. Have you not noticed? The Void Ones target important planets. That is where temples and statues and other buildings are created. If they didn't have a reason for that, they could have built them far out of the sight of any God in existence, safe away. The planets, the important things, are what adds "weight" to the bubble, while for whatever reason the "empty space" does not. Filling up the empty space, removing it, and putting in "weights" will destroy our bubble, with almost nothing gained. You do not know what you are talking about. Have I not made that clear before? It hasn't even been tested. Your little protostar could take ten million years to fully form, and even then you would probably mess it up.
Assumptions are so petty of you, Fusil. You're still wrong. We get a huge amount of planets to serve as tools we can maneuver to use for magic in case we wanted to contact other bubbles. I have no reason whatsoever to believe you on any of this, and I don't. It won't increase the size of the bubble and they build temples because it's the mortals that give weight, not the planets. Planets are just huge chunks of rock. All those planets allow us to multiply our races immensely, and provide safe testing grounds for experiments. And again, maneuvering systems of stars and planets into position to provide conduits for magic will allow us to accomplish a great deal."Conduits for magic? Could you explain this phenomenon?"
Assumptions are so petty of you, Fusil. You're still wrong. We get a huge amount of planets to serve as tools we can maneuver to use for magic in case we wanted to contact other bubbles. I have no reason whatsoever to believe you on any of this, and I don't. It won't increase the size of the bubble and they build temples because it's the mortals that give weight, not the planets. Planets are just huge chunks of rock. All those planets allow us to multiply our races immensely, and provide safe testing grounds for experiments. And again, maneuvering systems of stars and planets into position to provide conduits for magic will allow us to accomplish a great deal.
"The proto-star took about 10 Ticks to make. As for your other claims, I think you're talking out of your arse. What proof do you have that making planets will add "weight" to the Bubble? Perhaps the only thing of importance in the Bubble are sapients? Remember: temples and monuments are useless if there's no one to behold them. Unless you start citing your sources, I'm going to ignore your assumptions about the Bubble."
Patterns, Malakath. It's evidenced by runes, and Cim probably knows far more about it than I, but simply put; geometric patterns, recurring sequences, and alignments of mystical phenomena enable magic to become more powerful and more efficient. Scale and effectiveness differs, but if we had enough material we could probably create a galaxy for the express purpose of allowing us to communicate with other Bubbles without killing ourselves.
"Of course! Rune magic! Perhaps if we modelled a galaxy with the rune of Cosmic - assuming it exists - can we perhaps enhance our godly abilities at no extra cost? I haven't delved much into that area of magic, I'm afraid. My focus is on souls at the moment."
Assumptions are so petty of you, Fusil. You're still wrong. We get a huge amount of planets to serve as tools we can maneuver to use for magic in case we wanted to contact other bubbles. I have no reason whatsoever to believe you on any of this, and I don't. It won't increase the size of the bubble and they build temples because it's the mortals that give weight, not the planets. Planets are just huge chunks of rock. All those planets allow us to multiply our races immensely, and provide safe testing grounds for experiments. And again, maneuvering systems of stars and planets into position to provide conduits for magic will allow us to accomplish a great deal.
"Bubbles have been destroyed that have no mortal presence. If your theory was correct, that would not be so. Again, you are overestimating magic. It doesn't work that way, and you can't move around planets with people as if they where pawns for no cost. If you would just pick up a book, you would see that everything I am saying is true. The Luminal's goals are not hidden at all, though its effects are more of a secret. Even a beginner's book would show you this. Anyone who has done anything with the Void, Cim, Serac, or even a handful of Mortals could tell you this at least. Once again, you keep doubting me, but put no effort into either disproving or researching the facts I bring up yourself. Could it be that you are actively attempting to increase the size of our bubble on request from the Void?"Quote"The proto-star took about 10 Ticks to make. As for your other claims, I think you're talking out of your arse. What proof do you have that making planets will add "weight" to the Bubble? Perhaps the only thing of importance in the Bubble are sapients? Remember: temples and monuments are useless if there's no one to behold them. Unless you start citing your sources, I'm going to ignore your assumptions about the Bubble."
"Books. Have you ever read one? Are you even capable of doing so? Then go look it up. There are plenty of documents showing the Null destroying bubbles, uninhabited, inhabited, against them or for them. I am sure if I just read a passage out loud, you wouldn't believe me. Even if I thought it best to share my sources, you would dismiss the facts offhand. I know you will. The only way you would ever believe me is if you pulled up the facts yourself."QuotePatterns, Malakath. It's evidenced by runes, and Cim probably knows far more about it than I, but simply put; geometric patterns, recurring sequences, and alignments of mystical phenomena enable magic to become more powerful and more efficient. Scale and effectiveness differs, but if we had enough material we could probably create a galaxy for the express purpose of allowing us to communicate with other Bubbles without killing ourselves.
"Runes have no power on their own, or do patterns. Magic isn't nearly powerful enough to do such a thing, you cannot expect to get something that would be so absurdly expensive with Godly essence with something as simple and weak as magic, not with a billion galaxies powering it.""Of course! Rune magic! Perhaps if we modelled a galaxy with the rune of Cosmic - assuming it exists - can we perhaps enhance our godly abilities at no extra cost? I haven't delved much into that area of magic, I'm afraid. My focus is on souls at the moment."
"Malakath, you are an absolute idiot. First, the categories you keep trying to put magic into are a lot more fluid then you believe. Second, what we do is not Cosmic magic. It is Godly creation. It is as different as a man and a finger puppet, they scarcely even take the same shape. Don't you have some mages following you? If you are so afraid of books, why not just ask one of them how magic works?"
Azem takes several deep breaths.
"You do not desire our belief Armsbearer. You do not desire our competence. And I sincerely doubt you desire our existence. So what is it you desire Fusil? Please, enlighten me."
"Fusil, you're suggesting that no matter what we do we're going to be destroyed by the Void. As you said, inhabited or uninhabited, with or against, empty or filled, the Bubble will be destroyed. If that's the case then why don't we just make a new Bubble we can move into before the Luminals destroy this one? I'm not suggesting we do that, I'm just curious as to why we shouldn't."
EDIT: Lord Sephir Lecta checks the Library for books relating to fusions between gods from other Bubbles.
"Why can't we just negotiate some kind of agreement with them if that's the case?"
Azem snorts.
"The great and mighty Fusil Armsbearer, our humble protector, first among the gods. That really is who you want to be isn't it? No, that is who you believe you are. But I do not trust your 'protection'."
(*whispers* Fusil just wants to impress Darruth-kun. ;D)
EDIT: (I just realised that Fusil would be the worst yandere to ever live. A normal yandere would slap a girl for getting too close to their crush. If someone tried that with Darruth, Fusil would probably blow up their planet and kill their entire race.)
"Why not set up relations with both?"
"What good would that do? The new bubble would be destroyed as well. If anything, we need Void knowlage to do such a thing, it would only be playing into their plans. If you think we can evacuate billions of souls into it, you are insane. If this bubble is destroyed, everything in it is destroyed to. We might be able to make it into that new bubble, but the Void would be impassable to mortals, even more so without the Void telling us how...""If necessary, I can just hold the souls within me while we move. Then it's the matter of a mere Council proposal to bring them all back to life."
(Wow, the insert quote button catches edits? Also, I can't wait until Tykki stabs you in the neck. Fusil is still a dude, for all the Newbs watching at home)(Dude, that was OOC. That is NOT how Malakath views the situation. She's also been regarding Fusil as a male for a while now, it's just that she hasn't had the opportunity to call Fusil a 'he' yet.)
Azem growls.
"And so we continue the same endless dance unto eternity."
And you're right; on their own, they don't. They help magic that is used with them. That is how they work. Don't bother telling me I'm wrong, I can already hear you saying it, the fact of the matter is that I know from experience, and is some portion of what powers the Ley Lines.
And KI'Tork, he's wrong about them all being untrustworthy backstabbing bastards. A lot of them are, but they don't break their contracts, from what I've read. Still not a good idea, as lawmancers never break contracts either, but they can still wring you dry.
I have a question, Fusil. How would you know bubbles had been destroyed without a mortal presence in them? A. How would you know they were destroyed since the books can't exactly document their Bubble's destruction considering everyone in the bubble would be dead or paradoxed and B. Unless a God wrote it, no mortals means no authors, and if you think we're all idiots why would they be any different?
Finally, while Creation and Magic are not the same, neither are they separate, as you should well know, considering your recent projects. The one flows into the other. And a tool for Creation is assisted by having an ordered pattern as much as anything else.
"If necessary, I can just hold the souls within me while we move. Then it's the matter of a mere Council proposal to bring them all back to life."
(Dude, that was OOC. That is NOT how Malakath views the situation. She's also been regarding Fusil as a male for a while now, it's just that she hasn't had the opportunity to call Fusil a 'he' yet.)
"...No, you can't. That is physically impossible. It would probably kill you just as easily...""Which part? The eating? The storing? The moving? The reviving?"
(I didn't miss an update did I?)(You didn't.)
Grauel nonchalantly pulls out a deck of cards and starts playing solitaire to kill time.
Propose we shut up Fusil, permanently.Oppose
"It worked before."
I know, I just have a wonderful sense of humour :)"Really? Whenever we let him speak, he threatens to bomb and stab us. I'm getting sick of it."
I like lots of card games, but ones based on pure chance are best. Drawing cards like I did with Tycho, for example. For all the good that has subsequently done me...
Also oppose silencing Fusil. He can be annoying at times, mostly all the time, but actually talks more sense than certain other deities.
I know, I just have a wonderful sense of humour :)
I like lots of card games, but ones based on pure chance are best. Drawing cards like I did with Tycho, for example. For all the good that has subsequently done me...
"Really? Whenever we let him speak, he threatens to bomb and stab us. I'm getting sick of it."
Grauel forms an aspect of himself at Fortuna's location
The choice is yours. I simply felt like passing time. Anyway, take a seat.
Chairs, food and drink appear.
Likely not as good as the god of kitchen's but help yourself.
(I always figured we had aspects present at the Council meta-location anyway. Unless you happen to play a mopey withdrawn god.)((god of Depression? I could play that))
Please cut the deck, as many times as you wish so long as all the piles are relatively equal, and choose a pile.
(Then we'd suffer the same problem as when Azem was the god of Greed but Yaos out-greeded him by a frikkin mile, except this time it's Azem doing the usurping.)(I always figured we had aspects present at the Council meta-location anyway. Unless you happen to play a mopey withdrawn god.)((god of Depression? I could play that))
((was just kidding, I have... some kind of sense of humour))
I got a 6 :(
((was just kidding, I have... some kind of sense of humour))
I got a 6 :(
Luck is a fickle thing.
Shows 5.
See?
Azem has promised to give Malakath 8E to be paid back as 10E on T112 (unenforced). Malakath does not have the capacity to hold this.(Retcon please. Azem agreed to loan me Essence but I haven't yet decided to take the loan. I have the option of taking the loan whenever I want, though. Now, I really need to know how much Essence I have right now before I do anything.)
"I have opened the BAKERY OF PAIN! Want a loaf?""That sounds truly delicious, I'll take two dozen. What are they made of?"
"How do the Flagellants get to experience so much pain?""The Flagellants are made to experience pain, thus they are very creative in finding new methods of doing so."
"I think this man is an infiltrator against our Glorious Resistance. Any advice?""Before I can help you with this, what are you resisting. I wish to know that, for I do not want to offend any gods."
"Because I thought you cared about them."
The travelling entertainers have begun their journey to Chance.
"Look at my wonderfully large cheek pouches!"
"Can you curse my luck for this game completely?"
Fortuna has created around 20M Turonni.
"A Thought has occurred to me, How in ourselves are we going to defend the Bubble from Void Entities?"
"A Thought has occurred to me, How in ourselves are we going to defend the Bubble from Void Entities?""The Edge and the Churn itself prevent them from directly attacking us, at least for now. Beyond that, working to eliminate Void pacts and worship will go a long way in reducing their influence."
"Unless they feel like it, of course. How many Tiers of Void Entity are there and can they move back and forth between them? And Why are the Void Entities fighting? What are the Edge and the Churn?"
"Where is our Bubble Located and how did the Multiverse begin?"
Fusil, you're being sensible at the moment, so I'll ask you a question about the Void I've been wondering about, since this is a subject you probably do have a fairly damned good understanding of, at least as much as can be had from the Books. If the Void only gets power when the Gods give it power, where do Void cults and worshippers come in? Don't they spread Void Influence as well?
And does anyone else find it incredibly odd that the Divine Library works at all, considering how difficult it would be to even communicate with another Bubble, yet we were able to obtain books from many different ones, including ones detailing the destruction of their or another Bubble(somehow, still not sure how that works), at comparatively low cost?
"How many Tiers of Void Entity are there?""Five. From highest to lowest: Hadal, Abyssal, Bathyal, Mesal, Epial."
"can they move back and forth between them?""Only up as they age and gain power, to my knowledge."
"Why are the Void Entities fighting?""For the same reasons as we do, personal schisms. For the factions, they aren't exactly fighting. The Luminants want to find the Umbrals, who are hiding, while the Liminals try to keep a balance between the two other factions."
"What are the Edge and the Churn?""The Edge is the border between a Bubble and the Void, a barrier extremely hard to cross without divine power. The Churn is the primordial entropy in the broken spacetime of the Void. Without a carefully planned course, collisions with energies quickly cause destructive paradoxes to anything in it."
"Where is our Bubble Located and how did the Multiverse begin?""Our Bubble is somewhere in the Void. That's as much as I know for these questions."
If the Void only gets power when the Gods give it power, where do Void cults and worshippers come in? Don't they spread Void Influence as well?"It seems to me any sapient being can give influence to the Null. Gods are worth more to them, but they will gladly take mortal cultists."
And does anyone else find it incredibly odd that the Divine Library works at all, considering how difficult it would be to even communicate with another Bubble, yet we were able to obtain books from many different ones, including ones detailing the destruction of their or another Bubble(somehow, still not sure how that works), at comparatively low cost?"Assuming there are nearly infinite Bubbles out there, it is quite likely some of their ideas would, by chance, survive the Churn to find their ways to us. Or perhaps, less likely, they were written by the Null themselves to deceive us, or a mortal with a knack for fiction. Maybe there is a Null of Knowledge literally made out of books on all subjects."
"Oh Just an existential crisis. How old are they and which is the strongest Faction?"
"Assuming there are nearly infinite Bubbles out there, it is quite likely some of their ideas would, by chance, survive the Churn to find their ways to us. Or perhaps, less likely, they were written by the Null themselves to deceive us, or a mortal with a knack for fiction. Maybe there is a Null of Knowledge literally made out of books on all subjects."
"What if their was an entire Mutltiverse of Multiverses with incomprehensible beings moving in between them, And that would be less than an Atom in the grand scheme of things!"
KI'Tork starts zoning out.
"Ah well, Time to cook!"
"If we were to kill everyone so that everyone reincarnates at once, would they theoretically have no knowledge of the Void so long as they don't come into contact with Void material? Babies don't have inherent knowledge of the Void, do they?"
"If we were to kill everyone so that everyone reincarnates at once, would they theoretically have no knowledge of the Void so long as they don't come into contact with Void material? Babies don't have inherent knowledge of the Void, do they?"
"That wasn't a suggestion that we do so, it was just an idea. If you harm my followers I will kill you."
You were the one suggesting murdering everything!
"That wasn't a suggestion that we do so, it was just an idea.""I asked what would happen if we did - not that we should."
"Why don't we all just focus on increasing our power to fight them instead of trying to reduce theirs, Because they could easily gain more in as much time as it takes to absorb Void Essence!"
"Why don't we all just focus on increasing our power to fight them instead of trying to reduce theirs, Because they could easily gain more in as much time as it takes to absorb Void Essence!"
"Even the weakest among them currently are more powerful then all of us combined, and they outnumber us. Getting more powerful certainly is an option, but we will not be able to have a war against them we could survive any time soon. The best we can hope for is to push them out..."
"What if we proposed to replicate the same energy as the Keshan dust ring which removes Void influence? I'd have done it myself but Atropos ruined that plan by making it alive, thus making it too difficult to study. Also, is it possible to remove Void statues and temples if the god who made them is dead? It's quite possible that the god of Treachery made a deal with the Void before his demise."
"Exactly why we need to stop debating and Essence hoarding and start contributing! We need more Worshipers if we want to survive."
"Create More Worlds and Dimensions to make more room, And Build more Temples/Cathedrals."
"Of Course not, We need more Essence income so that we'll be able to fight them on their level!"
Speaking of fighting the void, why don't we distract them from our bubble?
Serac says
"We cannot kill even a single null. It's impossible.
Think about this, there are infinite bubbles. Void cultists exist in bubbles. Therefore, all nulls have infinite essence from the infinite cultists. And that's not even including void energy...
Only a null can possibly defeat a null."
So, we need to get them to ignore us somehow!
Speaking of fighting the void, why don't we distract them from our bubble?
Serac says
"We cannot kill even a single null. It's impossible.
Think about this, there are infinite bubbles. Void cultists exist in bubbles. Therefore, all nulls have infinite essence from the infinite cultists. And that's not even including void energy...
Only a null can possibly defeat a null."
So, we need to get them to ignore us somehow!
"Of Course not, We need more Essence income so that we'll be able to fight them on their level!"
"Having bodies helps to an extent, but is not an end-all solution. The more we have, the less effect we will see. To increase your income, you would have to spend some essence spreading your sphere as Cim or Gruel have.
If you plan on fighting the Null directly you will end up disappointed. That plan is foolish. Even if we became strong enough to defeat them if they ever stepped foot into the Bubble, they can simply move our Bubble an inch and destroy everything inside it. Or pop it. Or a dozen other things we wouldn't be able to stop without enough knowlage. It would get us killed, without scratching the Null."Speaking of fighting the void, why don't we distract them from our bubble?
Serac says
"We cannot kill even a single null. It's impossible.
Think about this, there are infinite bubbles. Void cultists exist in bubbles. Therefore, all nulls have infinite essence from the infinite cultists. And that's not even including void energy...
Only a null can possibly defeat a null."
So, we need to get them to ignore us somehow!
"Its your fault they noticed us in the first place, Serac. The original Sin of our bubble. What do you mean by distracting them?'
Speaking of fighting the void, why don't we distract them from our bubble?"What if we become the Null?
Serac says
"We cannot kill even a single null. It's impossible.
Think about this, there are infinite bubbles. Void cultists exist in bubbles. Therefore, all nulls have infinite essence from the infinite cultists. And that's not even including void energy...
Only a null can possibly defeat a null."
So, we need to get them to ignore us somehow!
"What if we become the Null?
When you think about it, We're not that different. We are semi-omniscient beings with great power relative to mortals, and we confined to Bubbles with spheres of influence to which we center around. We gain Essence, which is similar to Void energy, from worship.
The Null are fully-omniscient beings. They have great power relative to us and extreme power relative to mortals. They belong to no Bubbles and have no specific spheres of influence. They harvest near-infinite Void energy at whim, but cannot apply it directly to Bubbles unless they have influence in them. They gain Bubble influence through mortal worship.
Perhaps we can join them, since we clearly cannot beat them."
"Oh sorry.(sarcasm) I got one detail on the Nulls wrong, thus everything else I said must be utterly wrong.Quote"What if we become the Null?
"Your knowlage on Null is rather lax. This would likely get us killed, with no real gain. Though there is at least one theory that the Null used to be or are Gods of the Greater Bubble, though there is no evidence of that yet."QuoteWhen you think about it, We're not that different. We are semi-omniscient beings with great power relative to mortals, and we confined to Bubbles with spheres of influence to which we center around. We gain Essence, which is similar to Void energy, from worship.
"We are nowhere near Omniscient. The things we know are completely eclipsed by the things we don't. If we where semi-omniscient, we would likely be able to know what to do about the Void. Essence is almost the same thing as Void Energy, which you are right about, though not in the way you believed."QuoteThe Null are fully-omniscient beings. They have great power relative to us and extreme power relative to mortals. They belong to no Bubbles and have no specific spheres of influence. They harvest near-infinite Void energy at whim, but cannot apply it directly to Bubbles unless they have influence in them. They gain Bubble influence through mortal worship.
"Likewise, the Null are not All-knowing either. They aren't even most knowing. They do belong to the Greater Bubble, and each one has a sphere of influence like we do. As I said before, you don't understand anything about them."QuotePerhaps we can join them, since we clearly cannot beat them."
"It may be possible, but in the end we would be the weakest Null in existence. We would be forced to either pick a side in the conflict, destroying us, or not associate with anything, destroying us. It would also mean abandoning our followers, our bubble, and essentially going mad. Our existence would become meaninglessness, we would be Demons as they are."
Propagate Sewa and Guardians with 3E allow them to expand their city, and listen to their messages/prayers
(Playergamer, you need to register in OOC thread (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=144704.0) first :P You messed up Stirk.)
Xaver appears out of void."Welcome Xaver. I am Melyssa, Godess of Torture and Mother of Misery. I hope that we can get along, but remember: all strength can be broken."
"...Hello?"
Xaver appears out of void."Hello! I see you've just come from the Void. What's it like?"
"...Hello?"
"Hello! I see you've just come from the Void. What's it like?"
"I agree that it needs a name, but empty does not sound fitting. What if we call it Bubble-void?''Quote"Hello! I see you've just come from the Void. What's it like?"
"Void with a lowercase v. Like between the planets and their moon. We really need a better name for all that empty space. Empty?"
"Yes, calling it emptiness should prevent confusion."Quote"Hello! I see you've just come from the Void. What's it like?"
"Void with a lowercase v. Like between the planets and their moon. We really need a better name for all that empty space. Empty?"
"I agree that it needs a name, but empty does not sound fitting. What if we call it Bubble-void?''Quote"Hello! I see you've just come from the Void. What's it like?"
"Void with a lowercase v. Like between the planets and their moon. We really need a better name for all that empty space. Empty?"
Azem bows his head at the new god, looking less depressed than usual.*Slithers in*
"Welcome. The best advice I can possibly give you is to keep your head down, and be careful who you trust."
"Greetings new god, my name is Neron, God of Ice, hopefully we can work together in the future. Just some starting advice, don't annoy Fusil and find yourself some allies for when you eventually do annoy him.""Annoying him is inevitable. You just have to find a way to make things right again. Allies will indeed be helpful"
Most secrets kept are neutral at worst.
"Also, don't make me angry or you die."Hahaha! You guys are hilarious! :D
(whoops, accidentally put navy instead of brown.)
Xaver seems surprised by the outburst of welcomes.
"Thank you?"
Xaver steps back and watches events unfold.
(whoops, accidentally put navy instead of brown.)
Atropos organizes a group of Twilight Born (Who would make amazing assassins if you think about it) into an assassins guild known as "Yol-tore". The assassins of the guild will gain the ability to steal the life-force of those they kill, extending their life at the cost of the target's.
Atropos organizes a group of Twilight Born (Who would make amazing assassins if you think about it) into an assassins guild known as "Yol-tore". The assassins of the guild will gain the ability to steal the life-force of those they kill, extending their life at the cost of the target's.
Kit needs to get better if she wants to contend with the likes of Tykki and the other Arkangels... She should train more!
Also, she wants a rematch with Tykki. Could that be arranged?
Kit will spend some time every tick training in the DBP, anyone who wants to train with her/spar with her can. If no other god's angels show up, Angela and Nuparhi are willing to help her.
Malakath organises a number of non-Void-worshipping sapients (besides Golems, Gremlins, Armu, etc.) into the group known as the Evil-Eaters.Spoiler: Evil-Eaters (click to show/hide)
Lord Vandire Lecta invents a new chi/magic technique that can be used by intermediate or above chi-users. A chi-user can convert magical energy into chi and thus gain access to more powerful attacks, however, this is not the new technique. The new technique is done by cutting their chi-firing extremity and drawing blood which allows for maximumly-efficient magic-to-chi conversion when drawing chi to that extremity. This technique can be rather dangerous as drawing too much magic will result in soul-burnout.
I'll keep an eye on both of these new "experiments" and will intervene if unexpectedly bad consequences arise. (0E) For example, I designed Evil-Eaters so that it's functionally impossible for an Eater to be overcome with evil. One thing I'm particularly interested in is if praying to Darruth weakens their ability to control their evil side. It certainly doesn't strengthen it, after all.
"First off, does evil even exist as an entity that can be removed in such away? I am fairly certain it is a moral term and not a physical force that can be used in the way you describe it. It may be used to grant power to people like Durrath and those things he made, but it isn't exactly something that can be eaten.""Well, we'll find out soon enough, won't we? If it doesn't, I'm on standby to repair any damage it causes."
"Second, it is a horrible,horrible idea to deliberately make something that is deliberately evil that has the power to eat souls.""Neither Evil-Eaters nor Evils are capable of eating souls. Evil-Eaters eat evil - not souls. Evils don't eat anything - they just exist."
"Third, I propose we remove the designation of "chi" to keep Malakath from assuming strange things about it. ""I oppose this. I've done some experiments and chi does in fact exist. I found a volunteer Ikaku and asked him to fire a chi blast while I temporarily blocked off his ability to use magic. He remained able to fire the chi blast. There's still a couple of experiments I have left to do. I guess it won't hurt to do them openly."
And the amount of logic shown by you believing that the God of Good would weaken someone's ability to control evil impulses, rather than strengthen that ability, is remarkably stifled."The way I see it, having a sphere gives you control of things over things that preside within that sphere and decrease control in things opposing that sphere. For example, Cim has great control over Order but poor control over Chaos. That's my theory, anyway, and this will test if that theory is correct. I shouldn't have presented my theory as an assumption. I suppose that's a holdover from Yaos' angel and I apologise for my behaviour in that regard."
Besides which, these abominations make it impossible to redeem someone's soul, and as there is no such thing as Pure Evil, you are erasing that chance every time they eat a soul."Evil-Eaters do not eat souls. They eat most - not all - of the evil within someone and they send the soul to Zeranzel where they will stay a while before reincarnating. Evils are an entirely separate entity from the Evil-Eater and those they kill that are literally and entirely created from evil. How can such a being be anything but pure evil?"
"Eating evil souls will destroy our reincarnation system removing a souls second chance.""Evil-Eaters don't eat souls. If you're referring to my eating of Evils, know that it won't destroy the reincarnation system because it's adding one soul and immediately subtracting one soul. It's zero-sum and thus harmless. As for second chances, it's unwise to give a being of pure evil a second chance."
Malkath, remember when you devoured souls of my followers after they killed your angel? You realy want to have people doing such things in your name at random?"That is an excellent point, Khaziraad. I'd thought something would go wrong but I didn't know what. That's why I chose to go on standby when it did. Now that I see what could go wrong, I have reason enough to stop or at least pause creation of the Evil-Eaters."
"I Thought that you stopped trying to make them.""You would be correct if you thought that."
"Also, Malakath would you mind explaining what Evil-Eaters are eating. The way you were talking made it sound like your Evil-Eaters were taking the evil from people souls to create some sapient creature that was made of evil and unable to change, whose only purpose is to be eaten.""That's right except for two cases. First, the creatures they create are non-sapient to ensure they can't worship the Void. Second, while you're correct in that their only purpose is to be eaten, the Evil-Eaters don't eat Evils - I do. That may be confusing to some."
"I Accept that Proposal!"
"That's right except for two cases. First, the creatures they create are non-sapient to ensure they can't worship the Void. Second, while you're correct in that their only purpose is to be eaten, the Evil-Eaters don't eat Evils - I do. That may be confusing to some."
"Oppose. Don't you fools see?! Us agreeing is not a cause for celebration, but a sign of the incoming Apocalypse!"
Quote"Oppose. Don't you fools see?! Us agreeing is not a cause for celebration, but a sign of the incoming Apocalypse!"
What would you sugest us do if Apocalypse is comming? Not party?
"Why do you need Can Food? And what is a don?"
"That sounds dreadfully boring."
"Having a party with a Apocalypse sounds like a wonderful idea!"
Propose we start the Apocalypse by destroying the sun.
"Having a party with an Apocalypse sounds like a wonderful idea!"
Propose we start the Apocalypse by destroying the sun.
"Oppose. Propose we upgrade the Sun with the ability to harm gods on direct contact, then throw Neron into it as a form of divine divine punishment."...I kinda want to support this. Having a furnace with such power would be usefull for other purpoces. It's not like it would kill him. Yes. Support.
Quote"Oppose. Propose we upgrade the Sun with the ability to harm gods on direct contact, then throw Neron into it as a form of divine divine punishment."...I kinda want to support this. Having a furnace with such power would be usefull for other purpoces. It's not like it would kill him. Yes. Support.
I can sell you a sun in a gemstone for 8E. Autoenchances weapons/armor in which it is inserted."I'd like to buy that. Is it possible to reserve the right to buy it? I'm not sure how much Essence I'll have in the next Tick."
Oppose"Having a party with an Apocalypse sounds like a wonderful idea!"
Propose we start the Apocalypse by destroying the sun.
"Oppose. Propose we upgrade the Sun with the ability to harm gods on direct contact, then throw Neron into it as a form of divine divine punishment."
"You do realise we could just turn immaterial and be utterly unharmed by the supernova, right? That's how I survived flying into the sun. I could've just given myself a body that could handle the fire of the sun if I wanted to as well."Oppose"Having a party with an Apocalypse sounds like a wonderful idea!"
Propose we start the Apocalypse by destroying the sun.
"Oppose. Propose we upgrade the Sun with the ability to harm gods on direct contact, then throw Neron into it as a form of divine divine punishment."
"That sounds to boring. Instead, I would like to propose that we hold a party with everyone in the sun as we explode it!"
I can sell you a sun in a gemstone for 8E. Autoenchances weapons/armor in which it is inserted.
"Having a party with an Apocalypse sounds like a wonderful idea!"
Propose we start the Apocalypse by destroying the sun.
"Oppose. Propose we upgrade the Sun with the ability to harm gods on direct contact, then throw Neron into it as a form of divine divine punishment."
OPPOSE ALL PROPOSALS CONCERNING PUNISHING NERON!
"UNDER WHAT AUTHORITY DO YOU ATTEMPT TO SMITE A FELLOW GOD? WHERE IS YOUR RIGHT TO DO SO?"
OPPOSE ALL PROPOSALS CONCERNING PUNISHING NERON!
"UNDER WHAT AUTHORITY DO YOU ATTEMPT TO SMITE A FELLOW GOD? WHERE IS YOUR RIGHT TO DO SO?"
"I really wish I wasn't the only Elder insulted by your use of the word "My" Fusil."
"I really wish I wasn't the only Elder insulted by your use of the word "My" Fusil."
"I had more a hand in creating and shaping it then anyone else, it is only right to call it mine."
"I really wish I wasn't the only Elder insulted by your use of the word "My" Fusil."
"I had more a hand in creating and shaping it then anyone else, it is only right to call it mine."
coughcoughpropose altering the records so Fusil's efforts are forgottencoughcough
"I really wish I wasn't the only Elder insulted by your use of the word "My" Fusil."
"I had more a hand in creating and shaping it then anyone else, it is only right to call it mine."
coughcoughpropose altering the records so Fusil's efforts are forgottencoughcough
"Sounds like you have a cough. I hear the best cure for coughs is lead. Do you want me to give you some? Maybe we can try bleeding it out of you."
"You will not threaten KI`Tork, Fusil."
Xaver appears.
"Hmm. What is happening, fellow gods?"
After Xaver has been informed of the situation, he heads down to one of the planets and creates his Watchmen.
Lead, what kind of bloody medical facilities do you visit?
No thanks Fusil, I'm sure it'll clear up on its own, thanks all the same.
"You will not threaten KI`Tork, Fusil."
"I'm not even going to try to argue with you. What I will say is this. You are not a force for Creation Fusil. You are an abomination that seems to exist to stifle Creation."
"I'm not even going to try to argue with you. What I will say is this. You are not a force for Creation Fusil. You are an abomination that seems to exist to stifle Creation.""That's one way to look at it. Personally, I think violence helps creation, instead of hindering it. Yes, it kills people, but they become something new entirely. And violence, after all, separates the strong from the weak."
"Fusil does not separate the weak from the strong, he separates his creations from ours and goes out of the way to attack anything that threatens "his" beautiful system.""I'm not even going to try to argue with you. What I will say is this. You are not a force for Creation Fusil. You are an abomination that seems to exist to stifle Creation.""That's one way to look at it. Personally, I think violence helps creation, instead of hindering it. Yes, it kills people, but they become something new entirely. And violence, after all, separates the strong from the weak."
Fusil has a sensitive side after all... he loves his wee things! ((:3))"Fusil does not separate the weak from the strong, he separates his creations from ours and goes out of the way to attack anything that threatens "his" beautiful system.""I'm not even going to try to argue with you. What I will say is this. You are not a force for Creation Fusil. You are an abomination that seems to exist to stifle Creation.""That's one way to look at it. Personally, I think violence helps creation, instead of hindering it. Yes, it kills people, but they become something new entirely. And violence, after all, separates the strong from the weak."
Xaver raises a godly eyebrow.
"Mortals come and mortals go, planets come and planets go. Universes come and universes go. A system cannot be coddled forever. If it deserves to stand, it will stand. If it deserves to fall, it will fall."
Xaver raises a godly eyebrow.
"Mortals come and mortals go, planets come and planets go. Universes come and universes go. A system cannot be coddled forever. If it deserves to stand, it will stand. If it deserves to fall, it will fall."
Azem rolls his eyes.
"I do peruse the very earliest Council records from time to time Fusil. The "perfect reincarnation cycle" you love so much? Was the idea of the god of Treachery."
"If they need strength to survive, then I will be their strength. They will never fall as long as I stand."Atropos giggles, then disappears.
I wouldn't be too surprised if he's upgraded Tykki a very large amount since creating him.
"Fusil. Mind your pride. Don't disrespect the efforts of others."
And there's the fact that the first mortals were the product of the God of the Night, not you. So everything in creation being of your design, while inherently ridiculous in the first place, is factually wrong.
Your creations are not the most powerful, by the way. I believe Atropos' time-death-slimes are, actually, judging by how much they cost to make. Three times more than Tykki, at least.
"And why not? Your efforts amount to nothing compared to mine.""Don't they? Just because I don't tell you what I am doing or have done, doesn't mean I am doing nothing. Go read one of your books on Spheres and you will understand. And in the mean time, try to respect others."
"Everything worthy in creation has been created by me. The night elves are not noteworthy.""Please define 'worthy'. We seem to think the word means different things."
Why are we even bothering to engage Fusil? We all know he'll never see anything resembling reality, what with his massive ego getting in the way.
Making a new character, so go ahead and remove Dar.
"Don't they? Just because I don't tell you what I am doing or have done, doesn't mean I am doing nothing. Go read one of your books on Spheres and you will understand. And in the mean time, try to respect others."
"Please define 'worthy'. We seem to think the word means different things."
Why are we even bothering to engage Fusil? We all know he'll never see anything resembling reality, what with his massive ego getting in the way.
"Just because you haven't told anyone what you are doing or have done doesn't mean I don't know. Respect is something that must be earned, and I cannot believe any of you are capable of earning it from anything.""Why do you think you yourself are, then?"
"Worthy means worthy. Important. Valuable. What do you believe it means?""The same thing, curiously. However, to me, the night elves are noteworthy. Worthiness is clearly subjective, and not something you get to decide."
"I made this reality, I think I know it better then you.""If you know it well, why do you call it 'reality'?"
"Why do you think you yourself are, then?"
"The same thing, curiously. However, to me, the night elves are noteworthy. Worthiness is clearly subjective, and not something you get to decide."
"If you know it well, why do you call it 'reality'?"
"Worthy, obviously.""Sounds like you misunderstood the question, let me rephrase it: Why do you think you, yourself, are capable of earning respect from anything, as opposed to anyone else?"
"The Night Elves have done thing since creation, nothing noteworthy at least. Their God left and they had no guidance to do anything, with their new guide not exactly leading them to great things. I am sure you know all about that.""They are a race as any other, sapient and capable of worship. If you don't understand what that implies, then I can't explain it."
"Using a different word wouldn't be very fitting.""Yes, it would. You say you know more than Darruth, which I can believe, but it doesn't seem to be much to say."
"You simply don't understand. I will try to explain what the issue is one more time, this time in verse.""You pave a road, you carve a path, you blaze a trail,
but you look like a stupid dog chasing its tail,
convincing others that it's lots of fun;
a grave mistake within the words you've spun."
"Well, then, I have no more to say to you if you don't understand why people don't respect you."
"Everyone who's respect I care about respects me. Why should I care about the respect of petty Gods?"Oh now that's just too funny. Cim, or Azem, petty?
"Everyone who's respect I care about respects me. Why should I care about the respect of petty Gods?"Oh now that's just too funny. Cim, or Azem, petty?
Hells, I'm fairly sure Grauel doesn't like you either. And as for the question, I think your pride, since you've demanded respect in the past, and get pissy about 'insults'.
I respect your combat ability. I respect your determination. I respect little else about you, since little else is worthy of it, and you seem disinclined to change that.
Ah, that reminds me.
Propose changing Fusil's secondary sphere to Arrogance.
"Everyone who's respect I care about respects me. Why should I care about the respect of petty Gods?"Oh now that's just too funny. Cim, or Azem, petty?
Hells, I'm fairly sure Grauel doesn't like you either. And as for the question, I think your pride, since you've demanded respect in the past, and get pissy about 'insults'.
I respect your combat ability. I respect your determination. I respect little else about you, since little else is worthy of it, and you seem disinclined to change that.
Ah, that reminds me.
Propose changing Fusil's secondary sphere to Arrogance.
"Everyone who's respect I care about respects me. Why should I care about the respect of petty Gods?"Oh now that's just too funny. Cim, or Azem, petty?
Hells, I'm fairly sure Grauel doesn't like you either. And as for the question, I think your pride, since you've demanded respect in the past, and get pissy about 'insults'.
I respect your combat ability. I respect your determination. I respect little else about you, since little else is worthy of it, and you seem disinclined to change that.
Ah, that reminds me.
Propose changing Fusil's secondary sphere to Arrogance.
Support!"Everyone who's respect I care about respects me. Why should I care about the respect of petty Gods?"Oh now that's just too funny. Cim, or Azem, petty?
Hells, I'm fairly sure Grauel doesn't like you either. And as for the question, I think your pride, since you've demanded respect in the past, and get pissy about 'insults'.
I respect your combat ability. I respect your determination. I respect little else about you, since little else is worthy of it, and you seem disinclined to change that.
Ah, that reminds me.
Propose changing Fusil's secondary sphere to Arrogance.
Now to find out that there is a Null named Darrruauauaauth and it takes offence to that. Now that would be hillarious.
Bugger it. Oppose adding Arrogance to Fusil's sphere.
Propose changing Fusil's name to Fusil the ArrogantBastard.
How convenient, that Null keep a list of all of their names and leave it for anyone to find.
Propose that Fusil be sealed away for a tick any time he threatens a god with violence to them, their followers, their creations, their allies, and so on and so forth.
If Gods gained power from their own characteristics, Yaos wouldn't have died so many times from being over-ambitious. It might even weaken his primary sphere, which would be hilarious.
(Time to finally do it!)
I pull out a Smith & Wesson Model 29 revolver and spin the chamber around. I then put the gun to Fortuna's head.
"I know what you're thinking. "Did I fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk?"
((uh... I'm safe from what is technically mortal weaponry, yes? Even if wielded by a god?))(Nope.)
((Ah well, if I die I can either reincarnate or come back as something else.((uh... I'm safe from what is technically mortal weaponry, yes? Even if wielded by a god?))(Nope.)
(Godly reincarnation is an untested theory. He hasn't actually shot you or anything so you could easily move out of the way if you wanted to.)((Ah well, if I die I can either reincarnate or come back as something else.((uh... I'm safe from what is technically mortal weaponry, yes? Even if wielded by a god?))(Nope.)
Maybe Fusil could shoot Tycho instead? :P it would be a real shame if he died.))
Propose that Fusil be sealed away for a tick any time he threatens a god with violence to them, their followers, their creations, their allies, and so on and so forth.Support.
If Gods gained power from their own characteristics, Yaos wouldn't have died so many times from being over-ambitious. It might even weaken his primary sphere, which would be hilarious.
(Time to finally do it!)
I pull out a Smith & Wesson Model 29 revolver and spin the chamber around. I then put the gun to Fortuna's head.
"I know what you're thinking. "Did I fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk?"
I always feel lucky, Fusil.
Twirls the rings on his fingers
Mostly anyways. I mean, I am the incarnation of luck.
((uh... I'm safe from what is technically mortal weaponry, yes? Even if wielded by a god?))
Oppose Fusil's proposal of throwing Darruth into the sun
Oppose Darruth's proposal to seal away Fusil for a tick every time he makes a threat
And if it worked in that way, Azem would have been immensely powerful to the point of ruling the entire Bubble while he had his sphere of Greed.
And you could try. I doubt your ability to succeed in that.
And the subsequent trial and likely execution, considering you've attacked gods on multiple occasions and broke Council Law, would be quite entertaining.
Support.
Propose that Fusil be sealed away for a tick any time he threatens a god with violence to them, their followers, their creations, their allies, and so on and so forth.Support.
Propose that Fusil be sealed away for a tick any time he threatens a god with violence to them, their followers, their creations, their allies, and so on and so forth."Support."
Propose that Fusil be sealed away for a tick any time he threatens a god with violence to them, their followers, their creations, their allies, and so on and so forth.I definitely support this.
Propose that Fusil be sealed away for a tick any time he threatens a god with violence to them, their followers, their creations, their allies, and so on and so forth."Support. Most definitely support.
If Gods gained power from their own characteristics, Yaos wouldn't have died so many times from being over-ambitious. It might even weaken his primary sphere, which would be hilarious.
"All three of you are on my list now! You will all blow up. In the order you voted! I am going to explode you all!""You bark a lot, but can you bite?"
"All three of you are on my list now! You will all blow up. In the order you voted! I am going to explode you all!""You bark a lot, but can you bite?"
"Are you asking me to kill you? I could always move you up to first place, if that is the case."Cim changes its form to that of a silver-haired wolf, and begins loudly barking and howling at Fusil. Once it has made its point, Cim changes back to its primary form.
"All three of you are on my list now! You will all blow up. In the order you voted! I am going to explode you all!"Look at me, I'm Fusil!
Propose that Fusil be sealed away for a tick any time he threatens a god with violence to them, their followers, their creations, their allies, and so on and so forth.Support
If Gods gained power from their own characteristics, Yaos wouldn't have died so many times from being over-ambitious. It might even weaken his primary sphere, which would be hilarious.
Propose that Fusil be sealed away for a tick any time he threatens a god with violence to them, their followers, their creations, their allies, and so on and so forth.Support
If Gods gained power from their own characteristics, Yaos wouldn't have died so many times from being over-ambitious. It might even weaken his primary sphere, which would be hilarious.
SupportPropose that Fusil be sealed away for a tick any time he threatens a god with violence to them, their followers, their creations, their allies, and so on and so forth.Support
If Gods gained power from their own characteristics, Yaos wouldn't have died so many times from being over-ambitious. It might even weaken his primary sphere, which would be hilarious.
Support
SupportSupportPropose that Fusil be sealed away for a tick any time he threatens a god with violence to them, their followers, their creations, their allies, and so on and so forth.Support
If Gods gained power from their own characteristics, Yaos wouldn't have died so many times from being over-ambitious. It might even weaken his primary sphere, which would be hilarious.
Support
Not a tyrant anymore, seems like.
So, if he attacks any of us, we seal him away permanently, right?
Propose permanent sealing of Fusil if he attacks anyone who supported the proposal to seal him for threatening him (and the attack is not in response to an attack on their part) within the next six ticks.
Not a tyrant anymore, seems like.
So, if he attacks any of us, we seal him away permanently, right?
Propose permanent sealing of Fusil if he attacks anyone who supported the proposal to seal him for threatening him (and the attack is not in response to an attack on their part) within the next six ticks.
Not a tyrant anymore, seems like.
So, if he attacks any of us, we seal him away permanently, right?
Propose permanent sealing of Fusil if he attacks anyone who supported the proposal to seal him for threatening him (and the attack is not in response to an attack on their part) within the next six ticks.
"Alright, that is it. Do you realize how stupid you are being? I am much more powerful then you. You just spent a good deal of essence. I can kill you for less then I spend on random experiments. And now you are making me want to kill you. Now, do you have any reason for me not to just have Tykki shoot you?"
Not a tyrant anymore, seems like.Support.
So, if he attacks any of us, we seal him away permanently, right?
Propose permanent sealing of Fusil if he attacks anyone who supported the proposal to seal him for threatening him (and the attack is not in response to an attack on their part) within the next six ticks.
A goal so worthy that The Light returned back to our company! What am I to disagree? Support.SupportSupportPropose that Fusil be sealed away for a tick any time he threatens a god with violence to them, their followers, their creations, their allies, and so on and so forth.Support
If Gods gained power from their own characteristics, Yaos wouldn't have died so many times from being over-ambitious. It might even weaken his primary sphere, which would be hilarious.
Support
Create Lightgems of Musk, gems of light that emit musk scent, and grant it to the friendly gods as a presentMalakath's Lightgem of Musk is returned to The Light.
Not a tyrant anymore, seems like.
So, if he attacks any of us, we seal him away permanently, right?
Propose permanent sealing of Fusil if he attacks anyone who supported the proposal to seal him for threatening him (and the attack is not in response to an attack on their part) within the next six ticks.
"Alright, that is it. Do you realize how stupid you are being? I am much more powerful then you. You just spent a good deal of essence. I can kill you for less then I spend on random experiments. And now you are making me want to kill you. Now, do you have any reason for me not to just have Tykki shoot you?"
Do you realize how little I care?
You can try to kill me. And then you'll get beaten down by the Council, which has already shown it's willingness to deal with you.
So call me stupid if you like, because I don't bow down to your whims. I could care less.
Oh, and for a reason...let's see...because it will result in your imminent execution and/or paradoxing by the Council, in all likelihood?
We're dealing with a bully. Trying to bully us into not doing so is backfiring on you. Badly.
"Lawmode voting regarding murder and assaults can be resolved in just 1 Tick. Hypothetically speaking, if enough gods decide to vote to permakill Fusil he'll be dead before he even has time to react. This can be done even if Fusil hasn't been imprisoned beforehand. Since this is a council-enforced permakill, it's highly unlikely he'll be able to revive without Void assistance."
So... does his big rant count as one threat, or many?(Yeah, I snipped it once I saw I messed up but I guess I wasn't fast enough. It's fixed now.)
((wtf with the editing man :P))
(Eh, your back on the list. You where doing so good up to then.)(Hey, someone's got to do Cim's job of pointing out how the law works and Cim certainly isn't doing it. It's my duty as a member of the Council!)
"The council has no power over me. Even if every God in existence tried to kill me at once, I would be easily able to withstand it and return the favor a thousand times over. If you give me a reason to, I would love to try."(You're forgetting that trying to do so would likely end the plot. Remember that plot armour is a thing.)
(You're forgetting that trying to do so would likely end the plot. Remember that plot armour is a thing.)
"It's a shame your angels are probably as deluded and suicidal as you Fusil."
Neron tasks the greatest artists of the bubble with painting a picture of a tiny ranting Fusil being beat up by the other gods.
"This is just amazing, please continue oh great Threat-Maker."
Neron tasks the greatest artists of the bubble with painting a picture of a tiny ranting Fusil being beat up by the other gods.
"This is just amazing, please continue oh great Threat-Maker."
Has he become petty enough to attack anyone's followers, yet? Anyone who wishes for my aid need only ask. And provide the Essence for the Protection, since I'm rather low."At the risk of earning your ire again, my followers have been attacked."
Tick 100: Q: "How do gods celebrate?""Before this attack, there were 1.1 million inhabitants. After the attack, only 200k survivors remained."
Many Humans, Mountwyrms, Luminee, Wood Elves, Night Elves, and Odolhirum dwellers have been killed off!
Propose we toss Fusil`s angels into the void if he attacks another god."It's a shame your angels are probably as deluded and suicidal as you Fusil."
"Each one of my Angels is stronger then all of your combined. Even your false-sapheria does not stand a chance against them."
Propose we toss Fusil`s angels into the void if he attacks another god."It's a shame your angels are probably as deluded and suicidal as you Fusil."
"Each one of my Angels is stronger then all of your combined. Even your false-sapheria does not stand a chance against them."
Propose we toss Fusil`s angels into the void if he attacks another god.
"Would sealing them away instead of tossing them into the void be a better proposal?"QuotePropose we toss Fusil`s angels into the void if he attacks another god.
It is foolish to punish somone for what their boss did. Oppose.
"Ah, the insecurities of the mad tyrant."
Not a tyrant anymore, seems like."Never a tyrant. Only ever an idiot who is given power and knowledge, but who can't use it wisely."
Propose we toss Fusil`s angels into the void if he attacks another god."It's a shame your angels are probably as deluded and suicidal as you Fusil."
"Each one of my Angels is stronger then all of your combined. Even your false-sapheria does not stand a chance against them."
"I should kill you on principle just for suggesting that!"
Propose that a god's ability to communicate while imprisoned is limited to open communication. Can't have them telling the Void to break them out, can we?
Propose that a god's ability to communicate while imprisoned is limited to open communication. Can't have them telling the Void to break them out, can we?
Propose that a god's ability to communicate while imprisoned is limited to open communication. Can't have them telling the Void to break them out, can we?
"Oppose. We all know I am the only one who anyone will ever attempt to imprison."
Propose that a god's ability to communicate while imprisoned is limited to open communication. Can't have them telling the Void to break them out, can we?
"Oppose. We all know I am the only one who anyone will ever attempt to imprison."
Is that because you're the most abrasive being ever?
Propose that a god's ability to communicate while imprisoned is limited to open communication. Can't have them telling the Void to break them out, can we?
"Oppose. We all know I am the only one who anyone will ever attempt to imprison."
Is that because you're the most abrasive being ever?
"It is because the weak are jealous of my strength and power, and fear what I can do to them."
Propose that a god's ability to communicate while imprisoned is limited to open communication. Can't have them telling the Void to break them out, can we?
"Oppose. We all know I am the only one who anyone will ever attempt to imprison."
Is that because you're the most abrasive being ever?
"It is because the weak are jealous of my strength and power, and fear what I can do to them."
You always threaten some Russian Roulette with me, and have always failed to deliver.
Propose that a god's ability to communicate while imprisoned is limited to open communication. Can't have them telling the Void to break them out, can we?
"Oppose. We all know I am the only one who anyone will ever attempt to imprison."
Is that because you're the most abrasive being ever?
"It is because the weak are jealous of my strength and power, and fear what I can do to them."
You always threaten some Russian Roulette with me, and have always failed to deliver.
"Do you want to play then? I still don't think you understand the rules. To clarify, I take this gun known as a revolver and shoot you in the head until you die. Would you prefer I delivered?"
Melyssa reads a book about the origin and methods of torture, written before she appeared.
I Propose that we send some spies to see if the Merfolk emperor is up to any good.Quote"I have opened the BAKERY OF PAIN! Want a loaf?""That sounds truly delicious, I'll take two dozen. What are they made of?"Quote"How do the Flagellants get to experience so much pain?""The Flagellants are made to experience pain, thus they are very creative in finding new methods of doing so."
Melyssa grants the man the ability to be very creative when thinking about ways of torture.Quote"I think this man is an infiltrator against our Glorious Resistance. Any advice?""Before I can help you with this, what are you resisting. I wish to know that, for I do not want to offend any gods."
Melyssa uses 13E to propagate the Flagellants
Fusil has fired a single shot into Fortuna's finger. The gun misfires, damaging Fusil for 2E!
Azem bursts out laughing.
"Did you see that? Priceless."
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Tykki points at Cim."What is that supposed to mean, Tykki? Please elaborate."
"You will pay dearly for the Lich's crimes."
Fusil has fired a single shot into Fortuna's finger. The gun misfires, damaging Fusil for 2E!
Tykki points at Cim."What is that supposed to mean, Tykki? Please elaborate."
"You will pay dearly for the Lich's crimes."
In front of each of my temples I commission a pair of statues, one of Fusil with a gun exploding in his face, and one of Kit laying on top of a passed out Tykki.
"What I don't understand is why I should be responsible for the Lich. Tykki has many reasons to hate me, but why pick one that doesn't make sense?"
"She reaaaally hates your Lich. Not quite sure why.""My Lich? Mark these words: I have nothing to do with the Lich. If Tykki decides to attack me or any of my assets, I will give no quarter in defending myself. Tykki, do not anger me. You have been warned."
"She reaaaally hates your Lich. Not quite sure why.""My Lich? Mark these words: I have nothing to do with the Lich. If Tykki decides to attack me or any of my assets, I will give no quarter in defending myself. Tykki, do not anger me. You have been warned."
"I am being defensive because this is a death threat that might actually carry some meaning, unlike yours. I have never said anything about controlling everything. I say this again. I have nothing to do with the Lich. And no, I did not suddenly invent time travel to cause that explosion when I didn't. About having no chance against her, you chose your words poorly."
"I would love to see Tykki try to take on Cim. Just as long as Fusil is willing to clean up what's left of Tykki afterwards."
Listen to prayers and check up on my races, were they attacked by the Merfolk?
"Cim was almost killed by a single attack from a jellyroll. Extensive tests show that Tykki is more powerful then billions upon billions of jellyrolls. She would beat Cim easily!"Propose That we contact a jellyroll being from the void, and that we let it battle with Tykki.
"That's true. Also, why aren't you tipping your((It's supposed to be a sombrero, not a fedora. Am I that bad an artist?))fedorafunny hat to thisM'ladymother of misery? You might be an optimist, but you are supposed to have some manners."
((It's supposed to be a sombrero, not a fedora. Am I that bad an artist?))
((It's supposed to be a sombrero, not a fedora. Am I that bad an artist?))
(This is the internet. Any hat is either a tophat or a fedora.)
I peek my head from behind a shadow, watching intently on what interesting things are happening.
"Mmm, hello? You're an interesting bunch, may I join?"
Raptil:
"I wish for gills for hunting the powerful fishes."
"Is it a good idea to hunt by dropping rocks on sleeping creatures?"
"What do you think of vultures?"
The Falciri are thriving and making a fair profit from selling the products of their hunting. They associate fairly well with the followers of KI'Tork.
The Ikakus say Malakath couldn't use chi because she blocked it. The technique created, they say, turns chi into slightly less chi, limiting its use to dramatic events. They say chi probably always existed and they know they use it.I give the Ikakus increased common sense because I don't like obtuse answers. Are they saying that chi is magic? That chi is based on the soul? If so, does that mean they pray more to me rather than Joha as I used to think?
"I, Muighoseph'aalaunw, need the assistance of at least one of you. You will be compensated generously should you perform well."What do you want?
The God Engines seem not to be too effective on either Tykki or Kit.
Quote"I, Muighoseph'aalaunw, need the assistance of at least one of you. You will be compensated generously should you perform well."What do you want?
"Great now we're all together in a Pantheon! Neron, Meylessa, What do you think we should call ourselves? The Mighty Explosion Of Frozen Satisfying Pain? Of The Holy Meofisp for short is my suggestion.""The Holy Meofisp sounds like some kind of spirit to me, for an odd reason. I like the name though."
"I propose we declare Fusil honorary God of Jestering"
"I propose we declare Fusil honorary God of Jestering"
"I propose we declare Fusil honorary God of Jestering"
"I propose we declare Fusil honorary God of Jestering"
If someone is going to answer it in secret and do what it wants, would it not be better if the council knows its goals?"Don't talk to it! Just let its orbit take it far away from us. Do not deal with it. Do not even think about it."Quote"I, Muighoseph'aalaunw, need the assistance of at least one of you. You will be compensated generously should you perform well."What do you want?
"Attempting? Attempting? Fusil, we're not attempting to do anything. We are locking you up."I propose we declare Fusil honorary God of Jestering"
"Are you all attempting to evoke my wrath? Is this an active effort to anger me?"
"I propose we declare Fusil honorary God of Jestering"Support
If someone is going to answer it in secret and do what it wants, would it not be better if the council knows its goals?"Don't talk to it! Just let its orbit take it far away from us. Do not deal with it. Do not even think about it."Quote"I, Muighoseph'aalaunw, need the assistance of at least one of you. You will be compensated generously should you perform well."What do you want?
"Attempting? Attempting? Fusil, we're not attempting to do anything. We are locking you up."I propose we declare Fusil honorary God of Jestering"
"Are you all attempting to evoke my wrath? Is this an active effort to anger me?"
I Support 103.09 and 103.10
Goodbye, Fusil. It's been Hell knowing you."
Support 104.00"I propose we declare Fusil honorary God of Jestering"Support
Send a message to my people,"What position in this world do you want? Do you want to lead it or serve it? Also I may take up the harvest of your souls and make up a place for you after death""Rather than having to spend Essence on a soul phylactery, I could just eat them for you and hold them within myself. We're of the same pantheon so you know you can trust me not to use them or negatively affect them. Alternatively, I've created my own personal heaven where you can keep them until you create a better place."
Create a holding place for the Sewa spirits
(do the guardians have spirits? If so put their spirits in the same holding place)
((I am not spending essence on making a heaven but I will spend essence on making a small holding space for their souls after death, kinda like a sustained spiritual stasis until I teraform that other planet and put them there))
"The Holy Meofisp sounds good to me too.""Great now we're all together in a Pantheon! Neron, Meylessa, What do you think we should call ourselves? The Mighty Explosion Of Frozen Satisfying Pain? Of The Holy Meofisp for short is my suggestion.""The Holy Meofisp sounds like some kind of spirit to me, for an odd reason. I like the name though."
"I propose we declare Fusil honorary God of Jestering"Support
(Mocking voice)"Aww, cute! It thinks it can get away with murder. It has also threatened me again, which means more time locked up." :PIf someone is going to answer it in secret and do what it wants, would it not be better if the council knows its goals?"Don't talk to it! Just let its orbit take it far away from us. Do not deal with it. Do not even think about it."Quote"I, Muighoseph'aalaunw, need the assistance of at least one of you. You will be compensated generously should you perform well."What do you want?
"It should be easy enough to see from the book I and Serac have. If, for example, it is the Null of kicks and slaps and we see an increased amount of kicking and slapping, it is likely he is the culprit."
Look up Muighoseph'aalaunw in the book, publicly posting it because I see no reason for anyone not to know."Attempting? Attempting? Fusil, we're not attempting to do anything. We are locking you up."I propose we declare Fusil honorary God of Jestering"
"Are you all attempting to evoke my wrath? Is this an active effort to anger me?"
I Support 103.09 and 103.10
Goodbye, Fusil. It's been Hell knowing you."
Support 104.00"I propose we declare Fusil honorary God of Jestering"Support
"You are an absolute idiot. You do realize that even if those passed, I would be free to kill you? They would not punish me for the non-crimes I have already committed. And I am sure I can find away around such poorly worded proposals and kill you all with little issue."
(Mocking voice)"Aww, cute! It thinks it can get away with murder. It has also threatened me again, which means more time locked up." :P"Actually no. Fusil would've been imprisoned for the threats he made that Tick only if the proposal immediately passed. Assuming the proposal passes, he won't automatically be imprisoned for the threats he made prior to the proposal passing unless he's manually ordain him for them."
104.01: Contact a jelly roll being from the Void and have it battle Tykki"Fusil, I will support this proposal if you feel that Tykki will reign victorious over the jelly roll being. I won't support it if you think otherwise."
"Aside from what's going on now, I'd say that your threats and your general attitude has worked against you, Fusil. Looking through the records, I can see that you originally intended to stay on the sidelines and simply profit off the conflict of others - a wise goal. However, when you started acting against other gods the other gods started moving away from your sphere."
"Many gods would've devoted more of their resources to making and using weapons rather than defences/magic/chi/something else if they didn't always expect you to attack them as they do now. I think that after a few tens of Ticks of "good behaviour" we might learn to trust you again and then we'll start using weapons more."
Fusil: The God Engines have begun blasting at Kit, who can barely dodge most of the shots.
Name: Muighoseph'aalaunw
Function: Destroyer of Light
Alignment: Luminant
Age/Caste: Unknown Ocular: Probably Mesal
Tendency: Unknown, possibly Creative
Description: Little is known of Muighoseph'aalaunw, Destroyer of Light, but it seems that rather than destroying light, It destroys through light. Cults of It are rare and typically emphasize a different Thing, so even they are of little help. Muighoseph'aalaunw does seem to be actively interested in stabilizing Bubbles given their apparent tendency to wither away with time. Bubbles contacted by Muighoseph'aalaunw do seem to remain stable for longer, so this may not be entirely false.
I look at the God Engines in the DBP. What actually are they and why are they so patently inferior to a common house cat?
"Why has the world not frozen yet?""Ask the other gods."
"Behold the glory of the Northern Crown!"
"Is it Neronmas yet?"
"Why has the world not frozen yet?""Ask the other gods."
"Behold the glory of the Northern Crown!"
"Is it Neronmas yet?"
"You are incredibly insulting to poor Kit. You do realize this 'common housecat' can dodge bullets right?"
"You heard that? GET OUT OF MY HEAD! GET OUT OF MY HEAD!""So the common house cat gained skills after effortlessly dodging your minions for so long. So what? It's still a common house cat."
I give common sense to all races whose creators are dead, sealed, or are in safe stasis.Oppose.
"So the common house cat gained skills after effortlessly dodging your minions for so long. So what?"((This is actually really close to the truth...))
I give common sense to all races whose creators are dead, sealed, or are in safe stasis.Oppose.
Also, create some burnt chicken in front of the emperor of Keshan. Then watch it closely."So the common house cat gained skills after effortlessly dodging your minions for so long. So what?"((This is actually really close to the truth...))
Oppose."There had better be a good reason for this, Atropos."
"Well, if a mortal were to, for example, find out about a large Void summoning ceremony, they might pray to their god about the event or they might use their enhanced common-sense to warn the entire Council of the Bubble-threatening event, as they rightly should. Aside from that, it would be rather interesting to see what mortals pray to the Council for. Besides, how would you know if it's a pointless activity when it's never even been done before?"
KI'Tork listens to Prayers.
"Hey,Muighoseph'aalaunw! What is it you need? I'd be glad to help as long as it's not destructive towards the Bubble, I'm fine with obnoxiousness though."
Raptil:
"Aww."
Raptil:
...
"We bought some floatstone, so it's not too hard to drop boulders on them"
"Fusil, You Threaten an Entire Pantheon with only 16 Essence? What a Hollow Gesture! I thought you were the God of Weapons, Not Petty Insults!"
"Fusil, You Threaten an Entire Pantheon with only 16 Essence? What a Hollow Gesture! I thought you were the God of Weapons, Not Petty Insults!"
"Do you really think that how much essence I have is the issue? I am far more powerful then your entire pantheon in all ways. Tykki can nuke you for free, I could have you turned into a pile of ash in seconds."
"Exactly how are you more powerful than the Entire Holy Meofisp? Age? Spheres? Please Fusil, Enlighten Me, I'm dying to hear your half-hearted excuse for your arrogance."
"Really, Stirk? Really?" (Response to PM)
"KI'Tork, are you insane? This Void being is a Luminal - the one Void faction whose plans absolutely rely on the destruction of our Bubble. Why would you even consider helping them?"
"I'm Not insane, And he seemed Trustworthy... I didn't mean to do anything wrong."
"....Who is Stirk? And what is a PM?"(Fixed. Sorry. Anything in parentheses is OOC.)
"My Mother was killed by Gluttonous Void Terrorists! And why would I walk when I can fly?""I sympathise with your tragedy. Hopefully she's in a better place. That's actually an excellent idea. Don't just walk away - fly away. Just don't make any deals with it, ok?" *Malakath pinches KI'Tork's cheek*
(Fixed. Sorry. Anything in parentheses is OOC.)
"Really, Fusil? Really?" (Response to PM)
"That's probably because he is accusing you of something.""Really, Fusil? Really?" (Response to PM)
"What do you mean 'really'? It sounds like you are accusing me of something?"
"That's probably because he is accusing you of something.""Really, Fusil? Really?" (Response to PM)
"What do you mean 'really'? It sounds like you are accusing me of something?"
"Malakath, Why did you pinch my cheek? And no she isn't in a better place, The Bubble I was born in was destroyed by the Aforementioned Terrorists, And why can't we just see whether Muighoseph'aalaunw intends to destroy us? Stop Stereotyping Void Entities."
"Stop Stereotyping Void Entities.""I'm actually basing my guess on this particular Void being's faction rather than what he is. For example, it's appropriate to think that someone in the "We Hate Jelly Rolls Political Party" hates jelly rolls."
"Excellent, my helpful assistant. Here is your reward. Now, I seek someone's aid in constructing a perfect cube. You may do so as well, Atropos."
"KI'Tork, eager as always, I see. You specifically may help by dropping a pebble on the left side of a certain mage's desk. The compensation for this will be 1E, less than for the other task."
Fusil and Malakath have been caught attempting to seal Kli away! Considering what tends to happen to the sealed away, an attempted assault/murder trial may be in order. Kli remains unsealed for now.
This update's constellations are the Lance and Lady.
Ice Golem:"Why would you want to do that?"
"Can Anything Raise The Freezing Temperature Of Water?"
"We Have Walled In Your Northern Crown To Protect It From Winds."
Fusil and Malakath have been caught attempting to seal Kli away! Considering what tends to happen to the sealed away, an attempted assault/murder trial may be in order. Kli remains unsealed for now.
Kli has been sealed away in halves.Godly facetentacle.
Council records: Too vagueOnly Tick updates. ::)
"KI'Tork, eager as always, I see. You specifically may help by dropping a pebble on the left side of a certain mage's desk. The compensation for this will be 1E, less than for the other task."Butterfly effect: I talk with the mage about magic and its relationship to the soul before he gets to his desk. This should mess up whatever butterfly effect the Null was hoping to enact.
"Can we have blue blood like shellfish too?""Just ask one of my priests to do it. Cosmetic changes to blood are very easy to do."
"I want to befriend a blood-drinker with shiny dust!"
Council:I magically un-collapse the wall.
"Twenty divines! My wall collapsed!"
"Can you pass a law against doing anything with mortals?"
Fusil and Malakath have been caught attempting to seal Kli away! Considering what tends to happen to the sealed away, an attempted assault/murder trial may be in order. Kli remains unsealed for now.What do you mean what happens to the sealed-away? They just stay sealed away, don't they?
"Why are you trying to seal him, Malakath? That is my job. I have special sealing things made to keep them from becoming Void monsters.""Because I don't trust you, Fusil. For all I know, you're implanting hidden kill-switches or something in the gods you seal. As for becoming a Void monster, I am just as adept at preventing that from happening as you, possibly even more so depending on whether you use Void knowledge/magic or not."
"Because I don't trust you, Fusil. For all I know, you're implanting hidden kill-switches or something in the gods you seal. As for becoming a Void monster, I am just as adept at preventing that from happening as you, possibly even more so depending on whether you use Void knowledge/magic or not."
(I don't feel like making more work for the GM, so if I'm understanding right, I'll probably oppose.)
"We don't even know what state the gods under your care are in. For all we know you've drained them to 1E and kept them there, ensuring they never awaken. The fact that you seem to hoard information and never share it only further proves your untrustworthiness."
105.00: Support.
"We. Do. Not. Trust. You. You. Idiotic. Worm. We have absolutely no reason to."
"Can you pass a law against doing anything with mortals?"(aside)"See what you gods have done?"
((I feel we should give him a break for now, since he has a week to catch up on, but if he doesn't mind when things slow down, then I'd support it.))Quote"Can you pass a law against doing anything with mortals?"(aside)"See what you gods have done?"
(To mortal)"Are you sure you'd even want that? We'd be cutting you off from all good things that we do for you, as well as the bad. It would also leave us husks of our former selves because everything we have ever done in this bubble influenced mortals, and if we could not do that, we could do nothing."
Oppose killing K'I'Tork.
"Anyone else interpreting that as a threat?
"If we where to go by your moronic sense of threats, you would be able to imprison me for whatever slight you desire. I propose we send Kaybar into the sun, too. And keep him there this time."
"Tykki, quickly! Please use a nailgun and secure the pebble to that desk permanently! It seems that idiot Ki'tork has made a deal with the Null already. I propose we punish him by throwing him into the sun and keeping him there forever."Oppose both.
"I oppose your foolishness. I think if you threaten someone, it should be counted as a threat, and now that our proposal has passed, you might want to watch your mouth.((I feel we should give him a break for now, since he has a week to catch up on, but if he doesn't mind when things slow down, then I'd support it.))Quote"Can you pass a law against doing anything with mortals?"(aside)"See what you gods have done?"
(To mortal)"Are you sure you'd even want that? We'd be cutting you off from all good things that we do for you, as well as the bad. It would also leave us husks of our former selves because everything we have ever done in this bubble influenced mortals, and if we could not do that, we could do nothing."
Oppose killing K'I'Tork.
"Anyone else interpreting that as a threat?
"If we where to go by your moronic sense of threats, you would be able to imprison me for whatever slight you desire. I propose we send Kaybar into the sun, too. And keep him there this time."
"I oppose your foolishness. I think if you threaten someone, it should be counted as a threat, and now that our proposal has passed, you might want to watch your mouth.((I feel we should give him a break for now, since he has a week to catch up on, but if he doesn't mind when things slow down, then I'd support it.))Quote"Can you pass a law against doing anything with mortals?"(aside)"See what you gods have done?"
(To mortal)"Are you sure you'd even want that? We'd be cutting you off from all good things that we do for you, as well as the bad. It would also leave us husks of our former selves because everything we have ever done in this bubble influenced mortals, and if we could not do that, we could do nothing."
Oppose killing K'I'Tork.
"Anyone else interpreting that as a threat?
"If we where to go by your moronic sense of threats, you would be able to imprison me for whatever slight you desire. I propose we send Kaybar into the sun, too. And keep him there this time."
I think that if someone feels threatened by your actions, it is legally a threat.
K'I'Tork, do you feel threatened?"
"For the good of the children I propose we toss Fusil into the sun.""I oppose your foolishness. I think if you threaten someone, it should be counted as a threat, and now that our proposal has passed, you might want to watch your mouth.((I feel we should give him a break for now, since he has a week to catch up on, but if he doesn't mind when things slow down, then I'd support it.))Quote"Can you pass a law against doing anything with mortals?"(aside)"See what you gods have done?"
(To mortal)"Are you sure you'd even want that? We'd be cutting you off from all good things that we do for you, as well as the bad. It would also leave us husks of our former selves because everything we have ever done in this bubble influenced mortals, and if we could not do that, we could do nothing."
Oppose killing K'I'Tork.
"Anyone else interpreting that as a threat?
"If we where to go by your moronic sense of threats, you would be able to imprison me for whatever slight you desire. I propose we send Kaybar into the sun, too. And keep him there this time."
I think that if someone feels threatened by your actions, it is legally a threat.
K'I'Tork, do you feel threatened?"
"That is absurd. A coward like you would feel threatened by anything. The beliefs of a pathetic fraidykit like you has no bearing on my non-imprisonment. I do hope the other Gods go along with my justified proposal to send you into the sun, for the good of the children."
"For the good of the children I propose we toss Fusil into the sun."Support!
"Hilarious. Note that I asked how K'I'Tork felt, not myself. If you want to know my feeling right now, I'm mildly annoyed. Happy?
I'd like an explanation of how throwing me into the sun is going to help children."Quote"For the good of the children I propose we toss Fusil into the sun."Support!
"I now feel happy."
:D"I'm going to miss your amusing arguments when someone eventually offs you.""Hilarious. Note that I asked how K'I'Tork felt, not myself. If you want to know my feeling right now, I'm mildly annoyed. Happy?
I'd like an explanation of how throwing me into the sun is going to help children."Quote"For the good of the children I propose we toss Fusil into the sun."Support!
"I now feel happy."
"You see, by throwing you into the sun we give it energy. You will radiate all your energy into the sun, which will in turn go to the planet. There it will feed the plants incredibly well, seeing as it has all your godly energy in it, making the most nutritious vegetables in existence. Children will then eat these vegetables and grow strong and smart. Therefore, for the children, we must throw you into the sun!"
"Oppose throwing me into the sun. Too much iron in the diet can cause a variety of problems, which would then be put into children. Do you want to give children liver failure, you monsters?"
"I`m not even sure how to respond to this...." ???"Hilarious. Note that I asked how K'I'Tork felt, not myself. If you want to know my feeling right now, I'm mildly annoyed. Happy?
I'd like an explanation of how throwing me into the sun is going to help children."Quote"For the good of the children I propose we toss Fusil into the sun."Support!
"I now feel happy."
"You see, by throwing you into the sun we give it energy. You will radiate all your energy into the sun, which will in turn go to the planet. There it will feed the plants incredibly well, seeing as it has all your godly energy in it, making the most nutritious vegetables in existence. Children will then eat these vegetables and grow strong and smart. Therefore, for the children, we must throw you into the sun!"
"Oppose throwing me into the sun. Too much iron in the diet can cause a variety of problems, which would then be put into children. Do you want to give children liver failure, you monsters?"
I propose Council laws work via the spirit of the law, not the letter of it. Thus, we can avoid Fusil's constant attempts at loopholing.Oppose. It works well as it does not and has for a long time. There's no need to change it just because of this single incident.
I propose Council laws work via the spirit of the law, not the letter of it. Thus, we can avoid Fusil's constant attempts at loopholing.Oppose. It works well as it does not and has for a long time. There's no need to change it just because of this single incident.
*chortles with glee*"Support. Arguing over technicalities is annoying."
Oh this will be fun.
I propose Council laws work via the spirit of the law, not the letter of it. Thus, we can avoid Fusil's constant attempts at loopholing.
Oppose anyone being thrown into sun
Oppose 104.1
Support 105.00
Wonder how/why 103.06 died
I propose Council laws work via the spirit of the law, not the letter of it. Thus, we can avoid Fusil's constant attempts at loopholing.
Oppose anyone being thrown into sun
Oppose 104.1
Support 105.00
Wonder how/why 103.06 died
Not their intention. The spirit of it, as seen by everyone.I propose Council laws work via the spirit of the law, not the letter of it. Thus, we can avoid Fusil's constant attempts at loopholing.
Oppose anyone being thrown into sun
Oppose 104.1
Support 105.00
Wonder how/why 103.06 died
Oppose
The fault is with those who word the proposals poorly, not with the system itself. I like to know exactly what a proposal is going to do when it passes. I don't want to have to guess at all the possible non specified intentions the person who proposed it might have.
The fault is with those who word the proposals poorly, not with the system itself. I like to know exactly what a proposal is going to do when it passes. I don't want to have to guess at all the possible non specified intentions the person who proposed it might have."Indeed. You made a very good point there Grauel. Then there's also the different interpretations of the spirit of the laws. In this case, my interpretation is to stop Fusil from bullying everyone around into doing what he wants. His proposed punishment against KI'Tork for his actions are, to me, justifiable, and it's not just petty bullying."
"I am sure Malakath would not mind greater ability with souls.""Greater ability with souls? I am a goddess. No mortal could ever hope to match even a fraction of my power. I can freely create or destroy whatever I see fit. I hold power that to most it's considered unimaginable. What makes you think that I need or desire any more power, especially in regards to my own primary sphere?"
Send a message to the Sewa"I advise caution, Cyrix. If a material being stays more than a few days in an immaterial plane then they too will turn immaterial. (The reverse isn't true for some reason.) I recommend shuttling them in and out of your plane and the Corporeal Plane so they don't become immaterial and you don't have to spend Essence to revive them later. Additionally, I'm willing to help you build the planet (which should discount the price) if you help me with one of my projects, but let's discuss that privately."
"My people, I have created a world for your souls to reside. It will be one with out heartache or troubles, there you will sleep for a year and a thousand more, while you sleep I will create a haven for you. A new planet, one for farming and harvest, one free of wars and tyrant, one with which you may farm. Your excess crop grown there will be sent to the good people of these worlds to benefit them and give them reason not to tamper with your new world, you shall benefit all and live the lives you were made to live. You will have your own cities and you may run yourselves as you see fit but always remember a good harvest comes from a worship of your creator and a good soul all the same, believe in me and you shall be taken to this haven, disbelieve and you shall slumber for ten thousand eternities till your slumber has driven you void"
(was it one of the moons or a seperate planet? Ah whatever was open and small) Put a Sewa safe and pleasant atmosphere on the open small planet/moon(There are 61 available moons. 29 around the gas giant in the Keshan system, 30 around the GG in the Slythan system, and one moon for the planets Keshan and Slytha themselves.)
*chortles with glee*
Oh this will be fun.
I propose Council laws work via the spirit of the law, not the letter of it. Thus, we can avoid Fusil's constant attempts at loopholing.
Oppose anyone being thrown into sun
Oppose 104.1
Support 105.00
Wonder how/why 103.06 died
"Greater ability with souls? I am a goddess. No mortal could ever hope to match even a fraction of my power. I can freely create or destroy whatever I see fit. I hold power that to most it's considered unimaginable. What makes you think that I need or desire any more power, especially in regards to my own primary sphere?"
"Ah, but Fusil and Malakath, you know not which mage I meant. Are you yourselves currently in need of great power or control, perhaps? I am sure Malakath would not mind greater ability with souls and Fusil would probably be delighted to study a true Void weapon."
"Now, I seek someone's aid in constructing a perfect cube.""Council. This sentence tells us a lot of the thing's motives. Perfect geometrical shapes are Static, which means it wants Dynamic things in this Bubble to end, likely by destroying them. A very, very large portion of what we've created is Dynamic. Its Creative tendency points that this is a destroy-and-rebuild-in-my-image plan. In short, do not serve it if you want to live."
"As for you, Cim, I can provide your Bubble with security. You know well Bubbles are fragile and prone to destruction, and I can correct that. What I want is simply to maintain it until you can make the decision of destroying it on your own. I can also provide you personally with that which you have always sought.""Muighoseph'aalaunw. Tempting, but no. Allowing you to maintain the Bubble would make it and everything in it, including the asset you offer, dangerous and almost useless to us Gods. No deal. Besides, I can provide it to myself to myself, eventually."
"KI'Tork, eager as always, I see. You specifically may help by dropping a pebble on the left side of a certain mage's desk. The compensation for this will be 1E, less than for the other task.""KI'Tork. Moving a pebble invokes the butterfly effect, with possibly unexpected results. Don't do it."
"Ah, but Fusil and Malakath, you know not which mage I meant. Are you yourselves currently in need of great power or control, perhaps? I am sure Malakath would not mind greater ability with souls and Fusil would probably be delighted to study a true Void weapon.""Malakath and Fusil. As it happens, I could help you with both of those without taking anything you die without as payment. (Though I wouldn't help Fusil at this point.)"
"Malakath and Fusil. As it happens, I could help you with both of those without taking anything you die without as payment. (Though I wouldn't help Fusil at this point.)"
"Malakath and Fusil. As it happens, I could help you with both of those without taking anything you die without as payment. (Though I wouldn't help Fusil at this point.)""I'm interested. Perhaps we can discuss this privately?"
The God Engines seem to be animated statues loaded with various weapons.
"Excellent, my helpful assistant. Here is your reward. Now, I seek someone's aid in constructing a perfect cube. You may do so as well, Atropos."
Fusil and Malakath have been caught attempting to seal Kli away!
Kli has been sealed away in halves.
"First architect apears to have temporarily lost abilility to comunicate not in incoherent swearing. As such, for the duration of this afliction, I shall translate main points. My word bears no weight in the council, so I ask you deities to act upon them. Fusil... No, Malkath... No, void colaborators... I apologise. It apears even if I can understand him, First architect can not decide upon which of infuriating things he should act first. Only one idea came through, and that is to propose to check on Essense levels of Deities sealed off by Fusil."I support this proposal. I'm not quite sure why he's upset that I sealed Kli, though, unless it had to do with accidentally splitting him. Regardless, he should be fine once he awakens again. Please inform Khaziraad that though I'm unsure of my wrongdoing, I'm entirely willing to undo my actions if they were legitimately wrong."
"How can I torture people by swallowing swords?""Hmm, that sounds like a creative way of torture. You could make them swallow swords, but that sounds too easy. Maybe, if you could somehow make a hole in your upper body, you can stab them with the swords while they are still in your throat.''
"I have invented frog torture, where people choke on giant frogs!""That sounds wonderful! Here, I shall help you by making it more painful!"
What.
"Void Being, do Nulls have souls?"
"OK, Why do you wanna kill me? And what's the harm in putting a pebble on a Mage's Desk? Seriously you guys are way to paranoid. If you don't want me to then alright. Also why does nobody care about Proposal 104.00? And I'd really like to see Proposal 104.01, Unless Fusil is a Chicken! How am I supposed to Cook Ice-Cream inside of a Sun?"
"If I am an Idiot, I'm a Godly one with scores upon scores of Fanatics Following me. Either way, Seriously? How would banishing me to the Sun stop me from doing anything with the Void? Not that I am, Of course, To Prove it!"
KI'Tork replaces the Mage's desk with an Oversized Toaster.
"If I am an Idiot, I'm a Godly one with scores upon scores of Fanatics Following me. Either way, Seriously? How would banishing me to the Sun stop me from doing anything with the Void? Not that I am, Of course, To Prove it!"
KI'Tork replaces the Mage's desk with an Oversized Toaster.
"The sun was upgraded to harm Gods, of course. It would stop you from dealing with anything really. I know you dealt with the Void. I have more evidence than the fact the Null openly stated this, though I do not know what bizarre task it asked of you."
"Why do you hate me so much?""Because you, at the moment, are unknowingly collaborating with a Null in dooming us all. The few pieces of its plan already in place can yet be salvaged, but absolutely no God must perform any favour to it."
"Why do you hate me so much? I'd also like to see your "Evidence"."
"Talked to Whom?"
"Do you really think so, Malakath? Do you truly believe you can collect all the souls in your Bubble safely? Do you actually think you can neutralize your rivals in your current state? Mesal I may be, but I can provide that and inestimably more.""Yes, no and that has never been one of my goals, and yes but I wouldn't."
KI'Tork has replaced a mage's desk with an oversized bread surface cooking device. The building is on fire!I teleport everyone out of the building and then use water magic to put out the fire. (0E) I claim the souls of anyone who dies in the fire (assuming that anyone does) so I can more easily revive them later.
"Where are all the other races?""They are where they have always been. It is you who moved."
((Is it too late to join?))((Nope, we are always accepting new players, just fill out the character sheet and post it in the OOC thread.))
((Is it too late to join?))((Nope, we are always accepting new players, just fill out the character sheet and post it in the OOC thread.))
Terraform the atmosphere of a suitable small planet to be safe for sewa
((Da hell? Someone earlier said there were other planets. By suitable I meant one that won't burn up or freeze because of conditions))
(Those are moons. They are planet-ish sized)(Not really. Keshan and Slytha each have one Luna-sized moon orbiting them. The gas giants each have 30 moons orbiting them but they're all sub-Luna-sized.)
((Sorry, don't get so aggressive.))
IGNORE EARLIER ACTION
Build a slightly larger than luna sized planet that orbits a start in the Goldilocks zone and doesn't interfere with other planets orbits. This planet has no atmosphere but it's surface is made of farmable dirt.
((Sorry, don't get so aggressive.))(We're not being aggressive. Sorry if it looked like that.)
IGNORE EARLIER ACTION
Build a slightly larger than luna sized planet that orbits a start in the Goldilocks zone and doesn't interfere with other planets orbits. This planet has no atmosphere but it's surface is made of farmable dirt.
((Either))((Sorry, don't get so aggressive.))(We're not being aggressive. Sorry if it looked like that.)
IGNORE EARLIER ACTION
Build a slightly larger than luna sized planet that orbits a start in the Goldilocks zone and doesn't interfere with other planets orbits. This planet has no atmosphere but it's surface is made of farmable dirt.
(Goldilocks zone of which solar system - Keshan or Slythan? Nikjol doesn't have a goldilocks zone.)
(I would be very impressed if the Merfolk Emperor somehow invented space travel.)
If The Drrol can't reproduce KI'Tork gives it the ability to do Mitosis.
((Never mind, That's probably not a good idea.))
((Is it too late to join?))((Nope, we are always accepting new players, just fill out the character sheet and post it in the OOC thread.))((Done. Do I have to wait for a confirmation before I can start playing?))
My first action is to create my holy book. It is filled with dark secrets no mortal should know, giving access to corrupted powers, while slowly twisting the reader into an eldritch form
Edit: waiting for confirmation before doing that
((Is it too late to join?))((Nope, we are always accepting new players, just fill out the character sheet and post it in the OOC thread.))((Done. Do I have to wait for a confirmation before I can start playing?))
My first action is to create my holy book. It is filled with dark secrets no mortal should know, giving access to corrupted powers, while slowly twisting the reader into an eldritch form
Edit: waiting for confirmation before doing that
((Now that I'm officially in, I'll start by doing this^^^))
My book will also contain some minimal information on me, and preach that one can raise in power by knowing the right secrets. I create 44 copies of said book and distribute them on keshan and slytha, on random locations in civilized areas. I will also move to the gas giant orbiting slytha's star. I do not attempt to communicate with anyone for now.
"Welcome new god. As always, I suggest that you start by voting on one of the many new proposals. Speaking of which....
I propose we repeal 103.09.
Anyway, if you want followers, I suggest you make your own. You are much less likely to make someone angry. Some people can get very angry about strange Gods throwing dangerous things into their cities. Very angry."
The Vindico stationed outside the A-S-H cities are tasked with preventing the book from entering said cities.
"Stealing followers is no way to make friends."
(...What does "more Eldrich" mean?)
"Welcome new god. As always, I suggest that you start by voting on one of the many new proposals. Speaking of which....
I propose we repeal 103.09.
Anyway, if you want followers, I suggest you make your own. You are much less likely to make someone angry. Some people can get very angry about strange Gods throwing dangerous things into their cities. Very angry."
The Vindico stationed outside the A-S-H cities are tasked with preventing the book from entering said cities.
"Stealing followers is no way to make friends."
(...What does "more Eldrich" mean?)
((I meant eldritch, meaning alien or strange, and I made the books appear inside cities, if you want them out, you'll need to hunt for them))
Those books are meant to bring the attention of people interested in... Different things that you might offer, I would not fear about your followers if I was you, unless they were to be the kind of people who would seek dark and potentially lethal knowledge.
As for your offer on politics, I would rather wait before acting.
((what I'm saying is that theses books are supposed to bring the attention of mad cultist, not your everyday follower))
"Please ignore him. The mortals decide for themselves who among the Council they worship. This is the way it has always been, and anyone who accuses another god of 'stealing' followers is a hypocrite."
"Anyway, if you want followers, I suggest you make your own. You are much less likely to make someone angry. Some people can get very angry about strange Gods throwing dangerous things into their cities. Very angry."Veiled threats are still threats. Fusil has threatened a god and according to proposal 103.09 he will be imprisoned for 1 Tick for doing so.
I shall also encourage the Turonni not to read the book, and to report anyone that has purported to do so. They will then be investigated. Also, make Tycho read it, and tell me the contents...
"Stealing followers is no way to make friends."
"Humans are the only unaligned race. The Dwarves are aligned to me, and the Merfolk are aligned to at least four spheres."
Veiled threats are still threats. Fusil has threatened a god and according to proposal 103.09 he will be imprisoned for 1 Tick for doing so.
Nope!
I shall also encourage the Turonni not to read the book, and to report anyone that has purported to do so. They will then be investigated. Also, make Tycho read it, and tell me the contents..."Stealing followers is no way to make friends.""Humans are the only unaligned race. The Dwarves are aligned to me, and the Merfolk are aligned to at least four spheres."
Very good. I have no plan as of now to cause conflict, and I believe my book will get the attention of those I seek rather than your followers. Rest assured that my actions have a specific purpose and that none of those who remain peaceful will be harmed by their results
QuoteVeiled threats are still threats. Fusil has threatened a god and according to proposal 103.09 he will be imprisoned for 1 Tick for doing so.Nope!I shall also encourage the Turonni not to read the book, and to report anyone that has purported to do so. They will then be investigated. Also, make Tycho read it, and tell me the contents..."Stealing followers is no way to make friends.""Humans are the only unaligned race. The Dwarves are aligned to me, and the Merfolk are aligned to at least four spheres."
Very good. I have no plan as of now to cause conflict, and I believe my book will get the attention of those I seek rather than your followers. Rest assured that my actions have a specific purpose and that none of those who remain peaceful will be harmed by their results
"You know nothing of my followers. The books will stay out of my cities. You will not 'gather the attention' of anyone inside of them. You will not set one foot inside of them. And you will not send anything inside of them."
(Wait wasn't it just tick 107?)
QuoteVeiled threats are still threats. Fusil has threatened a god and according to proposal 103.09 he will be imprisoned for 1 Tick for doing so.Nope!I shall also encourage the Turonni not to read the book, and to report anyone that has purported to do so. They will then be investigated. Also, make Tycho read it, and tell me the contents..."Stealing followers is no way to make friends.""Humans are the only unaligned race. The Dwarves are aligned to me, and the Merfolk are aligned to at least four spheres."
Very good. I have no plan as of now to cause conflict, and I believe my book will get the attention of those I seek rather than your followers. Rest assured that my actions have a specific purpose and that none of those who remain peaceful will be harmed by their results
"You know nothing of my followers. The books will stay out of my cities. You will not 'gather the attention' of anyone inside of them. You will not set one foot inside of them. And you will not send anything inside of them."
You have shown so far a disturbingly great willingness to threaten and insult me and my domain. Should I consider this as a declaration of hostility, marking you as a threat to my interests?
((I know what you are talking about, no need for help))(Wait wasn't it just tick 107?)
(Shhh. It is being updated)QuoteVeiled threats are still threats. Fusil has threatened a god and according to proposal 103.09 he will be imprisoned for 1 Tick for doing so.Nope!I shall also encourage the Turonni not to read the book, and to report anyone that has purported to do so. They will then be investigated. Also, make Tycho read it, and tell me the contents..."Stealing followers is no way to make friends.""Humans are the only unaligned race. The Dwarves are aligned to me, and the Merfolk are aligned to at least four spheres."
Very good. I have no plan as of now to cause conflict, and I believe my book will get the attention of those I seek rather than your followers. Rest assured that my actions have a specific purpose and that none of those who remain peaceful will be harmed by their results
"You know nothing of my followers. The books will stay out of my cities. You will not 'gather the attention' of anyone inside of them. You will not set one foot inside of them. And you will not send anything inside of them."
You have shown so far a disturbingly great willingness to threaten and insult me and my domain. Should I consider this as a declaration of hostility, marking you as a threat to my interests?
"A certain proposal doesn't allow me to say what I would like to. Tykki, could you make what I am trying to say more clear?"
Retracted due to lack of trust in all of you.(You were to slow...So we can do that? Interesting.)
"To those more willing I assign the task of preventing a large rock from colliding with the rock named Keshan in exchange for 3E with a 2E bonus for destroying the rock.""Don't do it. The large rock is only as big as a person's head for all we know. A rock that large still counts as large. Also, the Lunagee - being half-angel - should be able to destroy so much of it that once it hits the ground it would do practically no damage if any, similar to most micrometeorites."
Malakath's magic tournament has started! The most flashy entries are as follows:The winner is selected and they're given a very large amount of money. The runners-up receive small amounts of money.
A fiery serpent appearing to loop above and below the ground.
A great cloud of unidentified metal dust in the likeness of an upside-down waterfall spreading in river-like patterns and falling throughout the area.
A poignant play played by animated clouds of mist.
A massive squid of rock and water swimming in what appears to be a sea of fire.
Fortuna has instructed the Turonni not to read the book and to report those who read it. Tycho has read it and reports that it contains some basic information about Ghizher and many dark secrets, each of which would drive a lesser mortal MAD! MAD!I pick up one of the Void books and scan it for Void Influence and Essence. Is it godly, Void, or something else entirely?
106.03: Throw Fusil into the sun and keep him there (3-2) [IMMINENT DEATH]This proposal should not be at [IMMINENT DEATH]. This proposal was supported by at least one other god, thus extending its time until death by 3 Ticks.
+3 from Neron, Quéßäre, KI'Tork
-2 from Fusil, Darruth
"Hey a Newbie! Welcome to the Council!"
KI'Tork creates several dozen of Portals alongside well-traveled paths and trade routs on Slytha and Keshan that lead to the other. They are located in and lead to places that are held by The Holy Meofisp.A Portal in Slytha would go to Keshan and so on. He Enchants the Portals so that anyone coming through must either be a Devout Follower of The Holy Meofisp, Any of its three Deities or that they sacrifice something that is valuable to them to The Holy Meofisp in order to use the Portals, Any Mortal that doesn't follow any of these rules will be teleported to a random location in the World the Portal is located in.
"Great, Now the Mortals can travel between Planets!"
KI'Tork also checks the numbers of The Frost Kobolds and tries to see how far their Civilization has expanded and how Faithful they are to The Holy Meofisp.
(You were to slow...So we can do that? Interesting.)
Greetings new god. I hope our similar colours don't cause too much confusion.
Oppose 107.00 We voted for that one for a reason.
Listen to prayers.
"Hey a Newbie! Welcome to the Council!"
KI'Tork creates several dozen of Portals alongside well-traveled paths and trade routs on Slytha and Keshan that lead to the other. They are located in and lead to places that are held by The Holy Meofisp.A Portal in Slytha would go to Keshan and so on. He Enchants the Portals so that anyone coming through must either be a Devout Follower of The Holy Meofisp, Any of its three Deities or that they sacrifice something that is valuable to them to The Holy Meofisp in order to use the Portals, Any Mortal that doesn't follow any of these rules will be teleported to a random location in the World the Portal is located in.
"Great, Now the Mortals can travel between Planets!"
KI'Tork also checks the numbers of The Frost Kobolds and tries to see how far their Civilization has expanded and how Faithful they are to The Holy Meofisp.
Oppose Fusil by clearing all the portals and protecting them from tampering."Hey a Newbie! Welcome to the Council!"
KI'Tork creates several dozen of Portals alongside well-traveled paths and trade routs on Slytha and Keshan that lead to the other. They are located in and lead to places that are held by The Holy Meofisp.A Portal in Slytha would go to Keshan and so on. He Enchants the Portals so that anyone coming through must either be a Devout Follower of The Holy Meofisp, Any of its three Deities or that they sacrifice something that is valuable to them to The Holy Meofisp in order to use the Portals, Any Mortal that doesn't follow any of these rules will be teleported to a random location in the World the Portal is located in.
"Great, Now the Mortals can travel between Planets!"
KI'Tork also checks the numbers of The Frost Kobolds and tries to see how far their Civilization has expanded and how Faithful they are to The Holy Meofisp.
"I don't want mortals traveling between the planets for no reason. We made them separate for a reason. I oppose of this, and will do what is necessary to seal them."
((you forgot my vote for the new proposal (107.00), probably because I added it just before your post))"Sentient beings are incapable of worship. What you're looking to create are sapient beings. Sapients have free will and are capable of worship, sentients have free will but are incapable of worship, and non-sentients have neither free will nor the ability to worship."
I name the gas giant D'hrool and create a sentient life form made out of gas, with lightnings serving as a brain. They are rather smart, but are harmed by change of pressure by getting dissipated in the atmosphere. They live a nomadic lifestyle, following weather patterns as to avoid pressure changes, require no food, but tend to dissipate as time pass, living up to 40-50 years. They reproduce by connecting their brains, forming a new one as the lightnings touch. As my creation, they worship me as their god-creator. I make about 300 of them.
I teach them how to use compromising secrets as a negotiation tool to obtain what they want.
"Greetings new god, my name is Neron, God of Ice may we work together in the future!Oppose Fusil by clearing all the portals and protecting them from tampering."Hey a Newbie! Welcome to the Council!"
KI'Tork creates several dozen of Portals alongside well-traveled paths and trade routs on Slytha and Keshan that lead to the other. They are located in and lead to places that are held by The Holy Meofisp.A Portal in Slytha would go to Keshan and so on. He Enchants the Portals so that anyone coming through must either be a Devout Follower of The Holy Meofisp, Any of its three Deities or that they sacrifice something that is valuable to them to The Holy Meofisp in order to use the Portals, Any Mortal that doesn't follow any of these rules will be teleported to a random location in the World the Portal is located in.
"Great, Now the Mortals can travel between Planets!"
KI'Tork also checks the numbers of The Frost Kobolds and tries to see how far their Civilization has expanded and how Faithful they are to The Holy Meofisp.
"I don't want mortals traveling between the planets for no reason. We made them separate for a reason. I oppose of this, and will do what is necessary to seal them."
"Whats wrong with the portals? They don't even affect your followers...
"Greetings new god, my name is Neron, God of Ice may we work together in the future!Oppose Fusil by clearing all the portals and protecting them from tampering."Hey a Newbie! Welcome to the Council!"
KI'Tork creates several dozen of Portals alongside well-traveled paths and trade routs on Slytha and Keshan that lead to the other. They are located in and lead to places that are held by The Holy Meofisp.A Portal in Slytha would go to Keshan and so on. He Enchants the Portals so that anyone coming through must either be a Devout Follower of The Holy Meofisp, Any of its three Deities or that they sacrifice something that is valuable to them to The Holy Meofisp in order to use the Portals, Any Mortal that doesn't follow any of these rules will be teleported to a random location in the World the Portal is located in.
"Great, Now the Mortals can travel between Planets!"
KI'Tork also checks the numbers of The Frost Kobolds and tries to see how far their Civilization has expanded and how Faithful they are to The Holy Meofisp.
"I don't want mortals traveling between the planets for no reason. We made them separate for a reason. I oppose of this, and will do what is necessary to seal them."
"Whats wrong with the portals? They don't even affect your followers...
((you forgot my vote for the new proposal (107.00), probably because I added it just before your post))"Sentient beings are incapable of worship. What you're looking to create are sapient beings. Sapients have free will and are capable of worship, sentients have free will but are incapable of worship, and non-sentients have neither free will nor the ability to worship."
I name the gas giant D'hrool and create a sentient life form made out of gas, with lightnings serving as a brain. They are rather smart, but are harmed by change of pressure by getting dissipated in the atmosphere. They live a nomadic lifestyle, following weather patterns as to avoid pressure changes, require no food, but tend to dissipate as time pass, living up to 40-50 years. They reproduce by connecting their brains, forming a new one as the lightnings touch. As my creation, they worship me as their god-creator. I make about 300 of them.
I teach them how to use compromising secrets as a negotiation tool to obtain what they want.
"Grauel, I will assist you in reading through all Tick reports, but I'm a bit busy at the moment."
"First off, this changes nothing. In what way will this even affect the reincarnation system?""Greetings new god, my name is Neron, God of Ice may we work together in the future!Oppose Fusil by clearing all the portals and protecting them from tampering."Hey a Newbie! Welcome to the Council!"
KI'Tork creates several dozen of Portals alongside well-traveled paths and trade routs on Slytha and Keshan that lead to the other. They are located in and lead to places that are held by The Holy Meofisp.A Portal in Slytha would go to Keshan and so on. He Enchants the Portals so that anyone coming through must either be a Devout Follower of The Holy Meofisp, Any of its three Deities or that they sacrifice something that is valuable to them to The Holy Meofisp in order to use the Portals, Any Mortal that doesn't follow any of these rules will be teleported to a random location in the World the Portal is located in.
"Great, Now the Mortals can travel between Planets!"
KI'Tork also checks the numbers of The Frost Kobolds and tries to see how far their Civilization has expanded and how Faithful they are to The Holy Meofisp.
"I don't want mortals traveling between the planets for no reason. We made them separate for a reason. I oppose of this, and will do what is necessary to seal them."
"Whats wrong with the portals? They don't even affect your followers...
"Everyone is effected by this. It will ruin the perfect reincarnation system we have set up! And for what? Nothing. My followers would be able to use the portal as well. Anyone would be able to use the portal as well. The reincarnation system would be destroyed, the planets thrown into chaos, and nothing would be gained of it but some Ammusment for the Kitchen God.
If you continue to oppose me, I could always just give the directions of these portals to that Merman Emperor. Do you want him loose on the second planet as well? I am sure he has enough valuables to get an army through."
"Second, that was a very poor threat, god of weapons.""That was a threat, wasn't it? A very overt one at that, no need for lawmode. Still, the Merman Emperor may just use it on his own volition to conquer in Slytha which I cannot allow."
I've been thinking about this for a while but since there are a growing number of planets, planetoids, moons, etc with living creatures on it, we might want to consider changing the reincarnation system so that souls just reincarnate at whatever location needs souls the most. I'm not proposing this yet because I'd rather hear thoughts on the idea first and any additions, changes, objections, etc people might have to the idea."That is an acceptable reincarnation system."
I've been thinking about this for a while but since there are a growing number of planets, planetoids, moons, etc with living creatures on it, we might want to consider changing the reincarnation system so that souls just reincarnate at whatever location needs souls the most. I'm not proposing this yet because I'd rather hear thoughts on the idea first and any additions, changes, objections, etc people might have to the idea.
"First off, this changes nothing. In what way will this even affect the reincarnation system?"
"Second, that was a very poor threat, god of weapons."
I've been thinking about this for a while but since there are a growing number of planets, planetoids, moons, etc with living creatures on it, we might want to consider changing the reincarnation system so that souls just reincarnate at whatever location needs souls the most. I'm not proposing this yet because I'd rather hear thoughts on the idea first and any additions, changes, objections, etc people might have to the idea.
The old system was definitely good but I'm not sure how it will hold up with the increasing number of habitable locations that are removed from the original planets.
"If that was non violent then I must be a God of Fire."Quote"First off, this changes nothing. In what way will this even affect the reincarnation system?"
"Second, that was a very poor threat, god of weapons."
"Allowing people to walk between the worlds, the worlds they are reincarnated to at death, practically at will? This completely ruins the system. If you notice, you don't even have to be a follower to use this. Anyone with something they can sacrifice can simply go to what is effectively the world they would enter when they die. At any time. The perfect system would be forever changed, forever ruined.
And I have to get clever with my threats, as I am forbidden from specifically threatening violence. Non-violent threats are rather difficult for me."
Create an atmosphere suitable to the Sewa on the planet and create the closed Sewa reincarnation system, allow stasis spirits to cycle back in once the system is set up so the stasis spirits don't deteriorate or sink into the void((This just reminded me that I need to do the same))
"If that was non violent then I must be a God of Fire."Quote"First off, this changes nothing. In what way will this even affect the reincarnation system?"
"Second, that was a very poor threat, god of weapons."
"Allowing people to walk between the worlds, the worlds they are reincarnated to at death, practically at will? This completely ruins the system. If you notice, you don't even have to be a follower to use this. Anyone with something they can sacrifice can simply go to what is effectively the world they would enter when they die. At any time. The perfect system would be forever changed, forever ruined.
And I have to get clever with my threats, as I am forbidden from specifically threatening violence. Non-violent threats are rather difficult for me."
"Maybe I will give the Merfolk Emperor some directions to the Armu lands then...""If that was non violent then I must be a God of Fire."Quote"First off, this changes nothing. In what way will this even affect the reincarnation system?"
"Second, that was a very poor threat, god of weapons."
"Allowing people to walk between the worlds, the worlds they are reincarnated to at death, practically at will? This completely ruins the system. If you notice, you don't even have to be a follower to use this. Anyone with something they can sacrifice can simply go to what is effectively the world they would enter when they die. At any time. The perfect system would be forever changed, forever ruined.
And I have to get clever with my threats, as I am forbidden from specifically threatening violence. Non-violent threats are rather difficult for me."
"What is violent about giving a man directions? Certainly, it is a most peaceful action, no matter what the man does with them."
"Maybe I will give the Merfolk Emperor some directions to the Armu lands then...""If that was non violent then I must be a God of Fire."Quote"First off, this changes nothing. In what way will this even affect the reincarnation system?"
"Second, that was a very poor threat, god of weapons."
"Allowing people to walk between the worlds, the worlds they are reincarnated to at death, practically at will? This completely ruins the system. If you notice, you don't even have to be a follower to use this. Anyone with something they can sacrifice can simply go to what is effectively the world they would enter when they die. At any time. The perfect system would be forever changed, forever ruined.
And I have to get clever with my threats, as I am forbidden from specifically threatening violence. Non-violent threats are rather difficult for me."
"What is violent about giving a man directions? Certainly, it is a most peaceful action, no matter what the man does with them."
"Grauel, I never thought that I would have agreed with you, But that's a good idea! I Approve of it. Anyways it's nice to know that now Mortals can transfer ideas between Planets, Which will likely increase Commerce, Technology and so on, It has nothing but benefits for the Entire Council! I also have an Idea! What if we pooled our Essence to create an Infinite Temple Dimension where our Worshipers can go to pray instead of in an ordinary Temple. It would likely increase their Faith to be surrounded by their Deity's Spheres and prevent Vandalism and Temple Defacing because the Plane would be Infinite! And every Deity would have their own section of course, And just picture the Potential for Feasts! Violence would be completely impossible in the Dimension to prevent squabbles and infighting but there could be Arenas and such where Certain Deities*Cough*Fusil*Cough* would be able to practice their Spheres without harming others. Also New God, I'm completely fine with you spreading your Religion to my followers as long as they don't ditch me for it. I don't know why some Deities insist on Starving the Newbies, It's quite jacked up in my opinion."
"Grauel, I never thought that I would have agreed with you, But that's a good idea! I Approve of it."
Propose that we know the identities of the god or gods who helped the Merman Emperor and propose that we know the Merman Emperor's motives and goals.
"We ought to stop procrastinating on this issue. As gods we should've already dealt with this a long time ago."
Somehow I doubt this will work all that well. One way or another. Besides which, at this point, there's no reason to. Antagonizing him will only worsen the situation, which has stabilized and improved again."We wouldn't antagonize him because the proposals won't affect him even if they pass, especially the first proposal."
And before you make some comment about nuking them if they try and touch your cities, Fusil, I'll point out that this would cause Mega-Deaths, resulting in the Council being very upset with you again,"Firstly, that proposal is meant to relate to him threatening us, our objects, or our subjects - not those unaffiliated to us and you know it. Secondly, I'm pretty sure he meant that he'd nuke the Merman's armies rather than Merfolk cities. Civilians are sacrosanctum, but armies are fair game."
Azem (Wealth, Trade): 67/66, 8-9"Why does Azem have 67/66 Essence?"
I don't think it's that easy. If it was, I'd have made a proposal about who if anyone has used time warping to modify past events and what events have they modified. Or for that matter, who was the HoDo killer? Or who started the plagues? Who killed those sleeping gods really early on? The Demons? The Parasites?((The Oracle exists, remember?))
Mortals can already travel through my Catacombs, and they can exit them through any gravesite or tomb. On any world.
I don't see why the portals are so bad...
sudden immense Merfolk invasion from marketplaces and graveyards
Proxies of mages powerfull enough to bypass requirements to enter. Upon wishing to leave, person would find their way to the point where they originaly wanted to go within a minute
Malakath creates weed and gives some to Khaziraad.
"Here, smoke some of this at about twenty past four every afternoon, every day. It should calm you down a bit, at least enough to communicate coherently."
"Ooh Giant Lizard Beasts. You preparing for War Fusil?"
"I'm looking for someone to aid me in a few projects in exchange for my aid in their projects. I have three projects available. The first costs 5E, the second costs 6E, and the third costs 10E. If your project's price costs the same amount of Essence we can come to a deal where we help each-other on each of our projects, thus discounting their prices and making them cheaper for the both of us. Is anyone interested in my offer? Also, this offer is not limited to just one other person, even for just one project. The more people are involved the more the projects are discounted, after all."
"Ghizher, allow me to introduce myself. I am Lord Malakath, goddess of Souls and Blood. As all magic comes from the soul - thank you Fusil for educating me on this - it turns out that I am also the defacto goddess of magic. Now, while I have refrained from dabbling into Void magic for its naturally anathemic nature, I'm rather interested in the magic which you present. As you are a god, rather than a Null, I should theoretically be able to control your magic and thus safely use it. I was wondering if I could borrow one of those books you just made to learn more about your particularly unique flavour of magic, if you don't mind."
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"How rude of me, I completely forgot to introduce myself. My name is Melyssa, and I am the goddess of torture. I'm part of the Holy Meofisp, together with Neron and KI'Tork. Your books are interesting, and I will allow their existence in my cities as long as my followers stay loyal to me."
Melyssa checks if there are any eldritch books in the Flagellant cities. If she manages to find some, she sends Azxar, Uthon and Zekeb to see if the followers have remained loyal to her. Those who have chosen for the eldritch gods will be forced to die in a Brazen Bull. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazen_bull)
"Hello, Ghizher. I am Cim, the God of Order and Law. I mostly work behind the scenes, but call my name at any time and I will respond. I hope, for your sake, that you seek to learn how this world works, as soon as possible, for your primary sphere puts you in grave danger if you are not careful."
"Winners to not use drugs, God of Architecture!""You must use a lot of drugs, then."
"I'm always preparing for a Feast so I can understand the Sentiment. Also Malakath that's a great idea, Thanks for the inspiration, Don't know why Fusil doesn't like it.""I sincerely hope you plan to credit me with the invention, KI'Tork. I'd be rather upset if you didn't."
KI'Tork creates Frost Resistant Weed and teaches the Frost Kobolds how to farm and use it before giving to them. The Weed is enchanted to be nonaddictive and to not have harmful effects, Instead it increases their Health and can also be brewed into a Potion that grants regeneration for roughly half a minute, Along with simply smoking it.
I am glad to meet you. I would be willing to teach you my specific brand of magic. I would not recommend the book I have created however, as it shows merely a small glimpse of my true power. I will ask a small amount of essence in return, as I need a large amount of the thing for my upcoming projects, and because this is no small offering that I am about to gift you."I would prefer the small glimpse before I invest more fully in your magic. Call it a demo."
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I would like to know more about this "Meofisp" you talk about. As for my books, their purpose was to take over some eldritch cults, your followers should be safe."The "Holy Meofisp" as they call it is the name of their pantheon. A pantheon is a group of gods who urge their followers into worshipping other members of the pantheon. This results in a decrease in worship quality but an overall increase in Essence-gain via worship quantity."
"The Holy Meofisp (Abreviation of Mighty Explosion Of Frozen Satisfying Pain) is a recently formed alliance between KI'Tork, Neron and me. We've got our own ice planet named Nikjol. We have sworn to help and support each other."How rude of me, I completely forgot to introduce myself. My name is Melyssa, and I am the goddess of torture. I'm part of the Holy Meofisp, together with Neron and KI'Tork. Your books are interesting, and I will allow their existence in my cities as long as my followers stay loyal to me."
Melyssa checks if there are any eldritch books in the Flagellant cities. If she manages to find some, she sends Azxar, Uthon and Zekeb to see if the followers have remained loyal to her. Those who have chosen for the eldritch gods will be forced to die in a Brazen Bull. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazen_bull)
I would like to know more about this "Meofisp" you talk about. As for my books, their purpose was to take over some eldritch cults, your followers should be safe.
I am glad to meet you. I would be willing to teach you my specific brand of magic. I would not recommend the book I have created however, as it shows merely a small glimpse of my true power. I will ask a small amount of essence in return, as I need a large amount of the thing for my upcoming projects, and because this is no small offering that I am about to gift you."I would prefer the small glimpse before I invest more fully in your magic. Call it a demo."
KI'Tork creates Frost Resistant Weed. The Weed can also be brewed into a Potion that grants regeneration for roughly half a minute, Along with simply smoking it."I'm slightly confused here. Does Frost Weed's regenerative abilities work if it's smoked or is this only possible if it's in potion form?"
I select some missionaries to distribute Mystic Weed to areas where Mystic Snow is commonly consumed. This will hopefully take them off the more damaging Mystic Snow being peddled by ruthless gangsters. As missionaries, they will attempt to spread my religion as they go. To ensure the safety of my missionaries, they will have a couple of temple guards accompanying each of them. The guards and the missionaries will be screened to make sure they are all devout to me and are also strong-willed enough to not smoke their own product. Mystic Weed will come at a very small price - only enough to pay for the living expenses of the missionaries and their guards.
(Great, now we have two serial editors -_-)QuoteI select some missionaries to distribute Mystic Weed to areas where Mystic Snow is commonly consumed. This will hopefully take them off the more damaging Mystic Snow being peddled by ruthless gangsters. As missionaries, they will attempt to spread my religion as they go. To ensure the safety of my missionaries, they will have a couple of temple guards accompanying each of them. The guards and the missionaries will be screened to make sure they are all devout to me and are also strong-willed enough to not smoke their own product. Mystic Weed will come at a very small price - only enough to pay for the living expenses of the missionaries and their guards.
They are, of course, kept out of Fusil loyal lands by way of bolt point. Malakath really has to stop pushing her drugs and religion in my land!
Azem sighs.
"She's trying to be helpful you know. This invention of the cooking god's sounds better than Mystic Snow at least."
"Right. I'll just put you down on my list of Mystic Snow supporters Fortuna, and I will be sure to send a few dealers your way."
It will be called "twilight bell" due to it's coloration and shape.((Can it not? We already have Deathbells and Twilight born... Both my races. And the bells of twilight.))
QuoteIt will be called "twilight bell" due to it's coloration and shape.((Can it not? We already have Deathbells and Twilight born... Both my races))
"At this rate, all caravans will be considered unwanted missionaries of myself."
Well, I suppose it's impossible to worship the God of Weapons and the God of Blood at the same time. Their spheres have nothing to do with each other after all. And it's just impossible for a mortal to worship multiple gods at the same time, whilst primarily following one.
Oh, wait, no, that's the opposite of the truth.
I'd by far rather have this weed than the snow. Less harmful in every way. That doesn't mean I actually like the weed, however. But it is no worse than strong drink, and will be treated in much the same way.
I'd also like to see if I'm getting any essence from worship.
I would argue quite the opposite. Any Snow dealer can collect massive amounts when it does fall, and then charge massive amounts for the limited supply to addicts. I've begun filtering out anytime you say 'you don't know anything' since it seems to have become shorthand for you managing to say nothing at all of any use. It's just a way for you to point and laugh again. Only no one is laughing with you.
I do like how you added the 'probably' in there, and how you seem to be implying that no one other than Armu, Seppo, or Hovori live in those cities. But hey, if you want to play by yourself in your own little sandbox, go right ahead. It's better than you knocking over everyone else's sand castles. Keep being paranoid if you want, but I would be worried about Cim and Grauel first and foremost, of anyone; consider that they never appear active yet always are. At least when Malakath is being silly or dumb, or any of the other gods who primarily work publicly, you get a chance to protest. If Malakath had done this secretly, you wouldn't even know until after the fact.
"For my own sanity, and the good of all godlings, I'm not going to allow this. Consider yourself on trial as of this moment Arms-Bearer."
IV. Thou Shall Not Force Mortals Not To Worship Other Gods"I stand with you, Azem. I will not vote on this trial yet, however."
I'm sorry Stirk, my mental filter caught the bits in the first part about you claiming I don't know anything and so the rest kinda got shuffled out. Could you repeat that, maybe with a little less condescension? Maybe I'll be able to understand you better.
I say you're paranoid because you think they're there to steal your followers. And while I wouldn't put it past Malakath, sharing and stealing aren't really the same thing. Like I said though, it's your choice if you want to keep them to yourself. That's not something I'll begrudge you, especially since I've been starting to feel very similarly, considering Melyssa and this new eldritch god and the like.
And yes, I'm paranoid on the subject of Cim and Grauel. I will admit that gladly. It pays off to be, around Gods that powerful.
Mmmmm...I would actually have to support Fusil on this one. He's not forcing mortals to stop worshipping other gods, he's trying to prevent other gods from converting his followers. Sorry Azem. At least, if that's what you were suing him for. The spirit of the law does not apply to this situation; he's not forcing the worshipers, he's forcing away the converters.
Mmmmm...I would actually have to support Fusil on this one. He's not forcing mortals to stop worshipping other gods, he's trying to prevent other gods from converting his followers. Sorry Azem. At least, if that's what you were suing him for. The spirit of the law does not apply to this situation; he's not forcing the worshipers, he's forcing away the converters."That makes enough sense to hold as a defense. That is why I won't vote...yet."
Quote from: Code of ConductIV. Thou Shall Not Force Mortals Not To Worship Other Gods"I stand with you, Azem. I will not vote on this trial yet, however."
Cim gets ready to counterspell Tykki.
I'm sorry Stirk, my mental filter caught the bits in the first part about you claiming I don't know anything and so the rest kinda got shuffled out. Could you repeat that, maybe with a little less condescension? Maybe I'll be able to understand you better.
I say you're paranoid because you think they're there to steal your followers. And while I wouldn't put it past Malakath, sharing and stealing aren't really the same thing. Like I said though, it's your choice if you want to keep them to yourself. That's not something I'll begrudge you, especially since I've been starting to feel very similarly, considering Melyssa and this new eldritch god and the like.
Mmmmm...I would actually have to support Fusil on this one. He's not forcing mortals to stop worshipping other gods, he's trying to prevent other gods from converting his followers. Sorry Azem. At least, if that's what you were suing him for. The spirit of the law does not apply to this situation; he's not forcing the worshipers, he's forcing away the converters."That makes enough sense to hold as a defense. That is why I won't vote...yet."
Cim counterspells the counter-counterspell.
"Azem! Use your bean-counter skills to counterspell the counter-counterspell!"
Cim counts: "One counter! Two counters! Three counters! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!"
Cim calls in Co'unt're'mup, the Guardian of Counters, from the Void.
"KI'Tork, give me a kitchen with all its counters so I can counter that counter-counterspell!"
"Fusil. Do not try to defeat me in my own game. Your troupe's lawmancy only serves only to make me more powerful. That's about as viable to you as me directly attacking you with a sword."
They are, of course, kept out of Fusil loyal lands by way of bolt point. Malakath really has to stop pushing her drugs and religion in my land!Missionaries and angels have been forbidden from going to the "forbidden cities" for a while now. These forbidden cities include the ASH cities, the Golem/Gremlin cities, and the Grauel capital. Even if your cities weren't forbidden, my missionaries wouldn't go to your lands unless there was a lot of Mystic Snow-use there.
Well, Malakath, I never thought you'd stoop so low as to become a petty drug dealer. Evidently us gods can be no better than the mortals, sometimes... better keep this away from the Turonni, though. I'd rather you not erode the quality of my worship by selling them cheap drugs."My missionaries are only going to cities that have high amounts of Mystic Snow-use. If they're visiting your cities then I think you have bigger problems at hand than the missionaries themselves. Regardless, my missionaries of Weed will not visit your lands."
"Mystic snow at least only falls once in a blue moon, allowing a much shorter effective time and letting those afflicted by it get by as normal the rest of the year. This stuff grows every day, leading the addicts to use it every day.""Mystic Snow originally only fell once a year, but eventually someone asked if more Mystic Snowfall could be had and Varee extended the time so that Mystic Snow falls for two weeks out of every year. Also, Mystic Weed doesn't grow in the wild. Only my missionaries have access to it."
Your caravans presumably don't offer mind-altering substances on the cheap as a means to gather worship..."The missionaries I sent have been sent to convince people to worship me, yes, but Mystic Weed is being distributed regardless of religion."
Are you really hurting that bad for worshipers, Malakath?
If you want drug addled worshipers, Darruth ((not sure if you are... but you are now :P)) feel free to let the missionaries enter your cities."They would enter his cities only if they were full of Mystic Snow addicts."
"You do realize most of the A-S-H races probably don't even have blood?""Blood is merely my secondary sphere."
Well, Malakath, I never thought you'd stoop so low as to become a petty drug dealer. Evidently us gods can be no better than the mortals, sometimes... better keep this away from the Turonni, though. I'd rather you not erode the quality of my worship by selling them cheap drugs."My missionaries are only going to cities that have high amounts of Mystic Snow-use. If they're visiting your cities then I think you have bigger problems at hand than the missionaries themselves. Regardless, my missionaries of Weed will not visit your lands."
Your caravans presumably don't offer mind-altering substances on the cheap as a means to gather worship...
Are you really hurting that bad for worshipers, Malakath?
"The missionaries I sent have been sent to convince people to worship me, yes, but Mystic Weed is being distributed regardless of religion."
Indeed, but your dealers are also proselytising, which is something I cannot abide."I was just arguing against the insinuation that I'm using Mystic Weed as a catalyst to gain more followers which I am most certainly not doing. Proselytism is merely a side activity and will not interfere with their anti-Snow work."
What are the effects of this Mystic Weed, and also the Mystic Snow, so I know just how bad the work should be for the addicts in Chance."Mystic Weed is less addictive than Mystic Snow. While Snow makes someone feel happy and energetic, Weed makes them calm and at peace. Despite this, someone who regularly consumes Weed is more productive than someone who regularly consumes Snow since Weed's effects are less severe and it's not actively distractive against pursuing other activities, unlike Snow."
An addendum to the edict putting junkies to work: the convicts will be provided with the minimum amount of Weed and/or Snow to avoid withdrawal symptoms. Any convict wishing to be paroled will be observed over the course of a half-year while still doing the menial labour. After this, they will be released into society, to do as they wish, but still under a further half-year observation to make sure they aren't using."Fortuna, you have no Mystic Weed addicts. I only created Mystic Weed this Tick and the only ones who have access to it are my missionaries who haven't visited your cities. Since they're not allowed to enter, it's unlikely you will ever half Mystic Weed addicts unless you give them some."
Propose: I Say We Remove all Harmful Effects/Addictions from Narcotics!
"All of the Current ones, I assume..."
KI'Tork gives Cim a Five-Star Kitchen with an emphasis on Counter Aesthetics."Could you possibly design me a kitchen specifically designed to aid experimentation with magical potions?"
Propose: I Say We Remove all Harmful Effects/Addictions from Narcotics!"If by "harmful effects" you mean things such as Mystic Snow's tendency to make its users less productive and intelligent then I will support this proposal, but only for existing narcotics. If someone in the future decides to make narcotics that make people more violent or damage their system of morality then it would probably be for the best that they have some harmful effects for the user."
Propose: I Say We Remove all Harmful Effects/Addictions from Narcotics!"I've changed my mind. I'm going to oppose this proposal. In the time that the proposal will pass someone might create a narcotic similar to what I described previously. Instead I will only support removing all harmful effects from Mystic Snow and Frost Weed specifically. Additionally, I will support removing all addictions from all narcotics since addiction is never good regardless of the narcotic's effects."
Propose: I Say We Remove all Harmful Effects/Addictions from Narcotics!"I've changed my mind. I'm going to oppose this proposal. In the time that the proposal will pass someone might create a narcotic similar to what I described previously. Instead I will only support removing all harmful effects from Mystic Snow and Frost Weed specifically[. Additionally, I will support removing all addictions from all narcotics since addiction is never good regardless of the narcotic's effects."
Indeed, but your dealers are also proselytising, which is something I cannot abide."I was just arguing against the insinuation that I'm using Mystic Weed as a catalyst to gain more followers which I am most certainly not doing. Proselytism is merely a side activity and will not interfere with their anti-Snow work."
What are the effects of this Mystic Weed, and also the Mystic Snow, so I know just how bad the work should be for the addicts in Chance.
"Mystic Weed is less addictive than Mystic Snow. While Snow makes someone feel happy and energetic, Weed makes them calm and at peace. Despite this, someone who regularly consumes Weed is more productive than someone who regularly consumes Snow since Weed's effects are less severe and it's not actively distractive against pursuing other activities, unlike Snow."
EDIT: "The one thing it distracts against is addiction to Mystic Snow."An addendum to the edict putting junkies to work: the convicts will be provided with the minimum amount of Weed and/or Snow to avoid withdrawal symptoms. Any convict wishing to be paroled will be observed over the course of a half-year while still doing the menial labour. After this, they will be released into society, to do as they wish, but still under a further half-year observation to make sure they aren't using."Fortuna, you have no Mystic Weed addicts. I only created Mystic Weed this Tick and the only ones who have access to it are my missionaries who haven't visited your cities. Since they're not allowed to enter, it's unlikely you will ever half Mystic Weed addicts unless you give them some."
Missionaries will only distribute enough Weed to each person to last that person a day. People are not allowed to buy in bulk.
This what I'm talking about when I say some of you are too reliant on the council. How hard would it be to make a small modification to your own followers so they don't get addicted to things so easily? I see little reason for the council to get involved in every little change a god wants to make to the world when most of these changes can be done quite easily by individuals or small groups and often without dragging people who don't care into it.
Council action should really be for only the most important of cases that effect everyone and that can't be solved by individuals or small groups without massive investments. I don't think this is one of those cases.
Watch.
Make it so the Gruen do not suffer from addictive properties of any substances unless I specify that it affects them.
Problem solved for me. I don't need to make a proposal and convince everyone to make it pass and I don't need to worry about the Gruen snorting snow. Imagine that someone just goes and makes something new and even more addictive by using a lot of essence. With the way you all do things, we'd have to go through a whole new round of proposals and voting whereas I just need to take a few seconds to employ a new quick action.
My only real interest in this conflict is to prevent the creation of laws that will restrict the creation of drugs or limit their effect.This what I'm talking about when I say some of you are too reliant on the council. How hard would it be to make a small modification to your own followers so they don't get addicted to things so easily? I see little reason for the council to get involved in every little change a god wants to make to the world when most of these changes can be done quite easily by individuals or small groups and often without dragging people who don't care into it.
Council action should really be for only the most important of cases that effect everyone and that can't be solved by individuals or small groups without massive investments. I don't think this is one of those cases.
Watch.
Make it so the Gruen do not suffer from addictive properties of any substances unless I specify that it affects them.
Problem solved for me. I don't need to make a proposal and convince everyone to make it pass and I don't need to worry about the Gruen snorting snow. Imagine that someone just goes and makes something new and even more addictive by using a lot of essence. With the way you all do things, we'd have to go through a whole new round of proposals and voting whereas I just need to take a few seconds to employ a new quick action.
"This really seems like the obviose solution. Why are you arguing over something when, as Gods, you can change it with little effort? Even for just your own followers if you feel it necessary. Everyone can have it their own way for a few essence without this pointless council."
"I'm against both. What I'm saying is that the morality breaker should have harmful effects against those who take it and that addictions are never good no matter what drug is taken. Being addicted to something that breaks your morality and actively harms you is bad, no?"Propose: I Say We Remove all Harmful Effects/Addictions from Narcotics!"I've changed my mind. I'm going to oppose this proposal. In the time that the proposal will pass someone might create a narcotic similar to what I described previously. Instead I will only support removing all harmful effects from Mystic Snow and Frost Weed specifically[. Additionally, I will support removing all addictions from all narcotics since addiction is never good regardless of the narcotic's effects."
You have no problem with drugs that break a mortal's system of morality but are against addictions? I must admit this opinion of yours greatly confuse me. Anyways, I Oppose removing the addictive effect of all future drugs.
You're using the excuse of giving addicts a different drug in order to convert them, Malakath. This is going to erode another god's Essence gain to some extent, which I don't like, and would like even less if it were my worshipers."As I said, they would've kept their proselytism separate from their drug-dealing - they wouldn't attempt to convert people who bought from them. If I didn't have my missionaries proselytise while they were in foreign lands then I would gain nothing from undertaking in this activity unless I served only my own cities. Looking back, however, I can see that that was not sufficiently charitable enough and if the current proposals to fix Mystic Snow don't pass then I will even help cities whose people primarily worship other gods without attempting to convert them."
You're using the excuse of giving addicts a different drug in order to convert them, Malakath. This is going to erode another god's Essence gain to some extent, which I don't like, and would like even less if it were my worshipers."As I said, they would've kept their proselytism separate from their drug-dealing - they wouldn't attempt to convert people who bought from them. If I didn't have my missionaries proselytise while they were in foreign lands then I would gain nothing from undertaking in this activity unless I served only my own cities. Looking back, however, I can see that that was not sufficiently charitable enough and if the current proposals to fix Mystic Snow don't pass then I will even help cities whose people primarily worship other gods without attempting to convert them."
Given that we are technically competing against each other..."We are only competing with each-other because we choose to. We can just as easily choose to work together and openly promote polytheism."
Given that we are technically competing against each other..."We are only competing with each-other because we choose to. We can just as easily choose to work together and openly promote polytheism."
+1 and unify under a grand pantheon.Given that we are technically competing against each other..."We are only competing with each-other because we choose to. We can just as easily choose to work together and openly promote polytheism."
Followers of Darruth are made immune to physiologically addictive effects of drugs, and resistant to psychological addiction to things other than doing Good. Including alcohol.
This extends to a lesser degree to those around them via magical aura-ish seeping things and Obelisks, and Darruthian priests can cure drug addictions during the induction into the Church/becoming a follower.
((And before anyone says 'oh you're not curing anyone who asks for it you're not Good after all!', it's really not that bloody hard to join the church, and if you aren't willing to follow the teachings of the fucking God of Goodness in order to deal with your addiction, and have a drug problem, well...))
"Also, Malakath, Asking me if I can design a Kitchen to experiment with Potions is like asking Fusil if he can make a Sword out of Steel. All you need to do is ask and Pay me back however Much Essence I lost creating it."
"Don't worry about The Holy Meofisp's Worship Quality Grauel, We've got a Plan to fix that."
+1 and unify under a grand pantheon.Given that we are technically competing against each other..."We are only competing with each-other because we choose to. We can just as easily choose to work together and openly promote polytheism."
Expensive and frustrating that it's necessary in the first place. The frustration would be there if it was a proposal, too, though.Followers of Darruth are made immune to physiologically addictive effects of drugs, and resistant to psychological addiction to things other than doing Good. Including alcohol.
This extends to a lesser degree to those around them via magical aura-ish seeping things and Obelisks, and Darruthian priests can cure drug addictions during the induction into the Church/becoming a follower.
((And before anyone says 'oh you're not curing anyone who asks for it you're not Good after all!', it's really not that bloody hard to join the church, and if you aren't willing to follow the teachings of the fucking God of Goodness in order to deal with your addiction, and have a drug problem, well...))
There we go! How does it feel not to have to make a proposal to do that? Pretty good right?
Followers of Darruth are made immune to physiologically addictive effects of drugs, and resistant to psychological addiction to things other than doing Good. Including alcohol.""Followers of Darruth." Does that mean anyone who worships you is liable for the gift or only primary worshippers? Some may choose to worship another god primarily and you secondarily, after all."
This extends to a lesser degree to those around them via magical aura-ish seeping things and Obelisks, and Darruthian priests can cure drug addictions during the induction into the Church/becoming a follower.
My main problem is none of those things though. My problem is the longer you share things and the more intertwined the followers become, the more blurry the lines of acceptability become. It becomes a situation similar to that of when the humans were created. Several different people contribute and feel a sense of entitlement or something akin to ownership. If I decided right now to take the Gruen and change them all to have 3 heads, I don't think anyone would care because they're pretty much exclusively my followers. If I took the humans when they first came out and tried the same thing, I'm sure it would spark debates. I simply have no wish whatsoever to put myself in a situation where someone gets to tell me how I should interact with my followers because I acknowledge that we all have different spheres and different things which are important to us. These things do not always align with one another."I would be upset if you did that to the Gruen if you didn't ask for consent first. Simply turning someone into something they might not want to be does not sit well with me. Notice how I asked if people wanted to become blood-drinkers first rather than simply mutating some of my followers. What if those followers didn't want a longer lifespan? It's just not right."
"Also, Malakath, Asking me if I can design a Kitchen to experiment with Potions is like asking Fusil if he can make a Sword out of Steel. All you need to do is ask and Pay me back however Much Essence I lost creating it.""What if I shared knowledge with you about the potions I create? Then we would both profit."
"If they worshipped no god including you, would they be pure?""Don't worry about The Holy Meofisp's Worship Quality Grauel, We've got a Plan to fix that."
"He was probably referring to the Light's stupid idea to mesh all our worshipers together in one huge, useless, and pathetic pantheon. I continue to refuse this idea. I want my worshipers pure. I was clear on that."
"I would be upset if you did that to the Gruen if you didn't ask for consent first. Simply turning someone into something they might not want to be does not sit well with me. Notice how I asked if people wanted to become blood-drinkers first rather than simply mutating some of my followers. What if those followers didn't want a longer lifespan? It's just not right."
You know, on introspection, I actually find that question offensive, Malakath, which I didn't expect. So my answer will be that it's not your business, since you seem so keen on peddling these drugs around. I'm not going to enable you taking advantage of the things I try to do to protect my people to advance your own agenda."I cancelled the creation and distribution of Mystic Weed earlier today in case you didn't know. Now, I only began peddling them around because of the detrimental effects of Mystic Snow. Since these detrimental effects are going away, I have no need to "peddle my drugs" and so I won't. I don't even know how you think I can take advantage of you helping those who don't primarily follow you. I don't have an agenda and I don't believe I ever have. At what point will you realise that I'm not as malevolent as you think I am?"
A group of your followers start worshiping Melyssa to the same extent as you. They pray to Melyssa asking for the ability to become more powerful through use of torture. Melyssa complies. These mortals have gotten what they wanted but now you have a group of torture fanatics living in your city alongside a bunch of regular followers who don't worship Melyssa."First of all, I don't have a problem with people torturing themselves if they want to. Secondly, I'd only get upset if they tortured other people without their permission. It's not for me to dictate how my followers live their lives, just so long as they don't make the lives of others worse. (I'd add "without their consent" but if they did consent they probably wouldn't see it as having a worse life.)"
Would you be mad at Melyssa? Possibly because you feel like what she did is affecting the quality of life for your other worshipers and that group is doing something that goes very much against your morals? Now think about it like this. Regardless of whether or not you think what Melyssa did is wrong, all she did was act out her sphere with people who follow her and prayed to her and got exactly what they want.
Same situation but the followers are just Melyssa's and they live in a town composed entirely of Melyssa's followers. We've seen situations like this before and I have no recollection of any of you interfering or saying anything about it."I don't listen to the prayers directed at other gods. I consider it to be rude and an invasion of privacy. (If only a minor one.) Yes, I'm aware that Yaos held the same opinion and that's probably where I get mine from but it makes sense to me and so I'll keep my opinion." ((Yeah, I actually don't read other people's prayers, both because I can't be bothered and also for meta-RP.))
If I decided right now to take the Gruen and change them all to have 3 heads, I don't think anyone would care because they're pretty much exclusively my followers. If I took the humans when they first came out and tried the same thing, I'm sure it would spark debates.
Spoiler: Lawmode, 1 tick (click to show/hide)Yes it is a threat.
107.98: Did Fusil threaten Ghizher? (1-0)
+1/Yes from Malakath
"A certain proposal doesn't allow me to say what I would like to. Tykki, could you make what I am trying to say more clear?"Clearly a reference to the proposal that made threats a crime, as I believe there is no other one that could be applied in this context, meaning that this is an admittance of his intention to threaten me.
I don't think we should be punishing Fusil for making threats. It's what he does, and he hasn't caused any harm doing it, other than bruised egos and minor annoyance.
Indeed, the only time I can recall, at least since my manifestation, of him following through with a threat was when I actually urged him to shoot me. That, quite literally, hurt him more than it hurt me.
Indeed, taking the significant step of sealing him away for just being annoying is ridiculously excessive, akin to razing a building to destroy an insect colony inside.
I would like to think that we, as gods, can be above pettiness, but perhaps I'm wrong in that view.
Hail the pantheon((THE LIGHT IS YAOS REINCARNATION CONFIRMED))
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The line of Soul Protectors has been discontinued in favor of Soul Armor.That's Soul Armour with a 'u'. You don't spell Humans "umans", do you?
Frost Weed does not affect Essence. (Seriously? :P)I also tested the effects of traditional healing potions on Essence. It wasn't explicitly stated that they didn't, therefore it is scientifically proven that they DO refill a god's Essence! I drink more traditional healing potions.
108.04: Fusil violated §4 of the Code of Conduct and forced mortals not to worship other gods. [RESOLVED T110]This trial is not related to murder, attempted murder, or assault. Therefore it should be resolved after the standard 2 Ticks.
I send 7 angel priests to the Ritan to spread my religion. I send the remaining 14 angel priests to give food to the hungry, clothe the poor, build homes for the homeless, and heal the sick, regardless of whether they worship me or not.
I ask the Gruen if they continue to do the above.
"If you continue to oppose me, I could always just give the directions of these portals to that Merman Emperor. Do you want him loose on the second planet as well? I am sure he has enough valuables to get an army through."Additionally, he may have yet another Tick added to his sentence if we agree that threat by proxy still counts as a threat:
"A certain proposal doesn't allow me to say what I would like to. Tykki, could you make what I am trying to say more clear?"
108.04: Fusil violated §4 of the Code of Conduct and forced mortals not to worship other gods: Yes.
"I can now confirm this. I cannot so much as appear to A-S-H citizens to proclaim my existence, without very specific preparations that would break or risk breaking the Code of Conduct. By keeping them in the dark, Fusil is indeed forcing mortals not to worship other Gods."
Cim casts Present Evidence.
I think you're on the right track when it comes down to protecting your investment, but we clearly stated that any threatg made will seal you away for one tick.108.04: Fusil violated §4 of the Code of Conduct and forced mortals not to worship other gods: Yes.
"I can now confirm this. I cannot so much as appear to A-S-H citizens to proclaim my existence, without very specific preparations that would break or risk breaking the Code of Conduct. By keeping them in the dark, Fusil is indeed forcing mortals not to worship other Gods."
Cim casts Present Evidence.
You can't say he's forcing them not to worship other gods without defining what "forcing" actually means.
I don't particularly want the Turonni worshipping other gods, because I'm the only one who has invested Essence into them. Why should other gods benefit from my efforts? I took steps to turn away Malakath's "missionaries", but does that mean I'm forcing them not to worship another god? No, I'm protecting my investment. You other gods may see this differently.
I'd like to point out that the use of the word "forcing" in the context of the article is as a verb, and further contextualises it as an action on the mortals: "Forcing mortals not to worship other gods", I read that as restraining them, the mortals, from worshiping other gods through excessive means. I would not consider taking action to stop the other gods from proselytising to be forcing mortals not to worship other gods, more forcing other gods tofuck right offkeep away from your efforts.
Further to this, is there actually any set punishment for the breaking the Code of Conduct? If not, what's the point in saying whether or not Fusil has broken them, if the punishment is going to be either completely arbitrary, or non-existent?
I think you're on the right track when it comes down to protecting your investment, but we clearly stated that any threatg made will seal you away for one tick.
"Removing options that would otherwise be given to them, until only one remains, is forcing. By definition, it is the removal of free choice. In preventing mortals from hearing about Gods besides Fusil, he is not giving them the freedom of worship §3 and §4 enforce in both spirit and letter."
"We did discuss standardized sanctions/punishments a long time ago, but we ended up deciding on tailored sanctions for every crime decided at the time of conviction. Fusil being sealed away for one Tick for threatening is a specific rule created afterwards."
Tick 109: GleeJoy!There are herds of Telestriders, if you are looking for a challenge.
Raptil:
"Where might we find interesting monsters to hunt?"
"Is there a way of hunting Pain Moles without comical hammers?"
108.00: Remove religion favoritism (?) (1-0)
+1 from Raptil
((Also OOC reasons I forgot to mention last time, Stirk being punished for RP'ing the way he has for a long, long time, which is silly, bordering on the bullshit))((If you RP an annoying character, expect others to RP their characters being annoyed.))
He's not forcing mortals not to worship them though, he's forcing other gods to be unable to show his creations that they exist. It may be against the spirit of the law, but not the letter."Did you not listen? It does break the letter of the law."
Why are we suddenly so interested in punishing Fusil? Since my manifestation, I've received multiple threats from multiple gods telling me to stay away from them and their creations, you included, Cim. By your definition, removing free choice from mortals to worship or not worship a particular god, yet this is the first and only time I've seen anyone invoke the Code of Conduct to punish another god. Your selective application is worrying, god of law."Has any God actually forced you to stay away? No, they have only expressed how much they would not like you to act on their assets. If you truly want, it is definitely possible for you to try and convert my followers, even though that may not end well for you. As for invoking the Code of Conduct, it is so very lenient there has not been many times it could be used. If you look through the Council records, you can find my much more strict proposal for the Code of Conduct. This is not so much selective application, but one of the few times it can be applied at all."
((Indeed, but to be forced not to play a tick everytime you RP the way you've RP'ed the entire game? Bit harsh))((Also OOC reasons I forgot to mention last time, Stirk being punished for RP'ing the way he has for a long, long time, which is silly, bordering on the bullshit))((If you RP an annoying character, expect others to RP their characters being annoyed.))
He's not forcing mortals not to worship them though, he's forcing other gods to be unable to show his creations that they exist. It may be against the spirit of the law, but not the letter.
"Did you not listen? It does break the letter of the law.[/color]"
Why are we suddenly so interested in punishing Fusil? Since my manifestation, I've received multiple threats from multiple gods telling me to stay away from them and their creations, you included, Cim. By your definition, removing free choice from mortals to worship or not worship a particular god, yet this is the first and only time I've seen anyone invoke the Code of Conduct to punish another god. Your selective application is worrying, god of law.
"Has any God actually forced you to stay away? No, they have only expressed how much they would not like you to act on their assets. If you truly want, it is definitely possible for you to try and convert my followers, even though that may not end well for you. As for invoking the Code of Conduct, it is so very lenient there has not been many times it could be used. If you look through the Council records, you can find my much more strict proposal for the Code of Conduct. This is not so much selective application, but one of the few times it can be applied at all."
I̵ àm ͡b̴ac͜k.̛ Leśs ͟s͞o͝ fo͜r ̛dec̡re͡ase ̷of nons̵e̸nse͟ in t̶hé ̀counc͟i͝l҉,̴ ͘as͘ ́th̴a͝t̶ i͞s ͘n̴ot̵ a thiņg̵ t́h͠a̶t͟ ̨ha͝ppéned̷,͘ an͝d ̀mo͘re s͡o b̀eca͟u̷s҉e͠ a̢ di͝str̸ac҉ti̴ǫn t̵ha̵t ͠a͜nge͞r̵e̴d ̵me̴ en͢ough ̛t́o ͝i͢gn̵or̨e ̛a̡ll els͢e̡ ̶p͞róv̛e̢d͝ u͠n̶ţru̕e.͢ I͜'͏ll̵ use ̧this m͞o̕me͢n̴t̵ ͢of c͏l͝arity̢,͢ as I ̴f̶e̵ar ͞c͠ur͏ent͘ ͜a̡c̢t҉io͏ņs ̕ar͢e͏ ̴mo̧v͢i͟n͏g ͡me̷ rage͏wa͝r͞ds ag̷a̧i̷n.̧
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D̨r̡ug͞s ͜nonsęns̨e: I͢f̸ a ҉god̶ ̶wi͜şhes t͠he̴ir foll͜ow͡ers to ͝inḑuce ̸i͢n͞ àd͏ic͜t̛i̶ve an͝d ̸h͝armf͝ull̛ ͠mat͡eriàls̴, it̕ ̡is̷ t͟he͘ir c̴h̕o͏ice ̶an͞d ͠t̸hey wi̡l̴l ͘ha̕ve ̧o̵nl̵y͢ t̛h̷eir ͘retar͟dation͝ ̴to͝ b͘l̴áme ̀la̵te̡r͏.̕ P̛u̷shi̧ng̡ ̴t͟h̕e̕ substa̶ǹcè ̢to̴ ͞o͘ţh͡e҉r ͘pe̸opl͠e is s͏omwhe͢re b́etwe҉én̶ b̸l̀und҉er ̶and͡ ҉a̵s͢sa̵ult.̵ ̴Us̀i͡ng my͝s͏t́i̢c ̸snow̸ ͘as͏ e͜x͡cuse͞ ís͘ i̛n͘su͜lti̡ńg,̨ ̵as̀ if̸ you͡ w̵a̷nt̀e҉d ͝t͢o̧ ͝d͠ea̕l̕ with it,̛ ̨y͏ou ̸wou̢ld́ ͝just̢ s͟t̷op͘ ̕it͘ fr̛om ͟s̶n̵o͠w̛i̛ng.̴
Fus͜i̵l ̀B͞S: F̛u͘s͠i͜l̡ ̸wa̶s̶ ͜i͞n͡ fu̶l̡l̶ righ̨t̸ to̷ re̛f̴us͘e̷ ͘a̛c͝c͝c҉e͞s̕s t̕o dr̶ug̵ de͜a͜l͝e͞r̶s͟, ̧h̀is ͠wórshi͠p̸ȩrs̴ ̛l͘óo͞k̕ ͢up t͡o ̡h̢i̷m f̀o̷r̨ ͏g͢u̡id̕a̵n͠c̡e i̴n ́s̨u̴ch̨ ͢ma̕t̡e͞r̀s, ̀hȩ ̴ìs n̡o ͡mo̢re ̛t͠o bl͜ame̵ tḩan̡ ̕a̛ ͏k̶i͘ǹg̸ p̴r̀o͞t̡ec͜tíǹg h̢i̢s p̵eople.̢ ̶I ͟am ͝f̨ár mor͟e a̕l͞a̸rm͏e͠d҉ by ͢hi̴s̴ ábi̢l͜ity t͜o h̵i̸de ̨s̢ealed ͢god͢s̶ f͟rom͜ th̶e̛ ҉co̵u͞n̕c͝íl i͘tse̶l̀f̵. I ̡a̡m ̸ab͡so̸lutel͡y ͏a͏m͡a͢z̛ed͡,̕ b̧y̢ ̡w̵hic̕h͏ I̢ ͏m͠e̶a̕n͢ ̛h͘ơr̡endu̴osl̛y,҉ abs͢urd͠ly d̵issapoi͟n̴ted ̕in ͞the̴ wh͟o͝l͝e c̷ir͢c҉u͟s͠ ̴curent͡l͠y ̶h̛app̨e̢ning̕ aba͠u͠t̀ ̡we̵t̴h͘er͡ ͟o̸r ̡n͠ot̶ F̕u̶si͢l ̷th͘re͜ate̢ņe̡d̛ s̕om̢on̡e͘, wh̡en sleep͝ing ͟g̨o̸ds ͘ḑissap͘ea̴re̴d ̕allto̧get͘h̀er͠. F̶us̸i͘l̵ ́ma͝y hąv͞e d̡e̸v͠oúre͠d ͘them ͠wh̢ól͠e,҉ or t͢ós̛se̡d th̵em i̵ǹt͘ǫ the ͞v͘o͜íd̶, ͡yet nobo͏dy ̕c̸a̢re̢s. ́I̧ ͟am s̛a͠ddene͠d҉ ̶by m҉y̕ la͡c̷k of su͡rpr̛is̢e͘ ͡a̴b̕a̸ut ̨t̸hi̸s.͠
M͏al̶k͝a̧t͢h:̴ ͠I͞ d͟o͏ ̢n̸o͟t́ h҉a͠ve ļu̷ngs͝ w͢ith w͜h̛i͝çh to smoke͝ tha͏t͡, ̕my͏ ͢m̴in̸d is̨ ͜b̨eyond ͘suçh ҉i͝n͡f̕l̡ųe͘nc̢e͏s ąn͜yway͡s ̕a҉nd̸ wh̴y ̀w̸ou̸l҉d ̧Í ̀ẃant to҉ ͞c͞o҉ns̕ume a d̛ru̧g̸ ͡t͝h͡a̛t ̷d҉e͞c͞reas̸e̕s͞ ́inte͢l̕igen̛c̸e ̵iń ̨t͠he ̛f̶i͞rs͏t͏ ̨p͜l̷ace?
P͠or̶t̵a̛ls̕:̸ ́C͠o͟ngr̛a҉ǵulat̛i͏ons, in ̕a sįn̷gl̀e͡ d͏ay ̸y̶ou h̨a̷ve ̶raze̕d e͞f͝fo͏rts ̨of͡ ̧a͞ll͜ ͘m̵e̶r͡c̴ḩant͞s ̢that d̡o͡ ̀no҉t̴ w͟oŕshi̷p͝ a partic҉ul̴ar ͢god.̶
Ghizhe͠r:͡ ̸W̕el̸come ̶to̵ the ͘còu̶n͢c͞i͜l͞. T͢r̵y̸ t̴o͢ ̛avo̶id͜ th̴e̸ ͞d̀eb̛r̶i͝,͟ t͠he̛r̴e a̛re plen̛t̢y͘ of ͝i̷t͏ ͞in ̢a͟n͠y tr̡a͟i͏n̵wre͞ck͘.͏
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((IDK, is it? I mean giving him cookies didn't work so the gods got annoyed and are now relying on punishment.))((Indeed, but to be forced not to play a tick everytime you RP the way you've RP'ed the entire game? Bit harsh))((Also OOC reasons I forgot to mention last time, Stirk being punished for RP'ing the way he has for a long, long time, which is silly, bordering on the bullshit))((If you RP an annoying character, expect others to RP their characters being annoyed.))
((But who is it punishing, Fusil or Stirk? If, in being sealed away, nobody can do anything to diminish Fusil's influence, what's the point? Even then, Fusil will be unsealed after a Tick, so he can act against someone quite reasonably in that instance. Stirk is the one being punished here, for RP'ing a dickhead character, which, I repeat, is bullshit))((IDK, is it? I mean giving him cookies didn't work so the gods got annoyed and are now relying on punishment.))((Indeed, but to be forced not to play a tick everytime you RP the way you've RP'ed the entire game? Bit harsh))((Also OOC reasons I forgot to mention last time, Stirk being punished for RP'ing the way he has for a long, long time, which is silly, bordering on the bullshit))((If you RP an annoying character, expect others to RP their characters being annoyed.))
((Also OOC reasons I forgot to mention last time, Stirk being punished for RP'ing the way he has for a long, long time, which is silly, bordering on the bullshit))
I̵ àm ͡b̴ac͜k.̛ Leśs ͟s͞o͝ fo͜r ̛dec̡re͡ase ̷of nons̵e̸nse͟ in t̶hé ̀counc͟i͝l҉,̴ ͘as͘ ́th̴a͝t̶ i͞s ͘n̴ot̵ a thiņg̵ t́h͠a̶t͟ ̨ha͝ppéned̷,͘ an͝d ̀mo͘re s͡o b̀eca͟u̷s҉e͠ a̢ di͝str̸ac҉ti̴ǫn t̵ha̵t ͠a͜nge͞r̵e̴d ̵me̴ en͢ough ̛t́o ͝i͢gn̵or̨e ̛a̡ll els͢e̡ ̶p͞róv̛e̢d͝ u͠n̶ţru̕e.͢ I͜'͏ll̵ use ̧this m͞o̕me͢n̴t̵ ͢of c͏l͝arity̢,͢ as I ̴f̶e̵ar ͞c͠ur͏ent͘ ͜a̡c̢t҉io͏ņs ̕ar͢e͏ ̴mo̧v͢i͟n͏g ͡me̷ rage͏wa͝r͞ds ag̷a̧i̷n.̧
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D̨r̡ug͞s ͜nonsęns̨e: I͢f̸ a ҉god̶ ̶wi͜şhes t͠he̴ir foll͜ow͡ers to ͝inḑuce ̸i͢n͞ àd͏ic͜t̛i̶ve an͝d ̸h͝armf͝ull̛ ͠mat͡eriàls̴, it̕ ̡is̷ t͟he͘ir c̴h̕o͏ice ̶an͞d ͠t̸hey wi̡l̴l ͘ha̕ve ̧o̵nl̵y͢ t̛h̷eir ͘retar͟dation͝ ̴to͝ b͘l̴áme ̀la̵te̡r͏.̕ P̛u̷shi̧ng̡ ̴t͟h̕e̕ substa̶ǹcè ̢to̴ ͞o͘ţh͡e҉r ͘pe̸opl͠e is s͏omwhe͢re b́etwe҉én̶ b̸l̀und҉er ̶and͡ ҉a̵s͢sa̵ult.̵ ̴Us̀i͡ng my͝s͏t́i̢c ̸snow̸ ͘as͏ e͜x͡cuse͞ ís͘ i̛n͘su͜lti̡ńg,̨ ̵as̀ if̸ you͡ w̵a̷nt̀e҉d ͝t͢o̧ ͝d͠ea̕l̕ with it,̛ ̨y͏ou ̸wou̢ld́ ͝just̢ s͟t̷op͘ ̕it͘ fr̛om ͟s̶n̵o͠w̛i̛ng.̴
Fus͜i̵l ̀B͞S: F̛u͘s͠i͜l̡ ̸wa̶s̶ ͜i͞n͡ fu̶l̡l̶ righ̨t̸ to̷ re̛f̴us͘e̷ ͘a̛c͝c͝c҉e͞s̕s t̕o dr̶ug̵ de͜a͜l͝e͞r̶s͟, ̧h̀is ͠wórshi͠p̸ȩrs̴ ̛l͘óo͞k̕ ͢up t͡o ̡h̢i̷m f̀o̷r̨ ͏g͢u̡id̕a̵n͠c̡e i̴n ́s̨u̴ch̨ ͢ma̕t̡e͞r̀s, ̀hȩ ̴ìs n̡o ͡mo̢re ̛t͠o bl͜ame̵ tḩan̡ ̕a̛ ͏k̶i͘ǹg̸ p̴r̀o͞t̡ec͜tíǹg h̢i̢s p̵eople.̢ ̶I ͟am ͝f̨ár mor͟e a̕l͞a̸rm͏e͠d҉ by ͢hi̴s̴ ábi̢l͜ity t͜o h̵i̸de ̨s̢ealed ͢god͢s̶ f͟rom͜ th̶e̛ ҉co̵u͞n̕c͝íl i͘tse̶l̀f̵. I ̡a̡m ̸ab͡so̸lutel͡y ͏a͏m͡a͢z̛ed͡,̕ b̧y̢ ̡w̵hic̕h͏ I̢ ͏m͠e̶a̕n͢ ̛h͘ơr̡endu̴osl̛y,҉ abs͢urd͠ly d̵issapoi͟n̴ted ̕in ͞the̴ wh͟o͝l͝e c̷ir͢c҉u͟s͠ ̴curent͡l͠y ̶h̛app̨e̢ning̕ aba͠u͠t̀ ̡we̵t̴h͘er͡ ͟o̸r ̡n͠ot̶ F̕u̶si͢l ̷th͘re͜ate̢ņe̡d̛ s̕om̢on̡e͘, wh̡en sleep͝ing ͟g̨o̸ds ͘ḑissap͘ea̴re̴d ̕allto̧get͘h̀er͠. F̶us̸i͘l̵ ́ma͝y hąv͞e d̡e̸v͠oúre͠d ͘them ͠wh̢ól͠e,҉ or t͢ós̛se̡d th̵em i̵ǹt͘ǫ the ͞v͘o͜íd̶, ͡yet nobo͏dy ̕c̸a̢re̢s. ́I̧ ͟am s̛a͠ddene͠d҉ ̶by m҉y̕ la͡c̷k of su͡rpr̛is̢e͘ ͡a̴b̕a̸ut ̨t̸hi̸s.͠
M͏al̶k͝a̧t͢h:̴ ͠I͞ d͟o͏ ̢n̸o͟t́ h҉a͠ve ļu̷ngs͝ w͢ith w͜h̛i͝çh to smoke͝ tha͏t͡, ̕my͏ ͢m̴in̸d is̨ ͜b̨eyond ͘suçh ҉i͝n͡f̕l̡ųe͘nc̢e͏s ąn͜yway͡s ̕a҉nd̸ wh̴y ̀w̸ou̸l҉d ̧Í ̀ẃant to҉ ͞c͞o҉ns̕ume a d̛ru̧g̸ ͡t͝h͡a̛t ̷d҉e͞c͞reas̸e̕s͞ ́inte͢l̕igen̛c̸e ̵iń ̨t͠he ̛f̶i͞rs͏t͏ ̨p͜l̷ace?
P͠or̶t̵a̛ls̕:̸ ́C͠o͟ngr̛a҉ǵulat̛i͏ons, in ̕a sįn̷gl̀e͡ d͏ay ̸y̶ou h̨a̷ve ̶raze̕d e͞f͝fo͏rts ̨of͡ ̧a͞ll͜ ͘m̵e̶r͡c̴ḩant͞s ̢that d̡o͡ ̀no҉t̴ w͟oŕshi̷p͝ a partic҉ul̴ar ͢god.̶
Ghizhe͠r:͡ ̸W̕el̸come ̶to̵ the ͘còu̶n͢c͞i͜l͞. T͢r̵y̸ t̴o͢ ̛avo̶id͜ th̴e̸ ͞d̀eb̛r̶i͝,͟ t͠he̛r̴e a̛re plen̛t̢y͘ of ͝i̷t͏ ͞in ̢a͟n͠y tr̡a͟i͏n̵wre͞ck͘.͏
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Quote((Also OOC reasons I forgot to mention last time, Stirk being punished for RP'ing the way he has for a long, long time, which is silly, bordering on the bullshit))
((Eh, I am fine with it. No need to argue for my sake.))
Quote((Also OOC reasons I forgot to mention last time, Stirk being punished for RP'ing the way he has for a long, long time, which is silly, bordering on the bullshit))
((Eh, I am fine with it. No need to argue for my sake.))
((I'm not though :P))
The deities sealed by Fusil could not be located even by the Council."...."
The deities sealed by Fusil could not be located even by the Council."...."
Propose Fusil and all his angel`s minds are read to see what he has done with the gods.
I did listen. Unfortunately, despite you being god of law, it isn't your opinion that governs our behaviour. It's the wording of the law itself, which is that you can't force mortals not to worship. It says nothing of forcing gods, which is what Fusil is doing. Has he specifically told the members of the ASH races they can't worship other gods? Has he punished any for doing so?"Indirectly, yes, as previously discussed. Directly, I cannot tell because I cannot even approach the mortals."
I fail to see the difference in these threats and what Fusil has done. If I were to make an attempt to convert your, or any other god's follower's, as you say they would likely act against me. This is encouraging me to stay away, much like what Fusil has done with the ASH cities. There is no difference, beyond Fusil's pro-activity in keeping other gods away."Encouraging you to stay away, yes. But you still can choose to meddle with other Gods, can you not? That is the difference. An action having unwanted consequences does not make it impossible."
Propose Fusil and all his angel`s minds are read to see what he has done with the gods."I see no reason not to." Support.
I did listen. Unfortunately, despite you being god of law, it isn't your opinion that governs our behaviour. It's the wording of the law itself, which is that you can't force mortals not to worship. It says nothing of forcing gods, which is what Fusil is doing. Has he specifically told the members of the ASH races they can't worship other gods? Has he punished any for doing so?"Indirectly, yes, as previously discussed. Directly, I cannot tell because I cannot even approach the mortals."
I fail to see the difference in these threats and what Fusil has done. If I were to make an attempt to convert your, or any other god's follower's, as you say they would likely act against me. This is encouraging me to stay away, much like what Fusil has done with the ASH cities. There is no difference, beyond Fusil's pro-activity in keeping other gods away."Encouraging you to stay away, yes. But you still can choose to meddle with other Gods, can you not? That is the difference. An action having unwanted consequences does not make it impossible."
I continue to encourage an increased reproduction rate for the gasbags and artificially increase their number by 300. I remind them that a great reward awaits. I also teach them various mortal concepts, such as war and violence, reminding them to never use them against each other. I also teach them about the structure of the universe, the location of planets and their population.
QuoteI continue to encourage an increased reproduction rate for the gasbags and artificially increase their number by 300. I remind them that a great reward awaits. I also teach them various mortal concepts, such as war and violence, reminding them to never use them against each other. I also teach them about the structure of the universe, the location of planets and their population.
(You could pretty easily propagate them to far more then 300 just by using a little bit of essence. Generally, when propagating, it is best to state the essence amount you want to use instead of a target number. Here, even one essence would make well over 300 creatures. For a larger amount, like 5 or even 10, you could have millions)
"Why in all that is cold, are people not reacting to the fact that Fusil has possible murdered all the sleeping gods!?"
"Why in all that is cold, are people not reacting to the fact that Fusil has possible murdered all the sleeping gods!?"
Spread Gruen Spores to all planets, astroids, gas giants, etc that don't already have them.
Good opportunity to see just how adaptable the Gruen are. I'm mostly curious about the gas giants.
"Meylessa, Why don't you just give the Flagellants and your Followers the ability to feel Total Pleasure from Pain like you do, That way they'll be happier and be reminded of your power every time they cut themselves?""I am almost entirely sure they already feel pleasure when they hurt themselves, but if that is not the case, I'll make them feel ultimate pleasure when they feel pain"
"Why don't you make them feel pleasure proportional to the pain they feel? As it is, even mere small amounts of pain will grant them ultimate pleasure. I was also wondering if I can send some priests to teach your people blood magic - and only do that - so they can more easily heal themselves after torture sessions.""Meylessa, Why don't you just give the Flagellants and your Followers the ability to feel Total Pleasure from Pain like you do, That way they'll be happier and be reminded of your power every time they cut themselves?""I am almost entirely sure they already feel pleasure when they hurt themselves, but if that is not the case, I'll make them feel ultimate pleasure when they feel pain"
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"It seems like we did in fact have a rule against forcing mortals to not worship other gods. I continue my support for the proposal for that blatant breaking of the rule. Before I continue, please answer this scenario: if a man is breathing air and a gunman puts a gun to the breathing man's head and says "keep breathing or I'll shoot you", would the gunman be forcing the other man to breathe air?"
Quote(Accents acute will be switched to accents grave later)((My apologies, this was actually a typo. The only thing changing about the name is its pronunciation, sorry. Didn't want to create extra work, especially over a mistake.))
"I propose all these drugs be burned."
Quote(Accents acute will be switched to accents grave later)((My apologies, this was actually a typo. The only thing changing about the name is its pronunciation, sorry. Didn't want to create extra work, especially over a mistake.))
"I propose all these drugs be burned."
"I'm sorry Grauel, But I don't want the Gruen slaughtering the Frost Kobolds, Could you not spread them to Nikjol? Also, What would happen if a Gruen was fed nothing but Frost Weed and Mystic Dust his entire life? I assume that we could use the Death Battle Plane to test it, If you so wished. Also, I'm totally OK with other Deities spreading their Religions among my Followers, As Long as they don't ditch me. Also, Ghizer, Doesn't Grauel's spreading spores over Gas Giants mean that your Gasbags will have some Competition?"
OPPOSED!
"I did not think of this, but that sounds like a good idea. I will do this. You are free to teach the Flagellants blood magic, but I assume that your followers will not survive the pain induced by all of the traps in their cities, so let them be careful.""Why don't you make them feel pleasure proportional to the pain they feel? As it is, even mere small amounts of pain will grant them ultimate pleasure. I was also wondering if I can send some priests to teach your people blood magic - and only do that - so they can more easily heal themselves after torture sessions.""Meylessa, Why don't you just give the Flagellants and your Followers the ability to feel Total Pleasure from Pain like you do, That way they'll be happier and be reminded of your power every time they cut themselves?""I am almost entirely sure they already feel pleasure when they hurt themselves, but if that is not the case, I'll make them feel ultimate pleasure when they feel pain"
"I'm sorry Grauel, But I don't want the Gruen slaughtering the Frost Kobolds, Could you not spread them to Nikjol? Also, What would happen if a Gruen was fed nothing but Frost Weed and Mystic Dust his entire life? I assume that we could use the Death Battle Plane to test it, If you so wished. Also, I'm totally OK with other Deities spreading their Religions among my Followers, As Long as they don't ditch me. Also, Ghizer, Doesn't Grauel's spreading spores over Gas Giants mean that your Gasbags will have some Competition?"
The portals you made along with the catacombs make it a pretty sure thing that Gruen and other species will make it over there eventually regardless of my involvement. If you really don't want any Gruen coming over, I'll concede about not directly spreading spores if only because I did not contribute to the building of your planet. That said, it's really only a matter of time before some of the other species make it over there anyway.
The Gruen probably wouldn't be too affected by the Frost Weed and Mystic Dust. If it caused any undesirable effects though, they'd probably just stop eating it in favor of something else. They can, after all, survive off a diet consisting entirely of dirt and rocks.
Regarding the Gas Giants, those were paid for by the Council and I don't feel as though anyone has a right to tell me not to spread my species to any place created by the Council or any place I invested essence into making. Someone tried that before and it didn't go down well for them.
Don't spread the Gruen to that Ice Planet directly. They are still allowed to use personal methods to go there though as I do not force restrictions on my own followers.
Quote(Accents acute will be switched to accents grave later)((My apologies, this was actually a typo. The only thing changing about the name is its pronunciation, sorry. Didn't want to create extra work, especially over a mistake.))
"I propose all these drugs be burned."
Oppose tooQuote(Accents acute will be switched to accents grave later)((My apologies, this was actually a typo. The only thing changing about the name is its pronunciation, sorry. Didn't want to create extra work, especially over a mistake.))
"I propose all these drugs be burned."
Spread Gruen Spores to all planets, astroids, gas giants, etc that don't already have them.
Good opportunity to see just how adaptable the Gruen are. I'm mostly curious about the gas giants.
"I'm sorry Grauel, But I don't want the Gruen slaughtering the Frost Kobolds, Could you not spread them to Nikjol? Also, What would happen if a Gruen was fed nothing but Frost Weed and Mystic Dust his entire life? I assume that we could use the Death Battle Plane to test it, If you so wished. Also, I'm totally OK with other Deities spreading their Religions among my Followers, As Long as they don't ditch me. Also, Ghizer, Doesn't Grauel's spreading spores over Gas Giants mean that your Gasbags will have some Competition?"
KI'Tork creates Happy Seeds. Happy Seeds grow on small purple bushes by the thousands and whenever they are consumed they put the User to sleep where their soul experiences Raw, Endless Pleasure for a week. Whenever the User wakes up they'll have grown More Satisfied with life in General, Be inclined to be more Faithful towards their chosen Deity along with being more Peaceful in their Mind. Happy Seeds are not addictive but the Mental Effects do slowly grow over time with repeated use. Happy Seed Bushes grow wherever there are Kitchen Spirits and Depressed Mortals.
KI'Tork spreads Happy Seeds throughout Every World that has a substantial Population of depressed Mortals and Meofisp Worshipers.
"Are you perhaps looking to get on the good side of the almighty Arms-Bearer Fortuna? Let's say you are, for the sake of argument. You will always be nothing more than a gnat to be either ignored or squashed at his leisure. That's how his mind works. It is obvious, it is plain. And it is dangerous. This is my opinion, borne of bias and a long existence, and it is unlikely to change."
"The Portals only go between Slytha and Keshan, Not Nikjol. As for the Gas Giants, I was merely informing Ghizer of the Possible Implications, And yes, Within a few Ticks there shall be new species on Nikjol, I just want to ensure that the Frost Kobolds are adequately prepared to defend themselves when they do. I'd like to apologize for any Offence I may have caused."
KI'Tork sends each of Grauel's Angels and Priests a Gift Basket of Jelly Rolls along with sending Grauel himself a Gift Basket as large as a large sized Village.
"Also, What Catacombs were you referring to?"
By all means, Grauel, Do Spread those seeds to D'rhool, I would Love to see the result! I hope they can fly and have no need to breathe... Or eat.
As for the problem of competition, I don't fear anything, as the Gasbags are non solid and need no sustenance, I see no way they could harm my specie, as for territory, gas giants are ridiculously massive, as their name imply, meaning that space will not be a problem. Even if space was limited, my specie could theorically occupy the same space as the Gruen, as they are made of gas. I do hope our creations will learn to cohabit in peace and work together, should they survive this extremely hostilelandscapelack of landscape.
I must also express my happiness at the creation of the happy seed and oppose The burning of all drugs. Should this proposition pass, I will have to consider all those who voted in it's favor as enemies, as this is in direct opposition to my interests.
"Even though you have a point, Fortuna, Fusil should still be punished for threatening to kill anyone he deems weak. If you can come up with a better punishment, say it."
"I think Fusil should be erased for being an existential threat to the divine. A category he does not deserve to be included in. I have seen the power of Fusil. I have seen the weakness of the Council, and the sheer apathy of the divine. Remember that."
Azem sighs.
"If not for my beloved mortal children, I probably would've thrown myself onto the spear of Fusil long before your birth, youngling."
In this particular instance, breathing is required to sustain life. Worship isn't."So it is not right to force someone to worship you even if they were already doing that. In that case, I propose that Fusil broke Part III of Anath's Code of Conduct: Thou Shall Not Force Mortals To Worship You. He is forcing his policy of "religious purity" onto A-S-H cities. This policy is described as "thou must worship Fusil and only Fusil". (Paraphrasing.) That first part - "thou must worship Fusil" - means that he is forcing the Armu, Seppo, and Hovori to worship him, though they would do so anyway."
In this particular instance, breathing is required to sustain life. Worship isn't."So it is not right to force someone to worship you even if they were already doing that. In that case, I propose that Fusil broke Part III of Anath's Code of Conduct: Thou Shall Not Force Mortals To Worship You. He is forcing his policy of "religious purity" onto A-S-H cities. This policy is described as "thou must worship Fusil and only Fusil". (Paraphrasing.) That first part - "thou must worship Fusil" - means that he is forcing the Armu, Seppo, and Hovori to worship him, though they would do so anyway."
"I propose we repeal 106.03. Death seems a punishment too severe for Fusil."Oppose!!
"I propose we repeal 106.03. Death seems a punishment too severe for Fusil."
I Oppose this. Your case is weak, Malakath. I fully expect the Turonni to worship me. That's kind of why I created them, don't you think?"You can expect them to worship you but you can't force them to do so. To force them into worshipping you - regardless of whether you created them or not - is against the Code of Conduct."
"Why is it so hard for this council to just punish wrongdoers for once?"Quote"I propose we repeal 106.03. Death seems a punishment too severe for Fusil."
SUPPORT!
"He'll still be imprisoned for his actions, just not within the god-harming star. Moreover, we (the Council) may decide on stricter punishments for breaking certain parts of the Code of Conduct.""Why is it so hard for this council to just punish wrongdoers for once?"Quote"I propose we repeal 106.03. Death seems a punishment too severe for Fusil."
SUPPORT!
Oppose.Quote"I propose we repeal 106.03. Death seems a punishment too severe for Fusil."Oppose!!
"I don't think that's the smartest idea, KI`Tork. Something tells me Fusil wont be happy with us..."Quote"I propose we repeal 106.03. Death seems a punishment too severe for Fusil."
SUPPORT!
Oppose.Quote"I propose we repeal 106.03. Death seems a punishment too severe for Fusil."Oppose!!"I don't think that's the smartest idea, KI`Tork. Something tells me Fusil wont be happy with us..."Quote"I propose we repeal 106.03. Death seems a punishment too severe for Fusil."
SUPPORT!
Some Gruen do not need to eat but not all of them. Some Gruen can fly or float but not all of them. Some Gruen do not need to breathe but not all of them.
I'm confident the Gruen can survive in that location. The question I have is if Gruen Spores can develop in that location. If not, it wouldn't be the first time I've made modifications to my species. I do it more than any other god.
I'm not trying to drive your species out of the gas giants though. My interest is primarily is further promoting my own species and continuing to make them as adaptable as possible.
On 106.03, even though I must admit I would not be sad to learn the death of Fusil, considering his unfounded hostility towards me,I believe death should only be given to those who menace the integrity of our bubble, or threaten multiple god's existence by their actions."This describes Fusil."
QuoteOn 106.03, even though I must admit I would not be sad to learn the death of Fusil, considering his unfounded hostility towards me,I believe death should only be given to those who menace the integrity of our bubble, or threaten multiple god's existence by their actions."This describes Fusil."
"1. He assassinated (permanently killed)Yaos, God of Humans and Ambition with a stab from Tykki's (his strongest angel) Perma-kill sword.QuoteOn 106.03, even though I must admit I would not be sad to learn the death of Fusil, considering his unfounded hostility towards me,I believe death should only be given to those who menace the integrity of our bubble, or threaten multiple god's existence by their actions."This describes Fusil."
I will support his execution if we discover he caused harm to the sleeping gods. Do not believe I am on his side. I simply wish to avoid any undeserved death.
If you have any arguments in favor of his death, then please do tell me, and if I find them sufficient, then I will change my vote.
"1. He assassinated (permanently killed)Yaos, God of Humans and Ambition with a stab from Tykki's (his strongest angel) Perma-kill sword.QuoteOn 106.03, even though I must admit I would not be sad to learn the death of Fusil, considering his unfounded hostility towards me,I believe death should only be given to those who menace the integrity of our bubble, or threaten multiple god's existence by their actions."This describes Fusil."
I will support his execution if we discover he caused harm to the sleeping gods. Do not believe I am on his side. I simply wish to avoid any undeserved death.
If you have any arguments in favor of his death, then please do tell me, and if I find them sufficient, then I will change my vote.
2. He's a plain asshole.
I now realize that my reply appears to be quite sarcastic and aggressive, and for that, I must give my most sincere excuse. My sentiment is honest, I wish for both of our creation to coexist peacefully and don't expect yours to drive mine away. I was simply skeptical towards the ability of a physical specie to adapt to a non-solid environment. I again repeat my hope that both of our kind could cooperate in the future.
"1. He assassinated (permanently killed)Yaos, God of Humans and Ambition with a stab from Tykki's (his strongest angel) Perma-kill sword.
"Unfortunetly, Yaos' corpse came back as a void monster and we had to elimate the threat. Unfortunetly, the council was unable to get back on track to punish him.""1. He assassinated (permanently killed)Yaos, God of Humans and Ambition with a stab from Tykki's (his strongest angel) Perma-kill sword.
Was action taken at the time. If not, why wait until now to do so?
"Unfortunetly, Yaos' corpse came back as a void monster and we had to elimate the threat. Unfortunetly, the council was unable to get back on track to punish him.""1. He assassinated (permanently killed)Yaos, God of Humans and Ambition with a stab from Tykki's (his strongest angel) Perma-kill sword.
Was action taken at the time. If not, why wait until now to do so?
"1. He assassinated (permanently killed)Yaos, God of Humans and Ambition with a stab from Tykki's (his strongest angel) Perma-kill sword."If we were to believe that he were responsible for that death, then we would have to believe that he was responsible for every other one of Yaos' deaths as well - including the final one with the musket. Not only that, but we'd also have to try him for creating the Stone Men (which was well within his powers considering his Vindicos' existence) and thus being responsible for every megadeath they caused by razing cities." (See the spoiler here (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=144651.msg5880777;topicseen#msg5880777).)
I must also oppose Malakath's proposal to punish Fusil. I fail to see any reason to punish him for protecting his followers from preachers, as I have seen multiple other gods do the same without getting punished. It is common sense to expect your creation to worship you, and not some gods who had nothing to do in their birth."He not only prevented preachers from entering his cities - itself a crime against the spirit of the law - but he also forced people within them to give up worship of other gods and to instead worship him and him alone. You can expect your creations to worship you (as anticipation of their behaviour) but you cannot force them to worship you (as actively changing their behaviour). It is against the law. Moreover, simply treating your fully sapient creations purely as Essence-generators - not as people like you and I - is akin to owning them, thus treating them as slaves. Well-treated slaves, yes, but still owned slaves. I'm fairly certain Part IV of ACoC was added to prevent this from occurring."
"He not only prevented preachers from entering his cities - itself a crime against the spirit of the law - but he also forced people within them to give up worship of other gods and to instead worship him and him alone. You can expect your creations to worship you (as anticipation of their behaviour) but you cannot force them to worship you (as actively changing their behaviour). It is against the law. Moreover, simply treating your fully sapient creations purely as Essence-generators - not as people like you and I - is akin to owning them, thus treating them as slaves. Well-treated slaves, yes, but still owned slaves. I'm fairly certain Part IV of ACoC was added to prevent this from occurring."
The very concept of renouncing to your creator in favor of someone else makes absolutely no sense to me however"There are two reasons I can think of why someone's creator would stop worshipping their god primarily. (Primarily means they worship that god above all others. They might still worship their creator as their secondary god.) The first is if their god does needlessly cruel things to them and so they might turn to another god for protection. The second reason is that another god's spheres more align with an individual more than its creator. A Mountwyrm weaponsmith, for example, might choose Fusil as a primary due to its profession."
"TROLLOLFUSILCANTSEEYOUBUTICAN""This is a note that I got when I tried to move one of my missionaries into a Fusil-controlled city and my missionary was teleported outside into a barren field.
Quote from: Kilojoule Proton"TROLLOLFUSILCANTSEEYOUBUTICAN""This is a note that I got when I tried to move one of my missionaries into a Fusil-controlled city and my missionary was teleported outside into a barren field.
Obviously, this was done by Tykki under Fusil's command, which also breaks the council's rules.
I'd like to at long last propose convicting Fusil on his 6 murders of Yaos.
"There is no statute of limitations on murder.Quote from: Kilojoule Proton"TROLLOLFUSILCANTSEEYOUBUTICAN""This is a note that I got when I tried to move one of my missionaries into a Fusil-controlled city and my missionary was teleported outside into a barren field.
Obviously, this was done by Tykki under Fusil's command, which also breaks the council's rules.
I'd like to at long last propose convicting Fusil on his 6 murders of Yaos.
Statue of limitations? Surely it's been millenia since that occurred?
"There is no statute of limitations on murder.Quote from: Kilojoule Proton"TROLLOLFUSILCANTSEEYOUBUTICAN""This is a note that I got when I tried to move one of my missionaries into a Fusil-controlled city and my missionary was teleported outside into a barren field.
Obviously, this was done by Tykki under Fusil's command, which also breaks the council's rules.
I'd like to at long last propose convicting Fusil on his 6 murders of Yaos.
Statue of limitations? Surely it's been millenia since that occurred?
"I think this is fairly solid evidence that he was responsible for the murders. I support convicting him for 6 counts of murdering a deity."Quote from: Kilojoule Proton"TROLLOLFUSILCANTSEEYOUBUTICAN""This is a note that I got when I tried to move one of my missionaries into a Fusil-controlled city and my missionary was teleported outside into a barren field.
Obviously, this was done by Tykki under Fusil's command, which also breaks the council's rules.
I'd like to at long last propose convicting Fusil on his 6 murders of Yaos.
"There is no statute of limitations on murder."There's no statute of limitations period, but there's also the fact that time works different for us. In a single day, centuries might pass or a few mere hours. What's certain is that Yaos was killed in the mere equivalent of about 40 days ago and is thus not covered under our non-existent statute of limitations."
I would also like to point out that technically you can't be tried for the same crime twice. I also have issue with it being termed "murder" since Yaos came back, at least 5 times."Technically we don't have that law either. The intention was murder and the result was murder. Just because Yaos came back from the dead doesn't mean he didn't die. The last 5 attempts were even intentional in their attempt to make sure Yaos permanently died."
Suits me fine. Support this one and only proposal.(I think this auto-passes the proposal.)
Suits me fine. Support this one and only proposal.(I think this auto-passes the proposal.)
Can you not hear, Malakath? I oppose every proposal form this point on. This Council is being used to fulfill the petty needs of you and your ilk, and I refuse to take part in it further."You're refusing to take part in it further by...ensuring you take part in it further. That logic seems faulty."
Can you not hear, Malakath? I oppose every proposal form this point on. This Council is being used to fulfill the petty needs of you and your ilk, and I refuse to take part in it further."You're refusing to take part in it further by...ensuring you take part in it further. That logic seems faulty."
Tell me, beyond the protection the Council gives us from each other, what does it actually accomplish that an individual god can't do alone or in a pantheon?"An action passed by the Council is more powerful than an action passed by any individual or group of gods, regardless of how many are in support of the proposal or how many gods are in the outside group. It's also cheaper to perform actions as a Council proposal, I believe."
"An action passed by the Council is more powerful than an action passed by any individual or group of gods, regardless of how many are in support of the proposal or how many gods are in the outside group. It's also cheaper to perform actions as a Council proposal, I believe."
Not necessarily true. You get more for your money but groups or individuals willing and capable of investing enough essence can pull off identical effects."We could run an experiment. On the one hand, we have three gods create a ball that moves around in a circle perpetually. On the other, we have a proposal pass with three gods supporting and no gods opposing to create the same thing. In both instances, one god will attempt to push the balls away without using Essence. If Council proposals are stronger, it'll be more difficult to destabilise the second ball's orbit. Of course, we can't perform this experiment because Fortuna is auto-opposing every proposal."
Think of it more like getting a group discount on top of an business discount.
I wish that we choose once for all it's fate by proposing that we put an end to this council's existence.Oppose.
I have grown weary of hearing all of this whining and complaining about the council. I wish that we choose once for all it's fate by proposing that we put an end to this council's existence. Let us finally see if it's opponents really have the guts to kill it, or if it's supporter are as apathetic as some of us seems to believe.
"Perhaps we should do some research on the concept of godly councils before we destroy ours? For all we know destroying the Council means destroying the gods."
Lord Malakath checks the Divine Library for books about god councils, specifically related to what happens if they're destroyed.
"I am.""Perhaps we should do some research on the concept of godly councils before we destroy ours? For all we know destroying the Council means destroying the gods."
Lord Malakath checks the Divine Library for books about god councils, specifically related to what happens if they're destroyed.
I'd have thought you'd be against this outright, Malakath.
I wish that we choose once for all it's fate by proposing that we put an end to this council's existence.Oppose.
Ţh͡an̸k̶ ͡yo͠ư ͡Am̡at̛h͏et̡.̡ ̨Az͏ém, ͜y̶óu ҉s͢e̸èm to be̛ ̧a̵nn̵o̷y͡ęd͠ by͞ ͢apathy o̴f ҉gods̴,͏ ͞p̨e̢t̷tyn̛ȩs ̧o͜f̴ t҉he c̢oun͠çi̴l̡ ҉a͡ņd͏ ͡m͟ost ҉o͘f̸ al͝l,̵ ̵ņơb̨ódy̢ ͟t̨ellin̵g̢ Fu͏s͞il͏ to͏ sh͢u͝t̴ i͟t.͟ ҉So I̢ a̸s͝ḱ,͏ ͘w̵h́o ͡ar̀e̡ y̷òu to͠ ͏call̡ out ͢go͢d̛s͠ ͜on ́a͝pa̢thy͡ w̕h̴e͟n͢ ̡you ̀co͘ul͜dn̛'t̵ b̀e ̸b̨o͡th̛er͞ed̢ ̷tǫ e̶ve̢n try tó r͟ecov͠e̵r S̨a̵ph͡ira,͝ ͜w̕h͘o ͢a̢re͞ y̨o̕u̶ ͏to̡ ̕s̡pea̧k͟ o̷f ́p̴e͞t̴t͏ynès ẁh͟n ̕y̡o̧u ́o͠n̷ļy act͜ion in ̴l͜aśt̸ t̢ic͝k͠s wa͟s̷ ͝t̸o ͠r͜uin e͘c͝on̶om͞íe̡s͘ o͠f͡ t҉he̛ ͏wor͘l̸d ͠f͝or ҉no ͢re͠ason̴ ąt̸ all,͜ ͡and ̡why do͢ ̨you̶ r̀i̵dic͘ul͝e ̕w͏e̵áķeŕ ͡go̡ḑs ̵fo͡r̕ ͝ign̵o̷rin͏g͝ F̕u͜sil͢s̴ ̵th͡rea͏ts̀ ẁhe̢n͝ ́y̨o̡u̵ ̧do ex͜ac͘tl͠y ͘th̢e̸ sa̕me̴ ́wh͡il̨e ̷wi͝e͢l̛d̶in̶g ́p̧ów͝er͘ to ҉o̕p̕ose ̷hi̛m͡ ͡u̷nsu̧p̴or͠t̸èd̴? W͜h̕en҉ ̢yo͠u cļa͞im͞ som͝et͝h́ing to ̀be ͞w̵roņg͟,̨ ͢f̧ar ̵t̢oơ o͝f̨t̵e̶n ͢y̨o͢u̵ ar͠ȩ th͞e ̷w͢orst͝ ͞e̛xa̸m̢pl̕e҉ ͏of suc͘h. Y҉ou ͢clai͏m t̡o ̷be ti͜r̀e͜d. ͝Ưse th͜a̧t͡ ęss҉e͞ns̴ȩ ̢you ̴h͘a͟ve̢ ͏ac̀u͢m͞ul͜a̕te͝d ̀d̨oin͏g̶ fu͏ck͡ ̕a͠ļl ͜t̶o ̛c̵r͟e̢at̛e a guard͢ia͟n͠ ͞and ̨se͜a̸l ̕yo͟urs̀elf̸ un͜tìl͘ ͡su҉ch ͟ti͜meş ̨tha͢t̀ yoưr pe̡op͡le w̵oul̕d c̢a͏ll̕ ou͝t̨ t̕o y̛ou̷ ̵íf̧ ̶thìs͞ li͞fe ͜has b͏ècam͝e ̡to̡o ̢much for҉ y̢ou to b̕ea̛r̡.͝ ͘E̴ls̷e, get o̕f̢f̷ yo҉u̸r̨ ̕g̕o҉l͟de̢n ass͢ ͜a̸n̶d s͜tar͏t d̶oin͝g̨ s̢o͢m̢et̴h̛įng to҉ fi̶x ͢i̵ţ.̸
(I guess I'll stay out of politics for a while.)
The goal of this proposal was not to literally end the council. I would be quite surprised if it were to happen. What I wished was to force everyone into action, and end this pathetic waste of time you call "conflict" (petty fight would be a more appropriate name) once for all so that we may concentrate on more important matters. I do believe that my action was justified.
Consider this proposition as a wake-up call for everybody, as our situation has become unacceptable. How can we hope to face bigger threats if we cannot even have a mature discussion?
Azem stares off into the lower-case v void.
Azem stares off into the lower-case v void.
(5 bullets says the void stares back)
Ever since I've been manifest, the Council hasn't really done anything. I believe I first came to being during a time in which the Void was taking hold, and nothing was really done."Void worshippers were prevented from using magic and everyone else was given free access to it. It wasn't much when it came to fighting the Void but we don't know of any effective ways to do so anyway."
Then the Merman crisis. It seems we let him take a grand chunk of land, argued over what to do and eventually did nothing. Things calmed down for a while, and then he conquered more land, though not through martial means. We argued further, and settled on doing... nothing!"There were several proposals made to stop the Merman Emperor and there are still two more which should help in that respect. Don't talk about the Council doing nothing - ESPECIALLY concerning the Merman - when you yourself can't be bothered to act. This goes for you too, Azem. Stop talking about how pathetic and useless the Council is considering you never take part in Council proposals unless it's to punish Fusil. It's no better than a moody teenager moaning about how "life is pain" when all he does is sit in his dark room cutting himself."
Again.
I didn't act because I had no need to act."If we had no need to act then why are you complaining that we didn't?"
I proposed a few things to the Council that nobody was interested in, namely imprisoning the Merman Emperor and interrogating him. You wanted to kill him outright, and not find a damn thing out about his motivations, without considering the implications of what taking the head off the beast could do."I supported you in the proposal to imprison him as well as the one that would just kill him. I don't care about the potential, possible, imaginable implications that killing him might have, I'm only interested in giving him the punishment he deserves. THAT is definitive, unlike the maybes of what would happen after his dead. But considering that you're all so ok with his conquering and his slaughtering of civilians, perhaps I should do a little conquering myself? I'll build pantheons to appease you and rebuild the lands I've conquered if you want me to. I'll even throw in a little bonus by NOT killing civilians. Does that sound reasonable to everyone? Or perhaps I should do that last bit since you are all so ok with it that you might actually WANT me to do that!"
I didn't act because I had no need to act."If we had no need to act then why are you complaining that we didn't?"
I proposed a few things to the Council that nobody was interested in, namely imprisoning the Merman Emperor and interrogating him. You wanted to kill him outright, and not find a damn thing out about his motivations, without considering the implications of what taking the head off the beast could do.
"I supported you in the proposal to imprison him as well as the one that would just kill him. I don't care about the potential, possible, imaginable implications that killing him might have, I'm only interested in giving him the punishment he deserves. THAT is definitive, unlike the maybes of what would happen after his dead...
...But considering that you're all so ok with his conquering and his slaughtering of civilians, perhaps I should do a little conquering myself? I'll build pantheons to appease you and rebuild the lands I've conquered if you want me to. I'll even throw in a little bonus by NOT killing civilians. Does that sound reasonable to everyone? Or perhaps I should do that last bit since you are all so ok with it that you might actually WANT me to do that!"
The mortals have probably all forgotten by now of the actions of the merman people, and so I believe taking action now would only serve to emphasize our Inefficiency and complete disconnection to their reality, which might impact negatively on the quality of our worship.The Merman emperor conquered within this generation of mortals, and he is immortal. I doubt the mortals have forgotten him at all.
Also, Malakath, consider us even. ;D"Weren't we already even? What made you think we weren't? What made you think we are now?"
QuoteThe mortals have probably all forgotten by now of the actions of the merman people, and so I believe taking action now would only serve to emphasize our Inefficiency and complete disconnection to their reality, which might impact negatively on the quality of our worship.The Merman emperor conquered within this generation of mortals, and he is immortal. I doubt the mortals have forgotten him at all.
((Time slows down when the gods focus on events like a war, so that each tick could be a few days mortal time...))
"Find out why he did what he did, who sponsored him, and what powers he has."
"Find out why he did what he did, who sponsored him, and what powers he has."
The Emperor has the following most visible powers:
Nullification
Lack of soul
Charisma
Strengths: Strength
Weaknesses: Pride
"But considering that you're all so ok with his conquering and his slaughtering of civilians, perhaps I should do a little conquering myself? I'll build pantheons to appease you and rebuild the lands I've conquered if you want me to. I'll even throw in a little bonus by NOT killing civilians. Does that sound reasonable to everyone? Or perhaps I should do that last bit since you are all so ok with it that you might actually WANT me to do that!"
(You ever create those demons you were talking about OOC? Would be fun to see how good they are. I'm planning on publicly making something myself soon which is a rare occurrence.)(Nah, I've been having to spend a ton of Essence doing pretty minor stuff and I can't afford them without a business partner. Maybe we can build your public thing together so we can both save on Essence?)
I, Malakath, I didn't have to act, because the Turonni were not affected. I'm complaining the Council didn't do anything because the next time the Turonni are affected, I'll be the only one dealing with it."You saw a flaw, yet you did nothing to fix it before now? For example, you could have helped others with their work, without the Council, and asked for their help should it later happen to you. Still, do not think you'd be the only one dealing with something; there is never only one God involved in anything."
I, Malakath, I didn't have to act, because the Turonni were not affected. I'm complaining the Council didn't do anything because the next time the Turonni are affected, I'll be the only one dealing with it."You saw a flaw, yet you did nothing to fix it before now? For example, you could have helped others with their work, without the Council, and asked for their help should it later happen to you. Still, do not think you'd be the only one dealing with something; there is never only one God involved in anything."
Unless you perform the interrogation publicly and without torture, I refuse to believe a single word of what you say on the matter.
Unless you perform the interrogation publicly and without torture, I refuse to believe a single word of what you say on the matter.
"What do you have against Meylessa?"
Unless you perform the interrogation publicly and without torture, I refuse to believe a single word of what you say on the matter.
"What do you have against Meylessa?"
Unless you perform the interrogation publicly and without torture, I refuse to believe a single word of what you say on the matter.
"What do you have against Meylessa?"((He's talking to me, but I already sealed myself which means I didn't heard him.))
Edit: apparently not. But I'm still sealed.
Odolhirum has been razed by a mysterious invading force! Its centers of magical study have imploded and turned to ash, stone, and dust. None who enter its ruins return, and at night, terrifying sounds can be heard from inside."Before you ask, Khaziraad, I didn't glass my own city. Considering its terrifying nature which is also present in the Gruen city the Stone Men burned down I suspect that Fusil is responsible for this."
"You, too, have hidden your followers, Cim, Esteemed Lawgiver. Your worshippers vastly surpass Joha's in number, yet we see not a single trace of them. Quéßäre Smoldertongue has done so as well. Have any of you gods knowledge of where Àrenne is? Do none of you find it puzzling how the wolf people survived the merfolk campaign despite the recent formation of their civilization? The Armu-Seppo-Hovori cities can at least know of other gods, a step above the high elves, to be sure. Surely the fact that these other gods spite Fusil so is little encouragement? The sword of justice cuts both ways.""Àrenne is likely hidden to prevent certain incidents involving weapons of nuclear nature or mysterious plagues brought about by unknown causes. Quéßäre has shown that he allows his people to worship other gods so his hidden city is not an issue. The issue isn't that A-S-H cities are hidden - they're not - only that they are forced into worshipping one god. The Wolf People were created in Tick 57 and to call their civilisation "recently formed" is inaccurate. We've had no reports of the Merfolk conquering Hummingbirds either, do you think we should charge Kli with breaking Part IV as well? The one good point you have is regarding Cim. I will let other gods speak their points now."
Ghizher has begun attempting to convert followers of the Void for eldritch knowledge. Many welcome Ghizher variously as the "Bridge-builder," "The Speaker of the Void," or "Medium among the Shadows" and persist in their beliefs. Ghizher has taught the more land-anchored followers the methods of successful blackmail and uses of night eye truth serum and thorns. The Void followers have been given 100 new holy books. There is some complaint about them not being eldritch enough."Let me give you some advice from someone a bit older and more experienced than you, Ghizher. Instead of claiming about how you are so much more eldritch than the Void or how you're not a mere pathway to it instead just let them believe that. It will help. Your books are not eldritch enough and that will also help. Delve deeper into your own nature and leave a path for others to follow. Soon enough, they'll know that the "not eldritch enough" books are the barest taste of true eldritch, that the Void is nothing compared to you and what you are. If anything, the Void is a bridge to you. It will take a long time to travel this path but the rewards are there if you stick to it. This is my advice, take it as you will."
Azem has stared into the void. It blinks first."It's merely a Space Spirit, nothing to worry about."
Fusil has been struck down!"This is very odd. Fusil was at 8 Essence last Tick and the sun merely took 3E from him. He couldn't have died that quickly in one Tick. Perhaps the sun's damage increases after spending more time in it? In the first Tick it removes a god's "protective shell" and in the subsequent Ticks it attacks them more directly. Of course, this is entirely speculative and I find my idea of a god having a "protective shell" to be quite dubious."
HERETIC?(Yaos: "Heretic.")
Tykki counters:"I object; what I or other Gods have done has nothing to do with the defendant's case. Still, let me respond to your points. I have not hidden my worshipers, but they themselves, with no divine aid. I am surprised you don't see a single trace of my worshipers, as you say. I do in fact know where Kaybar's worshipers and Àrenne is, and the arrangement does not break the Code of Conduct. The wolf people either were never assaulted by the Emperor, or had one or more Gods on their side. It is not puzzling. I can confirm the High Elves know of other Gods, but not do so for A-S-H. Do not rely on evidence that cannot be verified. I can see why Fusil did what he did, but that does not make it any less unlawful."
"You, too, have hidden your followers, Cim, Esteemed Lawgiver. Your worshippers vastly surpass Joha's in number, yet we see not a single trace of them. Quéßäre Smoldertongue has done so as well. Have any of you gods knowledge of where Àrenne is? Do none of you find it puzzling how the wolf people survived the merfolk campaign despite the recent formation of their civilization? The Armu-Seppo-Hovori cities can at least know of other gods, a step above the high elves, to be sure. Surely the fact that these other gods spite Fusil so is little encouragement? The sword of justice cuts both ways."
Fusil has been struck down!"In all honesty, unsurprising."
"Fusil's tyranny has finally been stopped! I Propose, that from now on every turn that ends with "10" we shall celebrate the DoFD, or the Death of Fusil Day."
My orb appears to the council"Not sure about the shadowy ones, might be void beings, but the Yaosian inquisition was founded by Yaos, late God/Goddess of Humans and Ambition, to stop hostile void cults in the old Human Empire. They were disliked by most Gods for their harsh crackdowns on anyone with even a trace of void influence. They were shut down by the Gods after Yaos died."
Could someone please inform me on the "Yaosian inquisition" and "the shadowy ones"? I will not be able to properly conduct this interrogation if I do not know more about the merman's history. Any significant details on the life of the emperor is welcome.
"Seeal the Monoliths on Nikjol until further notice"
"I wonder is there a deal we can make so i can keep those monoliths there?"
My orb appears to the council"Not sure about the shadowy ones, might be void beings, but the Yaosian inquisition was founded by Yaos, late God/Goddess of Humans and Ambition, to stop hostile void cults in the old Human Empire. They were disliked by most Gods for their harsh crackdowns on anyone with even a trace of void influence. They were shut down by the Gods after Yaos died."
Could someone please inform me on the "Yaosian inquisition" and "the shadowy ones"? I will not be able to properly conduct this interrogation if I do not know more about the merman's history. Any significant details on the life of the emperor is welcome.
My orb appears to the council"Not sure about the shadowy ones, might be void beings, but the Yaosian inquisition was founded by Yaos, late God/Goddess of Humans and Ambition, to stop hostile void cults in the old Human Empire. They were disliked by most Gods for their harsh crackdowns on anyone with even a trace of void influence. They were shut down by the Gods after Yaos died."
Could someone please inform me on the "Yaosian inquisition" and "the shadowy ones"? I will not be able to properly conduct this interrogation if I do not know more about the merman's history. Any significant details on the life of the emperor is welcome.
Did this inquisition harm the emperor or his people in any way? Also, the wording of the emperor seems to indicate that the threat the "shadowy ones" represent is over.
On a side note, the emperor have been surprisingly cooperative so far. I did not even have to use some of the... less desirable means of obtaining information.
"The Light stands next to an array of fruitful gods who all fulfill a purpose. I allow anyone to preach their beliefs to my followers as long as they don't exclude me or any other god. So you could for instance install similar monoliths in my settlements, or we could accept each other in our pantheon and we shall change all monoliths at once to suit this purpose."
My orb appears to the council"Not sure about the shadowy ones, might be void beings, but the Yaosian inquisition was founded by Yaos, late God/Goddess of Humans and Ambition, to stop hostile void cults in the old Human Empire. They were disliked by most Gods for their harsh crackdowns on anyone with even a trace of void influence. They were shut down by the Gods after Yaos died."
Could someone please inform me on the "Yaosian inquisition" and "the shadowy ones"? I will not be able to properly conduct this interrogation if I do not know more about the merman's history. Any significant details on the life of the emperor is welcome.
Did this inquisition harm the emperor or his people in any way? Also, the wording of the emperor seems to indicate that the threat the "shadowy ones" represent is over.
On a side note, the emperor have been surprisingly cooperative so far. I did not even have to use some of the... less desirable means of obtaining information.
You won't mind if I don't believe you on that one, I'm sure.
"Do we have the Merman Emperor's Permission to interrogate him?"
"Do we have the Merman Emperor's Permission to interrogate him?"
He did not seem to oppose to the idea. I do not see why we would need his permission. He is, after all accused of several war crimes.
I also need to know if the yaosian inquisition harmed the emperor or his people in any way. I won't be able to continue the interrogation until I have an answer.
"Do we have the Merman Emperor's Permission to interrogate him?"
He did not seem to oppose to the idea. I do not see why we would need his permission. He is, after all accused of several war crimes.
I also need to know if the yaosian inquisition harmed the emperor or his people in any way. I won't be able to continue the interrogation until I have an answer.
It's not a crime to wage war. He also rebuilt the conquered territories, so he's nothing if not a benevolent tyrant. It's more why he started fighting that I'm interested in, it was quite out of the deep blue...
Yaosian inquisition was disbanded quite some time ago. I objected, but it doesn't matter anymore. Fusil should come around after a while, it is not the first time he dissapears wihile sealed.
"The Yaosian inquisition was disbanded long before the Merman emperor began his warmongering."Do we have the Merman Emperor's Permission to interrogate him?"
He did not seem to oppose to the idea. I do not see why we would need his permission. He is, after all accused of several war crimes.
I also need to know if the yaosian inquisition harmed the emperor or his people in any way. I won't be able to continue the interrogation until I have an answer.
"You, too, have hidden your followers, Cim, Esteemed Lawgiver. Your worshippers vastly surpass Joha's in number, yet we see not a single trace of them. Quéßäre Smoldertongue has done so as well. Have any of you gods knowledge of where Àrenne is? Do none of you find it puzzling how the wolf people survived the merfolk campaign despite the recent formation of their civilization? The Armu-Seppo-Hovori cities can at least know of other gods, a step above the high elves, to be sure. Surely the fact that these other gods spite Fusil so is little encouragement? The sword of justice cuts both ways.""Despite your beliefs, I actually do not stop my followers in Àrenne from worshiping other Gods. There is, however much it may disgust me, a sizable Fusil following there. I have not stopped them from worshiping you, nor do I encourage it. In fact, just a little while ago I made a church to Raptil there. It is hidden because we know how much a certain God (FUSIL) likes to slaughter those they he oppose them, which is everyone.
Send a message to the Sewa that are not on the farm planet, name pending"You do know that Grauel has sent Gruen spores to populate your planet, right? Be sure to keep an eye on the Gruen in case they develop sapient creature-eating tendencies."
"Rejoice! For you now have a heaven after death. Rejoice! For every other life will be lived in a peaceful planet made entirly for you! My creation, you have broken the chains of what these others live through and are enclosed in my sphere of protection! Rejoice!"
"Fusil's tyranny has finally been stopped! I Propose, that from now on every turn that ends with "10" we shall celebrate the DoFD, or the Death of Fusil Day."Oppose
Could someone please inform me on the "Yaosian inquisition" and "the shadowy ones"? I will not be able to properly conduct this interrogation if I do not know more about the merman's history. Any significant details on the life of the emperor is welcome."The Yaosian Inquisition was an institution founded by Yaos to hunt down and eradicate dangerous Void cults within the Empire of Mankind, an empire comprising of all or most Humans on Keshan. Their early history was marked by harsh crackdowns on anything Void-related which prompted a reformation in which the Inquisition would use non-lethal weaponry as standard and would be more lenient in regards to Void-association, such as allowing the Void cult of Charity to exist.
"Neron, Perhaps you should create a Race of Followers for yourself.""What? I have made the Rani, Shadow Ravens, Snow Golems, and the Ice Golems. Besides, I was saving up because I thought we were making the CPBs soon."
"Oh Yeah, Forgot. Let's Celebrate!""That reminds me."
KI'Tork commands his Followers to get Stoned/Drunk and to Party for an entire Month. KI'Tork manifests as a Human-Sized Kobold and joins in himself.
"This sounds entirely reasonable to me, and I hope we can coexist and cocreate in the future again. ""The Light stands next to an array of fruitful gods who all fulfill a purpose. I allow anyone to preach their beliefs to my followers as long as they don't exclude me or any other god. So you could for instance install similar monoliths in my settlements, or we could accept each other in our pantheon and we shall change all monoliths at once to suit this purpose."
"Hmm, Alright, You can Put your Monoliths on Nikjol, In exchange,
You won't otherwise manipulate Frost Kobold Society,
You won't create anything else on Nikjol without Paying The Holy Meofisp Beforehand,
And Most Importantly, You won't use Divine Essence or Angels to Sway them to your Worship.They must do so of their own Choice, Without any outside factors, Apart from your Monoliths.
And should The Holy Meofisp attempt to Spread something of Similar Properties you will not object, And we shall abide by the Aforementioned Conditions.
Along with an Upfront 2 Essence Price, To Each Member of The Holy Meofisp.
I'm entirely open to Negotiations, Of course."
[/s]My orb appears to the council"Not sure about the shadowy ones, might be void beings, but the Yaosian inquisition was founded by Yaos, late God/Goddess of Humans and Ambition, to stop hostile void cults in the old Human Empire. They were disliked by most Gods for their harsh crackdowns on anyone with even a trace of void influence. They were shut down by the Gods after Yaos died."
Could someone please inform me on the "Yaosian inquisition" and "the shadowy ones"? I will not be able to properly conduct this interrogation if I do not know more about the merman's history. Any significant details on the life of the emperor is welcome.
Did this inquisition harm the emperor or his people in any way? Also, the wording of the emperor seems to indicate that the threat the "shadowy ones" represent is over.
On a side note, the emperor have been surprisingly cooperative so far. I did not even have to use some of the... less desirable means of obtaining information.
You won't mind if I don't believe you on that one, I'm sure.
Then why don't you interrogate him after me? Hell, why don't we all interrogate him one at a time? Undeserved distrust is not going to help any of us, how can we hope to achieve anything if we cannot trust each other on anything? Remember that I was not present when the emperor did his conquest, and so I have no bias in favor or against him as I was not affected by his actions.
I would also be grateful if you remembered that I am the god of eldritch secrets, not the god of lies and chronic backstabbing.
Then why don't you interrogate him after me? Hell, why don't we all interrogate him one at a time? Undeserved distrust is not going to help any of us, how can we hope to achieve anything if we cannot trust each other on anything? Remember that I was not present when the emperor did his conquest, and so I have no bias in favor or against him as I was not affected by his actions.
I would also be grateful if you remembered that I am the god of eldritch secrets, not the god of lies and chronic backstabbing.
"I shall interrogate him afterwards then, but I agree, we should not mistrust him more than any other god. Sadly he is enigmatic as he douses in secret, but I would like to see a report of his interrogation if he were to share it with the world. I support void research gravely. Be warned though God of Eldritch Knowledge, I think we can all agree here, that most of us would not like to see you making any deals with the void, without telling us beforehand. I hope I can get a verbal agreement on that from you."
I was not even aware of their existence when my book neutralized their rival's followers. Now that I think about it, I am not even sure on how that was possible.(When did this happen?)
I was not even aware of their existence when my book neutralized their rival's followers. Now that I think about it, I am not even sure on how that was possible.(When did this happen?)
I was not even aware of their existence when my book neutralized their rival's followers. Now that I think about it, I am not even sure on how that was possible.(When did this happen?)
((At tick 108, the Luminants offered their blessing for removing an Umbral cult. I haven't responded to it.))
(Exactly, and the deal was indeed to wipe out the cult, not neutralise it with your books.)I was not even aware of their existence when my book neutralized their rival's followers. Now that I think about it, I am not even sure on how that was possible.(When did this happen?)
((At tick 108, the Luminants offered their blessing for removing an Umbral cult. I haven't responded to it.))
(That was an offer, as in a deal. It could have been said "I will offer you five dollars for that gun". You didn't kill/wipe out a cult, and you didn't get the blessing. It was a deal, not something you have done already.)
(Exactly, and the deal was indeed to wipe out the cult, not neutralise it with your books.)I was not even aware of their existence when my book neutralized their rival's followers. Now that I think about it, I am not even sure on how that was possible.(When did this happen?)
((At tick 108, the Luminants offered their blessing for removing an Umbral cult. I haven't responded to it.))
(That was an offer, as in a deal. It could have been said "I will offer you five dollars for that gun". You didn't kill/wipe out a cult, and you didn't get the blessing. It was a deal, not something you have done already.)
"As Would I, People tend to talk more freely whenever they've consumed Donuts laced with Mystic Dust, After all.""What's Mystic Dust? Are you referring to Mystic Snow?"
"I propose we develop a protocol of guidelines on how to deal with the void."
"Well I wish to be present while you interrogate, and since I am actually financing the interrogation I think I have the right to it.
"As Would I, People tend to talk more freely whenever they've consumed Donuts laced with Mystic Dust, After all."
KI'Tork tries to see how many Tyrannis Addicts there are.
"I propose we develop a protocol of guidelines on how to deal with the void."
"If we were to create a protocol on how to deal with the void, I would propose to never let anyone interrogate alone."
I created 145 books in total, 100 of which are in the hands of null followers, 44 in unknown hands and one in the hands of unaligned humans. Is it really that munch?
And Ghizer is not simply the plant; that would be minor, since it's easy enough to deal with. It's also the fact that his books drive people insane. If he didn't seem to be focusing on the 'foul consequences for anyone nearby' part of Eldritch, I would be fine with him.
"I propose we develop a protocol of guidelines on how to deal with the void.""How about we quit talking about it and rout all Void presence from the Bubble? I think that would be best, don't you?"
$$$Response"There are two important things to note here. Firstly, the idea that Essence is somehow key to creating anti-Void energy. I think this more-or-less proves that, even going by the theory that Void Energy and Essence are almost the same thing, that they are most definitely NOT the same thing and are intrinsically different on a very base level and should they should thus be treated separately."
? ? ?, may require Void knowledge and experience on Essence
"I've looked into created anti-Void energy myself. These are the results:""Void Energy comes from the anomaly of stable Bubbles existing in the entropic Churn. I would advise against creating Anti-Void Energy in large amounts. I have the knowledge and experience required, but sadly that experience also tells me it is a Bad Idea."Quote from: Kilojoule Proton$$$Response"There are two important things to note here. Firstly, the idea that Essence is somehow key to creating anti-Void energy. I think this more-or-less proves that, even going by the theory that Void Energy and Essence are almost the same thing, that they are most definitely NOT the same thing and are intrinsically different on a very base level and should they should thus be treated separately."
? ? ?, may require Void knowledge and experience on Essence
"The second and possibly more important element is that it may require Void Knowledge and Essence experience. Remember that these are just the possible requirements for a god trying to create this energy on their own. The Council or perhaps even a mere collection of gods could forcibly create this energy."
"Void Energy comes from the anomaly of stable Bubbles existing in the entropic Churn. I would advise against creating Anti-Void Energy in large amounts. I have the knowledge and experience required, but sadly that experience also tells me it is a Bad Idea.""Please don't be like Fusil. If you're going to give us advice, please give us the reasoning for that advice as well. Why shouldn't we create anti-Void energy? If possible, can you share with us the source of your information or at least tell us what it is? We are dealing with the fate of all existence and it wouldn't do anyone good to be kept in the dark."
Well if we were in that state already, obviously we wouldn't waste time with talking. Clerly we have to find a common ground from where we work from, hence we need the Code of Conduct,""I propose we develop a protocol of guidelines on how to deal with the void.""How about we quit talking about it and rout all Void presence from the Bubble? I think that would be best, don't you?"
"In short, don't be hasty when trying to find a way to fight against the Void.""Of course, that's why I didn't make it a proposal. There's much we don't know and talk on the subject was needed."
"Creating this Anti-Void Energy might burst our bubble, both figuratively and literally."We've already created anti-Void energy so it's probably not dangerous in small amounts. Perhaps we can create an artifact that is strongly anti-Void when it's turned on and Void-neutral when it's off? Perhaps we can make a barrier which reflects anti-Void energy so that any attempting to escape the Bubble will be returned to whence it came?"
I therefore Propose that we make research on essence and void a priority. I will do research on my own if the council refuse to do so."I oppose this proposal on the grounds that it's entirely unenforceable and useless, just like Yaos' Void study committee. If you want to study it on your own then do so, there's no law against it. It would be appreciated if you informed us of whatever you find."
For now, I will send my orb to the limit of our bubble to try to learn more on how does it stops the void from entering and find more about how essence and void interacts.
"If we can change the laws of reality it's possible that we can guide our will and make it reality through a Council proposal."I don't think we can, though. If nothing else, the Council, as we've seen in the past, is not all-seeing, and I don't think anyone wants it to be. It is, by nature, a reactive force to the Gods, while we are the active force behind it.
"I would like to Propose that we give all of Fusil`s angels to newer Gods like our new God of Void."Oppose
"I would like to Propose that we give all of Fusil`s angels to newer Gods like our new God of Void."
"I oppose this proposal on the grounds that it's entirely unenforceable and useless, just like Yaos' Void study committee. If you want to study it on your own then do so, there's no law against it. It would be appreciated if you informed us of whatever you find."
"I have no objections to the actual idea of making Void-research a priority and sharing it with each-other, what I have an objection to is in making the idea into a proposal which would - by its very nature - be entirely unenforcable and wouldn't be any better than simply saying we're going to make it a priority. Unless you include actual rules and responsibilities with your proposal, it is utterly meaningless. (Again, the problem isn't with the idea itself, just in making it a proposal which will do nothing if it passes.)""I oppose this proposal on the grounds that it's entirely unenforceable and useless, just like Yaos' Void study committee. If you want to study it on your own then do so, there's no law against it. It would be appreciated if you informed us of whatever you find."
We already know that one of the null faction would like to see us gone, we will be forced to do something about it eventually. If we are to interact, we should know as much as possible about them to avoid putting ourselves in a dangerous situation. If you don't want to help researching, then you can abstain. I do not see any reason to inform those of us who refuse to contribute for obvious reasons.
"I have no objections to the actual idea of making Void-research a priority and sharing it with each-other, what I have an objection to is in making the idea into a proposal which would - by its very nature - be entirely unenforcable and wouldn't be any better than simply saying we're going to make it a priority. Unless you include actual rules and responsibilities with your proposal, it is utterly meaningless. (Again, the problem isn't with the idea itself, just in making it a proposal which will do nothing if it passes.)""I oppose this proposal on the grounds that it's entirely unenforceable and useless, just like Yaos' Void study committee. If you want to study it on your own then do so, there's no law against it. It would be appreciated if you informed us of whatever you find."
We already know that one of the null faction would like to see us gone, we will be forced to do something about it eventually. If we are to interact, we should know as much as possible about them to avoid putting ourselves in a dangerous situation. If you don't want to help researching, then you can abstain. I do not see any reason to inform those of us who refuse to contribute for obvious reasons.
"I will now swim in a pool of acid, punch these toothy, spiny fishes and eat them, and dance around on broken glass!""How wonderful. You are a worthy servant. I shall reward you greatly."
"We have created a great wheel that harvests the torture of many to power the torture of others!""Wonderful! Does it use magic or have you constructed it by hand?"
"Could you test out this chair?""That would be my pleasure. Surprise can be an important element of torture," Melyssa tests the chair
"I have to agree with Ghizher. The amount of proposals that were meant to change a god's spheres or names and such is just abominable. The most extreme example is the "toss X into the sun" proposals which were tantamount to assault/murder. To this end, I propose that proposals concerning gods are invalidated unless they're part of Lawmode. This isn't enough to fix every problem the Council has but it should at least fix one of them."Oppose. "The council can be used as a preventive measure. Fusil might have actually killed or tried to kill someone (else) if the council hadn't been there to stop him, for example. I do agree that most of the god related things should not be proposed to the council."
"The usage of the Council for petty things such as - I'll admit - my using the Council to do some experiments is too high. I don't know of any solutions that would fix this problem but I have come up with an idea that the other might find interesting. I propose that any experiments done by the Void Study Committee will have the full power of the Council behind it. To balance it out, all experiments must wait a Tick before being allowed to be done and any god - even those outside the Committee - has the power of veto over any experiments done. 2 other gods besides the experiment-proposer will be required to remove this veto."Support
"Lawmode will still be there and proposals meant to punish a god for breaking the law count as lawmode. Normal proposals like the ones I mentioned take too long to pass to act as a deterrent anyway.""I have to agree with Ghizher. The amount of proposals that were meant to change a god's spheres or names and such is just abominable. The most extreme example is the "toss X into the sun" proposals which were tantamount to assault/murder. To this end, I propose that proposals concerning gods are invalidated unless they're part of Lawmode. This isn't enough to fix every problem the Council has but it should at least fix one of them."Oppose. "The council can be used as a preventive measure. Fusil might have actually killed or tried to kill someone (else) if the council hadn't been there to stop him, for example. I do agree that most of the god related things should not be proposed to the council."